A Case for Optimism?

Well, I guess that's why he calls himself the Gay Patriot West.

I don't know... I'm linking this because I think optimism is a Good Thing and I'd sure like everyone to feel good (including myself) but....

...uhhh...

He will not longer be able to use that issue (i.e., “tax the rich) against Republicans as effectively as he did in the campaign.

Well sure, anytime you completely lose on an issue your opponent can't use it against you as much. (But note only "as much" -- he can still say "These Republicans, who argued for tax breaks for billionaires...")

DOCTOR: I've got some good news, and some bad news.

PATIENT: Let me have the bad news first.

DOCTOR: You're going to be dead in three days.

PATIENT: Dead in three days? What's the good news?

DOCTOR: I'm banging your wife.

PATIENT: You're having an affair with my wife?

DOCTOR: Banging. I wouldn't dignify it as "an affair."

PATIENT: Well then you're banging my wife! How is the hell is that remotely good news?!

DOCTOR: You've got bigger things to worry about. How I envy you your perspective.

PATIENT: ...

DOCTOR: Anal, too.

Posted by: Ace at 06:48 PM



Comments

1 pretty soon the GOP will return to power in the form of David Cameron's Tories and everything will be superduper

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 06:52 PM (60GaT)

2 Yeah,I'm not optimistic.

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2013 06:52 PM (9XBK2)

3 Can I buy pot from this guy?

Posted by: CAC at January 29, 2013 06:53 PM (mZgAF)

4 I endorse Optimism for Optimism's sake.


(And that joke too.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 06:54 PM (CHnHn)

5 Nice stealth edit, ace.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 29, 2013 06:54 PM (7xeJQ)

6 What does a Case of Optimism go for these days?

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 06:54 PM (yT4PM)

7 He will not longer be able to use that issue (i.e., “tax the rich) against Republicans as effectively as he did in the campaign.





He's already won and will continue to press forward with his leftist agenda. The MFM will spin away like crazy for him and enough mouth breathers will buy it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2013 06:55 PM (RRVBX)

8 Pretty sure it was going to burn anyway, might as well burn with a lefty at the helm.

Posted by: traye at January 29, 2013 06:55 PM (egENL)

9 But yeah, I don't endorse being optimistic about losing (ground).

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 06:55 PM (CHnHn)

10 The gay patriot? I guess yeah why not. I mean it was damn cold at valley forge

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 06:55 PM (9Bj8R)

11 let's take a page from the left's playbook and start using the phrase "lame duck president" like they did in jan 2004.

Also, let's use the phrase "The Most Vile, Undead, Fly Master, Lord of the Unclean" to describe SCOAMF from here on in. Isn't it a tad spooky that he's emitting and attracting flies in January? Some D&D monsters and demigods research should clear up if SCOAMF is Baal, or just some Big Eared Assfuck.

mockery...

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 06:57 PM (QxSug)

12 case for optimism? Um, there's going to be no tech boom or Gingrich to save his bacon like Uncle Bill had. And even then, Gore lost.

so there's that.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 06:58 PM (QxSug)

13 Of course they can and will use tax the rich. His followers don't care that He also bribes the rich and uses the rich to further himself. All they care about is winning.

They know the score better than we do.
they don't actually have to really believe in the stuff, and if they did it surely will be swallowed by the mind goblins.
see war .
see deficits
see unconstitutional.
what do they all have in common?

They actually said these things were non-negotiable pre Obama

unless their guy wins.
than everything useful remains.
even threats tax the rich

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 06:58 PM (nqBYe)

14 I've lost all optimism. I'm in a dark, dark mood.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 06:59 PM (UOM48)

15 The inevitable utter destruction of civilization will annihilate every copy of Matt Damon's new frackin movie.



Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 29, 2013 07:00 PM (EZl54)

16 It's like the Germans in June 1945, being optimistic about the war because Berlin won't be bombed any more

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2013 07:00 PM (RRVBX)

17
The Gay Patriot? HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
His reason for optimism: Gay Men can get married in 9 states.

Posted by: Capt. Obvious at January 29, 2013 07:00 PM (oyQVv)

18 I do however admire gay patriot for his optimism. and his site is nice

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (nqBYe)

19 also, some lawyers out there might want to start using Writs of Mandamus against the Waiver King, Unclean Host of the Flies.

I can't be the only one to still be getting a kick out of that. Then again, I'm still waiting for those 100,000 new teachers to come and save the economy.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (QxSug)

20 Um can't he just say, "tax the rich more! they STILL aren't paying their fair share!!!"

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (GrtrJ)

21 here we go

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (60GaT)

22 "14 I've lost all optimism. I'm in a dark, dark mood.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 06:59 PM (UOM4 "

Meh. It's not so bad. The Universe still exists. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (CHnHn)

23 The good news is, there aren't many passengers left to demand a refund.

Posted by: Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (QKKT0)

24 I can't be the only one to still be getting a kick out of that. Then again, I'm still waiting for those 100,000 new teachers to come and save the economy.
Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (QxSug)


They fired me from teaching. Of course I told some libtards to get fucked. They didn't like that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 07:02 PM (l86i3)

25 I'm optimistic because he can't tax the rich since he's destroyed enough wealth, there aren't many left. And those that are left, are basically his donors who got richer from making donations to him.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:02 PM (QxSug)

26 16)

you talking about the German command, or the German people?

Posted by: traye at January 29, 2013 07:02 PM (egENL)

27 17

Make that 50 yo

Posted by: Anthony Kennedy at January 29, 2013 07:02 PM (60GaT)

28 Dems will say the rich need to pay more until they're paying 100% and even then they'll probably say the rich owe all those taxes they should have paid when it was below 100%.

Posted by: booger at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (HI6wa)

29 You have herpes but, don't worry, the first and worst outbreak is behind you.

You're wife is ugly and mean but, hey!, on the bright side, she'll probably never leave you.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (piMMO)

30 "24 I can't be the only one to still be getting a kick out of that. Then again, I'm still waiting for those 100,000 new teachers to come and save the economy.
Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (QxSug)


They fired me from teaching. Of course I told some libtards to get fucked. They didn't like that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 07:02 PM (l86i3) "

Diversity. Freedom of Speech. Tolerance.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (CHnHn)

31

I don't care anymore.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (FC8Yl)

32
18 I do however admire gay patriot for his optimism. and his site is nice
Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:01 PM (nqBYe)


He would probably prefer that you call his site "Fabulous"

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (GULKT)

33 Oldsailor, getting fired as a teacher usually requires some R.Kelly shit. Then again, depends on where you teach.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (QxSug)

34 you talking about the German command, or the German people?
Posted by: traye at January 29, 2013 07:02 PM (egENL)


That was back when wars were properly fought. There wasn't really a difference.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (l86i3)

35 11 joeindc,

I don't know how we here at the HQ could have mocked him any more mercilessly.

Fat lot of good that did us.

Which reminds me, her too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 07:04 PM (ccXZP)

36 i also want to tax the rich
rich actors.
rich directors
rich media heads.
Immelt
soros


I mean why can't we decide who rich are?

why are Rich only those they choose to be rich

whch really means rich will split and middle class will be hit with the trillions of debt they asked for.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:04 PM (nqBYe)

37 Obama runs Barter Town!

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 07:04 PM (MMC8r)

38 "29 You have herpes but, don't worry, the first and worst outbreak is behind you.

You're wife is ugly and mean but, hey!, on the bright side, she'll probably never leave you.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (piMMO) "

Well, the second one isn't so bad. Losing a lot of your stuff sucks.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:04 PM (CHnHn)

39 Yeah, man suddenly I feel LOTS better.....assuming there are elections in 2014 SCOAMF won't be able to get elected again...which would make sense since the next race is in 2016 and "legally" he can't run....

man thank God we raised those taxes and got a balanced budget in return...oh wait.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:04 PM (LRFds)

40 Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (FC8Yl)

Honey badger don't give a . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2013 07:05 PM (05fcj)

41 The good news is, is that we won't refund everyone back. Still made a profit.

Posted by: Titantic PR Department at January 29, 2013 07:05 PM (F6KtL)

42 buzzion, haha, yes 's IS fabulous, perhaps even more so marvelous .

but never boring.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:05 PM (nqBYe)

43 The inevitable utter destruction of civilization will annihilate every copy of Matt Damon's new frackin movie.

That and the Cylon invasion

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:05 PM (QTHTd)

44 we'll never be rid of 'tax the rich/no tax cuts for the rich'

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 07:05 PM (8sCoq)

45 As soon as Amnesty passes John Boner will have presided over Republicans:

Raising Taxes
Rewarding Illegal behavior and increasing Democrat votes by 15 million
Tanking the Republican brand even further among Republican party members
Breaking the Hastert rule on numerous occasions to pass bills with a majority of Democrat votes and a handful of liberal Republicans.

There is no reason to have the House, there is no reason to vote Republican until this fuck is removed as Speaker. There should be no optimism other than "when he finishes at least he won't cum in my eye...oh wait there it is in my eye at least it's not in my mouth"

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 29, 2013 07:05 PM (++kZl)

46

I like carrots.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 07:05 PM (E7Qlq)

47 You can have my pessimism when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 07:06 PM (ccXZP)

48 There's bad news and good news.

The bad news is I came in your mouth after I promised i wouldn't.

Oh, you noticed?

Well, anyway, the good news is if you give me another blow job right away, I won't come in your mouth again.

And if I do, there won't be as much.

Posted by: Warden at January 29, 2013 07:06 PM (HzhBE)

49 43 Zimreiel,

I dunno emotional teenagers in adult bodies on a quest to understand "god" in a hypersexualized angst....

I'm thinking they'll worship Matt Damon as a god....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:06 PM (LRFds)

50 Husband called me leaving work, on his way to his troop's Scout meeting.

An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA.

My always upbeat husband is beat-down.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (UOM48)

51 When Obama says suck, Boehner nods and gets on his knees.

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (F6KtL)

52 Hate to say it but I'm solidly in the F' it camp. Even after I heard Rubio talk so purty on Rush today...wanted to call in a say "What difference does it make anyway???"

Posted by: rukiddingme? at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (MbeEN)

53 I'm optimistic because Werner's divisions will reinforce our flank.

*downfall parody reference, I don't have the right name

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (QxSug)

54 dang.

I hate the last post was stepped on.

I was looking forward to the flame war.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (piMMO)

55 When the rolling brownouts come, it'll give everyone more quality time with their families.

So there's that.

Posted by: Warden at January 29, 2013 07:08 PM (HzhBE)

56 Oldsailor, getting fired as a teacher usually requires some R.Kelly shit. Then again, depends on where you teach.
Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:03 PM (QxSug)

Not true, Best the senior Math Dept Teacher by a avereage of 18 points with your sixth graders, rat out a administrator who tries to blackmail a probabtionary teacher, me, for perscription drugs. Then call the principal a liar after she changed a dozen or more students grades to reach a milestone. They pretty much don't want you around anymore.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 07:08 PM (l86i3)

57 45

i'm holding my judgment on the immigration thing until we see what takes shape in the House

recall they were the source of the opposition to Bush's plan. yeah, that was then, but we'll see.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:08 PM (60GaT)

58 i also want to tax the rich
rich actors.
rich directors
rich media heads.
Immelt
soros


I mean why can't we decide who rich are?

why are Rich only those they choose to be rich

whch really means rich will split and middle class will be hit with the trillions of debt they asked for.


Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:04 PM (nqBYe)



Funny how all of their tax breaks weren't touched and funny how the MFM didn't mention it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2013 07:08 PM (RRVBX)

59 Oh good, now I know where he is.

Posted by: General Hooker, responding to the news General Jackson rolled up on his flank at January 29, 2013 07:09 PM (F6KtL)

60 "50 Husband called me leaving work, on his way to his troop's Scout meeting.

An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA.

My always upbeat husband is beat-down.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (UOM4 "

Tolerance. Leftists are very virtuous.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:09 PM (CHnHn)

61 As an artisit who now has healthcare, I'm getting a kick out of a lot of these comments.

Posted by: CT Moron 2.2 at January 29, 2013 07:09 PM (Xf6HL)

62 For the moment, we still have Governors Walker and Snyder?

I keep getting refills?

My wife is getting treatment for her asthma?

I just began eating higher-fat foods again...including bacon?
Obama can't run for re-election?

My wife is awesome?
I have a telescope?
I don't have ass cancer?
I mean, theres reasons to be optimistic and all, but the political sphere doesn't hold a lot. Unless the Dems go full-tard and cost themselves a lot of Senate seats next year.

Posted by: CAC at January 29, 2013 07:09 PM (mZgAF)

63 I am pessimistically optimistic.

Posted by: Long Island at January 29, 2013 07:10 PM (hl8SI)

64 When the rolling brownouts come, it'll give everyone more quality time with their families.

So there's that.


****

You're car was involved in a hit and run accident. The good news is that you don't have full coverage insurance so, no deductible to pay!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:10 PM (piMMO)

65 There wasn't an obesity problem in Hitler's concentration camps.

That was definitely a plus.

Posted by: Warden at January 29, 2013 07:10 PM (HzhBE)

66 Well, they have less ammo now.

Posted by: General Burnside, Optimsm at Fredericksburg after three charges up the hill at January 29, 2013 07:10 PM (F6KtL)

67 Tree bark and leaf sandwiches are organic.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 29, 2013 07:10 PM (EZl54)

68 I am pessimistically optimistic.


****

The Stockdale Paradox.

Profound philosophy/strategy that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:10 PM (piMMO)

69 Wer ist 'Werner'???

Posted by: Stiener at January 29, 2013 07:11 PM (Dll6b)

70 ...just heard a stupid clip of ademocrat bitching that the 2nd Amendment only protects the citizen's right to own a musket. By that rationale, her indoor "plumbing" to be a piss pit, her lighting to be limited to candles, heating by wood burning fireplace where she cooks meals as well, she can expect her medical care to be limited to leaches bleeding her out, and by no means would she be offered abortions.

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 29, 2013 07:11 PM (MhA4j)

71 Funny how all of their tax breaks weren't touched and funny how the MFM didn't mention it.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2013 07:08 PM (RRVBX)

Uh hmm, i had read, they were kept nice and cozy, well you know all that campaigning for Obama should come with a very nice bonus.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:11 PM (nqBYe)

72 As an artisit who now has healthcare, I'm getting a kick out of a lot of these comments.

****

As a what?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:11 PM (piMMO)

73 scheiss

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 07:11 PM (Dll6b)

74 Wo ist...

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 29, 2013 07:12 PM (MhA4j)

75 45...There is no reason to have the House, there is no reason to vote Republican until this fuck is removed as Speaker.

Is that the only way we can get rid of Boehner? ...Lose the House?

I guess so.

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 07:12 PM (BZMZX)

76 As a what?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:11 PM (piMMO)

A bullshit artist.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 07:12 PM (l86i3)

77 "57 45

i'm holding my judgment on the immigration thing until we see what takes shape in the House

recall they were the source of the opposition to Bush's plan. yeah, that was then, but we'll see.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:08 PM (60GaT) "

Whatever gets passed should be linked to George Bush. We need to take as much credit as possible. And frankly, we deserve it. It was our initiative. Fuck the Democrats.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:13 PM (CHnHn)

78 A bullshit artist.


****

Awww!

That makes more sense.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:13 PM (piMMO)

79 Ah here it is, Steiner's assault will bring it under control...
that's why i'm optimistic

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at January 29, 2013 07:13 PM (QxSug)

80 Hildebeast is going to be on with Greta tonight.

I have an optimistic feeling Greta won't be tossing softballs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (UOM48)

81 Husband called me leaving work, on his way to his troop's Scout meeting.



An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA.



My always upbeat husband is beat-down.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (UOM4

I have found their answer to almost any dissent these days is threatening to kill , zimmerman, his family, breitbart, hell obscure video guy.


the death cult.

trustworthy with power.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (nqBYe)

82 So, is the new headline up at Drudge good news, or bad?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (piMMO)

83 I'm optimistic because the democrats couldn't hit an elephant at this ra...

Posted by: joeindc44 feels better already at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (QxSug)

84 "Whatever gets passed should be linked to George Bush. We need to take as much credit as possible."

not sure what exactly you're saying here. we can't out-immigration the Dems, and frankly it's bad policy regardless of the politics.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:15 PM (60GaT)

85 I was looking forward to the flame war.
Get lost skinny/fatty.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 29, 2013 07:15 PM (ORGYc)

86 I have an optimistic feeling Greta won't be tossing softballs.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (UOM4


Greta was pissed about the tards going after fox. I think shrillary will be yelling and suffering from another clot by the time thats over.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 07:15 PM (l86i3)

87 [...just heard a stupid clip of ademocrat bitching that the 2nd Amendment only protects the citizen's right to own a musket.]

Then the 1st amendment only protects the spoken word and print, not television or any other electronic communication.

And the 3rd amendment is limited to houses. Soldiers can take up residence in your apartment and drink up all your PBR and eat all your Hot Pockets whenever they please.

Posted by: Warden at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (HzhBE)

88
@53: "I'm optimistic because Werner's divisions will reinforce our flank.

*downfall parody reference, I don't have the right name"

Wenck.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (FsqHK)

89 70 Panzernashorn,

Offer to let them help you sign away your evil 2d Amendment rights....

*I am entitled to the most advanced sidearm or shoulder fired weapon available, personal artillery, and can outfit a naval vessel to engage in and follow all laws at sea pursuant to the issuing of a letter of marque."

Then go out and buy a fully auto M-8 AGS, Beretta M-93R, and outfit a PT boat to go engage in pirate retirement counseling.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (LRFds)

90 On a positive note, there are a lot of openings for new dukes and earls.

Posted by: Charles VI at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (QKKT0)

91

Gay patriot vs. Brokeback Arnold


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (Yk2LN)

92 "81 Husband called me leaving work, on his way to his troop's Scout meeting.



An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA.



My always upbeat husband is beat-down.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:07 PM (UOM4

I have found their answer to almost any dissent these days is threatening to kill , zimmerman, his family, breitbart, hell obscure video guy.


the death cult.

trustworthy with power.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (nqBYe) "

This.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (CHnHn)

93 I have an optimistic feeling Greta won't be tossing softballs.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (UOM4


Greta was pissed about the tards going after fox. I think shrillary will be yelling and suffering from another clot by the time thats over.

***

She has been getting a bit more ballsy these last few months.

Benghazi pissed her off.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (piMMO)

94

"On a positive note, there are a lot of openings for new dukes and earls."

You could be the duke of earl.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 07:17 PM (Yk2LN)

95 You shall not pass. http://is.gd/M4afk9

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 29, 2013 07:17 PM (QupBk)

96 So, is the new headline up at Drudge good news, or bad?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:14 PM (piMMO)


We'll have to see. Time will tell. How's that for committing? Actually i have no freaken idea. I mean who does. We really have no idea how much influence the Muslim Brotherhood has with the Military and the Military is the key. If they Muzzies have promised the Military the Keys to the Kingdom, then they will probably prevail. And If I were the Military in Egypt I wold not be so fast to cross the Muslim Brotherhood. They are still the majority in Egypt and they are ruthless.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:18 PM (9Bj8R)

97 82
It's like Syria-- scumbags on both sides. They don't get worse, they only get different.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 07:19 PM (MMC8r)

98 What does a Case of Optimism go for these days?

Five bucks, same as in town.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 29, 2013 07:19 PM (QupBk)

99 Re: the second amendment, note that the damn thing says it's for a well armed milita...self defense, eh? Not for hunting.

I was thinking the same thing recently, so fine, first amendment only applies to mechanical, horse powered printing presses. Sorry, new tech applies there to both.

Of course, my expectation of privacy under 4th amendment is not tech related (for now) and instead based on, um, basic observational tools from back then. Which is awesome.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:19 PM (QxSug)

100 She has been getting a bit more ballsy these last few months.

Benghazi pissed her off.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:16 PM (piMMO)

Greta is fair. However, if I ever commit a major felony, I want her in the seat next to me at my trial.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 07:19 PM (l86i3)

101 So, is the new headline up at Drudge good news, or bad?

Good news. Yes, these are Nika-rioters, Greens against the Blues. But anything that discredits the Muslim Brotherhood (=Hamas) is good news for the rest of us.

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:19 PM (QTHTd)

102 >>He will not longer be able to use that issue (i.e., “tax the rich) against Republicans as effectively as he did in the campaign.




Yeah, and he won't legally be able to run again either, but what difference at this point does that make?

....and that's the good news

Posted by: ontherocks at January 29, 2013 07:19 PM (aZ6ew)

103 The Left Coast will starve to death 3 hours before the rest of us do.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 29, 2013 07:19 PM (EZl54)

104
Moochelle has given up on the "Let's Move" thing. Maybe she's fixing to retire from public life. That would be cause for celebration.

Posted by: ALH at January 29, 2013 07:20 PM (eqV3Q)

105 "84 "Whatever gets passed should be linked to George Bush. We need to take as much credit as possible."

not sure what exactly you're saying here. we can't out-immigration the Dems, and frankly it's bad policy regardless of the politics.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:15 PM (60GaT) "

George Bush was a good man. And a good Christian. And a great man.


You, personally, don't agree with him. I get it. I didn't either (on this issue). But things change.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:20 PM (CHnHn)

106 I'm optimistic because they be firing bitches up in CNN, firing all them bitches out the door. Hide yo editor, hide your journalist, they be firing everyone up in CNN.

that drudge headline?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:20 PM (QxSug)

107 Re : Drudge .

It depends . Does the article provide an adress to ship free ammo ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 29, 2013 07:21 PM (BYxr7)

108 >Is that the only way we can get rid of Boehner? ...Lose the House?


primary his dumb ass and win

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 07:21 PM (8sCoq)

109 **An idiot commenter at WaPo said today that people need to go out and harm anyone working with the BSA.

