Dr. Ben Carson's Getting Buzz

Allah thinks it's not realistic that Carson could run for President as his first elective office bid -- I think that's wrong.

The typical pathway to the president is indeed a stint as governor (or, if you're a Democrat, sometimes a Senator, which everyone understands is just not real preparation for the presidency but sometimes we pretend it is).

There's a big exception to this rule, however. People who are vastly accomplished what we might call Heroic Fields (military, and, yes, medicine, I'd argue) do in fact have all the "gravitas" that a governorship or (giggle) Senate posting is supposed to confer already, just due to their day jobs.

And Carson has quite an impressive day job indeed. People have already called him "The General Eisenhower of pediatric neuroscience." *

I wouldn't bet the farm on him but I think he's actually a possible candidate. One thing I worry about is that people that are very accomplished in fields other than politics do not learn the vital political skills of shit-eating, groveling, pandering, and lying for advancement in a bureaucratic situation, and in fact naturally recoil from such things.

And I'm not kidding around when I say those are important skills. People who are greatly accomplished sometimes have a difficult time acting as if they're not greatly accomplished, and sometimes act like They Know More Than You, which the American public hates, because people hate things that are obviously true.

Trump could never, ever learn to temper his Master of the Universe act. Mitt Romney tried his level-best, and always came across as disingenuous in his efforts.

I imagine Carson is a very bright guy, and is Usually Right, and furthermore is Usually Right even in the company of other bright guys. People who are Very Bright and Usually Right sometimes act as if they're Very Bright and Usually Right, and do have some trouble not coming across as someone who knows he's Very Bright and Usually Right.

But all of this is two years off.

The news here -- or, news to me at least -- is that Carson is retiring from surgery this June.

Gee, active guy, very used to being a Top Dog in a Highly Competitive Field.

I wonder what he might do with his free time.

Maybe origami.


* When I say "people have already called him The General Eisenhower of pediatric neurosurgery" I meant me. I'm a people. But you guessed that.


Corrected: Retiring in June, not "next year," as I said.

Posted by: Ace at 08:34 PM



Comments

1 Wouldst that he couldst.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:36 PM (+z4pE)

2 I can't be here all by my self.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:37 PM (+z4pE)

3 He's retiring this June, ace.

Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 08:37 PM (doBIb)

4 What we need is a moderate who can bring in swing voters by being a Democrat.

John Effing Kasich and that portly dude spring to mind.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 11, 2013 08:37 PM (pg7Wo)

5 But does he squid hunt.

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 08:38 PM (XLuH2)

6 "One thing I worry about is that people that are very accomplished in fields other than politics do not learn the vital political skills of shit-eating, groveling, pandering, and lying for advancement in a bureaucratic situation, and in fact naturally recoil from such things."



This scares away almost 100% of individuals who are actually qualified for the job. And look what the hell were left with. We need a clever, evil, cut throat son of a bitch.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 11, 2013 08:40 PM (NzBQO)

7 Oh please. And that's all I got to say

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2013 08:41 PM (9Bj8R)

8 Ben is a player. And he needs a mentor and a censor. But only because this is politics we're talking about.

Two years, - if he wants it.

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2013 08:41 PM (WM+rJ)

9 thanks EC.

>>>But does he squid hunt.

you can't hunt squid, they're in the water. They do not fly, they occasionally jump, like any other fish.

I think I'm going to put in a request to ban the words "flying squids" or maybe just change it to "occasionally jumping squids."

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:41 PM (LCRYB)

10 I think he should continue as an executive of something and NOT do a stint as a senator or congressman. Governor maybe.

Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 08:41 PM (doBIb)

11 Oh god, no way. He needs some executive government experience

Posted by: Truman North at February 11, 2013 08:41 PM (I2LwF)

12 Cue the inevitable ugly truth that he's a flaming lib on everything outside of taxes, education, and religionatude.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 11, 2013 08:42 PM (NTBjC)

13 I remember another nonpolitician guy -- successful in business, smooth stump speech -- who was much talked up by some rightist bloggers as the next new thing.

And just like this new fellow, the previous next-new-thing was African American. Which made him the perfect conservative antidote to Obama, or so it was said.

Whatever happened to that guy? Can't recall his name clearly. Rain, or Main, or Plain, or something.

He didn't turn out to be much good at derailing the Train, to wit, the Obama train.

So forgive me if I don't fall over myself with adoration over this next-next-new-thing guy.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 11, 2013 08:42 PM (gqT4g)

14 Thanks for posting his speech over the weekend, Ace. I hadn't heard of him until then. I liked what I heard. and I like goatees!

Posted by: L, elle at February 11, 2013 08:42 PM (0PiQ4)

15 >>>h god, no way. He needs some executive government experience

yeah you don't learn executive experience as head of a 40-man surgical team.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:42 PM (LCRYB)

16 flying squids are otherwise known as Naval aviators.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 11, 2013 08:42 PM (RuUvx)

17 He's a racist Uncle Tom cracker wannabe Oreo!
The Left

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2013 08:42 PM (9XBK2)

18 From what I've seen of Dr. Carson, he has impressed the hell out of me. He managed to state the case for conservatism and rip apart leftist social engineering in under 90 seconds - right in front of SCOAMF no less.

My caveats are this:

What are his foreign, fiscal and domestic policy stances/strengths?

Aside from being a smart, decent person, can he be a politician and defend himself from the inevitable MFM assassination attempt on him that sank Herman Cain?

Again, I like what I have seen and heard from him thus far. If he runs, and can burnish his credentials without a Tardisil moment or sexual abuse scandal in the closet, then I can definitely support him.

Besides him, I LOVE Ted Cruz.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:43 PM (XkWWK)

19
Dr. Carson doesn't seem like the type to suffer fools gladly. He's dealt with deadly serious situation, knows what works and what doesn't, and seems the sort of man who'll tell you when you're wrong without malice.

From what I've seen of him, he has the temperament for the job. He'd have my vote.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:44 PM (+z4pE)

20 A couple of years organizing some communities and he's all set....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at February 11, 2013 08:44 PM (AC0lD)

21 Also, if he can call out the MFM the way Newt did of Juan Williams, then that would be formidable indeed.

I also LOVE Trey Gowdy and Louie Gohmert.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:45 PM (XkWWK)

22 Well Bill Frist was quite accomplished as a heart/lung transplant surgeon in his own right. People talked about him being President. And then Bush. And then Schiavo. And now nobody ever talks about President Frist.

Posted by: wooga at February 11, 2013 08:46 PM (SDLxN)

23 >>>Dr. Carson doesn't seem like the type to suffer fools gladly.

but I think generally that's a bad temperament for a politician -- what works for Howard Rourke in a piece of fiction doesn't work for a guy who has to pander to at least half the country (+1).

I can see him doubling down on a lot of stuff where he knows he's right but the numbers -- the polls -- say he's "wrong."

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:46 PM (LCRYB)

24 Allah thinks it's not realistic that Carson could run for President as his first elective office bid -- I think that's wrong.

I do too (think that's wrong).
I suspect if Carson is pondering a run, he'll conjure up some more awesome speeches and let the public "draft" him.

If he spent the next 3 years doing that (and making money), he'd be a shoo-in. He'd probably form the "logic" party, as well.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 08:46 PM (Qxe/p)

25 I have never shot a squid "on the wing"... so to speak. The boat rocks too much...

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 08:46 PM (XLuH2)

26 If Dr. Carson wants it, he'll fight for it.
I have not watched speech from last week
because I avoid SCOAMT as much as possible,
even if he was miserable listening to Dr. Carson.

He has two years, as Ace wrote. We have time.

Posted by: CarolT at February 11, 2013 08:46 PM (s0f54)

27 Well, if we're gonna nominate someone who doesn't believe in evolution, it's best that it be a guy like Dr Carson who has the book learning to explain himself.

Posted by: Zippity Doo Dah at February 11, 2013 08:46 PM (E55AK)

28 The problem here I think would be name recognition.


You never want the media introducing your candidate to the public.

I hate to bring this up but that might have been a little bit of the problem with Sarah Palin.

Also--Republicans almost always get held to a higher standard--not only by the media but by their own voters.

If a candidate doesn't have much of a record the media gets to fill it in--with Obama it was all Hope and Change--for a Republican it would be the invert of that.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2013 08:47 PM (r2PLg)

29 One thing I worry about is that people that are very accomplished in fields other than politics do not learn the vital political skills of shit-eating, groveling, pandering, and lying for advancement in a bureaucratic situation, and in fact naturally recoil from such things.

Those have been the standards for politicians for centuries.

Strangely enough, we always seem to get the same result.

Someone will have to try an alternative someday.

Nah, just kidding, let's just keep doing what we've always done.

Seriously, we need a relatively incorruptible leader with a staff of thoroughly bought crooks to handle the rest of the government's dishonesty and wheeling and dealing.

Or, we could just keep enjoying the results we're getting.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 08:47 PM (bxiXv)

30 Dr. Ben is clearly a smart man and good speaker, but he really does seem too nice a guy though he did have the guts to deliver that speech in front of that guy and his ugly wife.

Posted by: L, elle at February 11, 2013 08:47 PM (0PiQ4)

31 I heard Hannity say on his radio show today that he's having a 1 hour show with Carson and a studio audience. He didn't say when....at least while I was in the car he didn't.

Posted by: Tami at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (X6akg)

32
The MFM would never stop pestering him about abortion, doctor assisted suicide and other matters of medical ethics. It would be a feeding frenzy.

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (tOkJB)

33 "Dr.Carson does not seem like he will suffer fools gladly"...well don't invite him here.

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (XLuH2)

34 Carson seems to be bulletproof so to speak. He and his wife run a national scholarship program that serves smart but needy kids. I just pray he isn't a Gustavo Fring character.

Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (doBIb)

35 If he runs for Senate in MD I'll campaign and donate to his campaign.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (FsUAO)

36 >>>I have never shot a squid "on the wing"... so to speak.

now you're just trying to goad me. They don't have wings, they have water-filled assholes.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (LCRYB)

37
he would be a fine vp pick for future president SARAH PALIN

yeah, i'm starting it

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (LbF6w)

38 Choose him as VP, or bring him into a proposed administration in a important way - and send him out onto the campaign trail. He has said in several different interviews that he has done a lot of public speaking. He knows how to inspire and to speak clearly. Just get him into the campaign - with a future appointment assured.
No previous political experience is required for a Cabinet post.


