Your Daily Dose Of, "John Boehner Is Useless": "The Violence Against Women Act" Edition

The Senate passed a version of the Violence Against Women Act that House Republicans don't like. Clearly that means it's dead, right? I mean the whole argument is, sure you can't force things like entitlement reform with just the House but you can stop bad things from passing.

No, Boehner brought it up and it passed.


The process took some Republicans by surprise.

When the House votes Thursday to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act, ending a drawn-out fight over whether some groups should be afforded protections under the bill, the measure will likely pass with a minority of Republicans supporting it.

...

House leaders reached the decision to pitch the Senate bill late Tuesday, only once it became clear a House version of the measure could not pass. At a meeting earlier in the evening among members of the Whip team, which counts votes, the contingency of the Senate bill coming to the floor was not even raised.

"You would have never thought that had the slightest possibility of happening based on the discussions," one House Republican aide familiar with the meeting said. The member of Congress for whom the aide works only learned that the House would vote on the Senate version of VAWA later — from Politico.

Does Beohner know that he doesn't have to bring up every bill the Senate sends over? Because if he's unclear on how this works, he could just look at how Harry Reid sits on Republican bills all the time.

What happened to the promises of regular order (each house passes a bill and then conference) and no more violating the Hasteret rule (you need a majority of the majority to pass a bill) after he did this with the fiscal cliff and Sandy relief bills? Yeah, about that taste in your mouth.

But hey, don't worry, there's no chance of the House caving on sequestration, guns or immigration once the Senate passes a bill.

I get the bill has a scary title, "The Violence Against Women Act" but it's not like the GOP is suddenly going to stop getting called anti-women because of this. It's not like Harry Reid is suddenly going to let the GOP pass a bill in the Senate just to show some good faith.

No, the Democrats will laugh all the way to the bank knowing that they don't have to give Boehner anything. Just apply enough pressure and he'll give it all to them with the help of House Democrats.

Why are you still a Republican?

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:40 PM



Comments

1 powder dry, hill to die on. please, media, like me.

Posted by: ejo at February 28, 2013 12:42 PM (GXvSO)

2 The thing about John Boehner is he's a sopping wet pussy.

Posted by: garrett at February 28, 2013 12:42 PM (cOMWH)

3 frist?

Posted by: bosk at February 28, 2013 12:42 PM (n2K+4)

4 Why are you still a Republican?


I got nowhere else to go.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 28, 2013 12:42 PM (t06LC)

5 Doh

Posted by: bosk at February 28, 2013 12:42 PM (n2K+4)

6 Why are you still a Republican?


I got nowhere else to go.
Posted by: Jollyroger at February 28, 2013 12:42 PM (t06LC)


unaffiliated

Posted by: beach charade at February 28, 2013 12:43 PM (XYSwB)

7 Papa Boehner is hard up for Harry Reid.

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 28, 2013 12:43 PM (nTgAI)

8 I thought violence against wimminz and everybody else was already illegal? Why the special catagory for those with teh vag?

Posted by: bosk at February 28, 2013 12:43 PM (n2K+4)

9 Why are you still a republican?
No more, no more. Tea Party.

Posted by: The Mayor of Candor at February 28, 2013 12:43 PM (c4IBC)

10 Tears on my Boehner

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 28, 2013 12:44 PM (nTgAI)

11 Women in combat = violence against women, right?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 28, 2013 12:44 PM (UOM48)

12 Boehner has no cajones. Fire him.

Posted by: Waingro at February 28, 2013 12:44 PM (mhe9d)

13 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 12:44 PM (xN73L)

14 I'm not a Republican. I'm a registered Democrat. I just stay a registered Democrat so I can tell off the people who call me from the DNC for money how much I loathe the Democrat Party and Obama's policies and how I will never vote for any of them again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 28, 2013 12:44 PM (MuHYc)

15 A Boehner with no nuts is innefective

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 28, 2013 12:45 PM (nTgAI)

16 Why are you still a Republican?

Because NY is a closed primary state.

Posted by: mugiwara at February 28, 2013 12:45 PM (W7ffl)

17 This is why I worry about gun control. I have no faith in our side doing the right thing.

We'll be cavung on sequestration as well, guaranteed.

Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 28, 2013 12:45 PM (jNNPU)

18
Why are you still a Republican?

Not I.

Gun control and amnesty will likely go this way too.

Non-establishment republicans are sold out like so many slaves.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 12:47 PM (p/cQy)

19 I am no longer a Republican. Haven't been since, oh, the days when Bitch McConnell gobbled Hairy Reid's knob on Osama-Obama-scare so he could get home for Christmas.

I still do my best to vote "conservative" (which is next to impossible in the land of Lieawatha Warren, Scott Brown and any number of Kennedys), but what the hell. When it comes to party, the Repubs are offering no Compelling Sales Proposition, so fuck 'em. It's going to take something other than the clowns in Congress and the so-called right-leaning media who oppose Choom Boy by sucking up to him to save the country.

If I want to see fat, self-satisfied eunuchs in action, I can watch any number of teevee sitcoms.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 28, 2013 12:48 PM (cFhY4)

20
They next bill will simply enable the state to round up all straight white adult males to preempt any violence against the vaginally-equipped, discrimination against those of preferred melanin content, and disdain for dudes who chug cock. I mean, why not?

Posted by: Jaws at February 28, 2013 12:48 PM (4I3Uo)

21 Why are you not getting to the ArkLaTex Drew?


Which is to say, "it is a time for choosing" as Reagan once said....

and I am not so sure I can convince Donkey so do i choose to aid him anymore?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 12:48 PM (LRFds)

22 When they cut new Eunichs they ask them if they want the 'Traditional' or the 'Boehner'.

Posted by: garrett at February 28, 2013 12:49 PM (cOMWH)

23 That is RACIST and SEXIST!!!!! White Males revolt...
These Mothers serve up this slop like a Cleveland hash slinger..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 28, 2013 12:49 PM (Snhap)

24 Bravo!

Posted by: OskarPistorius at February 28, 2013 12:49 PM (uEm7J)

25 Since this is yet another "Make rich lawyers richer" act, I'd love to know how many of the GOP voting for it were lawyers.

When in doubt, follow the lawyers.

But, yeah, I don't see the problem with a House version that has good stuff. I get it, we can't not pass something called the Violence Against Women with Lawyers Who Want to Get Rich Off the Backs of Abused Women Act but hollow it out and pass your own version.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 28, 2013 12:49 PM (T0NGe)

26 A Boehner with no nuts is innefective


A Boehner with no nuts is a eunich.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2013 12:49 PM (GFM2b)

27 I'm not even sure I can work up an outrage over this. I don't know how those liberals do it Sometimes you just shrug your shoulders and say "typical."

Posted by: SH at February 28, 2013 12:49 PM (gmeXX)

28 my voter registration says republican but i've never been one...i'm a conservative....

Posted by: phoenixgirl spring training is here!!!!! at February 28, 2013 12:50 PM (GVxQo)

29 Yay. What would we do without..


STOP Grants (State Formula Grants)
Transitional Housing Grants
Grants to Encourage Arrest and Enforce Protection Orders
Court Training and Improvement Grants
Research on Violence Against Indian Women
National Tribal Sex Offender Registry
Stalker Reduction Database
Federal Victim Assistants
Sexual Assault Services Program
Services for Rural Victims
Civil Legal Assistance for Victims
Elder Abuse Grant Program
Protections and Services for Disabled Victims
Combating Abuse in Public Housing
National Resource Center on Workplace Responses
Violence on College Campuses Grants
Safe Havens Project
Engaging Men and Youth in Prevention


Cuts? We can't make no stinking cuts!

And no, we can't consolidate these programs.

Posted by: RWC at February 28, 2013 12:50 PM (fWAjv)

30 >>> I got nowhere else to go.

Gimme 25 push ups, May-O-naaaaise!


