Top Headline Comments 2-5-13

Good morning, mushheads.

Jim Pethokoukis has an excellent column at NRO on "Creeping New Normalcy" that's worth a read.

NBC has obtained the putative "DOJ White Paper" providing legal justifications for targeted drone killings of Americans. The full paper is available at that link.

The Telegraph is snickering at VP Biden, "gaffe-maker extraordinaire," who recently confused Poland with Portugal. The Telegraph draws a line from Biden's sloppiness to the series of Obama presidency insults relating to Poland.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 06:49 AM



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1 Primero

Posted by: General Woundwort at February 05, 2013 06:52 AM (RrD4h)

2 Waiting for Vic...

Posted by: HH at February 05, 2013 06:52 AM (XXwdv)

3 So, what fresh hell shall today bring?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 05, 2013 06:52 AM (bTPOR)

4 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, February 05, 2013. On this day in 1937 FDR called for Congress to agree to increasing the number of Supreme Court justices, or as the friendly newspapers said, packing the court. That was one bridge too far even for the liberal Congress and they refused to do it. He got his wish though, after 4 terms in office the court was all FDR. It is still liberal to this day.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96)

5

DAY 91

1,369 to go (1,444 to Inauguration Day 2017)


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2013 06:53 AM (XkWWK)

6 Present

Posted by: VW Zao at February 05, 2013 06:53 AM (qyoyx)

7 Business and Labor sit down to talk about a deal to get cheap labor from Mexico and undercut workers while we have > 20% unemployment. I’m sure the Democrats will be all for it so labor bosses will support it and so will Republicans with Rubio leading the charge. Nobody gives a shit for the public anymore.

http://is.gd/uOseQo

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

8 McConnell raised the possibility of a Republican filibuster on Hagel yesterday. McShitty says no.

http://is.gd/fEXLOP

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

9 The world is coming to an end. Guinnsberg throws out Obamanite appeal for NRLB ruling.

http://is.gd/YMnk1B

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

10 AL authorities rescue kidnapped 5 year old and save taxpayers cost of lengthy trial for kidnapping and murder.

http://is.gd/bHOseX

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

11 Canada has eliminated their penny. We should too.

http://is.gd/wKLRgw

http://is.gd/bjnNzr

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:54 AM (53z96)

12 Argentina tries to staunch the runaway inflation caused by printing money. They freeze the price of food in grocery stores. Every socialist government tries this at one time or another, including ours. It never works and, at best, all it does is result in shortages and black marketing.

http://is.gd/CHoYvn

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:54 AM (53z96)

13 No lady, you can not flip off the judge. 30 days and no appeal.

http://is.gd/Oq17Mu

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:54 AM (53z96)

14 Downgrade our T-bills, and we’ll use taxpayer money to harass the shit out of you. If we had true justice the judge would throw this out with prejudice and the individual(s) responsible would be held accountable personally.

http://is.gd/Ohsl1Q

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:54 AM (53z96)

15
Yiddish Word of the Day:

"Gai kaken oifen yam!" - (gay-kock-en-oy-fen-yahm) Get lost (Lit: Go shit in the ocean!)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2013 06:54 AM (XkWWK)

16 Eric Cantor will give a speech today for the Republican leadership showing a kinder and gentler GOP. They will move further to the left to make the MFM say nice things about them. They wish to ensure they lose ALL the elections and not just the ones against Obama.

http://is.gd/NDWuJw

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

17 I generally don’t care that much for Mark Levin but this is a good one.

“Who the hell died and made Karl Rove queen for the day?

http://is.gd/yzKUAH

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

18 Ron Paul attempts to walk back his disgusting statement. Didn’t this worthless shit retire? Why is he still out there making a fool out of himself and ruining any chance that his son will be able to do anything?

http://is.gd/hkNWmZ

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

19 The first of potential primary candidates to take on Lindsay Graham has emerged.

http://is.gd/a4paPQ

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

20 Under a crony corruption agreement with FL tomato growers you will be paying twice as much for tomatoes because Obama has raised the tariffs on Mexican tomatoes. (by making Mexico charge more)

http://is.gd/ykUfRh

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

21 Guam practices government mandated voter discrimination. But since it is against whites it is OK.

http://is.gd/cdu2AV

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

22 Ramirez cartoon of the day.

http://is.gd/g8PlnL

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

23 The Daily Deal

http://is.gd/OtgpR7

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

24 The Daily Kitteh

“I keep thinking about Nov 7”

http://is.gd/7hHjqt



And that’s it for Tuesday, February 05, 2013.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:57 AM (53z96)

25 Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

Are you reading that correctly? She tossed an emergency request to stay a decision until the full Appeals court hears the case.

She is supporting Obama.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2013 06:57 AM (GsoHv)

26
Good Morning Horde,
I'm glad to see the Telegraph is reporting news on US events.

Posted by: CarolT at February 05, 2013 06:58 AM (z4WKX)

27 Creeping "normalcy" is just another way of saying Beck's Overton Window.



People thought FDR was a socialist, what would the people from the 30s think of Obama?

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:58 AM (53z96)

28
It never works and, at best, all it does is result in shortages and black marketing.


"Pssst, hey buddy. I got some nice primo sugar here, best you'll find anywhere, still in the original wrapper. Just look at this shit, man. Those are big crystals, straight from the factory.

Oh, and you didn't get it from me. "

Mornin', window lickers. Do Not Ask why I'm up at this hour, 'cause I don't know.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 06:59 AM (+z4pE)

29 4 Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:52 AM (53z96)

Interesting SCOTUS fun fact; JFK appointed Byron White to the court in April of 1962. 20 years earlier, while in the Navy, White wrote the intelligence report for the Navy that cleared JFK of the charge of dereliction of duty. Yes, dear reader, he was in line for a court martial, but instead Papa Joe got him cleared and legend was born.

And when White retired, he was succeeded by Ruth Baader-Meinhoff.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2013 07:01 AM (XkWWK)

30 First?

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 07:01 AM (Hsgnv)

31 NICS/Psychiatry Division Update:
"You even want a gun?!? That's a disqualifying defect under sect. 13, Ch. 42A."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/bjh88dv

Posted by: Thorvald at February 05, 2013 07:01 AM (1V6Pv)

32 wrong

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 07:02 AM (Hsgnv)

33 "The Telegraph is snickering at VP Biden"

To be fair, who isn't?

Posted by: pep at February 05, 2013 07:02 AM (YXmuI)

34 Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 06:58 AM (53z96)

Interesting question!

The Left has learned to hide its intent with new language that makes its policies seem less socialist and more "fair."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2013 07:02 AM (GsoHv)

35 Ron Paul's remarks were a way to endear him to SCOAMF as a replacement nominee in case Hagel goes down in flames.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2013 07:02 AM (XkWWK)

36 And it does not, my good friends, get any better than this:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/aco7myv
Lord really nails Rove. Really. Nails.

Posted by: Thorvald at February 05, 2013 07:02 AM (1V6Pv)

37 @35!
Rep. Paul, late of the Parliament of Whores.

Posted by: Thorvald at February 05, 2013 07:03 AM (1V6Pv)

38 29 -

Oh, that is interesting! Nothing surprises me anymore, but some things do still raise an eyebrow.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2013 07:05 AM (BeSEI)

39 @31
The term "Catch-22" is misused a lot, but in this case, it's appropriate.

Posted by: pep at February 05, 2013 07:05 AM (YXmuI)

40 Hello, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. As always, Gabe and Vic, thanks for the morning briefing.

The Telegraph is snickering at VP Biden, "gaffe-maker extraordinaire," who recently confused Poland with Portugal. The Telegraph draws a line from Biden's sloppiness to the series of Obama presidency insults relating to Poland. And I’ll have to read the comments just to see how many idiots have no response other than “BOOOSH! Nucular! My Pet Goat!”


Well, let’s forget politics for a moment and go Hollywood:


One of the reasons many people believed talking movies would never catch on was that silence was truly universal. For example, D.W. Griffith's Broken Blossoms, while starring the American Lillian Gish and Englishman Donald Crisp, could be shown in any country in the world with the only alteration needed being translated title cards.


But talkies came. And in the early days of sound before dubbing, studios would sometimes film foreign-language versions of their American fare for the overseas markets (usually in German, French or Spanish), using the same sets and costumes, often shooting the foreign film during the night, after the American cast and crew had gone to bed. So when it came to Universal's Dracula, the studio shot a Spanish-language version on the same sets at the same time, Bela Lugosi wearing the cape by day and Carlos Villarias by night.

The Spanish Dracula was, in the words of writer David J. Skal, "an almost shot-by-shot critique of the Browning version."* It was richer, more luxurious and more sensual in every way, especially so when it came to Dracula's wives, all three of whom were seen with deep cleavages.

But the wives weren't the only sexy ones. Playing the ingenue Mina Murray (but here renamed Eva) was the luscious Mexican actress Lupita Tovar (who, at the venerable age of 102, is one of the last surviving actors of the silent era). Like the wives, Tovar also shows off mucho cleavage, prancing through the film in very low-cut lingerie. She once laughed that after her grandson first saw the film he turned to her and said, "now I know why Grandpapa married you!"


And that’s it for me. Hope you all have a wonderful day. And if you like these stories, consider my own story: The Director’s Cut: A Theda Bara Mystery, now available on Kindle, at the Amazon or Barnes and Noble websites or by special order through any good bookstore.

*the Spanish version has had its own DVD release; it is also included as an extra in the Universal 75th Anniversary Edition of Dracula

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 05, 2013 07:06 AM (zF6Iw)

41 Are you reading that correctly? She tossed an emergency request to stay a decision until the full Appeals court hears the case.

She is supporting Obama.




Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2013 06:57 AM (GsoHv)

You're right. The first part of this is clear as mud. Fox needs to get a new editor. Evidently despite the fact that the appeals court shot down the ruling, the companies affected by that ruling don't get a rehearing.

What I would do if I ran one of those companies is ignore the court order since an appeals court has killed it anyway.

I don't see why this company filed an appeal anyway, it doesn't make any sense, and why did it go all the way to SCOTUS?

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:06 AM (53z96)

42 I enjoyed Levin's takedown of Her Majesty Karl Rove.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:06 AM (+z4pE)

43 won't even be a knock at the door......

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at February 05, 2013 07:08 AM (XvrTA)

44 Eric Cantor will give a speech today for the Republican leadership showing a kinder and gentler GOP.

Ah, yes, Eric "really, government's not all bad! Honest!" Cantor. Fuck him, the statist, boot-licking POS. And fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 05, 2013 07:09 AM (zF6Iw)

45 Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:06 AM (53z96)

Yeah, it was written pretty badly, but that is more and more common.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2013 07:11 AM (GsoHv)

46 42 I enjoyed Levin's takedown of Her Majesty Karl Rove.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:06 AM (+z4pE)

Just heard the rewind. Capped it off with an emphatic "screw you!" I'm sure he was channeling Breitbart's FUCK YOU!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2013 07:12 AM (XkWWK)

47 John Nance Garner, FDR's first VP, charachterized the Vice Presidency as "not worth a bucket of warm piss". For Slow Joe this represents not so much a description as an aspiration. I would happily trade the entire Administration for a dog, then shoot the dog. Then serve it with fava beans and a nice Chianti *sup* *sup* *sup*

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 07:15 AM (Hsgnv)

48 gay-kock

Sounds great! Be right there.

Posted by: B. Obama, Esq. at February 05, 2013 07:16 AM (OevbG)

49 Regarding the stick-lady justice who has been dead for the last 20 years why do we even need to appoint "lawyers" as justices? Go ahead and appoint a retired politician, its the same thing.


