Kasich Caves on ObamaCare; Will Implement Medicaid-Expansion for Federal (and... Ohio) $$$

Elections and consequences.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who campaigned as a limited government Republican, on Monday announced that he would implement one of the costliest provisions of President Obama’s health care law by expanding the state’s Medicaid program. His decision, a huge victory for the White House that will provide cover for more Republican governors to do the same, serves as a great case study on how difficult it is to impede the growth of government.

Posted by: Ace at 07:12 PM



Comments

1 Time to recognize no government stooge is your friend. None...

Posted by: M. Murcek at February 05, 2013 07:14 PM (GJUgF)

2 Why?

Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 05, 2013 07:15 PM (I2LwF)

3 Wake me up when Republicans find a hill to die on.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 05, 2013 07:15 PM (8ZskC)

4 ^lol

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:15 PM (60GaT)

5 stooge comment

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:15 PM (60GaT)

6
oh well

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:15 PM (8dspl)

7
The emboning continues.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:16 PM (pcgW1)

8 When is that near-miss meteor due?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2013 07:16 PM (UOM48)

9 Credibility...who needs it?

Posted by: rukiddingme? at February 05, 2013 07:16 PM (MbeEN)

10 Why would any governor comply with any federal regulation he doesn't like? There is no "rule of law-rule of law" anymore. Not for Our Betters.

My only conclusion is that he likes the law.

Like I've been concluding about federal republicans- the conservative part of their messaging is just a fundraising con now.

Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 05, 2013 07:16 PM (I2LwF)

11 Enboning?

Emboning?

I guess I should look it up.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:17 PM (pcgW1)

12 Bow to your boy god, Kasich.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2013 07:17 PM (UOM48)

13 The era of pretending that the era of big government is over is over.Or something.

Posted by: steevy at February 05, 2013 07:17 PM (9XBK2)

14

Was his family's lives threatened?

Posted by: beach at February 05, 2013 07:17 PM (LpQbZ)

15 Thank God I live in Texas. The longer the Obama presidency goes on the closer the state government comes to just expelling federal workers from the state as a whole.

Posted by: Austin in TX at February 05, 2013 07:17 PM (Sd6pb)

16 The GOP is done...

Posted by: liquidflorian at February 05, 2013 07:18 PM (Kx/oz)

17
At this point, I can't honestly say that there's any stopping the Federal leviathan. Not via the Constitutional process.
Only a natural economic and monetary system reset can bring us back to square one.
Too bad. We really had a good thing here. I'm not sure of how severe the bad things in store are.
But it's timeto plan accordingly.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at February 05, 2013 07:18 PM (wuRmJ)

18 REMEMBER THIS next year.
When he is crying for money and help, send those dollars to Governors Snyder and Walker.
They're the only ones left from '10 with a backbone on the Great Lakes.

Posted by: CAC at February 05, 2013 07:18 PM (twQE8)

19 Brewer in Arizona is also going along with expanding Medicaid.

Does it make sense fiscally? I don't know anything about it.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:18 PM (pcgW1)

20
Hmmm, I wonder if somebody from the WH gave him some pics of his kids.

Or his dog mysteriously died. Something about this stinks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:18 PM (+z4pE)

21 Maybe someone's getting Conservative Victory Project money too if he decides to go to Washington.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 05, 2013 07:18 PM (ORGYc)

22
It's worthwhile to sacrifice your principles so you can stay in office and not do what you believe in.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 05, 2013 07:19 PM (mJkp9)

23 We've already said everything important. All that's left is for atc to make a bukakke comment.

Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 05, 2013 07:19 PM (I2LwF)

24 19
Brewer in Arizona is also going along with expanding Medicaid.

Does it make sense fiscally? I don't know anything about it.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:18 PM (pcgW1)


So is Susana Martinez, New Mexico. Shame....I liked her.

Posted by: Tami at February 05, 2013 07:20 PM (X6akg)

25 Embonening.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 05, 2013 07:20 PM (KAWvv)

26 Now THIS is what I'm talking to you idiot teabaggers about!

Kasich got himself right and I would be happy to throw money at him

Posted by: Karl Rove at February 05, 2013 07:20 PM (wwsoB)

27

best 2 lines ever:

A regular speaker at Tea Party rallies, Kasich boasted, “I think I was in the Tea Party before there was a Tea Party.” Days before his election in 2010, he argued, “Obamacare must be blocked.”

Posted by: surreality beach at February 05, 2013 07:20 PM (LpQbZ)

28 That thing I did in your mouth?

Chalk it up to my limited governance.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 05, 2013 07:20 PM (ccXZP)

29
The era of pretending that the era of big government is over is over.Or something.

Thread Winner, Early Division.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:20 PM (+z4pE)

30 This girl has no family, nobody knows that she worked
here. It'll be as though she never existed. All that's left is our
friendship.

Posted by: Tom Hagen at February 05, 2013 07:20 PM (8ZskC)

31 Rove, you magnificent bastard.

Posted by: Barry O. at February 05, 2013 07:20 PM (hi03F)

32 8 When is that near-miss meteor due?

The 15th...it will be threading the needle between our orbital satelites.

Maybe it will hit a CNN satelite.

Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 07:21 PM (BZMZX)

33 And why exactly did Kasich go all French on us?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 05, 2013 07:21 PM (VQnP8)

34 #25

Oh, so you keep the "e". As in boner. Thanks.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:21 PM (pcgW1)

35 I just figured out what the GOP is good for:

Great case studies, bitchez!

Finally!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 05, 2013 07:21 PM (zpqa2)

36
And since everything has already been said...

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:21 PM (vyPsz)

37 10 Why would any governor comply with any federal regulation he doesn't like? There is no "rule of law-rule of law" anymore. Not for Our Betters.

My only conclusion is that he likes the law.

Like I've been concluding about federal republicans- the conservative part of their messaging is just a fundraising con now.



Someone wants to get reelected. Obama won OH. It's really all that simple. Sigh!

Posted by: runningrn at February 05, 2013 07:21 PM (Ag5D2)

38 @ 3 Wake me up when Republicans find a hill to die on.

A beautiful summary in one short, pithy sentence.

Well played, sir.

Posted by: DocJ at February 05, 2013 07:21 PM (V20sy)

39 We're gonna need a bigger chicken.

Posted by: The GOP at February 05, 2013 07:21 PM (8ZskC)

40 In Obama's America, Government grows you!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:22 PM (tbBtG)

41 It's a sad, sad day when I'm in more agreement with the old, stumpy guy handing out Leninist-Marxist fliers in the student center than with the president.

Drone strikes against americans--bad

multiple interventions in Africa--bad

widespread corporate cronyism--bad

All things this admin loves...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at February 05, 2013 07:22 PM (Ie8qF)

42 OK dim the lights is ok, but what this situation calls for is turning OUT the Lights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGxusvUT3k

As only Dandy Don could!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 07:22 PM (9Bj8R)

43 So this is how it ends, a race to get some before the collapse.

Posted by: Fritz at February 05, 2013 07:23 PM (WM+rJ)

44 One reason that Republicans stab us in the back consistently is that we fall for the "better half a republican than a democrat"

The GOP hacks have to be put on notice that once the bridges are burned, they won't be welcomed back

Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2013 07:23 PM (wwsoB)

45
I just don't get it.

I really don't.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:23 PM (+z4pE)

46 Our GA governor, Nathan Deal is still holding strong. For now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2013 07:24 PM (UOM48)

47 So... What's to be done?


I think there are two mutually-exclusive ways for us to still make a dent in the discourse and governance.

First way: get you and your friends together on a mailing list, and hit the fuckers with post cards all saying the same thing on the same issue on the same day.

Lather rinse repeat every week.

