Obama Ties Bush as Most Politically Polarizing President In Modern History

I think he'll wind up tying Bush in some other metrics, too.

Like final job approval.

Anyway, Gallup says this is just the times we live in:

The list of most polarized years makes it clear that Obama's highly polarized ratings may be as much a reflection of the era in which he is governing as on Obama himself. The last nine presidential years -- the final five for Bush and Obama's first four -- all rank in the top 10. Thus, it appears that highly polarized ratings are becoming the norm, as Americans aligned with both parties are apparently not looking much beyond the president's party affiliation to evaluate the job he is doing.

Uh, no, it's not that. Obama doesn't feel the need to be president for all the people -- just his micro-targeted macro-payoff base.

That may indeed be part of the times-- Presidents may follow Obama's lead and nevermore consider themselves presidents of the entire nation -- but it's not the same as that being due to the times.

It's due to Obama's decisions.

Posted by: Ace at 05:33 PM



Comments

1 Except Bush wasn't elected to be some sort of healer of the rift between left and right as Obama was.

Posted by: Xander Crews at January 24, 2013 05:34 PM (8bgDT)

2 Request for credit from future historians: Denied!

Posted by: derit at January 24, 2013 05:34 PM (I88Jc)

3 Hello horde.

Posted by: Infidel at January 24, 2013 05:35 PM (bzOLE)

4 I think Bush's final approval ratings will be his ceiling...

Posted by: Popcorn at January 24, 2013 05:35 PM (XHG6a)

5 Obama didn't even have to navigate a tumultuous event like 9/11.

Posted by: tasker at January 24, 2013 05:36 PM (r2PLg)

6 I'm more worried about 2016. Christie cant get nominated. Or Bush for that matter because they'll crawl up Hillary's snatch.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 24, 2013 05:36 PM (FKQng)

7 Since he was re-elected, we can no longer hope he'll be no worse than Carter anymore.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at January 24, 2013 05:36 PM (aT/Cc)

8 no, academia is the leftist training ground. Hisotry will be kind to the JEF. They will see to it.

Posted by: thunderb at January 24, 2013 05:36 PM (Dnbau)

9 Also Obama has an all adoring press and he still gets those results.

Posted by: tasker at January 24, 2013 05:37 PM (r2PLg)

10 gack. History will be kind too

Posted by: thunderb at January 24, 2013 05:37 PM (Dnbau)

11 Nah. TFG's fans are programed to think he is the greatest and will blame any misery on rich republicans.

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 24, 2013 05:38 PM (lGu1O)

12 Carter must be a happy camper. No doubt now.

Posted by: Infidel at January 24, 2013 05:38 PM (bzOLE)

13 Jobs, jobs, jobs !!! ... and I don't mean Steve

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 24, 2013 05:39 PM (BAkev)

14 no, academia is the leftist training ground. Hisotry will be kind to the JEF. They will see to it.

Provided that there's not a 2nd Civil War.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at January 24, 2013 05:39 PM (aT/Cc)

15 Sorry to spoil it for you ace, but Obama will never tie Bush in approval numbers.

Democrat voters have already proven they will give him high marks regardless of the economy, defecit, or continued wars. They will NEVER not approve of this asshole. Hell the entire anti war movement just helped reelect a president who bombed Africa without congressional approval, committed hundreds of thousands of troops to foreign land, and fucking claimed the power to KILL American CITIZENS without a trial.

Posted by: Spoily McSpoilerson at January 24, 2013 05:39 PM (yvHCN)

16 Gallup is dead to me.

Posted by: CAC at January 24, 2013 05:39 PM (GdFam)

17 Maybe this nation wouldn't be so polarized if it weren't for the 50% who are right-wing fuckheads. Ever think of that?

Posted by: Sir Golfsalot at January 24, 2013 05:40 PM (7xeJQ)

18 just a thought tied to the media thread, as you'll recall, near the end of 2012 election cycle romney was perceived as being ahead at certain points and also, romney picked up a lot of surprise endorsements from smaller, local media outlets.

It's not all doom. I mean, it's close, but vagaries of this and that, things would have been different. Of course, there's no accounting for the losses in red state senate races (other than blue district voter fraud, which doesn't exist, of course).

Anyway, Obama is a singularly unconvincing piece of shit.

Where's our 100,000 new math and science teachers that will lead us out of Great Depression 2.0? You remember, that's his plan from the debates.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:40 PM (QxSug)

19 15% of Democrats approved of Bush in that 2004-2005 poll and now 86% of Democrats approve of Obama, i.e. 14% disapprove of Obama. What the GOP needs to figure out is how many of the current Democrats who approved of Bush before and disapprove of Obama now are the same. Those people need to be voting more often and for the GOP.

While I wouldn't call Dems who should be voting GOP "low-information voters", I would think that one thing they are not up on is the current state of the Democratic platform with respect to certain things Dems who disapprove of Obama might value highly. Guns and immigration would probably be two of those things. Educational policies might be another. There are definitely a lot of "inertia Democrats" who are Democrats because their ancestors were or they are older and didn't realize how much the Democrats had changed.

Posted by: BS Inc. at January 24, 2013 05:41 PM (eP0u9)

20 The US has never been closer to tyranny than today, and the reign of Barack I has hardly begun!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 24, 2013 05:42 PM (Cnqmv)

21 I think he'll wind up tying Bush in some other metrics, too.

If we're going to have the mcsame preemptive resource wars, sovereignty violation, regime changing of terrorizing despots, gitmo, military tribunals, $4 gas, and polarization, it would be nice to have the vibrant economy and low unemployment along with it.

Posted by: Buddy PC at January 24, 2013 05:42 PM (jfUIE)

22 Candidates need to announce the January after the 2014 midterms

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 24, 2013 05:42 PM (FKQng)

23 Progressives aren't interested in being President of the United States. They're interested in destroying opposition to progressivism in the United States. They have plenty of die-hard supporters that will welcome the gulags and mass graves. They have plenty more that will lower their heads and continue with their lives as their friends and family members disappear. They have but one more hurdle in their path.

It just so happens that we are having a "national discussion" about this hurdle right now.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 24, 2013 05:42 PM (1FLBb)

24 I've found this to be a nice tactic for political discussion with a Lefty:

Are you really that misinformed about this topic?