My always upbeat husband is beat-down.**

this is the wage of not holding left wing abuses to account.

Bush should've RICO'd ACORN and the SEIU

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:21 PM (QxSug)

110 Bring back Newt and/or Delay

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:22 PM (QxSug)

111 In regards to the BSA, now the atheists are clamoring for the organization to drop "God" from the pledge.

'tards at WaPo were saying "There are no Muslims, Hindus or Jews in Scouting!!!111!!!" which is an absolute lie.

Our own troop has Jews and Hindus. There are Muslim troops.

However, we Must Forbid God from being mentioned in the Pledge.

I'm beginning to give up all hope for what's left of this country.

A fish rots from the head down (I'm looking at you, Barry, you damned fly-attracting "thing").

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:22 PM (UOM48)

112 Speaking of Drudge, check out the picture of Kerry...he looks like a demented psychopath.

Posted by: Mayday at January 29, 2013 07:22 PM (F3s39)

113 Soledad O'Brien has been canned from the 7-9am spot on CNN. I hate her. This makes me happy, happy happy.

Posted by: ALH at January 29, 2013 07:23 PM (eqV3Q)

114 And any instability in Egypt is bad for the West, Bad for Israel, and bad for the West. And much of this instability can be traced directly to some skinny dumb son of a bitch undermining Mubarak

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:23 PM (9Bj8R)

115 Taxing the rich is like trying to squeeze water from a stone. The unpleasant truth is that to cut our fiscal knot we're going to have to tax everyone, and all Americans are going to have to content themselves with fewer, more modest government services, smaller entitlements and a smaller military.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:24 PM (Hz1zc)

116 Strong career prospects in the corpse stacking and disposal fields.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 29, 2013 07:24 PM (EZl54)

117 Jane D'oh, with respect, the Pledge was a fascist oath from the get-go. The whole thing should be scrapped.

At the least you should have read "Liberal Fascism" on the topic of Bellamy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (QTHTd)

118 Hey if Egypt is falling apart and going to shit, down the old crapper, sure glad we sent them some more F-16s

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (9Bj8R)

119 I'm a Marxist.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 06:27 PM (Hz1zc)

Posted by: Jordaan at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (xz0nG)

120 i get the sense that Jordan sees himself as some objective straight-talker, when he's really just repeating bland CW

we all gots to sacrifice, yo.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (60GaT)

121 "111 In regards to the BSA, now the atheists are clamoring for the organization to drop "God" from the pledge.

'tards at WaPo were saying "There are no Muslims, Hindus or Jews in Scouting!!!111!!!" which is an absolute lie.

Our own troop has Jews and Hindus. There are Muslim troops.

However, we Must Forbid God from being mentioned in the Pledge.

I'm beginning to give up all hope for what's left of this country.

A fish rots from the head down (I'm looking at you, Barry, you damned fly-attracting "thing").

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:22 PM (UOM4 "

'god is Evil.' -- Atheist Insight

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (CHnHn)

122 108 >Is that the only way we can get rid of Boehner? ...Lose the House?
primary his dumb ass and win

--------

But his district is in Ohio...and they apparently love him there.

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (BZMZX)

123 I'm still trying the no anger thing as suggested on this very blog, but when I see BS like the "heckling" propaganda and the stalking of Mattera by that NYPD goon and I'm not allowed to pound my fists on the table, all that's left is melancholy. Optimism would be quite a stretch, although with some effort I could muster a half-hearted LIB.

Posted by: Xander Crews at January 29, 2013 07:27 PM (yuJ03)

124 "114 And any instability in Egypt is bad for the West, Bad for Israel, and bad for the West. And much of this instability can be traced directly to some skinny dumb son of a bitch undermining Mubarak

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:23 PM (9Bj8R) "

This.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:27 PM (CHnHn)

125 Please sir, I want some more...of your government bureaucracy in my bum

Posted by: Oliver Twist- What He Also Said, Volume Three at January 29, 2013 07:27 PM (F6KtL)

126 God isn't evil, but adding God to a fascist oath doesn't make God any more holy

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:27 PM (QTHTd)

127 i get the sense that Jordan sees himself as some objective straight-talker, when he's really just repeating bland CW

His stuffed animals listen to him in rapt attention.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 07:27 PM (MMC8r)

128 Taxing the rich is like trying to squeeze water from
a stone. The unpleasant truth is that to cut our fiscal knot we're
going to have to tax everyone, and all Americans are going to have to
content themselves with fewer, more modest government services, smaller
entitlements and a smaller military.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:24 PM (Hz1zc)

You do see he problem don' you?
Your side has been telling half the country only some "other" will be responsible for VOTING for goodies.
quite dishonest isn't it?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:28 PM (nqBYe)

129 "117 Jane D'oh, with respect, the Pledge was a fascist oath from the get-go. The whole thing should be scrapped.

At the least you should have read "Liberal Fascism" on the topic of Bellamy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (QTHTd) "

FOR FUCKS SAKE.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:28 PM (CHnHn)

130 I'm a Marxist.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 06:27 PM (Hz1zc)

Posted by: Jordaan at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (xz0nG)


The Three Stooges were better...

Posted by: The Un-Shemp at January 29, 2013 07:29 PM (Vk2pI)

131 Later, all.

God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 29, 2013 07:29 PM (CHnHn)

132 I'm not too optimistic about this movie I've never seen,but hey,Brian Dennehy's in it

Posted by: nog rock at January 29, 2013 07:29 PM (tdaam)

133 126
God isn't evil, but adding God to a fascist oath doesn't make God any more holy


Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:27 PM (QTHTd



So the Boy Scout oath is fascist?


I really, truly do give up. People like you and your fellow minions deserve to go down with this country. And go down, it will.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:29 PM (UOM48)

134 all those years of fascist indoctrination in elementary school

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:29 PM (60GaT)

135 The "fascist" Boy Scout oath:

On my honor, I will do my best

To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;

To help other people at all times;

To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (UOM48)

136 The progressives of the early 19th century came up with the pledge,that is true."Under God" wasn't added until the 50's.I don't find anything objectionable about the pledge but that's the truth.

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (9XBK2)

137 "126 God isn't evil, but adding God to a fascist oath doesn't make God any more holy"

I'm an Eagle Scout, but the idea of administering an oath to other people's children on a weekly basis makes my skin crawl. How can you expect an eleven year-old boy to understand what it means to give an oath, even a reasonable one, which the Boy Scout Oath is not?

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc)

138 In his first interview since the Pentagon opened ground combat jobs to women, the commandant of the Marine Corps said some occupations may ultimately remain closed if only a small number qualify.

The Marines will not lower physical standards for certain specialties, Gen. James Amos told USA TODAY. "We can't afford to lower standards," he said. "We can't make adjustments on what's required on the battlefield.

"That's not why America has a Marine Corps," he said.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (9Bj8R)

139 >But his district is in Ohio...and they apparently love him there.



Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 07:26 PM (BZMZX)

yeah, nobody votes out their Congressthing when it's in a position of power

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (8sCoq)

140 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:23 PM (9Bj8R)

An intelligent, less arrogant and ignorant president could have quietly pushed Mubarak out. It could have been done without much fuss, and the cold peace between Israel and Egypt would have survived.

Now? I would not be surprised by a hot war between Egypt and Israel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (GsoHv)

141 "A Case for Optimism?"

When freaking John Kerry can be confirmed as the Secretary of State with only _three_ Republican Senators bothering to dissent, there is no case for optimism.

There is, however, a case for torches and pitchforks. Plus primary challenges.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (gqT4g)

142
The goods news is that the champagne is chilled.

Posted by: R.M.S Titanic at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (mETGQ)

143 I'm a Marxist.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 06:27 PM (Hz1zc)

Posted by: Jordaan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (xz0nG)

144 The hell hey won't use "tax the rich" against us. Since when has the left ever been tethered to facts?

Posted by: Truman North, now with 73% more of the same at January 29, 2013 07:32 PM (vEbNc)

145 Well.....my head has exploded now. I hope they're happy.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at January 29, 2013 07:32 PM (MhA4j)

146 Jordon, what your side advocated for was stealing and not attaining freedom or the future self determination and responsibilty , Now they will owe govt for their future viability.

would you do this to your children? why would you do it to others children?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:32 PM (nqBYe)

147
@108: "Is that the only way we can get rid of Boehner? ...Lose the House?
primary his dumb ass and win "

Is that what happened? Did I just lose a primary? Quick, someone get me two candy-stripers, a fifth of bourbon, and a bottle of Nembutal.

Posted by: JFK in Parkland Hospital with a splitting headache at January 29, 2013 07:32 PM (FsqHK)

148 Jordan is the swiss army knife of concern trolls. He's in agreement on every issue, EXCEPT....

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 07:32 PM (MMC8r)

149 OMG "morally straight"

theocracy on the march

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:32 PM (60GaT)

150 135 Jane D'oh,

Yeah I'm really a member of the HY for having that oath in my heart...

hey you know what is *not* fascist at all?

http://youtu.be/wOtGr1JFCnE

Obama Youth...

just like the Boy Scouts eh?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:33 PM (LRFds)

151 Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc)

You are getting tedious.

Disagreeing with everything may work in high school debate club, but not around here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:33 PM (GsoHv)

152
I'm an Eagle Scout, but the idea of administering an oath to other people's children on a weekly basis makes my skin crawl. How can you expect an eleven year-old boy to understand what it means to give an oath, even a reasonable one, which the Boy Scout Oath is not?
=================================================

Does Obama killing people with drones overseas make your skin crawl as well?

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:33 PM (F6KtL)

153 morons still don't know what fascist means. Somehow, the German Socialist Worker's Party and its ideology is boiled down to patriotism. Right? That's what WWII was about? Morons.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:33 PM (QxSug)

154 I'm an Eagle Scout, but the idea of administering an
oath to other people's children on a weekly basis makes my skin crawl.
How can you expect an eleven year-old boy to understand what it means to
give an oath, even a reasonable one, which the Boy Scout Oath is not?

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc



My son is an Eagle Scout.


You claim to own every gun ever made, and now you're an Eagle Scout? If you weren't intelligent enough to know what the oath meant, you didn't deserve your Eagle. And the pledge makes your skin crawl?


Why don't you crawl back under a bridge.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 07:34 PM (UOM48)

155 would you do this to your children? why would you do it to others children?

He thinks the East Bloc looked like a cool way to live. In other words, he's one of Lenin's useful idiots.

Posted by: Charles VI at January 29, 2013 07:34 PM (QKKT0)

156 but whatever, if the oath is too much for the fairer members of our sex, then so be it. They can join the Oprah book club.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:34 PM (QxSug)

157
@126: "God isn't evil"
We respectfully disagree.

Posted by: 99.999% of the animals, and everyone on earth not related to Noah at January 29, 2013 07:34 PM (FsqHK)

158 I would not be surprised by a hot war between Egypt and Israel.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (GsoHv)


There is so much going down the crapper in the Middle East because of lack of US Leadership and the policies of that dumb SOB commie bastard in the White House, that almost anything could happen at anytime

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:34 PM (9Bj8R)

159 So the Boy Scout oath is fascist?

You said "the pledge". The Boy Scout Oath is something else again. I thought you meant the Pledge of Allegiance, since you said "pledge" in your original post. My mistake.

