Good News: If a Planet-Killing Asteroid Doesn't Get Us, a Subatomic Viral Universe Will

I don't understand the science here but if I understand this right (and I probably don't), the Higgs-Boson, which imparts mass to particles (it's believed), could impart mass to completely different particles. This would in turn create a different "universe" with a different set of rules, which could then infect our own (like a virus) and wipe us all out.

Rather like subatomic Ice-IX.

This idea of mass transference suggests that the universe is not completely stable -- it's actually in a "metastable" state.

"If you use all the physics that we know now, and we do what we think is a straightforward calculation, it's bad news," Lykken said, according to NBC. "The universe wants to be in a different state, so eventually to realize that, a little bubble of what you might think of as an alternate universe will appear somewhere, and it will spread out and destroy us."

To be honest, I'm totally guessing on this "Viral Propagation" notion, but the article is way to thin and way too 100,000 foot view for me to do more than guess.

The good news is, that's more than "tens of billions of years off" ... probably.

The bad news is, the emperor of this viral new universe is also Barack Obama, and he's got a plan to insure the everyone in the Thousand Galaxies that he'd like to talk to you about. Turns out, you get to keep your doctor. Now how 'bout that.

Incidentally, you should also fear extremely high velocity cosmic rays.

On October 15, 1991, a high-energy proton from deep space struck Earth's upper atmosphere. Known as the "Oh My God Particle", this proton was by far the highest energy cosmic ray ever seen. This one proton's energy was equivalent to a regulation soccer ball traveling at 15 meters per second (34 miles per hour). In the two decades following, observers spotted several similarly energetic cosmic rays, which left a big question: what was accelerating these protons to higher speeds than anything we can achieve in on Earth?

They think they've proven what they'd hypothesized -- the shockwaves from supernovas (massive stars collapsing and then blowing out their outer layers) sends shockwaves out into the ether (I know there's no ether, shut up) and accelerates hydrogen atoms floating around in interstellar gas.

I don't understand how there are shockwaves in a vacuum but I think what they mean is that the ejected shell of the star becomes the very medium of the "shockwave" and this causes a shock-front when it hits something else (like interstellar gas).

But what I really think is that science is not my strong suit and one of the Commenter-Astronomers will have to sort this out for you below.

via @johnekdahl

Posted by: Ace at 11:43 AM



Comments

1 First!

Posted by: ALH at February 20, 2013 11:45 AM (yAPdC)

2 SMOD, you are now my bitch.

But first, you will blow me!

Posted by: Higgs Boson Particle of Death at February 20, 2013 11:46 AM (GQ8sn)

3 This is why I plan on retiring to a single wide trailer at the lake. It's not much of a plan, I know, but it's all I've got.

Posted by: ALH at February 20, 2013 11:47 AM (yAPdC)

4 The universe wants to be in a different state

Fine. Let it burn.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2013 11:47 AM (zoehZ)

5 No Frakking in space!

Posted by: cajun carrot at February 20, 2013 11:48 AM (UZQM8)

6 The Higgs-Boson has always been one of these thing they like to talk about for random popping in and out of the universe. some kind of magic quantam mechanics.


I have always figured that was bullshit.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 11:48 AM (53z96)

7 WE'RE ALL GONNA DIIIIIE..!!!1!

Posted by: hack at February 20, 2013 11:48 AM (zAZNI)

8 This makes me think of Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle and the Ice Nine.

Posted by: Ben at February 20, 2013 11:48 AM (C2Y4l)

9
I'm good with this, should it happen.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 20, 2013 11:49 AM (LPRBM)

10 which could then infect our own (like a virus) and wipe us all out.

***

So there is hope even though SMOD missed us?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2013 11:50 AM (XUKZU)

11 "The universe wants to be in a different state, so eventually to realize
that, it will move to Texas."

Posted by: JSchuler at February 20, 2013 11:50 AM (SmZQt)

12 "...what was accelerating these protons to higher speeds than anything we can achieve in on Earth?"

Fleeing from the Obamaverse?

Posted by: Mad Analyst at February 20, 2013 11:50 AM (hZ4ZR)

13 Everyone should go watch Knowing. Then your mind will be right for studying this phenomena.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 11:50 AM (53z96)

14 This reminds me of the alternate ending to "Supernova".

In the film, a deep space rescue team finds an object of alien origin that seems to cause side effects when it comes into contact with the crew: they turn younger. The alien object is later discovered to be in fact, an alien bomb purposely designed to be found by advanced civilizations, taken back to their home planet for study, and then detonated. The nature of the alien bomb is a "reset button", re-creating the big bang where old matter is recycled back into new matter, i.e. entropy is reversed or reset.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 11:50 AM (GQ8sn)

15 I plan on giving the missus the 'Oh My God Particle' very shortly.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 20, 2013 11:50 AM (BrQrN)

16
I saw today's top rated YouTube of two 10 year old girls fighting.

Not just fighting. But being egged on by "adults".

So I am pretty sure before a virus or asteroid gets us. Stupidity will.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 11:51 AM (GGCsk)

17 What does it matter, SMOD or random universe! - Sir Hillary

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 11:51 AM (d6m30)

18 What does it matter, SMOD or random universe! - Sir Hillary

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 11:51 AM (d6m30)

19 a little bubble of what you might think of as an alternate universe will appear somewhere, and it will spread out and destroy us.

In other words, last November.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 20, 2013 11:51 AM (GBXon)

20 Dear Lord, CAC has infected Ace!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 11:52 AM (da5Wo)

21 SMOD was a such a huge cocktease...it's nice to see we have some other options.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 20, 2013 11:52 AM (BrQrN)

22 >The bad news is, the emperor of this viral new universe is also Barack
Obama, and he's got a plan to insure the everyone in the Thousand
Galaxies that he'd like to talk to you about. Turns out, you get to
keep your doctor. Now how 'bout that.<

Actually, that leads me to wonder; if I help settle Mars, can I avoid complying with Obamacare?

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 11:53 AM (GGCsk)

23
Hmmm, reading between the (viral) lines, what I'm seeing is Zombie Apocalypse.

It's got to start somehow, this is as good an explanation as any I've seen.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 11:53 AM (TOk1P)

24 Everyone should go watch Knowing. Then your mind will be right for studying this phenomena.


Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 11:50 AM (53z96)

Yeah I love movies with happy endings.
On this, it seems to me like one more thing the scientific community will be looking for funding to "defend" us from.

Posted by: Methos at February 20, 2013 11:53 AM (hO9ad)

25 "What we know now" goes back to Michael Crichton and his lecture on science, consensus, and politics. It's fun to speculate, but that's all you are doing is guessing. Could be fun, could be a waste of time.

Is there federal grant money involved?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 20, 2013 11:53 AM (3iZs6)

26 I'm not worried. Congress will pass a law against it if a threat is imminent.

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2013 11:53 AM (FcR7P)

27 Eddys in the space-time continuum.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 20, 2013 11:54 AM (RSqz2)

28 On October 15, 1991, a high-energy proton from deep space struck Earth's
upper atmosphere. Known as the "Oh My God Particle", this proton was by
far the highest energy cosmic ray ever seen.


Anyone notice anything different that day? It was a Tuesday...

Clarence Thomas was confirmed by the Senate, but I think that would have happened anyway.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 11:54 AM (/kI1Q)

29 Who you jivin' with that cosmic debris?

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 11:54 AM (uH0pV)

30 I'm not worried. Congress will pass a law against it if a threat is imminent.

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2013 11:53 AM (FcR7P)

No, they will pass a new tax based on ignorant speculation and fraudulent bull shit.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 11:54 AM (53z96)

31 So should I put the same stock in these predictions and models that I do the current Climate Modeling scenarios?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:54 AM (yCvxi)

32 I'm of the opinion that if the Higgs Boson was gonna fuck us up, it would have done so by now. I think recent events though, indicate the most likely way we will face doom from outer space is from a really really big fucking rock.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:54 AM (8sCoq)

33 I don't know the science either, but clearly the culprits are the Big Oil companies and our conspicuous consumption of energy.

In fact, at our current rate of consumption, we will pass the tipping point in November 2016.

So don't forget to vote for the Democrat, otherwise the world will come to an end.

It's science.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 11:55 AM (T0NGe)

34 so eventually to realize that, a little bubble of what you might think
of as an alternate universe will appear somewhere, and it will spread
out and destroy us.


Fuck the lawn, Pop.

Posted by: Binkley at February 20, 2013 11:55 AM (mO9O5)

35 Let me watch my Farscape DVD collection again and I'll get back to you with all the answers to the questions you have.

Posted by: polynikes at February 20, 2013 11:55 AM (m2CN7)

36 We used to live near Fermilab. Fascinating place.

After the disappointment from SMOD, I'll just wait for Barry's civilian brown shirts to haul me to the camps and starve me to death.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 11:55 AM (UOM48)

37 >>This one proton's energy was equivalent to a regulation soccer ball
traveling at 15 meters per second (34 miles per hour). In the two
decades following, observers spotted several similarly energetic cosmic
rays, which left a big question: what was accelerating these protons to
higher speeds than anything we can achieve in on Earth?

What? 34 mph is a speed higher than anything we can achieve on Earth? Confused.

Posted by: angler at February 20, 2013 11:55 AM (SwjAj)

38 I think recent events though, indicate the most likely way we will face doom from outer space is from a really really big fucking rock.


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 11:54 AM (8sCoq)

I think the most like source of DOOM sits in the WH and Congress.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 11:56 AM (53z96)

39 So they will need a "quantum pin" to pop said bubble when it appears?

Posted by: Rep. Paul Rosenthal at February 20, 2013 11:56 AM (uhftQ)

40 http://tinyurl.com/bxent3b

Spontaneous human combustion.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 20, 2013 11:56 AM (rzTDZ)

41 So this doesn't really have anything to do with the post other than Ace mentioned health insurance and I'm really pissed off and want to scream about it.



