Again: More Guns Stolen From Another Home Listed on Journal-News' Map

Hm. Maybe time for a class-action lawsuit.

Two handguns and two pistol permits were stolen from the New City home of a man whose name and address are listed on the website of a local newspaper as possessing gun permits, police said.

The thieves ransacked the house Wednesday night, breaking into two safes on the home's third floor and stealing a third safe. The guns were in the stolen safe, police said.

Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map.

"The burglary is still under investigation and there are no facts to support this correlation at this time," Clarkstown Sgt. Joanne Fratianni said in a statement. "If the investigation develops further information, it will be released accordingly."

...

"At this early point in the investigation, we believe it is a random crime and the home was not targeted," Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo told News12.

Invoking Goldfinger's rule: The first time is happenstance, the second time is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action.

We'll see about that third time.

Posted by: Ace at 02:30 PM



Comments

1 The president is a scoamf

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (GVxQo)

2 Juan Williams hardest hit.

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (KdKY7)

3 Delo is a fucking liar.

Posted by: maddogg at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (OlN4e)

4 someone will die because of these idiots at Gannett

Posted by: rd at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (zLp5I)

5 "At this early point in the investigation, we believe it is a random
crime and the home was not targeted," Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo
told News12.



Damn straight.

Posted by: OJ Simpson at January 17, 2013 02:32 PM (GQ8sn)

6 The cops really fucking clueless aren't they?

Posted by: EC at January 17, 2013 02:33 PM (GQ8sn)

7
"At this early point in the investigation, we believe it is a random crime..."

If only we could pass new laws to prevent these random crimes from ever happening again...


Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2013 02:33 PM (9Q7Nu)

8 You think if someone is killed by a gun stolen from a house from the Journal-News's map that they could be held liable in any way?

(Also, did that question make sense?)

Posted by: Hal at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (MftY/)

9 I say sue them. This kind of shit is not covered under the BS absence of malice ruling in NYT vs Sullivan.

Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (53z96)

10 I will be a wonderful day when someone on the list greets the criminal with weapon drawn and blows the mf'r away

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (GVxQo)

11 We didn't want the guns stolen! We wanted to merely turn the people into pariahs!

Posted by: The MFM at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (IS2o0)

12 Wonder how the new law will treat the burglars.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (/+Fvm)

13
Will this map lead up to One Eyed Willie's treasure?

Posted by: The Goonies at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (vl5mg)

14 Hey, at least the burglars didn't shoot any dogs.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (VtjlW)

15 "At this early point in the investigation, we believe it is a random crime and the home was not targeted," Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo told News12.

Translation: My job depends on providing cover for the assorted Leftists in the City Council, County, and the State Legislature.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (KDq5l)

16
remember the HAMBURGLAR?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (9Q7Nu)

17 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (/eBe8)

18 and GRIMACE?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (9Q7Nu)

19 Random thieves break into gun safes instead of taking electronics and jewelry?

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 17, 2013 02:35 PM (SUKHu)

20 The cops really fucking clueless aren't they?
Posted by: EC at January 17, 2013 02:33 PM (GQ8sn)


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Nope. They're towing (toeing) the line.

Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (RFrso)

21 Authorities state that, presently, they have no evidence suggesting a relationship between the iceberg and the sunken ship.

Posted by: angler at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (SwjAj)

22 "... Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map...."

Other than the obvious, of course. Really, no cops on Earth are that ignorant, not even mine here in California.

Then again, that might be how I lose all my guns. The ones that fell off the boat on that fishing trip, I mean...

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (n4EDK)

23 14
Will this map lead up to One Eyed Willie's treasure?

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You have to touch him just right to release the treasure.

Posted by: Jimmy Savile at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (e0xKF)

24 Random act. Sure dipshit. All the smart thieves pick a house via "enee, meenie, miney, moe. Yeah, I'm stoopid and I'm buying that load of shit wholesale.

Posted by: maddogg at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (OlN4e)

25 Has anyone asked Neblett about these robberies? I'm sure he'd be shocked to find out innocent people's homes are being burgled because of what the paper did.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (/eBe8)

26 I wonder when the Journal-News will print a map and list of homes receiving state or federal public assistance. Seems like the taxpayers funding those benefits might have a legitimate interest in seeing who's getting them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (QKKT0)

27 8 You think if someone is killed by a gun stolen from a house from the Journal-News's map that they could be held liable in any way?

(Also, did that question make sense?)
Posted by: Hal at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (MftY/)


No, but surely the gun/home-owner will.

Posted by: BuddyPC at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (jfUIE)

28 Just what I've been saying. Now these "legal" weapons are on the streets in the hands of criminals.

Posted by: Obama the Almighty at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (XUKZU)

29 "Ransacked" is really a nice word, isn't it? Very evocative. Paints a picture.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (zgHLA)

30 Nice. Wouldn't be surprised if el investigador received a brief before issuing a statement on el televisor.

At this early point in the comment, I believe it is a random expression and the local politics were not targeted.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (1FLBb)

31 Mayor mccheese

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (GVxQo)

32 Just had a thought...

The people listed by the Journal News should all file police reports saying their guns were stolen.

