Seth McFarlane, Barack Obama, and Rush Limbaugh's Observation About David Letterman's Sudden Fans

A long, long, long time ago Rush had an observation about David Letterman's fans that I didn't agree with, at all.

At the time.

Now I get it: He was completely right.

This was back when David Letterman was completely apolitical, so none of this was due to Limbaugh's animus about Letterman's politics. In fact, at this time, Letterman was suspected of being a "nonvoting Republican" (as one of his writers, I think, guessed to the media).

So, Letterman had gone on CBS at 11:30 and instantly zoomed to the top of the ratings. Everyone Loved Dave.

Limbaugh -- again, not making a political observation but a purely human one -- said that that would not last, and that the people suddenly watching Letterman did not really find Letterman funny, but were simply being told by people who were funny that he was funny and so were claiming to find him funny.

Limbaugh probably (though I don't remember if this is true) noted that if these new viewers really liked Letterman's humor, nothing previously prevented them from VCRing the long-running 12:30 am NBC Letterman show every night and then watching it the following evening. (Yes, these were the days of the VCR, and yes, I used to do that myself).

So he just didn't believe that these people really liked Letterman. They had had more-than-ample previous opportunities to like Letterman, and had passed on them all.

This is just hype, he said, and the herd mentality of people; if enough people say It's Popular, they'll follow along.

But not forever. Because while people will watch a show for a while to be part of the It's Popular crowd, ultimately they'll find it to be too much of a labor and will start doing what they actually prefer.

Now, at the time, I was a Dave Letterman Super Fan. I loved the guy's humor. I'd been watching him since he would guest host on Carson. So I thought Rush was just crabbing here, maybe being jealous of another broadcaster's success. No, I judged, Rush is quite wrong; people love Letterman because he's always been super-funny and only now are they really catching up with Cult Opinion on the matter.

But we all know how that turned out. Jay Leno did one high-visibility show-- the Hugh Grant appearance -- and from that moment on all half of Dave's Super-Fans moved immediately, and irretrievably, to Leno's camp.

I was thinking about this as I read this Mediaite writer claiming Serious You Guys, Seth McFarlane killed the Oscars last night, so funny you guys.

Really? Or have you just heard These Kids Are Really Into Seth McFarlane now and so you're jumping on?

Seth McFarlane is a guy with some real comedy chops... which he used up five years ago and has been coasting on since without any update to his act. Now he's a Cartoon Salesman who does the Stewie Voice.*

There was a time when Sarah Silverman was, in fact, intensely funny. But no schtick can stay funny forever, and at some point, you've made enough Rape jokes.

And Obama.... Well, I don't know if he was every actually anything at all, except a rabble rouser who could turn his "black dialect" on and off, as Harry Reid observed. But I do know the same Follow the Lead Sheep thing has been going on with him for a while.

* The Star Wars parodies were pretty good.

Here's a Big Problem with Seth McFarlane: Ironically, Seth McFarlane now insists upon himself.

Posted by: Ace at 04:41 PM



Comments

1 family guy is not funny.

its horrible.

married with children...not funny.

Posted by: rev dr e buzz at February 25, 2013 04:44 PM (R0PwH)

2 When Capt Kirk appeared last night, couldn't have have told us if a universe existed where Seth McFarlane is funny?

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2013 04:45 PM (mCvL4)

3 We're not giving up on the Chicago Jesus just yet.

Posted by: The Lead Sheep. at February 25, 2013 04:45 PM (l3vZN)

4 Wasn't that Biden that had the black dialect observation?

Posted by: CUS at February 25, 2013 04:46 PM (84pE9)

5 We're not giving up on the Chicago Jesus just yet.

Posted by: The Lead Sheep. at February 25, 2013 04:45 PM (l3vZN)
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Come to poppa.

Posted by: The Cliff at February 25, 2013 04:47 PM (84pE9)

6 I am not a Seth MacFarlane fan, at all, and I find Family Guy loathesome. I'm saying that so you'll understand just how serious you guys I am about this next statement. His big band album Music Is Better Than Words is superb. I'm not kidding, it's really really great. Hell, I'd put it right up next to Robbie Williams' Swing When You're Winning.




Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 04:47 PM (VtjlW)

7 OT, FWIW

market-ticker.org has declared Tickercon 1.

Which means, for those of you unfamiliar with his analysis:

Time's up.

Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 04:47 PM (hO9ad)

8 For some reason this post seemed really...short.

I agree. There was a time (First 3 seasons or so) where Family Guy was really damn funny.

I'll say it. I never cared for the Simpsons. Pacing was too slow. Every episode seemed the same. I thought Dave pushed the limits back in the day (pre-cable). Post cable though, the limits aren't there anymore.
Sarah Silverman was never funny.
Obama has an advantage though, his schtick has a long shelf life seeing as its been used since the 60s.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 25, 2013 04:47 PM (t06LC)

9 This is just hype, he said, and the herd mentality of people; if enough people say It's Popular, they'll follow along.

But not forever. Because while people will watch a show for a while to be part of the It's Popular crowd, ultimately they'll find it to be too much of a labor and will start doing what they actually prefer.


You're just explained "Girls"

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2013 04:48 PM (mCvL4)

10 No way, Ace, Seth McFarlane is a comic genius. Remember that one time on Family Guy where he interrupted a conversation between Brian and Stewie with a sudden jump-cut to a semi-obscure 1980's pop culture reference? That shit was awesome.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 25, 2013 04:48 PM (IykOf)

11 You can overcome any obstacle if you dig deep enough. Seriously, you guys.

Posted by: Puttin the flo in flotus at February 25, 2013 04:48 PM (bGlsD)

12 So Joe Biden is Larry "Bud" Melman?

Posted by: Dang at February 25, 2013 04:48 PM (R18D0)

13 Same trajectory as Conan O'Brien.

Posted by: BuckIV at February 25, 2013 04:48 PM (gedHR)

14 The SCOAMF was never intelligent We can all agree.

Posted by: dogfish at February 25, 2013 04:48 PM (N2yhW)

15 MacFarlane was funny. not hilarious, but funny.

a good amount of people agree with Obama's policies, at least in a vague sense

that's it

Posted by: JDP at February 25, 2013 04:49 PM (60GaT)

16 but were simply being told by people who were funny that he was funny and so were claiming to find him funny.

Because if you don't like the stuff you're told to like, you're an ignorant hick Luddite who's RUINING AMERICA!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 25, 2013 04:49 PM (/kI1Q)

17 >>>MacFarlane was funny. not hilarious, but funny.

nope.

Posted by: ace at February 25, 2013 04:49 PM (LCRYB)

18 Anyone who likes Dave Letterman now is too old to get off my lawn.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 25, 2013 04:50 PM (qyv02)

19 Letterman was funny until he moved to CBS. I used to watch him all the time on NBC, and watched his first couple weeks on CBS... And then I stopped. There was a marked shift in writing quality; apparently the funny guys did not travel with him.

Jon Stewart was funnier back then (on "The Jon Stewart Show")

Posted by: wooga at February 25, 2013 04:50 PM (7SwK/)

20 When does the reality tv bubble hit, then?

Posted by: Dave S. at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (M3APu)

21 Limbaugh probably (though I don't remember if this is true) noted that if these new viewers really
liked Letterman's humor, nothing previously prevented them from VCRing
the long-running 12:30 am NBC Letterman show every night and then
watching it the following evening.


That seems like an illogical method of arriving at what turned out to be the correct conclusion. What if a lot of people had been VCRing the show - that wouldn't have reflected in the ratings, would it? So the bump could conceivably have been from the ex-VCRing types now watching Letterman "live".

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (mO9O5)

22 @13

the masturbating bear is the greatest character in the history of late night

Posted by: Gandalf at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (OqeDl)

23 The Family Guy schitck is feast or famine if you're actually from Rhode Island. Either you love the fact that he's mocking you, or your savvy to the fact that he's mocking you.

Posted by: maloderous at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (p2s4o)

24 You've just explained "Girls"

That show is the only time I've ever seen "liked by less than half of 1% of viewers" described as "popular."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (/kI1Q)

25 I'll admit I laughed at the sock puppet rendition of the movie Flight and that's about it.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (r2PLg)

26 Being a nasty foul mouthed prick can be funny.

Too bad MacFarlane can't manage it. He's just tedious and stilted and aims for the cheap shots.

Speaking of cheap shots . . . .

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (qyv02)

27
and that the people suddenly watching Letterman did not really find Letterman funny, but were simply being told by people who were funny that he was funny and so were claiming to find him funny.


Ace, preference cascade, this is.

The cascade comes when everyone wants to be on the cool kids' bandwagon.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (KwX0v)

28 oh, and Seriously You Guys.

Posted by: maloderous at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (p2s4o)

29 >>>etterman was funny until he moved to CBS. I used to watch him all the time on NBC, and watched his first couple weeks on CBS... And then I stopped. There was a marked shift in writing quality; apparently the funny guys did not travel with him.

the decline began earlier; for the year (or whatever) when he was still at NBC, but knew he wasn't getting the Tonight show gig, he was just cranky and bitter and not very funny at all.

I think maybe he had been working hard with that goal in mind, and when that goal disappeared, his interest in doing jokes disappeared as well.

Posted by: ace at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (LCRYB)

30
McFarlane's singing and dancing were pretty adequate for a guy who hawks cartoons. I give him credit for puttin' it out there.

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (r5w1L)

31 There was a time when Sarah Silverman was, in fact, intensely funny.


I'm going to have to throw a flag for a blog policy penalty. Any post with a reference to Sarah Silverman must include the Way of the Gun clip.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (VtjlW)

32 10 if there's an issue with Family Guy today it's the straining to be offensive, where the "shock" of it is the whole joke (ironically a problem South Park constantly has,) not the ADD humor


Posted by: JDP at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (60GaT)

33 >>>Same trajectory as Conan O'Brien.

Conan O'Brien used to be the REAL genius of late-night comedy. Then, the second he took over Jay Leno's slot, it all went irrevocably downhill.

Serious You Guys, go back and try to find clips of the late '90s-to-mid-'00s Late Night With Conan O'Brien. That was subversively weird stuff.

Interestingly enough, the only guy on late-night television worth much of a damn these days is Craig Ferguson. And not because he's FUNNY -- though he is quite a witty guy -- but rather because he's the most genuinely gifted conversationalist to host a late-night TV show in my lifetime. He actually manages to make the dumb celebrity interviews entertaining.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (IykOf)

34 >>>Ace, preference cascade, this is.

I avoided saying it because people kind of hate me when I say it, since I predicted one (and prayed for one) and it never came.

Posted by: ace at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (LCRYB)

35 "...at some point, you've made enough Rape jokes."

Not true.

It's always funny.

Posted by: Edward M Kennedy at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (GsoHv)

36 I figured out that emperor Seth had no clothes when I watched Ted.

Same exact jokes as family guy. Absolutely no new ground broken whatsoever.

When I knew him back at RISD, he never seemed like the kind of guy who would ever become famous. He was just another sarcastic lefty douche.

I guess I was half right.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (WgEZw)

37 I used to like Letterman too. I'm not sure how much of it was me growing up in a Christian school and thinking he was "edgy", though. Seeing PG13 movies was quite a thrill in those days too.

Posted by: Dave S. at February 25, 2013 04:53 PM (M3APu)

38 rabble rabble rabble rabble

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at February 25, 2013 04:53 PM (XrGnJ)

39 At that time of night, I generally prefer sleep.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 25, 2013 04:53 PM (ndp2I)

40 I never watched much of Letterman. But back in the day it wasn't so much he was funny but his ego was still small enough to allow others to be funny Larry Bud Melman, Chris Elliott and assorted other odd characters that would pop up like the guy that owned the deli.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 25, 2013 04:53 PM (81UWZ)

41 What's with all the people named Seth these days? Used to be there was one guy in a different hood named Seth, now every other maroon you meet is "Seth."

Posted by: scofflawx at February 25, 2013 04:53 PM (Z6Os9)

42 I remember when I stopped watching Family Guy. They did a bit where they literally displayed Bush as a chimp. That was it. Bush was a chimp in a tree, end of joke. I actually don't have a problem with anybody making fun of any president but please at least be a little funny.

Did anyone catch his Markey Mark movie? Was that actually funny?