One of the first things I would do if I was rewriting the Constitution is fix the court. Since it is impossible to make it non-political I would have one justice appointed from every State. I would not leave them appointed for life,I would have mandatory retirement at 70. I would also make them subject to a recall vote by >50% election in the State that appointed them.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:17 AM (53z96)

50 John Nance Garner, FDR's first VP, charachterized the Vice Presidency as "not worth a bucket of warm piss".



I thought he said "warm spit"

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:18 AM (53z96)

51
Just heard the rewind. Capped it off with an emphatic "screw you!" I'm sure he was channeling Breitbart's FUCK YOU!

Evidently, Rove doesn't think the electorate should be involved in the electoral process except with his approval. Sorta reminds me of Scott Brown's remark about "Ted Kennedy's seat" to which he responded, "That's the people's seat."

So much promise unrealized...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:18 AM (+z4pE)

52 beware I live

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:19 AM (LRFds)

53 Dear Peace Protesters,

So now that Obama's DOJ is justifying drone strikes against American citizens, I was wondering how it feels knowing that you voted for him?

Posted by: NR Pax at February 05, 2013 07:19 AM (1ml8s)

54 Here is a perfect example of why the Dems are successful, and the Republicans fail.

Too many Dems were disenfranchised in the last election!

http://tinyurl.com/a34bnh7

[Warning....link to NY Times]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2013 07:20 AM (GsoHv)

55 readin' the comments here, boss

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 05, 2013 07:21 AM (8sCoq)

56
I would also make them subject to a recall vote by >50% election in the State that appointed them

Someone (whose name escapes me) proposed a law that as SC decision could be reversed by the states, similar to the way an amendment would work, with a required number of states voting to override it.

A more direct route would be to just say, "Fuck you." I still maintain that if a California governor wanted to be president, he'd go to the Central Valley area with a few National Guardspeople and turn on the water pumps, then dare anybody in Washington to do something about it.

But that's just me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:23 AM (+z4pE)

57 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2013 07:20 AM (GsoHv)


All that is is the same old call for more voter fraud by the PR wing of the Commiedem Party. Why even link it since we know it is all BS lies?

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:23 AM (53z96)

58 Someone (whose name escapes me) proposed a law that as SC decision could
be reversed by the states, similar to the way an amendment would work,
with a required number of states voting to override it.



We already have that. Its called an Art V convention.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:24 AM (53z96)

59 Interesting thought from ESPN2 Mike n Mike:

Probably no halftime show at next Super Bowl, due to it being outside in the middle of winter

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 05, 2013 07:25 AM (8sCoq)

60 Two thirds of French people agree with their labor minister's statement that the country is a "totally bankrupt state".


http://tinyurl.com/bdmg643

Hey you fucking French idiots who just voted a Communist into office...You can ignore reality but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at February 05, 2013 07:25 AM (HUw8q)

61 The Paulian Turds are in ecstatic vibration over their guru's Alzheimer-enhanced tweeting.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 07:26 AM (MMC8r)

62 The two party system is a good idea. We should try it again, instead of the current Evil wing of the Out Of Control Spending Big Government Party and the Stupid wing of the Out Of Control Spending Big Government Party.

Bipartisan measures are thus guaranteed to be both stupid and evil.

What did George Waahington do to us so that we've made his name into a byword for a hive of scum and villany?

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 07:26 AM (Hsgnv)

63 PPPP here is Tovar in her Dracula costume. By today's standards this would be pretty tame.


http://garylucas.com/www/dracula/dracula4.jpg

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:28 AM (53z96)

64
We already have that. Its called an Art V convention.

I thought that was only for Constitutional amendments, not for SC decisions. That's why that idea got my attention.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:28 AM (+z4pE)

65 53 NR Pax,

Ba-Rahn-Ko has electrolytes, electrolytes the peaceniks crave.....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:28 AM (LRFds)

66 - "Jim Pethokoukis has an excellent column at NRO on 'Creeping New Normalcy' that's worth a read."

There's a gruesome political irony inherent in that article.

Outside of the coffee klatches and sewing circles of the chattering classes elections have severe consequences. If you allow liberal Democrats to have political power, guess what, they're going to enact laws and pursue policies that wreck the economy, which in turn will result in the dumbed down general public taking the path of least resistance and accepting less for themselves. Then it becomes a vicious cycle: dependency and despair = government assistance = dependency and despair, etc.

At a certain level it's nice that Pethokoukis is clueing in to what's obvious, and what for years and even decades has been obvious, but it's a case of many days late and numerous dollars short.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at February 05, 2013 07:29 AM (r2PLg)

67 Good morning Morons! I hope all is as well as it can be in your world.

I was watching the Philadelphia episode of Anthony Bourdain's (yes I know he's an insufferable lefty prick blah blah blah but I like his food shows) The Layover last night and he had a quote that summed up my beloved hometown perfectly.

"Philadelphia. I've never managed to do a show here... People would say to me, 'Why don't you come and do a show in Philly?' Which quickly became, 'Hey why haven't you done a show in Philly yet?' Which just as quickly became, 'Fuck you, we don't need you anyway!'"

God I do miss home on occasion...

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 05, 2013 07:29 AM (ummNV)

68 What did George Waahington do to us so that we've made his name into a byword for a hive of scum and villany?

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 07:26 AM (Hsgnv)

Washington and the other founders were against political Parties, or so they said. But that didn't stop them from quickly forming up The Federalists who were all for their version of big government.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:30 AM (53z96)

69 59 Jones in CO,

ah yes the "here NY/NJ reality was unkind to you so have a super bowl!" super bowl...

getting easier not watching these things all the time.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:30 AM (LRFds)

70 I thought that was only for Constitutional amendments, not for SC decisions. That's why that idea got my attention.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:28 AM (+z4pE)

It is basically doing the same thing.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:30 AM (53z96)

71
Dang,
I am responding to ROVE via the ghosts of 1776.....

FUCK YOU BITCH.......and your house boy McCain too.....

Posted by: Richard at February 05, 2013 07:30 AM (kCCvE)

72 Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:23 AM (53z96)

You are missing the point.

The Dems never let up. They cheated in 2012, and instead of resting on their laurels, they are going for more fraud by claiming that they were disenfranchised.

It's brazen, and it sets the tone of the debate about voting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2013 07:31 AM (GsoHv)

73 355 Colorado Technical Jobs Fair Alert!!

For any morons in CO who are looking for a tech job, my company is looking for the following:

- .NET Developers
- Technology Project Mgrs
- Database Analysts
- Release Mgrs
- "Several other types of technology professionals"

The CO positions are for Westminster, CO, wherever in the hell that is.

They are having a JOB FAIR on FEB 7 from 3 - 7 PM to fill at least 30 tech positions... Get your resumes ready, kids! Time's a wastin'!

"In addition to openings in Westminster, [the company] is also hiring for similar positions at other company locations. For all available [company] positions, direct them to the Careers section on our website."

If anyone is interested, email is in my nic. I'm currently too busy to spend as much time with the horde as I would like, but my thoughts are with you. I know there are several unemployed/underemployed tech folks who are members of the horde. If some morons or cobs could post this for the dayriders, that would help spread the word.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque, tablet edition at February 05, 2013 07:31 AM (eQnzo)

74 66 Tsar Nicholas II,

James P and I went back and forth on Twitter he was pushing the "new normal" before the convention and was of the opinion then that Obama would get a pass on the economy.

He's pretty disgusted at the blatant hypocrisy of the news media with regards to "blame game."

You can see him on CNBC from time to time.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:33 AM (LRFds)

75 Do not get me started on Karl Rove. If you ask me, his advice was the source of all of the bad stuff that happened late in Bush's term.

I do not think he is smart about politics at all. I think he latched onto Bush who was a natural politician, and convinced him that Rove's number-crunching was the source of Bush's victory.

And I think he left the administration early so that he could get his book published before all of the others. And also, he was setting himself up as a poitical consultant. Knowing that his number-crunching wasn't really the reason Bush won, he went for an easy win for his first candidate, the GOP congressman who was Dad Bush's friend and who was supposed to be a shoe-in for the GOP Senate nomination and seat. Only Christine O'Donnell won in the primary.

Which is why we got that spectacle of him trashing the GOP candidate, on air, and which went on for THREE DAYS before he finally shut up. He was enraged because some dim bulb woman (and she really isn't very smart) had demonstrated that he is a complete failure as a political consultant.

Further, when I read his book I was ENRAGED that he was the one who repeatedly counseled Bush not to defend himself from the charge of lying. This has to be the biggest blunder of Bush's presidency. Bush has to take blame for not overruling it, but Rove also had a responsibility to actually look at avrage Americans and what they thought through polls and focus groups, which he apparently either did not do or did so incompetently.

So I was glad to see Mr. Lord go after him. Political consultants are one of the biggest problems the GOP has.




Posted by: Miss Marple at February 05, 2013 07:34 AM (GoIUi)

76 50 John Nance Garner, FDR's first VP, charachterized the Vice Presidency as "not worth a bucket of warm piss".



I thought he said "warm spit"
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:18 AM (53z96)


According to Wiki ( I know, I know) spit was a euphamisim. Seeing as how he was from Texas that seems reaaonable.

Personally, Obama and Co. are inferior in value to a bucket of lukewarm pus, but that's just me.

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 07:35 AM (Hsgnv)

77 Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:23 AM (53z96)

C'mon, Vic. It is obvious that excessive waiting times at teh polls make it that much harder to vote multiple times. This needs to be fixed and quickly before the 2014 elections.


In fact, I am betting that Obama and co are ready to offer an 2014 Obamavotes app for the Obamaphones. All you have to do is accept an Obamaphone, and the phone automatically votes the straight Dem ticket for you in all future elections. You don't even have to turn off the TV and go to the polls. If in addition, you show up and vote (again) in person, you get an extra EBT credit. Democracy is so wonderful!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 07:36 AM (Cnqmv)

78 Morning Horde, I'm not feeling awesome and the eldest daughter got reeeeaaallllly sick in the night last night. So I'm at home today. Which means I get to bother, I mean play, with you Rons and Ettes all day.


Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 07:38 AM (GEICT)

79 I think the GOP needs to go isolationist maybe. It's obvious the peaceniks were not primarily motivated by Chimpy's "illegal wars" but the democrat/media/academic complex has outlawed the GOP having a foreign policy. It's gonna take about 8 years to educate the voters towards how stupid the donks are on economics.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:40 AM (LRFds)

80 Good of you to post that Mr Redneck.
Now, if only I lived in Colorado and knew computer tech stuff instead of lab tech stuff.
If wishes was fishes, we'd all be castin' nets

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 07:41 AM (SYS+p)

81 40 -

One of the things most people would acknowledge, it's not possible to watch Lugosi as Dracula today, and be frightened by it. At the time, I believe, it was considered terrifying, but it's been copied and mimicked so much that our brains can't conceive of what it would have been like to see it for the first time.

I have the 75th anniversary copy, with the Spanish version, but have only seen bits and pieces of it. One of these days I need to watch it. It's on the list, but it's a pretty long list.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2013 07:41 AM (BeSEI)

82 I do not think he is smart about politics at all. I think he latched onto Bush who was a natural politician, and convinced him that Rove's number-crunching was the source of Bush's victory.
----
Wasn't he also at the right place at the right time when Lee Atwater died?

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at February 05, 2013 07:41 AM (HUw8q)

83 Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 07:36 AM (Cnqmv)


My point is that in every election the commies attempt to reduce the ability to detect and prevent voter fraud and they fight every time to kill laws that require voter ID for the same reason.


They have been doing this for decades. It isn't anything new. If we had an opposition party they would be passing laws in every State that said when a State law challenging voter requirements was challenged, the challenger MUST show proof of actual discrimination before any court can rule for an injunction to halt the law.

