Biden: Our Gun Control Plan Isn't Going to Reduce Mass Shootings, and Isn't Even Guaranteed to Reduce Shooting Deaths by a Thousand Per Year

This isn't new news; it dates from February 1. But very little of last nights State of the Union was new, either (although I think Obama did add "self-healing electrical grids" to his laundry list).

So as Obama's speech was recylced, as it always is, Joe Biden's words from a couple of weeks ago are still relevant.


Posted by: Ace at 02:17 PM



Comments

1 Breaking news: Ace stomps self.

Posted by: chique d'afrique on her phone at February 13, 2013 02:19 PM (6zgse)

2 Ace, you miss the point .... If it saves one life, its worth it.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:20 PM (gmeXX)

3 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 13, 2013 02:20 PM (8y9MW)

4 What happened? No, Ace, and then 2 posts in less than 30 minutes?

Posted by: L, elle at February 13, 2013 02:20 PM (0PiQ4)

5 I wonder how many 9mm shells I can fit in my nose?

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 13, 2013 02:20 PM (RuRil)

6 No "gun control" law will save "even one life." It may mean the killer has to use a crossbow (or a longbow, or a flying squid) to kill, but it won't save people's lives.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 13, 2013 02:21 PM (8y9MW)

7 It's not about saving lives, it's about taking away guns.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 13, 2013 02:21 PM (P7hip)

8 Yesterday all over again. Ace, speed posting

Posted by: L, elle at February 13, 2013 02:21 PM (0PiQ4)

9 Oh and since long guns are only responsible for less than a thousand homicides a year we're doing this just because you know "because"....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:22 PM (LRFds)

10
Self healing electrical grids are the human answer to having to regrow your penis. Defeat the slugs!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 13, 2013 02:22 PM (p/cQy)

11 If only there was a prominent Black Man who would stand up and denounce the black on black murders that are the majority of murders in the Cities of America.

60% in NYC. What percentage in Chicago? I'm not racist. I wish these young black men would grow up in a safe world.

Posted by: smileynh at February 13, 2013 02:22 PM (hlZx/)

12 The key word is "control."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:22 PM (wbmaj)

13 Joe Biden's words from a couple of weeks ago are still relevant.

I can't believe you used the words Joe Biden and relevant in the same sentence.

Posted by: Vizinni at February 13, 2013 02:23 PM (O7Q1u)

14 If California only had more restrictive gun laws, I wouldn't be a Crispy Critter right now.

Posted by: Chris Dorner at February 13, 2013 02:23 PM (DrWcr)

15 2 SH,

heh we need to redo the "if it saves one life" sharing circle....

"if it saves one life we need to dismantle all playgrounds"

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:23 PM (LRFds)

16 Medal of Honorwinner declines White House invite.
Look at the picture in the Washington times of the ceremony

Posted by: MikeB at February 13, 2013 02:23 PM (IDH+x)

17 I wish these young black men would grow up in a safe world.

I've been informed that this sentiment is RAAAAACIST!!

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 13, 2013 02:23 PM (8y9MW)

18 I certainly hope that everyone knows I was kidding with the save one life rhetoric.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:23 PM (gmeXX)

19 #11 Maybe Detroit, Atlanta,or Philadelphia or even Baltimore?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:23 PM (wbmaj)

20 No follow-up questions? Oh yeah, journalists don't do that when D's are in charge.

"So if it won't stop massacres what is the purpose of your drive for more gun control?" That wouldn't be hard. OTOH I didn't actually watch the clip so maybe someone did follow up. Sorry I just can't stomach watching politicians.

Posted by: BuckIV at February 13, 2013 02:24 PM (gedHR)

21 14 Chris Dorner,

if it saves one life they should have passed a law saying "you cannot fire Chris Dorner"

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:24 PM (LRFds)

22 "if it saves one life we need to dismantle all playgrounds"

Democrats already want to do that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 13, 2013 02:24 PM (8y9MW)

23 I suppose Biden will need to extend and clarify his remarks.

What a douche.

_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 13, 2013 02:24 PM (J8DGo)

24 Sven, I thought we already did that.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:24 PM (gmeXX)

25 Just out to protect their phoney-baloney jobs.

Give Me a Harumph!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Penguins! They're Everywhere! at February 13, 2013 02:24 PM (hLRSq)

26 I'm surprised, with it being Joe Biden and all, that he didn't claim it would save billions of American lives per year.

Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (Os+6p)

27 #14 Police ultimately decided not to use guns against Dorner because they feared political backlash.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (wbmaj)

28 My husband's a buffoon, but he did marry a doctor.

Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (gmeXX)

29 We should get rid of all swimming pools. If it saves even one child's life, it's worth it.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (DrWcr)

30 "Biden: Our Gun Control Plan Isn't...."

Gun Safety. GUN SAFETY.

Sheesh.

Posted by: BuddyPC at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (jfUIE)

31 If it makes just one person feel kind of smug for a little while, it will have been worth it.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (+lsX1)

32 one quick rhetorical point:

Subtleties are lost on the unsubtle.
_

Which is to say the ObamaBots need to be (rhetorically) sliced with a fucking hammer (literally).

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (J8DGo)

33 22 Allen G,

if it saves one life we must outlaw all economic activity

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (LRFds)

34 "you cannot fire Chris Dorner"

***

They should have been more, uh, specific.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (piMMO)

35 Police ultimately decided not to use guns against Dorner because they feared political backlash.
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (wbmaj)

Just against newspaper deliverywomen.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (DrWcr)

36
#4, "What happened"
Let me guess: you're new here, no?

Posted by: Jess1 at February 13, 2013 02:26 PM (lbiWb)

37 "Medal of Honorwinner declines White House invite."

I've only ever met one guy who wore the Medal of Honor, quietly and humbly.

He would gently correct this. No one "wins" the MoH. It's not a contest or a trophy from a sporting event.

If you have to refer to someone having received it, say that it was "awarded".

Posted by: torquewrench at February 13, 2013 02:26 PM (gqT4g)

38 According to Dr. Jill Biden, this law will save one life.

I'm sold!

Posted by: logprof at February 13, 2013 02:26 PM (4pNjZ)

39 35
Police ultimately decided not to use guns against Dorner because they feared political backlash.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (wbmaj)



Just against newspaper deliverywomen.

And a surfer.

Posted by: BuckIV at February 13, 2013 02:26 PM (gedHR)

40
Perhaps this will be the thing that the NRA finally gets off its ass and seizes on for a media blitz. It's about freaking time they used some of their newfound members' cash.

I rejoined a few weeks back based on their new and improved give-no-ground outlook as opposed to their old strategy of capitulation. I've already been burned by the NRA. The next time *will* be the last time.

Posted by: Jaws at February 13, 2013 02:26 PM (4I3Uo)

41 24 SH,

well there's still a playground here in Indiana this evil MUST be stopped....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:26 PM (LRFds)

42 Heh, Bruce Willis is actually on Jim Rome's show being interviewed.

Posted by: logprof at February 13, 2013 02:26 PM (4pNjZ)

43 #34 If they had just let him resign, they wouldn't have had to fire him.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:27 PM (wbmaj)

44 "you cannot fire Chris Dorner" *** They should have been more, uh, specific.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (piMMO)

They started figuratively, and ended up quite literal in the end.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 13, 2013 02:27 PM (DrWcr)

45 35 Insomniac,

if it saves one life we must outlaw newspapers...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:27 PM (LRFds)

46 Joe is the smartest guy in the room unless Our King Choc-o-jesu is there.

Posted by: Earvin at February 13, 2013 02:27 PM (bGlsD)

47 I can't believe you lost to these guys.

Posted by: Michael Dukakis at February 13, 2013 02:27 PM (NF2Bf)

48 Why does "Biden Gaffe?" on the screen still have a question mark next to it? It's not a question, it's an eventuality whenever he opens mouth.

Posted by: Heralder at February 13, 2013 02:27 PM (+xmn4)

49 #39 In the end, the police just couldn't use guns against one of their own.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:28 PM (wbmaj)

50 And raising tax rates has nothing to do with actually raising tax receipts for the government. Give this administration credit, they flat out tell us that their plans have nothing to do with what their supporters claim they will do.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:28 PM (gmeXX)

51 Waiter - I asked for a BUD Light.
_

Posted by: Chris Dorner at February 13, 2013 02:28 PM (J8DGo)

52 If it sends one conservative to jail, the law will be considered worth it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2013 02:28 PM (u5ozF)

53 if it saves one life we must outlaw newspapers...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:27 PM (LRFds)

And surfing. Also, pickup trucks.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 13, 2013 02:28 PM (DrWcr)

54 Nice on the "fire Chris Dorner" bit....AoSHQ come for the Kitty pics stay for the gallows humor

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:28 PM (LRFds)

55 CNN was pushing the Dorner / gun control angle this morning quoting his "manifesto" where it says "that guns are too easy to get"

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 13, 2013 02:28 PM (nTgAI)

56 Ooo, the new Die Hard has what Willis calls "a very nice bad girl."

Probably not gonna watch in the theater, but will certainly watch.

