Tech flashback - text editing [Purp]

Everyone uses a text editor of some sort, right? They've been around forever but seem to have gotten rather ummm...the German word would be Zaftig, perhaps even more than just Zaftig...


Its coming on 25 years now since I discovered this little gem of a plain text editor Sam Wilmott wrote. I even sent him some cash way back when because I was so impressed with its power/size ratio and its RAW FREAKING SPEED. I used it for many years while working at IBM. This tiny little editor (well under 20K), packed more functionality per byte than almost any piece of software I've ever seen. When other editors (like BRIEF) had text dribbling across a screen on an old 4.77mhz 8088 when you leaned on the PgDn key, SLED would make it fly by in a blur.

I continue to use it to this day occasionally (along with BRIEF) for plain text editing.

If you'd like to experience what a real software craftsman can do with a bit of code no larger than most avatar graphics images, download SLED and give it a try. Bits don't rot -- its every bit as good today as it was back in 1987, and that was very good indeed.

You can download SLED here. Its a plain DOS app, but will run fine under any version of Windows or anything that has a DOS emulation.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:10 PM



Comments

1 So this is what we've come to...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2013 07:14 PM (GEICT)

2 first

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:14 PM (usWYv)

3 not first !

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:14 PM (usWYv)

4 I need a text editor

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:15 PM (usWYv)

5 this thread is mine

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:16 PM (usWYv)

6 Speaking of editors: http://preview.tinyurl.com/moron-toolkit-google

Posted by: alex at February 17, 2013 07:16 PM (44kMb)

7 On the subject of America's teachers, we all need to spank the living shit out of them because they can be credited with giving us an electorate of dumbshits.

Anyone remember "ned" on a Unix system?

As nice as "brief" and only ten years earlier.


Posted by: Al at February 17, 2013 07:17 PM (V70Uh)

8 where the hell is everyone ?

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:17 PM (usWYv)

9 nice to see the AL people showing up

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:18 PM (usWYv)

10 I like things that are formatted

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 17, 2013 07:18 PM (8sCoq)

11
I tried.

Note: SLED does not work under DR-DOS 2.1

But that may be due to my overclocking the 8086.
_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 17, 2013 07:19 PM (J8DGo)

12 8 where the hell is everyone ?
Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:17 PM (usWYv)


Washington's Birthday Sale at K-Mart?

Posted by: alex at February 17, 2013 07:19 PM (44kMb)

13 we are all Al now

Posted by: Al at February 17, 2013 07:19 PM (8sCoq)

14 shit just got real

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:19 PM (usWYv)

15 I'm here but that's not saying much.

Posted by: harleycowboy at February 17, 2013 07:20 PM (+9AX9)

16 I was watching my new favorite TV show "Lizard Lick Towing"

Posted by: Al at February 17, 2013 07:20 PM (8sCoq)

17 My OT from the previous thread probably fits better here: Why did USB win over firewire? Lost the dam power cord to my external drive so I can't use it right now to listen to music.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 07:20 PM (qo244)

18 "If you'd like to experience what a real software craftsman can do with a bit of code no larger than most avatar graphics images..."

Helloooooo, Ladies.

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at February 17, 2013 07:21 PM (J8DGo)

19 This sled editor was faster on a 8088 than most modern editors on a quad core multi-Ghz CPU.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:21 PM (1rU+d)

20 you mean obamas day dont you ? ...ducks ....hides... pokes head up .....JUST KIDDING !

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:22 PM (usWYv)

21 sokoff

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at February 17, 2013 07:22 PM (8sCoq)

22 Why did USB win over firewire?

Intel was behind it hard and put in on all their reference design motherboards.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:23 PM (1rU+d)

23 17 My OT from the previous thread probably fits better here: Why did USB win over firewire? Lost the dam power cord to my external drive so I can't use it right now to listen to music.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 07:20 PM (qo244)


Apple vs. PC.

Economy of scale.

Posted by: alex at February 17, 2013 07:23 PM (44kMb)

24 No worky with win 7. Downloads will not run.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 17, 2013 07:23 PM (wR+pz)

25 A good free text editor for Windows is Notepad++.

http://notepad-plus-plus.org/

One that I swear by but costs $$$ is UltraEdit:

http://www.ultraedit.com/

Posted by: Gran at February 17, 2013 07:24 PM (0pcT0)

26 I miss jimmy carter ( but im a terrible shot )

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:24 PM (usWYv)

27 DR-DOS 2.1

Wow, major buggage there. Even DR-DOS 6 was a compatibility disaster.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:24 PM (1rU+d)

28 Cool shit, doesn't work. Steel still won't burn.

Posted by: Rosie at February 17, 2013 07:25 PM (wR+pz)

29 Why did USB win over firewire? Lost the dam power cord to my external drive so I can't use it right now to listen to music.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 07:20 PM (qo244)

cheaper to implement and wider support

Posted by: The Dude at February 17, 2013 07:25 PM (vJdyz)

30 emacs ftw

Posted by: bad guy at February 17, 2013 07:26 PM (Wl/xP)

31 30 emacs ftw
Posted by: bad guy at February 17, 2013 07:26 PM (Wl/xP)


VI FOREVER!

