Australian Whinemaker Seeks To Pull Wine From NRA Wine Club

Wait. What?

The NRA has a wine club?

After discovering that the NRA was selling four of its wines on the club’s international list, winemaker Yalumba is seeking to detach itself from the NRA, Fox News reports.

“Philosophically, I’m not disposed towards the NRA, which runs counter to my family’s, and I would think all my employees’, positions on gun laws,” Yalumba founder Robert Hill Smith said. “We will act to withdraw our stock or at least not service the account any longer.”

As one who is partial to the grape (but just the red ones), I will be joining the NRA Wine Club today. And I encourage you to as well.

Tomorrow's Guns & Hunting Thread will include a list of companies like Buffalo Wild Wings, Intuit and Yalumba winery (whose wine, I'm sure, sucks) that you should consider steering your dollars away from.

Wine club story via @BamaPachyderm's FB page.

Posted by: Andy at 04:01 PM



Comments

1 3 weeks into the new season of Justified and Raylan hasn't killed anyone...WTF?

Posted by: bocephus at January 26, 2013 04:04 PM (3Crtn)

2 Yep, the wine club is one of the many offers that the NRA sends your way in addition to the usual load of mail.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 26, 2013 04:06 PM (X11b6)

3 Reminding me yet again opf the "Beer, Wine, Ammo" sign I saw upon landing in Lexington Ky lo those many years ago.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 26, 2013 04:07 PM (ZshNr)

4 Liberals are truly beyond parody.

Posted by: Chillin' at January 26, 2013 04:08 PM (wsGWu)

5 Here is a truism-
When they say you don't need the Second Amendment, that's when you need the Second Amendment.

Posted by: EROWMER at January 26, 2013 04:08 PM (kxlCQ)

6 Ahhh, go.away stoner sock!

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 04:09 PM (wsGWu)

7 1 3 weeks into the new season of Justified and Raylan hasn't killed anyone...WTF?

Posted by: bocephus at January 26, 2013 04:04 PM (3Crtn)



Here you go. To tide you over..

http://tinyurl.com/akc8a4b

Posted by: RWC at January 26, 2013 04:09 PM (sqp6o)

8 Fun fact: "No gun" signs have no force of law, at least in Pennsylvania. So if you're forced to go to a Buffalo Wild Wings, conceal carry away.

Posted by: wte9 at January 26, 2013 04:11 PM (ZL7LA)

9 There are some exceptions, but nothing for run of the mill establishments like a restaurant.

Posted by: wte9 at January 26, 2013 04:12 PM (ZL7LA)

10 Good thing that wine and alcohol has never been misused and lead to death and great harm in others.

Otherwise, the government would have to ban it...for the children.

Should work out fine, right. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Coldstream at January 26, 2013 04:12 PM (qrCKL)

11 "Tomorrow's Guns Hunting Thread will include a list of companies like Buffalo Wild Wings, Intuit and Yalumba winery (whose wine, I'm sure, sucks) that you should consider steering your dollars away from."

And as always, in any discussions of boycotts, remember that with a few tiny exceptions, pretty much the entire American entertainment industry should be on your boycott list.

If every conservative subscriber in America called up and cancelled their TV subscription on Monday morning, and said, "Why should I pay for left-wing propaganda when I can get that for free?", you can bet that there would be some abrupt shit hemorrhages occurring in Hollyweird.

Beast. Starvation. Some assembly required.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 26, 2013 04:13 PM (gqT4g)

12 Guess that bloke from OZ voted for Red Julia.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 04:13 PM (shmgt)

13 Much like the NRA, if there are somethings I associate with Australia it's their rugged outdoor spirit and love of wine.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 04:15 PM (Fz2C7)

14 why does the NRA have a wine club

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 26, 2013 04:15 PM (8sCoq)

15 Piesporter Michelsberg is the best White ( wine ). Spatlese

Posted by: John Smith at January 26, 2013 04:16 PM (Dll6b)

16 Feel free to wear your politics on your sleeve. I'll spend my money elsewhere.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 26, 2013 04:17 PM (X/+QT)

17 Why not just avoid Buffalo Wild Wings because their wings are God awful.

Posted by: JT in KC at January 26, 2013 04:17 PM (diHsG)

18 14 why does doesn't the NRA have a wine whiskey/bourbon club
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 26, 2013 04:15 PM (8sCoq)




Better question

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 04:17 PM (GEICT)

19 Btw, how are those advertisers doing who dropped Limbaugh?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 26, 2013 04:17 PM (X/+QT)

20 So the fellow doesn't believe in a free market?


Son, once you sell your shit to a distributor you have NO rights to it. You DON'T own it. Understand asshole?

I wouldn't worry about the NRA selling it, no member will be buying your shit after your remarks. Guess what, 5 million folks will be bad mouthing your wine too. How's that going to help your sales, idiot.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 04:18 PM (wR+pz)

21 fuck turbo tax, it's over priced shit. I suggest taxact.com, it's much cheaper, I use it every year!

Posted by: justin at January 26, 2013 04:18 PM (tclnS)

22 The only wine that goes well with shooting is Thunderbird.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 26, 2013 04:19 PM (QKKT0)

23
Squeeze the makers by restricing access to capital (probably illegally), make the NRA organization non-grata. Expose and pressure the members.

Freeze the target, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut it off from support.

That process seems oddly familiar. The 21st century reich is coming for all of us. it's just a matter of time before Washington's lidless eye sees each and every one of the willful non-compliant clinging to our God and guns.

Posted by: Advo at January 26, 2013 04:19 PM (0rgqK)

24 Btw, how are those advertisers doing who dropped Limbaugh?


I still get emails from Carbonite begging me to come back.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 26, 2013 04:20 PM (QKKT0)

25 18
14 why does doesn't the NRA have a wine whiskey/bourbon club

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 26, 2013 04:15 PM (8sCoq)







Better question

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 04:17 PM (GEICT)

You can sell wine in interstate commerce, not distilled spirits. Each state controls those sales. The wine exception was voted in about 20 years ago.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 04:21 PM (wR+pz)

26 Here in the foothills of the Ozarks, if there's not at least 8 mom n pop convenience stores per county, with flashing neon advertising 'BAIT, BEER, AMMO,' the planet wobbles on its axis. Or something.

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at January 26, 2013 04:22 PM (tUT9B)

27 Semi-OT there is guns and ammo in it. For BCochran. Just don't show the kids. http://youtu.be/Qk08nxbp_JQ

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 04:23 PM (shmgt)

28 You can sell wine in interstate commerce, not distilled spirits. Each state controls those sales. The wine exception was voted in about 20 years ago.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 04:21 PM (wR+pz)

--The Wall Street Journal has a wine club as well. Interesting that I only read about it in the paper version, not the online one.

Posted by: logprof at January 26, 2013 04:23 PM (OLdtM)

29 You can sell wine in interstate commerce, not distilled spirits. Each state controls those sales. The wine exception was voted in about 20 years ago.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 04:21 PM (wR+pz)



No law against recommendations right? A page extolling businesses that support the 2A, booze and otherwise.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 04:24 PM (GEICT)

30 Btw, how are those advertisers doing who dropped Limbaugh?

LOL. Capitalism. It's a stone-cold bitch.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 26, 2013 04:24 PM (OevbG)

31 22
The only wine that goes well with shooting is Thunderbird.


Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 26, 2013 04:19 PM (QKKT0)

Hey, what about me? I am not feeling the love.

Posted by: Your NC Valu Rite Distributor at January 26, 2013 04:24 PM (wR+pz)

32
“Philosophically, I’m not disposed towards the NRA, which runs counter to my family’s, and I would think all my employees’, positions on gun laws,” Yalumba founder Robert Hill Smith said.

What, you quizzed all your employees? Or you set conditions on employment? What makes you so sure, asswipe?

Posted by: rrpjr at January 26, 2013 04:25 PM (ztbYQ)

33 @28

A buddy of mine is in the WSJ wine club and he raves about the wine and the prices.

Posted by: Your NC Valu Rite Distributor at January 26, 2013 04:25 PM (wR+pz)

34 off sock

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 04:25 PM (wR+pz)

35 Well I hope some of you are getting to watch OU @ KU.
Radio only for me. Again.

Oh yeah. Australia. You suck. So does your wine. I quit buying French wine a long time ago. Remember when they wouldn't let us over fly on our way to Libya?
Will probably quit drinking California wines. Had about enough of their sending commies to Congress.

That's okay. We grow grapes in Kansas and make some pretty good wine. Goes nicely with the beef, pork, wheat, corn, soybeans, milo, oil, natural gas, hell, everything you need but citrus.
I'm sure we can work out something with Texas on that.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 04:26 PM (9aeie)

36 Yalumbo's newest wine commemorates the Citizen whose principled stand against firearms comes face to face with a home invasion robbery:

Too-Fucked Chuck

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 26, 2013 04:27 PM (QKKT0)

37 Anna, the real Stacy's Mom. Perhaps the greatest American music video...ever.


For the Horde....

http://youtu.be/dZLfasMPOU4

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 04:28 PM (GEICT)

38 Hell, Kansas even has a monopoly on helium!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 26, 2013 04:28 PM (l3vZN)

39 Valu-rite isn't wine, it's bathtub vodka.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 04:31 PM (Fz2C7)

40 Yalumba's Grenache is good and affordable, but I'll avoid them from now on.

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2013 04:31 PM (5H6zj)

41 I believe everyone was already boycotting Yalumba wines due to taste and feces content.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 26, 2013 04:31 PM (w+Dvf)

42 Instead of telling me who to avoid I'd rather have a list of who to do business with. So far I'm eating all my meals at Chik-fil and taken up knitting to buy supplies from Hobby Lobby.

I hate knitting and chicken. I need other choices.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 26, 2013 04:32 PM (aT/Cc)

43 And sven always leaves us out of the secession discussion.
Did I mention Boeing? Or Cessna?

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 04:32 PM (Xi3UG)

44 BCochran, heh. Yu MILFer you.

Animator of my link is a Desert Storm vet. Writes and draws a comic called Gold Digger about three young and adventurous gals from Georgia - Gina, Brittany, and Brianna. They find secret treasures, battle monsters, tote big guns, and other fun. Along with things as Atomic Wedgies.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 04:33 PM (shmgt)

45 Aussie wine? I'll bet it's one of those companies that's too cheap to use a screw top.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 26, 2013 04:35 PM (QupBk)

46 And for Anna P we have the Combat Air Museum in Topeka where you can get up close and personal with a lot of the old planes.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 04:36 PM (Xi3UG)

47 We definitely need a list of businesses that oppose the NRA or support gun bans. Economics is a powerful weapon.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2013 04:37 PM (xjpRj)

48 Very cool AP

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 04:37 PM (GEICT)

49 I wish i had a fuck to give.

Its australian.

Unless a dingo ate some baby, its not that exciting.

Posted by: Juan with the Grande Churizo for the ladies...also looking for work and free healthcare at January 26, 2013 04:38 PM (+OTLF)

50 I wonder if that Yalumba place has a website, and a contact button.
Ya think the Horde could have fun with that?

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 04:38 PM (Xi3UG)

51 What, you quizzed all your employees? Or you set conditions on employment?

I was just about to ask if CA was a right to work state, then I caught myself.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 04:39 PM (ZKzrr)

52 It's a shame, sinceI liked their port. Oh, well, any cash I'dspend on their wine can nowgo toward ammo. Not sure I can convince my husband to give up Turbotax, though.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at January 26, 2013 04:39 PM (qtKqj)

53 2
Yep, the wine club is one of the many offers that the NRA sends your way in addition to the usual load of mail.


Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 26, 2013 04:06 PM (X11b6)

Speaking of which, have they started offering a discounted paper-burning stove for house-heating yet?

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at January 26, 2013 04:39 PM (2VCZA)

54
Just about time to fire up the charcoal burners again. They have been cleaned so many times the bluing is wearing off.

Got a butt load of caps and powder laying around, need to use it.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 26, 2013 04:39 PM (SAMxH)

55 3 weeks into the new season of Justified and Raylan hasn't killed anyone...WTF?

I predict that Johnny doesn't make it past episode 7.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 26, 2013 04:40 PM (QupBk)

56 50 I wonder if that Yalumba place has a website, and a contact button.
Ya think the Horde could have fun with that?

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 04:38 PM (Xi3UG)




http://www.yalumba.com/contact.asp?p=176

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 04:41 PM (GEICT)

57 Yalumba wine? Sounds kind of like Ariba or Thunderbird.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 04:41 PM (EKcuo)

58 Australia is kinda rapey, isn't it? Is that their position on guns? Being raped?

Sounds gay.

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 26, 2013 04:42 PM (I2LwF)

59 Yalumba Wine's website has a contact link.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2013 04:42 PM (HjPtV)

60 Thanks BC. Be back in a bit.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 04:43 PM (Xi3UG)

61 Nice work, BC

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2013 04:43 PM (HjPtV)

62 Not a wine drinker anyway but BWW recently opened a restaraunt here, was considering trying them out. Thanks for saving me the trouble of giving you my money. Shitbags apparently are everywhere.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 26, 2013 04:45 PM (tlhtD)

63 Any port will do in a storm of sobriety.

Posted by: Horace Rumpole's glassy eye at January 26, 2013 04:46 PM (I88Jc)

64 OT

The horrors of Hitler's Final Solution keep coming. Theim was stolen away from his parents at the age of two to be raised by a couple selected by the Nazis.
http://tinyurl.com/a9jcpkc

The Germans would actively seek out children in conquered lands who exhibited Aryan physical traits and simply take them. Then give the children to proper Nazi couples to be raised as the next generation of soldiers for the Fatherland. Janissaries but more depraved.

Bad Arolsen has existed since the end of WWII but all the records were practically sealed away for fifty years. Only now are they coming to light to answer questions or reunite families.

*rummages on blog, ah 2006*
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2006/11/new-glimpse-into-hell.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 04:48 PM (shmgt)

65 My sent message to Yalumba.

"Well I see that your liberal sensitivities won't allow you to take my money.
That's o.k., the NRA is growing without you and besides, I have a couple nice boxes of wine that taste a hell of a lot better then your shit."

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 04:49 PM (Fz2C7)

66 Yellow Tail to be renamed Yellow Belly or Yellow Streak.

Posted by: sTevo at January 26, 2013 04:49 PM (VMcEw)

67 Used politics in decisions while shopping for wines for the holidays.
California - boycotted
New York - boycotted

Based on fact the IMF is trying to screw Italy by forcing them to back debt of Spain and Greece, selected Cavit's Pinot Noir from Italy.

Sympathetic to France for having elected a socialist, and to show appreciation for their new military toughness, selected Louis Jado - Beau- Jolais Villages , red burgundy.


Posted by: Deli LLama at January 26, 2013 04:49 PM (lGu1O)

68 Used politics in decisions while shopping for wines for the holidays.California - boycotted New York - boycotted


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OMG! What are winos going to drink. It says right on the bottle that MD 20/20 is the perfect balance between NY and CA grapes.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 04:53 PM (EKcuo)

69 Anyone here see the latest cover of Time magazine?

Have your barf bag ready.

Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 04:54 PM (jp2Ur)

70 Anyone here see the latest cover of Time magazine?

It's not going to hit doctors' waiting rooms for another six months.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 04:55 PM (ZKzrr)

71
Posted by: Deli LLama at January 26, 2013 04:49 PM (lGu1O)

Missouri has award winning wines.
And a veto proof republican majority in the State House and Senate

Meanwhile however, while I think BWW is being stupid, I wonder if we have to respect the private property rights of people who don't want guns on their property?
I made the same argument when it came to smoking, if a resturant wants to ban guns/cigarettes it should be their choice and the market place will do it thing accordingly.

Posted by: tsrblke at January 26, 2013 04:55 PM (GaqMa)

72 http://bit.ly/10QRqkE

i don't dont want nobody by eddie harris


Posted by: sTevo at January 26, 2013 04:55 PM (VMcEw)

73 That's o.k., the NRA is growing without you and besides, I have a couple nice boxes of wine that taste a hell of a lot better then your shit."
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 04:49 PM (Fz2C7)
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That's racist.

Posted by: Napa at January 26, 2013 04:56 PM (jucos)

74 My message;
Do you realize how many people will not be buying your wine now due to your recent decision re the NRA wine club?
And it won't just be NRA members.
We'll keep our freedom. You can keep your wine.

First name: 2nd
Last name: Amendment
email: Heston'scolddeadhand at etc.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 04:56 PM (yrHcy)

75 "
Used politics in decisions while shopping for wines for the holidays.California - boycotted New York - boycotted"

Goodbye, Rosie! (sniff)

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2013 04:56 PM (HjPtV)

76
Bye Bye Yalumba. I have wine tastings every week. Keep your ignorant Aussie gun opinions out of this country. I'll be keeping your wine out of our wine tasitngs. Ok mate?
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I left out "fuckwad" because I'm a diplomat..

Posted by: Guido at January 26, 2013 04:57 PM (XLuH2)

77 Anyone here see the latest cover of Time magazine? Have your barf bag ready.
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 04:54 PM (jp2Ur)


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Why dontcha' just tell us.


Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 04:57 PM (EKcuo)

78 I wonder if we have to respect the private property rights of people who don't want guns on their property?

We are...we're not forcing them to accept guns, the way the anti-tobacco crowd forced their preference on all bars.

This was a big thing in WI, when they finally got the right to carry last year.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 04:58 PM (ZKzrr)

79 Fuck Yalumba.
I've never tried it anyway.

There are hundreds of struggling small wineries here in the US that I would rather give my money to.

I know some winemakers in Arkansas...avid gun owners...who need their guns to keep the wild hogs out of their vine rows.
They make great wines too.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2013 04:58 PM (fH4X9)

80 I heard douchebrain David Arquette says that he has to use guns in his films because he has to make a living. Well, duh, what about people who just want to live?

He also complained that TWD gets away with it because they are shooting zombies and not people. Not quite. I remember a director of TWD explaining that they could not show a child getting shot. So, when the girl with the bunny slippers and Sophia were shot -- both zombies, they could not show it. You see the gun being fired and then it cuts away to the child getting hit. A small but important distinction.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 26, 2013 04:59 PM (jwumz)

81 I know some winemakers in Arkansas...avid gun owners...who need their guns to keep the wild hogs out of their vine rows.
They make great wines too.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2013 04:58 PM (fH4X9)

--When I drove through there last summer I found out that there's a growing win industry in . . . Oklahoma.

Posted by: logprof at January 26, 2013 04:59 PM (OLdtM)

82 Anyone here see the latest cover of Time magazine? Have your barf bag ready.
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 04:54 PM (jp2Ur)


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Why dontcha' just tell us.


Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 04:57 PM (EKcuo)


Three big shot Democrats (of a sort) named "The Gun Fighters"

Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 05:00 PM (jp2Ur)

83 A lot of wine growers in North Carolina and Michigan, too.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2013 05:01 PM (HjPtV)

84 Errr ... wineries ... still recovering from the Texas road trip.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2013 05:01 PM (HjPtV)

85 --When I drove through there last summer I found out that there's a growing win industry in . . . Oklahoma.
Posted by: logprof at January 26, 2013 04:59 PM (OLdtM)


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Yup. It's 1/32nd Cherokee too.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:01 PM (EKcuo)

86 "...a growing win industry in.....Oklahoma."

They won't be winning in Lawrence today.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 05:01 PM (yrHcy)

87 1 3 weeks into the new season of Justified and Raylan hasn't killed anyone...WTF?Posted by: bocephus at January 26, 2013 04:04 PM (3Crtn)
We can hope. Raylan is coming up against that fighter again-- someone Raylan "can't knock down with a hammer."
Since the fighter stole Raylan's money stash, I don't see that ending well.

Posted by: Die Trying at January 26, 2013 05:01 PM (w7J/R)

88 There's even wineries in MN. Marketed as: "Where the grapes can suffer."

Posted by: Guido at January 26, 2013 05:01 PM (XLuH2)

89 I heard douchebrain David Arquette says that he has to use guns in his films because he has to make a living.

He's not too old to learn a useful trade.

Wikipedia informs me his maternal grandmother was a Holocaust survivor from Poland and his father was a convert to Islam. That's fucked up.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 05:02 PM (ZKzrr)

90 There is some widespread instinct to piss off large chunks of your customer base - probably a conflation of the belief that ones politics are absolute moral standards and the belief some people have against all measured reality that since their beliefs are objectively moral, they are automatically a vast majority and the opposition must be tiny but inexplicably powerful.

It's always "heavily-funded minority" or "tiny minority of extremists" or whatever. It's as if being in the majority is one of those precepts they start with and lump everything else on top... so they think they're safe to denigrate those "minority of extremists," even if they're actually a plurality or majority.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:02 PM (bxiXv)

91 81 --When I drove through there last summer I found out that there's a growing win industry in . . . Oklahoma.

Yep.
We do have several small-production wineries here.
Not that many vineyards, though...so they buy their grapes or bulk juice from other vineyards.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2013 05:03 PM (fH4X9)

92 Three big shot Democrats (of a sort) named "The Gun Fighters"
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 05:00 PM (jp2Ur)



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Heh. Sheila Jackson Lee in a ten-gallon hat.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:03 PM (EKcuo)

93 There are wineries in all 50 states. Some states have a handful while others are loaded with them. Here in Virginia the number keeps going up.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 26, 2013 05:04 PM (X11b6)

94 Really? Come on.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 05:05 PM (GEICT)

95 We don't have the climate for grapes in Wisconsin, so we get a lot of berry wines and dandelion wine by the kitchen winemakers. Unlike most home-brewers beer, some of this wine ain't that bad.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 05:05 PM (Fz2C7)

96 Ha! Is that the smell of ozone wafting through the HQ?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 05:06 PM (GEICT)

97 I love a troll bust at happy hour.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 05:07 PM (ZKzrr)

98 Missouri has award winning wines.
And a veto proof republican majority in the State House and Senate
Posted by: tsrblke at January 26, 2013 04:55 PM (GaqMa)
From state with a fascist liquor control board. Think it's even illegal to mail order wines. Am a beer drinker - Yuengling, don't purchase wine on a
regular basis. .......

Goodbye, Rosie! (sniff)Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2013 04:56 PM (HjPtV)
More like Goodbye Pelosi! Didn't want to take chance of giving that beeoch any dough. Although souther CA. selections would have been safe, but Cali. voted blue.

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 26, 2013 05:07 PM (lGu1O)

99 Seems that way BCochran. *zap*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:07 PM (shmgt)

100 Hmmm, one of my friends has a 130 acre tract and a 40 acre tract. Be pretty easy to find a place to put in a hundred feet of grapes for personal use.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 05:08 PM (kGDRz)

101 39 Valu-rite isn't wine, it's bathtub vodka.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 04:31 PM (Fz2C7)

Each bathtub has it's own set of grime and bacteria that give each bottle its own unique flavor.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 26, 2013 05:08 PM (FsUAO)

102 It's nice that you admit to loving what everyone here already knows you love, but I don't quite see the necessity of repeating it so many times.

