The Sportsman's Guide to DOOM

DOOOOM

His Majesty the King can generate all kinds of euphemisms about how and why we're running up our nation's debt: "investing in the future", "borrowing from ourselves", "betting on the American worker". What we're really doing is stealing from our children and generations yet unborn. It might be different if we were actually building a better world for them to live in, but we're not: we're squandering the money like a drunken sailor on a three-day liberty. We've pissed all our own money away, and now we're pissing theirs away too, and on trifles. Vacations, new cars, fancy dinners, retirement living that we didn't save enough money for. It's child abuse of the rankest and worst sort. We're selling our own children and grand-children into debtor's prison. They're going to hate us for it, and they have a right to.

We're spending our children's money without giving them any say or vote in the process. We are promising their future labor, their future wealth, their future lives, to back up our own foolish debts. We are making their future lives meaner and smaller and more constrained because we could not govern ourselves properly. It makes me angry. It makes me furious. It makes me want to apologize to everyone under the age of twenty or so for what we are doing to them. We would do well to think about this: the young people will not simply obligingly labor forever as beasts of burden, content to pay the debts run up by their foolish elders. Sooner or later they'll grow wise, and tell the greybeards to go pound sand. There'll be a reckoning, and the geezers aren't going to like it one bit.

"Fiscal trouble ahead for most future retirees", frets the Washington Post. "Fiscal trouble ahead", indeed. That's like referring to pneumonic plague as a little tickle in the throat. Here's some grim numbers for you:

The consequence is that the nation is facing a huge retirement savings deficit — as much as $6.6 trillion, or about $57,000 per household, according to a U.S. Senate report.

Using data on household finances collected by the Federal Reserve, the Center for Retirement Research estimates that 53 percent of American workers 30 and older are on a path that will leave them unprepared for retirement. That marks a sharp deterioration since 2001, when 38 percent of Americans were at risk of declining living standards in old age. In 1989, 30 percent faced that risk.

My own feeling is that the whole concept of "retirement" is simply untenable and will either fade away or collapse abruptly (depending on what happens in the larger economy). It's a nice idea to take twenty or thirty years off at the tail-end of your life to travel and enjoy yourself, but it turns out that this really isn't sustainable when you have more retirees than workers. If you can save enough money during your working life to take it easy, then go ahead. Otherwise you'll have to keep doing what every other human being has had to do throughout human history. You'll have to get up every morning and go to work.

I wish I could budget the same way the government does. Step 1: I'll declare that I plan to spend a million dollars on a new summer home next year. Step 2: I'll check my bank account and realize that my large debt and two hundred dollar checking account won't support that kind of expenditure. Step 3: I'll declare the million-dollar-house project defunct. Step 4: I just saved a million dollars off of next year's budget! I'm an economics genius!

There's an old saying: success has a thousand fathers, but failure is always an orphan. (There's another one, more particular to this situation: Rats always desert a sinking ship.)

Democrats love to raise taxes...until the higher taxes apply to them, and then all of a sudden it's an outrage or something. (Remember: no one bothered to define who was "rich" and who wasn't, and that was deliberate. If you want higher taxes on "the rich", you can just keep defining down what "rich" means.)

European GDP takes a swan-dive into the potty. As someone or other said, the Eurozone situation is beginning to look like they sacrificed the patient to save the tumor.

The "red state vs blue state" metaphor never sat well with me. I've always thought it was really more "rural America versus urban America", and this piece provides some evidence for that claim. The liberalization of America has corresponded more or less exactly with the urbanization of America.

His Majesty the King is peddling a dangerous fantasy about the debt crisis. And yet...many of His Majesty's loyal subjects prefer sweet lies to harsh truth, which is why His Majesty is still sitting on the throne.

calico cat with blaze

Posted by: Monty at 08:12 AM



Comments

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DAY 104

1,356 to go (1,431 to Inauguration Day 2017)


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:14 AM (XkWWK)

2 I love Doom threads.

Posted by: Invictus at February 18, 2013 08:14 AM (OQpzc)

3 Monty to the rescue. Can I put the news links here Monty?

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:14 AM (53z96)

4 What? No Morning thread?

Preznit's Day, right?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:14 AM (XkWWK)

5 His Majesty the King can generate all kinds of euphemisms


Is that what they calling lying now?

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:14 AM (53z96)

6 we're squandering the money like a drunken sailor on a three-day liberty.

Come on now. That's kind of unfair to drunken sailors. At least they earned their money.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 18, 2013 08:15 AM (NF2Bf)

7 That cat is destined for Alextopia.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 08:15 AM (l86i3)

8 G'mornin Monty.

We were thinking we wouldn't see a cob before at least the crack of noon.

Posted by: Tomas de Torquemada O.P. at February 18, 2013 08:15 AM (1V3hm)

9 We are promising their future labor, their future wealth, their future lives, to back up our own foolish debts.



And Wilson and FDR did it to us before him.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:15 AM (53z96)

10 Today we celebrate the birthday of Georgebraham Lincongton, the firsteenth president of the United States, who either freed the country or was the father of his slaves, I'mnotsurewhich.

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 08:16 AM (MMC8r)

11 So is that cat Beal or Loki?

To use do-gooders and mono-colored trash, they all look alike.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:16 AM (XkWWK)

12 The consequence is that the nation is facing a huge retirement savings
deficit — as much as $6.6 trillion, or about $57,000 per household,
according to a U.S. Senate report.



Piss on their report. I am more concerned with what the Senate is doing NOW. I am on a fixed income and their inflation is killing me.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:17 AM (53z96)

13 I'm glad I never figured on retiring, Nothing lost.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 08:17 AM (l86i3)

14 If anyone cares, the NRA is offering lifetime memberships for $300. Not sure how long it will last though. I signed up this morning.

Posted by: Jaimo at February 18, 2013 08:19 AM (9U1OG)

15 we're squandering the money like a drunken sailor on a three-day liberty.

Disagree. Drunken sailors spend their own money. Obama is like a crack-whore who rolled a john, stole his wallet, and is maxxing out his credit cards.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 08:19 AM (QXlbZ)

16
I'm glad I never figured on retiring, Nothing lost.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy
Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 08:17 AM (l86i3)

I retired 6 years ago; pre-Obama.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:20 AM (53z96)

17 I'm currently reading Max Weber's "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism" for a grad history class. Kind of dense, prose wise, so here is the short version: WASPs became the driving force behind Germany, England and the U.S. because, unlike non-WASPs, they see hard work and thrift as a duty from God. Doesn't really apply to individuals, but it is apparently a discernible trend over the last 150 years or so.

So what we're seeing, especially in Europe and England but even over here, is the de-Weberization of Western Civilization. No one wants to work anymore, they just want to sit around on their ass and get their free money from the guvmint, who just needs to tax those damned "rich Republicans" more.

Yeah, lots of Doom! in that book....

Posted by: Pave Low John at February 18, 2013 08:20 AM (ilDAt)

18 Retiring, shit I'm hoping that Walmart brings back the greeter position. I might need the extra money.

Posted by: Jaimo at February 18, 2013 08:20 AM (9U1OG)

19 Monty to the rescue. Can I put the news links here Monty?

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Vic, go ahead. I'm not sure what's going on with the morning link-dump -- it may appear later.

Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 08:21 AM (G8OwX)

20 Vic, go ahead. I'm not sure what's going on with the morning link-dump -- it may appear later.
Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 08:21 AM (G8OwX)

Well, that's a definite maybe.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 08:21 AM (l86i3)

21 OK here goes

Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, February 18, 2013. (BS President's Day) On this day in 1885 The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was first published. And if Disney had its way you would not be able to get it for free from Gutenberg now. Thanks to Disney US Copyright law is the strictest in the world. 75 years after the death of the holder. Disney died in 1966 so Mickey will remain copyrighted until 2041. If we still have a US then they will probably change the law to 150 years after death.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:24 AM (53z96)

22 RIP Cindy McCready at 37. Self-inflicted gunshot wound. Technically she was barred from owning a gun.

http://is.gd/rmjgnk

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:24 AM (53z96)

23 More fallout from stupid SCOTUS rulings. WTC bomber suing over solitary confinement. Also fallout from Bush not lining them all up against a wall and shooting them.

http://is.gd/CEi32a

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:24 AM (53z96)

24 MM restores alcohol content after backlash.

http://is.gd/ryROhv

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:25 AM (53z96)

25 Yaaaay Doom!

We are making their future lives meaner and smaller and more constrained because we could not govern ourselves properly. It makes me angry. It makes me furious.

