English Couple: Why Work? The Government Gives Us Plenty of Money

Indeed.

Danny Creamer, 21, and Gina Allan, 18, spend each day watching their 47in flatscreen TV and smoking 40 cigarettes between them in their comfy two-bedroom flat.

It is all funded by the taxpayer, yet the couple say they deserve sympathy because they are “trapped”.

They even claim they are entitled to their generous handouts because their hard-working parents have been paying tax for years.

The couple, who have a four-month-old daughter Tullulah-Rose, say they can’t go out to work as they could not survive on less than their £1,473-a-month benefits.

The pair left school with no qualifications, and say there is no point looking for jobs because they will never be able to earn as much as they get in handouts.

We can pour moral scorn on them, but they'll ignore the moral scorn and just keep taking the $2400 per month (or whatever) benefits.

If you're paying someone to do a job, they're going to do that job, because they have to do that job to stay alive. Moral scorn won't deter them. And in this case, England -- and the US, too -- is hiring people to sit in their apartments and collect checks from taxpayers.

And so they're going to keep doing that job, aren't they?

Even Bill Maher noted this, in his inimitable style (by which I mean not funny, and also not perceptive). And yet, he still finally got around to wondering that if we continue escalating benefits for the nonworking, gee willickers, doesn't that mean the working will have to pay a lot more?

Solvency, generous government benefits, a social order that no longer penalizes people for engaging in costly behaviors they can't pay for, but rather encourages them to do what thou will: Choose any two.

Posted by: Ace at 07:41 PM



Comments

1 The USA in a couple of years?

Posted by: Marmo at January 28, 2013 07:42 PM (pcgW1)

2 Maybe now?

Posted by: Marmo at January 28, 2013 07:42 PM (pcgW1)

3 Not if the taxpayers don't pay.

Nothing gets a good old fashioned revolution going like no check on the 15th.

By gar, it's been a while.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 28, 2013 07:43 PM (IS7ml)

4 Of course, the liberals' answer to this is to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

Posted by: rockmom at January 28, 2013 07:43 PM (O/Ize)

5 That is our future.The European model.(Yes it has been here for some for decades but it is becoming more mainstream)

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 07:44 PM (9XBK2)

6 a.) I--magically--finally graduated from college the first time around when the financial aid ended.

b.) Prime fighting material here. Prime.

Posted by: H. at January 28, 2013 07:44 PM (D5Jpp)

7 And they teach their children how to milk the system as well.

I was a teen who lived with a single mom in section 8 housing and on foodstamps.

Only personal shame allowed me to escape.

Sadly, not many appear to experience shame these days.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 07:45 PM (piMMO)

8 This is why we need a way to nationally shame people like this. Fuck the PC crap and call them parasitic losers. If they lived here.

Posted by: Marmo at January 28, 2013 07:45 PM (pcgW1)

9 I should try it

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 07:45 PM (8sCoq)

10 Cue the medical study that working is bad for your health.

Obama should crack 110 at this rate.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 28, 2013 07:45 PM (IS7ml)

11 We're just borrowing from ourselves so it's okay.

Wheelbarrows full of cash for everyone. Soon.

/sarc

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 28, 2013 07:46 PM (zpqa2)

12 California, now.

Posted by: CAC at January 28, 2013 07:46 PM (tq6qN)

13 We were a nation founded on letting people work hard and do well from the fruits of their labors.


We have become a nation that believes that asking people to work is evil when they can do pretty well by living off the fruits of other's labor without working.


What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 07:46 PM (Cnqmv)

14 I kid

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 07:47 PM (8sCoq)

15 This is the goal for the lefties. Remember when Nana Pelosi said that this would allow artists to live without the starving part?

Posted by: Marmo at January 28, 2013 07:47 PM (pcgW1)

16 What do they call them in the UK?"Yobs" I think?Just collect welfare,get drunk every night and brawl in the streets.

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 07:47 PM (9XBK2)

17 With a GOP like we have, I really think we may as well vote for the other side. It's starting to look pretty attractive. I'll just sit back on the dole like everyone else, payin back my big mortgage with worthless dollars. Works for me.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 28, 2013 07:48 PM (zpqa2)

18 My favorite part was when the freeloaders said their parents are paying for it. I'm sure they are on many levels.

Posted by: no good deed at January 28, 2013 07:48 PM (mjR67)

19
These people belong on a commune with the rest of their kind.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 07:48 PM (Sptt8)

20 Stompin' that meatball again I see!

Posted by: boulder hobo at January 28, 2013 07:48 PM (QTHTd)

21 We do it for noncitizens now.

Posted by: Who Knows at January 28, 2013 07:49 PM (W+Itt)

22 This is why we need a way to nationally shame people
like this. Fuck the PC crap and call them parasitic losers. If they
lived here.

Posted by: Marmo at January 28, 2013 07:45 PM



They do live here. We don't need to shame the shameless, we need to cut off their supply of free shit.

Posted by: huerfano at January 28, 2013 07:49 PM (bAGA/)

23 Posted by: rockmom at January 28, 2013 07:43 PM (O/Ize)



Coming soon to a neighborhood near you: Welfare payments increased to $250,000 per year per person so everyone is rich and Obama taxes the hell out of them, but they still feel good about themselves because they have finally made it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 07:49 PM (Cnqmv)

24 Coming soon to a self inflicted gunshot wounded formerly Anglic nation near you....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 07:49 PM (LRFds)

25 Life is for the living
Takers never giving

Suspicion takes the place of trust
My love is turning into lust
If you get on the wrong side of me you better run for cover

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 28, 2013 07:50 PM (e8kgV)

26 Even Japan is reducing their welfare payments to reduce the number of the "comfortable poor".
The real reason unemployment is coming down: extended unemployment has been reduced by a lot of the states. Lots of people have used up their 99 weeks and have gone back to work.
The whole morally corrupt system that gives folks an incentive to be lazy has got to change. I do despair.

Posted by: carolina at January 28, 2013 07:50 PM (QVLHl)

27 Meh, when the money runs out and nations replace cushy benefits with a bunk in a military barracks and cafeteria chow to keep poor people from starving in the streets, maybe allowing parents to share a private room with their young children this problem can self-correct very very quickly.

Posted by: In before the folks preaching forced strerilization or worse at January 28, 2013 07:50 PM (dkExz)

28 7 NDH,

This is by design....the liberals hate our age group...

"we're Reagan's little warriors" "self-hating children of poverty" I don't hate myself I hate poverty make a nation that helps people out of it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (LRFds)

29 When the tipping point in question is whether or not people actually have a connection with economic reality, going over it will prove to be one hell of a ride.

Wheeeeee!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (zpqa2)

30 Well, Danny and Gina and Tullulah-Rose (poor thing) are going to find out how generous the new United Kaliphate will be to the likes of them very soon.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (jVAw4)

31 And next door?

France 'totally bankrupt', says labour minister Michel Sapin

France's labour minister sent the country into a state of shock on Monday after he described the nation as “totally bankrupt”.


Bring the thunder, bring the fire.

LIB

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (xz0nG)

32 Pushing CAC down.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (QupBk)

33 And we almost had a reality show called All My Babies' Mamas.

Fuck.

Posted by: Marmo at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (pcgW1)

34 I'm on the other end of this. I worked two, sometimes three jobs to provide for my family thirty years ago. Now that my own fucking government destroyed the manufacturing sector, I'm unable to find any work during what should be my prime earning years.

I get to choose between signing up for every benefit I can, or starving.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (+z4pE)

35 Ironically, Danny Creamer was my porn name back in the 70s.

Posted by: Hoss at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (Gk/35)

36 After reading that I think I need a drinking thread. Or just a drink, or three.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (4Mv1T)

37 Since their logic is that their parents paid into the system, so that allows them to sit back and collect, what do they think is going to be financing little Tulullah-Rose's lifestyle?


Not that I think they really peeled away that many layers of the onion...

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (4c71i)

38 Yaayyyyyyyy!!!...England's worse off than us!!!...yayyyyyyy!!!

Posted by: Corky the Retard at January 28, 2013 07:52 PM (BbS5+)

39 "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism', they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." --Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Party Presidential Candidate

Posted by: muckdog at January 28, 2013 07:52 PM (aZxcE)

40 16 What do they call them in the UK?"Yobs" I think?Just collect welfare,get drunk every night and brawl in the streets.

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 07:47 PM (9XBK2)


--Chavs. See also Trailer Park Boys for a funny take on the subculture.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 07:52 PM (jVAw4)

41 The best way to reduce abuse of freebies (like obamaphones, medicaid, etc) is to require a co-pay for everything. Even $10 per use/month would greatly reduce the incentive to get something for nothing! This is so simple, but seems impossible to get established. Arghhhhh

Posted by: carolina at January 28, 2013 07:52 PM (QVLHl)

42 I'm pretty sure Moyers, the commie mogul (and also an ordained minister) authored a good part of LBJ's Not So"Great Society" program.

So now after juicing the federal opium racket, he makes a good living off of social commentary.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 28, 2013 07:53 PM (aZ6ew)

43
I had a boyfriend from London once whose sister was a squatter. Not a lick of shame, but proud. They let them start utilities and everything.
Hey, whaddya wanna bet the SCOAMTT initiates squatting through his post campaign action group? Wouldn't that just be next??

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 07:53 PM (Sptt8)

44 #27

Good idea. We should bring back the Poor Farms.

Posted by: Marmo at January 28, 2013 07:53 PM (pcgW1)

45 Even Bill Maher noted this, in his inimitable style (by which I mean not funny, and also not perceptive).

Maher can be funny and can be perceptive, and this time he at least managed "perceptive". Granted, what he perceived is something a seven year old the evening after his first arithmetic class would have perceived - eventually subtraction gets you to "zero" - but shit, that's more than what most voters figured out last election.

Posted by: boulder hobo at January 28, 2013 07:53 PM (QTHTd)

46 These people belong on a commune with the rest of their kind.

There will be much settling of scores in the Burning Time.

Into the smokehouse with the rest of them.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 07:53 PM (QupBk)

47 30 Well, Danny and Gina and Tullulah-Rose (poor thing) are going to find out how generous the new United Kaliphate will be to the likes of them very soon.

I suspect they'll convert to Islam. She stays home all the time anyway and it's a religion built on being shiftless and entitled.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 07:54 PM (uhAkr)

48
Thing that cracks me up about Maher is that I'll bet more than a few of his dipshit listeners figured Maher and the other inteligentsia knew a way out of this dilemma 'cause otherwise why would they be so hard on those of us screaming "Fire!".

Turns out, No. this leprechaun only is now coming to comprehend the issue at all. What a letdown that must be for his audience.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 28, 2013 07:54 PM (r5w1L)

49 Posted by: Hoss at January 28, 2013 07:51 PM (Gk/35)


So you're not the Danny Creamher of pr0n fame I remember?

Posted by: H Holmes at January 28, 2013 07:54 PM (Cnqmv)

50 Our Gen. Y even is less educated, more spoiled and more hopeless than their Gen. Y. We're heading towards becoming Europe West. Elections have consequences. And if the U.S. was a horse it'd be sent to the glue factory.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at January 28, 2013 07:54 PM (pmsMR)

51
Backward Boy, if you need it, that's what it's there for.
Good luck to you.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 07:54 PM (Sptt8)

52 Incentive structures? Never heard of them.


(Also, what happens when stupid incentive structures intersect with Atheism and Nihilism and a debased culture and society.)


Later, all.

God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 28, 2013 07:55 PM (CHnHn)

53 "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end for they do so with the approval
of their own conscience." C.S. Lewis

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 28, 2013 07:55 PM (zpqa2)

54 Are there no prisons? No work houses?

What? There's not?

Bloody shame.

Posted by: ebenezer scrooge at January 28, 2013 07:55 PM (QupBk)

55 I have met several of people in CA who live on a combo of part-time work, UE bennies, HUD housing, disability (usually in the entertainment business). The state is thus subsidizing them and more importantly the rich studios, so that the folks stay around and be there when needed. They would all like to work full time but it ain't gonna happen. Hwood likes the status quo and govt is happy too.

I met one young woman who lives in an apartment complex with eight families. She and another girl who is a hairdresser are the ONLY ONES who work. Period. The layabouts are up tho first thing in the morning DRINKING and the day gets worse from there.


Posted by: PJ at January 28, 2013 07:55 PM (ZWaLo)

56 #34 Backwards Boy

I'm sorry to hear that. I have no problem if people just try to find a job. If there absolutely are none, they can't be blamed, but the government sure as hell can be.

Posted by: Marmo at January 28, 2013 07:55 PM (pcgW1)

57
I know people like this. When you closely examine their lives, they are almost always.....scum. And I am related to a couple by blood and a couple more by marriage. My wife has a cousin who was injured "in the line of duty" as a fireman decades ago, and he has ridden that disability to a pretty good life. It gets hard to put up with him now, that he is over 65 and having weight problems and needs knee surgery. And he loves him some Obamacare. Worthless parasite.

It's tragic to watch children born into this. A big clue to the terrible social pathologies that are a big part of the Inner City life for Black kids. It's amazing that any of them ever make it out of this trap.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at January 28, 2013 07:56 PM (RFeQD)

58 The most compassionate thing that can be done for these kids is to slowly and predictably take away all their benies... Much like a mother hawk kicking her chicks out of he nest... And for the same reason.

Posted by: Sam in Va at January 28, 2013 07:56 PM (YCvRs)

59 I didn't escalate benefits for the non-working by myself.

Posted by: Barry at January 28, 2013 07:56 PM (DJIo7)

60 soul-destroying is what it is. for them and their child(ren)

and just think! they have nOTHING to do all day but scromp and make more babies! yay!

oh and shop! w00t! stimulating

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at January 28, 2013 07:58 PM (J6kXj)

61 58 The left is not about compassion,they are about control.LBJ knew what his welfare program would get his party.

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 07:58 PM (9XBK2)

62 This is why you're going to have a hard time getting that Kenyan and his people out of that free house in D.C.

Posted by: torabora at January 28, 2013 07:58 PM (VJeJd)

63 FNC interviewed a Tennessee legislator this morning. It seems like his name was 'Campfield' or something similar. He has put forth a bill to further reduce welfare payments (cash only) to TN recipients who are parents to failing students.

If I understood correctly, they already reduce payments by 20% and he's pushing for another 10%.

The cuts will not affect their food stamps, medicaid, or housing, just the cash.

It seems to me that if you are already cutting 20% of what is the least of the payouts they receive, and it has had no impact, another 10% isn't going to help.

I mean, it feels good, emotionally, but it isn't going to help.

As a child of welfare I can assure him that, if they aren't missing it, then they are making it up somewhere else: Either in drugs or working under-the-table.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 07:58 PM (piMMO)

64 The most compassionate thing that can be done for these kids is to slowly and predictably take away all their benies

I am not interested in compassion for these adult, eligible-to-vote "kids".

