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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 09:11 AM (8y9MW)

2 I feel it is my duty to warn the Queen.


AtC, if you see this, DO NOT GO TO BRAZIL. Ever.

It's......raining spiders.


http://tinyurl.com/a579xa2

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 09:12 AM (M4gDn)

3 BCochran! Did you ever see my "homework" from a couple of nights ago?

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:14 AM (GQ8sn)

4 The Norks should have had their asses kicked many decades ago. I have never understood the mindset that we should allow enemies to BECOME a threat.





Curtis Le May, where are you now that we need you?


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:14 AM (bb5+k)

5 We was robbed!

Posted by: Y-not's collies at February 12, 2013 09:14 AM (5H6zj)

6 3 BCochran! Did you ever see my "homework" from a couple of nights ago?
Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:14 AM (GQ8sn)



Hey EC! No I didn't! I've barely been on at all the last week or so. Been sick.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 09:16 AM (M4gDn)

7 Dick Cheney's other question that was never aired:

"Charlie, would you like me to strap this cougar on my WarCock and give you a size 20 poop chute?"

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:17 AM (GQ8sn)

8 Reflections On Gun Control From A Second Amendment Advocate

Prepare for a take-down of this. It's so full of fallacious arguments, I almost can't wrap my mind around them.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 09:18 AM (8y9MW)

9 You gotta love our "reset button diplomacy" the Norks are gonna nuke Seattle one day.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 09:18 AM (LRFds)

10 Rand is for a slightly different form of amnesty,

I'm more of a RINO on immigration on principle, and politically anchor babies will be voting in a couple decades anyways.

Op-ed in nic.

Just waiting for everyone here to wail and gnash your teeth, instead of forcing the Wrong People to do the Right Thing(TM).

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 09:18 AM (FsUAO)

11 Pro tip: when presenting your opinion, do not begin by insulting those to whom you are presenting.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 09:20 AM (M4gDn)

12 8 Allen G,

The article seems okay for what it is.

I am almost of a mind to have the assholes keep pushing because sooner or Later SCotUS may knock down the '34 law.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 09:21 AM (LRFds)

13 Hey EC! No I didn't! I've barely been on at all the last week or so. Been sick.

I posted one in Gabe's thread directly below and one from a couple of nights ago just before you checked out. I'll post them both again.

http://oi48.tinypic.com/1jq4g5.jpg


http://oi47.tinypic.com/6g972a.jpg

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:21 AM (GQ8sn)

14 Pro tip: when presenting your opinion, do not begin by insulting those to whom you are presenting.

Huh??

Has the Moron Handbook been revised?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:22 AM (F3G1y)

15 I'm more of a RINO on immigration on principle, and politically anchor babies will be voting in a couple decades anyways.



Op-ed in nic.



Just waiting for everyone here to wail and gnash your teeth, instead of forcing the Wrong People to do the Right Thing(TM).

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 09:18 AM (FsUAO)

George Will wrote that Anchor Babies are a misapplication of the US v Wong Kim Ark case.

Ann Coulter writes that Anchor Babies were created by a footnote of Judge Brennan.

I will further point out that the Eisenhower administration routinely deported Anchor Babies.


How did we get to this level of idiocy?


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:22 AM (bb5+k)

16 The only way TFG is going to do more to the Norks than issue a strongly worded statement is if they suddenly became Republicans.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2013 09:23 AM (KjlbF)

17 NPR: North Korean Nuke Test Seems Timed To Upstage Obama's State Of The Union

Me: Pope Benedict seems to have timed his abdication announcement to upstage Obama's SOTU. Everything is about Obama, right?

Posted by: zippy at February 12, 2013 09:24 AM (G+xDV)

18 Listening to our "local Limbaugh" Tom Bauerle, broadcasting live from the anti-Cuomo Gun Grab rally in Albany.

I so wish I was there.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2013 09:24 AM (7ObY1)

19 Both elevators in my building on the fritz. Just walked up 17 flights. Boy are my arms tired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (XkWWK)

20 State of the Union boycott this evening. Don't want to listen to TFG. Yeah, regular JEF boycott ruled in effect.

Would comment on a live blog though.

With the usual profanity...

Posted by: sTevo at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (YSd1Q)

21 How did we get to this level of idiocy?
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:22 AM (bb5+k)

Ok that level of gnashing is pretty danged useless. We are not going to stop anchor babies.

For me it's the Lucy Football gag is what's wrong with his plan. Congress isn't going to NOT rubber stamp the process, for fear of being a xenophobe.

Rand should know better, much like he points out congress has NEVER(except at the end of Vietnam) taken away funds from the Pres once troops are on the ground. Same will happen with amnesty.

I want security first. THEN some sort of amnesty law. Only after.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (FsUAO)

22 Feds fear Chris Dorner may have fled to Mexico and may have had an accomplice who helped him escape.

In other words, he's home free!

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn)

23
I am almost of a mind to have the assholes keep pushing because sooner or Later SCotUS may knock down the '34 law.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 09:21 AM (LRFds)

I've been wondering about that. Machine guns are to "arms" what television is to the Printing press.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (bb5+k)

24 Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:21 AM (GQ8sn)



You sir, are a Moron of the highest order and a Member In Good Standing of the Morons Who Are Outwardly Crude But Still Respect Their Vows.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 09:26 AM (M4gDn)

25
Obama Retaliates With A Strongly Worded Statement



Time to whip out my favorite Red Dwarf quote yet again, paraphrased to meet the situation.

"RIMMER: The time for talking is over. Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit (them) hard and hit (them) fast, with a major, and I mean major, leaflet campaign."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:26 AM (4df7R)

26
House Republicans are looking to reach out to Hispanic voters via a new Spanish-language Twitter feed that debuted Monday afternoon.

Bienvenidos a la página oficial de Twitter de la Conferencia Republicana de la Cámara de Representantes de los Estados Unidos.
— Conferencia GOP (@GOPespanol) February 11, 2013

The feed is the latest in an attempt by Republicans to woo Hispanic voters after 71 percent broke for President Obama in the last election.

The Hill




Finally, an appeal to the silent majority of non-English speaking Hispanic voters who are reallies for trulies Republicans....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 09:26 AM (kdS6q)

27 You know, I'm probably an asshole, but when I read the article about the Bin Laden shooter I couldn't help but think why in the world would someone with 16 years in walk away before retirement? It's a hard life, true, but is the SEAL complaining or the guy writing the article complaining? It sounds to me like someone is pushing the "fairness of military retirement." http://tinyurl.com/3fw8ezb

Posted by: no good deed at February 12, 2013 09:26 AM (mjR67)

28 22 Feds fear Chris Dorner may have fled to Mexico and may have had an accomplice who helped him escape.

In other words, he's home free!
Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn)


On to Venezuela to become the head of Venezuelan Homeland Security Dept., no doubt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 12, 2013 09:26 AM (XkWWK)

29 I've been wondering about that. Machine guns are to "arms" what television is to the Printing press.

Why stop the analogy there?

Hellfire missiles for all!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:26 AM (F3G1y)

30 Feds fear Chris Dorner may have fled to Mexico and may have had an accomplice who helped him escape.

Hey, if he promised to deliver a truckload of guns to the Zetas, his accomplice is probably one Eric "Stedman" Holder.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:27 AM (4df7R)

31 You sir, are a Moron of the highest order and a Member In Good Standing
of the Morons Who Are Outwardly Crude But Still Respect Their Vows.


Thanks!

There was going to be more, but RWC just got back from putting his dog down and I didn't want to step all over his grief and others' condolences.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:28 AM (GQ8sn)

32 Hey, if he promised to deliver a truckload of guns to the Zetas, his accomplice is probably one Eric "Stedman" Holder.

And if he ever decides to re-cross the border again, he can claim to be an illegal alien and ICE can't touch him!

Win-win for Dorner.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:28 AM (GQ8sn)

33 It's a hard life, true, but is the SEAL complaining or the guy writing the article complaining? It sounds to me like someone is pushing the "fairness of military retirement." http://tinyurl.com/3fw8ezb

I had the same thought.

And this is coming from a guy who almost threw in the towel at 17 years. I'd you leave before 20, you should not have your hand out.

He could also join the Active Reserve and finish out his time there.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:29 AM (F3G1y)

34 29 Why stop the analogy there?

Hellfire missiles for all!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:26 AM (F3G1y)



I'm of the opinion "if you can afford it, you can own it."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 09:29 AM (M4gDn)

35 The feed is the latest in an attempt by Republicans to woo Hispanic voters after 71 percent broke for President Obama in the last election.

Meh. I don't mind them "reaching out" to the Hispanic community. I DO mind them acting like making millions of illegals into legal citizens is going to create a whole new block of Republican voters, when all evidence points to the contrary.

A Spanish language Twitter feed is one thing. Blanket amnesty* is something else all together.


* As in amnesty for all illegals, not amnesty for blankets

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:29 AM (4df7R)

36 29 Sean Bannion,

Why not?

I practice better fire discipline than LAPD after all....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)

37 You sir, are a Moron of the highest order and a Member In Good Standing of the Morons Who Are Outwardly Crude But Still Respect Their Vows.

Should he not have been nominated for the Lewdness Cross with Peanut Cluster?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:31 AM (F3G1y)

38 Why stop the analogy there?
Hellfire missiles for all!!!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:26 AM (F3G1y)



As I've mentioned before, why the hell can't I have a tank if I want one? If I can scrape together the money, why shouldn't I be allowed to buy one?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:31 AM (4df7R)

39
* As in amnesty for all illegals, not amnesty for blankets
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:29 AM (4df7R)

Rand at least admits he's doing it out of principle, and not for political expediency.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 09:32 AM (FsUAO)

40 He could also join the Active Reserve and finish out his time there.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:29 AM (F3G1y)

That's what I was thinkin. Something doesn't smell right about any of this. I'm thinkin some of our greatest commandos my by suffering from a disease that has swept across America. HEY MOM, LOOK AT ME, I'M ON TV disease.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 12, 2013 09:32 AM (l86i3)

41
Let me tell you about that 5 years of free healthcare the "shooter" gets. My son got out of the Navy last year (Corpsman with the Marines, incl. Afghanistan). He broke two bones in his hand that requires surgery to remove the pieces and he tore his shoulder muscle while deployed. Throw in PTSD from seeing shit that I hope none of us ever have to deal with and he's pretty f'd up. The Navy said "Yeah, you're f'd up, but you're getting out too soon to fix it. You'll have to get the VA to take care of it when you get home." Guess what? Six months later he's still got a torn shoulder muscle, two broken bones in his hand and he can't sleep through the night without dreaming about the dead child he had to scrape up or the IED that almost killed him or the sniper bullet that missed his head because he reached for his medic bag at the right time or his buddies that came home in boxes. All he's got from the VA is a "Yes, you're f'd up. We'll get around to you sooner or later."
Fuck.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at February 12, 2013 09:32 AM (G1aEt)

42 I'm of the opinion "if you can afford it, you can own it."

I really want my M-1 back.

I love you A-65!!!! :::: sob ::::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:32 AM (F3G1y)

43
The sister and niece of U.S. comedian Sarah Silverman have been detained in Jerusalem's Old City for wearing prayer shawls that tradition dictates are to be worn only by Orthodox Jewish men.

Reform Rabbi Susan Silverman and 17-year-old Hallel Silverman were among ten people detained at the Western Wall, one of the holiest sites in all of Judaism.

Susan told the New York Daily News from Jerusalem that was ‘proud to take a stand for something I believe in,’ adding that there is a great inequality at the Jewish holy site, calling the rules banning women from wearing shawls and reading the Torah are ‘outdated.’

Sarah Silverman wrote on her Twitter page that she was 'SO proud' of her sister and niece for their 'civil disobedience,’ as well as more crass language typical of the outspoken comedian. Her niece Hallel cheekily tweeted back: ‘hey auntie, want a copy of my mugshot?’

DailyMail




Later in the day, the Silvermans attempted the same sort of proactive and totally in my face stunt at the Dome of The Rock. They were beaten to death with paving stones.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 09:32 AM (kdS6q)

44 Both elevators in my building on the fritz. Just walked up 17 flights. Boy are my arms tired.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (XkWWK)


You walked on your hands?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:33 AM (4df7R)

45 - "The Norks Apparenlty Set Off A Nuke Yesterday"

Owing China over a trillion dollars won't exactly help our leverage over the situation.

- "NYT Calls On Menendez To Give Up His Leadership Post"

When you're a Democrat and you've lost the NYT....

- "Esquire Wrongly Claims SEAL Who Killed Bin Ladin Is Denied Healthcare"

Obviously. It's pretty difficult to deny healthcare to a military veteran. Tricare is not Blue Cross, but nevertheless the former is accepted pretty much everywhere. VA hospitals are not on every street corner, but they're around. But when it comes the liberal media the narrative is what matters.

- "Manchin Doesn't Support AWB"

Obviously. West Virginia is not the Western Addition of San Francisco.

- "The Looming Battle for Iran"

Yep. And that battle and more particularly how it's waged and who wins and who loses all could have negative ripple effects that last multiple decades. Outside of the coffee klatches and the sewing circles of the chattering classes the brutal reality is politics has very severe real world consequences.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at February 12, 2013 09:33 AM (r2PLg)

46 It's......raining spiders.

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OMFG! I have no words for the horror this inflicts upon my psyche.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 12, 2013 09:33 AM (ATdet)

47 Ok that level of gnashing is pretty danged useless. We are not going to stop anchor babies.






Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (FsUAO)


I regard it pretty danged important that we should adhere to a set of principles, whether they be politically expedient or not. Ad Hoc philosophy is not a winner in the long run.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:34 AM (bb5+k)

48 38 MWR,

You *can* own a tank...High School Chemistry teacher owned a Sherman and a Lee tank...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 09:34 AM (LRFds)

49 State of the Union boycott this evening. Don't want to listen to TFG. Yeah, regular JEF boycott ruled in effect.



Would comment on a live blog though.



With the usual profanity...

Posted by: sTevo at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (YSd1Q)


Tammy Bruce will be conducting a Mystery Science 3000 simulcast where she'll be mocking everything "that dumb bastard in the White House" will be saying until she can't take his lies and bullshit any more and will cut him off in disgust.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 12, 2013 09:34 AM (k++pf)

50 When I first read a transcript of Brennan's speech to a Muslim group, I said to an associate who works in intel (former fiance), "Brennan's a Muslim, isn't he?"

We are infested.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 12, 2013 09:35 AM (Su0W2)

51 Later in the day, the Silvermans attempted the same sort of proactive and totally in my face stunt at the Dome of The Rock. They were beaten to death with paving stones.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 09:32 AM (kdS6q)

I'm not Jewish, but I wore a headcovering at the Western Wall. They hand out cardboard ones at the wall.

Anything less you are being a douche.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 09:35 AM (FsUAO)

52 42 Sean bannion,

You need to get to work on JP-8 futures....

the problem with private Abrams ownership is a lot like the problem with private F-86 ownership...

the fuel bill

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 09:35 AM (LRFds)

53 It's......raining spiders.

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OMFG! I have no words for the horror this inflicts upon my psyche.


Posted by: Lady in Black at February 12, 2013 09:33 AM (ATdet)


Be sure to check the insides of your purse.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:35 AM (GQ8sn)

54 The article seems okay for what it is.

I am almost of a mind to have the assholes keep pushing because sooner or Later SCotUS may knock down the '34 law.

It had better be sooner. If skeeter gets to appoint an SC Just-us, I can see some type of end run tax around the 2nd Am.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2013 09:35 AM (GFM2b)

55 Me: Pope Benedict seems to have timed his abdication announcement to upstage Obama's SOTU. Everything is about Obama, right?

Posted by: zippy at February 12, 2013 09:24 AM (G+xDV)

I can't imagine that Pope B16 cares a fat ugly damn about Obama in any way, shape or form. Truly, the SCOAMF is so far out of B16's league as to hardly even exist.

Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2013 09:36 AM (ZOUmX)

56 We are infested.
Posted by: baldilocks at February 12, 2013 09:35 AM (Su0W2)

Baldi you believe it?

It's just like Homeland.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 09:36 AM (FsUAO)

57 50 Baldilocks,

the problem with brennan ain't his Jihadi jim fetish its his emo bracelet fetish

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 09:36 AM (LRFds)

58 Later in the day, the Silvermans attempted the same sort of proactive and totally in my face stunt at the Dome of The Rock. They were beaten to death with paving stones.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 09:32 AM (kdS6q)


I dare the Silvermans to try and walk into Mecca.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:36 AM (4df7R)

59 I dare the Silvermans to try and walk into Mecca.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:36 AM (4df7R)


I wish they would.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 12, 2013 09:38 AM (l86i3)

60 Both elevators in my building on the fritz. Just walked up 17 flights. Boy are my arms tired. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 12, 2013 09:25 AM (XkWWK)
You walked on your hands?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit

I'm guessing excessive ambidextrous masturbation brought on by boredom.

A moron's gotta fap.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 12, 2013 09:39 AM (BrQrN)

61 I'm of the opinion "if you can afford it, you can own it."


Those that can probably already do. It's not like the law is going to touch them.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2013 09:39 AM (GFM2b)

62 I'm thinking the Silvermans just got a lesson in "grow the fuck up." Childish stunts that mean absolutely nothing in the long run but about which they should be embarrassed in the short run. They are proving why women should not be allowed to wear prayer shawls and read Torah. "Look at me, I'm making fun of 5,000 years of tradition. Aren't I cool?" Asshats.

Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2013 09:40 AM (ZOUmX)

63 I dare the Silvermans to try and walk into Mecca.

There's pay-per-view gold in them there hills, I do say.

Posted by: akula51 at February 12, 2013 09:40 AM (YesJa)

64 If the cob's don't do something fun here, I will tune into Tammy Bruce, for grins.

Posted by: sTevo at February 12, 2013 09:40 AM (OcVOw)

65 I'm not Jewish, but I wore a headcovering at the Western Wall. They hand out cardboard ones at the wall.

Anything less you are being a douche.


THIS

Catholicism has the same type of grandstanding douchebags. I don't get it. If your faith is doing something you don't like....leave. Why stay somewhere that requires you to compromise your beliefs?

You ought to struggle with your faith. Otherwise it's not faith...you're just a robot. But faith requires you to submit your will to God's - even if it is hard.

If you cannot do that you have, in effect, made yourself God.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:40 AM (F3G1y)

66 I can't imagine that Pope B16 cares a fat ugly damn about Obama in any way, shape or form. Truly, the SCOAMF is so far out of B16's league as to hardly even exist.
Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2013 09:36 AM (ZOUmX)


Oh absolutely. Benedict couldn't care less about Obammy's SoTU. But the MEDIA sees everything through Barack-tinted glasses, which means that anything newsworthy that happens on or around the same time as a major Obammy moment MUST have been done to upstage their Mocha Messiah.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:40 AM (4df7R)

67 All of your bonded liquor is watered down.

With a good still and a thumper, you're going to get 80%+ alcohol out of the worm.

My moonshine book says it's best to use the same source of water you used in your mash to dilute it back down to the 40-55% range you want.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 12, 2013 09:41 AM (VjL9S)

68 The article seems okay for what it is.

Sorry. Been writing (and about to go back to doing that).

Parts of it are. As I re-read it, it's not as totally wrong as I thought when I skimmed it. Nevertheless, there are some pretty big flaws, to my mind.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 09:42 AM (8y9MW)

69 I'm guessing excessive ambidextrous masturbation brought on by boredom.

Is your name Ray McKigney??

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 09:42 AM (F3G1y)

70 anything newsworthy that happens on or around the
same time as a major Obammy moment MUST have been done to upstage their
Mocha Messiah.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:40 AM



And truly, upstaging that limp dick is not all that difficult. I'm thinking "Betty White has a hangnail" would just about do it.

Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2013 09:42 AM (ZOUmX)

71 Yeah, there's a guy who owns a crap load of old tanks in Danville Virginia. Open to the public to check them out, but I've never stopped. It's on my to-do day-trip list.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 12, 2013 09:42 AM (ZshNr)

72 Why isn't the Westminster Dog Show on the Food Network?

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at February 12, 2013 09:43 AM (ypzqs)

73 You *can* own a tank...High School Chemistry teacher owned a Sherman and a Lee tank...

A scenario paintball player who has more money than sense owns a WWII Brit Ferret, (wheeled - that he would bring to games) & a fully restored tracked Tiger tank that he would take to shows.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2013 09:43 AM (GFM2b)

74 IOC removing wrestling?


WTFucketyFuck??

Posted by: RWC at February 12, 2013 09:43 AM (fWAjv)

75
An increasing number of childless men and women, who are finding themselves single at 40, are now pairing up to build families, minus any romance. Instead of becoming single parents by choice, these middle-age professional are turning to co-parenting, a growing trend where singles meet online with the sole objective to become equal partners in raising a child.

This new breed of online daters are turning to websites like Modamily.com and Co-ParentMatch.com, which use a compatibility test for people to seek out shared parenting values. However the logistics, from choosing how to conceive to the custody arrangements, are decided once a pair is matched-up.

Presenting an alternative to surrogacy, adoption or simple sperm donation, sites like PollenTree.com, Coparents.com, and MyAlternativeFamily.com, as well as Modamily and Co-ParentMatch, are quickly growing in popularity.

DailyMail




Wow. All the effort of expense of being a parent, but without any sex.

Sign me up.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 09:43 AM (kdS6q)

76 Anything less you are being a douche.

THIS Catholicism has the same type of grandstanding douchebags. I don't get it. If your faith is doing something you don't like....leave. Why stay somewhere that requires you to compromise your beliefs?


Oikophobia is the height of douchebaggery.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 12, 2013 09:43 AM (BrQrN)

77 Erm, I think we're losing sight of the real issue here, which is: what
are we gonna call ourselves? Erm, and I think it comes down to a choice
between "The League Against Salivating Monsters" or my own personal
preference, which is "The Committee for the Liberation and Integration
of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society."

Posted by: Arnold J Radish at February 12, 2013 09:44 AM (/kI1Q)

78 Wow. All the effort of expense of being a parent, but without any sex.

Sign me up.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 09:43 AM (kdS6q)

Wait, what's the difference?!?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 12, 2013 09:45 AM (FsUAO)

79 I follow Allen West on FB. He uses the term Dear Leader now when referencing TFG. He was always (rightfully) critical of this bastard, but now that he's not in office, he seems to have stepped it up a notch.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 12, 2013 09:46 AM (ATdet)

80 I'm thinking the Silvermans just got a lesson in "grow the fuck up."

I'm thinking they won't learn shit from this. They're incapable of it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 09:47 AM (/kI1Q)

81 ]IOC removing wrestling?
WTFucketyFuck??

Posted by: RWC at February 12, 2013 09:43 AM (fWAjv)



Yeah,I don't get that either. I've always thought Olympic Wrestling was one of the more popular and hotly contested of the sports. And since it doesn't require much in the way of equipment it's not something that's prohibitively expensive for less wealthy nations, unlike something like hockey or even soccer.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:47 AM (4df7R)

82 Is your name Ray McKigney??

The missus does think I have exquisite hands, but I'm still master of my domain!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 12, 2013 09:48 AM (BrQrN)

83
Posted by: Arnold J Radish at February 12, 2013 09:44 AM (/kI1Q)


Another Red Dwarf fan! *showers Radish with pie recipes!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:48 AM (4df7R)

84
I'm of the opinion "if you can afford it, you can own it."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 09:29 AM (M4gDn)


Agreed, but if you use it, there will be hell to pay. I also have no issues with "regulation" or oversight of such devices.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:50 AM (bb5+k)

85 I follow Allen West on FB. He uses the term Dear Leader now when referencing TFG. He was always (rightfully) critical of this bastard, but now that he's not in office, he seems to have stepped it up a notch.


When he starts calling him teh JEF or Skeeter, THEN he will have stepped it up.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2013 09:51 AM (GFM2b)

86 An increasing number of childless men and women, who are finding themselves single at 40, are now pairing up to build families, minus any romance. Instead of becoming single parents by choice, these middle-age professional are turning to co-parenting, a growing trend where singles meet online with the sole objective to become equal partners in raising a child.

Given that the majority of marriages throughout history have been driven by the need for a helpmate as least as much as sexual attraction, I can only repeat Solomon's observation that there is nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 09:51 AM (U3ERv)

87 Morning all. So no more wrestling in the Olympics? Can the marathon be far behind. But we still have synchronized swimming right?

Hey how about them wild and wacky North Koreans?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 09:51 AM (9Bj8R)

88 White House Chef: It's Never Too Late To Stop Obesity

Anyone know what's being served at tonight's post-STFU festivities?

It's not 2 oz lentils and 1/2 cup raw jicama with 1TBSP lo-fat ranch dip, that's for damn sure.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 09:52 AM (/kI1Q)

89
I follow Allen West on FB. He uses the term Dear Leader now when
referencing TFG. He was always (rightfully) critical of this bastard,
but now that he's not in office, he seems to have stepped it up a notch.



Posted by: Lady in Black at February 12, 2013 09:46 AM (ATdet)


Somebody like Allen West calling the JEF out could make that lowlife punk burn through a pack of Kools so quick it would show up on any infrared detector on a spy satellite. That pansy ass cocksucker knows he doesn't measure up in any masculine qualities to West, and lives in constant fear that it will be made apparent to everybody. IOW, moar pleeze.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 12, 2013 09:54 AM (k++pf)

90 >>which use a compatibility test for people to seek out shared parenting values.

I'm gonna get ahead of the curve and set up an arranged marriage site.

Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 12, 2013 09:54 AM (SUKHu)

91
I dare the Silvermans to try and walk into Mecca.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 09:36 AM (4df7R)

Well that's just it now. These sort only attempt to antagonize those people whom they do not believe will offer a serious threat back to them. Liberals are always criticizing Religious Jews and Christians. Muslims who will hurt them severely?

Not so much. They are cowards at heart.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:55 AM (bb5+k)

92 Removing wrestling from the Olimpicks is a dumb move. Wrestling was one of the original games from ancient Greece. How the hell do you remove a classic like that?

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:56 AM (GQ8sn)

93 In re: Obamacare and electronic medical records. I ran across this disclaimer yesterday when reading a patient'sERprovider's note yesterday. Patient, provider and hospital shall remain nameless. But if this doesn'tat least give you pause, then you're not paying attention.

"This chart was dictated in whole or in part using Voice Recognition software in a busy, high-work load, and often noisy Emergency Department environment; it may contain unintended and wholly unrecognized errors or omissions."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 12, 2013 09:57 AM (qqZuQ)

94 Dr. Carson, probably made him go through a whole case, the other day.

Posted by: archie goodwin at February 12, 2013 09:57 AM (Jsiw/)

95 Wrestling was one of the original games from ancient Greece. How the hell do you remove a classic like that?

Because no one watches it?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 09:57 AM (8y9MW)

96 Sidebar item:

I hope Magpul does move their factory. In fact, any and all companies involved with firearms or firearm accessories need to bug the fuck out of blue states and move to a solidly red state. There is no hope for them if they stay.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:58 AM (GQ8sn)

97
Wrestling was voted out of the Olympics from a final group that also included modern pentathlon, taekwondo and field hockey, officials familiar with the vote told The Associated Press.





So, wrestling out - taekwondo stays.

WTF?

Posted by: Heraclitus of Athens

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 09:58 AM (kdS6q)

98
I'm thinking they won't learn shit from this. They're incapable of it.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 09:47 AM (/kI1Q)

Some months ago I read an article where a Rabbi pointed out that Sarah was not going to be able to have children because she waited too long. Her father got on the website and expressed his outrage and anguish that someone would dare to point this out.

The left believes in death and the absence of life. They will leave a legacy of nothing.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:59 AM (bb5+k)

99 Well that's just it now. These sort only attempt to antagonize those people whom they do not believe will offer a serious threat back to them. Liberals are always criticizing Religious Jews and Christians. Muslims who will hurt them severely? Not so much. They are cowards at heart.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp


To paraphrase Kate of the smalldeadanimals blog: Not showing up to riot is a failed conservative/Jewish/Christian policy.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 12, 2013 09:59 AM (BrQrN)

100 How can people honestly complain about the VA's quality of care? Of COURSE it sucks. It's government run!

The VA is where doctors go to practice when they've had their hospital priveliges revoked and no malpractice carrier will touch them after their third incident of drunkenly removing a kidney during a scheduled tonsillectomy. Impersonal, shitty care.

And complaining about not getting a pension is just fucking retarded. Can you count to twenty? The shit ain't that hard. You've done 16 years, jagoff. Quit griping, write your book and cash in. Then you can take care of your family instead of griping.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 09:59 AM (nxyLn)

101 Wrestling was one of the original games from ancient Greece. How the hell do you remove a classic like that?

Because no one watches it?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 09:57 AM (8y9MW)

They should make wrestling part of female gymnastics. Oh boy I'd watch that one!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 09:59 AM (9Bj8R)

102
Hey how about them wild and wacky North Koreans?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 09:51 AM (9Bj8R)


Long past their expiration date.

Meaning we should have "expired" them long ago.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:00 AM (bb5+k)

103 Re: Tanks

The Danville Tank Museum has a day, usually in April where bring out on of the tanks and run over a few cars.

Last time I went it was a blast.

Posted by: sTevo at February 12, 2013 10:00 AM (sYewh)

104 They should make wrestling part of female gymnastics. Oh boy I'd watch that one!

Olympic Jello Wrestling.

Of course, the only people who should be eligible for said sport should be swimsuit models. Lest we get a Janet Napolitano look-alike.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:01 AM (8y9MW)

105 16 The only way TFG is going to do more to the Norks than issue a strongly worded statement is if they suddenly became Republicans.

---

Fear not, i hear that the whitehouse has created a multi-billion dollar defense department project to invent Even Stronger Words than have ever been deployed by man. Of course most of the work has been outsourced to China...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 12, 2013 10:01 AM (SO2Q8)

106 Wrestling was one of the original games from ancient Greece. How the hell do you remove a classic like that?


Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:56 AM (GQ8sn)


Concepts like tradition and integrity are only marketing tools to the fuckheads in the IOC to increase their jack. You don't really think those grifters care about those things otherwise, do you?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 12, 2013 10:02 AM (k++pf)

107 Remember when we had real men in the White House? God, I miss Dick Cheney.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 12, 2013 10:02 AM (UOM48)

108 Of course, the only people who should be eligible for said sport should be swimsuit models. Lest we get a Janet Napolitano look-alike.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:01 AM (8y9MW)

That's why we make part of female gymnastics so no fat asses would qualify since they would have to do the rings and uneven bar also not to mention the floor exercises

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 10:02 AM (9Bj8R)

109 They should make wrestling part of female gymnastics. Oh boy I'd watch that one!


The ancient Greeks wrestled naked and covered in oil.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 10:03 AM (GQ8sn)

110 52 42 Sean bannion,You need to get to work on JP-8 futures....the problem with private Abrams ownership is a lot like the problem with private F-86 ownership...the fuel bill
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Not after you install the solar panels and the windmill

Posted by: TFG at February 12, 2013 10:03 AM (SO2Q8)

111 God, I miss Dick Cheney.

I don't.

Posted by: The Cougar at February 12, 2013 10:03 AM (8y9MW)

112 They should make wrestling part of female gymnastics. Oh boy I'd watch that one!

The Jello pits would be the size of an Olympic pool!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 10:03 AM (F3G1y)

113 They should make wrestling part of female gymnastics. Oh boy I'd watch that one!

Betting on it would redefine 'beat the spread.'

Posted by: zsasz at February 12, 2013 10:05 AM (MMC8r)

114 Ted Nugent's on his way to DC to sit in the gallery for the SOTU. Guess who's sitting with Mooch? The parents of the Chicago girl who was killed by gangbangers.

I wonder if the little kids who sang at the Super Bowl will also be there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 12, 2013 10:06 AM (UOM48)

115 California is following federal lead with the not enough doctors, lets just wave a wand and call PAs and NPs doctors. When you visit a military care facility you aren't guaranteed to see a doctor. Hell, they don't even tell you if you're seeing a PA, NP or a doctor unless you ask. You're primary care physician may not be a physician. Also, Tricare Prime for retirees has restricted access to care to within 40 miles of a military facility. If you live outside the area, you are automatically enrolled in Tricare Standard, which means higher out of pocket expenses.

Posted by: no good deed at February 12, 2013 10:06 AM (mjR67)

116 The VA is where doctors go to practice when they've had their hospital priveliges revoked and no malpractice carrier will touch them after their third incident of drunkenly removing a kidney during a scheduled tonsillectomy. Impersonal, shitty care.

I have no idea what you ate talking about!!

Posted by: Dr. Mombasa Atusemeso at February 12, 2013 10:06 AM (F3G1y)

117
The ancient Greeks wrestled naked and covered in oil.
Posted by: EC




"Ha ha! Dangly parts."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 10:07 AM (kdS6q)

118 Concepts like tradition and integrity are only marketing tools to the fuckheads in the IOC to increase their jack. You don't really think those grifters care about those things otherwise, do you?
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 12, 2013 10:02 AM (k++pf)


The thing I don't get is that while it might not be the most popular of the Olympic sports here in the States (though the number of high school wrestling programs in the country makes me question that assumption), it only makes sense that it would be popular in countries where the physical strength sports are popular, such as eastern Europe. It's as iconic as weight lifting, and far more accessible to participants who aren't naturally built like a Christmas ham.

I just don't get it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:08 AM (4df7R)

119 84 Agreed, but if you use it, there will be hell to pay. I also have no issues with "regulation" or oversight of such devices.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:50 AM (bb5+k)



I do. The 2nd Amendment neither qualifies nor quantifies "arms."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 10:08 AM (M4gDn)

120 On that Magpul article- Come to Texas. We'd welcome you.

And might I, personally, request that you move operations to Arlington, TX. We have lots of entertainment and shopping, the Dallas Cowboys (love 'em, hate 'em, hate to love 'em, or love to hate 'em), and the Texas Rangers.

Also, that would reduce our local economy's dependence on the GM plant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:08 AM (8y9MW)

121 Sean bannion,You need to get to work on JP-8 futures....

We burned DF-2 in those.

In a pinch, it will also run on Jack Daniels.

Posted by: Dr. Mombaeso at February 12, 2013 10:08 AM (F3G1y)

122 Dammit, off sock

Posting from an iPad is truly a bitch.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 10:09 AM (F3G1y)

123 86, so instead of letting a bunch of elders pick your wife for you, they just go with random Internet selection.

Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2013 10:09 AM (uRbX6)

124 The ancient Greeks wrestled naked and covered in oil.
Posted by: EC

"Ha ha! Dangly parts."


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2013 10:07 AM (kdS6q


And only men competed back then.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 10:09 AM (GQ8sn)

125 Maybe some people should form an International Traditional Olympics completely independent of the current ones. Maybe allow women and allow competitors to wear clothing, but otherwise stick to the Greek traditions.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:10 AM (U3ERv)

126 How can people honestly complain about the VA's quality of care? Of COURSE it sucks. It's government run!



It's not just the quality of care; they have imbeciles in every fucking part of the joint. When I was working on a DFAS project, to correct a prior fuckup by the VA, we received an input file from the agency which was *the* definitive authority on how things are. Turns out I had to filter the fucking thing to flag and remove multiple instances of the same goddamn social security numbers. They had all the fucking tools like the most recent Oracle databases at their disposal, but it was like giving it to a bunch of chimps who didn't have the slightest clue about database design.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 12, 2013 10:11 AM (k++pf)

127
Breaking:

The Pope has a pacemaker.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 10:11 AM (tOkJB)

128 The ancient Greeks wrestled naked and covered in oil.

Yes, and their motto was, "never leave your buddies behind"

Not sure we'll be using them as role models.

Unless you are Anderson Cooper.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 10:11 AM (F3G1y)

129 Also, Tricare Prime for retirees has restricted access to care to within 40 miles of a military facility. If you live outside the area, you are automatically enrolled in Tricare Standard, which means higher out of pocket expenses.
Posted by: no good deed at February 12, 2013 10:06 AM (mjR67)

Yes that's true but it also means you can go to almost any civilian Physician you want. And although the out of pocket costs are higher, it is really in many respects, a better plan. In my humble opinion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 10:12 AM (9Bj8R)

130 My BF Barry and I love to wrestle! We have our own Olympics in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Posted by: Reggie Love at February 12, 2013 10:12 AM (ypzqs)

131 Maybe allow women and allow competitors to wear clothing, but otherwise stick to the Greek traditions.
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TO-INO

Posted by: Zombie Ancient greek at February 12, 2013 10:12 AM (SO2Q8)

132 >>The ancient Greeks wrestled naked and covered in oil.

And boxing was with "gloves" of strips of cloth dipped in resin then dipped in broken glass.

With no weight classes, no rounds, no time limit, victor determined by knockout.

Basically, it was Fight Club.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 12, 2013 10:13 AM (VjL9S)

133
I do. The 2nd Amendment neither qualifies nor quantifies "arms."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 10:08 AM (M4gDn)



And it uses the word "regulated" prominently.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:13 AM (bb5+k)

134 My BF Barry and I love to wrestle! We have our own Olympics in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Reggie Love


Synchronized Slurping?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 12, 2013 10:13 AM (BrQrN)

135 I don't really care about the half dozen people that watch Charlie Rose.

Posted by: burt at February 12, 2013 10:13 AM (/QJXp)

136 128 The ancient Greeks wrestled naked and covered in oil. ---
Some of us still believe in tradition

Posted by: San Francisco at February 12, 2013 10:14 AM (SO2Q8)

137 Maybe they should just replace "wrestling" with Pankration, which after all was the original Olympic contest.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:14 AM (U3ERv)

138 Yes that's true but it also means you can go to almost any civilian Physician you want. And although the out of pocket costs are higher, it is really in many respects, a better plan. In my humble opinion

I agree. But I agree because it works well for me.

If you are in the more rural parts of the U.S., this decision really screws you.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 10:14 AM (F3G1y)

139 Dick Cheney kicks ass again.

Posted by: test at February 12, 2013 10:15 AM (cELsF)

Posted by: Vince McMahon at February 12, 2013 10:16 AM (yAor6)

141 And it uses the word "regulated" prominently.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:13 AM (bb5+k)


Yes. As the reason the Right to Keep and Bear arms shall not be infringed.

That is "Hey, we realize that there's going to have to be an official army- even if it's only a 'militia' which gets called up as needed. Since that road leads to tyranny, we're making it explicit that regular folks get to own guns, too."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:16 AM (8y9MW)

142 The Olympics? fuck em.

Posted by: Vince McMahon at February 12, 2013 10:16 AM (yAor6)

143 And it uses the word "regulated" prominently.

I am pretty sure "regulated" in 18th century military terminology means something along the lines of "trained and organized."

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:17 AM (U3ERv)

144 EPIC: WaPo "blogger" (reporter? idiot?) falls for Pailin story at Daily Currant that she's joining Al-Jazeera.

http://tinyurl.com/bcm47md



Posted by: Tex's Assaultin' Batteries at February 12, 2013 10:17 AM (wtvvX)

145 :::If you are in the more rural parts of the U.S., this decision really screws you.:::

Nonsense. Rural and under served communities are automatically covered under Carousel.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 12, 2013 10:17 AM (nxyLn)

146 Yes that's true but it also means you can go to almost any civilian Physician you want.

Oh, I agree, nevergiveup. It just pissed me off that the Prime option was restricted by location. The PPO option is a much better deal as far as care goes.

Posted by: no good deed at February 12, 2013 10:17 AM (mjR67)

147 Nonsense. Rural and under served communities are automatically covered under Carousel.

Renew!

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 10:18 AM (GQ8sn)

148 #120 That is a great idea AllenG, but how would a move to the peoples Republic of Austin be? Libs heads exploding, it would be like the 4th of July everyday.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 12, 2013 10:18 AM (R8hU8)

149
That esquire storyis a bunch of liberal B.S. The recount of the UBL raid was cool, but nothing but liberal tripe in-between small bits of story. A story with an agenda. When you consider all the benefits, and the fact that those benefits are life long, the military is exceptionally well paid. Someone who retires at 38 as an E7 will receive a cumulative retirement package of about $1.5MILLION in present day dollars, not including medical benefits. They would start out getting paid around $2,000/mo and this would increase to over $8,000/mo as they get older. In addition to this they have access to federally subsidized low-interest loans for buying homes, etc.
And fact is you don't have to stay in to get this either. This is the whole point of the reserves. Become a weekend warrior and do that game for a few more years and bam, you've got your 20 years. I'm playing that game now after my active duty time.
There are other benefits too. Being from Texas I get both the GI Bill and the Hazelwood Act. This counts for 2 college educations. TWO. I haven't used either, I graduated from school before I joined and have paid for graduate school myself since then. I'm reserving these for my kids. You can pass the benefits to your children. Two of my kids college educations arepaid for. I'll have to supplement the cost a little bit, but not much. This saves me about 200k. Took 3 years to be eligible for these benefits.
There are people who have never deployed and never spent any time on active duty who simply join the reserves and they get the 20yr retirement package too. The benefits are also extended to other forms of federal employment. So if after getting out of the military you go into the intel community, join the FBI, border patrol, homeland security, whatever, that all counts towards your 20 year mark.
These benefits are not just the military, it's the federal government at large.
Frankly I think the military's pay is too high, at least as far as the benefits are concerned. Active duty pay varies, some is fair, some is too high, some is too low. Depends on how you look at it. Guys with no education and no prospects can join up and become a cook and make more money than they ever could have hoped to as a civilian. Job security. If you're a guy with a liberal arts degree, being an officer looks pretty damn good. If you're a guy with a real degree, like in engineering or some other difficult discipline that's in high demand, you get paid crap in the military. And this is where the military pay is stupid. You're paid based on rank, not true value. Most are overpaid and you can never get rid of them, but the guys you really want, the guys you really want to hang on to, they are underpaid.

Posted by: Andrew at February 12, 2013 10:18 AM (HS3dy)

150 Nonsense. Rural and under served communities are automatically covered under Carousel.

How widely accepted is it, really?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2013 10:19 AM (F3G1y)

151 It's not just the quality of care; they have imbeciles in every fucking part of the joint.

Again, government run. Government doesn't fire bad employees - it just moves them around.

In the state department where I work they have an employee who is an idiot. She just is. No one wants her working for them because she is a consummate screw up. But they can't fire her because fucking Union (I hate unions, in case you hadnt noticed). So instead they keep moving her around from Bureau to Bureau. Right now she's in the Billing department.


Just FYI, the woman doesn't even know how to use Excel. She was put in charge of updating the ledgers -- aka, "The Record Of All The Money We Have And How It Is Spent And Holy Fuck Don't Screw This Up Because It's Fucking IMPORTANT." All she had to do was type in amounts paid out and amoutns received and let the spreadsheet do the work.


She cleared out the incredibly intricate formulas that had been embedded in the background, that had been in there FOREVER, because she thought she could do it better. The collective shit losing was epic. And now no one trusts or uses the Official Ledger; everyone does their own.


This is teeny, tiny state government. Blow this up to the federal level and you will cry at the level of pure incompetence.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:20 AM (4df7R)

152 On the Magpul sidebar item: I have no experience with their magazines, BUT can attest that their cellphone case, which I got about 2 weeks ago, just saved my ass. I knocked my iPhone from the kitchen counter onto a tile floor, and it bounced. No harm done.

They have them on Amazon, so buy it through the AOSHQ linky. And hopefully it won't get banned because it's really an Assault Case made out of thermoplastics and such.

Posted by: jakeman, Assault V2.0 at February 12, 2013 10:20 AM (96M6e)

153 That is a great idea AllenG, but how would a move to the peoples
Republic of Austin be? Libs heads exploding, it would be like the 4th of
July everyday.


It'd be fun to watch, but I'm entirely motivated by self-interest here. One of the reasons I'm glad the Cowboys Stadium came to Arlington is that it slightly reduces the strangle-hold the GM plant has on the city council. Anything that further loosens that hold is good.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:21 AM (8y9MW)

154 The election of a Pope and the History of the rarity of a resignation are incredibly interesting. But as expected I see some libs hoping for a "progressive" type to take over while some catholics have been in general pricks about the whole thing. It's always interesting when I manage to piss off both sides.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at February 12, 2013 10:21 AM (yAor6)

155 Wow, Wow . and Wow. Ashley Madison states Washington D.C. is the least Faithful city in the US..
I am so-so shocked!!!!! Imagine that DC the least faithful...say's the Huff Ho...T hey cheat on lady Liberty constantly.

Posted by: Clemenza at February 12, 2013 10:21 AM (x59Gv)

156 On the Magpul sidebar item: I have no experience with their magazines,
BUT can attest that their cellphone case, which I got about 2 weeks ago,
just saved my ass. I knocked my iPhone from the kitchen counter onto a
tile floor, and it bounced. No harm done.


Their mags are quite ekshepshunal.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 10:22 AM (GQ8sn)

157 "Ted Nugent's on his way to DC to sit in the gallery for the SOTU."

I can't believe he made it in. I personally won;t be watching one second of that idiot.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at February 12, 2013 10:23 AM (yAor6)

158 Rural and under served communities are automatically covered under Carousel.

Sure. But rural areas have severe shortages of medical care already, and they're only going to get worse as SCOAMFCare shafts providers who see Medicare and Medicaid patients.

You can't pay back your med school loans working general/family practice in rural Iowa (retirees, anchor babies) the way you can working a specialty in Des Moines, so why bother?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 10:23 AM (/kI1Q)

159 The irony about the Scotland thing is that the English/Welsh want the Scots out more than the Scots do. Of course, the Scots think they'll keep the North Sea oil and that they'll continue to be a welfare state based on oil revenue.

My guess is that they won't get all of it.

The EU, however, is emboldening this kind of Balkinization and every little community now wants its own "independent" nation. The Scots want it because they think they can take their oil and become a welfare nation (if they even try, I think England/Wales/NI will just get out of the EU entirely). The Catalonians want it because of the opposite reason. They're actually a functioning economy being held down by the rest of Spain.

I predict we see a shooting war in Europe within the next 20 years if the EU doesn't collapse.

Then again, who in Europe has a proper military? Probably just endless crippling riots.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2013 10:24 AM (T0NGe)

160 I can't believe he made it in. I personally won;t be watching one second of that idiot.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at February 12, 2013 10:23 AM (yAor6)


I'm not going to watch, but I was debating writing my own mock take on the SoTU and seeing how closely what I write matches the bullshit that will spew from the Preezy's purple lips.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:24 AM (4df7R)

161 You can't pay back your med school loans working general/family practice
in rural Iowa (retirees, anchor babies) the way you can working a
specialty in Des Moines, so why bother?


I'm not sure how well it works (read: whether it's really worth the taxpayer money) but Texas has a program where the State will help you pay back your student loans if you practice in rural and under-served areas.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:25 AM (8y9MW)

162 @160 collectivism is the theme...

Posted by: Clemenza at February 12, 2013 10:25 AM (x59Gv)

163 "RIMMER: The time for talking is over. Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit (them) hard and hit (them) fast, with a major, and I mean major, leaflet campaign." 


Yes!!!

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2013 10:26 AM (wsGWu)

164 Then again, who in Europe has a proper military? Probably just endless crippling riots.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2013 10:24 AM (T0NGe)


The shooting war will be all internal; I don't think any of the European nations have sufficient military might to go to war with each other. Riots will go from mere riots to all out civil war, and in thirty or forty years we'll all be using new maps.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:26 AM (4df7R)

165 I'm having dinner with girlfriends tonight, and trust me, no one will be watching the SOTU. Every single one of us hate TFG.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 12, 2013 10:27 AM (UOM48)

166
That is "Hey, we realize that there's going to
have to be an official army- even if it's only a 'militia' which gets
called up as needed. Since that road leads to tyranny, we're making it
explicit that regular folks get to own guns, too."


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:16 AM (8y9MW)

I do not dispute that it's primary purpose is to counteract Federal Tyranny. (Look how well that worked out in 1861. -)
However, it uses the words "well-regulated." I interpret that as not being a blank check.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:27 AM (bb5+k)

167 I'm sure my brother will be watching, clapping his hands like a seal everytime his messiah speaks

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at February 12, 2013 10:27 AM (yAor6)

168 collectivism is the theme...

When is it not?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 10:27 AM (/kI1Q)

169 I'm not sure how well it works (read: whether it's really worth the taxpayer money) but Texas has a program where the State will help you pay back your student loans if you practice in rural and under-served areas.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:25 AM (8y9MW)


Most states have that; at least, states that HAVE rural areas. NH is more or less one big rural area.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:27 AM (4df7R)

170 159 Amish Dude,

I'm having a hard time understanding why we should have nation states if the cluster fucks we're seeing are the argument for them...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:28 AM (LRFds)

171 I can't watch the SOTU unless there is a live blog here. I wouldn't be able to keep it on without throwing the remote through the screen unless there is a moron snark accompaniment.

Posted by: no good deed at February 12, 2013 10:28 AM (mjR67)

172 EPIC: WaPo "blogger" (reporter? idiot?) falls for Pailin story at Daily Currant that she's joining Al-Jazeera.

http://tinyurl.com/bcm47md

Posted by: Tex's Assaultin' Batteries at February 12, 2013 10:17 AM (wtvvX)


They kept the story up even though the main hook has been discredited. Incredible. The media can't die fast enough.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2013 10:28 AM (T0NGe)

173 You can't pay back your med school loans working general/family practice
in rural Iowa (retirees, anchor babies) the way you can working a
specialty in Des Moines, so why bother?

I'm not sure how well it works (read: whether it's really worth the taxpayer money) but Texas has a program where the State will help you pay back your student loans if you practice in rural and under-served areas.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:25 AM (8y9MW

Ya know money really isn't everything. If I had to do it all over again I'd join the Navy right out of my Residency. The DRs I know on Active Duty in the Navy who are in for 20 or 20+ are much happier than the typical civilian Docs I know and they make decent money also after everything is considered. I would have been much happier. But being a young know it all I did NOT listen to LT. Col. Nevergiveup, my dad, growing up.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 10:29 AM (9Bj8R)

174 Guy is telling Beck that it's raining hard in TX, and the road is lined for miles with people waiting for Chris Kyle's procession for his burial. There were 10,000 people at his funeral yesterday.

RIP, Chris. What a man.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 12, 2013 10:29 AM (UOM48)

175 "NYT Calls On Menendez To Give Up His Leadership Post"

The pig needs to give up his office entirely, not just his leadership post.

Meanwhile, why doesn't the NYT just do us all a favor and close its doors?

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 12, 2013 10:29 AM (bKckD)

176 I made a promise to myself to not watch 1 O speech live in his 2nd term. Im so far doing alright with that.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at February 12, 2013 10:30 AM (yAor6)

177 I am pretty sure "regulated" in 18th century military terminology means something along the lines of "trained and organized."

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:17 AM (U3ERv)

I've seen that argument, and conclude that the context and usage of the terms should be verified contemporaneously with the period when the Amendment was written.

If this turns out to be the case, then it weakens the argument that there should be any restrictions.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:30 AM (bb5+k)

178 Riots will go from mere riots to all out civil war, and in thirty or forty years we'll all be using new maps.

We'll try to keep it simple for you.

Posted by: Yoots of Indeterminate Origin at February 12, 2013 10:30 AM (BrQrN)

179
"Sure. But rural areas have severe shortages of medical care already, and they're only going to get worse as SCOAMFCare shafts providers who see Medicare and Medicaid patients. "

"You can't pay back your med school loans working general/family practice in rural Iowa (retirees, anchor babies) the way you can working a specialty in Des Moines, so why bother?"

In TX rural docs get paid MORE not less. Because it's harder to get them to go rural. They get some pretty insane startup packages to lure them in. There are extreme shortages, although a lot of this is by design. Doctors act as a kind of lobby. They control practices in their area and can prevent new docs from moving into the area. Shortages are oftenintentional to keep rates higher. I don't know about other states but in TX the healthcare system is not what would be considered free market. It is tightly controlled by the state and ultimately by the white coat mafia. A hospital has zero control even though they are the ones bearing the burden of cost and profit. They cannot fire a bad doctor and they also cannot hire any new ones.

Posted by: Andrew at February 12, 2013 10:31 AM (HS3dy)

180 177 Diogenes Lamp,

then the Red States Need to organize 1 dollar a year volunteer militias and issue automatic weapons....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:31 AM (LRFds)

181 The IOC is a friggin' joke.

Wrap your head around Olympic golf.

Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2013 10:31 AM (WM+rJ)

182 However, it uses the words "well-regulated." I interpret that as not being a blank check.

Again, I would double-check that. I am pretty sure that "regulated" meant something different in 18th century military terminology than it does today.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:31 AM (U3ERv)

183 other then watching Phelps break the records, Ive basically ignored the Olympics throughout my lifetime. The only sports event I've ignored more is Nascar (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at February 12, 2013 10:32 AM (yAor6)

184 182 Grey Fox,

At best it meant that the states should control the gun laws.

The National Guard is NOT a State Militia.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:33 AM (LRFds)

185 However, it uses the words "well-regulated." I interpret that as not being a blank check.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:27 AM (bb5+k)


Once upon a time, however, the term "well regulated" was used in a military context to describe a well trained and disciplined fighting force. It didn't mean regulated in the sense of being restricted so much as regulated in terms of being disciplined.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:33 AM (4df7R)

186 "5 We was robbed!
Posted by: Y-not's collies "

Neither beagle made it to the group cut, much less best in show.
Clearly that judge whored himself out to the highest bidder.

Cause beagle's have the purdiest eyes of any dog.

Posted by: nerdygirl's beagle at February 12, 2013 10:33 AM (bKckD)

187 other then watching Phelps break the records, Ive basically ignored the Olympics throughout my lifetime. The only sports event I've ignored more is Nascar (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at February 12, 2013 10:32 AM (yAor6)

Especially the way they manipulate the TV coverage now a days so almost nothing is on live even when it would be

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 10:33 AM (9Bj8R)

188 The IOC is a friggin' joke. Wrap your head around Olympic golf.
Posted by: Fritz


THIS. IS.BIRDIE!

Posted by: Leonidas at February 12, 2013 10:34 AM (BrQrN)

189 "176 I made a promise to myself to not watch 1 O speech live in his 2nd term. Im so far doing alright with that.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron"

I don't listen to any of his speeches, listening to liars and bullshit artists is pointless.

Posted by: nerdygirl's beagle at February 12, 2013 10:35 AM (bKckD)

190 However, it uses the words "well-regulated." I interpret that as not being a blank check.

I don't. Most field artillery (the 18th and 19th century equivalent of our howitzers and tanks) were privately owned at the time. If machine guns had been available, I'm pretty sure that the original GW would have owned one, just because it was so bad-ass.

From the expanding documents (Federalist Papers, primarily) and the text of the Amendment itself, I read it as "Guns. Fuck yeah!"

Think about it this way, the three Natural Rights are Life, Liberty, and Property. Liberty and Property get a bunch of amendments talking about in what specific ways they can't be circumscribed- suggesting there are other ways they can be. The right to life (that is: self defense) get's one blanket amendment that says "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

The Constitution gives the federal government lots of leeway to take your stuff (with a warrant) or your liberty. The Constitution does not give the feds anywhere near that kind of leeway with your guns.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:35 AM (8y9MW)

191 Oxford English Dictionary, second definition of "regulated." http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/161423?redirectedFrom=regulated#eid

As you can see, the use of the term in this context is now obsolete, but in the 18th century it wasn't.

†2. Of troops, an army, etc.: properly organized; formally constituted into a professional body. Also fig. and in figurative contexts. Obs. Cf. regular adj.

7.1650 T. Fuller Pisgah-sight of Palestine iv. iii. 45 Fight they durst not, being a multitude of undisciplin'd people, of all ages and sexes, against a regulated army of their enemies.

1690 London Gaz. No. 2568/3, We hear likewise that the French are in a great Allarm in Dauphine and Bresse, not having at present 1500 Men of regulated Troops on that side.

1714 J. Pointer Chronol. Hist. Eng. II. 461 The Muscovite Army was above 100000 Men, and the Swedes but 20000 Regulated Troops.

1769 J. Brown Dict. Holy Bible II. 487/1 What regulated troops of vigilant, active, and courageous ministers, armed with the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

1816 J. Aikin Ann. Reign of George III II. 253 On November 15, the Janissaries, who had massacred the principal officers of the regulated troops, scaled the walls of the seraglio.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:35 AM (4df7R)

192 (CNSNews.com) - As part of a discussion with voters about Obamacare funding, Rep. Corrine Brown (D-Fla.) told one man, “Don’t confuse me with any facts.”

“This is part of the problem,” Brown told an audience member who had asked about the billions of dollars cut from Medicare under the Affordable Health Care Act.

Posted by: Pres**ent Barack “Unexpectedly Humble” Obama at February 12, 2013 10:35 AM (e8kgV)

193 I'm having a hard time understanding why we should have nation states if the cluster fucks we're seeing are the argument for them...

It's what many of them want: The illusion of sovereignty under an unaccountable bureaucracy run by the elite.

By "them" I mean both the elite and the middle class pretensia. In the post-Christian world, they feel a sort of moral superiority about being a citizen of a nation ruled by enlightened despots.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2013 10:36 AM (T0NGe)

194
177 Diogenes Lamp,

then the Red States Need to organize 1 dollar a year volunteer militias and issue automatic weapons....


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:31 AM (LRFds)

I have no problems with people owning automatic weapons, but I also have no problems with some sort of regulation regarding who can purchase them.
Concealed carry license holders are an example of to what I am referring.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:38 AM (bb5+k)

195 And that rebuttal (not so much a "take down" after I reread and re-reread the original article) to that "Reflections On Gun Control From A Second Amendment Advocate" piece is up at that blog I don't have.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:38 AM (8y9MW)

196 then the Red States Need to organize 1 dollar a year volunteer militias and issue automatic weapons....


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:31 AM (LRFds)
---Most states already have militias.

Posted by: RioBravo at February 12, 2013 10:38 AM (eEfYn)

197 Then again, who in Europe has a proper military? Probably just endless crippling riots.

Victory will go to whoever manages to militarize enough to field something resembling a proper army. Which gives the inside track to Germany, which (in a profound historical irony) is one of the more unified nations in Europe at the moment...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 12, 2013 10:38 AM (GBXon)

198
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained
so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in
proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated
correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the
people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd
amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the
founders wrote it.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 12, 2013 10:39 AM (R8hU8)

199 Day After North Korea’s Surprise Nuclear Bomb Test, Obama To Call For Massive Reduction Of U.S. Nuclear Arsenal…

Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 10:39 AM (9Bj8R)

200 Concealed carry license holders are an example of to what I am referring.

So you're okay with the fact you have to get your government's permission to defend yourself? Because that's what a "license" means.

Oh, sure, in many (if not most) states, that's "shall issue," but all it takes is one law to change that to "may issue."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:39 AM (8y9MW)

201 Isn't this sweet. Kos Kiddies say the Pope had to resign over dead hookers and illegitimate kids:

http://tinyurl.com/btq6naz

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 12, 2013 10:39 AM (UOM48)

202 One thing that might be interesting to those of you who might someday have blogs and write about 2nd amendment issues is to compare and contrast the text of the 2nd versus the "Protestants shall be allowed arms" provision in the 1689 Bill of Rights. Same general idea - allow the people to own arms for their protection (and the circumstances of the 1689 Bill indicate that included protection from the monarch, I think), but the 2nd is much more absolute.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:39 AM (U3ERv)

203 193 Amish Dude,

I'm liable to go Scottish myself here if bambi keeps it up despite being of English extraction from the Welsh border by ancestry.

How in the hell do you screw up the US economy so badly you can't pay the bills, and in screwing it up why keep it?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:39 AM (LRFds)

204 If this turns out to be the case, then it weakens the argument that there should be any restrictions.

There shouldn't be anyway.

The "militia" part of the second is immaterial if you simply...diagram the sentence.

It's a clause giving the justification for the rest, but it holds no legal power. The second wouldn't change if it read:

"A brown tree squirrel, being necessary to the aesthetic pleasure of a forest, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's not like these lawyers and politicians were taking math. They were English or polisci majors. There isn't some deep mathematical code to be cracked, it's grammar.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2013 10:40 AM (T0NGe)

205 Once upon a time, however, the term "well regulated"
was used in a military context to describe a well trained and
disciplined fighting force. It didn't mean regulated in the sense of
being restricted so much as regulated in terms of being disciplined.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:33 AM (4df7R)

-----
Yup. When your typical lib gun grabber goes down the "militia" angle of the 2nd amendment.... calmly ask why they support all those old white guys running around the woods in cammies.
Silence or calamity ensues.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2013 10:40 AM (nELVU)

206 194 Dioegenes Lamp,

People already own automatic weapons unless their state precludes it...it's a NAF Tax of ~200 bucks.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:40 AM (LRFds)

207 I'm now wearing purple pants, a green shirt and a yellow sweatshirt.

Let's party!

Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 12, 2013 10:40 AM (SUKHu)

208 Sven runs like a Welshman!

Haha! He runs like a Welshman!

Posted by: Truman North at February 12, 2013 10:41 AM (I84O1)

209 196 Rio Bravo,

eh "sorta" I'd much prefer the State Governors to start their own military spending under the auspices of "State Militias" and not the National Guard either.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:41 AM (LRFds)

210 >>Neither beagle made it to the group cut, much less best in show.
>>Clearly that judge whored himself out to the highest bidder.