_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 24, 2013 05:42 PM (RuUvx)

25 The Bush crap was artificial controversy ginned up by the MFM. Hell the first thing Bush did was cross the aisle and work with Ted The Swimmer who promptly stabbed him in the back.


Obama has basically told Republicans to eat shit and die.

Posted by: Vic at January 24, 2013 05:43 PM (53z96)

26 Maybe this nation wouldn't be so polarized if it weren't for the 50% who are right-wing fuckheads. Ever think of that?

No fuckhead, unless I missed the snark tag.

Posted by: Infidel at January 24, 2013 05:43 PM (bzOLE)

27 There is, of course, a critical difference. Bush never strove to be divisive, Obama absolutely aspires to it.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at January 24, 2013 05:43 PM (KKlWc)

28
Bush just ignored the left. Obama seems to like sticking his thumb in our eye.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 24, 2013 05:43 PM (3PHCO)

29 Maybe, and this is just a silly idea I put up to be ignored, if the GOP didn't act like George Bush shit the bed and got caught masterbating on national TV while ordering 9-11, then people outside of the conservative sphere would have better appreciation for George W.

In second debate (the turning point against Romney, I contend), Romney should've said to liberal plant that:

1. George W's unemployment rate was low
2. W inherited recession from Clinton which he guided us out of.
3. W gets a lot of hate from lefties who deny him any credit
4. W's policies and tax cuts did not cause "the mess we're in" but rather CRA and Clinton.

Fuck, how hard is it to not concede the narrative and accept the left's terms of service agreement?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:43 PM (QxSug)

30 19 15% of Democrats approved of Bush in that 2004-2005 poll and now 86% of Democrats approve of Obama, i.e. 14% disapprove of Obama. What the GOP needs to figure out is how many of the current Democrats who approved of Bush before and disapprove of Obama now are the same. Those people need to be voting more often and for the GOP.
Posted by: BS Inc. at January 24, 2013 05:41 PM (eP0u9)

The FSA of West Virginia.

Posted by: Buddy PC at January 24, 2013 05:44 PM (jfUIE)

31 I wonder if this is Boosh's fault also ?


Posted by: American Dawg at January 24, 2013 05:44 PM (trA4n)

32 Democrats will blame republicans for anything bad that happens when this fucker is in office, I mean they already fucking do. So what would it matter if everything even turned to worse shit than it already fucking is. That would actually help Obama's poll numbers with democrats probably.

And remember, it's a D + 7 environment, he doesn't even need fucking independents.

Posted by: Spoily McSpoilerson at January 24, 2013 05:44 PM (yvHCN)

33 When did we become so polarizing?

Posted by: Piers Morgan politically grandstanding by dancing on the graves of the children of the Newtown shoot at January 24, 2013 05:44 PM (F6KtL)

34 I guess it is a sign of the times in that lefties have decided to turn the anger up to 11. No Democrat can win the primary without being Ultra Lib, and no Republican who can win office can be moderate enough that they will call him moderate.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 24, 2013 05:44 PM (0q2P7)

35 I spent some time reading comments at WaPo today responding to the piece by *I forget* who was actually critical of Hillary yesterday.

Every single retort to the most thoughtful, intelligent comment by a conservative was met with, "Yeah, but Bush and his lies about WMDs!!!!!"

It was pointed out repeatedly that Hillary! and Billy Jeff believed Iraq had them, and relayed the information they had to the Evil Booooosh.

Those comments go right over the lib's pointy little heads.

A commenter mentioned the whole Valerie Plame/Scooter Libby debacle, and the lib's retorts were, "Her career was destroyed!!!!!"

A conservative commenter said, "No one died in the case of Valerie Plame."

*deep sigh*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 24, 2013 05:45 PM (UOM48)

36 Bush lied...well Bush got Hillary to lie too, along with a slew of Democrats who voted with him on the war.

But saying so isn't in the DNC terms of service agreement the GOP signed for some reason.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (QxSug)

37
Hear, hear! Things have gotten really polarizing lately. Not sure why, must be that one group's fault!

Posted by: Hitler in 1944 at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (F6KtL)

38 Completely O/T, but will a moronette please slap me hard if I ever go to the giant Publix immediately after school any day of the week? Or shoot me. Whatever.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (UOM48)

39 Bushy never left troops out to die.

Posted by: sTevo at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (VMcEw)

40 I'm not a polarizing guy. You Republicans are just too stupid to recognize my magnificence.

Posted by: King Barack I at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (cnS/d)

41 "The FSA of West Virginia.

Posted by: Buddy PC at January 24, 2013 05:44 PM (jfUIE)"

That seems like a big number (14% of Dems) for it to be just that.
Seems to me that some members of the FSA, regardless of geography, are going to have to decide if they are FSA for good or if they are willing to give up some of their FS.

Posted by: BS Inc. at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (eP0u9)

42 Romney did spend alot of time saying what a bad deal Obama inherited and distancing himself from Bush. It its true, to a point. But our candidates seem to poll and then try to lead. Maybe they should lead, and the polls will follow. They are conceding alot of ground

Posted by: thunderb at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (Dnbau)

43 As a poster posited on an earlier thread. It's time to register as a democrap. Alinsky and cloward/piven the mofo's.

Posted by: Infidel at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (bzOLE)

44 It's not that Obama doesn't consider himself President of everyone in the country; it's that he's decided that it's cool to put a jackboot on the throats of half the country.

Posted by: Kensington at January 24, 2013 05:47 PM (H84UO)

45 Damn nyquil.

I'm out.

Posted by: Infidel at January 24, 2013 05:47 PM (bzOLE)

46 Bush had a highly controversial and diffilcult war to contend with. Obama is just a dick.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 24, 2013 05:48 PM (UypUQ)

47 I'm right there with that piece. Things have sure gone downhill lately in my country. Might have to take 'progressive' action. For Egypt of course.

Posted by: Mohamed Morsi at January 24, 2013 05:48 PM (F6KtL)

48 Barrack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable SUCCESS!

Posted by: Eaton Cox at January 24, 2013 05:48 PM (q177U)

49 29 Maybe, and this is just a silly idea I put up to be ignored, if the GOP didn't act like George Bush shit the bed and got caught masterbating on national TV while ordering 9-11, then people outside of the conservative sphere would have better appreciation for George W.

