Media Accuses Entire Town of Steubenville, Ohio, of... Something, Maybe Ignoring a Rape, Because the Perpetrators Were Popular and Part of an Important Local Enterprise, Much Like David Gregory

Stuebenville's being "Otherized."

They're different from the media types in New York (or, rather, the media types in New York assume they are different, because they are not within 50 miles of them). Ergo, they can spin wild fantasies about them; they are The Other, The Foreign, The Alien, The Strange, The Strangers.

Ignorant, provincially-minded, and psychologically weak people are frequently fertile breeding grounds for all sorts of panicky rumors about Strangers on the Road.

Meanwhile there's some other football story going around -- star Notre Dame linebacker Burt Mantis -- that's not his name, but that would be a cool name for a linebacker, I think -- anyway, star Notre Dame linebacker Manti T'eo was either the victim of a long, involved hoax of a man posing online as a woman, or an active participant in creating this fictitious woman who then did not die of leukemia and therefore did not inspire Manti.

Warning: This story is more convoluted than it is actually interesting. Deadspin's story is a tick-tock of its detective work, none of which I care about, because I don't really think the story merits it.

Conclusion: This "woman" on Twitter did not exist. (Shockingly enough!) It is either a hoax with a victim or a prank or a hoax to gin up some publicity and money (though how the latter would work, I have no idea -- and why would a top NFL prospect need the incredibly small duckets that might flow from a Twitter personalty account?)

I rate it as two "Meh's" and a half a "Hmmm..."

Great Point... by David French, via Instapundit, on the David Gregory thing:

“Of course prosecuting Mr. Gregory would have been sad and — on many levels — absurd, but so is the law under which he would have been prosecuted. In fact, if absurdity were a defense to prosecutions or other adverse legal actions, an enormous swathe of our regulatory state would be swept away. Can we even speak of the rule of law as a meaningful concept when we combine an explosive regulatory state with near-absolute prosecutorial discretion?”

Exactly. Make nearly everything illegal -- so many things you could not plausibly prosecute even a third of it -- and then leave the decision to prosecute in the hands of the state prosecutor, who will decide whether or not to prosecute you based on your status as a Person Favored by the State or a Person Disfavored by the State.

And thus ends the rule of law. RIP.


Posted by: Ace at 05:50 PM



Comments

1 Stompy stompy

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 16, 2013 05:31 PM (GrtrJ)

2 Ergo, they can spin wild fantasies about them; they are The Other, The Foreign, The Alien, The Strange, The Strangers.

Iowahawk: Heart of Redness.
http://is.gd/01KI8M

(I'm still pissed I clicked on >> and there was nothing. You owe us 33 more pages! Sell it as an e-book, we'll buy it.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 16, 2013 05:33 PM (ZKzrr)

3 Hi capacity activism

Posted by: ShoutIng 'Ice Ice Baby' in a crowded theater at January 16, 2013 05:36 PM (I88Jc)

4 Did someone say "ěmaginary girlfriend"?

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Posted by: palin steele at January 16, 2013 05:54 PM (StDOM)

5 The mullet still waves proudly in the Steubenville winds.

That and parachute pants. (different winds though)

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 16, 2013 05:54 PM (nzBo6)

6 Conclusion: This "woman" on Twitter did not exist. (Shockingly enough!) It is either a hoax with a victim or a prank or a hoax to gin up some publicity and money (though how the latter would work, I have no idea -- and why would a top NFL prospect need the incredibly small duckets that might flow from a Twitter personalty account?)

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Considering that Te'o was horribly overrated on the field, as shown by Alabama in the title game, the main thing going for him in an awards sense this year was the "overcame the double tragedy of a dead grandmother and dead girlfriend" story that ESPN ran hard with.

Deadspin breaking this story and having it confirmed by Notre Dame is like The Enquirer catching John Edwards with Rielle Hunter in a hotel room... It's something that the traditional media could easily have done if they weren't so fucking lazy as "gatekeepers".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 16, 2013 05:54 PM (e0xKF)

7 I smell a Duke lacrosse lynching coming up.

Anyway, Steubenville will have a warm place in my heart as it was the hometown of the great George "the Animal" Steele, of turnbuckle-eating fame.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 05:54 PM (XkWWK)

8 There's been a couple three links to Deadspin.com lately, which isa Gawker-affiliated site. Just saying; don't know whether there should be a policy on that.

Posted by: Bud Norton at January 16, 2013 05:54 PM (6cOMd)

9 4 Did someone say "ěmaginary girlfriend"?

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There are a lot of Twitter jokes about this going around right now.

The best two I've heard are "Those weren't missed tackles in the title game, that was Te'o hugging his girlfriend" and "Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland is going to ask Te'o if his fake girlfriend is a whore."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 16, 2013 05:55 PM (e0xKF)

10
Ignorant, provincially-minded, and psychologically weak people are frequently...

...stupid enough to vote for a Marxist for presidizzle.

Twice.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 05:56 PM (yiIja)

11 I believe Alabama killed Manti's girlfriend. And took his lunch money.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 16, 2013 05:56 PM (Rq+Vo)

12 Does his girlfriend taste like Honeynut Cheerios?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 05:56 PM (XkWWK)

13 The Stuenbenville story is disturbing. Just because it involves high school boys and girls who either did something terribly wrong or almost as bad, stood by and let it happen. It sickens me. Maybe that is because I have 2 daughters.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 05:57 PM (jE38p)

14 Steubenville? Was Dean Martin in the area?

Posted by: Doc at January 16, 2013 05:57 PM (oUDps)

15 14 Steubenville? Was Dean Martin in the area?
Posted by: Doc at January 16, 2013 05:57 PM (oUDps)


I believe that was Mr. Crocetti's hometown.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 05:57 PM (XkWWK)

16 Beyblades are more interesting, IMHO.

Posted by: eureka! at January 16, 2013 05:57 PM (HPRku)

17 Considering that Te'o was horribly overrated on the field, as shown by Alabama in the title game, the main thing going for him in an awards sense this year was the "overcame the double tragedy of a dead grandmother and dead girlfriend" story that ESPN ran hard with.

Deadspin breaking this story and having it confirmed by Notre Dame is like The Enquirer catching John Edwards with Rielle Hunter in a hotel room... It's something that the traditional media could easily have done if they weren't so fucking lazy as "gatekeepers".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 16, 2013 05:54 PM (e0xKF)

--What's crazy is that just losing his grandmother alone should have been tragic enough (I take Samoans to have tight families). Piling it on with such an absurd fantasy is just weird. It'll be interesting to see if it affects his draft position at all.

