Overnight Open Thread (18 Jan 2013)
Daddy Tip
Alright, here's a handy video for you Dad's out there so you know what to do when faced with having to help get your daughter's hair ready.
Comments
Posted by: Richard at January 18, 2013 10:27 PM (4387b)
Posted by: ALH at January 18, 2013 10:28 PM (qyvML)
Posted by: torabora at January 18, 2013 10:28 PM (FGVtX)
Posted by: L, elle at January 18, 2013 10:29 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 18, 2013 10:29 PM (ermEp)
Progressive crypto-extremist Cory Booker has already continued to try to present himself as a reasonable moderate. Unfortunately for him, his more radical statements from the past continue to haunt him. Mr. Booker has come out and declared that “government is a liberation force.” Clearly, in his leftist mind, more government means more liberation, even though it would result in people being turned into defenseless victims or subjected to “food justice.”
http://politicalhat.com/?p=1192
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 18, 2013 10:29 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: CarolT at January 18, 2013 10:30 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Redaer C.J. Burch writes..... at January 18, 2013 10:31 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2013 10:32 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: eman at January 18, 2013 10:32 PM (tBnjP)
Posted by: John Stark Dark at January 18, 2013 10:32 PM (0JB89)
Posted by: BuckIV at January 18, 2013 10:32 PM (+4mBJ)
"To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene," Connecticut State Police Spokesman Lt J. Paul Vance said Friday, January 18, via a press release.
Seized inside the school were the following: a Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips; a Glock 10 mm handgun; and a Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun.
Seized from the suspect’s car in parking lot was a Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun.
The case remains under investigation.
http://tinyurl.com/a9663hx
Posted by: Y-not at January 18, 2013 10:32 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 18, 2013 10:32 PM (+tsoh)
Posted by: joncelli at January 18, 2013 10:33 PM (TIhGv)
OBAMA was invited to Gettysburg for next year's Rememberance Day. he might not get the suckoff he usually gets.
But it was Toomey who invited him.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 18, 2013 10:33 PM (MPjT8)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 18, 2013 10:33 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Y-not at January 18, 2013 10:33 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at January 18, 2013 10:33 PM (IanLz)
Posted by: L, elle at January 18, 2013 10:34 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: ALH at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (qyvML)
Dear Moron horde,
It is with heavy heart and great sadness that I announce the passing of Mackenzie Scarlet Rice and Mason Robert Rice.
Mackenzie was born at 9:17 am January 18th. She passed shortly thereafter in her mother's arms.
Mason was born at 9:40 am January 18th. He passed shortly thereafter in his father's arms.
Thank you to all who have been with us in spirit.
We will be having a private memorial and burial service for our little angels.
We still don't know when Kim will be out of the hospital, but we are hoping early next week. I probably won't be sending out any more list updates until she is released.
We ask that you hold us in your thoughts and prayers through this tough time.
Thank you all again for being there for us.
--Jason
Posted by: kerncon - RIP little angels at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (kaeib)
Which reminds me...
what if we are getting inhaling and exhaling backwards?
What if we can reverse the process, exhaling then inhaling?
Posted by: CAC at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (xRu5L)
Posted by: carolina at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (/M0gK)
Posted by: Basset Feeder at January 18, 2013 10:36 PM (CWHoS)
Oh my goodness, how tragic. So sorry for your loss.
Posted by: Y-not at January 18, 2013 10:36 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Peter Pickletickler at January 18, 2013 10:37 PM (jucos)
And over the past several years, Bob received excellent performance reviews of his "clean, well written" coding. He had even been noted as "the best developer in the building."
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 18, 2013 10:37 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 18, 2013 10:37 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at January 18, 2013 10:38 PM (IanLz)
Turtle burgers. Yum
Posted by: Tuna at January 18, 2013 10:38 PM (M/TDA)
Posted by: L, elle at January 18, 2013 10:38 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Steff McKee at January 18, 2013 10:38 PM (RcG3a)
Guns, ammo, food, fuel, energy; weapons buybacks and cash for clunkers with our money. Driving up all the prices sucks the cash out of those of us with savings.
Think that's an accident?
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2013 10:38 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: joncelli at January 18, 2013 10:38 PM (TIhGv)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (dental hygiene is important) at January 18, 2013 10:39 PM (+tsoh)
Posted by: Adriane ... at January 18, 2013 10:39 PM (TvO05)
Repost from the same thread:
Dear Kerncon,
I am reminded of a moment during my senior year of high school.
My German class had typically been rowdy, and out teacher was still always positive and nice to us. We knew she was pregnant, and one day a substitute showed up and gave us a letter that the teacher had written.
One of us read the letter out loud. It talked about how she had lost her baby in utero and she had to have surgery to remove the remains of her child.
The normally rowdy class became silent, and many of us cried. I don't remember the words she used in that letter, but only the feeling sorrow that it instilled in us. Remembering it now, I still well up.
Requiescat in pace
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 18, 2013 10:39 PM (Vk2pI)
fact that a second burglary of an outed legal gun owner has occurred.
The lawsuits are coming home to roost. Stupid sure can be expensive.
Posted by: ALH at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (qyvML)
It's like criminals are availing themselves of stolen guns!guess we should be grateful it might NOT end up n drug cartels or gang bangers hands.what's a few broken eggs for the children!
Posted by: ette at January 18, 2013 10:40 PM (nqBYe)
Oh, for Christ's sake. It's SAIGA. It looks like that because it's stamped on the weapon in fucking Cyrillic, which is what they use in Russia, which is where it's fucking MADE!
Posted by: Secundus at January 18, 2013 10:41 PM (epI4L)
Good evening couch fuckers.
I'm not a regular, even less so on the ONT, but my deepest condolences kerncon. I can't even begin to imagine.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 18, 2013 10:41 PM (0WLla)
Posted by: ALH at January 18, 2013 10:41 PM (qyvML)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 18, 2013 10:41 PM (QLuGB)
No words. Just tears.
Posted by: Tuna at January 18, 2013 10:41 PM (M/TDA)
--Jason
Posted by: kerncon - RIP little angels at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (kaeib)
Damn.
May time bring you peace.
Posted by: eman at January 18, 2013 10:41 PM (tBnjP)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 18, 2013 10:43 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: thunderb at January 18, 2013 10:43 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: NC Ref at January 18, 2013 10:43 PM (/izg2)
As a dad that raised 2 girls on his own (well not really I do have family). looked pretty real to me.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 10:43 PM (qo244)
Mackenzie was born at 9:17 am January 18th. She passed shortly thereafter in her mother's arms.
Mason was born at 9:40 am January 18th. He passed shortly thereafter in his father's arms.
Posted by: kerncon - RIP little angels at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (kaeib)
poor babies. poor mom and dad.May G-d keep their little spirits comforted and warm, so very, very sorry Jason.
Posted by: ette at January 18, 2013 10:43 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 18, 2013 10:43 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Secundus at January 18, 2013 10:43 PM (epI4L)
Posted by: barbarausa at January 18, 2013 10:44 PM (WWeoI)
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Knee time for you and yours, may they both besafe in angel arms, and may the grace of God abovegive strength and comfort to the parents....this I pray.
Posted by: Richard at January 18, 2013 10:44 PM (4387b)
Condolences and prayers for you and Kim.
Posted by: freida at January 18, 2013 10:44 PM (5I/YQ)
Posted by: TexasJew at January 18, 2013 10:45 PM (lD8ju)
Posted by: Emdoc at January 18, 2013 10:46 PM (0RJ16)
Posted by: L, elle at January 18, 2013 10:46 PM (0PiQ4)
--Jason
Posted by: kerncon - RIP little angels at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (kaeib)
damn...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 18, 2013 10:46 PM (DmCcV)
No No No those little fucks that voted for Obama gotta suffer and pay the debt. No getting out on an overdose.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 10:46 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Steff McKee at January 18, 2013 10:48 PM (RcG3a)
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at January 18, 2013 10:48 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: kerncon - RIP little angels at January 18, 2013 10:48 PM (kaeib)
that because it's stamped on the weapon in fucking Cyrillic, which is
what they use in Russia, which is where it's fucking MADE!