Posted by: alex at February 17, 2013 07:27 PM (44kMb)

32 Where is my TRS-80?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 17, 2013 07:27 PM (wR+pz)

33 for text editors, it's Open Office or trusty old ass Wordpad

Posted by: The Dude at February 17, 2013 07:27 PM (vJdyz)

34 so when did ftw change from "fuck the world " to "for the win" ?

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:27 PM (usWYv)

35 32 Where is my TRS-80?
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 17, 2013 07:27 PM (wR+pz)


Under the ColecoVision. And dust.

Posted by: alex at February 17, 2013 07:27 PM (44kMb)

36 UltraEdit has Mac & Linux version too.

Posted by: Gran at February 17, 2013 07:27 PM (0pcT0)

37 so when did ftw change from "fuck the world " to "for the win" ?


Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:27 PM (usWYv)

Mid 90's or so, last time I've heard FTW being fuck the world was Tazz in ECW

Posted by: The Dude at February 17, 2013 07:29 PM (vJdyz)

38 vi all the way. I still have my "vi reference" coffee mug.

Posted by: Chris M at February 17, 2013 07:30 PM (4lyMJ)

39 ECW ?

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:30 PM (usWYv)

40 1 So this is what we've come to...Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2013 07:14 PM (GEICT)

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 17, 2013 07:30 PM (fW/Ev)

41 so when did ftw change from "fuck the world " to "for the win" ?

When fucking the world became "winning". So, right around the time Obama was reelected.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 17, 2013 07:30 PM (hpDVh)

42
I'll toss out a couple of tech-blegs.

1. I'm looking for the equivalent of "FileTree" from back-in-the-day. I've looked at the recent versions and they don't do what I need them to do, namely "Search for Files based on text in fiels, Allow Tagging of Said Files, and then Copy Said Files"

2. I'm going to use Outlook until I die as my previous attempts at ThunderBird and GMail resulted in various infarctions. Any recommendations for Outlook extensions (besides Thunderbird and/or Google)?

3. 3D sketch/visualize software for, basically, outdoor artwork / scultpure? I don't need to generate CNC commands, but would like to be able to 'show' ideas to people who don't imagine too good.

Thanks,

and, no, I will not be talked out of Outlook. If I had my way we'd all be using WordPerfect 5.1 and hitting Shift-F7 to print, the way God intended us to.

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at February 17, 2013 07:30 PM (J8DGo)

43 ECW ?


Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:30 PM (usWYv)

Extream Championship Wrestling or if you want to get older, it's original name, Eastern Championship Wrestling

Posted by: The Dude at February 17, 2013 07:31 PM (vJdyz)

44 41
thats an answer i can stand behind

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:31 PM (usWYv)

45 sock-off.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 17, 2013 07:33 PM (J8DGo)

46 Meh. I've been a WordStar fanatic since, oh, version 2.6 or so on CP/M-80, but these days I need unicode support with combining diacritics.

Oddly, the best text editor for that at the moment seems to be good ol' vi on MacOS. 'Bout everything else I've tried messes up, including OpenOffice, Woid, and Google Docs.

Best thing about using vi on MacOS? I can write Lua scripts that fiddle with unicode strings and they Just Work. Well, for definitions of Just Work that include realizing that the Lua string manipulation functions don't know nothin' 'bout no unicode, so there are some things you have to do yourself...

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 17, 2013 07:33 PM (1c58W)

47 I also worked for IBM in the 80's and 90's and remember SLED as well as a lot of other internal use products on the VDISK (internal joke). All of it was written and tested by developers who took great pride in the quality of what they delivered. If the product didn't work they were scorned internally which was a fate worse than death.

Thanks for the memories, Purp!

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 17, 2013 07:33 PM (n8LUb)

48 wrestling ? wow

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:33 PM (usWYv)

49 Thanks for the thoughts about USB V Firewire. I have a drive that will use both that I transfer gigabytes of data to a computer IT doesn't want hooked to the network. The computer I pull from has USB and the one I dump to is firewire. Firewire is twice as fast and one cord, USB is the opposite. But Betamax had better vid quality than VHS and lost and Mercedes doesn't sell as well as Ford so I guess that's the answer/

http://www.g-technology.com/

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 07:34 PM (qo244)

50 Why did USB win over firewire?

To piss me off.

I understand this is only a problem for me and like eight other dudes in the world, but you know what USB cables can do that Fireware cables can't? Vibrate out of things. It's infuriating.

(Also, BBEdit 4 LYFE.)