The wife just called me. We got a notice from the health insurance provider. Rates are going up again. Up another $200 a month. $1700 a month for health insurance now. Yaaaayyyy Obamacare.


FUCK.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (da5Wo)

42 I'm far more concerned about Zombies frankly. Thank God they always attack last in a melee round.

Posted by: 5th Level Ranger at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (8/DeP)

43 What? 34 mph is a speed higher than anything we can achieve on Earth? Confused.

It's my understanding that the kinetic energy of the proton itself was the equivalent of a soccer ball traveling that fast.

Think about how much a proton weighs.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (GQ8sn)

44 ...But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens
shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved
with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be
burned up....

Sounds like some astrophysicist is looking for reconciliation.

Posted by: sTevo at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (82kma)

45
32 -

I've always been of the opinion that the more we seek the "Meaning Of Life," and the closer we get to actual answers, the more likely it is when we start to reveal actual evidence of the existence of God, that's the point at which he hits the "Reset" button.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (TOk1P)

46 I think recent events though, indicate the most likely way we will face
doom from outer space is from a really really big fucking rock.

***

We need really big fucking rock control.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (XUKZU)

47
Some days, I'm ok with the idea of a violent unraveling of our reality.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (+xmn4)

48 I think recent events though, indicate the most likely way we will face doom from outer space is from a really really big fucking rock.

You don't say?

Posted by: The Dinosaurs at February 20, 2013 11:58 AM (GBXon)

49 Oh woops. I didn't notice that Ace had already pointed out the Ice-9 comparison in his post.

Posted by: Ben at February 20, 2013 11:58 AM (C2Y4l)

50 What's the difference between a regular mechanic and a quantum mechanic?

A quantum mechanic doesn't have to open the door to put the car in the garage.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 20, 2013 11:58 AM (RSqz2)

51 I blame the Joooos

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 11:58 AM (d6m30)

52 I smell Koch money in this.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 11:58 AM (yCvxi)

53 We're all going to die anyway, so what does it matter?

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 20, 2013 11:58 AM (6J6x7)

54 What? 34 mph is a speed higher than anything we can achieve on Earth? Confused.

Don't question the experts, ignorant peasant.

Posted by: Methos at February 20, 2013 11:59 AM (hO9ad)

55 By the way, do these guys have a Grand Unified Theory yet?

No?

They should get to work on that so they know what they're talking about.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 11:59 AM (T0NGe)

56 Oh, and if we're going to be living in an alternate universe, I'm going to grow a goatee in this one, because I want my new self to be clean shaven.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 11:59 AM (TOk1P)

57 http://tinyurl.com/bxent3b

Spontaneous human combustion.


Posted by: LC LaWedgie
---

Spinal Tap must be auditioning new drummers.

Posted by: sTevo at February 20, 2013 11:59 AM (82kma)

58 Turtles, all the way down.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 12:00 PM (QupBk)

59 Bullshit....

not mocking you Ace I'm just saying...

the entire fucking concept is bullshit, BUT mankind WANTS to die on this dirtball so we will....

we're a young species a hiccup in time, and we are stuck on a planet that is exceptional only in its fortune WRT orbit and water content....

and we're here whether an amoeba made good or "God" breathes life into clay we're here....

we're empowering free shit army, we refuse to take the steps to have multiple places with bald apes on them....

so Idiocracy may do us in, maybe a virus, maybe a nice meteor strike, maybe a gamma ray burst, maybe the malthusians voluntarily kill us off....


me, I believe in mankind and I am pretty sure we'll endure so long as we have ~10,000 breeding age couples on the dirt ball....

would have been nice not to be stuck on Earth forever but Ogabe wants to sell poverty to freeshit army not growth.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:00 PM (LRFds)

60 Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (GQ8sn)

You read the post? WTH?

Posted by: Andy B. at February 20, 2013 12:01 PM (hO9ad)

61 When SMOD comes, I hope I can get some good photos

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:01 PM (8sCoq)

62 "The wife just called me. We got a notice from the health insurance provider. Rates are going up again. Up another $200 a month. $1700 a month for health insurance now. Yaaaayyyy Obamacare."


Seriously dude, how the hell do you afford that?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 12:01 PM (yCvxi)

63 i don't understand how there are shockwaves in a vacuum


Silly ace, haven't you seen the remastered Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope? When the Death Star blows up you get a pretty shockwave effect! So it must be true!

But in all seriousness, if energy doesn't disappear but is simply transformed, then all the energy released by a supernova must go SOMEWHERE.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:01 PM (4df7R)

64 This isn't the hill to die on

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 12:01 PM (d6m30)

65 Good thing we got rid of that Bush administration and their culture of fear.

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2013 12:02 PM (qiXMt)

66 Of more concern is a gamma ray burst setting our shit on fire. And by shit, I mean everything, and by fire, I mean entirely deplete the earth's ozone layer.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 12:02 PM (+xmn4)

67 Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 11:57 AM (GQ8sn)

You read the post? WTH?


Posted by: Andy B. at February 20, 2013 12:01 PM (hO9ad)


I can't be the only one who does, right?

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:02 PM (GQ8sn)

68 I blame the Joooos
Posted by: thunderb
***

Mr. Moo Moo, is that you? /

Posted by: Rep. Paul Rosenthal at February 20, 2013 12:02 PM (uhftQ)

69 Where's CAC? He could probably wax poeticallya bout this...

Posted by: Psychedelicat at February 20, 2013 12:02 PM (Vk2pI)

70 Who you jivin' with that cosmic debris?

Nice.

Posted by: The Crux of the Biscuit at February 20, 2013 12:02 PM (QupBk)

71 Why don't I get any doomsday love anymore?

Posted by: Magnetic Monopoles at February 20, 2013 12:02 PM (Vk2pI)

72 By the way, do these guys have a Grand Unified Theory yet?

No?

They should get to work on that so they know what they're talking about.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 11:59 AM (T0NGe)
=========

I thought the Grand Unified Field Theory was: "Sh*t Flows Down Hill".

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 20, 2013 12:03 PM (RSqz2)

73 Off vile sock!

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 20, 2013 12:03 PM (uhftQ)

74 Hey! What about me?

Posted by: The Core at February 20, 2013 12:03 PM (GQ8sn)

75 The wife just called me. We got a notice from the health insurance provider. Rates are going up again. Up another $200 a month. $1700 a month for health insurance now. Yaaaayyyy Obamacare.

Jeezy Creezy, EC. That's insane!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:03 PM (4df7R)

76 The phrase "settled science" is the biggest popular fraud since the fucking Cardiff giant.

We haven't even started peeling the onion yet, we've only planted the seed that will become an onion someday.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 12:04 PM (/gHaE)

77 Does anybody know anything about health insurance options? I'm very confused. Is it only through your job?

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at February 20, 2013 12:04 PM (5UlAL)

78 Jeezy Creezy, EC. That's insane!

That's BCochran.

I know it's easy to mistake us on the internet.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:04 PM (GQ8sn)

79 Of more concern is a gamma ray burst setting our shit on fire. And by shit, I mean everything, and by fire, I mean entirely deplete the earth's ozone layer.
Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 12:02 PM (+xmn4)



This.


I try not to think too much about this.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:04 PM (4df7R)

80 duh.... i got hit by a soccer ball once.

Posted by: and irresolute at February 20, 2013 12:04 PM (DBH1h)

81 66 Heralder,

correct which means in all likelihood we need to get the fuck out of the solar system...and Ogabe made NASA a fucking subsidiary of CAIR....

NASA does just enough to fuck over private deep space exploration....

I'd give everything I made from one of wife or my incomes to try to get off this fucking rock within 3 generations....

Soros and Gore want to undo the information age.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:04 PM (LRFds)

82 Sven, you seem to be in a more pessimistic mood than usual today.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (gmeXX)

83 Seriously dude, how the hell do you afford that?

He's obviously an evil 1%er.

Posted by: conspiratorial occupooper at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (hO9ad)

84 Forgive a The Big Bang Theory reference, but there was an episode where Penny asks Leonard 'what's new in the world of physics?' and he says 'Nothing, since the 1930s'

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (8sCoq)

85 Um let it burn...by gamma ray burst?

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (d6m30)

86 i got hit by a soccer ball once.

Oww. My Balls!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (QupBk)

87 I don't care what the deniers say, this is going to kill us all unless we pay higher taxes and give up some modern convinences.

Posted by: jwest at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (ZDsRL)

88 Seriously dude, how the hell do you afford that?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 12:01 PM (yCvxi)


And that's just the premiums. Never mind the $1000 per person/capped at $3000 for family deductible. Or the 20% of any hospital stay, capped at $3000. Or the copays. Or the prescription costs.

Yayyyyy me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (da5Wo)

89 The shock waves come from the nova itself (which is largely Helium) then the proton/nucleus configuration of the cosmic ray is further accelerated by the expanding magnetic fields of the nova.


I find it interesting that they claim it actually reaches the speed of light (in a vacuum) and that it does have mass. That seems to be a contradiction to Einstein and the theory of relativity.

Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (53z96)

90 So, Global Warming, er, Climate Change is the cause?

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (VjL9S)

91 an alternate universe will appear somewhere, and it will spread out and destroy us.

Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.

Posted by: Ace Rimmer at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (/kI1Q)

92 That's BCochran.
I know it's easy to mistake us on the internet.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:04 PM (GQ8sn)



Well, see, now I just feel silly.

But aren't you glad you AREN'T paying $1700 a month for insurance? It's kind of like when your kid comes to you and says, "Hey dad, I just wanted to tell you... I killed a prostitute. Kidding! But I DID flunk AP Chemistry. Kind of gives you some perspective."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (4df7R)

93 The good news is that all of these changes and soccer ball hits occur at the speed of light, so yer way dead before you even notice it.