Posted by: boulder hobo at January 28, 2013 07:58 PM (QTHTd)

65
Total conspiracy theory.
There's gonna be lotsa people who wish they could get out of buying health insurance but don't want to pay the fine or tax or whatever the fuk it is.
I myself have been considering converting to Amish.
Ya think the muzz get some?

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 07:59 PM (Sptt8)

66 61
That's the irony. That which sounds compassionate is often cruel, and that which appears cruel can be true compassion.

Posted by: Sam in Va at January 28, 2013 08:00 PM (YCvRs)

67 OT but I'll give The Following another watch tonight. The acting and characters are good, but I fear it may be going too far down the Shamalayan spectrum in being twist after twist after twist, so much that the Big Twist/Reveal will be almost anticlimactic.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 08:00 PM (jVAw4)

68 I like how they considered putting the wife out as a ho, but finally decided that would be too much like work.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:00 PM (QupBk)

69 >>I am not interested in compassion for these adult, eligible-to-vote "kids".

What, you didn't get the memo that adolescence now lasts to age 26?

Posted by: jakeman at January 28, 2013 08:00 PM (96M6e)

70 Their parents raised these buffoons.

Remember a couple of years ago in the UK a woman with all these kids from different fathers & on welfare could afford a couple of month vacation in Goa? Being the mother of the year, she left her 14 y/o daughter in the care of some 26 y/o guy who tended bar while she & the other kids took off for some other city. The guy raped the girl on the beach & killed her.

Posted by: Baby Marmalade at January 28, 2013 08:01 PM (jwumz)

71 It's sad, why bother living, they're already dead.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 28, 2013 08:01 PM (NzBQO)

72 The Soviet economy collapsed under the concept of "I pretend to work, as long as you pretend to pay me", England destroyers that ...

Notice this was a lefty push piece, Labour has a Solution - garenteed jobs. We will makeup a job and you work t iy

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2013 08:02 PM (+NNlC)

73 :::46 These people belong on a commune with the rest of their kind.

There will be much settling of scores in the Burning Time.

Into the smokehouse with the rest of them.
Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 07:53 PM (QupBk):::

These lazy fucks will be as tender as baby veal.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 28, 2013 08:02 PM (JDIKC)

74 Hey, Mr. Scrooge, here's something to think about.

Those children raised in this environment never really live up to their potential. Their parents set poor examples, they attend sub-par schools with classmates who mock learning, they are encouraged to pretend to be ADD so that they can collect checks from SDI, and their lives are wasted.


Posted by: Miss Marple at January 28, 2013 08:03 PM (GoIUi)

75 I wonder if they get a 5 week vacation.

Posted by: Baby Marmalade at January 28, 2013 08:03 PM (jwumz)

76 Ah fuck it. Give me the papers. Im ready to sign my ass up. They want it? They gonna get it, by golly.

Only reason I dont is because there are still a few good people paying taxes and i dont want to be a part of the problem. Even though it wouldnt make a damn bit of difference, I still have self pride.

Posted by: ElKomandante at January 28, 2013 08:03 PM (IJVIZ)

77 71 Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand,

Well the good news is that if we are prepared and manage to stay out in the rural areas we can engage in scavenger industry....

I saw an outdoor microwave in Louisiana some Cajuns made from a 'found" 1950s radar array....

they used police tape around the are of agitation....was neat.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:04 PM (LRFds)

78 I myself have been considering converting to Amish.
Ya think the muzz get some?

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 07:59 PM (Sptt


I am thinking about founding the "New Order Amish" with some interesting religious views on taxation and insurance!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 08:04 PM (Cnqmv)

79 Amnesty?

Nice more democrat Voters!

Just what we need!

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 08:04 PM (+OTLF)

80 Notice this was a lefty push piece, Labour has a Solution - guarenteed jobs.

The Republican Party is well ahead of them. The most famous and revered Republican of all Republicans ever (the one who didn't support Goldwater) wanted a "guaranteed annual income":
http://www.progress.org/dividend/cdking.html

That's whether they worked or not.

Posted by: boulder hobo at January 28, 2013 08:05 PM (QTHTd)

81 The best way to reduce abuse of freebies (like obamaphones, medicaid, etc) is to require
Posted by: carolina at January 28, 2013 07:52 PM (QVLHl)

Who said anything about reduce?
Have you not been paying attention?

Posted by: Amnesty Gang of 7/8/100 at January 28, 2013 08:06 PM (cyrh6)

82 What's with that guy's hair? Is that what passes for style now?

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:06 PM (QupBk)

83 This is proof that capitalism is the best thing ever devised by man.

And those who seek to destroy it are evil beyond measure.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 28, 2013 08:06 PM (+z4pE)

84 I got an idea.

If you go on government assistance cause you want free phones and free food and dont have the ass to get yourself out of that situation after x number of years..you must be sterilized to continue recieving any govmnt subsidies...so that you can not continue to spawn more useless sacks of shit like yourself.

Just think....in 60 years, the Democrats would end up being a super minority party.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 08:06 PM (+OTLF)

85 In the UK they are also giving extra benefits to the multiple wives of muslims.UK prisoners are converting to islam because they see what a sweetheart deal they get(no big deal,England abandoned religion decades ago) anyway).Unfortunately the shit policies of Europe eventually work their way over here.Instead of being an example of what not to do(which they obviously are) the American left sees them as the way to go.The American electorate apparently agrees(or at least is too stupid to disagree).

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:07 PM (9XBK2)

86 http://tinyurl.com/a8phfu2

want to see what the cat piss troll has been up to?

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 28, 2013 08:07 PM (GVxQo)

87
Yes, LBJ and the Democrats of the Great Society in the 1960's knew exactly what they were doing.

LBJ was a bad man. Crooked, stole elections (at least one), unprincipled and manipulative. I actually hope he is roasting in Hell. His Great Society has hurt millions by creating the seduction of dependency. The path from LBJ to Obama is a straight line. Obama is, in fact, the natural consequence of the policies that LBJ engendered.
FDR did as much or more damage, but at least he had the flimsiest of excuses that the country was in a Depression, not that his policies didn't make it worse. LBJ was President during the most robust period of growth the country had in the second half of the 20th century, and his policies led directly to the doldrum and stagnation of the 70's.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at January 28, 2013 08:07 PM (RFeQD)

88 Obama is the spawn of satan's dead cat's ass wart.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 08:07 PM (+OTLF)

89 On line behind couple at food checkout. 2 babies in cart and shes ready to spit out another. Both talking on cellphones and have crap for food in the cart. Both have bunches of tattoos. After they check out and pay with food stamps they are short 43¢ which they don't fucking have. Insult to injury. They both light up cigarettes outside.

Posted by: If u love me, you'll kill me at January 28, 2013 08:07 PM (XLuH2)

90 Those 'kids' will never know the satisfaction and the pride that comes from working at something and making it happen. They will never know the glow of success.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:07 PM (piMMO)

91 They don't consider themselves freeloaders, because after all, their parents paid taxes for over thirty years.

And who is going to be paying in taxes for the inevitable day when their little fuck trophy goes on the dole?

I want to club the stupid bovine grins off their fucking greasy faces with a rubber truncheon. Worthless pieces of shit.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 28, 2013 08:07 PM (JDIKC)

92 And I still want to know which one of you moron cornered the market on .38spl SWC. The stuff is pricier than .223

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (QupBk)

93 "And they teach their children how to milk the system as well."

Go talk to some people who've worked in the education-industrial complex.

They'll explain that moocher-class parents took about ten nanoseconds to realize that they'd get extra money every month if their offspring were diagnosed as "learning disabled" or as "behaviorally disordered".

So those moocher parents deliberately and patiently coach their kids to feign appropriate behaviors when the social workers are around, to get the "crazy money" that such behaviors elicit from officialdom.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (gqT4g)

94 80 Boulder Hobo,

I support reverse welfare....

No minimum wage, no tax to X then a flat tax....

let the dole be "the dole" meaning "handicapped? okay here you go but do not let society catch you "being able"

Instead we let the activists set the music....

it is like Welfare...welfare should be cash payments of "x dollars" if we are to have it and then NO FURTHER aid per period.

But aid is not there to be a bridge during resets aid is there to buy donkey votes.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (LRFds)

95 92 Toby 928th,

PRESENT!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (LRFds)

96 I keep hearing about 99 weeks of unemployment. When I got cut loose in Sept I was told I had 6 mos.
That ends towards the end of March.
The house goes on the market end of February if I haven't found something.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (sr7ZF)

97 Log prof I don't feel like the following is going into m. night territory but I think the dysfunction of Kevin costners character is going to get annoying.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2013 08:09 PM (RZ8pf)

98 91 Why rubber when steel is so much more satisfying?

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:09 PM (9XBK2)

99 So those moocher parents deliberately and patiently coach their kids to feign appropriate behaviors when the social workers are around, to get the "crazy money" that such behaviors elicit from officialdom.

****

Just sickening.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:09 PM (piMMO)

100 You're gonna have a bad time.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at January 28, 2013 08:10 PM (q177U)

101 91 Why rubber when steel is so much more satisfying?


Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:09 PM (9XBK2)


It's a riddle.

Posted by: Conan the Barbarian at January 28, 2013 08:10 PM (uhAkr)

102 96
I keep hearing about 99 weeks of unemployment. When I got cut loose in Sept I was told I had 6 mos.

That ends towards the end of March.

The house goes on the market end of February if I haven't found something.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (sr7ZF)
are you white?I think you only get the extra year and a half if you voted for obama and can prove to be atleast 1/32 of a minority, like black or cherokee...

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 08:10 PM (+OTLF)

103 Picking up a cheap .38spl is turning out not to be a bargain. The .38 stuff was not on my prepanic hoard list.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:10 PM (QupBk)

104 I keep hearing about 99 weeks of unemployment. When I got cut loose in Sept I was told I had 6 mos.
That ends towards the end of March.
The house goes on the market end of February if I haven't found something.

****

Did they extend the 99 weeks or did it revert back to the standard?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:11 PM (piMMO)

105 97 Worse than Shamalama is Lost territory.Say,do they employ any writers that worked on Lost?

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:11 PM (9XBK2)

106 If Obama had a cock it would look like Moochelle's Vagina. Just sayin....think about it.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 08:11 PM (+OTLF)

107 I want to be pissed, but I just can't. This is attitude is so far outside of what I believe and the way I was raised that I honestly can't comprehend what these shitballs are doing. It just does not compute.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 08:11 PM (GEICT)

108 "But aid is not there to be a bridge during resets aid is there to buy donkey votes."

Yes, because only donkeys receive government aid. That damned 47%.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:11 PM (Hz1zc)

109 Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (sr7ZF)


Sorry to hear that teej, hope something comes along soon. One question, did you lose a union job or not? That might have something to do with the 99 weeks.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 08:11 PM (Cnqmv)

110 93 "And they teach their children how to milk the system as well."

Go talk to some people who've worked in the education-industrial complex.

They'll explain that moocher-class parents took about ten nanoseconds to realize that they'd get extra money every month if their offspring were diagnosed as "learning disabled" or as "behaviorally disordered".

So those moocher parents deliberately and patiently coach their kids to feign appropriate behaviors when the social workers are around, to get the "crazy money" that such behaviors elicit from officialdom.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (gqT4g)

--As another Moron noted a few months ago, notice how adept these people are at gaming the system, yet Democrats would have us believe that they're too stupid or unable to get a photo ID to vote.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 08:12 PM (jVAw4)

111
Ya know, if the makers had the outlook of the takers, this crap wouldn't have gone this far. It woulda been an underground economy a long time ago.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 08:12 PM (Sptt8)

112 Yes, because only donkeys receive government aid. That damned 47%.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:11 PM (Hz1zc)


All of them!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 08:13 PM (uhAkr)

113 98 91 Why rubber when steel is so much more satisfying?

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:09 PM (9XBK2)




"Because it'll hurt more, you idiot!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 08:13 PM (GEICT)

114 --As another Moron noted a few months ago, notice how adept these people are at gaming the system, yet Democrats would have us believe that they're too stupid or unable to get a photo ID to vote.

****

Which is COMPLETE horseshit.

Those drawing a check have I.D.s to cash them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:13 PM (piMMO)

115 111


Ya know, if the makers had the outlook of the takers, this crap
wouldn't have gone this far. It woulda been an underground economy a
long time ago.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 08:12 PM (Sptt
Stop Hiring democrats.Give people discounts for cash transactions.Fire any democrats you have employed.
4 years...problem solved.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 08:13 PM (+OTLF)

116 OT

Al Sharpton explains the 2nd Amendment

“Absolutely, I mean if you look at the Second Amendment it was that you would have militia to protect yourself in case the government came and attacked citizens,” he responded.

“First of all, if the government were to come to disarm you, you would not be able to use an automatic weapon to defend yourself. Let’s be serious. We’re in a world of drones now so the Second Amendment would not help you in that area. It is absurd to try to cite that.”

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 08:13 PM (8sCoq)

117 Hell, even I can roll balls of shit for living.

Posted by: Dung Beetle at January 28, 2013 08:14 PM (SzAZ7)

118 97 Log prof I don't feel like the following is going into m. night territory but I think the dysfunction of Kevin costners character is going to get annoying.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2013 08:09 PM (RZ8pf)

--You mean Kevin Bacon? I'm not being snarky; I actually genuinely hope Costner was not in it because if he was I totally missed it. As for the Bacon character, I think at least the rampant alcoholism is a realistic touch.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 08:14 PM (jVAw4)

119 108 Whoredan,

No your environmental nutballery, unions destroying whole sectors of US production, minimum wage fetish, perverse entrapping nature of welfare benefits have all created a nice wide underclass fucknuts....

I crawled out and sooner or later some of this next wave of imported Free Shitters will too....it's part of human nature the yearning for the freedom to succeed or fail...

You guys NEED to sell zero-sum retardation or your whole scheme falls apart.

I hate democrats because they look at 15% U6 and say "that's a good start."

Fuck you

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:15 PM (LRFds)

120 Obama would be aghast at this story. 40 cigarettes a day between them! This will never do! Pay them an extra $50/week for a cessation program!

Posted by: Bang Out Of Order at January 28, 2013 08:15 PM (1H47k)

121 They voted absentee in Chicago for Obama.


Twice

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:15 PM (wR+pz)

122 Have you ever heard of Angel Adams, Tampa FL Welfare Queen? Somebody needs to pay for her chilrrens!http://www.wfla.com/story/20565853/who-is-really-responsible

Posted by: ALH at January 28, 2013 08:15 PM (eqV3Q)

123 117 You are like the Mike Rowe of insects with a "Dirty Job".

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:15 PM (9XBK2)

124 Hey, on the bright side, a pack a day habit should off these scum pretty earely in life. Oh who am I kidding, these cockroaches live forever.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 28, 2013 08:15 PM (hpYnL)

125 Hey Sven, check out this straight pull Swiss Schmidt-Rubin http://is.gd/j0E1xL

Not my cup-a but interesting.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:16 PM (QupBk)

126 We’re in a world of drones now so the Second Amendment would not help you in that area. It is absurd to try to cite that.”

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 08:13 PM (8sCoq)



Excellent point Al!


