Sunday Morning Open Thread

What if C-A-T really spelled "dog"?

Posted by: Andy at 07:03 AM



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1 Good morning!

Posted by: Helen at January 20, 2013 07:06 AM (93bH6)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Sunday, January 20, 2013. On this day in 1801 John Traitor Adams appointed his SOS to be the Chief Justice of the United States who also conveniently forgot to deliver the appointment of William Marbury to the “high office of Justice of the Peace. When Marbury filed for a Writ of Mandamus said crook stole the power of Constitutional interpretation, as Adams wanted the Federalists to maintain power even though they had been ousted from congress and the Presidency. I say he was a crook not just because of his crap on the Supreme court but also because while a judge he gave a bullshit interpretation of GA law on the Yazoo land fraud deal which he was party to.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:07 AM (53z96)

3 Good morning, all!

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 20, 2013 07:07 AM (GoIUi)

4 As expected House Republicans sold us out on the debt ceiling.

http://is.gd/TmGIO5

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:08 AM (53z96)

5 But they are going to pass a bill that freezes congressional salary 2 years later.

http://is.gd/per9jN

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:08 AM (53z96)

6 School district “allegedly” tells mom to have her daughter get a breast reduction to end harassment of her daughter. And yes, the taxpayers will fund the bill for this BS and the school official. You will probably never even know her name.

http://is.gd/LSL7Jj

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:08 AM (53z96)

7 RIP Stan “the man” Musial at 92.

http://is.gd/SGjnrS

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:08 AM (53z96)

8 DAY 75

1,385 to go


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:08 AM (XkWWK)

9 Steven Colbert’s sister is entering the SC Senate race for Tim Scott’s old seat.

http://is.gd/15xdkL

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:09 AM (53z96)

10 5 y.o. girl suspended in PA kindergarten for making a threat to shoot another girl with soap bubbles. Yes school insanity continues.

http://is.gd/swXwGA

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:09 AM (53z96)

11 NY commies try to hide their assault on the second amendment.

http://is.gd/eCBOo7

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:09 AM (53z96)

12 There never was a Republican plan to cut SS and Medicare. I want to know who the so-called “conservatives” were who were calling for it?

http://is.gd/NduDTR

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:09 AM (53z96)

13 Get rid of F ‘n F? Yes says Heritage

http://is.gd/io4MmY

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:10 AM (53z96)

14 Kindle Daily Deals

http://is.gd/37nYIY

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:10 AM (53z96)

15 Daily Kitteh

http://is.gd/1ZXBzT


And since I missed the best album thread I have a list of my top 5.

Bat Out of Hell – Meatloaf

One Day At a Time – Joan Baez

Ride With Bob – Asleep At the Wheel

Will the Circle Be Unbroken – The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band

Breakfast In America - Supertramp


And that's it for Sunday and Andy is early today!

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:10 AM (53z96)

16 ABC ran a story on the death of Stan Musial yesterday. And to illustrate it, did they use a tape of a call about one of his home runs or something? No, they used a clip of Obama giving him the Medal of Freedom and talking about how he was the first player to make $100,000.

Because everything is about Obama.

Pfft.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 20, 2013 07:11 AM (GoIUi)

17 I thought C-A-T was spelled K-A-T ,
But D-O-G spelled backwards = GOD !

Which is mans best friend and besides you never hear stories about Kats rescuing a Human...

When trouble is around a Kat is like -
" Hey I'm outta here, been nice knowing ya "

Posted by: American Dawg at January 20, 2013 07:12 AM (trA4n)

18 12 There never was a Republican plan to cut SS and Medicare. I want to know who the so-called “conservatives” were who were calling for it?

I was, but then I couldn't win an election.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 20, 2013 07:12 AM (uhAkr)

19 Before we start making noises about cutting SS we need to reset the for real budget back to Dec 2008 levels.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:14 AM (53z96)

20 19 Before we start making noises about cutting SS we need to reset the for real budget back to Dec 2008 levels.


I think we have to go back farther than that and still cut SS.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 20, 2013 07:18 AM (uhAkr)

21 Oh what fresh hell will this day bring?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:19 AM (XkWWK)

22 That's heavy, Ogre.

Posted by: Booger at January 20, 2013 07:20 AM (xq7pr)

23 Looks like 2001 was the actual low for spending. And Bush actually ran a surplus. And contrary to the Dem lies Clinton did not.

http://is.gd/TuCt1r




Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:24 AM (53z96)

24 Went from the 40's yesterday to 8 degrees presently.
That's not nearly enough degrees.
Where's my glowball warmening?

Posted by: VW Zao at January 20, 2013 07:25 AM (vWZa0)

25 Heard this on Levin on Friday's show - According to Shadowstats.com, by generally accepted accounting principles, you have to factor in the unfunded liabilities when calculating the actual yearly deficit. And when you do that the real deficit for 2012 exceeded $7 trillion, and exceeded $5 trillion the previous year.

And the GOP is going along to get along with a group of traitorous bastards intent on destroying us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:29 AM (XkWWK)

26 Sarah Palin is a freaking genius ...
http://tinyurl.com/adda86n


.... On August 1, 2009--just seven months into President Barack Obama’s
first term--former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin predicted Obama would
attempt to leverage health care to "take away" the Second Amendment
rights of Americans....

Posted by: American Dawg at January 20, 2013 07:30 AM (trA4n)

27 +1 for Ride with Bob

Posted by: f2000 at January 20, 2013 07:35 AM (abiX9)

28 26 Posted by: American Dawg at January 20, 2013 07:30 AM (trA4n)


You just nailed it. For all the hand-wringing about how dumb Palin is from people on OUR side, she's been spot on about so many things. I personally like her. She's not necessarily a "sophisticated" person, but she's got common sense, good instincts, understands what needs to be done and is a patriot.

I will take her any day over the Huntsmans and Crispy Creams of the party, to say nothing of the freak show on the other side of the aisle.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:35 AM (XkWWK)

29 15 Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:10 AM (53z96)

Hey Vic, and all.

I would have to agree that "Bat Out of Hell" is one of the seminal rock albums of all time.

From my perspective, it would have to be Led Zeppelin 3, Zoso, House of the Holy and Physical Graffiti. Those and "Abbey Road."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:40 AM (XkWWK)

30 I have Led Zep IV and Mothership (greatest hits anthology)

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:44 AM (53z96)

31 I also have Abbey Road but I think Let It Be was a better album. Also the "White Album" was better.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 07:45 AM (53z96)

32 16 Miss mrple,

Willie Brown admits it was the inertia of Ogabe's cult of personality that carried him and the national dems to victory.

The cult of personality is reliant on the press.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 07:47 AM (LRFds)

33 Hey Vic.

What can you say about the Beatles? All you mentioned, and Sgt. Pepper, speak for themselves. I think it's just a personal thing with Abbey Road, insofar as it signifies a particular place and time in my life that is memorable, so AR is the soundtrack to that time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:49 AM (XkWWK)

34 11 Vic,

well Vic we here at Ice Station Zebra Enterprises, a subsidiary of Ace Corp A Moron! enterprise have been lectured that some of our wives are in fact going to leave the GOP because of AR-15s.