Posted by: logprof at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (4pNjZ)

57 And surfing. Also, pickup trucks.

***

1/2 lb cheeseburgers and Krispy Kremes

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (piMMO)

58 It wouldn't even reduce the number of cabins burnt to the ground each year.

Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (FcR7P)

59 It's not about saving lives and never was.

Posted by: joncelli at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (RD7QR)

60 if it saves one life we must outlaw all economic activity

Yep. They want to do that one, too.

I was thinking about this the other day, and I came to this conclusion: Conservatives are people (by and large) who have escaped the cavern.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (8y9MW)

61 Self healing electrical grids are the human answer to having to regrow your penis. Defeat the slugs!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 13, 2013 02:22 PM (p/cQy) p/i]

Laughing... so ... hard....!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (4df7R)

62 I wish the Republican response by Rubio would have included a room full of possible victims of harm and crime if it were not for them being armed.

That little stunt last night repeating 'they deserve a vote' 'they deserve a vote' 'they deserve a vote' was sickening.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (m2CN7)

63 Wasn't it Iowahawk who noted the deaths caused by media personalities?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (4cRnj)

64 if it saves just one life we should eliminate skateboarding

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:30 PM (LRFds)

65 >>>Joe Biden's words from a couple of weeks ago are still relevant.

Really? I don't think most people remember that far back.

Posted by: Bigby's Htiching Thumb at February 13, 2013 02:30 PM (3ZtZW)

66 22
"if it saves one life we need to dismantle all playgrounds"

Democrats already want to do that.


I regret to inform you that your attempt at ludicrous overstatement to make a point has been superseded by an even more ludicrous reality.
http://tinyurl.com/bv92uua

Posted by: pep at February 13, 2013 02:30 PM (YXmuI)

67 #55 So are matches.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:30 PM (wbmaj)

68 Thanks to the Liberal Democrat Union Member Media based in New York and Los Angeles, we have a fool in charge of the country.



The media elected a fool. The media need to be torn apart and reconstituted without the bias.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 13, 2013 02:30 PM (bb5+k)

69 RE: the self-healing electrical grids. Am I the only one who thinks that Obama's mental image of a "self-healing electrical grid" is a picture of Wolverine holding two lightbulbs?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 13, 2013 02:30 PM (4df7R)

70 28---" My husband's a buffoon, but he did marry a doctor."
Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden at February 13, 2013 02:25 PM (gmeXX)

Yeah right, honey, you're a "doctor!"
Someone with a doctorate in education, that is., which makes you a doctor of buffoonery.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 13, 2013 02:30 PM (C8mVl)

71 Won't self-healing electrical gridscause a lot of union workers to lose their jobs?

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (gmeXX)

72 55CNN was pushing the Dorner / gun control angle this morning quoting his "manifesto" where it says "that guns are too easy to get"

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 13, 2013 02:28 PM (nTgAI)


Sad so many fail to make the connection that making them easier to get would have ended this asshole's shooting spree before it became a spree.

Next up: Rapists against self defense and Progressives against masculinity.

Posted by: Heralder at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (+xmn4)

73 We are not going to accomplish anything, but we need to ACT because the people ARE DEMANDING us to do SOMETHING!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (xmcEQ)

74 Camp of the Saints. Read it and weep.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (wbmaj)

75 I can underline my &'s!

Posted by: alex at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (4YlNx)

76 >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

WTF are you talking about? STFU troll

/heh

Posted by: Bigby's Htiching Thumb at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (3ZtZW)

77 60 Allen G,

Pretty much I was getting my oil changed and the owner of the shop I use asked what I thought of the SotU....

I said, "Randy why aren't you paying your poor techs 91 dollars an hour?"

He started laughing....

They make 11.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (LRFds)

78 Some outlets are reporting that the police started the fire on pupose to burn him out. This coupled with the early shootings by policeof the newspaper women and the surfer tells me this was a planned execution from the beginning.
Interesting approach by law enforcement.

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (nTgAI)

79 #64 And snowmobiling.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (wbmaj)

80 I regret to inform you that your attempt at ludicrous overstatement to
make a point has been superseded by an even more ludicrous reality.


I knew it wasn't an overstatement. Why else do you think we never see see-saws or merry-go-rounds in parks anymore?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 13, 2013 02:32 PM (8y9MW)

81 "He's a rough, tough lover with a sentimental plan" as Aretha Franklin might have put it.


