Playstation 4 Announcement, Live?
1 WSJ is live-blogging it
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 20, 2013 06:30 PM (piMMO)
2 Maybe it's time to upgrade the ol' Super Nintendo.
Posted by: sluggo at February 20, 2013 06:31 PM (vVv3V)
3 The "buzzwords per minute" quotient is driving me crazy though. Brutally little substance in the first half an hour.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 20, 2013 06:34 PM (kqGWM)
4 Time to put my Colecovision to rest. Just kidding. Remember those?
Posted by: Hawkerflyer at February 20, 2013 06:36 PM (2z0mM)
5 This reminds me of when Limbaugh morphs into an Apple fanboi.
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 06:37 PM (zpqa2)
6 Anyone for pong?
Posted by: maddogg at February 20, 2013 06:39 PM (OlN4e)
7 It's been all downhill since Spyhunter.
Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 06:39 PM (TmaET)
8 >, I'm a bad blogger today (seriously). I'll put something more broadly interesting right on top of this thing.
Goddamamit it's been too fucking serious today. The next post should have boobs and smoked meats and guns and fast cars and explosions and magnificent golden hawks and it should smell of leather and gasoline and trees- giant oak trees
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 06:39 PM (8sCoq)
9 It's on like Donkey Kong!
Posted by: Bosk at February 20, 2013 06:40 PM (n2K+4)
10 Kate why won't you save us?
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 06:40 PM (zpqa2)
11 I think I read somewhere that Kettlechips is coming out with a hickory bacon chip. Discuss.
Posted by: Bosk at February 20, 2013 06:42 PM (n2K+4)
12 In French only.
Posted by: Bosk at February 20, 2013 06:43 PM (n2K+4)
13 After Final Fantasy 13-2, I'm having trouble caring. I'm hoping GTA V will change my mind.
Posted by: Methos at February 20, 2013 06:43 PM (hO9ad)
14 While fappin.
Posted by: Bosk at February 20, 2013 06:44 PM (n2K+4)
15 Ironically, I'm using my wii u to watch this.. Pushing the livestream to my TV.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 20, 2013 06:44 PM (UOjzE)
16 While fappin.
Way ahead of you.
Posted by: sluggo at February 20, 2013 06:45 PM (vVv3V)
17 Any morons play Red Dead? I'm getting back into it again, to close out all remaining multiplayer challenges (I will unlock everything, including obscure poker and horse racing titles!)
Oregon Trail meets Grand Theft Auto.
Posted by: wooga at February 20, 2013 06:48 PM (AoIxQ)
18 Still waiting for the next Half- life episode. I'm beginning to think Valve has given up on it.
Posted by: roscoe99 at February 20, 2013 06:49 PM (INfaP)
19 Who gives a shit.
Console gaming is for 14 year old punkassed dork boys....
PC gaming is for men.
Posted by: Portnoy at February 20, 2013 07:04 PM (A5Abh)
20 I think I read somewhere that Kettlechips is coming out with a hickory bacon chip. Discuss.
Lays now has Chicken and Waffles
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 20, 2013 07:07 PM (piMMO)
21 Kinda disappointed in the graphics so far. Human skin still looks all plastic. And the movement still looks unnatural. Lots of shiny metal stuff. Not much looking natural so far.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:09 PM (ZPrif)
22 So far it appears to be what the original Xbox would have been if it were designed twelve years later.
I'm hearing about a ton of features that fall in the 'don't care' category and some others that fall in the 'there better be an easy way to disable that or I'm not buying one of these.'
I must be a horrible person but I really don't get all of this social crap and it's getting obnoxious to the point where it is becoming a requirement to do things that worked fine without it for a very long time.
Posted by: epobirs at February 20, 2013 07:09 PM (kcfmt)
23 I am impressed by the stream quality of the press conference.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:09 PM (ZPrif)
24 I'm not seeing the giant leap in graphics quality from PS3 to PS4 so far. Main advance seems to be the sheer # of things on screen at once. Stuff looks the same, just 10x more stuff.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:11 PM (ZPrif)
25 Portnoy at February 20, 2013 07:04 PM (A5Abh)
You sound like a loser who is insecure about the fact that you play PC games so you try and diminish the intellect and maturity of those who choose to play console games in order to make yourself feel better.
Posted by: Sho Nuff at February 20, 2013 07:12 PM (jo0fs)
26 The Witness = MYST Toons
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 20, 2013 07:15 PM (UOjzE)
27 Posted by: Sho Nuff at February 20, 2013 07:12 PM (jo0fs)
You sound like some one that owns a Mac.