I really, truly do give up. People like you and your fellow minions deserve to go down

I deserve to be corrected when I misread something that you mislabeled, true, but saying I deserve to "go down" for it is overstating the case a bit.

Sorry.

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:35 PM (QTHTd)

160 Sock fail

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 29, 2013 07:35 PM (QKKT0)

161 "morons still don't know what fascist means."

Or Marxist, Socialist or Communist. This community uses them simply as epithets, not as denotation.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:35 PM (Hz1zc)

162 watch me shimmy. watch me shake
under a canopy of amorphous clouds

Posted by: house built on sand at January 29, 2013 07:35 PM (I88Jc)

163 I would not be surprised by a hot war between Egypt and Israel.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (GsoHv)

Feature, not bug.

Posted by: Jordan's Messiah at January 29, 2013 07:35 PM (MMC8r)

164 Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:33 PM (F6KtL)
1 this name is a lie

Posted by: CAC at January 29, 2013 07:35 PM (mZgAF)

165 137 Jordan,

http://youtu.be/wOtGr1JFCnE

How Indeed?

Hey you know what?

I knew what the oath was.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:36 PM (LRFds)

166 153

of course there's an obvious line between patriotism and a very particular, intense ethnic nationalism, but i've never really bought into the argument that Nazism was left-wing, especially not on the basis of their name (check out the decidedly non-democratic Democratic Republics in the Cold War for another example)

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:36 PM (60GaT)

167 "Wer ist" = who is

"Wo" auf Deutsch = where


Keine Rosen ohne Dornen...........

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 07:36 PM (Dll6b)

168 @122 - Wheatie, he's from West Chester, just NE of Cincinnati and it's pretentious RINO as you can get.

Boehner will be around for a while.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at January 29, 2013 07:36 PM (oLXEb)

169 ack, whatever.

anyway lets go after the rich , good and hard and when they run out of funds in a few months because it certainly won't last long. we will move to the middle class, It's not like they actually should own anything anyway . more than another. that will last a few more mths because jobs will be scarce after the rich are broke or flee.

still i want to be sure every Rich will be on the fairness list to be taken from.

This is somehow NOT fair , just choosing those yu dislike for confinscation of their asets.

and awfully familiar at the same time.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (nqBYe)

170 137...I'm an Eagle Scout...

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc)


I find this really hard to believe.

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (BZMZX)

171
Or Marxist, Socialist or Communist. This community uses them simply as epithets, not as denotation.
=====================================================

You mean like how Dems use rich, white, big business, capitalism as epithets? No way. NO. WAY.

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (F6KtL)

172 Jordan, lassen Sie sich umficken

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (Dll6b)

173 Don't worry, Jordan, I'm a radical libertarian/conservative and I get abused around here too. Maybe we two should just leave?

Posted by: shit head at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (ORGYc)

174 Jordan

Open your mouth real wide for my elephantine dong

Posted by: The Second Amendment at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (lD8ju)

175
#104 I believe Michelle's dropping of the "Let's Move" program is being done in order to gier a serious and more dignified public personna.
This is in preparation for her running for the White House in 2016.
I am convinced they are going to try this. It's the easiest way to give Obama a 3rd term.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2013 07:38 PM (GoIUi)

176 Just let the stupid turd troll die like an unattended potted plant.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 29, 2013 07:38 PM (aZ6ew)

177 Boehner is not a RINO guyz

although, if he caves on immigration i will no longer object to calling him that

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:38 PM (60GaT)

178 137...I'm an Eagle Scout...



Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (Hz1zc)



I find this really hard to believe.

Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (BZMZX)


Jordan is also a Miss Universe finalist.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 29, 2013 07:38 PM (QKKT0)

179 When amnesty gets passed and Pelosi gets the speakership back in two years. I hope she takes that ridiculously oversized novelty gavel she used to usher in obamacare and dents Boehners fucking forehead. There, now you have something to cry about.

Stay thirsty bitches!!!!!!!!

Posted by: wattyler1381 at January 29, 2013 07:38 PM (F2Vrz)

180 Things are looking pretty good I've got Jackson coming up in reserve .

Oh Shit !

Lee overheard at Chancellorsville .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (USjX1)

181 158
I would not be surprised by a hot war between Egypt and Israel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:31 PM (GsoHv)


That should be interesting.
With Egypt swirling the toilet along the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance".

Posted by: R.M.S Titanic at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (mETGQ)

182 That should be interesting. With Egypt swirling the toilet along the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance".

Or training.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (QKKT0)

183 JDP any euro party with "democratic" in it's name is left wing.

You know how you can tell the right wing European parties? The American press hates them.

Posted by: Truman North, now with 73% more of the same at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (vEbNc)

184 flame war

gets rid of the bad blood

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (8sCoq)

185 I got as far as First Class, which means that I got the first-aid merit badge but not much else.

Probably "First Class" should be renamed given that the highest rank there is actually "Eagle"

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (QTHTd)

186 I only destabilized North Africa to tie up Israel from attacking Iran.

Posted by: Jordan's Messiah at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (MMC8r)

187 I am incredibly optimistic that I can eat this entire cherry pie.


Obligatory - http://youtu.be/OjyZKfdwlng



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (Gk3SS)

188 I believe Michelle's dropping of the "Let's Move" program is being done in order to gier a serious and more dignified public personna.
This is in preparation for her running for the White House in 2016.
I am convinced they are going to try this. It's the easiest way to give Obama a 3rd term.

***

She won't run. She doesn't even like D.C. from what I can tell. Besides, she'll be in very high demand at society functions and speaking engagements for the rest of her life. Lots of OOOHS! and AHHHHS! ahead for her.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (piMMO)

189
1 this name is a lie
=============
She has big ones.

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (F6KtL)

190 Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:37 PM (F6KtL)

CAC says your name is a lie.

Until you provide evidence that it is true, I will not read any of your comments and I am going to hold my breath and stamp my feet!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (GsoHv)

191
>>>the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance".

Nonsense. They check the goats oil levels twice a day!

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (Kabs6)

192 "of course there's an obvious line between patriotism and a very particular, intense ethnic nationalism, but i've never really bought into the argument that Nazism was left-wing, especially not on the basis of their name (check out the decidedly non-democratic Democratic Republics in the Cold War for another example)"

William Shirer, in his tome, does a good job of explaining how the party once included socialists and supporters of labor, but those elements were purged from the party in the 1920s. Increasingly, the party discarded ideology and became a functional means to power for Hitler and his clique.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (Hz1zc)

193 George Wallace got around the two-term limit by getting his wife elected after him---but that was Alabama in 1970


look away, look away, look away, Dixie-land

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 07:41 PM (Dll6b)

194 Will Hillary be wearing her special X-Ray glasses that allowed her to see Huma's poont?

Posted by: TexasJew at January 29, 2013 07:41 PM (lD8ju)

195 184 Jones in CO,

I need to find my flak jacket....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:41 PM (LRFds)

196 >She won't run. She doesn't even like D.C. from what I can tell.


plus the 40 or 50 lbs of lobster she horks down every week couldn't be hidden from the public for long

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (8sCoq)

197 cherry pie?

perk?

i also like cherry bomb. (tune)

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (nqBYe)

198 I'm going to be Minority Leader for years and years to come!

Posted by: J. Boehner at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (BeSEI)

199 Posted by: R.M.S Titanic at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (mETGQ)

Well, they are getting new Abrams and F16s, so it's going to take a while before the new stuff breaks.

Thank you Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (GsoHv)

200 That should be interesting.
With Egypt swirling the toilet along the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance".
Posted by: R.M.S Titanic at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (mETGQ)

182 That should be interesting. With Egypt swirling the toilet along the Arab military motto of "We don't do maintenance".

Or training.
Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 29, 2013 07:39 PM (QKKT0)

yeah I am sure, but with today's technology, missiles and all: innocent people will still die in Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (9Bj8R)

201 Jordan is Palin Steele on ritalin.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (MMC8r)

202 i also like cherry bomb. (tune)

***

Me too.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (piMMO)

203 **but i've never really bought into the argument that Nazism was left-wing**

read a book.

try Robert Conquest Dragons of Expectations

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:43 PM (QxSug)

204 Hooker was the general who probably said, "Oh shit" at Chancellorsville


unless you mean the whole Jackson getting shot, and stuff like that

Posted by: Steiner at January 29, 2013 07:43 PM (Dll6b)

205 The longer BO is in office, the less optimistic I become. I may need to become a LIV type for the next 3 years - and try and ignore all of the disgusting policies BO dems are pushing out onto our nation.
I give our elected conservatives a lot of credit for just continuing to fight. It gets really old - mostly because of the constant propaganda from the lamestream media. ughy

Posted by: carolina at January 29, 2013 07:43 PM (JebKA)

206 Jordan is Palin Steele on ritalin.

He does make the same pathetic cloying attempts to ingratiate himself on non-political threads.

Pretty sad, really.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2013 07:43 PM (YpSvP)

207 Plenty of television producers would surely love to duplicate the success of the prolific comedy creator Chuck Lorre, and someone (or someones) in Belarus may have figured out how to do it — by ripping off his hit CBS series “The Big Bang Theory” in its entirety.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 29, 2013 07:43 PM (e8kgV)

208 you know, based on my extensive navel gazing, I've never really bought into the crazy idea that fire can weaken steel because it just seems to me that that fire isn't hot enough to melt steel.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:44 PM (QxSug)

209 She has big ones.
Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 29, 2013 07:40 PM (F6KtL)
Ok.
And I am mayor of Awesomeville.

Posted by: CAC at January 29, 2013 07:44 PM (mZgAF)

210 I am optimistic I will one day live to see a whole fuck ton of Obama voters screaming "OMG I didn't vote for this" and be able to say "That makes me get an erection say it again please."

I have already been able to do it twice, on our taxes going up.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 29, 2013 07:44 PM (++kZl)

211 : Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

yeah it's fun.

also wild nights.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:44 PM (nqBYe)

212 mussolini was the che of his day.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:44 PM (QxSug)

213
>>i also like cherry bomb. (tune)<<

Mellencamp or The Runaways?

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 07:45 PM (Kabs6)

214 >i also like cherry bomb. (tune)


Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:42 PM (nqBYe)

are we talkin' Joan Jett?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW_HCdU-qEY

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 07:45 PM (8sCoq)

215 omg Jordan gets something right

i disagree that ideology was "discarded" though. it's just that socialism was never central to it.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:45 PM (60GaT)

216 R, Conquest also wrote harvest of sorrow?

also a good read.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:45 PM (nqBYe)

217 They used the wife template once, I don't see why they won't try it again.

People should not make the mistake of humanizing these people. The Obamas are chess pieces being moved by powers behind them. If they want Michelle to run for elective office, they'll decide that. She won't. She's their tool. Just like her "husband."

Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2013 07:46 PM (BeSEI)

218 Yeah steiner , I meant the Jackson blue on blue thing ..
Sometimes I ain't as cute as I think I am .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 29, 2013 07:46 PM (USjX1)

219 Jones in CO, i think mellencamp?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:46 PM (nqBYe)

220 Well, they are getting new Abrams and F16s, so it's going to take a while before the new stuff breaks.

Bad news, they have the weapons.

Good news, they suck as soldiers.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 07:47 PM (4gFWN)

221 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gym0tgA5O9c

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:47 PM (nqBYe)

222 joeindc: i'll grant that fascism/Nazism were certainly radical in their approach, which distinguishes them from traditionalism. but i don't see how you place them on the left unless you view all authoritarianism/totalitarianism as necessarily left-wing, which i don't.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:47 PM (60GaT)

223 now i'm going to check out "runaways"

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:48 PM (nqBYe)

224 >Jones in CO, i think mellencamp?


Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:46 PM (nqBYe)

yeah, not a fan. But Joan Jett kicks ass.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 07:48 PM (8sCoq)

225 reading things is fun: from the museum of communism website:

Hitler's economic policies extensively increased the regulation of foreign trade and agriculture, imposed widespread price controls, initiated large public works programs, and copied the Soviets' predilection for N-year Plans. As David Schoenbaum pointedly remarks in his Hitler's Social Revolution, "A generation of Marxist and neo-Marxist mythology notwithstanding, probably never in peacetime has an ostensibly capitalist economy been directed as non- and even anti-capitalistically as the Germany economy between 1933 and 1939." Summing up the situation of business under the Nazis, Schoenbaum observes: "Wages, prices, working conditions, allocation of materials: none of these were left to managerial decision, let alone to the market... Investment was controlled, occupational freedom was dead, prices were fixed, every major sector of the economy was, at worst, a victim, at best, an accomplice of the regime. As a general rule, business, particularly big business, declined or flourished in direct proportion to its willingness to collaborate."

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:49 PM (QxSug)

226

Mumbles Menino is giving his state of the city address right now.

He sounds like a tard. And he looks half dead. Which is nice.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 07:49 PM (vyPsz)

227 runaways are interesting. haha

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:49 PM (nqBYe)

228 161 "morons still don't know what fascist means."

Or Marxist, Socialist or Communist. This community uses them simply as epithets, not as denotation.
Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:35 PM (Hz1zc)


BTW what is it with left wing shit stains who all say "you dont even know what Fascism or socialism is" and then when you give them the textbook fucking definition with god damn pictures cut outs and a fucking venn diagram to Italy in the 30s and the United States during World War 2 they get all fucking google eyed and look at you like you fucking grew horns out of your head

You dumb fuck we know what those terms mean, they are easily fucking researched even if you did not know. It takes two fucking seconds. Government control of the means of production or Government run "private" industry. Wow look at me I am like a fucking genius now aren't I you dumb piece of shit.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 29, 2013 07:49 PM (++kZl)

229 'Paper and Fire' is the best thing Mellencamp ever did.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 07:49 PM (Kabs6)

230 Jones in CO, i'll go check that out now.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:50 PM (nqBYe)

231 "i disagree that ideology was "discarded" though. it's just that socialism was never central to it."

I find it fascinating how the Nazi party represented so many things to so many people in different parts of the country. I've increasingly come to believe that while Hitler and his inner circle never discarded ideology, they made a pragmatic decision to say or do whatever needed to gain power. I'm paraphrasing, but I believe it was Goebbels who said all they had to do was win one election and they would never, never, give up power until their dead bodies were carried out of the Reichstag. One of the things that makes the Third Reich so interesting is that the Nazi revolution was unique, in that the decision was made after the Beer Hall Putsch that it would be achieved by constitutional means.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:50 PM (Hz1zc)

232

"Disagreeing with everything may work in high school debate club, but not around here."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 07:50 PM (Yk2LN)

233 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 07:47 PM (4gFWN)

Ever been to Israel?

It's the size of New Jersey and has 7,000,000 people. Even successful wars are crushing.

They'll win it, but at great cost.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:50 PM (GsoHv)

234 obama was bragging in one of his blowjobs- urh I mean interviews the other night about what a great job he did in Egypt. It's on tape. We gotta shove that down his fucking throat and make him choke on it--figuratively I mean.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 07:50 PM (9Bj8R)

235 192 Jordan,

Yeah...hey I've never seen that before....

http://youtu.be/wOtGr1JFCnE

Obama Youth

Hey tiger the Nazis were socialists in a multitude of ways.....


Hitler acknowledged that the
Nazi party was ``socialist'' and that its enemies were the
``bourgeoisie'' and the ``plutocrats'' (the rich). Like Lenin Stalin, Hitler spiked trade unions, and put his own
state-run labor organizations in place. Like the Soviets, Hitler hunted down
and exterminated rival leftist factions (such as the Communists). Like Soviets, Hitler waged unrelenting war against small business.

The nazis regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so often. Karl Marx believed likewise. In his essay, ``On
the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would
strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation. Hitler put Marx's
theory to work in the death camps.Hey what the hell does Sven know?

You are just a hater!

"yeah"

Is Fascism a socialist offshoot more than a bastardization of free market economics?

Franklin D. Roosevelt (about Il Duce the original)

I am much interested and deeply impressed by what he has accomplished and by his evidenced honest purpose of restoring Italy and seeking to prevent general European trouble.


Adolf Hitler,

We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system
for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair
salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to
wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

Adolf Hitler,

Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?
Joseph Paul Goebbels,

As socialists, we are opponents of the Jews, because we see, in the Hebrews, the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation’s goods
National Socialist Party of Germany (NAZI),

We ask that government undertake the obligation above all of
providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning
a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash
with the interests of the community, but must take place within the confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: … an end
to the power of financial interest. We demand profit sharing in big
business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We
demand … the greatest possible consideration of small business in the
purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments. In order to
make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment
of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the
government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of
public education…. We demand the education at government expense of
gifted children of poor parents…. The government must undertake the
improvement of public health — by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor — by
the greatest possible support for all groups concerned with the
physical education of youth. [W]e combat the … materialistic spirit
within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:51 PM (LRFds)

236 ...actually, the version he did with Living Colour in 1990 at the Black Rock Coalition Benefit is the best thing he ever did.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 07:51 PM (Kabs6)

237

In the audience for Menino are political hacks and party hacks.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 07:51 PM (vyPsz)

238 >>He sounds like a tard. And he looks half dead. Which is nice.


Posted by: soothsayer at January 29, 2013 07:49 PM (vyPsz)


He makes Joe Biden sound like Richard Burton

Posted by: ontherocks at January 29, 2013 07:51 PM (aZ6ew)

239 I doubt jordan has a girlfriend as hot or funny as I do

Posted by: palin steele at January 29, 2013 07:51 PM (jVAw4)

240 ooooh, Jones, i remember them my sisster used to listen to their' crimson and clover.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:51 PM (nqBYe)

241 see I think the problem is that a lot of people look at the left and think hippy ass flower children wallowing in their own filth and not union thugs and power brokering, basically totalitarians. See also all the flower children in America right now getting SWAT teams rammed down their ass for selling raw milk.

So, yeah, neither the USSR or Germany were leftists. They were totalitarians.

More from the MoC:

"There is strong evidence that Hitler planned a much more radical economic program after victory in World War II: forcible deportation of eastern Europe's peoples, re-colonization of the depopulated territory by Germans, establishment of a Stalin-style slave labor empire for public works, imposition of slavery for inferior races, and so on. Stanley Payne explains that Hitler's goals and situation required him to "invert the Leninist-Stalinist priority of internal revolution." That is, while Lenin and Stalin planned to first impose socialism on the Soviet Union, then turn to foreign conquest, Hitler planned to make his conquests first, then impose the more radical Nazi economic and political policies. "

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:52 PM (QxSug)

242 Hey Jordan you know what Adam Smith had to say about some of your ideas?

Adam Smith,

The statesman who should attempt to direct private people in what manner
they ought to employ their capitals, would … assume an authority which
could safely be trusted, not only to no single person, but to no council
or senate whatever, and which would nowhere be so dangerous as in the
hands of a man who had folly and presumption enough to fancy himself fit
to exercise it.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:52 PM (LRFds)

243 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 07:50 PM (Yk2LN)

A classic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:52 PM (GsoHv)

244 Anyway the Boy Scouts are interesting in that they followed the same pattern as the Jüdischer Wanderbund Blau-Weiss, and the Hitlerjugend. All these groups assume that boys on the brink of adolescence require directed activities, role models, physical exertion, and a break from the chaos of real life. And on this much they are right.

The Boy Scouts were really meant for Anglos at first, like the Wanderbund was meant for Jews and the Jugend for assholes. Baden-Powell assumed that non-Anglos wouldn't be interested. That's why there's this talk about "God" but not exactly what "God" means - even Catholics were invited. (*gasp*!)

Whether they still revere one God or not doesn't matter; they're not the government, they can revere Vishnu for all I care.

The Boy Scouts are not fascist and again, I'm sorry for misunderstanding the original comment; they're an inoculation against fascism.

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 07:53 PM (QTHTd)

245 garret listening to it now. Paper in fire

still wild nights IS fun. i really like the woman singer.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:53 PM (nqBYe)

246 sven, there you go again, reading...

But to American Lefties, hearing (ok, reading) the Taliban and Al Qaeda say that we are doing this to establish a Caliphate rang on death ears. er eyes.

No, it was because we're mean.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:54 PM (QxSug)

247
A Case for Optimism?
The bad news: We only have $217.00 remaining in our coffers.
The goods news: At least we don't owe $16,000,000,000,000.00

http://tinyurl.com/b69lrq7

Posted by: Zimbabwe at January 29, 2013 07:54 PM (mETGQ)

248
.....your mouth......is my perspective of optimism....

Posted by: Hill Country Texan at January 29, 2013 07:54 PM (ki5oJ)

249
Adolf Hitler,

Gold is not neccesary. I have no interest in gold. We will build a solid state, without an ounce of gold behind it. Anyone who sells above the set prices, let him be marched off to a concentration camp. That’s the bastion of money.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 07:55 PM (LRFds)

250
>>>i really like the woman singer.

Crystal Taliefero. She wails.
The chick who plays fiddle on that album is awesome. Lisa Germano / Germino...I forget.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 07:55 PM (Kabs6)

251 well arguing whether Hitler was a free-marketeer kind of misses the point. of course he wasn't.

the question is which was more central to Nazism: government regulation of the economy or, you know, the other thing. and i think the answer's pretty clear.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 07:55 PM (60GaT)

252 garret agreee, i like it.
thanks i''l write it down.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 07:56 PM (nqBYe)

253 Scouting was good for me, but if I had a son, I'd probably not let him get involved in Scouting unless I was an Assistant Scoutmaster in his troop. Scouting is social, teaches valuable skills, encourages self-development and rewards effort, but the nationalistic and religious overtones are troubling, as are recent revelations about sexual abuse.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:56 PM (Hz1zc)

254 PJ Orourke joke about the old south:

Sheriff going around town, walks up to Old Man Smithers and asks about his sons.