Posted by: logprof at January 16, 2013 05:57 PM (StDOM)

18 12 Does his girlfriend taste like Honeynut Cheerios?

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Damn straight she does!

Posted by: Kevin Garnett at January 16, 2013 05:58 PM (e0xKF)

19 7 I smell a Duke lacrosse lynching coming up.

Anyway, Steubenville will have a warm place in my heart as it was the hometown of the great George "the Animal" Steele, of turnbuckle-eating fame.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 05:54 PM (XkWWK)

--It's also Dean Martin's home town.

Posted by: logprof at January 16, 2013 05:58 PM (StDOM)

20 Red hearts, green clovers, blue diamonds, pink va-jay-jays...

Frosted Lucky Charms, they're magically delicious!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 05:59 PM (XkWWK)

21 That footall story is interesting b/c it gives some ppl more reasons to hate Catholics and Mormons ... as if they needed them.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 16, 2013 05:59 PM (5H6zj)

22
The Dayton Daily News questions whether social media is crossing a line , as it intrudes into Steubenville residents' lives:
Anonymous bloggers and online juries have tried and convicted, it seems, half the citizens of Steubenville.


I wonder where bloggers got their information from..

curious isn't it?

Dayton News, you know what might be something good to come out of this?
media has to check their information for TRuth . and get zapped with a zapper when they lie to make news or for further a specific ideology .

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 05:59 PM (nqBYe)

23
As the sidebar accurately says, the only real part of that ND story is the asswhoopin' my Tide put on them. I told the chekout kid at the grocery store last night (who was nice enough to comment on the game, since I was wearing my houndstooth cap) that I almost felt sorry for ND.

Almost.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 06:00 PM (yiIja)

24 In the case of Gregory, a hung jury, or better, a series of hung juries, demonstrates the same
point, but with the Kafkaesque but karmically appropriate wrinkle that
Gregory is re-subjected to trial again and again.

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter, M.D. at January 16, 2013 06:00 PM (e8kgV)

25 It'll be interesting to see if it affects his draft position at all.

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It depends on whether there is any substance to him or if his performance on the field is all smoke and mirrors.

A linebacker who records no sacks in a season probably shouldn't be up for the Heisman, even if he inexplicably has 8 INTs.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 16, 2013 06:00 PM (e0xKF)

26 21 Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 16, 2013 05:59 PM (5H6zj)


And football itself. Obviously violent brain injuries caused by a violent game that must be banned.

For the children.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 06:00 PM (XkWWK)

27 The Dayton Daily News questions whether social media is crossing a line , as it intrudes into Steubenville residents' lives:
Anonymous bloggers and online juries have tried and convicted, it seems, half the citizens of Steubenville.


I wonder where bloggers got their information from..


Because the kids involved in this posted pictures ( many since removed ) on Social Media sites like Facebook and spoke in detail about what happened that night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:01 PM (jE38p)

28 I have not read the Steubenville story yet, but is it reminiscent of The River's Edge? (Great movie, by the way.)

Posted by: logprof at January 16, 2013 06:01 PM (StDOM)

29 ESPN has no mention of the Te'o story which isn't surprising since I'm sure they're trying to verify then steal the story, plus they were totally invested in him winning the Heisman, especially Skip Bayless, who I believe is mentally challenged.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 16, 2013 06:02 PM (Rq+Vo)

30 "...who will decide whether or not to prosecute you based on your status as a Person Favored by the State or a Person Disfavored by the State."

This is how a government bureaucracy works to enforce compliance in its workers so they don't ask questions or talk bad about the head dude. I used to say, now we know how to behave if the commies ever take over.


Posted by: PJ at January 16, 2013 06:02 PM (ZWaLo)

31 29 ESPN has no mention of the Te'o story which isn't surprising since I'm sure they're trying to verify then steal the story, plus they were totally invested in him winning the Heisman, especially Skip Bayless, who I believe is mentally challenged.

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They mentioned it on Pardon The Interruption.

I think it's a case of "Oh, fuck, we got caught flat-footed. How do we spin this one?"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 16, 2013 06:02 PM (e0xKF)

32 Nevergiveup. time will tell. But it would be nice if we could actually Trust media sources/ and at this point law/police/ DA's etc.. in itself.

I will never get over how zimmerman's case was set up andfinding truth was difficult.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:03 PM (nqBYe)

33 Rule of Law? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 16, 2013 06:04 PM (jucos)

34 We denounce the perverted villains in this evil town!

Posted by: House GOP at January 16, 2013 06:04 PM (8pltn)

35 O/T but I am amused. There's a couple inches of snow expected by me tomorrow. It's Snowpacalypse! While it is true that we don't get a lot of snow, we do get some so this isn't that unusual. 1-3 inches doesn't really seem to require omfg don't drive and if you go out take a blanket and a cell phone and let someone know where you're going!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 16, 2013 06:04 PM (Gk3SS)

36 A linebacker who records no sacks in a season probably shouldn't be up for the Heisman, even if he inexplicably has 8 INTs.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 16, 2013 06:00 PM (e0xKF)

--Sounds like he should move to SS in the NFL. Davis for the Panthers did that IIRC.

Posted by: logprof at January 16, 2013 06:04 PM (StDOM)

37 >>They mentioned it on Pardon The Interruption.


Their website has nothing.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 16, 2013 06:04 PM (Rq+Vo)

38 29 ESPN has no mention of the Te'o story which isn't surprising since I'm sure they're trying to verify then steal the story, plus they were totally invested in him winning the Heisman, especially Skip Bayless, who I believe is mentally challenged.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 16, 2013 06:02 PM (Rq+Vo)

--It was actually the lead item on PTI.

Posted by: logprof at January 16, 2013 06:04 PM (StDOM)

39 Because the kids involved in this posted pictures (
many since removed ) on Social Media sites like Facebook and spoke in
detail about what happened that night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:01 PM (jE38p)

thank you for that inforamtion , so they were involved and the girl left unprotected

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:05 PM (nqBYe)

40 I have been following that Steubenville story for a while now and yes it is very disturbing. Evdently this 16 yo girl was passed out drunk. They loaded her up in a car, did her in the car and took her to one party after another where she was repeatedly raped.


But as all stupids do, they video taped it and passed it around. So no, it is not a Duke case, they have outed themselves. Now there are death threats against witnesses and even against the police. The "football program" must go on.


If convicted they face some max serious shit. Not only rape of an underage girl, but also child pornography. Also, if they catch the people making the death threats to witnesses and the police they are going to get some serious attention too.