Drones for the private consumer!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 08:16 PM (GEICT)

127 There's something not quite right about the story, and not just the lazy grubbers. In the UK you do have to actively look for a job....Job Seekers and sign that you do so. So, according to the commenters, these idiots just announced to the world they are breaking the law and defrauding the government. Are they really that stupid and would The Sun participate in this fiasco? Also the commenters noted that buying that amount of ciagrettes would leave them with very little based on their income and their other claims , unless of course they are getting money from the parents. And in Britain if you have available family who can give you housing you aren't supposed to get rental assistance. I'm wondering if it's phoney.

Posted by: Deanna at January 28, 2013 08:16 PM (6wsvj)

128 In the UK they call these people CHAV's

Council House (the projects) Always Violent.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (wR+pz)

129 Worked for the state DOT. They have a union. Never joined. Have no idea how all this crap works and I'm not going to learn how to game the system for a living.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (4IyOI)

130 :::108 "But aid is not there to be a bridge during resets aid is there to buy donkey votes."

Yes, because only donkeys receive government aid. That damned 47%.
Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:11 PM (Hz1zc):::

Relax, Jordan. Nobody would ever accuse you of being as lazy as Gina.

You'd never turn down £110 per hour to suck cock.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (JDIKC)

131 116 Jones in CO,

Yeah that is why his party said and I quote, "we cannot win in Iraq or Afghanistan."

Hey Al I'll play a little game with you, we start at opposite ends of John Bryan State Park you use a drone, and I'll use my bolt rifle.....

if that's the game YOU want to play like you seem to.....

if the Feds are gonna try to kill me let's get it overtly on the table as Democrat policy and get the game started buddy.

Is that what you're saying $lim $hady?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (LRFds)

132
I don't know how much coaching a welfare mom would have to do to claim a kid is attention deficit or learning disabled. Environment counts for a lot in child rearing, and neglecting a child to tv (cartoons and cable R and MA movies) and electronic games will warp them pretty well.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (Sptt8)

133 Justamom of the LIB Camp,
Tales of squatting in the UK always horrified me too. So I wasn't really surprised to read yesterday that it's already here:

Squatting in Style: 23-Year Old Occupies Empty $2.5 Million Boca Home
http://tinyurl.com/azf9beu

Posted by: jeannebodine at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (x0dlI)

134 Democrats would have us believe that they're too stupid or unable to get a photo ID to vote.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 08:12 PM (jVAw4)



But we all know that is just the cover story. Photo ID and voter verification just makes it harder to cheat, that's why the Dems oppose it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (Cnqmv)

135 OTAl Sharpton explains the 2nd Amendment“Absolutely, I mean if you look at the Second Amendment it was that you would have militia to protect yourself in case the government came and attacked citizens,” he responded.“First of all, if the government were to come to disarm you, you would not be able to use an automatic weapon to defend yourself. Let’s be serious. We’re in a world of drones now so the Second Amendment would not help you in that area. It is absurd to try to cite that.”
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 08:13 PM (8sCoq)

Does he speak English ?Thanks for the subtitles.

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (nTgAI)

136 When the math catches up to this house of cards and they realize they can’t take our money, they won’t hesitate to take our blood. We owe it to them.

Posted by: FURPC at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (0ImZM)

137 The house goes on the market end of February if I haven't found something.
Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:08 PM (sr7ZF)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hey teej, where do you live and what do you do?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (jucos)

138 And I'm just guessing... Pompey supporters? Though the decor in their flat suggest Southampton, but their act is Pompey to the core. Skiving, layabout drunks.

Posted by: Bang Out Of Order at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (1H47k)

139 Oops yeah bacon. No idea why I typed Costner. I guess it is realistic but still found it annoying. Actually other than the serial killers sexy accent I found the whole show annoying.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2013 08:18 PM (RZ8pf)

140
Meh, when the money runs out and nations replace cushy benefits with a bunk in a military barracks and cafeteria chow to keep poor people from starving in the streets, maybe allowing parents to share a private room with their young children this problem can self-correct very very quickly.


When the money runs out, we will have anarchy. Just wait.

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:18 PM (Ag5D2)

141 "I crawled out and sooner or later some of this next wave of imported Free Shitters will too....it's part of human nature the yearning for the freedom to succeed or fail..."

I'm glad you and your family are not in poverty, even if me and mine had to sign your paycheck all those years. Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:18 PM (Hz1zc)

142 The govt breaks your legs than scoffs that you're taking govt aid against your beliefs.

Screw them.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 28, 2013 08:18 PM (FsUAO)

143
And we get to add another 10 or 12 million soon too. As a side note, the house is working on the immigration bill too. Gotta get it done before the plebes raise a ruckus. got a do it, go, go, go.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 28, 2013 08:18 PM (p/cQy)

144 >
And I still want to know which one of you moron cornered the market on .38spl SWC. The stuff is pricier than .223


I had one box of 50 which I shot up with the Model 10 a week ago. Then I bought a box of 20x JHP to reload. The gun is resting comfortably on my bedside table.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 08:19 PM (8sCoq)

145 seriously. If i was king, i would start deporting on day one and set up live target shooting ranges all along to border on day 2.

On day three i would round up the media and give them the choice...work camps in alaska or medical testing in place of monkeys.


Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 08:19 PM (+OTLF)

146 Actually, now that you mention it Al, if the govt has drones and the 2nd Amendment is designed to protect against the govt, I have a right to shoulder fired stingers and surface to air missiles.


Al Sharpton is a genius!


...............


Fuck! That really hurt saying that. I think I pulled a muscle.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 08:19 PM (GEICT)

147 126 BC 1981,

They're called RC airplanes and napalm......

You have to love these fucks openly saying they will use whatever means necessary when they were bitching about RoE while our people died....

Democrats openly worrying more about their nation's OPFOR than their fellow citizens with whom they disagree since 1929...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:19 PM (LRFds)

148 Reposted from stomped threads below -

Category : Seduction
Entrants :

Jeannie - she of the perfect
stomach and magically delicious curve - revealing costume. A little
control freak with a mean streak. Took forever to get to "Master"
despite YEARS of " let me grant your every wish" . I really believed
something was deeply wrong with Larry Hagman's character as a kid.

Samantha - smoking hot but another control freak : Huge Mother in law baggage issues.

Mary Anne - cute and sexy in a girl next door way but you always sensed that there was a radical feminist waiting to emerge. whiny.


Winner:
Ginger - mistress of the double entendre " I have been on this island
for years. Can you get me off?" with a buttery vanilla sugar voice that
always suggests saxophone, and satin sheets. The things her lips and
tongue did when she said "Gilligan" made teenage boys lock the doors and
throw fears of blindness aside. She owned every man on the island with a few breathy-whispered words. I can still almost imaginary-smell her
through the camera all these years later. Honey coconut smoky hawt.



Also The New New Republic Sucks and the London.

Also "spay and neuter the Empire's pets" seems to be appropriate here.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 08:20 PM (EZl54)

149
Which is COMPLETE horseshit.

Those drawing a check have I.D.s to cash them.


THIS! THIS!

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:20 PM (Ag5D2)

150 133 It would be hilarious if they squatted in the homes of millionaire Obama supporters.

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:20 PM (9XBK2)

151 Of course, if we had a robust economy, like we once had, the formerly productive wouldn't need government largesse.

That's why the first things Com/Progs do when they infest any government is to destroy the economy. It's a modern method of slavery, accomplished over many years.

I can't help but wonder what could've been, had we the fortitude to take the early proponents of Communism to the nearest lamp pole when they first started to take root here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 28, 2013 08:20 PM (+z4pE)

152
"The USA in a couple of years"
To be blunt, WV now. Anyone seriously think that folks such as this would vote for a politcal party pushing spending limits?

Posted by: Jess1 at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (lbiWb)

153 Hey Teej and PGIS!

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (Ag5D2)

154 Don't blame them. They are making the correct economic decision. They have worked it out. Just like thousands here with their EBT cards.

They are smart, we are dumb to offer this to them. Don't fuck with them, fuck with the dumb fucks that allow this.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (wR+pz)

155 141 Whoredan,

My mother died of liver and brain cancer after going batshit crazy when i was 10-12.....

I moved out on my own and took no aid from the time I was 15, my father paid more in child support than our benefits.....

"thanks for playing"

Aid is one thing fucknuts, your game is another.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (LRFds)

156 128 In the UK they call these people CHAV's

Council House (the projects) Always Violent.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:17 PM (wR+pz)

--Is that true, or just a backronym?

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (jVAw4)

157 Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:20 PM (Ag5D2)


Direct Deposit!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (Cnqmv)

158 Keeeee-rist all this crap in one day. Its like the opening recap from an episode of Soap without the funny

Posted by: Bigby's Ringtossing Hands at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (RLTt1)

159 You've got to be cruel to be kind
In the right measure
Cruel to be kind--it's the very design

Posted by: Cane them; cane them both at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (I88Jc)

160 “First of all, if the government were to come to disarm you, you would
not be able to use an automatic weapon to defend yourself. Let’s be
serious. We’re in a world of drones now so the Second Amendment would
not help you in that area. It is absurd to try to cite that.”>>

Yes and the proof that guys with guns and an internet connection can't stand up to our military is played daily in Iraq and Afghanistan. It will not be head on it will be slow bleed. Unfortunately for Americans that stand up the ROE will be much looser.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (qo244)

161 I'm starting a new letter to Congressman Bonner. My hook is "It's nice to know that you can afford to take time from spending my children into penury to add thirty million more Democratic voters."

Sessions and even Shelby I'm civil with. Bonner, not so much.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (QupBk)

162 Squatting in Style: 23-Year Old Occupies Empty $2.5 Million Boca Home

***

His big mistake, strategically, was in over-reaching.

In order for his ploy to work, he must pay the $40k in taxes each year for 7 years.

He should have aimed lower.

Asshole.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:22 PM (piMMO)

163 Hi Runningrn!

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2013 08:22 PM (RZ8pf)

164 Juan Williams making Chris Mathews look smart.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:22 PM (wR+pz)

165 154 Billy Bob,

We can't the victims refuse to run the risk to believe in themselves which was why I fought the fucking left my whole life....

I thought...I really thought we had them on the ropes in 1994-2006.

We failed America and a lot of American's failed faith in the better angels of human nature and drive.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:22 PM (LRFds)

166 "Sessions and even Shelby I'm civil with."

But will you be civil with Senator Saban?

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:23 PM (Hz1zc)

167 @148
Also The New New Republic Sucks and the London couple above will make excellent Soylent.

/drunk

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 08:23 PM (EZl54)

168 Can we have a fun thread?!

Please!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:23 PM (piMMO)

169 Unfortunately for Americans that stand up the ROE will be much looser.


Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 08:21 PM (qo244)


Oh God yeah. They'll shoot anybody who is a registered Republican.They can go to Jordan's house to get the guns to do it. Since he has all guns.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 08:23 PM (uhAkr)

170 160 Buzzsaw,

No doubt....make no mistake Giggles would love to make us his new video game.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:23 PM (LRFds)

171 I hate all welfare including SS/Medicare - which combined are over 80% of the welfare budget.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at January 28, 2013 08:24 PM (LSTjp)

172 Fuck! That really hurt saying that. I think I pulled a muscle.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 08:19 PM (GEICT)



*hands over cookie*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 28, 2013 08:24 PM (Gk3SS)

173 It gets hard to put up with him now, that he is over
65 and having weight problems and needs knee surgery. And he loves him
some Obamacare. Worthless parasite.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at January 28, 2013 07:56 PM (RFeQD)


He won't, and the bleating of the sheep is going to EPIC. Frankly, some days it's my only solace. Sad isn't it? I'm reduced to hoping to survive the meltdown just long enough to see those who reaped it consumed by it, and by consumed, I mean utterly, weather it's your loser cousin realizing that he's incapacitated and confined to a single room because his only "treatment" option is happy pills, or the screams of the FSA as they die in fire and riot. It's...um, kinda scary that these feelings are real.

Posted by: DWatkans at January 28, 2013 08:24 PM (aH+zP)

174
From the link:
"Gina, flaunting fake tan and perfectly manicured nails, said: “I don’t see that we’re living off the taxpayers, we’re entitled to the money our parents paid all their lives.
“They’ve worked so hard since they left school and I’m sure they’d rather it went to us than see us struggle. They pay a lot of tax, and although they’d rather we weren’t in this situation and one of us had a job, they understand why we are where we are. We can’t help it, we’re stuck like it.”
Danny, who quit his job as a supermarket shelf-stacker after eight months, admitted: “I could easily go and work for my dad. He’s got a job for me, but could only afford to pay for my travel and accommodation because I’d be going around the country.
“After that he wouldn’t be able to afford to pay me a wage, so I’d be worse off.
“The same would happen if I was to work somewhere like a supermarket. If I was earning less than £26,000 a year, there wouldn’t be any point. I’d be no better off. Who in their right mind would do that?” The pair spoke after we revealed last Sunday that Lithuanian Natalija Belova, 33, branded Britain “a soft touch” for giving her £14,408 annual benefits. Mum-of-one Belova told how she lives a life of luxury in Watford, Herts, thanks to our “strange system”, adding: “I am not going to work like a dog on minimum wage.”

Oh, and they're thinking of having another child! And why not?
AT THIS POINT, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?



Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:24 PM (Ag5D2)

175 We let people on the dole vote. How could it turn out any other way?

Posted by: Invictus at January 28, 2013 08:24 PM (OQpzc)

176 Piss off, Clarence.

If Jon shows up, we can have the three Dunces in one thread.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:25 PM (QupBk)

177
The squatter with the 40k taxes could simply sublet.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 08:25 PM (Sptt8)

178 @168
Can we have a fun thread?!




this isn't ?


*hic*

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 08:25 PM (EZl54)

179 Honey Boo Boos across the pond.

Note the story also has a bit on a Lithuanian immigrant who works for her money.

Keep that in mind when assuming immigrants are shiftless takers while our citizens are not. Its a mixed bag.

Posted by: Sexypig at January 28, 2013 08:25 PM (dZQh7)

180 *hands over cookie*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 28, 2013 08:24 PM (Gk3SS)




Dear Leader! You are benevolent and kind.


And dark and terrible!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 08:25 PM (GEICT)

181 Juan Williams making Chris Mathews look smart.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:22 PM (wR+pz)


Juan WIlliams, Alan Colmes, and Bob Beckel--the "mercy" hires at FNC. They waste more air time and oxygen than the rest of the entire FNC staff!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 08:25 PM (Cnqmv)

182 Jack up their ration of fags to maybe six packs a day. They can't last long.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at January 28, 2013 08:26 PM (PH+2B)

183 Of course,left wing economic policies insure that there wont be enough jobs even if you want to work.

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:26 PM (9XBK2)

184 It gets hard to put up with him now, that he is over
65 and having weight problems and needs knee surgery. And he loves him
some Obamacare. Worthless parasite.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at January 28, 2013 07:56 PM (RFeQD)

He won't, and the bleating of the sheep is going to EPIC. Frankly, some days it's my only solace. Sad isn't it? I'm reduced to hoping to survive the meltdown just long enough to see those who reaped it consumed by it, and by consumed, I mean utterly, weather it's your loser cousin realizing that he's incapacitated and confined to a single room because his only "treatment" option is happy pills, or the screams of the FSA as they die in fire and riot. It's...um, kinda scary that these feelings are real.