"blah blah blah, all 8 of them doing what they do."

Sheriff: Well, they're all good democrats, right, and they'll vote in the upcoming election?

Smithers: well, yup, all except Thomas, that boy done took to reading.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:56 PM (QxSug)

255 The Nazis were just an oompah band that got out of control.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 07:56 PM (MMC8r)

256
From the linked article....

"With Obama’s big-government policies at odds with the prevailing ethos of the American people and the Democrat offering little in the way of a growth agenda, conservatives once again have the opportunity to make the case for real reform."

I no longer believe Americans are against big-government. Conservatives still say Americans are for smaller government but I think demographics and shoddy education have changed that for the worse.

But I also believe Jerry Springer and Maury are more of a reflection of 'real America' than Dr. Phil and Oprah. I think the country has fallen that far.

Posted by: Stateless Infidels at January 29, 2013 07:57 PM (AC0lD)

257 253

Nobody asked.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 07:57 PM (MMC8r)

258 Ever been to Israel?

Not making light of it, just pointing out a verifiable fact.

No doubt in my mind the Israelis will kick their ass.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 07:58 PM (4gFWN)

259 Re: 251
yeah, I got nothing. Fire won't melt steel.
Let sven do his thing with words, arranging them into "sentences" to make "points" about "facts" in "history."

I just reread the stuff I read earlier and this was chilling "Stanley Payne explains that Hitler's goals and situation required him to "invert the Leninist-Stalinist priority of internal revolution." That is, while Lenin and Stalin planned to first impose socialism on the Soviet Union, then turn to foreign conquest, Hitler planned to make his conquests first, then impose the more radical Nazi economic and political policies. "

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 07:59 PM (QxSug)

260 as are recent revelations about sexual abuse.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:56 PM (Hz1zc)

Wow.

You're checking everything off. At least you are methodical.

And boring.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 07:59 PM (GsoHv)

261 "You're checking everything off. At least you are methodical. "

I left out Scouting's institutionalized homophobia, but I figured it wouldn't fly with this crowd.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:00 PM (Hz1zc)

262 I wonder, cause my scout masters were all cool. An Alton Brown type head guy filled with tales of America's manifest destiny days on the range and a few ex-green berets.

As a future parent, I am sure that the future wife's gaydar detector will alert us to any pedos, eh?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 08:00 PM (QxSug)

263 My dog has no nose!
He smells like an internet Eagle Scout troop-master!!!

Posted by: adolf hilter at January 29, 2013 08:00 PM (ORGYc)

264 Scouting is social, teaches valuable skills,
encourages self-development and rewards effort, but the nationalistic
and religious overtones are troubling, as are recent revelations about
sexual abuse.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 07:56 PM (Hz1zc)

Exactly how i feel about teachers these days. with exception of encouraging and rewarding responsibility , and really religious overtones with mother gaia.
funny how creeps can find children no matter where they are

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:01 PM (nqBYe)

265
>>>I left out Scouting's institutionalized homophobia, but I figured it wouldn't fly with this crowd.<<<

No way they are homophobic with gay outfits like that.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:01 PM (Kabs6)

266 One of the things that makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jerden at January 29, 2013 08:01 PM (EZl54)

267 Did Jordan say he WAS an eagle scout, or DID an eagle scout?

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 08:02 PM (MMC8r)

268 i should have kept it simple as charliebrown did.

damnit

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:02 PM (nqBYe)

269 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 07:58 PM (4gFWN)

It came out snotty, but I really was just asking*. I don't think you are making light of it. I have a bunch of cousins in the army who will bear the brunt of any war, so while my respect for the Israeli military is significant, I also see the other side.

*No offense intended -- you're one of the good guys around here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 08:02 PM (GsoHv)

270 259

i don't get why this is such a wacky idea? it's pretty much historical consensus that the Nazis were on the extreme right, and not because everything bad has to be right-wing or anything like that. i don't think it discredits conservatism to acknowledge this as that's not the same thing.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:02 PM (60GaT)

271 Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:00 PM (Hz1zc)

I love when you pass off bullshit opinions as some kind of authoritative fact.

Tell us more Dr Science!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 08:02 PM (4gFWN)

272 The Scouts' tolerance of kiddy diddling is well documented:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/10/01 /boy-scouts-to-report-pedophiles-missed-previously/1605653/

That's the part where Jordan has a point.

Posted by: zimriel at January 29, 2013 08:02 PM (QTHTd)

273 246 JoeinDC,

Yeah it is the damnedest thing...it is almost like Hitler, the Nazis as whole, FDR, Hoover, Keynes everyone misunderstood that the Nazis were pro business Adam Smith loving hyper-nationalist right wingers.....?

Anyway in this nation Fascism has ALWAYS had a SMILEY FACE unless of course you were lucky enough to be the guy who got beaten up and sent to prison for not charging enough to iron shirts comrade well omelette and eggs.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:03 PM (LRFds)

274
Ever been to Israel?

No. I'd go in a heartbeat if they'd let me shoot jihadis and/or palis, though.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:03 PM (Kabs6)

275 anti-homophobia is a great moral balm for the left. There's hardly any of them around but a vocal minority. You can be all self-righteous about your support of them because you watch Will and Grace. And since anti-sodomy and anti-gay bigotry are a basic part of western society (I know, but we aren't in Rome, Greece, or Afghanistan) since forever, you can use it to blast down the pillars of the society you hate so much.

"Oh, yeah, I really liked George Washington, except he was a rampant homophobe. You can say what you will about Stalin, but at least he was open minded to gays."

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 08:04 PM (QxSug)

276 270 JDP,

Well because Benito Mussolini was a left winger that was lamented as lost to Lenin?

Was FDR "really a Republican?"

FDR was don't look now a fascist.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:04 PM (LRFds)

277

homophobia - an irrational fear of sameness.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2013 08:05 PM (Yk2LN)

278 you know what i have found,.
bad people that like kids go to places that have kids around

like elmo. or the ice cream man.

therefore hollywood, and all ice cream drivers must certainly be peds ,

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:05 PM (nqBYe)

279 I feel I should point out....
Obviously most gay man are not pedophiles, however
you should use the same caution as letting girls hang out with an adult straight men. There is nothing wrong about protecting your children around people you do not know.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:05 PM (dDD3H)

280 Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:03 PM (Kabs6)

Well, the food's great and the women are hot.

And while I am Jewish, it is amazing to see not just the Jewish religious sights, but the many Christian ones. Walking on the same cobblestones that Jesus walked 2000 years ago is amazing no matter what you may believe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 08:06 PM (GsoHv)

281 fcol. they must have different text books!

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:06 PM (nqBYe)

282 the things that makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jurdon at January 29, 2013 08:06 PM (EZl54)

283 sven, you're referencing Adam Smith which is irrelevant to this in my view. something can be right-wing without having much use for capitalism.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:07 PM (60GaT)

284 That's the part where Jordan has a point.

I know, he's very intellectually consistent. He was all, like, upset and shit over Menendez' banging underage Dominican prostitutes.

Liberals, always for the little guy girls.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 08:07 PM (4gFWN)

285
Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:05 PM (dDD3H)

Just come from Jawa?
If not, go read Rusty's piece re:BSA.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:07 PM (Kabs6)

286 things that makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jordin at January 29, 2013 08:07 PM (EZl54)

287 "I wonder, cause my scout masters were all cool."

I still idolize my Scoutmaster, Glenn McCracken, may he rest in peace, but one of my ASMs is now the mayor of Birmingham, AL and is doing his best to keep that city the festering, spouting sewer of a third-world disaster area it has become.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:07 PM (Hz1zc)

288 You can say what you will about Stalin, but at least he was open minded to gays.

You know nothing of my work.

Posted by: Ioseb Besarionis dze Dzhugashvili at January 29, 2013 08:08 PM (QupBk)

289 makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jorden at January 29, 2013 08:08 PM (EZl54)

290 **it's pretty much historical consensus that the Nazis were on the extreme right, and not because everything bad has to be right-wing or anything like that. **

because you are morons. Not JDP, maybe, I don't know. But I mean they were totalitarians, they were a new breed of socialists. The problem with socialism at the turn of the last century was that the petit borgouis didn't want to do it, so facsism was the latest variant to pop up in an attempt to be cool.

patriotism is not right wing or left wing. you know?

USSR and US and Iraq and Sweden all have parades and shit.

Of course, there are certain lefties in the west who despise dominant western militaries, and they go peacenik. Just as there are conservative religious groups that are peacenik.

So again, if your mind is broken and you think that republicans=patriot=right wing therefore nazi=patriot=right wing, what can I say?

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 08:08 PM (QxSug)

291
@188: "Lots of OOOHS! and AHHHHS! ahead for her."

That's highly personal and private between Secretary Clinton and me, thank you very much.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at January 29, 2013 08:08 PM (FsqHK)

292 Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:02 PM (60GaT)

It is by no means historical consensus that the Nazis were extreme right.

The left's manipulation of the people was no less sophisticated than the right's, and in most ways it worked better.

The fact that Hitler used nationalism as a tool does not diminish his socialist cred.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 08:08 PM (GsoHv)

293 the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jurrdin at January 29, 2013 08:09 PM (EZl54)

294 Just come from Jawa?

I have been out for a few hours. Sorry to beat a dead horse.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:09 PM (dDD3H)

295
Well, the food's great and the women are hot.

The latter is one of the reasons I haven't gone.
I have zero defense against beautiful Israeli women. I'd be in Payot (sp?)before I knew what happened.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:10 PM (Kabs6)

296 Damn, the Habs and Jets are feisty with each other tonight. Damn testy squads.

Posted by: palin steele at January 29, 2013 08:10 PM (jVAw4)

297 "I have zero defense against beautiful Israeli women."

Especially when they're combat trained and armed with rifles.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:10 PM (Hz1zc)

298 things that makes the Third Reich so

Posted by: Jurdon at January 29, 2013 08:11 PM (EZl54)

299

I still idolize my Scoutmaster,Phil McCracken...

for accuracy.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:11 PM (Kabs6)

300 things that makes the Third Reich so interesting

Posted by: Jordin at January 29, 2013 08:12 PM (EZl54)

301 /fuck doll cuddling sock

Posted by: logprof at January 29, 2013 08:12 PM (jVAw4)

302 Come on. Why would gay men want to be a part of an organization that takes young boys on overnight trips, far from civilization?

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 08:12 PM (MMC8r)

303 Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2013 08:10 PM (Kabs6)

I worked briefly in an industry with tons of Hasidim. And some of their wives were smoking hot.

But I was referring to the beauties on the beach and on the street and in the clubs and restaurants.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 08:12 PM (GsoHv)

304 283 JDP,

So "right wing" is now merely an identifier for "patriotic"?

Oh no wait...that can't be it Baracka Doc was extolling his special brand of "economic patriotism" which hey you know who else invoked that a bunch?

Okay okay "militaristic"?

