Right or Privilege?

A reminder of the mindset we're dealing with on guns appears below the fold.

We laughed at that. He's serious ... and representative of a sizable swath of the left.

Posted by: Andy at 08:20 AM



Comments

1 This crap better calm down soon, or someone is going to get hurt.

I have one nerve left when it comes to this...and the media in my area (New York region) is banging on this non-stop.

Posted by: trainer @ work at January 29, 2013 08:24 AM (QbdUW)

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:24 AM (8y9MW)

3 I can't watch it at work.

Is he seriously claiming the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a "privilege?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:25 AM (8y9MW)

4
Mock Johnny Edwards - Duty
Have bastard children - right
Access to elected body - priviledge

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:25 AM (UhXzR)

5 And that is why we can't just 'get along'.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 29, 2013 08:26 AM (8cJXl)

6 Anyone who even glances at the women he prefers knows he's an idiot.
That kind of money and, Rielle Hunter. Really....

Posted by: Department of Accuracy at January 29, 2013 08:26 AM (+I8Mq)

7 One of the last things I want to do is listen to that gasbag. Anyone have a transcript?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 29, 2013 08:28 AM (DuH+r)

8
Freedom - priviledge

access to one owns earnings - priviledge

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:28 AM (UhXzR)

9 Abort 3rd trimester fetus - right (duty)

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:29 AM (UhXzR)

10 $400 haircut - right

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:30 AM (UhXzR)

11
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 29, 2013 08:28 AM (DuH+r)


I will condense: Bill of Rights is really a Bill of Privileges.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 29, 2013 08:31 AM (m0v2L)

12 Did anyone see the letter the Utah Sheriff's Assoc wrote to barky re the 2nd Amend? Yeah, silly question around here.
Horde. Worthy.

Posted by: teej at January 29, 2013 08:31 AM (RlvM2)

13 Access to perpetually awesome hair- right- but only if you're in the government

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 08:31 AM (2IgCi)

14 extort $Millions from doctors - right

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:31 AM (UhXzR)

15 Access to lady parts other than your wife's ?

Posted by: American Dawg at January 29, 2013 08:32 AM (trA4n)

16 Just the tip: right

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 08:33 AM (2IgCi)

17 Blowing Millions on a failed Presidential campaign ?

Posted by: American Dawg at January 29, 2013 08:33 AM (trA4n)

18 My god. This guy could have beaten mccain

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 08:33 AM (2IgCi)

19 >>>One of the last things I want to do is listen to that gasbag. Anyone have a transcript?

EDWARDS: "Let's hear what poor Emily would say - if she could talk, before the forceps got her poor defensless head and caused her immeasurable damage, affecting her life for all time.... Emily? 'I'm frightened' she's saying, 'I can feel the cold cold unfeeling jaws of the metal clamps a-comin' in...'

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 08:33 AM (3ZtZW)

20
The problem is, too many people in America believe the government *grants* rights.
For example: you have the "right" to drive. The "right" to social security, etc.
People have no concept of Natural Rights thanks to the stellar education system we're running in America today.

Posted by: Jay at January 29, 2013 08:34 AM (3LaGb)

21 Commune with the souls of dead children in court to win millions in legal fees - privilege.

Posted by: flsprtsgod at January 29, 2013 08:34 AM (6MVtf)

22 3 I can't watch it at work.




Lucky!

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 08:34 AM (2IgCi)

23 I wish the interviewer used a real "shotgun"

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:35 AM (UhXzR)

24 John Bad Elk v. United States - 177 U.S. 529 (1900)

Three policemen in South Dakota attempted, under verbal orders, to arrest another policeman for an alleged violation of law when no charge had been formally made against him and no warrant had issued for his arrest. Those attempting to make the arrest carried arms, and when he refused to go, they tried to oblige him to do so by force. He fired and killed one of them. He was arrested, tried for murder, and convicted. However, the Supreme Court ruled that Bad Elk had the right to use any force, including lethal force, to prevent his false arrest, even if the policeman was only trying to arrest him and not kill him. Basically, the Supremes of the day ruled that as a citizen, you have the right to defend against your civil rights being violated using ANY force necessary to prevent the violation, even if the offending party isn't trying to kill you.

Of course, modern law enforcement organizations would most likely kill you if you try this, so don't try this at home.

Posted by: Pancho Via at January 29, 2013 08:35 AM (e8kgV)

25 Filing Frivolous Lawsuits ?

Posted by: American Dawg at January 29, 2013 08:36 AM (trA4n)

26 For those who want to restrict our right to freedom, they do not see that they are puny and impotent in the face of God, who grants those rights. The government is there to protect them, not grant them. We need to pound this home every chance we get.


Your arm's too short to box with God.

Posted by: tcn at January 29, 2013 08:36 AM (VLG62)

27 If we were living in a nation of justice he would be in jail, not mouthing off about crap.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 08:36 AM (53z96)

28
This moron actually said "livable wage" is a Right
My goodness...

Posted by: Jay at January 29, 2013 08:36 AM (3LaGb)

29 Hold the line.

This is either the GOP's finest hour, or their death ride. The culture can be changed from the outside, but they must hold the line.

No amnesty, no gun control. Secure the border. Or else let's go to war.

Posted by: J. at January 29, 2013 08:36 AM (D5Jpp)

30 One question I would like to see asked of the likes of John Edwards and Pierce Morgan during this gun control debate:

Do you think the Iranian citizens would be free today if they had the equivalent to a 2nd amendment? ...

Posted by: ET at January 29, 2013 08:37 AM (YpjaN)

31 Was that John Edwards or Lindsey Graham? I never could keep those two straight. (and neither could they)

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 29, 2013 08:37 AM (nZvGM)

32 What an absolute fucking asshole.

A college education is a "right" based on... ? But the right bear arms, enshrined DIRECTLY in the constitution is not. Are you SHITTING me ?!

Posted by: deadrody at January 29, 2013 08:38 AM (kLSvx)

33 If we were living in a nation of justice he would be in jail, not mouthing off about crap.

To quote that great philospher Bill Engvall, "Here's your sign."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 08:38 AM (+z4pE)

34 See here is where our "leaders" should be smacking these Marxists day-in and day-out.

This type of shit cannot go unchallenged!

Now amendments are privlidges that can be revoked on a whim by the masterminds as if they are a parent taking away a childs toy.



FUCK THESE PEOPLE!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 29, 2013 08:39 AM (RrD4h)

35 I thought he was in jail???

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:40 AM (UhXzR)

36 What is Silky Pony up to these days?

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 08:40 AM (qjFNd)

37
Do you think the Iranian citizens would be free today
=======
They would immediately start talking about how health care is accessible to every Iranaian citizen...

Posted by: Jay at January 29, 2013 08:41 AM (3LaGb)

38
He is free. Wow I didn't know that.

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:41 AM (UhXzR)

39 Paying off a judge to declare mistrials ?

Posted by: American Dawg at January 29, 2013 08:41 AM (trA4n)

40 >>>Or else let's go to war

Therestoomanyofustherestoomanyofustherestoomany

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJAlIHsXcLY

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 08:41 AM (3ZtZW)

41 The problem is, too many people in America believe the government *grants* rights.
For example: you have the "right" to drive. The "right" to social security, etc.
People have no concept of Natural Rights thanks to the stellar education system we're running in America today.


Yeah. And it's on purpose. If the government can "grant" a right (instead of a privilege), then they can take away any right.

In essence, the Leftists have very purposefully conflated the words "right" and "privilege" in the language.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:41 AM (8y9MW)

42 He never really was the sharpest crayon in the box...

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at January 29, 2013 08:43 AM (IanLz)

43 all own means of production - right

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:43 AM (UhXzR)

44 Nah, they allowed him to get off with a "mistrial" and Holder refused to retry it.


He is protected by Democratium, but he is white so he at least had to go to trial.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 08:43 AM (53z96)

45 Rand Paul said that Obama's constitution gives the right to "free haircuts".

Now it all makes sense. Silky Pony doesn't want to pay for those haircuts.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 08:44 AM (FsUAO)

46 Confusion of confusion, all is confusion.

Some of it accidental, most of it purposeful.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 08:44 AM (+z4pE)

47 Your arm's too short to box with God.

Dude. I beat Galactus.

Posted by: Mr. Fantastic at January 29, 2013 08:44 AM (2IgCi)

48
35I thought he was in jail???


That is funny. He wears the protective "D" badge.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 29, 2013 08:44 AM (m0v2L)

49 We have right on our side--you simply do not nullify a provision of the Bill of Rights, you simply do not change the makeup of a population for your petty political gain. I would hope the only way this would be possible would be at the point of a bayonet.

If Americans still have the blood of their forefathers runnng through their veins, that is. The blood that was shed at Lexington and Concord, Shiloh and Gettysburg, Belleau Wood and Omaha Beach, Khe San and Tora Bora. The blood of liberty, the blood of individuals acting together, not a collective ordering individuals.

Each will have to make his own decision when enough has become enough. I have made mine, though that point has not yet been reached, and a critical mass of the populace is not yet even engaged in the conversation. But the Democratic Party and evety last one of their supporters can go to blazes. America will remain as it was, in spirit, and they can take their grand dreams and go hang. I have no doubts they will attempt to make sure those like I do, instead.

Posted by: J. at January 29, 2013 08:45 AM (D5Jpp)

50 I NEVER laughed at Silky Pony's earnest insistence on our rights being "grants from government."

He intoned two Americas and I mocked that, BUT now I agree.

Pity the left enjoys two Americas.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:46 AM (LRFds)

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Posted by: LaceWigBooks at January 29, 2013 08:47 AM (GsoHv)

52 A Barrel of Spammers?

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 08:48 AM (3ZtZW)

53 Morning, 'Rons. I always wanted to say that. John Edwards is a very pretty girl.

Posted by: ALH at January 29, 2013 08:48 AM (n2rle)

54 LaceWigBooks,


I see Lace Wigs is doing well in business and now has a book division....

I'm touched.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:48 AM (LRFds)

55 Lace wigs spam back or a stupid sock who should know better than to copy and paste?

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 08:48 AM (53z96)

56 We have right on our side--you simply do not nullify a provision of the
Bill of Rights, you simply do not change the makeup of a population for
your petty political gain. I would hope the only way this would be
possible would be at the point of a bayonet.


They aren't "simply" doing it. They've been working toward this for 90 years or more.

That said, it is to their own peril that they buy into their own propaganda. The Bill of Rights does not grant a right- it secures them. Those rights exist anyway, and regardless of what anyone thinks on the matter. The only question is how the Government attempts to secure, circumvent, or infringe on those rights.

You can tell me I can't have a gun all you want.

Molon labe.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:48 AM (8y9MW)

57 Andy - clean up at 51.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 08:48 AM (53z96)

58 how did lacey wiggs get in here?

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 08:49 AM (GVxQo)

59
I refuse to watch that piece of slime. My mohter saw through him and Kerry in 2004, and she was getting Alzheimer's. What is wrong with this country when a woman in her late 70s and in the beginnings of that frigging disease has better judgement than the idiots that voted for Kerry/Edwards in 2004?
At least my mother had her common sense!
Edwards was right, there are now two Americas. We have consrvatives in one and low info and lib in the other. I ignoerd Edwards in his presidential campaigns.
O/T but I am using an older windows computer now. There is something tobe said for Macs with the spell check. I just wish more websites were compatible with Safari.

Posted by: CarolT at January 29, 2013 08:49 AM (z4WKX)

60 @ LaceWigBooks

What the Hell was that ?

Posted by: American Dawg at January 29, 2013 08:49 AM (trA4n)

61 Most people won't hear about such things or think about it or hear our point of view. The left controls the media and they use it. They gave use Obama and are trying to grab guns with it now.

The media is the root of our problems. We have at least a third of America ready and willing to fight. We must fight together and we must fight now.

Stop whining and let's organize. I'm sick of just chronicalling the bias. Fight.

Posted by: GardenGnome at January 29, 2013 08:50 AM (Io7hX)

62 I don't really know the gulf coast/southern states that well.
We could start off with Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho.

Posted by: teej at January 29, 2013 08:50 AM (hDena)

63 My windows version of FF has spell check. And it is just about as good as no spell check.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 08:50 AM (53z96)

64 Wow. Look at the pic on Drudge. What a fucking loser.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 08:50 AM (eKiiX)

65 Posted by: LaceWigBooks at January 29, 2013 08:47 AM (GsoHv)

Great.

So Pixy "cleans up the spam," and breaks the blog. Now he (she? it?) "fixes" the blog, but spammers can suddenly get back in.

Awesome.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:50 AM (8y9MW)

66 What the heck did LaceWigBooks just say?

Posted by: ALH at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (n2rle)

67 This reminds me of the time a guy wanted to cheat off of me on a test, so I answered the first T/F page of the test exactly wrong. Then I covered up and fixed my version.

Someone yesterday referred to the South African constitution, where what Edwards answered would be correct. That must be the same constitution that Ruth Ginsberg thinks is so much better than ours.

We occupy the same land, but we live in different worlds.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (ccXZP)

68 What a fucking loser.

We're paying for his groceries so he can afford that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (hO8IJ)

69 Oops.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (GsoHv)

70 I think that makes us the losers.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (hO8IJ)

71 GardenGnome, what do you have in mind?

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (UhXzR)

72 Never forgot that video after seeing that motherfucker get every answer wrong. These people are chilling.

Posted by: MadisonConservative at January 29, 2013 08:52 AM (sb+ta)

73 So Pixy "cleans up the spam," and breaks the blog. Now he (she? it?) "fixes" the blog, but spammers can suddenly get back in.

Awesome.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:50 AM (8y9MW)

I would not count on that being the real lacewigs spam.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 08:52 AM (53z96)

74 We have right on our side--you simply do not nullify a provision of the Bill of Rights, you simply do not change the makeup of a population for your petty political gain.

If your goal is power, then yes, you do whatever is necessary to gain it, even if it means directly violating the law.

This is what we're dealing with: naked aggression by the Left. They will stop at nothing to achieve their goals, the citizenry and laws be damned. Their ends justifies their means. They are in control now, having so distorted the truth and the language for generations, that we have little hope of setting things right peaceably. These people are the political equivalent of the Terminator: they don't feel pity or remorse, they cannot be reasoned with, they do not respect reality and the absolutely will not stop until we are dead.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 08:52 AM (+z4pE)

75 Disarming right-wing racist haters and other counter-progressive elements is a critical and necessary, therefore Constitutional, use of government power. The Constitution was written by dead racists anyway. Our wise President, Barack Obama, shall make a new Covenant with His chosen people.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 29, 2013 08:53 AM (jCQ+I)

76 Nope, that was me. I got that spam on my own blog, and loved the sentence. But I neglected to reads the auguries and simply cut and pasted it.

Apparently the moon wasn't in the correct phase.

Sorry for the looong comment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 08:53 AM (GsoHv)

77 it said it uses this blog everyday....sounds almost dirty

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 08:53 AM (GVxQo)

78
Not only a privilege but a responsibility to secure yourself and your own. And hopefully assist others in need if you can.

Our local news is having a segment on not double dipping your chip at a Superbowl party. Ditch dips unless in single servings. Individual masks for all.

Remember when no news was good news???

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 08:53 AM (Sptt8)

79 Someone yesterday referred to the South African
constitution, where what Edwards answered would be correct. That must be
the same constitution that Ruth Ginsberg thinks is so much better than
ours.

We occupy the same land, but we live in different worlds.


Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (ccXZP)

Rand Paul commented on that with regard to Pelosi and OBama.

I called it their desire for a "Commietution" in the last thread.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 08:54 AM (53z96)

80 lol charlie .....barrel.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 08:54 AM (GVxQo)

81 Underage Dominican Hookers. Right or Privilege?

Posted by: Bob Menedez at January 29, 2013 08:54 AM (m0v2L)

82 So "lacewigs" was CBD. aha!

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 08:55 AM (53z96)

83 This is why we cannot have a conversation about gun control.



We are speaking different languages.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2013 08:55 AM (yh0zB)

84 Oops.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (GsoHv)


Oh, so it was you.

You know where the barrel is.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:56 AM (8y9MW)

85 :::70 I think that makes us the losers.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (hO8IJ):::

Fuck that. Fetch me my skinning knife. I'm gettin' a refund.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 08:56 AM (eKiiX)

86 God damn his stupid hurts.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 08:56 AM (41VCE)

87 obama phone right or privilege? & it better have good aps

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 08:57 AM (GVxQo)

88 EoJ, congrats on your anniversary.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2013 08:58 AM (yh0zB)

89 "Shotgun Round"?

Even Edwards did a double take on that one. Never heard of it before. "Lightning Round," yeah.

What a tool.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 29, 2013 08:58 AM (KQ53P)

90 did you all see Ace is going to be part of the conversation over at Breitbart?

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 08:58 AM (GVxQo)

91
B-Boy:
You are exact-a-tick-atactkly 100% correct.

It must be nice (or something) to be so much smarter than everybody else that you know better than they how to micro-manage their lives. No holds barred. For their own good.
And none of the shit applies to you. Because you are the instrument of divine delivery.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 08:58 AM (Sptt8)

92 87 PhxGrl,

oh it is a right comrade....of course you shutting it off or not having it beam OFA shit into your head...."not an option" comrade.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 08:59 AM (LRFds)

93 Thanks, GGE!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 08:59 AM (eKiiX)

94 Off to bed. See you in the camps roonz and roonettez.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2013 08:59 AM (yh0zB)

95 List of phrases Ace must use for The Conversation:

1) Slice like an f'ing hammer
2) Refer to Rubio's garbage
3) ???

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 09:00 AM (FsUAO)

96 So I have a right to everything NOT listed in the Bill of Rights. And the only right that he asked Breck girl is a privilege?



Bizarro Mxyzptlk please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 09:00 AM (fWAjv)

97 List of phrases Ace must use for The Conversation:



1) Slice like an f'ing hammer

2) Refer to Rubio's garbage

3) ???


SCOAMF / SCOAMT
TFG
MATT! DAMON!

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:01 AM (8y9MW)

98 91 JustaMom,

and that is why I hate them, and it is why I fight.

The great depression lasted so long because of Keynesian impulses and concentrated decision making taking on too much power.

We're hitting the gas back towards that stupidity and nobody is making the case for distributed situational analysis and dynamic disequilibrium theory applied to "microeconomics."

Instead we have regulatory agencies making economic edicts.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:01 AM (LRFds)

99 Good morning again, a little sweated up from moving furniture, break time.

I see the Breck Girl occasionally around here cruising in his Porche. It's all I can do not to play Demo Derby. He's a POS beyond Obama, the only thing he doesn't have is Obamas power.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 09:01 AM (l86i3)

100 55 Lace wigs spam back or a stupid sock who should know better than to copy and paste?




something much worse.

Posted by: somejoe at January 29, 2013 09:01 AM (SSWdi)

101 Disgusting. I cannot put up with them for much longer.

Americascivilwar.blogspot.com for further info

Posted by: Darian at January 29, 2013 09:02 AM (KC3A2)

102 96 RWC,

now YOU get the three card monte game being played....

abortion "right"

free speech "privilege"


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:02 AM (LRFds)

103 97 List of phrases Ace must use for The Conversation:



1) Slice like an f'ing hammer

2) Refer to Rubio's garbage

3) SCOAMF / SCOAMT

4) TFG

5) MATT! DAMON!

6) Barack and Michelle fan fiction erotica...

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:03 AM (41VCE)

104 Hey John, how's it hanging?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 09:03 AM (9Bj8R)

105 Just wait until Obama gets to make some more hack appointments to SCOTUS!


Posted by: angienc at January 29, 2013 09:03 AM (w3JGl)

106 101 darian,

nice I'll peruse it in detail later....

I just don't see a way for the left and right to coexist and the left keeps importing reinforcements.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:04 AM (LRFds)

107 4) The right to Value-Rite! 11!eleventy!1!

Posted by: teej at January 29, 2013 09:04 AM (4IyOI)

108 List of phrases Ace must use for The Conversation:



1) Slice like an f'ing hammer

2) Refer to Rubio's garbage

3) SCOAMF / SCOAMT

4) TFG

5) MATT! DAMON!

6) Barack and Michelle fan fiction erotica...

7) Pudding Cups

Value-Rite vodka a right not a privilege.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:05 AM (41VCE)

109 99 OSP,

The media nutted Silky Pony pretty hard for their new "exotic" boyfriend...

funny shit since Obama is if anything more fake than the fake.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:05 AM (LRFds)

110
Posted by: angienc at January 29, 2013 09:03 AM (w3JGl)


Shoe. Meet floor.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 29, 2013 09:05 AM (m0v2L)

111 OK, you probably read Drudge yesterday, but if you didn't I've gotta share a funny.
Gun buyback in Seattle had multiple "gun shows" pop up along the periphery of the crowd. Private exchanges all over the place.
Gotta love freedom.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 09:05 AM (Sptt8)

112 111 justamom,

too many don't love it enough

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:07 AM (LRFds)

113 The media nutted Silky Pony pretty hard for their new "exotic" boyfriend...

funny shit since Obama is if anything more fake than the fake.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:05 AM (LRFds)

If I remember correctly it wasn't the media, it was the National Enquirer or he still might be VP. The MFM looked away until the reall diggers got video of his bullshit.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 09:07 AM (l86i3)

114 Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:02 AM (LRFds)

Oh I get. Gotten it for awhile now.




Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 09:07 AM (fWAjv)

115 Wow

http://youtu.be/NyYYgLzF6zU

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:08 AM (41VCE)

116 Reconquista. We are finished. Thank you Barack, John, Marco, Chuckie, Dick, and the rest of you asshatrs.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 09:08 AM (wbmaj)

117 college education - right
healthcare - right
livable wage - right
owning a handgun - privilege
american citizenship for someone not born here but worked here for 5 years - right
access to the internet - right

Wow... he got every single one of those wrong.

Posted by: UCanCallMeBob at January 29, 2013 09:08 AM (V4q/3)

118 Has the 'fireside chat' with Choo choo Biden been posted on the HQ yet?

If not, here you go-

http://tinyurl.com/b9v4dzl


30 minutes of him talking with citizens about guns. Just starting to watch it now, but I'm sure it will contain some hilarity.

Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 09:09 AM (fWAjv)

119 Nice....go Juan Queeg go go go Juan...go go!

Guess who has final say on "border security?"

That's right Juan "SMART!" Queeg says uncle Jan Neopolitino at DHS has say....

fucking John "shit the GOP cannot flush" McCain....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:09 AM (LRFds)

120 Mea culpa!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 09:10 AM (GsoHv)

121 Pointing a gun at the head of your productive neighbor and extracting enough money for all the mentioned "rights" - right

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 09:11 AM (FsUAO)

122 113 OSP,

Yeah but Jlist was the final octane boost to it...

