High Court Orders Arrest of Pakistani PM for Corruption;
"Populist" Cleric Declares "Revolution"

It's really only a matter of time with Pakistan.

The streets of Pakistan were packed on Tuesday, when hundreds of thousands of demonstrators joined the protest called by Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, a self-proclaimed revolutionary leader. Indeed, it was to be his day of "revolution."

He likely wasn't expecting help from the country's highest court, but in the middle of the march, the news suddenly broke that the court had ordered the arrest of Pakistani Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf on suspicion of corruption and nepotism.

...

The order issued by the Islamabad-based court came following hearings in a corruption case in which Ashraf, who has been prime minister since last June, stands accused of having received bribes in connection with an energy project during his stint as minister of water and power from 2008 to 2011. He is said to have purchased property in London with the money he received.

The only good thing here is that this cleric, at least according to this story, is a "moderate" and his agenda is reformist, not jihad.

But... we'll see.

Observers believe [this sudden-superstar cleric] his expensive campaign is largely being financed by the military. His movement has transformed him from being largely unknown into a political superstar in the space of just a few weeks. Since December, he has been using television and newspaper ads to call on Pakistanis to join him on a "long march" against corruption and in favor of election reform.

The trouble with "election reform" in a country of jihadists is that they might actually get to pick their jihadi leader.

I'm very suspicious this guy is a Clean Front for dirty actors.


Posted by: Ace at 07:13 PM



Comments

1 Where can we get some of that "reform"?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:16 PM (deKG5)

2 As I said on the last thread, Ace, it occurs to me that you could really bring in some cash if you were to sell vanity hashes, such as FY/NQ and IM9in.


Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at January 15, 2013 07:16 PM (IlZPo)

3 I smell a Bhutto in the woodwork.

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at January 15, 2013 07:17 PM (QupBk)

4 Can I be first today?

Posted by: L, elle at January 15, 2013 07:17 PM (F3WsD)

5 dammit

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 15, 2013 07:17 PM (QupBk)

6 Frist two threads in a row? Do i get a bisquit or something? Box of ammo, mebe?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:17 PM (deKG5)

7 The trouble with "election reform" in a country of jihadists is that they might actually get to pick their jihadi leader.

Yeah, that.

Posted by: Copts, Alawites, and Syrian Christians at January 15, 2013 07:17 PM (QTHTd)

8 A bag of cheetos, partially eaten.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 15, 2013 07:17 PM (QupBk)

9 dang it!

Posted by: L, elle at January 15, 2013 07:18 PM (F3WsD)

10 The whole world is about to 'spode.

Posted by: Ronster at January 15, 2013 07:18 PM (JgkPs)

11 Cheetos are good!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:18 PM (deKG5)

12 can our Supreme Court do that? They seem to do whatever they want half the time, anyway. Better now than before Barky replaces Clarence T with one of those loons from the Cal Fed Appeals court

Posted by: mallfly at January 15, 2013 07:18 PM (bJm7W)

13 Doesn't Pakistan also have a President and Parliament?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (nGO/U)

14 You know what we need to do.


Just to be sure.

Posted by: Ripley at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (v9Cj5)

15 We are merely peaceful preachers, not oppressors like the Shah and his regime.

Posted by: the mullahs of Qom at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (QTHTd)

16 I'm very suspicious this guy is a Clean Front for dirty actors.

Way to go out on a limb there.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (QKbPo)

17 Man, that Smart Diplomacy just keeps on paying dividends, don't it?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (ADnWI)

18 I'm not worried. We have Smrt Diplomacy at work.

Posted by: Methos at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (hO9ad)

19 "Moderate cleric = not as bad as Satan but worse than Hitler."

Posted by: Truman North at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (I2LwF)

20 It's okay. We've got it under control.

Posted by: the ISI at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (ORGYc)

21 I fear Pakistan may turn into a real mess.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (4cRnj)

22 Pakistan is definitely a top three demon possessed country.

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 15, 2013 07:20 PM (BVkEs)

23 Methos owes me a Coke....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 15, 2013 07:20 PM (ADnWI)

24 "21 I fear Pakistan may turn into a real mess.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 15, 2013 07:19 PM (4cRnj) "

Heh.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:21 PM (nGO/U)

25 Tested, rested and ready to go!

Posted by: Indian Nukes at January 15, 2013 07:21 PM (v9Cj5)

26 Is there no country the Jews won't interfere in?

Posted by: Chuck Hagel at January 15, 2013 07:21 PM (4cRnj)

27
>>>I'm very suspicious this guy is a Clean Front for dirty actors.

