George Washington's Birthday

George Washington was born 281 years ago today.

Read George Washington's Farewell Address if you haven't already.

Posted by: BenK at 10:12 AM



Comments

1 Yep, the real GW birthday and not that fake "President's Day" BS.

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 10:14 AM (53z96)

2 Happy Birthday George!

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:14 AM (8sCoq)

3 But he had teh slavez!!!

Posted by: Jaws at February 22, 2013 10:15 AM (4I3Uo)

4 I cannot tell a lie. This president you have is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable tyrannical momzer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2013 10:15 AM (lgjuc)

5 George Washington is, to me, the Original American. We would all do well to emulate him in our daily lives, and as we work to recapture America from her government.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:16 AM (8sCoq)

6 That is some more history that is more myth than reality. Of course they can't teach a lot of history about Washington and Jefferson in one paragraph while devoting multiple chapters to the suffering of blacks and womyn in America.

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 10:16 AM (53z96)

7 Another dead white man who didn't want to pay his taxes but wanted to own slaves as long as they were brown people.
America will never progress toward more correct thinking as long as the false saints of a dead and regressive past are held onto.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 22, 2013 10:17 AM (jCQ+I)

8 Don't believe the hype. He only had 17 dicks.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson, Right-Wing Extremist at February 22, 2013 10:18 AM (H3SCv)

9 Abe Lincoln wore George Washington pajamas

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:19 AM (8sCoq)

10 Ted Kennedy was also born today. He would have been 80.

Mary Jo Kopechne would have been 71.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 22, 2013 10:20 AM (iAUf+)

11 >>>But he had teh slavez!!!

Slavery gets shit done.

Posted by: Teh Jews at February 22, 2013 10:20 AM (3ZtZW)

12 Another dead white man who didn't want to pay his taxes but wanted to own slaves as long as they were brown people.

America will never progress toward more correct thinking as long as
the false saints of a dead and regressive past are held onto.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 22, 2013 10:17 AM (jCQ+I)



What school do you teach at?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 10:20 AM (1Jaio)

13 10 Ted Kennedy was also born today. He would have been 80.

Mary Jo Kopechne would have been 71.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 22, 2013 10:20 AM (iAUf+)


Ted Kennedy wasn't born; he was poured out of a vaginal-shaped cocktail shaker.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2013 10:21 AM (lgjuc)

14 That can't be Hairy Mary Clogsthedrain. That post is devoid of ESL spelling and grammar.

Posted by: Jaws at February 22, 2013 10:22 AM (4I3Uo)

15 The president chopped down Reggie's cherry tree.

Posted by: Fritz at February 22, 2013 10:23 AM (UzPAd)

16 >Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 22, 2013 10:17 AM (jCQ+I)


You're under the impression you're funny in some ironic way, right?

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:23 AM (8sCoq)

17 Ted Kennedy wasn't born; he was poured out of a vaginal-shaped cocktail shaker.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2013 10:21 AM (lgjuc)


Well, add another scar to my soul thanks to AoS.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 10:24 AM (da5Wo)

18 The modern GOP would do well to read sections 36-42.

Posted by: Virginian at February 22, 2013 10:24 AM (XwEBp)

19
I interviewed him shortly after Valley Forge, back when I was only in my 250s. He died too young.

Posted by: Larry King at February 22, 2013 10:24 AM (zgHLA)

20 George Washington's address? Ain't nobody got time for that!

Posted by: Sweet Michelle at February 22, 2013 10:24 AM (rL/DD)

21 I liked that Washington wasn't always sure of how things would turn out, and in fact so many times they were beyond bleak and he still fought on. He had a lot of qualities worth emulating.

Posted by: Heralder at February 22, 2013 10:24 AM (+xmn4)

22 Happy birthday, President Washington!

I'm sorry that our most recent possessors of that title have done the country you helped found such monumental disservice. Some of us still remember what you helped institute, and we're not about to go quietly into the night.

Let it burn, but only because ashes make a nice fertile ground from which to rebuild.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 10:25 AM (4df7R)

23 George who? Better leave him for the cables.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at February 22, 2013 10:25 AM (zgHLA)

24 George Washington's address? Ain't nobody got time for that!
________
He doesn't have an address per se - he lives at the Washington Monument.

Posted by: Joey Pluggz at February 22, 2013 10:26 AM (SkFDg)

25 By the way, Hugh Hewitt was also born today in 1956.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 22, 2013 10:27 AM (iAUf+)

26 >>>poured out of a vaginal-shaped cocktail shaker.

I am not finding this on Crate and Barrel. Checking Sharper Image now...

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 22, 2013 10:27 AM (3ZtZW)

27 Ted Kennedy wasn't born; he was poured out of a vaginal-shaped cocktail shaker.

I admit I can easily imagine the Kennedy family owning a cocktail shaker like that, if it was expensively made.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 10:27 AM (c9rJ5)

28 When I was little the family visited Mount Vernon a few times (Mom loved history and colonial era stuff). It seems like a beautiful place to live.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:27 AM (8sCoq)

29 THE BALLS ON THAT MAN!

said in an admirable way, of course.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at February 22, 2013 10:27 AM (kqqGm)

30 12 What school do you teach at?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 10:20 AM (1Jaio)

Night school at Patrice Lumumba University (he said "night" school; get it?!)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2013 10:28 AM (lgjuc)

31 Since he's really old and stuff, we should let somone else be borned on that day.

Posted by: Meggie Mac at February 22, 2013 10:28 AM (UrENZ)

32 George Washington's address? Irrelevant. It's, like, more than two hundred years old! It's all confusing and shit; no one can understand it.

Posted by: Ezra Klein at February 22, 2013 10:29 AM (4df7R)

33 That address was like, a hundred years ago. Nobody knows what that even means anymore.

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 22, 2013 10:29 AM (3ZtZW)

34 And the Washington Monument is the tallest free-standing masonry building in the world

I went up to the top once- very tiny room, spectacular view

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:29 AM (8sCoq)

35 dammit

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 22, 2013 10:29 AM (3ZtZW)

36 George had dogged persistence and an ability to inspire men to make heavy sacrifices. Today he would be considered a reactionary. What a magnificent bastard...

Posted by: joncelli at February 22, 2013 10:30 AM (RD7QR)

37 34 And the Washington Monument is the tallest free-standing masonry building in the world

I went up to the top once- very tiny room, spectacular view
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:29 AM (8sCoq)

Free-standing Masonry. ISWYDT.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2013 10:30 AM (lgjuc)

38 dammit
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 22, 2013 10:29 AM (3ZtZW)


Heh heh heh...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 10:31 AM (4df7R)

39 By the way, Hugh Hewitt was also born today in 1956.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 22, 2013 10:27 AM (iAUf+)

You know who that benefits?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2013 10:31 AM (DrWcr)

40 >>>Today he would be considered a reactionary

He was not a Marxist arguing for ideas last updated in 1950.

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 22, 2013 10:31 AM (3ZtZW)

41 "to guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism..."

Love that line.

Posted by: Mainah at February 22, 2013 10:32 AM (659DL)

42 > an ability to inspire men to make heavy sacrifices. Today he would be considered a reactionary.


Hell- he'd probably be brought up on charges because of the deplorable conditions at the Valley Forge bivouac

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:32 AM (8sCoq)

43 I liked that Washington wasn't always sure of how things would turn out, and in fact so many times they were beyond bleak and he still fought on. He had a lot of qualities worth emulating.

Yes. He and a lot of others.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 10:32 AM (c9rJ5)

44 George had balls. Big uns. Truly the father of our country. Too bad the country has turned into a spoiled, lazy, dishonest, and corrupt adolescent pos. George needs to come back and kick some ass, but alas, if he did he would be jailed withoug due process for being a domestic terrorist, or killed in a drone strike.

Posted by: maddogg at February 22, 2013 10:32 AM (OlN4e)

45 He was not a Marxist arguing for ideas last updated in 1950 that have failed every single time they've been tried.

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 22, 2013 10:31 AM (3ZtZW)



FIFY

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 10:32 AM (4df7R)

46 Former presidents named George are all class.

Former presidents named Bill or Jimmy and Barry are total narcissistic dicks who are retarded.

Please sign petition to have this engraved in the stairwell of the Washington Monument.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at February 22, 2013 10:33 AM (b5QQF)

47 George Washington.

Killing you in your sleep on Christmas!

Posted by: EC at February 22, 2013 10:33 AM (GQ8sn)

48 Flesch Kincaid's at 18+

Dude gave a speech with grad school level chops.

Obama and most recent presidents? 9th Grade level.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 22, 2013 10:34 AM (/gHaE)

49 And now we have this trash in the White House. How the fuck did we fall so far so fast? Thank you, Lyndon.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:34 AM (wbmaj)

50

And the Washington Monument is the tallest free-standing masonry building in the world

It's still closed from that freak earthquake from last year. I've been driving by it every day this week enroute to one of the problem sites. It's pretty damned imposing. If it were open, I'd have found the time to stop, and go up.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at February 22, 2013 10:34 AM (eyJh9)

51 47George Washington.

Killing you in your sleep on Christmas!
Posted by: EC at February 22, 2013 10:33 AM (GQ8sn) George was turning bad Hessians into good Hessians. Thats all.

Posted by: maddogg at February 22, 2013 10:34 AM (OlN4e)

52 Chester Alan Arthur.

The man had three first names, for crying out loud.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2013 10:34 AM (lgjuc)

53 Washington chopped down a cherry tree and somewhere in a forest hippies are weeping and wailing over it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 10:35 AM (1Jaio)

54 He's not on Facebook, and he's never Tweeted ANYTHING. How great can he be? Seriously?

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at February 22, 2013 10:35 AM (XvrTA)

55 George Washington conducting amphibious combat operations

http://is.gd/Qb3q55

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:35 AM (8sCoq)

56 I went up to the top once- very tiny room, spectacular view.

Did you see the Galaxy News Radio relay dish at the top?

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson, Right-Wing Extremist at February 22, 2013 10:35 AM (H3SCv)

57 53 Washington chopped down a cherry tree and somewhere in a forest hippies are weeping and wailing over it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 10:35 AM (1Jaio)

He stole America's cherry. Where's Mary Cloggendrain?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (lgjuc)

58 Hell- he'd probably be brought up on charges because of the deplorable conditions at the Valley Forge bivouac
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:32 AM (8sCoq)


And accused of war crimes for actually fighting to win.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (4df7R)

59 Ben K,

the nearest thing we've ever had to a "messiah" and frankly I am speaking to the real George not the 'Wooden Toothed Cherry Chopping and Popping Superhero."

I love him as I would my great-great grandfather had I had the chance despite the fact he'd have likely thought me of low account.

While his farewell address was masterful and wise I also cannot help but remind myself of his address to the officers of the Continental Army when they threatened to go Cromwell on their retarded Congress' ass.

He made his argument and the men were unmoved, so then after a sad silence he said, "Gentlemen, you will permit me to
put on my spectacles, for I have not only grown gray but almost blind in
the service of my country."


Made his remaining points looked at his now crying men and left in silence himself.

We don't build them like that anymore, but hey at least Al Franken can be a Senator.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (LRFds)

60 Martha Washington Monument? A 555 foot hole in the ground.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (wbmaj)

61 Marxism fails for everyone except those imposing it... Public choice theory

Posted by: Truman North at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (d1a7j)

62 Read Newt's book To Try Men's Souls.
The account of crossing the Delaware and the ensuing battle makes me feel quite small and weak.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (QM5S2)

63 >>>And now we have this trash in the White House

Part of the new energy intiative is to harness the energy released from our Founders' grave-spinning

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (3ZtZW)

64 60 Martha Washington Monument? A 555 foot hole in the ground.
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (wbmaj)


No, that's the Martha Mitchell Monument.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2013 10:37 AM (lgjuc)

65
61
Marxism fails for everyone except those imposing it... Public choice theory

Posted by: Truman North at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (d1a7j)


It fails, eventually, for them as well. Something to do with other people's money, I believe.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 10:38 AM (da5Wo)

66 It fails, eventually, for them as well. Something to do with other people's money, I believe.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 10:38 AM (da5Wo)

Obama's stash never runs out!