Posted by: Adam at January 26, 2013 05:08 PM (/YJYi)

103 Just made a call to Hooters. Ordered some wings. I like going to Hooters. Hooters have nice things.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:09 PM (EKcuo)

104 Wow North Carolina is proposing a ban on selling lottery tickets to those on welfare.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:10 PM (shmgt)

105 Australia really isn't the land of rugged individualist with half-dingo dogs working the outback. For every one of those there are a hundred metro half-euros with sunburns.

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2013 05:10 PM (qjFNd)

106 Yalumba

That's Australian for

Syphilitic kangaroo piss.




Drink up.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 26, 2013 05:11 PM (G9qZk)

107 So is Outback on the ban list also?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:11 PM (shmgt)

108 Wow North Carolina is proposing a ban on selling lottery tickets to those on welfare.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:10 PM (shmgt)


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Cool. Ups my chances by about three million.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:12 PM (EKcuo)

109 North Carolina is proposing a ban on selling lottery tickets to those on welfare.

What's the over/under on the drop in sales?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 05:13 PM (ZKzrr)

110 100 Hmmm, one of my friends has a 130 acre tract and a 40 acre tract. Be pretty easy to find a place to put in a hundred feet of grapes for personal use.

Growing grapes is sorta labor intensive, teej.

You need to irrigate the vines, in the dry months...fertilize them, prune them, construct supports to train the vines on, and be constantly tying them up.
It's doable.
But you should be mindful of the labor that is involved.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2013 05:13 PM (fH4X9)

111 "Cool. Ups my chances by about three million."

Not at Hooters, chance there, still pretty much zero.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 05:14 PM (Fz2C7)

112 Yalumba is about to find out that making a decent red ain't that fucking hard . There are vintners all over the world doing it .
Hell , if I can make a pretty good ipa then it's not going to be much of stretch to turn my hand to table wine .
Yalumba , you fucked up .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 26, 2013 05:14 PM (USjX1)

113 We need a good website telling us about all these corporations and what they are supporting, including what TV programs they support.

I'm not much into boycotting but ....inquiring minds want to know.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 26, 2013 05:14 PM (C8mVl)

114 Saw a story the other day that the comp[any that produces Yello Tail (which is NOT this company) lost money for the first time ever last quarter.

Reasons:

Drop in wine buying due to US economy
US dollar fell against the Australian dollar, so their wines have been sort of priced out of their niche market. (This is true because it was 7.99 a couple of years ago and is now 12.99)

So it would seem likely this guy is trying to get out of a contract and use this as an excuse which plays well with the PC people.


Posted by: Miss Marple at January 26, 2013 05:15 PM (GoIUi)

115 Wow, that was fast. It was here and then it was gone, leaving nothing but the smell of ozone.

Posted by: lizardbrain at January 26, 2013 05:15 PM (EXDjY)

116 107 So is Outback on the ban list also?

Is that a winemaker?
'Cause if you're referring to Outback Steakhouse...they've never been owned by any Aussies.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2013 05:15 PM (fH4X9)

117 As far as the business owner setting the rules on his own property, of course he has to the right to tell the customers no guns or no smoking or whatever. That is an essential element of freedom, that is the freedom of assembly. I recognize his right and accept his decision. OTOH, I have the right to decide where, when, how and with whom I choose to spend my money and or time. He has made his decision and I have made mine. The no gun policy should limt the bloodshed of the robbers if it comes to that so it's a win win.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 26, 2013 05:16 PM (tlhtD)

118 Just made a call to Hooters. Ordered some wings. I like going to Hooters. Hooters have nice things.

The food is vile, but yeah, it's worth going to anyway.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 26, 2013 05:16 PM (OevbG)

119 100 Hmmm, one of my friends has a 130 acre tract and a 40 acre tract. Be pretty easy to find a place to put in a hundred feet of grapes for personal use.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 05:08 PM (kGDRz)

--Has the desire to enact super taxes on booze gained any traction, or did it die with the Wave in 2010? You better believe the Democrats, having exsanguinated most other healthy industries, will eventually take another bite out of wine, beer, and liquor. Then there will be a booming DIY wine and beer cottage industry.

Posted by: logprof at January 26, 2013 05:16 PM (OLdtM)

120 "Wow North Carolina is proposing a ban on selling lottery tickets to those on welfare."

That proposed law is unenforceable at the retail level. Better would be a check when the lottery "winner" claims a prize worth $600 or more at the lottery regional or state office.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2013 05:16 PM (HjPtV)

121 Let me guess, "the gunfighters" are standing with their arms crossed turned to one side (two are facing the third) with the center one slightly in front of the others.

They have stern looks on their faces with their heads turned toward the camera.

I haven't seen the cover, am I right?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:17 PM (xSegX)

122 103 Just made a call to Hooters. Ordered some wings. I like going to Hooters. Hooters have nice things.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:09 PM (EKcuo)

Yup.

Posted by: Wes Welker at January 26, 2013 05:17 PM (OLdtM)

123 You need to irrigate the vines, in the dry months...fertilize them, prune them, construct supports to train the vines on, and be constantly tying them up. It's doable. But you should be mindful of the labor that is involved.
Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2013 05:13 PM (fH4X9)


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Birds love grapes. Maybe an evil scarecrow or two. It'll keep the HS football teams from stealing them.

You'll have to craft a cannon that shoots a large spear, though.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:17 PM (EKcuo)

124 Does "suck my dingo" mean anything in Australianese?

Posted by: Guido at January 26, 2013 05:18 PM (XLuH2)

125 Let me guess, "the gunfighters" are standing with their arms crossed turned to one side (two are facing the third) with the center one slightly in front of the others.

They have stern looks on their faces with their heads turned toward the camera.

I haven't seen the cover, am I right?
Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:17 PM (xSegX)


Very close. Three stern or determined looks, all facing the camera, all standing with arms folded, and in black&white.

Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 05:19 PM (jp2Ur)

126 Concord, NH. A jury in a Federal trial took an hour to convict a woman of exploiting her 14yr old daughter to make porn. The convicted woman is a lawyer.
http://tinyurl.com/bgjzdhd

Framingham, MA man. Blotto on booze. Tries to kidnap the woman from Gino's Pizza delivering his pizza. Says he wants her for his wife.
http://tinyurl.com/b5khpfe

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:19 PM (shmgt)

127 Let me guess, "the gunfighters" are standing with their arms crossed turned to one side (two are facing the third) with the center one slightly in front of the others. They have stern looks on their faces with their heads turned toward the camera. I haven't seen the cover, am I right?
Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:17 PM (xSegX)


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Don't forget holsters full of flowers and fuzzy bunnies.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:19 PM (EKcuo)

128 Google "harden the fuck up australia" .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 26, 2013 05:19 PM (USjX1)

129 So it would seem likely this guy is trying to get out of a contract and use this as an excuse which plays well with the PC people.

Interesting. I'm sure he's a liberal douche, too. Notice he said "my family". There is no liberal like a liberal who has inherited money.

He speaks for his employees because he's otherized the NRA, so no "right thinking people" could possibly believe in something as evil as guns. Can't they just hire security and bodyguards?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:19 PM (xSegX)

130 Had breakfast at a coffee shop packed with local assholes this morning. I wonder how many of them would have recoiled in horror had they known I'd come heavy.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2013 05:20 PM (MPjT8)

131 I've never been to a Hooters...used to have a neighbor that was a Hooter's girl, though.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2013 05:21 PM (Vp7Cg)

132 Meh. Grapevine roots grow pretty deep. He runs cattle so fertilizer is no problem. Build the trellises when you plant the vines. Those are easy. Cut em back after the growing season and tie em to supports every 2 or 3 weeks during growing season.
Like I said it would be for personal use and a lot would be used just as grapes and making jelly.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 05:21 PM (b9+ZZ)

133 Don't forget holsters full of flowers and fuzzy bunnies.
Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:19 PM (EKcuo)

It's Biden, former Congresswoman Aphasia from AZ, and some other person I forgot.

Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 05:21 PM (jp2Ur)

134 Very close. Three stern or determined looks, all facing the camera, all standing with arms folded, and in black&white.

Are their bodies turned sideways? That's always a nice touch.

They are such hacks. Such absolute hacks.

Black and white? Well played, Time. Well played.

Probably was shot in color and they decided the ugly didn't play so well.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:21 PM (xSegX)

135 An anagram for Yalumba is "a bum lay".
Yeah.



Posted by: Caterpillar Words at January 26, 2013 05:22 PM (Qb7IZ)

136 130 USS, I was stationed in Texas when the maniac drove into and shot up the Louvie's restaraunt. I garuantee the customers that day wished someone was packing.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 26, 2013 05:23 PM (tlhtD)

137 Did the Time cover have the faces lit from below like they did to McCain?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 26, 2013 05:23 PM (l3vZN)

138 Sucks about BWW. I love the stuff, especially the hot and mango habanero sauces. I remember that No Guns notice being on the door of the Mesquite store but I thought it was merely owner's discretion, not a company thing.

Posted by: logprof at January 26, 2013 05:24 PM (OLdtM)

139 @114

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 26, 2013 05:15 PM (GoIUi)



That's not a surprise.

At $7.99, Yellow Tail is decent enough to swill with your grilled steak.

At $12.99, uh...no thankee, mate!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 26, 2013 05:25 PM (G9qZk)

140 I garuantee the customers that day wished someone was packing.

The daughter of two of the victims has been on TV to say as much. IIRC, she had a gun in her car.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 05:25 PM (ZKzrr)

141 That proposed law is unenforceable at the retail
level. Better would be a check when the lottery "winner" claims a prize
worth $600 or more at the lottery regional or state office.


Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2013 05:16 PM (HjPtV)

I thought the same thing. They going to make everyone with an EBT card wear a mark on their hand? Grandstanding.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:26 PM (wR+pz)

142 It's Biden, former Congresswoman Aphasia from AZ, and some other person I forgot.
Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 05:21 PM (jp2Ur)


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Is Biden wearing a big over-sized sheriff's star?

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:26 PM (EKcuo)

143
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 26, 2013 05:23 PM (tlhtD)

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I recall reading that story and wasn't there a girl who was a customer and usually had heat but for some reason ddn't bring it that day? I always remember that.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2013 05:26 PM (MPjT8)

144 "Framingham, MA man. Blotto on booze. Tries to kidnap the woman from
Gino's Pizza delivering his pizza. Says he wants her for his wife."

Is that wrong? If I knew that kind of thing was frowned upon.

Posted by: George Costanza at January 26, 2013 05:27 PM (Fz2C7)

145 136
130 USS, I was stationed in Texas when the maniac drove into and shot up
the Louvie's restaraunt. I garuantee the customers that day wished
someone was packing.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 26, 2013 05:23 PM (tlhtD)


Don't know if you've seen the Penn and Teller Bullshit episode about gun control but they talk to a woman who was there that day. Lost both of her parents. Left her gun in her car because she knew it was illegal to carry it in. She's a state congresswoman now, (R) of course.

Posted by: Adam at January 26, 2013 05:27 PM (/YJYi)

146 Suzanne Gratia Hupp.

Posted by: awkward davies at January 26, 2013 05:28 PM (USjX1)

147 Time cover. Only in NYC would someone think that was a honest question.


"The Gun Fighters"? Clare Booth Luce is rolling over in her grave down in SC.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:28 PM (wR+pz)

148 It's Biden, former Congresswoman Aphasia from AZ, and some other person I forgot.

Posted by: eman at January 26, 2013 05:21 PM (jp2Ur)




Pfffftttt. Hahahahahaha. Boy, that's quite the heavy hitter there. Directly able to influence the laws passed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 26, 2013 05:29 PM (GEICT)

149 That was Luby's.

I don't fear that. Around here, if you go near lunch time all the cops eating there make you feel sucure.