Posted by: soothsayer at February 28, 2013 12:50 PM (FC8Yl)

31 @18

I don't think so. Stuff like the Violence against women act or whatever Boehner knew wasn't really a big deal. I didn't know it was coming up for reinstatement. It went under the radar.
Guns, anything on guns will get close scruitny. Allowing movement there would be tantamount to suicide.
I trust Boehner on that front because standing firm on guns is the cowardly thing to do.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 28, 2013 12:50 PM (t06LC)

32 Hopefully, Ace will post something to save us from the "Don't blame me, I voted for Frank Zappa" comment-trolling.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 28, 2013 12:50 PM (T0NGe)

33 Consider me a member of Women Against the Violence Against Women Act (WAVAWA).

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 28, 2013 12:50 PM (4df7R)

34 Why am I still a republican?
I ask myself that question at least once a week if not more.

Why do I care about the future of the country? That question also gets attention at least once a week. The answer is always Duty, Honor, Country, to little effect.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2013 12:51 PM (4ILQs)

35 Club more seals is next.......

Posted by: Clemenza at February 28, 2013 12:51 PM (Snhap)

36 @30
Sweet someone recognized where I lifted that from. I was gonna change my name for that, but I was too lazy. Extra points for you.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 28, 2013 12:51 PM (t06LC)

37 Violence against women means not paying for birth control and letting us have AR-15s, right?

Posted by: no good deed at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (mjR67)

38 <insert more rage here>
Rinse
Repeat

/Definition of insanity

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (X/+QT)

39 Why did they vote for violence against women? Are they not against violence against women?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (AWmfW)

40 "If I want to see fat, self-satisfied eunuchs in action, I can watch any number of teevee sitcoms."

I see you've been watching my show, Girls....

Posted by: Lena Dunham (Stanley Ann Dunham reincarnated, only uglier and stupider) at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (ts0yx)

41 OT

Emergency meeting of the Morons Who Are Outwardly Lewd But Cherish Their Marriage Vows.


Today at work, I have a very comely co-ed from the local college with me. She's here to use my equipment (hehehehehe) because another vendor quoted her lab highway rape prices for the same work she can do in my lab for next to nothing. Well...almost nothing. hehehehehehe...


The jokes write themselves: she's an "oral biology" major, working on a lab rotation for dental school.


Posted by: EC at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (GQ8sn)

42 mwr

love that....stealing that

Posted by: phoenixgirl member of WAVAWA at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (GVxQo)

43

What's your favorite scene from An Officer And A Gentlemen?

(I refuse to get sucked into this crap again)

Posted by: soothsayer at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (Fely/)

44 What about that woman who stabbed that guy in the shower 25 times, shot him 3 and who speaks for the violence against White Men?

Posted by: Clemenza at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (Snhap)

45 I'm sure Boehner will be stalwart when a Dem bill entitled the Gun Violence Against Schoolchildren Prevention Act comes down the pike.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (teQqO)

46 So with this reauthorization of VAWA, there won't be any more rapes, right? Because it's illegal or something?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 28, 2013 12:53 PM (4df7R)

47 To boot, parts of it are unconstitutional and probably will not withstand a SCOTUS challenge.

Oh and public opinion polls, including with the Republican electorate, turned against them stalling. So instead of leading and explaining Boehner and Cantor folder.

Welcome to the Republican Party 2.0.

Posted by: Marcus at February 28, 2013 12:53 PM (GGCsk)

48 Why are you still a Republican?

I'm not. The party has shown that it neither stands for, nor believes in, the Constitution. I'm looking for one that will. Mitt Romney was my last bite of the shit sandwich.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 28, 2013 12:53 PM (zF6Iw)

49 Why am I still a Republican?

Because I'm waiting for the next major election before deciding what party to switch my registration to.

Posted by: Andrew at February 28, 2013 12:53 PM (HS3dy)

50 No fan of theBoehner, but it must suck knowing that your political adversary can demand anything and get away with it, because the media will cover it up. Why every Republican who goes on the media for an interview does not start by saying "Fuck You..." I can't imagine.

Posted by: sherlock at February 28, 2013 12:53 PM (Bn9/M)

51 We'd like to welcome our most accomplished eunuchs, the leaders of the Republican party...and they castrated themselves!

Posted by: Heaven's Gate Cult... at February 28, 2013 12:54 PM (ts0yx)

52 Well, my rep. (Garrett, 5th Dist. NJ) voted against it, but Ryan voted for it.

He has become exactly what I had hoped he wouldn't....a company man.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2013 12:54 PM (GsoHv)

53 Pink ties and $400 haircuts. Boehner is a useless, chain-smoking drunk.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 28, 2013 12:54 PM (wbmaj)

54
And as for this travesty of a bill, it is much farther reaching than most people realize. People will be prosecuted for "hurtful" speech or minor fracases against gays, Indians, etc under this law. Gays, Indians will not be prosecuted for the same against others. Prosecution under this law means loss of gun rights for that person forever.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 12:54 PM (p/cQy)

55 Democrats are so deep inside Boehner's OODE loop he doesn't even know which ideas are theirs and which are the ones he read on a Cap'n Crunch cereal box. The man has no sense for what the right wants or the country needs. He's floundered, and gaffed, and will soon be cooked.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 28, 2013 12:54 PM (Gt5Sg)

56 Is VAWA some kind of code for VJAYJAY?

Posted by: Marcus at February 28, 2013 12:55 PM (GGCsk)

57 This isn't the bill to die on.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at February 28, 2013 12:55 PM (uvaJ1)

58 @43

The part where Mayo is asked where he's headed next and he says Chase Field. Why? Hometown shoutout. Too bad Chase got sold out during the first BRAC.
Damn you Meridian.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 28, 2013 12:55 PM (t06LC)

59


I have no idea what the bill entails, but I guarantee you, there will be more "transgenders" popping up to take advantage of the protection.

Posted by: beach prayer at February 28, 2013 12:55 PM (XYSwB)

60 Powell at Stormin Normins Service at West Point? To bad in my opinion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2013 12:55 PM (9Bj8R)

61 My kingdom for someone in Washington to stop shitty, unecessary legislation such as this from being considered, especially when we have real problems that aren't being addressed, like the budget we haven't had in four years.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 28, 2013 12:55 PM (+z4pE)

62 NUTS

Posted by: General McCauliff at February 28, 2013 12:56 PM (gmeXX)

63
My favorite scene was when Ice was in the locker room with Maverick and Ice pretended like he was biting Mav's face.

And then Louis Gossett Jr came in and yelled at them, "Just what do you two nancy boys think you're doing?!? Put your skivvies on and gimme 25 push ups in the dirt!!"

Posted by: soothsayer at February 28, 2013 12:56 PM (FC8Yl)

64 Open enrollment in my Jack Daniels Party closes tomorrow at 11 p.m. Our motto? "When all there's left to do is drink."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 28, 2013 12:56 PM (wbmaj)

65
So violence against women is now illegal (I thought it always was, silly me), but violence against men is A-OK?

Is violence against anybody else illegal? I've been out of touch for a while.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 28, 2013 12:56 PM (IDSI7)

66 Gays, Indians will not be prosecuted for the same against others. Prosecution under this law means loss of gun rights for that person forever.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 12:54 PM (p/cQy)

Seems like an equal protection and 1st amendment case in the making.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 28, 2013 12:56 PM (t06LC)

67 You know, I hate Boehner far more than I hate Obama. Who do you hate more Pontius Pilate or Judas? Definitely Judas!

Posted by: Andrew at February 28, 2013 12:56 PM (HS3dy)

68 Posted by: soothsayer at February 28, 2013 12:52 PM (Fely/)

Seeing Lynette's boobs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2013 12:56 PM (GsoHv)

69 How many times do we have to pass laws that are already on the books, kind of like the gun grab. How is everyone, sort of chilly down here on the Texas/La. border today still might fire up the old grill later for some ribeyes.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 28, 2013 12:57 PM (8Hnjw)

70 Don't know if this has been brought up yet but it wasn't Boner this time. It was Cantor cracking the whip telling the conservatives to shut up or face "Civil War".