****

From Craigslist, via twitter:

http://t.co/W26Nad7v

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:26 PM (piMMO)

185
You think this has been a weird day, Hugh Hewitt is proposing that all the new illegal made legal kids get school voucher money. Not the current US residents but the former illegal aliens. Bizarro World.

He thinks if they get it, the dems will eventually have to give it to everyone. I just laughed. These are supposed to be our conservative talkers?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 28, 2013 08:26 PM (p/cQy)

186 On a very closely related note:

In an interview with Breitbart News Editor-at-Large Ben Shapiro, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) made the astute observation that Barack Obama is not just skeptical of our Constitution, but also has an alternative model in mind: the South African constitution.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/28/Obama-s-South-African-Inspiration-Why-It-Matters

The left is obsessed with a particular section of the South African constitution: its Bill of Rights, which includes so-called “positive,” or socioeconomic rights: the right to housing, the right to a clean environment, the right to health care, the right to food and water, and so on. South Africa's Bill of Rights also prevents discrimination on the basis of a wide range of categories, including both gender and sex, culture, sexual orientation, and pregnancy.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2013 08:26 PM (9Bj8R)

187 Dear Leader! You are benevolent and kind.





And dark and terrible!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 08:25 PM (GEICT)



Oh go on, you. No. Really. Go on.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 28, 2013 08:26 PM (Gk3SS)

188 PLANNET P PROJECT
Myt mind.

Posted by: CAC at January 28, 2013 08:27 PM (tq6qN)

189 Seriously, Toby. FICA taxes cost me a lot more than the miniscule Food Stamp program.

These old geezers need to get off the dole.

Fuck Social Security. And Medicare. They are the budget busters.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at January 28, 2013 08:27 PM (LSTjp)

190 Dude, you're a dunce.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:28 PM (QupBk)

191 186 NGU,

yeah well is necklacing still a sport there?

Yeah amazing protection that Constitution thing eh?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:28 PM (LRFds)

192 @165

Economics has no feeling. You look at the decision by who made the decision and look at the alternative choices for them.

Did they make the right decision?

Yes, they are not stupid, lazy yes. It a function of risk reward. Is the effort for that addition dollar worth the risk of losing the guaranteed dollar.

For many no skilled non educated people NO.

They would work if they had no other choice.

Take the other choice away.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:28 PM (wR+pz)

193 Someday my people will rise up, cast off their shackles, and pop into Tedesco for a bag of crisps.

Posted by: Piers Morgan, populist at January 28, 2013 08:29 PM (I88Jc)

194 Oh go on, you. No. Really. Go on.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 28, 2013 08:26 PM (Gk3SS)




You have large, beautiful, dangerous, awe inspiring, can't take your eyes off them.......Raptors.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 08:29 PM (GEICT)

195 There is no answer short of the burning.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:29 PM (QupBk)

196
Not enough jobs.
Permanent welfare and votes.
Print and spend into oblivion.

I really would like to know more about this New Order Amish. I would be willing to give up, uh, something or other, for the peace of mind of not feeding the beast.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 08:29 PM (Sptt8)

197
The left is obsessed with a particular section of the South African constitution: its Bill of Rights, which includes so-called “positive,” or socioeconomic rights: the right to housing, the right to a clean environment, the right to health care, the right to food and water, and so on. South Africa's Bill of Rights also prevents discrimination on the basis of a wide range of categories, including both gender and sex, culture, sexual orientation, and pregnancy.

They can effing move to South Africa then! Geez! Hate that!

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:29 PM (Ag5D2)

198 189 Herbie Hymenpooper,

They are con games to fortify your piggy bank and now you want to raid the cookie jar even harder.....

I can get a better rate of return off of picking up soda and beer cans off the road...

shows your team's awesome fucking fiscal sense.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:30 PM (LRFds)

199 93 - torquewrench - you just explained why there is suddenly a BIG increase in the number of kids diagnosed with ADHD, etc! News reports have mentioned this - and now I know why = more FREE money.
Govt idiots surely see this, but they don't care, because they are giving away our money.

Posted by: carolina at January 28, 2013 08:30 PM (z2shr)

200 93-Torquewrench. SPED teacher 7/8th here now after being in my own business. "Learning disability" is a scam. Means
'not motivated' and parents don't give a shit. Except for the check. Oh and they'll sue a SPED teacher in a heartbeat. Because we're not doing enough to help their lazy drug dealing sack o' shit kid learn. They have every angle down. Don't know if I can do it one more year.

Posted by: If u love me, you'll kill me at January 28, 2013 08:30 PM (XLuH2)

201 I really would like to know more about this New Order Amish. I would be willing to give up, uh, something or other, for the peace of mind of not feeding the beast.

No shaving for men, and women cannot cut their hair.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:30 PM (QupBk)

202 Truck monkey- NE KS.
10 years experience analytical lab tech.
5 years experience geotech technician.
10 yrs locksmithing.
I've also been a puppet a pauper a pirate a poet,, a pawn and a, well never a king exactly.
There are a lot of things I could do or learn fairly quickly.
But you have to have certificates for this, certificates for that.
Really? I have to go to school to learn how to count pills and make labels?
Get real.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:30 PM (kmLUz)

203 progs have been obsessed with "positive" rights for the last 30 years. Its the path to socialism, Even communism. Its not about restricting what the government can do to you, its about the redistribution of wealth and the FSA

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2013 08:30 PM (Dnbau)

204 As Insty says: "something that can't go on forever...."

Posted by: Jess1 at January 28, 2013 08:31 PM (lbiWb)

205
yeah well is necklacing still a sport there?


Winnie Mandela loved that game!

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:31 PM (Ag5D2)

206 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2013 08:26 PM (9Bj8R)


Ah, but the South African Constitution was written by post-apartheid enlightened individuals, not "old white men", so it must be better than the US Constitution! Like Barry said, the problem with the US Constitution is that it keeps the government from doing things to you (or at least it pretty much did for 200 years).

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 08:31 PM (Cnqmv)

207 192 Billy Bob,

While true it is worse than that.

They artifically knock out wide sectors of industry the US could still be competing in, and subsidize useless endeavors for political gain for their favored class.

I am not the one who coninced that Occutard Bitch to go six figures into debt to go to the Ivy League to learn "wine tasting."

That was all moonbats baby.....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:32 PM (LRFds)

208 "Take the other choice away."

Spoken like a true conservative. Reproductive rights? Take the choice away. Marriage equality? Choice is overrated. Want to buy health insurance from another state? No choice for you!

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:32 PM (Hz1zc)

209 Teej, KS is probably not in the high unemployment #'s to get the feral government extended bennies. That is reserved for effed up blue states like commifornia.

Posted by: In before the folks preaching forced strerilization or worse at January 28, 2013 08:32 PM (dkExz)

210 yeah well is necklacing still a sport there?>>

I assume your talking about the car tire gasoline kind and not the ZZ Top Pearl ones?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 08:33 PM (qo244)

211 Now it's the Giligan bit by vampire bat episode.

Ginger in two piece hawaiian skirt thingy




I SO wanna be shipwrecked...

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 08:33 PM (EZl54)

212
Really? I have to go to school to learn how to count pills and make labels?
Get real.


Teej, would you qualify for any"retraining" benefits in another field if you are being laid off? This is an extreme example, but I had a friend who was a mechanical engineer who got laid off from the Navy Yard when it closed in Philly, and he went to medical school (and part of that was covered by his "retraining" benefits.)

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:33 PM (Ag5D2)

213 The left from long ago(starting with the Progressives) has wanted positive rights.They hate the Constitution with it's egative rights.Remember Baraka himself in that old radio interview.

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:33 PM (9XBK2)

214 210 Buzzsaw

well yes but both actually.....

there's a reason they ran like hell bud.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:34 PM (LRFds)

215
Well since most of the population of S. Africa is still squatting in the mud or a hot metal shanty, I would say their idea of a "right" to housing is pretty low.

Its not a bug, its a feature.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 28, 2013 08:34 PM (p/cQy)

216 215 Guy Mohawk,

well they passed a law and thus it was so....

socialism and communism in Africa are almost as successful a post colonial model as Muslim batshittery....

Go self-rule!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:36 PM (LRFds)

217 Spoken like a true conservative. Reproductive rights? Take the choice
away. Marriage equality? Choice is overrated. Want to buy health
insurance from another state? No choice for you!


This coming from the party that banned the incandescent light bulb, cut the size of soda, take away firearms, and tax candy bars.

Your idea of freedom is redefining ten thousand year old concepts, killing babies, and shouting at Christians.

You guys suck.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 08:36 PM (uhAkr)

218 What do you morons think "entitlement" programs are?

Over 80% goes to your base - old fuckers (SS/Medi). Food stamps are only $75 billion and the Ag-based GOP (or Dem) Senators won't allow that to be cut.

All this "welfare" shit is a dog-whistle for NI**ERS!

CUT SPENDING NOW!! ALL OF IT!

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at January 28, 2013 08:37 PM (LSTjp)

219
FWIW, I have a friend (who might be reading this now!) who was telling me the other day that one of his friends (whom I also know through him.) was unemployed.
He was looking for work but the job market had crashed during this time (this was like the 08-10 period somewhere in there.)
So he was collecting unemployment at like 80% of what he was making prior to the crash. He got offered a job for $11/hr or so and turned it down. Because unemployment paid more.
Last I asked I think he was still unemployed but by now even the 99 weeks has run out for him. So at least reality gets the last laugh.

Posted by: tsrblke at January 28, 2013 08:37 PM (GaqMa)

220 teej - unemployment time is determined state by state depending on the unemployment rate in the specific state. A lot of states have reduced their over all unemployment rate to the point that they no longer offer an extended program
I guess you could move to a blue state, or move up to the oil fields in the NW - where even starting pay at the local walmart is $17/hr!

Posted by: carolina at January 28, 2013 08:37 PM (z2shr)

221 Hugh Hewitt got his marching orders

Posted by: TexasJew at January 28, 2013 08:37 PM (lD8ju)

222 I take it back. If Jon/Olaf showed up the density of the Three Dunces would form a singularity.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:37 PM (QupBk)

223 MA is planning to tax soda, Jordan.

Fuck you and your 'freedom-loving' party.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 08:37 PM (uhAkr)

224 Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:33 PM (9XBK2)

The original US Constitution defines what the government cannot do to you.



The progressive US Constitution would define what the government can do to you with a proviso that even if it isn't actually written down, the government can do it to you anyhow.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 08:37 PM (Cnqmv)

225 217 Bevel L,

Killing a Light bulb class is freedom....killing a baby is a right....

yeah lovely fucking souls ain't they?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:38 PM (LRFds)

226 Just saw the picture of the lovely couple. That dude's hair looks fucked up. Is he 21 and wearing a toupee?

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 08:38 PM (jVAw4)

227 All the assholes are coming to this thread,we must have hit a nerve.

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2013 08:38 PM (9XBK2)

228 The call of the tapeworms.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:39 PM (QupBk)

229 221 texas jew,

yeah well like I said I hope hubery Hymenpooper likes one party rule...this gun's retired.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:39 PM (LRFds)

230 It is like Downton Abbey, for the common man!

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at January 28, 2013 08:39 PM (4kTo2)

231 This coming from the party that banned the incandescent light bulb, cut the size of soda ... You guys suck."

Bush and Bloomberg. The Dems have no monopoly on stupid.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:39 PM (Hz1zc)

232 Hey Jordan,

To rectify the unfairness, I recommend that you end your hypocrisy and give all of your shit to the poor so that they have a "choice".

Start with your laptop/PC.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 08:40 PM (EZl54)

233
If we look back we can see a lot of warning signs that we were gonna lose big in 2012.

For instance: Obama's illegal aunt goes on tv and boldly says that we had an "obligation" to take care of her.

That didnt bother people one bit, apparently.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2013 08:40 PM (DYWM0)

234 Damn trust fund babies

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 28, 2013 08:40 PM (I2LwF)

235 Juan WIlliams, Alan Colmes, and Bob Beckel--the "mercy" hires at FNC.
They waste more air time and oxygen than the rest of the entire FNC
staff!


FNC pretty much sucks. I can't stand their primetime line-up. They blabber back and forth, spitting out basic talking points and never really exploring issues. Screw 'em all.

Having said that, I don't see the problem with them hiring people from the other side in order to debate. Makes perfect sense. Get a back-and-forth debate going.

As for Bob Beckel, I think he'd be a riot in Vegas. I'd just make sure we didn't talk politics.

Posted by: ElKomandante at January 28, 2013 08:41 PM (xIUnF)

236 What idiot thinks Bloomberg is a Republican?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2013 08:41 PM (9Bj8R)

237 As for Bob Beckel, I think he'd be a riot in Vegas.

Don't take a check from him.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 08:42 PM (QupBk)

238 SS is welfare disguised as retirement pension.

It, like all the other doles, corrupts the receiver.

The Democrats created it to buy votes and weaken any opposition.

It works until the money is gone.

Posted by: eman at January 28, 2013 08:42 PM (jp2Ur)

239 HOLY SHIT!

Even Frum gets it!

FUCK FUCK FUCK

Frum gets the GOP just fucked itself.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:42 PM (LRFds)

240 teej, I can get you a job in Manhattan, KS. It's not too high paying, but fits with your DOT background.

email my nic putting an underscore betwwen the salt and the dog. then @ksbroadband.net

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 28, 2013 08:42 PM (u82oZ)

241 Liberals' desire to question their party's orthodoxy is directly proportional to the length of time until the next election. Party before country!

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 08:42 PM (Tt6ky)

242 "What idiot thinks Bloomberg is a Republican?"

He was elected as such. Like Bush.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:42 PM (Hz1zc)

243 "And in Britain if you have available family who can give you housing you aren't supposed to get rental assistance."

Well, in America, if you're not a citizen, you're not supposed to fucking VOTE, but guess what? Many illegal aliens do it anyway.

Along with collecting Medicaid and other bennies which are supposed to be for citizens.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2013 08:43 PM (gqT4g)

244 As for Bob Beckel, I think he'd be a riot in Vegas.

***

The folks on The Five really seem to like him, despite his politics.

Dana Perino said he's become one of her very closest friends.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:43 PM (piMMO)

245 233 If we look back we can see a lot of warning signs that we were gonna lose big in 2012. For instance: Obama's illegal aunt goes on tv and boldly says that we had an "obligation" to take care of her. That didnt bother people one bit, apparently.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2013 08:40 PM (DYWM0)

Nor did the fact that his drunk dumb ass uncle hit a police car in MAand got off scot free...also in the country illegally, naturally.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 08:43 PM (7xPCu)

246 >The progressive US Constitution would define what the government can do to you


and all the things the individual would NOT be allowed to do:

smoke
own guns
kill animals
be mean to any super-protected identity group
etc
etc
etc

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 08:43 PM (8sCoq)

247 231 Whoredan,

Brought to you by Granny McRictus.....

and Bloomberg is a "no labels" shithead who has long since left our party....

nice try fuck you

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:43 PM (LRFds)

248 "What idiot thinks Bloomberg is a Republican?"