Posted by: Invictus at January 26, 2013 05:29 PM (OQpzc)

150 So I have this seriously asshat teacher for "Written Communications" which is a requirement for med lab tech degree. He pontificates about everything except the subject matter for the class. Last Thursday he explained how dangerous it would be for anyone to concealed carry who was as highly trained as the police force. I said he was full of it. After class he taps me on the shoulder and asks if I'm "packin'". I told him it was none of his business. When he started blustering at me, I told him it must be quite a burden to him being the smartest person he knows.



Suppose I'll get a passing grade this semester?

Posted by: tcn at January 26, 2013 05:29 PM (VLG62)

151 Time Magazine has had an "editorial policy" against gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment since the 90s. They openly announced they would not print anything positive about guns or gun owners.

And abandoned all ethics completely at that time, becoming a political propaganda outlet in toto.

"Journalists" are so fucking reprehensible, as a group, that sometimes I'm at a loss for words.

But usually I have words for that. Like "traitors to everything honest and honorable."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:29 PM (bxiXv)

152 *wasn't*

Posted by: tcn at January 26, 2013 05:30 PM (VLG62)

153 Yep, only way is when they claim the prize. Though even that might be suspect if they don't write the law correctly.

Up in Canada two gambling addicts who joined the government gambling addicts program that barred them from entering casinos are suing the government. Why? They claim, after sneaking back in and losing tens of thousands more dollars, they are entitled to the few thousand they won but the casinos refused to award them. They say the law does not prevent them from claiming their prizes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:30 PM (shmgt)

154 I can never remember that gals name Heather. Someone here will know it and probably post a link to her, I think, Senate testimony. God it was heart wrenching.
She really stuck it to Shumer. The only time in my life I've been in love with two women. Her and my ex wife.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 05:30 PM (tF9LY)

155 Yeah, Adam. I won't go into BWW now because I know what happens in gun-free zones.

Most of the safety that guns provide is in the knowledge that they might be there.

The safest sign is one that says "There might be a gun here. You never know, but we do have employees who are permitted to carry and some of them do."

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:30 PM (xSegX)

156 Was one of teh moron's working on an app that you could use to find conservative-friendly products? I think it would show a flaming skull when the product was not moron-worthy.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 26, 2013 05:31 PM (m0v2L)

157 144
"Framingham, MA man. Blotto on booze. Tries to kidnap the woman from

Gino's Pizza delivering his pizza. Says he wants her for his wife."

Is that wrong? If I knew that kind of thing was frowned upon.


Well, yes on several fronts

First, why would he want to marry her?


Second, the pizza was getting cold.


Third, was his drunk priest there too?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:31 PM (wR+pz)

158 I garuantee the customers that day wished someone was packing."

A girl who later became a Texas state congresswoman (I believe ) had her gun in her car, and had a clear shot at the shooter. Instead, both her parents were killed. All because.it was a gun free zone.

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 05:31 PM (wsGWu)

159 You might want to follow this story about GEICO when considering which insurance company to use:

http://tinyurl.com/b4zkzbp (PJ Media)

I assume everyone here already knows that Progressive Ins. is run by a big time Obamabot.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 26, 2013 05:31 PM (ccXZP)

160 Umm see 146

Posted by: awkward davies at January 26, 2013 05:32 PM (USjX1)

161 Time cover, last week.



http://tinyurl.com/akr2k5n

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:33 PM (wR+pz)

162 "Journalists" are so fucking reprehensible, as a group, that sometimes I'm at a loss for words. But usually I have words for that. Like "traitors to everything honest and honorable."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:29 PM (bxiXv)


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The whole MFM cabal needs to be burned to the ground and then seeded with salt.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:33 PM (EKcuo)

163 I wonder what her name is.....

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2013 05:33 PM (MPjT8)

164 When he started blustering at me, I told him it must be quite a burden to him being the smartest person he knows.

Suppose I'll get a passing grade this semester?
Posted by: tcn at January 26, 2013 05:29 PM (VLG62)


Probably would have been worth saying "Must be a great burden to be the only person you know who gives a shit what you think. You think you students respect you? They just care about grades and tact more than I do. You're a childish, ignorant buffoon."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:34 PM (bxiXv)

165 I'm not saying all Gays are Australian, I'm saying all Australians are Gay.

Posted by: mike3481 at January 26, 2013 05:34 PM (LJU64)

166 http://tinyurl.com/akr2k5n


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:33 PM (wR+pz)

That right there is comedy gold.

Posted by: tcn at January 26, 2013 05:34 PM (VLG62)

167 132 Meh. Grapevine roots grow pretty deep. He runs cattle so fertilizer is no problem. Build the trellises when you plant the vines. Those are easy. Cut em back after the growing season and tie em to supports every 2 or 3 weeks during growing season. Like I said it would be for personal use and a lot would be used just as grapes and making jelly.

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Sounds like you know the drill, teej.
As long as you can get some water to them when they need it, you'll have some grapes to use.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2013 05:34 PM (fH4X9)

168 Um, understand that sometimes things are posted while you're writing your own comment. Or just be a dick whatever.

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 05:35 PM (wsGWu)

169 <<After discovering that the NRA was selling four of its wines on the
club’s international list, winemaker Yalumba is seeking to detach itself
from the NRA, Fox News reports.>>

Bullshit.

Complete bullshit.

There isn't a winery in the world that doesn't know where each and every single one of its bottles goes and is sold to. Yalumba didn't just "discover" this; they've gotten some pressure and are seeking to capitalize with the lefties.

They're going to be crying a year from now when they "discover" their bank account is half the size it was when they were with the NRA.

Posted by: Sgt. York at January 26, 2013 05:35 PM (jEvoA)

170 Time cover, last week.http://tinyurl.com/akr2k5n
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:33 PM (wR+pz)


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Hot tar and feathers.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:35 PM (EKcuo)

171 165
I'm not saying all Gays are Australian, I'm saying all Australians are Gay.


Want to say that to my face mate? I'll show you my knife.

Posted by: Crocodile Dundee at January 26, 2013 05:35 PM (wR+pz)

172 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:34 PM (bxiXv)

I also considered reminding him that touching a female student could get him into so serious legal trouble, but I figure he already knows that.


He also is going to grace us with two classes of him demonstrating "self defense" with his black belt in judo. I really can't wait. No, really, I can't wait.

Posted by: tcn at January 26, 2013 05:36 PM (VLG62)

173 Suzanna Gratia Hupp is a former Republican member of the Texas House of Representatives, who represented traditionally Democratic District 54 for ten years from 1997-2007. After surviving the Luby's massacre in 1991, Hupp became a leading advocate of an individual's right to carry a concealed weapon. She was elected to her first term in 1996, but did not seek a sixth two-year term in 2006. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at January 26, 2013 05:36 PM (QupBk)

174 This shit is so stupid. If I owned a winery, I'd be happy to have my product on the wine club of the CPUSA. Business is business.

Posted by: Jason at January 26, 2013 05:36 PM (6VB4r)

175 tcn, use your cellphone to record his Kung-Fool prowess. I hope this guy is not the infamous BATF gun safety instructor. You know the one who who had that accident while teaching a class.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:37 PM (shmgt)

176 He also is going to grace us with two classes of him demonstrating "self defense" with his black belt in judo.

Can you shoot him with a water pistol from the back of the room while this is going on, or will that you get arrested and expelled?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 05:37 PM (ZKzrr)

177 Last Thursday he explained how dangerous it would be for anyone to concealed carry who was as highly trained as the police force.

See, that is so much first-order thinking. There are no unintended consequences in his mind.

But you don't get to be an English major because you're good at deductive reasoning.

I know it might be for him, but for people with IQs over 80, a gun is not complicated.

But, hey, in England rape is twice as likely as in the US. Australia is three times. Both were less than the US before their gun bans.

I told him it must be quite a burden to him being the smartest person he knows.

Not even close. That is, if your school has a math department, or a physics department, or a chemistry department, or an engineering department, or an underwater basketweaving department...

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:38 PM (xSegX)

178 Geico lost me in the 90s when the gave free radar speed detectors to police *on the condition* that they met a certain quota of tickets handed out.

It's the latter part that matters, creating a financial incentive for police to increase handing out penalties that then raise insurance rates for their customers?

Yeah, I don't need Geico.

Ironically, if they had just omitted that condition, no one would have noticed.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:38 PM (bxiXv)

179 174
This shit is so stupid. If I owned a winery, I'd be happy to have my
product on the wine club of the CPUSA. Business is business.


The South learned that. After fighting the 64 civil rights law, they discovered that a Black's money was still green. Come on in brother and have lunch.


Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:38 PM (wR+pz)

180 Billy Bob or use the PRC's pragmatic look at capitalism. White cat or black cat, as long as the bills are paid.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:39 PM (shmgt)

181 A Wisconsin protester who spit on a Mitt Romney supporter last year
during an event in Grand Chute will be fined but not criminally charged.

http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/188490061.html

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 05:40 PM (ZKzrr)

182 Can a billionaire, a Vice President and a shooting victim stop the violence?

Short answer: no. Longer answer: Are you fucking kidding me?

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at January 26, 2013 05:40 PM (QupBk)

183 This shit is so stupid. If I owned a winery, I'd be happy to have my product on the wine club of the CPUSA. Business is business.
Posted by: Jason at January 26, 2013 05:36 PM (6VB4r)


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There you go. And it would be even more delicious knowing that leftists are sipping right-wing, Constitutional wine.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2013 05:40 PM (EKcuo)

184 dammit

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 26, 2013 05:40 PM (QupBk)

185 Suzanna Hupp morons

Posted by: RWC at January 26, 2013 05:41 PM (sqp6o)

186 V.I. Lenin, "We will hang the last Capitalist with the rope he sells us." IIRC.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:41 PM (shmgt)

187 180
Billy Bob or use the PRC's pragmatic look at capitalism. White cat or black cat, as long as the bills are paid.


Most capitalist place I have ever been, China. They make you pay to send your kid to elementary school. No pay, no go.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:41 PM (wR+pz)

188 Heh, I wouldn't say I "know" the drill wheatie. I tend to do fairly well when I grow foodstuffs even when I don't really "know" what I'm doing.
A pond, a pump and some irrigation tubing (one of his businesses so that would come cheap) would handle the water needs for the first few years while the roots are going deep.
You know, I really should see if him and his wife would adopt me.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 05:42 PM (m4AUe)

189 He also is going to grace us with two classes of him demonstrating "self defense" with his black belt in judo. I really can't wait. No, really, I can't wait.

Posted by: tcn at January 26, 2013 05:36 PM (VLG62)


That's why Chinese Communists with guns were defeated by traditional martial artists and China is run by Buddhists to this day.

Wait, what?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:42 PM (bxiXv)

190 Sorry Lauren, in my ignorance I assumed someone was genuinely curious , I didn't know Emily fuckin' Post would be looking over my shoulder .
Your obedient servant etc,etc, ,
awkward davies ,

Posted by: awkward davies at January 26, 2013 05:42 PM (USjX1)

191 Thank you for keeping me entertained all day, morons.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ ♥ The Mayor at January 26, 2013 05:42 PM (ZKzrr)

192 LOL Merovign, yeah his Shao-Lin got run over by Mao's tank.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:43 PM (shmgt)

193 Each bathtub has it's own set of grime and bacteria that give each bottle its own unique flavor.

It's the mildew and rust stains that make the bouquet.

