San Francisco's Plastic Bag Ban Kills About 5 People A Year
I was aware of the negative economic consequences of plastic bag bans and plastic bag taxes, both for bag manufacturers and businesses that use the bags. I was also aware that when you raise the price of things (as the plastic bag tax does in places like D.C.), you make things harder for the people least able to adjust to arbitrary price increases -- the poor. And I was aware that any environmental benefit we're likely to see from bag bans and bag taxes is speculative at best.
I was not aware that the plastic bag bans have a death toll, as Ramesh Ponnuru writes in Bloomberg:Warning of disease may seem like an over-the-top scare tactic, but research suggests there’s more than anecdote behind this industry talking point. In a 2011 study, four researchers examined reusable bags in California and Arizona and found that 51 percent of them contained coliform bacteria. The problem appears to be the habits of the reusers. Seventy-five percent said they keep meat and vegetables in the same bag. When bags were stored in hot car trunks for two hours, the bacteria grew tenfold. [...] Klick and Wright estimate that the San Francisco ban results in a 46 percent increase in deaths from foodborne illnesses, or 5.5 more of them each year. They then run through a cost-benefit analysis employing the same estimate of the value of a human life that the Environmental Protection Agency uses when evaluating regulations that are supposed to save lives. They conclude that the anti-plastic-bag policies can’t pass the test -- and that’s before counting the higher health-care costs they generate.Of course, this is common sense. There's a reason we keep food in refrigerators and discard or wash packaging when we're done with it. But washing the heap of reusable cloth bags in the back of the car? I'll admit: I never have. (I also usually just use plastic bags. There's no bag ban or tax in Virginia and the bags make excellent bin liners.) Norovirus, which causes diarrhea and vomiting, was already known to be spread by reusable grocery bags at the time Los Angeles adopted its bag ban. The additional deaths and greater healthcare costs of the bag ban do not appear to have given environmental activists much pause. Naturally, enviroweenies have a long history of ignoring the human cost of their harebrained green ideas.
Comments
Posted by: eman at February 06, 2013 08:48 AM (j7rp0)
Funny, I use my plastic shopping bags for cleaning up after pets, OR for carrying a lunch to work (and taking the dirty dishes home...) OR cleaning out the car, and they're free. Heck, I got more than I can use.
But liberals are the smart ones.
Posted by: delayna at February 06, 2013 09:34 AM (KnC4k)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at February 06, 2013 09:35 AM (YsIAN)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 09:35 AM (LRFds)
Sssshhhhh! Maybe they'll shit themselves to death. Win-win!
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 09:35 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Vic at February 06, 2013 09:35 AM (53z96)
Posted by: The International Brotherhood of Hemp Bag Weavers at February 06, 2013 09:35 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: jewells45 at February 06, 2013 09:36 AM (u25eL)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 09:37 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: jewells45 at February 06, 2013 09:39 AM (u25eL)
"Don't give plastic or paper bags to the third world! That's bad for the environment! Give them reusable grocery bags to carry their poultry/vegetables/bits of dead animal/fruits in! Sure they have no refrigeration and depend on food preservation techniques like fermentation and rot to keep their food edible, but nothing coud POSSIBLY go wrong."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 09:39 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BignJames at February 06, 2013 09:39 AM (Sg0G/)
Now, grocery stores will be required to give you a new/clean reusable bag when you bring your own from home, and they will be responsible for washing the returned bags (complete with occasional state inspections).
I really wish I were kidding.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 09:39 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: backhoe at February 06, 2013 09:40 AM (ULH4o)
There are millions of people a year in the US who get a case of the runs every year due to bad kitchen habits but very few of them are so stupid that they die.
As for using the reusable bags, they need to be washed. Or at least spray some damn sanitizer in them and do NOT put raw vegetables in the bag without having them wrapped in their own bags.
Posted by: Vic at February 06, 2013 09:40 AM (53z96)
Posted by: jewells45 at February 06, 2013 09:41 AM (u25eL)
Did you know that today is Mary Leakey's 100th birthday?
Google thinks you should know . . . it's IMPORTANT.
Some dead white guy was born on this date, too.
Posted by: least in CO at February 06, 2013 09:42 AM (+B0Np)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 09:42 AM (4df7R)
and paper bags were horrible because trees were killed.
Posted by: ette at February 06, 2013 09:42 AM (nqBYe)
spray some damn sanitizer in them and do NOT put raw vegetables in the
bag without having them wrapped in their own bags.
Here's the problem with that, Vic- sometimes people just don't think about it. Oh, sure, they should and its their fault if they don't. But what if (just as a thought experiment, here) we didn't mandate the use of the reusable bags? That way, people who didn't want to mess with having to wash their bags could just use paper or plastic bags- which they could then "reuse" as trashcan liners or kids' school book covers (remember doing that?).
That's kind of the point here. I have no sympathy for people who elect to use the reusable bags, and don't care for them properly. But people in CA no longer have that choice.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 09:43 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at February 06, 2013 09:43 AM (3ZtZW)
As for people getting sick, once a month I Lysol the hell out of the bags and use a bleach solution on the cooler. Problem solved, but the navel gazers at the local newspaper say we must replace the reusable bags every couple of months.
Posted by: MrCaniac at February 06, 2013 09:43 AM (Zd/NW)
I am very skeptical of "reports" and "studies" like this one. I am sure
that a few people will get a stomach virus with diarrhea over this kind
of crap, but deaths?
=============
Come on, man.
Remember Jack in the Box?
I know you've had food poisoning before. Now imagine you were already sick before you got it.
Then, throw in something like say a virus that destroys your immune system.
Yeah. 5.5 is low for CA.
Posted by: RoyalOil at February 06, 2013 09:44 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 06, 2013 09:44 AM (tqAT4)
for people who elect to use the reusable bags, and don't care for them
properly. But people in CA no longer have that choice.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 09:43 AM (8y9MW)
Some of the stores here in super red SC have started not issuing plastic bags claiming "green" but actually just pinching pennies.
So it isn't just the "mandates" that are causing this now.
Posted by: Vic at February 06, 2013 09:45 AM (53z96)
Yup.
And AllenG nails it...oh, sure, the people who get all sanctimonious about reusable bags will claim they use extra water and energy every week to keep them clean* O_O but you've got all the people who don't plopping their infested bags down on the same checkout surfaces as everyone else. The only way to keep everyone's bags clean is for the stores to do the cleaning themselves.
* not that the low-water low-energy washing machines or the "eco-friendly" detergent-free laundry product can get anything clean...
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 06, 2013 09:45 AM (ZKzrr)
bags claiming "green" but actually just pinching pennies.
I haven't seen that in my part of DFW, but I guess that doesn't surprise me. As long as I had the option, though, my grocery store would find me voting with my wallet.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 09:46 AM (8y9MW)
The little Freud in my head tells me everybody knows this and, really, that's the appeal of doing all these tiny shitty things to masses of people for no demonstrable benefit. If "we" do a lot of this stuff to a lot of people, "we" get to kill a bunch of them and act like we didn't. That's exciting.
Posted by: oblig. at February 06, 2013 09:46 AM (cePv8)
Market-driven solutions rarely turn out badly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2013 09:47 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: jakeman at February 06, 2013 09:48 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 09:48 AM (8y9MW)
yeah it's pretty funny how schizoid the nation is on CDC actions and oversight vis a vis outbreaks but GAIA over ALL types just shrug...
ah well I'm 40 not my problem for too much longer I guess...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 09:48 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Egyptian Minister of the War on Women at February 06, 2013 09:48 AM (LpQbZ)
and paper bags were horrible because trees were killed.
And plastic is OIL!!11eleventy!!
Anyone know the energy usage/cost of recycling paper vs. plastic? And time to breakdown in a landfill?
They really ARE stupid.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 09:49 AM (GFM2b)
If the person in front of you (who is using the same grocery conveyor thingy that you are) looks like they should be on People Of Walmart: run.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 09:49 AM (8y9MW)
Irradiation.
Sat on an airplane 8 years ago from a guy who had proved using the conveyer belt as the irradiation source would sanitize and preserve the food passing on it.
Fucking Greenies.
Technology really can save lives and these fuckers think of a damned drum is like a magical spell.
Posted by: RoyalOil at February 06, 2013 09:50 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 09:50 AM (GFM2b)
Vic, I absolutely believe that norovirus from unwashed bags can lead to deaths. Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's impossible.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 09:50 AM (VtjlW)
The left's reflexive hatred of DDT caused millions upon millions of Malaria deaths worldwide. And that death toll increases every year.
If you asked a liberal about that, however, they'd immediately become confused and within moments suggest that you're a racist. Or whatever. Or they'd simply smile, preen and nod and then order another Skyy martini.
Which brings up the crucial point: Leftism is a mental disorder, not an actual political ideology.
Everything the left does has untoward and unwarranted results, often of the catastrophic variety. Gun control = more gun violence. Rent control = higher rents. The "war on poverty" = no change or even increases in poverty rates. "Affirmative action" = no change or even declines in minority participation rates. "Living wages" = less employment. Emissions caps = higher utilities bills and no real change in pollutant levels. Higher minimum wages = lower employment. Etc.
But you can't even discuss these matters with leftists. They're lost in space. Loco in the membrane.
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at February 06, 2013 09:51 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: jakeman at February 06, 2013 09:51 AM (96M6e)
The grocery bag plastic is a by-product of natural gas production.
The people who don't want this carbon "sequestered" in a plastic bag in a landfill are the same people who want to shut down power plants over carbon. Go fig.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 06, 2013 09:51 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at February 06, 2013 09:52 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: Vic at February 06, 2013 09:35 AM (53z96)
Hehe.
Look at it this way: Ace's brilliance takes time to formulate, and, aren't you at the edge of your seat while waiting? Isn't it worth the wait?
