New Washington Proposed Law: The State Shall Have the Right to Freely Search Your Home for Guns

Outstanding.

Posted by: Ace at 03:09 PM



Comments

1 Foist?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 03:10 PM (TIIx5)

2 Got it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 03:11 PM (TIIx5)

3 Another reason I left that state in my early 20's. They LIKE this sort of thing in King County.

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 19, 2013 03:11 PM (6H6o8)

4 Ace, they dropped the language from it.

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2013 03:11 PM (fWAjv)

5 So obviously, I'm the only member of the Horde who's at work today.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 03:11 PM (TIIx5)

6 What's the constitution again?

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2013 03:11 PM (LSWcD)

7 MMMmmmmmm. Can you smell the due process?

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 19, 2013 03:11 PM (mV8sg)

8 Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. It's a small price to pay. If it saves just one life.

Posted by: huerfano at February 19, 2013 03:12 PM (bAGA/)

9 I've read elsewhere that they have removed that section from the bill.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 19, 2013 03:12 PM (+paCV)

10 'Sup

Posted by: Smells like...Fascism at February 19, 2013 03:12 PM (F6KtL)

11 It's dead, Jim.

Posted by: toby928© pontificates in oracular tones of banality at February 19, 2013 03:12 PM (evdj2)

12 Well I read further, and the writers and sponsors of the bill are now saying that section was a mistake. Riiight. I have no doubt that some of them want this.

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (8sCoq)

13 It's OK though, they didn't mean to put that in the bill. It's just an oversight, bad staff work, and an accident and how can you blame the legislators for missing it...the bill is six pages long, which is a long slog for the sort of dunce who gets elected to the Washington state legislature.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (Q9qpj)

14 The interesting part is that neither sponsor knew it was in the bill. We are ruled by retards.

Posted by: toby928© pontificates in oracular tones of banality at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (evdj2)

15 I've read elsewhere that they have removed that section from the bill.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 19, 2013 03:12 PM



I'm sure it was just an oversight that also just happened to be in the bill they tried to pass a couple of years ago.

Posted by: huerfano at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (bAGA/)

16 In LA, they have a law where the city inspects every apt every 3 years for code violations. To me it is a violation of the 4th A. But, they get away with it. It's really another way of collecting revenue by charging people for these phony inspections.

Posted by: I chase him - I bite him at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (6J6x7)

17 Everyone saying they dropped the cops coming in and searching your house...yes after the outrage...but it was a bill that has been presented before twice and the same search your homes for guns was in it. So they just got caught. This wasn't a mistake.

Posted by: Tacoma at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (F6KtL)

18 Never pass laws you can't enforce and never pass taxes you can't collect. It just makes you look stupid.

Posted by: navybrat at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (7zvJ4)

19 >So obviously, I'm the only member of the Horde who's at work today.




I would be at work if I had work to be at

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (8sCoq)

20 They might have removed it but it does say a lot about the tendency to fascism and totalinarianism the left has.

Posted by: General Woundwort at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (RrD4h)

21 Whether the language was removed or not...this is how the lefties think...about EVERYTHING. It doesn't matter if it makes any sense as long as there is a box that you have to stay in and bureaucracy to maintain the box.


Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 19, 2013 03:14 PM (LYIrp)

22 I have a welcome mat at my house.
It says "Come back with a warrant."

Posted by: navybrat at February 19, 2013 03:14 PM (7zvJ4)

23 @16 code violation inspection = fishing for bribes, am I right?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 19, 2013 03:14 PM (Q9qpj)

24 Well, you gotta pass it to see whats in it you dumb turds

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at February 19, 2013 03:15 PM (F6KtL)

25 Someone linked an article where the omega male writer was upset such a thing was "accidently" put in the bill. It meant the death of "sesible gun control" bill.
Apparently sensible means the banning of any firearms they don't like.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 19, 2013 03:15 PM (uhftQ)

26 We were just thinking of the chillllllrrrrrrunnnnnn.

Posted by: The Washington Legislature at February 19, 2013 03:15 PM (8ZskC)

27 I volunteer to inspect for guns hidden in panty drawers.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 19, 2013 03:16 PM (7SwK/)

28 Good news everybody! The police are no longer going to be able to enter your house without probable cause. But, you will have to get a tv that allows us to watch your every move.

Posted by: Wasghington INGSOC party at February 19, 2013 03:16 PM (mV8sg)

29 Think of it as a 'visitation tax'.

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:16 PM (FcR7P)

30 I thought I read somewhere that some bureaucrat stuck that clause in there with out anyone's knowledge after the fact. Now A) Not sure I believe that B) it still shows the mindset of liberals. And thank G-D someone actually read that bill, unlike obamacare which you had to pass to find out what's in it. Needless to say I hate all liberals.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2013 03:16 PM (9Bj8R)

31 Derp! Derp! Derp!

Posted by: The Washington State Legislature at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (Q9qpj)

32 Well, it's the logical outcome of what they want. But of course it's for the children.

Posted by: joncelli at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (RD7QR)

33 Updated bill - Page 7 Line 21


http://tinyurl.com/a6jtqyx


Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (fWAjv)

34 Further proof why the common law is a much better legal framework from civil law.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (gmeXX)

35 That'll teach those nasty Tea Party types not to FUCK with KARL MUTHAFUCKIN ROVE!

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (UzocF)

36 Yaaay, we can hate something else other than each other!


I repeat my comment from this morning that some enterprising reporter who wants to do real reporting could have a lovely little series exposing the fact that Our Betters, from city council on up, neither write nor read the laws for which they vote.


Hmmm, what shall we call my proposed Constitutional amendment? How about RTFBYMFMFs. I like it!

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (VtjlW)

37 I really don't understand this. How will they enforce this? I hope all the pressure will finally backfire in the liberal leaderships faces. At some point even the dumbest fucking voters have to recognize the government is evil.

Posted by: gigg at February 19, 2013 03:18 PM (41VCE)

38 I didn't really even get the tip in your mouth. It just overflowed.

Posted by: Fritz at February 19, 2013 03:18 PM (UzPAd)

39 The state can kiss my lily white ass.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:19 PM (7xPCu)

40 Perhaps they could require the homeowner provide a room for the deputies to stay in, in order to monitor and prevent any further law breaking?

For the children.

We could call these special rooms for these agents of the states "quarters" for convenience.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 19, 2013 03:19 PM (VjL9S)

41 How about RTFBYMFMFs. I like it!
Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (VtjlW)

Mother F'er Mother F'er?

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2013 03:19 PM (fWAjv)

42 Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle...said he did not know the bill authorized police searches because he had not read it closely before signing on.

And he's one of the co-sponsors. Legislators too busy to read an eight-page bill they sponsor? What else are they not reading?

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:19 PM (FcR7P)

43
Further proof why the common law is a much better legal framework from civil law.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (gmeXX)






Either that, or "Rule 303".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (TIIx5)

44 Ace,

You really should correct the previous post. The Politico article, that you didn't read, makes it clear that the TEA Party Patriots *did NOT* send that pic of Rove.

J.D. Norman, a partner at Active Engagement, said his company took full responsibility for including the image.

“It was a mistake that we made. It was not a mistake that went through Tea Party Patriots,” he told POLITICO. His firm handles “tens of millions of emails over the course of a month or so for each independent client,” he said. “We’re trying to look into how it happened to prevent it in the future.”


Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (Ipj15)

45 We shouldn't get too far out on the limb concerning this until we check with Rove.

Posted by: jwest at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (ZDsRL)

46 That democrats would even try to sneak this through says a hell of a lot about their view of basic human rights.

Warrantless home searches for citizens who are not suspected of breaking any law, authorized if they own a type of legal firearm? I suppose only if they register that firearm?

How in the hell is that going to prevent crime? The lawless aren't being searched, and police would be wasting their time harassing the law abiding.

Posted by: Dustin at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (D9999)

47 Either that, or "Rule 303".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (TIIx5)


Does that have something to do with a Colorado area code?

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (7xPCu)

48 "Ace, they dropped the language from it."

Is the former presence of that language thus to be meekly ignored?

Or viewed as, yet again, a slip of the mask wherein real intentions are made manifest.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (gqT4g)

49 That unfortunate event in your mouth was placed there by a staffer.

Posted by: toby928© pontificates in oracular tones of banality at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (evdj2)

50 Mother F'er Mother F'er?
Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2013 03:19 PM (fWAjv)


I think it's "Mother F'ing Mother F'ers." AtC, care to clarify?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (4df7R)

51 I encourage liberals to pass more of these bills. It makes it much easier to simply state that the Democrats are coming to take your guns, which is a political winner for the GOP (if only they'd use it). Don't get stuck on nuance. Just keep repeating that the Dems want to come and take your guns. Now when they say give us one example, well here you go.

Tip for the GOP - stay on point. Don't get bogged down on registrations, magazine size, assualt weapons. Just mention that the Dems want to take away your guns. Nuance is lost on the low information voter.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (gmeXX)

52 Just say Know.

Posted by: MoJoTee at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (e1kfW)

53 Wow.

I thought David Frum was nuts when he made this suggestion.

He is supposedly worried about people not storing their guns correctly and his logic went something like--

if the police can pull over your care on the highway because it is unsafe, then they should be able to check if you store your guns in a proper fashion.


Problem is David Frum is euphemistically going to legal gun owner's homes in Texas where the murder rate is low --and not to the homes where there is a high murder rate..

essentially he is only interested in harassing legal gun owners and he is not interested in the murders of a certain class of people.

What they are really doing is encouraging people to acquire their guns illegally--and strengthening the criminals position in our society.

Posted by: tasker at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (r2PLg)

54 I would be at work if I had work to be at

How do you feel about filling out the same spreadsheets over and over?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (/kI1Q)

55 OT: I see that there has been a new spree killing in California. Four dead. My educated guess: The Piers Morgan serial Killer got a lot of good publicity and this guy wanted some more of the same.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (Hx5uv)

56 RTFBYMFMFs
Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (VtjlW)
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Read The F*ucking Bill You MotherF*cking Mother F*uckers?
If so, it's got pizzazz, I like it.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (mV8sg)

57 Jones in CO @ 12-
You are exactly right. It was no no mistake. They were called on a blatant grab. They'll put it right back in, though.

Posted by: EROWMER at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (kxlCQ)

58 It's sad, but I just assumed AWB was already in place in Washington.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (NzBQO)

59 I repeat my comment from this morning that some enterprising reporter who wants to do real reporting could have a lovely little series exposing the fact that Our Betters, from city council on up, neither write nor read the laws for which they vote.

There was a story somewhere recently to the effect that the Senate Dems who co-wrote ObamaCare are horrified by what *other* Senate Dems put into it and so they're all trying to distance themselves from the end result.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (B/VB5)

60 OT

Tammy Bruce ‏@HeyTammyBruce

Chris Christie==> “I’m not much different from Andrew Cuomo. I probably agree with him on 98% of the issues.” http://bit.ly/15sNWKf

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (8sCoq)

61 Is the former presence of that language thus to be meekly ignored?

Or viewed as, yet again, a slip of the mask wherein real intentions are made manifest.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (gqT4g)

Most certainly not ignored, Libs are really showing their ass lately.

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (fWAjv)

62 But, but....reading rqeuires effort.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (uhftQ)

63 making illegal search and seizure legal. of course.

Posted by: L, elle at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (0PiQ4)

64 A new amendment to the bill would allow you to forgo the inspection if you install a wi-fi enabled trigger lock that would be remotely disengaged on approval by a vote of the state senate.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 19, 2013 03:23 PM (+lsX1)

65 Here's the thing.

It was a "mistake" and yet the Seattle times notes:
"[Murry] said he came to realize that an assault-weapons ban has little chance of
passing this year anyway. So he put in this bill more as “a general
statement, as a guiding light of where we need to go.” Without sweating
all the details."

So it's a mistake, but it's a guiding light?!

WTF does that mean? (It means "mea culpa that the mask slipped.")

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 19, 2013 03:23 PM (kLNMp)

66 Even if it passed, I sure wouldn't want to be the cop assigned to home inspection duty. It would be the most dangerous job a cop could ever have.

Posted by: Weew at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (0FcyN)

67 There was a story somewhere recently to the effect that the Senate Dems who co-wrote ObamaCare are horrified by what *other* Senate Dems put into it and so they're all trying to distance themselves from the end result.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (B/VB5)

I'm waiting to see how the average libtard will say when confronted with the fact that the Dems own the disaster that is Obamacare lock, stock and barrel (ooh, scary gun talk!!). How to blame Republicans?

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (7xPCu)

68 Posted by: tasker at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (r2PLg)

Yup.... Guns.... uh... boating accident.... such a shame...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (lZBBB)

69 It follows that Registered gun owners who's home would be the first inspected. Short ride to all households just to make sure they didn't have unregistered guns.

They can inspect my home...once. Wonder how long it will take the inspector's buddies to find out he/she has not reported back to work?

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (YYyqq)

70

> 46 ...and police would be wasting their time harassing the law abiding.


FEATURE, not a bug.

That's the POINT. They want to harass gun owners so much that they'll voluntarily give up their guns to avoid the hassles.

That process is further along in Los Angeles.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (mJkp9)

71 OT: I see that there has been a new spree killing in California. Four dead. My educated guess: The Piers Morgan serial Killer got a lot of good publicity and this guy wanted some more of the same.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2013 03:21 PM (Hx5uv)

At least this shooter offed himself instead of leading cops on a week-long manhunt. Though I'd have preferred it if the shooter had chosen to kill himself BEFORE kiling anyone else.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (4df7R)

72 And he's one of the co-sponsors. Legislators too busy to read an eight-page bill they sponsor? What else are they not reading

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You don't have this problem with the common law. Law is made slowly over time, and sure bad facts lead to bad law, but I'm convinced the unintended consequences supposedly from good legislation far exceeds the lapses that exist in the common law.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (gmeXX)

73 hmmm, I wonder if the constitution has anything to say about unreasonable searches and seizures...yup, it's there.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (QxSug)

74 66 Even if it passed, I sure wouldn't want to be the cop assigned to home inspection duty. It would be the most dangerous job a cop could ever have.
Posted by: Weew at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (0FcyN)

Instead of a knock on the door, it will be a SWAT raid.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (7xPCu)

75 Less weed. . .
More civil liberties.

Posted by: looking closely at February 19, 2013 03:24 PM (6Q9g2)

76 Gun control isn't going to pass in WA.

Posted by: Justin at February 19, 2013 03:25 PM (yoAYX)

77 WTF ?! How does that not violate both the 2nd AND the 4th amendments ?

Are they really this retarded ? You cannot directly violate one amendment to the constitution by virtue of wanting to violate another.

