Tabloid Carnival Barker Piers Morgan Slapped Down By Ben Shapiro on Gun Rights

Piers "Geraldo" Morgan got a little roughed up last night and is very butthurt about it today. Warning: Auto-Play Video.

Via Hot Air, a Washington Post blogger calls the fight early.

Where Jones proved needy of a background screening, Shapiro was rational and on point. Where Jones failed to directly address Morganís points, Shapiro went right at them. Where Jones monologued, Shapiro got through his points quickly and shut up.

Shapiro made a point whose power was initially lost on me, so, personally, I'd like to see this fleshed out completely so that no one else misses it:

SHAPIRO: This is what I wanted to ask you, Piers, because I have seen you talk about assault weapons a lot, and I have seen Mark Kelly talk about assault weapons. The vast majority of murders in this country that are committed with guns are committed with handguns, they are not committed assault weapons. Are you willing to ban handguns in this country, across this country?

MORGAN: No, thatís not what Iím asking for.

SHAPIRO: Why not? Donít you care about the kids who are being killed in Chicago as much as the kids in Sandy Hook?

To continue that: If Morgan says he defends the right of people to own handguns because counterveiling considerations demand it -- namely, the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms and engage in self-defense -- why is Morgan's acceptance of some murder (due to an important external consideration) praiseworthy whereas a stronger 2nd Amendment advocate's exact same position, applied to so-called "assault weapons," is callous and extreme?

In both situations someone is accepting a moral evil (gun deaths) because a related moral good (the right to bear arms) has priority. Morgan draws a line and says on one side of it (his own) are the righteous and the caring, but on the other side of it are the corrupt, the delusional, the paranoid and the muder-coddling. But in fact Morgan's exception for handguns results in far, far more actual murders than Shapiro's exception for "assault weapons." (A category I know doesn't exactly exist in gun terminology but this is the made-up terminology they're using.)

Anyway, great point, lost on me at first. Probably lost on others as well.

CNN is behaving in a very MSNBC-like fashion as its producers are now denigrating Ben Shapiro -- an invited guest, invited by the network to do precisely what he did, that is, offer a reasoned and strong defense of gun rights -- as a lunatic, simply because he damaged their dubious Musket Morgan brand by showing him up.

CNN is laying down its policy: Anyone who effectively disputes its foppish idiot version of Jerry Springer will be subject to a negative publicity campaign by its "objective newsman" staffers. (Also: CNN is offering l'esprit d'escalier on behalf of their purple-bruised star employee, or "staircase wit" -- "The jerkstore just called, and it's all out of you. The winner of a debate doesn't need third parties to rush in and make collateral attacks on the other guy.)

A few years back CNN announced its big attempt at brand differentiation from the other cable networks: It would offer more objective "hard reporting" and less partisan shouting and political theater.

But it's now putting all its chips on a disgraced former tabloid editor and Reality TV show whore. And what's even stranger is that Piers Morgan's ratings are very low and is show is always on the bubble of possible cancellation.

Which should tell you something about CNN's politics, in case you weren't quite sure about them. Because I guarantee you CNN would not be straining to prop up a right-leaning carnival barker who was getting abysmal ratings and losing the company money.

And not so ironically -- while CNN claims to want a more reasoned, fact-based discussion of the issues, the moment Ben Shapiro offers just that, they go into PR overdrive to brand him a maniac.

They claim they want discussions like Shapiro offered -- but in fact they want the political theater of Alex Jones, hapless pro-wrestler tomato-cans that Piers Morgan actually has a shot at beating. As Michael Moynihan says,

These are the intellectual equivalents of Mike Tysonís post-prison boxing matches; a chump fight, designed to make the former champ look good.

Update: I deleted the auto-play video. It's now clickable in the first paragraph, above. But still auto-play, of course.

Posted by: Ace at 02:57 PM



Comments

1 first!

Posted by: ALH at January 11, 2013 02:59 PM (yAPdC)

2 I remember when CNN was rally cool. Like, 1982, i think it was?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 11, 2013 02:59 PM (Usuai)

3 Every argument against the lib talking points is found in the federalist papers. The words of the founders are pretty clear. Pro gun people would be wise to read it and use it in their arguments.

Posted by: Berserker at January 11, 2013 03:00 PM (FMbng)

4 Ace is working his two twenty eight hour gigs.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 11, 2013 03:00 PM (Usuai)

5 ben was awesome....and right

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 03:00 PM (GVxQo)

6 Ship his Limey ass back to GB.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 03:01 PM (UOM48)

7 I once had a morgan and coke on a pier.

Posted by: Crashpanic at January 11, 2013 03:01 PM (ejKAW)

8 The best moment was when Shapiro referred to his European ancestors who were reduced to "ashes" because of democracies becoming tyrannical, right after Morgan just got finished douchily scoffing at the notion that the United States government could ever possibly become like, oh, I don't know...Great Britain?

Posted by: MadisonConservative at January 11, 2013 03:01 PM (Y/HG5)

9 That a Brit leads the ant-gun charge is ironic.

Posted by: eureka! at January 11, 2013 03:01 PM (HPRku)

10 Does this thread make my ass look wide?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 03:01 PM (UOM48)

11 Just say no to autoplaying videos.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 11, 2013 03:02 PM (ryAWr)

12 Why do I have to sit through innumerable segments and commercials to see this one clip? And the autoplay was disconcerting since I hadn't clicked 'open it up'. Is this the only way CNN can get people to watch their drivel? Okay, okay...the dust storm was pretty awesome.

Posted by: CitizenEgg at January 11, 2013 03:02 PM (RB0el)

13 This goes to the heart of why I was sad to see Gingrich drop out of the primaries.

I thought he was a fatally flawed candidate. But I thought Romney was as well, an assessment which was proven correct on Election Day.

If Newt had stayed in, what we would have seen would have been a lot more of his willingness to DIRECTLY CONFRONT the liberal media mavens and point a spotlight at their ridiculous biases and blatant manipulation. As he showed he would and could do during the GOP debates.

He would have lost, to be sure. But it would have been far more entertaining and worthwhile than to watch the passive Romney let the debate moderators treat him with barely concealed contempt while they openly collaborated with Obama. Newt would have shut that shit down.

There are lessons to be learned from Newt vs. Mitt in terms of how conservatives should handle the media, and further lessons here in Ben vs. Piers.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 11, 2013 03:03 PM (gqT4g)

14 Ben did great work, BUT I would have nailed him directly on why 500 dead chicagoans in a gun control heavy town don't matter.

There needs to be a divorce i suspect.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:03 PM (LRFds)

15 Does this thread make my ass look wide?

Oh, no. I'm not falling for that one.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 03:03 PM (O7Q1u)

16
Corey Booker is only working 28 hours?

I'm having trouble keeping up.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 03:03 PM (ZDsRL)

17 Ace, don't embed that video. I'm getting audio from TWO different sources on autoplay.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 03:04 PM (T0NGe)

18
Does this thread make my ass look wide?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 03:01 PM (UOM4

Let me grab a twix bar an I'll answer.

Posted by: Berserker at January 11, 2013 03:04 PM (FMbng)

19 But he's #1 on CNN!!!!!!!

Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (UK9cE)

20 I watched this discussion on Gateway Pundit. I was not impressed by Ben Shapiro's arguments or reasoning. I thought he could have done much better.


That being said, he put up more of a fight than most. He is taking the right approach, I just think it needs to be more on-point and forceful.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (bb5+k)

21
FWIW, I thought Sharpiro did great, except for one maybething.
I think the Tyranny point (although important) is lost on most people and especially so on the incredibly stupid Morgan. Insofar as that is accurate, it opens him up to the "Crazy" attack (as you'll see Morgan tried by lumping him in with Jones.)
Having said that, when he was asked "who needs an AR-15?" he fell back on thatpoint (which likely bounced off a wall in the couple thousand rooms and several airports where it was heard.) Better, IMHO to stick to the idea that the AR-15 is just a style of gun, no more or less dangerous than any other gun, just scarier looking. That combined with using the term "left" and right, may have lost him a few points on technicalities. (I'd have stuck with "pro-gun, anti-gun, personally, diffuse the attack.)
(Also, Eugene Volokh made a good point over at VC a while back. "Assault Weapon" is a random construct of things, like telescoping stock, that just make the gun look scarier, but really don't make it any more deadly. And even in that it's a really random list of things not a real definition. I'd like to see people hammer that point home.) But yes, great representitive of our side.

Posted by: tsrblke at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (GaqMa)

22 Yes, you are just a kid, so STFU and STHD until you have had a class in civics and actually READ the Constitution.

Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (ZOUmX)

23 auto play videos?!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (piMMO)

24 Shapiro should have asked Piers right after the Chicago comment, if he hated brown people.

Posted by: Roy at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (VndSC)

25 Damn autoplay starts every time you refresh - and I refresh like a crack-monkey on a three day bender. My F5 key is hardened steel.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (O7Q1u)

26 I love it when Piers calls the Constitution a "little book."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (UOM48)

27 @8

Yeah, I loved that part where Morgan scoffed at the possibility of a tyranny rising up in modern times.
The only problem of course, is a tyranny not rising up is against the historical norm. The only real exception to that has been in the last 200 years, and even then it was with the rights Morgan now wants to extingusih.
Of course, maybe we are crazy thinking someone might be monitoring every electronic communication, or installing video cameras in every public space, etc.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (t06LC)

28 AUTO-PLAY DELENDA EST!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (djdc7)

29 Didn't Shapiro screw us by agreeing to some other form of gun control like the BS mass background checks?

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (53z96)

30 I was over at Hot Air. There was a nice post up on this. I recommend staying away from the commenters though. They got a bunch that need the lithium blasted down their throats with firehoses (really - commenters saying that Alex Jones reallywon that interview round).

So this leads me to my question - if Ed and AP and the rest are such a set of darned dirty RINO's, why are so many of their commenters that way?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - sees the gods of the copybook headings on the horizon at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (hLRSq)

31 CNN is laying down its policy: Anyone who effectively disputes its foppish idiot version of Jerry Springer will be subject to a negative publicity campaign by its "objective newsman" staffers.

____________

I think they learned this from--The Clintons.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (r2PLg)

32 Why do ordinary citizens need assault weapons and 30 round magazines?

Because FYNQ. This is a free country, and it's none of your GD business where I lawfully spend my cash, Nannyboy.

Posted by: Fritz at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (w3+gB)

33 I like embiggened threads, unless I am on my Iphone

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (piMMO)

34 You people with a lot to say.....I'm not scrolling right to read all of it.....so keep it pithy.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (X6akg)

35 Oh fuqitall....every refresh starts the video!

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 03:07 PM (X6akg)

36 I think they learned this from--The Clintons.

It wasn't known as the Clinton News Network for nothing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:07 PM (na11U)

37 Oh Piers, you ignorant slut.

Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 03:07 PM (ZOUmX)

38 An auto-play video ace? Really? Seriously are you trying to ensure my bandwidth consumption gets so high I can't fly under the radar?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 03:07 PM (0q2P7)

39 so keep it pithy.


Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (X6akg


And keep it simple, keep it sweet, and always Semi-Homemadeô.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 03:08 PM (UOM48)

40 It keeps fucking playing!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:08 PM (piMMO)

41 34
You people with a lot to say.....I'm not scrolling right to read all of it.....so keep it pithy.
Arm-pithy?

Posted by: ALH at January 11, 2013 03:08 PM (yAPdC)

42 CNN and MSNBC are now reclassifying an "assault weapon" as any conservative guest with an argument.

Posted by: Roy at January 11, 2013 03:08 PM (VndSC)

43 The best moment was when Shapiro referred to his
European ancestors who were reduced to "ashes" because of democracies
becoming tyrannical, right after Morgan just got finished douchily
scoffing at the notion that the United States government could ever
possibly become like, oh, I don't know...Great Britain?


Posted by: MadisonConservative at January 11, 2013 03:01 PM (Y/HG5)

I thought he should have pointed out that Great Britain is a clusterfuck. That murders are through the roof, including gun murders, and that their wholesale ban on guns has had the exact opposite effect of what they had expected.

I also thought he shouldn't have let Morgan go on about in which events "Assault Rifles" were used. He should have butted in and pointed out events in which assault rifles were NOT used. He mentioned Chicago, but that is pretty generic when naming a specific incident would have made a better point.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:08 PM (bb5+k)

44 Caught this last night and I couldn't get over how Piers kept up with the need thing...why do you need an ar-15? He repeated that line half a dozen times or more and was not challenged. Overall good performance by Shapiro though.

Posted by: Bosk at January 11, 2013 03:08 PM (n2K+4)

45 Every post and refresh starts the video, therefore I will be abandoning this post and waiting for a new one.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:08 PM (UK9cE)

46 niedermeyer

simmons!!! simmons!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 03:09 PM (GVxQo)

47 Didn't Shapiro screw us by agreeing to some other form of gun control like the BS mass background checks?

Doesn't matter because he's not an elected official and in order to use that as a debating point, they'd have to acknowledge the rest of his argument.

He made Morgan look like an uninformed chump. He did his job.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 03:09 PM (T0NGe)

48 Fuck it. I'm done. See you on the next thread.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 03:09 PM (O7Q1u)

49 You people with a lot to say.....I'm not scrolling right to read all of it.....so keep it pithy.

You know, I first read that as "keep it perky". Which is a whole 'nother meaning.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:09 PM (na11U)

50 This will be the last time CNN lets anyone smarter than its hosts on the show.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:09 PM (GQ8sn)

51 35 Oh fuqitall....every refresh starts the video!

Mute button is our friend, in this thread.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:09 PM (fH4X9)

52 Aargh.

Well, I've been putting it off all day.

*dons hazmat suit and grabs gallon container of hand sanitizer*

Heading off to the dreaded mall to make exchange.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 03:09 PM (UOM48)

53 I love it when Piers calls the Constitution a "little book."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 03:05 PM (UOM4

He will call it that in front of me one time.

I'm surprised Shapiro didn't resond with "Morgan, I can't believe you don't like black children. They are dying by the thousands fron handguns and yet you say nothing."

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 03:09 PM (l86i3)

54 Isn't it emerging that the Sandy Hooks children were shot with the same handguns that One Of Us, One Of Us claims he would not ban?


Why do you want to kill children, Gooble Gobble?


(Mmmm. Emwidening)

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 03:10 PM (VtjlW)

55 >>Why do ordinary citizens need assault weapons and 30 round magazines?
We need assault weapons and at least more ammunition than the goons sent by the government to confiscate our stuff have.

Posted by: Roy at January 11, 2013 03:10 PM (VndSC)

56 Every post and refresh starts the video, therefore I will be abandoning this post and waiting for a new one.

****

It does it from the main page and while in other threads as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:10 PM (piMMO)

57 The argument used by the Chicago apologists is that they get the guns from out of town. No one then asks why those out of town locales don't have the same high murder rates as Chicago. Go figure.

Posted by: ejo at January 11, 2013 03:10 PM (GXvSO)

58 "This will be the last time CNN lets anyone smarter than its hosts on the show."...Next up on CNN, A bag of hammers.

Posted by: Bosk at January 11, 2013 03:11 PM (n2K+4)

59 BTW, Larry King criticized Morgan for just this thing: Making himself the issue.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 03:11 PM (T0NGe)

60 Is this thread available?

Posted by: Larry Craig at January 11, 2013 03:11 PM (BrQrN)

61 Anyway, great point, lost on me at first. Probably lost on others as well.

Ahem **buffs fingernails**

Also, PM is not stupid. He's corrupt, autocratic, and cynical, but he's not stupid. He does a reasonably good job preventing the other guy from scoring when it's imminent. He does that by interrupting. Commentus interruptus, if you will.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 03:11 PM (6TB1Z)

62 CNN's behavior in their reaction to Shapiro actually validates exactly what Shapiro writes about in his book:

Bullies: How the Left's Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences Americans

If you come out with an alternative vision that is in conflict with their vision, the debate stops on the issue itself and changes to character assassination of the messenger. If you can't say it is a bad message then you say it is a bad person delivering the message with the notion that any message from a "bad" or "crazy" or "loony" winger/teabagger/whatever is automatically invalid.

What CNN is doing here perfectly illustrates the point of Shapiro's book. I highly recommend reading it, understanding it, and adopting the same tactics as Shapiro.

Posted by: crosspatch at January 11, 2013 03:12 PM (YRCZD)

63 This would have fit better in the last thread but it was just announced that my company is again laying people off, this time from the corporate side as opposed to manufacturing. Thanks idiot voters!!!

Posted by: DangerGirl - feeling empty at January 11, 2013 03:12 PM (GWlHG)

64 There are lessons to be learned from Newt vs. Mitt
in terms of how conservatives should handle the media, and further
lessons here in Ben vs. Piers.



Posted by: torquewrench at January 11, 2013 03:03 PM (gqT4g)

Conservatives should always handle the Media as would a lawyer handle a hostile witness. Conservatives need to be prepared to do verbal battle with media people upon each and every encounter.

If media people try to convince you they are going to be fair, or if they try to befriend you, THEY ARE LYING!!!!

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:12 PM (bb5+k)

65 Every post and refresh starts the video, therefore I will be abandoning this post and waiting for a new one.

****

It does it from the main page and while in other threads as well.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:10 PM (piMMO)

Even when you mute it, it starts again. That has to go.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 03:12 PM (l86i3)

66 44 Bosk,

I NEED the rifle to kill anyone who tries to put me in a cattle car is the correct response.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:12 PM (LRFds)

67 In all fairness to Piers Morgan, if I were as easily slapped around as he is, I'd be for gun control, too.

Posted by: Oschisms at January 11, 2013 03:13 PM (idE8D)

68 Even when you mute it, it starts again. That has to go.

****

I just tweeted Ace and the cobloggers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:13 PM (piMMO)

69 I would have liked Shapiro if he had asked Morgan if he beleived we could tear down the 1st Amendment like the secnd and provide "common sense" regulation for the MFM.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 03:13 PM (53z96)

70 Morgan's lying. Like all leftists he wants all guns banned.

Posted by: Adam at January 11, 2013 03:13 PM (/YJYi)

71 AoSHQ Friday: Doc Dump Ed.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:14 PM (UZQM8)

72 boy, I don't like Shapiro's line of attack at all! Morgan should have said, why, yes, I think we should ban handguns, too! what a capital idea!


Posted by: jeanne at January 11, 2013 03:14 PM (GdalM)

73 I just tweeted Ace and the cobloggers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:13 PM (piMMO)


Kinda sad that.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 03:14 PM (X6akg)

74 best exchange:

Morgan: Which tyranny are you fearing, yourself?
Shapiro: I fear the possibility of a tyranny rising in the country in the next fifty to a hundred years. Let me tell you something, Piers. The fact that my grandparents and great grandparents in Europe didn't fear that is why they're now ashes in Europe. So this kind of leftist revisionist history where there's never any fear of democracy going usurpatious or tyrannical, is just that. Itís fictitious.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 03:14 PM (GVxQo)

75 For what it's worth, Link the video and dump the embedded one.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:14 PM (UK9cE)

76 It's fixed!

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 03:14 PM (X6akg)

77 58
"This will be the last time CNN lets anyone smarter than its hosts on the show."...Next up on CNN, A bag of hammers.
They can call it..."It's Hammer Time! Can't touch this!"

Posted by: ALH at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (yAPdC)

78 Didn't Shapiro screw us by agreeing to some other form of gun control like the BS mass background checks?


Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (53z96)

One reason among many as to why I wasn't so impressed with his performance.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (bb5+k)

79 Thank you.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (UK9cE)

80 by the way, sorry about the auto-play video. I find them just as annoying. I've deleted the embed and made it a link.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (LCRYB)

81 CNN and MSNBC are now reclassifying an "assault weapon" as any conservative guest with an argument.

Assault guest! Scary looking facts!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (BrQrN)

82 I NEED the rifle to kill anyone who tries to put me in a cattle car is the correct response.

I don't NEED the rifle, I WANT the rifle because my ancestors spent 8 years beating the snot out of another set of semi-literate, condescending British fops to give me that right.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (na11U)

83 This thread no longer interests me.

Posted by: Larry Craig at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (BrQrN)

84 How many children are killed by handguns vs. assault weapons?

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (UypUQ)

85 54 Isn't it emerging that the Sandy Hooks children were shot with the same handguns that One Of Us, One Of Us claims he would not ban?

Yeah, AtC.
The real details of what went on at the Sandy Hooks school are still foggy....and evolving.

It's like there is a gag-order in place, about which guns were actually used.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (fH4X9)

86 by the way, sorry about the auto-play video. I find them just as annoying. I've deleted the embed and made it a link.


****


God Bless you!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:16 PM (piMMO)

87 >>>Didn't Shapiro screw us by agreeing to some other form of gun control like the BS mass background checks?

he did seem to but he probably didn't actually *mean* to. He probably left out the caveat, "for sales by licensed dealers."

but yeah, as he actually spoke, he did say "for everyone."

Shaprio is very down-the-line conservative so I doubt he actually intended to push that line.

I mean, I would, or at least i'm wondering about it, but I'm a RINO.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:16 PM (LCRYB)

88 Morgan's lying. Like all leftists he wants all guns banned.


Posted by: Adam at January 11, 2013 03:13 PM (/YJYi)


I know a few leftists and the funny thing is, they own guns.

Yet another example of hypocrisy of the left and their "for me but not for thee" mentality.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:17 PM (UK9cE)

89 OH shit!

It just started playing again!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:17 PM (piMMO)

90 83 This thread no longer interests me. Posted by: Larry Craig at January 11, 2013 03:15 PM (BrQrN)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:17 PM (na11U)

91 and again!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:17 PM (piMMO)

92 The U.S. Senate has not passed a budget bill despite it being required to do so by law (1974 Budget Reform Act). Q. Why is their no legal enforcement? A. because the law failed to specify any enforcement mechanism.

Well morons and moronettes, our Founding Fathers made no such error when they drafted the Bill of Rights. The 2nd Amendment is the enforcement mechanism. Forget about sportsman and recreation target shooters, and all of the idiots on the left who express their bullshit reach across the aisle by appealing to these groups. It is not about them, and never was. It is an enforcement mechanism to ensure that our other rights are protected. Without the 2nd Amendment, our fundamental rights would be respected as much as the law requiring an annual budget bill from the Senate.

Posted by: Radar at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (Z64pB)

93 82 Sean Bannion,

I need a rifle.

I want the AR-15 because I am efficiency minded.

We're not far apart brother.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (LRFds)

94 simmons!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (GVxQo)

95 damnit it won't go away.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (LCRYB)

96 Ace, it's still playing from the comments thread and the main page.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (piMMO)

97 How is that breaking news??

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (O8DFT)

98 #82 Sean Bannion, come on down!!!

You have won the Intertubez!!!!

Tell him what he's won....

Posted by: Mikey NTH - sees the gods of the copybook headings on the horizon at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (hLRSq)

99 I NEED the rifle to kill anyone who tries to put me in a cattle car is the correct response.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:12 PM (LRFds)


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Too extreme. I'd say that I want to kill anyone that wants to rob me of my property and everthing else that I have worked to attain and preserve.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (MxYml)

100 I'm not even getting the right video.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (r2PLg)

101 simmons!!!

****

Huh?!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (piMMO)

102 54
Isn't it emerging that the Sandy Hooks children were shot with the same handguns

okay Lanza DID leave the rifle in the car, or what? I'm still not clear on this.

Posted by: jeanne at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (GdalM)

103 yet more autoplay........ugh.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (UK9cE)

104 I'd actually like to see a libtard define an "assault weapon". What exactly is it? Does it not imply that perhaps other weapons, not fitting the definition, are "affection weapons"?

Posted by: LGoPs at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (4x8W0)

105 Yeah it's not a need thing. I don't need an ar-15 but damn if I wouldn't love to have one. It's my god given right to own one. Leftist love to play their little word games.

Posted by: Bosk at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (n2K+4)

106 95 damnit it won't go away.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:18 PM (LCRYB)

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It's like...a zombie vid.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (fH4X9)

107 45Every post and refresh starts the video, therefore I will be abandoning this post and waiting for a new one.
Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:08 PM (UK9cE) Don't worry, Pixy will fix it.Pretty soon, we'll all be using all the latest features. Yup, any minute now. Can anyone seated by the window see my flying car yet?

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (ZDsRL)

108 the commercial i get before the video....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (GVxQo)

109 okay I accidentally re-published the post as it appeared originally, and so the auto-play video came back. But now I've deleted it again.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (LCRYB)

110

Hit the pause button (lower left) on the video ... might need to do this twice. It then stops ... until the page is refreshed.

Alternatively, start blocking stuff. This makes all ads invisible, so clicks that generate cash for Ace will not happen.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (b3hyN)

111 He does that by interrupting. Commentus interruptus, if you will.

That is easily countered. After the first few times, you say this to the ignorant fuckhole: "Sir, it's difficult for me to make my point when you insist upon interrupting me before I finish. You're quite rude in doing that." and then coninue to answer the question as if said fuckhole hadn't interrupted you.

Note for next time, Ben. Other than that, job well done, my good lad.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (yiIja)

112 I was trying to kill the autoplay on the video while ace was just killing the video.

Works for me.

Posted by: Andy at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (C/NnJ)

113 Ban the Assault Video!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (BrQrN)

114 How about "I need a rifle because asshats like you are too dense to defend my rights any other way."

Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (ZOUmX)

115 Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (LCRYB)

Sooo... into the barrel?

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (UZQM8)

116 The need will arise when they come to take them.

Posted by: Bosk at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (n2K+4)

117 Piers Morgan - the new Keith Olbermann.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (P7hip)

118

Torture's Handmaiden II: The Auto Play Video

Posted by: soothsayer at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (nzF8Z)

119 I would have liked Shapiro if he had asked Morgan if
he beleived we could tear down the 1st Amendment like the secnd and
provide "common sense" regulation for the MFM.


Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 03:13 PM (53z96)

Damn! You and I often think alike. I've been hammering the first amendment argument against the media for a long time. They want to take our second? Let's start talking about their first!!!!
I personally think they abuse their first amendment rights by using their monopoly of the airwaves to push left wing ideology, both overtly and covertly.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (bb5+k)

120 Full auto-playing assault video!!!

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (GQ8sn)

121 I'd actually like to see a libtard define an "assault weapon". What exactly is it?


You know it when you see it.

Posted by: Zombie Justice Potter Stewart at January 11, 2013 03:20 PM (QKKT0)

122 it's so annoying. It's really just an FU. Everyone, but EVERYONE, knows that auto-play is annoying as shit.

Sorry about that.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:21 PM (LCRYB)

123 The founders wanted the American population armed with anything and everything an invading soldier would have, and anything a standing US army soldier would carry should the US ever create a standing army. They wanted us on equal footing..period. It don't matter one fucking bit about technology. This whole argument the libs like to lay out about rhe founders not envisioning these types of weapons is pure fucking bullshit. The founders wanted parity, end of story. They wanted us on equal footing. The fucking minute our military adopted machine guns, we were supposed to have them too. The founders wanted Americans to be a check against a standing army should one ever be created as a safeguard that no fucking future budding tyrant, like the cocksucker in the white house right now, could never use that standing army against the people. Their writings are crystal clear on this.

It has nothing to do with "needs", or hunting, or target shooting. Its a last line of defense.

Posted by: Berserker at January 11, 2013 03:21 PM (FMbng)

124 66...I NEED the rifle to kill anyone who tries to put me in a cattle car is the correct response.

We NEED those rifles...when we get attacked by a mob that "got angry about a video".

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:21 PM (fH4X9)

125 okay Lanza DID leave the rifle in the car, or what? I'm still not clear on this.

This whole 'gun control' firestorm got rolling a few hours after Lanza started shooting-- no one's basing any of their calls for action on FACTS.

Posted by: zsasz at January 11, 2013 03:21 PM (RDP+N)

126 Yeah, Morgan lost his shit right at the beginning - the "how dare you, sir!" response showed that Shapiro punched a photon torpedo right through his shields.

I didn't care for Shapiro's rat-a-tat style of talking, but now I realize its necessity - the only way you canmake a point on idiot "shows" like this is to steamroll them before they steamroll you.

And wouldn't it be funny if Morgan's next right-of-center guest turned to the producer and said, "Oh, Mother Morgan - do you want to insult me after I leave, or save some time and get it over with now, while I'm right here talking to your little boy?"

OK, all - afternoon meeting calls. Have a great weekend; see you all Monday.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (zF6Iw)

127 Since Morgan is not a US citizen, who gives a fuck what he wants?

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (O8DFT)

128 CNN - Where you might be a retarded douchebag, but if you can do with a British accent, you're our kind of retarded douchebag.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (BrQrN)

129 Morgan's lying. Like all leftists he wants all guns banned.


Posted by: Adam at January 11, 2013 03:13 PM (/YJYi)

Yup, and he should have been called out on it. He mentioned Britain, I would point out that in Britain ALL guns were banned, and it is a total clusterfuck of crime and murder.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (bb5+k)

130 what's the into the barrel joke? I missed the original context.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (LCRYB)

131 Can anyone seated by the window see my flying car yet?

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 03:19 PM (ZDsRL)


You got one of these!?!??

http://www.terrafugia.com/


Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (UK9cE)

132 Is Shapiro going to debate Morgan again?

What time? I want to watch this live.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (GQ8sn)

133 I'd actually like to see a libtard define an "assault weapon". What exactly is it? Does it not imply that perhaps other weapons, not fitting the definition, are "affection weapons"?
Posted by: LGoPs


Agreed. I would have been nice for Shapiro to immediately question the premise. Practically every object in a kitchen has been used to kill someone, yet no cries of spatula control.

We can't let the Left define the terms of the debate. Ever.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (djdc7)

134 Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:16 PM (LCRYB)

I give a lot of leeway on statements from people who appear on these chat shows, especially when they're having to fight the likes of Captain Morgan and defending against the interruption, bullying and outright lies he can expect.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (T0NGe)

135 And by the way...how in the world would background checks or mental evaluations have prevented Sandy Hook.

The fucking shooter's mother was not a criminal and not mentally impaired. The fucking kid was. How do you screen for that? Do you give a mental evaluation to everyone who lives in the house? How about your neighbor? He might be unstable and comme over for coffeee and take your guns and shoot up a school? Hmmmmm?

Where the fuck does it end?

Posted by: LGoPs at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (4x8W0)

136 I want the AR-15 because I am efficiency minded.

Well, if it's efficiency you're after then why didn't you say so?

Now step right over here, son. I've got a lightly used 155mm towed howitzer. Now I can let you drive this off the lot today for the low, low price of $527,337.

If you act now,I'll even throw in 150 rounds of DPICM. Whaddya say?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (na11U)

137 what's the into the barrel joke? I missed the original context.

Someone who doesn't close their tags or otherwise fucks up the blog.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:23 PM (GQ8sn)

138
I think Shapiro did a good job, just wish he would have hammered him on a few different obvious things, but at lease some reasoned arguments reached the small audience of CNN.

That cold medicine thing was a perfect example of stupid, easy to get around, laws and morgan didn't even realize it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 03:23 PM (p/cQy)

139 The real details of what went on at the Sandy Hooks school are still foggy....and evolving.

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No. There's been an information shut-down. Nothing concrete is coming forth. Except for the final result, everything else has been censored.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:23 PM (MxYml)

140 130 what's the into the barrel joke? I missed the original context.

When someone messes up a thread in some way...it's "into the barrel" for them.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:23 PM (fH4X9)

141 When are they going to release, if ever, an official report as to what happened at SH?

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 03:23 PM (O8DFT)

142 Jim fixed it for me!

Posted by: Pierced Moorgoon at January 11, 2013 03:24 PM (0It32)

143 This whole 'gun control' firestorm got rolling a few hours after Lanza
started shooting-- no one's basing any of their calls for action on
FACTS.



No doubt the story came out of the same WH offfice that found an offensive video about islam on Youtube.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 11, 2013 03:24 PM (QKKT0)

144 They want to take our second? Let's start talking about their first!!!!

They don't care. They would much rather work for Pravda than do real reporting.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 03:24 PM (T0NGe)

145
I will say Sharpiro's opening line about "standing on the Children's gaves" was awesome.
Morgans been doing that since day one.

Posted by: tsrblke at January 11, 2013 03:24 PM (GaqMa)

146 When are they going to release, if ever, an official report as to what happened at SH?

SRSLY. When is the report going to be released? It's been a month now.

The most important question they need to answer: how did Adam Lanza get his mother's guns?

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (GQ8sn)

147 Jeremy Clarkson, presenter on 'Top Gear', punched Piers Morgan.

Next time, Jeremy, do so with a Caravan.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (RuUvx)

148 130 Ace,

If you italicize every post by not closing your brackets "in the barrel"....

like at a carnival.

You auto played....


get in the box sir.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (LRFds)

149 I'd actually like to see a libtard define an "assault weapon". What
exactly is it? Does it not imply that perhaps other weapons, not fitting
the definition, are "affection weapons"?


He actually did catch him on that but it was lost in the back and forth. PM referred to getting rid of semiautomatic weapons, and Shapiro quickly pointed out that that includes almost all modern guns. Unfortunately, a squirrel ran by the window or something, because PMS moved on to another topic. He is good at misdirection when he needs to be.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (6TB1Z)

150 >>>That cold medicine thing was a perfect example of stupid, easy to get around, laws and morgan didn't even realize it.

Did Morgan pull a David Gregory on that? I didn't actually watch to see how much of the Sudafed he had. Did he have an illegal quantity? Did he misrepresent the reason for purchasing it when he got it at the pharmacy? I assume pharmacists only sell it if you claim to need it for *medical,* not *entertainment*, reasons.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (LCRYB)

151 137 what's the into the barrel joke? I missed the original context.

Someone who doesn't close their tags or otherwise fucks up the blog.
Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:23 PM (GQ8sn)

__________________


Jeez.

Somehow this reminds me of--

having pride in not knowing a possum recipe.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (r2PLg)

152
That was the other thing, we still aren't 100% sure that a rifle was used at Sandy Hook.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (p/cQy)

153 The fucking shooter's mother was not a criminal and not mentally
impaired. The fucking kid was. How do you screen for that? Do you give a
mental evaluation to everyone who lives in the house? How about your
neighbor? He might be unstable and comme over for coffeee and take your
guns and shoot up a school? Hmmmmm?



THIS. HAS. NOTHING. TO. DO. WITH. LOGIC.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (QKKT0)

154 Why in the fuck does CNN still have a monopoly in airports??

Shapiro owned Morgan. This shouldn't be difficult. The facts own Morgan. But Shapiro did it brilliantly - accuse Piers of grandstanding on tragedy (he is) and then remind us of fucking history by talking about the slaughter of his own family (it did happen)

And to remind the Brits, do they remember when the Nazis were on their fucking doorstep (Dunkirk) the NRA sent urgent pleas for its members to DONATE their personal firearms to help the Brits (who disarmed their people) and it took American citizens' firearms, plus the US govt., to rearm the Brits asap (the trustyGarand)...

Finally, to somewhat debunk his Reagan point, Reagan also had a piece in Guns and Ammo in 1975 that was very progun and he passed the Gun Owners Protection Act (which that weasel fuck congressman snuck in a permanent automatic weapons ban in there, but he still signed it). But apparently Reagan did support the 1994 ban. But it also was the dream/pet project of Brady and his wife (personal friends of Reagan) and Reagan did declare that he was battling dementia in 1994 as well.

Bottom line, I do not believe Reagan would still be for an assault weapons ban given that 1) all evidence shows it had no effect; and 2) despite big increases in gun ownership crime rates have fallen very dramatically.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 03:26 PM (tVTLU)

155 135 LGoPS,

essentially the only sane argument is to make estates criminally liable for misdeeds done with the estates' toys.....


of course notice i used 'sane" in a context where lawyers get to play with it.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:26 PM (LRFds)

156 The common er, commenters all know the barrel context.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:26 PM (r2PLg)

157 what's the into the barrel joke? I missed the original context.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (LCRYB)


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O . O

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:26 PM (MxYml)

158 Posted by: Fritz at January 11, 2013 03:06 PM (w3+gB)

Wrong answer, at least for me.

I own assault weapons and 30 round mags because:

1. bigger mags are unwieldy and are prone to jamming.
2. Nobody will sell me an M1A2 Abrams.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 03:26 PM (GsoHv)

159 This buffoonish limey gash is lying right from the start; he does want all guns confiscated.

Liberals are making gun control arguements by citing US murder rates, but they clumsily dance around the uncomfortable reality of those murder rates; most are black on black homicides in major cities, primarily committed with illegally owned handguns. Mass murders with rifles, while horrific, are not that common, while gangland killings in the inner city very much are.

Posted by: UGAdawg at January 11, 2013 03:26 PM (WYOrt)

160 "SRSLY. When is the report going to be released? It's been a month now."...Sometime after the Benghazi report.

Posted by: Bosk at January 11, 2013 03:27 PM (n2K+4)

161 Since Morgan is not a US citizen, who gives a fuck what he wants?
Posted by: Waldo Truth


He used Morgan as a convenient stand-in for the Lefties because Morgan uses the same tired, hyperbolic rhetoric as every damned one of them.

Shapiro rode through him like wet tissue. When given the opportunity to do this on a national show, you fucking do it. Of course the CNN producer is angry. He and his cohort's plan to keep the Right silent and ridiculed took a serious wrong turn.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2013 03:27 PM (djdc7)

162 151 tasker,

Hey nobody reads the blog from the commentariat and (I'm joking Ace) Ace doesn't read the commentariat right?

AoS style guide version .97

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:27 PM (LRFds)

163 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (QKKT0)

BAN COFFEE!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 03:27 PM (GsoHv)

164
Sudafed possession is not protected by the Constitution -- gun ownership is.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 03:28 PM (O8DFT)

165 Morgan pull a David Gregory on that? I didn't actually watch to see how much of the Sudafed he had. Did he have an illegal quantity? Did he misrepresent the reason for purchasing it when he got it at the pharmacy? I assume pharmacists only sell it if you claim to need it for *medical,* not *entertainment*, reasons.

Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (LCRYB)
Ace most of those laws define purchasing rules, not possession. I can buy a new box of Psuedofed every month in Missouri if I so choose (meth capital of the world man!) It's just a way to make it harder for meth makers to get the stuff, not impossible.(In any case, Sharpiro hit the nail on the head on that one: Just because this is the law for psuedofed, doesn't mean that law is any good, or right, or useful. No sense carrying forward the analogy.

Posted by: tsrblke at January 11, 2013 03:28 PM (GaqMa)

166 Libs love the "need" argument to paint as "absurd" the notion of gun ownership as a safeguard against government tyranny. They immediately progress to "So, you think you're going have to go to war with the government?" to further illustrate your tin-foil hattery. I no more "expect" to fight the feds, than having an auto insurance policy makes me expect a car accident.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at January 11, 2013 03:28 PM (OjQYm)

167
No he had a fine quantity of sudafed 'to own', you just can't buy that amount at one time. He was trying to say limit the amount of ammo you can purchase as if people can't stock up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 03:28 PM (p/cQy)

168 157 Soona,

There's about six subcultural groups here at the HQ that I've observed over the years.

Hell I post 3,000 times in a week during campaign season sometimes and i miss some in jokes.

I'll cut Ewok-6 a break

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:28 PM (LRFds)

169 stupid Pierce Morgan...

The Cloward Piven playbook goes like this:

FIRST, we take the guns.

THEN, we take care of that "little book."

Put it the wrong way and the revolution will go bad for us...really fast.

(Like 30-06 in the car window bad)

Morgan got it backward!

Posted by: Choam Nomsky at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (Bv9qa)

170 Q: What's the difference between a leftist and an ignorant demented bottom feeding tyrannical tw*t?

A: One has a slightly longer toenail.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (Rs61n)

171 Why in the fuck does CNN still have a monopoly in airports??


They paid for it?


I was stuck flying on divisional playoff weekend in the NFL one year. Shockingly, bad weather hit the NE and everything was delayed. There was one bar with the game playing and the line was nine deep making it impossible to see.

A maintenance guy came out of a back room, wandered over to something and boom! All the terminal tvs changed to the game. I thought he was going to be mobbed from joy.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (VtjlW)

172 They don't care. They would much rather work for Pravda than do real reporting.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 03:24 PM (T0NGe)


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Nah. Pravda's way too right wing for them.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (MxYml)

173 162 151 tasker,

Hey nobody reads the blog from the commentariat and (I'm joking Ace) Ace doesn't read the commentariat right?

AoS style guide version .97
Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:27 PM (LRFds)

____________________

I'm just messing around, too.

fwiw.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (r2PLg)

174 I think its entirely reasonable to assume the Founders would want whatever is available to at least 2nd-rate Armies to be available to Americans [so, AK-47s, knee mortars, etc]. But they'd also whole-heartedly support public floggings of anyone who had the temerity to use any of them on innocents. Followed by the Stocks. Then hanging, or maybe pressing with stones....

Posted by: Bigby's Noogie Knuckle at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (3ZtZW)

175 This whole argument the libs like to lay out about
rhe founders not envisioning these types of weapons is pure fucking
bullshit.


Posted by: Berserker at January 11, 2013 03:21 PM (FMbng)


I often point out that the founders never envisioned the brainwashing ability of modern television to portray falsehoods as truths, and thereby misinform the populace on a regular basis.
I would tell them they will have a valid point about our modern firearms when they start using ink and paper instead of television.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (bb5+k)

176 The barking limey gash also does not know that many Americans hunt with AR style rifles, that many more shoot in competitions with AR style rifles, or that civilian versions of ARs ARE NOT FUCKING ASSAULT WEAPONS, YOU STUPID ENGLISH BINT. Assault weapons are capable of full auto or burst fire, and civilians cannot get those.

Posted by: UGAdawg at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (WYOrt)

177 Posted by: UGAdawg at January 11, 2013 03:26 PM (WYOrt)

Sigh. Everything you say is correct, and will be ignored by the MBM.

Except for the inner cities, we are a remarkably safe country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (GsoHv)

178 What's an arsenal? They always claim his mother had an arsenal. A rifle, a shotgun, and two handguns does not make an arsenal.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 03:30 PM (O8DFT)

179
Not autoplaying here.


It's about time someone kicked PM's arse.It's not that hard.



Isaw a post from jewells45 on an earlier thread. Hope that meansshe's doing better.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 11, 2013 03:30 PM (1Y+hH)

180
IMO, Shapiro's rhetorical "missteps" wrt background checks, registration, and handgun bans are cut from the same cloth as Wayne LaPierre's supposedly horrible presser. I don't think any of that stuff is meant as a serious counterproposal, but as a means to shift the conversation away from the control of the gunbanners.

Looking back, LaPierre's presser did just that. Discussions of video games, media violence, mental health, and especially armed school guards let a lot of air out of the Left's balloon. Shapiro's dismantling of PM is the next step in the long hike back to sanity.

Well, as much sanity as you'll ever get out of a statist POS progressive.

Posted by: Jaws at January 11, 2013 03:31 PM (4I3Uo)

181 Since Morgan is not a US citizen, who gives a fuck what he wants?





Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 11, 2013 03:22 PM (O8DFT)

Truth.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:31 PM (bb5+k)

182 173 tasker,

I know...Ace sometimes has no time for me and other times is rather nice.

Just playing it safe.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:31 PM (LRFds)

183 What's an arsenal? They always claim his mother had an arsenal. A rifle, a shotgun, and two handguns does not make an arsenal.

She had a few more weapons than that. According to wiki, she had at least 3 more rifles of the hunting kind.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:31 PM (GQ8sn)

184 Libs love the "need" argument to paint as "absurd"
the notion of gun ownership as a safeguard against government tyranny.
They immediately progress to "So, you think you're going have to go to
war with the government?" to further illustrate your tin-foil hattery. I
no more "expect" to fight the feds, than having an auto insurance
policy makes me expect a car accident.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at January 11, 2013 03:28 PM (OjQYm)


My response to that lib argument is always that the founders gave us that right to protect the republic from obvious domestic enemies of the constitution as yourself and the tyrants you leftist assholes seem to worship and elect, and the fact that this conversation is even taking place proves the founders were 100% correct.

Posted by: Berserker at January 11, 2013 03:31 PM (FMbng)

185 But yeah, that's not an "arsenal".

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:31 PM (GQ8sn)

186 168...There's about six subcultural groups here at the HQ that I've observed over the years.

Really?
Am I in one?
I wanna be in the cool kids group....or Group W.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:32 PM (fH4X9)

187 Point out to Morgan that his own country banned guns, and now crime is epidemic there and they're trying to ban knives.

Posted by: zsasz at January 11, 2013 03:33 PM (RDP+N)

188 The video I saw was of some kid saying--

"I didn't feel protected.

I've said this before but--

Americans are okay with Air Marshals protecting mostly adult travelers on planes but suggest something like that for kids at schools and the media who make ratings from shootings go--

berserk.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:33 PM (r2PLg)

189 AtC awesome!!! I hate seeing CNN in airports, it's like I feel like the propaganda keeps coming through!! FoxNews uses hotchiks, even libs watch it because of that.

How difficult is that formula, for fuck's sake.

UGAdawg - absolutely.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 03:33 PM (tVTLU)

190 Why does a welfare recipient need a cell phone?
Why does a healthy 18-30 year old need health insurance?
Why does an illegal alien need health insurance?
their "crisis" is more often repeated than ours -and more loudly, it seems

Posted by: i like anchors 2012 at January 11, 2013 03:33 PM (gMONh)

191 What's an arsenal?

Morgan's favorite soccer team.

Srsly.
http://is.gd/a9Wq2W

Posted by: HeatherRadishô at January 11, 2013 03:33 PM (ZKzrr)

192 Ace, I'm unofficially known in these parts as BarrelBoy for my many formatting fuck-ups, particularly after a few Guinnii.

It's YOUR BARREL and you don't know how it works?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 03:34 PM (yiIja)

193 141 When are they going to release, if ever, an official report as to what happened at SH?

A couple weeks after we find out what happened in Benghazi.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at January 11, 2013 03:34 PM (YesJa)

194
Since Morgan is not a US citizen, who gives a fuck what he wants?

I don't give a f*ck what he wants even if he becomes one. It's not up to people from other countries to come here and turn us into the sh*thole they came from. If you like it, great, welcome. If you want to change it, go away, **** you.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 11, 2013 03:34 PM (Rs61n)

195 186 168...There's about six subcultural groups here at the HQ that I've observed over the years.

Really?
Am I in one?
I wanna be in the cool kids group....or Group W.
Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:32 PM (fH4X9)

_________________

You're a--"daywalker".

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:34 PM (r2PLg)

196 187

but it's lesser crimes so it's OK maaan

Posted by: JDP at January 11, 2013 03:34 PM (60GaT)

197 186 wheatie,

You're in one....

You were one of the Peaches/Rum/PGiS style ONTers a ways back IIRC?

I was there mostly and am when I am not 'manic"....

the crowd changes a lot over the years but the subgroups stay similiar.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:34 PM (LRFds)

198 Point out to Morgan that his own country banned guns, and now crime is epidemic there and they're trying to ban knives.

Plus they have really bad teeth, bad food, and they run funny.

(Seriously, they do run strangely. Well, except for Sebastian Coe)

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 03:35 PM (6TB1Z)

199 The only rebuttal to any talk of gun bans or regulation is the 2nd Amendment itself.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free
state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be
infringed."

It's clear unambiguous and quite frankly beautiful.

Every federal law prohibiting anyone residing within a state from owning any firearm is unconstitutional.

Any state law or regulation that effectively nulls the second amendment is unconstitutional.


But then again, we are cursed with "clever" lawyers!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 03:35 PM (RrD4h)

200 Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:32 PM (fH4X9)

Ooooh....Group W. That sounds cool.

Um, what is it?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 03:36 PM (GsoHv)

201 @154

I was gonna say, I love me some Regan, but by '94 I don't think he was doing too good.
I know Regan implemented the law in the 80s to bring the Garands and carbines home for sale to civilians.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 11, 2013 03:36 PM (t06LC)

202 Anders Brevik got his guns legally, and they weren't assault weapons, Piers. And he killed 3x what the Newtown shit did.

He used bombs, too.

Posted by: zsasz at January 11, 2013 03:36 PM (RDP+N)

203 They don't care. They would much rather work for Pravda than do real reporting.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 03:24 PM (T0NGe)

The point is to put them on the spot. Make them defend THEIR rights, and point out that it is no different from them attacking OUR rights.

Point out how movie inspired violence and news notoriety (spread by them) may have a larger impact in inspiring mass murderers than does the existence of weapons. There was actually a study recently that said exactly that.

A lot of copy cat loons would be less inclined but for the fame which enshrouds anyone who commits such an act. Tell them they need to stop inspiring crazy people to commit such acts! They need government regulation to prevent them from reporting news which will inspire others to commit murders! Use Alinsky tactics on them!
Put the scare into em, and keep it on em.






Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:36 PM (bb5+k)

204 the crowd changes a lot over the years but the subgroups stay similiar.

Now you've gone and done it. Speculation about the commenter taxonomy will now continue until you describe it. And then, everyone will be trying to move out of their group into another one that's perceived as better. Thanks a lot.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 03:37 PM (6TB1Z)

205
I got placed on the group W bench once.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 03:37 PM (p/cQy)

206 Plus they have really bad teeth, bad food, and they run funny.

Well the teeth thing goes back a while and is almost cultural now.

I would disagree on the food. I like fish'n'chips. Real fish'n'chips not the bullshit fishsticks they serve here. I also like the pot pies with the flaky crust. Real good pub food!

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:38 PM (GQ8sn)

207 201 JollyRoger,

I think Ronald Reagan in that case was nancy reagan....

I just reread his farewell.
I'm not crying the dust kicked up.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:38 PM (LRFds)

208 Now you've gone and done it. Speculation about the
commenter taxonomy will now continue until you describe it. And then,
everyone will be trying to move out of their group into another one
that's perceived as better. Thanks a lot.


Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 03:37 PM (6TB1Z)


I don't wanna know.....I don't.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 03:38 PM (X6akg)

209
Did Morgan pull a David Gregory on that? I
didn't actually watch to see how much of the Sudafed he had. Did he
have an illegal quantity? Did he misrepresent the reason for purchasing
it when he got it at the pharmacy? I assume pharmacists only sell it
if you claim to need it for *medical,* not *entertainment*, reasons.





Posted by: ace at January 11, 2013 03:25 PM (LCRYB)

I wondered that very thing when I saw that stack of boxes, and listened to him mentioning that it was illegal to purchase that amount.

That he was counteracting his own point about gun regulation never seemed to occur to him.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:38 PM (bb5+k)

210 197 186 wheatie,You're in one....You were one of the Peaches/Rum/PGiS style ONTers a ways back IIRC?

----------

Yeah, I've been on the ONT from time to time...but usually I'm too sleepy at that hour.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:38 PM (fH4X9)

211 Jolly Roger,

Great point! Yet these fools might even include those as evil, awful "assault weapons", I forgot about that re bringing home the Garands, etc.

Posted by: Prescient11 at January 11, 2013 03:39 PM (tVTLU)

212 So...who got paid today? How bout them new taxes?

Posted by: Brian at January 11, 2013 03:39 PM (UnMRd)

213 the crowd changes a lot over the years but the subgroups stay similiar.

There's only two groups here:

'Rons and 'Ettes.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:39 PM (GQ8sn)

214 204 Pep,

Yup....I stir the pond and then go back to Planey 10077 for a bit and come back and observe.

You caught me.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:39 PM (LRFds)

215 We NEED those rifles...when we get attacked by a mob that "got angry about a video".
Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:21 PM (fH4X9)


There's a drone for that...


oh wait.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:40 PM (UZQM8)

216 213 EC,

in the end we're either morons or hobos....

I know where I am passed out....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:40 PM (LRFds)

217 I'm actually contemplating a side business as--

Ace of Spades--Matchmaker--but it would be-


eeevil pairings from hell--because I'm dyslexic.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:41 PM (r2PLg)

218 210 wheatie,

sleep?

Never heard of it.

//Chaz Gibby 10077

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:41 PM (LRFds)

219 There's only two groups here:

'Rons and 'Ettes.
Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:39 PM (GQ8sn)


Three...

The good, the bad, and the trolls...


UKULELE!!!!!

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:41 PM (UZQM8)

220 Why does a welfare recipient need a cell phone? Why does a healthy 18-30 year old need health insurance? Why does an illegal alien need health insurance? their "crisis" is more often repeated than ours -and more loudly, it seems
Posted by: i like anchors 2012 at January 11, 2013 03:33 PM (gMONh)


---------------------------------------------


According to the left, the scourge of the American culture is white working taxpayers.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:41 PM (MxYml)

221
Plus they have really bad teeth, bad food, and they run funny.

=======
And girls can play their "football".

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 11, 2013 03:41 PM (MPjT8)

222 i always love the "Reagan did it" liberal gambit

Reagan raised taxes (yeah after slashing income taxes dramatically)
Reagan legalized abortion in CA (and regretted it)
Reagan did amnesty (another thing he likely regretted in retrospect given the influx and nonexistent "enforcement" part)
Reagan was a "pragmatist" (WTF does this mean? you can be an ideologue and still compromise if it gets you closer to your desired ends. also "ideology" is not a bad thing)

Posted by: JDP at January 11, 2013 03:41 PM (60GaT)

223 @207

I suspect you're right Sven

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 11, 2013 03:42 PM (t06LC)

224 Facebook is as much to blame for this as so called "assault weapons". That little rat-faced bastard Lanza probably got de-friended by some chick and he lost it. And actually, that's probably not far from the mark. More so if it turns out he was being treated for depression with pschotropic drugs.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 11, 2013 03:42 PM (4x8W0)

225 212
So...who got paid today? How bout them new taxes?

Posted by: Brian at January 11, 2013 03:39 PM (UnMRd)

---

I got paid last week... but that raises the question, are those who were paid earlier in the year paying more in taxes for hours worked in 2012 just because of their pay schedule?

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 11, 2013 03:42 PM (UypUQ)

226 200 Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:32 PM (fH4X9)
Ooooh....Group W. That sounds cool.Um, what is it?

----------

It's from an old Arlo Guthrie song...it's the 'reject' group.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:42 PM (fH4X9)

227 President Barack Obama said the U.S. has fallen "short of the ideal" in Afghanistan:


Dick, stepped on...

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:42 PM (UZQM8)

228 I was going to post something about the Pierced / Clarkson punching incident, but Pixy hates me, so......

In a nutshell, they were at some dinner together and after much drinking, Pierced said something derogatory about Clarkson's wife.

After the punch, Clarkson and wife left.

Thats about it.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:43 PM (UK9cE)

229 According to the left, the scourge of the American culture is white working taxpayers.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:41 PM (MxYml)

And it's really pissing me off. I told my Husband just today that I was never a racist in my life until now. Thank's obama...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 11, 2013 03:43 PM (9+ccr)

230 That a Brit leads the ant-gun charge is ironic.


That a Brit leads the ant-gun charge in this country is just history repeating it'sself.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 03:43 PM (GFM2b)

231
Oh,Svell10077's very popular Ed.

The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods,
waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous
dude.

Posted by: Jaws at January 11, 2013 03:43 PM (4I3Uo)

232 Somebody should remind that British twat that his own country did such a fine job of disarming it's people that during WWII they were begging the americans to donate any spare personal arms the american citizens owned to england because their own home guard were drilling with fucking broomsticks.

Posted by: Berserker at January 11, 2013 03:43 PM (FMbng)

233 Harry Potter vs a combination of Reeta Skeeter and Gilderoy Lockheart, with Harry coming out on top? Every time I see Ben Shapiro I see a long lost brother to Daniel Radcliffe.

Anyway, awesome job kindly slapping down the idiocy that passes for journalism on CNN.

Posted by: LizLem at January 11, 2013 03:43 PM (8wqqE)

234 208
Now you've gone and done it. Speculation about the

commenter taxonomy will now continue until you describe it. And then,

everyone will be trying to move out of their group into another one

that's perceived as better. Thanks a lot.


The fact that I'm in the "retarded" group honestly doesn't bother me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 11, 2013 03:44 PM (P7hip)

235 or Sven10077. Stoopid fingers.

Posted by: Jaws at January 11, 2013 03:44 PM (4I3Uo)

236 >I love it when Piers calls the Constitution a "little book."

All I could think when I saw that was "Yeah, and my ancestors hid behind trees and shot yours in the head for the right to have that little book."

Posted by: DanInMN at January 11, 2013 03:44 PM (XqeyF)

237 UKULELE!!!!!>>

You forgot to link the youtube.

http://tinyurl.com/b3ps592

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 11, 2013 03:44 PM (81UWZ)

238 Except for the inner cities, we are a remarkably safe country.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 03:29 PM (GsoHv)

You mean the places ran exclusively by Democrats?

Go to American Thinker and look up an article called "Pigeons, Rats, and Democrats". It will not only inform you on Democrat Demographics (They overlap with the national Rat and Pigeon populations) it will make you laugh uproariously.

It is a FUNNY article.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 03:45 PM (bb5+k)

239 En Fuego!

Posted by: that guy that shouts en fuego! at January 11, 2013 03:45 PM (evdj2)

240 So just how many boxes of shells does someone need for a mass shooting?

2

Oh. Well then. Obviously ammo limitations are aimed at solving that problem, and not simply just to make sure people can't horde ammo as a contingency for a nation wide emergency.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 11, 2013 03:45 PM (0q2P7)

241 Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 11, 2013 03:44 PM (81UWZ)

Rule 1 of Ukulele club is you don't like to ukulele club...

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:45 PM (UZQM8)

242 229 Hello Mrs Donna V to me,

Donna the nation that says to conservative Anglics "come here and help us grow we'll learn to love Locke too" is going to be a boomtown in the next 30 years.

The democrats are determined to either put us on reservations or make us go Hugenot.

I am determined to not do either but if forced to one or the other I will go be a good 'fill in the blank'....

personal libertarians and government minimalists will be the new jews.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:45 PM (LRFds)

243 like, link... fuck time to start drinking.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:45 PM (UZQM8)

244 And then, everyone will be trying to move out of their group into another one that's perceived as better.

All the real action is in the Salon des Refusťs anyway.

Posted by: HeatherRadishô at January 11, 2013 03:46 PM (ZKzrr)

245 In a nutshell, they were at some dinner together and after much
drinking, Pierced said something derogatory about Clarkson's wife.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Clarkson#Piers_Morgan_feud


Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:46 PM (GQ8sn)

246 Why cant more conservatives who show up on tv be prepared like Mr Jones.

Piers being hoisted on his own petard was worth it to listen to that insufferable snivling effete metrosexual cocksucker for 15 minutes.

Now if we could only strap his ass to one of those eurotrash 737z and flayhim back to his lovely land of horse teeth and afternoon tea, yes the fabled Great Brittan soon to be the Peoples Islamic Republic of Britton based on their immigration numbers.


I am sure when the revolution happens over there and the newly in charge supreme mullahs hang his ass for being a suspected homosexual he will wish he had a gun.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 11, 2013 03:46 PM (+OTLF)

247 Real good pub food!

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:38 PM (GQ8sn)

My wife was in London on business a few months ago, and some friends invited her to a "Pub Roast."

She said the food was pub food, and fantastic, and everyone was pleasantly hammered.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 03:46 PM (GsoHv)

248 > "Yeah, and my ancestors hid behind trees and shot yours in the head for the right to have that little book."


Those poncy red tunics didn't help

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (8sCoq)

249 235 jaws,

Thanks...no seriously....of course the key is running away when i have to or decide work is calling.

I have loved this place a very long time.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (LRFds)

250 The democrats are determined to either put us on reservations or make us go Hugenot.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:45 PM (LRFds)

Those reservations are called rural america where we will work the fields to feed their urban utopias.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (UZQM8)

251 The fact that I'm in the "retarded" group honestly doesn't bother me.

Yeah, me niether. Y'all know better than to get me going about economics or psychology. Outside of those two subjects and manufacturing, I'm an abject idiot.

And damned proud of it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (yiIja)

252 Really? Am I in one? I wanna be in the cool kids group....or Group W. Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 03:32 PM (fH4X9) _________________ You're a--"daywalker".
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:34 PM (r2PLg)


---------------------------------------------


Daywalkers and nightwalkers. The two that I see most often in both groups is Anna Puma and AtC. They're bi-cercadian.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (MxYml)

253 Indicative that the Brits have asked us not to deport Piers. Another failed lib.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at January 11, 2013 03:48 PM (Eq2MX)

254 244 ms radish,

Ms Radish you ever change your mind about that house thing you let me know.

We're leaving the area soon and I may need a renter since my mortgage is "the loife aquatic with steve zissou" for a bit.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:48 PM (LRFds)

255 217 I'm actually contemplating a side business as-- Ace of Spades--Matchmaker--but it would be- eeevil pairings from hell--because I'm dyslexic.

I've just always seen EoJ and curious as a couple. Haven't you?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:49 PM (na11U)

256 250 cajun carrot,

yeah pretty much....

I have a better idea we'll call that "the Constitutional States of America" and sell them food.

The family was sent here because we had funny ideas about liberty and aristocracy.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:50 PM (LRFds)

257 She said the food was pub food, and fantastic, and everyone was pleasantly hammered.

Yeah, when someone hears 'pub food', they're thinking of fries or wings or something, but pub food over there is fantastic. The pot pie is something I've been trying to duplicate myself at home. I can't get it right.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:50 PM (GQ8sn)

258
"personal libertarians and government minimalists will be the new jews."

Well slap my ass and call me Shlomo then.

Posted by: Jaws at January 11, 2013 03:50 PM (4I3Uo)

259 Daywalkers and nightwalkers. The two that I see most often in both groups is Anna Puma and AtC. They're bi-cercadian.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (MxYml)

___________________

And--I hear the night walkers are afraid of the daywalkers--for some reason.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:50 PM (r2PLg)

260 Ok. this is funny.

http://scoamf.us/5G

Posted by: © Sponge at January 11, 2013 03:50 PM (UK9cE)

261
I'm not changing groups unless there is some rent seeking going on.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 03:52 PM (p/cQy)

262 I've just always seen EoJ and curious as a couple. Haven't you?

Or Vic and Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, CT.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 03:52 PM (yiIja)

263 [iThis will be the last time CNN lets anyone smarter than its hosts on the show.

Welcome tonight's installment of Monologue, I'm Wolf Blitzer.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 11, 2013 03:52 PM (evdj2)

264 258 Jaws,

Shlomo, I'll be Yitzakh.

It is too important to not be willing to go to ground over, I'd rather win here....failing that I'll play "moderate muslim immigrant" in reverse somewhere.

Being an insurgent is a lot more fun than trying to stop them.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:52 PM (LRFds)

265 255 217 I'm actually contemplating a side business as-- Ace of Spades--Matchmaker--but it would be- eeevil pairings from hell--because I'm dyslexic.

I've just always seen EoJ and curious as a couple. Haven't you?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:49 PM (na11U)

____________________

LOL!

For The Empire of Jeff pairing--I might go outside the box--like Maureen Dowd or Althouse.

I'd lock them in a cage--and charge like a MMA pay per view.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:52 PM (r2PLg)

266 Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:50 PM (GQ8sn)

Try using shortening, lard, or beef tallow when you make the pastry.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 03:52 PM (GsoHv)

267 Daywalkers and nightwalkers. The two that I see most often in both groups is Anna Puma and AtC. They're bi-cercadian.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (MxYml)


The Daywatch and Nightwatch.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:52 PM (GQ8sn)

268 Or Vic and Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, CT.

And AtC and Greg.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:53 PM (na11U)

269 262 backwards boy,

You gotta figure it'd be like Vic running a marathon a day so far as raw cardio work went....


heh.

When we get to SC I am gonna buy Vic a steak I think.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:53 PM (LRFds)

270
What a beatdown!
Poor, poor Piers. Confronted with fact, reason and logic, he had nowhere to turn but in ever-tightening circles, yapping like a scalded chihuahua all the while!

Posted by: Sam Adams at January 11, 2013 03:53 PM (xND0i)

271 Or Vic and Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, CT.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 03:52 PM (yiIja)

________________________

LMAO--gawd I gotta go for a bathroom break.

Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:53 PM (r2PLg)

272 I have loved this place a very long time.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (LRFds)Me love you long time too!`

Posted by: Ace-chan at January 11, 2013 03:54 PM (GsoHv)

273 Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia President Charles Plosser said the central bankís record stimulus risks a surge in inflation and may impair efforts by households to repair their finances.


Well no shit...

http://tinyurl.com/bkwd7wx

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:54 PM (UZQM8)

274 272 Ace-chan,

Twenty dorra under the bible on the headboard mama-san.....

I am so going to hell.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:54 PM (LRFds)

275 Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia President
Charles Plosser said the central bankís record stimulus risks a surge in
inflation and may impair efforts by households to repair their
finances.





Well no shit...



http://tinyurl.com/bkwd7wx

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:54 PM (UZQM


I'll take "The Fucking Obvious" for $200 Alex.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (GQ8sn)

276 Piers Morgan published fake pictures that probably got British soldiers killed.

Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (dBYCN)

277 When we get to SC I am gonna buy Vic a steak I think.

Yup. If he ever makes his way down here, I owe him a shot of good hootch.

Just on general principles.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (yiIja)

278 And--I hear the night walkers are afraid of the daywalkers--for some reason.
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2013 03:50 PM (r2PLg)


-------------------------------------------


It's because daywalkers shout and say dirty things.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (MxYml)

279 273 cajun Carrot,

You have to go to school a LONG time to get that stupid.

Plaintiff's exhibit one Dr Paul krugman

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (LRFds)

280 And AtC and Greg.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:53 PM (na11U)



*taps chin* Ripper does need a new chew toy.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (VtjlW)

281 Ms Radish you ever change your mind about that house thing you let me know.

How far is it from the airport?

We should get together for a beer before you leave, anyway.

Posted by: HeatherRadishô at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (ZKzrr)

282 This thread could use two quotes from Groucho Marx

"I don't care to belong to a club that would have me as a member."

"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies."

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 03:56 PM (RrD4h)

283 281 Ms radish,

I'm down in heritage in Franklin so you'd need to go to 465 but you may be shocked at how cheaply i can be had on rent.

Anyway we leave in July probably.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:56 PM (LRFds)

284 For The Empire of Jeff pairing--I might go outside the box--like Maureen Dowd or Althouse.

Oh, I was assuming they had to be AoSHQ commenters. If not, then EoJ and Dowd is a masterstroke.

He'd have her trained like Maggie Gyllenhahl in Secretary in 10 days or less.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 03:56 PM (na11U)

285 Over at Drudge....

This whole thing with Obama trying to tie himself to Lincoln is sickening.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:57 PM (piMMO)

286 Oh,Svell10077's very popular Ed.

The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods,
waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous
dude.
Posted by: Jaws at January 11, 2013 03:43 PM (4I3Uo)


LMFAO

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 03:57 PM (l86i3)

287
How in God's name is "Operation Fast Furious" not part of this discussion?
Obama and Holder deliberately armed Mexico's most violent drug cartels. They sold thousands of weapons, resulting in the deaths of 300+ Mexican nationals and 2 American law enforcement officers.
Why the hell aren't we forcing these acts into the national conversation?
The MFM refused to report on Fast Furious.
Obama is so scared of Fast Furious that he's hiding behind executive privilege.
Wouldn't this present an ideal opportunity to force Obama and his media sycophants to address the issue?

Posted by: Sam Adams at January 11, 2013 03:58 PM (xND0i)

288 I think Shapiro was mistaken when he said he feared the tyranny of a usurpatious federal government '50 or 100 years from now'. I fear it now, today, as I write.

Curious to see what Executive Order regarding gun control is going to emanate from the White House. He's succeeded at everything he's tried so far, so I'm betting President Obama will go big. Those of us owning semiautomatic rifles with a semblance of military utility are in for an interesting time, I think.

Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2013 03:58 PM (vtiE6)

289 Plaintiff's exhibit one Dr Paul krugman
Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (LRFds)

I saw a link earlier where he's trying to lie his ass off about CA having a budget surplus due to too many budget cuts. Didn't have the heart to link it... I think it may have been when I was laughing at the Democratic Underground page when they were bitching about the SS tax holiday expiring.

I'll take "The Fucking Obvious" for $200 Alex.
Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 03:55 PM (GQ8sn)

DAILY DOUBLEnty!!!

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:59 PM (UZQM8)

290 285 Sam Adams,

because our party is ran by a bunch of weak sister assholes who refuse to dare the media to ignore them.

We should have ran ads on Fast and Furious non fucking stop.

The Hispanic vote needed reminded we never killed them in four figure numbers.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 03:59 PM (LRFds)

291 We have subgroups?

PLEASURE BATTALION!

ATTENSH - HUUHHN!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 03:59 PM (whARQ)

292 This whole thing with Obama trying to tie himself to Lincoln is sickening.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 03:57 PM (piMMO)


That's the point, he's trying to pour salt on the wound.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 03:59 PM (UZQM8)

293 The better question would be: Why are we even letting Morgan open his pie hole on this?

Why are we are wasting CPU cycles talking about what Morgan thinks of our right to bear arms, when we already know what he believes about our right to privacy?

Posted by: Courtesy Flush at January 11, 2013 03:59 PM (8lB0x)

294 Obama is so scared of Fast Furious that he's hiding behind executive privilege.

Wouldn't this present an ideal opportunity to force Obama and his media sycophants to address the issue?



Damn, you're right. We'll get right on that, sport.

Posted by: The National Media Association of Carnival Barkers and MSM Talking Heads at January 11, 2013 04:00 PM (QKKT0)

295 Curious to see what Executive Order regarding gun control is going to emanate from the White House. He's succeeded at everything he's tried so far, so I'm betting President Obama will go big. Those of us owning semiautomatic rifles with a semblance of military utility are in for an interesting time, I think.
Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2013 03:58 PM (vtiE6)


So let it be written, so let it be done.

If Obama brings a plague on this great nation it will be done by his hand. The cry from the land will be so great that he will surely, leave my people that fuck alone.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 04:01 PM (l86i3)

296 285 Over at Drudge.... This whole thing with Obama trying to tie himself to Lincoln is sickening.

He's been doing it since his inauguration, NDH.

But Lincoln freed the slaves.
Barky is trying to enslave us.

So, being true to his MO...Barky is using Lincoln as a cloaking device.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 04:02 PM (fH4X9)

297 Shouldn't Piers be equally upset about all those Mexicans dead from (FnF) gun violence? Or is he only worried about WHITE FOLKS?



What this is really about is this sad prick trying to get a shred of notice for his failing program.

Posted by: zsasz at January 11, 2013 04:02 PM (RDP+N)

298 263 Toby 928th,

Hat tip to you sir.

That was nice.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 04:03 PM (LRFds)

299 PLEASURE BATTALION!

COM-pany!

SEX-shun!

ATTENSH - HUUHHN!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 11, 2013 04:03 PM (na11U)

300
#294,
You bring Fast Furious up on the Sunday morning shows on ABC, NBC, CNN, and their viewers have never seen it covered. You hammer them with the 300+ murders resulting from Obama's treachery, noting that it's almost twelve times the number of victims of Sandy Hook, and that the blood is on Obama's hands. It leaves them nowhere to go when their "Lord and Savior" is personally responsible for putting those weapons in the drug cartels' hands.

Posted by: Sam Adams at January 11, 2013 04:04 PM (xND0i)

301 Reporting for duty, Sir!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 04:04 PM (yiIja)

302 So, being true to his MO...Barky is using Lincoln as a cloaking device.
Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 04:02 PM (fH4X9)


----------------------------------------------


Sometimes I wish there really was a such thing as zombies and ghosts.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2013 04:04 PM (MxYml)

303 291 We have subgroups?
PLEASURE BATTALION!
ATTENSH - HUUHHN!

----------

Not so fast, Commander.
This subgroup can only be activated when you are wearing your J-DICK hash.

Posted by: wheatie at January 11, 2013 04:05 PM (fH4X9)

304 Issa is either incompetent or purposefully allowing DoJ to skate on FnF.

No other explanation is possible. Issa had wiretaps on DoJ as early as Sept 1, 2010. Wiretaps approved by a federal judge.

Yeah.

Posted by: 13times at January 11, 2013 04:06 PM (h6XiD)

305 Those poncy red tunics didn't help
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 03:47 PM (8sCoq)Their generals never changing tactics with changing tech without a million wasted lives helps. Well, helps if you are the one shooting them.

Posted by: Invictus at January 11, 2013 04:08 PM (OQpzc)

306 On the AR question and 30 round mags, he should have turned it around and said "When you come for my AR are you going to be alone, or is it more likely that you'll bring 25 or so friends?".

Because the 2nd Amendment is about my rights and freedom, and keeping them.

Why do you need me NOT TO HAVE THEM?

Posted by: ontherocks at January 11, 2013 04:08 PM (aZ6ew)

307 I sent in a suggesstion to the CNO about a duty hooker rating. He hasn't gotten back to me yet.

Posted by: Invictus at January 11, 2013 04:09 PM (OQpzc)

308 SHAPIRO: This is what I wanted to ask you, Piers, because I have seen you talk about assault weapons a lot, and I have seen Mark Kelly talk about assault weapons. The vast majority of murders in this country that are committed with guns are committed with handguns, they are not committed assault weapons. Are you willing to ban handguns in this country, across this country? MORGAN: No, thatís not what Iím asking for. SHAPIRO: Why not? Donít you care about the kids who are being killed in Chicago as much as the kids in Sandy Hook?Piers...you got knocked the f**k out.

Posted by: Rich Fader at January 11, 2013 04:11 PM (QKnVC)

309 This will be the last time CNN lets anyone smarter than its hosts on the show.


That was the last CNN broadcast then.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 04:12 PM (GFM2b)

310 Their generals never changing tactics with changing tech without a million wasted lives helps.

****

That and failure to adopt the rifled barrel.

Posted by: Department of Accuracy at January 11, 2013 04:13 PM (+I8Mq)

311
Ben Shapiro slapped the shit out of Piers. Wish he was in Congress.
So far, the only Republican showing a brain, spine and balls is Texas' own Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Sam Adams at January 11, 2013 04:14 PM (xND0i)

312 Piers is Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator. He only likes to fight people that are already mortally wounded.

Posted by: Dave S. at January 11, 2013 04:15 PM (kmLUz)

313 Let's start by saying the bans on flash supressors etc are all cosmetic but between us if SF types are running around A-stan with front grips and collapsing stocks they ain't doing it to look sexy. It makes them better at what they do. That said counter immediately the argument that that ARs should be banned because they suck for deer hunting. The second amendment was not written to allow clay shooters a recreational sport on weekends. It was written to allow guns for defense. Me? I have never bought anything to defend myself against a deer.....

Posted by: Mac at January 11, 2013 04:16 PM (0J18b)

314 Piers is Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator. He only likes to fight people that are already mortally wounded.

Gotta watch that again.


Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones....DICK JONES!!! at January 11, 2013 04:16 PM (GQ8sn)

315 Or he's Andy Kaufman with the women's wrestling championship belt, and Shapiro was Jerry Lawler.

Posted by: Dave S. at January 11, 2013 04:18 PM (kmLUz)

316 I bought the book. May or may not read it, but damn that was great television.

Posted by: Tmitsss at January 11, 2013 04:21 PM (rdav6)

317 You can't have my Battlefield 3 game or my assault-styled SKS (folding stalk, 30rnd mag,tent-stake bayo, variable mag scope). I can't believe they made bayonets illegal in the last ban. Were there that many mass bayonettings?
Joey Choo Choo talked to the video game ppl today. I hope they told him to F off.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 11, 2013 04:22 PM (UU0OF)

318 What I found hilarious is that Morgan actually said at the end "People aren't stupid. They'll make up their own minds" or something very similar and the thing of it is, people did. And they concluded that Shapiro had the better argument, almost unanimously.

Posted by: BS Inc. at January 11, 2013 04:23 PM (eP0u9)

319 Why the hell aren't we forcing these acts into the national conversation?
The MFM refused to report on Fast Furious. Obama is so scared of Fast Furious that he's hiding behind executive privilege. Wouldn't this present an ideal opportunity to force Obama and his media sycophants to address the issue?


Maybe because some high ranking R's also have their dicks in the cookie jar? Only reason that makes sense. Otherwise it should be "Full speed ahead!"

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 04:24 PM (GFM2b)

320 I have no doubt that this limey fruit is also trying to gin up some ratings. According to Neilsen, he has remained in 3rd place in his time slot since mid December. He trails girl-boy Maddow and you're a great American Hannity.
I believe that GB enacted strict gun laws in 1997 but has seen no decline in violence with and without guns.

Posted by: Cheri at January 11, 2013 04:27 PM (G+Wff)

321 Since hammers cause more deaths than so called assault weapons, shouldn't we start using the term 'assault hammers', how about 'assault cars' ?

Posted by: Bret at January 11, 2013 04:33 PM (I0UJt)

322 Joey Choo Choo talked to the video game ppl today. I hope they told him to F off.
Posted by: Schwalbe

There be lotza money in video games and they aren't in 'Sing along with Elmo'. I look at the $$ mega bucks thatI've spent buying my son his favorites and it adds up to a lot and they all involve guns and violence. Why would he play them if they didn't? He knows right from wrong and has a strong moral compass.
What's next Joe? All your buddies in Hollywood won't like it if you and Choom Head start telling them what movies they can and can't make.

Posted by: Cheri at January 11, 2013 04:38 PM (G+Wff)

323 Down goes Morgan! Down goes Morgan! Down goes Morgan!

Posted by: zombie howard cosell at January 11, 2013 04:42 PM (ORGYc)

324 #322 Yeah, it's already coming out that the latest school shooter watched 5 straight MOVIES about serial killers and talked about murder all the time in school before showing up with a gun. Betcha Hollywood buries that info under 20 tons of rock.

I saw a trailer last night for a movie called, I shit you not, BULLET TO THE HEAD. I said to my husband, what's next? "Just Shoot Everyone"??

But yeah, it's the gun's fault. And my fault, because I support the 2d Amendment.

F these people.

Posted by: rockmom at January 11, 2013 04:42 PM (qE3AR)

325 The Question I'd like to ask... Piers (snicker snicker... what a MANLY name)....

Why if Britain is so great... that you want to make us copy it... ARE YOU OVER HERE?

And sorry Piers Stefan Pughe-Morgan (born Piers Stefan O'Meara) but we already CHOSE whether we wanted to follow Britains ways or not... a couple of Hundred Years ago..... Once in 1776, and again 200 Years ago... in 1812...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 11, 2013 04:49 PM (lZBBB)

326 If libs were really serious about gun deaths, they'd address the fact that from 1976 to 2005 56% of gun homicides are committed by Blacks according to U.S. Bureau of Justice statistics.

http://tinyurl.com/ydzu46t

And they are killing other Blacks the same way Whites mostly kill Whites. Blacks make up less than 14% of the population.

So is it racists to talk about Black gun homicides, or it it racists not to talk about it. Seems to me a better argument can be made that it's racist not to talk about it.

Yeah, Morgan is content to let Black kids in the inner city die, as long as he can feel good about banning assault weapons.


Posted by: Hepcat at January 11, 2013 05:07 PM (IPSPJ)

327 Assault weapons dont kill people.....mine never have. Assault cars do though.

Posted by: bret at January 11, 2013 05:13 PM (WSo9h)

328 They need government regulation to prevent them from reporting news which will inspire others to commit murders!
Diogenes is onto something here. I was listening to some radio show and they were recalling Columbine and mentioned their names. I was thinking 'Now they are famous.' Perhaps we need some common sense reporting controls like never publishing the names of these criminals. The MFM is giving them stardom, and other mentally unstable ppl want that fame too.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 11, 2013 05:32 PM (UU0OF)






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