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at February 22, 2013 10:38 AM (DrWcr)

67
George Washington?
I'd suck his dik.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 22, 2013 10:39 AM (qXy1H)

68 281 years, 17 Trillion in Debt, the Hispanics officially take over California in Early 2014, Nobody Cares network now number 5..And we find out now we had this Liberty and Freedom Country all wrong..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 22, 2013 10:39 AM (x59Gv)

69 50

And the Washington Monument is the tallest free-standing masonry building in the world

It's still closed from that freak earthquake from last year. I've been driving by it every day this week enroute to one of the problem sites. It's pretty damned imposing. If it were open, I'd have found the time to stop, and go up.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at February 22, 2013 10:34 AM (eyJh9)



I'm working nearby the monument now, and it really is impressive in a way that pictures don't show. Totally unlike anything else.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at February 22, 2013 10:40 AM (cv8r/)

70 I ask all of you to please read this book--it is many years old but invaluable:
Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:40 AM (wbmaj)

71 And today, a commie occupies the White House.

Posted by: TexBob at February 22, 2013 10:40 AM (6S4Ai)

72 George Washington's teeth. Note that they are not "wood".

http://is.gd/LKMSVV


Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 10:41 AM (53z96)

73 >George Washington?
I'd suck his dik.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 22, 2013 10:39 AM (qXy1H)


You're not worthy

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:41 AM (8sCoq)

74 ALERT-Smoke from Vatican seen! Wisps of black and white smoke. It's official: Obama is the new Pope!!!!! Chicago is in! !

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:41 AM (wbmaj)

75 >I'm working nearby the monument now, and it really
is impressive in a way that pictures don't show. Totally unlike
anything else.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at February 22, 2013 10:40 AM (cv8r/)

The size of the monument is proportionate to the man's impact on history

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 10:42 AM (8sCoq)

76 It has been said that Barack Obama is the new Black George Washington.

This, I cannot fathom.

Posted by: Fritz at February 22, 2013 10:42 AM (UzPAd)

77
A case could be made that the passage of Uniform Monday Holiday Act in 1971 to give Americans more three-day weekends instead of commemorating Washington's birthday properly was right about where America's curve inflected.

Also, onions on belt.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2013 10:42 AM (kdS6q)

78 And today, a commie occupies the White House.
Posted by: TexBob at February 22, 2013 10:40 AM (6S4Ai)

Where are the British and a good flame when you really need them?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 10:42 AM (9Bj8R)

79 New DLC for Assassin's Creed has George Washington turn into King George Washington and become a tyrant.


Posted by: EC at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (GQ8sn)

80 And read David McCullough's 1776 if you haven't already. Excellent telling of the incredible difficulties of the first year of the Revolution, and how Washington overcame them.

Posted by: JoeScarborough at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (7ObY1)

81 poured out of a vaginal-shaped cocktail shaker.

I am not finding this on Crate and Barrel. Checking Sharper Image now..



I saw one last week @ Spencer's Gifts in the mall.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (GFM2b)

82 36 Joncelli,

He is probably the only irreplaceable man in the founding, and that is not faint praise as our current leadership class would all need ladders to kiss even the weakest founders' ass.

I rate General Greene as the better tactical and strategic mind but dear God Washington was our King in all but name in the sense that Good Queen Bess inspired Europe's basket case to kick the Spaniard's teeth in.

"er uh ships that go underwater..."

//Current "King in all but name"

The Ducky Hued asshole cannot hold up by way of comparison in any way.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (LRFds)

83 sock off

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (7ObY1)

84 George Washington was also our richest President when adjusted to today's dollars. Where di he make all his money?


A: He married it and he made moonshine.

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (53z96)

85
A: He married it and he made moonshine.
Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (53z96)


As if he wasn't already my hero...

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 22, 2013 10:44 AM (l86i3)

86 A: He married it and he made moonshine.


Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (53z96)


See? Smart man all the way around.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 10:44 AM (da5Wo)

87 He married it and he made moonshine.
Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (53z96)

Better moonshine than Ketchup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 10:44 AM (9Bj8R)

88 Zero the black George Washingtom? What fucking Universe is that? He wouldn't make a pimple on a man's ass, much less George Washington's.

Posted by: maddogg at February 22, 2013 10:44 AM (OlN4e)

89 #80 It's banned in public schools and universities. Read instead: "The Community Organizers Who Built America" by William Ayres.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:45 AM (wbmaj)

90 Ha Ha read about Washington tearing into Charles Lee at Monmouth.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 10:45 AM (QLJPW)

91 poured out of a vaginal-shaped cocktail shaker.



I am not finding this on Crate and Barrel. Checking Sharper Image now..







I saw one last week @ Spencer's Gifts in the mall.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (GFM2b)


I've got one on me now. I do house parties and Bar Mitsvah's at competitive rates. See me in the alley for details!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 22, 2013 10:45 AM (GQ8sn)

92 GW was a badass.

Two stories I’ve always liked about him: the first was during his service in the Seven Years’ War when he came under fire and wrote home, “I have heard the bullets whistle, and believe me, there is something charming in the sound.” To which George III, when he heard the statement, replied, “he would not say so had he been used to hear many.”


Years later, after the Revolution, someone asked Washington if he’d really called the sound of bullets “charming.” He said, “If I said such, I was a very young man.”


Another story I like: Washington was very reserved, not just because he was careful of his reputation and image as a gentleman, but also because, outside of a small circle of friends, he was shy. This made him seem forbidding and austere, but Gouverneur Morris thought it was all bluster, boasting that he could be as familiar with Washington as he was with his own friends. So he was challenged to a bet to slap GW on the shoulder and say how happy he was to see him.


Morris accepted. When he next saw Washington at a party, he went up, clapped his hand on his shoulder and said, “My dear General, how happy I am to see you look so well!”


Washington iced up and glared at Morris’ hand until he removed it and slunk out of the room. He paid off the bet, saying he wouldn’t try that again for a hundred pounds.


Since we’re talking GW, I’ve never read a biography of him, but the first book to turn me on to the Revolution was Patriots by A.J. Langguth. Well worth reading. And I’ve got Richard Archer’s As If An Enemy’s Country, a history of the Boston Massacre, on my bedside table.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 10:45 AM (zF6Iw)

93 From an SOC contractor... Not that any morons visit anyway.

www.nbc.com and other affliated websites have been compromised.
Malacious code trojans etc.
DOD has blocked websites.

Posted by: Golfman at February 22, 2013 10:45 AM (hlhxh)

94 Flesch Kincaid's at 18+

Dude gave a speech with grad school level chops.

Obama and most recent presidents? 9th Grade level.


Still 7 grades higher than the most advanced NIV.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 22, 2013 10:46 AM (GFM2b)

95 The moog noise is the best part of that video. And the British children. The moog noise and the British children are the two best parts of that video.

Posted by: red sweater at February 22, 2013 10:46 AM (oATMN)

96 Washington iced up and glared at Morris’ hand until he removed it and
slunk out of the room. He paid off the bet, saying he wouldn’t try that
again for a hundred pounds.



"Does Gee Dubya have to cut a bitch?"

Posted by: EC at February 22, 2013 10:47 AM (GQ8sn)

97 A: He married it and he made moonshine.

Sounds like a Kennedy.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 22, 2013 10:48 AM (/gHaE)

98 George had dogged persistence and an ability to
inspire men to make heavy sacrifices. Today he would be considered a
reactionary. What a magnificent bastard...

Posted by: joncelli at February 22, 2013 10:30 AM (RD7QR)

In some of my historical research, I discovered that one of Washington's most famous speeches (Pardon me gentlemen, for I have grown old in the service of my country) was the result of his efforts to stamp down a mutiny, which was led, coincidentally by our Later Ambassador to France, General John Armstrong.


Armstrong had convinced a lot of officers to hold a meeting in which they were to discuss using their power to overthrow the authority of congress. General Washington found out about it, rode in, and spoke to the men, and eventually brought some of them to tears. He thwarted the talk of rebellion, and secured their allegiance once more to the hapless congress.


Washington really was a magnificent bastard.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 10:48 AM (bb5+k)

99 @ 80 wow you dug that up cool...TRy.. Marching Morons..on your list..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 22, 2013 10:48 AM (x59Gv)

100
Meanwhile, how the left is remembering George today:

Huffington Post

George Washington Was a Friend of Muslims

Craig Considine
Ph.D. candidate, Trinity College Dublin; Film director, 'Journey into America'; Interfaith activist



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2013 10:48 AM (kdS6q)

101 And we are left with Mitch Fucking McConnell. Wooden chin, teeth are real.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:48 AM (wbmaj)

102
He made his argument and the men were unmoved, so then after a sad silence he said, "Gentlemen, you will permit me to

put on my spectacles, for I have not only grown gray but almost blind in

the service of my country."

Made his remaining points looked at his now crying men and left in silence himself.

We don't build them like that anymore, but hey at least Al Franken can be a Senator.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (LRFds)


Ha! You and I think very much alike. See my subsequent post, with no knowledge of yours.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 10:49 AM (bb5+k)

103 Still 7 grades higher than the most advanced NIV.

I blame Sesame Street for creating generations of imbeciles.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 22, 2013 10:49 AM (/gHaE)

104 He married it and he made moonshine.

Sounds like a Kennedy.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 22, 2013 10:48 AM (/gHaE)

Moonshining is an honorable American Tradition. Hauling in booze from across the Canadian Border or in a boat from Cuba is not.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 10:49 AM (9Bj8R)

105 Marxism fails for everyone except those imposing it... Public choice theory



Posted by: Truman North at February 22, 2013 10:36 AM (d1a7j)

It fails, eventually, for them as well. Something to do with other people's money, I believe.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 10:38 AM (da5Wo)

Marxism is nothing but a bait and switch con which imposes a sort of New Feudalism when it promises an equalitarian utopia.

Kings and Aristocrats, though they call them "Premiers" and "Apparatchiks."



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 10:51 AM (bb5+k)

106 102 Diogenes Lamp,

You and I share an education and a desire to try to at least be whispers of our founding.

I may not know as much as a high school senior does on self-esteem but I know that our magic was in the notion that common men unfettered were the most powerful force on Earth.

My reverence for the founding is not based on racial tribal pap, it is based on the notions those selfless men left that man can and should be more than meat puppet robots for the self "chosen."

We may have let the red bastards kill our magic.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 10:51 AM (LRFds)

107 It has been said that Barack Obama is the new Black George Washington.

This, I cannot fathom.


Posted by: Fritz at February 22, 2013 10:42 AM (UzPAd)



There was an old black George Washington? Barry isn't even the new George Washington Carver

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 10:53 AM (1Jaio)

108 Something else to ponder: how far have we fallen when the musical / movie 1776 will teach kids more about the Revolution than their own school books?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 10:53 AM (zF6Iw)

109 "By the way, Hugh Hewitt was also born today in 1956."

I thought he was 57, ten years ago.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 22, 2013 10:55 AM (7Nq2G)

110 Where are the British and a good flame when you really need them?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 10:42 AM (9Bj8R)

I used to joke with a Canadian about how they came down and burned Washington during the War of 1812, and would they please come and do it again?


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 10:55 AM (bb5+k)

111 I blame Sesame Street for creating generations of imbeciles.

I don't. I blame the parents who plopped their kids in front of the drool box for hours a day so they wouldn't have to interact with them.

Posted by: HeatherRadish marinating in the zeitgeist at February 22, 2013 10:55 AM (/kI1Q)

112 A: He married it and he made moonshine.

Sounds like a Kennedy.


Big difference? GW's was legal.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 22, 2013 10:56 AM (GFM2b)

113 Of the many things to admire about George Washington I think the thing I admire most is his resignation as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army at the end of the Revolution. Think about that for a minute- he was in sole command of the the most powerful military force on the American continent, one that had just defeated the most powerful military in the world, and rather than use that military to make himself a dictator or "King of America"- which he certainly could have done, he surrendered his army back to Congress.