We know his left hand is dirty

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2013 07:21 PM (DoRcp)

28 Unless Ashraf is in custody, it's still just an attempted coup.

From the wiki, fwiw: On Piers Morgan Tonight, Musharraf announced his plans to return to Pakistan on 23 March 2012 in order to seek the Presidency in 2013.

Hmm.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 15, 2013 07:21 PM (QupBk)

29 I smell a Bhutto in the woodwork.

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at January 15, 2013 07:17 PM (QupBk)


A butt-o?

Tell me more!

Posted by: Barney at January 15, 2013 07:21 PM (XvHmy)

30
It's not like it's that friggin' hard to choose sides. India over Pakistan? Check. Ghaddafi over Al Qaeda militants? Check. Assad over same? Check. Muburak over 7th Century Murder-Rape Cultists? Check.
These people actively hid Bin Laden. So.... if a very large bomb (or series of bombs) should accidentally fall on their country... ooooops! Butterfingers! My baaaad!

Posted by: Sam In VA at January 15, 2013 07:21 PM (YCvRs)

31 Anyone know the Pakistani word for Reset'?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 15, 2013 07:22 PM (DoRcp)

32 It is a big-ass unknown, but the military has at times been a stabilizing factor, like in the old days inTurkey and Egypt.
.
So he might be less dirty than more.
.
On the other hand, the way things have been going, a nuclear exchange may have just become much more likely.
.
Again, I wish I had stood in bed.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 15, 2013 07:22 PM (YZizW)

33 One reason why Mali is important. That whole Mali, Niger, Nigeria region is the fastest growing region on the planet. Still having 6 or 7 babies per woman.

Most of the population growth in the next 50 years is gonna come from sub-Saharan Africa.

Oh, that's also where our immigrants are gonna come from since they'll be the ones with the excess babies.

Obama has sharply boosted African immigration. It's still low compared to Mexico, but it's rising fast and chain migration will keep it growing for decades.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:22 PM (ZPrif)

34 Yeah, that whole Mayan apocalypse? Not so funny anymore.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at January 15, 2013 07:23 PM (q177U)

35 Maybe we could smother Pakistan with boob bombs.

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 15, 2013 07:23 PM (BVkEs)

36 The only good thing here is that this cleric, at least according to this story, is a "moderate" and his agenda is reformist, not jihad.

Meaning he's got enough education in Western universities to know how to easily fool Western intellectuals. Over and over

Posted by: kbdabear at January 15, 2013 07:23 PM (wwsoB)

37 No worries. We're in the best of hands:

http://tinyurl.com/ag4f7cj

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:23 PM (UOM48)

38 Anyone know the Pakistani word for Reset'?


ری سیٹ ?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 15, 2013 07:24 PM (QupBk)

39 Because NUCLEAR MISSILES.
.
That's why my cortisol levels are up.
.
Also everything else.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 15, 2013 07:24 PM (YZizW)

40 Pakistan isn't your usual jihadi swamp. It's a jihadi swamp, just...different.

There is a lot of residual British culture and there's a lot of immigration to the UK.

In short, it's impossible to know what's going on or what the outcome will be.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2013 07:25 PM (T0NGe)

41 "33 One reason why Mali is important. That whole Mali, Niger, Nigeria region is the fastest growing region on the planet. Still having 6 or 7 babies per woman.

Most of the population growth in the next 50 years is gonna come from sub-Saharan Africa.

Oh, that's also where our immigrants are gonna come from since they'll be the ones with the excess babies.

Obama has sharply boosted African immigration. It's still low compared to Mexico, but it's rising fast and chain migration will keep it growing for decades.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:22 PM (ZPrif) "

Why do we need immigrants in this economy?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:25 PM (nGO/U)

42 looked up his pic. He's the whitest Pakistani I've ever seen.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:25 PM (ZPrif)

43 33
One reason why Mali is important. That whole Mali, Niger, Nigeria region
is the fastest growing region on the planet. Still having 6 or 7 babies
per woman.




Put our Abortionist in Chief right on it. A role he was born to.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:25 PM (UOM48)

44 1 Cicero Kid,

You can either look for it in a new house, or as the Pakis are doing show an absolute willingness to burn the old house down.

