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Seriously You Guys, It's $&@! Monday.

Posted by: Andy at 06:33 AM



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1 Damn early~!

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:35 AM (53z96)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, February 25, 2013. On this day Queen Elizabeth as excommunicated (1570), Colt got a patent for the revolver (1836), and US steel was born (1870).

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:36 AM (53z96)

3 Just in time.

Posted by: Boone at February 25, 2013 06:37 AM (tIyK2)

4 Fox continues the war on the non cuts. Must be non-news today.

http://is.gd/aOoKGj

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:37 AM (53z96)

5 This is why I think polls are all shit.

http://is.gd/2Y2Fok

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:37 AM (53z96)

6 This is why I think The Hill is shit.

http://is.gd/HefB0c

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:38 AM (53z96)

7 Another hooker rats out the shit from NJ. But she is from the US.

http://is.gd/eQF4nh

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:38 AM (53z96)

8 In NY you can now get food stamps for your doggee, If you didn’t think that was already going on you are dumber than a post hole digger.

http://is.gd/q0L5BS

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:39 AM (53z96)

9 Menendez blames Republicans and racists for hinm screwing underage girls,

http://is.gd/EbAUEH

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:39 AM (53z96)

10 Monday, Monday, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. Hope you all had a happy weekend. I expect the morning briefing will be as depressing as always, so why don’t we talk movies for a little bit? I was asked for a David Lean story, but sadly I don’t have one. So here’s the tale of his best-known movie:


Imagine, if you will, Marlon Brando kitted out in a burnoose and flowing robes, galloping after a column of Turkish soldiers screaming "No prisoners!" Well, that's who producer Sam Spiegel wanted for the title role of the epic Lawrence of Arabia. Director Lean, however, was leery of Brando's ego and his way of terrorizing everyone on a set. How about Albert Finney instead? So Finney was dutifully screen-tested, only to turn down the role because he didn't want to be chained to a multi-film contract with Spiegel. Then Lean suggested Peter O'Toole*, having been impressed with his performance in the 1959 film The Day They Robbed the Bank of England.

Spiegel, however, didn't want O'Toole. He had a grudge against him, and here’s why: it seems that when Katharine Hepburn was in London, she had been impressed with O'Toole's performance in the play The Long and the Short and the Tall and had recommended him to Spiegel, who was having problems with Montgomery Clift while filming Suddenly Last Summer. O'Toole, considered as a stop-gap replacement for Clift, was hustled out to Shepperton Studios and onto the set of a doctor's office for a screent test. He was given an X-ray as a prop, and, cheeky as ever, decided to lead off his test with a joke; giving the woman opposite him a serious look, he intoned, "Mrs Spiegel, your son will never play the violin again." The producer was not amused and O'Toole was tossed off the Suddenly set. But after seeing the actor's test for Lawrence, even Spiegel had to admit O'Toole was perfect for the part. Swallowing his distaste, Spiegel called O'Toole: "I want you to play Lawrence." "Oh, yes," said O'Toole. "Is it a speaking part?" "Don't make jokes," Spiegel growled back.

O'Toole would spend the next two years filming Lawrence, much of that time spent in the company of his new friend Omar Sharif, who had been promoted to the co-starring role of Sherif Ali when other actors considered for the role didn't pan out. "Omar Sharif?" O'Toole exclaimed when he was first introduced to the Egyptian actor. "No one in the world is called Omar Sharif. Your name must be Fred." And from that time on, O'Toole's nickname for Sharif has always been "Cairo Fred." The two partied extremely hearty during the shoot, filming non-stop for ten days, then chartering a private plane to Beirut for three or four days wallowing in the "Sin City of the East"'s bars and whorehouses before staggering back in front of the cameras.

Still, Lawrence took its toll on O'Toole, and not just because of Sam Spiegel's crustiness or the tyrranical direction of David Lean.** After his first lesson learning to ride a camel, blood oozed from the seat of O’Toole’s jeans. He was nearly killed when an effects gun, going off too soon, startled his camel and threw him off in front of several hundred charging crazed Bedouins. At various times he received third-degree burns, dislocated his spine, broke his thumb, tore ligaments in his hip and thigh and suffered two concussions. Six months into the shoot, O'Toole was allowed to go back to England to rest. Once there, he went on what he called, "the ultimate bender. After six months in the desert, I should think so." But he was arrested for drunken driving and had his license pulled for a year, which only infuriated Spiegel more.

But it was all worth it. When Lawrence opened in 1962, it was a world-wide smash - it's still considered one of the greatest films ever made - and O'Toole became an overnight star. So let's let him have the final word:

"I woke up one morning to find I was famous. Bought a white Rolls-Royce and drove down Sunset Boulevard, wearing dark specs and a white suit, waving like the queen mum. Nobody took any fucking notice, but I thoroughly enjoyed it."


Hope you all have a wonderful day. Tomorrow’s movie will be On the Waterfront.

*Yes, despite all the jokes, it's his real name: Peter Seamus Lorcan O'Toole.

*Lean was notorious as a mind-gaming tyrant of a director willing to go to any physical and emotional length to get the reaction he wanted out of his actors. O'Toole himself would play a fictionalized (but, according to those who worked with him, a quite accurate) version of Lean in the 1980 film The Stunt Man.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 25, 2013 06:39 AM (zF6Iw)

11 Casanewsca

MSNBC is shocked — shocked — to discover that there are Marxists on the Harvard

http://is.gd/BUjXPJ

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:40 AM (53z96)

12 There is a reason Whorywood supports Obama. They get $1.5B in tax cuts ANNUALLY. Evil oil never had it so good.

http://is.gd/I55u08

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:40 AM (53z96)

13 Patrick Leahy comes out of the closet and sucks dead Castro’s dick.

http://is.gd/WFYfCG

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:41 AM (53z96)

14 Could anything demonstrate why the Oscars show is bullshit better than this? Will any Moron admit that he watched it?

http://is.gd/eRmyNO

Hey, but the swag bag is now worth $48K!

http://is.gd/uxMdsF


And I have added Argo to the list of films I will never watch.

http://is.gd/NInTFi

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:41 AM (53z96)

15 WaPo tells the States how the non-cuts will cut them. Does anyone at tat newspaper have crowns that could be removed by excessive vacuum?

http://is.gd/4yuNos


Moar coming, I am running late

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:42 AM (53z96)

16 At a Black History Month event held at a Trenton, N.J. church on Sunday, Democratic Senator Bob Menendez blamed conservatives for his ethics scandals, framing them as a racial attack on him because of his Hispanic heritage.

I'm surprised he didn't cry out "I ain't no way taaahhrd!"

Number 1, I'm shocked that evil bastard didn't get struck by lightning the moment he crossed the church's threshhold. Number 2, when the F will the GOP start bringing a damn RICO hammer down on these black churches for in-kind contributions to Democrats?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 25, 2013 06:43 AM (zF6Iw)

17 This is why I think polls are all shit.

I disagree. I think the poll is accurate. American
people *actually* believe that you *can* balance the budget by reducing the military. They also believe entitlements can remain untouched, the Food Stamp program can continually expand, and SSSI can be raided. They also believe in aardvarks, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny.

Not a view shared by high information voters.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 25, 2013 06:43 AM (feFL6)

18 Obama breaks his lies down by State now

http://is.gd/nD0qLM

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:47 AM (53z96)

19 American people *actually* believe that you *can* balance the budget by reducing the military.

Of course they do. These are the same mewling lackwits who've grown up peddling those imbecilic Air-Force-having-to-hold-a-bake-sale bumper stickers. I guarantee if you asked any one of them what percentage of the budget is consumed by the military, they'd insist it was at least 50 and probably 75%. This country's too stupid to live.

brb, need some tea.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 25, 2013 06:48 AM (zF6Iw)

20 Illinois vote seen as a bellwether on gun control; Jesse Jackson Jr.’s seat an early test


Hahhahaha; kiss my ass. I think SC is a better "bellweather"


http://is.gd/3VQDu4



Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:51 AM (53z96)

21 WaTi wants all you "moderates" to start another flame war.

http://is.gd/Q3Jfym


Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

22 Omar Sharif's real name is Michel Demitri Shalhoub.

Posted by: epobirs at February 25, 2013 06:53 AM (kcfmt)

23 I am not surprised Michelle appeared at the end of the Oscars. She will be appearing more and more frequently so as to raise her profile.

SO glad I didn't watch. My blood pressure is high enough already.

Also, Argo winning was predicted by some Hollywood entertainment reporter on my local radio, because he said the Academy LOVES movies in which they are portrayed as heroes.


Posted by: Miss Marple at February 25, 2013 06:53 AM (GoIUi)

24 here's the President in his lovely gown awarding the Best Picture award


what branch of service are the uniformed people in the background?

http://is.gd/zUh6YW

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 25, 2013 06:54 AM (8sCoq)

25 Didn't Michelle Obama abandon the "Let's Move" campaign, meat cleaver style?

Now, due to this random act, 2.5 million obese kids are going to be scarfing down uninspected meat and squirting diarrhea all over our beautiful countryside.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at February 25, 2013 06:55 AM (9BmVT)

26 Dis anyone actually think the Oscars was about movies?

http://is.gd/8fT19r


Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 25, 2013 06:57 AM (8sCoq)

28 Happier than ever I've given up TV and movies.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 06:57 AM (I2LwF)

29 I didn't watch the Oscars, but my husband told me about the big Empress Michelle appearance. The way he described it reminded me of "Mom" on Futurama, dominating the big screen, cooing loving platitudes at her pre-programmed robot slaves, gathered to shower her with tribute.

Wasn't there at least one "star" in the audience who was thinking, "Fuck.You. This is OUR thing" ?

The only solace I can take was that she wasn't announcing "Django Unchained" as Best Pic.

Anyway, good morning, all y'all. I'm off to work my three jobs condensed into one now.

Posted by: Gem at February 25, 2013 06:58 AM (zw+pb)

30 DEo you think gun control is running high in NY? Look out Cuomo.

http://www.websterpost.com/

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 06:59 AM (53z96)

31 I was watching a show yesterday about families moving to China. Some interesting things like in Shanghai a new skyscraper goes up every five days.

// begin rant
Dumbest thing this country ever did was give China *permanent * most favored trade status. It has guaranteed them prosperity while this country gets permanent stagnation.
// end rant

Other interesting points... You can purchase a home there, but you never own the land. You can't purchase a home unless you put 30% down.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 25, 2013 06:59 AM (feFL6)

32 Wasn't there at least one "star" in the audience who was thinking, "Fuck.You. This is OUR thing" ?

Instead of how lucky they are to have just a beautiful empress? If any of them are found out, they'll never work in either of those towns again.



Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 25, 2013 07:02 AM (hO8IJ)

33 Chart-fu on the phony Armageddon

http://is.gd/Con71r


Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 07:03 AM (53z96)

34 Oh, and I read a book last night instead of watching that crap, so the next election we lose is all my fault or something.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 25, 2013 07:04 AM (hO8IJ)

35 #31

And how many of those skyscrapers have tenants? Or even squatters?

China has some huge problem looming. If they end the absurd pace of construction for useless buildings the mass of newly unemployed construction workers will forced certain realities to be acknowledged.

Posted by: epobirs at February 25, 2013 07:05 AM (kcfmt)

36 Wasn't there at least one "star" in the audience who was thinking, "Fuck.You. This is OUR thing" ?

I'd bet a week's paythat overspangled, undereducated, ill-manneredsub-Beyonce piece of racist ghetto trash thinks "Akira Kurosawa" issome kindof sushi.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 25, 2013 07:05 AM (zF6Iw)

37 All you budding musicians will like the Daily Deals today

http://is.gd/zEnekk

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 07:06 AM (53z96)

38 Oh, and I read a book last night instead of watching that crap, so the next election we lose is all my fault or something.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 25, 2013 07:04 AM (hO8IJ)


I watched a DVD and then read and listened to music. There's no power in the world that could get me to pay attention to those human trash heaps unless I had a head's up that used cat litter would rain down on all the attenders.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2013 07:06 AM (UYfkz)

39 #34 Heather, I didn't turn my TV on for one minute. I only looked at dresses on a Pinterest site.

I fail to understand how watching the Oscars will make us any more likely to win in 2016. Someone is going to have to connect the dots for me on that one.

It seems to me that giving money and attention to a group of people who have consistently mocked and vilified you at every opportunity is not much different than a woman going back to a wife-beater.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 25, 2013 07:06 AM (GoIUi)

40 Didn't watch the Oscars but from what I'm reading this morning, the show was pretty much a trainwreck. Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan both opted out of the Bond tribute, and the "In Memoriam" segment forgot Larry Hagman, Andy Griffith, Harry Carey Jr, Ann Rutherford, Donna Summer, Alex Karras and Phyllis Diller

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 25, 2013 07:07 AM (8sCoq)

41 Instead of how lucky they are to have just a beautiful empress?

I was thrilled that Evita Michelle appeared for the descamisados.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 25, 2013 07:07 AM (feFL6)

42 Today is Ugly Cat day

http://is.gd/EyOZld

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 07:07 AM (53z96)

43 I wasn't really paying attention yesterday, was it the Castros who introduced the Oscar, and the Obamas who announced they'd stay in office for just 5 more years, or.....

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2013 07:08 AM (BeSEI)

44 seriously you guys I think we have proof the Kronos invasion force is winning...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:10 AM (LRFds)

45 If they end the absurd pace of construction for useless buildings the mass of newly unemployed construction workers will forced certain realities to be acknowledged.

Interesting point. Might be strategy on the commie governments part to keep males occupied with hammers and nails, and keep their minds off the fact they can't get laid.