Seriously, WTF ?

Posted by: deadrody at February 19, 2013 03:25 PM (b2D8X)

78 Which reminds me that I'd go on a rant about how the 4th Amendment is dead, dead, dead (Fuck you, Sandra Day O'Conner and your "of course DUI checkpoints are constitutional" and all the other "war on drugs" bullshit) but I'm too tired of all this shit.

Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 19, 2013 03:25 PM (VjL9S)

79 Police search my home? There's an armed standoff in the making.

Posted by: Whatev at February 19, 2013 03:25 PM (A7Wh1)

80 Just like England; to own a hunting rifle or shotgun, they give the police the right to search your house unannounced without a warrant.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at February 19, 2013 03:26 PM (kqqGm)

81 He is supposedly worried about people not storing their guns correctly and his logic went something like--

Just a thought I had yesterday- you're supposed to keep your gun in a safe and ammo somewhere else (in another safe?). If you have time to put your legs on (a la Oscar Pistorius) get your gun out, go get your ammo, etc. wouldn't a defense lawyer use that as proof that you weren't in immediate danger? That you should have used a call-box?

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:26 PM (FcR7P)

82 @60: I'm perfectly fine with Chris Christie being who he is and doing what he does, so long as he stays put in hellNew Jersey and keeps doing it.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 19, 2013 03:26 PM (B/VB5)

83 Deadrody - yes they are, all Democrats want to take away your guns.

See - its a simple message that every GOP politician should memorize.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:26 PM (gmeXX)

84
Law in your home, but this is "a secret":

http://tinyurl.com/bad37lq

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 19, 2013 03:26 PM (p/cQy)

85 65 Here's the thing.

It was a "mistake" and yet the Seattle times notes:
"[Murry] said he came to realize that an assault-weapons ban has little chance of
passing this year anyway. So he put in this bill more as “a general
statement, as a guiding light of where we need to go.” Without sweating
all the details."

So it's a mistake, but it's a guiding light?!

WTF does that mean? (It means "mea culpa that the mask slipped.")

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It means "It's red meat for our supporters and not a real bill, so never mind that we tried to violate the 2nd and 4th Amendments like the NRA said we would!"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 19, 2013 03:26 PM (e0xKF)

86 All you rah-rah 2nd amendment fanboyz.....meh.




/ace

Posted by: Tami at February 19, 2013 03:27 PM (X6akg)

87 And next? As more people are killed by Blunt Objects such as Bats, and Hammers, then are killed by Rifles each Year???

We must register your sports equiment, and tools, and have Police inspect those every year for Blood Traces...

Tiger Woods.... Hardest hit...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 19, 2013 03:27 PM (lZBBB)

88 77 WTF ?! How does that not violate both the 2nd AND the 4th amendments ?

Are they really this retarded ? You cannot directly violate one amendment to the constitution by virtue of wanting to violate another.

Seriously, WTF ?
Posted by: deadrody at February 19, 2013 03:25 PM (b2D8X)

It's hard to overestimate how stupid the average Democrat is...they not only voted for the retard-in-chief, they damn near worship him. What more evidence is needed?

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:27 PM (7xPCu)

89 Instead of a knock on the door, it will be a SWAT raid.

I'm picturing the State Security raiding Sam Lowry because of unauthorized repair of his ducts.

Brazil was a prophecy.

Posted by: toby928© pontificates in oracular tones of banality at February 19, 2013 03:27 PM (evdj2)

90 The sponsor of this bill admitted that it was "likely" unconstitutional.

NO. FUCKING. SHIT.

This bill is no more than 10 pages long and they can't catch this kind of shit.

Bring it the fuck on you stupid leftist dummy idiots. You're time's a comin....

God knows the truth but waits.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 19, 2013 03:27 PM (tVTLU)

91 Yup.... Guns.... uh... boating accident.... such a shame...
Posted by: Romeo13
***

We know you're lying.

Posted by: The Federal Government at February 19, 2013 03:27 PM (uhftQ)

92


Yep, they are just asking for a fight.

Liberals inciting violence. What's new.

Posted by: beachie keen at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (LpQbZ)

93 How many amendments are we going to trash? for the children.

Posted by: real joe in blue state hell at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (YN6gk)

94

Hey, those words just jumped into the bill all by themselves!

Posted by: Meremortal at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (1Y+hH)

95
I'm picturing the State Security raiding Sam Lowry because of unauthorized repair of his ducts.

---

Probably closer to Archie Buttle getting fatally interrogated because a bug in the typewriter screwed up the warrant for Archie Tuttle.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (e0xKF)

96 Hmmm, what shall we call my proposed Constitutional amendment? How about RTFBYMFMFs. I like it!

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 19, 2013 03:17 PM (VtjlW)


Didn't even have to think about what it stood for. Too much time here or just enough?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (da5Wo)

97 Molon Labe Bitches. Fortunately I live in a sane state (NC). If they pass something like that here, there will be blood shed.

Posted by: TC at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (vYB+W)

98 We know you're lying.
Posted by: The Federal Government at February 19, 2013 03:27 PM (uhftQ)


No, we're simply framing our responses from a differently-truthful perspective.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (4df7R)

99 Guys I hate to break this to you, but Democrats don't really care about the 2nd amendment. Frankly, they aren't that fond of the 1st. Not all republicans are either.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (gmeXX)

100 Add the 5th amendment to the violations, if you have to reveal that you own a gun, which will lead to illegal searches.

Posted by: navybrat at February 19, 2013 03:29 PM (7zvJ4)

101 If the very laws being proposed and passed are illegal, where does that leave a law-abiding citizen? At some bureaucrat's whim.

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:29 PM (FcR7P)

102 They must have overturned the 4th amendment by mistake in the rush to overturn the 2nd.

Posted by: sluggo at February 19, 2013 03:29 PM (4mcFB)

103 meanwhile in NYS ther's a bill requiring 1 million in liabilty insurance if you own guns.

Posted by: moron at February 19, 2013 03:30 PM (Ae28/)

104 No, we're simply framing our responses from a differently-truthful perspective.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit
***

Stop copying us.

Posted by: The Federal Government at February 19, 2013 03:30 PM (uhftQ)

105 Guys I hate to break this to you, but Democrats don't really care about the 2nd amendment. Frankly, they aren't that fond of the 1st. Not all republicans are either.
Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (gmeXX)


Big Gubmint types don't like the Constitution, period, because it limits the power of the federal government. Any limits on the federal gubmint are limits on their dreams.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:30 PM (4df7R)

106 99 Guys I hate to break this to you, but Democrats don't really care about the 2nd amendment. Frankly, they aren't that fond of the 1st. Not all republicans are either.