Posted by: and irresolute at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (DBH1h)

94 So the universe is trying to kill us very, very slowly. Lovely.

Posted by: joncelli at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (RD7QR)

95 The phrase "settled science" is the biggest popular fraud since the fucking Cardiff giant.

Piltdown Man: Settled science.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (T0NGe)

96 >>>I don't understand how there are shockwaves in a vacuum.

Little is understood about gravity as a field affect force warping space. Some think it can take on a waveform like electromagnetics, and propagate itself through space as a space distortion wave.

In addition to that possibility. Electromagnetic radiation can travel as a shock wave through a vacuum.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (0q2P7)

97 Does anybody know anything about health insurance options?

A)Grab ankles
B)Die Quietly

Posted by: Methos at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (hO9ad)

98 >>Rates are going up again. Up another $200 a month
---
My 401k truck loan is ending in March. With Taxes and premium hikes it feels like I am on a hamster wheel. Can't get ahead.

Posted by: sTevo at February 20, 2013 12:07 PM (82kma)

99 This one proton's energy was equivalent to a regulation soccer ball traveling at 15 meters per second (34 miles per hour)

So, the "Oh, My God!" particle had the energy of a flubbed shot by Obama? Perhaps that's terrifying, but it's like saying "the car smashed into him with the energy of a one-foot wave!".

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2013 12:07 PM (FcR7P)

100 The good news is the hole made by protons is pretty small. You're not gonna bleed out if you get hit by one.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 12:07 PM (/gHaE)

101 But aren't you glad you AREN'T paying $1700 a month for insurance?

Yes. That works out to $20k a year.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:07 PM (GQ8sn)

102 Hard to believe insurance rates are going up under Obamacare seeing how all it did was mandate unlimited coverage for just about every condition under the sun and no denial for preexisting conditions.

#TradeObamacareForSequester

/ I don'tdotwitter, is that how it works.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:07 PM (gmeXX)

103 This has all already happened. We are all already dead. That's why nothing makes sense.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (+paCV)

104 OK, I admit it. I am on a hamster wheel.

Posted by: sTevo at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (82kma)

105
Well, the good news about gamma ray bursts are that they're really narrow. We'd have to have worse luck than getting hit by an asteroid large enough to cause an extinction event.

Either way, it's almost relaxing knowing there not a damn thing we can do about it. Way beyond our power.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (+xmn4)

106 Congress should declare a no random universe or gamma ray burst zone

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (d6m30)

107 And that's just the premiums. Never mind the $1000
per person/capped at $3000 for family deductible. Or the 20% of any
hospital stay, capped at $3000. Or the copays. Or the prescription
costs.

Yayyyyy me.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (da5Wo)

Is this policy through work? Because if it's not, you need to shop around. That's outrageous.

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (X6akg)

108 The good news is the hole made by protons is pretty small. You're not gonna bleed out if you get hit by one.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 12:07 PM (/gHaE)


So what you're saying is Colorado co-eds should learn to defend themselves with proton strikes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (4df7R)

109 Smod or Subatomic viral universe take me away....

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (9+ccr)

110 A)Grab ankles
B)Die Quietly
---
Yeah. Thanks. Fucking awesome.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (5UlAL)

111 So what you're saying is Colorado co-eds should learn to defend themselves with proton strikes.

*golf clap*

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:09 PM (GQ8sn)

112 Hard to believe insurance rates are going up under Obamacare seeing how
all it did was mandate unlimited coverage for just about every condition
under the sun and no denial for preexisting conditions.


Whether you need it or not.

Don't forget to get your annual Pap smear, BCochran1981! It's "free"!

Posted by: Ace Rimmer at February 20, 2013 12:09 PM (/kI1Q)

113 *golf clap*
Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:09 PM (GQ8sn)



*bow* I do what I can.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:09 PM (4df7R)

114 Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:05 PM (da5Wo)


Jesus dude, that $1700 would leave me with a hundred bucks a month left for rent, utilities, phone, cable, and food out of my little milret pay. Trying to find another job right now and that sort of insurance bill is extremely demotivating toward that goal.


Oh sweet, it's past noon so I can start drinking heavily in light of this.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 12:09 PM (yCvxi)

115 "And suddenly.....the Earth blew up."

Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (KXm42)

116 Settled science is a bogus term. I'm also tired of people telling me that evolution is settled science. No - evolution is a theory, and like all theories, has not yet been completely proven to be true. I mean this is crap you learn in 2nd grade science class. Teach evolution all you want, I bellieve it myself (with God's intervention) but please don't teach students that a theory is fact, because then aren't teaching science anymore.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (gmeXX)

117 >
So the universe is trying to kill us very, very slowly. Lovely.

Posted by: joncelli at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (RD7QR)

More like, the universe is completely indifferent to us. Which is fair.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (8sCoq)

118 The phrase "settled science" is the biggest popular fraud since the fucking Cardiff giant.

Piltdown Man: Settled science.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 12:06 PM (T0NGe)


Earth-centered universe? Settled science!

Posted by: Claudius Ptolemaeus at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (Vk2pI)

119 Joffen, you can get a cobra plan, not the insurance but it will hold you over till you can find a new gig.

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (iRTO8)

120 Spontaneous Combustion is what got the second Ace.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (uH0pV)

121 You don't need physics or math to parse this asshole's statement:

"If you use all the physics that we know now, and we do what we think is a straightforward calculation, it's bad news," Lykken said,

First of all, the Higgs-Boson particle, IF it exists, ALREADY existed before these numbnuts started looking for it. I say "if" it exists, because they're not even sure if what they found in their experiment is what they were looking for. But now, all of a sudden, we're supposed to give a shit.

So, taking these murky, grabasstic results, and then applying what we "think" is as straightforward calculation to what is admittedly an indeterminate pile of ambiguous shit, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!

Fuck off with that shit. Just another lame extortion attempt so these fuckin nerds can get billions more dollars in continued funding to count angels on pinheads when they can't even predict what the weather will be like this afternoon with 100% accuracy. Remember when the Human Genome Project was going to give us Ultimate Understanding of the human body and lead to the eradication of genetic disorders and diseases like cancer? Anybody look up the practical results of that, which by the way, was accomplished more than five years ago?

I have. Let me condense it for you: Fuck All.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (CJjw5)

122 I figure it is always noon somewhere.

Posted by: sTevo at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (82kma)

123 Is this policy through work? Because if it's not, you need to shop around. That's outrageous.


Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:08 PM (X6akg)


I work for a small family business. Small as in there are only 3 salaried employees. We don't have health coverage. And we're locked in to the plan we have. Because I'm a Type 1 diabetic, I can't get coverage. From anyone. At any price.

Oh. And that $1700 a month? That's just for medical. No vision or dental.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Hysterical? No, no, not me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:11 PM (da5Wo)

124 A proton strike made me do it!

Posted by: and irresolute at February 20, 2013 12:11 PM (DBH1h)

125 82 SH,

people are idiots....

this topic ELE has been in hysteria mode my whole life.....

I'm not a pessimist about the crises I am a pessimist about mankind's fucking will and morals.....

Hell say SMOD strikes and it is a ~90% order of probability that Earth's arable land zone will be stuck to withing 4-8 degrees of the Equator.....

guess what?

Time for a mad land rush and then laying the groundwork for 'what comes next".....

and I am okay with that, not happy but "okay" what I am not okay with is constant motion backwards.....

There is no resource crisis on this Earth that is not voluntary, and the nation state has empowered fucking retards to thwart progress.....

I look back at the 50s vision of 2020 and I cry tears of rage.....

hell when I was a kid this clip...

http://youtu.be/VufZLo94MFU

That whole movie was seen as a "dystopia" me I look back on that and am envious of a civilization driven enough to actually DO FUCKING THINGS....

we're empowering the dumbfuckery that turned the great depression into a national lifestyle....

never mind...

the narcissist in me used to fantasize that America would be the face the future would see, but I was reading some Chinese lit.....

that's 5000 years old.

We're a joke.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:11 PM (LRFds)

126 I have it on good authority that it's turtles all the way down.


The Apocalypse will be turtle based.

Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2013 12:11 PM (KXm42)

127 And that's just the premiums. Never mind the $1000 per person/capped at $3000 for family deductible. Or the 20% of any hospital stay, capped at $3000.

Funny how now that we've got all this insurance, we can't afford to get sick.

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2013 12:12 PM (FcR7P)

128
@34

This place needs more Bloom County references.

Posted by: Big McLargeHuge at February 20, 2013 12:12 PM (XTy5s)

129 Joffen, you can get a cobra plan, not the insurance but it will hold you over till you can find a new gig.

That costs out the ass. Joffen, you're single now, yes? Just go the illegals route and pay nothing to nobody, then go to the ER if you get sick.

It's the New American Way.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 12:12 PM (QupBk)

130 Its five o'clock somewhere

Posted by: thunderb at February 20, 2013 12:12 PM (d6m30)

131 Apocalypse TURTLE

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:12 PM (8sCoq)

132 The phrase "settled science" is the biggest popular fraud since the fucking Cardiff giant.


Piltdown Man: Settled science.




Earth-centered universe? Settled science!





Hollow earth? SETTLED. SCIENCE.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:12 PM (4df7R)

133 Trying to find another job right now and that sort of insurance bill is extremely demotivating toward that goal.

Think crime.

Crime pays very well these days. If you're smart and don't get greedy, you'll never be caught.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 12:13 PM (/gHaE)

134 Is this policy through work? Because if it's not, you need to shop around. That's outrageous.

Sounds reasonable to us

Posted by: The IRS, circa 2016 at February 20, 2013 12:13 PM (hO9ad)

135 That costs out the ass. Joffen, you're single now, yes? Just go the illegals route and pay nothing to nobody, then go to the ER if you get sick.