You know, I actually have claimed Absolute Moral Authority when ranting about this topic since I don't have kids (and thus will have no grandkids) so that takes care of any claims I'm just whinging about my family. It's wrong. What we are doing to kids today, their kids and their kids' kids is flat out wrong. This is one of those topics where only the Interpretative Dance of Rage can encapsulate how I feel about it.


There are far too many people who truly seem to believe that the United States can simply go bankrupt. Hell, I've had people smirk at me and say hey what are our lienholders going to do, come here and take the stuff. When I say yes, then hahaha you're so crazy if you think the Chinese are going to declare war. History, how does that work?


& I must say, by government accounting, I saved around $250,000 last year by closing out the tab with my bluefly cart before hitting order. Go me!

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 18, 2013 08:25 AM (VtjlW)

26 Press is mad at Obama for sneaking off to play secret golf with Tiger Woods. Will they quit kissing his ass? Not a chance.

http://is.gd/DYRO7S

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:25 AM (53z96)

27 This is what happens first when the Muzzzies take over a country.

http://is.gd/sjBCdq

http://is.gd/xJdmLd

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:25 AM (53z96)

28 Iowa Governor tells Rove to stay out of Iowa primaries.

http://is.gd/lxQP86

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:26 AM (53z96)

29









PALM CITY, Florida (Reuters) - President Barack Obama saw firsthand how golf is played at the highest level on Sunday, teeing off with Tiger Woods, the world's No. 2 golfer who is rebuilding a once-squeaky clean image tarnished by a messy 2010 divorce.

Obama, an avid weekend golfer, and Woods, who won his
75th title last month, played together for the first time at the
exclusive Floridian Yacht and Golf Club, which was surrounded by a
cordon of security.






His Majesty won't rest until everyone who wants a job gets a job. And he is a part of the 99%

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2013 08:26 AM (1Jaio)

30 Is Obama playing politics with military budget cuts as this article says, or is he simply using it as a tool to destroy the military?

http://is.gd/GapkYY

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:26 AM (53z96)

31 Are Americans abandoning Facebook?

http://is.gd/NehX9V

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:27 AM (53z96)

32 Heritage looks at the case against Hagel. But it doesn’t really matter, thanks to RINO crossovers like McShitty he will be confirmed.

http://is.gd/Q0DMms

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:27 AM (53z96)

33 What we are doing to kids today, their kids and their kids' kids is flat out wrong.
Posted by: alexthechick


It's okay, we're doing it FOR the children.

Posted by: Bruce at February 18, 2013 08:27 AM (kWnMH)

34 Does MPPPP have the day off? I always love to read his story of the day with breakfast.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2013 08:27 AM (OevbG)

35 The Daily Deals

http://is.gd/8LANz7

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:27 AM (53z96)

36 BTW, Amazon has the second book in the SOT series for free right now (Kindle - The Stone of Tears)

http://is.gd/EreRdV

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:28 AM (53z96)

37 17 WASPs became the driving force behind Germany, England and the U.S. because, unlike non-WASPs, they see hard work and thrift as a duty from God.


Posted by: Pave Low John at February 18, 2013 08:20 AM (ilDAt)


Historically, Jews have always been driven by this same work ethic as well the pursuit of higher education. Today? Not so much.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:28 AM (XkWWK)

38 Wow! I will get to see Mickey Mouse out of copyright by the time I'm 54!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more Assault & at February 18, 2013 08:28 AM (FsUAO)

39 That cat is destined for Alextopia.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamlessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at February 18, 2013 08:15 AM (l86i3)



I was wondering where Monty got a picture of my familiar. I mean, if I had a familiar, which I don't, that's what it would look like. If I had one. Which I do not.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 18, 2013 08:28 AM (VtjlW)

40 And now I waits

http://is.gd/WHABE5



And that’s it for a cold damn Monday here. Noty much out there today which is normal.


Thanks Monty

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:28 AM (53z96)

41 Monday DOOM is the doomiest.

Posted by: eman at February 18, 2013 08:28 AM (7gJzD)

42 Are Americans abandoning Facebook?

Europe has always been their stronghold. Americans are generally accepting that I've never had an FB account, but Europeans are reliably incredulous.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2013 08:29 AM (OevbG)

43 And that kitteh reminds me of the old Star Trek episode with the two-tone aliens,

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:29 AM (53z96)

44 You know, if they were going to confirm Hagel anyway, then they just should have asked a couple of questions and let it go.

NOW everyone knows he's a complete moron and an anti-Semite, which is not good for national security.


Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 08:30 AM (GoIUi)

45 40
And now I waits

http://is.gd/WHABE5

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Linky no worky.

Posted by: Tami at February 18, 2013 08:30 AM (X6akg)

46 43 And that kitteh reminds me of the old Star Trek episode with the two-tone aliens,
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:29 AM (53z96)

Morning Vic. See my post at # 11.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:30 AM (XkWWK)

47 Ya, well, I lived in a broken down dodge pick up truck for a year out in the dessert, so I'm comfortable living the hobo lifestyle.

You sissyfied urbanites are gonna suffer though.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 18, 2013 08:31 AM (Nyb+H)

48 Are Americans abandoning Facebook?

http://is.gd/NehX9V

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:27 AM (53z96)



I hope so. I'd like to see that Obama loving little douche crash and burn

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2013 08:31 AM (1Jaio)

49 #43 Vic, that's what I thought of as well, that old Star Trek show.

The champion terrier at Westminster last week had that same type of marking on the face.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 08:31 AM (GoIUi)

50 Happy Birthday, George Washington! (I know, it's REALLY the 21st, but the federal workers !1!!!1!)

I'm celebrating by going to Mount Vernon today (free admission in his honor) and to a Civil War exhibit at the Library of Congress.

And a bonus plus--all the DC parasites will not be in town today.

If you're working today, remember, it's only to benefit your betters. Or better yet--it's for the CHILDREN-- and pre-school for all.

An aside--I don't think I've had a President's Day off work in over 10 years. This is weird.

Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 08:31 AM (A5iH4)

51 48 Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2013 08:31 AM (1Jaio)

I've abandoned it for just over a year and it allows me more time to be here! Win!

Anyway, I use LinkedIn but now I hear that FB is planning on buying it (if they haven't already) so that will suck mightily if they do.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:32 AM (XkWWK)

52 Linky no worky.


Posted by: Tami at February 18, 2013 08:30 AM (X6akg)


????? Works for me.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:32 AM (53z96)

53 California Police Chief: “One issue that always boggles my mind is that the idea that a gun is a defensive weapon. That is a myth. A gun is not a defensive weapon.”


http://scoamf.us/6Z

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 08:33 AM (QXlbZ)

54 47 Ya, well, I lived in a broken down dodge pick up truck for a year out in the dessert, so I'm comfortable living the hobo lifestyle.

You sissyfied urbanites are gonna suffer though.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 18, 2013 08:31 AM (Nyb+H)


What dessert did you live in; apple pie or creme brűlée?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:33 AM (XkWWK)

55 So, not only am I fucked, but my girls are too. That's the awesomest.


On the upside, as I was driving into the family business, that my family didn't build, at 0 dark 30 this morning, one of our local sports talk radio guys went FUCKING OFF on Obama about his weekend golfing excursion.