I really wonder at times about the internal dynamics and coordination that has to be going on between editors.....

you'd think they'd accidentally fuck up the choir from time to time even if a near unimind more often than they do.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:11 AM (LRFds)

123 Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:08 AM (41VCE)

2 minutes in and dayyyyum.

Loud applause!!

Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 09:12 AM (fWAjv)

124 Someone want to precis what Juan Eduardo said? I have no sound at work.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)

125 OT and late

Step 4: Actually work programming vs. jumping to the newest tech for 30 of the last 25 years.
Step 5: Take a few off.
Step 6: Watch your resume disappear like spam in the wind.
Step 7: FIIK

Posted by: DaveA at January 29, 2013 09:12 AM (tAie3)

126 Fordo said to be crippled by 'blast'
Despite staunch denials by Iran, new details regarding explosion in nuclear site depict moments of detonation as allegedly captured by CCTV
Ynet
Published: 01.29.13, 13:49 / Israel News



Despite vehement denials by Iran, new details emerged Tuesday regarding the alleged blast in the Fordo nuclear website.

The website reported Saturday that Fordo, which is considered to be Iran's second-largest uranium enrichment facility, has suffered a massive explosion, which has razed a significant part of it, trapping over 200 people underground.

Related Stories:
Report: Israeli officials 'confirm' blast in Fordo
US 'does not believe' reports on blast at Iran nuke plant
Iran exposed spying device at Fordo nuke plant

The credibility of the report has been questioned mostly due to the fact that the Qom-adjacent facility has been carved into a mountain and as such it is believed to be virtually unassailable by neither air strikes nor bunker-buster bombs.

According to a Tuesday report by WND, the Revolutionary Guard has set up a 15km security zone around the site, cordoning it off completely.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 09:13 AM (9Bj8R)

127 http://tinyurl.com/b6m36n4

See BS has Senator Juan Queeg-Asshole AZ on to admit "yup Obama controls the triggers"....


Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:14 AM (LRFds)

128 you'd think they'd accidentally fuck up the choir from time to time even if a near unimind more often than they do.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:11 AM (LRFds)

They are pretty smart about that stuff. Seems it's all filtered through Media Matters and sent out as mass talking points. The video of a dozen or so MFM reporters and Anchors telling lies word for word is kind of a give away. At least it's a give away to those of us that pay attention.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 09:14 AM (l86i3)

129 And obama to come with it's own more liberal immigration plan today in Vegas and because of his arrogance sink both plans.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 09:14 AM (9Bj8R)

130 123 Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:08 AM (41VCE)

2 minutes in and dayyyyum.

Loud applause!!
--------------------------------
I know it really stirred me, what a smart American. I will post again, the video is a bit long, but well worth a watch for anyone arguing for the second amendment.

This deserves to go viral

http://youtu.be/NyYYgLzF6zU



Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:15 AM (41VCE)

131
Anybody read Atlas Shrugs?
Some judge in the UK let a rapist off because he was ignorant of the law.
If there would be anywhere one would be ignorant of any law it would be here in regulationland.
The man groomed and raped a 13 year old but wasn't responsible cuz he was raised on the quran.
No shit.
Wish I could get by with being raised by the bible here!

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 09:15 AM (Sptt8)

132 And obama to come with it's own more liberal immigration plan today in Vegas and because of his arrogance sink both plans.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 09:14 AM (9Bj8R

That would be Comical.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 09:15 AM (l86i3)

133 Fordo, which is considered to be Iran's second-largest uranium enrichment facility

Fordo? What's the biggest site called, Blibo?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2013 09:15 AM (xGlYu)

134 Ability through illegal border invasion and purposeful failure to defend borders from invasion to change entire demogrpahics of a sovereign nation? Yes sir, that is a "right."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 09:16 AM (wbmaj)

135 And obama to come with it's own more liberal immigration plan today in Vegas and because of his arrogance sink both plans.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 09:14 AM (9Bj8R

That would be Comical.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 09:15 AM (l86i3)


It's arrogance will bring him down, bring him down to china town in it's second term.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 09:16 AM (9Bj8R)

136 128 OSP,

yeah about the only thing that gums up the choir is when the parent corp has a direct interest in story suppression....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:17 AM (LRFds)

137 http://youtu.be/NyYYgLzF6zU

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:15 AM (41VCE)

Watching now. Can we have this guy run for office?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 09:17 AM (FsUAO)

138 yeah about the only thing that gums up the choir is when the parent corp has a direct interest in story suppression....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:17 AM (LRFds)

Yep, and then they don't say shit, Like Bengazi.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 09:18 AM (l86i3)

139 If anyone can come up with a delivery address, work or home for him. I will spring for an annual subscription to the National Enquirer in his name.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:18 AM (bR2AR)

140 Fordo? What's the biggest site called, Blibo?

****

LOL

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at January 29, 2013 09:18 AM (+I8Mq)

141 This is why we cannot have a conversation about gun control.We are speaking different languages.

It's deeper than that. What we're dealing with is form of mental illness. What else explains the lock-step thinking? The unity of purpose to deny the truth, to distort the language, to twist the law, to ignore principle and to enslave others? These are all symptoms of the disease of wanting control over others. It is nurtured by the ego and must find a way of expressing itself. It is the Core Human Fault, from which all other faults flow.

The Founders understood this disease far better than this mewling quim, and wrote the Constitution the way they did to try to stop precisely the type of government, and the people who currently infest it, that we see today in Washington. The enemies of freedom knew that they couldn't overthrow our government from the outside, so they did it from within, over the course of generations, in full view.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 09:18 AM (+z4pE)

142 Open borders combined with a welfare state will doom any sovereign state. Milton Friedman foretold this fact many, many years ago.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 09:19 AM (wbmaj)

143 137- I wish, I think he is in CT. He need to move south!

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:19 AM (41VCE)

144 teach your kids.......don't let them become the left

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 09:19 AM (GVxQo)

145 Fifteen klick security zone, hmmm.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:20 AM (bR2AR)

146 Open borders combined with a welfare state will doom any sovereign state. Milton Friedman foretold this fact many, many years ago.
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 09:19 AM (wbmaj)


A Country that does not spend time with it's borders is not a real Country

Posted by: The Godfather at January 29, 2013 09:20 AM (9Bj8R)

147 http://youtu.be/NyYYgLzF6zU

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:15 AM (41VCE)

I would like to trade most 'Americans' for more of his stripe.

Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 09:20 AM (fWAjv)

148 "The 2nd amendment is a doomsday device. It only comes in use ... when all other rights have failed. A free people can only afford to make this mistake once."

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 09:21 AM (FsUAO)

149 146 The Godfather,

eh Pa I have to look at Sandy Fluke send Fredo....

//Sonny Corleone...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:21 AM (LRFds)

150 40 >>>Or else let's go to war

Therestoomanyofustherestoomanyofustherestoomany

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJAlIHsXcLY


IT CAN START IN NEW JERSEY!!!

Posted by: akula51 at January 29, 2013 09:21 AM (YesJa)

151 Kirsten Powers on O's new war on Fox:

http://tinyurl.com/a3zrwuj

Didn't he already fail at this?

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 29, 2013 09:22 AM (bS6uW)

152 Right to reconquer the American southwest and beyond in the name of revenge and hatred of yankee gringos? That is a "right," no doubt.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 09:22 AM (wbmaj)

153
On gun topic-

Member of my extended by-marriage family who will be at Superbowl party is soon to be outed for the complete f'ing idiot she is.
Told my sis at end of last get together how that mom in Georgia who shot the intruder had no business using a gun.
Unbelievable.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 09:22 AM (Sptt8)

154 Correct quote:

"The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed only exceptionally rare when all other rights have failed. A free people can only afford to make this mistake once."

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 09:22 AM (FsUAO)

155 151 Blacksheep,

look "global standards" and all that hooha that was for Bush!

URGENCY!

That is why he never goes to Congress urgency...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:24 AM (LRFds)

156 Why only once? battle of Athens worked, no reason it can't again.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:24 AM (bR2AR)

157 So if the Republican controlled House passes the Amnesty bill, are we going to finally get that we're being ruled by a bunch of Kings and Queens? My handle was originally a joke, but really... the progs in both parties are running this joint. I'm not sure that there's anyone left but progs and the terminally selfish.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 29, 2013 09:24 AM (Expaw)

158 153-
You just cant cure stupid, that's very sad.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:25 AM (41VCE)

159 You know, if I had a blog, I'd put up a post there that's a little too long for a comment here.

If I had a blog.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:26 AM (8y9MW)

160 >>>Someone want to precis what Juan Eduardo said? I have no sound at work.

He was asked if having a gun were a right or a privilege and said "If I had a gun pointed to my head? Thats a privilege" Hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 09:26 AM (3ZtZW)

161 Justamom, have her stand still for twenty minutes holding a cocktail without drinking or spilling it, or just demand twenty minutes of silence to respect the children in CT. Reinforce twenty minutes, it kills their silly statist arguments.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:26 AM (bR2AR)

162 Sorry to ask again, but can someone tell me what Johnny boy is saying in the attached vid up top? I don't have sound at work.

Thanks!

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:26 AM (GQ8sn)

163 He was asked if having a gun were a right or a privilege and said "If I
had a gun pointed to my head? Thats a privilege" Hilarity ensued.



Ummm...what?

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:27 AM (GQ8sn)

164 On Gun Topic and the Media, Now Foxynews has become the object of infection of the MSM by Executive order.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 29, 2013 09:28 AM (x59Gv)

165 Yes, folks, that's who the nation selected as an esteemed leader and one of a very select few who a) wield enormous power and b) swear to uphold the Constitution.

Good Lord.

And we're more boned now than when that was filmed. The chicken? Less boned than us.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 09:28 AM (eHIJJ)

166 Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:26 AM (GQ8sn)

He is asked whether several things should be rights or privileges, and he gets all of them wrong.

Healthcare, living wage, citizenship for illegals, etc are all rights according to him.

Pistol ownership sis a privilege.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 09:29 AM (GsoHv)

167 Our citizenry appears to be of two minds regarding the supremacy of the individual vs the state, and the two world views are not compatible. Where reason fails, force prevails, alas.

So many cold dead hands.

Posted by: toby928© from the future at January 29, 2013 09:29 AM (evdj2)

168 Ummm...what?

I'm not sure if it's "the mask slipping" or an intentional revelation. Either way it's quite telling about how they see the Constitution.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:29 AM (8y9MW)

169
college education - right
healthcare - right
livable wage - right
owning a handgun - privilege
american citizenship for someone not born here but worked here for 5 years - right
access to the internet - right

This is what Johnny said

Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 09:29 AM (UhXzR)

170 165 anonymous drivel,

the chicken pecks from time to time when "pecked" from behind I'd wager....

the media convinces these fucks we never will

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:29 AM (LRFds)

171
I really don't know why I should have to convert to Amish to avoid being subjected to the micromanagement of the progs. I've got all I need here in this book on my nightstand.

I am so saddened when I remember being a kid and the most popular retort being "It's a free country!", and I think about my kids and their kids.
My son can't decide on the priesthood or army, but it's still early. And God love him, he's still idealistic.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 09:30 AM (Sptt8)

172 Kirsten Powers on O's new war on Fox:



http://tinyurl.com/a3zrwuj



Didn't he already fail at this?