Posted by: carolina at February 11, 2013 08:49 PM (8wTle)

39 Prediction: Our healthcare system is going to be so god-awfully fucked up by 2015, that the idea of electing a brilliant person who happens to have been a big damn hero doctor *just to unfuck it* will not be unthinkable.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 11, 2013 08:49 PM (khf9A)

40 Well his book Silent Spring killed millions when they stopped with the DDT, I don't see how you could think he should be president.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 11, 2013 08:49 PM (QLJPW)

41 12 Cue the inevitable ugly truth that he's a flaming lib on everything outside of taxes, education, and religionatude.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 11, 2013 08:42 PM (NTBjC)

Read up on the guy. In a word: nope.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 08:49 PM (Su0W2)

42 Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (LCRYB)

Aren't those flaps on either side of the body called wings on a squid?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (GsoHv)

43 Try and steal a senate seat first. If that doesn't work, then he can be head of HHS or whatever.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (FsUAO)

44
I can see him doubling down on a lot of stuff where he knows he's right but the numbers -- the polls -- say he's "wrong."

Yup, he'd probably need a bit of coaching, but not much. Somebody would have to make sure that any political consultant who's worked for the GOP the past two cycles is kept far away from him. Rove, I'ma looking at you.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (+z4pE)

45 I am weary of lurching from one supposed conservative savior to another, each one eventually showing a fatal flaw. Feels desparate.

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (Dnbau)

46 27 Posted by: Zippity Doo Dah at February 11, 2013 08:46 PM (E55AK)

I believe in evolution just as much as I believe in G-d as well as being opposed to abortion except in VERY limited circumstances.

You just need someone who can explain clearly and cogently what the problems are - not a Todd Akin response.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (XkWWK)

47 >>>
Yup, he'd probably need a bit of coaching, but not much.

the problem wouldn't be his intellectual capacity to understand the advice but his psychological ability to take it.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (LCRYB)

48 who am I kidding, we are desparate

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (Dnbau)

49 I like dr Ben Carson for the same reason I liked herman Cain, he's accomplished things in this life that are tangible and laudable. These are guys who get shit done.

Go Dr. Carson.

Carson/Palin 2016

Posted by: General Woundwort at February 11, 2013 08:51 PM (zOP5o)

50
who's that Georgette women in the RNC?

you reckon she'll cotton to this Dr Ben Carson?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 11, 2013 08:51 PM (C0ttM)

51 >>>I am weary of lurching from one supposed conservative savior to another, each one eventually showing a fatal flaw. Feels desparate.

we're nominating *SOMEONE* in 4 years.

I didn't say "savior."

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:51 PM (LCRYB)

52 >>>I just pray he isn't a Gustavo Fring character.

What, after he retires he will be take on a role as the only decent actor in the sack full of cheese dicks known as the show "Revolution"?

Posted by: Wooga at February 11, 2013 08:51 PM (SDLxN)

53 Please God, let him have a low handicap.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 11, 2013 08:51 PM (MhA4j)

54 >>>who am I kidding, we are desparate

that too

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:51 PM (LCRYB)

55 the problem wouldn't be his intellectual capacity to understand the advice but his psychological ability to take it.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (LCRYB)


Yeah. Like he had an easy childhood, and all that.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 08:52 PM (Qxe/p)

56 32
The MFM would never stop pestering him about abortion, doctor assisted suicide and other matters of medical ethics. It would be a feeding frenzy.
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (tOkJB)


I don't think he's Todd Akin. The problem is can he handle the constant interruptions/attacks by the Piers Morgans and Chris Matthews' of the MFM?

If he can do that, he's golden.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:52 PM (XkWWK)

57 >Cue the inevitable ugly truth that he's a flaming lib on everything outside of taxes, education, and religionatude.

Well, he's right on taxes, spending, education and abortion. I guess I haven't heard his take on guns, but I'm not sure what other issues I give a fuck about that aren't encompassed by those. Foreign affairs I suppose, but that's going to be mooted by our impending insolvency if we don't take care of spending first and foremost.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 11, 2013 08:52 PM (khf9A)

58

I hear a Carson whistle.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 08:52 PM (DAoux)

59 On Cavuto today he said, "If I had a nickel for everyone who has suggested I run for president, I could have already funded a campaign."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 08:53 PM (UOM48)

60 Rand for Pres.

Get Carson into the senate to replace Rand.

Boom.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 11, 2013 08:53 PM (FsUAO)

61 >>>Yeah. Like he had an easy childhood, and all that.

I mean pride.

Politics is not a profession that favors those both proud AND honest.

Proud, yes. Everyone seeking high office has a huge ego.

But honest? Honest AND proud? you run into problems.

You've got to hide your pride away.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:53 PM (LCRYB)

62 To hear him speak brought back to me what we are or were as a nation as individuals and then as americans. The strain to reach your utmost self, the work and effort required to succeed on an individual basis , and being successful in your endeavor but not going fruity loop , but working even more to help others to reach their full potential, All doNe I'm sure with ache being the scenes but determinant in His views,


He actually seemed strong and humble simultaneously.

Also He certainly seems to know more about how economics work than the team in power now.

Posted by: willow-ette at February 11, 2013 08:53 PM (nqBYe)

63



I wonder what he might do with his free time.

Maybe origami.



Maybe calamari.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 08:54 PM (DAoux)

64
I have not watched speech from last week
because I avoid SCOAMT as much as possible,
even if he was miserable listening to Dr. Carson.


CarolT, click my nic, I posted it over at my place, too.

Let's see what he does now that he's gotten a bit of exposure. He was good with Cavuto this afternoon, IMO. Of course, I picked Perry, so what do I know?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:54 PM (+z4pE)

65 40 Well his book Silent Spring killed millions when they stopped with the DDT, I don't see how you could think he should be president.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 11, 2013 08:49 PM (QLJPW)

Ha!

Also, it amazes me how many people have not heard of a guy who headed the team that performed the first successful separation of conjoined twins, has written four books and had a movie made about his life.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 08:54 PM (Su0W2)

66 You've got to hide your pride away.
Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:53 PM (LCRYB)

______________

That sounds like a really bad lyric to some hippie song.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2013 08:54 PM (r2PLg)

67 i'm seriously going to ban both squids and calamari and then your wagons will be fixed.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:55 PM (LCRYB)

68
I must admit that I am now so frustrated by the widespread mental illness in the U.S. that my first thought was: "The man is most certainly not the favorite son from the state of underachievement."




Jeebus. How did we get here?

Posted by: jc at February 11, 2013 08:55 PM (i8c5b)

69 he can't be worse

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 08:55 PM (Dnbau)

70 66 That sounds like a really bad lyric to some hippie song.
Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2013 08:54 PM (r2PLg)

Beatles, dude.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:55 PM (XkWWK)

71 He spoke the the individual responsibilty to self determination, not that others should do your determining for you.

Posted by: willow-ette at February 11, 2013 08:55 PM (nqBYe)

72 he can't be worse
Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 08:55 PM (Dnbau)

Pretty low bar there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2013 08:56 PM (9Bj8R)

73 Can't wait to vote or contribute. I don't care which. Heck, maybe both.

Posted by: knob at February 11, 2013 08:56 PM (H1bc7)

74 invertibrate hate must abate

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 08:56 PM (Dnbau)

75
Also He certainly seems to know more about how economics work than the team in power now

Your average temporarily flying squid knows more about economics than the current Gang of Idiots.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 08:56 PM (+z4pE)

76 Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:55 PM (LCRYB)

Did you know that squid have beaks?

http://tinyurl.com/a566pta

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 08:57 PM (GsoHv)

77 This guy is so incredibly awesome.

The TFG cheering squad, "The most intelligent preezy ever!!!" and the Shrillary cheering squad, will pull out their biggest, most loathsome guns to go after and trash Dr. Carson.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 08:57 PM (UOM48)

78 Also, it amazes me how many people have not heard of
a guy who headed the team that performed the first successful
separation of conjoined twins, has written four books and had a movie
made about his life.


Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 08:54 PM (Su0W2)


My daughter teaches at an inner city charter school. I was telling her about Dr. Carson's speech at the National prayer breakfast and she said, "Oh, I know him. I showed the movie about him to my 5th grade kids....Gifted Hands. I have to show it to the 6th graders too."

Posted by: Tami at February 11, 2013 08:57 PM (X6akg)

79 I trust no one. If fricking Ayn Rand was resurrected and got in the race, I'd suspect she'd turn on us 20 minutes into the White House.

Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 08:57 PM (A7Wh1)

80 70 66 That sounds like a really bad lyric to some hippie song.
Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2013 08:54 PM (r2PLg)

Beatles, dude.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2013 08:55 PM (XkWWK)

_____________

I sort of knew that.

The Beatles irk the hell outta me--just because everyone is a fan.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2013 08:57 PM (r2PLg)

81 I mean pride.

Politics is not a profession that favors those both proud AND honest.

Proud, yes. Everyone seeking high office has a huge ego.

But honest? Honest AND proud? you run into problems.

You've got to hide your pride away.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:53 PM (LCRYB)


That would be the show stopper.
OTOH, I know a several doctors (3 cardiologists, 2 urologists) that would qualify.
That's why I dumped them for other doctors.
My current doctors wouldn't even consider politics.


Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 08:58 PM (Qxe/p)

82 My broken leg has been killing me and this flying squid thing has been just the medicine I needed. (And the tequila) Lol. Thanks for starting it ACE. We should go hunting sometime together. God really I just can stop laughing. Thank you all...Ok..now this Carson guy....

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 08:58 PM (XLuH2)

83 Backwards, your point is noted.

and accurate.

sad it is these days, innit?

Posted by: willow-ette at February 11, 2013 08:58 PM (nqBYe)

84 VP might be a better option

Posted by: Jose at February 11, 2013 08:58 PM (srIqv)

85 What sane person would want to be President in 2016, with more than half the country heavily dependent on government handouts, fighting a Senate and a Congress with no political will to cut any spending because it might cost them the next election, and there's always a next election, with the media holding up the corpses of month old babies howling that it was the President's spending cuts that caused the death of those babies, looking around the Oval Office, realising the massive changes that need to take place, not only in government but in the very culture, and finding you're alone?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at February 11, 2013 08:58 PM (AC0lD)

86 http://tinyurl.com/a566pta


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 08:57 PM (GsoHv

Yikes. Looks like what I imagine Nancy Pelosi's vagina looks like now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (UOM48)

87 brain bleach. stat.

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (Dnbau)

88 Anyone who can work in Alexis de Tocqueville during a speech while in the presence of the anti-conservative and the first wookie has my vote.

Posted by: General Woundwort at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (zOP5o)

89 Question.... would you even be talking about this guy is he was not Black?

Posted by: Romeo13...... at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (lZBBB)

90 Well just so you all know--

Jeff B. already has dibs on Chris Christie--he is there first.

I'm off to go mash fruit.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2013 09:00 PM (r2PLg)

91 89
Question.... would you even be talking about this guy is he was not Black?

Posted by: Romeo13...... at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (lZBBB


Yes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:00 PM (UOM48)

92 And I'll add this - You don't have to know shit to be president. Thats what those other 1,000 people in the WH are for. It helps, or maybe is a hindrance! Look at SCoaMF, smartest mofo this side of Kenya the left says. All you need to know how to do is make the correct choice from those that ARE experts.

Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (A7Wh1)

93 The problem is can he handle the constant interruptions/attacks by the Piers Morgans and Chris Matthews' of the MFM?



=====



the problem is that we grant those assholes power. if a candidate, any candidate stopped kowtowing in their direction -- the job becomes ours to make sure that candidate does not lose the viability they may have had prior to their refusal to play by the media rules.


in other words -- candidates need to stand up -- and we need to back their play.

Posted by: jc at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (i8c5b)

94 Carson/ West 2016.....left heads will explode

Posted by: ET at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (YpjaN)

95 89 Question.... would you even be talking about this guy is he was not Black?
Posted by: Romeo13...... at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (lZBBB)

The way he dressed down Obama in front of everyone?

Is that question a joke?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (FsUAO)

96 we would be talking about him because he had the stones to ""speak truth to power" in front of the JEF. Something our own leadership will not do

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (Dnbau)

97 It's not Carson's damn fault that a white man isn't ALLOWED by the MSM to stick it to BHO to his face.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (FsUAO)

98

Cal Thomas dumps on Dr. Carson

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas021213.php3#.URmiGvKc2cQ


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (DAoux)

99 Ace, why you no likey the navy folks and appetizers?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 11, 2013 09:02 PM (6IKyK)

100
sad it is these days, innit?

Yessitis. You missed the thread where we were discussing the Great Divide between Reality and Politics. We're dealing with some sick people.

Which would make a doctor just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 09:02 PM (+z4pE)

101 89 Question.... would you even be talking about this guy is he was not Black?
Posted by: Romeo13...... at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (lZBBB)


Ask yourself - did we talk about Joe Wilson? Darrel Issa? Donald Trump?

Did we talk about Newt when he "dissed" the press? Rombley's first Presidential debate?

Should answer your question.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:02 PM (bxiXv)

102
The squid do not "occasionally jump"! They friggin' FLY via JET PROPULSION.

A dolphin jumps out of the water, a squid FLIES.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 11, 2013 09:02 PM (mJkp9)

103 The color of his skin is the only reason this is being discussed. Good grief GOP. This is massively desperate and stupid. No offense to Dr. Carson, but we need to get back to a serious topic.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 11, 2013 09:02 PM (/ld9q)

104
>>you can't hunt squid, they're in the water.

Speargun. You can hunt underwater.

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2013 09:03 PM (N52Ot)

105 >>>89 Question.... would you even be talking about this guy is he was not Black?

Yes. People talked this way about whitey whiteman Bill "cracker face" Frist for years. Someone who is a top line surgeon, and capable of articulating conservative political philosophy, and is not a douchebag... Is going to get this sort of talk.

Posted by: Wooga at February 11, 2013 09:04 PM (SDLxN)

106 The way he dressed down Obama in front of everyone?

Is that question a joke?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (FsUAO)

96 we would be talking about him because he had the stones to ""speak truth to power" in front of the JEF. Something our own leadership will not do

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (Dnbau)


(1) He didn't dress Obama down. He ignored him. Critical difference.
(2) There was no "truth to power" in the speech. It was pure logic.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 09:04 PM (Qxe/p)

107 The color of his skin is the only reason this is being discussed. Good grief GOP. This is massively desperate and stupid. No offense to Dr. Carson, but we need to get back to a serious topic.



Who else is making a name right now?

Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 09:04 PM (doBIb)

108 Romeo, well that He was a a breakfast with Obama and was willing to disuses openly the failure of american dynamics, economy ect. who else did that?

Who could have been a persuasive or eloquent in such a short time (50 minutes) to tackle the list of what is destroying us now? and do it with class?
Sorry but i haven't see anyone stand in front of the americn people and face down this crowd of contemptable destroying ideas latelt.

Posted by: willow-ette at February 11, 2013 09:04 PM (nqBYe)

109 in other words -- candidates need to stand up -- and we need to back their play.

Posted by: jc at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (i8c5b)


We need Newt's tactics without the baggage or judgement issues.

Unfortunately, aggressive people, while common in the halls of power, tend to have a lot of conflicts in their past.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:04 PM (bxiXv)

110 >Cal Thomas dumps on Dr. Carson

Cal Thomas has a prison bitch mentality. This is war.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 11, 2013 09:05 PM (khf9A)

111 Question.... would you even be talking about this guy is he was not Black?

Posted by: Romeo13...... at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (lZBBB

Two words: Chris Christie.

Remember how both men and women (including me) were swooning over him? Black as the Ace of Spades, he is.

/

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 09:05 PM (Su0W2)

112 lately

Posted by: willow-ette at February 11, 2013 09:05 PM (nqBYe)

113 OMG. ComradeA you are really playing with fire here...you are going to get squid hammered.

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 09:05 PM (XLuH2)

114 Wait..is this correct?

a gifted surgeon, with no previous governmental experience publicly stands up to preznintfoshizzle, the msm under reports it/ knocks him so now we should run this talented surgeon for CIC and there is nary a mention of combatting both the msm and the democrats' election stealing escapdes.

Hey! Sounds like a plan.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 11, 2013 09:05 PM (53riN)

115 I've actually had Gifted Hands on my DVR for probably over a year. Friends of the family's kid got a Carson Scholarship one year.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 11, 2013 09:06 PM (QLJPW)

116 Forget this guy.

African Americans are democrats through and through, and would never vote for a Republican, even if his name were Barack Hussein Obama.

Zero goes on TV tomorrow night in his continuing quest to kill the Republican brand, and of course, it will work.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 11, 2013 09:06 PM (PH+2B)

117 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (UOM4

One of my life's goals has been to keep the image of Nancy Pelosi's vagina out of my mind's eye.

Thanks for that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 09:07 PM (GsoHv)

118

Wait.

He's black?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 11, 2013 09:07 PM (SljXf)

119 I don't see color. It usually takes a nudge for me to even notice it. For some reason, the closer you get to the left, the more you notice it.

Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 09:07 PM (A7Wh1)

120 Constant fucking trolling. Talk about nothing better to do.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:07 PM (bxiXv)

121 Yeah, let's keep running professional gubmint bitches. How dare we dream of a man of Dr. Carson's intellect and conservative values considering a run?

Let's trot out a few more RINO lawyers. That always works out so well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:07 PM (UOM48)

122 I thought Gifted Hands was a Japanese Massage Parlor?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 11, 2013 09:07 PM (6IKyK)

123 Cal Thomas dumps on Dr. Carson

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas021213.php3#.URmiGvKc2cQ


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (DAoux)
Cal Thomas looks like a muppet.

CARSON IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE

Posted by: CAC at February 11, 2013 09:08 PM (twQE8)

124 Grifting hands, a movie about Obama.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at February 11, 2013 09:09 PM (AWmfW)

125 Has he got Roves permission to run, that's the real question.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 11, 2013 09:09 PM (6IKyK)

126 >I am weary of lurching from one supposed
conservative savior to another, each one eventually showing a fatal
flaw. Feels desparate.

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 08:50 PM (Dnbau)


This-- wasn't Rubio the hot new flavor not too long ago?

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 09:09 PM (8sCoq)

127 Carson/Cain 2016.

One messes with their minds while the other makes them a pizza offer they can't refuse.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2013 09:09 PM (pu60A)

128 You've got to be kidding. Look, I was as impressed with the man's speech, and his apparent character, as anyone. But it takes more than that to be President.

The President needs to have an understanding of, among other things, the Constitution, working with a legislature, foreign policy, and, yes, politics.

The man has about as much experience and knowledge as Obama had when he was elected President, and look at the utter failure he's been.

Posted by: JohnJ at February 11, 2013 09:09 PM (Tt6ky)

129 117 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (UOM4

One of my life's goals has been to keep the image of Nancy Pelosi's vagina out of my mind's eye.
----
Try being asleep with her talking on cSpan, and it causing you to dream your on a date with her. Yeah, I don't sleep with cspan on anymore.

Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 09:09 PM (A7Wh1)

130 I'm sad that a Dr. Carson vs. Barry Obama debate will never happen.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:09 PM (UOM48)

131 African Americans are democrats through and through, and would never vote for a Republican, even if his name were Barack Hussein Obama.

Zero goes on TV tomorrow night in his continuing quest to kill the Republican brand, and of course, it will work.
Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 11, 2013 09:06 PM (PH+2B)
Except in races where a "viable" black Republican runs, he splits the vote. Ex RNC chairman Steele didn't lose his Senate race because of black voters, IYKWIM.

Posted by: CAC at February 11, 2013 09:10 PM (twQE8)

132 "One thing I worry about is that people that are very accomplished in fields other than politics do not learn the vital political skills of shit-eating, groveling, pandering, and lying for advancement in a bureaucratic situation, and in fact naturally recoil from such things."

Dr. Carson works within a huge bureaucratic system that is tightly regulated by government: the hospital and healthcare system. Don't kid yourself thinking that political skills of the basest sort are not required in healthcare; it's a highly competitive field where all are jockeying for the top-dog position and where allies and subordinates will betray each other at any time. Massive egos, like politicians. Power-mad, like politicians.

I used to work for a doctor who was the equivalent of Dr. Carson (but in a different specialty). There is nothing in politics that my boss couldn't have handled, but he brought the added advantage of actual ability, a proven record for achieving successful results, and extensive experience in business ownership and massive wealth production -- while still being a decent and honorable person himself and a great parent. When insurers were refusing to provide malpractice coverage for doctors in his specialty, he set to work to solve the problem -- and did so in ways that made the insurers sit up and behave, not to mention to try to drive him out of business. But he took his solutions across the country and, fighting for all physicians in his specialty, beat insurers at their own game. When he eventually fell, it was to one of his closest colleagues, who stabbed him in the back and swooped in to capture the spoils for himself (a sneaky doctor whom I had never trusted).

We could use more people like Carson wielding the levers of power in our government.

Posted by: pa at February 11, 2013 09:10 PM (ATKsf)

133 For the record, I want Governor Walker.

Posted by: CAC at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (twQE8)

134 *But of course if he were to actually be the nominee, there's no doubt he'd be better than anyone the Democrats put up.

Posted by: JohnJ at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (Tt6ky)

135 OT but 'Heat' is a masterpiece of a crime flick. Characters, story, music- it's all there

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (8sCoq)

136 Let's trot out a few more RINO lawyers. That always works out so well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:07 PM (UOM4


Change is scary.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (bxiXv)

137 African Americans are democrats through and through, and would never vote for a Republican, even if his name were Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 11, 2013 09:06 PM (PH+2B)

As one of those "democrat through and through" black persons, I offer this: who gives a rat's ass who black people vote for? Black people are only 11% of voters. And as soon as conservatives stop playing the group politics game that the Left invented, the better off all of us--including black people--will be.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (Su0W2)

138 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 09:01 PM (DAoux)

Fuck you Cal Thomas.

