Furloughs Could Increase Security Lines at Airports By An Hour

Up to three hours, in total, as apparently some lines currently take two hours. (??!!)

Customs furloughs will hit especially hard in international passenger areas where check-ins for those returning to or visiting the United States can experience two hour waits already. "Wait times getting back into the country projected at three or more hours," said a travel industry source. A Democratic review of sequester cuts added, "At the busiest airports, the increase in peak airport wait times would regularly reach three or more hours. These delays would dramatically impact air travel, potentially causing thousands of missed passenger connections daily, and negatively impact our economy."

I'm not sure if this is at all true-- or a bureaucracy attempting to create alarmism to protect their share of the Federal Tax Pie.

If we don't have the money to fund the NEA's newest rage, Security Theater, how about we cut back on some of the theatricality?

But those defense layoffs Obama said wouldn't happen? The layoffs he instructed employers to not warn about, as they were required to under the law? So that he wouldn't have 800,000 layoff letters going out before an election?

Yeah they're happening, just as everyone thought they would.

Obama wanted to cut these jobs-- he just didn't want people to know they were being cut before the election.

I'd like to see some prosecutions of all those who rolled under Obama and disobeyed the law because a man without the power to suspend the law told them to.

Let people know there are consequences for obeying illegal orders. As there are in the Army.

Posted by: Ace at 06:38 PM



Comments

1 And for those who voted for Obama and are now layed off,HA HA HA HA HA ,assholes!

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 06:39 PM (9XBK2)

2 Yeah, I'm sure Holder will get right on those prosecutions.

Posted by: SamIam at February 20, 2013 06:39 PM (S09w5)

3 Those damn Republicans!

Posted by: LIV at February 20, 2013 06:41 PM (wsGWu)

4 Then you're doing it wrong! Cut the TSA entirely and things go faster.

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2013 06:41 PM (FcR7P)

5
Let me get this straight, the sequestration will lay off TSA workers?

I say "double the sequestration fellas".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2013 06:42 PM (p/cQy)

6 I missed the earlier Chris Christie thread but in case anyone missed it fat boy said he agrees with Andrew Cuomo 98% of the time.He is now trying to backtrack on that statement.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 06:42 PM (9XBK2)

7 2 hours 5 minutes to clear immigration at CLT from Munich. Just one plane load.

Posted by: Eurw at February 20, 2013 06:42 PM (oINmw)

8
Did they vote for The Vapid One? Then they got what they voted for.

Neener, neener, neener.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 06:43 PM (+z4pE)

9 The WARN Act can be enforced by laid off employees in private litigation, so, yeah, bring on the lawsuits.

Posted by: RFR at February 20, 2013 06:43 PM (FuFVX)

10 Wait...the MSM told me these layoffs are happening because the evil Repubs are blocking progress and won't work with our Savior.

Posted by: Icedog at February 20, 2013 06:43 PM (ZolUS)

11 New mandatory TSA training: speed groping

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 06:43 PM (/gHaE)

12
I'd like to see that too ace, but remember the DOL issued guidance to contractors to ignore the WARN Act, and promised to pay legal defense and any penalties that arose. Even if employees took civil action.


So Preznit Awesome told em they could ignore the law, and if there were consequences the taxpayer would cover em.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 20, 2013 06:44 PM (Jm7mj)

13 DO AWAY WITH THE TSA.

DO AWAY WITH THE TSA.

DO AWAY WITH THE TSA.

DO AWAY WITH THE TSA.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 06:44 PM (O8sZf)

14 They just want money. Too bad. Everyone else is losing their jobs. About time those attached to the government teats lose theirs, too.

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 20, 2013 06:45 PM (6J6x7)

15 9 - didn't the won say the fed would cover lawsuit costs if the companies delayed sending out the notices? I seem to recall miss Lindsey got a bit steamed over that

Posted by: Eurw at February 20, 2013 06:45 PM (oINmw)

16
So where can I find this Federal Tax Pie you speak of?

Posted by: Chris Christie at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (p/cQy)

17 and promised to pay legal defense and any penalties that arose.

The expiration date on that promise was about 5 seconds after it was uttered.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (/gHaE)

18 I missed the earlier Chris Christie thread but in case anyone missed it fat boy said he agrees with Andrew Cuomo 98% of the time.He is now trying to backtrack on that statement.

What is wrong with Chris Christie? Did he knock up some former governor's daughter or something?

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (T0NGe)

19
The WARN Act can be enforced by laid off employees in private litigation, so, yeah, bring on the lawsuits.
Don't forget, TFG told the employers that the Govt would pay any fines they incurred because they didn't put the notices out on time. "This statement is no longer operative."

Posted by: Panhandler at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (rZ5RE)

20 The more the media screams "Panic!!!" the more I want this sequester to happen.

Posted by: Baldy at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (opS9C)

21 13 The whole fucking DHS was another huge GW Bush fuck up.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (9XBK2)

22 I've contended that our current budget crisis gives us the opportunity to eliminate entire departments.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (+z4pE)

23 Need a hand frisking those kids?

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pederast of Searchlight at February 20, 2013 06:47 PM (FcR7P)

24 My Amish question was meant for introspection. It really does cut to the heart of the matter of "control" and "autonomy" and the delicate balance required.

I wouldbe in horror if my 13 year old daughter would think about marriage. But how does my "horror" and most of our generic cultural norms allow us to dictate or influence or limit other free individuals' ability to practice their religion.

The same could be said for female circumsion. I don't know the answers to these questions, but it centers around a fundamental debate of the individual versus society and when can society step in and tell an individual, no, what you want to do is so horrific that it cannot be tolerated.

MUMR: You stay classy. As far as the Colorado gun control legislation goes, my counter is that Dems control every level of the executive and legislative branches, and gun control is DOA there. So there's definitely hope!

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 06:47 PM (tVTLU)

25 Into the mud scum queen!

Posted by: Man with two brains at February 20, 2013 06:47 PM (NGsLN)

26 So Preznit Awesome told em they could ignore the law, and if there were consequences the taxpayer would cover em.
Posted by: Dave in Texas


Yep.

And to complete the circle the class action lawsuits will be filed by which Obama donor group again?

The Trial Lawyers!! DING DING DING!

Damages to the lawyers, lawyers donate money to the Dems, and around we go again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 20, 2013 06:47 PM (Ipj15)

27
I am so sick of this....

Every time... Fed, State, or the Locals... have to have "cuts"... the front line services get whacked first.