Truly the act of an extraordinary man.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 22, 2013 10:56 AM (RSqz2)

114 Norman Hendrickson was known for telling jokes and never wasting money. So when he died suddenly while en route to his wife's funeral, the couple's daughters knew there was only one thing to do: Hold a doubleheader service.
The 94-year-old World War II veteran's impromptu wake was held Saturday at the same eastern New York funeral home where his wife Gwen's funeral was already scheduled. She was 89 when she died on Feb. 8. After Norman died just steps from the funeral home, the daughters decided their parents would be mourned together at the same time.
The daughters said it was a fitting way to say goodbye to a couple who had been together since meeting in Europe during World War II and who had been married for nearly 66 years.
"After we had a little time to process the shock and horror, we felt we couldn't have written a more perfect script," Norma Howland told the Post-Star of Glens Falls (http://bit.ly/VL01Jx ). "My sister said the only thing he didn't do was fall into the casket."
Norman, a former assistant postmaster in Cambridge, 35 miles northeast of Albany, was being driven in a limousine to the Ackley and Ross Funeral Home for his wife's service when he stopped breathing. After the limo pulled up, funeral director Jim Gariepy, who is also the local coroner, and funeral home owner Elizabeth Nichols-Ross helped move Norman to the sidewalk outside the business.
Gariepy began CPR while Nichols-Ross and one Norman's sons-in-law raced across town to retrieve his do-not-resuscitate orders from the Hendricksons' refrigerator door. Once the orders were in hand, an emergency crew that had arrived ceased attempts to revive Norman. He died on the sidewalk.
Nichols-Ross said daughter Merrilyne Hendrickson then requested that her father's body be put into a casket and placed in the viewing room with her mother's cremated remains, which had been placed in an urn. Mourners who started arriving soon after for Gwen's funeral were greeted by a note Merrilyne posted at the entrance: "Surprise -- It's a double header -- Gwen and Norman Hendrickson -- Feb. 16, 2013."
Nichols-Ross said she didn't charge the family for Norman's wake. On his prayer card, she jokingly wrote that Hendrickson got the idea to die in the limo headed to the funeral so he could get "a buy-one-get-one-free deal."
"If it had happened with somebody else like this it would have been sad, but with Norm it wasn't," Nichols-Ross said. "It was just so much like Norm."
Norman was overseas with the U.S. Army when he met Gwen, who was serving in the British Royal Air Force. She immigrated to the U.S. and they were married in May 1947.
Howland said her parents had jokingly promised to never leave one spouse behind. After her mother died, Howland said she overheard her father say aloud, "We have had a good long life together. I love you. I'll miss you and watch for me."


Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 10:56 AM (9Bj8R)

115
Something else to ponder: how far have we fallen when the musical / movie 1776 will teach kids more about the Revolution than their own school books?Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 10:53 AM (zF6Iw)
==============

But if it works, maybe we need to look more in that direction.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 10:57 AM (QLJPW)

116 I actually own the hatchet that George Washington used to cut down that cherry tree.

Granted the head was lost and replaced about 75 years ago and the handled cracked and was replaced 50 years ago.

But hey, it still occupies the same space!!

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 10:57 AM (m2CN7)

117 Barry isn't even the new George Washington Carver

Yeah. GWC could do jr high math.

That was before math became a racist construct of racist white men for racistly keeping black people opressed, mind you.

Posted by: HeatherRadish marinating in the zeitgeist at February 22, 2013 10:57 AM (/kI1Q)

118 Marxism is nothing but a bait and switch con which imposes a sort of New Feudalism when it promises an equalitarian utopia.

I get sick of repeating this, but I will say this again: Feudalism is a very specific form of hierarchy based on military service in return for land tenure; a hierarchical network of contracts if you will. What you are thinking of is totalitarianism.
Calling it "New Feudalism" is like calling an AR-15 a "New Maxim Gun."

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 10:58 AM (c9rJ5)

119 Behind every good man there is a woman, and that woman was Martha Washington, man, and everyday George would come home, she would have a big fat bowl waiting for him, man, when he come in the door, man, she was a hip, hip, hip lady, man

Posted by: Slater at February 22, 2013 10:58 AM (BrQrN)

120 If George could see what we have become, he may have sided with the British.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 10:59 AM (uhftQ)

121
He is probably the only irreplaceable man in the
founding, and that is not faint praise as our current leadership class
would all need ladders to kiss even the weakest founders' ass.

I
rate General Greene as the better tactical and strategic mind but dear
God Washington was our King in all but name in the sense that Good Queen
Bess inspired Europe's basket case to kick the Spaniard's teeth in.



Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (LRFds)

I am reminded of a famous Toast that Ben Franklin gave in the court of the French King. I found it on the internet.


"But Franklin knew how to use quick wit as well as deep thought.
Franklin was the American representative in Paris during and after the
Revolutionary War. He was present at Versailles when a British
ambassador toasted his own king, comparing him to the sun. The French
minister then toasted King Louis XVI and compared him to the moon.
Benjamin Franklin then toasted America's military commander: "George
Washington, commander of the American armies, who, like Joshua of old,
commanded the sun and the moon to stand still, and they obeyed him."
His sense of humor was reflected in a short essay on the importance of
the placement of the elbow to facilitate the drinking of wine.
Franklin contended that a different configuration of length of the lower
and upper arm might have made such diversion almost impossible. "But
by the actual situation, we are enabled to drink at our ease, the glass
going exactly to the mouth. Let us, then, with glass in hand, adore
this benevolent wisdom; let us adore and drink!""


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:00 AM (bb5+k)

122 And we are left with Mitch Fucking McConnell. Wooden chin, teeth are real.
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:48 AM (wbmaj)

Does it make you feel good to continually bash and deginerate people on your side?

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:00 AM (m2CN7)

123
119 -
And don't forget, Martha was quite the hottie. So he had that going for him... which was nice.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 22, 2013 11:01 AM (TOk1P)

124 A: He married it and he made moonshine.


Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 10:43 AM (53z96)

My recollection is that he made WHISKEY.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:01 AM (bb5+k)

125 DEBBIE WASSERMAN-SCHULTZ: Well, everything is — everything would be delayed. You’ll have massive cuts to education, health care research, research grants that won’t get funded. I mean, the decisions that we make now, letting the sequester kick in, have short-term effects that affect people’s daily lives, but they also have significant long-term effects. If a university isn’t able to hire a researcher or — because the grant doesn’t come through — that researcher never does ground breaking work that could save thousands of lives later on down the road. I mean, this is dramatically irresponsible. It’s irresponsible for our economy and the impact on it. It’s irresponsible to, in terms of the impact it would leave on the middle class and working families. The only ones who get protected are the wealthiest, most fortunate americans. But that appears to be the Republicans’ goal. And it’s just baffling. How could they possibly continue to only care about people who are already doing really well who are the only ones that would be shielded from the impact of sequester cuts?


babe, you ain't no George Washington, you dumb slut. And oh by the way, sequestration is all yours

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 11:01 AM (9Bj8R)

126 The Washington Monument is just another phallic symbol, indicating the oppression of Womyn for all of Amerikkka's shameful history. It's also colored white; so make of that what you will!

Posted by: Typical College Professor at February 22, 2013 11:02 AM (cv5Iw)

127

George Washington grew hemp.

And so did Jesus.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 22, 2013 11:02 AM (vuIm8)

128 Does it make you feel good to continually bash and deginerate people on your side?
Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:00 AM (m2CN7)

Mitch McConnell is on Mitch McConnell's side.

Posted by: Virginian at February 22, 2013 11:02 AM (XwEBp)

129 He'd be twisting in his grave if he knew how the government uses it's resources today. Your green dollars at work in the green industry!
http://tinyurl.com/b4y6pa2

AnotherSolyndra on a smaller scale. But what the heck, it's only a few million $$.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 22, 2013 11:03 AM (n8LUb)

130

oh, and Jesus was against spending cuts

it's in the bible

Posted by: soothsayer at February 22, 2013 11:03 AM (eHNxr)

131 Lord Byron :

Where may the wearied eye reposeWhen gazing on the Great;Where neither guilty glory glows,Nor despicable state?Yes —one—the first—the last—the best—The Cincinnatus of the West,Whom envy dared not hate,Bequeath’d the name of Washington,To make man blush there was but one!

Posted by: spc at February 22, 2013 11:03 AM (CtffS)

132 My recollection is that he made WHISKEY.

Beer, too.

Posted by: HeatherRadish marinating in the zeitgeist at February 22, 2013 11:05 AM (/kI1Q)

133 George Washington was also for a strong central government.

RINO!!!!!!!

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:05 AM (m2CN7)

134 I cannot tell a lie.
Bush chopped down the cherry tree.

Posted by: Barack Washington at February 22, 2013 11:06 AM (Qxdfp)

135 George Washington's Beer Recipe

http://www.beerhistory.com/library/holdings/washingtonrecipe.shtml

Posted by: HeatherRadish marinating in the zeitgeist at February 22, 2013 11:06 AM (/kI1Q)

136
111 -

My daughter spent countless hours with the likes of Spongebob and Dora. We NEVER allowed PBS pablum into our home.

Now she's a bright, resourceful, extraordinarily reasonable teenager. It's not about the hours in front of the tv, it's about the content.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 22, 2013 11:06 AM (TOk1P)

137 And we are left with Mitch Fucking McConnell. Wooden chin, teeth are real.

You mean "Glass Jaw"

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 22, 2013 11:07 AM (n8LUb)

138 If George could see what we have become, he may have sided with the British.

Heh. If he could have seen what the British would become, George III might have sided with Washington!
Actually, I gather that George III was a pretty decent person in private and not even all that unreasonable as a ruler, but was stubborn and unable to understand why the colonists interpreted his actions as tyranny - he thought he was strengthening the Empire, others saw it as an attempt to turn back the clock to the Stuart dynasty.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:07 AM (c9rJ5)

139 Ted Kennedy wasn't born; he was poured out of a vaginal-shaped cocktail shaker.

Found in dumpster behind Planned Parenthood..

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 22, 2013 11:08 AM (n8LUb)

140
My reverence for the founding is not based on
racial tribal pap, it is based on the notions those selfless men left
that man can and should be more than meat puppet robots for the self
"chosen."

We may have let the red bastards kill our magic.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 10:51 AM (LRFds)


Locke and Burke.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:08 AM (bb5+k)

141 Something else to ponder: how far have we fallen when the musical / movie 1776 will teach kids more about the Revolution than their own school books?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 10:53 AM (zF6Iw)


I know some of those songs by heart. Great movie/play.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:09 AM (bb5+k)

142 Here's the other rub. His was legal because he made it before the tax came into being. The merchant interests on the coast got passed a new law for a federal tax on whiskey/moonshine.


Of course the corn growers on the other side of the mountains didn't like that because they saw it as unfairly singling them out (which it did). This incited the Whiskey Rebellion.


Guess who led the troops before turning them over to Light horse Harry Lee?

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 11:09 AM (53z96)

143 It's not about the hours in front of the tv, it's about the content.

No, it's the time spent in front of the TV. You let her watch mind-numbing pablum sometimes, but you didn't plop her in front of it every waking hour...you made her eat meals at the table and play outside and read books at bedtime and shit like that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish marinating in the zeitgeist at February 22, 2013 11:09 AM (/kI1Q)

144 oh, and Jesus was against spending cuts it's in the bible

Chapter? Verse?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 22, 2013 11:09 AM (n8LUb)

145 74ALERT-Smoke from Vatican seen! Wisps of black and white smoke. It's official: Obama is the new Pope!!!!! Chicago is in! ! Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 10:41 AM (wbmaj)-----------------------------------Really? This so aweful..ly funny! in every possible inappropriateway. thank you.

Posted by: Squid Czar at February 22, 2013 11:10 AM (KgD0C)

146
"Barry isn't even the new George Washington Carver"



He is the Peanut in GWC's shit.

Posted by: It's all about the 'O' at February 22, 2013 11:10 AM (UrENZ)

147 Dear Troops at Valley Forge,

Sure looks cold there! It is 65 and sunny here , golfing with Tiger.
Let me know how the battle goes, get some good pics. We can photoshop if necessary.

Your welcome,
you incredible Commander in Chief

P.S. sorry about your frozen feet, you'll be happy to hear that Obamacare pays for all your pain meds!

