Yes, They Do Want To Go Door-to-door Confiscating Weapons

Remember this guy?

I spoke to two of the sponsors. One, Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, a lawyer who typically is hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues, said he did not know the bill authorized police searches because he had not read it closely before signing on.

“I made a mistake,” Kline said. “I frankly should have vetted this more closely.”

Well, lookie here. Progressives lie about their true goals. Who knew?

Except that it doesn’t appear to be a mistake at all.

Senator Kline was a sponsor of an assault weapons bill in the 2009-2010 session which contained the EXACT SAME PROVISION. From Bill 6396:

(5) In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing the assault weapon shall do all of the following:

(a) Safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection;

And that's not even the only previous bill he sponsored with nearly the exact same language!

Follow the 'lookie here' link, both for the rest of Blackiswhite's post (short but packed with good stuff), and his awesome photo masthead, which is a hilarious photo he himself captured.

Kline absolutely knew that home searches were mentioned in there, there was no mistake or misunderstanding about that, because that has been his idea all along, for years!

The facility with which these mendacious weasels act all astonished of their own wrongdoing is truly noteworthy.

It goes without saying that you don't need to resort to this kind of theatrical dishonesty when you're doing something popular...or legal.

Thanks to Blackiswhite.

UPDATED with commenty goodness:

39 I just keep thinking that "oops" doesn't make me feel better. I'd rather have a politician who was honest about what he wanted.

"I'm too stupid to notice what I'm proposing" seems worse.

Accidental Fascism and Your Mouth, by Adam Kline.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 20, 2013 10:37 AM (SUKHu)

Posted by: LauraW. at 10:15 AM



Comments

1 I am home-I am armed-and I will protect myself.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:17 AM (wbmaj)

2 LauraW!

-

Posted by: Quasimodo at February 20, 2013 10:18 AM (J8DGo)

3 Liars lie. In other news, water is wet and fire burns.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 20, 2013 10:19 AM (GBXon)

4 'sup, Q

Posted by: lauraw at February 20, 2013 10:19 AM (nr0Tm)

5 He also put it forward in 2005.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 10:20 AM (53z96)

6 Scratch a Liberal, find a Fascist.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:21 AM (bb5+k)

7 I propose that the CO Republican's bill be put forth in WA as well. It shall be a felony punishable by 4 years in jail to sponsor a bill that violates the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 10:21 AM (53z96)

8 Except he violates 2nd and 4th so he gets 8 years in jail.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 10:22 AM (53z96)

9 A lying leftist?

Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 20, 2013 10:22 AM (7IVDJ)

10 Hi Laura. Yep, they want them all from the law abiding. Can you inagine the suburban blood bath if the inner city utes thought we couldn't defend ourselves?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:22 AM (l86i3)

11 Cops have enough time/funding to inspect gun storage?

Posted by: BignJames at February 20, 2013 10:23 AM (Sg0G/)

12 Cops have enough time/funding to inspect gun storage?
Posted by: BignJames at February 20, 2013 10:23 AM (Sg0G/)

I think you forgot about Obamas Civillian force.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:23 AM (l86i3)

13 I think you forgot about Obamas Civillian force.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:23 AM (l86i3)

Moar $timulus!

Posted by: BignJames at February 20, 2013 10:24 AM (Sg0G/)

14 I propose that the CO Republican's bill be put forth
in WA as well. It shall be a felony punishable by 4 years in jail to
sponsor a bill that violates the 2nd amendment.


Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 10:21 AM (53z96)


I like the way you think. I always find myself nodding in agreement with pretty much everything you and a few other people write.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:26 AM (bb5+k)

15 Dims lie, then they lie about their lies and the LSM doesn't even bother.
Someone's going to get hurt.
Just sayin'.

Posted by: Nick Shaw at February 20, 2013 10:26 AM (TRQvI)

16 I propose that the CO Republican's bill be put forth
in WA as well. It shall be a felony punishable by 4 years in jail to
sponsor a bill that violates the 2nd amendment.


Does that include congressmen and senators in washington?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:27 AM (l86i3)

17 I am proud to report that every single county in Western NY (where I live) is now on record as opposed to the NY SAFE Act (aka Cuomo's Gun Grab.) My county legislature just voted unanimously, 14-0 for repeal.

Kudos well-deserved by many, but special thanks to Carl Palladino (remember him?) and radio talk-show host Tom Baurle for their efforts.

MOLON LABE, CUOMO!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 20, 2013 10:27 AM (7ObY1)

18 Cops have enough time/funding to inspect gun storage?

Posted by: BignJames at February 20, 2013 10:23 AM (Sg0G/)



I think you forgot about Obamas Civillian force.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy
Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:23 AM (l86i3)


I was chastised the other day for suggesting that this current regime resembles the Nazis. I can't understand how people don't see the resemblance.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:28 AM (bb5+k)

19 I was chastised the other day for suggesting that this current regime resembles the Nazis. I can't understand how people don't see the resemblance.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:28 AM (bb5+k)


It's exactly like that. They are just moving slower.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:29 AM (l86i3)

20 Dims lie, then they lie about their lies and the LSM doesn't even bother.
Someone's going to get hurt.
Just sayin'.


Posted by: Nick Shaw at February 20, 2013 10:26 AM (TRQvI)



The New York/ Los Angeles Media ARE Democrats, and they do everything of which they can think to help Politician Democrats get away with advancing their agenda.

We must develop our own media weapon.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:30 AM (bb5+k)

21 THE HUMP ON THIS BROAD!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 10:30 AM (qlxPe)

22 It's old.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 10:30 AM (evdj2)

23 Meteor strikes over Seattle, Denver, Boston, New York City, Chicago and DC would solve 90% of our country's problems, don't you think?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 20, 2013 10:30 AM (QXlbZ)

24 Pop Around. Pop Around. Pop up, pop up and pop down!

That's much like "Punch Down".

Posted by: brando at February 20, 2013 10:31 AM (IPGju)

25 More LauraW.

Less DrewM.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 10:32 AM (qlxPe)

26
It's exactly like that. They are just moving slower.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy
Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:29 AM (l86i3)

First it moves slowly, and then with ever growing confidence, suddenly it moves quickly. I believe the scientific term is "Logistic growth."
It is a sort of exponential function.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:32 AM (bb5+k)

27 He's a fascist? Must be a Republican than. Good thing we have those Democrats to protect us...

Posted by: Average uninformed voter at February 20, 2013 10:32 AM (Vk2pI)

28 Looks like it's time to add more firearms to my collection...

Posted by: Emdoc at February 20, 2013 10:32 AM (DhR/C)

29 From the last thread. This sort of mailing template needs to go out to every likely voter the Friday before the next election:

137 "Politician X attended college Y from year N to year M. During that time, there were Z unsolved rape cases in the surrounding area. They remain unsolved even today.

Now he wants to disarm your wives, sisters and daughters, making it easier for predators to commit rape.

Protect your family from the predators who support politician X. Vote for POLITICIAN A."

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 10:32 AM (ZkW0f)

30 Those who have no respect for the inalienable rights of man as delineated in our Constitution ought to have no protection under the law.

As someone said yesterday: We need to constantly repeat the "Democrats want to take your guns--all of your guns. And any who say otherwise are lying."

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 20, 2013 10:32 AM (VjL9S)

31 #18 Gateway Pundit reports member of Obama Civilian Force meets untimely end:
Demetrius Murphy, 15, died Friday morning after he and another teen, Michael Bryant, allegedly tried to break into a man’s home on Tennessee. Police say the homeowner emerged with a gun. Bryant ran, but they say Murphy confronted him and was shot and killed.
From "knock-out game" artiste to burglar, such a bright, bright future. Now gone. All gone.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:33 AM (wbmaj)

32 Meteor strikes over Seattle, Denver, Boston, New
York City, Chicago and DC would solve 90% of our country's problems,
don't you think?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 20, 2013 10:30 AM (QXlbZ)


You left out Los Angeles. The Entertainment media brainwashes the population through the entertainment it creates. It's exactly like computer malware. People tune in for entertainment, but leave with a Liberal viral meme stuck in their brains.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:34 AM (bb5+k)

33 The garden variety mendacious weasel, or Mustela mendicacia, is a bothersome pest that will destroy your home and lands if left unchecked.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 10:34 AM (4df7R)

34 I think you mean 'logarithmic' rather than 'logistic'

Posted by: Vocabulary police at February 20, 2013 10:35 AM (lHb9q)

35 You're here to confiscate my gun? Here, you can have the bullets first.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:35 AM (wbmaj)

36 I am astounded that a politician would lie! What is next, taxes going up?

Posted by: Rumplestiltskin at February 20, 2013 10:35 AM (71LDo)

37 34
I think you mean 'logarithmic' rather than 'logistic'

Posted by: Vocabulary police at February 20, 2013 10:35 AM (lHb9q)

He says everything is exponential. Don't worry, he's on a roll.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 20, 2013 10:36 AM (xAtAj)

38
7 -

Missouri.