He was elected as such. Like Bush.
Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:42 PM (Hz1zc)


Pick up a Newspaper sometime. He has not been a Republican,and he was in name only then, in many many years.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2013 08:44 PM (9Bj8R)

249 Bring meh another pint ya fookin' coont...and change the nappy on the wee one. It smells like shyte.

Fook the fookin gov'mint. Why can't the coonts send cash..now I hafta git off me arse and take this fookin' cheque to the bank

Posted by: Danny Creamer at January 28, 2013 08:44 PM (Yhu4q)

250 New 'Deep Thought' thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:44 PM (piMMO)

251 @207

I don't think it was wine tasting. WSJ had story about dumb bitch at some small mid west college, $85,000 in debt for a degree in music.

What did she think, she was going to be Madonna?

Now she wants us to forgive her debt for her stupid fucking choice.

NO, burn in hell. Bad decisions MUST be punished or a free market will not function.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:45 PM (wR+pz)

252 242 Whoredan,

Ogabe was elected as a demcorat and is not a Mar...never mind I see where you're going with this...well played asshole well played

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:45 PM (LRFds)

253 Democrats were pro-choice on slavery too. Well, for the slaveowners. They don't want slaves or babies to have a choice.


Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 08:45 PM (Tt6ky)

254 Face it, you non-enviromentalist troglodytes don't understand the resurgence of and demand for solar panels that will occur after we close all the coal-burning and nuclear power plants.

Posted by: "Nameless" Power Plant Czar at January 28, 2013 08:45 PM (Cnqmv)

255 Either i'm right or you're wrong

Posted by: Piers Morgan, intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:45 PM (I88Jc)

256 My parents are lazy pussy limey wankers.

Posted by: Tullullah-Rose at January 28, 2013 08:46 PM (ZOf1l)

257 >As for Bob Beckel, I think he'd be a riot in Vegas.



he's as shameless a DNC hack as ever lived

I mean the guy's got a string in his back- you pull it and he says 'tax cuts for the rich' and '2 wars on a credit card'

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 08:46 PM (8sCoq)

258 At least give this couple a kudos for being truthful. As an economic truth, there really is no sense in them working. They are just being honest, if you avoid the moral issues involved. In fact, they are being a lot more honest than our MFM reporting in general.

It reminds me of TFG's Aunt Zeituni, who expressed the attitude that while she didn't vote for the system, she is certainly entitled to take full advantage of it. Section 8 housing, free medical, cash, food -- all while an immigrant here illegally.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2013 08:46 PM (ccXZP)

259 You short-sighted Neanderthals just don't get it....let me break it down and simplify it for you. People receiving welfare don't need to worry about working. People who don't need to work have more time to shop and go to the mall. People who shop and go to the mall produce profits for businesses, which results in more tax dollars for the government, which results in more generous welfare payments, which enables more welfare recipients and even more shopping!

Eventually, if we follow President Obama's ingenious vision, no Americans will have to worry about working and we may finally achieve true economic fairness for all.

Posted by: Honest Lib at January 28, 2013 08:47 PM (PTS+l)

260 Thanks running, and I don't know. I don't want any govt bennies anyway. If it wasn't for screwed up union crap I'd still have a job. The only good thing about the whole thing is that the "typical state worker" I'd been carrying the last five years is probably getting a little taste of his own medicine.

HR depts are so screwed up nowadays it's ridiculous. Can't just drop off a resume with classes, references etc.
Let them take two minutes reading it and say "Hey, this guy would be a great fit in this position."

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:47 PM (Pwz7h)

261 No one could survive in politics if he or she were to acknowledge the most elementary fact of humanity and statistics -- that half the people are to the left side of the median of the bell curve of intelligence. What that means is that about 47.5% of Americans have IQs between 70 and 100 -- i.e., two standard deviations from the median. Don't like that fact? Does that fact make you feel nervous? Are you worried that someone will call you a bad name if you mention that fact? Join the club of every politician in public life. It is the great unmentionable.

But what it means is that, for roughly 150 million Americans, they can either get unskilled or semi-skilled manufacturing jobs that aren't a lot of fun, or they can be on the dole. If you make the dole attractive enough, of course they won't want to work at a job that isn't much fun. And that, increasingly, is what we've done.

Actually, we've done worse. At the same time as we've created a system that incentivizes not working and disincentivizes working, we've also conspired, through the genius of liberalism, to create an economy increasingly hostile toward the very type of manufacturing jobs that the left side of the bell curve could do. We've installed the idiocy of the minimum wage, and we've permitted a regime of hyper-regulation that rewards lawyers (the right side of the bell curve, at least most of them I've met), and punishes the left side of the bell curve by making it difficult to build factories where they could work.

And don't be a sap. The people on the left side of the bell curveare not going to become rocket scientists, no matter how much money you pour into public schools or subsidized college loans. So we can either (a) create a society where there are a lot of manufacturing jobs and a system that rewards hard work and punishes sloth, which is what we would do if we really cared about the poor; or else(b) create a society where there aren't a lot of manufacturing jobs, but there is an overly generous dole, with disability and unemployment and welfare and food stamps and Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security. One leads to dignified productive citizens, the other to the pitiful examples in the article.

Goodness gracious, a 21 year-old man and an 18 year-old woman, and they are convinced that their lives are over, and they can never improve them! That's about the saddest thing I've ever read. Do liberals understand howtheir welfare system dehumanizes people? Do they care at all?

Posted by: The Regular Guy at January 28, 2013 08:47 PM (nov+8)

262 253 Democrats were pro-choice on slavery too. Well, for the slaveowners. They don't want slaves or babies to have a choice.
Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 08:45 PM (Tt6ky)

Also, conservatives are not exactly eye to eye with Republicans, and we're not prone to defending or excoriating politicians solely by what letter follows their name.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 08:48 PM (7xPCu)

263 202 tej. "I have to go to school to count pills and make labels?"
_____________________
Exactly! School is a scam. It's a welfare system. Academia slices every degree so slim to get certified. Then the state adds a test as an add on. For a designation in this little area or that. And bend over. Open your wallet.

Posted by: If u love me, you'll kill me at January 28, 2013 08:48 PM (XLuH2)

264
Good grief! I just read the link about Angel Adams Welfare Empress (I think "Queen" doesn't suffice). On the one hand, 10 of her 15 kids were from the same dad.

I did find the irony in this sentence quite rich:
"Three of the children were no longer living with her when we first met her, because they were above the age of 18 and no longer eligible for government benefits..."

So when the kids turn 18, she boots them out because she can't get any money for them any longer. Smart lady! The adult children are a drain on her finances at that point. Gee, maybe if the government stopped paying unwed mothers benefits every time they pop out a kid, they would stop having them!

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:49 PM (Ag5D2)

265 Bush and Bloomberg. The Dems have no monopoly on stupid.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:39 PM (Hz1zc)
Oh please Jordan. Bush didn't vote against removing the bulb ban in 2011 - your party did, with only 5 democrats voting to remove the ban.Your party are statist pricks. Their major goal is to control every aspect of our lives.
Massachusetts is going to tax soda and candy bars. That will go unmentioned because all you give a shit about is killing babies and redefining ten thousand year old institutions.



Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 08:49 PM (uhAkr)

266 Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 08:43 PM (8sCoq


In a truly progressive society, the government can do things to you based on what you as an individual do, say, publish, or think, so nothing but good can come of it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2013 08:49 PM (Cnqmv)

267 261 The regular Guy,

No they do not care, so long as the fuckers vote correctly.

I LIKE to work.

Work is how one shows praise to creation and honors their forebears....fuck when did that lose validity in our culture?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:50 PM (LRFds)

268
Eventually, if we follow President Obama's ingenious vision, no Americans will have to worry about working and we may finally achieve true economic fairness for all.



Oh yeah, I forgot that for every $1.00 the gubamint spends, it brings in $1.40. That's advanced Pelosi math for you nitwits out there!

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 08:51 PM (Ag5D2)

269
So...

Does anyone here read John Ringo? Specifically, has anyone read his book "The Last Centurion"? I was skimming through a collection of (legal) Baen free books and stumbled across this one. The plot is more or less non-existant (it's more of a "travelogue" for the setting he provides than an actual plot).

In short, a really nasty version of the flu causes a world-wide epidemic. Even with flu shots (many of which are mishandled, and there aren't enough to go around to begin with), there's a 20% fatality rate in those parts of the world that manage to keep the deaths low. Then, contrary tothe screaming of all of the global warming nuts, the Earth chooses that year to start its decent into a newmini-Ice Age (not as in "glaciers inMontana",buta lot ofprime Midwestern farmland suddenly gets colder than expected). And the President of the United States is a thinly veiled expy of Hilary Clinton with aDemocratic congress supporting her in power as she slowly starts to crack. But ignorethe character'sgender, and she'd probably make an even better stand in for TEH WON.

The reason I mention it is that Baenmakes the first several chapters oftheir books available for free on their website (the book in its entirety can be downloaded for free from the Fifth Imperium website), and reading it might provide at least a little bit oftherapy for some of the LIB folks here.

Posted by: junior at January 28, 2013 08:51 PM (UWFpX)

270
If Angel Adams had three kids over the age of 18 who weren't receiving benefits, they musta been boys.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 28, 2013 08:51 PM (Sptt8)

271 If we're all responsible for each other, then no one is responsible for themselves. And soon, no one is responsible at all.

Posted by: zsasz at January 28, 2013 08:51 PM (MMC8r)

272 "Also, conservatives are not exactly eye to eye with Republicans, and we're not prone to defending or excoriating politicians solely by what letter follows their name."

Of course they are. Elected conservatives, like elected liberals, are more partisan than I can ever remember. For every example of inter-party cooperation, there are ten of partisan deadlock, to all our detriment.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:51 PM (Hz1zc)

273 262 Also, conservatives are not exactly eye to eye with Republicans, and
we're not prone to defending or excoriating politicians solely by what
letter follows their name.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 08:48 PM (7xPCu)

Eff that. Democrats are all lying, evil, baby-killing communists. All of them.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 08:52 PM (Tt6ky)

274 Lincoln freed the slaves?

Bull fucking shit, only the ones in the South in the hope that they would rise up.

The emancipation proclamation applied only to South States.


Your slave in KY, MO, sorry brother you still in "chains"

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 08:52 PM (wR+pz)

275
>>>New 'Deep Thought' thread up

This has nothing to do with me.
42.

Posted by: Deep Thought at January 28, 2013 08:52 PM (XUF75)

276 "Work is how one shows praise to creation and honors their forebears....fuck when did that lose validity in our culture?"

About the time you started advocating the dissolution of the United States.... say around seven PM on November 06.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:53 PM (Hz1zc)

277 Of course they are. Elected conservatives, like elected liberals, are
more partisan than I can ever remember. For every example of inter-party
cooperation, there are ten of partisan deadlock, to all our detriment.



Bipartisanship leads to lefty insanity like passing an incandescent lightbulb ban.


No thanks.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 08:53 PM (uhAkr)

278 Fuck Bill Moyers with an assault stapler.

Hmmm. 3300 fps staples.

Just brainstorming here.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at January 28, 2013 08:54 PM (Z5BDI)

279 Thanks salty dog. I'll shoot you what I've got tomorrow.
Manhattan is, or used to be a great little town. The drive is about 1 3/4 hrs for me.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:54 PM (hDena)

280 Do liberals understand howtheir welfare system dehumanizes people? Do they care at all?

****

Yes, and yes.

Of course they care. It's part of their strategy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 08:55 PM (piMMO)

281 "274 Lincoln freed the slaves?"

Yep. The Emancipation Proclamation paved the way for the Thirteenth Amendment, which Lincoln made a plank of his reelection platform.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:56 PM (Hz1zc)

282 276 Whoredan,

No I'd say the first time I saw "serious" thought on "break it up!" was In early November 2000-Jan 2001 asshole....

I just take you fucks at your word now.

You say the red state model is the drain show me fuckwit....

"let my people go!" I think is how you fucks swoon over it in Yugoslavia and such.....

If the red States are the ones holding you back why not join me in an ART V and take the blue dick out of industry's ass and let the red get back to work?

That way you and giggles can tax your way to heaven on Earth and we'll work our asses off.

Matter of fact we'll even take 2/3ds the debt and all since you know "it is our fault" right Whoredan?


Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 08:59 PM (LRFds)

283 Of course they are. Elected conservatives, like elected liberals, are more partisan than I can ever remember. For every example of inter-party cooperation, there are ten of partisan deadlock, to all our detriment.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 08:51 PM (Hz1zc)

--You make no sense. Conservatives like me for the most part love gridlock; the less government is doing, the better.

Posted by: Ines Sainz, crack reporter at January 28, 2013 09:00 PM (jVAw4)

284 Never give a politician credit for doing what is popular. The American people freed the slaves by voting for anti-slavery politicians. The credit goes to the American people.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:01 PM (Tt6ky)

285 fucking Jordan.

Another cocksucking know it all control freak that can't understand how anyone could not want to suck his Kenyan boyfriends dick.

All dumbfuck watered down, 60k in debt arts degree Jordan wants you to know is that this time , they are going to do tyranny THE RIGHT WAY.

For your OWN GOOD.

I look forward to the expression on your stupid face when Obama feeds your hipster douchey ass into his chipper shredder in order to make room for his latest pet sycophant.


Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 09:01 PM (EZl54)

286 /big-assed reporter sock

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 09:02 PM (jVAw4)

287 278 Fuck Bill Moyers with an assault stapler. Hmmm. 3300 fps staples. Just brainstorming here.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at January 28, 2013 08:54 PM (Z5BDI)

Yeah, I can't tellwhether he needs a hug or a hundred more diseased cocks rammed down his esophagus.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:02 PM (7xPCu)

288 If the government picks up all your living expenses, then the meth sales earnings are 100% bank, right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 28, 2013 09:02 PM (GlnE7)

289
If Angel Adams had three kids over the age of 18 who weren't receiving benefits, they musta been boys.

Ha! That could have been an answer to one of those logic puzzles. You could certainly make up some great story problems about her and her brood.

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2013 09:03 PM (Ag5D2)

290 red counties produce food.
blue cities do not.


understanding this is key.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 09:03 PM (EZl54)

291 Danny and Gina are my kind of peeps!

Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at January 28, 2013 09:03 PM (vbh31)

292 285 T Hunter,

Yeah it's gonna be amusing watching the last rats fight over the last cheese....

it got pretty sporty at the end for the apparatchniks....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:04 PM (LRFds)

293 "If the red States are the ones holding you back why not join me in an ART V and take the blue dick out of industry's ass and let the red get back to work?"