Posted by: Shtetl G at February 25, 2013 04:53 PM (FpTMi)

43 Ace,

Isn't this really just the same phenomenon as the preference cascade? In this case, people watched Letterman out of fear of "not being cool". And then, at some point, it just quickly ends.

this, in reality, is the same with any fad. A fad diet, toy, show. People glom onto it because they want to seem cool - not because they actually like the thing in question. And, eventually, the fact that they never really liked the thing in question overpowers the urge to keep doing it to seem cool.

I liked Letterman too, back in the day, but even I realized that his schtick and humor were not for the mainstream. Whereas Leno is perfectly suited to the mostly older audience that watches the late night shows.

I haven't watched either in years. If they were on earlier, I'd probably catch them once in awhile, but I don't care enough to DVR either. I'm already DVRing enough stuff I never watch.

As far as applying to Obama, he continues to ride high because all of the taste makers (celebs, comedians, journalists, pundits [even conservative pundits continue to laud his oratorical skills and/or political acumen]) continue to tell everyone he is the greatest thing ever and in reality, the GOP is offering little the masses want (people don't want to tighten their belts and be self-reliant).

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 25, 2013 04:53 PM (sOx93)

44 Letterman was funny because when you watch him you are either fucking, drunk, stoned, tired or any combination there of.

Carson was a FKN Brilliant entertainer.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 04:54 PM (l86i3)

45 On Humor by Ace

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 25, 2013 04:54 PM (BuSM8)

46 Hasn't Letterman admitted to being clinically depressed?


Something like that.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 04:54 PM (r2PLg)

47 That Mediaite recap and a few other raves I've seen, and I've wondered if they were watching the same show ..

It's like a fanboy who drags you to see something he thinks is just the funniest or greatest movie or show EVAH

When you don't think it was all that, the fanboy gets really pissed at you. Because so and so is FUNNIEST EVAH

I've never found Jimmy Fallon funny, yet his fanboys will act as if I've run over their mothers when I say out loud that Fallon is invited to do eulogies to make sure no one laughs during the funeral

Because Jimmy Fallon is FUNNEH, HATER !!!

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2013 04:54 PM (mCvL4)

48 You're just explained "Girls"

And the Dimocrat party, TFG, Moochelle, the MFM, Luap Nor, hipsters, the Harlem Shake, all the Transformers movies, Psy, anti-capitalism, the 99%, OWS, and Hair Club for Men.

And virtually anything else that we're told is popular.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 25, 2013 04:54 PM (+z4pE)

49
In 2007 and 8 "everyone" kept saying hoe smart Obama is and how cool Obama is.

And everyone agreed because no one likes to be in the out-group.

It's all fabricated. The whole idea is just a marketing campaign that begins with a tiny group of people.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 25, 2013 04:54 PM (GcwH1)

50 That show is the only time I've ever seen "liked by less than half of 1% of viewers" described as "popular."
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 25, 2013 04:51 PM (/kI1Q)


30 Rock.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 04:55 PM (VtjlW)

51 @37

Yeah. Pre cable.
Blowing up a fruitcake? Pure madness!
Now, eh.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 25, 2013 04:55 PM (t06LC)

52 when Maudy Fricker left the stage funny ended..That crazy guy was funny

Posted by: Clemenza at February 25, 2013 04:55 PM (x59Gv)

53 Ironically, Seth McFarlane insists upon himself.

Posted by: ace at February 25, 2013 04:55 PM (LCRYB)

54 I guess family guy is funnier to me because I live in the area and they get the accent perfect.

Also, I laugh between the jokes. Brian is Seth's POV character, and every once in a while a little truth slips out.

And it turns out Brian is a vapid hypocrite. Like the time he wanted to kill himself, so he went and got his gun out of the safe deposit box. He admitted he voted for mcCain there and I don't think it was just Brian who voted that way.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 04:55 PM (WgEZw)

55 >>>I've never found Jimmy Fallon funny, yet his fanboys will act as if I've
run over their mothers when I say out loud that Fallon is invited to do
eulogies to make sure no one laughs during the funeral


I don't find Fallon all that funny, but I will say on his behalf that he is one of the most uncannily gifted musical impersonators I've seen on TV. His Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, Eddie Vedder et. al. impressions are amazingly dead-on good. The guy has genuine musical talent.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 25, 2013 04:56 PM (IykOf)

56


I used to watch Letterman for the Stupid Pet Tricks, alone.

Maybe a top 10 or two.

Then I grew up.

Posted by: don't look up at February 25, 2013 04:56 PM (LpQbZ)

57
But no schtick can stay funny forever, and at some point, you've made enough Rape jokes.

Rape-rape jokes though, those things are perennial. You can never make enough of those.

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at February 25, 2013 04:56 PM (5iuEW)

58 You aren't a Dave fan unless you watched his daytime show. All 90 minutes of it, every day.

Posted by: blaster at February 25, 2013 04:57 PM (pZDxu)

59 I must be the odd man out cause I don't find any of them remotely funny now or way back when. Once Carson left the scene that was it for my late night comedy you guys.

Posted by: Bosk at February 25, 2013 04:57 PM (n2K+4)

60 Hasn't Letterman admitted to being clinically depressed?

Something like that.
Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 04:54 PM (r2PLg)

I know he's clinically depressing.

Him and the bald ass licking band leader.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 25, 2013 04:57 PM (qyv02)

61 30 Rock.
Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 04:55 PM (VtjlW)


You know, I have never seen 2 seconds of that show because of the asshats that make there living off it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 04:57 PM (l86i3)

62 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 25, 2013 04:54 PM (+z4pE)

Every now and then I go and reread "Michael Bay finally does an art film" about Transformers 2. I think thats pretty funny.

Its sad when the 80's cartoon movie was way more awesome than the entirety of a multi million dollar live movie franchise.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 25, 2013 04:57 PM (t06LC)

63 22
@13



the masturbating bear is the greatest character in the history of late night

Yeah, I think Conan O'Brien's show has been really very funny, but for whatever reason it's not a show that people seek out. When he moved to TNT(?) he had a fairly large audience ... for a while. Eventually though, the masses returned to what they prefer, and it isn't Conan no matter how many times I'm told that all the hip and cool comics are on TeamCOCO.

Posted by: BuckIV at February 25, 2013 04:57 PM (gedHR)

64 Interestingly enough, the only guy on late-night television worth much of a damn these days is Craig Ferguson. And not because he's FUNNY -- though he is quite a witty guy -- but rather because he's the most genuinely gifted conversationalist to host a late-night TV show in my lifetime. He actually manages to make the dumb celebrity interviews entertaining.
Posted by: Jeff B. at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (IykOf)



That's because he doesn't want to be Jay or Dave, he wants to be Johnny and Merv.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 04:57 PM (VtjlW)

65 Letterman used to be funny because he looked like he was having fun. That can be infectious. But now Letterman looks bitter/angry - like he's counting down the minutes and wants to get the hell off that stage.

Posted by: Dang at February 25, 2013 04:57 PM (R18D0)

66 Steve Martin, Pauly Shore , as Funny as the clown in the White House and thats not Funny

Posted by: Clemenza at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (x59Gv)

67 Ace, I feel like you need to flesh this out some more and it is a subject worthy of a movie review treatment. Its probably stuff you have said before in other posts. But it seems like there is larger point about comedy and herd mentaltity that you want to say. Though, maybe this is it.

Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (gmeXX)

68
Truman went to RISD!

Let me guess, you were the guy dating that fat but funny girl from Salve Regina until, after you refused to have sex with her, she jumped to her death.

Truman's clipped more beards than Gillette!

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (r5w1L)

69 54 Brian and Stewie interactions, once they got past the really early season "Stewie as evil genius" stupidity, are the best part of the show

Posted by: JDP at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (60GaT)

70 Interesting perspective. I, et al, proposed the exact same mechanism to explain the cascade and herd theory phenomena of people deciding we didn't need to see any original documents regarding Barack Obama's claimed birth in Hawaii.


For awhile, people weren't sure, then Allahpundit, and others came down completely against looking into this (based on a couple of newspaper notices) and suddenly the entire rightosphere decided there was nothing to see here folks.


Yup, I know exactly what you mean when you talk about a herd mentality.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (bb5+k)

71 "There was a time when Sarah Silverman was, in fact, intensely funny. But no schtick can stay funny forever, and at some point, you've made enough Rape jokes."


I'm ashamed to admit that if I were allowed to shave her, I'd totally do Sarah Silverman.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (yCvxi)

72

There's always been something a little "off" about Letterman.

He refused to get married. Fair enough.
Then, had a child anyway. Whatever.
Then, decided to marry the child's mother? I think... So.

Yet, continued to bang the interns in his little "apartment" above the studios.

He just makes my skin crawl, now.

Posted by: don't look up at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (LpQbZ)

73 @55
And "Idiot Boyfriend"

I almost forgot the Bee Gees talk show skit on SNL.Good Stuff.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (t06LC)

74

Romney's preference cascade never materialized because Obama never became un-cool.

But you already know this.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (/eLjI)

75 Also, I had a beer at the real Drunken Clam, which is really called the Drunken Clam.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (WgEZw)

76 Sarah Silverman was never funny.


Her and Chelsea Handler are funny in the sense of watching good looking women act like guys and be raunchy. If either one of them were even remotely less attractive, they would not be successful at all. I'm not saying either one is super-hot, just hot enough to make it work. You get a less attractive comedian doing the same material and it would never work.

For whatever reason, I find very few women comedians funny. Even the ones I find that can be funny, usually can't be funny enough to fill up an hour show. they have a few good bits. I've never seen a female comedian that had me roaring with laughter.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (sOx93)

77 30 Rock.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 04:55 PM (VtjlW)

I watched it when I was desperate for crap to distract me from working out. About 15 shows.

Wow....it really sucked.

And you owe me royalties for that nic.

Chaotic Evil Hobbit is mine, and has been since a drunken D and D game in 1982. And don't think you are going to get out of paying young lady!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (GsoHv)

78 42
I remember when I stopped watching Family Guy. They did a bit where they
literally displayed Bush as a chimp. That was it. Bush was a chimp in a
tree, end of joke. I actually don't have a problem with anybody making
fun of any president but please at least be a little funny.

Did anyone catch his Markey Mark movie? Was that actually funny?



I stopped watching after the "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" music and dance number.

Posted by: BuckIV at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (gedHR)

79 I will always LMAO at Jonathan Winters..that guy was the Emperor of Funny..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (x59Gv)

80 market-ticker.org has declared Tickercon 1.

Which means, for those of you unfamiliar with his analysis:

Time's up.


Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 04:47 PM (hO9ad)

Could you elaborate? Are you referring to financial Armageddon?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (bb5+k)

81 I'm ashamed to admit that if I were allowed to shave her, I'd totally do Sarah Silverman.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (yCvxi)


Yeah, me too. But only one of us would walk out of the woods.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (l86i3)

82 30 Rock.

It is overhyped, no argument there. But their lowest-rated episodes draw 3-4 times as many viewers as Girls

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (/kI1Q)

83 It's the Herd Mentality, not that there's much "mentality" to any of it.

It's like, cool, Daddy-O. All the hep cats are digging it. Don't be square.

Seriously guys.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (+z4pE)

84 Letterman is a condescending asshole that became more gaping as the years progressed.

Was never a fan. Watched Leno cuz i live in the People's Republic of California and laughed at the retards on jay walking.

Conan was funny, had weird guests, did weird shit, and got away with more.

Still think Conan is tops, but I havent watched since they took away my TV privileges

Posted by: Gandalf at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (OqeDl)

85 Radish, burn the non Fanily Guy witch!

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (Tz4Vo)

86 Haha no i didn't go but my fat girlfriend did, so I was there a lot. Doing art is a full time job. But getting paid for doing art is impossible.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (WgEZw)

87 I followed Letterman from when he first got his start. Because I am from Indianapolis, I saw him as a weatherman on the local channel and even called in once to his radio talk show.

In those days, he had a funny sense of the absurdity of everyday like.

I was so happy for him when he got the network daytime show, which actually was pretty funny but unsuitable for the daytime audience. When he followed Carson I was also happy for him and I used to stay up and watch him.