Not mine she wanted me to build her one but there it is.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 07:49 AM (LRFds)

35
And what if D-O-G really spelled CAC?

The 10th dimension beckons!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 20, 2013 07:49 AM (0WLla)

36 Nitty Gritty Dirt Band- Not only great musicians but according to my friend, who toured with them as an opening act for a bit, a great bunch of guys. Always ready to help out a lesser known band with time and advice. Loved seeing others succeed type of people.

Thanks for mentioning the Zep albums J.J. Bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple are why I can't listen to "hard rock" from the 80's onward. It's just noise.

Stan the Man. They could have honored both he and Harry Carey by playing the radio broadcast of Stan's 3000th hit. I have it on an album.

Posted by: teej at January 20, 2013 07:51 AM (IyoLR)

37 34 Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 07:49 AM (LRFds)


3-D printing. That and a good metal turning lathe and drill press. Time to get my gubmint grant and go to a trade school.

Heh!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:51 AM (XkWWK)

38 Better than Ride with Bob, maybe, would be For the Last Time by Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys. Instant happiness.

Posted by: Buddha at January 20, 2013 07:52 AM (8NlUk)

39 Stan the Man always meant Stan Stasiak to me.

Posted by: Buddha at January 20, 2013 07:52 AM (8NlUk)

40 37 JJ Sefton,

The GOP needs to launch a Votech revolution, you want to know one type of "investing in America!" I could "get behind" despite my knowing that it is of dubious economic "magnifying effect" as Ogabe likes to claim for "mo teachers?"

Every American being able to get 40 hours of a trade insruction and lab work nationwide. Funding for every state to set up regional training centers, coupled with easing onerous regulation and taxation of business taxes. Let people bear the cost of government and let our businesses compete unfettered.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 07:55 AM (LRFds)

41 40 Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 07:55 AM (LRFds)


I was hinting at gunsmithing, hint hint...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:56 AM (XkWWK)

42 41 JJ Sefton,

so was I indirectly, I also think we need people who can make/maintain private generators, air conditioners, etc etc

These bastards are going to try to squeeze our standard of living ever downward.

Part of why we're getting ever easier to control is that we are losing our ability to create things for ourselves over time. I am less handy than my father who was less handy than his. One can't help but wonder if perhaps the conservative population does not owe it to our future to engage in "civil disobedience" of our own by helping subvert idiotic regulations that do little to aid the issues they ostensibly are aimed at and in many cases create new and worse issues such as mercury bomblets in our home.

I've been doing serious soul searching the last three months, and not in the sense of some of the national "conservative" punditry who seems to think "well just accept that Obama and his mad drive to usurp control of and micromanage more and more of our life choices is inevitable."

Sorry, had an interesting evening at work.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:04 AM (LRFds)

43 Maintaining air conditioners/heat pumps was easy until they passed the BS freon laws over that ozone hole scam.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 08:07 AM (53z96)

44 42 Sorry, had an interesting evening at work.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:04 AM (LRFds)

No prob. I think we have to think about getting away from the electronic and concentrating on the electro-mechanical. Not that computers et al are not needed; it's just that we will always have need of mechanical systems, and the more that can be used as is, without computerized components, the better.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 08:12 AM (XkWWK)

45 43 Vic,

Yup which was done for the Sierra Clubbers and the Corporations who were seeing the freon patents expire.

Ozone Scam, AGW cult, and on and on....

the American people allowed themselves to get rickrolled nonstop.

If there were enough garage chemists, metalsmiths, practical engineers, and such we could start going around the state and undermine the blind deference to EPA people engage in.

I think the right falls prey to their instinctive desire to follow the law.

The current senior leadership of the donks glorify lawbreaking "for the cause."

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:13 AM (LRFds)

46 Lots of ice being made here in MN this morning. -15 in my backyard. It's a non-politics day here. The return of NHL play is being savored.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 20, 2013 08:13 AM (n8LUb)

47 Sven and others are hinting at gunsmithing. Now don't get me wrong, I am no master gunsmith,more like advanced kitchen table. It's a great hobby that is and will continue to be very useful.. It takes little to get started. Basic tools include files, the best screwdrivers you can afford, punches, mallet, hammer, a small vise. A Dremel is handy. A basic knowledge of metal working. Likewise woodworking. A basic library ( Brownell's "Gunsmithing Kinks" is great). A lot of assembly and disassembly can be found on the net. Know resources for parts (sometimes you can find stuff locally, like flat springs can often be made by locksmiths as they are used in old mortise sets). Start by picking up a beater or two and just have at it. Starting out, have patience on reassembly, keeping in mind that somebody put it together. Transform a rusty, cracked stock .22 into something any kid wanting to go squirrel hunting would be proud of is a kick.

Posted by: Bill at January 20, 2013 08:16 AM (xFYVW)

48 My son can't decide on college or a trade school. I'm thinking nowadays, the latter choice would be more beneficial.

Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 08:17 AM (9ScGj)

49 26 Sarah Palin is a freaking genius ...
http://tinyurl.com/adda86n

Yeah, no kidding. Not that you would have heard that here, right?

We could have done worse than to have had her as president...

As a matter of fact, we did.

Posted by: turfmann at January 20, 2013 08:18 AM (GgGgG)

50 >>>Part of why we're getting ever easier to control is that we are losing our ability to create things for ourselves over time.


Part of why that is goes back to licensing and fees and regs and permits and etc that prevents people from doing simple things like building a fence without hiring a "pro".

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at January 20, 2013 08:18 AM (RLTt1)

51 A couple years back a video or a pic got posted of the Chicago Black Hawk ice girls. Can't remember what they actually call themselves.
Hawter than any NFL cheerleader squad by far.

Posted by: teej at January 20, 2013 08:18 AM (8nDPF)

52 My son can't decide on college or a trade school. I'm thinking nowadays, the latter choice would be more beneficial.
Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 08:17 AM (9ScGj)


May I suggest the US Navy or Marines

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2013 08:19 AM (jE38p)

53 I agree
For the Last Time with Bob Wills was fantastic
It came out just before he died

Just the first cut was worth the price

Posted by: TexasJew at January 20, 2013 08:19 AM (lD8ju)

54 44 JJ Sefton,

Yup, pretty much. Mechanical thermostats will preclude their using "smart grid" tech to try to force us to not use power. Swamp coolers where able to be used, are another way to ease the impact of "mother Earth" on your confort/health that would be hard to regulate into oblivion.

My mom's 2d husband was a true renaissance man, he was a licensed carpenter, mason, electrician, plumber, engineer, and had a chemistry hobby and a lot of practical experience with vacuum sealing, reloading gas cartridges etc etc.

I wish I'd paid more attention.

His powdered iodine as topical anti infection agent was an amazing home medical invention, it sped up wound closure. No company picked up the patent because it does burn although not as bad as liquid, but I have never had a product more effective at cleaning wounds out.

He and I both would get nicked up on job sites, and once I had a wound that bad enough I whined for stitches, and he asserted would be fine if we cleaned it out.

He was right the doctor was impressed, said i should have came in but that the closure was amazing and the lack of infection was beyond what he would have thought a topical could do.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:19 AM (LRFds)

55 52 NeverGiveUp,

Yeah and historically via the draft that was where you went a lot of the time.

Thing is "all the cool kids want the military budget nuked," or so I hear.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:20 AM (LRFds)

56 >>>I think we have to think about getting away from the electronic and concentrating on the electro-mechanical.