The ONLY reason things have advanced to where they are is that FDR rendered our senior citizens and LBJ the poor hostages.

Otherwise at some point everyone would have said "stop" probably in the Carter era.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:25 PM (LRFds)

45 H-bomb fall down

Go boom

Posted by: eman at January 15, 2013 07:26 PM (tBnjP)

46 Frist two threads in a row? Do i get a bisquit or something? Box of ammo, mebe?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:17 PM (deKG5)

You get a big bag of fucks

SO obnoxious, that first shit

Posted by: Eaton Cox at January 15, 2013 07:26 PM (q177U)

47 We don't need immigrants, but we'll get them nonetheless.

Obama has sharply increased African immigration in the name of "diversity". Anybody who object is obviously a racist and will be treated as such by Democrats, the media ... and most Republican elected officials.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:27 PM (ZPrif)

48 Very very disturbing this politician taking bribes thing. How dare they.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 15, 2013 07:27 PM (1Cuor)

49 Wow, it's been such a fucking fantastic day both in news and real life. I can't wait to see what tomorrow brings.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 07:27 PM (GrtrJ)

50 There is a lot of residual British culture and there's a lot of immigration to the UK.

I can confirm this. I was up early (late) one morning in the last couple of weeks and caught the news on BBCAmerica-about how much pride Pakistanis took in manufacturing their own bagpipes.

Posted by: Methos at January 15, 2013 07:28 PM (hO9ad)

51 "47 We don't need immigrants, but we'll get them nonetheless.

Obama has sharply increased African immigration in the name of "diversity". Anybody who object is obviously a racist and will be treated as such by Democrats, the media ... and most Republican elected officials.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:27 PM (ZPrif) "

Not a racist: Obama.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:28 PM (nGO/U)

52
"Most of the population growth in the next 50 years is gonna come from sub-Saharan Africa."

Not so fast.

Posted by: ten-year drought in the Sahel at January 15, 2013 07:28 PM (deKG5)

53 12 MUMR,

Yes but most of the time the President is the Head of state and CinC and the PM is high overlord of state affairs that are diviied up by party.

Their Constitution is a lot like our new and improved version "very flexible."


Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:28 PM (LRFds)

54 War and rumors of war.

Posted by: eman at January 15, 2013 07:28 PM (tBnjP)

55 We got top men guarding our nuclear weapons. Top, bearded, men.

Posted by: Pakistan at January 15, 2013 07:28 PM (4cRnj)

56 It was a mistranslation I tells ya.

Posted by: mayan calendar at January 15, 2013 07:29 PM (QupBk)

57 Yup Tony the tiger Blair decided in his crowning moment of butthurt that if the British people dared endanger his power by vote he'd vote a new people.

So Musharaff is a better Anglic than i am.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:29 PM (LRFds)

58 Oh goody. $51 billion in aid for Sandy just approved.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:30 PM (UOM48)

59 Maybe we could smother Pakistan with boob bombs.
So you're suggesting a nipulear first strike.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 15, 2013 07:30 PM (ORGYc)

60 "53 12 MUMR,

Yes but most of the time the President is the Head of state and CinC and the PM is high overlord of state affairs that are diviied up by party.

Their Constitution is a lot like our new and improved version "very flexible."


Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:28 PM (LRFds) "

Well, since they have a Parliament and a Prime Minister, the Parliament can probably fire the Prime Minister whenever they want to anyway. (And the President is still in place.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:30 PM (nGO/U)

61 In these tumultuous times it's reassuring to know that we have a firm, experienced hand on the tiller.



Oh, Terayzah!

........Lovey...... is this a sail boat or the regular kind of boat?

Posted by: Secretary Purpleheart Horseface at January 15, 2013 07:30 PM (aZ6ew)

62 49 DangerGirl,

well at least you made it home.....

I'm glad...me I am about >-<that sloe to buying a Rig and doing my best to never spend more than an hour in one place if I am awake.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:30 PM (LRFds)

63 Any drought or famine in Africa will be alleviated by US and Europe shipping food and water. Not to mention taking their excess population in the "humanitarian" refugee immigration.

Somalia and Ethiopia had famines -- yet their population boomed.