And it won't be passing. Even if it did, I can't imagine it surviving a court challenge.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 10:36 AM (TOk1P)

39 I just keep thinking that "oops" doesn't make me feel better. I'd rather have a politician who was honest about what he wanted.

"I'm too stupid to notice what I'm proposing" seems worse.

Accidental Fascism and Your Mouth, by Adam Kline.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 20, 2013 10:37 AM (SUKHu)

40 Cold dead fingers and all that. If they hadn't been lost in a tragic boating accident.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 10:37 AM (UOM48)

41 >>>Cops have enough time/funding to inspect gun storage?

No no no. Firemen will do it. They kind of already do look around for hazardous crap in houoses anyhow. Its a service.

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Traveller's Checks at February 20, 2013 10:37 AM (3ZtZW)

42 It's a negotiating tactic, the guy is a lawyer, right? So if you get some poor schmuck to sign over, off and clear on something you win and the poor schmuck gets the shaft. That's the way it is supposed to be in Darwin's world, right? People have been pulling scams like this since spoken language was invented.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 20, 2013 10:37 AM (S+KCl)

43 Funny how politicians never lie in our favor. Always pushing to the left...

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 10:38 AM (ZkW0f)

44 Pass standard capacity magazine ban

Prosecute those that don't comply

Now they're felons hence 'prohibited' person.


(Any that fall through the cracks can be prosecuted under VAWA with a willing prosecutor)

WIN WIN

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 10:38 AM (fWAjv)

45 So. What should we name the PAC to start pushing the RTFBYMFMF Constitutional Amendment? Shut Up You Lying Weasel Faces would be accurate but perhaps a bit off putting. It should probably be some version of Sunshine Project or something fluffy bunny (baby lambs!).

I do also like the idea of mandatory version tracking to include the names of those who actually provided the language. Oh, sure, sure, the lying crapweasels will lie about it but at least there will be some name attached to it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 10:39 AM (VtjlW)

46
I think you mean 'logarithmic' rather than 'logistic'

Posted by: Vocabulary police at February 20, 2013 10:35 AM (lHb9q)


No, "logistic" is the correct term. In biological computations, growth is limited by a finite population. Were there no limits on the growth potential, it could be logarithmic, but because of the growth limits, any effect must taper off as a larger portion of the population is affected.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/23bhxt

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:39 AM (bb5+k)

47
and here we go...

we already at Stage 5 yet?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 10:39 AM (052zE)

48 I'll be damned. The Obamabots here are beginning to wake up.

Couple of Vox Populis in today's paper complaining how they can barely afford groceries or put gas in their cars, but OMG, Obama just took another vacation and his wife and kiddies jetted off to Aspen.

I guess the idiots didn't pay attention the last four years.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 10:39 AM (UOM48)

49 liars lie. gun-grabbers gotta grab. Obama's gotta lie, grab guns and play golf.

Posted by: Al at February 20, 2013 10:40 AM (V70Uh)

50
The Official AoS 10 Stages of Comment Threads

1. Outrage
2. Historical anectdotes
3. Threats of revolution
4. Boobs
5. More ancient historical references
6. Arguing with trolls
7. Threats of secession
8. Acceptance
9. Foods
10. Boobs

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 10:40 AM (BUcLz)

51 Under Biden's plan, we'll all be allowed to have one shotgun and two shells.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 10:41 AM (UOM48)

52 #50 JOOOOOOOOS!

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:41 AM (wbmaj)

53 We are missing like 6/7 stages of comment threads. Get on it people!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 20, 2013 10:41 AM (xAtAj)

54 @11


You must have forgot that the legislative branches in an effort to thwart the will of the people have created a regulatory administration at every level of government that has wide latitude to implement a wide range of things through "necessary and proper" clauses that have not been stipulated in the texts of the laws.

You have passed a law that says you want police to inspect homes but there is insufficient money for this, so the necessary and proper" clause would stipulate that taxes must be raised in order to fulfill this law.

It's self generating law and enslavement inch-by-inch!


These jackels must be brought to heel!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at February 20, 2013 10:41 AM (RrD4h)

55 The Tea Party mailed tea bags. I wonder how much trouble you could get in for mailing a 9" piece of hemp rope to lawmakers who sponsor anti-constitutional/illegal bills?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 10:42 AM (GFM2b)

56 The gun owning population of Washington should have blown their whistles, run to a call box, peed and puked, shouted heeeyah! and tossed the bastard or claimed an antibiotic resistant strain of the clap. They were about to get raped.

Posted by: Joe Salazar (D) Co at February 20, 2013 10:42 AM (bAGA/)

57 BTW the magazine capacity bill that passed the CO House allows for 15 round magazines

15

I'm not up on rifle mags- is this an odd size?

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 10:42 AM (8sCoq)

58
I guess the idiots didn't pay attention the last four years.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 10:39 AM (UOM4

The media WOULD NOT COVER IT.

Remember when the Media made a big deal about how ostentatious was Republican President's events? Good times, good times!

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:42 AM (bb5+k)

59 36 I am astounded that a politician would lie! What is next, taxes going up?

Posted by: Rumplestiltskin at February 20, 2013 10:35 AM (71LDo)

Dear Subject,

Please refrain from using the outdated 'taxes.' The Dept. of Changing Definitions prefers that you use 'revenue.'

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 10:42 AM (fWAjv)

60 So I really think we need to get a #scratchaprogressivefindatyrant hashtag going on twitter with examples of this sort of thing.

Posted by: mja at February 20, 2013 10:42 AM (6I+f5)

61 Libs are always going on bout the govt in our bedrooms. I wonder if they care about this? /rhetorical

Posted by: Baldy at February 20, 2013 10:43 AM (opS9C)

62 Project: Sunshineis a great name.

Posted by: Truman North at February 20, 2013 10:43 AM (ZkW0f)

63 Good one, Mama AJ. Post updated to reflect the genius of the AOSHQ comments section.

Posted by: lauraw at February 20, 2013 10:43 AM (nr0Tm)

64 2. Historical anecdotes


an attempted gun grab by authorities sparked the War of Independence


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 10:44 AM (8sCoq)

65 "Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, a lawyer who typically is hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues"

No one should have had to have read any farther than those words to realize immediately that malicious intent was afoot.


Posted by: torquewrench at February 20, 2013 10:44 AM (gqT4g)

66 Under Biden's plan, we'll all be allowed to have one shotgun and two shells.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 10:41 AM (UOM4


And when one comrade falls, you must pick up his gun (or shells, depending on which one you have) and continue fighting for the glory of the Motherland!

Posted by: Joe Stalin at February 20, 2013 10:44 AM (bb5+k)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:44 AM (bb5+k)

68 #53 OK. Here is "the complete meander"
Why didn't Oscar's girlfriend just take his plastic legs and laugh like hell as he wobbled all over the house?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:44 AM (wbmaj)

69 If I'm to believe the stuff posted on this blog and in the comments on a regular basis, then if Progressives at the city, county, state, and federal level are willing to visibly trample or plain ignore the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 10th amendments (among a few), why is it so hard to believe that they wouldn't commit massive voter fraud?


(soothsayer, what stage does this comment fall in)

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 10:45 AM (yCvxi)

70 John Shitmiester just On FoxB talking about gas prices and the Keystone Pipeline. He was pretty good up until he started talking about Obama. He says Obama must do something to get this going whether he has to appease the greens with some Climate Change shit or something else.


This is why we are always losing. Piss on this asshole. He's fine if everyone else gets screwed as long as his project gets the go-ahead.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 10:45 AM (53z96)

71 And when one comrade falls, you must pick up his gun (or shells, depending on which one you have) and continue fighting for the glory of the Motherland!
Posted by: Joe Stalin at February 20, 2013 10:44 AM (bb5+k)

Nice "Enemy at the Gates" reference!

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 20, 2013 10:46 AM (YYyqq)

72 The Official AoS 10 Stages of Comment Threads

1. Outrage
2. Historical anectdotes
3. Threats of revolution
4. Boobs
5. More ancient historical references
6. Arguing with trolls
7. Threats of secession
8. Acceptance
9. Foods
10. Boobs


Texas secede!! 1836. February 1, 1861. We good? Good. Secede. While bbq'ing. Y'all are on your own for tits.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 10:47 AM (GFM2b)

73 obAma IS grEAT, ObaMA iz GOOD, let uS THANKHIM for THIS FOodastamps, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!! *SPIT*


(trying to force stage 6)

Posted by: Marry Frogenstein from Battleboro, VT at February 20, 2013 10:47 AM (yCvxi)

74 why is it so hard to believe that they wouldn't commit massive voter fraud?





(soothsayer, what stage does this comment fall in)

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 10:45 AM (yCvxi)


It is my opinion that they do this routinely.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (bb5+k)

75 9. Foods
10. Boobs

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 10:40 AM (BUcLz)

On it.

http://tinyurl.com/akrm7v6

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (fWAjv)

76
No. 5: Did the Spartans need firearms at the battle of Thermometer?

No they did not.

