Google, The Democrats' Private Intelligence Agency?

Might be time to reconsider unconsidered choices.

I'm going to shop for a new email provider.

More: Raytheon's new analytical program "Riot" digests and analyzes trillions of bits of data and spits out predictions about human behavior.

Posted by: Ace at 01:46 PM



Comments

1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 01:47 PM (8y9MW)

2 First? Second? Third? Tenth?

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 01:47 PM (pKbu5)

3
the goldmine in data collection

who knew

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 01:48 PM (9Q7Nu)

4 Okay, fine, they have that advantage.

So now what?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 01:48 PM (8y9MW)

5 Why I never use gmail. Used scroogle.org as a search engine until they killed it (now use duckduckgo). Won't let google maps use my location.

I've met the founders. Wouldn't trust them.

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 12, 2013 01:49 PM (6H6o8)

6 I'm not sweating it. All email is monitered now.

I'm thinking old fashioned letter writing may make a comeback.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 01:49 PM (pKbu5)

7 Ya know.. I have found info completely missing on google searches that I am 100% sure used to come up near the top.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2013 01:49 PM (f9c2L)

8 I haven't used google in years For aqnything

Posted by: crank at February 12, 2013 01:49 PM (Wc9et)

9 Seriously, I guess I could move my blog to wordpress, but a) that would be a pain at this point and b) it's not like it isn't still publicly available.

I could stop using gmail, but again with the "that would be a pain at this point."

So lets set those aside- you're not going to get people to give up on gmail, and google docs, and google+, and all that stuff.

So how do you combat the advantage?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 01:50 PM (8y9MW)

10 Eric Schmidt looks like a creep

Posted by: L, elle at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (0PiQ4)

11 I'm thinking old fashioned letter writing may make a comeback.

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Except on Saturdays.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (gmeXX)

12 Okay, fine, they have that advantage.

So now what?


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 01:48 PM (8y9MW)

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Time to fire up the "Google 'What is a SCOAMF'" drive of 2013....... silly

Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (nELVU)

13 I, for one, welcome our new Google overlords.

I mean, they are reading this, you know.

Posted by: JDTAY at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (a0nis)

14 Oh thank God, Ace. I heard that the blog was viciously attacked yesterday afternoon by Octopi Wall Street!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (qqZuQ)

15 I absolutely have to use Google as part of my job. And I hate that.

For personal use, it's more than time for me to switch. But everytime I try and switch, I can't find anything else as good.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (7ObY1)

16 Okay, fine, they have that advantage.

So now what?

Homing pigeons in place of email. In person communications instead of phones. Code.
The chair is against the wall. Repeat -
The chair is against the wall.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (GFM2b)

17 It's like evil was written into the corporate bylaws.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (epxV4)

18 Ya know.. I have found info completely missing on google searches that I am 100% sure used to come up near the top.

Yes. Google likes to "optimize" searches and steer you toward or away from content.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (GQ8sn)

19
We need to wage war on all products manufactured by Liberals. We need a cellphone app that explicitly tells you whether or not a product you are contemplating funds people who hate you and your principles.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (bb5+k)

20 My reading comprehension may well be lacking today, but does that article not actually say Google is doing this, only posits that it might be?

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 01:52 PM (+xmn4)

21 We're getting one of those.

Posted by: Karl Rove at February 12, 2013 01:52 PM (8ZskC)

22 I'm not sweating it. All email is monitered now.

I'm thinking old fashioned letter writing may make a comeback.


Except on Saturdays.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2013 01:52 PM (GFM2b)

23 We need a cellphone app that explicitly tells you whether or not a
product you are contemplating funds people who hate you and your
principles.


So you won't be cleaning your home again?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 01:52 PM (8y9MW)

24 Google = SKYNET

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 12, 2013 01:52 PM (8sCoq)

25 This pretty much confirms what I was saying on the "malware" thread a couple days ago.

The solution to the email would be something like "reagan.com" or in my case, an email account on my domain name via Bluehost.

That would catch about 40% of the problem, because Google really is that evil.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 12, 2013 01:53 PM (Qxe/p)

26 Who could imagine something like that?!

Posted by: G.Orwell at February 12, 2013 01:53 PM (AWmfW)

27
Comitted Binger here, for all the reasons listed. It's only a matter of time before they all succumb to this.

So much for the assumption of privacy in anything anymore.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 12, 2013 01:53 PM (+z4pE)

28 Personally, I expect Google to be toppled, or for a legitimat rival to join, in a few years As I said about SNL, nothing lasts forever, particuraly in the business world.

Google has had a great run, because they are the best at what they do. But something better always comes along. I'm not overly worried about this.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 01:54 PM (gmeXX)

29 Ya know.. I have found info completely missing on google searches that I am 100% sure used to come up near the top.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2013 01:49 PM (f9c2L)
Ya know.. I have found info completely missing on google searches that I am 100% sure used to come up near the top.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2013 01:49 PM (f9c2L)


I've had this issue in the past. When I was researching the eligibility issue, I would that links which were near the top previously, ended up buried deep deep in the subsequent pages. I found links that wouldn't even show up at all. I discovered that Yahoo and Bing would show results that google would not.

Google is the enemy. Use it if you have to, but don't think for a minute that your search information doesn't go into a file in their database.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 01:54 PM (bb5+k)

30 O/T But I see where four football players for the University of Alabama are going to be transferring to Nebraska

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 12, 2013 01:54 PM (R8hU8)

31 They all come crawling back.

Posted by: AOL at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (fWAjv)

32 We need a cellphone app that explicitly tells you whether or not a
product you are contemplating funds people who hate you and your
principles.


On your Android? Heh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (/kI1Q)

33 Who could imagine something like that?!


Posted by: G.Orwell at February 12, 2013 01:53 PM (AWmfW)

We are living Atlas1984AnimalFarmShruggedClockWorkOrange.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (nELVU)

34 Bullshit.

They sell to the highest bidder.

They'd sell the exact same info to Republicans.

But, the Republicans would rather reward their long-time relationship with a few consulting firms.

Add in the ingrained belief that all they need to know is printed in the daily news.

Had Mitt Romney wanted to do a Google+ hangout, Google would have bent over backwards to get it done.



Posted by: RoyalOil at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (VjL9S)

35 Hushmail is a quite simple, yet stable and secure free email service.

Posted by: MadisonConservative at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (Y/HG5)

36 And the left tells me Wal-Mart is evil.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (4df7R)

37 19
We need to wage war on all products manufactured by Liberals. We need a cellphone app that explicitly tells you whether or not a product you are contemplating funds people who hate you and your principles.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (bb5+k)


It's a nice idea, however, like with Hollywood, wouldn't that pretty much bar us from tech outright? Worse than contributing to things you don't like would be voluntarily disconnecting and not having a "dog in the fight" so to speak.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (+xmn4)

38 We need to wage war on all products manufactured by Liberals. We need a cellphone app that explicitly tells you whether or not a product you are contemplating funds people who hate you and your principles.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (bb5+k)


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Looks like I'll be buying nothing but guns and ammo then. I can live with that.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (pKbu5)

39 And don't forget 'sand boxing,' which g00glag claims doesn't exist.

http://www.webconfs.com/google-sandbox-article-11.php

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (g2GdP)

40 How about shopping for a new blogging software provider while you're at it?

I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (nxyLn)

41 How about just showing up to vote in vast numbers? Too simple?

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (AVfT8)

42 So you won't be cleaning your home again?


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 01:52 PM (8y9MW)

Not sure i'm following you on this. Are you referring to Proctor and Gamble or something?



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (bb5+k)

43 30 O/T But I see where four football players for the University of Alabama are going to be transferring to Nebraska

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 12, 2013 01:54 PM (R8hU


LINK, PLEASE?
That could make Nebraska a real top-20 team, not an accidental one.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (Qxe/p)

44 And then there's Google Wallet. What's in your wallet today? Who wants to know?

Posted by: mrp at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (HjPtV)

45 Posted by: RoyalOil at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (VjL9S)

I'm not so sure Google would sell them that information. The rest of your comment is correct, however.

And there really are other agencies out there that collect the same data, if not as ubiquitous.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (8y9MW)

46 Google = SKYNET


Posted by: Jones in CO at February 12, 2013 01:52 PM (8sCoq)

It is a beginning kernel of it, that's for sure.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (bb5+k)

47 We need to wage war on all products manufactured by Liberals.

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I think it is more than that. We need to wage war on all products manufactured by businesses that use Washington for their own benefit. Apple was run by liberals, but was a company conservatives should have admired - no lobbying, no corporate giving, didn't give a crap where its products were manufactured, toppled the music industry (or turned it upside down). Jobs was a liberal, but he ran his company for the sole purpose of making money.

* I can't speak to the current management of Apple.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (gmeXX)

48 and that wifi collection deal with the google maps car was just an accident.

It's all just one big accident in the same direction.

Posted by: nip at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (11Tdq)

49 Google working with the feds? I find this hard to believe considering the justice dept was wielding a serious investigation against them which was dropped either late in the election or just after the election.

Posted by: Whatev at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (A7Wh1)

50 I've never used google, just based on privacy issues.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (BiMP/)

51 The democrats use Google Trends? Those cheating fuckers!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (+lsX1)

52 Try HUSH mail...

Posted by: Clemenza at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (x59Gv)

53 The fuckers were quite brilliant in this respect. The JEF's campaign had no way to mine preference/issue data on their targets. It would have required the creation of a mini-Google. Google either gave the assholes the info or a program, prolly based on IP numbers. Undisclosed in kind contribution, afoul of the law but "what difference does it make?"

Also, either the info or tech would be proprietary, of value and constitute waste by the officers and/or directors of Google. A shareholder derivative action would be interesting with the power of discovery. Alas, prolly not to happen. 'Sides, those actions only enrich the lawyers with little done in the way of prophylactic remedies for the corporation.

As such, here is hoping for Karma for these lefty shitstains.


Posted by: eureka! at February 12, 2013 01:58 PM (HPRku)

54
On your Android? Heh.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (/kI1Q)


On your whatever. Think of it as using a bought or captured enemy machine gun against them.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 01:59 PM (bb5+k)

55 How about burrowing into leftist institutions and bringing them down from within? Too much work? Too much courage?

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 01:59 PM (AVfT8)

56 I don't want to rain on this parade, but I don't see any facts in the article.

Show me the evidence and I'll back down, but this is kinda bullshit until then.


Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 01:59 PM (xAtAj)

57 >>I'm going to shop for a new email provider.

I use hotmail & yahoo as my secondary, but I'm not happy with either.

Has anyone tried the email service that iirc is via the Reagan Library?

Posted by: Y-not at February 12, 2013 01:59 PM (5H6zj)

58 I use small-batch, hand-crafted organic blogging software.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 01:59 PM (nxyLn)

59 LINK, PLEASE?
That could make Nebraska a real top-20 team, not an accidental one.


Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (Qxe/p)

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I just GOOGLED that..nada.. Apparently..... Google hates the Huskers too.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2013 02:00 PM (nELVU)

60 Well, even if Google wouldn't sell it to the GOP directly, anyone but the people running the GOP could think of ten ways to get them to sell it to a front group.

Shit, with the money the Republican Party burns through, a front group staffed from top to bottom with lefties would be feasible and a goldmine.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 12, 2013 02:00 PM (VjL9S)

61 Now with the programs the Financial Institutions run on your business along with the info grabbed by the ACA, you are an open and cliff noted book my fiends..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (x59Gv)

62
I had this figured out already, which is why I rarely use Google.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (tOkJB)

63 Google working with the feds? I find this hard to believe considering the justice dept was wielding a serious investigation against them which was dropped either late in the election or just after the election.