And from all this what I learn is "yoots" of today are becoming savages.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 06:05 PM (53z96)

41 35
O/T but I am amused. There's a couple inches of snow expected by me
tomorrow. It's Snowpacalypse! While it is true that we don't get a lot
of snow, we do get some so this isn't that unusual. 1-3 inches doesn't
really seem to require omfg don't drive and if you go out take a blanket
and a cell phone and let someone know where you're going!


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 16, 2013 06:04 PM (Gk3SS



Hit the store and grab all the bread and milk off the shelves you can!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2013 06:05 PM (UOM48)

42 Nevergiveup. time will tell. But it would be nice if we could actually Trust media sources/ and at this point law/police/ DA's etc.. in itself.

I will never get over how zimmerman's case was set up andfinding truth was difficult.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:03 PM (nqBYe)


All I am saying is that a whole boat load of high school kids acted badly

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:06 PM (jE38p)

43 37 >>They mentioned it on Pardon The Interruption.


Their website has nothing.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 16, 2013 06:04 PM (Rq+Vo)

--I'm not sure where it would be, except as a link to the DS story in a blog, since DS broke it just a couple hours ago.

Posted by: logprof at January 16, 2013 06:06 PM (StDOM)

44
>>> And thus ends the rule of law. RIP.

Very few events in my lifetime have "shaken" me. The most recent was John Roberts' trifecta of idiotic political decisions back in June 2012.

Until then I always thought the Court was our last refuge from this Bizzarro world we now live in -- a place where common sense and rule of law still prevailed.

The United States of America is dead. Long live the USA.


Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:06 PM (ZgBZU)

45 This Steubenville story is not even reported properly on in those few occasions it shows up. The articles start right in the middle of it all, not explaining the big picture. If you aren't already "in the know", the articles are horribly convoluted and incoherent. Sort of like stories in the Daily Telegraph about some scandal involving a minor royal, where they throw "Habersham says that this is retaliation for the Truflog's wickerfluffle against Queen Mother" -- and the sorry has no other references to Habersham or Truflog.

What I'm saying is, I think most journalists are actually retarded.

Posted by: wooga at January 16, 2013 06:06 PM (lfTEK)

46 I believe Alabama killed Manti's girlfriend. And took his lunch money.
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 16, 2013 05:56 PM (Rq+Vo)
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And then pantsed him.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 16, 2013 06:07 PM (jucos)

47 Also, if they catch the people making the death threats to witnesses and the police they are going to get some serious attention too.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 06:05 PM (53z96)


Unless they're with OWS.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:07 PM (bxiXv)

48 Vic, criminy. i see , so the town is being blamed for the boys acts or covering up the acts??

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:07 PM (nqBYe)

49 "duckets"? - female duckettes?

I believe "ducats" is the word, Ace

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 16, 2013 06:07 PM (2G8Ca)

50 Posted by: logprof


It's up now on the website. Te'o had to be in on it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 16, 2013 06:07 PM (Rq+Vo)

51 In every Dean Martin roast Don Rickles made the same joke saying Dean was from [some other Ohio town]... Dean would correct him to Stubenville... Don would reply "why that's better?"

Posted by: Doc at January 16, 2013 06:08 PM (oUDps)

52 What I'm saying is, I think most journalists are actually retarded.
Posted by: wooga at January 16, 2013 06:06 PM (lfTEK)

This really has nothing to do with journalists. The story here was outed and publicized by the purpertrators themselves

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:08 PM (jE38p)

53 I love how the rich & famous have different rules applied to them. Rosie O'Donnell just bought another baby. Both her and her gal pay have serious health problems but that doesn't stop them. What's going to be funny is when she does kick the bucket and they are all squabbling over the will. She is rich, though: http://goo.gl/1Sk40

Posted by: waldo at January 16, 2013 06:09 PM (H96hE)

54 Very few events in my lifetime have "shaken" me. The
most recent was John Roberts' trifecta of idiotic political decisions
back in June 2012.



Until then I always thought the Court was our last refuge from this
Bizzarro world we now live in -- a place where common sense and rule of
law still prevailed.










Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:06 PM (ZgBZU)

same

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:09 PM (nqBYe)

55 This really has nothing to do with journalists. The story here was outed and publicized by the purpertrators themselves

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:08 PM (jE38p)


Actually the article at the top here is about press coverage. You're talking about the crime itself.

Thus, the cross-purposes.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (bxiXv)

56 I will never get over how zimmerman's case was set up andfinding truth was difficult.
Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:03 PM (nqBYe)


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Other than the killing itself, what truths do we know about Newtown? None, really, that I can think of. A lot of conjecture.

This has become SOP for the MFM.

Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (MBJe8)

57 Vic, criminy. i see , so the town is being blamed for the boys acts or covering up the acts??


Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:07 PM (nqBYe)

From what I read in the multiple stories the actual criminal acts were brought on by members of the football team. When they were charged people in the town wanted them released and the charges dropped, or that is the implication in the story.

The police and witnesses have received multiple death threats from "anonymous" calls. .

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (53z96)

58
Exactly. Make nearly everything illegal -- so many things you could not plausibly prosecute even a third of it -- and then leave the decision to prosecute in the hands of the state prosecutor, who will decide whether or not to prosecute you based on your status as a Person Favored by the State or a Person Disfavored by the State.

Not that I'm a big fan, but Frank Zappa's Joe's Garage was about an out-of-control government making us all criminals by outlawing virtually everything, plooking a toaster being among them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (yiIja)

59 54 Until then I always thought the Court was our last refuge from this
Bizzarro world we now live in -- a place where common sense and rule of
law still prevailed.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:06 PM (ZgBZU)

same
Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:09 PM (nqBYe)



Hugo Black and FDR are laughing. Hopefully somewhere from the 9th ring of Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (XkWWK)

60 nevergiveup. yeah i'm getting that now.

i read a story of 3 girl teens atttacking a mother at the bus stop.

i'm wondering what's happening to normal social behavior.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:11 PM (nqBYe)

61 STAND AND FIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS....

This gun debate has highlighted the Gregory bullshit and the growing, seething motherfucking unease in this country.

There are two rules. We peasants, we normal Americans that just go to work every fucking day are fucked and raped repeatedly by our overlords.

The politicians, the special interest groups, etc., play by a different set of rules. WELL YOU WANT A FIGHT YOU GOT ONE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS.

The rich can protect their kids with armed guards. So can the politicians. The banks can protect their fucking money (MONEY PEOPLE - PRIORITIES!!!???) with armed guards.