Case Closed.

Posted by: Ancient Historian at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (TOk1P)

77 This is why all GOP politicians should simply state that the Dems want to take away your guns. Don't get bogged down in nuance such as registration, waiting periods, magazine size. Those start to sound like reasonable restrictions to low informatoin voters who only have the mental capacity to focus on one thing. Will I be able to buy or keep my gun.

Keep it simple. And repeat over and over.

Dems want to take away your guns.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (gmeXX)

78 73
obAma IS grEAT, ObaMA iz GOOD, let uS THANKHIM for THIS FOodastamps, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!! *SPIT*





(trying to force stage 6)

Posted by: Marry Frogenstein from Battleboro, VT at February 20, 2013 10:47 AM (yCvxi)

IDIOT.
check.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (xAtAj)

79
This shit ain't funny anymore.

This is going to get people killed. Good people. Innocent people. And for what?

Maybe that's what these fucking totalitarians want. We're just collateral damage in their quest to cement their position in thenewfeudal order. We're just numbers - taxpaying cattle that can be replaced if it serves their "greater good". Fuck them. I wish them great personal misfortune.

"Democrats want to take your guns--all of your guns. And any who say otherwise are lying."

Posted by: Jaws at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (4I3Uo)

80
You're still in the outrage stage, BtW

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (hA+ft)

81 More LauraW. Less DrewM.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 10:32 AM (qlxPe)

Yes, my monkey could take take DrewM's place but isn't good enough to even wax LauraW's hump.

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (m2CN7)

82 Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) last Friday said he plans to introduce legislation that would bring back the military draft and extend it to women for the first time.

Let's flash back to the last time the "draft" came to a vote in the House. Charlie Rangel introduced HR163 (108th session), the `Universal National Service Act of 2003'. Charlie Rangel's bill expressly indicated that the draft would be for .. a retreat.

(b) FORM OF NATIONAL SERVICE- National service under this Act shall be performed either--

(1) as a member of an active or reverse component of the uniformed services; or

(2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and homeland security.No, I didn't misspell "reserve" ... it's in the bill as "reverse" .. in 5 different places. The "twin" bill in the Senate, S 89 (Hollings D-SC), used "reserve" in those 5 different places.

This bill, HR163, actually came to a vote on the floor of the House.
Charlie Rangel voted against his own bill.

Posted by: Jesse Owens at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (e8kgV)

83 Oh, great, now am I going to have to take back all those things I said about LauraW??

Uh, I mean, thanks.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (SUKHu)

84
This is why we are always losing. Piss on this
asshole. He's fine if everyone else gets screwed as long as his project
gets the go-ahead.


Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 10:45 AM (53z96)



Looking the other way on issues of principle just to get what they want in the short term is pretty much how we got into this mess.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (bb5+k)

85 BTW the magazine capacity bill that passed the CO House allows for 15 round magazines
15
I'm not up on rifle mags- is this an odd size?

Yes. 10, 20, 30, & 40 are standard. 60 & 100 are rarer.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (GFM2b)

86 Why didn't Oscar's girlfriend just take his plastic legs and laugh like hell as he wobbled all over the house?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:44 AM (wbmaj)

Cricket bat to the skull tends to cloud someones thought process.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (fWAjv)

87 "It is my opinion that they do this routinely.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (bb5+k)"



Mine too. I know I sound like a sore loser for holding that position, but there was so much evidence in '08 and '10 that I was glad Reps flipped so many statehouses and Govships. I thought for sure one of the things they would tackle is voter fraud.


Looks like I was wrong.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 10:51 AM (yCvxi)

88 This clown's biography reads like the typical 60's radical. What a consummate fuckhead.

http://senatedemocrats.wa.gov/senators/kline/biography.htm


Here's a sample. Oh, btw - when he talks about his "tour of duty" and being a "foot soldier," he ain't talking about being in the military:


...Those two years were actually my second tour of duty in Mississippi. I'd been in that same town, Greenwood, during Freedom Summer, 1964. At the age of 20, I hadn't a lick of sense, and had marched off to fight my generation's battles in the same invincible spirit with which 20-year-olds do most everything. And in 1964, it seemed, everybody was 20 years old, and united in opposition to racial segregation and all its evils. My job in Greenwood was to register voters for the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party, to which all were welcome regardless of race. I was one of a dozen or so volunteers in Greenwood with the Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee, or SNCC.


I was a foot-soldier in our generation's battles, and the experience seems to have set the tone for the rest of my life. Back to college at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, and still in the spirit, I decided to take that year off from study and work in an SDS-sponsored organizing project in East Baltimore's slums. (Remember SDS--Students for a Democratic Society? We were radical, we were belligerent, and sometimes we were self-righteous. But you know something? By and large, we were right.) It was a year well spent for a young man interested in social policy, and the lessons I learned are still with me...



Gah, I need a shower reading this crap. What a dumb fuck.


"Remember SDS--Students for a Democratic Society? We were radical, we were belligerent, and sometimes we were self-righteous. But you know something? By and large, we were right."


In other words, "Shut up, proles. I know what's good for you and you're going to accept it and LIKE it. Don't you dare complain!"


I find it convenient that his wife is a three term Superior Court judge in King's County. How nice.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 10:51 AM (4df7R)

89
Keep it simple. And repeat over and over.



Dems want to take away your guns.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (gmeXX)

I agree. The topic should not even be discussed. To every attempt to discuss it the answer should be "No. It's a right. "



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (bb5+k)

90 My monkey can take your monkey. Because my monkey has a gun.

Don't bring a knife-monkey to a monkey gunfight.

Posted by: lauraw at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (nr0Tm)

91 :::75 9. Foods
10. Boobs

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 10:40 AM (BUcLz)

On it.

http://tinyurl.com/akrm7v6
Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (fWAjv):::

Cake Girl would have been a more appropriate choice, but yeah, okay.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (qlxPe)

92 BTW the magazine capacity bill that passed the CO House allows for 15 round magazines15I'm not up on rifle mags- is this an odd size?
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 10:42 AM (8sCoq)

I believe the .223 mags are 10,20 and 30

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (m2CN7)

93 Yes. 10, 20, 30, & 40 are standard. 60 & 100 are rarer.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM (GFM2b)

Magpul makes a 15 rounder - actually a 20 round capacity with a larger follower. It is for the subjects of Krispy Kreme.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (fWAjv)

94 3. Threats of revolution

I'm gonna revolt!



4. Boobs

http://is.gd/NDbkZd


(not nude but still kinda nsfw-ish)

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (8sCoq)

95 Now that I think about it, having firearms properly stored securely is a good idea, but only if this legislation has in it requirements that burglars, home invaders, and rapists be required to call their intended victims ahead of time and set up an appointment.

Home inspections done by police would then be friendly and we could all enjoy tea and cookies afterwards.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 20, 2013 10:53 AM (S+KCl)

96 If the GOP were smart, the 2014 elections would be all about gun control and nothing else. People won't get up to vote over minimum wage and taxes for the rich and definitely not spending cuts.

But people will vote if they think the government is coming after their guns.

This should be the primary talking point of the 2014 elections. Don't fall for the press who will ask isn't there anything else you can run on. They just want you to stop talking guns. The Dems are doing us a favor, if the GOP is willing to exploit it.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 10:53 AM (gmeXX)

97
Weren't the old m249 drums 250 or 260 rounds? I just looked it up now and it says 200.

I could have sworn...

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 10:54 AM (TOk1P)

98 I thought for sure one of the things they would tackle is voter fraud.





Looks like I was wrong.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 10:51 AM (yCvxi)

Yeah, go figure. Florida and Ohio certainly need some stronger vote fraud protection.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:54 AM (bb5+k)

99 Oops. Magpul doesn't put the larger follower in their mags. That is done by a third party.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 10:54 AM (fWAjv)

100
11. Gun & Ammo talk

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 10:55 AM (Ba6aP)

101 "Keep it simple. And repeat over and over.


Dems want to take away your guns.


Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (gmeXX)"



Exactly.


It puts them on the defensive. They do this shit all the time - repeating even more outrageous claims and we take the bait and try to defend against it "No no no, we're not trying to kill seniors and starve minorities, and here's why..." And then the Dems wait for the explanation, and repeat the accusation with more force and the LIV can only assimilate the catchprase they've heard over and over.


Guess I can't get out of the outrage stage. Someone help me to the Boobies stage please.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 10:55 AM (yCvxi)

102 :::

http://is.gd/NDbkZd


(not nude but still kinda nsfw-ish)
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (8sCoq):::

Got some use out of that one.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (qlxPe)

103 76
No. 5: Did the Spartans need firearms at the battle of Thermometer?

No they did not.

Case Closed.

Posted by: Ancient Historian at February 20, 2013 10:48 AM (TOk1P)


You are clearly confusing the Civil War with the next war, which was World War II.

Obvious sock!!

Posted by: Typical High School Graduate at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (Qxe/p)

104 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (wbmaj)

105 Magpul makes a 15 rounder - actually a 20 round capacity with a larger follower. It is for the subjects of Krispy Kreme.


