David Mamet on Guns (and Socialism and Tyranny)

Great piece. It's partly about guns, partly about everything.


Karl Marx summed up Communism as “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” This is a good, pithy saying, which, in practice, has succeeded in bringing, upon those under its sway, misery, poverty, rape, torture, slavery, and death.

‘In announcing his gun control proposals, President Obama said that he was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other constitutional rights to flourish.’

For the saying implies but does not name the effective agency of its supposed utopia. The agency is called “The State,” and the motto, fleshed out, for the benefit of the easily confused must read “The State will take from each according to his ability: the State will give to each according to his needs.” “Needs and abilities” are, of course, subjective. So the operative statement may be reduced to “the State shall take, the State shall give.”

All of us have had dealings with the State, and have found, to our chagrin, or, indeed, terror, that we were not dealing with well-meaning public servants or even with ideologues but with overworked, harried bureaucrats. These, as all bureaucrats, obtain and hold their jobs by complying with directions and suppressing the desire to employ initiative, compassion, or indeed, common sense. They are paid to follow orders.

Rule by bureaucrats and functionaries is an example of the first part of the Marxist equation: that the Government shall determine the individual’s abilities.

As rules by the Government are one-size-fits-all, any governmental determination of an individual’s abilities must be based on a bureaucratic assessment of the lowest possible denominator. The government, for example, has determined that black people (somehow) have fewer abilities than white people, and, so, must be given certain preferences. Anyone acquainted with both black and white people knows this assessment is not only absurd but monstrous. And yet it is the law.

President Obama, in his reelection campaign, referred frequently to the “needs” of himself and his opponent, alleging that each has more money than he “needs.”

But where in the Constitution is it written that the Government is in charge of determining “needs”? And note that the president did not say “I have more money than I need,” but “You and I have more than we need.” Who elected him to speak for another citizen?

It is not the constitutional prerogative of the Government to determine needs.

He gets into guns on the back nine.

Posted by: Ace at 01:33 PM



Comments

1 First ?

Posted by: RUReadingthis at January 25, 2013 01:34 PM (V92KK)

2 "Your needs don't trump my needs, punk!"

Posted by: RUReadingthis at January 25, 2013 01:35 PM (V92KK)

3 Before even reading this, it's great to have Mamet on our side. Even the dimwits on the left know better than to go toe to toe with him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 01:35 PM (R4Bz0)

4 Ack!@ The Daily Beast...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 25, 2013 01:36 PM (xz0nG)

5 When you're Lord of the Shitbirds, eventually the charm wears off, - usually just after the inauguration.

Posted by: Fritz at January 25, 2013 01:39 PM (/ZZCn)

6

I will determine what your 'needs' are. And you will shut up and like it.

Posted by: King Clusterfuck at January 25, 2013 01:40 PM (fH4X9)

7 As conservatives we may never 'get' Alec Baldwin, but at least we got the guy who wrote Glenngarry Glenn Ross. And Oleanna. And Speed-the-Plow and Wag the Dog and holy shit Mamet's written a ton of great work.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 01:42 PM (OQZWo)

8 Vote for me and you will get steak knives.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 25, 2013 01:42 PM (Cm5S0)

9 Sign this guy up.
Sounds like he might be tailor made for the job of debasing The Chicago Way.



Posted by: ontherocks at January 25, 2013 01:42 PM (aZ6ew)

10 Brit tells us of the slime that Piers Morgan crawled from;

Where Did Piers Morgan Come From, Anyway?

http://tinyurl.com/bclg2cy

Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2013 01:43 PM (wwsoB)

11 Oh man, I forgot The Spanish Prisoner. That's a great film. Steve Martin's greatest non-comedic role ever.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 01:43 PM (OQZWo)

12 There is so much leftist stupidity in the comments on the article link that it burns the eyes.

Posted by: Zharkov at January 25, 2013 01:43 PM (wqmQt)

13 He's wrong on automatic weapons but that is a battle for another day, I suppose.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 25, 2013 01:43 PM (xz0nG)

14 "It is not the constitutional prerogative of the Government to determine needs."

Welcome to the Gulag Welcome Center, Sir. May I have all of your belongings, please? Your gruel cup is next to the toilet.

Posted by: Old Man as Greeter at January 25, 2013 01:44 PM (ndlFj)

15 Every animal is equal, but some are more equal than others.

Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 25, 2013 01:44 PM (F6KtL)

16 Karl Marx summed up Communism as “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”

Or, as the Sacred Living Bible teaches us, "Obama giveth and Obama taketh away."

Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 01:45 PM (FcR7P)

17 BTW, for those who are interested, I spent a lot of time in the earlier thread about today's DC Circuit Court ruling striking down Obama's recess appointments explaining why (unfortunately) the opinion is deeply problematic and near-certain to be overturned, at least in part, by SCOTUS.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 01:45 PM (OQZWo)

18 7-
I can honestly say fuck Alec Baldwin. We have Adam Baldwin. He is hotter than that doughy old fuck Alec, and an outspoken conservative.

And firefly and serenity ??? I mean I would have been happy with that. Him being a conservative is just icing on the cake.

Posted by: gigg at January 25, 2013 01:45 PM (41VCE)

19 David Mamet is a poopyhead

Vote Ashely 2016!

Posted by: Ashley Judd, Potential Senate Candidate at January 25, 2013 01:45 PM (gCa4h)

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 01:45 PM (8y9MW)

21 wining elections is for closers; everything ( pretty much ) is for closer

Posted by: John Smith at January 25, 2013 01:46 PM (Dll6b)

22 Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 01:45 PM (OQZWo)

Cause we can't have a small almost victory for more than a few hours?

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at January 25, 2013 01:47 PM (bj+Nc)

23 Sweet retardothon going on in the comments...feel free to wade in a crack skulls. Easy pickens. Taxing the hell out of ammo seems to be a good idea to them.