Hey all you conservatives, we don't like your kind here. Pass this POS bill.

Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2013 12:57 PM (53z96)

71 Prosecution under this law means loss of gun rights for that person forever.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 12:54 PM (p/cQy)


all of these are back door laws to build upon the final hammer of totalitarianism.

Posted by: beach at February 28, 2013 12:57 PM (XYSwB)

72 #61 My kingdom for a horse's ass---oh, I already have one--he is called John Boehner

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 28, 2013 12:57 PM (wbmaj)

73 Sven, you around? Do I have your email address?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 12:57 PM (xN73L)

74 54

And as for this travesty of a bill, it is much farther reaching than most people realize. People will
be prosecuted for "hurtful" speech or minor fracases against gays,
Indians, etc under this law. Gays, Indians will not be prosecuted for
the same against others. Prosecution under this law means loss of gun
rights for that person forever.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 12:54 PM (p/cQy)

Tyranny by thousand cuts.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at February 28, 2013 12:57 PM (AWmfW)

75 The Pope steps down, because firmer hands are needed.

Boehner stays on, useless as he is.

Contrast.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, the future Pope Ampersand I at February 28, 2013 12:57 PM (GBXon)

76 Broken record! Why exactly should I vote GOP again?

Posted by: Mekan at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (hm8tW)

77 Violence Against Women?

I vote YEA

Posted by: Chris Brown at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (mCvL4)

78 I once again would like to make a submission to the Style Book...

That the New Name for the GOP, shall be VOP, for Vichy Ole Party....

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (lZBBB)

79 #62 No-what we need are BALLS--and Boehner doesn't have them.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (wbmaj)

80 "So violence against women is now illegal (I thought it always was, silly me), but violence against men is A-OK?"

Violence against white men is required.

Posted by: Eric Holder at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (ts0yx)

81 >Why are you still a Republican?

Because of the structural impediments to a third party that make being not a Republican the exact same fucking thing as being a Democrat.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (XqeyF)

82 Boehner had been Stockholm'd

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (/gHaE)

83 I really do think the republican party is a scam, set up to make it look like people have a choice. They'll occasionally pound their chest like they did with the breif delay of confirming Hagel, but it's just theater for the masses and in the end they do what dems want, it's a scam.

Posted by: booger at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (HI6wa)

84 77
Violence Against Women?

I vote YEA


Posted by: Chris Brown at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM

Seconded

Posted by: OJ Simpson at February 28, 2013 12:59 PM (mCvL4)

85 >>>>77 Violence Against Women?

I vote YEA
Posted by: Chris Brown at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM (mCvL4)

Word.

Posted by: Ike Turner at February 28, 2013 12:59 PM (teQqO)

86 4 JollyRoger

http://youtu.be/T575Pbo4eWM

We were at the above....

http://youtu.be/kHvDoQl4OGA

we thought we'd get this


http://youtu.be/_PDCErJt3Mo
instead we got this...


Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 12:59 PM (LRFds)

87 From the sidebar; Can we un-extinct Lincoln Era Republicans?

Posted by: Marcus at February 28, 2013 12:59 PM (GGCsk)

88 Seriously Boehner, WHAT THE FUCK????????

Posted by: prescient11 at February 28, 2013 12:59 PM (SrxLv)

89 "I was at a VAWA, I went in to order a sandwich. You press a little touchtone keypad -- you touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier -- there’s your sandwich."

Posted by: Mittsy at February 28, 2013 12:59 PM (fWAjv)

90 Does rape count as "violence"?

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at February 28, 2013 12:59 PM (nZvGM)

91 #75 Pope...Catholic Church...firmer hands......
I don't know where this is going. I am a former altar boy, after all.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 28, 2013 01:00 PM (wbmaj)

92

Oh yes, we did get a glimpse of Debra Winger's red nips.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 28, 2013 01:00 PM (vzLhi)

93 With this law.... I am truly a Second Class citizen.... or perhaps third???

Lets see.... we have Government types, who don't have to follow laws at all....

Women and Minorities and Gays, who have greater protection under the law than I...

Then.... my group.... the Heterosexual White Male.... ie... the ones who pretty much created this country...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2013 01:00 PM (lZBBB)

94 84
77

Violence Against Women?

I vote YEA




Posted by: Chris Brown at February 28, 2013 12:58 PM

Seconded


Posted by: OJ Simpson at February 28, 2013 12:59 PM

Sounds good to me

Posted by: Ike Turner at February 28, 2013 01:00 PM (mCvL4)

95 Burn Baby Burn......

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 28, 2013 01:00 PM (9+ccr)

96 73 Allen G,

Everyone has had my e-mail for a long time...

just plug my nick into hotmail.

I'll warn you though I am gonna be pretty busy for ~6 months...

we're starting to get ready for the next town.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:00 PM (LRFds)

97 I've never considered myself a Republican to begin with. We don't have party registration in my state anyway.
True, I have always voted Republican, but what other reasonable option is there?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 28, 2013 01:00 PM (C8mVl)

98
Remember the argument that it would be okay if Romney lost because we would still have the House to serve as a bulwark against the leftist agenda?

Posted by: rrpjr at February 28, 2013 01:01 PM (hErNp)

99 I get the bill has a scary title, "The Violence Against Women Act"


IT has very little to do with violence against women. And with the changes made to it this time it nothing more than another protection racket for everybody but white hetero males.


And with all the slush funds and agencies authorized in it they should actually title it the "Violence Against Taxpayer Act". Hell,
if they killed this thing it would more than offset the phony cuts in
the over-hyped sequester BS.

Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2013 01:01 PM (53z96)

100 well good to know our betters are paying attention to the fact Women were allowed to be pummeled and beaten in 2012, Hell People assaulting others without an excuse for self defense should have been illegal years ago!




sigh.



fk it. fkty fk.



Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:01 PM (nqBYe)

101 Why are you still a Republican?

Because NY is a closed primary state


......

Floridian here. Same thing.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 28, 2013 01:01 PM (5H7iz)

102 Don't know if this has been brought up yet but it wasn't Boner this
time. It was Cantor cracking the whip telling the conservatives to shut
up or face "Civil War".


Sorry, Vic. No sale.

1) Boehner didn't have to schedule it for a vote in the first place. Just like Harry Reid doesn't have to schedule bills passed by the house for votes.

2) If Boehner had been doing it just so they wouldn't be seen as "obstructionist" or whatever, and had opposed it, Eric Cantor would not have been whipping up the votes in favor.

Cantor is the attack dog. Boehner is the master.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:01 PM (xN73L)

103 Boehner is a frequent flyer at the bars on Capitol Hill. The cocksucker is a weepy, chain smoking, egocentric drunk. And that's a fact.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 28, 2013 01:01 PM (wbmaj)

104 Smack a bitch now while its still legal.

Posted by: Ike Turner at February 28, 2013 01:01 PM (teQqO)

105 People like Boehner drive me up the wall. Anybody watch "Gold Rush"? Boehner is the Todd Hoffman of the House GOP. One bad decision after another, and yet after each one, he still thinks his next decision is Right On The Money. Hoffman and Boehner go from failure to failure and never seem to notice.

In Boehner's case he wants to be Speaker, you guys. Never mind whether he's equipped for the job. It's a nice feather in his cap.

But don't pressure him, you guys. He doesn't like the pressure of leadership. Shooting these fucking Democrat bills through the House is a great way to relieve/avoid the stress.

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 28, 2013 01:02 PM (Iyg03)

106 @86

Thats funny. And yeah, I think Mayo pretty much sums up how I feel about the whole thing.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 28, 2013 01:02 PM (t06LC)

107 34 Skandia Recluse,

Your oath was not just to this soil friend.