---Jill Biden

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 13, 2013 02:32 PM (4cRnj)

82 I don't 'need' an AR-15 just like people don't need a jet ski or a four wheeler.

Guess which ones cause more pre-teen deaths or deaths as a whole.

Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2013 02:32 PM (m2CN7)

83 NO ONE NEEDS TEN JOE BIDENS TO KILL A BOTTLE!!

Posted by: The Honorable Andwew Cuomo at February 13, 2013 02:32 PM (QAhHk)

84 She's a lib, but my GOODNESS the things I would do to her with my........thoughts.

Posted by: Sponge at February 13, 2013 02:32 PM (xmcEQ)

85 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (8y9MW)



Great point. The media is responsible for banking the fire so the shadows are ever more indistinct as time goes on!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 13, 2013 02:32 PM (Cnqmv)

86 Do the union's know about Obama's self-healing electrical grids. These sound like a much bigger job killer than the ATM.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:32 PM (gmeXX)

87 Self healing electrical grids are the human answer to having to regrow your penis. Defeat the slugs! Posted by: Guy Mohawk
***

Once they go slug...
You will never defeat us!

Posted by: Sea Slug at February 13, 2013 02:32 PM (uhftQ)

88 "if it saves one life we need to dismantle all playgrounds"

****

I LOVED the merry-go-round thing. We would push it as fast as we could and then hop on. Whoever didn't get slung off was the winner.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2013 02:33 PM (piMMO)

89 The best thing about self-healing electrical grids? They won't cost one dime more.

Posted by: Fritz at February 13, 2013 02:33 PM (UzPAd)

90 If it saves only one life, we need to restrict youtube.

Posted by: BuddyPC at February 13, 2013 02:33 PM (jfUIE)

91 I will not pre-judge the police in this matter. Perhaps it was an electrical fire, smoking in bed, you know, just something.....

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:33 PM (wbmaj)

92 Our gun control laws won't reduce the number of shooting deaths, but hey, we're at least doing something. Not like those Republican h8ers.

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at February 13, 2013 02:33 PM (QW+AD)

93 We must outlaw fire. If it saves only one child's life, it's worth it.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 13, 2013 02:34 PM (DrWcr)

94 80 Allen G,

The playground where my mom grew up two counties away in Troy Ohio had a witch's hat.....

wonderful playground ride that can kill you......

it did kill a kid in the 60s and still it endured in my childhood....

the bastards removed it 5 years ago.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:34 PM (LRFds)

95 He's a rough, tough lover with a sentimental plan" as Aretha Franklin might have put it.---Jill Biden

---
This isn't really the VP's wife is it. Because she is Dr. Jill Biden.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:34 PM (gmeXX)

96 I was actually first. Wow.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 13, 2013 02:34 PM (6zgse)

97 78
Some outlets are reporting that the police started the fire on pupose to
burn him out. This coupled with the early shootings by policeof the
newspaper women and the surfer tells me this was a planned execution
from the beginning.

Interesting approach by law enforcement.



Posted by: The Jackhole at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (nTgAI)

I'm guessing they decided a trial would be a bit too...revealing.

Posted by: joncelli at February 13, 2013 02:34 PM (RD7QR)

98 Won't self-healing electrical gridscause a lot of union workers to lose their jobs?


***

No. They'll just form a new union in order to keep the SuperBowl lit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2013 02:34 PM (piMMO)

99 Wow, just read from a friend on FB about the Establishment Guy the GOP is running for the Senate in Massachusett(e)s. To say Avik Roy would be a fan of him is putting it lightly.

As my friend put it, does the Mass. GOP ever wonder why they're only 11%?

Posted by: logprof at February 13, 2013 02:35 PM (4pNjZ)

100 Next up: Rapists against self defense and Progressives against masculinity.
Posted by: Heralder at February 13, 2013 02:31 PM (+xmn4)


*clears throat*

Link to Twitchy: http://tiny.cc/v0lgsw

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 13, 2013 02:35 PM (4df7R)

101 This Dorner thing--are we sure ATF wasn't on the scene?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:35 PM (wbmaj)

102 Has anyone seen my baseball?
(movie linereference)

Posted by: Sea Slug at February 13, 2013 02:35 PM (uhftQ)

103 The first hit at google (before the speech ) takes you to ABB--a company based in Switzerland--that also seems to be into high speed rail.

Here is there pdf on 'self healing power grids" looks like it involves satellites in space.

What about cutting NASA you ask?