Did not know that.
I have seen 5 rounders for .223 for hunting. Which, depending on what you are hunting, is useless.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (GFM2b)

106 @96 - The GOP is already caving on gun control (McCain and mag capacity) in exchange for a better table at Martha's Vineyard.

Posted by: Fen at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (tyCD+)

107 >Got some use out of that one.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (qlxPe)


Glad to help.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 10:57 AM (8sCoq)

108 Once entertained thoughts of short barreled rifle in Ca.

One of the provisions, and there are many, are unannounced inspections once a year.

This was usually done at odd times to "catch" the owner doing wrong. Like 2am odd. What could go wrong?

Posted by: nip at February 20, 2013 10:57 AM (11Tdq)

109 A lawyer who didn't read ALL of the proprosed law? I'll bet he billed as if he had.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 20, 2013 10:57 AM (mV8sg)

110 104
If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (wbmaj


Turn it into a theme park. "Barryland" has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 10:57 AM (UOM48)

111
This should be the primary talking point of the
2014 elections. Don't fall for the press who will ask isn't there
anything else you can run on. They just want you to stop talking guns.
The Dems are doing us a favor, if the GOP is willing to exploit it.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 10:53 AM (gmeXX)


Now if only we had some media that would get some Democrat politician (through constant badgering on the issue) to say something stupid about guns, and then make it national headlines for two weeks straight, right before the election, then yeah, that might work.

"Guns" is the Democrat's "Abortion/Rape" issue.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 10:58 AM (bb5+k)

112 Where CAN one get unsolved case statistics for particular localities from back in the 60's? This asshat went to Johns Hopkins in the early 60s, but unfortunately FBI UCR locality data is only available starting in 1985.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 10:58 AM (4df7R)

113 One of the provisions, and there are many, are unannounced inspections once a year. This was usually done at odd times to "catch" the owner doing wrong. Like 2am odd. What could go wrong?
Posted by: nip at February 20, 2013 10:57 AM (11Tdq)
I imagine it would go something like this:
SMASH!
BANG!
BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!!
"Police!"

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 10:59 AM (DrWcr)

114 One of the provisions, and there are many, are unannounced inspections once a year. This was usually done at odd times to "catch" the owner doing wrong. Like 2am odd. What could go wrong?
Posted by: nip at February 20, 2013 10:57 AM (11Tdq)




It's all the fun of SWATting, but with government sanction!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:00 AM (4df7R)

115 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?


Arc Light it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 11:00 AM (GFM2b)

116 Did I do that? Oh in Heavens name (A name I've besmirched over the years and whose God I fail to acknowledge) it must have been an oversight.

It should have stated that lethal force in overcoming the racist, gun-toting, hippie-hating, freedom-loving, tea-baggers was necessary and proper.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 11:00 AM (GGCsk)

117 http://is.gd/NDbkZd (not nude but still kinda nsfw-ish) Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (8sCoq)::: Got some use out of that one.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (qlxPe)

I'm conflicted. I want her to be a dirty dirty girl but I don't want to tarnish the pure girl next storeauroa. What to do what to do?

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 11:00 AM (m2CN7)

118 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (wbmaj)

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Bombing range or training zone for urban warfare.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 20, 2013 11:01 AM (mV8sg)

119
FULL.
AUTOMATIC.
ASSAULT.
LIAR.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 11:01 AM (/gHaE)

120 "Got some use out of that one.


Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (qlxPe)"



Not really sure why she bothered with makeup.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:01 AM (yCvxi)

121 I'll be damned. The Obamabots here are beginning to wake up.

Couple of Vox Populis in today's paper complaining how they can barely afford groceries or put gas in their cars, but OMG, Obama just took another vacation and his wife and kiddies jetted off to Aspen.

I guess the idiots didn't pay attention the last four years.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 10:39 AM (UOM4


They are nto waking up. They will just blame the Republicans, like they've been trained to do...

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 20, 2013 11:01 AM (Vk2pI)

122 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?


Give it to alexthechick and hope she'd let me sleep inside in the winter.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:01 AM (4df7R)

123 ( 0 ) ( 0 )
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don't know how this will turn out with Pixy , spacing and alighnment Burn, but an attempt to lighten your mood..

Posted by: ette at February 20, 2013 11:01 AM (nqBYe)

124 Ok, übergunmorons, been thinking about getting a c&r license to avoid the transfer fees for the platoon-sized armory of Mosins (and Garands when I have the cash) that I want to put together.

Anybody out there have one? The application looks deceptively straight forward.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at February 20, 2013 11:01 AM (iRTO8)

125 damn it.

Posted by: ette at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (nqBYe)

126 After the firearm storage inspection, you gonna check for smoke alarms and fresh batteries too?

Write me up for one-fiftyfive.
Post my face, Wanted Dead or Alive.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (BAS5M)

127 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (wbmaj)


. I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Ellen Ripley at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (bb5+k)

128 It puts them on the defensive. They do this shit all the time - repeating even more outrageous claims and we take the bait and try to defend against it "No no no, we're not trying to kill seniors and starve minorities, and here's why..." And then the Dems wait for the explanation, and repeat the accusation with more force and the LIV can only assimilate the catchprase they've heard over and over

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Yes, what is the old adage, if your explaining your losing. Let's use the liberal playbook on something that has broad public support.

You know what else has broad public support - voter ID. Every state politician should be running on this. It has huge support, because there is simply no reason to oppose voter ID.

These are the issues to run on in most elections. Not spending. Clearly the American people do not care about spending.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (gmeXX)

129 I luv shotguns. Nothing like the sound of that pump action to scare of burglars. Of course you need to get pretty close to put em down. But just that sound man, that will scare off most of those burglars, unless they have an AR15. Hell, we are all gonna die man. What's the big deal if you go a few years early?

Posted by: VP Joe Biden at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (oKH8p)

130
Keep your eyes on NY, that bastion of blue. The opposition to the safe act (I will NOT capitalize that shit) is growing across the state.

I live here, and am seeing it spread . There are those who don't like the manner of enacting, but have no problem with WHAT was enacted. Luckily, they're in the minority, but must be watched.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (SAMxH)

131 It's exactly like that. They are just moving slower. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:29 AM (l86i3)
It's been my experience that when things go bad, they go bad in a hurry. One minute everything's cool, everything's normal, you're buying smokes at the convenience store on your way home, and then the next minute you're out in the parking lot fighting for your life against a pack of crackheads dumb enough to think you have money.

After a few confiscation incidents resulting in injuries or fatalities, events will take on a momentum of their own.

Posted by: troyriser at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (vtiE6)

132 They should raze Detroit and turn it back into farmland.

Then they can form a collective and put all those serfs back to work.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 11:03 AM (GGCsk)

133 The Colorado legislature (and Joey Biden) are all about disarming women. Joey wants them to use a shotgun, because you can aim them better.

I'm trying to think of a mass shooting perpetrated by a female.

I asked my wife if she knew what police did 100 years ago when a woman shot a stalker on the dark streets.

She didn't know.

The answer: The police reloaded her gun.


Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 20, 2013 11:03 AM (Qxe/p)

134 damn it.
Posted by: ette at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (nqBYe)


lol! But a good try, ette! You just need a line or two to push it down past the comment number.

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Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:04 AM (4df7R)

135 Another idea for Detroit. Grab that hipster who was ranting for population control, no roads, no cars, no electricity, etc., etc. and all his pals.

Wall them up in Detroit. Hilarity will ensue.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 11:04 AM (UOM48)

136 The GOP is already caving on gun control (McCain and mag capacity) in exchange for a better table at Martha's Vineyard


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McCain for Sec Def! Get him out of the Senate.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:04 AM (gmeXX)

137 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?

Scrap it out by the pound...

...but they'd have to PAY me to take it first.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 11:04 AM (/gHaE)

138 >Keep your eyes on NY, that bastion of blue. The opposition to the safe
act (I will NOT capitalize that shit) is growing across the state.<

From your mouth to God's ears.

And Skelos, Senate Leader, so-called Republican from Long Island who led the charge should be the first to be removed in a primary. If the Republican Party supports him, I am leaving the party.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 11:05 AM (GGCsk)

139 :;;97
Weren't the old m249 drums 250 or 260 rounds? I just looked it up now and it says 200.

I could have sworn...
Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 10:54 AM (TOk1P):::

The green plastic assault packs are 200 rounds. Fucking pieces of shit. The plastic clip that attached to the lower receiver of the weapon had a habit of snapping off when doing a 3-5 second rush and flopping down, so that the next time you jumped up and ran, you were trailing, and tripping over, a 200 round belt of linked 5.56 with a green box just a-floppin and jumpin at the end of it.

I found a sugar daddy supply sergeant that got me a metal-framed 100-round nylon assault bag that was rock solid. It had a zippered bottom so you could snap another belt on and zip it back up without detaching it or opening the feed tray.