Why was it "dropped"? Cooperation perhaps?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (GFM2b)

64 Ace,

Please tell the horde that you own AOSHQ.com

Because you could use that for e-mail.

AOSHQ.net is available, as is .us.

Go for it. The 21st century beckons.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (GsoHv)

65 O/T But I see where four football players for the University of Alabama are going to be transferring to NebraskaPosted by: Velvet Ambition at February 12, 2013 01:54 PM
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I guess going to class was too tough for them?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (BiMP/)

66 Republicans should think about hiring companies to take "polls" of how voters feel about candidates and issues. Wait, just had an idea. How about "tracking" polls that would measure, get this, trends of how voters feel about certain issues! Could be just crazy enough to work.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (+lsX1)

67 Five years ago, I would have said that Apple and Whole Foods are two of the most liberal companies out there just based on who was using their products. But now I know that would have been completely wrong. I have already said that I think Jobs ran Apple as a conservative would expect a company to be run, and the CEO for Whole Foods has given me a new found respect for the man. Sure they still have that silly electric charging station that I never see being used, but I now realize that is just cosmetic. He seems to understand capitalism and runs his business that way.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (gmeXX)

68 I use small-batch, hand-crafted organic blogging software.

Pixy?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (QF8uk)

69 That 4 eyed mutt from Google is scary and a warning to Facebook users , thats a CIA playground..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (x59Gv)

70 I like BING

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 12, 2013 02:02 PM (l86i3)

71 AOSHQ: Where conspiracies are ridiculed until they aren't.

Seriously guys you should stop snorting so much cat piss. There's no evidence posited in the article, other than Romney's operation got its ass beat.

I'm guessing a few of my lab-mates together could have done better.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:02 PM (xAtAj)

72 It's a nice idea, however, like with Hollywood,
wouldn't that pretty much bar us from tech outright? Worse than
contributing to things you don't like would be voluntarily disconnecting
and not having a "dog in the fight" so to speak.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (+xmn4)

I'm not referring to tech products specifically, i'm referring to the entire gamut of products that people buy on an everyday basis. For example, that Australian wine company that said it would not sell wine to the NRA. If someone is contemplating buying their wine, they could scan the barcode on the wine box, and the cell phone app would come back "RED ALERT! RED ALERT! Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU PURCHASE THIS PRODUCT!!!!!"

It could then go on to explain why this Australian wine company was put on the list so the user could make up their own mind whether to allow this commodity type "mal ware."

You won't be able to exclude all liberal suppliers, but putting a dent in them can only help.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:02 PM (bb5+k)

73
I read the article again, I'm still failing to see the evidence of foul play.

Also:

34 Bullshit.

They sell to the highest bidder.


I agree.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:03 PM (+xmn4)

74 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (GsoHv)

Actually... this.

Most web-hosting solutions (that are paid) will allow you to purchase (well, lease, really) a secure/dedicated server AND have an option for unlimited email accounts.

Heck, I could probably come up with $5/mo for my AoSHQ habit.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 02:03 PM (8y9MW)

75 ::lease tell the horde that you own AOSHQ.com

Because you could use that for e-mail.

AOSHQ.net is available, as is .us.

Go for it. The 21st century beckons.....:::

I think it's obvious that ampersands and paragraph breaks are kicking his ass. Manage your expectations.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 02:03 PM (nxyLn)

76 Somewhat related, I'm worried we're spending too much energy hating on Obama and not enough focusing on state organizations and Senate candidates. Are any of you seeing signs at the state level of a real effort being made to get the Senate back?

Posted by: Y-not at February 12, 2013 02:03 PM (5H6zj)

77 Pixy is one hand crafted. There is only so much you can do while jerking your dick.

Posted by: maddogg at February 12, 2013 02:03 PM (OlN4e)

78 7 Ya know.. I have found info completely missing on google searches that I am 100% sure used to come up near the top.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2013 01:49 PM (f9c2L)

____________________

Now that they completely manipulate.

You know that saying--

"There's no such thing as a free lunch?"

"Free" google search, "free" email...

They do sell general data to commercial interests--and the DNC is interested in acquiring power.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (r2PLg)

79

It is certainly possible that this is truly what Google is doing, but it should be noted that the article you linked is speculation.

I doubt that info is being funneled to the DNC on any huge scale. It is possible, sure, but it just sounds kinda conspiracy-theory-ish. While Google certainly does have access to all this data, it requires some pretty sophisticated software to sort through it all and make "predictions". And I doubt they could be doing this on any large scale without there ever being any evidence or whistleblowers.

But I understand the general thrust what you are saying.

Posted by: dan-O at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (Htc8x)

80
Looks like I'll be buying nothing but guns and ammo then. I can live with that.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 01:55 PM (pKbu5)


There are plenty of products which people can buy that support conservative people and businesses. Oil, Beef, Wood, various agricultural products, products manufactured in Conservative states, etc. The point is, people need to be aware of when the are supplying money to people who hate them.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (bb5+k)

81 I just GOOGLED that..nada.. Apparently..... Google hates the Huskers too.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2013 02:00 PM (nELVU)


OK. Try this one. I used Bing: http://tinyurl.com/bamgqlh

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (Qxe/p)

82 34 Bullshit.

They sell to the highest bidder.

I agree.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:03 PM (+xmn4)

They sell freaking ad-words to the highest bidder.
It isn't magic. I could write a presentation for the Horde how it works.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (xAtAj)

83 May as well adjust and adapt- online privacy doesn't exist. If Google isn't keeping tabs on you, someone else is. And probably both.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (SY2Kh)

84 There was a store in Chitown called Jewel, they stuck a chip in your Jewel card and when you got close to the BVD display on a trip to the store , magically you got a coupon for BVD's in the mail 72 hours later...never trust Google...

Posted by: Clemenza at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM (x59Gv)

85 The fuckers were quite brilliant in this respect. The JEF's campaign had no way to mine preference/issue data on their targets. It would have required the creation of a mini-Google. Google either gave the assholes the info or a program, prolly based on IP numbers. Undisclosed in kind contribution, afoul of the law but "what difference does it make?"


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Beck talked about this a few times and said something like this was offered to him. He turned it down.

I'm starting to think if we're wanting to start winning elections, we're eventually going to have to succomb to data mining. The dems have been using it to obviously good affect in the last two elections.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM (pKbu5)

86 73
I read the article again, I'm still failing to see the evidence of foul play.

Also:

34 Bullshit.

They sell to the highest bidder.

I agree.
Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:03 PM (+xmn4)

______________

I think I am in agreement.

Someone calls me bunny and I get PETCO advertisements.

It's like that.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM (r2PLg)

87 HoboJerky, I don't know whether the story is true, but I'm not sure it really matters. Assuming true, I could see it making a difference at the margins, but not enough to really swing an election, except in very close ones. I guess you could argue that it helps you to sharpen/focus your message, to see what is truly resonating, etc., but I still think that doesn't provide enough help to overcome general deficiencies in a campaign.

Still, plenty of other reasons to not use google.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM (gmeXX)

88 Oh and keep this in mind, Google is giving schools and universities free (if not heavily subsidized) email services. What does Google get? Access to alumni and graduates.

Posted by: Iblis at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM (9221z)

89 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 02:03 PM (nxyLn)


Hey EoJ. On the inside cover of my book there is an Email adress. Drop me a line. I have a question for you.

And hell yes, if Ace set up E-mail service. I'm on board.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM (l86i3)

90 Fairly easy to set up your own mail server and not worry about a third party at all. Although the cost would probably be $20/mo. factoring in the dedicated computer, possible static IP from your provider (although not required). The $6 in electricity it uses sitting there.

Posted by: Whatev at February 12, 2013 02:06 PM (A7Wh1)

91 83
May as well adjust and adapt- online privacy doesn't exist. If Google
isn't keeping tabs on you, someone else is. And probably both.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (SY2Kh)

Friends of Privacy

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:06 PM (xAtAj)

92 Better idea.

Let's start crashing google's algorthim. an internal Google bomb as it were.


Every day, a few times a day we run searches on totally random shit. I wonder if you could move the needle at all.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 12, 2013 02:06 PM (V8c8n)

93 Forget Google.

Facebook is the enemy!

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 02:06 PM (GQ8sn)

94
I think it is more than that. We need to wage
war on all products manufactured by businesses that use Washington for
their own benefit. Apple was run by liberals, but was a company
conservatives should have admired - no lobbying, no corporate giving,
didn't give a crap where its products were manufactured, toppled the
music industry (or turned it upside down). Jobs was a liberal, but he
ran his company for the sole purpose of making money.



* I can't speak to the current management of Apple.





Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (gmeXX)

People ultimately have to make their own decisions about whether to patronize a liberal run or liberal supporting business. All I'm suggesting is that it would be helpful to notify people so they can make an informed choice.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:06 PM (bb5+k)

95 87
HoboJerky, I don't know whether the story is true, but I'm not sure it
really matters. Assuming true, I could see it making a difference at the
margins, but not enough to really swing an election, except in very
close ones. I guess you could argue that it helps you to sharpen/focus
your message, to see what is truly resonating, etc., but I still think
that doesn't provide enough help to overcome general deficiencies in a
campaign.



Still, plenty of other reasons to not use google.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM (gmeXX)

I don't care if you use Google services or not. I care when bullshit conspiracy theories are thrown around on the HQ. Seriously I'm a little disappointed.Romney got his ass beat by 21st century tech that any competent data mining group could have done.

Fin.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:07 PM (xAtAj)

96 86 - Bunny? Is that your street name?

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (+xmn4)

97 Fear not. I love you. I want what's best for you.

Posted by: Big Brother at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (WqKmU)

98 I do think what they do with the google search engine is the grosser transgression.

It seems obvious they priorities what in their minds are the "correct" sources....Liberal.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (r2PLg)

99 >>Someone calls me bunny and I get PETCO advertisements.

And Joe the Plumber led to all that pipe spam here.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (SUKHu)

100 19 ----"We need to wage war on all products manufactured by Liberals. We need a cellphone app that explicitly tells you whether or not a product you are contemplating funds people who hate you and your principles. "

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 01:51 PM (bb5+k)

Well, I dunno about a cellphone app, seeing how all I use (or want) is a dumb phone, but I would like a website with information like that.
What companies fund in the way of "charities" and political organizations/candidates. What the owners and chief stockholders support. What sweet deals they get from the feds. A user-friendly site, with up-to-date info on things to watch.

That way, if I'm in the market for something, I could use it to help make a buying decision.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (C8mVl)

101 they *prioritize*

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (r2PLg)

102 Y-Not, I agree with you. Right now we should be fighting at the state level and local level.

Here's an idea that I think every red state or state lead by a GOP govenor/house/whatever should try to do. Move all govenor elections to non-Presidential years. That's a structural change that would help the GOP.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (gmeXX)

103
7 Ya know.. I have found info completely missing on google searches that I am 100% sure used to come up near the top.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2013 01:49 PM (f9c2L)


I've had that happen too, especially when the material was embarrassing to the left. Google is a lot like Wikipedia when it comes to deep sixing the inconvenient truth.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (tOkJB)

104 Every day, a few times a day we run searches on totally random shit. I wonder if you could move the needle at all.


Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 12, 2013 02:06 PM (V8c8n)

In the long run, even if everyone did it, no. You can statistically classify the garbage searches and discard them as outliers, I'm guessing.
Only way around it is to diversify, or VPN, use proxies, whatever.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (xAtAj)

105 It is certainly possible that this is truly what Google is doing, but it should be noted that the article you linked is speculation. I doubt that info is being funneled to the DNC on any huge scale. It is possible, sure, but it just sounds kinda conspiracy-theory-ish. While Google certainly does have access to all this data, it requires some pretty sophisticated software to sort through it all and make "predictions". And I doubt they could be doing this on any large scale without there ever being any evidence or whistleblowers.But I understand the general thrust what you are saying.
Posted by: dan-O at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (Htc8x)


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All it takes is a raw data dump into one of the supercomputers in the NSA and you've got tons of usable data.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (pKbu5)

106 27 Comitted Binger here, for all the reasons listed.