The police won't hassle them.

Posted by: EC at January 17, 2013 02:37 PM (GQ8sn)

33 "I've only got _____ more days of this shit. Then I can retire before I'm 50 on an 85% Pension."

Posted by: Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo played by Danny Glover at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (KdKY7)

34
Didn't NY state just pass a new law that outlaws publishing people's gun-ownership status?

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (fH4X9)

35 Just wait until the first woman hiding from her abusive ex gets killed for being on that map.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (pUkWs)

36 This shit is going to get someone killed. It's only a matter of time.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (dQw/H)

37 You must remember these statements are not being made by the "cops". They are being made by "spokespersons", ie PR flacks.

Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (53z96)

38 I'M SORRY, BUT, AT PRESENT, I SEE NO EVIDENCE CONNECTING MY JOHNSON AND THAT UNPLEASANTNESS IN YOUR MOUTH.

Posted by: angler at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (SwjAj)

39 The thieves ransacked the house Wednesday night, breaking into two safes on the home's third floor and stealing a third safe. The guns were in the stolen safe, police said.

Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map.


Top men. On. The. Job. Barney Fife unavailable for comment.

Invovking Rick's Rule: I don't believe in coincidences.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (GFM2b)

40 This is simply Fast and Furious all over again - a nifty way to get guns conveniently into the hands of bad guys. Perpetrated by a fourth-estate newspaper instead of a fifth-column government agency.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (n4EDK)

41 36

Cat out of bag already

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (GVxQo)

42 35 "I've only got _____ more days of this shit. Then I can retire before I'm 50 on an 85% Pension."

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In this line of work, we call that "retirony".

Posted by: Chief Clancy Wiggum at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (e0xKF)

43 "No, Mr. Alinsky. I want you to DIE!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (XkWWK)

44 The fourth time it's consensual.

Posted by: Goldfinger at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (yn6XZ)

45 Just wait until the first woman hiding from her abusive ex gets killed for being on that map. Posted by: DangerGirl at January 17, 2013 02:38 PM (pUkWs)

This is the thing about liberalism....every single day all their cherished beliefs conflict with each other.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (sbV1u)

46 Hmm. Then why is a gunshot wound in a Chicago gangbanger related to an AR-15 in my, uh, neighbor's home?

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at January 17, 2013 02:40 PM (w3+gB)

47 >>>"we believe it is a random crime and the home was not targeted"

Riiiiiggggghhhhht
Because your average random break in perp carries the equipment needed to *FORCE A SAFE*.

Let me give you a clue. If they are organized enough to have that kind of gear, (eg being well prepared for the task at hand) they are organized enough to look in the paper for good targets. That's obvious to the casual observer.

F*king a-hole lying ass cop covering for liberal douches doesn't deserve to wear a g-damn uniform.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 02:40 PM (0q2P7)

48 "I've only got _____ more days of this shit. Then I can retire before I'm 50 on an 85% Pension."

Posted by: Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo played by Danny Glover


But first you will blow me. And Lisa Mallozzi

Posted by: Mel Gibson at January 17, 2013 02:40 PM (BrQrN)

49 "The burglary is still under investigation and there are no facts to
support this correlation at this time," Clarkstown Sgt. Joanne Fratianni
said in a statement. "If the investigation develops further
information, it will be released accordingly."

Sounds reasonable to me. While it's certainly probable that the thieves were motivated by the article, it can't be proven unless they confess that fact, or if there is a document or data on a computer hard drive to support that.


Find out who these perps get for lawyers, and then suggest to the lawyers that they gin up a defense that the perps "couldn't help it" because they were overwhelmed by the temptation presented by the published map. Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2013 02:40 PM (673KB)

50 Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map.



*sigh*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:40 PM (UOM48)

51 I say sue them. This kind of shit is not covered under the BS absence of malice ruling in NYT vs Sullivan.

NY v. Sullivan is irrelevant to this situation. The publication wasn't defamatory even if it was harmful.

This would be more of a negligence/"tortious publication of private facts" claim.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2013 02:40 PM (QKKT0)

52
The thieves ransacked the house Wednesday night, breaking into two safes on the home's third floor and stealing a third safe. The guns were in the stolen safe, police said.

Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map.


UUh-huh. Right. So, the thieves are able to break into two safes and loot their contents. They encounter a third safe which they're unable to open. Rather than cutting their losses and beating feet out of there with what they'd already stolen, then instead STEAL THE WHOLE DAMN SAFE.

Yes, that makes sense. Because as we all know, safes are so easy to pick up and carry away. It's almost silly to even use them, they're such easy targets!

And since the other two safes were on the home's third floor, I'm going to take a wild guess and assume THIS safe was also on the third floor. And as well ALL know, getting a safe down three flights of stairs is just easy as pie.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 17, 2013 02:40 PM (4df7R)

53 You must remember these statements are not being made by the "cops". They are being made by "spokespersons", ie PR flacks.

In Texas, pr flacks are also "sworn" occifers. Smaller departments use the chief or sheriff.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2013 02:41 PM (GFM2b)

54 At this early point in the investigation, we believe it is a random crime and the home was not targeted," Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo told News12.