But you guys are right. When he moved to CBS he became bitter and un-funny. It's sad, because he had so many fans here in Indy and I don't think people even watch him much in his home town. I don't.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (GoIUi)

88 >>>For awhile, people weren't sure, then Allahpundit, and others came down
completely against looking into this (based on a couple of newspaper
notices) and suddenly the entire rightosphere decided there was nothing
to see here folks.


No, it's because people far smarter than you knew it was crackpot bullshit AND recognized a sure-fire political loser issue when they saw one. You, however, with your superior powers of doggedness, still keep chewin' on that bone.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (IykOf)

89
Another Guy...

Andrew Dice Clay - In the late 1980's, there was nobody funnier.

Until he wasn't anymore.

Posted by: Gunslinger at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (4S7hN)

90 I had a friend from high school who used to LOVE Letterman in college. He and his buddies would tune-in especially for "Top Ten Night" (this was before it was a nightly feature) which was, I admit, pretty damn funny. Mind you, this was in the '80s when Letterman was the darling of the "hip" college crowd, which tended toward his highly sarcastic humor. And he could be witty, and his writers did produce some pretty a musing things here and there, but yes -- Letterman's gotten stale and humorless over the years with age.

Posted by: Norman Bean at February 25, 2013 05:00 PM (sTS/8)

91 Letterman might have been funny before he lost the Tonight show spot to Leno. Then his inner angry old man took over and he's been calling it in ever since.

But then so's Leno.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 25, 2013 05:01 PM (qyv02)

92 Conan O'Brien used to be the REAL genius of
late-night comedy. Then, the second he took over Jay Leno's slot, it all
went irrevocably downhill.

Serious You Guys, go back and try to find clips of the late '90s-to-mid-'00s Late Night With Conan O'Brien. That was subversively weird stuff.



Posted by: Jeff B. at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM

Conan was brilliant in the late 90s and his signature bits were original and edgy.

When Andy Richter left the show, Conan somehow lost it because I think Andy might have been kind of a quality control guy to tell him when something wasn't working

Most of his stuff after Andy left was just the same shit over and over, nothing new and the edge had worn off.

He's never gotten it back, even when Andy returned

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2013 05:01 PM (mCvL4)

93 THIS:

"Her and Chelsea Handler are funny in the sense of watching good looking women act like guys and be raunchy. If either one of them were even remotely less attractive, they would not be successful at all."

Posted by: Gandalf at February 25, 2013 05:01 PM (OqeDl)

94 I used to love love Letterman. I was watching way before I should have been. I had a 9pm bedtime and I'd stay up for the show, sneak to tv set, and play it as low as I could so I wouldn't get busted. I think he took getting passed up by Leno really hard. He's just an angry guy who's phoning it in now. At least he has interns and his love shack still.

Posted by: L, elle at February 25, 2013 05:01 PM (0PiQ4)

95 I think David Letterman used to be hilariously funny. Then, I think he slowly started to lose the people close to him that helped modulate his humor. Chris (dammit what's his name the son of Bob or Ray), Hal Gurnee, Margo (his girlfriend/show writer), Larry Bud Melman, his old announcer, PeeWee Herman, (even JAy Leno when he used to come on all the time).

No one left to tune him. And he became a bitter parody of himself.

Posted by: Tex's Assaultin' Batteries at February 25, 2013 05:01 PM (wtvvX)

96 I'm ashamed to admit that if I were allowed to shave her, I'd totally do Sarah Silverman.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (yCvxi)

Never be ashamed of objectifying the left, whether it is intellectual vapidity or sexual attractiveness, it is fine.

And....bourbon and a ball gag will make it a pleasurable evening.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:01 PM (GsoHv)

97 Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (sOx93)

Oh, Chelsea Handler? I only wish midevil tower of londen activities on that poor excuse for a human being.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:01 PM (l86i3)

98

Craig Ferguson

Yeah, I like him, too, but do not watch any late night tv anymore.

I used to like Jimmy Kimmel, but when I found out his gf was Sarah Silverman I gave up on that.

She's a disease.

Posted by: don't look up at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (LpQbZ)

99

There was a time when Sarah Silverman was, in fact, intensely funny.





I'm going to have to throw a flag for a blog policy penalty. Any
post with a reference to Sarah Silverman must include the Way of the Gun
clip.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (VtjlW)








Someone needs to make an animated gif of the best 2 seconds of that scene. I could watch that all day long.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (TIIx5)

100 Romney's preference cascade never materialized because Obama never became un-cool.

I can fix that.

Posted by: DJIA 2000 at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (hO9ad)

101 I didn't even know who he was until I heard on Friday he was hosting the Oscars. I had heard of Ted and Family Guy. I have never watched either one. The foul mouth teddy bear movie seemed dumb and done. Seth Rogan was replaced with a stuffed animal. Family Guy, from ads, seemed to be a copy of the Simpsons.

My son informed me that Ted cost 50 million to make and made over 500 million. So what do I know. Apparently people like him.

Posted by: Long Island at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (hl8SI)

102 Still I think the song from Family Guy that goes "you have AIDS, not HIV, but full blown AIDS" was pretty funny.

Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (gmeXX)

103 Chaotic Evil Hobbit is mine, and has been since a drunken D and D game in 1982. And don't think you are going to get out of paying young lady!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 04:59 PM (GsoHv)



Cupcakes? *offers*


Also, I'm not ripping it off, it's an homage. Because I'm an artiste.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (VtjlW)

104 I am proud to say that I have always loathed Letterman and Leno. Obama has never been funny--Richard Pryor was funny with some of the same stuff for about 10 minutes until he blew himself up with the cocaine pipe. Chris Rock has never been funny either--just really ugly racism dressed up in the thin rags of poking fun at white folks--same thing with George Lopez--same racist jokes just told from a Mexican point of view. Humor is very hard to do without crossing a line to being unfunny in a heartbeat. Johnny Carson was a master and even he occasionally found himself out there floundering without a giggle to be had.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (kXoT0)

105 Yeah, maybe Letterman was funny a couple decades ago. Now? It's all leftist humor directed at leftists.

That man needs a *serious* stalker to put him out of his misery. Slowly, but with precision and maybe some electrical cables, ball clamps, and maybe a carbon monoxide producing generator in a cramped room. Because that shits funny, right Dave?

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (feFL6)

106 Posted by: Gandalf at February 25, 2013 05:01 PM (OqeDl)

Dude....Chelsea Handler is a guy.

http://tinyurl.com/b9ccdu4

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (GsoHv)

107 96 CBD,

Natalie Portman is why ball gags were invented...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (Tz4Vo)

108 And yes, "Family Guy" blows.

Posted by: Norman Bean at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (sTS/8)

109 Serious you guys, three quarters of public life is just posing. Going with the crowd. Caught by contagion.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:03 PM (QupBk)

110 72

There's always been something a little "off" about Letterman.

He refused to get married. Fair enough.
Then, had a child anyway. Whatever.
Then, decided to marry the child's mother? I think... So.

Yet, continued to bang the interns in his little "apartment" above the studios.

He just makes my skin crawl, now.
Posted by: don't look up at February 25, 2013 04:58 PM (LpQbZ)

__________________

Arrogance. Narcissism.

A belief that he's --special.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 05:03 PM (r2PLg)

111 Sarah Silverman was never funny.

I though she was funny but I was completely aware at the time that she would only be funny for approximately 12 days.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2013 05:03 PM (KXm42)

112 Conan O'Brien used to be the REAL genius of
late-night comedy.


True, intelligent humor. But, he overused the staring in the camera and certain expressions he used to mock or do /sarc.

Posted by: don't look up at February 25, 2013 05:03 PM (LpQbZ)

113 Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (VtjlW)

Cupcakes? With filling AND frosting?

Deal.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:04 PM (GsoHv)

114
Steve Allen and Johnny Carson funny.

Posted by: YIKES! at February 25, 2013 05:04 PM (mETGQ)

115
Chris TheGuyFromCabinBoy?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 25, 2013 05:04 PM (FC8Yl)

116 Also, I had a beer at the real Drunken Clam, which is really called the Drunken Clam.

OK. That's hot.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 25, 2013 05:04 PM (/kI1Q)

117 Funny was the Grey Poupon commercial:

http://tinyurl.com/adfv7mp

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 25, 2013 05:04 PM (6H6o8)

118 He is producing a new version of COSMOS, for Fox/National Geographic.
So, eh.

Give me Mac, Charlie, Dennis, Dee, Frank, the Waitress, the McPoyles, the Lawyer, and Kitten Mittens any day over Family Guy.

Posted by: CAC at February 25, 2013 05:04 PM (6v/2T)

119 OT, FWIW

market-ticker.org has declared Tickercon 1.


Whoa! WTF?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (GFM2b)

120
Natalie Portman is why ball gags were invented...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (Tz4Vo)

And anal lube.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (l86i3)

121 Chris TheGuyFromCabinBoy?

Funny. And a funny writer.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (QupBk)

122
Letterman stopped being funny about the same time as Mooch started pretending to be a man to attract Baracky.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (p/cQy)

123 The Danica Patrick and Ronda Rousey hype from this weekend is instructive. The media traditionally hates and/or ignores NASCAR and MMA. But now that two female starts (that they created) are competing, suddenly these sports are the coolest, SERIOUS YOU GUYS must-watch events ever.

The Rousey hype is particularly disgusting. Women's MMA has been around for at least 5 years, first with Strikeforce and now with Invicta. If you're jonesing for the opportunity to see two women punch each other in the face, it's readily available.

Thing is, most people DON'T want to see that. They think MMA generally is brutal, bloody and overly violent, much less women's MMA.

But suddenly the propaganda machine was telling everyone that it was AWESOME!!!!!

Cause GIRLZZZZ IN TEH UFC!!!!

HISTORICAL!!!!!

I actually saw Facebook posts where women were saying they were gonna watch the Daytona 500 even though they didn't like car racing because of Danica Patrick.

The fuck? You don't like this sport, but will watch if a woman competes? Why? It's the same sport--the one you don't like, remember?

But hype the "historical" angle and they flock to you.

Kinda like what happened in 2008.


Posted by: Warden at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (HzhBE)

124 I like Family Guy. I hate that goddam dog though.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (KXm42)

125 7
OT, FWIW

market-ticker.org has declared Tickercon 1.

Which means, for those of you unfamiliar with his analysis:

Time's up.


Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 04:47 PM (hO9ad)

Uh, should I be warming up some hot and spicy panic now?

Posted by: joncelli at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (RD7QR)

126 Not a Seth McFarlane fan, but I get how people can like his stuff.


With serious overexposure comes a huge decline in quality. Take Quentin Tarantino, for example. His first couple of gigs were great - True Romance, Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs. On the success of those, he got the money to indulge every stupid, childish whim that entered his head, with no one to point out to him that he was making the same fucking movie over and over and that they actually quite sucked donkey balls.

Now actors aren't attracted to a Tarantino film, they're attracted to Tarantino himself, who obviously is tapped out of the magic which made his dialogue so snappy and characters so entertaining at the beginning of his career.

Now they're all The Bride. BORING.

That's how I see this McFarlane cat's career playing out.

At least he's not running around wearing a Kangol hat backwards, like Quentin's wannabe self. Fucking butt-dart.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (A+odv)

127 We may need a clean-up in aisle 105.

Posted by: Armando at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (5iuEW)

128 Applauding when the sign lights up.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:06 PM (QupBk)

129 Really? I've heard mixed reviews of Macfarlane's performance. The best I've heard was a meh. A woman (liberal mind you) I talked to this morning described it as the most sexist homophobic thing she's ever seen. Macfarlane seems to do best when he goes scorch earth, the moment he over thinks it it's over.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 25, 2013 05:06 PM (NzBQO)

130 I am terrified that IASIP will go down the suck route given enough time.

But even then, "the implication" is easily funnier than anything scripted for TV in the last decade.

Posted by: CAC at February 25, 2013 05:06 PM (6v/2T)

131

yeah, toby, but what's his frikkin name??

Posted by: soothsayer at February 25, 2013 05:07 PM (yhYn1)

132 I used to think Letterman was funny right around the time he was dropping random shit off that 5 story tower...whenever that was.


Last time I laughed while watching Letterman clip was when he had Rickles on after Denzel Washington. I guess it's because Don had you laughing AT Dave.


Tough to find that clip anymore, but Rickles fucking killed on that one.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 05:07 PM (yCvxi)

133 I think it's a bit reaching. I like Letterman. I prefer'd him over Leno and the guy that quit the Daily Show for his own gig. I'd watch Letterman over Leno if I was watching TV late at night.

But I never, ever, once video taped it. Taping a show was never a habit, even for ones I really liked.

What this says to me/the point is, that back in my TV watching days if Letterman came on an earlier hour I'd watch him more because it air'd at a convenient time.

When I was a kid Taxi played at Nick at Night 30 minutes after my bed time. If mom and dad let me stay up, I watched Taxi. Loved that show. Never taped it.

When Nick and Night started airing it earlier, I watched it more often.

I think this is more or less a plain and simple situation. Letterman comes on earlier... more people watch it.

Posted by: palooka at February 25, 2013 05:07 PM (YB4Ku)

134

The more you listen to Rush (when he's really on his game), the more you realize he has true insight and wisdom regarding liberals.

Even if you think he's so far off, he proves himself right in so many instances.

It's a strange thing.

Posted by: beach at February 25, 2013 05:07 PM (LpQbZ)

135 Chris Elliot

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:07 PM (QupBk)

136 The fuck? You don't like this sport, but will watch if a woman competes?

Yeahhhh...no. No, they won't.

Posted by: WNBA at February 25, 2013 05:08 PM (/kI1Q)

137
My son informed me that Ted cost 50 million to make and made over 500 million. So what do I know. Apparently people like him.


Posted by: Long Island at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (hl8SI)

Same group of people who like Obama; Ignorant childish type people. (mostly)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 05:08 PM (bb5+k)

138 noticed some interesting ads last nite:
chik fil a !!! at the oscars?
samsung ads making fun of d-bag unicorn hipsters

Posted by: faris at February 25, 2013 05:08 PM (OaHHI)

139 Chris Elliot had a series of his own that I thought was humorous. I think it lasted half a season so my tastes are not universal.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:09 PM (QupBk)

140 David letterman and Sarah Silverman are not, and never have been, funny.I only know the Cartoon Voice as a cartoon voice.

Posted by: Let Hollywood Burn at February 25, 2013 05:09 PM (o7mfU)

141 I never thought Sarah Silverman was funny, but she never entered my mind as a tangible actress (Sarah Silverman's new movie vs that new movie that Sarah Silverman is in, if that makes sense).

I dunno. People acting like they're retarded never did it for me in any capacity. Took me years to come around to Will Ferrel.

Posted by: palooka at February 25, 2013 05:09 PM (YB4Ku)

142 Nascar couldn't have been pleased that the first race with Danica produced an extremely boring race.

Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:09 PM (gmeXX)

143 Same group of people who like Obama; Ignorant childish type people. (mostly)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 05:08 PM (bb5+k)

Dick jokes still rule.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:09 PM (l86i3)

144 Nascar couldn't have been pleased that the first race with Danica produced an extremely boring race.

Yeah, I think people were tuning in to see if she would wipe out half the field on the last two laps.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:10 PM (QupBk)

145 CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:04 PM (GsoHv)

I'd have a food taster if I was you.

Just sayin', you guys.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 25, 2013 05:10 PM (qyv02)

146 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (A+odv)

The more control Tarantino has over a movie, the worse it is.

True Romance was his best movie, and he only wrote it.

And...he is the ugliest, stupidest director in Hollywood, and that includes Tim Burton.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:10 PM (GsoHv)

147
yes that's it

Eliot

Posted by: soothsayer at February 25, 2013 05:10 PM (vyPsz)

148
>Same group of people who like Obama; Ignorant childish type people. (mostly)

I've noticed that most folks of all walks of life enjoyed Ted.

My dad, for one. Who voted for Carter over the Gip because he didn't want no faggoty actor to take the place of a good Christian man.

Posted by: palooka at February 25, 2013 05:11 PM (YB4Ku)

149 Nascar couldn't have been pleased that the first race with Danica produced an extremely boring race.
Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:09 PM (gmeXX)

I think if it were baseball, they would call it a pitchers duel. However, I found it exciting. But I am odd.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:11 PM (l86i3)

150 I am the Gold Standard of Funny. Right ace?

Posted by: Carrot Top at February 25, 2013 05:11 PM (jucos)

151 Bob's Burgers is very funny, especially if you watched Home Movies.

Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2013 05:11 PM (wsGWu)

152 Bob's Burgers is very funny, especially if you watched Home Movies.
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2013 05:11 PM (wsGWu)
and Dr Katz

Posted by: CAC at February 25, 2013 05:12 PM (6v/2T)

153 And...he is the ugliest, stupidest director in Hollywood, and that includes Tim Burton.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:10 PM

____________________

Stupidest?

Ben Affleck.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 05:12 PM (r2PLg)

154 O/T, but I am at work & just read SCOAMF was charging $500,000 for access @ The White House. It is not his, it belongs to citizens of The US. This has to be an impeachable offense!

Posted by: CarolT at February 25, 2013 05:12 PM (g2ldK)

155 148 cool anecdote bro

Posted by: JDP at February 25, 2013 05:12 PM (60GaT)

156 And to show how poorly I remember things, Chris Elliot's show Get A Life ran 3 seasons, according to IMDB.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:12 PM (QupBk)

157 The funniest thing Sarah Silverman ever did was get called a c--- and get punched in the face. Speaking of that scene, what does "fuck start her head" even mean?

Posted by: DanInMN at February 25, 2013 05:13 PM (XqeyF)

158 The last time Letterman was funny was when he threw a watermellon out of a 6th story window. Wait, that wasn't funny. Never mind.

Posted by: Ronster at February 25, 2013 05:13 PM (dBayF)

159 >>>Chris Elliot had a series of his own that I thought was humorous. I
think it lasted half a season so my tastes are not universal.


It was called Get A Life and it was near-genius. Starred Elliot as a man-child with a paper-route living at home with his parents, and Jonathan Winters (a godfather of TV comedy) as his father.

I was just a kid when it was on, and I knew even then that 1.) it was hilarious; 2.) it would get cancelled because it was just too weird. My dad was the one who turned me onto it, he was a big fan of Chris Elliott and Jonathan Winters.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 25, 2013 05:13 PM (IykOf)

160 And...he is the ugliest, stupidest director in Hollywood, and that includes Tim Burton.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:10 PM

I'm fed up with theese woryld.

Posted by: Tommy Wissau at February 25, 2013 05:13 PM (6v/2T)

161 i liked Ted

i'll just use the "it's a generational thing" excuse

Posted by: JDP at February 25, 2013 05:13 PM (60GaT)

162 My dad, for one. Who voted for Carter over the Gip because he didn't want no faggoty actor to take the place of a good Christian man.

The turd doesn't fall far from the horse's ass.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:13 PM (QupBk)

163 #123 The last sentence a million times.

Posted by: vivi at February 25, 2013 05:14 PM (JKza/)

164 Could you elaborate? Are you referring to financial Armageddon?

He's elaborating on Blogtalk, but I want to hear it from the beginning, so I'm going to wait for the live broadcast to finish and wait for the recording to become available. Anyone who's been following him can pretty well fill in the blanks, though.

Europe was never fixed. Neither were we.

Money printing could buy a little time to discuss and address the debt issue, not solve it. But buying time makes the immediacy of the problem appear to recede, so no one made any attempt to deal with it ("austerity" in europe-mild spending cuts and tax hikes to make sure the banksters got theirs isn't a fix in the economic sense). And while a government can print money into infinity producing unbounded inflation, the central bank scam relies on loaning money into existence, which means they have to be choosey about where they stuff the cash, or capital losses blow them up. Once they lose the will to pump (which was indicated by the recently released FOMC minute) everything must revert to a more reality-based level. Which you may recall was around Dow 6000 before 4 years of market sabotage.

The trigger today seems to be the elections in Italy not going the banksters' way, and the resulting sell off (Dow -200, today).


Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 05:14 PM (hO9ad)

165 Stupidest?


Ben Affleck.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 05:12 PM (r2PLg)

Let me think about that one.

Has Matt Damon directed?

But....I'll still go with Tarantino. Have you ever heard him interviewed?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:14 PM (GsoHv)

166 Dick jokes and farts.

ALWAYS. FUNNY.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 25, 2013 05:14 PM (qyv02)

167 I remember when Fox first attempted to sell Family Guy. They piggy-backed it on The Simpsons. They advertised the hell out of it during The Simpsons episodes and it ran right after them. It sucked and it flopped.

Then, somehow, inexplicably, it began to run again some time later. And slowly but surely it began to become "popular".

I always thought it was a matter of manufactured "popularity" through sheer repetitive exposure. Most of it was nothing more than a rip-off of old Simpson shticks. BTW, Trey Parker and Matt Stone (The South Park boys) called this out long ago.

Posted by: Strife at February 25, 2013 05:14 PM (z3Lez)

168

OT

And I remain convinced the longest lasting legacy of Barack Obama is going to be a new generation of leaders of the Republican Party who stand for liberty."

ted cruz

Posted by: beach at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (LpQbZ)

169
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 05:08 PM (bb5+k)



Dick jokes still rule.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy
Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:09 PM (l86i3)

Bill Cosby, Red Skelton, Bob Hope, et al, have made commentary to the effect that if you have skill, you don't need to turn to potty humor.

I think a lot of more contemporary comedians would be lost if they couldn't turn to shock/profane style jokes.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (bb5+k)

170
"I'm going to have to throw a flag for a blog policy penalty. Any
post with a reference to Sarah Silverman must include the Way of the Gun
clip."

"Shut that cunt's mouth or I'll come over there and fuckstart her head!"

I'll bet SS hears that in real life 10-12 times a week. Nasty, unfunny bitch.

Posted by: Jaws at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (4I3Uo)

171 I never thought Sarah Silverman was funny, but she never entered my mind as a tangible actress

She played second fiddle on broadcast TV to a puppet.

That's not exactly the sign of a brilliant career.

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (GBXon)

172
But....I'll still go with Tarantino. Have you ever heard him interviewed?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:14 PM (GsoHv)
At least he never grew arugula on his pizza.

Posted by: CAC at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (6v/2T)

173 "Johnny Carson was a master and even he occasionally found himself out there floundering without a giggle to be had.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (kXoT0)"



Oh man, NOBODY floundered like Carson. I used to LOVE it when he told a stinker. That guy could make a bad joke the high point of his monologue.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (yCvxi)

174 Didn't South Park already figure out that Family Guy is written by manatees using random word balls? Not that South Park is hugely better but they don't really take themselves seriously.

Posted by: Drew in MO at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (cGlgB)

175 I actually saw Facebook posts where women were saying they were gonna watch the Daytona 500 even though they didn't like car racing because of Danica Patrick.

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My opinion on Patrick is that she's cute but WAY overhyped due to be one of the few women in the field.

She is somewhat competitive but gets a LOT of hype for a woman whose best finish is 4th and has an average finish in the late 20s / early 30s.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (e0xKF)

176 Seth who?

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at February 25, 2013 05:16 PM (EZl54)

177 OSP - Really, you liked the race? Do most Nascar races have that little passing? It just seemed like there was very little of it. Maybe they just didn't show it when it happened. The only race I really watch is the Indy 500, which typically has a lot more passing. I tuned in because of Danica, and just thought it was a boring race.

Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:16 PM (gmeXX)

178
"Because while people will watch a show for a while to be part of the It's Popular crowd, ultimately they'll find it to be too much of a labor and will start doing what they actually prefer."
I've read this twice over and just realized I was substituting "White", as in:
"Because White People will watch a show..."
Then I realized I was OK with that.

Posted by: Jess1 at February 25, 2013 05:16 PM (lbiWb)

179 Has Matt Damon directed?

Hopefully not--but I'm sure that recent events might motivate him.

But....I'll still go with Tarantino. Have you ever heard him interviewed?

No--but really less IQ points than Ben Affleck?

yikes.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 05:17 PM (r2PLg)

180 Short track is more fun to watch IMO. Rubbin' is racin'.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:17 PM (QupBk)

181 Bob's Burgers is very, very funny--waiting for the second season to be released on DVD. The executive producer produced King of the Hill.

Posted by: WNBA at February 25, 2013 05:17 PM (/kI1Q)

182 Johnny Carson was a master and even he occasionally found himself out there floundering without a giggle to be had.


Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 25, 2013 05:02 PM (kXoT0)






And he had a deft way of turning comedy death into laughs with a little self-deprecating humor, to the point where it became something of a Tonight Show meme.