Shut up!


http://tinyurl.com/bo37y2g

Posted by: tasker at February 13, 2013 02:35 PM (r2PLg)

104 If it saves only one child's life, it's worth it.

And bathing!

Posted by: The French at February 13, 2013 02:35 PM (FcR7P)

105 8 Yesterday all over again. Ace, speed posting

---

I bet exactly the same thing happened when he fell of the non-fapping wagon

11 quatloos

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 13, 2013 02:36 PM (SO2Q8)

106 63 Wasn't it Iowahawk who noted the deaths caused by media personalities?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 13, 2013 02:29 PM (4cRnj)

--Yes. I think it was posted on another site, too, maybe as David Burge.

Posted by: logprof at February 13, 2013 02:36 PM (4pNjZ)

107 102 Has anyone seen my baseball?
(movie linereference)

---

FRANKS AND BEANS! FRANKS AND BEANS!

Posted by: Warren at February 13, 2013 02:36 PM (e0xKF)

108 Obama has no compassion. I could never live of $9 an hour, and I'm only a family of 3 right now. The minimum wage should be at least $50 an hour. Though I think anyone on minimum wage would prefer $100.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:36 PM (gmeXX)

109 Here is *their* pdf on 'self healing power grids" looks like it involves satellites in space.

Posted by: tasker at February 13, 2013 02:37 PM (r2PLg)

110 "If it saves just one life...."

Kind of a comparative worth statement, isn't it? Since Obama can vaporize Americans without trial, I mean.

Posted by: Bigby's Htiching Thumb at February 13, 2013 02:37 PM (3ZtZW)

111 Ace you're free to vote against gun control. just know that if you do you're an accomplice to the Gabby Giffords shooting.

/bipartisan Obama

Posted by: JDP at February 13, 2013 02:37 PM (60GaT)

112 Keep in mind all rifles are responsible for fewer deaths a year (~400) than autoerotic asphyxiation (~600)

Posted by: BSR at February 13, 2013 02:37 PM (CBCxo)

113 Freedom Kills

Posted by: Every Liberal's brain at February 13, 2013 02:37 PM (SO2Q8)

114 The playground where my mom grew up two counties away in Troy Ohio had a witch's hat.....

Exactly. "Had."

And it's not just actually dangerous rides/toys. Remember the spring horses (not always horses, of course, but animals mounted on a post and spring so you could "ride" back and forth on them)? Yeah, you don't find those anymore, either.

If liberals had their way, we would never leave our homes, except to go to the Certified Organic, Locally Produced Farmers' Market, or to school. We would, however, be required to do 60 minutes a day of calisthenics or other relatively safe exercise (if they could find a 100% safe exercise, they'd use that, instead), and eat only Soylent Green Certified Organic, Locally Produced Vegetables.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 13, 2013 02:38 PM (8y9MW)

115 Gabby Giffords for Pope?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:38 PM (wbmaj)

116 108 Obama has no compassion. I could never live of $9 an hour, and I'm only a family of 3 right now. The minimum wage should be at least $50 an hour. Though I think anyone on minimum wage would prefer $100.


Obama's half brother will be lucky to make

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2013 02:38 PM (u5ozF)

117 They should just outlaw death. Problem solved.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 13, 2013 02:38 PM (4cRnj)

118 I was actually first. Wow.

Don't get cocky, kid.

Posted by: Han Solo at February 13, 2013 02:38 PM (QAhHk)

119 I don't know how this fits in to this discussion, but somehow... crunchy figs.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 13, 2013 02:38 PM (4df7R)

120 I'm still waiting for my AC to be run on switchgrass.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:38 PM (gmeXX)

121 Krispy Kremes

Now just a gol-danged minute there, hombre!

Posted by: LAPD at February 13, 2013 02:39 PM (L7hol)

122 I'm guessing they decided a trial would be a bit too...revealing.


Posted by: joncelli at February 13, 2013 02:34 PM (RD7QR)


Think of all the tax payer dollars they saved by eliminating the need for a trial (but if it saves only one life).

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 13, 2013 02:39 PM (Cnqmv)

123 I'm still waiting for my AC to be run on switchgrass.
Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:38 PM (gmeXX)


I'm still waiting for my g-ddamn unicorn.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 13, 2013 02:39 PM (4df7R)

124 Can Obama be President and Pope? MSNBC wants to know.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:40 PM (wbmaj)

125 Some only howl and bare their fangs. You don't need a gun to stomp figs.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 13, 2013 02:40 PM (+I8Mq)

126 115 Gabby Giffords for Pope?