Weird sort of famine when you end up with more people after the famine than before.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:30 PM (ZPrif)

64 Dead pool for the next country Obama's gonna clusterfuck?

I'm going with Jordan. That would complete the ring around Israel.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 15, 2013 07:31 PM (1Cuor)

65 "58 Oh goody. $51 billion in aid for Sandy just approved.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:30 PM (UOM4 "

That's a lot of aid.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:31 PM (nGO/U)

66 Why do we need immigrants in this economy?
To blow them for their votes after citizenship so the GOP will never lose another election ever.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 15, 2013 07:31 PM (ORGYc)

67 Leading from behind. Iran getting nukes? Why worry, Al Queda will have them first when they take over Pakistan.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 15, 2013 07:31 PM (wR+pz)

68 Skynet figured out all it has to do is rent games and wait.

Posted by: eman at January 15, 2013 07:32 PM (tBnjP)

69 With friends like TFG, who needs enemies. Thing is, teh JEF's policy's are getting people killed over there.

Posted by: sTevo at January 15, 2013 07:32 PM (VMcEw)

70 It's as though the world has realized that there's a substitute teacher in charge.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2013 07:32 PM (NsKzl)

71 60 MUMR,

Yeah sorta but what's happened is if I am understanding correctly, the courts decided to act and they are the islamists, the rebel Islamist strongman decided "hey now is the time to advance our cause let's suspend the Constitution like we have a third of the time since its adoption."

I would mock that notion harder, but I suspect they have a better batting average than we really have on it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:32 PM (LRFds)

72
I fully expect there will be a nuclear exchange in the world before Obama is out of office in January 2017. Either Paki-India, Islamics-Israel, or Nork-SK or Japan.

and then there will be a second exchange; and a third. Because Pax Americana is dead.

Posted by: rd at January 15, 2013 07:33 PM (zLp5I)

73 "Why do we need immigrants in this economy?"

We don't need any immigrants save for a few hundred thousand with top tier STEM skillsets. Needless to say, basically none of these are going to be coming from sub-Saharan Africa. China and India are the places to look for those skills.

The people who do need immigrants, especially low-skilled low-literacy immigrants who have high fertility and who can be hooked into the welfare state starting with the first citizen generation, are the Democratic Party. More clients for their machine.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 15, 2013 07:33 PM (gqT4g)

74
"Obama has sharply increased African immigration in the name of "diversity".

The scamper last monthfor the section 8 housing in Columbus, Oiho were primarily by Somalis.And let's make sure we have African Muslim immigrants, shall we?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:33 PM (deKG5)

75 Immigration hasn't dipped below 1 million per year during the Great Recession and has steadily increased under Obama.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:33 PM (ZPrif)

76
BRING BACK THE BOMB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHJB2wgB1-I

Posted by: GWAR at January 15, 2013 07:33 PM (NsKzl)

77 "66 Why do we need immigrants in this economy?
To blow them for their votes after citizenship so the GOP will never lose another election ever.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 15, 2013 07:31 PM (ORGYc) "

Makes sense.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:34 PM (nGO/U)

78 Arrested for corruption...that's a twist.

Posted by: sTevo at January 15, 2013 07:34 PM (VMcEw)

79 Y'all are over reacting. We can just send them a stern letter. If it seems to be getting out of hand we can always rely on devastating words like "unacceptable".

Posted by: FURPC at January 15, 2013 07:34 PM (0ImZM)

80 Alluha Akboom

Posted by: Hard Right at January 15, 2013 07:35 PM (uhftQ)

81 Can we at least stop paying all these failed Muslim states their foreign aid in US dollars and start using platinum coins instead?

Posted by: L, elle at January 15, 2013 07:35 PM (i5xnd)

82 Skynet figured out all it has to do is rent games and wait.

Posted by: eman at January 15, 2013 07:32 PM (tBnjP)
Yeah, I haven't finished Skyrim, either.

Posted by: Skynet at January 15, 2013 07:35 PM (hO9ad)

83 TFG arrested for corruption and tearing the Constitution to shreds.

My dream.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:35 PM (UOM48)

84 The trouble with "election reform" in a country of jihadists is that they might actually get to pick their jihadi leader.

I'm very suspicious this guy is a Clean Front for dirty actors.



Why, it's almost like you've seen this before or something Ace.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 07:35 PM (GEICT)

85 62
49 DangerGirl,

well at least you made it home.....