In second debate (the turning point against Romney, I contend), Romney should've said to liberal plant that:

1. George W's unemployment rate was low
2. W inherited recession from Clinton which he guided us out of.
3. W gets a lot of hate from lefties who deny him any credit
4. W's policies and tax cuts did not cause "the mess we're in" but rather CRA and Clinton.

Fuck, how hard is it to not concede the narrative and accept the left's terms of service agreement?
Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:43 PM (QxSug)

____________________

They do something like this every damn time.

McCain, Ryan--the list goes on.


Let's say you are trying to sell America--

Coca-Cola.

Now you start eve sales pitch with--

sure Pepsi had a hard time , because Coca Cola really sucked--but buy Coca Cola again--quit Pepsi even though Pepsi is sort of right--Coke really sucks.

Just cuz.

Posted by: tasker at January 24, 2013 05:48 PM (r2PLg)

50 Fun fact on Benghazi -

There was one (1) US Citizen assigned to Chris Steven's security detail in Benghazi.

When the Dems/Left bring up that horseshit "Republican Congress reduced funding" argument, I simply say "Fuck that - there was ONE GUY ...

THERE WAS ONE OF OUR FUCKING GUYS.
WITH OUR AMBASSADOR. IN
FUCKING LIBYA.
ON FUCKING 9/11.

-
mutter~mutter~mutter~mutter

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 24, 2013 05:49 PM (RuUvx)

51 20 The US has never been closer to tyranny than today, and the reign of Barack I has hardly begun!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 24, 2013 05:42 PM (Cnqmv)
---

I wrestle with the question of whether or not it is already here. I suppose as long we maintain the restrictions of the 2nd Amendment on the federal government we are still free, but I do wonder.

We've already seen erosion of varying degrees in some of our other rights and protections guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. We've had fellow countrymen disappear for reasons of speech. Americans are legal targets for assassination and indefinite imprisonment without trial. Our media, education, and litigation systems are by and large apparati of our leftist hosts. Our elections are thoroughly and demonstrably corrupt. Our police are repressive. There is a pattern of systemic corruption of our history and culture.

I have to ask myself, does retaining the right to bear arms negate the rest of these factors in the determination of whether or not I live in a tyrannical state?

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 24, 2013 05:49 PM (1FLBb)

52 But whatever, I guess we just have to bury Bush and concede that every idea we don't believe in doesn't work. That should do us well in 2016 because DNC nominee Eric Holder surely won't hold Bush W. over our head, right?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:49 PM (QxSug)

53 One shining nugget is Mich., Wisc and PA area looking into dividing up their electoral votes by congressional district. It's time the hell holes of the states dictating to whom all the electoral votes are awarded.

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 24, 2013 05:49 PM (lGu1O)

54 >>>I'm not a polarizing guy

Whatever, You're more polarizing than a Gauss coil used to make magnets.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 24, 2013 05:49 PM (0q2P7)

55 Just wait until Syria falls, Iran announces it has a nuke, and Israel launches a full scale preemptive attack on both of them. Anyone think John F'ing Kerry has a clue what to do when that happens? Oil goes to $200 a barrel overnight, gas jumps to $5.50 a gallon, the Dow falls 2000 points, and what's left of the economy screeches to a halt.

Let's see how popular Sir Golfsalot is then.

Posted by: rockmom at January 24, 2013 05:49 PM (aBlZ1)

56
Maybe this nation wouldn't be so polarized if it weren't for the 50% who are right-wing fuckheads. Ever think of that?


Posted by: Sir Golfsalot at January 24, 2013 05:40 PM (7xeJQ)



golfclap

Posted by: TC at January 24, 2013 05:50 PM (ygAxO)

57 Maybe, and this is just a silly idea I put up to be ignored, if the GOP
didn't act like George Bush shit the bed and got caught masterbating on
national TV while ordering 9-11, then people outside of the conservative
sphere would have better appreciation for George W.


He had some positive qualities and successes, but overall GWB wasn't exactly a paragon of conservative values. Many of the MSM / Leftist attacks were unwarranted, but that doesn't mean the poor approval rating was completely undeserved.

I feel little obligation to speak highly of a Republican who unnecessarily increased spending and expanded the role of government.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 24, 2013 05:50 PM (SY2Kh)

58
And remember, it's a D + 7 environment, he doesn't even need fucking independents.

Posted by: Spoily McSpoilerson at January 24, 2013 05:44 PM (yvHCN)

It's not that high, but it's partly true. I think Rubio would be a great candidate the way he lead his way from nowhere to being the Oompa Loompa. I dont think he'd compliment Obama like Romney either. He seems good at politics and lying (seeing what he said about guns after sandy hook).

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 24, 2013 05:50 PM (FKQng)

59 29

the crash obviously wasn't from tax cuts but you can't attribute everything to the CRA

Posted by: JDP at January 24, 2013 05:50 PM (60GaT)

60 "42
Romney did spend alot of time saying what a bad deal Obama inherited and
distancing himself from Bush. It its true, to a point. But our
candidates seem to poll and then try to lead. Maybe they should lead,
and the polls will follow. They are conceding alot of ground

Posted by: thunderb at January 24, 2013 05:46 PM (Dnbau)"

So, if Obama had been in office during the Bush years, or even just Al Gore, what the fuck difference would it have made to the outcome in 2008?
Does Obama or Al Gore have some fucking supersecret foolproof plan to stave off the end of the housing bubble? Well, then tell us the fucking secret already, rather than implying that 8 years of a Democrat in the Oval Office would not have ended the same way in 2008. It's all a bunch of bullshit "carping from the sidelines" posturing by the Dems.

Posted by: BS Inc. at January 24, 2013 05:50 PM (eP0u9)

61 26


No fuckhead, unless I missed the snark tag.


Posted by: Infidel at January 24, 2013 05:43 PM (bzOLE)

The snark was implied by the sockpuppet name. I'd like to say that I cannot believe he actually expressed that sentiment during his inaugural speech, but these are not normal times.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 24, 2013 05:50 PM (7xeJQ)

62 **There was one (1) US Citizen assigned to Chris Steven's security detail in Benghazi. **

This is why Clinton and Obama are so stupid and we should be pissed.

The state of things in Libya was OUR POLICY. There was no mistake. This is what they wanted. Not to happen because we trust everyone but because of incompetence it was what it was.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:50 PM (QxSug)

63 That inauguration speech ought to give Obama the edge

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 24, 2013 05:51 PM (BAkev)

64 oh fun fact about Rand Paul being an opthamologist and, as such, not worthy to critique MADAME SECRETARY.

