Don't Worry Guys....John Boehner Is On The Case Pushing Back Against Obama And The Gun Grabbers

This is a man to lead the opposition to Barack Obama!

"House committees of jurisdiction will review these recommendations," a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner said in response to Obama's announcement. "And if the Senate passes a bill, we will also take a look at that."

I don't know about you guys but I get a Chris Matthews like tingle up my leg! What a forceful defense of the Second Amendment and the values of Repubican and conservative voters across the country! This is the guy I want out there as the face of conservatism!

Marco Rubio did better.

In written statement, Rubio says he'll "oppose the President’s attempts to undermine Americans’ Constitutional right to bear arms.

“Guns are not the problem; criminals with evil in their hearts and mentally ill people prone to violence are." Sen. Marco Rubio, F-FL

Via @slublog, Rick Perry did even better.

"In fact, the piling on by the political left, and their cohorts in the media, to use the massacre of little children to advance a pre-existing political agenda that would not have saved those children, disgusts me, personally. The second amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president."

Would you like to try again Mr. Speaker?

Added thought: I get that Boehner's process statement is DC coder for..."not going to happen". As I emailed some folks that's a reason Boehner should be out in front and making a big deal of it....it's a fight he will win and be on the right side of public opinion. That's not going to happen a lot in the next 4 years. He should be making it a bigger fight, not a smaller one. He can lead bi-partisan (cue the chorus of angels!) coalition to victory! Build up a little capital on the cheap he can use later.

Or you know, release a code word, process statement.

Either/or.

Posted by: DrewM. at 01:03 PM



Comments

1 RESPECT MY TAN!!!

Posted by: BONER! at January 16, 2013 01:05 PM (BbS5+)

2 Hey fuckhead, look at this!

Posted by: TexasJew at January 16, 2013 01:05 PM (lD8ju)

3 BONER SUCKS FGIRST!!!

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:05 PM (41VCE)

4
Not an awe inspiring response.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 16, 2013 01:05 PM (8cJXl)

5 But Drew! we Far Right Tru-Cons (FRTC) must learn to accept compromise!

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:05 PM (53z96)

6 Damn close but not quite.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:05 PM (41VCE)

7 We are boned.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 01:05 PM (GFM2b)

8 I am overwhelmed by the gravitas.

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 16, 2013 01:05 PM (eytER)

9 yeah, keep bitching about Boehner. That accomplishes a lot.


a Whole Lot......

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at January 16, 2013 01:06 PM (Dll6b)

10 Boehned again.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:06 PM (41VCE)

11 BOHICA

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 16, 2013 01:06 PM (81UWZ)

12 Plan B!!!

Posted by: eman at January 16, 2013 01:06 PM (tBnjP)

13 I wouldn't worry about this too much. The legislative part of this nonsense is going nowhere.

Posted by: Funeral Guy at January 16, 2013 01:07 PM (3dHo2)

14 My friendsch...

Posted by: Johnny Boehner at January 16, 2013 01:07 PM (QKbPo)

15 But honestly looking at those so-called recommendations, most of them are just nebulous bull shit and will depend entirely on what the beurocrats at the regulatory agencies do with them.


Judging by what those fascists have done so far in this administration they will all be outrageous and unconstitutional shit. But one can not fight what is nebulous crap.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:07 PM (53z96)

16 Would it be too much to ask Boner to stay sober for one fucking day?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2013 01:07 PM (UOM48)

17 Ummmmm, try again you Tanned Asshole.

Posted by: TehAdmiral at January 16, 2013 01:07 PM (xe8yS)

18 You guys don't speak Washingtonian. Let me translate.

John Boehner: This is a pathetic joke, and it's going nowhere.

Nonetheless, he needs to state the conservative case much more forcefully. Perhaps something involving biting the head off a chicken.

Posted by: pep at January 16, 2013 01:08 PM (6TB1Z)

19 It takes a lot of courage to be a coward in today's complicated world.

Posted by: eman at January 16, 2013 01:08 PM (tBnjP)

20 I wouldn't worry about this too much. The legislative part of this nonsense is going nowhere.

Posted by: Funeral Guy at January 16, 2013 01:07 PM (3dHo2)


There is no "legislative part"

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:08 PM (53z96)

21 Wow, they are actually going to "take a look at it."
The Constitution is saved!

Posted by: real joe at January 16, 2013 01:08 PM (ixAVa)

22 That's not even "strongly worded."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 01:08 PM (yiIja)

23 "I need this job like I need a hole in the head" --John Boehner

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/BAL5yowCUAAHvPJ.jpg

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 16, 2013 01:08 PM (n2M+Z)

24 now that's the kind of sarcasm that lights my day... thanks Drew

Posted by: Shoey at January 16, 2013 01:09 PM (jdOk/)

25 "I need this job like I need a hole in the head" --John Boehner

Pic link in name - SFW

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 16, 2013 01:09 PM (n2M+Z)

26
I know it goes with out saying but I am invoking my first amendment rights before I lose them: The Republican Party is NOT conservative.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2013 01:09 PM (p/cQy)

27 Isn't this the same congress that gave Obama the authority to indefinitely detain US citizens without charges, warrantless wiretaps, and authority to kill US citizens at will?

Yeah, I have all the faith in the world they will go to the barricades for this one ammendment when they've been only to happy to shitcan the fourth, and the tenth.

Posted by: Invictus at January 16, 2013 01:10 PM (OQpzc)

28 Eh. . .

He's avoiding an unnecessary fight.

Since he knows there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of the Senate actually passing anything here, he can defuse this entire issue with a simple brush-off.


Posted by: looking closely at January 16, 2013 01:10 PM (PwGfd)

29 The weed of crime bears bitter fruit. Crime does not pay... The Shadow knows!

Posted by: Boner at January 16, 2013 01:10 PM (0It32)

30 ♫♪It's my party, and I'll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, cry if I want to
You would cry too if it happened to you!

Posted by: Limp Boehner at January 16, 2013 01:10 PM (AWmfW)

31 We shall fight
on the seas and oceans, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the
landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we
shall fight in the hills.

After that we'll surrender.

Posted by: John Boehner (R) at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (QKKT0)

32 Hey, at least we got 24 Dutch guilders for Manhattan. Boehner would have given it up for free.

Posted by: Lenape Indians at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (e0xKF)

33 I hate DEmocrats. All of them down to the last freedom hating one. All they want is a king.

Posted by: Harry at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (ib4tw)

34 NYCEO12 minutes ago
Obama/Biden 2012........Clinton/Cuomo....2016...........Cuomo/Beau Biden 2024......!!

Welcome to the 47 percent conservatives !!

"NYCEO12 minutes ago

Obama/Biden 2012........Clinton/Cuomo....2016...........Cuomo/Beau Biden 2024......!!

Welcome to the 47 percent conservatives !!

You are now the party of Dan Quayle, GW Bush, Sarah Palin, Mitch McConnell, Ted Nugent, John Sununu, Alex Jones, Hank Williams Jr, Sean Hannity, Karl Rove and Dick Morris !! Congratulations !!

The more you bunch of morons talk...the faster you will enter the POLITICAL ABYSS for a generation !!! SO PLEASE KEEP TALKING !!"
http://tinyurl.com/asdwbxl

Fascinating comment after an article entitled:
"SEE IT: A Massachusetts man is savagely beaten outside pizza shop in Greenwich Village"

Posted by: Caustic at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (/b8+5)

35 "House committees of jurisdiction will review these recommendations,"

...and offer amendments? You need more than sixty seconds to respond to this list?

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (FcR7P)

36 I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give liberty or have House committees of jurisdiction review these recommendations.

Posted by: Patrick Boner Henry at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (XUKZU)

37 I wouldn't worry about this too much. The legislative part of this nonsense is going nowhere.

Posted by: Funeral Guy Reichspräsident Paul von Hindenburg

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (QKbPo)

38 John Boehner - the 'Wade Duck' of politics.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (IS2o0)

39 Poltroon's response to the sodomite's proposal.

My response was to join the NRA.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 16, 2013 01:12 PM (y5uWA)

40 Methinks that anyone supporting this asshole and his assault on the 2nd amendment have no idea what the 2nd amendment actually says.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 16, 2013 01:12 PM (xmcEQ)

41 *Sniffles*.............. Where's my fucking bourbon?

Posted by: Boner at January 16, 2013 01:12 PM (/YJYi)

42 How many fucking times do I have to say it.

Marco Rubio-Tom Cotton 2016!!!!!!!!!


But in defense of Boehner, heis just playing usual politics. We'll consider it and reject it. Because there is no support for these policies at all.

Thanks.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:12 PM (tVTLU)

43 28 Eh. . .

He's avoiding an unnecessary fight.

Posted by: looking closely at January 16, 2013 01:10 PM (PwGfd)

Eh... He's ceding momentum and rank and file support because he a crony.

"I need this job like I need a hole in the head" --John Boehner

He's there for the $. As soon as he can check out for a lobbying job he's gone. Bask in his leadership genius if you choose. I'll seek cover.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 16, 2013 01:12 PM (n2M+Z)

44 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (/eBe8)

45 Has Boehner ever stumbled upon a necessary fight?


Posted by: eman at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (tBnjP)

46 What Boehner's response should have been:

"Hmmm. Interesting. So Biden came up with this shit without any help?"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (QKKT0)

47 Why the f didn't Romney pick Rubio

Posted by: Avi at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (Gx3Fe)

48

Years of compromise and powerlessness have given us this paragon of leadership. Thank God Boehner has his drunken hand on the tiller.

Posted by: imp at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (UaxA0)

49 Well they didn't exactly write these orders--clearly.

It really might take awhile to interpret the squarely intent.

Number 14 seems weird.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (r2PLg)

50 caustic


shut the fuck up you catpiss troll

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (CM3km)

51 Fan me all over with a feather. How inspiring and confident. What a fucking shirt lifting Julie Boy.

Posted by: eureka! at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (HPRku)

52 This is not the hill to die on. That hill is the one after we surrender the second amendment.

Posted by: Patrick Boner Henry at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (XUKZU)

53 Fuck Amnesty Choom Rubio.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (53z96)

54
Is this a Boner Sucks post or a I Blame The Tea Party post?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (Y4TdB)

55 Y'know, if it didn't sound like some kind of crazy conspiracy theory, I'd think Boehner was bought and paid for by the administration or something.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (YYJjz)

56 I also would like to point out that the Government cannot take away your Right (because it is a Right) to "keep and bear arms." It can merely punish you for practicing that right.

I think the NRA, GOA, and other 2A Advocacy groups need to start preaching that message, too.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (/eBe8)

57 boehner is a democrat.

the gop is gone...he is the garbageman,

Posted by: rev dr e buzz at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (Q13lF)

58 shut the fuck up you catpiss troll
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (CM3km)

You have attacked me for days now. I'm going to assume you are mentally ill and be kind.

Posted by: Caustic at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (/b8+5)

59 And if that doesn't work, Boner will send them a strongly-worded letter. So THERE!

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (7ObY1)

60 I cannot stand Boehner. I won't listen to a word he says anymore. His voice is almost as nausea-inducing as the Preezy.

By the way, SPEAKER Boehner, the correct response to Obama's gun control fetish is, "Fuck you on your wife's dick, asshole. Next question."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (4df7R)

61 Well, nice to see all you crazy motherfuckers learned to type. Thanks for stopping by....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (da5Wo)

62 40 Methinks that anyone supporting this asshole and his assault on the 2nd amendment have no idea what the 2nd amendment actually says.

---

Most people supporting that move probably think that they'll never need said amendment.

If they're lucky, they won't end up terminally regretting that.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (e0xKF)

63

ahh, it's another selective conservatism post

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (DlaLh)

64
yes, Rubio 2016!!!!
... cause i love me some Amnesty.

Posted by: Shoey at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (jdOk/)

65 So apparently, effective speaking is not a necessary attribute for the Speaker of the house

Posted by: Math Major at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (SO2Q8)

66 Posted by: Caustic at January 16, 2013 01:11 PM (/b8+5)

Watch it, pal. There are rumors of limiting posts to magazines of 7 caps lock and exclamation points. For your own safety, of course.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (n2M+Z)

67 Y'know, if it didn't sound like some kind of crazy
conspiracy theory, I'd think Boehner was bought and paid for by the
administration or something.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus


Since when did that stop anyone around here?

Posted by: pep at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (6TB1Z)

68 Look even Inhofe was doing the same thing.

You have to read them forward, backwards and sideways to figure out what the Dems might be up to.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (r2PLg)

69 So. We're fucked then. Good to know.


*weeps disconsolatelike* Why did you have to be such a fuckup in the primaries Perry? Why? *looks for bosom to weep in*


What? You can't blame a girl for trying to cheer up the Horde.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (VtjlW)

70 Could have been the hill to die on, but alas it's a butte.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (tAbBJ)

71 No one will deny me my CAPS LOCKS!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Caustic at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (/YJYi)

72 caustic

just calling you out for the troll you are...new nic...same stink

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:16 PM (CM3km)

73
I wouldn't worry about this too much. The legislative part of this nonsense is going nowhere.

Posted by: Funeral Guy Reichspräsident Paul von Hindenburg


This Hitler fellow is a clown. We can use him.

Posted by: Kurt von Schleicher at January 16, 2013 01:16 PM (QKKT0)

74 Don't worry, everyone. I got this.

Posted by: John Roberts at January 16, 2013 01:16 PM (tAbBJ)

75 Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that if the Senate passes a bill, we will take a look at it.

Posted by: Abraham Boner-con at January 16, 2013 01:16 PM (XUKZU)

76 WAR ON CRAZY: OBAMA DEPUTIZES DOCTORS

The man is certifiable

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at January 16, 2013 01:17 PM (e8kgV)

77 Gotta like Perry's response. Also gotta concede he's probably best positioned to respond as such.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 16, 2013 01:17 PM (r5w1L)

78 What was Perry's response?

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:17 PM (53z96)

79 *weeps disconsolatelike* Why did you have to be such a fuckup in the primaries Perry? Why? *looks for bosom to weep in*


What? You can't blame a girl for trying to cheer up the Horde.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (VtjlW)


_____________________

Damn it.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (r2PLg)

80 You have attacked me for days now. I'm going to assume you are mentally ill and be kind.
Posted by: Caustic at January 16, 2013 01:14 PM (/b8+5)

You seem to be confusing opposition to your statements to physical attacks, comrade. I trust that the only bruises you got from reading that comment were from your cellmate. Pro Tip: Don't drop the soap.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (n2M+Z)

81 WAR ON CRAZY OBAMA .... DEPUTIZES DOCTORS

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (e8kgV)

82
Rick Perry is teh awesome, but I wish that Rs would stay away from the "movies, video games, and online facinations" argument. Everything else he said was spot on though.

Posted by: Don't mind me, I'm just lurking at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (tl7W6)

83 Boehner just called. Bring it Barry. Make Barry write it down, put his shit on the floor for a vote, have enough pub less one vote present. Make the Dims all vote for it, or abandon Obama and the children.

Posted by: Jean at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (J7sV0)

84 *looks for bosom to weep in*





What? You can't blame a girl for trying to cheer up the Horde.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (VtjlW)


I keep telling you, I can bring cheerleaders into Alextopia....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (da5Wo)

85 Posted by: Funeral Guy

You know, I put up a post at the blog I totally don't have that addresses this. The laws are already on the books. He is simply telling his Secretaries (particularly the AG, Homeland Security, and HHS) how to go about grabbing your guns without new legislation.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (/eBe8)

86
No one will deny me my CAPS LOCKS!!!!!!!!!!

First they came for the ampersands, and I did nothing.

Then they came for the spaces, still, I did nothing.

Then they came for the formatting buttons. I was silent...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (yiIja)

87 I'm calling the ward boss back home.

"Not good enough."

We'll see if Boehner has at least the balls Lance Armstrong got to keep.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (LRFds)

88

he can defuse this entire issue with a simple brush-off


That's the GODDAMNED problem! he shouldn't be DEFUSING this, he should be maximizing conservative anger at this shit, and translating it into a call for people to contact even their Democrat congressmen and senators to complain.

That's what a LEADER does, he leads. He doesn't "brush off" an attack, her COUNTERS it.

(sorry for the caps, formatting is a pain at the moment)

Posted by: imp at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (UaxA0)

89 Vic/Shoey:

Come on guys. Look, life ain't perfect and you gotta play the hand you're dealt. Unless we are going to round up and forcefully deport all these people, something should be done to address their status.

If Dems win again and the leftists/statists get some more court picks, the Second Amendment victories of McDonald and Heller could be seriously affected.

One battle at a time. This one is on us right now. We need people who understand that and can do what needs to be done.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (tVTLU)

90 The only way Boner should be pushing back on this since it is a list of XOs is to say that we will wait and see what he does with them and and make up a bill of impeachment as needed.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (53z96)

91 Vic-

Drew has added it to the post.

Perry addresses the hypocrisy--and/or the political opportunism.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (r2PLg)

92 The Federal government has been funding study after study on crazy people
... and this is the best they can come up with ?

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (e8kgV)

93 I thought besides the SS assigned to his kiddies school, the school itself employed 11 armed security guards.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (H96hE)

94 “Guns are not the problem; criminals with evil in their hearts and mentally ill people prone to violence are."

Rubio gets it wrong while handing out more of this nebulous "mentally ill" rope to The Left. That school was a Gun-Free Zone, Evil-Criminal-Free Zone, and a Mental-Illness-Free Zone. And help was only twenty minutes away.

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (FcR7P)

95 Then they came for the formatting buttons. I was silent...

CTRL - ALT - DEL

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (e8kgV)

96 >>>You guys don't speak Washingtonian. Let me translate.

John Boehner: This is a pathetic joke, and it's going nowhere.

That's the way I read it, too, frankly.

"We'll take a look at these recommendations.

---We'll point, laugh, wipe our asses with the paper, and make the freshman caucus have a paper airplane design contest with the winner getting his chosen committee assignment.

"If the Senate passes something, we'll look at that, too."

---Recycling. It's something we can all get behind.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (szUf0)

97 Tell me again why the House GOP reelected this shit stain to lead their caucus? Fuck the GOP straight to Hell. At least the Democrats have the decency to tell me they're my enemy to my face.

Posted by: holygoat at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (XnwWl)

98 What was Perry's response?

Short version? "What a fucking joke."

I suspect that House Bill that prohibits any LEO from enforcing Federal Gun Law just got a lot more support.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (/eBe8)

99 here you go vic

http://tinyurl.com/b5e2yoq

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (CM3km)

100 Eh. . .He's avoiding an unnecessary fight. Since he knows there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of the Senate actually passing anything here, he can defuse this entire issue with a simple brush-off.
Posted by: looking closely at January 16, 2013 01:10 PM (PwGfd)


But this isn't a simple a brush off. A simple brush off would be, "The President's attempts to undermine the American people's right to keep and bear arms is an unseriouspiece of political theater."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (4df7R)

101 Why did you have to be such a fuckup in the primaries Perry? Why?

---

There were three reasons: 1) medical problems,2) exhaustion, and 3) er, ahhhhh, it was right on the tip of my tongue.

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (XUKZU)

102 he should be maximizing conservative anger at this shit,

*looks at his kabuki script* Where are you seeing that?

Posted by: Da Boner! at January 16, 2013 01:21 PM (FcR7P)

103 15 Vic,

Sure one can....

"you do not get to clarify a signed law by EO Giggles the law says Ogabecare cannot be used to track guns would you like impeached or BATF defunded?'

Boehner is under no more compunction not to fight windmills as dragons than Ogabe is he is under a duty to represent my voice.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:21 PM (LRFds)

104 Rick Perry... *sigh*

My hero! *flutters eyelashes*

Posted by: Mindy at January 16, 2013 01:21 PM (3pGXY)

105 Did our "puppy-eating demigod" of a Pres**ent eat the children ?

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter, M.D. at January 16, 2013 01:21 PM (e8kgV)

106 Remember all the fringe, conspiracy-theory, tinfoil-hat wingnuts that were claiming that Bambi was waiting until he got reelected to do a bunch of sh*t including (especially) gun control? Boy do they have egg on their face now.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 16, 2013 01:21 PM (tAbBJ)

107 How many letters did he get from the dead kids murdered in Black on Black gang violence in Chicago this year?

As for Perry in the Primaries, he should never have tried to run while recovering from surgery. I still want to know where the vicious Romney we say during the primaries went. Had he brought that kind of whoopass to the race, he might have done better.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 16, 2013 01:21 PM (kXoT0)

108 71 No one will deny me my CAPS LOCKS!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Caustic at January 16, 2013 01:15 PM (/YJYi)

First, they came for my ___ur links, and I said nothing.

Then, they came for my URLs, and I just kept asking moronettes for pics of their jugs.

When they came for my ampersands, there were no pics or links of tatas to look at.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 16, 2013 01:21 PM (n2M+Z)

109 We'll take a look at these recommendations? They should be mocking this bullshit out of the box. A national dialogue? Hey, Mr. President, dialogue this.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at January 16, 2013 01:22 PM (qwK3S)

110 Imp,

I agree, but that point will be made again and again and again.

The NRA's history is beyond stellar. It started to help former Union troops to learn to shoot. and it also was formed to make sure black citizens in the South had arms to defend themselves.

That needs to be blared out ON EVERY TV AND RADIO AND NEWSPAPER.

It also needs to be reminded to Piers Morgan that the NRA, after Dunkirk when the Nazis were literally at the doorstep of the British, sent out alerts to its members to donate their firearms to send to the British (because the dumbfucks disarmed themselves) to help against the Nazis.

NRA is the best civil rights organization in this country.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:22 PM (tVTLU)

111 100 MWR,

correct knock his goddamned teeth out...


"yeah I'll get right on that as soon as you get on fast and furious there giggles"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:22 PM (LRFds)

112 Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (tVTLU)


I'll paraphrase a popular movie quote here.


Your honor, everything that guy said is bull shit.\



No need for any deportation. Just quit supporting them and deport them every time they get caught in something. Start jailing people that knowing hire them.


They will go home on their own.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:22 PM (53z96)

113
Tell me again why the House GOP reelected this shit stain to lead their caucus?

---

My guess. It was like that children's game of hot potato and the speakership was the hot potato.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 16, 2013 01:22 PM (XUKZU)

114 Funny thing. The freikorps of Germany reluctantly decided to support the Nazis because they thought the socialists were a lesser evil than the communists.

Posted by: Invictus at January 16, 2013 01:22 PM (OQpzc)

115 Thank God for obama's incompetance. He could have banned stuff from overseas like Bush did. Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas...
Hopefully enough GOP'ers and dems have the spine or fear of getting kicked out of office to shoot thegun control billsdown. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Whale at January 16, 2013 01:22 PM (+aCe4)

116 What's the over/under on the amount of time between the progs hearing about Newtown and the progs relishing their new "opportunity"? I say 4 seconds. Anyone want to take the over?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 16, 2013 01:22 PM (tAbBJ)

117 Never fear. Speaker Boehner is a third degree master of the art of bogey negotiating. If that doesn't work, flinch.

Posted by: Fritz at January 16, 2013 01:23 PM (w3+gB)

118 I'll paraphrase a popular movie quote here.

---

It's true. That man has no dick.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 16, 2013 01:23 PM (XUKZU)

119 106 TMI,

Yup...

and never let ANY sit out gunowner, or goddamned crossover R forget it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:23 PM (LRFds)

120 "Would you like to try again, Mr. Speaker?"

LEAVE ME ALONE, YOU RIGHT-WING EXTREMISTS!

*breaks down in sobs, reaches for bottle of Old Grand-Dad*

*sucks thumb*

*dreams of NYT headline: John Boehner: Profile in Courage*

Posted by: The Man of Tan at January 16, 2013 01:24 PM (zF6Iw)

121
"Would you like to try again Mr. Speaker? "
Not really. You see, there's this really cool football watching party @ Georgetown that the Missus I must attend you know, and I'll do anything to stay on the host's good side...

Posted by: Jess1 at January 16, 2013 01:24 PM (lbiWb)

122 God damn it I love Rick Perry.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:24 PM (41VCE)

123 You know, I don't know if the Progressives can be long-term defeated.

Boehner's brand of Republicanism, on the other hand, is trivial. I don't think it would be possible to get all of them, but I'm pretty sure they can be reduced to permanent irrelevence. I don't say my side would win.

But then, they aren't exactly winning anyway right now, are they? Whereas there is the faint possibility they could after a little cleansing bloodbath occurring over several cycles. And since Johm Boehner has seemingly fated us of the classic liberal conservative brand to die anyway, and as I have no stake in the game, and am not going to get any, it thus seems....

Posted by: J. at January 16, 2013 01:24 PM (Q1ykp)

124 It's not just Boehner, It is Also the house that Kept Him as speaker.

They are implying This guy s the best that can be had to represent the only portion of govt we have any semblance of supposed control over?

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 01:24 PM (nqBYe)

125 In my strangest fantasies I did not imagine that the "Affordable Healthcare Act" could be used to have me declared potentially unstable, which could lead to opening loopholes in the 4th Amendment, and legalize search and seizure.

I'm glad I'm an old guy.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 16, 2013 01:24 PM (Qxe/p)

126 Then they came for the formatting buttons. I was silent...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 01:18 PM (yiIja)

You type much faster than I do...

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 16, 2013 01:25 PM (n2M+Z)

127 I was pleased that our local news last night was interviewing all the local police chiefs and the county sheriffs and they were, universally, opposed to any further restrictions on law abiding gun ownership. The lone exception was that there is no law in Alabama against a crazy person, literally one that has been committed, from owning a firearm. A couple suggested that might be a good idea, which makes sense since we just lost a sheriff's deputy to a certified nutcase.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 16, 2013 01:25 PM (evdj2)

128 Someone make him cry or something...

Posted by: sanity at January 16, 2013 01:25 PM (RVjIg)

129 Posted by: phoenixgirl at work a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (CM3km)


Thanks, he should have been our candidate.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:25 PM (53z96)

130
"In fact, the piling on by the political left, and their cohorts in the media, to use the massacre of little children to advance a pre-existing political agenda that would not have saved those children, disgusts me, personally. The second amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president."

What a breath of fresh air. I wonder What Could Have Been with Perry in the WH instead of TFG.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 01:25 PM (yiIja)

131 yeah, keep bitching about Boehner. That accomplishes a lot.a Whole Lot......
Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at January 16, 2013 01:06 PM (Dll6b)


Of course, Wally. Rather than letting him know that he's getting this close to a date with a lamppost and rope if he doesn't show some backbone, we should just shut up and trust in his mad negotiating skills, right?

Cockholster.

Posted by: The Man of Tan at January 16, 2013 01:25 PM (zF6Iw)

132 122 God damn it I love Rick Perry.

Me too, gigg. Me too.

Posted by: wheatie at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (fH4X9)

133 I want some damn Republican to stand up and scream, "Either the dead Black kids in Chicago or the dead Brown Kids in LA/Miami/Phoenix killed by gangs are just as important as the dead White kids in Newton or they are not which is it? Why don't we have a national dialog about that?"

Is it because the Black and Brown Baby Mamas can be safely ignored while they mourn their children?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (kXoT0)

134 I cannot believe our misfortune to have a chance at Perry and He had to do so poorly after his surgery.

Posted by: ette at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (nqBYe)

135 vic

yep, perry was the guy

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (CM3km)

136 It's easier now that I have given up hope on Boehner and the GOP. I am a libertarian. There is no political party in DC that represents me. I cannot even pretend any longer that the GOP is more aligned with my worldview than the Democratic party. I think I was kidding myself all along.

Posted by: California Red at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (cB0VK)

137 There were three reasons: 1) medical problems,2) exhaustion, and 3) er, ahhhhh, it was right on the tip of my tongue.

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (XUKZU)


That was particularly awesome.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (tAbBJ)

138 A call from a headhunter in Texas would really make my day today...lol

Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (YesJa)

139 Anyone who does not think the GOP establishment is not in cohoots with the Dems has got their head up their ass.

It can't be incompetence. It has to be intentional.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (XkWWK)

140 There were three reasons: 1) medical problems,2) exhaustion, and 3) er, ahhhhh, it was right on the tip of my tongue.


Posted by: Rick Perry at January 16, 2013 01:20 PM (XUKZU)


No, there was one reason. The MFM set out to crush him with the aid of some of the Republican Party bosses and too many people blindly followed them.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (53z96)

141 Here's a question Horde, can Perry redeem himself? Is he viable again?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (da5Wo)

142 Boner is why I changed my party registration to Unaffiliated. Can't say he's done anything since to make me regret the decision.

Posted by: shillelagh at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (hRzu2)

143 Well Michelle Malkin hated Rick Perry because of X, Y. and Z.

So that was that.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (r2PLg)

144 125 JWB,

quite.....wonder how they'll get rid of us over 30s so quick?

IPAB

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (LRFds)

145
You gotta give credit where credit is due, TFG is a gun selling motherfucker

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (R8hU8)

146 Republicans would love to have a bunch of purple state Democratic senators on record as having voted for an anti-second amendment bill. It's suicidal for a senator from Montana or West Virginia to vote for something like that.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (XZWie)

147 Is it because the Black and Brown Baby Mamas can be safely ignored while they mourn their children?

Bought and paid for. Bought and paid for.

Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (YesJa)

What do you do?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (/eBe8)

148 140 Vic,

God forbid we have a successful TX governor who thinks Bush is a wimp as President....


yeah I know I was too silent on my support for Perry.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (LRFds)

149 Obama's got twenty-three commandments? God himself had only ten.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (XUKZU)

150 bcochran

for me? definitely.....nothing he did ever made me back away from him...i still voted for him in the primary here and he had already left the race.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (CM3km)

151 I wish Rick Perry were this coherent during the fucking debates. Then again, Perry opposed Ted Cruz, who so far is looking mighty good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (XkWWK)

152 Im not joking Rick Perry is motherfucking awesome. I don't care what anyone says. I was so excited when he entered and I just felt so crushed after he screwed up that first debate. I wanted to cry no joke. What a blessing he would be for this country. Why do we keep screwing ourselves and second guessing ourselves in the primaries.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (41VCE)

153 Since they are linking gun control to health care can I get the doc to write me a prescription for a Companion gun that I can take everywhere even places it would normally be banned? Like they do with Companion dogs for mental health.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (81UWZ)

154 I wouldn't worry about this too much. The legislative part of this nonsense is going nowhere.Posted by: Funeral Guy Reichspräsident Paul von Hindenburg


This Hitler fellow is a clown. We can use him.
Posted by: Kurt von Schleicher at January 16, 2013 01:16 PM (QKKT0)


Within six months, we'll have Hitler backed so hard into a corner, he'll squeak.

Posted by: Franz von Papen at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (zF6Iw)

155 Is it because the Black and Brown Baby Mamas can be safely ignored while they mourn their children?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (kXoT0)


Of course, because they can be relied upon to vote for the D-candidate 85-98% of the time (hispanic and black, respectively). In fact, the more of their babies they see gunned down in the street, the more likely they are to vote D because they think the Dems actually give a shit about them and want to move them out of the slums, half a century of contrary evidence be damned.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (4df7R)

156 Yes yes, and a few on the left, having no leg to stand on as usual, will focus on Rubio's use of the word "evil". A few liberal pundits will use the distraction to mock and deride the GOP, the media will provide the platform and assistance, and voila: typical leftist tactics in action.



And in some bath house, Lakoff will be grinning.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (ROv35)

157 I cannot believe our misfortune to have a chance at Perry and He had to do so poorly after his surgery.


I'll never forgive Michelle Iscariot Malkin for leading the charge against Perry. It's one thing for the Left to attack us from the left. I'm damned sick and tired of our own attacking our own from the left.

This circular firing squad shit has got to stop. Malkin should've known better. Whatever her personal vendetta may have been about, it was not more important than the very future of our Republic.

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (7ObY1)

158 141
Here's a question Horde, can Perry redeem himself? Is he viable again?


Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (da5Wo)

If he works on his public appearance with discipline , I think so.Not trivial but doable.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (AWmfW)

159 You far right lunatics aren't going to accept any new gun control, and because of that Obama will establish enough political capital to force through whatever he wants!!!1

Posted by: Gabe Giffords at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (/Mla1)

160 I'm not at all impressed with this Boehner guy. No sir. Not impressed at all.

Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (jnlKI)

161
>>>Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (tVTLU)<<<<

You're a good Repulican.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (p/cQy)

162 Unlike the Dude the Governor of the Republic of Texas will not abide.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2013 01:30 PM (KXm42)

163
150
bcochran



for me? definitely.....nothing he did ever made me back away from
him...i still voted for him in the primary here and he had already left
the race.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (CM3km)


Me too. I was a Perry guy. I like him. I was pissed he dropped out and I didn't get a chance to vote for him in the primary. (Wasn't on the ballot.)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:30 PM (da5Wo)

164 Vic:

Agreed. But it's prioritization. These people are already here. Something must be done. If the platform is round everyone up and ship them back to Mehico, well then, conservatives will not be appointed a Supreme Court justice, ever.

What is often missed in these debates is how Mexico serves as a very hard line on its own southern border, i.e., staunchly stopping the flow of illegals from central and south america. The illegal immigration problem is solving itself, birthrates are below replacement rates.

Key is not to give voting rights for a long time. in my book.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:30 PM (tVTLU)

165 Here's a question Horde, can Perry redeem himself? Is he viable again?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (da5Wo)

I am of the opinion that there will not be any opportunity after Obama

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 16, 2013 01:30 PM (R8hU8)

166 I loved the EO to appoint a director for the ATF. And the one about directing Holder to analyze categories of gun crime. Those were real howlers.

I had already decided to ignore laws that no longer applied to me because of my tragic trip to the Grand Canyon, but the thing that bothers me in this is the "we are going to label you as crazy if we feel like it" slant I saw in this.

Posted by: farmersusie at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (9zugO)

167 Perry's all we got.

God I hate those stupid fucking debates.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (KXm42)

168 Does Hillary have Boehner's nuts in a lockbox somewhere? WTF?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (X/+QT)

169 John Boehner is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: tsj017 at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (4YUWF)

170 Here's a question Horde, can Perry redeem himself? Is he viable again?


Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (da5Wo)

I think so. He can point to that shiny Texas economy after 8 years of JEF's economy. But, he has to want it, prepare for it, and for it full tilt.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (kXoT0)

171 141 Here's a question Horde, can Perry redeem himself? Is he viable again?

Sure he can redeem himself.

He needs to start doing some Youtube videos...making fun of himself, and the gaffes he made.
Turn it into a 'thing'.
It will also innoculate him from any further gaffes.

Whenever he does deliver a speech without any gaffes...then he should, pause and say...
"Hey, that was okay, wasn't it?"

People will love it.

Posted by: wheatie at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (fH4X9)

172 Republicans defeat themselves.

It's going to take a miracle worker to unite the factions--and since there are more denominations of Republican than Protestants...

I thought the pure evil of Democrats would unite us--but even that didn't do it.

We did not show up at the voting booth.

There was about a 10% drop in Republican voters in the majority of Ohio counties.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (r2PLg)

173 Here's a dialogue for Obama:

1. Fuck

2. You.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (lD8ju)

174 53
Fuck Amnesty Choom Rubio.


Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:13 PM (53z96)
Yeah. All those millions of new voters created by the Obama-Rubio amnesty (maybe tens of millions after the resulting chain migration)? They aren't going to be voting for pro-gun conservatives.
We might have been better off with Charlie Crist. He'd have supported amnesty too, but wouldn't have given other GOPers cover on it.

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (jek5a)

175 141 Here's a question Horde, can Perry redeem himself? Is he viable again?
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Yes, but I really think he needs to do something beyond the TX governorship at this point in order to do so. Something that demonstrates he can master broader subjects and that counters the (bullshit) argument that the governor of TX does nothing.

When's his term up?

Maybe president of the NRA would be a good job for him.

Posted by: Y-not at January 16, 2013 01:31 PM (5H6zj)

176 Here's a question Horde, can Perry redeem himself? Is he viable again?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (da5Wo)

Absolutely. Hell, Newt Gingrich was doing a helluva job in the primaries there for a while, and he's got a lot more baggage on hsi back than Perry ever did. All Perry has to do is make some clear speeches on a national stage to prove that he's capable of public speaking without screwing up, and he's golden.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:32 PM (4df7R)

177 Guy,

Come on man, give me a fucking break. How did Obamacare get through? The fucking dems controlled all of congress. How come we have a fighting chance to stop the bullshit, the Pubs control the House now.

I still haven't heard any fucking alternatives from any other people on immigration.

This idiotic gun issue has handed the GOP a tremendous, tremendous gift. If they can't figure out how to use this in 2014, then they truly are done asa fucking party.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:32 PM (tVTLU)

178 How about, "If the Senate passes a BUDGET..."

Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 16, 2013 01:32 PM (X/+QT)

179 I think Perry did more damage to Perry than Malkin. Hindsight is a bitch. I actually felt we picked a good candidate in Romney ( I still think he was good, just not good enough). He would have been a huge improvement over TFG.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:32 PM (41VCE)

180 This is why it sucks no one had the balls to run against him last week. Easier to bitch about it I guess

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 01:32 PM (CBCxo)

181 Boehner, you magnificent bastard! Outstanding.With leadership like this we will never have to worry about someone running roughshod over the Constitution ever again. Well done.

Posted by: The John Boehner Fan Club at January 16, 2013 01:33 PM (cMGTs)

182 Now that Rick Perry is ostensibly off those pain meds, we need to nominate him for Preisent in 2016. He may not have been the best candidate last time around, but he was damn sure the best potential POTUS, and that's supposed to be what it's all about.

Posted by: DRayRaven at January 16, 2013 01:33 PM (SGSVE)

183 Well, well, fucking well.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at January 16, 2013 01:33 PM (jCQ+I)

184

Look on the bright side. Obama can only ruin our lives for another 4 years and 4 days.

And Boehner will only disappoint us for another 2 years.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2013 01:33 PM (ZgBZU)

185 John Boehner is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable pussy.

Posted by: Andrew at January 16, 2013 01:34 PM (A27iN)

186 I noticed that "stop giving guns to Mexican drug cartels" was not an executive order

Posted by: taylork at January 16, 2013 01:34 PM (ppNDn)

187 This is great. Pat Toomey and Tom Corbettwill be reelected for sure in 2014.

Posted by: rockmom at January 16, 2013 01:34 PM (NYnoe)

188 What the hell are you people talking about Perry "redeeming himself for?"

There may not be an election in 2016, there may not be a "Texas" in "it."


Perry's "sin" was he was a Republican who wanted to win so the M$M pounced, Malkin aided, and by golly Mitt fucking Romney could be bothered to go for the throat.


I'm the world's BIGGEST sucker in 2008 I swore I would back whoever the GOP ran in '12 and as such was mostly silent expressing some slight preference for Perry but mostly buying into the Romney fans cries for "unity."


I would not be a sucker had romney fought SCOAMF with half the passion he spiked Perry

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:34 PM (LRFds)

189 Of course, because they can be relied upon to vote
for the D-candidate 85-98% of the time (hispanic and black,
respectively). In fact, the more of their babies they see gunned down in
the street, the more likely they are to vote D because they think the
Dems actually give a shit about them and want to move them out of the
slums, half a century of contrary evidence be damned. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:29 PM (4df7R)

It was a rhetorical question, especially since children are a cash crop for those baby mamas, so they will reliably replace those children. Affluent White Women in suburbia who carefully plan their families, not so much.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 16, 2013 01:34 PM (kXoT0)

190 89Vic/Shoey:

Come on guys. Look, life ain't perfect and you gotta play the hand you're dealt. Unless we are going to round up and forcefully deport all these people, something should be done to address their status.

If Dems win again and the leftists/statists get some more court picks, the Second Amendment victories of McDonald and Heller could be seriously affected.

One battle at a time. This one is on us right now. We need people who understand that and can do what needs to be done.Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (tVTLU).

oh please, do you think i haven't heard that argument a thousand times before?

the only options are NOT Amnesty vs Mass Deportation.

the best way is to end the free-loader magnets (welfare, food stamps, free school and medical care) and they will self-deport, if they don't self deport we let the cops pick them up in singlely or in small groups at traffic stops and the like.

Rubio can not be trusted, he is up in that McCain Graham group, they own him.

Posted by: Shoey at January 16, 2013 01:34 PM (jdOk/)

191 Here's a question Horde, can Perry redeem himself? Is he viable again?

I think he can, he has been doing a great job popping up in the media lately. I would love to see him get some more attention and become the conservative national voice we desperately wish Boner to be.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:34 PM (41VCE)

192 It was Romney's turn. Perry can't cut in line like that.

Posted by: GOP Insiders at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (J7sV0)

193 Perry has nothing to redeem. All the so-called Republicans who shit canned him based on the actions of the MFM need to redeem themselves instead.


And that doesn't count the squishy so-called moderate "Republicans" who supported Romney out of the gate before the debates even started.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (53z96)

194 184 soothsayer,

Yeah...?

President Michelle Obama

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (LRFds)

195
Look on the bright side. Obama can only ruin our lives for another 4 years and 4 days.


The SCOAMT is trying to enact gun control via Executive Fiat, and you think he's going to let himself be bound by some Term Limit?

Ha.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (/eBe8)

196 I think so. He can point to that shiny Texas economy after 8 years of JEF's economy. But, he has to want it, prepare for it, and for it full tilt.

We have to help him somehow. The MFM isn't going anywhere and the GOP isn't going to do anything to help, either.

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (FcR7P)

197 I like the way this post was crafted.

"Would you like to try again Mr. Speaker?

Well done, DrewM.

Posted by: mare at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (A98Xu)

198 179 I think Perry did more damage to Perry than Malkin. Hindsight is a bitch. I actually felt we picked a good candidate in Romney ( I still think he was good, just not good enough). He would have been a huge improvement over TFG.
Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:32 PM (41VCE)

_________________

This is the first time I did not live in a swing state for a general election.

One of the big issues that i thought we had was ObamaCare.

In hindsight I am wondering if that got wiped off the table.

Did Romney hit on ObamaCare via commercials in the swing states--or did that get neglected?

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (r2PLg)

199 Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:32 PM (tVTLU) <<<<


See this is where we disagree. I think the repubs ARE done as a party, er...or alternatively actively working with the dems to protect all of their phony baloney jobs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (p/cQy)

200 'He's pining for the fjords'

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 16, 2013 01:35 PM (Jsiw/)

201 89



Come on guys. Look, life ain't perfect and you gotta play the hand
you're dealt. Unless we are going to round up and forcefully deport all
these people, something should be done to address their status.



Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:19 PM (tVTLU)

*warning: "can't deport 'em all" strawman detected*

Actually, a large number of illegal migrants will deport themselves upon a) enforcement of current law (which is racist, I know), and b) punishing the businesses that hire them. This has worked in the few areas of the country that have successfully tried it.

Also, giving amnesty to 30+ million illegal migrants will guarantee a permanent Democrat voting bloc majority.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 16, 2013 01:36 PM (7xeJQ)

202 If they can't figure out how to use this in 2014, then they truly are done as a fucking party.
Posted by: Prescient11


That coma must have been a whopper.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2013 01:36 PM (QKbPo)

203 Look on the bright side. Obama can only ruin our lives for another 4 years and 4 days.

Might want to keep an eye on that 22nd Amendment legislation...

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2013 01:36 PM (FcR7P)

204
I personally like Rand Paul's response to Choom Boy's gun grabbingfrom the other day:

http://tinyurl.com/az4a8v2

Posted by: Marybeth at January 16, 2013 01:36 PM (Ks0w4)

205 All Perry has to do is make some clear speeches on a
national stage to prove that he's capable of public speaking without
screwing up, and he's golden.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:32 PM (4df7R)
Ask Sarah Palin how that worked out for her. Not that I want to refight the Palin wars, but, it is far too easy to demonize a Republicans because the Republicans always help the Dims do it.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (kXoT0)

206 No, there was one reason. The MFM set out to crush him with the aid of some of the Republican Party bosses and too many people blindly followed them.
Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (53z96)

Perry tanked his own candidacy. He did it to himself.Attempting the ordeal of a presidential campaign immediately following major back surgery and while doped up on opiate-based pain killers was an entirely bad idea. It showed poor judgement.

I supported Perry until his debate meltdown last time. I'll consider supporting him again, depending on how well he does when he's not high on pharmaceuticals.

Posted by: troyriser at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (vtiE6)

207 We did not show up at the voting booth.



There was about a 10% drop in Republican voters in the majority of Ohio counties.


Maybe there are these hidden Republicans out there. I tend to think the demographic problem has just caught up with us, as the mememe generation comes of age, fewer and fewer have any conservative values at all. Maybe it is turnout, or maybe this is just the way things have been going for a long time and it just caught up with us.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (0q2P7)

208 They had a chance to shitcan that spineless, cryer, Boehner and they didn't do it.

Posted by: mare at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (A98Xu)

209 Shoey,

Trust me, I am all for that. In a huge way. Rubio's best friend is Jim DeMint. He was tea party before anybody knew what that was.

I have yet to see what policies he is proposing, but even if it's more liberal/easy than I would like, we are not going to agree on everything with a party candidate.

In other words, I'm not a one issue voter, so even though I might disagree on one thing, on every other issue that i am aware of, the guy is rock fucking solid.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (tVTLU)

210
Why do I feel like Obummer is setting a trap, it's almost as if he's wants something bad to happen. hmmmm.....

Posted by: spypeach at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (pwTow)

211 Perry lost because of the fickleness of the primary voters and the ridiculous amount of importance put on the debates.

We cant have a repeat, it needs to be more controlled in 2016 so a certain variety of tru-con isnt running wildly from one candidate to the next and in the process destroying any potential alternative to the "mainstream" candidate

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (CBCxo)

212 139
Anyone who does not think the GOP establishment is not in cohoots with the Dems has got their head up their ass.



It can't be incompetence. It has to be intentional.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 01:26 PM (XkWWK)
What? Racist!

Posted by: Colon Powell at January 16, 2013 01:38 PM (AWmfW)

213 Well.... if we let them take out Guns... then we won't have to Die on ANY HILL!!!

After all.... the Meek SHALL inherit the Earth, so I base my entire political Plan for the GOP on THAT!

Posted by: Speaker Bonehead at January 16, 2013 01:38 PM (lZBBB)

214
Look on the bright side. Obama can only ruin our lives for another 4 years and 4 days.


Pffft.

Posted by: Michelle 2016 at January 16, 2013 01:38 PM (ZKzrr)

215 175...When's his term up?

2014, I think.
He was last elected in 2010...and he will have to decide if he wants to run for Governor again.

Maybe president of the NRA would be a good job for him.

I don't think so, Y-not.
He's already got a higher level job than that...and even as a 'former governor' it is more prestigious than president of the NRA.

Posted by: wheatie at January 16, 2013 01:38 PM (fH4X9)

216 \Perry has nothing to redeem. All the so-called Republicans who shit canned him based on the actions of the MFM need to redeem themselves instead.

Perry didn't do himself any favors. I love the guy, I would have supported him the whole way, but he had too many flubs at key moments. I blame a lot of that on his surgery and pain medications, and also on having shitty campaign staff who didn't better prepare him. I'm not going to blame solely the MFM for his ouster from the primaries. Perry's got to take some of that on himself.

That said, I think this run was a good primer for a future run. He knows the ropes now, and ideally he'll be better prepared and more cogent in the future. And I'm going to go on t he belief that there WILL be a future up until the moment that's no longer true.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:38 PM (4df7R)

217
7We are boned.

Learn the word. It's spelledBoehned.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 16, 2013 01:39 PM (deKG5)

218 I'm glad to hear the Perry support from you guys. Like I said, I'm a fan.


I think he can redeem himself. It's simple, tell the truth. But slightly self-deprecating when he does it.


"I think we all know that my showing in the previous Republican Presidential Primary was substandard. I'm not pleased with myself. Here's what happened. I suffered from (whatever back condition). It was to the point that it could no longer be treated by anything other than surgery. The timing was obviously terrible, but it had to be done. Post surgery, I was still in a good bit of pain and so my doctor prescribed me pain medication. I took that medication exactly as prescribed by my doctor. As anyone who's ever had a Percocet before can tell you, they don't exactly leave you sharp witted. And we all saw that. What I can tell you now is that I am fully recovered. I'm as healthy as I've ever been and I'm ready to work with and for the American people to return liberty and prosperity to this great nation."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:39 PM (da5Wo)

219
We did not show up at the voting booth.

That is merely how it appears. A little voting fraud in the right places can do wonders.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 01:40 PM (yiIja)

220 Proper response:

"Not only are these proposals DOA in the House, but tomorrow we will initiate proceedings to impeach the President, owing to his clear and repeated malfeasance and continued usurpation of powers clearly not granted to him under the Consititution."

Turn off mic and leave.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Meadow Party 2016 at January 16, 2013 01:40 PM (GBXon)

221 Maybe there are these hidden Republicans out there. I tend to think the demographic problem has just caught up with us, as the mememe generation comes of age, fewer and fewer have any conservative values at all. Maybe it is turnout, or maybe this is just the way things have been going for a long time and it just caught up with us.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (0q2P7)

__________________________

Well the damn thing I kept forgetting was that general election turnout is a different model than off year elections.

I think we made a big mistake getting too excited about the off year re-election of Walker.

I think Wisconsin messed us up in a number of ways--and that the Republican hierarchy was too Wisconsin centric.

Walker was re-elected but it was during the summer IIRC and the Dem Youth Vote was on vacation.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:41 PM (r2PLg)

222 198
That was so infuriating to me! I kept asking "WHY THE HELL IS ROMNEY NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS?!?!?!"

All I kept hearing was Romney hates fucking dogs, seriously just typing that is pissing me off!
TFG ATE DOGS!!!
WTF ROMNEY?!?!?!?
The dude kept bunting slow underhand pitches right over the plate.

Ugh

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:41 PM (41VCE)

223 This is all the fault of those crazeeee TEA Partiers!

Posted by: Warden at January 16, 2013 01:41 PM (0DlnM)

224 Every event Perry did outside of the debates was first class. Why can't you people take that and look at it and ask why was that?


The debates were shit, they were designed to be shit. Even the questions asked were shit designed to make Republicans look bad. But they really ganged up on anyone they thought may actually have a conservative bone in their body.


And who agreed to those stupid GD debates hosted by the MFM who has been the enemy for the past 50 years and possibly longer?


The same bastards that allow blue States to have 95% of the first 3 months of the primaries.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:41 PM (53z96)

225
220Proper response:

"Not only are these proposals DOA in the House, but tomorrow we will initiate proceedings to impeach the President, owing to his clear and repeated malfeasance and continued usurpation of powers clearly not granted to him under the Consititution."

Turn off mic and leave.


Wet dream - but it sure sounds good when you say it!

Posted by: Marybeth at January 16, 2013 01:41 PM (Ks0w4)

226 Indeed, there is no need to get despondent. We have true Rock Stars in our party, and they are completely diverse.

Bring bring, 1994 is calling....

We have the opportunity to do something crazy and have a real Reaganite revolution. We need only seize it.

I was at a "sports" store this morning, to pick up some "supplies" in case Zero went off the reservation. Anyway, was talking to a guy about certain "supplies" that I hadn't used before, how clean was it, etc.

THIS GUY IS NO REPUBLICAN, probably voted Democrat all his life. And he was pissed off and freaked out about this bullshit. Likes to hunt hogs in Texas, just your average joe.

1994 is calling motherfuckers, PICK UP THE PHONE AND ANSWER IT AND DESTROY THESE COMMIE FUCKS.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:41 PM (tVTLU)

227 5th look at Perry.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 16, 2013 01:42 PM (FsUAO)

228
>>>President Michelle Obama

There's a petition under way to have Michelle listed as a protected species.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2013 01:42 PM (rVr5H)

229 Simple solution.

Rick Perry for President of the Republic of Texas.

Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 01:43 PM (wsGWu)

230 I personally like Rand Paul's response to Choom Boy's gun grabbingfrom the other day:

****

He's a pitbull and I love that about him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2013 01:43 PM (piMMO)

231 209Shoey,

Trust me, I am all for that. In a huge way. Rubio's best friend is Jim DeMint. He was tea party before anybody knew what that was.

I have yet to see what policies he is proposing, but even if it's more liberal/easy than I would like, we are not going to agree on everything with a party candidate.

In other words, I'm not a one issue voter, so even though I might disagree on one thing, on every other issue that i am aware of, the guy is rock fucking solid.Posted by: Prescient11 at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (tVTLU).


Rubio's best friend is Jim DeMint?

you must be joking, Rubio had every opportunity to support the TEA party and he did nothing... nothing.

I watch these people, and I remember what they do and don't do, not just what they say, Rubio is trying to set himself up as a POTUS canidate in 2016, the GOP leadership is squarely behind him, that tells me all I need to know.

Posted by: Shoey at January 16, 2013 01:43 PM (jdOk/)

232 Bring on the REVOLUTION!

While I sit here enjoying my lunch of a Polo Asado Burrito with pico de gaio and guacamole ... gawd I love being back Phoenix, if only for a short time.

Then we will storm the Bastille or someplace....

Posted by: Paladin at January 16, 2013 01:44 PM (wa3LG)

233 Ask Sarah Palin how that worked out for her. Not that I want to refight the Palin wars, but, it is far too easy to demonize a Republicans because the Republicans always help the Dims do it.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (kXoT0)


Sarah Palin is a different case, though. The left's hatred of SP isvirtually a religion. It'sbone deep and blood borne. She lives in their heads 24/7/365, rent free. How often is SPreferenced except in passing in Republican or conservative blogs these days? Not too often. But I guarantee you that in Democrat and regressive circles, there are entire forums devoted to demeaning, demonizing, and destroying Sarah Palin. They hate her so much it will never die. They will NEVER allow her anywhere near a major political seat again. Absolutely never.

The left's hatred for Perry, though, is nowhere near that level. He's just like another Romney to them: a white guy Republican governor. Old hat.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:44 PM (4df7R)

234 Boner is making me cry.

Posted by: Dingbat at January 16, 2013 01:45 PM (PCJvs)

235 If Rick Perry jumped back into national politics, I'd have no qualms about voting for him. He was my first choice last time, Romney was my second choice.

The only hang up for me would be in deciding between Perry and Rand.

Perry/Rand 2016?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2013 01:45 PM (piMMO)

236 219
We did not show up at the voting booth.

That is merely how it appears. A little voting fraud in the right places can do wonders.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 01:40 PM (yiIja)

___________________

I looked at 15 of the most populated counties in Ohio-- Republican numbers were down about 10% in each county from the turn out that showed up for McCain.

I don't think vote fraud explains a drop in Republican numbers.

I only found one county and it was a small one were the vote increased by 1, 800 votes or there a bouts.

Cant' remember the name of the county right now--but I read where a lot of Republicans down ticket were up for re-election in that county and it looks like they decided to make a united effort--and combined their campaign efforts.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:45 PM (r2PLg)

237 228 garrett,

ACLU will sue and have her declared human by way of her speech pattern without feathers.

*this won't end well*

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:45 PM (LRFds)

238 224 Every event Perry did outside of the debates was first class. Why can't you people take that and look at it and ask why was that?The debates were shit, they were designed to be shit. Even the questions asked were shit designed to make Republicans look bad. But they really ganged up on anyone they thought may actually have a conservative bone in their body.And who agreed to those stupid GD debates hosted by the MFM who has been the enemy for the past 50 years and possibly longer? The same bastards that allow blue States to have 95% of the first 3 months of the primaries.

-----------

^This!^ ...Spot on, Vic!

Posted by: wheatie at January 16, 2013 01:45 PM (fH4X9)

239 DrewM hates Bohehner more than Obama. And Rubio cannot be trusted. He's just a RINO too.

Posted by: Mick Jagger's Lips at January 16, 2013 01:45 PM (1Iqf9)

240 The only hang up for me would be in deciding between Perry and Rand.

Perry/Rand 2016?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2013 01:45 PM (piMMO)

Unnnghhhhh. But seriously I think we need Rand in the senate. He's the only one out there not actively seeking to take our rights from us.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (FsUAO)

241 sarah palin for nra president.....oh....the heads that would explode

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (CM3km)

242 I only found one county- and it was a small one -*where* the vote increased by 1,800 votes or there abouts.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (r2PLg)

243 There's a petition under way to have Michelle listed as a protected species.
----
No one needs more of them things running around. During the last inauguration I expected to see Japanese business men running away in horror as she lumbered down the street.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (41VCE)

244 Simple solution.

Rick Perry for President of the Republic of Texas.Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 01:43 PM (wsGWu---- That's what I'm talking about!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (R8hU8)

245 Perry will still be viable in 2016, he can play the debate thing off as charming like W and Slow Joe do.

But lets not pretend he will be received well by everyone. Remember gardasil? Remember his secret plan to bring Sharia to TX or whatever that stupid shit was? Be prepared to fight those wars all over again.

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (CBCxo)

246 All those in favor of preserving the constitution as written , take a step forward. Not so fast Senate and Congress members. All seem to be drinking Orange Bob.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (Q8Pu5)

247 Every event Perry did outside of the debates was first class. Why can't you people take that and look at it and ask why was that?

Not the event here in NH where he acted and sounded drunk as a skunk. I blame the pain meds. But the point is that his unstable behavior wasn't limited solely to the debates.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:47 PM (4df7R)

248 I suggest the Speaker exercise his second amendment right upon his own person and maybe in that situation he won't fail to get the job done. I'm not holding my breath though.

Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at January 16, 2013 01:47 PM (HEa5q)

249 President Michelle ObamaThere's a petition under way to have Michelle listed as a protected species.
Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2013 01:42 PM (rVr5H)

Winner

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 16, 2013 01:47 PM (nTgAI)

250 Man, it's lonely up here.

Posted by: The Hill To Die On at January 16, 2013 01:48 PM (pqkoL)

251 233 MWR,

I have a we'll call it McCain hypothesis.....

no matter how gently the M$M treats you the minute the GOP convention hits you're E. Goldstein.

The MFM simply understood Palin's popularity and uncontrallability and E Goldteined her nonstop b/c she was a threat to the Bra burners.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:48 PM (LRFds)

252 149 Obama's got twenty-three commandments? God himself had only ten.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (XUKZU)


God neglected the contradictory fine print.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 16, 2013 01:48 PM (Qxe/p)

253 There's a petition under way to have Michelle listed as a protected species.
During the last inauguration I expected to see Japanese business men running away in horror as she lumbered down the street.
Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (41VCE)





LOL

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at January 16, 2013 01:48 PM (6BgmB)

254 "Guns are not the problem; criminals with evil in their hearts and mentally ill people prone to violence are"

why does it have to be either-or?

also with the mental illness thing it's not as though it's always easy to predict whether someone will become violent/threatening

Posted by: JDP at January 16, 2013 01:48 PM (60GaT)

255 To Boehner's credit, he basically just said, "I am acknowledging you just said something, and while I'm too much of a Sally to argue with you in public, what I am going to do is smile, wander off, and let your ideas die in committee."

If mealy mouthed passive-aggression were valor, Boehner would be Patton.

Posted by: Artemus Khan, Supervillain-Billionaire-Layabout at January 16, 2013 01:48 PM (27tUc)

256 I'm high on Ted Cruz. He will be targeted for termination by the left and the GOP.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 01:48 PM (XkWWK)

257 Now that they (the government has all your information) have all your information the transportation becomes much easier when they allow you too keep only the minimum of your Integrity they deem necessary.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 16, 2013 01:49 PM (Q8Pu5)

258 235 Perry/Rand 2016?

Any order of that ticket works for me. If we could throw Allen West Scott Walker in the mix somewhere. that'd be delightful as well. Real men.

Posted by: Marybeth at January 16, 2013 01:49 PM (Ks0w4)

259
241
sarah palin for nra president.....oh....the heads that would explode

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:46 PM (CM3km)


Man, that would be fun.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:49 PM (da5Wo)

260 253- Oh don't laugh everyone thought the same thing. That beast is horrific.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:49 PM (41VCE)

261 244 velvet Ambition,

I put it differently Rick Perry is who I want for president and my grandson's history book will say there *was* a president Sam Houston of my country.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:49 PM (LRFds)

262 224. Perry was my first choice, but the 'heartless' comment probably didn't endear him to many primary voters.

Posted by: Don't mind me, I'm just lurking at January 16, 2013 01:49 PM (tl7W6)

263 I don't know what the hell Michelle Malkin's issue was with Perry. That was bizarre.

Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 01:50 PM (wsGWu)

264 Obama just served up a nothingburger... knowing that he will pacify the libtards... next up the debt ceiling.,

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 16, 2013 01:50 PM (nTgAI)

265 I don't know what the hell Michelle Malkin's issue was with Perry. That was bizarre.
Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 01:50 PM (wsGWu)


It was all about the gardasil. But I don't think we want to reopen THAT can of worms. Oy vey.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:51 PM (4df7R)

266 Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to start the Perry wars again.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 01:51 PM (VtjlW)

267 We are fighting the same stupid wars all over again. It doesn't matter to me anyway. If they don't change the primaries I will not be voting the top ticket in the next election. At least not for the Republicans.


And all you people who keep talking about "legislative actions". What part of Executive Order do you not understand?


Pharaoh Obamaseti-I knows he can't get shit through congress on gun control. NONE of this is going to congress.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:51 PM (53z96)

268 I can truly say we are being pushed into a situation that will make OWS punk's seem like billboards for WWF.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 16, 2013 01:52 PM (Q8Pu5)

269 Guns are not the problem; criminals with evil in their hearts and mentally ill people prone to violence Democrats are

Shorter, sweeter, to the point.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Meadow Party 2016 at January 16, 2013 01:52 PM (GBXon)

270 149 Obama's got twenty-three commandments? God himself had only ten.

--------

I bring to you these fifteen *crash* ten ... ten commandments!

Posted by: Moses at January 16, 2013 01:52 PM (NmR1a)

271 http://preview.tinyurl.com/ahydrye
If you want to reduce gun murders, disarm black murderers. That alone would take care of most of the problem. http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydzu46t

Posted by: Thorvald at January 16, 2013 01:52 PM (1V6Pv)

272 >>>If mealy mouthed passive-aggression were valor, Boehner would be Patton.

I'm thinking Boehner is more of an Al Roker acolyte.

Posted by: Fritz at January 16, 2013 01:53 PM (w3+gB)

273
>>Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to start the Perry wars again.

You can stuff your sorrys in a sack!

Posted by: George Costanza at January 16, 2013 01:53 PM (rVr5H)

274
I looked at 15 of the most populated counties in Ohio-- Republican numbers were down about 10% in each county from the turn out that showed up for McCain.

I don't think vote fraud explains a drop in Republican numbers.


That's my point. I don't know the method of voting (electronic vs paper), but if votes weren't counted at all, there you have it. Instant victory for TFG, not by much, but a victory nonetheless.

It's not like it's never happened before, especially in Chicago. Color me cynical, but Chitown politics has been a joke since I really was a boy. Do I trust our enemies? Nope. Their motto is "The ends justify the means."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 01:53 PM (yiIja)

275 We're fucked. Not one Republican has any balls. I mean, look at the Sandy bill. Yeah, there were some that voted against it, but NOT ONE of the spineless, nutless fucks went to the public and denounced it for what it was: a HUGE waste of OUR tax money.

They just sat there and let the media and the left bully them with the "they hate children and don't care about you because they won't vote for you to get money!!!"

Just like the war appropriation bills a few years back. Filled with farm subsidies and stupid shit that had NOTHING to do with the war, but if you didn't vote for it, you hated the troops and wanted them dead.

We just bend over and take it EVERY FUCKING TIME.

Our side just sucks........

Posted by: © Sponge at January 16, 2013 01:53 PM (xmcEQ)

276 "Heartless" IS what killed him, along with the border fence issue. The 100% no compromisers dropped him right then and ran over to Newt, he never recovered.

Had the ABRs united behind him he would have beat Romney, but instead they spent several months sprinting back and forth from one person who couldnt win to another leaving only Mitt.

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 01:53 PM (CBCxo)

277 Gah. Gardisil. Heaven forbid we try to prevent something that 50% of the adult population has. Nope, gotta play "conservative purity" so thay we can end up with a squish.

Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 01:54 PM (wsGWu)

278 FYI, Obama did it today because the House GOP is on a leadership retreat getting ready for the budget battle.

Posted by: carl at January 16, 2013 01:55 PM (nF4Jh)

279 (can opener in one hand, can marked "Gardasil" in the other)

don't make me do it.... i will if i have to...

Posted by: Shoey at January 16, 2013 01:55 PM (jdOk/)

280 I'd love to see Rand Paul or Rubio or someone propose a new Federal Firearm license that would enable the bearer to purchase any firearm, magazine or accessory regardless of the state he resides in, provided it is legal according to the federal government. The license should be "shall issue", require only a background check, and a fee not to exceed $50, and be for life.
Then we can also have a federal carry license which would allow the bearer to carry a concealed weapon regardless of state regulations, including in airports and other gun free zones. The fee would not exceed $100, require a background check, and a gun safety exam. It will also be "shall issue" and be for life.
If the state has more liberal gun laws (liberal in the literal not political meaning) then those laws would govern what could be purchased, if the state has more restrictive laws, the federal laws would govern what could be purchased.
I want to stick it to Bloomy and Cuomo.

Posted by: Iblis at January 16, 2013 01:55 PM (9221z)

281 Where's the fuckin' Ewok Signal?

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2013 01:55 PM (rVr5H)

282 http://youtu.be/rOjdBp167q0

More Russian Navy v Somali pirates.....

possibly NSFW use judgement....

been meaning to ask Liberal trolls

"why are you not decrying Russia?'

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (LRFds)

283 266 Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to start the Perry wars again.

He's in the Thread Topic, AtC...so you're off the hook.

Posted by: wheatie at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (fH4X9)

284 I bring to you these fifteen *crash* ten ... ten commandments!

ISWYDT Mel.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (GFM2b)

285 I don't know what the hell Michelle Malkin's issue was with Perry. That was bizarre.

Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 01:50 PM (wsGWu)


She was all pissed off about his attempted force of the HPV vaccine.

I admittedly was pissed about that as well, but I sure as hell would rather have HIM in office right now than TFG.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (xmcEQ)

286 That's my point. I don't know the method of voting (electronic vs paper), but if votes weren't counted at all, there you have it. Instant victory for TFG, not by much, but a victory nonetheless.


_______________________

Well I looked at who was the county commissioner and there where 10% drops in counties run by Republicans.

Plus--there is always talk about election fraud which can add up to maybe 1%, 3% at most but 10% is pretty hard to pull off.

Also Republican Secretary of State, and governor.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (r2PLg)

287 268 I can truly say we are being pushed into a situation that will make OWS punk's seem like billboards for WWF.

I had a similar thought in the car last night, and heard Rush hinting to it today on radio ( I think). It does seem like he is trying to engineer something by constantly pushing liberal issues. I really feel like he possibly trying to back some red states into a corner. Possibly to either encourage (through his actions) another Tim McVeigh kind of thing, or even preclude a Waco thing. Typing this I feel a little silly suggesting it, but I do think it's at least a possibility.

Of course he could just be totally fucking nuts and think most Americans agree with his crazy bullshit.

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (41VCE)

288
266
Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to start the Perry wars again.







Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 01:51 PM (VtjlW)


You and me both started shit again. Lol. I tossed out the red meat of basically asking if Perry could have a chance in 2016.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (da5Wo)

289 Strange that we haven't heard a peep out of ole Mitt over this gun control argument.

Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (jnlKI)

290 (can opener in one hand, can marked "Gardasil" in the other)
don't make me do it.... i will if i have to...

Posted by: Shoey at January 16, 2013 01:55 PM (jdOk/)


Please, dear Lord, PUT IT AWAY!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (4df7R)

291 Why do I feel like Obummer is setting a trap, it's almost as if he's wants something bad to happen. hmmmm.....
Posted by: spypeach at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (pwTow)

Provoking another Waco could possibly allow the federal government and the MSM to portray all 2nd Amendment advocates as whackjob extremists of one degree or another. It would be a risky play, though. Racking up a Fast and Furious-like bodycount of otherwise law-abiding American citizens might have the undesired effect (from their perspective) of radicalizing a substantial segment of the population. It wouldn't be an insurmountable step from rights advocate to revolutionary.

Posted by: troyriser at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (vtiE6)

292 We are fighting the same stupid wars all over again. It doesn't matter to me anyway. If they don't change the primaries I will not be voting the top ticket in the next election. At least not for the Republicans.


Vic, what primary system would you like? I'm partial to Geraghty's plan myself.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (VtjlW)

293 222 198
That was so infuriating to me! I kept asking "WHY THE HELL IS ROMNEY NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS?!?!?!"

All I kept hearing was Romney hates fucking dogs, seriously just typing that is pissing me off!
TFG ATE DOGS!!!
WTF ROMNEY?!?!?!?
The dude kept bunting slow underhand pitches right over the plate.

Ugh

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 01:41 PM (41VCE)

----
did you read that interview with Tagg Romney where he said Mitt really didn't want the job in the first place?
That really pissed me off. One of the basic qualifications for running should be that you actually want the fucking job, ideally more than anything else

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 16, 2013 01:57 PM (SMhib)

294 Boehener and Rubio are working on amnesty, aka destroying the GOP for a generation, so leave them alone! lol

Posted by: Dan at January 16, 2013 01:57 PM (/7gN/)

295 281 Where's the fuckin' Ewok Signal?
Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2013 01:55 PM (rVr5H)

_____________

Ya--we need a thread about something more hopeful than Republican prospects-- like a Lindsey Lohan thread....

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:57 PM (r2PLg)

296
278FYI, Obama did it today because the House GOP is on a leadership retreat getting ready for the budget battle.

"Leadership Retreat?" They don't need no stinkin' leadeship retrat. They retreat from leadership every day.
Whatabout a "how to nut up" seminar?

Posted by: Marybeth at January 16, 2013 01:58 PM (Ks0w4)

297 Strange that we haven't heard a peep out of ole Mitt over this gun control argument.
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (jnlKI)


Why? He's not in elected office or working for any politically-minded organziation. He's a private citizen.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:58 PM (4df7R)

298 287 gigg,

The proper response is what Perry did and buying ammo and getting training.

The next proper response is mainstreaming secession which the New England states did for ~5 years before they tried it, and the south did for ~15 years before they did.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:59 PM (LRFds)

299 I REALLY REALLY hated to pull off my "Adios, MoFo" bumper sticker off during the primaries after Perry withdrew.

He's the warrior we've been waiting for!

Posted by: Whitehall at January 16, 2013 01:59 PM (FmPSC)

300 Ya--we need a thread about something more hopeful than Republican prospects-- like a Lindsey Lohan thread....

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 01:57 PM (r2PLg)


I need that like I need a hole in my head.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 16, 2013 01:59 PM (xmcEQ)

301 did you read that interview with Tagg Romney where he said Mitt really didn't want the job in the first place?
That really pissed me off. One of the basic qualifications for running should be that you actually want the fucking job, ideally more than anything else

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 16, 2013 01:57 PM (SMhib)


I don't know that I agree with that.
Leave me alone and let me roll over in my grave.

Posted by: George Washington at January 16, 2013 01:59 PM (Qxe/p)

302
It s*cks the President's c*ck, or it gets the hose again...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 16, 2013 01:59 PM (dmcx3)

303 297 MWR,

who is enjoying 9 housepayments worth of my money...

because I sure as hell did not see evidence of his spending it effectively

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 01:59 PM (LRFds)

304
I could use some LauraW brand humor right now.
...with just a hint of hump.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2013 01:59 PM (rVr5H)

305 I'd love to see Rand Paul or Rubio or someone propose a new Federal
Firearm license that would enable the bearer to purchase any firearm,
magazine or accessory regardless of the state he resides in, provided it
is legal according to the federal government. The license should be
"shall issue", require only a background check, and a fee not to exceed
$50, and be for life.


Federalism- you're either for it or against it. The federal government has no place issuing carry permits.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 16, 2013 02:00 PM (SY2Kh)

306 275 But does their side suck more? If not, why not just join them? At least they are winning

Posted by: EpicBeardManThe III at January 16, 2013 02:00 PM (1Iqf9)

307 "Gah. Gardisil. Heaven forbid we try to prevent something that 50% of the adult population has. Nope, gotta play "conservative purity" so thay we can end up with a squish.
Posted by: Lauren "

Ummmm, do you not know the potential downsides of that stuff? Obviously not. Try knowing what you are talking about before posting next time.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Whale at January 16, 2013 02:01 PM (uhftQ)

308 147 What do you do?

Walk away from desk for a few minutes, and damn...still so easy to miss stuff.

I do data interface architecture work for those vile, despicable entities known in the healthcare industry as 'payors'...sigh. I'm something of an expert on the Administrative Simplification (ha!), Security and Privacy provisions of HIPAA.

Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 02:01 PM (YesJa)

309
"Boehener and Rubio are working on amnesty, aka destroying the GOP for a generation, so leave them alone! lol"
This!Fact is that no matter what they do, 2/3 of Hispanics vote democrat. So how in the world they think this will helpus is beyond me. We're effed in so many waysI almost want to just go buy some KY so it doesn't hurt as bad. Oh, and KY = AR15

Posted by: Andrew at January 16, 2013 02:01 PM (A27iN)

310 285...She was all pissed off about his attempted force of the HPV vaccine.

Which he only proposed so that insurance companies would be forced to pay for it.

Posted by: wheatie at January 16, 2013 02:01 PM (fH4X9)

311 305 hollowpoint,

Federalism if they want to serve me an Ogabecare shitsandwich I can serve them some national stand your ground law.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 02:02 PM (LRFds)

312 Perry only jumped in at the last minute because the R field sucked to totally.

He's fine where he is. I live in Texas. Go find another savior. The primary voters can DIAF.

Posted by: Invictus at January 16, 2013 02:02 PM (OQpzc)

313 You and me both started shit again. Lol. I tossed out the red meat of basically asking if Perry could have a chance in 2016.

****

He hasn't burned any bridges with me. Hell, he might be able to capitalize on low expectations.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2013 02:02 PM (piMMO)

314 I vote again for Rick Perry. Le sigh. Boehner sucks bad.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 16, 2013 02:02 PM (ATdet)

315 You know what would be more fun than sitting here arguing amongst ourselves about who we SHOULD have nominated, or who we COULD nominate? How about going over to some of the Dem regressive strongholds and pissing in their Cheerios about what a colossal fuckup their Mocha Messiah is. I'm tired of bashing our own side; love them or hate them, they aren't Bammy. He's the one who deserves our ire, and his supporters even more so.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 02:02 PM (4df7R)

316
>>>Ummmm, do you not know the potential downsides of that stuff? Obviously not. Try knowing what you are talking about before posting next time.

+Eleventy!1!!

Posted by: Jenny McCarthy at January 16, 2013 02:03 PM (rVr5H)

317 I was just thinking about this... these executive orders are worse than even I initially thought.

TFG isn't just attempting to enact gun control via Executive Fiat, he's attempting to turn the Keeping and Bearing Arms from a Right into a privilege.

And if it's a privilege, the Government can do away with it all together. Or provide it only for select constituencies.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 02:03 PM (/eBe8)

318 Heaven forbid we try to prevent something that 50% of the adult population has.

Thank you for understanding that what Mayor Bloomberg and I are doing is more important than these silly wingutz notions about "freedom."

Posted by: Mrs SCOAMF at January 16, 2013 02:03 PM (ZKzrr)

319 I don't know guys, speaking of coded statements, I'm pretty sure Rick Perry just told me he loves me and wants me to dig through his trash for love momentos.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at January 16, 2013 02:03 PM (aMzOn)

320 312 Invictus,

He's keeping the fallback position humming.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 02:04 PM (LRFds)

321 It was all about the gardasil. But I don't think we want to reopen THAT can of worms. Oy vey.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 01:51 PM (4df7R)
She wasn't wild about Perry's Hispandering on immigration either.

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at January 16, 2013 02:04 PM (jek5a)

322 Baroke Owebama can go fuck himself with Michelle's dick.

He ain't gonna win this battle.

Best thing my dad ever did was move us to Texas. I've been thankful ever since.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 16, 2013 02:04 PM (xmcEQ)

323 AllenG, is there a transcript of his remarks yet?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 02:05 PM (da5Wo)

324 315 You know what would be more fun than sitting here arguing amongst ourselves about who we SHOULD have nominated, or who we COULD nominate? How about going over to some of the Dem regressive strongholds and pissing in their Cheerios about what a colossal fuckup their Mocha Messiah is. I'm tired of bashing our own side; love them or hate them, they aren't Bammy. He's the one who deserves our ire, and his supporters even more so.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 02:02 PM (4df7R)

______________________

The Leftist Front's middle name is--

censorship.

They delete faster than Ace posts when CAC is around.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 02:05 PM (r2PLg)

325 Shoey, I told you not to open that can! Dammit, now there're worms everywhere.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 02:05 PM (4df7R)

326
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 02:03 PM (/eBe

It's more of a bone for Lawyers. Anything they do is going straight to the courts.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2013 02:05 PM (rVr5H)

327 Which he only proposed so that insurance companies would be forced to pay for it.

Which is more important than any than your silly wingnutz notions about "freedom."

Posted by: Sandy Fluke at January 16, 2013 02:05 PM (ZKzrr)

328 They delete faster than Ace posts when CAC is around.
Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 02:05 PM (r2PLg)


Well yes, but that doesn't mean it's not fun to do.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 02:05 PM (4df7R)

329 Vic, what primary system would you like? I'm partial to Geraghty's plan myself.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (VtjlW)


My ideal system would be a series of 3 runoffs with the bottom 50% dropping out after each one (all States vote on the same day). With the last or 4th being a final runoff between the top 2. (assuming we have that many candidates.

The next choice would be about the same as what we have now except voting order would be by the percentage of "redness" in the last election. IOW the State who had the highest Republican percentage voting would go first and it would follow in that order.

Under those rules Iowa and New Hampshire would be voting near last.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 02:05 PM (53z96)

330 did you read that interview with Tagg Romney where he said Mitt really didn't want the job in the first place?

That really pissed me off. One of the basic qualifications for
running should be that you actually want the fucking job, ideally more
than anything else

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 16, 2013 01:57 PM (SMhib)


I'm pretty sure Willard wanted the job, even if he didn't attack the JEF nearly as much as I want him to do (better than McRINO but still short of how it should've been). I chalked up Tagg's statement to being a good son defending his father; which I can understand and find less annoying than Mega McCannz witless and self-serving meanderings.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 16, 2013 02:06 PM (BOkRL)

331 Ann Coulter also hated him....

How's that Chris Christie working for ya!?

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 02:06 PM (r2PLg)

332 Sandy Fluke

I smell fish.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Whale at January 16, 2013 02:06 PM (uhftQ)

333
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 02:03 PM (/eBe


This. Registration and permits = permission.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 16, 2013 02:06 PM (deKG5)

334 319 I don't know guys, speaking of coded statements, I'm pretty sure Rick Perry just told me he loves me and wants me to dig through his trash for love momentos.

Too late hot plate, his secret messages told me he wants me ... inside him <3<3<3

Posted by: gigg at January 16, 2013 02:06 PM (41VCE)

335 Why do I feel like Obummer is setting a trap, it's almost as if he's wants something bad to happen. hmmmm.....
Posted by: spypeach at January 16, 2013 01:37 PM (pwTow)



Here. I have an extra propeller for my tinhat. You can have it.

I'm not being snarky, I honestly feel like I'm being pushed into Grassy Knoll land with all that's going on.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 02:06 PM (VtjlW)

336 I do data interface architecture work for those vile, despicable
entities known in the healthcare industry as 'payors'...sigh. I'm
something of an expert on the Administrative Simplification (ha!),
Security and Privacy provisions of HIPAA.


Dude. Texas would love to have you.

By "data interface architecture work" are you referring to software development, or network/telecoms architecture? Either way- resume to dedicatedtenther[at]gmail.

I can't guarantee anything, but I'm pretty sure my employer is looking for folks.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 02:06 PM (/eBe8)

337 Thank you for understanding that what Mayor Bloomberg and I are doing is more important than these silly wingutz notions about "freedom."
Posted by: Mrs SCOAMF at January 16, 2013 02:03 PM (ZKzrr)

HPV leads to cervical cancer and is entirely preventable. I'd give the same order based on the fact we are subsidizing children having children. And any prole that read the order would know it was opt-outable. Screw anyone who wanted to shitcan Perry for it. As I said. DIAF you ignorant shit for brains.

If you like Perry, this was not aimed at you.

Posted by: Invictus at January 16, 2013 02:07 PM (OQpzc)

338 Hey don't joke about Gardasil, it turned my husband into Cam from Modern Family

Posted by: Michelle Bachmann at January 16, 2013 02:07 PM (CBCxo)

339 Perry is done as a national candidate.

If you want to vote for someone from Texas in 2016, vote for Ted Cruz (who wouldn't be a Senator if Perry had his way).

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at January 16, 2013 02:07 PM (jek5a)

340 AllenG, is there a transcript of his remarks yet?

Not that I know of, but I haven't been looking.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 02:08 PM (/eBe8)

341 the whole Gardisil incident demonstrates exactly what is wrong with the entire Ruling Class and their mind-numbed supporters.

let me make it clear for you:

Gardisil is a treatment for a sexually transmitted disease using the force of an Executive Order (or Law) to force it upon one or all is making a moral judgement about that person or people in general which says "you are not able to control your own desires therefor the government must save you from yourself" it is immoral for the government or its agents to make such a judgement, that judgement is a matter between each individual and their maker.

the difference between this and an airborne disease is choice, a person chooses when and with who they have sex, it is not the governments job to punish that individual or society as a whole based on that persons bad decisions, it (generally) takes an act of will to catch a STD, it is not the domain of government to control the will of the individual.

Perry was totally, completely and in a very Progressive-like manner, verey, very wrong.

Posted by: Shoey at January 16, 2013 02:08 PM (jdOk/)

342 And any prole that read the order would know it was opt-outable.

*sigh* And therein lies the problem. It should have been opt-INable, not opt-OUTable.

But whatever. Minutia.

Fuck, this thread has given me such a g-ddamned headache. I'ma let y'all finish without me. Laterz.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 02:08 PM (4df7R)

343 That really pissed me off. One of the basic qualifications for
running should be that you actually want the fucking job, ideally more
than anything els

****

I'm pretty sure Tagg doesn't know his ass from a, well, you know.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2013 02:08 PM (piMMO)

344 Ace is alive and posting.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 02:08 PM (r2PLg)

345 338 Hey don't joke about Gardasil, it turned my husband into Cam from Modern Family

---

Call us back when he becomes Joe Biden.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 16, 2013 02:09 PM (e0xKF)

346
Well I looked at who was the county commissioner and there where 10% drops in counties run by Republicans.

OK, I'll trust your research, Tasker. However, I still have my doubts, especially given how votes can be so conveniently "misplaced" in car trunks and other places, or in the case of electronic voting, disappeared into the ether.

What concerns me the most is the psychological impact that TFG's reelection is having on those of us who thought that Mitt's election should've been a slam dunk. I still can't believe that happened.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 02:09 PM (yiIja)

347 Ace up

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 02:09 PM (53z96)

348 I do data interface architecture work for those vile, despicable entities known in the healthcare industry as 'payors'...sigh. I'm something of an expert on the Administrative Simplification (ha!), Security and Privacy provisions of HIPAA.
Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 02:01 PM (YesJa)



I would like to apologize for the fact that I may, possibly, in a past work life, have attempted to set you on fire with the power of my miiiiiiiind.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 02:10 PM (VtjlW)

349 If you want to vote for someone from Texas in 2016, vote for Ted Cruz (who wouldn't be a Senator if Perry had his way).

****

It might take a while to wash the bad taste of his post-election grandstanding out of my mouth. Romney lost. His further commentary was unnecessary.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2013 02:10 PM (piMMO)

350 As was explained ad infinitum during the primary, it had to be opt-out or insurance wouldn't cover it.

and with that I'm done with the Perry wars, anyone still complaining about gardasil after seeing the results in november needs to kick themselves in the nuts.

Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 02:11 PM (CBCxo)

351 TFG isn't just attempting to enact gun control via Executive Fiat, he's attempting to turn the Keeping and Bearing Arms from a Right into a privilege.And if it's a privilege, the Government can do away with it all together. Or provide it only for select constituencies.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 02:03 PM (/eBe


---------------------------------------------------


The foot is gaining even more purchase in the door. BUT, if that makes me an outlaw, then I will be an outlaw.

Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2013 02:11 PM (jnlKI)

352 If you want to vote for someone from Texas in 2016, vote for Ted Cruz (who wouldn't be a Senator if Perry had his way).
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at January 16, 2013 02:07 PM (jek5a)

Shouldn't he at least begin to establish a track record before we name him the salvation of the party?

Posted by: Invictus at January 16, 2013 02:11 PM (OQpzc)

353 HPV leads to cervical cancer and is entirely preventable. I'd give the
same order based on the fact we are subsidizing children having
children.


Food leads to obesity and is entirely preventable. I'm so glad to find such an enthusiastic supporter of my initiatives!

Posted by: Mrs SCOAMF at January 16, 2013 02:11 PM (ZKzrr)

354 I've got a Boehner boner!

Ooooops. Just jizzed again.

Posted by: poop at January 16, 2013 02:13 PM (01R+Z)

355 Damn you right-wingnuts for causing this.

Posted by: Mal Gablor at January 16, 2013 02:13 PM (YmPwQ)

356 Food leads to obesity and is entirely preventable. I'm so glad to find such an enthusiastic supporter of my initiatives!
Posted by: Mrs SCOAMF at January 16, 2013 02:11 PM (ZKzrr)

I hope you are enjoying the fruits of your labors.

Posted by: Invictus at January 16, 2013 02:13 PM (OQpzc)

357 346 backwards Boy,

"psychological impact"?

What walk away from the net for a month, clear your head, ponder what is and is not important to you and what is and is not the source of the ties that foster loyalty in you.

Adapt and move on.

How retarded some moron wench from Cleveland Heights is on what her vote is supposed to be an exercise of is not going to make me Koo koo for Coco Puffs.

My loyalty is to the Founding principles of the United States and the Constitution.

After that I get flexible.

TFG ain't meeting criteria one IMHO and so far barely we have not irrevocably severed the ability to gain back #2.

The rest is just preparing and trying to be a lawful citizen.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 02:14 PM (LRFds)

358 336 I can't guarantee anything

I'm a software/solutions guy, definitely. I've worked in and/or around the SDLC (as a vendor and customer) for a couple decades. My core technical competency is what is better known as "ANSI X12 Electronic Data Interchange". I design and manage entire systems (from the physical database itself to and through the surrounding business processes) that manage the life cycle of data as it is exchanged between various entities within the hopeless morass known as "healthcare".

Normally my wife just says "he works with computers"...

idk, an AoS HQ employment love connection? Is there precedent? lol...

Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 02:15 PM (YesJa)

359 a person chooses when and with who they have sex,

Tell that to rape & pedophile victims. You DO understand that the gardasil program was aimed at school kids who are NOT old enough to even give consent. i.e., statutory rape.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 02:15 PM (GFM2b)

360 350 BSR,

That's where it's at...

yup if you're still worried about Tardasil or Tard Akin when SCoaMF just said "I may let you keep the 2d but defacto the 4th...look you can't see ANY of my shit but I get to see ALL of yours."

Self nut shot please.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 02:16 PM (LRFds)

361 348 I would like to apologize for the fact that I may, possibly, in a past work life, have attempted to set you on fire with the power of my miiiiiiiind.

You were the chick flicking the lighter? Shit, I thought I recognized you from in there - I was the guy pouring the gas...

Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 02:17 PM (YesJa)

362 OK, I'll trust your research, Tasker. However, I still have my doubts, especially given how votes can be so conveniently "misplaced" in car trunks and other places, or in the case of electronic voting, disappeared into the ether.

What concerns me the most is the psychological impact that TFG's reelection is having on those of us who thought that Mitt's election should've been a slam dunk. I still can't believe that happened.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 16, 2013 02:09 PM (yiIja)


__________________________

Oh trust me--I know about that.

I was in the Florida panhandle during Bush v. Gore and saw the machinations the Dems went through to negate the absentee military vote--funny how they knew the military was not voting for Gore.

Also I know all the crap they pulled to knock off Rossi in Washington.

Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2013 02:17 PM (r2PLg)

363 and with that I'm done with the Perry wars, anyone still complaining about gardasil after seeing the results in november needs to kick themselves in the nuts.
Posted by: BSR: Live from Falls Church at January 16, 2013 02:11 PM (CBCxo)


No one is still complaining about it, g-ddammit. fuck it all. It came up and people were wondering again why it was an issue in the first place.

Forget it. Why am i still here? I said I was going, right? Okay, for real this time.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 02:19 PM (4df7R)

364
"love them or hate them, they aren't Bammy. He's the one who deserves our ire, and his supporters even more so."
Eh, NO! GOP has voted for all the spending, all the bailouts, all the debt ceiling increases... yeah, bammy is bad, but so are they. At least with them they wear a uniform with a big D on it and I know who they are. The GOP is a bunch of backstabbers wearing our uniform! I disagree with Obama, but he didn't stab me in the back.

Posted by: Andrew at January 16, 2013 02:19 PM (A27iN)

365
123
You know, I don't know if the Progressives can be long-term defeated.





Posted by: J. at January 16, 2013 01:24 PM (Q1ykp)

I've slowly come to the conclusion that they can't be. It's been a slow retreat for about 100 years now. What the end game is, I don't know.

Posted by: joncelli at January 16, 2013 02:21 PM (RD7QR)

366 I expect to see you all rioting over Hep B vaccines any day.

It is completely absurd that this, this was your problem.with Perry. An issue that he fucking backed off of when he realized that he was out front of his constituents.

Oh noes! Let's demonize the one Republican in the country who has successfully implemented 10 years of growth and prosperity because he wanted to prevent a very common, yet very preventable, form of cancer. That Jerk!

Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 02:21 PM (wsGWu)

367 "HPV leads to cervical cancer and is entirely preventable. I'd give the same order based on the fact we are subsidizing children having children. And any prole that read the order would know it was opt-outable. Screw anyone who wanted to shitcan Perry for it. As I said. DIAF you ignorant shit for brains. If you like Perry, this was not aimed at you.
Posted by: Invictus"
YOU are the ignorant one.
1) The vaccine may increase the risk of cervical cancer in those treated with it if they have already been exposed to HPV.
2) It isn't a harmless "vaccine"
Google this for starters:
Does Gardasil Actually Increase Your Risk of Cervical Cancer?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Whale at January 16, 2013 02:25 PM (uhftQ)

368 "Oh noes! Let's demonize the one Republican in the country who has successfully implemented 10 years of growth and prosperity because he wanted to prevent a very common, yet very preventable, form of cancer. That Jerk!
Posted by: Lauren "

The "vaccine" isn't. Taking it does not prevent someone from getting the HPV virus or cervical cancer. It MIGHT help, but it's hardly a shield.
It's also been connected to multiple deaths and crippling side effects. This is per J.A.M.A., not just my opinion.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Whale at January 16, 2013 02:31 PM (uhftQ)

369 Rubio / Perry 2016

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 16, 2013 02:33 PM (7h5MH)

370 It prevents the types of HPV that cause cervical cancer, with side effects in line with any other vaccine. Look, I'm 100% prolife and pro abstinence, but almost every.one of my friends in their 20s and 30s have hpv because they were in college before the vaccine came out. These aren't "slutty" women. They're all married, and a lot of them have only been with their husbands...who had one or two prior relationships, and thus brought hpv into the relationship.

But regardless of all of that...Perry backed off. He listened to his constituents. It was the ultimate non issue.

Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 02:37 PM (wsGWu)

371 @305, 311 besides its interstate commerce.

Oh, and no more needing to send a gun to an FFL to finish the purchase.

If they can use the Federal government to enslave us, they can use it to liberate us.

Posted by: Iblis at January 16, 2013 02:38 PM (9221z)

372 72 caustic

just calling you out for the troll you are...new nic...same stink
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:16 PM (CM3km)

You are very weird lady, very weird.

Posted by: Caustic at January 16, 2013 02:46 PM (/b8+5)

373 Why isn't there a bigger fuss over Obama link all gun ownership to Mental Health, and the impetus to initiate a larger discussion about "mental health"?

We also can guess the master database will have to tie into the Obamacare master database now. Which is scary.

That's the problem here....and gun owners are missing it.

Posted by: hjhg at January 16, 2013 02:51 PM (mz/P2)

374 No guns for negroes.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ku4onf

Posted by: Thorvald at January 16, 2013 02:51 PM (1V6Pv)

375 "It prevents the types of HPV that cause cervical cancer, with side effects in line with any other vaccine. Look, I'm 100% prolife and pro abstinence, but almost every.one of my friends in their 20s and 30s have hpv because they were in college before the vaccine came out. These aren't "slutty" women. They're all married, and a lot of them have only been with their husbands...who had one or two prior relationships, and thus brought hpv into the relationship. But regardless of all of that...Perry backed off. He listened to his constituents. It was the ultimate non issue.
Posted by: Lauren"

I was not anti-Perry, but the "vaccine " is incorrectly named. It MIGHT protect against the very strains it was meant to, but it is not a vaccine. It has even been blamed for a number of deaths and crippling side effects.
Look up:
Does Gardasil Actually Increase Your Risk of Cervical Cancer?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Whale at January 16, 2013 02:53 PM (+aCe4)

376 Yeah yeah yeah.

The utter and complete takeover of our once great Republic by a vicious gang of Commie thugs, wiping their asses with the Constitution, grabbing our guns, mortgaging our children's and grandchildren's futures, pitting Americans against each other as "enemies" while coddling our real enemies, 16+ trillion in debt.

But GARDISIL so shut up.

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 16, 2013 02:54 PM (7ObY1)

377 Under the second amendment, neither the president nor the speaker has any authority to limit our rights. It isn't called the Bill of Wants.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 16, 2013 02:58 PM (GfHSl)

378 Editorial in WSJ from a former prosecutor in D.C., about how the total ban on firearms in D.C. didn't work.

Here are the two most important paragraphs:

"The gun ban had an unintended effect: It emboldened criminals because they knew that law-abiding District residents were unarmed and powerless to defend themselves. Violent crime increased after the law was enacted, with homicides rising to 369 in 1988, from 188 in 1976 when the ban started. By 1993, annual homicides had reached 454."

"Since the gun ban was struck down, murders in the District have steadily gone down, from 186 in 2008 to 88 in 2012, the lowest number since the law was enacted in 1976. The decline resulted from a variety of factors, but losing the gun ban certainly did not produce the rise in murders that many might have expected."

Yup. Murder rates went up right after the ban was passed, and murder rates did not go up when the band was lifted.

http://on.wsj.com/VZri8f

Posted by: mr_jack at January 16, 2013 03:03 PM (TMG3G)

379 Don't let him fool you. Boner is justgiving Obama a head fake, whilecraftingthe most humiliatingway to surrender on the debt ceiling.No doubt he believes he's gotObama just where hewants him -by offering Obamagun control in exchange for raising the debt ceilingto24 trillion, he may only need toagree to an increase in entitlement spendingto outfox the president.

Posted by: southpaw at January 16, 2013 03:03 PM (Z2OIC)

380
Federalism- you're either for it or against it. The federal government has no place issuing carry permits.

Not really true in this case. The 14th ammendment exists and is part of the constitution. The purpose of which is incorporation, that all US citizens have the same core rights protected from State and local governments as well as federal.

Posted by: Entropy at January 16, 2013 03:14 PM (TULs6)

381 Love Perry's statement. If only he had remembered the other two government agencies he'd close, he wouldn't have been branded "the retarded candidate" and been kicked out of contention.

Posted by: red speck at January 16, 2013 03:16 PM (9/Ug/)

382 But regardless of all of that...Perry backed off. He listened to his constituents. It was the ultimate non issue. Posted by: Lauren"
He only backed off because he had no choice. He fought until the very end for his position and still thinks he was right. Its not the vaccine as much as it was his use of an EO for this purpose which I have disagreed.

Posted by: polynikes at January 16, 2013 03:18 PM (m2CN7)

383 Perhaps Boehner is trying the Bush canard where he's just going to leave it to the American People to weigh the two sides and decide for themselves.

They seem convinced that somehow the media will be sure to fairly frame the arguments pro and con, and that folks will just figure it out in their favor.

Posted by: red speck at January 16, 2013 03:19 PM (9/Ug/)

384 Next time a serious congressman or senator (aka "not Boehner, Mitchell, or other RINO's) speak about the budget they should have children surround them. Each child should hold up a sign with the amount of debt that they are currently saddled with. Every five minutes the children should change signs, showing how the number is going up.

Last slide, "Please, Mr. President, don't leave me with all of this debt - child abuse is illegal..."

Posted by: RobM1981 at January 16, 2013 03:21 PM (zurJC)

385 383 Perhaps Boehner is trying the Bush canard where he's just going to leave it to the American People to weigh the two sides and decide for themselves.

Perchance, are you referencing "John Roberts' Rules of Order?"

Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 03:21 PM (YesJa)

386 Gee, what do me and Speaker Boehner have in common?

Posted by: Lance Armstrong's Nutsak at January 16, 2013 03:24 PM (azHfB)

387 "House committees of jurisdiction will review these recommendations, and if the Senate passes a bill, we will also take a look at that."

My Washingtonese-English translation-fu is poor . . . is this "Let it burn" in Corrupt-speak?

Posted by: filbert at January 16, 2013 03:24 PM (NaNKB)

388 Why isn't there a bigger fuss over Obama link all gun ownership to Mental Health, and the impetus to initiate a larger discussion about "mental health"? 






Glenn Beck was all over that yesterday. Probably because he knows that he's an easy target to be branded as crazy.

Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2013 03:33 PM (wsGWu)

389 The GOP House will lose badly in 2014 if they do not stand up for Gun Rights. It is that simple.

Notice how the NRA went after Liberal elites who send their kids to armed Schools? That would be a good idea for Boehner.

Disarm the Secret Service, Private Security Companies, and the Police first, then we will talk

Posted by: Jack J at January 16, 2013 03:41 PM (6ztZW)

390 388 Lauren,

as am I and a lot of other people....

somehow Michael jackson..."not crazy"

not liking being beat enough to get PTSD?

"zany nutjob"

assholes

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 04:13 PM (LRFds)

391 "No, there was one reason. The MFM set out to crush him with the aid of some of the Republican Party bosses and too many people blindly followed them.
Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 01:27 PM (53z96) "

QFT. Amen, amen, amen. Romney fucked-up in the primaries, too, y'know. He said the idiotic, "I can't have illegals working for me, I'm running for POTUS!" But he won the primaries because party bosses wanted him to. Along with the majority of Fox News talking heads. Remember when Cain fucked-up? Fox News ran to his defense. But when Perry did it, Fox piled on him. Why did they defend Cain and not Perry? Simple: Cain was a stalking horse for their boy Romney.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 16, 2013 05:28 PM (KL49F)

392 ""In fact, the piling on by the political left, and their cohorts in the media, to use the massacre of little children to advance a pre-existing political agenda that would not have saved those children, disgusts me, personally. The second amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president.""

Translation: Go fuck yourselves, Federal Government.

Posted by: blindside at January 16, 2013 05:28 PM (3Uns6)

393 for me? definitely.....nothing he did ever made me back away from him...i still voted for him in the primary here and he had already left the race....... Posted by: phoenixgirl at work a member of NRA at January 16, 2013 01:28 PM (CM3km)

I voted for him two months after he left, too. I never stopped thinking he was Teh Awesome.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 16, 2013 05:31 PM (KL49F)

394 Perry/Rand 2016?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2013 01:45 PM (piMMO)

Ha, I was just thinking what a great ticket that would be!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 16, 2013 05:39 PM (KL49F)

395
I get that Boehner's process statement is DC coder for..."not going to happen".




Might we note Boehner used the exact same phrasing on his statement about the fiscal cliff bill the Democrats sent him, and that seemed to happen just dandy.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 16, 2013 05:41 PM (kdS6q)

396 Wow, after reading the above quote, I am now a Rick Perry fan.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 16, 2013 05:50 PM (71iUa)

397 Next Obama will be telling us that "Fast and Furious" was an attempt to get gun off the street of the US (to kill Mexicans instead).

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter, M.D. at January 16, 2013 05:59 PM (e8kgV)

398 74 Don't worry, everyone. I got this.
Posted by: John Roberts at January 16, 2013 01:16 PM (tAbBJ)

It's a Tax!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at January 16, 2013 06:29 PM (Khu8a)

399 Before reading Perry's magnificent statement today, I had just read Walter Williams' latest, "Are Guns the Problem?"
http://tinyurl.com/b3jgpbu

In which he echoes Perry's statement: "laws, the only redoubt of secularism" and that we as a society need to go back to what worked in the old days: morals, values, and traditions.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 16, 2013 07:23 PM (KL49F)

400 399 Before reading Perry's magnificent statement today, I had just read Walter Williams' latest, "Are Guns the Problem?"
http://tinyurl.com/b3jgpbu

In which he echoes Perry's statement: "laws, the only redoubt of secularism" and that we as a society need to go back to what worked in the old days: morals, values, and traditions.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 16, 2013 07:23 PM (KL49F)

-----
Thanks, that article was really good.

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at January 16, 2013 08:26 PM (0K4Xj)

401 Drew, the link to Rick Perry's press release is bad.

Posted by: SDN at January 16, 2013 09:32 PM (mZJ8q)






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