Second way is, quit your job and campaign for the one candidate you like and trust 24/7.


These only really work for local or state-level races. Even congressweasels now have too many constituent s for us to make them care.

Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 05, 2013 07:24 PM (I2LwF)

48 I just don't get it.

I really don't.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:23 PM (+z4pE)

Just bend over a little more and you will!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 07:24 PM (9Bj8R)

49 Welcome to the neighborhood Mr. Kasich! Did I hear correctly that you'll be hosting some rocking parties with really young Dominicans?

Posted by: Lake Cuomo Residents at February 05, 2013 07:24 PM (+BmfA)

50 I just don't get it.

I really don't.


It's simple.

People suck.

Posted by: Sean Bannion, Misanthrope Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 07:25 PM (zEERb)

51
I shall now re-recommend a movie:

BLACKTHORN (2011)

It's about the later life of the Sundance Kid after he supposedly escaped to Bolivia.

It's a western sorta, and a drama.

Pretty good flick if you've got nothing else better.

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:25 PM (yhYn1)

52

That linked piece to the Examiner is so depressing.

I need chocolate.

Posted by: surreality beach at February 05, 2013 07:25 PM (LpQbZ)

53 I think that's what Ace is trying to tell us with the Donna Summer's selection--

the Embonening--it's here.

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 07:25 PM (r2PLg)

54 Could one of the GOP apologists please explain to me now why we have to keep supporting them because they're the only thing between us and a leviathan government ?

Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM (wwsoB)

55 Kasich has his, and thinks he will not be affected by the coming fiscal disaster.Maybe he thinks he will be rich enough or dead enough to avoid the storm. Obviously he does not care about his kids or grandkids.

Posted by: rd at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM (zLp5I)

56 3 Wake me up when Republicans find a hill to die on.
---
We'd rather a nice meadow to just lie down in and expire. Climbing that hill sounds like such menial labor. there might even be perspiration...

Maybe if there were some underage hookers up there...

Posted by: Your republican leaders at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM (sYTYw)

57 So does anyone know the numbers on this? Does it save any money, or is it growing entitlements? It sounds to me like growing entitlements and more taxpayer money going to the states.

It's hard to believe that conservative governors would go for this if it meant growing entitlements.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM (pcgW1)

58 #39 Keep on fuckin' that emu.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM (ORGYc)

59 Embone, emboned, emboner, emboning, embonening.


And yes, AtC needs to swing by and say bukkake, I like it when she does that.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM (KAWvv)

60

oh, and Your Mouths are

Poised for Delivery

-- Kasich, John

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM (FC8Yl)

61 Pee Wee Hemans spewing hog

That was beautiful.

Posted by: Ronster at February 05, 2013 07:27 PM (JgkPs)

62 Does Kasich not realize this will demoralize his base and guarantee his defeat?

Democrat Lite never results in GOP electoral victories.

Posted by: Jose/ningrim at February 05, 2013 07:27 PM (srIqv)

63 Bend over Mr Kasich; Dr. Obama is about to shove his fist up to your armpit.

Now you'll know the power of this fully operational government program! Buwahahahaha!

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 05, 2013 07:27 PM (ll0H/)

64 Let it burn.

Posted by: rickl at February 05, 2013 07:27 PM (sdi6R)

65

and I'm currently poised for supper

Assault Raviolis, in case you were wonderin.

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:28 PM (052zE)

66 Was driving all afternoon so I listened to Rush. His last called had so real insights to the impending implosion. Add TFG's new Kill Memo and things are gonna get ugly fast if this mess isn't overturned.

Posted by: sTevo's obsolete crackberry at February 05, 2013 07:28 PM (OcVOw)

67 As for Marco Rubio, keep selling us out to Karl Rove and the others who never wanted you there in the first place. Ted Cruz is the new Latino conservative sheriff in town

But enjoy your perks, fundraisers, and TV appearances

Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2013 07:28 PM (wwsoB)

68 Wait. So Jan Brewer bought-in as well?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:28 PM (piMMO)

69 "54 Could one of the GOP apologists please explain to me now why we have to keep supporting them because they're the only thing between us and a leviathan government ?

Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM (wwsoB) "

Well, here's the thing: Do you have the balls to come out against Medicaid, which is literally (discriminatory!) full Socialism?


The GOP doesn't just suck cock because they want to. They also suck cock because the electorate wants them to.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:28 PM (tbBtG)

70 @ kbdabear - My guess is one word: electability.

My point in reply - and what's the point if we're going to get the same crappy scandi-state, only a little slower and maybe a bit cheaper?

No, I'm not interested in making fascism more comfortable. Not one bit.

Posted by: DocJ at February 05, 2013 07:28 PM (V20sy)

71

tomorrow when I get gas, I hope it's poised to be cheaper

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:28 PM (vzLhi)

72 I never thought I'd say this, but I think we need a Hitler/Downfall parody where Hitler is playing the part of one of US.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at February 05, 2013 07:29 PM (zpqa2)

73
Kasich’s not alone. He’s joining four other Republican governors in accepting the expansion, though they’re still outnumbered by the nine GOP governors who are refusing to do it .




9 to 5 people. 2/3rds-ish and holding!

Remember, although the National Republicans have have folded, we still have the state parties to build conservatism on!



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2013 07:29 PM (kdS6q)

74
Second way is, quit your job and campaign for the one candidate you like and trust 24/7.

Yeah, but who? Kasich looked (or rather sounded, to me) like a trustworthy conservative. Of course, I don't live in Oiho, so I'm not in on what goes on up there.

Still, WTF?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:29 PM (+z4pE)

75

Barack H. Obama

Poised to be a great president.


Any day now...

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:29 PM (NLH1M)

76 Heh don't cry for me Ohio I'm not the one stuck in paradise.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:29 PM (LRFds)

77 We should boil down Chris Christie and use him for lube.

Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 05, 2013 07:29 PM (I2LwF)

78 Dude was like my hero in the late 90s, as far as a politician can be, anyway.

"Acculturated into Big Government."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 05, 2013 07:29 PM (bxiXv)

79 55
Kasich has his, and thinks he will not be affected by the coming fiscal
disaster.Maybe he thinks he will be rich enough or dead enough to avoid
the storm. Obviously he does not care about his kids or grandkids.

Posted by: rd at February 05, 2013 07:26 PM

Maybe he misses his Saturday Fox News show

Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2013 07:30 PM (wwsoB)

80 FFS Kasich, you're secure in your fucking retirement. Just do the right damn thing!

Posted by: logprof at February 05, 2013 07:30 PM (jVAw4)

81 17 Hawkins 1701,

Article V, pass an Amendment for formal secession mechanism.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:30 PM (LRFds)

82 3 Wake me up when Republicans find a hill to die on.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 05, 2013 07:15 PM (8ZskC)




We're destined for a ditch, not a hill.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 07:30 PM (GEICT)

83 The 15th...it will be threading the needle between our orbital satelites.

Maybe it will hit a CNN satelite.

****

This is just the test drive. In 2020 it will be closer.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:30 PM (piMMO)

84 Brewer's sell out is disturbia.

Posted by: sTevo's obsolete crackberry at February 05, 2013 07:30 PM (vroT8)

85 Kasich just won re-election.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 05, 2013 07:31 PM (LSTjp)

86
tomorrow when I get gas, I hope it's poised to be cheaper

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:28 PM (vzLhi)


The only gas you will get tomorrow that will be cheaper is from the radishes and onions.

Posted by: rd at February 05, 2013 07:31 PM (zLp5I)

87
the federal government will pick up all of the costs of Ohio's newly eligible people for the first three years, and then slowly scale that back to 90 percent of the costs.