Posted by: Secundus at January 18, 2013 10:41 PM (epI4L)
A Saiga-12 is on my "Guns I Want" list. It will go nice with the Saiga .223 that I...used to have before the horrible boating accident...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 18, 2013 10:48 PM (DmCcV)
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at January 18, 2013 10:49 PM (kpCLl)
So sorry for your family.
In the days ahead I pray that you find the wisdom and tenacity to cope and heal.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 18, 2013 10:49 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2013 10:49 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 18, 2013 10:49 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at January 18, 2013 10:50 PM (kpCLl)
Put 50 rounds thru the Model 10 and another 50 thru the Kahr PM9-- set my target at 7 yards and got all my shots in center mass
the PM9 surprised me- it is a sub-compact 9mm with a 7 rd magazine, and that little pup really barks
range has 5 lanes and there was a 90 minute wait to shoot
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 10:50 PM (8sCoq)
If they come for my gun, I only have to give them the stripped lower receiver, right?
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2013 10:50 PM (FcR7P)
Now I can turn the TV on and not see Ol' purple lips.
Posted by: seamrog at January 18, 2013 10:50 PM (06x7v)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 18, 2013 10:51 PM (Vk2pI)
Damn, that's a pretty good idea.
Well, until you get caught.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 18, 2013 10:51 PM (ermEp)
sorry if I was whiny about Tits McGee tranny pooch.
Nice ONT you get the seuqester done....
I hear some units won't get to keep the lights on.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 18, 2013 10:51 PM (LRFds)
prayers and hugs for you
here is a kitteh for you
http://www.superlaugh.com/1/prayerkitty.jpg
Posted by: chemjeff at January 18, 2013 10:51 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Y-not at January 18, 2013 10:51 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Typical College Student at January 18, 2013 10:52 PM (Vk2pI)
- RIP little angels at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (kaeib)
Kerncon- I am so sorry for you and your wife. How is your wife's health? Carol
Posted by: CarolT at January 18, 2013 10:52 PM (z4WKX)
http://youtu.be/s1TVrNFFQaE
Then there is Berryz - 'I Want It!'
http://youtu.be/AmkYQZFntGY
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 18, 2013 10:52 PM (QLuGB)
Now I can turn the TV on and not see Ol' purple lips.
Posted by: seamrog at January 18, 2013 10:50 PM (06x7v)
But if you have enough cable you can get the free NHL Center Ice preview and Don Cherry's suits.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (dental hygiene is important) at January 18, 2013 10:52 PM (+tsoh)
Posted by: ALH at January 18, 2013 10:53 PM (qyvML)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 10:54 PM (qo244)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 18, 2013 10:55 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 18, 2013 10:55 PM (p/cQy)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 18, 2013 10:55 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: CharlieSays at January 18, 2013 10:56 PM (2aJHq)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 18, 2013 10:57 PM (ewNX7)
Posted by: seamrog at January 18, 2013 10:57 PM (06x7v)
I truly pray that you and your wife can find some measure of healing from here on out. =(
Posted by: KG at January 18, 2013 10:58 PM (IPz9m)
Took my girls to a dance recital once and started doing their makeup. The other mothers took my kit away and said "why don't you just go sit with the audience dad" the only time I remember being happy about having the equivalent of "bless your heart" said to me.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 10:59 PM (qo244)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 18, 2013 10:59 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 18, 2013 10:59 PM (p/cQy)
laughing.
well yes if one must bite trolls heads off we wouldn't want them to become septic
Posted by: ette at January 18, 2013 11:00 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Fox2! at January 18, 2013 11:00 PM (1Qpmy)
Posted by: Smash'em at January 18, 2013 11:00 PM (RDOP8)
Posted by: RushBabe at January 18, 2013 11:01 PM (tQHzJ)
My wife and I lost our daughter in a similar situation (or what sounds like it) 19 days after she was born about 4 months ago. There's not a whole lot that I could say that would help or that wouldn't sound trite, so I'll keep it to a minimum. After 4 months in, I can say that you'll start probanly learning to get by and manage, but that doesn't mean at all that it won't still hurt, and you definitely don't get over anything. Will be praying for you both.
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 18, 2013 11:01 PM (aozUR)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:01 PM (8sCoq)
Life in New York has certainly gotten interesting. You wouldn't believe the groundswell of reaction to the latest indignity. This is upstate and outside the urban centers.
Even LEO plus local gov't is uproared. The consensus seems to be that NO ONE is willing to consider confiscating people's weapons. Several officials have indicated there will be open rebellion, and they may refuse to grab anybody's guns.
If enough of us scream and deluge Albany with lawsuits and protests it may be possible to nullify this crap.
I hope.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 18, 2013 11:02 PM (SAMxH)
---
You have my prayers.
Posted by: Y-not at January 18, 2013 11:03 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: ette at January 18, 2013 11:03 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Water in the pool & at January 18, 2013 11:03 PM (LMtDw)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 18, 2013 11:03 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Water in the pool & Water in the Tub at January 18, 2013 11:04 PM (LMtDw)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 18, 2013 11:04 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: 'Ette in training at January 18, 2013 11:04 PM (zvxqj)
Posted by: ALH at January 18, 2013 11:04 PM (qyvML)
Posted by: Jordan at January 18, 2013 11:04 PM (Hz1zc)
Not much we can say or do now to make it hurt less, but I'm glad that you find some comfort in being here.
May God look over them and you
Posted by: kbdabear at January 18, 2013 11:04 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: ALH at January 18, 2013 11:05 PM (qyvML)
I'm sure everyone but me heard that the GAO said we can't continue to keep up this spending!
None of the other media will cover this one!
Posted by: CarolT at January 18, 2013 11:05 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at January 18, 2013 11:06 PM (kpCLl)
I hope.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 18, 2013 11:02 PM
As much as TPTB want to lord it over us and take everything they can from us, they do not want it to be difficult. They want us to hand it over and thank them for "serving" us.
Politicians like lightning seek the path of least resistance
Posted by: kbdabear at January 18, 2013 11:06 PM (wwsoB)
My nephew and niece have a girl in NICU now--she came six weeks early, and all of our family and friends have a network of prayer around them. There's room for your family and Kerncon's in the circle--bless you all and keep you.
Posted by: barbarausa at January 18, 2013 11:07 PM (WWeoI)
Tears in a Bottle
Many things are kept in bottles. Things of little value, like soda and windshield washer fluid, are most often found in plastic bottles. Liquids of moderate value are distributed in plain, glass bottles, like certain medicines. More expensive liquids, like perfumes, are kept in more ornate, fancy bottles.
But here is something you may not have known. One of the most expensive liquids found, is kept in a very important bottle. Important, not due to its style, but due to its owner. The owner is God, and the liquid is... the tears of His saints.
In Psalm 56:8, David says of God, “You keep track of all my sorrows. You have collected all my tears in your bottle. You have recorded each one in your book.” This Psalm recounts a very distressful time in David’s life when he had been wrongly accused and found himself to be a fugitive in his own country. David holds to the belief that God keeps a record of human pain and suffering and always remembers our sorrows and tears.
Tear bottles were prevalent in ancient Roman times, when mourners filled small glass or ceramic vials with tears and placed them in burial tombs as symbols of love and respect. Tear bottles reappeared during the Victorian period of the 19th century, when those mourning the loss of loved ones would collect their tears in bottles ornately decorated with silver and pewter. The mourning period would end when the tears evaporated from the bottle. And in some American Civil War stories, women were said to have cried into tear bottles and saved them until their husbands returned. Their collected tears would show the men how much they were loved and missed.
Washington Irving is quoted as saying “There is a sacredness in tears. They are not a mark of weakness, but of power. They speak more eloquently than ten thousand tongues. They are the messengers of overwhelming grief, of deep contrition and of unspeakable love.”