So he can't confirm that it is related to the published map but almost confirms that it is a random act?????

Posted by: Cheri at January 17, 2013 02:41 PM (G+Wff)

55 I wonder when the Journal-News will print a map and list of homes receiving state or federal public assistance. Seems like the taxpayers funding those benefits might have a legitimate interest in seeing who's getting them.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2013 02:36 PM (QKKT0)


And how they're being spent.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 17, 2013 02:41 PM (4df7R)

56 The tide tables are less predictable./

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 17, 2013 02:42 PM (CIjnK)

57 If Det. Lt. Charles Delo isn't busted down to patrolman and walking a beat within a week as a result of that idiotic statement then we can reasonably assume that his bosses all the way up through the city council are in on this game.

And yes, as BCochrain just said - this shit is going to get someone killed. And then King Putt will get to proclaim still more "Executive Actions" while standing on their grave.

It's all going according to plan. < /cloward-piven >

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2013 02:42 PM (A5uiv)

58 47 This is the thing about liberalism....every single day all their cherished beliefs conflict with each other.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:39 PM (sbV1u)



Those in leadership have only one goal, one belief, that they want furthered. CONTROL.

Liberalism is just a convenient vehicle.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:42 PM (dQw/H)

59
At this early point in the investigation, we believe it is a random
crime and the home was not targeted," Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo
told News12.


Why does he think that?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (p/cQy)

60 NY v. Sullivan is irrelevant to this situation. The publication wasn't defamatory even if it was harmful.


Isn't that what I said? It is what usually keeps people from suing newspapers but doesn't apply here.

Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (53z96)

61 Time to start keeping your safes in a room with a Guard Python™. My newest business venture.

*makes note to get a few FL rednecks liquored up and sent into Everglades for a hunt*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (UOM48)

62 Liberalism is just a convenient vehicle. Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:42 PM (dQw/H)

You mean it runs as well as a Chevy Volt?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (sbV1u)

63 In other news a new study claims the sun has nothing to do with it getting lighter out during the daytime hours.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 17, 2013 02:44 PM (CIjnK)

64 43 36 Cat out of bag already

Oh definitely.
But...the fact that the State of NY deemed it necessary to pass a new law, outlawing what the 'Journal News' did...
Means that what they did, put people in danger.

So, I would think that the passage of this 'new law' would help people in suing the 'Journal News' for endangerment.

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 02:44 PM (fH4X9)

65 If Det. Lt. Charles Delo isn't busted down to patrolman and walking a beat within a week as a result of that idiotic statement then we can reasonably assume that his bosses all the way up through the city council are in on this game.

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He better be manning a radar station in Alaska by the end of the day. Mail him his clothes.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 17, 2013 02:44 PM (e0xKF)

66 Time to start keeping your safes in a room with a Guard Python™.

I was thinking a Rescue Panther might be better - but the Python would probably work.

Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2013 02:44 PM (A5uiv)

67 Isn't that what I said? It is what usually keeps people from suing newspapers but doesn't apply here.

I thought your point was that malice could be proved here. My bad.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2013 02:44 PM (QKKT0)

68 Jane: if that Python is manufactured by Colt, then if will definitely protect the safes.

"Safes" or "saves"? I keep forgetting...

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (n4EDK)

69 Just wait until the first woman hiding from her abusive ex gets killed for being on that map.

Something about deserving it, because only bad people own guns. Just wait.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (ZKzrr)

70 *makes note to get a few FL rednecks liquored up and sent into Everglades for a hunt*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (UOM4

We prefer the term "cracker."

Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (DrWcr)

71
I'm just glad those newspaper people who come from the government to help us have armed protection from these crazy people who are going out and stealing all those guns that they were told about by those newspaper people.

Heavens to Betsy, that was close.

Posted by: Rev dr E buzz at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (raGXo)

72 68 Time to start keeping your safes in a room with a Guard Python�.

I was thinking a Rescue Panther might be better - but the Python would probably work.

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What about a Protection Ocelot?

Just remember to get him some toys to play with because it's like Meowschwitz in there.

Posted by: Sterling Mallory Archer at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (e0xKF)

73 You mean it runs as well as a Chevy Volt?

Wet Fisker.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (GFM2b)

74 ... how ... how ... unexpectedly!!!!

Posted by: Adriane... at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (TvO05)

75 >>>"Safes" or "saves"? I keep forgetting...

safes, saves is the plural of the noun save, like in baseball.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 02:46 PM (0q2P7)

76 These people deserve what they got. I hope the police do not help them because they need to support presdent Obama.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 17, 2013 02:46 PM (48wze)

77 72 *makes note to get a few FL rednecks liquored up and sent into Everglades for a hunt*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (UOM4

We prefer the term "cracker."

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Just some good ol' boys, never doin' no harm...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 17, 2013 02:46 PM (e0xKF)

78 Wet Fisker.

Now THERE'S a name for an all-girl band.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:47 PM (sbV1u)

79
Sue the paper, the owner,the Board of Directors, and anyone even tangentally associated with them for everything they have.