Oh, so we're paying for it. Well then, all righty.....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2013 07:31 PM (kdS6q)

88 "85 Kasich just won re-election.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 05, 2013 07:31 PM (LSTjp) "

Is that what your mom calls it?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:32 PM (tbBtG)

89 Kasich just LOST re-election.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 05, 2013 07:31 PM (LSTjp)
FIFY.

He just screwed himself, as ningrim just said.

He was already facing a tough re-elect.

Posted by: CAC at February 05, 2013 07:32 PM (twQE8)

90 @85 Kasich just won re-election.

Senator Scott Brown (R-MA) could not be reached for comment.

Posted by: DocJ at February 05, 2013 07:32 PM (V20sy)

91

both the economy and the GOP are poised for growth...

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:32 PM (KwX0v)

92 Brewer in Arizona is also going along with expanding Medicaid.Does it make sense fiscally? I don't know anything about it. Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:18 PM (pcgW1) So is Susana Martinez, New Mexico. Shame....I liked her.
So is Brian Sandoval of New Messico.

So is whoever is governor of North Dakota.

The Virginia General Assembly, after passing the Virginia Health Care Freedom Act of 2010 (which said you did NOT have to purchase ObammyCare) quietly slipped in a bill that made it past a first reading to set up stealth exchanges. Gov. Bob McDonnell is a RINO, I look for him to cave.

Posted by: RushBabe at February 05, 2013 07:32 PM (tQHzJ)

93 78 Mero,

Kasich was always part of the Cleveland gang.

He blinked, which makes sense...guy was one county over from the district that changed my professional destiny.

For a guy who was going to "break the back of organized labor's control of schools" he was pretty unaware of what was going on in his district.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:33 PM (LRFds)

94 We just had leftover seafood gumbo.

Ugh. Gumbo is one of those things that does not reheat well.

Just thought I'd throw that out there, since we're boned and SMOD is going to miss us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2013 07:33 PM (UOM48)

95 We should boil down Chris Christie and use him for lube.

Whale oil for lamps.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2013 07:33 PM (d0Dmj)

96 9 to 5 people. 2/3rds-ish and holding!


9 of 14 this time, sure. But didn't it used to be 26? And before that, it was like 250 in Congress?

And before that it was millions of us marching and shouting in the Capitol.

But yeah, 9 sounds great.

Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 05, 2013 07:33 PM (I2LwF)

97 both the economy and the GOP are poised for growth... in irrelevance

FIFY

Posted by: Sean Bannion, Misanthrope Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 07:33 PM (zEERb)

98
Boehner is giving Kasich a pass. “Gov. Kasich is no fan of Obamacare, and he’s proven it repeatedly with his actions,” said Boehner spokesman Michael Steel. “Governors are playing the hand they’ve been dealt by the Obama administration. Gov. Kasich said a strong ‘no’ to a state-run exchange and to federal takeovers of insurance regulation and Medicaid eligibility. Ohioans applauded him for these actions, and they trust that he’s doing his best to minimize the law’s harmful effects on our state as Republicans at all levels work for its repeal.”



*clap* *clap* *clap*


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2013 07:34 PM (kdS6q)

99 "Fredo, you're nothing to me now"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Weaop_aiTg

Posted by: kbdabear at February 05, 2013 07:34 PM (wwsoB)

100 "94 We just had leftover seafood gumbo.

Ugh. Gumbo is one of those things that does not reheat well.

Just thought I'd throw that out there, since we're boned and SMOD is going to miss us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2013 07:33 PM (UOM4 "

In Obama's America, you miss SMOD.


And Straight Communism.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:34 PM (tbBtG)

101 O/T, but important on the cultural front:

LandsEnd has spring girls dresses that come to the knee or below the knee. And knee length skirts

Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (SUKHu)

102


What does it matter?

It will all be forgotten tomorrow.

Posted by: surreality beach at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (LpQbZ)

103 A driver was stuck in a traffic jam on the highway outside Washington, DC. Nothing was moving. Suddenly, a man knocks on the window.

The driver rolls down the window and asks, "What's going on?"

"Terrorists have kidnapped the entire US Congress, and they're asking for a $100 million dollar ransom. Otherwise, they're going to douse them all in gasoline and set them on fire. We're going from car to car, collecting donations."

"How much is everyone giving, on an average?" the driver asks.

The man replies, "Roughly a gallon"

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (5gfow)

104 "Well, here's the thing: Do you have the balls to come out against
Medicaid, which is literally (discriminatory!) full Socialism?"

how is it socialism and/or discriminatory. separate question from whether it works well.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (60GaT)

105 68 Wait. So Jan Brewer bought-in as well?

---

Bought-on

Sold-out

same thing sometimes

Posted by: Your republican leaders at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (sYTYw)

106

"Oui, oui! These electric cigarettes aren't gonna smoke themselves."

-- Ace

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (vanqS)

107 “Governors are playing the hand they’ve been dealt by the Obama administration.

***

Yeah?

Well so are those who are standing up against it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (piMMO)

108 Walker has a statement up on Facebook from less than ten minutes ago......

The last budget I signed into law increased state taxpayer spending on Medicaid by $1.2 billion—the largest increase in Wisconsin history and one of the largest increases per capita in the country.

The additional cost to the state to continue Medicaid under current law is estimated at $664 million GPR over the biennium. Nearly 40 percent or about $258 million is due to the federal government reducing funding for Medicaid for our state, increasing costs due to changes in the Affordable Care Act, and increasing payments for Medicaid coverage.

Some suggest we should accept the federal government's offer of additional funds under provisions of the Affordable Care Act. However, given the uncertainty around the federal budget, long-term funding is highly uncertain.

Think about it. Congress can't pay for what they mandate today. What makes us think they can pay for even bigger costs in the future.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)

109 74 Backwards Boy,

it's really easy to be a conservative on TV...harder to do when union thugs are threatening to firebomb your house and you refuse to fight their bullshit ads hard.

Kasich knows the music but can't carry the tune or dance....and I don't care anymore.

Ohio you loved what Cleveland Donkey did for you?

Great....gonna change my home of record and never give you another dime in taxes.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:36 PM (LRFds)

110 Ohio's expansion of Medicaid will be amongst the most conservative of any of the Medicaid expansions.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 05, 2013 07:36 PM (+lsX1)

111 3 Wake me up when Republicans find a hill to die on.
Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 05, 2013 07:15 PM (8ZskC)


It would be nice if they would attempt to defend the hill first, rather than simply dying on it.

Posted by: rickl at February 05, 2013 07:36 PM (sdi6R)

112 I would still like to know the rationale for going with Medicaid expansion.

Maybe Santelli is right. We are already Europe.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:36 PM (pcgW1)

113 There is no GOP.

We have the fifth column taking over.

Kinda frightening if youve read anything about the history of asshole leftists destroying countries.

Five years? Not sure what the fuck will be going on. The economincs these idiots are running always end with disaster.

There is no GOP. They are gone. No one to look out for abuses by leftists.

Yep, not good at all.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzzer at February 05, 2013 07:37 PM (e3h+d)

114 The previous thread was much more fun.

Posted by: runningrn at February 05, 2013 07:37 PM (Ag5D2)

115

Don't mind me, I'm just... ...Watching. It. Burn.

Posted by: Meremortal, watching it burn at February 05, 2013 07:37 PM (1Y+hH)

116 BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)

***

Sweet

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:38 PM (piMMO)

117 Meh, I'm cutting back my hours to 1/4 this year. After deductions, I'm not paying enough in taxes to care. Republicans can keep on fightin' teh gheys and da funny weed while losing the really big battles that actually matter.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 05, 2013 07:38 PM (dZ756)

118 114 True, true.