Seek some common sense.
Posted by: Portnoy at February 20, 2013 07:15 PM (A5Abh)
28 One prediction that has come true. The competing console makers will offer all of the distinctive features of the Wii U by simple application of software. The difference is that you'll spend a bit more money to have a full power console and a full power portable device talking to it.
Posted by: epobirs at February 20, 2013 07:17 PM (kcfmt)
29 PC games test the mettle of men...console games are for little boys still dreaming of becoming men.....
Posted by: Porkkky at February 20, 2013 07:18 PM (lSzZO)
30 Flatbrush Joe, what you are seeing is the diminshing returns of creating realistic enviros.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 20, 2013 07:18 PM (UOjzE)
31 Ok, that old guy vid was more like it. Want to see that in a game environment, though, not just a stand alone demo.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:21 PM (ZPrif)
32 Can't we all just get along???
Oh, wait, everyone I know who plays console games is a girl...
Posted by: Porkkky at February 20, 2013 07:22 PM (lSzZO)
33 Yeah, -- we'd like to proudly announce that ... we really like Myst when we were kids and can't think of anything original so .... Myst 2013!
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:22 PM (ZPrif)
34 Fucking Myst!! Awesome!
Posted by: Porkkky at February 20, 2013 07:23 PM (lSzZO)
Pretty much what I was expecting. Anybody who really care that isn't struggling to survive owns a 1080p display. This coming generation of consoles is about making greater use of that where the existing generation was just scratching the surface and almost always rendering to a substantially lower resolution.
Look at how long the video game business took to just make full use of the color TV spec introduced in the 50s. They never got to the point of doing anything photorealistic in real time on a NTSC display. It was easier to move on to HDTV and still have stuff that wasn't especially real looking but was at least much sharper and more complex.
There is some visual simulation stuff they still don't have a handle on no matter how much processing power is available. It gets a little better every year but there is still plenty of room for advances.
Posted by: epobirs at February 20, 2013 07:25 PM (kcfmt)
36 Odd little puppet show. Controller people didn't seem to be doing anything other than moving the stick back and forth.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:27 PM (ZPrif)
37 All I know is that if anyone dares to challenge me on creating a multi-colored screen with a siren noise playing really loud on a Commodore 64...I'll fucking own you.
Posted by: Porkkky at February 20, 2013 07:28 PM (lSzZO)
Posted by: Porkkky at February 20, 2013 07:29 PM (lSzZO)
39 I feel my Jumpman Jr skills are criminally undervalued in the modern workplace.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:29 PM (ZPrif)
40 I like this fat, happy gay Japanese dude. I'm feeling up-beat just listening to him giggle through his presentation.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:31 PM (ZPrif)
@28One prediction that has come true. The competing console makers will offer all of the distinctive features of the Wii U by simple application of software. The difference is that you'll spend a bit more money to have a full power console and a full power portable device talking to it.
The X-Box 360 has already done some of this to a limited extent. Microsoft has an app called Smartglass that allows you to navigate the 360's UI via whatever machine has the app installed.Starting up a Smartglass compatible game will also causethe app to pull up content that's linked to the game (for instance, starting Halo 4 causes Smartglass to display your Halo profile). Smartglass comes with Windows 8 (including the PC version of the OS), but can also be downloaded for other mobile operating systems as well. It doesn't appear to have the full capability that the Wii U's hand-held screen does, but it's definitely a strong step in that direction.
Posted by: junior at February 20, 2013 07:31 PM (UWFpX)
Specs say PS 4 can do 2 TFlops.
First TFlop supercomputer? ASCI Red Dec. 1996.
Progress or devolution. Take your pick.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 20, 2013 07:33 PM (kdS6q)
43 My SmartGlass is what I use when I give Cleveland Steamers...it's Smart because it has a windshield wiper on it.....
Posted by: Porkkky at February 20, 2013 07:40 PM (lSzZO)
SmartGlass was a start. But the feature discussed that really impacts Nintendo is pushing games to the handheld to play independent of the TV, as was mentioned as a feature for the combo of the PS4 and Vita or Android device, presumably one with the Playstation certification they've been trying to promote. This has been one of the few selling points of the Wii U, though I haven't tried to see whether I can do it from my bedroom to the living room entertainment center where the Nintendo lives.