*waves*

Your Terrible and Beautiful Majesty

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 18, 2013 08:33 AM (da5Wo)

56 Morning Vic. See my post at # 11.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:30 AM (XkWWK)

Was that their names? It has been so long since I saw that I can't remember those details.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:34 AM (53z96)

57 ????? Works for me.


Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:32 AM (53z96)


Weird....I get a 404 - file not found.

Posted by: Tami at February 18, 2013 08:34 AM (X6akg)

58 53 Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 08:33 AM (QXlbZ)

A gun is only a defensive weapon when you're out of bullets and throw it at the guy attacking you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:35 AM (XkWWK)

59 I get the dreaded 404, too.

Posted by: Retread at February 18, 2013 08:35 AM (zxitI)

60 Nothing quite like a little DOOM on a Monday. Sigh... Life is a swirling, sucky eddy of despair, with taxes.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at February 18, 2013 08:35 AM (71LDo)

61 56 Was that their names? It has been so long since I saw that I can't remember those details.
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:34 AM (53z96)

Played by Lou Antonio and the great Frank Gorshin.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:35 AM (XkWWK)

62 George Washington's Birthday is Friday. One has to remember how they combined the real holidays so they could cram in MLK commie day.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:36 AM (53z96)

63 Anyway, I use LinkedIn but now I hear that FB is planning on buying it
(if they haven't already) so that will suck mightily if they do.


That would be a mountain of suck. LinkedIn got me my current job which I love, and several friends and family members have had similar experiences with it.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2013 08:37 AM (OevbG)

64
"It makes me want to apologize to everyone under the age of twenty or so for what
we are doing to them"
Knock yourself out, but two facts remain; 1) they voted for the Won, and 2) your rants @ the older set are stupid, silly, and unwarranted. If you wish to bi*** about unfunded future liabilities, then your beef is w/those currently "middle aged". Kinda makes the rest of your posts hard to take seriously...

Posted by: Jess1 at February 18, 2013 08:37 AM (lbiWb)

65 My son was at the ISFLC Libertarian-Fest in DC this past weekend. He met Gary Johnson (Really Old, but strong handshake), Justin Amash (Great Guy), and Ann Coulter (Total Bitch). He was also invited to apply for an internship at one of the Libertarian think tanks.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 08:38 AM (QXlbZ)

66 I've abandoned it for just over a year and it allows me more time to be here! Win!



Anyway, I use LinkedIn but now I hear that FB is planning on buying
it (if they haven't already) so that will suck mightily if they do.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:32 AM (XkWWK)



I hadn't heard about FB buying Linkedin. Linkedin sounds wildly successful, I'm not sure why they'd sell to that creep

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2013 08:38 AM (1Jaio)

67 Knock yourself out, but two facts remain; 1) they
voted for the Won, and 2) your rants @ the older set are stupid, silly,
and unwarranted. If you wish to bi*** about unfunded future liabilities,
then your beef is w/those currently "middle aged". Kinda makes the rest
of your posts hard to take seriously...

Posted by: Jess1 at February 18, 2013 08:37 AM (lbiWb)


This is teachable moment. This, Morons and Ettes, is what we call "a very large mistake" or "poking the bear."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 18, 2013 08:38 AM (da5Wo)

68 I don't understand why it isn't working for some of y'all. It will open for me no matter what method I use.

Tried doing the actual address instead of the shortened url and Pixy will not take it.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:40 AM (53z96)

69 In the caveman days, we used to celebrate Lincoln's birthday on the 16th and then Washington's birthday on the 21st. But the federal workers needed their long weekend, So it morphed into the generic President's Day.

And a day to sell furniture and cars.

Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 08:40 AM (A5iH4)

70 Gee, raising taxes so MN is 4th (behind CA, HI, and OR), what could possibly go wrong? Gubenor Dayton (remember his star performance in "Sir Robin the Brave"? ) says it's going to raise $2 billion in new revenue and "make things more fair". Demotards, the alleged party of science and empirical data, live in their fantasy based world in a static bubble. They assume that they can continue to raise taxes, and people will not change their behavior. If this was the case, the geniuses running CA would not currently be considering a new tax to punish the producers from leaving CA.


The thing is HI and CA have nicer weather than MN. Shoot, even OR has nicer weather than MN! OR also has high unemployment and not that many job opportunities.

Posted by: runningrn at February 18, 2013 08:41 AM (Ag5D2)

71 And its too bad too because it is a great picture

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 08:41 AM (53z96)

72 Is that a real cat? That would be ComissionerBele.

Posted by: perdogg at February 18, 2013 08:41 AM (oSdsj)

73

You forgot the best step of all:



Step 5: Spend 3/4 of the million you just saved.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 18, 2013 08:42 AM (VLifP)

74 Wasn't that cat in an episode of Star Trek?

Posted by: Tex's Assaultin' Batteries at February 18, 2013 08:43 AM (wtvvX)

75 I thought we got Preznit's Day when we got MLK Day.

Now the only human beings who get their own birthday holidays are King and Christ.

Sorry, but that's fucked up.

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 08:44 AM (MMC8r)

76 Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 18, 2013 08:42 AM (VLifP)

But post this at your bank as a $250,000 savings!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 18, 2013 08:44 AM (Cnqmv)

77 Doom has brought warmth to the north country. 25 degrees this AM. Above zero and everything.

Posted by: Muad'dib - Bringer of Cookies at February 18, 2013 08:44 AM (KjlbF)

78 Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 08:38 AM (QXlbZ)

Good on him. Connections are very important. More so these days.

Off topic, I used to read your blog, until you pretty much stopped posting on it. Thought it was pretty funny.

I understand you are one of the resident's of the People's Republic of Maryland. Would have been cool to have had you at the meetup a couple of months ago.

Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 08:45 AM (A5iH4)

79 NOW everyone knows he's a complete moron and an anti-Semite, which is not good for national security.




Well, it's par for the course. Look at all the other losers Oblahblah has surrounded himself with. Sigh!

Posted by: runningrn at February 18, 2013 08:45 AM (Ag5D2)

80 Kinda makes the rest of your posts hard to take seriously...

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*Shrug*

You can ignore me all you want. Just look at the kitty picture at the bottom of the post and murmur, "All wi' be well, all wi' be well, an' all manner 'a things wi' be well."

Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 08:45 AM (G8OwX)

81 If Obama and his baby boomer cronies have their way, we'll all be subscribing the Hunter S. Thompson retirement plan.

Posted by: Fritz at February 18, 2013 08:46 AM (UzPAd)

82 Okay, reading up on the history of Washington's BD/President's Day, its a glorious tale of governmental doublespeak and wankery.

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 08:47 AM (MMC8r)

83 Regarding retirement, in most parts of the world retirement means moving into your children's house. Maybe its time our culture embraces that.

Posted by: bitchka at February 18, 2013 08:49 AM (X0lLi)

84 This message really needs to reach the low info voters. If the R's aren't going to do it, we are doomed.

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 08:49 AM (YWVdm)

85 1982 is the year it became known as President's day.

Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 08:50 AM (A5iH4)

86 And yes-- Get off my lawn!

Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 08:50 AM (A5iH4)

87 Posted by: Fritz at February 18, 2013 08:46 AM (UzPAd)

Obamacare's IPAB will do that for you.

Remember that the only procedure automatically approved for full coverage under Obamacare is a DNR. In fact, you may be approved for it even though you didn't request it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 18, 2013 08:50 AM (Cnqmv)

88 "w/those currently middle-aged"

Whoa there big fella. To quote a part of a nic, I "didn't vote for this s*@+"

And since I can't find work at a semi decent wage, and I'm not going to try to "milk the system", I'm going to sell the house Andrew move into the city (probably a gunfire filled hood) so I can survive on a crappy $10/hr job till I can find something better.

Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 08:51 AM (9aeie)

89 Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 18, 2013 08:45 AM (A5iH4)

Doing two blogs, plus raising kids, plus my day job, plus writing teh SciFi got to be too much. If someone invited me to cob log, I'd welcome it.