I have a hand-crank 8mm camera but I can't download anything, sorry. Nor find film.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at January 20, 2013 08:20 AM (RLTt1)

57 Thing is "all the cool kids want the military budget nuked," or so I hear.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:20 AM (LRFds)


From what I remember from high school, the "cool kids" all ended up in rehab or working at McDonalds

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2013 08:22 AM (jE38p)

58 49 turfmann,

They hate her because she can destroy them, our side has plenty that hate her because she is right and doesn't have "standing enough or gravitas" to be right.

We're fucked, I wish she would try to create a subscription land trust and lead us on a filibuster to some 2d or 3d world shithole to make a new territory or state.

It is not like it takes a genius to watch the fucking democrats and know they are scumball conniving assholes, but evidently she has balls that Bill Kristol lacks.

I can see why he hates her.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:23 AM (LRFds)

59 That C-A-T thing is like Brett Favre. Is the v pronounced r and the r pronounced v? Or is the v pronounced like v, but in the wrong order?

Posted by: Paul at January 20, 2013 08:24 AM (QO/vU)

60 I woke up to the sound of birds chirping here at the lake. I love being here. It makes it possible to go back to the world for another week. Where do you go got escape from the insanity that passes for society these days?

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2013 08:24 AM (c5J5b)

61 "May I suggest the US Navy or Marines"

He'd love to....but minor asthma. ....and I'd never let him become a squid.

Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 08:25 AM (9ScGj)

62 57 Nevergiveup,

Yeah about that....

gentlemen YOU asked for a miracle I give you B-A-R-A-C-K O-B-A-M-A!

We are being led by glib druggie burn-outs that are 'okay" to lead because "mocha."

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:25 AM (LRFds)

63 Icedog,

If college only one path is acceptable-- dual major, engineering/business.

Everything else equals unemployment.

Posted by: Hopeless at January 20, 2013 08:26 AM (BDHOa)

64 Be careful about the gun manufacturing....creating lower receivers without a FFL is highly illegal (yeah, I know what you're thinking). No problems with the rest of the parts.

Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 08:27 AM (9ScGj)

65 56 Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious,

That's true, it is also true that the right would be far better served asserting its market power by showing its impact.

I said it in the wake of our loss, we need to start following the minority community model, and engage in overt patronage to fight these bastards.

Our morals, and ethics are fine and they worked when the majority of America understood their value.

These kids and young adults, they do not respond to true ethics so fire for fire.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:28 AM (LRFds)

66
Oh what fresh hell will this day bring?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2013 07:19 AM (XkWWK)




There's something allegedly going on in DC today. The MFM is drooling all over itself about it. I've chosen to ignore whatever it is.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2013 08:29 AM (iXWEj)

67 Engineering used to be the degree you wanted. Not so much anymore. From what I have seen around here automotive mechanics are needed and places are paying top dollar for them. So I would say a 2 year trade school makes better sense.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 08:31 AM (53z96)

68 64 IceDog,

Eh it's murky...

http://www.acmearms.com/80percentfaq.php

The main point of hesitation on my part is that you rely on ATF's deference on not trying to chickenshit ex-post-facto alter their moving target definition of "personal use."

You can't sell it, you can't register it in most cases, your state may have laws, BUT at least the last time they posted for the public their rules on the matter they said "if you can legally own a pistol you can make a legal lower."

One of the joys of living in a post legal "republic" is trying to be the amazing Karnak on what the "law" is "today."

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:33 AM (LRFds)

69 Posted by: Hopeless at January 20, 2013 08:26 AM (BDHOa)

I heard all the money was in Ancient Mesopotamian Homosexual and Transgendered Abstract Art Studies?

Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 08:33 AM (9ScGj)

70 64 - I remember there was a guy who produced a STEN variant - you'd load and pull the charging handle and it would just unload itself as it had no trigger mechanism. ATF was flummoxed at the time because it did not reach the definition of a gun - no trigger, no gun, see? He only made a few and those are long since destroyed but it was funny as Hell.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at January 20, 2013 08:34 AM (RLTt1)

71 College or trade school? Depends on the major and the trade. Can't make up his mind? He needs to work at a minimum wage food service job for six months. I took a year off between HS and college and it did wonders for my motivation.

Posted by: Al at January 20, 2013 08:36 AM (V70Uh)

72 College can still be quite useful. Daughter is a statistics/math major, minor in biology. I think she will put her degree to good use.

Posted by: jj at January 20, 2013 08:36 AM (gWO5X)

73 A buddys son went into auto mechanics. Went to a local trade school, that was considered top notch. It was a little costly, but less then a 4 year school to learn interpretive Albanian dancing. Got done, went to work at a local shop to get some experience. Now works at the airport rent a car. Makes damn good money. Lots of overtime if he wants (and he does). The only thing that got expensive and he had to ask mom and dad for help was the tools.

Plus my buddy can get his car fixed just for the price of the parts!!

Posted by: Bruce at January 20, 2013 08:36 AM (Rdesr)

74 A couple years back a video or a pic got posted of the Chicago Black Hawk ice girls. Can't remember what they actually call themselves.
Hawter than any NFL cheerleader squad by far.Posted by: teej
The Ice Crew. Problem is, the elbows aren't pointy, the backfat's awful, and they're all trannies.http://tinyurl.com/a84yl52 (SI link)
See what I mean?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 20, 2013 08:37 AM (0WLla)

75 F'n pixy.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 20, 2013 08:37 AM (0WLla)

76 Icedog,

Which is to say thus far in my life I have never finished an 80% lower or crafted a semi-automatic firearm for a few reasons.

1) not a machinist and *kaboom*

2) I am not in the mood to risk the legal fees to play "no really what is the law today?" When the "law" is the notion of a GS-15 or SES.

3) I've seen little gain on the risk to reward ratio.

I have crafted black powder weapons from kits, and they worked.

A personal favorite "do it yourself" project was the retired master machinist who decided to recreate the Volcanic pistol and carbine and then made a new .40 short round to replace the "rocketball ammo.....

I'll see if I can dig up youtube of it.....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:38 AM (LRFds)

77 "He needs to work at a minimum wage food service job for six months. I took a year off between HS and college and it did wonders for my motivation."

Yeah, he's working for $7.50 an hour now...definitely ready to move on. He's got half of GI Bill I passed to him, so a 2 year trade school would be perfect.

Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 08:39 AM (9ScGj)

78 The wife and I have talked about taking welding lessons together - she for artistic reasons and me to develop a practical skill. She got me a 40 lb sandblasting rig for Christmas and I have a half dozen items around the place to start practicing with.

Need I say that a favorite show of mine is "American Restoration"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 20, 2013 08:39 AM (jZ8D/)

79 70 Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious,

Yeah sorta...though I'd be leery especially with the current "respect for law." Going on.

Basically it is like the hand cranked gatlings.... technically they are not self-loading automatic weapons under the definition of law....

Good luck taking one to the post range.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:39 AM (LRFds)

80 So we're waking and baking at the HQ now I see.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 20, 2013 08:40 AM (Gk3SS)

81 There's something allegedly going on in DC today.
The MFM is drooling all over itself about it. I've chosen to ignore
whatever it is.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2013 08:29 AM


Do yourself a favor and avoid teevee, then. The adoration of President-For-Life Choom Boy I is in full swing, with lots of breathless "anal-ysis" of His Greatness and how he will triumph over the eeeeevil Republicans.