I don't know what madness possessed me to break my policy of not buying systems at launch without some significant incentive, like if it were work related. (This was the case in the past but those days are long gone.) It looks like Nintendo may have difficulty creating the kind of installed base they need to do the numbers they expect on major titles.
Posted by: epobirs at February 20, 2013 07:47 PM (kcfmt)
45 Did I see that right, did the character hack the pro-lifer's account? Is Watch Dogs Grand Theft Auto meets OWS meets Hackers??
Posted by: LizLem at February 20, 2013 07:52 PM (8wqqE)
46 Yeah, the casual anti-conservative bigotry in the media. Pro-lifer? Fuck him. Then the character protected a grade school teacher after robbing the black pro-lifer.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 07:53 PM (ZPrif)
47 People who debate console vs pc are broke losers. Get a job, and buy a console AND a pc. I play strategy and some FPS on the pc. I play sports, racers, arcade, and third person games (GTA, uncharted, red dead) on either PS3 or Xbox, depending on the individual game.
Portnoy can pull Gates' ball sack out of the back of his throat now.
Posted by: wooga at February 20, 2013 08:03 PM (AoIxQ)
Yeah, I don't know if Smartglass will be a viable tool to actually play games on. I've seen a couple of Wii U games that used the remote screen to give one player a full-on view of what's going on, while the TV displayed a more limited view to the rest of the players (this is for players all in the same room, of course). And I don't know if Smartglass is capable of providing even minimal input into a currently running game on the 360. Further, mobile devices typically don't have built-in controls of any sort, which means that you would need to provide control via the touch-screen, which is somewhat difficult with most modern video games. So the amount of input that you're going to see fromSmartglass toward a game that you're playing is probably minimal. It's possible that in the near future a developer will figure out a way to allow a player to constructively influence the game that's running using Smartglass. But it's also possible that such functionality has been intentionally disallowed by Microsoft.
In any event, Microsoft is going to need to be the most creative of the console companies in responding to the Wii U's hand held screen as it's currently the only one of the big three console companies that doesn't have a hand-held on the market.
Posted by: junior at February 20, 2013 08:09 PM (UWFpX)
49 Overall, I was left cold by that presentation.
Posted by: Serious Cat, Serious Nintenthing at February 20, 2013 08:10 PM (UOjzE)
So far they haven't pushed the idea of SmartGlass as a replacement screen rather than a secondary screen for stuff like info or mini-games. But there is an interesting trend in the tablet and high-end phone market. Several companies are releasing gaming tablets that look a lot like the Wii U controller but are fully capable standalone devices. Some are permanently attached to their controller input section and at least two I've seen have the direction and button inputs in a separate u-shaped dock that can be added and removed as needed. Which means a lot of existing tablets and phones can be adapted for this, including Windows RT and Windows Phone devices.
Microsoft has been platform agnostic on SmartGlass but they would need to set a standard for the mobile Windows market if it to be of value there. While it's nice that you could potentially use SmartGlass to push a game to an Android tablet with a controller dock, Microsoft needs to take the opportunity to raise the value of their own offerings. They've been reluctant to get into dedicated handheld gaming, so this is possibly what they see as the future.
Posted by: epobirs at February 20, 2013 08:20 PM (kcfmt)
51 @45 and @46
the fucking idiot who intro'd this game talked about his own personal experience being 'tear gassed' at a political rally.
and yes, it said pro-lifer and, i believe, ;tobacco lobbyist.'
gotta cover all bases ya know.
Posted by: Gandalf at February 20, 2013 08:25 PM (OqeDl)
52 So let me get this straight, no console was actually shown, no specs of what it can do, no pricing was revealed, but COMING SOON HOLIDAY 2013 was the takeaway from this GIANT MOTHER FUCKING NOTHING BURGER OF AN EVENT????
Looks like SONY is taking its cues from Obama...Get in front of a bunch of drooling dumbshits and build up the MAIN EVENT, then gasbag talk and blow farts while wallowing in your self agrandizing self priomotional bullshit talking about something that doesnt actually exist yet, like Hope Change and some Budget Plan then let the Cocksucker sycophant media slob your knob for a few days about how amazing it was to feast on your giant nothingburger of a turd sandwich.
Give me a fucking break.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at February 20, 2013 08:30 PM (+OTLF)
53 People who debate console vs pc are broke losers. Get a job, and buy a
console AND a pc. I play strategy and some FPS on the pc. I play sports,
racers, arcade, and third person games (GTA, uncharted, red dead) on
either PS3 or Xbox, depending on the individual game.
Portnoy can pull Gates' ball sack out of the back of his throat now.
Posted by: wooga at February 20, 2013 08:03 PM (AoIxQ)
And your pretend girlfriend is alright with this?? Well of course she is!! You have a job where you can own a PC AND a console!! Yer plainly raking it in. What's next ?? A Yacht??
Wait...I was out of line with the whole 'pretend girlfriend' thing..for all I know you and your male/female bestest buddy might be going through your mom's underwear drawer finding things you like...
Studies show People who shit all over themselves when their little gaming world is impugned tend to try on their mother's underwear with a guy they saw naked after 8th grade gym class that very afternoon.
Google it...oh wait...
Posted by: Portnoy at February 20, 2013 08:31 PM (A5Abh)
54 Gandalf, I think you are mixing the Sucker Punch guy with the Ubisoft developer.
Posted by: Serious Cat, Serious Nintenthing at February 20, 2013 08:33 PM (UOjzE)
55 OH YEAH! I almost forgot....ITS NOT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE WITH PS3 GAMES!
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright's Sock Puppet at February 20, 2013 08:38 PM (+OTLF)
56 Holy shit!! After going through MY mothers underwear drawer I finally find someone who's like me???? Wooga, please let's be best friends and I swear I got some KICK ASS Granny Panties I'll let you sniff!!
Posted by: Porkkky at February 20, 2013 08:39 PM (lSzZO)
57 @54 ahhh.... good catch.
double dose of teh stoopid then.
Posted by: Gandalf at February 20, 2013 08:42 PM (OqeDl)
58 Man, this talk of old-lady-panty-sniffin' has given me a BIG old BONER!!!!!!!
Posted by: Granny Fucker at February 20, 2013 08:43 PM (lSzZO)
59 Damn I got a rod!
Posted by: B.O. Boner at February 20, 2013 08:45 PM (lSzZO)
60 @ 59...Shit, man, me too!!!!
Posted by: Rod Roddington at February 20, 2013 08:48 PM (lSzZO)
61 OH YEAH! I almost forgot....ITS NOT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE WITH PS3 GAMES!
Awesome. So I will probably not get this thing before the collapse.
Posted by: Methos at February 20, 2013 08:52 PM (hO9ad)
Pretty standard for Sony. (The original Xbox announcement at CES was no different.) Every console they've done was announced with no idea what the final box would look like or even something completely different. The PS3 announcement at E3 didn't show the final appearance of the hardware until the following E3. It was all just tech demos that showed how much the design had been revised late in the process with no demos for the combined chip set. There were CELL demos and separate Nvidia demos, because the PS3 as we know it didn't really exist yet. The original design called for multiple CELLs and no dedicated GPU. The idea was that developers could allocate resources as they saw fit.
The problem was that the multi-processing aspects of CELL weren't close to ready in time and yields on the CELL production were really bad. Far more so then usual for first production of an ambitious new design. Sony took a severe bath on early PS3 production, well above what the plan called for. But they'd weathered such storms before. The early PS2 production for the Japanese market was very rough, being forced to use a larger 250 nm process node than intended due to delays in getting a 180 nm line up and running at a time when Intel was the only company on the planet that had it working. The 250 nm chips had only been intended for proof of design and engineering samples, not consumer product.
But that problem was overcome in time for the US and Europe launches and the PS2 went on to great success. The PS3 took a good deal longer to becoming profitable but was far from the worst problem Sony faced overall.
Anyway, the one time I can recall Sony breaking the pattern was the PSP. They lead with the announcement of a handheld and showed the near final prototype at E3 and filled in the technical details and demos in the following months.
Posted by: epobirs at February 20, 2013 08:53 PM (kcfmt)
63 I PSP'ed my pants the other day...fucking embarrassing!
Posted by: Porkkky at February 20, 2013 09:02 PM (lSzZO)
64 I'm still rockin the xbox360.. Nothing wrong with it. In fact I only got THAT last year. My PS2 still works quite well and many amazing games were made for it.
People have no appreciation for shit anymore.
I am fatigued to hell with all of the downloadable content too. When I BUY a fucking game, I expect to be able to ENJOY the fuckin thing without having to sign up for "Premium" whatever the fucks for 'only' 25 dollars. Fuck you. You got my 400 for the console. The 100 for xbox live. The 60 for the game. The 50 plus for a headset..
It's such a turn off
Posted by: Melodicmetal at February 21, 2013 11:25 AM (QY9FJ)
Posted by: lowandslow at February 21, 2013 09:09 PM (Fz2C7)
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