We have lost the last two elections precisely because of his ass-kissing mincing about. Oh no! We mustn't be mean!

And the Dems take it to the bank.

Fuck every Republican who won't go toe-to-toe with any Democrat and call him out on whatever topic is at hand.

Don't forget...WE LOST!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (GsoHv)

139 We're not sure this gut is competent to perform surgery let alone lead the country.

Posted by: TNR at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (4cRnj)

140 @116

The GOP does not need the black vote to win.

They could 0.0 of the black vote and still win the presidency

Posted by: General Woundwort at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (zOP5o)

141 I won't be watching TFG's SOTU address tomorrow night. Have plans with my girlfriends for dinner.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (UOM48)

142 perhaps I am niave but I do not think we are talking about him because he will bring us the black vote. We are talking about him because he is able to communicate, and apparently believes in, conservative ideals

Posted by: thunderb at February 11, 2013 09:12 PM (Dnbau)

143 Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (8sCoq)

With Pacino chewing up the lines? I was rooting for DeNiro.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 09:12 PM (GsoHv)

144 "this guy" not "this gut".

Posted by: TNR at February 11, 2013 09:12 PM (4cRnj)

145 The GOP does not need the black vote to win.

They could 0.0 of the black vote and still win the presidency
Posted by: General Woundwort at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (zOP5o)

Hola.

Posted by: Southwestern US Demographics at February 11, 2013 09:12 PM (twQE8)

146 If he is of sound mind on the bill of rights an attracts good staff I'll back him with money and perhaps personal effort.

The problem with barack Obama is not the color of his skin it is the color of his economic thought.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 09:12 PM (LRFds)

147 Carson/Flying Squid!

Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 11, 2013 09:13 PM (SUKHu)

148 Posted by: CAC at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (twQE

Dude!

He's flat-chested!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 09:13 PM (GsoHv)

149 121 Yeah, let's keep running professional gubmint bitches. How dare we dream of a man of Dr. Carson's intellect and conservative values considering a run?

Let's trot out a few more RINO lawyers. That always works out so well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:07 PM (UOM4


You're suggesting that we keep trying the same things, because next time we'll get different results, right?

(Yes, I know your comment was sarcasm, and) yes, I'm all for using the next couple of years to learn things from Dr. Carson.

Even if Carson doesn't run, he pointed out in his speech that listening to different viewpoints (and tactics, in his case) are always wise things to do. That means that hopefully whoever does run picks up a couple pointers.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 09:13 PM (Qxe/p)

150 *But of course if he were to actually be the nominee, there's no doubt he'd be better than anyone the Democrats put up.
Posted by: JohnJ at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (Tt6ky)

'Better"? What does that mean. In truth the only thing that matters, is "Can he win"? If want to gain back control of the Government and stop this dash to socialism, that is a concept we better get used to.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2013 09:14 PM (9Bj8R)

151 Dr. Carson espouses every single thing we conservatives claim to believe.

He's the Real Deal. Yet, we're worried how he'd be portrayed by the MFM? Lol. And the liberals will try to eat him alive. The Clinton Machine will be in full-on Destructo Mode.

I say let's support his (potential) run. God bless him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:15 PM (UOM48)

152 Have plans with my girlfriends for dinner.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:11 PM (UOM4

My plan A is digging my ear drums out with a sawzall to avoid even the tiniest possibility of hearing him speak.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 09:15 PM (GsoHv)

153 We should give Romney one more try.

Posted by: Karl Rove at February 11, 2013 09:15 PM (4cRnj)

154 Anyone who isn't Jeb Bush or morbidly obese has got to be the frontrunner, right now.

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2013 09:15 PM (xg8xl)

155 Not only can good ideas not win in a society divided starkly into ethnic voting blocks, but such a society will eventually resemble gang-riddled inner cities.

People pushing for that are pushing for violent conflict, some of them are just too stupid to know it. Some of them.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:15 PM (bxiXv)

156

Blue state Republicans widdle themselves yet again over the ethnic savior du jour.

You guys....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (kdS6q)

157 >OT but 'Heat' is a masterpiece of a crime flick. Characters, story, music- it's all there

Agreed. And, the sound engineering is top notch too. For downtown shootout, they actually miked up the buildings and shot blanks and then mixed it into surround. If you watch that on a good home theater, it sounds like you're in the middle of a shootout, especially the part where Pacino is shooting the FN-FAL.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (khf9A)

158 Maybe he could get the Beatles back together? He's a Doctor

Posted by: Torch at February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (H+y+M)

159 Question.... would you even be talking about this guy is he was not Black?

Posted by: Romeo13...... at February 11, 2013 08:59 PM (lZBBB
----------------------------------------------------------
Ummmmm yes. This is a remarkable man. Full stop. His life story is about overcoming all odds and succeeding beyond ALL expectations. Nothing affirmative action about this man at all.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (jucos)

160 Plus he was a hell of a linebacker for the Giants in the 80s.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (QLJPW)

161
The man has about as much experience and knowledge as Obama had when he was elected President, and look at the utter failure he's been.

I begg to differ. TFG is the most vapid, air-headed, left-wing sack of nothing that I've ever seen. In Texanese, he's no hat or cattle. He's almost a parody of a politician who knows next to nothing about the way America works. He was an AA hire from the word go, and has been treated like a sumo wrestler all his life, fed and pampered by rich Marxists.

We are much worse off for having elected this shell of a human to the highest office in the free world. Only those of low intellect voted for him.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (+z4pE)

162 Non PC? Tocqueville? Loves the Lord? Are you Kuh-RAZY? This man is a serious threat to the Status quo. Needs 24/7 security, to avoid an unfortunate accident or unexpected medical "issue." (See: Breitbarting)

Posted by: Check Yoself B4 U Wreck Yoself at February 11, 2013 09:17 PM (d4vjp)

163 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2013 09:14 PM (9Bj8R)

Lose with dignity is the Republican mantra.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 09:17 PM (GsoHv)

164 155 Mero,

Donks want us "retired'...they are nihilist by nature.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 09:17 PM (LRFds)

165 I won't be watching TFG's SOTU address tomorrow night. Have plans to do anything else but watch that lyin' socialist jug-eared misbegotten son of a bitch

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 09:17 PM (8sCoq)

166 #160 That was Harry Carson.

Posted by: Check Yoself B4 U Wreck Yoself at February 11, 2013 09:17 PM (d4vjp)

167 pardon my french as they say

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 09:18 PM (8sCoq)

168 According to FEC records Dr. Carson has donated only to Democrats in the past.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 11, 2013 09:18 PM (als/Z)

169 I'll keep off the Carson bandwagon for now. Sarah Palin burned mewhen it came to the "conservative savior" wave. With that caveat, two things to keep in mind if he wants to run:

1.Somebody would have to make sure that any political consultant who's worked for the GOP the past two cycles is kept far away from him. Rove, I'ma looking at you.

THIS. And get someone to tell him the GOP establishment hates uppity blacks who want to upset the gravy train as much as the left does.

2. Get Sarah Palin to have a heart-to-heart with Carson to tell him EXACTLY what the scum in the MFM are capable of. He needs balls and spine of steel to survive their filth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 09:18 PM (TLezx)

170
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shitat February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (+z4pE)


You forgot 'lazy'.
Guy could lose his racism merit badge for an omission like that.

Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2013 09:18 PM (xg8xl)

171 Carson would get socons, he proved in his speech that he has fiscon instincts.

He can tell a good story like Reagan.

In a nutshell, he would get a tremendous amount of support right out of the gate.

I say we hitch our fates to this good man, after all what are te alternative?

Jeb Bush!

Fuck that noise!

Posted by: General Woundwort at February 11, 2013 09:18 PM (zOP5o)

172 I'm off to finish Chris Kyle's "American Sniper" while my husband watches some shit on the Golf Channel.

'Night, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:18 PM (UOM48)

173 If you watch that on a good home theater, it sounds like you're in the middle of a shootout, especially the part where Pacino is shooting the FN-FAL.



I believe he's shooting an FN FNC. Close enough though.

Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 09:19 PM (doBIb)

174 I think I'm going to put in a request to ban the words "flying squids" or maybe just change it to "occasionally jumping squids."

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:41 PM (LCRYB)

Flying squids fly in the same sense that flying fish "fly". They propel themselves out of the water, and glide for some distance on winglike appendages.
But squid are very smart. They'll get that duration thing figured out yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2013 09:20 PM (673KB)

175 Posted by: Check Yoself B4 U Wreck Yoself at February 11, 2013 09:17 PM (d4vjp)

Are you new around here?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 09:20 PM (GsoHv)

176 >He can tell a good story like Reagan.

He's also disarmingly likable, much like Reagan (in a different way obviously.)

Posted by: DanInMN at February 11, 2013 09:20 PM (khf9A)

177 I'm just jumping in here.

I heard Ken Cuccinelli the VA AG on Levin on the way home, and although I'm from NC, I going to send the guy a "little bit of money" for his Gubernatorial run. Love the guy, and HATE Terry McAullife. The "r" Govs. and AG's are the stalwart to protect a small bit of the 10th, and fight against the Federal over-reach. In particular, fighting the EPA.

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:20 PM (mkb9H)

178 You know who flies farther than any damn weasel-like mammal ever born? Me - that's who.

Posted by: Flyin' Squid at February 11, 2013 09:20 PM (KjlbF)

179 If you watch that on a good home theater, it sounds like you're in the middle of a shootout, especially the part where Pacino is shooting the FN-FAL.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (khf9A)


It's surprising the difference "real" sounds make. Movie sounds can jar, quite often, as they don't reflect reality very well, even when visual effects do.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:21 PM (bxiXv)

180 Maybe Sven could be his campaign manager; seems to have a lot of time on his hands

Posted by: A Guy Can Dream, Can't He? at February 11, 2013 09:21 PM (AVfT8)

181 Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 09:19 PM (doBIb)

http://tinyurl.com/afxo2rd

I love the internet!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2013 09:21 PM (GsoHv)

182 >I believe he's shooting an FN FNC.

No shit? You sir, have a better eye for weaponry than I do. I guess I'm just going to have to watch it again now!

Posted by: DanInMN at February 11, 2013 09:21 PM (khf9A)

183 The most important thing - in terms of winning - is charisma. Remember that.

Posted by: sb at February 11, 2013 09:21 PM (j0MFs)

184 #175 Nope. But I sock around here quite a bit.

Posted by: Check Yoself B4 U Wreck Yoself at February 11, 2013 09:22 PM (d4vjp)

185 It's nice to dream.

I will note that a surgeon that can head a team of another 100 doctors and operate for over a day, has to have some pretty damn good people skills.

Ever tried to get two doctor to agree on anything?

I'd rather see him in the Senate from Maryland!!

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:22 PM (wR+pz)

186 Haven't watched the speech or seen a transcript anywhere.
Like what I've heard except somebody upthread saying political contributions to the dems. As a certain ewok would say, is this something?

