Building The Narrative: GOP At Least As Responsible For Sequester As Obama According To The Democratic Machine Media (DMM)

Someone on Twitter said the best part of Twitter is watching the liberal media get their stories straight and build their narrative in real time. Here's a great example.

Obama wants to delay the sequester saying they are dangerous to the economy (which he said was "poised for growth"). This is rather rich coming from the guy who proposed it to begin with.

Since that's somewhat inconvenient, the media has to get to work.

But even if we assume that the idea did originate in the White House, we need to remember one more thing: The debt ceiling agreement that contained the sequestration cuts got significantly more Republican support than Democratic support.

In fact, 174 of 240 House Republicans voted for it, while just half of House Democrats joined them (95 out of 190 votes). In the Senate, Democrats carried the vote, providing 45 of the 74 “yes” votes, but Senate Republicans also supported it by a 28-19 margin.

So in total, more than 70 percent of congressional Republicans voted for the deal that included the sequester, while 58 percent of Democrats voted for it.

...

And by repeatedly referring to the cuts as Obama’s idea (something that is technically correct), they are trying to win the war of semantics, which the White House has been more successful at in recent months.

But Democrats have a pretty effective case to make that the GOP owns the sequester just as much as the White House does. After all, Republicans overwhelmingly supported it, and the bill passed with bipartisan support.

Ah it's "technically correct" but the Democratic spin on it is pretty helpful so the Washington Post dutifully repeats it.

Of course, one story alone does not a narrative make. So NBC (naturally) follows suit.

Ah, "context". You see, truth isn't enough. It's "context" that matters.

Here's how it works....if the GOP opposes an Obama idea, it's simply being obstructionists. But if they agree to an Obama idea has part of the Holy Grail of bi-partisan "compromise", then they own the idea as much, and probably a little bit more really, than Obama does.

Keep any eye out for this theory, I think it's going to be very popular in the coming days.

Bias? What media bias?

Something I forgot to note: Sequester has been around for over a year. But the within minutes of Obama declaring it to be something he's against, the Washington Post runs out to declare that the evilllll Republicans are responsible for this.

Posted by: DrewM. at 02:29 PM



Comments

1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 02:32 PM (8y9MW)

2 a) goddamn Republicans won't touch defense!

b) goddamn Republicans cutting Necessary Defense Stimulus too much!

etc.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:32 PM (60GaT)

3 Here's how it works....if the GOP opposes an Obama idea, it's simply
being obstructionists. But if they agree to an Obama idea has part of
the Holy Grail of bi-partisan "compromise", then they own the idea as
much, and probably a little bit more really, than Obama does.


So... more or less what we've been saying here for, how long? Four years, at least?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 02:32 PM (8y9MW)

4 All this talk of bias is nice, but lets get to the real issue vis a vie the media: how do we hasten the MSM's death?

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 05, 2013 02:32 PM (t06LC)

5 MFM delenda est.

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2013 02:33 PM (GQ8sn)

6 Where was that story about the power of wordsmiths?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 05, 2013 02:33 PM (GxH5w)

7 I just found out that the "nurse" at Casa De Campo was a Republican.

This explains a lot, but the shit on my balls is still burning like hell and when I pee it still hurts.

Fucking spic dentist.


Posted by: Sen Menendez at February 05, 2013 02:33 PM (wR+pz)

8 also didn't Chuck Hagel say the sequester was no big a while back? i'm sure there's context though (he always needs more context.) he's a "smart" Republican as you could see from his hearings

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:33 PM (60GaT)

9 Posted by: Jollyroger at February 05, 2013 02:32 PM (t06LC)

We hoist you and begin slitting throats?

Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2013 02:34 PM (L8r/r)

10 4

challenge their core assumptions that lead to automatic left-tilting perspective. get more conservatives to go into media. etc.

AKA i really don't know but i do think taking it over is better long term than just keeping with opposition media targeted toward people who're already center-right.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:35 PM (60GaT)

11 I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with a law duly passed by a bipartisan Congress and signed by the president less than a year ago.

Posted by: toby928© presents another finely crafted comment at February 05, 2013 02:36 PM (evdj2)

12 Yeah I called it this morning when General Manly Throw McMomjeans Hero of Hole 19 said "whoa er uh ah hold on a sec"

The blowjob press will allow Ogabe to try to aikido all blame to the GOP.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:36 PM (LRFds)

13 10 JDP,

I prefer the "divorce" and deny them foreign correspondent credentials but I digress.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:37 PM (LRFds)

14 Your mouth --

Voted overwhelmingly to support my sequester...

so now you're gonna own it.

Posted by: Barry O. at February 05, 2013 02:37 PM (uOWHN)

15 AllenG, you should come join us on twitter. Having fun screwing with Cantor's hashtag.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 02:37 PM (GEICT)

16 I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with a law duly passed by a
bipartisan Congress and signed by the president less than a year ago.


It's politically inconvenient, and it would reduce (however slightly) the power of the Federal Government.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 02:37 PM (8y9MW)

17 Obama was forced to do it cuz of those debt-hostage taking meanies yo. they made him!

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:38 PM (60GaT)

18 All this talk of bias is nice, but lets get to the real issue vis a vie the media: how do we hasten the MSM's death?
Posted by: Jollyroger


Hi there!

Posted by: Repurposed Rules for Radicals at February 05, 2013 02:38 PM (NTBjC)

19 Hey, remember when a cosmic shit-ton of us said this would come back to bite the people that voted for it?

Mitch McConnell...super genius.

Insert exploding Acme thing here.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2013 02:38 PM (EDjKF)

20 AllenG, you should come join us on twitter. Having fun screwing with Cantor's hashtag.

Waaa??? I was in a meeting, and then my boss took me to lunch.
What is it?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 02:38 PM (8y9MW)

21 11 Toby 928th,

Well you see John Boehner used negative response control to get what he wanted from king Putt already....*insert crying boner gag here* so now Ogabe faces real cuts.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:38 PM (LRFds)

22 One Senator's vote is equal to one Representative's vote? That's what they want to go with to defend this as a Republican idea?

Posted by: red sweater at February 05, 2013 02:39 PM (oATMN)

23 20 AllenG,

read the sidebar Mickey Cantor went full retard

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:39 PM (LRFds)

24
The Dems hound you until you give them what they want..

Then, they blame you for it...for giving you what they wanted.

And if you say 'No' to them, and don't give them what they want...then they throw a hissy fit and declare you are being "unreasonable".

Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 02:40 PM (BZMZX)

25 "It's politically inconvenient, and it would reduce (however slightly) the power of the Federal Government."

i think some people on both sides are concerned that too-deep cuts would have an adverse economic impact

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:41 PM (60GaT)

26 All the conservative media and drudge should get together and do an opposite day. Report the news the way the MSM would report it, but exaggerated. Creative headlines that make everything the conservatives/republicans do look uber good. It would be fascinating to see the results.

Posted by: food fight! at February 05, 2013 02:41 PM (/b8+5)

27 Anytime a Democratic politician (and usually a Republican politician) says that something is dangerous to the economy, I assume the opposite.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 02:41 PM (gmeXX)

28 24 Wheatie,

Yeah I've been pondering that for about a year and I suddenly remembered what my answer was with a girl I was arguably common law married to eventually....

"run, run RUN SVEN RUN!"

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:41 PM (LRFds)

29
Haha Repubs, you dumbasses.

But it doesn't really matter, there will be no sequester. Never was going to be. They are just playing the political game to see who gets to keep their phony baloney jobs, although the never ending govt growth is the goal for both parties.