But when us mere peasants want to protect our precious children, not only do our overlords give us no support, THEY PROHIBIT US FROM DOING SO.

This is going to stop and stop now. STAND AND FIGHT!!!!!

God bless the NRA and all Second Amendment groups. And watch this new video from the NRA.
youtube.com/watch?v+a-phl2d n60

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 06:11 PM (tVTLU)

62
I had sex with Te'O's girlfriend. You can't prove it isn't so.

Posted by: Al Roker at January 16, 2013 06:11 PM (p/cQy)

63 They are going to move to ban football or at least put government pressure on it for serious rule changes. You can see the handwriting on the wall with all the breathless media reports about head injuries, just watch, it'll happen before we know it. The left has a weird obsession with banning things other people enjoy.

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 06:11 PM (H0Rot)

64 Hit the store and grab all the bread and milk off the shelves you can!




Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2013 06:05 PM (UOM4



The French toast must not be denied!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 16, 2013 06:11 PM (Gk3SS)

65 58 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (yiIja)


The Central Scrutinizer...

By the way, Frank Zappa was one hell of a businessman. Great little lesson he gives. Play it for libs and watch their heads explode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWXUatVuxQg

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 06:12 PM (XkWWK)

66 Hugo Black and FDR are laughing. Hopefully somewhere from the 9th ring of Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (XkWWK)

It being Roberts was the real knife in the back.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:12 PM (nqBYe)

67 62
I had sex with Te'O's girlfriend. You can't prove it isn't so.

Posted by: Al Roker


Are you sure you wanna toot your own horn like that?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2013 06:13 PM (QKbPo)

68 Actually the article at the top here is about press coverage. You're talking about the crime itself.

Thus, the cross-purposes.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (bxiXv)
Uh OK Rodger that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:13 PM (jE38p)

69 "Warning: This story is more convoluted than it is actually interesting."


Oh good, I was questioning why I lost interest in it by the third paragraph.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 16, 2013 06:13 PM (ROv35)

70 I still don't know what to think about the Steubenville story. As I said the other day, having some dickweed in a Guy Fawkes mask threatening to reveal every relative of the supposed perps doesn't give the "it really happened" side a lot of credibility.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 16, 2013 06:14 PM (CdM/w)

71 What's interesting about the Te'o story is that most of the harm done seems to be moral: it sullies Te'o's character and that of his friend, but I'm not sure if there was much if any demonstrable financial benefit he gained from it. Hell, if anything, some more dollars got chipped in for leukemia research --although I hope DS or someone else will follow up on any charities involved and see if any of them are imaginary as well.

Posted by: logprof at January 16, 2013 06:15 PM (StDOM)

72 Make nearly everything illegal -- so many things you could not plausibly prosecute even a third of it -- and then leave the decision to prosecute in the hands of the state prosecutor, who will decide whether or not to prosecute you based on your status as a Person Favored by the State or a Person Disfavored by the State.
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If this were written in Russian,one could be accused of plagarizing Stalin. Yet people are offended when we call president vote fraud a socialist.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 16, 2013 06:15 PM (GfHSl)

73 soryr, i think IT BEING Roberts was the knife
that cut the most.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:16 PM (nqBYe)

74 House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said action must be taken in the aftermath of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School because members of Congress took an oath to “protect and defend,” although the actual oath says to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States ….”

Pelosi held a House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee hearing on “Gun Violence Prevention: A Call to Action,” where she endorsed the gun control proposals President Barack Obama unveiled today.

“Earlier this month, shortly after Newtown, all members of Congress took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the American people,” Pelosi said. “To protect and defend. That is our first responsibility.”


Kinda explains why pelosi and most dems are such dick wads. they don't understand their jobs, their oaths, or the Constitution!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:17 PM (jE38p)

75 What really gets me is the lying. Lying in sports for fame and fortune has got to stop.

Posted by: Lance Armstrong at January 16, 2013 06:17 PM (Z6Os9)

76
Follow the leftists' train of thought, folks...

Steubenville? Named for the Prussian, "Baron" Von Steuben, perhaps?

Being Gernanic, he would have joined the Nazis, had he lived 150 later than he did.

So, it stands to reason, does it not, that Steubenville, OH is chock full of Nazi sympathiers.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 16, 2013 06:18 PM (VlKT6)

77 They are going to move to ban football or at least put government pressure on it for serious rule changes. You can see the handwriting on the wall with all the breathless media reports about head injuries, just watch, it'll happen before we know it. The left has a weird obsession with banning things other people enjoy.
Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 06:11 PM (H0Rot)


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American football is, well, American. And it has become an American tradition. Traditions must be destroyed. It's the marxist way.

Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2013 06:19 PM (MBJe8)

78 Follow the leftists' train of thought, folks... Steubenville? Named for the Prussian, "Baron" Von Steuben, perhaps? Being Gernanic, he would have joined the Nazis, had he lived 150 later than he did. So, it stands to reason, does it not, that Steubenville, OH is chock full of Nazi sympathiers. Quod erat demonstrandum.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 16, 2013 06:18 PM (VlKT6)
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And yet, one of their largest donors and steering members was an actual Nazi, which does not matter to them.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 16, 2013 06:19 PM (GfHSl)

79 And football itself. Obviously violent brain injuries caused by a violent game that must be banned.
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Good point!

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2013 06:20 PM (5H6zj)

80 What really gets me is the lying. Lying in sports for fame and fortune has got to stop.
Posted by: Lance Armstrong at January 16, 2013 06:17 PM (Z6Os9)
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I agree

Posted by: Bill Richardson at January 16, 2013 06:20 PM (jucos)

81 64 Hit the store and grab all the bread and milk off the shelves you can!


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2013 06:05 PM (UOM4


The French toast must not be denied!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 16, 2013 06:11 PM (Gk3SS)


Don't forget the toilet paper! Even if you have a bunch of rolls already, go get more!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am (yep, it may snow here too) at January 16, 2013 06:21 PM (+tsoh)

82
Actually, I think one set of my BiL's grandparents lived in Steubenville. 'Splains absolutely nothing...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 16, 2013 06:22 PM (U3JvR)

83 How does this help me out Gabe?

Posted by: Gay Marriage at January 16, 2013 06:23 PM (VrVBw)

84 Good Zappa vid there, JJSefton. That right there could be a good introduction to capitalism, if they ever decide to start teaching it in schools.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 06:23 PM (yiIja)

85 That's why the gun issue is so perfect. It fits every narrative we want.

THE MESSAGE JUST NEEDS TO GET OUT THERE.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 06:23 PM (tVTLU)

86 >>>They are going to move to ban football or at least put government
pressure on it for serious rule changes. You can see the handwriting on
the wall with all the breathless media reports about head injuries, just
watch, it'll happen before we know it. The left has a weird obsession
with banning things other people enjoy.