I believe in America, and our union. I'd rather have extreme conservatives like you contributing to political discourse, curbing your analogs on the left, than see our country dissolve into a bunch of banana republics. I respect your right to speak your mind, in this or any other forum, and I would hate to see conservatives disavow political process in favor of violent revolution. Melodramatic? Sure, but as much as I mock your rebel rants, I like having you in the conversation.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:04 PM (Hz1zc)

294 "Not doing the jobs foreigners won't do, either."

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at January 28, 2013 09:05 PM (tUT9B)

295 Have you ever heard of Angel Adams, Tampa FL Welfare Queen? Somebody needs to pay for her chilrrens!

***

I remember reading about this a couple of years ago.

I know they claim that putting the children in foster homes is more expensive, but NOT putting them in foster homes will be, in the long run, FAR MORE expensive.

Get the children out of her reach.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 09:05 PM (piMMO)

296 288 If the government picks up all your living expenses, then the meth sales earnings are 100% bank, right?
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 28, 2013 09:02 PM (GlnE7)

There's probably finders fees. And I think you have to pay for your own ammunition/needles/rabid fighting dogs.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:05 PM (7xPCu)

297 290 T Hunter,

Yup it is why they sell slavery....

I hope those fucking ethanol subsidies spent well farmers....Barry's got plans for you.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:05 PM (LRFds)

298 I believe in America, and our union. I'd rather have extreme conservatives like you contributing to political discourse, curbing your analogs on the left, than see our country dissolve into a bunch of banana republics. I respect your right to speak your mind, in this or any other forum, and I would hate to see conservatives disavow political process in favor of violent revolution. Melodramatic? Sure, but as much as I mock your rebel rants, I like having you in the conversation.
Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:04 PM (Hz1zc)


And yet you voted for Obama. An extreme liberal that wants to run this country as a Banana Republic. Go fuck yourself you cocksucking liberal twit.

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2013 09:06 PM (GULKT)

299 297 290 T Hunter,Yup it is why they sell slavery....I hope those fucking ethanol subsidies spent well farmers....Barry's got plans for you.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:05 PM (LRFds)

Meh...he's not motivated enough to have plans of his own outside of tee times and blunts.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:08 PM (7xPCu)

300 Quit busting on Aunt Zeituni. Jordan has assured us she makes America better just by living there.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 09:08 PM (jVAw4)

301 293 Whoredan,

Horseshit Whoredan.

You fuckers are human waving the US to take away my liberty and when the magic moment hits scrap the document.

You could not have in good conscience pulled the lever for Giggles mcFuckstick a 2d time otherwise.

Bitch Solis is whining she did not get to assfuck farmers with her little regulatory fiat game because we stopped you fucks cold....

but I KNOW as sure as the sun rises in the east you're not cowed you're just waiting until the next time.

I fucking hate you bastards who hate the system that led to all this fucking wealth who saw the great depression as a 'crisis too good to let go to waste" I would happily look at you bastards on a ship to fucking EUrope where your bullshit has already failed.

Go fuck a chainsaw.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:09 PM (LRFds)

302 Article V IS a political process, not a violent revolution. Federalism is also a political process, and one that works a lot better than majoritarianism.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:09 PM (Tt6ky)

303 300 Quit busting on Aunt Zeituni. Jordan has assured us she makes America better just by living there.
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 09:08 PM (jVAw4)

Then she could make some nondescript African shithole better by living there as well, right? And don't they need that more than we do?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:10 PM (7xPCu)

304 Sigh. I don't 'ave a snowball's chance in hell, guv'nor.

Posted by: Tullulah-Rose at January 28, 2013 09:10 PM (vbh31)

305 "Article V IS a political process, not a violent revolution."

Yes, but Sven here, our little traitor, is more the "go fuck a chainsaw" type.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:12 PM (Hz1zc)

306 Jordan's problem is that it has NO IDEA what extremism is.


Jordan has never encountered serious "pipe hittin " extremists except in it's naughty movie download collection.

Like Obama, Whore-dan equates radical thought experiments as "extremism" and he and his pussy kind must SHUT THAT SHIT DOWN before SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS.




Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 09:12 PM (EZl54)

307 All liberals are liars who care only for their own aggrandizement. They don't care about actual suffering; they just care that other people think they care. If liberals actually cared about helping the poor, or assisting the suffering, they'd do the tiniest bit of research into what actually works. Instead, all they care about is proclaiming their own supposedly superior virtue.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:12 PM (Tt6ky)

308 Jordan, it's your "blue states union" that would be the banana republic. The "red states union", free, prosperous and with immigration rules that would keep your worthless backside out.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 09:12 PM (B5s0p)

309 Let's also keep in mind that at the same time the Gov't has made it easier to take handouts, they've made it harder to work hard and keep what you earn. They've also made it hard to make a niche for yourself. The paths to earning money are structured and restricted by laws, rules, licenses and taxes.

Stop the handouts but also stop the over regulating Nanny State. I think they'd find it balances out.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka 3 tooth) at January 28, 2013 09:12 PM (3E2th)

310 The safety net has become a hammock

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2013 09:13 PM (OYGrx)

311 302 John J,

Yup...I unlike the democrats will follow the system in trying to end the error.

They keep trying to 'deem and pass' shit....

Article V break it up shut it down.

Whoredan doesn't get it I plan to use La Raza against his super state.

Step one is backing "independence for Cali through referenda"

If need be.....

Life hands you lemons punch a fucking moonbat in the nuts.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:13 PM (LRFds)

312 They called Martin Luther King Jr. an extremist too. Here's his response: "You speak of
our activity... as extreme. At first I was rather disappointed that
[you] would see my nonviolent efforts as those of an extremist. I began
thinking about the fact that I stand in the middle of two opposing
forces... One is a force of complacency... The other force is one of
bitterness and hatred...

I have tried to stand between these
two forces, saying that we need emulate neither the 'do nothingism' of
the complacent nor the hatred and despair... For there is the more
excellent way of love and nonviolent protest...

Oppressed people cannot remain oppressed forever."

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:15 PM (Tt6ky)

313 307 All liberals are liars who care only for their own aggrandizement. They don't care about actual suffering; they just care that other people think they care. If liberals actually cared about helping the poor, or assisting the suffering, they'd do the tiniest bit of research into what actually works. Instead, all they care about is proclaiming their own supposedly superior virtue.
Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:12 PM (Tt6ky)

The teenybopper magazines told them that 'caring' was in, and that the most important thing about caring was letting everybody within earshot repeatedlyknow that you were very concerned about caring.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:15 PM (7xPCu)

314 This bunch is a blight on Old Blighty

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2013 09:15 PM (OYGrx)

315 teej at January 28, 2013 08:54 PM

You're on the other side of Topeka, then? I don't know if we pay enough to make it worth your while. The Mercury has some job ads that pay more, for more specialized experience.

The relatively good news is that you can be hired locally for what we do here in Manhattan.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 28, 2013 09:15 PM (u82oZ)

316 Life hands you lemons punch a fucking moonbat in the nuts.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:13 PM (LRFds)

...if they had any.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:16 PM (7xPCu)

317 A California independence referendum? Hmm...

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:16 PM (Tt6ky)

318 305 Whoredan,

Whoredan I don't want Obama to fuck a chainsaw I want YOU to fuck a chainsaw because you try to thwart the Constitution by extralegal means there fuckhead....

without fucks like you giggles would never have signed an EO.

Barky is a red diaper baby programmed marxist it is why i can't see his curricula vitae bud....

I can't hate him forbullshit he was quite literally programmed in his whole life....I do hold Jerry Wright's racial bullshit against him but "meh" jerry Wright couldn't exist without your cover either....

no it is YOU Jordan your type I hate more than anything on this earth, the faux intellect entitled who thwart industry and accept blindly the edicts of marxist domination of academia and entertainment.

YOU chose this whoredan.

Go fuck a chainsaw

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:17 PM (LRFds)

319 Sven wants the constitution followed and you want to go around it when you're not destroying it and you call him the traitor?
Progressivism- the ultimate mental disorder.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 09:17 PM (hDena)

320 Mummy says I need to embrace the Caliphate, whatever that means.

Posted by: Tullulah-Rose at January 28, 2013 09:18 PM (vbh31)

321 313 The teenybopper magazines told them that 'caring'
was in, and that the most important thing about caring was letting
everybody within earshot repeatedlyknow that you were very concerned
about caring.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:15 PM (7xPCu)

Liberalism in a nutshell. "Everyone look at me!"

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:18 PM (Tt6ky)

322 317 A California independence referendum? Hmm...
Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:16 PM (Tt6ky)

Is that a euphemism for creating the legal structure for kicking their ignorant hippie asses to the curb and making use of the wonderful real estate they are squandering?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:18 PM (7xPCu)

323 Accusations of extremism is the way the left pulls the middle farther to the left.

Your tactic is transparent . Jordan.

If you really wanted a "United" States , you would be advocating for the most divisive figure in America to be President of America instead of President of the Moonbats.

You bitches just want control. Divide and conquer.

Fuck. You.


Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 09:19 PM (EZl54)

324 320 Mummy says I need to embrace the Caliphate, whatever that means.
Posted by: Tullulah-Rose at January 28, 2013 09:18 PM (vbh31)

I think in theoriginalArabic it means "bend over".

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:20 PM (7xPCu)

325 319 Teej,

Get used to it....

my deciding finally that Billy Ayers and the left were correct means I am a traitor since they are in fact "the man now"

Anyone who thinks the left will let us "be a cancer" like we stupidly allowed ourselves to let fester for 80 years needs help.....

it is the main reason I am reconsidering leaving I do not think the Constitution has enough friends to be kept alive.

I know the "Gang of 8" is no such friend.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:20 PM (LRFds)

326 You'd think that hauling in $2400 a month, we could mix in a dentist. Sheesh.

Posted by: Tullulah-Rose at January 28, 2013 09:20 PM (vbh31)

327 I love how this forums just drips with hate. It's what keeps me coming back. Keep it up, Sven.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:20 PM (Hz1zc)

328 324 320 Mummy says I need to embrace the Caliphate, whatever that means.
Posted by: Tullulah-Rose at January 28, 2013 09:18 PM (vbh31)

I think in theoriginalArabic it means "bend over".

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:20 PM (7xPCu)

--BOHICA is derived from an Arabic word, right?

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 09:21 PM (jVAw4)

329 Pouring moral scorn is sort of silly WHEN THEY ARE RIGHT.

People aren't stupid. In a welfare state, when you get a job, even a crappy little job, you lose.

Those deserving scorn are the ones who figure that people don't act like people and that they can set up these programs the way they are set up without far reaching and dire consequences.

Posted by: Synova at January 28, 2013 09:22 PM (7/PU+)

330 "If you really wanted a "United" States , you would be advocating for the most divisive figure in America to be President of America instead of President of the Moonbats."

I think Lincoln was actually the most divisive president, and he would have had my vote as well.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:22 PM (Hz1zc)

331 S of Topeka a ways. My geotech experience was foundation strength testing on soil and geology cores. Worked the drill trucks some too.
I could be wrong but I don't think any private firms do the strength testing except one or maybe two in KC.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 09:22 PM (m9GfP)

332 That's not hate, Jordan.

but it's dripping from your rectum.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 09:22 PM (EZl54)

333 Did I just say "sheesh"? I meant "blimey", of course.

Posted by: Tullulah-Rose at January 28, 2013 09:22 PM (vbh31)

334 327 Whoredan,

I know you're a troll....

feeding on hate is what you fucks do....you don't get it I was raised to hate communists and then one day was left mainly with only Chinese communists who half-assed it to hate.....

then YOU guys came totally out of the closet when Bush won and a nice warm fire rekindled Jordan.....

You keep on coming back and I'll keep on feeling warm.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:23 PM (LRFds)

335 Truck monkey- NE KS.

10 years experience analytical lab tech.

5 years experience geotech technician.

10 yrs locksmithing.

I've also been a puppet a pauper a pirate a poet,, a pawn and a, well never a king exactly.

There are a lot of things I could do or learn fairly quickly.

But you have to have certificates for this, certificates for that.

Really? I have to go to school to learn how to count pills and make labels?

Get real.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 08:30 PM (kmLUz)

teej, you ought to polish up your resume, particularly on the first two items, and shop it around in the oilfield service industry here in Alberta. Core Labs is just one of a number of companies that might have a place for you: http://www.corelab.com/

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2013 09:23 PM (29+x5)

336 "You keep on coming back and I'll keep on feeling warm."

Sounds like a deal to me.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:24 PM (Hz1zc)

337 Jordan,

read the article above.

That is your future. Your president built it for you.


Enjoy!

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 09:24 PM (EZl54)

338 until the money runs out..........

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 09:25 PM (EZl54)

339
Jordan: Your political compassion for us haters must warm your little liberal heart. Now go home.

Posted by: Daily Dish at January 28, 2013 09:26 PM (+b3dK)

340 Going to go over to Daily Kos to bathe in the love....BRB...

Posted by: zsasz at January 28, 2013 09:27 PM (MMC8r)

341 329 Synova,

eh close....

they deserve scorn for accepting their lot in life at least happily enough to maintain the status quo ante rather than build....yes I know MATH! says they're correct but when the young and able do not push for s system that lets them also aid in carrying the truly disabled there is no morality to it.

Not all jobs are worth the left's imaginary "minimum wage" and there are some REALLY nice jobs that are not worthy.

The dish washer at a diner making minimum wage means there are less slots for low level labor and the pricing structure of the economy and the baseline price for goods and services gets disrupted.....

they simply will never comprehend the insidious nature of their price control fetish.

I'm pretty sure jordan has won in this nation and everything I believe will be proven right as it always is, and it will not matter because by then we will have trained people that living in sterile soviet caves is the most we can hope for.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:27 PM (LRFds)

342 Who's this bloody fool wanker, Jordan? 'E sounds just like me shiftless dad.

Posted by: Tullulah-Rose at January 28, 2013 09:27 PM (vbh31)

343 Liberal: I totally would have voted for someone who lived a hundred years ago and is popular today! Everyone acknowledge how virtuous and courageous I am!

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:28 PM (Tt6ky)

344 "That is your future. Your president built it for you. "

He's your president too. How about we lay aside the hate and work together for fiscal responsibility, for immigration reform that strengthens America without compromising our principles, for the right to own the guns we choose, for the right to marry whom we choose, for the right to live our lives as we choose with minimal intrusion from our governments? There are lots of things conservatives and libertarian progressives (like me) can agree on. Our country doesn't have to burn.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:28 PM (Hz1zc)

345 335 Alberta oil Peon,

Yeah there is also good cash to be made in locksmithing TM. I still have some of my tools and course books from when I was trained at the Wreckers' in Louisiana. I am getting to the point where I am going to get get past people "cheating" the welfare system.

Our political "betters" just assured me illegals gaming the system are "the bestest Americans we really need" so "why not?"

Unequal enforcement is now a way of American life.