They will cut teachers, cops, firefighters, soldiers, hold up tax refunds or.... in this case ... amke your trek through the airport 50% longer than it is now. The bloated effing beauracracy never feels the axe.

WHY DO THEY DO THIS???

Why?.... fuck you peasant... pay me.. Thats why

Posted by: fixerupper at February 20, 2013 06:47 PM (9MmIU)

28 "We will be closing all national parks..."
in 5, 4, 3, 2...
This is straight out of the DNC Manifesto: Don't get what you want? Fuck with people* at every point of government contact.
* Read: People who are NOT in the FSA

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 20, 2013 06:48 PM (M0O7A)

29 "21 13 The whole fucking DHS was another huge GW Bush fuck up.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (9XBK2) "

Well, i'd say it was one of the few W fuckups. At least before the last two years or so.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 06:48 PM (O8sZf)

30
I've contended that our current budget crisis gives us the opportunity to eliminate entire departments.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM



Well, it would, except that nobody in Washington wants anything cut because it might be somebody's pet spending project.

Posted by: huerfano at February 20, 2013 06:48 PM (bAGA/)

31 "At the busiest airports, the increase in peak airport wait times would regularly reach three or more hours. These delays would dramatically impact air travel, potentially causing thousands of missed passenger connections daily, and negatively impact our economy."

Yeah because it is impossible for travel agents/passengers to book tickets on connecting flights that depart an hour+ later than the ones they would currently book.

Posted by: angienc at February 20, 2013 06:48 PM (w3JGl)

32 One can drive two hundred miles in three hours.

Posted by: BuddyPC at February 20, 2013 06:49 PM (jfUIE)

33 "22 I've contended that our current budget crisis gives us the opportunity to eliminate entire departments.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 06:46 PM (+z4pE) "

Does anyone still have Perry's list?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 06:49 PM (O8sZf)

34 2 hours 5 minutes to clear immigration at CLT from Munich. Just one plane load.

Better you are held up than valuable voters from Mexico...

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2013 06:49 PM (FcR7P)

35
Big DoD contractors like Northrop Grumman, the first to belly up to this deal have already been hurting like hell with the war drawdown, and no budget which means only existing work can be funded, no new work can be funded.

No way they agree to it without assurances they get the cover. And I ain't talkin about the DOL public guidance.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 20, 2013 06:49 PM (Jm7mj)

36 @gopconference Tax dollars at work: govt paid $1.2 million to study seniors playing World of Warcraft http://tinyurl.com/bg8njug Instead of tax hikes #CutWaste

Posted by: 80sBaby at February 20, 2013 06:50 PM (YjDyJ)

37 Correction: I meant to say in MN gun control is dead. Not sure about how it shakes out in CO.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 06:50 PM (tVTLU)

38 so it looks like sequestration is inevitable. Is it possible that the JEF knows the economy is about to crash, and unemployment climb, and he wants the sequestration so he can blame it on the republicans, knowing that seqestration has nothing to do with it.

In other words he just killed somebody so he starts a fire to hide the crime. We are about to fall off a cliff so he needs the sequestration to blame it on that? And then ride to the rescue?

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 06:50 PM (Dnbau)

39 Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 06:47 PM (tVTLU)

Well, it was nice of you to STFU for a while.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 06:51 PM (O8sZf)

40 I would love to see some lawsuits come out of this. I seriously doubt that Obama will come through on his word that the government will pay for the defense. He's re-elected now. Why the fuck would he care?

Posted by: Marmo at February 20, 2013 06:51 PM (pcgW1)

41 >>Does anyone still have Perry's list?<<

I know 2 but forgot the third.

/low hanging fruit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2013 06:51 PM (p/cQy)

42
"I'm not sure if this is at all true-- or a bureaucracy attempting to create
alarmism to protect their share of the Federal Tax Pie."
^^ This. X 10,000. Local/neighborhood (N. Va. DC burbs)chats are full of"OMG w/o us the public will DIE" threads comments, to the point of being rather obnoxious - esp. the comments as to why the "rest" of the country "doesn't appreciate their efforts".
Yep, gag inducing, but they honestly believe they have a right to your wallet.

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 06:52 PM (lbiWb)

43 Both bushies were serious fuck ups; gutless too .

Posted by: Frito Plover, Esq. at February 20, 2013 06:52 PM (UsR5V)

44 Obama is now pointing at his left arm signaling to the bullpen that he needs a relief underwear bomber to create another crisis caused by laying off TSA professionals.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at February 20, 2013 06:52 PM (szREE)

45 We just had to pass that ~$60 billion pork-filled "Sandy Relief" bill a few weeks ago but now $85 billion of cuts this FY are going to kill us?

Give me a fuckin' break.

Posted by: Andy at February 20, 2013 06:52 PM (OZPoa)

46 I did the math a couple years back on a 1,000 mile round trip and it's cheaper and faster to drive. Plus I can pull over and smoke a cigarette once in a while.

Before TSA, I flew.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 20, 2013 06:52 PM (feFL6)

47 Obama broke the law?

The hell you say!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 06:53 PM (zpqa2)

48 Lordy is that Spurwing Plover

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 06:53 PM (Dnbau)

49 Paying damages for illegal behavior isnt in the budget -- damn republicans !!!!

Posted by: Man with two brains at February 20, 2013 06:53 PM (NGsLN)

50 One of my best friends is coming to visit me next month and she decided since it's only an 8 hour drive, it'll be faster to drive then to deal with all the bullshit at the airports. Mind you, I live within 20 minutes of an airport and she's probably half an hour or so away from one. I agree with her though, unless it's cross country, it's pretty much getting to the point it's faster to drive.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 20, 2013 06:53 PM (Gk3SS)

51 who exactly is the target for this type of information. I am so confused.
1, we are supposed to resent the 1% that regularly takes int. flights.
2, we are supposed to use less green house destroying fuel and raising the price of travel, either by increasing dollar cost or time cost is good.

So how can this be bad? it is pro-socialist, pro-environment and even pro union since we feel bad for the tsa humps that have to deal with passengers instead of talking and making trips to their cars with passenger loot.

On the other hand, the non socialists like me are happy to watch it burn if it cuts spending a couple of bucks.
How can this be bad news?

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at February 20, 2013 06:54 PM (zZJJp)

52 "41 >>Does anyone still have Perry's list?<<

I know 2 but forgot the third.