BTW - K-STATE @KU on ESPN big Monday right now.

Posted by: teej at February 11, 2013 09:23 PM (k4ET0)

187 FN FNC!

According to these guys, anyhoo:
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Heat#FN_FNC-80

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 11, 2013 09:23 PM (6DlI7)

188 UNQUALIFIES!!1!eleventy!!1!

He hasn't anything of value like community organizes!

He doesn't have worldy experience with anti... erm, "non-American" cultures and his worldview is not diverse and stuff!!1!

Posted by: MSNBC at February 11, 2013 09:23 PM (Vk2pI)

189 Plus he was a hell of a linebacker for the Giants in the 80s.
Posted by: USS Diversity at February 11, 2013 09:16 PM (QLJPW)
--------------------------------------------------------
His white brother Johnny did a hell of a job on the Tonight show for over thirty years as well.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:23 PM (jucos)

190 Rooting for you teej. Bill Self can kiss my ass.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 11, 2013 09:24 PM (KjlbF)

191 Dictators don't lose elections. And the ruling class elites, the globalists, the MarxProgs ain't putting all this in place to have it erased - even partially - by "elections".

Yeah, I'm a cynical POS.

Posted by: Barack Ovomit at February 11, 2013 09:24 PM (XvrTA)

192 now you're just trying to goad me. They don't have wings, they have water-filled assholes.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 08:48 PM (LCRYB)

Just wait 'til squids discover coffee enemas, like that couple in Florida. The caffeine will get them so high they leave chemtrails.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2013 09:24 PM (673KB)

193 Anybody think DeMint will personally try a run for POTUS from Heritage?

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:24 PM (mkb9H)

194 Question.... would you even be talking about this guy is he was not Black?

No. Because we're all patronizing racists.

Fuck off, squid.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 09:24 PM (TLezx)

195 Pros - 49% might agree with him
Cons - 99.9% of that 49% doesn't know he exists.

Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 09:25 PM (A7Wh1)

196 The next Herman Cane?

If he wasn't Black, would we be having this conversation?


I think not.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:25 PM (wR+pz)

197 I'm not sure I could vote for a guy who killed so many Navajos, even though he was frontier hero.

Posted by: USS Diversity at February 11, 2013 09:25 PM (QLJPW)

198 * When I say "people have already called him The General Eisenhower of pediatric neurosurgery" I meant me. I'm a people.

I thought you were an Ewok.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:25 PM (hsRr9)

199 Water filled assholes, man I love this place...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 11, 2013 09:26 PM (6IKyK)

200 I believe he's shooting an FN FNC. Close enough though.
Posted by: EC at February 11, 2013 09:19 PM (doBIb)


It's either an FNC or a 5.56 FAL, probably the FNC. IIRC the gas assebly is different and should be able to see that on screen.

It's definitely a 5.56, you can see by the magazine.

They did have a FAL in the movie, and they *may* have used that sound for the "hero gun" anyway. My FN has a different muzzle brake so the sound would not be quite the same, but it sounds similar.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:26 PM (bxiXv)

201 How many fetuses has he sucked the brain out of? You're not really a doctor unless you perform Partal Birth abortions on pre-teen sex slaves!!1!

Posted by: NARAL at February 11, 2013 09:26 PM (Vk2pI)

202 Thanks muad'dib.
I kinda like Bill Self though. You know something I don't?

Posted by: teej at February 11, 2013 09:27 PM (k4ET0)

203 That guy hit on me in 1974!!! We were riding in a cab, and he started humping me.

Posted by: Media Operative at February 11, 2013 09:27 PM (A7Wh1)

204 The President needs to have an understanding of, among other things, the Constitution, working with a legislature, foreign policy, and, yes, politics.

Anybody that thinks running a department in a hospital doesn't involve politics, foreign policy, and working with a legislature -- albeit on a different plane of reality -- knows very little about how a hospital works.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 09:28 PM (Qxe/p)

205 195 Pros - 49% might agree with him
Cons - 99.9% of that 49% doesn't know he exists.
Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 09:25 PM (A7Wh1)


...and there's the problem. F'ing LIV's.
Bread & Circuses, and "free" phones & s*#t!

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:28 PM (mkb9H)

206 are squids weasels.....discuss

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 11, 2013 09:28 PM (GVxQo)

207 A political payback to Hispanic voters that does little or nothing for African-Americans, reasoned Sam from Milwaukee on Wisconsin’s 1290 WMCS AM’s “Earl Ingram Show.”
“Our issues are not being highlighted and pushed, and things like gay marriage and (immigration) are being pushed to the forefront,” the caller said. “Hispanics are effectively organized. For us not to be organized and for us not to hold our leadership accountable is disheartening.”

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 11, 2013 09:28 PM (e8kgV)

208 >They did have a FAL in the movie, and they *may* have used that sound
for the "hero gun" anyway. My FN has a different muzzle brake so the
sound would not be quite the same, but it sounds similar.

Tom Sizemore's character was using the FAL from the link above. I think you might be right on the sound though. Pacino's gun sounds more like a .308 to me than a .223, but it could just be the way it echos.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (khf9A)

209 206
are squids weasels.....discuss

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 11, 2013 09:28 PM (GVxQo)
Squids, the honey badgers of the sea!

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (wR+pz)

210 How many fetuses has he sucked the brain out of? You're not really a doctor unless you perform Partal Birth abortions on pre-teen sex slaves!!1!

Where would one apply for such work? I am between jobs myself.

Posted by: Kermit Gosnell M.D. at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (hsRr9)

211 Pediatric neurosurgery. Because, hey, plain old neurosurgery just wasn't challenging enough.


I would prefer Dr. Carson head up the newly formed division of What The Fuck Is Wrong With You at the GOP. The WTF division will be responsible for listening to consultants explain their grand plans and schemes and then will reply What The Fuck Is Wrong With You and explain to them, with puppets as needed, why they are so horribly, terribly wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (Gk3SS)

212 I don't think anyone has to be afraid we're suddenly nominating this guy. Again, over two years away.

But he's a guy who just released a really good first song. So sure, I'd like to hear his album.

Let's hear his album. Let's hope he puts out an album.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (LCRYB)

213 I came from one of the schools he temp'ed at before he moved on. Fantastic recruiter. Decent coach. Complete in it for me mercenary.

Like Weber a lot more.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 11, 2013 09:30 PM (KjlbF)

214 Dr Carson cut off my foot for Insurance money! Eleventy!11!!111

Posted by: Media Operative Number 2 at February 11, 2013 09:30 PM (jucos)

215 180 a guy can dream can't he?


Heh as flattering or not as your posit is...I suspect the gentleman would not appreciate my "talents."

Also as my son shows more maturity I plan to exert as much effort as I can on getting back to legitimate professional full time work that will drain my free time.

I miss my work as a contract logistics guy, and if I could get my old gig jetsetting with high priority hazardous material I would in a heartbeat.

The doc's a good fella if nothing else, and I am too angry to get back soccer moms.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2013 09:30 PM (LRFds)

216

Might be a one hit wonder.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 09:30 PM (DAoux)

217 squids are the polymorphously perverse joyboys of the cephalopod family

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 09:30 PM (LCRYB)

218 I would prefer Dr. Carson head up the newly formed division of What The Fuck Is Wrong With You at the GOP. The WTF division will be responsible for listening to consultants explain their grand plans and schemes and then will reply What The Fuck Is Wrong With You and explain to them, with puppets as needed, why they are so horribly, terribly wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (Gk3SS)


Democrats could do with a bit of that instruction as well.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 09:31 PM (Qxe/p)

219 Also I am reliably informed that Dr. Carson is Team Squid.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at February 11, 2013 09:31 PM (Gk3SS)

220 ...a really good first song...

Well put!

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:31 PM (mkb9H)

221 Squids, the honey badgers of the sea!

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (wR+pz)


O Rly?

Posted by: Sperm Whale at February 11, 2013 09:31 PM (Vk2pI)

222 @212- nice analogy ace. We should make sure he's not a one hit wonder. Plenty of time for that though.

Posted by: teej at February 11, 2013 09:32 PM (k4ET0)

223 do not learn the vital political skills of shit-eating, groveling, pandering, and lying for advancement in a bureaucratic situation

You forgot selling Mom to white slaver traders in exchange for 10 seconds of national media exposure.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at February 11, 2013 09:32 PM (EZl54)

224 The WTF division will be responsible for listening to consultants explain their grand plans and schemes and then will reply What The Fuck Is Wrong With You and explain to them, with puppets as needed, why they are so horribly, terribly wrong.

Football season is over. Maybe Keyshawn Johnson could do his "C'mon Man!!" bit for the RNC

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:32 PM (hsRr9)

225 I would prefer Dr. Carson head up the newly formed division of What The Fuck Is Wrong With You at the GOP.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (Gk3SS)


I want to be on the Throw All The Bums Out subcommittee.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:32 PM (bxiXv)

226 The Constitution of the US of A does not require that the President be but 35 years of age and a natural born citizen.

Is there something I missed, like an Ivy League degree?

No. The latter I consider to be a minus to the point of being disqualified at this point. All of our last 4 or 5 Presidents have been from the Ivy League and they have all been perfectly disastrous. Time to change course.

Posted by: navybrat at February 11, 2013 09:33 PM (pr0Ow)

227 Dr Carson is Vanilla Ice? Biz Markee?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:33 PM (jucos)

228
I wonder who would win in a fight, a Flying Squid or a Nog?

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 09:33 PM (XLuH2)

229 Squids, the honey badgers of the sea!
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (wR+pz)


I thought barracudas were the honey badgers.

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:33 PM (mkb9H)

230
are squids weasels.....discuss


I believe weasels are a type of land squid.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (0WLla)

231 "The Constitution of the US of A does not require that the President be 'anything but' 35 years of age and a natural born citizen."

Sorry for the double negative....

Posted by: navybrat at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (pr0Ow)

232
Think about why Dr. Carson gets under zero's skin so much. There are so many parallels/distinctions it's unbelievable.

Dr. Carson's father left him and his mother. Dr. Carson grew up from nothing in crushing poverty. Dr. Carson is not half-white. Dr. Carson's mother had a 3rd grade education and could not read. Dr. Carson grew up in the ghetto of Detroit. Dr. Carson has become a first rate physician. Dr. Carson has accomplished amazing goals. Dr. Carson was the first one EVER to successfully separate siamese twins due to an innovation he realized. Dr. Carson is an amazing scholar, and it shows, and he EARNED it.

Compare this to zero. His father left him. He is half-white. Despite international travels early, he was raised by his white mother and his white grandparents. He was raised in an upper-middle class environment and went to private school in Hawaii. His accomplishments are first "black" editor of the Harvard Law Review. Then nothing. Community organizer. Then Senator in an uncontested race. Then we get to President, where anyone who was not a Republican would win in 2008. I give him credit for 2012, but not too much.