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 25, 2013 01:47 PM (FIDMq)

24 I hope he keeps up this push on guns.

This will be Obama's SS reform that Bush tried in his second term that fucking broke his presidency.

Please please please go for their guns!!!

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 25, 2013 01:48 PM (JMYH3)

25 I forget where Mamet suddenly awoke. I think he was watching a play, reviewing a play, somethingorother, and then he went home thinking about what he saw and had the "epiphany" between the Left and Right.

Posted by: EC at January 25, 2013 01:50 PM (GQ8sn)

26 and holy shit Mamet's written a ton of great work.


Posted by: Jeff B. at January 25, 2013 01:42 PM (OQZWo)


Go you huskies!


Spartan may be one of the most cynical and brilliant takes on how politicians really work that I've seen.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 25, 2013 01:50 PM (Gk3SS)

27 The old Soviet joke about the Politiburo was, "Well, they have no abilities, but oy! What needs!"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 25, 2013 01:51 PM (xjpRj)

28 vote for us!

Posted by: Ashley's Juggs at January 25, 2013 01:52 PM (27KAF)

29 I like to take care of my children

Posted by: Lord Obama the Great Fuck Up at January 25, 2013 01:53 PM (F6KtL)

30 It is not the constitutional prerogative of the Government to determine needs.

Nor to demogogue and attempt to sway peoples "wants".

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 01:54 PM (l86i3)

31
24...Please please please go for their guns!!!

Even BJ Clinton said "ix-nay on the gun control push", and tried to warn them.

He signed Feinstein's gun ban Bill back in 1993...and the Dems lost both Houses of Congress in 1994.

Even if it doesn't get passed this time, I think the damage is done.
It will be an issue in next year's midterms either way.

Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2013 01:54 PM (fH4X9)

32 Vote for me and you will get steak knives.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 25, 2013 01:42 PM (Cm5S0)


Wait... are those assault steak knives?

Posted by: Diane Feinstein at January 25, 2013 01:54 PM (XvHmy)

33 Nice piece, even if we don't win back anything I think this overreach on the left's part is an assbiter.

It is reminding everyone how much power the donks want to use and how little they regard the rulebook.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 01:54 PM (LRFds)

34 Heartening.
But the comments from Daily Beast readers are enough to make you want to slit your wrists.

Posted by: NYC Parent at January 25, 2013 01:55 PM (8GA+4)

35 My sister is the puffy one now!

Posted by: Puffy Faced Judd at January 25, 2013 01:55 PM (Cm5S0)

36 All I need to know I learned as a wee lad: Commies are for killing.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 25, 2013 01:56 PM (evdj2)

37 The left have no problem with Obama determining what their needs are.

But, if we ever get a Republican president again, how the left will howl when he determines what their needs are.

Posted by: Marmo at January 25, 2013 01:56 PM (QW+AD)

38 34 NYCParent,

No, their wrists dear friend....

their wrists.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 01:56 PM (LRFds)

39 He's wrong on automatic weapons but that is a battle for another day, I suppose.

What I got from the whole article was that he was specifically abstaining- because no one has the right to determine what another needs- from saying that no one needs automatic weapons.

That is, he, specifically, agrees that no one "needs" them in the same way that he agrees that no one "needs" $1bn.

I also disagree with him, but I'm fine with him being wrong so long as he acknowledges he has no right or position which allows him to oppose that opinion on me.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 01:57 PM (8y9MW)

40 37 Marmo,

That's why I think we need divorce, and I think the way to get it is by using the Mexican immigrants.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 01:57 PM (LRFds)

41 "These, as all bureaucrats, obtain and hold their jobs by complying with
directions and suppressing the desire to employ initiative, compassion,
or indeed, common sense."

Describes my frustrating career with the State to a tee. We used to say, "If the commies ever take over, we will know how to act."

That job really turned me into a conservative.

Posted by: pj at January 25, 2013 01:58 PM (ZWaLo)

42 36 Toby928th,

I was taught at age 4.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 01:58 PM (LRFds)

43 If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

Posted by: Stuff George Orwell Said for $100 at January 25, 2013 01:58 PM (feFL6)

44 tailor made for the job of debasing The Chicago Way

He wrote The Untouchables FFS. He coined the phrase "The Chicago Way."

"In Roman times, when a when a fellow was convicted of trying to bribe a
public official, they would cut off his nose, and sew him in a bag with a
wild animal, and throw him in a river." Tell your master I will see him in Hell.

Posted by: comatus at January 25, 2013 01:59 PM (qaVK+)

45 I spent a lot of time in the earlier thread about today's DC Circuit Court ruling striking down Obama's recess appointments explaining why (unfortunately) the opinion is deeply problematic and near-certain to be overturned, at least in part, by SCOTUS.

I'm sorry to say that it's a crap shoot trying to guess which way #5 will jump.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 25, 2013 01:59 PM (evdj2)

46 Mamets right on except for bureaucrats being "overworked.". Maybe he is being kind in order to be persuasive. My first job out of college was for the state and after my first week of work and showing up everyday 5 minutes early, I was told by my coworker that I was making everyone else look bad. Everyone else came in 20 minutes late. I had about 10 hrs of work that I was given 40 hrs a week to complete.

Posted by: L, elle at January 25, 2013 02:00 PM (0PiQ4)

47 I give gwategum control.

Posted by: Bwarmy Fwank at January 25, 2013 02:00 PM (xiaOm)

48 I'm sorry to say that it's a crap shoot trying to guess which way #5 will jump.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 25, 2013 01:59 PM (evdj2)

Yep, like laying a bet at a rattlesnake race.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 02:00 PM (l86i3)

49 Sorry, won't read anything on the dailey yeast.

I shun those people; any contact would threaten what little sanity I bitterly cling to.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 25, 2013 02:00 PM (CfTYs)

50 Damn!
Someone beat me to the "steak knives" shtick..

Posted by: TexasJew at January 25, 2013 02:00 PM (lD8ju)

51 I rewatched The Untouchables last night and noticed it was written by Mamet.

It was kinda fun seeing Kostner get smacked around by reality in the flick.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2013 02:01 PM (ccXZP)

52 I shun those people; any contact would threaten what little sanity I bitterly cling to.

Just don't read the comments. The article is good.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:02 PM (8y9MW)

53 Every time I go to Drudge and see the fly on the piece of doo-doo picture, it cracks me up.

Posted by: Roy at January 25, 2013 02:02 PM (VndSC)

54 The comments in that article, holy Earth-mother of Retards these people are Ivy-League clueless!

I much prefer the sanity of the Assault-of-Spades military-style blog.

Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 02:02 PM (FcR7P)

55 Fantastic piece.

Posted by: Ben at January 25, 2013 02:03 PM (C2Y4l)

56 PUT... THE ... AMMO ... DOWN

Ammo is for elitists ONLY

Do you think I'm fucking with you? I'm not

Posted by: Barack from Downtown at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (wwsoB)

57 I think they are piling on because he was one of 'them' but he left them.

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (FIDMq)

58 I much prefer the sanity of the Assault-of-Spades military-style blog.

We always have our hand firmly on the foregrip.

Posted by: occam's styptic pencil at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (evdj2)

59 I can honestly say fuck Alec Baldwin. We have Adam Baldwin. He is hotter
than that doughy old fuck Alec, and an outspoken conservative.


Not with Mooch's dick, I'd say.

("You are worthress Arec Barrwin!")

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs an intervention at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (ZKzrr)

60 Coffee for Mr. Mamet!

Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (xiaOm)

61 O/T

Saw on huffpo/Aol the headline that "Federal Court Deals Blow To Obama"

I haven't read his autobiography but wasn't the guy who dealt blow to Obama his college roommate?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (QxSug)

62 Fantastic piece.
Posted by: Ben


You are supposed to link to a picture.

Posted by: Roy at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (VndSC)

63 I think they are piling on because he was one of 'them' but he left them.

Stoning apostates! It's not just for Muslims anymore!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs an intervention at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (ZKzrr)

64 Mamet has GoatBalls™.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (Iyg03)

65 49 >> I shun those people; any contact would threaten what little sanity I bitterly cling to.

SR is another bitter clinger.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2013 02:05 PM (ccXZP)

66 61 O/T

Saw on huffpo/Aol the headline that "Federal Court Deals Blow To Obama"

I haven't read his autobiography but wasn't the guy who dealt blow to Obama his college roommate?

---

I will rule on your case but FIRST YOU WILL BLOW ME!

Posted by: Federal Judge Mel Gibson at January 25, 2013 02:06 PM (e0xKF)

67 56 PUT... THE ... AMMO ... DOWNAmmo is for elitists ONLYDo you think I'm fucking with you? I'm not
Posted by: Barack from Downtown at January 25, 2013 02:04 PM (wwsoB)

If I put lil' Ammo down, I could type with two hands.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 25, 2013 02:06 PM (YYyqq)

68 Jeeezus those commenters on the beast are from the fuckin' moon .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 02:07 PM (USjX1)

69 Drudge really needs to stick with the flyboy pics for a while and just change the headline underneath. I don't know how he can outdo that

Posted by: L, elle at January 25, 2013 02:07 PM (0PiQ4)

70 The comments, as others have pointed out, are a stunning array of garden variety leftwing dumbassery. All they've got is anger and an instinct for throwing race cards.

Is everyone who reads that site a total fucknut?

Posted by: Kensington at January 25, 2013 02:07 PM (H84UO)

71 I have needs.

They involve bungie cords, amyl nitrate and a metric shit-ton of Cool Whip.

Really, we're talking need here, people. Neeeed.

Don't judge.

Posted by: Phinn at January 25, 2013 02:08 PM (m7mrm)

72 ("You are worthress Arec Barrwin!")

heheh I see the little donk when I read that, thanks

Posted by: gigg at January 25, 2013 02:08 PM (41VCE)

73 so, iz Obama really a demon or vampire or some undead Manchurian candidate creature? Who has flies crawl all over them?

Oh yeah, a terminator. That's it. Them too.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 25, 2013 02:08 PM (QxSug)

74 David who?

Posted by: Sam Shepard at January 25, 2013 02:09 PM (Cm5S0)

75 obama is the chupacabra!

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at January 25, 2013 02:09 PM (uhftQ)

76 Oh, and JJ Abrams was involved in The Untouchables as well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2013 02:09 PM (ccXZP)

77 "On a lower level of abstraction, there are more than 2 million instances a year of the armed citizen deterring or stopping armed criminals; a number four times that of all crimes involving firearms. "

*****

Does anybody know a link for this citation from the Mamet article?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2013 02:10 PM (1OZSU)

78 Drudge really needs to stick with the flyboy pics for a while and just change the headline underneath.

He must have to allow their landings so he doesn't lose his place on the teleprompter. It's an unnatural tolerance. Even cows react when flies land on their faces.

Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 02:10 PM (FcR7P)

79 Speaking of Alec Baldwin, I'm reading this oral history of Saturday Night Live that was published in 2001, and Baldwin is quoted extensively, raging on and on about how he wishes SNL would go harder against "those two oil whores, Bush and Cheney!"

If Bush and Cheney are just oil whores, isn't Alec Baldwin just a Hollywood whore?

Posted by: Kensington at January 25, 2013 02:10 PM (H84UO)

80 The Federalist #46 addresses this directly. I don't know any better argument for the gun grab that is going on now.

Posted by: polynikes at January 25, 2013 02:11 PM (m2CN7)

81 ‘In announcing his gun control proposals, President Obama said that he
was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other
constitutional rights to flourish.’








What? Lovely twisted logic from Comrade Chairman Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 25, 2013 02:11 PM (1Jaio)

82 Alexandria, VA. CCW permit application submitted.

Add my name to the list, Mr. President.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 25, 2013 02:11 PM (DZqR0)

83 meanwhile, that other "progressive" Nadal Hassan, is seeking to disarm the judge in his Court Martial by demanding the death penalty be taken off the table. If anyone deserves the death penalty, its him. Watch them grant his request. Just watch.

Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 02:11 PM (Dnbau)

84 Help me! Help me!

Posted by: The Fly at January 25, 2013 02:12 PM (feFL6)

85 FYI, Mamet wrote and directed the upcoming HBO movie on Phil Spector. So, you can, hopefully, order it on Pay Per View rather than actually paying for HBO.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 25, 2013 02:12 PM (T0NGe)

86 I think Mamets convservative awakening came from talking with an old school rabbi .
Are orthodox jews typically pro second amendment ?

Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 02:12 PM (USjX1)

87 Oh, and JJ Abrams was involved in The Untouchables as well.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2013 02:09 PM (ccXZP)

Brian Dennehy played the baseball bat and the train station.

Posted by: eman at January 25, 2013 02:12 PM (jp2Ur)

88 Great essay, however as with most, the comments are frightening. Well spoken argument met with nothing but dismissals and name calling. My favorite was the folks who argued that electing Obama did give him the right to speak for another citizen. The left has indeed be successful in brainwashing entire generations of sheep.

Posted by: Heralder at January 25, 2013 02:12 PM (+xmn4)

89 "those two oil whores, Bush and Cheney!"

With prices "necessarily skyrocketing", what's that make Obama, the oil bitch?

Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 02:13 PM (FcR7P)

90 obama is the chupacabra!
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale


To be precise, he is the Hawaiian sub-specie; the Choomacabra.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 25, 2013 02:13 PM (xz0nG)

91 Where Did Piers Morgan Come From, Anyway? http://tinyurl.com/bclg2cy
Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2013 01:43 PM

That was a good read. I liked his overall point of Morgan whore's himself out to the highest bidder and we should not take his bait and give him undue publicity. Morgan loves publicity no matter how seedy.

Posted by: Cheri at January 25, 2013 02:13 PM (G+Wff)

92

TFG smells like death.

*rubs forefeet*

Posted by: The Fly at January 25, 2013 02:13 PM (1Y+hH)

93 I'd like to see one of the cob-loggers do a post quoting a typical anti-gun screed from a suitable source, substituting the word 'president' for every instance of the word 'child' (or 'children') and maybe 'White House' for every occurrence of the word 'school', just to see what it would read like. I'd do it but I'm just plain lazy.





Any takers? Bueller?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2013 02:14 PM (1OZSU)

94 Obama said that he was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other
constitutional rights to flourish.


In other words, the freedom of his captive press to support him shall be expanded.

Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 02:15 PM (FcR7P)

95 I think Mamets convservative awakening came from talking with an old school rabbi .



Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 02:12 PM (USjX1)


I'm not sure if something else didn't plant the seed first but the rabbi was definitely instrumental in nurturing it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 02:15 PM (R4Bz0)

96 ‘In announcing his gun control proposals, President Obama said that he
was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other
constitutional rights to flourish.’


Wow. Since I don't listen to him I never knew he said this. I don't even know what to say to that, its just so......evil. He does not determine the flourishing of rights. And certainly taking away or restricting one right makes all the others less likely to flourish.

In my mind that has got to be one of the worst statements I have ever heard he made. He may has well said, I am not killing you, I am allowing my murders to flourish.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 25, 2013 02:16 PM (p/cQy)

97

Some rights are more equal than others.

Posted by: Fly Guy at January 25, 2013 02:17 PM (1Y+hH)

98 Perhaps Mamets love of scotch was a factor as well Capt.

Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 02:17 PM (USjX1)

99 meanwhile, that other "progressive" Nadal Hassan, is
seeking to disarm the judge in his Court Martial by demanding the death
penalty be taken off the table. If anyone deserves the death penalty,
its him. Watch them grant his request. Just watch.

Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 02:11 PM (Dnbau)


Because sharia law is known for its enlightened and humanitarian verdicts

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 02:17 PM (R4Bz0)

100
Obama said that he was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other
constitutional rights to flourish.



In other words, the freedom of his captive press to support him shall be expanded.

Posted by: t-bird at January 25, 2013 02:15 PM (FcR7P)



I saw it as, we have to kill you but don't worry others will live a better life as a result. Not quite sure how, but don't worry about the details

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (1Jaio)

101 ‘In announcing his gun control proposals, President Obama said that he was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other constitutional rights to flourish.’

----------------------------------------------------


These next four years ain't gonna be pretty, people.

Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (/ZV9/)

102 If Bush and Cheney are just oil whores, isn't Alec Baldwin just a Hollywood whore?
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OK look, whenever you type that All I see is Adam Baldwin, I'm sorry. Please stop I don't want to start tripping the light faptastic at work.

Posted by: gigg at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (41VCE)

103 who cares about Marxism, really? why is this always something that's brought up, do people think criticizing liberalism doesn't have enough sting or something?

Posted by: JDP at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (60GaT)

104 he loves Israel andawakenedto the left's howling anti-semitism

Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (Dnbau)

105 Obama said that he was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other

constitutional rights to flourish.


I wasn't lying! I'm a writer! I give the truth scope!

Posted by: Geoffery Chaucer at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (8y9MW)

106 “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” is the fundamental principle of slave ownership.

Posted by: Original Roy at January 25, 2013 02:19 PM (wTawr)

107 Put those fly pictures on a single page with the title - "Ever notice flies are attracted to shit?'

Printed it.

Left it on coworkers desk.


Posted by: RWC at January 25, 2013 02:20 PM (fWAjv)

108 Does anybody know a link for this citation from the Mamet article?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon


Kleck and Gertz via John Lott Jr.

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2003/04/10/duncan3/

"After mentioning the estimated 80,000 to 82,000 DGUs reported by the National Crime Victimization Survey, they note that “other surveys imply that private firearms may be used in self-defense up to two and a half million times each year” and mention as their source, Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, “Armed Resistance to Crime: the Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun,” Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, v. 86, no. 1, pp. 150-187. In footnote 4, they state, “Kleck and Gertz’s survey (1995, pp. 182-3) of 10 other nationwide polls implies a range of 764,036 to 3,609,682 defensive uses of guns per year.” "

Another set of stats that have the number lower:

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 25, 2013 02:20 PM (xz0nG)

109 96 Guy Mohawk,

It's worse than that, do read the transcript what Obamacles I-The SCOAMF was saying was that the "Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" penumbra outweighs the hard tacit to the adoption of the Document Bill of Rights.

IoW he will restrict the first amendment without reservation because people have a right to happiness, he will do away with the 4th amendment because people should be happy and they will be happier KNOWING what is in your closet.

He got up, counted on the traditional post election goodwill and apathy as cover and said "fuck you I can trash the bill of rights because DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE!"

Yeah and not trusting Mr "Constitutional Scholar" is just paranoia...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 02:20 PM (LRFds)

110 once he saw their antisemitism, all the rest became clear

Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 02:20 PM (Dnbau)

111 ABC Gentlemen.

Always
Be
Clusterf***ing

Posted by: Barack "Glengarry" Obama at January 25, 2013 02:20 PM (xAtAj)

112 ‘In announcing his gun control proposals, President Obama said that he

was not restricting Second Amendment rights, but allowing other

constitutional rights to flourish.’




What a fucking imbecile. Tribe and the rest of the shithooks who taught him should be roundly ridiculed for producing this ignorant garbage.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 02:20 PM (R4Bz0)

113 Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke is awesome. Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdhcbkm_xvs

Posted by: the botnet at January 25, 2013 02:20 PM (f1cjt)

114 Seamus: That figure was first verified by Gary Kleck, in his Point Blank book and study ( for which he won the top award from the American Criminological Society in 1993 ).

Posted by: Kristophr at January 25, 2013 02:21 PM (wYVte)

115 who cares about Marxism, really? why is this always something that's
brought up, do people think criticizing liberalism doesn't have enough
sting or something?


Scratch a liberal, and 9 times out of 10 you'll find a Marxist hidden underneath.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 25, 2013 02:21 PM (SY2Kh)

116 103who cares about Marxism, really? why is this always something that's brought up, do people think criticizing liberalism doesn't have enough sting or something?
Posted by: JDP at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (60GaT)


Because modern "liberalism" is dirty with Marxist principles, principles that have torn down nations and enslaved millions. Pointing to that has historical precedence, and doesn't just make you sound like an angry old man.

Posted by: Heralder at January 25, 2013 02:21 PM (+xmn4)

117 104 he loves Israel andawakenedto the left's howling anti-semitism

Posted by: thunderb at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM (Dnbau)

Sign in Egypt -

http://tinyurl.com/al6v2bq

Posted by: RWC at January 25, 2013 02:21 PM (fWAjv)

118 Before even reading this, it's great to have Mamet on our side. Even the dimwits on the left know better than to go toe to toe with him.

You must not have read the comments. Half of them are "ZOMG! The scary black man is coming to take away your guns, teabaggers! Ha ha ha!"

Posted by: Barry at January 25, 2013 02:22 PM (zF6Iw)

119 Morgan loves publicity no matter how seedy.

Exactly. By injecting himself into the gun control "discussion" he's managed to elevate himself from his previous position, a silly cut-rate celebrity judge who failed and was replaced by Howard Stern in a cheap ripoff of American Idol. Now people actually seem to pay attention to what that dumbass has to say.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at January 25, 2013 02:22 PM (QKKT0)

120
I still like the pithier version of why I "need" an AR15.

Because fuck you, that's why, you fucking fascist.

Of course, that's not likely to win any friends. But they aren't exactly looking for friends in the gun culture either, so fuck them all sideways with a tabasco-soaked pineapple.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2013 02:23 PM (TIIx5)

121 Scratch a liberal, and 9 times out of 10 you'll find a Marxist hidden underneath.

Also, Marxism is still hated by a majority of the country, even though most people don't understand what it is. Since the Proggy policies (which they call "Liberal") are so close to Marxism that any differences are merely cosmetic (and rare), calling Liberalism "Marxism" is a good way to get people to view it in a negative light.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:23 PM (8y9MW)

122 IllTemperedCur: heh.

I need my AR-15 to kill fascists with.

You aren't a fascist, are you?

Posted by: Kristophr at January 25, 2013 02:24 PM (wYVte)

123 Always
Be
Clusterf***ing


You sound like my project manager...who is one of your buttlickers.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs an intervention at January 25, 2013 02:25 PM (ZKzrr)

124 120

I still like the pithier version of why I "need" an AR15.

Because fuck you, that's why, you fucking fascist.

Of
course, that's not likely to win any friends. But they aren't exactly
looking for friends in the gun culture either, so fuck them all sideways
with a tabasco-soaked pineapple.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2013 02:23 PM (TIIx5)

I like the need of an ar15 likened to the need of Rosa Parks to sit in the front of the bus

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 25, 2013 02:25 PM (FIDMq)

125 I submit that it is the second amendment alone that makes us as Americans so different from the rest of the world .
We can be lead , but when push comes to shove we retain the ability to shove back .
Consent of the governed and all that .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 02:25 PM (USjX1)

126 RWC that's hilarious! too funny!

Posted by: L, elle at January 25, 2013 02:25 PM (0PiQ4)

127 Also, Marxism is still hated by a majority of the
country, even though most people don't understand what it is. Since the
Proggy policies (which they call "Liberal") are so close to Marxism that
any differences are merely cosmetic (and rare), calling Liberalism
"Marxism" is a good way to get people to view it in a negative light.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:23 PM (8y9MW)



I hope that's true but considering the leftist agenda in the schools, how long will people think that Marxism is bad?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 25, 2013 02:26 PM (1Jaio)

128 If Bush and Cheney are just oil whores, isn't Alec Baldwin just a Hollywood whore?

Posted by: Kensington at January 25, 2013 02:10 PM (H84UO)


He's a proud F.A.G.

Posted by: Film Actors Guild at January 25, 2013 02:26 PM (XvHmy)

129 O/T Hey, did anyone know there was major riots in Cairo goin on? Cockholster TFG won't trust us with eleven bullits but he'll trust those godless shit stains with F-16s.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 02:26 PM (l86i3)

130 Because modern "liberalism" is dirty with Marxist principles, principles that have torn down nations and enslaved millions. Pointing to that has historical precedence, and doesn't just make you sound like an angry old man.
Posted by: Heralder at January 25, 2013 02:21 PM (+xmn4)


--------------------------------------------------


Shit. I don't mind being called an angry old man. Because I am an angry old man. And I'm hoping there's angry YOUNG men to stand with.

Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 02:26 PM (/ZV9/)

131 Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 25, 2013 02:20 PM (xz0nG)

*******

Thanks WC-L

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2013 02:27 PM (1OZSU)

132 You must not have read the comments. Half of them
are "ZOMG! The scary black man is coming to take away your guns,
teabaggers! Ha ha ha!"

Posted by: Barry at January 25, 2013 02:22 PM (zF6Iw)


That's not going toe to toe with him; that's hiding behind the anonymity of an internet nic. None of the fuckheads like Alec Baldwin would dare cross him in public because at some point in his career he's stated admiration for his body of work. Plus he knows Mamet's smarter than he is even if he'd be loathe to admit it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2013 02:27 PM (R4Bz0)

133
"...do people think criticizing liberalism doesn't have enough sting or something?"
---- ---- ----- - --- ---- --- ---- ---- ---- ---- --- - - -


I'm old. I remember liberals. What we are seeing today isn''t liberalism. It's statism. There is a large difference.

Posted by: Fly Guy at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (1Y+hH)

134 “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” is the fundamental principle of slave ownership.

Posted by: Original Roy at January 25, 2013 02:19 PM

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If someone else is paying for your food, shelter and health care, a slave is exactly what you are.

Posted by: angienc at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (w3JGl)

135 Ecofascists want to eliminate teh kittehs in New Zealand. Slate ecofascists agree. How about we train teh kittehs to kill ecofascists in their sleep

Cats Are Evil
Why New Zealand is right to consider banning them in order to save its wildlife.


http://tinyurl.com/b88p9ew

Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (wwsoB)

136 I still believe that Obama will sow the seeds for a conservative revival much like Carter did. I wish it only took one term, but the result will be the same. The GOP also now appears to have some leaders along the lines of Reagan/Kemp/Gingrich who have the media appeal to bring about some real change in policy. All is not lost gentlemen. Much of what Obama has done can be undone. Obama will cause America to learn the lesson again. In 25 years, we will have to relearn it. A prosperous society always has room to experiment with leftyism. A non-prosperous one does not.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (gmeXX)

137
Fly Guy sock off

Posted by: Meremortal at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (1Y+hH)

138 Put those fly pictures on a single page with the title - "Ever notice flies are attracted to shit?'

I live next to a horse farm. I get one or two flies in the house every year. That's all. Like one in July and one in September. My flyswatter looks like it just stepped out of the new flyswatter showroom. There's nothin' 'I got' that's nearly as attractive as the steaming hot piles of what 'they got'.

Posted by: Regular Moron at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (feFL6)

139
121...Also, Marxism is still hated by a majority of the country, even though most people don't understand what it is. Since the Proggy policies (which they call "Liberal") are so close to Marxism that any differences are merely cosmetic (and rare), calling Liberalism "Marxism" is a good way to get people to view it in a negative light.

------------

Calling them "control freaks" is something that they can easily understand.

Which is what they are....fascist control freaks.

Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (fH4X9)

140 I hope that's true but considering the leftist agenda in the schools, how long will people think that Marxism is bad?

Well, it has a major flaw (as a term), in that it is so closely tied with the USSR, which even Liberals haven't yet found a way to spin as a success.

So for a few more years, at least.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (8y9MW)

141
http://tinyurl.com/al6v2bq
Posted by: RWC at January 25, 2013 02:21 PM (fWAjv)


Awesome

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (l86i3)

142 I still like the pithier version of why I "need" an AR15.

Because fuck you, that's why, you fucking fascist.



We regret to inform you that your application for membership has been placed on permanent hold.

Posted by: The Oxford Union Debating Society at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (QKKT0)

143 I submit that it is the second amendment alone that makes us as Americans so different from the rest of the world .

We can be lead , but when push comes to shove we retain the ability to shove back .

Consent of the governed and all that .

Times a million.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (DZqR0)

144 If Bambam wants to think that the complete adoration of a simpering media is the same thing as the majority of Americans ACTUALLY agreeing with him, well, then hubris will get him like it always does people who believe their own press releases. Karma is a bitch and then hubris piles on and finishes the crush. Yes, Bambi has a second term, but, there are tens of millions of folks who will say to themselves, "WTF, he gets bodyguards and protection for life complete with assault weapons and the MoFo don't want me to go deer hunting? Fack that!"

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 25, 2013 02:29 PM (kXoT0)

145 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:23 PM (8y9MW

I'm not sure that it's hated. The humor is a bit dated, and the slapstick looks odd today, but it was another time, so we shouldn't judge them too harshly.

Posted by: Emily Litella at January 25, 2013 02:29 PM (GsoHv)

146 who cares about Marxism, really? why is this always something that's
brought up, do people think criticizing liberalism doesn't have enough
sting or something?


Liberalism is based on marxism almost entirely.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 25, 2013 02:29 PM (uhAkr)

147 You know, Mamet's quality of writing reminds me that our writers really are outstanding when compared to their liberal counterparts. We run circles around the pseudo intellectuals columnists of the NYT. At least, we have that.

Posted by: L, elle at January 25, 2013 02:29 PM (0PiQ4)

148 slaves..?...who whut....CHAINS...CHAINS!!!!

Posted by: Lobotobiden at January 25, 2013 02:29 PM (FIDMq)

149 I need an AR-15 in case I'm faced with a mob of people upset by a video.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 25, 2013 02:30 PM (T0NGe)

150 >>>who cares about Marxism, really? why is this always something that's
brought up, do people think criticizing liberalism doesn't have enough
sting or something?

Fighting a political ideology, without the intellectual background to also attack the underlying philosophy is like trying to kill blackberry bushes by merely cutting back the limbs. It's not enough to win the political fight you must also win the underlying fight of ideas.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 25, 2013 02:30 PM (Puqto)

151
Shit. I don't mind being called an angry old man. Because I am an angry old man. And I'm hoping there's angry YOUNG men to stand with.
Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 02:26 PM (/ZV9/)

Sorry, I didn't write that in an effective manner, I didn't mean it to sound offensive if it did. I meant that it makes it easier to dismiss is all, but the thought was truncated.
I think there's plenty of angry young men, I'm below 40 so I'm not sure if I qualify, but they're there.

Posted by: Heralder at January 25, 2013 02:30 PM (+xmn4)

152 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2013 02:23 PM (TIIx5)

I need my AR15 (it's a Bushmaster in fact!) because you fucking fascists won't honor the Constitution and have made illegal what I really want.

And because my SCAR 17S is backordered for six months.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (GsoHv)

153 We should remember that we don't have 1st A or 2nd A rights. Those Amendments grant us nothing. Those amendments protect us from the government in taking away our God-given rights as humans.Our natural rights come from God, not from the Constitution.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (gmeXX)

154 He's allowing the other rights to flourish?

He has it backwards, as usual. The Second Amendment is the one that secures all the others.

Posted by: Phinn at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (o2sGG)

155 I'm not sure that it's hated. The humor is a bit dated, and the
slapstick looks odd today, but it was another time, so we shouldn't
judge them too harshly.


Honestly, I don't even remember any of them, off the top of my head, except Zeppo. And him only because of BtvS (which is highly Ironic, because he was used because he's the Marx Brother everyone forgets).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (8y9MW)

156 Trust me, they still love Marx.

They think he was smart.

No, really.

Of course, Karl Marx is an old, dead white guy.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 25, 2013 02:32 PM (T0NGe)

157
remember in WEIRD SCIENCE when Kelly Lebrock turned Wyatt's older brother CURT into a LUMP OF SHIT and for the rest of the movie Curt would FART and have FLIES buzzing around him?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 25, 2013 02:32 PM (+oin+)

158 Times a million.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 25, 2013 02:28 PM (DZqR0)


---------------------------------------------


To be more exact, it should be in the realm of, X 175,000,000.

Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 02:33 PM (/ZV9/)

159 Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 25, 2013 02:32 PM (+oin+)

I remember Kelly Lebrock. Thats about it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 02:33 PM (l86i3)

160 Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 25, 2013 02:32 PM (+oin+)

I remember Kelly Lebrock. Thats about it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 02:33 PM (l86i3)

161 Nood.....like me.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at January 25, 2013 02:34 PM (BrQrN)

162 Hey, my first doubles. I have no idea how I did that.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 25, 2013 02:34 PM (l86i3)

163 Trust me, they still love Marx.


True, the Proggies do, but the people they're trying to convince- my family, for instance- don't.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:34 PM (8y9MW)

164 I remember Kelly Lebrock. Thats about it.

And the immortal line, 'What would you little perverts like to do, first?'

Posted by: Regular Moron at January 25, 2013 02:35 PM (feFL6)

165 Ecofascists want to eliminate teh kittehs in New Zealand.

When the Kiwi start dying off from vermin-driven plagues, kittehs are gonna laugh their fuzzy asses off.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs an intervention at January 25, 2013 02:36 PM (ZKzrr)

166 Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (gmeXX)___ ____ _____ _____ ___ _ ____ __Thank you. Someone needs to remind the Consitutional Scholar known as Fly Guy that he doesn't rank rights as to their relation to each other. They existed before him and will exist after he is gone.He can only temporarily suppress the exercise of rights, like all tyrants.

Posted by: Meremortal at January 25, 2013 02:36 PM (1Y+hH)

167 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (8y9MW)

Oh Lord. You Texans have no sense of humor.

Emily Litella?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 25, 2013 02:36 PM (GsoHv)

168 We should remember that we don't have 1st A or 2nd A rights. Those Amendments grant us nothing. Those amendments protect us from the government in taking away our God-given rights as humans.Our natural rights come from God, not from the Constitution.
Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 02:31 PM (gmeXX)


---------------------------------------------------


Correcto-mondo. A good article in American Thinker today addresses this. The Constitution does not give us those rights, it protects those rights.

Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2013 02:36 PM (/ZV9/)

169 re: 'Mamets right on except for bureaucrats being "overworked."'

Based on the ones I've known, I think there's sort of a 90/10 thing going on. 10% do jobs that if the government hadn't displaced private actors, those jobs would get done anyway. And some of those people are besieged by more-shit-to-do-all-the-time, and some don't get paid vastly more than their free-market equivalents would. Meanwhile, the other 90% do very little, what little they do is hugely destructive, and they get paid yo.

Posted by: oblig. at January 25, 2013 02:37 PM (cePv8)

170 Whoever said that TFG was Beelzebub ("Lord of the Flies", a pun on Beelzebuul) is threadwinner of the week, IMHO.


Posted by: Al at January 25, 2013 02:41 PM (V70Uh)

171 who cares about Marxism, really? why is this always
something that's brought up, do people think criticizing liberalism
doesn't have enough sting or something?



Posted by: JDP at January 25, 2013 02:18 PM



*********************



Because the word "liberal" has a positive connotation in the classical
sense (liberty). While it is true the left has perverted its meaning, at
the same time the left has brainwashed generations via public education
to think that what they call "liberalism" has that same positive
connotation. The left is also doing a pretty thorough job thus far of
making people see "socialism" in a positive light as well. OTOH,
"Marxism" still carries a negative connotation and since that really is
the left's endgame, call it for what it is -- it might wake some of the
sheep up.



One of the biggest mistakes of those on the right, IMO, is their
constant reference to the left as "liberals" and their agenda as
"liberalism."

Posted by: angienc at January 25, 2013 02:43 PM (w3JGl)

172 Soona, just read the piece at the AT. That is exactly correct. I fall into the trap from time to time to. When some lefty says why should you be able to own a firearm, I will lazily say because it is my 2nd A right. And that is simply not true. The correct response is because it is my God-given right as a man, and the 2nd A ensures that such right cannot be infringed.

My understanding is that Hamilton was also against the BOR for the same reasons. It was unnecessary because Congress didn't have the powers to take away such rights under Article II.

Anyway, we conservatives should be clear when we speak.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2013 02:43 PM (gmeXX)

173 >>He wrote The Untouchables FFS. He coined the phrase "The Chicago Way."
Posted by: comatus at January 25, 2013 01:59 PM (qaVK+)



Yeah, I know.

I was commenting on the irony, something that you apparently should pick up at the hardware store FFS.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 25, 2013 02:46 PM (aZ6ew)

174 173 ontherocks,

is that by "fiscal sense" because I know about 536 people who need some....?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2013 02:47 PM (LRFds)

175 There is nothing perverted about wanting "to do" Kelly LeBrock.

Posted by: Al at January 25, 2013 02:50 PM (V70Uh)

176 125--- "I submit that it is the second amendment alone that makes us as Americans so different from the rest of the world .
We can be lead , but when push comes to shove we retain the ability to shove back .
Consent of the governed and all that ."
Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 02:25 PM (USjX1)

AMEN!
That is why this (legal!) immigrant is staying here.
With an armed populace, freedom is never hopeless.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 25, 2013 02:52 PM (C8mVl)

177 Welcome Margarita .
Are you trying to become a citizen ?

Posted by: awkward davies at January 25, 2013 02:59 PM (USjX1)

178 Yeah. I used to be in Moochelle. Tough racket.

Posted by: The Lord of the Flies at January 25, 2013 03:13 PM (qxcKC)

179
IllTemperedCur: heh.

I need my AR-15 to kill fascists with.

You aren't a fascist, are you?


Posted by: Kristophr at January 25, 2013 02:24 PM (wYVte)






Turns out my geetar machine didn't kill fascists too well.

Also, I was surprised to find that I was a fascist.

Damn, it's hot in here. Anyone got a bottle of water?

Posted by: Zombie Woody Guthrie at January 25, 2013 03:34 PM (TIIx5)

180 Ill never understand why Pubbies have a problem with this:

Karl Marx summed up Communism as “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” This is a good, pithy saying, which, in practice, has succeeded in bringing, upon those under its sway, misery, poverty, rape, torture, slavery, and death.



It's a Republicans wet dream. Don't work? Don't eat, which was a rule of law under Lenin. Those who work reap the benefit, those who do not, only get enough to live by.

Posted by: palooka at January 25, 2013 03:49 PM (Hywwr)

181 Oh I am sorry ontherocks, in a thread where we got to 80 or so with commenters still establishing who Mamet is and what he wrote, I somehow missed your delicate sense of irony. I look forward to you and svenWING plover tapdancing like Noel Coward and Somerset Maugham on the finer points of tete-a-tete. Irony, your ass.

I'm off to the hardware now. If they have any 20-minute videos of fully-clothed Japanese schoolgirl imitators mouthing pop tune lyrics, I'll bring it back for you. For the ironic content. The smart, smart military ironic content.

Posted by: comatus at January 25, 2013 04:17 PM (qaVK+)

182 “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” s a Republicans wet dream. Don't work? Don't eat, which was a rule of law under Lenin

Marx and (more pragmatically) Lenin and (most pragmatically) Stalin were arrogating to themselves the right to define ability and needs. "Democratic Centralism" - google this.

Leaving Republicans aside (they're Marxist too, in their Menshevik way; we are all Marxist now), the conservative answer to abilities and needs is that this is decided by family, friends, the market, and the local government; and by the centralised State as a last resort.

Posted by: boulder hobo at January 25, 2013 04:26 PM (p39hN)

183 oh for . . .

Posted by: boulder hobo at January 25, 2013 04:26 PM (p39hN)

184 The big beef I have with Mamet is that he thinks Phil Spector is innocent of murder and is coming out with a documentary about it.

Posted by: Victoria at January 25, 2013 04:27 PM (/J5KB)

185 Smart guy, but he misses the point of the Second Amendment. If the Founders worried that the government could tyrenize its citizenry, then it absolutely wanted us armed to the teeth. If the government cannot determine the needs of the individual, that extends to firepower.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 25, 2013 10:29 PM (7h5MH)

186 OUTSTANDING rebuttal to the contortions, craziness, illogic, and above all, the power-lust of the Left.

I just passed it on to a boatload of people, and I hope a bunch of you do the same. Mamet has some cachet as a former liberal playwright; Pulitzers, Tonys, H'wood movies, the whole nine yards -- some of your acquaintance will listen to Mamet when they would rather eat a bug than listen to Mark Levin.

BTW, if you haven't read his "coming out as a patriot" essay, find "Why I'm No Longer a Brain-Dead Liberal." THAT one made heads explode from Coast to Coast. ;-)

Posted by: beverly at January 26, 2013 04:22 AM (+N5lc)

187 "One of the biggest mistakes of those on the right, IMO, is their

constant reference to the left as "liberals" and their agenda as

"liberalism.""

Amen, sistah!!!

Nomenclature, nomenclature, nomenclature: they kill the Patriots with that stuff. Next GOPer who refers to increased TAXES as increased REVENUE needs to be taken to the woodshed to have his hide tanned!

Posted by: beverly at January 26, 2013 04:48 AM (+N5lc)






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Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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