Me likey.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 11:05 AM (qlxPe)

140
@96 - The GOP is already caving on gun control (McCain and mag capacity) in exchange for a better table at Martha's Vineyard.

Posted by: Fen at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (tyCD+)


And this is a very important point. One of the big problems with our guys is that they socialize with these Fascist bastards. I have no doubt that much squishiness comes from not wanting to offend their social circle.

When Tom Coburn and other members of the Oklahoma delegation were first elected, they all rented an apartment together, and they came home from Washington every weekend. They DID NOT SOCIALIZE with that Washington crowd.

I have no doubt that keeping representatives away from that Big Government Washington infections is in the Best interests of the States, and the national government. But how to accomplish this?

Posted by: Ellen Ripley at February 20, 2013 11:05 AM (bb5+k)

141 "Remember SDS--Students for a Democratic Society? We were radical, we were belligerent, and sometimes we were self-righteous. But you know something? By and large, we were right."


In other words, "Shut up, proles. I know what's good for you and you're going to accept it and LIKE it. Don't you dare complain!"

I find it convenient that his wife is a three term Superior Court judge in King's County. How nice.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 10:51 AM (4df7R)


SDS? F**k 'em.

YAF all the way:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Statement

Posted by: The Political Hat, YAFfer at February 20, 2013 11:05 AM (Vk2pI)

142 Detroit has some great old mansions with a lot of great architecture that you can get very cheaply ... you know if you don't mind living in a war zone.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:05 AM (gmeXX)

143 I'm trying to think of a mass shooting perpetrated by a female.

Women are usually more poisoney and stabby than shooty when doing their murders.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (/gHaE)

144 Damned sock.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (bb5+k)

145 so when given the opportunity to search you home for contraband, will they turn it upside down as they do in the tv shows, will you be handcuffed as you are now because of them a suspected criminal,Will they pay for a clean up crew?

if they find a gun will they take the kids as you are now a criminal with an unlawful weapon with children in the home? If you have more than one will you be considered a trafficker?

Posted by: ette at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (nqBYe)

146 They should raze Detroit and turn it back into farmland.
Then they can form a collective and put all those serfs back to work.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 11:03 AM (GGCsk)



Get 'em to farm corn that then gets turned into fuel. Don't let them eat it.

Hell, if they want to be North Korea, I say we give it to them.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (4df7R)

147 I was a foot-soldier in our generation's battles, and the experience
seems to have set the tone for the rest of my life. Back to college at
Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, and still in the spirit, I
decided to take that year off from study and work in an SDS-sponsored
organizing project in East Baltimore's slums. (Remember SDS--Students
for a Democratic Society? We were radical, we were belligerent, and
sometimes we were self-righteous. But you know something? By and large,
we were right.) It was a year well spent for a young man interested in
social policy, and the lessons I learned are still with me...




What a smugly worthless pile of shit. Name me one fucking person in East Baltimore who had benefited from this "by and large we were right" asswipe. "Young man interested in social policy" is shorthand for pie in the sky fuckhead. This ignorant cocksucker needs a severe beatdown. Well done, Seattle; fuck every goddamn one of you.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (XOVEM)

148 DENVER - Colorado Democrats are circling the wagons in defense of Representative Joe Salazar after his controversial comments about rape.

Fueled by conservatives on Twitter, Salazar's comments have gone nationwide overnight.

Last week, arguing against concealed carry on campus, Salazar suggested that women might not be able to tell if they're actually in danger, and if armed, might shoot innocent people.

Salazar issued a qualified apology Monday night to anyone who was offended. Tuesday, he apologized without reservation, saying he was deeply sorry.

Governor John Hickenlooper, a fellow Democrat, issued a one sentence statement saying, "Representative Salazar acknowledged his remarks were inappropriate and he apologized. That's what he needed to do."

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (8sCoq)

149 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?


Make it a Mosaad retiement community.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (l86i3)

150 Note to burglars*:

When homeowner unloads his double barrel out on the porch, you're safe for about 20 minutes.

(that's about how long any idiot would wait to see if Joe Biden's advice worked before reloading)

*this commenter does not condone burglary. Burglary has been known to cause external and internal bleeding and death in this commenter's home. No burglars were used in the making of this comment.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at February 20, 2013 11:07 AM (szREE)

151 "They are nto waking up. They will just blame the Republicans, like they've been trained to do...


Posted by: The Political Hat at February 20, 2013 11:01 AM (Vk2pI)"



I disabused myself of that notion on 11/8/2012 as well.


My faith in the electorate and belief that the MSM is weak has hit rock bottom and started to dig.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:08 AM (yCvxi)

152 I'm trying to think of a mass shooting perpetrated by a female.


Forgotten already. Le sigh.

Posted by: DOCTOR Amy Bishop at February 20, 2013 11:08 AM (BAS5M)

153 I have no doubt that keeping representatives away from that Big
Government Washington infections is in the Best interests of the States,
and the national government. But how to accomplish this?


Congress sits for only 3 months out of the year. You come to town, get your shit done, then go the fuck HOME.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 11:08 AM (/gHaE)

154 The GOP is already caving on gun control (McCain and mag capacity) in exchange for a better table at Martha's Vineyard





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McCain for Sec Def! Get him out of the Senate.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:04 AM (gmeXX)

_____________________
Obama would never appoint him because he'd actually do a good job.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 20, 2013 11:08 AM (HDgX3)

155 That "I Don't Like Mondays" murder is the only female shooter I can ever think of.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2013 11:08 AM (ZshNr)

156 >>>The Tea Party mailed tea bags. I wonder how much trouble you could get in for mailing a 9" piece of hemp rope to lawmakers who sponsor anti-constitutional/illegal bills

Nobody *needs* nine inches of hemp rope to hang a crappy politician

Posted by: Bigby's Cuomo Puppethand at February 20, 2013 11:09 AM (3ZtZW)

157 Tuesday, he apologized without reservation, saying he was deeply sorry.

Have his parents and teachers apologized?

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at February 20, 2013 11:09 AM (szREE)

158 I have no doubt that keeping representatives away from that Big Government Washington infections is in the Best interests of the States, and the national government. But how to accomplish this?


I've been saying for ages that Congress critters should be required to spend AT LEAST 75% of their term in office in their home district. Especially in this day and age, with electronic communication so cheap and fast and ubiquitous, there is NO reason for them to be in DC 24/7/365. None.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:09 AM (4df7R)

159 I have no doubt that keeping representatives away from that Big Government Washington infections is in the Best interests of the States, and the national government. But how to accomplish this?

Have Congress meet by teleconference, each member from their own home district. (Added bonus, it becomes much more difficult to wipe out Congress in a 9/11 style attack!)

...seriously, this is one of those cases where something the Founders couldn't forsee actually can make for an improvement...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 20, 2013 11:09 AM (GBXon)

160 104 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?

Prime waterfront property, midway between Chicago and Toronto, gateway to the U.S. for Canadian trade, no hurricanes or earthquakes, all in all a good place to put a city.

The only thing needed to start a great city is to clean out the people who now reside there. Terrible attitudes, entitlement mentality coupled with union arrogance and exceptionally low intellegence.

Imagine the city that could be built if Detroit was totally evacuated and everything could be done new from the ground up.

Posted by: jwest at February 20, 2013 11:09 AM (ZDsRL)

161
These are the issues to run on in most elections. Not spending. Clearly the American people do not care about spending.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (gmeXX)


I keep mentioning this. The last three words of the 24th amendment "or other tax" was a suicide pill.
Voting SHOULD be restricted to taxpayers.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:10 AM (bb5+k)

162 MWR, morning and no good deed goes unblemished.

sigh

Posted by: ette at February 20, 2013 11:10 AM (nqBYe)

163
I think you forgot about Obama's Civilian force.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book
Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 20, 2013 10:23 AM (l86i3)

Otherwise known as targets.

Posted by: trainer @ LIB at February 20, 2013 11:10 AM (QbdUW)

164 /squints eyes at MWR

Tricksy hobbitses...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 20, 2013 11:10 AM (GBXon)

165 148
DENVER - Colorado Democrats are circling the wagons in defense of
Representative Joe Salazar after his controversial comments about rape.

Fueled by conservatives on Twitter, Salazar's comments have gone nationwide overnight.

Last
week, arguing against concealed carry on campus, Salazar suggested that
women might not be able to tell if they're actually in danger, and if
armed, might shoot innocent people.

Salazar issued a qualified
apology Monday night to anyone who was offended. Tuesday, he apologized
without reservation, saying he was deeply sorry.

Governor John
Hickenlooper, a fellow Democrat, issued a one sentence statement saying,
"Representative Salazar acknowledged his remarks were inappropriate and
he apologized. That's what he needed to do."

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (8sCoq)

______________________
One of the great differences between Dems and Reps. Dems will defend each other no matter what. Reps will throw each other under the bus immediately.