So those parades in Red Square and Beijing were "right wing affairs"?

Ah ok....

No Adolf Hitler attacked the ideas of Lockeian individual liberty such as it had existed in Germany, he attacked the free market, and self-interest.

He sought to "transform Germany into its lost promise from its 'misguided modern founding' that 'betrayed its best ideals' and needed "renewal."

Yeah yeah definitely sounds like someone trying to maintain the status quo, or better still The Weimar Republic the German Constitution of the time....?

You noticing something?

Hitler does not sound a fucking thing like me.

He does sound a lot like the guy who likes aping Il Douche and wearing momjeans.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:12 PM (LRFds)

305 290 but i'm not saying patriotism is inherently right-wing. i do think having a particular view of a country's culture, ethnic heritage, etc. etc. is more associated with the Right than the Left. i also think there's really nothing wrong with having a non-universalist/multiculturalist/etc. view of a country (that's why i'm not a fan of the open-borderites,) it's that Nazism takes that concept to a perverted, genocidal extreme, which is why they're placed on the right.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:13 PM (60GaT)

306 JETS GOAL!

Canadiens 2 Jets 1

Posted by: logprof at January 29, 2013 08:13 PM (jVAw4)

307 "Come on. Why would gay men want to be a part of an organization that takes young boys on overnight trips, far from civilization?"

Because compared to the priesthood, there's a very low barrier to entry?

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:13 PM (Hz1zc)

308 you see, if you're an American and you have, ah, how do you say...intellectual curiosity?

Ah yes, as an American with intellectual curiosity, and as someone who identifies with small government and freedoms, blah blah blah, when someone says something like "it's pretty much historical consensus that the Nazis were on the extreme right, and not because everything bad has to be right-wing or anything like that," you want to figure out what's up with that.

you may not, you may be cool with that.

But me, I went done got to reading about why my beliefs would be conflated with a totalitarian regime when I dislike those things.

So, it turns out that people are stupid. That they have no idea what's what. But I'm not down with that.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 08:14 PM (QxSug)

309 302-
I see no reason to Bring up Harry Reid or his "fact-finding" missions.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:14 PM (dDD3H)

310 it's that Nazism takes that concept to a perverted, genocidal extreme, which is why they're placed on the right.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:13 PM (60GaT)

--Oh yah, because only conservatives have committed genocide against minorities. Gotcha.

Posted by: logprof at January 29, 2013 08:15 PM (jVAw4)

311 fascism can be on the right while being distinct from conservatism. same with liberalism/the USSR both being on the left. not a big deal maan. i'm not a fan of the Left's abuse of the term either.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:15 PM (60GaT)

312 292 CBD,

Stalin used Russian nationalism when it suited him, I always do enjoy asking apologists who wish to throw Hitler on my side of the aisle the following:

"So Stalin who was a communist woke up one day pole vaulted into being on the right-wing then did a triple lindy post war when it was economic religion over nationality again landed back on the left?"

Favorite reply is when I have it casually explained to me that, "well no Stalin was a right winger too."

Ah yes....two legs good 4 legs baaa baad.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:16 PM (LRFds)

313 crazy .

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:16 PM (nqBYe)

314 just conflating left wing with hippy dippy open minded stuff.

I mean, I get it, the left in America went all peacenik and multiculti. Not because they wanted us to surrender to the soviets or to destroy the cultural relics that wanted us not to surrender to the soviets. So, now the left is hippy dippy. Therefore, militaristic societies are right wing.

Just ask Bosnia or Libya about that.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 08:17 PM (QxSug)

315
NICOTINE AND GRAVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMj0ogLTweU

Posted by: BECK at January 29, 2013 08:18 PM (Kabs6)

316 i didn't say that. North Korea and the old USSR would qualify as militaristic societies and i'm not calling those right-wing.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:18 PM (60GaT)

317 A lot of modern writers use the term 'authoritarian' instead of 'Fascist' when describing Hitler's government. 'Totalitarian' has also gone out of vogue. I don't use 'Fascist' much because the term has become so polluted by misuse, i.e. Bush's fascist imperialism or Obama and his fascist cronies.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:19 PM (Hz1zc)

318 310 LogProf,

Yup there it is....

Eastasia has always been at war with EUrasia.....

heh....

Yeah and that is why I never taught.

I'd blow my brains out.

That is pure weapons grade idiocy on the left's part but by God it is *fact*.

If bad was done it *has* to be right wing!

FDR snuck over to the GOP when he did Tuskegee and inflicted EUgenics...Margaret Sanger is an honorary republican and her organization then purified itself and joined the donks by shedding that right wing evil and just being good abortionists....

You want to know how I know I am not crazy?

I can't make fucking sense out of a democrats' internal monologue.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:19 PM (LRFds)

319 Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:13 PM (Hz1zc)

You DO realize you're a bigot, right?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 08:19 PM (4gFWN)

320 I think, BTW, that scouting is great. Young men need discipline, adventure, code of ethics, and authority figures.

The Boy Scouts of America put their foot down in American values that some people have despised, long before they learned to love homomania.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 08:20 PM (QxSug)

321 "You DO realize you're a bigot, right?"

I'm an atheist, and I admit I have to police my own thoughts for bigotry, especially regarding Islam.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:21 PM (Hz1zc)

322 what i see is left wingers, absolutely judge and label Everyone by their respective religions , judge everyone by their genetics, judge everyone by their physical assets and decide by all those things those who are worthy and or'special' in a bad way

they do not accept the equalness , and help All people find their optimum.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:21 PM (nqBYe)

323 You DO realize you're a bigot, right?


He can't be. He voted for Obama.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 08:21 PM (MMC8r)

324 Jordan, it is curious how that's gone out of fashion. I still have my high school American history text, I wonder what they said about this issue back then.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now more concerned about Dark Ages 2.0 than Great Depression 2.0 at January 29, 2013 08:21 PM (QxSug)

325 You DO realize you're a bigot, right?

----------------------
He earned the "Some of my best friends are black" merit badge.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:23 PM (dDD3H)

326 Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:21 PM (Hz1zc)

Yeah, it's a bit more than Islam, kid.

But go ahead, keep telling yourself you're the "tolerant" type who takes people as individuals.

I'm sure that's what you have to do to be able to sleep at night.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 08:23 PM (4gFWN)

327 322 - Well put.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:23 PM (dDD3H)

328 "
If bad was done it *has* to be right wing!"

no.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:24 PM (60GaT)

329 311 JDP,

There is more to political/economic interaction than "left/right"

They try to tie the modern GOP to nazis with that Calumny while somehow being pristine from communism's taint despite venona.

JDP you are aware it is possible to be highly pissed off at someone because they are competing for the same sheep to follow them yes?

If nazism is not Capitalist(it was not) and it was not free market(it was not) and it wnated wage and price controls(it did) and it promised a job for everyone(it did) how precisely is that a right wing phenomena if "right wing" is based on anything more than 'race' or 'patriotism'?

I am sincerely asking you to explain in anything other than "well gee the nazis went too far and were not commies so RIGHT WING!"


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:24 PM (LRFds)

330 Jordan would be Adam Baldwin's character in the Patriot. Except he would not hesitate to light the church on fire.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2013 08:24 PM (GULKT)

331 "324 Jordan, it is curious how that's gone out of fashion. I still have my high school American history text, I wonder what they said about this issue back then."

I'm not bothering to check, but I'm pretty sure 'totalitarian' was coined by Hannah Arendt in the 60s. Like Shirer did later, Arendt was trying to understand the origins and appeal of Nazism and that's the word she chose to describe it.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:25 PM (Hz1zc)

332 MMmmm Adam Baldwin......

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:25 PM (dDD3H)

333 322

Hell, the Ultimate Left Winger, Karl Marx, saw everybody as a captive robot of their class. Real individualism is the enemy of the leftist mindset.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 08:26 PM (MMC8r)

334 328 JDP,

I pointed out the economic philosophy shares more with socialism than capitalism, I showed that militarism is possible across the spectrum of economies, I point out that nationalism based on ethnicity transcended easy labeling, I beseech you please do explain what "right wing" is....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:26 PM (LRFds)

335 gigg, it's exhausting fighting their insanity.

so you got away today from politics?
i hope for fun ! ?

Ive been trying to limit myself the last few days for peace of mind.
but i find i' go right from calm to biting angst in a couple of minutes. still.

maybe a month or so would work out better

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:27 PM (nqBYe)

336 "I beseech you please do explain what "right wing" is...."

It's a vague political descriptor whose meaning depends on context. You could call Hitler right-wing just as you could Pat Robertson, but they don't mean even close to the same thing.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:28 PM (Hz1zc)

337 can i say it's rather amusing to find some commonality in this.

we all hate Hitler so much no one wants to be a part of it.

to bad we can't feel the same about stalin.


Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:30 PM (nqBYe)

338 335- I get super super riled up too. It's hard not too! I get so frustrated. My time away was gym and making groceries.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:31 PM (dDD3H)

339 gigg, adam baldwin?

fight ya for him?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:31 PM (nqBYe)

340 335- And I am debating weather to get on WOW, STO or watch Sparticus.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:32 PM (dDD3H)

341 You could call Hitler right-wing just as you could Pat Robertson, but they don't mean even close to the same thing.

Yes, but it never seems to stop your type - or even you specificall, as your demonstrated multiple times todays No, you compare them directly all the time.

"Right-wing" to liberals merely means, "stuff I don't like"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 29, 2013 08:32 PM (4gFWN)

342 329

because there are other metrics for whether something's left/right besides economics? not sure how else to put this. intense ethnic nationalism is not something i associate with leftist ideology, although it is a view some leftists in history have held, similar to how certain rightists may've held select left-wing views.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 08:32 PM (60GaT)

343 we all hate Hitler so much no one wants to be a part of it.

to bad we can't feel the same about stalin.


The Left needs the Race Card, therefore Hitler = Evil, even though Stalin killed many times more people...he just didn't pick them by ethnicity.

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 08:33 PM (MMC8r)

344 339 I will straight up claw your fucking eyes out.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:33 PM (dDD3H)

345 gigg, gym might have been a good thing, but the grocers? i hate fighting through the aisle of people that park in the center, and i always seem to find the cashier that is in training!

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:34 PM (nqBYe)

346 339 I will straight up claw your fucking eyes out.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:33 PM (dDD3H)

well, ouch.
but i have brownies!which is better?

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:34 PM (nqBYe)

347 "fight ya for him?"

Hell, I'd buy a ticket.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:35 PM (Hz1zc)

348
John F. McManus,

Left has come to represent increasing government control. The extreme
leftist typically seeks total government. Working their way toward
total government power are the Communists, socialists, fascists, and
modern liberals who advocate government solutions for every real or
imagined problem.
*That* is fucking left versus right or as a 1926 Civics text described it.
Liberal vs Conservative
The Conservative values individual effort protected by strict rule of law and accepts that the individual is responsible for his lot in life.
The liberal feels that the community has a duty to ensure that the weak are not hurt by the inability of some to maximize their ability to make their own way and seeks to use government to protect the weak, feels law is best when loosely applied and used to correct individual cases of harm.


That's from memory and wobbly but stuck with me from a book I read in canada.


What struck me is that it was a lot easier to define "right" than left.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:36 PM (LRFds)

349
but i have brownies!which is better?

Brownies...??? I love the little uniforms...!

Oh, darn.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at January 29, 2013 08:36 PM (MMC8r)

350 345 - I always end up stuck behind some self absorbed scrunt talking on a cell phone in the middle of the isle while I am trying to reach around her rude ass to grab a box of pasta.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:36 PM (dDD3H)

351 And the two parallel discussions are awesome to read together.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:37 PM (dDD3H)

352 haha, yes , and she will be wearing earphones chatting with her friend so never hears, excuse me , um, excuse me.
and looks angry if you move the cart two inches to move through.
i just use the upraised eyebrow in query.

i call it my, do you really wanna screw up this day look.

works so far.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:40 PM (nqBYe)

353 there must be a new thread.

lets look.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:41 PM (nqBYe)

354 "fight ya for him?"



Hell, I'd buy a ticket.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:35 PM (Hz1zc)

sometimes you're just a regular guy.

Posted by: ette at January 29, 2013 08:42 PM (nqBYe)

355 342 JDP,

Ah okay got it....

so murdering billions because they actually want gain is somehow less reprehensible than murdering millions because they are Jews or Indians or.....

hey wait a sec...you know Stalin...he sorta had a thing for Jews himself......


In a December 1, 1952 Politburo session, Stalin announced: "Every
Jewish nationalist is the agent of the American intelligence service.
Jewish nationalists think that their nation was saved by the USA. . .
They think they are indebted to the Americans. Among doctors, there are
many Jewish nationalists."Now it is true most records say that Stalin only murdered about 29,000 Jews in the first great purge so I guess he was a left wing hero after all *maybe*?

"Night of the Murdered Poets" was august 12th 1952 in Lubyanka Prison Stalin had Beria's boys retire 25 Yiddish individuals who were members of the Jewish Anti-Fascist League.

Stalin had some serious thoughts on forced integration and obliteration of the Yiddish identity.

so is "ethnic cleansing" a left or right wing virtue?

What about extra-judicial murder?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:45 PM (LRFds)

356 "What about extra-judicial murder?"

Well, judicial murder, in this country at least, is strongly associated with the right.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:48 PM (Hz1zc)

357 341 Sean Bannion,

Pretty much, and I am pretty much precise when I call Obama a Marxist in the closet at best or a not very closeted at all Fascist.

That Obama is "left" to me denotes that he like most Keynesians LOVES him some Government....

having trouble don't worry about it I will make a Comprehensive Bi-partisan(defined as I tell your side what your view is) Group to analyze optimal Poo needs we have deduced that the key is to subsidize unicorn skittles as laxative...

and yes I did make the decision stupid because that is the fucking flaw by concentrating "power' in "fewer hands" to "do more good" you magnify the capability for a catastrophic fuck up but by God JUSTICE demands YOU let ME fuck this up!

Me, I'd trust people to try to get their own poo out.

I'm an evil right winger who doesn't really give fifteen fucks about the defecatory rituals of 300,000,000 people all at once....

I figure if I eat enough roughage and keep rodents out of my asshole nature will fucking take care of itself.

Anyway sorry to be crude.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:56 PM (LRFds)

358 356 Jordan,

Yes sir....

Hey Jordan.....

the "death penalty" is a valid punishment for catastrophic misdeeds....why by Golly I count on men to act with honor and be ruthlessly punished for misdeeds after rule of law.

Giggles uses "joystick summary judgement"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:58 PM (LRFds)

359
PATIENT: ...

DOCTOR: Anal, too.


I admit it; I laffed.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2013 08:59 PM (9GaPd)

360 "That Obama is "left" to me denotes that he like most Keynesians LOVES him some Government...."

Off topic, but I've recently concluded the major problem with Keynes is that his prescription is politically impossible to implement. Everyone loves increasing spending and lowering taxes in a recession, but now that the recession is over and Keynes's prescription calls for spending cuts and increasing taxes we lack the political willpower to follow through. We did the easy part, but we're unwilling to do the harder, but essential, second part.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 09:00 PM (Hz1zc)

361 I'm an atheist, and I admit I have to police my own thoughts for bigotry, especially regarding Islam.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 08:21 PM (Hz1zc)

No such thing as an athiest. Self-worship, yes.

Posted by: justbecause at January 29, 2013 09:03 PM (scLNg)

362 "the "death penalty" is a valid punishment for catastrophic misdeeds...."

Death is a proper punishment for catastrophic misdeeds. The death penalty, however, is a government power that is unevenly applied, serves little purpose in free societies, and is apt to be abused by tyrants. I'm not particularly dogmatic about the issue, but I'm pleased some states are discarding it and those that retain are using it less frequently.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 09:04 PM (Hz1zc)

363 "No such thing as an athiest. Self-worship, yes."

If you can't spell it, don't knock it.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 09:05 PM (Hz1zc)

364 And yet you are quite happy with the continuous murder of innocents you pathetic disgusting shit. You are the epitome of all that is wrong in the world.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2013 09:06 PM (GULKT)

365 326 Jordan,

and THERE is that charming circular logic that the 1926 book showed endemic to the left...

YES WE CANNOT TRUST GOVT TO BE FAIR BUT I CAN TRUST IT WITH EVER INCREASING POWER OVER MY LIFE!

Yeah..."libertarian" scooter by the way Barry using hellfires is no court at all.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:07 PM (LRFds)

366 "YES WE CANNOT TRUST GOVT TO BE FAIR BUT I CAN TRUST IT WITH EVER INCREASING POWER OVER MY LIFE!"

Speak for yourself, Sven. This doesn't reflect my feelings in the least.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 09:07 PM (Hz1zc)

367
366 "YES WE CANNOT TRUST GOVT TO BE FAIR BUT I CAN TRUST IT WITH EVER INCREASING POWER OVER MY LIFE!" Speak for yourself, Sven. This doesn't reflect my feelings in the least.
Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 09:07 PM (Hz1zc)


You vote for those who do you pathetic murderous slime.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2013 09:08 PM (GULKT)

368 "You vote for those who do you pathetic murderous slime."

Trolling batteries recharged. This conversation was entirely too civil until you showed up.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 09:12 PM (Hz1zc)

369 360 Jordan,

Keynesianism is a religion.

Nothing more nothing less it is the only 'science' that demands that when results do not meet hypothesis the ONLY answer is to increase the active component of the formula.

I did a post on the difference between Keynes and Hayek on swimming pools one night here...wish I had kept it.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:13 PM (LRFds)

370 The difference between Keynes and Hayek is that nobody, and I mean nobody, can understand Keynes's book.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 09:14 PM (Hz1zc)

371 the goal is to fill the pool.....

a command economist fills

the pool with concrete....mission done the pool is now a sidewalk but

who cares *I* like the answer comrade....

Kids look at pool in swimwear disguised as sidewalk and go star at a tree.

Hayek

looks at pool, makes an estimate of cost of filling pool versus flow

rate of hose solution, risks own time and money....buys a good water

hose buys water fills pool with water, sets price point for entry into

pool attempts to exert profit motive to the interaction between

capitalization investment to desired rate of return....sends kids to

advertise gives wage to kids, hires kid to sell tickets, hores

lifeguard....

Pool is in operation in 3 days.....profit begins year two.

Keynes.....heh....Keynes.....

Keynes

waits until the pool business above is in trouble, breaks out money

machine first attempts to create an entire water evaporation recovery

farm in area......the new physical plant succeeds but rate of water

recovery takes 30 times too long for optimal utility.....

Keynes

then breaks out money machine and pays kids from across the county to

come in and attempt to dig canal from ocean 300 miles inland to pool

area as a "industrial development zone. Canal works but water is salt

water clogs filtration system Keynes runs over budget hiring pump repair

guy. Loses six months but gains a wonderful multiplier for the
unbuilt machine shop the next door neighbor dreams of one day building.

Keynes then hires fire department at triple pay to fill the pool at triple the cost Hayek filled pool in 5 minutes.

The Kids are now back in school.....

I

guess the point is that Keynes' folly is he has a better grasp of the

micro economic utility of a populations' needs than the analytical

ability of the indiidual actors....

this also leads to another "magnifier".....

the impact of bad judgement to impact multiplier....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:15 PM (LRFds)

372 and sorry but that post was at about 2:47 in the morning on 7 Spetember when I was twitting with a drunk Reince Priebus IIRC

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:18 PM (LRFds)

373 I know leftists love to flatter themselves, and think they are the good guys, but all they have done is exchange one hatred for another. Racists justify their hate the same way leftist do. I'm sure the nazis thought what they were doing to the jews and the rest of the world was justified too.
The one glaring lesson to be learned from the Nazis is that an all encompassing giant government aint the fucking answer. Slavery comes in many forms. I do not wish to be a slave to any system even if that system means well.
That is the basis of my dissent. And it is on that hill I will live or die.

Posted by: wattyler1381 at January 29, 2013 09:25 PM (F2Vrz)

374 sven,

placing importance on cultural/ethnic heritage, as opposed to some abstract Brotherhood of Man based on class or something else, is right rather than left.

that's all i'm saying.

Posted by: JDP at January 29, 2013 09:42 PM (60GaT)

375 My thoughts on optimism: http://www.libertydude.com/?p=390

An excerpt: As a “gun nut” you can bet I’ll be watching this closely, but at the
moment, it appears to me that additional gun control is a non-starter,
and looking more deeply into it, I sense a burgeoning curiosity among
those in “the middle” who are hearing the arguments of the pro-gun
resistance and recognizing that it’s not full of lunacy, it’s full of
reason, passion, and most of all a desire to do something that will
actually make a difference.

Posted by: The Liberty Dude at January 29, 2013 09:49 PM (iAWQF)

376 374 JDP,

ehhhh

okay so Marxism in deciding that economics trumps all measured in the "ethics of class struggle" is the ultimate expression of left....

I see....

I don't agree but I see.

Whatever works for you I guess.

I know I am a deeply flawed human being who needs removed from any wealth and power.

Obama told me, imagine a world of need without white man's greed.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:49 PM (LRFds)

377 Who are the trannies?

http://tinyurl.com/ya8opur

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2013 09:58 PM (UOM48)

378 Keynesian? When the MSM ends its war on reporting, maybe they'll ask what is obamanomics or what is the obama doctrine. There is no justification for the obama economic policy. That's the thing about the dark lord of vermin and empty platitudes, he's basically an ad hoc check the box corrupt cipher who, like the jason pollack character in Casino, thinks he's in the room because he's so smart.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 29, 2013 11:44 PM (zH1JT)

379
DOCTOR: Dear God, that hurts. Please, you're killing me!
PATIENT: Yeah, that's the point!
DOCTOR: But you have bigger things to worry about!
PATIENT: I've got time. Besides, what are they going to do with me? give me the needle? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at January 30, 2013 09:02 AM (1hM1d)






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World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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