On Pretexts & Planted Questions

Twice (I think) I've been asked to take part in a pretext situation. Someone in some other media wanted to ask a question of someone, but didn't want it to appear that they were pushing the question or the story, so they asked me to write up the story.

The idea is to make it appear that the question or story is just bubbling up organically, and hide the actual author (mover) of the question. The actual author can then run a post in which it appears he's actually just referencing other people's interest in the story -- "Blogs are chattering about X...."

But, point is, he actually asked for the chatter.

Just so you know, I declined to perform this service on both occasions. Don't think I'm moral or anything -- I'm just lazy. I never feel like doing anything, particularly "helping" other people. If I wanted to "help people" I'd've joineed the Peace Fucking Corps.

The reason I bring this up is because I'm pretty certain this is common -- SOP -- in the media.

And in politics.

Let me give you a completely hypothetical example.

Let's say a politician -- we'll call him Mob Benendez -- is asked by a rich donor friend -- let's call him Malomon Selegn -- for a political favor.

"Why, I can't do that!" Mob exclaims. "It's plain that we are very closely connected, and it is known -- or could be known, if the media still did stories on such things -- that you are my biggest-dollar donor. Why, if I did a favor for you, it would obviously be a favor for you. It would stink of dealing on behalf of a close crony."

"Aw shucks," Malomon says. "That's too bad. I really need someone to help me with this Sort Pecurity contract I have."

"But, on the other hand," Mob muses, "If you had some kind of media presence, and began agitating for action on your Sort Pecurity contract, then it might appear that the Voice of the People had for some reason begun shouting about this Sort Pecurity contract, you know, all passionate about it, and if that were to happen, then maybe I could call some people in the Date Stepartment to pressure the Rominican Depublic to honor your crooked contract."

"Don't say crooked," Malomon says.

"Fine," Mob says. "Your 'fair and legal contract,' we'll say. Wink."

"LOL!"

"Wink, LOL!"

"LOL!" Malomon says again. "Is it really that easy?! All I need to do is gin up a fake 'grassroots' campaign about my individual business woes and then you can use the full power of the Smerican Aenate to do Fersonal Pavors for a Mig Doney Donor?"

"It's really that easy," Mob says. "You just have to make it look like other people are asking for it."

I mention this because of two facts.

Fact One: Malomon -- I mean, Salomon Melgen -- used his "Latino news site" to agitate for action on a port security contract that I'm pretty sure no Latinos not named "Salomon Melgen" cared about.

In addition to the security company, in 2011 Dr. Melgen founded a Latino-oriented news Web site, Voxxi, which has also emphasized the need for the port security deal and glowingly depicted Mr. Menendez as a giant among Latinos. A former employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of career damage, said Dr. Melgen would often intervene in the coverage, requiring editors to play down achievements by Republicans like Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and replace it with praise for Mr. Menendez.

Which in turn provided some cover for Menendez actively campaigning on Melgen's behalf both behind-the-scenes with State Department officials and also in front of the scenes, badgering State Department witnesses about the matter in open hearings.

Fact Two: Melgen apparently started an astroturf campaign to make Bank of America a political issue. And it just so happened that Melgen had a lawsuit against Bank of America when he did this. And it just so happens that legislators maybe can rough up a big bank and maybe threaten a breakup if they're not appeased.

I suppose this is all so obvious most people don't even bother mentioning it.

But, while this point might be very obvious, at least I've gone on at great length about it.

Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White House?

Posted by: Ace at 03:32 PM



Comments

1 s

Posted by: mallfly at February 08, 2013 03:33 PM (bJm7W)

2 i meant firts

Posted by: mallfly at February 08, 2013 03:33 PM (bJm7W)

3 by the way, are we really talking about Obama and the land guy?

Posted by: mallfly at February 08, 2013 03:34 PM (bJm7W)

4 There are an infinite number of ways to be a crook.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at February 08, 2013 03:35 PM (QupBk)

5 gee, is the weather really that bad? Maybe I should go to the store and buy some more electricity before it all sells out

Posted by: mallfly at February 08, 2013 03:35 PM (bJm7W)

6 I think you already knew this and posted on it before.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at February 08, 2013 03:35 PM (X7MMs)

7 A Mob scene?

Posted by: dantesed at February 08, 2013 03:35 PM (xc6Ak)

8 re 4: but the safest way is to end your name with (D)

Posted by: mallfly at February 08, 2013 03:36 PM (bJm7W)

9 Just so you know, I declined to perform this service on both occasions. Don't think I'm moral or anything -- I'm just lazy. I never feel like doing anything, particularly "helping" other people. If I wanted to "help people" I'd've joineed the Peace Fucking Corps.

___________________

The Conversation.

The prosecution rests.

Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 03:37 PM (r2PLg)

10 Spoonerism, it's what's for brunch.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 08, 2013 03:37 PM (+z4pE)

11 Yes, at great and boring length. Can't you talk about the Kardashians?

Keep hammering Ace. The meme has to be that MENENDEZ IS A CROOK!

We must take off the gloves, and this is exactly what we need.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2013 03:38 PM (GsoHv)

12 No hypotheticals needed. As a political volunteer in the past, I was asked to do research on ACORN's operations in a particular location involving voter fraud, with the explicit intention of shopping the story to friendly "journalists."

Keep in mind that the story may have turned out to be well-supported in fact, but there was definitely an unspoken motive. And this was well before the time of blogs.

Posted by: assault flounder at February 08, 2013 03:38 PM (Kkt/i)

13 "If I wanted to 'help people' I'd've joineed the Peace Fucking Corps."

We have one of those? Where do I sign up!?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 08, 2013 03:38 PM (eHIJJ)

14 >>I'd've joineed the Peace Fucking Corps.

I kinda like the idea of fucking peace. Is she hot?

Wait! She has a whole corps devoted to fucking her? Is her real name Sandra Fluke?

Anyway, I'd've ne'er seen such double contractions before without coming here.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 08, 2013 03:39 PM (VjL9S)

15 re 11: presumed innocent until proven guilty, but where there's smoke and the stink of stuff burning...

Posted by: mallfly at February 08, 2013 03:39 PM (bJm7W)

16 media > mafia

Posted by: Potatoe Potato at February 08, 2013 03:39 PM (bGlsD)

17

"Teve Torbes, At, Dob Bole, Uchanan, Ucotos, Ucomos, Ucant, Teve, At, Bole, Dat, Boba Fet, Toni Kukoc, Bee-Bo-Bo, Lamar Alexander 2."

"Gentlemen, reactions?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 08, 2013 03:39 PM (kdS6q)

18 I think it's Peace Fucking Corpse, man.

Posted by: huerfano at February 08, 2013 03:40 PM (bAGA/)

19 The problem is Ace it works, and i am not sure we can keep ignoring "what works."

I meant what I asked for your thoughts on concerning returning to our pre-reform patronage roots the other night.

I'm just not sure the republic can survive two carnivorous parties.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 03:40 PM (LRFds)

20 Spoonerism:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJv_YXIXBsE

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 08, 2013 03:40 PM (+z4pE)

21 Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out, in both the media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White House?

Posted by Ace at 03:32 PM Comments


A Brazillion?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 08, 2013 03:40 PM (bxiXv)

22 What does Teve Torbes make of this?

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at February 08, 2013 03:40 PM (QupBk)

23 Its not really rape rape if go in the back door...

Posted by: Todd Akin at February 08, 2013 03:41 PM (+OTLF)

24 "the Peace Fucking Corps"? Isn't that what Menendez is presumed innocent but accused of?

Posted by: mallfly at February 08, 2013 03:41 PM (bJm7W)

25 crap, beaten to the the Teve Torbes.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at February 08, 2013 03:41 PM (QupBk)

26 Mob Benendez

So, so appropriate.

I'm not so much mad at the corrupt politicians as I am at the idiots who lobby for big government blissfully thinking that it's not just an expressway for corruption.

While the politicians and their well-connected friends get fancy cars and their kids go to fancy schools, all the rest of us are sacrificing to line their pockets.

The funny thing is that Menendez is just dumb enough to get caught. The real corruption is at the top.