(NOTE: I have no doubt he can stomp the crap out of Boner, McConnell and the rest of the eunuchs among the "opposition." The Poppin' Fresh wing of so-called conservatism is in full charge of "our side" now.)

Shit. I am not a football fan and the NASCAR season is a month away. Looks like HGTV for me....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2013 08:40 AM (yKUrR)

82 79 - Oh, the ATF changed that definition. Wasn't saying those are still about or anything.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at January 20, 2013 08:41 AM (RLTt1)

83 78 Krebs vs Carnot,

congrats you married well, perhaps you could take up metal working at some point and make pressure vessels as a side business for a steam genny?

These side crafts are dying, you have a generation that has fewer people capable of detail brazing than ever before.

We used to be world reknowned for our tinkerers, and now well we play videogames, and I *am guilty* as anyone.

I'm just saying, maybe we all need to find a 2d or 3d us hiding amongst ourselves.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:42 AM (LRFds)

84 Brown Eyed Girls - Abracadabra
http://youtu.be/o4wJGWcHzVA

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 20, 2013 08:42 AM (QLuGB)

85 "I have crafted black powder weapons from kits, and they worked."

I remember when you could pick those up at K-Mart for $30-50 a pop.

Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 08:43 AM (9ScGj)

86 The Ice Crew. Problem is, the elbows aren't pointy,
the backfat's awful, and they're all trannies.
http://tinyurl.com/a84yl52
(SI link)
See what I mean?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck

I flipped through some of the pictures and there are some I wouldn't kick out of bed for eating Flamin Hot Cheetos.

Plus, unlike the wife, it looks like they wouldn't mind shoveling some snow.

Posted by: Bruce at January 20, 2013 08:43 AM (Rdesr)

87

The story about the megaupload founder is an interesting read.

He's crazy to think, when dealing with Hollywood, and Dodd and Biden, et al, that good will prevail for him.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/18/kim-dotcom-fight-internet-freedom

Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 08:44 AM (LpQbZ)

88 Morning!

My wife keeps asking: WTF do we need another inauguration for?

I have no answer for her, and I will be ignoring the whole thing. Although I was kinda hoping for heavy snow or rain in DC..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 20, 2013 08:45 AM (UTq/I)

89
64 Be careful about the gun manufacturing....creating lower receivers without a FFL is highly illegal (yeah, I know what you're thinking). No problems with the rest of the parts.
Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 08:27 AM (9ScGj)


Federally, only if you sell or transfer them. Machining guns from scratch is perfectly legal, as long as the end result doesn't violate other laws. State laws on manufacturing may be another matter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2013 08:45 AM (MBqvE)

90 Shit. I am not a football fan and the NASCAR season is a month away. Looks like HGTV for me....


Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2013 08:40 AM (yKUrR)




I try to avoid TV as much as I can. But it's everywhere you go. Yahoo's front page has a headline that breathlessly begs for people to send them their photos from the coronation. It's an entire media devoted to its devotion to that asshole and enough of the nation who buys into it or is too stupid not to

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2013 08:45 AM (iXWEj)

91
Been paging through The Devil's Dictionary. Bierce's examples of Regalia would fit many within the horde:
Regalia, n. Distinguishing insignia,
jewels and costume of such ancient and honorable orders as Knights of Adam;
Visionaries of Detectable Bosh; the Ancient Order of Modern Troglodytes; the
League of Holy Humbug; the Golden Phalanx of Phalangers; the Genteel Society of
Expurgated Hoodlums; the Mystic Alliances of Gorgeous Regalians; Knights and
Ladies of the Yellow Dog; the Oriental Order of Sons of the West; the
Blatherhood of Insufferable Stuff; Warriors of the Long Bow; Guardians of the
Great Horn Spoon; the Band of Brutes; the Impenitent Order of Wife-Beaters; the
Sublime Legion of Flamboyant Conspicuants; Worshipers at the Electroplated
Shrine; Shining Inaccessibles; Fee-Faw-Fummers of the Inimitable Grip;
Jannissaries of the Broad-Blown Peacock; Plumed Increscencies of the Magic
Temple; the Grand Cabal of Able-Bodied Sedentarians; Associated Deities of the
Butter Trade; the Garden of Galoots; the Affectionate Fraternity of Men
Similarly Warted; the Flashing Astonishers; Ladies of Horror; Cooperative
Association for Breaking into the Spotlight; Dukes of Eden; Disciples Militant
of the Hidden Faith; Knights-Champions of the Domestic Dog; the Holy
Gregarians; the Resolute Optimists; the Ancient Sodality of Inhospitable Hogs;
Associated Sovereigns of Mendacity; Dukes-Guardian of the Mystic Cess-Pool; the
Society for Prevention of Prevalence; Kings of Drink; Polite Federation of
Gents-Consequential; the Mysterious Order of the Undecipherable Scroll;
Uniformed Rank of Lousy Cats; Monarchs of Worth and Hunger; Sons of the South
Star; Prelates of the Tub-and-Sword.

Posted by: early cuyler at January 20, 2013 08:47 AM (1QFtp)

92 85 Icedog,

Yes sir, I crafted a .36 Navy Colt replica with a brass frame.

Not the one I had blow up in my hand in El Paso but....

the fact is the idea that the goddamned liberal can or should make a risk free planet pisses me off.

They will make it "risk free" right up until you have no recourse to their control....and then?

Look I watched a video clip of the pair of divers that went and opened the valve to drain the water at Chernobyl....

That mess only existed because the state WAS above recourse to the people.

Their hands shaking as they took each others' hand to dive in....

they probably saved half of Europe and I am sure they chose to do it

They went into 30,000 rad an hour water and were dead in 15 minutes they had a margin of error to make one mistake each tops.


Don't sell me on "loving risk free world making" collectivists.

They are the ones who order the unit with the men to die not the ones who ever pay the piper.

"for the little man" sure you are Bambi sure you are.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:49 AM (LRFds)

93
I'd love to stick around, but we're at my Mom's in the snowy wilds of Michigan's Upper Peninsula, it's breakfast time and then I'm off to do battle with last night's snowfall before taking the dog on a long walk.

Bbl...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 20, 2013 08:49 AM (jZ8D/)

94 Need I say that a favorite show of mine is "American Restoration"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 20, 2013 08:39 AM


I really wanted to like that show, but was kinda put off by them showing so little actual work being done on restoration projects. Just seeing a piece of junk rolled into the shop and a shiny -- not always accurate -- "restoration" emerge doesn't do it for me.

Back in the day, I rebuilt several cars for myself, tearing them down to the bare shell and repairing/replacing everything as needed. Today, it's almost impossible to do that, as JC Whitney and the old-fashioned auto parts stores have vanished. Finding decent machinists and painters (two skills I never mastered) is impossible now, too, at least around here.