Not telling you your business, just explaining mine.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:02 PM (LRFds)

108 #102 Cantor is as much "attack dog" as my fucking Chocolate Lab.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 28, 2013 01:02 PM (wbmaj)

109 Gays, Indians will not be prosecuted for the same against others.


Gay indians get a pass? Which ones?
Casino or 7-11's?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2013 01:02 PM (GFM2b)

110 Remember the argument that it would be okay if Romney lost because we
would still have the House to serve as a bulwark against the leftist
agenda?


No. As I recall, one of the things against Romney was that he wasn't conservative enough to pull the House to the Right.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:02 PM (xN73L)

111 i should read the bill.

perhaps it offers me free down bedding (I can't live without my down bedding) for every season!

also you know if i'm not provided the sweets of my choice (ever changing of course, my prerogative)
I will claim the patriarchal establishment is abusing my needss!

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:03 PM (nqBYe)

112 Cantor is as much "attack dog" as my fucking Chocolate Lab.

I didn't say he was good at it. But that's his position none the less. That's what the Whips do. (Or is he the House Majority Leader, now? Who's the Whip? Either way, same setup).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:04 PM (xN73L)

113 So, are we done with equal protection under the law?

Posted by: cajun carrot at February 28, 2013 01:04 PM (UZQM8)

114 i must have missed the fact that abusing women was legal safe and rare until now.

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:04 PM (nqBYe)

115 Boehner should have done an honest self-assessment at the end of last year and then declined to stand for Speaker.

But that would take a sense of honor. He would have to feel there is something beyond the self--something more important than just his self interest.

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 28, 2013 01:04 PM (Iyg03)

116 113
So, are we done with equal protection under the law?

Posted by: cajun carrot at February 28, 2013 01:04 PM (UZQM
We've been done for awhile now...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 28, 2013 01:05 PM (9+ccr)

117 And Boehner said the munchkin mini-maxer had balls of marshmellows? WTF. I guess Boehner's got balls of raisins, the shriveled up remains of his onetime manhood.

Posted by: Jon in TX at February 28, 2013 01:05 PM (PYAXX)

118 28 PHXGrl,

Yup...I have been empowering people who are at best my allies and definitely not my friends my whole political life.

Krispy Kreme is a Megaton too far.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:05 PM (LRFds)

119

Feather, not dot.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 01:06 PM (p/cQy)

120 So, are we done with equal protection under the law?

Apparently you'd never heard of the VRA, or of the various "anti-harassment" laws.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:06 PM (xN73L)

121 "Why are you still a Republican?"

pro-life

quaint position that some only pay lip service to i know. but Supreme Court justices 'n all that.

Posted by: JDP at February 28, 2013 01:06 PM (60GaT)

122 'Prodigy' hardest hit.


http://tinyurl.com/c6mhsrb

(YouTube-"Smack My Bitch Up" vid)

Posted by: RWC at February 28, 2013 01:06 PM (fWAjv)

123
Someone please explain why VAWA is a federal issue anyway? Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: Jon in TX at February 28, 2013 01:06 PM (PYAXX)

124 56 Is VAWA some kind of code for VJAYJAY?
Posted by: Marcus at February 28, 2013 12:55 PM (GGCsk)
______
At least it wasn't named the Violence Against Girls IN America Act.

Posted by: Dante at February 28, 2013 01:06 PM (0m62M)

125 Why are you still a Republican?

Only so I can vote in the primaries. But I'm seriously rethinking even that...

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 28, 2013 01:07 PM (7ObY1)

126
The Repubs don't need a leader or an attack dog, the establishment just votes with the Dems.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 01:07 PM (p/cQy)

127 Why do you hate women, Drew?

Posted by: Andy at February 28, 2013 01:07 PM (C/NnJ)

128 117
And Boehner said the munchkin mini-maxer had balls of marshmellows? WTF.
I guess Boehner's got balls of raisins, the shriveled up remains of his
onetime manhood.

Posted by: Jon in TX at February 28, 2013 01:05 PM (PYAXX)

Chocolate salty marshmallows , tasty! Melts in your mouth!

Posted by: John Boehner at February 28, 2013 01:07 PM (AWmfW)

129 so can women have a fatwa against any music or media that might influence the sad plight of women in 2013?

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:07 PM (nqBYe)

130
"I didn't say he was good at it. But that's his position none the less. That's what the Whips do. (Or is he the House Majority Leader, now? Who's the Whip? Either way, same setup)."
Whip is Kevin McCarthy, another useless twat.

Posted by: Jon in TX at February 28, 2013 01:08 PM (PYAXX)

131
"Why do I care about the future of the country? That question also gets attention at least once a week. The answer is always Duty, Honor, Country, to little effect"

The answer is fast becoming "The Personal Survival of You and Yours".. Hopefully, that'll be effective.

Posted by: Jaws at February 28, 2013 01:08 PM (4I3Uo)

132 Someone please explain why VAWA is a federal issue anyway? Anyone? Anyone?

We ceased having a Federal Government back in the 30s. We've had a National Government since at least FDR.

Sadly, most people you speak to won't understand the difference or the significance of that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:08 PM (xN73L)

133 Why are you still a Republican?

I'm not just waiting on the Florida department of elections to send my new voter card back to me.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at February 28, 2013 01:08 PM (HEa5q)

134 Why do you hate women, Drew?

Posted by: Andy at February 28, 2013 01:07 PM (C/NnJ)

Huh?
i like Drew!

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:08 PM (nqBYe)

135 66 ---"Seems like an equal protection and 1st amendment case in the making."

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 28, 2013 12:56 PM (t06LC)
----------------
Hmmmm. I dunno. Could be a tax.

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at February 28, 2013 01:08 PM (C8mVl)

136
"No. As I recall, one of the things against Romney was that he wasn't conservative enough to pull the House to the Right."


That too. But I heard over and over again, "if worse comes to worst, we'll have the House to stop Obama."
What a sick joke. The House "leaders" jammed this Trojan Horse leftist bill down our throats.

Posted by: rrpjr at February 28, 2013 01:08 PM (hErNp)

137 Posted by: cajun carrot at February 28, 2013 01:04 PM (UZQM
We've been done for awhile now...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 28, 2013 01:05 PM (9+ccr)


THen it is time to pass the Violence Against Gingers Act...

Posted by: cajun carrot at February 28, 2013 01:09 PM (UZQM8)

138
Maxine Waters: “Over 170 Million Jobs Could Be Lost” Due To Sequester Cuts…

Errr, Maxine, there are only 134 million people working in America.

- See more at: http://weaselzippers.us/#sthash.rK6Tq0C8.dpuf

She so stupid I amazed she can walk straight

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2013 01:09 PM (9Bj8R)

139 what the hell, boehnere!!!@!#!@321

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at February 28, 2013 01:09 PM (QxSug)

140 Cantor is as much "attack dog" as my fucking Chocolate Lab.

.....

Well, I think Allen was saying he was attacking his own team.

Of course he's not attacking the other side!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 28, 2013 01:09 PM (5H7iz)

141 I think a more appropriate question is: by a show of hands, who is still a Republican?


Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 28, 2013 01:09 PM (yCvxi)

142 i guess i'm not seeing why something like this'd be an example of a dealbreaker in any case. is it a budget-buster, technical federalist grounds?

i get more if people bail if there's an immigration cave, something core like that.

Posted by: JDP at February 28, 2013 01:09 PM (60GaT)

143 Meanwhile the same bastard that was disrespectful to Nixon, our first imperial president, is pulling the same shit on our second imperial president.

Posted by: Minuteman at February 28, 2013 01:09 PM (dSE0q)

144 odumbo should have his sorry ass arrested for sending these poor wimmen off to combat!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 28, 2013 01:10 PM (8Hnjw)

145 "THen it is time to pass the Violence Against Gingers Act..." If it's women gingers, then I'm all for it. Male gingers, you're on your own. Loves me some ginger.