I'm
glad...me I am about >-<that sloe to buying a Rig and doing my
best to never spend more than an hour in one place if I am awake.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:30 PM (LRFds)



Tis true, my friend, I did make it home. I'd feel better if I knew the cops arrested that mofo for threats, but I'm not privy to that information. Half tempted to take the risk and stick my pistol in my car for the next couple of weeks.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 07:35 PM (GrtrJ)

86 the court had ordered the arrest of Pakistani Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf on suspicion of corruption and nepotism.

Isn't that kind of a gimmie over there?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2013 07:35 PM (d0Dmj)

87 "71 60 MUMR,

Yeah sorta but what's happened is if I am understanding correctly, the courts decided to act and they are the islamists, the rebel Islamist strongman decided "hey now is the time to advance our cause let's suspend the Constitution like we have a third of the time since its adoption."

I would mock that notion harder, but I suspect they have a better batting average than we really have on it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:32 PM (LRFds) "

Sounds like the court is just doing something the Parliament could do anyway.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:35 PM (nGO/U)

88 There's something wrong.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (5UlAL)

89 Sheppy is giddy just now reporting of another school shooting: Hazard County, KY. Technical college.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (UOM48)

90 Posted by: kbdabear at January 15, 2013 07:23 PM (wwsoB)

+1

Of course, nowadays, anyone with an internet connection who can read English can fool us.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (GsoHv)

91 Yep, Somalis are pretty much the most useless ethnic group on the planet. Uneducated, violent, stupid, Islamic supremacists. Also, very rapey.

And we're importing them by the boatload.
Cause, Diversity.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (ZPrif)

92 It's a good thing those Pakis only have between 50-150 nukes, and an active program making more of them weekly.

Yepper, nuttin' to worry about there.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (ccXZP)

93 It's getting to the point where we should just roll up the door mats, say fuck you to the world, and use the resultant savings to improve our arsenal so that if people fuck with us, we can ensure that they'll never do it again

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (HqXYa)

94
You remember when the media destroyed Bush, asking him all these questions about the names of foreign leaders, just to try to trip him up, make him look like a dumb chimp?

Remember that?

Does anyone think Barry knows what the fuck is going on over there?

Of course he doesn't...the guy just got back from vacation.

But, he really never did...


Posted by: Rev Dr. E Buzz Yannoglanchie at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (ApGOC)

95 With me. I'm not right in the head.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 15, 2013 07:37 PM (5UlAL)

96 "73 "Why do we need immigrants in this economy?"

We don't need any immigrants save for a few hundred thousand with top tier STEM skillsets. Needless to say, basically none of these are going to be coming from sub-Saharan Africa. China and India are the places to look for those skills.

The people who do need immigrants, especially low-skilled low-literacy immigrants who have high fertility and who can be hooked into the welfare state starting with the first citizen generation, are the Democratic Party. More clients for their machine.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 15, 2013 07:33 PM (gqT4g) "

Maybe we could try producing our own STEM human capital...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:37 PM (nGO/U)

97 Despite the Tammany Hall relationship Democrats have with immigrants, I'm not upset about African immigrants at all. Hard-working and not at all interested in what we might call "African-American culture".

Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2013 07:38 PM (T0NGe)

98 Dude, where's my ICBM?

Posted by: FURPC at January 15, 2013 07:38 PM (0ImZM)

99 Link first sentence:

Pakistan has plunged into a leadership crisis.

Hey, we are having one of those too.

Posted by: sTevo at January 15, 2013 07:38 PM (VMcEw)

100 You know how fast you were going there, buddy? I'm gonna have to ticket you.

Posted by: traffic cop at the indy 500 at January 15, 2013 07:38 PM (ORGYc)

101 89 Sheppy is giddy just now reporting of another school shooting: Hazard County, KY. Technical college.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (UOM4


Film at 8! and 830. and 9. Special at 930. Roundtable at 10. Live on scene at 1030. Replay of Special Report at 11. And so on and so on.....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 07:38 PM (GEICT)

102 72 RD,

You're a glass half full guy but I guess technically you are not wrong.

To have an exchange there has to be cross-pollination.

My money is on us getting nailed and not responding.

God forbid that happens I hope they nail a foreign base, but I am pretty sure it'll be a coastal town.

people forget the time last year that the USCG gave a radiological alarm and the NBS teletyped out that there was an interdiction underway.