Posted by: beach is suckin' up at February 06, 2013 09:52 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 09:52 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: lauraw at February 06, 2013 09:52 AM (IkC0S)
nor does it mean we should shrug...if Greentards had separate cities and separate groceries and I had a 100% guarantee my life would not be impacted by their idiocy I'd be all for their shooting dice with the Gods...
they don't and they still do....
they banned DDT, they just got DCon banned....they constantly and consistently undermine public health.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 09:52 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at February 06, 2013 09:52 AM (epxV4)
SF has more to worry about than puke bags.
Posted by: Roy at February 06, 2013 09:53 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: jakeman at February 06, 2013 09:53 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Bud Norton at February 06, 2013 09:53 AM (6cOMd)
Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at February 06, 2013 09:53 AM (xGX1p)
Posted by: jewells45 at February 06, 2013 09:41 AM (u25eL)
Same here. It ain't rocket surgery.
Posted by: rickl at February 06, 2013 09:54 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 06, 2013 09:54 AM (hEHas)
There you have it....yup DDT, DCon, hell they'll get around to outlawing medical aid sometime soon...
they are self-loathing assholes who lack the courage to use the 9mm migraine fixer on themselves and over time decide to play Russian Roulette with the human race instead.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 09:55 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Cargonet Manufacturer at February 06, 2013 09:55 AM (eEfYn)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/326bqws
Posted by: Thorvald at February 06, 2013 09:55 AM (1V6Pv)
If you asked a liberal about that, however, they'd immediately become confused and within moments suggest that you're a racist.
Who is the real racist? You, who wants to prevent deaths, or the enviroweenie that condemned third worlders to die? Why do they H8 little brown peoples?
Making enviroweenie's heads explode is fun AND free!
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 09:55 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 09:56 AM (gmeXX)
I went to the cited "study", which was done by two lawyers oddly enough. There are substantial methodologic problems with the study, not least of which is the use of secondary sources for data, and failure to account for all of the thousands of other potential sources of E. coli infection. Although the "researchers" showed some statistical changes, they do not by any stretch of the imagination prove causation. While common sense tells me that a cloth bag that has held a leaky package of ground beef is yucky, and I am inclined to believe there are unintended consequences of virtually all central planning legislation, this study does not really make the case convincingly.
The other major problem with the study is using that data to "estimate" (or perhaps "fabricate" is a better word) 'x' number of deaths attributable to the cloth bags.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2013 09:56 AM (qqZuQ)
"The grocery bag plastic is a by-product of natural gas production"
^^This. Most folks, however, seem to think that they're somehow produced from that nasty brown sticky oil stuff...
Posted by: Jess1 at February 06, 2013 09:57 AM (lbiWb)
The irony for me is, since I use cloth bags, I use the small plastic bags from produce to also hold any meat I purchase to keep my cloth bags clean.
I like the cloth bags because they hold a lot, and easier for me to carry in from my car. And, I do wash them occasionally.
I always thought, what a coup for the grocery stores. They charge for the plastic bags, now, while they do not need to purchase as many themselves, but the savings does not get passed on to us.
And, then there are Glad bags... they may have seen an uptick in purchases. Dunno.
Posted by: beach shopper at February 06, 2013 09:57 AM (LpQbZ)
The only problem with this, AtC, is that others who AREN'T so prudent about how and when they use their reusable bags are using the same conveyors and gorcery store surfaces as you. So be careful where you put your bag down!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 09:57 AM (4df7R)
I'm kinda partial to a 69. But hey, if you can get a 42 to work for you...
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 09:59 AM (GFM2b)
Now imagine you're in a city that has enacted a ban on plastic bags, and you don't have that option.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 09:59 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 06, 2013 09:59 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: JDTAY at February 06, 2013 09:59 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:00 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: JDTAY at February 06, 2013 09:59 AM (a0nis)
Better yet, let's just ban food. No food, no food-borne illness. BOOM!
You're welcome, America.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:02 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2013 09:56 AM (qqZuQ)
---Well hell. Now it must be time to study how all this special wrapping of food to go into the re-usable bags has increased overall plastic use in grocery stores. Make up data if needed. Go for the Bellesilles Award!
Posted by: RioBravo at February 06, 2013 10:02 AM (eEfYn)
Our refusal to ram their shit back up their ass has it in our light bulbs, toilet flow, food choices, firearms, etc etc etc....
they need stopped and eventually if we don't trun back the tide they're gonna need killed.
They will "choose assisted suicide" for us....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:02 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:02 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:02 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: lauraw at February 06, 2013 10:03 AM (IkC0S)
"So be careful where you put your bag down"
^^This (part deux) - before Christmas shopping ran into a (leftwing/econut) friend @ the store, who plopped their bag o'goodness right into the left behind "juices" from the bagperson in front - w/unwrapped veggies packaged meats inside. Needless to say, we didn't eat @ their place when invited over during the holidays...
Our local Safeway now equips each register w/a spray bottle of cleaner paper towels to keep the "bagging" half of the belt clean.
Posted by: Jess1 at February 06, 2013 10:03 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: lauraw at February 06, 2013 10:03 AM (IkC0S)
OMG if you ever did that, PLEASE have a hidden camera on your person. I NEED video of that reaction.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Tally Whacker at February 06, 2013 10:04 AM (RG1F5)
or using a public restroom and then not having paper towels to open the bathroom door? hoping my blouse has enough length to use as a glove.
nevermind buffets. just . not. doing. it.!
ok i'm not obsessed but ..
no i'm not!
yick.
Posted by: ette at February 06, 2013 10:04 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: jakeman at February 06, 2013 09:48 AM (96M6e)
Gaia friendly germ warfare delivery system.
Posted by: Invictus at February 06, 2013 10:05 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:05 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: John has a long mustache at February 06, 2013 10:05 AM (evdj2)
So what? These are libs from San Fran. I couldn't care less if they died.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:05 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 09:59 AM (4df7R)
You know, I have this huge mental block where I guess I'm just flatly refusing to accept this is the fact because it's so fucking stupid. How is the meat being wrapped up in the first place? I mean, if you go to the meat counter and get a couple of steaks, what, they just hand them over to you dripping blood without wrapping them in plastic first? How about veggies, there are no bags to put them in? I just dump the lettuce and potatoes and carrots and peppers (let's pretend I actually eat veggies m'kay?) in the cart? That is such an obvious disease vector I don't know where to begin.
Hell, when I go to the local farmer's market, I put each thing into its own bag to prevent cross contamination. I usually do wash the bags out after that even though the farmer's market is probably cleaner than my local grocery store.
I don't get the need some people have to try to hurl us all back to the 16th century. I really don't.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:05 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Infidelswine at February 06, 2013 10:06 AM (/SPJE)
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Posted by: John has a long mustache at February 06, 2013 10:05 AM (evdj2)
I've got bingo!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:06 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Bed Bug at a Posh NY Hotel at February 06, 2013 10:06 AM (s/ydT)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 06, 2013 10:06 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Thorvald at February 06, 2013 10:07 AM (1V6Pv)
Its why it is important to fight for liberty at all levels and over everything. To this day, I have constant arguments with my people who consider themselves fairly libertarian/conservatives over smoking bans. They don't see the big deal, and I just tell them you are trading away your liberty a little at a time.
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:07 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:07 AM (fWAjv)
That's how this works, right?
Posted by: DangerGirl - Stop this thing, I want off at February 06, 2013 10:07 AM (5F76G)
Which I am certain they laugh about as they craft them....
heh it really is funny we entrust our health to people who fantasize about murdering us...
"Forward!"
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:07 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:05 AM (VtjlW)
Perhaps you'd prefer the 6th century?
Posted by: Islamists, Leftists, What's the Difference? at February 06, 2013 10:08 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: lauraw at February 06, 2013 10:08 AM (IkC0S)
Posted by: Thorvald at February 06, 2013 10:08 AM (1V6Pv)
CA will be terminally boned very, very soon.
Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2013 10:08 AM (UzPAd)
Nanny Bloomberg has lived down to every expectation I had as a boy over the smoking Nazis...
"just one more thing!" ain't just for Columbo anymore....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:09 AM (LRFds)
But I did lose about 7 lbs.
Posted by: navybrat at February 06, 2013 10:09 AM (0pxtK)
I expect butcher's paper is used in most cases where plastic and styrofoam packaging is not available. But I think that, when it comes to deli counters and the like, there's still use of plastic packing material. It's just the overwhelming use of plastic shopping bags that seems to get the greenweenies so wee-weed up.
They would NOT like to see the mass of the things I've got stuffed in my bottom desk drawer. Damned useful.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:09 AM (4df7R)
No omelets without cracking eggs, you know.
Posted by: BuddyPC at February 06, 2013 10:09 AM (mdJEb)
It's time we had a national conversation on the danger of the NAACP running interference for gangbangers in schools....if it saves just one life....
oddly only they get to play this game....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:10 AM (LRFds)
Right before they imposed a dime tax on bags, two goofs knocked on door asking me to sign a petition to increase it to a quarter. They acted shocked that I refused to sign it.
Posted by: waldo at February 06, 2013 10:10 AM (lSaJq)
Rand giving a foreign policy speech at 11am EST.
LuapNor Foreign Policy - insanity?
We'll see.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 06, 2013 10:10 AM (xAtAj)
Plastic.
Which reminds me of this little tidbit about plastic and weight loss from, none other than, Dr. Oz:
Leanness Law # 2: Don’t Eat Plastic
You’re probably thinking, Well, I don’t generally eat plastic. Ah, but you do. Chances are that you’re among the 75% of Americans with detectable levels of phthalates in their bodies. Phthalates are synthetic chemicals found in plastics that lower testosterone, and trick our bodies into storing fat. Here’s what you can do to reduce your exposure:
1) Never heat food in plastic containers or put plastic items in the dishwasher, which can damage them and increase leaching. BPA leaches from polycarbonate sports bottles 55 times faster when exposed to boiling liquids as opposed to cold ones, according to a study in the journal Toxicology Letters.