Posted by: sTevo's obsolete crackberry at February 05, 2013 07:38 PM (jTr5F)

119 "104 "Well, here's the thing: Do you have the balls to come out against
Medicaid, which is literally (discriminatory!) full Socialism?"

how is it socialism and/or discriminatory. separate question from whether it works well.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (60GaT) "

Because it is Socialism. And only some people qualify.


(But if it isn't Socialism, why do you dislike it?)
("Because it doesn't work?")

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:38 PM (tbBtG)

120 Walker has a statement up on Facebook from less than ten minutes ago......

The last budget I signed into law increased state taxpayer spending on Medicaid by $1.2 billion—the largest increase in Wisconsin history and one of the largest increases per capita in the country.

The additional cost to the state to continue Medicaid under current law is estimated at $664 million GPR over the biennium. Nearly 40 percent or about $258 million is due to the federal government reducing funding for Medicaid for our state, increasing costs due to changes in the Affordable Care Act, and increasing payments for Medicaid coverage.

Some suggest we should accept the federal government's offer of additional funds under provisions of the Affordable Care Act. However, given the uncertainty around the federal budget, long-term funding is highly uncertain.

Think about it. Congress can't pay for what they mandate today. What makes us think they can pay for even bigger costs in the future.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)

BECAUSE WALKER HAS MASSIVE FUCKING BALLS.

Posted by: CAC at February 05, 2013 07:39 PM (twQE8)

121 98 LDC,

Michael Steele?

Michael DL Hughgley Steele?

ah no "Steel" the other oaf....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:39 PM (LRFds)

122
The situation created by the Federal Government is the trap.

Creating so many people that are eligible for Medicare/Medicaid and creating the financial situation where a great many hospitals are dependent on their survival to take Medicare dollars.

A huge fucking disappointment in Kasich. But if he refused the dollars he would be crucified in the Liberal press. This does allow his to balance the next two year budget (coming up this Spring) without raising taxes.
But the money comes from "somewhere", and that somewhere is either taxed and re-distributed (courtesy of Obama and the Executive Branch) or borrowed.

A huge fucking disappointment, with another tragic rationalization of why he "had to do it". This is why we are screwed. The game is rigged for no other outcome.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 05, 2013 07:39 PM (RFeQD)

123 Rejecting the hand they were dealt?

Say it with me:

#thatsadronestrike

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:39 PM (piMMO)

124
True Story

In sixth grade the teacher asked each of us what we would do if ruled the world. Patrick O'Halloran said he'd make all the girls wear waist-high skirts.

We were stunned into silence.

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:39 PM (Fely/)

125 Wouldn't Kasich decision take away bargaining chips from Boehner? Not that Boehner knows how to bargain, only grovel, then give concessions when at an advantage.

PA Gov. Corbett said "no thank you" to new-fangsled, state bankrupting Medicaid on steroid program.

Posted by: Deli LLama at February 05, 2013 07:39 PM (lGu1O)

126 i prefer my GOP to be strongly anti-choom thank you

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:40 PM (60GaT)

127 94...since we're boned and SMOD is going to miss us.

This one will be so close...that the massive suckage from DC just might pull it down.

I wonder if NASA figures in the suckage factor, in their calculations?
I'm thinking...no.

Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 07:40 PM (BZMZX)

128 So, is Kasich boned in '14 or is he boned?

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 05, 2013 07:40 PM (XvHmy)

129 You looked in my eyes and lied to me. You treated me like a fuckin' jerk, like I was never nothin' to you.

Now I gotta turn my back on you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JsmXrrOwus

Posted by: Paulie Cicero at February 05, 2013 07:40 PM (wwsoB)

130 I would still like to know the rationale for going with Medicaid expansion.

As far as I can tell, the feds mandate Medicaid and then use Medicare to cut the funding.

This is the problem with pork barrel spending, BTW. If you unilaterally decline it, then some other Congressman will just take it for himself.

Walker's right in the long-term, though. Obamacare's unsustainable and the bribes will go away fast.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2013 07:41 PM (T0NGe)

131 OT, but I have a question.

Didn't the Vermont Teddy Bear Company used to be a classier operation?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:41 PM (piMMO)

132 "117 Meh, I'm cutting back my hours to 1/4 this year. After deductions, I'm not paying enough in taxes to care. Republicans can keep on fightin' teh gheys and da funny weed while losing the really big battles that actually matter.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 05, 2013 07:38 PM (dZ756) "

Chewing Gum. Walking. Two things which can be done at the same time.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:41 PM (tbBtG)

133
Wait. So Jan Brewer bought-in as well?

---

Bought-on

Sold-out

same thing sometimesPosted by: Your republican leaders at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (sYTYw)




Bought IN
Sold OUT

IN-OUT IN-OUT IN-OUT IN-OUT IN-OUT IN-OUT IN-OUT
IN-OUT
Can't you feel it? WE are being fucked by these idiots.
But at least the GOP kisses it and smears some salive on it first.

Posted by: rd at February 05, 2013 07:42 PM (zLp5I)

134 On the bright side,maybe NASA fucked up the calculations and the comet will hit us.

Posted by: steevy at February 05, 2013 07:42 PM (9XBK2)

135
They are all the same party now, the government party. Gerrymandering really screwed this country but good.


OT bleg: my wife want to make her computer look like its from the UK to watch a show, any recommendations?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2013 07:42 PM (p/cQy)

136 A huge fucking disappointment in Kasich. But if he refused the dollars he would be crucified in the Liberal press.

Now that he has the support of the liberal press he will have the freedom to govern in a super conservative manner. Kasich is definitely playing 9 dimensional chess here.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 05, 2013 07:42 PM (+lsX1)

137 i always roll my eyes at this "if only the GOP abandoned [social positions i don't like], they'd win" mentality.

sure it'd gain (and lose) them some votes. somehow i think a lot of the "i'd vote Republican BUT" types would manage to find Mr. "fiscally responsible" Democrat to vote for though. "thanks for changing Republicans, BUT..."

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (60GaT)

138 "120 Walker has a statement up on Facebook from less than ten minutes ago......

The last budget I signed into law increased state taxpayer spending on Medicaid by $1.2 billion—the largest increase in Wisconsin history and one of the largest increases per capita in the country.

The additional cost to the state to continue Medicaid under current law is estimated at $664 million GPR over the biennium. Nearly 40 percent or about $258 million is due to the federal government reducing funding for Medicaid for our state, increasing costs due to changes in the Affordable Care Act, and increasing payments for Medicaid coverage.

Some suggest we should accept the federal government's offer of additional funds under provisions of the Affordable Care Act. However, given the uncertainty around the federal budget, long-term funding is highly uncertain.

Think about it. Congress can't pay for what they mandate today. What makes us think they can pay for even bigger costs in the future.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)

BECAUSE WALKER HAS MASSIVE FUCKING BALLS.

Posted by: CAC at February 05, 2013 07:39 PM (twQE "

"The last budget I signed into law increased state taxpayer spending on Medicaid by $1.2 billion—the largest increase in Wisconsin history and one of the largest increases per capita in the country."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (tbBtG)

139
131 OT, but I have a question. Didn't the Vermont Teddy Bear Company used to be a classier operation?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:41 PM (piMMO)


What are they doing to make them seem less classy now?

Posted by: buzzion at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (GULKT)

140
The big news in PA today is that Governor Corbett decided not to expand Medicaid. I'm surprised, I didn't think he had the balls to do it.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/a8eu274

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (tOkJB)

141 Now that he has the support of the liberal press he will have the freedom to govern in a super conservative manner. Kasich is definitely playing 9 dimensional chess here.

***

yeah.