Something else on the China show I just remembered... if you are having any renovation work done on a house, the construction crew moves into your home until the job is finished.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 25, 2013 07:12 AM (feFL6)

46 10 MP3,

http://youtu.be/j3UzqqHuB3U

My Favorite "Lush"....

I miss Mr. O'toole

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:13 AM (LRFds)

47
Patrick Leahy comes out of the closet and sucks dead Castro’s dick.




Can we just give Vermont to the Canucks and be done with this evil pile of shit?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2013 07:16 AM (UYfkz)

48 If you don't speak the language of the mass culture, you will never win over the masses. Doesn't mean the Oscars are important in themselves, but there's a reason Obama surrounds himself with celebrities, celebrities sell. I watched almost an hour of the show before I couldn't stand it anymore so I did my part for the cause.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 07:16 AM (ZshNr)

49 Everything sucks now. Everything.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 07:17 AM (0iDjO)

50 Looks like I have a foot of snow coming tonight,,,pushed by 35-40mph winds at times.
Oh yeah, possibly starting with a rain snow mix. Great. A sheet of ice to freeze my explorer's doors shut.
Good. Times.

Posted by: teej at February 25, 2013 07:18 AM (kGDRz)

51 #45

Do a search on Chinese ghost cities. In addition to the ongoing construction in the PRC, they've put up whole cities with no inhabitants in Mongolia and Africa. They either have some sort of wild plan or are using utter insanity to tread water.

Posted by: epobirs at February 25, 2013 07:19 AM (kcfmt)

52 > but there's a reason Obama surrounds himself with celebrities, celebrities sell.


He sees himself as a celebrity

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 25, 2013 07:20 AM (8sCoq)

53 48 LincolnTF,

if you keep playing in the culture wars you're refusing to begin the steps necessary for the break IMHO.

I am reserved in giving the "watchers' credit for their enabling of the Horrywood Whorehouse emo cannon...

I'd appreciate not being expected to suck Horrywood's dick or "it's you fault."

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:20 AM (LRFds)

54 Thinking of Michelle Obama, made me think of Evita Peron, which made me think about 'Don't Cry For Me Argentina' which made me look in Wiki and discovered this funny nugget...

During the 1982 Falklands War between the United Kingdom and Argentina, the song was sometimes played sarcastically by British regimental bands as they deployed to the Falklands.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 25, 2013 07:21 AM (feFL6)

55 He sees himself as a celebrity


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 25, 2013 07:20 AM (8sCoq)


Exactly; he's Rupert Pupkin.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2013 07:23 AM (UYfkz)

56 If you don't speak the language of the mass culture, you will never win over the masses.

...a hybrid of hillbilly,
valleygirl, inner-city slang and various grunts. Joe was able to
understand them, but when he spoke in an ordinary voice he sounded
pompous and faggy to them.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 25, 2013 07:23 AM (hO8IJ)

57 That too. But a lot of it has to do with "Who would you rather hang out with/be aligned with, the guy who parties with Jay Z and Beyonce or the guy who spends his days buried in green eye shades and balance sheets?".

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 07:23 AM (ZshNr)

58 54 Regular Moron,

Show me a cult of personality that left a nation richer long term post Washington.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:23 AM (LRFds)

59 Lincoln: how's your finger today?

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 07:23 AM (0iDjO)

60 56 Ms radish,

Bah-Rawn-Ko has electrolytes....

yeah I ain't trying to take over their culture or shame them anymore I am trying to ready myself for divorcing their culture....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:24 AM (LRFds)

61 Finger is good, the very tip of it hurts when I put pressure on it but I guess I escaped without major damage.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 07:26 AM (ZshNr)

62 "These are the same mewling lackwits who've grown up peddling those
imbecilic Air-Force-having-to-hold-a-bake-sale bumper stickers. I
guarantee if you asked any one of them what percentage of the budget is
consumed by the military, they'd insist it was at least 50 and probably
75%."

Here in Commiefornia, you will hear the "50%" figure quite regularly. A local article of faith among good liberals.

I used to try to refute it quoting actual percentages.

Libtards would say, "But you're leaving out Bush's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq."

(Note that those wars are always "Bush's wars" or "Republican wars" here. Despite the fact that my entire federal representation at the time, Representative and Senators, were liberal Democrats, and 2 of the 3 voted for 2 out of 2 of those wars.)

So I would respond by saying that, yes, the figure I quoted was inclusive of both of the wars, and it still wasn't 50% of the budget.

They would say, "Oh, you're leaving out the VA."

I would respond by saying that the VA is not part of the military. It's its own separate gig. Department of Defense, and Department of Veterans Affairs. One not being subordinate to the other. (Which actually leads to some spectacular mis-coordination, as any vet who is mustering out can tell you. Not least the SEAL Six shooter who just left the Navy and then bitched he isn't eligible for post-service health care, when any VA counselor would be able to tell him otherwise.)

They would insist on putting the VA in there. Because "we wouldn't need that spending if it weren't for the military". A point I would always argue hugely: much VA health spending would simply be spent by other agencies even if the veteran clients in question had never served, because the majority of vets' health complaints are ordinary ailments that are not service connected, yet the VA still provides that care. But for purposes of argument even with the VA, the military is still not 50% of the budget. Not close.

Then more and more and more shit. The CIA, even though that is its own entirely separate agency not under DOD authority. Liberals consider it part of "the military". Facepalm.

The Department of Energy, even though the part of DOE that handles military nuclear matters is quite small relatively to DOE spending. They want to include all of DOE! You would not believe the stuff libtards want to lump in. Ag Department spending on making sure MRE meals are shelf stable. Unbelievable trifles.

But still, not 50% of the budget. No way, Ray.

Anyway, their final unrefutable trump card is, "Black programs. All the spending on wonder weapons that's not officially on budget."

I say, "But those black programs, unlike the others you've quoted like VA and CIA, are in fact under DOD. They're not listed as what they are, but there are program line items there which cover black world RD and black world procurement."

The response would be the superior smile. "Oh. That's what _you_ claim. There's a whole secret budget in parallel that we are never made privy to."

For Pete's sake. I give up. You literally cannot argue rationally with a liberal.


Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2013 07:27 AM (gqT4g)

63 Hey OSP! Can Amy Lynn come and fix me breakfast?

I am damn hungry.


Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 07:30 AM (53z96)

64 62 Torquewrench,


For Pete's sake. I give up. You literally cannot argue rationally with a liberal.


pyrotechnically OTOH.....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:30 AM (LRFds)

65

DAY 112

1,348 to go (1,423 to Inauguration Day 2017)


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2013 07:31 AM (48jWE)

66 Try viewing the movies/television appearances of those folks as video applications done by people who will be begging us heros of "the revolution" to take them on as servants in the aftermath.
Hmm, shall I have serving wench Hathaway on a big feathered fan or feeding me grapes and such?

Posted by: teej at February 25, 2013 07:31 AM (4Zmpq)

67 @62: You are a far stronger person than I could hope to be. Within about six seconds, I'd be looking for some quicklime and a shovel so I could have some quiet.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 25, 2013 07:33 AM (1ml8s)

68 66 Teej,

eh....I'll send them forth as refugees to poison our enemies...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:33 AM (LRFds)

69
Oh, and I read a book last night instead of watching that crap, so the next election we lose is all my fault or something.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 25, 2013 07:04 AM (hO8IJ)


I beat all of you, I got drunk.

But since Amy Lynn isn't going to fix me breakfast I have to go look for what I have.

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 07:34 AM (53z96)

70 69 Vic,

I do have to admit I probably would have been tempted to drink had I watched I was thinking..."what would I use to drive me up the wall at gitmo?" and by golly Lt Worf awards presenter and Argo wins the world actually rank high...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:36 AM (LRFds)

71 Read this tweet, then tell me "the masses" disagree with us because we watch the wrong HBO shows and insufficiently quote Ke$ha.

https://twitter.com/Forbespaula/status/306012546614312962


And in the checkout at Kroger yesterday, I was informed that Kim Kardashian had her clump of parasitic cells intentionally implanted so she could get an "emergency divorce" which helps her to dodge a $22M lawsuit alleging her 9-week marriage to the other millionaire dude was a scam to get big TV/magazine payouts.

Too sick to be saved.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 25, 2013 07:37 AM (hO8IJ)

72 "But still, not 50% of the budget. No way, Ray."

Although technically not all in the same basket, it's hard to argue that the DoD, VA and the entire intellegence community aren't part of a universe separate from social services and other government spending.

The position that Mitt took during the election that we need to maintain current spending or even raise defense budgets was wrong.

Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2013 07:37 AM (ZDsRL)

73 71 Ms Radish,

yeah it's a wonderful idea that our nation is led by the preferred agents of folk I wouldn't trust to petsit my dead dog....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:38 AM (LRFds)

74 Huh. Mrs. North just called. My son lost a tooth and she doesn't know if it is a deciduous or a permanent one.

Innnnteresting...

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 07:39 AM (0iDjO)

75 "It seems to me that giving money and attention to a group of people who
have consistently mocked and vilified you at every opportunity is not
much different than a woman going back to a wife-beater."

This is why I went cold turkey on movies and TV.

I fed that beast lavishly for many years. I was an avid moviegoer and TV watcher. But then I finally woke up one day and said, "Holy cow, these people hate my very existence! What am I doing handing them money?"

For me the breaking point was the LA riots in the Nineties.

Affluent liberals in Hollyweird believe, with the absolute _ex cathedra_ certainty of a cardinal at the Council of Trent, that "we should all rely on the police to protect us," and that no one should have privately owned guns.

Well, when LA exploded in lethal violence on a mass scale, the Hollyweird types _were_ protected by LAPD. The cops fell back to defensive perimeters around places like Beverly Hills. It was the ordinary working class Joes and Janes of LA, who didn't live in tony neighborhoods, that were completely abandoned to their fate by the cops.

And yet every night I would see these polished prats who've never faced any real risk in their lives, preaching fervently about how those Joes and Janes should have their ability for self-defense stripped away.

Steam jets. Ears. Some assembly required.

Anyway, I said, "I'm done with this. Done." And I quit going to the movies, and quit watching entertainment TV (still watch the occasional science or history show when I can find it on line). Cancelled cable. Threw my TV in the trash. I cannot tell you how HUGELY GOOD it feels to no longer feed that beast.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2013 07:41 AM (gqT4g)

76 72 Jwest,

hey guy you're bang on shut it all down....

no seriously nuke all defense spending besides I'm sure we cause all the world angst with our spending....

You know we'll even throw NASA in there since I mean after all aside from its noble Muslim outreach is just there to piss off noble aliens and such....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

~1.03 Trillion....

so "you've knocked out the deficit" by nuking all that...

*poof* it's gone now.....

and then within 5 years all OTHER discretionary spending needs to go so Dept of AG can keep increasing foodstamps etc etc etc...

yeah I'm sure that EPA having its dick up industry's ass is in no way responsible for any part of the budget crunch....nor is letting ~50% of citizens off the hook for income tax....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:43 AM (LRFds)

77 Oh, and the next time I'm sent to "the barrel", this is the barrel I'm going to.
Heh.
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/213370

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 25, 2013 07:44 AM (hO8IJ)

78 Oh geez, it's not that they disagree with us because you don't watch their shows. It's that half of the electorate in this country are overgrown children, and whether you want to educate them or beat them, you have to know who they are and what they think. Hollywood gives us their Playbook, wide open for our perusal. Stupid to not use it.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 07:45 AM (ZshNr)

79 78 lincolnTF,

watching their shit without having any exertive control is akin to me of trying to stop a train by leaping in front of it....

no offense but their playbook is pretty apparent I read Alinsky

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:47 AM (LRFds)

80 #71 Radish, this is why they are not "low info voters" but "WRONG info voters." Anyone who can master the details of that Kardashian mess is able to learn the relationship between Bill Ayers and Barack Obama, as well as the history of Ayers radical past.

Someone who can understand the intricacies of Hollywood contracts and divorce settlements can master asic budgeting, if they wish to.

The problem is they do not, because the stuff of government is drily presented on cable channels without glam clothing or handsome stars.

Celebrity and glam life-styles are what these people care about, but they are not necessarily low IQ. They are CHOOSING to spend their time learning trivial stuff about Hollywood rather than their government.

A good research program would find out WHY.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 25, 2013 07:47 AM (GoIUi)

81 #62

My counter would be, "If you believe that, what makes you think the rest of the numbers bear any resemblance to reality? How much are entitlements really eating to buy elections? How much are we really giving other countries in aid? The bigger the government gets the harder it becomes to know where all the bits are going."

Posted by: epobirs at February 25, 2013 07:48 AM (kcfmt)

82 Good for you. None of us are so important that it makes onebit of difference if we watch or not. But proudly walling oneself off from the most powerful mediums in communication serves no purpose either, except maybe individual sanity. I gave up being "upset" with Hollywood years ago. They couldn't bother/shock me now if hey tried.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 07:50 AM (ZshNr)

83 Vic,

Saw lots of Sanford for Congress signs.

Please tell me that there is a better choice1

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 07:51 AM (GsoHv)

84 "And presenting tonight's big award... President Michael Jackson's beard, the faaaaaabulous Mee Shelllll!!!!!"

Posted by: Thorvald at February 25, 2013 07:51 AM (1V6Pv)

85 Michael Behenna update:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/byasmc7

Posted by: Thorvald at February 25, 2013 07:52 AM (1V6Pv)

86 Greetings, Barrel-Sleepers.

It's Monday and we're still screwed, I see. You can't even watch the Oscars without Her Royal Thighness intruding (not that I did, I watched a documentary on the Airbus 380 after the Rush "Time Machine 2011" concert on Palladia channel).

SNAFU.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 25, 2013 07:52 AM (+z4pE)

87 83 CBD,

No kurt S, Dana Lush et al have convinced me...to win in today's environ Sanfordoza is perfect....

f*cks anything that moves, betrays his vows, abandons his post on a whim, supports increased welfare spending as 'Christian humanitarian outreach' and was hustled by a 5th rate Argentinian celebrity....

"Sanfordoza 2016!"

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:54 AM (LRFds)

88 WHY
Perhaps to live vicariously through what they're watching.
A bit of escapism is good for all of us. Total escapism in it's many forms keeps you from ever having to face up to the world as it is.

Posted by: teej at February 25, 2013 07:54 AM (IyoLR)

89 84 Thorvald,

that's no moon, that's our national mother

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:54 AM (LRFds)

90 All the other candidates are unknowns. I know he is a conservative even if he can't keep his zipper up.

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 07:54 AM (53z96)

91 "Oh geez, it's not that they disagree with us because you don't watch
their shows."

Not at all. You've neatly reversed my view here. That view being:

I don't watch their shows because they disagree with us.

Watching their shows lavishly lines their pockets, and I have no desire to lavishly line the pockets of people who disagree with us on damn near every substantive issue.

"Hollywood gives us
their Playbook, wide open for our perusal. Stupid to not use it."

Except that playbook is inherently toxic. It elevates the emotive over the rational. It prizes form over substance. It celebrates falsity as truth. It thinks the imaginary is more important than the real. If you call plays from that book, with good intentions, it'll end up corrupting and ruining your own efforts in the long run.

Entertainment culture IS liberalism. Simply in a more distilled, concentrated form.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2013 07:55 AM (gqT4g)

92 Michelle {Go Fuck Yourself you self absorbed lobster murdering fat assed ugly bug eyed moe wig wearing america hating cunt} Obama did a magnificent impersonation of James Earl Jones from Conan last night.


Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at February 25, 2013 07:55 AM (+OTLF)

93 #82 Seriously, lincolnf, what value is it if I DO watch? I work from home, so no water-cooler conversation is required. I can read on the internet who won. (No surprises in any category.) I do not attend movies but usually, if one is good, will watch it when it gets to DVD. (The last one which made that hurdle was "The King's Speech.")

I DO NOT LIKE THOSE PEOPLE. THEY DO NOT LIKE ME.

I know their playbook: Make movies in which Western civilization is shown to be decadent, while extolling the Third World. All villains are conservatives, businessmen, and Christians. History will be rewritten when deemed necessary to forward the leftist agenda. Glorify dem presidents, crucify Republican presidents.

I fail to see how watching the Oscars or any other Hollywood production is going to give me any more tips from their playbook.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 25, 2013 07:56 AM (GoIUi)

94 72 -

Lots of double negatives in there, chum. It's apparent from your second part where you stand, but a lot of people aren't so clear on this.

When I heard the DoD was going to have to lay off 800,000 civilian employees, my first and ONLY thought was "why in the world does the DoD need 800,000 employees?"

Put rifles in their hands, or yes, lay them off. Permanently.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2013 07:56 AM (BeSEI)

95 So, is this the way for Obama to continue in the White House without an actual coup?

Michelle Obama running in 2016? Is it doable? Why the increase in exposure? (yeah I know the media's been shilling for her for 4 years but now she's cooperating and putting herself out there more and more.

This Oscar thingy is just an example of what's in store for the next 4.

First Black President . . . check.

Now for first Female President. You know the Media will go all out for that and Hillary's looking a little . . . worn. If you know what I mean.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 25, 2013 07:57 AM (qyv02)

96 90 Vic,

pretty much I guess...of course given the good old boy network of Democrats dressed as GOPers in that state...

I may sit out politics as a donor down in carolina del Sur this trip or focus on the ArkLaTex....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 07:57 AM (LRFds)

97 Did I dream it or did last night's Academy Awards end with Seth "Spanky" McFarland singing for a be-wigged Stymie to "show us your boobies"?

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at February 25, 2013 07:58 AM (m2IdD)

98 "What branch of service are the uniformed people in the background?"


It looks to be, L to R - Marines, AF, Marines, Army, Army, Navy. Tough to tell and I don't want to click on the vid for ahhh....personal reasons.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 07:58 AM (yCvxi)

99 Someone who can understand the intricacies of Hollywood contracts and
divorce settlements can master asic budgeting, if they wish to.


Why would they wish to? The social and economic rewards are greater if they watch TV all day.

But proudly walling oneself off from the most powerful mediums in
communication serves no purpose either, except maybe individual sanity.


Are you going to put a roof over my head and feed me? Then you should probably STFU mocking me about preserving what's left of my sanity.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 25, 2013 07:59 AM (hO8IJ)

100 Somebody needs to do the logistics for the military. My dad, when he was still in, was studying how to get supplies to hundreds of thousands of soldiers in the middle of the Persian gulf.

Turns out that his work was necessary, since we went to war there in 91.

My concern is that it's these kinds of jobs that will go poof.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 07:59 AM (0iDjO)

101 i am surprised they werent wearing brown shirts

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at February 25, 2013 07:59 AM (+OTLF)

102 Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 07:54 AM (53z96)

If he wins it will probably be his last stop. I can't imagine him in a race for the senate.

But...as long as he is reliably conservative.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2013 08:00 AM (GsoHv)

103 Well, when LA exploded in lethal violence on a mass scale, the Hollyweird types _were_ protected by LAPD. The cops fell back to defensive perimeters around places like Beverly Hills. It was the ordinary working class Joes and Janes of LA, who didn't live in tony neighborhoods, that were completely abandoned to their fate by the cops.

Beverly Hills is a separate city with it's own police force which is paid for by their very high property taxes.

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 25, 2013 08:01 AM (6J6x7)

104 Well, morons have a nice day. I will be stuck in Continuing Education, aka barrier to entry for new brokers, all day.

At least I'll be with friends and the teacher is funny as shit.

BBL.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 25, 2013 08:01 AM (wR+pz)

105 #95 I have been saying this for over a month. Her profile is being raised and she is being given semi-official types of appearances.

The LIV will think it is swell.

I am hoping I am paranoid, but I don't think I am.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 25, 2013 08:01 AM (GoIUi)

106 The idiots get their "news" from Jon Stewart for pete's sake. 52% of this country is stuck on stupid. That's enough to give us the government we have.

Posted by: Case at February 25, 2013 08:01 AM (vVmp0)

107 Idk, I see a wig like that on a 6-footer with only vaguely female proportions.... consorting with a known pervert: the conclusion is inescapable.

Posted by: Thorvald at February 25, 2013 08:01 AM (1V6Pv)

108 They either have some sort of wild plan or are using utter insanity to tread water.

I think their plan involves upgrading the digs for a lot of the people living in the hinterlands and a dash of Nork Refugee planning as well.

Its probably easier to build a city than to get some of the rural Chinese to accept it and move there. Rural people live out in the boonies for a reason...

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 25, 2013 08:03 AM (/gHaE)

109 Heather, you have email

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:04 AM (0iDjO)

110 according to defense dot gov, DoD has about 450,000 employees

http://www.defense.gov/about/dod101.aspx

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 25, 2013 08:04 AM (8sCoq)

111 The response would be the superior smile. "Oh. That's what _you_ claim. There's a whole secret budget in parallel that we are never made privy to."


That is when you ask them why would obama lie to us?

Posted by: cicero skip at February 25, 2013 08:04 AM (3m9Uc)

112 I did not know this.
The article does not mention, however, that the people in Africa who supplied other people to the slave trade were typically Black African Muslims. The Luo tribe, for example...
The ethos, "We're Muzzies and you suck!", seems to have been operative right along.

Posted by: Thorvald at February 25, 2013 08:04 AM (1V6Pv)

113 Cory booker will be our next president. Lauren erg just got out of the way for him to move up.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:05 AM (0iDjO)

114 I see Tom Harkin has an opinion piece where he wants to raise the minimum wage higher yet.
And look, it comes with a poll that one could vote in...
if one were so inclined.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/by7l5fv

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 25, 2013 08:05 AM (coJww)

115 103 Beverly Hills is a separate city with it's own police force which is paid for by their very high property taxes.
Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 25, 2013 08:01 AM (6J6x7)

IIRC, the BHPD announced before the Rodney King verdict was reached that they would essentially shoot to kill any miscreants who engaged in criminal activity in their jurisdiction. All was quiet, unlike at Florence and Normandie...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2013 08:05 AM (48jWE)

116 My concern is that it's these kinds of jobs that will go poof.

Its the age of Aquarius man...peace, love, dope. Just say no to war.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 25, 2013 08:05 AM (/gHaE)

117 110 Jones in CO,

they are counting the contractors, the civillians drawing from other pay pools on DoD facilities as base...etc etc etc


of course you know my feelings on "Free Shit for All!" by Mirror Universe John Boner

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:07 AM (LRFds)

118 The phrase I find myself using the most with LIV/Libs is, "That's not true."

Any more, I torn as to what to do about my friends who think they know what's going on: let them continue to think wrong things, or try to show them there's a lot more to it and they're not being told what they should know in order to be well-informed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 25, 2013 08:07 AM (+z4pE)

119 When you hear someone in the street parroting the NYT editorial board, they generally didn't get it direct from the NYT, it came from the entertainment they watch, whether sitcoms or movies. It's not a fun front to fight on, so I don't blame people for opting out, but it's necessary to know why they think what hey think.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:07 AM (ZshNr)

120 @113 Booker's supposed to be an Afro-American, right?

Posted by: Thorvald at February 25, 2013 08:09 AM (1V6Pv)

121 119 lincolntf,

no I'm pretty sure using as the Swede in "hell on Wheels" said immoral mathematics you are going to have me arrive at the conclusion that some of Horrywood needs some dental work done with hickory ax handles....

and I sorta know this already

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:09 AM (LRFds)

122 "no seriously nuke all defense spending besides I'm sure we cause all the world angst with our spending...."

Yes, that was exactly what I was saying in my comment.

Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2013 08:10 AM (ZDsRL)

123
I
hate it when you forget your smokes, start fumbling in hope between the seat
and console, and pull out a three month old fry.

Posted by: early cuyler at February 25, 2013 08:10 AM (zOrVA)

124 #108

I'm most fascinated by the ghost city in Africa. A new age of colonization?

Posted by: epobirs at February 25, 2013 08:11 AM (kcfmt)

125 122 JWest,

Pretty much in allying yourself with the one area the donks love the scissors at you're empowering their crash dpeth to avoid the depth charges dive on Mil spending which...no mockery I am preparing for....

in the grand scheme of things DoD spending is not ahsitorically high at all spending 46% on entitlements just counting medicare and soc sec is....add in another 800 billion in foodtsmps...

fuck it I don't want to argue it anymore.

Cut defense to the bone...that way if it comes to it I won't be fighting people I love.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:13 AM (LRFds)

126 I look at all these vocal, passionate ninnies on the left and I wonder how they can all be having the same delusions at the same time.

How can they all be so goddamned wrong?

It makes me continually re-assess my own assumptions.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:13 AM (0iDjO)

127 126 Truman,

they uh have a script...and Bush refusing to fight them fucked us since it emboldened the script leftward at a faster clip.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:14 AM (LRFds)

128 "It's not a fun front to fight on, so I don't blame people for opting out, but it's necessary to know why they think what hey think."


So you're saying you need to watch overtly liberal Hollywood so you can discover the media is liberal?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 08:14 AM (yCvxi)

129 Booker is black but looks and speaks white.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:15 AM (0iDjO)

130 Good morning Rons. Horde seems kinda surly this morning. I'm still smiling from the ONT. After an almost 2 month absence, Tammy al-Thor was back. Slowly healing up and regaining her strength she says. Always good to have friends back.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 25, 2013 08:16 AM (2o/UP)

131 No, burn the witch, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that not watching them doesn't do any good.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:16 AM (ZshNr)

132
50 Looks like I have a foot of snow coming tonight,,,pushed by 35-40mph winds at times.
Oh yeah, possibly starting with a rain snow mix. Great. A sheet of ice to freeze my explorer's doors shut.
Good. Times.


Just leave your doors open overnight -- problem solved!

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 25, 2013 08:17 AM (tOkJB)

133 128 Burn the Witch,

yup pretty much...I know it is a genuine mystery and all...

see to me they just want us to be masochists....

which is okay but I'd sincerely rather fuck a light socket.

The only way to fix Horryweird is to spend billions I don't have or engage in felonies or an insurgency

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:17 AM (LRFds)

134 131 lincolntf,

which is saying that thus we MUST watch them...or something.

The divorce when it happens will be over this game.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:17 AM (LRFds)

135 Or you could just make better jokes than the TV writers, make the masses want to be on your side. It's not about the philosophy of Hollywood, it's how that philosophy is propagated.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:18 AM (ZshNr)

136 130 BC1981,

yeah I was in a good mood yesterday did you notice?

Tammy Al-Thor, Saturday news that Rum Mastress of Dark was doing great...

then Debbie Lush scolded me that my inability to watch the oscars is why western civ is doomed....

gonna glum out now eh?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:19 AM (LRFds)

137 All you people calling for defense spending cuts must have missed my posts. All this Armageddon BS is Obama rhetoric to get the press to shit on Republicans for him cutting the shit out of needed defense spending while leaving crap like bases in VT who hates the military but loves them sum fucking tax dollars.

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 08:20 AM (53z96)

138 No Sven' there's no 'must' involved. Just differences in approach.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:20 AM (ZshNr)

139 Insurgency time. But you've got the wrong target.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:20 AM (0iDjO)

140 135 lincolntf,

we do make better jokes than Horrywood, the left won't let the right on the soapbox and frankly is not running a profit driven business model anymore...

and YOU are intoning that we must not continue to try passive ngative feedback response to their revenue stream....

don't worry I'll never start the big brawl but if it comes I plan to test Paul Krugman's notion that the broken window fallacy is a fallacy.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:21 AM (LRFds)

141 Now, due to this random act, 2.5 million obese kids are going to be scarfing down uninspected meat and squirting diarrhea all over our beautiful countryside.


Dysentary. 2013's #1 weight loss program.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2013 08:21 AM (ipBC8)

142 What's the news about Rum?

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:21 AM (0iDjO)

143 You're projecting a whole lot of stuff onto my posts Sven, and largely missing the point.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:22 AM (ZshNr)

144 139 Truman,

eh maybe...

there is an Academic/Lawyer/Entertainment triangle that is more dangerous than the "Military-Industrial complex" ever was....

on the way to Ohio wife was doing homework on federalist 6....

out of a class of 40 online with ~20% soldiers one person picked Federalist 6 for research on understanding rhetoric.....

my wife.

We're fucked because people don't give a shit about why we are who we are.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:24 AM (LRFds)

145 I think Lincoln is saying that you don't harm them by not watching them, so watch it if you want to.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:24 AM (0iDjO)

146 You're projecting a whole lot of stuff onto my posts Sven, and largely missing the point.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:22 AM (ZshNr)


Is your point to irritate the fuck out of me? If so, mission accomplished.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2013 08:25 AM (UYfkz)

147 Hey OSP, wifey is asking when the sequel to Amy Lynn is coming out.

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 08:25 AM (53z96)

148 The target we should be insurging is the GOP.

We need a real opposition party.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:26 AM (0iDjO)

149 143 lincolntf,

well given that I am obviously the special needs kid on the board this AM why don't you break down monosyllabically what precisely I am to do or what I will learn watching the whores with no exertive influence please....

maybe I missed the genius point.

Ace is funnier than Bill Moron by far, and when on his A game better than the Daily Show....if Horrywood was based on profitability and merit Steyn would have a show...

so explain it to me slowly since I don't get it.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:26 AM (LRFds)

150 Good for you, Captain. Now saddle up that horse and charge those Hollywood windmills, they look ready for a fight.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:27 AM (ZshNr)

151 "I'm saying that not watching them doesn't do any good.


Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:16 AM (ZshNr)"



If they're not going to entertain me when I tune in, and I will only be subjected to ridicule, condescension, and insults, there is no good to tuning in. It's their job to encourage me to watch.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 08:27 AM (yCvxi)

152 Well, I'm gonna keep my tv. There are certain programs and channels I want to reward. I'll even shop at the advertisers stores.

Everyone should be pushing for a la carte cable pricing. You *should* have the freedom to decide who gets rewarded and who gets punished. It seems like something the Republican party should embrace.

But I expect they'll roll over and play dead, since that's what they do.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 25, 2013 08:27 AM (feFL6)

153 "The age of Aquarius" goes back to the Big Lie,, "you will be as gods"

Some here (help me out Thorvald, others) can put it better but I can easily see it as those who deny God's existence bringing about a man made 1000 year millennium where (see Isiah) "They will beat their swords into plowshares" and "The lion will lay down with the lamb."

Of course, the folks at the "top" of this "movement" just use this hope on the part of the masses as a way to power and riches.
They. Are. Evil.

Posted by: teej at February 25, 2013 08:28 AM (kGDRz)

154 148 truman,

uh yeah....good luck chuck.

You'll note I am no longer strenuously objecting to blowing up the GOP but do the math on what comes next while you beat up the one side acting as a brake at all on anything.

Old friend of mine I hadn't seen in 2 decades drifted from JFK donk to TeaPartier...

he says I am a starry eyes optomist based on my blind patriotism when i say we have about an 8-12 yr window tops to defuse the bomb.

He feels that Mitt whom he was not a huge fan of was our forlorn Hope and the game is in the final 4-8 years now.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:28 AM (LRFds)

155 We all agree the GOP is a dying animal. It should be academic to overtake them.

It will take a long time. It will take diligence. But it's almost fool-proof.

When people like us are in charge of the money and the infrastructure, we will be in a position to capitalize on the counter-media narratives and so forth.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:28 AM (0iDjO)

156 You don't get Sven' that it's not a HUGE eleventy deal whether you watch or not. But everything is a huge, just short of civil war issue, right? Get over yourself.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:29 AM (ZshNr)

157 151 Burn the Witch,

hear, hear as I said last night...if I want shit on I can go to a farm and get it for free....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:29 AM (LRFds)

158 Good for you, Captain. Now saddle up that horse and charge those Hollywood windmills, they look ready for a fight.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:27 AM (ZshNr)


I think razing a public school might address the root of the problem.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2013 08:29 AM (UYfkz)

159
83 Vic,

Saw lots of Sanford for Congress signs.

Please tell me that there is a better choice1


Fred or Lamont?

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 25, 2013 08:30 AM (tOkJB)

160 156 lincolntf,

oh okay given that I let you guys suck off the whores uncommented on last night until people started fanboying Debbie Lush acting as though I *am* to blame for our "losing the culture" in not watching yeah I guess you got me tiger....

I thought you had a fucking plan or some understanding of how to make gain watching the toilet bowl it just turns out you're saying "oh uh nothing matters" on it...

yeah man deep...real fucking deep dude.

*flush*

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:31 AM (LRFds)

161 and pull out a three month old fry.

Did it light?

Posted by: DaveA at February 25, 2013 08:31 AM (6YLIm)

162 Geeze sven, it's a little early for a flame war isn't it?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2013 08:32 AM (yCvxi)

163 So. It's one of those days. Sweet.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 25, 2013 08:32 AM (2o/UP)

164 Awww, poor Sven is up on the cross again. Do I not hate Hollywood enough or is it that I hate them in the wrong way?

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2013 08:32 AM (ZshNr)

165 158 captain hate,

probably more than you know...

one of the most powerful scenes in "Conspirata" about the fall of Cicero was when Marc Anthony and the other Caesarian followers who had been Catalinians dismantled a temple in 8 hours overnight.....

dismantling an unoccupied public school overnight using non explosive means would make a point.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:33 AM (LRFds)

166 164 lincolntf,

no Lincoln I think you're up on the corss tiger...

it is okay you read teenbeat still.

I'm down with that sport.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:33 AM (LRFds)

167 South Carolina doesn't have anybody better than Mark fucking Sanford to run? Fuck that shit. Nothing makes any sense any more.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2013 08:34 AM (UYfkz)

168 >>>and pull out a three month old fry.

How did you know it was 3 months old?

Posted by: Bigby's Paint-covered Hands at February 25, 2013 08:36 AM (3ZtZW)

169 Sven, I'm not talking about being activists putting pressure on the party from the outside. I'm talking about co-opting the beast for our own use.

We get access to the system that has been fucking America. And with that access, we grant access to conservative media and shut out the MFM.

We elect folks who will radically change the federal government to destroy the funding mechanisms of leftism and reinforce the values we hold dear.

But the first thing we need is access.

It may be too late. But it is definitely too late if we don't try.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:36 AM (0iDjO)

170 167 Captain Hate,

It's not that exactly. Vic can explain it better than I can but basically there is a power base in the SC GOP that are crossover donks. Sanford is favored by them b/c they don't want a harder conservative.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:36 AM (LRFds)

171 169 truman,

Truman you and I had long discussions last fall over the need for a PAC or two for change but I just don't see it working anymore. The sequester fight is interesting to me because 56% of the GOP wants taxes which they know will not help to "fix the sequester bomb."

I don't think US economic thought is based on any reality anymore, and as such we will need taught by the wreck.

I pray for a wreck versus a 70 year fall.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:38 AM (LRFds)

172 They also believe in aardvarks, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny. Not a view shared by high information voters.


Hey now, don't lump me in with those two posers!

Posted by: Large Dark Aardvark in the Park at February 25, 2013 08:42 AM (qqZuQ)

173 This is what the international Leninists did to the democrats starting in the mid 60s. And they did it. Here's The Great Society, here's the EPA, the NEA, the Dept of Energy, public employees unions, a professional bureaucrat class, marxists infesting every public university, ACORN and Planned Parenthood, Obama, Sotomayor, Kagan, Obamacare, gays marrying in the military, and so forth.

They co-opted the Democratic Party. They got access to the system and busted it out for their own needs.

We don't have 40 years to keep things the way they are. But we can move them back by beating them at their own game.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:43 AM (0iDjO)

174 172 Aardvark,

hey I believe in you....my last bender in El Paso I think you were 75 feet tall....and pink.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:43 AM (LRFds)

175 115 IIRC, the BHPD announced before the Rodney King verdict was reached that they would essentially shoot to kill any miscreants who engaged in criminal activity in their jurisdiction. All was quiet, unlike at Florence and Normandie...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


The day before the verdict, the LA city council ordered the police not to rush in to South Central at the first sign of unrest. They should have all been kicked out of office.

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 25, 2013 08:44 AM (6J6x7)

176 Whether we are the USSR or we are the EU, we need to have a conservative power base to rebuild western civilization.

We need to take the GOP.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:45 AM (0iDjO)

177 I guarantee if you asked any one of them what percentage of the budget is consumed by the military, they'd insist it was at least 50 and probably 75% ask "what's a percentage?". This country's too stupid to live.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 25, 2013 06:48 AM (zF6Iw)

********


Tweaked that a little for you.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 25, 2013 08:46 AM (qqZuQ)

178 173 Truman,

Truman we lost because we did not fight them over the 40 years, we never tried hard to stop them.

Trust me they are not gonna shrug and say "ok okay you the new hire we're gonna let you get your way there bud...we're uh gonna focus on the actual work of the institution while you start bending said work."

Try, hell I may bang the till for your PAC but I am not seeing a win.

If they had ANY fear EPA would not be playing the games it is playing and so openly colluding with the Watermelons using specious nicknamed e-mail accounts.

They have no fear because they will use the machine to thresh the wheat.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:46 AM (LRFds)

179 Sven that is exactly the kind of thing SC needs. Seperate those donks in R clothing from control of the state GOP.

Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:48 AM (0iDjO)

180 You're still thinking too short-term, Sven.

The EPA can do that because 1) they are funded by republicans in the house and 2) nobody who controls their funding would ever think of taking it away.

And why?

Because nobody we have the chance to vote for will go to Washington and do it.

And why is that?

Because those who control the state party from that candidate's state won't support such a candidate.

And why is that?

Because they are interested in making as few ripples as possible.

And why is that?

Because if they did make ripples, and they supported a loser, their leadership would be questioned. And they do not want their leadership questioned.

And why is that?

Because it is more lucrative (and more fun) for these people to just run their little country club than it is to affect necessary changes.


Posted by: Truman, schmuman at February 25, 2013 08:55 AM (WgEZw)

181 179 truman,

and Truman I am not patting you on the head you do have the right idea but it has to be state by state and it will cost...

basically one of the things my long lost contact said was 'there is no difference just a speed change' and he is correct hell we've all known this of the GOP going back to Bush 2000.

Anyway I am sincere I do wish you the best.

And LincolnTF I just reread the thread...I must have missed my martyr complex before our last two go 'rounds...

basically you're edging up to telling me and by "me" I mean people who shat on the Oscars "you don't matter in not watching" well ok point taken of course Seth waving his wang at you who did watch is him proving neither do you.

No personal offense meant and I am not "on the cross" bud.

It doesn't matter that I don't watch because too many of us do, and it also does not mean WW3 will break out because I don't watch I am not an idiot.

Given my retraint and deference and unwillingness to be a Mcveigh shit be upon him it means the cold civil war continues and Dana Lush is trying to be on both sides.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:57 AM (LRFds)

182 It's not that exactly. Vic can explain it better
than I can but basically there is a power base in the SC GOP that are
crossover donks. Sanford is favored by them b/c they don't want a harder
conservative.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 08:36 AM (LRFds)


Actually the Repub party bosses here are fighting him tooth and nail.. They are also fighting the people trying to primary Graham tooth and nail.

That should tell you h8ters something.

I really don't give a shit that he porked the SA babe.

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 08:59 AM (53z96)

183 182 Vic,

I think their "fighting him is Kabuki theater" vic but I'm not down with you anymore I'll defer to your on the site wisdom.

My displeasure with Sanford is not because of his Hot Latina whoopie cushion BTW I just think he was not on pace to outperform Nikki is all.

I do hope to buy you and Ms Vic dinner over the two or so years we'll be there...a SC moron meetup would be a ball.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2013 09:02 AM (LRFds)

184 Didn't watch the Oscars, but then I can say that pretty much every year. I've ceased to care about movies, which is a shame because they were very important to me at one point.

Spent most of the day fighting the flu. Oh wonderful.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 25, 2013 09:02 AM (xjpRj)

185 The media moguls are suppose to be starting something new this week in a losing attempt to stop people from downloading their crap. ISP's will now send out warning letters to bit torrent users. LOL

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 25, 2013 09:05 AM (6J6x7)

186 Holy crap, Arthur C. Clarke's "Childhood's End" is now on Kindle--for $3!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 25, 2013 09:10 AM (xjpRj)

187 Damn, Monty and Ben have both dumped!

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2013 09:12 AM (53z96)

188 They also believe in aardvarks, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny.
I thought aardvarks were fer realz?

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at February 25, 2013 09:43 AM (hhsyr)






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