Actions, like elections, have consequences. Time for the Journal News to reap what they have sown.Posted by: acethepug at January 17, 2013 02:34 PM (OQhDd)

The paper is part of Gannett. Go after Gannett and all its local papers.

Posted by: rd at January 17, 2013 02:47 PM (zLp5I)

80 Yes a Python would work, a Colt Python. One of the best .357 Magnums ever made.

Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2013 02:47 PM (53z96)

81 64 You mean it runs as well as a Chevy Volt?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (sbV1u)



Lol. You ever see Pelosi or the Pederast in one of those DeathBuckets? Compliance with stated beliefs are for little people. See the USSR.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:47 PM (dQw/H)

82
Wet Fisker.

I saw them open for L7!

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2013 02:48 PM (KdKY7)

83
Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map.


But I'd bet the prosecutor who went after the Reddit guy could make a case.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 17, 2013 02:48 PM (yiIja)

84 The only background check required on me is to see that i am an American. Methinks criminals have paid their debt to society. Let them have guns, too. If they are dangerous to society, then don't let them out.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 17, 2013 02:48 PM (UyeCW)

85 That giant ball of flaming gas in the sky?

That has nothing to do with the warmth of the planet.

Posted by: Liberal, Anti-Gun Activist at January 17, 2013 02:48 PM (vl5mg)

86 One of those “unintended consequences,” of the “limited” magazine laws,
will be to have gun totting persons use more lethal ammunition.


We had the story recently about the woman who defended herself and her
children, pumping 5 shots into an intruder … and he lived. Next time
he won’t.

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter, M.D. at January 17, 2013 02:48 PM (e8kgV)

87 saves is the plural of the noun save, like in baseball.

Or the 3rd Person Singular Present Tense conjugation of the verb "to save."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 17, 2013 02:49 PM (/eBe8)

88 72 *makes note to get a few FL rednecks liquored up and sent into Everglades for a hunt*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM


If you're going to take it that far, just go all out and have them bring you a wild boar instead. I'd gladly face a python over a pissed off boar in an enclosed space.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 17, 2013 02:49 PM (SY2Kh)

89 Quick question regarding the NY ban -

Shotguns are banned if they are semiautomatic and contain a second grip, a fixed magazine that can hold more than seven rounds or the ability to hold a detachable magazine.


The KelTec KSG has two fixed tube magazines - 6+6 +1 in the chamber. Would it be legal?

(Of course it's scary looking so it probably will be deemed illegal if ever challenges.)

Posted by: RWC (save the white kiddies) at January 17, 2013 02:49 PM (fWAjv)

90

NY times v Sullivan only covers defamation cases, and "actual malice" really isn't that high of a standard, it just means you defame someone knowing that what you are saying is false (or just not giving a shit)

This seems more like it could be some sort of invasion of privacy type tort, since there was no lie here to defame these gun owners. But who knows what Connecticut law says. It might not even be actionable. All the people on the list better go talk to a Conn lawyer, that's for sure.

Posted by: imp at January 17, 2013 02:49 PM (UaxA0)

91 Nothing to see here, please disburse.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 17, 2013 02:50 PM (xmcEQ)

92 That giant ball of flaming gas in the sky?



That has nothing to do with the warmth of the planet.


That would be funny except that, somehow, they really do believe that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 17, 2013 02:50 PM (/eBe8)

93 72 *makes note to get a few FL rednecks liquored up and sent into Everglades for a hunt*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:43 PM (UOM4

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We prefer the term "cracker."
Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2013 02:45 PM (DrWcr)



We prefer "patriotic Americans".

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:50 PM (dQw/H)

94 No, Mr. Obama. I expect you to stutter.

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at January 17, 2013 02:50 PM (E9Em3)

95 The cops really fucking clueless aren't they?
Posted by: EC
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Remember, they are liberal cops. They won't admit the truth either.

Posted by: Hard Right at January 17, 2013 02:50 PM (+aCe4)

96 Does anyone actually read the GD comments any more?


Yeah, I know this is AOS but damn.

Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (53z96)

97
We had the story recently about the woman who defended herself and her
children, pumping 5 shots into an intruder � and he lived. Next time
he won�t.

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89 saves is the plural of the noun save, like in baseball.

Or the 3rd Person Singular Present Tense conjugation of the verb "to save."

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To twist the old saying, "A clip full of 9(MM)s saves five."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (e0xKF)

98
If you're going to take it that far, just go all out and have them bring you a wild boar instead. I'd gladly face a python over a pissed off boar in an enclosed space.

+1

Posted by: Zombie Robert Baratheon at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (KdKY7)

99 And yes, as BCochrain just said - this shit is going to get someone killed. And then King Putt will get to proclaim still more "Executive Actions" while standing on their grave.It's all going according to plan. < /cloward-piven >
Posted by: DocJ at January 17, 2013 02:42 PM (A5uiv)


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Yup. The SCOAMT regime is huddled in their offices.....waiting....waiting.

Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (RFrso)

100 We prefer "patriotic Americans". Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:50 PM (dQw/H)

Were you originally from Florida?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (sbV1u)

101 Oops. KSG has an evil telescoping stock. So yeah, illegal.

Posted by: RWC (save the white kiddies) at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (fWAjv)

102 My late FL grandpa called himself a "cracker" or "redneck" interchangeably. He wore the terms with pride.

Anyhow, I think Pythons, Inc. has possibilities.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (UOM48)

103 liberals still believe that crime goes up after gun control in spite of the gun control.

Posted by: mallfly at January 17, 2013 02:52 PM (bJm7W)

104 Were other houses in the immediate vicinity robbed? If not, are there signs that any of the other homes nearby may have been considered by the theives? Toolmarks on the windows or doors, footprints, fingerprints on the windowpanes? If none of that is applicable, then what would make you believe that this particular house WASN'T targeted? And if that WAS the case, then wouldn't you feel it necessary to warn the neighbors about the potential that these thieves might return to finish their business?

I don't know about anyone else, but if I were living in an affluent neighborhood and had sufficient valuable belongings to warrant THREE safes, I'm going to also make sure I have a good security system and deadbolts on all the doors. It's not going to be a cakewalk for any burglar who tries to break into MY house. And if this homeowner is at all like me, then the thieves would ahve had some difficulty getting in and out of the home. In that situation they'd either find an easier target or plow ahead despite the difficulty. I'm not a crook, but I'm going to assume that in the instances where the thieves would continue despite the difficulty, it's because they're looking for something specific. Like, say, a couple of legally licensed guns that are sitting there, ripe for the picking.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 17, 2013 02:52 PM (4df7R)

105
Mayor mccheese

She's on the Supreme Court, now.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 17, 2013 02:52 PM (9Q7Nu)

106 Does Touré have an alibi?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2013 02:52 PM (ORGYc)

107 >>>We had the story recently about the woman who defended herself and her

children, pumping 5 shots into an intruder … and he lived. Next time

he won’t.

Next time he won't get hit with FMJ, it'll be Nosler Partition for pistol with a 65% weight retention fragmenting mushrooming ball of death. He'll bleed out before the 911 operator will be able to pick up the line.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 02:52 PM (0q2P7)

108 We issue the following statement:



http://tinyurl.com/2a2aqbh

Posted by: Journal News Editors at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (wR+pz)

109
>>>I think Pythons, Inc. has possibilities.

Isn't that Hulk Hogan's Production co.?

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (KdKY7)

110 My gun safe weighs several hundred pound EMPTY. When we moved we had to make special arrangements, expensive arrangements.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wilde Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (rbL3r)

111
"The newspaper has not responded to numerous calls for comment."

Well, I'll be. that's the durndest thing raht there. Juss cain't buhleev they would be lak at!

My goodness me, I juss cain't figger it aht.

Normally these newspaper people like to talk all over the place, but golly, right nah, they don't wanna no talk ta any bodah.

It juss is a surprise.

Oh well!

Posted by: Rev dr E buzz at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (raGXo)

112 Curious to see what Piers has to say about this

Posted by: Heh at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (bKX6s)

113 Yup. The SCOAMT regime is huddled in their offices.....waiting....waiting.

And while they're hoping that the person who dies is the (white) home-owner, they'll accept the black perpetrator who looks like he could be TFG's son.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (/eBe8)

114 How did the perps escape without getting shot? Were ALL the guns in the safe?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (ROv35)

115 My late FL grandpa called himself a "cracker" or "redneck" interchangeably. He wore the terms with pride.Anyhow, I think Pythons, Inc. has possibilities.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (UOM4

Fair enough. And I love the python idea!

Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2013 02:54 PM (DrWcr)

116 Unfortunately, from my brief review of NY state law, New York doesn't recognize the privacy tort of "public disclosure of private facts" -- and even in states that do recognize that tort, publication of information from official public records generally doesn't qualify. So a lawsuit is unlikely to get far.

Posted by: Alex at January 17, 2013 02:54 PM (/yzYn)

117 How did the perps escape without getting shot? Were ALL the guns in the safe?

Homeowner wasn't home.

As I was saying yesterday, eventually you have to go to the dentist or a funeral or to the range.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 17, 2013 02:54 PM (ZKzrr)

118 We prefer "patriotic Americans".
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:50 PM (dQw/H)

I didn't know you were from Florida.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2013 02:54 PM (DrWcr)

119
Or the 3rd Person Singular Present Tense conjugation of the verb "to save."

I was told there would be no 3rd Person Singular Present Tense conjugation on this blog.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 17, 2013 02:55 PM (yiIja)

120 Does Touré have an alibi?

AoSHQ Style Guide violation.

His name is now "Neblett" or "Douche Nozzle."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 17, 2013 02:55 PM (/eBe8)

121 102 We prefer "patriotic Americans". Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:50 PM (dQw/H)

--------

Were you originally from Florida?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:51 PM (sbV1u)



Yup. Born and raised in Jacksonville. College in St Augustine. Moved to MD right after college. Now living north of JAX and working in town.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (dQw/H)

122 >>>How did the perps escape without getting shot? Were ALL the guns in the safe?

Thieves who target houses known to contain guns don't come when you're home.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (0q2P7)

123 The thieves took the permits? Are those like hall passes, not connected to a person?

I'ma gonna to read the linked article now. The summary is odd.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (9eDDd)

124 Next time he won't get hit with FMJ, it'll be Nosler Partition for pistol with a 65% weight retention fragmenting mushrooming ball of death. He'll bleed out before the 911 operator will be able to pick up the line.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 02:52 PM (0q2P7)

Thats what always amazes me - the calls for the ban of "armor piercing" ammunition. Please, if I must be shot, let it be with armor piercing ammo. That means its likely to be FMJ with a steel core and hopefully will go strait through without expanding or fragmenting.
Its the non-armor piercing stuff thats nasty.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (t06LC)

125 Curious to see what Piers has to say about this


Posted by: Heh at January 17, 2013 02:53 PM (bKX6s)



Something along the lines of if the people didn't have guns, they wouldn't have wound up on that list that may or may not have been used as a target finder.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (xmcEQ)

126 I was told there would be no 3rd Person Singular Present Tense conjugation on this blog.

Must have been before my time.

Which, I'm just realizing, is now going on about 4 years. If the SCOAMT did anything positive, it was driving me here.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (/eBe8)

127
2514
Will this map lead up to One Eyed Willie's treasure?

---

You have to touch him just right to release the treasure.


And if you kids are good, I can show you how to find my family jewels.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 17, 2013 02:57 PM (5iuEW)

128 Yup. Born and raised in Jacksonville. College in St Augustine. Moved to MD right after college. Now living north of JAX and working in town.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (dQw/H)

Always nice to meet another native Floridian! We're few and far between, these days.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2013 02:57 PM (DrWcr)

129 Yup. Born and raised in Jacksonville. College in St Augustine. Moved to MD right after college. Now living north of JAX and working in town. Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 02:56 PM (dQw/H)

I think I could handle JAX. But much further south I'd be a grease spot for 10 months of the year.

I HATE tropical.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:57 PM (sbV1u)

130 Personally, I want my Home Surveillance Siafu. Sure, I'd have to buy about 100k of them, but a sea of inch-long mullet ants has a reasonable deterrent factor.

Posted by: Professor Marius Von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at January 17, 2013 02:57 PM (LEiGw)

131
The guy should have hired private security like those newspaper yackety-yaks did.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 17, 2013 02:58 PM (p/cQy)

132 Its the non-armor piercing stuff thats nasty.

----------------
A concept lost on libtards.

Posted by: gigg at January 17, 2013 02:58 PM (41VCE)

133 Always nice to meet another native Floridian! We're few and far between, these days.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2013 02:57 PM (DrWcr)



Native here, as well. Small town west of Tallahassee, just south of the GA state line.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:58 PM (UOM48)

134 I don't like the idea that the police department seems bent on kepping a pool of unarmed victims available for the predations of the criminal class.

-- David Mohler, 1989, on being denied a carry permit in NYC

Posted by: Whatev at January 17, 2013 02:58 PM (lreFA)

135 Anyone who owns a gun is gonna have to install a moat...

...filled with sharks...

...with lasers on their heads...

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 17, 2013 02:58 PM (CIjnK)

136 Its the non-armor piercing stuff thats nasty. A concept lost on libtards Posted by: gigg at January 17, 2013 02:58 PM (41VCE)

The Womyn's Studies Department didn't require any course in physics.

Or math.

Or logic.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 17, 2013 02:59 PM (sbV1u)

137 The thieves took the permits? Are those like hall passes, not connected to a person?

Identity theft: it ain't just about credit cards anymore.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 17, 2013 02:59 PM (4df7R)

138 137 Anyone who owns a gun is gonna have to install a moat...

...filled with sharks...

...with lasers on their heads...

---

The EPA fucked us. The best we can do is ill-tempered mutant sea bass.

Posted by: Number Two at January 17, 2013 02:59 PM (e0xKF)

139 Will this map lead up to One Eyed Willie's treasure?

---

You have to touch him just right to release the treasure.

Posted by: Jimmy Savile


I laughed until I pooted.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 17, 2013 02:59 PM (evdj2)

140 Great. We've gone from 75° here to cold and windy with sideways rain.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 03:00 PM (UOM48)

141 new one

Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2013 03:00 PM (53z96)

142 The guy should have hired private security like those newspaper yackety-yaks did.



Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 17, 2013 02:58 PM (p/cQy)


Everyone just needs their own personal Kato. And no....not Kalen.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 17, 2013 03:01 PM (xmcEQ)

143 #121 We will be diagramming sentences and doing verb declensions all afternoon. Please have a sufficient amount of college ruled paper available along with your AoS Style Guide.

A juicebox or two full of bourbon is advised for your backpack.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wilde Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 03:01 PM (rbL3r)

144 The EPA fucked us. The best we can do is ill-tempered mutant sea bass. Posted by: Number Two at January 17, 2013 02:59 PM (e0xKF)

You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have?

Posted by: Dr. Evil at January 17, 2013 03:01 PM (sbV1u)

145 Always nice to meet another native Floridian! We're few and far between, these days.


There's a few of us floating around here at AoS. NDH, JohnE, I believe Burn the Witch and maybe one or two I'm forgetting are all NEFl Morons.



Bannion, funny enough, I hate the heat. From a weather perspective, I loved living in MD.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 17, 2013 03:01 PM (dQw/H)

146 You know, this talk of how the non-armor piercing rounds are better for home defense than AP might be ill-advised.

Frankly, I don't mind if they take AP rounds from me. If someone is suitably armored up that I need AP rounds, my goose is probably cooked anyway. The best I can hope for is to let my family escape without (physical) harm.

On the other hand, if they realize that "normal" rounds are far more deadly against unarmored assailants (that is: most of them) than AP, they might try to take those off the shelves instead.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 17, 2013 03:02 PM (/eBe8)

147 Just wait until these guns are used in a home invasion robbery of a house NOT listed in the paper, in the same neighborhood. Libbies STILL won't get it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 03:02 PM (0q2P7)

148 I was told there'd be no conjugating here.

Posted by: Mama AJ on Fire at January 17, 2013 03:02 PM (SUKHu)

149 It's rather bizarre having mfm and police seem to do the will of the political apparatus in power .

Posted by: ette at January 17, 2013 03:02 PM (nqBYe)

150 Great. We've gone from 75° here to cold and windy with sideways rain.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 03:00 PM (UOM4

It was supposed to make it 75° here but it topped out at 67°just before noon and has been dropping ever since.

If I didn't know better I would say it was going to snow tonight.

Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2013 03:02 PM (53z96)

151 It's so cold here, I saw aDemocrat with their hands in their own pockets...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 17, 2013 03:03 PM (jsWA8)

152 Native here, as well. Small town west of Tallahassee, just south of the GA state line.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2013 02:58 PM (UOM4

I'm in Central Florida myself.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2013 03:03 PM (DrWcr)

153 If I lived in that area - well, let's just say it is a prime time to have a boating accid...err, 'someone' stole my guns.

Honest officer. I don't have any firearms anymore. Dang it.

Posted by: RWC (save the white kiddies) at January 17, 2013 03:03 PM (fWAjv)

154 #141...Style guide correction...I laughed until I ROKERED.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wilde Wrepublican Wench at January 17, 2013 03:03 PM (rbL3r)

155 I was told there'd be no conjugating here.

Oh, there's conjugatin' alright.

Posted by: Prisoner 3756634 at January 17, 2013 03:03 PM (evdj2)

156 I was told there'd be no conjugating here. Oh, there's conjugatin' alright.
Posted by: Prisoner 3756634 at January 17, 2013 03:03 PM (evdj2)

You ain't going to conjugatin' visit prison, you're going to federal PMITA prison.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 17, 2013 03:04 PM (DrWcr)

157 I read the article...

It doesn't mention anything else being stolen...just the guns.

And since the police seem concerned with passing this off as a "random crime"...you'd think they would've mentioned it, if something else had been stolen.

So the fact that the home was "ransacked", and only firearms were taken...it's not a stretch to conclude that the robbers were looking for guns, only.

Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2013 03:04 PM (fH4X9)

158 If they didn't own any guns, they wouldn't have been stolen.

Posted by: Piers Morgan at January 17, 2013 03:04 PM (/izg2)

159 Have I mentioned lately, MFM delenda est?
.
Because the entire point of the list was to make gun owners targets.
.
Not even knuckle-dragging journalists believe that heavily-checked permit holders are a real crime problem.
.
Bet real money some lefty will claim this burglary they aided and abetted proves civilian gun ownership leads to more guns in criminal hands.
.
In the vein of "look what you made me do to you for your own good."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 17, 2013 03:04 PM (YZizW)

160
If I didn't know better I would say it was going to snow tonight.

It's getting chilly down here (below 70, time to set something on fire). The palm trees are really, really swaying.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 17, 2013 03:05 PM (yiIja)

161 Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 02:46 PM (0q2P7)

Hmm, that doesn't sound right, in baseball, you are safe or out.

The rest of your comment was ok tho.

Posted by: KG at January 17, 2013 03:05 PM (p7BzH)

162 >>>they might try to take those off the shelves instead.

That's a high hill to climb, since forcing hunters to use AP rounds amounts to animal torture, you'd lose all the "I hunt but don't use an assault rifle" crowd in the smack dab middle.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 03:05 PM (0q2P7)

163 At least I think, is it really "save" in baseball? Thought umpires say "safe". Meh, I can't hear too good so maybe I got that mixed up, heh.

Posted by: KG at January 17, 2013 03:06 PM (p7BzH)

164 >>>Hmm, that doesn't sound right, in baseball, you are safe or out.



>>>The rest of your comment was ok tho.

So in baseball. If a pitcher enters play during the 9th inning with the lead and the tying run on base, at bat, or on deck, and gets the outs to win the game what do they call that in baseball? Seems like a critical stat for game closers.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 03:08 PM (0q2P7)

165 Ette, it's not bizarre, it's the historical norm. This is what they meam when they object to "American exceptionalism," they wish for the power "leaders" have in other systems, to control or destroy all the rebellious proles.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 17, 2013 03:08 PM (YZizW)

166 165 At least I think, is it really "save" in baseball? Thought umpires say "safe". Meh, I can't hear too good so maybe I got that mixed up, heh.

---

"Save" is what a relief pitcher gets for performing certain duties that lets his team retain a win.

Posted by: Dennis Eckersley at January 17, 2013 03:08 PM (e0xKF)

167
"Why yes, that is my ejaculate. As anyone who knows me can attest, I ejaculate all the time. However Miss, I assure you that the fact that I just happened to ejaculate this time while my dick was in your mouth was a totally random coincidence."

"And quite frankly, I'm hurt that you would think I had anything to do with it."

"When you told me you were liberal, I thought you were above assigning cause and effect conclusions to innocent random incidents. I guess I was wrong to attribute so much compassion on your part."

"I think you should go home now".

Posted by: jwest at January 17, 2013 03:09 PM (ZDsRL)

168 Almost all hunting rifle rounds will penetrate body armor. They've tried that trick before.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 17, 2013 03:11 PM (YZizW)

169 Winter Storm Who?

Just another 72F day here in Coral Gables...lol I think it might have rained earlier. As of yesterday, we were on track to break the longest consecutive streak of 80F days in January iirc (16?), but idk about making it up that high today.

...and I'm not sure we've ever had a 3-digit temperature measured/ in Farenheit.

Posted by: akula51 at January 17, 2013 03:12 PM (YesJa)

170 >>>Almost all hunting rifle rounds will penetrate body armor. They've tried that trick before.

That's because almost all hunting rifle rounds make the .223 look like a joke.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 03:13 PM (0q2P7)

171 There should be a stat for Left Leading, so the starter can still get credit when the reliever blows the game, rather then just a No-Decision.

Posted by: toby928© denouces himself so you don't have to at January 17, 2013 03:14 PM (evdj2)

172 Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 17, 2013 03:08 PM (0q2P7)

Ah sorry, was thinking about the other kind of "save"... carry on folks, disturbance over.

Posted by: KG at January 17, 2013 03:14 PM (p7BzH)

173 NY Approved Firearm

You can shoot at perps in front and innocents in back of you.

http://tinyurl.com/b3mh6j5

The Biggun 5x1

F.A.I.L.

Posted by: RWC (save the white kiddies) at January 17, 2013 03:15 PM (fWAjv)

174 What I really hate is when the reliever blows the starter's win, and then the team comes back and the reliever gets the win.

That's ridiculous.

Posted by: toby928© denouces himself so you don't have to at January 17, 2013 03:16 PM (evdj2)

175 Great. We've gone from 75° here to cold and windy with sideways rain.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
-----------
We went from 40 degrees to 72.
I do love AZ.

Posted by: Hard Right at January 17, 2013 03:23 PM (+aCe4)

176 Wouldn't freedom of press mean a class action suit would go nowhere?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2013 03:38 PM (gALTb)

177 178
Wouldn't freedom of press mean a class action suit would go nowhere?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Since when does the press get a pass on libel, for instance? There is a difference between this information being available to a person (burglar) who painstakingly wants to go through the rigamarole of getting it and a 3rd party compiling it and making it freely and easily available. Remember, a private suit against the press is not a government restriction on the press.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 17, 2013 03:52 PM (dZ756)

178 I am not saying that a class action suit SHOULD go nowhere, only that I don't think it will.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2013 04:00 PM (gALTb)

179 "Maybe time for a class-action lawsuit."

If an innocent person gets shot and killed by a criminal using one of these stolen weapons, and the perp confesses that he used the _Journal-News_ map to find where to steal the weapon, you can kiss the J-N and its parent Gannett goodbye. Bankrupted by civil litigation. The wrongful death tort case will be as easy as falling off a log.


Posted by: torquewrench at January 17, 2013 04:02 PM (gqT4g)

180 I think everyone on the whole list should report their guns stolen.

Posted by: navybrat at January 17, 2013 04:03 PM (ETzxk)

181 And the Left always wonders how criminals get guns... gee, I wonder? Although I wonder if this isn't a sort of under-the-radar confiscation scheme.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 17, 2013 04:24 PM (KL49F)

182 Cop is right not to make a potentially tortuous admission that they know exactly why this happened. But he knows exactly why this happened.

And we don't have a Gloria Allred on our side, so it's unlikely we will see a lawsuit without first seeing a criminal conviction.

Posted by: Truman North at January 17, 2013 04:34 PM (I2LwF)

183 god, how hard is it for those idiots at the journal news to realize that we don't advertise our gun ownership to the entire fucking planet...

i own a ton of firearms, no one robs me because i have opsec, i.e. no one knows about them...

the second you start bragging about something you own that is valuable, whether it is a gun, gold coins, cash, jewelry or whatever, someone who wants to steal them is going to hear about it...

thanks for destroying the opsec of thousands of law abiding NY citizens..

idiots...

Posted by: gunowner at January 17, 2013 05:29 PM (mI6e/)






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