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Because Microsoft is completely trustworthy.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (IrbU4)

107 How about burrowing into leftist institutions and bringing them down from within? Too much work? Too much courage?

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 01:59 PM (AVfT

Get real. Leftist institutions are already collapsing on their own. Newspapers are going extinct, Media content is having competition from all over. Academia is about to shrink when the Higher education bubble pops, and so on.
However, they are doing great damage in the here and now.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (bb5+k)

108 Sorry, but you're a bit of a fool if you didn't know this was going on, especially after Google released it's latest Terms and Conditions on Privacy documents.

You know, where it said they were going to access your email, see what your topics were and direct advertising and spam to you in your best interest.........

Posted by: © Sponge at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (xmcEQ)

109 I use gmail for any registrations to sites with discounts and coupons so it is where all my junk mail goes. All of it. In other words, I got gmail just to have a place where all the spam goes.

Posted by: navybrat at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (pr0Ow)

110 40 How about shopping for a new blogging software provider while you're at it?

I'm just sayin'.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (nxyLn)



At least he blogs on his blog.

*ducks and runs*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (M4gDn)

111 If we know the tools the left is using, we shouldn't avoidthem, we should sabotage them. Collectively we could throw a few wrenches in their algorithms

Posted by: Rizzyg at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (BqJxg)

112 Its stuff like this that should encourage republicans to kill subsidies for all lefty activities wherever they are. If a lib gets a federal dollar for anything, it should be dried up.

Posted by: Iblis at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (9221z)

113 "Republicans think..."
"it's almost as if..."
"imagine how much..."
"imagine what Democratic voter data..."
"perhaps a few people..."
"may be quietly operating..."

An lot of conjecture in that article. It reminds me of the "2-3 somewhat related facts make a trend" thinking Ace critiqued a few weeks ago. E.g., "Google is a big lefty donor. Google has access to lots of data. The democrats used data mining in 2012. OMG! It all makes sense!" Big data or no big data, Obama doesn't win without the MFM.

**Yeah, I don't like it that Google is in bed with the left, but as others have said, Apple and Microsoft aren't exactly the great conservative alternatives.

Posted by: Dante at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (SkFDg)

114 Had Mitt Romney wanted to do a Google+ hangout, Google would have bent over backwards to get it done.

Shorter answer: Google will do anything for the right price, but Mitt went on teh cheap.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (kqqGm)

115 99 >>Someone calls me bunny and I get PETCO advertisements.

And Joe the Plumber led to all that pipe spam here.
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (SUKHu)

_______________

I was going to pretend spam this place with--

"get your hot hippie wax candles!"--you probably had to be here a couple of days ago.

Was afraid Ace would ban me-so-- no go.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (r2PLg)

116
How about burrowing into leftist institutions and bringing them down from within? Too much work? Too much courage?


Not enough time.

Posted by: GMan at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (sxq57)

117 I shun everything google. I also flip the bird to streetview car every time I see one. Hoping to make it on the map someday

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (nTgAI)

118 Google has had a great run, because they are the best at what they do.
But something better always comes along. I'm not overly worried about
this.


Maybe, but a better something what? Most people think of Google as a search engine and maybe Android, but they've got their fingers in a lot more pies than that.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (SY2Kh)

119 I don't want to rain on this parade, but I don't see any facts in the article.

Show me the evidence and I'll back down, but this is kinda bullshit until then.




Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 01:59 PM (xAtAj)

It has the ring of truth to it. For the most part, you don't have to accept it as true, just accept it as a "shot across the bow" sort of warning. Do not be surprised if it turns out to be true.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (bb5+k)

120 I'm starting to think if we're wanting to start winning elections, we're eventually going to have to succomb to data mining.

Why is it "succumb?" Google (and I'm pretty sure Bing does, too) basically says in their terms of service "TANSTAAFL- You ain't paying, but someone is. Guess what, they're our customer, you're our product."

It's out there, use it.

IF Google is giving access to Democrats and is not willing to give it to Republicans (which is possible, just based on the kind of douche bags the owners of Google are), the same is not true of Yahoo, or Bing, or any of those. They may not be as big, but they're pretty darn good, and anything would be better than what we've got right now (for the record: that would be "nothing").

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 02:11 PM (8y9MW)

121 Because Microsoft is completely trustworthy.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (IrbU4)


Really. That Microsoft Street View is beginning to worry me.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 12, 2013 02:11 PM (Qxe/p)

122 I'm starting to think if we're wanting to start winning elections, we're eventually going to have to succomb to data mining. The dems have been using it to obviously good affect in the last two elections.Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM (pKbu5)

Data mining is what people have always done, now it's just more sophisticated and much more pervasive. And yes, we are going to have to start playing on the same field as the progressives or we're going to find ourselves outclassed and confused.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:11 PM (+xmn4)

123 110 40 How about shopping for a new blogging software provider while you're at it?

I'm just sayin'.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 01:56 PM (nxyLn)



At least he blogs on his blog.

*ducks and runs*
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (M4gDn)

__________________

LOL!

Smell the breitbart--he has Iowahawk to play with now.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:11 PM (r2PLg)

124 they *prioritize*
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (r2PLg)


-----------------------------------------


Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb -- yeah, they prioritize -- bomb bomb bomb bomb.......

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:12 PM (pKbu5)

125
Shorter answer: Google will do anything for the right price, but Mitt went on teh cheap.


Posted by: John P. Squibob at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (kqqGm)

They would have done it for free to get people to use G+...
This is why this conspiracy theory is dumb.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:12 PM (xAtAj)

126 HJ - I don't care if people use Google either. I agree with you, Google is not the reason we lost the election. This strikes me as a more techonological approach for the Karl Rove style of winning elections.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:12 PM (gmeXX)

127 I heard that a Google false flag operation was responsible for creating Romney's failed ORCA application. There's also talk that another Google black ops team injected Rick Perry with some kind of secret "dumbshit" potion to throw him off his game during the debates.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 12, 2013 02:13 PM (+lsX1)

128 And yes, we are going to have to start playing on the same field as the progressives or we're going to find ourselves outclassed and confused.


Greag Gutfeld had a great line on The Five yesterday regarding this sentiment:

No one ever wins by going for the hugular.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2013 02:13 PM (7ObY1)

129
I did my taxes at TaxSlayer yesterday. What do I see on Ace's front page now? TaxSlayer.

Go figure. And I have my security settings on medium-high.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 12, 2013 02:13 PM (+z4pE)

130 127
I heard that a Google false flag operation was responsible for creating
Romney's failed ORCA application. There's also talk that another Google
black ops team injected Rick Perry with some kind of secret "dumbshit"
potion to throw him off his game during the debates.



Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 12, 2013 02:13 PM (+lsX1)





OMG IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (xAtAj)

131 zoho.com doesn't read emails - at least they claim they don't.

1G free, then you pay for up grades per month. no contract.

Posted by: test at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (cELsF)

132 Google knows your political opinions also.
That would be useful to politicians who would like to silence their political opposition. They know who you are, where you live, and what you think.


Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (WZJ0W)

133 My concern is about the time that one of these types decides to really go full bore. I mean Huffington and Google are lefty outlets, but you can still get some basic real time, factual information from HuffPo.

But what about when one of these billionaireCEOs decides that although they will still try to make money, the main purpose of the site will be to push leftist ideology and support Democrats? And that every single story or piece of information will be prioritized, filtered, and disseminatedwith that purpose in mind.

What they are doing is biased, but what could be done if they really put their resources to it is much more far reaching.

Posted by: RM at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (TRsME)

134 Is that Raytheon thing part of the ISR weapons system--sort of joshing.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (r2PLg)

135 Encryption made easy, just share keys with friends.

https://scrambls.com/

Posted by: 13times at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (h6XiD)

136
Weird, haven't used google as a search for years due to their forced (payed for) algorithms. I was kinda surprised alot of people still did.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (p/cQy)

137 I am so hooked on gmail, google docs, chrome browsers and web apps.

Hard to contemplate an online existence with out them *sniff*.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (q177U)

138 How about burrowing into leftist institutions and bringing them down from within? Too much work? Too much courage?

Not enough time.


Posted by: GMan at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (sxq57)

I don't believe conservatives would give up their livelihood to work as some sort of double agent, it's not in our DNA, we are individuals. Liberals on the other hand will gladly give up the whole of their lives for results they would never possibly see. Plus conservatives are terrible at lying, we just can't do it.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (NzBQO)

139 I shun everything google. I also flip the bird to streetview car every time I see one. Hoping to make it on the map someday
Posted by: The Jackhole at February 12, 2013 02:10 PM (nTgAI)


-----------------------------------------------


I was surprised when I saw my house on google maps. It's an old picture, though, and doesn't show the gun turret I installed.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:15 PM (pKbu5)

140 129
I did my taxes at TaxSlayer yesterday. What do I see on Ace's front page now? TaxSlayer.

Go figure. And I have my security settings on medium-high.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 12, 2013 02:13 PM (+z4pE)

try Tor for secure web surfing.

Posted by: test at February 12, 2013 02:15 PM (cELsF)

141 80 ---"There are plenty of products which people can buy that support conservative people and businesses."

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:04 PM (bb5+k)

Yep. I'd really like that info on a website, not just the progressive companies but the conservative ones --- whether they're ficon, libertarian, socon, whatever, the specific causes they support.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 12, 2013 02:16 PM (C8mVl)

142
Fear not. I love you. I want what's best for you.


Posted by: Big Brother at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (WqKmU)


Watched a new show on BBC yesterday that premiered after Top Gear. A science show where they do experiments to try and do something different or cool.

The one thing that really surprised me was they went to a place that was developing software that would determine the singularity of each persons gait (the way you walk) and be able to track you EVERYWHERE, regardless of your clothing or appearance.

They were fascinated and thought it was the greatest thing. Yeah, I see no chance for abuse THERE at all......

Posted by: © Sponge at February 12, 2013 02:16 PM (xmcEQ)

143 I'm going to shop for a new email provider.

I think they've already figured out how you vote.

Posted by: t-bird at February 12, 2013 02:16 PM (FcR7P)

144 I wouldn't mind switching from G services mostly. But Microsoft is no better.

I would have trouble getting away from Android. I guess I could get the Ubuntu phones when they come out.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:16 PM (xAtAj)

145 I don't use google, chrome, android, or gmail.

Never have. Never will.

There are good alternatives to all of them.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 12, 2013 02:16 PM (XvHmy)

146 Would a 'bot-based campaign of search "noise" reduce the quality and usefulness of the Google data mining?

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at February 12, 2013 02:17 PM (Hj9yW)

147 "Because Microsoft is completely trustworthy.



Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (IrbU4)"-------------------------------------------
They've been sued by the Department of Justice, and for something that would later become the norm in the world of operating systems. That gets them points in my book.

Posted by: MadisonConservative at February 12, 2013 02:17 PM (Y/HG5)

148 I gotta say about Yahoo, too, that they were "All In" with the Obama campaign in 2012. A rival to Google they are not, unless it's as rival for Obama's affections.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 12, 2013 02:17 PM (QTHTd)

149 77 Pixy is one hand crafted.

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So... the sound of one hand crafting is startlingly similar to the sound of gerbils screaming in terror?