And we wonder why we never win anymore.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 20, 2013 11:10 AM (HDgX3)

166 It's been my experience that when things go bad, they go bad in a hurry. One minute everything's cool, everything's normal, you're buying smokes at the convenience store on your way home, and then the next minute you're out in the parking lot fighting for your life against a pack of crackheads dumb enough to think you have money. After a few confiscation incidents resulting in injuries or fatalities, events will take on a momentum of their own.
Posted by: troyriser at February 20, 2013 11:02 AM (vtiE6)

First thing I thought of after reading your post was Sarajevo. Winter Olympics in 1984. Destroyed, burned out city shortly thereafter.

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 11:11 AM (m2CN7)

167 Otherwise known as targets cannon fodder.

Fixed. It's the Revolutionary Way, don'cha know...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 20, 2013 11:11 AM (GBXon)

168 I'm trying to think of a mass shooting perpetrated by a female.





Forgotten already. Le sigh.



Posted by: DOCTOR Amy Bishop at February 20, 2013 11:08 AM (BAS5M)

Don't You know who I AM!

Posted by: ette at February 20, 2013 11:11 AM (nqBYe)

169 Salazar issued a qualified apology Monday night to
anyone who was offended. Tuesday, he apologized without reservation,
saying he was deeply sorry.

Governor John Hickenlooper, a fellow
Democrat, issued a one sentence statement saying, "Representative
Salazar acknowledged his remarks were inappropriate and he apologized.
That's what he needed to do."

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (8sCoq)


Good luck forcing that turd back up his ass along with the other beandip he shitted out. Fuck him; make him and his ilk own it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 20, 2013 11:11 AM (XOVEM)

170 Imagine the city that could be built if Detroit was totally evacuated and everything could be done new from the ground up.

The Neutron Bomb...Tanned rested and ready.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 11:12 AM (/gHaE)

171 Tricksy hobbitses...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 20, 2013 11:10 AM (GBXon)



What has it got in its pocketses, precious?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:12 AM (4df7R)

172 The only thing needed to start a great city is to clean out the people who now reside there.

...again...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 20, 2013 11:12 AM (GBXon)

173 "Women are usually more poisoney and stabby than shooty when doing their murders.


Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (/gHaE)"



Don't forget garden sheary. It's not murder...it's worse.


*shudder*

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:12 AM (yCvxi)

174 What a smugly worthless pile of shit. Name me one fucking person in East Baltimore who had benefited from this "by and large we were right" asswipe. "Young man interested in social policy" is shorthand for pie in the sky fuckhead. This ignorant cocksucker needs a severe beatdown. Well done, Seattle; fuck every goddamn one of you.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (XOVEM)


Someone needs to punch him in the mouth. Repeatedly. Something that SHOULD have been done at least fifty years ago.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:13 AM (4df7R)

175 Does someone know what the support would be for gun ownership in inner cities?

My reseoning for asking is this. I've long thought that the GOP should find ways to offer their own free stuff, but free stuff that is in conservatives best interest.

What if someone proposed a program to offer free guns (along with free gun safety course) to people who meet certain incentives: no-criminal history, pays taxes, etc. We should encourage more responsible gun ownership.

Now maybe such a program would never work (and maybe it is really a bad idea - I just thought of it), but I think it is something to consider. People like free stuff, so let's give them something that may help us and help society in general.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:13 AM (gmeXX)

176 Tuesday, he apologized without reservation, saying he was deeply sorry.


I'm waiting for really most sincerely dead sorry.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 20, 2013 11:13 AM (BAS5M)

177 but an attempt to lighten your mood..

Mission Accomplished. I laugh at your Pixy-fu.

Posted by: toby928� for TB at February 20, 2013 11:14 AM (QupBk)

178 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?

Well, we do have this idea we call "Delta City"...

Posted by: Omni-Consumer Products at February 20, 2013 11:14 AM (Vk2pI)

179
Get 'em to farm corn that then gets turned into fuel. Don't let them eat it.



Hell, if they want to be North Korea, I say we give it to them.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (4df7R)


As Walter Williams would say:

"I have no problem if people want to be socialists. The problem is when they want to include me in it."


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:14 AM (bb5+k)

180 Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:13 AM (gmeXX)

They have a plan to do that in some Texas communities.

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 11:14 AM (m2CN7)

181 I am enjoying the govt push to make new criminals over nite.

not

Those that were given rights by our founding fathers will now be criminals ..


reminds me of their flop of an opportunistic desires after Palin (targets )

and Benghazi (video) trying to shut un approved speech down

brave new world , indeed.

Posted by: ette at February 20, 2013 11:15 AM (nqBYe)

182
Fueled by conservatives on Twitter, Salazar's comments have gone nationwide overnight.


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:06 AM (8sCoq)


It is a testament to how weak we are that our most effective method of spreading a meme is to go on "twitter." Had we one single big media gun, we could just broadcast it over and over again on the Television.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:16 AM (bb5+k)

183 What if someone proposed a program to offer free guns (along with free gun safety course) to people who meet certain incentives: no-criminal history, pays taxes, etc. We should encourage more responsible gun ownership.

The immediate problem I see with actually giving away free guns is that it makes the recipients instant targets for their criminal neighbors who want a stolen piece to go commit mayhem. But I would absolutely support providing free gun safety and practice programs, with perhaps some kind of voucher or discount for a firearm purchase. That way you leave it to the individual to decide if he or she wants the responsibility of being a gun owner, and you give them the training and access that let's them know if they'd be a good one.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:16 AM (4df7R)

184 @ 138


Don't look for Skelos to be leaving anytime soon. He's a reliable party hack.

To my knowledge, there isn't anyone on the horizon with name recognition that can effectively challenge here.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2013 11:16 AM (SAMxH)

185 Mission Accomplished. I laugh at your Pixy-fu.

Posted by: toby928� for TB at February 20, 2013 11:14 AM (QupBk)

Toby,
sniffit looked as a somewhat a respectable attempt before sending into the world!

Posted by: ette at February 20, 2013 11:16 AM (nqBYe)

186 "Well, we do have this idea we call "Delta City"..."

Actually, the Belle Isle plan for gated community only needs to be expanded.

Take it full on 180 degrees and make it a gated city.

Posted by: jwest at February 20, 2013 11:17 AM (ZDsRL)

187 Well Polynikes, its a good idea. To me it is similar to Bush's concept of an ownership society.Let's try to provide proper incentives for the free stuff we are giving away anyway.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:17 AM (gmeXX)

188
The coach had put together the perfect team for the Detroit Lions. The only thing that was missing was a good quarterback. He had scouted all the colleges and even the Canadian and European Leagues, but he couldn't find a ringer who could ensure a Super Bowl win.
Then one night while watching CNN he saw a war-zone scene in Afghanistan . In one corner of the background, he spotted a young Afghan Muslim soldier with a truly incredible arm. He threw a hand-grenade straight into a 15th story window 100 yards away.
KABOOM!
He threw another hand-grenade 75 yards away, right into a chimney.
KA-BLOOEY!
Then he threw another at a passing car going 90 mph.
BULLS-EYE!
"I've got to get this guy!" Coach said to himself. "He has the perfect arm!"
So, he brings him to the States and teaches him the great game of football. And the Bears go on to win the Super Bowl.
The young Afghan is hailed as the great hero of football, and when the coach asks him what he wants, all the young man wants is to call his mother.
"Mom," he says into the phone, "I just won the Super Bowl!"
"I don't want to talk to you, the old Muslim woman says."You are not my son!"
"I don't think you understand, Mother," the young man pleads. "I've won the greatest sporting event in the world. I'm here among thousands of my adoring fans."
"No! Let me tell you!" his mother retorts. "At this very moment, there are gunshots all around us. The neighborhood is a pile of rubble. Your two brothers were beaten within an inch of their lives last week, and I have to keep your sister in the house so she doesn't get raped!" The old lady pauses, and then tearfully says,
"I will never forgive you for making us move toDetroit !!!!

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 11:17 AM (m2CN7)

189 Don't forget garden sheary. It's not murder...it's worse.





*shudder*

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:12 AM (yCvxi)
or an ax,

Diabolical laughter

Posted by: lizzie bordon at February 20, 2013 11:17 AM (nqBYe)

190
I disabused myself of that notion on 11/8/2012 as well.





My faith in the electorate and belief that the MSM is weak has hit rock bottom and started to dig.



Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:08 AM (yCvxi)


It was an eyeopener for me as well. I am now convinced that it is nigh unto impossible to correct national problems short of massive upheaval.

I see a lot of (could have been prevented) death coming in the future.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:18 AM (bb5+k)

191 The immediate problem I see with actually giving away free guns is that it makes the recipients instant targets for their criminal neighbors who want a stolen piece to go commit mayhem.

---

And I'm sure some the press will decide we have an absolute right to know who those people would be.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:18 AM (gmeXX)

192 FoxB has some real idiots on today. The last one was actually a former seal who now works with companies for cyber security. He said computer security against the Chinese Army hackers should include government action and company action to prevent their hacking.


There has actually been a court case for this kind of shit. When they were trying to start the building of Turkey Point (South FL) the intervenors sued and tried to stop it based on proximity to Cuba who could target it with their air force or invasion. They wanted the plant security to be configured to repel this type of invasion by Cuba. Which of course was impossible give the laws in effect (and still in effect) and the cost.


The case went all the way to the Supremes (IIRC) who ruled that the regulation required protection from local and roving civilian threats. Invasions by foreign forces were the responsibility of the Federal Government. (provide for the common defense)


In this case companies should be responsible for protected the US from cyber attack for China. The companies should be responsible for protecting from the loser in mom's basement who, when not posting here, tries to send out viruses and hack sites for the fun of it.


But as I said this morning, the most you can expect out of the Obamanites is a letter, and probably not even strongly worded.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 11:19 AM (53z96)

193
Congress sits for only 3 months out of the year. You come to town, get your shit done, then go the fuck HOME.


Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 11:08 AM (/gHaE)


How can we make them? I really think they need to be kept out of Washington.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:19 AM (bb5+k)

194 >That "I Don't Like Mondays" murder is the only female shooter I can ever


>serial killer Aileen Wuornos

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:19 AM (8sCoq)

195 Added bonus, it becomes much more difficult to wipe out Congress in a 9/11 style attack!)

on 2nd thought?

Posted by: DaveA at February 20, 2013 11:20 AM (6YLIm)

196 "Cops have enough time/funding to inspect gun storage? "

Sure they do. (1) Pull them off actual crime fighting duty and emphasize gun inspection instead. (2) Pay overtime to existing cops and hire more, coupled with a tax increase on the rich (redefine "rich" downward as needed) to pay for it. Tighter regulation and control of law abiding citizens is of much higher priority than spending time dealing with predators.

Posted by: RM at February 20, 2013 11:21 AM (/Frlf)

197 >If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?


Well first, I'd call Dick Jones and set up a meeting

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:21 AM (8sCoq)

198 No, "logistic" is the correct term. In biological computations, growth is limited by a finite population. Were there no limits on the growth potential, it could be logarithmic, but because of the growth limits, any effect must taper off as a larger portion of the population is affected.

Actually, logistic growth can be thought of as exponential growth in a finite space. It's exponential as long as the space is not a factor. When it is, the growth converges rapidly to the maximum possible value.

It's a simple model based on a simple differential equation.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 11:22 AM (T0NGe)

199 Magpul makes a 15 rounder - actually a 20 round capacity with a larger follower. It is for the subjects of Krispy Kreme.Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 10:52 AM (fWAjv)

Out of Stock

Posted by: trainer @ LIB at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (QbdUW)

200 so i assume the govt will pay for judo,karate lessons and pee on command lessons, plus where to put a ball point pen lessons..
hell they pay for womb protection against intruders ?


lets say a woman tried judo but it doesn't protect her will the govt now be responsible ?

yeah i'm being silly.

still who in the hell are they to say what you cannot do to protect yourself?

Posted by: lizzie bordon at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (nqBYe)

201 Had we one single big media gun, we could just broadcast it over and over again on the Television.





Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:16 AM (bb5+k)


I think I read that Megyn Kelly is the only MFM person that's brought this up at all.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (XOVEM)

202 It is a testament to how weak we are that our most effective method of spreading a meme is to go on "twitter." Had we one single big media gun, we could just broadcast it over and over again on the Television.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:16 AM (bb5+k)


Honestly, I think the Twitter mention in that article -- and most articles -- is a slam designed to make the criticism seem silly. "Old folks"think of social networking as that thing the teenagers do, while your average Twitter user uses it primarily to shoot the shit with friends, not as a serious mode of communication. So they dismiss the criticism simply because the MFM mentioned Twitter.


All that story had to say was "fueled by conservativeoutrage," or, "fueled by conservative protests both online and at home." There was no need to mention Twitter. It takes what is a very powerful tool for communication and turns it into a childish game. It's insulting when MFM outlets do it. Twitter may have helped the story go national, but it was individuals who heard the comments and who shared those comments who knew that it was newsworthy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (4df7R)

203 Couple of Vox Populis in today's paper complaining
how they can barely afford groceries or put gas in their cars, but OMG,
Obama just took another vacation and his wife and kiddies jetted off to
Aspen. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 10:39 AM (UOM4

Yes, last night on Tulsa's local news, which is becoming more Liberal everyday, they had a married couple, both of whom managed a Carl's Jr fast food restaurant and they were telling their tale of woe. The person who owns the 29 franchises fired them because he needs to get his business down to part-timers or start forking over $750,000 for mandatory coverage of his full time folks. They were outraged over their fate, but, it is simple business economics. They have been running similar stories about Taco Bell franchise owners and Wendy's. So what do they expect someone who has managed to build up ownership in businesses to do?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (kXoT0)

204 Have Congress meet by teleconference, each member from their own home district. (Added bonus, it becomes much more difficult to wipe out Congress in a 9/11 style attack!)



...seriously, this is one of those cases where something the Founders couldn't forsee actually can make for an improvement...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 20, 2013 11:09 AM (GBXon)

It is a great idea, but very unlikely to happen. Anything which limits the influence of lobbysts and actually curbs abuses will be opposed by an army of people who use that influence.

I don't think we can get there from here.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (bb5+k)

205 Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 11:17 AM (m2CN7)


Nice! Though in the middle it says "Bears" when I think it should have been "Lions".

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:24 AM (yCvxi)

206 194 >That "I Don't Like Mondays" murder is the only female shooter I can ever


>serial killer Aileen Wuornos

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:19 AM (8sCoq)


Weren't those "single victims" over a year-long time period?
Also, the doctor tenure nutcase, IIRC, used a pistol.

To qualify as a candidate, I think you need to use an "assault rifle".

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 20, 2013 11:24 AM (Qxe/p)

207 The immediate problem I see with actually giving away free guns is that it makes the recipients instant targets for their criminal neighbors who want a stolen piece to go commit mayhem.
---
And I'm sure some the press will decide we have an absolute right to know who those people would be.


Since the insurmountable problem would be liability for giving out a "free" gun, we should Alinsky the left & those providers of free shit.

Use a Free Shit phone to facilitate a drug deal in which someone is hurt or killed, sue the provider & manufacturer.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 11:25 AM (GFM2b)

208 Yup, Wournos. Not going to watch the creepy video, despite the urge.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2013 11:25 AM (ZshNr)

209 One of the great differences between Dems and Reps.
Dems will defend each other no matter what. Reps will throw each other
under the bus immediately.

And we wonder why we never win anymore.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 20, 2013 11:10 AM (HDgX3)


We have integrity. In this game, that's a liability.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:25 AM (bb5+k)

210 I thought Wournos shot up a schoolyard. Off to Wikipedia I go.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2013 11:25 AM (ZshNr)

211 >still who in the hell are they to say what you cannot do to protect yourself?


Posted by: lizzie bordon at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (nqBYe)

They know what's best for us, or something

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:26 AM (8sCoq)

212 "Cops have enough time/funding to inspect gun storage? "


They will when there is a bounty on every gun seized. Old Barney Fife will put the bullet in his gun and show up to take yours. It really is just that simple.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 20, 2013 11:26 AM (kXoT0)

213
>If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?


Well first, I'd call Dick Jones and set up a meeting


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:21 AM (8sCoq)


Robocop was such a prescient movie.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 20, 2013 11:26 AM (XOVEM)

214 Shit, it wasn't Wournos. It was...."Brenda Ann Spencer (born April 3, 1962) is an American woman who has been convicted of committing two murders; she is serving an indefinite imprisonment sentence in the California prison system. In 1979 when she was aged 16, Spencer shot dead two adults, and wounded eight children and a policeman at a school."

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2013 11:26 AM (ZshNr)

215 104 If you bought Detroit, what would you do with it?
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (wbmaj)


1. Bulldoze everything.

2. Sell off anything worth something to somebody.

3. Make a mountain with the remaining rubble.

4. Set up a ski lodge.

5. Profit.

(Oh, the former residents? Serfs on my baronial lands.)

Posted by: joncelli at February 20, 2013 11:26 AM (RD7QR)

216 >I thought Wournos shot up a schoolyard. Off to Wikipedia I go.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2013 11:25 AM (ZshNr)


She was a prostitute who killed 7 men in 2 years. Claimed self-defense. Florida gave her the needle in 2002.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:27 AM (8sCoq)

217
Maybe that's what these fucking totalitarians want. We're just
collateral damage in their quest to cement their position in
the new feudal order. We're just numbers - taxpaying cattle that can be
replaced if it serves their "greater good". Fuck them. I wish them great
personal misfortune.

"Democrats want to take your guns--all of your guns. And any who say otherwise are lying."
===========
Did any of you read that "What I saw at the coup" thing? Where the "fictional" White House figured they could wipe out all opposition by decapitating (literally) some 2,000 of the thought leaders on the right?

I think the real numbers being run behind the scenes by these progressives is around a 1,000 to 10,000 times that. Very matter-of-factually discussed.

Remember their hero: "A single death is a tragedy, a million a statistic."