Oh, well. I could justify the effort to rebuild an interesting set of wheels in the past, but can't get up much enthusiasm to put all that time into, say, a Toyota Camry.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2013 08:50 AM (yKUrR)

95 These side crafts are dying,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_arts

Interesting that any one of those stands up better than most careers now

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at January 20, 2013 08:50 AM (RLTt1)

96 And The Horde beats me to it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2013 08:50 AM (MBqvE)

97 Perhaps we could master plastic injection, and vacuum forming processes.
After that, we could build our own pink plastic pistols what shoot bubbles out.

That will apparently get you arrested and declared as a terrorist in Mount Carmel Pa schools.
And now I'm looking at the "Dawn" liquid dispenser on the kitchen sink, and reading that it shoots 190 pumps without refilling.
Do I need a permit for this thing?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2013 08:50 AM (jlngc)

98 Sarah Palin is a freaking genius ...
http://tinyurl.com/adda86n


When has she been wrong?

Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 08:50 AM (LpQbZ)

99 January 22d will mark the 10 year anniversary of when NASA last heard from Pioneer 10. The craft is now far more than 83 AU out. Unless some ET finds it, Pioneer 10 will reach Aldeberan in two million years.

http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/ThePioneers.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 20, 2013 08:51 AM (QLuGB)

100 Just finished memory of light the last book in the wheel of time series.

Rand lives by going into the body of one of the Forsaken, Egwen dies, but everything else works out pretty much how you would expect. It's a pretty dumb book don't read it.

Posted by: Spoily McSpoilerson at January 20, 2013 08:51 AM (CKesb)

101 89 ITC,

a much truncated and perhaps better way of making my explanation above.

It cannot be stressed enough, there is a perverse hatred of the technology in itself not the use of it for misdeed.

These people are anti-progress neo-luddites.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:51 AM (LRFds)

102 So, are there multiple immaculations today and tomorrow to avoid the JEF competing with the NFL and tying the spectacle to MLK Jr.? Kinda expensive, being a narcissist, eh? For us little people that is.

And since I always miss the good threads, favorite bumper sticker was on my car in the early '80s. "UFO's are Real. The Air Force doesn't exist."

Posted by: Dish of Red at January 20, 2013 08:52 AM (Dmq63)

103 98 beach nfl,

"that's not the point" the geniuses explain....

I have more faith in common sense application of reason by the average American than I do any professional politician.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:53 AM (LRFds)

104 JC Whitney is still around

http://www.jcwhitney.com/

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 08:53 AM (53z96)

105 3D-Printers could be our next way of securing our freedoms.

Print 32-round magazines, just to screw with them.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 20, 2013 08:54 AM (FsUAO)

106 JC Whitney is like the cockroach of auto parts suppliers mated with a Jehovah's Witness' zeal to keep you buried in catalogs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 20, 2013 08:55 AM (QLuGB)

107 105 HobboJerky,

I am sure we will have Schumer pushing for "printer control" next....

they will not rest until they can literally put you in chains at no more risk than your fists....

something tells me their "aides" will have plasma guns.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:56 AM (LRFds)

108 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/18/kim-dotcom-fight-internet-freedom
Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 08:44 AM (LpQbZ)

This part is sad: "Back then, Dotcom "thought of myself as more American than Americans", he says. "I always had this attitude of can-do, and if you're successful you can show it, which is a very un-German thing, you know. And now, in hindsight, looking at this, the US has lost a lot of its flair for me. It's becoming such an aggressive state.""

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 20, 2013 08:56 AM (FsUAO)

109 106 Ms Puma,

ah a lot like Napa then?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:56 AM (LRFds)

110
It cannot be stressed enough, there is a perverse hatred of the technology in itself not the use of it for misdeed.

These people are anti-progress neo-luddites.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:51 AM (LRFds)






Yep.

It's amazing to see the look on the modern generation's face when you tell them that you made something from scratch. They look at you like you're a Black Magic witch doctor from Mars.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2013 08:56 AM (MBqvE)

111 Re organically printed gun parts.

I wonder how plastic shell cases would work? Would the melt to the chamber?

Posted by: sTevo at January 20, 2013 08:56 AM (VMcEw)

112 they will not rest until they can literally put you in chains at no more risk than your fists....

something tells me their "aides" will have plasma guns.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:56 AM (LRFds)

Only consolation is that their efforts are futile to control ALL of us. Most people will creep along willing to Bend The Knee when needed, but not all.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 20, 2013 08:57 AM (FsUAO)

113 108 HoboJerky,

Yeah well.....free shit army is not exactly inspiring me not to wonder why precisely history will note 4 generations of my mom's side and my dad's side's presence here since the 1680s "a gain."

If being "American" means "EUrope" with zamy multi-culti underclass aftertaste why is there "an America?"

Grandpa told me, and I finally understand that if they ever turned this into just another socialist shithole find some scenery you like and be as free a you can.

Barry has made more progress than anyone since LBJ getting us there.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 08:59 AM (LRFds)

114 48 college or a trade school
I agree that trade school, in a highly skilled field (not auto body estimating, for example) makes sense for many. But have a look at the curricula for a lot of community colleges - it's all medical transcription, "homeland security", education, and the usual liberal arts stuff! The most common tech skills taught is IT. You really have to hunt to find anywhere that teaches basic trades. Some good focused private schools out there (in the Boston area anyway), but they are pricier.

Posted by: Rule #2 at January 20, 2013 09:00 AM (CypDC)

115 When has she been wrong?

Posted by: beach nfl at January 20, 2013 08:50 AM (LpQbZ)

The mandarins all hate her because she is inelegant, speaks plainly, lacks gravitas, and (most important) cuts through the establishment obfuscation to state what is actually going on!

ACA was an unbelievable draconian move on many levels of freedom (taxes, medical paper trails, increased involvement in state programs, death panels, etc.). But McCain knew that we had nothing to fear from Barky O., so let us see how we like the second "unrestrained Obama" years.
The good news is that our history (which is currently being rewritten) will tell only that 2008-2016 was an unprecedented time of peace, prosperity, and fairness because of King Barack I.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:00 AM (Cnqmv)

116 Uh oh. Andy got into CACs stash! ;-)

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 20, 2013 09:01 AM (5H6zj)

117 Part of why we're getting ever easier to control is that we are losing our ability to create things for ourselves over time.




That is one reason I find the new Agrarian section at Williams-Sonoma so ironic. It's becoming "chic" to do-it-yourself.

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/shop/agrarian-garden/?cm_type=gnav

My dad was able to fix cars, build a house, put a pool in, garden, and fix electronics (that was what he was trained in). He was also a big hunter and fisherman. Many of the kids in my family have tried to hold the torch, but it's just not the same.

Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 09:01 AM (LpQbZ)

118 112 Hobojerky,

perhaps, and if there were still true local control of schools I'd worry less.

They only have to run out the clock 50 years and there will be no "Americans" left.

A 24 year old co-worker of mine looked awed by my little line here of barely remembering the apollo program b/c of skylab and that when we said 'we're doing this' things getting done.

I'm 40 in 50 years I'll be dead most likely.

I'll bet you those 5 year olds will think the book is full of shit when saying man once stepped on another heavenly body's soil......

we are undoing the American age.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:02 AM (LRFds)

119 I flipped through some of the pictures and there are some I wouldn't kick out of bed for eating Flamin Hot Cheetos.I'd hit some of that crew like a Hanson Brother hitting a Syracuse Bulldog.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 20, 2013 09:03 AM (0WLla)

120 IllTemperedCur, speaking from observing this tribe the reason they think such is simple. They have been reared in a throw away culture by parents wanting to give them everything even as they are told to recycle. The media reinforces this incompatible viewpoint. So while that plastic bottle is saved for recycle they do not take care of the phone their parents got them.