Posted by: Barack Washington at February 22, 2013 11:10 AM (EZl54)

148 Heh. If he could have seen what the British would become, George III might have sided with Washington! Actually, I gather that George III was a pretty decent person in private and not even all that unreasonable as a ruler, but was stubborn and unable to understand why the colonists interpreted his actions as tyranny - he thought he was strengthening the Empire, others saw it as an attempt to turn back the clock to the Stuart dynasty.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:07 AM (c9rJ5)

We are lucky that the Parliament refused to listen to George III because it was they who allowed us to win the Revolutionary War. George III wanted to do a 'surge' which would have done us in. The Parliament was war weary and afraid of the French and decided to give up.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:11 AM (m2CN7)

149
138 -

Yup. G3 was also dealing with something of a revolution at home. The pipples were insisting on having some amount of democratic rule, and the parliamentarians were getting more than a bit uppity. His control on his own government was tenuous, and his own son was conspiring against him to have him declared insane.

The fact that he didn't care for the colonists acting like they could go it alone was hardly tyrannical. But all is forgiven nowadays, I suppose.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 22, 2013 11:12 AM (TOk1P)

150
But if it works, maybe we need to look more in that direction.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 22, 2013 10:57 AM (QLJPW)


The Liberals have been kicking our ass by educationg people into their ideology using this exact technique; Propaganda disguised as entertainment.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:12 AM (bb5+k)

151 I am a man of constant sorrow
I've seen trouble all my days
I bid farewell to old Hawaii
The place where I was born raised
(The place where he was born raised)

Four long years I've been in trouble
No pleasure here on earth I found
For in this world I'm bound to ramble
I have no friends to help me now
(I have no friends to help me now)

Posted by: Pres**ent Barack “Unexpectedly Humble” Obama at February 22, 2013 11:13 AM (e8kgV)

152 The Parliament was war weary and afraid of the French and decided to give up.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:11 AM (m2CN7)



That's just embarrassing and deserving of defeat.

(Yes, yes people, I realize the French of the late 1700's aren't the French of the last century. However, I hate the French and I will take any and all opportunities to deride them.)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 11:13 AM (da5Wo)

153 Here is a cliff clavin trivia question.

In the song Yankee Doodle. What's a Doodle and what's a Macaroni?

The songhas avery interesting history.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:14 AM (m2CN7)

154
I get sick of repeating this, but I will say
this again: Feudalism is a very specific form of hierarchy based on
military service in return for land tenure; a hierarchical network of
contracts if you will. What you are thinking of is totalitarianism.

Calling it "New Feudalism" is like calling an AR-15 a "New Maxim Gun."

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 10:58 AM (c9rJ5)

The term instantly conjures the appropriate mental construct in the minds of most people. If you have a better term for accomplishing this, I'm all ears, but sometimes a little inaccuracy is needed to convey a point to people who wouldn't understand it otherwise.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:14 AM (bb5+k)

155

G Washington would want us to invade Syria.

It's all right there in his farewell address.
Washington specifically encouraged foreign entanglements, especially for moslems.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 22, 2013 11:14 AM (QVBzT)

156 If George could see what we have become, he may have sided with the British.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 10:59 AM (uhftQ)

Not if he could see what THEY have become.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:15 AM (bb5+k)

157 Locke and Burke

Burke was actually opposed to American independence in general (though he considered their grievances valid and thought that the Crown had forced them to it); Locke was widely admired by the founders but for his epistomological writings, not the political theory for whichhe is best known today.
There is a fellow by the name of Algernon Sydney who, despite being almost unknown today, probably had more influence than either - Jefferson named him one of the top three best political writers (Lock was notably not one of the other two, but he was listed as a top epistomologist). I haven't been able to get a copy of his works yet. The old Hoguenot tract [i[Vindicaea Contra Tyrannos was also widely read, and establishes the idea of a contract between ruler and ruled a hundred years before Locke. That is available on the web.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:16 AM (c9rJ5)

158 @150 The Liberals have been kicking our ass by educationg people into their ideology using this exact technique; Propaganda disguised as entertainment.
______
That's a good corollary to Uncle Saul's "A good tactic is one your people enjoy" - A good propaganda piece is one that its audience enjoys.

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:16 AM (SkFDg)

159 I know some of those songs by heart. Great movie/play.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:09 AM (bb5+k)
=========

I saw it years ago on Broadway. When they got to the part where Morris describes the New York legislature ("...everybody speaks very loud and very fast and nobody listens to anybody else so consequently nothing ever gets done!") the audience broke into a cheering ovation so loud and sustained that the actors had to stop and just stand around on stage looking at each other for about ten minutes until it finally died down.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 22, 2013 11:17 AM (RSqz2)

160

it's in the Book of Shut Up, chapter That's Why, verse Racist

Posted by: soothsayer at February 22, 2013 11:17 AM (wAng0)

161 smaller Larger The president's sequester strategy is like Howard Beale in "Network": "Woe is us. . . . And woe is us! We're in a lot of trouble!"
It is always cliffs, ceilings and looming catastrophes with Barack Obama. It is always government by freakout.

That's what's happening now with the daily sequester warnings. Seven hundred thousand children will be dropped from Head Start. Six hundred thousand women and children will be dropped from aid programs. Meat won't be inspected. Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off, customs workers too, and air traffic controllers. Lines at airports will be impossible. The Navy will slow down the building of an aircraft carrier. Troop readiness will be disrupted, weapons programs slowed or stalled, civilian contractors stiffed, uniformed first responders cut back. Our nuclear deterrent will be indefinitely suspended. Ha, made that one up, but give them time.

Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

Mr. Obama has finally hit on his own version of national unity: Everyone get scared together.

Posted by: Harold Abrams at February 22, 2013 11:18 AM (e8kgV)

162
143 -

Not really. I'm going to assume you would not approve of the amount of time she spent in front of the tv (and still does). She developed her mind, mostly because she had CHOICES (and still does). She's a voracious reader, and we have also spent countless hours talking about the things she reads and sees on tv, and experiences in her classrooms, and among her friends.

I strongly suspect that if I had tried to MAKE her turn off the tv and read more, she would have rebelled.

My point being, and I think you and I agree here, is that it's about the parents being engaged in their children's lives. I just think we have to make sure we focus on the lack of that as being the problem, rather than the fact that kids are watching tv.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 22, 2013 11:19 AM (TOk1P)

163
We are lucky that the Parliament refused to
listen to George III because it was they who allowed us to win the
Revolutionary War. George III wanted to do a 'surge' which would have
done us in. The Parliament was war weary and afraid of the French and
decided to give up.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:11 AM (m2CN7)


Lincoln DID the surge. Surges work.





Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:19 AM (bb5+k)

164 " ... Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off, ..."

This is sort of like 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea .. it's a good start

Posted by: Baron Vladimir Harkonnen at February 22, 2013 11:19 AM (e8kgV)

165 George Washington wasn't so great. The man drank water throughout the Revolutionary War.

Posted by: The Media at February 22, 2013 11:21 AM (YXmuI)

166 In the song Yankee Doodle. What's a Doodle and what's a Macaroni?



The songhas avery interesting history.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:14 AM (m2CN7)


The Macaroni was a well known gay friendly club in London at the time. The song is an attempt to portray Americans as effeminate homosexuals.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:21 AM (bb5+k)

167 The thing a lot of people forget about Washington and his army is that things were going quite badly for them for a very long time. Indeed, the crossing of the Delaware at night on Christmas was a desperate move.

Then they captured that cannon at Trenton and turned it on its former owners.

New ball game.

Posted by: navybrat at February 22, 2013 11:21 AM (7zvJ4)

168 Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off


In other news, daily rape statistics show a drop of 7000 rapes.

Posted by: EC at February 22, 2013 11:21 AM (GQ8sn)

169 #122 Yes.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 11:23 AM (wbmaj)

170 Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off


Three-year-old girls with spina bifida can breathe a little easier.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2013 11:24 AM (DrWcr)

171 168 Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off


In other news, daily rape statistics show a drop of 7000 rapes.
_______
Obama voters hardest hit?

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:24 AM (SkFDg)

172 Ted Kennedy wasn't born; he was poured out of a vaginal-shaped cocktail shaker.

Hey, if you married into this family, you'd drink like a fish too.

Posted by: Zombie Rose Kennedy at February 22, 2013 11:24 AM (sbV1u)

173 The term instantly conjures the appropriate mental construct in the minds of most people. If you have a better term for accomplishing this, I'm all ears, but sometimes a little inaccuracy is needed to convey a point to people who wouldn't understand it otherwise.

Nomenklatura - if your name is on the list, you get preferencial treatment, everyone else has their lives run by bureaucrats. As a bonus, it comes from Soviet Russia. I guess most people aren't familiar with the name, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:25 AM (c9rJ5)

174 Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off

I'll believe it when it happens.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 11:25 AM (4df7R)

175 Burke was actually opposed to American independence
in general (though he considered their grievances valid and thought that
the Crown had forced them to it); Locke was widely admired by the
founders but for his epistomological writings, not the political theory
for whichhe is best known today.

There is a fellow by the name of Algernon Sydney who, despite being
almost unknown today, probably had more influence than either -
Jefferson named him one of the top three best political writers (Lock
was notably not one of the other two, but he was listed as a top
epistomologist). I haven't been able to get a copy of his works yet. The
old Hoguenot tract [i[Vindicaea Contra Tyrannos was also widely read,
and establishes the idea of a contract between ruler and ruled a hundred
years before Locke. That is available on the web.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:16 AM (c9rJ5)

You seem to have a good grasp of this bit of history, but my recollection was that Burke was in favor of conciliating with the Americans. I am fond of quoting one of his references to this.


"The use of force alone is but temporary. It may subdue for a
moment; but it does not remove the necessity of subduing again: and a
nation is not governed, which is perpetually to be conquered."

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:25 AM (bb5+k)

176 The Macaroni was a well known gay friendly club in London at the time. The song is an attempt to portray Americans as effeminate homosexuals.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:21 AM (bb5+k)

They were not necessarily homos but were effeminate in the manner of what we would call dandys and it became somewhat the fashion in the 1770s with the uppercrust.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:26 AM (m2CN7)

177 68 Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off





In other news, daily rape statistics show a drop of 7000 rapes.

_______

Obama voters hardest hit?

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:24 AM (SkFDg)


Toddlers and wheelchair-bound octagenarians with colostomy bags least hit.

Posted by: EC at February 22, 2013 11:26 AM (GQ8sn)

178 That's a good corollary to Uncle Saul's "A good
tactic is one your people enjoy" - A good propaganda piece is one that
its audience enjoys.

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:16 AM (SkFDg)

Rush used to talk about the "Green eyeshade" people in the Republican party. He pointed out that no one will listen to that stuff, no matter how important it is. It's boring.

If you can't entertain them, you will not reach them.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:26 AM (bb5+k)

179 My favorite GW story is that Napoleon is reputed to have said on his deathbed: "they wanted me to be another Washington".

Posted by: pep at February 22, 2013 11:27 AM (YXmuI)

180
When the list of best presidents is posted year after year, Washington will always be at the top. He had his shortcomings but when offered to be crowned king of this new nation, he declined.
Think about that for a second. How many of the presidents that followed him would have said yes? A distressingly large number, I'm afraid.

(Though, Jefferson, if you asked him, would have proably probably pulled a knife on you...)

Posted by: Warthog at February 22, 2013 11:27 AM (WDySP)

181 I mean, the decisions that we make now, letting the sequester kick in,
have short-term effects that affect people’s daily lives, but they also
have significant long-term effects. If a university isn’t able to hire a
researcher or — because the grant doesn’t come through — that
researcher never does ground breaking work that could save thousands of
lives later on down the road.








Yeah, those jogging shrimp can be trained to fight against the flying squid menace.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 22, 2013 11:28 AM (TIIx5)

182 (Yes, yes people, I realize the French of the late 1700's aren't the French of the last century. Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 11:13 AM (da5Wo)

True.

But they've always been a syphilitic, degenerative race of pastry chefs.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 22, 2013 11:28 AM (sbV1u)

183 The rope smokers who made that video are Che lovers. What a surprise.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 22, 2013 11:28 AM (bGlsD)

184
I saw it years ago on Broadway. When they got to
the part where Morris describes the New York legislature ("...everybody
speaks very loud and very fast and nobody listens to anybody else so
consequently nothing ever gets done!") the audience broke into a
cheering ovation so loud and sustained that the actors had to stop and
just stand around on stage looking at each other for about ten minutes
until it finally died down.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 22, 2013 11:17 AM (RSqz2)

You see, we piddle, twiddle, and resolve / Not one damn thing do we solve / Piddle, twiddle, and resolve / Nothing's ever solved in / Foul, fetid, fuming, foggy, ... Philadelphia.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:29 AM (bb5+k)

185 The thing a lot of people forget about Washington and his army is that things were going quite badly for them for a very long time. Indeed, the crossing of the Delaware at night on Christmas was a desperate move. Then they captured that cannon at Trenton and turned it on its former owners. New ball game.
Posted by: navybrat at February 22, 2013 11:21 AM (7zvJ4)

What a lot of people also don't know is that he issued the death penalty to a number of deserters / mutineers. He actuallyforced some of the mutineers to be the executioneers of the one's that were sentenced to death. It worked.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:29 AM (m2CN7)

186 I think we're far enough into the post to go OT, ne?

I found this to be a scintillating headline at Drudge. It really makes you think.