They are going to ban it because it is
1. Violent
2. Uniquely American.

They want to convert America over to loving the dance/dramatic theater competition called Soccer. Because..well whole rest of the world loves it except us.

What they don't realize, is that if they take away football, we'd just switch to Rugby, which they conveniently ignore, despite the risks involved with playing that sport* because all the right people like Rugby. The NFL did see the writing on the wall BTW which is why they started their outreach programs some number of years ago.

*(Sport being used loosely. In actuality it is more like a gang fight with a score that somehow involves a watermelon. I played lock. Dude where's your helmet?)

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 16, 2013 06:24 PM (0q2P7)

87 "All people are equal, but some people are more equal than others."


Also, Fen's Law. :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:24 PM (nGO/U)

88 And from all this what I learn is "yoots" of today are becoming savages.

They might be. But if caught singularly by say, 3 uncles, they would be reduced to snot slinging pussies.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 06:26 PM (d0Dmj)

89 As a resident in flyover country, I an so done with news from the coasts. It came to a head for me at the Daily Caller, strangely enough. There's a blogger there named Matt LaBant, or something like that, and about a year ago he started ragging on Iowa and complaining about why is it the country let's Iowa pick our president because we have our caucuses first.

I jumped into the comments to explain that we in Iowa have very little say in who is eventually nominated as the runners, let alone who is actually elected. I was amazed at the ignorant and elitist attitudes of many of the commenters.

I've never been back to the Daily Caller on purpose, and don't give much of a shit what happens on the coasts anymore.

Posted by: Marmo at January 16, 2013 06:26 PM (pcgW1)

90 This post is all fucked up.

Posted by: Ace's unofficial editor at January 16, 2013 06:26 PM (0PiQ4)

91
Ban alcohol.


For the children.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 16, 2013 06:26 PM (1Y+hH)

92
Fen, a.k.a. Captain Obvious

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:26 PM (LVtr+)

93 FOX News is hiring Dennis Kucinich.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (r2PLg)

94 "90 This post is all fucked up.

Posted by: Ace's unofficial editor at January 16, 2013 06:26 PM (0PiQ4)"

What?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (nGO/U)

95 Weirdly, lack of armor-like pads in Rugby keeps head injuries much lower than in american football (not as many full speed collisions). However, I'm pretty sure it has a higher rate of other injuries.... Then there's australian football; that has the lack of pads and the collisions. Gotta love the aussies

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (H0Rot)

96
81

Oh, yes, definitely horde up on the TP, because if you listen to the wild-eyed and breathless on-air "meteorologists" raving and posing about how they're "GOING TO STAY UP ALL NIGHT WATCHING THIS STORM FOR YOU!!!!", you'll be stricken with a veritable shitstorm of diarrhea yourself.

Effin' Asshats...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (uzj/t)

97 "92
Fen, a.k.a. Captain Obvious

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:26 PM (LVtr+)"

:-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:28 PM (nGO/U)

98 "93 FOX News is hiring Dennis Kucinich.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (r2PLg) "

Well, that's definitely "all fucked up."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:28 PM (nGO/U)

99 Ban alcohol.
For the children.>>

Without alcohol how will there be any children?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 16, 2013 06:28 PM (qo244)

100 When they were charged people in the town wanted them released and the charges dropped, or that is the implication in the story.

The police and witnesses have received multiple death threats from "anonymous" calls. .


Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 06:10 PM (53z96)


That's
not the way I read it. Neither of the links above say the people of
Steubenville wanted them released and charges dropped.



The harassment has come from people outside of Steubenville....hackers and online vigilantes.

Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2013 06:29 PM (X6akg)

101 FOX News is hiring Dennis Kucinich.
Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (r2PLg)


And your point?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at January 16, 2013 06:30 PM (jE38p)

102 101 FOX News is hiring Dennis Kucinich.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (r2PLg)


(1) Entertainment value; and
(2) Perhaps they're hoping that eventually they can get Mrs. Kucinich on the air.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 16, 2013 06:30 PM (+tsoh)

103 Somebody better put Vitale on suicide watch; between 2 items in the last week of ND taking pipe and Duke losing, the one-eyed fuck has to be on the edge.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 16, 2013 06:31 PM (CdM/w)

104 93 FOX News is hiring Dennis Kucinich.
Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (r2PLg)


Hey, as long as he talks about something he knows, like UFOs, it might not be so bad.

We'll just have to Juan and see.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:32 PM (bxiXv)

105 The left has a weird obsession with banning things other people enjoy.

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 06:11 PM (H0Rot)

Shared misery: I'm convinced leftists all share an upbringing typified by envy of others and being a victim of circumstances. They grow up and act out their temper tantrums as 'adults'. "It's not fair!"

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 16, 2013 06:32 PM (zpqa2)

106 Anybody read that letter by the Texas AG? It is teh awesome.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 16, 2013 06:32 PM (0q2P7)

107 101 FOX News is hiring Dennis Kucinich.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (r2PLg)

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Hmm. I would have assumed having finished his assignment to infiltrate the american government, he'd have been called back to his home planet by now.

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 06:33 PM (H0Rot)

108 Ban alcohol.
For the children.>>

Without alcohol how will there be any children?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 16, 2013 06:28 PM (qo244) Actually alcohol is banned for children. We keep passing laws and no one pays attention!*channeling congress*

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 16, 2013 06:33 PM (1Y+hH)

109 Steubenville, OH is home to Franciscan University, a devoutly Catholic college. They emphasize faith in every facet, much like the left emphasizes leftism in everything. I'm sure Steubenville has a big set of liberal crosshairs on the town for this reason alone.

Posted by: shillelagh at January 16, 2013 06:34 PM (cA8xE)

110 "93 FOX News is hiring Dennis Kucinich.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (r2PLg) "

Well, that's definitely "all fucked up."


No, it's brilliant.

There's a reason I wasn't so worried about Alan Grayson being elected to Congress.

Let them be the face of their movement.

Oh, and let Kucinich deal with the fact that all of his "friends" hate him for being on Fox.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 16, 2013 06:34 PM (T0NGe)

111 Sock off

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:35 PM (jE38p)

112 especially Skip Bayless, who I believe is 100%, bona fide, clinically mentally challenged.