They play, you pay.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2013 02:41 PM (p/cQy)

30 Waaa??? I was in a meeting, and then my boss took me to lunch.
What is it?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 02:38 PM (8y9MW)



Cantor went full DC Repub on twitter. Amnesty, big gov, feds in education. All using the hashtag #MakingLifeWork. So some of us are having a little fun with it. Me, NDH, DarthWyatt, Phxazgrl...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (GEICT)

31 4 All this talk of bias is nice, but lets get to the real issue vis a vie the media: how do we hasten the MSM's death?

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Let them compete in the Hunger Games to see what "journalist" survives.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (e0xKF)

32 The point being NOT that the media can't point out the GOP support for this. But that it NEVER takes the same approach to Democratic semantics.

In fact, he makes note that the White House had been winning the game of semantics - which is the first time they reported the Dems were playing such a game.

Reminds me of the time the same paper covered the DHS report on "right wing extremism" and noted that in the 60s and 70s domestic terrorism was carried out by the Left. Which was the first readers had seen that. Even during the Bill Ayers discussion of 2008.

Posted by: CJ at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (9KqcB)

33 This is another example of why a prima donna legislator should not be elected to the executive.


Posted by: Fritz at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (WM+rJ)

34 My son is listening to Rush right now (lol..he doesn't have a choice) and he is fucking pissed. He didn't understand what all this meant. Now.. to quote the eloquent Rev Wright. Chickens coming home to roost. He didn't vote for the jugeared fuck.. he just didn't vote.

Posted by: jewells45 at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (u25eL)

35 Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 02:40 PM (BZMZX)

They're like the Mob. Do the Dems a favor and they own you for life.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (wbeNt)

36 25 JDP,

yeah because what we have now is a hot rod...

any GOPer who thinks this meager cut is "too far" needs to self-identify so we know who to destroy.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (LRFds)

37 You can't spell context without "CON".

Posted by: dfbaskwill at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (71LDo)

38 They treat Obama as if he were a special-needs child.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (T0NGe)

39 Harrumph!

Posted by: Vizzini at February 05, 2013 02:42 PM (O7Q1u)

40 34 jewell45,

You need to explain to him that being too cool to vote means you voted for the winner.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:43 PM (LRFds)

41 Posted by: Jollyroger at February 05, 2013 02:32 PM (t06LC)We hoist you and begin slitting throats?
Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2013 02:34 PM (L8r/r)

I'm down with that. Where's the goddamn rope. Excellent vantage point, although you guys get all the fun.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 05, 2013 02:43 PM (t06LC)

42 i think some people on both sides are concerned that too-deep cuts would have an adverse economic impact

There are about a thousand ways to dampen the effects...namely get the the government out of the economy. Energy is the low-hanging fruit. Hack the crap out of corporate and capital gains rates. And...yes, a little hogwild defense spending (actual weapons procurement) would be actual stimulus.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2013 02:43 PM (EDjKF)

43 38 AmishDude,

Yup....and they mainstreamed it enough we cheerfully eat shit sandwiches as "the new normal'

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:43 PM (LRFds)

44 I was a government budget analyst for many years. I believe people will be surprised at what the various agencies will find they can do without once the money isn't there. The "brute force" era of government (simply adding on more and more every year to accomplish the same or even reduced results) is over. As it should be. Let the sequester happen and make the agencies report honestly on wht they are doing to adjust. Just rememebr the old saying: "sacred cows make the best burgers."

Posted by: Chas T at February 05, 2013 02:43 PM (RIK55)

45 The media is going to blame Republicans?



Shit, now what did I do with my Shocked Face. I know I put it arounf here somewhere.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 05, 2013 02:45 PM (4c71i)

46 "Anytime a Democratic politician (and usually a Republican politician)
says that something is dangerous to the economy, I assume the opposite."

well it certainly won't _help_ the economy. it's just a question of tradeoff.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:45 PM (60GaT)

47 44 Chas T,

I love Jugears acting like he is not vulnerable to the public hearing about how many GS-15 and up symposia HAVE to be in Vegas or Maui....

yeah Giggles you don't want hearings.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:45 PM (LRFds)

48 Ah. I found it.

Sounds like fun.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 02:46 PM (8y9MW)

49 I left one out: The massive breath the credit markets will take without the government sucking up every bit of air in the room and then adding an inflationary basement.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2013 02:46 PM (EDjKF)

50 44 I was a government budget analyst for many years. I believe people will be surprised at what the various agencies will find they can do without once the money isn't there. The "brute force" era of government (simply adding on more and more every year to accomplish the same or even reduced results) is over. As it should be. Let the sequester happen and make the agencies report honestly on wht they are doing to adjust. Just rememebr the old saying: "sacred cows make the best burgers."

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The problem is that these fuckers LOVE to do what they can to stick it to the public while protecting the bullshit.

Remember the "government shutdown" of 1995 where the national parks and monuments closed for a while?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 05, 2013 02:46 PM (e0xKF)

51 I believe people will be surprised at what the various agencies will find they can do without once the money isn't there.

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That's what I'm afraid of. That is why it is necessary to get rid of the agencies altogether. Money or not, they will find a way to screw things up.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 02:46 PM (gmeXX)

52 But Ashleigh Banfield!!!!!!!

Posted by: © Sponge at February 05, 2013 02:46 PM (xmcEQ)

53
Exactly what I predicted. The Narrative dominion guarantees they can never be blamed or take responsibility for anything that goes wrong. It's baked into the cake.But republicans never learn. Demonstrated when idiots like Ed Morrissey blather about "silver linings" and how Republicans now have negotiating advantages, as if prior positions or facts or truth or historical memory have anything to do with reality within the Narrative dominion.

Posted by: rrpjr at February 05, 2013 02:47 PM (yBrS/)

54 I didn't do it.

Posted by: Preezy Not My Responsibility at February 05, 2013 02:47 PM (gCa4h)

55 sven...it wasn't the cool thing. He just didn't care for either guy. We tried to talk to him. Unfortunately he has never been interested in politics. He will be now. He's finally got a good job he loves, plans out moving out this fall. Oh boy...things could get dicey, cuz we want to look into downsizing now that both kids will be gone by fall. This house is more than we need and more really, than we can afford.

Posted by: jewells45 at February 05, 2013 02:47 PM (u25eL)

56
This is where I get to repeat my "I want to see them cut $1. Just ONE dollar of the federal govt spending less than the previous year".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2013 02:48 PM (p/cQy)

57 55 Jewell45,

I didn't like either guy really....

Civics is working within the system to try to minim ize the asshole's ability to blow shit up not American Idol.

Sounds like you're trying to screw his head on right.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:48 PM (LRFds)

58 I remember Obama's courageous veto of his idea ...

Posted by: Jean at February 05, 2013 02:49 PM (AP6/F)

59 I was watching Hawaii-5 0 last night and they managed to slip in the anti-gun agenda in there.

Guess I won't be watching that show anymore.......

"Guns don't kill peo......."

"Don't give me that 'line!' I'm tired of it. NO GUNS, NO GUN CRIME!"


FUCK hollywood.

Posted by: © Sponge at February 05, 2013 02:49 PM (xmcEQ)

60 This is where I get to repeat my "I want to see them cut $1. Just ONE
dollar of the federal govt spending less than the previous year".


And this is the part where I repeat: "Don't hold your breath."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 02:49 PM (8y9MW)

61 Building the Narrative, or falling back on the old narrative?

When in doubt, blame the old white dudes.

Posted by: Fritz at February 05, 2013 02:50 PM (WM+rJ)

62 The media is going to blame Republicans?


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I am reminded of Lt. Spears in Band of Brothers saying something of the effect to a scared private to motivate him to fight is that your mistake is not realizing that you already dead (paraphrase).