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They should have gone for the Quinella by suggesting that the homeowners should provide housing for the cops searching their house and that any comments made against the law would mean they are guilty of something.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 19, 2013 03:30 PM (e0xKF)

107 37 I really don't understand this. How will they enforce this? I hope all the pressure will finally backfire in the liberal leaderships faces. At some point even the dumbest fucking voters have to recognize the government is evil.
Posted by: gigg at February 19, 2013 03:18 PM (41VCE)


I used to think that.

I don't anymore.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at February 19, 2013 03:31 PM (Nu0D9)

108 Really, the poster above is correct. The best response, or rather, the winning response to any question to a Republican about firearms is to say The Democrats want to seize your guns. They will say they don't, but they are lying. Nothing else. If asked for proof, simply repeat it again.

Posted by: toby928© pontificates in oracular tones of banality at February 19, 2013 03:31 PM (evdj2)

109 Either that, or "Rule 303".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (TIIx5)


Now we are all Breaker Morant.

Posted by: Simple little gray field mouse at February 19, 2013 03:31 PM (3sZO1)

110 If I were paranoid I would think that the Libs are trying to incite another Timothy McVeigh so that they can justify the gun grab. Good thing I'm not paranoid.

Posted by: L, elle at February 19, 2013 03:31 PM (0PiQ4)

111
"Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. It's a small price to pay. If it saves just one life."

I guess we're not counting the lives that will be wasted when, invariably, some of these "inspections" go sideways and the inspectors and/or inspectees get in the way of some copper jacketed ballistic unpleasantness.

That's different. Those people are something other.

Posted by: Karl at February 19, 2013 03:31 PM (4I3Uo)

112 Away, sock, I beg of you

Posted by: Bill H at February 19, 2013 03:31 PM (3sZO1)

113 The only amendment the democrats like is the 8th because they are offended when achild rapist is executed.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:32 PM (gmeXX)

114 Now we are all Breaker Morant.

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Shoot straight, you bastards. Don't make a mess of it.

Posted by: Breaker Morant at February 19, 2013 03:32 PM (e0xKF)

115 Off NaziRINO sock

Posted by: Jaws at February 19, 2013 03:32 PM (4I3Uo)

116 Stop copying us.
Posted by: The Federal Government at February 19, 2013 03:30 PM (uhftQ)


I'm not copying you. I'm simply using government parsing to express my views via peer-reviewed best practices.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:32 PM (4df7R)

117 Read The F*ucking Bill You MotherF*cking Mother F*uckers?
If so, it's got pizzazz, I like it.
Posted by: Darth Randall at February 19, 2013 03:22 PM (mV8sg)



Got it in one.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 19, 2013 03:32 PM (VtjlW)

118
Either that, or "Rule 303".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (TIIx5)





Does that have something to do with a Colorado area code?

***

I will tell you that now that gun control has passed the house and idiotic Prog politicians are saying idiotic things, Colorado has been Californicated.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2013 03:32 PM (Hx5uv)

119 Officer Daniel Harless got his job back.


Can we use him to test out how this search would work???


Please!!!!

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (fWAjv)

120 I used to think that.

I don't anymore.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at February 19, 2013 03:31 PM (Nu0D9)___ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ___ ___ ___ ____ ___ _____ ___ _Right. North Korea wasn't built in a day you know....

Posted by: Meremortal at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (1Y+hH)

121 I'm simply using government parsing to express my views via peer-reviewed best practices.

Ah, Science.

Posted by: toby928© pontificates in oracular tones of banality at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (evdj2)

122

Kinda OT, but I can't stop thinking about the piece on how intelligence is declining through the ages.

Think about how dangerous this is in every aspect of our lives. From your children's bus driver, to your mechanic, to your nurse, to your pilot, etc. To the folks that are supposed to make our water and food safe, etc.

There still are cultures that lean on teaching skills, and pushing hard in the sciences and engineering. We aren't one of them.

But, also in national security.

Remember how we all felt on 9/11? The thought, how could this happen?

Posted by: beachie keen at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (LpQbZ)

123 They can fill an inside straight if they go for the 3rd Amendment (runs to internet...). Quartering of soldiers. Ok, I think we're safe from that one.

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (FcR7P)

124 Only once a year is the new just the tip.

Posted by: no good deed at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (mjR67)

125

Have none of you noticed the juxtaposition of this post and the post below?

Karl Rove is not a Nazi...but his words and actions certainly do help the Nazis such as those in Washington.

(Yes, Virginia, there are Nazis in America.)

-- "Never, ever find yourself parroting the Left."

Rule #1 in the Book of Rules on How To Defeat Democrats

Posted by: soothsayer at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (0w+w3)

126
Its not that they will enforce something like this, its just that they want the ability to do it in case you don't fall in line.

Its about making everybody a criminal.

The only way to control an innocent man is to make being innocent a crime.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (p/cQy)

127 So the fourth amendment is collateral damage in libs' violation of the second amendment. It's almost like a govt. that gets away with ignoring one fundamental right will feel unrestrained in ignoring others.

Posted by: Bud Norton at February 19, 2013 03:34 PM (6cOMd)

128 Washington State is drowning under a Cal-tard invasion.

This is what happens when you let excessive libertarianism blind you to the obvious benefits of throwing Californian immigrants into giant scorpion pits.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:34 PM (wYVte)

129 Got it in one.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 19, 2013 03:32 PM (VtjlW)


Why, it's almost like you want purity in the Constitutionally proscribed duties of our elected leaders.


We won't stand for that around here. No we won't.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 19, 2013 03:34 PM (da5Wo)

130 Front page of the LA Times this morning:
http://tinyurl.com/a4b4rmd

CA is sending teams of armed men to seize guns from owners disqualified after purchase on misdemeanor charges.

It has begun.

Posted by: epobirs at February 19, 2013 03:34 PM (kcfmt)

131 Either that, or "Rule 303".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (TIIx5)





Does that have something to do with a Colorado area code?

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:20 PM (7xPCu)





Not exactly.

Posted by: Zombie Harry "Breaker" Morant at February 19, 2013 03:34 PM (TIIx5)

132 So many cold dead hands.

Posted by: toby928© from the future at February 19, 2013 03:34 PM (evdj2)

133 I guess we're not counting the lives that will be wasted when, invariably, some of these "inspections" go sideways and the inspectors and/or inspectees get in the way of some copper jacketed ballistic unpleasantness.

Most sheriffs' departments are staffed by regular dudes, not the kind of psycho killers who join police departments, so that would probably only happen a few dozen times.

Posted by: oblig. at February 19, 2013 03:35 PM (cePv8)

134 Really, the poster above is correct. The best response, or rather, the winning response to any question to a Republican about firearms is to say The Democrats want to seize your guns. They will say they don't, but they are lying. Nothing else. If asked for proof, simply repeat it again.

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Toby yes, yes, and yes. And not because it is my idea. It is the low informatoin voter we are after. Don't get stuck in nuancewith them.And don't worry about repeating things. If you say it over and over, sooner people will believe it. And in this case it is the truth.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:35 PM (gmeXX)

135 Didn't even have to think about what it stood for. Too much time here or just enough?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 19, 2013 03:28 PM (da5Wo)



I'm just going to put this bell jar next to you to make sure.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 19, 2013 03:35 PM (VtjlW)

136 6
What's the constitution again?

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2013 03:11 PM (LSWcD)

It's the thing making all the murders in my city.