Ole ole ole ole ole

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:29 PM (LRFds)

346 "everything I believe will be proven right as it always is, "

Lolocaust.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:30 PM (Hz1zc)

347 @sven

Liberals understand that their policies cause suffering and misery. They just don't care. That's why they're evil.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:30 PM (Tt6ky)

348 344 Whoredan,

How about you go fuck yourself.

I watched your side's tantrum for 8 fucking years....14 if you count post 1994.

Your idea of "work together" is "fuck you let's go full retard."

Fine....full retard it is....

I'll let you and the GOP retards nuke the nation....

I'll sit it out.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:30 PM (LRFds)

349 Alberta? Canada?
Thanks for the thought but no.
I had been wondering about oil companies and their maybe using GC and/or GC/MS labs though.
Out in the fields testing crude?
Only at refineries?
Anyone know?

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 09:31 PM (aqj6v)

350 327
I love how this forums just drips with hate. It's what keeps me coming back. Keep it up, Sven.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:20 PM (Hz1zc)
This is nothing. If you want to see real hate drippies, just get a few democrat idiots together and mention bush or palin.Btw, jordan, i was wondering if you would be interested in sucking my dick, cause i hear you are pro after all the obama dick sucking you have been doing.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 09:31 PM (+OTLF)

351 The left wallowed in assassination fantasy and lihop/mihop for eight years. But we're the ones that have coarsened the dialogue.

Posted by: zsasz at January 28, 2013 09:32 PM (MMC8r)

352 Liberals would have advocated unity and working together under President Romney just as much as they actually did under President Bush: not at all.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:32 PM (Tt6ky)

353 They 'produce' the most valuable 'product' of these times...

A ballot, and another kid for another ballot, eventually...

Posted by: Mr Wolf, Esq at January 28, 2013 09:32 PM (UIAT6)

354 344
"That is your future. Your president built it for you. "



He's your president too. How about we lay aside the hate and work
together for fiscal responsibility, for immigration reform that
strengthens America without compromising our principles, for the right
to own the guns we choose, for the right to marry whom we choose, for
the right to live our lives as we choose with minimal intrusion from our
governments? There are lots of things conservatives and libertarian
progressives (like me) can agree on. Our country doesn't have to burn.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:28 PM (Hz1zc)
How about no. How about you and your fucking piece of shit incompetant asshole in the white hose both choke on the fucking heffer Michelles dick till you both turn blue and drop dead?Call me so i can send flowers to the funeral.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 09:33 PM (+OTLF)

355 See Jordan, your self rightousness is getting irritating. The "Can't we all find common ground and get along" routine is stupid. You are clearly stupid. Really, go home.

Posted by: Daily Dish at January 28, 2013 09:34 PM (+b3dK)

356 "Really, go home."

I am home.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:34 PM (Hz1zc)

357 351 The left wallowed in assassination fantasy and lihop/mihop for eight years. But we're the ones that have coarsened the dialogue.
Posted by: zsasz at January 28, 2013 09:32 PM (MMC8r)

No shit...if Obumbles were to be offed, it would of course be from a lefty...right now they sure could use a martyr to rally around, it seems. Simple minds require simple ideas.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:36 PM (7xPCu)

358 No way Baby...this is not your home. Trust me on this. You are too irritating to be at this party.

Posted by: Daily Dish at January 28, 2013 09:37 PM (+b3dK)

359 Liberals are co-dependent attention whores. That's why they make such good internet trolls.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:37 PM (Tt6ky)

360 I think the Brits have finally defined the living wage

Posted by: Secret squirrels ballz und sheft at January 28, 2013 09:38 PM (0SmH0)

361 "The left," whatever that means, wallows in the same violent fantasies as Sven does. It was despicable when Bush was president and it's despicable now. But fun to mock!

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:38 PM (Hz1zc)

362 359 Liberals are co-dependent attention whores. That's why they make such good internet trolls.
Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:37 PM (Tt6ky)

and such lousy humans. not even good for pets, without some do-it-yourself lobotomy kits and broad spectrum antibiotics.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:39 PM (7xPCu)

363 If liberals can't incite any right-wing violence soon, they'll have to fake it. They're champing at the bit to have some violence to celebrate.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:39 PM (Tt6ky)

364
I saw this article over at IOTW. One of the commenters, named Chieftan, said this, "Those who work for a living are rapidly overwhelming those who vote for a living."
.
I thought it was brilliantly succint. Big Fur Hat is thinking of putting it on T-shirts.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at January 28, 2013 09:39 PM (JKNDp)

365 357 Model_1066,

It is why I no bullshit pray to God every night that Giggles makes it through is 2 legal terms safe as houses....

no sane conservative can engage in the democrat fetish of assassination porn because the left would use his martyrdom to destroy the US Constitution.

I leave the murder porn to democrats, I just want then to grant me the same thing they granted the Ethnic Albanians.....a peaceful chance to use ballots not bullets....har har to "get a land of our own...."

they wanted it in 2005 or were they kidding?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:41 PM (LRFds)

366 If Civil war happens, i call dibs on jordon.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 09:41 PM (+OTLF)

367 363 JohnJ,

Why do you think they have the Westboro Baptist church?....the left loves false flag ops....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:42 PM (LRFds)

368 Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:41 PM (LRFds)

wasnt it a democrat who murdered bobby kennedy?

and a socialist/communist who murdered Jack?

and i am pretty sure it was a left wing liberal who murdered John Lennon.


Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 09:43 PM (+OTLF)

369 Think I'm gonna check out that "new" thread.
Before I go, Jordan, you and all your fellow "libertarian/progressives should all watch The Silent Scream to see why a lot of us could never join up with you violent sickos.

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 09:43 PM (pozvt)

370 This couple has made a perfectly rational choice in the short term. Now they just need a bit of under the table income to soak the fools writing the checks and have some extra coin to get out of their flat once in a while. Sure it is infuriating that the politics engineered a situation of perverse incentives. Taking advantage of those incentives is a reasonable approach.

The tax payers are the wankers. Sadly wisdom is in short supply within the political class. They even lack the simple understanding of teaching to fish rather than handing out fish. When the money is all gone, things will be quite interesting.

Posted by: who's the wanker at January 28, 2013 09:43 PM (6FvpT)

371 "The left," whatever that means


so Politically. Astute.


Your derive your philosophy from Rodney King but
must . be . HEARD.

fuckin passive aggressive wanker.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 28, 2013 09:43 PM (EZl54)

372 366 If Civil war happens, i call dibs on jordon.
Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 09:41 PM (+OTLF)

Don't let him seduce you so easily...unless extended stays at the Holiday Inn Of Suffering are on the menu. Nah, that's mean. Carry on.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 09:43 PM (7xPCu)

373 "no sane conservative can engage in the democrat fetish of assassination porn because the left would use his martyrdom to destroy the US Constitution."

Of course they do. You and I had a conversation three days ago about a commentator wishing for the death of the SoS.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:44 PM (Hz1zc)

374 Alberta? Canada?

Thanks for the thought but no.

I had been wondering about oil companies and their maybe using GC and/or GC/MS labs though.

Out in the fields testing crude?

Only at refineries?

Anyone know?

Posted by: teej at January 28, 2013 09:31 PM (aqj6v)

Most of this work is done in a lab in the city. It's a 9-5 job, except that in busy periods they may run a night shift. Usually involves preparing cores, or heavy oil sand samples, etc. There may be some similar work available in North Dakota or Montana, too. Wherever there is a boom in oil and gas drilling, there is going to be work in the support industries. And drilling, where not being blocked by greentards, is very busy right now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2013 09:44 PM (29+x5)

375 Although I agree, guy was probably not sane.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:44 PM (Hz1zc)

376 Jordan would happily be Adam Baldwin's character in the Patriot. Though he would not show reluctance in setting the church on fire.

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2013 09:45 PM (GULKT)

377 361 Whoredan,

Right, right you are from the 'GOP never has a good idea oh darn thank God for that sensible Republican Barack obama" because you do not know nor share anything with "the left" because I forgot you are "progressive" "forward" and all that shit....

yeah well Chris Matthews defended the leftoid wank porn, lots on your side did....

I don't indulge in violent fantasies Jordan I know what violence is, and I loathe it.

Almost as much as I loathe tyranny and communism.

You keep on running soft soap "who us?" defenses of your occutard allies....

hell you use the media bias to keep winning elections even....I have spent way too much money and gave too much time anyway....

I really, really wouldn't try to directly thwart the bill of rights if I were you tough bud.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:46 PM (LRFds)

378 "Think I'm gonna check out that "new" thread.
Before I go, Jordan, you and all your fellow "libertarian/progressives should all watch The Silent Scream to see why a lot of us could never join up with you violent sickos."

*shrug*

I'm a pacifist. Unless you're robbing me, you don't have to worry about violence.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:46 PM (Hz1zc)

379 If i had a intellectually dishonest deceptive hate mongering divisive polarizing assfaced half kenyan half white son that was a useless piece of shit and shot his mouth off non stop about anything and everything despite having the intellectual curiosity of a fly shit...it would look a lot like Barack Obama.

Of course i would accidentally have left it out on the hillside for the wolves to feast on.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 09:46 PM (+OTLF)

380 373 Whoredan,

and SoS is just like PotUS......oh wait it is not....

Hey Whoredan this "racist" as you enjoy engaing in calumny on me as is a huge Condi fan....

shall I take you on a trip down memory lane with regards to her treatment?

Fuck you.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:47 PM (LRFds)

381 "They bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun..."

--Conciliator-in-Chief

Posted by: zsasz at January 28, 2013 09:49 PM (MMC8r)

382 Liberals vote for the government to impose their violence because they don't have the balls to rob you themselves.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:50 PM (Tt6ky)

383 368 jeremiah GDABO,

Yes it was and Billy Ayers sent him a 'shout out" in a foreward just like Choom needed to give a shout out when our brothers and sisters died at Ft Hood at the sports arena.....

yeah "class with a K'

speaking of "class" did you recall Maj hasan was a BIG Obama booster?

Yeah I knew you could....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:50 PM (LRFds)

384 "Hey Whoredan this "racist" as you enjoy engaing in calumny on me as is a huge Condi fan...."

We grew up in the same neighborhood. Yes, I'm a fan.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:50 PM (Hz1zc)

385 Liberals believe everyone should be as meek as sheep in accepting their totalitarian, baby killing government.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:51 PM (Tt6ky)

386 384 Whoredan,

sure you are bud sure you are...a "progressive' who backs a "neo con"....

Condi is a big believer in self-defense sport.....

if you "grew up in the same neighborhood" you know why......

and those were democrats not republicans.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:52 PM (LRFds)

387 And I've never accused you of being a racist, Sven. Don't put words in my mouth.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:52 PM (Hz1zc)

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:53 PM (Tt6ky)

389 "Condi is a big believer in self-defense sport....."

Am I not? I'm to the right of Ghengis Khan on gun control.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:53 PM (Hz1zc)

390 It is pretty simple... People who have a job and pay taxes get a big "W" tattooed on their forehead for "Wage earner". Those who are on welfare get a big "L" tattooed on their forehead. This is for "available Labor force". Those with a "W" would receive food stamps in the mail every month, but they would be forbidden from spending them at a grocery store. Only those with an "L" can spend food stamps. So to get their food stamps the "L"s would have to do something for a "W" like mow his lawn, shovel snow, wash his car, paint his house...

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 28, 2013 09:53 PM (SkyIE)

391
389 "Condi is a big believer in self-defense sport....." Am I not? I'm to the right of Ghengis Khan on gun control.
Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 09:53 PM (Hz1zc)


And you voted for Obama to prove it. Go fuck yourself you lying murderous cocksucker.

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2013 09:55 PM (GULKT)

392 Why would I let a liberal mow my lawn? He'd eff it all up. Liberals serve absolutely no useful purpose. They are pure waste.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:56 PM (Tt6ky)

393 392
Why would I let a liberal mow my lawn? He'd eff it all up. Liberals serve absolutely no useful purpose. They are pure waste.

****

You pay after the work is done to your satisfaction

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 28, 2013 09:56 PM (SkyIE)

394 The UK is fucked. Over there when the shit really hits the fan I wonder if the monarchy will rise back up to take control and save the day.

Posted by: Andrew at January 28, 2013 09:57 PM (HS3dy)

395 I'd wind up have to pay someone else even more to un-eff it.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:57 PM (Tt6ky)

396
You pay after the work is done to your satisfaction

The liberal will get the job, then go on strike for more pay and less work, and break the legs of the kid you hire to do it instead.

Posted by: zsasz at January 28, 2013 09:58 PM (MMC8r)

397 @Andrew

I don't think anyone will rise up and save the day, over there or over here. If you want to be saved, I highly suggest you make plans to save yourself.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 09:59 PM (Tt6ky)

398 Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 09:50 PM (LRFds)

If Obama lying in the middle of the road in the desert and was on fire and screaming for help, and i had severe gaseous diareah from eating way too much mexican food all weekend and had been holding it till i was ready to explode, i wouldn't shit on him to put the fire out...but i would pull out the graham crackers hershey bars and marshmallows from the back of the winnebego...so that Moochelle could have a snack...


Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 09:59 PM (+OTLF)

399 "And you voted for Obama to prove it. Go fuck yourself you lying murderous cocksucker."

Presumably, you voted for Romney. Compare their records and tell me again I voted for the wrong guy. Likely, you and I both own guns that Romney banned and Obama wants to ban nationwide. I voted for Obama, but it doesn't mean I support all of his initiatives. I've written to my president opposing new gun control initiatives, urging enforcement of current laws. Have you? Every damned thread on the subject here I adopt the NRA position, (although I hate those chiseling, wine-of-the-month bastards), calling for an overhaul of our mental health care system and greater punishment for violent criminals. Am I wrong?

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:00 PM (Hz1zc)

400 "
If Civil war happens, i call dibs on jordon."


he won't last the first day

Posted by: Andrew at January 28, 2013 10:00 PM (HS3dy)

401 394 Andrew,

I'd go if they called for volunteers of good English stock and stout hearts.

Do my best never to draw a dime from their relief rolls either.

I asked wife if she has ever wondered why we US Conservatives don't just go over there and start working.....

evidently there's a fortune to be made in protection money over there perhaps...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:01 PM (LRFds)

402 Liberals only troll for the attention. The best way to make them go away is to stop giving them what they want.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 10:01 PM (Tt6ky)

403 398 Jeremiah GDABO,


Hey as batman said, "I do not have to save you...."

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:02 PM (LRFds)

404 "Liberals only troll for the attention. The best way to make them go away is to stop giving them what they want."

There will always be a Sven. You can't silence him.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:03 PM (Hz1zc)

405 "I voted for Obama"


Would somebody please ban this shit eater? Uttering the words "I voted for Obama," that ought to be a hanging offense around here. Choosing "none of the above," I could sympathize with that, but actually putting a check next to SCOAMFs name? Go harass people on huffpo.

Posted by: Andrew at January 28, 2013 10:03 PM (HS3dy)

406 397 John J,

It would be nice if maybe the American Legion offered to help Her Majesty with "Child Counseling".....