Bloods gang member found with 100 bags of heroin hidden in anus...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/heroin-hidden-in-butt-561324

Say what you want, but that takes some skilll. Or at least a very loose sphincter.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 11:29 AM (4df7R)

187 >>>There was an old black George Washington? Barry isn't even the new George Washington Carver

I was the peanut farmer, dammit!

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at February 22, 2013 11:30 AM (6E2Pf)

188 The Liberals have been kicking our ass by educationg people into their ideology using this exact technique; Propaganda disguised as entertainment.
They own the public school system, too.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 22, 2013 11:30 AM (n8LUb)

189 George Washington - just another radical right wing extremist.

-libtard

Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 22, 2013 11:30 AM (A9hpr)

190 The Macaroni was a well known gay friendly club in London at the time. The song is an attempt to portray Americans as effeminate homosexuals.

I think a "macaroni" was general slang for a dandy, used as an adjective it meant something like "hip." It came from the fascination with Italian culture common at the time among the upper classes.
Yankee Doodle putting a father in his cap and considering himself fashionable in consequence is a demonstration of his rustic ignorance. Basically it is calling the Americans a bunch of rednecks...

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:31 AM (c9rJ5)

191 My point being, and I think you and I agree here, is that it's about the parents being engaged in their children's lives. I just think we have to make sure we focus on the lack of that as being the problem, rather than the fact that kids are watching tv.
Posted by: BurtTC


I agree. Teenage Lurking Canuck gets to spend time in front of the television, but most of that is with the adult training units or is pre-approved (and she also spends plenty of time reading, playing piano, etc....all of which she initiates herself at this point).

And I'll use the entertainment for whatever value it might have. Band of Brothers, HBO's Rome (with certain scenes forwarded), the first couple of season of BSG, hell...I'm even going to have her watch The Wire soon enough.

That way when I have certain points to make or discussions to have, it's not just looked at as another boring lecture, but something I can make very relevant to the stories she's familiar with. And I do the same thing with books she reads.

As you said, the engagement is what makes the biggest difference.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 22, 2013 11:31 AM (BrQrN)

192 Does it make you feel good to continually bash and deginerate people on your side?
Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:00 AM (m2CN7)


When they're collaborationist pieces of shit more interested in playing kissy-face with the scum on the other side who are hell-bent on turning this country into a socialist hellhole? Goddamn fucking right, I do. Would you prefer I tongue his ass and say what a courageous fighter for the Constitution he is?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 11:31 AM (zF6Iw)

193 Not all universities are complete sh**holes. Ours is hosting David McCullough as a lecturer in April. I was on fire after I read his "1776". Washington does not get the recognition he deserves in today's culture.

Posted by: small town girl in southern Wyoming at February 22, 2013 11:32 AM (Ri+tH)

194
When I was a wee.......urcin...there was school...and in school we learned.....The History of America. We learned about the Americian Revolution and a man called Washington. True, over time, history is chock-full of mild re-touches, yet the very essence of our 1st President did remain true. He was a good leader of men in battle. With the grateful voices of a new nation urging him on, he did in fact agree, though some would saywith some reluctance, to be the very first leader of this new nation and he applied hisprinciples to this postion in a way that seemed to set the course for this country. Very fitting of a man of this Large Stature in Time, who helped launch this Great Nation for ALL the World to see....
Fuckin-A-Right!
Please don't hate us now George.

Posted by: Richard at February 22, 2013 11:32 AM (SpEuH)

195 Washington was good and all, but did he cry like the more human than human TFG.

(Put on your waders in case Amie didn't swallow it all)

http://tinyurl.com/a5qmbhw


The Spock-like Obama criticized for being aloof has been ditched in favor of a president who tells personal anecdotes about his life, shares locked-away thoughts from his past and on several occasions has wiped away a tear or two in public.

Posted by: RWC at February 22, 2013 11:33 AM (fWAjv)

196 Rush used to talk about the "Green eyeshade" people in the Republican party. He pointed out that no one will listen to that stuff, no matter how important it is. It's boring.

If you can't entertain them, you will not reach them.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:26 AM (bb5+k)
_________
Forgive my ignorance, but who are the "green eyeshade" people? I've never heard the phrase before.

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:34 AM (SkFDg)

197 #122 Sing along with Mitch
From the Tea party blog, courtesy of Mr. Curmudgeon:
It is well worth remembering that McConnell's hand-picked political hack, who ran in Kentucky’s GOP Senate primary in 2010, lost badly to the Tea Party-supported Rand Paul. Something tells me the victorious Paul should start a short list of handpicked Tea Party replacements for this particular feeble-minded GOP leader. In fact, it’s a little difficult to consider a man a “leader” when he wants to hand his legislative authority to the executive branch. A man that anxious to avoid doing his Constitutional duty should have it taken away – by the Tea Party and not Obama.
The cancer eating away the Republican Party has a name: Mitch McConnell. It’s time sleepy Republican voters woke up and threw out this particular bum.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 11:34 AM (wbmaj)

198 186 I think we're far enough into the post to go OT, ne? I found this to be a scintillating headline at Drudge. It really makes you think. Bloods gang member found with 100 bags of heroin hidden in anus... http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/heroin-hidden-in-butt-561324 Say what you want, but that takes some skilll. Or at least a very loose sphincter.

"That's some lunchbox"

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 22, 2013 11:34 AM (n8LUb)

199 I know it's a different era than the "Macaroni" dadndies, but have you seen the Gene Kelly Three Musketeers movie? Those costumes were gayer than a handbag full of rainbows.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 22, 2013 11:34 AM (ZshNr)

200 >(Though, Jefferson, if you asked him, would have proably probably pulled a knife on you...)

Posted by: Warthog at February 22, 2013 11:27 AM (WDySP)

I believe Andrew Jackson would have had someone horse-whipped

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 11:35 AM (8sCoq)

201 Basically it is calling the Americans a bunch of rednecks...

So TFG's "bitter clingers" insult is hundreds of years old, like the rest of his ideology.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 11:36 AM (B/VB5)

202 Say what you want, but that takes some skilll. Or at least a very loose sphincter.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 11:29 AM (4df7R)


Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri's widened anus laughs at this attempt.

Posted by: RWC at February 22, 2013 11:37 AM (fWAjv)

203 True.

But they've always been a syphilitic, degenerative race of pastry chefs.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 22, 2013 11:28 AM (sbV1u)



And those are the nice things that can be said about them.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 11:39 AM (da5Wo)

204 They were not necessarily homos but were effeminate
in the manner of what we would call dandys and it became somewhat the
fashion in the 1770s with the uppercrust.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:26 AM (m2CN7)

The Georgian period of English History is known for it's sexual excess. The Victorian era followed with Prudishness for a very good reason. Huge numbers of English were dying from venereal diseases, and it became a necessary aspect of National policy to do whatever it took to put a stop to it.

In any case, I might be mistaken about the song portraying Americans as specifically homosexual, but that is what I had read in one history of the song.

Even so, they were trying to say we were weak little girly men. We ended up taking the song away from them and using it against them.






Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:39 AM (bb5+k)

205 My kids are in school. They have learned that Geo. Washington was a great American, right up there (almost) with Sojourner Truth.

Posted by: annoyed at February 22, 2013 11:39 AM (uEm7J)

206 My favorite Washington anecdote:

After the Revolutionary War, Ethan Allen was visiting Britain, he saw a picture of George Washington hung up in an outhouse. Allen's comment:

"It is most appropriately hung, nothing ever made the British shit like the sight of George Washington."

Posted by: SparcVark at February 22, 2013 11:39 AM (4plpG)

207 What a lot of people also don't know is that he issued the death penalty to a number of deserters / mutineers. He actuallyforced some of the mutineers to be the executioneers of the one's that were sentenced to death. It worked.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:29 AM (m2CN7)
=======

I remember reading about that and he used a good bit of theatre to reinforce his authority. I think there were nine men that were sentenced to hang before the assembled company. All the preparations were made; the graves were dug (by the men themselves if I recall the story correctly) but at the last minute eight of the men were reprieved and only one (who I think was the ring-leader) was hanged.

Overall it was a very effective use of punishment and mercy that inspired even greater loyalty in the troops.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 22, 2013 11:39 AM (RSqz2)

208 "The use of force alone is but temporary. It may subdue for a moment; but it does not remove the necessity of subduing again: and a nation is not governed, which is perpetually to be conquered."
Thanks. Burke was a Whig and a sympathetic to their cause, for sure. As far as I can tell, he didn't see American independence as a good thing in itself, but as a natural consequence of George III's refusal to do the right thing.I don't think that was a fault, particularly since independence wasn't a goal when the Revolution started even in the colonies. I just wanted to point out that while he may have held the same general principles as did the founders, he was from a different country with different priorities and was not a direct influence on the founders themselves.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:40 AM (c9rJ5)

209 113 ---"Of the many things to admire about George Washington I think the thing I admire most is his resignation as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army at the end of the Revolution. "
Posted by: Nighthawk at February 22, 2013 10:56 AM (RSqz2)

His decision not to seek a third term as president was likewise extraordinary.

When I was a kid, Washington was greatly admired in Latin America and what the history books emphasized was precisely that. He was the second Cincinnatus, the man who did all he could for his country and then voluntarily gave up his power. He would not be king, dictator, or president for life.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 22, 2013 11:40 AM (C8mVl)

210 When they're collaborationist pieces of shit more
interested in playing kissy-face with the scum on the other side who are
hell-bent on turning this country into a socialist hellhole? Goddamn
fucking right, I do. Would you prefer I tongue his ass and say what a
courageous fighter for the Constitution he is?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 11:31 AM (zF6Iw)


That was vulgar, obscene, profane and, frankly, somewhat horrifying.


Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 11:40 AM (da5Wo)

211 Say what you want, but that takes some skilll. Or at least a very loose sphincter

Sean Penn....Robert Duvall...Maria Conchita Alonso

Reunited in...

COLORS: THE ANUSSING

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 22, 2013 11:41 AM (BrQrN)

212
What a lot of people also don't know is that he
issued the death penalty to a number of deserters / mutineers. He
actuallyforced some of the mutineers to be the executioneers of the
one's that were sentenced to death. It worked.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:29 AM (m2CN7)

The men had to shoot their officers.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:41 AM (bb5+k)

213 My favorite Washington anecdote: he kicked British ass back across the Atlantic, by the thousands.

Posted by: annoyed at February 22, 2013 11:42 AM (uEm7J)

214 And in complete opposition to the non-Imperial Presidency of Washington, we have Obammy.

Obama Administration Moves Forward on Climate Change Without Congress

President Barack Obama is tired of waiting for Congress to move on legislation to reduce carbon emissions (MWR - Aww, hear that? He's tired of waiting. Poor baby Bawack, the bad people in Congress won't let him have his new toy, and he's getting cranky.), and his administration is poised to move forward on actions to do just that—including a move that will effectively eliminate the possibility of any new coal plant opening in the United States, experts say.

"We can choose to believe that Superstorm Sandy, and the most severe drought in decades, and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence," Obama said during his State of the Union address. "Or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science
(MWR - You mean overwhelming consensus, you worthless pile of corn shit. Consensus ain't science) —and act before it's too late."