Obama is Hans Gruber. We are suckered into thinking he's a terrorist, but he's just a thief.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2013 03:41 PM (T0NGe)

27 18 I think it's Peace Fucking Corpse, man.
Posted by: huerfano at February 08, 2013 03:40 PM (bAGA/)

_________________

I'm there!

Posted by: Roman Polanski needs new bridges! at February 08, 2013 03:41 PM (r2PLg)

28 Ace--out with it.

Who asked you to do the dirty?

Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 03:43 PM (r2PLg)

29
"...agitate for action"?

Agitating has always worked for me!

Posted by: The Bully known as Barky... at February 08, 2013 03:43 PM (BZMZX)

30 well sure, it's all about funneling funds to your backers and cronies, And a nice way to make your constituents believe you are there for Them.

for instance, a face lift on a beat up apt building in town.

Look at what the poor people have to live with . It is so very wrong.
Lets spruce it up for them.

Ok Bob let's put in a bid. I'll let you know the lowest so you can bid correctly .

then get all your poor to agitate for their "new interests"
win win, Look how wonderful i am and how i do for you.

Posted by: willow-ette at February 08, 2013 03:44 PM (nqBYe)

31 Disappointed by your disappointment, I am. This is northeastern Democrats acting like northeastern Democrats, with the usual suspects in the MFM looking the other way.


If they decide that Little Big Man Bob needs to be 86'd, it'll just be to grease Cory Booker into the Senate.

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at February 08, 2013 03:44 PM (Dll6b)

32
Wait, ace,
People in the Media care about you? That's really the shocker.
People ginning up "grass roots support" to push a political issue no one cares about....Meh, that's not new.
Can I introduce you to the Iron Triangle: http://goo.gl/SS8nj(Wikipedia)

You speaking I get a kick out of the fact that some people (Who should know better!) are stunned to find out that the people in the triangle move about. So that you're "political person" (non necessarily politician, could be an aide or regulator) may join company X, and convince company X to support group Y which advocates for Cause Q which is of importance to someone they're trying to win over (or give cover to.)

Case in point, in the Texas HPV vaccine mess, the "Women's leadership Forum" which was the advocacy group agitating for much of this...funded by Merck. Merck wanted cover for Perry to push their vaccine. (Strangely the advisory group convened by WLF didn't actually give that to him, they recommended a different approach entirely. But Merck was smart and had convinced them to not talk to the media, so Perry blamed the advisory forum anyway.)

Posted by: tsrblke at February 08, 2013 03:44 PM (GaqMa)

33 Spoonerism:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJv_YXIXBsE

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 08, 2013 03:40 PM



A classic.

Posted by: huerfano at February 08, 2013 03:44 PM (bAGA/)

34 Bob's not here, man.

Posted by: A Day At The Beach with Pedro & Man at February 08, 2013 03:45 PM (bGlsD)

35 Where do I join this "Peace Fucking Corps"?

And what pieces do we fuck? I hope it's the pieces with the big tits....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 08, 2013 03:45 PM (wtvvX)

36 "I never feel like doing anything, particularly "helping" other people."

I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling is going on at this establishment.

Posted by: Claude Rains at February 08, 2013 03:45 PM (D0Mt7)

37 Kudos for managing to maintain the name thing for as long as you did.


But, while this point might be very obvious, at least I've gone on at great length about it.


And here AmishDude thinks that law school imparts no useful skills whatsoever. Pish and tiffle.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 08, 2013 03:45 PM (VtjlW)

38 But the Iranians are only days away from towing an untested 20 bazillion megaton weapon halfway across the planet and asploding it in Baltimore harbor. Nuclear, man, nuclear weapon.

Posted by: Member of Robero Menendez's staff at February 08, 2013 03:45 PM (feFL6)

39 How many times per day? These bastards have turned it into an industry.

Posted by: Fritz at February 08, 2013 03:45 PM (UzPAd)

40 22 What does Teve Torbes make of this?


Tuck off, Teve Torbes!

Posted by: Dob Bole at February 08, 2013 03:45 PM (uhAkr)

41 Why Voxxi was hired is puzzling. I'd have provided cover for free.

Posted by: Tew Nork Yimes at February 08, 2013 03:46 PM (eHIJJ)

42 Obama is Hans Gruber. We are suckered into thinking he's a terrorist, but he's just a thief.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2013 03:41 PM (T0NGe)


yes, but Obama is a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist thief. ( the worst kind, by far ) At least Hans was either never a Party member or had shed those inclinations

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla, not arguing about the Civil War at February 08, 2013 03:47 PM (Dll6b)

43 Me and Rarry Heid like to pick-up slender young teenage boys and give them hot oil baths and sweet tea enemas.

It's good to be a Democrat.

Posted by: Mob Benendez at February 08, 2013 03:47 PM (z3Lez)

44 37 AlexTheChick,

Unfortunately Alex I think in the current environment it is permission to print your own money limited only by your ethics.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 03:47 PM (LRFds)

45 Wow! Ace is really Elliot Fuckin' Ness after all!

Posted by: EC at February 08, 2013 03:47 PM (GQ8sn)

46 but Obama is a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist thief

I read about him in Time magazine.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at February 08, 2013 03:48 PM (QupBk)

47 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 03:48 PM (8y9MW)

48 We were able to put some amount of pressure on Sean Bielat with this tactic.

Posted by: Truman North at February 08, 2013 03:48 PM (I2LwF)

49
crap, beaten to the the Teve Torbes.
Posted by: toby928




"Mr. Buchanan, the author is obviously referring to you when he says on page 245: "And then, I saw At Buchanan kick his Nicaraguan gardener and say, 'Teve Torbes, I enjoy your musky Victor Mature-like scent.'"


"Ted, that was just a lie. Mostly."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 08, 2013 03:49 PM (kdS6q)

50 What part of 'Foreign fucking Relations' do you not understand?

Posted by: Menendez at February 08, 2013 03:49 PM (+iUsQ)

51 But, while this point might be very obvious, at least I've gone on at great length about it.

And here AmishDude thinks that law school imparts no useful skills whatsoever. Pish and tiffle.


How do you blog at carnegiehall.com? Practice, practice, practice.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2013 03:49 PM (T0NGe)

52

What difference, does it make?

Posted by: Cillary Hlinton at February 08, 2013 03:49 PM (mETGQ)

53


What's there to live for?
Who need the Peace Corps?
Think I'll just drop out.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 08, 2013 03:49 PM (DAoux)

54

I'm just lazy


What if it was Angelina Jolie asking?

Posted by: nearest beach at February 08, 2013 03:49 PM (LpQbZ)

55 I actually waded through some of the emails to CREW, ABC.

"Peter" keeps saying he has more than the underage hookers--yet insists--

"it's not drugs!"

It also seemed like something different from the port deal.

Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 03:49 PM (r2PLg)

56 Just so you know, I declined to perform this service on both occasions.


Spill it.

Posted by: EC at February 08, 2013 03:50 PM (GQ8sn)

57 Peace Fucking Corps.

What do they do, exactly? Because that could be read a couple different ways.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 03:50 PM (8y9MW)

58 "Is it really that easy?! All I need to do is gin up a fake
'grassroots' campaign about my individual business woes and then you can
use the full power of the Smerican Aenate to do Fersonal Pavors for a
Mig Doney Donor?"



That should really be Mig Doney Boner. Just sayin'

Posted by: mugiwara at February 08, 2013 03:50 PM (hpYnL)

59 New Jersey has slid a long ways down


in the Civil War, the 10th Cavalry Division ( the "Jersey Blues" ) went to war with lances. Never actually used those long toothpicks in battle, but the drills apparently looked very impressive

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla, still not arguing about the Civil War at February 08, 2013 03:50 PM (Dll6b)

60 Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact
scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in
Congress and in the White House?

All. The. Time. This is how the DC game is played and the media is a player as much as anyone. Politician needs money. Donor needs a favor. Reporter needs a story. Lobby needs a cause. So, politician's staffer pushes story that favors donor to reporter and lobbyist. Reporter and lobbyist get a story and some good press, respectively. Politician gets good press and massages donor's issue. Donor gets what he's looking for. Everybody establishes connections for future transactions. It's all about everybody giving something to everybody else in return for something they crave. It's parasitic, and it's sucking us dry.

Posted by: joncelli at February 08, 2013 03:50 PM (RD7QR)

61 Baconz.
http://is.gd/XVmM7Y

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 08, 2013 03:51 PM (/kI1Q)

62 "But, point is, he actually asked for the chatter.[/]"

I think the actual term would be "assault chatter."

Posted by: DnonymousArivel at February 08, 2013 03:51 PM (eHIJJ)

63

And into the assault barrel you go.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 08, 2013 03:51 PM (VtjlW)

64 end barrel

Posted by: DnonymousArivel at February 08, 2013 03:51 PM (eHIJJ)

65 I got stuck in the DR once for 5 days because of a tax issue with the airlines. Who could mind 5 more days in the Carribbean on the airlines' tab when you're 22? Point being, the DR likes US money.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 03:52 PM (+kvQd)

66 Its not really rape rape if go in the back door...
Posted by: Todd Akin at February 08, 2013 03:41 PM (+OTLF)
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The chances of pregnancy are greatly diminished anyway.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2013 03:52 PM (jucos)

67 Fucking New Jersey. This is like when Mim JcGreevy was caught giving Joblobs in Stuck Trop bathrooms.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 08, 2013 03:52 PM (+lsX1)

68 60 Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact
scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in
Congress and in the White House?

All. The. Time. This is how the DC game is played and the media is a player as much as anyone. Politician needs money. Donor needs a favor. Reporter needs a story. Lobby needs a cause. So, politician's staffer pushes story that favors donor to reporter and lobbyist. Reporter and lobbyist get a story and some good press, respectively. Politician gets good press and massages donor's issue. Donor gets what he's looking for. Everybody establishes connections for future transactions. It's all about everybody giving something to everybody else in return for something they crave. It's parasitic, and it's sucking us dry.
Posted by: joncelli at February 08, 2013 03:50 PM (RD7QR)

It's very well portrayed in House of Cards.

This morning some guy on the beck network, called doc juxtaposed obama speeches with the words of eric cantor. It was quite eye opening to the listening audience, probably me and someone else.

Posted by: food fight! at February 08, 2013 03:53 PM (/b8+5)

69 66 Truck Monkey,

or not...

//Elton John and Bawney Fwank

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 03:53 PM (LRFds)

70 "Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White House?".

hundreds if not thousands...

Posted by: Shoey at February 08, 2013 03:53 PM (jdOk/)

71 "On Pretexts Planted Questions"

"The reason I bring this up is because I'm pretty certain this is common -- SOP -- in the media."

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Yup, Ace...it is.
It's also been used in Congress, for years.

Even before blogs were around, there were Dems in both houses who would use this ploy...

They would get one of their buddies in the media to write about something...something that no one was crying out for attention to...and then they would use the pretext of that article, to bring it up on the floor.

Posted by: The Bully known as Barky... at February 08, 2013 03:53 PM (BZMZX)

72 Point being, the DR likes US money.

Wait 'til they get a load of me.

Posted by: Teh Bernanke at February 08, 2013 03:53 PM (8y9MW)

73
Posted by: joncelli at February 08, 2013 03:50 PM (RD7QR)

It's not evenalways parasitic. Yeah some people are doing it for money, most of them even.
But I assure you some people are doing this because they think they're moving the country in the right direction. It may be a small amount but it's there.
Point is it's so damned easy to tip the scales it's being done everywhere!

We're boned from all directions!

Posted by: tsrblke at February 08, 2013 03:53 PM (GaqMa)

74 Damn. I tease the barrel for less than a minute and it still sucks me in.

Posted by: DnonymousArivel at February 08, 2013 03:53 PM (eHIJJ)

75 ...nasty sock off

Posted by: wheatie at February 08, 2013 03:53 PM (BZMZX)

76 65 I got stuck in the DR once for 5 days because of a tax issue with the airlines. Who could mind 5 more days in the Carribbean on the airlines' tab when you're 22? Point being, the DR likes US money.
Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 03:52 PM (+kvQd)


________________

What can you do in DR that is not drugs, hookers or the ports deal?

Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 03:54 PM (r2PLg)

77 57 Peace Fucking Corps.

What do they do, exactly? Because that could be read a couple different ways.

It's the gateway drug to a high paying job with a tax exempt non-profit.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 03:54 PM (+kvQd)

78 Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White House?


Be better to ask how many times per day does it not happen.

Posted by: nearest beach at February 08, 2013 03:54 PM (LpQbZ)

79 Meanwhile the GOP can't buy a minute of air time.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 08, 2013 03:54 PM (K61x5)

80 What can you do in DR that is not drugs, hookers or the ports deal?

Who cares?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 03:55 PM (8y9MW)

81 73 TSRBike,

Yes but the left has it hardcoded in their entire model...

hell even Piggy Noonan was mocking its rote mechanic method during campaign 08....

"aunt with no limbs who is blind etc etc etc"

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 03:55 PM (LRFds)

82 Come to think of it the source "Peter" was saying something about they all go off on this boat...

Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 03:55 PM (r2PLg)

83 Speaking of tools left in the shed by Romney:

Politics is corruption. The bigger the government the more corruption.

The GOP and Romney didn't bother to point out the corruption in DC and use it as a bludgeon against the supposed Champions of Teh Peeple.

If we do get another GOP elected Pres, his first job should be to go on a Mongolian raid in DC, arresting and prosecuting as many people as he can target. GOP and Dem's, black, white, short, and tall. That would give him moral credibility in the public's eye, discipline of his party, and a good start on breaking the back of the Leviathan.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2013 03:55 PM (NTBjC)

84


Perhaps your post could have summarized in one word: lobbying

Posted by: nearest beach at February 08, 2013 03:55 PM (LpQbZ)

85
My other exit question is, now many of these dirtbags in Washington know where to go for that sweet young 16 year old hooker fare?

Many more that just him, is the answer.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2013 03:56 PM (TOk1P)

86 What can you do in DR that is not drugs, hookers or the ports deal?
Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 03:54 PM (r2PLg)

Golf, windsurf, drink, drink, drink and drink.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 03:56 PM (+kvQd)

87 I got stuck in the DR once for 5 days because of a tax issue with the airlines. Who could mind 5 more days in the Carribbean on the airlines' tab when you're 22? Point being, the DR likes US money.
Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 03:52 PM (+kvQd)
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And Senator Penis apparently.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2013 03:56 PM (jucos)

88 79 Skandia Recluse,

Which is a new development. I'd kill to know how organized the lockstep echo chambers' origin really was. The historian in me.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 03:56 PM (LRFds)

89 Power draws corruption like shit draws flies.

Posted by: Grans Huber at February 08, 2013 03:56 PM (QupBk)

90 83 Weft-Cut Loop,

His name was Teddy Roosevelt...

wish he'd held the side of progressivism...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 03:57 PM (LRFds)

91 Democrat men and boy butts: mmm mmm mmm

Posted by: Mob Benendez at February 08, 2013 03:57 PM (z3Lez)

92 there are ads in newspapers and magazines in Canada trying to lure Canadians into buying 'vacation villas' / second homes in the DR. Some are buying.


'a good salesman can sell ANYTHING'. or so I'm told

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at February 08, 2013 03:57 PM (Dll6b)

93 It's too bad there aren't any professional investigators who could look into this kind of corruption and inform the public.

Posted by: AFFA at February 08, 2013 03:57 PM (R3kjE)

94 "Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White House?"
I don't know. All I can think about in response is something the Ace Levy character said in the movie version of 'Starship Troopers': "Shoot a nuke down a bug hole, you got a lot of dead bugs."

Posted by: troyriser at February 08, 2013 03:57 PM (vtiE6)

95 Weft, that's a beautiful fantasy! Breaking the back of leviathan indeed...!

You go be president to ride leviathan not to kill it!

Posted by: Truman North at February 08, 2013 03:57 PM (I2LwF)

96 OK. That post was worth reading.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2013 03:57 PM (alKQm)

97 80 What can you do in DR that is not drugs, hookers or the ports deal?

Who cares?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 03:55 PM (8y9MW)

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Okay--not you--personally.

These two little puffs M&M.

Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 03:57 PM (r2PLg)

98 It's the "t" in "Date Stepartment" that had me cracking up.

Posted by: JohnW at February 08, 2013 03:58 PM (44oMx)

99 We need to point out that Menendez and Melgen had all those girls in BINDERS

And get fugly lesbos in cardboard binders to picket in front of his office. So he leaves and won't come back. Or he'll see them, I mean.

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 08, 2013 03:58 PM (3ZtZW)

100 Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White House?

***

I'm gonna take a guess and say that it's about as common as those Google hits I get when I search for anything using the words "reviews" or "ratings".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2013 03:58 PM (piMMO)

101 Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 08, 2013 03:58 PM (3ZtZW)

As long as he votes for babies to be ground into sausage they don't care.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 03:59 PM (+kvQd)

102 Term limits!

A monetary ceiling on how much can be spent on a presidential campaign. In fact, all campaigns should have a monetary ceiling for expenses. Maybe then the poor but educated little guy/gal can get into the government via office and not via exam and union.

If Romney and Obama had donated their money spent on the campaign to either pay down the debt or build their dream high speed rail, we'd be ahead of the game. Instead the media made oodles of money. so they can buy their third or fourth house and set up their 90 trust fund, for themselves.

Posted by: food fight! at February 08, 2013 03:59 PM (/b8+5)

103 93 "It's too bad there aren't any professional investigators who could look into this kind of corruption and inform the public."




Yeah, what's up with that?

Posted by: Media Establishment at February 08, 2013 04:00 PM (z3Lez)

104 Smells like "journolists" without any power.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:00 PM (+kvQd)

105 Posted by: food fight! at February 08, 2013 03:59 PM (/b8+5)

***

WTF?!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2013 04:00 PM (piMMO)

106
Agitate...rinse...repeat.

The Dems had a sweet deal going, back when they were funding ACORN.
ACORN were their foot soldiers...funded with our tax dollars.

Add to that, the art of launching 'assault lawsuits'.

The Banking Mess got agitated into full steam, when Barky himself sued Citibank to force them to make subprime loans.
He was the attorney for...ACORN...in that assault lawsuit.

He crucified Citibank, to 'make an example out of them'.
It worked like a charm.

Posted by: wheatie at February 08, 2013 04:00 PM (BZMZX)

107 Golf, windsurf, drink, drink, drink and drink.
Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 03:56 PM (+kvQd)

______________

I just get a sense that Mengel is messing in DR politics.

Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 04:00 PM (r2PLg)

108 How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out --
in media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White
House?


I'd rather give a percent of media bandwidth than a number of instances.

I'll SWAG that 10-20% of media bandwidth is cooked one way or another. It happens at all levels down to news stories about local gardening clubs.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 08, 2013 04:00 PM (J6hHs)

109 You know who this helps

Posted by: Pennis Drager at February 08, 2013 04:01 PM (jucos)

110
FYI
Cicholas Nage has grown a beard.


Posted by: Vuzzfeed Bow Lnfo Ioter at February 08, 2013 04:01 PM (mETGQ)

111 106 Wheatie,

Yup and wound up enabling/necessitating the GSEs laundering risk in portfolios through bundling.

Some LawDog morons need to brainstorm how to attack leftleaning institutions.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:02 PM (LRFds)

112 Baby sausage? Now that's fucked up.

I mean, its the feet that taste best. Pickled baby feet are teh awesome!!!!1

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 08, 2013 04:02 PM (3ZtZW)

113 You go be president to ride leviathan not to kill it!
Posted by: Truman North


How many pols are elected promising to do Something Wonderful, and then they do the opposite? All? Every damned one?

How 'bout, just novelty's sake, we get one that plays friendly with DC and Wall Street during the campaign, and then stabs them in the eye sockets with a pitch fork?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2013 04:02 PM (NTBjC)

114 Isn't this also just like the EPA teaching environmental protest groups how to agitate against the govt (the EPA) to change enviro laws?

Posted by: EC at February 08, 2013 04:02 PM (GQ8sn)

115 iow, journolisting or townhousing or back in the day talking points faxing

Posted by: No Feet Johnson at February 08, 2013 04:03 PM (KHo8t)

116 Exit Question answer - I imagine it happens all the time, and from both ends. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that the Media calls, say, Harry Reid and asks him what they can do to help him out in any and all matters.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 08, 2013 04:03 PM (DuH+r)

117 The Dems had a sweet deal going, back when they were funding ACORN.
ACORN were their foot soldiers...funded with our tax dollars.


The left is entirely funded with our dollars. In that sense, they are magnificent grifter bastards and you have to tip your hat to them. They produce nothing yet live like kings. Interlocking membership, webs of cross donated money that started as government grants lobbied for my one or the other fronts. It's a Rube Goldberg machine.

Posted by: Grans Huber at February 08, 2013 04:04 PM (QupBk)

118 Deanardo LiCaprio is swimmin' with naked wimmenz in Miami

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2013 04:04 PM (jucos)

119 eesh. What a mess. Luckily, Mob Menendez is a democrat so ethics rules and other laws don't apply to him. See c.f. Tom Delay and the bullshit of doom heaped upon him as he violated imaginary laws.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 08, 2013 04:04 PM (QxSug)

120 Ok time to work....

FUCK OBAMA!

LET IT BURN!


Posted by: Todd Akin at February 08, 2013 04:04 PM (+OTLF)

121 Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White House?

As a percentage?

Posted by: zsasz at February 08, 2013 04:04 PM (MMC8r)

122 114 EC,

that is EXACTLY what it is. The activist fuel that led to EPA is then empowered to grift the public coffers while gumming up industry which lends itself to shakedowns.

It'd be like ATF giving briefings to militias on how to skirt ATF law.

The right needs to decide whether or not to fight fire with fire...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:04 PM (LRFds)

123 114 Isn't this also just like the EPA teaching environmental protest groups how to agitate against the govt (the EPA) to change enviro laws?

Posted by: EC at February 08, 2013 04:02 PM (GQ8sn)

Problem is they have all the loafers on their twitter feed and we get to work to support them.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:05 PM (+kvQd)

124 86 What can you do in DR that is not drugs, hookers or the ports deal?

Bitch about Haitians.

Posted by: akula51 at February 08, 2013 04:05 PM (YesJa)

125 Where's the Blizzard thread, this is some bad ass shit out there?

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:05 PM (+kvQd)

126
I don't know about per day, but I am sure it happens all the time, but more minor. However there are certain politicians who go for the big money just like that clusterfuck rep from PA that recently died. And this Menendez bastard, not to mention Fienstein, and Pelosi. And that bitch from Alaska.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 08, 2013 04:05 PM (p/cQy)

127 I suspect money laundering.

____________

Was there any further confirmation that the FBI was initially investigating Mengel for Medicare fraud?

Posted by: tasker at February 08, 2013 04:06 PM (r2PLg)

128 Kim Kardasian has a HUGE Azzzzzzzzz..... And Lindsay Lohan is broke...... (sometimes it doesn't work).

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2013 04:06 PM (jucos)

129 Who knew. He likes screwing us too. Not just little girls. I'm shocked that an American Senator can have such a voracious sexual appetite. Almost like a predator, of some sort of sexual nature. Regarding young little girls, children if you will, and the American people. Shocking.

Posted by: gigg at February 08, 2013 04:06 PM (41VCE)

130 Two pickets to Titsburg please.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 08, 2013 04:06 PM (QM5S2)

131 I don't remember this being on this morning's conference call.

Posted by: Media Migraines for America at February 08, 2013 04:07 PM (e8kgV)

132 129 gigg,

(formerly) Present!

//Ted kennedy's liver

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:07 PM (LRFds)

133
OT

Venezuela's government has announced that is devaluing the country's currency.
Officials say the fixed exchange rate is changing from 4.30 bolivars to the dollar to 6.30 bolivars to the dollar.


first to the bottom winz!

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at February 08, 2013 04:07 PM (EZl54)

134 £Ï§ÑÓÉØ¿ñ

Posted by: Media Establishment at February 08, 2013 04:08 PM (z3Lez)

135
so if I run for the house next year and actually get in, then i'm safe here?
regardless of my absolute theft and the sexual exploits I have planned

SWEET!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 08, 2013 04:08 PM (lwUjz)

136 Venezuela's government has announced that is devaluing the country's currency.
Officials say the fixed exchange rate is changing from 4.30 bolivars to the dollar to 6.30 bolivars to the dollar.


Oh, good. Someone else is going through Hyperinflation.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:08 PM (8y9MW)

137 Two pickets to Titsburg please.
Posted by: Roland THTG at February 08, 2013 04:06 PM (QM5S2)
---------------------------------------------------------
THE. GREATEST. JOKE. OF. ALL. TIME!
Hahahahahaha. You fucking bitch you ruined my life!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2013 04:08 PM (jucos)

138 On the topic, all I can say is:

If somebody is asking Ace or any other Rightwingblogger to "gin up controversy" so as to get some steamrolling going... Man, we are Teh Suck!

I mean, shit, they can get Sunday morning talkshows, newspapers "of record", university professors, whole rioting masses of retodds, and we *can't even get a blogger* to he'p a brothah out

No' I'm sayin'?

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 08, 2013 04:08 PM (3ZtZW)

139 126
However there are certain politicians who go for the big money just like that clusterfuck rep from PA that recently died.

Yup, that's what I hate about the Flotus and the Potus, they covet things and give the impression the accumulation of useless designer crap is the be all and end all. They don't have any big ideals other than more crap for them and less for us. It is so dangerous.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:09 PM (+kvQd)

140 ndh

foodfight!! is the catpiss troll, curious

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at February 08, 2013 04:09 PM (GVxQo)

141 117...The left is entirely funded with our dollars.

Not all of it...but pretty damn close.
The big Dem-donors pour money into their causes, and usually get some sort of sweet deal in return.

ACORN didn't die, either...the cockroaches just scurried around and formed other orgs.
I wish we knew all their new aliases.
They could be getting funding again, for all we know.

Posted by: wheatie at February 08, 2013 04:09 PM (BZMZX)

142 136 AllenG,

with even less resource and inertia driven price structure....

on the bright side when Parrot Boy dies it'll be funny watching the chinese fire drill of succession

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:10 PM (LRFds)

143 WTF?!

That's 'Curious'. It doesn't make sense because it never makes sense.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at February 08, 2013 04:10 PM (feFL6)

144 foodfight!! is the catpiss troll, curious


***

I see.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2013 04:10 PM (piMMO)

145 I'm pretty sure "addressing the concerns" of no known Americans is usually the start of every MSNBC story that they push. Its push "news", designed to shape public opinion.

Posted by: Whatev at February 08, 2013 04:11 PM (A7Wh1)

146

Salomon Melgen
This guy could be part fish and a joo fish to boot or a wizard in The Lord of The Rings as joo wizard.

Posted by: Arazy Css Luap Nor at February 08, 2013 04:11 PM (mETGQ)

147 "Mob Benendez"

Good one.
I think I see what you did there. . .

Posted by: looking closely at February 08, 2013 04:11 PM (6Q9g2)

148 Where's the Blizzard thread, this is some bad ass shit out there?
Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:05 PM (+kvQd)



Everywhere, but here, thankfully.

Posted by: nearest beach at February 08, 2013 04:12 PM (LpQbZ)

149
140 foodfight!! is the catpiss troll, curious
who was it that used to do the sock about being one of her cat's begging to be fed?
that was classic

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 08, 2013 04:12 PM (lwUjz)

150 Where's the Blizzard thread, this is some bad ass shit out there?

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:05 PM

Global Thermonuclear Warming by the foot.

Posted by: Noah Hockeystick at February 08, 2013 04:12 PM (bGlsD)

151 **117...The left is entirely funded with our dollars. **

yeah, sad but true. I was hoping that 8 years of W would lead to some house cleaning. The idea that lefty advocacy groups are tax funded so as to advocate for more advocacy group spending is absurd enough without considering that we're allowing it to happen, we're footing the bill, and if we tried the same thing, we'd be laughed out of the room.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at February 08, 2013 04:12 PM (QxSug)

152 Kids in school get shot.
That should be the headline.

MSNBC's Headline:
America asking if enough is enough on the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: Whatev at February 08, 2013 04:12 PM (A7Wh1)

153 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2013 04:10 PM (piMMO)

Oddly enough, have no idea what two individuals who comment here are talking about.

But they seem to be regulars here so I guess their oddities are overlooked.

Posted by: food fight! at February 08, 2013 04:12 PM (/b8+5)

154 Ah, the old "some say . . ." gambit.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 08, 2013 04:13 PM (BAS5M)

155 U.S. President Barack Obama told House Democrats Thursday his State of
the Union address will focus on job creation, education and energy
independence.

job creation .. What ? There are going to clone me ?!?

Posted by: Steve Jobs at February 08, 2013 04:13 PM (e8kgV)

156 Posted by: Arazy Css Luap Nor at February 08, 2013 04:11 PM (mETGQ


I was just reading at the Marine Corps Times, an article about Dakota Meyer vs. Luap Nor, and the Luap Norbots came out in force, calling Meyer "stupid" and Chris Kyle a coward.


At the damned MCT. *seethes*

Paulbots are demented and evil.

Sorry for the O/T, I'm having a rage headache.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 08, 2013 04:13 PM (UOM48)

157 >>>"Mob Benendez"

Bebe Rebozo?

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 08, 2013 04:13 PM (3ZtZW)

158 Ace:

We should be writing articles titled as follows:

"Why Are So Many Mass Murderers Liberals or Progressives?"

Drop the boom in the headline. And then you can get into the philosophy/thought behind it. But you have already accomplished your purpose without blaming any particular person or group.

You are just pointing out the fact - a significant majority of these mass killers are liberals/progressives/hate God, etc.

And I would suggest that the answer lies in the fact that progressives/leftists ALWAYS THINK THEY KNOWeverything, and that conservatives value the individual and respect individual life.

Even better question, has any mass shooter EVER been a member of the NRA?

Food for thought.

Posted by: Prescient11 at February 08, 2013 04:14 PM (tVTLU)

159 aw....the poor thing tries to reinvent itself but it's just as pathetic as it was before it disappeared....

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at February 08, 2013 04:15 PM (GVxQo)

160
Oddly enough, have no idea what two individuals who comment here are talking about.



But they seem to be regulars here so I guess their oddities are overlooked.

Posted by: food fight! at February 08, 2013 04:12 PM (/b8+5


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *cough*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 08, 2013 04:15 PM (UOM48)

161
156 sooner or later the paulbots will be in a bar and say that to a marine's face
then justice will be served

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 08, 2013 04:15 PM (lwUjz)

162 NICE!

http://tinyurl.com/b2etq5k

CNN's Lemon says "Piers Morgan Killer was *not crazy* when he wrote his manifesto comrade....

DON LEMON, CNN HOST: Still, again, this
conversation is no way justifying what he has done, but it is also
something that we need to talk about. Also something that is not -- that
is being talked about online, being talked about on the radio, but not
being talked about in media coverage. I have to say, even other
journalists, because I made a similar point yesterday, that it appears
from his manifesto that he is, you know, he wasn't crazy when he wrote
his manifesto. Someone, another journalist from a major news
organization wrote me and said, confidentially: "Your coverage of the LA
fugitive story makes me proud to be a black journalist. Yes, what he's
doing is wrong, but your points are right. Praying for him and the
victims. once they catch him. Obviously this is a confidential message
because of where I work. Peace and Love."


Wow that is AMAZING so unlike all of the evil rightwing even if they're communist shooters, bombers, et al

*This* one has "something we need to hear?"

It *is* coming and I will *never* give up my fucking rifle.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:16 PM (LRFds)

163
..... need to recalibrate my ozfic detector.....

Posted by: fixerupper at February 08, 2013 04:16 PM (nELVU)

164
159 watch out
her 'friends' are watching you
0.0

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 08, 2013 04:17 PM (lwUjz)

165 153 Curious,

Curious if I'm one of them it is by design.

You keep on keeping on y'hear?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:17 PM (LRFds)

166 The wind is insane, so my driveway is clear but there is a foot on my back porch.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:17 PM (+kvQd)

167 Here comes “Recovery Summer IV”

Posted by: Steve Jobs at February 08, 2013 04:17 PM (e8kgV)

168 Someone asked about the storm.

If you look at the US Weather Vapor Satellite Map, it tella you all you need to know. Click play and watch. It updates every 15 minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/bzesqnj

Posted by: food fight! at February 08, 2013 04:18 PM (/b8+5)

169 *This* one has "something we need to hear?"

So they're saying the Piers Morgan Serial Killer is praiseworthy?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:18 PM (8y9MW)

170 How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out

Rarely, if at all.

Posted by: BookFace at February 08, 2013 04:18 PM (h6XiD)

171 Hot Latino hookers offered as a pretext? Does that part happen that way too?

'Cause if it does...

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 08, 2013 04:18 PM (zpqa2)

172

Ace should do a post listing the best Valentines Day gifts for the 'ettes ;-).

The hubby's, here, might just need a nudge.

Get your hands dirty for a change.

Posted by: tiny bit of brainwashing is okay at February 08, 2013 04:18 PM (LpQbZ)

173 OT

A power company says the cause of the Super Bowl blackout was a faulty device that had been installed to prevent a failure of electric cables leading to the Superdome.

Posted by: Assault Jones in Assault, CO at February 08, 2013 04:18 PM (8sCoq)

174 Posted by: Steve Jobs

Shouldn't you be out looking for iBrainz?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 08, 2013 04:19 PM (QupBk)

175 (/b8+5)
------------------------------------------------
Did you buy enough cat food to weather the storm?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2013 04:19 PM (jucos)

176 Don't mind me, just setting my nic to the new theme.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at February 08, 2013 04:19 PM (wbeNt)

177 So they're saying the Piers Morgan Serial Killer is praiseworthy?

That's exactly what they are saying, because he is them.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:19 PM (+kvQd)

178 I'm so stupid and clueless. A lot of things finally are starting to make sense and add up based on looking at it from this perspective.

Posted by: Big D at February 08, 2013 04:19 PM (bipor)

179 169 Allen G,

Watch it or read the transcript there at Breitbart...

Yes this one 8is* praiseworthy and they are, as black journalists, hoping to hear his story once captured.....

"hoping his(dead) victims are okay"....

uh....

yeah CNN you'll never get my rifle.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:20 PM (LRFds)

180 Ace should do a post listing the best Valentines Day gifts for the 'ettes ;-).


Guns.
Ammo.
Chocolate.
Cabana Boy.

Really, it's not that long a list.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:20 PM (8y9MW)

181 177 madamex,

Yup they are out of the closet and it is coming.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:20 PM (LRFds)

182 I'm literally gobsmacked over that Don Lemon piece.

Speechless.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 08, 2013 04:20 PM (UOM48)

183 I think that prominent politicians secretly own the firearms and ammunition industry.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 08, 2013 04:20 PM (QupBk)

184 Just so you know, I declined to perform this service on both occasions.

Sure you did.

Now what exactly did the large breasted Japanese girl who couldn't fit through a hole in the door offer in exchange for helping promote her defense strategy?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 08, 2013 04:21 PM (SY2Kh)

185 Chicago, Ill., a city surrounded by the rural midwest, has tight guns laws. El Paso, Texas, has lax gun laws and neighbors one of the most violent cities in the world. Yet, El Paso is the safest big city in the U.S., whereas President Obama cites the murder rate in his hometown as a reason to implement his gun control agenda.

Gun violence isn’t much of an issue in El Paso, Texas, which is the safest city of its size in the country. “[T]his week, for the third year in a row, El Paso was ranked as the safest U.S. city with a population greater that 500,000 by CQ Press, which compiled FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports,” per Fox.El Paso has minimal gun control — “mostly due to gun-friendly state law,” Reason observes. It also neighbors one of the most dangerous cities in the world.

Posted by: Chris Kyle at February 08, 2013 04:22 PM (e8kgV)

186 Getting your hands dirty???? Are you saying what I think you're saying?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2013 04:22 PM (jucos)

187 192 Jane D'oh,

I'll keep watching but I think the inference is, "he sounds like one of us and his rampage is evidence we should get our way or there may be more."

ie they are in fact blackmailing the American people subtly or not.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:22 PM (LRFds)

188 Shouldn't you be out looking for iBrainz?

Or a state where you can quickly become a resident and secure a cheap iPancreas while shipping production of your toys to Asia.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at February 08, 2013 04:23 PM (feFL6)

189 Getting with the program.

Posted by: Truck Poised to be SemiAutomatic Assault Monkey at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (jucos)

190 People have reported that Harry Reid is a pedarist, and his crawl space is guarded 24/7 by the secret service for some reason. Has he responded to these truths?

Posted by: Whatev at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (A7Wh1)

191 Don't mind me, just setting my nic to the new theme.

LOL.

"Do you know why I pulled you over?"
"No."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (8y9MW)

192 More good news.... Hillary is the most popular politician in America... Hillary... Fuck this....

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (9+ccr)

193 The left beat you to calling people out long ago , and by people I mean republicans, for doing this.

I give you Armstrong Williams. They got a twofer since they were able to discredit a black conservative.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (DVEEo)

194 If you want a more honest government, you make it smaller.

The bigger it gets, the bigger the honeypot, and the easier it is to hide the theft.

Posted by: zsasz at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (MMC8r)

195 New puzzle game is clicking two deeper than the story to find a real source. Journalists sure aren't doing this.

Posted by: KC at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (yODHX)

196

This is truly painful to read:

Obama Incorporated
Column: The president’s left-wing network continues to expand


http://freebeacon.com/obama-incorporated/

Truly.

Posted by: tiny bit of brainwashing is okay at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (LpQbZ)

197 Besides President Barack Obama’s executive actions regarding illegal aliens and U.S. immigration policy, without much notice by the GOP and news organizations, drastic reductions are expected within the Department of Homeland Security’s immigration enforcement-related bureaus, said a top protective intelligence and assessment specialist on Monday.

Posted by: Hose Head at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (e8kgV)

198 Really, it's not that long a list.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:20 PM (8y9MW)

Don't forget a sparkling clean house, laundry done and dinner made. It's the effort not the quanity. Anyone can pick up a phone and order a Love me now bear and flowers. Putting yourself out? Your sweat and energy? The greatest gift of all.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (l86i3)

199 Am I the only one that thinks that if these evil fucktards spent half the time and energy doing things the right way as they do doing it that way, the world would be better off?

Posted by: © Sponge at February 08, 2013 04:25 PM (xmcEQ)

200

o o

Posted by: tiny bit of brainwashing is okay at February 08, 2013 04:25 PM (LpQbZ)

Posted by: tiny bit of brainwashing is okay at February 08, 2013 04:25 PM (LpQbZ)

202
Shouldn't you be out looking for iBrainz?

You talking to me?

Posted by: Boe Jiden at February 08, 2013 04:25 PM (mETGQ)

203 If anyone is interested, I think AllenG's blog is discussing "Ewok Porn: hairy humps or Wicket's wicked?" You know, if anyone would like to comment on such a subject. Maybe. If you like.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 08, 2013 04:25 PM (ORGYc)

204 *cough*

Posted by: The Barrel at February 08, 2013 04:25 PM (QupBk)

205 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (l86i3)


I didn't do the bold, someone needs to occupy the barrel.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 08, 2013 04:25 PM (l86i3)

206 Posted by: tiny bit of brainwashing is okay at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (LpQbZ)

Barrel. Now.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:25 PM (8y9MW)

207 Mike and Trina swear by their coffee. He enjoys a "saturated" blend, which is "on the cold side"; she prefers a fine espresso grind that is "warm and thicker." The St. Petersburg, Fla., couple refuses to drink the caffeinated beverage, which they say is bad for their health. Instead, they use it as an enema. They each have at least 100 coffee enemas a month, 6,000 in all since their addiction began two years ago.

Posted by: St. Arbucks (patron of coffee) at February 08, 2013 04:26 PM (e8kgV)

208 I'll keep watching but I think the inference is, "he
sounds like one of us and his rampage is evidence we should get our way
or there may be more."

ie they are in fact blackmailing the American people subtly or not.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:22 PM (LRFds)
------
mebbe..... but I think it boils more down to a more base reaction on Lemmons part."I wish I had his courage."
Thats what Im hearing Lemmon say.


Posted by: fixerupper at February 08, 2013 04:26 PM (nELVU)

209

barrel

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:26 PM (LRFds)

210

This is truly painful to read:

Obama Incorporated
Column: The president’s left-wing network continues to expand


http://freebeacon.com/obama-incorporated/

Truly.

Posted by: tiny bit of brainwashing is okay at February 08, 2013 04:26 PM (LpQbZ)

211 AllenG has a blog?

Posted by: zsasz at February 08, 2013 04:26 PM (MMC8r)

212 Andrew Cuomo just declared a state of emergency in NY State.

What exactly does that mean and why do the governors do this?

Posted by: food fight! at February 08, 2013 04:26 PM (/b8+5)

213
I have to ask, doesn't anybody care about FF or Benghazi anymore? and why?

Posted by: The Kock Bretheren, idyllic cuntservative libertardians at February 08, 2013 04:27 PM (OzEqi)

214 iBrainz and iBrainz!!! What is "iBrainz"?

Posted by: maureen dowdbot 69 at February 08, 2013 04:27 PM (ORGYc)

215 AllenG has a blog?

Nope. It's a bog.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:27 PM (8y9MW)

216 Barrel.

Posted by: © Sponge at February 08, 2013 04:27 PM (xmcEQ)

217 They each have at least 100 coffee enemas a month, 6,000 in all since their addiction began two years ago.

You don't come here for the hunting, do you?

Posted by: juan valdez at February 08, 2013 04:27 PM (QupBk)

218
People have reported that Harry Reid is a pedarist, and his crawl space
is guarded 24/7 by the secret service for some reason. Has he responded
to these truths?

Posted by: Whatev at February 08, 2013 04:24 PM (A7Wh1)

Crawl space?Try walk in freezer.

Posted by: Rarry Hied at February 08, 2013 04:27 PM (mETGQ)

219

Barrel. Now.


so stern!
lol

Posted by: tiny bit of brainwashing is okay at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (LpQbZ)

220 "Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in Congress and in the White House"

Those "grassroots" organizations spend 80% of their time fund raising, versus 20% acting, so it isn't a bd as you think. The scary ones are single on or funded, cough Soros, who can act without scratching for a paycheck every week.

Posted by: Jean at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (LBUCy)

221 I followed this flawlessly until it got to Mig Doney Donor which I guess should have been Mig Boney Donor, although Dig Money Bonor would have been funniest... now... what was I saying?

Oh yeah, Bonors...

Posted by: Voluble at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (qYvEa)

222 212 Andrew Cuomo just declared a state of emergency in NY State.

What exactly does that mean and why do the governors do this?
--
Short explanation:
Cha ching!

Posted by: Whatev at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (A7Wh1)

223 192

well she's an "apolitical" figure now. that'll change.

Posted by: JDP at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (60GaT)

224 213
I have to ask, doesn't anybody care about FF or Benghazi anymore? and why?

The left never cared, the right has new scandals everyday.

Posted by: madamex at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (+kvQd)

225 212
Andrew Cuomo just declared a state of emergency in NY State.



What exactly does that mean and why do the governors do this?

Posted by: food fight! at February 08, 2013 04:26 PM (/b8+5

Google "state of emergency" then ask your cats.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (UOM48)

226
213.

Your concern is duly noted.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (nELVU)

227 Nope. It's a bog.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:27 PM (8y9MW)


Ah, so you finally got the family ranch back up and running?

Posted by: © Sponge at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (xmcEQ)

228 AllenG has a blog?
Oddly enough, yes. It got three "wagging tails" up from the Endor Moons Assault Magazine Weekly.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 08, 2013 04:28 PM (ORGYc)

229 He loves to mention me. Now I'm badder than ever!

Posted by: hannitys_Great American Assault_hybrid at February 08, 2013 04:29 PM (zpqa2)

230 208 Fixerupper,

Maybe but even that is a form of blackmail for their advocated positions no?

Essentially by even qualifying his bullshit while pretending "we of course do not advocate what he is doing" they are lending moral authority and credibility to his idiocy.

This is BAD it'd be like Limbaugh saying to Bill Clinton's Calumny, "hey asshole McVeigh was goddamned right in what he did...."

that is not the actions of an ethical broadcaster at all, and most definitely not the act of as Lemmon feigns "an impartial journalist"....

critical mass will happen in my lifetime.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 04:29 PM (LRFds)

231 The U.S. Navy will delay the refueling of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72) for an unknown period because of the uncertain fiscal environment due to the ongoing legislative struggle, the service told Congress in a Friday message obtained by USNI News.

Lincoln was scheduled to be moved to Huntington Ingalls Industries’ (HII) Newport News Shipyard later this month to begin the 4-year refueling and complex overhaul (RCOH) of the ship.

“This delay is due to uncertainty in the Fiscal Year 2013 appropriations bill, both in the timing and funding level available for the first full year of the contract,” the message said.
“CVN-72 will remain at Norfolk Naval Base where the ships force personnel will continue to conduct routine maintenance until sufficient funding is received for the initial execution of the RCOH.”

Rep. J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.) chairman of the House Armed Services Seapower subcommittee released a statement denouncing the need for decision.

Forbes called the delay, “another example of how these reckless and irresponsible defense cuts in Washington will have a long-term impact on the Navy’s ability to perform its missions. Not only will the Lincoln be delayed in returning to the Fleet, but this decision will also affect the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) defueling, the USS George Washington (CVN-73) RCOH, and future carrier readiness.”

???? We're starting to sound like the old Soviet Navy? Way to go obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2013 04:29 PM (jE38p)

232 How often does this play out????

Ask Carl Rover...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 08, 2013 04:29 PM (lZBBB)

233 They each have at least 100 coffee enemas a month

That's three a day.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 08, 2013 04:29 PM (/kI1Q)

234 I have to ask, doesn't anybody care about FF or Benghazi anymore? and why?
Posted by: The Kock Bretheren, idyllic cuntservative libertardians at February 08, 2013 04:27 PM (OzEqi)
--------------------------------------------------------
No. Fuck it. Let it burn.

Posted by: Truck Poised to be SemiAutomatic Assault Monkey at February 08, 2013 04:30 PM (jucos)

235 Nood

Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2013 04:30 PM (X6akg)

236 Oddly enough, yes. It got three "wagging tails" up from the Endor Moons Assault Magazine Weekly.

I have to admit- it's not the most incendiary thing, but I thought the most recent post would at least generate a little more fun.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 08, 2013 04:30 PM (8y9MW)

237 State of Emergency in NY state for 20 fucking inches of snow?!?!?

Seriously?

We're fucked.

Posted by: © Sponge at February 08, 2013 04:30 PM (xmcEQ)

238

The Obama machine functions in the following manner. Corporations seeking to curry favor with the administration can donate generously and secretly to Organizing for America. They also can join Business Forward. The reward is access, as well as the prospect that impending regulations and administrative protocols will be shaped to the corporation’s liking. Failure to donate, however, may put your corporation in the crosshairs of the members of the Democracy Initiative and Common Purpose Project. Suddenly you will see your business the target of “grassroots outrage” and intense and adversarial journalism. The attention will be unfriendly and annoying. But there will be a pretty obvious, if expensive, way of making it stop: Donate to Obama’s 501(c)(4).


Yep.

My brother turned down a DoD contract -- and immediately, the dept of HS was "auditing" his company. They tore the place apart.

Scary shit.

If it isn't HS, it's the IRS or the EPA, etc.

pure thuggery
pure evil

Posted by: white, cold, sand at February 08, 2013 04:31 PM (LpQbZ)

239 I think GM should come out with a model called "The Assault" or Assault 4X4 etc.

Posted by: hannitys_Great American Assault_hybrid at February 08, 2013 04:31 PM (zpqa2)

240 Gee. I wonder who coffee-enema addicts vote for.

Posted by: zsasz at February 08, 2013 04:32 PM (MMC8r)

241
Ben(ghazi) most people would just turn away.
They don't listen to a word we say.
When we've got him on the ropes
He makes us look like dopes
The J.E.F. just wins,
We wipe him off our chins
(we wipe him off our chins).