"youths"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:03 PM (LRFds)

407 404 Whoredan,

Yeah that is why prior to this election build up I was gone for two years with maybe 1000 posts in 12 months.....

I just can't get enough of you fucking retard marxists.....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:04 PM (LRFds)

408 Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:00 PM (Hz1zc)

The electin is over. Please go crawl up baracks asshole and die. Nobody gives a shit about you or your opinions here....just like at your mom;s house.

go fuck off.

If you need directions on how to do that, call the whitehouse.

dickshit.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 10:06 PM (+OTLF)

409 "I just can't get enough of you fucking retard marxists....."

Marxist. Please. You don't know the meaning of the word. Really. If you think Obama is a Marxist, you're displaying only ignorance, which is when you are at your best.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:07 PM (Hz1zc)

410 sven is the alpha and the omega of the comments.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 10:07 PM (+OTLF)

411 " why we US Conservatives don't just go over there and start working"


Why don't we do this here in the USA? This is the John Galt solution. It's also called secession. Things aren't bad enough for this yet. After we have no shit Great Depression x 2 unemployment, this could become a serious option. If you aint got a job anyway, might as well move and join the revolution.

Posted by: Andrew at January 28, 2013 10:07 PM (HS3dy)

412 Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:07 PM (Hz1zc)

Eat more dick.


Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 10:07 PM (+OTLF)

413 *popcorn*

Keep it coming, Sven. Love ya!

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:07 PM (Hz1zc)

414 Jordan is going to be arrested on pedo related charges within the next six months again...

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 10:09 PM (+OTLF)

415 "Marxist. Please. You don't know the meaning of the word. Really. If you
think Obama is a Marxist, you're displaying only ignorance, which is
when you are at your best."


Actually, he called YOU a marxist.

Posted by: Andrew at January 28, 2013 10:09 PM (HS3dy)

416 "Why don't we do this here in the USA? This is the John Galt solution."

An ironic consequence of the Tea Party is the resurgence of Ayn Rand memorabilia buyers. I have two 1e copies of Atlas Shrugged for sale, one in VG condition with original dust jacket, first printing. Any takers? Pics for those who are interested.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:10 PM (Hz1zc)

417 "Marxist. Please. You don't know the meaning of the word. Really. If you

think Obama is a Marxist, you're displaying only ignorance, which is

when you are at your best."


This does raise an interesting point though. Mr. Jordan, I'm curious why your kind don't like being associated with words like "communism" or "marxism". Are you ashamed of your faith?

Posted by: Andrew at January 28, 2013 10:13 PM (HS3dy)

418 "This does raise an interesting point though. Mr. Jordan, I'm curious why your kind don't like being associated with words like "communism" or "marxism". Are you ashamed of your faith? "

I'm an atheist. Faith is for credulous suckers.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:14 PM (Hz1zc)

419 Like Sven.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:14 PM (Hz1zc)

420 That was too trollish even for me. Apologies to believers everywhere. We disagree, but I respect fortitude.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:16 PM (Hz1zc)

421 A favorite form of liberal-b-gone is telling Reagan's jokes about the Soviet Union.

Its hard to get an automobile in the soviet union. They are owned mainly
by elite bureaucrats. It takes an average of 10 years to get a car. 1
out of 7 families owned automobiles. You have to go through a major
process and put the money out in advance. So one man did this and the
dealer said "Okay, in 10 years come get your car."

"Morning or
afternoon?" The man replied.

"Well, what difference does it make?" asked
the dealer.

The man answered, "The plumber is coming in the morning."

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 10:17 PM (Tt6ky)

422 I read Atlas Shrugged in 2008 months before Obama was even seriously considered for the nomination. Her work is dated, but makes for a good political fiction. Go read Rise and Fall of Society by Frank Chodorov. That should be required reading in public school.

Posted by: Andrew at January 28, 2013 10:17 PM (HS3dy)

423 At least we agree that President Obama is a credulous sucker.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 10:19 PM (Tt6ky)

424 409 Whoredan,

You want to use extra-judicial power to take from those who will to those who won't and use the extra-legislative regulatory fiat scheme to destroy the ability of non connected capital to make healthy gain.....

you are at best a fascist with socialist overtones, and at worst a soft communard.

Fuck you.

Your red diaper baby boyfriend won't let me see his currciula vitae but YOU progtards know a Red by the taste of their ejaculate comrade.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:20 PM (LRFds)

425 The Commissar came to the collective farms to see how the harvest was
doing and asked a farmer and the farmer said "Oh, comrade commissar! If
we took all the potatoes, they would reach the foot of God."

"Comrade
farmer, this is the Soviet Union. There is no God."

"That's okay, there
are no potatoes."

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 10:21 PM (Tt6ky)

426 411 Andrew,

I want to do it here, but I must admit I have an affinity for the Motherland despite her turning my family out a few years back....

people don't get the true meaning of go Galt sometimes I hope to live up to it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:22 PM (LRFds)

427 " I read Atlas Shrugged in 2008 months before Obama was even seriously considered for the nomination."

Rand was a real page-turner for me, and I will always respect her for her strength of character and belief. When I worked at Cato, I joked with David Boaz about being an angry young man with a copy of Atlas Shrugged under my arm, but to some extent, I still am. She crystallized arguments about statism and individualism, first in an artistic context in Fountainhead and then the political in AS. I even bought the '64 Playboy with her interview.

Off topic: Do you know how few tits are in a 1964 Playboy? Not many. It's cars and cigarette ads and a dearth of boob. Bush? Keep dreaming. Not in the issue.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:22 PM (Hz1zc)

428 418
"This does raise an interesting point though. Mr. Jordan, I'm curious
why your kind don't like being associated with words like "communism" or
"marxism". Are you ashamed of your faith? "



I'm an atheist. Faith is for credulous suckers.

****

just like all marxists

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 28, 2013 10:23 PM (SkyIE)

429 An Obama voter was attending the inauguration, when he had the chance to ask Obama, "Have you been able to do everything you want?"

Obama said "No, no. We're going to make things much worse."

(Okay, I modified that one.)

Posted by: JohnJ at January 28, 2013 10:24 PM (Tt6ky)

430 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD14kdgQEe8

Ruled by bureaucracy and people dressed in grey.

Posted by: parker at January 28, 2013 10:29 PM (9p/f5)

431 Two words: Palin Steele

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 28, 2013 10:30 PM (QupBk)

432 "just like all marxists


Ayn Rand, who no one could call a Marxist was a major motivator to give up faith for me. She will always have a place in my heart, and my mind, for that.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:37 PM (Hz1zc)

433 432 Whoredan,

Right so you embraced doughy headed Progressivism which is if anything merely happy face marxism...

"because you're a rand fan"....

weak tea Whoredan weak tea....

My grandmother warned me about how much fun it was being from a White Russian family....

"free shit?'

No such thing sport.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:40 PM (LRFds)

434 Say something about Rand worth responding to, and I will, Sven.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:42 PM (Hz1zc)

435 424 Whoredan,

No don't think so....wow you know Rand totally convinced me that there is no God just freewill...and that is why i decided fuck it I will worship wealth redistribution and Ogabe as its profit!

yeah tiger..."yeah" Rand alright....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:44 PM (LRFds)

436 See #434, Sven.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:46 PM (Hz1zc)

437 Well?

We can talk about Ayn Rand all day, tiger sport, because I know her cover to cover.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:51 PM (Hz1zc)

438 Again Whoredan if you read Ayn Rand and came up with whatever the fuck decision matrix led you to Barky Choom then you probably thought playgirl was for hetero males....

well done.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 10:53 PM (LRFds)

439 See #434, Sven. Say something substantive.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 10:57 PM (Hz1zc)

440 But, of course, you can't and won't. Keep frothing and hating and raging and I'll keep mocking you. Can I visit you in the Republic of Texas? I smoke a mean pork shoulder and make my own sauce.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 11:00 PM (Hz1zc)

441 Whoredan,

be someone worth saying anything substantive to and I'll bother.

Again go fuck yourself.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:00 PM (LRFds)

442 Old Soviet: How will the economy be this year?

Older Soviet: Average.

Old Soviet: Average?

Older Soviet: Worse than last year and better than next year--so, average.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at January 28, 2013 11:01 PM (SzAZ7)

443 Mana in the desert, Sven. You're my mana in the desert.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 11:01 PM (Hz1zc)

444 442 Mr feverhead,

Comrade we have 2% growth in an economy having 40 billion pumped up its ass weekly......

HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!

Yeah Whoredan you are a "libertarian pragmatists"....


sure you are buddy.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:03 PM (LRFds)

445 443 Whoredan,

John Wayne Gacy was a son of Illinois who enjoyed eating men as well....

him Bambi and you?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:03 PM (LRFds)

446 JORDAN. 'Can we all get along and have guns and immigration and fiscal conservatism? I mean I'm just a libertarian progressive who voted for Obama...come on lets save the country together...we're brothers man..:
_______
I'm smelling a schizo that's gone off his thorazine..doesn't Obamacare cover that?

Posted by: Guido at January 28, 2013 11:04 PM (XLuH2)

447 Are you, Sven? Fed employee. 47%er. I love mocking you.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 11:04 PM (Hz1zc)

448 "446 JORDAN. 'Can we all get along and have guns and immigration and fiscal conservatism? I mean I'm just a libertarian progressive who voted for Obama."

I hope so. I expect the GOP to turn left on immigration and hold their ground on gun control.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 11:08 PM (Hz1zc)

449 Yep...call the wagon.

Posted by: Guido at January 28, 2013 11:10 PM (XLuH2)

450 447 Whoredan,

I am not a federal employee and I work for a company and have ran a business of my own.

Try again cutie pie.

Wife is trapped in the loving embrace of the Feds and oddly your boyfriend will try to balance the budget on her back but not your EPA buddies.

I am about past being angry and am looking forward to the freedom to either prepare and start laying groundwork here, or chasing gainful employment elsewhere.

Feeding your boyfriend's air force one and free shit habit is getting old.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:11 PM (LRFds)

451 Jotdans Psychiatrist " u know Jordan my secretary has a novel idea of what your dysfunction is...she thinks you're just an asshole"

Posted by: Guido at January 28, 2013 11:13 PM (XLuH2)

452 Sure you are, Sven. I believe you!

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 11:13 PM (Hz1zc)

453 449 Guido,

Yeah he is a "truly principled libertarian" who had to pull for the super statist twice because um "progressive" despite the fact there is NOTHING libertarian about ANYTHING in progressivism.

If Whoredan needs new citizens and is a libertarian why doesn't he join me in pushing for totally open borders and the abolition of the minimum wage, welfare for the able and relaxed hyper-regulatory interference in markets?

Oh because he is a fuckhead control freak super statist that's why.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:14 PM (LRFds)

454 452 Whoredan,

I used to be pissed about you fuckheads' mad desire to cut defense, but since I have come to accept that your boyfriend has license to illegally send our forces to war anywhere on the planet with no permission sought at all I've relented.

Add in my sincere belief that you cannot and in fact do not feel any need to resist any temptation to exert all government power to the security of the collectivist bent in your heart and i view reductions as a force subtraction exercise in the worst case.

Since I know as sure as the fucking sun rises in the east that he will never cut any spending I am certain he will expand the paramilitary DHS that went out of its way to declare my community terrorists.

Hey speaking of which Whoredan did you know the NY donkey who wants the 22d repealed ALSO sought pardons for the Puerto Ricans who shot up Congress mi amigo?

Yes sir your side of the aisle always the peaceful ethical non traitorous fucks....

Point being I saved my money and set aside the money to take the political season off, then found out we;re being reassigned....such is life.

Decided that rather than resume my transport business I would do some jobs for the business I work with here in the metro part time while I get ready for the next town.

I don't need the Federales' teat tiger I made more than spouse gets carrying out your boyfriends' orders....

I just was raised that service to the Constitution and nation was the highest calling besides the priesthood man can answer and my career didn't turn out as I hoped.

Wife asked me to be "mommy" and I have doing side jobs when able.

See Whoredan I LIKE to "work."

Your type wants to "rule" ruling is not "work."

Tough concepts I know...explain to me again how banning light bulbs is "libertarian"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:22 PM (LRFds)

455 "If Whoredan needs new citizens and is a libertarian why doesn't he join me in pushing for totally open borders and the abolition of the minimum wage, welfare for the able and relaxed hyper-regulatory interference in markets?"

Fine with me. Open borders and no minimum wage would help our economy. Let any employer hire any willing employer, for any wage.

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 11:22 PM (Hz1zc)

456 Blech. You get it. Let any employer hire any employee willing to work. Beer!

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 11:23 PM (Hz1zc)

457 Right whoredan that is why you pulled for King Putt fuckhead....


hey can you point m to where the GOP wanted to ban tampons?

I do not remember that being in my to do list?

Take the fucking bow asshole.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:31 PM (LRFds)

458 "Take the fucking bow asshole."

*bow*

Posted by: Jordan at January 28, 2013 11:37 PM (Hz1zc)

459 If you pay someone to sit on his ass, you can't be surprised when he does.

Posted by: Caterpillar Words at January 29, 2013 12:08 AM (Qb7IZ)

460 Homophobic faggotry is par for the course. I expect, and am pleased, you lived up to the world's expectations. Got anything else, like, say an argument?

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 12:35 AM (Hz1zc)

461 Loser.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 12:35 AM (Hz1zc)

462 Didn't think so. Go to bed, loser.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:01 AM (Hz1zc)

463 I came.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:29 AM (xz0nG)

464 Please don't think any more of me than your average shit-eating monkey.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:30 AM (xz0nG)

465 Visited your inner-city libraries recently? I have all the glory hole locations mapped out.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:31 AM (xz0nG)

466 I'm still not sure why we need toilets in every house. Shit is so fascinating.

And Tasty!

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:32 AM (xz0nG)

467 Momma said I shouldn't wear her clothes so I made my own out of Pa's lingerie.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:33 AM (xz0nG)

468 Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:34 AM (xz0nG)

469 What flavor douchebag tonight.

Guys, any ideas?

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:35 AM (xz0nG)

470 Love it. Love it. Keep it coming, losers!

Although, bedtime for me.

Posted by: Jordan at January 29, 2013 01:47 AM (Hz1zc)

471 This is what happens when wages are far too low

Posted by: J S at January 29, 2013 05:50 AM (u8Gdt)

472 Late to this party...but, we calculated that we could get nearly 60k in gov't handouts. All we would have to do is get a divorce, sell our practice and go on the dole. I work for free, essentially, with my spouse. In the third year of owning our own business. We barely cleared that amount the first year after busting our asses, own a home, no health insurance and have 2 kids in college 2 in HS. We are getting back to where we were in 2006 after 3 unemployments-- because the way we see it if you you are white and 50 be glad you can pay your bills. It's been a long road, but we're doing it.

Posted by: DefendUSA at January 29, 2013 07:26 AM (nAHMK)

473 Welcome to Economics 101. If you subsidize bad behavior, you get more of it.

Posted by: Spook at January 29, 2013 09:29 AM (pEkqu)






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