Posted by: Chicago Chief of Poleese at February 19, 2013 03:35 PM (wR+pz)

137 so, what this also is is universal search warrants. IDK, but there are 250M guns out there, so maybe 1/2 the country (or the state in this case) would be subject to this,.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 19, 2013 03:35 PM (QxSug)

138 The stupid is particularly strong with the Leftists in this state. Speaking as a resident and firsthand observer, that is. Think "perpetual facepalm."

Which is really sad because, as usual, once you get away from the progressive wasteland of Seattle/King County, the state is rather normal. In fact, I think it's only behind VA when it comes to gun ownership.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 19, 2013 03:35 PM (zpqa2)

139 I think this is agood idea and states should do this. That way we can better protect the children form idiots like Bush and Cheney.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at February 19, 2013 03:36 PM (IkHXL)

140 They can fill an inside straight if they go for the 3rd Amendment (runs to internet...). Quartering of soldiers. Ok, I think we're safe from that one.
Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:33 PM (FcR7P)


Depends. Once the subsidized housing for the Free Shit Army runs out and nobody can build anymore because there's no money to invest in the materials and the environmental impact statements, I can guarantee you that the gubmint will start "calling on" the "better situated" members of society to take in some of the welfare cheats lest they freeze/starve/die ofhepatitis on the streets.

Different kind of troops, but still an army.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:36 PM (4df7R)

141 AtC,
In addition to your RTFBYMFMF proposal, I'd like to see some fucking version control on these bills so we can see who put what fucking section in when and hold their ass responsible. None of this bullshit 'some staffer' or 'some other Congress crtter' did it.

Posted by: J. Random Dudes phone at February 19, 2013 03:37 PM (d42/G)

142 In just 5 years.. wow.

Obama has turned us into a quasi-fascist state with the propaganda ministry filtering all news to make dear leader look good.

The headlines are just unbelievable

With the gov't buying shitloads of ammo, I'm not optimistic about our future. I mean really.. WTF is going on here? Any so called journalists care to put any of this on the front page? What a bunch of cowards


Posted by: Just the Facts at February 19, 2013 03:37 PM (m6Fkk)

143
The Democrats want to sieze your guns.

Why else would they make Doctors ask us if we have guns in our homes?

Posted by: wheatie at February 19, 2013 03:37 PM (DZbQ0)

144

The next try will be:

"Why does anyone need to hunt when we have grocery stores?"

Posted by: Meremortal at February 19, 2013 03:37 PM (1Y+hH)

145 CA is sending teams of armed men to seize guns from owners disqualified after purchase on misdemeanor charges.

It has begun.


The article says it's been going on for five years. Makes sense, too. After all, if you've committed a misdemeanor, why would you have any more need for a gun? Or locks on your door, for that matter.

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:38 PM (FcR7P)

146 110 If I were paranoid I would think that the Libs are trying to incite another Timothy McVeigh so that they can justify the gun grab. Good thing I'm not paranoid.
Posted by: L, elle at February 19, 2013 03:31 PM (0PiQ4)


He didn't use a gun, and you can still buy fertilizer, fuel oil and rent a moving van.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:38 PM (7xPCu)

147
What's this got to do with The Tea Party and Karl Ro.....

Hey, wait a minute. You're trying to distract us!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 19, 2013 03:38 PM (TOk1P)

148 >>102
They must have overturned the 4th amendment by mistake in the rush to overturn the 2nd.

The 4th is already gone. All that is left is a fancy facade. "check this box, mark this line: Search approved!"

>>113
The only amendment the democrats like is the 8th because they are offended when achild rapist is executed.

Point of order: I believe they see the 16th as most awesome.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 19, 2013 03:38 PM (VjL9S)

149 I would be at work if I had work to be at


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 19, 2013 03:13 PM (8sCoq)

I feel your pain, I am just waiting till the 28th when my SS check comes in.
Does it pay my real estate tax or my club bill? Good question.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at February 19, 2013 03:38 PM (wR+pz)

150 >the obvious benefits of throwing Californian immigrants into giant
scorpion pits.


can the pits also be on fire?

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 19, 2013 03:39 PM (8sCoq)

151
"Molon Labe Bitches. Fortunately I live in a sane state (NC). If they pass something like that here, there will be blood shed."

Sadly we are of a race of otherwise-intelligent life that cannot manage to correct bad ideas early on in their cycle. We apparently prefer for them to become Really Fucking Bad Ideas that require the spilling of each other's insides onto the ground before a solution is reached.

We suck. C'mon down, SMOD.

Posted by: Jaws at February 19, 2013 03:39 PM (4I3Uo)

152 It is the lower level Democrats--the twenty and thirty year old staffers who put this into the bill--that are going to cause the greatest threat to liberty.

Broken record on my part--basically, we have got to be ready to break away, by force if necessary, if any balance is going to be brought back to the system. And it can't be a bluff, though it does not have to be the preferred outcome. It doesn't have to be this way, but the GOP is useless unless they are made to get a little bolder. This will help.

Chew on it for a while, because there are a number of years available, but don't take two decades to do so. Right now, with this brand of conservatives we have now, we'd still be arguing over whether or not Parliament had the right to tax us without representation. That is going to have to change.

Posted by: V. at February 19, 2013 03:39 PM (sAg1K)

153

Someone needs to photshop Karl's head onto Jabba The Hut.

Viral in 45 minutes...

Posted by: Meremortal at February 19, 2013 03:39 PM (1Y+hH)

154 Next Ace post: Kate Upton... Hot or Not?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 19, 2013 03:39 PM (TOk1P)

155 there are 250M guns out there, so maybe 1/2 the country (or the state in this case) would be subject to this,.

The new traffic stop:
"License and Voter's Registration, please..."

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:40 PM (FcR7P)

156 Toby and SH:

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!! Keep it fucking simple stupid.

Leftists want to take your guns and destroy the Second Amendment. Everything they say is a lie.

REPEAT. AND REPEAT. AND FUCKING REPEAT.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 19, 2013 03:40 PM (tVTLU)

157 Mexico is not so bad. Just lay back and get used to it, because that's the legislative end game for the left. Not Sweden, not Canada.... Mexico. Just with fewer donkeys.

Posted by: wooga at February 19, 2013 03:40 PM (7SwK/)

158 He didn't use a gun, and you can still buy fertilizer, fuel oil and rent a moving van.
Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:38 PM (7xPCu)


Means and method don't matter to the Left. They'd use any kind of violence to justify a gun grab, on the basis of, "Imagine if s/he'd used GUNS. The carnage would have been even worse!" Which, depending on the situation, may or may not be total bullshit. These assholes thrive on bullshit. They eat it up like weeds in a pasture.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R)

159 The mask slipped for a second, don't ignore it.

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2013 03:40 PM (0cUd9)

160 It's a mistake.

Posted by: Men at Work at February 19, 2013 03:41 PM (A2iqW)

161 Lets just be consistent with allowing people as much personal freedom as possible. It shouldn't just apply to fire arms.