I'm sure that's it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (piMMO)

142
Kasich isn't the first Republican to sign on to the Obamacare provision – he joins Jan Brewer of Arizona, Brian Sandoval of Nevada, Susana Martinez of New Mexico, and Jack Dalrymple of North Dakota in endorsing the Medicaid expansion.




OK, Mexicans, Mexicans, Mexicans and I assume Mexicans in North Dakota too?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (kdS6q)

143 So, is Kasich boned in '14 or is he boned?Posted by: The Political Hat at February 05, 2013 07:40 PM (XvHmy)__ ____ ____ ____ ___ _ _) _ _ __ _ _ _____ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Hell if I know, but the rest of us are boned now.

Posted by: Meremortal, watching it burn at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (1Y+hH)

144 5 R govs - Martinez, Brewer, Sandoval, Kasich and one other -- don't know-- support Medicaid expansion. What's the point? I'm with 3 Cicero.

Posted by: gracepmc at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (rznx3)

145 So i'm thinking we all need to head for some other land and begin again. It occurs to me the Mexico is nearby and probably is low on healthy young males who can defend it.
Sit back, watch it burn and then migrate north again. Hopefully Texas lasts as a firebreak.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 05, 2013 07:44 PM (sYTYw)

146 OT bleg: my wife want to make her computer look like its from the UK to watch a show, any recommendations?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2013 07:42 PM (p/cQy)


Just find a simple web proxy. Search in your favorite search engine for "UK web proxy" or whatnot. You should be able to just type in the target URL and then gain access to the site you want.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 05, 2013 07:44 PM (XvHmy)

147 What are they doing to make them seem less classy now?

*****

Selling huge teddy bears with the claim that it will, *wink wink*, pay off later.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:44 PM (piMMO)

148 It's a dream come true! It's a dream come true!

Posted by: Congressman Kasich at February 05, 2013 07:44 PM (nZvGM)

149

Welcome to the Jungle.

Posted by: Guns at February 05, 2013 07:45 PM (LpQbZ)

150 I, for one, welcome my new republican overlords, same as my old democrat overlords, but with more duplicity and hypocracy!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 07:45 PM (Cnqmv)

151 So i'm thinking we all need to head for some other land and begin again. It occurs to me the Mexico is nearby and probably is low on healthy young males who can defend it.
Sit back, watch it burn and then migrate north again. Hopefully Texas lasts as a firebreak.


***

No matter how bad it gets, I'm not going anywhere.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:45 PM (piMMO)

152 I have a question: Why do we have Medicaid anyway?

Isn't Obamacare supposed to create healthcare for the poor?

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2013 07:45 PM (T0NGe)

153 More evidence that Republicans are wolves in sheep's clothing.
This will not end well.

Posted by: NAME REDACTED at February 05, 2013 07:46 PM (zz9gj)

154 139 It's that new line of "Pedo Bears" I bet.

Posted by: steevy at February 05, 2013 07:46 PM (9XBK2)

155 Selling huge teddy bears with the claim that it will, *wink wink*, pay off later.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:44 PM (piMMO)

I've been married damn near 30 years. Nothing ever pays off. The best you can hope for is to get yelled at less and have a few minutes peace.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 07:46 PM (9Bj8R)

156 OT bleg: my wife want to make her computer look like its from the UK to watch a show, any recommendations?
---
Top Gear

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 05, 2013 07:46 PM (sYTYw)

157 OT bleg: my wife want to make her computer look like its from the UK to watch a show, any recommendations?


Hammer all the keys so they look like broken crooked teeth.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 05, 2013 07:46 PM (8ZskC)

158 147...Selling huge teddy bears with the claim that it will, *wink wink*, pay off later.

They've always done stuff like that, NDH.
Last year it was the 'Luuuv Bear'...or some damn thing.

Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 07:46 PM (BZMZX)

159
Governors Chris Christie of New Jersey and Bob McDonnell of Virginia, also potential presidential candidates, have yet to detail their plans on the Medicaid expansion.



Wait for it....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2013 07:46 PM (kdS6q)

160 Just find a simple web proxy. Search in your favorite search engine for "UK web proxy" or whatnot. You should be able to just type in the target URL and then gain access to the site you want.
Posted by: The Political Hat at February 05, 2013 07:44 PM (XvHmy)


Seems like most proxy servers do not allow you to view streaming video through them. At least the ones I've looked at always seem to have that blocked.

Posted by: buzzion at February 05, 2013 07:47 PM (GULKT)

161 Why do we have Medicaid anyway?

Isn't Obamacare supposed to create healthcare for the poor?
Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2013 07:45 PM (T0NGe)


What do you think Medicaid is?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 07:47 PM (9Bj8R)

162 Kasich is playing rope-a-dope. Ohio democrats will never know what hit 'em!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 05, 2013 07:47 PM (+lsX1)

163
136 A huge fucking disappointment in Kasich. But if he refused the dollars he would be crucified in the Liberal press.
Now that he has the support of the liberal press he will have the freedom to govern in a super conservative manner. Kasich is definitely playing 9 dimensional chess here.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 05, 2013 07:42 PM (+lsX1)


King me.

Posted by: His Majesty teh SCOAMF at February 05, 2013 07:47 PM (pcgW1)

164 "137 i always roll my eyes at this "if only the GOP abandoned [social positions i don't like], they'd win" mentality.

sure it'd gain (and lose) them some votes. somehow i think a lot of the "i'd vote Republican BUT" types would manage to find Mr. "fiscally responsible" Democrat to vote for though. "thanks for changing Republicans, BUT..."

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:43 PM (60GaT) "

Hipsters are never going to settle for a hipster light party. Why would they?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:47 PM (tbBtG)

165 All My (R) Bitches
McCain, Graham, Boehner,
McConnell, Boehner(again), Cantor,
Chambliss, Brewer


(whistling happily)


Kasich

Posted by: King Hussein I at February 05, 2013 07:47 PM (EZl54)

166 What are they doing to make them seem less classy now?
---
I found the underage Dominican Hooker bear to be a bit un-classy

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 05, 2013 07:48 PM (sYTYw)

167 Could one of the GOP apologists please explain to me now why we have to keep supporting them because they're the only thing between us and a leviathan government ?

Because no matter how big a leviathan the GOP has allowed the govenment to grow to, it'll never be big enough for the Dems.

We can whine about the likes of Boehner and Kasich all we like, but the source of the problem remains We The People.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 05, 2013 07:48 PM (X9Mnx)

168 /b
fix

Posted by: King Hussein I at February 05, 2013 07:48 PM (EZl54)

169 According to projections from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), entitlements and ObamaCare spending will comprise 53 percent of all federal spending over the coming decade, totaling $24.9 trillion.


But by all means lets cut defense??????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 07:48 PM (9Bj8R)

170 I can't believe Corbett did the right thing and Kasich was a pussy!

Wow.

Corbett was great today, had a very ballsy presser

Screw Ohio, no offense, that state is going all Illinoisy

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at February 05, 2013 07:48 PM (J6kXj)

171
unbroken

Posted by: King Hussein I at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (EZl54)

172 VERY COOL!!

Check out item #180

http://bit.ly/X0Hoia

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (piMMO)

173 holy fu . . . I'm bold!

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (J6kXj)

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (8ZskC)

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (r2PLg)

176 Selling huge teddy bears with the claim that it will, *wink wink*, pay off later.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:44 PM (piMMO)


Nah I think they've always had that implication of "buy it for your lady friend to get you laid." They are the same company that does the pajamagrams aren't they?

Posted by: buzzion at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (GULKT)

177
my wife want to make her computer look like its from the UK to watch a show, any recommendations?