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 29, 2013 09:22 AM



Yes, well, socialism didn't work all those other times either, but let's not let that stop us.

Posted by: huerfano at January 29, 2013 09:30 AM (bAGA/)

173 EC, short version. In John Edwards bizarro world, Your gun ownership is a privilege, and his escape from incarceration is a right.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:30 AM (bR2AR)

174 college education - right
healthcare - right
livable wage - right
owning a handgun - privilege
american citizenship for someone not born here but worked here for 5 years - right
access to the internet - right

This is what Johnny said



Oh jeebus...I'm so glad we dodged a bullet (hehe) with this douchebag.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:30 AM (GQ8sn)

175 Apparently all this 2nd Amendment and Imigration Reform are part of a greater exspanse of the White Priviledge protocal.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 29, 2013 09:31 AM (x59Gv)

176 167 Toby 928th,

The sad thing is we could have fixed it with no bloodshed at several points just by destroying the initial infectant's lives.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)

177 174 EC,

Yeah thank God....I eamn we could have had Barack Obam....never mind.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)

178 >>>Ummm...what?

Joke. Using a common expression is all.

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 09:32 AM (3ZtZW)

179 I'm hungry.

Eating breakfast at 5:30 may have been a poor choice.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:34 AM (8y9MW)

180 Oh jeebus...I'm so glad we dodged a bullet (hehe) with this douchebag.

---
Did we? Sad this jerkoff lawyer might have been better for the nation than TFG

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:34 AM (41VCE)

181 179 I'm hungry.

Angry Sasquatch will cure what ails you.

Posted by: akula51 at January 29, 2013 09:34 AM (YesJa)

182 171 - Army Chaplain?

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 09:35 AM (3ZtZW)

183 Hey, AtC: How do you feel that this dipstick is one of the most famous faces of your profession? That when you say "I'm a lawyer" there's a good chance people think of this shyster?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:35 AM (8y9MW)

184 To be ruled by these people
Privilege

Posted by: MSM Toadies at January 29, 2013 09:35 AM (SO2Q8)

185 every time obama goes after FOX News I bet the ratings go up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 09:36 AM (9Bj8R)

186 On a lighter note, the news in Mexifornia is that the State of Fuckstein , has a severe shortage of ammo. After a visit to some suppliers I can say that there are individuals with more ammo than the stores and in some cases more firearms than the store owners have on display..Too bad we did not have an investment in Ar platform rifles , it is apparently a betttr investment than gold or silver...

Posted by: Clemenza at January 29, 2013 09:37 AM (x59Gv)

187 Did we? Sad this jerkoff lawyer might have been better for the nation than TFG


That's a hard one. Both are douchebags, but I wouldn't be able to pick who the lesser douchebag is. My answer would be none of the above.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:38 AM (GQ8sn)

188 Doing the Benny Hill Yakety Sax in a LA hotel with reporters chasing you from your mistresses room. Right or a privilege.

Posted by: Whatev at January 29, 2013 09:39 AM (A7Wh1)

189 You'll know what's going on, Obama was stung by criticism that he let his electoral momentum get away in his first term. Wasting it on stimulus and Obamacare, and not hitting other lefty issues. So he is swinging for the fences on guns, immigration, and wait for it Carbon.

If the Pubs can delay at bit, I'm sure events will overtake us, and his agenda can die a death of a thousand cuts. First cut, should be that slope Mendenez - kill this Immigration crap with ad hominem attacks on him, start over.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:40 AM (gKGI0)

190 In the last thread I said to watch out for the amnesty loving Fox. Well they have a "poll" now.

http://is.gd/PdM8dD



Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 09:40 AM (53z96)

191 I see Doc Zero is on the list of invitees a Breitbart's "The Conversation," but AllahPussy and Poppin' Fresh got the brush-off.

Oh, VERY fuck yes.

Those two limpdicks should be grateful for the free appraisal of their worth.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 09:41 AM (eKiiX)

192 OT: STUPID party part 1432

On NPR this morning: Senator Flake

The usual well-known views were expressed in favor of reform (AKA amnesty). Then the really stupid comment which is now obligatory for Republicans -

(Paraphrasing..)
Q: Is there a moral angle to this?
Flakey: With regard to those who were brought here by no fault of their own, those who were brought by their parents, yes. THESE ARE CHILDREN BORN WITHOUT A COUNTRY.

Mierda.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 29, 2013 09:41 AM (eEfYn)

193 I see Doc Zero is on the list of invitees a Breitbart's "The Conversation," but AllahPussy and Poppin' Fresh got the brush-off.


I aspire to Doc Zero's level of success.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:41 AM (8y9MW)

194 Don't worry.

Legalizing and encouraging millions of people who think nothing of breaking the law will make you safer.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2013 09:42 AM (imtbm)

195 Seriously. Someone's going to get shot over this.

Then it all goes to hell.

Posted by: washington nearsider at January 29, 2013 09:42 AM (fwARV)

196 28

This moron actually said "livable wage" is a Right
My goodness...

Posted by: Jay at January 29, 2013 08:36 AM (3LaGb)

This is their ultimate goal: a european-style constitution that is a bill of things that the government will grant you rather than things that the government can and cannot do. So, you are granted the right to, say, free health care, a month of vacation every year, free housing if you need it -- but God help you if you say or do something that the government has decided is not a right it has granted.

Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 09:42 AM (RD7QR)

197 Banging the wedding photographer at your own wedding, right or a privilege?

Posted by: Whatev at January 29, 2013 09:42 AM (A7Wh1)

198
Allen G-
While I appreciate the distinction drawn on your blog gun entry, it would be lost on lockstep libs whose neuron pathways fire in one direction only. Halfway through a sentence, they seek the warm comfort of their ego-enforced righteous place.
Still, good to know. And good to use
Tried to comment at your blog but iPhone wouldn't cooperate.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 09:43 AM (Sptt8)

199 Just amom, we have a new priest in training at our parish, veteran, infantry officer 82nd.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:43 AM (gKGI0)

200 Liberals were stealthy and infiltrated education, media, science etc. If we don't fight back in these areas, we are going to lose our country. They will convince our kids that guns are bad and they have a right to everything they want without actually working for it.

Posted by: Stacy M at January 29, 2013 09:43 AM (jJMNa)

201 Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tennessee, joined a chorus of skeptics who questioned President Barack Obama's recent comments about his hobby of skeet shooting, a sport where participants fire shotguns to break airborne clay disks.

"If he is a skeet shooter, why have we not heard of this? Why have we not seen photos? Why hasn't he referenced this at any point in time?" Blackburn said Monday on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront."

"I tell you what I do think," she later added. "I think he should invite me to Camp David, and I'll go skeet shooting with him and I bet I'll beat him."

Posted by: Kim Rhode at January 29, 2013 09:44 AM (e8kgV)

202
Can army chaplains be snipers on the side?
This is my boy who won the big money round at the Amvets shoot!
He wants the sniper patch on his paintball fatigues.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 09:45 AM (Sptt8)

203 I'll shoot skeet with President Obama

Posted by: Dick Cheney at January 29, 2013 09:45 AM (e8kgV)

204 While I appreciate the distinction drawn on your blog gun entry

The one this morning, or one of the previous ones? It's kind of been a topic lately.

That said: I don't think I can convince Liberals via a blog. For one thing, I don't have the readership. I probably have about 30 - 50 regular readers (I post multiple times a day, so each one might hit the site more than once per day).

What I'm hoping to do is give conservatives enough of an edge in their own conversations.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:45 AM (8y9MW)

205 Can army chaplains be snipers on the side?


Chaplain's assistants. "Serve God with a bible in one hand, and a gun in the other."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:46 AM (8y9MW)

206 Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tennessee, joined a chorus of skeptics who
questioned President Barack Obama's recent comments about his hobby of
skeet shooting, a sport where participants fire shotguns to break
airborne clay disks.

"If he is a skeet shooter, why have we not
heard of this? Why have we not seen photos? Why hasn't he referenced
this at any point in time?" Blackburn said Monday on CNN's "Erin Burnett
OutFront."

"I tell you what I do think," she later added. "I
think he should invite me to Camp David, and I'll go skeet shooting with
him and I bet I'll beat him."



She should press the issue and insinuate that he's a pussy for demuring. Nothing irks the TFG than to be called out for his excessive vaginosis.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:47 AM (GQ8sn)

207 I'll shoot skeet with President "skeet" Obama

Posted by: Dick Cheney at January 29, 2013 09:48 AM (e8kgV)

208 rubio is losing his hair....

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 09:48 AM (GVxQo)

209 Oh, and that's where they are going with this.

They're not infringing on your rights they're merely regulating certain privileges incidental to the rights.

Expect that to be the call.

Remember: This country would have thought it stupid and tyrannical if someone had proposed requiring licenses to drive a horse and carriage.

And yet, we allow all sort of restrictions on our right to free movement because it's an automobile. Restrictions that amount to completely eliminating the right.

Same thing here, they're pushing this line of attack.

There's a lot of fucking people who need to be hung 'cause I'm getting damned sick and tired of everyone telling me what I can and can't do merely because they've assigned themselves the role of "smarter and better than you."

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2013 09:48 AM (imtbm)

210 191 EoJ,

Well Poppin' Fresh is more the future of the GOP than I am.

Brave new world....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:48 AM (LRFds)

211 Can anyone give me directions to the Universe where Breitbart is still around? GPS says: at the 7th dimension, make a left, go 200 yards, but all I'm finding is a Starbucks.

Posted by: Rule #2 at January 29, 2013 09:48 AM (CypDC)

212 Chaplain's assistants. "Serve God with a bible in one hand, and a gun in the other."

That's strange. My buddies in ROTC, after receiving their commission, had a chance to help out with recruiting before they had to report to their first assignment. My friend who was commissioned into Medical Service could NOT take part in the recruiting. Everyone else had the chance to. Not sure what the issue was.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:49 AM (GQ8sn)

213 206 -
I love when a TN pol gets it right. I hope we have enough of them to stay in the good graces of TX

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:49 AM (41VCE)

214 >>>Seriously. Someone's going to get shot over this.

Sadly, I agree. The only, admittedly tiny, bright spot is that that outcome is exactly what the Founders intended. They thought lives were worth losing over it. Search your soul, I guess.

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 09:49 AM (3ZtZW)

215 I'm sure Andrew is with Buckaroo Banzai somewhere

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:50 AM (gKGI0)

216 Breitbart is over at St. Arbucks

Posted by: Rule #2a at January 29, 2013 09:50 AM (e8kgV)

217 Here is a link for sven, if you have not seen it before.

http://youtu.be/TegGzfzLkwM

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:50 AM (41VCE)

218 I'm sure Andrew is with Buckaroo Banzai somewhere

Shit, that's the 8th dimension not the 7th!

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:51 AM (GQ8sn)

219 208 PHXGRL,

THER'S AN APP FOR THAT!

BIG GRIN!

//Joey Plugz

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:51 AM (LRFds)

220 Kim Rhode: "I tell you what I do think," she later added. "I think he should invite me to Camp David, and I'll go skeet shooting with him and I bet I'll beat him."

Obama wouldn't know which end the of the gun the shot came out of. I mean, TFG can't even operate an umbrella through a gate.

Blackburn will not receive the courtesy of a reply.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 09:51 AM (eHIJJ)

221 @211: Third Starbucks, left side. Go through the back door, take your first right.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2013 09:52 AM (1ml8s)

222 208 rubio is losing his hair....

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The HORROR

Posted by: John Edwards at January 29, 2013 09:52 AM (SO2Q8)

223 That's strange. My buddies in ROTC, after receiving their commission, had a chance to help out with recruiting before they had to report to their first assignment. My friend who was commissioned into Medical Service could NOT take part in the recruiting. Everyone else had the chance to. Not sure what the issue was.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:49 AM (GQ8sn)

Medical Service Officers are often involved in recruiting. Not sure what was up with your friend, unless they first wanted him to get some experieince first?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 09:52 AM (9Bj8R)

224

OT -
I just found out I've been paying for Netflix for the past year, without the benefit of watching anything.

Apparently, when I purchased a new tv a year ago for the bedroom it was "smart" tv (I bought it because it had a good picture and was the right size for the cabinet). At some point in the sale, I must have agreed to include a subscription to Netflix, although I don't remember ever being asked.

I guess I'll try it for a month or two while actually watching something on it. If you're out buying a new tv, pay more attention to the details than I did.

Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 09:53 AM (ZDsRL)

225 Access to the internet is a right?

This was clearly filmed before Silky started get fucked my Hunter, he's got DSB

Deadly Sperm Build up. He can not think straight.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 29, 2013 09:53 AM (wR+pz)

226 217 Gigg,

I'll watch it soon. The problem is even self-described "libertarians" who somehow still are oddly compelled to be enthusiastic Obama backers aka Jordan are tossing around the "traitor" word for wanting an Art V and break up. One of life's ironies will be if/when the left starts killing people for invoking the plain language intent of our founding.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:53 AM (LRFds)

227 Starting in April, the practice will ask patients to pay doctors
directly for their care and no longer will accept payments from
insurance companies except for Medicare. "We believe that insurance
companies are making it increasingly difficult to practice
patient-centered medicine," the doctors in the practice wrote to
patients this month. The doctors are joining the small but growing
number of physicians who since the late 1990s have tried going the
"direct pay" or "concierge" route, where doctors typically care for a
smaller group of patients who are willing to pay for easier access to
their physician.

Posted by: ObamaDoesn'tCare at January 29, 2013 09:54 AM (e8kgV)

228
Allen G-
Your "An Inconvenient Truth" article lays out very clear distinctions to speak logically on the types of guns in the battle. Now I just have to be able to hold the logic long enough to deliver it. I screen saved it for this weekend!
Your "Tyranny" article today spells it out.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 09:55 AM (Sptt8)

229 The law in NY says owning a handgun is a privilege. Despite the SCOTUS rulings that it is an individual right, no NY court, state or federal, has changed that law. They are simply ignoring SCOTUS because they disagree with Heller and McDonald.

Posted by: real joe at January 29, 2013 09:55 AM (PD2ad)

230 226 The video is a little dry, but there are others out there. Nice to know at least.

Posted by: gigg at January 29, 2013 09:55 AM (41VCE)

231 Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 29, 2013 09:53 AM (wR+pz)

Oh, no. That's the crie du cor (I think I spelled that approximately right) of the Left in the tech industry.

"Internet access is a necessity in modern life, and so it should be a Right guaranteed by the government."

BTW- anyone who hears "net neutrality" and says, "Yeah, that's a good idea!": these are your allies.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 09:55 AM (8y9MW)

232 The sad thing is we could have fixed it with no bloodshed at several points just by destroying the initial infectant's lives.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)This was, is, and will always be the case with human nature. We're too afraid, stupid, or cursed to do the easy thing that prevents the unthinkable thing.

Posted by: Jaws at January 29, 2013 09:56 AM (4I3Uo)

233 Medical Service Officers are often involved in recruiting. Not sure what
was up with your friend, unless they first wanted him to get some
experieince first?


Not sure. I asked him if he was doing the Gold Bar Recruiting, but he said he could not because of his branch. This was right after he was commissioned, like the next day.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:56 AM (GQ8sn)

234 I just found out I've been paying for Netflix for the past year, without the benefit of watching anything.



How have you been "paying" for it for a year w/o knowing about it? What kind of billing were they running?

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 09:57 AM (53z96)

235 My doc has the concierge option, 20K/year. Gets your family premium appointments, etc. He sold out.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:57 AM (gKGI0)

236 jwest: "I guess I'll try it for a month or two while
actually watching something on it. If you're out buying a new tv, pay
more attention to the details than I did."


Also, note which TVs are spying on you. I understand Samsung will soon be recording the audience that watches its TVs (viewer sound and position) and using that data for marketing, advertising, and whatever their evil little minds can think of (if they aren't doing it already). Big Brother without commands coming through the TV.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 09:57 AM (eHIJJ)

237 I just found out I've been paying for Netflix for the past year, without the benefit of watching anything.

They had your credit card # and you didn't notice anything for the past year?

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:58 AM (GQ8sn)

238 234, IRS withholding style payment plan

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:58 AM (gKGI0)

239 For what it's worth, the Mary Cloggenstein thing stopped being funny awhile ago, now. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Libtardo at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (kmLUz)

240 >>>Seriously. Someone's going to get shot over this.



Sadly, I agree. The only, admittedly tiny, bright spot is that that
outcome is exactly what the Founders intended. They thought lives were
worth losing over it. Search your soul, I guess.

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 09:49 AM (3ZtZW)


You know, I think I’m really late to this party, and this is a bit of a rant, but I want to confess.

Four years ago (and in some cases, longer) some very alarmist voices
started popping up here. I never dreamed they were anything more than
tin-foil types. I mean, martial law? Repealing the 22nd? Confiscating
guns? Please. That shit just doesn’t happen in the States.

Yet here we are, in 2013, actively discussing amongst ourselves
whether or not we are actually willing to die on this hill. Not in some
romantic metaphorical sense, but in a stone-cold literal one. That’s
scary.

What’s scarier is that those alarmist voices don’t sound alarmist
anymore. They sound practical. It can be easily argued, through
well-supported empirical and tangible facts that Obama’s entire
Presidency has been leading to this: the disarming and enslaving of the
populace.

The media has become an arm of the government in a sense never before
seen. Bias we’ve seen. Advocacy and collusion we haven’t – not on this
scale.

The takers have overpowered the makers in terms of voting
demographics and planted our economy into what is – in my eyes – an
unrecoverable spin.

The government has begun making all the moves one would expect if
they were to declare themselves above the people. They are positioned to
declare us their subjects, and half of the country is screaming in
ecstasy. The other half is marveling at how easily it’s happened,
mourning the Republic, and quietly preparing for what looks more and
more likely to be the inevitable showdown.

When I swore my oath, I always knew it was possible for me to die
defending my country. I just never imagined it was possible for me to
die defending it from my government.

And so to the question: Is this a hill I’m willing to die on? Is this
a hill on which I’m willing to spill my blood in the literal sense of
the word? When the metal meets the meat, am I prepared to give my live protecting my country from itself?

Yes.

Posted by: washington nearsider at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (fwARV)

241
How have you been "paying" for it for a year w/o knowing about it? What kind of billing were they running?

Automatic deduction from a debit card that I used to pay for the tv.

It was less than 10 bucks a month, so I never noticed it.

Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (ZDsRL)

242 :::202
Can army chaplains be snipers on the side?
This is my boy who won the big money round at the Amvets shoot!
He wants the sniper patch on his paintball fatigues.
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 09:45 AM (Sptt::;

No.

Chaplains are not issued weapons. The chaplain's assistant serves as armed bodyguard, driver, altar boy, gopher and whatever else is required of him. Always seemed like a pretty shit job to me.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (eKiiX)

243 237 I just found out I've been paying for Netflix for the past year, without the benefit of watching anything.They had your credit card # and you didn't notice anything for the past year?
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Must be nice to be so rich you don't even read your bills.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (SO2Q8)

244 This is what happens when you let lawyers get involved in politics at any level. They parse everything in a manner that accrues to their benefit.


When the country goes down the crapper, you can bet there will be a lawyer pushing down on the handle.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 10:00 AM (Cnqmv)

245 239
For what it's worth, the Mary Cloggenstein thing stopped being funny awhile ago, now. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Libtardo at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (kmLUz)

Only if done incorrectly. I still appreciate a well-done sock of Mary.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:00 AM (xAtAj)

246 Must be nice to be so rich you don't even read your bills.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (SO2Q

Well, my secretary reads them. Does that count?

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at January 29, 2013 10:01 AM (wR+pz)

247 BTW- anyone who hears "net neutrality" and says, "Yeah, that's a good idea!": these are your allies.

Are they?

This topic is always slightly confusing to me. I can't tell who the real "small govt" folks are. I hear net neutrality and I think of govt forcing ISP's to provide equal bandwidth and service to all sites. Then I think of an ISP wanting to provide special service with additional pricing, and offering it to customers as a choice.

It's all very cloudy to me.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:01 AM (GQ8sn)

248 >>>Also, note which TVs are spying on you.

I've gotta wonder about that. Smart meters do the same kind of thing, spying on you. I'd think there would be a market for anti- or counter-spying tech booming fairly soon, no?

"The Capitalists will sell us the rope we hang them with" - Lenin
"A fool and his money are soon parted" - PT Barnum

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 10:02 AM (3ZtZW)

249 Automatic deduction from a debit card that I used to pay for the tv.

It was less than 10 bucks a month, so I never noticed it.

Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (ZDsRL)

I would think that a bank would require a signed contract before allowing any automatic deduction from an account.

Did you sign a contract?

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:02 AM (53z96)

250 Must be nice to be so rich you don't even read your bills.Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (SO2Q I read them, but don't really go into any detail unless there seems to be something way out of line.

Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 10:03 AM (ZDsRL)

251 ::;:233 Medical Service Officers are often involved in recruiting. Not sure what
was up with your friend, unless they first wanted him to get some
experieince first?

Not sure. I asked him if he was doing the Gold Bar Recruiting, but he said he could not because of his branch. This was right after he was commissioned, like the next day.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 09:56 AM (GQ8sn)::::

Yeah, but your friend was a butterbar. The chance he didn't know what he was talking about is close to 100%

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:03 AM (eKiiX)

252 Chaplains are not issued weapons. The chaplain's assistant serves as
armed bodyguard, driver, altar boy, gopher and whatever else is required
of him.



If they were, they could be called clerics instead.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:03 AM (GQ8sn)

253 Smart meters do the same kind of thing, spying on
you. I'd think there would be a market for anti- or counter-spying tech
booming fairly soon, no?



"The Capitalists will sell us the rope we hang them with" - Lenin

"A fool and his money are soon parted" - PT Barnum

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 10:02 AM (3ZtZW)

If you are talking about the same wireless electric meters that the people were raving about last week:

NO.THEY.DO.NOT
You need to find another truther thing to post about.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:03 AM (53z96)

254 If they were, they could be called clerics instead.

Only if they were restricted to blunt weapons.

Posted by: GMan at January 29, 2013 10:04 AM (sxq57)

255 Also, remember people, the Courts used to bless this view, used to actually say--in black and white letter rulings--that the word "people" in the 2nd actually meant "militia only."

So, if your betters in the law were willing to publicly write such obvious and stupid lies, what do you think they say in private?

The courts cannot protect your rights anymore.