They spiked it on the news in about 20 minutes uncommented IIRC.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (LRFds)

103 I sense a barrel coming up...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (UOM48)

104

BOX

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (LRFds)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (GEICT)

106 Ah hell

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (GEICT)

107 Call me a racist all you want but I do not want any Muslim immigrants coming here. They are noting but trouble.

Posted by: CarolT at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (z4WKX)

108 To the barrel with you BCochran!

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (GrtrJ)

109 Unstable govt with nuclear weapons. Fantastic!

Posted by: Big T Party at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (WiQr+)

110 BCochran--------------------> you know the drill

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (UOM48)

111 "89 Sheppy is giddy just now reporting of another school shooting: Hazard County, KY. Technical college.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:36 PM (UOM4 "

Fuck.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (nGO/U)

112 Are we still selling pakistan F-16s also?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (9Bj8R)

113 Caveat to #97: You don't want the Muslim variety.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (T0NGe)

114 I'm not upset about African immigrants at all. Hard-working and not at all interested in what we might call "African-American culture".

In this case, African = Somalian + muzzie.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (d0Dmj)

115 Dammit. I had made it so long. Can I atleast hose it out first?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (GEICT)

116 Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 15, 2013 07:37 PM (5UlAL)

It's the long game that counts. The short-term bad news can be overwhelming.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (GsoHv)

117 Joffen, what's up?

Also, will BC1981 report to the barrel.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (ccXZP)

118 97 Amish Dude,

I had a roomate at the boarding house from hell...his name was laurent he was from West Africa...

Great guy if they are all like him great.

I notice they are not doing so hot at home though.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (LRFds)

119 Quote from "Aliens".

Posted by: eman at January 15, 2013 07:40 PM (tBnjP)

120 107
Call me a racist all you want but I do not want any Muslim immigrants coming here. They are noting but trouble.

Posted by: CarolT at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (z4WKX)

What? The hell you say. When did this start?

Posted by: The London Mayor at January 15, 2013 07:41 PM (wR+pz)

121 Don't worry the Preezy will be re-inaugurated Monday. No problem anywhere is to big for Dear Leader.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 15, 2013 07:41 PM (tlhtD)

122 "95 With me. I'm not right in the head.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 15, 2013 07:37 PM (5UlAL) "

What? Calm down.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (nGO/U)

123 I think I'm crazy. I am not handling my shit very well. Seriously.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (5UlAL)

124 We don't need any immigrants save for a few hundred thousand with top tier STEM skillsets.

As somebody whose salary has been artificially kept low because of the immigration flood in the STEM fields, I say we import more lawyers.

Maybe we could try producing our own STEM human capital...

No. We import them. Our education system isn't designed to produce people who can do long division. Good thing we have law schools!

Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (T0NGe)

125 OT, top story on market-ticker.org



You know how I've said that I believe that we're in entitlement trouble as soon as 2019?
I just heard on Kudlow the statement that at present burn rates Medicare runs out of "special Treasuries" in 38 months.
That's three years and two months from now -- or mid-2016.

no citation, but someone might want to check the numbers again just to be sure.

Posted by: Skynet at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (hO9ad)

126 Moderate Muslim cleric?

I smell snipe!

Posted by: logprof at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (StDOM)

127 "97 Despite the Tammany Hall relationship Democrats have with immigrants, I'm not upset about African immigrants at all. Hard-working and not at all interested in what we might call "African-American culture".

Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2013 07:38 PM (T0NGe) "

No. They'll "assimilate."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (nGO/U)

128 Film at 8! and 830. and 9. Special at 930. Roundtable at 10. Live on scene at 1030. Replay of Special Report at 11. And so on and so on.....

Grave dancing on The Today Show at 8:00 am tomorrow!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (d0Dmj)

129 Posted by: CarolT at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (z4WKX)

Okay.

Racist.

Of course....I agree 100% so that makes me....?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2013 07:43 PM (GsoHv)

130
>>>Can I atleast hose it out first?

and ruin the Feng Shui we got going in there? Never.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2013 07:43 PM (NsKzl)

131 So India and Pakistan go splodey by what? End of February?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at January 15, 2013 07:43 PM (Gk3SS)

132 Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2013 07:38 PM (T0NGe)

Come to NYC and see how well they assimilate.