And tell the Dem DOJ to piss up a rope and ignore it.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:42 AM (53z96)

84
Further, when I read his book I was ENRAGED that he was the one who repeatedly counseled Bush not to defend himself from the charge of lying. This has to be the biggest blunder of Bush's presidency. Bush has to take blame for not overruling it, but Rove also had a responsibility to actually look at avrage Americans and what they thought through polls and focus groups, which he apparently either did not do or did so incompetently.

That decision not to set the record straight has befuddled me for years. And for some unexplained reason, continues today. I still can't understand why no one on our side stands up to the Leftards and their psychophants in the media.

The truth is out there, all you have to do is present it. Don't just say it in that fuzzy way, have some hard numbers to back it up. It's not rocket surgery. Folks will respond to the truth.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:42 AM (+z4pE)

85 It's brazen, and it sets the tone of the debate about voting.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2013 07:31 AM (GsoHv)


The progs always seem to get out in front and frame the debate. Meanwhile our "leaders", based on the advice of douches like Rove, are busy apologizing for even casting aspersions about voter fraud, much less screaming at the top of their lungs about how rampant voter fraud really is!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 07:42 AM (Cnqmv)

86 Republicans haven't had a competent RNC since Atwater died,.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 07:43 AM (53z96)

87
OBAMA IS A SCFOAMF

X2

Posted by: Richard at February 05, 2013 07:45 AM (kCCvE)

88 So I'm reading the article about TFG's authorization of targeted killing of Americans. It sounds like it's limited to "AQ or affiliated orgs" at the moment, but how long before it's expanded to "terrorist elements"? And we all know that TFG and his admin view "right wing extremists" as a threat.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 07:45 AM (GEICT)

89 #82 Yes. He worked under Atwater (without contributing much) and that is how he came to know Bush 43. When Atwater died, and then when Bush 41 lost, Rove went back to Texas and ran some little political direct mail company. Then he used his connection with Atwater and Dad Bush to latch onto Bush 43.

You know what struck me about his book? It was all about him. Frankly, it was one of the most boring political books I have ever read. And the Florida recount? Hardly got a mention!

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 05, 2013 07:46 AM (GoIUi)

90 86 -

The position is a lot like managers in major league baseball. Yeah, they fill out the lineup card, make in-game decisions, including whether or not to steal a base, put on the squeeze play, etc, but ultimately it's up to the players, and depending on who you have on your roster you're either going to look like a genius or a dunce.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2013 07:47 AM (BeSEI)

91 88 BC1981,

Yup, Uncle Jan blurted that out quick. Uncle Jan also tossed its hat in the ring for 2016. Amerika Amerika uber alles.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 07:48 AM (LRFds)

92 42 I enjoyed Levin's takedown of Her Majesty Karl Rove.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:06 AM (+z4pE)



Just heard the rewind. Capped it off with an emphatic "screw you!" I'm sure he was channeling Breitbart's FUCK YOU!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2013 07:12 AM (XkWWK)


I'm listening to it now. "Barnacles on the hull of the Titanic".

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2013 07:48 AM (cdK9k)

93 > I still can't understand why no one on our side stands up to the Leftards and their psychophants in the media.


I like that word- 'psychophant'

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 05, 2013 07:48 AM (8sCoq)

94 Wasn't he also at the right place at the right time when Lee Atwater died?

This is why I tend to think there is no God ifAtwaterdies andCarvillestinks up the joint for the next 20 years. I guaran-damn-tee you the dog-eating Kenyan Kocksucker would be hiding in the Atgeld projects clutching Reggie's crusty, feculent BVD's to his chest and crying like the little bitch he is if Atwater were still alive.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 05, 2013 07:49 AM (zF6Iw)

95 Remember the other day when Google was blocking certain sites?

This story says the reason may be less nefarious than we first thought:

http://is.gd/oFhDl0

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 05, 2013 07:49 AM (8sCoq)

96
Carl Rove is a..........(post your stuttering cluster fuck answer here)....

Posted by: Richard at February 05, 2013 07:51 AM (kCCvE)

97 "...why no one on our side..."

On our side. You mean like Boehner, McConnell, McCain et al, etc, ad nauseum

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 07:52 AM (epFwI)

98 36
And it does not, my good friends, get any better than this:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/aco7myv

Lord really nails Rove. Really. Nails.


Thanks very much for that link, Thorvald. That piece is really excellent. I might be late for work, but it was worth it.

Posted by: Gem at February 05, 2013 07:52 AM (zw+pb)

99 the people you think are on our side are not on our side

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at February 05, 2013 07:54 AM (GVxQo)

100 Good morning, mushheads.


I love it when you talk directly to me.

Posted by: Truman North, by golly at February 05, 2013 07:54 AM (I2LwF)

101 "NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office can accurately predict the asteroid's path with the observations obtained, and it is therefore known that there is no chance that the asteroid might be on a collision course with Earth," officials at the space agency's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., wrote in a statement Friday (Feb. 1).



Posted by: Jones in CO at February 05, 2013 07:56 AM (8sCoq)

102 Heh, phoenixgirl, great minds...

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 07:57 AM (epFwI)

103 I do not understand the enthusiasm some folks have for an Art. V convention. Whenever I want to scare myself awake for the night I just have to imagine the nightmarish Coven of sociologists, economists, PoliSci professors, CommiMedia whores, and all around weapons grade douchbags who would make up such a body. The only hope would to enforce a rule that any faculty member, media employee, or denizen of New York or California be shot as soon as they set foot in the convention hall. And even then we would be safer if we took off and nuked it from orbit, just to be sure.

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 07:57 AM (Hsgnv)

104 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 05, 2013 07:49 AM (zF6Iw)


C'mon, MPPPP--stop holding back, it is bad for the heart!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 07:57 AM (Cnqmv)

105
On our side. You mean like Boehner, McConnell, McCain et al, etc, ad nauseum

Well, I should say "supposed to be on our side." They would be if they'd just speak up a bit.

Another befuddlement to me: why is there seemingly no message coordination for conservatives like the Leftards have? Sure, we have many pundits and bloggers who all say essentially the same thing, but are disparate voices. As has been noted here many times, the Left always speaks of their agenda, coating it in a rich sauce of lies, distorting the truth in the process and hiding their ultimate goals of destruction of our way of life.

The RNC cannot speak of freedom, of Founding Principles, of the wonders of capitalism. I don't know why...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:59 AM (+z4pE)

106 Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 07:57 AM (Hsgnv)



Yes, thinking about a media dominated Art V Convention scares me too; however, it would either offer some real solutions or get us to the burn stage faster, and either of those seem attractive now!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:01 AM (Cnqmv)

107 The RNC cannot speak of freedom, of Founding Principles, of the wonders of capitalism. I don't know why...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 07:59 AM (+z4pE)

Where are men of principle and honor these days? They're not in government that is for sure.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:03 AM (Cnqmv)

108 "denizens of New York or California be shot..."

You know, if you hadn't thrown in that nuke the place part I would have to have said you left way too many out.

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 08:04 AM (eVZCn)

109 I woke feeling a little flat this morning. Maybe a good breakfast will help. Pancakes should do the trick.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at February 05, 2013 08:04 AM (mjR67)

110 Whenever I want to scare myself awake for the night I just have to
imagine the nightmarish Coven of sociologists, economists, PoliSci
professors, CommiMedia whores, and all around weapons grade douchbags
who would make up such a body.


We'll end up with a "right" to free third-trimester abortions and AZT enshrined, but no speech, self-defense, religion, jury trials, etc.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:05 AM (hO8IJ)

111 Does Ron Paul get angry when our soldier-killing machines don't die? Doesn't that upset his reap-sow flowchart?



Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 08:06 AM (MMC8r)

112 109 I woke feeling a little flat this morning. Maybe a good breakfast will help. Pancakes should do the trick.
Posted by: Rachel Corrie at February 05, 2013 08:04 AM (mjR67)
-----
Take a walk in the park, that always does the trick for me

Posted by: Vince Foster at February 05, 2013 08:07 AM (HUw8q)

113 You folks obviously do not know how an Art V convention would work. Go back and look at the original convention.


Each State gets one vote. It is not manned by anyone but delegates selected by the State legislature. There is no press. In fact, the deliberations were kept secret to the point of keeping all the windows in the building closed even though the heat in Philadelphia was stifling at the time.


All the State would have to do is require the same rules applied to the new one. And the most impportant thing of all is that nobody in Washington would have any say-so on it at all.


And PS, there are ore red States than Blue.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:07 AM (53z96)

114 I think you're deluding yourself Vic. When was the last time this gov't did anything the way it was designed or intended?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 08:09 AM (GEICT)

115 Anyway, an Art V is better than the alternative which is coming if we don't have it. And that is collapse with blood running in the streets.


That will be followed by a "leader for life".

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:09 AM (53z96)

116
I think you're deluding yourself Vic. When was the last time this gov't did anything the way it was designed or intended?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 08:09 AM (GEICT)


This will NOT be the damn government.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:10 AM (53z96)

117
Where are men of principle and honor these days? They're not in government that is for sure.

The current political atmosphere isn't conducive to anyone of principle running, the MFM Machine would destroy them, unless whoever it was had cojones roughly the size of the moon. From a psychological standpoint, politics always attracts the wrong people because, power.

I'd like to think I could do it, but then again, I'd also like to think I could last longer than about 30 seconds with Kate Upton.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 08:10 AM (+z4pE)

118 Each State gets one vote. It is not manned by anyone but delegates selected by the State legislature.

You have no idea how completely fucking stupid state legislators are, do you?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:10 AM (hO8IJ)

119 "I don't know why..."
How about because almost to a man/woman, they are a bunch of corrupt statists who all have dirt on each other and so never push any real investigations or rock the boat in fear of losing their ability to dip into the till.

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 08:11 AM (Khu8a)

120 We'll end up with a "right" to free third-trimester abortions and AZT enshrined, but no speech, self-defense, religion, jury trials, etc.

And soma, lots and lots of soma. Which will probably be federally endorsed, federally taxed, federally distributed. Probably THC.

Posted by: Aldous Huxley at February 05, 2013 08:11 AM (feFL6)

121 We are all 3rd World Gay Socialists now! and Obama thinks we should be thanking him

Posted by: Case at February 05, 2013 08:11 AM (gyQY/)

122 Each State gets one vote. It is not manned by anyone but delegates selected by the State legislature.

This will NOT be the damn government.


Your first statement contradicts your second statement.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:12 AM (hO8IJ)

123 Per Levin: 10 of the 12 Senate candidates that Roves group backed lost in November as did 4 of the 10 House candidates. This from The Architect that scrounges money from the swells? Yet all we talk about here is how bad Christine O'Donnell and Akin are and how they cost us control of the Senate. Fuck that shit.


Rove's garbage was nothing but a sales pitch for that fat fuck to cover his ass against his track record.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2013 08:13 AM (cdK9k)

124 This will NOT be the damn government.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:10 AM (53z96)



Yes it is. It's just state govt's. And if you think that the state legislatures will do a perfect job of selecting people who will be conservative in nature...well....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 08:13 AM (GEICT)

125 You have no idea how completely fucking stupid state legislators are, do you?


Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:10 AM (hO8IJ)

We do OK for the most part here. And since that is local you only have local citizens to blame. But still, each State only gets one damn vote. So the blue States can elect all the dumb shit commies they want, the outcome will still be decided by the red States,.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:16 AM (53z96)

126 Your first statement contradicts your second statement.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:12 AM (hO8IJ)


OK, the damn FEDERAL government would have no part in it.

