Overnight Open Thread (1-27-2013)

Hey all - I'm back after a week in Chicago at the Automate Show i.e. lots of robots, 0 degree weather and sampling various ethanol blends. Still recovering...

And mucho thanks to all the fill-in hosts who kept the USS ONT off the shoals for yet another week.

We Took a Car to the Moon - Three Times!

Sure the Lunar Roving Vehicle's top speed was only 8mph but that's exciting enough when you're in 1/6th Earth gravity.

124:58:52 Duke: The suspension system on that thing is fantastic!

124:58:54 England: That sounds good. We sound like we probably got enough of the Grand Prix. We're willing to let you go on from here. Call that a (complete) Grand Prix.

124:59:03 Duke: Okay. (Pause) Man, that was all four wheels off the ground, there. Okay. Max stop.

And took some dash cam footage along the way:

America is Arming Up

In just the last two months Americans have bought enough weapons to outfit the entire Indian and Chinese armies combined. And 67 million(!) guns have been bought since Obama took office.

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Throwing Sand in the Gears of Obamacare

John Nolte is just following the law:

Here's the two plus two: Starting next year, you can wait until you're sick to purchase health insurance. And if you do so, you cannot be denied or even charged a higher premium price. Here's the four: Because the ObamaCare penalty to be uninsured is much cheaper than purchasing insurance, why not do exactly that?

As I laid out in this piece, because ObamaCare allows me to game the system in this way, for the first time in over 25 years, I'm an uninsured-American. Going forward, my plan is to pay the annual penalty, which is ridiculously cheaper than insurance, and only purchase health insurance should I get sick.

As soon as the masses figure out this option under Obamacare - that there's even less of an incentive to purchase health insurance than there was before ObamaCare passed - that's how the system crashes.

Merimna and the Provocation of Weakness

The perfect metaphor for the situation created by president Obama was created by Edward Plunkett in his classic short story The Sword of Welleran. In it, a fabled city rich with treasure is defended largely by the memory of its past glory and strength. But now the brigands suspect that the great heroes standing firm upon the wall are but fakes. One evening a pair of raiders, their lives already forfeit climb the wall, and still sick with fear approach the figures whose deeds still struck terror in the hands of the bandits. And they find them nothing but statues.
All across the board a wide variety of people are beginning to suspect something similar to what Halsey found in 1944. That under the bombast and veneer of invincibility the Obama administration is a shambling, incompetent, hollow shell. It has self-admittedly lost control of its borders; it is unable to pass a budget and now for all the world to see it cannot even protect its own diplomatic missions.

The Mantra of Our Times

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Jim Belushi Doesn't Appreciate Chick Advice

.and Jenny was sitting in the passenger seat. Here comes the test, guys, for a successful marriage: She lifts her hand oh-so-gently, sticks her finger out, and points at the next street and says, "Why don't you turn here? It's shorter." I stopped the car, pulled over to the side, took off my seat belt, did a full, dramatic turn and looked at her in the eye. I said, "I think you're cool, but never, ever ever tell me where to go in a car. Never point to a street, never tell me which way is shorter, never talk to me about directions while I am driving my car. Never make a sound like an 'oof' when there is a car coming near us. I am the master of my car. I am in charge of machinery. This is my Batmobile. Robin doesn't tell Batman where to go. I will decide, right or wrong, which way we are going . But I still think you are cute. I like you."

On the other hand he's been married to Jenny for 17 years now.

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Cheese fire in Norway tunnel burns for 5 days

I'll take unlikely headlines for 100, Alex.

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Also how about some Cheesy Soft Pr0n?

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You Can Have My Kittens When You Pry Them From My Cold Dead Arms

Environmentalists want to make New Zealand kitteh-free:

Morgan called on his countrymen Tuesday to make their current cat their last in order to save the nation's unique bird species. He set up a website, called Cats To Go, depicting a tiny kitten with red devil's horns. The opening line: "That little ball of fluff you own is a natural born killer."

And the good news is that you won't probably won't have to euthanize your kitty immediately:

He doesn't recommended people euthanize their current cats -- "Not necessarily but that is an option" are the site's exact words.

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From the Morons:

When Stripping Goes Wrong (Thanks to TN)

Video: Fiscal Cliff and Income Taxes

Warren Buffett's cons, Hollywood accounting scams vs Anne Hathaway's cooter. (thanks to David D.)

Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [1605 comments] 'sven10077' [225.31 posts/day]
2 [484 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)'
3 [440 comments] 'Vic'
4 [418 comments] 'Jones in CO'
5 [388 comments] 'Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj '
6 [352 comments] 'Jane D'oh'
7 [333 comments] 'HeatherRadish? needs a beer'
8 [289 comments] 'tasker'
9 [279 comments] 'BCochran1981'
10 [277 comments] 'thunderb'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [51 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)' [7.16 unique names/day]
2 [42 names] 'The Political Hat'
3 [37 names] 't-bird'
4 [35 names] 'kbdabear'
5 [35 names] 'Brandon In Baton Rouge'
6 [30 names] 'Baron Vladimir Harkonnen'
7 [29 names] 'Cicero Kid'
8 [28 names] 'andycanuck'
9 [25 names] 'HeatherRadish? needs a beer'
10 [22 names] 'Romeo13'

The group. Yeah.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by Madonna and her pussy:

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Comments

1 MAET! Welcome back

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:06 PM (BBWjt)

2 Hiya, Maet! First?

Posted by: L Rob in OK at January 27, 2013 10:07 PM (7yvLv)

3

Hillary!: " What Difference Does It Make?"

I expect her to find out in 2016.


Posted by: Arbalest at January 27, 2013 10:07 PM (3E35L)

4 Holy Hell Sven!

And is it just me or is Madonna's Pussy hairier than i remember from the sex book.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:07 PM (+OTLF)

5 CANKLES AWAY!

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:07 PM (+OTLF)

6 The Progressive War on Nevada

The hyper-leftist organization, the Progressive Leadership Alliance of Nevada (PLAN), hosted a preemptive rebuttal to Gov. Sandoval’s State of the State address, and delivered by former state Senator Sheila Leslie. In her address, she espoused the usual unthinking canned ideas of the left. The complete speech can be seen below. After that, a bit of commentary. The vast majority of the “Progressive State of the State” consisted of calls for raising taxes, raising taxes again, gay marriage, and raising taxes even more. She started out by declaring that Nevada was in fact rich, but that an evil “cabal” forced the faceless masses into grinding poverty. With “renewable energy,” such as the corporatist stooges of Amonix, she believed that Nevada ought to be a paradise; of course, the Soviet Union was also supposed to be a workers’ “paradise.”

Her solution? TAX THE RICH!!`!~eleventy!!1!

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=1308

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2013 10:08 PM (Vk2pI)

7 yeah, that is good for John Nolte, but the problem is, the waiting period for new insurance still exists. So if/when you do get sick, it is true that the insurance company is now forced to grant you insurance, but they can still make you wait maybe 6 months before they start covering any of the treatments.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:08 PM (BBWjt)

8 This thread is compelling and rich

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:09 PM (8sCoq)

9 Maet,
Were you an exhibitor or an attendee ?

Posted by: seamrog at January 27, 2013 10:09 PM (yO44c)

10 Hillary becoming president would be the best think that could happen to this country.

We need more intern blowjobs for Bill like in the good old days, and the only way thats happening is if we get the Clinton's back in the white house.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:09 PM (+OTLF)

11 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2013 10:10 PM (JMmQ9)

12 Umm...Obama wants you to be doing what Nolte suggests. It's part of the plan to bankrupt the private insurance market and then you'll be left with only the government option.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 27, 2013 10:10 PM (nZvGM)

13 I'd like my post count split into 4 please...

there's at least 4 personalities in there I hope.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:10 PM (LRFds)

14 I find that Constipated Hillary expression very disturbing, yet I cannot say why.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 27, 2013 10:10 PM (ifYRI)

15 Any cute Japanese robots?

Posted by: sTevo at January 27, 2013 10:10 PM (VMcEw)

16 Hillary is not going to run in 2016.

It's going to be either Joe Biden (if he doesn't have another "aneurysm") or some Midwestern governor who is a faux-moderate, in the BJ Clinton mold.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:11 PM (BBWjt)

17 Glad to see you back Maet!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 27, 2013 10:11 PM (GEICT)

18 I regret that once again I am in the top 10 of commenters. I plead too much time on my hands, as I am currently without daily work.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:11 PM (8sCoq)

19 4) Jeremiah GDBO,

yeah what can I say...

won't be on it next week...."maybe" will depend on how much free/dwell time I have in texas....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:12 PM (LRFds)

20 We can get a car to the moon. An remote control rv to mars and can't make a dvd player that can get past the fucking skip/stuck part. Fuck off.

Posted by: harleycowboy at January 27, 2013 10:12 PM (+9AX9)

21 I am SO glad I did not watch the BO/Hil show on 60 minutes. It feels so good to have avoided that brain trash. :-)
(I just had to share how good it feels)

Posted by: carolina at January 27, 2013 10:12 PM (JebKA)

22 Sven! This is for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33OftaiCq_U

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:12 PM (+OTLF)

23 1 [1605 comments] 'sven10077' [225.31 posts/day]


sven, please, get help

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:12 PM (BBWjt)

24 18 Jones in CO,

well when wife gets out of Army by hook or by crook I may try to start up an LLC/Conglomerate....no joke

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:12 PM (LRFds)

25 My "News of the Week" compilation of the news

http://politicalhat.com/?p=1313

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2013 10:12 PM (Vk2pI)

26 Wife says I am grounded....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:13 PM (LRFds)

27 Now that we are all armed up, need to start forming a trust based cellular network ... for political fundraising and gun porn, for now.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2013 10:13 PM (DcbLC)

28 if I had mad p-shop skilz (which I don't), I'd p-shop Tard the Grumpy Cat into that picture

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2013 10:13 PM (JMmQ9)

29 Howdy, all! And welcome back, Maet! We've missed you!




Thanks to everyone who has done a bang-up job on the ONT the last few nights!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2013 10:15 PM (kaalw)

30 Re: Ryan and Hilary,

Ok, I agree he'd have done MUCH better to say that BILL clinton would've had the economy fixed by now.

It's a tactical botch, but I don't think we need to worry about Paul Ryan selling us out for Hilary, given that I have doubts about her health in 2016 given her recent serious problems (concussions are always serious, esp. the older you get), and elderly women's lack of popular appeal.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:15 PM (Y5I9o)

31 Yup Maet glad you're safe.....did you get to practice any escape and evasion tactics?


Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:15 PM (LRFds)

32 >> As soon as the masses figure out this option under Obamacare - that there's even less of an incentive to purchase health insurance than there was before ObamaCare passed - that's how the system crashes.

Wrong. That's when you get Single Payer.

Posted by: Andy at January 27, 2013 10:15 PM (OZPoa)

33 Actually I can see Jay Nixon from Missouri running. He's a 2-term governor just like BJ Clinton and he is a "moderate" about as much as all of the blue dogs are

but with as far polarized as the liberals have become, they'd probably call him a right-wing nut job

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:16 PM (BBWjt)

34 The moon rover needed a quickie repair, so Gene Cernan did what any red-blooded American man would do-

he got some duct tape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzHEyUkyt9Y

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:16 PM (8sCoq)

35 I will be voting for whichever democrat latino/latina is running against the marxist....which oddly enough is an exercise in circular argument....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:16 PM (LRFds)

36 Jones in CO, I am sorry, hope gainful employment finds you soon

have you considered moving to a redder state?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:17 PM (BBWjt)

37 (hint, hint: Now is the time to begin pushing the "Hilary is too old" meme. Compare the buzz about McCain being too old, his time is passed, in 2008. That kind of "obvious conventional wisdom" is what works with chin-stroking no-info voters.]

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:17 PM (Y5I9o)

38 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at January 27, 2013 10:17 PM (LUnTP)

39 Were you an exhibitor or an attendee ?

Exibicionist.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 10:17 PM (JgkPs)

40 hint, hint: Now is the time to begin pushing the "Hilary is too old" meme.

yup, so when 2016 rolls around and someone mentions "man, how old is that hag, anyway? she's getting up there in years", the low-info voter can proudly state his one single fact that he knows in his tiny brain, "yeah, I've heard that for a while now"

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:18 PM (BBWjt)

41 Hillary is not going to run in 2016.

It's going to be either Joe Biden (if he doesn't have another "aneurysm") or some Midwestern governor who is a faux-moderate, in the BJ Clinton mold.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:11 PM (BBWjt)


Aside from Biden and Hillary, who else do they have that might run?

Cuomo is likely to run.

If Booker goes to the Senate (either by defeating a geriatric or the open seat vacated by a child hooker connoisseur), he'll likely run.

If Gavin Newsome gets appointed to the Senate from Caliornia, he might run (or if Gov. Moonbeam keels over dead and Newsome replaces him).

Montana's Gov. might run (current or past).

I can't see a "mid-western" Dem Gov. run because they don't have any that aren't totally toxic.

I could see one of VA two Dem Senators possibly run.

Not a huge list.

This is one of the reasons why the party in charge looses after two terms... there aren't many people from the same party that are both prominent and experienced. The GOP had this problem in '08, and the Dems will likely follow in '16.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2013 10:18 PM (Vk2pI)

42
Age 70 is the new 143....

Hillary 2016

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 27, 2013 10:18 PM (AC0lD)

43 40 Chemjeff,

be sure to spread in espanol as well...

I get the feeling it'll be Booker....

or Van Jones

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:19 PM (LRFds)

44 >have you considered moving to a redder state?


Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:17 PM (BBWjt)

I need to look out for my dear old 76-yr old Mum- I'm all she's got

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:19 PM (8sCoq)

45 hola roberto

this kitteh is for you

http://tinyurl.com/avxpzwn

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:19 PM (BBWjt)

46 Moon Machines - The Lunar Rover. 44 minutes long.
http://youtu.be/dbpmox-_bDM

Less than 500 comments and still at #2. Okay, back to writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2013 10:20 PM (PzMYS)

47 Hillary is not going to run in 2016.

It's going to be either Joe Biden (if he doesn't have another "aneurysm") or some Midwestern governor who is a faux-moderate, in the BJ Clinton mold.

***

If Booker wins the Senate seat, I would expect him to be in the running in 2016.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:20 PM (piMMO)

48 Hi ONT! Whatcha got?



'cause I got nuthin'

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 10:20 PM (1OZSU)

49 Cheese fires are often snuffed out with little pieces of toasted bread and a nice wine.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 10:20 PM (jp2Ur)

50 I have a confession, after reading about it hear I decided to watch that MTV Catfish show. It was strangely compelling. And also a bit disheartening to realize just how full of awful people the world is now. Or, maybe not awful but truly pathetic. I don't know anymore whether to feel sorry for them or be horrified by them.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:20 PM (RZ8pf)

51 Barack Obama laid out a laundry list of "We the People" stuff last week. How's the old list doing?

We, the people

in Order to form a more perfect Union---a tad bit shaky, no?

establish Justice--what are the Reddit guys saying right now?

insure domestic Tranquility--unless we like your Occupy-style politics, on which case tranquility can go hang.

provide for the common defence--Benghazi is not common, so I guess we are okay here, unless you are talking about an invasion from Mexico. Which John McCain was today. He said we have to surrender.

promote the general Welfare--general, not favored group. Oh well. Next Republic, maybe.

and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity--yeah.

Posted by: Paul at January 27, 2013 10:20 PM (Xdu4X)

52 I love Colorado- although I would prefer to live out on the western slope- Grand Junction, maybe Montrose

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:21 PM (8sCoq)

53
Help Wyatt caption the Mooch eyeroll photo.

http://tinyurl.com/alcuxoa

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 27, 2013 10:21 PM (qo244)

54 46 Ms Puma,

Good luck....

I'm pondering writing something.....you know maybe a grocery list or a recipe

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:21 PM (LRFds)

55 anyone who thinks Hillary wont run in 2016 is delusional and doesnt really know the clintons.

The clintons are to political power what Moochelle is to dining on Lobsters. They cant stop once its infront of them.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:21 PM (+OTLF)

56 40:yup, so when 2016 rolls around and someone mentions "man, how old is that hag, anyway? she's getting up there in years", the low-info voter can proudly state his one single fact that he knows in his tiny brain, "yeah, I've heard that for a while now"
Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:18 PM (BBWjt)
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This is also the mechanism behind why we lose due to education.
1) Schools teach the slogans
2) Kids hear the Dems repeat the slogans
3) Kids think, "hey, I'm smart because a 'smart' guy is saying what I 'learned' in school!"

It's like feeling cool because you knew the band before they became popular.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:21 PM (Y5I9o)

57 Madonna was cute before she turned into a dried out skag.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 27, 2013 10:22 PM (DoZD+)

58 23 ChemJeff,

I can stop any...time....anytime!

I have help....I cut it in almost half right?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:22 PM (LRFds)

59
Hillary as President. Good Lord we can't survive 12 years of American hating apologists.

Posted by: Crotchetyoldjarhead at January 27, 2013 10:22 PM (sItLn)

60 I got something to say about the pussy pic


but then again I really don't



Posted by: Jake in ID at January 27, 2013 10:22 PM (jfSqj)

61 If Booker goes to the Senate (either by defeating a geriatric or the open seat vacated by a child hooker connoisseur), he'll likely run.

If Gavin Newsome gets appointed to the Senate from Caliornia, he might run (or if Gov. Moonbeam keels over dead and Newsome replaces him).

***

You beat me to it on Booker. As for Newsome, it's difficult to find anyone less deserving and more polarizing than he.

Of course, voting for him would be like one big high-five for nailing Kimberly Guilfoyle.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:22 PM (piMMO)

62 anyone who thinks Hillary wont run in 2016 is delusional and doesnt really know the clintons.

The clintons are to political power what Moochelle is to dining on Lobsters. They cant stop once its infront of them.
Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:21 PM (+OTLF)

Yep.

Bolsheviks never rest.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 10:22 PM (jp2Ur)

63 The Fondue Tunnel

Posted by: TexasJew at January 27, 2013 10:22 PM (lD8ju)

64 Jereimah nice link, if I gte a 1911 I'm gonna get a base 1911 non a-1 so I can use it for SASS Wild Bunch.....

if I go with the Sig I may get it ported.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:22 PM (LRFds)

65 PGiS hi! how's it going? how did the science fair go?

what is this Catfish show about?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (BBWjt)

66 Oh come on, we all know who they are going to run in 2016, Michelle Obama. And if you don't vote for her you are a double whammy racist and sexist.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (RZ8pf)

67 sven - check out this link http://tinyurl.com/aba2j9e

Definitely encouraging.

Posted by: T.Hunter - let it burn at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (EZl54)

68 Update: as of 2:30 this afternoon, the Walmart in Saline, Michigan (just outside the wire of The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor) is almost completely out of hand gun and rifle ammo, and the shelves with the shot-shells are getting bare.

I can safely say that I have more ammo in my basement than the local Walmart has in stock.

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (JMmQ9)

69 be sure to spread in espanol as well...

I get the feeling it'll be Booker....

or Van Jones

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:19 PM (LRFds)


Booker is the greater threat.

We must tarnish him as much as possible now as we can.

We were given fair warning about the SCoaMF in his '04 DNC speech.

We have fair warning of Booker now.

http://politicalhat.com/tag/cory-booker/

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (Vk2pI)

70 Hillary in 2016? Maybe. I think a better question is which state is she going to move to in order to run for Senate in 2014 first.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (GULKT)

71
Madonna was cute before she turned into a dried out skag.

She was a hot skank in Vision Quest. Just sayin...

Posted by: Crotchetyoldjarhead at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (sItLn)

72 chemjeff, did you see my post last thread about not having to pay for rental, time, lessons etc.
You know people.

Posted by: teej at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (b9+ZZ)

73 Of course Hillary will run. As will Joe Biden. God help us, Moochelle probably will. I'd say pass the popcorn but it'll probably cost a thousand dollars by then. And butter will be illegal.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 27, 2013 10:24 PM (DoZD+)

74 55 anyone who thinks Hillary wont run in 2016 is delusional and doesnt really know the clintons.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:21 PM (+OTLF)
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Oh I think she'll run. But I doubt she'll do so unopposed. The Obama admin, having been run by the force of a media personality, is going to collapse into a bitter succession crisis after he's gone. Just like all other personality-driven ventures (cf. Julio-Claudians up through Stalin).

Hilary's old and damaged, and I don't think she'll make it against a young, ambitious, ethnic opponent.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:24 PM (Y5I9o)

75 Jones, I think I stopped in Grand Junction once, on one of my roadtrip adventures, it seemed more hippified that I would have expected

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:25 PM (BBWjt)

76 Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:19 PM (BBWjt)


METAL!!!!!!! \m/

Posted by: Robert at January 27, 2013 10:25 PM (LUnTP)

77 I have a confession, after reading about it hear I decided to watch that MTV Catfish show. It was strangely compelling. And also a bit disheartening to realize just how full of awful people the world is now. Or, maybe not awful but truly pathetic. I don't know anymore whether to feel sorry for them or be horrified by them.

****

I watched it for the first time about a week before the Teo story broke and was intrigued.

Kids today have no idea whatsoever what it means to establish a relationship with an actual human being.

Kind of like that car commercial when the kid is mocking her parents for all their outdoor activities and says "I have 700 online friends. THAT'S living!"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:25 PM (piMMO)

78 66 Oh come on, we all know who they are going to run in 2016, Michelle Obama. And if you don't vote for her you are a double whammy racist and sexist.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (RZ8pf)
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oh shit, I forgot about that. I'm skeptical, but they might just try it...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:25 PM (Y5I9o)

79 That pic of Madonna with cat is animal abuse. Poor kitty, just don't go to New Zealand darling.

I like Nolte's idea except I have kids and I don't have this luxury. Also, isn't bankrupting private insurance his ultimate goal? Make everybody dependent on the government teat.

Hillary has blood on her hands and is seriously looking bad. Just seeing that bumper sticker picture of her is bad enough. Her voice is one that reminds every man what they hated about their ex-wife, ex-gf.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 10:26 PM (EAgmr)

80 @PGiS: you stole my thunder.

Of course Michelle Obama will be the demtard nominee in 2016.

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2013 10:26 PM (JMmQ9)

81 67 T Hunter,

Yeah read it earlier, my serious feeling is I hope they do their worst.

I also beg ANY red stater stuck in Blue Land to consider the sacrifice of moving to density and leaving the blue to devour themsevles.

Nullification will be brought to a head soon, the leftist blabbogenzia is trying to mainstream disdain for the Constitution, we really are going to have to make our case in Spanish.

GOP "leaders" are about to betray us.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:26 PM (LRFds)

82 If Booker gets the Senate seat, there is a 95%+ chance he's on the ticket.

I could easily see Clinton/Booker or Cuomo/Booker, though if Newsome is Senator or Gov. by then, he might get the 2nd place spot.

Newsome should be gone after NOW.

Attack early and often.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2013 10:26 PM (Vk2pI)

83 First off, someone who has the eye on the nomination in 2016 doesn't just quit their job in 2012 with nothing lined up. What is Hillary going to do now? She's already been a Senator and Secretary of State. What is left for her?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:27 PM (BBWjt)

84 Okay well I am going to try to go bed at a decent hour tonight....was good seeing you all....


Stay thirsty my friends and when I vote I always vote SCOAMF...

//World's least Interesting beer Ad man

be safe see y'all soon

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2013 10:27 PM (LRFds)

85 In 2016 the GOP will nominate some dumb ass RINO and the Democrats will win again.

Either way.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 10:28 PM (jp2Ur)

86 Oof.

Okay, uh...gettin' a call.

From nature.

Think I'll go to bed, too.

Good night, ONT!

Posted by: Robert at January 27, 2013 10:28 PM (LUnTP)

87 oh lord, POTUS Moochelle? shoot me now

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:28 PM (BBWjt)

88 I love Colorado- although I would prefer to live out on the western slope- Grand Junction, maybe Montrose


Posted by: Jones in CO

Montrose Glenwood Springs are beautiful. I'm in Junction and it isn't so bad either. 85% in this country vote conservative so there is that.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 10:28 PM (EAgmr)

89 what is this Catfish show about?

***

A couple of years ago this young man discovered that his online love was actually a completely made up person. An older woman had used the photo of a hot young woman and created a persona to go along with it. When he went to meet her fr the first time, he took a camera along and the story became a documentary.

Now, that same young man helps people with online loves discover the truth behind the secret identities.

Thus far, I haven't seen a single episode where the folks on the the end of the line didn't turn out to be full of shit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:29 PM (piMMO)

90
hi chemjeff, well we were set to do the gallium spoon but the boy's asshat father interfered and said not so fast he wanted to brainstorm ideas so I should back off. So, I did. I promised the boy that if his dad decides that he should do something else then we'd make the gallium spoon on our own for fun.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:29 PM (RZ8pf)

91 30
Re: Ryan and Hilary,



Ok, I agree he'd have done MUCH better to say that BILL clinton would've had the economy fixed by now.