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 12, 2013 02:18 PM (IrbU4)

150 And Joe the Plumber led to all that pipe spam here.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (SUKHu)

that's nothing, during the Sandra Fluke fiasco, I got tons of ads for a company named "Fluke equipment" which makes high end industrial tools (infrared thermometers for example)
I actually felt bad for the company, in no way was I their target market but google was probably making a killing of them.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 12, 2013 02:18 PM (V8c8n)

151 and the CEO for Whole Foods has given me a new found respect for the man. Sure they still have that silly electric charging station that I never see being used, but I now realize that is just cosmetic. He seems to understand capitalism and runs his business that way.
Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:01 PM (gmeXX)



The CEO of Whole Foods has been pretty outspokenly libertarian for a long time.


IIRC, for years Microsoft didn't lobby at all and when the DOJ hammer came down on MS, Gates was told that it was pay or play and what did he think would happen since MS refused to pay up. MS did the math and started to play the lobbying game and, voila, a whole bunch of legal problems went poof. As did competitors.


Bezos fascinates me because I think he truly is attempting to create Bezostopia. I also think he has a damn good chance of succeeding. Amazon is starting to cave on the whole being a good community partner bullshit thing and I find that intriguing indeed. I have no facts to support this but my gut reaction based on some of Bezos' past comments is that he views this as the price to be paid to play the game. Fine, fine, whatever, here's your donation to the Happy Transgendered Puppies Fund. Now, don't mind us, we're just going to create our own currency, don't worry it's just for apps, we'd never use it to replace the dollar or the Euro or the renminbi or anything. Not us. Nope.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy and Team Squid. at February 12, 2013 02:18 PM (VtjlW)

152 They've been sued by the Department of Justice, and
for something that would later become the norm in the world of operating
systems. That gets them points in my book.


Posted by: MadisonConservative at February 12, 2013 02:17 PM (Y/HG5)

It's true they didn't have lobbyists in DC... until they got sued. Man I hate DC. I can't blame MS/Goog/etc for having lobbyists now. The regulators are out for blood for "monopolies" which simply don't exist.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:18 PM (xAtAj)

153 I very much doubt this, any company will do anything for a price. That's why some companies seem liberal at first but move conservative or vice versa. It's like a giant Game of Thrones.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 12, 2013 02:18 PM (NzBQO)

154 I'm guessing a few of my lab-mates together could have done better.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:02 PM (xAtAj)

That was the infuriating part of the Romney campaign: they used highly paid, largely apoliticalconsultants who thenin turn engaged their buddies to construct the perfect campaign database and networking engine for 1992. None of them had a clue how to use social media to advantage, either.Their campaign videos were of a do-it-yourself quality found on the retard fringes of YouTube.And so on. They--and by 'they' I mean Republican Party leadership in toto--neither know nor understand media or fully grasp its power. They just think if they cut a million-dollar check to this guy their consultant guy says is the go-to guy with his finger on the fucking public pulse, man, I'm tellin' you, then we got this thing, baby!

Dumbasses, all of them.

Posted by: troyriser at February 12, 2013 02:19 PM (vtiE6)

155 Wow.

Just create a bot that does random searches for a specific stock and POW!!!! You're own personal insider trading and price fixing.

Brilliant.

NICE JOB GOOGLE, you fucking spawns of satan.

Posted by: © Sponge at February 12, 2013 02:19 PM (xmcEQ)

156 Yep. I'd really like that info on a website, not just the progressive companies but the conservative ones --- whether they're ficon, libertarian, socon, whatever, the specific causes they support.

---
Its not a bad idea. And maybe one exists. Its one of the few small powers that we have as consumers. Maybe it doesn't make a difference, but who cares. I do the same thing with philanthropy. I have become much more discerning as to who I will give money to, particularly with respect to embryonic stem cell research. I also try to avoid anything bearing the Komen logo, but admittedly that can be tough since they seem to be on all products.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:19 PM (gmeXX)

157
More: Raytheon's new analytical program "Riot" digests and analyzes trillions of bits of data and spits out predictions about human behavior.


Because "Minority Report" is a documentary from the future.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 02:19 PM (4df7R)

158 it's a shame chromes the best browser out there and Bing still sucks. I like my iphone but i'm in the market for a new one and it's starting to look like they've been surpassed by the andriod platform.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at February 12, 2013 02:19 PM (HEa5q)

159 I don't care if you use Google services or not. I
care when bullshit conspiracy theories are thrown around on the HQ.
Seriously I'm a little disappointed.Romney got his ass beat by 21st
century tech that any competent data mining group could have done.

Fin.


Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:07 PM (xAtAj)

I'm not convinced he got his ass beat. What I AM convinced of is that Liberals have no problems breaking rules or customs to support their idol.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:19 PM (bb5+k)

160 > So now what?

GPG or some other encryption for email for sure. Searching, use an alternative.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at February 12, 2013 02:20 PM (ZWvOb)

161 I heard that a Google false flag operation was responsible for creating
Romney's failed ORCA application.
_____________

Look I am not one for the conspiracy theories --but--the ORCA thing.

I do think Romney's polling experts could have been a little dicey. How hard is it for Democrats to turn up in Boston? Particularly when that candidate kind of said--screw it--to the old ways?

Plus no one on the Romney campaign seemed to say--

"what if everything we know here--is all wrong?"

(like one of those "cosmonauts" on Ace's Brit reality show.)

We lost Florida by a narrow margin.

A couple of trips to the Versailles restaurant , and other locations in Miami...and who knows?


There was a bout a 30,000 vote swing from Republican to Democrat in Miami from 2008 to 2012.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:20 PM (r2PLg)

162 Sorry to go OT: Various pics and video of Chris Kyle's funeral procession. (Sorry if this posts weird....pixy is a whiny bitch with long strings of whiny bitch error messages)....


1) Texans line I-35 corridor near Temple to honor Chris Kyle.

2) Video of the funeral procession leaving.

3) More people on overpasses:

4) Video of cars/people stopped on the side of the road.

5) Patriot guard riders

6) Notes from Kyle's son and daughter on back of program (get kleenex)


1) http://tinyurl.com/auddsxt
2) http://tinyurl.com/aac8vz2
3) http://tinyurl.com/bkuoc7j
http://tinyurl.com/aff9npq
http://tinyurl.com/avgn5x6
4) http://tinyurl.com/aeetawe
5) http://tinyurl.com/awfk9v6
6) http://tinyurl.com/b8ekkxz

Posted by: Tami at February 12, 2013 02:20 PM (X6akg)

163 10627 Comitted Binger here, for all the reasons listed.

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Because Microsoft is completely trustworthy.
Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (IrbU4)


Don't know if they've improved, but I used Bing a few times and literally laughed out loud at how bad the search system was. It was returning about 60% that was completely unrelated to my search.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:20 PM (+xmn4)

164 Check yet junk email folder, OSP?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 02:21 PM (nxyLn)

165
lace wig filters
machine filters
kitteh filters
lace filter kittehs
machine kitteh filters
lace machine wig filters
lace kitteh filters
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure
filter kitteh laces

Posted by: lace kitteh filter machines at February 12, 2013 02:21 PM (/kI1Q)

166 That way, if I'm in the market for something, I could use it to help make a buying decision.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 12, 2013 02:08 PM (C8mVl)


A cell phone app just makes the job easier. I think there used to be some websites that had this sort of information, but it is not convenient to be looking up products when you are actually *IN* the story preparing to buy them.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:21 PM (bb5+k)

167
They would have done it for free to get people to use G+...
This is why this conspiracy theory is dumb.


WTF is G+ by the way?

All I know about it is that every time I follow a link posted here on my iphone I go to the link for a second or two and then straight to a page that just says "G+". If I touch it, it wants me to log into Google (where I don't have an account).

In fact, in order to follow a link I have to go to the site, then the Google prompt, then back up to the site I was at and turn my browser off. When I turn the browser back on it usually stays at that site but sometimes still goes to Google.

WTF?

Do I have Google demons living in my iphone?

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 02:21 PM (tOkJB)

168
Don't know if they've improved, but I used Bing a
few times and literally laughed out loud at how bad the search system
was. It was returning about 60% that was completely unrelated to my
search.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:20 PM (+xmn4)

They seem to be ok these days. They've worked really hard to get up to par with Google's search. In the trials I've run, they are about the same quality.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:22 PM (xAtAj)

169 I was surprised when I saw my house on google maps. It's an old picture, though, and doesn't show the gun turret I installed.
Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:15 PM (pKbu5)

_____________

Thank you for your update.

Posted by: SkyNet HAS BEEN INFORMED at February 12, 2013 02:22 PM (r2PLg)

170 I'm not convinced he got his ass beat. What I AM convinced of is that Liberals have no problems breaking rules or customs to support their idol.

---

I'm convinced he got his ass beat and with the other stuff you said.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:22 PM (gmeXX)

171 Replace Chrome browsers with the free and open source SRWare Iron. All the Google tracking-ware is stripped out.
Der krauts are big on googlehate.

https://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

Posted by: 13times at February 12, 2013 02:23 PM (h6XiD)

172
Do I have Google demons living in my iphone?

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 02:21 PM (tOkJB)

It's Goog's attempt at social networking. I mostly use it to track Open-source dev news and the like.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:23 PM (xAtAj)

173
Dumbasses, all of them.

And they can't even pay a few interns to DVR late night shows to count the number of SCOAF ads. It's like they're not even interested in copying what the left is doing.

Keeping up with the competition. How does it fucking work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 12, 2013 02:23 PM (+z4pE)

174
In the long run, even if everyone did it, no.
You can statistically classify the garbage searches and discard them as
outliers, I'm guessing.
Only way around it is to diversify, or VPN, use proxies, whatever.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:09 PM (xAtAj)


I use "Start Page". It bills itself as the most private search engine.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:23 PM (bb5+k)

175 168 - That's good, this was a little while ago. Good to see they've ironed out the kinks.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:23 PM (+xmn4)

176 I do lot's of searches for "lace wigs" and "machines for sale"

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 12, 2013 02:23 PM (nTgAI)

177 https://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

Posted by: 13times at February 12, 2013 02:23 PM (h6XiD)

If you're on Linux the standard browser is Chromium, meaning Chrome - Google stuff.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:24 PM (xAtAj)

178 Duck Duck Go is an open-source search engine that's just *ok*. Does it's own web-crawling.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:24 PM (xAtAj)

179
Propaganda is everywhere.
The popular PBS show "Downton Abbey" written by leftwing Brits. yeah - that one - well...
Guess what? - their are leftwing socialist sympathies and anti -"conservative" droplets woven throughout the story line. It's very subtle, but it's there.
The Soviets would be proud.

Posted by: Fresh at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (O7ksG)

180 Ahhh..Heather beat me to it

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (nTgAI)

181 What they are doing is biased, but what could be done if they really put their resources to it is much more far reaching.
Posted by: RM at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (TRsME)

I think the location of their servers would be important knowledge to have.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (l86i3)

182 I am a big fan of google, however, it appears they are one of many companies and sectors that are supporting the communists.

I have been debating going back to using microsoft / internet explorer because there is a fundamental difference between the business models of microsoft and google. microsoft is not required screw their users ro make money, whereas google is and does by abusing your information. indeed microsoft has an incentive to make certain your information is protected, at least relative to search providers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (Z9EHQ)

183 Not saying it couldn't be true (it would kinda shock me if it wasn't) but that really is one of the worst written things I've ever read.

Posted by: The Dude at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (vJdyz)

184 Since most of you people are unemployed, maybe a better use of your time would be to try and get conservative candidates elected instead of wasting your days typing the same stupid comments hundreds of times per day on a third tier blog.

Too much work I suppose.

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (AVfT8)

185 Lighten up on the conspiracy-theories about Rick Perry, please.

Perry actually *was* under a lot of meds and, also, pain. Also deep down he's not all that much of a thinker. He knows how to run Texas, yes. But Texas largely runs itself.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (QTHTd)

186 Does google have a program that could analyze my wife's google search and send me a weekly report?

On second thought, I may be better off not knowing.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:26 PM (gmeXX)

187
There are....

Posted by: Fresh at February 12, 2013 02:26 PM (O7ksG)

188 There is enough highly intelligent people on the left that are willing to go all in for the greater glory of faith that you don't exactly need google... But I wouldn't doubt that some former employees may be devoted enough to use their skills towards the cause.

Fact of the matter, when you are the religion of central thinking then the skilled acolytes tend to want to be a key in building the noble system

Posted by: Former Mass. Resident at February 12, 2013 02:26 PM (Is+Nb)

189 Think about it. The left has Hollywood. They have the data via Google. They have all the classrooms from pre-K through whatever. Cable TV news? Sure, except for bits of Fox.

Most all the newspapers, and certainly the nationals, except for a lot, not all, of the Wall Street Journal.

Network TV? Check. They have it.

Public radio? Of course.

And we got nothing. Nothing. It is a wonder we can win an election, anywhere.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 12, 2013 02:27 PM (PH+2B)

190 What google and facebook doesn't understand is they will be absorbed by a laviathan gov. Just not first.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 12, 2013 02:27 PM (l86i3)

191 Roundup of my thoughts on all this:

1) Conspiracy is BS.

2) Every large corp is out for your data. Not sure what the best way to adapt is. Try open-source services first perhaps. Even then you're still being tracked by merely visiting webpages.

3) I'm thinking Friends of Privacy from Vernor Vinge's novel Rainbows End" is what we'll be doing soon. We'll have bots crawling the web planting convincing-looking disinformation so that it's hard to find out what is true about yourself without your consent.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:27 PM (xAtAj)

192 It's funny how the Sydney Morning Herald article about Riot is loaded with ads and other junk links.

Posted by: logprof at February 12, 2013 02:27 PM (WqKmU)

193 I am sure apple is s bad as google. no way apple is not helping themselves to the data of everyone that sends a phone in for repair or in for some help from the geniuses.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (Z9EHQ)

194 WTF? Is this infowars.com now?

There is no conspiracy here and Google isn't the enemy of the right. Behavioral data goes both ways -- the important part is this: Information WANTS to be free.

Trying to fault Google for capturing *anonymized* behavioral information on users of its products is seriously insane. Google sells eyeballs; your behavioral data is used to earn advertising dollars. And advertising is essentially what a modern political campaign comes down to.

The GOP can use Google's data, too, ya know.

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (ZctoY)

195 Do I have Google demons living in my iphone?
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 02:21 PM (tOkJB)


-------------------------------------------


Yes. And they have teeny tiny barbed cocks that probe your eardrum every time you answer your phone.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (pKbu5)

196 if there's a good enough Republican candidate nothing like this matters

maybe i'm just naive

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (60GaT)

197 Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:20 PM (r2PLg)

Romney's people were the professional class of GOP consultants they see self funders like Romney coming from a mile away. They probably weren't democrat plants but they were well connected incompetents. most GOP consultants number one priority is spending as much money as they can and directing that money to their friends and business partners. when the candidate loses they just blame a bad candidate and shrug and say well you can't shine a turd.

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (HEa5q)

198
All I know is that Google regularly hijacks my iphone, I fucking hate it and I have no clue as to how to stop it. For that reason alone I hate Google with the heat of a thousand suns.

Anybody know how I can stop it?

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (tOkJB)

199 try Tor for secure web surfing.
Posted by: test at February 12, 2013 02:15 PM (cELsF)

I heard that from a guy who might or might not work for NSA.

Posted by: Invictus at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (OQpzc)

200
They would have done it for free to get people to use G+...
This is why this conspiracy theory is dumb.


Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:12 PM (xAtAj)

I've noticed a tendency for people to label something a "conspiracy theory" when they don't see it as plausible themselves. I regard it as axiomatic that a liberal data collection company will use it's resources to support liberal candidates. That is exactly what I would do if the roles were reversed.

The sooner we start acting like we are in a war, the sooner we might actually start making progress again. Machiavelli had it right.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:29 PM (bb5+k)

201 I just sent 1.6 million emails through Gmail talking about how Obama and the Democrats really need to do something about girls in bars who give you a fake phone number.

That should throw a monkey wrench into their fancy super-dooper Google marketing research, am I right?

Posted by: Phinn at February 12, 2013 02:29 PM (oFH2D)

202
The one that surprises me is that people still use facebook after all of their spying crap.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 12, 2013 02:29 PM (p/cQy)

203 Too much work I suppose.
Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (AVfT

Yo mutha fucka, booth eight has a dick wit no lips. Get yo cocksuckin ass busy fo I takes off my belt.

Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole and transgendered chicken shack bar an at February 12, 2013 02:29 PM (l86i3)

204 Information WANTS to be free.

So does the hooker in my basement.

Posted by: Phinn at February 12, 2013 02:30 PM (oFH2D)

205 Too much work I suppose.Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (AVfT

Thanks, Mom.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:30 PM (+xmn4)

206 I heard that a Google false flag operation was
responsible for creating Romney's failed ORCA application. There's also
talk that another Google black ops team injected Rick Perry with some
kind of secret "dumbshit" potion to throw him off his game during the
debates.


Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 12, 2013 02:13 PM (+lsX1)


He was taking pain killers because he had back surgery.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:30 PM (bb5+k)

207 Socialism IS Corporatism...

Posted by: Benito Mussolini at February 12, 2013 02:30 PM (lZBBB)

208


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:29 PM (bb5+k)

It's by definition a conspiracy theory. Google, a corporation which is really thousands of people, all working in concert with more thousands in the Obama campaign to secretly distribute behavioral information.
Infowars-grade supposition with zero facts.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:30 PM (xAtAj)

209 If you're on Linux the standard browser is Chromium, meaning Chrome - Google stuff.

Posted by: HoboJerky


No. Ubuntu and Mint come with FF.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (NTBjC)

210 Since most of you people are unemployed, maybe a better use of your time would be to try and get conservative candidates elected instead of wasting your days typing the same stupid comments hundreds of times per day on a third tier blog. Too much work I suppose.
Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (AVfT


-------------------------------------------------


Fuck you. This is the best third tier blog on the webz.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (pKbu5)

211 I am sure apple is s bad as google. no way apple is
not helping themselves to the data of everyone that sends a phone in
for repair or in for some help from the geniuses.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (Z9EHQ)


Ah yes. Apple. The biggest violator of most of the rules, but yet still the biggest following of stinky hippies of all.

Store your shit in the iCloud and see how that works out for you.

Where is this cloud and who has access to it? How secure is it? Who's reading my info!!!?????

Fuck the cloud.....

Posted by: © Sponge at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (xmcEQ)

212 Information WANTS to be free.

So does the hooker in my basement.
Posted by: Phinn at February

he has not given up hope? he has been there a really long time.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (Z9EHQ)

213 So 30-40 people switch email provider, big whoop. You've really made a difference. Anything to avoid the real fight.

You people are like cats chasing a red dot laser pointer.

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (AVfT8)

214
No. Ubuntu and Mint come with FF.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (NTBjC)

Sorry I meant standard Chrome browser in Linux. It's just as easy to install as Chrome.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:32 PM (xAtAj)

215 191 I've no experience with Linux but the SRWare browser has the same functionality as Chrome for Windows - sans the tracking ware, correct?

Posted by: 13times at February 12, 2013 02:32 PM (h6XiD)

216 I've been using reagan Dot com about a year for my sooper seekrit double nought spyin' and now Michael Reagan wants to sell me a tee shirt!!

Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at February 12, 2013 02:32 PM (xiaOm)

217 Google knows your political opinions also.
That
would be useful to politicians who would like to silence their political
opposition. They know who you are, where you live, and what you think.




Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 12, 2013 02:14 PM (WZJ0W)

Google has the makings of a service the Stasi would have dreamed about. All they need is corroboration with the government and... Oh, wait...




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:32 PM (bb5+k)

218 gotta love the goggle addicts...

"yeah well if da GOP wuz more popoolar den goggle would be kiing our ass...derp"

uh "no" Goggle is ran by barking moonbats in the Jharles Chonson mold.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:32 PM (LRFds)

219 Under my new plan, you will be able to keep your original thoughts.

Posted by: Barack Ovomit at February 12, 2013 02:32 PM (XvrTA)

220 What's the ratio of lampposts to Google employees, again?

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at February 12, 2013 02:33 PM (OY/SZ)

221 You people are like cats chasing a red dot laser pointer.
Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (AVfT

Someday you will see my red dot laser pointer.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 12, 2013 02:33 PM (l86i3)

222 197 Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:20 PM (r2PLg)

Romney's people were the professional class of GOP consultants they see self funders like Romney coming from a mile away. They probably weren't democrat plants but they were well connected incompetents. most GOP consultants number one priority is spending as much money as they can and directing that money to their friends and business partners. when the candidate loses they just blame a bad candidate and shrug and say well you can't shine a turd.
Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (HEa5q)

Well I really think something was off with his polling data.

The last spin out to PA--gawd.

They actually had Ryan, the PA governor Romney and--

McDonnell out there--in PA.

Bob McDonnell in PA--instead of Virginia--where maybe....at least Allen could have been "saved"./

And worse--McDonnell--they forgot to introduce him on one stop--so in order to save time--McDonnell did not address the crowd--in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2013 02:33 PM (r2PLg)

223 194

the thing is even if Democrats do have certain inherent structural advantages i'm generally down on stuff like this cuz, to me, it's like the mirror image of "Republicans brainwash people into voting for them" in the 2000s

bit of hyperbole. but i think focusing too much on this type of thing makes it easier to brush off the fact that a good amount of Americans just agree with the Democrats' policies, straight up, and shifts away from needed self-evaluation. to this blog's credit it's been pretty critical of Republican strategy as well, even if some people's analysis (i.e. the RINO card) isn't one i agree with.

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 02:34 PM (60GaT)

224
Sometimes I make different stupid comments and drop it to a 4th tier blog.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 12, 2013 02:34 PM (p/cQy)

225 Fuck you. This is the best third tier blog on the webz.
Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (pKbu5)

No shit. And further, I've worked to get Rs elected. Then they went to D.C. and voted to fully fund Obama.

Posted by: Invictus at February 12, 2013 02:34 PM (OQpzc)

226 15 BlueStateRebe,

Yeah? Your company edict or what?

Personal use go with Bing...maybe the GOP needs to cut its own demonic deal with Microshaft

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:34 PM (LRFds)

227 No shit. And further, I've worked to get Rs elected. Then they went to D.C. and voted to fully fund Obama.
Posted by: Invictus at February 12, 2013 02:34 PM (OQpzc)

And that hurts like hell. You spend money, time and still, up the squeekhole it goes.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 12, 2013 02:35 PM (l86i3)

228 "Socialism IS Corporatism..."

i believe you're not making the fine distinctions here Mr. Mussolini

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 02:36 PM (60GaT)

229 204
Information WANTS to be free.

So does the hooker in my basement.



Posted by: Phinn at February 12, 2013 02:30 PM (oFH2D)

A few cans of Raid "Fast Kill/Low Irritant" would take care of that.

Posted by: Harry S. Plinkett at February 12, 2013 02:36 PM (7xeJQ)

230 wait, wait i think everyone here knows and accepts that THE ENTIRE MAIN STREAM MEDIA is in the tank for Obama. but to suggest that the people who run Google might of helped Obama's data mining operation earns you an all expense paid trip to crazy town?

Posted by: vote Lord Humungus 2016 at February 12, 2013 02:36 PM (HEa5q)

231 New JohnE post up.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 02:36 PM (4df7R)

232 213So 30-40 people switch email provider, big whoop. You've really made a difference. Anything to avoid the real fight.

You people are like cats chasing a red dot laser pointer.Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (AVfT8


Thank you for the insight, DepressiveBlogger69.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:36 PM (+xmn4)

233 223 JDP,

Yup...

I guess we need to become democrats so democrats can become out of the last inch of the closet communists.....

it is NEVER left enough

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:36 PM (LRFds)

234
And that hurts like hell. You spend money, time and still, up the squeekhole it goes.

*gazes at own nic...*

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 12, 2013 02:36 PM (+z4pE)

235
Fuck. Barrel. Off I go.

Posted by: Heralder at February 12, 2013 02:36 PM (+xmn4)

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 12, 2013 02:37 PM (+z4pE)

237 233

i did not say those words (or ellipses)

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 02:38 PM (60GaT)

238 Okay, heard "Husker recruiting" and had to share this item (yes, it/s O/T):

http://tinyurl.com/al8dwpe

poor guy

on the other hand, can you imagine the puns when he sacks a QB

Posted by: chemjeff at February 12, 2013 02:39 PM (m/eXi)

239 The GOP can use Google's data, too, ya know.
Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (ZctoY)



How? Is Google selling it to them? Hey, if Google said fuck you, no, we're not selling you that, I would support Google. I'm not saying that Google has refused to sell its info, I'm just saying that it has every right not to do so.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy and Team Squid. at February 12, 2013 02:40 PM (VtjlW)

240
I'm convinced he got his ass beat and with the other stuff you said.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 02:22 PM (gmeXX)

It should not come down to margin error data mining. The worst Chief Executive officer in history should not have been CLOSE to wining.

If corruption and fraud didn't swing the contest, America just put a gun in it's mouth and pulled the trigger.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:40 PM (bb5+k)

241 Oh and I'm not even really sure what a Google Hangout is. I tried visiting the Google pages on it and it basically said it's a video chat service. So it's like Skype?

Posted by: chemjeff at February 12, 2013 02:41 PM (m/eXi)

242 corruption and fraud didn't swing the contest

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 02:41 PM (60GaT)

243 You people are like cats chasing a red dot laser pointer.

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (AVfTThis isn't the hill to die on General? So what's the grand plan?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 12, 2013 02:42 PM (GsoHv)

244 237 JDP,

You'll have to translate what but i think focusing too much on this type of thing makes it easier to
brush off the fact that a good amount of Americans just agree with the
Democrats' policies, straight up, and shifts away from needed
self-evaluation. to this blog's credit it's been pretty critical of
Republican strategy as well, even if some people's analysis (i.e. the
RINO card) isn't one i agree with.


Means then....

you saying "RiNO card' lends itself to the logical conclusion that had we only listened to Christine Todd Whitman we'd be WINNING!

Me I look at Gallop's latest findings that the American people think Obama's policy choices except the largely hypocritical foreign policy front are 'valley of the retards' and unpopular....

that our deficiencies are more structural in the leftist overt domination of the academy and infotainment more than America waking up ready for the Winter Revolution of 1905 or something....

hell what precisely is Obama's "policies" all about anyway?

Green energy venture socialism, Ogabecare and what precisely?

Well Free Shit Logistics I guess...I don't see anything "sustainable" or anything.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:43 PM (LRFds)

245 And JohnE's new GIF-laden post makes my computer hurt. So I'm staying here.

Posted by: chemjeff at February 12, 2013 02:43 PM (m/eXi)

246 You people are like cats chasing a red dot laser pointer.
Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (AVfT

Now that you're done dreaming under the Bohdi tree in your backyard, feel free to enlighten me and the other unwashed out here. We've obviously been doing it wrong.We need your wisdom, your erudition, your clarity of vision, your social security number, the keys to your car and apartment...

Posted by: troyriser at February 12, 2013 02:43 PM (vtiE6)

247 Guess what? - their are leftwing socialist
sympathies and anti -"conservative" droplets woven throughout the story
line. It's very subtle, but it's there.
The Soviets would be proud.

Posted by: Fresh at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (O7ksG)


All modern entertainment appears to be suffused with anti-conservative messages. Nothing gets on the air anymore without some propaganda in it.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:43 PM (bb5+k)

248 242 JDP,

Corruption and Fraud coupled with an organized media campaign to suppress economic and international news most likely together got him over the top.

The GOP's biggest weakness is not a set of bad policy, it is a lack of balls.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:44 PM (LRFds)

249 Earlier posters already pointed to the solution. Ditch webmail and host your own mail server for a good start. Then make sure the server will offer to encrypt connections inbound and then make sure you use an encrypted method to pull mail. Set up encryption keys on whatever email program you settle on and at least sign everything you send out. That will get your public key out to everyone you correspond with on a regular basis pretty quick and if they do the same you get theirs. Now you at least know mail is really from who they say they are and all an outsider can do is traffic analysis on who is sending to which server.

Then once you have your web of trust set up well enough (key signing parties in person are how distributed projects like Debian Linux do it) at some point you can flip the final switch and tell your mail program to fully encrypt + sign anything going to anyone you have a public key on record for by default and still sign the rest.

That gets you about as much privacy as you are going to get without becoming a total paranoid and certainly more private than using postal mail.

Posted by: John Morris at February 12, 2013 02:44 PM (YhRJW)

250 247 Diogenes Lamp,

correct, which means we may have to engage in some circa 1968-1978 "direct action" games in reverse.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:45 PM (LRFds)

251 Moffet Field, Google and former SF mayor Gavin Newsom's wedding.

Google it.

Posted by: 13times at February 12, 2013 02:45 PM (h6XiD)

252 "you saying "RiNO card' lends itself to the logical conclusion that had
we only listened to Christine Todd Whitman we'd be WINNING!"

no not really. that's an actual RINO. i'm talking about the analysis that Romney lost because he Wasn't Conservative Enough, something i think isn't really supported, except that people want it to be true.

really there were plenty of issues working against him that didn't have much to do with how (un)conservative he was.

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 02:46 PM (60GaT)

253 212
Information WANTS to be free.



So does the hooker in my basement.

Posted by: Phinn at February



he has not given up hope? he has been there a really long time.


Show some respect, dude -- he prefers to be called by her street name, Sangwan.

At least, that's what I think she said her name was when we first met. It's hard to hear everything clearly from the trunk of a 1983 Buick Skylark, apparently.

Posted by: Phinn at February 12, 2013 02:46 PM (oFH2D)

254 Since most of you people are unemployed, maybe a
better use of your time would be to try and get conservative candidates
elected instead of wasting your days typing the same stupid comments
hundreds of times per day on a third tier blog.



Too much work I suppose.

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (AVfT

Funny guy. You left out the cohorts of "too rich to have to work" , "Retired", "Goldbricking on the job", "Successful business people who run their own companies and can do what the fuck they want when they want."

And so on...


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:46 PM (bb5+k)

255 How? Is Google selling it to them? Hey, if Google said fuck you, no, we're not selling you that, I would support Google. I'm not saying that Google has refused to sell its info, I'm just saying that it has every right not to do so.

Alexthechick, it's all available in Google AdSense and Doubleclick. They *sell* behavior-based targeting as part of those platforms. They also integrate it into their Google+ service when putting together recommended lists of people/pages/communities to circle or join.

Google Analytics has a HUGE amount of data that can be harvested from web and app traffic. There is no political litmus test to access it. And to suggest Google, the company, gives a shit about WHO (poltiically) buys their advertising is rather ridiculous.

chemjeff: G+ hangouts are basically like a GoTo Meeting. It's a chatroom + video conference + collaborate document editing tool that my company utilizes extensively. It's actually QUITE cool.

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 02:47 PM (ZctoY)

256
Perry actually *was* under a lot of meds and,
also, pain. Also deep down he's not all that much of a thinker. He knows
how to run Texas, yes. But Texas largely runs itself.


Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 12, 2013 02:25 PM (QTHTd)

As does any nation. I will point out that it is the "genius" presidents who pretty much fuck everything up. ( Obama, Clinton, Carter, Roosevelt, Wilson, etc.)



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:48 PM (bb5+k)

257 At least, that's what I think she said her name was when we first met. It's hard to hear everything clearly from the trunk of a 1983 Buick Skylark, apparently.
Posted by: Phinn at February

even after you let them out of the trunk with the various dialects an a full mouth it is hard for anyone to understand anything.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 12, 2013 02:48 PM (Z9EHQ)

258 Never have to rely on a single company.

Just look at Facebook... for some people it is the only gateway to their friends online. It's one of the reasons I avoid it like the plague.

Have multiple e-mail accounts with different companies (even if you are hosting your own).

Also, get your own server, or use a trusted persons server, particularly when it comes to blogs. I choose to go straight to my own hosted site for my blog, rather that one of the blog services in order to make sure I have control and some company idiot doesn't suspend it.

Still use Yahoo for the yahoogroups, though again, listserves on trusted servers would be best.

Kinda stuck with Twitter, though an open source alternative would be great.

IRC channels are a good alternative, as there are plenty of servers for that (AoSHQ has one at Freenode, which we should all know how to use in case Pixy's hamsters have a heart attack).

Heck, if you really want to insure a back-up, then get a site with a .Onion domain and use Torchat.

As for stuff like phones, browsers, &c. there are always alternatives. I still use Blackberry and use Opera as my browser.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 12, 2013 02:48 PM (XvHmy)

259
And we got nothing. Nothing. It is a wonder we can win an election, anywhere.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 12, 2013 02:27 PM (PH+2B)

We have sanity. So did most of the nation, until relatively recently.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:49 PM (bb5+k)

260 It should not come down to margin error data mining. The worst Chief Executive officer in history should not have been CLOSE to wining. If corruption and fraud didn't swing the contest, America just put a gun in it's mouth and pulled the trigger.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:40 PM (bb5+k)
-
Exactly.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 12, 2013 02:50 PM (BiMP/)

261 I've dabbled with the Zorin Linux distro. Amazingly it found vid card and mice and seems somewhat usable.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 12, 2013 02:50 PM (BH8oG)

262 There IS an open source Twitter. name escapes me atm.

Posted by: 13times at February 12, 2013 02:51 PM (h6XiD)

263 I did Y2K remediation with Raytheon. This could get very, very scary.

Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2013 02:51 PM (UzPAd)

264 259 Diogenes' Lamp,

I wonder....

no seriously I do, I think that HISTORIC is our only prayer because unless that burns itself out they will simply mobilize Free Shit Army forever.

Absent the hyper regulatory state I'd say that the Right's answer would have to be maximizing the economy and growing folks out of free shit army but bambi is using the HR state to choke the economy to harden free shit army into full bore socialists.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:51 PM (LRFds)

265 Well I don't use GoTo Meeting (or even Skype) so I don't know what that is all about either. I've heard that Skype is basically teleconferencing.

Posted by: chemjeff at February 12, 2013 02:52 PM (m/eXi)

266 FOSS twitter.

https://www.joindiaspora.com/

Posted by: 13times at February 12, 2013 02:52 PM (h6XiD)

267 13times, you're not thinking of Yammer are you?

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 02:52 PM (ZctoY)

268 hell what precisely is Obama's "policies" all about anyway?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:43 PM (LRFds)


His Policies? Its all about the destruction of the Last Super Power... the Humbling of a Country which he was taught by his Marxist Proffesors was a "bad thing"...

Virutaly every decision made, has been negative to America, or its values.

Energy Policy? Lets make energy MORE expensive, and harder to get...

Foreign Policy? Lets piss off our Allies, and make nice nice with people who wish to destroy our way of life.

Military? Overextended in a 10+ year war, so lets cut their funding, and unilateraly get rid of 1/3 of our nukes... while putting gays and women on the front line...

Economy? Lets regulate it to death... and hell open the flood gates of illegal immigration by making them legal, so their are MORE people competing for the now fewer jobs...

Rule of Law? Lets selectivly enforce some laws, ignore others, and give amnesty to lawbreakers.... just because...

And now? Lets find the WORST possible Cabinet we possibly can get... Idiot for Sec Def... Keep Holder and Napolitano... the Joke which is John Kerry, who called our soldiers barbarians for Sec State....

Its a pattern..... but some, including the media... well, there is none so blind as those who will not see....

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2013 02:53 PM (lZBBB)

269
if there's a good enough Republican candidate nothing like this matters

maybe i'm just naive


Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 02:28 PM (60GaT)

GOP can't be "good enough." They have to be absolutely flawless and perfect. Liberal candidates don't have to be "Good enough." The can be absolute child molesting rat-bastards, and they will still do just fine.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:53 PM (bb5+k)

270 And to suggest Google, the company, gives a shit about WHO (poltiically) buys their advertising is rather ridiculous.

I prefer to believe the pattern of behavior that appears on my screen rather than your claims.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 12, 2013 02:53 PM (BH8oG)

271 260 Vashta Nerada,

I pretty much agree which is why I posited 'divorce' after the rage cooled.

The differences are insurmountable and they will destroy us in place.

Run red

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:53 PM (LRFds)

272 If corruption and fraud didn't swing the contest, America just put a gun in it's mouth and pulled the trigger.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:40 PM (bb5+k)

America yes. The red states less so, unless you have a kasich or that sellout twat in arizona.

Posted by: Invictus at February 12, 2013 02:54 PM (OQpzc)

273 257 At least, that's what I think she said her name was when we first met. It's hard to hear everything clearly from the trunk of a 1983 Buick Skylark, apparently.
Posted by: Phinn at February

even after you let them out of the trunk with the various dialects an a full mouth it is hard for anyone to understand anything.
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 12, 2013 02:48 PM (Z9EHQ)


Truer words were never spoken.
I just sent another 2.6 million emails through Gmail, talking about how Obama ought to devote some air time at the State of the Union address to the topic of Thai tranny hookers.

If he takes the bait, then we'll know we're onto something!

Posted by: Phinn at February 12, 2013 02:54 PM (oFH2D)

274 268 Romeo13,

yeah well that ain't what he ran on, but yeah I agree....

the thing is Diane Fucking Sawyer will look into that camera and say "there is still one Republican left in the nation it must be their fault!"

I've seen the TV Show on Klownifornia TV....


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:55 PM (LRFds)

275 It's by definition a conspiracy theory. Google, a
corporation which is really thousands of people, all working in concert
with more thousands in the Obama campaign to secretly distribute
behavioral information.
Infowars-grade supposition with zero facts.


Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 02:30 PM (xAtAj)

Do you think the media are a "conspiracy theory?"

What they are is a whole bunch of left wing asshats all working in the same industry who think alike on issues of politics. They aren't overtly "conspiring" to slant the news. They can't help themselves.

I think the same situation applies to google.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:55 PM (bb5+k)

276 So, I did a search on ixquick, on a phrase from a comment, "Google working for the feds" - top o the results is an ad for Google e-mail ("and more").

Private, independent webs.?

Posted by: Conspiracy Jones at February 12, 2013 02:56 PM (8KGvR)

277 IMHO, google is evil because of all the data mining they do, and they way they skew search engine results to serve an agenda. Whether or not this particular story is true, it's irrelevant, and we should not be using google.



I will never use Chrome, only Firefox, and I am beginning to wonder about that one. For searches, I have been using Dogpile, which is a search engine aggregator. It links me indirectly to google, Bing, Yahoo, and other search engines.


And, for that matter, I don't routinely watch TV, and I don't go to movies. Starve the Beast.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 12, 2013 02:56 PM (673KB)

278
So 30-40 people switch email provider, big whoop. You've really made a difference. Anything to avoid the real fight.



You people are like cats chasing a red dot laser pointer.

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 12, 2013 02:31 PM (AVfT

Cascade dude. Work it out.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 02:57 PM (bb5+k)

279 275 Diogenes Lamp,

Nah I'm sure if you and I scraped in our couches and took 750,000 to Goggle and said "I need all the data of anything having to do with Organizing Freeshit for America they'd be all over it....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:57 PM (LRFds)

280 Pattern recognition, you say?

Every time I go to google I do a search for Ashley Judd's puffy face. And tits.

Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2013 03:00 PM (UzPAd)

281 "277 IMHO, google is evil because of all the data mining they do, and they way they skew search engine results to serve an agenda. Whether or not this particular story is true, it's irrelevant, and we should not be using google."

LOL

Alberta Oil Peon: what dicks to offer FREE web services that capture behavioral and geographic information when used. It's not like they have an ADVERTISING business to run...

Seriously, folks -- Google is not the enemy nor engaged in a political conspiracy. They provide very useful tools to anyone in this country who wants to use them.

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 03:01 PM (ZctoY)

282 I say .. let's use Google to our advantage ...
Just go over to Google and search on one of these 3 phrases ...

Barack Obama impeachment
Barack Obama heart attack
Barack Obama mistress

Posted by: Romour Central at February 12, 2013 03:02 PM (e8kgV)

283 I've googled just about every weapon and ammo available.My google history would show a clear conservative bias. I also use google maps on my Iphone.

I guess the left would have my collecteddata filed away in a folder called -

'CrazyNutters To Get Rid Of First'

Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2013 03:03 PM (m2CN7)

284 Absent the hyper regulatory state I'd say that the
Right's answer would have to be maximizing the economy and growing folks
out of free shit army but bambi is using the HR state to choke the
economy to harden free shit army into full bore socialists.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:51 PM (LRFds)

That theory gives him too much credit. My theory is he is a "stupid fuck" and what we see are unintended consequences.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 03:03 PM (bb5+k)

285 Google knows the music I listen to because of Google Play, but I use Bing for everything else.
If the fact that I like heavy metal, prog, and old swingmusicis useful to the left somehow, they're free to use the info.
Oh, and Barack Obama can go fuck himself.

Posted by: DRayRaven at February 12, 2013 03:04 PM (H8fz7)

286 281 H2u,

uh "no" they offer "free' shit and then aid the democrats directly in aggregating data and mining it for vulnerabilities.

"don't be evil"

that's why Goggle sucks China's autocratic co*k...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:04 PM (LRFds)

Posted by: test at February 12, 2013 03:04 PM (cELsF)

288 284 Diogene's Lamp,

He's the front man...like the "Dude you're getting a dell!" stoner....

the evil is the guys behind him.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:05 PM (LRFds)

289 Nah I'm sure if you and I scraped in our couches and
took 750,000 to Goggle and said "I need all the data of anything having
to do with Organizing Freeshit for America they'd be all over it....


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 02:57 PM (LRFds)


I do not believe google would be fair and impartial. That is not a trait of left leaning folk. Bias is built into their mindset.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 03:05 PM (bb5+k)

290 Barack Obama leprosy

Posted by: Romour Central at February 12, 2013 03:07 PM (e8kgV)

291 289 Diogene's lamp,

I agree I was using you to mock goggle's apologists.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:08 PM (LRFds)

292 I'm starting to think if we're wanting to start
winning elections, we're eventually going to have to succomb to data
mining. The dems have been using it to obviously good affect in the last
two elections.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2013 02:05 PM


True, that. Clipboards and voter rolls alone ain't gonna do it.

Posted by: eureka! at February 12, 2013 03:08 PM (HPRku)

293 "uh "no" they offer "free' shit and then aid the democrats directly in aggregating data and mining it for vulnerabilities."

LOL -- claims like these need PROOF. Proof sorely lacking from the silliness at Redstate and this post.

The data available in Google Analytics, AdSense and Doubleclick does not have a partisan "you must be this tall to ride" sign.

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 03:08 PM (ZctoY)

294 We have sanity. So did most of the nation, until relatively recently.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013




well we do have logic and reason. what we ned is someone who is willing and able to "make the case" and beat his opponent over the head with the nonsense that is the hallmark of democrats/communists. making him own it is not enough you need to run him through with it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 12, 2013 03:09 PM (Z9EHQ)

295 "That theory gives him too much credit. My theory is he is a "stupid fuck" and what we see are unintended consequences."

the Democratic Party has wanted universal healthcare and supported Keynesian stimulus/government intervention in the economy forever, why wouldn't it be intended

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 03:10 PM (60GaT)

296 Google and its very nature - information collection - make it an easy target for conspiracy theories. Google, just like all big companies, buys political influence.

The question is; does google's influence peddling negatively impact our lives and, by extension, conservatism.

Posted by: 13times at February 12, 2013 03:12 PM (h6XiD)

297 293 H2u,

Yes it does...if only there were an organization dedicated to investigating power....

Goggle donated overtly to the donks...not a leap of faith to imagine working tacitly with them.

Goggle loves tyrants.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:12 PM (LRFds)

298 Might be time to reconsider unconsidered choices.

You might want to think about getting rid of Google Analytics from your website/webpage, Ace.

Google is on pretty much every webpage I go to and although I have Ghostery to block the setting of their cookie/etc, I suspect that does nothing if the request is still to the google website providing the cookie/etc and the IP address is still recorded even if the cookie is refused.

Posted by: Dusty at February 12, 2013 03:13 PM (KR2Ca)

299 "Goggle donated overtly to the donks...not a leap of faith to imagine working tacitly with them."

So what? They're also employing a nontrivial number of right-leaning people -- engineers, for example -- who wouldn't sit idly by while political conspiracy is unfolding.

Google provides tools to users and sells their eyeballs to advertisers. That's their business. If the GOP wants to advertise with Google -- and, in doing so, gain access to their insanely good behavioral and geographic targeting, they are able to do so.

If they aren't already doing so, they're fucking retarded.

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 03:16 PM (ZctoY)

300 ellipses of doooooom

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 03:20 PM (60GaT)

301 and what about everybody's heavy investment in YouTube?

Posted by: Conspiracy Jones at February 12, 2013 03:20 PM (6B4ha)

302 299 H2U,

Goggle cuks red China's d*ck, they tend to weight search results to favor democrat positions....

these are facts, their little magic recipe buillshit somehow ALWAYS favors donkey ass motherfucker.....

nope don't trust 'em, hate the fuckers, hate their pervasiveness and invasiveness and were i ever to have Barry's magic pen I would nuke them with EO precision guided rat fucking.

God help me I'll link the Freepers which i never do...

back in '05 an experiment was ran

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1395994/posts

the ad was simply flipped to be conservative and Goggle rejected it.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:21 PM (LRFds)

303 LOL -- claims like these need PROOF. Proof sorely lacking from the silliness at Redstate and this post.



The data available in Google Analytics, AdSense and Doubleclick does not have a partisan "you must be this tall to ride" sign.

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 03:08 PM (ZctoY)

I seem to remember there was some pretty good proof that google was skewing search results to rank leftist sources higher than conservative sources. This would have been back around 2006 or thereabouts. And sure, google's publicly available or commercially-available services are there for whoever ponies up the price.

It's what they are capable of doing (and may be doing) that bothers me. Since I don't NEED to use them, I don't. Anymore than I NEED to have a TV, or NEED to go to a goddam movie.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 12, 2013 03:22 PM (673KB)

304 The Free Republic? What an incredibly reliable and reputable source of information, especially related to internet technology!

Seriously, go ahead and hate them and don't trust them. But there is zero proof to suggest that they aided the Democrats on-the-sly while actively shunning the GOP's business.