So there is no need for them to create fun, its handed to them pre-made.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 20, 2013 09:03 AM (QLuGB)

121 98 When has she been wrong?

The people we should give a second look, are the ones the lefties aggressively demonize. In her case, they turned the volume up to 11 - that should mean something.

Posted by: Rule #2 at January 20, 2013 09:04 AM (CypDC)

122 115 When has she been wrong?

Mama Grizzlies.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 20, 2013 09:04 AM (uhAkr)

123 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/18/kim-dotcom-fight-internet-freedom
Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 08:44 AM (LpQbZ)

This part is sad: "Back then, Dotcom "thought of myself as more American than Americans", he says. "I always had this attitude of can-do, and if you're successful you can show it, which is a very un-German thing, you know. And now, in hindsight, looking at this, the US has lost a lot of its flair for me. It's becoming such an aggressive state.""
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 20, 2013 08:56 AM (FsUAO)




And, when he talks about the lack of privacy, the spying, the loss of personal freedom/privacy, and becoming Orwellian, hits home, too.

He's right when he says, most live in a bubble and have no idea how bad it is, until it (aka the government) comes after you.

Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 09:04 AM (LpQbZ)

124 JC Whitney is still around

http://www.jcwhitney.com/


Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 08:53 AM


Point taken, Vic.

Of course I threw the website into total confusion by looking up fairly basic parts for two of the cars I have redone in the past. I knew better than to think the King of Packrats could still get me brake and engine parts for my fave orphan cars as they did in the Good Old Days.

Hell, I remember the Whitney catalog when you could order parts -- from the Philippines, IIRC -- to build a complete MB Jeep out of mainly new stuff. And Bermuda Bells, Hollywood mufflers and fuzzy dice.

A good thing, I guess. Don't have the time, place or money to build myself a Volvo PV-544 now, even if Whitney's offered all the rebuild stuff for it.

Wish I could, though.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2013 09:05 AM (yKUrR)

125 The cult of personality is reliant on the press.

----

You're telling me.

Posted by: Justin Beiber at January 20, 2013 09:05 AM (ATdet)

126 The house rule here is that there will be no network or news channel viewed until 2100 Monday the 21st.



I do not have to watch my country being flushed down the sh*tter, again.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:08 AM (Cnqmv)

127 http://youtu.be/0Dn9YK8HfH4

A clip of the self-made custom ammo Volcanic pistol replica....

it is actually better than the original design because of his ammo solution....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:09 AM (LRFds)

128 I do not have to watch my country being flushed down the sh*tter, again.


Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:08 AM


Damn, boy, you an optimist!!

Ya think the outpouring of Choom Boy Worship will be over tomorrow night?

My guess is that the inauguration will be Big News for months.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2013 09:10 AM (yKUrR)

129 The good news is that our history (which is currently being rewritten) will tell only that 2008-2016 was an unprecedented time of peace, prosperity, and fairness because of King Barack I.

That may be, but my oral tradition will describe 2008-16 as the period where the sixties rejects finally got their way, and it became more important to have a black president than a good one. So, we twice elected an anti-white, anti-Semitic, anti-American liar bent on destroying the many great things in this country that make him feel bad about himself for really no greater reason than the color of his skin.

In the end, Obama really is a reflection of his supporters: a self-absorbed, freeloading whiner who wants things given rather than earned. That he is also a racist, socialist prick to his very core makes him very difficult to accept.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 20, 2013 09:10 AM (bS6uW)

130 JC Whitney is like the cockroach of auto parts suppliers mated with a Jehovah's Witness' zeal to keep you buried in catalogs.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 20, 2013 08:55 AM (QLuGB)

Yep, and I'ts the crappiest of crappy parts, makes napa look OEM. Good mornin rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 20, 2013 09:11 AM (l86i3)

131 Hey, did everybody take a poop at the same time?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 20, 2013 09:13 AM (l86i3)

132 http://youtu.be/4XlKCIh2Afo

Here's a clip of him loading the custom ammo....

he posted a step by step journal of his plan and execution on CAS City, but he will NOT manufacture any more for any price precisely because of lawyers and "your friends at the BATF"

THAT is what I mean by the regulatory fiat/Big Lawyer choking of industry.

I would happily buy that just for nostalgia and to help a man build a new product for SASS shooting.....

"bzzzt" no joy.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:13 AM (LRFds)

133 Algeria sure fell out of the media cycle in a hurry. More Americans killed while Obama parties, nothing to see here I guess ....

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 20, 2013 09:13 AM (bS6uW)

134 Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2013 09:10 AM (yKUrR)


The 2100 Monday was because Kevin Bacon (The Following), although strictly speaking that isn't network news. We have watched very little news since Nov 6.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:14 AM (Cnqmv)

135 133 blacksheep,

come on now nobody cares, they mentioned it once and nobody rioted over "the video"

I hope the American people wake up and kick their teeth down their throats but I am not holding my breath.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:14 AM (LRFds)

136 JC Whitney went through bankruptcy a few years ago so they probably have a much reduced inventory.


Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 09:15 AM (53z96)

137 Posted by: Blacksheep at January 20, 2013 09:10 AM (bS6uW)


Keep it in the epic Homeric tradition, because there won't be power for the computers.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:15 AM (Cnqmv)

138 Algeria sure fell out of the media cycle in a hurry. More Americans killed while Obama parties, nothing to see here I guess ....
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 20, 2013 09:13 AM (bS6uW)



Yes, and now it's simply cliche to say "if Bush had been potus at the time..."

Same for Benghazi...

Same for Fast and Furious...

America is indeed sick -- and barely hanging by a thread.

Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 09:16 AM (LpQbZ)

139 129 blacksheep,

Nice post.

America where a system that looked slefish created unmatched prosperity shared by all, to be destroyed by a collectivist who costs more to maintain than the entire British Royal family by severalfold.

"irony"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:16 AM (LRFds)

140 Keep it in the epic Homeric tradition, because there won't be power for the computers.
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:15 AM (Cnqmv)

Maybe a class or two on the slide rule and abacus would be wise.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 20, 2013 09:17 AM (l86i3)

141 137 Hrothgar,

Hey now I am trying to keep power generation on a small scale viable bud....

heh we're fucked.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:17 AM (LRFds)

142 Speaking of Inaugurals, finally saw Argo last night. If that was all you'd known of the Hostage Crisis you'd never have known Reagan was around, Jimmuh was hated, the military was gutted, etc etc. Just had a ticker at the end saying they were released on Jan 21 1981 without explanation as to what else may have bee happening. Then a voiceover with Jimmuh talking about how they got them released.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at January 20, 2013 09:17 AM (RLTt1)

143 128 MrScribbler,

48 to be exact....

then if Michelle Dorn-Obama gets the nod in 16....

whatever I hate that people are tolerating what the media is doing.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:18 AM (LRFds)

144 It will be easier for this time period to be rewritten. Look back a few years when Time Magazine was caught editing its online archives. Electrons are easier to get rid of than all that paper of years gone by.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 20, 2013 09:18 AM (QLuGB)

145 Then a voiceover with Jimmuh talking about how they got them released.
Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at January 20, 2013 09:17 AM (RLTt1)

I was kind of young then but if I remember correctly, didn't Reagan tell them he'd turn that shit hole to glass if they weren't released?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 20, 2013 09:20 AM (l86i3)

146 Test.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2013 09:21 AM (ORGYc)

147 "Revenge of the Nerds" is one of the funniest movies ever. Never get tired of watching it. Anthony Edwards's breakout role too.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2013 09:22 AM (E7Dhv)

148 144 It will be easier for this time period to be rewritten. Look back a few years when Time Magazine was caught editing its online archives. Electrons are easier to get rid of than all that paper of years gone by.