Mohammed would not approve. He should save himself for goats.

>>Cause beagle's have the purdiest eyes of any dog.

What did you think of the new breed that looked a lot like a beagle/foxhound? I thought it was pretty.

Posted by: Y-not at February 12, 2013 10:42 AM (5H6zj)

211
Once upon a time, however, the term "well
regulated" was used in a military context to describe a well trained and
disciplined fighting force. It didn't mean regulated in the sense of
being restricted so much as regulated in terms of being disciplined.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:33 AM (4df7R)


And I am not adverse to that interpretation, it is however, something about which we should be certain.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:42 AM (bb5+k)

212 eh "sorta" I'd much prefer the State Governors to start their own
military spending under the auspices of "State Militias" and not the
National Guard either.


Again, can't speak for other states, but Texas does. The Texas Guard (not Texas National Guard- the "Texas Guard") are a Texas Militia which answers directly (and only) to the Governor's office. They are not part of the US Military in any respect.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:43 AM (8y9MW)

213 208 Truman North,

I use ranged weapons like one as well...

*fwip*

heh

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:43 AM (LRFds)

214 I'm listening to the former FBI agent who says Brennan is a muzzie.

Yikes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 12, 2013 10:43 AM (UOM48)

215 eh "sorta" I'd much prefer the State Governors to
start their own military spending under the auspices of "State Militias"
and not the National Guard either.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:41 AM (LRFds)
---But they already do that.

Posted by: RioBravo at February 12, 2013 10:43 AM (eEfYn)

216 OW MY BALLS!

Posted by: Truman North at February 12, 2013 10:44 AM (I84O1)

217 212 Allen G,

I'm aware of the Texas model, I'd prefer Texas get more overt and use that surplus to buy some ground to air drone killing capability for the state.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:44 AM (LRFds)

218
And I am not adverse to that interpretation, it is however, something about which we should be certain.


And people have presented plenty of evidence- including a deprecated definition from c. the 18th century- to "be certain."

So now, as someone arguing (or at least entertaining) the opposite view, it's up to you to present evidence for your side (that to the 18th century authors of the Constitution, "well regulated" meant "lots of laws"), so we can then evaluate all the evidence and draw a reasonable conclusion.

So what evidence do you have?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:45 AM (8y9MW)

219 215 Rio Bravo,

eh "some"...

I've discussed at length what I think should happen and with which states.

No need to go over it again.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:45 AM (LRFds)

220 I'm aware of the Texas model, I'd prefer Texas get more overt and use
that surplus to buy some ground to air drone killing capability for the
state.


Yeah, but what would that be? AA pieces? Stinger missiles?

I wouldn't think you'd need anything so extreme for most drones.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:46 AM (8y9MW)

221
The Constitution gives the federal government
lots of leeway to take your stuff (with a warrant) or your liberty. The
Constitution does not give the feds anywhere near that kind of leeway
with your guns.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:35 AM (8y9MW)

I agree, but the States which regulate the usage of Chemicals, Drugs and Explosives ought to have some sort of oversight on the creation and usage of destructive devices.
Building a blockbuster bomb is okay provided it is unlikely to be misused. I think it is insane to give crazy people carte blanche for creating devices which can be used for mass killings. To make our utilize such a device ought to fall under some sort of regulatory purview.

Pragmatism has to enter into this conversation at some point.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 10:46 AM (bb5+k)

222 For basic information on state guard units. - search for Wikipedia and "state guard units' or 'state defense force'

Posted by: RioBravo at February 12, 2013 10:46 AM (eEfYn)

223 the State will help you pay back your student loans if you practice in rural and under-served areas.

And then after five years, you quit...if the hospital you're attached to stays in business that long.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 10:47 AM (/kI1Q)

224 This thing where Texans insist you're wrong and there are no problems in Iowa or South Dakota or Nebraska because Texas does things a different way is getting old.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 10:49 AM (/kI1Q)

225 220 Allen G,

I think SP AA platforms with twin Bofors 40mm L70s or the equivalent would be fine....

the nice thing is you can use them for multi purpose as well....

of course I support the state militia having ATGM capability as well....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:50 AM (LRFds)

226 I agree, but the States which regulate the usage of Chemicals, Drugs
and Explosives ought to have some sort of oversight on the creation and
usage of destructive devices.
Building a blockbuster bomb is okay
provided it is unlikely to be misused. I think it is insane to give
crazy people carte blanche for creating devices which can be used for
mass killings. To make our utilize such a device ought to fall under
some sort of regulatory purview.


But "crazy people" (really: bad guys) already have carte blanche for creating those devices. It's called "ignoring the law." Anyone planning on using a bomb for mass killings is not going to be terribly concerned that he bomb itself is illegal.

"Oh, that bomb is illegal. I guess I won't be detonating it and killing a bunch of innocents" said no mass-murderer anywhere ever.

The only people who are prevented from "creating devices which can be used for mass killings" are law-abiding citizens who might, one day, find they need those devices for an armed insurrection against their tyrannical government.

Period.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:50 AM (8y9MW)

227 224 Ms Radish,

Look for it to get worse not better.

That's a matter of perspective though, I get my spread on the Sabine it'll be "better" not worse.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:51 AM (LRFds)

228 Bauerle is awesome. He'd fit in perfectly here, and make a great Moron.

18
Listening to our "local Limbaugh" Tom Bauerle, broadcasting live from the anti-Cuomo Gun Grab rally in Albany.



I so wish I was there.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2013 09:24 AM (7ObY1)

Posted by: Pyrocles at February 12, 2013 10:51 AM (cv5Iw)

229 And then after five years, you quit...if the hospital you're attached to stays in business that long.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 12, 2013 10:47 AM (/kI1Q)


Yep.
The thing with rural and underserved areas is they tend to be rural and underserved for a reason. You serve out your five years in NH, then move to Boston. Work's well and good, but you're not going to get the kind of business or nightlife in NH like you'd get in metro Boston.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:51 AM (4df7R)

230 CUNY officials are investigating ejection of Jewish students from anti-Israel forum at Brooklyn College


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/short-article-1.1261477#ixzz2KhUzCZdG

Not only do they hold a despicable forum like this but they kick out anyone who does not agree with them and bar the media? And this is what "Liberalism" has come to?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 10:52 AM (9Bj8R)

231
To make our utilize such a device ought to fall under some sort of regulatory purview.

-----------

It always strikes me as odd that the "creating devices which can be used for mass killings" always gets elevated in significance over the mass killings themselves.



Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2013 10:52 AM (nELVU)

232 Here is von Steuben's manual of arms that uses the term "regulations" to mean military drill, page 4: http://tinyurl.com/b3zlcm4

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:52 AM (U3ERv)

233 of course I support the state militia having ATGM capability as well....

Okay, you lost me with most of those acronyms, but I think we're on the same page. I think the Texas Militia should have access to (and possession of) the same equipment the USMIL has. Across. The. Board.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 10:52 AM (8y9MW)

234 of course I support the state militia having ATGM capability as well....

Okay,
you lost me with most of those acronyms, but I think we're on the same
page. I think the Texas Militia should have access to (and possession
of) the same equipment the USMIL has. Across. The. Board.


Anti-tank guided missile.

Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)

235 Note that the forward on page 4 in von Steuben is written by John Jay, one of the guys that wrote the Federalist Papers, IIRC.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:54 AM (U3ERv)

236 Here is von Steuben's manual of arms that uses the term "regulations" to mean military drill, page 4: http://tinyurl.com/b3zlcm4
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 10:52 AM (U3ERv)


Yep.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 10:56 AM (4df7R)

237 233 Allen G,

Anti tank Guided Missiles

I would not support their being in homes, I would support them being in Sherrif's armories.

I'm odd that way, essentially I think the states should have the capability to hold their own against the Feds if need be.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:56 AM (LRFds)

238 Brennan, a super secret Muslim? Hah!

Brennan will only be accepted as a convert to Islam when his head has been separated at the neck.

Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2013 10:58 AM (WM+rJ)

239 231 fixerupper,

Yup, it's pretty funny my mom's 3d husband had a flamethrower....

Ted Kennedy's car killed more than his M2a1 flamethrower.....

He used it for clearing fields for construction and coordinated with the fire department when used....

hell the fire department played with it as much as he did....

"ooooohhhhh scary...."

Yeah a lot of drive by flamethrowings going on....people are pu**ies...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 10:59 AM (LRFds)

240 At this point, I'm not sure why I would oppose ATGM in the home. Are they a big problem. Could most people even afford them.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 11:03 AM (gmeXX)

241 Okay... where'd everybody go?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 11:03 AM (8y9MW)

242 Brennan is only one among many Muslims in the upper reaches of the administration.I personally know some Muslims in jobs that would shock hte hell out of you.So what?

Brennan is not the problem. It's Reid, Pelosi and Congress. It's domestic spending on entitlements. Brennan will spend whatever money he's given fighting the terrorists, so he is nowhere near a serious issue.

Posted by: President For Life Obama at February 12, 2013 11:03 AM (B5y+v)

243 So in 2009, the Santa Ana Unified School District borrowed $35 million using an inventive if increasingly controversial method known as capital appreciation bonds, which pushed the cost of the construction on to future taxpayers. Not a cent is owed until 2026. But taxpayers will eventually have to pay $340 million to retire that $35 million debt.

Posted by: Gordon Gekko at February 12, 2013 11:04 AM (e8kgV)

244 Interestingly,

the worry about these other devices is the same worry the liberals have over guns. Will they fall into the hands of deranged people?

We don't see these killers using AR15s .. assuming that these other weapons were priced accordingly, it seems likely that they are doing a calculation that a normal handgun is their best "destroying crap now to price ratio" .. perhaps?

I mean, since the weathermen and others were bombing in the 60s, have our laws changed that much, or is it just that we haven't had people that were determined in that style? I was under the impression that it was the later, and not that we have somehow made it impossible for people to get matter to make bombs.

Posted by: dantealiegri at February 12, 2013 11:04 AM (HXWlL)

245 Not only do they hold a despicable forum like this but they kick out anyone who does not agree with them and bar the media? And this is what "Liberalism" has come to?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 10:52 AM (9Bj8R)


I also suspect that the CUNY investigation will turn up precisely nothing, because they don't actually care if there was wrongdoing. It's purely kabuki.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 11:04 AM (4df7R)

246 If the shit hits the fan, I don't want anyone on that Carnival cruise around me.


WE'RE GONNA DIE!!!! NO A/C!!!

Posted by: RWC at February 12, 2013 11:04 AM (fWAjv)

247 http://youtu.be/z_3QeW9hgpE

Fun with napalm....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:05 AM (LRFds)

248 Well, I've enjoyed reading the 2nd Amendment discussion. I kinda started it with this and I'll throw it back in there...the 2nd Amendment neither quantifies not qualifies "arms." It's a simple declarative statement. "Shall not be infringed." There is no "except for", "but for" or "in the case of" in there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 11:05 AM (M4gDn)

249 The Iron Sheik
‏@the_ironsheik




I wake up i get phone call from my agents @pagemagen he tell me no more wrestling in the Olympics it break my heart forever

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 12, 2013 11:05 AM (k++pf)

250 I wake up i get phone call from my agents @pagemagen he tell me no more wrestling in the Olympics it break my heart forever
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 12, 2013 11:05 AM (k++pf)


I believe it, too.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 11:06 AM (4df7R)

251 BC:

Right, and it always falls back to "the framers really didn't know what they were saying".

Posted by: dantealiegri at February 12, 2013 11:06 AM (HXWlL)

252 http://youtu.be/FiAeYl1Qfi4

Here's the M2 being used for fun....

I was way too small to get to play with it....I was maybe 9 or 10....fun with gas though...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:07 AM (LRFds)

253 I mean, since the weathermen and others were bombing in the 60s, have
our laws changed that much, or is it just that we haven't had people
that were determined in that style? I was under the impression that it
was the later, and not that we have somehow made it impossible for
people to get matter to make bombs.


No, the laws haven't changed that much. It's just as easy as ever to get the stuff you need (including instructions) to make a fairly significant bomb. You're not going to be making any 5000lb bombs in your kitchen sink, but you can make somethings that make a nasty boom.

And, if I'm trying to kill people, instead of destroying property, I don't even need anything that makes that nasty a boom. PVC pipe, pipe caps, nails, and gunpowder are all easy to acquire, after all.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 11:08 AM (8y9MW)

254 Also, wrestling is not out of Olympics yet, it now has to compete for the open slot.

Hand to hand combat is wrestling's strong suit though!

Posted by: dantealiegri at February 12, 2013 11:08 AM (HXWlL)

255
I went on a cruise on the TRIUMPH in March 2001.

Very nice ship at the time. Effin huuuge.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:08 AM (eHNxr)

256 OK, so now I'm doing a slow burn on the Drudge article (WSJ) about Obamaphone abuse. Turns out Virgin Mobile, owned by Sir Richard Branson, is the biggest culprit. So, the "profits" at least went partly overseas, eh?

Posted by: jakeman, Assault V2.0 at February 12, 2013 11:08 AM (96M6e)

257
oh, and mornin' homos

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:08 AM (vuIm8)

258 Right, and it always falls back to "the framers really didn't know what they were saying".

Yep. Those guys (I'm pretty sure a couple of them actually cast cannon, too) had no clue that guns could be used to kill people. And that as gun technology advanced, they'd be able to kill more people quicker.

Right.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 11:10 AM (8y9MW)

259 Yep. Those guys (I'm pretty sure a couple of them actually cast cannon, too) had no clue that guns could be used to kill people. And that as gun technology advanced, they'd be able to kill more people quicker.

Exactly. It's not as if anyone had ever invented a faster, more effective and efficient way to lob ordinance in the years prior to the Revolution. There are actually cave paintings of neolithic man shooting mammoth's with muskets.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 11:15 AM (4df7R)

260

Question of the Day:

Let's say I'm gonna buy a ticket for as far as I can. I ain't never coming back.

What direction am I going?

And how far am I willing to go?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:15 AM (vuIm8)

261 258 Allen G,

Quite...the founders were not in fact technophiles on arms....Jefferson did not keep buying guns, along with Madison, Monroe, and Adams...

The ferguson rifle negates their argument....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_rifle

The Founders grasped technology would keep marching on...if the neo-luddites want to ban guns pass an amendment.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:16 AM (LRFds)

262

hint: I am leaving because of what a woman done to me (can't you see?).

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:17 AM (uff2W)

263 The American Follow Up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1819_Hall_rifle

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:18 AM (LRFds)

264

When I think "well-regulated militia", I start thinking longbows (shut up). And the old English REQUIREMENT for each household to provide a trained and practiced longbowman (along with the bow and x number of arrows) in time of war.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 12, 2013 11:18 AM (TIIx5)

265 On the Navy Seal who is sitting home broke and may or may not have free healthcare. This list of problems made public under SCoaMF makes him automatically not liked by the left, if being in the military wasn't enough reason. But lets see here - he's a Navy Seal, so I'm sure he'll be aight.

Posted by: Whatev at February 12, 2013 11:19 AM (A7Wh1)

266 Sven, why pass an amendment when you can simply go to the Court. Tried and true, and much easier. Pass enough laws, the Court will allow some of them to stick. It allows the Court to create tests and such.

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 11:19 AM (gmeXX)

267 Andrea Tantaros suggests that the word for rapid liver enlargement in any drinking games based on the SOTU will be "investment".

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 12, 2013 11:19 AM (k++pf)

268 The only possible restriction I see in the 2nd amendment is the term "arms," which could be taken to mean personal rather than crew-served weapons. I have seen that argument before, but am unsure of the validity.
I note that either way things like big knives, swords, hatchets/tomahawks, and polearms are also included in the 2nd amendment. I don't see people making a big deal out of restrictions on those things, though. Perhaps it is time we did?

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 11:20 AM (U3ERv)

269 Chrissy Matthews on Dick Cheney: "How do you learn to be that evil?"

And this:

We can't compare anybody to Dick Cheney. By the way, that snarl that he
has when he talks with that evil manner of his and it's this sort of
avuncular, as I said, when he snarls, that thing, it's hardly Elvis
Presley snarling either. It's a whole new kind of snarling. When he does
that, I got to say, this is just -- thank God a troll occasionally
looks like a troll and you can actually--- look at that way he walks.



From Newsbusters.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 12, 2013 11:21 AM (UOM48)

270
I'll bet my leftnut someone here has seen Marshall Tucker live.

I myself have not.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:21 AM (0w+w3)

271 Yay!

I'm a big boy now!

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at February 12, 2013 11:22 AM (Vk2pI)

272 Someone at MSNBC needs to talk to Chrissy about rehab. Its time

Posted by: thunderb at February 12, 2013 11:23 AM (Dnbau)

273 Re: IOC drops wrestling... faggots.
Meanwhile, in a related development, TMZ reports Apolo Ohno will gauge his earlobes! (Insiders talk of pierced nasal septum next....)

Posted by: Thorvald at February 12, 2013 11:23 AM (1V6Pv)

274 270
I'll bet my leftnut someone here has seen Marshall Tucker live.

I myself have not.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:21 AM (0w+w3)


You're safe.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 12, 2013 11:23 AM (Qxe/p)

275 266 SH,

why tolerate the court?

Yes, I am approaching that point. We are either a Constitutional Republic or we aren't and if we aren't we need a better system than "whatever the fuck democrats want." I am starting to hate in ever intonation of the word the left.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:24 AM (LRFds)

276
That was my next question.



IS IT SAFE?

Posted by: soothsayer in the Marathon Man at February 12, 2013 11:26 AM (wAng0)

277 Regarding John Brennan and all the other Obamanites who consistently run Muzzie (despite the odds), can you say "taqiyya"? I think you can.
"Of course, I'm not a Muslim!"
I humbly submit we should water-board him before we confirm him, just to be sure.

Posted by: Thorvald at February 12, 2013 11:26 AM (1V6Pv)

278 Took my 16-yer old grandson to the doctor today. Exactly when did medical forms start asking about reading proficiency, possible learning disabilities, and preferred methods of learning?

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 12, 2013 11:27 AM (GoIUi)

279 >>>I'll bet my leftnut someone here has seen Marshall Tucker live.


yep. small venue, great show.

Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2013 11:28 AM (WM+rJ)

280 When I think "well-regulated militia", I start thinking longbows (shut up). And the old English REQUIREMENT for each household to provide a trained and practiced longbowman (along with the bow and x number of arrows) in time of war.

The 2nd Amendment was written in the context a long-standingtradition of militia bands, as well as a history of limited monarchy imposed by rebellion, civil war, and armies built upon those militia bands to resist royal encroachment. As a mater of fact, the American Revolution was the third time this had been done in less than 150 years - the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution being the two prior instances.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 11:28 AM (U3ERv)

281
What weapons one may have or want is easily decided by their practicality in respect to the individual.

This is self regulating, and unworthy of any apprehension.

Also not worth arguing about.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 12, 2013 11:28 AM (SAMxH)

282 I like it when my doctor asks me if I'm wearing my seat belt. Who gives a crap?

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 11:28 AM (gmeXX)

283 Chrissy Matthews on Dick Cheney: "How do you learn to be that evil?"

If Pissy Matthews thinks you're evil, it's a safe bet you're doing something right. Anything that scares the shit out of that doughy waste of breath is a-okay in my book.

They really shouldn't let individuals with terminal brain cancer host political talk shows. It's just embarrassing when they start brain farting on everything. And I can only believe that Pissy's nonsensical jabbering is the result of terminal brain cancer, advanced alcohol poisoning, or (most likely) a combination of both. No one with a functioning brain is THAT stupid.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 11:29 AM (4df7R)

284

Answers:

I'm going south-bound.
All the way until the train runs out of track.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:29 AM (uff2W)

285 Removing wrestling from the Olimpicks is a dumb
move. Wrestling was one of the original games from ancient Greece. How
the hell do you remove a classic like that?


Posted by: EC at February 12, 2013 09:56 AM (GQ8sn)


Well, it was taking time away from marquee sports like rhythmic gymnastics.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 12, 2013 11:31 AM (673KB)

286
Charlie Daniels vs Marshall Tucker?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:31 AM (eHNxr)

287 that Navy Seal story is a plant. How did he get permission to talk? Why now? Because it serves several of the administration purposes:

1. Seal praises the JEF has really "thinking about his guys" and actually, ya know, caring

2. Seal without heath care (which he has BTW) supports the ultimate goal of single payer

3. Sealdoesn't get a retirement after 16 years, we should do anything we can to avoid sequestration

The story does not address that this Seal has health care, that tricare is going away because of Obamacare, that the JEF wants to cut all military expenses including pay and benefits, and that the JEF truly does not care about operators as shown in Benghazi.

Sports radio where I live was stupidly spouting all about this all morning. This is a political story, planted by the administration, written by a reliable prog

Posted by: thunderb at February 12, 2013 11:31 AM (Dnbau)

288 Took my 16-yer old grandson to the doctor today. Exactly when did medical forms start asking about reading proficiency, possible learning disabilities, and preferred methods of learning?

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 12, 2013 11:27 AM (GoIUi)



I like it when my doctor asks me if I'm wearing my seat belt. Who gives a crap?

Posted by: SH at February 12, 2013 11:28 AM (gmeXX)



Where do you think the gubmint gets all its numbers to spout out figures about risky behaviors and risk factors for X, Y, and Z malady?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 11:31 AM (4df7R)

289 I note that either way things like big knives,
swords, hatchets/tomahawks, and polearms are also included in the 2nd
amendment. I don't see people making a big deal out of restrictions on
those things, though. Perhaps it is time we did?

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 11:20 AM (U3ERv)



One word: Bayonet Lugs

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 12, 2013 11:32 AM (TIIx5)

290 Took my 16-yer old grandson to the doctor today. Exactly when did medical forms start asking about reading proficiency, possible learning disabilities, and preferred methods of learning?
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 12, 2013 11:27 AM (GoIUi)



There is at least an arguable justification for that since that information would be relevant for the health care provider to know how to best to provide information to a patient.


It's also a backdoor way of finding out if the patient can read, speak or comprehend English.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 12, 2013 11:33 AM (VtjlW)

291 I would pay really, really good money to see Piss Matthews say that to Cheney's face.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 11:33 AM (da5Wo)

292
the insurance companies collect the data so that their actuaries can caculate risk/premiums, I'd reckon

Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:35 AM (QVBzT)

293 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 12, 2013 11:33 AM (VtjlW)


Terrible and Beautiful Queen! Is good to see you. I left you a warning at the top of the thread. Heed it.




Btw, how you doing? I know the other day sucked. Feeling better?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 11:35 AM (da5Wo)

294 and preferred methods of learning?
Posted by: Miss Marple at February 12, 2013 11:27 AM (GoIUi)


Actually that is on EVERY Navy Medical and Dental Form.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 12, 2013 11:36 AM (9Bj8R)

295 Department of No Doubt Department/2A Division:
"well regulated" = "target practice"
"shall not be infringed" = "shall not be infringed"

Posted by: No Doubt Whatsoever at February 12, 2013 11:36 AM (1V6Pv)

296
No, the laws haven't changed that much. It's just as easy as ever to get the stuff you need (including instructions) to make a fairly significant bomb. You're not going to be making any 5000lb bombs in your kitchen sink, but you can make somethings that make a nasty boom.

Actually, if you look at the 1960's era Army FM for improvised explosives you'll see lots of stuff that used to be available at places like hardware, drug and paint stores that isn't available today. Especially after the advent of the internet and the attendant fuss about bomb making information online, the authorities have cracked down on lots of seemingly innocuous stuff that could be used to make a bomb. Unless you want to get really involved procuring some hard to get materials and in some risky manufacturing, the typical mad bomber is pretty much limited to a black powder pipe bomb nowadays.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 11:37 AM (tOkJB)

297 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 12, 2013 11:31 AM (4df7R)

I once showed up to a doctor's appointment the morning after getting my MCAT score results. Needless to say I celebrated.


The doctor looks at me and goes "you checked: drinks occasionally, smokes rarely, somehow I think this is wrong."

I told him I don't often go crazy on cigars and imperial pints, but last night was unusual. Surprisingly my liver function test came back normal.

His response: "Sigh, you're only 24 once, I'd recommend not doing that again."

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 12, 2013 11:37 AM (V8c8n)

298 Cheney is so evil he takes candy away from babies.

And gives it to diabetic babies.

That will never get old.

Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2013 11:38 AM (m2CN7)

299 A long time ago, someone somewhere, used to make Chris Matthews wear a dress, and put curlers in his hair.

Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2013 11:39 AM (WM+rJ)

300 296 Ed Anger,

No they're not....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:39 AM (LRFds)

301 Ed Anger,

you just have to understand physics, ignition points, and material safety data sheets.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:41 AM (LRFds)

302 >>>The Pope has a pacemaker

Habemus Papem Passus Plasmator

/puff of smoke

Posted by: Bigby's Twitchy Hands at February 12, 2013 11:41 AM (3ZtZW)

303 Actually, if you look at the 1960's era Army FM for
improvised explosives you'll see lots of stuff that used to be available
at places like hardware, drug and paint stores that isn't available
today. Especially after the advent of the internet and the attendant
fuss about bomb making information online, the authorities have cracked
down on lots of seemingly innocuous stuff that could be used to
make a bomb. Unless you want to get really involved procuring some hard
to get materials and in some risky manufacturing, the typical mad bomber
is pretty much limited to a black powder pipe bomb nowadays.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 11:37 AM (tOkJB)


Oh really?

Posted by: Timothy McVeigh at February 12, 2013 11:41 AM (da5Wo)

304 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 12, 2013 09:22 AM (bb5+k)

Part 1 came about when somehow the Courts and Beurocrats decided that Dual Citizenship was OK and legal...

IMO, it started the trainwreck of mixed loyalty we now see hitting the level where it becomes able to change National Policy....

Posted by: Romeo13...... at February 12, 2013 11:42 AM (lZBBB)

305 DrewM Movie Review is up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 12, 2013 11:43 AM (8y9MW)

306 303 Timothy McVeigh,

quite....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:43 AM (LRFds)

307 I'm going south-bound.
All the way until the train runs out of track.
Posted by: soothsayer at February 12, 2013 11:29 AM (uff2W)

Great song!

Posted by: Mainah at February 12, 2013 11:44 AM (659DL)

308 Re explosives: My father is a chemistry teacher and was telling me the other day about how hyper the insurance people get about storing certain chemicals, like ammonium sulphate (I think) that you can purchase in 20lbs bags at the local garden store. He says that he doesn't mention the uranium....

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 11:45 AM (U3ERv)

309 Terrible and Beautiful Queen! Is good to see you. I left you a warning at the top of the thread. Heed it.

Btw, how you doing? I know the other day sucked. Feeling better?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 11:35 AM (da5Wo)



I did see it, thank you very much.


I am doing. Things and stuff are going on and my dad is doing somewhat better though now he's hallucinating intermittently so we're trying to figure out if it's issues with his lithium, issues with the antibiotic or some weird drug interaction. Boy BFF got very bad news last night and I am trying to be sympathetic but he's now attempting to haul me into it and all the no.

whinewhinebitchmoan


Are you feeling better?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 12, 2013 11:46 AM (VtjlW)

310 Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 11:20 AM (U3ERv)


I would point out that at the time of the Founders, it was NORMAL to have a Cannon, in the Town Squar.... a WORKING one...

Posted by: Romeo13...... at February 12, 2013 11:47 AM (lZBBB)

311 310 Romeo 13,

or a fully equipped merchant ship that was more accurately called a blockade runner....

armed with the best cannon the master could afford...

yeah let's go back to a 'strict reading of the founder's intent' Congress....I'm game

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:48 AM (LRFds)

312 Regarding Iranian internal politics, here's the English propaganda feed from the "shadow-of-allah":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9emfym

Posted by: Thorvald at February 12, 2013 11:51 AM (1V6Pv)

313 I am doing. Things and stuff are going on and my
dad is doing somewhat better though now he's hallucinating
intermittently so we're trying to figure out if it's issues with his
lithium, issues with the antibiotic or some weird drug interaction. Boy
BFF got very bad news last night and I am trying to be sympathetic but
he's now attempting to haul me into it and all the no.



whinewhinebitchmoan





Are you feeling better?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 12, 2013 11:46 AM (VtjlW)


What antibiotic???? My dad was recently on a new antibiotic when he had bronchitis. It caused fairly severe auditory and visual hallucinations.
Avoid drama if at all possible. But you know that.
Feeling better, sorta. The strep throat symptoms went away after like two days of meds. Then it felt like a really bad head cold. That's slowly going away. But, of course, the antibiotics are making me feel really sick. Good thing I've only got 4 more days of it! /sarc
Thanks for asking.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 12, 2013 11:52 AM (da5Wo)

314 255 I went on a cruise on the TRIUMPH in March 2001. Very nice ship at the time.

--------

Although apparently, like the small British cars of the same name, with Lucas electrics.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at February 12, 2013 11:52 AM (IrbU4)

315 Grey Fox : Probably Ammonium nitrate. It was used in the OKC bombing.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at February 12, 2013 11:53 AM (G1aEt)

316
300 296 Ed Anger,

No they're not....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 11:39 AM (LRFds)


Yes they are. Try getting lead oxide from a paint store for the manufacture of the azide. Or powdered aluminum (its sale and shipping is now controlled).

Those are just a couple of the items not available anymore.

I know making homemade gunpowder is a usually kid experiment, but you can't get saltpeter at the drug store anymore. Mercury is almost unobtainable.

There's lots of stuff called for in the Field Manual that you simply can't easily get today. I know because I have a copy of it.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 11:56 AM (tOkJB)

317 or a fully equipped merchant ship that was more accurately called a blockade runner....

I look forward to the day I am allowed to mount a Ma Deuce on my car.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 12, 2013 11:56 AM (GBXon)

318
After 10 days of antibiotic treatment for strep throat I finally realized the crappy feeling I was still dealing with was actually the side effects of the Augmentin instead of the strep itself. Instead of just an extremely sore throat I got a mildly sore throat and horrible GI problems.
Modern medicine.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at February 12, 2013 11:56 AM (G1aEt)

319 I hope all you fine people don't run off to the movie thread.

My take on "well regulated" - well equipped and well trained.

Posted by: teej at February 12, 2013 11:57 AM (Vzh0K)

320 The phrase about regulated millitia doesn't even matter, it clearly says THE PEOPLE have the right to keep and bear arms. Not The millitia, the government, the army, the local garrison, the hunting club or anything else. It says The PEOPLE, as in the same The PEOPLE found in the first sentence of the Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 12, 2013 11:59 AM (UU0OF)

321 Wrap your head around Olympic golf.

Olympic golf exists so they can give Barky a gold medal.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2013 12:00 PM (B/VB5)

322 316 Ed Anger,

While what you post is true, it is also just as true that there are still plenty of fun recreational pyrotechnics you can make not in the FM....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 12:02 PM (LRFds)

323 317 Cavil,

There's at least as much...no scratch that there is MORE justification as that being a proper exercise in our system than Ogabecare.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 12:03 PM (LRFds)

324 True, but it's also good to be able to argue every point the freedom haters bring up.
Like be able to tell them who is included in the word militia and why.

Posted by: teej at February 12, 2013 12:04 PM (Vzh0K)

325 So, the Norks set off a nuke. How long before The Won says that South Korea acted stupidly? How long before he praises the Norks for giving the bomb to Iran? How long before the gubbermint declares all citizens of the U.S. Muslim?

Posted by: shibumi at February 12, 2013 12:09 PM (z63Tr)

326
308 Re explosives: My father is a chemistry teacher and was telling me the other day about how hyper the insurance people get about storing certain chemicals, like ammonium sulphate (I think) that you can purchase in 20lbs bags at the local garden store. He says that he doesn't mention the uranium....

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 12, 2013 11:45 AM (U3ERv)


He's undoubtedly talking about ammonium nitrate, the main ingredient in the Oklahoma federal building bomb. The feds have cracked down on its supply and distribution. Very few (if any) garden stores sell it anymore for a couple of reasons.

One, it's straight nitrogen so it's generally mixed with phosphorus and potassium to make a custom blended fertilizer. Most people don't blend their own fertilizer and for those who do there's urea, a 100% nitrogen source that's not explosive. You can buy urea at virtually any decent sized garden store.

Second, there is the liability issue. I spent months working with some EOD techs and occasionally they would do a public service thing by examining how a company stored its materials. This was years ago (1994?), and they said they'd find stuff like motor oil stored on the shelves above fertilizer containing ammonium nitrate. It's highly unlikely the oil would leak into the fertilizer and then be accidentally detonated, but accidents do happen.

Right now the only place I know where you can buy straight ammonium nitrate is from a farm supply store like an Agway. Any purchase over 25 pounds requires an ID, etc.

Since the mid 1990s the feds have looked over all of the old military field manuals and internet postings and done their best to limit the availability of potential bomb making materials. You can choose to believe me or not but I am telling you facts.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 12:18 PM (tOkJB)

327 326 Ed Anger,

Ed can I buy gasoline, diesel, nail polish remover, etc etc etc?

They cannot outlaw enough things to make them "safe"

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 12:24 PM (LRFds)

328 While what you post is true, it is also just as true
that there are still plenty of fun recreational pyrotechnics you can
make not in the FM....


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 12:02 PM (LRFds)


Sven, in a lot of cases, I'd offer the suggestion that it was market forces, more than any nefarious Government scheme, that caused stuff like aluminum bronzing powder or saltpeter to be removed from the marketplace. Take the former. I remember using it for pyrotechnic purposes when I was a teenager. But nowadays, if you want to put a metallic finish on something (the reason the powder was originally marketed), you use an aerosol can of metallic paint. Aerosol paint was available when I was a teenager, but the quality was not always great, and cans had a propensity to clog. And, importantly, many people were still around who had the skill set needed to make proper use of metallic bronzing powders to finish work. Who, now, has ever been trained to do that? The people who could use the stuff for its stated purpose have died off, and the companies that manufactured it or packaged it for retail sale have discontinued it for lack of sales.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 12, 2013 12:25 PM (673KB)

329 328 Alberta Oil Peon,

Largely it is also a reflection of how less handy we are and how invasive and pervasive EPA has gotten "just because."

Nickle plating is liable to die off in the next 30 years, because it is a nasty business but also because EPA has its dick in the people's ass.....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 12:27 PM (LRFds)

330 When I saw the news item "DWS Caught in Deception With Reporters," I cringed thinking it was about Dancing With the Stars!

Then, when I opened the link and realized it was Deb Washingmy Shit, I wondered why it was a story at all.

Posted by: Jimmy at February 12, 2013 12:34 PM (0lJH+)

331 Largely it is also a reflection of how less handy we are and how invasive and pervasive EPA has gotten "just because."

Nickle
plating is liable to die off in the next 30 years, because it is a
nasty business but also because EPA has its dick in the people's
ass.....


Posted by: sven10077 at February 12, 2013 12:27 PM (LRFds)


Agreed, on both counts. And, sometimes, the replacement is better. Around here they used to sell "Atlascide" a sodium chlorate weed killer. Basically it was a soil sterilant. And of course, it's a strong oxidizing agent that could be used for making explosives. But it also made it hard to replant the area treated. But now, you buy glyphosate (RoundUp), nuke your weeds, and the residue in the soil quickly breaks down, and does not harm seeds in any case. It's a superior product in every way.
No question the restrictions on ammonium nitrate are driven by security concerns, as it is well-known, even by technical illiterates, that it can be used to make bombs, and also that it is legitimately used in vast quantities, making it (formerly) easy to get in quantities enough to make nasty big bombs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 12, 2013 12:36 PM (673KB)

332
Ed can I buy gasoline, diesel, nail polish remover, etc etc etc?

They cannot outlaw enough things to make them "safe"


True, but you're not gonna make homemade RDX with those. Years ago, though, you could. The feds have been trying to put a adult-proof cap on our daily lives since the mid 1990s. And through stealth they have been largely successful at doing it.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 12:39 PM (tOkJB)

333
Alberta Oil Peon:

Roundup sucks, my out of control hosta plants drink it like miracle grow. Clorox works much better and is cheaper. People have also recommended vinegar to me, but since I haven't tried it yet I can't tell you if it's better than Roundup.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 12, 2013 12:43 PM (tOkJB)

334 Wrestling is out?

Wrestling is out?!


(Jeez you people are slacking.)

Posted by: Farmer Joe at February 12, 2013 12:46 PM (HJsDx)

335 For those who believe we should react more aggressively to North Korean provocations, I say Let the Sanctions Work!

After only three decades it's crazy to think the North Koreans would have already been brought to heel. We need to keep the peace, at whatever cost. Let the sanctions work!

Posted by: President For Life Obama at February 12, 2013 02:12 PM (B5y+v)






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