2) Avoid buying fatty foods like meats that are packaged in plastic wrap. Plastic wrap used in supermarkets is mostly PVC, a type of plastic that leaches phthalates; like other obesogens, phthalates are attracted to, and are stored in, fatty tissue. (That’s right – the more fat you have in your body, the more obesogens you’re storing.) So when you buy fatty foods wrapped in PVC, you’re buying extra obesogens. Instead, go right to the butcher counter, and ask the butcher to wrap your meat in brown paper. (By the way, don’t worry about plastic wrap you buy to wrap things at home – most are made from polyethylene – a harmless type of plastic.
3) Cut down on canned goods by choosing fresh or frozen vegetables or tuna in a pouch over canned tuna.
Posted by: beach shopper at February 06, 2013 10:10 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:11 AM (LRFds)
But I'm an old fashion kind of guy who believes in the collective wisdom of the consumer public.
And I'm really pissed off about the lack of phosphates in my diswhasher detergent.
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:11 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:11 AM (fWAjv)
There's an old line which asks, "What do you call a busload of hippies going over a cliff?", and answers "A promising start."
Likewise this. Let's hope that antibiotic resistance and reduced dishwashing efficiency thanks to the phosphate ban kills off many, many more Pelosi voters in Scum Francisco.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 06, 2013 10:12 AM (gqT4g)
"Hell, when I go to the local farmer's market, I put each thing into its own bag to prevent cross contamination."
YOU EARTH8TER!!!
(heh)
Posted by: Jess1 at February 06, 2013 10:12 AM (lbiWb)
Vicious sociopath Garrison Keillor brings you part II of the great plastic bag menace.
Posted by: Thorvald at February 06, 2013 10:12 AM (1V6Pv)
You know what would be perfect? To put veal in a baby seal bag.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:13 AM (VtjlW)
I say again:
We do not bleach underwear because it is white.
Underwear is white so we can bleach it.
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at February 06, 2013 10:13 AM (V3kRK)
Remember Reagan, "don't negotiate with terrorists?"
I mean, it's always total death, doom and destruction for teachers, cops, firemen and soldiers every single time any minor, meager cut to spending is proposed.
And right on cue, some dumb monkeys in the Republican Party jump up and dance--"We can't cut spending now!!!!"
Posted by: RoyalOil at February 06, 2013 10:13 AM (VjL9S)
dishwashing efficiency thanks to the phosphate ban kills off many, many
more Pelosi voters in Scum Francisco.
The homeless population, when not being culled by Ace, are the perfect vectors.
LEAVE THEM ALONE ACE!!! At least for the time being.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:13 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Palerider at February 06, 2013 10:14 AM (cQZV0)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 10:14 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:14 AM (l86i3)
---
Here's the question. If a dime is worth it, why not make it $50. The sold the tax on the idea that it was meant to stop usage, not raise revenue. Its almost as if it was a pure revenue device imposed on the less wealthy under the auspices of doing them a favor for the environment.
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:14 AM (gmeXX)
I slung a lot of heat and am still angry at the FiCon uber alles types but have decided to cheer on the car going over the cliff...
Great! You want to nuke DoD WONDERFUL!
Okay now you're about~31% tops to just balancing the damned budget...."next?"
Nobody wants to acknowledge the elephant in the room...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (LRFds)
Check your kids' bedroom, under the mattress.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (4df7R)
REI, which sells clothing and gear for outdoor adventures
The business experience is a plus, but would you hire a CEO from a uniform manufacturer to tun the Pentagon ?
Posted by: Inside the Ring at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:13 AM (VtjlW)
I felt a great disturbance in Gaia, as if millions of PETA members suddenly cried out in terror and prattle on and on.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (fWAjv)
Underwear is white so we can bleach it.
So THAT'S where the colored underwear go!
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 10:16 AM (GFM2b)
seen day laborer dudes in LA bars that could lick tequila off of a dog's
ass and not be phased by the filth in American cities. Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2013 10:08 AM (UzPAd)
That immunity does fade. A friend at work, a native of India, went home to visit his parents. He got some food from a favorite street cart vendor close to their home. Food that he had eaten dozens of times before he legally immigrated to America. He got so sick with dysentery he almost died. The next time he went to visit, he only ate food that he watched his Mother prepare.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 10:16 AM (kXoT0)
Check your kids' bedroom, under the mattress.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (GQ8sn)
Prolly the only place I havn't looked.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:16 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: MrCaniac at February 06, 2013 09:43 AM That's probably not good enough. It doesn't take that long for the bacteria to multiply and if you use the bag more than once without washing it you're taking a risk. Let's say you use it for plastic bagged meat, No problem right? Except you handled themeat when you bagged it so the plastic bag has the bacteria on the outside.Maybe you don't put anything you think will be contaminated in with the meat. But let's say the next time you use that same bag for cereal or crackers. Now the outside of those boxes are contaminated from the bacteria growing from the meat which you thought was carefully bagged. You open the box which has the bacteria growing on the outside and spread it with your hands to the inside wrapper. That's an extreme example but you get the idea. It's a no win situation unless you use the bags only for frozen food, usethem only for fruit and veggies you're going to wash first, or wash the bagsafter each use. The best answer is to recylce the plastic bags.
Posted by: Deanna at February 06, 2013 10:16 AM (LwfqA)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (GQ8sn)
Uhhhh oh.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:16 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:14 AM (l86i3)
Okay. Breathe. In and out. Nice and calm. Did you check under the car seat? Or in the freezer? What, it's not like I've ever been putting things away and accidentally put my little billfold thingy on top of the ice cream. *shiftyeyes*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:16 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:14 AM (l86i3)
oy
Posted by: beach shopper at February 06, 2013 10:17 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Inside the Ring at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (e8kgV)
----Not when a dumb-ass ex-Senator will do just fine!
Posted by: RioBravo at February 06, 2013 10:17 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:16 AM (VtjlW)
Yep, tore the place apart. I think I'm going to start cancelling cards.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:18 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Deanna at February 06, 2013 10:18 AM (LwfqA)
You came home last night with your wallet, right? Then relax! It's in your house....somewhere.
Did you maybe use your wallet during the ride home? Sometimes I buy something at a drive-through and I have to pull my wallet out of my backpocket which means I have to unbuckle the seat belt. I don't want to go through the hassle of putting it back in my pocket again, so I leave it on the center console in the cup-holder.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:19 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Inside the Ring at February 06, 2013 10:15 AM (e8kgV)
What's her opinion on eminent domain, offshore oil drilling, and fracking? Because I don't think marketing fleece jackets to hikers is at quite the same level of expertise as negotiating for (or against, as the case would be) the Keystone pipeline.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:19 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:19 AM (fWAjv)
or anything to work here. Tried html but that only makes it more of a
mess.
Double space between paragraphs.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:20 AM (GQ8sn)
I just flew in from a weekend of baby seal clubbing, and boy are my arms tired!
*Rimshot*
Thank you, thank you very much! Club the veal.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 06, 2013 10:20 AM (NF2Bf)
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Actually, the best answer is to let the consumer do whatever the hell they want with the bags (you know other than littering).
I like to use them to clean up the dog poop in the back yard. Or to give to my infant to shake because he likes the noise. Of course, now the left will think I'm a terrible parent because he could put it over his head and suffocate. Which would be a problem if I gave him a bag and left him alone unattended. Do whatever you want with your plastic bags. Just leave me alone.
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:20 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:21 AM (l86i3)
Check the last pair of pants you wore. I tend to leave it in the kahki's I wear to work when I switch to jeans or shorts when I get home. And have went to work the following morning without it because it was still in the jeans.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 10:21 AM (GFM2b)
Hmmm.....
I would still cancel the cards if I were you.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:21 AM (GQ8sn)
Sod off, swampies!
Posted by: toby928© for TB at February 06, 2013 10:22 AM (evdj2)
I would still cancel the cards if I were you.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:21 AM (GQ8sn)
Meh, there her cards anyway, I don't make any money.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:22 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: navybrat at February 06, 2013 10:22 AM (0pxtK)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:21 AM (l86i3)
LOL. Never assume, with anyone.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:22 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:23 AM (GQ8sn)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodegradable_bags
Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2013 10:24 AM (JJdOG)
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:24 AM (gmeXX)
re the plastic bags -- My mom neatly folds* them into little squares. She then donates them to places like Goodwill and SA for their use in their retail outlets. She does this not because she is a greenie but is frugal and kind hearted.
*She folds them so neatly that I accuse her of ironing them.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 06, 2013 10:24 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Thorvald at February 06, 2013 10:24 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:14 AM (l86i3)
have small children? maybe under the couch with the credit cards missing but found in the dvd player or used as a the floor in that lego building.
i lost my keyes one day. looked everywhere , had locks rekeyed, next week i was mowing the lawn and the ring of keys were stuck on the chain link fence wire.
tots!
Posted by: ette at February 06, 2013 10:24 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - there on Thunder Island! at February 06, 2013 10:25 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: ette at February 06, 2013 10:26 AM (nqBYe)
Ha! They were right under Michelle's butt cheek. She didn't even notice. What a blooper.
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at February 06, 2013 10:26 AM (9Hh8J)
I do not recommend it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:26 AM (4df7R)
tame case, in that it only lasted about 48 hours. Man, it SUCKED.
Projectile vomiting? Yep. Unspeakable bathroom excretions? Check. Nearly
passing out more than once from dehydration and/or exhaustion? You
betcha.
I do not recommend it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:26 AM
If you had to pick between norovirus and peanut allergies...?
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:27 AM (GQ8sn)
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That's great. And if greenies want to recycle the bags or not use them. That's great too. Just don't tell me how to use them. I honestly can't believe that cities with all the problems they have focus on plastic bags. Actually I can believe it, I just can't believe citizens fall for it. Actually I can believe that. I can't believe we have to waste energy arguing against people over these stupid ideas.
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:27 AM (gmeXX)
On Topic, Folks that use those cloth bags immediately receive the "You are stupid hippy douche" Attitude from me. Sorry rons that use them.
To think that meat drippings left in a cloth petri dish can't mutate into some bad stuff is just silly.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:27 AM (l86i3)
Mother of two Sarai Sierra, 33, was found dead from a ferocious blow to the skull in a seedy area of Istanbul last Saturday after failing to show up for a Jan. 21 flight home to New York.