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 02:50 PM (gmeXX)

63 Me to the leftist Pravda scribes and talking heads: fuck you.

But Obama's more "balanced" in his imperious approach.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at February 05, 2013 02:50 PM (PH+2B)

64 Journolist Lives.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 02:50 PM (MMC8r)

65 O/T...I see "Activision Games" got youtube to pull the North Korean "I dream of nuking NY from space" video. I'm now officially curious.....

Posted by: Icedog at February 05, 2013 02:50 PM (9ScGj)

66 Obamaquestration - for all of your funemployment.

Posted by: Roy at February 05, 2013 02:50 PM (VndSC)

67 Here's how it works....if the GOP opposes an Obama idea, it's simply being obstructionists. But if they agree to an Obama idea has part of the Holy Grail of bi-partisan "compromise", then they own the idea as much, and probably a little bit more really, than Obama does.


Just let it fucking burn already.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2013 02:50 PM (7ObY1)

68 "
"Don't give me that 'line!' I'm tired of it. NO GUNS, NO GUN CRIME!"

+ lots more petty crime

libs probably see that as an acceptable "nuisance" though

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:51 PM (60GaT)

69 Doesn't it make more sense to simply say No criminals, No crime.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 02:51 PM (gmeXX)

70 C'mon you twitter Morons. You know it'll be fun.


#MakingLifeWork like an underage Dominican hooker



#MakingLifeWork like @GovChristie's colon

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 02:52 PM (GEICT)

71 We think Defense should be cut, but leave the social programs for the children, immigrants, poor, persons of color,and unemployed alone..........

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at February 05, 2013 02:52 PM (R8X+X)

72 Isn't the DMM partly responsible, too? Did the NYT support it? How about the WaPo? Did Chris Matthews push it? How about George Stephanopoulos? Dick Gregory? .....

Did they coerce the Republicans into voting for it by their implicit threats to help destroy the Republican Party for Obama if the Republicans didn't?

And here they are doing it again.

Posted by: Dusty at February 05, 2013 02:52 PM (KR2Ca)

73 Journolist Lives.

****

One has to admire the left's organization and drive.

They can spread the narrative at incredible speed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 02:52 PM (piMMO)

74 I love Jugears acting like he is not vulnerable to the public hearing about how many GS-15 and up symposia HAVE to be in Vegas or Maui....

I have to say something. As somebody who has organized conferences and meetings, Vegas is the way to go.

Flights are cheap and, during the week, hotels are cheap. The only disadvantage is that there isn't a lot of great public transportation so you probably want access to a rental car -- either you or a friend -- unless the meeting is in one hotel.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2013 02:53 PM (T0NGe)

75
Yep, I also won't hold my breath for whoever said the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling should be avoided because the hill to die on was the sequester.

You actually need combating forces to have a hill to die on, that doesn't exist in DC.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2013 02:53 PM (p/cQy)

76 On the bright side, if the Republicans put a gun to the head of America's trangendered minority children like this, they will be less-able to afford the guns to put to the heads of tomorrow's transgendered minority children.

Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 05, 2013 02:53 PM (I2LwF)

77 I wonder why they don't give this same 'context' to the Civil Rights bills. More Repubs voted for it than Dems (Gore, Fullbright)?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 05, 2013 02:54 PM (UU0OF)

78 sometime in the future, GOP helps eliminate sequester

"Do the Republicans deserve any credit for this?" by Nuanced Journalist

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:54 PM (60GaT)

79 They treat Obama as if he were a special-needs child.

Why shouldn't they? Too old?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 05, 2013 02:54 PM (SY2Kh)

80 75

Yep, I also won't hold my breath for whoever said the fiscal cliff
and debt ceiling should be avoided because the hill to die on was the
sequester.

I've seen the hill and we're already dead, Jim....

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at February 05, 2013 02:54 PM (9+ccr)

81 John McCain thinks sequester would be inappropriate at this time. There are other ways to register your dissapproval with respect to runaway government spending.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 02:54 PM (gmeXX)

82 I agree the prime culprits are Choom Boy and the Democrats. But the Republicans have had their snouts in the trough all the way, too.

I no longer care who "owns it." All the corrupt slimeballs in D.C. are culpable, and all should be punished severely for their crimes.

None will be, though. The best we'll get is some so-called conservative "pundits" yammering about it while the theft and economic thuggery continue unabated.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 05, 2013 02:55 PM (XScks)

83 We have no one in leadership who can match the Democrats rhetorically or demagogically so the truth will be what the donks and the media say it is.

And quite frankly Boener and the rest of the "braintrust" don't give a shit about setting the record straight anyway, they haven't on aything else why should they now.


It's winning by losing more slowly!


Posted by: General Woundwort at February 05, 2013 02:55 PM (RrD4h)

84 74 AmishDude,

I have to say, VTC or go to DC where there's plenty of executive space.

My foster dad was an SES I know the score.

Panetta ran up 32grand a weekend commuting on the tax payer dime.

32*52*4= $6,656,000 worth of frequent flyer miles.

Nice gig if you can get it.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:56 PM (LRFds)

85 The American media likes telling you what to think and who to hate and luckily for the Democrats, the Republican miraculously are always the evil villains responsible for all that is wrong in the universe. And if you disagree with the narrative then you are a toothless bigot, moron, racist, homophobe, science denier.

Posted by: OxyCon at February 05, 2013 02:56 PM (U7XyJ)

86 77

Southern Dems were a different ideological breed than other Dems though.

that's not to say "Southern Democrats were megaultraconservative on everything," just that they weren't leftists. so, it's not really significant in today's context.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 02:57 PM (60GaT)

87 We could cut spending by selecting states alphabetically and giving them their freedom.

Alabama, it's not working out. It's not you, it's us.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 02:57 PM (MMC8r)

88 The MSM always plays "heads I win, tails you lose" with Republicans and the Republicans continue to play along thinking that the next time might be different.

Idiots.

The only way to undo this Gordian Knot is to refuse to accept the premise in the first place. Breitbart got this - which is why we loved him and the left hated him. I hold no hope that anyone in the House or Senate even WANTS to understand how to win the game. That would be...uncollegial.

Posted by: Vizzini at February 05, 2013 02:57 PM (O7Q1u)

89 Interesting. But I have a question:Wonder whythe Dems don't want to play the percentages game when it comes to talking about the 1964 Civil Rights Act?

Posted by: Rocketeer at February 05, 2013 02:57 PM (/AHDz)

90 So what?

The daily/weekly/monthly race to Not Be Blamed is pointless. It's not just futile, but irrelevant to real policy outcomes.

Yes. Republicans voted for sequester. If that was a good thing, explain why. If it was a bad thing that can't be explained, why do it?

It's like watching a silver-screen comic do an extended pratfall. WHOOOOPS-- GOP getting bad press for its policy position gotta switch vote stupid just to end it kick the can down the road WHOOOOPS-- GOP getting bad press for its policy position gotta switch vote stupid just to end it kick the can down the road WHOOOOPS-- GOP getting bad press for its policy position gotta switch vote stupid just to end it kick the can down the road WHOOOOPS-- GOP getting bad press for its policy position gotta switch vote stupid just to end it kick the can down the road

And then wonder why the electorate shrinks.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 05, 2013 02:57 PM (v89sD)

91 The fact that Congressmen have a pension says it all doesn't it.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 02:57 PM (gmeXX)

92 John McCain thinks sequester would be inappropriate at this time. There are other ways to register your dissapproval with respect to runaway government spending.