It's a nice thought, but I am unsure that it is realistic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (GsoHv)

133 I'm suspicious of ALL Moslems. I don't think anything good has ever come out of Islam, at least for the last few centuries. This will not end well because (spoiler alert) it never does.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (xjpRj)

134 And how much you wanna bet this "revolutionary" is a puppet for jihadis?

Posted by: Big T Party at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (WiQr+)

135 You might not have a problem with Somali immigration, but all the rape victims of the Somali immigrants might.

I guess the Somali tradition of gang raping adds to the diversity of our rape culture. Traditional American rapes are stodgy, uptight one on one affairs. Somalis bring a vibrant, diverse communal style of rape to America. Yeah Diversity!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (ZPrif)

136 Interesting times.
(goes to buy more food, ammo and guns)

Posted by: Hard Right at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (uhftQ)

137 Joffen, you've been going through a lot. You're overwhelmed and it can make you feel out of control.

Do you have someone to talk to? I've never been much for psychology, resisted it most of my life, but it helped me immensely when I felt I was starting to lose grip. Please get some help.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (GrtrJ)

138 @107 Call me a racist all you want but I do not want any Muslim immigrants coming here. They are noting but trouble.

Um, wha? Can you send a link to reference?

Posted by: FURPC at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (0ImZM)

139 I've spent waaaay too much time reading the fawning comments at the Mrs. O's Fashion blog (dedicated to all things Mooch-fabulous).

This one did me in:

The first lady spent Christmas Eve in Kailua, Hawaii on the phone with
children from across the country as part of the annual NORAD Tracks
Santa program. Can you imagine the excitment of children who find the
first lady on the other end of the line?! Such fun. We can't see much of
the first lady's look in this official White House photo, but her
headband certainly adds a touch of festive sparkle!



Then, there were the gushing comments about how "exhausted" and "deserving" of a Hawaiian vacay the First Family are.


*points finger gun at head*



Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (UOM48)

140 and ruin the Feng Shui we got going in there?

It's right on the dragon's eyeball. Nice.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 15, 2013 07:44 PM (QupBk)

141 Somali have maritime skills, no?

Posted by: sTevo at January 15, 2013 07:45 PM (VMcEw)

142 Lay off the damned Somalis. They are just doing the work that American pirates won't do.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at January 15, 2013 07:45 PM (Mt27M)

143 Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (5UlAL)

Nope, you aren't crazy. The world is a bit nuts at the moment, so everything seems wacko.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2013 07:45 PM (GsoHv)

144 "123 I think I'm crazy. I am not handling my shit very well. Seriously.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 15, 2013 07:42 PM (5UlAL) "

Well, that sounds like some sort of nervous breakdown. Just go to sleep. You'll probably feel (a little) better in the morning.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 15, 2013 07:46 PM (nGO/U)

145 There is no Hazard county, KY. It's Hazard, KY in Perry County. That's where my pa is from.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:46 PM (deKG5)

146 We are truly headed for WWIII, no? After which comes the second American Civil War. God help us all.

Posted by: Chuck at January 15, 2013 07:46 PM (dSkY8)

147 and ruin the Feng Shui we got going in there?

Is that what we are calling it this month?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2013 07:47 PM (d0Dmj)

148 142 Mr. dave,

hey Mr. Dave if we're now a nation of "fuck you anything goes!" I'm willing to learn.

This guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howell_Davis

He's distant kin.

Ahoy

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:47 PM (LRFds)

149 145
There is no Hazard county, KY. It's Hazard, KY in Perry County. That's where my pa is from.




But....Fox....Sheppy....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:47 PM (UOM48)

150 remember this guy who runs pakistan and his wife who got shot were the darlings of all the democrats. The dems and libs were so glad to get rid of Mushariff. Musharff looks pretty damn good to me now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 07:47 PM (9Bj8R)

151 Joffen, one phone call can get you help.

Make it.

Posted by: eman at January 15, 2013 07:47 PM (tBnjP)

152 120 107
Call me a racist all you want but I do not want any Muslim immigrants coming here. They are noting but trouble.

Posted by: CarolT at January 15, 2013 07:39 PM (z4WKX)

What? The hell you say. When did this start?

About 1400 years ago ... be patient.

Posted by: FURPC at January 15, 2013 07:47 PM (0ImZM)

153
How many killed in Chicago today?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:47 PM (deKG5)

154 145
There is no Hazard county, KY. It's Hazard, KY in Perry County. That's where my pa is from.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:46 PM (deKG5



Sheppy is confused Hazard, KY with Hazzard County, GA where them gol-darn Duke boys are from.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 15, 2013 07:48 PM (GrtrJ)

155 There is no Hazard county, KY.

Is too. That's where Bo, Luke, Daisey & Uncle Jessie are from.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2013 07:49 PM (d0Dmj)

156 How many killed in Chicago today?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 15, 2013 07:47 PM (deKG5)

Probably less than were born and conceived so it all kinda evens out

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 07:49 PM (9Bj8R)

157 146 Chuck,

Um this conflict....it is God helping if you read prophecy.