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 03:24 PM (ZctoY)

305 coffee shops are liberal

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 03:24 PM (60GaT)

306 That google sure has its massive tentacles in everything as it hovers over the nation, almost like some sort of...octopus. A massive hovering octopus.

Posted by: .87c at February 12, 2013 03:24 PM (rKWA4)

307 304 H2u,

Yes because OW$ is a respected source of news to well the news media and our own lunatics asylum must be mocked....

Hzu go suck Google's magic cream cannon or whatever the fuck...they slant their search results and they reject ads that hurt democrats.

Fuck 'em...

I pray for Amnesty so I can use La raza to send Mexifornia home.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:25 PM (LRFds)

308 "I seem to remember there was some pretty good proof that google was skewing search results to rank leftist sources higher than conservative sources. This would have been back around 2006 or thereabouts. And sure, google's publicly available or commercially-available services are there for whoever ponies up the price."

Google absolutely ranks sites using their own formula. That -- again -- is part of their business. They determine relevancy in order to be better at selling eyeballs. If you don't like their search product, there are plenty of others to use.

But the suggestion that Google's data mining efforts were used to funnel information *directly* to Democrats --and only Democrats -- is just ludicrous. And that's basically what Redstate -- and Ace by association -- are suggesting.

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 03:26 PM (ZctoY)

309 you know i used to read wikipedia more back in the day and noticed that a lot of the articles related to U.S. foreign policy had a decidedly leftward slant. like left-of-left in a lot of instances, "Stalin wasn't that bad" left.

maybe wannabe revolutionaries are just more attracted to teh intertubez. it wouldn't be surprising.

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 03:26 PM (60GaT)

310 305 JDP,

their corporate ownership anyway...although I must admit the starbucks on 31 does seem to attract moobats like some tiki lamp of Fruit Fly estrus...

must be fair trade mocha grande

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:27 PM (LRFds)

311 I've been saying for years that FB is just as bad.

When I was in college (Marketing) the Big Prize was being able to find early adopters and personal guru's. Early adopters pay for a lot of the RD (through buying the newest gadgets) while the personal guru (for anything-TV's, cars, computers) could influence the non-early adopters buying decisions. But it wasn't technically or financially feasible to find them at that time.

If a company could get to those 2 (often the same person) groups then all sorts of awesome things would begin to happen. Now, FB has that capability. The EAs and PGs come to FB, free. FBs only cost is to compile the data and, with an algorithm, they can uncover who these people are and keep tabs on them.

But there is another aspect that is a more recent development. In Iraq the military developed the capability to predict where IEDs were going to be placed and would park a drone over the predicted area and wait to zap the terrorists. They did this by mapping the social network (or, organization chart) of suspected terrorist cells. This is what they used to nab Saddam Hussein.

Then there's the OODA Loop, which I won't go into. Suffice to say that once they can play round in your OODA Loop, the game is over and you don't even know it until they want you to know.

Posted by: JJA at February 12, 2013 03:28 PM (dm7Ev)

312 308 H2U,

right...."crazy"....

I mean it is not like jim Massina was bragging right up to the edge of that admission anyway is it?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84103.html



Messina got a piece of advice from Google Chairman Eric Schmidt: Hire smart people. And not necessarily political types.

“You want smart people, who you are going to draw what you want and
they’re going to build it. Messina said Schmidt, who served as a
campaign adviser, told him.



If Jim messina can ever stop looking like a pedo Bear and such I'd love for a journalist to ask how often he was shaking Goggle's hand and sucking their dick....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:30 PM (LRFds)

313 311 JJA,

You're not telling most of us here ANYTHING new with the OODA loop...

W got it, Romney's people didn't.

Fucking conmen.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:31 PM (LRFds)

314 309 JDP,

anything not implicitly anti-left will be dragged into being overtly left....


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:33 PM (LRFds)

315 "Yes because OW$ is a respected source of news to well the news media and our own lunatics asylum must be mocked...."

i recall media types being sympathetic toward OWS. i don't recall them using them as a "respected source of news."

why is everything tribal for you, some guy makes some comments disagreeing and you turn it into "kissing Google's ass"

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 03:33 PM (60GaT)

316 314 this i can agree with

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 03:34 PM (60GaT)

317 Susan Collins just got Hater Hagel confirmed....

Susan Collins....so moderate it is like having a Democrat in our caucus....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:36 PM (LRFds)

318
I use DuckDuckGo...works great. Here is the company motto:
"We believe in better search not tracking"
They.Do.Not.Track.
Use it.

Posted by: TheJane at February 12, 2013 03:37 PM (Km/Pn)

319 313
The OODA Loop + FB social networks + Google = ?

The fascists have us in their crosshairs. We're like lab rats in a maze now. We'll go where they want us to go.

Posted by: JJA at February 12, 2013 03:37 PM (JeBIy)

320 315 JDP,

because he's kissing Goggle's ass?

OW$ runs interference for OWSers accused of domestic terrorism in a way they try to smear the Tea Party with ANY violent act whether done by OW$ or not....

Goggle slants searches to leftwing sites and memes...

I have no use for anyone who wants to pretend Goggle would aid the GOP or "give friendly advice" to the GOP like they did Messina and Obarka.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:38 PM (LRFds)

321 319 JJA,

not "us' the "DC GOP"....

the Jim Messina's Marauders may hop on my 6 just to find a civil war.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:39 PM (LRFds)

322 "I have no use for anyone who wants to pretend Goggle would aid the GOP or "give friendly advice" to the GOP like they did Messina and Obarka."

Eric Schmidt is not Google the company. You do realize that, right? Just like Mitt Romney isn't Bain Capital...

Posted by: h2u at February 12, 2013 03:42 PM (ZctoY)

323
I find this hard to believe considering the justice dept was wielding a serious investigation against them which was dropped either late in the election or just after the election.Posted by: Whatev at February 12, 2013 01:57 PM (A7Wh1)

But those facts don't negate the possibility of collusion; in fact, they're perfectly consistent with it. Maybe the investigation was dropped as a quid pro quo.

Not saying that that's the case, by any means, but your observations cuts two ways.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 12, 2013 03:43 PM (IDSI7)

324 322
Krupp Steel. Mercedes Benz. BMW.

GM. Goldman Sachs. GE.

Posted by: JJA at February 12, 2013 03:44 PM (JeBIy)

325 322 HzU,

Yeah and my political position is not banning tampons...

no matter what Messina's Marauders succeeded in getting the Fucking Dunhams to believe.

Schmidt hearts donks...

Goggle donates heavily to Donks, Googles magicbaby batter formula aids donks, but yeah no way in fuck Goggle would help donks....

that's be silly shally...why I even point out where Goggle refused to air a direct reset ad against Donks that had ran against the GOP....literally the same ad with just names changed....

"nah we don't do that..."

Goggle has "the right" to be fuckhead partisans under my ethics, of course they back politicians that use the methods and regulatory power of the state to fuck my favorite business model but hey 'don't be evil"


Fuck Google.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:45 PM (LRFds)

326 324 JJA,

That's right....

GM is not Donk friendly at all...well except for the massive loans, the fact that Obarka influenced the board etc etc etc

Donks and Leftist Corpo types LOVE fascism...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:46 PM (LRFds)

327
I've been saying for years that FB is just as bad.

Why does anyone over the age of 20 use Facebook? Seriously. I thought it was aimed at teenaged girls, but apparently not.

As a wise man once said, if you're not the customer, then you're the product.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 12, 2013 03:46 PM (IDSI7)

328 rage against the everything

Posted by: JDP at February 12, 2013 03:47 PM (60GaT)

329 328 JDP,

so you don't think the GM Clint ad was a blowjob for Ogabe then?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 03:49 PM (LRFds)

330 327 Jay,
Alas, over 1B people do. And FB has a marketing man's gold and diamond mine all in one. LinkedIn also. It's a big boys and girls FB. Same business model only more targeted and targetable.

Posted by: JJA at February 12, 2013 03:53 PM (WAHqd)

331 And to suggest Google, the company, gives a shit about WHO (poltiically) buys their advertising is rather ridiculous.Ridiculous to think they might care any more than Al Gore's group did when they sold their company to Al-Jazeera (as opposed to Beck's group) because they wanted to do business with someone who shared their left wing political inclinations.

Posted by: RM at February 12, 2013 04:09 PM (TRsME)

332 AllenG said: So how do you combat the advantage?

Encryption. AES and SSL. Computation is cheap and decreases as an inverse exponential.

The only reason we don't have end-to-end encryption is because Google won't allow it. Because it would slash their revenue stream. Because then they wouldn't be able to data mine our emails for their targeted ads as they already do today and who knows what analytics tomorrow.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 12, 2013 04:36 PM (jhI6f)

333 RM said: And to suggest Google, the company, gives a shit about WHO (poltiically) buys their advertising is rather ridiculous

There is also the [related] issue of the revolving door between Google and the Obama campaign's electronic staff...

Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 12, 2013 04:37 PM (jhI6f)

334 My decided view on activism for the Left by following:
Facebook--active manipulation. Immature Children running things. The kind who kill on Lord of thr Flies island.

Google--more adult. General awareness, some one-time slipping of data.

Take it as you will.

Posted by: Fir at February 12, 2013 05:07 PM (C7j4v)

335 "There is also the [related] issue of the revolving door between Google and the Obama campaign's electronic staff..."

But that's an issue in every corporation, everywhere.

The left attracts tech talent because they, you know, actually try to attract them. The right prefers to sit around whining about how unfair it all is.

The GOP has had many opportunities to champion pivotal regulatory and technology reforms which would benefit the country and, at the same time, make the GOP natural allies with major tech companies. Then they don't. Why? Because they're stupid.

Posted by: GalosGann at February 12, 2013 05:16 PM (T3KlW)

336 "If they aren't already doing so, they're fucking retarded."

Yes. Yes, they are.

Posted by: GalosGann at February 12, 2013 05:18 PM (T3KlW)

337 I don't need proof of anything
if my thoughts tell me that Google is fucking over conservatives, then it must be troo!!!!1111!!!

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 05:20 PM (Gk22/)

338 sven hearts nonsese

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 05:21 PM (Gk22/)

339 yes, i am trolling. After reading sven's comments I think the technology gap between us and the libs is even wider and worse then I thought.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 05:23 PM (Gk22/)

340 Raytheon has nothin' on me

Posted by: The Mule at February 12, 2013 06:14 PM (UzODD)

341 Look, the problem is as bad as Google is show me the internet company that's better?

Apple? Really. They've been in bed with the Left since the 80s.

Microsoft? Oh please. They're every bit as bad as Google for passing information to the Left, they just didn't invest in search analytics first.

Name a viable alternative, or better yet BUILD ONE, and I'll use it. But until you do, if the choice is between Android and iPad, well there's really no difference except what works better.

Posted by: Shawn G at February 12, 2013 07:05 PM (/lltO)

342 LA link just switched to SitU - turning it off. Are there supposed to be two tied up in the burning cabin?

Posted by: Ruby Waco at February 12, 2013 09:02 PM (WgBz9)

343 I told you Google was evil.

duckduckgo.com and ixquick.com are privacy focused search engines and I have a juno.com e-mail account, but would like to get rid of my yahoo.com e-mail if you find another free option that is similar.

:wq!

Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at February 13, 2013 01:00 AM (SS8WM)

344 I quit using Google years ago, and a while back I deleted all Google stuff off of my computer.

Posted by: Smorgasbord at February 13, 2013 06:55 AM (oLbir)

345 Google is the Brawndo of our Idiocracy.

Posted by: realityman at February 13, 2013 08:53 AM (9AQdP)






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