You may have shed many tears recently. Know that the Lord has saved them in His “tear bottle.”
Pastor Timothy Satryan
Posted by: RushBabe at January 18, 2013 11:08 PM (tQHzJ)
Losing a child is a very Assad thing. My prayers for you, too, Professor.
I meant to say sad. I have a new iPad and the keys are sticky.
Posted by: ALH at January 18, 2013 11:05 PM (qyvML)
Killing a child on the other hand, THAT would be a very Assad thing.
Posted by: Weirddave at January 18, 2013 11:08 PM (aH+zP)
May your healing be what you and your Wife need it to be. Prayers.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:08 PM (qo244)
Posted by: ChrisP at January 18, 2013 11:10 PM (+ICeh)
I actually posted a bit more details in November back when Ace did his "happy happy what are you thankful for" threads after the election. That was about a month after she passed. Like I said, we're getting by, but things still suck enormous amounts of dog ass. We're probably going to jump back into the adoption pipeline soon, so hopefully that will help.
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 18, 2013 11:10 PM (aozUR)
Good night, all.
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (dental hygiene is imporant) at January 18, 2013 11:10 PM (+tsoh)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 18, 2013 11:11 PM (Ba6aP)
I don't understand all of the constant misinformation about the guns used. The media are obviously idiots.
Posted by: carolina at January 18, 2013 11:14 PM (/M0gK)
Hoss, I honestly don't know how one goes on after such a loss. I am sitting here crying for you and your family and for Jason and his family. It's painful to me and I know it doesn't even scratch the surface of the pain that has been visited on you. God bless you and yours, my friend.
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at January 18, 2013 11:15 PM (kpCLl)
I believe that's very much on purpose and at the WH's direction.
Posted by: RushBabe at January 18, 2013 11:16 PM (tQHzJ)
Loved the music thread entirely, but, I was sitting on my gun pron, in anticipation.
And, btw, either you like bacon, or your wrong. Just sayin'...
It's "black" and "assaulty". A "tricked-out" "pimped out" rifle. But, it is way accurate, a long way out, and dependable. And made in the Great Republic of Texas! MSRP $3,370.00. It's like gold. But it is THE Ferrari...
LaRue Tactical OBR (optimized battle rifle) in 7.62
http://tinyurl.com/b69mt8u
Posted by: Capt. Backfire at January 18, 2013 11:16 PM (mkb9H)
>>
My daughter is about to give me another grand daughter (to give me a total from my 2 daughters of 1 boy and 2 girls) Everything seems to be fine and she's days away. so here's hoping for the preponderance of good outcomes aren't that rare.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:17 PM (qo244)
Posted by: CarolT at January 18, 2013 11:18 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: thunderb at January 18, 2013 11:18 PM (Dnbau)
http://tinyurl.com/b69mt8u
That's what all the "fuss" was about. Whoops!
Or just go here: http://www.laruetactical.com/obr-762
Posted by: Capt. Backfire at January 18, 2013 11:20 PM (mkb9H)
being the non-bitter and loving person I am,
good luck to the green bay packers this sunday
oh wait...........
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 18, 2013 11:24 PM (DOSBn)
So heartbreaking...May God shine his light on you Kerncon and your wife.....so that one day thehurt and pain will ease....so much sadness....I cannot imagine your grief...words may not register right now but try to stay strong of heart and know that your angels are in Heaven with all those who both you and your wifehave loved and lost.... they will be looked after with tenderness and love...
Bless you both.
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at January 18, 2013 11:25 PM (LMtDw)
>>
Muscle car yes but here's a Ferrari.
TrackingPoint’s Precision Guided Hunting Rifle
http://tinyurl.com/b4tcea3
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:25 PM (qo244)
carolina asks why they lie
Today Ace summed up Everything You Need To Know About The Left.
Ace wrote succinctly: " eftism isn't really a worldview which even attempts an evenhanded and universal application to similar situations. It's merely a goal, an agenda, and any means, including blatant dishonesty and laughable hypocrisy and inconsistency, are fair means for pursuing its ultimate end."
And that's why I dont believe a word that comes from the media or from Obama.
I dont believe the crock about Hillary Clinton. I don't believe the reports about Syria. I believe none of what I hear and read from the Left. Nothing.
They will say anything to advance their agenda. Anything. They are shameless and accountable.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 18, 2013 11:26 PM (+7i2c)
anywho, after another totally embarrassing outing wedsnday, I shot the sig 250 today
9mm and double action only
I highly recommend not only this fine choice of handgun but recoomend going to double action if you are totally screwing up your basics
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 18, 2013 11:27 PM (DOSBn)
My condolences. At least you had those 19 days. Cherish those.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:17 PM (qo244)
Thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 18, 2013 11:27 PM (Vk2pI)
Oh my gosh, I am so sorry for your loss. Hugs and prayers for both of you and your families. I cannot even imagine. I pray God gives you extra grace to get through this difficult time.
Posted by: runningrn at January 18, 2013 11:27 PM (Ag5D2)
My condolences. At least you had those 19 days. Cherish those.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:17 PM (qo244)
Thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 18, 2013 11:28 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 18, 2013 11:28 PM (jfSqj)
Posted by: rickl at January 18, 2013 11:29 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 18, 2013 11:30 PM (xIzGn)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 18, 2013 11:30 PM (DOSBn)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 18, 2013 11:30 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: Tuna at January 18, 2013 11:30 PM (M/TDA)
Obama at Gettysburg is..............cognitive dissonance
Posted by: open the pod bay doors, HAL at January 18, 2013 11:30 PM (Dll6b)
That bulldog looks like he chased one too many parked cars in his short, unnatural life.
They need to get a sisal carpet in that room, and change it once a week.
Posted by: tcn at January 18, 2013 11:31 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: Country Singer at January 18, 2013 11:31 PM (mDanm)
I leapt from the music thread, and in my haste, I posted semi-blind. I apologize.
I am truelly sorry for you loss.
Posted by: Capt. Backfire at January 18, 2013 11:31 PM (mkb9H)
Hope all is well with you, and as always, thank you do much for your service! I am eternally grateful for you and your family being willing to make the sacrifices necessary to protect our country!
Posted by: runningrn at January 18, 2013 11:32 PM (Ag5D2)
Manti Teo apparently talking to Jeremy Schaap tonight. It's looking more and more like he was the victim of a conman.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 18, 2013 11:30 PM (NzBQO)
Proof positive that your average man can be lead around by his little head all day and night.
Does not bode well for his future as some sort of intellect, I think that much is clear.
Posted by: tcn at January 18, 2013 11:32 PM (VLG62)
Like that thing that dogs do, progressives lie because they can!
Try to list three or four things of importance, that you firmly believe have been accurately and objectively reported in the media in 2013, let alone 2012.
Try to list three or four things of importance, that you firmly believe have been presented to the public accurately and honestly by any politician in 2012-2013.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 18, 2013 11:32 PM (Cnqmv)
These assholes will never quit.
Posted by: seamrog at January 18, 2013 11:32 PM (06x7v)
143 Manti Teo apparently talking to Jeremy Schaap tonight
talk around town is he was a part of it the whole time
him and his buddies thinks it made him more famous and eaiser to get the Heisman
and they think its funny to con the white man
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 18, 2013 11:33 PM (DOSBn)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:33 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:33 PM (qo244)
Being told he was the second-best college football player in the country or that he had the second-hottest girlfriend?
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2013 11:33 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: carolina at January 18, 2013 11:33 PM (EFeV9)
$695 at the Gun Room in Fat City CO
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:33 PM (8sCoq)
full size or slimline?
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 18, 2013 11:34 PM (jfSqj)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:35 PM (8sCoq)
When someone is put in a position of authority, and doesn't have the
first clue as to what to do, they either lie their ass off and drag it
out as long as possible, or quit.
These assholes will never quit.
Posted by: seamrog at January 18, 2013 11:32 PM (06x7v)
This is a male mentality. A woman can ask for help from people she trusts. If she has a brain, that is, which is not always the case. For men or women.