And an extra "U" key so she can easily type worlds with fruity Brit spellings like "colour".....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (kdS6q)

178
No, he doesn't have the "support" of the Liberal press, he just took one big fucking issue away from them. I also expect he will have a big sop to the education lobby in the new state budget coming up, because the press is drooling over all the "education" problems. A lot of districts are nearly broke because their tax base is evaporating. Most of Ohio schools are run on property tax collections.
The Democrats at present have no one to run against him, but then again there is another year before it gets ugly (Kasich up for re-election in 2014).

I have no idea how this is going to play out, but the correct answer is that - yes, the Federal money will go away some day because there just ain't gonna be anymore.

It will be interesting as to how he rationalizes this, because it will take a mammoth rationalization to keep a big segment of the Right behind him. They may just sit it out in 2014.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (RFeQD)

179 169

infiltrated by reich-wingers, clearly

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (60GaT)

180 "147 What are they doing to make them seem less classy now?

*****

Selling huge teddy bears with the claim that it will, *wink wink*, pay off later.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:44 PM (piMMO) "

Everyone loves prostitution!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (tbBtG)

181 135
OT bleg: my wife want to make her computer look like its from the UK to watch a show, any recommendations?


Put the mouse to the left of the keyboard?

Posted by: rickl at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (sdi6R)

182 Kasich just wants people to think he's a pussy - that's when he lowers the boom!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (+lsX1)

183 Oh, oh.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 05, 2013 07:50 PM (ORGYc)

184 into the barrel for me , KASICH, my beeyoch!

Posted by: King Hussein I at February 05, 2013 07:50 PM (EZl54)

185 King Hussein --see that barrel over there?

Posted by: logprof at February 05, 2013 07:50 PM (jVAw4)

186 88% of Medicaid goes to old folks in nursing homes and children for SCHIP.

So yes, it is pure welfare.

Let's roll those gurney's out in the street!

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at February 05, 2013 07:50 PM (LSTjp)

187 Does Vermont Teddy Bear make a bear that looks like a couch? I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 05, 2013 07:51 PM (+lsX1)

188 It will be interesting as to how he rationalizes this, because it will take a mammoth rationalization to keep a big segment of the Right behind him. They may just sit it out in 2014.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 05, 2013 07:49 PM (RFeQD)

____________

well in Ohio looks like they sat it out in 2012--kind of an ass kicking.

Also it might had looked like the healthcare thing wasn't that big of a deal when...you know.

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 07:51 PM (r2PLg)

189 Think about it. Congress can't pay for what they mandate today. What
makes us think they can pay for even bigger costs in the future.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)

That's the point. The Fed. Gov. doesn't cover the full cost and over years tapers off down to nothing. This is guaranteed to bankrupt states and any state that signs on, is signing their own death warrant.

Posted by: Deli LLama at February 05, 2013 07:51 PM (lGu1O)

190 Fuck Ohio. They can't even keep their rivers from catching on fire.

Posted by: SmokyBourbon at February 05, 2013 07:51 PM (2i6Vi)

191 I'm from Wisconsin if Walker doesn't back down what does that mean for me?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 05, 2013 07:51 PM (mqCRO)

192 Beyonce pig snout bears in black leather's a big seller.

Posted by: Male-order Couch Bear at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (jTr5F)

193 OT bleg: my wife want to make her computer look like its from the UK to watch a show, any recommendations?

Turn on the webcam and start smiling with some fake bad teeth.

Posted by: stereotypes... ain't they grand at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (hi03F)

194 Thank god we're extinct and the chicken is getting all the action.

Posted by: The Dodo's at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (J6hHs)

195 Finally, some bold leadership!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (tbBtG)

196 Anyone in Ohio--was their much of an attack on ObamaCare via campaign ads?

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (r2PLg)

197 Hookers and money, it gets them every time.

Posted by: Bildo (Crash Test Assoc with VETSA) at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (eToum)

198 186

i thought you were supposed to be a libertarian or something. libertarians are known grandma-killers.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (60GaT)

199 I can't wait for my taxes to go up to pay for all of this shit.

It will be so awesome.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (pcgW1)

200

Mitt Romney's Tax Returns!!

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:53 PM (FC8Yl)

201 "Some suggest we should accept the federal government's offer of
additional funds under provisions of the Affordable Care Act. However,
given the uncertainty around the federal budget, long-term funding is
highly uncertain.



Think about it. Congress can't pay for what they mandate today. What
makes us think they can pay for even bigger costs in the future."



At least Walker sees this Medicaid money is fool's gold. Any state going along with the expansion is going to have to have a major tax hike to pay for it once the Feds scale back. 10% of a dollar amount the states don't have equals need for more tax revenues, even if the Feds promise to foot 90% of the bill (and for who knows how long?). What short-sighted stupidity, although, yeah, you can partially blame it on the fact that Kasich will be vilified for not taking the opportunity to "help the poor".

At least once the robots take over, "the poor" and Democrats will finally be put to their optimal use, which is being burned for electricity to run the robot factories.

Posted by: BS Inc. at February 05, 2013 07:53 PM (aQWZx)

202 #135

Learn to use torrents and save yourself the trouble. thebox.bz has nearly everything ever broadcast in the UK going back to the 60s. Keep an eye on the site for when they allow new signups.

Posted by: epobirs at February 05, 2013 07:53 PM (kcfmt)

203 Seriously!

Check out item #180

http://bit.ly/X0Hoia

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:53 PM (piMMO)

204 101
O/T, but important on the cultural front:



LandsEnd has spring girls dresses that come to the knee or below the knee. And knee length skirts

Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 05, 2013 07:35 PM (SUKHu


Got my catalog today. And they have twin sets.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2013 07:53 PM (UOM48)

205 191 I'm from Wisconsin if Walker doesn't back down what does that mean for me?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 05, 2013 07:51 PM (mqCRO)

Gasoline enema?

Posted by: BignJames at February 05, 2013 07:53 PM (Sg0G/)

206 Does Vermont Teddy Bear make a bear that looks like a couch? I'm asking for a friend.


***

A "friend" eh?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:54 PM (piMMO)

207
Don't worry, honey, I promise I'm poised for an erection.

Posted by: soothsayer takes a load off granny at February 05, 2013 07:54 PM (8dspl)

208 Some one called Mark Levin last week and said how much things were better in Ohio now that Kasich has been governor. I bet that man wishes he didn't call now.

Why? Did he give an explanation?

Posted by: CarolT at February 05, 2013 07:54 PM (z4WKX)

209 OT bleg: my wife want to make her computer look like its from the UK to watch a show, any recommendations?

Put it in a Mercedes and ram it into a wall.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 05, 2013 07:54 PM (X9Mnx)

210 Someone needs some time in the barrel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2013 07:54 PM (UOM48)

211
tasker @ 188

Yes, it did appear to me that a lot of people sat out the election in Ohio in 2012. My precinct is in a church and votes with five other precincts. It is usually pretty crowded on a presidential election day. Last November it wasn't.

Very freaking disappointing to say the very least.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (RFeQD)

212 IIRC we lost Florida by only a percentage point.

Ohio we lost by 3%

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (r2PLg)

213 We need to get our best physicists and engineers working on a tractor beam to make sure that SMOD does its duty.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (nZvGM)

214 Ohio ha?


Hail! to the victors valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring heroes
Hail! Hail! to Michigan
The leaders and best!
Hail! to the victors valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring heroes
Hail! Hail! to Michigan,
The champions of the West!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (9Bj8R)

215 Also, very cool, #181

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (piMMO)

216 196 Tasker,

Ogabecare was unpopular in Ohiobut as Donkass motherfucker is wont to do they are lying saying this is "free money"


Ohio GOP is either corrupt as fuck "Cleveland", retarded "Columbus", ethical to the point of stupidity with a dash of populism "Cincy-Dayton", or on life support "Toledostan and the coal area."