Posted by: DaveA at January 26, 2013 05:43 PM (hOlQL)

194 Her testimony

http://tinyurl.com/24o88q2


Love when she says the 2nd is meant to protect us (waves hand at the people in attendance) against you (points at congresscritters)

Posted by: RWC at January 26, 2013 05:43 PM (sqp6o)

195 43 Teej,

Any state that wants to come can....

the key is the middle corridor to Canadian shale...

fucking cocksucking asshole motherfucking DC bastard politicians....

oh hey come on the fuck in burn out fucking flag demand the US flag be taken down....


I hate the fucking democrats with a passion and the GOP casually

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:43 PM (LRFds)

196 Mmmmm . . . I don't know what ass actually tastes like - but this tastes like what I think it would taste like. I'm picking up clarion notes of dick, hints of nightshade a with an overall leathery ass flavor.

/swirls glass in light/

Mmm hmmm. Ass wine!

Posted by: Yolu at January 26, 2013 05:44 PM (r+Bir)

197 Speaking of learning Black's money is green.


Can you believe that McDonalds in the South were segregated at one time?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:44 PM (wR+pz)

198 Remember that chick from Texas whose folks got killed in Luby's? What was her name again?

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 05:44 PM (Fz2C7)

199 Posted by: tcn at January 26, 2013 05:36 PM (VLG62)

Omg, I just flashed backto a Monty Python skit where the instructer in a self-defense course asksa student to pretend to attack him, and then pulls out a gun and shoots him when he complies...

Not many takers attacking the instructer after THAT one!

Posted by: HH at January 26, 2013 05:45 PM (XXwdv)

200 I seriously lol whenever I hear some dumb ass talking about "highly trained police officers". Like those NYC cops who managed to shoot several other people as well as the bad guy?


My uncle is a cop and he says a lot of guys only shoot their weapon twice a year. Once to practice a few days before they have to qualify, and then to qualify. According to him at least one guy every year ends up shooting the floor when they're practicing drawing and firing. "Highly trained" indeed.

Posted by: Adam at January 26, 2013 05:45 PM (/YJYi)

201 198 Remember that chick from Texas whose folks got killed in Luby's? What was her name again?

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 05:44 PM (Fz2C7)

--Didn't she say something about regretting leaving her crossbow in the car that day?

Posted by: logprof at January 26, 2013 05:46 PM (OLdtM)

202 A low bow would never fit in a booth at Lubby's. Advantage: cross bow.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 26, 2013 05:47 PM (QupBk)

203 --Didn't she say something about regretting leaving her crossbow in the car that day?



Pretty sure it was just a trident.

Posted by: Adam at January 26, 2013 05:47 PM (/YJYi)

204 Thought it was a recurve bow

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 26, 2013 05:47 PM (shmgt)

205 or a long bow, or maybe a low blow

fuck it.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 26, 2013 05:47 PM (QupBk)

206 198 lowandslow,

Suzanna Hupp is who you're looking for.

God bless Texas.

http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2013/01/22/suzanna-hupp-guns

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:47 PM (LRFds)

207 deadly poisoned caltrops are an often overlooked defensive weapon.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 26, 2013 05:48 PM (QupBk)

208 The South learned that. After fighting the 64 civil rights law, they discovered that a Black's money was still green. Come on in brother and have lunch.

Most of the discrimination was imposed by government. There were some businesses who would use discrimination in order to keep their clientele white, but it wasn't a good strategy for any business hoping to grow.

Capitalism makes people nice to each other.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:48 PM (xSegX)

209
198 Remember that chick from Texas whose folks got killed in Luby's? What was her name again?

==========
Somebody said she's in Congress but I don't know the details.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2013 05:48 PM (MPjT8)

210 200 Adam,

Cops are awesome....ever since they went to semi-autos they are more spray and pray happy than the worst of the US Army soldiers who trained ONLY on quick fire...


67 shots 9 in the perp 15 in bystanders the rest in a nice kill pocket that only luck kept clear.

Nice work boys

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:49 PM (LRFds)

211
@HeatherRadish,

In fairness, I'm not saying we are forcing them, I'm just not entirely sure it's worth saying "BWW doesn't allow guns, never give them your money now."
Now if they start advocating specifically for an expansion of that using government force, we're got an entirely different barrel of bees as it was.
Sometimes business choices (not alowing smoking for example) don't always mesh up with your personal thoughts on an issue. In this particular case I suppose they figured being vocal about the no guns would draw in more customers than those who wouldn't come in without their guns. Same thing when resturants started not allowing smoking of their own accord (for some places, like nice sitdown joints it made sense not to allow smoking, for others like bars it was remarkably stupid, that's why they didn't tend to do it on their own.)

The Wine and Intuit things are stupid because it's not even remotely close to the same thing. Intuit offering credit card services to an FFL dealer has no bearing on their ability to offer the same service to the vegan coffee shop (or whatever hippie did the bitching.) Ditto for the wine.

Posted by: tsrblke at January 26, 2013 05:49 PM (GaqMa)

212 208 Amish Dude,

Capitalism does make folks nice to each other, when their racial antipathy is not being cultivated by tax dollars like ass wine in a prison...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:50 PM (LRFds)

213 It's well past time to start keeping a traitor list that can be easily updated and broadly disseminated on some sort of internet network.

All persons and entities listed here (Intuit, Yolumba, Time etc.) have demonstrated a preference for a centrally planned, state dominated systematic crushing of individual rights, freedoms, and choices guaranteed by The Constitution.

Know their identities and totalitarian aims while considering your future interaction.

Or something to that effect.
I'm sure plenty of people here could come up with something better.

It could be called The Red List.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2013 05:50 PM (aZ6ew)

214 A longbow is more accurate shooting down Luby's thirty foot buffet table.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2013 05:50 PM (Fz2C7)

215 Nice headline btw, Andy. Subtle, like a caltrop to the ball of the foot.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 26, 2013 05:50 PM (QupBk)

216 202 A low bow would never fit in a booth at Lubby's. Advantage: cross bow.

Posted by: toby928© presents at January 26, 2013 05:47 PM (QupBk)


Biden thinks a Duck Gun would be ideal for that situation.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:51 PM (bxiXv)

217 Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:49 PM (LRFds)


But their record against domesticated dogs is awesome!

Posted by: RWC at January 26, 2013 05:51 PM (sqp6o)

218 188 Heh, I wouldn't say I "know" the drill wheatie. I tend to do fairly well when I grow foodstuffs even when I don't really "know" what I'm doing. A pond, a pump and some irrigation tubing (one of his businesses so that would come cheap) would handle the water needs for the first few years while the roots are going deep.

------------

When you get ready to do it, teej...it'd be a good idea to get your rootstock from a midwestern vineyard.
That way your vines would be more 'climatized' to the area.

Cynthiana or Norton are good hearty US varieties, that are more disease resistant that the imported ones.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2013 05:51 PM (fH4X9)

219 @ 210


Try shooting an M14 on auto--after the 3rd round, you got an AA battery. Flippin muzzle climb is terrible, unless you use a bipod.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 26, 2013 05:52 PM (SAMxH)

220 @210

The web never forgets.


http://tinyurl.com/budvsox

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:52 PM (wR+pz)

221 Sorry nazis, "he" and his wife.

I'll bet if you search Suzanna Hupp on U tube you'd find her testimony. It is worth the watch.
She tells Shumer something like 'the 2nd Amend isn't there so we can hunt. It's there so people like us can protect ourselves from people like you.'
And I'm always all choked up by the time she gets to that point.
She flat took those jack asses to school the whole time.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 05:52 PM (b9+ZZ)

222 217 RWC,

yeah oddly sparky the k-9 doesn't really counter volley very often...

hey if we law abiders are to be disarmed "to be like England" why don't we fucking disarm law enforcement too?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:52 PM (LRFds)

223 221 Teej,

Amen,

the 2d amendment is there to keep us out of ovens end of story.....

the Chinaman gets it, the Jews who vote GOP get it, I get it, you get it, and hey guess what Cocksucker Schumer gets it too....

he just doesn't want the risk

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:54 PM (LRFds)

224
Just sent a nice little FU note to Yalumba. Signed it "an American citizen."

Posted by: rrpjr at January 26, 2013 05:54 PM (ztbYQ)

225 She flat took those jack asses to school the whole time.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 05:52 PM (b9+ZZ)


They flunked out because they didn't learn anything.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 05:54 PM (bxiXv)

226 They just want to ban guns as powerful or high-capacity as the ones their security forces have.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2013 05:55 PM (MPjT8)

227 OK , I'm sipping Dewars and chasing with Budweiser .

"Who want's a piece a me ? Says awkward davies bellowing like a drunk about to get his ass kicked by the quiet 50 yr. old guy that used to box middle weight but is now a plumber .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 26, 2013 05:55 PM (USjX1)

228 219 Irongrampa,

God bless you guys....I know....part of why I made peace with the 5.56 was having shot a Garand on quick speed and watching hop....

up, up, up down heh

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:55 PM (LRFds)

229 Suzanna Hupp's testimony:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:56 PM (xSegX)

230 I think the next time I order wine at a restaurant I'm going to ask the sommelier to give me a history of the political affiliations of every vintner on their wine list, while I sniff my nose in disdain and eventually order tap water.

Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2013 05:56 PM (WM+rJ)

231 Is it just me or is the thread dead?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 05:57 PM (wR+pz)

232 Doesn't the HQ have its own sommelier? He probably spits in our wine because he got savaged here one night.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2013 05:58 PM (MPjT8)

233 231 Billy Bob,

I guess I poked my head in at work and came back...


good to know that wanting the law followed is "racist" you'll find no greater friend to the legal immigrant than me, I say to every one of them "welcome home I am glad you're here."

Black, Asian, Hispanic doesn't matter....

but Amnesty?

This will destroy our party.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 05:59 PM (LRFds)

234 BTW, the video I linked is 4 minutes longer with other stuff. Her testimony is about 5 minutes. I just found it with a quick search.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 05:59 PM (xSegX)

235 If you are an NRA member write them now and demand that Jim Baker, head of the federal affairs division at the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action be publicly repudiated and fired.

http://tinyurl.com/bcef6hx

(Reuters) - One of the National Rifle Association's senior lobbyists said an ad by the nation's leading gun-rights group after a school shooting in Connecticut that refers to President Barack Obama's children was "ill-advised."

Posted by: sandbagger at January 26, 2013 06:00 PM (5HC3v)

236 Mental note: never buy Yalumba. Good for us all, there are tons of brands out there. Anyone had a Rombauer Zin outta California? Phenominal bottle. about $30 a bottle but WELL worth it.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Ballz Und Sheft at January 26, 2013 06:00 PM (0SmH0)

237 Henceforth, I'm only buying weed grown in red, right-to-work states.

Posted by: the dude at January 26, 2013 06:01 PM (CypDC)

238 You know, I certainly disagree with being an anti-gun weenie, but that's the guy's right.

What actually BOTHERS me about the owner's statement is that he's sure that all of his employees agree with his politics.

Think about it.

Posted by: Synova at January 26, 2013 06:01 PM (7/PU+)

239
118Just made a call to Hooters. Ordered some wings. I like going to Hooters. Hooters have nice things.

The food is vile, but yeah, it's worth going to anyway



Hooter's has food?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 26, 2013 06:02 PM (m0v2L)

240 When did Australia get so pussified?

And USS Diversity, the HQ's sommelier is the whoever steals the next crate of Valu-Rite vodka.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:02 PM (7xPCu)

241 >>>Doesn't the HQ have its own sommelier? He probably spits in our wine because he got savaged here one night.

Yes, but it was only a good-natured ribbing. My hat is off to anyone who can make a decent living as a wine steward, - sort of an overly specialized profession, if you ask me.

Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2013 06:02 PM (WM+rJ)

242 No pulse, no signs of respiration. Ok.... let's call it. Time of death is 6:02.

Posted by: Dr Truck Monkey at January 26, 2013 06:03 PM (jucos)

243 Hooter's has shitty beer. They need a beer sommelier. With a 38C wine rack.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2013 06:03 PM (MPjT8)

244 What actually BOTHERS me about the owner's statement is that he's sure that all of his employees agree with his politics.

It's political bullying. You agree with me, right? You wouldn't want to be racist or anything would you?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 06:03 PM (xSegX)

245 When did Australia get so pussified?

I'm not sure when it started, but the final nail was when they mandated voting.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 26, 2013 06:04 PM (xSegX)

246 Anyway, back from the walk for life at the capital. Good crowd. Signed a petition to defund PP, and yelled a lot.

Perry and Abbot rocked. Totally take no prisoners kind of rocked. Also look for the next legislative session to require the abortion mills to comply with the same regs as any medical clinic. Good stuff.

Posted by: Invictus at January 26, 2013 06:05 PM (OQpzc)

247 A penny saved is a penny earned, but a stolen case of beer gets you a hell of a lot drunker.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:05 PM (7xPCu)

248 Jim Baker, the former Sec of the State, is a limp dick swish. I am assuming this the same Jim Baker, Rhino, from Houston.


How do I really feel?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 06:05 PM (wR+pz)

249 >>>226 They just want to ban guns as powerful or high-capacity as the ones their security forces have.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2013 05:55 PM (MPjT


It's worse than that. They are exempting anyone who is on the government payroll.

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 26, 2013 06:06 PM (I2LwF)

250 Sorry Lauren, in my ignorance I assumed someone was genuinely curious , I didn't know Emily fuckin' Post would be looking over my shoulder . Your obedient servant etc,etc, , awkward davies

Starting your post with "umm" suggests condescension. If that wasn't your intent, I apologize.

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 06:07 PM (wsGWu)

251 Since we are talking about stupid companies and boycotts and such. Remember Absolut Vodka's ad campaign that gave 1/2 of the US to Mexico? I haven't had it since.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 26, 2013 06:07 PM (jucos)

252 249 Truman North,

Yeah about that and fuck Godwin...

you ever notice the SA had guns after they disarmed Germany?

There you have it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:08 PM (LRFds)

253 Boy, liberals do seem to love restraint of free trade. They seem to love capitalism like they love the Military?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2013 06:08 PM (jE38p)

254 Also look for the next legislative session to require the abortion mills to comply with the same regs as any medical clinic. Good stuff."


Regulations like that just made Mississippi the first state in the Union with zero abortion clinics! Happy day.

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 06:08 PM (wsGWu)

255 It's worse than that. They are exempting anyone who is on the government payroll.
Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 26, 2013 06:06 PM (I2LwF)

I've been doing my best to get a government job. Seems like a growth industry now that even the Rs aren't even giving lip service to cutting any spending. I think the secret is out. Government will cut its own spending never.

Posted by: Invictus at January 26, 2013 06:09 PM (OQpzc)

256 Also look for the next legislative session to require the abortion mills to comply with the same regs as any medical clinic. Good stuff. Posted by: Invictus at January 26, 2013 06:05 PM (OQpzc)But standard medical practice is RACIST or something.Wymyns rights demand they be allowed to die after a botched procedure because it takes it takes too long to get to the hosptial.(As an aside, my Mom used to work a a laser eye center, even they had to be located right across the street from a hospital and have an emergancy plan...I guess in case someone got woozy from the eyedrops or something.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 26, 2013 06:09 PM (GaqMa)

257 Awesome, Invictus!

Haven't heard bupkis about it except at Twitchy.

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 26, 2013 06:09 PM (I2LwF)

258 251 Since we are talking about stupid companies and boycotts and such. Remember Absolut Vodka's ad campaign that gave 1/2 of the US to Mexico? I haven't had it since.

Haven't seen it, but which half are we talking about?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:09 PM (7xPCu)

259 255 Invictus,

well unless you're willing to die for your nation if need be....those jobs can be cut....

"discretionary spending"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:10 PM (LRFds)

260 Since we are talking about stupid companies and boycotts and such. Remember Absolut Vodka's ad campaign that gave 1/2 of the US to Mexico? I haven't had it since.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 26, 2013 06:07 PM (jucos)

My dad owned a liquor store ( I should have gone into that business, but I digress) and had his own brand "Colonel's Own" in honor of his rank when he retired. I'm still drinking that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2013 06:10 PM (jE38p)

261 Absolute Mexican Ad.



http://tinyurl.com/6ppo88

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 06:12 PM (wR+pz)

262 Regulations like that just made Mississippi the first state in the Union with zero abortion clinics! Happy day.
Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 06:08 PM (wsGWu)

It is the least we can do to ensure the safety of those poor women. Why liberals want them to use what is, effectively, a veterinary clinic is beyond me.

Posted by: Invictus at January 26, 2013 06:12 PM (OQpzc)

263 And yes, I do see the irony of a conservative championing regulations. Of course, our reasons are the same as liberals, we're just more honest. We're trying to get less of an activity by complicating the procedure involved in obtaining it. Crazy that Libs seem to perfectly understand this concept when it's directed against one of their sacred cows.

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 06:12 PM (wsGWu)

264 Still banned?

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 06:13 PM (t9e6Q)

265
This thread is more alive than my little man in the boat.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 26, 2013 06:13 PM (ndqJC)

266 Google Dr Carhart in Nebraska. His "clinic" makes a crack house look like the Ritz.

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 06:14 PM (wsGWu)

267 265

This thread is more alive than my little man in the boat.


Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 26, 2013 06:13 PM (ndqJC)

I thought you towel heads cut that thing off.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 06:14 PM (wR+pz)

268 265
This thread is more alive than my little man in the boat.
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 26, 2013 06:13 PM (ndqJC)

What you just heard was a collective sigh of relief.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:14 PM (7xPCu)

269 Reds only? Crap. I can't drink reds, they trip off my migraines like flipping a switch.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 26, 2013 06:14 PM (Gk3SS)

270 269 AlexTheChick,

You like Chablis?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:15 PM (LRFds)

271 @269

True that. It's the histamines or the tannins.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 06:16 PM (wR+pz)

272 You like Chablis?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:15 PM (LRFds)


Why not. He was a hell of a first basemen for the Yankees in the day!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2013 06:16 PM (jE38p)

273
Muslims remove the clitoris and also excise the lips for cleanliness and Allah.
It's a freaky ritual we love and wish upon all women in the world.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 26, 2013 06:17 PM (ndqJC)

274 You like Chablis?


Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:15 PM (LRFds)



Sometimes. I'll be honest, I'm trending back to either sparkling wines or vodka based drinks only.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 26, 2013 06:17 PM (Gk3SS)

275 266 Google Dr Carhart in Nebraska. His "clinic" makes a crack house look like the Ritz.
Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 06:14 PM (wsGWu)

Not gonna go there...let me guess...part abbatoir, part uterus scraping facility?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:18 PM (7xPCu)

276 273

Muslims remove the clitoris and also excise the lips for cleanliness and Allah.
It's a freaky ritual we love and wish upon all women in the world.


Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 26, 2013 06:17 PM (ndqJC)

So, do you fry it up or steam it? Red sauce?

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 06:18 PM (wR+pz)

277 I have 17 gallons of pear wine under the cupboard patiently waiting for an April bottling.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 26, 2013 06:19 PM (m0v2L)

278 276 273

Muslims remove the clitoris and also excise the lips for cleanliness and Allah.
It's a freaky ritual we love and wish upon all women in the world.


Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 26, 2013 06:17 PM (ndqJC)

So, do you fry it up or steam it? Red sauce?
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 26, 2013 06:18 PM (wR+pz)

Pickled.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:19 PM (7xPCu)

279 I have 17 gallons of pear wine under the cupboard patiently waiting for an April bottling.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 26, 2013 06:19 PM (m0v2L)


You didn't lose my address did ya?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2013 06:19 PM (jE38p)

280
My favorite part is circumcision where the part-time surgeon can make three skins a day and a chance to get a-head.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 26, 2013 06:20 PM (ndqJC)

281
After reading the last post i gotta drink about a gallon. yeek.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 26, 2013 06:20 PM (m0v2L)

282 274 AlexTheChick,

I liked light blushes and reds, but zinfidels can be good the main thing is a good sipper.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:21 PM (LRFds)

283 Whew. Got a banned message a few times.
Shot off an email, came right back and bam, I'm good to go.

That was some kinda service. I highly recommended the lead membership level folks.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 06:21 PM (OqOKd)

284 280
My favorite part is circumcision where the part-time surgeon can make three skins a day and a chance to get a-head.
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at January 26, 2013 06:20 PM (ndqJC)

Doesn't that dull the chainsaw?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:21 PM (7xPCu)

285 272 NGU,

I felt he should have retired the year before he did....he kept stumbling...

or was that me?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:22 PM (LRFds)

286 It isn't any old government job. You need to figure out how to get into the Government Class. Something like working for a congressman or the NEA. Something that gives you some leftist bona fides.

And sven: the reason the nazis were able to swept the country is that they had horrible economic conditions, rampant joblessness, etc., and a boogeyman in the Joos.

Almost like Obama is using 1927-33 Germany as his blueprint.

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 26, 2013 06:22 PM (I2LwF)

287
When I six-years I circumcised myself with my Boy Scout knife.

Posted by: Joe at January 26, 2013 06:22 PM (ndqJC)

288 287
When I six-years I circumcised myself with my Boy Scout knife.
Posted by: Joe at January 26, 2013 06:22 PM (ndqJC)

Why did you wait so long?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:23 PM (7xPCu)

289
I also heard the New Town shooting from afar.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 26, 2013 06:23 PM (ndqJC)

290 249 Good point Truman. The wording I saw referred to "government officials", which is a bullshit meaningless term. LEO, on the other hand, is defined by law at the state and federal levels. So yes, they mean any government employees, our new apparatchik class.

Posted by: the dude at January 26, 2013 06:23 PM (CypDC)

291
Hillary really stuck it up the Republican's ass in the committee hearing. She's a butt stompin' bitch, and I'm gonna kick her ass in '16.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 26, 2013 06:24 PM (ndqJC)

292 286 Truman North,

Absolutely and what's worse is we are in a VOLUNTARY downturn.

They are doing this ON PURPOSE.

God I hate these fucking cocksucking democrat bastards in the granola movement...

Weak ass GOP....there's liable to be a shooting civil war in the next 10-30 years.

All I want is a healthy economy based on real sustainable growth and the EPA and Union's dick out of the people's asses and the fucking educators, hollywood and news media are brainwashing cocksuckers to self-destruct our nation.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:25 PM (LRFds)

293 "government officials"

OS that what they're calling DHS's new youth army now?

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 06:26 PM (OqOKd)

294 Wine? Don't you troglodyte white oppressors who want more guns to kill persons of color and gay people with all drink moonshine and use meth like the redneck racist trailor-trash pigs you all are, just because you are all prejudiced and stuff!!1! You probably all make moonshine from the tears of all the barefoot and pregnant womyn to all oppress you oppressors!!1!

NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!1!`~`!!eleventy!!!!1!
NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!1!`~`!!eleventy!!!!1!
NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!1!`~`!!eleventy!!!!1!

Posted by: Social Science Graduate Students at January 26, 2013 06:27 PM (Vk2pI)

295 I felt he should have retired the year before he did....he kept stumbling...

or was that me?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:22 PM (LRFds)


Your talking about A-rod right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2013 06:27 PM (jE38p)

296 OS = Is

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 06:27 PM (OqOKd)

297 Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:25 PM (LRFds)

Well, we all want most everyone else to die a slow, horrible death, but like some heroin junkie said: you can't always get what you want.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:27 PM (7xPCu)

298 Dont worry, Sven.

Texas is my home. Whatever Texas decides to do, I'll follow.

Posted by: Invictus at January 26, 2013 06:29 PM (OQpzc)

299 I 'll put in a plug for Michigans wines the Traverse Bay Spiced Cherry wine is very good and a nice touch for the Holidays.

Posted by: Catseye at January 26, 2013 06:30 PM (c7wu3)

300 Hooter's has food?

Yeah, but the clams always taste off...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 06:30 PM (hpDVh)

301 "So I have this seriously asshat teacher for 'Written Communications'
which is a requirement for med lab tech degree. He pontificates about
everything except the subject matter for the class. Last Thursday he
explained how dangerous it would be for anyone to concealed carry who
was as highly trained as the police force. I said he was full of it."

I've told all our younger family members how to deal with this shit from the mandarins of the education-industrial complex.

Smile. Nod. Parrot back precisely what you've heard. Add a few fillips along the lines of "I've never thought about that before. This course has really opened my eyes."

Afterward, anonymously tear the prof a new asshole on ratemyprofessor and any other review vehicle you can find. "Pontificates about
everything except the subject matter for the class," just as you said, would be a perfect starting point.

For the untenured, as those bad reviews stack up, their career prospects start to fade.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 26, 2013 06:30 PM (gqT4g)

302 Re: NLRB - once again, Obama is in open defiance of the courts.

Come on, join the Impeach Train!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 06:31 PM (bxiXv)

303 Yeah, but the clams always taste off...
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 06:30 PM (hpDVh)

They are fresher than the truck stop. Trust me.

Posted by: Invictus at January 26, 2013 06:31 PM (OQpzc)

304 "Here is a simple recipe for 30 day wine. Many
old hillbillies here in Tennessee still use this one, and wouldn't have it any
other way. They don't want any Cabernet, Merlot or Champagne; this is Tennessee,
not France. Back during my teens I used to make this, but now grow my own grapes
and pick fruits in the wild." SouthernWine


24 oz Welch's frozen concentrated grape
juice, thawed
3 cups sugar
water to make up one gallon
¼ tsp dry yeast
1 1-gallon glass jug.
Mix
all ingredients together well with water filling jug to about an inch below the
shoulders. Cover with a clean rag secured with rubber band. Keep in a dark place
about 70 degrees. About 2 weeks later replace rag with a good thick piece of
plastic wrap. After 30 days from starting date, siphon wine off from sediment in
bottom and drink. For a good old "Mad Dog 20/20" type wine, add a pint of cheap
blackberry brandy to the mix before drinking.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 26, 2013 06:32 PM (m0v2L)

305 302 Re: NLRB - once again, Obama is in open defiance of the courts.

Come on, join the Impeach Train!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2013 06:31 PM (bxiXv)

Impeach? Pfft...I'm thinking that being put in stocks and having rotten fruit thrown at that asshole would be too kind.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:33 PM (7xPCu)

306 Lauren , it was just my lame attempt at humor . Didn't mean to come off as a dick .
I'm not foolish enough to be condescending around here , seein' as how I probably have less formal education and less income than 99% of the commenters at the hq .
Hey , wait , I'm a 1%er . Cool .
















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Posted by: awkward davies at January 26, 2013 06:33 PM (USjX1)

307 TCN,

I'm like you, I'd love to have some land where I could grow grapes or other fruit and make my own wine. Perhaps even a little brandy every couple of years...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 06:34 PM (hpDVh)

308 307 TCN,

I'm like you, I'd love to have some land where I could grow grapes or other fruit and make my own wine. Perhaps even a little brandy every couple of years...
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 06:34 PM (hpDVh)

Brandy means you must have the means to be distillin'.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:35 PM (7xPCu)

309 297 mode_1066,

Guy I've been here 10 years I am not some raging lunatic nutjob conspiracy kook no matter how rabid I've been this year but something is up or in the air.

It frightens me that I keep coming back to the UN trying to play disarm games, Barry's people laughing about spigot cities, this push to try to nibble at the 2d Amendment and declare long arms capable of parity with govt eqpt verboten, the GOP suddenly deciding "hell yeah AMNESTY it worked great for us in 2006!"

I don't want democrats in camps I want the able to shut the fuck up and accept lower pay to do work....I don't want a dirty environment but I want prosperity and growth factored the fuck in to the EPA's fantasy life......

The Democrats are about one or maybe two cycles from trying to destroy my way of life as open policy and the GOP is at best trying to make it two or three.

I am so lost about when in the fuck the idea of the hyperegulatory vulture state became baseline operating procedure for the Republic....

Dear God we are 17+ trill in the fucking hole...I remember the bragging going on when we broke 1 trillion in revenue the first time.

Dear Jesus he doubled the debt and this nation is demonstrably not better off than 15 years ago in infrastructure or defense posture....

YOU CANNOT TAX YOUR WAY TO HAPPINESS NOR DEFICIT SPEND TO IT!

WHY WON'T PEOPLE WORK!?!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:36 PM (LRFds)

310 Brandy means you must have the means to be distillin'.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:35 PM (7xPCu)

Just make sure the radiator you scavenge from a wreck is for the stuff you sell Humongus' men.

Posted by: Invictus at January 26, 2013 06:38 PM (OQpzc)

311 298 Invictus,

Amen, I'll either be down there or next door in la la land trying to help you brother.

I cannot grasp why more Red Hearted Blue State prisoners are not compressing amongst our areas?

I plan to make it my life's mission to bring people down and try starting low level industry for real gain...

we have to outwork the sonsofbitches in Blue Land.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:38 PM (LRFds)

312 Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:36 PM (LRFds)

It frightens me that you would think that appealing to the UN in defense of the US would do any good in the first place....no offense. The UN is the ANTI US...they are all about the collective, hive-minded douchebaggery that is infesting our great country right now, and my hatred for that organization keeps me warm at night.
We're on the same side.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:41 PM (7xPCu)

313
Dear God we are 17+ trill in the fucking
hole...I remember the bragging going on when we broke 1 trillion in
revenue the first time.



Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:36 PM (LRFds)

We are closer to 100 trillion in debt. Social Security and Medicaid promises make up the bulk of unfunded obligations. This is why i'm expecting very bad things.

The only way to "fix" these problems is to hyperinflate the money, or kill off the people to whom the money is owed.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 06:41 PM (bb5+k)

314 He was speaking out against the un trying to disarm us.

Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 06:43 PM (OqOKd)

315 model_1066,

I know you're good people I'm saying the UN is pushing to push us our people into being disarmed.

The LOST treaty, the arms treaty, and how much more shit is aimed right at our nation's head....

I was not saying the UN is there to help us I am saying something BIG is going on.'

Barry is gonna try to sign and comply with UN treaties without their passing I am betting.

Dr. NLRB will work anyway is not really into US courts controlling him...why not just skip the US legislature too?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:49 PM (LRFds)

316 314 He was speaking out against the un trying to disarm us.
Posted by: teej at January 26, 2013 06:43 PM (OqOKd)

Yeah, I misread. My apologies.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:49 PM (7xPCu)

317 My email to the Aussie swill manufacturer:

A company that does not respect the US Constitution Bill of Rights should not do business in this country. My great x4 grandfather Col. William Prescott gave the order to the Americans to "not fire until you see the whites of their eyes" in their battle against the British at Bunker (Breed's) Hill during the American Revolution, in which we won our independence, setting an example for the rest of the world -- including your country -- in favor of LIBERTY against tyranny. If you "don't agree" with our gun laws, you don't agree with the 2nd Amendment and you don't agree that all men are entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. In other words, you agree with tyranny. I will not be buying any more of your wine and I will be sure to inform everyone I know that you "don't agree" with Liberty.

Posted by: angienc at January 26, 2013 06:50 PM (w3JGl)

318 313 Diogenes Lamp,

I know, you know I know the real number...it's gotten so bad the Ponzi scheme can't keep up...

that our acknowledged debt is not bigger than GDP is a sin...and no one gives a shit but "mutants" like us....

why "divorce"?

Why not this nation is just about finished anyway?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:50 PM (LRFds)

319 * an ampersand is between US Constitution and Bill of Rights in my email.

Posted by: angienc at January 26, 2013 06:51 PM (w3JGl)

320 But as far as I understand, the Constitution supersedes any bullshit from the two dolla ho what's called the UN.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:51 PM (7xPCu)

321
Brandy means you must have the means to be distillin'.


Yes, and you'll keep your mouth shut if you want any.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 06:51 PM (hpDVh)

322 321
Brandy means you must have the means to be distillin'.

Yes, and you'll keep your mouth shut if you want any.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 06:51 PM (hpDVh)

I like mine with orange juice, and some ice. S'il vous plait.

I keed!

Posted by: model_1066 at January 26, 2013 06:52 PM (7xPCu)

323 No worries, awkward Davies. I was just being cranky. Clearly, not enough wine.

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 06:56 PM (wsGWu)

324 why "divorce"?

Why not this nation is just about finished anyway?


Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 06:50 PM (LRFds)

The only possible way I see of obtaining a divorce is if our side is militarily more powerful than is theirs. I'm not sure if that is the case. Beyond that, why should they let anyone go? They want revenue from the productive, but beyond that, they want control.

I have been trying to scry the future, and the probability paths my mind keeps falling into are not pretty. I see an economic chain reaction (probably starting in Europe) wreaking economic havoc on us. The only thing keeping our money worth anything at all is the fact that so many people BELIEVE it is worth something. Destroy that belief, and dollars could collapse quickly.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 06:59 PM (bb5+k)

325 The only possible way I see of obtaining a divorce is if our side is
militarily more powerful than is theirs. I'm not sure if that is the
case.


That will change very quickly. I told my boss yesterday that the ruling about women in combat arms will do wonders for removing the best and brightest leaders in the military. Between the lower standards and the cries of discrimination and sexual harassment, expect to see an exodus of warriors and their replacement with political animals, not to mention the transformation of EO reps into de facto political commisars.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 07:03 PM (hpDVh)

326 324 Diogenes Lamp,

I understand what you are saying but I don't think their rank and file will go to war if we peacefully divorce they are the lazy assholes who undermined the war on terror as "too hard."

Yeah we're already on fumes....people do not understand how much of our economic power is structural deference to military might and stability.

There is no reason for the United States to be United if we have pitiful defense, the blue states want to destroy our past and the red want to be able to use resources to put people back to work and the blue do not.

It will not be easy, but I can honestly see no other way to keep any gasp of the American experiment alive other than divorce.

I just can't.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:04 PM (LRFds)

327 325 Colorado Alex,

Yup, they will use sensitivity training to weed out politically troublesome leaders...

which is the plan.

Anyway it will not be easy, BUT the Texas national Guard's armored division is probably better than half the Regular Army divisions.