It's a tactical botch, but I don't think we need to worry about Paul
Ryan selling us out for Hilary, given that I have doubts about her
health in 2016 given her recent serious problems (concussions are always
serious, esp. the older you get), and elderly women's lack of popular
appeal.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:15 PM (Y5I9o)

Actually the concussion is the least of Hilary's concerns, her alcoholism is the elephant in the room, pardon the pun. The media covered it up when she was in Arkansas and at the White House, but in the last year or so when there was chatter that she might challenge or not back the JEF, suddenly all the pictures of drunk Hilary started to surface.

Cat is now out of the bag, and it will be hard for the MFM to put it back in, but they will try.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 27, 2013 10:29 PM (Zd/NW)

92 83 First off, someone who has the eye on the nomination in 2016 doesn't just quit their job in 2012 with nothing lined up. What is Hillary going to do now? She's already been a Senator and Secretary of State. What is left for her?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:27 PM (BBWjt)
----

Well, for one thing, all the recent news about Hilary has been a convenient distraction from the gun grabbing...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:29 PM (Y5I9o)

93 I can't possibly imagine Biden running in 2016. That is too freaking bizarre.

Any country who would elect him deserves everything it gets.

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2013 10:29 PM (sdi6R)

94 >Jones, I think I stopped in Grand Junction once, on
one of my roadtrip adventures, it seemed more hippified that I would
have expected


Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:25 PM (BBWjt)

It's Colorado- there's hippies and freaks everywhere

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:29 PM (8sCoq)

95 83

Well,
Hillary has never been a pole dancer, so there's that..

Posted by: TexasJew at January 27, 2013 10:30 PM (lD8ju)

96 Madonna was cute before she turned into a dried out skag.>>

To all you under 30 somethings. There is beauty in youth (18+) point out any 20 something chick you wouldn't bang to a 50+ guy. His response will be I'd tap that 90% of the time.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 27, 2013 10:30 PM (qo244)

97
Hillary is to politics as Janice Joplin was to rock and roll... ugly stars who couldn't get laid and made it big basedsolely on the merits ofbeing a woman.

Posted by: Crotchetyoldjarhead at January 27, 2013 10:31 PM (99xOX)

98 madonna has sausage fingers in that picture

Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 27, 2013 10:31 PM (GVxQo)

99 That should have been county not country....yikes.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 10:31 PM (EAgmr)

100 First off, someone who has the eye on the nomination in 2016 doesn't just quit their job in 2012 with nothing lined up. What is Hillary going to do now? She's already been a Senator and Secretary of State. What is left for her?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:27 PM (BBWjt)

Her job for the next fours years is to run for President. She'll go on the speaking circuit, head a bullshit foundation or two, go on another "listening tour", etc.

She does not have to have "a job".

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 10:31 PM (jp2Ur)

101 @91:

You mean THIS drinking problem?

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/161552/

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:32 PM (Y5I9o)

102 It's a tactical botch, but I don't think we need to worry about Paul
Ryan selling us out for Hilary, given that I have doubts about her
health in 2016 given her recent serious problems (concussions are always
serious, esp. the older you get), and elderly women's lack of popular
appeal.


***

No. He won't sell us out for Hillary. Absolutely not. Yet, if he's going to try and be clever, then he needs to do a better job of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:32 PM (piMMO)

103 >Montrose Glenwood Springs are beautiful. I'm in
Junction and it isn't so bad either. 85% in this country vote
conservative so there is that.


Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 10:28 PM (EAgmr)

I like western CO- I really dig the high desert landscapes, there's great motorcycle riding out there, and I would love to get away from the Front Range cities

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:32 PM (8sCoq)

104 66
Oh come on, we all know who they are going to run in 2016, Michelle
Obama. And if you don't vote for her you are a double whammy racist and
sexist.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:23 PM (RZ8pf)
That cunt doesnt have a chance in hell of beating hillary.On top of that he only experience is calling up the taxi company to shuttle poor patients from the emergency room of her expensive hospital to an inner city butcher shop. What else has she done besides dismember lobster at a breakneck pace?She has no experience at anything and she doesnt have the charisma of Barack Jesus christo Obama. Once she opens her mouth its all down hill.The only reason she is so popular is because the either keep her mouth shut or keep it stuffed with lobster so she cant talk. She is going to atleast have to be a senator for 4 years before she tries the Obama Returns bs. Hopefully by then she will have ass cancer and drop dead or aliens will land and put us all out of our misery.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:32 PM (+OTLF)

105 No, seriously. What is Hillary going to do between 2012 and now to keep herself relevant to be able to win the nomination?

She's not running, she's done. And besides even if she did run, she wouldn't win the nomination because the Democrat base now is more liberal and polarized than ever. They won't settle for anything less than full-bore socialism at this point.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:33 PM (BBWjt)

106 Hillary is to politics as Janice Joplin was to rock and roll... ugly stars who couldn't get laid and made it big basedsolely on the merits ofbeing a woman.

Janice could sing the blues, oh yes, she could.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 27, 2013 10:33 PM (QupBk)

107 No. He won't sell us out for Hillary. Absolutely not. Yet, if he's going to try and be clever, then he needs to do a better job of it.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:32 PM (piMMO)
---

Yeah, I guess we really are just bad at that.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:33 PM (Y5I9o)

108 I have a confession to make. I am now seeing Manti Ta'o's girlfriend.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 27, 2013 10:33 PM (jucos)

109 Thus far, I haven't seen a single episode where the folks on the the end of the line didn't turn out to be full of shit.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:29 PM (piMMO)

Yeah, I saw an episode of that show. There are some disturbing and disturbed people out there.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 10:34 PM (jp2Ur)

110 Janice could sing the blues, oh yes, she could.

****

I like her music.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:34 PM (piMMO)

111 >No, seriously. What is Hillary going to do between 2012 and now to keep herself relevant to be able to win the nomination?

MSNBC

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:34 PM (8sCoq)

112 Obama knows Obamacare is fucked. He has not even started half the so called state exchanges. He wants it to crash so he can impose what he really wants, single payer state health care. This is a planned crash by the commies.


I suspect next year will be TOTAL chaos in health industry. It is going to be grid lock and Obama plans to impose "Emergency" acts to "solve" the problem.


Figure this out.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:34 PM (wR+pz)

113 Madonna was moderately attractive when she was young, but nothing I would get excited about. So I never understood those few guys I knew back than who had a thing for her. Plus, she can't sing. You have never - and I mean never - heard her singing voice. It has always been digital filters singing under the name Madonna.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 27, 2013 10:35 PM (nZvGM)

114 Yeah, I guess we really are just bad at that.


***

I guess we should be proud that we are so much less rehearsed at deception than the Dems.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:35 PM (piMMO)

Posted by: MikeB at January 27, 2013 10:35 PM (gLAk8)

116 108
I have a confession to make. I am now seeing Manti Ta'o's girlfriend.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 27, 2013 10:33 PM (jucos)


NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:35 PM (BBWjt)

117 You mean THIS drinking problem?

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/161552/

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:32 PM (Y5I9o)


No, this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4plPGRG8o

Posted by: Ted Striker at January 27, 2013 10:36 PM (Vk2pI)

118
Gee, I thought Cory Booker was just a regular guy. I mean he has a good relationship with Chris Christy. /sarc off

Okay then, we are assuming that we will still have a country in 2016, right?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 27, 2013 10:36 PM (Md8Uo)

119 I have a confession to make. I am now seeing Manti Ta'o's girlfriend.

What!?! She two timing me!

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 27, 2013 10:36 PM (QupBk)

120 Her job for the next fours years is to run for
President. She'll go on the speaking circuit, head a bullshit
foundation or two, go on another "listening tour", etc.



She does not have to have "a job".

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 10:31 PM (jp2Ur)
Exactly.1 year to write her momoir1 year to line up her team, get a face lift and a cankle reductionand then 2 years to campaign lock up the nomination and pray that Obama doesnt fuck it up so bad that no democrat ever gets elected again....but she is not factoring in just how fucking stupid and clueless barack actually is.All its going to take is for egypt / iran to nuke isreal. Once the jews turn on Obama, he can kiss hollywood goodbye...and once hollywood goes, he is fucked.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:36 PM (+OTLF)

121 41
Aside from Biden and Hillary, who else do they have that might run?

-----------

Michelle Obama, of course.

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 27, 2013 10:36 PM (1c58W)

122 75
Jones, I think I stopped in Grand Junction once, on one of my roadtrip
adventures, it seemed more hippified that I would have expected


Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:25 PM (BBWjt)


IIRC, my dad was born in Montrose, and lived in Delta until he decamped to college in LA.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2013 10:36 PM (kaalw)

123
Well I only watched 2 episodes, enough to get the idea of the show, and yeah both ended badly. The worst was the guy who thought he was talking with a young hot white blonde woman online for like 2 years, and it turns out it was an African American gay guy instead.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:37 PM (RZ8pf)

124 Gee, I thought Cory Booker was just a regular guy. I mean he has a good relationship with Chris Christy. /sarc off

****

Yeah. Well, since he's not running for Gov, I would expect Christie to back his Senate candidacy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:37 PM (piMMO)

125 Well I only watched 2 episodes, enough to get the idea of the show, and yeah both ended badly. The worst was the guy who thought he was talking with a young hot white blonde woman online for like 2 years, and it turns out it was an African American gay guy instead.

****

That was the first shoe I saw. Just awful!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:37 PM (piMMO)

126 Dang. Obamacare is truly the Trojan Horse for single payer health care.

I still think people should crash the system. Then at least the choice would be stark.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 27, 2013 10:38 PM (FsUAO)

127 If someone makes an issue of alcoholism, Hilary will just run as the next Winston Churchill.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 27, 2013 10:38 PM (nZvGM)

128 Okay then, we are assuming that we will still have a country in 2016, right?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 27, 2013 10:36 PM (Md8Uo)


Sí, Señor

Posted by: El Presidente de Mexico at January 27, 2013 10:38 PM (Vk2pI)

129 113
Madonna was moderately attractive when she was young, but nothing I
would get excited about. So I never understood those few guys I knew
back than who had a thing for her. Plus, she can't sing. You have never -
and I mean never - heard her singing voice. It has always been digital
filters singing under the name Madonna.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 27, 2013 10:35 PM (nZvGM)
Those guys who had a thing for her were closeted homosexuals.They didnt really want to bang her, they wanted to queen out singing along with her in their cars and dance to her music at home in their undewear, but since they were on the down low, they explained having her cds as yeah man she is hot and i want to bone her.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:38 PM (+OTLF)

130 112 Obama knows Obamacare is fucked. He has not even started half the so called state exchanges. He wants it to crash so he can impose what he really wants, single payer state health care. This is a planned crash by the commies.
I suspect next year will be TOTAL chaos in health industry. It is going to be grid lock and Obama plans to impose "Emergency" acts to "solve" the problem.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:34 PM (wR+pz)\
---

This is the problem with starting LIB too early.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:39 PM (Y5I9o)

131
I'm just trying to imagine what America is going to look like in 2016. I just keep coming up with 'Scary...'

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 27, 2013 10:39 PM (AC0lD)

132 Hey hey. Made the 50 mile commute to work thru the ice storm. God bless 4WD.

Posted by: zeera at January 27, 2013 10:39 PM (3dXwx)

133 Aside from Biden and Hillary, who else do they have that might run?

***

Mentioned above:

Cory Booker

Gavin Newsome

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:39 PM (piMMO)

134 Hillary is damaged goods. The liberal fever swamps are trying desperately to rehab her but they have their work cut out for them. After seeing the SCOAMF get re-elected nothing is off the table but this - 4 years from now how will the economy and this country look? People think they are hurting now are in for a world of pain. The swamps in our inner cities will be out and out battle zones. I do think Biden will run. He feels empowered and he is too stupid to know how much of a court jester he really is.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 10:39 PM (EAgmr)

135 I like western CO- I really dig the high desert landscapes, there's great motorcycle riding out there, and I would love to get away from the Front Range cities

I agree. Most of the western slope has been taken over by yuppies. I go to Eagle every year. Used to be a sleepy little town, now you can't buy an outhouse for less than $300k. Paonia used to be a great town, lower altitude. Havent veen there for years.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 10:40 PM (JgkPs)

136 Those guys who had a thing for her were closeted homosexuals.They didnt really want to bang her, they wanted to queen out singing along with her in their cars and dance to her music at home in their undewear, but since they were on the down low, they explained having her cds as yeah man she is hot and i want to bone her.

***

They are the same guys who are into Liza, Bette, and Cher.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:40 PM (piMMO)

137 112 Obama knows Obamacare is fucked. He has not even started half the so called state exchanges. He wants it to crash so he can impose what he really wants, single payer state health care. This is a planned crash by the commies.I suspect next year will be TOTAL chaos in health industry. It is going to be grid lock and Obama plans to impose "Emergency" acts to "solve" the problem.Figure this out.

The turds who voted for Obama will call it something other than Obamacare - affordable something or other- because the media will instruct them to. Can't attatch the savior's name to a dud, you see. Because of Republican obstruction and racism, obviously. Idiots.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:40 PM (7xPCu)

138 PGiS, so it's like the online dating version of "Cheaters".

ugh that sucks

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:41 PM (BBWjt)

139 Again, I've mentioned it before, but if you aren't following Booker on twitter, you should be.

Love him or hate him, he is shrewd, shrewd, shrewd.

He his managing his image and his base like I've never seen before.

It's damn impressive to watch.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:41 PM (piMMO)

140 Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:37 PM (RZ8pf)Do these people not Skype with video? Until then, they're all African-American gay guys until proven otherwise...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 27, 2013 10:41 PM (AC0lD)

141 113
Madonna was moderately attractive when she was young, but nothing I would get excited about.


Guys, she is strange as shit, but she would fuck your brains out.

I'd be willing to give her all five three minutes I have.

Let me take that pill first, OK honey?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:41 PM (wR+pz)

142 134
Hillary is damaged goods. The liberal fever swamps are trying
desperately to rehab her but they have their work cut out for them.
After seeing the SCOAMF get re-elected nothing is off the table but this
- 4 years from now how will the economy and this country look? People
think they are hurting now are in for a world of pain. The swamps in our
inner cities will be out and out battle zones. I do think Biden will
run. He feels empowered and he is too stupid to know how much of a court
jester he really is.


Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 10:39 PM (EAgmr)
Dont worry.No matter how bad the economy is, we will find some ASSHOLE like Tod Akin to say something stupid about rape and vaginas so that the press can shift the focus to war on woman and mobilize the democrat base of ugly fat single chicks who couldnt get raped to save their lives to run to the polls and make sure the dems win. Have faith.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:42 PM (+OTLF)

143 104
That
cunt doesnt have a chance in hell of beating hillary.On top of that he
only experience is calling up the taxi company to shuttle poor patients
from the emergency room of her expensive hospital to an inner city
butcher shop. What else has she done besides dismember lobster at a
breakneck pace?


Do you really think the Democrats wouldn't elect someone with no experience? Where have you been since '08?

She has no experience at anything and she doesnt have the
charisma of Barack Jesus christo Obama.


but but but the toned arms!

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM (1c58W)

144 41 Aside from Biden and Hillary, who else do they have that might run?

Obama himself.

Aren't we already being told by the media that the Constitution is obsolete?

If he gets another Supreme Court Justice between now and then, who exactly is going to stop him if he does run for a third term?

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM (sdi6R)

145 zeera, glad you are safe, it sucks driving in an ice storm!

for that, you deserve a kitteh

http://tinyurl.com/bxtqafg

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM (BBWjt)

146 135 I like western CO- I really dig the high desert landscapes, there's great motorcycle riding out there, and I would love to get away from the Front Range cities I agree. Most of the western slope has been taken over by yuppies. I go to Eagle every year. Used to be a sleepy little town, now you can't buy an outhouse for less than $300k. Paonia used to be a great town, lower altitude. Havent veen there for years.
Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 10:40 PM (JgkPs)

Last time I was thataway, it looked to me like the slope was taken over by drill rigs. Housing prices in Rifle were at least as much as Denver. Coincidence?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM (7xPCu)

147 The Moo will not run. I think she hates D.C.

I think she hates people.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:44 PM (piMMO)

148 I DVDed 24hrs at Daytona. It was pretty good if you like that kind of racing.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 10:44 PM (JgkPs)

149 Well apparently there's always some excuse, like their dad took away their cell phone and their webcam is broken, stuff like that. What really got me about the guy and the gay man was the guy was really good looking and outgoing and popular and you would think he would have had no problem meeting a girl in the real world, yet he ignored the opportunities to spend 2 years chatting with the online "chick"

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:45 PM (RZ8pf)

150 Mark Warner, Governor with a good record who can self fund
Andy Cuomo, DOA
A Villazosa, can't have an identity party without some color
HRC, because its her turn
Dark horse, that new D girl from NDakota

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2013 10:45 PM (uRbX6)

151 yes, oil and gas exploration has stepped up in western CO

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:45 PM (8sCoq)

152 Any chance CBS deliberately misleads with this headline?

Israel warns of possible pre-emptive chemical weapons strike in Syria

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:46 PM (piMMO)

153 Madonna pushed the revealing clothes and sexual gyration in the early 80s. Young hetro men pay attention to that no matter the style.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 27, 2013 10:46 PM (qo244)

154 108 I have a confession to make. I am now seeing Manti Ta'o's girlfriend.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 27, 2013 10:33 PM (jucos)

*******

I thought she died of leukemia or intestinal parasites or something.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 10:46 PM (1OZSU)

155 @135

I don't know the CO terms, but I go to Vail every year. This year in the fall I went to the Black River Canyon to fly fish. The stuff on the other side of Aspen is all farms and dry as shit. People over there seems Republican and nice. Went by a coal mine. Had signs coal miners for mitt!

CO is strange. Pueblo is dirt bag to me. CO Springs is sort of cool. Denver? What can you say.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:46 PM (wR+pz)

156
I was out in Montrose the summer of 2011 for the first time in 19 years and could not believe how much it had grown. I think it's the California influence.

I still like Gunnison, it doesn't see to have changed too much. It gets freakin' cold there during the winter but I would move there in a heartbeat if I could find a job out there.
I like Cortez, because of the climate. My wife has allergies and when we were out there they completely cleared up . She was SOOOO happy. It's very dry and arid
\
Durango is another town that has grown a lot. I think it got Californicated, too.

My favorite little town was always Ouray. It's gotten a little more built up, but still seems kinda folksy when it isn't the weekend and full of folks from the Front Range.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 27, 2013 10:46 PM (Md8Uo)

157 Obama is a lazy POS, but he at least has the discipline to get out on the campaign trail day after day, albeit an hour or two late to every stop. I don't see Michelle putting in even that level of effort when she can just show up every once in awhile to collect 250K per speech.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (nZvGM)

158 but but but the toned arms!
Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM (1c58W)

new meme: Cankles and pantsuits are sexy!

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (7xPCu)

159 Do you really think the Democrats wouldn't elect someone with no experience? Where have you been since '08?

She has no experience at anything and she doesnt have the

charisma of Barack Jesus christo Obama.

but but but the toned arms!



Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM (1c58W)

You are forgetting that Barack Obama was a state senetor and then a us senator.Sure he didnt do shit at either job but run for the next office and coordinate kick back deals for him and bloghairavitch with his buddy rezko, but he coudl atleast claim he was a senator.Moochelle, whats her claim? I got Wigs a fat ass and can suck the meat out of a 12 pound lobster in 10 seconds flat?On the other hand.After 4 miserable years of that mother fucking kenyan cock sucker destroying this country....the fact that he actually go reelected, you may be right....they could nominate a fucking aborted fetus and win the way the control the messaging system.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (+OTLF)

160

Plenty of good spots on the western slope to live. The oil boomstuff is easy to avoid.

Posted by: Meremortal, Watching It Burn at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (1Y+hH)

161 Well apparently there's always some excuse, like their dad took away their cell phone and their webcam is broken, stuff like that. What really got me about the guy and the gay man was the guy was really good looking and outgoing and popular and you would think he would have had no problem meeting a girl in the real world, yet he ignored the opportunities to spend 2 years chatting with the online "chick"

***

A handsome young lacrosse player at that.

Really disturbing to think of how many times he jacked it to her sexting.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (piMMO)

162 157 Obama is a lazy POS, but he at least has the discipline to get out on the campaign trail day after day, albeit an hour or two late to every stop. I don't see Michelle putting in even that level of effort when she can just show up every once in awhile to collect 250K per speech.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (nZvGM)

Shit, you'd think she was being paid by the calorie.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (7xPCu)

163 It's Colorado- there's hippies and freaks everywhere

The Carbondale Mountain Fair is always fun because it's this weird mix of old hippies, ranching families, and illegal Mexicans. Good times.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 10:48 PM (hpDVh)

164 Out there somewhere is the next Obama. He or she is a low-level politician who is being scouted by the Democrat power brokers.

The Democrats will jilt Hillary again for their next dreamy dreamboat.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 10:48 PM (jp2Ur)

165 147 The Moo will not run. I think she hates D.C.



I think she hates people.


---------

But if she doesn't run, she has to start paying for her own vacations.

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 27, 2013 10:48 PM (1c58W)

166 new meme: Cankles and pantsuits are sexy!


****

Naturalizer shoes and St. John's Bay in every closet!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:48 PM (piMMO)

167 Housing prices in Rifle were at least as much as Denver. Coincidence?
Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM (7xPCu)


I think Rifle is more in the desert west of CO. Never been there. Steamboat was a nice place years ago. Probably a yuppie haven by now.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 10:48 PM (JgkPs)

168 NDH, I thought it was more disturbing to think of the gay guy jacking it to their sexting, because the other guy didn't know the truth and was sending the "chick" pix of his penis and stuff.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 27, 2013 10:49 PM (RZ8pf)

169 Last time I was thataway, it looked to me like the slope was taken over by drill rigs. Housing prices in Rifle were at least as much as Denver. Coincidence?
Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM (7xPCu)

--------------

151 yes, oil and gas exploration has stepped up in western CO
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:45 PM (8sCoq)

********

A lot of those rigs are idle. There's some nat gas being produced, but overall the energy sector has been down over here the last couple years. We watch apartment occupancy rates and rental prices- both are down. Hard to tell if it'll pick up anytime soon.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 10:49 PM (1OZSU)

170 But if she doesn't run, she has to start paying for her own vacations.

***

Speaking fees, society events, etc... she'll stay plenty busy and won't pay for any of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:49 PM (piMMO)

171 I agree. Most of the western slope has been taken
over by yuppies. I go to Eagle every year. Used to be a sleepy little
town, now you can't buy an outhouse for less than $300k. Paonia used to
be a great town, lower altitude. Havent veen there for years.

Posted by: Ronster

Paonia is still small and is the western slope's pot producing mecca. A friend of mine hunts in that area and told me that he always carries firearms as you never want to get in between a Paonian and their weed production.

I came from Los Angeles and then NY so housing prices are all relative. You can buy a whole lot of house here in Junction for $200,000. I couldn't afford a drive way in California right now unless it was in some shitty neighborhood.

There are a whole lot of cowboys and girls here that will not take kindly to any gun grab. Liberals are minimal here and largely ignored.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 10:49 PM (EAgmr)

172 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:41 PM (piMMO)

NDH, what do you mean?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:49 PM (BBWjt)

173 Bookers only appeal?

He's Black and the get out the Black vote is all the Democrats have to keep them in office.

Because of that, he will have a good shot.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:50 PM (wR+pz)

174 Ubiquitous? Never hear of him.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson's 225 posts per day at January 27, 2013 10:50 PM (vbh31)

175 NDH, I thought it was more disturbing to think of the gay guy jacking it to their sexting, because the other guy didn't know the truth and was sending the "chick" pix of his penis and stuff.

***

Eew Eww! EEWW!

That IS worse!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:50 PM (piMMO)

176 101
@91:



You mean THIS drinking problem?



http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/161552/

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 10:32 PM (Y5I9o)

This one:
http://tinyurl.com/a9w7tf5

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 27, 2013 10:50 PM (Zd/NW)

177 161 yet he ignored the opportunities to spend 2 years chatting with the online "chick"

***

Really disturbing to think of how many times he jacked it to her sexting.Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (piMMO)The children are our future....Where's the exit...?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 27, 2013 10:51 PM (AC0lD)

178 he gets another Supreme Court Justice between now and then, who exactly is going to stop him if he does run for a third term?



This worries me more than anything. It may be the actual demise of our Country.

Posted by: Infidel at January 27, 2013 10:51 PM (bzOLE)

179 151 yes, oil and gas exploration has stepped up in western CO
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:45 PM (8sCoq)

Stepped up? More like going gangbusters. Every single hotel room for miles in any direction was booked for months to house oil workers. But then again, it's not like Rifle was a destination for anybody except occasional elk hunters, so not a whole lot of rooms to start with.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:51 PM (7xPCu)

180 Shit, you'd think she was being paid by the calorie.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:47 PM (7xPCu)

That gets a LOL

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 10:52 PM (BBWjt)

181 [1605 comments] 'sven10077' [225.31 posts/day]

Nobody "needs" to... Come to think of it, want to write a gun control bill for me? Three thousand pages to go!

Posted by: Barky McFuckstick at January 27, 2013 10:52 PM (FcR7P)

182 Madonna was moderately attractive when she was young, but nothing I
would getexcited about. So I never understood those few guys I knew
back than who had a thing for her. Plus, she can't sing. You have never -
and I mean never - heard her singing voice. It has always been digital
filters singing under the name Madonna.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 27, 2013 10:35 PM (nZvGM)
Those guys who had a thing for her were closeted homosexuals.They didnt really want to bang her, they wanted to queen out singing along with her in their cars and dance to her music at home in their undewear, but since they were on the down low, they explained having her cds as yeah man she is hot and i want to bone her.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 10:38 PM (+OTLF)


It was more than that. A large amount of people in the 80s thought Madonna was hot. No, I wasn't one of them, but it was way too many people to say they were just gay.

The reasons were:

1. It was the 80s. Different standards. Big hair and a lot of make up were considered sexy back then. She wouldn't be the only women from back then who was considered hot that was no big deal today.

2. She advertized that she was hot. She was considered cool and popular. Nobody was going to say "hey, she isn't really that hot."

3. She banged anything that moved. People confused this with being hot.

Posted by: AD at January 27, 2013 10:52 PM (bcLkZ)

183 Obama himself.

Aren't we already being told by the media that the Constitution is obsolete?

If he gets another Supreme Court Justice between now and then, who exactly is going to stop him if he does run for a third term?

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2013 10:43 PM


He may not need another SCOTUS Justice, the wheels are already turning on repealing the 22nd Amendment: http://supplysidepolitics.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-odds-are-short.html

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2013 10:52 PM (JMmQ9)

184 AND you haven't really lived unless/until you ride a motorcycle from Durango to Ouray

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:53 PM (8sCoq)

185 But if she doesn't run, she has to start paying for her own vacations.
Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 27, 2013 10:48 PM (1c58W)

Event Organizer: Michelle, please let us pay for your room and meals.

Michelle: Do you see me reaching for my purse?

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 27, 2013 10:53 PM (nZvGM)

186
Well, yeah Rifle, but what about....Parachute? Huh?

I had a friend that was out there in 1982 working for Occidental on a shale oil retort. GJ was so much smaller then, it's just kinda weird.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 27, 2013 10:54 PM (Md8Uo)

187 My favorite little town was always Ouray. It's
gotten a little more built up, but still seems kinda folksy when it
isn't the weekend and full of folks from the Front Range.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch


I forgot to mention Ouray. Our little Switzerland. It is awesome and nearby is Orvis if your feeling saucy and want to do some nude mineral pool soaking.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 10:54 PM (EAgmr)

188 Four years for Hillary to become the outsider. The wronged woman who tried to be loyal to TFG. But could not stand it. Which is what caused her lapse into alcoholism and the accident. After almost three years she can emerge as cured, rested, and willing to lead America out of the disaster TFG has caused.

That is how Hillary will run in 2016.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2013 10:54 PM (PzMYS)

189 @176

This functional alcoholic shit is just that, shit. People can drink and work. The drink Nazi's and the social workers want to classify anyone who drinks more that three drinks a day as an alcoholic.

That would mean most every fucking worker at US Steel is an alcoholic. Every fucking British naval officer, and the list goes on.

They people have a reason for these classifications, they get paid to "help".

Total fucking bull shit. I need a drink.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (wR+pz)

190 NDH, what do you mean?

***

For example, during Sandy, he used twitter to get the names and addresses of elderly residents and personally dropped in to check on them and then reported back, via twitter, the condition of their loved ones.

He sends inspirational messages regularly, and responds frequently to tweets.

He has also made a vid with Christie, so appears funny and cordial.

He has had a couple of different superman types of events such as rushing into accident scenes.

Generally speaking, he is VERY engaged and is building goodwill like no other pol on twitter.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (piMMO)

191 I think Rifle is more in the desert west of CO. Never been there. Steamboat was a nice place years ago. Probably a yuppie haven by now.
Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 10:48 PM (JgkPs)

Well, if Colorado is going to be Californicated, I'll take the yuppies over the bums. They just need a little training.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (7xPCu)

192
Hey, it's the ONT so I can rant about whatever the hell I feel like, right? So here goes, and don't get too offended, but I've been pissed at "good conservatives" what never have examined their own belief systems for inconsistencies for agood long time. And I use cigarettes and smoking as my example.
I'm no spring chicken, so I've been there every step of the way on the anti-smoking crusade, and it's classic Alinsky. Isolate, then ridicule, then demonise.And "good conservatives" fell for the whole thing, one step at a time. I remember being able to smoke any damn place I wanted to, even places where I though it would be stupid to do, like elevators (old ones still have ashtrays built into the cabin) and clothing departments.
Then it started. First by isolating, ridiculing, and demonizing the product, cigarettes. Then asking for "common sense regulations". Nobody objected. Next by isolating, ridiculing, and demonizing the manfacturers for the products. Following success in that, who could object to punishing the companies for making a legal product and profitting from it. Lastly, make smokers themselves into the "other". All along, I've watched non-smoking conservatives unthinkingly get themselves puffed up with indignation over having to share air-space with the likes of me. To the point where idiot "conservatives" will bring their children into a PUB and grille which is non-smoking by mandate, ask to sit on the patio (where smokers have been relegated to), and then give me the stink-eye because they chose to sit down wind from me. Waving their hands in front of their precious little ones faces in some overly melodramatic way toindicate to me their disdain.
All these years, I've been saying it wouldn't stop with cigarettes, because it is a process, not unique to smoking, but of social control. BAHG, FU, you're a smoker, of course you say thaaaat!
Lets move this process along to guns now. First, demonize the product. Check. Now let's demonize the manufacturers. Check. Now lets dehumanize and "other" the owners of guns. Check.
Welcome to the party, pals!

Posted by: OneEuedJack at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (ORvjs)

193 184 AND you haven't really lived unless/until you ride a motorcycle from Durango to Ouray
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:53 PM (8sCoq)

*******

I drive Red Mountain Pass every couple months for work. Now that is some butt clenching, white knuckle, "holy S**t" fun right there!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (1OZSU)

194 You'll get single payer and like it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 27, 2013 10:56 PM (Cnqmv)

195 I guess it's ok for me to post up my blog post today. I'm trying to find a way to destroy the left by removing it's membership via the mechanism of ridiculing and/or deconstructing why you would want to be a leftist in the first place. These are basically the same exercises I went through on my journey to finding my political alignment:

If You Love Someone, Control Them Without Mercy

Posted by: The Liberty Dude at January 27, 2013 10:56 PM (iAWQF)

196 To move this thread from skanky to sexy.

http://tinyurl.com/b3cz57j

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 27, 2013 10:58 PM (qo244)

197 TFG, "Single payer or bust!"

Reality, "Single payer and bust!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2013 10:58 PM (PzMYS)

198 Cheri. You can buy a whole lot of house here in Junction for $200,000

That doesn't sound too bad price wise.. I used to ride my dirt bike on the Book Cliffs? Is that what they are called? I can't remember.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 10:59 PM (JgkPs)

199

My Velveeta won't ignite.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 10:59 PM (wUD5d)

200 You know you can not drink all day, unless you start at breakfast.



http://tinyurl.com/blxzmq9

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:59 PM (wR+pz)

201 AND you haven't really lived unless/until you ride a motorcycle from Durango to Ouray

I drove El Paso to Carbondale by way of Durango once. Once. 300 foot drops on one side and motorcycle gangs on the other do not a pleasant trip make.

And housing in Rifle isn't just being driven up by the energy boom, it's also by the fact that it is becoming a freaking bedroom community for Glenwood, Carbondale and up valley.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 10:59 PM (hpDVh)

202
Jones in CO
The Million Dollar Highway. Yup, that is God's country. It's one of the most beautiful drives in the West. Drove it in the snow in the summer of 2011 - a very light snow in June.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 27, 2013 10:59 PM (Md8Uo)

203 AND you haven't really lived unless/until you ride a motorcycle from Durango to Ouray


Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:53 PM



I once sat on the back of a motorcycle from Durango to Silverton and back thirty plus years ago. The scenery is spectacular. Got caught in a June downpour, so we stopped on a restaurant's porch. The people who owned it lived in the basement and they came out and unlocked their station wagon and gave us blankets so we could sleep there.

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2013 11:00 PM (bAGA/)

204 My daughter's boyfriend works on the rigs. Where does he mostly work? Wyoming for 3 weeks at a time.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:00 PM (EAgmr)

205 For example, during Sandy, he used twitter to get the names and addresses of elderly residents and personally dropped in to check on them and then reported back, via twitter, the condition of their loved ones.

He sends inspirational messages regularly, and responds frequently to tweets.

He has also made a vid with Christie, so appears funny and cordial.

He has had a couple of different superman types of events such as rushing into accident scenes.

Generally speaking, he is VERY engaged and is building goodwill like no other pol on twitter.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (piMMO)
-----
Just what we need: OUr society run by fucking gladhandlers.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 11:00 PM (Y5I9o)

206 I drive Red Mountain Pass every couple months for
work. Now that is some butt clenching, white knuckle, "holy S**t" fun
right there!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (1OZSU)

Fuckin A- on a motorcycle, there are definitely parts of the ride where you say to yourself 'don't look down'

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:00 PM (8sCoq)

207 The pilot heeds bitchin' Betty if he wants to live.

Posted by: PULL UP PULL-UP PULL UP at January 27, 2013 11:00 PM (LYwCh)

208 The Siege of Merinma article is kind of terrifying to read. What's worse: pure evil or pure incompetence out of the White House? (I know, I know. Why choose?)

Posted by: t-bird at January 27, 2013 11:00 PM (FcR7P)

209 Gunnison, huh, I think I applied for a job there. Seems like a nice place but yeah, kinda chilly.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:01 PM (BBWjt)

210 Guy I know used to see Madonna back in her stripping days in Detroit.

He described her in three words:

BIG ITALIAN BUSHH

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 27, 2013 11:01 PM (ifYRI)

211 Dont worry.No matter how bad the economy is, we will find some ASSHOLE like Tod Akin to say something stupid about rape and vaginas so that the press can shift the focus to war on woman and mobilize the democrat base of ugly fat single chicks who couldnt get raped to save their lives to run to the polls and make sure the dems win. Have faith.

Even if the nominee can manage not to say anything remarkably stupid, it won't matter. Romney wanted to outlaw tampons, remember? MFM is gonna fuck us.

Posted by: Kalneva at January 27, 2013 11:01 PM (S+/pH)

212 Okay, look, I've become as depressed as a bunch of you have, but I enough faith to still say this:

Michelle doesn't win in 2016. Michelle doesn't run in 2016. Cool down. That does not and will not happen. Why? Because she's the first lady with zero experience. And, yes, for once that's enough of a reason.

She also has been hesitant about Obama's own political career. Do you honestly imagine her wanting to take the role of President day in and day out?

Michelle doesn't run in the next Presidential election. Chill.

Posted by: AD at January 27, 2013 11:01 PM (bcLkZ)

213 Well, if Colorado is going to be Californicated, I'll take the yuppies over the bums. They just need a little training.

The ones that don't learn get weeded out by winter driving over the mountains

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:02 PM (hpDVh)

214 AND you haven't really lived unless/until you ride a motorcycle from Durango to Ouray Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 10:53 PM (8sCoq)

I have rode my dirt bike from Ouray to Telluride. If you go from Telluride to Ouray it is very difficult. More than I could handle.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 11:02 PM (JgkPs)

215 Posted by: OneEuedJack at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (ORvjs)

****

I am not a smoker and never have been but when the 'no smoking in bars/restaurants' bill popped up on the FL ballot, I voted against it. I was shocked at how many "conservatives" voted for it.

I'll admit to enjoying being in restaurants where there is no smoking now but, frankly, I always had that choice.

It should never be up to me to tell a proprietor just how the hell he should run his business.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:02 PM (piMMO)

216 204
My daughter's boyfriend works on the rigs. Where does he mostly work? Wyoming for 3 weeks at a time.


Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:00 PM (EAgmr)

huh, I know a guy who also works on the rigs in Wyoming, does water analysis for them. former student of mine. wonder if we have some RL connection. that would be weird.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:02 PM (BBWjt)

217 Four years for Hillary to become the outsider. The wronged woman who tried to be loyal to TFG. But could not stand it. Which is what caused her lapse into alcoholism and the accident. After almost three years she can emerge as cured, rested, and willing to lead America out of the disaster TFG has caused.

That is how Hillary will run in 2016.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2013 10:54 PM (PzMYS)


I've already lined her up for late 2015!

Posted by: Oprah at January 27, 2013 11:02 PM (Vk2pI)

218 SVEN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpi0GWS5rSg

ZOMBIE APACOLYPSE LOADOUT!


Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 11:02 PM (+OTLF)

219 Just what we need: OUr society run by fucking gladhandlers.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 27, 2013 11:00 PM (Y5I9o)

You say that like it's a bad thing. If he getting BJ from the help, I'll endorse him, for a name or two.

Posted by: Ole Bill Clinton at January 27, 2013 11:03 PM (wR+pz)

220 195 I guess it's ok for me to post up my blog post today. I'm trying to find a way to destroy the left by removing it's membership via the mechanism of ridiculing and/or deconstructing why you would want to be a leftist in the first place. These are basically the same exercises I went through on my journey to finding my political alignment:If You Love Someone, Control Them Without Mercy
Posted by: The Liberty Dude at January 27, 2013 10:56 PM (iAWQF)

Well, if you're trying to appeal to a liberal's sense of shame, best of luck to you...their brains are lacking that component. They do respond to ridicule, at least to some degree, but the way to control them is to distract them with shiny objects,then beat them senseless and reprogram them.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:03 PM (7xPCu)

221 Just what we need: OUr society run by fucking gladhandlers.

***

I agree but people are eating that shit by the shovelful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:03 PM (piMMO)

222 192 OneEyedJack

Yep. Every word of it.

Some of us smokers have been predicting this all along.

"First they came for the smokers, but I was not a smoker, so I said nothing..."

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2013 11:03 PM (sdi6R)

223 I do think it will come down to Biden vs. Booker or Cuomo

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:04 PM (BBWjt)

224 Generally speaking, he is VERY engaged and is building goodwill like no other pol on twitter.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (piMMO)


THAT is why he is so dangerous. He needs to be knocked down a peg or two while we can still knock him down!

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2013 11:04 PM (Vk2pI)

225 I'm driving the damned bus as fast as I can. Pedal to the metal.

Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at January 27, 2013 11:04 PM (vbh31)

226 I-70 corridor west of Glenwood Springs, quick reference guide.

Rifle = part ranching community, more recently services for the oil shale district

Parachute = Bedroom community, half retirees, half oil field workers

Debeque = Truck stop, not much else

Palisade = Fruit orchards, wineries (my dad used to raise apples out there)

Grand Junction= the junction of the Gunnison River and Grand River (aka the Colorado River). Natural crossroads for commerce on the E-W route from Denver to points west. Tourism, agriculture, agri-tourism (wine), not so much of a destination, more of a gateway.

Fruita = place I was born, mountain biking, dinosaur fossils

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:04 PM (1OZSU)

227 Good evening rons. Madonna? She has always been slutty. I happen to like slutty.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:04 PM (l86i3)

228 Jones in CO = a large group of my friends ride and have a ball every weekend riding. They are trying to get me on board but I'm too much of a wuss. I don't ski, hunt, camp, fish, hike, ride or any of the outdoorsy things. You really need to enjoy the outdoors to be happy here so I am screwed. If you move here let me know as I know a great group of folks that you could ride with. I do have a job here which is why I moved here. I am very grateful for that.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:05 PM (EAgmr)

229
I agree but people are eating that shit by the shovelful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:03 PM (piMMO)

And it's nothing but shit.
So why isn't our team putting out some shit of their own?
THAT'S the big problem.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:05 PM (BBWjt)

230

"I am not a smoker and never have been but when the 'no smoking in
bars/restaurants' bill popped up on the FL ballot, I voted against it. I
was shocked at how many "conservatives" voted for it."


Only Nixon could go to China.
Only Rubio could open the border.
Only Christie could take the guns.
Only Ryan could give you single payer.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:05 PM (wUD5d)

231 Gunnison, huh, I think I applied for a job there. Seems like a nice place but yeah, kinda chilly.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:01 PM (BBWjt)


Pretty small town. What were you applying for there?

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 11:06 PM (JgkPs)

232 Only Nixon could go to China.
Only Rubio could open the border.
Only Christie could take the guns.
Only Ryan could give you single payer.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:05 PM (wUD5d)

Only you can prevent forrest fires.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:06 PM (l86i3)

233 you know, your description of CO makes me want to drive out that way again in the summertime

that might be fun, maybe a summertime colorado moron meetup or something

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (BBWjt)

234 >Fruita = place I was born, mountain biking, dinosaur fossils



there is a BBQ joint behind the Fruita Super 8 that has the finest onion rings in all of Christendom

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (8sCoq)

235 I hopefully had my last cigarette tonight. As I know that I'm a wuss who will use yet another crisis at work as an excuse to fall off of the wagon again, I'm taking Chantix. Yeah, yeah, crutch, whatever.

It is my hope that, as a former smoker, I won't morph into the jackass described by OneEuedJack @192. Given my libertarian tendencies, I sincerely doubt I will. I'm just tired of smoking and, in addition, it will make me happy to know that I've cut off a source of revenue for the FSA.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (7xeJQ)

236 And it's nothing but shit.
So why isn't our team putting out some shit of their own?
THAT'S the big problem.

****

Rand is the closest we have to someone who is truly engaged with the voters.

I receive emails from his office nearly every day.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (piMMO)

237 But if they get rid of all the cats we'll have to kill the birds ourselves.

Posted by: Vermin at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (VWrEG)

238
Pretty small town. What were you applying for there?

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 11:06 PM (JgkPs)

there's a college there

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (BBWjt)

239 #71

Not in that movie, just on the soundtrack.

Posted by: epobirs at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (kcfmt)

240 >that might be fun, maybe a summertime colorado moron meetup or something


Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (BBWjt)

I'm in, but it's gotta be west of The Divide!

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:08 PM (8sCoq)

241
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (7xeJQ)

good luck, we are pulling for you

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:08 PM (BBWjt)

242

Only you can prevent forrest fires.

They call 'em wildfires nowadays.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:08 PM (wUD5d)

243 Jones, sure, maybe Grand Junction or something

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:08 PM (BBWjt)

244 That was the first shoe I saw. Just awful!
Was it a really, really big shoe?

Posted by: zombie ed sullivan at January 27, 2013 11:09 PM (ORGYc)

245 it just seems like our team is stuck in the past. and that is just sad.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:09 PM (BBWjt)

246 Portlandia.

Armisen is a liberal twat but man this show makes serious fun of libtard a.

Posted by: Golan Globus at January 27, 2013 11:09 PM (/1U3u)

247 Only you can prevent forrest fires.

They call 'em wildfires nowadays.

***

As opposed to the tame fires that s frequently pop up there.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:09 PM (piMMO)

248 Was it a really, really big shoe?


***

Yes it was!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (piMMO)

249 There's a college in Gunnison. Mesa University or something like that. Nice place. I could think of a lot worse places to live out your life.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (Md8Uo)

250 Not that into kittehs (even tho we have one) but I appreciate the thought CJ.

Posted by: zeera at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (3dXwx)

251 huh, I know a guy who also works on the rigs in
Wyoming, does water analysis for them. former student of mine. wonder if
we have some RL connection. that would be weird.


Posted by: chemjeff

No, her boyfriend is just a regular rig worker and I'm pretty sure could never pass one of your courses!

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (EAgmr)

252 I'm in, but it's gotta be west of The Divide!
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:08 PM (8sCoq)

Gotta have a gun range too...is Parshall close enough? I like to blast and cast there...fish the Colorado then go have fun with guns.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (7xPCu)

253
Rifle = part ranching community, more recently services for the oil shale district
Inbred ranching families, illegal Mexicans, oil workers.


Parachute = Bedroom community, half retirees, half oil field workers
Exiles from Grand Junction and the Roaring Fork Valley


Debeque = Truck stop, not much else Meth and glory holes


Palisade = Fruit orchards, wineries (my dad used to raise apples out there) Hippies and yuppies who have had a nervous breakdown.


Grand Junction= the junction of the Gunnison River and Grand River
(aka the Colorado River). Natural crossroads for commerce on the E-W
route from Denver to points west. Tourism, agriculture, agri-tourism
(wine), not so much of a destination, more of a gateway.
The only sign of civilization between Denver and SLC


Fruita = place I was born, mountain biking, dinosaur fossils It's cute they think they are a real town.


FIFY

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (hpDVh)

254 I've come up with a theme song to accompany my vision for America. AC/DC's Shot Down in Flames.

Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at January 27, 2013 11:11 PM (vbh31)

255 Shaun White wins X-Games half-pipe gold

in other news: water wet, sky blue, puppies cute

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:11 PM (8sCoq)

256

As opposed to the tame fires that s frequently pop up there.

I think they call them domesticated fires nowadays.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:12 PM (wUD5d)

257 "Here's the two plus two: Starting next year, you can wait until you're sick to purchase health insurance. And if you do so, you cannot be denied or even charged a higher premium price. Here's the four: Because the ObamaCare penalty to be uninsured is much cheaper than purchasing insurance, why not do exactly that?

As I laid out in this piece, because ObamaCare allows me to game the system in this way, for the first time in over 25 years, I'm an uninsured-American. Going forward, my plan is to pay the annual penalty, which is ridiculously cheaper than insurance, and only purchase health insurance should I get sick.
As soon as the masses figure out this option under Obamacare - that there's even less of an incentive to purchase health insurance than there was before ObamaCare passed - that's how the system crashes."

Yes. And then we get Single Payer, which was probably the intent all along, because Leftists are never content to go only half Communist. They always have to go full Communist.


Later, all.

God bless (and help us).

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2013 11:12 PM (CHnHn)

258 Number nine number nine number nine. . . .


Posted by: alexthechick -Team SMOD at January 27, 2013 11:12 PM (Gk3SS)

259 Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (hpDVh)

I like your no nonesense descriptions best of all, Do you work for the Colorado Dept of Tourism?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:12 PM (l86i3)

260 Alex thanx for the translation on colorado topology

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:12 PM (BBWjt)

261 there is a BBQ joint behind the Fruita Super 8 that has the finest onion rings in all of Christendom


Posted by: Jones in CO

They also have a combo laundry mat/drive through liquor store. Beat that!

I like Palisade as well. Nice place to stay is the Wine Country Inn.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:12 PM (EAgmr)

262
I like your no nonesense descriptions best of all, Do you work for the Colorado Dept of Tourism?


I'm a giver. I give.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:13 PM (hpDVh)

263 zeera, okay

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:13 PM (BBWjt)

264 there's a college there
Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:07 PM (BBWjt)


This I know. Can't remember the name though. Good fishing on the Gunnison and a road to Taylor Reservour.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 11:13 PM (JgkPs)

265 And Olathe Sweet Corn is practically its own food group

and Grand Junction peaches are like candy

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:13 PM (8sCoq)

266 a DRIVE THROUGH LIQUOR STORE???

I am so there

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (BBWjt)

267 FIFY
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (hpDVh)

*********

Aw hell Alex, I was giving the cleaned up version for the out-of-towners.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (1OZSU)

268 I'm a giver. I give.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:13 PM (hpDVh)


Then how about giving an Address for those Glory Holes?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (l86i3)

269 I had no idea so many 'rons and 'ettes were in this part of Colorado.

Posted by: Infidel at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (bzOLE)

270 257
"Here's the two plus two: Starting next year, you can wait until you're
sick to purchase health insurance. And if you do so, you cannot be
denied or even charged a higher premium price. Here's the four: Because
the ObamaCare penalty to be uninsured is much cheaper than purchasing
insurance, why not do exactly that?



As I laid out in this piece, because ObamaCare allows me to game the
system in this way, for the first time in over 25 years, I'm an
uninsured-American. Going forward, my plan is to pay the annual penalty,
which is ridiculously cheaper than insurance, and only purchase health
insurance should I get sick.

As soon as the masses figure out this option under Obamacare - that
there's even less of an incentive to purchase health insurance than
there was before ObamaCare passed - that's how the system crashes."



Yes. And then we get Single Payer, which was probably the intent
all along, because Leftists are never content to go only half Communist.
They always have to go full Communist.





Later, all.



God bless (and help us).

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2013 11:12 PM (CHnHn)

BURN THE MATH WITCH!Mother Fucker, THIS is what happens when you pass something before you know whats in it.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (+OTLF)

271 Count me in for a Western Slope moron meetup.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (hpDVh)

272 The GOP is divided into three parts.

The Anti-Democrats.

The RINOs.

The Gangstas.

In 2008 and 2012 the RINO candidate lost.

Let's try an Anti-Democrat or a Gangsta next time.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (jp2Ur)

273 226 I-70 corridor west of Glenwood Springs, quick reference guide. Rifle = part ranching community, more recently services for the oil shale district Parachute = Bedroom community, half retirees, half oil field workers Debeque = Truck stop, not much else Palisade = Fruit orchards, wineries (my dad used to raise apples out there) Grand Junction= the junction of the Gunnison River and Grand River (aka the Colorado River). Natural crossroads for commerce on the E-W route from Denver to points west. Tourism, agriculture, agri-tourism (wine), not so much of a destination, more of a gateway. Fruita = place I was born, mountain biking, dinosaur fossils
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:04 PM (1OZSU)

Back in '99 I worked out of this tiny town called Naturita, about two hours south of GJ. Far enough from Telluride and Durangoto be a sleepy little town, and some pretty good honest folk there. Loved the landscape...I've always had a weakness for the four corners region.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (7xPCu)

274 Colorado is like a lot of states: gotta get away from the big cities and out into the hinterlands to see the good stuff

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (8sCoq)

275 Hi ont, beer check, cherry licorice check, peanut butter mms check, won $500 at keno wheeeeee yep I am good!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (EAAfY)

276 Western State College in Gunnison

Colorado Mesa University (formerly Mesa State College) in Grand Junction

Fort Lewis College in Durango

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (1OZSU)

277 Neidermeier's dead horse - I read that as "Rand is in the closet." ...

Posted by: PULL UP PULL-UP PULL UP at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (LYwCh)

278
Aw hell Alex, I was giving the cleaned up version for the out-of-towners.


Yes, but then they tell their friends and that's how you end up with Californians.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (hpDVh)

279
Western State College is in Gunnison. I forgot there's a big "W" on the hillside above the college.

That be cattle country out thataway. Moo.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (Md8Uo)

280 To all you under 30 somethings. There is beauty in youth (18+) point out any 20 something chick you wouldn't bang to a 50+ guy. His response will be I'd tap that 90% of the time.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 27, 2013 10:30 PM (qo244)

======
Yep. Half the pretty ladies at karaoke each weekend are young enough for me to be their dad.

The other half are either married or perpetually pissed off at men.

Howdy, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 27, 2013 11:16 PM (5J54Q)

281 Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:10 PM (hpDVh)

LOL

Posted by: Infidel at January 27, 2013 11:16 PM (bzOLE)

282 Here is a change of topic.

I read something interesting in C.S. Lewis's "Miracles". He discussed the situation when an author has written his characters into a horrible "muddle" and then rescues them by winning the lottery or some other "deus ex machina" thing. Lewis called it "bad art". We are naturally repulsed by such things. They are unnatural. While winning the lottery is not unnatural, it should not be thing that cures all ills.


I am hit by two examples of this "bad art" recently. First, I am re-reading "The Fellowship of the Ring". Who the fuck is Tom Bombadil? Is he God? Is he a god? Is he immortal? Holy fucking shit! He certainly showed up at an opportune moment.

Secondly, I have be watching "Downton Abbey". Did Matthew Crowley just save the estate from the incompetence of Lord Robert by inheriting a fortune from Reggie Swinson?

Bad art.


Posted by: Al at January 27, 2013 11:16 PM (V70Uh)

283 245
it just seems like our team is stuck in the past. and that is just sad.


Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:09 PM (BBWjt)


There's a helluva lot to be said for the past. The past is where a ragtag bunch of colonists, including an outright penal colony, threw off they yoke of their faraway lords and conquered a continent. The past is where a land far away from esteemed universities became the major source of discovery and invention for a planet. The past is where a nation who could barely keep its borders secure bailed out besieged nations all around the world for a period of years.

The trick is to know which parts of the past were responsible for the good things, and keep those -- not wholesale say, "I can do better" because you're some starry-eyed nincompoop with a ginormous ego and no sense of history (and big ears besides).

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2013 11:16 PM (kaalw)

284 hus far, I haven't seen a single episode where the folks on the the end of the line didn't turn out to be full of shit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 10:29 PM (piMMO)



Yeah, I saw an episode of that show. There are some disturbing and disturbed people out there.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2013 10:34 PM (jp2Ur)

Well, if the Internet lovers turned out to be exactly as advertised, they wouldn't have a gripping, angst-ridden story to tell, would they? I suspect the "satisfied customers" are weeded out in the interest of drama. It's television; if they can't lie directly, they'll lie by omission.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2013 11:16 PM (29+x5)

285 Yes, but then they tell their friends and that's how you end up with Californians.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (hpDVh)

You could be in S/E NC and end up with NYrs. Same politics just loud and rude as hell.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (l86i3)

286 >Back in '99 I worked out of this tiny town called Naturita

yeah I rode thru Naturita last summer on the bike- they do NOT have 91 octane gas- luckily my bike has the fatty boy 6 gallon tank so I just kept on gittin' up thru Unaweep Canyon all the way to GJ

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (8sCoq)

287 "Here's the two plus two: Starting next year, you can wait until you're sick to purchase health insurance. And if you do so, you cannot be denied or even charged a higher premium price. Here's the four: Because the ObamaCare penalty to be uninsured is much cheaper than purchasing insurance, why not do exactly that?

As I laid out in this piece, because ObamaCare allows me to game the system in this way, for the first time in over 25 years, I'm an uninsured-American. Going forward, my plan is to pay the annual penalty, which is ridiculously cheaper than insurance, and only purchase health insurance should I get sick.
As soon as the masses figure out this option under Obamacare - that there's even less of an incentive to purchase health insurance than there was before ObamaCare passed - that's how the system crashes."

Yes. And then we get Single Payer, which was probably the intent all along, because Leftists are never content to go only half Communist. They always have to go full Communist.

****

My insurance is $255 per month ad has a $1700 deductible. Even so, I would take out loans to pay it before depending upon the system to take care of me next time I need a $150k surgery.

Do. Not. Trust.

No thank you.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (piMMO)

288 Chemjeff - A summer meet up would be great. Lots of festivals and other events going on in this area at that time as well.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (EAgmr)

289

"And then we get Single Payer, which was probably the intent all along,
because Leftists are never content to go only half Communist. They
always have to go full Communist."

Of course it was. It was a hodge podge Rube Goldberg mess designed to fail
and force the private insurers out of the business ala Cloward-Piven.
The people will then cry out for Single Payer. Unless they don't

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (wUD5d)

290 241

good luck, we are pulling for you



Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:08 PM (BBWjt)

Thanks, man.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (7xeJQ)

291 lou, congratulations on winning at keno!

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (BBWjt)

292 OK, Sven's sleeping-----lets start making the plans for his intervention.......

Posted by: Jerry Springer at January 27, 2013 11:18 PM (6gk77)

293 189
@176

This functional alcoholic shit is just that, shit. People
can drink and work. The drink Nazi's and the social workers want to
classify anyone who drinks more that three drinks a day as an alcoholic.

That
would mean most every fucking worker at US Steel is an alcoholic. Every
fucking British naval officer, and the list goes on.

They people have a reason for these classifications, they get paid to "help".

Total fucking bull shit. I need a drink.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (wR+pz)

That is not a "functioning alcoholic". Being an alcoholic has nothing to do with how many drinks you have, it is having to "have" those drinks. It's not about the guy who has a few beers after work, but the guy who has a few beers before work. You can't tell they have been drinking because that is the way they always look. Their job performance doesn't just drop way off one day, it starts a very gradual descent until one day you look at them as a pretty bad employee.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 27, 2013 11:18 PM (Zd/NW)

294 Yes, but then they tell their friends and that's how you end up with Californians.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (hpDVh)

*****

You're the one who mentioned the Glory Holes and meth labs. Just putting out the welcome mat, eh?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:18 PM (1OZSU)

295 269 I had no idea so many 'rons and 'ettes were in this part of Colorado.
Posted by: Infidel at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (bzOLE)

270 Most pussies....
Posted by: Iagree at January 27, 2013 11:14 PM (z9CBg)
-----

Be nice or i'll seperate you two.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 11:18 PM (sqp6o)

296 You could be in S/E NC and end up with NYrs. Same politics just loud and rude as hell.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (l86i3)

Shitty drivers too...at least Californians know how to properly operate motor vehicles.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:19 PM (7xPCu)

297 It's television; if they can't lie directly, they'll lie by omission.
How do I know that you're not a Jamaican guy from Scarborough, Alta Oil Peon?
;^)

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2013 11:20 PM (ORGYc)

298
I save my vitriol on these subjects for the conservative and libertarians because I expect no less from the nanny state do-gooders. They've always been around and always will be. But I feel (and I hate to feel) betrayed when people who are supposed to be like minded fall for this crap. Like, et tu, brute?
And of course, there are exceptions on both sides, Venn diagrams and all that, but the essence stands.

Posted by: OneEuedJack at January 27, 2013 11:20 PM (ORvjs)

299 Continuing the gun discussion from the other thread.
Is it wrong for me to be incredibly frustrated that we are not doing a better job separating the 2nd Amendment from crime?
The two have nothing to do with one another.
You can certainly deprive me of my rights, after due process. Period.
The second amendment is not about hunting, crime, sporting clays or any other stupid thing. That's why we as conservatives do a disservice when we keep connecting it to a criminal conversation. Nothing to do with Sandy Hook.

Its the concealed carry permit for the American people. It serves the same purpose of deterrence for the Federal Govt that the uncertainty in a community that has concealed carry has for a criminal.

This is more of a 4th amendment issue, is it not? can I be deprived or my rights without due process?
When you yell fire in a theater, that is protected under the first a. If it causes harm, e.g. no fire, and people get hurt, then you can be punished for that AFTER due process..
Am I wrong to keep trying to separate the two issues?
Oh, and sven, keep in mind that the chain of command has NO "sway" on forcing your wife to do something that is unconstitutional. If she is an officer, she takes an oath to the constitution, period. If an enlisted troop, she also has to obey the orders of those appointed above her, including the president, but the officers oath is purely to the Constitution.
I've taken both of them.
Comments?

Mike


Posted by: MikeB at January 27, 2013 11:20 PM (gLAk8)

300 BTW if any of you unColoradans are thinking of moving out here, don't. It's really hot in summer, tornadoes, hailstorms, high UV index, oxygen deficit, the low humidity will damn near desiccate you in summer, then there's the snowstorms... bears and mountain lions will eat your children and pets...

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:20 PM (8sCoq)

301 Shitty drivers too...at least Californians know how to properly operate motor vehicles.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:19 PM (7xPCu)


Agreed. Anyone that can navigate the 405 during rush hour, or as I like to call it, the montazuma grand prix, you can handle red state America.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:21 PM (l86i3)

302 cthulhu, no, it's not about the history, it's about the technology.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:21 PM (BBWjt)

303 Thank gawd nobody read "my" books.

Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at January 27, 2013 11:22 PM (vbh31)

304 280 Western State College is in Gunnison. I forgot there's a big "W" on the hillside above the college.That be cattle country out thataway. Moo.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 27, 2013 11:15 PM (Md8Uo)

*******

That's what the "W" on the hill stands for...Moo. (What with cow tipping and all)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:22 PM (1OZSU)

305 235 Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm
I'm just tired of smoking and, in addition, it will make me happy to know that I've cut off a source of revenue for the FSA.


That's the best reason of all to quit, IMO.

I'm taking Chantix.

Yikes. My doctor suggested that a couple of years ago, and after reading about the potential side effects, I said, "No thanks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varenicline#Depression_and_suicide

I wish you the best of luck in your efforts to quit, but if you start having strange thoughts and feelings, KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF RIGHT NOW.

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2013 11:22 PM (sdi6R)

306 Four more to go if someone wants to snag The Number Of The Mooch on the previous thread.

Posted by: t-bird at January 27, 2013 11:22 PM (FcR7P)

307 292 lou, congratulations on winning at keno!
Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:17 PM (BBWjt)

Thanks, I have been really good. only go gambling when hubby puts bets on football, which is seldom. But he had fantasy football rules meeting, he dropped me at the casino, and I won! Yay.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:22 PM (EAAfY)

308 "Why should I change with the times, when the time are so obviously wrong?"

Author unknown

Posted by: Infidel at January 27, 2013 11:23 PM (bzOLE)

309 Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm

Good luck to you! I tried Chantix myself but had bad nightmares from the stuff. I guess I should just deal with the nightmares and try again. It is not a crutch if it works.


Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:23 PM (EAgmr)

310 RWC, neko-girls or drunk Subic Bay monkeys.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2013 11:23 PM (PzMYS)

311 so apparently there is a "Colorado Lavender Festival"

what is that about?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:24 PM (BBWjt)

312 246

Yeah, I am amazed that Portlandia does such a great job of skewering liberals! That show is funnier than shit,and I can't believe Lorne Michaels is the producer, when SNL stays far, faraway from lib ridicule, with rare exceptions. Anyone who hasn't watched, because you think it will be liberal tripe, watch it. It is liberal tripe, but as the object of ridicule, for a change. Refreshing. But I can't figure out why libs like this show. I guess for the same reason cons like shows like Duck Dynasty? I am not saying they're the same. I am confused by the whole thing.

Posted by: kalneva at January 27, 2013 11:24 PM (S+/pH)

313 if any of you unColoradans are thinking of moving out here, don't. It's really hot in summer, tornadoes, hailstorms, high UV index

and the altitude will expose you as an intellectual lightweight.

Posted by: Barky McFuckstick at January 27, 2013 11:24 PM (FcR7P)

314 Notice that the penalty for failing to have health insurance is a "tax" which the government receives, not the insurance companies.

When you get really, really sick, the insurance companies have to take you. This will bankrupt them.


Posted by: Al at January 27, 2013 11:25 PM (V70Uh)

315 302 BTW if any of you unColoradans are thinking of moving out here, don't. It's really hot in summer, tornadoes, hailstorms, high UV index, oxygen deficit, the low humidity will damn near desiccate you in summer, then there's the snowstorms... bears and mountain lions will eat your children and pets...
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:20 PM (8sCoq)

*******

Yeah- he's telling it like it is.Plus the mosquitoes in the summer,locusts, Indian attacks, buffalo stampedes and no indoor plumbing. Did I mention locusts?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:25 PM (1OZSU)

316

"I forgot there's a big "W" on the hillside above the college"

Isn't that where the money is buried?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:25 PM (wUD5d)

317 @50 imho that's the appropriate reaction. Keep them under observation.
"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action."
Keep it cocked and locked so they won't get the jump on you.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 27, 2013 11:26 PM (1V6Pv)

318 Isn't that where the money is buried?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:25 PM (wUD5d)

Yes, it is a Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad World.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:26 PM (l86i3)

319 302 BTW if any of you unColoradans are thinking of moving out here, don't. It's really hot in summer, tornadoes, hailstorms, high UV index, oxygen deficit, the low humidity will damn near desiccate you in summer, then there's the snowstorms... bears and mountain lions will eat your children and pets...
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:20 PM (8sCoq)

I am hoping and praying for a huge snowstorm here in Denver...we need the moisture, and the fun!

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:26 PM (7xPCu)

320 Shitty drivers too...at least Californians know how to properly operate motor vehicles.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:19 PM (7xPCu)


I learned to drive on the mean highways of Los Angeles. The driver's here in GJ are pretty bad. They don't know the concept of right-of-way much less adhere to it. To make a left turn they sit parked behind the line afraid to move out into the street so that they could actually make a left turn thus screwing everyone behind them. You'd get shot in Cali for doing that.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:26 PM (EAgmr)

321 bears and mountain lions will eat your children and pets...
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:20 PM (8sCoq)


No shit. damn near lost my pet rattler that way.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2013 11:26 PM (JgkPs)

322 kalneva well it is really easy to mock Portland liberals, they behave exactly according to the stereotype

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:27 PM (BBWjt)

323 Under the "big dubbya" in Santa Rosita.

Posted by: Al at January 27, 2013 11:27 PM (V70Uh)

324 Agreed Cheri, the drivers here are horrible.

Posted by: Infidel at January 27, 2013 11:28 PM (bzOLE)

325 Driving? How much fun do you think i have playing 'dodge 'em' with fucker that have Diplomat plates and follow the rules of the road of their country of origin. Never mind the citizens that can't drive when it's sunny, leave their lights off at dusk because they can see fine. I guess me not seeing them is my problem. Icy roads...i gots a 4WD!!

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 11:28 PM (sqp6o)

326 319 "I forgot there's a big "W" on the hillside above the college"Isn't that where the money is buried?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:25 PM (wUD5d)

Yup blame it on Bush!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:28 PM (EAAfY)

327 Repeating my comment from the last thread

Uncle Ted: "What Kind of Idiot Thinks That Our Founding Fathers Were Protecting Deer Hunting?"

http://bit.ly/SC7pE0

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:29 PM (piMMO)

328 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2013 11:23 PM (PzMYS)

Didja read my little attempt at an opening.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:29 PM (l86i3)

329 324
Shitty drivers too...at least Californians know how to properly operate motor vehicles.


Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:19 PM (7xPCu)



I learned to drive on the mean highways of Los Angeles. The
driver's here in GJ are pretty bad. They don't know the concept of
right-of-way much less adhere to it. To make a left turn they sit parked
behind the line afraid to move out into the street so that they could
actually make a left turn thus screwing everyone behind them. You'd get
shot in Cali for doing that.




Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:26 PM (EAgmr)


Yes.......but -- put some precipitation on the road, and watch 'em FREAK!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2013 11:29 PM (kaalw)

330 > The driver's here in GJ are pretty bad.

The signature move of the Denver Metro driver is to drive right up to the interchange in the left-most lane and then cut across 3 lanes of traffic to hit the on/off-ramp

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:30 PM (8sCoq)

331 well, gotta go to bed. actually have to work in the morning.

good night all

looking forward to the colorado meetup, it should be epic

just as long as there aren't any rocky mountain oysters

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2013 11:30 PM (BBWjt)

332 What is it with four-way stop signs here in SC?

The morons (in a bad way) don't seem to understand that they should PAY ATTENTION. Fucking idiots. Generally, they are very nice. But when they are behind the wheel, they are TOO POLITE.


Posted by: Al at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (V70Uh)

333

Yes. And then we get Single Payer, which was probably the intent all along, because Leftists are never content to go only half Communist. They always have to go full Communist."


Probably true, and almost certainly true ...

... however, judging by various reports, people are starting to wake up to the truth of ObamaCare. That it won't bend costs down is becoming apparent to everyone.

As companies with 50 or more people start downsizing / dropping healthcare / downsizing (again), many more people are going to learn about political promises and elections the hard way.

Fortunately for us, this is happening in early 2013 ... it's still January. What will happen over the next 6 months? Campaign 2014 might start much earlier than expected ...



Posted by: Arbalest at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (3E35L)

334 Yes.......but -- put some precipitation on the road, and watch 'em FREAK!
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2013 11:29 PM (kaalw)

Good Point.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (l86i3)

335 324 Shitty drivers too...at least Californians know how to properly operate motor vehicles. Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:19 PM (7xPCu) I learned to drive on the mean highways of Los Angeles. The driver's here in GJ are pretty bad. They don't know the concept of right-of-way much less adhere to it. To make a left turn they sit parked behind the line afraid to move out into the street so that they could actually make a left turn thus screwing everyone behind them. You'd get shot in Cali for doing that.
Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:26 PM (EAgmr)

I found out that having a bigass F-250 with copious dents and scratches, plus amassive, mud encrustedbrushguard gets serious respect from other drivers, especially in southern CA.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (7xPCu)

336 The signature move of the Denver Metro driver is to drive right up to the interchange in the left-most lane and then cut across 3 lanes of traffic to hit the on/off-ramp

***

That's a popular move on I75 in Atlanta as well.

I've never driven there that folks weren't cutting across 6 lanes of traffic at the last minute.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (piMMO)

337 #182

Well, she was fairly attractive but had horrific style. The first time I really found myself paying attention was the Material Girl video where she was doing a Marilyn Monroe impression and also had a more natural style in the other parts of the video where Keith Carradine wins her over with an old pickup truck rather than something ostentatious. She looked best when the purpose was to imitate some past beauty, like Bridget Bardot. Although I hated the Dick Tracy movie, she looked pretty good in 1930s costuming for that.

She could have been a less memorable Playmate but not Playmate of the Year.

Posted by: epobirs at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (kcfmt)

338 @295

I respectfully disagree. Drinking is a function of will power. Drinking can be addictive and some people are more prone to become addicted.

Classifying addictive drinking as a disease has fostered an entire industry of "helpers". The success rate of those "helpers" is ridiculous. Drunks go back to rehab repeatedly, because the rehab is a joke, but insurance will pay for it.

Labeling people "Alcoholics" is simply away to get insurance money for "treatment".

People make choices in life, drinking, smoking, sex addiction, drugs. Some make the wrong decision, that about it.

I am tired of the prohibitionist and I am out of wine. Good night Sir.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (wR+pz)

339
Being stuck here in Calibonya, at least for now,

I am at least in front row seats for the coming slow motion train wreak that started when the apparent "Intelligencias" of this great state (read illegals and their democratic handlers) stole a voting process that at one time was the hallmark of a nation that has had a bloodless exchange of power every four years since it's inception. That said and with the voting in of "Jerry BATH HOUSE Brown.....AGAIN???" I am convinced that this process is so corrupted that nothing short of this entire land mass being tipped into the pacific and swallowed whole will ever correct this abortion of the voting booth.
"Civility" is no longer an option. It is either we take back the democratic process by destroying "quickly" the commies and Socialists that have slowly degraded our system to suit their goals, or we suffer even greater fates.

We do not have decades to fix this...Action is a real time application.


Commit to an ACTION....deny them their victory and taking a page from their own play book...."By whatever means needed."

Posted by: Richard at January 27, 2013 11:33 PM (CM/vG)

340 Grand Junction drivers at a four-way stop sign all get out of their cars, meet in the middle of the intersection and do "rock-paper-scissors" to decide who gets to go first.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:33 PM (1OZSU)

341 Yeah, because all Californians were born here, except for the 99% who just moved here from the Northeast to escape the shitty wet weather there, but brought with them their shitty liberal politics.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2013 11:33 PM (IDSI7)

342 Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (wR+pz)

Yep, I quit smoking and drinking heavy when I got sick and tired of being sick and tired.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:34 PM (l86i3)

343 Big F*in' ICE STORM , yeah, right. little snow, some sleet , warming rain.
Chicken Little weather strikes again. Luna ? lunatics

Posted by: seamrog at January 27, 2013 11:34 PM (yO44c)

344 But he had fantasy football rules meeting, he dropped me at the casino, and I won! Yay.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:22 PM (EAAfY)

Praise Shiva Kamini Sunda Kunda Krom.

(if you know that, I'll be surprised. If not, it's from The League. Funny ass show about fantasy football.)

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 11:34 PM (sqp6o)

345 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:33


Now that there was funny! True but funny

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:34 PM (EAgmr)

346 344
Grand Junction drivers at a four-way stop sign all get out of their
cars, meet in the middle of the intersection and do
"rock-paper-scissors" to decide who gets to go first


Now I think they each pass a joint and vote.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 11:34 PM (wR+pz)

347 Good night, sir. That there sounds like a polite FU. I'll know for sure, if it's repeated in all caps (cuz I'm not too bright)

Posted by: OneEuedJack at January 27, 2013 11:35 PM (ORvjs)

348 Girls, pistols in your purses will not accidentally go off. Modern firearms are a wonder...
Posted by: Iagree at January 27, 2013 11:35 PM (z9CBg)

But peckers in your vagina will, use Birth Control.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:36 PM (l86i3)

349 >Grand Junction drivers at a four-way stop sign all get out of their
cars, meet in the middle of the intersection and do
"rock-paper-scissors" to decide who gets to go first.


In Denver, all 4 cars will come to a stop- everybody sizes each other up- then they all take off at the same time

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:36 PM (8sCoq)

350 You're the one who mentioned the Glory Holes and meth labs. Just putting out the welcome mat, eh?

Hey, I figure they'll need work when they get here, and Lord knows most of them don't have a trade to fall back on.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:36 PM (hpDVh)

351 @346

I quit drinking every year for about three months to lose weight. I love drinking, but it really does fucks up your blood pressure, your weight and sleep.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 11:36 PM (wR+pz)

352 Shitty drivers too...at least Californians know how to properly operate motor vehicles.


Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2013 11:19 PM (7xPCu)



Have you been here when it's raining?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 27, 2013 11:37 PM (NzBQO)

353 345 Yeah, because all Californians were born here, except for the 99% who just moved here from the Northeast to escape the shitty wet weather there, but brought with them their shitty liberal politics.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2013 11:33 PM (IDSI7)

That happens in all the good states, the losers move there because housing is priced right, and the government pretty much stays out of your business, until they vote in a bunch of loser dems,.
The sad thing is, the cool states are disappearing before our eyes. I swear, if i had a home in a red state for sell, I would demanda buyerprove they were conservative before I would sell it to them!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:37 PM (EAAfY)

354 It's television; if they can't lie directly, they'll lie by omission.
How do I know that you're not a Jamaican guy from Scarborough, Alta Oil Peon?
;^)


Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2013 11:20 PM (ORGYc)

Gimme my Red Stripe, mon.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2013 11:38 PM (29+x5)

355 355 You're the one who mentioned the Glory Holes and meth labs. Just putting out the welcome mat, eh? Hey, I figure they'll need work when they get here, and Lord knows most of them don't have a trade to fall back on.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:36 PM (hpDVh)

*******

Well, excepting those two particular skill sets of course. Wife works at the glory hole, hubby at the meth lab. (or was it the other way around?)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:38 PM (1OZSU)

356 Have you been here when it's raining?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 27, 2013 11:37 PM (NzBQO)


It never rains in California.

Posted by: Albert Hammond at January 27, 2013 11:38 PM (l86i3)

357
345 above was in response to

Yes.......but -- put some precipitation on the road, and watch 'em FREAK!
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2013 11:29 PM (kaalw)


Most of the assholes here just moved here in the last 10 or 20 years from some shitty place with shitty weather. Did they forget how to drive in shitty weather? Or did they just never know, in which case they were shitty drivers wherever they came from, right?

I was at a business lunch a while ago where I was the ONLY native Californian out of eight people, who ALL came from the Northeast. So feather the "Californians can't drive under wet conditions;" native Californians are about as rare as liberals with a sense of decency.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2013 11:38 PM (IDSI7)

358 No, I was not saying FU, just being cute.

Ole Bill Clinton had a neat FU. He'd say "nice tie"

And really, Good night sir!

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 11:39 PM (wR+pz)

359
The signature move of the Denver Metro driver is to drive right up
to the interchange in the left-most lane and then cut across 3 lanes of
traffic to hit the on/off-ramp


And they somehow manage to bend the laws of physics to do so, since the three lanes between them and the exit are packed.


Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:40 PM (hpDVh)

360

"I am convinced that this process is so corrupted that nothing short of
this entire land mass being tipped into the pacific and swallowed whole
will ever correct this abortion of the voting booth."

All you need are a few more Marines.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:40 PM (wUD5d)

361 Good night sir!

*******

I don't recognize this place anymore.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:40 PM (1OZSU)

362 It's a major troll, OSP. Ignore it.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2013 11:41 PM (ORGYc)

363 It never rains in California.

Posted by: Albert Hammond at January 27, 2013 11:38 PM (l86i3)
A drizzle or slight mist is considered rain to us.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 27, 2013 11:41 PM (NzBQO)

364 Well, excepting those two particular skill sets of course. Wife works at
the glory hole, hubby at the meth lab. (or was it the other way
around?)


These days I think set up a schedule to determine which one is the "wife" that day.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2013 11:42 PM (hpDVh)

365 I was at a business lunch a while ago where I was the ONLY native Californian out of eight people, who ALL came from the Northeast. So feather the "Californians can't drive under wet conditions;" native Californians are about as rare as liberals with a sense of decency.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2013 11:38 PM (IDSI7)


California used to be a nice place.

Then the hippies came in, and after them, the illegals.

Now people are escaping, and the state is rapidly graying.

R.I.P.

Posted by: The (former) California Hat at January 27, 2013 11:42 PM (Vk2pI)

366 @308 rickl

I've read up regarding the potential side effects. I've been taking it for a week now and, aside from mild but pervasive nausea, I've noticed none of them.

@312 Cheri

I've not experiencing nightmares but, rather, extremely "vivid" dreams where I can recall a large portion of the details upon awakening. Kinda wild, actually.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 27, 2013 11:42 PM (7xeJQ)

367 It's a major troll, OSP. Ignore it.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2013 11:41 PM (ORGYc)

I thought it was Corky, the guy that bags my groceries and breaks the eggs. I try to be nice to the handicapable.

Posted by: Albert Hammond at January 27, 2013 11:42 PM (l86i3)

368 Billy Bob oldsailor say it is not so.
I guess I am the only drunkard/cig smoker representing tonite! Pouring one for my homie!
Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 11:34 PM (sqp6o)
Sorry don't know it, hubby either, says he does not watch it.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:43 PM (EAAfY)

369 >A drizzle or slight mist is considered rain to us.


I heard CA recently had a cold snap - temps in the 50s and 60s

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 27, 2013 11:43 PM (8sCoq)

370 I am a big fan of open carry.

The first time I saw a man wearing a pistol in a holster:

In 1984, I worked in Tempe AZ. Some friends turned me on to the "tubing down the Salt River" thing. So. I am floating down the Salt river in an inner tube and I see an Indian (feather, not dot) wearing a Cowboy outfit with holstered pistol on the land. Prior to this I was pretty much an urban creature. His expression was peaceful. Part of growing up. When will Obama grow up?




Posted by: Al at January 27, 2013 11:43 PM (V70Uh)

371 Gimme my Red Stripe, mon.
I knew it!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2013 11:43 PM (ORGYc)

372 Billy Bob oldsailor say it is not so.
I guess I am the only drunkard/cig smoker representing tonite! Pouring one for my homie!
Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 11:34 PM (sqp6o)

I never said I quit, I'm a four drink five smokes a day person vs a half a fifth and pack a day.

Posted by: Albert Hammond at January 27, 2013 11:44 PM (l86i3)

373 Darn the sock.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:45 PM (l86i3)

374 Re: everywhere.
Sen. Franken's (D-MN) best line ever was when he said (re: cross-dressing Republican Norm Coleman), "Of the two New York Jews in the MN Senate race, I am the only one who was actually born here."

Posted by: Thorvald at January 27, 2013 11:46 PM (1V6Pv)

375
California used to be a nice place.

Then the hippies came in, and after them, the illegals.

Now people are escaping, and the state is rapidly graying.

R.I.P.


Yep, and it makes me sick to see what these worthless assholes have done to my beloved California. Truly sick. If you can fuck up and bankrupt paradise, you can fuck up and bankrupt anything.

I try to explain to my teenagers that seeing California broke now would be like them seeing Bill Gates bankrupt 20 years from now, and asking people to give generously to buy him a warm coat. HTF did that happen?? That's my reaction to California being broke now.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2013 11:47 PM (IDSI7)

376 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2013 11:47 PM (IDSI7)

They fully expect the feds to bail them out, Feds = us.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:48 PM (l86i3)

377 "This functional alcoholic shit is just that, shit.
People can drink and work. The drink Nazi's and the social workers want
to classify anyone who drinks more that three drinks a day as an
alcoholic..."

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 10:55 PM (wR+pz)

An alcoholic is functional until he isn't. Then it gets interesting, and by 'interesting', I mean increasingly nightmarish, dark and desolate, with options narrowed to zero. And no, no one can classify an alcoholic as an alcoholic with any certainty. Only the alcoholic himself can make that assessment with certainty.

When I tell people I'm a recovering drunk with (thankfully) many years of sobriety, many make the assumption that I'm a prohibitionist of some sort. Not true. Drink all you like, have fun, enjoy. I only know I can't safely touch the stuff. If you pass out, I promise not to steal your wallet.

Posted by: troyriser at January 27, 2013 11:48 PM (ptcFO)

378 283
Tolkien expressly stated he wasn't God but an embodiment of goodness. He intentionally kept his nature vague so as to create a blank slate for the reader to apply his own concept of the creator onto. Tolkien wanted to put the character in LOTR as Tom was originally in poems he wrote in the early 1930s. Those poems about Tom were also the first mention of middle earth. Tom is less an example of bad art as bad author placement. Tolkien wanted to include him and the pressure to do so finally got to him. "And even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are. Tom Bombadil is one (intentionally)." - Tolkien

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at January 27, 2013 11:49 PM (xV30b)

379 375 Billy Bob oldsailor say it is not so.
I guess I am the only drunkard/cig smoker representing tonite! Pouring one for my homie!
Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 11:34 PM (sqp6o)
Sorry don't know it, hubby either, says he does not watch it.
Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:43 PM (EAAfY)


Didn't know smokers we're called to the ramparts, if so, i'm there.

It's on FX lou. It took my friend wo years to get me to watch it. I kept thinking, hmm, show about fantasy football, that sucks.

Some good parts from my favorite character..

http://tinyurl.com/bcafkcr

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 11:50 PM (sqp6o)

380 Don't get me started about "The Invasion of the New York Faggots".

I grew up in Pacific Beach. By the time I graduated college, I could not afford to by a house in my home town. The New York Faggots had already discovered it and moved in. Next thing I know, they're bitching about the cross on the top of Mount Soledad (Korean War memorial). Holy fucking shit. Do you have to bring your ACLU Liberal shit with you? You don't seem to have the pioneer spirit.

Posted by: Al at January 27, 2013 11:50 PM (V70Uh)

381 A person I know in the medical field got an e-mail from his boss encouraging him to sign an affidavit at the state Medicaid website, because by doing so it authorizes increased reimbursements from Medicaid for certain services. The worst part of the message was that the boss actually said, "This is free money from the federal government".

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:52 PM (1OZSU)

382 I never said I quit, I'm a four drink five smokes a day person vs a half a fifth and pack a day.
Posted by: Albert Hammond at January 27, 2013 11:44 PM (l86i3)

Aww thats good. I usually dont have a smoke until the afternoon.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:52 PM (EAAfY)

383 Posted by: Al at January 27, 2013 11:50 PM (V70Uh)

No Shit, I used to live in Ocean Beach on Bacon street.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:52 PM (l86i3)

384 Do you have to bring your ACLU Liberal shit with you? You don't seem to have the pioneer spirit.

Get your ass to Mars!!!

Posted by: Adriane channels The Governator at January 27, 2013 11:52 PM (TvO05)

385 even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas

*******

What? Was Bilbo constipated?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2013 11:53 PM (1OZSU)

386

"Holy fucking shit. Do you have to bring your ACLU Liberal shit with you? You don't seem to have the pioneer spirit."

You almost have to move to some place that nobody wants to inhabit.
Like the South Pole or the Moon.

But the Moon is a Harsh Mistress.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:53 PM (wUD5d)

387 When I tell people I'm a recovering drunk with (thankfully) many years of sobriety, many make the assumption that I'm a prohibitionist of some sort. Not true. Drink all you like, have fun, enjoy. I only know I can't safely touch the stuff. If you pass out, I promise not to steal your wallet.

Posted by: troyriser at January 27, 2013 11:48 PM (ptcFO)

Freind of Dr, Bob here as well. No judgement on others, you (they) can handle it, go for it.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2013 11:54 PM (sqp6o)

388 But the Moon is a Harsh Mistress.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:53 PM (wUD5d)


Yeah, but I hear the taxes are low.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:54 PM (l86i3)

389 Pacific Beach was nice once. But the City Council let way too many liquor licenses get issued. It became the Center of the Universe for unmarried singles.


Posted by: Al at January 27, 2013 11:56 PM (V70Uh)

390 342
@295

I respectfully disagree. Drinking is a function of will
power. Drinking can be addictive and some people are more prone to
become addicted.

Classifying addictive drinking as a disease has
fostered an entire industry of "helpers". The success rate of those
"helpers" is ridiculous. Drunks go back to rehab repeatedly, because the
rehab is a joke, but insurance will pay for it.

Labeling people "Alcoholics" is simply away to get insurance money for "treatment".

People make choices in life, drinking, smoking, sex addiction, drugs. Some make the wrong decision, that about it.

I am tired of the prohibitionist and I am out of wine. Good night Sir.




Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 27, 2013 11:31 PM (wR+pz)

Why thank you for putting your fucking knowledge on me. To think for all these years I was wrong until you pointed it out to me. I am cured!!!!!
Sorry to rain on your parade chief, but it isn't all about "willpower". I drink, and I sure as hell am not a prohibitionist. I pretty much doubt you have ever really been around a real alcoholic and had to deal with them. Have you ever had to deal with someone on a bender going into detox? No? It's not fun. There body has become use to the alcohol and needs it, at that point it isn't about will power, it's about survival. Without the alcohol, their body starts to shut down. If you haven't had a medical doctor tell you to make sure that you give the person some alcohol on the way to a treatment facility so they don't die in the car, then you don't know that there really is an addiction to alcohol.
Go to an AA meeting sometime, you will be shocked at how addictive alcohol is, just as addictive as heroin, or crack, or nicotine.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 27, 2013 11:57 PM (Zd/NW)

391 385 Girls, I own the best, so once upon a time you start a war...
Posted by: Iagree at January 27, 2013 11:48 PM (z9CBg)

NOOO hes back!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 27, 2013 11:58 PM (EAAfY)

392 Environmentalists want to make New Zealand kitteh-free:

Is there anything the ecofascists DON'T want to ban?

Boids also cause ecosystem problems if there are no natural predators

Kittehs are nature's ledger balancer

Posted by: kbdabear at January 27, 2013 11:58 PM (wwsoB)

393 It breaks my heart to see California go the way of liberal ruin. I grew up in Cali when Reagan was Governor. It was truly paradise.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:59 PM (EAgmr)

394 You almost have to move to some place that nobody wants to inhabit.Like the South Pole or the Moon.But the Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:53 PM


And the south pole has weird, pissed off shit buried in the ice.

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2013 11:59 PM (yBF/9)

395 Cheri, what part of Cali ?

Posted by: grease monkey at January 27, 2013 11:59 PM (VSWPU)

396 403 It breaks my heart to see California go the way of liberal ruin. I grew up in Cali when Reagan was Governor. It was truly paradise.
Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:59 PM (EAgmr)

Cheri, it makes me so sad to see California now, I watch the old movies, and it truly was so beautiful, have not been there in about 6 years, and it was dumpy as hell. Happening to NV at a rapid rate!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:01 AM (EAAfY)

397 Maet,

Welcome back. Now fucking grease that tard troll.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2013 12:01 AM (xz0nG)

398 I grew up in Redlands (60 mi east of LA) and have lived in San Diego, and the bay area.

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:03 AM (EAgmr)

399 Maybe it's just me, but I always thought having a sex addiction sounded like a lot of fun.

Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2013 12:04 AM (ptcFO)

400 >And the south pole has weird, pissed off shit buried in the ice.

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2013 11:59 PM (yBF/9)

a very frosty cthulhu

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 12:05 AM (8sCoq)

401 A sex addition to a wife who is willing IS a lot of fun.

I am blessed.


Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:06 AM (V70Uh)

402 Ergie will be ions shortly.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2013 12:06 AM (XkotV)

403 Fun until you run into Kathy Griffin in a bar, troyriser.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 28, 2013 12:06 AM (ORGYc)

404 Cheri, it makes me so sad to see California now, I
watch the old movies, and it truly was so beautiful, have not been there
in about 6 years, and it was dumpy as hell. Happening to NV at a rapid
rate!

Posted by: lou's a girl

Sorry to see that in NV. The home of Hairy Reed the pederast. That our fellow citizens can actually vote for these dangerous loons never ceases to astound me. I think that CA takes the cake with Feinstein, Waters, Boxer, and that cretinous reptilian looking guy whose name I've tried to forget.

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:08 AM (EAgmr)

405 Fun until you run into Kathy Griffin in a bar, troyriser.


Posted by: andycanuck at January 28, 2013 12:06 AM (ORGYc)
Thanks. I've now been effectively psychically neutered.

Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2013 12:08 AM (ptcFO)

406 Thanks Maet

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 28, 2013 12:08 AM (1OZSU)

407 Posted by: MrCaniac at January 27, 2013 11:57 PM (Zd/NW)


And besides nicotine, much easier to get. And no, alcohol isn't just 'willpower.'. First and second time i was in the emergency room they said i was near death. And this wasn't binge drinking, it was withdrawal and detox that is the threat. Could have powered a small city with how much imwas shaking.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2013 12:09 AM (sqp6o)

408 See? Sex addiction can be beaten!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 28, 2013 12:09 AM (ORGYc)

409
I the day....my youth,
There were 3 Crosses erected on prominent hill-tops within the valley known as "La Crescenta"...now there is only one. In the days of my youth, there was a mountian region that we roamed at will on our bikes...now the "Feds" want no-one in their self proclaimed "Abode." Only Liberal FEDS and their ilk are allowed..so no one can view the chosen Feds having sex with the wildlife that they have trained....(Remember, this IS Calibonya!)
No people...
No cars...
NO HUNTING!!!!
No camping.......

FEDS ONLY BITCHES!!!!

Because WE are the owners now.......

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 12:10 AM (CM/vG)

410 Sorry to see that in NV. The home of Hairy Reed the pederast. That our fellow citizens can actually vote for these dangerous loons never ceases to astound me. I think that CA takes the cake with Feinstein, Waters, Boxer, and that cretinous reptilian looking guy whose name I've tried to forget.
Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:08 AM (EAgmr)

Yep, I dont know how hairy reed won, he lost every county but Clark, which i think is the biggest, but they were taking union employees to the polls by the busloads, with free lunch and paid day off. So corruption.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:11 AM (EAAfY)

411 In 2012 I had to take a friend 4 times to an ER due to her withdrawals from alcohol. Pretty scary. She just got out of 6 weeks of rehab and has started drinking again. I wrestle with not wanting to rescue her anymore and also not wanting her to die. It is awful.

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:11 AM (EAgmr)

412 Cheri, it makes me so sad to see California now, I
watch the old movies, and it truly was so beautiful, have not been there
in about 6 years, and it was dumpy as hell. Happening to NV at a rapid
rate!

Posted by: lou's a girl

Sorry to see that in NV. The home of Hairy Reed the pederast. That our fellow citizens can actually vote for these dangerous loons never ceases to astound me. I think that CA takes the cake with Feinstein, Waters, Boxer, and that cretinous reptilian looking guy whose name I've tried to forget.

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:08 AM (EAgmr)


Two can play at the demographics game. Nevada needs to selectively import the remaining conservatives from California. About 100K to 150K and the Dem machine will fail.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2013 12:13 AM (Vk2pI)

413 Sorry to see that in NV. The home of Hairy Reed the pederast. That our fellow citizens can actually vote for these dangerous loons never ceases to astound me. I think that CA takes the cake with Feinstein, Waters, Boxer, and that cretinous reptilian looking guy whose name I've tried to forget.
Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:08 AM (EAgmr)

Oh henry waxman, too funny, I just typed pig nosed politician in the search bar, and he came up, too funny

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:13 AM (EAAfY)

414 That Norwegian dessert cheese is really good. I'll have to hunt around the grocery store for a couple of BTUs worth.

Posted by: DaveA at January 28, 2013 12:15 AM (n41jX)

415 Oh henry waxman, too funny, I just typed pig nosed politician in the search bar, and he came up, too funny

Posted by: lou's a girl


That's it! Good God know I have that man's image in my head. Maybe I need to have a drink

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:15 AM (EAgmr)

416 That piece up top about gaming ObamaCare. Pay the fine, get insurance only when you get sick.

Our son lives in IL, which will certainly have exchanges, no? He hates all things Republican and conservative, but is good about money. Has to buy his own health insurance, as the biz he is with will do the same dodge as all those with few employees.

I will snip that piece above and email it to him and say, hey, what about this? No comment, just, hey, why not? It's real money, and it's legit.

I predict that since it will come from me, he will reject it outright and keep buying insurance.

Obamabot.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at January 28, 2013 12:16 AM (PH+2B)

417 Yep, I dont know how hairy reed won, he lost every county but Clark, which i think is the biggest, but they were taking union employees to the polls by the busloads, with free lunch and paid day off. So corruption.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:11 AM (EAAfY)


In 2010, Reid also won Washoe and Mineral counties. No one has won Nevada statewide without winning Washoe since '98 when Reid one by about 600 votes statewide.

Reid has built up a machine here with massive union turnout. Combined with the increase of Dem voting Hispanics, and the fact that Angle was a horrid candidate, then his win comes as no surprise.

Again, demographics is key. Build an "underground railroad" for conservatives looking to escape California, and make sure that the support structure is there to get them established.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2013 12:16 AM (Vk2pI)

418 Well, good night all.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 28, 2013 12:17 AM (1OZSU)

419 Good night Seamus....thanks for making me laugh.

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:17 AM (EAgmr)

420 That's it! Good God know I have that man's image in my head. Maybe I need to have a drink
Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:15 AM (EAgmr)

Teehee, please God, I dont want to go to hell, because I know it would be all henry" I hate smokers" waxman!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:18 AM (EAAfY)

421 Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:13 AM (EAAfY)


'phantom of the opera politician' has it as the 2nd image.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (sqp6o)

422 I enjoyed that video about the races on Mars. This is proof of what government can do for you. Jack Armstrong will be missed.

Posted by: Shiela Jackson Lee at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (yJYwC)

423 I wrestle with not wanting to rescue her anymore and also not wanting her to die. It is awful.


Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:11 AM (EAgmr)

I'm so profoundly sorry for what you're going through, Cheri. It makes me cringe a little inside, remembering the grief and heartache I brought to those who love me. It's fair to say, of all of those people, my mother loves me the most. According to her, the hardest decision she ever made (in a life of hard decisions) was not to try and save me any more, and leave it to God.

Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (ptcFO)

424 Canaries sing pretty,
Fireworks go boom,
Good Night, Sleep Tight,
Seamus Muldoon ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (TvO05)

425 375

California used to be a nice place.

Then the hippies came in, and after them, the illegals.

Now people are escaping, and the state is rapidly graying.

R.I.P.

Yep,
and it makes me sick to see what these worthless assholes have done to
my beloved California. Truly sick. If you can fuck up and bankrupt
paradise, you can fuck up and bankrupt anything.

I try to explain
to my teenagers that seeing California broke now would be like them
seeing Bill Gates bankrupt 20 years from now, and asking people to give
generously to buy him a warm coat. HTF did that happen?? That's my
reaction to California being broke now.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2013 11:47 PM (IDSI7)


California has five of the largest 12 hydrocarbon deposits in the US -- freakin' hippies won't let us drill 'em. Has some of the most fertile land in the world -- currently a dust bowl, courtesy of the enviro-weenies. Pioneered the silicon chip -- can't build a fab here, anymore.....it might endanger some of the children that the LGBT crowd ain't havin'.

I'm native-born, and it makes my skin crawl to see it today.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (kaalw)

426 Again, demographics is key. Build an "underground
railroad" for conservatives looking to escape California, and make sure
that the support structure is there to get them established.

Posted by: The Political Hat

Agreed. 50% of conservative Californians are already leaving by the bus load. The other 50% are trying to salvage their state. Sad.

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:20 AM (EAgmr)

427 In 2010 we got fucked, and harry reid stole his senate seat, just my opinion!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:21 AM (EAAfY)

428 I saw a stripper fall off the stage once, it was only about 4 feet high though but she was obviously much, much higher iykwimaittyd. She was fine, got back on stage and stumbled around for another song and the funny part was after she fell the dj turned the music down and said everythings ok, it's just part of the show.

Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 12:22 AM (HI6wa)

429 388
But the Moon is a Harsh Mistress.





Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2013 11:53 PM (wUD5d)





Yeah, but I hear the taxes are low.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 27, 2013 11:54 PM (l86i3)


The penalties for not paying the Air Tax are pretty straightforward.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:22 AM (kaalw)

430 cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (kaalw)

AZ is going purple and that scares the sh... shoelaces off of me ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2013 12:23 AM (TvO05)

431 An alcoholic is functional until he isn't. Then it gets interesting, and by 'interesting', I mean increasingly nightmarish, dark and desolate, with options narrowed to zero.

Yeah, anyone who had ever known an alcoholic, after the fall, wouldn't argue this point. It's not just a question of willpower, though that goes. It's not just a question of it affecting their work, though it obviously does. A full blown alcoholic can be stuck to a hospital bed because his internals are essentially kaput. Forget the kidneys for a second. I mean a person just past middle age who is having difficulty controlling their muscles and is mentally disappearing

2-3 years before, that person can seem perfectly fine. Alcohol takes it's toll gradually.

For the record, no I'm not a prohibitionist by a long shot. I drink socially and enjoy single malt scotch.

This is a genuine problem to watch out for, though, and anybody arguing otherwise needs to understand that before he gets in trouble.

Posted by: AD at January 28, 2013 12:24 AM (bcLkZ)

432

"Again, demographics is key. Build an "underground

railroad" for conservatives looking to escape California, and make sure

that the support structure is there to get them established.
"


Is that a high speed train or maybe a crazy train?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2013 12:24 AM (wUD5d)

433 400
>And the south pole has weird, pissed off shit buried in the ice.



Posted by: otho at January 27, 2013 11:59 PM (yBF/9)

a very frosty cthulhu


Posted by: Jones in CO at January 28, 2013 12:05 AM (8sCoq)


It ain't me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f33qUqdZapw

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:25 AM (kaalw)

434 430 cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (kaalw) AZ is going purple and that scares the sh... shoelaces off of me ...
Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2013 12:23 AM (TvO05)

So strange all these border states going purple, hmmm wonder why??

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:25 AM (EAAfY)

435 Troyriser - thank you. Congratulations to you for changing your life -- I know it must have been hard. My friend has stepped off of a cliff and is only falling in slow motion. I think that I need to be a true friend and stop rescuing her. But first I will tell her why. I can only pray that it will turn out ok.

Good night all!

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:25 AM (EAgmr)

436 402
Ergie will be ions shortly.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2013 12:06 AM (XkotV)


Damn glad to have you back, Maet!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:25 AM (kaalw)

437 My husband and I will be fleeing California in a few months. I've been out here 32 years, my husband is a 3rd generation Californian.

I hate what has happened to his state.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:26 AM (TCy/B)

438 411
In 2012 I had to take a friend 4 times to an ER due to her withdrawals
from alcohol. Pretty scary. She just got out of 6 weeks of rehab and has
started drinking again. I wrestle with not wanting to rescue her
anymore and also not wanting her to die. It is awful.


Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:11 AM (EAgmr)
407
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 27, 2013 11:57 PM (Zd/NW)





And besides nicotine, much easier to get. And no, alcohol isn't
just 'willpower.'. First and second time i was in the emergency room
they said i was near death. And this wasn't binge drinking, it was
withdrawal and detox that is the threat. Could have powered a small
city with how much imwas shaking.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2013 12:09 AM (sqp6o)

Back in 09 we had to take a family member to treatment. They would not go to the hospital, even though the doctor wanted them to go. Hospital won't take them unless they go in voluntarily, or are passed out and dying. This person was shaking so bad that they couldn't get drink the alcohol that the doctor told us to keep giving to them. When you have to hold the bottle to someone's lips so that they can drink, you know there is an addiction.
Cheri, the best thing you can do is nothing. If you go behind them and clean everything up, they never have to face the consequences of their drinking. The second they do, they are more likely to hit bottom and try to get help.


Posted by: MrCaniac at January 28, 2013 12:27 AM (Zd/NW)

439 so Sci-Fi picked up the rights to a decent show though it doesn't hurt having Rachel Nichols starring in it

Posted by: The Dude at January 28, 2013 12:27 AM (vJdyz)

440 393
It breaks my heart to see California go the way of liberal ruin. I grew
up in Cali when Reagan was Governor. It was truly paradise.


Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2013 11:59 PM

15 years there, and there was so much to love about the place. Unfortunately, the leftists made the place into a corrupt shithole that should make those south of the border feel right at home with.

You have to be very rich or very poor to live there. That's a feature, not a bug

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 12:29 AM (wwsoB)

441 California has five of the largest 12 hydrocarbon deposits in the US -- freakin' hippies won't let us drill 'em. Has some of the most fertile land in the world -- currently a dust bowl, courtesy of the enviro-weenies. Pioneered the silicon chip -- can't build a fab here, anymore.....it might endanger some of the children that the LGBT crowd ain't havin'.

I'm native-born, and it makes my skin crawl to see it today.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (kaalw)


Word. Native San Diegan here. I love this city. And when dad goes toes up, I am the fuck outta here.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:29 AM (3sZO1)

442 MrCaniac = thanks. That is the conclusion I've come to.

Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 12:29 AM (EAgmr)

443 430
cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:19 AM (kaalw)



AZ is going purple and that scares the sh... shoelaces off of me ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2013 12:23 AM (TvO05)


You could have had a rocket scientist, but you got the repulsive Raul Grijalva instead. You shouldn't be scared.....you should be terrified.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:30 AM (kaalw)

444 Bill H,

I'm in San Diego too. I hate leaving this place but there is nothing for us anymore. Sad but true.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:31 AM (TCy/B)

445
411
Cheri,
Dang! A nurse I am for the better part of 20 years......and I do drink.
I know my limits most days yet....I have had many a friend who has dove too deep into the bottle and drowned there....bad endings always.
Sometimes you just have to walk away. Your friend will hit the bottom and recover or....you can never save anyone from themselves. You cannot save them......ever.
Very sad but true. I wish I had something more uplifting to say....

Bless you for trying.....yet the toll on you will be far greater in the end.
This is just the way of these situations.

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 12:32 AM (CM/vG)

446 437
My husband and I will be fleeing California in a few months. I've been
out here 32 years, my husband is a 3rd generation Californian.



I hate what has happened to his state.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:26 AM

When San Diego has become leftist infested, the last nice city has fallen. I even miss L.A., but I know I can never go back there to live as long as it's run by corrupt commiecrats, which I estimate will be the rest of my life

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 12:32 AM (wwsoB)

447 437
My husband and I will be fleeing California in a few months. I've been
out here 32 years, my husband is a 3rd generation Californian.



I hate what has happened to his state.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:26 AM (TCy/B)


So, where's everyone going? I'm down to a bunch of Metropolitan Statistical Areas in six states.....

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:33 AM (kaalw)

448 Mrs Paul, I seem to remember meeting you and your man at Seau's for a Moron Meetup one time. We need to do that again before you leave.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:34 AM (3sZO1)

449 Ugh, I just read the SAG award winners. True to form: they passed out what I now consider to be worthless pieces of metal to Fey, Baldwin, and that twat Julianne Moore was again rewarded for dumping on Palin.

Posted by: wankette at January 28, 2013 12:35 AM (kSBJy)

450 Too funny about the fracking. Cali has HUGE deposits offshore. Stupid libs just want to ignore it.

Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:35 AM (V70Uh)

451 What we have to prevent is a conversation 10 years from now that goes "I love Texas, but the lefties have turned this state into a broken corrupt shithole police state"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 12:35 AM (wwsoB)

452 I understand kbdabear. Its bittersweet to leave this place so beautiful and so corrupt. The bullshit never ends. Just when you think you just might get a little ahead...WHAM...here come Jerry Brown and the rest of the Sacramento thugs to shake what little change you have out of your pockets.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:35 AM (TCy/B)

453 Julianne Moore? Wasn't she a slut in "Hollywood Nights"?

Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:36 AM (V70Uh)

454 Not entirely positive of where, Cthulhu, but I am seriously considering either Texas, or Montana. Hell, even Arizona or New Mexico has to be a step up.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (3sZO1)

455 Posted by: MrCaniac at January 28, 2013 12:27 AM (Zd/NW

I used to have a drink ready for me, with a straw so i didn't have to pick it up. And yes, i was 'functional' during that time.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (sqp6o)

456 Bill H will do!

We are heading back east to my home state of PA. Family obligations. Mom will be 80 tomorrow and time is short. My family wants us home. Then we are looking to South Carolina.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (TCy/B)

457 Julianne Moore. Wasn't she also in that film "The Children of Men" that was a polar opposite of the book?




Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (V70Uh)

458
My Fam is 3rd GenCalibonya
My wife's side settled this state back in the early 1800's
I want to puke over what this former 6th largest GNP IN THE WORLD has become....
Can I puke in Jerry's face?

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (CM/vG)

459 So, where's everyone going? I'm down to a bunch of Metropolitan Statistical Areas in six states.....
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:33 AM (kaalw)
States are giving extra money to parents of kids whocan't read, yeah, we are in trouble.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:39 AM (EAAfY)

460 I miss the space program. America used to be able to do great things. Then the Liberals and the Media told us we were wasting money that could be better spent on welfare queens who sit on the couch complaining into their cell phones that the reason they only have 50" LED TVs is because of racism. Liberals ruin everything they touch and never seem to get any blame for it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 28, 2013 12:40 AM (xjpRj)

461 My best friend is still in Cali. I keep trying to edumacate him. Now that his Mom is dead, maybe we will finally convince him.

Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:40 AM (V70Uh)

462 454
Not entirely positive of where, Cthulhu, but I am seriously considering
either Texas, or Montana. Hell, even Arizona or New Mexico has to be a
step up.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (3sZO1)


I think I started with a different filter -- I first looked at "warm", so never considered Montana. And as for New Mexico? -- http://tinyurl.com/cxb4wzg

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:40 AM (kaalw)

463 I miss America being Great.



Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:40 AM (V70Uh)

464 Too funny about the fracking. Cali has HUGE deposits offshore. Stupid libs just want to ignore it.
Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:35 AM (V70Uh)


No, they aren't ignoring it Al. What they've done is allowed what happened in Santa Monica in 1968 to become one of their focal points about how eeeeeeeeevil off-shore drilling is. Never mind that the stuff bubbles up naturally all along the Los Angeles coastline.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:40 AM (3sZO1)

465 451 What we have to prevent is a conversation 10 years from now that goes "I love Texas, but the lefties have turned this state into a broken corrupt shithole police state"


Yep, and as i've said many times before here, anybody who thinks it can't happen is fooling themselves. All the major cities are dark blue now, even Dallas which was the last holdout. Illegals and blue staters are streaming in here in record numbers and the local lib blogs are just biding their time and waiting for when demographics tip this state blue, because it eventually will if things continue the way they've been.

Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 12:41 AM (HI6wa)

466 454 Not entirely positive of where, Cthulhu, but I am seriously considering either Texas, or Montana. Hell, even Arizona or New Mexico has to be a step up.
Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (3sZO1)

Bill, sadly you have to take New Mexico off the list. Ruined/corrupt with lefties

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:41 AM (EAAfY)

467

I lived in an apartment in Otay Mesa for a few months at the end of 1974.
I wonder what it's like there today.


Actually, I don't wonder. I can well imagine.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2013 12:42 AM (wUD5d)

468 456
Bill H will do!



We are heading back east to my home state of PA. Family obligations.
Mom will be 80 tomorrow and time is short. My family wants us home.
Then we are looking to South Carolina.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (TCy/B)


er....check the link @462 for SC.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:43 AM (kaalw)

469 456
You'll love SC. Look at the Greenville area. That's where BMW built n the 90's. it's been booming ever since.

Posted by: Tuna at January 28, 2013 12:43 AM (M/TDA)

470 Jerry brown thinks the tax increases are a great success! How deluded can a person be? He is also thrilled that the first segment of the much ballyhooed Brown Streak (high speed rail dontchaknow) will begin soon.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:43 AM (TCy/B)

471 465 451 What we have to prevent is a conversation 10 years from now that goes "I love Texas, but the lefties have turned this state into a broken corrupt shithole police state" Yep, and as i've said many times before here, anybody who thinks it can't happen is fooling themselves. All the major cities are dark blue now, even Dallas which was the last holdout. Illegals and blue staters are streaming in here in record numbers and the local lib blogs are just biding their time and waiting for when demographics tip this state blue, because it eventually will if things continue the way they've been.
Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 12:41 AM (HI6wa)

OK so what the fuck is Texas waiting for?

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:44 AM (EAAfY)

472 I miss the space program. America used to be able to do great things. Then the Liberals and the Media told us we were wasting money that could be better spent on welfare queens who sit on the couch complaining into their cell phones that the reason they only have 50" LED TVs is because of racism. Liberals ruin everything they touch and never seem to get any blame for it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 28, 2013 12:40 AM (xjpRj)


America is doing great things in Space, just not so much through the Federal government. American citizens are moving capitalism into Space. This is the very best thing to do.

Liberals want us to measure the USA by what the Federal Government does. What we are doing now via private enterprise is the true movement of America into Space.

Posted by: eman at January 28, 2013 12:44 AM (jp2Ur)

473 Hey mpfs you still here?? I have important news-

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 12:44 AM (XDC0v)

474 Geico cancelled a business's insurance "because he made parts for the gun industry"

Then you have leftist owned Progressive with Flo telling you to put their snoop device into your car and you MIGHT save a few bucks

Those who would trade security for liberty deserve neither

Those who would trade liberty to save a few bucks deserve to get bent over and plunged up the squeakhole with Flo's dildo

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 12:45 AM (wwsoB)

475
AZ is going purple and that scares the sh... shoelaces off of me ...Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2013 12:23 AM (TvO05)

Mrs. Guevara and I were (and to some extent, still are) thinking about fleeing to AZ (we've actually been out there house-hunting), but we're worried about the leftist infestation extending there next. If so, there's not much point in moving from a leftist-infested place with nice weather to a leftist-infested place with blazing summers.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:45 AM (IDSI7)

476 Bertram,
You wouldn't recognize Otay Mesa. So overbuilt and now empty. Even the gophers are illegal.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:46 AM (TCy/B)

477 Otay Mesa has "blossomed" into 4 and 5 bedroom houses. I have enjoyed playing the golf course.

Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:46 AM (V70Uh)

478
We are heading back east to my home state of PA. Family obligations. Mom will be 80 tomorrow and time is short. My family wants us home. Then we are looking to South Carolina.
Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (TCy/B)


Very cool. Happy Birthday to your mom.

Let's make this a clarion call then- all San Diego area morons interested.... aw hell, every one in SoCal, Oxnard south- show some interest. All y'all know where to sign up. We can figure out a place shortly. Just can't be Seau's anymore- that's now a church, and liable to spontaneously combusting if a horde of us shows up.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:46 AM (3sZO1)

479 Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:45 AM (IDSI7)

Tucson has been very liberal ... gun free zones everywhere ... including UofA where the guy used a knife and took out 4/5 fellow nursing students.

See gun free zones work! He used a knife!!

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2013 12:47 AM (TvO05)

480 I'm afraid to ask DAve.....

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:47 AM (TCy/B)

481 464
Too funny about the fracking. Cali has HUGE deposits offshore. Stupid libs just want to ignore it.

Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:35 AM (V70Uh)



No, they aren't ignoring it Al. What they've done is allowed what
happened in Santa Monica in 1968 to become one of their focal points
about how eeeeeeeeevil off-shore drilling is. Never mind that the stuff
bubbles up naturally all along the Los Angeles coastline.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:40 AM (3sZO1)


There was a "huge" oil well blowout in the Santa Barbara channel that was all over the news in 1969 -- same crap as the Deepwater Horizon, but in SoCal. Thing is, though, there is a city just south of SB called "Carpinteria" -- which got its name because, when the Spanish discovered it, the native Indians were building plank canoes and ***caulking the seams with tar naturally washed up on the beaches***.

I hate those lying bastards so much. "History begins when Progressives take over, and not one moment before."

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:47 AM (kaalw)

482
He is also thrilled that the first segment of the much ballyhooed Brown Streak (high speed rail dontchaknow) will begin soon. Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:43 AM (TCy/B)

Would that be the Chowchilla Express? That'll let people commute at high speed between Merced and Chowchilla, thereby removing a big bottleneck for lettuce pickers. And cheap at the price, a mere $100 billion. But what the hey, we've got lots of money anyway.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:48 AM (IDSI7)

483 Let's make this a clarion call then- all San Diego area morons interested.... aw hell, every one in SoCal, Oxnard south- show some interest. All y'all know where to sign up. We can figure out a place shortly. Just can't be Seau's anymore- that's now a church, and liable to spontaneously combusting if a horde of us shows up.
Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:46 AM (3sZO1)

WTH, I want a Vegas meet-up, otherwise it will be me and Political hat, nttawwt!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:49 AM (EAAfY)

484

"Then you have leftist owned Progressive with Flo telling you to put
their snoop device into your car and you MIGHT save a few bucks"


Am I the only one who thinks Flo looks like some kind of zombie with all of her white pancake makeup?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2013 12:49 AM (wUD5d)

485 HEY MPFS CHECK THIS OUT!!!: http://tinyurl.com/cczgfkm Mine work incredibly and i thought you'd be interested-

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 12:49 AM (XDC0v)

486
So then,
We few that are left here have to decide to either join the "Flee."
or...........(TBA)
I'm stuck here for now and kinda itching for a fight....

If not here, then where?
So goes Calibonya.....So goes the Union....maybe it is time.

FUCK OBAMA!!!!

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 12:49 AM (CM/vG)

487 Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 12:45 AM (wwsoB

Love the snoop device commercials.

Has anyone got a check for being a safe driver? Don't you have to pay more monthly to get in that program?

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2013 12:49 AM (sqp6o)

488 Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:41 AM (EAAfY)

I don't doubt what you're saying, Lou. But it has to be better than the complete clusterfuck California has become.

Texas is looking better and better all the time.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:50 AM (3sZO1)

489 470
Jerry brown thinks the tax increases are a great success! How deluded
can a person be? He is also thrilled that the first segment of the much
ballyhooed Brown Streak (high speed rail dontchaknow) will begin soon.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:43 AM

Oh boy, the 6 passengers a day taking that thing will be a family of illegals going from Tulare to Delano because the family Chevy Tahoe busted their suspension on that moonscape known as the 99 freeway

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 12:51 AM (wwsoB)

490 At Carpinteria/gaviota the oil tar seeps out of the cliff walls. So much oil at such high pressure

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 12:51 AM (XDC0v)

491 Read "Two Years Before the Mast" . Early California.

I remember the raw oil washing ashore. Very very very bad. Tar. sand. feet. ugh.

On the other hand, what did you think of the Pro Bowl?



Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:51 AM (V70Uh)

492
Tucson has been very liberal ... gun free zones everywhere ... including UofA where the guy used a knife and took out 4/5 fellow nursing students.Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2013 12:47 AM (TvO05)

The rot always starts at universities. It pains me as a retired academic, but it's true. The cancer begins there, and then metastasizes elsewhere.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:51 AM (IDSI7)

493 Oh, and for those who missed it @481....."Carpinteria" means "place of the carpenters" in Spanish. It's not like it's subtle or anything -- besides, you practically have to speak Spanish to get anything done in CA anymore.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:51 AM (kaalw)

494

... the first segment of the much ballyhooed Brown Streak (high speed rail dontchaknow) will begin soon.


I read an article a few hours ago ... it seems that CA has not yet bought / condemned / stolen the necessary land ...

Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2013 12:52 AM (3E35L)

495 Roses are red,
Strawberries are too...
& a cup of frozen strawberries is only about 50 calories. a fact which you would know, if you were on a calorie counting diet...
So Good Night, Morons & -ettes,
Good Night to all of you ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2013 12:52 AM (TvO05)

496 Flo is icky.


Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:52 AM (V70Uh)

497
Oh boy, the 6 passengers a day taking that thing will be a family of illegals going from Tulare to Delano because the family Chevy Tahoe busted their suspension on that moonscape known as the 99 freeway

Wait - is that a typo? Illegals in a Chevy Tahoe usually number 60, not 6.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:53 AM (IDSI7)

498 DAve,
Will this help me with the slide on my .45?

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:53 AM (TCy/B)

499 485 That and this make it possible for me to use semi-autos : http://tinyurl.com/ajml93n

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 12:54 AM (XDC0v)

500 Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:49 AM (EAAfY)


Prime place. Last time there i turned a 20 into 3600. Roullette baby!

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2013 12:54 AM (sqp6o)

501 The 99 is not a moonscape.

Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:54 AM (V70Uh)

502 There was a "huge" oil well blowout in the Santa Barbara channel that was all over the news in 1969 -- same crap as the Deepwater Horizon, but in SoCal. Thing is, though, there is a city just south of SB called "Carpinteria" -- which got its name because, when the Spanish discovered it, the native Indians were building plank canoes and ***caulking the seams with tar naturally washed up on the beaches***.

Sorry all. Thanks for the necessary correction, Cthulhu.

There was a carpet company here in SoCal many years called Carpeteria. I would drive by the city signs on my way up the 101 and laugh at the mental imagery.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:55 AM (3sZO1)

503 488 Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:41 AM (EAAfY) I don't doubt what you're saying, Lou. But it has to be better than the complete clusterfuck California has become. Texas is looking better and better all the time.
Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:50 AM (3sZO1)
Get your ass down there, buy land and keep the lib fuckfaces out! Tee Hee
Hubby and I so close tomoving to OK. Never thought I would leave NV because it has become a liberal shithole!!

And my local fucking news has a story on how to fucking strap your bratty kids in a carseat, Really. Tell the little shit to sit down, shut up and put the seatbelt on!. Damn parents, train your fucking kids..
Oh shit, did I say that?

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:55 AM (EAAfY)

504
I read an article a few hours ago ... it seems that CA has not yet bought / condemned / stolen the necessary land ...

Yeah, and that's out in Buttfuck County. But acquiring the necessary right of way in LA and SF to complete the goddamned thing will no problem at all. Probably cheap, too.

I'm waiting for some eco-assholes to find that the route goes over the habitat of some endangered cockroach or something. By the time the litigation ends, the cockroach will haveevolved into a Democrat Senator from CA.

Now that I think about it, that's not a big evolutionary leap. Probably take a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:56 AM (IDSI7)

505 OK so what the fuck is Texas waiting for?


If you mean why isn't it blue already it's because there still aren"t enough votes in the cities to override the rest of the state, but like i said, if things keep going the way they have that won't last.

Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 12:56 AM (HI6wa)

506 I lived at Hollywood Beach in Oxnard back in the day (1980). It was spectacular. No one on the beach, no traffic, good times. Then the LA people found it and destroyed it. Fuckers.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:57 AM (TCy/B)

507 We were on the fucking MOON.
That still blows my mind.

Posted by: fb at January 28, 2013 12:57 AM (qnMOL)

508 Too late. The Cockroach is already evolved into two U.S. Senator and a Governor and several other officials.


Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:58 AM (V70Uh)

509
And my local fucking news has a story on how to fucking strap your bratty kids in a carseat, Really. Tell the little shit to sit down, shut up and put the seatbelt on!

Back in the day there were no carseats, and yet somehow the species survived. Maybe the dinosaurs should've used car seats.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:58 AM (IDSI7)

510 498 Immensely. What manufacturer?

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 12:58 AM (XDC0v)

511 If you mean why isn't it blue already it's because there still aren"t enough votes in the cities to override the rest of the state, but like i said, if things keep going the way they have that won't last.
Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 12:56 AM (HI6wa)
True, aka Clark county NV

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:58 AM (EAAfY)

512 The environuts are already going after the Brown Streak. This is going to be worse than the Big Dig.

Thanks for the info DAve!

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 12:59 AM (TCy/B)

513 That Progressive insurance tracker thing is creepy as hell, even creepier is no one seems to think it's odd at all.

Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (HI6wa)

514 455
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 28, 2013 12:27 AM (Zd/NW



I used to have a drink ready for me, with a straw so i didn't have
to pick it up. And yes, i was 'functional' during that time.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2013 12:37 AM (sqp6o)

My sister was shocked when we went around our mom's house looking for her hidden stashes of booze. First she was shocked at all the places that I actually looked at, and how many of those places actually had booze hidden there. It really sucks when that is the person you have to put the booze into what is essentially a "sippy cup" for them to drink.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (Zd/NW)

515 502
There was a "huge" oil well blowout in the Santa Barbara channel that
was all over the news in 1969 -- same crap as the Deepwater Horizon,
but in SoCal. Thing is, though, there is a city just south of SB called
"Carpinteria" -- which got its name because, when the Spanish discovered
it, the native Indians were building plank canoes and ***caulking the
seams with tar naturally washed up on the beaches***.



Sorry all. Thanks for the necessary correction, Cthulhu.



There was a carpet company here in SoCal many years called
Carpeteria. I would drive by the city signs on my way up the 101 and
laugh at the mental imagery.



Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 12:55 AM (3sZO1)


It wasn't a correction, it was an elaboration -- not only do hydrocarbons bubble up all over SoCal (La Brea tar pits, anyone?), but they have been doing so for ***ALL OF THE RECORDED HISTORY OF THE AREA***

Speaking of which, and more of an aside -- the LA Farmers' Market is actually fairly close to the aforementioned tar pits. I nearly busted a gut a couple of decades back when someone tossed a lit cigarette too close to a crack in the sidewalk there -- and touched off a natural gas explosion that damaged a wall.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (kaalw)

516 Volunteering to install Progressive's Snapshot into your car to save a few bucks is like having Flo agree to be your girlfriend in exchange for wearing a tracking bracelet


Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (wwsoB)

517 Smith and Wesson MP

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 01:01 AM (TCy/B)

518 The 99 is not a moonscape.

Posted by: Al at January 28, 2013 12:54 AM (V70Uh)

Last time I was on the 99 (SB towards LA) was about 6 months ago. I wasn't able to get going fast enough to tell if it was a moonscape or not! Bumper-to-bumper from Fresno to Bakersfield, at maybe 10mph the entire fucking way. I'm just glad the a/c worked.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:01 AM (3sZO1)

519 512 Do you have a 1911?

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 01:01 AM (XDC0v)

520
The environuts are already going after the Brown Streak. This is going to be worse than the Big Dig.

Yep, and totally predictable (in fact, I did predict this back when).

If we ever have to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del on this republic, I propose that lawsuits be settled by single combat to the death between the lawyers. Then at leastwe'll get rid of half of them with every lawsuit.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 01:02 AM (IDSI7)

521

"Back in the day there were no carseats, and yet somehow the species survived. Maybe the dinosaurs should've used car seats."

They say the fittest shall survive, yet the unfit may live.

Are we not men?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2013 01:02 AM (wUD5d)

522 So, the HISTORIC ice storm called "Luna" has gone through the Midwest with all the fanfare of what you would call "January"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:03 AM (wwsoB)

523 Speaking of which -- the La Brea tar pits are proof positive that mankind has been polluting the environment.....since the time that mastodons roamed SoCal!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:03 AM (kaalw)

524 In 2010 we got fucked, and harry reid stole his senate seat, just my opinion!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:21 AM (EAAfY)


Reid will likely be out in '16. Gov. Sandoval is likely to run against him and squish him like he did Reid's son.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2013 01:03 AM (Vk2pI)

525
It wasn't a correction, it was an elaboration -- not only do hydrocarbons bubble up all over SoCal (La Brea tar pits, anyone?), but they have been doing so for ***ALL OF THE RECORDED HISTORY OF THE AREA***

I blame Bush.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 01:04 AM (IDSI7)

526 Tell the little shit to sit down, shut up and put the seatbelt on!. Damn parents, train your fucking kids..>>

Seat belts are for pussies.

(Another law you were led to believe was worth giving your freedom up for. It's not the job of the govt it's the job of the individual)

Posted by: Kid from the 60s flying around inthe back seat at January 28, 2013 01:04 AM (qo244)

527 517 Don't see it listed but if you order thru Amazon and it doesn't fit you can send it back- it's so worth it

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 01:04 AM (XDC0v)

528 God help us, Rory Reid? What a piece of shit just like the old man.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 01:05 AM (TCy/B)

529
They say the fittest shall survive, yet the unfit may live.

I like the windshield sun shades that solemnly tell people not to drive with the sun shade in place. If you're THAT fucking stupid, you SHOULD drive with it in place, just so long as you don't hit someone else or other higher primate.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 01:05 AM (IDSI7)

530 The penalties for not paying the Air Tax are pretty straightforward.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 12:22 AM (kaalw)


There are ways around that...

Posted by: President Skroob at January 28, 2013 01:06 AM (Vk2pI)

531 WTH, I want a Vegas meet-up, otherwise it will be me and Political hat, nttawwt!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:49 AM (EAAfY)


I'd be up for a moron meet-up.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2013 01:06 AM (Vk2pI)

532 516
Volunteering to install Progressive's Snapshot into your car to save a
few bucks is like having Flo agree to be your girlfriend in exchange for
wearing a tracking bracelet




Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (wwsoB)


***snicker***

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:06 AM (kaalw)

533 If we ever have to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del on this republic, I propose that lawsuits be settled by single combat to the death between the lawyers. Then at leastwe'll get rid of half of them with every lawsuit.


Oh, oh, oh, can I be the first to volunteer my boss for that?

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 01:08 AM (bzOLE)

534 That Progressive insurance tracker thing is creepy as hell, even creepier is no one seems to think it's odd at all.
Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (HI6wa)


Creepy enough that the feds are looking at this and other telemetric devices with great interest. Creepy enough that if they do decide to charge on mileage rather than by gallon of gas, I will be quite happy to buy something old car without a 12 or 16 pin ALDL.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:08 AM (3sZO1)

535 Hey Lou!

I'm listening to George Knapp right now on Coast to Coast.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs, cromulcalifragilisticexpialidocious at January 28, 2013 01:08 AM (TCy/B)

536 511
If you mean why isn't it blue already it's because there still aren"t
enough votes in the cities to override the rest of the state, but like i
said, if things keep going the way they have that won't last.

Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 12:56 AM (HI6wa)

True, aka Clark county NV

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:58 AM (EAAfY)

NoVA here in Virginia. When West Virginia flipped from Dem to GOP, we started to change from GOP to Dem. In state elections, I am pretty confident that we will be GOP, but the DC teet gets suckled by NoVa pretty hard.

It is almost as if they want big Federal govt, then a small state government to offset the cost.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 28, 2013 01:08 AM (Zd/NW)

537 521


"Back in the day there were no carseats, and yet somehow the species survived. Maybe the dinosaurs should've used car seats."

They say the fittest shall survive, yet the unfit may live.

Are we not men?




Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2013 01:02 AM (wUD5d)


The only answer to that question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3KTg3jhFk

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:09 AM (kaalw)

538 "like having Flo agree to be your girlfriend in exchange for

wearing a tracking bracelet"


Yeah, a tracker with faulty wiring. Around your penis. That is about five sizes too tight. And that "accidentally" shocks you at least four times daily. Especially whenever you need to fap.

Posted by: Happy Progressive Customer at January 28, 2013 01:09 AM (7B7jB)

539 Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (kaalw)

Well, the whole thing was I confused Santa Barbara with Santa Monica. That's a fair sized distance to screw up.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:11 AM (3sZO1)

540
I still hope for the day that central Calibonya will man up and slay the coastal libs......

I still hope....
Sacramento....we may still have to just nuke and be done with it.....

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:11 AM (CM/vG)

541 I hate "Progressive" Insurance, and that cocksucker Peter Lewis who runs it. He's happy to make money from capitalism, but wants to undermine it - once he's set, of course. Prick.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 01:12 AM (IDSI7)

542 526 Tell the little shit to sit down, shut up and put the seatbelt on!. Damn parents, train your fucking kids..>>Seat belts are for pussies. (Another law you were led to believe was worth giving your freedom up for. It's not the job of the govt it's the job of the individual)
Posted by: Kid from the 60s flying around inthe back seat at January 28, 2013 01:04 AM (qo244)
Well, I agree, but kid in no seatbelt is about $500 so unless you can talk the uptight cop out of giving you the ticket, then strap the little shit in, but dont use 20 minutes on the local news on how to talk your special kid, because they are all unique and perfect, ack, kidinto the carseat.

And I and six siblings rode on the side of the truck with my dad hauling ass, but back then, my dad could get away with it, now he would be in jail.....

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:12 AM (EAAfY)

543
I still hope....
Sacramento....we may still have to just nuke and be done with it.....Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:11 AM (CM/vG)


I'm holding out hope that al Qaeda will decide to make it up to us and do us a solid.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 01:14 AM (IDSI7)

544

Are we not men?






Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2013 01:02 AM (wUD5d)


The only answer to that question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3KTg3jhFk



Then there is this :
Are we not men?



Or this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMhwddNQSWQ




Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2013 01:14 AM (wUD5d)

545 531 WTH, I want a Vegas meet-up, otherwise it will be me and Political hat, nttawwt! Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 12:49 AM (EAAfY) I'd be up for a moron meet-up.
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2013 01:06 AM (Vk2pI)

Iwould be the campaign manager, but I have skeletons in the closet..

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:14 AM (EAAfY)

546 2013 AOS Vegas Meetup eh?

Any chance it could be in August? (I admit, I like hot weather.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 01:15 AM (7B7jB)

547 534
That Progressive insurance tracker thing is creepy as hell, even creepier is no one seems to think it's odd at all.

Posted by: booger at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (HI6wa)



Creepy enough that the feds are looking at this and other telemetric
devices with great interest. Creepy enough that if they do decide to
charge on mileage rather than by gallon of gas, I will be quite happy to
buy something old car without a 12 or 16 pin ALDL.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:08 AM (3sZO1)

The libtards are now freaking out in Virginia because McDonnell has decided to scrap the gas tax and increase the sales tax. It is supposed to raise the same amount of money, but instead of having the gas tax bumped up to cover improved MPG, the sales tax will just be able to raise more money based on inflation.

The libs are going on about how it will hurt the poor blah blah blah, and we need money dedicated for the roads. Somebody forgot to tell them that they have been raiding that fund for decades to build all kinds of airports, seaports, choo choo trains, and bus terminals instead of using it to build and maintain roads.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 28, 2013 01:17 AM (Zd/NW)

548 And I and six siblings rode on the side of the truck with my dad hauling
ass, but back then, my dad could get away with it, now he would be in
jail.....>>

Which was my point little by little "for safety" we have turned over the responsibilities of protecting our children to the govt. Now the new gun laws are us turning the responsibilities of protecting ourselves may be turned over to the govt.

The nick of kids flying around the back seat was meant in fun not danger.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:17 AM (qo244)

549 I'm your Progressive spying device and one of my faulty chips has instructed your ECM to floor it on a narrow mountain road .... yeee haaahhhh ....

Think your big brother device will save you on expenses in the emergency room burn unit?

Get Allstate and protect yourself from mayhem ... like me

Posted by: Allstate Mayhem Guy at January 28, 2013 01:18 AM (wwsoB)

550 539
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:00 AM (kaalw)



Well, the whole thing was I confused Santa Barbara with Santa Monica. That's a fair sized distance to screw up.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:11 AM (3sZO1)


Well, the tar pits are roughly 10 miles inland from Santa Monica. It's not like you were in a different time zone. And Carpinteria is only 72 miles up the coast.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:19 AM (kaalw)

551 2013 AOS Vegas Meetup eh?

Any chance it could be in August? (I admit, I like hot weather.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 01:15 AM (7B7jB)


True, but since there will be ladies present, we can't use that as an excuse to not have pants on...

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2013 01:19 AM (Vk2pI)

552 542
526 Tell the little shit to sit down, shut up and put the seatbelt on!.
Damn parents, train your fucking kids..>>Seat belts are for
pussies. (Another law you were led to believe was worth giving your
freedom up for. It's not the job of the govt it's the job of the
individual)

Posted by: Kid from the 60s flying around inthe back seat at January 28, 2013 01:04 AM (qo244)

Well, I agree, but kid in no seatbelt is about $500 so unless you
can talk the uptight cop out of giving you the ticket, then strap the
little shit in, but dont use 20 minutes on the local news on how to talk
your special kid, because they are all unique and perfect, ack, kidinto
the carseat.



And I and six siblings rode on the side of the truck with my dad
hauling ass, but back then, my dad could get away with it, now he would
be in jail.....

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:12 AM (EAAfY)
One good smack across the ass is worth a thousand words.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 01:20 AM (+OTLF)

553 543

I still hope....
Sacramento....we may still have to just nuke and be done with it.....Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:11 AM (CM/vG)

I'm holding out hope that al Qaeda will decide to make it up to us and do us a solid.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 01:14 AM (IDSI7)


Impossible to get this out there enough, never mind "too much" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8vmaj75xzE

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:21 AM (kaalw)

554 One good smack across the ass is worth a thousand words.>>

Yes that kept us sitting but since no seat belt was available it's odd any of us survived.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:22 AM (qo244)

555 "True, but since there will be ladies present, we can't use that as an excuse to not have pants on..."

"But baby, it's Vegas! In AUGUST!!!1! You don't want me to SUFFOCATE now do ya??!?..."

Plus I'd assume as it's an AOS mixer, there will be plenty of liquor to loosen the ladies up...

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 01:22 AM (7B7jB)

556 You know we've become a nation of idiots when the MSM has to put on an "expert" to tell us what to do after a collision in bad weather.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:22 AM (wwsoB)

557
And I and six siblings rode on the side of the
truck with my dad hauling ass, but back then, my dad could get away with
it, now he would be in jail.....

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:12 AM (EAAfY)

Our next door neighbor growing up was a local judge, his five kids and my sister and I were best friends. He would take all of us for ice cream in his VW Beetle. 7 kids in a car like that. Oh, and if he decided to take the family station wagon, the tailgate was down with 3 or 4 of us sitting on it with our legs hanging down flipping up and down as we went over the train tracks. Can't see the cops being lenient to him even if he was a judge.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 28, 2013 01:23 AM (Zd/NW)

558 Evening all. Short shift at work tonight, yippee.

What'd I miss?

Posted by: DC in Towson, assault human at January 28, 2013 01:24 AM (jIaZt)

559 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2013 01:14 AM (wUD5d)


Wait, wasn't that the same band?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:24 AM (kaalw)

560
I had the priv. of being in Vegas for a Marine Corps Ball with my son.
I think I could handlean AOSHQ meet up......
jus sayin.....

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:26 AM (CM/vG)

561 MrCaniac: your 1:23a reminds me of the 1970s-era Subaru Brat. Remember that thing? A truck with two seatbelt-free plastic seats... MOUNTED RIGHT SMACK IN THE FREAKIN' OPEN-TOP TRUCK BED.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 01:26 AM (7B7jB)

562 Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:12 AM (EAAfY) One good smack across the ass is worth a thousand words.
Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 28, 2013 01:20 AM (+OTLF)

My dad was a belt guy, yeah. Thanks dad, I Love and Miss you.
Grocery store, completely out of control kids, I told them to knock it the hell off. The mom looked at me like she was gonna say something, I guess the look I gave her was enough, she corrected her kids and moved along.

And If Stephen Dorff is smoking a fake cigarette, count me the fuck out. Gonna go smoke a real cig, the kind that will kill me!! Fuck you bloomburg, obama, etc.. Tee Hee

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:26 AM (EAAfY)

563 In the mid 70s me and my 5 siblings would take the 3 hour trip to our cabin in the back of a pickup sitting on beanbag chairs. Worse yet using a sunflower heater to keep warm.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:28 AM (qo244)

564 The problem with MSM experts telling idiots how to keep from killing themselves is that it interferes with Darwin's design to keep the population of imbeciles at a manageable level. It also gets leftists reelected over and over


Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:28 AM (wwsoB)

565 Wait, wasn't that the same band?
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:24 AM (kaalw)


I think that was the GOP anthem, about 20 years too early.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:28 AM (3sZO1)

566 Hehe. Mom always carried a wooden spoon. While racing down the 405 to grandma's she would swing that spoon in the back seat where we were sitting and say, Now, do something and see what happens.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 01:30 AM (bzOLE)

567 someone tossed a lit cigarette too close to a crack in the sidewalk there -- and touched off a natural gas explosion that damaged a wall.

Shit, La Brea was on fire. I still remember watching the burning sidewalks on the news.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 28, 2013 01:30 AM (D5J/S)

568
553
Did not mean to mess with the brain train......my bad!

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:31 AM (CM/vG)

569 Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 01:30 AM (bzOLE)

Heh. "While racing down the 405...". You have to be reasonably lucky today to be able to do that today. I've found Sunday mornings are best.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:33 AM (3sZO1)

570 Ice storm is supposed to hit the Northeast tomorrow

Can't wait for Nanny Bloomberg to give a press conference indicating he doesn't know enough about driving to know which pedal is the brake.

Then you'll have Gov ChrispyCreme bellowing "STAY OFFA THUH ROADS"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:33 AM (wwsoB)

571 567
someone tossed a lit cigarette too close to a crack in the sidewalk
there -- and touched off a natural gas explosion that damaged a wall.



Shit, La Brea was on fire. I still remember watching the burning sidewalks on the news.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 28, 2013 01:30 AM (D5J/S)



BBD!!! How ya doin'?!??

You sit there in the Observation Pit -- which always reeked -- watching those bubbles come up around the mastodon bones.....and you were supposed to believe that all hydrocarbons on earth were pollution caused by humans?!?!? Puh-leaze! If you roamed the grounds, you could find little 3" tar pits popping up through the grass.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:34 AM (kaalw)

572 Heh. "While racing down the 405...". You have to be
reasonably lucky today to be able to do that today. I've found Sunday
mornings are best.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:33 AM

Like 2 in the morning. You can make good time north of Victory Blvd in The Valley most times on the weekend however



Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:35 AM (wwsoB)

573
567
Often wondered, the flames coming out of the curbs were so sureal...

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:35 AM (CM/vG)

574 "If you roamed the grounds, you could find little 3" tar pits popping up through the grass."

As bad as that is, I can top it. Anybody here actually been to Lassen Volcanic National Park in Northern California?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 01:35 AM (7B7jB)

575 Bill H - Yea, that was back in the old days. I think the 405 was still fairly new. Grew up in HB from '62 to '75 then got relocated to CO.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 01:37 AM (bzOLE)

576 560 I had the priv. of being in Vegas for a Marine Corps Ball with my son.I think I could handlean AOSHQ meet up......jus sayin.....
Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:26 AM (CM/vG)
Depending on how many people show up, I know some fun places to go.
But the best thing about Vegas is the crazy arab cab drivers, we call them when we drink too much, but damn if they are not the most terrifying drivers on the planet! They actually hit sidewalks/curbs on purpose and hate us even though we tip really respectfully!

Love all the when we were kids stories, how the hell did we survive without helicoptor parents. My Mom and Dad did not want to see us until dinnertime, damn I wish my kid and her kid could have grown up when I did, so sad really.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:37 AM (EAAfY)

577 With the info I have I would made my kids wear seat belts. But why the fuck can they give me a ticket for me not wearing one? I can skydive, swim with the sharks, ride a motorcycle without a helmet... Why the fuck is me wearing a seat belt against the law?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:38 AM (qo244)

578
One thing that always amazed me about people who "came out here" was that they had no idea California existed or that anyone lived here before the day they arrived. I usually assume it has something to do with LSD.


Posted by: Californio at January 28, 2013 01:39 AM (2eIwi)

579 Coothie!!!!!!

Hey, I should go to the tar pits now that i can enjoy my funemployment. Haven't been there in years. I've always loved going there. I like when the unsuspecting tourists step in the tar oozing up in the grass behind the museums. Bbbwwwwaaaahhhh, watch where you're walking asshats, its posted!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 28, 2013 01:39 AM (D5J/S)

580 577 With the info I have I would made my kids wear seat belts. But why the fuck can they give me a ticket for me not wearing one? I can skydive, swim with the sharks, ride a motorcycle without a helmet... Why the fuck is me wearing a seat belt against the law?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:38 AM (qo244)

Because the gubmint gets money from you. That's the only reason.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 01:40 AM (7xPCu)

581 Always liked using the 210 if I wanted to open it up a bit, the 2 Freeway is usually pretty clear too


Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:41 AM (wwsoB)

582 Like 2 in the morning. You can make good time north of Victory Blvd in The Valley most times on the weekend however



Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:35 AM (wwsoB)


Yah, pretty much. Although, I did make good time all the way up from where the 405 crosses the 5 all the way up to that point, then I had to switch over to the 101 (I was on my way to Agoura Hills) last Sunday morning.It was about 10:00 when I got towards Victory Blvd.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:42 AM (3sZO1)

583 Whatever you all are up to tonight, just cut that out. It's bad for you. I'm watching! -TFG, the anti-Ace

Posted by: Mindfulguy at January 28, 2013 01:42 AM (uHgI5)

584 574
"If you roamed the grounds, you could find little 3" tar pits popping up through the grass."

As bad as that is, I can top it. Anybody here actually been to Lassen Volcanic National Park in Northern California?


Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 01:35 AM (7B7jB)


Been by, but not stopped -- thing is, current Progressive dogma is that hydrocarbons are De Ebbil!!! and most likely discharged by that Satan, "Booooosh" (although some of his other demons, like Cheney or Henry Ford, might also be responsible). This makes the mental disconnect with "hydrocarbons are naturally occurring substances that have been around for millenia, can be burned or degraded by bacteria, and form yet another carbon pathway in our complex and robust ecosystem" that much more poignant.

Fumaroles are just naturally occurring smoking pits that emit smog worse than ten thousand automobiles or coal power plants. No mental gyrations at all, there.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:43 AM (kaalw)

585 Hah, that reminds me of when my little brother buried all the wooden spoons in the yard somewhere to avoid punishment. Not figuring that that very act might cause more punishment. Can't remember what happened.

Posted by: kalneva at January 28, 2013 01:43 AM (S+/pH)

586 577
With the info I have I would made my kids wear seat belts. But why the
fuck can they give me a ticket for me not wearing one? I can skydive,
swim with the sharks, ride a motorcycle without a helmet... Why the fuck
is me wearing a seat belt against the law?


Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:38 AM (qo244)


They only have to cave you in on something to show they own you. Doesn't matter what.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:44 AM (kaalw)

587 Kalneva- That's funny.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 01:47 AM (bzOLE)

588 Been by, but not stopped -- thing is, current Progressive dogma is that hydrocarbons are De Ebbil!!! and most likely discharged by that Satan, "Booooosh" (although some of his other demons, like Cheney or Henry Ford, might also be responsible). This makes the mental disconnect with "hydrocarbons are naturally occurring substances that have been around for millenia, can be burned or degraded by bacteria, and form yet another carbon pathway in our complex and robust ecosystem" that much more poignant.Fumaroles are just naturally occurring smoking pits that emit smog worse than ten thousand automobiles or coal power plants. No mental gyrations at all, there.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:43 AM (kaalw)

I ask the hippie eco-swine why they hate petroleum, because it comes from mother earth packed with organic wholesomeness and junk, so what's not to love? Oh, right...it allows the masses to access freedom of movement and a bit of independence that they seek to curtail. Goddamned useful idiots.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 01:47 AM (7xPCu)

589 I lived in LA all those years and never visited the Tar Pits. I guess I stepped in enough sandy tar visiting the Jersey Shore when I was young

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:48 AM (wwsoB)

590 583 Whatever you all are up to tonight, just cut that out. It's bad for you. I'm watching! -TFG, the anti-Ace
Posted by: Mindfulguy at January 28, 2013 01:42 AM (uHgI5)

But we don't have to get off your lawn, do we?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 01:49 AM (7xPCu)

591 Just watched Serenity again since it was on and it is awesome. And the liberal PAX laws they are trying to save us with are killing us at an alarming rate.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:49 AM (qo244)

592 579
Coothie!!!!!!



Hey, I should go to the tar pits now that i can enjoy my
funemployment. Haven't been there in years. I've always loved going
there. I like when the unsuspecting tourists step in the tar oozing up
in the grass behind the museums. Bbbwwwwaaaahhhh, watch where you're
walking asshats, its posted!



Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 28, 2013 01:39 AM (D5J/S)


It's one of the things that I'd recommend any visitor to LA to see, 'cause otherwise you just don't "get it".

Another favorite is the juxtaposition -- go in the morning to see the Assyrian reliefs at LACMA, go in the afternoon to the Citadel Outlet Stores in the old Uniroyal plant off the 5.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:50 AM (kaalw)

593 Sheesh, copied another comment on my last comment, hubby told me I was fired up on a sunday night, sorry. Smoked a cig. Calming down.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:50 AM (EAAfY)

594 I lived in LA all those years and never visited the Tar Pits. I guess I stepped in enough sandy tar visiting the Jersey Shore when I was young

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:48 AM (wwsoB)


the ocean in SoCal leaks oil


tar balls galore back in the 70's when I used to visit there


btw
pissed in the sand in soCal as a 10yo


take thay you enviro wankers....

Posted by: Jake in ID at January 28, 2013 01:51 AM (jfSqj)

595 Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 01:37 AM (bzOLE)

I started traveling the LA area not very long after I came back out here with my family in '77. All I knew was the 5 then, everything else was a mystery where I could easily get lost!

Always liked using the 210 if I wanted to open it up a bit, the 2 Freeway is usually pretty clear too


Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 01:41 AM (wwsoB)


The 210 is an excellent way to travel from Redlands to Sylmar, just so long as you pay attention to the 210/134 changeover in Pasadena! I have several friends who live along that route. Rush hour can be a pain, though.

Also, I've found that the 5 to 2, and on into Echo Park is immensely better than fighting with the 101 through downtown.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:52 AM (3sZO1)

596 585 Hah, that reminds me of when my little brother buried all the wooden spoons in the yard somewhere to avoid punishment. Not figuring that that very act might cause more punishment. Can't remember what happened.
Posted by: kalneva at January 28, 2013 01:43 AM (S+/pH)

Probably got his ass beat!

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:53 AM (EAAfY)

597
576
Just for you....

2 Days,2 night, 800+ of America's best getting there dues and the BALL Night was a night of nights with all those effin AWESOME men in their Dress Blues and their Ladies on arm......TEARS.....effin TEARS!!!
PROUD PAPPA and hurting for the parents who came to give respect to their own sons that did not make it back from the tour....yet still came to the ball.

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:54 AM (CM/vG)

598 Probably got his ass beat!>>

With a belt!

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:54 AM (qo244)

599 Much as I can mock them, the Assyrian reliefs at LACMA lead directly to my favorite part of the British Museum in London today being the Assyrian Lion Hunt...despite having moved away from LA County in the 80s and visiting London only occasionally.




I hope that the reliefs continue to inspire kids on field-trips today.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:56 AM (kaalw)

600 Ah, the tar pits, Busch Gardens, old Knott's Berry Farm, Olvera street, Lion Country Safari. Miss those days. Not sure what is still there. I seem to also remember a place that was orential, gardens and tea. don't remember the name.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 01:56 AM (bzOLE)

601 598 Probably got his ass beat!>>With a belt!
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 28, 2013 01:54 AM (qo244)
Yep, teehee,gonnago listen to music. Night all. Sorry if i got too crazy for a sunday nght ont.

God Bless.

Posted by: lou's a girl at January 28, 2013 01:57 AM (EAAfY)

602 Ahhhh... late Sunday night.

I know it's weird, but Sunday night is my favorite night to stay up really late. It just feels... "forbidden" somehow. The lack of anything halfway decent to watch on TV late on Sunday just helps confirm it.

One of the benefits of "funemployment" I guess...

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 01:58 AM (7B7jB)

603 OMG, Busch Gardens & Lion Country Safari were awesome

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 28, 2013 01:59 AM (D5J/S)

604 ...go in the afternoon to the Citadel Outlet Stores in the old Uniroyal plant off the 5.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 01:50 AM (kaalw)


Gotta admit, that was an absolutely amazing transformation of the property. It's one of the few genuinely attractive sites along the 5 in the LA area. I personally think it could do with less signage, but that's just me.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:59 AM (3sZO1)

605 597

576
Just for you....

2 Days,2 night, 800+ of America's
best getting there dues and the BALL Night was a night of nights with
all those effin AWESOME men in their Dress Blues and their Ladies on
arm......TEARS.....effin TEARS!!!
PROUD PAPPA and hurting for the
parents who came to give respect to their own sons that did not make it
back from the tour....yet still came to the ball.