I wash my hands of them.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (LRFds)

217
Thanks all. Even the smart alecs which would otherwise not make it the hq.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (p/cQy)

218 i thought you were supposed to be a libertarian or something. libertarians are known grandma-killers.
Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 07:52 PM (60GaT)Why do you think it went for killingthe old people and left out the chill-- --drennn that it mentioned prior?

Posted by: Meremortal, watching it burn at February 05, 2013 07:56 PM (1Y+hH)

219 IIRC we lost Florida by only a percentage point.

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Thank goodness Rubio was able to help us out with that Hispanic vote, huh?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:56 PM (piMMO)

220 211
tasker @ 188

Yes, it did appear to me that a lot of people sat out the election in Ohio in 2012. My precinct is in a church and votes with five other precincts. It is usually pretty crowded on a presidential election day. Last November it wasn't.

Very freaking disappointing to say the very least.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (RFeQD)

_______________

First the union thing--then that.

Yep.

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 07:56 PM (r2PLg)

221 Ohio has terrible employment

everyone there wants entitlements

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at February 05, 2013 07:56 PM (J6kXj)

222 215
Also, very cool, #181

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:55 PM (piMMO)


Requires registration.....at least that's the screen I got.

Posted by: Tami at February 05, 2013 07:57 PM (X6akg)

223 211 CJ Burch,

What can I say Romney never apologized for the 47% "gaffe" in context and explained to the Ohio GOP that they are being fucked by the Fed and DC....

the national is ran by idiots, but the Ohio base are Corky from life goes on

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:57 PM (LRFds)

224
Said this before, the hill for the Pubs to die on is NOT having a hill to die on.

I suggest you abandon the national party, and concentrate on the state politics. Support your choice directly and ignore DC entirely.

You need to find a hill to die on--whatever is most important to you personally--and stand with it.

Mine will be 2A. Whatever the cost.

There is no longer any viable alternative Federally, it devolves to the states now, therein lies our salvation as a country. And only the Red states need be defended.


Posted by: irongrampa at February 05, 2013 07:57 PM (SAMxH)

225
tasker @ 196

Yes there was. I was at a Romney campaign rally where my congressman (Pat Tiberi) Rob Portman, John Kasich and Jack Nicklaus all spoke in support of Romney.

Kasich in particular spoke about the headwind he has to fight from Washington, which is why we needed to elect Romney. He was pretty adamant about it.

This rationalization about accepting the Medicare expansion is going to need a pretty thick prayer rug to deliver.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 05, 2013 07:58 PM (RFeQD)

226 What is this O-h-i-o that you speak of?

Posted by: Obama's Oiho campaign aides at February 05, 2013 07:58 PM (hi03F)

227 225 CJ Burch,

there is no rationalization...he was afraid of the liberal papers and "news'....

he caved, and I am through spelunking.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:59 PM (LRFds)

228 I suggest you abandon the national party, and concentrate on the state politics.

I heartily concur with IronGrampa

the only thing is, I'm not giving up on PA . . .yet. I know it's not a red state.

But it's not Ohio or anything (heh).

Seriously I have more hope for Michigan than OH

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at February 05, 2013 07:59 PM (J6kXj)

229 It's a virus now. The cure, brains for them, balls for us.
Good luck with that.

Posted by: FURPC at February 05, 2013 08:00 PM (0ImZM)

230 219 IIRC we lost Florida by only a percentage point.

***

Thank goodness Rubio was able to help us out with that Hispanic vote, huh?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 07:56 PM (piMMO)

__________________

There was about a 30,000 vote swing in Miami Dade.

Teo different studies showing two different things in the Miami Herald--so.

I watched to see if Romney did the usual trip to Versailles Cafe--and all that.

Didn't see it.

In one of the reports they alluded to the fact that there was trouble with Ryan because he was supposedly in favor of opening trade to Cuba--something like that.

However--the other report said that Romney did not lose the Latino vote in a significantly larger way than previous Republicans.

Hard to see how we win the Presidency without Florida and/or Ohio--just not going to happen.

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 08:00 PM (r2PLg)

231


hehe, netflix


Because you watched Ultimate Force: Elite Force, Bravo Two Zero...

Because you watched Pawn's Move*: The Woodcarver, The Letter Writer...

ahaha

*yeah, I went there


Dark British TV Dramas -- I'm beginning to see a pattern. Thanks Netflix.

Posted by: 'N Roses at February 05, 2013 08:00 PM (LpQbZ)

232
LandsEnd has spring girls dresses that come to the knee or below the knee. And knee length skirts
Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser




I see the classic economy/hemlines relationship is holding.

Next stop, 1970s granny dresses.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2013 08:00 PM (kdS6q)

233 Later, all.

God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 05, 2013 08:00 PM (tbBtG)

234 228 Black Orchid,

I didn't when I got to Indiana, I do now.

Ohio wants to be either New detroit or New New England I want to be a new whatever but not either of those.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 08:01 PM (LRFds)

235 We need a national LiB movement. Try to take as much money from the government as you can to make the emburning happen sooner. I already applied for food stamps, but was turned down because I actually have a good paying job.

I tried, though. I'm still going to look for some bullshit grants or something.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 08:01 PM (pcgW1)

236 Only an idiot state level politician would sign onto this aspect of Obamacare, but that is why we affectionately refer to the republican party as the stupid party. They (the states that buy into this) will lose all control over Medicare and have federal coverage rules imposed and enforced. The best I can say for the Republican party is that it never fails to disappoint and cave! These R assholes can't even play a game with a two year payoff window, let alone a decade payoff window. Meanwhile the prog scum party has been playing a century long game, playing it well, and playing to win!


Conservatives believe that men are capable of self-government by consent of the governed.

Progressives believe that men are only capable of being governed by their superiors!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:01 PM (Cnqmv)

237 Do any of the New England states export energy to the rest of the country?

Posted by: Bildo (Crash Test Assoc at VETSA) at February 05, 2013 08:02 PM (eToum)

238 More free shit for parasites that want to look amazing with their ebt cards.
And my taxes go up

Posted by: Avi at February 05, 2013 08:03 PM (TyCgL)

239 225
tasker @ 196

Yes there was. I was at a Romney campaign rally where my congressman (Pat Tiberi) Rob Portman, John Kasich and Jack Nicklaus all spoke in support of Romney.

Kasich in particular spoke about the headwind he has to fight from Washington, which is why we needed to elect Romney. He was pretty adamant about it.

This rationalization about accepting the Medicare expansion is going to need a pretty thick prayer rug to deliver.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at February 05, 2013 07:58 PM (RFeQD)

___________

*shit*.

Kasich is probably closer to the Ohio tea leaves than most.

Ohio, Ohio, Ohio.

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 08:03 PM (r2PLg)

240 just gotta make more inroads in the Midwest maan.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 08:05 PM (60GaT)

241
224
Said this before, the hill for the Pubs to die on is NOT having a hill to die on.
I suggest you abandon the national party, and concentrate on the state politics. Support your choice directly and ignore DC entirely.
...

Posted by: irongrampa at February 05, 2013 07:57 PM (SAMxH)


Damn straight, irongrampa. I emailed my state senator the other day about gun control and she was not responsive. So I emailed her again and she gave me a very terse reply. She needs to be replaced, and I will do what I can to make that happen.

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 08:05 PM (pcgW1)

242 Paul Ryan is the future of the party. I think.

Posted by: Craig Poe at February 05, 2013 08:06 PM (BVkEs)

243 237 Do any of the New England states export energy to the rest of the country?

We'll be exporting clean, wind produced electricity um, soon.

Posted by: fluffy at February 05, 2013 08:06 PM (QODhs)

244
Requires registration.....at least that's the screen I got

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scroll down

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 08:07 PM (piMMO)

245 #243

You forgot "reliable".

Posted by: Marmo at February 05, 2013 08:07 PM (pcgW1)

246
This rationalization about accepting the Medicare expansion is going to need a pretty thick prayer rug to deliver.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch




Looking at reports ofnthe rest of his budget package, it looks like he's using the Obama money to offset some reductions/shifts in state taxes. Medicaid looks to be about half the budget, so it's a big driver.

Financing his 2014 run on our nickel...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2013 08:07 PM (kdS6q)

247 Posted by: Craig Poe at February 05, 2013 08:06 PM (BVkEs)

Why?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:08 PM (Cnqmv)

248 Our country now tastes like old man's knees.

Posted by: FURPC at February 05, 2013 08:08 PM (0ImZM)

249 CAC thread up

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:11 PM (Cnqmv)

250 He shoulda just encouraged his parasites to goto neighboring states that were expanding

Posted by: Avi at February 05, 2013 08:11 PM (ZSzI3)

251
247 Why?


Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:08 PM (Cnqmv)

---
Fiscal Responsibility = Counting Your MoneyEven so come quickly President Jesus......

Posted by: Craig Poe at February 05, 2013 08:13 PM (BVkEs)

252 SMOD thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 08:14 PM (piMMO)

253 Ted Cruz is the future of the republican party.
He was the most impressive questioning Hagel last week.

Posted by: CarolT at February 05, 2013 08:15 PM (z4WKX)

254 If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. – Samuel Adams

Posted by: sandbagger at February 05, 2013 08:16 PM (O2M3I)

255 Sometimes you just need to let the kids find out the hard way.

LIB

Posted by: Spypeach at February 05, 2013 08:22 PM (pwTow)

256 The litmus test is pretty clear for our side.
When faced with the choice of saving individual rights and freedoms or your political ass, it better not be your goddam ass.

I'd take one Allen West before 1000 Kasichs.
And I don't care if you want to quantify that in votes.
We're on THE motherfucking hill RIGHT NOW.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 05, 2013 08:22 PM (aZ6ew)

257 Posted by: sandbagger at February 05, 2013 08:16 PM (O2M3I)

Sam, can I get designer chains (maybe with the Obama campaign logo)?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:23 PM (Cnqmv)

258 Kasich- just another jelly-spined, lip-service conservative.

Imagine that.

Why even elect these lying dirtbags?

Posted by: naturalfake at February 05, 2013 08:24 PM (UgFxe)

259 This is a springboard to the 2016 nomination. It worked for Mitt.

Posted by: nip at February 05, 2013 08:24 PM (11Tdq)

260 Check out item #180



http://bit.ly/X0Hoia



Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
---
Mine was similar with jewel 2 stage trigger. Sold for 2100 days before the incident.

Posted by: All Wee Wee Dup at February 05, 2013 08:31 PM (sa6D2)

261 1 Time to recognize no government stooge is your friend. None...

thread winner
Close it Up

Posted by: Dark Ages at February 05, 2013 08:32 PM (+kznc)

262 Article V, that is all.

Posted by: Dark Ages at February 05, 2013 08:41 PM (+kznc)

263 Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at February 05, 2013 07:46 PM (8ZskC)

Damn, Cicero. If you were a chick, I would want to do bad things to you just for that.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at February 05, 2013 08:41 PM (YZqSb)

264 Ohio must be full of Republicans who want hand-outs and distrust rich guys.

How else to explain how it went for Obama so hard?

Posted by: sexypig at February 05, 2013 08:43 PM (dZQh7)

265 Not with a bang but with a whimper.

Posted by: toby928© at February 05, 2013 08:51 PM (QupBk)

266 Truly the True Cons really sent the Establishment a lesson.

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 05, 2013 09:15 PM (qiXMt)

267 The ONT can go up now. By executive order.

Posted by: TFG at February 05, 2013 09:41 PM (Jh9QN)

268 $#!+ wrong thread. fail

Posted by: TFG at February 05, 2013 09:46 PM (Jh9QN)

269
<i>There is no GOP.

We have the fifth column taking over.

Kinda frightening if youve read anything about the history of asshole leftists destroying countries.</i>

So, are we going to be Greece or Argentina? Maybe Venezuela?

Posted by: Lily at February 05, 2013 09:56 PM (igSv+)

270 He should have stayed in McKees Rocks.

Posted by: Baldy at February 05, 2013 10:16 PM (opS9C)

271 When the nation calls for heroes the GOP let's it go to voicemail.

Posted by: sandbagger at February 05, 2013 10:21 PM (O2M3I)

272 Meh,
Did you really think this was not going to happen? We are Europe, we got on that super highway to collapse when FDR was President it has just taken that long for it to become obvious. All you can do now is say F** It and suck on the Government tit for all it is worth, the sooner it happens the less damage it will do. So live large on the Government cheese for as long as you can and apologize to your children every day for what they will have to endure. LET IT BURN!

Posted by: Oldcrow at February 05, 2013 10:40 PM (7LL7t)

273 Hugh Hewitt thinks this is just spin from Politico, and that "Ohio' John Kasich is a popular and effective governor, and headed towards re-election.". Also, Hugh believes that "The conservative case for expansion (Medicaid) is to get more federal dollars to use locally.". Where to begin? First off, Kasich is most certainly NOT a popular nor effective gov., and I wouldn't wager Hugh's pay check that he wins re-election. And when did tribal-based wealth redistribution become a conservative principal Hugh? I'm seriously beginning to wonder about this guy.

http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog


Posted by: WVinMN at February 06, 2013 12:43 AM (mab4s)

274 Very disappointed in Kasich. Very.

Posted by: Kelly at February 06, 2013 01:03 AM (oEfom)

275 Disappointed in all the GOP governors who are taking the 30 pieces of silver.

I predict the others will eventually fall in line.

Posted by: PJ at February 06, 2013 01:11 AM (ZWaLo)

276 "A cover letter from a young foreigner called "Ace" was posted to Reddit and then Funny Or Die and soon the rest of the Internet."

http://tinyurl.com/as2n363

Posted by: food fight! at February 06, 2013 01:45 AM (/b8+5)

277 Maybe he should go back to television if he can't take the heat of being a republican governor.

Posted by: food fight! at February 06, 2013 01:47 AM (/b8+5)

278 Speaking of elections and consequences:

"Dick Morris Is Out At Fox News After His Awful Election Prediction Of Romney In A 'Landslide'"
http://tinyurl.com/bew2emc

Posted by: food fight! at February 06, 2013 03:23 AM (/b8+5)

279 And Karl tries desperately to walk it back

http://tinyurl.com/ba7a83q

Posted by: food fight! at February 06, 2013 03:47 AM (/b8+5)

Posted by: Vic at February 06, 2013 06:47 AM (53z96)

281 I can barely make out the tipping point in my rearview mirror.

Posted by: oh well at February 06, 2013 09:02 AM (/A1Rb)

282 Expected Kasich to crumble just like Arnold, just like GHWB, just like _________________ most Republicans. Republican leaders for the most part are not from the middle class and do not share their anxieties. Thus, "free money" from Washington, gets Kasich closer to reelection in a state that voted for Obama's free stuff. Of course he is going to dump on his base to get more of the FSA voters--during reelection he relies on the fact that the opposing candidate will be worse to keep the base voter.

The answer is change the game--until the crisis in sovereign debt comes--we will see this scenario repeated ad infinitum. It will burn when the sovereign debt crisis comes--Western world is over 400% debt/GDP ratio with liabilities--and the game will change. Poor governments without borrowing power cannot do much by necessity.

Posted by: wg at February 06, 2013 10:19 AM (oGiHy)






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