Remember the mentor to their current leader jawboned in bull sessions about the necessary elimination of some 25% of the population?

We are not dealing with people who consider themselves Americans first.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 20, 2013 11:27 AM (VjL9S)

218 What if someone proposed a program to offer free
guns (along with free gun safety course) to people who meet certain
incentives: no-criminal history, pays taxes, etc. We should encourage
more responsible gun ownership.



Now maybe such a program would never work (and maybe it is really a
bad idea - I just thought of it), but I think it is something to
consider. People like free stuff, so let's give them something that may
help us and help society in general.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 11:13 AM (gmeXX)



If you are suggesting a government program, we would be attempting to use the tools of the dark side. Bad things will come of it.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:28 AM (bb5+k)

219 "fueled by conservativeoutrage,"


That should be damning to the left considering that they're the bulwark of women's defense, but it's not.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:29 AM (yCvxi)

220
Actually, logistic growth can be thought of as
exponential growth in a finite space. It's exponential as long as the
space is not a factor. When it is, the growth converges rapidly to the
maximum possible value.



It's a simple model based on a simple differential equation.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 11:22 AM (T0NGe)


I use the term all the time in the various discussions I have with drug legalization supporters. I always characterize drugs as an infection that spreads through the population according to a logistical growth model, same as other infectious diseases.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:32 AM (bb5+k)

221 The thing about Liberals is that they like to PRETEND they are Pro-woman by backing one big issue--abortion. The rest of what early feminism wanted-fugedaboudit--equal pay, better child care for working mothers, and so on and so forth--nope, that would cost actual money. Given women abortion rights, which they or the man involved pay for themselves--that's the ticket. Plus, it gives the people who make all that money off providing abortions filthy rich so they have money to burn for political contributions. It is a win-win.

But, equal pay for equal work, making women safe from violence and rape, and so on--that is a lose-lose for them. So, they are single issue and what a nasty, creepy fait accompli it is--Mothers murdering their children as a Civil Right.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 20, 2013 11:33 AM (kXoT0)

222 15 round magazines?

You young whippersnappers! 15 round magazines were standard issue for the M-1 carbine, which was assigned to troops in WWII along with the heavier and more powerful M-1 garand. They were steel not this magpul plastic crap they sell you young fellers.

They may have done that to get buy in to their stupid gun grabbing, because alot of military surplus collectors collect the M-1 Carbine.

It isn't going to work. We still like to use the 30 round banana mags with those.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at February 20, 2013 11:33 AM (cCxiu)

223 First thing I thought of after reading your post was Sarajevo. Winter Olympics in 1984. Destroyed, burned out city shortly thereafter.

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 11:11 AM (m2CN7)


Wasn't so hot a place when I stopped by there, either.

Posted by: Archduke Franz Ferdinand at February 20, 2013 11:33 AM (zF6Iw)

224 Women generally don't shoot you because it's too quick of a death.

And not painful enough.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 11:33 AM (GGCsk)

225 I think I read that Megyn Kelly is the only MFM person that's brought this up at all.


Posted by: Captain Hate at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (XOVEM)

And therein lies an example of our prime difficulty. The people who actually inform the American people on issues which are necessary for them to vote responsibly, are almost uniformly Leftist Democrat Union Members from New York and Los Angeles.
We ONLY lose because of these people. Without their intentional sabotage of our message and our candidates, the Democrats could not win an election.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:35 AM (bb5+k)

226
All that story had to say was "fueled by
conservativeoutrage," or, "fueled by conservative protests both online
and at home." There was no need to mention Twitter. It takes what is a
very powerful tool for communication and turns it into a childish game.
It's insulting when MFM outlets do it. Twitter may have helped the story
go national, but it was individuals who heard the comments and who
shared those comments who knew that it was newsworthy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (4df7R)

There intention is to damage any effort on our part to work around them. Mockery is one of their most effective tools. We need to turn the tables. They are so much more mockable.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:37 AM (bb5+k)

227 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 20, 2013 11:23 AM (kXoT0)


Are you a member of "Ace of Spades" Yahoo user group?


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:39 AM (bb5+k)

228
We are not dealing with people who consider themselves Americans first.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 20, 2013 11:27 AM (VjL9S)


Fair enough. I don't consider them Americans either.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 20, 2013 11:42 AM (bb5+k)

229 The topic of how conservatives are way behind when it comes to getting the message out and losing the media fight.
Wouldn't developing a simple information operations campaign around a topic that appeals emotionally, someone mentioned gun-grabbing, be a great project for some go-getters from a university young conservatives club? If I knew some college age kids I'd suggest that. Don't know any.

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 20, 2013 11:47 AM (ngjEQ)

230 We always find out that 'a staffer' wrote the bill or 'a staffer' read the bill tothe congressmanand left that part out. Why in the name of Hell's Sock Drawer are we votingfor Congressmen? We should be voting on these damn STAFFERS!!!!

Posted by: Dwayne the canoe guy at February 20, 2013 11:52 AM (2EmS8)

231 "Female Mass Murderers: Major Cases and Motives" (trutv.com crimelibrary)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/aollkcf

Interesting collection, there.

Posted by: mrp at February 20, 2013 11:52 AM (HjPtV)

232 For decades, I watched the creeping Big Brotherism of the War on Some Substances, and decried that supposedly conservative Constitutionalists supported modern Prohibition while gulping beer and toking stogies, while the loonies were all pro-pot. Even Mark Levin can be an idiot on this issue. That's just bass-jackwards. Oh, goodness! Now the same incremental, illogical, tyrannical methods are being used to criminalize guns. WHAT a surprise. WHAT a shock! HOW did government GET so intrusive? First, we let them come for the potheads....

Extended rant from Jul/2011 linked in nic, if you need more.

Posted by: mindful breaks the mold today at February 20, 2013 11:52 AM (fWgl8)

233 79
This shit ain't funny anymore.

This is going to get people killed. Good people. Innocent people. And for what?

Maybe that's what these fucking totalitarians want. We're just collateral damage in their quest to cement their position in thenewfeudal order. We're just numbers - taxpaying cattle that can be replaced if it serves their "greater good". Fuck them. I wish them great personal misfortune.

"Democrats want to take your guns--all of your guns. And any who say otherwise are lying."

Posted by: Jaws at February 20, 2013 10:49 AM


I hear you and you are right. I just don't know what to do anymore except to look out for myself and the few left who are dear to me. I'm part of the crowd that moved Heaven and Earth to get new blood in DC back in 2010. They sold us out. I voted in two special elections here and the big one last year. We lost. Beats me what to do except go Galt as far as I can.

Posted by: backhoe at February 20, 2013 11:56 AM (ULH4o)

234
Of course they want to confiscate our guns.

Why else would they put that thing in O-care to make Doctors ask:
"Do you have guns in your home?"

When did they do that? ....Four years ago.
They've been planning this all along!

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2013 12:15 PM (DZbQ0)

235 140


@96 - The GOP is already caving on gun control (McCain and mag capacity) in exchange for a better table at Martha's Vineyard.



Posted by: Fen at February 20, 2013 10:56 AM (tyCD+)

And
this is a very important point. One of the big problems with our guys
is that they socialize with these Fascist bastards.
Posted by: Ellen Ripley at February 20, 2013 11:05 AM (bb5+k)





Crazy-arse idea for the Party of Stupid. Use those funds to build/support a conservative enclave withing DC. It's full of elegant mansions, 24/7 cocktail parties, court pages/bards, buffets with General Tso's chicken, the whole 9 yards.

Then, the GOP folks get to be part of the in-crowd but can still(?) vote the way they campaigned.

Think of it as a theme park for conservative politicians.

o.O

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 20, 2013 12:49 PM (X/+QT)

236 He introduced the same language in 2005. Bastard doesn't even have the courage of his convictions to say "Hell yeah, I put that in there, I think it's time for the 2nd Amendment to go!"

http://tinyurl.com/b9znxge

Posted by: Jprs at February 20, 2013 12:55 PM (YQ4mh)

237

I own a firearm. MOLON LABE, mutherfuckers.



Posted by: sfcmac at February 20, 2013 01:17 PM (TLbgU)

238 Meanwhile, those who have twitter accounts, I've been attacking Adam Kline. I've resurrected the #AdamKline hashtag and fired off a tweet to @WASenDemocrats under #gunrights #gunconfiscation

Posted by: Kaitian at February 20, 2013 01:26 PM (l/ZGK)

239 They can search, but the FBI is a bunch of brain dead lawyers. They could not find Whitey Bulger for 16 years and he was not even hiding.

Posted by: burt at February 20, 2013 06:26 PM (/QJXp)

240 I know of Adam Kline personally. When I worked in the Legislature, we butted heads on many issues.

He's an asshole of the highest order.

Posted by: bea arthur's dick at February 20, 2013 10:51 PM (dM1NM)

241 It will be a said day if they do start confiscating weapons.... Sad, sad, day. And we will be the ones that let it get to this.

Posted by: Thomas Ballantyne at March 06, 2013 08:45 PM (5kdUM)






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