“The first people she met up with were a criminal element,” the source said of Sierra, who flew to Turkey Jan. 7, then to Amsterdam on Jan. 15 and Munich on Jan. 16 before heading back to Istanbul Jan. 19.
The FBI suspects slain Staten Island mom Sarai Sierra (seen walking in Istanbul) met with criminal types in Turkey.
The FBI is in Turkey investigating the case, and is looking into a possible connection to drug trafficking — among other lines of inquiry, a source said.
“There are some witness reports that she was seen with sketchy characters,” said the source,
Posted by: Thunderb at February 06, 2013 10:28 AM (Dnbau)
I dunno. It sounds like it'd be a great party gift. Maybe we could send a sample to Imadinnerjacket.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 10:28 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Deanna at February 06, 2013 10:28 AM (LwfqA)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 10:21 AM (GFM2b)
I have a coat that magically produces money! It's awesome!
It's not that I shove change into my coat pocket and then forget that I did that instead of putting it in my purse. Nope. The coat produces money. It's. Magic.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:28 AM (VtjlW)
----
You know what might come in handy at such a time --- PLASTIC BAGS that are easy to dispose.
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:29 AM (gmeXX)
"Which reminds me of this little tidbit about plastic and weight loss from, none other than, Dr. Oz:"
I sincerely hope that what youfound isa joke - perhaps from The Onion? Please tell me that's not being presented as "factual".
Posted by: Jess1 at February 06, 2013 10:29 AM (lbiWb)
“There are some witness reports that she was seen with sketchy characters,” said the source,
Posted by: Thunderb at February 06, 2013 10:28 AM (Dnbau)
That whole story has goofy printed all over it. I would have to beleive she was up to no good.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:29 AM (l86i3)
After I bring home groceries in plastic bags, I often put them in my car to hold trash. Once they're full, I tie them up and throw them away. They're great that way.
Now, when I throw them away, I throw them in a trash can. Which usually has a plastic liner. So is the next step "reusable trash liners?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (8y9MW)
Great list, Tsar Nic. A keeper.
Posted by: Mindful STILL banned on the desktop at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (1s+pS)
Chonny was gut poy, gut poy!~
Oh meestah please won't you help me?
I dunno...maybe if DHS was more worried with you know criminal law and less with smearing the right they could have had her safely in prison?
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (LRFds)
Fuck. Well, 18 years is a long time. (She got two extra months from when I had it scheduled last time. Fuck if I am going to have her in pain.)
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (fWAjv)
Remember the Imam from the proposed Ground Zero Mosque? From the NY Post
The married founder and former religious leader of the controversial Ground Zero mosque project allegedly embezzled millions from his Muslim charity to lavish gifts on a special lady friend, buy a sports car and vacation around the globe, according to a lawsuit filed by a disgruntled financial backer.
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf treated his Cordoba Initiative and Shariah Index Project, nonprofits meant to promote religious tolerance and fight anti-Muslim bigotry, like a personal piggy bank, the suit filed by Westchester businessman Robert Leslie Deak alleges.
Over several years, Rauf had accepted $167,000 from Deak, a self-described Muslim convert and Middle East expert who advises the Center for a New American Security and the National Defense University Foundation.
But that money was “utilized by Rauf for his personal use” along with his third wife, Daisy Khan, according to the Manhattan Supreme Court lawsuit.
Their spending was “not limited to a luxury sports car, personal real estate, entertainment, lavish trips and vacations with Evelyn Adorno and support of Evelyn Adorno, gifts and other personal uses,” the suit alleges.
“It is my information that she and Imam Feisal have a long-standing personal relationship,”
Posted by: Thunderb at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:00 AM (gmeXX)
Because you aren't smart enough to make your own decisions.
Posted by: The Ivy League at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:27 AM (GQ8sn)
Well at least with the norovirus I never really thought I'd DIE. I just kind of WISHED I would. But then it went away and I was better. Unlike the last time I had to go to the hospital with the stupid peanut thing and the nurses were trying not to panic because my blood pressure was so low and I was starting to see pink clouds.
Also, peanut allergies mean I can't eat most chocolate. Tell me that shouldn't be a human rights violation.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:28 AM (VtjlW)
When I was young, single and cool. I had a pair of leather pants like that.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (l86i3)
Sorry. One of the toughest things you'll ever do.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:32 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:32 AM (GQ8sn)
I had a spate where I would put money (usually coins) in my pockets and would reach in later to find paper money. I was about half-convinced my change was copulating.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 10:33 AM (8y9MW)
the "You are stupid hippy douche" Attitude from me.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:27 AM (l86i3)
It's hard to avoid that assumption.
Although I will often shorten it to "you are stupid."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2013 10:34 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:32 AM (l86i3)
I like to think that I am ready, but know that I'm not.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:34 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: SH at February 06, 2013 10:29 AM (gmeXX)
Heh, tell me about it. Mind you my mind was elsewhere at three in the morning, in a pitch black bedroom, trying to stumble to the bathroom and managing to run headfirst into the door on the way.
I didn't make it, btw. Thank God for vinyl floors.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:34 AM (4df7R)
thought I'd DIE. I just kind of WISHED I would. But then it went away
and I was better. Unlike the last time I had to go to the hospital with
the stupid peanut thing and the nurses were trying not to panic because
my blood pressure was so low and I was starting to see pink clouds.
Also, peanut allergies mean I can't eat most chocolate. Tell me that shouldn't be a human rights violation.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (4df7R)
Oh damn, that's too bad about the chocolate and Valentine's is around the corner. I guess sending you Reese Cups is out.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:34 AM (GQ8sn)
The base material used in the production of LDPE is ethylene (C2H4).
The base material used in the production of ethylene is ethane (C2H6, i.e. a two carbon atom chain)
The principal source of ethane is natural gas (NOT dead dino oil), which contains a significant percentage of ethane along with the Methane.
Ethane can't be piped along with methane to natural gas and LNG consumers because consumer natural gas fired units can't handle its higher burn temp characteristics. The ethane has to be separated out from the mix.
The separated ethane is what becomes plastic bags and operates special ethane friendly co-gen operations at the processing plant.
Prior to the widespread adoption of plastics, the ethane was treated as a waste gas and burned off increasing CO2 emissions.
The use of plastic bags actually combats global warming by sequestering carbon that would otherwise become CO2
The leftists will never explain this manufacturing reality to you. EVER.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 06, 2013 10:35 AM (J6hHs)
If Kai the homeless surfer finds out about this, it could be all over for the reuseable bag industry. smash smash su-masH!
(NSFW language)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 06, 2013 10:35 AM (bGlsD)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 06, 2013 10:35 AM (W7ffl)
Gah!!, Panic strikin this morning, I lost my wallet, FARK!!!
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet
"What will you do? WHAT WILL YOU DO?"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 06, 2013 10:35 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:35 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: andycanuck at February 06, 2013 10:35 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (8y9MW)My cousin brings me 25-gallon bags from Del-monte that had previously held spices for spaghetti sauce. We have not bought garbage bags in years.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at February 06, 2013 10:36 AM (RG1F5)
Posted by: andycanuck at February 06, 2013 10:36 AM (ORGYc)
Use their tactics against the green weenies.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:36 AM (x7WAu)
*gasp*
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 06, 2013 10:36 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)
One can be avoided. The other? That's why they make Immodium.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:37 AM (l86i3)
She then donates them to places like Goodwill and SA for their use in
their retail outlets. She does this not because she is a greenie but is
frugal and kind hearted
My Grandmother recycled everything. She washed the Styrofoam trays and plastic trays from food and reused them. She took the dishwater and watered her garden. Back when the cans food came in were steel, she washed them and flattened them and gave them to Grandpa who took the out to the farm and he used them to patch the barn. Of course, after you and your two sons survive the depression on 80 acres in Oklahoma with just some chickens, a garden, a milk cow, and two plow horses, you learn to be pretty darn frugal. Grandpa was a welder and he could get some work every few months, which paid the taxes and bought salt, sugar, beans, and lard. Until the day he died my Dad would talk about cutting back Blackjack oak and cedar sprouts to keep the land clear.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 10:37 AM (kXoT0)
They will lie to your face if they know the truth. You cannot educate them. I took a hippy I went to college with to a manufacturing plant once.
No impact, "but it's wrong anyway!"
The most powerful words the left wields.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:37 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2013 10:37 AM (JJdOG)
A group of Corrie fanbois must maintain that particular entry.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 06, 2013 10:38 AM (ccXZP)
"Hell, when I go to the local farmer's market, I put each thing into its own bag to prevent cross contamination."
YOU EARTH8TER!!!
(heh)
Posted by: Jess1 at February 06, 2013 10:12 AM (lbiWb)
My wife's favorite snack is cantaloupe -- absolutely every year, we get this dire warning about how people are getting sick from <pick a>virus from contaminated cantaloupe.
Wife has never once been the slightest bit ill from her habit.
It turns out that if you rinse this stuff off with a bit of soap and water under the faucet before you cut it, you've just removed 99% of the problem. Works on almost everything.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 06, 2013 10:38 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:38 AM (4df7R)
Because then they might have to admit that "anthropogenic global warming" is bullshit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 06, 2013 10:38 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:34 AM (fWAjv)
I'm so sorry.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:38 AM (VtjlW)
That's called Children of the Great Depression.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:38 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:39 AM (LRFds)
U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano called Republican lawmakers' insistence that the border be secured before there is immigration reform a flawed argument.
At a stop to inspect border security in El Paso on Tuesday, Napolitano said the argument ignores gains made in illegal immigrant captures as well as seizures of drugs, weapons and currency.
She also said the argument's fundamental flaw is contending that border security is unrelated to interior enforcement such as verification of legal residence of job applicants.
Napolitano said the immigration "system as a whole is badly in need of reform." It is, she said, inextricably linked with interior enforcement, visa reform and the process for legal migration, a pathway to citizenship and earned pathway for those already here.