I will spend the rest of my life trying to save as many as I can.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:05 PM (LRFds)

328 The government will respond by flooding us with more of them, basically washing away any savings in dollars. The real problems start when the poor in the Cities can't buy food. They riot and burn down sections of cities.

The government responds to the crises by imposing wage and price controls. Eventually it ends up with the government sending troops to either force farmers to grow food, or to seize the farms and nationalize them.


From the perspective of the Government, the comrades in the cities will be more important than the troublemakers in the countryside.

I'm borrowing a lot from the Collapse of the Roman Empire and the onset of Soviet Communism. As I think human beings seldom change in their motivation and outlook, I expect history to copy similar circumstances which have occurred before.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:08 PM (bb5+k)

329 "my family’s, and I would think all my employees’, positions"

And if any employee things otherwise and wants to remain employed he will keep his damn mouth shut.

Posted by: Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder at January 26, 2013 07:09 PM (lPNQ6)

330 328 Diogenes Lamp,

This ain't Russia comrade though I agree that is what these fucks will try.

Study Finland and Poland's ability to stave the fucks off.

Like I used to say about Ohio "I know these hills"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:10 PM (LRFds)

331 Like I used to say about Ohio "I know these hills"

You can pretty much forget about moving anything through the Rocky Mountains if the system breaks down. There are places where a platoon can hold off a brigade easily.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 07:13 PM (hpDVh)

332
It will not be easy, but I can honestly see no other way to keep any gasp of the American experiment alive other than divorce.

I just can't.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:04 PM (LRFds)

Look at another perspective regarding it. If the Conservative states (I will not use the Media Propaganda "Red") could successfully "Divorce" the liberal, they likely could successfully "take" the liberal states. What would be the argument for leaving them alone? Most of what is wrong with them are the stupid policies which they have democratically imposed on themselves.

Should we be willing to put up with crap from them when we could take them?Do not doubt that their pointy little rat-like minds will not contemplate this possibility should the talk of "Divorce" ever get bandied about seriously. They would rightfully regard a large block of Conservative states as a potential threat to them, because over time it would become exactly that!
The point is, why should they countenance the emergence of what will eventually become a dire threat to them and their ideas?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:15 PM (bb5+k)

333 331 Colorado Alex,

Hey CA I told people when they were worried the last time when the Army War College Putz declared war on Darlington, SC the key is to hire yourself out as a gun and hand to a farmer if the economy implodes....

learn your terrain stand 'em up just enough and force the issue....

this ain't Russia it is America and a lot of out of work GIs are liable to get paid in land grants of broken up Federal holdings if it goes bad....

they violate the bill of rights my moral compunction to deference is gone.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:16 PM (LRFds)

334 Anyway it will not be easy, BUT the Texas national
Guard's armored division is probably better than half the Regular Army
divisions.

I will spend the rest of my life trying to save as many as I can.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:05 PM (LRFds)

Armour will make target practice for drones. If you can't knock them down before they can present as a threat, it isn't going to work. Military tactics are changing.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:17 PM (bb5+k)

335 Yep, close the tunnel and send everyone over Loveland pass.

Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2013 07:18 PM (wsGWu)

336 332 Diogenes Lamp,

as Connery said in the Untouchables "how far are you willing to go?'

If they were given to long term strategic thinking they wouldn't be democrats.

I agree they would hate us, they already do. Yes we would be able to destroy them on a long enough timeline, but why would we? If anything they will need a berlin wall to keep Free Shit Army in not us out.

I will not burn a torch and scream for it, but I am sincere DL I am dedicating the rest of my life to helping every good American I can move to desnity and laying the groundwork for the red to think of themselves as Red forst American later...

the Blue already do this or at a minimum do not punish their leaders that do.

They will not tolerate us, they will not honor the contract so we must try to leave and failing that we must wreck this nation's power.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:20 PM (LRFds)

337 39 Valu-rite isn't wine, it's bathtub vodka.

Posted by: lowandslow

Wrong fixture.

Posted by: sandbagger at January 26, 2013 07:20 PM (5HC3v)

338 334 Diogenes Lamp,

I'm quite aware. You and I discussed my notion of submersible drone carriers IIRC. I said try for the ART V and reset.

If the Feds first response to a serious divorce try is violence.....

drones can't stop irregulars bud.

I can be pretty mean and pretty dirty.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:21 PM (LRFds)

339
Study Finland and Poland's ability to stave the fucks off.

Like I used to say about Ohio "I know these hills"


Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:10 PM (LRFds)

They didn't have infrared and amplified light cameras in Finland and Poland. We could easily find and kill Hayha with modern technology. I would not want to match up a rifleman in the hills against a flying terminator. If riflemen join into ranks, they are an even better target.
They are getting very good practice on dealing with insurgents. Do not doubt for a moment that the same tactics and hardware (or even better hardware) will be employed against people they regard as domestic enemies.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:22 PM (bb5+k)

340 Armour will make target practice for drones. If you can't knock them
down before they can present as a threat, it isn't going to work.
Military tactics are changing.


Bullshit. Drones in a conventional fight will face air defenses, the same as any manned plane. Furthermore, drones big enough to carry that kind of ordinance are going to require extensive support facilities, which will be targeted by irregulars.

Drones are nice, but at the moment they are way overrated in a conventional fight.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 07:25 PM (hpDVh)

341 339 DL,

Yeah ask a grunt who is just back from Durka how often they use Night Vision out in the boonies now.

It works both ways.

DL the idea that the US military is unstoppable is a fiction.

It is extremely lethal, quite formidable and unleashed could scour this continent.

The key is acceptable levels of force to the blue loyalists and the ability to protect that populace from retaliation.

They will let us go if enough want to leave or take their place beside Hitler and Stalin.

No easy path, but there never is.

I was willing to see total nuclear war if need be to stop Stalin's nieces and nephews.

You think I am softer now for Chicago jesus if he shows red?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:27 PM (LRFds)

342 I will not burn a torch and scream for it, but I am
sincere DL I am dedicating the rest of my life to helping every good
American I can move to desnity and laying the groundwork for the red to
think of themselves as Red forst American later...

the Blue already do this or at a minimum do not punish their leaders that do.

They
will not tolerate us, they will not honor the contract so we must try
to leave and failing that we must wreck this nation's power.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:20 PM (LRFds)

We will have to work at dealing with this in whatever way we can. Getting conservative minded people to move from the Liberal states is a good idea. This is all going to come down to who has the best resources with the bigger and better population. If we could just hold off major problems for a decade or so, I think the forces which are contributing to the empowerment of these bastards will wan to the point where they no longer present a problem.

The more damage that can be done to taxpayer funded unions, Liberal Academia, Liberal News and Entertainment Industries, Liberal legal industries, and so on, the better are our chances at slowly choking off this communist crap.

Technology is hurting Academia and the Liberal News and Entertainment Industries. We need more economic warfare against liberal supporting companies, such as that Australian company mentioned in this thread.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:30 PM (bb5+k)

343 drones can't stop irregulars bud.

I can be pretty mean and pretty dirty.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:21 PM (LRFds)

They are getting better. I suppose it would be a race to determine if they ever get good enough before their bases could be overrun. Of course, knowing these bastards, they would probably outsource it to China.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:34 PM (bb5+k)

344 Furthermore, drones big
enough to carry that kind of ordinance are going to require extensive
support facilities, which will be targeted by irregulars.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 26, 2013 07:25 PM (hpDVh)


And that is what would likely be required. Find the uplink and take it out. But they wouldn't have just drones, they'd have regulars too.


I'm in favor of doing a lot of talking. A Whole lot of talking. In the meantime, Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:38 PM (bb5+k)

345 343 Diogenes Lamp,

Who says we won't?

Texas can send oil to China bud, and promise we'll focus on hempispheric defense.

Cuts both ways.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:38 PM (LRFds)

346 Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:27 PM (LRFds)



I just hope we can figure something out that minimizes the ugly. In the meantime, we should all look mostly to the needs of our families and our community as much as we can. Prepping is a pretty good idea.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:41 PM (bb5+k)

347 Posted by: sven10077 at January 26, 2013 07:38 PM (LRFds)



Enjoyed talking to you, but the family and dinner are beckoning. Keep well, and i'll see you in the future.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 26, 2013 07:43 PM (bb5+k)

348 Wine... BLAAAARGH.

Sorry, had a bit of a problem in College and can;'t drink wine. Night Train is NOT friendly, and it was less friendly back when I was in college.

When it costs less than $1.50 a bottle (early 90's pricing) that should tell you something; and what it should tell you is not "hey, I can afford that for an easy drunk".

Worst hangover ever with blackouts & memory loss to boot. Grape juice is a bit iffy after that.

Posted by: gekkobear at January 26, 2013 07:54 PM (gAH5l)

349 You won't be missing anything. Yalumba's plonk is dingo's piss, anyway.

Posted by: otho at January 26, 2013 08:21 PM (yBF/9)

350
Mandatory.

Monty Python's Flying Circus - "Australian Table Wines"

"Chateau Chunder, which is an appellation controlee, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation; a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends."

http://tinyurl.com/a9yu3j3

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 26, 2013 08:29 PM (kdS6q)

351 Just emailed Yalumba! Hope the pricks are inundated with pissed off peeps. This is fun!

Posted by: 'Ette in training at January 26, 2013 08:30 PM (zvxqj)

352 DiogenesLamp @324- 'revenue from the productive'
This very thing is what the War Between The States was about. Tariffs was what they were called.


Posted by: EROWMER at January 26, 2013 10:36 PM (kxlCQ)

353 Everyone knows the NRA - Yalumba not so much. Likely it's Nigerian.

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2013 09:09 AM (CS787)

354 I asked Yalumba for the names of its distributors in the US. They haven't emaiIed it back yet, but it is either a day ahead or behind there. I think that is the explanation.

Posted by: Banjo at January 27, 2013 09:42 AM (BzdDN)

355
Cocky son of a bitch isn't he? "Runs counter to the views of all my employees"---my bleeding hemorrhoids!
This is the big boss saying better get in line chillun if you want to keep your job.

Too bad--I like Yalumba Viognier--not a bad wine--but as far as I'm concerned hereafter, some donkey pissed in the wine vat at Yalumba and I can't drink it anymore.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at January 27, 2013 11:28 AM (oe1aw)

356 My mail to Yalumba:

Thank you for alerting me to the existence of NRA's wine club. I will join presently and will gleefully never taste or purchase your wine and will encourage everyone I know to do the same. We do so appreciate when people from allied nations choose to dabble in our internal polictics, I trust you will also welcome our input into Australian politics?

Warm regards,
Guy

Posted by: guy at January 27, 2013 11:38 AM (3Fj+Y)

357 Fantastic. I would love to know who to steer my dollars away from. I wish my company did not use intuit. I will try to rectify that next quarter.

Posted by: gigg at January 27, 2013 06:07 PM (dDD3H)

358 I hope you do not mine guy, I sent the exact same letter.

Posted by: gigg at January 27, 2013 06:10 PM (dDD3H)

359 NRA wine club duly joined. I'm an NRA Life member and had no clue they had a wine club. Thanks, Yalumba! I won't be drinking your wine!

Posted by: sinalco at January 27, 2013 07:21 PM (zDJDu)

360 I like how the owner presumes to speak for all of his employees.

Posted by: Josef W. at January 28, 2013 12:04 PM (c1scD)

361 Let the Aussies know what you think of their shitty wine.. and antigun attitude...

http://www.yalumba.com/contact.asp?p=176

Posted by: M1911 at January 28, 2013 04:32 PM (j/KPN)






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