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heh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 02:58 PM (piMMO)

93 I'll ask yet again, is there a single person on the planet who knows how sequestration is supposed to work?


Somewhat related, I thought the entire point of the unlimited debt ceiling was to avoid sequestration. So if sequestration is not being avoided then why is it, exactly, that we went through this whole bukkake in the first place?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 02:58 PM (VtjlW)

94 There was also greater GOP support for the Civil Rights Act but somehow the Dems claim it for themselves and call the GOP racist.

Posted by: epobirs at February 05, 2013 02:58 PM (kcfmt)

95 "Here's how it works....if the GOP opposes an Obama idea, it's simply
being obstructionists. But if they agree to an Obama idea has part of
the Holy Grail of bi-partisan "compromise", then they own the idea as
much, and probably a little bit more really, than Obama does"

Repubs will only own the ideas that Obama wishes to distance himself from. Even if Rs were 100% opposed, they'll be blamed for backing the The Little President Who Could into a corner or something. Any "good" ideas will be credited to President Urkel, regardless of how violently they may have been force-fed to him.

Bush will be blamed as long as the economy is in the crapper. Urkel will get credit as soon as it bounces back (for realz) even if that occurs under a Republican president, 10 years after Obama's left office.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at February 05, 2013 02:59 PM (ymovd)

96 At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2013 02:59 PM (Yto5R)

97 94 epobirs,

because all the evil donks went to the GOP at once or something....not true but not the point to the MFM

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 02:59 PM (LRFds)

98 Presdent Obama has ended the Bush wars in Iran and Afterganistien, so the war mongers at the Pentagun doesn't need all this money anymore. The City Of Brattleboro agrees with Presdent Obama and his strategery.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at February 05, 2013 02:59 PM (R8X+X)

99 Do not taunt The Narrative.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 05, 2013 02:59 PM (w+Dvf)

100 We could cut spending by selecting states alphabetically and giving them their freedom.


shit!

Posted by: Wyoming at February 05, 2013 03:00 PM (gCa4h)

101 How long before the headline reads "GOP Responsible for Economy-Crushing Effects of Sequester, Obama Lauded for Fiscal Responsibility, Experts Say."

?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 05, 2013 03:01 PM (mg08E)

102 I've been saying this for months. The Media will make all bad news be due to Republicans, and all good news due to Dems.

The Media must be destroyed.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 05, 2013 03:01 PM (xjpRj)

103 The fact that sequestration hits defense the hardest means that TFG will peel off enough Rs to get his way yet again.

Boehner, you magnificent bastard. And not in a good way.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 03:01 PM (MMC8r)

104 The media's Narrative-Generating-Complex (tm) is like spycraft. It works until you notice it. When a counterintel professional starts to follow a spy, the spy's tells/bnehaviors are like flashing beacons.

And guess what, we're noticing the pattern of their behavior. We're able to find, follow, and deconstruct the steps they take; not just the final product. (Like Journolist, inserting 'assualt rifle', etc). And, what's better, we're getting better at pointing it out.

Instead of just screaming, "Bias!", walk people through how their news is being shaped. How their thoughts are being managed. The evolution of the narrative.

This is the true win.

"Faster, please."

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 05, 2013 03:01 PM (X/+QT)

105 There was also greater GOP support for the Civil
Rights Act but somehow the Dems claim it for themselves and call the GOP
racist.


Posted by: epobirs at February 05, 2013 02:58 PM (kcfmt)


ManBearPig's POS father voted against it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2013 03:01 PM (GikLS)

106 Well, you hve to admit, the way the GOP "leadership" handled pretty much everything in the lead-up to the budget/sequestration battle pretty much guaranteed that they'd be set up for this to happen to them.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 05, 2013 03:02 PM (YYJjz)

107 Wyoming - How about we return the land to its proper soverign?

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 03:02 PM (gmeXX)

108 well politics back when the Civil Rights Act passed was much more coalitional.

Dems had a Dixiecrat wing, Republicans had Rockefeller and Goldwater wings that didn't have a ton in common.

so pointing out that the CRA lacked Dem support from certain regions doesn't mean much of anything.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:02 PM (60GaT)

109 Who tries the media?

The media.

We're fucked.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 03:03 PM (MMC8r)

110 83 We have no one in leadership who can match the Democrats rhetorically or demagogically so the truth will be what the donks and the media say it is.

And quite frankly Boener and the rest of the "braintrust" don't give a shit about setting the record straight anyway, they haven't on aything else why should they now.


It's winning by losing more slowly!


Posted by: General Woundwort at February 05, 2013 02:55 PM (RrD4h)

Sarah Palin would be their match but they've decided to neuter her.

Posted by: food fight! at February 05, 2013 03:03 PM (/b8+5)

111 They went all in. They've got skin in the game.


He really is the one they were waiting for.

Posted by: Heyoooohhhhhh at February 05, 2013 03:04 PM (KXm42)

112 Context THIS.

*jello salad*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 05, 2013 03:04 PM (ZKzrr)

113 You're just as much responsible for what happened in your mouth as I am . . . .

I mean, you're the one that opened your mouth, after all.

Which, I guess, is another way of saying: I see no reason why the GOP shouldn't own this; they went along with it, we told them not to, we told them they'd get any blame for the negative effects and none of the credit for any positive. But, they went along with it.

Or: Hey, you ate a shit sandwich and now you're complaining your mouth tastes like shit?

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 05, 2013 03:05 PM (VjL9S)

114 104 Tonic Dog,

What would be best would be watching the Twatter feed and scooping the story and bias of the newsies PRIOR to their reporting it with an audio feed or web media broadcast prior to their running the story...

"Media Watch"

Using the OODA loop on these fucks ain't hard

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:05 PM (LRFds)

115 Heck, just ask the journolist to explain what sequestration is and then ask who came up with it. I wish the pubs would start treating the media as the enemy they are.

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at February 05, 2013 03:06 PM (bj+Nc)

116 Random observation. I was over at the Conversation and there's a banner ad showing a gun with the caption would you turn in this gun to feed your family and I was staring at it thinking no because you can use the gun to feed your family. Is there something supremely obvious that I'm missing?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 03:06 PM (VtjlW)

117 In a way obama and the dems are right. The idiotic Republicans in Congress at the time did agree to this. Now THAT was a hill to die on.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (9Bj8R)

118 This is the President who GOT ELECTED in 2008 running on a platform of fiscal responsibility, mind you. And with us just coming off of Bush, it worked.

Posted by: navybrat at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (zW8II)

119 I wish we didn't have a half-drunk retard as speaker.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (Yto5R)

120 102 I've been saying this for months. The Media will make all bad news be due to Republicans, and all good news due to Dems.
The Media must be destroyed.


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Yep.
But it's not just the Media.

The entire Media/Entertainment/Education complex is a giant echo chamber of the same Narrative.

The same leftist bullshit is on display in movies, tv shows and classrooms...all across the country.

Sports used to be just about...sports.
Not anymore.
Now, even the SuperBowl is just another device for indoctrination.

Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (BZMZX)

121 When is the sequester supposed to occur?

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (gmeXX)

122 In a way obama and the dems are right. The idiotic Republicans in Congress at the time did agree to this. Now THAT was a hill to die on.

****

Republicans = terrible long game

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (piMMO)

123 Let's play the blame game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6HmebayyU

(nsfw)

Posted by: Kanye West at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (gCa4h)

124 93 ---"Somewhat related, I thought the entire point of the unlimited debt ceiling was to avoid sequestration. So if sequestration is not being avoided then why is it, exactly, that we went through this whole bukkake in the first place?"

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 02:58 PM (VtjlW)

Because....raaaaaaaaacist.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 05, 2013 03:08 PM (C8mVl)

125 I see no reason why the GOP shouldn't own this

Fine by me. The usual suspects need to stop complaining that they never cut anything because of politics. They did, and now all some of you can do is whine. IOW, there's no making you happy.


Posted by: pep at February 05, 2013 03:08 PM (YXmuI)

126 Ahh... those Repubs are as crafty as the serpent! They should be required to register their brains with the authorities as assault weapons.

Posted by: AAron Bleak at February 05, 2013 03:08 PM (bGlsD)

127 I wish we didn't have a half-drunk retard as speaker.

***

And a big government pansy as GOP Leader

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 03:08 PM (piMMO)

128 *jello salad*


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at February 05, 2013 03:04 PM (ZKzrr)
Let me know when you and AtC are 'rasslin in it. I want to be there.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2013 03:09 PM (L8r/r)

129 This is the President who GOT ELECTED in 2008 running on a platform of fiscal responsibility, mind you


---
Who cares. Have you heard him speak. Wow. Have you seen his pants. He even smokes a littlle. So edgy. Haven't seen any proof, but he did go to Columbia, I bet he is probably the smartest president ever.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 03:09 PM (gmeXX)

130 @125
they = GOP pols

Posted by: pep at February 05, 2013 03:09 PM (YXmuI)

131 the evilllll Republicans are responsible for this.


Go 'way , 'batin !

Posted by: L I V at February 05, 2013 03:10 PM (EZl54)

132 Let me know when you and AtC are 'rasslin in it. I want to be there.


Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2013 03:09 PM (L8r/r)

Glad you used the word 'rasslin or I'd have known you weren't really Country.

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at February 05, 2013 03:10 PM (bj+Nc)

133 so pointing out that the CRA lacked Dem support from certain regions doesn't mean much of anything.

You keep trying to make this point and it just doesn't work. The Democratic Party obstructed and filibustered every civil rights and even anti-lynching bill for nearly a century. AN EFFIN CENTURY. Racism, they ownz it.

Posted by: toby928© presents another finely crafted comment at February 05, 2013 03:10 PM (evdj2)

134 127 I wish we didn't have a half-drunk retard as speaker.

***

And a big government pansy as GOP Leader

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 03:08 PM (piMMO)




But they're #MakingLifeWork!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 03:10 PM (GEICT)

135 Is there something supremely obvious that I'm missing?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 03:06 PM


Well, if whoever's running your local gun grab Give-Peace-A-Chance-And-Turn-In-them-Hideous-Militaristic-Gun-Things program is passing Mickey D gift cards, I suppose one could say the gun is feeding your family.

Mostly, the prizes for giving up your freedom seem to be tickets to basketball games and shit like that.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 05, 2013 03:11 PM (XScks)

136 Obama is for fiscal responsibility though

high levels of "investments" + crank up tax rates more = fiscally responsible!!

yay

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:11 PM (60GaT)

137 The real narrative is that the Republicans in the House are equally responsible for the idea of sequestration as the Democrats in the House .. none.

Posted by: Neo at February 05, 2013 03:11 PM (e8kgV)

138
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 02:58 PM (VtjlW)


It takes two separate votes to screw us. Think about it as 1 bed, 2 bukkake.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2013 03:11 PM (p/cQy)

139 Fine by me. The usual suspects need to stop
complaining that they never cut anything because of politics. They did,
and now all some of you can do is whine. IOW, there's no making you
happy.




Posted by: pep at February 05, 2013 03:08 PM (YXmuI)


McRINO was complaining about this from day 1 because of the defense cuts. I had to weigh the possibility of that versus the absolute certitude of McStain being a clueless fuckstick and *voila* I was for it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2013 03:12 PM (GikLS)

140

Bull Conner: Democrat
Martin Luther King Jr: Republican

Posted by: toby928© presents history you won't get from the NEA at February 05, 2013 03:12 PM (evdj2)

141 [/s}Oh well, pooped in the HTML again...

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 05, 2013 03:12 PM (XScks)

142 Is Whorehouse Harry the only Senate pederast?

Posted by: torabora at February 05, 2013 03:12 PM (T2lO/)

143 But they're #MakingLifeWork!!!


****
#MakingLifeWork for those who contribute the least.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 03:12 PM (piMMO)

144 Glad you used the word 'rasslin or I'd have known you weren't really Country.

That cracked me up for some reason.

Posted by: Heyoooohhhhhh at February 05, 2013 03:12 PM (KXm42)

145 Kasich just lost re-election in Ohio by accepting Obamacare in Ohio. What a fool and RINO.

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:13 PM (4WesI)

146 The entire Media/Entertainment/Education complex is a giant echo chamber of the same Narrative. The same leftist bullshit is on display in movies, tv shows and classrooms...all across the country. Sports used to be just about...sports. Not anymore. Now, even the SuperBowl is just another device for indoctrination.
Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (BZMZX)


--------------------------------------------------


Remember Ace's post yesterday or the day before about the dems announcing that they'd be upping the volume of the echo chamber to destroy the repubs?

I think they should reconsider. The repubs are already destroyed.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2013 03:13 PM (Yto5R)

147 133

alls i'm saying is there isn't an ideological connection between what the George Wallace wing of the Democratic Party thought back then and what the Pelosi-Reid Democratic Party thinks now. it's like pointing out that at one time the GOP was for high tariffs.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:14 PM (60GaT)

148
"But even if we assume that the idea did originate in the White House, we need to remember one more thing: The debt ceiling agreement that contained the sequestration cuts got significantly more Republican support than Democratic support."
So, it seems Republicans just can't win, can they? When they vote AGAINST the president, they're obstructionists. When theyvote WITHthe president, they get blamed for his bad ideas.

Posted by: sydney jane at February 05, 2013 03:14 PM (zYWPO)

149 Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at February 05, 2013 03:10 PM (bj+Nc)

Grew up watching it broadcast out of Memphis with weatherman Dave Brown and Lance Russell as the announcers in the 70's and 80's. And one of Superstar Bill Dundee's girlfriends lived next door to us. She used to make his costumes. And my HS principal's first wife left him for Jerry "The King" Lawler. Yep, it's 'rasslin!

Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2013 03:14 PM (L8r/r)

150 What worries me, is that these GOP Governors are bending to Federal Money . They like the freebies as much as the Obama cultist morons

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:14 PM (4WesI)

151 I wonder if they will now concede that it was the Republicans who are most responsible for passing the Civil Rights legislation? After all 81% of Republicans Senators voted for the bill while only 68% of Democrats did.

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2013 03:14 PM (m2CN7)

152 Boehner looks like old hickory.

Posted by: Heyoooohhhhhh at February 05, 2013 03:15 PM (KXm42)

153 114
104 Tonic Dog,

What would be best would be watching the Twatter
feed and scooping the story and bias of the newsies PRIOR to their
reporting it with an audio feed or web media broadcast prior to their
running the story...

"Media Watch"

Using the OODA loop on these fucks ain't hard


Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:05 PM (LRFds)


Not hard at all.
But getting a rich/elected/connected conservative to do the last 75% (ODA) of the sequence *is* hard.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 05, 2013 03:15 PM (X/+QT)

154 The GOP Senate does not have the courage to force spending cuts, anyways their stock portfolios are going up, what do they care?

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:15 PM (4WesI)

155 alls i'm saying is there isn't an ideological connection

Yes, you do keep saying it but it means pretty much nothing. They held the black man down then, they're holding him down now. Just the method has changed, not their intent.

Posted by: toby928© presents history you won't get from the NEA at February 05, 2013 03:16 PM (evdj2)

156 my HS principal's first wife left him for Jerry "The King" Lawler.
Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2013 03:14 PM (L8r/r)

Wow. Thats worse than your wife leaving you to munch carpets full time. Thanks. I needed that.

Posted by: Lou Diamond Phillips at February 05, 2013 03:16 PM (t06LC)

157 The Democrats are the party of the racist, then, now and forever more apparently. They own the franchise.

Posted by: toby928© presents history you won't get from the NEA at February 05, 2013 03:17 PM (evdj2)

158 Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2013 03:14 PM (m2CN7)

epiors I see that you pointed this out early in the thread.

Posted by: polynikes at February 05, 2013 03:17 PM (m2CN7)

159 i mean i'm not a fan of affirmative action but i don't think it's equivalent to segregation

unless there are some other policies you're talking about

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:17 PM (60GaT)

160 Boehner likes the Federal perks he gets as Speaker.

The best way to find real conservatives to run for office, is make them forgo their federal pensions and perks.

That is the best way to weed out the RINO's

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:17 PM (4WesI)

161 Our "Light Worker" President doesn't have too many items in his legacy that are truly his and only his, but White House owns the idea of sequestration all by itself.

Posted by: Kosher Inspector at February 05, 2013 03:18 PM (e8kgV)

162 Menendez the child molester, would have resigned already if he were a Republican

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:18 PM (4WesI)

163
I am glad many people here have noticed. Rove, Cantor, Kasich, Christie all moving to join with the dems to consolidate power to the ruling class.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2013 03:19 PM (p/cQy)

164 156 my HS principal's first wife left him for Jerry "The King" Lawler.
Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2013 03:14 PM (L8r/r)

Wow. Thats worse than your wife leaving you to munch carpets full time. Thanks. I needed that.

---

I'm surprised that he picked up one that didn't come from a playground... or that his son Brian Christopher wasn't chasing first.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 05, 2013 03:19 PM (e0xKF)

165 "Obama wants to delay the sequester saying they are dangerous to the economy (which he said was 'poised for growth')."

Obama also said in the same comments that the economy was, in his words, "Going in the right direction."

Given that unemployment went up last month and that the economy was technically in recession in Q4 2012, you can draw your own conclusions about how well informed Obama is about economic matters.

Let's stop and imagine for a moment that a hypothetical Republican president had said that the economy was "going in the right direction" at a time when it was actually shrinking and when Americans were finding less work available.

Do you think that the White House press corps would have on their knee pads or their war paint in that hypothetical circumstance?

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2013 03:19 PM (gqT4g)

166 Yeah, increasing the deficit to over a trillion a year after taking over the House and Senate and then blocking new budgets from the senate after losing the house, that had no effect. Uh huh.

P. S. MFM delenda est.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at February 05, 2013 03:21 PM (fKyp3)

167 146...Remember Ace's post yesterday or the day before about the dems announcing that they'd be upping the volume of the echo chamber to destroy the repubs?
I think they should reconsider. The repubs are already destroyed.

-----------

Yep, I remember, Soona.

We are collectively in a 'Battered Spouse' position.

Which is why I think we should start using that.

Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 03:22 PM (BZMZX)

168 Herman Cain ✔ @THEHermanCain

@piersmorgan Bless your heart! Calling me out like we're on the playground. I was simply speaking the #truth, sir.


LOL.

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 03:22 PM (fWAjv)

169 163. Yep. The GOP Elite loves their first rate Health Care(Exempt from Commiecare) 6 figure salaries, expense accounts, and sweet pensions.

Joe Walsh IL-8, was the only GOP member of Congress to not take a pension. Of course he lost in a Dem gerrymander in 2012

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:23 PM (4WesI)

170 The ruling class loves to rule don't they. Almost as if its human nature. Almost why the founders put in so many checks and balances and divided government up laterally and horizontally. For all those obstacles put in place, the ruling class still found a way to rule.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 03:23 PM (gmeXX)

171
@piersmorgan Bless your heart! Calling me out like we're on the playground. I was simply speaking the #truth, sir.

-------------------------------------

What happened with Hermain Cain?

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at February 05, 2013 03:24 PM (F6KtL)

172 Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:17 PM (60GaT)

Not sure if trolling...

Or just that stupid.

Posted by: Vizzini at February 05, 2013 03:24 PM (O7Q1u)

173 Obama also said in the same comments that the economy was, in his words, "Going in the right direction."Given that unemployment went up last month and that the economy was technically in recession in Q4 2012, you can draw your own conclusions about how well informed Obama is about economic matters.


--------------------------------------------------


Baraka and his regime are marxists/maoists. The American economy is being destroyed. Hell yes he's going to say it's headed in the right direction. The destruction of the United States is what he wants.

You need to start looking at all of this through THEIR eyes.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2013 03:25 PM (Yto5R)

174 Well the good thing is that even the RINO's like Cantor and Boehner know that cannot waiver on gun control. They realize they lose the House for sure if they do, and would not get it back for 50 years.

Maybe Boehner likes being minority leader anyways. Shades of Bob Michel. Let's play Golf

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:25 PM (4WesI)

175 Uh oh....looks like Boehner ain't following the Obama/media script...

“We believe there is a better way to reduce the deficit, but Americans
do not support sacrificing real spending cuts for more tax hikes,” he
added. “The president’s sequester should be replaced with spending cuts
and reforms that will start us on the path to balancing the budget in 10
years.”

//Boehner

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:26 PM (LRFds)

176 172

a poster said Dems are run by racists. for all the criticisms of liberalism i have, that's not one of them.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:26 PM (60GaT)

177 173. With help from the CBO office and the Media

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:26 PM (4WesI)

178
Blaming Republicans for Democrats' fuck ups? Hey, we invented that in California.

There are only about five Republicans in the Legislature, and they're sitting in a corner, rocking and moaning. But accordingly to the Communist-infested media here, those five guys are to blame for all the problems here. This would be a worker's paradise, a wonderful People's Republic, but for those five guys who are fucking everything up, and keeping us from achieving the goals of the Five Year Plan.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2013 03:27 PM (IDSI7)

179 Yep, I remember, Soona.

We are collectively in a 'Battered Spouse' position.

Which is why I think we should start using that.

Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 03:22 PM (BZMZX)



Wait, so I get to start setting things on fire? Why does no one tell me these things?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 03:27 PM (VtjlW)

180 The Congressman Fairness Act:

1. No Pensions.

2. Salary = to the average adjusted gross income as determined by IRS for prior year.

3. No healthcare.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 03:27 PM (gmeXX)

181 146 The entire Media/Entertainment/Education complex is a giant echo chamber of the same Narrative. The same leftist bullshit is on display in movies, tv shows and classrooms...all across the country. Sports used to be just about...sports. Not anymore. Now, even the SuperBowl is just another device for indoctrination.
Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 03:07 PM (BZMZX)


--------------------------------------------------


Remember Ace's post yesterday or the day before about the dems announcing that they'd be upping the volume of the echo chamber to destroy the repubs?

I think they should reconsider. The repubs are already destroyed.
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2013 03:13 PM (Yto5R)

___________________

Football might be the only shared cultural norm.

The national "religion."

That and Global Warming.

The Information Age --with 700 television channels and infinite websites has fractured us up.

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 03:28 PM (r2PLg)

182 Who's responsible? George Fucking W Fucking Bush. Fucking.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2013 03:28 PM (XUKZU)

183 Boehner should come back and offer an increase of 10% over the last budget.

The last budget being the one passed in Bush's last year. "We're giving you a 10% spending increase!"

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 03:28 PM (MMC8r)

184 The GOP elite is making big $$$$ on Wall street these days.

Guns are the final straw. If they waiver, the GOP will be the Whigs

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:28 PM (4WesI)

185 Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:26 PM (60GaT)

It's called "the soft bigotry of low expectations".

Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2013 03:28 PM (L8r/r)

186 Sportswriters are mostly liberal. They are big union guys.

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:30 PM (4WesI)

187 What happened with Hermain Cain?

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at February 05, 2013 03:24 PM (F6KtL)

He was tweeting about how Piers had his ass handed to him, again.


Piers Morgan ✔ @piersmorgan
Stop mocking me from your keyboard @THEHermanCain - and come and debate guns on my show instead. If you've got the guts, obviously. #CNN

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 03:30 PM (fWAjv)

188 well sure. i didn't say it wasn't harmful in its own way.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:31 PM (60GaT)

189 Except the Libs hold in the collective.

Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 03:31 PM (r2PLg)

190 The last budget being the one passed in Bush's last year. "We're giving you a 10% spending increase!"

--

ISWYDT.

But all that money was spent on oil wars for that warmonger. No Dice.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 03:31 PM (gmeXX)

191 a poster said Dems are run by racists. for all the criticisms of liberalism i have, that's not one of them.
Posted by: JDP


Right. Paternalism could never be racist.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 05, 2013 03:32 PM (NTBjC)

192 I think JDP just needs Basic Course, maybe a Sowell injection.

Seriously, if you can't think of leftist policies that keep a Brother down, we may have to start over at the beginning.

Start with housing projects, welfare policies, social segregation, and counterproductive crime policy.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at February 05, 2013 03:32 PM (fKyp3)

193 178

they shouldn't be able to play that card anymore after this last election...although maybe they'll find any slightly-less liberal Democrats in the legislature (if they exist) to scapegoat

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:32 PM (60GaT)

194 #MakingLifeWork == #ArbeitMachtFrei ?

Posted by: Bigby's Ropin' Hands at February 05, 2013 03:33 PM (3ZtZW)

195 191 weft-cut loop,

yeah brainwashing generations of kids that without affirmative action they are doomed not racist at all...

God forbid we allow children to stand on merit as they become adults.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:33 PM (LRFds)

196 How much would we save cutting the budget of the JAG corps?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2013 03:33 PM (T0NGe)

197
He was tweeting about how Piers had his ass handed to him, again.


Piers Morgan ✔ @piersmorgan
Stop mocking me from your keyboard @THEHermanCain - and come and debate guns on my show instead. If you've got the guts, obviously. #CNN
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Ah, thanks

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at February 05, 2013 03:33 PM (F6KtL)

198 Football might be the only shared cultural norm.

The national "religion."




Football is now being even more explicitly politicized. I am already getting my dander up about this upcoming October's all pink all the time.


Hell, I've taken to watching rugby because if there's politics in it, I don't know what the hell it is. Next step? Cricket.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 03:33 PM (VtjlW)

199 Someone on Twitter said the best part of Twitter is watching the liberal media get their stories straight and build their narrative in real time.

So, Twitter is the public domain version of Journolist.

Got it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 05, 2013 03:33 PM (sbV1u)

200 Start with housing projects, welfare policies, social segregation, and counterproductive crime policy.

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Failing public schools that leave most of the people within them unable to function in society

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 05, 2013 03:33 PM (e0xKF)

201 Go back further. Start with unions, zoning, etc. Look at Sanger and the founding of Planned Parenthood. See who passed the Davis Bacon Act and why.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 03:34 PM (gmeXX)

202 179 ...We are collectively in a 'Battered Spouse' position.

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Wait, so I get to start setting things on fire? Why does no one tell me these things?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 03:27 PM (VtjlW)

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Heh.
They keep beating us, fucking us...and making us write bad checks.


Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 03:34 PM (BZMZX)

203 178. Well said Jay. I say the GOP gives the Blue states what they want. Dissolve the state GOP in those states and let them become one party fully.

New England, Left Coast, Maryland, let them have it all. Then use the resources to take out red state dem scum like Pryor etc.....

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:34 PM (4WesI)

204 come and debate guns on my show instead. If you've got the guts, obviously. #CNN

Beck and co. were going on about Piers Morgan today, saying he's clueless and just keeps getting pulverized on his own show and doesn't know it.

They've missed the point: Piers doesn't give a shit about the guns issue, he's just found something that drags people into his show. He doesn't care about debate-- it's show-whoring.

Who said a fucking thing about Morgan before he started the gun shit (other than how NO ONE was watching him)?

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 03:34 PM (MMC8r)

205 Wait, so I get to start setting things on fire? Why does no one tell me these things?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 03:27 PM (VtjlW)



Easy there Martina...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 03:34 PM (GEICT)

206 198 AlexTheChick,

Yup...

The NFL has gone full moonbat

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:34 PM (LRFds)

207 Football might be the only shared cultural norm. The national "religion."
Posted by: tasker at February 05, 2013 03:28 PM (r2PLg)


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Are you kidding? The marxists in DC want the American tradition of football destroyed too. Haven't you been keeping up on the war on football?

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2013 03:35 PM (Yto5R)

208 Wait, so I get to start setting things on fire? Why does no one tell me these things? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 03:27 PM (VtjlW)

Depends. Do you have the Farah Fawcett hair-do?

That's the prerequisite.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 05, 2013 03:35 PM (sbV1u)

209 There is no liberal media, if Republican men did not watch football

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:35 PM (4WesI)

210 #MakingLifeWork=So the FSA can keep getting more FS

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at February 05, 2013 03:35 PM (X+nFp)

211 192

of course i agree there's been corrosive policies over the years. but i think there's a line between saying "the Great Society fucked a lot of things up for blacks" vs. "the Great Society was racist." maybe that's hairsplitting, but i judge intent, even though intent ultimately doesn't matter in results.

Posted by: JDP at February 05, 2013 03:35 PM (60GaT)

212 NO GUNS, NO GUN CRIME!

***

Yeah, Julius Caesar died of old age.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2013 03:35 PM (XUKZU)

213 They keep beating us, fucking us...and making us write bad checks Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 03:34 PM (BZMZX)

Got video?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 05, 2013 03:36 PM (sbV1u)

214 201 SH,

now now donks well "progressives" had their mad on...they wanted Slavs, crazies, mixed race citizens, and "career petty criminals' all sterilized too....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:36 PM (LRFds)

215 I mean, if you don't think leftists are bigots, look at how they treat conservative minorities.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at February 05, 2013 03:36 PM (fKyp3)

216
Seriously, if you can't think of leftist policies that keep a Brother down, we may have to start over at the beginning.

Easier way to make the point: if every minority squawk were redressed to their satisfaction (assuming that that's possible, which I doubt), which party would gain, and which lose?

QED.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2013 03:36 PM (IDSI7)

217 Blocking vouchers.

Posted by: Heyoooohhhhhh at February 05, 2013 03:36 PM (KXm42)

218 in 5 years the NFL will become Flag football. With Obama and the left going after concussions, there will be numerous lawsuits, forcing Goddell to make tackling illegal

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:36 PM (4WesI)

219 Hope that Masters degree in Critical African Pottery Studies was worth it.


http://tinyurl.com/ay5xpq8




Needy U.S. borrowers are defaulting on almost $1 billion in federal
student loans earmarked for the poor, leaving schools such as Yale University and the University of Pennsylvania with little choice except to sue their graduates.

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at February 05, 2013 03:36 PM (EZl54)

220 209 sabline444,

Yup...and I won't lobby mega HARD for it but I think I am walking away


have fun with the Progtards Roger

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:37 PM (LRFds)

221 Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson did not use guns

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:38 PM (4WesI)

222 215 Mero,

hey everyone knows that those are just white guys dressed as women, blacks, asians, and hispanics

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:38 PM (LRFds)

223
in 5 years the NFL will become Flag football. With Obama and the left
going after concussions, there will be numerous lawsuits, forcing
Goddell to make tackling illegal

***

Well, as long as they don't mess with lingerie football.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2013 03:38 PM (XUKZU)

224 They keep beating us, fucking us...and making us write bad checks.


Posted by: wheatie at February 05, 2013 03:34 PM (BZMZX)

The checks aren't bad, the trouble is is that they are withdrawing it from our kids, grand kids, and great grandkids accounts.

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 03:38 PM (fWAjv)

225 Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson did not use guns

Neither did McVeigh.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 03:38 PM (MMC8r)

226 Right Sven. Network Newsrooms are always in the red, Football Profits fund their madness

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:39 PM (4WesI)

227 @223

UFC and Bellator

As pure as competition gets.

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at February 05, 2013 03:41 PM (EZl54)

228 They next project for the NFL, will be to create Gay players who are superstars

Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:41 PM (4WesI)

229 I have never seen more open racism than when I go to 'liberal strongholds' like San Francisco. 'Those poor dears can't help themselves' is just as racist as (insert ethnic epithet here).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at February 05, 2013 03:41 PM (fKyp3)

230 Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson did not use guns Neither did McVeigh.
Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 03:38 PM (MMC8r)


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Yup. And don't forget the spider-clowns.

Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2013 03:42 PM (Yto5R)

231 Football is now being even more explicitly politicized. I am already getting my dander up about this upcoming October's all pink all the time.

You know what really pisses me off about that?

Men...die...first.

I don't want to hear word one about womens' health as long as they keep living longer.

Think about this: If you are in a demographic more likely to get a certain disease, you are also more likely to live longer.

Hello?!?!? You don't need to know statistics to figure that one out.

Breast cancer is, of course, terrible for those who get it but there are other diseases out there that are more relevant to football. Like...I dunno...prostate cancer? What is a football-watching guy supposed to do? "Hey, honey, come here and have me check for lumps!"

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2013 03:42 PM (T0NGe)

232
leaving schools such as Yale University and the University of Pennsylvania with little choice except to sue their graduates.

It is to laugh.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2013 03:42 PM (IDSI7)

233 219 Hope that Masters degree in Critical African Pottery Studies was worth it.


http://tinyurl.com/ay5xpq8




Needy U.S. borrowers are defaulting on almost $1 billion in federal
student loans earmarked for the poor, leaving schools such as Yale University and the University of Pennsylvania with little choice except to sue their graduates.

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I really need to find and scan that old Mad Magazine section on programs to make things better that lead to further costly programs to fix problems the first one created.

Case in point - Student loan act leads to a bailout bill to help thousands of chronically unemployed PhD anthropologists educated under said loan act, with a picture of a bum with a sign reading "Hear about pygmy rituals - $0.15".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 05, 2013 03:43 PM (e0xKF)

234 San Francisco also is heavily zoned. Read Sowell on how the rich try to limit development in SF.

Posted by: SH at February 05, 2013 03:43 PM (gmeXX)

235
You know what really pisses me off about that?

Men...die...first.

I don't want to hear word one about womens' health as long as they keep living longer.


That's always pissed me off too. The feminists back in the day used to - and presumably still do - rant about the poor health care women get, and how researchers don't bother with diseases that affect them (WTF??).

How they square that spurious assertion with greater longevity I'll never know.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2013 03:46 PM (IDSI7)

236 Guns are the final straw. If they waiver, the GOP will be the Whigs
Posted by: sabline444@yahoo.com at February 05, 2013 03:28 PM (4WesI)

I don't think Republican Establishment leadership (like, say, Karl Rove) realize how close we are to a party split. It's odd they don't realize this, given that they're all educated men and women with at least some knowledge of American history. The Whig Partyfell apart when its leadership refused to fight the Democrats over the expansion of slavery into the territories. The keywords 'refused to fight' should be a giveaway right there.

Republicans like Boehner and McCain still believe Democrats are Democrats, colleagues with whom they can cut a deal. Truth is, Democrats haven't been Democrats since the far-Left assumed leadership of that party. They're now something else entirely even if many party members on the state and local levels don't know it yet.

Public protests against President Obama would do no good. He already knows we don't like him, and doesn't care. Maybe public protests by Republicans against Republican elected officials might have an impact, especially if the signs read, 'Remember The Whigs'. Maybe that would put some steel in their spines. It's worth considering, anyway.

Posted by: troyriser at February 05, 2013 03:46 PM (vtiE6)

237 in 5 years the NFL will become Flag football. With Obama and the left going after concussions, there will be numerous lawsuits, forcing Goddell to make tackling illegal


It was over for the NFL the minute they started wearing the pink shit. Wearing pink shit has never cured any cancers. Know what does help cure cancer? Money. Lots and lots of money. Which is what NFL players have, lots and lots of money.

They could just donate to cancer research. Crow about it in the media if they really need the attention. But wearing pink like a bunch of pussies? No point to it except emasculating the NFL.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2013 03:47 PM (7ObY1)

238 Hope that Masters degree in Critical African Pottery Studies was worth it.

http://tinyurl.com/ay5xpq8

Needy U.S. borrowers are defaulting on almost $1 billion in federal
student loans earmarked for the poor, leaving schools such as Yale University and the University of Pennsylvania with little choice except to sue their graduates.


You know, that's funny because I figured that, at Yale or Penn, your Pointless Studies degree wouldn't be completely worthless because you had that little Yale stamp on your forehead. It's the state school grads who shouldn't get anywhere near the humanities or social sciences.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2013 03:48 PM (T0NGe)

239
Breast cancer is, of course, terrible for those who get it but there are other diseases out there that are more relevant to football. Like...I dunno...prostate cancer?

The one that really pissed me off? The woman whose husband died of prostate cancer, and so to memorialize him, she started a drive to combat ... wait for it ... BREAST CANCER. WTF??

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2013 03:48 PM (IDSI7)

240 leaving schools such as Yale University and the University of Pennsylvania with little choice except to sue their graduates.

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Oh.. the poor, POOR schools... they just HATE doing this... how will they ever, evah, cope? *sob*

Posted by: KG at February 05, 2013 03:49 PM (p7BzH)

241
Hope that Masters degree in Critical African Pottery Studies was worth it.

Shouldn't that be Critical Review of African Pottery?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2013 03:49 PM (IDSI7)

242 241
Hope that Masters degree in Critical African Pottery Studies was worth it.

Shouldn't that be Critical Review of African Pottery?

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Probably "Chronic Use of Skunky Pot" is most accurate.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 05, 2013 03:50 PM (e0xKF)

243 DOJ thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2013 03:51 PM (piMMO)

244
in 5 years the NFL will become Flaglingeriefootball. With hulking 250 lb. guys. /shudder

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2013 03:51 PM (IDSI7)

245 244 Jay Guevera,

Pwesent!

//Bawney Fwank

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 03:55 PM (LRFds)

246 The devil made me do it!

Posted by: PJ at February 05, 2013 04:55 PM (ZWaLo)

247 I am so fucking tired of this.

It will not change until conservatives infiltrate the schools and the media. Yes, infiltrate, take over from the inside, band together, form cabals, and run a subrosa counterinsurgency in on the country's youth.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at February 05, 2013 05:41 PM (A6JfA)

248 Then Republicans should stick by their guns and let it happen.

Posted by: disa at February 05, 2013 07:45 PM (R+h7Q)






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