Posted by: Thunderb at February 06, 2013 10:41 AM (Dnbau)
Pray for the two kids if this proves true.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:41 AM (x7WAu)
Ha,
dropped it in a lake one time canoeing. Then saw it, paddled over, Hey someone lost a wallet. Doh!
Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2013 10:41 AM (JJdOG)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:18 AM (l86i3)
coat pockets
Posted by: beach shopper at February 06, 2013 10:42 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:34 AM (GQ8sn)
Heh. My family loves it when I get candy at Christmas and whatnot, because I always just hand it over to them and say, "Here, got this from a co-worker today. Can't eat it. Enjoy!" And my brother-in-law LOVES Reese's Cups. I bought him a bag of them for Christmas a few years ago. My mother flipped out. "Melissa, those are peanut!"
"Yes, mom, but they're individually wrapped and in a plastic bag. Unless they've weaponized the candy bag industry to target allergy sufferers, I'm pretty sure I'm okay."
The thing that REALLY makes people pity me is when I tell them i can't have Chinese food. Holy crap, I've said that to people and had them look at me like I just told them I had terminal brain cancer.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:42 AM (4df7R)
Saw that, yet drugs are cheaper and easier to get than ever. Hmm. Must be those Guatemalan submarines.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:42 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: beach shopper at February 06, 2013 10:42 AM (LpQbZ)
I found it. In the last place I looked. sitting a foot from my wife.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:43 AM (l86i3)
Where food can be packed in bacteria-encrusted bags, but marijuana must be stored in a baggie.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 06, 2013 10:44 AM (Ec6wH)
Having small animals, I cannot expound enough on the usefulness of plastic grocery bags to clean out cages full of shavings.
Posted by: Karusky at February 06, 2013 10:44 AM (dO4L7)
----
Point of Order
You ALWAYS find things in the last place you looked.
When you find it..... you stop looking.
That is all. Carry On.......
Posted by: fixerupper at February 06, 2013 10:44 AM (9MmIU)
extra months from when I had it scheduled last time. Fuck if I am going
to have her in pain.)
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (fWAjv)
Tears and sympathy for you...RWC. When I had to have my husband's dog put to sleep two years after his death, I thought I would die. But, she was 16.5 and she suddenly started letting out little screams at odd times, even when she was asleep. It started one evening and I could not get an appointment until 5 PM the next day.
The odd thing was, it was incredibly easy on her. I had her cremated and I slipped her ashes into a crack of the earth that had pulled away from his headstone. As much as it hurts to do what is necessary, there is incredible peace to doing the right thing.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 10:45 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:43 AM (l86i3)
"You should have looked there first"
-- jwb's wife's favorite quote
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at February 06, 2013 10:45 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Thunderb at February 06, 2013 10:45 AM (Dnbau)
It was an attempt at comedy. I guess I failed.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:46 AM (l86i3)
I'm... I'm... so sorry for you, M... MWR.
8=^(
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Posted by: andycanuck at February 06, 2013 10:46 AM (ORGYc)
Posted by: The Political Hat at February 06, 2013 10:46 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:34 AM (GQ8sn)
It's not Valentine's Day that's just around the corner, it's the Happiest Day Of The Year aka February 15th aka half price chocolate day.
I will say this discussion is making me want to segregate my reusable bags into cloth bags that are used for boxes and other packaged stuff such as laundry stuff and reusable plastic bags that are used for groceries only with subdivisions for meat and veggies and those get washed every time I use them. I figure if I use my green Wegmans bags (*sob* I miss having a Wegmans so much *sob*) for veggies only and the other ones for other stuff, I can remember that.
Or I can continue to not actually cook for myself and make other people cook for me and lalalalalalalala I can't hear you about what those people are doing to my food. I like that idea better.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:46 AM (VtjlW)
"Honey I just had to get these new shoes."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:46 AM (x7WAu)
But, and this is true in nearly every sphere and on nearly every issue, liberals and leftists always seem to think that they can ignore thousands of years of civilization, so long as their intentions are good.
But it's not the intended consequences that kill you. It's the unintended consequences.
Posted by: The Regular Guy at February 06, 2013 10:47 AM (qHCyt)
The Boob BC "MI-5 wants balck boxes to track 100% of UK internet traffic"
Goody that means we'll have it within 15 years then.....
Ruled Britannia!
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:47 AM (LRFds)
have Chinese food. Holy crap, I've said that to people and had them look
at me like I just told them I had terminal brain cancer.
I guess that also means pad thai is out too. Bummer, you're missing out on some really good food.
And candy!
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:47 AM (GQ8sn)
For me, the last place I look is almost always somewhere I've looked three times already. So it's usually more like the fourth, tenth, twenty-second, AND last place I looked.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:47 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 06, 2013 10:48 AM (Ec6wH)
"Honey I just had to get these new shoes."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:46 AM (x7WAu)
Actually not bad. I've sold more Kindle faster than Dead tree.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:48 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Reform Judaism at February 06, 2013 10:49 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: The Political Hat at February 06, 2013 10:46 AM (Vk2pI)
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East Coast, West Coast, large cities, people of color, alternative lifstyle, registered Democrats....... priceless.
Square state rural teabagging mouthbreathers..... not so much.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 06, 2013 10:49 AM (9MmIU)
Happiest Day Of The Year aka February 15th aka half price chocolate day.
You mean National Diabetic Coma Day!
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:49 AM (GQ8sn)
Negative. You gotta pay extra to get killed by insane policy.
Posted by: @PurpAv at February 06, 2013 10:50 AM (J6hHs)
They get a pass on the body count because they mean well with their policy. - Every Horrible Liberal Idea.
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 06, 2013 10:50 AM (mJkp9)
Crazy talk. The real world began sometime around the date of my birth. Like I have anything to learn from the history of old, dead, probably white, religious people.
Posted by: Leftard McFuckstick at February 06, 2013 10:50 AM (NF2Bf)
Managed to add about 600 words to story last night. So total this week about 1,300 to story. On top of the almost 1,300 for that story idea I jotted down. Hey its progress huh?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:51 AM (x7WAu)
Posted by: Baldy at February 06, 2013 10:51 AM (opS9C)
about 1,300 to story. On top of the almost 1,300 for that story idea I
jotted down. Hey its progress huh?
What is your story about?
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at February 06, 2013 10:51 AM (RFeQD)
Come on, Ezra Klein, it's okay, you can de-sock now
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 06, 2013 10:51 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:51 AM (x7WAu)
OUTSTANDING. I would ditch Sarah for the other. Just saying. That concept is really earth shaking on so many levels.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:52 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:52 AM (x7WAu)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 06, 2013 10:48 AM (Ec6wH)
Nope. Can't have much Asian food at all, since the use of peanut in sauces and as garnish is very common.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)
Ummm...I don't know?
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 10:54 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 06, 2013 10:54 AM (QTHTd)
Could these bags kill as many per year, Nationwide, as Scary Assault Rifles?
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 06, 2013 10:55 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 06, 2013 10:55 AM (Jcd0S)
There's another one coming up April 1, although the 2/15 one doesn't involve cute little bunnies and lambs that go stale because I can't bring myself to bite the heads off.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 06, 2013 10:55 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 10:54 AM (8y9MW)
You realize that would just add fuel to the rumor that you have a blog, right? Don't know if you want to go that route. Could be problematic.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:55 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:51 AM (x7WAu)
What are you using to write? I loooooove Scrivener, particularly the little word goal thingy. Let's suppose, just as a hypothetical, that one was a wee tiny bit barely noticeably competitive. Just a wee little microscopic bit. Seeing that little line inch ever closer to completion may, possibly, hypothetically, just maybe, provide some incentive.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 10:56 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:56 AM (x7WAu)
I can live with that, I suppose.
I've started working on my own novel, too.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 10:56 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at February 06, 2013 10:56 AM (RZ8pf)
Now back to the stupid shit to take my mind off it.
Shrink yourself down and fly around the insides of a 1911.
http://tinyurl.com/apxf9oo
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:58 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 10:58 AM (LRFds)
Uh, yeah...right. The reusable grocery bags. Just so.
Posted by: Senator Menendez - Dominican Cheer Captain at February 06, 2013 10:59 AM (NF2Bf)
But I do have a discount for Scrivener since I did 'win' NaNoWriMo last November with 53k words of story. Just not bought the software.
So working on that November story. Which is why it takes so long to write, revising stuff.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 10:59 AM (x7WAu)
Interesting piece over at The Conversation:
Could Martial Law Be Right Around The Corner For Americans?
http://tinyurl.com/a4mkntv
FEMA camps, Drones, military operations being conducted in major cities, FHP stopping motorists to conduct routine maintenance inspections. Are these the first signs of larger, more intrusive plan to oppress Americans?
Posted by: beach at February 06, 2013 11:00 AM (LpQbZ)
"Turns out they traced it to one of the chaperone mom's reusable grocery bags. "
This person needs flogged in public. My handkerchief is reusable. But I WASH the thing after i use it!
Posted by: Cicero Kid at February 06, 2013 11:01 AM (RG1F5)
Shrink yourself down and fly around the insides of a 1911.
http://tinyurl.com/apxf9oo
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 10:58 AM (fWAjv)
Cool! It was hard to tell what was happening in some spots because of the extreme close-up.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:01 AM (LRFds)
What's that one about?
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:04 AM (x7WAu)
I'm pretty sure I made my feelings known on the ONT pretty clearly, but basically...
Fuck the totalitarian assholes who want to make my life far harder to make themselves feel good. And it is all about feeling good. The reusable bags aren't any bettter for the environment because they don't last long enough to get a return on the environmental costs it took to manufacture them vs a plastic bag.
So, faced with the options of either driving (global warming!) 15 miles round trip or using bacteria infested bags, I'll be driving to the suburbs.