It's the New American Way.
----
This is my fault. I shouldn't have asked on here.

Not making that fucking mistake again. Have a good one, guys.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at February 20, 2013 12:13 PM (5UlAL)

136 "And that's just the premiums. Never mind the $1000 per person/capped at $3000 for family deductible. Or the 20% of any hospital stay, capped at $3000. Or the copays. Or the prescription costs."

But at least somebody's non-insured Grammy will get a new liver 4 months before she dies of some other complication since it is partially funded by your high premiums.

I'll be over at the Death Panel if you need to talk.

Posted by: jwest at February 20, 2013 12:13 PM (ZDsRL)

137 If the God Particle hits you, do you get super powers?

Posted by: and irresolute at February 20, 2013 12:14 PM (DBH1h)

138 Nope, nope...
It's a Gamma ray burst we need to worry about, they happen all the time. Eventually we will be in the right spot and we'll get microwaved. Too bad there's not a damn thing we can do about it.

Posted by: Log Cabin at February 20, 2013 12:14 PM (1DZOE)

139 "We don't have health coverage. And we're locked in to the plan we have."




Um....what?

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:14 PM (X6akg)

140 IF it exists, ALREADY existed before these numbnuts started looking for it.

Now that's just silly. Next you're going to tell me the temperature and precipitation amounts of the entire planet never changed until Americans started driving cars and air-conditioning their homes.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 12:14 PM (/kI1Q)

141 Of more concern is a gamma ray burst setting our shit on fire. And by
shit, I mean everything, and by fire, I mean entirely deplete the
earth's ozone layer.


Hey now. Enough with the flirting. I'm straight, so save the sexy talk for the ladies.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2013 12:15 PM (SY2Kh)

142 The Apocalypse will be turtle based.
Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2013 12:11 PM (KXm42)

Gamera!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 12:15 PM (DrWcr)

143 Earth-centered universe? Settled science!Posted by: Claudius Ptolemaeus at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (Vk2pI) Hey, man - you had a great run. Even after you fell out of popularity, you were still more accurate than that upstart Copernicus.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 12:15 PM (CLoZA)

144
"We don't have health coverage. And we're locked in to the plan we have."




Um....what?


Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:14 PM (X6akg)


Sorry. Poor formatting. What I meant was that we don't have coverage through work and that my family is locked into the coverage we already have.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:15 PM (da5Wo)

145 I'm not worried. Congress will pass a law against it if a threat is imminent.


And the GOP will fold like a cheap suit.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:15 PM (GFM2b)

146 Bacon is chock full of sub-atomic particles! That's why it tastes so good.

Posted by: and irresolute at February 20, 2013 12:16 PM (DBH1h)

147 Wait until the obamacare taxes kick in the beginning of 2014. You will be paying another 20%.

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 20, 2013 12:16 PM (6J6x7)

148 This is my fault. I shouldn't have asked on here.

I hope I didn't offend you. I was being serious. Cobra continues your coverage, but you also have to pay was was the employer's contribution. I did it once to cover my son's asthma until he was was passed the precondition deadline. And it was mucho expensive.

If I were single, I'd go without insurance.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 12:16 PM (QupBk)

149 I have. Let me condense it for you: Fuck All.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:10 PM (CJjw5)


Q: What's the difference between the current system of scientific grants and alchemy?

A: Not much, really.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2013 12:16 PM (T0NGe)

150 Kitteh is angry over SMOD:


http://tinyurl.com/crtsz45

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 12:17 PM (UOM48)

151 So this viral universe... what're the odds it develops on one of Sandy Fluke's crab-infested pubes? I mean, I'm not saying she's a modern day Typhoid Mary with the number of STDs she's toting around or anything. I'm just saying her vagina will end the world as we know it by spawning a semi-sentient parasite universe that will kill us all.


(And yes, I know "viral" here is used as in "viral marketing campaign" not "viral infection." But it's all the same in Vagina 'Verse.)

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:17 PM (4df7R)

152 Crime pays very well these days. If you're smart and don't get greedy, you'll never be caught.

I know, right?

Posted by: John Corzine at February 20, 2013 12:17 PM (hO9ad)

153 I'm honestly trying to figure out why anyone has insurance. My family plan at work (including what my employer pays) is about $2,500 per month. Now its a fairly good plan, but that is $30,000 per year. No way we use that much medical in one year. I think I'd rather simply have the cash in hand and just take the risks. I can pay for minor out-of-pocket expenses, even minor emergencies. All I need is major medical coverage, but maybe not even that.

#BringOnTheObamacareTax

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:17 PM (gmeXX)

154
135 -

You put enough of your personal business out there that some of us have some idea what you are going through, but not everybody does.

Do you really expect the running commentary of your life to be known by all? That's sort of unrealistic, isn't it?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 12:17 PM (TOk1P)

155 Now that's just silly. Next you're going to tell me the temperature and precipitation amounts of the entire planet never changed until Americans started driving cars and air-conditioning their homes.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 12:14 PM (/kI1Q)


I can't hear you over the crackling of this styrofoam bonfire and the hissing of the hairspray cans I'm firing directly into the atmosphere. It's cold as fuck up here.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:18 PM (CJjw5)

156 It's like the recent meteor.

Oh! Watch this big one fly close (17,000 miles away). Historic!

Never mind those 10 tons ones we missed with the explosive power of 10 Hiroshima bombs. Whoops. Sorry, Russia, Cuba and Los Angeles I have to recalibrate the slide rule.

It' science and it's sure as hell not perfect.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 12:18 PM (GGCsk)

157 Winter storm warning for tonight in Denver Metro

6-12"

It's not SMOD, but it will be damned inconvenient.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:18 PM (8sCoq)

158 Sorry. Poor formatting. What I meant was that we
don't have coverage through work and that my family is locked into the
coverage we already have.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:15 PM (da5Wo)

Ah...ok. Locked in until when? Just for shits and giggles, check with a broker....see if there's any thing you can do.

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:18 PM (X6akg)

159 Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at February 20, 2013 12:13 PM (5UlAL)

In all seriousness, Joffen, some of us are simply going without. I just meant to point out that this is exactly what the Dems claimed the GOP plan was.

Posted by: Methos at February 20, 2013 12:19 PM (hO9ad)

160 So what you're saying is Colorado
co-eds should learn to defend themselves with proton strikes.


Do proton strikes defeat protein strikes?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:19 PM (GFM2b)

161 This one proton's energy was equivalent to a regulation soccer ball traveling at 15 meters per second (34 miles per hour)



So, the "Oh, My God!" particle had the energy of a flubbed shot by
Obama? Perhaps that's terrifying, but it's like saying "the car smashed
into him with the energy of a one-foot wave!".


Ok that soccer reference was probably for prog weenies who don't understand anything about the practical world. Think of it like an arrow fired from a longbow traveling at 200 ft/sec.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 20, 2013 12:19 PM (0q2P7)

162 Sounds like CAC's virus has spread to Ace.
Via some inter dimensional trans lubra spiral wormhole thingy.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 20, 2013 12:19 PM (Qxdfp)

163
Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:17 PM (gmeXX)

If only there was an account where you could save for such events. You know, without having to pay taxes on those savings until they were put into play for something other than HealthCare.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 12:19 PM (CLoZA)

164 Congress will pass a law against it if a threat is imminent.

Unlicensed gamma ray bursts now punishable by $100K fine and/or five years in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison. QED.

(Next day's headline: "19 gamma ray bursts in Chicago; 7 dead including infant.")

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 12:19 PM (/kI1Q)

165 If humanity makes it another 10K years, we'll probably figure out how to stabilize or reverse a collapse of the false vacuum. Assuming some other, more advanced intelligence hasn't already done the work for us.

Posted by: Johnv2 at February 20, 2013 12:19 PM (1Eqcp)

166 Remember, good insurance plans will probably be deemed "Cadillac" plans meaning they will also be subject to additional taxes.

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 20, 2013 12:19 PM (6J6x7)

167 Actually, were I single at this point, I'd be a bum. Just walking the Earth and having adventures and shit.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 12:20 PM (QupBk)

168 I can't hear you over the crackling of this
styrofoam bonfire and the hissing of the hairspray cans I'm firing
directly into the atmosphere. It's cold as fuck up here.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:18 PM (CJjw5)


Please tell me you've seen the old school Drew Carey stand up bit about this?

He's doing the show in Cleveland and he's pretending to be outside spraying cans of hairspray. "Screw the grandkids. I'm cold now!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:20 PM (da5Wo)

169 So, the bottom line I'm seeing is that someday, somehow, we're all going to die. Don't need no fancy scientist to tell me that!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 12:20 PM (DrWcr)

170 It's not SMOD, but it will be damned inconvenient.
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:18 PM (8sCoq)


Bundle up! Maybe it'll deter some local rapists?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:20 PM (4df7R)

171 Oh yeah, and they're *not related.

Right.

Do you really think they would tell us? Doubt it.

Posted by: Marcus at February 20, 2013 12:20 PM (GGCsk)

172 can't hear you over the crackling of this styrofoam bonfire

---

Here's what I don't understand about styrofoam. Humans created it using organic objects from the earth? How can it be bad for landfills? Eventually it will decompose. Who cares if it takes thousands of years. All I know is it keeps my coffee cold.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (gmeXX)

173 Unlicensed gamma ray bursts now punishable by $100K fine and/or five years in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison. QED.
HULK SMASH PRISON!

Posted by: Incredible Hulk at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (DrWcr)

174 All I know is it keeps my coffee cold.

Cold?