Posted by: Jon in TX at February 28, 2013 01:10 PM (PYAXX)

146 And I thought it would be down to 2016 before abandoned the Republican Party. Since they had that closed door strategy session last month they have completely gave up being any semblance of Republicans.


Do they think this is a winning strategy?


When 2014 rolls around and they lose the House on top of the Senate and the Presidency maybe they will change their minds..........



Naaaaahhh, who am I kidding. They are not the Party of stupid for nothing.

Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2013 01:11 PM (53z96)

147 I think a more appropriate question is: by a show of hands, who is still a Republican?


Not everyone all at once now...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:11 PM (xN73L)

148 joeindc i got advice for the GOP next go around: win more white Midwest votes

they should pay me for this groundbreaking strategy

Posted by: JDP at February 28, 2013 01:11 PM (60GaT)

149 Fucked we are.

Posted by: Yoda at February 28, 2013 01:12 PM (XUKZU)

150 142 JDP,

keep up the good fight...keep trying to talk up unity.

I am no longer capable of tat and am just about done with the party.

cantor can go fuck himself...he wants a civil war?

he better be careful I suspect the action is habit forming and needs wider application.

Fuck him.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:13 PM (LRFds)

151 what, the house gop couldn't add in a few goodies like anti-false rape allegation laws? or ending dead beat parent penalties, like letting the dad deduct alimony from taxes?

nope, continued to make men second class citizens.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at February 28, 2013 01:13 PM (QxSug)

152 I think a more appropriate question is: by a show of hands, who is still a Republican?



Not everyone all at once now...

I would change my status i have once before from dem to republican.

I would like to know if there is any way to actually win an election if we don't pick one or the other team?

why don't we use this as momentum to change the party we are left with?

if we have time.

and that's is debatable.

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:13 PM (nqBYe)

153
yeah about winning more white Midwest votes, passing this law that just made them second class citizens doesn't quite help.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 01:13 PM (p/cQy)

154 only one thing is certain.
I m not proud to be a republican.

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:14 PM (nqBYe)

155 We should have listened. They tried to tell us that if you have Boner four more than four hours, see a doctor.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 28, 2013 01:14 PM (XUKZU)

156 How hard is it say, "No bills until the Senate passes a budget." (Not even one that matches the House, just a budget from their side.)

Is this a really hard job being in Congress or something? You have a handler, a campaign manager, a staff, a few nekkid interns, pension, cocktail parties.

What am I missing? Seriously.

I would like to truth-serum these guys and ask them, honestly, what do us peons not understand about what they [have to] do. Help me understand! Educate me on why it is so f'n hard to stick to / execute non-lib policies. I want to learn the secrets of the world! Pull back the veil!

Educate me.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 28, 2013 01:14 PM (X/+QT)

157 What about the bulls? There's nothing in the damn bill about the bulls!

Posted by: Arrgh Madcow at February 28, 2013 01:14 PM (bGlsD)

158 **joeindc i got advice for the GOP next go around: win more white Midwest votes**

how about this?

enforce voter ID laws in blue state inner city voter fraud, ballot stuffing districts?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at February 28, 2013 01:14 PM (QxSug)

159 141 Burn the Witch,

still a registered "R' in Ohio....

probably won't be once I buy land and wife switches her residency...

It's down to:

Texas, Louisiana, North Dakota/Montana/Wyoming, or Canada.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:15 PM (LRFds)

160 Does the R leadership *cough* think this will go unnoticed by most R voters because the story will be buried under Pope headlines?

Posted by: Invictus at February 28, 2013 01:15 PM (OQpzc)

161 How hard is it say, "No bills until the Senate passes a budget." (Not even one that matches the House, just a budget from their side.)
***
omg, it's like it would be if the GOP had a brain.
How painful is it to watch this happen for 4 years?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at February 28, 2013 01:15 PM (QxSug)

162 Don't fire until you see the whites of their . . . Oh fuck it. Just don't fire. This is not the hill to die on.

Posted by: Boehner at Bunker Hill at February 28, 2013 01:15 PM (XUKZU)

163 No fan of theBoehner, but it must suck knowing that
your political adversary can demand anything and get away with it,
because the media will cover it up. Why every Republican who goes on the
media for an interview does not start by saying "Fuck You..." I can't
imagine.

Posted by: sherlock at February 28, 2013 12:53 PM (Bn9/M)

Dittos.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 28, 2013 01:16 PM (bb5+k)

164 1152 Willow Ette,

Yeah about that....

it was called 2010.

The DC GOP hates me as much as I hate Ogabe.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:16 PM (LRFds)

165 We're all thinking it ... Boehner's a nice guy, he's just in over his head.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 28, 2013 01:17 PM (Ipj15)

166 why don't we use this as momentum to change the party we are left with?

Because you can't "repair" a ship when its main beam and timbers are all set with dry-rot. You have to burn it and build a new one.

It's not like this is the first, second, or even tenth time we've been betrayed by our supposed representatives. And every time some establishment hack comes in and tells us we "don't understand," or "it's not as bad as you think."

Well, fuck that noise. I do understand. I understand that the Republican Party (as a Party- specific members may be excluded) stopped representing me sometime in 2006. It is every bit as bad as I think, because the senators and representatives refuse to represent my interests. If they won't do that, then I have nothing to gain in representing or supporting them.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:17 PM (xN73L)

167 I don't get the point of these circular firing squads?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2013 01:17 PM (9Bj8R)

168 What am I missing? Seriously.

The Repub party is no longer on your side. They are only on their side and that includes an ever growing bigger govt in spending and regulations.

I used to always make obvious suggestions too, until I got that through my thick head. The repubs and dems act in unison behind the kabuki curtain.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 01:18 PM (p/cQy)

169
ALL of the Dems voted for this horrible law.
138 Repubs voted against it. (87 for it.)
That is why I have no choice but to vote GOP.

BTW, when the GOP loses the House in 2014, there will be some serious gun-control legislation passed, among other things.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 28, 2013 01:18 PM (C8mVl)

170 Fuck Boehner. Fuck the GOP. Let it burn.

Posted by: OhioCoastie at February 28, 2013 01:18 PM (pKCuj)

171 At this point, balls made of marshmellows would be an improvement.

Posted by: The Juice at February 28, 2013 01:18 PM (7pOq5)

172 Yeah about that....

it was called 2010.

The DC GOP hates me as much as I hate Ogabe.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:16 PM (LRFds)

sure I get that, so what is the solution in reality?

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:18 PM (nqBYe)

173 Another nail in the GOP coffin. Pity.

Posted by: Attila at February 28, 2013 01:19 PM (Cs2tJ)

174 Pandering to the vaginacentric American community.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 28, 2013 01:19 PM (XUKZU)

175 158 well voter ID's fine. i just was talking what i'd hope the GOP does next go around, once it ends the post-election handwringing about "too old, too white" blahblah. they seem more concerned about making themselves "respectable" at the moment as opposed to more electorally effective. the two don't completely correlate.

Posted by: JDP at February 28, 2013 01:19 PM (60GaT)

176 Of course, now that I am a native american, I might be able to some of you white oppressors prosecuted if you hurt my feelings, or cut me off in traffic in a privileged oppressor patriarchy way.

Posted by: Invictus at February 28, 2013 01:19 PM (OQpzc)

177 167 I don't get the point of these circular firing squads?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2013 01:17 PM (9Bj8R)

_________________

Don't feed them.

Wait for a new thread.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2013 01:19 PM (r2PLg)

178 BTW, when the GOP loses the House in 2014, there will be some serious gun-control legislation passed, among other things.

To quote a good man: "They can take my guns from my cold, dead hands."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:19 PM (xN73L)

179 nevergiveup

neither do i.....i don't know the GOP is attacking me and mine on a daily basis....i gave them money.....i voted for them and they are ripping my country to shreds.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl member of WAVAWA at February 28, 2013 01:20 PM (GVxQo)

180 Any new "rights" bill passed with the word "Act" in it, creates another law suit weapon. Plus, the funding that goes along with this, will be yet another democrat vote buying mechanism.

Posted by: Deli LLama at February 28, 2013 01:20 PM (lGu1O)

181 Hey assholes, Boehner had to get to his three martini lunch (breakfast) give him a break. Those olives aren't going to suck themselves!

Posted by: Mare at February 28, 2013 01:20 PM (9xhPY)

182 This is interesting...

http://www.ovw.usdoj.gov [REMOVE THIS] /docs/2012-biennial-report-to-congress.pdf

Scroll down to page 65 of the report where it talks about prosecutions. The vibe I'm getting is that prosecutors and police are unwilling and incompetent when it comes to abuse/stalking cases.

Conviction rates are low, and plea bargains to significantly lesser crimes are too common.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 28, 2013 01:21 PM (/gHaE)

183 sure I get that, so what is the solution in reality?


Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:18 PM (nqBYe)


Art V convention best choiceRevolution second choice
Complete collapse of society is inevitable if don't have one of first two.

Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2013 01:21 PM (53z96)

184 The repubs and dems act in unison behind the kabuki curtain.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2013 01:18 PM (p/cQy)


I believe our Empress AtC prefers the term, bukakke.

Posted by: KG at February 28, 2013 01:21 PM (p7BzH)

185 If they won't do that, then I have nothing to gain in representing or supporting them.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:17 PM (xN73
I understand this is happening. Still how will not being any party member help us get any semblence of a grasp back at responsible leadership?
we vote as independant and get 10% of a vote?

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:21 PM (nqBYe)

186 See what happens when your Party is headed up by someone whose name has some Penis reference to it???

Posted by: President Richard Nixon at February 28, 2013 01:21 PM (lZBBB)

187 Educate me.

"Shut up!" the Republicans explained.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 28, 2013 01:21 PM (+z4pE)

188 Your mailbox is like your house's vagina.

Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2013 01:22 PM (I2LwF)

189 Where former repoter Woodward differs from Breitbart is - at the 48 hour mark, after all of the denials and spin chime in, Breitbart would produce the videotape.

Posted by: Whatev at February 28, 2013 01:22 PM (A7Wh1)

190 167 NGU,

there is no circular firing squad Dick Cantor just passed backdoor gun control champ.

I am not firing I am staring in awe at the fuckhead house GOP allowing mules to pass everything they can and not trying to make Stretch Pelousy pay for 2007-2011.

I gave enough since 08 to have bought had I used my money more wisely my dream Henry Rifle, my Marlin 96 for a 45-70 solution, and get a Dragoon converted to .45lc and have enough left over to recreate my '72 Mach I with 428 Interceptor package....

I mean I cannot express forcefully enough the raw level of betrayal the socialist wing of the GOP has levied in me.

24 years of dedication and Boner et al cannot be bothered to give a simple..."fuck you no business other than the Sequester, and THEN no business until the budget."

Fuck cantor, fuck Cantor, fuck cantor.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:22 PM (LRFds)

191 New one

Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2013 01:22 PM (53z96)

192 Art V convention best choiceRevolution second choice
Complete collapse of society is inevitable if don't have one of first two.


Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2013 01:21 PM (53z96)

You aren't concerned the populace or those that could still swing ideas like the medai, wouldn't swing This opportunity to total socialist/communist?

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:22 PM (nqBYe)

193 183 Vic,

from your lips pray God to Freedom's ears...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:23 PM (LRFds)

194 I understand this is happening. Still how will not being any party
member help us get any semblence of a grasp back at responsible
leadership?


It won't. Not immediately.

You don't seem to understand. As I move more deeply into the LIB camp, I give far less consideration to "responsible leadership."

I'll take care of me and mine through the coming zombie apocalypse. If there's a government afterwards, so much the better.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:23 PM (xN73L)

195
I think a 12th century, barely relevant, historical reference would be nice right about now.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 28, 2013 01:23 PM (vanqS)

196 This is what happens when running away becomes a habit. They've conditioned themselves to cave on demand. It was this quisling mindset, more than anything else, that doomed the Whigs.

Posted by: troyriser at February 28, 2013 01:23 PM (vtiE6)

197 Another nail in the GOP coffin. Pity.


Posted by: Attila at February 28, 2013 01:19 PM (Cs2tJ)


The lid should be all nail heads by now. I'd really like to wake up on a day where Boehner surprises me by doing something strategically intelligent but it's like a real life version of Groundhog Day where he doesn't learn a fucking thing from his continual failures.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2013 01:23 PM (7gaSu)

198 9 Why are you still a republican?
No more, no more. Tea Party.



This is what Boner and his ilk want- they want you to remove yourself from the process. They want you to abdicate your power and give it to them.

Don't do it.

Be MORE republican. Go to the meetings. Take over the committees. Run for your party state committee. Take these assholes out before its too late.

Or failing that, get yourself into a position to dole out patronage positions to your family.

Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2013 01:24 PM (I2LwF)

199
Perhaps something from William Wallace?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 28, 2013 01:24 PM (GcwH1)

200 Just sent an email to Boehner telling him he's feckless and faithless and he will be held responsible for the demise of the Republican party.

Told him I wondered why we sent Republicans to the House when all they do is do the bidding of Obama and the Democrats.

Told him he should be ashamed of himself as I can't figure out how he thinks what he's doing is doing himself, the party or the country any good and that I hope he has a good reason because in the years ahead he's going to need it while he watches himself, the party and the country sink into oblivion.

I'm not going to bother to write my representative because he just got this part of PA attached to his district because of redistricting and his constituency is way and hell and gone to the east from me. I wrote him campaign guy about this and got a bunch of pablum back. Still voted for him cause, hey, I had a tiny bit of faith left in the Representatives. I knew that the Senate was lost cause. Every one of those dimbulbs think they're ready to lead the country and wish they could walk around in togas and look all empirey and stuff, as for the Presidential candidate, well we see what he was really all about. He didn't want the job and he fought for it like he didn't want the job.


but I thought we had a shot at containing these jack holes with the Representatives because they live closer to the real than anyone else in DC and they've got businesses and homes here.

But no. I was wrong. They've all got delusions of grandeur and think they can just keep pissing on our shoes and we'll keep believing it's rain.

NO. MORE. NOT. ONE. THIN. DIME. NOT ONE. PHONE. CALL. NOT. ONE. VOTE. ONE. MORE. TIME.

If in 2014 there's no third party, I'm writing in someone for every office. (maybe I'll just put my name in there) That'll give the old ladies in the voting place something to do cause they have to set the machine up for those. They'll be remembering me for a while.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 28, 2013 01:24 PM (qyv02)

201 192 Willow Ette,

then you rally the good and dare the bad to come try to force you to their will ma'am...

I want to win in this nation as rendered, barring that had I faith that there was equality in access to the arena of ideas and a chance I'd fight here, barring that I'd lobby for an Art V break up, barring that I'd lobby my state Govt to try to buy its way out, barring that I'd simply have a declaration of independence, and if they won't allow me that I'll meet them fire for fire.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:25 PM (LRFds)

202 neither do i.....i don't know the GOP is attacking
me and mine on a daily basis....i gave them money.....i voted for them
and they are ripping my country to shreds.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl member of WAVAWA at February 28, 2013 01:20 PM (GVxQo)

and we know we Begged for Boehner to be released from his position and they laughed and said He spoke for them. Alos the dissing of sensible finaces as Tea Party supported they dissed.

i'm not arguing this at all. just how we get any power back to change the course of the country.
if possible.
(

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:25 PM (nqBYe)

203 198 TruNorth,

Sorry I am gonna focus on taking my state with me.

The game is rigged.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:25 PM (LRFds)

204
William Wallace didn't live in the 12th C in 3...2...

Posted by: soothsayer at February 28, 2013 01:26 PM (NLH1M)

205 Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:22 PM (nqBYe)


Since every State only gets one vote no, I am not concerned.

Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2013 01:26 PM (53z96)

206 sure I get that, so what is the solution in reality?