Posted by: Lauren at February 06, 2013 11:04 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: beach at February 06, 2013 11:04 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Pipe Holder at February 06, 2013 11:05 AM (VTeUD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:06 AM (x7WAu)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at February 06, 2013 10:56 AM (RZ8pf)
Girls soccer team? Or is this a different occurrence.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:06 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)
One can be avoided. The other? That's why they make Immodium. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 10:37 AM (l86i3)
If I had to have carnal relations with one of those goat-facking imams, my lovely girls would be garnished with Attar of Strychnine.
Yes, women's unclean breasts are the problem, not the anus' of the boys they sodomize.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 11:07 AM (kXoT0)
Colonel Mustard.
In the anteroom.
With the candlestick holder.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:07 AM (GQ8sn)
OSP says "Too many Irons in the fire puts out the flame." You write so well, FOCUS.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 06, 2013 11:07 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: eleven at February 06, 2013 11:08 AM (KXm42)
that you have a blog, right? Don't know if you want to go that route.
Could be problematic.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at February 06, 2013 10:5
Just another anonymous, nameless, faceless individual on a website.
Posted by: Senator Menenendez hoochie koo at February 06, 2013 11:08 AM (bGlsD)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Have you seen this time sink?
http://tinyurl.com/p6x3gu
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:09 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 06, 2013 11:09 AM (0nyYS)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 06, 2013 11:09 AM (0q2P7)
And a ticket bought in Lansing, MI won the $19 million Mega Million annuity last night.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:09 AM (x7WAu)
http://tinyurl.com/p6x3gu
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:09 AM (fWAjv)
Yeah, I was given that link by the morons here when I was shopping around. Too bad you can't buy any of that now. It's all "back ordered".
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:10 AM (GQ8sn)
I think it's totally worth the $20 but ymmv. The outlining features are great and the name generator provides hours of avoiding actually writing fun!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 11:10 AM (VtjlW)
http://tinyurl.com/a4mkntv
FEMA camps, Drones, military operations being conducted in major
cities, FHP stopping motorists to conduct routine maintenance
inspections. Are these the first signs of larger, more intrusive plan
to oppress Americans?
Posted by: beach at February 06, 2013 11:00 AM (LpQbZ)
It will be so much easier to manage if we all just do the right thing and turn in our icky guns and any ammo.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 11:11 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: eleven at February 06, 2013 11:11 AM (KXm42)
'Round these parts you can drop your bags off at the grocery store, where a company compresses them (and/or melts I forget) and turns them into the material that plastic decking and the new picnic tables are made out of.
It's a win/win for them, they basically get their materials for free and the market for cheap-ish durable materials is...well high.
Even though higher upfront costs I recall seeing that those plastic picnic tables save money in the long run because you could take a freaken hunting knife to them and barely make a dent (as opposed to wooden tables...which..well you know.)
And plastic decking is picking up (at least in the midwest) due to the low maintenance of it.
But the environment or something is harmed because I use plastic bags.
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at February 06, 2013 11:12 AM (wGOqj)
Posted by: polynikes at February 06, 2013 11:13 AM (m2CN7)
A couple in Arkansas won a $1,000,000 and a $50,000 jackpot from the same set of scratch off purchases. Even if the taxes took half, that leaves them with 525K.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 11:13 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:13 AM (fWAjv)
It's pinning its hopes on The Croods.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 06, 2013 11:14 AM (Ec6wH)
same set of scratch off purchases. Even if the taxes took half, that
leaves them with 525K.
They'll be swimming in pork rinds.
Posted by: eleven at February 06, 2013 11:14 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:15 AM (LRFds)
I've heard a lot of Conservatives saying some variation of "Well, I could be okay with Amnesty if there weren't also a path to citizenship." If I did have a blog, I might address that idea.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:16 AM (8y9MW)
Yes OSP sensei. Too many ideas. Focusing on finishing the convention story. Then back to the noir kinda one.
Alexthechick, got the free software Amazon Studios recommended for screenplay writing, it also does comics and novels. And truthfully figuring out all the formatting bells and whistles to make writing easier has done more to destroy my flow of thought than AoS or television has ever done. So I keep it simple and merely write.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:16 AM (x7WAu)
Those people who died as a result of this idiotic policy are sacrifices to Mother Gaia, I suppose. And those poor people who can't pay their heating bills or can't afford to buy food without food stamps because cheap energy production is being stymied and blocked at every turn? Same thing. Even now, the UN is actively discouraging dam construction in African countries desperately in need of infrastructure becauseruling elites find the whole idea of dams hateful and repugnant.
They hate us, all of us. And since they hate humanity, they hate themselves. Thus, natural appreciation of the beauty and bounty of nature we all feel has been perverted intoan all-pervasiveself-loathing. To mitigate this self-loathing, sacrifices must be made. It's all very pagan, really, and ultimately genocidal.
Posted by: troyriser at February 06, 2013 11:18 AM (vtiE6)
And in NO other news will it talk about how many Poor people are wasting money on the lottery... one where if you had the same odds in Vegas, you would be in Jail....
Nor the fact that the same Government who prohibits a normal citizen from Having a Poker game in many places, lets Indians have Casinos (Race based double standard in the Law), but also runs gambling itself in the Lottery.
I call the Lottery a 'Tax on the Stupid'.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 06, 2013 11:18 AM (lZBBB)
I'm guessing that this value is the basis of the government's claim that there is no inflation.
Posted by: t-bird at February 06, 2013 11:19 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Ian S. at February 06, 2013 11:19 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:19 AM (x7WAu)
Aaron Burr?
Babe Ruth?
Bob Marley? Oh wait he wasn't white
Tom Brokaw? Oh wait he's not dead
Surely google wouldn't dream of putting Reagan up there!
Posted by: Weew at February 06, 2013 11:20 AM (ZsBwc)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:21 AM (8y9MW)
How many millions did we spend teaching Africans to wash their sacks? We need to expand that program, it seems.
Posted by: t-bird at February 06, 2013 11:22 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:23 AM (x7WAu)
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 06, 2013 11:23 AM (xGlYu)
there another GI Joe movie coming out that I haven't heard about?
Yes. The one with The Rock and Bruce Willis.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:23 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:23 AM (8y9MW)
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But in TFGs America...
Nathan Haddad, a decorated combat veteran, was arrested earlier this month in New York for possessing unloaded 30-round magazines. Mr. Haddad, who has been recognized by the Army for his selfless acts of generosity to fellow soldiers, was charged with five felony counts of possession of “high-capacity” magazines.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:23 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:24 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:23 AM (x7WAu)
I always thought he would make a good Baroness.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:25 AM (fWAjv)
*I know the sick dirty F*ks don't wash them, and just go around spreading disease but they won't admit that.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at February 06, 2013 11:26 AM (0q2P7)
Yeah it scares me I have several Hi Cap mags, the Army's ambivalence WRT this enrages me.
The Hi Command being so eager to suck TFG off pisses me off.
All the sniping and bullshit leaking during Bush and during this shit?
*crickets*
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:27 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:24 AM (8y9MW)
It was supposed to come out last summer and then they decided to make it 3D so there was a bunch of reshooting that was done. That's the story anyway I presume it sucks donkey balls so they are dumping it into the March nothing's at the movies hole to try to get as much money as they can.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 11:27 AM (VtjlW)
I thought that had already come out.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:24 AM (8y9MW)
It was delayed. Supposed to come out last June.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:27 AM (fWAjv)
http://youtu.be/FTjdJh80No8
And on laser disc to boot!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:27 AM (x7WAu)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:27 AM (GQ8sn)
dumping it into the March nothing's at the movies hole to try to get as
much money as they can.
Hmmm... I kinda like The Rock's movies (don't judge me), and Bruce Willis just shot up my "to be supported" list with his refusal to back gun bans. I may have to spend some coin on that.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:28 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:29 AM (x7WAu)
NONONONO!!!! Don't ruin one my childhood fantasies about The Baroness!
She was my first exposure to "foreign" girls with that eurotrash accent of hers. That, and the way her uniform was drawn to look extremely form fitting over those double D fun bags that were in all likelihood very unclean.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:31 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:32 AM (LRFds)
I'd like to know how the cops knew he had them.
Inanimate piece of metal.
RUN!
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:32 AM (fWAjv)
Yeah it's kinda where my Estrich fetish in my misspent youth came from....
"I will save her and convert her to light!"
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:33 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 06, 2013 11:33 AM (9eDbm)
Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 06, 2013 11:33 AM (ICS/J)
Look at some of the worst of them, if they don't wash the feet they put in their filthy sandals, wash their hair, or use deodorant, there is zero chance of them washing grocery bags.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 11:34 AM (kXoT0)
Why would I judge you? I actually watched and enjoyed Journey 2 last night. I love Mr. The Rock Sir.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 11:34 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:29 AM (x7WAu)
You're welcome.
http://tinyurl.com/aprfmhn
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:35 AM (fWAjv)
"Do you need bags today, sir?"
How they fuck else am I going to get all this shit into my house, young lady?
"I have to charge you five cents per bag, then."
Here's five dollars. GIVE ME ONE HUNDRED BAGS. Quintuple bag my shit, and make it snappy.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 06, 2013 11:35 AM (BushJ)
the cops used the same justification they use for "spot checks" which SCotUS has upheld...
the 4th has been so chipped away and the concept of LE restraint being an ideal to uphold so deteriorated we're in a soft police state anyway....
Barky's just honest about giving in to partisan fantasies about the 'correct police state"...
Part of why I suspect Luap Nor is a $oro$ plot to split the right and alienate Libertarians from SoCons so hard.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:35 AM (LRFds)
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I was just thinking the other day that we need an Ewok signal signal that we can light up when it's time for someone to light up the Ewok signal...
Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at February 06, 2013 11:36 AM (IrbU4)
It's not like they need their money for food or medicine or heat or phones or anything; that's all covered.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 06, 2013 11:36 AM (ZKzrr)
Happiest Day Of The Year aka February 15th aka half price chocolate day."
But...but...that's the first Friday of Lent...*sob*
Posted by: delayna at February 06, 2013 11:37 AM (KnC4k)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:37 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:37 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 06, 2013 11:38 AM (ICS/J)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 06, 2013 11:39 AM (hpDVh)
I hate that photo. In it, she is copying Beyonce's signature move of looking down shyly prior to tossing her hair, raising her face, and trying to look fierce while lipsyncing the hell out of one of her overproduced songs. Do not get me wrong, I also loathe B.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 11:39 AM (kXoT0)
I thought that had already come out.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:24 AM (8y9MW)
It was delayed. Supposed to come out last June.
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Wondered what was taking so long... The Rock was in town filming that one around 2 years ago.
Main reason I knew that was that one of the women who used to sit across from me went to the YMCA across the street from the office, where he was working out, to stalk him for a picture
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:41 AM (e0xKF)
Or at the casinos or riverboats... I buy lottery tickets, mainly for fun, but, then again, I can afford them.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at February 06, 2013 11:41 AM (kXoT0)
data to "estimate" (or perhaps "fabricate" is a better word) 'x' number
of deaths attributable to the cloth bags.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2013 09:56 AM (qqZuQ)
That study is probably every bit as good, if not better, than the studies originally used to enact the plastic bag bans.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 06, 2013 11:41 AM (673KB)
Benonce uses that routine to fool foreign personnel as to her intent....
Chay-Zee too.....
I'm just glad we have such selfless agents as the Vegas contingent on the case of Benghazi
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:41 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Palomino Pelosi at February 06, 2013 11:41 AM (e0xKF)
Main reason I knew that was that one of the women who used to sit across from me went to the YMCA across the street from the office, where he was working out, to stalk him for a picture
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:41 AM (e0xKF)
Was that the big-ass rock that someone hauled to LA to call 'art'? I keed.
Posted by: model_1066 at February 06, 2013 11:43 AM (7xPCu)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 06, 2013 11:36 AM (ZKzrr)
I was going to say quality snark but then I realized you were just pointing out the facts and now I'm going to go put my face into that there bag of cookies.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 11:43 AM (VtjlW)
the cops used the same justification they use for "spot checks" which SCotUS has upheld...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:35 AM (LRFds
Isn't that swell.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:43 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: JS at February 06, 2013 11:44 AM (4+QQ8)
I'm trying to figure out if the GOP is the Martians....the 2d expedition, or the poor sods on Earth who get nuked....?
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:44 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Cpl Agarn at February 06, 2013 11:45 AM (RG1F5)
Very much so....
remember we mustn't judge radical muslim clerics here preaching their little bundle of fun, we must not judge african-americans based on gang like appearences, but by God if you have a 30 shot mag you're a felon....never mind that 30 round mags are part of issue TA-50....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:46 AM (LRFds)
data to "estimate" (or perhaps "fabricate" is a better word) 'x' number
of deaths attributable to the cloth bags.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2013 09:56 AM (qqZuQ)
That study is probably every bit as good, if not better, than the studies originally used to enact the plastic bag bans.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 06, 2013 11:41 AM (673KB)
There's another study like this. I was arguing with a libtard on another forum and he brought up that Harvard Medical study where it said 45k people die every year because they have no health insurance.
That number seemed high to me, too high to be just ignored by the media. So I dug into the paper. Turns out, the authors are docs who support single payer, and have advocated for it through a lobby group. But putting aside the bias of the authors, I looked into the method they used. They calculated a "hazard ratio" and then took a sample size of 9000 people. They interviewed them only once and found that about 350 of them, who had no insurance coverage, died around 10 years later. They crunched some numbers and then applied this to US census data and came up with their figure of 45,000 people dying in the US.
It was a bullshit paper. They never followed up with their subjects to see if they ever got coverage during the 10 year time, if they ever received any care, or even the exact cause of death. Holes. Full of them.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:47 AM (GQ8sn)
Primo Sidebar material
Posted by: RushBabe at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: JS at February 06, 2013 11:44 AM (4+QQ
When you get right down to it, envirotards are absolutely convinced that everything humans do is evil...except for them, of course. They're all caring and stuff.
Posted by: model_1066 at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (7xPCu)
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A lot of this, as mentioned in the thread last night, is that whatever we're doing is always wrong and that the lefties insist they are the ones who will show us the light.
Granted, I think one of the other parents at my kid's school as the right idea with regards to a lot of this green stupidity. She works for Georgia Pacific's mill outside of town and has a bumper sticker reading "Don't like logging? Try wiping with a plastic bag."
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:31 AM (GQ8sn)
You'll take Lady Jaye and like it mister!!
http://tinyurl.com/av3laq6
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (x7WAu)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (GBXon)
Semi-related....this is why I buy Cascade WITH PHOSPHATES at Re-StockIt.
Screw the enviroweenies.
Washing a full dishwasher load three times because it doesn't come clean with one or two passes isn't Gaia friendly anyway.
Just curious, can the Horde name a single lefty program that has ever worked as intended.... with no negative externalities?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 06, 2013 11:50 AM (sbV1u)
Happiest Day Of The Year aka February 15th aka half price chocolate day."
But...but...that's the first Friday of Lent...*sob*
Give up Jack in the Box french fries. Shouldn't be too hard.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 11:50 AM (GFM2b)
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Anna, which border area are you talking about?
I know that the Chevron on I-59 between Slidell and Picayune does a brisk business in lotto tickets.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:51 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at February 06, 2013 11:51 AM (T4tv4)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 06, 2013 11:50 AM (sbV1u)
Well, exterminating humans and making life more difficult for those who survive IS the intention, isn't it?
Posted by: model_1066 at February 06, 2013 11:51 AM (7xPCu)
http://tinyurl.com/bkr3fn8
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of Ampersands and Breitbart Login Spaces at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (GBXon)
That looks like Marilyn Manson in drag.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 11:52 AM (GQ8sn)
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A lot of this, as mentioned in the thread last night, is that whatever we're doing is always wrong and that the lefties insist they are the ones who will show us the light.
Granted, I think one of the other parents at my kid's school as the right idea with regards to a lot of this green stupidity. She works for Georgia Pacific's mill outside of town and has a bumper sticker reading "Don't like logging? Try wiping with a plastic bag."
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (e0xKF)
I love asking enviroweenies if they know what the process is to make the cloth that the bags are mae from. Here's a hint, unless you grew the hemp yourself and then spun the cloth and used a loom, it's not all the environmentally friendly.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 11:52 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 11:50 AM (GFM2b
I'm thinking of giving up Chick-Fil-A hamburgers this time.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:53 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at February 06, 2013 11:36 AM (IrbU4)
Isn't that what pudding and critter snares are for?
Posted by: The Political Hat at February 06, 2013 11:54 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: eleven at February 06, 2013 11:55 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 11:50 AM (GFM2b
I'm thinking of giving up Chick-Fil-A hamburgers this time.
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I should probably give up Krystal and White Castle hamburgers.
My lower intestines will thank me.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:55 AM (e0xKF)
Environmentally friendly?? That's not the goal. That's the stated goal, but that's not the actual goal.
The goal is to make them feel superior to the "other"
In this case "the other" is defined as "those who dwell in reality."
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 06, 2013 11:55 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:55 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 06, 2013 11:56 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 11:50 AM (GFM2b
I'm thinking of giving up Chick-Fil-A hamburgers this time.
Posted by: RWC at February 06, 2013 11:53 AM (fWAjv)
I know someone who is an atheist, though not the militant in your face type, who responds to questions as to what she is giving up for Lent with "religion". I will admit, I think that's quite funny.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 06, 2013 11:56 AM (VtjlW)
Probably their jihad against PCBs.
I've worked Hazmat and society adjusted fine to shifting to newer coolants and had largely moved on in most non governmental applications by then anyway....
The contratemp is Benzene the hysteria about benzene will cost billions in efficiency for a very minimal gain.....we're talking 10s of millions of impact per life saved.
Benzene is part of why I am now adamant that the Hazmat industry is almost as guilty of shakedown tactics as Je$$e Jack$on and Ralph Nader...
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:56 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 06, 2013 11:56 AM (K+mtQ)
But...but...that's the first Friday of Lent...*sob*
Give up Jack in the Box french fries. Shouldn't be too hard.
Or be like me. Figure any country that has TFG and Worf infesting it is God-forsaken anyway, so Lent doesn't mean jack.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 06, 2013 11:56 AM (zF6Iw)
Because plastic bags actually worked out well for both stores and consumers and definitely didn't end capitalism, so they're trying again.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 06, 2013 11:56 AM (B/VB5)
car, personal real estate, entertainment, lavish trips and vacations
with Evelyn Adorno and support of Evelyn Adorno, gifts and other
personal uses,” the suit alleges.
“It is my information that she and Imam Feisal have a long-standing personal relationship,”
Posted by: Thunderb at February 06, 2013 10:30 AM (Dnbau)
Ain't it great? Every dollar he spent chasing pussy was NOT spent promoting islam. I call that a win.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 06, 2013 11:56 AM (673KB)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2013 11:57 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:56 AM (LRFds)
I like my benzene ice cold, with a twist of lime.
Posted by: model_1066 at February 06, 2013 11:57 AM (7xPCu)
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It'll be win-win if he ends up getting thrown in jail, or at least a high colonic from the IRS, over misuse of the funds.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:58 AM (e0xKF)
You have hit upon a new industry: non-sacrificial Lenten sacrifices.
Well played, sir. Well played.
Posted by: delayna at February 06, 2013 11:58 AM (KnC4k)
http://youtu.be/FTjdJh80No8
And on laser disc to boot!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 06, 2013 11:27 AM (x7WAu)
Woodstock Slappy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42JPg3y85Ak
Posted by: The Political Hat at February 06, 2013 11:59 AM (Vk2pI)
Oh, laugh now guys! Laugh now!
We'll see who laughs last!
Posted by: Saint Peter at February 06, 2013 12:00 PM (sbV1u)
This is inevitably followed by buying more. Not just "give me 5 of those". Oh, no. It's "Uhhh... one of those... durrr... one of those... how much is that one..."