Posted by: tcn at January 18, 2013 11:35 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: NC Ref at January 18, 2013 11:35 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 18, 2013 11:34 PM (jfSqj)
the big gun- 13 rd mag
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:36 PM (8sCoq)
$695 at the Gun Room in Fat City CO
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:33 PM
tomorrow, they'll be $795...
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 18, 2013 11:36 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 18, 2013 11:38 PM (DOSBn)
We are getting abso-fucking-lutley crushed. The shit? Its real.
The cartels are operating on both sides of the border. They steal vehicles on our side, drive them to the border, and load them.
Recent activity in my sector.
http://tinyurl.com/bhnmquz
She cleared leather. The smugglers shat themselves, and evac'd the AO. The USBP picked these assholes up 7 miles north of the border,2 miles south of my position.
And that is only the highest profile, which you won't see. Estimates have 150K captured since 1 JAN 13 in the Tucson Sector. Double that for those who have crossed the border, undetected, plus 20%.
The shit? Its been real for a while.
Sunday is my day on the border.
AtC, we need your Raptors. It has gotten worse since the election.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at January 18, 2013 11:38 PM (ial2b)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:36 PM (8sCoq)
that is a big fukker
price seems a bit high but not too bad
be sure to get extra mags
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 18, 2013 11:38 PM (jfSqj)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:39 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 18, 2013 11:40 PM (zOP5o)
price seems a bit high but not too bad
be sure to get extra mags
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 18, 2013 11:38 PM (jfSqj)
and I still have a few boxes of .45 ammo from when I had the Colt
awww shit now I want that Glock
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 18, 2013 11:40 PM (8sCoq)
I've had both male and female bosses that were clueless.
I seem to miss your point. Can you elaborate?
Posted by: seamrog at January 18, 2013 11:40 PM (06x7v)
TrackingPoint’s Precision Guided Hunting Rifle
http://tinyurl.com/b4tcea3
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:25
Holy shit. Ferrari? Of rifles yeah. But, in practical terms, at $17 K it's a used Porsche or a new Civic.
Posted by: Capt. Backfire at January 18, 2013 11:41 PM (mkb9H)
Posted by: Cajun Carrot at January 18, 2013 11:41 PM (/pQC5)
Handgun:
10mm a few boxes
everything else including .22 and above nada.
Rifle
7.62, 5.56/.223 hahaha nope
plenty of 12 ga and some hunting rounds like .243 win.
Nary an EBR to be seen. Good selection of handguns,shottys and long rifles. The prices seemed mostly normal. too bad you cant buy any ammo for most of them.
Kern and Hoss, my condolences on your losses.
relurking
Posted by: helofixer at January 18, 2013 11:42 PM (ktu+C)
Maybe these guys at Raptor arms can help if ATC doesn't lend you Polly.
http://theraptorarms.com/
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:42 PM (qo244)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 18, 2013 11:43 PM (DOSBn)
Posted by: Cajun Carrot at January 18, 2013 11:44 PM (/pQC5)
sounds like folks living on the border need to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights. Its exactly what the founders envisioned.
Posted by: thunderb at January 18, 2013 11:45 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: helofixer at January 18, 2013 11:46 PM (ktu+C)
Posted by: carolina at January 18, 2013 11:33 PM (EFeV9)
Not an accident. Deliberate policy. The most heavily-documented political campaign in history, and it succeeds because it first made sure everyone ignored it.
We know what they did with the schools, the press, the unions, the bureaucracy... and we're trying to figure out the right kind of bake sale to pay for all the crap, and the right witty thing to say on the talk show they run.
99% of humans in history have been enslaved by charlatans. When you look at that, it almost seems arrogant that we tried to be different.
We needed to campaign the way they did. Every day, every hour, whatever gets the ignorant to vote for you. Because they won't listen to anything more than that.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 18, 2013 11:46 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: runningrn at January 18, 2013 11:48 PM (Ag5D2)
Dear Moron horde,
It is with heavy heart and great sadness that I announce the passing of Mackenzie Scarlet Rice and Mason Robert Rice.
Mackenzie was born at 9:17 am January 18th. She passed shortly thereafter in her mother's arms.
Mason was born at 9:40 am January 18th. He passed shortly thereafter in his father's arms.
Thank you to all who have been with us in spirit.
We will be having a private memorial and burial service for our little angels.
We still don't know when Kim will be out of the hospital, but we are hoping early next week. I probably won't be sending out any more list updates until she is released.
We ask that you hold us in your thoughts and prayers through this tough time.
Thank you all again for being there for us.
--Jason
Posted by: kerncon - RIP little angels at January 18, 2013 10:35 PM (kaeib)
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Aw, shit! I am so sorry, man. I cannot think of anything worse than having to bury your kid(s). We are wired to lose our parents, but not our children. That they could have done nothing wrong to cause their deaths can only make it worse.
I am so, so, so fucking sorry. Thoughts, hugs, prayers, and condolences.
I seem to remember catching bits and pieces of things the last two weeks as I have started a new job and not been a steady reader. If it's not too painful, what happened? If you can't yet talk about it, no harm, no foul, no worries.
Posted by: Boomer Redneque thinks his usual nic is inappropriate here... at January 18, 2013 11:48 PM (eQnzo)
Usually the first to go. Small fanbase but I've never seen it *not* be the first to go.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 18, 2013 11:48 PM (bxiXv)
tcn,
I've had both male and female bosses that were clueless.
I seem to miss your point. Can you elaborate?
Posted by: seamrog at January 18, 2013 11:40 PM (06x7v)
My point is that not everyone who is over their head in management or a position of power either bullshits or quits. Some actually find people who can help them to do a decent job. I would put most good presidents in that group--no one person can do that job or even begin to have the expertise to do it properly, but they can surround themselves with people who CAN do their part of the job extremely well.
Mostly, the ones who bullshit or quit are men. They could never bring themselves to ask for help. Women can get away with asking for help without losing "face" quite as much.
Doesn't mean that women WILL ask for help, because some women are as clueless as most men in this department.
Very few people have the skills to lead.
Posted by: tcn at January 18, 2013 11:48 PM (VLG62)
Hell that's the cheapest model they sell. But you said Ferrari and that means expensive and only good for 2 things. Going fast and getting laid. Not sure if it works the same with rifles but probably pretty close if you have $17k to spend on a rifle.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:50 PM (qo244)
I can't even begin to imagine your grief, but people very dear to me went through this several years ago, and I wanted to share their blog with you. It may be too painful now, but maybe someday it'll help. ( You may have to go back in the archives to get the whole story)
It's heavy on the Jesus, cuz that's how we roll down South, and I don't know if y'all are put off by that but I hope there is some comfort in there for you.
http://angiesmithonline.com/2008/01/the-
beginning-of-the-story/
You and your wives will be permanently in my prayers.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 18, 2013 11:50 PM (G3CkG)
I spoke to an AR15 manufacture who had 23 lowere left, 23!!
fortunately I had my name on 4 of them
the world is getting MORE unstable and dumbo ears wants to ban guns
well fukkk him and the hippo he rode in on
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 18, 2013 11:51 PM (jfSqj)
Had a couple of buddies in broussard that i was telling to snatch what they could before all this shit started. Of course they didnt listen. Now they are cussin, and im cussin them cause i told them to grab me some 308 before it was too late.
Sorry to hear of your loss in katrina. We were suprised the next morning because we didnt feel anything from it.
Lily when i lived in brou and ike after i moved to houston, on the other hand, was a bitch.
Posted by: Cajun Carrot at January 18, 2013 11:52 PM (/pQC5)
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 18, 2013 11:40 PM (zOP5o)
I'm fixed for shotguns. But I posted the OBR 7.62 on my Facebook 'just to see if I could pick a fight'.
If I spent $3,000 on a rifle, I'd be spending more on the divorce. It's just sexy, and I was following the sidebar thing http://tinyurl.com/bf7oryu about Letterman & Williams getting pissy about the ad in Farm & Ranch magazine. "'Assaulty'...Means nothing at all, and that's the point!"
Posted by: Capt. Backfire at January 18, 2013 11:52 PM (mkb9H)
As of late,
I am thinking alot about the "little" incident at Concord Bridge and at times find myself engrossed with the elements that surrounded "Bunker Hill."
History sometimes repeats itself....which sucks....yet we are a nation that sometimes has to revisit history in order to find a clear path out of untenable
(sic) times as which we of freedom find ourselves presently.
Nov. 6th, 2012 did indeed open my eyes wide........and I am seeking a way out through our history as a nation.
A far tougher road this time around.....far tougher.
Yet.....
Posted by: Richard at January 18, 2013 11:53 PM (4387b)
Posted by: runningrn at January 18, 2013 11:53 PM (Ag5D2)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 18, 2013 11:54 PM (ewNX7)
Hey, babygirl . . . sad and sorry night on the ONT, but it is damn good to see you back. xoxo
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at January 18, 2013 11:55 PM (kpCLl)
It's about punishing The Other and making them go away.
It's why the "peaceful, anti-violence" left can't stop making death threats and death wishes and false accusations and all the other lies.
Their philosophy demands it.
It's why a ditzy leftist actress goes on TV and says Republicans want to legalize rape.
It has nothing to do with reality, but her "religion" demands it.
They can't do what they want to us unless we're demons, inhuman.
Blaming you or me for spree killings is just another blood libel.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 18, 2013 11:57 PM (bxiXv)
Boy, ain't that the truth! I can count on my one hand how many good managers I have had in a long career as a nurse. There were exactly 3 out of more than 20.
Posted by: runningrn at January 18, 2013 11:57 PM (Ag5D2)
B.E.CIC wants to stamp ALL guns with the "Assualt" monkeyer because frankly....
He fears the assault.
Jus sayin...
Posted by: Richard at January 18, 2013 11:58 PM (4387b)
Miss y'all!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 18, 2013 11:58 PM (G3CkG)
Leading is not about asking for help it is about picking the best cats and herding them.
My Boss does not ask for my help he just points me in the direction of the highest priority that he sees form his higher vantage point. He has info I don't and I have skills he doesn't.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:58 PM (qo244)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 18, 2013 11:42 PM (qo244)
Sweet. But if a raptor or two aren't included, we are fucked.
One of my neighbors barely escaped rapine hordes, with her ten year old daughter, just a quarter mile away. A woman, well armed, kept the Mexican ravening hordes away just a few miles from my position, the day before yesterday.
Latest BP estimates have 150k illegals captured since Jan 1 2013. More than twice that have been estimated to have passed.
This hunting season, my leftist boss found several hundred pounds of MJ in the bush, abandoned. The USPB wasn't always interested.
Yeah. Polly or Slasher will work. As long as the target is correct.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at January 19, 2013 12:00 AM (ial2b)
Posted by: DC in Towson at January 19, 2013 12:00 AM (pC72t)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at January 19, 2013 12:02 AM (wbeNt)
You behave yourself. No more trying to tough things out.
We've all missed you too. Gushie says mwuah (she's watching fringe)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 12:02 AM (ewNX7)
You know DAve loves him some .338 Lapua…
Posted by: Capt. Backfire at January 19, 2013 12:03 AM (mkb9H)
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at January 19, 2013 12:04 AM (r7Ddb)
BOY, does that feel inadequate to type.
On another note, can any local Morons tell me what I might be getting into if I were to audition for a hypothetical symphony job in ... Detroit?
It's not ALL apocalyptic wasteland yet, is it?
Posted by: piercello at January 19, 2013 12:05 AM (E/6f0)
Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 18, 2013 11:01 PM (aozUR)
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Well, shit! I am so, so, so fucking sorry for you guys as well. Thoughts, hugs, prayers, and condolences for your family.
Posted by: Boomer Redneque thinks his usual nic is inappropriate here... at January 19, 2013 12:05 AM (eQnzo)
Sounds like man-bashing, but whatever.
If one is over their head in a position, how did they get there? Nepotism? affirmative action? Public Relations?
Sexism ?
Presidents? That may be a bit of a stretch. Most (with a few exceptions, like the current one) had a history of experience in management, whether military, civilian or business.
Wonderwhy we haven't hada female President yet ?
Posted by: seamrog at January 19, 2013 12:07 AM (06x7v)
It's not ALL apocalyptic wasteland yet, is it?
Posted by: piercello at January 19, 2013 12:05 AM (E/6f0)
Let me be blunt: http://tinyurl.com/afvrenr
6th century Rome is a paradise in comparison with Detroit...
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 19, 2013 12:07 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 19, 2013 12:08 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 19, 2013 12:08 AM (Zd/NW)
>>T
The stories I read about the danger of life on the border piss me off. But until there are choke points and consequences I don't see it changing. We need to move The White house and congress/senate chambers to the border before they will recognize the problem though.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 12:09 AM (qo244)
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 19, 2013 12:10 AM (jfSqj)
>>
A tour of Detroit with Steven Crowder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 12:11 AM (qo244)
Oh well, I did just order a vaportini. I'm normally only this impulsive when I'm drunk.
Should be back in a few hours. Have fun, and it's a Friday, so burn the place down if ya feel like it.
Posted by: DC in Towson at January 19, 2013 12:12 AM (pC72t)
i just got on but i want to extend my most heartfelt condolences at the loss of your precious babies. I am so very sorry I pray you and your wife find solace in each other and your faith. it will take a great deal of time but the pain become bearable. But its a lot of time, and there will always be a scar on your heart. I am so glad your precious wife is with you and soon to go home.
words fail. please prepare people at home so she wont have to talk about it too much. I found 23 years ago that was the worst part for me. She will need to be protected a little, but i am sure your gut has already told you that.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at January 19, 2013 12:13 AM (r7Ddb)
Jessie Duff, who is a national ranked shooter demonstrates diffrent firearms plus shows off her noticeable rack
boobeh's and guns!!!!!
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 19, 2013 12:14 AM (jfSqj)
Add Kris and Bruce Jenner to the growing list of celebutards who have
been recently "swatted". Tom Cruise, Teh Bieber and Ashton Kutcher were
all recently swatted as well.
Posted by: runningrn at January 18, 2013 11:53 PM
When something really bad happens to someone so "important" to society, the MSM will make SWATing their newest crisis that calls for the government to "DO SOMETHING". They'll have endless reports and opinions about how no one saw this coming when it's been happening for a long time and none of them gave a shit since it wasn't a valued "celebrity" who was victimized
Then they'll call for more restrictions on the rights of the law abiding, unless you're a member of the privileged class who have the "intellect to handle freedoms"
Posted by: kbdabear at January 19, 2013 12:15 AM (wwsoB)
204
If you are 1st violin or somewhere close, might I suggest the "Basic Black Level III Kevlar? The optional creamic plate "Bow Tie" will defeat NATO 7.62 rounds to the throat, but the chest plate may mess with your bow strokes....that help?
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 12:15 AM (4387b)
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 19, 2013 12:16 AM (/pQC5)
It will be so nice to see someone on television who is more pro-American than anyone on US networks.
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 19, 2013 12:16 AM (Zd/NW)
Professor, I'm very sorry to read about your 19 day old daughter. I will say a prayer for you and your family.
Posted by: CarolT at January 19, 2013 12:17 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 19, 2013 12:17 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 19, 2013 12:16 AM (/pQC5)
I'm just in the same room with the cackling in the background
but I do seem more dumb now
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 19, 2013 12:18 AM (jfSqj)
I just want to say this.
CNN has CELEBRATED Adam Lanza's life and achievements, by holding non-stop "news coverage" since those children were killed (in the cause of seizing guns) over a month ago.
The key word is CELEBRATED. Come on, you do not get this kind of news coverage from the Media unless you are CELEBRATED.
We NEED to ram that word down the Media's throat. If we can count on congressional Republicans...oh crap.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 19, 2013 12:21 AM (xjpRj)
Thats your balls packing up
. They are detecting imminent brain shut down. Posted by: cajun carrot at January 19, 2013 12:23 AM (/pQC5)
Mancard destroyed
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 19, 2013 12:16 AM (/pQC5)
I'm just in the same room with the cackling in the background
but I do seem more dumb now
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 19, 2013 12:18 AM (jfSqj)
Not that noticeable.
Posted by: MrCaniac taking the hanging curveball deep over the centerfield wall at January 19, 2013 12:23 AM (Zd/NW)
218
I must register protest at your attempt to destroy Jake's mancard.
BOOBEH's + Guns go together like pancakes and maple syrup,
with BUTTER!
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 12:24 AM (4387b)
But, IMHO, an open debate over public policy, and Constitutional Rights, is good for freedom.
However, the "progressives" want to use the debate to justify the coercive power of the government to infringe upon the rights of us good, thoughtful, law-abiding folks, because of what some crazies among us have done.
We must not permit this to happen.
The whole purpose of the Constitution is to insulate and insure personal freedom -- from the lust for power of those in government, and from the passions of the (mostly LIV) populace who sent them there.
For now: Keep Calm and Carry On...and prepare, until it's time to go "full on" Patriot.
I fear that time is growing nearer to hand.
"The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpation of power by rulers. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally ... enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
-- Joseph Story, Supreme Court Justice, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, p. 3:746-7, 1833
"PALLADIUM..OF LIBERTIES..."
Goodnight all. It's witching hour EST. Much love.
Posted by: Capt. Backfire at January 19, 2013 12:24 AM (mkb9H)
Posted by: piercello at January 19, 2013 12:25 AM (E/6f0)
Posted by: Richard at January 18, 2013 11:53 PM (4387b)
My attempt at a pep talk:
Even with the media acting against us (and they obviously were), Nov. 6, 2012 was not inevitable.
1. If the Romney campaign had spent more than a fraction of its time rebutting Obama's attacks, things might have been different.
2. If George Bush and the Republican Party leadership hadn't spent the 2000s squelching every bit of young blood in the party in favor of incumbents, we would have had better candidates.
3. If Bush had spent time rebutting Democratic attacks, we would have done better in the '06 and '08 congressional elections, which also would have provided better candidates by the time 2012 rolled around.
4. If the McCain camp had defended Palin, she might not have been as damaged as she was when 2008 was over.
I'm still on the verge of let-it-burn, but those are four things that could have altered 2012 that weren't instances of the American people f'king up, but of us. And I don't I don't just mean the Republican Party elites. I also mean us. For instance, people on our side defended Bush for far too long. All is not lost. There's more that can be done... At least for a few months...
Posted by: AD at January 19, 2013 12:25 AM (pcUFD)
Posted by: AD at January 19, 2013 12:26 AM (pcUFD)
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 19, 2013 12:26 AM (/pQC5)
The stories I read about the danger of life on the border piss me off. But until there are choke points and consequences I don't see it changing. We need to move The White house and congress/senate chambers to the border before they will recognize the problem though.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 12:09 AM (qo244)
Buzzsaw-That's the best idea I have read in weeks! Send the fools out of DC and into AZ!
Posted by: CarolT at January 19, 2013 12:28 AM (z4WKX)
Beware of waterfowl shot gun rounds....
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 19, 2013 12:28 AM (jfSqj)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 18, 2013 11:10 PM (+tsoh)
Yes. I think you speak for all of us.
God bless the babies, comfort the bereaved parents, and make us all grateful for those near us who share our sorrows and our joys.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2013 12:29 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 12:31 AM (XDC0v)
Brother, we who have lost young ones share your pain. We cannot assuage it, but we know it. It does not get easier. But time does make a difference. The youngest are in a far better place than we hope to be. They will only know the purest of joy.
Twice the pain can only be harder. But know this.
They cannot be lost. They sing amongst the angels, for they are of them. And they will await you in the Heavens, to bring you the joy denied you on this mortal coil. And it shall be for eternity.
Your Lost have been found. And He shall keep them, knowing you will Joyously await them on the other side. But it is the waiting that is most horrible. And the one thing you must bear.
Wait, Brother. And it shall be yours.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at January 19, 2013 12:31 AM (ial2b)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2011/jan/02/photography-detroit
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 12:31 AM (qo244)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 12:35 AM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 12:35 AM (4387b)
guess what starts in 8 days
LITTLE GIRL MMA
aka soccer
uggggh
Hey navycopjoe....
I want to hear stories!!!
Posted by: NC Ref at January 19, 2013 12:36 AM (/izg2)
Hidey ho, morons.
______
It's Heidi, not "Hidey", and you can find more than 20 of us so-named on LinkedIn.
And it's "Ms. Ho" to you.
Posted by: Heidi Ho at January 19, 2013 12:39 AM (HVtRc)
Posted by: piercello at January 19, 2013 12:05 AM (E/6f0)
One of my kids went to Hillsdale College, which is about an hour west of Detroit. She says the Detroit airport is very nice!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2013 12:39 AM (C8mVl)
I don't know, this seems like a good time to take some profit, too.
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 12:40 AM (FcR7P)
You're getting into a long commute to work. You don't wanna live anywhere near that place. Even 10 miles out in someplace like Centerline is kinda not so good.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 19, 2013 12:41 AM (3QaxX)
Posted by: Heidi Ho at January 19, 2013 12:39 AM (HVtRc)
That's Hedley!
Posted by: Hedley LaMarr at January 19, 2013 12:41 AM (Vk2pI)
237
Please, do not take offense, back in the day Detroit was THE POWERHOUSE for American auto development. I just like to rub it in that the Democrates have run it into the ground for the last 60+ years with the help of the UNIONS...natch... we should not be shy about WHO f-up'd Detroit....ever!
This is a snap-shot for the rest of the country, given the present Overlords....
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 12:43 AM (4387b)
Is there some sort of holiday I am missing?
First heard the fireworks when doing dishes.
*Oooh, crackly! Sounds like fun, let's go see!*
Huh.
Whistle of a bottle rocket, nothing above fence
Posted by: Deety at January 19, 2013 12:43 AM (aOVhq)
How 'bout dem Bears! Super Bowl bound....
Oh wait......
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Posted by: NC Ref at January 19, 2013 12:44 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 12:46 AM (4387b)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 12:47 AM (XDC0v)
Posted by: CarolT at January 19, 2013 12:48 AM (z4WKX)
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You're obviously wrong. Did the liberal news media back in the 60's CELEBRATE Lee Harvey Oswald's name, after he killed the liberal (but not bat-shit crazy, like today's "progressives") JFK?
No, they didn't. They used his name because it was news-worthy.
Today's news media may well be exploiting the Sandy Hook event, but they're not CELEBRATING the insane murderer by mentioning his name.
Disagree? Provide some facts. Then argue the case. No more drive-by assertions unaccompanied by facts and reasoning.
Posted by: Blackwater at January 19, 2013 12:49 AM (HVtRc)
Posted by: lou's a girl at January 19, 2013 12:50 AM (oR0vZ)
http://tinyurl.com/asqtbbx
Looks like it does everything you'd need to do for a personal "fire and forget" type pre-programmed flight profile.
The resistance could put something like this to pretty good use. Pinpoint micro-weapon delivery, modern day carrier pigeon, automated target recon, etc.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 19, 2013 12:50 AM (3QaxX)
250
Not worried here in CA. Az is just a short drive away, unless they set up check-points like the DON'T HAVE on the Cali/Mex border.....
Yup!
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 12:53 AM (4387b)
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 19, 2013 12:53 AM (QyMDY)
You didn't look at the link or read what I wrote at 237 to the end did you?
And the previous post I had on Detroit linked this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw
I agree Detroit's F'ed up but why would I take offense.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 12:54 AM (qo244)
Definition 3:
": to hold up or play up for public notice"
Sorry dude, the word works in this case.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 19, 2013 12:54 AM (3QaxX)
Okay. It being a 'long' weekend due to Federal/ US Army rules (meaning my sorry ass doesn't have to show up for work until Tuesday...
How many of you Morons/ettes will show up o the meeting of the unorganised militia?
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at January 19, 2013 12:54 AM (ial2b)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 12:55 AM (4387b)
Posted by: bill-o at January 19, 2013 12:56 AM (AWwDY)
How happy is Lance Armstrong that the fake dead gf story pushed him out of the news?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 12:58 AM (ewNX7)
Posted by: piercello at January 19, 2013 01:00 AM (E/6f0)
How many of you Morons/ettes will show up o the meeting of the unorganised militia?
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at January 19, 2013 12:54 AM (ial2b)
Will there be punch and cookies? More people will come if you have punch and cookies.
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 19, 2013 01:01 AM (Zd/NW)
The difference in an insurgency here in the USA vs the ones we've been seeing in the ME is talent. There are so many little shops that will be on our side that can do amazing crap they will rue the day they fucked with us. RC plane fanatic coupled with a chemist = drone .The combinations of talent here are way different than anything any govt has ever seen if they back us into that corner.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 01:01 AM (qo244)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 19, 2013 01:01 AM (DOSBn)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 19, 2013 01:03 AM (NzBQO)
Posted by: and irresolute at January 19, 2013 01:05 AM (DBH1h)
Talk to Merovign. He knows all about the cookies since the dark side got them.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 19, 2013 01:05 AM (ewNX7)
Prayers !!!!!!!!
Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at January 19, 2013 01:08 AM (nftx1)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 01:10 AM (4387b)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 01:10 AM (4387b)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 19, 2013 01:12 AM (DOSBn)
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 19, 2013 01:13 AM (3QaxX)
world. If you have an online girlfriend you need to skype that, no black
boxes.>>
1)Mastermind is out, what was the upside/payoff
2) Gullible, maybe don't now him from Adam so can't tell
3) A Joke/prank that didn't get caught like they expected it would and he and his buddies propped it up too long.
I'm guessing 3.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 01:14 AM (qo244)
Says She wants to be buried with them as She will need them later!
Posted by: OldDog at January 19, 2013 01:15 AM (tQYJH)
Either Teo is an evil mastermind, or the most gullible person in the
world. If you have an online girlfriend you need to skype that, no black
boxes.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 19, 2013 01:03 AM (NzBQO)
Black box? Racist!!!!
Posted by: MrCaniac at January 19, 2013 01:17 AM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 01:18 AM (XDC0v)
273
"Attention, Attention all hands!"
navycopejoe is presently EOOW!
"That is all!"......(eoow,?? send me a signalman.....)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 01:20 AM (4387b)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 01:22 AM (XDC0v)
Yeah, I'm a real romantic, that's me.
And now it's time for me to fade out coz gun show tomorrow. Later roonz and roonettez!!!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 19, 2013 01:23 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: OldDog at January 19, 2013 01:24 AM (tQYJH)
"Let the children come to me and do not hinder them. It is to just such as these that the Kingdom of God belongs."
Mark 10:14
Posted by: Derak at January 19, 2013 01:25 AM (lkjWK)
Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 19, 2013 01:27 AM (jTKU5)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 01:28 AM (qo244)
Where is the NC gun show tomorrow??? Yeah I could google it but I'm drunk and lazy BIRM.....
Posted by: NC Ref at January 19, 2013 01:34 AM (/izg2)
280
You will like this, though I can't link a vid...
8 blade RC copter slung with a "RED EPIC" cam with a 4:1 lense doing some awesome vid through our shop at PANAVISION...out the roll-up doors and a 250ft climb out with a nice Panorama 360 of the west end of the valley. Very stable, almost no shake...the future of wide angle movie shots is here! Down side...a tad bit noisy if your shooting sound. Bout the same if you were using a real heliocopter. Fun none the less......
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 01:35 AM (4387b)
Typical racist Haole comment.....hope you don't have any guns nearby...
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 19, 2013 01:36 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2013 01:38 AM (UPMaB)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 01:38 AM (XDC0v)
Posted by: NC Ref at January 19, 2013 01:34 AM (/izg2)
Raleigh State Fairgrounds.
Fuck it sucks being the DD.
Posted by: Dr. Rheinhardt at January 19, 2013 01:39 AM (sqp6o)
Posted by: lou's a girl at January 19, 2013 01:41 AM (9cjF1)
Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 19, 2013 01:42 AM (jTKU5)
279 that would be the engineering officer of the watch, the guy would keeps the lights on and the ship moving
289 Fuckin' Hawaiians
yep...and those damn micros too
screwing up my island damnit
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 19, 2013 01:42 AM (DOSBn)
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 01:42 AM (sqp6o)
Posted by: kimoloka at January 19, 2013 01:43 AM (VVQM9)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 19, 2013 01:43 AM (DOSBn)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 01:43 AM (4387b)
I am so terribly sorry for your losses. May God comfort and keep you through it. I'm praying for you.
Posted by: Miss Scarlett at January 19, 2013 01:44 AM (HT2Nt)
Posted by: and irresolute at January 19, 2013 01:45 AM (DBH1h)
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 19, 2013 01:46 AM (jfSqj)
Posted by: lou's a girl at January 19, 2013 01:47 AM (9cjF1)
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2013 01:48 AM (UPMaB)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 01:49 AM (XDC0v)
going to watch some John Wayne and forget the BHO shit for an hour or 2
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 19, 2013 01:46 AM (jfSqj)
Think of it this way. We have 126,504,337 seconds left until he os gone.
Well, that didn't help.
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 01:50 AM (sqp6o)
Funny you should say that. In my 10 years in the USAFI met and worked with quite a few Hawiians. I found the women to be very friendly. The men on the other hand were surly motherfuckers. It was odd.
Posted by: puddleglum at January 19, 2013 01:52 AM (8mr48)
buy a better scope>>
Ole is showing off his new rifle scope to Sven. As they walk Ole's property testing the scopes range. Sven says to Ole your wife is in your bedroom having sex with another man. Ole says I want you to shoot her in the head and him in his dick and hands Sven 2 bullets. Sven looks back at Ole and says it'll only take one.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 01:53 AM (qo244)
Posted by: puddleglum at January 19, 2013 01:53 AM (8mr48)
294
You do know I never got to go "Haze Gray and Underway" during the entire of my enlistment.
And I did so love being out on the blue in the fishing boats as a kid....that is why I joined up. Alas....was not to be for me.... all effin shore duty...(SPIT!!)
Carter era,,,,,,the rabbit slayer....hater of the uniform.....IRAN HOSTAGE loser.....yup......if only I could have joined when Reagan took the helm....I bailed just before after my 4......like alot of good sailors.....(SPIT!!)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 01:54 AM (4387b)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 01:55 AM (XDC0v)
going to watch some John Wayne and forget the BHO shit for an hour or 2
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 19, 2013 01:46 AM (jfSqj)
Already doing that.
They Were Expendable.
Donavan's Reef.
McLintock!.
Longest Day (Sortakinda Duke).
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at January 19, 2013 01:56 AM (4hTAq)
Posted by: lou's a girl at January 19, 2013 01:56 AM (9cjF1)
Posted by: puddleglum at January 19, 2013 01:57 AM (8mr48)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 01:57 AM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 01:58 AM (qo244)
Spoken like a true Bears fan.......
*ducks and runs*
....Will try to swing by the fairgrounds tomorrow to buy something that TFG doesn't want me to have....
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 19, 2013 01:58 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 01:59 AM (qo244)
Well, that didn't help.
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 01:50 AM (sqp6o)
Then what? The idiots of this country decide they want to watch Hillary Rodham Concussion shrivel up and die in office?
Land of the FreeShit!!!11!!! Home of the Stupid.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at January 19, 2013 02:00 AM (4hTAq)
Posted by: NC Ref at January 19, 2013 02:00 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2013 02:01 AM (UPMaB)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 02:01 AM (qo244)
WTF is this flamewar about?
Lou? Joe?..........Kinda quick and at the throats.....less I missed something,
or is this old FLAME that I have missed in the past....tell me to STFU if none of my business....
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:03 AM (4387b)
Well, i don't think we'll make it to 266,753,066 of TFG being Preezy.
Posted by: RWC at January 19, 2013 02:11 AM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Jerry at January 19, 2013 02:12 AM (4SKYj)
Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 19, 2013 02:14 AM (jTKU5)
Val-U-Rite rations are now being served in the screening room prior to the showing of "Anami Bullet Boobs 3-D!"
All are welcome.........(bring socks)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:16 AM (4387b)
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2013 02:18 AM (FcR7P)
Dead is thread?
Or is it Fred that is dead?
Barney Rubble says Fred is still clocked in at Slate's quarry and working that Dino-Digger like he owns it.......so, I say the Fred is not dead!
YABBA-YABBA-DOOoooooo!!!!
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:29 AM (4387b)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 01:38 AM (XDC0v)
---
Fleet Farm here still has about the typical number of these in stock, the newer models with side ejection and optic mount. Saw a couple boxes ammo at Walmart once but not the other time I went. Not sure about the ammo at Fleet Farm, I was just taking a quick look.
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 19, 2013 02:30 AM (1FLBb)
shit, sorry lou...I think I missed something important
303 she's good
she's practicing girl's school by Britney fox
we're going to play it at the next open Thursday
she thinks its funny cause she goes to a girls school
the bc rich is almost done with the new paint job...from black to my cab company's logo, should be killer, I have it drying and tomorrow I add the 5 clear coats
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 19, 2013 02:30 AM (DOSBn)
They Were Expendable.
Donavan's Reef.
McLintock!.
Longest Day (Sortakinda Duke).
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at January 19, 2013 01:56 AM (4hTAq)
---
Notably Absent:
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 19, 2013 02:34 AM (1FLBb)
Posted by: Jean at January 19, 2013 02:34 AM (0cUd9)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 02:35 AM (qo244)
329
30/30???? CARBINE????...Yikes! Yes, killed many CHI-COMS back in KOREA....but could have killed ALOT MORE if the rounds were worth a shit!
30/30 should have been 30/06 with the right powder in the brass, but you know the Army, always ready to fuck-up a decent weapons platform...just cause they can.....read AR-10......vs. AR-15....I rest my case.......
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:37 AM (4387b)
Posted by: Secundus at January 18, 2013 10:41 PM (epI4L)
---
Thank you. I'm thinking "Canta? What in the fuck?" At least they didn't call it an Izhmash Glock47.
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 19, 2013 02:38 AM (1FLBb)
329
30/30???? CARBINE????...Yikes! Yes, killed many CHI-COMS back in KOREA....but could have killed ALOT MORE if the rounds were worth a shit!
30/30 should have been 30/06 with the right powder in the brass, but you know the Army, always ready to fuck-up a decent weapons platform...just cause they can.....read AR-10......vs. AR-15....I rest my case.......
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:37 AM (4387b)
---
I believe you're thinking of .30 Carbine. 30-30 is the lever action stuff.
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 19, 2013 02:40 AM (1FLBb)
UN Security Council says it condemns 'in the strongest terms' the 'heinous acts' of Algeria gas plant raid. -itvnews
Put that in your hookah and smoke it, you miscreants.
Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 19, 2013 02:40 AM (jTKU5)
well kids, its dark and I have a large cat staring me down so i'm going to hide under the blanket
sorry again lou
toodles all, good night, don't let the liberals bite
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 19, 2013 02:41 AM (DOSBn)
Wisconsin, Minnesota or Iowa?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 02:35 AM (qo244)
---
Yessir. Love me some Fleet Farm.
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 19, 2013 02:41 AM (1FLBb)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:44 AM (4387b)
What is the pot equivalent of a strongly worded letter?
1 is Ditch weed to whatever they sell now is 10.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 02:44 AM (qo244)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:45 AM (4387b)
Igot sucked into a Next Generation I haven't seen before...or at least one I don't remember.
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2013 02:45 AM (A+1FW)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:44 AM (4387b)
---
No problem. I'd take one in each.
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 19, 2013 02:47 AM (1FLBb)
Professor, I remember your sad news from November and I hope that time has eased your sorrow.
lou's a girl, my brother has taken himself off the liver transplant list so I will know soon enough what it is like to lose a sibling. You cannot live without a working liver.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 19, 2013 02:48 AM (cHZB7)
I nominate
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 19, 2013 02:41 AM (1FLBb)
>>
For President in 2016. they have the answer without an answer down pat.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 02:48 AM (qo244)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2013 02:53 AM (qo244)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:55 AM (4387b)
Quelle fkn surprise.....
http://tinyurl.com/ag454ue
Posted by: NC Ref at January 19, 2013 02:56 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 02:57 AM (4387b)
---
Ha, I wondered whether you were asking specific or just the area. MN here.
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 19, 2013 02:58 AM (1FLBb)
From that fkn Gannett article:
[Nagin] - Enriched his New Orleans-based family granite supply company through dealings with the city.
So my question is...did he profit from making headstones for the folks that died during Katrina? I'm sure the MFM will pursue that question...uh...never.
Posted by: NC Ref at January 19, 2013 03:00 AM (/izg2)
She was less than two pounds at birth and had a defect that left her with an incomplete esophagus. This defect has a rate of about 1 per 250K births, IIRC. Her survival in the first days was nothing short of astonishing and it remained a difficult thing for several years. She had to go through a number of surgeries and one of them to create a functioning esophagus from a section of colon was botched on the first attempt. Kid went through a lot more before she was six than most suffer in their whole lives and while it was rarely discussed openly, we always had to wonder if the extraordinary effort was the right thing for the girl or her parents.
But tonight she was here with her new dog. A 20 year old girl most would take at first glance for a few years younger but entirely normal outside of the husky voice and thinner than average. Crazy for musical theater. A normal kid by most measures.
And really amazing when all is considered. Sometime we win one.
Posted by: epobirs at January 19, 2013 03:02 AM (kcfmt)
Just saying, that we all ponder our end time from time to time.
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 03:04 AM (4387b)
Posted by: DAve at January 19, 2013 03:04 AM (XDC0v)
Any loss that matters is going to reawaken now and then. A memory that goes unaccessed is at risk of being lost entirely and our selves frozen in stasis, never changing with in reflect the changes without. There are some memories we'd just as soon be rid of, there are others that are unpleasant but must be retained if we are to be a creature that can envision a future and make plans for it.
Posted by: epobirs at January 19, 2013 03:11 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Richard at January 19, 2013 03:13 AM (4387b)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 19, 2013 03:39 AM (Vk2pI)
Hang in there and God bless y'all.
Posted by: Snafu at January 19, 2013 05:56 AM (mnruy)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 19, 2013 06:13 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: lou's a girl at January 19, 2013 01:41 AM
You never get over it. You learn how to live with the pain.
My first wife? Helen, of Fire? "Gone, forever, to the Sea...."
My second? Miss Emily? The breath of cool wind who swept in to my life when I wasn't looking?
She slipped away in a missed heartbeat.
I've written tens of thousands of words about loving them & living with them & how I miss them so....
But none tell you the depth of pain & grief & loss.
You learn how to live with the pain. The agony. Still hurts like a Son of a Bitch.
And that is the plain truth.
Posted by: backhoe at January 19, 2013 06:21 AM (ULH4o)
The nutshell synopsis: Wife has Crohn's disease, and is on an immunosuppressant to treat that. Right after new years she gets sick. Go to the ER the first weekend, and within 12 hours she is on a ventilator. Within another 24 (monday am) she is in a medical coma. Within another 60 (wednesday noon) she shows preterm. She is brought out of the coma into sedation the next day. 4 days later they remove the ventilator (last monday). Everything was going okay until Friday morning. Then the hammer fell, smashing our hope.
And Prof, I raise a glass to ya.
Posted by: kerncon - RIP little angels at January 19, 2013 12:00 PM (kaeib)
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