Posted by: Michael Jackson's Pet Rat, with the Ace of Spades as the backing singers. at February 08, 2013 04:33 PM (OzEqi)

242 That's odd. Andi doesn't usually have just half a cup.

Posted by: andi sullivan's waitress at February 08, 2013 04:33 PM (ORGYc)

243 A Sri Lankan prisoner who tried to hide his mobile phone during a search of his cell was caught out when guards heard ring tones from his rear-end, a hospital official said on Friday. The 58-year-old convict had to be admitted to the national hospital in Colombo where doctors later retrieved the handset from his rectum. "The man had concealed the phone inside his person," the official said, asking not to be named. "Unfortunately for him, the phone rang at the wrong time and guards knew he had a phone at the wrong end."

Posted by: The Count of Monte Cristo at February 08, 2013 04:33 PM (e8kgV)

244 That's odd...Bob never sticks MY coffee up his ass.

Posted by: Shirley at February 08, 2013 04:33 PM (MMC8r)

245 That's bold talk for a one eyed fat man.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 08, 2013 04:34 PM (QM5S2)

246 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2013 04:29 PM (jE38p)



THAT pisses me off.

Everytime there is a funding cut/suspension/or issue..... the front line stuff ends up getting whacked first.

Cities cut police and fire FIRST. School districts cut teachers FIRST. Why??? Because "fuck you citizens.... pay me" that why.

Of ALLLLLL the things The Pentagon spends money on..... air craft carrier fuel gets whacked first?????

Posted by: fixerupper at February 08, 2013 04:34 PM (nELVU)

247 Wayne State Univesrity’s [sic] faculty union is hoping to protect its members from the impact of Michigan’s right-to-work law, which takes effect in the spring. The union wants the university to lock dues into its next contract for 10 years, to shield members from the law banning mandatory membership and fees as a condition of employment.

Posted by: Reginald FitzUrse, Hugh de Moreville, William de Tracy, and Richard le Breton at February 08, 2013 04:36 PM (e8kgV)

248 Does anyone else read "Freebeacon" and see Free Bacon?

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 08, 2013 04:36 PM (QM5S2)

249
You know what really was fast and furious -- the election results on Nov. 7th.

Posted by: The Kock Bretheren, idyllic cuntservative libertardians masquerading as corporate shills, with suppo at February 08, 2013 04:36 PM (OzEqi)

250 118 Deanardo LiCaprio is swimmin' with naked wimmenz in Miami
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 08, 2013 04:04 PM (jucos)

He's a ass douche, but not for doing that.

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at February 08, 2013 04:37 PM (XvrTA)

251 Posted by: Prescient11 at February 08, 2013 04:14 PM (tVTLU)

got an email with a very interesting set of maps a couple days ago...

Put Voting Stats by county (ie Repub county vs Dem country)... up agianst a Map of Murder Rate, by county...

The corelation is scary...

(sent it to Ace a couple days ago... was hoping he'd post it somewhere...)

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 08, 2013 04:38 PM (lZBBB)

252 245 That's bold talk for a one eyed fat man.


Posted by: Roland THTG at February 08, 2013 04:34 PM (QM5S2)


Fill your hands you Son of a Bitch!

Posted by: Rooster Cogburn at February 08, 2013 04:39 PM (lZBBB)

253 Hmm, Shirley. I'm not a coffee enema specialist but I play one on TV and maybe Bob's not getting enough at home? I recommend you try Fister's Crystals for that fresh-brewed taste.

Posted by: dr kildare at February 08, 2013 04:42 PM (ORGYc)

254 @231 Remember when TFG schooled Ole Mitt on how we had these big ships now, that airplanes could land on, and that's why we didn't need bayonets?

Well, we had 12 of the motherfuckers when he showed up, and we're down to 9.
That's a lot of goddamned food stamps, ain't it.

Somewhere an ocean is missing its task force.

Posted by: comatus at February 08, 2013 04:42 PM (qaVK+)

255 Yes, Roland, I always read it as "Free bacon" the first read through. The mind sees what it wants to.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 08, 2013 04:43 PM (ORGYc)

256
"239I think GM should come out with a model called "The Assault" or Assault 4X4 etc"

Em-50 Urban Assault Vehicle.

Posted by: Sgt. Hulka at February 08, 2013 04:44 PM (+iUsQ)

257 I thought all of the MSM and liberal blogsphere were plants, of the kudzu variety.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2013 04:46 PM (PMCY9)

258 Do kudzu grow in shit, Anna?

Posted by: andycanuck at February 08, 2013 04:46 PM (ORGYc)

259 If I wanted to "help people" I'd've joineed the Peace Fucking Corps.

I am late here, but this is whyIread this blog, insight like this

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 08, 2013 04:48 PM (nTgAI)

260 Off topic but CRAZY some dude just tried to start a civil war and somehow get "right wingers" to fight the government. His political affiliation isn't named and he tried to blow up a a BOA branch so obviously an OWS member.
http://tinyurl.com/aernqcr

Posted by: Nate in New Orleans at February 08, 2013 04:51 PM (lhX9P)

261 Just another Piers Morgan viewer, Nate.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 08, 2013 04:52 PM (ORGYc)

262 Andycanuck, kudzu was brought to the US south as an erosion control measure. Big mistake as it grows fast and its tendrils will choke other plants and even kill trees as it engulfs them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2013 04:52 PM (PMCY9)

263 Who knew House of Cards was so spot on, eh?

Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at February 08, 2013 04:54 PM (D8pR3)

264 voxxxi? I love that site! ...oh wait, only two X's...

Posted by: Bob Menendez at February 08, 2013 04:59 PM (Y5I9o)

265 260 nate in NOLA,

yeah it is the damndest thing....they keep on hiding from their fans waving to their cameras...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 05:01 PM (LRFds)

266 So...question.

Can we charge all of Congress in a RICO suit? Just curious. You know...for hypothetical reasons.

Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at February 08, 2013 05:04 PM (D8pR3)

267 Llaneza - new adjective describing an overly ambitious wanker.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2013 05:06 PM (PMCY9)

268 Ace, I have just a small favor to ask. Could you start posting regularly about how smoking hot you find fat chicks? Just, you know, make a reference here and there.


Create some "buzz.". Get some positive energy goin'.

Thanks, man. Appreciate it!

Posted by: Megan M at February 08, 2013 05:08 PM (RYJ6m)

269 "Mig Doney Donor" s.b."Mig Boney Donor". Other than that, what an amazing hypothetical example.

Posted by: sherlock at February 08, 2013 05:24 PM (bCSgp)

270
There is indeed praise and solidarity for the left wing killer on the loose.
Comments at the LA Times, that I read this morning, was about 50/50 on the guy.

That's what we're dealing with.

Posted by: Who Knows at February 08, 2013 05:29 PM (W+Itt)

271 270 Who Knows,

if they want to play they need not sing they just have to bring it

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 05:30 PM (LRFds)

272
"Mig Doney Donor" s.b."Mig Boney Donor". Other than that, what an amazing hypothetical example.
Or, "Big donkey boner." Rhymes, so it's all good.
Correct Exit Question answer: It's who they are. It's what they do.

Posted by: Gulermo at February 08, 2013 05:32 PM (f+EPI)

273
#270 sven, one thing for sure.

He won't be having an open casket funeral.

Posted by: Who Knows at February 08, 2013 05:33 PM (W+Itt)

274 That's three a day.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 08, 2013 04:29 PM (/kI1Q)

Of course the morning one is the real pick-me-up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2013 05:38 PM (673KB)

275 Do kudzu grow in shit

It grows everywhere else...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 08, 2013 05:39 PM (GBXon)

276 Your cynicism is disappointing. Our great Republic was designed to be immune from the machinations of self-serving politicians.

Posted by: Frank Underwood, D-South Carolina at February 08, 2013 06:11 PM (fscec)

277
Campaign finance reform and healthcare reform were both bogus astroturf issues.

Posted by: Cui Bono at February 08, 2013 06:18 PM (FkA2W)

278 I wish we knew all their new aliases.

They could be getting funding again, for all we know.


Follow the perps, not their myriad of fronts.

Posted by: @PurpAv at February 08, 2013 07:11 PM (J6hHs)

279 278 Purp Av,

Which requires a defacto intelligence agency for the GOP...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 08, 2013 08:59 PM (LRFds)

280 "Exit Question: How many times per day do you imagine this exact
scenario plays out -- in media, in "grassroots organizations," in
Congress and in the White House?"

Answer: 537! (or 1/2 Obama)

Posted by: George LeS at February 09, 2013 07:11 PM (C4s3i)






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