It'll be way harder. There's a lot of media - blogs, radio, facebook, twitter - which is damn hard to scrub.

And Time was caught - in the internet age you have a lot more scrutiny.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 20, 2013 09:23 AM (uhAkr)

149 Alright! I've kept my ORGYc hash despite there having been a very rare winter thunderstorm early this morning. (Often my ISP will reset after a storm and my then-current hash is replaced with a new one.)

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2013 09:23 AM (ORGYc)

150 98
Sarah Palin is a freaking genius ...

http://tinyurl.com/adda86n



When has she been wrong?

Posted by: beach nfl

When she accepted the VP nom a couple of goob terms too early.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2013 09:24 AM (E7Dhv)

151 I was kind of young then but if I remember
correctly, didn't Reagan tell them he'd turn that shit hole to glass if
they weren't released?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet

Not really. He knew that was his international perception and he let it gallop.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2013 09:25 AM (E7Dhv)

152
When she accepted the VP nom a couple of goob terms too early.


She trusted the McCain campaign.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 20, 2013 09:25 AM (MPjT8)

153 When she accepted the VP nom a couple of goob terms too early.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2013 09:24 AM (E7Dhv)

Yeah, I have to agree with you. Still, I love the woman and what she stands for. Whatever she decides to do. I'm all in.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 20, 2013 09:26 AM (l86i3)

154 Bevel, go read up on how many times the United Nations wants to control the Internet in the name of fairness. Electrons are far more fungible than gold ever was. So truth will be quicksilver, caught for a nanosecond before the UN Office of Truth adjusts things.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 20, 2013 09:30 AM (QLuGB)

155 >>>What if C-A-T really spelled "dog"?

Doggahs would S-U-E !

Posted by: waldo at January 20, 2013 09:31 AM (H96hE)

156 Are electrons organic?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 20, 2013 09:31 AM (MPjT8)

157 Maybe a class or two on the slide rule and abacus would be wise.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 20, 2013 09:17 AM (l86i3)


Sad to say, I lost a double precision slide rule in an office move. It should rightly have gone to the Smithsonian.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:32 AM (Cnqmv)

158 @ 154 Huh Do we not house the UN on our soil , brings back the Statement UN out of US , hey it is a start..

Posted by: Clemenza at January 20, 2013 09:32 AM (x59Gv)

159 I knew no way Ben the fuckin idiot would ever throw a hat tip to Reagan in his movie. How did the movie explain the "why" for the hostages' release?

Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 09:32 AM (9ScGj)

160 154 Bevel, go read up on how many times the United Nations wants to control the Internet in the name of fairness.

They can want to do a lot of things. There's too much information to regulate.

Having hard copies in a few places is far, far easier to control and scrub.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 20, 2013 09:33 AM (uhAkr)

161 To celebrate Barry's coronation today, Chicago will have a 21 gangbanger gun salute.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2013 09:33 AM (iXWEj)

162
Re: the George Will piece mentioned somewhere above:

But Roberts’s decision limits Congress’s latitude by holding that the small size of the penalty is part of the reason it is, for constitutional purposes, a tax. It is not a “financial punishment” because it is not so steep that it effectively prohibits the choice of paying it. And, Roberts noted, “by statute, it can never be more.”As Lambert says, the penalty for refusing to purchase insurance counts as a tax only if it remains so small as to be largely ineffective.

Unable to increase penalties substantially, Congress, in the context of “guaranteed issue” and “community rating,” has only one way to induce healthy people to purchase insurance. This is by the hugely expensive process of increasing premium subsidies enough to make negligible the difference between the cost of insurance to purchasers and the penalty for not purchasing. Republicans will ferociously resist exacerbating the nation’s financial crisis in order to rescue the ACA.



good luck with that

baby steps, is totalitarianism

I can't wait until the youngin's have to pay that monthly fee that they voted for.

Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 09:34 AM (LpQbZ)

163 158 Clemenza,

"but honey the UN promised it would not censor people or alter history!"

//Mrs. Moo Moo

and people like her are swayed by "he'll outlaw birth control"


fuck the low-information voters they deserve everything coming

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:34 AM (LRFds)

164 @ 160 yeah but the prezzy is using Health Care records and background checks too control US citizens..

Posted by: Clemenza at January 20, 2013 09:34 AM (x59Gv)

165 Regulating the nets is maybe the one thing the left and right always join together to oppose.

Posted by: Icedog at January 20, 2013 09:35 AM (9ScGj)

166 Having hard copies in a few places is far, far easier to control and scrub.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 20, 2013 09:33 AM (uhAkr)

First they made all the old books illegal because of "lead" content. That wiped out a lot of hard copy original researched material.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:36 AM (Cnqmv)

167 Sad to say, I lost a double precision slide rule in an office move. It should rightly have gone to the Smithsonian.


Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB (for the Children of course) at January 20, 2013 09:32 AM (Cnqmv)

I still have mine.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 09:37 AM (53z96)

168 166 Hrothgar,

yeah and they eliminated a lot of even US history in so doing......

try finding a copy of 1880s books that were not in wide circulation.

A voluntary dark age is coming.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 20, 2013 09:38 AM (LRFds)

169 159 - they didn't, since that wasn't the focus of the movie. Instead, the movie was about what great patriots Hollywood has when the chips are down.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at January 20, 2013 09:38 AM (RLTt1)

170 Good Morning Everyone.

We just received our health insurance open enrollment form, of course everything went up, so with the new health care costs and the increase taxes in our monthly pay, we are now down about 300 bucks a month.

I wish someone would throw an egg or a dozen in TFG face as he's sworn in.

Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2013 09:39 AM (pwTow)

171 http://preview.tinyurl.com/abwsdmv
Between "Republicans" like McCain, Powell, Christie, and Scozzafava...
Can you say, "mutated beyond recognition"? I think you can.

Posted by: Thorvald at January 20, 2013 09:40 AM (1V6Pv)

172 "What if C-A-T really spelled 'dog'?"

I'd say the C-A-T was pretty smart.

Posted by: Reader's Digest Submission at January 20, 2013 09:40 AM (eHIJJ)

173

like a boomerang -- all the damage the libs do, come right back at them

per nro via gatewaypundit, manufacturing is getting slammed by obama*cough*care*cough*

http://tinyurl.com/b68ly4w

what say you, unions?

Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 09:41 AM (LpQbZ)

174 http://preview.tinyurl.com/az7q4sm
Nuke them from orbit. Repeat as necessary. The only prudent course. But not our Barry, no....

Posted by: Thorvald at January 20, 2013 09:42 AM (1V6Pv)

175 You wanna hear a joke?

GOP Leadership.

*Barump-ump*

Posted by: Reader's Digest Submission at January 20, 2013 09:42 AM (eHIJJ)

176 I wish someone would throw an egg or a dozen in TFG face as he's sworn in.

Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2013 09:39 AM (pwTow)


I seriously want all the networks to go black.

Posted by: beach & nfl at January 20, 2013 09:42 AM (LpQbZ)

177 Obama's getting the hostages released... to the embalmer.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at January 20, 2013 09:42 AM (MhA4j)

178 Gun thread up

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2013 09:44 AM (53z96)

179 The Bulgarian would have been a better special forces than the Algerians.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 20, 2013 09:44 AM (QLuGB)

180 "I seriously want all the networks to go black."

Racist we much.

Posted by: Al Sharpton, Token Idiot at January 20, 2013 09:45 AM (eHIJJ)

181 Someone tell me again why there is a fear of putting guns in the hands of your average law abiding citizen.
Was it because they were not trained professionals, skilled in the art of not resorting to a weapon in a bar, when drunk?

Yeh....Baltimore City PD has some PR issues to deal with.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/b4lgcjx

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2013 09:45 AM (jlngc)

182 Don't be too sure that the "Left and Right" will ally themselves to not control the Internet. The government ("our government")has no long term interest in freedom or liberty, just control.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 20, 2013 09:45 AM (Md8Uo)

183 spypeach: I'm not sure why more leftards are not complaining about this. Maybe, they don't have jobs or don't plan on buying insurance & taking the penalty which is, supposedly:


$9,500 - $37,000 income = $695
$50,000 income = $1,000
$75,000 income = $1,600
$100,000 income = $2,250
$125,000 income = $2,900
$150,000 income = $3,500
$175,000 income = $4,100
$200,000 income = $4,700

This will undoubtedly go up drastically.

Posted by: waldo at January 20, 2013 09:55 AM (H96hE)

184 I have a real problem with the George Will Op Ed
He states that the qualifying insurance plan will be $400 a month
Maybe for someone in their early twenties
One of my oldest friends is an actuary with Blue Cross
He is telling me with the candy store list of mandated coverage the cost for people in their mid thirties will be in the neighborhood of $800 mo. People in the mid fifties around $1100. That's without going to a doctor at all. And there's no mechanism for the tax rebates to be disbursed.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at January 20, 2013 09:55 AM (MhA4j)

185 "Here stands baseball's perfect warrior. Here stands baseball's perfect knight."
-Inscription on Stan Musial's iconic statue in front of Busch Stadium. Stan was an incredible player:
475 career home-runs, .331 batting average, before they lowered the mound, 24 times (!!) all star, 3 times MVP. Flippin' awesome. And he was a true gentleman and philanthropist. Funny thing is, everyone reading this would know who he was if he wore pinstripes instead of bird-on-bat.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 20, 2013 09:57 AM (M0O7A)

186 People in the mid fifties around $1100. That's without going to a doctor at all.

And in the mid-fifties, you don't need maternity coverage (but you get to pay for it!)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at January 20, 2013 09:58 AM (hO8IJ)

187 126 Hrothgar - LIB
The house rule here is that there will be no network or news channel viewed. until 2100 Monday the 21st.


Fixed. I cancelled my cable service a week after the election.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2013 10:00 AM (sdi6R)

188 #179 I am not convinced that this wasn't a deal to give the Algerians the facility or at least a larger share in it. I put nothing, NOTHING past this group in power.

Also, Bill Ayers is going to speak at some group called the Association of Teacher Educators in Atlanta, as their keynote speaker.

So if you have teachers in your area who belong to this group, I think you can assume they are radical leftists.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 20, 2013 10:01 AM (GoIUi)

189 I do not have the TV on at all. I am afraid the Food Network will sneak an Inaugural food menu special into the line-up.

If someone has contacts with Mark Steyn, who is subbing for Rush on Monday, tell him I don't want to hear one single clip of TFG's Inaugural address. He can paraphrase it.

Because if I hear one word of TFG over my radio, even Steyn goes off.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 20, 2013 10:03 AM (GoIUi)

190 Algeria sure fell out of the media cycle in a hurry. More Americans killed while Obama parties, nothing to see here I guess ....


Given that AGW *consensus* remove the shameful stain of logical fallacy from post hoc ergo propter hoc, what does the new logic tell us about the fact that Obama parties after Americans die in high-profile shit situations in Africa?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 20, 2013 10:08 AM (V3kRK)

191 Our biggest counter to Americans being killed in Africa is The Alaska pipeline which needs to be used and a new one built, just say yes to the Canadian pipeline,Keystone,fracking, and drill baby drill.
Do all of the above and we don't need no terrorist oil.

Posted by: rodguy911 at January 20, 2013 10:15 AM (V92DT)

192 #190 Obama feasts on death and misery. Why people thought he should be the one to reform health care is beyond me.

Let's not forget his jovial shout-out right after the deaths from the jihadist shooting those soldiers at Ft. Hood.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 20, 2013 10:16 AM (GoIUi)

193 HI MM how RU!!

Posted by: rodguy911 at January 20, 2013 10:17 AM (V92DT)

194 Hey, rodguy911, not only would we not need foreign oil, but the petroleum engineers could work here, instead of for BP or some other company overseas.

Nice to see you!

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 20, 2013 10:17 AM (GoIUi)

195 Great Musial facts:

1) He got his nickname "The Man" from fans of an opponent (Brooklyn)

2) 1815 hits at home, and 1815 hits on the road

3) Had the most career HRs while never leading the league for a season (this was true when he retired but others have surpassed his total)

4) Had 5 home runs in a double-header against the NYG in '54.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 20, 2013 10:18 AM (h1tpy)

196 I missed some of you guys, but you know my feelings about the current situation at that place. You can find me here every morning in the news thread, or on Twitter. Also I go to a site that Howli runs but it's closed to public view.

@MissMarple2

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 20, 2013 10:19 AM (GoIUi)

197 Right MM. Lets hope we are allowed to drill baby drill, frack, approve Keystone and other things that will keep us from worrying about the mid east.

Posted by: rodguy911 at January 20, 2013 11:07 AM (V92DT)

Posted by: Robert Oppenheimer at January 20, 2013 11:30 AM (e8kgV)

199 >>>My wife keeps asking: WTF do we need another inauguration for? I have no answer for her...

So, sanitation can earn overtime cleaning up after all the donk slobs.

Posted by: waldo at January 20, 2013 11:31 AM (H96hE)

200 Watching my two Grandchildren and am getting the full MLK the hero of the Century spiel from them courtesy their public school indoctrination. Don't get me wrong MLK was a good Man, especially compared to the likes of the "leaders" the y Blacks have now . You know, Revereeeend Jjackson and Al Sharpton.

That being said I wonder if in MLK's "Dream" he envisioned a Country with a Socialist, Religion hating,abortion advocate, and destroyer of the Constitution. as President? Just a thought...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 20, 2013 12:20 PM (9+ccr)

201 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3scQ0wq5zLE

CATNIP: EGRESS TO OBLIVION?

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 20, 2013 02:49 PM (0It32)






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