Let me know the next time there's a meet-up. Would love to meet-up with some of the other morons.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 08:51 AM (QXlbZ)

90 Cute neopolitan kitteh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 18, 2013 08:52 AM (piMMO)

91
When I read that WaPo article I just chuckled throughout the whole thing. It's an obvious attempt to further the progressive narrative that "something must be done" about the "unfairness" of the wealthy having an advantage over the rest of us. Go read it, except read it in the context of all the stories we've heard in the last couple of years about the federal government nationalizing pension plans and 401K's. That's the gist of the article. It's not fair that all these high income workers got all those huge tax breaks for all those years to save for retirement when lower income workers didn't get such high tax breaks to save. And the poorer people had to dip into their 401K's to survive those awful Bush years. Notice the guy who lost his job lost it in 2002? Yup. It's Bush's fault.
It's bullshit. The article doesn't say what telecommunication firm he worked for but I worked for Verizon and they had a huge buyout program that was so attractive people were falling all over themselves to get it. Both union and management were leaving in droves. So chances are that this guy volunteered to leave.
I left in 2008 and I took my pension in a lump sum to get it in my name. I strongly urge anyone out there who has a public pension or a 401K administered by a large corporation and who is eligible to retire now to do so. Only if you have the option to take it in a lump sum. Get it out, get it in your name, and put it something backed up by precious metals or something safe. Do it before the 2014 elections.

Posted by: Jaynie59 at February 18, 2013 08:52 AM (4zKCA)

92 Talk about inflation, gas is back to almost 4 bucks/gallon here, and my grocery bill was $160 for a family of two adults (and yes I shop weekly). That didn't even include the Costco run I did the next day. On top of that we just shelled out $7200 for a brand new furnace since ours died. Because of that last expense, we made the decision to not go to HI in June for my husband's nephew's high school graduation (the rest of his family are all going). So it pisses me off to no end that the JEFF who demonizes "rich" people all the time is taking an expensive boy's golf weekend. The MFM painted Mitt Romney as an out of touch evil 1 Percenter. The last vaca Mitt took was to Disney Land with his family (you know if he has taken any expensive vacas it would be splashed all over the news). Mitt goes to Disney Land with his family. Barry and Mooch take extravagant vacas, dine out at expensive restaurants, etc., and they hang out with other rich people. Crap, Oblahblah doesn't even go on vaca with his own family!

Posted by: runningrn at February 18, 2013 08:53 AM (Ag5D2)

93 I don't ever expect to be able to retire.

Earnings to debt and taxes ratio is way to low.

My only chance is that one of the kids hits it big. While this is wishful thinking, I am really hoping they just get by w/o sucking on the gov teet.

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 08:53 AM (YWVdm)

94 Old people sure blow a lot of money on bingo.

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 08:53 AM (MMC8r)

95 If, as a Boomer, I have to have all of this crap blamed on me, which I did not like and did not vote for, and much of which was decided by the generation which preceded me, then I am going to tar all of you younger folks as hipster entitlement whiners.

Doesn't seem very fair, does it?

As one who lived through the last generational war back in the late 60's, I would remind you that enmity between the generations is a tactic of the left. It divides the country, divides families, and makes younger people ignore those very people who remember how things used to be.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 08:53 AM (GoIUi)

96 This message really needs to reach the low info voters. If the R's aren't going to do it, we are doomed.


***

I DESPISE the term 'low-info voter'. It suggests that they don't have enough info.

That is not the case.

They are willfully ignorant voters.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 18, 2013 08:54 AM (piMMO)

97 JEFF=JUG EARRED EFFING F*%K!

Posted by: runningrn at February 18, 2013 08:54 AM (Ag5D2)

98 Oh, and it's not like the demographic truth regarding social security hasn't been known for, oh, say thirty years or more.

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 08:55 AM (MMC8r)

99 Regarding retirement, in most parts of the world retirement means moving into your children's house.

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Yeah, but what if you didn't have kids? Or if your kids are even worse off than you?

Demographically, seniors are far more well-off than younger people are. The problem they face isn't of an immediate cash-crunch, but rather a slow "leaking away" of their savings. They live longer than they thought they would, or a large expenditure -- a medical problem, an unexpected debt, something -- upsets their plans.

Many seniors go into retirement either with no plan at all, or with wildly unrealistic ideas of their income and expenses in retirement. Many carry a lot of "bad" debt into retirement: credit cards, auto loans, student loans, etc. And they don't change their spending habits once they're in retirement -- in fact, many retirees spend *more* in retirement because they consider it a gift to themselves.

Even if you go into retirement with a million dollars of your own money in the bank, that isn't much if you plan to live on it for 20 years. It's not peanuts, and it should afford you a relatively comfortable life, but you're not going to be able to live like Warren Buffett or anything.

Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 08:55 AM (G8OwX)

100 They are willfully ignorant voters.
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This would make then aliterate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliteracy

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 08:56 AM (YWVdm)

101 83 Regarding retirement, in most parts of the world retirement means moving into your children's house. Maybe its time our culture embraces that.
Posted by: bitchka at February 18, 2013 08:49 AM (X0lLi)

Do I get to leave all the lights on?

Posted by: BignJames at February 18, 2013 08:56 AM (Sg0G/)

102 Preznit's Day, right?


Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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O'Bama stepped onto the Golf Course this morning , Saw his shadow and now we'll have 4 more years of a bad economy....

Posted by: American Dawg at February 18, 2013 08:57 AM (trA4n)

103 "Andrew" - heh one of these days I'll learn to "make sure" whenever I try to type "and" on this tiny keyboard...or not.

Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 08:57 AM (Vzh0K)

104 When I move in with the kids, I will no longer be able to lounge around w/o my pants on.

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 08:57 AM (YWVdm)

105 >>>As one who lived through the last generational war back in the late
60's, I would remind you that enmity between the generations is a tactic
of the left. It divides the country, divides families, and makes
younger people ignore those very people who remember how things used to
be.

Yep. And the Left did a bang up job of it when they were young, just as they are doing a bang up job of it now that they're older.

Posted by: Fritz at February 18, 2013 08:58 AM (UzPAd)

106 >>> We've pissed all our own money away, and now we're pissing theirs away
too, and on trifles. Vacations, new cars, fancy dinners, retirement
living that we didn't save enough money for. It's child abuse of the
rankest and worst sort. We're selling our own children and
grand-children into debtor's prison. They're going to hate us for it,
and they have a right to.


That reminds me of something you might recognize.

The Matrix wasn't about computers. It was about the State.

------------------------

Morpheus: Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Neo: The Matrix.

Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?

Neo: Yes.

Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage.

Posted by: Phinn at February 18, 2013 08:58 AM (oFH2D)

107
The problem a lot of older Americans have with finger-pointing like Monty as well as myself and others indulge in is that they feel they didn't have much to do with spending their children's money. They didn't vote for it, they didn't ask for it. They just took it.

I think it's a decent case they're making. There isn't and won't be a list of those of us who contributed far more than we'll take out. No dispensation for those of us screaming how wrong this is.

Most of all, there won't be any accountability for those who plugged their ears and insisted it was their money coming back to them and by God, they want what they'd been promised.

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 18, 2013 08:59 AM (r5w1L)

108 The words "squirrel meat" figure prominently in my retirmement plans.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 18, 2013 08:59 AM (QXlbZ)

109 74 Wasn't that cat in an episode of Star Trek?
Posted by: Tex's Assaultin' Batteries at February 18, 2013 08:43 AM (wtvvX)

Two episodes had a cat; one with a witch and warlock (forgot the title) and "Assignment: Earth" where Kirk and Spock travel back to 1968 to prevent a nuclear war.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:59 AM (XkWWK)

110 "Assignment: Earth" where Kirk and Spock travel back to 1968 to prevent a nuclear war.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:59 AM (XkWWK)


And you know who THAT cat was!

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 09:01 AM (53z96)

111 I would love to see Teddy Roosevelt dynamited off of Rushmore and replaced with Ronald Reagan.

Just a pleasant fantasy for the day.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:01 AM (XkWWK)

112 This would make then aliterate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliteracy

***

"base their future decisions on what they used to know...If you don't read much, you really don't know much...you're dangerous."

Yep. That'll do.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 18, 2013 09:01 AM (piMMO)

113 111 And you know who THAT cat was!
Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 09:01 AM (53z96)

Isis?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:01 AM (XkWWK)

114 And you know who THAT cat was!


Some 60's hottie?

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:02 AM (GQ8sn)

115 Send your wife away, so you can hang out with Tiger ... Wow ... And what a week or two after all those stories about how Tiger moved to Florida to avoid Cali taxes

He knows he has the press by the balls

Posted by: Jean at February 18, 2013 09:02 AM (uRbX6)

116 Oh, and it's not like the demographic truth regarding social security hasn't been known for, oh, say thirty years or more.

I know we all hate those icky social conservatives with their off-putting morality and shit, but we aborted a lot of would-be taxpayers between 1972 and 1991.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 09:03 AM (/kI1Q)

117 Isis????


http://is.gd/F2k49s

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 09:04 AM (53z96)

118 Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 08:55 AM (G8OwX)


Yes, retirement savings don't go very far when you get <0.6% on a "safe" savings account and probably > 5% inflation (although they way that they have cooked the books, real inflation is much higher).

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 18, 2013 09:04 AM (Cnqmv)

119 And you know who THAT cat was!


Her name is Victoria Vetri. I just looked her up on IMDB and had to put my eyeballs back into their sockets. There's a pic of her in a bikini that looks like the one Ursala Andress wore in Dr. No.

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:04 AM (GQ8sn)

120 Aliteracy

The true first world problem.

'They' say is is a result of our iconic culture. Imagery displaces words and critical thinking skills.

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 09:05 AM (YWVdm)

121 No it was Julie Newmar.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 09:05 AM (53z96)

122 My 10 and 12 year olds attend a highly-gifted education school in our large NC city. They are surrounded by "diversity", but one thing this "diversity" (including most of those immigrating from other countries/continents) have in common is that they love Obama and liberalism. Even the kids. Last November, a particular teacher allowed the kids to debate which Presidential candidate was best and why. My 12 year old tried and tried to get these youngsters to understand that their futures were being stolen. . .

But it's too late. Their own parents don't even seem to care about their own children's futures. Personally, when I think that the government and other citizens of this country think it's okay to steal my children's potentials and use it for their own gain, I get really angry. I'm trying to not hate people (since that is akin to murder), but it sure is hard not to grow bitter in situations like this.

It's my hope that my children and other children like them will step up and tell these people where to put it when they get the chance. . . instead of being like the current crop of 20 to 30 somethings that mostly tend to be like those self-entitled Baby Boomers saying, "Where is mine?"

I'm tired of hippies who think they are the only ones with a conscience when the truth is they conscience is crippled by a deep-seated self-centeredness.

Posted by: whobewut at February 18, 2013 09:06 AM (W5c4e)

123 No it was Julie Newmar.

IMDB says different. Who's right?

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:06 AM (GQ8sn)

124 Remember people, every time you hear someone drop some absurd hyperbole like "Teapublicans are committing economic terrorism by not raising the debt ceiling!", remember to quickly respond with, "Well then the Democrats are pedophiles because they never stop fucking our children and grandchildren!"

Posted by: mugiwara at February 18, 2013 09:07 AM (hpYnL)

125 My 10 and 12 year olds attend a highly-gifted education school in our large NC city.


Lemme guess....Charlotte?

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:07 AM (GQ8sn)

126 Ooops, wrong episode, It was Victoria Vetri; still hawt.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 09:07 AM (53z96)

127 "Well then the Democrats are pedophiles because they never stop fucking our children and grandchildren!"

That's going on a sampler.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 09:08 AM (/kI1Q)

128 OK, break is over, I'm back on my head.

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2013 09:08 AM (YWVdm)

129 Nope.

The chick who played Isis the cat (who transmutes from cat to human at the end of the show) is an actress named Victoria Vetri.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0895407/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:08 AM (XkWWK)

130 He knows he has the press by the balls

Posted by: Jean at February 18, 2013 09:02 AM (uRbX6)

The press has become more sycophantic than Pravda was in the good old days, thank goodness for PROGRESS!

Posted by: Pravda Ombudsman at February 18, 2013 09:08 AM (Cnqmv)

131 That cat is a textbook case of chimerism. Very cool.

Posted by: La Troienne at February 18, 2013 09:08 AM (uSZ1t)

132 Julie Newmar played a preggo alien who only allows Dr. McCoy to be her gynecologist.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:09 AM (XkWWK)

133 Victoria Vetri (real name 'Rathgeb') apparently pleaded no contest to manslaughter of her husband, and the years have NOT been kind:

http://victoriarathgeb.officialweb-site.com/victoria-rathgeb-today

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 09:09 AM (MMC8r)

134 EC, not Charlotte. No way in Hades. If I lived in that area, I'd look into the Fort Mill, Rock Hill or even Cabarrus County schools. I'm familiar with those too.

I don't really want to say which city I'm in, haha, because I've grown paranoid in my older age. But not Charlotte. That place is an ugly mess since they let the professional sports in ages ago.

Posted by: whobewut at February 18, 2013 09:10 AM (W5c4e)

135 Okay, it was 'attempted' manslaughter.

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 09:11 AM (MMC8r)

136 133 Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 09:09 AM (MMC8r)

Ouch. And yet somewhere, there's a toothless hobo who'd hit it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:12 AM (XkWWK)

137 For EC, and the rest of the Rons.....


Victoria Vetri:



http://tinyurl.com/bc6mgxo



http://tinyurl.com/9wbdydc



http://tinyurl.com/a5nyx5f NSFW



http://tinyurl.com/ahulroq NSFW

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 18, 2013 09:13 AM (da5Wo)

138 I don't really want to say which city I'm in, haha, because I've grown
paranoid in my older age. But not Charlotte. That place is an ugly
mess since they let the professional sports in ages ago.


Well, that leaves Raleigh as a "large" city by NC standards. Everything else is a town. And yeah, Charlotte is an urban shithole.

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:14 AM (GQ8sn)

139 I'm focussed like a laser....on Tiger's hot ass!

Posted by: Barackus Retardius at February 18, 2013 09:14 AM (NF2Bf)

140 127 That's going on a sampler.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 09:08 AM (/kI1Q)

I think you gave one of my gems a similar honor. When can we have a peek?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:15 AM (XkWWK)

141 And that kitteh reminds me of the old Star Trek episode with the two-tone aliens,

--

Heh. That's the first thing I thought of when I saw it. And coincidentally, I just watched it yesterday (have the dvd set). Batman's Frank Gorshin and his half very-obvious shoe polished face.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 18, 2013 09:15 AM (ATdet)

142 I personally think low info voters are really WRONG info voters.

There are plenty of people i that group who can quote you all the stats on players in the NBA, or name all of the relationships in the sinister Kardashian web of evil. They have learned the words to all of the latest hip hop hits, know where to go to get the latest and best shoes, who has the best price on drugs, where you can get the most money for your EBT card.

These people are not stupid. They are choosing to NOT be interested in politics or economics. And why is that?

Because the media presents the GOP as "old white guys who don't want you to have fun" while the dems are portrayed as the cool people. (You never see Waxman on TV, do you?)

To the LIV, they figure politics is boring and they have been given the code to ignore it. "Vote dem so those boring people won't tell us how to live." Then they go back to the Karsashians.

Why do you guys think McCain is on TV so much? Yes, part of it is his propensity to stab the GOP in the back. But just as much he is there because he is OLD. This sends the message to the young and since the agitprop is already inciting generational division, he is looked at, dismissed, and the yung sink deeper into the pit.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 09:16 AM (GoIUi)

143
"Otherwise you'll have to keep doing what every other human being has had to do throughout human history. You'll have to get up every morning and go to work."



Hahahahahahahahahahahah!

Posted by: Free Shit Army at February 18, 2013 09:16 AM (UrENZ)

144 The thing is youth have voted to screw themselves and the rest of us in the last two presidential elections. So when they get what they deserve, I will not have a tremendous amount of sympathy. You reap what you sow, fools.

(Of course, this does not apply to those under 18 . . . yet.)

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at February 18, 2013 09:16 AM (Tmdyt)

145 - "The liberalization of America has corresponded more or less exactly with the urbanization of America."

Obviously an absurd statement. The U.S. over the past few decades has become far less urbanized. Suburbs and exurbs largely have usurped urban areas. And the U.S. is not any more liberal than it was in 1985. Liberals still are a small fraction of the overall populace, as they always have been and always will be.

What happened simply was that the left engrafted itself onto the Democrat Party -- a corrupt and ruthless political machine -- and after going nowhere for a while they eventually won a lot of major elections. Meanwhile during the same time frame a substantial portion of the right (far larger in numbers than its left-wing counterparts) became irrationally obsessed with conveying and sending various "messages." The left is not saddled with such trivialities.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at February 18, 2013 09:16 AM (r2PLg)

146 For EC, and the rest of the Rons.....


Victoria Vetri:




I would have hit that, but I wasn't born yet, which would cause a massive time paradox.

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:17 AM (GQ8sn)

147 "...because I've grown paranoid..."

I'm under the impression we've got computery type commenters here who have the ability to "backtrack" to our net addresses and figure out who each of us is if they want.
Probably folks who know how to block that too.
I just accept that big brother knows everything I'm saying.
I've told friends to consider me a canary.

Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 09:18 AM (FVNuD)

148 Aww shit...

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:18 AM (GQ8sn)

149 142

Ironically, Reagan overcame so, so much of that. Even as old as he was, he was the 'cool' choice.

That's the real reason they still hate Reagan so much. If he hadn't been elected, they would have pushed us to the point we are now by the early 90s.

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 09:18 AM (MMC8r)

150 The Star Trek episode featuring that cat ("Let this be your Last Battlefield") didn't feature a cat, but two bipeds who were black on one side and white on the other, just different sides.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 18, 2013 09:19 AM (E7Dhv)

151 It isn't the youth as I have said many many times. It is a combination of two things; The FSA must have their free shit and it doesn't cost them a damn thing. And two, the damn RNC insists on moderate lackluster candidates who inspire shit.

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 09:19 AM (53z96)

152 Step 1: I'll declare that I plan to spend a million dollars on a new summer home next year. Step 2: I'll check my bank account and realize that my large debt and two hundred dollar checking account won't support that kind of expenditure.
Step 3: I'll direct my printer to print moar money. Step 4: I"ll deem my budget passed.
If I were able to budget like the feral gov.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2013 09:20 AM (d0Dmj)

153 The thing is youth have voted to screw themselves and the rest of us in the last two presidential elections. So when they get what they deserve, I will not have a tremendous amount of sympathy. You reap what you sow, fools.

(Of course, this does not apply to those under 18 . . . yet.)

****

If there's one thing you can count on kids to do, it is to rebel.

Sure, kids are idealists and dream of unicorns and skittles, but rebellion is built in and they have been watching their squishy parents suck Obama's weenie for 5 years now.

They've been latch-key kids and everyone-gets-a-trophy kids and victims to the "self-esteem" bullshit for so long that, at some point, they are going to stand up and say enough is enough.

Or...at least I hope so.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 18, 2013 09:21 AM (piMMO)

154 Gee, I'm sure glad the photog gave Victoria that red netting to protect her modesty. Otherwise, she'd be nekkid.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at February 18, 2013 09:23 AM (a5ljo)

155 By the way, if you all think that older people aren't dismissed, you should disguise yourself as an older woman and see how much people ignore you or dismiss you.

This is why when I visit the bank I go in full make-up with hair done, wearing my best clothing and speaking in a firm voice, standing up straight.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 18, 2013 09:23 AM (GoIUi)

156
Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 18, 2013 08:25 AM (VtjlW)

I blame Rawls. Normally I blame the failure to properly take into account Rawl's difference principle (which I think allows for far more wealth difference than modern liberals give it credit.) But the whole "borrow for the present" thing is totally Rawl's fault.
Premise 1) You can't escape Rawl's he's what all liberals (and many others) think about when they think Justice. It's just that pervasive.
Premise 2) the fucker seriously excluded having people from different generations behind the "veil of ignorance." (More specifically everyone behind the veil had to be contemporaneous, which I suppose allows for multiple generations, but only really 2, not enough to account for the future.)
In doing so Rawl's justice is greedy, it takesfrom the futureto solve perceived problems now. It wasn't entirely unexpected, I mean Rawl's new that people were petty and greedy, so I don't really understand why he constructed this thusly.

Posted by: tsrblke at February 18, 2013 09:23 AM (GaqMa)

157 151

The RNC is convinced they need to take their half down the center.

Right of center doesn't like that, Left of center just goes with the Left. They need to start at the right and try to claim more of the center-- because the right doesn't automatically come along-- by convincing that center that the right is right and the Left is nuts.

Posted by: zsasz at February 18, 2013 09:23 AM (MMC8r)

158 "they sacrificed the patient to save the tumor"


That would be the banking industry, no?

Posted by: Shouting from behind a closed door at February 18, 2013 09:23 AM (nEDGE)

159 Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 18, 2013 09:13 AM (da5Wo)

Sad to say, the good links do not seem to work?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 18, 2013 09:24 AM (Cnqmv)

160 No they won't rebel

The psych drugs they're all on have taken care of that

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 18, 2013 09:24 AM (J6kXj)

161 When can we have a peek?

Might be awhile for actual samplers, since I don't have a patron to keep me warm and fed while I make art.

Inkjet-printed things, OTOH, I did some work over the weekend.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 09:24 AM (/kI1Q)

162 Haha...Victoria Vetri starred in a movie called "Invasion of The Bee Girls" in 1973.

A powerful cosmic force is turning Earth women into queen bees who kill men by wearing them out sexually.


LOL! I think it's time for a re-boot!

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn)

163 144 The thing is youth have voted to screw themselves and the rest of us in the last two presidential elections. So when they get what they deserve, I will not have a tremendous amount of sympathy. You reap what you sow, fools.

(Of course, this does not apply to those under 18 . . . yet.)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at February 18, 2013 09:16 AM (Tmdyt)


Yes, they will get it in the ass like the rest of us. The problem is they'll still blame America, Americanism and the free-market.

There are still plenty of old coots in Russia who long for the days of Stalin because they believe communism was good but that the people managing it were bad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:25 AM (XkWWK)

164 Sad to say, the good links do not seem to work?

Don't include the NSFW portion.

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn)

165 A powerful cosmic force is turning Earth women into queen bees who kill men by wearing them out sexually.

LOL! I think it's time for a re-boot!


Reporting for duty sir!

Posted by: Helen Thomas at February 18, 2013 09:26 AM (NF2Bf)

166 A powerful cosmic force is turning Earth women into queen bees who kill men by wearing them out sexually.



LOL! I think it's time for a re-boot!



Reporting for duty sir!





Posted by: Helen Thomas




*dies*

Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:27 AM (GQ8sn)

167 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse, I saw first hand college youth turn sharply to the right during the early 80's. So I agree there is hope.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at February 18, 2013 09:28 AM (Tmdyt)

168 *dies*
Posted by: EC


The Jew did it!

Posted by: Helen Thomas at February 18, 2013 09:28 AM (NF2Bf)

169 By the way, if you all think that older people aren't dismissed, you
should disguise yourself as an older woman and see how much people
ignore you or dismiss you.


I expect to get better average attention as an old woman than I got as an ugly young woman. Less attention = less ridicule. It's already happening in middle age.

Well, that's what I expected ten years ago, anyway. Now I expect to be death-paneled or death-camped before I get old.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 18, 2013 09:28 AM (/kI1Q)

170 Wearing men out sexually?

This looks like a job for "SUPERDOME PUSSY!" Starring Sandra Fluke.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:29 AM (XkWWK)

171 "I blame Rawls."

Maybe, but that guy had one smooth voice.

You'll never find,,,as long as you live
Someone who loves you,,,like I do

Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 09:29 AM (8nDPF)

172 Well, that's what I expected ten years ago, anyway. Now I expect to be death-paneled or death-camped before I get old.

My 14yo is talking about wanting to be a surgeon. I'm really hoping that happens, because I really don't want to be euthanized by some faceless bureaucrat.

I want to be death-panelled by family!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 18, 2013 09:30 AM (NF2Bf)

173 This looks like a job for "SUPERDOME PUSSY!" Starring Sandra Fluke.

Two men enter, no man leaves!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 18, 2013 09:31 AM (NF2Bf)

174 171 "I blame Rawls."

Maybe, but that guy had one smooth voice.

You'll never find,,,as long as you live
Someone who loves you,,,like I do
Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 09:29 AM (8nDPF)


Lou Rawls used to be a back-up singer for Sam Cooke. Rawls lost his memory after a very bad car accident and when Sam Cooke brought him on stage during one of his shows, it all started to come back to him. Very touching story.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 09:31 AM (XkWWK)

175 Dump is up....

Posted by: Tami at February 18, 2013 09:31 AM (X6akg)

176 "And the U.S. is not any more liberal than it was in 1985. Liberals
still are a small fraction of the overall populace, as they always have
been and always will be."

Talk about an absurd statement. Hell a large percentage of the GOP (politicians and voters) are liberals now. How you can pretend we aren't a liberal nation is beyond me.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 18, 2013 09:32 AM (7Nq2G)

177
I want to be death-panelled by family!



I told my dad, I'd put him in the best home I could afford!


Posted by: EC at February 18, 2013 09:32 AM (GQ8sn)

178 "By reversing himself, McCain effectively sacrificed his own credibility"

Oh PLEASE. Hagel is bar-none, the worst nominee for Sec Def in at least a quarter century. If he is so apparently bad in confirmation, who in their right mind would think he is going to be any better as Dec Def ? They might as well just nominate Clint Eastwood's "empty chair," who would probably be more effective.

This round of Obama nominations has lowered the bar so low that any "empty suit" is now qualified for virtually any cabinet post.

The irony of ironies is having John Kerry, a known violator of the Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) during the VietNam war, as the point person for determining who may violate the Logan Act in the future.

Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld at February 18, 2013 09:33 AM (e8kgV)

179 News dump up

Posted by: Vic at February 18, 2013 09:33 AM (53z96)

180 Stop that Heather!!!
Stop it right now!!!
I've seen your pic. With that smile there could never have been a time when you were ugly.
Now myself on the other hand....

Posted by: teej at February 18, 2013 09:34 AM (zSyar)

181 I blame Rawls.

*eyetwitch* I loathe Rawls. *eyetwitch*


Well, to be fair, while I do loathe Rawls, I loathe more those who all smugly believe that they are morally superior because they follow Rawls and isn't that theory so grand and fair and blah blah blah bullshit.


I actually got into a screaming match in a faculty meeting about Rawls and how I far prefer my totalitarianism to be straight up instead of very poorly concealed. The person I was screaming at flatly refused to concede the blazingly obvious point that the only way to implement Rawlsian "justice" was tyranny.

Posted by: alexthechick - Chaotic Evil Hobbit. at February 18, 2013 09:35 AM (VtjlW)

182 If the GOP was smart (hahahaha) it would pull await and switch for the Sunday news shows. Offer McCain or Hatch, send Rubio, Scott, Paul or Cruz. But one, McCain would never give up his spot and two, it would probably only work once. Alternatively, the GOP could just say this is who we will send, love it or leave it.

Posted by: Museisluse at February 18, 2013 09:36 AM (G4YiV)

183 They just defined rich; anyone who saved for their own retirement. Savers are evil and takers are needy. Your 401k is Obama's next target.

Posted by: airandee at February 18, 2013 09:36 AM (lcfkn)

184 Pull a bait and switch. Stupid autocorrect.

Posted by: Museisluse at February 18, 2013 09:36 AM (G4YiV)

185 Suburbs and exurbs largely have usurped urban areas.

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Suburbs and exurbs *are* urban. As opposed to "rural". They are of the city more than of the country. (If you get city water, power, and gas, then you live in the city.)

Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 09:38 AM (G8OwX)

186 If anyone cares, the NRA is offering lifetime memberships for $300

Where do you see that? Their website says $1000.

Posted by: t-bird at February 18, 2013 09:39 AM (FcR7P)

187 This looks like a job for "SUPERDOME PUSSY!" Starring Sandra Fluke.



Two men enter, no man leaves!


Until we find my car keys. Then we'll DRIVE out!

Posted by: rickb223 - May God bless Texas at February 18, 2013 09:42 AM (d0Dmj)

188 I actually got into a screaming match in a faculty meeting about Rawls and how I far prefer my totalitarianism to be straight up instead of very poorly concealed.

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Abraham Lincoln wrote in a letter to Joshua F. Speed: "When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty--to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy."

Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2013 09:45 AM (G8OwX)

189 That two-tone cat... that's what my black and my orange cat look like when they wrestle.

Posted by: a mindful webworker at February 18, 2013 09:45 AM (Ynbgq)

190 Pretty cool video that explains how different people view time and how thateffects everything else.
wimp.com/secretpowers/

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 18, 2013 09:52 AM (mV8sg)

191
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We are promising their future labor, their future wealth, their future lives, to back up our own foolish debts. We are making their future lives meaner and smaller and more constrained because we could not govern ourselves properly. It makes me angry. It makes me furious. It makes me want to apologize to everyone under the age of twenty or so for what we are doing to them.
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My wife and I have a number of liberal friends. However, it was just back in November that I really noticed the vast majority of them are either unmarried or married with no children. And yes, they are serious Obama boosters.

So Monty's statement kind of put into words my bitterness with these people. They are voting to enslave *my* kids and yet they have no skin in the game...no link to the future. No, they get their goodies paid for by the "breeders" upon whom they condescend every minute of every GD day. And now, enough is enough. Just yesterday my wife had two of these "friends" came over for some reason, and while they talked I could only think about how these people are selling my kids into debt bondage. Made me sick. Couldn't even talk to them.

So yeah, while I'm trying to remain cheerful it's clear that I'm going to have to jettison a lot of baggage out of my life. At least it will make Christmas time much simpler.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 18, 2013 09:56 AM (tVWQB)

192 You know, at this point what difference does it make?

Posted by: Hildabeast Clinton at February 18, 2013 09:59 AM (GQ72I)

193 Victoria Vetri ... oh, no. Another pubescent fantasy ruined. Closing eyes, trying to unsee/unread and be back watching that ST:TOS episode for the first time. Teri Garr playing Goldi Hawn's Laugh-In bubblehead... So wanted to see that as a spinoff...

Posted by: a mindful webworker at February 18, 2013 10:14 AM (rf20m)

194 #54 J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2013 08:33 AM

lol

Ok, that's a good one!

1. eyes
2. glasses
3. pubic education
4. bad attitude
5. all of the above.

What do you want from me? Perfection?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 18, 2013 10:23 AM (L8W+m)

195 Love me some DOOM! I don't plan to retire anyway. Sounds boring.

Posted by: Sinalco at February 18, 2013 10:24 AM (0MVzQ)

196 Step 1: I'll declare that I plan to spend a million dollars on a new
summer home next year.
Step 2: I'll check my bank account and realize
that my large debt and two hundred dollar checking account won't support
that kind of expenditure.
Step 3: I'll declare the million-dollar-house
project defunct. Step 4: I just saved a million dollars off of next
year's budget! I'm an economics genius!
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Step 5: But since I just saved a million dollars, I really ought to spend invest it in the future!

Posted by: David at February 18, 2013 10:26 AM (qyjnV)

197 Addendum to gov't budgeting.

Step 5: Figure out a way to spend the million I just "saved"

Posted by: the government at February 18, 2013 10:26 AM (omVzF)

198 That meteor weighed 7000 tons and was the size of a bus?

Kin I git me some math skilz here?

Even if the thing was 100% iron, which is very unlikely, its density would have been ten times less than what is "reported" here.


Posted by: Zombie Isaac Newton at February 18, 2013 10:45 AM (o6qwg)

199
"Many seniors go into retirement either with no plan at all"
And "many =/= "most", or "all". Your continued focus on this does render the rest unreadable. I note too that the youngest set of voters participated at the highest rate (%) since the 80s, and that vote went to those willing to spend the future.
With that fact, no, I don't hold much hope to the younger set, and I fully blame them for their own bleak future.
If that, to you monty, means that I'm "ignoring" fiscal reality, then we haven't a dictionary in common, as I know that I'm pointing out what has actually happened...

Posted by: Jess1 at February 18, 2013 10:49 AM (lbiWb)

200 I would also feel bad about the young people except that every one I know without exception voted for Obama. Let them learn by the bitter coin of experience, say I.

Posted by: Navybrat at February 18, 2013 11:05 AM (4r+1g)

201 Posted by: Navybrat at February 18, 2013 11:05 AM (4r+1g)

Yup, it's a damn good thing they're all being brainwashed into liking being screwed in the ass.

Without lubricant.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 18, 2013 11:16 AM (Qxdfp)

202 Very simple formula.... when the Interest rate on saving, is lower than the REAL Rate of Inflation and devaluation of the dollar... saving money is a net NEGATIVE.

The Fed Reserve basicaly sets interest rates...

If inflation were measured as it was in the 70's, inflation is above 8%...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2013 11:25 AM (lZBBB)

203 MONTY - suggested Doom title:
DOOM and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Posted by: Connertown at February 18, 2013 11:38 AM (+q3dR)

204 Hey. We're just continuing the attitude of our parents. You know, the ones that somehow got called "The Greatest Generation"?

They should be called the Greediest Generation or the Most Gullible Generation.

It's them that approved and benefited the most from the socialist policies of Roosevelt. Appropriately enough, the first beneficiary of SS got thousands more than she ever contributed.

Not enough from the Greatest Generation complained about the imbalance then or later.

Then in the '60's, we got Johnson and the War on Poverty. Who also added Medicaid and Medicare to our lexicon.

Once again voted in by the Greatest Generation. (only some baby boomers were old enough to vote then so don't lay that at their feet). And who proceeded to quickly vote out any Sen or Rep that spoke about adjusting the SS to be fairer and fiscally responsible.

So when y'all look for scapegoats and targets, look to those brave winners of WWII when you do because they put in place most of the policies that are choking the country NOW.

And we wouldn't even be having this conversation if a bunch of young and old Wall street sharks and crooked politicians hadn't decided to get the banking laws changed or annulled so that they could proceed to gamble the country's future away on toxic assets disguised as prime investments.

Strangely enough, we don't hear too much about that or anyone responsible going to jail. Even though they've put our security at risk and stolen billions of dollars.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 11:38 AM (qyv02)

205 I'll never retire. Have been in private sector most of my life. Did OK but don't have a guaranteed pension. Friend of mine was talking about having 2 years left to his 20 year gov. Retirement (at 58yrs. Old) then an option to come back for 5 more years but only if he can find something easier like "training". I was trying not to hate him but it was tough. Even though I know being a cop is no cakewalk.

Posted by: gubmint worker at February 18, 2013 11:38 AM (XLuH2)

206 Also; you can't keep working if you're forced to retire/laid off/company closes.

So what's to be done with those folks?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 12:00 PM (qyv02)

207 By confiscating, I'm sorry, I mean redistributing, excess wealth now, your children will live in closer harmony with the rest of the world. Too much money is in the United States, and not working for social and economic justice in Africa and Asia.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 18, 2013 12:03 PM (0Yr25)

208 And we wouldn't even be having this conversation if a bunch of young and old Wall street sharks and crooked politicians hadn't decided to get the banking laws changed or annulled so that they could proceed to gamble the country's future away on toxic assets disguised as prime investments.

Strangely enough, we don't hear too much about that or anyone responsible going to jail. Even though they've put our security at risk and stolen billions of dollars.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 11:38 AM (qyv02)


I'm with you until this. The crash was caused by the FSA toppling things by blowing off their obligations. Blaming those who enabled them to get what they wanted, one way or another, for getting their feed-hands bit, is like blaming the Allies for the Holocaust for not putting the brakes on the Nazis sooner.

Posted by: BuddyPC at February 18, 2013 12:16 PM (jfUIE)

209 The crash was caused by banks having too many so called assets that were actully bundled bad mortgages obligations that were sold as being prime assets.

They were over valued and under investigated and they were bundled so as to make it easier to sell. The bad mortgages came from those who weren't qualified for a home mortgage being given one with little or no ability to pay and many were also naive and ignorant about what they exactly were getting into.

Some did enter into these mortgages with the idea that they could do like many others and flip it and make money but they didn't have the skills nor the financial assets to upgrade the houses nor did they have the depth of assets to patiently wait for a sale. Some were in areas that were not where this could be easily done.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 12:49 PM (qyv02)

210
They should be called the Greediest Generation or the Most Gullible Generation.

It's them that approved and benefited the most from the socialist policies of Roosevelt. Appropriately enough, the first beneficiary of SS got thousands more than she ever contributed.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at February 18, 2013 11:38 AM (qyv02)


THIS.

Payment for most things is vertical; you work, you pay, you get. Social Security tilted that relationship to the right (toward increasing time); someone else to your right (in time) works, someone else pays, you get.

Of course, the ineluctable corollary to that is that eventually someone works and pays, but no one pays for him to get when the time comes. And the hilarious (and infuriating, for those of us with kids who will be affected) part of this is that the people who are going to get hosed voted for it to happen.

It's like bulls voting in bullfighting.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 18, 2013 01:33 PM (IDSI7)

211
I'm with you until this. The crash was caused by the FSA toppling things by blowing off their obligations. Blaming those who enabled them to get what they wanted, one way or another, for getting their feed-hands bit, is like blaming the Allies for the Holocaust for not putting the brakes on the Nazis sooner.Posted by: BuddyPC at February 18, 2013 12:16 PM (jfUIE)

But ... but they were lied to! They were misled! They were sold predator loans! They didn't know!

Hey, dumb asses, if you're that stupid, you shouldn't be voting. Seriously, why would we want your considered judgment on how to handle the affairs of state, when you can't handle your own domestic affairs for shit?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 18, 2013 01:36 PM (IDSI7)

212
Posted by: Zombie Isaac Newton at February 18, 2013 10:45 AM (o6qwg)

Correct. They'rehigh by an order of magnitude.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 18, 2013 01:44 PM (IDSI7)

213 The WaPo article has all the buzz words -- like "crisis" and "inequality" and "Tom Harkin" -- that indicate a new government program is being planned.

Are they going to confiscate our "unequal" 401ks or just tax us? Or both?

I think I will take in a Gen Xer, and he or she can take care of me and live rent free. The least I can do since they were sold student debt by predatory colleges and since I'll be draining SS and Medicaid dry.

Yes, we are doomed.


Posted by: PJ at February 18, 2013 02:26 PM (ZWaLo)

214 It makes me want to apologize to everyone under the age of twenty or so for what we are doing to them.

I know this thread has long expired but I want to say that I do not aplogize to anyone who voted for Obama no matter how young or stupid. Everybody has to learn that elections have consequences and the younger they learn that the better.

Posted by: Decaf at February 18, 2013 04:22 PM (NmvvV)

215 European GDP takes a swan-dive into the potty.


Well, duh. Because of teh Austerity, sillies.

Posted by: BuddyPC at February 18, 2013 06:52 PM (jfUIE)






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