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 01:54 AM (CM/vG)



Lord, may we all be worthy of those in service to our nation.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 02:00 AM (kaalw)

606 I seem to also remember a place that was orential, gardens and tea. don't remember the name.

Oooh, Japanese Gardens? We had pictures from there on the collage from my mom's funeral. I remember the goats in the petting zoo nibbling on the ribbon in my sister's hair.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 28, 2013 02:00 AM (D5J/S)

607 Also, I've found that the 5 to 2, and on into Echo Park is immensely better than fighting with the 101 through downtown.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 01:52 AM

I used to commute from LAX to Los Feliz every day with one job I had 12 years ago. The 110 N is a crawl anytime during business hours from the 405 to the tunnels north of Downtown

I didn't want to do stoplight traffic through da hood, so I suffered the 110 to 6th ave, up a few blocks on Fig to cross over, went to 1st to Glendale. Once I got north of the 101 overpass it wasn't bad. This was mid afternoon though

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:00 AM (wwsoB)

608 'Nite, Lou.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 02:01 AM (3sZO1)

609 600
Ah, the tar pits, Busch Gardens, old Knott's Berry Farm, Olvera street,
Lion Country Safari. Miss those days. Not sure what is still there. I
seem to also remember a place that was orential, gardens and tea. don't
remember the name.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 01:56 AM (bzOLE)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Village_and_Deer_Park

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 02:02 AM (kaalw)

610 Our old ONT friend Rum used to brag about going from Grenada Hills to Disneyland in 45 minutes. Don't know how she did it other than confidence she could talk a cop out of a ticket

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:02 AM (wwsoB)

611 Looks like it's still open (let's see if the link will go through):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Japanese_Garden

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:02 AM (7B7jB)

612 Yep, that's it. Japanese Gardens were beautiful. I was lucky to have great parents and a great childhood. Used to spend Easter vacation and a few weeks in the summer with grandparents in Palm Desert.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:03 AM (bzOLE)

613 Ah, now I see. Buena Park JG closed, Van Nuys JG open.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:04 AM (7B7jB)

614 no, i don't think thats it qdpsteve

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 28, 2013 02:05 AM (D5J/S)

615 Lion Country Safari was gone long before I moved to CA. It was on a SoCal PBS (KCET) special called "Things That Aren't Here Anymore"

http://tinyurl.com/abw8yqj




Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:06 AM (wwsoB)

616
Busch Gardens...
Some of the original South American Green Parrots that escaped back in the day, still roam the San Fernando Valley......no shit!

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:07 AM (CM/vG)

617 I loved riding up the PCH to Big Sur, a fantastic drive

You could almost forget the fucknuts who run the state

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:09 AM (wwsoB)

618
610
And what of our Dear Friend "RUM" these days?

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:09 AM (CM/vG)

619 Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 02:02 AM (kaalw)

Thanks cthulhu, that's it. If I remember correctly, my other grandma took me there. It was truly beautiful.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:02 AM (7B7jB)

I know it wasn't that one, I have to confess to dating myself. But thanks for the info. It looks very nice.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:10 AM (bzOLE)

620
610
I think you ment "Granada Hills."

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:11 AM (CM/vG)

621 Leaving l.a. is for quitters!!! I work in Watts

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 02:11 AM (XDC0v)

622 I like SW FL from Clearwater to Naples

I just wish there were some mountains

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:12 AM (wwsoB)

623 I used to commute from LAX to Los Feliz every day with one job I had 12 years ago. The 110 N is a crawl anytime during business hours from the 405 to the tunnels north of Downtown

I didn't want to do stoplight traffic through da hood, so I suffered the 110 to 6th ave, up a few blocks on Fig to cross over, went to 1st to Glendale. Once I got north of the 101 overpass it wasn't bad. This was mid afternoon though

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:00 AM (wwsoB)


Ouch. I would rather shave my balls with an industrial water well drill than suffer the 110. I avoid it at any and all costs. I go to LA frequently, but most everyplace I go is accessible from the 5, 405, or the 210, with occasional bouts on the 134 or the 2. Maybe the 605 if I'm feeling like mixing it up a bit.

Oddly enough, whenever I lived in LA or Orange county, I was always lucky enough that my commute was the opposite of the rush hour traffic.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 02:12 AM (3sZO1)

624
602 Ahhhh... late Sunday night.I know it's weird, but Sunday night is my favorite night to stay up really late. It just feels... "forbidden" somehow. The lack of anything halfway decent to watch on TV late on Sunday just helps confirm it.One of the benefits of "funemployment" I guess...
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 01:58 AM (7B7jB)


Maybe its the fact that you know you should be working the next day that gives you that "forbidden" feeling. Of course being funemployed renders that moot.

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2013 02:14 AM (GULKT)

625 But The Pantry is off of the 110!!!

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 02:14 AM (XDC0v)

626 620

610
I think you ment "Granada Hills."

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:11 AM

Always did spell that wrong, a good friend of mine still lives there

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:15 AM (wwsoB)

627 The thing people need to get about all that once was, is not just the individual thing -- Marineland, the SaMo pier, Japanese Village, Lion Country Safari, etc., etc., etc.......but that there was a land so fertile for ideals that these things could flash from idea to physical existence there. Disneyland is still there -- it was built in a year! Knott's Berry Farm is still there!



Head out to Palmdale, and the SR-71 crystallized a dream into a real object -- a plane whose controlled flight was faster than a bullet. The U-2 was close to a satellite in the atmosphere.



Nothing was impossible, materials and processes were to be conquered or just worked around. That was California in her prime.




Way back then. When I was a kid.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 02:15 AM (kaalw)

628 "I just wish there were some mountains"

Repurposed old strip mines work too.

Posted by: derit at January 28, 2013 02:15 AM (I88Jc)

629
Are you guys talking about the Japanese Tea Gardens in Golden Gate Park? I didn't realize there was a Japanese Garden in L.A.

Fortune cookies, Koi and bridges. And Buffalo down the street.

Posted by: Californio at January 28, 2013 02:16 AM (2eIwi)

630 March AFB in Riverside hjas a SR-71 on display. And a b-52, and a f-14, and f-4's, and...

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 02:16 AM (XDC0v)

631 Night everyone.

Here is "Walking in L.A." by Mission Persons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_UpLtGEWoY

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2013 02:17 AM (Vk2pI)

632 buzzion: the feeling you describe probably explains a lot of it. I am still searching for work, however. Overall, "funemployment" definitely has more than worn out its welcome with me.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:17 AM (7B7jB)

633
Ther are times when I still like to take my little folks down to Olveria Street
or maybe up toPhlippe's for a French Dip sandwhich.

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:20 AM (CM/vG)

634 Ouch. I would rather shave my balls with an
industrial water well drill than suffer the 110. I avoid it at any and
all costs. I go to LA frequently, but most everyplace I go is accessible
from the 5, 405, or the 210, with occasional bouts on the 134 or the 2.
Maybe the 605 if I'm feeling like mixing it up a bit.



Oddly enough, whenever I lived in LA or Orange county, I was always
lucky enough that my commute was the opposite of the rush hour traffic.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 02:12 AM

I worked on Sawtelle Blvd on in West LA too. No damn quick way to get there unless you have a police chopper

I used to tell people to just send my mail to the 10, that's where I was spending most of my life

Tried Santa Monica Blvd, but fucking Beverly Hills has a light every 10 ft because the lawyers and Persian restaurant owners don't want to have to jump out into traffic

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:20 AM (wwsoB)

635
632 buzzion: the feeling you describe probably explains a lot of it. I am still searching for work, however. Overall, "funemployment" definitely has more than worn out its welcome with me.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:17 AM (7B7jB)


Yep, I certainly hated it. I didn't really care for doing nothing all day and yet still getting some money. And even after starting to work again I actually like earning money and ending up taking less home because of taxes. I also got very annoyed at people who thought I enjoyed being "funemployed" after I got back to working.

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2013 02:20 AM (GULKT)

636 Who's the moron who went to Tony's Darts Away in Burbank, pissed the lefty owner off by asking him to put Fox News on?

I wanted to hold a Moron Meetup there before I moved just to piss him off

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:24 AM (wwsoB)

637 Funny. They just showed the sidewalks on fire in LA with methane gas. On H2.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:25 AM (bzOLE)

638
626
Send her my best....

If you please.....

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:25 AM (CM/vG)

639 La Brea tar pits? I thought Tommy Lee Jones and Ann Heche torched the place.

That was such an uplifting movie.

Posted by: Enby at January 28, 2013 02:25 AM (ptlfZ)

640 You know what I miss, since there seems to be a bit of reminiscing going on about what used to be here? Orange blossoms. The overpowering scent of orange blossoms, traveling the 5 through Irvine. All that productive farmland became industrial land. The money was just too much to pass up.


Fucking Christ, this state- not just it's politicians- has it's priorities completely, irretrievably fucked up.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 02:25 AM (3sZO1)

641 One thing I found out the hard way ....

"Unemployed and living in Los Angeles is no way to go through life, son ... "


Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:26 AM (wwsoB)

642 Right buzzion. After so long subsisting on unemployment bennies (and thankfully the help of my family to fill in the rest), these days I find I have to figure out ways to mentally rub off the weird "government-owned" feeling I get occasionally.

Stepping up my efforts to find jobs and going to employment fairs help... but, damn this stagnant economy. I admit, at this stage I'd love it if I could start looking/applying for jobs in Nevada, Arizona, or even Utah or Texas. However, virtually the entirety of my family is here (and still gainfully employed somehow) in SoCal.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:26 AM (7B7jB)

643 629

Are you guys talking about the Japanese Tea Gardens in Golden Gate Park? I didn't realize there was a Japanese Garden in L.A.

Fortune cookies, Koi and bridges. And Buffalo down the street.


Posted by: Californio at January 28, 2013 02:16 AM (2eIwi)


There are quite a few Japanese gardens downstate. The one at the Huntington is outstanding ( http://www.huntington.org/huntingtonlibrary.aspx?id=512 ).

The one in Saratoga -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakone_Gardens -- at 18 acres is much larger than the one in Golden Gate Park -- http://japaneseteagardensf.com/about-us.php -- which is about 5 acres. It is also of much finer construction, being less of a public exhibition and more of an enthusiasts' creation.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 02:28 AM (kaalw)

644 kbdabear, link?

Going to the waaaayy back machine, does anyone remember the gold fish farm in Westminster on the border of Huntington Beach? Cabbage patches too in HB. Westminster mall now resides on the gold fish farm property.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:30 AM (bzOLE)

645 ...or maybe up to Phlippe's for a French Dip sandwich.
Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:20 AM (CM/vG)


A good friend of mine is an enthusiastic customer there. It doesn't take much convincing to get him to go there, or to Astro on Glendale Blvd. when I see him.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 02:30 AM (3sZO1)

646 DAG on Carolla: priceless

Posted by: derit at January 28, 2013 02:31 AM (I88Jc)

647 Screw French Dip (or its even more pretentious name, "au jus"). I like horseradish on my roast beef dammit!

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:32 AM (7B7jB)

648 (Background/explanation: been getting horseradish mayo to go with my pastrami reuben sandwiches at Togo's lately. Oh the deliciousness...)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:34 AM (7B7jB)

649 Aunts and uncles moved to LA post-depression to work in the aeronautics industry, Douglass mostly if I remember right. Bought little bungalows in Santa Monica and Orange and the Valley. Nice, when I got to visit from the South.

Posted by: Enby at January 28, 2013 02:34 AM (ptlfZ)

650 644
kbdabear, link?



Going to the waaaayy back machine, does anyone remember the gold
fish farm in Westminster on the border of Huntington Beach? Cabbage
patches too in HB. Westminster mall now resides on the gold fish farm
property.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:30 AM

Tony's Darts Away is still there

http://tonysda.com/

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:35 AM (wwsoB)

651 Hm. After a little search seems it's still there. Only much smaller and a few blocks away.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:35 AM (bzOLE)

652
I strike up my band for work 24/7..I have 2 jobs E.R LVN and PANAVISION Technocrane Tech....not making it cleanly in either so....maybe a 3rd job this year.....this is what I have to do.....
this is the way of things in CALIBONYA....

Fuck You Jerry.....eat shit and die.....

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:35 AM (CM/vG)

653 You can have that, too, QPD. Big menu, lots of variety, great 'basic' food, not stupid expensive. "Family style" tables. Downtown, a couple of blocks from Union Station.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 02:37 AM (3sZO1)

654 For SoCal dining that's a bit off the beaten.....http://www.clearmansrestaurants.com/northwoods/index.php

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 02:40 AM (kaalw)

655 La Brea tar pits? I thought Tommy Lee Jones and Ann Heche torched the place.
Posted by: Enby


La Brea means 'the tar.'

I'd leave 'The Tar Tar pits' to our Studderer in Chief.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2013 02:40 AM (xz0nG)

656 Bill H: Union Station eh? VERY dicey neighborhood from what I recall (I used to deliver personal bankrupcy petitions to the Federal Building nearby on Los Angeles Street)... but when I have some money again-- i.e., I have another job and the money to afford something beyond non-fast grub-- I'd like to try some of those places in LA 've read about for years, like you describe.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:40 AM (7B7jB)

657 651
Hm. After a little search seems it's still there. Only much smaller and a few blocks away.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:35 AM

Friggin' pricey for a small pub and it's loaded with vegan shit. You know it's a proctologist's dream when a pub serves a vegan menu with designer beers. Lots of studio people live in that area, not surprising

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2013 02:42 AM (wwsoB)

658
So-Cal M and M's
The BEST place for STEAKS an beef in general was........

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:43 AM (CM/vG)

659 lol kbdabear. I was talking about the fish farm. Just wanted to know what some moron did.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:44 AM (bzOLE)

660 654 Northwoods Inn is where we had my wedding lunch That is the area I grew up and live in.

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 02:44 AM (XDC0v)

661 Remember reading a while back that the reason there's a short tight jog in the 101 freeway near Union Station in downtown LA is because there used to be a huge brewery right there, the Brew 102 brewery. Supposedly named because the owners had tried 101 recipes before hitting the right one.

Way before my time of course, but I wonder if it was a beer worth drinking...

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 02:45 AM (7B7jB)

662 658 ...Pantry on 9th and Figueroa. Open continuously since 1929

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 02:46 AM (XDC0v)

663 661 Forgot all about that...

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 02:46 AM (XDC0v)

664
661
Yes my DAD was a Brew 102 man...Tall Black and White Can with a Pilsner glass and ?Yellow ? in the glass?....I was but a wee child then....

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:49 AM (CM/vG)

665 oh lord, won't you buy me

Posted by: derit at January 28, 2013 02:51 AM (I88Jc)

666 a mercedes benz

Posted by: derit at January 28, 2013 02:51 AM (I88Jc)

667
COME ON!!!!!
LAWRYS
The BEST place for Steak and Prime Rib in L.A for......decades!!!!!!

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:54 AM (CM/vG)

668 Remember reading a while back that the reason there's a short tight jog in the 101 freeway near Union Station in downtown LA is because there used to be a huge brewery right there, the Brew 102 brewery. Supposedly named because the owners had tried 101 recipes before hitting the right one.
Holy Cow. Mom and Dad used to drink that. I think it was pretty inexpensive back in the day. Anyone remeber Appfells coffee? Dad was a coffee salesman for most of my childhood.

Wow, thanks for all the memories!
Gives me a warm fuzzy it this crappy cold depressing weather.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 02:55 AM (bzOLE)

669
L.A M and M's

You so fail me....turn in your bitch stripes

damn losers......

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:57 AM (CM/vG)

670 A homage to Rum's irrational love for kraut steel, ^^^,

Posted by: derit at January 28, 2013 02:57 AM (I88Jc)

671 655
Weft, kinda like Matt Damon working at "The El Flamingo."

I wonder which I've heard more of during my lifetime for our same referent in LA.

Posted by: Enby at January 28, 2013 02:58 AM (ptlfZ)

672 You know, I really don't think I ever got down there on my visits. Seems incredible, given my ages.

Posted by: Enby at January 28, 2013 03:01 AM (ptlfZ)

673
How bout......
Hollywood sucks Euro dick/Twat
Cause....they want Da money......slurp!!!

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 03:02 AM (CM/vG)

674 667

COME ON!!!!!
LAWRYS
The BEST place for Steak and Prime Rib in L.A for......decades!!!!!!

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:54 AM (CM/vG)


I filled in for a week at the Lawry's California Center in the accounting side of things back in the 80's-- got the gig because my gf's aunt was the perm occupant, knew nothing, did nothing, hope I left nothing embarrassing behind.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:02 AM (kaalw)

675 @BloombergNews
Swiss ministers seek more depreciation of 'strong' franc | http://bloom.bg/VHqnrA


Only if our elected jackasses had been as honest...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2013 03:04 AM (xz0nG)

676
674
You will only be clubbed todeath if you handled the meat IN ANY WAY!!!

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 03:05 AM (CM/vG)

677 675
@BloombergNews
Swiss ministers seek more depreciation of 'strong' franc | http://bloom.bg/VHqnrA

Only if our elected jackasses had been as honest...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2013 03:04 AM (xz0nG)


If only our elected jackasses had been working for OUR interests instead of the bankers -- http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-26/only-3-minutes-worth-listening-davos

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:08 AM (kaalw)

678 Someday I'll get to try:

- Lawry's
- RuthChris' Steakhouse
- Buffalo Wings at the Anchor Bar in Buffalo, NY
- Longhorn Steakhouse
- Steak 'n Shake
- White Castle
- A bowl of Chili in New Mexico
- A bowl of Chili in San Antonio

... I'm sure I could think of others, but those will do for now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 03:08 AM (7B7jB)

679
I wish for RUM....

"That."

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 03:08 AM (CM/vG)

680 Was there overlap between the AtC era and the Rum era?

Posted by: derit at January 28, 2013 03:11 AM (I88Jc)

681 Never been to RuthsChris but I sure did love Morton's the one time I went.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:15 AM (bzOLE)

682 I've been to Ruth/Chris and Morton's. They were both plenty tasty, but they were what they were.



I went to Ralph Brennan's Jazz Cafe in Downtown Disney, and they egg-washed a piece of chicken, wrapped it in thin prosciutto, egg-washed again, then breaded and fried......and I learned something [HIGHLY recommended!].



I can learn something with those guys.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:23 AM (kaalw)

683 Sounds like something you could make at home.Sounds awesome.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:25 AM (bzOLE)

684 683
Sounds like something you could make at home.Sounds awesome.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:25 AM (bzOLE)


Done it a couple of times at home. It IS awesome. And, yet, they do it there like they have some practice. It's both an appreciation of their performance and an inspiration to your own -- and that, mein freund, is greatness.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:28 AM (kaalw)

685 Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:57 AM (CM/vG)

It's OK. I have Tommy's to keep me warm. Poser.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 03:31 AM (3sZO1)

686 Now talk to me about continuing experiments with bacon-wrapped (or -covered) steaks.....

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:31 AM (kaalw)

687 Lawry's has a bacon wrapped shrimp appetizer, which at happy hour prices is amazing. If your every stuck at the Tampa airport it's worth a quick taxi ride over the bridge.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2013 03:31 AM (AP6/F)

688 Been to Disneyland tons of time, never Disney World. I imagine it a few stars better.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:32 AM (bzOLE)

689 Wasn't there a Lawry's in Irvine at one time? I seem to remember one in OC, just can't place exactly where.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 03:34 AM (3sZO1)

690 Can never seem to get the bacon thoroughly cooked on steaks or shrimp.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:34 AM (bzOLE)

691 687
Lawry's has a bacon wrapped shrimp appetizer, which at happy hour prices
is amazing. If your every stuck at the Tampa airport it's worth a
quick taxi ride over the bridge.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2013 03:31 AM (AP6/F)
Whole Foods have bacon-wrapped scallops that are nearly impossible to screw up, even on the barbie.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:34 AM (kaalw)

692 Cthulhu, IHOP has those little prime ribs wrapped in bacon with eggs for seven bucks. Hard to make it yourself at that price.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2013 03:35 AM (AP6/F)

693 *Ding, ding, ding!*




Don't expect the bacon to come out right when the meat does -- it's worth doing if the melting fat bastes the meat.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:36 AM (kaalw)

694 Whole Foods have bacon-wrapped scallops that are nearly impossible to screw up, even on the barbie.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:34 AM (kaalw)


I'm definitely not a seafood guy, but that sounds like worth a try.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 03:38 AM (3sZO1)

695 688
Been to Disneyland tons of time, never Disney World. I imagine it a few stars better.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:32 AM (bzOLE)



They're different. If I could have all of the WDW property work like DL, I might......but they're very different, despite wearing the same mask of the mouse.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2013 03:38 AM (kaalw)

696 The other steak place Tampa, fancy place with statues, can't remember the name has bacon as an appetizer and a chateaubriand with a fatty piece of bacon used to make a crunchy crust.

Damn, eating oatmeal is going to suck in the morning, back to sleep for me.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2013 03:39 AM (z6Elp)

697 Cthulhu, IHOP has those little prime ribs wrapped in bacon with eggs for seven bucks. Hard to make it yourself at that price.
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2013 03:35 AM (AP6/F)


Now I'm hungry.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:39 AM (bzOLE)

698 Bravo! Cucina, if there's one in your area, has a worthwhile happy-hour deal. Drinks $5 with $4 appetizer portions, big enough for two. The Shrimp Napoli, fried popcorn shrimp with sauce on the side, is top-notch, and not the only one.

Posted by: Enby at January 28, 2013 03:40 AM (ptlfZ)

699 Now I'm hungry.
Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:39 AM (bzOLE)


Got one nearby? Most of 'em are 24hr now.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 03:42 AM (3sZO1)

700 Enby, that reminds me, had a fried lasagna appitizer at Olive Garden a couple weeks ago. Had a gift card. That appitizer is a meal and was to die for.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:43 AM (bzOLE)

701 Yes, one is near, but am chowing on some left over spag and meatballs.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:44 AM (bzOLE)

702 Charros?

Posted by: derit at January 28, 2013 03:44 AM (I88Jc)

703 Time has come I have to tune out. 'Nite, all.

Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2013 03:47 AM (3sZO1)

704 The actual meals at some of the italian chains have gotten amazingly large. My problem is I'll eat it if it's in front of me, and don't really need to be doing that, money-wise, calorie-wise, discomfort-wise, or otherwise.

Posted by: Enby at January 28, 2013 03:50 AM (ptlfZ)

705 'Nite Bill. I need to turn it too. Work in the am.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:50 AM (bzOLE)

706 Yep, ate on the leftovers for 2 days.

Posted by: Infidel at January 28, 2013 03:51 AM (bzOLE)

707 Enby out, too, then. G'night, morons.

Posted by: Enby, out at January 28, 2013 03:51 AM (ptlfZ)

708 692 the thiong about ihop is that if you call the number on the bottom of the receipt AND DO THE SHORT SURVEY THEY GIVE YOU $5 OFF. Bacon wrapped sirloins for $7...

Posted by: DAve at January 28, 2013 03:59 AM (XDC0v)

709 687 Lawry's has a bacon wrapped shrimp appetizer, which at happy hour prices is amazing. If your every stuck at the Tampa airport it's worth a quick taxi ride over the bridge.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2013 03:31 AM (AP6/F)

My favorite food, wrapped around my third-favorite food.

Posted by: Ron Swanson at January 28, 2013 03:59 AM (jVAw4)

710 Yeah, I need to turn in too. 'Night folks. Good chat.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2013 04:00 AM (7B7jB)

711
Just the heck of a...
Talking about LAWRYS, and have not had the mouthful pleasure in so many years..never been the "Ruth-Chris" or Morton's route. There is "Gulliver's" in the OC which is da bomb..and an L.A oldey "Tam "O" Shanter with their hallmark Prime Rib and Chocolate souffle made to order......good eats...fine bar....

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 04:02 AM (CM/vG)

712
Well,
1 a.m west coast and the full moon is high after the cloud break...

time to go nigh-nigh,
Sweet M and M dreams.........

Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 04:18 AM (CM/vG)

713 667
COME ON!!!!!
LAWRYS
The BEST place for Steak and Prime Rib in L.A for......decades!!!!!!
Posted by: Richard at January 28, 2013 02:54 AM (CM/vG


It's a total dive, but I always liked Chez Jay's in Santa Monica. My ex-boss was tight with Jay Fiondello for years so we always seemed to gravitate there after work at least once a month.

As for "real" steak houses in LA, Morton's and yes, Lawry's for the prime rib.

In NYC, it's Morton's, Smith & Wollensky and of course Peter Luger.

Good morning. My nose woke up and the kittehs are awake, but back to be for a little while.

Later kids.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 28, 2013 04:30 AM (XkWWK)

714 Just the heck of a...
Talking about LAWRYS, and have not had the mouthful pleasure in so many years..never been the "Ruth-Chris" or Morton's route.
Posted by: Richard


I've eaten at all three more than once.

Best steak: At home, Jack Daniels marinade. Hands down.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2013 04:30 AM (xz0nG)

715 Jeez, I must be tired. My favorite LA steak/meat joint is Musso and Frank's in Hollywood!

Consider me chastised, and tired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 28, 2013 04:30 AM (XkWWK)

716 Hey everyone, let me say how happy I was to see evil black guns in my ED yesterday when a drug-related shooting went down and the thugs were thick in the waiting room...

Posted by: Conservative Crank, yet another work computer at January 28, 2013 04:36 AM (d7H2D)

717 Hey everyone, let me say how happy I was to see evil black guns in my ED yesterday when a drug-related shooting went down and the thugs were thick in the waiting room...
Posted by: Conservative Crank/i]

Emergency Dept?

Evil black guns? Police, I assume.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2013 04:44 AM (xz0nG)

718 School delayed in Wake County NC this Monday morning due to.....wait for it....
Rain.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 28, 2013 06:49 AM (4Mv1T)

719
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 28, 2013 04:30 AM (XkWWK)

Just don't forget your wallet at Smith Wollensky's.
http://tinyurl.com/azo4vyj

Posted by: olddog at January 28, 2013 06:53 AM (A9na/)

720 #717

Erectile Dysfunction?

Posted by: epobirs at January 28, 2013 07:14 AM (kcfmt)






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Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat