In Praise of Big Bang Theory

I avoided this show for years because of Murphy Brown. Murphy Brown was "about politics," but the extent of the "politics" was insipid references to people who were in politics.

Like, "Gee, I haven't been this drunk since I did tequila shooters with Gary Hart!"

Wocka wocka. You mentioned a name I've read in a newspaper. How political.

I assumed the Big Bang Theory would be exactly like that, but swapping out political references for geek ones -- "Gee, I haven't been this drunk since I did tequila shooters with Gary Gygax!"

But it's not. It's actually smartly written, with some genuine care put into it. Apparently they have an on-staff scientist vetting all the science -- all the formulas, all the references, all the scientific analogies -- that appear on the show.

And the geek stuff is almost all stuff geeks actually talk about (or at least have thought about). Plot holes in movies, time-travel paradoxes, superhero continuity issues. Even when they talk about something that hasn't actually been a topic of geek conversation -- like Raj's contention that mummies are no different than zombies, except with respect to one minor fashion choice -- it's at least in the ballpark of a Real Geek Topic.

I wanted to mention it because last night's show, which should be on demand if you have that service, was a pretty good entry point for people who don't watch the show. It's a solidly above-average episode, if not really in the top ten,* and requires almost no prior knowledge to enjoy -- except, basic idea: Four geeks, three Ph.D. scientists in physics and one engineer, are friends and work at the same university (CalTech, I think); three of them have girlfriends.

The episode is called "The Bakersfield Expedition." Should be the most recently aired one. Or: Thanks to MamaAJ, it's available online right here.

It has a killer punchline at the end I keep repeating to myself. I was going to try to explain the line, but realized how ridiculous it is to try to explain a line that depends 90% of the actress' delivery.

The line's near the end, by the way. The helium-voiced blonde Bernadette says it from behind a closed door. You'll probably know it when you hear it.

Bizarrely, this episode has garnered minor geek controversy by claiming that girls don't read comic books. Online geek-girls dispute that. Whatever -- the girls on the show are not geeks (except for one, and she's not so much a geek as she is socially inept) and they don't read comic books generally.

Damned geeks. Let's kick them out of their frat house and take it for our own.

* All the tip-top episodes star Sheldon, who is both the show's standout actor as far as comic talent and the character written with the most abundant comic potential -- he's sort of Stewie from Family Guy, but with intense OCD and Asperger's.

I think in later seasons they try not to feature him too much and make it a more balanced show where everyone's featured fairly equally; and the rest of them are pretty good and all, but seriously, Sheldon's the star. He's the Kramer, the Stewie, the Fonz.

This one has only moderate Sheldon content but is a good example of the show giving good lines to the other characters.


Posted by: Ace at 06:18 PM



Comments

1 I got a kick out of who Sheldon considers his arch enemy;

Wil Wheaton!

Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2013 06:22 PM (wwsoB)

2 No Rolemaster love or 4th edition hate?

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 06:22 PM (ZSnCv)

3 Penny's tits are sublime.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:22 PM (ly9ZY)

4 Four geeks, three Ph.D. scientists in physics and one engineer, are
friends and work at the same university (CalTech, I think); three of
them have girlfriends
.


So, not terribly believable then.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 11, 2013 06:23 PM (SY2Kh)

5 Wil Wheaton is an asshole

Posted by: Wooga at January 11, 2013 06:23 PM (3bgU9)

6 I was going to snark about this crappy show called "Baywatch," but remembered that I, too, just recently got turned on to BBT because of similar prejudices. So, welcome to the bandwagon, there's a little room here on the running board.

Posted by: letitbeme at January 11, 2013 06:23 PM (4uDUj)

7 that show always comes on after family guy and no matter how may times the tv gets left on it because i'm busy or something it never grows on me. All i know is the guy who plays Sheldon just recently announced he was gay. which i think shocked no one, the real shocker is dude is in his 40s.

Posted by: we are so screwed at January 11, 2013 06:23 PM (BjJOB)

8 The show is great, and Kaley Cuoco is hawt.

Posted by: Big T Party at January 11, 2013 06:24 PM (WiQr+)

9 Definitely one of the best written shows on TV. I arrived at the party late, too.

Posted by: SeeBS at January 11, 2013 06:24 PM (1XKpL)

10 Wil Wheaton : Big Bang Theory
------- : Seinfeld

Posted by: letitbeme at January 11, 2013 06:25 PM (4uDUj)

11 (BjJOB)

HASH ENVY

Posted by: 2 x 4 at January 11, 2013 06:25 PM (ly9ZY)

12 Sheldon and the Spock Transporter toy;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c4hTPzBE9g

Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2013 06:25 PM (wwsoB)

13 >>>All i know is the guy who plays Sheldon just recently announced he was gay. which i think shocked no one, the real shocker is dude is in his 40s.

yeah no one's world is spinning on the gay thing.

But in his 40s? WOW. Does not look it.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:26 PM (LCRYB)

14 It very well written. Though I would say I didn't really like it until I had seen multiple episodes

Posted by: Big T Party at January 11, 2013 06:26 PM (WiQr+)

15 Wife and I have stared watching the show and enjoy it. Kind of reminds us of "That 70s Show."

Posted by: Cricket at January 11, 2013 06:26 PM (2ArJQ)

16 ------- : Seinfeld

Keith Hernandez

Posted by: Newman at January 11, 2013 06:26 PM (ly9ZY)

17 All i know is the guy who plays Sheldon just
recently announced he was gay. which i think shocked no one, the real
shocker is dude is in his 40s.

Posted by: we are so screwed at January 11, 2013 06:23 PM

Yeh, there was a screen door on that closet. I would have been shocked if he was straight.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2013 06:26 PM (wwsoB)

18 Bout damned time. The show's awesome.

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (kld87)

19
Huh. I had heard good things about it a few years back, tried an episode and was so appalled by the laugh track I gave up quickly.

Perhaps I should try again...

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (qkP36)

20 I avoided it just because I think physics is too easy. Seriously, I don't want to be pissed off by the "physics is awesome" crowd.

I'll probably pick it up in a few years.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (T0NGe)

21 I saw the episode with Summer Glau.

It was predictable and formulaic. In other words, a typical sitcom.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (yiIja)

22 The actress that plays Bernadette has teh boobehs

Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (wwsoB)

23 Ace, the full episode is on CBS' web site.

Link in name.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (SUKHu)

24 I do enjoy the Big Bang Theory. It's not a show I have to stop and watch every episode. But every time I sit down, I enjoy it.

And I agree. There's never been a conversation that I've went: No way, a geek like me would NEVER talk about this. Also agree that Sheldon is much funnier than the other three.

Posted by: Shawn at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (/lltO)

25 Corey Feldman got molested as a kid and had a crappy reality show;
River Phoenix is dead; and
Jerry O'Connell keeps impregnating a super model.

So of the cast from Sand By Me, Wil Wheaton is still the biggest disappointment.

Posted by: Wooga at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (3bgU9)

26 This show grew on me....and I like it a lot. TBS shows reruns and on Tuesdays they have 3 hours of it.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 06:28 PM (X6akg)

27 Judging by the number of posts, my first guess for Ace's favorite would have been Breaking Bad.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 06:28 PM (GsoHv)

28
BTW, CalTech is an awesome place. If you're in the area take a walk through the campus, check out some of the libraries, look at the buildings.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 11, 2013 06:28 PM (qkP36)

29 >>>I avoided it just because I think physics is too easy. Seriously, I don't want to be pissed off by the "physics is awesome" crowd.

are you an engineer? Just curious because Sheldon does in fact bash engineers. There's an episode where he visits the engineering department and gushes about how wonderful it is that the state is providing useful work to society's unfortunates.

It's actually pretty funny -- he's not joking. He seriously considers them to be mentally challenged and in need of state-created make-work.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:29 PM (LCRYB)

30 >>Summer Glau.

She's a moaner.

Posted by: Will Folks at January 11, 2013 06:29 PM (ly9ZY)

31
So of the cast from Sand By Me, Wil Wheaton is still the biggest disappointment.

So I'll bet you're relieved he's not in the Big Bang Theory, eh?

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 06:29 PM (kld87)

32 But in his 40s? WOW. Does not look it.

_________________________

Facials.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 11, 2013 06:29 PM (Nfpnr)

33 >But in his 40s? WOW. Does not look it.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:26 PM (LCRYB)


He'll be 40 in March- I was surprised

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 06:30 PM (8sCoq)

34 No, sir, I don't like it.

Posted by: Mr. Horse at January 11, 2013 06:30 PM (4KOF2)

35 Have never watched this show...perhaps I've been missing something?

Are there any hawt guys, blowing shit up?


Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 06:30 PM (fH4X9)

36 are you an engineer? Just curious because Sheldon
does in fact bash engineers. There's an episode where he visits the
engineering department and gushes about how wonderful it is that the
state is providing useful work to society's unfortunates.



It's actually pretty funny -- he's not joking. He seriously
considers them to be mentally challenged and in need of state-created
make-work.





Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:29 PM (LCRYB)

And Wolowitz is an engineer.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 06:30 PM (X6akg)

37 and Alec wins a free upgrade to AoSPrime.
Well done.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:31 PM (ly9ZY)

38 I'm the dissenting voice on this. I tried watching one episode and only made it to the thirty second mark before turning it off and scrubbing the images out of my frontal lobe. I've seen porn with better acting and more believable characters.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 11, 2013 06:31 PM (QkEg0)

39 are you an engineer? Just curious because Sheldon does in fact bash engineers. There's an episode where he visits the engineering department and gushes about how wonderful it is that the state is providing useful work to society's unfortunates.

Mathematician. And, from what I'm told, the Sheldon character would resonate although I suffer from the problem that real-life AmishDude is entirely too well-adjusted, they want to make him in charge of everything. Nothing like the weirdo AmishDude you all know.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:31 PM (T0NGe)

40 Thanks, MamaAJ! I put the link in the post.

If you don't have on-demand, MamaAJ was nice enough to link the episode on-line, at the CBS site.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:31 PM (LCRYB)

41 38
That's how it was for me. But people kept saying how great it was an eventually it grew on me.

Posted by: Big T Party at January 11, 2013 06:32 PM (WiQr+)

42 Though I would say I didn't really like it until I had seen multiple episodes

I also thought it would be the usual Hollywood crap but then my daughter said 'watch it, you'll like it'. It took me a few episodes until I got into it and now think it's the best thing on television, after Jeopardy, of course.

Posted by: Decaf at January 11, 2013 06:32 PM (Kn6sf)

43 >>>I'm the dissenting voice on this. I tried watching one episode and only made it to the thirty second mark before turning it off and scrubbing the images out of my frontal lobe.

It grows on you, as other people have said. The first couple of episodes I was meh, then I started to get the voice of it. (A lot of comedies actually sort of has to "teach" the audience its style before it starts seeming funny.)

Plus, like any show, there are better episodes and there are worse episodes. You might have gotten a dud.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:33 PM (LCRYB)

44 I've seen porn with better acting and more believable characters.

I've always felt the shows with the most believable characters were, Little House on the Prairie and CHiPS. Totally believable.

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 06:33 PM (kld87)

45 >>>I tried watching one episode and only made it to the thirty second mark before turning it off

At :39 into every episode, Penny and Bernadette trib. You should have hung in there.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:33 PM (ly9ZY)

46 It's actually pretty funny -- he's not joking. He seriously
considers them to be mentally challenged and in need of state-created make-work.


Yeah, from a theoretical scientist's point of view, engineers are turning cranks.

Math is about proof. That's the point of the thing. That's how you know anything. Engineers just want the formula or the algorithm.

What they are starting to realize is that a free website called WolframAlpha will do 2/3rds of that stuff for them.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:33 PM (T0NGe)

47 Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2013 06:27 PM (wwsoB)

Is there some unfathomable (to me) reason why this comment isn't dominating the discussion?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 06:34 PM (GsoHv)

48 Time for ace's annual wedgie.

Posted by: The Jocks at January 11, 2013 06:35 PM (Rq+Vo)

49 I've always felt the shows with the most believable characters were, Little House on the Prairie and CHiPS. Totally believable.


I still like the car from Knight Rider.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 11, 2013 06:35 PM (QKKT0)

50 You had me at tits.

Really, this is all that needed to be written.

Posted by: sTevo at January 11, 2013 06:35 PM (SLhOh)

51 Anyone want to start a pool on what when the first comment of "why are you wasting your time talking about tv shows when there is serious work to do" comes up?

I'll bet 100 quatloos on #87

Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2013 06:35 PM (wwsoB)

52 >>>The actress that plays Bernadette has teh boobehs

she does. She sort of has ninja boobies.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:35 PM (LCRYB)

53 Mrs Bosk talked me into watching an episode a couple of weeks ago because her friends love it. I didn't.I think I'm losing my sense of humor in my old age.

Posted by: Bosk at January 11, 2013 06:36 PM (n2K+4)

54 I still like the car from Knight Rider.

Honestly, that was brilliant casting. That guy has a perfect voice to be disembodied.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:36 PM (T0NGe)

55 It was predictable and formulaic. In other words, a typical sitcom.

-----

I don't mind formula when it's well-executed. That episode is one of my favorites, because I just really like how well they do it.

And yeah, the actor who plays Sheldon has the world's best genes; he looks so young!

Posted by: Not Ready's former friends at January 11, 2013 06:36 PM (b+8h9)

56 it is amusing to me that the Onion's AvClub hate hate hated this particular episode as being especially mean to the nerds, and tone death, and stupid.

go figure.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 11, 2013 06:36 PM (QxSug)

57 I still like the car from Knight Rider.

I stand corrected.

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 06:36 PM (kld87)

58 Ace, I haven't even read past the first paragraph, but I know exactly what you mean. I'd never wanted to watch that show either, just seemed lame. But I've casually watched some reruns the last few weeks and you know what? It's actually pretty good.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 11, 2013 06:37 PM (hpYnL)

59 52
Penny>Bernadette

Posted by: Big T Party at January 11, 2013 06:37 PM (WiQr+)

60 Here's the deal - you read Brave New World and I'll start watching this show.

It's amazing how much I've heard about it, will take a look.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 06:37 PM (tVTLU)

61 My wife loves that show, actually watches reruns which is a rarity for her. She's a Sheldon fan. Its ok for me. Wouldn't mind jumpin the blonde chick.

Posted by: Big Chili at January 11, 2013 06:38 PM (p/cQy)

62 After watching "Nest Of Spies" on your recommendation I'll have to pass.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2013 06:38 PM (Rq+Vo)

63 Aw, damn, stupid sock.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 11, 2013 06:38 PM (b+8h9)

64 >>>The actress that plays Bernadette has teh boobehs >she does. She sort of has ninja boobies.

True. But I never get a sense that she's about to slip a nip.
Whereas Penny...

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:39 PM (ly9ZY)

65 Uh, it conflicts with the replay of Discovery's Moonshiners.


Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 11, 2013 06:39 PM (Nfpnr)

66 I read comic books (as did my sisters) from the time I was 7 years old until I got into high school (and even then would swipe and read some of my younger sisters').

I read and owned (alas, gone to the dustbin of history) the first Fantastic Four. I read Spider Man, Green Lantern, Turok, son of Stone, and a lot of others.

The fact that girls NOW don't read comics is simply a sign of the deterioration of our culture.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 11, 2013 06:39 PM (GoIUi)

67 "Bernadette"

http://is.gd/X2SGAn

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 06:39 PM (8sCoq)

68 I say Bernadette has ninja boobies because I can't tell if she has big boobies and is making them seem smaller or smaller boobies and is making them seem bigger. They're a mystery. They're sneaky.

>>>After watching "Nest Of Spies" on your recommendation I'll have to pass.

Aw darn. Hey, try the sequel, please! At least until he meets the Mossad agents.



Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:40 PM (LCRYB)

69 >>>I've seen porn with better acting and more believable characters.

Here here!

It isn't actual geekdome, it's a whacked out caricature of geekdome sterotypes.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 06:40 PM (0q2P7)

70 are you an engineer? Just curious because Sheldon
does in fact bash engineers. There's an episode where he visits the
engineering department and gushes about how wonderful it is that the
state is providing useful work to society's unfortunates.

not sure what the point is here?

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 06:40 PM (xVT49)

71 Even SMOD ships Sheldon/Penny.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at January 11, 2013 06:40 PM (Gk3SS)

72 I'm something of a geek and I avoided the show too, until it popped up on cable reruns.

But I see now it's actually pretty familiar to me and the way geeks talk to each other. For sure, a couple of the guys are extreme, but in a way that's normal tv. All and all, I give it a thumbs up, as far as something to have on tv while I'm browsing the internet (i.e., anything not DVR worthy).

Posted by: Nessuno at January 11, 2013 06:41 PM (KBh73)

73 Also agree that Sheldon is much funnier than the other three.

The other three are too normal and self-aware.

Posted by: Decaf at January 11, 2013 06:41 PM (Kn6sf)

74 I usually find the show only mildly amusing, but last week's episode was very funny and this week's was pretty good too. I wonder if they've added a new writer this season.

Mostly, I watch to track Fat Penny versus Hot Penny.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 11, 2013 06:41 PM (nZvGM)

75
Moonshiners all new season Sunday! Now how is it they don't get caught, their faces are right there, people know them. Show cracks me up though, and it also really shows how intrusive govt regs and costs are.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 06:42 PM (p/cQy)

76 I liked the 1st 45 minutes or so of Nest but then it got kinda redundant. I'll watch the 2nd movie tonight, after the Gold Rush shows.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2013 06:42 PM (Rq+Vo)

77 >>>not sure what the point is here?

I'm not bashing engineers, I'm just reporting a joke. Sheldon, the ultra-proud ultra-egotistical theoretical physicist, looks down on engineers.

he also looks down on experimental physicists and astrophysicists for that matter.

But he's particularly down on engineers.

This is just a joke about the character, not engineers. Relax!

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:42 PM (LCRYB)

78 Meh. I'm not exactly sure what it is about it, but it seems kind of stupid.

Murphy Brown was actually better.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 11, 2013 06:42 PM (nGO/U)

79 It isn't actual geekdome, it's a whacked out caricature of geekdome sterotypes.


----

A geekdome (instead of geekdom) sounds kind of cool. A huge arena where they hold knowledge bowls or make comic book fans fight to the death (or ripping of costumes, or asthma attack, or something).

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 11, 2013 06:42 PM (b+8h9)

80 >Mostly, I watch to track Fat Penny versus Hot Penny.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 11, 2013 06:41 PM (nZvGM)


she does seem to expand and contract, like a variable star

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 06:43 PM (8sCoq)

81 Wil Wheaton and The Wrath of Sheldon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3wxJmjseEg

Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2013 06:43 PM (wwsoB)

82 I have the soul of Amy Farrah Fowler trapped in the body of the little blonde midget. Minus the boobs. Oddly enough, when I explain myself thus in replying to personals, I don't get much play.

I love Amy Farrah Fowler.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at January 11, 2013 06:43 PM (a5ljo)

83 >>>I liked the 1st 45 minutes or so of Nest but then it got kinda redundant.

yeah, admittedly, both movies do this, especially the 2nd. Woody Allen said 88 minutes was the perfect length for a comedy, and that's about right. Both movies push 2 hrs (the 2nd is like two hours 6 minutes). Too long for a comedy.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:43 PM (LCRYB)

84 "It isn't actual geekdome, it's a whacked out caricature of geekdome sterotypes."

Yeah. This is part of it. It's like stereotypes on meth.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 11, 2013 06:44 PM (nGO/U)

85 My parents watch this show religiously and force it upon me every time we come up to visit. Not my thing. I am, however, getting into Burn Notice. Hubby and I watched the first two episodes a while back and I was not interested but we recently decided to give it another shot and I'm really liking it. Plus, Bruce Campbell is always awesome.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at January 11, 2013 06:44 PM (qFpRI)

86 Tickle is always loaded on Moonshiners and I think it's affecting his moonshining decisions.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2013 06:44 PM (Rq+Vo)

87 Is anyone here beyond excited for Archer Season 4 next Thursday.

Again, the nexus of my own geekdom was when I learned that the episode where Archer takes the Canuck back to Canada on the train, the voices of some of the bad guys were our very own Trailer Park Boys!!!

Pure fucking awesomeness.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 06:44 PM (tVTLU)

88 This is just a joke about the character, not engineers. Relax!


-----

Ace vs. The Engineers would be a very good fight for the geekdome.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 11, 2013 06:44 PM (b+8h9)

89 more Bernadette

http://is.gd/eJodCR

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 06:44 PM (8sCoq)

90 This is just a joke about the character, not engineers. Relax!

Engineers are incapable.

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 06:44 PM (kld87)

91 Tried to watch it on CBS' website. Everything was cool until a Windows phone AD locked up the browser.

Windows, so bad it trashes computers it's not even running on.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 11, 2013 06:45 PM (xKC/c)

92 I'm not bashing engineers, I'm just reporting a
joke. Sheldon, the ultra-proud ultra-egotistical theoretical physicist,
looks down on engineers.



he also looks down on experimental physicists and astrophysicists for that matter.



But he's particularly down on engineers.



This is just a joke about the character, not engineers. Relax!

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:42 PM

To truly hate engineers, you must be a construction contractor

Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2013 06:45 PM (wwsoB)

93 OK, I watch about half of the online show. I take it Penny is the tall blonde babe and Bernie is the short blonde babe I'd have to be surgically removed from?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 06:45 PM (yiIja)

94 True. But I never get a sense that she's about to slip a nip.

Whereas Penny...



Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:39 PM (ly9ZY)



Best Penny outfit ever.


http://youtu.be/Vqavhn9TlSg


I love how they dress Bernadette as well and not just for ninja!breasts. What is hilarious is how they play down that Mayim Bialik has a rack and a half herself. IIRC, she actually had breast reduction surgery several years ago. I suppose I should say Dr. Bialik since she has a PhD in neuroscience.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Sheldon/Penny 4Eva at January 11, 2013 06:46 PM (Gk3SS)

95

Oh hell yeah, Ace.

Love that show.

Anything that talks about quantum or other theoretical physics is the bomb.

Posted by: beach drunk at January 11, 2013 06:46 PM (LpQbZ)

96 Hmm. After seeing that picture of Bernadette I might have tune it in. Strictly for research purposes only.

Posted by: Bosk at January 11, 2013 06:46 PM (n2K+4)

97 Like everything about Sheldon, except the writers trying to saddle him with that idiotic 'bazinga'. It runs counter to his not getting sarcasm schtick and besides it's dumb.

Posted by: dogfish at January 11, 2013 06:46 PM (N2yhW)

98 It's my favorite show. I'm a big Amy Farrah Fowler fan. I like Stewart, too.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 06:47 PM (O8DFT)

99

ps -- happy to see a fluffy kitteh cloud unicorn rainbow friday post

Posted by: beach drunk at January 11, 2013 06:47 PM (LpQbZ)

100
Good Smod above, Tickle is a raving alky, I don't even know how the guy functions.

I like the old guy without teeth too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 06:47 PM (p/cQy)

101 I just started watching the reruns - it's in the after-work-sitcom-rerun channel that we USED to watch all the time before kids. Now that they are old enough to watch with us, it's kind of comforting background noise. Hour each of Simpsons, HIMYM, Big Bang. Sheldon is by far the standout, but all good characters. Not on Netflix..pisses me off.

Posted by: Gromulin at January 11, 2013 06:47 PM (SNjPs)

102 ace, no i got it, absoultely love the show and appreciate the perspective. And I'm an engineer. just wasn't clear if that was your point or sheldon's

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 06:48 PM (xVT49)

103 Is anyone here beyond excited for Archer Season 4 next Thursday.

Yo!

BTW, Archer does a formula. They repeat the same line over 5-6 episodes. Example: "Do you not?"

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:48 PM (T0NGe)

104 Jim-Tom and Tickle rock. I like Jeff and Mark...thems some real hillbillys. You come across their still, you'd end up catfish and crawdad food at the bottom of that lake

Posted by: Gromulin at January 11, 2013 06:49 PM (SNjPs)

105 I am, however, getting into Burn Notice. Hubby and I watched the first two episodes a while back and I was not interested but we recently decided to give it another shot and I'm really liking it. Plus, Bruce Campbell is always awesome.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at January 11, 2013 06:44 PM (qFpRI)

Try to pinpoint the exact moment that Gabrielle Anwar gave up her sad attempt at an Irish accent.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 11, 2013 06:49 PM (nZvGM)

106 Gotta love that they have Sheldon's girlfriend as Blossom, who holds a real PhD in a scientific field; she delivers deadpan funnily.

Posted by: dogfish at January 11, 2013 06:49 PM (N2yhW)

107 My mom actually got me into this show. It's about the only thing I'll watch now. Several seasons and not one hackjob political line is also a big plus.


The consistency and continuity from show to show is the best I've seen


Now to read the comments.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 11, 2013 06:49 PM (ROv35)

108 <I>Mayim Bialik has a rack and a half herself. IIRC, she actually had breast reduction surgery several years ago.</I>

Are you thinking of Punky Boobster?

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 06:50 PM (kld87)

109 Oh, the humanities!

Posted by: Dr. Sheldon Cooper at January 11, 2013 06:50 PM (ES9kw)

110 I have to admit I also love Gold Rush.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2013 06:50 PM (Rq+Vo)

111 I love how Tickle is never without a beer in a cozy, my kinda guy.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 11, 2013 06:50 PM (hpYnL)

112 >>>I have the soul of Amy Farrah Fowler trapped in the body of the little blonde midget. Minus the boobs. Oddly enough, when I explain myself thus in replying to personals, I don't get much play.

Damn, that's hot.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:50 PM (BRgmi)

113 The only comics I ever read and saved: Tom Strong, Buffy Season Eight. I'm reading Before Watchmen as they come along, but none of them has been a keeper. The Silhouette issues came close.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at January 11, 2013 06:51 PM (a5ljo)

114 he also looks down on experimental physicists and astrophysicists for that matter.



But he's particularly down on engineers.



This is just a joke about the character, not engineers. Relax!

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:42 PM (LCRYB)

He *really* hates the sometimes girlfriend of Leonard, Leslie Winkle....played by Sara Gilbert, who playd the middle kid on Roseanne. And I just read on wiki that the actor that plays Leonard, Johnny Galecki was also on Roseanne....as was Sheldon's mother, who played Roseanne's sister. And....Lorre was a writer for Roseanne.
Hope that didn't ruin it for anyone......

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 06:51 PM (X6akg)

115 I like the archer Do You Not? joke and most of the running joke.

One joke they do a lot I hate -- because it's so old and beneath them -- is "Phrasing!"

That joke is sooo old and so hack.

Big Bang Theory did a couple of times too. It was never a funny joke, and now it's aged like Nancy Pelosi's rancid cootflaps.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:51 PM (LCRYB)

116 knock knock knock

PENNY

knock knock knock

PENNY

knock knock knock

PENNY

http://is.gd/qV1A1J

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 06:51 PM (8sCoq)

117 Excited for Archer, and Wicked Tuna.

Anyone else laught themselves silly last week watching the Alaska Diving for Gold show? That chick talking about not being able to handle the 10" hose ruined me for an hour.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:52 PM (BRgmi)

118 >>>Sheldon, the ultra-proud ultra-egotistical theoretical physicist,

looks down on engineers.

Where's my Higgs Boson bitch!? You theoretical screwheads have had the Standard Model for what? 50 years now? I could be building warp engines if you could be bothered to get off your ass and verify some theory and expound upon method of action, maybe explain some dark energy BUT NOOO!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 06:52 PM (0q2P7)

119 I suppose I should say Dr. Bialik since she has a PhD in neuroscience.

Not really. Basically, Ph.D.s are not acknowledged outside of the field or academic settings.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (T0NGe)

120 106 Gotta love that they have Sheldon's girlfriend as Blossom, who holds a real PhD in a scientific field; she delivers deadpan funnily.


-----

I think they had Winnie from The Wonder Years (she also grew up into some kind of intimidating brainiac, but also hawt) on one episode. I kind of would've preferred her to Blossom. I really don't think she's as funny as the other actors.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (b+8h9)

121 Also funny how Wolfowitz is the low man on the academic totem pole (masters to everyone else's PhD) and his GF Bernadette is brainy-er than him too. Though he is the practical-builder.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (BAS5M)

122 Whodathunkit? DC prosecutor who gave David Gregory a mulligan on gun felony turns out to be a pal of Gregory's wife


http://is.gd/zFegV1

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (8sCoq)

123 Try to pinpoint the exact moment that Gabrielle Anwar gave up her sad attempt at an Irish accent.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 11, 2013 06:49 PM (nZvGM)


I think that chick is British, actually. I think she's trying to cover her accent up in the show.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (qFpRI)

124 Nancy Pelosi's rancid cootflaps

Oh dear. You do turn a phrase.

Posted by: dogfish at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (N2yhW)

125 >>>Where's my Higgs Boson bitch!? You theoretical screwheads have had the Standard Model for what? 50 years now? I could be building warp engines if you could be bothered to get off your ass and verify some theory and expound upon method of action, maybe explain some dark energy BUT NOOO!

that argument has in fact been made on the show.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (LCRYB)

126 >>Tried to watch it on CBS' website. Everything was cool until a Windows phone AD locked up the browser.


I'm not getting ads...

Watched it. Laughed a few times. Not bad.

Been a while since I watched a comedy...since Charlie Sheen hit his girlfriend or whatever.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (SUKHu)

127
A guy who used to be my boss (and was French) was extremely similar to Sheldon certain mannerisms. The show is very funny to me. Several of my present co-workers agree that Sheldon was like the guy we used to work for.

And he was actually an OK guy, it's just that he looked like Sheldon and had a lot of the same mannerisms.

There are a lot of episodic aspects to the show, like when Penny has a different boyfriend, and their interactions (the boyfriend is invariably dumb).

When Sheldon the genius tries to learn to drive. When Sheldon broke up with his equally nerdy and brilliant girlfriend and started to adopt cats, and his mother (a normal person) solved the dilemna.

Very funny show watching people written to bewell above normal IQ struggle with life. It grows on you.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (RFeQD)

128 ace, I do believe this will give you better perspective on Bernadette's rack.

http://youtu.be/4Zo2pJwUlW0

C'mon, strawberries, take one for the team!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Sheldon/Penny 4Eva at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (Gk3SS)

129 I don't know, I think I'd rather watch an episode of Duck Dynasty hunting beavers at night and stumbling up on the Moonshiners.

Posted by: wth at January 11, 2013 06:54 PM (wAQA5)

130 if this show were called the gang bang theory, I'd probably watch it. That said, I won't because I find the premise of the show douchey to the extreme and almost as untolberable as Wil Weaton himself.

Posted by: TBIK at January 11, 2013 06:54 PM (q9DYD)

131 When the girls said they'd never read a comic, I thought, what, not even Archie comics?

Posted by: Dickie Dukakis at January 11, 2013 06:54 PM (C2jTf)

132 Bering Sea Gold? I think that's its name...

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:54 PM (BRgmi)

133
I did notice not long ago that Storage Wars got busted for planting stuff that these people supposedly found, which I always suspected. Used to watch that a bunch, a ton of take offs on it now.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 06:54 PM (p/cQy)

134 it is frequently pointed out that not a one of Sheldon's theories has a lick of experimental evidence behind it, nor has one of them resulted in any tangible advancement of any other science.

I forget Sheldon's response. I think maybe he just gets angry.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 06:54 PM (LCRYB)

135 Amishdude:

Subconciously I have noticed that, but I am going to have to look for that pattern over the episodes.

Sounds like time for some drunk fun research.

Btw, I have taken to drinking port, and holy sweet shit is it stronger than I think. Drink 3/4 a bottle of that, and while I like it better than the wine, and it looks just like wine, that will fuck you up quite a bit.

It is strange to drink what seems like wine, which is usually no prob, but then wake up with a killer hangover...

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 06:55 PM (tVTLU)

136 One joke they do a lot I hate -- because it's so old and beneath them -- is "Phrasing!"

That joke is sooo old and so hack.


But if you note, they did it for a stretch and then moved on.

The timing also makes it work. Archer usually says it before the person stops speaking.

Look for a new spate of wordplay in the new season.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:55 PM (T0NGe)

137 woogs, I apologize. I totally forgot about the whole Will Wheaton thing on BBT. my bad.

*facepalm*

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 06:56 PM (kld87)

138 it is frequently pointed out that not a one of Sheldon's theories has a lick of experimental evidence behind it

The real world is a special case.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:56 PM (T0NGe)

139 Guy Mohawk,

Seriously?? Storage Wars Texas is a disaster, I want all of them to go bankrupt.

New York looks like another clusterfuck as well.


Brandi does playboy, she'll make a million easy.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 06:56 PM (tVTLU)

140 Not really. Basically, Ph.D.s are not acknowledged outside of the field or academic settings.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:53 PM (T0NGe



For fuck's sake. You do get I was simply trying to point out that she is, in real life, very brilliant.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Sheldon/Penny 4Eva at January 11, 2013 06:56 PM (Gk3SS)

141 NR Pax said:I'm the dissenting voice on this. I tried watching
one episode and only made it to the thirty second mark before turning it
off and scrubbing the images out of my frontal lobe. I've seen porn
with better acting and more believable characters.


Agreed as well.

Oddly, I think Ace did hit it close to the mark with his initial Murphy Brown critique. It's more scientific name dropping and ridiculous stereotype enhancing than anything.

Which somewhat annoys me as it's not exactly better than the absolute dearth of 'mainstream' science in the cultural zeitgeist since the 1970s as you're just reinforcing silly stereotypes of what intelligent people act like (hint: they don't), the virtual caste/niche roles they occupy, how they interact with 'normal' people. Hint: they're not laughing with you...

It's kinda sickening, besides, the correlation between IQ/g and how closely you map to how the pukes on this show act is not what you think it is.


Richard Feynman would smack anyone on the cast.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 11, 2013 06:57 PM (jhI6f)

142

This is just a joke about the character, not engineers. Relax!


Not funny!

Posted by: True Conservative Engineers who knew that months ago! at January 11, 2013 06:57 PM (0WLla)

143 I prefer Penny's PJ outfits...

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 11, 2013 06:57 PM (QxSug)

144 132
Bering Sea Gold? I think that's its name...

Posted by: garrett


Yeah, that's it. The lone chick on the show has a nice rack but limited diving skills, which come handy, when diving.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2013 06:57 PM (Rq+Vo)

145 Am I the only person who watches Haven? Never heard anyone, real or inside my computer, mention it.

I like that show. But it helps to start at the beginning and you'd have to either get discs from Netflix or pay actual money to Amazon for it right now.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 06:57 PM (SUKHu)

146 You too can look young like the actor that plays Sheldon...... you just have to have stem cells injectedinto your a........... nevermind.

Posted by: I denounce myself! at January 11, 2013 06:57 PM (zBEe6)

147 "It isn't actual geekdom"

i don't know about that. have some pretty good friends that went to MIT or Cal Tech and all occasionally hang together. the show really is almost spot on. the chicks are what stretches credulity.

Posted by: matt foley at January 11, 2013 06:58 PM (ES9kw)

148 I like when Sheldon got jealous of Leonard and smacked him with his toy train: Amy is not for you!

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 06:58 PM (O8DFT)

149 "Phrasing" gets to you? hahaha. I think they use it pretty good.

"But I need a cheeseburger Mr. Lahey..."

Seriously guys, if you haven't watched it, I have bought 2 full box sets of Trailer Park Boys (one of my earlier copies got fucked up), it is that good.

and I never would have even heard about it except for the DirecTV channel. The funniest, craziest thing to watch.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 06:58 PM (tVTLU)

150 Am I the only person who watches Haven? Never heard anyone, real or inside my computer, mention it.



I like that show. But it helps to start at the beginning and you'd
have to either get discs from Netflix or pay actual money to Amazon for
it right now.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 06:57 PM (SUKHu)



You know, I've never gotten into that but I've heard others comment that it's quite good.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Sheldon/Penny 4Eva at January 11, 2013 06:58 PM (Gk3SS)

151 For fuck's sake. You do get I was simply trying to point out that she is, in real life, very brilliant.

Well...you said she was a Ph.D. in neuroscience, in any case...

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 06:58 PM (T0NGe)

152 >>It has a killer punchline at the end I keep repeating to myself.

If it's the line I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of applying itas justificationof David Gregory not being charged.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 06:59 PM (SUKHu)

153 >>>The lone chick on the show has a nice rack but limited diving skills, which come handy, when diving.

She's got 'The Only Chick in the Campground' appeal.
... she kinda looks like a a giant vole.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 06:59 PM (BRgmi)

154 who dares speak for Feynman? Get a grip.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 06:59 PM (xVT49)

155 Girls not into comics? tell that to the ones buying all the shoujo and yaoi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:00 PM (hvqfu)

156 <i>For fuck's sake. You do get I was simply trying to point out that she is, in real life, very brilliant.</i>

bwahahahaha

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 07:00 PM (kld87)

157 re: "To truly hate engineers, you must be a construction contractor"

Or anybody who knows things that they don't. People whose self-description is "engineer," rather than whatever it is they actually do, rival lawyers on the monomaniacal paper-shuffler charts. Astounding d-bags.

Posted by: oblig. at January 11, 2013 07:01 PM (cePv8)

158 pajama momma, how are you doing these days?

Hadn't seen you around for a long time and then got to see an actual picture of you the other day!

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 07:02 PM (SUKHu)

159 128 AtC -

Party foul. If you link a youtube video and talk about a chick's rack, I had better see some boobies!!!!

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 07:02 PM (tVTLU)

160 People whose self-description is "engineer," rather than whatever it is they actually do, rival lawyers on the monomaniacal paper-shuffler charts. Astounding d-bags.
Posted by: oblig. at January 11, 2013 07:01 PM (cePv

Hey, I resent that! Plus you've made me late for my coffee break. Union don't like that.

Posted by: building engineer at January 11, 2013 07:03 PM (nZvGM)

161 Howdy, howdy, Mama AJ! Life's good. How 'bout yerself? Decided I missed the joint a little, saw a post about something I dig and figured I'd dive in.

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 07:03 PM (kld87)

162 oh and apparently I can't figure out how to do italics

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 07:04 PM (kld87)

163 >>>When Sheldon the genius tries to learn to drive.

i think that's my favorite or second-favorite episode so far. The other contender is when Sheldon bonds with Leonard's mom.

I think maybe that one wins.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:04 PM (LCRYB)

164 Or maybe Bully Beatdown, but with members of the Senate as the bullies.

Posted by: wth at January 11, 2013 07:05 PM (wAQA5)

165 oh and apparently I can't figure out how to do italics

You need to upgrade to Platinum Status for italics

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 07:05 PM (BRgmi)

166 I love that Kaley Cuoco seems to be aging rapidly and losing a bit of her hotness.

Quite frankly, that makes her seem even hotter to me.

Posted by: Kensington at January 11, 2013 07:05 PM (H84UO)

167 If you read "minor fashion choice" in Raj's voice, take a drink.

Posted by: Max Entropy at January 11, 2013 07:06 PM (cwI1K)

168 The ep where Sheldon tries to train Penny through positive reinforcement with chocolates is pretty funny.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 07:06 PM (BRgmi)

169 dude!

Posted by: Raj at January 11, 2013 07:06 PM (LCRYB)

170 And, yeah, Will Wheaton is a dick, based on his dickish Twitter feed.

Posted by: Kensington at January 11, 2013 07:07 PM (H84UO)

171 >>>The ep where Sheldon tries to train Penny through positive reinforcement with chocolates is pretty funny.

yup. I forget why but the one where they damage Sheldon's cushion was funny too.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:07 PM (LCRYB)

172 And how awesome a name is "Kaley Cuoco"? I would drink her bathwater.

Posted by: Kensington at January 11, 2013 07:07 PM (H84UO)

173 Why I can't watch Big Bang. Sheldon is such a caricature he grates on me.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:08 PM (hvqfu)

174 Old 'n' busted: Kaley Cuoco
New hotness: Margo Harshman (Sheldon's assistant)

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 07:08 PM (6TB1Z)

175 for everyone who thinks wil wheaton is part of the show (I can't tell if you think this or not)... he's a cameo guest star. He's been on one episode I've seen. He's probably been back, but don't not watch the show because you think wil wheaton's in it. He's not.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:08 PM (LCRYB)

176 Looks like my take on BBT is like several others. didn't like it at first, but damn if it didn't grow on me.


And for fuck's sake people, it's a sitcom. You're wanting believable characters and cutting edge science in a sitcom?


Then it wouldn't be a fucking sitcom.


The show is worth it for the tits alone.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 11, 2013 07:09 PM (ROv35)

177 I don't watch the show, but the Blonde gives me teh woodz.

Posted by: Sam In VA at January 11, 2013 07:09 PM (YCvRs)

178 And, yeah, Will Wheaton is a dick, based on his dickish Twitter feed.

Nathan Fillion too

Posted by: Gromulin at January 11, 2013 07:09 PM (SNjPs)

179 I like when Penny found the chair on the curb.

I also liked when Bernadette & Amy would gang up on Raj' sister as a show of solidarity for Penny.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 07:10 PM (O8DFT)

180 Sheldon is such a caricature he grates on me.

There is always a substantial element of truth in caricatures, and he is no different. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 07:10 PM (6TB1Z)

181 The show is worth it for the tits alone.

+2

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 07:11 PM (BRgmi)

182 I've enjoyed some ASHQ recomendations over the years (Primer, the latest, was an excellent movie!) but I draw the line at Big Bang theory.

Exhibit A:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmLQaTcViOA

I rest my case.

Posted by: coondawg68 at January 11, 2013 07:11 PM (VhcOZ)

183 I don't watch the show, but the Blonde...

You'll have to be more specific. Kaley or Bernadette?

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 07:11 PM (6TB1Z)

184 21 Jump Street had a funny take on geekdom in high school.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2013 07:11 PM (Rq+Vo)

185 Wheaton is in 2, maybe 3 episodes. And yes, he plays a dick. And yes, it's funny because he actually plays himself.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 11, 2013 07:12 PM (ROv35)

186 Will Wheaton's been on several episodes spanning numerous seasons, but yeah, that's no reason to avoid the show. You wouldn't even know he's a dick from watching the show.

I'd call his appearances a bit more than cameos, though. When he's there he's usually a big part of the plot.

Posted by: Kensington at January 11, 2013 07:12 PM (H84UO)

187 127 When Sheldon the genius tries to learn to drive. When Sheldon broke up with his equally nerdy and brilliant girlfriend and started to adopt cats, and his mother (a normal person) solved the dilemna.

---------

Sheldon's mother is not a normal person, she's a charicature of an evangelical.

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 11, 2013 07:13 PM (IrbU4)

188 BBT is one of our favorite shows. Chock full of stereotypes but it's hubby & I are bith nerdy enough to find it funny.

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 07:13 PM (S8IQW)

189 When Penny is on, I alternate between her lips and her boobs. I don't hear a damn thing that she says.

Posted by: Max Entropy at January 11, 2013 07:13 PM (cwI1K)

190 The reason I think some people don't like it is that there are a LOT of running jokes. That's why you have to watch a few episodes. Doesn't take too long to pick up on them though.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 11, 2013 07:13 PM (ROv35)

191 We had a gaggle of the kids over the other night, including GD #2 who is currently attending MIT, working on an aerospace eng. degreee. And I recently discovered that she attends Star Wars cons.

I'll have to ask her if she watches this show.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 07:13 PM (yiIja)

192 "And the geek stuff is almost all stuff geeks actually talk about (or at least have thought about). "

My niece is a chemical engineer and her husband is also an engineer. They pretty much fit the geek cliche. And they engage in geeky hobbies that I didn't even know existed.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 11, 2013 07:14 PM (jLiVY)

193 "Nathan Fillion too"
===============

Hoo boy, yeah. Talk about a freaking lunkhead. It's not enough for him that he's a big TV star; he also needs to be taken seriously as a liberal humanitarian.

Douchebag.

Posted by: Kensington at January 11, 2013 07:14 PM (H84UO)

194 The first couple of seasons were funny with nerd geek trivia and jokes.

Then it devolved into the alcoholic gf and other stereotypes.

Still a good time killer.

I will give props for the chick Thor discussion.

Neighbors is the funniest show on TV now.

US tv that is. Mrs. Browns Boys is the out and out best comedy on tv.

And Banshee premiers tonight. Been a fan of Antony Starr for quite a while. Fuck he played twins, as different personalities, on Outrageous Fortune for eight seasons.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:14 PM (G6kli)

195 Will Wheaton is on multiple episodes. But he isn't a major part of the show. And he is an asshole on the show so it is easy tolerate it.


I swear the writer responsible for the lesley winkle character knows and probably dated my college roommate who is a phd in nuclear physics.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 11, 2013 07:14 PM (OpRai)

196 "and the rest of them are pretty good and all, but seriously, Sheldon's the star. He's the Kramer, the Stewie, the Fonz."

There was a point a couple seasons ago where Sheldon came very, very close to jumping the shark, and I mean that in the closest sense of the term possible. The charm of the character is when he's set against everyday society, but suddenly the writers started to just make him do Weird Things and gave him a catch phrase. I was thrilled they saw it and pulled him back.

In that sense, I think last weeks ep was even better-- Sheldon vs. his university's human resources dept. It was in a way a parody of PC crap.

My quibble with the show is that the characters are into *every possible geeky thing*-- Star Trek AND Star Wars AND kites AND superheros AND LOTR and... Usually geeks are only into a couple things. You just don't have the time and energy to fulfill every single stereotype.

But yes, the best sitcom on the air right now.

Posted by: Filly at January 11, 2013 07:15 PM (/Mvc7)

197 When Penny is on, I alternate between her lips and her boobs. I don't hear a damn thing that she says.

Is she slightly cross-eyed? I cant tell because I do the same as you...but there is something weird about her eyes.

Posted by: Gromulin at January 11, 2013 07:15 PM (SNjPs)

198 "Sheldon is such a caricature he grates on me."


Shit, I've known a couple of guys like that. Granted they weren't physicists, but knowing guys like that makes Sheldon that much funnier.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 11, 2013 07:15 PM (ROv35)

199 What?!?! This is the an AWFUL, unwatchable show. My son and I have had great fun mocking it and race to the clicker to change the channel if it comes on. Stupid jokes, even if they are factually correct. Jesus...just awful....

Posted by: Infoprof1 at January 11, 2013 07:16 PM (OMw7P)

200
Good show. Here's a nice synopsis of my favorite episode, one of the xmas ones.
http://y2u.be/dJd7Tzgd_XM

Posted by: lymond at January 11, 2013 07:16 PM (RxLT6)

201 Okay I suffered through a bit more of Sheldon and frankly he is the type of fan I would toss into a volcano. The type of fan I have seen far too often at conventions. Obsessed and annoying to fans and the con guests. Their incessant babbling to prove how intelligent they are kills all enjoyment for others.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:16 PM (hvqfu)

202 Also, I can't seem to do HTML today

Posted by: Gromulin at January 11, 2013 07:16 PM (SNjPs)

203
You'll have to be more specific. Kaley or Bernadette?

Are you telling me there's two hot blondes with sweet racks? I must watch this show!

Posted by: Sam In VA at January 11, 2013 07:17 PM (YCvRs)

204 201 I knew someone in college like that. Worse, he had a crush on me and he was not even 1/10th as cute as Sheldon. Zomg.

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 07:18 PM (S8IQW)

205 @201


That's the point.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 11, 2013 07:18 PM (ROv35)

206 145

I watch it. Mostly terrible, but the actors seem to enjoy their roles.

I thought the man dog thing was hilarious, pushing the owner to get closer to the naked dog man.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:18 PM (G6kli)

207 I may work my way up to it Ace.

I can't quite bring myself to trust it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:19 PM (LRFds)

208 Any Canucks watching Republic of Doyle, Canadas Rockford files?

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:19 PM (G6kli)

209 Dear Burn the Witch. Fine you shack up with Sheldon.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:19 PM (hvqfu)

210 >>>People whose self-description is "engineer," rather than whatever it is
they actually do, rival lawyers on the monomaniacal paper-shuffler
charts.

Engineers describe themselves as "engineers" so that the layperson won't feel obligated to pursue small talk into their "work" since even a baseline description of their job entails is likely a 10 minute explanation to a layman let alone any current projects they might be working on.

e.g.
q: So what do you do?
a: I'm an engineer.*
q: Oh. You like doing that?
a: Sure
q: How about them 49ers

*Translation. I work in a field that requires you to be able to resist LD80 boredom just to discuss it, and have gotten through at least 3D Calculus to understand a casual conversation about it.

It is an effective conversation stopper.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 07:20 PM (0q2P7)

211 My son and I have had great fun mocking it and race to the clicker to change the channel if it comes on.

What kind of kid are you raising?
Fromage 7 - well, now, I'd sit through just about anything to get a hint of Penny side-boob.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 07:20 PM (BRgmi)

212 Have watched from the beginning; the pilot is rough, but they sorted things out, and once they added Amy and Barnadette to the main cast it's been awesome ever since. Last season's finale, with everyone's storylines and character progression culminating in a single episode, was one of the most satisfying TV finales I've ever seen.

I stopped reading Chuck Lorre's end titles for each show a long time ago, however. His stupid liberal egotistical ravings ruined the ending of many an episode for me; I ignore them now and all is well.

"he also looks down on experimental physicists and astrophysicists for that matter."

And his own girlfriend even, who is a biologist. The episode where he is forced by the university president to take a vacation and he inflicts himself on her lab is great.

Posted by: LizLem at January 11, 2013 07:20 PM (8wqqE)

213 203

Bernadette was on True Blood for a few episodes.

Didn't get naked though, but some tight skimpy clothes.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:20 PM (G6kli)

214 this show is me and my college roommates - especially the parts about their "success" with women. It's sad. Especially how they keep being so hopeful - so were we.

Posted by: tom servo at January 11, 2013 07:21 PM (hTDbY)

215 if you don't understand why we conservative types continue to loose elections, just read the number of uptight comments here. Judging the show on the politics and or sexual orientation of who is in it, etc.

I didn't get a feel for the show at first either, but once I watched it a few times I really enjoyed it.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 07:21 PM (xVT49)

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:22 PM (hvqfu)

217 Until several weeks ago, I'd have agreed with this review. It's a funny, and at times heart-warming, show ("The Giftbasket Hypothesis" made me cry); but then Amy had to make a beastiality joke and that was it for me.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 11, 2013 07:22 PM (KL49F)

218
BBT is well-done, no doubt, but search out a little show from a few years back called "Stella" and give it a try. It's like.....imagine a post-modern, slightly-narcissistic version of the Stooges, as directed by Patrick Bateman. The Raking Leaves skit is a good entry point to the series, with jokes that work for reasons no earthly joke could or possibly even should. If you enjoyed the brief run of The State, you'll love this.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at January 11, 2013 07:23 PM (wJliR)

219 BBT: The closeted gay guy is the funny one and also the most intelligent one. The blond chick isn't that pretty. The Indian is a stereotype.

Add pre-marital sex and voila! Funny.


Posted by: Al at January 11, 2013 07:23 PM (V70Uh)

220 I don't know if the fact that I think the show is accurate with respect to geeks means that I'm *geekier* than others and so I recognize it as accurate, or if I'm *not geeky enough* to see it's a caricature.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:23 PM (LCRYB)

221 I have seen Sheldon types latch onto con guests like remoras. And sometimes even con security won't be able to fully get rid of them. Even banning them from the con sometimes won't stop them. So yeah Sheldon is not an enjoyable character.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:24 PM (hvqfu)

222 215

Sheldon came out of the closet in real life, and Johnny Galecki has had his sexuality questioned.

You know Galecki, Sheldon's Mom and Galeckis first gf on the show were all on Roseanne.

Galecki and the gf were dating Roseanne as well.

Bit of trivia.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:24 PM (G6kli)

223 217 Aslan's Girl,

MUST RESIST URGE TO WORK IN A FORBIDDEN JOKE ABOUT A PERSON WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:25 PM (LRFds)

224 I love Sheldon's mother. On the surface she's the uneducated, redneck, right-wing, fundamentalist Christian, Texan. Then she out-smarts all of them.

They manage to have some really funny lines that aren't based on easy potty humor, but are genuinely clever lines, with great delivery.

There was that great conversation between Penny and Sheldon's mom about the home-made cobbler.
Penny complimented Sheldon's mom on the cobbler.
Sheldon's Mom said, "It has that special ingredient."
Penny: "Love?"
Sheldon't Mom: "No, lard."

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 11, 2013 07:25 PM (jLiVY)

225 >>>BBT is well-done, no doubt, but search out a little show from a few years back called "Stella" and give it a try. It's like.....imagine a post-modern, slightly-narcissistic version of the Stooges, as directed by Patrick Bateman.

I like that show a lot. I remember especially two episodes: Running for condo president, and the one where they start a farm inside their apartment, and are on horseback armed with whips to keep the peons pickin' crops.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:25 PM (LCRYB)

226 220 Ace,

it is accurate to the 2d string geeks who are not shut ins.

I observed them with interest as a fairly glib social sciences guy growing up.

The top guns are either very normal or very very weird or quiet.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:26 PM (LRFds)

227 Several of the Stella gags got recycled into other things. I think a couple of gags showed up in Wet Hot American Summer.

I think "I want you inside me" (said by a man to a woman) got recycled that way.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:27 PM (LCRYB)

228 And I should add the bed-hopping and graphic descriptions of bodily functions are a turn-off, too. One saving grace is the way Sheldon's born-again Christian mother is portrayed: even tho the characters and the writers don't agree with her, she is not depicted as "crazy". She makes references to the Rapture and Creationism and yet, they all love her and Leonard wishes she was his mom. Even tho Sheldon doesn't believe in God, he still loves his God-fearing mom. It's interesting to see a Christian depicted in this way from Hollywood.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 11, 2013 07:27 PM (KL49F)

229 I love that scene when Sheldon talks about his father taking all the franklin mint plates up to the roof and shooting them like skeet.

LOL

Posted by: Al at January 11, 2013 07:28 PM (V70Uh)

230 Stella was some good shit. Gotta go find that and watch it again.

Posted by: Glenn Beck at January 11, 2013 07:28 PM (hpYnL)

231 224 I love Sheldon's mother. On the surface she's the uneducated, redneck, right-wing, fundamentalist Christian, Texan. Then she out-smarts all of them.

I love Sheldon's mom too. Not only does she outsmart them, she's a great mom. Just compare her to Leonard's mom or Wolowitz's mom.

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 07:29 PM (S8IQW)

232 >>>Even tho Sheldon doesn't believe in God, he still loves his God-fearing mom.

I don't know if Sheldon doesn't believe in god. I know he doesn't believe in creationalism.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:29 PM (LCRYB)

233 I had the same bias. At first I couldn't sit through an episode.

Lots of reasons but a big one was that I didn't believe the character especially Sheldon's voice but now I love the show and that is Sheldon's voice. Sheldon is the star and he deserves the accolades.

It's an acquired taste but once you get it, you really get it and enjoy it.

Sheldon, the theoretical physicist, to Wolowitz, the engineer - "I never said that you're not good at what you do. It's just that what you do is not worth doing."

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at January 11, 2013 07:29 PM (moyKE)

234 I failed again at the italics. *sad*

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 07:29 PM (S8IQW)

235 Sheldon should read "Miracles" by C.S. Lewis on his next vacation.


Posted by: Al at January 11, 2013 07:30 PM (V70Uh)

236 The Christmas show this season (which might be available still online) was pretty clever. Leonard was sick of Sheldon ruining every Christmas by talking about how much he hated it, so he created a Dungeons and Dragons adventure where all the major traps and encounters were strongly Christmas-themed.

I liked it. It wasn't so much funny as "very cute."

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:30 PM (LCRYB)

237 Yeah, "Stella" was terrific, too. I used to obsessively watch the first episode over and ever, especially the part where the guys dance in their apartment.

Posted by: Kensington at January 11, 2013 07:31 PM (H84UO)

238 Leonard and Leonard's mom are stereotypes.


Posted by: Al at January 11, 2013 07:31 PM (V70Uh)

239 >>>I don't know if the fact that I think the show is accurate with respect
to geeks means that I'm *geekier* than others and so I recognize it as
accurate, or if I'm *not geeky enough* to see it's a caricature.


What level did Magic Users get the Fireball spell? 5
What level was the spell? 3
Why was it cool? It could clear a whole room in one shot.
What was it uncool? Sometimes you forgot you were in the room too.
What's the principle behind D20 games. That percentages for action come in neat little 5% increments.
What's the counter principle? BRP which uses a 1-100 based system instead of a 1-20.
What game came with the Atari 2600? Combat.
What is the most popular computer model of all time? The Commodore 64


It is a caricature.



Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 07:32 PM (0q2P7)

240 232 Ace,

I suspect he believes in 'god' I am fairly certain he is not a Christian.

"deism"

*whispered*

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:32 PM (LRFds)

241 Neighbors is the funniest show on TV now.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:14 PM (G6kli)

That is a great show! My friend forced me to watch the Halloween-ween ep and I've been addicted ever since. It reminds me of the TGIF shows I grea up on, very Perfect Strangers and Family Matters like, before those jumped the shark. The lady who plays Jackie Joyner Kersee is outstanding.



Johnny Galecki has had his sexuality questioned
Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:24 PM (G6kli)

Really? He and Kaley were secretly dating for a while, kept it from the rest of the cast. Can't remember during what season, but it makes their relationship episodes even funnier for me as a result.

Posted by: LizLem at January 11, 2013 07:32 PM (8wqqE)

242 >>>Sheldon, the theoretical physicist, to Wolowitz, the engineer - "I never said that you're not good at what you do. It's just that what you do is not worth doing."

Sheldon has a lot of terse insults like that that I like.

Like:

LEONARD: I don't know what I'm going to do without Penny.

SHELDON (continues eating).

LEONARD: Some people might ask me about how I'm feeling.

SHELDON: Some people might be interested.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:32 PM (LCRYB)

243 stereotypes are funny. Only PC types fail to understand this.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 07:33 PM (xVT49)

244 >238 Leonard and Leonard's mom are stereotypes.

All the characters are stereotypes at first glance but the writing does subvert the stereotypes.

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 07:34 PM (S8IQW)

245 I love Sheldon's mother. On the surface she's the uneducated, redneck,
right-wing, fundamentalist Christian, Texan. Then she out-smarts all of
them.


One of my favorite moments was when she went to the Dean's office to get Sheldon his job back. She and the Dean are instantly attracted, leaving Sheldon to go back to his office, dazed and confused. It doesn't sound all that funny, but it was extremely well done.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 07:35 PM (6TB1Z)

246 >>>stereotypes are funny. Only PC types fail to understand this.

Stereo types can be funny. A whole show based off the exact same stereo types episode after episode. The joke gets tiring quick.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 07:35 PM (0q2P7)

247 Leonards Mom: If you want to have sex with that girl, find out what cologne her father wears.

Posted by: Funny Lines at January 11, 2013 07:36 PM (BRgmi)

248 sven10077 said The top guns are either very normal or very very weird or quiet.

Absolutely.

This isn't rocket science guys, the evidence is right there.

Mayim Bialik has a doctorate from UCLA in Neuroscience, I think she did her work on neurohormone disregulation.

Does she act when she gets on set? Does she drastically change cloths, change mentality, change her mental outlook, interactivity, behavior when she's at work on the set? Because according to most of you, she should just be herself.

Many of you even knew this at some level as you knew the facts, but still preferentially buy into the caricature as it's preferable to your mental paradigm

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 11, 2013 07:36 PM (jhI6f)

249
Sorry Presc had to have dinner, anyway the wife and I are amateur antiquers and restorers so we watched the storage shows for that part.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 07:37 PM (p/cQy)

250 246 Mike the Moose,

Perfect Strangers....


ARGGGGHHHHHHH


damn you Mike damn you to hell I can hear HIS VOICE!

Damn you Pinchot damn YOU!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:37 PM (LRFds)

251 i don't watch this show for the same reason i miss all the other popular shows:

i refuse to give the MFM and the Hollyweird assholes i live with a dime of my money if i have a choice in the matter.

they hate me, i fucking despise them. my spare change might not make a difference, but if more people stopped watching their shit, even if said people liked it, we could starve the beast.

turn your TV off.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 11, 2013 07:37 PM (8MasJ)

252 Then there are people who are too uptight to laugh. Their intellectual insecurities, justified or not, require them to be "above it all" rather than lighten up and enjoy life.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 07:38 PM (xVT49)

253 You're dead to me, Ace.

BBT is horrible. When a joke is "90% delivery," that means it's sucks. Hitting someone in the head with a hammer is also only 10% funny unless you're Moe or Curly. Of course, nobody pretends the 3 stooges are high-brow or smart, but at least they didn't use mic'd in laughing to make themselves funny.

Posted by: VT_02 at January 11, 2013 07:38 PM (lE0mv)

254 (BjJOB)


HASH ENVY

Not here.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 11, 2013 07:38 PM (ORGYc)

255 254 andycanuck,

You know if we could foce that hashtag on Sandra Fluke we'd have saved the republic a LOT of money....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:39 PM (LRFds)

256 Today's special is Awesome Hash

Posted by: AoSHQ Cafe at January 11, 2013 07:40 PM (BRgmi)

257 >>>It is a caricature.

I don't know, you seem defensive. I used to like Just Shoot Me. Every character on that show was a caricature. Comedy relies a great deal on caricature.

Not to go all Meta on you but if you go back to Commedia Della Arte (or however it's spelled) every scenario relied upon the same stock characters (clueless authoritarian father figure/Don, the Lovers, the cunning servant who helps the lovers, etc). They even had the same names from scenario to scenario.

So in a lot of sitcoms you will have The Lush, The Slut (often the same as the Lush), the Needy Clinger Guy, the Aloof Insulting Guy, etc.

Look, I view it like Spinal Tap: Yes, they're making fun of it but they know enough about it that you know they must actually like the thing they're goofing on.

I think it's hard to make a good fun comedy about something you don't like. The sourness would come through. I think the writers on the show are plainly geeky themselves. The show likes the characters.

So, sure, caricatures. I don't know what you were expecting. I can't think of many comedies, even the greatest of all times, that did not rely on caricatures.





Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:40 PM (LCRYB)

258 Oh, brother! Some of you don't like the show. We get it. We got it the first time you said it. But after the 5th time -- put a sock in it.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 07:40 PM (O8DFT)

259 At least there are no ex-SNL people on it. Amy Poeler fucking ruins Parks and Rec for me. And I AM Ron Fucking Swanson. Can't stand that faked up act of hers. Or any other SNL people for that matter.

Posted by: Gromulin at January 11, 2013 07:40 PM (SNjPs)

260 (ORGYc)


I'm in ORGY heat b.
Maybe we can catch up in the next round?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 11, 2013 07:41 PM (BRgmi)

261 what waldo said.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 07:41 PM (xVT49)

262 I can't think of many comedies, even the greatest of all times, that did not rely on caricatures.


Thank you.

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 07:41 PM (kld87)

263 omg. Why aren't italics working? What the hee haw heck?

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 07:42 PM (kld87)

264 Italics need brackets: [ i ] [ /i ]

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 07:43 PM (BRgmi)

265 241

Old

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5848228-johnny-galecki-comes-out-as-straight-on-the-view

Johnny Galecki finally broke all rumors that had been following him for quite some time now by declaring his sexual orientation to be completely straight on The View. Johnny Galecki is a 35 years old actor and rumors of him being gay had been swirling here and there.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:45 PM (G6kli)

266 Thank you Garrett. I have a Graham, a Gavin and a Garren, I knew I should have had another boy and named him Garrett!

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 07:46 PM (kld87)

267 The episode with Leonard's mom out drinking tequilla shots with Penny is one of my favorites. My son was accepted to Cal Tech, and I was prepared to watch him grow into these guys (even though they all went to MIT). He went to the AF Academy instead...

Posted by: Dish of Red at January 11, 2013 07:46 PM (Dmq63)

268 Brit dramedy Misfits is fun. It's what Heroes should have been.

Kind of derilecty people with powers. One villain can command cheese, well Milk.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:46 PM (G6kli)

269 here's a meta gag from the show.

Any screenwriting book will tell you not to make the hero's profession "writer," because there's nothing to look at of visual interest in a writer's work. it's all internal, so it doesn't make for interesting moviemaking.

Make the hero a cowboy. Then you have stuff to look at.

Anyway the writers lampshaded this basic problem of visually conveying work that's done entirely internally, as Sheldon and Raj "get to work" on solving an equation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgbdMgyKvWE

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:47 PM (LCRYB)

270 Johnny Galecki is a 35 years old actor and rumors of him being gay had been sashaying swirling here and there.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 07:47 PM (BRgmi)

271 wtp Then there are people who are too uptight to laugh.
Their intellectual insecurities, justified or not, require them to be
"above it all" rather than lighten up and enjoy life.


No, it's because the show sucks. I'm sorry to not sugar-coat it.

Adam Corolla's book, In 50 years we'll all be chicks, was one that I got in an ePub trade with some friends. Just read it and loved many of the points he was making about how we're sold shitty, sub-par media by the industry and we just eat this crap up because we're told it's good -- be it overtly or tacitly.

Watch the BigBangTheory-clip-with-no-laughtrack posted previously (http://tinyurl.com/b4zgotd) and tell me that's funny. Sheldon's a douche, a bad caricature which trades off the same one 'joke' of what a smart person acts like, ad infinitum.


Now, Spinal Tap, which Ace just mentioned was fucking brilliant. It was a one-off movie which was whitty and clever with some distinction and range -- it wasn't the same repetitious drum-beat of the same thing, over and over, for 8 seasons.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 11, 2013 07:50 PM (jhI6f)

272 There are "screenwriting books"? I think we've found the root of the problem.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 07:50 PM (xVT49)

273 I know I've heard it referred to once as "nerd blackface" but I disagree with that view. Yeah they sort of over the top characters of normal people. But that's basically how all sitcoms are. Usually the character types are turned up to eleven. And the 'nerd' that appears on those shows is usually an Urkel level over the top joke.

In Big Bang theory they are over the top but just to the point normal sitcom characters are.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 11, 2013 07:51 PM (W/nJo)

274 269

Umm Castle and Murder She Wrote all both feature writers as main characters.

Early Castle had some excellent descriptive work by Fillion regarding various crime scenarios.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:51 PM (G6kli)

275 Now, Spinal Tap, which Ace just mentioned was fucking brilliant. It was a one-off movie which was whitty and clever with some distinction and range -- it wasn't the same repetitious drum-beat of the same thing, over and over, for 8 seasons.

But how manyt imes have you watched it?

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 07:51 PM (BRgmi)

276 >>>I don't know, you seem defensive.

Who knows. Maybe I am. But maybe, I just wanted more from that show rather than what they delivered. I thought Seinfeld was plodding and predictable after the first season though so I'm not an easy sell. But the show seemed to quickly lapse into repeated jokes using the exact same set up. I'd rather watch Supernatural. I get different chicks every episode, and at least 4-6 new monsters a season. The relationship between Dean and Sam is boring now, but at least interesting stuff is going on.

When I watch TBBT once the geek jokes wear out the plot material is pretty thin and oh, why would I watch a series about geek living once the jokes got old?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 07:52 PM (0q2P7)

277 275 garrett,

fewer people watching it means the audience is more selective....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:52 PM (LRFds)

278 pjm, a troll broke the blog a while ago and now we can't have nice things.

Well, we could never have nice blog features, but now we can't even have basic things.

Some show offs use square bracket i slash square bracket but it's rather easy to screw up.

And I'm doing well! Glad to see you here again.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 07:53 PM (SUKHu)

279 Soft Ewok,
Warm Ewok,
Little ball of fur.
Happy Ewok,
Sleepy Ewok,
Purr, purr, purr.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 11, 2013 07:54 PM (ORGYc)

280 >>>Umm Castle and Murder She Wrote all both feature writers as main characters.

with respect, it's a rule, it's not a law, and also note the shows are not ABOUT the writing -- the "Writing" profession is background. The shows are about the characters' hobby, which is detection.

Steven King makes a lot of characters writers because he's so prolific and doesn't want to waste time researching other professions (to authenticate it) and because very few stories are about the writing in any significant way -- a character may be a writer, but the story is about murder or Pennywise or etc.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:54 PM (LCRYB)

281 I meant Spinal Tap.

My guess is everyone that enjoys it has seen it multiple times.

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2013 07:54 PM (BRgmi)

282 Now, Spinal Tap, which Ace just mentioned was fucking brilliant.
I'm sure you made this observation upon watching it for the first time all alone...perhaps because you have no friends? (that's a joke, not to be taken personally)

BTW, watched the link. Still funny, just awkward because the comic timing is being done in anticipation of an inserted laugh track. Damn reality.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 07:55 PM (xVT49)

283 >>>279 Soft Ewok,
Warm Ewok,
Little ball of fur.
Happy Ewok,
Sleepy Ewok,
Purr, purr, purr.

Ace is sick???

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 07:56 PM (O8DFT)

284 Wow, I watched that thing, and now I want to beat up all of you.

Ace, I missed the KILLER punch line, half because I couldn't it well, half because I think I may not understand the reference (no comic books in my life, ever), and half because I didn't care enough to rewind it to hear it again.

But thanks for convincing me I'm not missing anything by not watching that show.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2013 07:57 PM (BeSEI)

285 Think about how "writing" is portrayed in movies. It's always the same: Guy sitting in front of computer or typewriter, frustrated, unable to write a sentence, writing three words before deleting them or yanking the paper out and throwing it away.

Then, he goes on an adventure.

Writing is portrayed the same damn way every time because you can only basically show two things: 1, he's got writer's block and is frustrated and is not writing, and 2, he's now writing smoothly and is smiling as he types.

Like I said, it's a rule (or a guideline) rather than a law. But you can see the basic problem of trying to dramatize -- visually, through action -- work that goes on almost entirely inside someone's head.

Now if your hero is a glassblower, you have some very interesting visuals showing him at work.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 07:57 PM (LCRYB)

286 I dunno, some people really like Big Bang Theory and I'm not opposed, it's just that the show is from the same people (Chuck Lorre, et al) who did Two and A Half Men.

And Two and A Half Men could be very, very funny. It's just that after you've seen several episodes, you realize it's nothing but smart-alecs insulting each other. And the female characters (aside from the crazy stalker one) are the most hateful I've ever seen, real products of somebody who has issues.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 11, 2013 07:58 PM (xjpRj)

287 280

How many times did you see Archie Bunker at work?

Or Ralph Cramden drive the bus? I swear I recall Norton in the sewer during one episode.

Half the characters on television were never seen "working". And barely any were seen everyday at their jobs.

The Britcom Trollied focuses on people working at a market. At the end of the day they leave the store but we never get a look at their lives outside of the store.



Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 07:59 PM (G6kli)

288 Ace is sick???
Being sober Friday evening is a kind of sick.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 11, 2013 07:59 PM (ORGYc)

289 286 beckoning chasm,

so one of us needs to make AoSHQ the series and work in our love of MSNBC and at times each other????

We'll make MILLIONS!

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:59 PM (LRFds)

290 288 andycanuck,

words of wisdom....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:00 PM (LRFds)

291 >>>I thought Seinfeld was plodding and predictable after the first season though so I'm not an easy sell

it was horrific the first season and didn't have its own voice and to the extent it had a voice it was a very bad knockoff of woody allen.

(This from a Fan of Seinfeld the Comedian who tuned in because he was a fan and found the show unwatchable... and didn't start watching again until he heard about The Bet episode.)

Maybe you're just not on the same page as most others.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 08:00 PM (LCRYB)

292
My thirtish USMC veteran daughter loves-loves-loves Big Bang Theory. She insists that she has probably learned just as much science from it than she ever did in two years of college. (She's waiting for the higher-ed bubble to pop before she goes back to learn more in an actual classroom, so shaddup about how she is still living at home.)
I haven't been tempted to watch it myself. I never did get the appeal of Seinfeld.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at January 11, 2013 08:01 PM (PvxhO)

293 285

You are only speaking of action.

Would you watch a show about a drill press operator doing his job? The majority would be just as dull.

Creative people can write around that.

William Windom had a show It's my world and you are welcome to it about a cartoonist. And Dave Barry had a show based ob his life.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2013 08:02 PM (G6kli)

294 291 Ace,

I could not stand it at all, I thought his stand up was "meh" but he had flashes I am more a kinnson guy but egads....

that show is a symptom of the rot of the citizenry of this nation.

it was like permission to be a slacking asshole.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:03 PM (LRFds)

295 291 -

I thought Seinfeld was pretty good its first year, and got better for a while, but ended its run with the season where they were making the show for NBC, you know, with the fake George and Kramer, and the guy who ran NBC who was in love with Elaine.

By the time it came to the end, I found myself in agreement with the state prosecuting them for being jerks.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2013 08:04 PM (BeSEI)

296 it was like permission to be a slacking asshole.

why? Only Kramer didn't have a job, and that was the joke. George was never portrayed as any kind of role model.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 08:05 PM (xVT49)

297 >>>Maybe you're just not on the same page as most others.

Well you won't get any argument from me on that assertion. And clearly as BBT is a popular show, it has found a target audience. It just doesn't seem to include me.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 08:06 PM (0q2P7)

298 wtp I'm sure you made this observation upon watching it
for the first time all alone...perhaps because you have no friends?
(that's a joke, not to be taken personally)


Caught me!

Hah, actually I thought it was hilarious the first time I saw it, assume you did as well. Same with the Python films (won't get into which is best argument). These get better with time, but it's not like they sucked balls at first and only got better after you were prod into watching them by friends/wife/husband/gf/bf/other

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 11, 2013 08:06 PM (jhI6f)

299 Oh my I think we have reached a Geek tipping point and about to join Guam.

Was it something I said?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:06 PM (hvqfu)

300 yes I did. But do you understand my point about pausing for a laugh track? Movie producers have different options/restrictions than TV. You do know the secret of comedy, right?

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 08:09 PM (xVT49)

301 pjm, a troll broke the blog a while ago and now we can't have nice things.

bastards

Posted by: pajama momma at January 11, 2013 08:10 PM (kld87)

302
love that show!! and sheldon is my favorite one....i missed the first two seasons... and then I started to watch it... and I find them all funny....


Posted by: cathymv at January 11, 2013 08:10 PM (SzORY)

303 296 wtp,

because (in theory) it is a show about nothing and it portrayed ALL of them as being rather apathetic about that which puts food on their fucking plate.

Sorry it is absolutely a hot button with me.

Lowandslow was picking at me once and said 'wow you have done a lot x and y and z" thinking i was walter mitty and no I am not walter mitty I got hurt my 1st tour in the army and had my dream die so I drifted from job to job while in school until i found the field I loved.....why?

because oddly if you don't give enough of a shit about your job to embrace it and consider it your greatest praise to the maker you probably need a new job.

Seinfeld never came across as having terror at not having material, elaine was blase, jason Alexander has me wanting to lack his 'chute in the doritos commercial, the soup nazi should be drawn and quartered....

it just was retetitive and was funny "because" well forgive me I have laughed at comedy from the turn of last century 'til today and somewhere around 1994 a lot of shit just went 'what the fuck" so far as comedic, musical, and cinematic content went.

When i was maybe 8 years old my dad took me on one of the weekend visits to a motorcycle show....

his nice trike took 3d place in his class....some bike called I think it was 'mud turtle" or something covered quite literally in mud took first...not off roading mud just dolled up in mud with some artsy assed dead branches and shit.

Fuck Andy Warhol

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:12 PM (LRFds)

304 297 MtM,

no shame in that brother, and I am not saying that from feigned superiority or making a 'counter cool group" I loved kids in the hall many don't....

it all works out in the end.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:13 PM (LRFds)

305 Why nolove for Tyler Perry, Ace?
Could it be because he's black?

Posted by: Eric Holder at January 11, 2013 08:14 PM (BRgmi)

306 300 WTP,

run like hell before they figure out you're insulting them or stealing material?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:15 PM (LRFds)

307 wtp said: You do know the secret of comedy, right?

No, but I'd like to hear you out...

Closest I can get is not be cracked out, look like you have AIDS as thin as the microphone poles and show up for stand-up with no skit and ramble for 1.5 hours like Richard Lewis did last month? I couldn't drink that man funny.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 11, 2013 08:16 PM (jhI6f)

308 Maybe some shows are like the Pink Floyd song "Shine On You Crazy Diamond." I imagine a lot of people who heard that for the first time thought, "This is really slow and dull and takes forever." After a few listens, though, the "slow and takes forever" is actually enjoyable because it officially becomes part of the whole thing, rather than a delay.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 11, 2013 08:18 PM (xjpRj)

309 timing

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 08:29 PM (xVT49)

310 Well I just watched four five minute clips of BBT on YouTube and never came close to a laugh. Seems like any other formula sitcom. Just aint my thing.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2013 08:35 PM (GZitp)

311 283 >>>279 Soft Ewok,
Warm Ewok,
Little ball of fur.
Happy Ewok,
Sleepy Ewok,
Purr, purr, purr.

Ace is sick???

I'm so glad I have no Vics Vaporub!

Posted by: Bob, person of Hench at January 11, 2013 08:39 PM (RUsmm)

312 I think BBT is the only show in production I'll actually make an effort to watch (thanks to Last Man Standing's reboot this season).
So what if they're all caricatures? That's what I like about them... I can see aspects of myself and my friends in them.

Posted by: malclave at January 11, 2013 08:54 PM (OCRaO)

313 FWIW, everybody should watch the SECOND "OSS:117" film (the Lost In Rio) one. If only for the HILARIOUSLY inappropriate jokes about French anti-Semitism (which really are about French attitudes, not knocks on Jews), which are some of most outrageously perfect over-the-line humor you'll see in a film during the past few years.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 11, 2013 08:55 PM (/COnL)

314
Seems like there's a number of shows that have come out in recent years that have had a great core idea, but then they become lame as they regress into being a politically-correct soap opera. Royal Pains and Eureka come to mind.

This show seems to avoid that crap, on the whole. It does have a bit of a soap opera element, with Leonard and Penny's Romea and Julietthing being dragged out forever in an "on again", "off again", "on again", "off again", infinitum fashion, but it works. Beyond that, I would only complain that it might be a bit too obsessed with sex. But "sex sells", so what do you expect?

Two interesting observations: (1) At first I thought the show was about the Romeo and Juliet thing, but eventually I realized that it was really aboput Sheldon. Further, that Sheldon is an old-fashioned superhero, of sorts (even down to the detail of old-time superheros being asexual). At one point Sheldon literally uses his "superpower" to save Leonard's life. Usually, liberal shows make fun of the gifted and accomplished; maybe it's "OK" here because he works for a university.

(2) The portrayal of Raj's family as being racist is interesting. Historically, it's only "OK" in Hollywoodfor whites to be portrayed as such. Maybe they get away with it because said family is rich. I guess they needed some way to portray the rich folks as evil, but it still seems likea departure. Even so, it's portrayed as comedic when Indians are racist, but ifyou had a racist white person in there, it would be portrayed as worse than Hannibal Lecter.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 11, 2013 09:04 PM (Mxt9o)

315 One of the geeks on the show was Rusty on "Christmas Vacation". It's the dude dating the hot chick.

Posted by: Gus at January 11, 2013 09:06 PM (TBlS7)

316 I've watched BBT since the first episode, and loved it since then (one or two weak episodes of course, but mostly very good).

Yes, it is perhaps unbelievable that they would be interested in all those different fandoms, but they have plenty of disposable income and I've known plenty of people who pursued multiple interests. RPGs, comics, movies, cosplay, computer games, miniatures, anime?

Without breaking a sweat.

Posted by: Pious Agnostic at January 11, 2013 09:10 PM (PpLfy)

317 Nice to see BBT get some love, I keep hearing insecure people freak out over it and call it "nerd blackface"which is some sort of dogwhistle that apparently means "Punch me in the face repeatedly"

I've always found it kind of sweet.

Posted by: Sortelli at January 11, 2013 09:24 PM (Txy9f)

318 No idea how/why Sheldon is considered funny. My family and friends love this show. Sheldon is fucking fingernails on a chalkboard. It is the only show I have ever seen that makes me want to drop kick puppies after just 30 seconds. I hate this fucking show.

Insert all caps and !!!!! where appropriate.

Posted by: jdw at January 11, 2013 10:01 PM (hADGI)

319 Ironically, I just read a piece this week explaining why I - a geek - don't like the show.

Because the audience is expected to be coming from Penny's point of view where all the jokes are at the expense of the geeks. I agree entirely.

It may seem good now, but give it some time, you'll see.

Posted by: deadrody at January 11, 2013 10:07 PM (kLSvx)

320 If you're interested, here's the piece about not liking TBBT:

http://butmyopinionisright.tumblr.com/post/31079561065/the-problem-with-the-big-bang-theory

Posted by: deadrody at January 11, 2013 10:10 PM (kLSvx)

321 A dissenting opinion. Link in my name.

Posted by: Mister Christopher at January 11, 2013 10:13 PM (DQhAB)

322 319 - lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: wtp at January 11, 2013 10:50 PM (xVT49)

323 This show is fantastic. It is smartly written and Sheldon is the character I watch on the show the most. But there have been great episodes where Sheldon was a side character and the three others are more of a focus. One of the best episodes is the one where Leonard's mom visits during Christmas.

Its hard to believe that the series is entering its sixth year. It has yet to lag in its story lines (like Friends did after 5 yrs) and I think its because for the first time in a sitcom what people do for a living is an active part of the story line.

Chuck Lorre produces the series (2 1/2 Men fame) and its obvious that Charlie Sheen torpedoed his former series as it now runs BEHIND BBT where it used to lead it in.

Posted by: Jcelephant at January 12, 2013 12:01 AM (TYm2g)

324 Was it "You don't know what he's like!" in referring to the Red Hulk being worthy or not to pick-up Thor's hammer?

Posted by: fluke_boy at January 12, 2013 12:12 AM (WuYSD)

325 I like Big Bang Theory but that wasn't an especially good episode for me.

I guess part of it is that they screwed up the geography so badly. The area in question is very familiar to me. Vasquez Rocks is close by enough that we take the dogs there. The area depicted is a fair hike within the park, and it isn't a severe walk from the entrance to residential streets and businesses.

The apartment where Sheldon and Leonard live is less than a mile from my primary employer's office. It's about 40 miles from Pasadena to the exit for Vasquez Rocks. But why would they be on the 14 if they were going to Bakersfield? The most direct route is the 210 to the 5, then turn left when you get to Bakersfield, depending on where in the city you're going. There is the 99 freeway if you're going to central Bakersfield or the 58 from there if you're going to the east side.

Everybody making that show lives less than 150 miles away. None of them knew the territory? And you'd have to be a really desperate fan boy to willingly go to Bakersfield for a con where there are so many events closer by. In my whole life the only time I've gone to Bakersfield without money being involved was when my brother had a heart attack and the nearest hospital was in Bakersfield.

Posted by: epobirs at January 12, 2013 12:13 AM (kcfmt)

326 #318

I've watched it almost from the beginning and challenge anyone on geek cred.

I know a lot of Cal Tech alumni and at any given time you can find a Sheldon lurking around there. They don't last long because the most accomplished people there are actually pretty good at picking up women. Some of them are scarily good at it and caused stunned amazement all around when they married.

The place where the show falls down is the lack of reference to real life geek gatherings well known among fannish types. If I were writing for that show I'd slip in at least one LASFS reference every season, just to give respect to the homies.

Posted by: epobirs at January 12, 2013 12:19 AM (kcfmt)

327 The place where the show falls down is the lack of reference to real life geek gatherings well known among fannish types. If I were writing for that show I'd slip in at least one LASFS reference every season, just to give respect to the homies.
Posted by: epobirs at January 12, 2013 12:19 AM (kcfmt)


They have at least mentioned Comic-Con which is probably the best you'll get, because they aren't making the show for geeks only, which I think they would stick in even more of those sorts of references if it were the case.

Posted by: buzzion at January 12, 2013 12:31 AM (GULKT)

328 #222

I rather doubt Galecki was ever dating Sara Gilbert, unless it was at studio encouragement before she came out as a lesbian. From what I heard she was an incredibly abrasive person that was obsessively preachy about whatever new cause she picked up, like trying to make vegetarianism forced on the entire production's catering. I suspect this was tolerated solely because it was essentially her character.

Posted by: epobirs at January 12, 2013 12:33 AM (kcfmt)

329 #327

But ComiCon is now widely known and referenced on shows like Entertainment Tonight because a lot of trailers get their premiere there. So it's a name known to housewives in Des Moine.

They could play the geek cred and still do it so the audience wouldn't be lost. Sometime the show seems so distanced form its supposed setting you'd think it was being shot in a studio in Manhattan.

Posted by: epobirs at January 12, 2013 12:36 AM (kcfmt)

330
328 #222I rather doubt Galecki was ever dating Sara Gilbert, unless it was at studio encouragement before she came out as a lesbian. From what I heard she was an incredibly abrasive person that was obsessively preachy about whatever new cause she picked up, like trying to make vegetarianism forced on the entire production's catering. I suspect this was tolerated solely because it was essentially her character.
Posted by: epobirs at January 12, 2013 12:33 AM (kcfmt)


I think that comment was referring to the fact that on the show Roseanne she was the younger daughter and Galecki was her boyfriend on that show. I think part of why she was cast on The Big Bang Theory.

Posted by: buzzion at January 12, 2013 12:38 AM (GULKT)

331 #330

Roseanne was Chuck Lorre's first big hit. So he has a longstanding relationship with the cast. Some of them are dead or too big to do a TV guest shot, or just too loathsome to invite anywhere near, especially Roseanne herself. Obviously Lorre likes Laurie Metcalfe.

Cybill was another Lorre show, thus Christine Baranski doing the recurring role of Leonard's mother. Likewise for 2.5 Men, where a cavalcade of actors from past Lorre shows have turned up over the years. Alicia Witt was really smoking in her guest shot.

Posted by: epobirs at January 12, 2013 12:59 AM (kcfmt)

332 One of the best scenes on the Big Bang Theory was when the North Korean spy left Leonard's bed and you get a nice shot of her ass in her panties.

Posted by: buzzion at January 12, 2013 01:02 AM (GULKT)

333 BBT is a very funny show except for the republican/christian/global warming denier bashing. The episodes with the smoking monkey and when Sheldon and Amy tell her mother that she getting well plowed are fecking hilarious!!

Posted by: firefirefire at January 12, 2013 06:20 AM (nAkDV)

334 Please. George Costanza was easily the star of Seinfeld. In fact, the show would have been arguably better without Kramer and his ridiculous pratfalls.

Posted by: middyfeek at January 12, 2013 07:37 AM (7yFGq)

335 Want a great show that doesn't pause for a laugh track?
COMMUNITY.

Watch it.
You won't regret it.
een

Posted by: een at January 12, 2013 07:57 AM (QVSWY)

336 the BBT episode where Leonard's cold, Sheldonesque mother was introduced was one of the best, most brilliant sitcom episodes ever written. BBT is often brilliant.

Posted by: Thea at January 12, 2013 11:00 AM (d4HWM)

337 If you want to catch multiple episodes w/o commercials, tvpc.com has them. Go to live tv and then scroll down under USA... click on Big Bang Theory and voila. I love this show.

Posted by: Jules at January 12, 2013 12:39 PM (JGqgw)

338 Technically, only two of the guys, Sheldon and Leonard have girlfriends, as Howard and Bernadette were married in the final episode of the 2011-2012 season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miLBEMYAaH8

Bernadette's wedding dress doesn't show anything, but certainly emphasizes the size of her boobs.

Since the first episode, Sheldon's behavior appears to me to be a mixture of OCD and mild Asperger Syndrome.

Sheldon's and Leonard's names were inspired by the late Sheldon Leonard, who started in Hollywood as an actor in the 30's, usually playing heavies, like a Vichy cop in "To Have and Have Not", but he also played Nick the Bartender in "It's a Wonderful Life". Eventually, he began to direct and produce TV shows, like "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and "Andy Griffith Show", and "Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C."

Posted by: Reno_Dave at January 12, 2013 01:52 PM (OL4L4)

339 If you are a regular watcher, the fact that Howard is married is a hoot. He should give hope to the most inept of ladies men. The other thing that is handled very well is Sheldon's mom. She is suppose to be a religious "nut" but is actually treated as a wise and loving woman dealing with an exceptional child in a very instinctive way.

Posted by: Cindy Munford at January 12, 2013 02:48 PM (3PGLg)

340 Not a huge fan of BBT, but I watch it in syndication (you can't miss it it's on every channel!) every once in a while and it has it's moments; although Sheldon gets on my nerves from time to time. How many episodes can they do where Sheldon acts like an ass because he doesn't get his way?
Mostly I tune in to see what kind of child size tank top Kaley Cuoco is wearing.

Posted by: Hawk at January 12, 2013 09:49 PM (lnNDS)

341 Much too late for this discussion, but the ongoing Film/TV/Book discussions lately have been very engaging, and bring a nice shot of interesting variety. A strong addition to the regular posting on political/sports.

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