Climate change has been a controversial public policy issue in recent years, as many conservative Republicans have denied a relationship between carbon emissions and incremental increases in temperatures
(MWR - You mean the incremental increases in temperature that happen naturally? That have always happened, will always happen, and over which humanity has next to jack shit control? Those incremental increases? Or are you talking about the phantom temperature increases that don't actually exist but which the "models" said were going to kill us all... AFTER they got through telling us about the temperature DROPS that would kill us all in a new ice age), which many scientists link to increasingly severe weather events (MWR - Despite the cries of climate scientists for decades that "Weather =/= Climate!" Apparently they were just lying to us all those years. Fancy that...)...."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 11:42 AM (4df7R)

215 I think a "macaroni" was general slang for a dandy, used as an adjective it meant something like "hip." It came from the fascination with Italian culture common at the time among the upper classes. Yankee Doodle putting a father in his cap and considering himself fashionable in consequence is a demonstration of his rustic ignorance. Basically it is calling the Americans a bunch of rednecks...
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:31 AM (c9rJ5)

Bingo! hence the Doodle, or simpleton

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:42 AM (m2CN7)

216
(Yes, yes people, I realize the French of the late 1700's aren't the
French of the last century. Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013
11:13 AM (da5Wo)

True.

But they've always been a syphilitic, degenerative race of pastry chefs.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 22, 2013 11:28 AM (sbV1u)


From Blackadder Back and Forth the Napoleon scene:
Duc d'Darling: Why do we want to invade Britain in the first place? Their wine is made of the pee pee of cows and their women all have big beards.Napoleon: Because ze British think zey are so tough. They think we French are sissies, they call us weeds, and whoopsies and big girl's blouses.Duc d' Darling: With respect mon Empereur we are whoopsies. We invented the tapestry, the souffle, and the sweet liqueur. We will be slaughtered the minute we mince up the hill

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 11:42 AM (1Jaio)

217 My favorite Washington anecdote:

That's a beaut.

They have learned that Geo. Washington was a great American, right up there (almost) with Sojourner Truth.

Wow, your kids must be in some kind of reactionary, backward
"school" for indoctrinating Hitler youth. The two are not even remotely comparable.

Posted by: pep at February 22, 2013 11:42 AM (YXmuI)

218 Okay I give up on spacing. It never seems to work

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 11:42 AM (1Jaio)

219 Slavery gets shit done.

I actually saw this on a sweatshirt the other night. White guy wearing it in an, er...urban neighborhood.

I was wondering if it was looking to commit suicide by thug, or what?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 22, 2013 11:43 AM (7ObY1)

220 They own the public school system, too.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 22, 2013 11:30 AM (n8LUb)

Not as effective as the Television system. Children naturally rebel against THAT authority. The School system just leaves them ignorant, (mostly) the Television system fills them with false information.

Not saying it isn't an issue, it is. Just saying the worst damage comes from what they learn through entertainment.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:43 AM (bb5+k)

221 Also remember that it was Washington who voluntarily resigned the Presidency after his second term, a tradition that was only broken by a FUCKING Democrat, FDR. Subsequent to which the US Congress, in a brief flash of wisdom, amended the Constitution to term limit the office of President.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 11:44 AM (8sCoq)

222 That was vulgar, obscene, profane and, frankly, somewhat horrifying. Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 11:40 AM

That's totally inappropriate. It's lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous!

Posted by: Jackie Chiles, Esquire at February 22, 2013 11:44 AM (sbV1u)

223 Found in dumpster behind Planned Parenthood..
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn
***

Nope. Like all leftists he wasn't born so much as congealed in a gutter.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 11:45 AM (uhftQ)

224 >Wow, your kids must be in some kind of reactionary, backward
"school" for indoctrinating Hitler youth.

AKA 'public school'.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 11:45 AM (8sCoq)

225 When they're collaborationist pieces of shit more interested in playing kissy-face with the scum on the other side who are hell-bent on turning this country into a socialist hellhole? Goddamn fucking right, I do. Would you prefer I tongue his ass and say what a courageous fighter for the Constitution he is? Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 11:31 AM (zF6Iw)
Its your opinion that they are allcollaborationists. Its also your fucked up opinion that by questioning degenirating people on your side is the same as tongue kissing their ass.

Posted by: polynikes at February 22, 2013 11:45 AM (m2CN7)

226 The hate keeps me warm, so there's that.


In Tewkesbury, UK- 36 year old unemployed mother of 11 has her kids separated between two home.

Government to the rescue! Let's build her a new home (for free of course.)

---
With six bedrooms, three bathrooms, a huge kitchen and the very latest in energy-saving eco-friendly design, it is a house that a great many of us would be very happy to buy and move into.
---
But she is very humble and grateful -


‘It’s being built especially for me,’ she said. ‘If I go there and I say to them I don’t like it or it’s too small, then they will just have to build me a bigger one, won’t they?’

http://tinyurl.com/bl2zmuj

Posted by: RWC at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (fWAjv)

227 188 The Liberals have been kicking our ass by educationg people into their ideology using this exact technique; Propaganda disguised as entertainment.
They own the public school system, too.
____
True about the public school system, but I've been wondering about something. I knew some public school teachers a few years ago, and my wife has had a chance to meet even more as an admissions officer at a college. It's not just that the kids are being taught propaganda, it's that they're being taught incredibly poorly. Teachers can't actually teach concepts to save their lives. The lefty ideas get lodged in the kids' mushy heads not because the teachers are particularly skilled at agitprop, but because liberal ideas are attractive to lazy adolescent minds and are repeated day after day after day. In theory, could clever, engaging, funny conservative agitprop beat the droning 60's holdover feminazi in your AP history class in enough students' minds to move the needle?

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (SkFDg)

228 Duc d' Darling: With respect mon Empereur we are whoopsies. We invented the tapestry, the souffle, and the sweet liqueur. We will be slaughtered the minute we mince up the hill
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 11:42 AM (1Jaio)


*HEARTS*

Blackadder is second to none for pitch perfect quotes. Even Red Dwarf can't top it.

From Blackadder Goes Forth (WWI):

"Clearly, Field Marshal Haig is about to make yet another gargantuan effort to move his drinks cabinet six inches closer to Berlin."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (4df7R)

229 Wahngton's redebout strategy in case of a surge fascinated me. He was ready to guerrilla.

Posted by: Jean at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (XwRIg)

230
Bill Whittle for President.

http://tinyurl.com/b4p83yn.

Posted by: harleycowboy at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (+9AX9)

231 Slavery gets shit done. I actually saw this on a sweatshirt the other night. White guy wearing it in an, er...urban neighborhood.

You having a nice day sir? You feeling alright?

Posted by: Zeus Carver at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (BrQrN)

232 Speaking of dead presidents, Lincoln had this to say in a somewhat related time:

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure.

That's where we are today. We will see if a nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal can long endure. It's not looking good but it wasn't looking good in Lincoln's day either.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (XUKZU)

233 Forgive my ignorance, but who are the "green eyeshade" people? I've never heard the phrase before.

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:34 AM (SkFDg)

Rush used to use the term all the time. He meant people talking about numbers and deficits and revenues. The term "green eyeshade" comes from the fact that bankers and accountants used to wear green eyeshades because they had to constantly look at tabulations of accounts in ledgers.

It is a derogatory term Rush uses to refer to anyone who tries to make an accounting style argument to the American people. People in general find book keeping and accounting boring, and they don't want to listen to it no matter how important it is.

Rush says we need to be entertaining when we try to reach people, and I think this is exactly write. It is exactly what I did when I was politically active years ago, and it worked very very well.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:48 AM (bb5+k)

234 Slavery gets shit done. I actually saw this on a sweatshirt the other night. White guy wearing it in an, er...urban neighborhood.

Maybe he was trying to enact his own private version of Die Hard 3?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 11:49 AM (4df7R)

235 So TFG's "bitter clingers" insult is hundreds of years old, like the rest of his ideology.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 11:36 AM (B/VB5)



Yep. The British thought that those New England Puritan types were religious nuts, too. The Americans were shocked at the irreligiousness of the British in turn.


One thing that seems to crop up in a lot of different books I have read is that the Americans, particularly the New Englanders, were much closer to the mentality of the 17th century than were the British. That is one reason why the American colonists and the British crown saw things so differently - the Americans were much more aware of the 17th century conflicts over the limits of royal power than were the British, and so tended to interpret royal action very differently. One of the big problems with studying American history is thatpeople tend to overlook the religious wars of the 17th century, or portray the what came after as a reaction against the excesses, when in reality a lot of the political theory behind the Revolution was a logicaloutgrowth of ideas that causes that had been around for hundreds of years.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:49 AM (c9rJ5)

236 205 ---"My kids are in school. They have learned that Geo. Washington was a great American, right up there (almost) with Sojourner Truth."
Posted by: annoyed at February 22, 2013 11:39 AM (uEm7J)
----------------
THIS.
That is the way they do it in modern textbooks. They will continue to say Washington was great but will elevate all sorts of minor characters to his level, which ends up diminishing him. They'll spend two page on him and ten pages on the horrors of McCarthyism.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 22, 2013 11:49 AM (C8mVl)

237
I believe Andrew Jackson would have had someone horse-whipped


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 11:35 AM (8sCoq)

Had? No, he would have done it himself. I actually think he did.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:50 AM (bb5+k)

238 @233: Ross Perot did OK with an accounting style argument, although he did at least have visual aids. Plus his natural Teh Crazy made it more entertaining than it should have been.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 11:50 AM (B/VB5)

239 The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat what they say might be a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 11:50 AM (9Bj8R)

240 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:48 AM (bb5+k)
Got it - thanks Diogenes!

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:51 AM (SkFDg)

241 Bill Whittle for President.

http://tinyurl.com/b4p83yn.

Posted by: harleycowboy at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (+9AX9)


he could actually be our 3rd party runner

Posted by: beach tgif at February 22, 2013 11:51 AM (LpQbZ)

242 Forgive my ignorance, but who are the "green eyeshade" people? I've never heard the phrase before.
Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:34 AM (SkFDg)
it's a reference to accountants, number crunchers.

Posted by: spc at February 22, 2013 11:51 AM (CtffS)

243 Happy Birthday, Founder of Industries!

Posted by: Lace Wigs at February 22, 2013 11:52 AM (b+zn8)

244 The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat what they say might be a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 11:50 AM (9Bj8R)


Also called, "Ohshitohshitohshit, why'd we let so many illegals in here? Fuckfuckfuck. CYA time!"

All the more reason tos tay the hell away from LA.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 11:52 AM (4df7R)

245 239, with nukes

Posted by: Jean at February 22, 2013 11:53 AM (XwRIg)

246 >Ross Perot did OK with an accounting style argument, although he did at
least have visual aids. Plus his natural Teh Crazy made it more
entertaining than it should have been.


Now I'm thinking of Dana Carvey doing Ross Perot

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 11:53 AM (8sCoq)

247 When they're collaborationist pieces of shit more interested in playing kissy-face with the scum on the other side who are hell-bent on turning this country into a socialist hellhole? Goddamn fucking right, I do. Would you prefer I tongue his ass and say what a courageous fighter for the Constitution he is? Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
What a horrifying response. I was repulsed, yet strangly attracted.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 11:53 AM (uhftQ)

248
Good morning, y'all.

While admiring the Father of Our Country is certainly an appropriate commemoration on the day of his birth, the comparison of GW to the current Occupier of that office is yet further proof of just how screwed we are and how far we've fallen from the great men and ideas that founded this country.

SNAFU.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 11:53 AM (+z4pE)

249 Also called, "Ohshitohshitohshit, why'd we let so many illegals in here? Fuckfuckfuck. CYA time!"

Speaking of which, Insty had a story this morning that British people are now only 45% of the population of London. Your Liberal Betters in action, ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 11:54 AM (B/VB5)

250 Escape From L.A. I always thought it would be zombies that got them.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 22, 2013 11:54 AM (ZshNr)

251 #239. I'm a Californian I'm ashamed to say and TB has been on a rise for years.... Not to sound "racist"but most of the problem comes from our "Citizens without status" as the administration likes to call them...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 22, 2013 11:54 AM (9+ccr)

252 I don't think that was a fault, particularly since
independence wasn't a goal when the Revolution started even in the
colonies. I just wanted to point out that while he may have held the
same general principles as did the founders, he was from a different
country with different priorities and was not a direct influence on the
founders themselves.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:40 AM (c9rJ5)

Not necessarily Burke specifically, but his philosophy was consistent with the philosophy we adopted. A far greater influence on our actual founders was the work of Emerich de Vattel. "Droit des gens." It was more or less the blueprint for out US Constitution.