Then contrast and compare the men's views. Dr. Carson has every reason to be bitter. Every reason to blame everything on class, race, lack of opportunity. But he is a shining example of everything that is America. A BRIGHT LIGHT that is not bitter, does not want to "hurt" those are successful.

Zero has done nothing but demogague and push failed policies that are known will fail. Class divides. Racial divides. He has done more to divide this country and put the boot of government down on everyone.

That is why zero hates Dr. Carson. Dr. Carson's very existence gives the lie to Zero's concocted "persona" and "ideas."

To the point, THESE ARE THE CANDIDATES/PEOPLE WE NEED. Candidates whose very existence refute the fucking usual attacks by these cocksuckers in the media.

I'm not sure why I need to keep pounding the table on this. How do you punch through the buffers of the usual MSM attacks on any conservative candidate. DESTROY THEIR ORIGINAL MESSAGE WITH YOUR CANDIDATE'S FACE. Only then do we reach the American people because their schtick will be seen as shallow and bullshit.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (8AMq+)

233 Dr Carson is Young MC?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (jucos)

234 I want to be on the Throw All The Bums Out subcommittee.

I volunteer for the Comforting Hawt Twentysomething Staffers Subcommittee.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (hsRr9)

235 Squids, the honey badgers of the sea! Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:29 PM (wR+pz)
O Rly?
Posted by: Sperm Whale at February 11, 2013 09:31 PM (Vk2pI)


Bitch, please.

Posted by: Great White Shark at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (TLezx)

236 Ben is an unknown quantity. The man keeps his mouth shut throughout a medical career, taunts Obama, and now he is our savior?

I'd be more impressed if he were in the middle of his career rather than ending it saying the same things.

I can site at least one example of writers (there are probably plenty more in the journalism as well as the political fields) who have burst onto the conservative scene touting their bonifides only to go stupid, all because the liberal side was too crowded and they would not stand out had they started that direction.

The doc is a loser, count on it.

Posted by: badanov at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (9F0nX)

237 "Get Sarah Palin to have a heart-to-heart with Carson to tell him EXACTLY what the scum in the MFM are capable of. He needs balls and spine of steel to survive their filth."

My thoughts exactly. To wrestle power from the elites one has to be willing to get down in the mud. Reagan knew this from years of holding power in an executive office. Dr. Carson has had a career inspiring those who wanted to be inspired. He hasn't had to cope with the OWS crowd.

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (0b17P)

238 Squids vs Honey Badgers. Suckers vs claws.



Animal Chanel during POTUS speech.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (wR+pz)

239 What does Dr. Carson know about flying squid and when did he know it?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 11, 2013 09:36 PM (6IKyK)

240
Well, Mr. Ace, it's got a nice beat and it's easy to dance to. Lyrics are clear with a good message.

I'd give it an 83.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 09:36 PM (+z4pE)

241 I did NOT know Honey Bagders could fly.

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 09:36 PM (XLuH2)

242 This was him being interviewed on Fox last July....video isn't great quality but he seems consistent.




http://tinyurl.com/b7nxwd5

Posted by: Tami at February 11, 2013 09:36 PM (X6akg)

243 241
I did NOT know Honey Bagders could fly.

Its all that loose skin around their necks. They dynamically reconfigure it into delta wings. Their whiskers are like canards.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 11, 2013 09:37 PM (KjlbF)

244 >I did NOT know Honey Bagders could fly.

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 09:36 PM (XLuH2)

As God is my witness...

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 09:37 PM (8sCoq)

245 As an aside. Dr Carson is a good bit smarter than Saracuda, and I love me some Saracuda.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:37 PM (jucos)

246 168
According to FEC records Dr. Carson has donated only to Democrats in the past.


Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 11, 2013 09:18 PM (als/Z)
Liar. (Yes, I checked.)

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 09:37 PM (Su0W2)

247 I volunteer for the Comforting Hawt Twentysomething Staffers Subcommittee.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (hsRr9)



Bannion, you're getting nobility everywhere.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at February 11, 2013 09:38 PM (Gk3SS)

248 241
I did NOT know Honey Bagders could fly.

You ain't never had one chasing have you?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 11, 2013 09:38 PM (6IKyK)

249 Dr. Carson was as a young man, a dancer for Parliament-Funkadelic, then became (for a short period of time) one of the 245 members of teh Wu Tang.

Posted by: Check Yoself B4 U Wreck Yoself at February 11, 2013 09:38 PM (d4vjp)

250 Liar. (Yes, I checked.)
Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 09:37 PM (Su0W2)


Goes without saying.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:38 PM (bxiXv)

251
Bitch, please.

Posted by: Great White Shark at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (TLezx)

Come on down big fella, I got something for you to suck on.





http://tinyurl.com/bh79bm6

Posted by: Giant Squid at February 11, 2013 09:38 PM (wR+pz)

252 Bannion, you're getting nobility everywhere.

I have studied at the feet of the Master.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:39 PM (hsRr9)

253 I volunteer for the Comforting Hawt Twentysomething Staffers Subcommittee.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (hsRr9)


Dude, if that's not *every* subcommittee, we're doing something seriously wrong.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:39 PM (bxiXv)

254 Liar. (Yes, I checked.)

Clarence's MO is to lie about everything.

Fits in well with the fuckhead he voted for.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 11, 2013 09:39 PM (6DlI7)

255 ...The latter I consider to be a minus to the point of being disqualified at this point. All of our last 4 or 5 Presidents have been from the Ivy League and they have all been perfectly disastrous. Time to change course.
Posted by: navybrat at February 11, 2013 09:33 PM (pr0Ow)


I keep saying that the Senate needs more men & women that have actually pumped their own gas, and have gone to the grocery, and hardware store lately. That and actually hunted and shopped at the Wal-Mart. Plus military service and (not leaving the ladies out) been in the "Scouts".

...And have met a payroll, and signed the checks.

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (mkb9H)

256 Dammit to hell. My husband is snoring like a sonofabitch.

I considered putting a pillow....gently...over his face, and decided against.

Dammit all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (UOM48)

257
Well its going to be some battle I can tell you that. Fur against slime, claw against tentacles.It WILL be EPIC!

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (XLuH2)

258 In the 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama called Cayman Island investments "the biggest tax scam on record." Now, in 2013, President Obama has nominated Jack Lew, who had $56,000 in Cayman Island investments, to be the next secretary of Treasury.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (e8kgV)

259 What does he think about "rape babies"?

That needs to be the fist question asked of any candidate.

Anyone who gets it wrong needs to be purged from politics

Posted by: OPolitical Ghost of Todd Akin at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (Vk2pI)

260 Imagine Giant Humbolt Flying Squid.

On DC.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:41 PM (UOM48)

261 Candygram...

Posted by: Land squid at February 11, 2013 09:41 PM (8sCoq)

262 Allah is an asshole. Nothing but douche bags at Hotair.

Posted by: Alans at February 11, 2013 09:41 PM (V2OI+)

263 #232

If you recall an earlier thread this weekend, Carson is Booker T. Washington and Obama is W.E.B. DuBois.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 11, 2013 09:41 PM (xSegX)

264 Great White Shark.
Heh, you funny guy.

Posted by: That's Mr. Orca to you at February 11, 2013 09:41 PM (8nDPF)

265 263
Posted by: Beazlebub

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at February 11, 2013 09:42 PM (0WLla)

266 Clarence's MO is to lie about everything.

When you have facts, pound the facts. When you have the law, pound the law. When you have neither, get pounded in the ass.

This explains much about the trolls here.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:42 PM (hsRr9)

267

"What does he think about "rape babies"?


What about horseman babies?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 09:42 PM (DAoux)

268 Dammit to hell. My husband is snoring like a sonofabitch.I considered putting a pillow....gently...over his face, and decided against.Dammit all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (UOM4


Your restraint is an inspiration to all of us, Jane.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 09:42 PM (TLezx)

269 Phil Bronstein who wrote the Esquire SEAL article on Hannity now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:42 PM (UOM48)

270 Hey about this squid hunting thing before they ban it, I have a few questions.

When's open season?

Do you need a License?

Is there a limit?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (cCxiu)

271 Posted by: prescient11 at February 11, 2013 09:34 PM (8AMq+)

This.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (Su0W2)

272 Whether or ot he wants it, a meeting with Darth Cheney at some isolated fly fishing resort would put the press into a low boil.

Posted by: Jean at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (uRbX6)

273 ...and I love me some Saracuda.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:37 PM (jucos)

"Saracuda". Love That!

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (mkb9H)

274 260 Imagine Giant Humbolt Flying Squid.

On
the DNC.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:41 PM (UOM4
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FIFY

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (o45Nv)

275
A kick ass principled speech from a Carson would have been perfect

10 MONTHS AGO

Project ORCA geniuses never once data-mined a conservative , black chief neurosurgeon at a prestigious hospital with a gift for public speaking ?



#GOPwinning


Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (EZl54)

276 I considered putting a pillow....gently...over his face, and decided against.

Might be time for a call to cpap.com

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (hsRr9)

277
Jane. squid in the face, will do the job. It will look like and accident. Happens all the time.

Posted by: Guido at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (XLuH2)

278 #255

I'll settle for somebody who can prove they passed calculus.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (xSegX)

279 If Dr. Carson really wants to throw his hat in the ring and run for office, I hope he's making plans to relocate to a red state when he retires. Because right now he's in Baltimore. I don't care if he's black Albert Einstein, he will not be elected to a statewide office in MD as a Republican.

And yeah, while I'm very impressed with him, after my excitement over Palin, Rubio, Christie, Ryan etc...I am being cautious now. Because even if he is everything we hope he is, the MSM will go all out to destroy him. (He does not believe in macroevolution. Whatever his reasoning for that is, you can be sure the MSM will pounce on that and paste the "anti-science religious nut" label on this fine surgeon. ) And we know the MSM still has the power to destroy.

Posted by: Donna V. at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (BStAJ)

280 Barry will soon be telling us he goes squid hunting "all the time."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:44 PM (UOM48)

281 What about horseman babies?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 09:42 PM (DAoux)


Like these: http://tinyurl.com/8g9tumj

Posted by: Not a centaur at February 11, 2013 09:44 PM (Vk2pI)

282 Bye Mr sock

Posted by: teej at February 11, 2013 09:44 PM (8nDPF)

283 256 Dammit to hell. My husband is snoring like a sonofabitch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (UOM4


Has he been tested for apnea yet?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:44 PM (bxiXv)

284
Giant horror squid.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2013 09:45 PM (DAoux)

285 Dr. Ben Carson's Getting Buzz

Hey, I'm getting buzzed too!

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 11, 2013 09:45 PM (b0PfQ)

286 just how desperate are we ? so carson gives one speech that we kinda liked/agreed with and, therefore, he should be president ?!?