Not to mention that the lottery has one of the worst payoffs of any other form of gambling. A 50% payout (25% if you take the cash payout)? Horrible. Roulette has a much better payout, and roulette is a sucker's game.
Someone who buys a ticket once a week for fun? No problem. But that's not who is holding up the line every damned time.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 06, 2013 12:00 PM (SY2Kh)
I hear ya...lotto is not only a tax on the stupid, but sand in the gears of the productive. For the most part.
Posted by: model_1066 at February 06, 2013 12:02 PM (7xPCu)
Those types are always the ones who, by the looks of it, don't need to be wasting money on a lottery.
Brain cells either.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 06, 2013 12:03 PM (sbV1u)
if it would save even one life, then I guess they'll have to go back to plastic.
Posted by: exceller at February 06, 2013 12:03 PM (ROGMG)
Posted by: gm at February 06, 2013 12:06 PM (/kBoL)
I really like the aloe-vera "personal cloths." Yeah, yeah, they're baby wipes, but as an alternative to the 0.5-mil sandpaper in the ladies room at work? They're fucking awesome.
But I flush them. Then I throw the plastic packet in the garbage.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 06, 2013 12:09 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: gm at February 06, 2013 12:06 PM (/kBoL)
In those places, no amount of death and destruction is legally actionable, because they're trying to save the world! Which is a modest, attainable goal...reality-based you might say.
Posted by: model_1066 at February 06, 2013 12:09 PM (7xPCu)
"A lottery is the best form of tax, for only those who wish to be taxed, are taxed."
Memory is pretty hazy about that whole time period, but I have always attributed it to that Jefferson fellow from Virginia.
Posted by: akula51 at February 06, 2013 12:13 PM (YesJa)
Heather! tsk tsk...
You're supposed to wash them and re-use them like a good steward of the earth should.
Posted by: EC at February 06, 2013 12:14 PM (GQ8sn)
kid's school as the right idea with regards to a lot of this green
stupidity. She works for Georgia Pacific's mill outside of town and has
a bumper sticker reading "Don't like logging? Try wiping with a
plastic bag."
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 06, 2013 11:48 AM (e0xKF)
Got no paper, got no towel? Wipe your ass with a spotted owl!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 06, 2013 12:18 PM (673KB)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 11:35 AM (LRFds)
So your theory is George Soros bankrolled Ron Paul as part of some conspiracy to split the GOP? Seriously? Is there nothing Soros can't do?You sound like the Left when they talk about the Koch Brothers. Get a grip.
You can 'suspect' all day but there's no evidence to back up your claims, and your logic is too convoluted to follow. That feeling of self-satisfaction you get from foisting off the fringe nature of the Ron Paul 'movement' onto Soros isn't evidence. Many Ron Paul true-believers who call themselves 'libertarians' are just conspiracy theorists looking for a label. The only reason many libertarians--including Ron Paul--identified with the Republican Party is so that their ideas would gain some measure ofmainstream respectability. Ron Paul and his many of his followers are, and always have been, Republicans of convenience. They're just old-school Jew-hating America Firster Know-Nothings, and they've been polluting the body politic since the founding of the country.
Posted by: troyriser at February 06, 2013 12:20 PM (vtiE6)
Posted by: madamex at February 06, 2013 12:22 PM (1zsKV)
Speaking as a one-time strict vegetarian,* I just want to say...
This is why I loves the horde!
(*No. It was I guess you'd say religious, not econutty. A rather strict interpretation of Gen. 1:28-30, sort-of, mixed with some Buddhistic notions, among other things. "Vegetarian by choice, not by fashion/ It's not so much what you eat/ as what you balance on." -Donovan, the still mostly enjoyable Open Road album)
Posted by: Mindful STILL banned on the desktop at February 06, 2013 12:22 PM (Bfbpz)
Posted by: Bufalobob at February 06, 2013 12:36 PM (x+7qA)
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Ah. So you were a bivegetarian, then.
Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at February 06, 2013 12:44 PM (NmR1a)
Posted by: LGoPs at February 06, 2013 12:44 PM (4x8W0)
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Take down the one man truth machine that is Glenn Beck.
No, seriosly. Beck had a segment on his TV show once in which he claimed that a Soros minion tried to intimidate him into backing off.
Posted by: Citizen Anachronda has a tinfoil hat and isn't afraid to use it at February 06, 2013 12:46 PM (NmR1a)
Says the guy on the SPLC's jock...
look Troy $oro$ openly threw in ~6 million and has invoked this as the "cause of my life" he is a guy who when coupled with his jackie chan players can swing ~16 billion.
Some set of asshats or a asshat back Luap Nor and Luap Nor is never subjected the media anal probe like our candidates are....
this is the third time he's played these games...
3 is enemy action old boy.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 01:05 PM (LRFds)
In other words, they don't have enough water to run the sewer system and sewage treatment plants right, so they're using bleach. $14M of bleach. Every year. Because the other system might use too much water.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 06, 2013 01:07 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 06, 2013 01:08 PM (kaalw)
$oro$ toppled the UK's govt. That's a fact. He's a scumball of the highest order and it sickens me that he is a genius and that my mind on currency operations and investment growing up was in alignment with his theories on dynamic disequilibrium.
$oro$ gave a million straight out to Barry's superpac despite all his braying about the evils of Super Pacs and he has been gunslinging against the US economy since 1998.
A powerful US is one of the last blocs to this fuck's dreams of a world currency.
So yeah Troy is right I am a tad paranoid about the bastard...
I imagine a moonbat version of me with about 20 billion to play with.....
the rest is a matter of watching what is easy to see, hard to see and going from there....
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 01:11 PM (LRFds)
So, yes, the plastic bag ban could have prevented that - assuming the people weren't voluntarily using reusable bags to begin with. But the real culprit is the users' lack of basic sanitary habits.
As a conservative, I think that I and others should bear at least some responsibility for the consequences of our actions. If I get sick after carrying vegetables in a bag that had had meat juice leaked all over it days earlier, then *it's my own damn fault*.
Posted by: Jon Corzine at February 06, 2013 01:11 PM (VrNoa)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 01:12 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Citizen Anachronda has a tinfoil hat and isn't afraid to use it at February 06, 2013 12:46 PM (NmR1a)
I've often wondered about minions. I mean, how does a billionaire evil villain go about finding and hiring them? Is there a 'Minions and Henchmen' category on Craigslist, or what? And what poor saps are drawn to that occupation, anyway? Don't they know their life expectancy is reduced to zero the moment the hero scales the wall, crosses the moat, or parchutes directlyinto the evil lair? It better have good health benefits, that's all I've got to say.
Posted by: troyriser at February 06, 2013 01:15 PM (vtiE6)
Troy if the right billionaire whom I believed in came along and said, "Sven I need you to do some very hard things but here is why I am doing what i'm doing and this is the goal."
Do you think I'd hesitate if his goal matrix lined up with me?
George Hearst had hatchet men, JP Morgan had hatchet men, you get enough wealth and show ideological good faith and consistent results you attract loyal retainers.
Like i said SPLC is word of God but I am crazy for not seeing $oro$ as nay different than any other robber baron?
"okay"
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 01:23 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 01:05 PM (LRFds)
Every time an anonymous someone tries to discredit me, they look at my (very public and open) professional portfolio and see that I've done graphics work for the SPLC. The project I did for them was an animated .gif decrying bigotry. I was paid very nicely for it, thanks, would do that kind of work again and make no apologies for it. As it is, I happen to like the work the SPLC did against, among others, terrorist, bankrobber, and murderer David Matthews and the neo-nazi Bruder Schweigen gang during the 80's. They've gone downhill since but that doesn't detract from their accomplishments when they were actually accomplishing something. I hate neo-nazis. Sue me.
So yeah, Sven, if you keep pushing that evil Soros plot stuff you're going to come off like some tinfoil hat-wearing idiot who believes in all of that happy Ron Paul conspiracy shit.But then, if memory serves, you're also the guy who claimed that Putin's Russia sounded like a pretty nice place to immigrate.My advice? Read the fine print in the brochure before you make a move.
Posted by: troyriser at February 06, 2013 01:29 PM (vtiE6)
I have never clicked your name I use your intonation of SPLC's wishcasting for villain of the week.
You invoke their boogey man of the week a lot of the time.
It's all good, Soros trying to tilt elections is hardly a secret and his having the wherewithal to run both candidates is easy enough to see if it is there.
The SPLC is akin to Charles Johnson saying the TN flag is a neo nazi organization...funny on one level frightening on another.
Soros' "former" Oil hobby at Petrobas gets a 4 billion dollar loan..."no biggie" he;s good enough, and I am limited enough to not know his business with precision...you ever win the lottery gift me 100,000 and I'll get you a data sheet.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 01:42 PM (LRFds)
and considering the President was discussing unilateral disarmament of our nuclear arsenal and "flexibility" WRT Putin's Russia I have to admit being very confused....
You don't think Obama would be deferring to a bad actor do you?
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 01:44 PM (LRFds)
Your company is something I enjoy lest I wouldn't seek you out in threads on happier moments in our walk along this mortal coil.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2013 02:05 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: harleycowboy at February 06, 2013 02:34 PM (wSTfB)
Killin' people doesn't get their attention, but just let one obscure fish or rodent catch a cold and they'll be all over it like stink on sh*t!!
Posted by: Jeff S at February 06, 2013 02:52 PM (hleDf)
Posted by: Speller at February 06, 2013 04:17 PM (J74Py)
While you wasteful people are moaning about the inconvenience and danger of using reusable shopping bags, there is a plastic island with billions of those plastic bags floating somewhere in the Pacific, the size of TEXAS!
Really, the person who "calculated" 5 people dying in San Francisco, has probably never lived there. "Two hours in a hot car" never happens in the Bay Area. As Mark Twain once said, "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."
Now. Hitch up your big-girl panties, buy some canvas bags, wash them, and SAVE what is left of Mother Earth.
Posted by: oxpictus at February 06, 2013 05:09 PM (+Cd7P)
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