We, the people, must take back our rights.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2013 10:04 AM (imtbm)

256 If they were, they could be called clerics instead.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:03 AM (GQ8sn)


LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 10:04 AM (l86i3)

257 The chaplain's assistant serves as armed bodyguard, driver, altar boy, gopher and whatever else is required of him. Always seemed like a pretty shit job to me.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (eKiiX)

I don't know. Kinda like being G-D's Corpsmen?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 10:04 AM (9Bj8R)

258 Yeah, but your friend was a butterbar. The chance he didn't know what he was talking about is close to 100%

Well the Colonel in charge of our ROTC battalion told him he couldn't do it. Not sure how he could confuse what he didn't know with what he was told.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:05 AM (GQ8sn)

259
Yeah, but your friend was a butterbar. The chance he didn't know what he was talking about is close to 100%
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:03 AM (eKiiX)


Butter Bars, aint heard that in awhile.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 10:05 AM (l86i3)

260 251 EoJ,

why is the dumbest private smarter than the smartest 2d LT?

because the private is told he is dumb every day.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:05 AM (LRFds)

261 It's all very cloudy to me.


Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:01 AM (GQ8sn)

Net neutrality is federal govt intrusion on internet freedom. Not too cloudy to me.
We'll revisit it if ISPs start blocking messages they don't like(packet shaping and the like).

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:05 AM (xAtAj)

262 Yeah, but your friend was a butterbar. The chance he didn't know what he was talking about is close to 100%

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:03 AM (eKiiX)


I once had to pull a butterbar out of the clap line on the ship and explain to him why officers did not stand in the clap line to be snickered at by everyone going down the passageway.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:05 AM (53z96)

263 >>>You need to find another truther thing to post about.

O cmon, I love me some obfuscation and paranoia

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 10:05 AM (3ZtZW)

264 Gets your family premium appointments, etc. He sold out.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:57 AM (gKGI0)

Mine offered a cheaper version, thank goodness, and it has been very good to have. I get guaranteed appointments with enough duration to actually discuss things, and I get email service which was invaluable over Christmas when a critical prescription got screwed up.
I don't really have the money, but I couldn't take the chance and there was a finite number of slots.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 10:06 AM (Cnqmv)

265
I would think that a bank would require a signed contract before allowing any automatic deduction from an account.

Did you sign a contract?


No. No "contract" contract. I'm sure it must have been a box that was checked or box a failed to check to opt out of getting Netflix.

I think I'll go back through the statements and see if there is anything else on there that is unfamiliar.

Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 10:06 AM (ZDsRL)

266 miranda lambert

time to get a gun

http://tinyurl.com/be5ymou

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 10:06 AM (GVxQo)

267 Net neutrality is federal govt intrusion on internet freedom. Not too cloudy to me.


That's what I was thinking. It sounds like another intrusion on how ISP's operate and do business.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:07 AM (GQ8sn)

268 Dem. Senator Mary Landrieu: Washington’s Spending Problem Exists Only On Fox News…




“I am not going to keep cutting the discretionary budget, which by the way is not out of control, despite what you hear on Fox News.”

Dems are fixated on FOX News? And also certifiable if they don't think spending is a problem?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 10:07 AM (9Bj8R)

269 Only if they were restricted to blunt weapons.


Posted by: GMan at January 29, 2013 10:04 AM (sxq57)

or longbows!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 10:07 AM (Cnqmv)

270 Vic, I just got through most of the morning headline thread and I see now where you posted on Rand Paul and Ginsberg and the SA constitution.

I was operating on my memory when I made my post in this thread; glad to see something on me still works.

Andy, this Edwards video is the best example I've seen to date showing just how wide the gulf is between 'conservatives' and 'progressives'. It really defines the whole issue starkly and quickly.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 10:08 AM (ccXZP)

271 This topic is always slightly confusing to me. I can't tell who the real
"small govt" folks are. I hear net neutrality and I think of govt
forcing ISP's to provide equal bandwidth and service to all sites. Then I
think of an ISP wanting to provide special service with additional
pricing, and offering it to customers as a choice.


Here is the "logic" (if you want to call it that) of "Net Neutrality." Because Internet Service is not regulated highly enough by the government, some ISPs might decide to throttle bandwidth for certain classes of customers, or certain specific websites.

For instance: small businesses might "only" be allowed so-much throughput, causing their site to run slow or crash if they get slammed, but bigger businesses could afford a better plan. (So, like it is today, when you think about it).

2nd For instance: Time Warner (closely affiliated with ESPN) could throttle traffic to MSN Sports (aka Fox Sports), thereby causing that site to load slowly for customers. (As far as I know, no one is doing this today. Further, it would actually be fairly problematical to start doing for both technical and "diplomatic" reasons).

The Net Neutrality crowd- believing that Internet access is (or at least should be) a "Right" has declared this operation of the Capitalist system to be "unfair." Therefore the Government should assume more control and tell ISPs what they can charge, and force them to give "equal" bandwidth to everyone.

Never mind that, for instance, Amazon.com takes in a whole lot more traffic than, say, The Ace of Spades Headquarters.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 10:08 AM (8y9MW)

272 I think I'll go back through the statements and see if there is anything else on there that is unfamiliar.


HELLO, MY FRIEND!

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:08 AM (GQ8sn)

273 :::Not sure how he could confuse what he didn't know with what he was told.:::


Because he was a butterbar. Look, dude. I don't make the rules. I just point em out.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:08 AM (eKiiX)

274 Poll: How many of you believe we should allow Mexico, Central and South America to encourage, assist, and send millions of poverty stricken illegal aliens and criminal gangand crime syndicate members across our southern border and teach them how to immediately apply for state and federal welfare benefits, free public education (bilingual, of course), and free medical care? Obviously, since the proof is in the pudding, a vast majority of Americans either don't care or feel completely isolated, angry, and helpless. Either that or this too is a "right."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 10:09 AM (wbmaj)

275 Must be nice to be so rich you don't even read your bills.

You can save a lot of money by having your useless family members put down.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 29, 2013 10:09 AM (ZKzrr)

276 :::I once had to pull a butterbar out of the clap line on the ship and explain to him why officers did not stand in the clap line to be snickered at by everyone going down the passageway. :::

Sounds like another Subic Bay adventure.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:09 AM (eKiiX)

277
That's what I was thinking. It sounds like another intrusion on how ISP's operate and do business.


Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:07 AM (GQ8sn)

Ok here's my one squish caveat.
The ISPs DID take fed money to expand to hard to reach areas. Therefore they've essentially been given oligarchy status by the govt. So if they start squelching freedom of information blatantly, I wouldn't categorically say no to regulation. Maybe a breakup of the telcos again, and end subsidies.

But for now, there is no smoke, much less fire.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:09 AM (xAtAj)

278 EXACTLY

/wtf are we talking about?

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 10:10 AM (3ZtZW)

279 Well the 4th went down with bipartisan support. They probably figure the 2nd will as well.

Posted by: Invictus at January 29, 2013 10:10 AM (OQpzc)

280 Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 10:06 AM (ZDsRL)

My one complaint about Netflix is the credit card billing. They were dual billing me for about six months before Mrs H caught it. They did refund the money back to the account, but it was a pain in the neck.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 10:10 AM (Cnqmv)

281 We'll revisit it if ISPs start blocking messages they don't like(packet shaping and the like).
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:05 AM (xAtAj)

We'll just develop our own language if necessary. What man can conceive man can deceive.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 10:10 AM (l86i3)

282 Do you need a passport to travel into Arizona or Michigan?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 10:10 AM (wbmaj)

283 Only if they were restricted to blunt weapons.
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Aren't we due for a Maces vs. Flails epic beatdown?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (SO2Q8)

284 New battle cry: Remember Texas!

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (wbmaj)

285 We'll just develop our own language if necessary. What man can conceive man can deceive.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 10:10 AM (l86i3)

VPN encryption all the time and PGP email might happen finally.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (xAtAj)

286 253 Vic,

What exists now under "smart meter" and what the govt wants that to become are 2 different things.

The Unified Smart Grid Tree Boy pushes for coupled with the necessary reduction in generating capacity will in fact lead to targeted rolling brown outs Vic, and since it is GOVERNMENT! based systems engineering I'd bet unplanned blackouts become a way of life if ever enacted.

They never strive for anything sensible and small no if we need CHANGE! let's make sure we strive to make it "as big as Ike's superhighways were in changing things!"

They ever wreck the grid there will be money to be made in propane/diesel back-up production for homes.

I plan to do my best to be independent of the grid as possible on my next house.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (LRFds)

287 You can save a lot of money by having your useless family members put down.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 29, 2013 10:09 AM (ZKzrr) I've got a cousin that is a prime candidate for that program, but for appearances we need to wait until he get some form of illness.

Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (ZDsRL)

288 Net neutrality is federal govt intrusion on internet freedom. Not too cloudy to me.


That's what I was thinking. It sounds like another intrusion on how ISP's operate and do business.


Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:07 AM (GQ8sn)

The Net Neutrality Bill was another attempt at Crony Corruption by the Democrats for people like Net Flix and other "movie providers". They wanted the government to force the internet providers to give them access at the same cost as small service providers while they were using 100 times the bandwidth and driving up infrastructure costs.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (53z96)

289 BTW- anyone who hears "net neutrality" and says, "Yeah, that's a good idea!": these are your allies.

Are they?

This topic is always slightly confusing to me. I can't tell who the real "small govt" folks are. I hear net neutrality and I think of govt forcing ISP's to provide equal bandwidth and service to all sites. Then I think of an ISP wanting to provide special service with additional pricing, and offering it to customers as a choice.

It's all very cloudy to me.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:01 AM (GQ8sn)



It's even murkier than that. There are two different topics that both use net neutrality. One version is forcing ISPs to provide equal bandwidth and to prevent tiered servicing. The second refers to attempts to make the FCC require equal time for political views on internet sites. The same term is thrown about for both things and they may be interrelated but do not have to be.

I'll admit that whenever the net neutrality debates start up I just tune out because it is extraordinarily rare for anyone to define what they mean by that term at the start of the debate.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 29, 2013 10:12 AM (VtjlW)

290 Because he was a butterbar. Look, dude. I don't make the rules. I just point em out.


Hmmm? Being told by the highest ranking officer that you are not allowed to do something is a strike against him?

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:12 AM (GQ8sn)

291 Nevergiveup: "And also certifiable if they don't think spending is a problem?"

To be fair, spending isn't a problem to them. They are beyond expert at it. Spending is the easiest thing there is. Now cutting... that's a problem.

And as a cesspool of lawyers and liars (BIRM), Congress will readily parse in their tiny little heads those words such that they are the truth: "Spending really isn't a problem."

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 10:12 AM (eHIJJ)

292 They wanted the government to force the internet
providers to give them access at the same cost as small service
providers while they were using 100 times the bandwidth and driving up
infrastructure costs.


Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (53z96)

I don't think that's totally true. I think it's more about the speed of packets. Large companies already pay per GB.

It's packet speed they wanted to be able to control. So ISP A might let Netflix packets through faster compared to ISP B for a little extra money.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:13 AM (xAtAj)

293 When Edwards says it's a right - he means it's free (or that someone else will pay for it). Nobody is denying internet to someone, or even college... if you pay for it - you can have it. There is no "common sense legislation" on the table for denying people the right to go to an assault college.

Posted by: realityman at January 29, 2013 10:13 AM (9AQdP)

294 268 NeverGiveUp,

well if Chubby Cheeks mary doesn't feel a trillion in new debt per annum with an ever shrinking discretionary % is an issue why are we nuking the military again???