/low hanging fruit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2013 06:51 PM (p/cQy)"

:-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 06:54 PM (O8sZf)

53 White House announces anti-theft trade strategy
The administration report didn't threaten any specific consequences
for theft of trade secrets, and no new fines or other trade actions were
announced. It included five actions to protect American innovation:

- Applying diplomatic pressure by senior officials to foreign leaders to discourage theft.

- Promoting best practices to help industries protect against theft.

- Enhancing U.S. law enforcement operations to increase investigations and prosecutions.

- Reviewing U.S. laws to determine if they need to be strengthened to protect against theft.

- Beginning a public awareness campaign.

http://tinyurl.com/bchpk6w


That'll work -- scare 10B hackers to DEATH, it will.





Posted by: SMARTEST MAN IN TEH eROOM! at February 20, 2013 06:54 PM (bGlsD)

54 100% they do this every time. At every level of government, Democrats do this and have done this my whole life.

1. Plot to cut ONLY the services voters care most about.

2. Scream about the disaster that will occur when they deliberately cut these and only these services.

3. Engage in extortion via this process to get more money.

4. Spend the money on cronies, hookers, and booze.

5. Run out of money, threaten to cut the same services if they don't get more money.

It's the "police, firemen and teachers" gambit.

If we don't shove it down the fucking public's throat every fucking day they will get away with it again and again until we're all bankrupt.

I tell practically everyone I talk to about this. So should you.

Extortion on this scale is a fucking felony and people like this should be in fucking jail, but we all know the Rule of Law is dead. We have to turn the mob (who are being extorted) against them for doing it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 20, 2013 06:54 PM (bxiXv)

55 He's re-elected now. Why the fuck would he care?

Posted by: Marmo at February 20, 2013 06:51 PM (pcgW1)

I really don't think he would care during the first term, either. Just sayin.
Has anyone called him on anything? Ever?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 06:54 PM (zpqa2)

56
I always contend that there will never be cuts or a govt shutdown of alot of things because both sides know that people might figure out that they don't need the federal govt.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2013 06:55 PM (p/cQy)

57 The important thing is that not one single ObamaPhone will be denied, and no subsidy-seeking 'green jobs' Obama Donor will go unpaid.

Posted by: zsasz at February 20, 2013 06:55 PM (MMC8r)

58 50 Not cheap though,thanks to Preznit "energy prices will necessarily skyrocket".

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 06:55 PM (9XBK2)

59 This is easily solved--the TSA just needs to start a fashion line.

Posted by: Anna Wintour at February 20, 2013 06:55 PM (r2PLg)

60 "43 Both bushies were serious fuck ups; gutless too .

Posted by: Frito Plover, Esq. at February 20, 2013 06:52 PM (UsR5V) "

Sure. Why not. Electing Clinton worked out great, for example.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 06:55 PM (O8sZf)

61 I did the math a couple years back on a 1,000 mile round trip and it's
cheaper and faster to drive. Plus I can pull over and smoke a cigarette
once in a while.


500 miles, it's faster to drive. 1000 (Denver / Houston), I get the urge to stop at a hotel somewhere in north Texas.

Cheaper, sure, and you can bring luggage and shaving foam.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2013 06:55 PM (QTHTd)

62 I no longer travel to meet in person. Video conference instead. Why bother.

Posted by: Man with two brains at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (NGsLN)

63 I wonder if Frito is Spurwing Plover, member him

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (Dnbau)

64 @27: This is what's called the "Firemen First Principle." If a city is faced with budget cuts, they announce that they're going to have to cut a popular and important program -- like closing some fire stations. Or if, say, the National Park Service has a budget cut, they won't lay off employees at Gates of the Arctic National Park in Alaska -- they'll close the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument in Washington, D.C.

TSA has a lot of critics, but strangely enough there are a significant number of people who think they are doing just fine, I'm not sure why. And they certainly perform a high-visibility function of the government -- people will notice if the security lines really are running that long.

More likely, though, I think TSA will try to keep the line moving by groping fewer people -- probably only the most attractive ones.

Posted by: Joshua at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (oCZ4e)

65
Does anyone still have Perry's list?

The only reason he was stumped on that question is that there are so many to choose from.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (+z4pE)

66
"Before TSA, I flew."
Until that bridge across the Atlantic is done I kinda have to... but reading the link is funny - sure, check times can be short - but a loaded 747 Heavy from FRA to IAD and you're not getting thru Customs any time soon anyhow.

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (lbiWb)

67 "47 Obama broke the law?

The hell you say!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 06:53 PM (zpqa2) "

Obama cannot break the law. He is the law.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (O8sZf)

68 How about a television show starring Barack Obama as president where occasionally he says something funny and then flashes one of those beaming smiles at the camera thus breaking the fourth wall like Norman Fell did on Three's Company? The show would be called "Oh, That Barry!"

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (BuSM8)

69 "Barack the Blameless, Part II"- http://bit.ly/XxljqE

"The President's Sequester: A Timeline"- http://bit.ly/YGUNtb

Posted by: 80sBaby at February 20, 2013 06:57 PM (YjDyJ)

70
"The Transportation Security Administration (TSA), a division of the Department of Transportation, has mandated that all U.S. airlines add a security fee to all tickets sold on or after October 1, 2003. This government-imposed fee, called the "September 11th Security Fee," will be used to pay the government's cost for providing Federal civil aviation security services. This includes training, salaries, and benefits for the Federal security screeners and law enforcement personnel, as well as the Federal Air Marshal program."

TSA agents are supposedly paid for by a fee we pay per ticket issued.
Yet TFG has the balls (or not) to highlight screening as a "service" to
cut?

Posted by: Rule #2 at February 20, 2013 06:58 PM (CypDC)

71 Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the sequestration only
reducing the amount of budget increase? There aren't really any "cuts".
AT ALL

Posted by: Roman Maroni at February 20, 2013 06:58 PM (KCCgc)

72 Obama is now pointing at his left arm signaling to the bullpen that he
needs a relief underwear bomber to create another crisis caused by
laying off TSA professionals.


Didn't the underwear bomber pretty much prove the entire TSA apparatus was worthless?

Posted by: Methos at February 20, 2013 06:58 PM (hO9ad)

73 Beginning a public awareness campaign.

That'll work -- scare 10B hackers to DEATH, it will.

Posted by: SMARTEST MAN


I wonder how one gets a piece of this chronically issued edict of 'public awareness.'

There has to be some serious cash in that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 20, 2013 06:58 PM (Ipj15)

74 Obama cannot break the law. He is the law.


I AM THE LAW!!