Or we can whine and cry about the political parties, the MFM, and the Washington insiders and do NOTHING until Monty DOOM hits.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:18 AM (53z96)

127 Teej please. Ad nauseam. Strong feelings are no excuse for bad Latin.

Posted by: comatus at February 05, 2013 08:19 AM (qaVK+)

128 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (8y9MW)

129 Where are men of principle and honor these days? They're not in government that is for sure.

The current political atmosphere isn't conducive to anyone of principle running, the MFM Machine would destroy them, unless whoever it was had cojones roughly the size of the moon. From a psychological standpoint, politics always attracts the wrong people because, power.



Say what you will about Mitt Romney's politics, and I have, but he is as decent a man and as squeaky clean of a candidate as has ever run. Look what was said about him. Look at the attack on his sons and his wife. I do not understand how he managed not to punch people in the face.


I'll be honest, I do not comprehend why anyone would be willing to place their families in the path of destruction that will take place should said person have the temerity to have an R after his/her name and run for office. If people said the things about mine that are said about the families of Republicans, I would be in jail for my response.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (VtjlW)

130 So the blue States can elect all the dumb shit commies they want, the outcome will still be decided by the red States.

Again, I reiterate, you have no idea how fucking stupid state legislators are, do you?

Do you really want your liberty contingent on a bunch of assholes who will put you in prison for a decade for possessing cold medicine while you drive across their state (Mississippi)?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (hO8IJ)

131 So, OSP, did I catapult you into overnight stardom? No?

I'll try harder next time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (8y9MW)

132 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 08:13 AM (GEICT)

From what I have seen, state legislatures are essentially training grounds for pols that want to learn how to get to larger scale political positions where the graft is better. If you can't steal from the people at the state level, you aren't ready to steal from the people at the national level

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (Cnqmv)

133 Geez, I'd forgotten what delusional fools so many of the Ronulans are. They're as psychotically worshipful of Dr. Kookoobananas as the Obamabots are of TFG.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (MMC8r)

134 This is worth a thought. From the Wiki review of "Brave New World"...

Recreational sex is an integral part of society. According to the World State, sex is a social activity, rather than a means of reproduction (sex is encouraged from early childhood). The few women who can reproduce are conditioned to use birth control, even wearing a "Malthusian belt" (which resembles a cartridge belt and holds "the regulation supply of contraceptives") as a popular fashion accessory. The maxim "everyone belongs to everyone else" is repeated often, and the idea of a "family" is considered pornographic; sexual competition and emotional, romantic relationships are rendered obsolete because they are no longer needed. Marriage, natural birth, parenthood, and pregnancy are considered too obscene to be mentioned in casual conversation. Thus, society has developed a new idea of reproductive comprehension.

Why am I suddenly picturing Sundra Flake smiling in approval?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at February 05, 2013 08:22 AM (feFL6)

135 But still, each State only gets one damn vote. So the blue States can elect all the dumb shit commies they want, the outcome will still be decided by the red States,.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:16 AM (53z96)



There are, what, around 30 state legislatures controlled by Repubs? You really think the stupid party can't screw up 6 or 7 selections?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 08:22 AM (GEICT)

136 How about that Indiana state legislature, who won't even take up the issue of letting me buy a six-pack to drink at home on Sunday afternoon instead of drinking the six-pack then driving home?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:22 AM (hO8IJ)

137 Nobody gives a shit for the public anymore.

Not to be mean, but "welcome to the party, pal." They haven't cared for the public since at least the late 80s.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:22 AM (8y9MW)

138 I don't have any good examples for Missourah, but I'm sure they've done something stupid and anti-liberty lately, because they all have.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:22 AM (hO8IJ)

139 @125 You have no idea how completely fucking stupid state legislators are, do you?

As opposed to Federal legislators? I would take state any day.

Posted by: Case at February 05, 2013 08:23 AM (gyQY/)

140 As opposed to Federal legislators? I would take state any day.

The New York Assembly outlawed FIRE, for fuck's sake.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:25 AM (hO8IJ)

141 Does anyone think that it is even possible, let alone likely, to assemble a group of people who would be fit to lick the dogshit off the boots of the Founders? In a nation of more than 300 million they might exist, but they're awfully well hidden.

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 08:25 AM (Hsgnv)

142 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (VtjlW)


One of my nightmares is what this last election would have looked like if we had not had about the most squeaky clean candidate imaginable. If they had been a speck of dust on his (Mitt's) record, the media castigation would have been relentless. As it was he was smeared, slimed, and generally lied about on a daily basis for months!


Shakespeare had it wrong about lawyers. The first thing we should do is take care of the media (but in a kinder gentler way of course)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:25 AM (Cnqmv)

143 >The first of potential primary candidates to take on Lindsay Graham has emerged.

And I have a shiny new c-note sitting in an envelope with a stamp already on it. All I need is the name and address to send my donation to.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 05, 2013 08:25 AM (khf9A)

144 I think I'm going to send money to Lee Bright in SC. (She's mulling a challenge to Ms. Lindsey.) Fuck these pricks.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 05, 2013 08:25 AM (M0O7A)

145 Great minds!
Posted by: DanInMN at February 05, 2013 08:25

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 05, 2013 08:27 AM (M0O7A)

146 Do you really want your liberty contingent on a
bunch of assholes who will put you in prison for a decade for possessing
cold medicine while you drive across their state (Mississippi)?


Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (hO8IJ)

Nothing to lose since we already have that.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:27 AM (53z96)

147 Geez, I'd forgotten what delusional fools so many of
the Ronulans are. They're as psychotically worshipful of Dr.
Kookoobananas as the Obamabots are of TFG.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 08:20 AM (MMC8r)


One thing Palin got wrong in the last election was trying to bring those fucking loons into the fold., A lot of good that did as the stupid fucks gave up their final night seats to Code Stink. What is really needed is a cleansing Jonestown 2.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2013 08:27 AM (cdK9k)

148 Fuck him! Now, you listen to me! I want voting reopened right now. Get
those pollsters back in here! Turn those machines back on!


Turn those machines back on!

Posted by: Mortimer Rove at February 05, 2013 08:27 AM (UzPAd)

149
Say what you will about Mitt Romney's politics, and I have, but he is as decent a man and as squeaky clean of a candidate as has ever run. Look what was said about him. Look at the attack on his sons and his wife. I do not understand how he managed not to punch people in the face.

That wasn't meant as a dig against Mitt. I agree, he was a good man who did a lot of good for a lot of people. And I can understand why a lot of those stories didn't get out: it may have appeared as though he was tooting his own horn, even indirectly.

Still, I'd like to see a candidate focus more on what the Left is doing wrong (pretty much everything), along with First Principles. Every time somebody in the MFM manages to dig up a little dirt, throw some dirt back at them and ask why they haven't covered (insert any uncovered scandal here). Keep them off balance, interrupt them, make them go on defense for a while. It would be entertaining.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 08:28 AM (+z4pE)

150 Shakespeare had it wrong about lawyers. The first thing we should do is take care of the media (but in a kinder gentler way of course)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 08:25 AM (Cnqmv)

'Judas Chair' until they learn to tell the truth?

It's made from natural wood so the ELF folks would be happy.

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 08:29 AM (fWAjv)

151 Vic, your Daily Kitteh link isn't working...

Posted by: CanaDave at February 05, 2013 08:29 AM (aWb7O)

152 #123 Hey, Captain Hate, that proves my point and thanks for posting the stats on Roves lack of success.

He is a real piece of work. Honest to God, I think Bush could have won with a larger majority WITHOUT Rove. And it is quite possible that some of the issues or compromises we got saddled with wouldn't have happened.

One of Bush's nicest character traits was his humility. He didn't see himself as particularly smart or skillful. If you remember, he never bragged about how smart he was, or how athletic, far from it. I think he never understood the charisma he had with the average voter. So when he won that race for governor in Texas, he thought it was because of Rove's genius. And he carried Rove, like an albatross around his neck, all the way to the White House.

I hope he invested his earnings well, because I am not thinking he is going to get many clients in the future.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 05, 2013 08:30 AM (GoIUi)

153 Or 'The Pear' in their mouth.

See, I'm flexible here.

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 08:30 AM (fWAjv)

154 Listening to Karma and Tauhid by the incomparable Pharoah Sanders.

Posted by: Buddha at February 05, 2013 08:30 AM (8NlUk)

155 What, you couldn't have used ad nauseum and turned it into a friendly teaching moment?

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 08:31 AM (Gr8tW)

156 Well, I guess it depends on where you live. I trust my state government more than the Federal government. We would never be in this mess if the Federal government would have butt-out of state business in the first place. The Feds have always wanted to control everything and everybody. Well, they just about have now.

Posted by: Case at February 05, 2013 08:34 AM (gyQY/)

157 35 Ron Paul's remarks were a way to endear him to SCOAMF as a replacement nominee in case Hagel goes down in flames.

In case Hagel goes down in flames?It wouldbea new low for the Senate to bring his nomination to the full floor. And there is no wa-...Oh wait. Hairy Reed is in charge. Never mind....Congratulations SecretaryHagel.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 05, 2013 08:34 AM (n8LUb)

158 Buried but still detected by smellin the EL LAy Time the Obammy Machine Spokesperson for Border Control Janet Napolitano states"the borders are secure now more than ever, the border security now is like a spaceship compared to a horse and buggy"..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 05, 2013 08:35 AM (x59Gv)

159 How about that Indiana state legislature, who won't even take up the issue of letting me buy a six-pack to drink at home on Sunday afternoon instead of drinking the six-pack then driving home?

Count your blessings. Do you wanna know what the agenda of the Maryland legislature is this year??
- Enact copycat legislation of New York's stupid gun law.
- Raise minimum wage to $10 an hour and index to inflation.
- Raise gas tax ten cents a gallon and pinky-swear it won't be looted from the Transportation fund and used for the usual corruption... like it has been every other time.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 05, 2013 08:35 AM (QXlbZ)

160 Joe Biden Confuses Poland with Portugal


http://preview.tinyurl.com/av4wbd6


But......Sarah Palin!!!

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 08:36 AM (MMC8r)

161 Oh, that's where I got that. Sheesh.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 08:36 AM (MMC8r)

162 Vic, your Daily Kitteh link isn't working...

Posted by: CanaDave at February 05, 2013 08:29 AM (aWb7O)


Ha just called it back up and got message that said "no hot linking allowed". That wasn't there before.


I'll have to find another.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:38 AM (53z96)

163 #136 Heather Radish, MY favorite legislature moment is them trying to collect the sales tax from Amazon earlier than Amazon and former Governor Daniels agreed to do.

I do not like going back on our word. I don't care if other states got them to agree to do it sooner. This is only about OUR agreement, and we would be breaking our word.

This is a democrat-type reneging, and I don't like it. it's nothing more than greed.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 05, 2013 08:39 AM (GoIUi)

164 - Enact copycat legislation of New York's stupid gun law.

- Raise minimum wage to $10 an hour and index to inflation.

- Raise gas tax ten cents a gallon and pinky-swear it won't be
looted from the Transportation fund and used for the usual corruption...
like it has been every other time.





Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 05, 2013 08:35 AM (QXlbZ)

Sir? Do you hate roads Sir? Have you no decency Sir???
God I hate Maryland. Can't wait to leave.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 05, 2013 08:39 AM (xAtAj)

165 New kitteh

http://is.gd/IgcmGm

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:39 AM (53z96)

166 #123 Hey, Captain Hate, that proves my point and thanks for posting the stats on Roves lack of success.



You're welcome but all I'm doing is repeating what Levin said in his show last night. He even went further in chronicling the track records of Rove's dickweed partner Steven Law in this new shithook organization in past Senate races. It's really an eye opener of almost total ineptitude.


