American Tire Manufacturer to French Governmenment Official: Drop Dead

Is this real?

It's so... undiplomatic I wasn't sure. (And the letter itself has lapses in grammar, as if written by a non-native speaker.)

But it does seem to check out, at least as far as superficial background-- Marice M. Taylor is the head of Titan Tires.

Per the letter: A French minister of Industrial Redevelopment tried to interest Titan tires in opening an operation in a shuttered plant in Amien.

Here's a snippet of the letter; more at the link.

Dear Mr. Montebourg:

...

I appreciate your thinking that your Ministry is protecting industrial activities and jobs in France. I and Titan have a 40-year history of buying closed factories and companies, losing millions of dollars and turning them around to create a good business, paying good wages. Goodyear tried for over four years to save part of the Amiens jobs that are some of the highest paid, but the French unions and French government did nothing but talk.

I have visited the factory a couple of times. The French workforce gets paid high wages but works only three hours. They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three, and work for three. I told this to the French union workers to their faces. They told me that’s the French way!

The Chinese are shipping tires into France - really all over Europe - and yet you do nothing. In five years, Michelin won’t be able to produce tire in France. France will lose its industrial business because government is more government.

Sir, your letter states you want Titan to start a discussion. How stupid do you think we are?

Update: Tasker found the CEO's blog, but I can't find it. However, I found this article which establishes the take-away here: Morry Taylor is called "The Grizz" owing to his negotiating style, which is all Flying Bearclaws and Hibernation Holds and Honey Bottom Seatdrops.

Tasker shoots me his blog -- "GrizzTalk."

Posted by: Ace at 03:31 PM



Comments

1 AMERICA!! FUCK YEAH!!!

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 03:32 PM (I2LwF)

2 Aaaaahhh, I can breathe again!

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:33 PM (0PiQ4)

3
Ive been wondering about something about a line in SKYFALL about male homos.

During the scene with Bond and the gay villain Silva, Silva tries to make 007 uncomfortable with a sexual advance.

Bond responded by saying how would you know it would be my first time, or something like that.

I've been trying to suss out the purpose for that line in the script. Was it a nod to the gay audience?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 03:33 PM (vzLhi)

4 FUCKING. PURE. AWESOMENESS.

ELEVENTY!!!!

Yes Ace. This was fantastic. Union and government tit fucks. It's a "global marketplace" and other countries will put you out of a job for good you fucking idiots. 3 hour work days!!??

Suck it France, no wonder Europe is dying. How will they pay for all the immigrants intentionally going on the dole???

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 03:34 PM (tVTLU)

5 I think it's to show Bond is comfortable in every situation, and he's got an answer for every threat.

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 03:34 PM (I2LwF)

6 clicking through to the original French site, I wish I could read what the commenters were saying.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:36 PM (yCvxi)

7 When people say we need more firebreathers in charge of the GOP, that guy is what they mean.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 03:36 PM (uhftQ)

8 Thank the maker!

Posted by: C3pO at February 20, 2013 03:36 PM (QupBk)

9 Read that this morning. I like that guy.

Posted by: © Sponge at February 20, 2013 03:36 PM (xmcEQ)

10 Sooth

I dunno but the film makers denied it vehemently when it got noticed and taken as a cue that Bond might have had gay sex.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:36 PM (0PiQ4)

11
If you remember ESCAPE FROM ALCATRAZ with Clint Eastwood, you'll remember a similar line about homosexuality in the shower scene.

Very similar, actually.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 03:37 PM (1WM2H)

12 Reads like it was translated into French and back to English.

Posted by: Xander Crews at February 20, 2013 03:37 PM (NPqnO)

13 I doubt if any CEO would send a letter like that. It sounds like one of those hoax e-mail letters you get forwarded all the time.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 03:37 PM (53z96)

14 (And the letter itself has lapses in grammar, as if written by a non-native speaker.)

He's American. The letter was written in French and then someone used google or something to translate it into English.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 20, 2013 03:37 PM (Ipj15)

15 Unions will be the destruction of society globally.

Posted by: © Sponge at February 20, 2013 03:37 PM (xmcEQ)

16 Let me know when they start writing letters like this to Washington DC

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 20, 2013 03:38 PM (KwMW2)

17 French tires are teh ghey

Posted by: MR. Won't-let-it-go-from-last-thread at February 20, 2013 03:38 PM (Y5I9o)

18 I sincerely doubt this is real.
Coming from a CEO of a major business, I cannot believe he penned this himself, with grammatical errors too.

If it is real. Its just sheer brilliance.

Posted by: Tfox at February 20, 2013 03:38 PM (DVC2D)

19 Le balls on that guy...

Posted by: cajun carrot at February 20, 2013 03:38 PM (UZQM8)

20 L, elle

Were you joking in the Hagel thread? I couldn't tell.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 03:38 PM (GQ8sn)

21 French culture has many wonderful attributes. Work ethic, however, is lacking in their culture. Even the French who come to the U.S. admit this. The French who really want to succeed, come here, get Master's degrees or MBA degrees, and leave France.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 03:38 PM (GrVRu)

22
I liked the Lazlo Letters better.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 03:38 PM (GJgbJ)

23 Since this is too good to check, I say we don't bother doing any more checking.


As Truman noted, America! Fuck Yeah!

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (VtjlW)

24 Vive le France. Yet, they can't figure out why their industry sucks, unemployment is rampant and there are no French jobs (except in government).

Even worse, I've talked to some of their guys deployed in AFG and Africa. They have to beg, borrow and steal everything including ammo.

Want to know what a civilization in decline looks like? There it is.


Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (GGCsk)

25 He's American. The letter was written in French and then someone used google or something to translate it into English.


I don't klnow if you're speculating but I'd bet that's the case.

Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (KXm42)

26 I think the letter is a fake. it's just too in your face.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (0PiQ4)

27
3

Maybe its a reference to the whole rampant hobbyist sodomy that goes on in those elite all boy British schools that Bond most likely attended?

Posted by: Drew in MO at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (cGlgB)

28 The letter also reads like it was translated from French. Maybe that's why the grammar seems off.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (yCvxi)

29
L, ah, so I'm not the only one who noticed?

but how else should one interpret that line??

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (vanqS)

30 It's the French way!

Posted by: Hookers, blow and fromage and white flags at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (vbh31)

31 The letter is so good, it needs to be vetted.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 03:39 PM (8sCoq)

32 Sounds like he's trying to help. *SLAP* SNAP OUT OF IT! *SLAP SLAP*

Posted by: major major major major at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (utCAk)

33 >>>12 Reads like it was translated into French and back to English.

you guys iz so smart.

That must be it.

For some reason I kept thinking "Is this a Chinese scam?"

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (LCRYB)

34 Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:36 PM (yCvxi)

----------------

Looking through, most seem to be fairly supportive of Taylor's letter.

Posted by: JustLurkin' at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (EJQEA)

35
>>French culture has many wonderful attributes.<<

It's true.
Nobody teaches a young foreign exchange student about urinary tract infections like a Frenchman.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (GJgbJ)

36 Hi France! It's reality and I've come to slap both your cheeks.

Yes, keep taxing the "rich" or something.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (GGCsk)

37 I had a Francophile polisci professor who would always tell us how great life and culture are in France, in order to sell to us both France and socialism.

He was very clever and really loved what he did. I could sti best him in the marketplace of ideas which got old for him after a couple of semesters- he'd beat me with volume and the bully pulpit. But it was all in fun since it meant he knew i had won.

This is one of the arguments I never made against him, mainly because I didn't want to attack his precious too pointedly. I still needed a grade after all.

There's always someone who will outwork you, and there's always someone who will under-live you.

If you build yourself a society focused on food, vacations and sex, don't blame me when globalization buries you.

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (I2LwF)

38 My dad used to work for a French/Belgian oil refining company. He was a fairly diplomatic fellow, but he had nothing good to say about the French employees who came to do their internships. He said he had never met a bigger bunch of worthless, entitled people in his life.

Posted by: No good deed at February 20, 2013 03:41 PM (Zh05F)

39 EC what did I say? Yeah, probably I was.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:41 PM (0PiQ4)

40 We've come a long way since singing La Marseillaise at Rick's.

Posted by: Rick Blaine at February 20, 2013 03:41 PM (53z96)

41 BTW, riots to follow.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 03:41 PM (GGCsk)

42 Bash the French thread. Woohooooo! /

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 03:42 PM (uhftQ)

43 I'm fake internet blog friends with a woman in France. She surfs and rides a Sportster. The way she says 'purple' is really sexy.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 03:42 PM (8sCoq)

44 For some reason I kept thinking "Is this a Chinese scam?"

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (LCRYB)


rutroh....

they're onto us!!!!!

Posted by: Chinese Scammers at February 20, 2013 03:42 PM (xmcEQ)

45 I'm fake internet blog friends with a woman in France. She surfs and rides a Sportster. The way she says 'purple' is really sexy.
Posted by: Jones in CO
***

French squatch. /

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (uhftQ)

46 I have worked in France and read that this morning and LMAO!

How can the the French govt possibly respond to that without it sounding like "I fart in your general direction"?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (cCxiu)

47 >>>I think it's to show Bond is comfortable in every situation, and he's got an answer for every threat.

That's the way I interpreted it in Escape From Alcatraz. But that was 1979..

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (LPRBM)

48 Sounds like I need to move to France. Three hours a day sounds like an awful lot of work, tho.

Posted by: American Hipster Douchebag at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (vbh31)

49 35 - you will admit that French cuisine is one of the many attributes. You're a gourmand yourself, n'est ce pas?

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (GrVRu)

50 :::Bond responded by saying how would you know it would be my first time, or something like that. I've been trying to suss out the purpose for that line in the script. Was it a nod to the gay audience? :::

How does everybody not understand this? He absorbed Silva's attack and made it harmless. It's pretty fucking simple.

Seriously, try the gay thing on me. It's fucking pointless.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (CJjw5)

51
It's funny, but lazy entitled French workers perfectly fits my own internal, cynical generalization of them. That's why this is so satisfying.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (+xmn4)

52 Sooth

I think the film makers explanation was that Bond was referencing have been tortured before. Not teh gay.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:44 PM (0PiQ4)

53 EC what did I say? Yeah, probably I was.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:41 PM (0PiQ4)


It was about not clicking on any of my dirty, disgusting links. I had to think about what I linked to that you found dirty and disgusting. I don't think I did anything like that because I'm usually at work when I comment here and I can't link anything dirty or disgusting if I want to keep my job.Anyhoo, carry on!