Syria's Assad is also an Opthamologist.

Dip shits.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 24, 2013 05:51 PM (RuUvx)

65 edit--

They start every sales pitch...

Then the run-on from hell. crap.

Posted by: tasker at January 24, 2013 05:51 PM (r2PLg)

66 Can you imagine what O's departure would have been like?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 24, 2013 05:51 PM (+G57Y)

67 romney picked up a lot of surprise endorsements from smaller, local media outlets.

The Des Moines Register went right back to sucking Obama's ass. I assume the rest of them did, too.

Posted by: Holly at January 24, 2013 05:52 PM (ZKzrr)

68 #15 "Democrat voters have already proven they will give him high marks
regardless of the economy, defecit, or continued wars. They will NEVER
not approve of this asshole. Hell the entire anti war movement just
helped reelect a president who bombed Africa without congressional
approval, committed hundreds of thousands of troops to foreign land, and
fucking claimed the power to KILL American CITIZENS without a trial."

That's the whole crux of the matter, right there. Liberals have generated this polarization BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THEM. They started with demonizing GW Bush and all Republicans, then Palin, then Tea Partiers, then Mormons, and now Gun Owners. Then they blame the polarization on their victims.

But how does this division benefit us? It doesn't. It doesn't benefit anyone BUT socialists and liberals. And they get away with it by "Controlling the Narrative". Past time for some narrative jujitsu, I say.

Posted by: starboardhelm at January 24, 2013 05:52 PM (hHgxI)

69 History will be written to show Obama was a Great Man opposed by a tiny but vocal minority of white men.

Much like all of the glowing, 800+ books about FDR, an endless parade of history books will praise his Good Deeds for generations to come.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at January 24, 2013 05:52 PM (q177U)

70 wait so Obama rating is higher than Billy Bob for his first four years? Insane

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 24, 2013 05:52 PM (NzBQO)

71 **but overall GWB wasn't exactly a paragon of conservative values. Many of the MSM**

Right, when Obama says "the reasons why we're in the mess we're in," he's making that distinction.

No one outside of the conservative sphere is going around discussing how moderate W was.

They paint with broad strokes, don't you know.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:52 PM (QxSug)

72
'Maybe this nation wouldn't be so polarized if it weren't for the 50% who are right-wing fuckheads. Ever think of that?'


How did manage to type that while giving Obama a handjob at the same time? You're pretty special.



Posted by: My GF has big boobies at January 24, 2013 05:52 PM (F6KtL)

73 CRA is to blame for everything.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:52 PM (QxSug)

74 Except a lot of Bush's disapproval ratings came from you jackwagons. I say thataffectionately.

Posted by: polynikes at January 24, 2013 05:52 PM (m2CN7)

75 the crash obviously wasn't from tax cuts but you can't attribute everything to the CRA
Posted by: JDP


The CRA is only one ornament on the Christmas Tree of Fail that is Federally molested finance and housing markets.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 24, 2013 05:53 PM (xz0nG)

76 Anyone think John F'ing Kerry has a clue what to do when that happens?

Go sailing?

Posted by: John Kerry, War Hero at January 24, 2013 05:53 PM (gCa4h)

77 50 Fun fact on Benghazi -

There was one (1) US Citizen assigned to Chris Steven's security detail in Benghazi.

When the Dems/Left bring up that horseshit "Republican Congress reduced funding" argument, I simply say "Fuck that - there was ONE GUY ...

THERE WAS ONE OF OUR FUCKING GUYS.
WITH OUR AMBASSADOR. IN
FUCKING LIBYA.
ON FUCKING 9/11.

-
mutter~mutter~mutter~mutter

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 24, 2013 05:49 PM (RuUvx)

_________________________


Listen I don't know anything about that--and I don't really want to argue the facts.

Let's argue about something I can BS about--

Misogyny!!!

Posted by: Piers Morgan at January 24, 2013 05:53 PM (r2PLg)

78 Wow, obama this is unbelievable since the msm has done nothing but build obama up and tear Bush down....

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 24, 2013 05:54 PM (9+ccr)

79 fun fact:

United States Senator Dianne Feinsteincarried a concealed revolver whilst campaigning against gun rights for private citizens.

Posted by: 13times at January 24, 2013 05:54 PM (h6XiD)

80 Nothing is Obama's fault according to his fans, and that isn't likely to change. with the treatment he is receiving in the media. His approval rating is never going to drop as low as GWB's. According to the media, GWB was simultaneously the dumbest animal on the planet able to walk upright and a soooper genius, able to purposely drag down the entire planet to suit his fiendish needs.

Posted by: Grim at January 24, 2013 05:54 PM (tO352)

81 And the thing with Obama is...we need to get to the point, as a nation, where people just start rolling their eyes at him.

He's already shown he can't move the needle.

I just figured it would mean he can't be reeelected by being such an unpersuasive dolt.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:55 PM (QxSug)

82 There was one (1) US Citizen assigned to Chris Steven's security detail in Benghazi.

When the Dems/Left bring up that horseshit "Republican Congress reduced funding" argument, I simply say "but there was money for electric car charging stations in Vienna" ... and over $200 million unassigned by State

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 24, 2013 05:56 PM (BAkev)

83 The media is to blame for Bush's low approval numbers. From day one in print, TV and every media it was negative.

I like to call democrats the "one to two syllable crowd." The "Bush Lied" "People Died" and other slogans were very easy to hypnotize the gullible saps with easy catch phrases.

Did Kerry lose 'cause he talks to friggin much for the "one to two" syllable crowd?

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 24, 2013 05:56 PM (lGu1O)

84 Here's my shocking alternate theory as to why Obama is so divisive at the start of his second term:

He stole the election.

It sort of makes sense, when your voting base is a lot of double voters, real people won't reflect the bullshit voting numbers.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:56 PM (QxSug)

85 Who's "polarizing" now, bitches?

Posted by: Sarah Fuckin' Palin at January 24, 2013 05:56 PM (KSjsb)

86 Obama's numbers are padded 15% by press coverage, and Bush's are dinged by that amount for the same reason.

If Obama gets within 30 points of Bush, we can safely say he's less popular.

Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 24, 2013 05:57 PM (s8fwg)

87 United States Senator Dianne Feinsteincarried a concealed revolver whilst campaigning against gun rights for private citizens.
Posted by: 13times at January 24, 2013 05:54 PM (h6XiD)
---

No where near as dangerous as a peek at what she had concealed beneath her shirt.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 24, 2013 05:57 PM (1FLBb)

88 55 Just wait until Syria falls, Iran announces it has a nuke, and Israel launches a full scale preemptive attack on both of them. Anyone think John F'ing Kerry has a clue what to do when that happens? Oil goes to $200 a barrel overnight, gas jumps to $5.50 a gallon, the Dow falls 2000 points, and what's left of the economy screeches to a halt.

Let's see how popular Sir Golfsalot is then.
Posted by: rockmom at January 24, 2013 05:49 PM (aBlZ1)


You just gave me a boner, I hope this happens.

That's how fucking bitter I am. I rather that happen than Obama and his fucking friends eat my liberty slowly with a serving of jam to the loud applause of the Democrat party.

Posted by: Spoily McSpoilerson at January 24, 2013 05:57 PM (yvHCN)

89 Check out Drudge.

Lord of the Flies.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 24, 2013 05:57 PM (UOM48)

90 When the Dems/Left bring up that horseshit "Republican Congress reduced funding" argument, I simply say "but there was money for electric car charging stations in Vienna" ... and over $200 million unassigned by State
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy


+ $80 million for a US consulate in Mazar-e Sharif that will never open.

Etc, ad inifinitum.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 24, 2013 05:58 PM (xz0nG)

91 >>>CRA is to blame for everything.

Well to be fair there was Schumer and Frank who were enabling Raines
Not to mention community organizers who were suing banks for not making loans that were very high risk.
Also there was pressure from FDIC to do the very same regardless of the numbers.

So no a number of liberals had their hand in that Cluster F*ck to ruin our financial system. Not just Jimmy and Bill

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 24, 2013 05:58 PM (0q2P7)

92 No one outside of the conservative sphere is going around discussing how moderate W was.



They paint with broad strokes, don't you know.


That's not really the point.

Bring up Obama's reckless spending to a liberal. What response are they guaranteed to offer every fucking time?

BUT... BUSH!!!11!!!

Sure, you can argue that every step of the way the Democrats wanted to spend even more, and Obama's spending and deficits dwarfed that of Bush. The fact remains, though, that he was a big spender.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 24, 2013 05:58 PM (SY2Kh)

93 **When the Dems/Left bring up that horseshit "Republican Congress reduced funding" argument, **

The bullshit argument is stupid on its face.

What? We spend $4T a year and there was no money for guards at that one spot?

How fucking stupid do you think we are.

The budget needs to be cut but I think that we can cut spending and still have guards at the embassy.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:59 PM (QxSug)

94 OMG. I just went to the link at Drudge. That fly did actually land on TFG's forehead today!

I can't believe he didn't snatch it off and eat it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 24, 2013 05:59 PM (UOM48)

95 Here is an example from just last night.

McCain is on Greta's show.

He is talking about how UN Secretary Rice should have made sure all of her information was correct on Benghazi before she went to the American public.


Fine--but McCain does not stop there.

Completely unsolicited McCain goes on to add--

"..just like Colin Powell should have made sure he had all the facts before he went to the UN."

Posted by: Piers Morgan at January 24, 2013 05:59 PM (r2PLg)

96 You haven't seen polarizing yet.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 24, 2013 06:00 PM (DRgeg)

97 Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 05:56 PM (QxSug)

I really think this happened in Florida or they are the most schizo people on this planet. They had recently elected a Republican Governor and just elected a tea parter endorsed Rubio. That Obama could have won Florida by the margin he did does not compute to me.

Posted by: polynikes at January 24, 2013 06:00 PM (m2CN7)

98 >>>he can't be reeelected by being such an unpersuasive

Until we nominated somebody who's persuasive power was so small it couldn't be measured with lab equipment.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 24, 2013 06:00 PM (0q2P7)

99 I can't believe he didn't snatch it off and eat it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


Cannibalism is one thing we haven't accused him of.

Yet.

#PreDenounced @ #racisty #McRacist

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 24, 2013 06:01 PM (xz0nG)

100 yes yes, the "but boooosh" liberals are one thing. I submit that we would never have gotten Fluke's vote. But there are some normal people out there who could deal with adverse knoweldge like the point I knew I missed...to what I said up above.

5. The budget deficit had shrunk in 2006, while we were still fighting two wars, to $200Bn dollars, compare that to Obama's $1T deficit. We GOP knew Bush spent a lot at first but we tried to cut it down (lolz).

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:01 PM (QxSug)

101 You can't fool a fly. Check Drudge.

Posted by: Buck Ofama at January 24, 2013 06:01 PM (y9/yJ)

102 "Like final job approval."

Still waiting for the preference cascade ...?

Posted by: sauropod at January 24, 2013 06:01 PM (WdzGK)

103 102
You can't fool a fly. Check Drudge.




I'm sure there were rats nearby. Other than the media.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 24, 2013 06:02 PM (UOM48)

104 **Not to mention community organizers who were suing banks for not making loans that were very high risk. **


You mean like Obama. Which in my point #5 above, Romney coulda pointed out about "the mess we're in."

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:03 PM (QxSug)

105 Obama may have the same approval rating as Bush by the time he exits office, but I bet you a bottle of Red Stag that the way Republicans treat him when he leaves will be far different from the way Dems treated Bush.

On a related note: A Tale of Three Inaugurations: bit.ly/WRWswa

Posted by: Book at January 24, 2013 06:03 PM (kWk+W)

106 Bush could have avoided much that came his way if he had stood up for himself. The fact that he didn't ,to my mind, is one reason we're stuck with what we've got today.

Posted by: Tuna at January 24, 2013 06:03 PM (M/TDA)

107 As far as the CRA causing all the ills, think illiterate voters who pull the D lever would care or even understand?

The illiterate, either literally or just on issues don't care about their guys being guilty of anything. Just like a relative of a gang banger who just got arrested for won ton killing multiple people one always says "but he was such a good boy." Plus many could have cared less about Clinton's sexual escapades and even if he did admit to roughly seducing one against their will (rape) they would most likely blame the victim.

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 24, 2013 06:04 PM (lGu1O)

108 Yep.... from POST Partisan... to MOST Partisan...

Progress! Yes we CAN!