Also, Carson could always save a shitty show by whispering to his producers "call Rickles, tell him to get his ass over here".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 25, 2013 05:17 PM (TIIx5)

183

OT again

This really is too awesome for words.

h/t breitbar

At the beginning of the year, President Barack Obama's new 501(c)4 political nonprofit, Organizing For Action, was launched with all the usual bells and whistles. But the tech wizards at OFA forgot one important rule in today's Internet world: Register all the iterations of your website address before someone else does.

Now Obama's team is filing complaints against the folks smart enough to get the addresses before he did.

As Obama's OFA made its debut, no one in his purportedly Internet-savvy campaign had obtained the corresponding .com, .net, .org or .us sites, nor did OFA register other names that are close to its official one, as is the sensible practice. In the case of the .net address, a fellow named Derek Bovard had already registered the .net address by the time Obama's team took notice.

Bovard has routed his new site to the homepage of the National Rifle Association.

So, whenever anyone goes to www.organizingforaction.net they end up seeing the homepage of the NRA.

Posted by: beach at February 25, 2013 05:17 PM (LpQbZ)

184 Daytona 500 ratings were the highest since 2006, 30% increase from last year.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 25, 2013 05:17 PM (NzBQO)

185 Gah. Off irrelevant sock.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at February 25, 2013 05:17 PM (/kI1Q)

186 Who the hell is Seth McFarlane? I wouldn't know him if I saw him on the street. And I certainly wouldn't know him from watching the Oscars, because you couldn't pay me to watch that crap.

Okay. if you gave me a few hundred dollars I'd get a bottle of cheap rum, some juice, and suck it up in order to get the money. Then after Ms Obama showed her face, I'd demand even more money as hazard pay.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 25, 2013 05:18 PM (tAOpG)

187 167 post-cancellation Family Guy is really nothing like The Simpsons, for better or worse. way more cynical.

South Park got them on the random joke generator thing but ironically the opposite is what became that show's weakness -- taking one joke, relating it to a "topical" event, and beating it into the ground

Posted by: JDP at February 25, 2013 05:18 PM (60GaT)

188 29--- "...the decline began earlier; for the year (or whatever) when he was still at NBC, but knew he wasn't getting the Tonight show gig, he was just cranky and bitter and not very funny at all."

Posted by: ace at February 25, 2013 04:52 PM (LCRYB)
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That's the way I remember it too. His TONE changed overnight after the Tonight Show rejection but long before he got political.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 25, 2013 05:18 PM (C8mVl)

189 Macfarlane's biggest problem is he really thinks he is Brian and Stewie. The pretensious show-business-obsessed woman-hating closet gay (Stewie) and the vapid suburbanite (Brian).
He's done good work, but damn, dude, know when to sit back, camp out on what you made, and let your act refresh. I saw Andrew Dice Clay live a few months ago, and he killed it. All new shit, delivered in a familiar style. Why? He'd been out of sight for years.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 25, 2013 05:18 PM (jCQ+I)

190 Oh man, NOBODY floundered like Carson. I used to LOVE it when he told a stinker. That guy could make a bad joke the high point of his monologue.

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It's blasphemy to put anyone in Carson's league, but Norm MacDonald is wonderful at telling bad jokes that bomb thanks to his delivery and banter.

Example-

"Statistically, men are far more likely to have a car crash than a woman. I should note, though, that the statistics don't add to 100% because the math was done by a woman."

*boos*

"I should note that this joke was written by a woman."

*cheers*

"I'm just kidding... we don't hire women."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 25, 2013 05:18 PM (e0xKF)

191 It all depends on if the 'cool kids' are talking about it...

If they are, then you need to watch it so you can get the inside jokes they then tell..... if not? its safe to leave it alone...

Same thing with Jon Stewart.... got a business compatriot who swears by the guy... who spouts his lines... tapes his show.... and used to endlessly talk about his 'points'... right up until I started showing him the Facts about what he was saying.... Now to him Stewart is still cool... but he does not talk to ME about it....

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 25, 2013 05:18 PM (lZBBB)

192 When you need to have The Shat come out and help you with your opening bit, that's a sign that perhaps you're not the best choice for host duties.

Posted by: Norman Bean at February 25, 2013 05:18 PM (sTS/8)

193
Letterman started out funny, in his standup routines.
He was funny when he was filling in for Johnny Carson.

But over time...he's become tired and snarky.
And not funny.

Funniest thing I've seen in a long while....Craig Ferguson's 1 hour special, on EPIX.
'Does This Need To Be Said' -- is the name of it.

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (eyJSG)

194 Most people are nothing more than trained circus animals doing exactly what the ringmasters - aka the media and its celebrities - tell them to do and liking who they tell them to like.

Personally, I don't do circuses.

Posted by: LGoPs at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (4x8W0)

195 @167

Adult Swim brought it back.

The early seasons were pretty funny. I remember a buddy and I were drinking one night when I was in college (after it was cancelled) We ended up driving around to different Best Buys in Houston to buy the seasons on dvd.
I guess we could have gone to a club and tried to get laid, but where is the fun in that?

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (t06LC)

196 Posted by: CAC at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (6v/2T)

I believe that I have redeemed myself.

Please direct your attention to the photograph at: http://minx.cc/?post=337814

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (GsoHv)

197 Short track is more fun to watch IMO. Rubbin' is racin'.>>

The figure eight race/demos are and only topped by the ones where the pull old campers.

(I might be a redneck)

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (81UWZ)

198 I think Seth did a good job. Not all of the jokes were good, but that's always been the case.
Hosting the Oscars is a no win situation for anyone who is crazy enough to try. No matter what you do on stage, you're still going to get trashed the next day.
And if you think MacFarlane was the worst host ever, you obviously didn't see the James Franco/Anne Hathaway disaster in 2011.

Posted by: Hawk at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (2dYnc)

199 Letterman's still alive?

huh

(I usually leave the room when the 1080p commie brainscrubber is switched on. )

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (EZl54)

200 You know what you say to a woman with two black eyes? Nothing, you already told her twice.

Posted by: The Comedy Stylings of Seth McFarlane at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (dSE0q)

201 married with children...not funny.


Posted by: rev dr e buzz at February 25, 2013 04:44 PM (R0PwH)


I think the humor depends on how closely you can see yourself, in Al.... or whether or not you are a member of NO'MAAM or not...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (lZBBB)

202 I never thought Sarah Silverman was funny, but she never entered my mind as a tangible actress

She played second fiddle on broadcast TV to a puppet.

That's not exactly the sign of a brilliant career.
Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 25, 2013 05:15 PM (GBXon)
===================================
Fuck you dude.

Posted by: Shari Lewis and Wayland FLowers at February 25, 2013 05:20 PM (jucos)

203 Loved Letterman in the 80's and (early?) 90's., but losing out to Leno made his heart three sizes too small, or something. A bitter, bitter man who's on the air just to spite you.

Posted by: t-bird at February 25, 2013 05:20 PM (FcR7P)

204 Who the hell is Seth McFarlane? I wouldn't know him if I saw him on the street. And I certainly wouldn't know him from watching the Oscars, because you couldn't pay me to watch that crap.

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The douchebag who nearly got smeared across the Twin Towers, missing his flight due to a hangover, after making jokes about airport security and Osama Bin Laden in an episode months earlier.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 25, 2013 05:20 PM (e0xKF)

205 Personally, I don't do circuses.

Posted by: LGoPs at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (4x8W0)

How about bachelor parties?

Wait....what?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:20 PM (GsoHv)

206 OSP - Really, you liked the race? Do most Nascar races have that little passing? It just seemed like there was very little of it. Maybe they just didn't show it when it happened. The only race I really watch is the Indy 500, which typically has a lot more passing. I tuned in because of Danica, and just thought it was a boring race.
Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:16 PM (gmeXX)

I spent quite a few years driving late model dirt cars on high bank bull rings in the midwest. I get the technology, strategy and the "it aint as easy as it looks" part. Danica is a rookie. What she did for little girls everywhere was the same thing Sally Ride did. A couple thousand of our daughters went WTF, I can do that, Daddy, buy me a go-cart.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:21 PM (l86i3)

207 Not all of the jokes were good, but that's always been the case.

And why is that? I would think that the host has months to polish their jokes and yet they often fall flat. Maybe they are in love with them and can't let them go even if people tell them they are lame.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:21 PM (QupBk)

208 The trigger today seems to be the elections in Italy not going the banksters' way, and the resulting sell off (Dow -200, today).


They will try to kick the can down the road again, only to find out it's cement filled.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2013 05:21 PM (GFM2b)

209 192 When you need to have The Shat come out and help you with your opening bit, that's a sign that perhaps you're not the best choice for host duties.
Posted by: Norman Bean at February 25, 2013 05:18 PM (sTS/

________________

According to Seth MacFarlane's wiki he was very "qualified for the gig.

MacFarlane is a supporter of the United States Democratic Party.[43] He has donated over $200,000 to various Democratic congressional committees and to the 2008 presidential campaign of then-U.S. Senator Barack Obama.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 05:21 PM (r2PLg)

210 When you need to have The Shat come out and help you with your opening bit, that's a sign that perhaps you're not the best choice for host duties.

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I think this is the Oscars' admission that Steve Martin and Billy Crystal have both said "I'm done with this shit" and that there's no way they'll let Chris Rock host again.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 25, 2013 05:21 PM (e0xKF)

211 Letterman is still doing the same faces, gestures, dumb guy voice, etc that weren't funny 25 years ago.
Now that they've been repeated 396,815 times they're beat your head against the wall annoying.

And Jon Stewart's doing the same thing night after night with the same smirks he's always used. Someone needs to tell these comedic geniuses that anything becomes boring as shit after numerous repetitions.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 25, 2013 05:21 PM (tAOpG)

212 Speaking of Tarantino, I must be the only person who doesn't like Reservoir Dogs. I don't generally put much thought into movies because I just go for simple entertainment, but dear God the over-acting.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 05:22 PM (yCvxi)

213 Who the hell is Seth McFarlane?

He was Peter Brady, but now he does cartoon voices.

Posted by: t-bird at February 25, 2013 05:22 PM (FcR7P)

214 There was a time when Sarah Silverman was, in fact, intensely funny.






What nano-second was that?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2013 05:22 PM (1Jaio)

215 And I certainly wouldn't know him from watching the Oscars, because you couldn't pay me to watch that crap.

*deadpan* You're the reason we lose elections, you know.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at February 25, 2013 05:23 PM (/kI1Q)

216 OSP - you sound like you know Nascar, which I really don't. I watch from time to time, but usually it is simply on in the background. I just assumed there was a lot more passing, but this race didn't seem to have much. Is that normal for Daytona, or was it simply one of those races?

Either way, I'm sure Danica will generate ratings. She really showed her inexperience at the end there.

Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:23 PM (gmeXX)

217 i liked Ted

i'll just use the "it's a generational thing" excuse


Posted by: JDP at February 25, 2013 05:13 PM (60GaT)


To be fair, I haven't seen it, and probably shouldn't judge it based solely on the fact that Most of Seth McFarlane's humor is childish defecation humor. I recall when he portrayed the supporters of McCain/Palin as Nazis. Yeah, that was really funny Seth.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 05:23 PM (bb5+k)

218 Seth McFarlane's routine last night was not about the movies, it was all about Seth McFarlane. In fact the opening monologue was about him and his performance. And why did we need to hear Norah Jones singing the song from "Ted" written by....Seth McFarlane. And the producers of the Oscars this year were the producers who brought forth....Hairspray, and Chicago, and aplay with Kristen Chenoworth, who sang a song written by...Seth McFarlane and performed with Seth McFarlane.

Yes,, he did insist on himself. All. Night. Long.

Posted by: thunderb at February 25, 2013 05:23 PM (Dnbau)

219 I haven't seen an episode of Family Guy in about 4 years. And even then, I was watching reruns. Had to stop when we noticed the eldest child was actually paying attention to what was on tv. But, at the time, I thought Family Guy was fucking hilarious.


*shrugs*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 25, 2013 05:24 PM (GEICT)

220 Funniest thing I've seen in a long while....Craig Ferguson

A comedian who intentionally stays away from politics, yet is funny as hell. It's actually possible.

CF actually had Letterman on a show who began to chastise him for *not* being political.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at February 25, 2013 05:24 PM (feFL6)

221 Penn Jilette had a great response to McFarland on CNN.

Brilliant actually. Basically, why do liberals snear at conservatives for "acting against their own interests" while stimultaneously congratulating themselves for wanting to pay more taxes...against their self interest.

Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2013 05:24 PM (wsGWu)

222 *deadpan* You're the reason we lose elections, you know.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at February 25, 2013 05:23 PM (/kI1Q)

I KNEW you would come around!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:25 PM (GsoHv)

223 "You know, I have never seen 2 seconds of that show because of the asshats that make there living off it."

Neither do I.

Posted by: Selfish Pig Baldwin at February 25, 2013 05:25 PM (tAOpG)

224 A comedian who intentionally stays away from politics, yet is funny as hell. It's actually possible.

It helps to be a foreigner. I mean, look at Haji. That guy cracks me up.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:25 PM (QupBk)

225 215 And I certainly wouldn't know him from watching the Oscars, because you couldn't pay me to watch that crap.

-----------------

*deadpan* You're the reason we lose elections, you know.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at February 25, 2013 05:23 PM (/kI1Q)




I think that chicken is about fucked out there Radish.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 25, 2013 05:26 PM (GEICT)

226 Either way, I'm sure Danica will generate ratings. She really showed her inexperience at the end there.
Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:23 PM (gmeXX)


Not really that insomuchas, she didn't have a dance partner. Had she pulled out on her own she would have lost the draft. Her spotters couldn't find anyone close that trusted her enough to follow her. On the last lap, she was left alone and went backwards. But 8th at the Daytona 500? I'd give a testical for that. It's a BFD.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:26 PM (l86i3)

227
The trigger today seems to be the elections in Italy not going the banksters' way, and the resulting sell off (Dow -200, today).




Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 05:14 PM (hO9ad)

I'm expecting a financial meltdown at some point, and any clue that makes the timeline of it more predictable is interesting to me.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 05:27 PM (bb5+k)

228 It helps to be a foreigner. I mean, look at Haji. That guy cracks me up.


Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:25 PM (QupBk)


Yes.... Yes,..... Hadji is the Bomb.... or is that... has the bomb....

Posted by: Islamic Rage Comedian at February 25, 2013 05:27 PM (lZBBB)

229
I think that chicken is about fucked out there Radish.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 25, 2013 05:26 PM (GEICT)


Yeah, only the pieces the Chinese people eat are left.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:27 PM (l86i3)

230
[Silverman] played second fiddle on broadcast TV to a puppet.
That's not exactly the sign of a brilliant career.
Posted by: Brother Cavil





The Larry Sanders Show? I know Garry Shandling doesn't have a lot of what you might call "range", but still -- kinda harsh.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 25, 2013 05:28 PM (kdS6q)

231 Not really that insomuchas, she didn't have a dance partner. Had she pulled out on her own she would have lost the draft. Her spotters couldn't find anyone close that trusted her enough to follow her. On the last lap, she was left alone and went backwards. But 8th at the Daytona 500? I'd give a testical for that. It's a BFD.

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OK, but isn't that part of experience? She finished high up at Indy before too. I realize she gets a lot of money which helps her team, but she does have some skill.

Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:28 PM (gmeXX)

232 Not a big Seth McFarland fan.Family guy is sophomoric tripe. But I thought he was reasonably entertaining. We recorded it and started around 930. Watched the opening and then fast forwarded through speeches. Honestly thought he did a pretty good job. The opening was interesting, though the Kirk bit went too long and so did the Sally Field thing. It's a tough gig. But he did better than I thought he would. My wife laughed at we saw your boobs, so there is that.

Posted by: RKinRoanoke at February 25, 2013 05:29 PM (DOEXI)

233 DICK GREGORY IS THE BEST COMIC EVER! THE END.

Posted by: KayInMaine at February 25, 2013 05:29 PM (3w4WK)

234 Doesn't look like the blizzard is going to make OKC. Dammit!

Posted by: Soona at February 25, 2013 05:29 PM (RMDvl)

235 I'll say it. I never cared for the Simpsons. Pacing
was too slow. Every episode seemed the same.
Posted by: Jollyroger at February 25, 2013 04:47 PM (t06LC)
I never cared for The Simpsons either, but I loved Futurama. Go figure.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at February 25, 2013 05:29 PM (KSjsb)

236 OK, but isn't that part of experience? She finished high up at Indy before too. I realize she gets a lot of money which helps her team, but she does have some skill.
Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:28 PM (gmeXX)


Yep. She's no Dale Earnhardt Senior or Richard Petty, but she belongs in that series and I'm proud of her.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 25, 2013 05:30 PM (l86i3)

237 Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:28 PM (gmeXX)

Something about chrome and tailpipes, but that may be just a rumor.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 05:30 PM (GsoHv)

238 I actually thought McFarlane did a good job last night, only one jab at Republicans which is really just about as courteous as we can expect from that crowd, it's too bad they went and ruined what was otherwise an apolitical show with the michelle stunt at the end. But then, maybe the reason it was apolitical until then was because they knew they couldn't pile it on due to the idiotic michelle stunt, either way she pretty much ruined the show.

Posted by: booger at February 25, 2013 05:30 PM (HI6wa)

239 I never cared for The Simpsons either, but I loved Futurama. Go figure.

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This just in, humor, it can be quite subjective.

Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:30 PM (gmeXX)

240 "121 Chris TheGuyFromCabinBoy?
Funny. And a funny writer.
Posted by: toby928© "

He did a bit on some late night show a long time ago. He said that he was testing dog food.
They wheeled out a table that had 2 cages with dogs in them. Then Chris opened 2 cans of dog food and put the dog food into dog food dishes. Then he took a spoon and ate some of each, while the dogs had to sit there and watch. The funniest thing was that it looked like it was real dog food.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 25, 2013 05:30 PM (tAOpG)

241 Hated 'Family Guy' from Day One.

It was what I call an 'ass' comedy. That means if we don't have a joke, we throw in the word 'ass' for a shock-laugh. Granted, the word 'ass' seems quaint, now, but it was pertinent then.

The show is built on that, and non-sequitur humor, which gets old when it's the only button you've got.

It deserved to be cancelled the first time, and that's that. 'Seth McFarlane' is now my generic for 'unfunny hack.'

Posted by: zsasz at February 25, 2013 05:30 PM (MMC8r)

242 Doesn't look like the blizzard is going to make OKC. Dammit!

The Gulf Coast is just getting rain. Almost 8 inches in the last 72 hours.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:30 PM (QupBk)

243 237 Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:28 PM (gmeXX)

Something about chrome and tailpipes, but that may be just a rumor.

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Did Ricky Stenhouse Jr have a blowout on one of the laps?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 25, 2013 05:31 PM (e0xKF)

244 I saw the first two seasons of the Family Guy and I think I laughed once. The Simpsons were never funny either.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2013 05:31 PM (1Jaio)

245 OSP - you sound like you know Nascar, which I really don't. I watch from
time to time, but usually it is simply on in the background. I just
assumed there was a lot more passing, but this race didn't seem to have
much. Is that normal for Daytona, or was it simply one of those races?


There was a lot of passing, but it was back in the pack and thus a) hard to follow and b) not all that important. They're driving a new model of car this year and it will take them a few races to sort it out. There'll probably be more effective bump drafting and tandems once they do.

Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 05:31 PM (hO9ad)

246 I think that chicken is about fucked out there Radish.

It was months ago, and you're still wrong. So STFU about it already.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at February 25, 2013 05:31 PM (/kI1Q)

247 And why is that? I would think that the host has
months to polish their jokes and yet they often fall flat. Maybe they
are in love with them and can't let them go even if people tell them
they are lame.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:21 PM (QupBk)

Likely because of the audience they are writing for. they are trying to write for much too diverse of an audience (young and old, liberal and conservative, black and white), all while trying not to offend anyone too much (i.e., not turning it too much into a roast of various celebrities or being too vulgar). And, they aren't doing typical stand-up schtick where they talk about their own observations or experiences - instead they have to try and keep it relevant to the awards show itself.When you are attempting to please everyone, you are going to please nobody. The more broad you make your humor so that everyone "gets it", the less funny it likely ends up being. Which is why humor is so subjective and tends to find more niche audiences. For instance, I don't find most black sit-coms (e.g., the Steve Harvey show) remotely funny. Or, if I hear a black comedian's routine to a black audience, I usually don't find it funny - mostly b/c I don't have the common background. Likewise, as a black friend said at the suggestion of going to see Wayne's World (at the time it was in theaters), "that's white people humor".

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 25, 2013 05:32 PM (sOx93)

248
This: "Something about chrome and tailpipes, but that may be just a rumor."
Followed by: "Almost 8 inches in the last 72 hours"
What was this about again?

Posted by: Jess1 at February 25, 2013 05:32 PM (lbiWb)

249 Not all of the jokes were good, but that's always been the case.



And why is that? I would think that the host has months to polish
their jokes and yet they often fall flat. Maybe they are in love with
them and can't let them go even if people tell them they are lame.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:21 PM (QupBk)







Actually, I'm convinced that the suck factor of the Oscars writing over the last decade or so has a lot to do with the fact that Bruce Vilanch has been the head writer the whole time. He wrote the Star Wars Holiday Special, for goodness sake.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 25, 2013 05:32 PM (TIIx5)

250 The Gulf Coast is just getting rain. Almost 8 inches in the last 72 hours.


Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:30 PM (QupBk)


Yep, we told you it was going to snow... but its only Rain... so it must be due to Global Warming!

Posted by: The Weather Channel at February 25, 2013 05:32 PM (lZBBB)

251 Oh, for the good ol' days of "Fernwood Tonight" and "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman".

And Peter Brady grew up to host the Oscars. Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: Craig Poe at February 25, 2013 05:32 PM (BVkEs)

252 I really enjoyed the Simpsons for a while there, but I don't think I've seen a first-run episode in maybe ten years.

Posted by: zsasz at February 25, 2013 05:32 PM (MMC8r)

253 246 It was months ago, and you're still wrong. So STFU about it already.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at February 25, 2013 05:31 PM (/kI1Q)




Was not, will not, can't make me.


Na na na nana.

:p

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 25, 2013 05:33 PM (GEICT)

254

Merrill Markoe was the reason NBC Letterman was funny. Read the woman's books.

Then he cheated on her like the sex obsessed pervert he is, and that was the end of Ha Ha Dave.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 25, 2013 05:33 PM (kdS6q)

255 I know Garry Shandling doesn't have a lot of what you might call "range", but still -- kinda harsh.

That wasn't broadcast, was it?

Anyway, you asked for it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_the_Bunny

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 25, 2013 05:33 PM (GBXon)

256
Actually, I'm convinced that the suck factor of the Oscars writing over the last decade or so has a lot to do with the fact that Bruce Vilanch has been the head writer the whole time. He wrote the Star Wars Holiday Special, for goodness sake.

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I think he reused parts of that show last night.

Didn't they give Michelle a comb for Life Day?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 25, 2013 05:33 PM (e0xKF)

257 Was not, will not, can't make me.

Fuck off.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at February 25, 2013 05:34 PM (/kI1Q)

258 Armando at February 25, 2013 05:05 PM (5iuEW)

Sorry, but any 'comedian' who thinks that a joke about a New York Yankee baseball player 'knocking up' Sarah Palins 14 year old daughter deserves a 'joke' just as humorous.

Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet at February 25, 2013 05:34 PM (feFL6)

259 Well,comedy.like many things is subjective.I thought the Simpsons was brilliant before they went left with BDS(plus the show has just been on so long).I never liked Sarah Silverman and she has revealed herself to be a hateful,vile left winger.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2013 05:34 PM (9XBK2)

260 252 I really enjoyed the Simpsons for a while there, but I don't think I've seen a first-run episode in maybe ten years.

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Probably for the best.

The quality went downhill around the time that the writing crew switched to the guys who were on the SNL staff for the disasterous 1994-1995 season.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 25, 2013 05:34 PM (e0xKF)

261 I'm expecting a financial meltdown at some point, and any clue that
makes the timeline of it more predictable is interesting to me.


Karl's general prediction has been one big hiccup pretty soon with a fake recovery here as money flees collapse in (take your pick of) Europe, Japan, or China, followed by the big chasm. I think he's been revising that in the face of the Fed board's admission that the printing a)isn't working and b) can't go on forever.

Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 05:34 PM (hO9ad)

262 I never cared for The Simpsons either, but I loved Futurama. Go figure.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at February 25, 2013 05:29 PM (KSjsb)

Wow! Me too! Did we just become best friends?

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 25, 2013 05:34 PM (t06LC)

263 257
Fuck off.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at February 25, 2013 05:34 PM (/kI1Q)




Ummmmm....seriously?


WTH?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 25, 2013 05:35 PM (GEICT)

264 >>>Seth McFarlane's routine last night was not about the movies, it was all about Seth McFarlane. In fact the opening monologue was about him and his performance. And why did we need to hear Norah Jones singing the song from "Ted" written by....Seth McFarlane. And the producers of the Oscars this year were the producers who brought forth....Hairspray, and Chicago, and aplay with Kristen Chenoworth, who sang a song written by...Seth McFarlane and performed with Seth McFarlane.

yup.

Posted by: ace at February 25, 2013 05:35 PM (LCRYB)

265 I just think they try to get too many jokes in, and the opening goes on too long. Not every pair presenting has to engage in whitty (or what passes for whitty) banter. A joke is not required every time. The Shatner bit went on too long. Just scale things back, and allow the truly funny stuff to shine. This would be true for any hosts.

Posted by: SH at February 25, 2013 05:36 PM (gmeXX)

266 I can't believe you knuckleheads made me go the IMDB and see if Seth really was Peter Brady.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:36 PM (QupBk)

267 It was like a textual rick roll.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:36 PM (QupBk)

268 266 I can't believe you knuckleheads made me go the IMDB and see if Seth really was Peter Brady.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:36 PM (QupBk)



Lmfao

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 25, 2013 05:37 PM (GEICT)

269 Letterman started out funny, in his standup routines.

He was funny when he was filling in for Johnny Carson.



But over time...he's become tired and snarky.

And not funny.



Funniest thing I've seen in a long while....Craig Ferguson's 1 hour special, on EPIX.

'Does This Need To Be Said' -- is the name of it.



Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2013 05:19 PM (eyJSG)

As part of this general discussion, I would argue that very few stand-ups remain funny as they age. there is usually about a 10 year sell-by date for them. Particularly if they become very successful. I thought George Carlin was hilarious in his early years, but not remotely funny at the end. Eddie Murphy is not longer funny. I doubt Steve Martin could do stand up now. Billy Crystal hasn't been funny in years.
Comedians are a lot like bands. They come up with some great routines and bits, make it big, and then live off the hits for years without really coming up with anything that great again. Maybe they continue to do o.k. b/c their fans still buy their stuff for awhile, but they never recapture that glory.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 25, 2013 05:37 PM (sOx93)

270 @212: Speaking of Tarantino, I must be the only person who doesn't like Reservoir Dogs.
-----------------------------

No, you're not. I despise Tarantino's movies. They're basically the result of a phenomenon I call "When Geeks Get Money and Make Films."

I think the English filmmaker Nick Broomfield put it best: “It’s like watching a schoolboy’s fantasy of violence and sex, which normally Quentin Tarantino would be wanking alone to in his bedroom while this mother is making his baked beans downstairs. Only this time he’s got Harvey Weinstein behind him and it’s on a million screens.”

Posted by: Norman Bean at February 25, 2013 05:38 PM (sTS/8)

271 No,Peter Brady(whatever that actors name is) hooked up with that reality show chick Adrienne Curry.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2013 05:38 PM (9XBK2)

272 >>>OSP - Really, you liked the race? Do most Nascar races have that little
passing? It just seemed like there was very little of it. Maybe they
just didn't show it when it happened. The only race I really watch is
the Indy 500, which typically has a lot more passing. I tuned in because
of Danica, and just thought it was a boring race.

Restrictor plate races tend to have less action because the drivers tend to drive wide open all the time. It is a far subtler form of racing that is exciting for the enthusiast but boring for the casual observer, much like soccer, and NASCAR does not run restrictor plates on every race. As far as Danica, I think she knew she didn't have the HP to go for a move without drafting partners, and feared she would get hung out to dry like Gordon was at the end.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 25, 2013 05:39 PM (0q2P7)

273 Sorry, who the hell is Seth MacFarlane?

Posted by: dantesed at February 25, 2013 05:39 PM (k16bb)

274 diogenes, I'm cutting and pasting this from the comments:

Karl's definition of Tickercon 1: Locked-and-cocked. Preparations
should be complete. Evidence exists suggesting that a financial,
geopolitical or similar event is likely within the next several weeks.
Wide-spread economic, geopolitical or social distress has a reasonable
probability (better than one in five) of occurring during the above time
period. This status will not be maintained for more than thirty days
as extraordinary vigilance is required to do so.


i.e. don't be long anything and don't have money out anywhere you aren't willing to lose while you sleep. Be very aware of your personal surroundings.

Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 05:40 PM (hO9ad)

275 I watched two interviews of Mel Blanc on Youtube. One with Carson and the other with Letterman. Both done around the same time and the Carson interview was great. Carson was entertained by Blanc and his audience was great. Letterman acted like an unimpressed dick and his audience sucked, I think mostly due to Letterman's attitude, not Blanc's performance. I've seen Letterman do this before. He acts very unimpressed and the audience picks up on it and decides they're supposed to be unimpressed and the guest bombs. The guy's a true dick.

Posted by: Dang at February 25, 2013 05:40 PM (R18D0)

276 I thought Letterman was funny when he first started. I like that dry, subtlehumor. I like the David Spades, the Norm McDonalds. Unfortunately Letterman's style has changed and thus his fans.

Seth McFarland has his moments. Very few but he has them. My biggest disappointment was Ted which didn't have one moment.

My favorite is Mike Judge. King of the Hill and Beavis and Butthead are my kind of humor. Bob's Burgers is growing on me too. I believe it has a King of the Hill connection with Jim Dauterive.

Posted by: polyworthy at February 25, 2013 05:41 PM (m2CN7)

277 270

When Tarantino can make an actual drama instead of ripping off established genres and filling them with bad puppets in lieu of characters, then I'll give a shit.

Posted by: zsasz at February 25, 2013 05:41 PM (MMC8r)

278 Just for the record the sock puppet Flight and the Sound of Music Nazi reference were hilarious.

Posted by: Created Or Saved at February 25, 2013 05:41 PM (iJ3YG)

279 I can't believe you knuckleheads made me go the IMDB and see if Seth really was Peter Brady.

Posted by: toby928© for TB

Fuckin' Brian Dennehy, dude.

Posted by: Dang at February 25, 2013 05:42 PM (R18D0)

280 266 I can't believe you knuckleheads made me go the IMDB and see if Seth really was Peter Brady.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 25, 2013 05:36 PM (QupBk)

____________

Gross--that is who he looks like except with more makeup.

Also his crap was bad but the sock puppet parody of Flight was funny, damn it.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2013 05:42 PM (r2PLg)

281 My favorite is Mike Judge.

He also did Office Space and Idiocracy, two of the more classic comedies of the last few decades.

Posted by: zsasz at February 25, 2013 05:43 PM (MMC8r)

282 I've seen Letterman do this before. He acts very unimpressed and the
audience picks up on it and decides they're supposed to be unimpressed
and the guest bombs. The guy's a true dick.


Yeah, that's what i've always hated about Letterman, his insistence on treating some guests like shit, why have them on the show at all if he's going to do that? Either be a professional like Carson or just don't book them in the first place.

Posted by: booger at February 25, 2013 05:43 PM (HI6wa)

283 If Donny and Marie had a son, he'd look like Seth McFarlane.

Posted by: Craig Poe at February 25, 2013 05:44 PM (BVkEs)

284 i.e. don't be long anything and don't have money out
anywhere you aren't willing to lose while you sleep. Be very aware of
your personal surroundings.


Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2013 05:40 PM (hO9ad)

Thanks for the heads up. I've been pulling April 19th out of my ass, just because so much stuff has historically happened around that time period.

Was kinda hoping for more time.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 05:45 PM (bb5+k)

285 I knew absolutely nothing about Seth McFarlane before last night, and I thought the stuff he did was really funny. The fact that liberal scolds like Peter Beinart have lost their shit over it means that it probably actually was funny. And the dude is really handsome, charismatic,and talented. With a little bit better material he would have been amazing.

The show itself was a total trainwreck, butmost of that was not McFarlane's fault. For example, he did not make the amazing decision to have an Oscar show with a theme of movie music, AND THEN PUT THE ORCHESTRA IN ANOTHER BUILDING DOWN THE STREET. Or have an opening with the only actual musical number being "I Saw Your Boobs" (which I thought was hilarious.) Or to have a 50th Anniversary of James Bond without a single actor who actually played James Bond on the stage. Or to have 45-year-old Catherine Zeta-Jones do the worst lip-synch since Britney Spears, of a 30-year-old song from a 10-year-old movie. Many WTF moments in the show for me, but none of them were about McFarlane or his jokes.

What was terrible about the show was that it pasted McFarlane and his brand of humor on top of a show conceived and produced by a couple of gay Broadway musical producers. That was bound to producea "what were they thinking??" result. They should have had Neil Patrick Harris or Matthew Morrison host the show.

Posted by: rockmom at February 25, 2013 05:46 PM (aBlZ1)

286 D Lamp-Damnit, this is supposed to be a Deeper Human Realities Behind comedy thread...not a place for birthers. Although to be fair birthers are depressingly hilarious. And sad.

Posted by: Danny at February 25, 2013 05:46 PM (rMX8p)

287
For reference, here's all the comedy -- or "comedy" bits from the Oscars:

http://tinyurl.com/afm4zca


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 25, 2013 05:47 PM (kdS6q)

288 Once upon a time the Oscars were the only time we saw the stars not on the screen. Or heard them talk extemporaneously.

Now we see them all the time and hear every mundane piece of crap that comes out their mouth.

The Oscars now are one big circle jerk so why is it surprising that they put an even bigger jerk who's an expert at jerking off up as the MC?

It's fascinating to watch maybe once or only for few minutes, after that it's repetitive, predictable and oh so pretentious an boring.

They used to just present the Actor/Actress, Best awards and left the tech stuff till later or never. Now that tech is 80% or more of film today, they've demanded bigger billing and it's killing the show.

Time to stop with all the self congratulations. Hold a party and suck/lick each other off and be done with it.

Don't inflict your insecurities and egos on the rest of us who actually have to work for a living.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 25, 2013 05:48 PM (qyv02)

289 "Who the hell is Seth McFarlane? I wouldn't know him if I saw him on the street."
===============

Just picture in your mind the gayest man you can imagine, minus facial hair and assless chaps. Got him? That's Seth.

Posted by: Kensington at February 25, 2013 05:48 PM (/AHDz)

290 I'm pretty sure South Park nailed it when they pointed out how Family Guy wasn't really smart and that Macfarlane just uses the same joke over and over again with different names and places.

Posted by: cp at February 25, 2013 05:49 PM (nF4Jh)

291 "220 Funniest thing I've seen in a long while....Craig Ferguson "

When he was working on getting his citizenship he was doing some funny stuff. I seem to recall his trying to get various states to give him honorary citizenships or something.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 25, 2013 05:49 PM (tAOpG)

292 Yeah, that's what i've always hated about Letterman,
his insistence on treating some guests like shit, why have them on the
show at all if he's going to do that? Either be a professional like
Carson or just don't book them in the first place.


Posted by: booger at February 25, 2013 05:43 PM

Talk shows are mostly vehicles to promote a book, tv show, or movie that the guest is on. Agents, publicists, studios, and networks push the guest to do the talk show circuit and the show is pushed to book them

Letterman is told "book so and so, because if you don't forget booking the so and so that you're dying to have on your show"

Letterman being a dick is his way of saying fuck you, besides his opportunity to drop the mask and be the dick that he really is in person

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2013 05:49 PM (mCvL4)

293 290 I'm pretty sure South Park nailed it when they pointed out how Family Guy wasn't really smart and that Macfarlane just uses the same joke over and over again with different names and places.

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Parker and Stone say they got a lot of support from other people in the animation community for that particular set of episodes, as no one likes McFarlane there.

One guy at King Of The Hill in particular told them they were "doing God's work".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 25, 2013 05:50 PM (e0xKF)

294 D Lamp-Damnit, this is supposed to be a Deeper Human
Realities Behind comedy thread...not a place for birthers. Although to
be fair birthers are depressingly hilarious. And sad.

Posted by: Danny at February 25, 2013 05:46 PM (rMX8p)


Thanks for providing supporting evidence for the herd theory argument. Not cool, is exactly the same thing as "cool" with the signs reversed.





Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 25, 2013 05:51 PM (bb5+k)

295 Ah, an entire thread full of people telling us what is funny and what isn't.

The irony is murderous.

If it makes me laugh, it's funny. If not, it's not. It's really quite simple.

Posted by: Libtardo at February 25, 2013 05:52 PM (ULg3N)

296 How about "it makes us as a party look like bigoted dipshits who believe ridiculous conspiracy notions." Are 9/11 truthers in the right because most of us follow the "herd" and believe that UBL was behind it, and not say Dubya or Halliburton?

Posted by: Danny at February 25, 2013 05:54 PM (rMX8p)

297 Shows you how ignorant I am, I didn't even know McFarlane was the guy behind "Family Guy." I haven't watcheda second of that show. I figured he was the star of some dumbass ABC comedy show that I never watch. Anyways, as a host I think he has great potential, the camera loves him and he has a great face and voice for TV.

Posted by: rockmom at February 25, 2013 05:55 PM (aBlZ1)

298 What is comedy?

Posted by: Our grandchildren : 2043 A.D. at February 25, 2013 05:55 PM (EZl54)

299 "Sorry, but any 'comedian' who thinks that a joke about a New York Yankee baseball player 'knocking up' Sarah Palins 14 year old daughter deserves a 'joke' just as humorous.
Posted by: illegally posting anonymously on the internet "

Especially when said comedian, oops, accidentally knocked up his own girlfriend.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 25, 2013 05:56 PM (tAOpG)

300 I still like Family Guy.

Posted by: Kensington at February 25, 2013 05:56 PM (/AHDz)

301 Seth McFarlane is celebrated and now honored by the American whore-class, for only one reason, and speaks volumes of our culture. He is an anti-Christian bigot. All his humor is based upon a mis-characterization of modern Christians, and American Christianity. He is the personification of the Hollywood producers and writers that make films that are utterly worthless and thoughtless vehicles for the demeaning of the name of Jesus Christ. Naturally he is awarded as the host of the masturbatory fantasy called the Oscars.

Doubt my assessment? Watch nearly any Hollywood movie and count the times Jesus is used for a curse word. Even when it has no reason to be in the script, almost a gratuitous insertion to demean the name of Christ. How "edgy," how utterly "courageous," are these jackals that still cannot make a movie of world-wide Jihad!

Nor a single movie depicting the honor and courage of our soldiers in Iraq.

These people are scum, who love scum who celebrate other scum. Watch a Family guy episode or two if you doubt what I am saying. The caricature of American Christianity for these people is like the last preacher they knew was wearing a sandwich board down in the Bowery, screaming repent or die! Ignorant of the fact that modern science was invented by Christians, most hospitals built by Christians, merciful societies created by Christians, equal rights fought for by Christians etc.


Posted by: Jehu at February 25, 2013 06:00 PM (cSD32)

302 300- You aren't alone!

Posted by: Danny at February 25, 2013 06:01 PM (rMX8p)

303 The first 3(?) years of "Family Guy" before it got cancelled was pretty evenhanded on the political front.

Even Clinton came in for some harsh treatment.

My guess is that Seth McFarland isn't quite the hardcore libtard he appears to be these days.

My guess is that getting cancelled focussed his mind wonderfully.

"Family Guy" was supposed to be his stepping stone to...well...Seth McFarland: singin' dancin' jokin' triple threat movie star.

It doesn't take a genius to see the quickest way to ingratiate yourself with the Hollywood crowd is to become an out loud and proud libtard.

So when he got his second chance....

Now he's gotten what he wants- he's the star of his next movie, a "Blazing Saddles"-type western.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 25, 2013 06:02 PM (j2lYi)

304 Funny??? you want funny????

Posted by: The Aristocrats at February 25, 2013 06:02 PM (lZBBB)

305 American Dad can kiss my ass, though.

Posted by: Kensington at February 25, 2013 06:03 PM (/AHDz)

306 The preference cascade against Obama ended where the EBT began.

Posted by: madamex at February 25, 2013 06:04 PM (+kvQd)

307 Seth MacFarlane is an extremely talented voice actor, but that's as far as I would take it. His humor is pretty lazy--fart jokes, drunk jokes, remember the 80's jokes. I don't begrudge him his success, but I was kind of put out that "Ted" became as popular as it did because I thought that meant MacFarlane would now be ruining movies they way he did television.

The Robot Chicken Star Wars parodies were way better.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 25, 2013 06:04 PM (xjpRj)

308 I will now add that clip to the ever increasing list of things Seth MacFarlane has done that was not funny or interesting even accidentally.

Posted by: jd at February 25, 2013 06:05 PM (MXyBs)

309 Excuse me but Zero Dark Thirty and Act of Valor both had extremely positive portrayals of our men and women in uniform. And plenty of people -atheist or religious-say Jesus or goddamnit or any combination of religious swear words. That's how people talk. Christianity is like any human organization capable of good and evil (though Islam is truly worse as a rule, but we at the HQ know that). The Klan members who murdered innocents were often church goers. Those same murdered civil rights protestors were often themselves Christians. Good and evil, two sides of the coin.

Posted by: Danny at February 25, 2013 06:07 PM (rMX8p)

310

American Dad can kiss my ass, though.

American Dad is the same show. Nutty dad? Check! Somewhat, sometimes sane mother? Check! Older slutty daughter? Check! Younger idiot son? Check! Improbable non human characters? Check!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at February 25, 2013 06:08 PM (eyJh9)

311 McFarlande was quite terrible last night that I though they should bring back Letterman who also sucks.

I was a big Letterman fan in the early years . I even remember his morning show, but when he was good it was because of the shows edge and his witty comebacks.
He was never good however in his stand up opening monologue.

Posted by: Avi at February 25, 2013 06:09 PM (JSaqW)

312 Jehu-Bottom line, take a chill pill my friend

Posted by: Danny at February 25, 2013 06:10 PM (rMX8p)

313 a lot of prostitutes are Christians too

Posted by: JDP at February 25, 2013 06:13 PM (60GaT)

314 Danny at 309. Two or three movies about a ten year war with thousands of Americans killed or wounded is your idea that Hollywood has done their duty? And using Jesus' name as a curse-word IS now acceptable in our culture BECAUSE of the behavior by the Seth MacFarlane's and the promotion for 40 years by Hollywood to demean that name.

That you are an unwitting tool and think this is acceptable is simply the evidence that they have succeeded, no other culture in the world demeans the name of their religious figures, only Western Civilization. Are you also too stupid to realize an agenda even while you are eating it like a good doggie?

Part of Islam's success is because they defend what they believe, as evil as that belief actually is, and equating Christianity to Islam or any other religion is sheer ignorance, the foundations of Christianity are sound morality by anyone's reckoning, that is why it can be reformed, or returned to that foundation laid down by Christ. To blame the foundation for the perverted behavior of followers that are ignorant or misled, is like blaming guns for killing.

Posted by: Jehu at February 25, 2013 06:21 PM (cSD32)

315 I'd like to see Karl from 'An Idiot Abroad' host the Oscars.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2013 06:22 PM (Yi7pF)

316 Danny... I am not your friend, anyone that likes MacFarlane or thinks it is OK to use Jesus' name to curse because they are too limited to develop their vocabulary for colorful expression can go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Jehu at February 25, 2013 06:24 PM (cSD32)

317
Posted by: Jehuat February 25, 2013 06:24 PM (cSD32)

Who is this douchebag?

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2013 06:25 PM (Yi7pF)

318 The entertainment preference cascade was hilariously covered by the Seinfeld episode "The English Patient"

Elaine is treated as a pariah and was even fired by Peterman because she hated "The English Patient"

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2013 06:28 PM (mCvL4)

319 Family Guy is funny.

Seth MacF is funny.

SNL is funny.

Even Letterman USED to be funny.

Some of you are just old curmudgeons, I suspect. Or you can't get past politics.


Posted by: Bang Out Of Order at February 25, 2013 06:39 PM (1H47k)

320 Funny. I stopped watching Letterman once he moved over to CBS.

It just seemed he never got over being passed over for Carson's spot, and his once biting, sarcastic humor turned into unfunny bitching.

To this day, Letterman's Third Anniversary Special sits on a VHS tape and I still watch it on occasion.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at February 25, 2013 06:49 PM (dM1NM)

321 319 Family Guy is funny.

Seth MacF is funny.

SNL is funny.

Even Letterman USED to be funny.

Some of you are just old curmudgeons, I suspect. Or you can't get past politics.


Posted by: Bang Out Of Order at February 25, 2013 06:39 PM (1H47k)

No
Wouldn't know
NO!!!
maybe
and of course the HQ is filled with GET OFF MY LAWN!!! types. That's part of the charm.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 25, 2013 07:00 PM (FsUAO)

322 #159

Jonathan Winters? No, the father of Chris Elliott's character was played by his actual father, comedian Bob Elliott.

Posted by: epobirs at February 25, 2013 07:13 PM (kcfmt)

323 Jehu my friend come on now, lets be civil. Of course Hollywood could have done better. Shit man, I'm usually the first one to harp on them for being full of leftist group think. But as much as I like how act of valor used real heros as actors, it's stilted and black in white in a way that ZDT is not. Zero Dark Thirty gives us a glimpse into the dark and difficult world that is modern counter terror, while also showing us the skill and courage of SEALs. Honest, and superb. Too bad there aren't more movies like this-and I repeat myself-that are honest about war and don't butter it up to make us knights in shining armor. Soviets did that, and we called it propaganda.
It's actually amazing that Western Civilization allows for self criticism. Id rather live in a society where everything is funny and open to critique (USA!) than where cultural sensitivities limit expression. The fact that we dont circle jerk ourselves into complancency and consistently adapt is a testament to the value of critique. Our freedom to ridicule all religions (except for the religion of peace sadly) is one reason why our society is free in other arenas.
And seriously now? You're going to tell me Marine gunnies didn't Use The Lords Name in Vain in WWII? Or that people didn't say "Jesus Christ!" when the depression hit? Just like matters of sex, it's not so much that our culture is radically different than in the past; we are actually being honest about swearing (or fucking before marriage) all along. So yes, it's better to view Seth as a product of American entertainment (take him or leave him) than as a modern day Sodomite.

Posted by: Danny at February 25, 2013 07:22 PM (rMX8p)

324
Late to the game on this post, but...
Overall, I think McFarlane's pretty funny. He's definitely hit or miss, though. However, when he hits, he's good.
The problem I think he ran into (with Family Guy and American Dad, but especially Family Guy) is that when your lead character is basically an obnoxious dick, he's going to get worse every season until he's just obnoxious and no longer funny. For Peter Griffin, there's no reason that his family or friends would have anything but an all-consuming hatred for him. He's gotten too obnoxious.
Some of the other characters have gotten less funny because of overuse. For example, Quagmire needs to be like Bluto in Animal House - use him infrequently, and he'll steal every scene. Put him in too much, and he just falls flat. Herbert and Carter Pewterschmidt are similar: with limited use, they're good, but they can't carry episodes because they're too one-dimensional.
It also was a misfire to change Stewie from evil to homosexual. An evil baby gives you options, a homosexual one just gives you gay jokes.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at February 25, 2013 09:12 PM (FsqHK)

325 324-Sadly you are correct. It took me awhile to "come out of the closet" and admit that I liked Family Guy more than the Simpsons (despite have literally grown up with the Simpsons since I watched American TV) because it was funnier. But I've never hated Homer and when the epidode calls for it, one can feel sorry for him. Not Peter.

Posted by: Danny at February 26, 2013 12:30 AM (JkOHG)

326
I've watched "Family Guy". I've tried to like "Family Guy". I finally gave up on "Family Guy" when I realized that the only characters on the show that I like are Stewie, Chris, Brian and Quagmire.

The rest? they can die in a fire.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at February 26, 2013 09:16 AM (1hM1d)






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