Oh wait...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:13 AM (LRFds)

295 Moving packets around on off-peak hours is really cheap these days, down to a couple cents per GB. It's privatization that is in dispute. Right now it's FIFO(mostly), or at least a weighted queue per connection.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:14 AM (xAtAj)

296 prioritization*

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:14 AM (xAtAj)

297 I was scrolling down and ran into post 240. Talk about mind reading. I used to get a chuckle out of the compound crowd in Idaho: no more. I used to believe crackpot law like Feinstein's wouldn't see the light of day: no more. Confiscation will never happen: no more (read what the imbeciles in Albany tried to put into law). Would it ever come down to this; I'm of an age where I've seen a lot, both good and bad, and if it comes down to SHTF, I'm ready.

Posted by: Bill at January 29, 2013 10:15 AM (xFYVW)

298 It's packet speed they wanted to be able to control. So ISP A might let
Netflix packets through faster compared to ISP B for a little extra
money.

----

Well.... just consider it a tax and Im sure the Chief justice will approve.

Precedent.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 29, 2013 10:15 AM (nELVU)

299 Net neutrality is the progressive solution to a capitalist Internet relatively free from government control. Think about the Fairness Doctrine across all media as administered by Eric Red Holder using Executive Orders signed by Barack Hussein Obama

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 10:16 AM (Cnqmv)

300 People should have known then that guy was a disgusting idiot.

Did the dumb fuck ever read The Bill of Rights?

Pathetic. I bet if you asked him whether poontang was a "right" or "privilege" he would have said "gosh darn right!

Posted by: Marcus at January 29, 2013 10:16 AM (GGCsk)

301 :::It's even murkier than that. There are two different topics that both use net neutrality. One version is forcing ISPs to provide equal bandwidth and to prevent tiered servicing. The second refers to attempts to make the FCC require equal time for political views on internet sites. The same term is thrown about for both things and they may be interrelated but do not have to be.:::

I thought the second was the Fairness Doctrine. Unless it only applied to broadcast media.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:16 AM (eKiiX)

302 I plan to do my best to be independent of the grid as possible on my next house.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (LRFds) The property I tried to buy 22 years ago came back on the market. It's just what someone needs to go off the grid.Google 221 Mill St. Rd. Brooklyn MI

Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 10:17 AM (ZDsRL)

303 Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (LRFds)



There are zero electric meters now that can shut off power to your house via remote control. Some utilities experimented a few years ago with boxes to be installed IN your house that would allow them to shut off your A/C or hot water heater in return for discounted bills.


But if I am not mistaken even those have been discontinued because they were not able to make much difference in the load.


For almost ALL of the country individual home use does not constitute a large portion of the grid. Most of the power is being used by industrial and commercial businesses.


If you want proof just go out and look at a meter that is "wireless" and look for a large (100 amp or greater) breaker controlled by that wireless device. You will not find one.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:17 AM (53z96)

304 "Getting a little bit on the side?"

"A right. If you're a democrat."

Posted by: Dante at January 29, 2013 10:17 AM (NWLVJ)

305
The papers aren't signed, but it's obvious we have two Americas now. We need to be building businesses, media, manufacturing, everything in our America to replace what we will lose when we divide. Please, if you have skills and money, or you own a business, move to a red state.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 29, 2013 10:18 AM (MNWe/)

306 The Net Neutrality crowd- believing that Internet access is (or at least
should be) a "Right" has declared this operation of the Capitalist
system to be "unfair." Therefore the Government should assume more
control and tell ISPs what they can charge, and force them to give
"equal" bandwidth to everyone.



Ok, then I don't support this. If there's enough competition between ISP's, I won't have to worry about this.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:18 AM (GQ8sn)

307 :::There are zero electric meters now that can shut off power to your house via remote control. Some utilities experimented a few years ago with boxes to be installed IN your house that would allow them to shut off your A/C or hot water heater in return for discounted bills.:::

Yeah, but can they watch you fap?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:18 AM (eKiiX)

308 268 Dem. Senator Mary Landrieu: Washington’s Spending Problem Exists Only On Fox News…




“I am not going to keep cutting the discretionary budget, which by the way is not out of control, despite what you hear on Fox News.”

Dems are fixated on FOX News? And also certifiable if they don't think spending is a problem?

---

I think "Military Mary" is still pissed that someone blew the whistle on the "Louisiana Purchase" which got her to vote for Obamacare as well as the ensuing O'Keefe sting intended to prove she and her office were shutting off the phones to their offices in order to ignore the will of her constituents, like me.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 29, 2013 10:19 AM (e0xKF)

309 There it is in living color and in a nutshell; a highly educated and successful lawyer and politician who is hopelessly ignorant of the difference between a right and privilege.

At the most basic level, the difference is that a right comes from God and inures to all persons. They are, as Jefferson proclaimed, inalienable. Rights are the legal power to have another to act in a particular way or, as is the case with the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, to bar another from acting in a way toward you.

Privileges, in contrast, are created by the State and so are subject to removal by the state at its option/whim.

Thus, as Justice OW Holmes once famously pointed out in brooming some whiner out of his court, there is a right to free speech but there is no right to be employed as a policeman as government employment is a privilege.

Similarly, no one has any "right" to the labor of another which is why health care can simply never qualify as a "right". It is a commodity. A service, maybe a privilege. But it cannot ever be a right, because to deem it such would necessarily force an unwilling provider into involuntary servitude.

If health care or internet access are "rights" that government is obligated to provide, then how come I have to pay for them? And what about cable TV is that a right too? With the deluxe HBO package. And the Playboy Channel too.

Just as bad is Edwards' muddled thinking about citizenship being a "right". What Edwards is really saying is that simply by operation of the passage of time an illegal act (entering the country in violation of the law) can be transformed into a legal "right" .

God help us. We are doomed.


Posted by: History major at January 29, 2013 10:19 AM (Xv7f/)

310 302 JWest,

heh nice...

My uncle bought a schoolhouse that is prepped for Nuclear War....

only flaw is it is back home.

There was a definite artistry to turn of the last century construction that is lacking today.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:19 AM (LRFds)

311 Yeah, but can they watch you fap?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:18 AM (eKiiX)

How would you react if the answer were "yes"?

Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 10:20 AM (RD7QR)

312 Posted by: Bill at January 29, 2013 10:15 AM (xFYVW)

Thanks, Bill.

I posted it originally yesterday, but it's applicable - again - here.

I hate the idea of defending America from Americans, but this Republic was an idea long before it was the government. The idea is sound, and deserving of a defense.

All enemies, foreign and domestic.

Posted by: washington nearsider at January 29, 2013 10:20 AM (fwARV)

313 308 Brandon in BR,

yeah pretty much....she's gonna love this next cycle I'm betting.

NOLA better get more of their "cultural diplomats" from 9th ward to come home...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:20 AM (LRFds)

314 One version is forcing ISPs to provide equal
bandwidth and to prevent tiered servicing. The second refers to
attempts to make the FCC require equal time for political views on
internet sites. The same term is thrown about for both things and they
may be interrelated but do not have to be.



I'll admit that whenever the net neutrality debates start up I just
tune out because it is extraordinarily rare for anyone to define what
they mean by that term at the start of the debate.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 29, 2013 10:12 AM (VtjlW)

Not so. The Net Neutrality Bill was what I said earlier. There were two other separate bill the communists from NY put through to restore the Fairness Doctrine about 2005.
Both of those were shot down as well. But they will be back.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:21 AM (53z96)

315 [The second refers to attempts to make the FCC require equal time for
political views on internet sites. The same term is thrown about for
both things and they may be interrelated but do not have to be.:::



I thought the second was the Fairness Doctrine. Unless it only applied to broadcast media. /i]

The second is part of the Net Neutrality crowd's fear-mongering to get NN passed. See, without Daddy Government watching them, those big mean ISPs might shut down your blog, or sell you bandwidth at such a high price that you can never host more than a few dozen visitors at once.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 10:22 AM (8y9MW)

316 Part of the problem is this: "We hold these truths to be self-evident...". That is no longer the case. When people must have 'unalienable' explained to them, the handbasket is already smoking.

Posted by: Pentangle at January 29, 2013 10:22 AM (ymPSi)

317 D*mn.

Did anyone clean the barrel recently?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 10:22 AM (8y9MW)

318 I don't think that's totally true. I think it's more about the speed of packets. Large companies already pay per GB.

It's
packet speed they wanted to be able to control. So ISP A might let
Netflix packets through faster compared to ISP B for a little extra
money.


Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:13 AM (xAtAj)

The bill they were pushing through congress was to force the providers to not charge them per GB.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:22 AM (53z96)

319 :::311 Yeah, but can they watch you fap?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:18 AM (eKiiX)

How would you react if the answer were "yes"?
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 10:20 AM (RD7QR):::

Moar fapping.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:22 AM (eKiiX)

320 There was a definite artistry to turn of the last century construction that is lacking today.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:19 AM (LRFds) That building has a metal addition on the front that is ugly as hell. The original is beautiful. I went to the Ford archives at Greenfield Village and got copies of the construction blueprints. There are 1 foot thick wood floors and the generator can be upgraded from 50Kw to 85Kw.

Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 10:23 AM (ZDsRL)

321 Teh Krugman has some article titled "Takers, Makers and Fakers."

I don't have to read it to know what he says. I can already tell you the conclusion: Those crazy conservatives crying and complaining about how their taxes are going to the lazy are liars--they're the real takers.

Anyway, why am I a fan of Let It Fucking Burn?

Because even though I know it will be damned hard on me and a lot of us, it will be a damned sight harder on the FSA.

And I say that knowing full well that the most likely outcome of LIB is the FSA, roused by the Dems, will push for and pass even more laws taking from everyone else to give to the FSA.

But, LIB is the only chance where I can become invisible to the state.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2013 10:23 AM (imtbm)

322 303 Vic,

Yes Vic we agree. I am pointing out their desired and open goal not their capability today. Sort of in theme with Obama having to reassure gays that there will be a "doc fix" for same sex marriage as a 'right" in amnesty it beggars the imagination how these rabid nutballs stay whipped when by nature they are not all high priority "ever."

It'll be interesting to see which part of the grid gets screwed on purpose if that day ever comes.

My money is District 1 will stay lit and friendly industrial sectors.

Electricity will be just another Chicago Way shakedown tool.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:24 AM (LRFds)

323 My newly updated battle cries: Forget the Alamo--Remember Texas, California, Michigan, North Carolina, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, and [add your own as the list rapidly expands]!

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 10:25 AM (wbmaj)

324 The bill they were pushing through congress was to force the providers to not charge them per GB.


Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:22 AM (53z96)

Citation? I'm looking at the wiki page for the whole discussion and I don't see that.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:25 AM (xAtAj)

325 100 years of leftist indoctrination has succeeded in destroying the concept of inalienable rights, whether you think them natural or God-given. Now people think in terms of what government allows them to have and forbids to them, like a parent taking dessert away from a recalcitrant child. This is the philosophy of subjects, not citizens.

Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 10:26 AM (RD7QR)

326 Marcus: "Did the dumb fuck ever read The Bill of Rights?"

Occasionally there are questionnaires put out by educational/polling groups to survey what people know and don't know about the American experience: history, economics, law, government, that sort of thing.