(yes, I am slowly mutating into a troll)

Posted by: Eaton Cox at February 19, 2013 03:41 PM (+wxCD)

162 150 >the obvious benefits of throwing Californian immigrants into giant
scorpion pits.


can the pits also be on fire?
Posted by: Jones in CO at February 19, 2013 03:39 PM (8sCoq)

We should try to pass an amendment that preempts California's request for a federal bailout: Pissed away all your money, did you? Sell that eyesore Yosemite to developers, then we'll talk.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:41 PM (7xPCu)

163 He didn't use a gun, and you can still buy fertilizer, fuel oil and rent a moving van.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:38 PM (7xPCu)

Actually not. You can not purchase large amount of fertilizer unless you can show you are a fucking farmer. You also have to show ID to buy simple fertilizer that you can use to melt ice.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at February 19, 2013 03:42 PM (wR+pz)

164 Someone needs to photshop Karl's head onto Jabba The Hut.

****

Finally, some sense in a senseless world.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 19, 2013 03:42 PM (+I8Mq)

165 146, Hell the only reason they caught him was that he had a gun. No gun, he gets a warning for the plate and rolls into the mist.

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2013 03:42 PM (0cUd9)

166 Leftists want to take your guns and destroy the Second Amendment. Everything they say is a lie.


____


And ..... apparently..... they'll sacrifice the 1st and the 4th ammendment to destroy the second.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 19, 2013 03:42 PM (nELVU)

167 model_1066: We should try to pass an amendment that preempts
California's request for a federal bailout: Pissed away all your money,
did you? Sell that eyesore Yosemite to developers, then we'll talk.


Strip their citizenship and indenture them.

Put them in shock-collars and make them work off their debt. Or sell a kidney or something.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:43 PM (wYVte)

168 This is why when you come to visit the Clemenza's you have to enter the door through a cattle chute with very high side walls,,,,

Posted by: Clemenza at February 19, 2013 03:43 PM (x59Gv)

169 Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at February 19, 2013 03:42 PM (wR+pz)

But it's not banned. There's a difference.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:43 PM (7xPCu)

170 "Which reminds me that I'd go on a rant about how the 4th Amendment is
dead, dead, dead (Fuck you, Sandra Day O'Conner and your 'of course DUI
checkpoints are constitutional' and all the other 'war on drugs'
bullshit) but I'm too tired of all this shit."

Ah, yes, Sandra Dee.

One of Reagan's worst missteps ever.

Ed Lazarus, a former SCOTUS clerk, has written witheringly about how her only real judicial philosophy turned out to be "O'Connorism", rather than any fidelity to bedrock principle.

What is the law? Why, silly, it's what one woman in a black robe happens to think best at a particular place and time, no more and no less. It's the same arbitrary judge-as-philosopher-queen shit we see today from female follow-ons Ginsberg and Sotomayor and Kagan, except with the added horror of a supposedly conservative imprimatur. O'Connor paved the way.

Cue Lazarus:

"For example, her views on abortion rights
(and ultimately the Court's, as she was a swing vote) were entirely
dependent on her view of whether a challenged regulation imposed an 'undue' burden on a woman's right to choose. Similarly, whether
government support for religion violated the Establishment Clause
depended in large part on O'Connor's personal view of whether the
government could be seen as 'endorsing' the religious practice at issue. ... In effect, O'Connor's jurisprudential style reduced an awful
lot of important questions to her own personal judgment, as well as her
sense of the public's mood."

Yep. In many ways we are still suffering the consequences of that crummy choice, and we will for long decades yet to come.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2013 03:43 PM (gqT4g)

171 Or sell a kidney or something.

****

All their kidneys are ruined by this point

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 19, 2013 03:44 PM (+I8Mq)

172
'Washington State is drowning under a Cal-tard invasion."

Solution: Work toward specifically outlawing CA emigrees from voting in their new states of residence. Hell, it isn't any less Constitutional then the rest of the shit we're doing lately, so why not?

Living Document for the win!

Posted by: Jaws at February 19, 2013 03:44 PM (4I3Uo)

173 Leftists want to take your guns and destroy the Second Amendment. Everything they say is a lie.

I would almost recommend leaving out the part about the 2nd Amendment. Yes it's true, but it means little to the idiots except what they've heard through their MFM propaganda masters.

"Leftists want to take your guns. They'll say they don't, but they're lying." Boom. Full stop.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:44 PM (4df7R)

174 They're still hacking at each other down site. Oh the humanity.

Posted by: toby928© from the future at February 19, 2013 03:44 PM (evdj2)

175 Jeeze, go get a cup of coffee and there's 150 comments.

What's the end game here? They really expect to pass this? They really think it would hold up at the supreme court? Obama just trying to stir 'stuff' up and see how it works out? Is this just a negotiating ploy for universal background checks and covert registration?

I'm going with universal background checks, with overly restrictive conditions (think mental health issues deny clearance to purchase), and covert registration? Anyone else?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 19, 2013 03:44 PM (Mix/J)

176 @ 163 save your bacon grease IYKWIM

Posted by: Clemenza at February 19, 2013 03:44 PM (x59Gv)

177 Fertilizer restrictions.


http://tinyurl.com/anmvk7a

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at February 19, 2013 03:45 PM (wR+pz)

178 172: No. Scorpion pits are the correct answer.

Stop going full retard libertarian.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:45 PM (wYVte)

179 We really need to be honest and realize things are fucked up to the point that only a cleansing burn can begin the restoration. We need to embrace this, and speed it up.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 19, 2013 03:46 PM (zpqa2)

180 Someone needs to photshop Karl's head onto Jabba The Hut.

****

Better yet, onto Leia's body.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 19, 2013 03:46 PM (+I8Mq)

181 And somehow the media and commies have convinced the "low information voters" (i.e. ignoramuses) that conservatives are the fanatic totalitarians despite ALL evidence to the contrary. *sigh*
Guess I could try to see it as a liberal: 2nd amendment + 4th amendment = 6th Commandment. Thou shalt not kill, thus we must, to quote President Andrew Shepherd, "go door to door and get the guns." Racist dolts.

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at February 19, 2013 03:46 PM (F3Ima)

182 @ 177 no shortage of bullshit in Washington..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 19, 2013 03:46 PM (x59Gv)

183 Proud resident of King County, WA....NOT!!!


I hate my blue, blue state. Asshat Californians moved up here in the late 80's and early 90's and turned us into a fricking Commie state. They made our housing market shoot up to unaffordable prices and they ruined this once great state.

Posted by: runningrn at February 19, 2013 03:46 PM (Ag5D2)

184 Hey , does this uniform make my head look fat?

Posted by: Karl Rove at February 19, 2013 03:46 PM (AWmfW)

185 And he's one of the co-sponsors. Legislators too busy to read an eight-page bill they sponsor? What else are they not reading?



Underage Dominican hookers birth certificates?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 19, 2013 03:47 PM (GFM2b)

186 I would almost recommend leaving out the part about the 2nd Amendment. Yes it's true, but it means little to the idiots except what they've heard through their MFM propaganda masters.

---

MWR - I agree. I'm not even sure I would include the they are lying part, because people don't like it when you call someone a liar. Just say they want to take away your guns. That's it.

Posted by: SH at February 19, 2013 03:47 PM (gmeXX)

187 After reading how Republicans are working with Democrats on the size of magazines that we may be blessed to own, I'm out with the exception of using my Republican voter card to purge incumbents and simply stay away from the general elections.

Forget all of this long game whooey, how they need to be in power so my voice is heard.Fug em.