The way things are currently structured, I'm not really sure. The people we send to Washington are acting against the interests of the country and nothing seems to dissuade them from that. We lost control of our own government many years ago.

I'd like to say, "Find a candidate you like and send money only to them, not the national GOP" as a start. But, given recent events, there's no guarantee that anyone we elect will do our bidding.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 28, 2013 01:28 PM (+z4pE)

207 New "Media are idiot children" post up! My favorite kind, I must say.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 28, 2013 01:29 PM (4df7R)

208 You don't seem to understand. As I move more deeply
into the LIB camp, I give far less consideration to "responsible
leadership."

I'll take care of me and mine through the coming zombie apocalypse. If there's a government afterwards, so much the better.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:23 PM (xN73L)

so you think there is no possible way to turn this horse around?
i srsly hope your wrong for all of our sakes.
I do think that it is likely this will be the scenario no matter how i hope differently.

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:30 PM (nqBYe)

209 i'm not arguing this at all. just how we get any power back to change the course of the country.

New party. WRT Truman North, he's wrong about being "More Republican." Yes, go to party meetings and such, but do it with an eye toward convincing them to STOP supporting people with an R after their name and start supporting people with a (whatever letter your new party uses) after their name.

Point out that votes for Republicans are tacit votes for Boehner and Cantor and McConnel until Congressional Republicans repudiate those three. Point out that votes for Republicans, even at the State Level are tacit votes of support for these mewling quims in Congress.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:31 PM (xN73L)

210 so you think there is no possible way to turn this horse around?

I'm not quite there, yet. But I'm getting closer.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 28, 2013 01:31 PM (xN73L)

211 so you think there is no possible way to turn this horse around?

They shoot horses with broken legs...

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 28, 2013 01:32 PM (/gHaE)

212 Thank you guys for your responses.

srsly I've been gasping for air in this.

Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:33 PM (nqBYe)

213 Is it just me, or does not a single day go by where we do nothave some obnoxious Obama leftist activist legislation being proposed/voted on/debated? Does he never for a minute stop throwing crap at the wall? Or if no legislation (rare) must there always be some sort of Obama appearance in a pop culture medium? They are like never resting, incessant termites, always boring into the foundations of what might have been a nice place.

Posted by: RM at February 28, 2013 01:34 PM (/Frlf)

214 Remember when the Republicans won big in 2010, and then the leadership came out and acted all humble and contrite? They said they learned their lesson from their brief stay in the wilderness and knew they were on a short leash. Yeah, that was funny.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at February 28, 2013 01:34 PM (nZvGM)

215 I want to get into another "Republican War on Women" event right now. I mean - that sort of distraction wouldn't help the White House in any way, right? It couldn't be exploited by them in any way, right?

It wouldn't be a real good way to set the Woodward Event into the background and provide a way for the administration and the MFM to kiss and make up, and then go after the true foes, the Republicans, right?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at February 28, 2013 01:42 PM (hLRSq)

216 107
34 Skandia Recluse,

Your oath was not just to this soil friend.

Not telling you your business, just explaining mine.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:02 PM

It would not be honorable for my country to go out and conquer neighboring states, even though we did, (long before I was born), and the two most recent (Germany and Japan) appear to be the better for it. South Korea has also done well, it would seem.

You can not be making the case that native American peoples would be better off if Western European settlers had not claimed sovereign right? Rhodesia? South Africa? Is South Africa better off now, better for whom? Detroit? Toss India into the discussion. Better now because of the recognition that the principles of Western Civilization (Adam Smith and free markets, Democracy, and Christianity) produce better results for more people than Karl Marx and Feudal societies with social systems based on caste or social class.

You can not be advancing the ideology that native peoples would be better off left to their own administration and superstitions or that Western Civilization is a poor administrator of civil society?

Lest you mistake my intent, I wish only to live in peace with my neighbors. It is when my neighbors are provoked to war against me, especially when that provocation originates in foreign civilizations, or when war is forced upon me, that elimination of those threats becomes a duty.

I am no Alexander, no Xerxes, nor even a David Duke, or Robert Byrd. I merely wish to be left alone, to learn, to trade, to live a quiet life. Is that asking too much? Of course not.

Yet look at the behaviors I must tolerate in the name of 'fairness'. When threatened by the hostile and belligerent I must submit in the name of 'tolerance'.
Behavior antithetical to my beliefs I must accept in the name of 'diversity'.

Do you not see the conundrum? The followers of the Prophet Mohammed proclaim their religious belief and I must submit or be accused of Blasphemy, nor can I practice my Christian belief, in the country in which I was born, for that is an affront to those who are not Christian.

No, I am not an Imperialist, though I do believe that the world would be a better place if we were, if we did it the way we used to.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2013 01:48 PM (4ILQs)

217 Reid to Boehnor: "How's my cock taste, boy?"

Posted by: scott at February 28, 2013 01:48 PM (gBMo2)

218 Remember when the Republicans won big in 2010, and
then the leadership came out and acted all humble and contrite? They
said they learned their lesson from their brief stay in the wilderness
and knew they were on a short leash. Yeah, that was funny.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at February 28, 2013 01:34 PM (nZvGM)


A month or two after the 2010 elections, Paul Ryan was on Hugh Hewitt's show. I usually can't stand to listen to Hewitt, for a variety of reasons, but this time he made a lot of sense on how he kept banging on Ryan that the election was all about cutting spending and they'd damn sight better legislate accordingly and that they were making a mistake by partially backtracking on it. Ryan insisted that there would be deep cuts in actual spending, not this horseshit dialing back the rate of future increases, and that "you ain't seen nothing yet and you can judge us on the future results". The trouble is we still ain't seen nothing and there's no indication that this will change.

If anybody is a regular listener of Hewitt, does he ever bring this up?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2013 01:50 PM (7gaSu)

219 So he makes the Republicans that know this is poorly written legislation vote against the bill. And now the dimocrats can pound them with the help of the media that they hate wymyns! Brilliant!!! How the he!! is this twink still Speaker?

Posted by: Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 at February 28, 2013 01:51 PM (Ph479)

220 216 Skandia Recluse,


I respect what you're saying. I'd offer the feeble justification that we sincerely tried to live up to the Boy Scout Code and leave the places we visited the betetr for it.

We often failed.

The coming United States of Chicago are not trying to spread Locke, Smith, and the rights of man....

they are an engine of devouring hunger.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2013 01:52 PM (LRFds)

221 Boner knows Best.

Posted by: nip at February 28, 2013 01:53 PM (11Tdq)

222 Dear Drew,

I am not a Republican.

Posted by: Todd Akin at February 28, 2013 01:53 PM (5yW9A)

223 Dear Drew,

I AM a Republican!

Posted by: John McCain at February 28, 2013 01:55 PM (11Tdq)

224 Me, too.

Posted by: Olympia Snowe at February 28, 2013 01:55 PM (11Tdq)

225 Yep.

Posted by: Rove, Karl at February 28, 2013 01:56 PM (11Tdq)

226 It wouldn't be a real good way to set the Woodward Event into the background and provide a way for the administration and the MFM to kiss and make up, and then go after the true foes, the Republicans, right?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at February 28, 2013 01:42 PM (hLRSq)

Nothing is going to come of this Woodward Event just as nothing came of far greater scandals. The MSM is in the tank and they're going to stay in the tank. In fact, I imagine some of them love the abuse because they're flattered by the attention. (He noticed me! He noticed me!)

Republican leaders such as Boehner act as if they're strategy mastersplaying three-dimensional chess: 'If he does this, we do this, then he does this, then we do this and WIN!'They're not good at it, frankly. They're an army locked in perpetual retrograde maneuver because they've convinced themselves no issue is quite big enough to risk a fight. Fewer still seem to realize they're in a fight.

Posted by: troyriser at February 28, 2013 01:56 PM (vtiE6)

227 Didnt havea chance to read the earlier posts, so I don't know if this was mentioned. Mark Levin was going ballistic about this last night. This is his take. Apparently this is beyond a re-authorization of VAWA, but a rejiggered one that broadens the concept of "women" to include transgendered and illegal aliens and expands "violence" to include language that makes people feel bad. And then wraps it up in a "domestic violence" package. Guess what happens if you are convicted of domestic violence: lose your gun rights. And BTW Levin said that it reverses the burden of proof onto the accused. Forward!

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at February 28, 2013 01:56 PM (qwK3S)

228 Seriously - instead of holding on sequestration and guns the Republicans should just oppose every thing, because in no way, shape, or form would the White House produce another squirrel event like the

"Republican War on Women"

to distract everything away from the main issues of the time. Important issues that are not the

"Republican War on Women"

but effect the rights of the citizenry and the very future of the USA, unlike the

"Republican War on Women"

that everyone else on this thread is so eager to see fought again, because goodness knows we did so well with the

"Republican War on Women"

distraction last summer.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at February 28, 2013 01:57 PM (hLRSq)

229 226-Paragraph three makes way to much sense.

Posted by: nip at February 28, 2013 01:58 PM (11Tdq)

230 "117 And Boehner said the munchkin mini-maxer had balls of marshmellows? WTF. I guess Boehner's got balls of raisins, the shriveled up remains of his onetime manhood."

He was quoted as saying Obama had balls of marshmellows, because he refused to make decisions.

Not like Big John Boehner. HE rams through laws despite his caucus. THAT takes balls.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 28, 2013 02:06 PM (wArqa)

231 I think a 12th century, barely relevant, historical reference would be nice right about now.

Pope Joan was a legendary female Pope who allegedly reigned for a few years some time during the Middle Ages. The story first appeared in 13th-century chronicles, and was subsequently spread and embellished throughout Europe. It was widely believed for centuries, though modern religious scholars consider it fictitious, perhaps deriving from historicized folklore regarding Roman monuments or from anti-papal satire. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at February 28, 2013 02:19 PM (evdj2)

232
"Hasteret rule"




Good times. Good times....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 28, 2013 02:29 PM (kdS6q)

233 The jokes write themselves: she's an "oral biology" major, working on a lab rotation for dental school.
Good. Then I'm safe. Woof. Woof.

Posted by: toby the beagle at February 28, 2013 02:34 PM (ORGYc)

234
the legislation passed with significant numbers of Democratic votes, marking the third time in two months that Speaker John A. Boehner, Republican of Ohio, has brought a bill to the floor without having the support of a majority of his conference. A deal to avert automatic tax increases at the beginning of the year, as well as a relief package for states hit by Hurricane Sandy, also passed the House largely with the support of Democratic votes.




Actually, so far the House has only been in session for 23 days this year. Therefor, Boehner is only going belly up on a mere 3/23rds of the days.

On average.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 28, 2013 02:38 PM (kdS6q)

235 The conservative media was totally asleep at the switch on this one.

This may be by far the worst thing the Obama Administration has done.

According to Mark Levin's radio program last night, this program:

• is to protect not only women, but gays, transgenders and other freaks

• it is not only about violence; it is also a crime to engage in "disturbing speech" against aforementioned victim class.

• under this law, once accused you are guilty until proven innocent.

• once convicted, you may not ever own a gun.

• it also provides for visas for illegals supposedly victimized by such behavior.

This a fascist power and control grab by the Left beyond their wildest dreams. We now live in the former Republic of the United States of America and have become the Socialist States of Amerika.

And oh, by the way, the Republican House Leadership as most have discussed above, rammed this Fascist piece of crap that destroys our liberties, down our throats.

Every member of the House and Senate who voted for this should be tried for High Treason, convicted and shot immediately.

It has now become perfectly clear that the RINO House Leadership are all TWANLOC and are all enemies of the people. The Republican Party has become just a bit player to feign opposition in the Obama Kabuki Theatre Political Troup.

Posted by: Unsk at February 28, 2013 02:55 PM (8Pmxu)

236
Looks like changing my registered party affiliation for voting away from GOP just moved waaaaay up in my list of things to do next week...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 28, 2013 03:24 PM (62WS0)

237 "Don't know if this has been brought up yet but it wasn't Boner this time. It was Cantor cracking the whip telling the conservatives to shut up or face "Civil War"."

What's wrong with a civil war for the right reasons?

Posted by: Crude at February 28, 2013 03:30 PM (eLtHg)

238 The VAWA is a worthless piece of legislation that does nothing to protect women from (already illegal) violence. A piece of paper (Order for Protection) does nothing to stop a violent person from carrying out their plans.

The only thing the VAWA does effectively is act as a club for a woman (who is abusive, or cheating, or otherwise being vindictive) to falsely accuse a non-abusive husband in order to gain the upper hand. Innocent men get kicked out of their homes with only the clothes on their back, get their kids taken away, guns taken away, and a host of other things, all while they are still required to provide full financial support for their spouse.

This is done without due process and is based only on allegations with no evidence. Sure, men can get a hearing (after waiting at least 2 weeks) to offer their side of the story, but its still his word against hers, and a man's life can be ruined by an unsympathetic judge. The woman gets support and coaching from domestic violence groups, but there are no resources or other safeguards for men who have been falsely accused and who are often victims of domestic violence themselves.

This new version of the VAWA does nothing to address these issues, and it makes it even easier for the woman to get an OFP (if a man raises his voice or calls her an offensive name). Despite what the law says, there are NO penalties for a woman who falsely accuses. Prosecutors will not charge them.

Another lovely aspect of this law: once the OFP is in place, it is very easy for the woman to lie further (fake text message, claim he keeps driving by, etc etc) and get the man arrested (minimum 2 days in jail) and possibly charged with an OFP violation.

Posted by: garagelogician at February 28, 2013 04:14 PM (W6jGg)

239 I understand this is happening. Still how will not
being any party member help us get any semblence of a grasp back at
responsible leadership?
we vote as independant and get 10% of a vote?




Posted by: willow ette at February 28, 2013 01:21 PM (nqBYe)
Being a member of the Republican party does not help, because as far as actual policy is concerned, there is not a difference. I offer for your consideration Anthony Codavilla's recent essay at Forbes Magazine, "As Country Club Republicans Link Up With The Democratic Ruling Class Millions of Voters Are Orphaned".
http://tinyurl.com/cyusypq
2/3 of this country has no one in the political system representing their values, interests, or needs. I am not in favor of starting a Third Party, I want a real Second Party. As has been said before; "If we are going to be a minority party and lose elections anyway, why can't it at least be our own party?". Even without honest elections, a real Conservative party will be an organizing point for whatever comes.
As far as our future, I think it is going to combine features of the Great Depression and the Civil War. Vote fraud is institutionalized to the point that electoral politics are probably moot. Even if Boehner had a measurable testosterone count, do you really think that after the votes are counted, that Republicans could win? In my state, in 17 of our 64 counties and after "cleaning" the voter rolls, we have more registered voters than we have people of voting age living there. Normal voter registration is within 5 points of 50% of the voting age population.
Times are going to be hard, hungry, and probably violent. Prepare for the worst to care for you and yours. Keep true to the Oath, and remember that what will decide things is not only what you do if the forces of the Left come for you. It will depend also on what you do when they come for your neighbor, the guy 3 blocks over, or the guy across town.

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at February 28, 2013 06:05 PM (/BUFT)

240 "The thing about John Boehner is he's a sopping wet pussy."

Nah, the thing about john boehner is he cries like a 13 year old girl on her first period, but it's because his twat dried up and shriveled to dust decades ago.

Posted by: Torqued at February 28, 2013 08:09 PM (AKS75)

241 The only reason I'm a nominal Republican is to get of the Republican leadership.

Posted by: MlR at February 28, 2013 10:09 PM (vR2l5)

242 You who cry for your pablam.

I give you

The Bainer

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at February 28, 2013 10:10 PM (Yzu6e)






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