Posted by: el polacko at February 11, 2013 09:45 PM (OcNv4)

287 256
Dammit to hell. My husband is snoring like a sonofabitch.

I considered putting a pillow....gently...over his face, and decided against.

Dammit all.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (UOM4

Try this Jane, I think it's Valu Rite in a spray bottle. Nice photo of you in the ad, he he.

http://tinyurl.com/aeamqds

Posted by: Giant Squid at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (wR+pz)

288 When was the last President that we had that did NOT issue from the Ivy League? Was it Lincoln or maybe Andrew Jackson?

Maybe it was Johnson.

The rest have been disasters.

Posted by: navybrat at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (pr0Ow)

289 Off Squid sock!

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (wR+pz)

290 link to Dr. Carson's political contributions.

http://tinyurl.com/a2rqvfc


Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (als/Z)

291 Might be time for a call to cpap.com
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (hsRr9)
----------------------------------------------------
Saved my life.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (jucos)

292 He's got my vote! Actually, pretty much anybody whose name is not Ofuckstick has my vote.

Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (kpCLl)

293 and decided against...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:40 PM (UOM4

Bless your heart. But, yeah. got "relegated" to the couch, after late Friday night/Am on the ONT...

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (mkb9H)

294 Has he been tested for apnea yet?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:44 PM (bxiXv

No. His fucking doc tells him he's "just fine." Can't wait for Barackycare to kick in.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:47 PM (UOM48)

295 Hollywood shootout on Encore right now

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 11, 2013 09:47 PM (8sCoq)

296
Because even if he is everything we hope he is, the MSM will go all out to destroy him. (He does not believe in macroevolution. Whatever his reasoning for that is, you can be sure the MSM will pounce on that and paste the "anti-science religious nut" label on this fine surgeon. ) And we know the MSM still has the power to destroy.

Actuall, that may not be the case in this case. He was out front first, he has a few books under his belt, a movie, and now a big speech in front of TFG and the national media. He's beaten them to the punch.

IMO, anything they said about him just might look pretty stupid, since he was out there first. He had command of his own image initially.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 09:47 PM (+z4pE)

297 288 When was the last President that we had that did NOT issue from the Ivy League? Was it Lincoln or maybe Andrew Jackson?

Maybe it was Johnson.

The rest have been disasters.
Posted by: navybrat at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (pr0Ow)
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Last non college POTUS was Harry Truman

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at February 11, 2013 09:47 PM (o45Nv)

298 D'Oh, did you try those breathe-right strips? They're pretty cool.

Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2013 09:48 PM (kpCLl)

299 No. The number of people whose first elective office was President of the US is pretty small. US Grant and Eisenhower. West Point graduates, and guys who had "won the Civil War" and "won World War II' on their respective resumes.

Now, I dont do pediatric neurosurgery (well, not all the time) so thats a pretty big deal on a personal level but i hardly think even the best darn conjoined twins separator in the whole wide world compares to leading Armies that vanquish existential threats decisively.

But good to see ace indulging in fantasy candidates, the Kate Upton prom dates that just arent going to happen. Yeah, but think if it did. Okay, pretty sweet, but you know she really isnt available for the prom.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2013 09:48 PM (/1U3u)

300 When was the last President that we had that did NOT issue from the Ivy League? Was it Lincoln or maybe Andrew Jackson?
-----------------------------------------------------
Ronald Wilson Reagan

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:48 PM (jucos)

301 Since this has been on topic for so long, let me say, I plugged my laptop into the 60 inch TV to see what would happen, and I get the poorly translated message box:

"An external device is connected
Do you want to enjoy this?"

I'm not sure I do want to "enjoy" external connections..

Posted by: Whatev at February 11, 2013 09:48 PM (A7Wh1)

302 Maybe it's because macro evolution is exactly that. A belief system. It sure isn't based on science.

Posted by: teej at February 11, 2013 09:48 PM (ZA2xI)

303 Crap, here, somebody put this "Y" in that last comment. Anywhere will be fine.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 11, 2013 09:49 PM (+z4pE)

304 294Has he been tested for apnea yet?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:44 PM (bxiXv

No. His fucking doc tells him he's "just fine." Can't wait for Barackycare to kick in. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:47 PM (UOM4tell the Doc to come sleep over soem night and then tell you he's fine.

Posted by: Sq-guido at February 11, 2013 09:49 PM (XLuH2)

305 No. His fucking doc tells him he's "just fine." Can't wait for Barackycare to kick in.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:47 PM (UOM4


What the fuck? Does his doctor have X-Ray vision?

People do know the end point of untreated apnea, don't they? I was diagnosed when I was 33 years old. You know who diagnosed me? Me. Verfied with a proper test, doctors weren't about to see it on their own like Star Trek.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 11, 2013 09:49 PM (bxiXv)

306
Well no, not President of course. But a valued member of the discussion. For outreach programs. Community halls in minority neighborhoods. Discussion of voucher systems, getting our kids out of failed schools.

This is the shit that the GOP needs to fucking be involved in big time. Dr. Carson can speak to it because HE WAS THERE.

As far as a Senator or representative, I would say he is FAR MORE qualified than zero ever was.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 11, 2013 09:49 PM (8AMq+)

307 No. His fucking doc tells him he's "just fine." Can't wait for Barackycare to kick in.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:47 PM (UOM4


My wife has made the outrageous claim that I snore.
I merely tell her that even if it were true, if she'd go to sleep, it wouldn't bother her.

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Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 11, 2013 09:50 PM (Qxe/p)

308 "An external device is connected Do you want to enjoy this?"

Ah yes, the boot up message on the Kate Upton 4000 SexBot.

Posted by: Sean Bannion, External Device. at February 11, 2013 09:50 PM (hsRr9)

309 298
D'Oh, did you try those breathe-right strips? They're pretty cool.


Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2013 09:48 PM (kpCLl

Yeah, he's done that. "Amazingly" when he loses weight, the snoring stops. He's on a weight-loss plan. I have no idea what it is.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:50 PM (UOM48)

310 298 D'Oh, did you try those breathe-right strips? They're pretty cool.
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2013 09:48 PM (kpCLl)

Peachy! Heidi hi!
Love the "Breathe Right".

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:50 PM (mkb9H)

311 Last non Ivy Preezy was Reagan. Eureka College. But between Kennedy and Reagan all non Ivy Leaguers Ike was from West Point (see above).

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2013 09:50 PM (/1U3u)

312 just how desperate are we ? so carson gives one speech that we kinda liked/agreed with and, therefore, he should be president ?!?

No, I don't think anyone is suggesting that. We obviously don't know enough about him. It's just amazement and gratitude that this cocksucking Kenyan crackhead got told off to his face.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 11, 2013 09:51 PM (TLezx)

313 Dammit, I really want to finish American Sniper. Gah. The snoring.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:52 PM (UOM48)

314 He's on a weight-loss plan. I have no idea what it is.

Sounds like The Seefood Diet.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:52 PM (hsRr9)

315 Yeah, he's done that. "Amazingly" when he loses weight, the snoring
stops. He's on a weight-loss plan. I have no idea what it is.

Pretty sure that's apnea. It's not something that afflicts the scrawny. My best advice is to get tough with the doc. I personally will not work with or give money to a doctor who brushes me off. Have had some weird shit and if I hadn't kept pursuing it and going to another and another and another, I would not have had the satisfactory result. This is MY body and MY problem and if you don't take it seriously, you're fired.

Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2013 09:52 PM (kpCLl)

316 Jane D'oh, I had the same problem with my beloved hubby. I bought the nasal things for him ( forget what they're called, but they are strips like bandaids that hold open the nasal passages) and he hated them. Fight, fight, fight. Refusal after one night. Now he doesn't snore! I don't know why. He didn't lose weight or anything. It was weird. I think that his just knowing that it was bothering me so much made him reposition himself, or wake himself up to reposition himself. My first husband hated sleeping with me after I had eaten garlic (every day). He would sleep elsewhere or sleep with his head at the foot of the bed. It's been almost 20 years, and I still sleep with my index finger "closing" my lips, so I don't breathe my hideous garlic breath on present husband. The point is, subconscious methods work.

Posted by: kalneva at February 11, 2013 09:53 PM (S+/pH)

317 Sean Bannion, heh. I make salads and low fat meals. He admits he eats crap for lunch.

*beats head against desk*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:53 PM (UOM48)

318 Jane, hit the valu rite and go to bed. Next time hide it from him.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:53 PM (wR+pz)

319 275
A kick ass principled speech from a Carson would have been perfect

10 MONTHS AGO

Project ORCA geniuses never once data-mined a conservative , black chief neurosurgeon at a prestigious hospital with a gift for public speaking ?

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at February 11, 2013 09:43 PM (EZl54)

Has SCOAMF/T attended a National Prayer function before? He usually avoids these Jesus things; presumably to dodge the "stray" lightening bolt that might be sent his way.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 09:54 PM (Su0W2)

320
used to market apnea devices. Weight and alcohol the docs say can cause it.

Posted by: Sq-guido at February 11, 2013 09:54 PM (XLuH2)

321 318
Jane, hit the valu rite and go to bed. Next time hide it from him.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:53 PM (wR+pz

I'm way ahead of you. Hitting the vodka at the wet bar.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:55 PM (UOM48)

322 Ronald Wilson Reagan
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 11, 2013 09:48 PM (jucos)

I have been doing "a thing" in the last week (actually on Ronnie's birthday) on the '64 Goldwater speech. "A Time For Choosing". It sounds exactly like he's talking about "today".

Here is a link to the full transcript:
http://www.nationalcenter.org/ReaganChoosing1964.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pbp0hur9RU

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:55 PM (mkb9H)

323 Jane, I am using a mouthpiece called Pure Sleep. When you get it, you put it in hot water and then bite down on it to mold it to your teeth. When I wear it - no snoring. I don't even notice it when I sleep. Mrs 'dib is well pleased.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (KjlbF)

324 Wow, I must type slowly! Breathe Rite! That's what they were called!
Hello, everyone!

Posted by: kalneva at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (S+/pH)

325 Yeah, he's done that. "Amazingly" when he loses
weight, the snoring stops. He's on a weight-loss plan. I have no idea
what it is.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:50 PM (UOM4
I was going to mention that. When I exercise and get down to my fighting weight I don't snore.
Does he, by any chance have DSB???
Deadly Sperm Buildup?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (wR+pz)

326 ONT up

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (hsRr9)

327 >>>just how desperate are we ? so carson gives one speech that we kinda liked/agreed with and, therefore, he should be president ?!?

I'm not saying that and I don't think "we," collectively, on the Give Carson a Chance side are saying that.

We're saying we'd like to hear more, to have all these other position boxes filled, to see what he's got.

Hey, when a receiver with world-class track speed and soft hands walks on to your camp without being invited you don't just throw him off because he doesn't have prior credentials.

You put him through the combine. You see what he's got.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (LCRYB)

328 Oh, hey, for you vodka lovers out there (I know there are a few), I was told today that the Kirkland brand of vodka at the Costco (made in France) is actually Grey Goose. No lie. I don't drink hard booze, but this was cool enough to share.

Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (kpCLl)

329 I'm running out of metaphors like a "flying" squid running out of asshole propellent.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (LCRYB)

330 288 When was the last President that we had that did NOT issue from the Ivy League? Was it Lincoln or maybe Andrew Jackson?

Maybe it was Johnson.

The rest have been disasters.

Posted by: navybrat at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (pr0Ow)

Some guy named Reagan. And I agree with the last sentence.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 09:57 PM (Su0W2)

331 Does he, by any chance have DSB???
Deadly Sperm Buildup?



Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (wR+pz

Oh, hellz yeah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:57 PM (UOM48)

332 329
I'm running out of metaphors like a "flying" squid running out of asshole propellent.

Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (LCRYB

Are we sure they propel out of their assholes or their mouths?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 09:58 PM (UOM48)

333 290 link to Dr. Carson's political contributions.

http://tinyurl.com/a2rqvfc

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 11, 2013 09:46 PM (als/Z)

And he donated to Steve Forbes (R) in 1999, some guy named Thomas (D) in 2002, Bartlett (R) in 2012, and Romney (R) in 2012.

Since you sad that he only donates to Democrats, that still makes you a liar.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 10:02 PM (Su0W2)

334 If Govenor O'Malley is the dem nominee, Caron wins. I'm certain there is more then one instance of that deusch on camera profusely praising Dr. Carson at a Baltimore area awards event. All we'd have to do is play the clips of the democrat candidate saying how AMAZING and ACCOMPLISHED his Republican opponent is and leave it there.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 11, 2013 10:03 PM (UOjzE)

335 Hey, when a receiver with world-class track speed and soft hands walks on to your camp without being invited you don't just throw him off because he doesn't have prior credentials. You put him through the combine. You see what he's got.
Posted by: ace at February 11, 2013 09:56 PM (LCRYB)


You do that at baseball training camp though. They'll toss you out and the bed you're sleeping on too.

Posted by: Willie Mayes Hayes at February 11, 2013 10:03 PM (GULKT)

336 Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 10:02 PM (Su0W2



Thanks for that. I'll forward to my idiot family and friends. {{hugs}]

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 11, 2013 10:04 PM (UOM48)

337 @319

point taken.

But you'd think that one of the GOP folks in charge of conservative talent spotting would have read his book or something?

His speech will make a nice soothing sound track for The Burning Time.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at February 11, 2013 10:04 PM (EZl54)

338 baldi-

I linked you my source. There were no (R) contributions on it.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 11, 2013 10:05 PM (als/Z)

339 receiver with world-class track speed and soft hands walks on to your camp without being invited

Welcome to my alibi .

Posted by: Harry "Searchlight" Reid at February 11, 2013 10:08 PM (EZl54)

340
338 baldi-I linked you my source. There were no (R) contributions on it.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 11, 2013 10:05 PM (als/Z)


But you're a dishonest stupid fuck that couldn't crawl out of a paper bag that's laying on its side let alone properly utilize the internet. There's no reason to trust your information dumbass.

Posted by: buzzion at February 11, 2013 10:10 PM (GULKT)

341 338 baldi-I linked you my source. There were no (R) contributions on it.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 11, 2013 10:05 PM (als/Z)

http://www.campaignmoney.com/download.asp

You source has one person he donated $250 in 2005.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 10:17 PM (Su0W2)

342 @331

Well, there is your problem. You know the cure!

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at February 11, 2013 10:18 PM (wR+pz)

343 {{ Jane D'oh}}

Posted by: baldilocks at February 11, 2013 10:18 PM (Su0W2)

344 177---"I heard Ken Cuccinelli the VA AG on Levin on the way home, and although I'm from NC, I going to send the guy a little bit of money for his Gubernatorial run. "
Posted by: Capt. Backfire at February 11, 2013 09:20 PM (mkb9H)

Speaking as a Virginian, THANK YOU.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2013 10:20 PM (C8mVl)

345 Little VIA has had educational issues for several years. As well as the standard 14 year old attitude about listening to adults.
Anyhow, I asked him to sit down and watch the 27minute video of the good doctor at the prayer breakfast.
He actually sat down and watched it from one end to the other, and than commented on how much the doctors story showed how applying yourself can really answer many problems in life.
And then when he found out that some of our friends are personal friends of the Doctor, and work with him at Hopkins, it became "I would really like to meet him"
May not mean a bucket of warm spit.
Just thought I would mention it..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2013 10:38 PM (bTPOR)

346 Carson's pointed speech made me squirm a little, but f*** it. We haven't gotten anywhere playing by the rules. I worry about his ability to lie or otherwise pander effectively.
He's probably 40 IQ points smarter than Cain or Palin. Even though he's Ivy League, he wasn't in their dumbed down poli-sci or history departments; that makes a big difference.
He struck me as very Reaganesque, with his story telling and natural warmth. If he has the killer instinct, and his speech in front of O'Buckwad suggests that he does, he may be a player.

Posted by: Jim Flimsey at February 11, 2013 10:53 PM (T9V22)

347 I would rather have voted for him in the last four two presidential elections than any of the clowns we had running.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 11, 2013 11:10 PM (YQIeq)

348 *last four presidential elections

Posted by: NWConservative at February 11, 2013 11:11 PM (YQIeq)

349 I haven't been boo'ed here for a while. Here goes. First and foremost. IT IS THE LEFTIES THAT DREAM OF, CREATE, AND VOTE FOR SAVIORS!!!!!!.
Notwe on the conservative or libertarianside of the equation. I really like Dr. Carson. He has had an amazing life and and impressive career. He seems like a truly remarkable man. And he seems to be a very compassionate man as well. Great Guy. I'd love to have a glass of bourbon with him.
However. One of his ideas that is getting the most press is the idea of a lifetime personal health savings account. Great idea! I agree. People should realize that like all services and goods, health care is a consumable which has a cost associated with it. But. He says. If someone doeasn't have/can't afford to fund their own account. Well. We simply use all of the extra dollars we have laying around to fund it for them. Easy, peasy, lemon squeazy. "WOW". Was the response. What a great "free market solution". Free market my ass. What about those who can't afford a plan? ( And who in their right mind would admit to being able to afford to fund their own plan?)
What dollars? I ask. Are you talking about all those extra tax dollars? Do you mean all those tax dollars that were taken by the "Imperial Federal Gov't thru thecoersive use of force? Those dollars? Well, excuse me, but shouldn't those dollars be returned to the rightful owners? The hard-working, righteous folk who earned them thru the sweat of their brow. The responsible people who pay their own way only to see the fruit of their labor stripped away to pay for the "needs" of the less fortunate?Those dollars?
Look. I like this guy. I like his Moxie. He showed some real balls to give that speach in front of the "Resident" of the United States. I'm impressed. And awed. But I think we need to learn a bit more about him before we declare him to be the 3rd coming. (Obama Tyrannis Rex is a solid second place).
I don't know who will be the next President. I assume, unless you know something I don't, that it will again be Obama, Tyrannis Rex. I say that because it is clear that the last free Presidential election we held in this country was in 2008. I'm pretty sure it won't be Dr. Carson. I could be wrong, but before we go all slobbery on this guy we owe it to ourselves to do some due diligence.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at February 11, 2013 11:44 PM (60WUU)

350 I liked the speech a lot. And I don't care if he runs for public office or not. What we need are people that can articulately explain conservative principles. He does that very well. (And I like what he said about lawyers in office.) Would it matter if he ran as a D or R? We need conservatives and we need them in any position we can get them in. We especially need people that can respectfully disagree with the other side.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 12, 2013 12:11 AM (Lqy/e)

351 Ace said: There's a big exception to this rule, however. People who are vastly
accomplished what we might call Heroic Fields (military, and, yes,
medicine, I'd argue) do in fact have all the "gravitas"

We said Ace. This is absolutely true.

What is also true is that Mitt Romney is not only one of the most esteemed businessmen of his generation, but one of the most genuine men left.

Dr. Carson falls into the same catagory; except we trade off the widely applicable fields of business and economics for the esoteric field of neurosurgery. I work in neurobiology, I know the blank stares.


At the end of the day, all the careful candidate picking on the national stage is for naught until we recognize and fight for the one true battlefield where the mass populace is brainwashed -- the media.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 12, 2013 12:20 AM (jhI6f)

352 In the post-Obama era, ANYBODY can run for President. If we can't understand that, woe to us. It's disturbing to see how many conservatives at Hot Air can't even conceive of Carson running, or deciding already that he doesn't have the requisite credentials.

Posted by: rrpjr at February 12, 2013 01:37 AM (fB56Y)

353
I could wish that more people were as openhonest as what Dr.Carson says publicly.Not be afraid of doing it,either!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is so refreshingit comes across at that Prayer Breakfast.Originally as many I saw a small sample(clip form).C-Span reaired it early Monday morning in its entirety.Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.LIz

Posted by: Mary Liz Danuser at February 12, 2013 02:40 AM (UoE+/)

354
When I say "people have already called him The General Eisenhower of pediatric neurosurgery" I meant me. I'm a people. But you guessed that.

You're not people. You're a non-fucking Ewok. You know this to be true.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at February 12, 2013 09:59 AM (1hM1d)

355
Well damn, I missed a tag.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at February 12, 2013 09:59 AM (1hM1d)

356 What? Alan Keyes and Herman Cain aren't available? I don't get this obsession. Sorry.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 12, 2013 10:36 AM (wbmaj)

357 The best thing we need in a top man is one who knows his limits. Who a person hires is who they are. OBUMMER COS- Valerie Rat Jarrett, Hagel, Hillary, Kerry, Brennan, Chu, Lisa (pig) Jackson. All of these people are destroyers. That is all you need to know about Obama. Even when the 3 am phone call came they all went AWOL.

Posted by: madamex at February 12, 2013 10:55 AM (+kvQd)

358 Call me cynical, but after he took the low-information voters to the proverbial shed? I'm not so sure.

Oh he's absolutely correct that poor education and people sitting on their behinds waiting for Big Daddy to issue them Obamaphones are a large part of why things are going to pot, but these same people have an abundance of self-esteem, meaning they dislike being called B.S. on. No self-worth, no self-respect, but plenty of self-esteem.

He's just what the country needs. Unfortunately, there's also an abundance of children masquerading as adults who want to avoid taking their medicine and want more pie, incapable of thinking of tomorrow as an inevitability. I don't want to get "stood up" again, so to speak.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at February 12, 2013 03:52 PM (mMtFx)

359
Allahpundit thinks he doesn't have a chance?

That's enough of a ringing endorsement for me. Carson's the man for the job.

Posted by: NotAMoose at February 12, 2013 04:14 PM (ZZg4j)






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