Posted by: Drider at February 19, 2013 03:48 PM (HaJD9)

188 SH, agreed.

It would also help if this snafu were covered in the MSM and not hidden away on a few conservative blogs. Good luck with that one.

Posted by: RM at February 19, 2013 03:48 PM (/Frlf)

189 Better yet, onto Leia's body.
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 19, 2013 03:46 PM (+I8Mq)


Why would you do that to poor fanbois? Why would you doom their favorite masturbatory material in that way? I can think of few things less arousing than Karl Rove's pudgy face, especially on Slave!Leia's body. And I'm a chick!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:48 PM (4df7R)

190 I hate my blue, blue state. Asshat Californians moved up here in the
late 80's and early 90's and turned us into a fricking Commie state.


Caltards have to go somewhere when they have be-shat their beds into unusability.

This is what the scorpion pits are for.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:48 PM (wYVte)

191 I'm going with universal background checks, with overly restrictive conditions (think mental health issues deny clearance to purchase), and covert registration? Anyone else?


Yeah, mental illness that can be determined from brain scans (Oblahblah's next great scientific venture) and close scrutiny of your party affiliation and political donation records...

Posted by: runningrn at February 19, 2013 03:48 PM (Ag5D2)

192 CA is sending teams of armed men to seize guns from owners disqualified after purchase on misdemeanor charges.

It has begun.

Posted by: epobirs at February 19, 2013 03:34 PM (kcfmt)



yet, they can still vote several times for the same marxist pr*ck, and not get thrown in jail (see drudge from a.m.)

Posted by: beachie keen at February 19, 2013 03:49 PM (LpQbZ)

193
"No. Scorpion pits are the correct answer.

Stop going full retard libertarian."

My bad. I should have known Bond Villian solutions are truly and always the best solutions.

Posted by: Jaws at February 19, 2013 03:49 PM (4I3Uo)

194 I'm change, eternal.

Posted by: Stalin at February 19, 2013 03:50 PM (AWmfW)

195 Yeah, mental illness that can be determined from brain scans (Oblahblah's next great scientific venture) and close scrutiny of your party affiliation and political donation records...
Posted by: runningrn at February 19, 2013 03:48 PM (Ag5D2)

Being a Californian Democrat is clear evidence of being mentally ill.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:50 PM (7xPCu)

196 Yeah, mental illness that can be determined from brain scans (Oblahblah's next great scientific venture) and close scrutiny of your party affiliation and political donation records...
Posted by: runningrn at February 19, 2013 03:48 PM (Ag5D2)


Not to mention your web browsing habits and email history. Hi, Google!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:50 PM (4df7R)

197 Jaws: Bond villain solutions only fail when you let that Bond retard alone.

Break all four of his limbs first. THEN throw him in the scorpion pit.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:51 PM (wYVte)

198 The sides of the scorpion pits need to be steep enough to prevent escape

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 19, 2013 03:51 PM (8sCoq)

199
"Do you have guns in your home?"

Isn't this what Doctors are supposed to be asking their patients now?

What does this have to do with 'Healthcare'?

Of course the Dems want to take our guns.
Why else would they make this a part of O-care?

Posted by: wheatie at February 19, 2013 03:52 PM (DZbQ0)

200 And don't set it on fire, dammit. That is too hard on the poor scorpions.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:52 PM (wYVte)

201 At least in WA you can still vote after you're dead. There's that.

Unfortunately, that means my late Dad now votes Democrat.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 19, 2013 03:52 PM (zpqa2)

202 Break all four of his limbs first. THEN throw him in the scorpion pit.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:51 PM (wYVte)


Wouldn't it be better to cut his limbs OFF, then chuck him into the scorpion pit? He could survive broken limbs, but I imagine the blood loss coupled with the venomous sting of however many scorpions would be a bit too much.

Oh, and make sure you sit there and actually WATCH him die. And once he's dead, shoot him in the head to be sure.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:53 PM (4df7R)

203 "Do you have guns in your home?"

Me: "Are you aware that that question is something called a medical ethics Boundary violation? And that the medical ethics board in this severly red state will cheerfully yank your license to practice for it? And that I have this scorpion pit waiting for you?"

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:54 PM (wYVte)

204 There should also be an unnecessarily slow dipping mechanism to lower people into the scorpion pit

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 19, 2013 03:54 PM (8sCoq)

205 We still need to introduce Scorpion Pit legislation here in Wyoming.

I'll get right on it.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:55 PM (wYVte)

206 203 "Do you have guns in your home?"


And how many people in the US die annually from medical mistakes? 200,000? Yeah, let's worry about guns, doc.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:56 PM (7xPCu)

Posted by: ET at February 19, 2013 03:56 PM (YpjaN)

208 I keep pounding the table on this, but even smart dems are realizing that zero is fucking them over without any care about politics.

Zero is done in 4 years. Dems will have to live with the disastrous fucking consequences of this guy.

From gun banning to obamacare, there is a whirlwind coming. Can you feel it? Can you??? Everyone knows something isn't right.

They are letting the mask fall on a fundamental issue. Sets up fucking perfectly.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 19, 2013 03:56 PM (tVTLU)

209
"Break all four of his limbs first. THEN throw him in the scorpion pit."

Not the least bit sporting, are you old chap?

I mean, "Kristophr" is a good Bond Villian handle and all. You know, vaguely foreign with a few missing vowels and such. But you're obviously no Auric Goldfinger. You should reassess your motivations as a bad guy and maybe start small. Perhaps extorting Girl scout cookie money or something.

Posted by: Jaws at February 19, 2013 03:56 PM (4I3Uo)

210 model_1066: And how many people in the US die annually from medical mistakes? 200,000? Yeah, let's worry about guns, doc.

Only four people have been killed by scorpion stings in the past 11 years in the US. We need to correct this imbalance.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:58 PM (wYVte)

211 Jaws: Only if they are Californian Girl Scouts.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:59 PM (wYVte)

212 210 model_1066: And how many people in the US die annually from medical mistakes? 200,000? Yeah, let's worry about guns, doc.

Only four people have been killed by scorpion stings in the past 11 years in the US. We need to correct this imbalance.
Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:58 PM (wYVte)

I was thinking more along the lines of 'physician, heal thyself'

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 03:59 PM (7xPCu)

213 This correlates nicely with the article reporting that the Mexican government is now asking the U.S. to provide it with a list of all registered gun owners in U.S. states that border Mexico.

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Observer at February 19, 2013 03:59 PM (/sohm)

214 They are doing this on purpose, all of these radical far reaching, unconstitutional proposals...gun confiscation, home searches, insurance...etc.... it's so all of the low info dip shits will see the proposal from the TFG as reasonable and not so bad ...


Posted by: ET at February 19, 2013 03:59 PM (YpjaN)

215 ""Do you have guns in your home?""


"Isn't this what Doctors are supposed to be asking their patients now?"

More precisely, it's what doctors are _required under federal law with federal consequences_ to be asking their patients now. Doctors who don't comply face things like reimbursement denials and could even hypothetically be struck off.

Although given the way that Obamacare is forcing doctors out of private small practices and into large institutional affiliations, don't expect too much pressure to hit the doc directly. The government will instead quietly pressure the administrators of the institutions, dependent on federal dollars, who will then bring back-channel pressure on doctors to comply with the federal diktat.

Note that you as a patient can decline to answer this or any other question. There is apparently a standard entry now on electronic medical records indicating such a nonresponsive response from you.

However, this then means that every federal bureaucrat then knows there are certain subjects about which you are reticent to respond. And you go into a bunch of databases, logged accordingly.


Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2013 04:00 PM (gqT4g)

216 This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when Elaine asked to see her chart. The doctor refused and proceeded to log the exchange on her chart.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 19, 2013 04:02 PM (zpqa2)

217 I mean, "Kristophr" is a good Bond Villian handle and all.

Says the guy whose handle is the only two-movie henchman.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 19, 2013 04:03 PM (GBXon)

218 Model-1066: Seriously ... Medical ethics boundary violation.

I pointed this out when an OHSU clinic handed me one of those forms, and the forms suddenly all disappeared.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 04:03 PM (wYVte)

219 However, this then means that every federal bureaucrat then knows there are certain subjects about which you are reticent to respond. And you go into a bunch of databases, logged accordingly.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2013 04:00 PM (gqT4g)


This is why I lie.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 04:03 PM (4df7R)

220 ""Do you have guns in your home?""

"Me: 'Are you aware that that
question is something called a medical ethics Boundary violation? And
that the medical ethics board in this severly red state will cheerfully
yank your license to practice for it?'"

Good luck with that. Federal law trumps state law. And the requirement to ask about guns in the home is now a federal law.

You might manage to get that doctor's license pulled at the state level, but what would follow would be a monster lawsuit, which they would win hands down.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2013 04:04 PM (gqT4g)

221
"They are letting the mask fall on a fundamental issue. Sets up fucking perfectly."

Awwwww. It's so cute when they're still optimistic.

Posted by: Jaws at February 19, 2013 04:05 PM (4I3Uo)

222 Colorado House approves all four gun-control measures.

• Limit gun magazines to 15 rounds.
• Require background checks for all gun transactions.
• Ban concealed weapons on college campuses.
• Impose a fee for gun buyers to cover the cost of their background checks.


Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2013 04:05 PM (fWAjv)

223 And how many people in the US die annually from medical mistakes? 200,000?

Iatragenic deaths are much, much higher than that. If I recall, it's our third-leading cause of death.

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 04:06 PM (FcR7P)

224 torquewrench: This isn't federal law. This question is an Obama suggestion, not law.

Obama's encounter with the good idea fairy will not prevent the state medical board from starting an inquiry.

When I raised a stink about it at OHSU, I got a personal apology form the Unversity's head medical ethics instructor.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 04:07 PM (wYVte)

225 Colorado House approves all four gun-control measures.
• Limit gun magazines to 15 rounds.
• Require background checks for all gun transactions.
• Ban concealed weapons on college campuses.
• Impose a fee for gun buyers to cover the cost of their background checks.


Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2013 04:05 PM (fWAjv)


Fucking ASSHOLES.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 04:07 PM (4df7R)

226 "Do you have guns in your home?"

Write this down: "Fuck Obama.". And with that, I have willingly and truthfully supplied you with an answer.

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 04:08 PM (FcR7P)

227 Break all four of his limbs first. THEN throw him in the scorpion pit.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 03:51 PM (wYVte)



Wouldn't it be better to cut his limbs OFF, then chuck him
into the scorpion pit? He could survive broken limbs, but I imagine the
blood loss coupled with the venomous sting of however many scorpions
would be a bit too much.



Oh, and make sure you sit there and actually WATCH him die. And once he's dead, shoot him in the head to be sure.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 19, 2013 03:53 PM (4df7R)






Ah, Operation Rasputin.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 19, 2013 04:09 PM (TIIx5)

228
"Says the guy whose handle is the only two-movie henchman."

So I should know of which I speak, yes? And who the hell are you to question my orthodonture anyway?

Posted by: Jaws at February 19, 2013 04:09 PM (4I3Uo)

229 Dr. awkward's medical questionaire .
Do you have guns in your home ?
If not , why not ?

Posted by: awkward davies at February 19, 2013 04:10 PM (USjX1)

230 Illtemperedcur: Only a good option in winter.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 19, 2013 04:11 PM (wYVte)

231 The left likes to redefine words to their benefit. From now on, since I live in Colorado which has legal weed, I'll just define 'gun' as an anagram of 'nug'. Done deal.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 04:17 PM (7xPCu)

232 Hellz, yeah doc I have some badass nugs in my house!

Posted by: model_1066 at February 19, 2013 04:18 PM (7xPCu)

233 I don't care if "they took it out".

For that to happen, they had to have "put it in there in the first place."

"They" thought it, they wrote it, they passed it.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 19, 2013 04:35 PM (X/+QT)

234 #139- die in a fire, you vile right-wing troll. Of course dangerous weapons need to be searched for and confiscated. Then right-wing hate manuscripts like anything by Hitler, Palin, Rove, or that idiot Bush, not that that dumb cowboy wrote his own book except to scribble notes in crayon. He's so stupid. And America was stupid to vote for him. And most of you would vote for him again, which is why you need to be re-educated.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 19, 2013 04:35 PM (jCQ+I)

235
You right wing tin foil hat conspiracy theory kooks. Of course nobody is going to come to your house to take away your guns. Anybody that thinks that is a possibility is totally unhinged. Sounhinged in fact they ought to have their guns stripped.

Posted by: California Red at February 19, 2013 04:40 PM (cB0VK)

236 fair warning gun grabbers: "following orders" will not be an excuse at your trial but rather an admission of guilt.

Posted by: No Feet Johnson at February 19, 2013 04:44 PM (KHo8t)

237 the state will freely have the right to go fuck themselves...

illegal laws are just that: illegal.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 19, 2013 05:12 PM (8MasJ)

238 "However, this then means that every federal bureaucrat then knows there are certain subjects about which you are reticent to respond. And you go into a bunch of databases, logged accordingly."

In this sort of situation it's better to simply lie.

Alternately, answer nonresponsively to other random subjects with a different set of replies each visit. They could still see a pattern eventually but it takes a bit more work. Also, it's fun.

Posted by: GalosGann at February 19, 2013 05:33 PM (T3KlW)

239 Anyone have some 8 inch diameter pvc pipe, and astringent packs? I'm retrenching a sewer line.

On my brother's farm.

In another county.

After I strew the ground with bolts and nuts.

Posted by: Xenophon at February 19, 2013 05:42 PM (JNMaY)

240 42
Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle...said he did not know the bill authorized
police searches because he had not read it closely before signing on.



And he's one of the co-sponsors. Legislators too busy to read an eight-page bill they sponsor? What else are they not reading?

Posted by: t-bird at February 19, 2013 03:19 PM (FcR7P)

Note that he is lying about this, too. This same warrantless search provision was included in similar bills he sponsored in 2005 and 2010. Link in sig.

Posted by: assault flounder at February 19, 2013 05:55 PM (Kkt/i)

241 Do you have guns in your residence? Nope, they're out in the car.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at February 19, 2013 06:25 PM (qwK3S)

242 BTW, universal background checks made it out ofWashington house committee today with the deciding vote coming from an R, a retired cop, Rep. Mike Hope.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at February 19, 2013 06:27 PM (qwK3S)






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