He also slattered that dipshit husband of Gabby Giffords who trots her around like an organ grinder's monkey (lots of respect for your wife you deadbeat fuck) for his lying stat about 1.7 million people flunked a background check. Needless to say fuckstick Chris Wallace let it pass; they were "initially" denied but many subsequently bought one.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2013 08:40 AM (cdK9k)

167 Oops, take that you Demo scoundrel!

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:40 AM (53z96)

168 God I hate Maryland. Can't wait to leave.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at February 05, 2013 08:39 AM (xAtAj)



It was a glorious day when we loaded up and headed for Florida.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 08:41 AM (GEICT)

169 @ 164 well your state could emulate California ? Consider those FU one small step for the voters , out here we jump off the cliff for humanity from Mehico..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 05, 2013 08:41 AM (x59Gv)

170 God I hate Maryland. Can't wait to leave.

Texas still has lots of room.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:44 AM (8y9MW)

171 I did not listen to any talk radio yesterday. I stayed home because I did something to further aggravate fractured tailbone. I have been up since 3 am in pain.
I will listen to Mark Levin's rant about Rove.

Posted by: CarolT at February 05, 2013 08:44 AM (z4WKX)

172 Those of you who don't like your state government are right. And for the most part those are the same states that send Bozo's to Washington to make laws we all have to live by.

Posted by: Case at February 05, 2013 08:44 AM (gyQY/)

173 And when the apocalypse comes, and we're forced to eke out a living, we have plenty of windmills against which one could tilt.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:45 AM (8y9MW)

174 Sandy Hook father....fuck yes.

More please.


http://tinyurl.com/apf2knc

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 08:45 AM (fWAjv)

175 DAY 91



1,369 to go (1,444 to Inauguration Day 2017)



god that's depressing

Posted by: chemjeff at February 05, 2013 08:46 AM (BBWjt)

176 Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 08:45 AM (fWAjv)

Absolute. Moral. Authority.

Let the Leftists choke on that for a while.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:46 AM (8y9MW)

177 This will NOT be the damn government.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 08:10 AM (53z96)

That's no moon.

Dude, the stuff happening now is not supposed to be happening.

They will find a way to poison the Article V Convention.

Bank on it.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 08:47 AM (j7rp0)

178 If we had a NEWS media, Biden would have sunk the Obama campaign back in 2008. Hell, if we had a NEWS media, there never would have been an Obama campaign.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 08:47 AM (bb5+k)

179 @ 172 thats Mexifornia for the winner, Pelosi, Boxer and Fuckstein the princess triple crown of Debauchery..

Posted by: Clemenza at February 05, 2013 08:47 AM (x59Gv)

180 171 CarolT,

Here's hoping your tailbone heals. I try not to listen to talk radio b/c it used to calm me down or make me smile. Lately it just reminds me we are approaching the stage of the game where the muddled middle shrug and say "I like my new stuttering overlord."

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 08:47 AM (LRFds)

181 They will find a way to poison the Article V Convention.


One of our own SCOTUS "Justices" says that the South African Constitution (with its "positive rights") is superior to our own. We already know that the FSA agrees with her.

How do you propose an ArtV Convention that doesn't have to cater to at least some of them?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:48 AM (8y9MW)

182 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:46 AM (8y9MW)

Absolutely. I just watched it again and love it more.

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 08:48 AM (fWAjv)

183 CarolT - I never did hear if you had been to see a doc.
I hate hearing about anyone, well good people anyway, being in pain. Most of all an 'ette.

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 08:48 AM (kmLUz)

184 God I hate Maryland. Can't wait to leave.

Ditto. Talked to a realtor last night. Single family houses in my area are selling relatively quickly. I hope that remains the case.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 05, 2013 08:50 AM (QXlbZ)

185 Some of you folks don't grasp the reason others of us want an Article V convention.

Instead of knee-jerk reactions, stop and realize that it offers the opportunity to institute needed structural reforms-- AND-- the opportunity to create some sort of Constitutional exit mechanism.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 08:50 AM (+UrNT)

186 How do you propose an ArtV Convention that doesn't have to cater to at least some of them?


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:48 AM (8y9MW)


An Article V convention would be suicide. The reason we are having trouble in elections is because the nation is full of ignorant idiots. You don't think this group of people would show up and fuck up an Article V convention?

Damn straight they would!

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 08:52 AM (bb5+k)

187 Instead of knee-jerk reactions, stop and realize that it offers the
opportunity to institute needed structural reforms-- AND-- the
opportunity to create some sort of Constitutional exit mechanism.


Don't dismiss them as "knee-jerk reactions." Many of those of us opposed to an ArtV convention have thought it through. Certainly good could come of it, but a) I don't think its likely and b) the takers would get a say in the convention, too- making it more likely that things like Medicare or Social Security would be enshrined in the Constitution and less likely that things like a Right to Keep and Bear Arms would be.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:52 AM (8y9MW)

188
Vic, an Article V convention may not turn out like you think. We stand more to lose in such an event than gain in today's political environment.


And I am not seeing a way to avoid BITS at this point anyway. We are halfway there now.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at February 05, 2013 08:52 AM (8cJXl)

189 The Telegraph draws a line from Biden's sloppiness to the series of Obama presidency insults relating to Poland.

That's Hugh & Series!
That's Dan Quayle big!
Germany's blitzkrieg of Portugal in the opening days of WWII is a date that will live in infamy!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2013 08:54 AM (GFM2b)

190 181 Allen G,

Doesn't matter ideally what will happen will be that the Convention gets so muddled we simply agree to a break-up or exit mechanism. I could give three fucks about what the US Government does if we leave or break up and rebuild. Frankly I hope the Blue states go full 'tard.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 08:54 AM (LRFds)

191 Instead of knee-jerk reactions, stop and realize
that it offers the opportunity to institute needed structural reforms--
AND-- the opportunity to create some sort of Constitutional exit
mechanism.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 08:50 AM (+UrNT)

Any gathered body that requires the input of the shit heads which elected Obama is NOT going to be a good thing for us. What it will do is simply institutionalize the bulk of their idiocy.

No, the existing political process is too badly screwed up. I would have grave doubts at a convention's ability to accomplish anything non-destructive. The founders were brilliant. People today are fools.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 08:55 AM (bb5+k)

192 Morning all. I have a long freaken day today. I better make some money

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 08:55 AM (9Bj8R)

193
Ditto. Talked to a realtor last night. Single
family houses in my area are selling relatively quickly. I hope that
remains the case.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 05, 2013 08:50 AM (QXlbZ)


Good for you. Reasonable people need to get out of the Liberal hell holes, and concentrate the idiocy to the point where even the Liberals start to figure it out.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 08:56 AM (bb5+k)

194 That wasn't meant as a dig against Mitt.


Oh I didn't think it was at all. I was just expanding on the point that Romney had a nearly perfectly scandal free past and the MFM still went at him as if he were, to pick something at random, flying down to the DR to fuck underage hookers.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 08:57 AM (VtjlW)

195 You're not grasping my point.

I don't want an article V convention to preserve the Republic as it currently stands.

I want an article V convention to end it by codifying an exit mechanism for states.

Then the lovers of freedom can have a nation without Cali, New England, Chicago, and Milwaukee.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 08:58 AM (g2ruq)

196 Some of you folks don't grasp the reason others of us want an Article V convention.

Instead of knee-jerk reactions, stop and realize that it offers the opportunity to institute needed structural reforms-- AND-- the opportunity to create some sort of Constitutional exit mechanism.
Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 08:50 AM (+UrNT)

You are granting access to the source code of the Constitution.

Very dangerous.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 08:58 AM (j7rp0)

197 Let's think this ArtV convention thing through.

1- Selecting delegates.
You'll probably get a maker/taker ratio roughly equal to the red state/blue state ratio- with "purple states" splitting evenly.

2- Powers of the Government
Those takers (who will make up slightly less than half of the delegates) are going to want powers enshrined that we specifically don't want Government to have.

Oh, and forget a "Federalist" system. No one at the National Level wants that anymore.

3- Rights of the People
Even if we manage to enshrine things like freedom of speech (which many Constitutional Republics/Democracies have not) and the right to bear arms (which even more have not), we'll also likely end up enshrining things like a "right" to health care, and a "right" to a "living wage."

4- Ratification
When the thing comes up for ratification, it will go one of two ways. Either it will be "too far" in one direction or the other for many of the states, or it will be "just right." But we all (here) know that "just right" actually means enshrining socialism in our Constitution, where it isn't there now.

I simply do not see a realistic chance than an Article V convention to amend/re-write the constitution will actually bring us back from the brink of disaster on which we currently sit. If anything, it would make things worse.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:59 AM (8y9MW)

198 191 Diogenes Lamp,

Governors should be communicating with each other in regional alliances anyway. Part of the reason DC gets away with their horseshit is the Federal level is its own game and they feel no fear of their home states. Texas is notable for its grudging acceptance of the Federal govt's power.

Collapsing into the Red states as we fall makes sense and gives the opportunity for the right to alter its "patriotism" like the leftoids have embraced "citizen of the world" bullshit.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 08:59 AM (LRFds)

199 To be taken after the 'DOOM' post to bring the blood pressure down.


http://tinyurl.com/apwtoor

Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2013 09:00 AM (fWAjv)

200 We already have a failed Republic where the FSA determines what we will all have REGARDLESS of which State we live in.


Anyway, I am done here.

Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2013 09:00 AM (53z96)

201 Constitutional exit mechanism?

Red state sheriffs make deputies of all non felons and they arm themselves up.
All agents of the federal govt resign their positions oT get shown to the borders.
Businesses are instructed to cease collecting Fed income tax.
?
?
Barky told "You want some? Come get some."

That's just top o' the head stuff.
Feel free to fill in the question marks.

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 09:00 AM (dmcx3)

202 The Telegraph draws a line from Biden's sloppiness to the series of Obama presidency insults relating to Poland.



That's Hugh Series!

That's Dan Quayle big!

Germany's blitzkrieg of Portugal in the opening days of WWII is a date that will live in infamy!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2013 08:54 AM (GFM2b)


Dan Quayle was only considered dumb because the media set out to make him appear that way from the beginning. In the famous "Potato" example, he was judging a Spelling Bee when someone handed him a card with the word written "Pottatoe". Thus when the child spelled it "potato" Dan Quayle said "You have to add an "e". Given that everyone is familiar with seeing an "e" in "Potatoes", it was an easy mistake to make, especially when that is what the Judging card said.

The way the media intentionally spread and pumped up the rumor was simply the act of enemy agents attacking their political foes.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:01 AM (bb5+k)

203 Allen,

You're catching on.

An article V convention isn't about preserving the current union. It's about ending it.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 09:03 AM (/1Zl6)

204 Doesn't matter ideally what will happen will be that the Convention gets
so muddled we simply agree to a break-up or exit mechanism.


But that won't happen. There already is an "exit mechanism" in the Constitution. Up until Lincoln, basically everyone (well, okay- not "everyone" but enough people) agreed that was the case (no- this is not an invitation to refight the Civil War, it's just a statement). Lincoln (for some good reasons, some not so good) decided that since it wasn't explicitly spelled out, it didn't exist, which is the only reason we don't believe one exists today.

Now you're proposing that the Blue States will VOLUNTARILY allow the actual source of wealth in the United States (that would be: the Red States- wealth ~= productivity) to leave, leaving them with the bill for their constituents? Not likely.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:03 AM (8y9MW)

205
Oh I didn't think it was at all. I was just
expanding on the point that Romney had a nearly perfectly scandal free
past and the MFM still went at him as if he were, to pick something at
random, flying down to the DR to fuck underage hookers.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 08:57 AM (VtjlW)

The People who work in the News and Entertainment Industries are our enemy. They hate us, and they use their influence to hurt us.