The philosophies of the various writers on the rights of man were in the upswing during this period.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:54 AM (bb5+k)

253
Sorry. Link screwed. Can't seem to get it to work.

Posted by: harleycowboy at February 22, 2013 11:56 AM (+9AX9)

254 Emerich de Vattel

I haven't heard that name before. Thanks. I'll have to look him up.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:56 AM (c9rJ5)

255 A: He married it and he made moonshine.

And he grew hemp. Washington was a long-haired rebellious pot farmer!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 22, 2013 11:57 AM (7ObY1)

256

Some of you could fuck up a free lunch.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 22, 2013 11:57 AM (eHNxr)

257 Forgive my ignorance, but who are the "green eyeshade" people? I've never heard the phrase before.



Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 11:34 AM (SkFDg)

Accountants and their ilk. You know, people born to be mild.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 22, 2013 11:58 AM (XUKZU)

258 And he grew hemp. Washington was a long-haired rebellious pot farmer! Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 22, 2013 11:57 AM

Whoa, dude. You're bakin' my noodle, man. Slow down.

Posted by: Typical Stoned OWS Protester at February 22, 2013 11:58 AM (sbV1u)

259
speaking of victuals...

it's time for vittles

Posted by: soothsayer at February 22, 2013 11:58 AM (0w+w3)

260 Some of you could fuck up a free lunch.

Is there such a thing? :p

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:58 AM (c9rJ5)

261 220 ---"The School system just leaves them ignorant, (mostly) the Television system fills them with false information.....the worst damage comes from what they learn through entertainment. "

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 11:43 AM (bb5+k)
-----------------
I couldn't agree more.
Perusing the claptrap that passes for textbooks today, I am comforted by the fact that most students can barely read them at all. Those that can will forget it all after the latest multiple-choice test.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 22, 2013 11:58 AM (C8mVl)

262
The philosophies of the various writers on the rights of man were in the upswing during this period.

You'd think, as they're under attack from the Left, these rights would enjoy a resurgence today.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 11:59 AM (+z4pE)

263 Aspiring Oakland Rapper Among Dead in Las Vegas Shooting.

Link over at Drudge. Some brief points:


A) Surprise surprise, his aunt says he was a "good man." Arent't they always?


B) His lawyer claims he didn't have a criminal history, but later in the article the LAT says that he DID have a criminal record, mostly for gun crimes, including at least one conviction as recently as 2007. So either is lawyer is lying or he lied to his lawyer, ne?


C) You won't hear a word about this on national news, just like you don't hear a word about the black on black violence anywhere else in the country, because that goes against the narrative that it's hickish, Bible thumping white crackas that shoot people, dontcha know.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:01 PM (4df7R)

264 And a "community organizer" sits in the Oval Office, legs on desk-feet crossed, spitting in the face of the United States. Meanwhile, Blackie O isn't so so ashamed of her Country anymore. All that free stuff is pretty damned nice.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:02 PM (wbmaj)

265 Email from me dear old Mum, aged 76:

I read a few weeks ago that 40% of people living in the UK considered English a second language. No assimilation there and it's the same here, England better wake up but I fear it is too late The England I knew has gone and that makes me very sad. Having said that the America I came to in the fifties has also gone. Don't know where we are going but will hang in there.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 12:02 PM (8sCoq)

266 #263 Now hold on. I'm sure he was just about to turn his life around.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:02 PM (wbmaj)

267 A) Surprise surprise, his aunt says he was a "good man." Arent't they always?



***

Yeah, four cans shy of a six pack was a good man, too. That is Tupac.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 22, 2013 12:03 PM (XUKZU)

268 It's not looking good but it wasn't looking good in Lincoln's day either.


Posted by: WalrusRex at February 22, 2013 11:47 AM (XUKZU)

I find it somewhat hypocritical for someone to invoke an event in history (four score and seven years ago. i.e. 1776) during which a small piece of a country broke off from the larger, and was successful in winning it's independence, while preventing the exact same sort of thing from happening. again.

What is the difference between the Colonies seceding and the South seceding? Why invoke the first successful attempt in support of stopping the second attempt?




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 12:03 PM (bb5+k)

269 #263 He was a success. He had been arrested 142 times-but only convicted twice. I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:03 PM (wbmaj)

270 Gotta go. Later peeps.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 12:04 PM (bb5+k)

271 I read a few weeks ago that 40% of people living in the UK considered English a second language. No assimilation there and it's the same here, England better wake up but I fear it is too late The England I knew has gone and that makes me very sad. Having said that the America I came to in the fifties has also gone. Don't know where we are going but will hang in there.
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 12:02 PM (8sCoq)


... Holy crap, Jones in CO, are you sure you're not me? That's exactly what my mother says, and she, too, came to the States from England in the 50's.

O___o

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:04 PM (4df7R)

272 We should all celebrate the great man's birthday by eating hoe cakes topped with honey, drinking very old whiskey, and slinging lead

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 12:04 PM (8sCoq)

273 I read a few weeks ago that 40% of people living in
the UK considered English a second language. No assimilation there and
it's the same here, England better wake up but I fear it is too late The
England I knew has gone and that makes me very sad. Having said that
the America I came to in the fifties has also gone. Don't know where we
are going but will hang in there.


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 12:02 PM (8sCoq)



Enoch Powell: Told you so

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 12:04 PM (1Jaio)

274 A Black Adder AND Red Dwarf reference in the same thread? Gearge would be proud.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 12:05 PM (uhftQ)

275 #263 Now hold on. I'm sure he was just about to turn his life around.
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:02 PM (wbmaj)


He only leaves behind TWO children (number of babymamas not listed). I'm sure that's got to represent a paradigm of restraint in Oakland.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:06 PM (4df7R)

276 #271 While England Slept. This time it's too late to wake up. There was no Battle of Britain. They fucking gave it away-just like us.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:06 PM (wbmaj)

277 George= Gearge

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 12:06 PM (uhftQ)

278 Aspiring Oakland Rapper

Isn't it great how rich white lefties have decided what is and isn't "authentically black"?

Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 12:06 PM (B/VB5)

279 "Aspiring nuclear physicist"

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:07 PM (wbmaj)

280 Sharpton: Obama Indicated “He Did Not Get All That He Wanted From The Rich”…

Still looking for that pound of flesh.

???? We are so fucked

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 12:08 PM (9Bj8R)

281 Isn't it great how rich white lefties have decided what is and isn't "authentically black"?
Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 12:06 PM (B/VB5)


I know, right?

Patronizing paternalism - it ain't just for chicks anymore!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:08 PM (4df7R)

282
Emerich de Vattel



I haven't heard that name before. Thanks. I'll have to look him up.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 11:56 AM (c9rJ5)

I believe he is the most quoted and referenced work from the founding era. He is mentioned in several of the states ratifying conventions. You will be surprised at how ubiquitous is Emerich de Vattel.
That book which George Washington didn't return to the Library? "Droit des Gens" (Law of Nations.) by Emerich de Vattel.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 22, 2013 12:08 PM (bb5+k)

283 Hoe Cakes

1 cup yellow cornmeal

1 cup whole wheat flour

1/4 cup sugar

1 tablespoon baking powder



1 egg

1/4 cup (1/2 stick) melted butter

1 ½ cups cold water or milk



Sift all dry ingredients together. Whisk the liquid, melted butter and egg together and add to the dry ingredients. Fold in gently only until all dry ingredients are moistened. Lumpy batter is O.K. Over mixing will result in tough cakes. Use about 1/4 cup of batter for each cake and bake on a heated heavy skillet or griddle just like you would any pan cake. Serve with butter and honey, syrup or molasses.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 12:09 PM (8sCoq)

284
268......What is the difference between the Colonies seceding and the South seceding? Why invoke the first successful attempt in support of stopping the second attempt?
---------------------------------------------
Well, to me, it comes down to adherence to parlimentary/legal matters,and colonial versus national integrity. The Colonists were British, but weren't allowed full rights. So there was a natural fault line, as it were. The South wasa fully integratedaspect of the USA.

Posted by: annoyed at February 22, 2013 12:09 PM (uEm7J)

285 265 --- The saddest thing about this is that, unlike the Romans, we are not even allowed to mourn the loss of a culture. To so much as suggest that the UK is not experiencing a glorious improvement instead of a woeful change is hideous blasphemy.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 22, 2013 12:09 PM (C8mVl)

286 Sharpton: Obama Indicated “He Did Not Get All That He Wanted From The Rich”…



Still looking for that pound of flesh.



???? We are so fucked

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 22, 2013 12:08 PM (9Bj8R)



And he never will. Barry will be railing against the "rich" and other imaginary villains to achieve his goals. Which is all community shake down artists do

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2013 12:09 PM (1Jaio)

287 When they're collaborationist pieces of shit more interested in playing kissy-face with the scum on the other side who are hell-bent on turning this country into a socialist hellhole? Goddamn fucking right, I do. Would you prefer I tongue his ass and say what a courageous fighter for the Constitution he is?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 11:31 AM (zF6Iw)

I know you've been getting some heat for this remark but I happen to agree with both content andtone. We're confronted by a now-not-so-stealthy Marxist socialist takeover of the country. Crucial elements of the Bill ofRights--freedom of speech and the right to bear arms--are under attack. Weneed to get angry. We need to get vicious. More and most importantly, we need to instill a certain amount of fear and trepedation in those who would rule rather than govern us. Convince these authoritarian bastards who have convinced themselves nothing can stop them that we can stop them, if push comes to shove.

No more nice. The prissy unwillingness of our elected leaders to confront theseunprincipled swineis killing the Republic.

Posted by: troyriser at February 22, 2013 12:10 PM (vtiE6)

288 Sharpton: Obama Indicated “He Did Not Get All That He Wanted From The Rich”…

No shit, Sharpy. Obammy won't get everything he wants from the rich* until everyone in this country is dressed in rags and scrounging for dead cats in the gutter for dinner.

*"Rich" being defined as, "Anyone who makes money somehow but who isn't me or people I like."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:10 PM (4df7R)

289
If it comes then, with the clearview now of what "These RED BASTARDS" think they are free in impose upon men who still call themselves "FREE MEN,".... then let them do go foreward and strike the match which will EXPLODE their body ideology andincinerate to dust their hatefulbeing from the face of this earth....no measure..no quarter... if men are to remain free..
this vile form......must be no more! They have shown themselves to us fully now and we must fill thered coffins........

To arms...my brothers....to arms


I was born 278 years too late....

Always missing the BRASS RING!

Posted by: Richard at February 22, 2013 12:10 PM (SpEuH)

290
I read a few weeks ago that 40% of people living in the UK considered English a second language. No assimilation there and it's the same here, England better wake up but I fear it is too late The England I knew has gone and that makes me very sad. Having said that the America I came to in the fifties has also gone. Don't know where we are going but will hang in there.

It's a bit late for that. The ruling elites in Britain decided to import some new constituents, since the natives were resistant to the idea of a New World Order (a phrase that I was surprised to hear in a Three Stooges clip made back in the '40's).

The same thing is happening here and both sides are guilty. Just ignore the law and allow a porous border (a Soros initiative), don't require assimilation, do business in multiple languages and viola!, the old country is gone. Two generations of this is all you need.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 12:10 PM (+z4pE)

291 The opening of the London Olympics said it all. Game, set, match.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:10 PM (wbmaj)

292 Hoe Cakes

*bites lip to prevent self from making crude Sandy Fluke joke

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:11 PM (4df7R)

293 #288 In Obama/Sharpton speak, "rich" means "whites."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:12 PM (wbmaj)

294 OT: If Truman North is here, change your damn twitter password, you've been hacked!

Posted by: Ma Bell at February 22, 2013 12:12 PM (uVuwp)

295 Hoe Cakes

1 cup yellow cornmeal

1 cup whole wheat flour

1/4 cup sugar

1 tablespoon baking powder

1 Sandra Fluke

1 egg

1/4 cup (1/2 stick) melted butter

1 ½ cups cold water or milk


FIFY.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 12:12 PM (B/VB5)

296 Again, I say it for the UK and US--Demographics equals Destiny.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:13 PM (wbmaj)

297 271 MWR,

I got here a bit earlier if you use the notion of blooodline history but I'm pretty sure my great great line going back to ~1680 is wondering when in the hell it became a crime to be English....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 12:14 PM (LRFds)

298 Good book, of Washington and the Revolution: Almost a Miracle, by John Ferling.

Posted by: annoyed at February 22, 2013 12:14 PM (uEm7J)

299 >Hoe Cakes



*bites lip to prevent self from making crude Sandy Fluke joke

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:11 PM (4df7R)

I know, I know'hoe cakes' get their name because they were sometimes prepared on the back of a heated shovel blade

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 22, 2013 12:14 PM (8sCoq)

300 Again, I say it for the UK and US--Demographics equals Destiny.
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:13 PM (wbmaj)


You can add the stinky French to that, too. And the Scandis.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:14 PM (4df7R)

301 PeeeeeeeeeeUuuuuuuuuuu this thread be ripe!

Posted by: maddogg at February 22, 2013 12:14 PM (OlN4e)

302 Hoe Cakes
*bites lip to prevent self from making crude Sandy Fluke joke
Posted by: MWR


*Drops silverware on plate*

I'm not impressed with your attitude tonight missy. Now I better hear a joke about the size of Sandra Fluke's meat drawer or you'll get no dessert!