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 03:44 PM (GQ8sn)

54 >French squatch. /

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (uhftQ)

she looks like Bettie Page

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 03:44 PM (8sCoq)

55

This sounds an awful lot like the Hostess debacle.

Union: Pay me or else.

Owners: Cant. We'd have to fold tent.

Union. Dont care. Pay me.

Owners: **** pulls down tent poles, sells the tarp. ****

Union: Wait.... wut???

Posted by: fixerupper at February 20, 2013 03:44 PM (nELVU)

56 "Looking through, most seem to be fairly supportive of Taylor's letter.


Posted by: JustLurkin' at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (EJQEA)"



Hmm, relatively bright spot in the day then

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:44 PM (yCvxi)

57 I've been trying to suss out the purpose for that line in the script. Was it a nod to the gay audience?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 03:33 PM (vzLhi)


In the book, From Russia With Love, Fleming has Rosa Kleb try to seduce ? the Russian heroine & IIRC - which I might not - wrote something to the effect that all spies both British and Russian were expected to be able to seduce members of both sexes because their missions (and thus their lives) might depend on it.

But it has been along time since I read the Fleming novels ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at February 20, 2013 03:44 PM (TvO05)

58 The French do need tires though. Thousands get burned in the streets every night.

Posted by: Roy at February 20, 2013 03:45 PM (VndSC)

59 Dude I spent half the summer in France.

There have never been more loafing, uncaring, apathetic moochers in one country.

They probably run the worst rail system in Europe, their security is a joke there are thieves just about everywhere and people live handout to handout. They have zero interest in anything resembling work.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 03:45 PM (GGCsk)

60 Seriously, try the gay thing on me. It's fucking pointless.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (CJjw5)


So....I hear you were a theater major in college?
*nudgenudgewinkwink*

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 03:45 PM (GQ8sn)

61 Back when I was a foreign exchange student in France, they told me that the daily vocabulary of the average Frenchman was just 1500 words. Doesn't seem like much but what does a Frenchman have to say other than "cheese, please," "I surrender," and "no deodorant for me, thanks?"

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (Hx5uv)

62
Well, if that letter is a big ol' FU to the Fwench gubmint and their union goon lackeys, then good.

Now, we need a letter like that to pretty much everyone in power in DC. The only bad thing about that is that they already know how stupid we are and are laughing their asses off at us at allthe cocktail parties.

Still, it would be nice just to get it off our collective chests.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (+z4pE)

63 So God Made A Liberal...

That piece was so awesome by soopermexican. Ace, reading your last post, you've got to chill man. Honestly. This is what happens. It's all cyclical.

What you view as despondency is actually very very good for the party, for the ideas. hone the message, make it about belief rather than fucking politics anymore.

Seriously man. But social conservatives are part of the tent. The real question is not whether or not you believe in gay marriage. The real question is does the fucking federal government have any business in the issue.

My vote is not. Unless there's another dormant gay marriage clause, our founding document has nothing to say on it, except seethe 10th Amendment, ELEVENTY!!!!

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (tVTLU)

64 she looks like Bettie Page
Posted by: Jones in CO
***

Transplant from other country? /

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (uhftQ)

65 Wasn't Ace learning French (SPIT) at some point? Shouldn't he translate?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (da5Wo)

66 Lazy frogs.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (wbmaj)

67 @14

My bad. I missed that before I posted.


Posted by: Tfox at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (DVC2D)

68 59 Dude I spent half the summer in France.There have never been more loafing, uncaring, apathetic moochers in one country.


We're already over 47%.

Posted by: Roy at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (VndSC)

69
"It sounds like one of those hoax e-mail letters you get forwarded all the time."
Same here. Not saying it's false, but note that the addressee (Mountebourg) was appointed to the MinRe on Feb. 13 of this year...
http://tinyurl.com/bb59n6q

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 03:46 PM (lbiWb)

70 Hmm, relatively bright spot in the day thenPosted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:44 PM (yCvxi)

You know what else is bright, figuratively I mean? A gamma ray burst frying us all at any second.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 03:47 PM (+xmn4)

71
Not diplomatic, but truthful and pithy. The guy is right 100%. Fuck you! Thats the American way froggies.

Posted by: maddogg at February 20, 2013 03:47 PM (OlN4e)

72

>>>Seriously, try the gay thing on me.

That would be silly. You're obviously a trained Canadian spy.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 03:47 PM (vanqS)

73 But it does seem to check out, at least as far as superficial background-- Marice M. Taylor is the head of Titan Tires.

Je suis M-U-A-R-i-C-E!

Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah
Some call me the gangster of love
Some people call me Maurice
'Cause I speak of the pompitous of love


Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2013 03:47 PM (r2PLg)

74 OT - John McCain in AZ town hall meeting says "We can't deport 11 million illegals...." or words to that effect.

I would just love for the IRS to use that same idiotic logic. "We can't possibly prosecute all of the tax cheats, so we will prosecute none of them."

Fat chance of that.

No, what the IRS does is find some high profile cases, then they COME DOWN ON THOSE CASES LIKE A TON OF BRICKS!

And, voila, the rest of us fall in line.

But supposedly that doesn't work with illegal immigration.


Posted by: navybrat at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (7zvJ4)

75 EC yeah, I was. We're good . I was talking about the blog in general sending off to google really dirty stuff. I get upset when there are pictures. But that's on me. I stupidly googled Lemon Party.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (0PiQ4)

76 When I was in Paris, I went by Lafayette's grave.

I am pretty sure I heard sobbing.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (GGCsk)

77 Seriously, try the gay thing on me.

fag

Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (KXm42)

78 Seriously, try the gay thing on me. It's fucking pointless.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 03:43 PM (CJjw5)


So I hear you're a dick sucking fag.



What?

Too far?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (da5Wo)

79 May he drink Bordeaux of inferior appellations for the rest of his squalid life!

Posted by: Jean Luc Pelletier at February 20, 2013 03:49 PM (mg08E)

80 Here's why gay marriage won't make most gays much happier.
Imagine you're a Muslim chick in America.
99% of America is totally cool with everything you've done. Be whatever religion you want. Marry whomever you want. Good for you.

But odds are you have some serious unhappiness in your life because, most likely, your mother and father are very, very disappointed in the lifestyle you've chosen.

The fact that 300 million other people are fine with it -- and a minority even celebrate it -- means very little to your happiness.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 03:49 PM (ZPrif)

81 Shorter Marice M. Taylor: I think your old french whore is dead.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 03:49 PM (QupBk)

82 she looks like Bettie Page

I think I know the chick, used to date Manti Te'o...

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 20, 2013 03:49 PM (GBXon)

83 59 - This is all true, yet, to be at all successful in France, one must take the French Bac (baccelaurate) which most people say is harder than our legal Bar exam. The French education system is excellent and it leads to the Bac, several days of extremely intense tests, none of which are multiple choice like our SATs. So it's interesting that the culture likes to loaf. Maybe they're tired from all the studying. But the French curriculum and its education system is the main reason I enrolled my daughter in a French school here. She will ultimately, go on to prepare for her international Bac, beginning in 9th grade.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 03:49 PM (GrVRu)

84 Seriously, try the gay thing on me. It's fucking pointless. Posted by: Empire of Jeff
***

I won't let you suck me into this...

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 03:49 PM (uhftQ)

85 Dude I spent half the summer in France.

There have never been more loafing, uncaring, apathetic moochers in one country.

They
probably run the worst rail system in Europe, their security is a joke
there are thieves just about everywhere and people live handout to
handout. They have zero interest in anything resembling work.



Maybe in the "motherland", but the French in the Caribbean aren't like that. I suppose it's because they're isolated and actually have to work if they want to keep their little paradise functioning for tourists and their money.

The first time I went there, the villa owner told me why St. Barths was so special:

"We're white, we're Christian, and we work hard."



Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 03:49 PM (GQ8sn)

86 How long till Ace starts writing in French?

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:50 PM (0PiQ4)

87

I read this this morning and laughed out loud.

I don't care if it's real.

It's real real to me.

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 03:50 PM (LpQbZ)

88
50 Seriously, try the gay thing on me
O.o
oh my

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 03:50 PM (660FR)

89 Yeah, we CAN deport 11 million illegals. McCain, as usual, is full of fucking stupid.

Posted by: maddogg at February 20, 2013 03:50 PM (OlN4e)

90 And another thing: the best thing about leftist policies is that they suck so bad eventually the American people vote them out. We haven't had true leftist policies since stupid Jimmy Carter. Yes I know Clinton, but he had his hands tied by the pubs after he tried healthcare and gun control.

And look how 1994 turned out. Don't get too down. I gots me a feeling 2014 is going to be a crazy year in congressional races.

WITH TOM COTTON AS OUR NEW SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS.

SUCK IT HONKIES.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 03:50 PM (tVTLU)

91 :::So....I hear you were a theater major in college?
*nudgenudgewinkwink*:::

Okay, seriously. That's gayer than telling me I'm gay.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 03:50 PM (qlxPe)

92 59
Dude I spent half the summer in France.

There have never been more loafing, uncaring, apathetic moochers in one country.

Until now!

Posted by: USA! USA! USA! at February 20, 2013 03:50 PM (RRbuy)

93

AMERICA!! FUCK YEAH!!!
Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 03:32 PM (I2LwF)



I really need to add this movie to my all time favorites, hehe.

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 03:51 PM (LpQbZ)

94 O.o
oh my


And you were skittish about the last thread...

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 20, 2013 03:51 PM (GBXon)

95 What we need to do is set these tires on FIRE.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 03:51 PM (zpqa2)

96 But supposedly that doesn't work with illegal immigration.




Posted by: navybrat at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (7zvJ4)

You h8ter! Why do you want to dump tons of bricks on illegals and kill them?

Posted by: Megan McCain at February 20, 2013 03:52 PM (6H6o8)

97 > "We can't deport 11 million illegals...." or words to that effect.

how do we know unless we try?

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 03:52 PM (8sCoq)

98 Seriously, try the gay thing on me. It's fucking pointless.

Come at me with that banana, bro!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 03:52 PM (QupBk)

99
Bet they work even less hours in a soap factory.

Posted by: YIKES! at February 20, 2013 03:52 PM (mETGQ)

100 >>>ow long till Ace starts writing in French?

on ne sais jemais, on peut commencer ecriter francias a n'importe quel moment

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 03:52 PM (LCRYB)

101 clicking through to the original French site, I wish I could read what the commenters were saying.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:36 PM (yCvxi)


probably the same crap that gwyneth paltrow and madonna are always babbling about...

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 03:53 PM (LpQbZ)

102 It's not just the French that are lazy, slothful, and unambitious. The Greeks, Italians, and Portugese have official nap times when they close businesses down from 2-4 pm.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:53 PM (0PiQ4)

103 Sassy:

That's interesting, but apparently they don't understand fucking economics 101. What is it that Reagan said about leftists:

"It isn't that they're ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so."

ELEVENTY!!!!

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 03:53 PM (tVTLU)

104 on ne sais jemais, on peut commencer ecriter francias a n'importe quel moment

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 03:52 PM (LCRYB)


Now see, that's gay.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 03:53 PM (da5Wo)

105 :::I won't let you suck me into this...::::

That was quality internetting.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 03:53 PM (qlxPe)

106
100 on ne sais jemais, on peut commencer ecriter francias a n'importe quel moment
O.o
oh my

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 03:53 PM (660FR)

107 Well if this is a hoax letter Fox has been sucked in. It is on their web page now via Reutors.

Posted by: Rick Blaine at February 20, 2013 03:53 PM (53z96)

108
WHOA!
All of the sudden the Dow is down 100 plus.

Posted by: YIKES! at February 20, 2013 03:54 PM (mETGQ)

109 @100
Shit ace is about to surrender

Posted by: Kerncon at February 20, 2013 03:54 PM (2PWuT)

110 EC yeah, I was. We're good . I was talking about
the blog in general sending off to google really dirty stuff. I get
upset when there are pictures. But that's on me. I stupidly googled
Lemon Party.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (0PiQ4)


Oh ok! Yeah, I wouldn't do that. There are some things that once seen, cannot be unseen. And there's a difference between telling someone go google something and linking it. If I'm going to tell someone to go search something, it's going to be something fairly innocuous. Linking something and then Rick Rolling them with a lemon party pic is, IMO, a ban-able offense. If I'm going to Rick Roll a link, it'll be something funny (Mooch pouting, a pic of a kitteh, etc).

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (GQ8sn)

111 I shouldn't have. Sorry, blog. Ace has brought the French.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (0PiQ4)

112 There's so many french fleeing France and living in London they have their own seat in parliament.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (NzBQO)

113 quand je lisais ce-la lettre, j'ai rire

Posted by: ace is now up to the imparfait tense and he's tres fier about that at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (LCRYB)

114 Sassy, I have a really nice lawnmower in my garage, but it is useless if I don't get my butt off the couch and push it around the yard. Do they teach that in France? heck, do they still teach it here?

Posted by: No good deed at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (Zh05F)

115 If any CEO is capable of writing this letter, it would be Taylor. However, it just seems so stupid to threaten to make tires in China and then import them into France I have my doubts. The too-obvious response from the French government would be "Fine. Here's your 10,000% tariff."

Even a raging asshole of a CEO didn't get where he is by not worrying about the bottom line.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (1+XRG)

116 WHOA!All of the sudden the Dow is down 100 plus.
Posted by: YIKES!
***

Did obama give another speech?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (uhftQ)

117 Nobody teaches a young foreign exchange student about urinary tract infections like a Frenchman. Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 03:40 PM (GJgbJ)

I had a French Foreign Exchange student as a stalker while I was in college. Lucky for me he smelled so bad I could smell him before I saw him allowing me to vanish before he got too close and begin his sales pitch about teaching me things unknown to American boys. <shudder>

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (kXoT0)

118 I stupidly googled Lemon Party.
Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (0PiQ4)



Ahhh, Lemon Party. Pretty much the driving force behind Rules for Morons #1.


Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 03:56 PM (VtjlW)

119 >>>I shouldn't have. Sorry, blog. Ace has brought the French.

vous savez que vous le voulaisez

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 03:56 PM (LCRYB)

120 French culture has many wonderful attributes. Work ethic, however, is lacking in their culture. Even the French who come to the U.S. admit this. The French who really want to succeed, come here, get Master's degrees or MBA degrees, and leave France.
Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 03:38 PM (GrVRu)



Years ago we had hired (temporarily) a girl from France. Then, we decided to offer on fulltime permanent status. She argued for more vacation time, etc, then what we offered, and held firm with what she wanted.

We shipped her @$$ back to France. She had been making good bucks, and had a great job. I think she really thought they would give her what she wanted. She lost. heh.

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 03:56 PM (LpQbZ)

121 If I'm going to Rick Roll a link, it'll be something funny (Mooch pouting, a pic of a kitteh, etc).

Adorable dancing birds with cute blue feet!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 03:56 PM (/kI1Q)

122 That's funny....I sort of saw Texas and California in there somewhere.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 03:56 PM (LRFds)

123 Here's how you deport all the illegals: put a bounty of $500 per ear on them.

You will get about three ears, but the rest of them will self-deport.

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 03:57 PM (I2LwF)

124 24 Hours of Lemons? (SFW if you Google)

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 03:57 PM (uhftQ)

125
The French can teach you a thing or two about cooking, that much is true. They are worth putting up with for the sauces, alone.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 03:57 PM (kOo4u)

126 I see one story where the Communist response was that the CEO was "a lunatic" and not fit for the position of running a large multi-national.


As if communists are able to recognize the qualities of someone capable of running a large multi-national.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:57 PM (yCvxi)

127 I shouldn't have. Sorry, blog. Ace has brought the French.
Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:55 PM (0PiQ4)



Hey, as long as the French leads to some pancakes, it's all good.



Adorable dancing birds with cute blue feet!
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 03:56 PM (/kI1Q)



Baaaaaaby lambs!

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (VtjlW)

128 Here's his webpage--looks like he has a blog.

*******

Morry "The Grizz" Taylor


Talk with The Grizz: Visit Morry's blog

View Morry's YouTube Channel: TheGrizzzly

USA Today Advertisement, October 19, 2010
USA Today Advertisement, October 23, 2008
USA Today Advertisement, February 2, 2006


Maurice M. Taylor Jr., chairman and chief executive of Titan International, Inc., led a leveraged buy-out of Titan in 1990 in concert with MascoTech. In 1992, Taylor and MascoTech purchased the remaining interest in this $100 million company from the Joseph Tannenbaum Trust. Under Taylor's entrepreneurial leadership, Titan has successfully acquired and recreated previously-failed businesses in the off-highway wheel and tire markets. In 1993, Taylor led the company through its initial public offering on the NASDAQ National Market System. After enjoying successful trading on NASDAQ, Titan moved to the New York Stock Exchange.

Taylor was nicknamed "The Grizz" by Wall Street analysts for his tough negotiating style.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (r2PLg)

129 Adorable dancing birds with cute blue feet!

Especially those! I love boobies.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (GQ8sn)

130 Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:36 PM (yCvxi)


If the site will let you, cut and paste the text on a translate site for a general idea on what is being said.


Posted by: YIKES! at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (mETGQ)

131 Damn my French is weak. Can anybody translate? What's Aces saying?

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (0PiQ4)

132 I love when people talk about the Dow being down 100 points. Who gives a shit!!?? It is almostback to 2007 levels.

The value of that money, not so much.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (tVTLU)

133 5 Truman North,

Bond was inspired by a Russian Con Man nee Agent who was bi-sexual as needed.

He saw sex as a tool, and in all likelihood the inference is so does Bond.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 03:59 PM (LRFds)

134 "Hours of Lemons? (SFW if you Google)"


I'm not googling anything about lemons.


Ever since EoJ had that party...

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 03:59 PM (yCvxi)

135 119 >>>I shouldn't have. Sorry, blog. Ace has brought the French.

vous savez que vous le voulaisez
Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 03:56 PM (LCRYB)

_____________

Why so serious...er, formal?

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2013 03:59 PM (r2PLg)

136 Baaaaaaby lambs for dinner!

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (VtjlW)




Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 03:59 PM (da5Wo)

137
I stupidly googled Lemon Party.
Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:48 PM (0PiQ4)


Yeah, I forgot to say 'sorry' for that the other day...
mostly because it would be a lie.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 03:59 PM (kOo4u)

138 They are doomed because the Socons are fighting to keep the tires from getting married.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 20, 2013 03:59 PM (WVMUQ)

139 Who would think that Ace could make French sound tough?




No, seriously. Who would think that?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 04:00 PM (qlxPe)

140 This is on Yahoo as well, with the French minister getting all butt hurt.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 20, 2013 04:00 PM (NzBQO)

141 Damn my French is weak. Can anybody translate? What's Aces saying?

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (0PiQ4)


All your base are belong to us.

Posted by: © Sponge at February 20, 2013 04:00 PM (xmcEQ)

142 Damn my French is weak. Can anybody translate? What's Aces saying?



Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (0PiQ4)


"Don't google lemon party."

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 04:01 PM (GQ8sn)

143
>>>What's Aces saying?

translation: you're a fag and your shits all retarded

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 04:01 PM (yhYn1)

144 Rove used to advise an act as a consultant for French elections.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:01 PM (53z96)

145
#128,
Which seemingly hasn't been updated in years. FWIW, the letter dates don't add up (see link posted above), and all reports circle back to one source. So, it could be true, or not. We'll have to wait see.

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 04:01 PM (lbiWb)

146
The French can teach you a thing or two about cooking, that much is true. They are worth putting up with for the sauces, alone.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 03:57 PM (kOo4u)
Reminds me of that old joke about French cooking.You make any thing taste good with enough butter, garlic and wine.Even snails.

Posted by: YIKES! at February 20, 2013 04:02 PM (mETGQ)

147 Was that you Garrett? You were a sock though, I think. thankfully, I read the description first, vomited next, and the pic was just below the bottom of my screen so I could only see grey hair. Then I ran like hell.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 04:02 PM (0PiQ4)

148 translation: you're a fag fanboi and your shits all retarded

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 04:01 PM (yhYn1)



Fixed for accuracy

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 04:02 PM (da5Wo)

149 This is on Yahoo as well, with the French minister getting all butt hurt.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand
***

Back to the gay thing. Jeez.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 04:02 PM (uhftQ)

150 on ne sais jemais, on peut commencer ecriter francias a n'importe quel momentPosted by: ace at February 20, 2013 03:52 PM (LCRYB)

See what I mean? Talking instead of working.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 04:03 PM (+xmn4)

151
I love when people talk about the Dow being down 100 points. Who gives a shit!!?? It is almostback to 2007 levels.



The value of that money, not so much.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (tVTLU)

Too many economically illiterate people conflate the Dow with GDP.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 20, 2013 04:03 PM (NzBQO)

152 Right, a guy nicknamed Grizz couldn't write a letter like that to Fwench commies. Nor could a guy named maddogg.

Posted by: maddogg at February 20, 2013 04:03 PM (OlN4e)

153
>>Damn my French is weak. Can anybody translate? What's Aces saying?<<

'Yub, yub nub yub nub.'

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 04:03 PM (kOo4u)

154 tasker, "THE GRIZZ," That's awesome.

Well if he's called "THE GRIZZ" I think that ends any questions about the letter's provenance!

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:04 PM (LCRYB)

155 The DOW no longer means shit about anything. It never meant anything about the economy, but now it doesn't even mean what companies are actually worth and who is a good buy.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:04 PM (53z96)

156
Remember the Titans! oh and fuck the french.

except for the fries. and toast. maybe some wine. But that's it. and a good tongue kiss. Done. Au revoir baiseurs de mère!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2013 04:04 PM (p/cQy)

157 I said (bear in mind this is probably loaded with mistakes)

One never knows, one could start speaking french at any moment.

then,

When I read the letter, I laughed.

then, in response to L'elle,

You know you wanted it.

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:05 PM (LCRYB)

158 The Dow is only used as a tool for the Fed, propaganda value, and as a casino. It is not an economic indicator.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 04:05 PM (zpqa2)

159 I mean: One could start WRITING french at any moment.

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:06 PM (LCRYB)

160 "Marice M. Taylor is the head of Titan Tires."

Maurice.

Imagine if we had run and won with this guy back in 1996.

I liked him, he was a no-shit straight-talk fellow, but the establishment had picked Dole and the primaries were essentially over by the time I got a chance to vote.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 20, 2013 04:06 PM (gqT4g)

161 1 AMERICA!! FUCK YEAH!!!

Probably the best marionette sex scene ever.

Posted by: jwest at February 20, 2013 04:06 PM (ZDsRL)

162 One wonders how many of the fabled low information voters (aka stupid fks) know where the name "Titans" actually comes from.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:06 PM (53z96)

163 fuck french fries and french toast.

onion rings and texas toast ftw.

Posted by: No Feet Johnson at February 20, 2013 04:06 PM (KHo8t)

164 You're right, Ace. I did. Howd you know?

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 04:07 PM (0PiQ4)

165 Six years of French in school, and every teacher would always go on about their 35 hour work week and how great it was. I always figured it would catch up to them, someday.

Posted by: brak at February 20, 2013 04:07 PM (iEoiA)

166 One wonders how many of the fabled low information voters (aka stupid fks) know where the name "Titans" actually comes from.

Or even what the root word actually meant...

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 20, 2013 04:08 PM (GBXon)

167 #162. It's Greek, and no, I'm not going there.

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 04:08 PM (lbiWb)

168 The flame thread is still burning.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 04:08 PM (zpqa2)

169
ftr, Teh SARAH!!!! could kill this dude with her bare hands
just saying

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:08 PM (660FR)

170 Grizz. Big fucking deal.

Posted by: Honey Badger, Bitch! at February 20, 2013 04:08 PM (6H6o8)

171 Texas toast. What a fucking joke.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 04:08 PM (kOo4u)

172 168 - That wasn't a flame, it was a conflagration. It was like 500 posts in 23 seconds.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 04:08 PM (+xmn4)

173 |)

just testing random stuff

sorry to interrupt

Posted by: Mindy at February 20, 2013 04:08 PM (gBOQE)

174 Damn I accidentally deleted the bit in my scenario -- it was you are a muslim chick who converts to Christianity and marries a Christian dude. And how your family will probably still be upset even if the rest of America is cool with it. Damn touchpad, ruined my whole point.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2013 04:09 PM (ZPrif)

175 if that guy's GRIZZ where's DOTCOM who was last seen LAST SEASON?

Posted by: HoboJerkyPlover at February 20, 2013 04:09 PM (xAtAj)

176 Yeah, it's real. The fucking Indians, dot not feather, told the frogs to fuck off too.

The frogs wanted them to buy a steel mill and run it with the union, the dots said get fucked.


You know the state that manufacturers the most tires in the nation right?

SC, sorry Ohio you turn coat MFers

Posted by: Billy Bob, The guy who drinks in SC at February 20, 2013 04:09 PM (wR+pz)

177 "vous savez que vous le voulaisez"

Ah, I see ace has been staring into the headlights again.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 04:10 PM (1+XRG)

178 If any CEO is capable of writing this letter, it would be Taylor.
However, it just seems so stupid to threaten to make tires in China and
then import them into France I have my doubts. The too-obvious response
from the French government would be "Fine. Here's your 10,000%
tariff."


Fine. You get to tell your voters why they're paying $5,000 for a new set of tires they had to buy on the black market.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2013 04:10 PM (SY2Kh)

179 Please don't tell me Marice M. Taylor is ghey.


I've had enough of that.

Posted by: Billy Bob, The guy who drinks in SC at February 20, 2013 04:10 PM (wR+pz)

180
168 The flame thread is still burning
really? since i'm getting ready to go to the range and murder some paper...
where's that gas and my zippo?

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:10 PM (660FR)

181 you can't always get what you want;


but if you try some time, you just might find...........you get what you need

Posted by: the Rolling Stones at February 20, 2013 04:11 PM (Dll6b)

182 Big Michelin plant in Columbia.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:11 PM (53z96)

183 They are doomed because the Socons are fighting to keep the tires from getting married.

Because they're black.

Racist!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 04:11 PM (QupBk)

184 The used to be the hardest working whores in the world, now they just lie there in a pool of ennui laced with cigarette smoke.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (mg08E)

185 The DOW is only 30 companies, it's never meant anything.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (epxV4)

186 He took the time to write rather than send an audio clip of him laughing out loud? That's some real polite business dealing right there.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (hLRSq)

187 >>>
Why so serious...er, formal?

on ne tutoye personne si on ne connais bien personne

ehhhh... I don't know how to say that.

on ne tutoye personne si on ne connais pas quelqu'on de bien?

I don't know. I'm not up to that yet.

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (LCRYB)

188 68
59 Dude I spent half the summer in France.There have never been more loafing, uncaring, apathetic moochers in one country.




So, I guess you have never been to Greece or Spain?

Posted by: Billy Bob, The guy who drinks in SC at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (wR+pz)

189 I've had enough of that.


Posted by: Billy Bob, The guy who drinks in SC at February 20, 2013 04:10 PM (wR+pz)


But you MUST BE TOLERANT or you will be labeled a homophobe with a scarlet H on your back to be ridiculed for eternity.

Posted by: © Sponge at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (xmcEQ)

190 Are the Titan tires white?

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (53z96)

191 Baaaaaaby lambs for dinner!

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 03:58 PM (VtjlW)



Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 03:59 PM (da5Wo)



What's hilarious is that it works with both meanings.


Alors! J'ai un triste. Mon chocolat? Est finis. Je suis tres tres vexee.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (VtjlW)

192 The French should use that rubber to make more condoms to help them continue not-breeding themselves out of existance.

Vive la condom!

Posted by: zsasz at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (MMC8r)

193 your French grammar sucks, btw. Frenchmen everywhere are alarmed !


zut alors!

Posted by: Jaquizz Julio N'Domekan Wazoo at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (Dll6b)

194 I really can't celebrate that letter knowing that I take an hour and half lunch, on the internet for 4 hours and work about 3 1/2 hours.

If any of you jackwagons report me, I'll deny everything.

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 04:13 PM (m2CN7)

195 That Michelin Man?

Ghey.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 04:13 PM (zpqa2)

196 190
Are the Titan tires white?


Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (53z96)


Just the walls

Posted by: Billy Bob, The guy who drinks in SC at February 20, 2013 04:13 PM (wR+pz)

197 Just the walls


Posted by: Billy Bob, The guy who drinks in SC at February 20, 2013 04:13 PM (wR+pz)

They must be covered in white clay.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:14 PM (53z96)

198 Just in: Boehner will Suck for Prezzy on Sequestration........
There is an old saying, once you suck #$%^&* your a #$%^&* sucker for life...
Carry on.

Posted by: Clemenza at February 20, 2013 04:14 PM (x59Gv)

199 so gay

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 04:14 PM (8sCoq)

200 If any of you jackwagons report me, I'll deny everything.

It's 'jacques-wagon,' Frenchie.

Posted by: zsasz at February 20, 2013 04:14 PM (MMC8r)

201 Maybe it's a the heavy sauces that make them so lazy.

If only there was someone there to take a firm hand....

Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at February 20, 2013 04:14 PM (piMMO)

202 I think this is the guy who was in the R primaries for a bit in 1996 (Dole's year). Chronicled in a Michael Lewis book. Yes I am that old

Posted by: Paul K at February 20, 2013 04:14 PM (YoazC)

203
180 that should blow out some heart valves
have fun kiddies, gotta try out a sig 250 .40 I have my eye on
don't trash the place too bad

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:14 PM (660FR)

204 It always ends in surrender anyway. Have some cheese and snails and chill out.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at February 20, 2013 04:15 PM (71LDo)

205 The DOW is only 30 companies, it's never meant anything.


Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (epxV4)

To thinking people, yes.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 04:15 PM (zpqa2)

206 It's a shame because I have met some wonderful French people who are temporarily living here. These particular people speak English so well and accent-free, you wouldn't even know they were French. I wish all French people could learn English that well. The people I'm friendly with in particular, have made a huge effort. Some of them don't even want to go back to France. One woman in her mid 20's who is wonderful, kind and incredibly intelligent - with a Masters in linguistics from DePaul University, is very sad at the prospect of having to return to France in July if she does not find a full time job in her field: education. She is a wonderful soul. The Visas there make it difficult for the French to remain here for extended period of time and work while they're here.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:15 PM (GrVRu)

207 Alors! J'ai un triste. Mon chocolat? Est finis. Je suis tres tres vexee.

***

Is that English?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 20, 2013 04:15 PM (piMMO)

208 Indeedily do. The Dow and the markets are very weird. With BB at the helm, that Fed is going to be loose for ELEVENTY!!!

At 5% Fed rates, just what would our debt service payments be. You think we are fucked now??!!

and French is still gay. I don't give a shit about how I'm supposed to like the homos and help them lube up as a part of the new GOP minority outreach.

I'm not doing it!!! I stand with Christopher Hitchens against the muslim crazies:

Para. "That would mean that I would have to live at the mercies of Islamic Rage Boy, and that I am not prepared to do."

If I can't call something gay that's gay, then every last one of you can fuck off!!!! We should be the party that's willing to call a spade a spade, a ghetto a ghetto, a welfare queen a welfare queen, etc.

Truth to power. In this era of soundbytes, that's what works.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 04:15 PM (tVTLU)

209 Ace--

Here is his blog--but it's sort of dead.

http://www.grizztalk.com

He also has videos but haven't fired them up.




Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2013 04:16 PM (r2PLg)

210 I really can't celebrate that letter knowing that I take an hour and half lunch, on the internet for 4 hours and work about 3 1/2 hours.

What a toady. I've worked a total 27 minutes today.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 04:16 PM (QupBk)

211
gotta try out a sig 250 .40 I have my eye on
don't trash the place too bad


Do they make that in Pink?

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 04:16 PM (kOo4u)

212 I don't understand. What about the gheys? Who cares about all this union stuff, are the tires gay? Can they marry other tires?

Why is ace dropping the ball on the issues of our times?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 04:16 PM (QxSug)

213 They must be covered in white clay.

But do they stretch...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 20, 2013 04:16 PM (GBXon)

214 "Six years of French in school, and every teacher would always go on about their 35 hour work week and how great it was. I always figured it would catch up to them, someday."

I'm pretty sure they scrapped the 35 hour week a few years back. They also raised the retirement age, which was, I think, 50 for government and union employees.

OTOH, it used to be 50 for civil servants in the US. When I was a contractor working with civil servants, they could retire as soon as (years of service) + (age) = 80, as long as you were 50 years old. So there were a lot of guys who retired right at 50.

And the kicker was at that time you could subtract accumulated sick leave from your retirement date. The guy I worked with was able to clear out his desk six months early.

The system isn't as nice now. I think the minimum age got raised.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 04:17 PM (1+XRG)

215 I give Ace an "A" for effort with his French grammar and spelling.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:17 PM (GrVRu)

216
211 yes they do
its called the 'boystown teehee'

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:17 PM (660FR)

217 I'll say this again.



http://tinyurl.com/ychydq5

Posted by: The guy with the Homo problem at February 20, 2013 04:18 PM (wR+pz)

218 suelement connards, ici. Toute le Monde connards et salauds.

Posted by: Jaquizz Julio N'Domekan Wazoo at February 20, 2013 04:18 PM (Dll6b)

219 Congrats tasker! Ace mentioned your "The Grizz" comment over on The Conversation. Of course, he still thinks you're s 'Ron.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 04:19 PM (wbeNt)

220
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:17 PM (660FR)

Heh. That's a nice pistol. Enjoy.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 04:19 PM (kOo4u)

221
oh and hey sassy!!!
me and the little one are going home in mid may!!!
pls ensure the temps are in the mid 70s pls

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:19 PM (660FR)

222 Is that English?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 20, 2013 04:15 PM (piMMO)



Yes. Yes, it is.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 04:20 PM (VtjlW)

223 So, I guess you have never been to Greece or Spain?


I slipped in grease once & had a bad sprain. Close enough?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 04:20 PM (GFM2b)

224 221 - I'll do my best to have that talk with Mother Nature. Mid May is tricky here though. Most years its still in the low 60s and upper 50's because for as much as I enjoy other aspects of this city, Chicago weather fucking sucks.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:20 PM (GrVRu)

225 The most important French phrase when researching genealogy:

Avez votre grand-père sais assez de français pour dire à votre grand-mère où il était en Allemagne?

Posted by: Mark E at February 20, 2013 04:21 PM (w5RwR)

226 gaY french people must be super-ghey

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 04:21 PM (8sCoq)

227
I'm wondering why the hell Grizz even talked to the French.


Surely he knew better. Maybe he just wanted to piss them off for fun.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 20, 2013 04:21 PM (1Y+hH)

228 191 Alors! J'ai un triste. Mon chocolat? Est finis. Je suis tres tres vexee.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 04:12 PM (VtjlW)



You know I don't speak Spanish Baxter!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 04:21 PM (VQ18f)

229
Is that guy eligible for Speaker of the House? Senate Minority leader? Any position in the world where he could give Obama and the Democrats the same kind of treatment.

Posted by: California Red at February 20, 2013 04:21 PM (cB0VK)

230 I'm confused: American Teacher's Unions make tires in France?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at February 20, 2013 04:22 PM (UrENZ)

231 211

gotta try out a sig 250 .40 I have my eye on
don't trash the place too bad


Another attempt a tread jacking?

Ordered son a Marlin 1894, 44 mag for his B day. They took halve my money and said see you in June at the earliest.

Walmart gun store was fucking empty! four shotguns and no ammo.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:22 PM (wR+pz)

232 Damn - does anyone on this thread not know any French at all? I'm reading these posts and the spelling is atrocious and so is the grammar. Do you not even try, people???? It's not that hard to download Becherelle conjugaison and a dictionary.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:22 PM (GrVRu)

233 #160 I wondered if anyone would remember him running in the GOP primaries. He was pretty unpolished, but I liked him and he made a lot of sense.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 20, 2013 04:22 PM (GoIUi)

234
224 its what keeps me here
my old grade school is having their 125th bday so my sisters talked me into going
mt. carmel over on Belmont so back to the old neighborhood I go
plus I checked and the cubbies are playing the mets that weekend

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:23 PM (660FR)

235 Somehow, I get the feeling that a guy named "The Grizz" expects his employees (I fucking hate using the Communist word "workers" BTW) to put in 8 hours work in exchange for 8 hours of pay.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 04:23 PM (+z4pE)

236 I have visited the factory a couple of times. The French workforce gets paid high wages but works only three hours. They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three, and work for three. I told this to the French union workers to their faces. They told me that’s the French way!

It's increasingly the American way too, especially among the special snowflake juiceboxers. Their workday consists mainly of updating their Twitter and Facebook pages, gossiping or bitching to coworkers, manufacturing drama, shopping online, and if pushed they'll do some actual productive work for a half hour or so

Then they go home and talk about how tired and overworked they are, and how oppressive their bosses are

Posted by: kbdabear at February 20, 2013 04:23 PM (mCvL4)

237 Sassy:

Easy now! I did not have the time to take that uber difficult French aptitude test. i was too busy fucking working!!! stay warm.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (tVTLU)

238 Do you not even try, people????

If we try, we might fail. This way is easier. N'es pas?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (QupBk)

239 This is the same Morry Taylor that ran for president in 1996, right?

Posted by: Doc at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (2L0KY)

240 The DOW no longer means shit about anything. It never meant anything about the economy, but now it doesn't even mean what companies are actually worth and who is a good buy.
Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:04 PM (53z96)



no kidding
whenever I mention this over at the WSJ, I get hell fires tossed at me

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (LpQbZ)

241
Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:22 PM (GrVRu)



I haven't been involved in the French here, but fucking up the French language drives the French crazy. It's worth it just for that.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (1Y+hH)

242 238 - you spelled that wrong just to taunt me, didn't you?

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (GrVRu)

243 232Damn - does anyone on this thread not know any French at all? I'm reading these posts and the spelling is atrocious and so is the grammar. Do you not even try, people???? It's not that hard to download Becherelle conjugaison and a dictionary.Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:22 PM (GrVRu)

As much as my life would be enriched by knowing how to say something in a dying language, I'll pass.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (+xmn4)

244 >>>I don't understand. What about the gheys? Who cares about all this union stuff, are the tires gay? Can they marry other tires?

you say that, and yet I'm not the one agitating for Daddy Government to tell me what to think about Teh Geyz.

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (LCRYB)

245 Do you not even try, people???? It's not that hard to download Becherelle conjugaison and a dictionary.
Posted by: Sassy


Ah, there's the famous French attitude on learning French; if you aren't perfect, don't try!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (Ipj15)

246
232 Damn - does anyone on this thread not know any French at all?
French? uggggh
Italian and Spanish here, aka the cool kids lingos

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:24 PM (660FR)

247 French Gay people act straight.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 20, 2013 04:25 PM (qyv02)

248 206 If she was Mexican we could put her on a path to citizenship.
Juan McCain

Posted by: steevy at February 20, 2013 04:25 PM (9XBK2)

249 I slipped in grease once had a bad sprain. Close enough?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 04:20 PM (GFM2b)
LOL

Yeah, good, now work Portugal in there somewhere.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:25 PM (wR+pz)

250 >>>I haven't been involved in the French here, but fucking up the French language drives the French crazy.

fucking up a language is the first step in getting it right.

I mean, seriously, not being funny; but a baby doesn't start speaking perfectly at first either.

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:25 PM (LCRYB)

251 Does this mean we can send the French a bill for WW2 and the Marshall Plan ? Somehow this article/letter seems fraudulent . I mean no "sex" break ? And what about the time set aside for white flag classes .

Posted by: DrDrill at February 20, 2013 04:26 PM (sOFZs)

252 All these years the Spaniards and all other places that built in a three hour siesta got a bad rap. Hey, at least they're sleeping, the french are just lazy yappers.

Posted by: Snarky the Bear at February 20, 2013 04:26 PM (/b8+5)

253 It's not that hard to download Becherelle conjugaison and a dictionary.


Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:22 PM (GrVRu)



I hate having tinyurl up and you think I'm going to download something to participate in French?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 04:26 PM (yCvxi)

254 232 Damn - does anyone on this thread not know any French at all?

--

No, all we have is this stupid accent. Heh, heh. heh. We all sound like Maurice Chevalier


Posted by: Mme LaFarge at February 20, 2013 04:26 PM (w5RwR)

255 This Grizz Taylor challenges unions and sounds tough and all, but so did Chris Christie. A lot of desperate conservatives were impressed by Christie until the nation realized he was a gun-grabber who'd eventually genuflect before the SCOAMF.

So, I like this Taylor - and would subscribe to his newsletter - but I'll hold out on wanting him to run for office until I've seen the planks in his platform. Won't be fooled again, mes amis.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 20, 2013 04:26 PM (n4EDK)

256 I'm currently reading "Attack" by Erwin Rommel. First person account of his exploits against the Fwench and others in WW I. Chapter after chapter of "We kicked their asses". I may not finish it.

Posted by: maddogg at February 20, 2013 04:26 PM (OlN4e)

257 I have the conjugaison and translation downloaded to my phone as Apps. That way, I can check the spelling and conjugation of any verb at the drop of a hat. It has come in handy several times.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:26 PM (GrVRu)

258 I mean, seriously, not being funny; but a baby doesn't start speaking perfectly at first either.Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:25 PM (LCRYB)

They will if you shake them hard enough. (too much?)

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 04:26 PM (+xmn4)

259 "Dude I spent half the summer in France.There have never been more loafing, uncaring, apathetic moochers in one country."

What a contrast. Hop over the border into Germany and you'll never find a more conscientious and hard-working labor force. There's a reason German workers make more money than Frenchies and yet the country is an export powerhouse.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 04:27 PM (1+XRG)

260 232
Damn - does anyone on this thread not know any French at all? I'm
reading these posts and the spelling is atrocious and so is the grammar.
Do you not even try, people???? It's not that hard to download
Becherelle conjugaison and a dictionary.



si vrai!

Posted by: Sec of State Kerry at February 20, 2013 04:27 PM (wR+pz)

261

Same as anywhere. I too had to work in Paris due to my job, and yes, they drank wine at lunchtime, but they also worked hard -- perhaps because we were there (and we hired them to do a job for us).

I also worked with a frenchman, straight from France, and we became friends. He once said, with a straight face, and total honesty, how the french were so much "smarter" than Americans.

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 04:28 PM (LpQbZ)

262 "Flying Bearclaws and Hibernation Holds and Honey Bottom Seatdrops."

Uh, oh. Are these euphemisms for something I'd rather not know about. I once made the mistake of googling "dirty sanchez".

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2013 04:28 PM (tAOpG)

263 If a publicly held company cut 2,000 jobs tomorrow their stock would probably skyrocket. The DOW doesn't mean shit in terms of the economy. It's just a playground for retirement funds, and futures, that's it!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 20, 2013 04:29 PM (NzBQO)

264 The best quote I thought was this:

"Titan is the one with the money and the talent to produce tires. What does the crazy union have? It has the French government."
--
According to Atlas Shrugged, the fascist ball is in their court. So expect some punishing and more stupid law to be forthcoming.

Posted by: Whatev at February 20, 2013 04:29 PM (A7Wh1)

265
250 fucking up a language is the first step in getting it right
depends
I speak fluent Italian because I dabbled with it growing up cause my grandma spoke very poor English
then I lived in sardinia for 6 years
I learned that you have to try and if you do the locals will help you a lot cause they thinks its great that you want to learn and you are trying

in france oth, they treat you like dogshit for having the balls to fuck up their language

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:29 PM (660FR)

266 >>>Avez votre grand-père sais assez de français pour dire à votre grand-mère où il était en Allemagne?

Les rues de Paris sont bordees avec les bois que les allemagnes peut marcher dans l'ombre.

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:29 PM (LCRYB)

267 259: Yes, Germans rock. Anglos versus southern Europe. every fucking time. They used to write books on how to pick juries based on those differences.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 04:29 PM (tVTLU)

268 How stupid do you think we are?

assez stupide pour élire le Kenya deux fois

Posted by: Ask Le French Computer at February 20, 2013 04:30 PM (bGlsD)

269 @262: Just assume anything anyone says here that you don't understand is equally gross and you probably won't be wrong.

Especially when Ace is talking in French.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 20, 2013 04:30 PM (B/VB5)

270 >>>
Uh, oh. Are these euphemisms for something I'd rather not know about. I once made the mistake of googling "dirty sanchez".

nah just the specialized pro wrestling moves I'd expect from "The Grizz."

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:30 PM (LCRYB)

271 "All these years the Spaniards and all other places that built in a three hour siesta got a bad rap. Hey, at least they're sleeping, the french are just lazy yappers."

The Spaniards are sleeping pretty much all day recently. None of them have jobs.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 04:30 PM (1+XRG)

272 Damn - does anyone on this thread not know any French at all? I'm
----
If I'm looking for Lucie, and get told she is at the museum, then yes, I'm fluent.

Posted by: Whatev at February 20, 2013 04:30 PM (A7Wh1)

273 The last good thing the French did was show up at Yorktown with their fleet.

We've been paying back that fucking shit for almost 300 years now.

Enough.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:31 PM (wR+pz)

274

This thread reminded me of the book Perfume: The Story of a Murderer by Patrick Suskind.

fun read, hehe

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 04:31 PM (LpQbZ)

275 226
gaY french people must be super-ghey


How would you know?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:31 PM (wR+pz)

276 "Les rues de Paris sont bordees avec les bois que les allemagnes peut marcher dans l'ombre."


My favorite French joke. Glad to see my rudimentary French was able to pick up on it without the translator.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 04:32 PM (yCvxi)

277


Posted by: Sec of State Kerry at February 20, 2013 04:27 PM (wR+pz)


Vous êtes un enfant bâtard d'une putain face à cheval.

Posted by: S Car Go at February 20, 2013 04:32 PM (mETGQ)

278

Damn - does anyone on this thread not know any French at all?

my husband is french
one of those "compromises" I had to make

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 04:32 PM (LpQbZ)

279 Hop over the border into Germany and you'll never find a more conscientious and hard-working labor force.

Except for the eight weeks of vacation and the 27 public holidays. If I had an euro for everytime I've been at work and gotten an e-mail about "Nice day at the Biergarten (public holiday for Schweinsteiger)"...

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 04:32 PM (/kI1Q)

280 After reading the horrific spelling and mismatched grammar here, I can somewhat sympathize with the French when they say we butcher their language. The problem is that we don't start teaching languages early enough in this country. It shouldn't wait until high school. Kids need to start a new language right away, every day, for at least an hour a day. And even that's not enough.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:32 PM (GrVRu)

281

speaking of french cooking...

time to go prep for dinner

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 04:33 PM (LpQbZ)

282 What the hell can the French do about it, good on this guy.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 20, 2013 04:34 PM (NzBQO)

283 Kids need to start a new language right away, every day, for at least an hour a day. And even that's not enough.
----
Or do what we do now. Let them learn our language. The French seem to have plenty of spare time on the job to do that.

Posted by: Whatev at February 20, 2013 04:34 PM (A7Wh1)

284 >>>After reading the horrific spelling and mismatched grammar here, I can somewhat sympathize with the French when they say we butcher their language.

Quel horreur!

Comment osez-vous?

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:34 PM (LCRYB)

285
assez stupide pour élire le Kenya deux fois

Shee-it, Ah speak Southernese, and Ah knows that'un.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 04:34 PM (+z4pE)

286 Damn - does anyone on this thread not know any French at all? I'm reading these posts and the spelling is atrocious and so is the grammar. Do you not even try, people???? It's not that hard to download Becherelle conjugaison and a dictionary.
Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:22 PM (GrVRu)



Dude. I threw in I have a sad in French. Do you really think I care if that's conjugated and/or spelled properly?


Hell, we can't even have ampersands (well, you can't I can &&&&&&. What makes you think we can have grave and acute accent marks?

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 04:34 PM (VtjlW)

287
280 agreed but come on, its FRENCH
when you cant make fun of the French...then the terrorists have won

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:34 PM (660FR)

288 Hop over the border into Germany


one thing I distinctly remember about germany (munich, in particular) was dogs and dog poop everywhere -- they were allowed in the stores.

*cheers.

Posted by: beach at February 20, 2013 04:35 PM (LpQbZ)

289 182 Big Michelin plant in Columbia.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 04:11 PM (53z96)

And Greenville and Spartanburg and Anderson and one under construction in Starr (Anderson Co.)

Posted by: BignJames at February 20, 2013 04:35 PM (j7iSn)

290 More than 20 years ago I was on my first business trip to France. At the end of my first day there, I got a call that my Grandmother had died. All the arrangements were made for when I got back to the states in 4-5 days and I did my best to get through the trip as professionally as possible. The day before I left was Sunday. My contact person in-country invited me to come with he and his family to Mass. He didn't make a big deal out of it and I accepted. It was in this very old stone church in Milly-la-Foret. Went in, sat down and to my amazement, they did a funeral Mass for my Grandmother. In French and Latin. I only understood her name - but I know how the Mass goes. I cried through the whole thing.

My contact had just met me and the priest and parish knew me not at all. For all their other failings, I will always be grateful to the French for touching me very deeply that day.

Posted by: Muad'dib - Reluctant Defender of the French at February 20, 2013 04:35 PM (KjlbF)

291 284 - Ace, call mini Sassy. She will be happy to talk with you, free of charge.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:35 PM (GrVRu)

292
The last good thing the French did was show up at Yorktown with their fleet.

We've been paying back that fucking shit for almost 300 years now.

Enough.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:31 PM (wR+pz)


Actually, we almost fought a war with the French not that long after the American Revolution. The issue, IIRC, was freedom of the seas, much like the War of 1812.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2013 04:35 PM (IDSI7)

293 O/T what is the bullshit lately about firearm insurance making the rounds?


These assholes just. never. stop.


Ever.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 04:35 PM (yCvxi)

294 Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:32 PM (GrVRu)


The only french I know is "Fuck You".


I usually remind my frog friends, when they give me shit, that but for the blood and sweat of Americans, you fuckers would be speaking German.

That usually shuts their pie holes up.



Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:35 PM (wR+pz)

295 Sassy, in Mobile, AL they started teaching us Spanish in the second grade.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 04:36 PM (+z4pE)

296 280After reading the horrific spelling and mismatched grammar here, I can somewhat sympathize with the French when they say we butcher their language.

It's this sort of shit that makes me hostile to the French.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 04:36 PM (+xmn4)

297
278 my husband is French

my wife is Sicilian/Spanish and armed
how's that for sacrifice

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:37 PM (660FR)

298 Ah, here it is: "The Quasi-War: America's First Conflict," at MilitaryHistory.about.com. It was during the French Revolution.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2013 04:37 PM (IDSI7)

299 Vous êtes un enfant bâtard d'une putain face à cheval.

----


I don't speak a lick of French..... but got a pretty good idea THAT wasnt "nice"

Posted by: fixerupper at February 20, 2013 04:38 PM (nELVU)

300 want to know my nickname for French?

"Retarded Latin."

they have this whole weird thing with refusing to use the simple past tense in speech. The simple past ("he ran") does exist, but it used almost exclusively in writing.

Speech uses the imperfect ("was running") and the past perfect ("had run"). But no "he ran."

it's retarded. They seem to have done this because it's marginally easier to remember the other tenses.

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 04:38 PM (LCRYB)

301 The last good thing the French did was show up at Yorktown with their fleet.

They didn't do it because they liked us; they did it because they hated the British.

Posted by: Muad'dib - Reluctant Defender of the French

That is an awesome story.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 04:38 PM (/kI1Q)

302 After reading the horrific spelling and mismatched grammar here, I can somewhat sympathize with the French when they say we butcher their language.

Quel horreur!

Comment osez-vous?



I wonder if the french would prefer speaking German?

They're welcome. Twice.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 04:38 PM (GFM2b)

303 Actually, we almost fought a war with the French not
that long after the American Revolution. The issue, IIRC, was freedom
of the seas, much like the War of 1812.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2013 04:35 PM (IDSI7)

Yeah, I vaguely remember that and the fact that they still claim some islands off New Brunswick. Frog islands off shore.
http://tinyurl.com/3x5olf

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:38 PM (wR+pz)

304 I just think it's important to be bilingual. No matter the language. Preferably a language that you can use later on. I'm Spanish-ed out, personally. I'm fluent in Spanish and am conversational in French. Used to be fluent in both. Lived over in Spain and France when I was younger. But the French curriculum is stellar. Very structured. The kind of structure that's good for my kid. Plus they all look so cute in their red, white and blue uniforms speaking with perfect French accents.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:38 PM (GrVRu)

305 The update makes sense to me. I didn't read this as "undiplomatic" but rather "uncouth". You know, like, this is a guy whose shit is not fucked up, and does not talk like a fag.

Sort of a Jimmy James character.

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 04:39 PM (I2LwF)

306 Vous êtes un enfant bâtard d'une putain face à cheval.
----
Something about a baby, and Putin at the dunes. French are fricking crazy.

Posted by: Whatev at February 20, 2013 04:39 PM (A7Wh1)

307 French Tires? What the crap?! Now Freedom Tires is an idea I could get behind.

Posted by: Seattle Chris at February 20, 2013 04:39 PM (lWTGt)

308 horrific spelling and mismatched grammar here

Take Vulgate Latin and mangle it horrifically, and you get French.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 20, 2013 04:39 PM (EI3K0)

309
"my wife is Sicilian/Spanish and armed
how's that for sacrifice"

What's it like having to sleep in full body armor?

Posted by: Jaws at February 20, 2013 04:39 PM (4I3Uo)

310 Ace - the Passe Compose (sorry no accents on this keyboard) is the easiest past tense to learn. You just have to remember which verb goes with Etre or Avoir in front of it.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:40 PM (GrVRu)

311
I decided the French were pretty stoopid when I was there in about '92 and the govt made everyone use those stoopid yellow headlights. Any fool could tell they were not as good as the clear/white lights.
Turned out a relative of a govt minister owned the yellow light factories.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at February 20, 2013 04:41 PM (Sptt8)

312 From dealing with people who do business in Germany, one of the interesting things is how each town makes a particular item or product and the whole town or most of it works in the same factory.

Like in one town, they are known for making carburetors, so everyone will work at several carburetor plants. Then the next town over there will be one or two main plants that make catalytic converters. A very interesting way of ordering a modern manufacturing society.

Towns known for products. We've got some as well I suppose, but most of that goes with food.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 04:41 PM (tVTLU)

313 301
The last good thing the French did was show up at Yorktown with their fleet.

They didn't do it because they liked us; they did it because they hated the British.


Oh, I know that, and the fuckers were late to boot. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

It still worked out. They also financed a lot of the revolution, that old Ben "I still fucking this girl" Franklin, managed to arrange.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:41 PM (wR+pz)

314
304 As first language is Italian since she was tiny when I got staioned there
she still has a little accent
she needs to stop it before she becomes a teenager

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:42 PM (660FR)

315 Sounds like that CEO has a little bit of General McAuliffe in him. Nuts to you froggie

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 20, 2013 04:42 PM (1Jaio)

316 "Except for the eight weeks of vacation and the 27 public holidays."

Yes, but when they work they *work*, and they take pride in their work. When I was in Germany you could set your watch to the train schedule, and I was amazed at the amount of sheer professionalism I ran into from the lowliest janitor to the director of the company I came to see.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 04:44 PM (1+XRG)

317 315
Sounds like that CEO has a little bit of General McAuliffe in him. Nuts to you froggi


I always love how that quote, "nuts" comes up.

What he said was FUCK YOU. They couldn't print that.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:44 PM (wR+pz)

318 Cripes. Your Google Fu sucks Ace.

BTW it's in today's WSJ and they've been updating it all day long.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 04:44 PM (GGCsk)

319
shit
gotta run, meeting the wife at 1200 for the shooting and being late with the wife while she is hold her .45 is bad

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 20, 2013 04:44 PM (660FR)

320
"Plus they all look so cute in their red, white and blue uniforms"
Thus the entire burka issue - at least in the section of Paris I was in 2 years ago...

Posted by: Jess1 at February 20, 2013 04:44 PM (lbiWb)

321 Towns known for products. We've got some as well I suppose, but most of that goes with food.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 04:41 PM (tVTLU)

Peoria, IL and Caterpillar Tractor

Posted by: Muad'dib - Bringer of Cookies at February 20, 2013 04:44 PM (KjlbF)

322 304I just think it's important to be bilingual.

Serious question: In America, why? Unless I want to press '2' for Espanol it is not of use to me and it doesn't make me smarter.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 04:45 PM (+xmn4)

323 I just think it's important to be bilingual.

This is one of those Better Than You things Ace was posting about earlier this week, right?

Everyone I work and play with speaks American or British. I can kinda fake my way around Canada with hand gestures.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 04:46 PM (/kI1Q)

324 @313

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Sorry.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 20, 2013 04:46 PM (wR+pz)

325 Le français pense que la meilleure partie de la parade du soldat allemand est le trombone rouillé.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 04:46 PM (QupBk)

326

>>>Adorable dancing birds with cute blue feet!

That reminds me. It's that time of year again...


PEEP season!

a.k.a. Easter

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 04:46 PM (xIzGn)

327 They work 35 hours a week? Poor things.
If they had Obamacare, they'd only have to work 28 hours like me.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 20, 2013 04:46 PM (C8mVl)

328 Billy Bob: Exactly. The "Nuts" quote always sucks. The real quote is the best.

Muad'dib: Interesting. But in Germany it's more of product based rather than specific manufacturer.

So for bulldozers, that would be in one town with several competing manufacturers. Fascinating system.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 20, 2013 04:46 PM (tVTLU)

329 There are still a few good Frenchmen left. Most of them are in the military. Or dead.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 04:46 PM (GGCsk)

330
I just think it's important to be bilingual.

All chicks experiment with bilingualism...at least when they are in college, they do.

Posted by: Gillian Anderson at February 20, 2013 04:47 PM (mRzhb)

331 After reading the horrific spelling and mismatched grammar here, I can
somewhat sympathize with the French when they say we butcher their
language. The problem is that we don't start teaching languages early
enough in this country.


But why should we spend the time and effort on teaching French of all things? For that once in a lifetime visit to Paris? In case your plane crashes in Quebec? To impress your date in a French restaurant?

If someone wants to do so voluntarily- great, go for it. As for taking time from more practical and important subjects in school, we do too much of that already.

This isn't Europe where spending a few hours in a car or train transports you to a foreign country that speaks a different language. Spanish would be useful (like it or not) for those in states bordering Mexico, but otherwise? I'd rather kids be taught something more useful.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2013 04:48 PM (SY2Kh)

332
That reminds me. It's that time of year again...


PEEP season!

a.k.a. Easter


I've already eaten one Creme Egg already. It'll soon be time for a dark chocolate Easter bunny.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 04:48 PM (+z4pE)

333 This guy ran for the GOP nomination for President in 1996.

Posted by: General Zod at February 20, 2013 04:49 PM (2+bRt)

334
gawd I hate Peeps. Digusting barely edible tidbits.

Reeses Peanut Butter Eggs????....... game on.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 20, 2013 04:49 PM (nELVU)

335 I honestly don't understand how nations like France even function with decades and decades of this nonsense, but somehow it keeps going on. The entire nation should have starved to death a long time ago.

My biggest fear about the "Let it Burn" philosophy with respect to our current political situation is that we could see generations of this. I think the idea that it's all going to come to a head soon and everything is going to get fixed is probably a naive way of looking at things.

Posted by: McAdams at February 20, 2013 04:49 PM (K5srs)

336 Science is primarily pursued in English.

Good enough for scientists, it's good enough for businesses.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 20, 2013 04:49 PM (xAtAj)

337 France: Our first enemy.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (QupBk)

338 Toby, do the French squaredance?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (+z4pE)

339
>>> Actually, we almost fought a war with the French not that long after the American Revolution. The issue, IIRC, was freedom of the seas, much like the War of 1812

Barely relevant tangential historical reference -- check

What Stage is this, again?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (Y4TdB)

340 Honestly, what's Paris got left? A bunch of museums filled with art from people who have long ago stopped representing French "culture", a bunch of monuments to people who long ago stopped representing French tenacity, a bunch of over-commercialized restaurants filled with mediocre food served by lazy waiters and graves of people, long dead, who were courageous thought leaders and literary geniuses.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (GGCsk)

341 What Stage is this, again?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (Y4TdB)
RINO POS

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (xAtAj)

342 "one thing I distinctly remember about germany (munich, in particular) was dogs and dog poop everywhere -- they were allowed in the stores. "

I didn't see much of that in Munich. My big complaint was the amount of urinating people do in the tunnel entrances to the U-Bahn. As a suburban guy I'm just not used to having my nostrils continually assaulted by the smell of stale urine.

Paris was the same way. Every morning the shopkeepers come out and hose down the entrance to their shop because so many people have been urinating there overnight. For a few hours the entire city smells like a urinal.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (1+XRG)

343 What Stage is this, again?
Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (Y4TdB)


I meant to mention that I object to your stages. Boobs should be at least number 3, if not 2.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 04:51 PM (VtjlW)

344 Toby, do the French squaredance?

Dare I google that?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 04:51 PM (QupBk)

345 Show us on the doll where the mime touched you.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 20, 2013 04:52 PM (mO9O5)

346 "nah just the specialized pro wrestling moves I'd expect from "The Grizz.""

Well, now you've given me flashbacks to when I was a kid and my oldest brother practiced wrestling moves on me after watching Dr. X on low rent tv wrestling.
An armpit was usually involved.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2013 04:52 PM (tAOpG)

347 it's retarded. They seem to have done this because it's marginally easier to remember the other tenses.

Posted by: ace


One of the cool things about Japanese there is no commonly used future tense. "(Tomorrow), he runs" is the same as "He will run tomorrow."

I guess to make up for it adjectives have to be conjugated.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 20, 2013 04:52 PM (Ipj15)

348
>>Reeses Peanut Butter Eggs????....... game on.<<

I ran into a bag of those the other day...unfortunately, for the Resse's, it wasn't in a Rape Free Zone.

Posted by: Michael Moore at February 20, 2013 04:52 PM (mRzhb)

349 Ze balls on zis monsieur.

Posted by: Pierre, 3 hour per day worker at February 20, 2013 04:52 PM (/Mla1)

350 Dare I google that?

-----


.... do I REALLY need to say it????

Posted by: Admiral Akbar at February 20, 2013 04:52 PM (nELVU)

351 Well, I did see "allamand" in your comment above. Ain't that a squaredancin' call?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 04:53 PM (+z4pE)

352 244 >>>I don't understand. What about the gheys? Who cares about all this union stuff, are the tires gay? Can they marry other tires?

you say that, and yet I'm not the one agitating for Daddy Government to tell me what to think about Teh Geyz.
****

I need to respect the mad writing skillz of this blog. I got nothing.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 04:53 PM (QxSug)

353 Isn't It Time We Got Back to Hating the French?

Look who's #1. http://is.gd/OOngqT

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 04:53 PM (QupBk)

354 atataka katta ka?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 20, 2013 04:54 PM (xAtAj)

355 The enemy of my enemy is my enemy

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Sorry.


I liked it the first way better.

50% more enmity.

Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2013 04:55 PM (KXm42)

356 I have to run now, but if I didn't, I would post a much longer reply to those who are asking why it's important to be bilingual. But, there are studies to show that the earlier you learn a language, the better it is for your brain, that you can learn other subjects more easily. I have witnessed this first hand with my daughter. Her entire curriculum is taught in French - math and science as well. She only started mid kindergarden year. She is now practically fluent. Her brain thinks differently. She can understand math when it's taught in French and just as well as when it;s taught in English. Anyway, speaking of French, we need to head to her ballet class. A bientot, toute le monde.

Posted by: Sassy at February 20, 2013 04:55 PM (GrVRu)

357 340 Honestly, what's Paris got left? A bunch of museums filled with art from people who have long ago stopped representing French "culture", a bunch of monuments to people who long ago stopped representing French tenacity, a bunch of over-commercialized restaurants filled with mediocre food served by lazy waiters and graves of people, long dead, who were courageous thought leaders and literary geniuses.
Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 04:50 PM (GGCsk)

-----------------
Hmmm. That gives them a whole lot more than we have.
Except most of our waiters aren't that lazy.....yet.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 20, 2013 04:55 PM (C8mVl)

358 Show us on the doll invisible wall where the mime touched you.
Posted by: Waterhouse


Le fix'd.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 20, 2013 04:55 PM (Ipj15)

359
boobs at Stage 2??

preposterous!

how dare you insult everyone like that

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 04:55 PM (vyPsz)

360 'No Hesitation' Law Enforcement Targets


http://tinyurl.com/b3cgk3q


The series contains seven targets in all, titled Pregnant Woman, Older Man 1, Older Man 2, Older Woman, Young Mother, Young Girl, and Little Brother. Each of the depicted subjects is armed.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 04:56 PM (fWAjv)

361 The Mir have five words for peace, none of which mean what we think it should mean, and two are quite sinister: the removal of a threat.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 04:56 PM (QupBk)

362 oh wait, here it is: NBC and company are the ones normalizing the new ghey america and ostracisizing the former values of this land.

and they determine who gets elected.

It's all stacked against us.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 20, 2013 04:56 PM (QxSug)

363 (o)(o)

Those are eyes. I swear.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 20, 2013 04:56 PM (xAtAj)

364 how dare you insult everyone like that

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 04:55 PM (vyPsz)



Because reasons.

Ha! Taste the logic, bitches!

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 04:57 PM (VtjlW)

365 When visiting the Arc di Triomphe I was the only person who paused and knelt at the Unknown Soldier Monument. Probably the most disrespectful crowd I have ever seen at a military monument.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 04:57 PM (GGCsk)

366 Think of the corn-hole surfers! I ask of you, what of them! They're people too!

Posted by: Liza Minelli, smiter of limp wrists at February 20, 2013 04:57 PM (qM5uD)

367 We're still here?

Okay, great America vs France movie, Bottle Shock. Also, Sideways for the wine lovers amongst us degenerates.

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2013 04:58 PM (0PiQ4)

368 The series contains seven targets in all, titled Pregnant Woman, Older Man 1, Older Man 2, Older Woman, Young Mother, Young Girl, and Little Brother. Each of the depicted subjects is armed. Odd, where are the van-dyke sporting men with shaved legs wielding umbrella drinks and pearl handled automatics? I ask again WHERE ARE THE GHEYS?

Posted by: Liza Minelli, smiter of limp wrists at February 20, 2013 04:59 PM (qM5uD)

369 http://tinyurl.com/b3cgk3q The series contains seven targets in all, titled Pregnant Woman, Older Man 1, Older Man 2, Older Woman, Young Mother, Young Girl, and Little Brother. Each of the depicted subjects is armed.
Honestly, I'm not that bothered by this. Like it or not, if you are training to defend yourself with a weapon you need to be able to do so against any threats. A pregnant woman with a gun can kill you just as quickly as a twenty year old man with a gun.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 20, 2013 04:59 PM (PQgoW)

370

The series contains seven targets in all, titled Pregnant Woman, Older Man 1, Older Man 2, Older Woman, Young Mother, Young Girl, and Little Brother. Each of the depicted subjects is armed.

I brought this up yesterday, I think....someone responded to me that basically, I was full of crap.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at February 20, 2013 05:00 PM (eyJh9)

371 TWI is Titan Wheel ... I worked there for a summer in college ... Taylor ran for president a while back. Tires are different than wheels ... I threw the wheels on the paint line.

http://www.titan-intl.com/wheels

Posted by: Illini Bill at February 20, 2013 05:01 PM (HQuBO)

372 Anyone mention that John Travolta's best movie ever was From Paris With Love?

Serious, though he does not have a long list to choose from.

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 05:04 PM (m2CN7)

373 i(And the letter itself has lapses in grammar, as if written by a non-native speaker.)

Much like the vast majority of responses on this site. The Grizz would be right at home here...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at February 20, 2013 05:04 PM (PMGbu)

374 My interpretation of the general French attitude:
In Rome I was cheated with a smile
In Paris I was cheated with a frown

Posted by: Cheri at February 20, 2013 05:05 PM (G+Wff)

375 When visiting the Arc di Triomphe Surrender?

Fixed.


Why did the Germans plant trees down the Champs-Elysees in WWI?

So their kids could march in the shade in WWII.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 05:05 PM (GFM2b)

376 "Why did the Germans plant trees down the Champs-Elysees in WWI? "

The Germans never made it to Paris in WW I.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 05:08 PM (1+XRG)

377 Dude I spent half the summer in France.There have never been more loafing, uncaring, apathetic moochers in one country.They probably run the worst rail system in Europe, their security is a joke there are thieves just about everywhere and people live handout to handout. They have zero interest in anything resembling work.
Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 03:45 PM (GGCsk)

---
(shifts eyes left, then right)
You don't zay!

Posted by: German Minister of Land Acquisitions at February 20, 2013 05:09 PM (mV8sg)

378 "Or do what we do now. Let them learn our language. The French seem to have plenty of spare time on the job to do that.
Posted by: Whatev"

They have more opportunity to actually use the languages that they learned in school. Going from one country to another in Europe is like going from Michigan to Illinois. They go to another country with a different language for a short holiday the way a Michigander would go to Chicago. Thus they use the languages all the time.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2013 05:09 PM (tAOpG)

379 The Germans never made it to Paris in WW I.

No, but they did in the previous war. Not that your average LIV knows anything about that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Ampersandsaurus at February 20, 2013 05:10 PM (GBXon)

380 I brought this up yesterday, I think....someone responded to me that basically, I was full of crap.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at February 20, 2013 05:00 PM (eyJh9)

They should notify the .gov then. They have 5.5 million in federal contracts.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 05:13 PM (fWAjv)

381 Guy's letter sounds like it was translated To and then From French. It has that.. choppy thing going on with the subject being buried underneath smarmy adjectives and other smug pieces of fucking language.

So yeah, French. Took 2 years of college French when I was 12.

Five years of Spanish.

All I can do is cuss in English and say "crepes" with an accent.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at February 20, 2013 05:15 PM (UzocF)

382 "One of the cool things about Japanese there is no commonly used future tense. "(Tomorrow), he runs" is the same as "He will run tomorrow."

I guess to make up for it adjectives have to be conjugated."

And then there's counting. You have to use different words to count people, long cylindrical things, disk-shaped things, thin things like paper, bound objects, small animals...

How these people became a world power is beyond me.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 20, 2013 05:21 PM (1+XRG)

383 >>>e - the Passe Compose (sorry no accents on this keyboard) is the easiest past tense to learn. You just have to remember which verb goes with Etre or Avoir in front of it.

it's not that easy. The simple past is not all that difficult. The passe compose requires learning just as much irregular radicals as the simple. Plus, there is that noun agreement complication.

I get that the Passe Compose is sort of marginally easier. Whatev's, I guess. Frankly I find the imparfait easier than all of them (one solitary irregular verb, and it's an easy one).

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 05:23 PM (LCRYB)

384 adding...: The passe compose requires learning just as much irregular radicals as the simple.

and of course it's the same group of common verbs.

The situation creates a problem for learners because reading the three musketeers in french, while helpful, is teaching you a bunch of verb tenses you have no need for in speech.

You'd think the best way to learn a language would be to read a book in that language; but the utility of this is diminished in French.

I have basically gotten most of the simple past down (at least I recognize it) so it's not the worst thing in the world. But it is a little unhelpful that the written language departs from the spoken one.



Posted by: ace at February 20, 2013 05:26 PM (LCRYB)

385 I used to work for Goodyear, and have been in the Amiens plant. Doesn't surprise me it's shut down.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at February 20, 2013 05:31 PM (gxCRt)

386 I'm as red-blooded as any other 'Murrican here, but rather than bash the French, I have a wire loom to finish for a customer's Citroen DS.



Posted by: Bill H at February 20, 2013 05:34 PM (3sZO1)

387 OJ turned gay in prison. Lawrence of Arabia was buggered by the Turks and never got over it. Bond? Him I don't know about.

Posted by: Banjo at February 20, 2013 05:41 PM (BzdDN)

388 Oui R L'f*cked

Posted by: The French at February 20, 2013 05:54 PM (ZJW1c)

389 Ace,

Here's a French paper (website) purporting to show an image of the original letter (in English, with company letterhead) and providing a translation:
http://tinyurl.com/ajlag78 (Sorry if this was pointed out to you in an earlier comment.)

Doesn't prove that the letter is real, but if we don't hear a sharp debunking soon from the purported author, then we can start to be more sure.

Amusing: Most of the French-language comments appear to praise the letter.

Posted by: Gromit at February 20, 2013 06:04 PM (4KOF2)

390
"clicking through to the original French site, I wish I could read what the commenters were saying."

All of thecommentors at that siteare basicallysupporting Maurice Taylor, the CEO of Titan Tires. It's a business page, so I suppose that's not entirely unexpected. This particular audience understands economic issues, so they know how the French government is killing jobs. They're criticizing Montebourg and French policies. They agreed with Taylor. Actually I think they rather enjoyed that he told Montebourg off. There appeared to be some relief that someone finally said what they were all thinking.

Posted by: Bets at February 21, 2013 07:59 AM (5sN1L)






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