--

We want someone Holy, not Hole-y

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 13, 2013 02:40 PM (SO2Q8)

127 Or, how about self-healing gun shot wounds?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 13, 2013 02:40 PM (4cRnj)

128 >>>And it's not just actually dangerous rides/toys. Remember the spring horses (not always horses, of course, but animals mounted on a post and spring so you could "ride" back and forth on them)? Yeah, you don't find those anymore, either.

**Having visions of a junkyard in Ohio filled solely with disused playground equipment. Local stories say it is haunted by the severed feet of 7yo kids**

Posted by: Bigby's Htiching Thumb at February 13, 2013 02:41 PM (3ZtZW)

129 FRANKS AND BEANS! FRANKS AND BEANS!
Posted by: Warren
***

I'm dating this old hag to get to her hot friend.

Posted by: Sea Slug at February 13, 2013 02:41 PM (uhftQ)

130 The Catholic Church needs Gabby as pope like it needs a hole in the head.

Posted by: logprof at February 13, 2013 02:41 PM (4pNjZ)

131 Obama would be the first pope not to take on a new name.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:41 PM (gmeXX)

132 #127 St. Gabby-Healer of gunshot wounds

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:41 PM (wbmaj)

133 Some outlets are reporting that the police started the fire on pupose to
burn him out. This coupled with the early shootings by policeof the
newspaper women and the surfer tells me this was a planned execution
from the beginning.

Interesting approach by law enforcement.


The radio communications make it obvious that the police did intentionally set the fire. That doesn't mean it was an execution. Why would they go into the cabin where Dorner has the advantage? He could have chosen to exit the cabin with his hands raised. If they had shot him at that point, sure, execution.

Regarding the police shooting the newspaper delivery women and the ramming of the surfer, that was insane. It is a far better point of evidence that some police never wanted to take Dorner alive.


Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2013 02:42 PM (3pWxn)

134 Can Obama be President and Pope? MSNBC wants to know.


Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:40 PM

He'll be President of the U.N. after this gig. No bullshit

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 13, 2013 02:42 PM (+I8Mq)

135 #131 Pope Barry the First?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:42 PM (wbmaj)

136 Slightly OT, how can anyone recall Biden's behavior during his debate with Ryan and not see that he knew the fix was in for the election?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 13, 2013 02:42 PM (39GM8)

137 I need a self muting TV. We can put a man on the moon, but we can't get me a TV that shuts off on specific voice patterns.

Posted by: Whatev at February 13, 2013 02:43 PM (A7Wh1)

138 If it saves just one life, it's worth the cost of three more lives.
.
Only it won't save one life... But it will cost.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at February 13, 2013 02:43 PM (XKkqC)

139 I'm still waiting for my AC to be run on switchgrass.

***

Back during the big war, Edison worked on an alternative to using petroleum products to create rubber.

He used the Goldenrod plant.

It worked, but the amount of effort and the quantities required made it an illogical alternative, so the project was halted.

I keep expecting that, any day now, Obama will announce a plan to supply the U.S. military with Goldenrod tires.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2013 02:43 PM (piMMO)

140 Carbon Tax bill coming Thursday to Senate

Under the legislation, a fee on carbon pollution emissions would fund historic investments in energy efficiency and sustainable energy technologies such as wind, solar, geothermal and biomass. The proposal also would provide rebates to consumers to offset any efforts by oil, coal or gas companies to raise prices.

* * *
This isn't socialism, amigos. This here is straight up fascism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2013 02:43 PM (qrpxS)

141 I need a self muting TV. We can put a man on the moon, but we can't get me a TV that shuts off on specific voice patterns.>>

Yes a B chip would be a nice feature.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 13, 2013 02:44 PM (81UWZ)

142 "Self-healing electrical grids"? Wow.

Why doesn't Obama just mandate the use of Nicholas Tesla's idea for transmitting electrical power through the air? Make electrical grids obsolete.

Posted by: Socratease at February 13, 2013 02:44 PM (3V4IJ)

143 140 weft cut-loop,

FDR was a Fascist and often a proud one.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 13, 2013 02:44 PM (LRFds)

144 I don't know how this fits in to this discussion, but somehow... crunchy figs.

I read that as Crunchy Frog.

(Mr. Milton describes the sweetmeat as using only the finest baby frogs, which are dew-picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in finest-quality spring water, lightly killed, and then sealed in a succulent Swiss quintuple smooth treble cream milk chocolate envelope and lovingly frosted with glucose. The bones are left in deliberately due to circular reasoning: "If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it?")

Ah....Monty Python!