Posted by: oblig. at February 17, 2013 07:35 PM (cePv8)

51 Looks like MS took the DOS emulationout of the x64 versions of Windows...

I just checked it and it worked OK with DOSBOX on Win7 x64

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox/?source=dlp

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:36 PM (1rU+d)

52 ECW! ECW! ECW!

Also gave us great chants like
You Fucked Up! You Fucked Up! You Fucked Up!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2013 07:36 PM (ZPrif)

53 Anyone else going to watch the NBA All Star game?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 17, 2013 07:37 PM (jucos)

54 no

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:37 PM (usWYv)

55 O/T but tangentially related:


I'm considering going back to school for something in IT that will allow me to work remotely. I need to use my GI Bill bennys before I lose them or the gubmint runs out of cash, so anyone got any suggestions?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 17, 2013 07:37 PM (DvVVN)

56 49 Firewire is twice as fast and one cord, USB is the opposite.

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Twice as cord and one fast?

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 17, 2013 07:38 PM (1c58W)

57 farming

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:38 PM (usWYv)

58 uhhh with techical stuff ?

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:39 PM (usWYv)

59 Moar features! isn't necessarily better. I was nigh to shrieking at my computer at work on Friday about how I wanted my WordPerfect 8 back because someone had sent us a file for revisions that had some Word coding stuck in it somewhere that fubar'd the formatting for the document. I finally had to cp into Notepad to strip out all the formatting and then pretty much start over. It probably would have been faster if I'd just retyped the fucking thing from the start.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 17, 2013 07:39 PM (Gk3SS)

60 technical

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:39 PM (usWYv)

61 57 farming

58 uhhh with techical stuff ?

--------

You mean Chinese gold farming?

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 17, 2013 07:40 PM (1c58W)

62 If any Moron/ette needs a copy editor/proofreader, I'm one, and willing to help other Horde members.

Posted by: Empire1 at February 17, 2013 07:40 PM (bVr4e)

63 MultiEdit.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 17, 2013 07:41 PM (Qxe/p)

64 about how I wanted my WordPerfect 8 back because someone had sent us a
file for revisions that had some Word coding stuck in it


Try OpenOffice for document interchange stuff. There's all sorts of load/store format filters that come with it.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:41 PM (1rU+d)

65 Mul Tee Paaas

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2013 07:41 PM (ZPrif)

66 Hispanic Republican drinks water.....career-ender!

Hispanic Democrat rapes several little girls....nothing to see here.

Posted by: Icedog at February 17, 2013 07:42 PM (9ScGj)

67 61
is that where you melt circuit boards with a torch ?

Posted by: alec at February 17, 2013 07:42 PM (usWYv)

68 I understand this is only a problem for me and like eight other dudes in the world,>>

Actually thinking about it I can fix my problem with a $20 firewire board I'm guessing you cant fix the vibration?

No wait I thought of that fix before but all the slots are filled with imaging and Ethernet boards to read other imaging devices. Crap I thought I had a drunken epiphany guess not.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 07:43 PM (qo244)

69 Watz a text Ebitter?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at February 17, 2013 07:43 PM (cCxiu)

70 the German word would be Zaftig, perhaps even more than just Zaftig...

More than just zaftig would be just plain ol' dick. I'm serious.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2013 07:43 PM (FcR7P)

71 Try OpenOffice for document interchange stuff. There's all sorts of load/store format filters that come with it.


Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:41 PM (1rU+d)



I was going to do that but I don't like dling stuff onto the work computers and I didn't have my laptop with me since the laptop has OpenOffice on it. I found the swearing at it a lot method to work out nicely.


I know I keep flogging it like Molly, but Scrivener is so so so wonderful for fiction writing. It does have a fuckton of features but those features are actually purposeful and/or assist with the very crucial pretend to be writing but actually be fucking around (name generator ftw [ both variants fit now that I think about it ] ). I got it for $20 with the half off coupon from NaNoWriMo in 2010 and it's worth every penny.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 17, 2013 07:46 PM (Gk3SS)

72 67 61 iis that where you melt circuit boards with a torch ?

--------

No, it's where you earn stuff in a video game and sell it for real money to slackers too lazy to earn it themselves.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 17, 2013 07:47 PM (1c58W)

73 i swear another post disappeared

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 17, 2013 07:47 PM (8sCoq)

74 Why did USB win over firewire?

Intel controlled the chipset. "Good enough, cheap enough" has always been the name of the game when competing against Apple.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2013 07:48 PM (FcR7P)

75 Twice as cord and one fast?
>>

Using firewire only requires one cord for power and transfer and it is twice as fast (at least) than USB. I have installed Firewire for my high end microscope cameras too and get much better Frames per second for live viewing.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 07:48 PM (qo244)

76 There's some online document converters that you gan get at from the tubes like this one:

http://document.online-convert.com/convert-to-txt

Not an exhaustive set of filters though...

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:52 PM (1rU+d)

77 Was ORCA running on DOS?

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 17, 2013 07:52 PM (Vk2pI)

78
51
Looks like MS took the DOS emulationout of the x64 versions of Windows...

I just checked it and it worked OK with DOSBOX on Win7 x64

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox/?source=dlp


Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:36 PM (1rU+d)

You can even associate COM files with dosbox if you want the random .com file to run easy.

Posted by: MetaThought at February 17, 2013 07:53 PM (7Z6aE)

79 77
Was ORCA running on DOS?


CP/M...

...on an old Osborne

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:54 PM (1rU+d)

80 are ampersands disabled?