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (GQ8sn)

175 >Bundle up! Maybe it'll deter some local rapists?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:20 PM (4df7R)

I guess college girls can throw snowballs at them, maybe whack 'em with a snow shovel

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (8sCoq)

176 Ah...ok. Locked in until when? Just for shits and giggles, check with a broker....see if there's any thing you can do.


Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:18 PM (X6akg)


We renew our plan every October. I think?

There's nothing out there. We've checked. Repeatedly. Absolutely no one will cover me at any price at this point.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (da5Wo)

177 He's doing the show in Cleveland and he's pretending to be outside spraying cans of hairspray. "Screw the grandkids. I'm cold now!"
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:20 PM (da5Wo)


I thought the aerosol reflected sunlight and made it colder?

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (+xmn4)

178 There's always that "prophecy of the Popes/ Revelation/ End Times" thing to look forward to, if SMOD bails on us like the Mayans did.

Posted by: shibumi at February 20, 2013 12:22 PM (z63Tr)

179
159 -

He's having custody and visitation issues with his kid(s), and needs some sort of counseling to be able to have them unsupervised.

So in his mind at least, NOT having insurance right now is not an option.

(If I got any of that wrong, I'm sorry, that's the simplest summary I could come up with)

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 12:22 PM (TOk1P)

180 All I know is it keeps my coffee cold.
Cold?

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (GQ8sn)



Iced coffee?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:22 PM (4df7R)

181 Think of it like an arrow fired from a longbow traveling at 200 ft/sec.


Crossbows can do 250 ft/sec.
Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:22 PM (GFM2b)

182 Time to ban assault particles.

Posted by: Roy at February 20, 2013 12:22 PM (VndSC)

183 There's nothing out there. We've checked. Repeatedly. Absolutely no one will cover me at any price at this point.


My man! Gotcha covered!!!

Posted by: Healthcare Exchange Coming to A State Near You at February 20, 2013 12:23 PM (GQ8sn)

184 And the GOP will fold like a cheap suit.


I'll have you know I fold like a fucking Armani.

Posted by: Senator Dick Twaddel at February 20, 2013 12:23 PM (KXm42)

185 It's going to take a huge Asteroid Free Zone sign, but we can prevent this tragedy.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 20, 2013 12:23 PM (ZshNr)

186 Totally O/T (and pics nsfw). Mom hires strippers to give lap dances for 16 year-old son's birthday:

http://tinyurl.com/bcxvdny

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 12:23 PM (UOM48)

187 If only there was an account where you could save for such events. You know, without having to pay taxes on those savings until they were put into play for something other than HealthCare.

----

Yeah, and Congress in its infinite wisdom has said that we should set up FSAs so that people can use pre-tax money for medical payments. But you have to run that through some administrative company set up by employer rather than just deducting the amount from your income.
Whatever.

The solution is actually very simple. Politics makes it hard.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:23 PM (gmeXX)

188 156 Marcus,

Yeah Ivan gets all the luck....

basically we're doomed because we choose to be, but that's the "beauty" of our system I suppose.....

people want ease of life here, and fiat currency and the superstate controlling growth through fiat currency and regulatory games means why should the Feds pretend to care about anything more than their Thursday Senate bean lunch and buying votes...

and Free Shit Army can be bought for less than 3 grand a month.....

cheap....

36,000 * 300,000,000=10,800,000,000,000

why by Golly we're almost there in spending take a look!

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:23 PM (LRFds)

189 Keeps my coffee hot. I messed that up. I hate iced coffee.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:24 PM (gmeXX)

190 Humans created it using organic objects from the earth? How can it be bad for landfills?

Humans created it = bad

No one ever tries to carbon tax Mt. Pinatubo.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 12:24 PM (/kI1Q)

191 Half-Naked Ivy League Prof Opens Quantum Physics Course with 9/11 Footage, Hitler



Wait. What?

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 12:24 PM (fWAjv)

192 89
The shock waves come from the nova itself (which is largely Helium) then
the proton/nucleus configuration of the cosmic ray is further
accelerated by the expanding magnetic fields of the nova.


I
find it interesting that they claim it actually reaches the speed of
light (in a vacuum) and that it does have mass. That seems to be a
contradiction to Einstein and the theory of relativity.
*********

No. In the article they say it reaches "nearly" the speed of light. At that speed the mass increases exponentially, but since the particle itself is not a photon, it isn't traveling at the speed of a photon/aka light.

No contradiction.

Posted by: Zombie Einstein at February 20, 2013 12:24 PM (o6qwg)

193 There's nothing out there. We've checked. Repeatedly. Absolutely no one will cover me at any price at this point.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (da5Wo)

I'm not being smartassed, for once, but wasn't Obamacare supposed to get rid of this situation by eliminating exclusions for preexisting conditions, and establishing high risk insurance pools?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 12:24 PM (DrWcr)

194 If humanity makes it another 10K years, we'll probably figure out how to
stabilize or reverse a collapse of the false vacuum. Assuming some
other, more advanced intelligence hasn't already done the work for us.


No, you'll just launch a bunch of tachyons at it and fuck up everything forever.

Posted by: Q at February 20, 2013 12:25 PM (hO9ad)

195 I'm no scientist but all this talk of 'particles' and shockwaves and dust and gas and what-not always strikes me as wrong. A 'particle'? Like a crumb?

At least come up with a better model, scientists. We all grew up with their model of the atom as a collection of particles, and that model just doesn't hold up.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:25 PM (zpqa2)

196 I guess college girls can throw snowballs at them, maybe whack 'em with a snow shovel
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (8sCoq)



Assault crampons. On the shoes. Good for walking in icy conditions, and excellent for tearing up an attacker's legs and nether regions.


If the snowballs are packed around a rock or a chunk of ice, it might not be a bad weapon. If they're going to use a snow shovel, though, I think they have to make sure they have one of those nice sturdy ones that really plow through teh snow. A dinky car shovel with a plastic handle and a 6-inch blade is just not going to cut it, literally or figuratively.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:25 PM (4df7R)

197 So this viral universe... what're the odds it develops on one of Sandy Fluke's crab-infested pubes? I mean, I'm not saying she's a modern day Typhoid Mary with the number of STDs she's toting around or anything. I'm just saying her vagina will end the world as we know it by spawning a semi-sentient parasite universe that will kill us all.

That reminds me of that scene in the Ice Pirates:
Princess Karina: "What was that?!"

Jason: "It was a space herpe."

Princess Karina: "A WHAT?!"

Jason: "Space. Herpe."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:25 PM (CJjw5)

198 Totally O/T (and pics nsfw). Mom hires strippers to give lap dances for 16 year-old son's birthday


I wonder if she's into adoption?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:25 PM (GFM2b)

199 "Think crime.


Crime pays very well these days. If you're smart and don't get greedy, you'll never be caught.


Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 12:13 PM (/gHaE)"



So basically you're saying I need to become a Democrat politician?


I'm down with that.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2013 12:25 PM (yCvxi)

200 There's nothing out there. We've checked. Repeatedly. Absolutely no one will cover me at any price at this point.

The wife and I got a Blue Cross/Blue Shield plan with a $4000 limit out of pocket for under $500 per month.

My heart attack last September cost them about $75,000, so I'm expecting a rate increase sometime soon.

Posted by: jwest at February 20, 2013 12:26 PM (ZDsRL)

201 11
"The universe wants to be in a different state, so eventually to realize

that, it will move to Texas."

Posted by: JSchuler at February 20, 2013 11:50 AM (SmZQt)

Ha ha ha ha ha!!! Good one!

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 20, 2013 12:26 PM (6H6o8)

202 Good to know the Colorado Legislature has its priorities right:

DENVER – Marijuana tourism is on the way to Colorado, under a recommendation made Tuesday by a state task force to regulate the drug made legal by voters last year.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:26 PM (8sCoq)

203 All I know is it keeps my coffee cold.


d'oh!

Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2013 12:26 PM (KXm42)

204 If arrows can pierce armor, what's the point of wearing it?

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (6J6x7)

205 Wait a minute... so OMG proton's going on the order of 10^14 m/s!?!? That's using soccer ball = 0.43kg. Then that is on the order of 800,000 TIMES speed of light!?! I'm not buying that.

Posted by: Roscoe at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (MIovV)

206 There's nothing out there. We've checked. Repeatedly. Absolutely no one will cover me at any price at this point.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:21 PM (da5Wo)

Well that sucks.

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (X6akg)

207 Crime pays very well these days. If you're smart and don't get greedy, you'll never be caught.
____________________________

I tried .. all I ended up with was 30 subscriptions to 'Vibe' magazine. What am I going to do with 30 subscriptions to 'Vibe' magazine.
_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (J8DGo)

208 It' science and it's sure as hell not perfect.

Science ain't an exact science with these bozos...

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Dancing Ampersands at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (GBXon)

209 Totally O/T (and pics nsfw). Mom hires strippers to give lap dances for 16 year-old son's birthday I wonder if she's into adoption?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:25 PM (GFM2b)

The AOSHQ Stylebook demands that you provide links.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (DrWcr)

210 If the snowballs are packed around a rock or a chunk of ice, it might not be a bad weapon.

Unless you're being raped indoors. Or in the warm months, when violent crime increases.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (/kI1Q)

211
193 -

Hah! Next thing you'll tell me is states don't need to expand their welfare rolls to add all those uninsured people to that don't have health insurance already, who thought it was gonna be "free" like the Preezy said it was...

Why would ANY state NOT want to sign up??? Billions of free money!!!!

For health!!!!!!!!!

(too many exclamation pts?)