Posted by: Judge Barack Hussein Dredd at February 20, 2013 06:59 PM (MMC8r)

75 This is how liberals do it.

Spending cuts are managed so as to be as painful as possible for the public. We are held hostage over our need for police, firefighters, and teachers so that the 90% of useless gov leeches can keep getting their fill.

A republic would cut an agencies budget by 20% and offer a $1M bonus to the manger who could make it happen painlessly.

Also, boo hoo, bitch on Rush today was like we federal workers haven't got a raise in 4 years.

DaFuq?

Most people's pay has been cut in half, at least, you asshole leaches.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 06:59 PM (QxSug)

76
Plus I can pull over and smoke a cigarette once in a while.

I smoke while I drive. If I pull over, it's only to make room for more Guinness.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 06:59 PM (+z4pE)

77 71 Yeah,they are basically minor and way below what is really needed but look at both sides scream about them.This is why we are boned(well,one reason among many).

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 06:59 PM (9XBK2)

78
"This is what's called the "Firemen First Principle"
Yep, what you guys said. FWIW, it's not extortion if your Gov't does it...

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 07:00 PM (lbiWb)

79
There is no law.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2013 07:00 PM (p/cQy)

80 the people this will affect the most are business travelers. Believe it or not the most frequent travelers are probably investment bankers. From the big banks. That bankrolled Obama. And a little to Mitt too. With big deep pockets for political campaigns. The type of people who become bundlers. Who will bitch if they are inconvenienced. To RINOS. Split the party, break the party. That is the JEF's goal

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 07:01 PM (Dnbau)

81 Ace
I have family members who've already been fired by Obama's defense cuts. Uncle's last day was today. Got two weeks notice ... two weeks ago.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:01 PM (ZPrif)

82 "65
Does anyone still have Perry's list?

The only reason he was stumped on that question is that there are so many to choose from.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (+z4pE) "

Bears repeating.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 07:01 PM (O8sZf)

83 Yes.TSAwas paid for by fees. Until they larded on all the other crap . . . now its yet another sucking hole in the budget. No reason not to privatize 50% of the governments services. THen you can charge fees for the rights to run those agencies, tax them on the profits and wages. But Nooooo. Why do something that makes sense and generates income?
THey are more interested in generating votes than income. WHole difference between private sector and goverment right there.

Posted by: Man with two brains at February 20, 2013 07:01 PM (NGsLN)

84 76 Smoking while driving is illegal in some States(I think).

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:01 PM (9XBK2)

85 @64 re: Firemen First Principle yuouuupppp
concur

The left is busy diddling its bean thinking that 1996 was won because of this bullshit.

Clinton was elected and reelected only because of H Ross Perot.

The GOP needs to stop having PTSD over the 1996 budget showdown.

Shit, didn't Clinton ultimately take credit for the balanced budget that Newt! forced through?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:02 PM (QxSug)

86 Merovign and JoeinDC:

EXACTLY! If pubs were smart they would play that statement from zero in the third debate that the "sequester is not going to happen."

Play it again and again and again.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 07:02 PM (tVTLU)

87 How many billions did we blow on Hurricane relief? Including all that money for damage that apparently hurt Alaska and Idaho? Oh right.... $10 billion more than what had to be met via sequestration.

Any job cut is one willfully cut by a government determined to piss us off for not giving it all our money.

Posted by: Multitude at February 20, 2013 07:02 PM (bpONz)

88 Don't have much sympahty for govt workers....get a real job....if you can find one.

Posted by: BignJames at February 20, 2013 07:02 PM (j7iSn)

89 I wonder how one gets a piece of this chronically issued edict of 'public awareness.'

There has to be some serious cash in that.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 20, 2013

Just ask Baba Wawa, Matt Lauer and Katic Couric.

Posted by: SMARTEST MAN IN TEH eROOM! at February 20, 2013 07:02 PM (bGlsD)

90 Hey, let's cut the Propaganda Video Budget of the Fucking USDA.

But that's just crazy talk.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bbjwrvo

Posted by: zsasz at February 20, 2013 07:02 PM (MMC8r)

91 "68 How about a television show starring Barack Obama as president where occasionally he says something funny and then flashes one of those beaming smiles at the camera thus breaking the fourth wall like Norman Fell did on Three's Company? The show would be called "Oh, That Barry!"

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 20, 2013 06:56 PM (BuSM "

Nah. That sounds like it could actually be funny. And speaking truth to power. And afflicting the comfortable.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 07:03 PM (O8sZf)

92 how about this?

Pass a fucking budget, you overpaid monkies!

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:03 PM (QxSug)

93 flatbush: sorry to hear it.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 07:03 PM (tVTLU)

94 The way things are I wish I had some of those Governor Perry stupid pills he was taking.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:04 PM (9XBK2)

95 "71 Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the sequestration only
reducing the amount of budget increase? There aren't really any "cuts".
AT ALL

Posted by: Roman Maroni at February 20, 2013 06:58 PM (KCCgc) "

To the military?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 07:04 PM (O8sZf)

96 **EXACTLY! If pubs were smart they would play that statement from zero in the third debate that the "sequester is not going to happen."

Play it again and again and again.**

Aw, that's cute. You must be new here.

First rule of liberal etiquette is to never ever never never repeat what a liberal said. They repay the favor by never ever accurately repeating what a GOP pol says.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:04 PM (QxSug)

97 Big DoD contractors like Northrop Grumman, the first to belly up to this deal have already been hurting like hell with the war drawdown, and no budget which means only existing work can be funded, no new work can be funded.No way they agree to it without assurances they get the cover. And I ain't talkin about the DOL public guidance.

Sequestration will kill a lot of smaller contractors. The big guys, if they're smart, have been squirreling away money to carry them through the lean times, and planning to pick up all the contracts left lying around afterwards.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 20, 2013 07:04 PM (PQgoW)

98 84
76 Smoking while driving is illegal in some States(I think).


Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:01 PM (9XBK2)

Only if there are brats in the car (in California).

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 20, 2013 07:05 PM (6H6o8)

99 also, as we saw with Joe Biden's debate performance, there's really no right or wrong answer. They aren't held accountable for not even knowing if they voted for the war or not.

Remember: 100K teachers and taxes for the rich.

That's what 0 rolled into the debate with.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:05 PM (QxSug)

100 "74 Obama cannot break the law. He is the law.


I AM THE LAW!!

Posted by: Judge Barack Hussein Dredd at February 20, 2013 06:59 PM (MMC8r) "

That would be good satire too. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 07:05 PM (O8sZf)

101
"Also, boo hoo, bitch on Rush today was like we federal workers haven't got a raise in 4 years. "
Which, of course, is another load of barbarastreisand. There's a whole raft of grades/rules that accommodate more pay without actually calling them "pay raises".
When I hear that line, I ask: "so your office's line item payroll is exactly the same as 4 years ago?" - to which the answer is either "er", or "uh", or, "that's not what I meant".

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 07:06 PM (lbiWb)

102 Judge Dredd - amazon instant video here i come.
That or justified.

Posted by: Man with two brains at February 20, 2013 07:06 PM (NGsLN)

103 95 No, isn't the military budget larger too?

Posted by: Roman Maroni at February 20, 2013 07:06 PM (KCCgc)

104 "79
There is no law.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2013 07:00 PM (p/cQy) "

There is no justice.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 07:06 PM (O8sZf)

105
The scare stat i like is that Border Patrol officers would be forced to work fewer hours.

Since Barky has pretty much pulled said officers off of guarding the board anyway, I quote the esteemed Cankles, "What difference does it make?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 20, 2013 07:09 PM (ULg3N)

106
"Sequestration will kill a lot of smaller contractors"
Believe it or not, quite a few of us are well set to weather this storm. The big houses, not so much. I've been getting a resume/inquiry about every 2 or 3 hours over the past week, but I'm not hiring.

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 07:09 PM (lbiWb)

107 JoeinDC:

Hilarious. I remember watching him say that and thinking, they better pin his ass with that statement if sequester actually does happen.

I mean the guy takes two vacations and goes golfing with tiger woods. And does NOTHING to try and address it? all blame is on this asshole.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 07:09 PM (tVTLU)

108 105 Indeed.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:09 PM (9XBK2)

109 "94 The way things are I wish I had some of those Governor Perry stupid pills he was taking.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:04 PM (9XBK2) "

:-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 07:09 PM (O8sZf)

110 "But those defense layoffs Obama said wouldn't happen? The layoffs he
instructed employers to not warn about, as they were required to under
the law? So that he wouldn't have 800,000 layoff letters going out
before an election? [Happening.]"

It was actually worse than that. The employers came back and said to Obama, "Hey, we're exposed to civil liability here if we fail to warn the employees and they get laid off anyway."

The official Obama response was, "Don't worry about a thing. The federal government will fully reimburse you for any legal costs or judgments you may incur by not sending warnings."

Wrap your head around that for a second. This is a head of state regally instructing private businesses to break the law. That's what this was. There's a law, of long standing, originally insisted on by the same head of state's own political party, which binds those businesses to take certain actions in certain circumstances, and the head of state was saying, "Ignore it."

And then further saying, "You'll be bailed out with public money if you get in any legal trouble over breaking the law I just ordered you to break." Without having one line of Constitutional or statutory authority to offer such guarantees.

America has fallen to the level of a Third World country. Quite seriously.

The one funny part of all this is that the companies Obama has thus played illegal games with are probably going to get bent over and porked up the squeaker, dry, when they end up in court. Because dollars to donuts they will get sued by their workforces, who have a slam dunk case, and dollars to donuts, the promised protection from Obama will never materialize.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 20, 2013 07:10 PM (gqT4g)

111 I want the district of criminals, and their enabler Uncle Ben, to hurry up and crash the economy so DHS and the rest of the alphabet soups can expend a few billion of those cartridges quelling riots in the metro areas.

Posted by: parker at February 20, 2013 07:10 PM (LCb5K)

112 EXACTLY! If pubs were smart

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 07:02 PM (tVTLU)


As much as we joke about how unutterably stupid the party is, it's more than that. They move to DC or to State capitols, are surrounded by leftists, not just elected ones but the bureaucracy and permanent lobbyists and the giant leftist NGO network, and they get "acculturated" to it all and suddenly the people in the base crying for solvency and reason are just "usophisticated rubes" who don't understand the "nuances" of "how things are done."

"Tea Party Hobbits" if you will.

You elect people to fix a problem, they end up defending the problem from you.

We need to vote out the damned bureacuracy, and we need cameras running 24 hours a day in the offices of the elected. The backroom deals are poisoning us to death.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 20, 2013 07:11 PM (bxiXv)

113 **Hilarious. I remember watching him say that and thinking, they better pin his ass with that statement if sequester actually does happen. **

we would never sink that low.

zero has shown literally no leadership on the budget, he's happy to go the crisis after crisis route.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:11 PM (QxSug)

114 Luckily, the prosecutors who might look into this still work for the guy who demanded the contractors break the law.

So... Mulligan!

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 07:11 PM (I2LwF)

115 So fly to Mexico and cross the boarder in Arizona. No nudy scanners there.

Posted by: sTevo at February 20, 2013 07:11 PM (VMcEw)

116 Later, all.

God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 20, 2013 07:12 PM (O8sZf)

117 yeah, torquey, that "here's some cash to ignore the law" thing was touched upon but was for some reason never mentioned by the media...probably because it was never mentioned by romney

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:12 PM (QxSug)

118 I did the math a couple years back on a 1,000 mile round trip and it's cheaper and faster to drive. Plus I can pull over and smoke a cigarette once in a while. Before TSA, I flew.
Posted by: Regular Moron
***

Don't forget the other benefit, hobo hunting!

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 07:13 PM (uhftQ)

119 42
Local/neighborhood (N. Va. DC burbs) chats are full of "OMG w/o us the public will DIE" threads comments, to the point of being rather obnoxious - esp. the comments as to why the "rest" of the country "doesn't appreciate their efforts".
Yep, gag inducing, but they honestly believe they have a right to your wallet.
Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 06:52 PM (lbiWb)


Links, please!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 20, 2013 07:14 PM (EXemq)

120 Judge Dredd
I watched it on Prime the other night - well done, lots of fun. I didn't know Karl Urban was Dredd until the final credits - he never takes off the helmet, or else I missed a scene.

Posted by: Rule #2 at February 20, 2013 07:14 PM (CypDC)

121 Merovign. Indeed. Just read Reagan's article after the absolute thrashing Goldwater took.

We need some new generals for the next battle. Plain and simple.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 07:14 PM (tVTLU)

122 **I'd like to see some prosecutions of all those who rolled under Obama and disobeyed the law because a man without the power to suspend the law told them to.**

Where's my main homeboy, Cucinelli.

I am sure some red states could do this, make it public.

This is the problem with Obama, the Waiver Emperor. Any deal struck with him, any restrictions, anything not instantly giving him everything he wants, it's waived. or ignored.

How can you bargain with this guy?

Look, Congress is toast, but we have 30 states. We can really fuck them up that way.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:15 PM (QxSug)

123 118 Bonus points for running them over.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:15 PM (9XBK2)

124 Why not cut the Secret Service instead? You know, maybe the platoon that goes with Mooch on Vacations #1-6000?

And surely Jill Biden doesn't need it, since Joe assures us she's packin' a shotgun at home?

How about cutting ObamaPhone payoffs to telcos? Or the stewardesses on Air Farce One? Or the Food Stamp Advertising Division of the USDA? Or the funding for studies of the mating habits of the New Jersian Senatorial Delegation?

Posted by: zsasz at February 20, 2013 07:16 PM (MMC8r)

125 Gov Scott of Florida is folding on Medicare expansion.The lure of that gubmint money is irresistable.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:16 PM (9XBK2)

126 As Levin and Rush have pointed out, the actual cut only amounts to $44B. Our current bloated budget is $3.6T....so these "draconian" cuts amount to pennies.

But the MSM and the JEF are telling us this is going to result in every teacher, cop, fireman, traffic controller, federal employee, military member, dog catcher and trash man losing their job.

...and by the way, by the federal government's own admission, there is more than $125B in fraud and waste every year. Meaning the actual number is probably closer to $250B

Posted by: Icedog at February 20, 2013 07:18 PM (3qKP/)

127 Yeah Uncle is 60 and white. Easy to fire. He really needs to work several more years though. Can't afford to retire yet. He got fired by one of the big defense contractors. Been spamming the smaller defense contractors. None are showing interest in a 60 year old engineer.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:19 PM (ZPrif)

128 Judge Dredd - amazon instant video here i come. That or justified.
Posted by: Man with two brains at February 20, 2013 07:06 PM (NGsLN)

Raylan bags a hottie

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 20, 2013 07:21 PM (nTgAI)

129 say, I wonder if Ace has any opinion on the Dredd movie>?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:21 PM (QxSug)

130 Thanks Gov Scott of FL!

You really told TFG who's boss!

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 07:22 PM (doBIb)

131 We live under lawless authority. In other words: tyranny.

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:22 PM (QupBk)

132 NO services will improve under Obama. The Federal Bureaucracy will swallow everything but noting will improve except for people in the politburo who don't have to abide by any rules.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2013 07:23 PM (PxYrx)

133 Sitting here reading Ace's blog and 5 cop cars pull up to my house on a 911 hangup call on domestic violence. I suspiciously told them no they can't come in, but I don't have a landline to make a 911 call, and no one here to beat. They then said it was a cell phone that triangulated on my house, I said well, here's my phone, it didn;t make any outbound calls since the 16th. And they left.

Posted by: Whatev at February 20, 2013 07:24 PM (A7Wh1)

134 131 We live under lawless authority. In other words: tyranny.

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:22 PM (QupBk)


sic semper tyrannus

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 20, 2013 07:24 PM (bxiXv)

135 North Korea releases another
propaganda video, this one with
Obama in flames.

http://tinyurl.com/auhcnjc

Posted by: Icedog at February 20, 2013 07:24 PM (ZolUS)

136 133 Crack police work.Or police on crack.

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:25 PM (9XBK2)

137 Apropos of nothing, what's a good price for a used S&W M65 in .357? Stainless. $350?

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:26 PM (QupBk)

138 Fire 10% of the economists at the Commerce Department. No one will ever know.

Posted by: zsasz at February 20, 2013 07:27 PM (MMC8r)

139 133 Sitting here reading Ace's blog and 5 cop cars pull up to my house on a 911 hangup call on domestic violence. I suspiciously told them no they can't come in, but I don't have a landline to make a 911 call, and no one here to beat. They then said it was a cell phone that triangulated on my house, I said well, here's my phone, it didn;t make any outbound calls since the 16th. And they left.
Posted by: Whatev

Do you have any "friends" who would swat you? Because that sounds like what happened. You handled it beautifully, by the way.

Posted by: moki at February 20, 2013 07:27 PM (SdetR)

140 Slash welfare by 80%. Let em eat each other. Budget problem solved.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 20, 2013 07:28 PM (j2VFV)

141 #133,

Did you tell the police to fuck off and try again tomorrow?

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 07:28 PM (doBIb)

142 Let
It
Burn.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2013 07:29 PM (jucos)

143 I guess with cell phone 911 pinpointing on a house you could swat someone pretty easy, but I don't have any active enemies.

Posted by: Whatev at February 20, 2013 07:29 PM (A7Wh1)

144 but I don't have any active enemies.

Shallow graves solve many problems, huh.

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:30 PM (QupBk)

145 HEY, HEY TSA. HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU GROPE TODAY?

HEY, HEY TSA. HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU GROPE TODAY?

HEY, HEY TSA. HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU GROPE TODAY?

HEY, HEY TSA. HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU GROPE TODAY?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at February 20, 2013 07:31 PM (ZiG1p)

146 My non-essential list, first-to-go cuts would be:

HBO
Netflix
XM Radio
2nd car

Keep: Mortgage. Food. Guns and Ammo.

Fed's first-to-go:

Cops
Soldiers
Teachers

Keep:

USPS
All Federal jobs not involved in defense of nation

Posted by: ChampionCapua at February 20, 2013 07:32 PM (T/R0d)

147 Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:26 PM (QupBk)

Depending on condition, but generally yes, that would be a good price. If you can even find a gun for sale.

Some places have better stock than others, I've been meaning to check the horror show at our local shops, price-wise, just for fun.

I honestly don't know what recent price inflation has done to S&W revolvers. That might be a good or unrealistically low price right now. I see one on Gunbroker currently at 375 with a couple of days to go and five bidders.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 20, 2013 07:32 PM (bxiXv)

148 I'd like to see some prosecutions of all those who rolled under Obama and disobeyed the law because a man without the power to suspend the law told them to.

Now that's funny.

Posted by: DaveA at February 20, 2013 07:32 PM (6YLIm)

149 71 Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the sequestration only reducing the amount of budget increase? There aren't really any "cuts".AT ALL

Defense sees a 10% real cut but there are ways to lessen the impact.

Posted by: 80sBaby at February 20, 2013 07:32 PM (YjDyJ)

150
These aren't "cuts", they are reductions in the programmed increases. Look at a graph of federal spending out 10 years, with and without the sequester. It barely makes a dent, just slightly decreasing the slope. The feds will spend about $47Y cumulative over 10 years. Yes, 47 trillion dollars total over 10 years. With the sequester, they will spend about $45 - 46T.
This is a lard ass who eats about 8,000 calories a day now, and who plans to increase that to 10,000 calories per day, but screams about a diet he's going to be forced to go on that will reduce that increase to 9,800 calories per day in the future. He's gonna starve, he screams. He's goingtohave to cut his diet by 200 calories per day! Nobody can live on that!
They always do this trick, when forced with cuts or "cuts". It's like family being forced to reduce spending and so cuts out the food for the kids, while continuing to spend on the luxuries.


Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 20, 2013 07:33 PM (VVB18)

151 Don't show a Dem lawmaker this.Assault revolver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLk1v5bSFPw

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:33 PM (9XBK2)

152 Even those SA revolvers are assault weapons!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRXXxQ1OuDc

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 07:33 PM (9XBK2)

153 The House should pass a law that the gummint agencies sell off all their 'surplus' ammunition.

Posted by: zsasz at February 20, 2013 07:34 PM (MMC8r)

154 The House should pass a law that the gummint agencies sell off all their 'surplus' ammunition.

They passed a law that says the military has top sell their spent brass. A law that is being ignored, so I imagine a new one to sell actual live rounds would be less than effective.

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:37 PM (QupBk)

155 18

What is wrong with Chris Christie? Did he knock up some former governor's daughter or something?
**********

Word has it that he swallowed one or two...

Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at February 20, 2013 07:40 PM (o6qwg)

156 137 Apropos of nothing, what's a good price for a used S&W M65 in .357? Stainless. $350?

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:26 PM (QupBk)

Barrel length?

Posted by: BignJames at February 20, 2013 07:41 PM (j7iSn)

157 gee, in that debate with obama and the furloughs, a real conservative would've mentioned the fireman's first rule and demanded that obama promise to not hold us all hostage during the spending cuts.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 07:41 PM (QxSug)

158 As much as the sequester will hurt (I'll have a 20% pay and hours cut for 6 months) and do nothing (that money won't pay down the deficit, but will be spent to give the FSA more free shit), I wish they'd just actually get on with it.

Every 4 to 6 months, we in the DoD are told "prepare for pain, prepare for cuts." I liken it to being on death row--every few months we're given a date, then taken in and strapped to the table, and then at the last minute the politicians kick the can down the road, and we're taken off the table and back to our cells.

But here's the thing--we're still on death row, and it's still going to happen eventually. It's torture to have to go through with this every few months. Even when it happens on the 1st of March, since they have until April to get it sorted out, there'll be another month of miserable uncertainty, during which, as ace notes, they'll probably kick the can down the road again.

It sucks, it really does. Just do it, for God's sake--this is the tyrant's and the dems' bright idea, let's put it into effect. When I said let it burn last November, I knew I'd get burned as well, that's part of the deal. Just get it over with...

Posted by: Palandine at February 20, 2013 07:42 PM (g7D8V)

159
If we had a smart GOP that was committed to cutting government, they'd come out with a list of every last bit of pork that was in that Hurricane Sandy bill and say, "Well, if the Democrats hadn't flushed all this money away, we'd be able to pay the TSA."
Oh, wait. They voted for the bill, too.
Nevermind.

Posted by: Warden at February 20, 2013 07:44 PM (HzhBE)

160 Barrel length?

5", I think. Maybe 4.

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:45 PM (QupBk)

161 This is the way it always goes. OMG!! if we cut spending, all the national parks will close.!!
Sure, they lay off the schmucks making 40K or 60K and drop the gates at Yellowstone. Meanwhile, the undersecratary of great views (350K), his buttboy assistant undersecratary for accessing private jets (275K) and the 3 staff weasles (100K ea) to fetch coffee and light cigars all have crucial work that must continue!!
Tar and feathers are too good for these perfumed and pampered scum. Rope and a lightpole. (Gee, that might be a catchy ticket in 2016)






Posted by: mark reardon at February 20, 2013 07:49 PM (fYG3x)

162 I opt for the enhanced patdown every time.

Anything to take up the TSA's time and energy.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more Assault & at February 20, 2013 07:49 PM (FsUAO)

163 160 Barrel length?

5", I think. Maybe 4.

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:45 PM (QupBk)

Price is ok if it's in good condition....3" barrels are bringing a premium.

Posted by: BignJames at February 20, 2013 07:52 PM (j7iSn)

164 Price is ok if it's in good condition....3" barrels are bringing a premium.

Thanks.

Posted by: toby928© presents at February 20, 2013 07:54 PM (QupBk)

165 Without sequester, defense spending will increase 20% over the next 10 years. With sequester, it only increases 18%.
http://tinyurl.com/d7lvd65
Non-defense discretionary will increase 14% without sequester. With the dreaded sequester, it will increase 12%.
Nothing else will be touched, Medicare included. It will increase 62% either way. The rest of it will increase by 51% either way.
So a 2% reduction in the projected increase is what all this fuss and laying off 800K worker is about. Nothing but bullshit.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at February 20, 2013 07:54 PM (VVB18)

166
59 This is easily solved--the TSA just needs to start a fashion line.
Posted by: Anna Wintour at February 20, 2013 06:55 PM (r2PLg)


That would be their soon to be announced, "Delay, Grope, Probe and Steal" clothing line...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 20, 2013 07:54 PM (Jcd0S)

167
And to think that next Thursday, I will be flying west during the last of the halcyon per-sequester days for TSA.

Perhaps I should shoot video of my experience.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 20, 2013 07:57 PM (Jcd0S)

168 TSA Easy access sweat pants.

Posted by: Whatev at February 20, 2013 07:57 PM (A7Wh1)

169
"I'd like to see some prosecutions of all those who rolled under Obama and disobeyed the law because a man without the power to suspend the law told them to."
A. No law has been broken.Contractors have been paring down for months - avoiding the 500 employee trigger.
B. Prosection _what_ ifit was?Violations of the WARN Act result in civil penalties - not criminal charges. (Unless it's conspiracy to violate the law or some other silliness that the DOJ will never prosecute.)

Posted by: lymond at February 20, 2013 08:19 PM (RxLT6)

170 The defense cuts are front-loaded.

"Under budget caps, the FY 2013 defense budget will be 18% lower than the President’s FY 2011 request. After the sequestration process, the FY 2013 defense budget will be 25% less than the President’s FY 2011 request."

http://herit.ag/snUjYO

Posted by: 80sBaby at February 20, 2013 08:24 PM (YjDyJ)

171 119, just Google fu "dc listserv" and read thru what your fellow citizens think you owe. for more fun ( ok, nausea) sign up for the Arlington moms forums. there have been threads on why " being Julia" is a good thing...

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 08:29 PM (lbiWb)

172 Ace:

"Let people know there are consequences for obeying illegal orders. As there are in the Army."

Ummmthis.

Lack of accountability is toxic.

Posted by: Bob, Henchman at Large at February 20, 2013 08:30 PM (1efte)

173
1 And for those who voted for Obama and are now layed off,HA HA HA HA HA ,assholes!

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 06:39 PM (9XBK2)


____________________________________________________

I work for the DoD. I know very, very few people who voted for Obama. Got my furlough notice today. Been through layoffs and such before, but this will hurt. I took a pay cut to take the Gov't job, since I believe in the mission.

We're not all slugs. Some of us actually do something useful for the country.

Posted by: SARDiver at February 20, 2013 08:37 PM (jgWCv)

174 "14
They just want money. Too bad. Everyone else is losing their jobs. About
time those attached to the government teats lose theirs, too.

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 20, 2013 06:45 PM (6J6x7)
_______________________________________________________It's fun to have someone happy that your job is in jeopardy. Really brightens my day.

Posted by: SARDiver at February 20, 2013 08:40 PM (jgWCv)

175 LibRules want property tax increases "for the children" to inflate teacher's pay so they cancel band so you'll notice

Posted by: DANEgerus at February 20, 2013 09:10 PM (XcqFs)

176 Those delays in security at the airport could be mitigated by using the same glove for an eight hour shift and cut costs significantly.

Besides, isn't TSA funded by ticket surcharges?

Posted by: Obamao at February 20, 2013 09:49 PM (JtyGg)

177 It's a 1.5% cut in all non-defense discretionary spending.

Must be a critical penny and a half, eh?

Posted by: Adjoran at February 20, 2013 10:23 PM (9uOra)

178 ya know what? defund the TSA. it's all a kneejerk reaction to 9-11. the soviet union was felled by the same tactics. make you enemy overspend itself. Dirty Mary Crazy Larry scenario. if i mixed the title up, don't kill me, k?

Posted by: kvjsbarandgrill at February 20, 2013 10:26 PM (kNiw0)

179 155 18

What is wrong with Chris Christie? Did he knock up some former governor's daughter or something?
**********

Word has it that he swallowed one or two...
Posted by: wholelottasplainin' at February 20, 2013 07:40 PM (o6qwg)



GIT IN MAH BELLEH!!!!

Posted by: Bill H at February 20, 2013 11:11 PM (3sZO1)

180 For all of you dancing on the graves of us Defense Industry workers and DoD employees, I'd like to give a nice, hearty "Fuck You." Do you honestly think we're greedy Libs? No, the vast majority of us are Conservatives and Libertarians and we do what we do for love of the job, not love of the money. If I lose my job, my family is screwed. That hurts. But what hurts more is that if I lose my job it's because important work got wiped out by the Sequester grenades being lobbed indiscriminately. It means that somewhere, sometime, a member of the military might not have the safest, best equipment we can provide. Equipment our troops damn well deserve. That is why I do my job. So dance away assholes.

Posted by: Ms. Michigan at February 21, 2013 12:10 AM (DJp+r)

181 "The WARN Act can be enforced by laid off employees in private litigation, so, yeah, bring on the lawsuits.
Don't forget, TFG told the employers that the Govt would pay any fines they incurred because they didn't put the notices out on time. "This statement is no longer operative."
**

"Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or
Whoever receives, conceals, or retains the same with intent to convert it to his use or gain, knowing it to have been embezzled, stolen, purloined or converted—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; but if the value of such property in the aggregate, combining amounts from all the counts for which the defendant is convicted in a single case, does not exceed the sum of $1,000, he shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
The word “value” means face, par, or market value, or cost price, either wholesale or retail, whichever is greater.

18 USC Section 641

Please note this crime cannot be committed by a crack addict or a Central American street gang. It can only be committed by some person in authority in the federal government who abuses their position of trust.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 21, 2013 01:48 AM (Hw93f)

182 "Up to three hours, in total, as apparently some lines currently take two hours."

Tough.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 21, 2013 02:57 AM (8J3jn)

183 As the wife of a DOD employee, I have to give Ms Michigan her props for saying ''Fuck You" for dancing on the graves of our jobs. There are a lot of civilians that support our troops to make them better equipped mentally, physically and equipment wise. My husband's job is essential to HUMINT and my son is a Marine, like his brother, father and grandfather were. I already have one crippled son and I don't want to see anything happen to my other son. How much as a family do we have to sacrifice? Especially to a Commander-in- Chief, who gives not one shit about any of us.

I don't want sympathy. We will fight on against the Sequestration and Obama the best that we can. Please don't think that all government employees have it easy. My husband spends 10-15 weeks away from home every year and he is a civilian employee. Yes, he earns a decent salary now but he also spent 22 years not earning one and putting his life on the line. But he learned skills that are important to teach to current military members that can't be taught by someone who hasn't done it. Quite a few of his students wash out.

Tomorrow or Friday we will get the 30 day notice and the furloughs will begin. Just like many of his colleagues, he will begin to look for jobs outside of the government sector. Sequestration may separate the wheat from the chaff unfortunately it may make the wheat go elsewhere.

'

Posted by: JennB at February 21, 2013 05:00 AM (qK38l)

184 "Just like many of his colleagues, he will begin to look for jobs outside of the government sector. Sequestration may separate the wheat from the chaff unfortunately it may make the wheat go elsewhere. "

I hope he soon finds a job that's not subject to the whims of a man like Obama.

Meanwhile, if the DOD doesn't want the ever-shrinking pool of federal funding squandered by the useless drones at the DHS and TSA, then the DOD should make sure that the many failings of the DHS and the TSA are well publicized.

And if vital parts of the DOD, like where your husband works, are tired of dragging along the waste and make-work projects that are a part of any large bureaucracy, then those vital functions need to speak up, and make damn sure that the remaining money goes where its needed. No one else will do that for them. I understand people hesitate to do this because it could cost them their jobs. Today, however, if you don't do it then it could also cost you your job. And the world also becomes a more dangerous place for brave men like your son.

I'm sorry it's come to this, but being sorry isn't going to fix anything. Funding will be cut because it must be cut, whether via sequestration or not. It's been years coming and now it's here.

Posted by: GalosGann at February 21, 2013 09:34 AM (T3KlW)






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