We are to be scourged as a final test of devotion and then Jesus comes home and says, "about the eclipse readiness enhancements...this time I have my sword."

Now Jihadi jim says what jesus will say is "no no no I am not the son of God who is called Allah anyway dumbasses the big mo is the big deal."

They're nice that way...their faith sits in SO well with the jews and ours why it is almost like it is fake, but I digress.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:49 PM (LRFds)

158 Diversity Sucks. Tolerance Swallows.

Posted by: FURPC at January 15, 2013 07:50 PM (0ImZM)

159 Pllffftt.

Posted by: MJ at January 15, 2013 07:50 PM (vl5mg)

160 nood thread

100% porkier

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2013 07:50 PM (UOM48)

161 Sven, terrorize Destin, Florida. They fucking deserve it. Old wound of mine.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at January 15, 2013 07:51 PM (Mt27M)

162 Caught between a straining operations pace and continued budget woes, the surface Navy’s top boss warned Tuesday that his force of 167 ships is drifting ever closer to a readiness drop-off.

Vice Adm. Tom Copeman said the surface fleet was “pretty close” to going hollow in an answer to an audience member’s question at the Surface Navy Association’s annual symposium in Arlington, Va.

“When a combatant commander says a ship’s supposed to leave on deployment and it doesn’t leave on time for whatever reason, then we know we’ve probably gotten there,” Copeman told an audience of hundreds of officers and industry leaders. “And there’s ships right now that aren’t doing it.”

In a speech that centered on the challenges of shrinking budgets, Copeman warned that the surface Navy may need to sacrifice ships in the coming budget battles to ensure the ones it keeps are fully manned and equipped.

So with pakistan, afghansitan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iran, iraq and G-D knows who else going down the shitter, guess it's the perfect time for out Navy to fall apart. Good plan obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2013 07:52 PM (9Bj8R)

163 Radical Islamists infiltrating the American Left since the '60s, you know, the guys who befriended Obama in the '80s. (See the sock link.)

Posted by: andycanuck at January 15, 2013 07:53 PM (ORGYc)

164 123 Joffen,

Take a break it helps.

I needed one.

Now I recognized the movie quote resets, but this ain't a movie and i am under no illusion anything that happens if it all goes to hell will be resolved in 22, 41, or 120 minutes.

I'll probably die broke, doing my best o breathe enough of me in my son that the better aspects of my character aid him in surviving to endure or hopefully rebuild.

That's the bad news.

The good news is we are under no duty to be any better players than the palestinian Authority if we decide it is merited.

Obama and the clintons and carter taught me that.

Get some sleep and remember we do not need to wish the raging clusterfuck on anyone the raging clusterfuck is taking care of itself.

regards,(and best wishes)
sven

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:54 PM (LRFds)

165 144 MUMR,

failing sleep play a really boring MMO....it's like sleep but without the mental recalibration.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:55 PM (LRFds)

166 162 NeverGiveUp,

Hey now I never once said your goals were my goals baby!

//Rear Admiral Gutsy Call III

Posted by: sven10077 at January 15, 2013 07:57 PM (LRFds)

167 Talk about Somalis. The pork packing plant in the little town near my place brought in a batch of them as workers. Really. Muslims working in a hog plant? Go figure.


I met one of them at the bar. Seemed to be quite an urbane, well-educated man, who spoke excellent English. When he mentioned that he was from Somalia, I said something to the effect that it must suck to be there right now (about 10 years ago, now). He leaned over, and said in a confidential manner, "Well, it's all the Jews' fault". True story.


Somalis didn't last long there. Neither did the Suidanese. But the Filipinos are doing fine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 15, 2013 08:01 PM (673KB)

168 The only good thing here is that this cleric, at least according to this story, is a "moderate" and his agenda is reformist, not jihad.

thats what they all say

thats what the JEF said

Posted by: Thunderb at January 15, 2013 08:02 PM (Dnbau)

169 "He is said to have purchased property in London with the money he received."
-
Why are white English people in London better off for having this kind of new neighbor?

Posted by: Chromoly Man at January 15, 2013 09:17 PM (tj/4h)






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