Posted by: Moron Daddy at February 22, 2013 12:16 PM (BrQrN)

303 Mitch Fucking McConnell: "I strongly disagree with the President and the Majority Leader on all of these points. By the way, Harry, where is the cocktail party in Georgetown tonight? See you there, my dear friend."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:16 PM (wbmaj)

304 Uh oh. It turns out that abortion is just one step removed from cannibalism.

""Abortion Group Hires Obama-Linked Consulting Firm to Grill Pro-Lifers at Home"--headline, DailyCaller.com, Feb.20"

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 22, 2013 12:16 PM (XUKZU)

305 "Aspiring" Rapper == Unemployed black yoot. Remember when newspapers used to print the truth?

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 22, 2013 12:16 PM (RSqz2)

306 #301 Scratch n sniff.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:16 PM (wbmaj)

307
294
OT: If Truman North is here, change your damn twitter password, you've been hacked!

Posted by: Ma Bell at February 22, 2013 12:12 PM (uVuwp)


He's been told that, repeatedly, over the last couple days.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 12:16 PM (da5Wo)

308 305"Aspiring" Rapper == Unemployed black yoot. Remember when newspapers used to print the truth?
Posted by: Nighthawk at February 22, 2013 12:16 PM (RSqz2) Nope.

Posted by: maddogg at February 22, 2013 12:17 PM (OlN4e)

309 You can add the stinky French to that, too. And the Scandis.

And Japan and Russia. Although Japan has near-zero immigration, while Russia's being flooded with Islamists.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 12:17 PM (B/VB5)

310 The opening of the London Olympics said it all. Game, set, match.

***

Dancing bed pans for the win!

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 22, 2013 12:17 PM (XUKZU)

311 296 ----"Again, I say it for the UK and US--Demographics equals Destiny."
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:13 PM (wbmaj)

Yep.
Now, I will say that the US is better off than the UK in that the great majority of our immigrants are Mexican.
Let me put it this way, although I don't want to live in EITHER, I would much rather live in Mexico than in Pakistan.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 22, 2013 12:17 PM (C8mVl)

312 I got here a bit earlier if you use the notion of blooodline history but I'm pretty sure my great great line going back to ~1680 is wondering when in the hell it became a crime to be English....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 12:14 PM (LRFds)


Yeah, my mother was 14 when she got here in '57. My paternal grandfather was born in England and came here while he was still a baby. My paternal grandmother's last name was Carrigan, so you know there was plenty of Irish on that branch of the family tree.

I see what Britain's become today and it hurts me personally. I'm American through and through, but roots matter.I think of the family buried over there in Merrye Olde England and mourn that I'll NEVER get to know the country where they lived and died. It's been dead for decades.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:18 PM (4df7R)

313 He only leaves behind TWO children (number of
babymamas not listed). I'm sure that's got to represent a paradigm of
restraint in Oaklandthe US.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:06 PM (4df7R)



Fixed unfortunately.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 12:18 PM (da5Wo)

314 The Mexican-American majority won't make us wear beards and hijabs and don't cut people's heads off, so there's that.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more Assault & at February 22, 2013 12:19 PM (FsUAO)

315 Hoe Cakes

fine or coarse corn meal?
or, does it matter?

Posted by: beach tgif at February 22, 2013 12:19 PM (LpQbZ)

316
Sharpton: Obama Indicated “He Did Not Get All That He Wanted From The Rich”…





Still looking for that pound of flesh.

***

I'm pretty sure that's racist.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 22, 2013 12:19 PM (XUKZU)

317 305 "Aspiring" Rapper == Unemployed black yoot. Remember when newspapers used to print the truth?
____
All he wanted was to join the likes of Jay-Z and lil Wayne. You know, the 1%.

Posted by: Dante at February 22, 2013 12:19 PM (SkFDg)

318
Wow, this thread is still on top?

I think the post needs to be amended: I believe it is now 282 years...

Posted by: BurtTC at February 22, 2013 12:19 PM (TOk1P)

319 Hey, there's a reason "Bait Car" is filmed mostly in Oakland.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2013 12:19 PM (B/VB5)

320 I'm not impressed with your attitude tonight missy. Now I better hear a joke about the size of Sandra Fluke's meat drawer or you'll get no dessert!

Posted by: Moron Daddy at February 22, 2013 12:16 PM (BrQrN)



*sticks tongue out* Nyah nyah! Shan't!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:20 PM (4df7R)

321 #311 I see hell. I seeour soon to be"new" minority hounded and savaged on all sides. Assimilation? This is self-immolation. Only the ashes will be left.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 22, 2013 12:20 PM (wbmaj)

322
lol. it took 318 entries to find a thread winner.....

Posted by: annoyed at February 22, 2013 12:21 PM (uEm7J)

323 Can I substitute yeast for the baking soda?

Posted by: Dandy Sandy Fluke at February 22, 2013 12:21 PM (fWAjv)

324 I think the post needs to be amended: I believe it is now 282 years...
Posted by: BurtTC at February 22, 2013 12:19 PM (TOk1P)


lol!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:21 PM (4df7R)

325 Its your opinion that they are allcollaborationists.

Exhibit A:
"My friends, you have nothing to fear from a Barack Obama presidency."

Blow me.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 22, 2013 12:22 PM (zF6Iw)

326 Local reporter visits Oakland in Bentley. Leaves Oakland in rented Civic.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:22 PM (4df7R)

327 Like me.....nood

Posted by: Helen Thomas at February 22, 2013 12:22 PM (BrQrN)

328 *sticks tongue out* Nyah nyah! Shan't!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:20 PM (4df7R)


*sidles over*

Quite the tongue you've got there.

Say, want to get back at your Daddy? I know something that will really tick him off.....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 22, 2013 12:23 PM (da5Wo)

329 NOOD! Finally!

And it's about porno Menendez, too! WOO!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 22, 2013 12:23 PM (4df7R)

330 Aspiring yoot was convicted in 2007 on 'gun charges.' (Apparently arrested many more times, but that is the only conviction.)


Oh, also a pimp.

Stand up gent really.

Posted by: RWC at February 22, 2013 12:23 PM (fWAjv)

331 Hoe cake- Ingredients
Sandra fluke
Bill Clinton
Rachel Maddow

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2013 12:24 PM (uhftQ)

332 Hoe Cakes

I just make them with cornmeal, enough water to make a batter the consistency of pancake batter, and a bit of salt. Fry in an oily pan. Use a lot of oil - the oil makes the difference between a crumbly mess of dried-up cornmeal and a tasty piece of flat cornbread.
They are cheap, filling, taste ok, and a snap to clean up, but more suited to someone leading a physically active life thanI do, I think. I imagine they would make a good emergency food, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 22, 2013 12:24 PM (c9rJ5)

333 We are at the point where we have to import the third world types to support the Ponzi scheme old age programs we have set up. Much of need comes from the fact that we have aborted 10's of millions of fetus' poised to be citizens. We are not far behind London when it come to demographic collapse.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 22, 2013 12:25 PM (jucos)

334 Son't get me started on the Honda Civic. It is a perfect anology to the fucked up society we have become. Too many, too uninspired, too politically correct, too small, too faceless, too boring.

Posted by: maddogg at February 22, 2013 12:25 PM (OlN4e)

335
I see what Britain's become today and it hurts me personally. I'm American through and through, but roots matter.I think of the family buried over there in Merrye Olde England and mourn that I'll NEVER get to know the country where they lived and died. It's been dead for decades.

I mourn that my little GGson will never know the America I grew up in. Hell, I don't even recognize it any more.

National pride is now verboten. Love your country and her traditions? You're just not a Citizen of the World. How old-fashioned of you...

Such is the subtlety of evil that "popular culture" is now the driver of politics, instead of the other way around. Remember "truth, justice, and the American Way?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 22, 2013 12:26 PM (+z4pE)

336 All I heard yesterday what a waste of Talent JJ Junior was and could have been for his people..And today nothing but peg leggs in the News , WGAF?

Posted by: Clemenza at February 22, 2013 12:26 PM (Snhap)

337 New one

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2013 12:26 PM (53z96)

338 312 MWR,

It's our motherland and there would never have been an America without their being a freer than her peers England. We are supposed to be her zany misguided oldest son who took her blandishments vis a vis the greatness of the unfettered man more seriously. I am an American, I am also English at heart and George Washington would've said the same.

I do most sincerely wonder had the founders known how weak willed and unworthy of our God given innate freedom we hold ourselves whether or not they'd have bent on knee and begged the King to ponder once more their complaint?

What grieved them was the lack of voice as being held as less worthy than a London guttersnipe at having voice to destiny.

The genuine rage at guidance from on high came later.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 12:27 PM (LRFds)

339 314 HoboJerky,

do NOT look at the Cancun daily news from last month my friend....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 22, 2013 12:28 PM (LRFds)

340
Attention AL SHARPTON!!!!.....................
(The following post was redacted due to it being SO #$%^!!@#@# TRUE DAT!!)
Bedtime.... before I step long and hard into MSM styled Monkey pooh fling fest.....and I so want to......

night/morning/whatever your M will M.

Posted by: Richard at February 22, 2013 12:29 PM (SpEuH)

341
Martha was a real hottie.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at February 22, 2013 12:31 PM (mETGQ)

342 Mount Vernon is a must-see for every true American. I found it pretty moving to see the room where Washington drew his last breath, thanks to the wisdom and consensus of 18th century doctors.

I pray every day that I live to see the day the government of the United States is violently overthrown.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 22, 2013 12:39 PM (Ec6wH)

343 I'd like to hear Barry's Farewell Address.

Right now. While I'm having lunch.


Which, of course, is a lie. I don't really want to hear Teh Imbecilic Gasbag speak. I just want to hear about it, that it happened. I imagine that the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the supplicant Media will be enormous. I'll make popcorn and pull out an extra bottle of Scotch.

Then maybe Barry will just get a gig on MSNBC, and then I can REALLY forget about him.

Posted by: dissent555 at February 22, 2013 01:04 PM (yR6A1)

344 Today would have been my father's 94th birthday but he died in his 40's in the 60's. He was a WWII vet. Today would have been my Mother-in laws 91st birthday but she died in her 60's of heart disease. She was a wonderful Christian woman who helped out her neighbors with money when they had trouble although she was trying to raise 6 kids on a working class salary of her husband. I am grateful for them both and for George Washington too, of course

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 22, 2013 01:09 PM (PxYrx)

345 We all down at the Brattleboro Womens Reproductive Clinic and Pregnancy Decision Center think Presdent Obama's speeches probably are the best of any US Presdent... Presdent Obama is a gifted orator and has a plan to guide this country to prospearity.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at February 22, 2013 01:40 PM (3lMGK)

346 Well said, George.

Posted by: and irresolute at February 22, 2013 01:42 PM (DBH1h)

347 Speaking of Sandra Fluke, did you know that the porn star of the movie "Cum Dumpsters" was born today?

Yes, Jenna Haze was born today in 1982 and she doesn't need the your tax dollars to buy her contraceptives!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 22, 2013 02:04 PM (iAUf+)

348 Alexander Hamilton wrote the Farewell Address. He was almost as much of a badass as Washington.

Posted by: 5ftflirt at February 22, 2013 10:42 PM (m2rOE)






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