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (TOk1P)

212 Good to know the Colorado Legislature has its priorities rightENVER – Marijuana tourism is on the way to Colorado, under a recommendation made Tuesday by a state task force to regulate the drug made legal by voters last year.Posted by: Jones in CO


The legislature also is planning to rename the highway around Denver as I-420

Posted by: Roy at February 20, 2013 12:28 PM (VndSC)

213 188...and Free Shit ArmyFreebaggers can be bought for less than 3 grand a month.....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:23 PM (LRFds)

---------

Sven,
We discovered a better moniker for the parasites the other day...one that they are less likely to approve of.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2013 12:28 PM (DZbQ0)

214 For health!!!!!!!!!(too many exclamation pts?)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (TOk1P)

Just a couple.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 12:28 PM (DrWcr)

215 If arrows can pierce armor, what's the point of wearing it?

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (6J6x7)


There are two points, actually, if it involves a chainmail bikini...

Posted by: The Political Hat role's a natural 20 at February 20, 2013 12:28 PM (Vk2pI)

216 Here in WA they were recently advertising an opening for some kind of a pot expert, to work at the liquor control board (which will regulate the pot).

I'd like to see the person who gets hired.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:28 PM (zpqa2)

217 >>>At least come up with a better model, scientists. We all grew up with
their model of the atom as a collection of particles, and that model
just doesn't hold up.

There are better models, much better models. You would be unprepared to discuss, or even relate to them to ideas that you understand. As far as discussion of the subatomic goes, particles is still the most relatable model for the layperson.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 20, 2013 12:29 PM (0q2P7)

218 DENVER – Marijuana tourism is on the way to Colorado, under a recommendation made Tuesday by a state task force to regulate the drug made legal by voters last year.
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:26 PM (8sCoq)


So, let's see...

1) Lots of stoners
2) Gun bans

I'm foreseeing a lot of stoned hippy college chicks getting raped.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:29 PM (4df7R)

219 204If arrows can pierce armor, what's the point of wearing it? Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (6J6x7)

To prevent everything else from ventilating your pancreas.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 12:29 PM (+xmn4)

220 Offer your would-be rapist a spliff?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 12:29 PM (/kI1Q)

221 Posted by: Roscoe at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (MIovV)

Mass increases with speed, notably near the speed of light. There's a division by a square root involved, so I can't really type it out here.

Posted by: Methos at February 20, 2013 12:29 PM (hO9ad)

222 I used to be a sub-atomic particle!

Posted by: and irresolute at February 20, 2013 12:29 PM (DBH1h)

223 If arrows can pierce armor, what's the point of wearing it?

Posted by: I chase him


Not every shot is head-on.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 20, 2013 12:30 PM (Ipj15)

224 If only we could pass an amendment that said, healthcare and anything related to healthcare, including insurance for healthcare, may not be regulated.

That would solve just about everything.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:30 PM (gmeXX)

225 Unless you're being raped indoors. Or in the warm months, when violent crime increases.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (/kI1Q)



Well now you're just being Debbie Downer.


(I keed!)

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:30 PM (4df7R)

226 I'm pretty sure we can worry about SMOD or the extremely overdue total eruption of the Yellowstone volcano *way* before we look for something like this to happen...

Posted by: Miller at February 20, 2013 12:30 PM (S4iiU)

227 I tried .. all I ended up with was 30 subscriptions to 'Vibe' magazine. What am I going to do with 30 subscriptions to 'Vibe' magazine.
_
Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 20, 2013 12:27 PM (J8DGo)

At least you stayed out of the Federal Pound Me in the Ass Prison.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2013 12:30 PM (fWAjv)

228 ::lease tell me you've seen the old school Drew Carey stand up bit about this?:::

No, that's a joke we used to make when I was a kid. Back then, they stopped putting hairspray in aerosol cans and changed to spray bottles. When I was nineteen, I was working HVAC, and they changed the rules so that you had to recover freon from condenser units and "recycle" it in this handy new machine that you had to haul up on rooftops with a rope, and which cost over $50,000 and added hours to your job.

Whenever we knew we were out of sight on a roof, we would just chop open a coil with a hatchet and look up at the sky and say, "Look at that fuckin ozone hole. Open wide, cocksucker!"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:30 PM (CJjw5)

229 DENVER - Marijuana tourism is on the way to Colorado, under a recommendation made Tuesday by a state task force to regulate the drug made legal by voters last year.



Thanks to workplace drug testing, what happens in Colorado
WON'T STAY in Colorado.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:30 PM (GFM2b)

230
>>Half-Naked Ivy League Prof Opens Quantum Physics Course with 9/11 Footage, Hitler<<


The Butterface Effect.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 12:31 PM (1YIY3)

231 Team Subviral Universe Implosion is a perfectly cromulent alternative to Team SMOD.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 20, 2013 12:31 PM (VtjlW)

232 197....Jason: "Space. Herpe."

Oh shit, I remember that scene....Space Herpes!
Nasty-looking little fuckers.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2013 12:31 PM (DZbQ0)

233 "You would be unprepared to discuss, or even relate to them to ideas that you understand."

Try me.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:31 PM (zpqa2)

234 116
Settled science is a bogus term. I'm also tired of people telling me
that evolution is settled science. No - evolution is a theory, and like
all theories, has not yet been completely proven to be true. I mean this
is crap you learn in 2nd grade science class. Teach evolution all you
want, I bellieve it myself (with God's intervention) but please don't
teach students that a theory is fact, because then aren't teaching
science anymore.
*************

OK, I'll bite: name ANY bit of science you consider a fact, and then "prove" it.

If you reply, "exactly my point", please explain why you trust "science" enough that you will put your body into a large aluminum tube and let it lift you high into the air at hundreds of miles an hour.

Posted by: Zombie Einstein at February 20, 2013 12:32 PM (o6qwg)

235 The Higgs boson has attacked the smart military blog.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:32 PM (zpqa2)

236 >I'd like to see the person who gets hired.


Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:28 PM (zpqa2)

Looking for an experienced stoner

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:32 PM (8sCoq)

237 231 - No need to be an alternative. We can have both, you know. SMOD/SUI.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 12:32 PM (+xmn4)

238
Team Subviral Universe Implosion is a perfectly cromulent alternative to Team SMOD.

Yeah, but TSUI doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well as SMOD.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 12:33 PM (+z4pE)

239 Marijuana Tourism? Still beats a Carnival Cruise I guess.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:33 PM (gmeXX)

240 231 - No need to be an alternative. We can have both, you know. SMOD/SUI.
Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 12:32 PM (+xmn4)


SMOD/SUI 2016!

The only question would be jockeying over who gets to be Prez or VP.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:33 PM (4df7R)

241 Totally O/T (and pics nsfw). Mom hires strippers to give lap dances for 16 year-old son's birthday:

http://tinyurl.com/bcxvdny


If those teens were being endangered, why didn't they flee the room? How were they being "endangered" more than by watching TV?

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2013 12:34 PM (FcR7P)

242 I used to be a sub-atomic particle!

Posted by: and irresolute at February 20, 2013 12:29 PM (DBH1h)

But then you took an arrow to the knee?

Posted by: blue star at February 20, 2013 12:34 PM (rmdRH)

243 >>The good news is, that's more than "tens of billions of years off" ... probablyPlankton.

Posted by: Deety at February 20, 2013 12:34 PM (jVk2G)

244 Marijuana Tourism? Still beats a Carnival Cruise I guess.
Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:33 PM (gmeXX)


Pretty sure those Carnival cruisers would have liked a little weed while they were on that ship.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:34 PM (4df7R)

245 Well now you're just being Debbie Downer.


I know. If I only embraced hope and love and positive energy, rape would be eradicated overnight.

I really need a beer. Or cake.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 20, 2013 12:34 PM (/kI1Q)

246 195 We all grew up with their model of the atom as a collection of particles, and that model just doesn't hold up.

---------

You would prefer, maybe, a locus of probability distributions?

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 20, 2013 12:34 PM (IrbU4)

247 SUI, when shouted, has all the earmarks of an Arkansas fan.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 20, 2013 12:35 PM (+z4pE)

248 Ok, the mom getting her kid strippers story? Those aren't strippers. Those are hookers. I'll admit my experience with strippers is limited, but since when did strippers pull a standing 69 during a lap dance? And bullshit they didn't know the kids were underage.


Hookers.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:35 PM (da5Wo)

249
234 -

A math geek I know said something about how the Higgs-Boson thing was shown to have something like a 9 standard deviations confidence interval (I don't know if I'm saying that right, nor do I care), which is about as close to being proven as you can get.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 12:35 PM (TOk1P)

250 The only question would be jockeying over who gets to be Prez or VP.Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:33 PM (4df7R)

SMOD is president, because SMOD is what actually causes the SUI to occur. Also, SUI is a retard, like our current VP, so it all makes sense.

Posted by: Heralder at February 20, 2013 12:35 PM (+xmn4)

251 Yeah, but TSUI doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well


Sounds like the last sound a pubic hair makes before hitting the floor.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:35 PM (GFM2b)

252 OK, I'll bite: name ANY bit of science you consider a fact, and then "prove" it.If you reply, "exactly my point", please explain why you trust "science" enough that you will put your body into a large aluminum tube and let it lift you high into the air at hundreds of miles an hour.
---
Ok - I'll bite back. I simply want a theory to be described for what it is. No more no less. And many things can be proven.

As far as why I trust science enough to put myself in an airplane. I don't trust science. I trust my eyes.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:36 PM (gmeXX)

253 Totally O/T (and pics nsfw). Mom hires strippers to give lap dances for 16 year-old son's birthday:


So here's my question: what stripper service says, "Yeah, okay! We'll give lapdances to your 16 year-old son and his 13-15 year old friends. No problem!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:36 PM (4df7R)

254 >Thanks to workplace drug testing, what happens in Colorado

WON'T STAY in Colorado.


It seems to me that any serious employer will continue to screen applicants for drug use. Chronic pot users will fail a lot. So, it also seems to me that people who decide to get stoned on a regular basis are just saying 'fuck it' to ever getting real gainful employment.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:36 PM (8sCoq)

255 You would prefer, maybe, a locus of probability distributions?



My turtle ate your locus.

Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2013 12:36 PM (KXm42)

256 Pretty sure those Carnival cruisers would have liked a little weed while they were on that ship.



Not without enough food!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:37 PM (GFM2b)

257 Kate Upton imparts mass to my particles.

It's science.

Posted by: Phinn at February 20, 2013 12:37 PM (r9IFY)

258 So here's my question: what stripper service says, "Yeah, okay! We'll give lapdances to your 16 year-old son and his 13-15 year old friends. No problem!"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:36 PM (4df7R)

Is there a Stripper Board of Ethics to appeal to?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 12:37 PM (DrWcr)

259 Yeah, but TSUI doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well

It does, however, make me crave chop suey. And I've never had chop suey.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:37 PM (4df7R)

260 It seems to me that any serious employer will continue to screen
applicants for drug use. Chronic pot users will fail a lot. So, it also
seems to me that people who decide to get stoned on a regular basis are
just saying 'fuck it' to ever getting real gainful employment.


Just wait for the new laws that criminalize any employer refusing to hire potheads.

You know it's coming!

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:37 PM (GQ8sn)

261 Liquor control board here in WA used to have a marketing dept (even though it was a monopoly). So I wonder if their new marijuana product line is going to have a spiffy (spliffy?) marketing campaign.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:37 PM (zpqa2)

262 No, that's a joke we used to make when I was a kid. Back then, they
stopped putting hairspray in aerosol cans and changed to spray bottles.




I'm an 80's kid. I'm well acquainted with White Rain.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:38 PM (da5Wo)

263
253 -

The good kind?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2013 12:38 PM (TOk1P)

264 I have always figured that was bullshit.
Posted by: Vic at February 20, 2013 11:48 AM (53z96)


So, when was the last time you generated power for a coupla states and cities?

Posted by: Deety at February 20, 2013 12:38 PM (jVk2G)

265 :::As far as why I trust science enough to put myself in an airplane. I don't trust science. I trust my eyes. :::

When I fly, I trust my eyes and the Venturi effect, but mostly the Venturi effect.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:38 PM (CJjw5)

266 It seems to me that any serious employer will continue to screen applicants for drug use. Chronic pot users will fail a lot. So, it also seems to me that people who decide to get stoned on a regular basis are just saying 'fuck it' to ever getting real gainful employment.
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:36 PM (8sCoq)


So what you're saying is chronic pot users will continue to act like chronic pot users, but now they'll have the legal right to do so.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:38 PM (4df7R)

267 It seems to me that any serious employer will continue to screen applicants for drug use. Chronic pot users will fail a lot. So, it also seems to me that people who decide to get stoned on a regular basis are just saying 'fuck it' to ever getting real gainful employment.
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:36 PM (8sCoq)

___________________

I dunno your legislature has special talent.

They could pass a waiver for them while clamping down on all those legal concealed carry co-eds you've got out there who accidentally murder people in the campus bushes.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2013 12:38 PM (r2PLg)

268 Just wait for the new laws that criminalize any employer refusing to hire potheads.You know it's coming!
Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:37 PM (GQ8sn)

Or being a stoner will get classified as a disability under the ADA and then the employers will be fooked.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 12:39 PM (DrWcr)

269 We all grew up with their model of the atom as a collection of particles, and that model just doesn't hold up.

I think of particles as a kind of 3D matrix extending out infinitely with each cell looking like a tensor where the scalar is a probability the particle is in that state, and the twist is a cell address of where it would transition to if given a nudge.

That's probably all bullshit thouh...

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 12:39 PM (/gHaE)

270 The 80's had a lot of ecological crises. Acid Rain, Ozone layer. Its amazing we survived.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:39 PM (gmeXX)

271 When I fly, I trust my eyes and the Venturi effect, but mostly the Venturi effect.

Bernoulli effect.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:39 PM (GQ8sn)

272 :::I'm an 80's kid. I'm well acquainted with White Rain.:::

Was Peter North in that one?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:39 PM (CJjw5)

273 The zombie apocalypse won’t happen because zombies eat brains and they would starve trying to get out of Ohio. But hey, at least they could vote 5 or 6 times while they’re here….

Posted by: Buckeye malcontent at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (g+Cz1)

274 Its amazing we survived.

Myabe we didn't...and this is hell.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (/gHaE)

275 Shields...SHIELDS!!!

Posted by: Captain Sulu at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (2JyPC)

276 I'm an 80's kid. I'm well acquainted with White Rain.


Not Aquanet? *gasp!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (4df7R)

277 >>>Try me.

All subatomic particles have wavefunctions that model their behavior much more accurately than particle theory. I can't even write them here because of our lack of support for super/subscripts. If you are truly interested in learning new modeling techniques for subatomic particles, google your favorite particle (Proton in this case) along with "wavefunction". Good luck. And may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (0q2P7)

278 >Just wait for the new laws that criminalize any employer refusing to hire potheads.

You know it's coming




yeah, well watch them try to get insurance

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (8sCoq)

279 Hey, EoJ!

Did you ever watch "Goon"? Comment at your blog.

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (GQ8sn)

280 Myabe we didn't...and this is hell.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (/gHaE)

Wouldn't that make Barry Obama, oh, I don't know...maybe SAAAATAN?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 20, 2013 12:40 PM (DrWcr)

281 Quantum physics and pot thread. Cool.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:41 PM (zpqa2)

282 :::Bernoulli effect.:::

Bernoulli Principle.

Venturi Effect.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:42 PM (CJjw5)

283 Was Peter North in that one?


Ron Jeremey.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2013 12:42 PM (0kTcE)

284 282 :::Bernoulli effect.:::

Bernoulli Principle.

Venturi Effect.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:42 PM (CJjw5)

________________

Nerds.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2013 12:43 PM (r2PLg)

285 >>>That's probably all bullshit thouh...

The problem with studying particle physics is an unavoidable tendency to try and make particles adhere to familiar rules and mechanisms of interaction. This won't get you past the most basic particle theory.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 20, 2013 12:43 PM (0q2P7)

286 Does every doomsday story need to be repeated endlessly? What nonsense. Some stupid news site needs to generate some page views so they put out this crap that will be debunked within days.

Posted by: Ken Royall at February 20, 2013 12:44 PM (x0g8a)

287
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:42 PM (CJjw5)

Eh, either way, you are trusting a couple of Dagos with something that isn't a wheelbarrow..not wise.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2013 12:44 PM (ie5Rl)

288 >So what you're saying is chronic pot users will continue to act like
chronic pot users, but now they'll have the legal right to do so.


True, but no one is obligated to hire them

In fact, I wouldn't hire a pot smoker, and I wouldn't insure a pot smoker

I wouldn't rent to a pot smoker

I don't want to be friends with a pot smoker

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:44 PM (8sCoq)

289 When I fly, I trust my eyes and the Venturi effect, but mostly the Venturi effect.

Bernoulli effect.


Screw both of you.

Posted by: ice on your wing at February 20, 2013 12:44 PM (QupBk)

290 "shockwaves out into the ether"

Mheh! I'm reading "Doc" Smith's Skylark series right now.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 20, 2013 12:44 PM (tqAT4)

291
This one proton's energy was equivalent to a regulation soccer ball traveling at 15 meters per second (34 miles per hour). In the two decades following, observers spotted several similarly energetic cosmic rays, which left a big question: what was accelerating these protons to higher speeds than anything we can achieve in on Earth?
We can't go faster than 34mph? No wonder it takes so long to get to anyplace.

Posted by: harleycowboy at February 20, 2013 12:44 PM (+9AX9)

292 That 10 dimensions stuff that was posted here awhile back was interesting. That Canadian guy's blog had some cool stuff, easy to understand and envision. He also has a TED talk. Best multidimension explanation I've ever come across.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:45 PM (zpqa2)

293 Bernoulli Principle.



Venturi Effect.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff



Whatever it takes!

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2013 12:45 PM (GQ8sn)

294
Particle Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNT8SMlqLJA

Posted by: oblig at February 20, 2013 12:45 PM (ie5Rl)

295 Was Peter North in that one?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:39 PM (CJjw5)


You're probably thinking of White Thunder. Which was his first interracial movie.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:45 PM (da5Wo)

296 We can't go faster than 34mph? No wonder it takes so long to get to anyplace.

Proton are the Blue Haired Ladies of the subatomic world.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 12:45 PM (QupBk)

297 194 Q,

or go find that old standby "reversed polarity plasma coils"....

Leaving the Solar System is probably a generational ship event....

you'd need a floating city with the understanding that you'd never make it "home"....


Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:46 PM (LRFds)

298 From the mom who hired the strippers story......"About 80 people attended, including many adults who later said they were outraged by the performances."




Um....later? LATER!? They couldn't have done something about it DURING the party?! WTF?!

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:46 PM (X6akg)

299 :::Hey, EoJ! Did you ever watch "Goon"? Comment at your blog.:::

I have a blog?

Yeah - saw that. Great movie.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 20, 2013 12:46 PM (CJjw5)

300 Um....later? LATER!? They couldn't have done something about it DURING the party?! WTF?!


Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:46 PM (X6akg)


Well, I mean, it is kinda hard to do anything when you've got a couple titties bouncing off your face.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 20, 2013 12:47 PM (da5Wo)

301 274 PA,

Nah this is purgatory...

Hell is attrition, Purgatory is contrition...

this retardation is strictly voluntary.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:47 PM (LRFds)

302 I'm an 80's kid. I'm well acquainted with White Rain.

Oh fuckin Gawd!

There were entire floors of Girls Bathrooms where you couldn't get in without flaming up a full can of Aquanenet with a Bic lighter.

Jeebus, White Rain?

Don't tell me you were a wrestler.