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 17, 2013 07:56 PM (8sCoq)

81 53
Anyone else going to watch the NBA All Star game?


What? Why? and NO!

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 17, 2013 07:57 PM (wR+pz)

82 I like the idea of being able to mount a directory as C: in DOSBOX. You can setup some directory as your DOS sandbox and let all the DOS apps play in just that directory.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:57 PM (1rU+d)

83 &

Posted by: alex at February 17, 2013 07:57 PM (44kMb)

84 I'm boycotting professional sports.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:58 PM (1rU+d)

85 6 Speaking of editors: http://preview.tinyurl.com/moron-toolkit-google
Posted by: alex at February 17, 2013 07:16 PM (44kMb)

&&&

Posted by: Honey BooBoo Proletariat at February 17, 2013 07:59 PM (FsUAO)

86 Off damnable sock!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 75% more Assault & at February 17, 2013 07:59 PM (FsUAO)

87 The NBA is -- by far -- the most hard-core left-wing of the pro sports.

NBA does nothing but support Democrats and shit on Republicans.

I'm not boycotting all pro sports. But fuck the NBA.

Posted by: Infinite Hector at February 17, 2013 08:00 PM (ZPrif)

88 No texting, No Tweeting, No Facebook. No Google....\
No Habla Espaniol...

Posted by: Clemenza at February 17, 2013 08:00 PM (Ihh1C)

89 Posted by: Honey BooBoo Proletariat at February 17, 2013 07:59 PM (FsUAO)

Ahh... another satisfied customer! Enjoy in good health.

Posted by: alex at February 17, 2013 08:00 PM (44kMb)

90 NBleakA? Screw that shat.

Posted by: Red Shirt at February 17, 2013 08:01 PM (FIDMq)

91 @ 87 it is their game....Osammy and friends since Cowens left the Game..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 17, 2013 08:02 PM (Ihh1C)

92 Well, ed is the standard editor.

But having said that:

:q!

Posted by: rfichoke at February 17, 2013 08:03 PM (CcIvJ)

Posted by: Clemenza at February 17, 2013 08:03 PM (Ihh1C)

94 You took something very important for granted in this post.
Figure it out?
You've got at least one reader of this site who doesn't have the faintest idea what a text editor is or what it does.
Bet ya can't guess who that might be.

Posted by: teej at February 17, 2013 08:03 PM (k4ET0)

95 You've got at least one reader of this site who doesn't have the faintest idea what a text editor is or what it does.

Bet ya can't guess who that might be.

Posted by: teej at February 17, 2013 08:03 PM (k4ET0)



Why do you have to hate on the hamsters? Why?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 17, 2013 08:05 PM (Gk3SS)

96 My first text editor was Apple Writer II. Even though our IIe supported lower case letters, this program didn't. Caps were highlighted, and lower case letters were caps without highlighting. I think punctuation was screwed up too. I printed the finished product on an original Apple ImageWriter.

Posted by: Chris M at February 17, 2013 08:06 PM (4lyMJ)

97 CP/M...

...on an old Osborne


Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 07:54 PM

Silly, we learned our lesson and we're working on an upgrade - Heath/Zenith Z-100 with Peachtext and an acoustic-coupled modem. Vibrant and all networky and stuff!

Posted by: ORCA, LLC at February 17, 2013 08:06 PM (bGlsD)

98 You know what else is fun about USB? The connector is *precisely* the same width as an ethernet connector, which means it will slide firmly into an ethernet port and feel like normal, say, if you're reaching behind a PC where you can't see.

In the DOS and early Windows days I used QEdit, paid for with a box and everything.

Notepad++ for plain text now.

I have tried several specialized author's programs and I keep ending up back in Word. In the old days I used Ami Pro land later Word Pro (Lotus bought it from AMI and IBM bought it from Lotus), but they aren't updated now.

I have had stability problems with Open Office.

Whatever company successfully de-bloats software will rule the world. Those Demo Scene programmers who write the 10-minute 3D demos in 64k need to be writing apps. It is more work.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 17, 2013 08:07 PM (bxiXv)

99 Question:you think ORCA was sabotaged or are just all the good tech guys reflexive Democrats?

Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2013 08:08 PM (9XBK2)

100 Tech flash back that sucked and is now much better. The Polaroid MP4 system vs an Cannon EOS Rebel (live view on computer standard) with a Zeiss 50mm f/2.0 Makro-Planar ZE Macro Lens all mounted to the old MP4 stand.

Original MP4 setup http://tinyurl.com/agh6nns
New Lens http://tinyurl.com/2vxncox
New Camera http://tinyurl.com/b9bhq6b

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 08:09 PM (qo244)

101 Why do you have to hate on the hamsters? Why?

Vermin has no purpose

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 17, 2013 08:09 PM (7tVNd)

102 99 Question:you think ORCA was sabotaged or are just all the good tech guys reflexive Democrats?

Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2013 08:08 PM (9XBK2)


I don't usually listen to the Beasty Boys, but when I do, it's Sabotage.

Whether it was bitchy infighting sabotage, leftist sabotage (probably), or hiring the incompetent cousin sabotage I don't know.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 17, 2013 08:09 PM (bxiXv)

103 I listen to them so little I can't even spell their name.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 17, 2013 08:11 PM (bxiXv)

104 I always thought Zaftig meant pleasingly plump

Like if Megan McCain lost about 50-60 lbs. she might then be Zaftig
Stupid and pig-faced, butZaftig...maybe

Posted by: Albie Damned at February 17, 2013 08:12 PM (Yhu4q)

105 Definition of ZAFTIG. of a woman. : having a full rounded figure : pleasingly plump

merriam webster

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 17, 2013 08:14 PM (8sCoq)

106 The connector is *precisely* the same width as an ethernet connector,
which means it will slide firmly into an ethernet port and feel like
normal, say, if you're reaching behind a PC where you can't see.


The Ethernet port on my Toshiba laptop is strategically positioned right between the USB ports...

...I spent two hours one day with the Ethernet port under an illuminated magnifier using a little metal hook I fabricated unfucking the port pins.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 08:15 PM (1rU+d)

107
Vermin has no purpose
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 17, 2013 08:09 PM (7tVNd)

That's what you think.

Posted by: Richard Gere at February 17, 2013 08:15 PM (53riN)

108 It's Ace, apparently.

Posted by: sherlock at February 17, 2013 08:16 PM (qIFL7)

109
Mpron Tech Support:
Switching to a Verizon system. need an email provider, a free one that Verizon provides...is gmail Google? Do not want. If so, anyone know a good one?

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 17, 2013 08:16 PM (QLJPW)

110 Like if Megan McCain lost about 50-60 lbs. she might then be Zaftig

Stupid and pig-faced, butZaftig...maybe>>

So you're saying if there was a way to remotely plug Meggy Macs pie hole she would be good?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 08:16 PM (qo244)

111 If so, anyone know a good one?

I've heard good things about HushMail. Online email with 50% less evil.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 08:19 PM (1rU+d)

112 Microsoft's hotmail is OK.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 17, 2013 08:21 PM (wYVte)

113 gVim rules.

That is all.

Posted by: Naqamel at February 17, 2013 08:21 PM (gcE9n)

114 Anyone know who forked over the dough for Butch Harmon's $1000 hourly rate to correct President Putts-a-Lot feminine yet spastic golf swing?
Hope the fucker doesn't try to sneak it in his expense report

Posted by: Albie Damned at February 17, 2013 08:24 PM (Yhu4q)

115 Still love TextPad for Windows, although I'm not sure it's still being actively developed. I use Notepad++ Portable on a USB stick for our new "thin-client" PCs at work; it's OK. ... And yeah, my fingers still know most of the old WordStar diamond. And ZCPR3 is still awesome!

Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at February 17, 2013 08:25 PM (/S5ss)

116 Question:you think ORCA was sabotaged or are just all the good tech guys reflexive Democrats?


Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2013 08:08 PM (9XBK2)

shit like this just makes me glad that I jumped on Alcoa stock at a good price

Posted by: The Dude at February 17, 2013 08:26 PM (vJdyz)

117 Good hashtag steal over at Twitchy.








#youmightbearepublican http://tinyurl.com/b78uw8r

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 08:27 PM (qo244)

118 So all these new hires from college know vi. you know why? it's FREE and worth every penny.


Posted by: Al at February 17, 2013 08:28 PM (V70Uh)

119 OT(but who cares?) we were talking about hot tv actresses the other day in the HQ(what day?hell,every day) and one name brought up was Terry Farrel from Deepspace 9(later Becker).I found a nudie pic!
terry-farrell-14.jpg (JPEG Image, 684x1280 pixels)

Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2013 08:29 PM (9XBK2)

120 I converted over from vi to vim (the color highlighting for programming languages is just too sweet), but I don't think I'm changing again.

Posted by: Jake at February 17, 2013 08:30 PM (vOqw+)

121 119 Sorry that didn't work,just go here and click on the picture. work.http://www.nudecelebthumbs.nl/nude-celebs/Terry-Farrell.htm

Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2013 08:31 PM (9XBK2)

122 118
So all these new hires from college know vi. you know why? it's FREE and worth every penny.

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Yeah, but it has one virtue: it runs on bloody almost anything.

Haven't seen it for CP/M, but I use it on MacOS, Windows, VMS, and a variety of Unices.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 17, 2013 08:31 PM (1c58W)

123 http://tinyurl.com/b6rvjo5

O/T: DNC headline performer hit with $900,000 tax lien.

Yes we plan!


Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 17, 2013 08:31 PM (bGlsD)

124 'Infinite Wisdom' sucks.

As does emacs.


Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 17, 2013 08:32 PM (O8sZf)

125 Ah-- the doldrums again, with no sign of any strong wind to move the horde along.

Posted by: seamrog at February 17, 2013 08:33 PM (ITCDq)

126
will there be
will there be
will there be
a pre-ONT?

Posted by: seamrog at February 17, 2013 08:34 PM (ITCDq)

127
Hello, (echo)
Is there anybody in there ? (echo)

Posted by: pynk floid at February 17, 2013 08:39 PM (ITCDq)

128 Some of those NBA people don't speak with a Negro accent.


They would be the owners, except for Jordan.

Posted by: Pederast Harry Reid at February 17, 2013 08:40 PM (wR+pz)

129 I still find "vi" to be quite useful

Posted by: Steve Jobs at February 17, 2013 08:44 PM (e8kgV)

130 Of course, Pope Paul did understand the significance of "VI"

Posted by: Steve Jobs at February 17, 2013 08:46 PM (e8kgV)

131 I used this program called PC Write to edit source code back in the day...you can still find it out on the net...was trying to find the source code for it to maybe port it to Linux.

Posted by: CanaDave at February 17, 2013 08:46 PM (x+fpf)

132 I still have bad memories of using vi on a ADM-3 hooked to a PDP-11 running Unix.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 08:47 PM (1rU+d)

133
Tomorrow you will not be allowed to speak of the future or the past.

Congress has designated it as " Present tense Day"

Posted by: constiitutional skolar at February 17, 2013 08:47 PM (ITCDq)

134 I remember SLED. Hand-coded assembler language, but used the larger memory addressing so it could handle files up to a megabyte or something. Had a hex editing mode, IIRC. The editor of choice on my old T1000 and T1000SE.

If I needed more advanced word processing, I'd go to WordVision, which was way ahead of its time. Since the alphanumeric displays didn't allow for a cursor between characters like we have today, WordVision's cursor would sort of "swim" through the characters, pushing them aside as it went.

And then there was Ventura Publisher, a desktop publishing package from the wizards at Xerox PARC. Had that puppy set up on a monochrome portrait graphics display so I could see an entire page at a time, and it would scream on a 286. Proportional fonts, reformatting on the fly, click and drag, splitting columns across pages. All the stuff a Mac eventually had and more long before Steve Jobs stole all his best ideas from Xerox.

Posted by: Socratease at February 17, 2013 08:48 PM (tvpaS)

135 The Ace of spades by Motorhead Just cause.

http://tinyurl.com/b5zedyt

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 08:51 PM (qo244)

136 Tried the download with Win2 and it worked.

Posted by: Bildo (Crash Test Assoc at VETSA) at February 17, 2013 08:52 PM (eToum)

137 I don't know about PC Write, but a couple of phone calls could probably get me the source for PractiWord (a WordStar clone sold by PractiCorp). I know that one was written in using the first real Microsoft C compiler (not the earliest rebranded Lattice compiler)

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 08:52 PM (1rU+d)

138 I remember watching a Charles Browne Christmas where Linux was on a SLED. I don't remember any Windows.

Posted by: constiitutional skolar at February 17, 2013 08:53 PM (ITCDq)

139
The Ace of spades by Motorhead Just cause.

http://tinyurl.com/b5zedyt
Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 08:51 PM (qo244)you know I'm born to lose and gamblins for fools, but that's the way I lik it baby, I don't want to live forever

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at February 17, 2013 08:53 PM (/7Xis)

140 Formatting is for fags with fucked up shit. Pass the brawndo.

Posted by: Truman North and his tired thumbs at February 17, 2013 08:54 PM (I2LwF)

141 evil is a major mode for emacs which is a rather complete implementation of vim.

vim. inside. of. emacs.

for those that like their editors on the um, bbw side.
big. bloated. words.

now with vim for that double text editing juiced in goodness.

huzzah!

Posted by: make it stop! at February 17, 2013 08:54 PM (/QreE)

142 The thing I miss about DOS is when you loaded a new program it went to where you put it. Now programs scatter crap to the 7 corners of your hard drive.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2013 08:54 PM (qo244)

143 Damn, you bastards are no help. Bah!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 17, 2013 08:56 PM (DvVVN)

144 The old IBM gray-scale VGA monitors were very easy on the eyes for extended programming sessions. I still got a few of them stashed away. Sad they were only plain640x480 VGA @60hz though. That limits their utility today.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 08:56 PM (1rU+d)

145 Danica Patrick will be on the pole soon. COOL!

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 17, 2013 08:56 PM (QLJPW)

146
"When other editors (like BRIEF) had text dribbling across a screen on an old 4.77mhz 8088 when you leaned on the PgDn key,"
**************
Okay soifI'm understanding this correctly, and I'm pretty technologically savvy that if I press certain key I will start dribbling in my briefs? Because I've already changed my briefs once today.

Posted by: Guido at February 17, 2013 08:56 PM (XLuH2)

147 I use vim for everything. I don't think I could function without it.

Posted by: David C. or W. at February 17, 2013 08:56 PM (1zS8Y)

148
Let the "man" know we want a new set of threads !

Speak up people, speak truth to flowers, or sumthin.

Posted by: community activist at February 17, 2013 08:57 PM (ITCDq)

149 Hmmm. I'm watching AvP because, hey, it's on and apparently the key to being able to actually see anything that happens in the movie is to forget to change the color settings on the tv back after I've turned the brightness way up to cheat at play Alan Wake.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at February 17, 2013 08:57 PM (Gk3SS)

150 145... too bad its not my pole.. denounced

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at February 17, 2013 08:58 PM (/7Xis)

151 EMACS -- the finest editor ever produced by Torquemada Software Ltd.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 08:58 PM (1rU+d)

152 vim all day, every day.

Posted by: fb at February 17, 2013 08:58 PM (qnMOL)

153 I missed the last thread so let me put in my two cents:

Our voters are more motivated than theirs are; ours merely vote one time each.

If we we can reach people in their home, then we win.

Tell the Portuguese fishing community for instance that democrats want to tax you to put your fishing line in the ocean. They did it in RI and they will do it here.

Tell poor people charter schools you pick are a civil right. The democrats are going to make it so only rich people can afford safe schools that teach

Tell women that democrats want to take away your ability to defend yourself against rapists. They want you raped.


You can do this.

Posted by: Truman North and his tired thumbs at February 17, 2013 08:58 PM (LjmG/)

154
If anyone's looking for text editor suggestions for Linux, try 'Nano'...it's one of the most DOS like, if you came from that world.
The editor that comes with Midnight Commander file manager is not bad too.

Posted by: CanaDave at February 17, 2013 09:01 PM (x+fpf)

155
You can do this.Posted by: Truman North and his tired thumbs at February 17, 2013 08:58 PM (LjmG/)
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Why bother? You said yourself they stole this one and they'll steal the next one.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 17, 2013 09:02 PM (QLJPW)

156
C'mon folks
Protest medical injuries, repeat after me

Sciatica !
Sciatica !

Sciatica !

Posted by: community activist at February 17, 2013 09:05 PM (ITCDq)

157
C'mon folks, I gocha back. C'mon hope, change, free shit

Aw screw it, I gotta golf tomorrow.

Hey Reg. Will you wash my balls ?

Posted by: community activist at February 17, 2013 09:09 PM (ITCDq)

158 old PC epithet

BY THE SILVER SOPRANO SAXOPHONE OF PHILLIPE KAHN!

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 17, 2013 09:10 PM (J8DGo)

159 @66 Child sex soon to be compulsory for the power elite in the Blue Cities, forbidden to all others.
Because.

Posted by: Thorvald at February 17, 2013 09:12 PM (1V6Pv)

160 fwiw - I helpedan 82yo lady who attends my church with a PC she'd bought for her adult daughter.

She commented that she'd been a programmer on the old IBM punchcard systems, but left to work as a tech/admin for a school district back in the early 70s.

She had one of the first connections to a mainframe located in California for data entry/reporting.

Said she managed to spend a lot of time looking busy but actually playing a mainframe version of Battleship.

-

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 17, 2013 09:15 PM (J8DGo)

161 Congress has designated it as " Present tense Day"

"Yes, but who's the best current President?"

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2013 09:16 PM (FcR7P)

162 141
evil is a major mode for emacs which is a rather complete implementation of vim.

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Yeah, well, don't forget that emacs was originally a set of Editing MACros for TECO.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 17, 2013 09:16 PM (1c58W)

163 @101 au contraire, mein herr...
Vermin are the essential raw material for cutting-edge confiture in today's fashion-food industry.
"It tastes like... grasshopper!"

Posted by: Thorvald at February 17, 2013 09:17 PM (1V6Pv)

164
Who penned the Badfinger hit " Come and Get it"?

Who penned Bonnie Raitt's " Let's give them something to talk about"?

What country music star was in "Slingblade "?

Posted by: boring music trivia at February 17, 2013 09:20 PM (ITCDq)

165

Editpad

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 17, 2013 09:20 PM (rLJaJ)

166 All the stuff a Mac eventually had and more long before Steve Jobs stole all his best ideas from Xerox.
Posted by: Socratease at February 17, 2013 08:48 PM (tvpaS)


*yawn*

Posted by: Gran at February 17, 2013 09:36 PM (0pcT0)

167 I use notepad++.

Posted by: sTevo at February 17, 2013 09:39 PM (VMcEw)

168 I use emacs during my day job building corporate websites, and then I go home and use it on my Mac and Linux boxes. It's sometimes hard to get to grips with, but after 20 years I know a lot of its in and outs.

Posted by: David Gillies at February 17, 2013 09:49 PM (wscOM)

169 BY THE SILVER SOPRANO SAXOPHONE OF PHILLIPE KAHN!

Phillipe Khan is the anti-Christ and Delphi is a poorly designed knock off of Interface Builder.

Posted by: rfichoke at February 17, 2013 10:08 PM (CcIvJ)

170
Metapad is only 94k. very nice editor.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 17, 2013 10:13 PM (mJkp9)

171 #17

Steve Jobs screwed the pooch big time. He decided that the world should pay big time for the privilege of using Firewire. He wanted a ridiculous amount per port to be paid to Apple for their IP. This amount went down a few times but by then the hardware industry had gotten tired of explaining that most people didn't have a use for this. The primary application of connecting to digital video cameras still had years to go before becoming a mainstream application.

If you've notice how a lot of 1394 ports are the four pin variety with no power (a plug previously most familiar to users of the Nintendo Gameboy) it's because Sony got fed up waiting for Apple to finalize the spec and went ahead with a version of their own based on the portions that were final and really mattered in terms of the signaling and such. (I have an old Sony laptop that had a four pin port and a separate power port along with an adapter to connect both to a six pin cable.)

The original intent for USB was pretty modest. It was largely inspired by Apple's ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) that had a lot of applications planned for it but was rarely used for anything other than connecting keyboards and mice. Compaq, DEC (later absorbed into Compaq), IBM, Intel, Microsoft, NEC, and Nortel all saw a need for a more versatile port for a wide range of application combined with the OS support that allowed for users to just plug in to any open socket and have it work. This was a pretty big deal in the early 90s, between growing complexity and the looming problem of IRQ availability.

It was expected that USB and Firewire would co-exist with Firewire handling the heavy data loads and USB being the low-speed catch-all. But Jobs almost single handedly guaranteed FireWire would not be included on a majority of new PCs. The digital video market wasn't enough to justify it for most OEMs and once USB 2.0 became a reality camera makers soon decided to go with the numbers.

A few years later, when Apple was becoming seriously profitable, Jobs might have realized it was a bad idea to try to monetize Firewire. But such is history.

Posted by: epobirs at February 17, 2013 10:40 PM (kcfmt)

172 #142

Microsoft was far too trusting of developers back in the early days of Windows. There were always guidelines available to show devs how to do things nice and neat, especially after Win95 established a directory just for software installations.

They didn't really wise up until Vista when a lot of stuff that formerly been mere recommendation became enforced laws. Though not nearly as much as I'd like. The problem is how much old stuff that was badly designed but business critical would be broken. For instance, they finally started having separate directories for program code and program data that was subject to change, like configuration files. This is a basic safety design, minimizing the write activity to areas that should very rarely be changed. A properly designed app should be able to work if its directory in Program Data is wiped out. It just reverts to default state until new data is established.

This is something most OSes coming from the mainframe and mini end of the industry have done for decades. Microsoft came out of the flying by the seat of your pants micro end of the business. It made things a lot more accessible for beginning users and coders but the platform badly needed some adult supervision after so many years.

Posted by: epobirs at February 17, 2013 10:59 PM (kcfmt)

173 #42

What are you running on? Those search functions are largely built-in on recent Windows versions and there are similar features on Mac.

Posted by: epobirs at February 17, 2013 11:02 PM (kcfmt)

174 Does that "up to 640K" mean that it can't edit a 700K file, for example? Is it doing something in memory that limits it to that max file size? Just curious.

Posted by: and irresolute at February 17, 2013 11:19 PM (DBH1h)

175 SLED does its editing in memory and doesn't support fancy shit like HMA or EMS, so its limited to whatever you can stuff into DOS's low 640k.

BRIEF, will spill to disk, and the later versions will use EMS too, so it can handle much larger files.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 11:44 PM (1rU+d)

176 Posted by: @PurpAv at February 17, 2013 11:44 PM (1rU+d)

Have used BRIEF. Danke Vielmals for the info re SLED. Using Mono and VS at present, but knowing is good.

Posted by: and irresolute at February 17, 2013 11:55 PM (DBH1h)

177 171
If you've
notice how a lot of 1394 ports are the four pin variety with no power (a
plug previously most familiar to users of the Nintendo Gameboy)


The Gameboy connector is keyed differently. Different corners of the connector lopped off.

The original
intent for USB was pretty modest. It was largely inspired by Apple's
ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) that had a lot of applications planned for it
but was rarely used for anything other than connecting keyboards and
mice.


ADB was, as I recall, pretty much i2c with a higher-level protocol imposed. DEC swiped it pretty much outright for some of its MIPS-based workstations, but still only used it for keyboards and mice.

The USB protocol is more like bisync with different CRC polynomials. Annoyingly, USB uses different polynomials for different parts of the transaction. Had they stuck with bisync, they could have leveraged off-the-shelf IP for anything from 8051s on up.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 18, 2013 12:07 AM (1c58W)

178 vi or nothing. I have yet to find anything that can touch it. For all the windows folks, there's a version for it, too.

Posted by: Former Lurker at February 18, 2013 12:46 AM (Yoym7)

179 #25 "A good free text editor for Windows is Notepad++."

I'll add another vote for Notepad++. I've used it for years. Stable, clean interface, and Configurable enough to serve for almost any purpose.

Posted by: GalosGann at February 18, 2013 10:21 AM (T3KlW)

180
Vi. Sine qua non (esp for programmers). The mouse is for pussies.

Posted by: Huusker at February 18, 2013 11:00 AM (PaKLC)

181 @51 Looks like MS took the DOS emulationout of the x64 versions of Windows...

I just checked it and it worked OK with DOSBOX on Win7

Win x64 dropped support for 16 bit apps, x86 still has it.

Posted by: jbarntt at February 18, 2013 08:59 PM (UNFot)






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