FIFY

Posted by: jakeman at January 16, 2013 06:35 PM (96M6e)

113 Burt Mantis?

I'm going to assume my plan to get inside your head, Ace, has worked beautifully. And now my work is done... or is it?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2013 06:35 PM (BeSEI)

114 "104 93 FOX News is hiring Dennis Kucinich.
Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 06:27 PM (r2PLg)

Hey, as long as he talks about something he knows, like UFOs, it might not be so bad.

We'll just have to Juan and see.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:32 PM (bxiXv) "

No Juan likes Dennis Kucinich.


(Except for his confused wife, I guess.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:35 PM (nGO/U)

115 You know, those outsiders who are harrasing the citizens of Steubenville need to remember something. They are armed. Lots of hunters in those parts. Steubenville is alsonear with West Virginia and PA isn't far away so no shortage of armed folks.

Posted by: puddleglum at January 16, 2013 06:36 PM (15w2J)

116 And thus ends the rule of law. RIP.

Long Live The Rule Of Lawyers!

Posted by: The Reason Most Congressmen Are Lawyers at January 16, 2013 06:37 PM (FcR7P)

Posted by: not the mama at January 16, 2013 06:37 PM (5dxeo)

118 Having seen Mrs. Kucinich in person, she is striking. And she's a foot taller than he is. She's a redhead; her hair used to be long but she chopped it short about two years ago. She's also from England.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 16, 2013 06:38 PM (+tsoh)

119 OT - do not expect me online tonight.

Got a lead on another job so got to submit application. And sushi place wants me to do some freelance graphics work for them. Suddenly my cup runneth over.

For those who are heartbroken over this, well what can I say except Yay Me!

An oldie but a goodie -
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2011/02/so-you-want-to-be-author.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 16, 2013 06:38 PM (I9Y9q)

120 (2) Perhaps they're hoping that eventually they can get Mrs. Kucinich on the air.



Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 16, 2013 06:30 PM (+tsoh)


Kucinich already has at least 2 ex-wives; with the age difference of this pairing, plus he'll be around her most of the time now, I'll bet there are a few pools about when the split will happen.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 16, 2013 06:39 PM (CdM/w)

121
FOX can go shit in its hat, too.

they hire a-holes like Beckel, Rivera, and Kucinich for one reason: to push our buttons

it's just a money-making game to these people -- they don't give a shit about who wins elections

All they care about is getting eyes to watch their channel.


Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:40 PM (GcwH1)

122 "119 OT - do not expect me online tonight.

Got a lead on another job so got to submit application. And sushi place wants me to do some freelance graphics work for them. Suddenly my cup runneth over.

For those who are heartbroken over this, well what can I say except Yay Me!

An oldie but a goodie -
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2011/02/so-you-want-to-be-author.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 16, 2013 06:38 PM (I9Y9q)"

Moar Anna. Less Kucinich's Wife.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:40 PM (nGO/U)

123 so Anna is going to ditch us like we'd ditch a 1970 gremlin .

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:41 PM (nqBYe)

124 110 -

Amen. I always considered Kucinich to be the D party's Pon Raul.

The House is perhaps a little more sane, but certainly less entertaining with those two gone.

Which means, if Fox was smart they would hire Herr Doktor and put those two on a show together. Add Howie Dean and make it a trio of nutjobs... the more I think of this, you could have a whole nut cluster. What's Rapin Akin doing these days? Where is B-1 Bob Dornan? Traficant and his toupe? Heck, let's go old school and dig up (possibly literally) Adam Clayton Powell and Bela Abzug!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2013 06:43 PM (BeSEI)

125
when Roger Ailes hires these people he makes it clear that their job is to say ridiculous things to piss off their conservative viewers

that's how much Ailes and FOX thinks of its viewers

fuuuuuuck them

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:43 PM (vzLhi)

126 What about the hostages in Algeria? Or is that an everyday occurrence under the Obama Administration?

Posted by: Fritz at January 16, 2013 06:43 PM (w3+gB)

127 they hire a-holes like Beckel, Rivera, and Kucinich for one reason: to push our buttons

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:40 PM (GcwH1)


Well, yeah, that's why I don't watch. Also like CNN their news is sensational and interesting things often get sidelined for banal crap.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:44 PM (bxiXv)

128 They need to get rid of football so soccer can grow, futbol is tres chic, internatonal

Posted by: Jean at January 16, 2013 06:44 PM (gznAu)

129 Friz, i have expected a post about it half the day.
Could they have missed it?

also hoping for a post on the ndaa someday so lawyers here could fisk it.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:45 PM (nqBYe)

130 Mani T'eo had to have been in on it. Which means this hoax was perpetrated for publicity.

Did you know the difference between being drafted high in the 1st round of the NFL draft as opposed to say, in the middle of the 2nd round is millions and millions of dollars in that 1st contract from the team that drafts you?

I don't have an exact figure, but I'm sure it's around the $10 million mark.

Te'o must have felt he needed something, a hook, an angle to separate him from the pack.

He won a ton of awards and was almost assured an early 1st round pick before this story broke.

How much did the inspirational story affect his awards and his potential draft spot? Saying it had NO effect would be false.

The only motive I can see for him doing this is to jack up his visibility, his chance for awards, and therefore his position in the draft.

Another angle from this story is the exposure of just how gullible most of the sporting news world is. Sports Illustrated, ESPN, et. al. apparently just swallowed whatever they were told, hook line and sinker.

It's too good to check, so they didn't check it.

Posted by: drawandstrike at January 16, 2013 06:45 PM (uVLJc)

131

the whole thing is staged like a Jerry Springer show

Megyn Kelly has her script. Juan Williams has his script. And so on.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:45 PM (8dspl)

132 Which means, if Fox was smart they would hire Herr Doktor and put those two on a show together.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2013 06:43 PM (BeSEI)


You see, that would be funny.

Also would like to see Andy Levy and Kucinichichich at the table, the goal of the show being how many episodes Levy could mock Kucinich without Kucinich figuring it out.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:45 PM (bxiXv)

133
And thus ends the rule of law. RIP.

File this under Leftarded Pathology: Punish everyfuckingbody (by taking away their rights) for the actions of a few.

I had a run in with this type of insanity at an early age when the whole class got punished for what one student did. I'm sitting there wondering what it was that I did wrong (which was nothing) and why I was being punished for what someone else did.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 06:45 PM (yiIja)

134 What about the hostages in Algeria? Or is that an everyday occurrence under the Obama Administration?
Posted by: Fritz at January 16, 2013 06:43 PM (w3+gB)

Get back to us when they start cutting their heads off

Posted by: MSM at January 16, 2013 06:46 PM (jE38p)

135 From what I read in the multiple stories the actual criminal acts were
brought on by members of the football team. When they were charged
people in the town wanted them released and the charges dropped, or that
is the implication in the story.


Sounds like the town where I grew up.

I should really write a book.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at January 16, 2013 06:46 PM (hO8IJ)

136 why I was being punished for what someone else did.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 06:45 PM (yiIja)


You had the temerity to exist, the gall to not be aborted.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:47 PM (bxiXv)

137 When it comes to otherizing the world outside New York City, it is hard to beat "The Truck Stop Killer," reviewed and extensively commented on in these very pages not long ago. That was a clear-cut case of yuckyism. Plus, Bala-Cynwyd.

And if you want to see smalltown football eviscerated, try James Wrights' oft-assigned poem "Autumn Begins in Martins Ferry Ohio," with its immortal

"Therefore,
Their sons grow suicidally beautiful
At the beginning of October,
And gallop terribly against each other’s bodies."

It is that ghey.



Posted by: comatus at January 16, 2013 06:47 PM (qaVK+)

138
>>> Also like CNN their news is sensational and interesting things often get sidelined for banal crap.

It's crap!

Car chases. Michael Jackson's doctor's receptionist. Crap.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:48 PM (+oin+)

139 Forget Kucinich, put Jim Traficant on TV.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 16, 2013 06:48 PM (+tsoh)

140

Computer virus shuts down US power plant, government says - @Reuters



Hmmmm.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 16, 2013 06:48 PM (1Y+hH)

141 My duckets!!! my daughter. My duckets!!! my daughter. My duckets!!!

Posted by: a hooked-nose loanshark with an empty nest at January 16, 2013 06:48 PM (ORGYc)

142 Sock off again before I forget due to advance senility

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:48 PM (jE38p)

143 dammit, hit enter too soon :/

What I wanted to say: I've been following the Steubenville thing for a while (I'm from Ohio, but not that part). We shouldn't rush to judge, but the difference between this case and others (e.g., Duke Lacrosse) is that the perps and witnesses in this case posted about the assault on social media as it was occurring and shortly after it occurred, and the stuff they posted makes me sad for our society.



Posted by: not the mama at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (5dxeo)

144 OT/
Krauthammer on SCOAMF's Gun EO appearance today, "I give the President points for sincerity on this."

Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (aZ6ew)

145 Megyn Kelly has her script.

/steals script, surreptitiously adds in sex scene with Waterhouse, returns script

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (/FSHF)

146 I had a run in with this type of insanity at an early age when the whole class got punished for what one student did. I'm sitting there wondering what it was that I did wrong (which was nothing) and why I was being punished for what someone else did. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 06:45 PM (yiIja)The Catholic elementary I attended was good at that too.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 16, 2013 06:50 PM (1Y+hH)

147 Krauthammer on SCOAMF's Gun EO appearance today, "I give the President points for sincerity on this."


Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (aZ6ew)

which is why He drug children along as props?
i love krauthammer, but sometimes@#!$#!%!!

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:51 PM (nqBYe)

148 the perps and witnesses in this case posted about the assault on social media as it was occurring and shortly after it occurred, and the stuff they posted makes me sad for our society.



Posted by: not the mama at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (5dxeo)

Makes me sick to my stomach.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2013 06:51 PM (jE38p)

149
109

This reminded me that one of my nieces was there this past summer for some sort of Catholic Yoots gathering.

She was puzzled that it seemed to be some strange cross between The One True Faith and evangelistic practices. I leg it go without further inquiry, because she already was worked up over the whole end of the Mayan wash / rinse cycle imminent catastrophe.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 16, 2013 06:51 PM (XHG6a)

150 "143 dammit, hit enter too soon :/

What I wanted to say: I've been following the Steubenville thing for a while (I'm from Ohio, but not that part). We shouldn't rush to judge, but the difference between this case and others (e.g., Duke Lacrosse) is that the perps and witnesses in this case posted about the assault on social media as it was occurring and shortly after it occurred, and the stuff they posted makes me sad for our society.



Posted by: not the mama at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (5dxeo) "

Meh. It's still a Squirrel at best.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:51 PM (nGO/U)

151 Krauthammer on SCOAMF's Gun EO appearance today, "I give the President points for sincerity on this."

Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (aZ6ew)


Yes, he sincerely hates the Constitution, America, and freedom.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:52 PM (bxiXv)

152 i was fortunate i guess. when I was in school the actual culprit got big ben (the huge fat paddle with holes drilled in it)

or wrote on the blackboard for recess a hundred times what He would not ever do again in class.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:53 PM (nqBYe)

153 "151 Krauthammer on SCOAMF's Gun EO appearance today, "I give the President points for sincerity on this."

Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (aZ6ew)

Yes, he sincerely hates the Constitution, America, and freedom.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:52 PM (bxiXv) "

And bitterclingers.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:53 PM (nGO/U)

154 There use to be this guy we would call "the special prosecutor to black sports stars." Even though not in the criminal devision, he would take over any criminal case involving the above and either make the case go away or give them a sweet heart deal. It created a lot of bad feelings in the office.

Posted by: waldo at January 16, 2013 06:53 PM (H96hE)

155 Rangel says The Southern States "have cultures that we have to overcome" to impose gun control.

Fuckin' Imperialist!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 06:54 PM (bxiXv)

156 Score a big one for religious freedom -- a judge just nailed the Russian Government with huge fines for refusing to turn over some priceless books and manuscripts that were stolen from the preeminent worldwide Jewish cultural organization ... TMZ has learned.Chabad sued the Russian Federation for illegally refusing to turn over thousands of religious books and manuscripts which recorded the group's core teachings. In 2010, a U.S. federal judge ruled the Russians had to return the artifacts, but the Russkies said niet.Lawyers for Chabad -- Marshall Grossman and Seth Gerber of the law firm of Bingham, McCutchen -- just won a huge victory. A federal judge ruled today that the Russian Government must pay Chabad $50,000 a day for each day they refuse to fork over the books.The penalties will amount to $18 mil a year. Interestingly, the Obama Administration through the State Dept. went to court to oppose an award of sanctions, arguing they would screw up U.S./Russian relations. The judge didn't buy it.from TMZ. I guess Jews aren't part of the ruling caste

Posted by: thunderb at January 16, 2013 06:55 PM (Dnbau)

157 nood jerkoff post up

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:55 PM (BUcLz)

158 I had a run in with this type of insanity at an early age when the whole class got punished for what one student did. I'm sitting there wondering what it was that I did wrong (which was nothing) and why I was being punished for what someone else did.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 06:45 PM (yiIja)


--------------------------------------------


It's not just schools. Corporations use the same ploy also. It's a bad mindset that's spread like cancer cells.

Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2013 06:55 PM (wFxRK)

159 Mani T'eo had to have been in on it. Which means this hoax was perpetrated for publicity.

You mean Notre Dame being ranked number one?

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2013 06:56 PM (FcR7P)

160

Krauthammer has lost it. That entire exercise by Obama was a cover for the fact he and the anti-gun crowd know they can't get anything through congress.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 16, 2013 06:57 PM (1Y+hH)

161 >>>futbol is tres chic, internatonal

Whenever some self riotous pretentious lefty gives me the holier than thou about loving "real football" I usually give them the riot act that "Association Football" isn't "Real Football" anymore than "Union Football" (Rugby) "League Football" (Another type of Rugby) "Australian Football" (Rugby Derivative) "Canadian Football" (Rugby Derivative) and "American Football" (Rugby Derivative) and that Rugby was formed as a sport because when the Football Association formed some of the would be members thought they pussified a once great sport left the Football Association formed their own game and kept the physical contact rules intact.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 16, 2013 06:57 PM (0q2P7)

162 nood jerkoff post up



Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 06:55 PM (BUcLz)

hah it is hard for me to take a map srsly at this point, i need time to lick my wounds.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 06:59 PM (nqBYe)

163 143 --- "We shouldn't rush to judge, but the difference between this case and others (e.g., Duke Lacrosse) is that the perps and witnesses in this case posted about the assault on social media as it was occurring and shortly after it occurred, and the stuff they posted makes me sad for our society."

Posted by: not the mama at January 16, 2013 06:49 PM (5dxeo)

Agree on all counts.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 16, 2013 06:59 PM (C8mVl)

164 Meh. It's still a Squirrel at best.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 16, 2013 06:51 PM (nGO/U)

Maybe, but I think about that girl's parents, who found out about their daughter's rape from posts and pictures on twitter (the girl was passed out and did not remember what happened), and then I think what if that were my daughter and the county prosecutor pressured me not to file charges because she happened to be the mother of one of the football players, and by the way she happened to live at one of the houses where the alleged assaults occurred, and I can't help but think this is a big effing deal.

Posted by: not the mama at January 16, 2013 07:02 PM (5dxeo)

165 I'm done with Krauthammer and his "intellectual" interpretations.

I guess he figures that he's been selected for favored status.

Screw him.






Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2013 07:04 PM (aZ6ew)

166 I wouldn't go too far in dismissing the Steubenville case. One of the students is drunk on video, talking for 12 minutes about how he raped that girl.

Posted by: Warden at January 16, 2013 07:13 PM (HzhBE)

167 165 I'm done with Krauthammer and his "intellectual" interpretations.

I guess he figures that he's been selected for favored status.

Screw him.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2013 07:04 PM (aZ6ew)

I was floored by his stupifying bullshit over Roberts 0bamacare decision in July. I've been avoiding him ever since. I can't remember which radio host called him Demo-Krauthammer but I like it.

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 16, 2013 07:18 PM (0K4Xj)

168 Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 16, 2013 06:57 PM (0q2P7)

My short version of that is "the fuck do I care?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 07:22 PM (bxiXv)

169 166 I wouldn't go too far in dismissing the Steubenville case. One of the students is drunk on video, talking for 12 minutes about how he raped that girl.
Posted by: Warden at January 16, 2013 07:13 PM (HzhBE)


Who was dismissing the case again?

The article is about the press coverage.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 07:23 PM (bxiXv)

170 Merovign,

Some people brought up Duke Lacrosse.

Also, the linked articles imply that accusations of a cover up have no basis in fact when there seems to be a lot of smoke here as regards to that.

And the kid who bragged about the rape still hasn't been charged. Why? He's on video asserting repeatedly that he raped her.

Posted by: Warden at January 16, 2013 07:32 PM (HzhBE)

171 "Warning: This story is more convoluted than it is actually interesting.
Deadspin's story is a tick-tock of its detective work, none of which I
care about, because I don't really think the story merits it."

Dude, your eye for news is really shitty, you know that?

This story has been HUGE all day, and will be for weeks to come.

Remind your readers never to send you scoops, Ace.

Posted by: Disagree at January 16, 2013 07:43 PM (Ys6PL)

172 Point being, I'm not seeing people here excusing the criminals. The comparison to Duke is apt not because of the crime but because of the coverage - the coverage of the OJ trial was atrocious, doesn't make him innocent.

So you're basically preaching to the choir. Unless I missed something really bad buried in the thread.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 16, 2013 07:51 PM (bxiXv)

173 It's not "rule by lawyers". It's rule by bureaucrats. And you have no recourse, because the state lawyers will back them up as will the judges.

Posted by: notsothoreau at January 16, 2013 08:40 PM (5HBd1)

174 So, how do they find enough sheep to convict people of all of this ridiculous stuff? I know most of it does not go to trial but if say a large group of people, let's call them "Republicans", were to come to the conclusion that the game is fixed and the only way to fight back is to refuse to convict anyone of laws they disagree with... just as the left refuses to prosecute those who are on their side even when they violate laws the left has demanded... then I can't help but think that things would start to get better.

Conservatives tend to be letter of the law people but that only makes them easy targets the way things are being run now. I expect to see things like this start happening now that the civil cold war is heating up.

Posted by: Voluble at January 16, 2013 09:25 PM (qYvEa)

175 Ace,

I've been following the situation in Ohio, and I do think a gang rape of an unconscious girl did in fact occur. I'm running out the door so I'll share what I've come across later in the day. You are right, that online hackers have muddied the evidence waters with their involvement, and they should not have conducted an online trial. Kids have been refusing to talk to the police but sending their tips to an online crime blogger - who cannot act as law enforcement taking evidence. But much of it still looks very incriminating for the people involved.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at January 17, 2013 06:13 AM (g5wi5)

176 The reason why the crimes in Steubenville will get the harsh treatment is the color of at least one of the accused (if not all, I'm not sure) are white. l Sharpton etc the left only support black perps. The Manti story is bizarre and the least disturbing excuse is he is gay.

Posted by: Baldy at January 17, 2013 07:13 AM (opS9C)






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