The general public routinely scores poorly. You know who scores even worse? Politicians. I couldn't believe it when I first read some results a few years ago, but it seems to be the norm. And then we see asshats and frauds like Edwards and we have to think, "How could the results be otherwise?" I mean the idiot missed every single question. How is that possible? Statistically he should've stumbled over one correct answer by accident.

That, my good man, is who writes the laws which will control us: people who are both a) dumber and b) more dishonest than the average citizen.

Boned we are.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 10:26 AM (eHIJJ)

327 >>>I hate the idea of defending America from Americans

Don't get rattled. History shows whole societies can and do go completely batshit crazy once in awhile. Just our turn in the barrel. Our task is to prevent the 'completely' part of the description.

Anyway, back to work

Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 10:26 AM (3ZtZW)

328 Are we to the 'Fuck Rubio' point yet?

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 10:26 AM (wWb/B)

329 Right to internet, privilege to bear arms.

Amazing little video.

Posted by: Dustin at January 29, 2013 10:27 AM (D9999)

330 328
Are we to the 'Fuck Rubio' point yet?

Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 10:26 AM (wWb/B)

It's in my rear view mirror.

Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 10:27 AM (RD7QR)

331 Access to 3 hots and a cot? You earned it, Baby!

Posted by: Fritz at January 29, 2013 10:28 AM (WM+rJ)

332 328 zsasz,

getting there I have not finished my "Fuck Mccain" soda yet and Mikey Bloomberg doesn't let me mix drinks.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:28 AM (LRFds)

333 Citation? I'm looking at the wiki page for the whole discussion and I don't see that.

I wouldn't trust the Wiki for Net Neutrality. At the very least, I'd take it with a whole shaker full of salt.

Many (if not most) of the proponents realize that most Americans, once they realize the actual point of NN, would say, "seriously? This is what you're whining about?"

If you want to find out about Net Neutrality, hang around GizModo and Engadget.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 10:28 AM (8y9MW)

334 It's packet speed they wanted to be able to control. So ISP A might let Netflix packets through faster compared to ISP B for a little extra money.

...or throttle speeds from AoSHQ and National Review, for example, while expediting HuffPo and New Republic, 'cause reasons.

Never underestimate the potential for skullduggery.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Meadow Party 2016 at January 29, 2013 10:29 AM (GBXon)

335 Sorry if this has been discussed already

The JEF has the Army in Houston practicing suppression of the citizens. Check out The Blaze. Army has no notice exercise in neighborhoods of southeast Houston, running around the neighborhoods and frightening the citzenry. Anybody think its an accident this is happening in Texas? I don't.

Posted by: thunderb at January 29, 2013 10:29 AM (Dnbau)

336 Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:24 AM (LRFds)


Utilities already have the capability to do rolling blackouts by area, but not by individual homes.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:29 AM (53z96)

337 That, my good man, is who writes the laws which will control us: people who are both a) dumber and b) more dishonest than the average citizen.

---

Dumber depends on the politician.

Edwards is certainly far more dishonest than the average politician, let alone citizen, so I figure a lot of his crap is just populist rhetoric that he figures he can ride to easy street.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 29, 2013 10:30 AM (e0xKF)

338 Looking on Gunbroker for the magazines that hold 30 clips. None found. Maybe I'll try for the 40 clip magazine.


God love ya Joe.

Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 10:30 AM (fWAjv)

339 I thought the second was the Fairness Doctrine. Unless it only applied to broadcast media.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:16 AM (eKiiX)



Which is why I say the term net neutrality is murky. There are those who use net neutrality when they are referring to attempts to apply the Fairness Doctrine to the internet. There are those who use net neutrality to refer to bandwidth throttling mentioned above. There are those who use it to mean preventing ISPs from bandwidth throttling of sites containing political speech. The same term is used by different people for different things.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 29, 2013 10:31 AM (VtjlW)

340 Our task is to prevent the 'completely' part of the description.

Personally I see it as making it possible to recover and rejoin the ranks of functional, relatively sane societies, instead of becoming some Third World hellhole, or even worse, France.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Meadow Party 2016 at January 29, 2013 10:31 AM (GBXon)

341 If you want to find out about Net Neutrality, hang around GizModo and Engadget.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 10:28 AM (8y9MW)
The only thing I can find is this:"I want to ensure constituent companies like Netflix continue to grow
and are not hindered by discriminatory data caps or other tactics that
deny consumers the freedom and flexibility to stream video content
whenever and wherever they want," the Silicon Valley lawmaker said.
But no such bill actually exists, as the FCC net neutrality rules I think still stand.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:31 AM (xAtAj)

342 328 Are we to the 'Fuck Rubio' point yet?


Listen to the John Derbyshire podcast of Jan 19, and you might get there.

http://takimag.com/radioderb

He covers Rubio's disgraceful editorial in the WSJ.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 29, 2013 10:32 AM (Lxw+T)

343 Your rights are whatever you can enforce. That is harder to do disarmed.

Posted by: SurferDoc at January 29, 2013 10:32 AM (6H6FZ)

344 336 Vic,

Of course they do, they are not yet in the position of needing to do so as baseline part of the system engineering design.

This is the Goreons trying to be too cute by half and "demanding production meet real demand."

Well forgive me for suspecting that the end result when they are mandating things like 33%-50% "renewable energy" in their Fapping is that what they mean is "demand will fall to meet production."

I am not in love with that market dynamic ever, and am even less in love with it when it is being done in the service of some half-baked barking moonbat Gaia religion's Book of Revelations equivalent fantasy.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:33 AM (LRFds)

345 TFG and his minions can't simply declare the Constitution null and void; but rallying 34 states to call for an Article V convention for the FSA wish-list is out of reach as well.

I'm wondering if they get "conservatives" to do the dirty work: call a convention for something we want, like a balanced budget amendment, etc. Then hijack the convention with "socio-economic rights" amendments. Once the convention is called, the floor is open.

Posted by: Rule #2 at January 29, 2013 10:33 AM (CypDC)

346 Which is why I say the term net neutrality is murky.
There are those who use net neutrality when they are referring to
attempts to apply the Fairness Doctrine to the internet. There are
those who use net neutrality to refer to bandwidth throttling mentioned
above. There are those who use it to mean preventing ISPs from
bandwidth throttling of sites containing political speech. The same
term is used by different people for different things.







Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 29, 2013 10:31 AM (VtjlW)


Then there are those of us who believe it should be used to ensure that there are equal numbers of naked blondes, brunettes and gingers to fap to on the internet.

Can't show favoritism. We must remain neutral in the fappage.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 29, 2013 10:33 AM (da5Wo)

347 Listen to the John Derbyshire podcast of Jan 19, and you might get there.



http://takimag.com/radioderb



He covers Rubio's disgraceful editorial in the WSJ.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 29, 2013 10:32 AM (Lxw+T)

Derbyshire. I just don't know what to make of him. Half the time he's brilliant and the other half he's stepping on his crank.

Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 10:35 AM (RD7QR)

348 rubio is losing me like he's losing his hair.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 10:35 AM (GVxQo)

349 The only thing I can find is this:"I want to ensure constituent companies like Netflix continue to grow

and are not hindered by discriminatory data caps or other tactics that

deny consumers the freedom and flexibility to stream video content

whenever and wherever they want," the Silicon Valley lawmaker said.


Exactly their point. "Net Neutrality" is a prime example of an Orwellian Term. They want laws that prevent ISPs from creating "discriminatory data caps."

Never mind that no ISP has done so. Never mind that ISPs charge for basically two things (both summarized as "bandwidth"): amount of data moved, and the speed with which the bytes move. Never mind that it only makes sense that, say Netflix, would pay more based on pricing structures that existed (though perhaps not with the specific numbers they do now) prior to Netflix ever delivering a single movie via the web.

The point isn't "access to information" or to "prevent censorship." The point is to give the Government more control.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 10:36 AM (8y9MW)

350 We have the right to our lives. We have the right to be free.

And we have the right to PURSUE everything else.

NOT be given it. To PURSUE it, through our own efforts and talents.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 10:37 AM (8sCoq)

351 Citation? I'm looking at the wiki page for the whole discussion and I don't see that.


Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:25 AM (xAtAj)


That was from reading the Net Neutrality act of 2006 and the comments at the internet related sites who were opposed to it. They advertised it as one thing but once you delved into you could see what the bill actually did.

You would have to go back and find articles from 2006-2007 time frame. And do not believe ANYTHING on Wiki that is politically related.

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:37 AM (53z96)

352 340 Brother Cavil,

You gotta figure the best we may be able to get is to try to get our people with degrees to create an underground school of economic and legal thought akin to the Chicago School and the Original intent crowd. Endure the shitstorm and try to create pockets of non insane stability to reeducate the people in what can and cannot work indexed to liberty. The problem comes with people expecting 22 minute fixes now thanks to TV.

Maybe try to find an old UHF studio somewhere and rebroadcast pirate style after the implosion?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:37 AM (LRFds)

353 Attica O'leary may be out at CNN....broomed for Chris Cuomo....


goddamned pack of incestuous whores.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:39 AM (LRFds)

354 new one

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:40 AM (53z96)

355 351 Vic,

Amen....Wiki is a coordinated liberal operation on politics and the wiki folks are fine with lies.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:40 AM (LRFds)

356 The second is part of the Net Neutrality crowd's fear-mongering to get NN passed. See, without Daddy Government watching them, those big mean ISPs might shut down your blog, or sell you bandwidth at such a high price that you can never host more than a few dozen visitors at once.
----------------

Remember when they called the internet the digital wild west?
Good times.

Posted by: votermom at January 29, 2013 10:41 AM (tRl9M)

357 Then there are those of us who believe it should be used to ensure that
there are equal numbers of naked blondes, brunettes and gingers to fap
to on the internet.



Why are girls with brown hair and black hair both called "brunettes"? What do you call black hair anyway?

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:45 AM (GQ8sn)

358 Derbyshire works for me most of the time. At Takimag.com, his Jan. 24th mockery of the fag hispanic "poet" Obama trotted out for his recent deification ceremony was hilarious.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 29, 2013 10:45 AM (Lxw+T)

359 What do you call black hair anyway?

Morally superior, if it's nappy.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 29, 2013 10:47 AM (Lxw+T)

360 Yet these retards - I'm sorry that's an insult to retards.
These Ass-Hats keep getting elected because they are charming and pretty.

Telling us to wake up is moot. Everyone else needs to wake the hell up!

Posted by: tfox at January 29, 2013 10:48 AM (DVC2D)

361 311 Yeah, but can they watch you fap? Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:18 AM (eKiiX) How would you react if the answer were "yes"?
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PPV baby. I've finally got a marketable talent

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 10:53 AM (SO2Q8)

362
Oddly similar to that scene in Groundhog Day when Bill Murray asks Andie McDowell to describe her perfectman and with each attribute she lists he says, "me" with the same eye lookaway as Edwards.
http://youtu.be/lZHMJ3W2jco

Posted by: steve walsh at January 29, 2013 11:01 AM (xDQNc)

363 Hey fuckstick - if somebody else has to pay for it - livable wage, health care, etc. - it is not a right.

Posted by: butch at January 29, 2013 11:40 AM (0APJ3)

364 He's a faggot.

Posted by: Socktopus at January 29, 2013 12:20 PM (1FLBb)

365 Fuck me I can't believe I once voted for this nitwit.

Who was it that said that under socialism everything is free except for you? That was this video in one line, only to JE that's a good thing.

Posted by: BornLib at January 29, 2013 02:30 PM (zpNwC)






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