Posted by: Deety at February 20, 2013 12:48 PM (jVk2G)

303 Higgs bosun is cool, it's the Higgs bosun's mate you gotta watch out for.

Posted by: Yojimbo at February 20, 2013 12:48 PM (l90JL)

304

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Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 20, 2013 12:48 PM (tqAT4)

305 This blog is more fun than a barrel of Higgs bosons!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 20, 2013 12:50 PM (zpqa2)

306 >Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 20, 2013 12:48 PM (tqAT4)



into the barrel, where you'll be bombarded by sub-atomic particles

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 20, 2013 12:50 PM (8sCoq)

307 Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 20, 2013 12:48 PM (tqAT4)


You have GOT to be doing that on purpose....because no matter how many times people tell you NOT to post from Word, you continue to do it.




Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:52 PM (X6akg)

308 Um....later? LATER!? They couldn't have done something about it DURING the party?! WTF?!

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I think the Dads had to untuck their shirts.

Posted by: SH at February 20, 2013 12:53 PM (gmeXX)

309
This is a Higgs-Boson free zone, because President Barack Obama, my good friend and clean articulate negro, has decreed it via Executive Order.

And the high energy cosmic rays should be used to power high speed trains.

Federal grant money will be involved, so we need our top men and women to put on their knee pads.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 20, 2013 12:53 PM (RFeQD)

310 Some people seem to enjoy The Barrel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2013 12:54 PM (UOM48)

311 He's not really there for the hunting.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 20, 2013 12:55 PM (QupBk)

312 >>>Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 20, 2013 12:48 PM (tqAT4)


As the bear said to the unsuccessful hunter, you aren't in this for the hunting are you?

Barrel. Less teeth this time.



Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 20, 2013 12:55 PM (0q2P7)

313 310 Jane D'oh,

maybe...I'm thinking it's a bot....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:56 PM (LRFds)

314 BCochran and SH, I know you're joking but really....if you were attending a party with YOUR children and this little show started, would you just stand around and be 'outraged later'? Yeah, yeah...you'd have a woody but come on....you wouldn't do or say something and drag your kid(s) out?

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 12:56 PM (X6akg)

315 The

two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity


Well your post does make a cognizant point in an unusually pertinent manner.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 20, 2013 12:57 PM (0q2P7)

316 314 Tami,

Ma'am.....

watch idiocracy.....

it's coming....

"wow Starbucks sounds really good..." says the average 2000 human....

"we don't have time for a handjob Joe..." Lawyer with a 45 IQ in 2505...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 12:59 PM (LRFds)

317 watch idiocracy.....

it's coming....

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It's here sven......

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2013 01:01 PM (X6akg)

318 317 Tami,

eh maybe...

look it's still noteworthy enough a violation of norms that it made news....

we've a ways to go before "you shit's all retarded and you talk like a f*g" stage...

I'm gonna make Gran Torino look like Mr Rogers' Neighborhood I suspect.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 20, 2013 01:03 PM (LRFds)

319
The parents were hearing about the party from the kids--they were dropped off and later retrieved.

All this crap happened not 10 miles from my house.


Watch for developing news here,it's going to get interesting.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2013 01:06 PM (SAMxH)

320 So does this mean the Universe will end with a BIG SNEEZE?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 20, 2013 01:10 PM (qyv02)

321 >>>>.165
If humanity makes it another 10K years, we'll probably figure out how to
stabilize or reverse a collapse of the false vacuum. Assuming some
other, more advanced intelligence hasn't already done the work for us<<<<<

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Electrolytes will do the trick.

Posted by: Javems at February 20, 2013 01:13 PM (nTgAI)

322 Jones in CO: "I think recent events though, indicate the most likely way we will face doom from outer space is from a really really big fucking rock."

Aliens, man. It'll be the space aliens.

Posted by: Paul Krugman, Idiot Emeritus at February 20, 2013 01:59 PM (eHIJJ)

323 252
OK, I'll bite: name ANY bit of science you consider a fact, and then
"prove" it.If you reply, "exactly my point", please explain why you
trust "science" enough that you will put your body into a large aluminum
tube and let it lift you high into the air at hundreds of miles an
hour.

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Ok - I'll bite back. I simply want a theory to be described for what it is. No more no less. And many things can be proven.



As far as why I trust science enough to put myself in an airplane. I don't trust science. I trust my eyes.
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I suspect you don't know what a scientific "theory" is. There are strong theories and weak ones; Darwin's theory of natural selection happens to be a strong one: entire fields of science depend on Darwinian principles (pharmaceuticals, antibiotics, genetic engineering, etc.) Science doesn't rely on "proof", it relies on explanatory power, recognizing that the best explanation is only that --- the best explanation , over all others....for now.

Many things can be proven? Prove one thing. Why would anyone trust their eyes? For thousands of years people's eyes told them the sun went around the earth. Look! You can watch it do that out your window!

Trust your eyes? If you did that you would have try and explain the retrograde motion of Mars, for instance. Ptolemy's epicycles "explained" them, but to get to where Copernicus got you need to engage in observation and empiricism, iow use the tools of science.

Proof is for mathematicians.


Posted by: Zombie Einstein at February 20, 2013 02:49 PM (o6qwg)

324 I'll jump into the insurance mess here. Some of ya'll remember my family's traumas from last month. And my wife was just back in the hospital for another 4 day stay, and our house got broken into last week, happy fucking new year.

On our previous plan we were out of pocket besides premiums roughly $7-10k a year, luckily my previous employer had a $7500 fsa cap so we got a good bit of tax savings from that. But come obama care and the FSA cap was lowered from infinity (employer cap) to $2500 (because you know that saves people money...).

I was lucky enough to get a new job, and they just added an HSA backed high deductible plan this year that I luckily picked. I pay about $280/mo for it (not entirely sure what employer contrib is). It has a $1500 individual / $3000 family deductible, but then 100% coverage after that (for everything medical, including scrips). We can put ~6k a year in the HSA.

So far this year, we have racked up $200k in billed medical expenses. Insurance w/ their negotiated rates has paid out $145k. We have paid $3k. So a pretty damn good plan for us.

The kibitzing comes in in that within the next few years, these plans may very well be outlawed from obama care, due to them not providing enough 'free shit'. This would put us on the hook for usually 20-30% of those costs, or $29-35k, and that's not even two full months. But you know... free shit...

It burns me up that people don't think about the money behind insurance plans. For just our past two months, it would take what, 10 'bronze' obama plan family buyers that didn't have a single claim to just break even from expenses, let alone all the staff expenditures for dealing with it all.


Posted by: Kerncon at February 20, 2013 02:55 PM (2PWuT)

325 Viral universe? Nothing to fear. This is why we have call boxes, safe zone and whistles. And don't forget Judo. We have Judo, too.

Posted by: Seattle Chris at February 20, 2013 04:34 PM (lWTGt)

326 Firstus: This universe is only here in the FIRST place because of energy fluctuations between contiguous vacuum states. Without that, we don't get separation of strong and weak nuclear forces, so we don't get the imbalance in suddenly-separated paired massless particles annihilating each other, we don't get initial field expansion for particles to occupy, so we don't get quantum fluctuations to allow for particles to interact with and become organized by fields.

Secondus: The Higgs boson doesn't add mass. The Higgs boson is simply of a low energy release byproduct of the interaction between massless particles and the Higgs field; the Higgs field is the key feature, because it allows for the Higgs mechanism. Nor does the Higgs mechanism add mass - it simply very very very briefly and very very very slightly retards the progress of some massless particles so that those now-retarded massless particles can interact with OTHER fields where they're slowed down further, converting some of the energy in those particles into mass -- thus "massive" particles.

Thirdus: Last year the Nobel Prize in Physics went to three leaders of projects that around the same time in 1998 proved that, contrary to Einstein's original belief in a 'stead state' universe, and then contrary to a later theory that the universe had stopped or would soon stop expanding and thus begin to reverse in the direction of the original singularity, the universe is continuing to expand and at an accelerated rate. THAT'S what's going to end the universe: the galaxies are racing away from each other at ferocious (sub-lightspeed) rates, which eventually will obviate the main engine of recreation, being accretion into supernovas and black holes, which means the contents of each galaxy will flake off in decay towards nothing but undifferentiated neutrinos.

Fourthus: That's if we survive the Sun going supernova, which we won't.

Fifthus: That's also if we survive the impending INEVITABLE collision of this Milky Way galaxy with our closest neighboring galaxy, Andromeda, which we are staggering unlikely to.

Sixthus: This species we belong to has only been around 6 million years, and less than 100,000 years in 'modern' form. Given the time scales involved, no humans are going to be around to see ANY of those things happen.

Seventhus: Even without all the above, the chances of a massive meteor hitting this planet in the next 100 million years are excellent, in the next 400 millions years probable, and in the next billion years almost 100%, whereupon life as we understand it will be wiped out completely or close to it.

Eightthus: Global warming's going to take us out a hell of a lot earlier than any of the above.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at February 20, 2013 06:33 PM (21TJo)

327
Reasearch done in England a few years ago has also shown that human conciousness can affect the outcome of an experiment in a statistically signifigant manner. In other words if you want Schrodingers Cat 'to be alive' when you open the box' he will be or if you want to affect the quantum state of a particle you can just by thinking about it. Sooooooo I have decided to destroy the universe. Regarding the viral subatomic instability mentioned above I will now begin to concentrate on just one string particle/wave, changing its vibratory state from what it should be, to an unstable state, to actas a seed to feed thebubble mentioned above. This will affect the Higgs field locally and thru interaction spread quickly tootherstrings cancelling them into bursts of pure energy at 100% conversion. In other words a brain activated universe killing 'string bomb'.

So goodbye cruel universe. Here's thinking of you

Posted by: Jon Brooks at February 22, 2013 12:37 AM (N55sz)






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