Posted by: Obamaite at January 24, 2013 06:04 PM (lZBBB)

109
I like the bit near the end of the linked article that says both Bush and the SCOAMTT made overtures to unite the country.

On the implosion timetable, I'm really not looking for anything ASAP. SCOAMTT did a good job of keeping the stock market up during his first term. He has to get all his shit in place so after the burn we have a ready-made safety net ie communism.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 24, 2013 06:04 PM (Sptt8)

110 >>>"Like final job approval."

>>>Still waiting for the preference cascade ...?

Nope. Liberals say to me Tax the rich. I say great 50% tax on all income over median, 90% tax on all income over twice median, when they agree, I ask why they aren't paying their fair share. I'm done waiting for America to wake up. I'm getting a bucket of ice water.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 24, 2013 06:04 PM (0q2P7)

111 and to be sure, Romney took his foot off of the gas towards the end.

The third debate? Agreeing with Obama?

foot to neck, no let up. There's so much to disagree with that every unfilitered second before the american people is gold.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:05 PM (QxSug)

112 I can't think of ANY polls that can be trusted anymore.

Do you get my drift?


Posted by: ontherocks at January 24, 2013 06:06 PM (aZ6ew)

113 113
You can say that again!

Posted by: Tuna at January 24, 2013 06:06 PM (M/TDA)

114 8no, academia is the leftist training ground. Hisotry will be kind to the JEF. They will see to it.Posted by: thunderb at January 24, 2013 05:36 PM (Dnbau)THIS>15Sorry to spoil it for you ace, but Obama will never tie Bush in approval numbers.

Democrat voters have already proven they will give him high marks regardless of the economy, defecit, or continued wars. They will NEVER not approve of this asshole. Hell the entire anti war movement just helped reelect a president who bombed Africa without congressional approval, committed hundreds of thousands of troops to foreign land, and fucking claimed the power to KILL American CITIZENS without a trial.AND THIS>Mr. Blowbama will be the historical Messiah. It's already being taught in schools.

Posted by: Czar of real unfortunate shit at January 24, 2013 06:07 PM (XLuH2)

115 I really think this happened in Florida or they are the most schizo people on this planet. They had recently elected a Republican Governor and just elected a tea parter endorsed Rubio. That Obama could have won Florida by the margin he did does not compute to me.
Posted by: polynikes at January 24, 2013 06:00 PM (m2CN7)

__________________

Florida was also polling better than other swing states.

During the hurricane coverage the media turned that into almost a 24/7 infomercial for Global Warming--Florida because of their usual experience with hurricanes might have been paying close attention--and persuaded by that and the fear that they needed Big Government in times of disaster.

Speaking of fear--the don't touch the third rail campaign law probably hold especially true in Florida.

Posted by: tasker at January 24, 2013 06:07 PM (r2PLg)

116 hmm, And Obama has been lifted and protected from all his actions, from the economy to foreign policy by media 24/7.
Bush was beaten as a mule for 6 years of his term by media.

Beaten for war,
Obama starting new adventures actually without Congress , is ok!
Bush beaten for unemployment by media and dems
Now crash burn, Funemployment everything is awesome , cuz Obama


You know what i didn't hear from Bush.

shit like nazi's , racists, dems are insane, dems hate the country.

i do however hear this now from media.

Bush deeds were faked and made up . for the most part
Obama actually limits all of our rights, writes legislation to be involved in personal choices, give the ok to assassinate americans. Its all good!

Posted by: Ette at January 24, 2013 06:11 PM (nqBYe)

117 @108

This is sort of what I mean by wedge issues.

Romney refused to do anything.

like this, the donks are all about affirmative action (cough cough blacks) which is fine for their base support among blacks, but maybe asians (and who knows whites) aren't happy with it. instead, we lost asians who are actually hurt by AA, keeping them from top colleges.

Gay marriage. Please. There was a black caller on rush who stated that her black donk friends assume gay marriage is a GOP issue. The fuck?? Instead, Romney said bupkis.

And yes, CRA and every issue that came with the housing bubble should have been wedged.

Guns...bitter clingers needed to cling more bitterly is seemed.

immigration. sure sure, GOP scared shitless on this when even FOB illegals are against it. Maybe unemployed blacks or union thugs may have cared about this. Or even unemployed unskilled whites?

You run on issues (aside from general allegations of competence, like a Dukakis) then you get people's attention.

anyway, people are low information about stuff, sure sure, but they know about things they know.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:11 PM (QxSug)

118 Let.
It.
Burn.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 24, 2013 06:12 PM (jucos)

119 107
Bush could have avoided much that came his way if he had stood up for himself.

I was infuriated at the Bush administration for not taking credit where credit was due and for letting the media get away with lies. Example:

Think it was 2007 this following event occured - Saddam's yellow cake, located nearly immediately in Iraq, was guarded and hush, hush, till they could find buy. Once buyer was located, guess it was a logistic nightmare getting the yellow cake mix to the power plant in Canada who was the highest bidder. It went by practically plane, train, boat. Many countries didn't want it passing through fearing the bad guys would do what they do. ANYHOO, this "news release" about Saddams vanilla cake mix making it to Canada was released 4th of July weekend, when product to power plant was delivered in May!

UGH! Plus, hasn't there been much more WMD's found? Where did Assad get his goodies? UGH! UGH! Infuriating! History will favor G.W. but WTF about the country now? Why work so hard to save it, only to let it go full blown commie?

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 24, 2013 06:13 PM (lGu1O)

120 May as well prepare ourselves for President Hillary.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 24, 2013 06:14 PM (UOM48)

121
anyway, people are low information about stuff, sure sure, but they know about things they know.



Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:11 PM (QxSug)

they know what media tells them, they tell their friends,
back to media.

Posted by: Ette at January 24, 2013 06:15 PM (nqBYe)

122 As far as the CRA causing all the ills, think illiterate voters who pull the D lever would care or even understand?
Posted by: Deli LLama


Yes and No. Allow me to prevaricate:

Our number one enemy as conservatives is the idea that the government should be involved in every damned thing under the sun.

Reflexively, most voters would say, "No, they shouldn't be involved in everything," and the next second, "Something must be done! Someone pass a law!"

The GOP has failed to point out the contradiction there and the lack of any good results of having a leviathan Federal gov. But no, they pass TARP and thousands of other bits of crony corporate welfare legislation that corrupt and destabilize markets.

We should have made the idea of a pervasive government an evil and dangerous thing, but too many in the GOP are comfortable playing fireman to the pyromaniacs on the left, putting out just enough of the fire to keep the ceiling from collapsing on our heads.

If the GOP was serious about smaller government, they would make the idea of CRA and other market interventions radioactive.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 24, 2013 06:15 PM (xz0nG)

123 May as well prepare ourselves for President Hillary.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 24, 2013 06:14 PM (UOM4
============================
You are assuming that Teh JEF will abdicate the throne.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 24, 2013 06:15 PM (jucos)

124 It's a tie in the sense of the spread, but actually Obama is *worse* than Bush because the average between the two parties is 48 percent approval for Obama and 53 percent approval for Bush.

Obama has alienated the opposition worse than Bush did, while uniting his own party less. He shouldn't get *credit* for the latter.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at January 24, 2013 06:17 PM (1vNdN)

125 Book--

thanks for that link.

Posted by: tasker at January 24, 2013 06:18 PM (r2PLg)

126 6. The mess we're in...Bush at least passed budgets. Where's your budget, Mr. President? You got zero votes. And you failed to use your "leadership" to get it done. You've said deficits are unpatriotic and yet here we are, you have done anything to stop it.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:20 PM (QxSug)

127 anyway, people are low information about stuff, sure sure, but they know about things they know.



Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:11 PM (QxSug)

Yes, but no one schooled the public on all the criminal aspects to the administration. So that enabled people to focus on their selfish issues.
If I could have waved a magic want at the presidential primary debates, every candiate from Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Newt. Mitt, Paul, no matter what question they were asked, they would start talking about the many acts by TFG that are not to legal. Deaths from FF, how much money wasted... There have been too many chutzpa things he got away with, its hard to mention them all.

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 24, 2013 06:21 PM (lGu1O)

128 >>Uh, no, it's not that. Obama doesn't feel the need to be president for
all the people -- just his micro-targeted macro-payoff base.




I believe that's exactly how the commies stole the election as well.

You can define stole any way that you like YMMV.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 24, 2013 06:21 PM (aZ6ew)

129 Kids are being taught now that he is (and will be remembered as) "the Messiah". and when he's gone history will be white washed in his favor. Or is it black AND white washed?

Posted by: Czar of real unfortunate shit at January 24, 2013 06:22 PM (XLuH2)

130 Bush could have avoided much that came his way if he
had stood up for himself. The fact that he didn't ,to my mind, is one
reason we're stuck with what we've got today.

Posted by: Tuna at January 24, 2013 06:03 PM (M/TDA)


As a wise moronette pointed out to me previously, this is largely because of Karen Hughes leaving the administration after the first term. She stayed on top of him to explain himself and his actions to the public and wouldn't let him skate on it like that pudgy fuck Rove did. The problem is is that GWB was pretty good at explaining things in "regular guy" terms but was uncomfortable doing it and tried to avoid it. I think if he'd have leveled with the public on Iraq it would've made things much better. It's part of the job and he deserves to be called out on not doing it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2013 06:24 PM (hrdOG)

131 Now the right-of-political-spectrum writers and journalists need to turn more questions into assertions. Rather than write, "Is Obama the most divisive, polarizing president in American history?" with a TPM suggesting an answer, all work needs to be rephrased: "Obama IS the most divisive, polarizing president in American history!" and go from there.

Quit meekly asking the question and, rather, just start making the assertion. Don't question your own premise. Go on offense right off the bat. Progressives do this all the time to set the narrative. They aggressively make a charge and put the opposition on defense immediately. Screw that noise; become noisier in your opposition.

Also, moderating snark in many situations might be worthwhile, too. Many low-information voters are too ignorant to get it so it's a wasted offense. Alternately, if your intent is to actually educate to convert others, make the assertion and just provide facts. Snark is nice among your own clique, but it's a turn-off (and probably wasted wit) to those uneducated. IOW, dumb it down into easily palatable, digestible points.

However, to the talking-heads and JournOListers, f*ck them in the ear. Be as aggressive, insulting, and snarky as possible. They deserve nothing less.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 24, 2013 06:24 PM (eHIJJ)

132 We can thank the scorched earth politics that Al Gore and his media enablers did after the 2000 election for the polarization. There are still libtard diehards who think the election was stolen by the Supreme court or resulted from "racism."

Posted by: logprof at January 24, 2013 06:24 PM (jVAw4)

133 we can no longer hope he'll be no worse than Carter anymore.

At this point we're in the Let's hope he doesn't start getting Ks of US troops killed every year ala LBJ.

Posted by: DaveA at January 24, 2013 06:25 PM (hOlQL)

134 **134 we can no longer hope he'll be no worse than Carter anymore.**

yeah, we're way past that. Best case is FDR without WWII or Wilson without WWI.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:28 PM (QxSug)

135 Sure, but My Educated Relatives would say the polarization in both instances was caused by the Right.

The VRWC.

Posted by: pj at January 24, 2013 06:31 PM (ZWaLo)

136
132-Quit meekly asking the question and, rather, just start making the assertion. Don't question your own premise. Go on offense right off the bat. Progressives do this all the time to set the narrative. They aggressively make a charge and put the opposition on defense immediately. Screw that noise; become noisier in your opposition.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 24, 2013 06:24 PM (eHIJJ)
Thank you. When the fuck are our 'leaders' going to get this through their heads!! They will loseevery single time if they don't DO this.
Libtard: "you are so defensive."
Our leader: "I am not!"
Libard: "see. I knew it."
They stack the questions all the time!

Posted by: Czar of all that is wrong at January 24, 2013 06:32 PM (XLuH2)

137 **Educated Relatives **

See the beginning, then the middle, of Seabiscuit.

Being educated is a bitch when your socialist demigod turns the country into a destitute wasteland.

Too bad being educated means being unable to learn.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:32 PM (QxSug)

138 Obama Ties Bush as Most Politically Polarizing President In Modern History
Think about that headline with this previous one as a backdrop:We Must Do Something About The Media—Ace

Just imagine where the objective truth lies if you buy both of these headlines.
....and I do

Posted by: ontherocks at January 24, 2013 06:33 PM (aZ6ew)

139 Wow, format fail
I'm shocked, shocked

Posted by: ontherocks at January 24, 2013 06:34 PM (aZ6ew)

140 I know, it's sad, Joe.

How does that tie in to Seabiscuit...?

Posted by: pj at January 24, 2013 06:37 PM (ZWaLo)

141 "Maybe this nation wouldn't be so polarized if it weren't for the 50% who are right-wing fuckheads. Ever think of that?"

You are a long way up the thread mouth breather, but I can't resist responding simply because I have a mean streak..... the nation wouldn't be so polarized if 50% who are totally anti the traditional American values of self-sufficiency and personal responsibility were residing in Cuba enjoying the benefits of the Castro clan. Ever think of that? Of course you don't, you're too busy chasing your tail running dog lackey. FIFWASIWTSDNS. (Hint: its an anagram.)

Posted by: parker at January 24, 2013 06:37 PM (9p/f5)

142 Also, moderating snark in many situations might be
worthwhile, too. Many low-information voters are too ignorant to get it
so it's a wasted offense.



Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 24, 2013 06:24 PM (eHIJJ)

Eh, I dunno. A large chunk of the Honey Boo-Boos get their information from Stewart and Colbert; snark may be the only form of language they comprehend.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 24, 2013 06:38 PM (7xeJQ)

143 @141, the spiderman character...his family was a bunch of book reading smart people. When Great Depression 1.0 got underway, they're scattered to the wind, and Peter Parker was left with just a sack of books to carry around.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:40 PM (QxSug)

144 142,



Dude, that was satire. Sir Golfsalot? Get it?

Posted by: puddleglum at January 24, 2013 06:41 PM (RGbza)

145 re: snark. That's another thing that I thought would've helped in 2008/12...that most lefties are complete assholes. snarky mean assholes. that people would get PTSD from dealing with them everyday and instinctively vote against more of them.

but nope.*

* but see c.f., comment 84

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 06:42 PM (QxSug)

146 Posted by: parker at January 24, 2013 06:37 PM (9p/f5)


I'm beginning to get the impression that my "Sir Golfsalot" sock is a bit too subtle of a reference to Obama...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 24, 2013 06:42 PM (7xeJQ)

147 92 Hollowpoint,

I posted the numbers NONSTOP....

Bush was a "big spender" is bullshit.

If tou count 1.50 to every 3.5 bucks of debt per year BIG I have some land to sell you and if you take out Frau Botox's reign it drops to like 1.2 to 4....

was it what I wanted?

No, but you may have noticed there was a war on.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 24, 2013 06:48 PM (LRFds)

148 But the flies love him.

Posted by: wth at January 24, 2013 06:54 PM (wAQA5)

149 Fine--but McCain does not stop there.



Completely unsolicited McCain goes on to add--



"..just like Colin Powell should have made sure he had all the facts before he went to the UN."





Posted by: Piers Morgan at January 24, 2013 05:59 PM (r2PLg)


McRINO is such a self-centered pile of shit. During his horrible 2008 campaign, GWB kept his fucking yap shut so that My Friends could bask in all the glory of having supported The Surge. Bush put his neck on the line and I don't recall Juan McVain being front and center as far as drumming up support for it while the pederast was claiming the war was lost.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2013 07:01 PM (hrdOG)

150 remember, according to Obamanomics, money spent by the governement is stimulative* but money spent by George W. Bush was wasteful.

* it's not and they don't care. How is spending half a billion dollars on a company that goes bankrupt stimulative?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 07:14 PM (QxSug)

151 "Dude, that was satire. Sir Golfsalot? Get it?"

We are way past the time of satire. I don't want to "get it". Say what you mean and mean what you say or don't say. Perhaps I am too old for the virtual age of BS. On second thought, I am too old. Forgive my literal nature and goodbye.

Posted by: parker at January 24, 2013 07:15 PM (9p/f5)

152 give the ok to assassinate americans.

This is just nonsense.
Join AQ and you're an Enemy Combatant. EC on the battlefield trumps American Citizen. Don't wanna get HellFired don't join AQ.

Posted by: DaveA at January 24, 2013 07:16 PM (hOlQL)

153 lolz, whenever someone annoys me with insane lefty nonsense, I figure it's a troll and ignore it as it's a joke. Just like with the 2012 elections, that was a joke. We've been trolled. Zombie Reagan was actually sworn in on Monday.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 24, 2013 07:21 PM (QxSug)

154
You don't get it yet. Barry will never be as unpopular as Bush. Bush refused to defend himself. That's why his popularity went in the tank. He assumed a fetal position, let himself be the left's pinata, and didn't care what that did to him or the GOP or the country.Barry, on the other hand,will not only defend himself, he will savagely attack his opponents. Plus the media is on his side. Barry's lots smarter than Bush, he has the media eating out of his hand, and he has a Republican opposition that's afraid of him and is still trying to get him to like them.
And regarding how we need a new media, you keep ignoring how the Republicans are contributing to this problem. Paul Ryan talking about Obama being a man of good faith, for example. Tom Coburn, Mr. Awesome Republican himself, calling Obama a most wonderful man, claiming Chuck Schumer is a civil man and his good friend, and praising Nancy Pelosi. And look how low key the Republican questioning of Hillary was yesterday. No passion, no outrage. No follow-up when she weaseled out of tough questions. Why not a peed of outrage over Hanoi John being nominated as Secretary of State? Why aren't GOP politicians arguing constantly with the Democrats? Why aren't they arguing right in reporters' faces constantly? How can anything change with such a docile, subservientGOP? You conservative thinkers need to figure out how totally awful the GOP is. You still don't get that, just as you still think Bush was a totally innocent bystander in his own destruction. The awfulness of the GOP is the elephant in the room you guys don't want to notice. You pretend it's all just the media. Wake up.

Posted by: Joe Cor at January 24, 2013 08:15 PM (45bmT)

155 Obama won't come anywhere near Bush's final numbers. He'll leave office between 47-49%. Any lower would require his base to be honest about his performance and actual results - that ain't gonna happen.

He also won't ever have to face eight tears of hostile media drumbeat.

Posted by: Sam in Va at January 24, 2013 08:26 PM (YCvRs)

156 Barack Obama, our multiracial and wise President, does polarize. He polarizes the good from the evil, love from hate, racial tolerance from racial hostility. He rewards those who help Him, and punishes His enemies. His enemies reveal themselves for what they are, right-wing racist haters who only support Wall Street greed.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 24, 2013 08:48 PM (VZyOx)

157 Test

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Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat