DOOM: Naked came I into the world, and naked shall I leave it

DOOOOM

The real debt danger is from people's sense of entitlement. And their unwillingness to make difficult choices. Ultimately, a representative government is reactive, not proactive. Things are the way they are because the majority of the people insist on it.

You know...if I had to borrow 40% of the money I need to pay my bills every month, I’d be fairly alarmed. When you come up a few bucks short at the end of the month for necessary bills, you can cut back: get rid of the cell phone, stop eating out, whatever. But when your monthly nut is routinely running to almost twice what you can pay, you’re kind of out of options. It’s probably time to re-examine your resistance to sleeping outdoors and pooping outdoors, and...well, doing everything else outdoors, because outdoors is where you’re going to be living before long.

Bad news: recent retirees will outlive the Social Security trust fund. Worse news: most of the estimates on the exhaustion of the trust fund (in 2033 or thereabouts) are over-optimistic. Even worse news: there probably is no politically-viable way to fix this problem, hence uncontrolled collapse is almost certain. Good news: wasteland rats are a good source of protein, and The Humongous doesn’t mind if you hunt on his land as long as you pay the proper tribute and stay well away from his precious reserves of gasoline. (If you’re wondering why Democrats resist means-testing Social Security when it’s such an obvious cost-saving measure, here’s why: it would expose Social Security as the pure welfare program it is, rather than the egalitarian “pension plan” it’s always been billed as. Moving to means-test Social Security in effect exposes the whole program as a lie. It becomes just another redistributionist liberal government program, and a completely unsustainable one at that.)

Just a reminder: this jackwagon came within an inch of being the President of the United States.

I never forget that I won life’s lottery by simply being born in the United States of America during this age of the world. I always remind myself that while much of my success is my own doing, a lot of it is simply due to luck and the grace of a kindly and benevolent God. I am not notably smarter or more industrious -- not better in any moral or spiritual sense -- than any random person elsewhere on the planet. My good fortune was in being born an American, where I could bring my unique talents and abilities fully to bear on my own behalf. Our forefathers gifted us with a culture that just happens to be splendidly suitable for raising people up out of poverty, provided they put in the effort to make it happen. It’s not race, it’s not class, it’s not gender: it’s culture.

This story also makes clear that many liberal policy preferences hurt the very people they claim to want to help: the poor. Well-off people have slack; they can absorb financial blows. Poor people can’t. To me, a higher sales-tax means that I don’t buy that new flat-screen TV for the bedroom, maybe, or I forgo eating out at a restaurant once or twice a week. To a poor person, it means having two meals a day instead of three. It means walking instead of driving because you can’t afford gas for the car (or the insurance). It means being chilly all winter because it costs too much to turn the thermostat above sixty degrees.

This is also why I always say that although liberals claim to act on behalf of “the people”, they don’t like actual people all that much. Individual human beings, with individual hopes and dreams. This is why, in spite of more than half a century of failure in social policy, the Democrats keep shoveling money into the furnace. The idea is what counts, and the unearned sense of virtue it gives liberals, not the actual results.

Richard Epstein (PBUH, may he live a thousand years) asks why the Federal government is locking unwilling citizens into Medicare. Answer: Ponzi schemes collapse when suckers quit paying into them. (I’ll bet you didn’t know that if you renounce your benefits under Medicare Part A, you must renounce your Social Security benefits too.) Money quote:

It would take only a few sentences of legislation to reverse this authoritarian excess. For an age that values individual freedom of choice, that correction would take hours to make. But we live in more perilous and politicized times, so it is likely that the matter will never receive any Congressional attention at all. It is a pity how far this country has strayed from its own constitutional ideals on small as well as large issues.

China’s demographic problems make our own “Boomer bulge” seem trivial. Combine the generational imbalance with the gender imbalance caused by the artificial selection (via abortion) of boys over girls, and you have the raw materials for a huge amount of social unrest.

The Bundesbank is repatriating some gold currently stored in the New York Fed. Is this something? The ZeroHedge writer thinks it means that the world’s central banks may be losing faith in each other, but that’s not necessarily the case. It might simply be that the Germans want to hold onto their own assets. In uncertain time it's a good idea to have your most valuable assets close at hand.

Keith Hennessey is a lot smarter than me about the politics of economics, but even so, I find his argument here less than compelling. Basically, he’s trying to get the House GOP to play “bunts and sacrifice flies” baseball with the budget -- give the Democrats their debt increase, but tie it to cuts in spending. This seems unlikely to happen, for two reasons. One: in historical terms, the government spends every dime it is allowed to spend. If it is allowed to spend more, it will spend more. Two: the GOP may not have the unity of purpose or political will to carry through such a strategy, which would require budget fights with the Democrats at three-month intervals.

The Obama Administration announces that the budget will be late. This is against the law, but His Majesty the King Barack Hussein Obama finds this law inconvenient to the Royal schedule. L’etat, c’est moi, declares King Obama, waving a languid hand and commanding the court jester to caper for His Majesty’s amusement.

The Social Security payroll tax holiday ends; low-income groups hardest hit. Many of the people who are complaining voted for Obama, proving that there’s no pleasing these people. They voted for higher taxes, they get higher taxes, and then they complain that their taxes went up. To which I reply: you’re getting what you voted for, chumps. Good and hard. Enjoy!

Roger Kimball: Sandy wrecked my house, but bureaucrats are preventing me from fixing it. This is where Leviathan does the most damage, I think. Tyranny is always a danger in centralized governments, but a greater danger is the proliferation and growth of bureaucracies. The rules become ever more Byzantine, ever more contradictory, ever more pointless, and ever more expensive (both to implement and comply with). The bureaucracies themselves achieve a life outside the body politic: they persist, age after age, irrespective of their political origin. Their sole imperative (regardless of their ostensible purpose) is to perpetuate themselves. They are an amoeba, growing to engulf everything they touch -- not because they are evil, necessarily, but simply because it’s in their nature to do so. They cannot help themselves. Bureaucracies -- lethargic, slow, risk-averse, rules-bound, pedantic, expensive, often causing more harm than good -- are perhaps the very worst creation of human society.

Teh Bernank doesn’t care for this debt ceiling thing at all. Putting an upper limit on how much a government is allowed to borrow is just crazy-talk, apparently.

Peter Morici: You know, I’m beginning to think that a college education might not be such a good investment.

Remember how Germany seemed immune to the problems besetting the rest of the Eurozone? Yeah, about that....

The French would snort some superior Gallic laughter towards the Teutonic chumps to the north, except that, you know, their economy is in the toilet too.

The revenge of the gold bugs: trust in fiat currencies is eroding. The globalization of inflation proceeds apace. This is really all Bernanke’s QE did: it exported inflation to other countries. It was only a matter of time before the other countries fought back.

What is that dread sound I hear? A death-rattle, dry bones knocking together in a crypt? It is the VAT, that destroyer of economies and scourge of prosperity. Flee! Flee! Run for your lives! (Some kind of consumption tax may make sense, but only if two conditions are met: it is a tax on actual consumption, not on production of goods; and it is imposed in place of rather than in addition to the income tax.)

People are raiding their retirement funds to pay for current expenses. I have a limited amount of sympathy for these people as a rule, because these “expenses” are more often than not easily avoidable forms of debt (credit cards, car loans, student loans, etc.). On the other hand: it’s their money. If they spend it, that’s their right -- I just don’t want them to come whining to me twenty years from now, crying that they don’t have enough money for retirement and would I please give them some of my money.You chose to buy an RV and a boat on credit, pal. You chose to send Junior to an Ivy League college to get a degree in Interpretive Dance. You chose to vacation in Europe every summer. I might be willing to listen if your tale of woe includes a massive and unforseen catastrophe, accident, or illness; otherwise...well, I hear that Wal-Mart is always looking for greeters.

Also, note the way the WaPo not-so-subtly bashes 401(k) plans. There’s nothing particularly wrong with how 401(k)’s are structured; the problem is that people don’t leave the money in them alone. It’s called a retirement fund for a reason. If you take out a loan against that asset to buy a boat, the problem is with you, not with the plan. But liberals, as ever, believe they must save you from yourself -- personal responsibility is so over, don’t you know. Much better to let that serious, careful, and fiscally sound entity known as the government manage your money instead. Because if anyone knows how to manage money, it’s the U.S. government.

Yep, it’s all good. No problem here.

ObamaCare: the policy equivalent of poop-sacking your neighbor. Stomp on the flaming bag to find out what’s in it!

President Obama as Judge Smails: “You’ll get nothing and like it!”

Hizzoner Rahm hired some of the best minds in Chicago to study the problem of retiree healthcare costs. The verdict: Chicago is screwed. Solutions? Pshaw! The panel wasn't convened to come up with actual solutions; they were just being paid to state the completely f**king obvious. Solutions are for some other group of suckers to figure out.

Posted by: Monty at 08:00 AM



Comments

1 Doom spelled backwards is Obama. True fact.

Posted by: dogfish at January 16, 2013 08:03 AM (NuPNl)

2 you plan on dying having sex?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 16, 2013 08:06 AM (GVxQo)

3 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 08:10 AM (/eBe8)

4 If you’re wondering why Democrats resist means-testing Social Security when it’s such an obvious cost-saving measure ....

You want to means-test Social Security? Fine. Give me back my money and we'll part ways now. I'd settle for simply not be being fleeced further for my future non-repayment.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 16, 2013 08:11 AM (bS6uW)

5 Thank God there was a kitteh.

Bad news: recent retirees will outlive the Social Security trust fund.

And now we see the genius of Obamacare: People who could live to 85 if they get that one treatable thing fixed won't. Big savings!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at January 16, 2013 08:12 AM (hO8IJ)

6 Monty! I missed ya man. Your feel good posts fill me with hope and sunshine! Keep up the good work.

Obama may be catapulting us into the Doom but the US citizens and politicians (who I do not consider citizens any longer) new this was all going to come to past at least as far back as the 70's.

The 70's I remember talk of the failing SS and the fear of the boomer retirements. The fear of fiat currency. But no one with power took a leadership position.

Our country dies due to cowardice and media.

Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at January 16, 2013 08:12 AM (T/L2Z)

7
Moving to means-test Social Security in effect exposes the whole program as a lie.

The cake is a lie!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 16, 2013 08:13 AM (deKG5)

8 Give me back my money

Lol. It was never "your money." It was always a tax. Get over it already.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at January 16, 2013 08:13 AM (hO8IJ)

9
Heather, it's the PlaceboCare "fix" for that one treatable thing that will keep people from living to 85.

Posted by: steveegg at January 16, 2013 08:16 AM (o44nj)

10 The Bundesbank is repatriating some gold currently stored in the New York Fed.

Would you trust the New York Fed with large amounts of your gold?

Re: the coming VAT, obviously that's where we're heading. The freeloaders need more stuff, and there's only so much to go around in the present scheme. A flat, consumption-based sales tax that excludes staples would be better, so naturally we'll go the unnecessarily complicated, duplicative taxing VAT route instead. More opportunity for theft and graft.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 16, 2013 08:17 AM (bS6uW)

11 You want to means-test Social Security? Fine. Give me back my money and we'll part ways now. I'd settle for simply not be being fleeced further for my future non-repayment.


Social Security was pay as you go. The time to address this was thirty years' ago.

You'll get your full check. You will be able to buy a stick of gum with it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 16, 2013 08:17 AM (g2ldK)

12 Mornin Horde.


You know, whenever there's a Republican president, at least in my lifetime, there always seems to be assassination talk floating around. By crazies, other regimes, etc. Look at Reagan and the two Bushes. But with Clinton and Obama, nothing. 1) Conservatives, for all they're maligned, are simply better people. 2) Algore and Joey Choo Choo. They're better Presidential protection than the Secret Service.


During the VP debate, at a point when Biden was being particularly idiotic and nasty, I looked at my wife, pointed at the tv and said "That man is one heartbeat away from the Presidency." A look of pure horror crossed her face. She'd never thought of it that way before.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 08:19 AM (da5Wo)

13 Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.

Posted by: Patrick Henry, Right-Wing Extremist at January 16, 2013 08:20 AM (JJ0VC)

14 Why would anyone want to renounce their Medicare Part A benefits?

The idea that someone would opt out of Medicare at retirement age is kinda stupid. Let's talk about opting out at the beginning of your working career!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 16, 2013 08:20 AM (UTq/I)

15 So I guess everything that is coming is the big 'F U we won' from the Dems and lefties...

I think there isn't going to be any going back...

We'll just sit back for decades and say 'I told ya so' when everything we preach comes to fruition...

Posted by: TFC3Tweets at January 16, 2013 08:22 AM (bgzAd)

16 I like the new term "Free Shit Army" rather than "sense of entitlement". SOE is too polite for those scabs.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 08:22 AM (53z96)

17 "...This is also why I always say that although liberals claim to act on behalf of “the people”, they don’t like actual people all that much. Individual human beings, with individual hopes and dreams. This is why, in spite of more than half a century of failure in social policy, the Democrats keep shoveling money into the furnace. The idea is what counts, and the unearned sense of virtue it gives liberals, not the actual results..."


Monty, as Robert Moses, a man who ran roughshod over NYC for almost 40 years once said, "I love humanity. I hate people."

That sums up the totalitarian mindset perfectly. For those not familiar with this man, Bing him and see just how he fucked up the city AND forced the Dodgers to leave Brooklyn.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 08:23 AM (XkWWK)

18 On SS I still say NO.MORE.FIXES. That only encourages them to spend more. The next fix MUST be phase it out. Nuke it from orbit.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 08:24 AM (53z96)

19 The cake is a lie!
Posted by: Cicero Kid


Not mine baby.

Posted by: Cake Girl at January 16, 2013 08:24 AM (NF2Bf)

20 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 08:23 AM (XkWWK)


But in his mind, he did everything for the good of humanity (as an abstraction)--good intentions and all that!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 16, 2013 08:24 AM (Cnqmv)

21
18
On SS I still say NO.MORE.FIXES. That only encourages them to spend
more. The next fix MUST be phase it out. Nuke it from orbit.


Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 08:24 AM (53z96)



Just to be sure.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 08:25 AM (da5Wo)

22 20 Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 16, 2013 08:24 AM (Cnqmv)


I don't think he even thought that. He was just a power-mad megalomaniac.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 08:25 AM (XkWWK)

23 Life's Lottery Win???? Being born somewhere in the middle of the country like Kansas around 1870 (in a city). The last of the good years before Wilson, WWI and the beginning of the progressive era.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 08:26 AM (53z96)

24 The next fix MUST be phase it out. Nuke it from orbit.
Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 08:24 AM (53z96)

Blah blah blah Pact Between the Generations blah blah blah just shoot me now.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 16, 2013 08:26 AM (FsUAO)

25 Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson, Right-Wing Extremist at January 16, 2013 08:27 AM (JJ0VC)

26 Monty you are dead on about the "sense of entitlement" and despite my willingness to see people 50 and up get paid, someone has to have the courage to take the hit tjhat's coming.

I thought it'd be us now.

God help the kids.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:27 AM (LRFds)

27 If you’re wondering why Democrats resist means-testing Social Security when it’s such an obvious cost-saving measure ....


Also that whole part about opting out of Medicare A meaning you also opt out of Social Security.

If I'm not eligible for SS in the first place, what impetus do I have to stay with Medicare, which, after all, is a good but not great health plan. As a septuagenarian (or older), if I'm so "rich" that I don't qualify for SS, I can probably afford a plan much better than basic Medicare A and Medicare B.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 08:28 AM (/eBe8)

28 Hey, has anyone else seen this shit that's floating around on the internet, mostly Facebook I think, that Sandy Hook didn't actually happen? That it's all some big conspiracy. There's some video "documenting" questions and inconsistencies. I saw a pic last night that claimed that the lawyer for the whack job in Colorado was on tv as a parent of a kid that got shot in Newtown.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 08:28 AM (da5Wo)

29 Yes CNN wants a VAT, how can the Communist News Network want anything different.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 08:29 AM (53z96)

30
>> Why would anyone want to renounce their Medicare Part A benefits? <<

Because they're anything but free.

Posted by: steveegg at January 16, 2013 08:29 AM (o44nj)

31 28
Hey, has anyone else seen this shit that's floating around on the
internet, mostly Facebook I think, that Sandy Hook didn't actually
happen?

Hey, they're just asking questions, ya know?

Posted by: jeanne at January 16, 2013 08:29 AM (sVFgf)

32 Obama didn't have time to make a sane budget BUT he did have time to go to a holiday inn....


on mars

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:30 AM (LRFds)

33
Armani fashion boss accused of sexually harassing female assistant and 'dropping her pants' in New York office'

Executive assistant Kelle Azzopardi claims she endured months of harassment from ex-boss Laura Giulini

DailyMail




"Showtime - We Make Excitement"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 16, 2013 08:30 AM (kdS6q)

34 AllenG, the whole points of PlaceboCare are that (a) you'll never be a septuagernarian and (b) there won't be any competition for PlaceboCare/Medicare.

Posted by: steveegg at January 16, 2013 08:30 AM (o44nj)

35 When will math genius erg show up to hector us that social security is solvent forevarrrrrrr? Any discussion of that seems to attract him like a housefly to dogshit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 16, 2013 08:30 AM (BOkRL)

36 31 28
Hey, has anyone else seen this shit that's floating around on the
internet, mostly Facebook I think, that Sandy Hook didn't actually
happen?


So we have truthers and birthers. Are these people sandy hookers?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 16, 2013 08:31 AM (g2ldK)

37 4 Blacksheep,

Yup...no no morally you are absolutely correct.

"Good luck"


Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:32 AM (LRFds)

38 This is the most DOOM I've ever seen in one place.

So far.

The Watt's Up With That link is outstanding.

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2013 08:32 AM (sdi6R)

39 Mornin' all.



Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 08:28 AM (da5Wo)

No, but I just searched for the conspiracy. Did you know Anderson Cooper is really a CIA agent?

Posted by: RWC at January 16, 2013 08:32 AM (fWAjv)

40 An elective despotism was not the government we fought for.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson, Right-Wing Extremist at January 16, 2013 08:32 AM (JJ0VC)

41 Stupidity of the NY gun law - You can have a 10 round mag, but if you are caught with more than the maximum allowable 7 rounds in it, it's a misdemeanor.

Squeeze off three. Problem fixed.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 08:32 AM (XkWWK)

42 I am opposed to turning the SS program into just another welfare program for the FSA. As I said, eliminate it.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 08:32 AM (53z96)

43 18 Vic,

The American people had that choice.

The American people chose "faster daddy faster!"

Let it Burn

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:33 AM (LRFds)

44 So we have truthers and birthers. Are these people sandy hookers?


Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk

I was at the beach once and had a sandy hooker. Hurts like the dickens.

Posted by: Bruce at January 16, 2013 08:33 AM (Rdesr)

45 A Quick and Dirty Guide to Putting Gun Grabbers in Their Place, Part II

http://tinyurl.com/a6b99w6

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 16, 2013 08:34 AM (GVxQo)

46 24 HJ,

Yeah pretty much let me translate from the bullshit...."forward my room service bill to grandkids"(of which the fucking boomers have too few)


Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:34 AM (LRFds)

47 part one:

http://tinyurl.com/a3s5ch8

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 16, 2013 08:35 AM (GVxQo)

48 AllenG, the whole points of PlaceboCare are that (a) you'll never be a
septuagernarian and (b) there won't be any competition for
PlaceboCare/Medicare.


Once you make it past your teens, any purely medical malady is highly unlikely to prevent you from becoming a septuagenarian. Short of outright murder, they can't really prevent it. Now, becoming an octogenarian, on the other hand, they can probably just start withholding care in your mid 70s.

"He only has a few more years/months/weeks" will become self-fulfilling prophecy under ObamaCare.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 08:35 AM (/eBe8)

49
I don't think there could be any fix to the social security scheme, er, system.
Especially since disability ( extrnded funemployment ) comes out of it.
Time was, people of the FSA were properly shunned.

My big family's big seven combo birthdays in January party is this weekend, with all invited except the lazy parasite user. She wouldn't want to waste the gas anyway, not having her b-day in January, and won't have to spend her snap money on a frozen pie to let thaw on its side on the counter.

Posted by: Justamom at January 16, 2013 08:35 AM (Sptt8)

50 35 captain hate,

the election is over daddy O is in office.

The math doesn't matter anymore, on the bright side I am fairly certain O will destroy the nation by not confronting entitlements.

so there's that.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:36 AM (LRFds)

51 Hi monty, um, you or pixy or something is causing these posts to come up in a tiny print format. No way to change it on my fone.
Be good to yourself my good man.

Posted by: teej at January 16, 2013 08:36 AM (dmcx3)

52 No, but I just searched for the conspiracy. Did you know Anderson Cooper is really a CIA agent?

Posted by: RWC at January 16, 2013 08:32 AM (fWAjv)


Anderson Cooper? Secret Agent Man? That might be dumber and less believable than the original conspiracy theory.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 08:36 AM (da5Wo)

53 Sandy hooker? Hitting the ball out of the bunker is for the peasantry.

Posted by: President Foot Wedge at January 16, 2013 08:36 AM (NF2Bf)

54 48 Allen G,

Withholding care?

Guy they withhold fucking water.

I know you know just sayin'....BarryGreen is people!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:37 AM (LRFds)

55
Anderson Cooper? Secret Agent Man? That might be dumber and less believable than the original conspiracy theory.


Alice Cooper on the other hand...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 08:37 AM (/eBe8)

56 Guy they withhold fucking water.

Like I said, "He only has weeks to live" will become self-fulfilling prophecy. So will 'days.'


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 08:38 AM (/eBe8)

57
55
Anderson Cooper? Secret Agent Man? That might be dumber and less believable than the original conspiracy theory.

----------------------

Alice Cooper on the other hand...


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 08:37 AM (/eBe


Totally believable.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 08:39 AM (da5Wo)

58 .......... "His Majesty the King Barack Hussein Obama finds this law inconvenient to the Royal schedule. L’etat, c’est moi, declares King Obama, waving a languid hand and commanding the court jester to caper for His Majesty’s amusement."
This thread statement by Monty is the crux of the problem the country faces. We have a King, not a President. A malign Potentate, who wants to be a Pontiff. There's also a bit of madness in him, to spice it all up. In opposition to all of this, a cowardly and self-serving elected body (mostly) who, to be fair, is too stunned by His Majesty's brazenness to offer meaningful resistance. Opposition will have to find brave and selfless people to organize around in order to resist the King. I apologize for the rant. On the other hand, no one will bother to read it, so there's that.

Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 08:40 AM (BoE3Z)

59 32 Obama didn't have time to make a sane budget BUT he did have time to go to a holiday inn....

on mars

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:30 AM (LRFds)


Obviously selling Iilludium Q-36 explosive space modulator to Marvin the Martian ala Fast and Furious.

Too bad the Americans are the only ones who will feel the earth shattering kaboom.

Posted by: RWC at January 16, 2013 08:42 AM (fWAjv)

60 A malign Potentate, who wants to be a Pontiff. There's also a bit of
madness in him, to spice it all up. In opposition to all of this, a
cowardly and self-serving elected body (mostly) who, to be fair, is too
stunned by His Majesty's brazenness to offer meaningful resistance.
Opposition will have to find brave and selfless people to organize
around in order to resist the King.


Oh, great. You just described the 1760s - 1770s.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 08:42 AM (/eBe8)

61 on the bright side I am fairly certain O will destroy the nation by not confronting entitlements.

so there's that.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:36 AM (LRFds)


That's a pretty safe bet because he dogmatically drones on that "We don't have a spending problem". I don't know whether he believes that because he's pretty fucking dumb and lies all the time.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 16, 2013 08:43 AM (BOkRL)

62 Behold Alice Cooper.

Spawn of Satan.

The devils messenger.

Destroyer of children.


http://tinyurl.com/b8xx5vs

Posted by: RWC at January 16, 2013 08:45 AM (fWAjv)

63 56 Allen G,

Like the joke about the guy getting finished off when the 911 operator says, "okay first make sure he's not breathing..."


bam bam bam

"okay now what?"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:47 AM (LRFds)

64 Naked came I into the world, and naked shall I leave it

Be nice if we didn't have to live naked while we're here though.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 16, 2013 08:48 AM (bS6uW)

65 Anderson Cooper is Secret Squirrel.

Barney Frank is Morocco Mole IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 08:49 AM (XkWWK)

66
Damn, I better raise my kids right if I'm going to need them to bring me water!
I already had them with me a lot to care for my MIL.
I hope they remember it, and accept it as their future role!

Posted by: Justamom at January 16, 2013 08:49 AM (Sptt8)

67 YAY!!!

DOOM IS BACK!

Posted by: Pastorius at January 16, 2013 08:50 AM (gMAUH)

68 DOOM: Naked came I into the world, and naked shall I leave it
—Monty



Oh thank God

Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2013 08:50 AM (I2LwF)

69 58 I apologize for the rant. On the other hand, no one will bother to read it, so there's that.
Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 08:40 AM (BoE3Z)


So, okay. I read it. Now what?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 08:50 AM (XkWWK)

70 re: "Anderson Cooper? Secret Agent Man? That might be dumber and less believable than the original conspiracy theory."

It's not a secret that Cooper was CIA in some capacity when he was in college. And they appear to have...uh...set him on his career path.

I don't know what that could possibly have to do with any possible Sandy Hook-related conspiracy, but if I were making one up, I'd use "Cooper's CIA!" in it--because that's true and people instinctively disbelieve it. It's perfect.

Posted by: oblig. at January 16, 2013 08:51 AM (cePv8)

71 Posted by: Justamom at January 16, 2013 08:49 AM (Sptt

The best you can do is model the behavior you hope to get. We went through that with my M-I-L as well as my dad. Hopefully the kids were paying attention.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 16, 2013 08:51 AM (O7Q1u)

72 A heaping helping of DOOM!

Thanks Monty, I am ready start my day.

Posted by: VA Gator at January 16, 2013 08:51 AM (ZZiTD)

73 #23 Vic, you forget that in 1870 you were without antibiotics, surgical advances, and other life-saving advances we have today. Also, no air conditioning, radio, telephone, or any fast ways of communication.

Don't know if I would have survived until 1900 if I had been born in 1870.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 16, 2013 08:52 AM (GoIUi)

74 Anderson Cooper? Secret Agent Man? That might be dumber and less believable than the original conspiracy theory.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 16, 2013 08:36 AM (da5Wo)




No, Secret Agent Man would be Patrick McGoohan

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 16, 2013 08:53 AM (1Jaio)

75 You know who we need for the 411 on conspiracy theories? Mike Hunt. Dude's Douche's an expert.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 16, 2013 08:54 AM (O7Q1u)

76 I have a client who is on every entitlement program known to man. Last month she was excited that her social security had been increased. Last week she was downcast that her food stamps amount had decreased. She had only gained $5 a month. Enjoy it cause it's going to get worse. Can't get blood from a turnip. A simple fact liberals ignore.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 16, 2013 08:54 AM (DoZD+)

77 I posted a lot of "seconds from disaster clips"


Here's a little pick me up to warm a capitalist's heart.....

http://youtu.be/JkD5ciWyE0Q

Maybe NSFW.....

Private Security deals with pirates.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:55 AM (LRFds)

78 I don't think he even thought that. He was just a power-mad megalomaniac.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 16, 2013 08:25 AM (XkWWK)
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Not to mention a racist. The overpasses on the parkways to Jones Beach were made that low for a reason.

Posted by: Nighthawk at January 16, 2013 08:55 AM (RSqz2)

79 "His Majesty the King Barack Hussein Obama finds
this law inconvenient to the Royal schedule. L’etat, c’est moi, declares
King Obama, waving a languid hand and commanding the court jester to
caper for His Majesty’s amusement."
This thread statement by Monty is
the crux of the problem the country faces. We have a King, not a
President. A malign Potentate, who wants to be a Pontiff. There's also a
bit of madness in him, to spice it all up. In opposition to all of
this, a cowardly and self-serving elected body (mostly) who, to be fair,
is too stunned by His Majesty's brazenness to offer meaningful
resistance. Opposition will have to find brave and selfless people to
organize around in order to resist the King. I apologize for the rant.
On the other hand, no one will bother to read it, so there's that.


Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 08:40 AM (BoE3Z)



And we have a media that is nothing but the worst sort of fawning courtiers. Who think it's their job to defend his majesty and destroy all of his opposition

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 16, 2013 08:55 AM (1Jaio)

80 So, this new republic after LIB, how's it going to get credit, pay its war debts?

Oh, great.

Assume the debts the old republic, that's how.

Oh, that's just super.

Posted by: MSM at January 16, 2013 08:55 AM (imtbm)

81 That would be another job I think I'd really enjoy.

I am a good shot, I dislike brigands a lot.

The laws for boats attacked at sea is 'flexible.'

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:57 AM (LRFds)

82 80 MSM,

or you know....tap in to the quadrillion bucks of wealth potential EPA holds hostage.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:58 AM (LRFds)

83 President Barack
Obama’s official armored limo will bear license plates with the pro-D.C.
statehood slogan “taxation without representation” starting this
weekend, the dawn of his second term in the White House, a spokesman
confirmed Tuesday.
"President Obama has lived in the
District now for four years and has seen first-hand how patently unfair
it is for working families in D.C. to work hard, raise children and pay
taxes, without having a vote in Congress,” Keith Maley said in a
statement.





Right on Barry! Show the man about paying those unfair taxes!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 16, 2013 09:00 AM (1Jaio)

84 Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:55 AM (LRFds)

That's a nice pick me up.


I thought armed security on freighters was verboten?

Posted by: RWC at January 16, 2013 09:00 AM (fWAjv)

85 Yay Monty! A nice cup of coffee and my favorite DOOM of the day.

The WUWT article is a real gem of a piece -- I ran into it a couple of days ago and meant to link it here myself, but I lost the tab somehow, probably in the same boating accident that I lost my guns in.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 16, 2013 09:00 AM (ccXZP)

86 http://youtu.be/yhkZwZ2h2uA

and here the Russian navy engages in some Piracy retirement counseling....

why it is almost as though the USN could wipe the pirates right off the goddamned planet.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:01 AM (LRFds)

87 82
80 MSM,

or you know....tap in to the quadrillion bucks of wealth potential EPA holds hostage.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 08:58 AM (LRFds)
The link in the thread about AlGorejeera and his deeds (and his father before him, funnily enough) offer an illustration of just how committed and patient the statists are in subverting the United States. Motivated by destructive ideology and shameless greed, (for power, money and revenge) they set in place the means by which the country subordinated to the rest of the world. What hatred for what we are.

Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 09:03 AM (BoE3Z)

88 Posted by: Miss Marple at January 16, 2013 08:52 AM (GoIUi)


I grew up in the South w/o A/C, I am sure I could take the mid-west. As far as all those advances go if you made it past childhood you would have made it to just about the same age people now do.


As far as radio and TV, then you had local bands playing in the park on Sunday. Beats the hell out of what we have now.


That truly was the golden age of America for "most" of the country.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 09:03 AM (53z96)

89 84 RWC,

"yeah" there's the law and there's the law.

It is restricted and the certs to get permission to bear an armory are strict, on th other hand if we Friedman school capitalists are going to be reduced to not having a nation that practices freedom economically why not put or skills to use for the Corporations in as ruthless a manner as possible?

When I was working in international logistics the guys in Mari business rather than Air cargo I used to chow down with were studying the matter.

The 1990s sucked ass on piracy for people on the African coasts running oil and electronics themes freight.

Piracy costs the world economy ~200-500 bill a year when all is said and done.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:04 AM (LRFds)

90 That truly was the golden age of America for "most" of the country.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 09:03 AM (53z96)
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The only thing I'd be concerned about would be dentistry.

Posted by: Nighthawk at January 16, 2013 09:05 AM (RSqz2)

91 The Unforeseen Social Effects of China’s One-Child Policy

Were these social effects really unforeseeable? Any kind of artificial intervention in natural processes is going to have a marked effect on behavior in the long term. If children born after the enactment of the One-Child Policy act like "Little Emperors," it is probably because they ARE. They're their family's only child, and therefore incredibly precious. If you worry that you may lose your child to Naturally that's going to filter into the child's upbringing and ultimately affect their personality in adulthood.

Combine the generational imbalance with the gender imbalance caused by the artificial selection (via abortion) of boys over girls, and you have the raw materials for a huge amount of social unrest.

Generation of children grow up feeling that they are the Most Important People In the World --> Young Men expect to get a wife, a good job, and prospects for a good future, while Young Women expect to be able to find a prosperous husband instead of settling for the Farm Boy Next Door, or else wish to have careers of their own--> No one gets everything they want (Young Men can't find wives or jobs and have to provide for their aging parents, Young Women must support their aging parents and can't pursue their career or preferred marriage goals) --> Unrest --> Revolution.

Or, to put it more simply, a nation of young men with perpetually blue balls is a nation on the edge of breakdown.

I'm fairly sure that's one of the reasons for all the saber-rattling between China and Japan lately. Nothing distracts a country from its internal unrest better than a littlenationalistic fervor. And NOTHING takes care of population iniquities better than killing off a lot of excess, hot-blooded young men in a war with a long-time enemy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 09:06 AM (4df7R)

92 87 Tubal,

I am more angry at the perfectionist GOP sic Luap Nor Libertarians than the FSA and marxists....of course that is because I have pretty much made up my mind to do all in my power legal and moral to destroy the latter and actually care about the former.

I digress....


sorry

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:06 AM (LRFds)

93 #88 Well, we don't get to choose when we were born, so it's up to us to make our lives what we want, appreciate what good we DO have, and try to improve the bad.

I had a massive throat infection when I was 10. It darn near killed me even with massive doses of penicillin. My daughter needed corrective surgery as an infant.

So, I appreciate medical advances and do not assume I would have made it out of childhood.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 16, 2013 09:07 AM (GoIUi)

94 Private Security deals with pirates.


Posted by: sven10077

Semiautomatic assault weapons AND not using a 7 round mag.

THOSE BASTARDS!!

Posted by: Bruce at January 16, 2013 09:07 AM (Rdesr)

95 If you worry that you may lose your child to

"If you worry that you may lose your child to illness, injury, or estrangement, you're going to do all you can to keep any of those things from happening," is what I was GOING to type before I got distracted. Gomen!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 16, 2013 09:08 AM (4df7R)

96 It's crazy out there. No way this ship is going to keep floating. Too many people drilling holes in it.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 16, 2013 09:08 AM (bb5+k)

97 Once you make it past your teens, any purely medical malady is highly unlikely to prevent you from becoming a septuagenarian.

Steve Jobs and Patrick Swayze would like to have a word with you.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 16, 2013 09:08 AM (ZKzrr)

98 Boned.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're boned at January 16, 2013 09:08 AM (evdj2)

99 The House should use this opportunity to make the President irrelevant to the budgeting process. What is the purpose of any administration submitting a budget to Congress, when the budget is a Congressional responsibility? If the Congress needs executive input into the budget it can obtain testimony from the relevent agencies, otherwise the President's sole power is through signature/veto.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 16, 2013 09:08 AM (nZvGM)

100 If I had a blog, I probably would have posted a rant about TFG's upcoming pronouncement that I am now a federal criminal (or will be, if he has his way).

But I don't. So I didn't.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 09:09 AM (/eBe8)

101 The House should use this opportunity to make the President irrelevant to the budgeting process.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a President that is more irrelevant to the budgeting process than TFG.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 16, 2013 09:10 AM (O7Q1u)

102 93 Miss Marple,

The only problem is we are rapidly nearing a post-antibiotic age I suspect.

The WW1 gen was amazing they had the breeding to make it 40 or 50 then their bodies were very very adpated to being given AMAZING abilities by anti-biotics.

I was born with a wobbly pancreas production, the doctor gave me six blood transfusions to buy me time to stabilize.

I would have died in the 1870s, of course a lot of us would have.

As barky and buds say,
"there's an app for that!'

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:10 AM (LRFds)

103 Steve Jobs and Patrick Swayze would like to have a word with you.

Didn't say it couldn't happen. Just that it's unlikely.

Remember, kids: "The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 09:11 AM (/eBe8)

104 100 Allen G,

Heh....you will recall after he was elected i warned folks they'd have to make a decision on whether or not they'd comply with whatever he did on guns?

Yeah I knew he'd be gravedancing with his newly found contorionist "flexibility"


Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:11 AM (LRFds)

105 Remember, kids: "The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'"

And remember, kid, a 90% survival rate means that you can die.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 16, 2013 09:13 AM (ZKzrr)

106 94 Bruce,

Quite.

"They will never let you have those evil guns!"

Sure they will, you "bribe" er consult the right people, jump through the right hoops the mules will let you carry anything you want.

That in the end is what at best this is really all about "greasy thumbs"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:13 AM (LRFds)

107 Good news: wasteland rats are a good source of protein,


God bless Texas. And He has. We have an over-abundance of Hoover Hogs.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 09:13 AM (GFM2b)

108 BTW, the plan as I'm understanding it from the MSM is that if an AWB is being held up in Congress they will show, one by one, the explicit pictures of dead kids until it is passed.

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 16, 2013 09:13 AM (3ZtZW)

109 105 Ms Radish,

quite....math and stats how does that work?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:14 AM (LRFds)

110 92
87 Tubal,

I am more angry at the perfectionist GOP sic Luap Nor
Libertarians than the FSA and marxists....of course that is because I
have pretty much made up my mind to do all in my power legal and moral
to destroy the latter and actually care about the former.

I digress....


sorry


Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:06 AM (LRFds)
I've toyed with Libertarian thinking - but -it always comes apart for me in the practice. I ranted earlier about an opposition to the King in Washington, that we need to organize an opposition around people who will run the risks that involves. Right now we're a demoralized and discouraged rabble. We need leaders. There always seems to be a current among Libertarians of rejecting strong leaders and leadership. But then again, just my take, and I'm just another moron on the bus. I don't see the strong and, I'll say it, brave leaders to oppose the King coming from the Libertarian camp right now.

Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 09:14 AM (BoE3Z)

111 108 bigby's jazz hands,

No problem it will just make me harder.

Fuck 'em no mercy.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:14 AM (LRFds)

112 BTW, the plan as I'm understanding it from the MSM is that if an AWB is
being held up in Congress they will show, one by one, the explicit
pictures of dead kids until it is passed.


"Just think of all those young lives that could have been saved if the Principal and some teachers had been armed!"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 16, 2013 09:16 AM (/eBe8)

113 Thanks for the anti-piracy pron. That tune with russian vid was catchy.

Posted by: Al at January 16, 2013 09:16 AM (V70Uh)

114 110 Tubal,

Capital L Libertarians are magic thinkers.

Small l libertarians are superstatist' mistresses basically.

The Tea Party needs to make 2009-2010 look like a warm up act.

Like I said I am about 2 days from switching my priority in loyalty to the two groups i identify with politically.

The GOP keeps it up I will push to formalize the Tea party in a way the Luap nor cult never succeeded with the "L" brand.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:17 AM (LRFds)

115 That truly was the golden age of America for "most" of the country.

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Eeehhhh...not so much. In my grandmother's family, two kids died of easily-preventable (now) diseases before they reached adulthood. Another died in a fire caused by an oil lamp. Smallpox and polio carried off quite a few of my grandmother's friends. Every family lost children to disease back then: measles, rubella, polio, whooping cough, scarlet fever, pneumonia. And that's if they didn't die in childbirth, taking the mother along with them (my great-grandmother and grandmother both bore their children at home, and both nearly died of sepsis after childbirth).

My grandfather's father and his three brothers all died in their fifties: one to accident (kicked by
horse), one by murder (long story), and the others to disease (cancer and heart disease). The ladies lived into their seventies, but not in a healthy way: all were pretty much immobilized by rheumatoid arthritis or calcium deficiency. I've lost several female relatives (including my mother) to cancers that could easily be treated or even cured today.

Women were married at sixteen, had several kids by twenty, were old at thirty. Men were broken by low-paying labor. Life on the farm was a fairly boring affair where you got up with the sun and went to bed when it got dark. Music was a rarity, recorded music even more so (my relatives didn't even get a wind-up Victrola until the late 1930's, and didn't have a radio until the war years). My family didn't get indoor plumbing until the 1950's. (In fact, the old privy was still behind my grandmother's house when I was a kid.)

There were many good things about the old times, but in nearly any respect you can think of, things are a LOT better now. People live longer, healthier, more engaged, and more interesting lives. People who are nostalgic for the "old days" forget how miserable things could be then. I'm profoundly grateful to have been born when I was.

Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 09:18 AM (4Pleu)

116 113 Al,

Happy to help.

If the United States stops being a nation worthy of the extra passion we've given her, perhaps we need to give that passion to non nation state actors?

Time to organize.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:19 AM (LRFds)

117 WTF were they taking pictures of dead kids anyway? Fucking ghouls every one of them.

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 16, 2013 09:19 AM (3ZtZW)

118 Something to keep in mind people:


I remember the period of Bill Clinton's Presidency when Janet Reno ordered the attack on the Kook Cult the "Branch Davidians." The mood among various people started growing grimmer and grimmer, and people started making ominous noises.


One of the things which came out of all this grumbling was a sole lunatic bent on bringing retribution to what he perceived as federal excess. He ended up killing 168 people in Oklahoma City.


If you are ever in the presence of people who are grumbling, I would advise you to remind them of this incident, and how it re-energized what was a seriously battered (after the 1994 elections) President. He rallied (with the help of the Media who would not shut up about it) and grew stronger.


We do not want something like this to happen again, so I suggest everyone help tamp down any firebrands of their acquaintance. (If they should happen to run across such.) Of course it might be pointless anyway. The left has been known to create it's "Emmanuel Goldstein s" when it wants them.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 16, 2013 09:19 AM (bb5+k)

119 I just don’t want them to come whining to me twenty years from now, crying that they don’t have enough money for retirement and would I please give them some of my money.You chose to buy an RV and a boat on credit, pal. You chose to send Junior to an Ivy League college to get a degree in Interpretive Dance. You chose to vacation in Europe every summer.

Regarding 401k's. Some of us didn't do any of that. Some of us are the only demographic that it is legally allowed to be discriminatory to. SWMNK. Single White Male No Kids.
Every other demographic wants a piece of my paycheck to finance their lifestyle, and then demands more. Fuck all y'all. No quarter. No mercy.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 09:19 AM (GFM2b)

120 115 Monty,

Thanks for the cogent summary.

This IS the Golden age, and we have a generation that simpers and whines that ANY work is needed and civilization is HARD HARD work.

Our issues are political, not economic. The quality of life is better now for less effort than at any time in the past except perhaps for Eden.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:21 AM (LRFds)

121 Monty you grew up in the South right? The reason I said most of the country is because the South, for both races, was miserable and did not start recovering until the mid to late 60s.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 09:21 AM (53z96)

122 "You know...if I had to borrow 40% of the money I need to pay my bills every month, I’d be fairly alarmed."

Wrong Monty! By that time you would have resigned yourself to stiffing all your creditors by declaring bankruptcy at their expense! Talk to any liberal, ask them when all this borrowed money is supposed to be paid back. Go ahead, ask them... They promptly change the subject and refuse to answer the question.

It's not simply they refuse to consider the unsustainability of their choices, it's that they refuse to acknowledge what they know must happen at some point in the future. It's called theft by fraud, the intent NOT to repay what you borrow. It is a crime unless you are a sovereign...because the sovereign makes the rules for the ruled. Do you get it now?

The Democrat Party is not socialist, it is a mafia, a criminal enterprise that enriches it's elite and supporters today by making everyone else pay.

Posted by: dscott at January 16, 2013 09:22 AM (EYzt8)

123 Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 09:18 AM (4Pleu).........
Sort of like camping out, in Mongolia, all of your short and brutish life.

Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 09:22 AM (BoE3Z)

124
Monty-

When the Doom! stopped, it seemed the end of an era.

Thanks for bringing it back, along with that last post, to keep things in perspective.

Posted by: Justamom at January 16, 2013 09:23 AM (Sptt8)

125 I think you'd be hard pressed to find a President that is more irrelevant to the budgeting process than TFG.

At this point, I'd settle for the house making this presidentin' irrelevant.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 09:23 AM (GFM2b)

126 119 RickB223,

Pretty much, on the bright side if it comes down to that you could always go Ex-pat and compete with the international labor circuit.

I did a lot of ex-pat taxes in Louisiana, Uncle Sam has long reach to screw you over BUT by gadfry once you're free you're free.

I had a guy who had a wife in Bangkok and another wife in South Africa.

Would i do that?

No, but he was a happy little roughneck.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:23 AM (LRFds)

127 Women were married at sixteen, had several kids by twenty, were old at thirty.

Which was true for a subset of the population, but by no means not everyone. The median age at first marriage in 1900 was 22.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 16, 2013 09:23 AM (ZKzrr)

128 But Bernie Sanders said that, as long as we tax those rich bastards at 99%, Social Security will be financially stable for the next 10,000 years!
Could it be that Saint Bernard is full of shit?

Posted by: Rod Munsch at January 16, 2013 09:24 AM (2aB+q)

129 BTW, the plan as I'm understanding it from the MSM is that if an AWB is
being held up in Congress they will show, one by one, the explicit
pictures of dead kids until it is passed.

As long as they get the pics from Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 09:25 AM (GFM2b)

130 And in the 19th century, it was about as common for women to remain single as it is today (I'm not counting divorcees as "single").

http://www.shellyquilts.com/go/resources/read.php?article=old-maid-new-woman

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 16, 2013 09:25 AM (ZKzrr)

131 118 Diogenes Lamp,

I appreciate what you are saying, but I refuse to be held to the "I am responsible for every self-identified right wing nut while the left gets a pass on even acknowledging there are left wing nuts."

I don't tolerate direct threats to the President and have been in a bar fight over it.

I don't tolerate talk of bombings, because I think it is a cowardly method of revolution.

Other than that I just leave or walk across the room.

If the left gets to have Billy Ayers talk about killing 25 million of me and gets a pass, I am not bothered by the media being the media.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:26 AM (LRFds)

132 127
Women were married at sixteen, had several kids by twenty, were old at thirty.

Which was true for a subset of the population, but by no means not everyone. The median age at first marriage in 1900 was 22.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ #NukeIowaCity at January 16, 2013 09:23 AM (ZKzrr)
Life expectancy was about 45 to 50, both sexes included. With all of this, the amount of "Golden Years" time back then was short. Social Security, which came along a little later, didn't mean what it means today. Kind of an unintended consequence caused by the statists.

Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 09:29 AM (BoE3Z)

133 I had a guy who had a wife in Bangkok and another wife in South Africa.

Jeez. I've had two and not at the same time. And that was two too many.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2013 09:29 AM (GFM2b)

134 Please note, when we gave you chumps $1000 worth of your own SS payroll tax money back we TAXED it at your marginal rate. You're just stupid. B+rry and Nancy laughed and laughed. At you dumbasses.

Posted by: whorehouse harry at January 16, 2013 09:30 AM (FGVtX)

135 If the left gets to have Billy Ayers talk about killing 25 million of me and gets a pass, I am not bothered by the media being the media.

Seconded. I'm wasting as much time plotting a Glorious Revolution as I am apologizing for those who actually are--zero. The media and the Left (BIRM) have zero credibility on this matter and even less moral standing; I'm not seeking a fight, but brother, if you pick one, I'm not saving you from yourself, either.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:31 AM (GBXon)

136 Monty you grew up in the South right?

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Wyoming, actually, though my great-grandparents were Southerners. Great Plains farming was a tough gig, particularly when my great-grandparents moved from the South to the high plains of Wyoming (early 1900's). Rural America is still pretty boring if you're used to city amenities (which is why I moved away).

It's striking how many of the smaller farming communities are shrinking. Both in my home state of Wyoming and in Minnesota where I live now, small towns are dying off as young people move to the city. Farming is a sucker's game, but it's the lifestyle that drives many young people off -- there's still nothing much to do in small towns.

Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 09:32 AM (4Pleu)

137 133 rickb223,

He was a dynamo of energy, I don't know if his diet involved "aid" or not but he was in Conus maybe ten days a year.

At the end of the day our loyalty to anything is based on mutual self-interest or blood ties.

This guy was an ex-Navy guy who took his skill set and managed to craft an awkward by my values but productive life.

he has a wife in metro Thailand with a cute daughter, and a farm in South Africa with a blonde and four kids two by him.

Now in my assessment of reality if/when that comes to light he is gonna get killed.

If he can keep the pie tins spinning he has done good service to his genetic forebears b/c he has offspring and he will leave behind something to his descendants.

What more can one really aspire to?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:33 AM (LRFds)

138 there's still nothing much to do in small towns.

The older I get, the more I see it as a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:33 AM (GBXon)

139 Life expectancy was about 45 to 50, both sexes
included. With all of this, the amount of "Golden Years" time back then
was short. Social Security, which came along a little later, didn't mean
what it means today. Kind of an unintended consequence caused by the
statists.


Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 09:29 AM (BoE3Z)

I thought I had dispelled that old saw long ago about "life expectancy". Yes, overall life expectancy was lower then. That is because of the much greater childhood death rate. If you made it past childhood and the dangerous young adult years of wars, your life expectancy was pretty mush the same as today.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 09:34 AM (53z96)

140 Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 09:32 AM (4Pleu)


LOL, and I want to move to Wyoming, but that is because I am retired and do not have to look for work. Wifey will have no part of it because it is TOO COLD.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 09:36 AM (53z96)

141 I thought I had dispelled that old saw long ago
about "life expectancy". Yes, overall life expectancy was lower then.
That is because of the much greater childhood death rate. If you made it
past childhood and the dangerous young adult years of wars, your life
expectancy was pretty mush the same as today.


Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 09:34 AM (53z96)
Okay. Old saws die hard.I just wanted to slap Woodrow Wilson around, a little.

Posted by: tubal at January 16, 2013 09:37 AM (BoE3Z)

142 135 Brother Cavil,

One day when I have a little less paperwork and more time to be serious and thoughtful I'd like to have a chat about loyalty to corporate partners in a trust as if not a replacement a peer of a nation state's loyalty.

If things get as bad as i fear it may be time for the sort of collective stabilization exercises the pioneers engaged in and civil disobedience in the form of wildcat resource exploitation.

There are of course risks, and some of us will be ruined.

We could do amazing things if we politically controlled a few coastal towns and had economic hatchet teams of boom town followers and out of work miners and drillers.

They want to steal our wealth while holding us from new gain?

No problem raise the black flag and fight by work.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:38 AM (LRFds)

143 Despite the obvious advances in medicine and technology, I'd still prefer being born before the Great War.
And that's it for me today. Suddenly, coming to grips with the fact that the America of William McKinley has devolved into the America of TFG depresses me too much to comment any more. Time to lose myself in paperwork.

See you all tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 16, 2013 09:39 AM (zF6Iw)

144 So if Obama had it in his power to issue Executive Orders that could prevent such tragedies as the Sandy Hook massacre, why did he wait for 20 children to be murdered before taking action? The blood of those children are on his hands. I have to assume the kids that he brought down to DC today who shall bespared from Obama's murderous policies do not include any Mexican children?

Posted by: The MFM, If Obama was a Republican at January 16, 2013 09:39 AM (W7ffl)

145 @110
"We need leaders."

No. You are the leader you are waiting for.

If everyone here made it a goal by the end of the year to regularly meet--in person--with at least 5 other like-minded to discuss advancing the cause of liberty, our leadership problem would be solved.

But, we have been conditioned and encouraged to believe the only possible route to change is through the ballot box and elected representatives.

The Constitution was a lease, not a sale. And if we want our power back, we must take it back.

Posted by: MSM at January 16, 2013 09:39 AM (imtbm)

146 Everybody on this site has to lie about Presdent Obama. He is trying so hard to fix the problems Bush created and all you little traitors can do is snipe. Bush lied so bad to the Americon people and you are blind to that fact. Presdent obama will saves this cuntry fromthe greedy and stooped Republi-Losers. We love Presdent Obama and support him to the end. Yeah for Presdent Obama and his lovely familly.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 16, 2013 09:39 AM (48wze)

147 News dump up

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 09:41 AM (53z96)

148 I appreciate what you are saying, but I refuse to be
held to the "I am responsible for every self-identified right wing nut
while the left gets a pass on even acknowledging there are left wing
nuts."



Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:26 AM (LRFds)


My fear is that someone will act as a spark, and rather than accomplishing anything useful, they will, as Timothy McVeigh did, empower him all the more.

Not a good outcome. We should all be vocal (as you have already demonstrated) in denouncing any such thinking or commentary.
Just my PSA for the day.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 16, 2013 09:41 AM (bb5+k)

149 138 Cavil,

Quite....I can find something to do....life is a lot less fun when I am something for FSA to do.

When we went to Ft Jackson last time and our first weekend was ended by a Deputy asking b/c they saw wife in uniform if we knew anything about the shooting in the laundry room....

"nice neighborhood"

Turns out some punk tried to rob a GI who disarmed him shot him in the chest and left the pistol on the unconscious body went to the payphone dialed 911 and left with his/her clothes.

Kid woke up with a broken thumb, nice new scar, and an identifier of "white male with brown hair" to give the cops.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:42 AM (LRFds)

150 148 Diogenes lamp,

Duly noted and was not being snarky either.

It is a lot less fun when the person you have to calm down and warn is you creator.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 09:43 AM (LRFds)

151 142 Eh, I see where you're going, it's the heart of how I've been approaching the Inevitable Crisis. If one assumes the status quo will be status: kaput before long, it's only natural to make plans for the aftermath.

My own situation is...untenable. I won't go into details, but my eyes are wide open regarding my odds, and ultimately I find I have few regrets on the matter in any event. My efforts go into supporting programs that have at least a chance at teaching youth skills and habits that can pull them through what's coming so they can rebuild after, and possibly create and maintain the critical networks for when it's time to pull the survivors together.

I don't personally benefit much from what I'm doing, but at this point it probably wouldn't matter even if I was better off. So I work and pray and hope later generations can redeem our failures. So it goes.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:43 AM (GBXon)

152
"Capital L Libertarians are magic thinkers."

No. Capital L Libertarians are retards. Logic-impaired, useless, self-destructive retards. I wish we lived in a world where we could actually get where they want to go, but we don't. We simply don't.

The fact they as a group couldn't read the writing on the wall in the 2008 and 2012 elections and do the right thing is telling. The lie that Romney and TFG are of the same evil was and is about the most addlebrained idea I've ever heard.

How's it all working out for you, Paulites? Guess it doesn't matter as long as they can get their choom on in their mom's basement.

Posted by: Jaws at January 16, 2013 09:43 AM (4I3Uo)

153
It's striking how many of the smaller farming
communities are shrinking. Both in my home state of Wyoming and in
Minnesota where I live now, small towns are dying off as young people
move to the city. Farming is a sucker's game, but it's the lifestyle
that drives many young people off -- there's still nothing much to do in
small towns.



Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 09:32 AM (4Pleu)

It has been pointed out before that much of the difference between Liberals and Conservatives can be explained by the differences in their typical surroundings. Look at an Election map of the country and you will see that Democrat votes are concentrated in the Urban areas, along with most of the rats and pigeons.

Thomas Jefferson believed in the citizens connection to the soil. I think he had vision way beyond his time period.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 16, 2013 09:44 AM (bb5+k)

154 And yeah, this is my mood:

Silent Running - Mike & The Mechanics

http://youtu.be/ep7W89I_V_g

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:48 AM (GBXon)

155 "Capital L Libertarians are magic thinkers."

No. Capital L Libertarians are retards.


Wait, I thought that was the same thing...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:49 AM (GBXon)

156 Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 09:34 AM (53z96)

Vic, math is hard. Even for morons. And statistics is even harder.

I have banged my head against this wall too. It won't change.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2013 09:49 AM (GsoHv)

157 I ♥ Doom.

Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 09:49 AM (YesJa)

158
@AllenG,

Wait, define "unlikely" and "purely medical."
If you stop providing cholesterol drugs, cancertreatment and maybe some heart attack treatment I'm fairly certain you could at least make a dent in the average lifespan.

It might also be worth noting that the people who make it to 70 sans any purely medical problem also aren't exactly going to be causing the draining of medicare even at 80. So if you really wanted to save costs you'd be specifically trying to withhold treatment for those at a younger age (as they'll be your money pits when they get older too.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 16, 2013 09:51 AM (GaqMa)

159 If you stop providing cholesterol drugs, cancertreatment and maybe some heart attack treatment I'm fairly certain you could at least make a dent in the average lifespan.

Yeah, but that balances against changes in diet and other lifestyle components. Probably a wash though.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:53 AM (GBXon)

160 I cannot believe I missed a Dooooom thread whilst tied up in a meeting. Mendoooooooza!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 16, 2013 09:55 AM (VtjlW)

161 Tell ya what AtC, if you see me get whineymopey again, you can unleash your raptor squad on me.

...no, the rumors I may have worked out a proper taloncure procedure for them are untrue.

...no, just disregard the gallons of nail polish I stashed away...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:57 AM (GBXon)

162
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:53 AM (GBXon)

Hard to say that's true.
I'm someone who lost 40lbs, and still couldn't get my cholesterol under control (damn you genetics).
But the big one would be scaling back cancer treatment. It's incredibly expensive and has a mediocre payout in some cases.(Cholesterol drugs are expensive until they go off patent, then no so much!)
If you just write large said "no more stage 4 cancer treatments" you'd save money and have less people to treat later. I sometimes wonder if we're going that direction. (To be clear it won't be such an obvious cludge as "stage 4" it'll be more like "no drug X" or "No treatment for X cancer after Y diagnosis point.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 16, 2013 09:58 AM (GaqMa)

163 Both my parents were born around 1930, one in urban Casey SC (Columbia), and one in the scrub of rural West Texas. My father had flush toilets, paved streets, and city gas his entire life, my mother had dirt to eat.

It mattered where you were born then, now, not so much.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 16, 2013 10:00 AM (evdj2)

164
"Capital L Libertarians are magic thinkers."

No. Capital L Libertarians are retards.

Wait, I thought that was the same thing...?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 09:49 AM (GBXon)


No, "magical thinkers" does not convey the proper amount of scorn and borderline hatred I have for the millions (apparently) of perpetually-adolescent thinkers of gigantic self-esteem who have now (repeatedly) thrown the good of the country under the bus in search of a theoretical and impossible perfect world.

How a group whose ideals I agree with 90%+ can so piss me off by their real-world actions is the stuff of WTF. Fuck them all with a rusty chainsaw until they as a group grow the hell up.


Posted by: Jaws at January 16, 2013 10:05 AM (4I3Uo)

165 If you just write large said "no more stage 4 cancer treatments" you'd save money and have less people to treat later.

I find myself ambivalent to that, which is where philosophy and personal sentiment collide I guess. Part of me says quit prolonging the inevitable...part of me says fight for any chance...part of me says it's in God's hands regardless...part of me just wants quality of life that near the end. It's a mess and I've already tangled with it once, no wish to deal with it again anytime soon.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 10:05 AM (GBXon)

166 164: I sympathize, but I'm past that anger now. Pointless and unproductive.

Something died in me last November. Can't deny that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 10:07 AM (GBXon)

167 I find myself ambivalent to that, which is where philosophy and personal sentiment collide I guess. Part of me says quit prolonging the inevitable...part of me says fight for any chance...part of me says it's in God's hands regardless...part of me just wants quality of life that near the end. It's a mess and I've already tangled with it once, no wish to deal with it again anytime soon.Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Wrangler at January 16, 2013 10:05 AM (GBXon)I'm a big fan of weighing the options, so I'm not going to make any pronouncements here (too many variables).But this is sort of the point, when Government controls the insurance (which they're going for) they'll start taking away those options to save money.There are lots of people for whom a 30% shot at remission is worth taking, and many private insurances have already built that into their statistical analysises and will pay out. I'd take the bet Government won't. (Because they'll have blown too much money on Gender reassignment or something stupid.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 16, 2013 10:08 AM (GaqMa)

168 Wifey will have no part of it because it is TOO COLD.

---

The cold in Wyoming can be bad, but not as bad as Minnesota. No, the problem in Wyoming (at least on the eastern plains where I lived) is the goddam WIND. It's windy like 300 days a year. And not some gentle zephyr, either. I'm talking about howling gale-force frontrange winds roaring down off the Rocky Mountains. Some nights it sounded like a freight-train going by the house. I've seen semi-trailers being blown completely off the road by huge gusts of wind.

Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 10:12 AM (4Pleu)

169 #152, actually Romney would have done just fine, he wouldn't get a vote on a budget out of me either.

Posted by: whorehouse harry at January 16, 2013 10:13 AM (FGVtX)

170 No, the problem in Wyoming (at least on the eastern plains where I lived) is the goddam WIND.


I have been looking at Worland over on the NW side. Haven't seen any write-ups about wind there.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 10:17 AM (53z96)

171 One of the things which came out of all this grumbling was a sole lunatic bent on bringing retribution to what he perceived as federal excess. He ended up killing 168 people in Oklahoma City.


I grew up one town over from McVeigh. Several months after he did what he did, I gave his sister a light one night in a bar without realizing who she was (we were still allowed by our betters to smoke at that time) and told one of my friends I thought she was too skinny but still pretty hot.

My friends were all "do you know who that IS???"

She had been all over the news. As I recall, they were trying to charge her with being an accomplice.

Guess the little head was doing the thinking that night.

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 16, 2013 10:21 AM (7ObY1)

172 Vic,

The NW corner of Wyoming is very beautiful (that's the Yellowstone/Cody/Jackson corner), but it definitely gets cold there, and if you're not used to the altitude, you can have a hard time with your respiration (especially if you are or used to be a smoker, or have COPD or emphysema). Summer and autumn there is knockout gorgeous, though. Jackson Hole and environs has turned into an enclave for the wealthy, like Aspen in Colorado, but Cody and Powell are still affordable. And other places like Pinedale, Star Valley, Thermopolis (with the hot springs), and Sheridan are nice enough.

Wyoming's small towns are on the verge of disappearing, though. The whole state only has a population of half a million or so, and the population age is skewing older with every year that goes by. Some small towns I remember from my childhood are almost defunct now: Guernsey, Bill, Medicine Bow, Pine Bluffs.

Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 10:27 AM (4Pleu)

173 People are no longer going to outlive the Social Security Trust Fund. Obamacare is taking care of that. See the "Death Panels" section.

And... in a reach across the aisle, Mayor Bloomberg is advocating limiting pain meds for the sick. Isn't bipartisanship great!

/so, you have a cancer. Have an aspirin. Ah, what a Brave New World we inhabit!

Posted by: shibumi at January 16, 2013 10:31 AM (z63Tr)

174 Just dropped by to say that between 2009-2011, I took almost $40k out of my retirement funds to survive 3 years of funemployment. I could not sell my house and could not have made my mortgage payments any other way. Cost me plenty in taxes, but I really thought my back was against the wall. I didn't use any of it to buy anything, just to pay my bills. When you lose a $200k/yr job in an industry where the jobs are gone, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I am lucky now to be in a $130k job and just became eligible for the company 401(k) program, but because I had to take such a large pay cut I can't afford to participate in it until March, when my car loan is paid off. (And no, I did not buy the car while I was unemployed, I bought it the year before I was laid off and my former company paid me a $900 a month car allowance, and if I had sold it later to get out of the loan I would not have had any way to get to any job interviews.) But after that I am going to save as much as humanly possible. Still have two kids to help put through college, but am managing the first one pretty well and the second one won't start until the first one is done.

This recession really, really screwed a lot of people. I know plenty of others who completely drained all their regular savings and then had to drain their retirement accounts trying to stay afloat. Nobody expected this recession to be as bad or as long as it has been. Many of us were saved from being homeless because we had retirement accounts we could break into.

Posted by: rockmom at January 16, 2013 10:36 AM (qE3AR)

175 Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 10:27 AM (4Pleu)


Altitude doesn't bother me. It does my wife though, not so much with breathing, but she gets altitude sickness. But Worland being at 4K ft should be too much of a problem. She got altitude sickness in Virginia City when we were there, that is a lot higher.


And yeah, not very many big cities in WY. Worland only has a population of 4K. We would be leaving a small county here with a population of 70K for that small town which is essentially the population of the whole large county there.


But you know what? I would love it.

Posted by: Vic at January 16, 2013 10:38 AM (53z96)

176 My inlaws are from Sheridan, WY and my M-i-l still has sisters there. It is indeen beautiful, and seems like a nice town, but I don't think I could take the cold either. I need a place with high employment so people have cash to buy the things I make. Texas is looking better all the time.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at January 16, 2013 10:44 AM (wbeNt)

177 >>>Naked came I into the world, and naked shall I leave it

For those of you who can't get enough DOOM, during Obama's third term, Dr. Kermit Gosnell will be pardoned and reinstated as a practicing geriatrician.

Posted by: Fritz at January 16, 2013 10:50 AM (w3+gB)

178 rockmom,

I get what you're saying, and it's why I always endorse what Dave Ramsey says: always have a nugget of savings *outside* your retirement fund that can get you over the hump if trouble comes. (Easier said than done, I know, but that's why it's important to start this fund early). I make it a point to always have at least two months' worth of living expenses saved up, and I think everyone should have at least one months' worth. Even if you only save fifty bucks a month, it wouldn't take all that long to build up that amount of savings. But: you have to leave it alone until you really need it.

Your situation also exposes another fairly new-ish problem during this particular downturn: the lack of "labor mobility". In past times, people could simply haul stakes and go to where the jobs are, as they did in huge numbers in the first half of the century. But the housing bust essentially imprisoned people in their own houses -- unable to sell, unable to move, and with few job opportunities nearby. I know a guy in California who took a job with a two-hour one-way commute, and at a pay cut, because that's all he could get. I think this situation will ease as the workplace environment changes to be more decentralized and virtualized, but it'll take awhile.

Posted by: Monty at January 16, 2013 10:50 AM (4Pleu)

179 178 Monty,

Yup...I am in the position of having to eat a ~750ish mortgage because the government refuses to get out of the way and let the housing market fond an equilibrium.

"underwater loans" ideally could be taken care of by letting banks negotiate for owners to make square what they can and allowing banks to eat the loss as a tax break.....

not being allowed to happen.

Hell they are blowing up a new balloon instead.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 16, 2013 10:55 AM (LRFds)

180 179 Hell they are blowing up a new balloon instead.

When you're a hammer, everything else is a nail...?

Almost feels like these bubbles are not a bug but a...a feat......sigh.

Posted by: akula51 at January 16, 2013 10:59 AM (YesJa)

181 A welcome voice in the wilderness.

Posted by: sTevo at January 16, 2013 11:59 AM (oYHyn)

182 Richard Epstein...he should be on the SCOTUS.

Posted by: sexypig at January 16, 2013 01:56 PM (dZQh7)

183 SECRET AGENT MAN111!!! sECRET Agent Man!!!!They give you a number and take away your name!!! *rim shot*

Posted by: Anderson Cooper, Butt Licker at January 16, 2013 03:32 PM (FGVtX)

184 rockmom...your kids can enlist and four years later Uncle Sam will pay for their college....don't pave their way.

Posted by: torabora at January 16, 2013 03:36 PM (FGVtX)

185 DOOM: Naked came I into the world, and naked shall I leave it
—Monty
You go out of the world the same way you came in....naked and crying.

Posted by: SFC MAC at January 16, 2013 08:10 PM (TLbgU)

186 When it comes to political baseball, I prefer the strategy that got the Angels their first World Series trophy in 2002. I.e., when Barry and the Democrats pitch you shitty ideas, keep fouling those shitballs off into the stands until they start throwing you stuff you can score with.

Posted by: Rich Fader at January 17, 2013 12:46 AM (uwn+E)






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