Posted by: LAPD at February 13, 2013 02:44 PM (L7hol)

145 130
The Catholic Church needs Gabby as pope like it needs a hole in the head.

Posted by: logprof at February 13, 2013 02:41 PM (4pNjZ)

ISWYDT. And that'll get you another 10 minutes in purgatory.

Posted by: joncelli at February 13, 2013 02:44 PM (RD7QR)

146 Last night I watched "Skyfall" on PPV while the SOTU was on.

Now, I don't want to step on Ace by saying in a paragraph what he can say in 11,000 words, butI wasn't impressed.

Posted by: jwest at February 13, 2013 02:45 PM (ZDsRL)

147 134: Usually about this time the media will demand a gay abortionist be made pope to "make the church more modern". I guess Obama's close enough

Posted by: BSR at February 13, 2013 02:45 PM (CBCxo)

148 Some outlets are reporting that the police started the fire on pupose to burn him out. This coupled with the early shootings by policeof the newspaper women and the surfer tells me this was a planned execution from the beginning. Interesting approach by law enforcement. The radio communications make it obvious that the police did intentionally set the fire. That doesn't mean it was an execution. Why would they go into the cabin where Dorner has the advantage? He could have chosen to exit the cabin with his hands raised. If they had shot him at that point, sure, execution.Regarding the police shooting the newspaper delivery women and the ramming of the surfer, that was insane. It is a far better point of evidence that some police never wanted to take Dorner alive.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2013 02:42 PM (3pWxn)

The guy was a turd, butI believe if they had him flat on his belly naked he would have wound up dead.

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 13, 2013 02:45 PM (nTgAI)

149 Ace, you miss the point .... If it saves one life, its worth it.


At this point, what does it matter???!!!eleventy!!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2013 02:45 PM (GFM2b)

150 Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. We're fucked. Period.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:45 PM (wbmaj)

151
I could be wrong, but I get the impression they're kind of over the gun control thing. Yeah, they'll still pay lip service to it, but it doesn't really get them where they want to go, and I suspect they thought there would be more of a groundswell for it after the... whatever it was that happened a couple months ago.

People forget. And maybe they'll reintroduce it after the next "tragedy," but for now it's on the back burner.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2013 02:45 PM (TOk1P)

152 >>>The radio communications make it obvious that the police did intentionally set the fire. That doesn't mean it was an execution

Waco Rules. So all the various commenters who talk about militias and whatnot understand: This is their answer to you, and large numbers of your fellow citizens will not care.

Posted by: Bigby's Htiching Thumb at February 13, 2013 02:46 PM (3ZtZW)

153 Self healing electrical grids are the human answer to having to regrow your penis. Defeat the slugs!............
Dude. You understand that we're married. That's why it's detachable mmmkay?

Posted by: Sea Slug at February 13, 2013 02:46 PM (uVah9)

154 #130 You say ten Hail Gabbys right away. Followed by an "Our Father, who art in the White House, hallowed be thy name....

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 13, 2013 02:47 PM (wbmaj)

155 I could be wrong, but I get the impression they're kind of over the gun control thing. Yeah, they'll still pay lip service to it, but it doesn't really get them where they want to go, and I suspect they thought there would be more of a groundswell for it after the... whatever it was that happened a couple months ago.

-----

All the more reason for the GOP to keep bringing it up. People vote on guns. Make it a huge issue in 2014.

Posted by: SH at February 13, 2013 02:47 PM (gmeXX)

156 Remember the spring horses (not always horses, of course, but animals mounted on a post and spring so you could "ride" back and forth on them)? Yeah, you don't find those anymore, either. ---
Ah yes, i remember the playground in elementary school, all those nice steel toys to climb 15 feet up on...anchored in asphalt. But they made sure to surround them with rubber padding. It about 2 inches think and was the consistency of an all-weather steel-belted tire.
Only time i ever got hurt was slipping on a piece of ice in 3rd grade and sliding scrotum-first into a steel pole. That's the day the school nurse <s>molested</s> examined me. Sweet, sweet memories.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 13, 2013 02:47 PM (SO2Q8)

157 steve cohen thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2013 02:47 PM (piMMO)

158 The radio communications make it obvious that the police did intentionally set the fire. That doesn't mean it was an execution Waco Rules. So all the various commenters who talk about militias and whatnot understand: This is their answer to you, and large numbers of your fellow citizens will not care.
Posted by: Bigby's Htiching Thumb at February 13, 2013 02:46 PM (3ZtZW)

That's my point

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 13, 2013 02:47 PM (nTgAI)

159 Waco Rules. So all the various commenters who talk about militias and
whatnot understand: This is their answer to you, and large numbers of
your fellow citizens will not care.



I cared. Now slide over them buffalo wings.

Posted by: Chris Dorner's Mom at February 13, 2013 02:47 PM (8ZskC)

160 #131 Pope Barry the First?
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First crypto-muslim pope

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 13, 2013 02:48 PM (SO2Q8)

161 I could be wrong, but I get the impression they're kind of over the gun
control thing.>>

Being the only positive economic tool they have, they can't pass it but they must continue to bleat about it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 13, 2013 02:48 PM (81UWZ)

162 BTW. Next one I grow back is gonna be effin huge! They'll call me the Ron Jeremy of the Slugs! Besides. I'm better looking.

Posted by: Sea Slug at February 13, 2013 02:49 PM (uVah9)

163 Think of all the tax payer dollars they saved by eliminating the need for a trial

And don't think of how much they'll uh appropriate for all that "overtime" spent terrorizing (and randomly attempted-murdering) the populace from Baja to Boise.

Hey, let's bet! What's more money, a week of LAPD OT, or the GDP of Mexico?

Posted by: oblig. at February 13, 2013 02:49 PM (cePv8)

164 One danger of the corruption of the courts is that it's plain for police to see that the bad guys are getting too many indulgences. If they know for certain that some little gang-banger has killed again, and is likely to get another slap on the wrist, I can see them calculating that it's better just to kill them in a "shootout". The problem is that is a very long step down the road to lawlessness and tyranny.

Obama has made the same calculation, and has decided it's easier to just kill them. It's simpler legally to kill rather than to try to keep them (Guantanamo), or investigate them (water-boarding).

Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2013 02:51 PM (3pWxn)

165 I'm thinking Dorner got fired from the LAPD just because he was too good a shot.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 13, 2013 02:52 PM (SO2Q8)

166 I couldn't watch TFG last night, nor ever again for that matter. Seriously. When the fuck comes on my tube I turn it.I couldn't get the remote fast enough as he was ranting about people getting their vote. Then of course the cameras pan over to Gabby Giffords and the other pre placed pawns. I was like. They do get ot vote you fuckweasal. Seriously what the hell was that about?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 13, 2013 02:52 PM (uVah9)

167 Tyrannies do not acknowledge bounds upon their use of force upon unconsenting citizens, rather they try to ensure that all citizens are unable to resist.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 13, 2013 02:53 PM (Cnqmv)

168 167 Tyrannies do not acknowledge bounds upon their use of force upon unconsenting citizens, rather they try to ensure that all citizens are unable to resist.
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I read that as Trannies first. But i guess it works either way...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 13, 2013 02:56 PM (SO2Q8)

169 Linky no worky... how conveeeeenient.

Posted by: massideas at February 13, 2013 02:58 PM (v32fM)

170 "Allegory of the Cave" Thanks for that. It reminded me of The Menagerie, which i think was the pilot for the 1st Star Trek Series.

"Stop this Illusion Or I'll Twist your Head Off!!!- Captain Pike, who proved he was no Low Info Voter. I liked how he risked getting his weapons confiscated by the butt shaped head Talosians and then offers to demonstrate to prove they can't keep creating the illusions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNd1QqtCSTI


Posted by: Jason Newton at February 13, 2013 02:59 PM (OXzvH)

171 Maybe the police killed Dorner. Maybe they would have killed him if he surrendered. I'll never know. Right now the story seems to be they set the fire to get him to leave the cabin, a much safer plan than going in after him. Dorner then chose to shoot himself.

Was this a Waco or a Ruby Ridge? I don't think so. Dorner had plenty of time and space to air his grievances. He didn't have any testimony more compelling than his training officer kicking a disabled man. Weak sauce like that doesn't merit an assassination. I think the official story is much more compelling. Dude was shifty and blamed his representative for his firing. He went off his nut and starting killing people for revenge.

Regarding whether burning people out of their homes is one of the police's contingency plan for dealing with conservatives. I'm not ready to believe that's anywhere close to a sizable plurality at this point.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2013 03:02 PM (JbocP)

172 "Right now the story seems to be they set the fire to get him to leave the cabin, a much safer plan than going in after him. "

It's also much safer to shoot random vehicles and pedestrians, just in case they're your suspect.

I don't want police officers to die needlessly. But I'm not interested in burning people to death because it's "safer" for cops.

Posted by: GalosGann at February 13, 2013 04:12 PM (T3KlW)






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