We should deal as harshly with them as it is possible for us to accomplish.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:04 AM (bb5+k)

206 Sheriff Joe shoots skeet while on Meet the Press: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/02/Joe-Biden-Munich.jpg

"Ptoo! Ptoo!"

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at February 05, 2013 09:04 AM (42et8)

207 I want an article V convention to end it by codifying an exit mechanism for states.

Why do you think this exit mechanism will be respected by the other side?

Posted by: chemjeff at February 05, 2013 09:06 AM (BBWjt)

208 Napolitano, Hillary mulling 2016 runs. Running of the bulls.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 05, 2013 09:06 AM (wbmaj)

209 200 Vic,

Yeah pretty much I don't see it working which means we are either doomed, or doomed.

They won't quit pushing and people's fear to launch a shot across the bow will prevent any correction from occurring. Even having 20+ states call for an exit mechanism would send a clear message to the whole of the federal govt, but people would rather imagine some light switch rather than face the reality that we have the democrats willfully and openly playing "do whatever the fuck I need to do" at dumbing down, importing new actors, and colluding to use willfully unethical media to destroy the populace's understanding of civics.

"Our" elected officials could give three fucks about restoring Constitutional deference as it was once understood they are simply cutting the best deals they can get for themselves. You can't dodge the math, and you can count on the media engaging in willful propaganda on the blame game to demonize the people who were warning about the implosion. The Constitution and patriotism were never meant to be a suicide pact or a shield for people subverting the saidsame.

Anyway fuck it.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:06 AM (LRFds)

210
I want an article V convention to end it by codifying an exit mechanism for states.



Then the lovers of freedom can have a nation without Cali, New England, Chicago, and Milwaukee.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 08:58 AM (g2ruq)

It is very unlikely to be turned into something you want. It is far more likely to be turned into something horrible. The Media would scream bloody murder at anything sensible, and thereby motivate public opinion to put pressure on the Delegates. Don't think you can ignore the influence they will bring to bear. Hell, we can't even get our own congressmen to defy them in any meaningful numbers.

I think this is a really bad idea.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:06 AM (bb5+k)

211 Yo.

A question about the timing of the Menendez story...

ICE knew about his intern back in October, or maybe earlier.

Is it possible that some people have known what he did for a while now and that is why Cory Booker said he was running even though Lautenberg isn't quitting?

Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 05, 2013 09:07 AM (SUKHu)

212 Napolitano, Hillary mulling 2016 runs. Running of the bulls.


Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 05, 2013 09:06 AM

***

Dueling Strap-Ons

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 05, 2013 09:07 AM (+I8Mq)

213 Governors should be communicating with each other in
regional alliances anyway. Part of the reason DC gets away with their
horseshit is the Federal level is its own game and they feel no fear of
their home states. Texas is notable for its grudging acceptance of the
Federal govt's power.

Collapsing into the Red states as we fall
makes sense and gives the opportunity for the right to alter its
"patriotism" like the leftoids have embraced "citizen of the world"
bullshit.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 08:59 AM (LRFds)

I agree. Conservative states should be working to strengthen ties with each other. If done properly, they can evolve away economically from the Liberal states.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:08 AM (bb5+k)

214 207 Chemjeff,

Doesn't matter. At that point "the other side' trying to stop us will be an exercise in moral clarity. The ONLY argument they have is "you are just trying to avoid our desires and STEAL US soil." The thing is that US soil is the State's not DC's.

Time to settle this once and for all our position will never get better.

My opinion anyway.

NY, Cali, Illinois all feel they have the 'right" to control every other state.

I don't buy that.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:08 AM (LRFds)

215 I simply do not see a realistic chance than an Article V convention to amend/re-write the constitution will actually bring us back from the brink of disaster on which we currently sit. If anything, it would make things worse.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:59 AM (8y9MW)



THIS.

It's insane to say on the one hand that the FSA has overtaken American society, but on the other hand think that hitting reset will result in the complete opposite.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 05, 2013 09:08 AM (GEICT)

216 Dueling Strap-Ons
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 05, 2013 09:07 AM (+I8Mq)

Carpet Cleaner II: The Flossing Agenda

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 09:09 AM (j7rp0)

217 Look, the left just doesn't see the law in the same way that we do. We see the law as something that ought to be respected even if we disagree with it. The left only feels obligated to respect the law if they personally agree with it. When the law doesn't agree with it, they either ignore it or launch some inane protest to get it changed. So putting into a new Constitution some legal mechanism for secession *won't matter*, because the left will simply ignore it anyway and invade the secessionist states a la 1861 all over again.

Posted by: chemjeff at February 05, 2013 09:09 AM (BBWjt)

218 Allen,

Given the opportunity to be rid of flyover country, I think N.E and Cali would take it.

You're thinking about it more rationally then them. They are convinced that, free of the fetters of the flyover fools, they would have a socialist utopia in their states.

Given the opportunity to enshrine whatever they wished into the constitution, they would take it if the only trade off were an exit mechanism.

The reality us, for better or worse, the unpleasantness under Mr Lincoln settled the matter of exit from the union.

So let us gather for a legal divorce.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 09:10 AM (BMEH4)

219 216
No need for contraception but paid for anyway.

Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at February 05, 2013 09:10 AM (+I8Mq)

220 Good morning rons. Just got the youngen some McDonalds Hot Cakes. She's happy and here I am.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:11 AM (l86i3)

221
Oh I didn't think it was at all. I was just expanding on the point that Romney had a nearly perfectly scandal free past and the MFM still went at him as if he were, to pick something at random, flying down to the DR to fuck underage hookers.

Whew. Thank you, My Queen. The last thing I want is a package in the mail, especially one that makes angry noises.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 09:11 AM (+z4pE)

222 To liberals, the only valid law is what they believe is right in their
own heads. So if they don't believe it is right for red states to
secede, they will try to stop it, despite what any constitution says.

Posted by: chemjeff at February 05, 2013 09:12 AM (BBWjt)

223 204 Allen G,

I understand your reservations, but an overt push for an amendment is a warning shot across the bow. As it now stands there is a simple, and totally stupid answer to "can states leave" based on "well Lincoln killed a lot of folks and said 'no' so no." The Blue states want to steal the wealth of the interior and play bread and circuses for their Megalopolis and tell themselves lies about where the US' power and wealth come from.

If the interior overtly lays down this gauntlet and the Blue freak out it will give moral clarity.

We should all be pushing our states if they are red or purple towards regional alliances.

The left engaged in extratraditional and extra constitutional games, and it is high time the right does the same in avenues we have more power.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:13 AM (LRFds)

224 An Art. V Convention has the potential to write into the Constitution all the crap the Left wrongly claims is already there.

Don't like penumbras? Here they are in black & white.

The dissolution of the USA has to happen organically. The States need to separate when the forces acting on them prompt it to happen and not a day sooner.

Do not ever give the other side a chance to make what they want the Law of the Land.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 09:14 AM (j7rp0)

225 222 Chemjeff,

I agree, but in following the Constitution we will have moral clarity.

Moral clarity is worth at least five divisions.

The Blue invading the red to keep the "right" to steal our way of life is "clarity."

None of this can happen until the right admits that the left is earnest when they set two sets of rules and consider them second class citizens.

This nation has been split for at least 40-50 years and probably more like 90-100.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:15 AM (LRFds)

226 Lincoln (for some good reasons, some not so good)
decided that since it wasn't explicitly spelled out, it didn't exist,
which is the only reason we don't believe one exists today.




Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:03 AM (8y9MW)

An aspect of this that I always considered Ironic, is that Lincoln's "Four Score and Seven Years ago..." Speech refers to the time (1863 - 87 years= 1776) when the Nation broke away from England.

A Tacit admission that such a thing was not only legal, but the very foundation of this nation's existence!

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:15 AM (bb5+k)

227 You're thinking about it more rationally then them. They are convinced
that, free of the fetters of the flyover fools, they would have a
socialist utopia in their states.


Except I don't believe their elected officials (who are the ones who would make the decision "to be rid of fly-over country") are irrational. I think they've figured out they're onto a sweet deal.

1) Get elected
2) Do nothing hard
2a) Possible Exception: Funnel enough money to the people who elected you to get reelected in perpetuity.
3) Funnel large amounts of money to yourself, or those who will pay you.
4) Foist the bill on the productive class

Those are the people who would make the decision- not "ObamaPho" lady. I don't think they're irrational- I think they're evil. And I don't think they'd let the actual source of wealth in this country go lightly.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:16 AM (8y9MW)

228 I don't find the argument, "an article V shouldn't be attempted because the left is so untrustworthy that they can't be expected to abide by it" a compelling argument.

Infact, to me, it makes an argument for an article V even more potent. At the very least, I think we can get enough states together to agree to kick out California.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 09:16 AM (D90Db)

229 Patterico has a 'shop of TFG shooting with a helpful teleprompter.

Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 05, 2013 09:16 AM (SUKHu)

230 Is it possible that some people have known what he did for a while now and that is why Cory Booker said he was running even though Lautenberg isn't quitting?
Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 05, 2013 09:07 AM (SUKHu)

Dying maybe, quitting never

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2013 09:16 AM (9Bj8R)

231 Sorry teej, didn't mean to sound all metal-edged ruler on you there.
One of the Regulars Who Shall Remain Nameless (you know, you can say that in Latin in just one word) went on an anti-Latin awful-snobs rant the other day.
I held my Mother Tongue, but won't deny I was Buttus Hurtus.

I'm a fan of trivial education. Trivial and quadrivial. As every Yale or Harvard grad used to know, there are three classical languages. But I'd give partial credit for Yiddish.

Posted by: comatus at February 05, 2013 09:17 AM (qaVK+)

232 Just look at what we are going through with "comprehensive immigration reform" right now. WE ALL KNOW that the left WANTS damn near unrestricted migration from Mexico to the US in order to create a permanent dependency class with themselves as the benevolent government stewards, as well as to pad their vote totals to give them a permanent Democrat majority. We know that this is what they truly want. But nevertheless they are willing to sign up for deals like the 1965 amnesty and the 1986 amnesty that had, *on paper*, requirements for border security and the like. But the left feels completely free and non-remorseful about ignoring these provisions of the law, because to them it conflicts with what they believe is right in their own minds (i.e., permanent Democrat dominance in order to create the Utopian Socialist America that they dream about)

It is the same thing with issue after issue. Republicans demand Democrats agree to conservative-sounding ideas on paper, and then when the time comes, Democrats ignore them and get away with it.

So it will be exactly the same with any new constitution. Democrats will ignore it whenever it suits them. That goes especially true for any sort of secession clause.

Posted by: chemjeff at February 05, 2013 09:17 AM (BBWjt)

233 215 BC1981,

Free Shit Army doesn't rule everywhere, it rules the coasts and sadly a fair reading shows mostly the cities on the coasts.

The Ark La Tex arguably up the middle would happily leave if we forced the donks to overreact and assert that the middle states are the coasts piggybank.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:17 AM (LRFds)

234 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:11 AM (l86i3)

Whoops. I thought you were already here.

Did I make you a star overnight?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:17 AM (8y9MW)

235 So when will this burning when I pee go away?

Posted by: Sen Menendez at February 05, 2013 09:19 AM (wR+pz)

236 Did I make you a star overnight?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:17 AM (8y9MW)

I'll have my people get with your people and we'll talk about it.


No, but it can't hurt and once again, thank you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:19 AM (l86i3)

237 Why do you think this exit mechanism will be respected by the other side?


Posted by: chemjeff at February 05, 2013 09:06 AM (BBWjt)

They think they are going to sneak secession up on the other side. It reminds me of a Tony Orlando and Dawn skit where Tony is in a Karate outfit getting ready to break a brick. He makes several running starts at it, at which point Thelma Hopkins asks "What are you trying to do? Sneak up on the brick? "


We are not going to sneak secession through such a body.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:19 AM (bb5+k)

238
We should deal as harshly with them as it is possible for us to accomplish.

Uncle Ted's smackdown of Piers Morgan last night was really good. He told PR he was full of shit to his face, and told him that gun owners were good, responsible folk who could be trusted. He then asked PM why he couldn't just leave us all alone.

Typical Ted.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 09:19 AM (+z4pE)

239 The Left doesn't need an Article V convention as long as they have the courts.

Posted by: zsasz at February 05, 2013 09:19 AM (MMC8r)

240 Eman,

I agree about organic division.

Without an article V convention, I do not think that can occur without the spilling of blood and the loss of many lives.

Which is precisely what I want to see avoided. Which is why I want an article V so as to dissolve the union, or create an exit mechanism.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 09:20 AM (BMEH4)

241 232 ChemJeff,

CJ your good points in this post are why we HAVE to split. They have a programmed set of young voters who buy into that clip of John Edwards' "right or privilege" coupled with 44 million guys named Juan to change the Constitution overtly at some point anyway. hell they never feel the need for Art V b/c they put up Justices that happily assert foreign jurisprudence is precedent for ignoring US Constitutional precedent.

There is a timebomb that will allow the donks to go full commie on a long enough timeline anyway.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:21 AM (LRFds)

242 I understand your reservations, but an overt push for an amendment is a warning shot across the bow.


The ball is in your court Governor Perry.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at February 05, 2013 09:21 AM (ZOf1l)

243 #212 Now that's an image from hell.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 05, 2013 09:21 AM (wbmaj)

244 176
Let the Leftists choke on that for a while.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 08:46 AM


FIFY

What we need is a new Cato the Elder who would preface every speech with " Fuck the New York Times and the rest of the lickspittle press". Or however the hell you'd say that in latin.

Posted by: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at February 05, 2013 09:22 AM (Hsgnv)

245
Do not ever give the other side a chance to make what they want the Law of the Land.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 09:14 AM (j7rp0)


This.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:22 AM (bb5+k)

246 237 Diogenes lamp,

No I am pretty sure the other side will try to invoke treason as a meme leading to a borderline shooting conflict.

If Billy Ayers is a "fine American" I cannot be.

That is where we are.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:22 AM (LRFds)

247 I understand your reservations, but an overt push for an amendment is a
warning shot across the bow. As it now stands there is a simple, and
totally stupid answer to "can states leave" based on "well Lincoln
killed a lot of folks and said 'no' so no." The Blue states want to
steal the wealth of the interior and play bread and circuses for their
Megalopolis and tell themselves lies about where the US' power and
wealth come from.

If the interior overtly lays down this gauntlet and the Blue freak out it will give moral clarity.


Okay, but then you're talking about convincing people that there should be a Constitutionally Mandated withdrawal method- and I think that's going to be a tougher sale (especially in the Red/Purple states) than the idea of ending Medicare or Social Security.

I'm sorry, if people need an overt "NO! You belong to us!" from the Left for "moral clarity," they're blind.

I liken it to the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus: "They have the law and all the prophets. If they won't believe them, even you returning from the dead won't convince them."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:23 AM (8y9MW)

248 If a Certain Party around here really, really had a blog, OSP would now be hearing those Two Little Words every author dreams of.

Film Rights.

The only rights Hollywood respects.

Posted by: comatus at February 05, 2013 09:23 AM (qaVK+)

249 Good morning rons. Just got the youngen some McDonalds Hot Cakes. She's happy and here I am.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:11 AM (l86i3)



Great. Now I want hotcakes.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at February 05, 2013 09:24 AM (VtjlW)

250 Posted by: comatus at February 05, 2013 09:23 AM (qaVK+)

I think you'd need someone with a little more exposure that the blog I don't have. Maybe Ace could read-and-review.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:24 AM (8y9MW)

251 227 AllenG,

Correct I agree in whole. That is why we need to overtly get it exposed they view the entire nation as a single piggy bank to play with. The people of frugal states that balance their budgets will have a moment of clarity I hope.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:25 AM (LRFds)

252 Eman,

I agree about organic division.

Without an article V convention, I do not think that can occur without the spilling of blood and the loss of many lives.

Which is precisely what I want to see avoided. Which is why I want an article V so as to dissolve the union, or create an exit mechanism.
Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 09:20 AM (BMEH4)

What in the world makes you think you will get what you want?

The fact that you want it?

I look at the balance between risk and opportunity, and risk weighs way more.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 09:25 AM (j7rp0)

253 I think you'd need someone with a little more exposure that the blog I don't have. Maybe Ace could read-and-review.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:24 AM (8y9MW)

I think he only has time for movies. That's a big jump for him. Oregon Muse did a really nice write up on the book thread and it was put in the sidebar. I can't really hope for more than that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:27 AM (l86i3)

254 "Jim Pethokoukis has an excellent column at NRO on 'Creeping New Normalcy' that's worth a read."






It's the no information types. They don't pay attention or care for the most part. They're in the pot of water as the heat is getting turned up but don't seem to realize it's not going to be a nice hot bath but a slow boil

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 05, 2013 09:27 AM (1Jaio)

255 247 Allen G,

You need to make a point and take the heat, inspire folks to wonder, and then have a resolute body of people gain "fellow travelers" you know like the Communists have.

It is time to openly start calling the blue games what they are, slow treason and build a counter movement.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:27 AM (LRFds)

256 Without an article V convention, I do not think that can occur without the spilling of blood and the loss of many lives.


It won't occur without the spilling of blood and loss of many lives anyway.

First accept this truth- then decide your course. The Leaders on the left aren't stupid- they're playing for an audience (their constituents). Okay, some of them are stupid, but not most of them. Most of them know exactly what they're doing, and exactly what the costs are.

And if you think you'll get them to let go without a fight, you're delusional.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:27 AM (8y9MW)

257 I have to start LSAT studies for the day.

Was good.

Ultimately Allen and CJ, I think you are arguing against yourselves. If the left is all the things you claim, then the union needs dissolving or splitting.

Sven and I are trying to agree with you, and point out that there is only one way to do such a thing peacefully. Is it a sure thing? No. But it is a better thing than being ground to dust by the long march of the left through our institutions and via regulatory domination.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 09:27 AM (1kPLg)

258 Great. Now I want hotcakes.

Avenge me!

Posted by: St. Pancake of Palestine at February 05, 2013 09:28 AM (NF2Bf)

259 252 eman,

I assure you not firing a warning shot across the bow guarantees that inertia and the courts fuck us.

I give you the last 70 years of jurisprudence as evidence.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:28 AM (LRFds)

260 Hell I just wish they would take "shots across the bow." You know like ignoring EPA rulings and court decisions that discredit the 10th amendment. That to me would be a decent start to see what the Feds/left would answer with.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at February 05, 2013 09:28 AM (ZOf1l)

261 No I am pretty sure the other side will try to invoke treason as a meme leading to a borderline shooting conflict.

If Billy Ayers is a "fine American" I cannot be.

That is where we are.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:22 AM (LRFds)

I'm all for slowly making our way to the exits. When the fire alarm goes off, we can be first through the door.

Slow Economic disengagement from the Liberal States is the way to do it.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:28 AM (bb5+k)

262 I do not personally like Valentine's day because it is a sexist holiday. This year I asked my partner (Of 14 years) forgo the candy and flowers and just bring by video footage of the inaugaration of Presdent Obama in 2013 and just enjoy the splender. This is what will make me happy and reinforce the good that come to me over the past four years when Presdent Obama came into my life.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at February 05, 2013 09:29 AM (3lMGK)

263 252 eman,

I assure you not firing a warning shot across the bow guarantees that inertia and the courts fuck us.

I give you the last 70 years of jurisprudence as evidence.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:28 AM (LRFds)

Art. V is not a shot across the bow. It is letting the other side into your headquarters and letting them copy your code books and maps during truce negotiations.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 09:31 AM (j7rp0)

264 260 Samuel Adams,

Arizona is trying.

Look as we fall especially blue state Red types we need to go as refugees to red states.

If Texas, Arizona, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas and if enough Red went to New Mexico to try to reflip it as a bloc said "fuck you" to the EPA and joined as a group a suit against EPA it'd make a point.

the city folk are pretending they are in one city when it comes to law.

The interior needs to do the same in reverse.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)

265 This year I asked my partner (Of 14 years)


Gee Mary, I didn't know German Shepherds lived that long.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at February 05, 2013 09:31 AM (ZOf1l)

266
Slow Economic disengagement from the Liberal States is the way to do it.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:28 AM (bb5+k)


Thats the way it was all designed in the first place. The states ran their own business. If you didn't like it, you were free to try another state more to you're liking. But now, the Feds tentacles are deep into everything they are making sure there is no escape.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:31 AM (l86i3)

267 263 Eman,

Nah it is pitching the tent, and if we get lucky we pass an amendment overtly allowing exit.

I get what you're saying but it can be seen as a step 1 as well.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:32 AM (LRFds)

268 Ultimately Allen and CJ, I think you are arguing against yourselves. If
the left is all the things you claim, then the union needs dissolving
or splitting.


I'm not certain we're to the point that the union requires dissolution- yet- but the time to change course is very, very narrow. But when dissolution is required, blood will flow and people will die.

That's a huge leap, and I want to exhaust every other avenue first.

And I don't see that an ArtV convention helps. I just don't.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:32 AM (8y9MW)

269 Tell the truth...how many of you are going to claim you're giving up buying candy and flowers for Lent?

Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 05, 2013 09:32 AM (SUKHu)

270
Hell I just wish they would take "shots across the bow." You know like ignoring EPA rulings and court decisions that discredit the 10th amendment. That to me would be a decent start to see what the Feds/left would answer with.

How about my suggestion upthread that the guvnuh of Kalifornia turn on the water pumps to the Central Valley? I know that Moonbeam wouldn't do it, but something on that order would get the ball rolling.

And be entertaining to boot.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 09:32 AM (+z4pE)

271 comatus- I'm not a Latin language hater, or Greek or any of the others. Wish I would have "buckled down" when I was younger and learned them all. Along with a lot of other things. Physics, chemistry, history, you name it.
Life, somewhat due to circumstances but in the end, totally due to uninformed choices, didn't turn out that way.

I do know of one 'ette however, who one of our self described intellectuals trashed in a book thread some time back, that quit commenting.
I consider myself blessed to still be in contact with her. She loves God and this country's constitution.
The rest of the Horde lost a good one to Lurker status.

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 09:32 AM (sr7ZF)

272 Tell the truth...how many of you are going to claim you're giving up buying candy and flowers for Lent?
Posted by: Mama AJ, Assault Poiser at February 05, 2013 09:32 AM (SUKHu)

Just the ones that hate sex.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:33 AM (l86i3)

273 Hell I just wish they would take "shots across the bow." You know like
ignoring EPA rulings and court decisions that discredit the 10th
amendment. That to me would be a decent start to see what the Feds/left
would answer with.


I think this would have a much higher chance of success (and be a faster way to determine the landscape) than an ArtV convention.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:33 AM (8y9MW)

274 I just saw that Reg Presley, lead singer of the Troggs ("Wild Thing") died.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 05, 2013 09:33 AM (DuH+r)

275
It is time to openly start calling the blue games what they are, slow treason and build a counter movement.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:27 AM (LRFds)

I think the first step is to stop calling them "blue" (Media Propaganda) and start calling them what they are; "RED."

Calling them "RED" ought to clarify the issue. If only we would make a damn point about it!
Avoid the habit of calling conservatives "Red" and Liberals (communists) "Blue". It only serves their interests. Use the terms "Conservative" and "Liberal".






Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:33 AM (bb5+k)

276 Did anyone see the website that Menendez's buddy's Russian girlfriend had?

Ace would give up writing and devote his life to fapping to her photos.


If it comes back, it was at svitlanabuchyk dot com.

Posted by: jwest at February 05, 2013 09:33 AM (ZDsRL)

277 As a very wise Vorlon once said, "The avalanche has started; it is too late for the pebbles to vote."

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 05, 2013 09:34 AM (QXlbZ)

278 “All America lies at the end of the wilderness road, and our past is not a dead past, but still lives in us. Our forefathers had civilization inside themselves, the wild outside. We live in the civilization they created, but within us the wilderness still lingers. What they dreamed, we live, and what they lived, we dream.”
― T.K. Whipple

The frontier was not conquered by the Huffington Post writers wearing trendy black-framed glasses. The nation was not hewn together by a journalist. Hold the Line. For it is, despite evidence to the contrary, a good time to be alive.

And a greater time to be an American. What they will live, we dream. And we create.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqTExeEAYqs&feature=youtube_gdata_player





Posted by: The past is prologue at February 05, 2013 09:35 AM (iPKuX)

279 Michelle Malkin has a lovely article about that guy who can make his next career being the ben franklin living history guy for the DC metro area.

http://michellemalkin.com/

Posted by: food fight! at February 05, 2013 09:36 AM (/b8+5)

280
Sven and I are trying to agree with you, and
point out that there is only one way to do such a thing peacefully. Is
it a sure thing? No. But it is a better thing than being ground to
dust by the long march of the left through our institutions and via
regulatory domination.

Posted by: Hopeless at February 05, 2013 09:27 AM (1kPLg)

There is NOT only one way to do such a thing peacefully. Another method of doing it peacefully is by a slow economic disentanglement from the worst parts of the Liberal block. Don't buy from California, Don't buy from New York, Don't buy from Illinois.

Buy from states that support your principles.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:36 AM (bb5+k)

281 Yeah, the fucking Terminator had the greatest opportunity to say fuck you to the Feds when he actually visited the Central Valley but in the end he was nothing more than Danny DeVito's sidekick.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at February 05, 2013 09:37 AM (ZOf1l)

282 Be careful what you wish for

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 05, 2013 09:37 AM (8sCoq)

283 268 AllenG,

They are going to disarm us or try in my lifetime. Probably, perversely after amnesty Obama will invoke Fast and Furious as a reason for it. 44 million guys named Juan will agree b/c the media will refuse to point out the insanity of the invokation.

Allen we need to overtly start letting them know that, yes we are getting close to wanting a divorce and fuck you liberals and your hatred of the contract.

Their voters think this is a game and a joke.

The voter fraud, the echo chamber they think they are winning by cheating at checkers.

Well when my brother tried cheating I warned him, then I punched him in the fucking mouth.

The game is rigged, and will only get more so.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:38 AM (LRFds)

284 If Texas, Arizona, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas and
if enough Red went to New Mexico to try to reflip it as a bloc said
"fuck you" to the EPA and joined as a group a suit against EPA it'd make
a point.

the city folk are pretending they are in one city when it comes to law.

The interior needs to do the same in reverse.


Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)

Have you ever been to New Mexico? Not a lot there that would make me want to live there. Parts of it are nice, but parts of it are just desolate.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:38 AM (bb5+k)

285 I just saw that Reg Presley, lead singer of the Troggs ("Wild Thing") died.

Go on to ITunes sometmie and look for "Senator Bobby" singing "Wild Thing."

A little more 'Boston Soul,' Senator.'

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 05, 2013 09:39 AM (zF6Iw)

286
The game is rigged, and will only get more so.
Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:38 AM (LRFds)


Agreed. I don't know where we are going, but I know my history. We are due for some serious hardship and a big FKN brawl.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:39 AM (l86i3)

287
Arizona is trying.


And getting our asses handed to us at the Federal level. Even the SB1070 ruling stripped out any meaning at SCOTUS. And the result?


The USBP was withdrawn even farther from the border. I rarely see the Border Patrol where I live, anymore. And to paraphrase Tina Fey, I can see Mexico from my house.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at February 05, 2013 09:40 AM (8cJXl)

288 Not a lot there that would make me want to live there. Parts of it are nice, but parts of it are just desolate.

Depends on your definition of "desolate." I love the Bad Lands. What those parts "are" is poverty-ridden, for a variety of reasons.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:40 AM (8y9MW)

289
Thats the way it was all designed in the first
place. The states ran their own business. If you didn't like it, you
were free to try another state more to you're liking. But now, the Feds
tentacles are deep into everything they are making sure there is no
escape.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:31 AM (l86i3)

I, as an individual can chose to buy a product from a Liberal state, or not. That's why I keep saying we need an App that lets us scan a product and tells us immediately what that products liberal connections are.

Part of our difficulty is that we support financially, people who hate us. If we could know when we are about to do this, we could better avoid it.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at February 05, 2013 09:41 AM (bb5+k)

290 Allen we need to overtly start letting them know that, yes we are
getting close to wanting a divorce and fuck you liberals and your hatred
of the contract.


I agree. I disagree that an ArtV convention is the way to do it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at February 05, 2013 09:41 AM (8y9MW)

291 275 Diogenes Lamp,

Yeah I'm pretty sure that step the media refusing to alternate back was the beginning of their overt and purposeful collusion with the Democrats.

There is subtle psychology involved, and it is time to admit that the Communists in the '60s were right and the nation is flawed and largely doomed.

Openly start pointing out the game is rigged, that a domestic terrorist sets curriculum and has poisoned so many in education that Conservatives cannot trust them to turn out citizens who understand our Constitution.

Start the split.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:41 AM (LRFds)

292 Imagine every Lefty SCOTUS decision now written directly into the Constitution.

Every bad law.

Every bad regulation.

The last item they will add is "no more Art. V Conventions".

We will be well and truly fucked.

Do not ever fuck with the Constitution source code.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 09:42 AM (j7rp0)

293 @264- There you go again sven, leaving out Kansas.

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 09:42 AM (S08dG)

294 As for now I don't completely trust my state (Kansas) from saying fuck you. Some days there is hope and then somedays the Legislature does stupid shit like trying to force KU and Wichita State to play against each other in Basketball.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at February 05, 2013 09:42 AM (ZOf1l)

295 All I ask from the silly Ewok who runs this sick joke of a blog is one day without racism. One day without right wing hate. One day in which you open your hearts to Barack Obama's dream for a better tomorrow.

But you won't do it. You refuse to move FORWARD! to a more correct-thinking future of peace, and social justice. A world without poverty.

There is no room in the future for the likes of you.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 05, 2013 09:43 AM (h9WhI)

296 Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 05, 2013 09:43 AM (h9WhI)


LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on KINDLE finally at February 05, 2013 09:44 AM (l86i3)

297 288 Allen G,

The badlands have a resource, "space" and properly managed low wage skilled workers.

That's the problem we have right now is a Federal govt playing games and denying states the power to compete and use their strengths.

New Mexico could be an industrial power, but will never be until they want it. The Blue assholes want them on the dole and thwart the free market from working with minimum wage laws and regulatory fiat. They are using extraConstitutional mechanisms for purposes other than what they were created for to try to micromanage opportunity.

We cannot coexist.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:44 AM (LRFds)

298 Sure glad there is no inflation--just ordered water filters from AoS Amazon and price had jumped 7.6% since I put them on my wish list last week.


Good times, good times!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 05, 2013 09:46 AM (Cnqmv)

299 Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:44 AM (LRFds)


I know, just have Colorado annex Sante Fe by offering those fucking hippies free medical pot and I'll bet that New Mexico will turn red.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at February 05, 2013 09:46 AM (ZOf1l)

300
The badlands have a resource, "space" and properly managed low wage skilled workers

Heh. It's too bad some state won't invoke its own version of emminent domain and seize the Federal land for their own. After all, it isn't occupied by the Feds, it is in the State.

Seize it and start drilling for oil on it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at February 05, 2013 09:49 AM (+z4pE)

301 300 Backwards Boy,

Yup "Alaska."

Hell maybe we should all run to Alaska and start lobbying for that at the state level.

The point is the States are cowards now.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:51 AM (LRFds)

302 >Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 05, 2013 09:43 AM (h9WhI)


all schtick grows stale in time

Posted by: Jones in CO at February 05, 2013 09:51 AM (8sCoq)

303 293 Teej,

Kansas is hard to figure out.

I know Texas and Oklahoma are solid and am pretty sure Louisiana is ready.

Hard to figure but we need to start a long march in reverse.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 09:52 AM (LRFds)

304 LOL Mr Adams. While it would be pretty cool if the Shockers got to play the Cats and the Jayhawks every year, it's not the kind of thing to bring about by force of law.
Kind lot like the smoking ban.
And I sure didn't care for Brownback slobbering all over commie Hensley in his state of the state speech. The rest of it was pretty good though.
And we managed to get a more conservative legislature this time around so the story goes.

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 09:56 AM (W50F+)

305 Like I say teej, somedays I'm confident. Maybe if we just gave Johnson County to Misery.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at February 05, 2013 09:59 AM (ZOf1l)

306 http://www.youtube.com/embed/hC3VTgIPoGU?rel=0

largest glacier-calving ever filmed

Posted by: not really here at February 05, 2013 10:03 AM (0AkWH)

307 The core problem is the interpretation of the tenth amendment vice the commerce clause. Force an Article 5 convention on that issue, you go soft by working state legislatures or you go hard by having Red states titrate the flow of food and energy into the Blue using State agricultural, vehicle safety, and environmental "inspections".

While you've got the convention going, you can fix a few other things: Balanced Budget Amendment, the Fed, End Withholding, a Personhood definition that ends the anchor baby problem, abortion, and Gay Marriage.

Posted by: Jean at February 05, 2013 10:05 AM (0cUd9)

308 Eman, it's one state one vote at the Convention? And the Convention should end with a sunset amendment on all existed elected officials.

Posted by: Jean at February 05, 2013 10:08 AM (0cUd9)

309 Eman, it's one state one vote at the Convention? And the Convention should end with a sunset amendment on all existed elected officials.
Posted by: Jean at February 05, 2013 10:08 AM (0cUd9)

Sadly, it would very likely end with a Living Constitution.

Posted by: eman at February 05, 2013 10:14 AM (j7rp0)

310 309 Eman,

as opposed to what we have now?

Time to split and take the "old whitey document" with us.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 10:15 AM (LRFds)

311 Of course...it would take a British newspaper to actually go after Biden for making such a fundamental mistake.

Meanwhile, it's still a meme that during a debate, Bush went out of his way to acknowledge that Poland was part of the Iraqi coalition, when Kerry forgot...and Bush is made out to be the dumb one.

Posted by: MadisonConservative at February 05, 2013 10:18 AM (Y/HG5)

312 311 Madison Conservative,

You know it would probably not be a bad idea having a less staid version of media matters to point out the hypocritical fucktardery of the media with regards to..."THE DONKS NEVER GAAAFFFFE!!"

Hell use clips from C-span showing the collusion and show past examples of The Daily Show bulldozing missteps.

I'd really enjoy knocking the smug off Stewart's face.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 05, 2013 10:22 AM (LRFds)

313 Again with titrate? Guess that one is going to be around for a while.

Posted by: teej at February 05, 2013 10:27 AM (SgWU/)






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