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1 New thread smell. Mmm.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 11, 2013 09:29 AM (ORGYc)

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:30 AM (5DR1j)

3 NRA President: Congress Won't Ban So-Called Assault Weapons.

A lot of people that spent $2500 on an $800 dollar rifle are going to feel really foolish and used when this is over with.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:30 AM (l86i3)

4 the president is a scoamf & bloomberg is the perfect mayor for new york city....how can we get him elected gov?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 09:31 AM (GVxQo)

5 :olice Have Kids Sign Non-Violence Pledge Only To Get Hand Writing Samples::

Heh, makes me homesick. To this day the cops in my old home town still get a copy of the local high school yearbook every year- to use as a mug book.

I wish this was a joke, but it isn't.

Posted by: Nighthawk at January 11, 2013 09:31 AM (RSqz2)

6 Continuing the argument over the coin:

The pundits seem to think that he is going to take the 14th amendment route anyway. That is just as illegal as the coin route.


The 14th amendment has zero to do with the ability to "borrow" in excess of the legal limit.


And
you will NEVER get SCOTUS to accept a case on this. They will simply
say congress has an option and refuse to grant standing.


Of
course the option is impeachment. Something the Democrats will not vote
for if they had proff that Obama was a pedophile who killed his victims
after sex and then ate them.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:31 AM (53z96)

7

Oh look, now
Sheriff Joe the JEF are adopting the NRA's wingnutty idea!!!







The Obama
administration is considering funding many more police officers in public
schools to secure campuses, a leading Democratic senator said, part of a broad
gun violence agenda that is likely to include a ban on high-capacity ammunition
clips and universal background checks.







The school
safety initiative, one of several under consideration, would make federal
dollars available to schools that want to hire police officers and install
surveillance equipment, although it is not nearly as far-ranging as the
National Rifle Association’s proposal for armed guards in every U.S.
school.


Posted by: Jay at January 11, 2013 09:32 AM (3LaGb)

8
WTF is a "universal background check" anyway?

Posted by: Jay at January 11, 2013 09:32 AM (3LaGb)

9 That caveman assault weapon is scary, but I'm holding out for a high-capacity jawbone of an ass.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 09:33 AM (O7Q1u)

10 jay....that's where they never allow you to have a gun because outer mongolia never returned your form......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 09:33 AM (GVxQo)

11 WTF is a "universal background check" anyway?
Posted by: Jay at January 11, 2013 09:32 AM (3LaGb)


I guess they can check you out wherever in the universe you come from.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:33 AM (l86i3)

12 Universal background check - TSA sticks a wand up your anal cavity.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:33 AM (KnIgz)

13 I don't get the last story. Don't ex-presidents already get lifetime SS protection?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 09:34 AM (JPrdt)

14 Police Have Kids Sign Non-Violence Pledge Only To Get Handwriting Samples

I've only skimmed that article, but I think the 4th Amendment may need some dusting-off.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:34 AM (5DR1j)

15 I don't get the last story. Don't ex-presidents already get lifetime SS protection?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 09:34 AM (JPrdt)

Nope, I think I read it's 10 years then you are responsble for your own security.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:34 AM (l86i3)

16 Presidents and their wives used to have lifetime protection, but the law was changed a few years ago to limit it to ten years.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at January 11, 2013 09:36 AM (MSrqi)

17 Americans don't know a damn thing about Genghis Khan.

Posted by: John Kerry at January 11, 2013 09:36 AM (T0NGe)

18 Is the "Universal Background Check" subject to the "Universal Disclaimer"?

http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/univdisc.html

Posted by: Nighthawk at January 11, 2013 09:36 AM (RSqz2)

19 Re: Blue States Get Bluer

Anyone who thinks States like NY were not hard core blue to begin with is either dumb or haven't read a newspaper, looked at news, or even talked to anyone in the last decade.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:37 AM (53z96)

20 Genghis Khan seemed like an alright guy if Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure is any indication

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at January 11, 2013 09:37 AM (MSrqi)

21 That CNN from the ONT about "smart guns" makes me laugh. What the author is asking for is Judge Dredd type guns (from the Stallone movie, not the remake), a gun with electronics.

No way!

Guns have to remain simple pieces of machinery. Why? Because the more complex it becomes, the greater the chances of failure. Every time I pull the trigger, I expect the gun to fire without fail. Every. Time.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:37 AM (GQ8sn)

22
I edited and proofed a workbook for juvenile female sex offenders.
As I began the work, I was saddened and disgusted.
Before long I was completely revolted.
85% of offenders were offended against, and the recidivism rate is in the nineties.
I am glad law enforcement operates stings.
The children who are used in sick ways never forget and as their minds try to cope, their nature is affected and their lives changed forever.
I say brand offenders on the forehead so we all know who we are dealing with. Better yet, no more daylight.

Posted by: Justamom at January 11, 2013 09:38 AM (Sptt8)

23 Skip Genghis Khan, just let the Vandals loot DC.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:38 AM (KnIgz)

24
15
I don't get the last story. Don't ex-presidents already get lifetime SS protection?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 09:34 AM (JPrdt)



Nope, I think I read it's 10 years then you are responsble for your own security.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:34 AM (l86i3)


It used to be lifetime, then in 1997 Congress limited it to 10 years. It's now been restored to lifetime.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:39 AM (da5Wo)

25 17 Americans don't know a damn thing about Genghis Khan.
Posted by: John Kerry at January 11, 2013 09:36 AM (T0NGe)

I know he didn't have an assault rifle.

Therefore, good guy.

Oh, and HOW DARE YOU... HOW DARE YOU

Posted by: Piers Morgan at January 11, 2013 09:39 AM (fWAjv)

26 All of you people with medical need for painkillers must suffer because some people abuse the system. I hereby decree it! May Bloomberg be cursed with a thousand kidney stones.

Posted by: no good deed at January 11, 2013 09:39 AM (mjR67)

27 Obama and the Secret Service should be interesting, considering my theory that he'll spend his post presidency anywhere but the US.

Even the palacial Hawaiian estate will be mostly for show.

Of course, the big question is: Will Michelle actually divorce him or will she have an unofficial but passive-aggressive separation?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 09:39 AM (T0NGe)

28
Firefox just automatically upgraded itself to the latest version.

Now Bing won't work.

Not at all. I can't paste into it. I can't search with it. I can't view my search history.

This sucks.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 09:39 AM (tOkJB)

29 Genghis Khan was a piker compared to the looters running this country

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at January 11, 2013 09:40 AM (MSrqi)

30 Re: Police violating kid's 4A rights story:

“We disagree that it violates student rights,” he said.

If he'd wanted to be honest, he would have said, "We disagree that students have rights."

For adults, for some reason, the police have to cajole or trick you into providing them evidence. So, they can offer you a drink and then use that cup to collect DNA (how much is really in saliva, anyway?) because you're free to reject the offer of the drink. They're free to have you "write a non-binding statement" to collect a writing sample, because you're free to tell them to pound sand.

Students, on the other hand, don't have those options. When the teacher says, "Class, we're all going to write this," the student either complies, or faces punishment (conceivably ongoing punishment until he complies).

But we, as a society, long ago decided that "secure in their person, papers, and effects" did not apply to students, for some reason.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:40 AM (5DR1j)

31 Genghis Khan is the guy from Star Trek II, right?

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at January 11, 2013 09:41 AM (MSrqi)

32 Bing works fine on mine.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:41 AM (53z96)

33 Former presidents and their spouses for their lifetimes, except when the spouse remarries. In 1997, Congressional legislation became effective limiting Secret Service protection to former presidents for a period of not more than 10 years from the date the former president leaves office

http://tinyurl.com/v25vb

Posted by: Caustic at January 11, 2013 09:41 AM (/b8+5)

34
Continuing the discussion about emergency rooms and health care costs....

Noted conservative intellectuals, such as F.A. Hayek and I, both endorse the idea of a government run, single payer catastrophic healthcare system, which would, as a matter of necessity, include a Death Panel.

Normal, foreseeable healthcare expenses would be paid by the consumer directly to the provider through either government supplimented or personally funded health savings accounts.





Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 09:42 AM (ZDsRL)

35 That is Khan Noonian Singh with the rich Corinthian leather lined starship in Star Trek II: TWOK.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:42 AM (KnIgz)

36 But we, as a society, long ago decided that "secure in their person, papers, and effects" did not apply to students, for some reason.

If we apply the Constitution to children, we cannot have compulsory education because of the 13th amendment.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 09:42 AM (T0NGe)

37 So, they can offer you a drink and then use that cup to collect DNA (how much is really in saliva, anyway?)

It's not the saliva, it's the epithelial cells from your lips and inner cheek that float around in your saliva. They only need a small amount and then the magic of PCR amplifies the DNA into a useable amount.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:42 AM (GQ8sn)

38 California blue

They needed the money

Posted by: Andrew "Dice" Clay at January 11, 2013 09:42 AM (MSrqi)

39 Well, I for one fully and totally support issuing Smart Guns.

Who wouldn't love an M56 Smart Gun???

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 09:43 AM (fWAjv)

40 Attack sub collides with ship in Persian Gulf
By Sam Fellman - Staff report
Posted : Thursday Jan 10, 2013 18:10:12 EST
An attack submarine collided with a small, civilian vessel in the Persian Gulf on Thursday, damaging one of the sub’s periscopes but not harming anyone on either vessel, 5th Fleet said Thursday.

The attack sub Jacksonville was at periscope depth at 5 a.m. when it collided with the unidentified vessel.

“Damage appears to be limited to one of Jacksonville’s two periscopes,” 5th Fleet said in a statement Thursday. “The reactor remains in a safe condition, there was no damage to the propulsion plant systems and there is no concern regarding watertight integrity.”

The periscope appears to be “slightly bent” according to initial reports, said 5th Fleet spokeswoman Lt. Marissa Myatt, who said the sub was keeping the damaged periscope raised.


Sure glad there is not shortage of money in the Defense Budget to fix shit like that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 09:43 AM (9Bj8R)

41 BREAKING: Sen. Jay Rockefeller retiring!!!

Posted by: rockmom at January 11, 2013 09:43 AM (NYnoe)

42 Former Abortion Lobbyist Nabbed in Pedophile Sex Sting






MFM: Story? What story?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2013 09:44 AM (1Jaio)

43 Other individuals as designated per Executive Order of the President

Per the above link. I wonder who has secret service protection via executive order?

Have there always been executive orders? When did they start?

Posted by: Caustic at January 11, 2013 09:44 AM (/b8+5)

44 Attack sub collides with ship in Persian Gulf

Are there women attack sub skippers in the navy?


*runs*

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (GQ8sn)

45 Former Abortion Lobbyist Nabbed in Pedophile Sex Sting


Well that's the height of hypocrisy isn't it?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (l86i3)

46 caustic

are you catpiss?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (GVxQo)

47 Thanks, everyone.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (JPrdt)

48 That's gotta be catpiss, doesn't it?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (da5Wo)

49 Well that's the height of hypocrisy isn't it?

The height of convenience, I'd say.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ (BAN ALL THE THINGS!) at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (ZKzrr)

50 I wonder who has secret service protection via executive order?


Valerie Jarrett comes to mind.

Posted by: no good deed at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (mjR67)

51 Panetta: Severe cuts in ops if sequester occurs
By Marcus Weisgerber - Staff writer
Posted : Thursday Jan 10, 2013 20:30:12 EST
The Defense Department is preparing to ground military aircraft and call ships back to port should the Pentagon get hit with nearly $50 billion in budget cuts in March.



“It would mean reductions … in ship training, except for our highest priority units, reductions in flying hours, in pilot training, and ships would have to be pulled out of maintenance, and disruptions to almost every weapon modernization and research program,” Panetta said.

“We’ll ground aircraft, return ships to port, and sharply curtail training across the force,” Dempsey added.


Ya know like the old Soviet Military which went to pot and the ships rusted in port. Good sftuff

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (9Bj8R)

52 Attack sub collides with ship in Persian Gulf

Are there women attack sub skippers in the navy?


*runs*
Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (GQ8sn)


Couldn't be, the sub didn't just drive away like nothing happened.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (l86i3)

53 Courts have long ruled that schools may do some things with students that would not be allowed with adults. But here to date that has not involved things dealing with police.


I haven't read that article but if it in any way violated the Constitution I would suspect the courts would rule against it.


However, you have to have $3.5M to take it to court first.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (53z96)

54 "Dems trying to drive a wedge between Limbaugh and GOP" Ummmm.....didn't they try that in 2009? And got their asses handed to them? Why do they think it will work this time? Pretty funny that they are still so sputteringly mad at Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: rockmom at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (NYnoe)

55 Nevergiveup

As far as I know they are still debating whether to repair USS Miami after a shipyard worker set the sub afire and caused $400 million in damages. So USS Jacksonville's repair bill is chump change.

http://tinyurl.com/axmngzq

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (KnIgz)

56 bc

yes....i think it is....jane d'oh pointed it out yesterday... the links with the stupid questions...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (GVxQo)

57 11 Old Sailor's Poet,

finally Slow joe Can get a pistol.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (LRFds)

58 All of you people with medical need for painkillers must suffer because some people abuse the system. I hereby decree it! May Bloomberg be cursed with a thousand kidney stones.
Posted by: no good deed at January 11, 2013 09:39 AM (mjR67)

Unfortunately, in my business which is presently Workers Comp claims, 90% of the claimants I deal with abuse pain medication.The problem lies mostly with their dealer , uh I mean doctor.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (m2CN7)

59
52
Attack sub collides with ship in Persian Gulf



Are there women attack sub skippers in the navy?





*runs*

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (GQ8sn)




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Couldn't be, the sub didn't just drive away like nothing happened.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (l86i3)


Wait though, did the attack sub captain blame the other ship for being in its way?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (da5Wo)

60 Oh what fresh hell is this?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (XkWWK)

61 Couldn't be, the sub didn't just drive away like nothing happened.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (l86i3)

*notices OSP running beside me*

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (GQ8sn)

62 BREAKING: Sen. Jay Rockefeller retiring!!!

This is probably the best time in 100 years to elect a Republican Senator. Gun grabbin' is not looked upon fondly in West by God Virginia.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (T0NGe)

63 19 Vic,

No no honest injun if only 5 more conservatives would move into New york state it'd be sane....ask a new England conservative.

//pan eyeroll

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (LRFds)

64 52
Attack sub collides with ship in Persian Gulf



Are there women attack sub skippers in the navy?





*runs*

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:45 AM (GQ8sn)




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Couldn't be, the sub didn't just drive away like nothing happened.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (l86i3)

Wait though, did the attack sub captain blame the other ship for being in its way?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (da5Wo)


OH SHIT, IT"S POLY, RUUUNNNNNN!!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (l86i3)

65 the boat the sub left the scene.....presumably unaware that it had been hit.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (GVxQo)

66 The Blue States are Getting Bluer

Does this surprise anyone? Of course they get "bluer" - as the losses mount for the opposition (nominally, GOP) they're told by "the smart people" that they have to "move to the center" (which is really moving to the left, just not as far left as the deep-blue libtards who dominate the Democrat Party in these Peoples' Republics) and so the ratchet drops to the left another notch.

Trust me, if Massachusetts is any indication (and I'm pretty sure it is) there isn't anything remotely resembling a right-of-center (or, frankly, even centrist) opposition left. The MA GOP is today where mainstream Democrats were 20-years ago and since they're "the conservative opposition" what gets defined as "mainstream" or "centrist" keeps getting dragged, willingly I might add, further left.

Nothing short of full-on collapse and bankruptcy has any prayer of changing the tide, either. And even that is hardly a given.

Posted by: DocJ at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (A5uiv)

67
A "Guns 101" demonstration in the state's public safety headquarters in Middletown Connecticut this week paved the way for an eventual bipartisan agreement on further gun controls.

Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers who attended the event said Thursday they learned a lot about the nuances of assault-style weapons similar to the rifle Adam Lanza used to kill 20 children and six adults last month at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

House Minority Leader Republican Lawrence F. Cafero Jr. said his knowledge of weaponry was minimal before the police tutorial, but he was left with the feeling that public safety could be enhanced if owners of rifles with external magazines of bullets were required to have permits similar to those with handguns.

In Connecticut, rifle sales do not require background checks or training, while those who seek pistol permits, have months of training, and background and character reviews.

CTPost



Mmmm -- that sweet sweet bipartisanship....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (kdS6q)

68 Former Abortion Lobbyist Nabbed In Pedophile Sex Sting


Seems counterintuitive; why would you be in favor of killing in the womb what you wish to fondle in the crib?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (XkWWK)

69 If we apply the Constitution to children, we cannot have compulsory education because of the 13th amendment.

Not necessarily. I can certainly see the legal argument, but the counter argument is that "compulsory education" isn't really, since there are (even if only in theory) the options of private and home schooling, and the option to (legally) drop out after a certain age (usually 17).

But even if it did. So what? You think parents aren't going to send their kids to free day care school? The ones who won't attend will (by and large) be the ones who don't attend currently.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (5DR1j)

70 "Smart guns"? Couldn't anybody with a dremel get around that?

Posted by: Bigby's Racking Hand at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (3ZtZW)

71 68...

...unless he's into fetal necrophilia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 09:50 AM (XkWWK)

72 67 LDC,

If the GOP turns gun grabber the republic is done and I will start openly advocating for secession.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 09:50 AM (LRFds)

73
It used to be lifetime, then in 1997 Congress limited it to 10 years. It's now been restored to lifetime.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:39 AM (da5Wo)


Obama probably feels the need for it more acutely than any previous President. After what he has done, looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life is very prudent.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:50 AM (bb5+k)

74 "Smart guns"? Couldn't anybody with a dremel get around that?
Posted by: Bigby's Racking Hand at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (3ZtZW)


What man can conceive, man can deceive.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:50 AM (l86i3)

75 Courts have long ruled that schools may do some things with students
that would not be allowed with adults. But here to date that has not
involved things dealing with police.


Not true. Random drug sweeps at schools, anyone? The cops can come in and search any locker they please. No warrant. No probable cause. Not even reasonable suspicion. They just need curiosity.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:51 AM (5DR1j)

76 If anything, "smart guns" would be more useful to the public for shutting off the guns of a regime - assuming the troops of a given regime would be using them.

So yes, lets do it.

Posted by: Bigby's Racking Hand at January 11, 2013 09:51 AM (3ZtZW)

77 What one man creates to impede, another so motivated can liberate.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:51 AM (KnIgz)

78 43
Other individuals as designated per Executive Order of the President



Per the above link. I wonder who has secret service protection via executive order?


----------

Valerie Jarrett.


Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 11, 2013 09:51 AM (1c58W)

79 Smart guns + EMP = broke guns

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (KnIgz)

80
As far as I know they are still debating whether to repair USS Miami after a shipyard worker set the sub afire and caused $400 million in damages. So USS Jacksonville's repair bill is chump change.

http://tinyurl.com/axmngzq
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:46 AM (KnIgz)

They still intend to fix it by cannabalizing an older Virgina Class Attack Sub that is due to be retired but with the budget being cut so much, ya never know. It's gonna be some lean times in the Military the next 4 years

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (9Bj8R)

81 the boat the sub left the scene.....presumably unaware that it had been hit.....

I'm thinking of that scene from Galaxy Quest when they first take the "Protector" out of spacedock and the pilot grazes the edge of the superstructure making a metal grinding sound that no one misses. It'd be pretty hard not to notice.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (GQ8sn)

82 Joe Biden is congenital liar. After his meeting with the NRA they set up a meeting with the video gaming people. He gave a statement in a press conference where I paraphrase:

The President...blah blah blah.....One thing that everybody that we have met with have agreed that we need to do something about is the High capacity magazines....blah blah blah.

That dude is literally insane.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (m2CN7)

83 22 I say brand offenders on the forehead so we all know who we are dealing with. Better yet, no more daylight.
Posted by: Justamom at January 11, 2013 09:38 AM (Sptt


Cut off genitalia and hands. Maybe we can borrow a page from the Muzzies for this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (XkWWK)

84 "Dems trying to drive a wedge between Limbaugh and GOP" Ummmm.....didn't they try that in 2009? And got their asses handed to them? Why do they think it will work this time? Pretty funny that they are still so sputteringly mad at Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh is their bete noire.

The Left is so full of hate, their fundraising letters don't attack real sitting politicians, they attack talk-show hosts and others who are supposed to be despised.

When they're getting desperate, Limbaugh is their go-to guy because he's easily caricatured, lefties never hear directly from him.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (T0NGe)

85
All this talk now about how unreliable, inefficient, and incomplete the NICS background check system is...how the hell is that the fault of Joe Average Gunowner? I wasn't aware it was my turn to do the dbase management this month.

And now they want*moar* from NICS, including ammo and mag purchases. Yes, it'll be a resounding success, I'm sure.

Please Lord, save us from those who make it their business to save us from ourselves.

Posted by: Jaws at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (4I3Uo)

86 For the coming coalition of red/constitutional states, I'd like to propose "The American Republic" as moniker (anything with "Federation" is a bit too Star Wars, no?)

We'd still get to use patriotic songs with "USA" in the lyrics, and phrases like "God Bless the USA" even if we don't technically own the name, since the communists who took over won't want anything to do with them anyway.

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (7ObY1)

87 Electronic Systems Have Not Reduced Healthcare Cost

Word. We ditched a completely workable inhouse written EMR and Clinical system to go with the Democrat-donating recommended companies under threat of having our Medicare reimbursements massively cut if we didn't.

Crony cocksuckers the whole lot of them.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 11, 2013 09:52 AM (evdj2)

88 In this country, no manshould beso important as to require lifetime protection paid for by the State.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:53 AM (o1kXv)

89 WRT Ben Shapiro. Aurora was done mostly with a shotgun. The shooter's rifle with the 100 round drum jammed.

So what if the last X number of mass shootings were done with a rifle (maybe). The vast number of homicides are indeed done with handguns. 500+ in Chicago last year alone.

Posted by: CUS at January 11, 2013 09:53 AM (84pE9)

90 Did I mention it cost us millions of dollars that could have gone toward patient care?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 11, 2013 09:53 AM (evdj2)

91 88 Colorado Alex,

all of this is the result of US grant dying broke....

we are not electing first citizens anymore we elect self-feigned God-Emperors.

Let it burn

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 09:54 AM (LRFds)

92 I don't get the last story. Don't ex-presidents already get lifetime SS protection?

They used to, but the law changed. Clinton was the last to get the lifetime benefit.

I hope GWB has made excellent arrangements for when he drops off the program in 2019.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 09:54 AM (GBXon)

93 Nevergiveup,

USS Miami is a 688 Los Angeles class fast attack boat.
USS Virginia is a 744 Virginia class fast attack boat.

They would need to cannibalize another 688 boat. Assuming the forward pressure hull was not dis-tempered by the heat of the fires.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (KnIgz)

94
I found that I can type into the main Bing page and search by hitting "enter", but that's all. From there everything works as normal. But the main Bing page is pretty much dead to me. I've tried turning off noscript and ghostery, but with no luck. Maybe it's some other add on/s I have that is/are screwing things up.

Note to self:

Never EVER leave auto-updates on in Firefox.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (tOkJB)

95 public safety could be enhanced if owners of rifles with external
magazines of bullets were required to have permits similar to those with
handguns.


So now a .22 bolt-action with an "external magazine" would require a permit?

F that noise.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (5DR1j)

96 Did I mention it cost us millions of dollars that could have gone toward patient care?
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 11, 2013 09:53 AM (evdj2)


There you go with your common sense bullshit again. Just how in the hell could the DNC have gotten that big kickback from GE for the contract? Think Man, Think.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (l86i3)

97 In this country, no manshould beso important as to require lifetime protection paid for by the State.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:53 AM (o1kXv)




Barry: I plan on being prezzy for life. So what am I supposed to do?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (1Jaio)

98 Anyone who thinks that SCOAMF, Joe Bidet and Holder are considering anything but a gun-grab is deluding themselves.

The fact that they are announcing their intentions on Tuesday after a meeting yesterday shows that this - like national health - has been waiting in a desk drawer for months if not years or decades.

Dog and pony show. The Reichstag is on fire and no one sees flames let alone smells smoke.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (XkWWK)

99
If we apply the Constitution to children, we cannot have compulsory education because of the 13th amendment.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2013 09:42 AM (T0NGe)


I have long thought that Constitutional rights only apply to adults, not children. What rights the children might exercise in this regard can only be construed to exist from the Umbrella of the parents rights.
Free speech for children is an utter crock.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (bb5+k)

100 anything with "Federation" is a bit too Star Wars

"Federation" is Star Trek. Star Wars was the Rebel Alliance (actually, the Alliance to Restore the Republic, which may be fitting in and of itself).

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 09:56 AM (GBXon)

101 In Connecticut, rifle sales do not require
background checks or training, while those who seek pistol permits, have
months of training, and background and character reviews.

CTPost



Mmmm -- that sweet sweet bipartisanship....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (kdS6q)


Umm....I'm in CT. I have a CCW permit....it did not require 'months of training' or 'character reviews' (thank God!). It required one gun class....that I went to on a weekend day.

I *think* the character reviews depend on what town you live in for the initial permit and before you go to the state police. After that, the renewal is only done by the state police....no town involvement.
Unless it has all changed in the past 2 years.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 09:56 AM (X6akg)

102 100 Cavil,

Allied States of America

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 09:57 AM (LRFds)

103 “You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

-Chicago Police Superintendent Garry

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 09:57 AM (fWAjv)

104 Seems counterintuitive; why would you be in favor of killing in the womb what you wish to fondle in the crib?

It's more about destroying the evidence so your victim's parents don't find out.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ (BAN ALL THE THINGS!) at January 11, 2013 09:57 AM (ZKzrr)

105 Not true. Random drug sweeps at schools, anyone? The
cops can come in and search any locker they please. No warrant. No
probable cause. Not even reasonable suspicion. They just need curiosity.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:51 AM (5DR1j)

The cases I have seen the school may search but not the police. These "temporary" suspension of rights depend on the theory of "in loco parentis". In short the school is acting as a temporary parent. Police do not fall under this theory.

And yes, I am sure some places have allowed police to do this as well. I am also sure that if the parents took it to court the police would lose.

But again, who has $3.5M to go to court.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:57 AM (53z96)

106 Brother Cavil unless someone is talking of the Federation in Blake's 7. Now that was a right nasty tyrannical regime.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:57 AM (KnIgz)

107 That Shapiro clip is the best pron I have ever seen.

Posted by: Dish of Red at January 11, 2013 09:57 AM (Dmq63)

108 Unfortunately, in my business which is presently Workers Comp claims, 90% of the claimants I deal with abuse pain medication.The problem lies mostly with their dealer , uh I mean doctor.

When I worked at a medical unit this was an ongoing problem. The doctors were actually limited in what they could do to stop it. The problem is that there was a mentality that you have to stop or prevent any pain, and so painkillers, especially the heavy duty stuff, started getting proscribed like candy. As well, addicts get very good at lying and doctor shopping when they need to.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:57 AM (o1kXv)

109 The 'only ones'

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 09:58 AM (fWAjv)

110 I don't get the last story. Don't ex-presidents already get lifetime SS protection?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 09:34 AM (JPrdt)


The Dems changed the law from lifetime protection to a period of just ten years, no doubt hoping GW Bush would be exposed and killed (here in Houston, GHW Bush's residence is well known, and nothing stops you from driving up to the end of the street his house is on). But now that their boyfriend Barry is in his second term and it helps one of their own they changed it back.

I personally think former Presidents should all have lifetime protection; there are only a few alive at any one time anyway, and obviously there are crazy people everywhere these days. So I don't object to them extending protection to Obama, but it says a lot about the left that they would want to expose Bush that way. The left are nothing but hypocritical, hate-filled losers to their very core.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 11, 2013 09:58 AM (bS6uW)

111 Wait though, did the attack sub captain blame the other ship for being in its way?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:47 AM (da5Wo)



I think the more important question was if it was trying to parallel park.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 09:58 AM (VtjlW)

112
They would need to cannibalize another 688 boat. Assuming the forward pressure hull was not dis-tempered by the heat of the fires.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (KnIgz) Anna, how do you know this stuff? You're just a girl!

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 09:58 AM (ZDsRL)

113 They would need to cannibalize another 688 boat. Assuming the forward pressure hull was not dis-tempered by the heat of the fires.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (KnIgz)

OK so I screwed up the classes ( after all I am only a Navy Dentist), but they do have an LA Class boat they can use to repair the Miami. One benefit of being up in Groton a lot is hearing about what's going on at Electric Boat. They still plan on repairing the Miami, but that could change

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 09:59 AM (9Bj8R)

114 @95

If they do that then all rifles will have to move to internal box magazines like my Marlin XL- has.


Unless "clever" lawyers when they are writing the law realize that internal box magazines exist we can have some pretty "mean" looking rifles with 30 round internal magazines.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 10:00 AM (RrD4h)

115 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:55 AM (KnIgz) Anna, how do you know this stuff? You're just a girl!
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 09:58 AM (ZDsRL)

Some girls like Harliquin Romances, some girls like Janes Defense weekly.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:00 AM (l86i3)

116 Not true. Random drug sweeps at schools, anyone? The cops can come in and search any locker they please. No warrant. No probable cause. Not even reasonable suspicion. They just need curiosity.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:51 AM (5DR1j)

They really don't even need curiosity. The locker is the property of the school, not the student.

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 10:00 AM (fWAjv)

117 jwest, I hope that was snark. Or I may have to plead with Queen AlextheChick I of the Stalwart and Virtuous SMOD to borrow Polly.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (KnIgz)

118 I have long thought that Constitutional rights only apply to adults, not children.

So you have no problem with abortion, then?

Constitutional rights are merely outgrowths (well, the first 10, anyway) of our Natural Rights. Natural rights don't care if you're an infant, toddler, child, adolescent, or adult. You have them anyway.

Children are not somehow morally inferior to adults, and should not be treated as such.

Further, if it's based on age, it's not a "Right" it's a privilege. And if it's a privilege it can be taken away by mere legislation.

" I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Stuff Ben Franklin really did say.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (5DR1j)

119 I wonder who has secret service protection via executive order?

Valerie Jarrett, I suspect. And I expect she told Barky that if she didn't get it for life, she'd have Reggie deported.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (zF6Iw)

120 They really don't even need curiosity. The locker is the property of the school, not the student.
Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 10:00 AM (fWAjv)


Exactly. You have no more expectation of privacy at school than you do at work.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (l86i3)

121 As well, addicts get very good at lying and doctor shopping when they need to.

They don't even bother with the doctor half the time...call a pharmacy, pretend to be from a doctor's office. My dad gives the pharmacies security questions. If you don't know the name of his mother's penultimate cat, no Oxycontin for you.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (ZKzrr)

122 106 And one of the all-time great villains, too. You can see her spiritual daughter on FarScape, plain as day.

And frankly, Trek's Federation sort of creeps me out. Way too Euroweenie-UN-transtellar socialist, at least from TNG on. Human nature was handwaved just a tad much for my likes.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (GBXon)

123 anna is brilliant that's how jwest

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 10:02 AM (GVxQo)

124 120 They really don't even need curiosity. The locker is the property of the school, not the student.
Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 10:00 AM (fWAjv)


Exactly. You have no more expectation of privacy at school than you do at work.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (l86i3)


I seem to recall something about "penumbras." /s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 10:02 AM (XkWWK)

125 What's stupid about the handwriting story is, it takes more than just one signature to confirm a writing.

So, it's stupid, ineffective, over-bearing, a waste of time, assumes everyone is a criminal while avoiding actual police work and pointless.

Or: Par for the course for the modern day men in blue.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2013 10:03 AM (imtbm)

126 That caveman assault weapon is scary, but I'm holding out for a high-capacity jawbone of an ass.
Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 09:33 AM (O7Q1u)

I don't think Piers Morgan will give up his jawbone so easily.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 11, 2013 10:03 AM (DrWcr)

127 117jwest, I hope that was snark. Or I may have to plead with Queen AlextheChick I of the Stalwart and Virtuous SMOD to borrow Polly.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (KnIgz) Naturally that was all in good fun.Now, stop all this talk about distempered pressure hulls and go make me a sammich.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 10:04 AM (ZDsRL)

128 They don't even bother with the doctor half the time...call a pharmacy, pretend to be from a doctor's office. My dad gives the pharmacies security questions. If you don't know the name of his mother's penultimate cat, no Oxycontin for you.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (ZKzrr)


One of the stupidest things the states and feds have done is requiring you have both your DEA # and NPI # on your RX pads. Talk about giving the addicts a key to the candy store.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 10:04 AM (9Bj8R)

129 Some girls like Harliquin Romances, some girls like Janes Defense weekly.

I'm getting this mental image of a 'Know Your Suitors' silhouette recognition chart now, like those old ones for aircraft and naval vessels.

Sort of like the ONT's occasional pieces on Gingers, but for the straight distaff set. And just outlines.

...I'm convinced I was born about 50 years late.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 10:04 AM (GBXon)

130 Now, stop all this talk about distempered pressure hulls and go make me a sammich.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 10:04 AM (ZDsRL)

Oh Dude, I would rather tickle a tigers ass in a phone booth than be you right now.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:05 AM (l86i3)

131 The locker is the property of the school, not the student.

Except that you are given a combination for the locker (some schools even require that you bring your own combination lock), indicating that your stuff is yours, and not the school's.

The amendment doesn't say, "Shall be secure in their person and their papers unless their employer decides to give the Government the combination to the lock."

As for "expectation of privacy," (different comment, I know, but same theme): Does that phrase exist in the Constitution, or is it an emanation or penumbra?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 10:06 AM (5DR1j)

132 Some girls like Harliquin Romances, some girls like Janes Defense weekly.


You haven't lived till you had sex with a girl in camies

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 10:06 AM (9Bj8R)

133 jwest, I hope that was snark. Or I may have to plead with Queen AlextheChick I of the Stalwart and Virtuous SMOD to borrow Polly.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (KnIgz)



Plead, schmead, here you go. Please to be noting the pretty new bows added to the tactical vest. I think the sparkles really bring out her claws.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 10:06 AM (VtjlW)

134 Guns have to remain simple pieces of machinery. Why? Because the more complex it becomes, the greater the chances of failure. Every time I pull the trigger, I expect the gun to fire without fail. Every. Time.
Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 09:37 AM (GQ8sn)

especially after an EMP goes off...

Posted by: Lynne at January 11, 2013 10:06 AM (+Uv5V)

135 But we, as a society, long ago decided that "secure in their person,
papers, and effects" did not apply to students, for some reason.
==========

Lemme fix that for you:

But the Supreme Court (fuck you, Sandra Day O'Conner), long ago decided that "secure in their person,
papers, and effects" did not apply to anyone, because it limits the power of the state.

That Amendment is dead, dead, dead. It's funny that people think it means anything after forced blood testing for DUI and random DUI checkpoints have the full blessing of the courts.


Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2013 10:07 AM (imtbm)

136 One benefit of being up in Groton a lot is hearing about what's going on at Electric Boat

Ah, my post Tech school employer before I went in the Army. And now you know why I went in the Army, not Navy

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 11, 2013 10:07 AM (8cJXl)

137 Thanks PG, though would declaim brilliance. I just know a lot of trivia. Mostly useless.

Nevergiveup. Its okay. As OSP knows my mil-tech geek will erupt on occasion and clamor for expression. They will probably strike USS Miami if all this theatre of funding continues.

No matter what happens, the US Navy will shrink below 300 ships with TFG.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:08 AM (KnIgz)

138 especially after an EMP goes off...
Posted by: Lynne at January 11, 2013 10:06 AM (+Uv5V)

yeah and how are they gonna check the gun registry after the EMP attack?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 10:08 AM (9Bj8R)

139 You haven't lived till you had sex with a girl in camies.

"You haven't lived till you've had a blowjob from your commanding officer."
- Col. Nathan Jessup

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 10:09 AM (zF6Iw)

140 Oh Dude, I would rather tickle a tigers ass in a phone booth than be you right now.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:05 AM (l86i3)


He likes you OSP. He really likes you!

Too bad you smell like popcorn now.


http://tinyurl.com/a2qlwtr

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 10:09 AM (fWAjv)

141 >>Are there women attack sub skippers in the navy?

Yeh, it had stopped to ask for directions, i.e., put the periscope up.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 10:09 AM (SUKHu)

142 Nevergiveup. Under blackout conditions aboard ship, sure that was a girl in those bell-bottoms? o.O;;;;

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:09 AM (KnIgz)

143
So you have no problem with abortion, then?

Constitutional
rights are merely outgrowths (well, the first 10, anyway) of our
Natural Rights. Natural rights don't care if you're an infant, toddler,
child, adolescent, or adult. You have them anyway.


Posted by: AllenG at January 11, 2013 10:01 AM (5DR1j)


The Right to live is a human right. It is, as you say, a "natural
right", and as such it need not be enumerated (and it is NOT enumerated
in our constitution.) it is axiomatic.


It is the notion that children have 1rst, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc rights which is nonsense. Their PARENT'S have these rights, and whatever access to these rights the children may possess is only through their parent's exercise of these rights.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 10:11 AM (bb5+k)

144

You haven't lived till you had sex with a girl in camies
Posted by: Nevergiveup


Just because it's camo, doesn't mean it's ugly
http://tinyurl.com/aotmd7a

Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 10:11 AM (v4HdX)

145 Except that you are given a combination for the locker (some schools even require that you bring your own combination lock), indicating that your stuff is yours, and not the school's.


That protects your property from other students, it is made clear the school has all combinations.


The amendment doesn't say, "Shall be secure in their person and their papers unless their employer decides to give the Government the combination to the lock."


When your desk is owned by the employer they can do whatever they want.


As for "expectation of privacy," (different comment, I know, but same theme): Does that phrase exist in the Constitution, or is it an emanation or penumbra?


I don't know what those fancy words mean. However, I sure as shit am not paying taxes so children can flaunt there already perceived superiority against those that are in control of the school. Invasive searches, Body cavity, DNA, etc? Hell no. Not without a parents permission or a warrant. But that locker? Oh yeah.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:11 AM (l86i3)

146
"You haven't lived till you've had a blowjob from your commanding officer."
- Col. Nathan Jessup


This is why we're considered a "smart military blog".

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 10:11 AM (ZDsRL)

147 "Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers who attended the event said Thursday they learned a lot about the nuances of assault-style weapons similar to the rifle Adam Lanza used to kill 20 children and six adults last month at Sandy Hook Elementary School."
At least two news outlets have admitted that the "evil black rifle" was NOT used in the attack and the killer was found with 4 handguns on his person.
One does not simply walk into a school with a rifle and no one notices.

Posted by: gdonovan at January 11, 2013 10:11 AM (BCk1S)

148 Thank you my most puissant and gracious Majesty. Methinks jwest doth deserve all the tender mercies of Polly for that last comment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:11 AM (KnIgz)

149 EMP? I prefer E.L.P.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 10:12 AM (XkWWK)

150 Anna Puma is brilliant and give the horde hot Russians.

Nevergiveup nevergives up and keeps his eye on the military and terrorists and whats hap in Israel

and it is not surprising an abortion lobbyist likes child pron. Its about not valuing the lives of children, or seeing them as human

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:12 AM (Dnbau)

151
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.) will not seek a sixth term in 2014, the Associated Press reports. Rockefeller would have faced a tough challenge from Rep. Shelley Moore Capito (R) in the conservative state




I've got 5 bucks that the Republicans still manage to eff it up somehow.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 11, 2013 10:12 AM (kdS6q)

152 >>And yes, I am sure some places have allowed police to do this as well. I am also sure that if the parents took it to court the police would lose.

But again, who has $3.5M to go to court.

They should try it at that school district where they gave kids laptops and then turned the webcam on remotely for "security". Iirc, a bunch of parents were lawyers and sued the pants off the SD.

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 10:13 AM (S8IQW)

153 You haven't lived till you had sex with a girl in camies
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 10:06 AM (9Bj8R)


first date with future hubby was in camies watching a patriot missile battery swivel. Hawt.

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:14 AM (Dnbau)

154 and it is not surprising an abortion lobbyist likes child pron. Its about not valuing the lives of children, or seeing them as human

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:12 AM (Dnbau)

Ah, the sick ass talent of total objectification.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:14 AM (l86i3)

155



Video: Syrian Rebels Praise Bin Laden, Celebrate Destruction Of Twin Towers On 9/11…

Thanks to Obama these people are our “allies.”


Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 10:14 AM (9Bj8R)

156 TSA at the schools. I can't wait.

Rubber gloves, examine your photo ID under that blue light, undress down to your base level whatever that is, no belts, no wallets, empty your fucking pockets, all your shit goes into the plastic bin, then you get pulled aside after the scanner for a feel-up and body cavity search.

This, so you can pick up your grandson from pre-school.

And grandson was subject the the same, when he went in. And by the way, since you must accompany grandson to the classroom and sign him in each morning, you had to do it this morning, also.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at January 11, 2013 10:14 AM (PH+2B)

157 EMP? I prefer E.L.P.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Lucky Man

Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 10:15 AM (v4HdX)

158 I prefer E.L.P.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton


I saw them once in concert back in the day, but for some strange reason I don't remember much

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 10:17 AM (9Bj8R)

159 My coins, my coins, my coins, from my lovely lady loins.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at January 11, 2013 10:17 AM (vzUSW)

160
95public safety could be enhanced if owners of rifles with external
magazines of bullets were required to have permits similar to those with
handguns.


Here's my permit.

Posted by: Constitution at January 11, 2013 10:17 AM (Usuai)

161 A lot of people that spent $2500 on an $800 dollar rifle are going to feel really foolish and used when this is over with.


Only one they have to blame is themselves.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 10:17 AM (GFM2b)

162

The anonymous journalist piece is great from legalinsurrection.com , and so is it's current headliner.

Beautiful:

Miles apart: Walker to cut income tax, Rahm to ban guns

Just a little more than an hour apart, but world’s away in leadership are Mayor Rahm Emanuel of Chicago and Wisconsin’s Governor Scott Walker. Thursday, Walker announced today that the budget he will sign this summer will include “significant” cuts to the income tax rates. Rahm, on the other hand, plans to introduce a gun ordinance.


black and white

Posted by: beach FriedDay at January 11, 2013 10:18 AM (LpQbZ)

163 just let the Vandals loot DC.

or elect Democrats.

Oops.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2013 10:18 AM (I3vTd)

164 Rubber gloves, examine your photo ID under that blue
light, undress down to your base level whatever that is, no belts, no
wallets, empty your fucking pockets, all your shit goes into the plastic
bin, then you get pulled aside after the scanner for a feel-up and body
cavity search.



This, so you can pick up your grandson from pre-school.



And grandson was subject the the same, when he went in. And by the
way, since you must accompany grandson to the classroom and sign him in
each morning, you had to do it this morning, also.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at January 11, 2013 10:14 AM (PH+2B)


An Edmund Burke phrase that I am fond of quoting covers this.

"a nation is not governed, which is perpetually to be conquered."


i.e. you can't FORCE people to behave. You have to TEACH them to behave or they will be ungovernable.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 10:18 AM (bb5+k)

165 The majority of Americans prefer Genghis Khan to Congress? I doubt the majority of Americans even know who the fuck Genghis Khan was.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 11, 2013 10:19 AM (vg8iE)

166

Ben Shapiro, the Happy Warrior, as he calls himself, never lets us down.

Posted by: beach FriedDay at January 11, 2013 10:19 AM (LpQbZ)

167 161 RickB223,

You know oddly enough I built my last AR for about 675 bucks.


Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:19 AM (LRFds)

168
So its armed protection for me and my family, but not you and your family according to prez Oentitled.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 10:20 AM (p/cQy)

169 Amazing how many people kept telling themselves it would not come to this point. So they pushed off looking into self-protection. And now that the wolf is at the door huffing and puffing, they find no weapons to defend them.

Ants and grasshoppers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:20 AM (KnIgz)

170 TSA at schools?


Maybe they can finally get their GED and get a job burger-flippin'.

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 10:20 AM (fWAjv)

171 Guns have to remain simple pieces of machinery. Why? Because the more complex it becomes, the greater the chances of failure. Every time I pull the trigger, I expect the gun to fire without fail. Every. Time.

The kingdom was lost for the want of a primer.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 10:21 AM (GFM2b)

172 They should try it at that school district where they gave kids laptops and then turned the webcam on remotely for "security". Iirc, a bunch of parents were lawyers and sued the pants off the SD.
Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 10:13 AM (S8IQW)



Suburban Philly and yeah. The school district attempted to claim that of course no one ever ever ever watched any kid change, of course not!


Leaving aside the whole remote monitoring thing, I ask again, did no one working at the school ever meet a teenager? Who the fuck thought giving teenagers webcams was a good idea? Yeah, they will only use them to remotely collaborate on school project. Yup. That's it. Not a single other thing.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 10:21 AM (VtjlW)

173 I still think the JEF is gonna demand huge fees for permitting guns, claiming the cost of background checks and need for revenue. Like a tax. A gun tax

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:21 AM (Dnbau)

174 158 I saw them once in concert back in the day, but for some strange reason I don't remember much
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 10:17 AM (9Bj8R)


August 1974, Saratoga Performing Arts Center.

Wow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 10:22 AM (XkWWK)

175 169 Ms Puma,

hey people like me who called the President a sack of shit because of the stink in my nose were "nuts"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:22 AM (LRFds)

176 EMP? I prefer E.L.P.

ELO, myself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 10:22 AM (zF6Iw)

177 176 ELO, myself.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 10:22 AM (zF6Iw)

Yes.

and YES, too.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 10:23 AM (XkWWK)

178 all the fancy private schools have guards. Have forever.

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:23 AM (Dnbau)

179 Oh, and ELO > ELP.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (GBXon)

180 all the fancy private schools have guards. Have forever.
Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:23 AM (Dnbau)

Yep, my schools principle had a new bulge under his jacket.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (l86i3)

181
99.99% of people prescribed narcotics "abuse" them to some degree because they provide euphoria. Some people gobble them like candy, others may just take an extra pill or two now and then. But almost everybody does it.

I have chronic lower back pain and it's very difficult for me to get Vicodin prescribed more than twice a year. And they barely touch the pain. And besides the tendency for abuse, narcotics have all sorts of other nasty side effects like constipation.

I've been charged with my father's medications (he's 89 years old) and I'm trying to find the minimal amount of Vicodin that will relieve his pain without turning him into a bound-up zombie. Since he has pains that come and go with age it's tough.

Narcotics are an evil necessity. Their use (in the population) will always entail some abuse. But suffering through the pain is also truly horrible.

Those are the facts. If we are going to allow the use of narcotics we need to face up to them and act accordingly. Edicts from assholes like Bloomberg aren't going to solve anything.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (tOkJB)

182 @173 - I thought the same thing. The same thing they did to cigarettes - tax them into unaffordability. Diabolical.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (vg8iE)

183 3 ELO partisans within 4 posts. Decent scatter there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (GBXon)

184 180 OSP,

My asst principle was armed...it was an open secret.

"Winkhammer"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (LRFds)

185 Sven, many saw. Some believed. But not enough did so. So here we are at a crossroads. One way leads out while the other leads to Hell before ascending again.

OSP as long as the bulge is not in the pants its all good.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:26 AM (KnIgz)

186 181 Ed Anger,

I avoid the pills for precisely that reason.

Not "tough guy" I have a very addictive personality, and used pills and booze for a joy button.

If you see me taking even a tylenol 3 you know I'm hurting.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:26 AM (LRFds)

187 A lot of people that spent $2500 on an $800 dollar rifle are going to feel really foolish and used when this is over with.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:30 AM (l86i3)

Agreed, found a guy who got me mine list -10% and it's on the way. Wasn't going to get raped by some idiot on a used gun trade site.

Only qualm I got is it isn't the m1a that I wanted but it is a ptr91 scout carbine so there's that. Now I just gotta wait for some tulammo to become available. According to multiple forums 308 from winchester seems to not be very consumer friendly. But the tul ammo is $9 a box compared to the 30-40 a box so there's that.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:26 AM (UZQM8)

188 185 Anna Puma,


Long and hard is the road that out from darkness leads into light.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:26 AM (LRFds)

189 @181 - I bet Mikey Bloomberg will have as many narcotics as he needs whenever he needs them, though. That fucking piece of shit.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 11, 2013 10:27 AM (vg8iE)

190 No matter what happens, the US Navy will shrink below 300 ships with TFG.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:08 AM (KnIgz)

Oh great...another war monger. What good did Reagan's 600 ship navy do?

What? Free 300,000,000 people living behind the iron curtain?

Racist!

Posted by: Just another willing fool at January 11, 2013 10:27 AM (GsoHv)

191 187 Cajun Carrot,

the PTYR-91 is a good weapon, and may be better than the M1/M-14 in a jam anyway just because they are more rugged.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:28 AM (LRFds)

192 No matter what happens, the US Navy will shrink below 300 ships with TFG.


Yeah, that freedom of the seas thing is so Passe'.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:28 AM (l86i3)

193 The best thing about being a red state is that they aren't a magnet for terrorist projectiles like blue states. What does it mean to be blue? It means you never have to think rationally. It means you never have to worry about unintended consequences. It means never having to admit you are wrong as you move like a hummingbird from fuck-up to fuck-up. It means there is nothing to be learned from mistakes, since you never make one that isn't someone else's fault. It means you can do whatever you want because you are "liberal" but those who think differently must be ridiculed and persecuted. It means you can be amoral while hypocrically framing your amoral bullshit ideas in morality. It means the truth is whatever you want it to be. It means you are a stupid piece of amoral shit, and that makes you "elite".

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 10:28 AM (OlN4e)

194
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:26 AM

Scout carbine is a fine rifle. Inre ammunition, when you're comfortable with the rifle take up reloading. You can do a lot with .308 loads and tailor them to specific purposes. It's a pretty versatile round.

Posted by: JohnTant at January 11, 2013 10:28 AM (eytER)

195 193 MadDog,

Just wait until after the divorce if it ever happens.

The reality will be stark in who is hated by whom and whether strength gets more peace than Botox.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:29 AM (LRFds)

196 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:28 AM (l86i3)

Couple of places I read said the PTR91 jams but only due to using the wrong kind of ammo. Glad I read up on that bit but didn't know it at the time, I was just trying to get a good .308 rifle for hunting and defense. Got lucky with the ammo bit. Everyone that has a PTR91 says tulammo and brown bear are perfect for that rifle.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:30 AM (UZQM8)

197 194 john tant,

Yeah I am going to learn procedure with baseline .38 sp and then work up some nice loads for my Swede.

6.5 properly made is a wonderful round.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:30 AM (LRFds)

198 Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (tOkJB)

I've got a guy whose doctor has prescribed 120 vicodin every 10 days for the last 180 days. They patient is no doubt addicted at this point. I am attempting to have doctor wean him off but it will likely take a program. Unfortunately this is not an exception to the rule.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (m2CN7)

199 the echoes of the same events prior to WWII is amazing. Its like we are waiting for a dictator to emerge. Ours or someone elses.

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (Dnbau)

200 99.99% of people prescribed narcotics "abuse" them
to some degree because they provide euphoria.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (tOkJB)

Care to back up that statement with some facts?

One colace or other mild laxative each day will help the constipation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (GsoHv)

201 196 Cajun carrot,

Yeah the problem is they will end the import of ammo I'd wager regardless....

so even 5.56 is going up for good I'll bet.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (LRFds)

202 199 ThunderB,

we already had "ours"

fucking roosevelt.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:32 AM (LRFds)

203 Narcotics are an evil necessity. Their use (in the population) will always entail some abuse. But suffering through the pain is also truly horrible.

Those are the facts. If we are going to allow the use of narcotics we need to face up to them and act accordingly. Edicts from assholes like Bloomberg aren't going to solve anything.
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (tOkJB)



But once again you are pointing out that reality is messy and complicated and there are trade offs and downsides. If we just issues decrees, that will go away!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 10:32 AM (VtjlW)

204 Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (LRFds)

Probably so but I bet there is someone out there that will be willing to pick up the slack.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:32 AM (UZQM8)

205 204 Cajun carrot,

Always is in a free land....

hey where'd the free land go?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:34 AM (LRFds)

206 165 The majority of Americans prefer Genghis Khan to Congress? I doubt the majority of Americans even know who the fuck Genghis Khan was.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 11, 2013 10:19 AM (vg8iE)


That's JENJIS.
People will understand completely once I'm Secretary of State.

Posted by: John F'n Kerry at January 11, 2013 10:34 AM (Qxe/p)

207 the echoes of the same events prior to WWII is amazing. Its like we are waiting for a dictator to emerge. Ours or someone elses.
Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (Dnbau)

If TFG isn't one in training, I don't know what is.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:35 AM (l86i3)

208 Care to back up that statement with some facts?

Aw, you can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forty percent of all people know that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 11, 2013 10:35 AM (ZKzrr)

209 OSP, saying TFG is a tyrant still in diapers?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:35 AM (KnIgz)

210 It takes a lot of effort to be a true tyrant. Zero is just too fucking lazy.

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 10:36 AM (OlN4e)

211 OSP, saying TFG is a tyrant still in diapers?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:35 AM (KnIgz)

Pull-ups.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:36 AM (l86i3)

212
I've got a guy whose doctor has prescribed 120 vicodin every 10 days for the last 180 days. They patient is no doubt addicted at this point. I am attempting to have doctor wean him off but it will likely take a program. Unfortunately this is not an exception to the rule.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (m2CN7)


Do it quick -- he's liable to die from an acetaminophen overdose soon. BTW -- 90% of people who die from Vicodin are killed by the acetaminophen

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:37 AM (tOkJB)

213 Those are the facts. If we are going to allow the
use of narcotics we need to face up to them and act accordingly. Edicts
from assholes like Bloomberg aren't going to solve anything.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:24 AM (tOkJB)

Vicodin is the least effective, IMO. It is like the commercials where they say take a Tylenol for pain. If Tylenol cures it, it ain't really pain.

Best bet is to visit a true pain doc, who can address the actual issue. Sometimes there are mechanical fixes, and sometimes there are implants or other devices that can work against the pain, but sometimes morphine is the only choice. It is addictive, but a long term dose can be worked out that doesn't take away from everyday life. Plus, a pain doc knows all about abuse and how to curb it.

Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 10:38 AM (ZOUmX)

214 Do it quick -- he's liable to die from an acetaminophen overdose soon. BTW -- 90% of people who die from Vicodin are killed by the acetaminophen
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:37 AM (tOkJB)

If they would just legalize drugs all of these problems would disappear. Am I right?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:38 AM (l86i3)

215 Do it quick -- he's liable to die from an acetaminophen overdose soon. BTW -- 90% of people who die from Vicodin are killed by the acetaminophen
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:37 AM (tOkJB)

12 vicodin a day is just below the max acetaminophen allowed daily. It will probably kill him but it would be a slow deathas his liver goes.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 10:39 AM (m2CN7)

216 Must clean Kitchen, must fold laundry, must walk Doggeh. Later rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:40 AM (l86i3)

217 A lazy dictator is worse. "Oh do rid me of that troubling person," he might say. And some very efficient underling will take him literally at his word in order to ingratiate themselves further.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:40 AM (KnIgz)

218 I'm listening to Moron Trivia on Beck and want to kill myself.

Beck to moron (and not the good kind): Name two of the Great Lakes.

Moron: Ummmm.....I should have stayed awake in school (giggles).

Beck: Just name the region in the country.

Moron: Brazil?

Beck: Where does Thai food originate?

Moron: India?

Beck: What part of the body is a bicuspid located?

Moron: The arm?

We're doomed. SMOD, don't let us down.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 10:41 AM (UOM48)

219
Care to back up that statement with some facts?

One colace or other mild laxative each day will help the constipation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (GsoHv)


WTF? like "Global Warming" facts?

How about living with four people who are prescribed narcotics ranging from oxycodone to Vicodin?

And as for your One colace or other mild laxative each day will help the constipation advice, yer as full of shit as my bound-up father.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:41 AM (tOkJB)

220 Lovely flu going around. Had the flu then got strepth throat the other morning. Took 500mg of my bootlegged amoxicillin to nip the strepth throat in the bud, later in the morn notice a little swelling bump on my arm - 6 hours later its gone from 1 inch dia. to 3 inches dia., my kid comes over tells me its a staph infection and I need to get to the hospital. I read up and it is in fact deadly. Up the amox to 1000mg in my system at all times - the staph takes a sharp decline. I might live (knock on wood).

All without a doctor.

Posted by: Whatev at January 11, 2013 10:41 AM (lreFA)

221 Best bet is to visit a true pain doc, who can address the actual issue. Sometimes there are mechanical fixes, and sometimes there are implants or other devices that can work against the pain, but sometimes morphine is the only choice. It is addictive, but a long term dose can be worked out that doesn't take away from everyday life. Plus, a pain doc knows all about abuse and how to curb it.
Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 10:38 AM (ZOUmX)

Most pain doctors I deal with are the cause of the addiction. They also end up having to prescribe other medications to alleviate the side effects which in turn have their own side effects. Its an evil cycle.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 10:42 AM (m2CN7)

222 Yeah I must depart. Don't burn the blog down.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 10:42 AM (KnIgz)

223 hey where'd the free land go?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:34 AM (LRFds)


If history is any indicator its going to be a long long time.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:43 AM (UZQM8)

224
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 10:41 AM (UOM4




Jane, see my definition of liberal above @ 193. Tell me I'm lying.

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 10:43 AM (OlN4e)

225 All without a doctor.
Posted by: Whatev at January 11, 2013 10:41 AM (lreFA)

Can I have your car?

Posted by: eman at January 11, 2013 10:44 AM (tBnjP)

226 I've got a guy whose doctor has prescribed 120 vicodin every 10 days for the last 180 days. They patient is no doubt addicted at this point. I am attempting to have doctor wean him off but it will likely take a program. Unfortunately this is not an exception to the rule.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 10:31 AM (m2CN7)



I can back this up from years working on claimant's side in workers' comp. Client gets hurt and I mean a legitimate injury, not the bullshit that I unfortunately saw too often. Client goes to the doctor who puts them on Vicodin or, my personal fave, Oxycontin. Client takes the pain meds because the doctor told him to take it and hey, he hurts. Client becomes addicted to pain meds.

Then the huge fight starts with the insurance company because the insurance company says we aren't paying comp because you can't work because you're a junkie and we respond with our client can't work because of the work injury sent him to the doctor and the doctor made him a junkie. Meanwhile, you have a person who is now a junkie and will now have to go through withdrawal and rehab.

Having said that, is there anything that can be done to circumvent that situation in the first place? Maybe, maybe not. People who are in pain need pain medication. The current pain medications are addictive. So there's your choice, be debilitated from pain or debilitated from the meds.


I would like to reiterate my loathing for these stupid beta meat sacs.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 10:44 AM (VtjlW)

227 When I had dry socket after I had my wisdom teeth removed, the vicodin did absolutely nothing for me. I still have a bottle somewhere in the house.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 11, 2013 10:44 AM (FsUAO)

228 As an aside, it was a real bitch last week to find an OTC cough suppressant without acetominophen. Nothing hurts (today, anyway; the "everyone with a prescription is just in it for the euphoria" attitude is keeping me from asking for something that will allow me to avoid overdosing on ibuprofen two days a month--I don't want to get high, I just want to sleep through the night without waking up in agony), I just want to minimize my disruption of my workplace. Feh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 11, 2013 10:45 AM (ZKzrr)

229
12 vicodin a day is just below the max acetaminophen allowed daily. It will probably kill him but it would be a slow deathas his liver goes.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 10:39 AM (m2CN7)


That's 3,900 mg/day, just under the accepted 4,000 recognized daily limit.

Except this Monday my father's doctor told me the newly recognized limit is 3,600 mg/day.

Watch for the jaundice to set in.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:45 AM (tOkJB)

230 Aw, you can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forty percent of all people know that.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 11, 2013 10:35 AM (ZKzrr)


They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time - Brian Fantana

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:47 AM (Dnbau)

231 I don't post here often but we lost our doggie last night and my wife and i have a huge void in our lives right now. Dogs are so cool it really hurts to lose them. Sorry for effin the blog.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (KyJvT)

232 I would like to reiterate my loathing for these stupid beta meat sacs.

I look forward to the day my spirit and intellect no longer require one. Whether it's in Heaven or freely roaming the Internet. Or both, just to jack with folks.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (GBXon)

233 Watch for the jaundice to set in.
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:45 AM (tOkJB)

Unless the SOB is selling them which is another issue I have to monitor.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (m2CN7)

234 I knew a pharmacist who was getting kicked out of the service centuries ago. He killed himself with an overdose of Tylenol. He was dead in a month.

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (Dnbau)

235
(looking around to make sure Anna is gone...)

Hey! Where the fuck is my sammich?


Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 10:49 AM (ZDsRL)

236 Chavez I am so sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:49 AM (Dnbau)

237 I was given Demerol for an oil field injury (2nd degree burns). I took the prescribed dosage.....nothing. I doubled the prescribed dosage.....nothing. Tripled the prescribed dosage.......nothing. I guess they just don't work on me. I was given a Qualuude (spelling?) at a party as a young man.......nothing.

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 10:50 AM (OlN4e)

238 Thanks thunderb it's tough

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 10:50 AM (KyJvT)

239 Pain Killers make me vomit, literally. Fuck those things.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:50 AM (UZQM8)

240 237 I was given Demerol for an oil field injury (2nd degree burns). I took the prescribed dosage.....nothing. I doubled the prescribed dosage.....nothing. Tripled the prescribed dosage.......nothing. I guess they just don't work on me. I was given a Qualuude (spelling?) at a party as a young man.......nothing.

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 10:50 AM (OlN4e)


The last time I had a narcotic of any sort prescribed for pain, the doctor asked me if it was working.

I replied that it still hurt like hell, but I really didn't give a damn any more.

That, apparently, is the point of pain medications in general.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 11, 2013 10:52 AM (Qxe/p)

241 Woke up at 4 am with dry heaves and a headache. Now having waves of chills and occasional nausea. Praying it's a cold, not the flu.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2013 10:53 AM (ZshNr)

242 And my 6 Californian kids will soon become Texan kids.

Posted by: gm at January 11, 2013 10:53 AM (K0tm3)

243 Making crackers with soft swiss, pepperoni, and salami. M00chelle will not approve.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:53 AM (UZQM8)

244
Having said that, is there anything that can be done to circumvent that situation in the first place? Maybe, maybe not. People who are in pain need pain medication. The current pain medications are addictive. So there's your choice, be debilitated from pain or debilitated from the meds.


I would like to reiterate my loathing for these stupid beta meat sacs.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 10:44 AM (VtjlW)


That's the exact point I was trying to make. Only people respect your wisdom, not mine.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:53 AM (tOkJB)

245 I don't post here often but we lost our doggie last night and my wife and i have a huge void in our lives right now. Dogs are so cool it really hurts to lose them. Sorry for effin the blog.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (KyJvT)


Oh, Chavez, I'm so sorry! And never apologize for "effin the blog" on something like this - it's what we're here for.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 10:54 AM (zF6Iw)

246 Guards at schools? Just another opportunity to fund another union. Look at TSA and weep for the kids.

Don't do it!

Posted by: PJ at January 11, 2013 10:54 AM (ZWaLo)

247 231 Chavez the hugo,

I'm sorry for your loss.

Man and Dog are both designed to feel each other's loss.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:54 AM (LRFds)

248 231
I don't post here often but we lost our doggie last night and my wife
and i have a huge void in our lives right now. Dogs are so cool it
really hurts to lose them. Sorry for effin the blog.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (KyJvT)


I'm so sorry! Been there....twice. It's a horrible gut punch.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 10:55 AM (X6akg)

249 You know what works better for pain than a lot of narcotics?

Ibuprofen.


Posted by: Al at January 11, 2013 10:55 AM (V70Uh)

250 Its well known that any medicine can be boughten over the Internet without a prescription. Luckily I've never needed any, but if I did I'm sure I could have it in my mailbox quicker than going to the doctor. The site is called Silkroad and isn't accessible through the regular Internet.

Had a friend who broke her collarbone and spent 3 months in severe pain. During that time her one main anxiety besides the constant pain was fear that the doctor would cut her off and he acted like an ass about it every time she visited him.

Posted by: Whatev at January 11, 2013 10:55 AM (lreFA)

251 Maybe, maybe not. People who are in pain need pain medication. The current pain medications are addictive. So there's your choice, be debilitated from pain or debilitated from the meds.


It's the same shit as always, the people killing themselves on this stuff aren't getting it from their doctors. They are getting it from the black market. Also from corrupt dr. with a pad but I still consider that black market.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:55 AM (UZQM8)

252 245 MPPP,

it takes a LOT to eff this blog

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:56 AM (LRFds)

253 241
Woke up at 4 am with dry heaves and a headache. Now having waves of
chills and occasional nausea. Praying it's a cold, not the flu.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2013 10:53 AM (ZshNr)


With those symptoms, prayer isn't going to change it.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 10:56 AM (X6akg)

254 I don't post here often but we lost our doggie last night and my wife and i have a huge void in our lives right now. Dogs are so cool it really hurts to lose them. Sorry for effin the blog.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (KyJvT)


I'm so sorry. The Doggehs run this house, I'm sure you are devastated. Sorry.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:56 AM (l86i3)

255 249 Al,

so does just plain old aspirin....

a true "wonder drug"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:57 AM (LRFds)

256 Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:41 AM (tOkJB)

You made a ridiculous statement, unsupported by any data other than your minuscule experience, and then you tell me that I am full of shit.

You should take some of that vicodin and calm down.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 10:57 AM (GsoHv)

257 Pain Killers make me vomit, literally. Fuck those things.
Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:50 AM (UZQM


Me too, I had to shove a suppository up my ass after shoulder surgery to be able to keep them down.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:57 AM (l86i3)

258 there are a ton of pain clinics in Houston and from the looks of the folks in the waiting rooms, its just a way to supply junkies. Creeps me out

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 10:57 AM (Dnbau)

259 249 You know what works better for pain than a lot of narcotics?

Ibuprofen.


Posted by: Al at January 11, 2013 10:55 AM (V70Uh)


Whiskey, weed, or beer and a lot of comfort food.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:58 AM (UZQM8)

260 Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 10:53 AM (tOkJB)

I don't totally agree that its either / or . Pain tolerance can be learned and masking the pain over a long period of time with narcoticsis only creating further problems. I agree though that once you become a certain age, the benefit of the masking outweighs the consequences.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 10:58 AM (m2CN7)

261 Hey! Where the fuck is my sammich?


Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 10:49 AM (ZDsRL)



Polly is bringing it over.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 10:58 AM (VtjlW)

262 Sorry, Chavez, that's rough. Pets do become part of the family. Ihave a purring cat in my lap right now, it makes being sick a lot more bearable.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2013 10:58 AM (ZshNr)

263 248 Tami,

I cried as hard at losing Beaucanine commonly called 'Bo" as my mom.

He gave me 22 years of service.

Hybrid vigor Sheperd/Wolf is a good one.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:59 AM (LRFds)

264 Hey! Where the fuck is my sammich?


Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 10:49 AM (ZDsRL)


Polly is bringing it over.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 10:58 AM (VtjlW)


Rut Roe, Run Raggy!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:59 AM (l86i3)

265 Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (KyJvT)

No worries!

What kind of dog?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 10:59 AM (GsoHv)

266 256 CBD,

I'd settle for "way too many"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:59 AM (LRFds)

267 Thanks moron horde my day is not complete without a dose of you by the way my doggie hated tfg so i know her heart was right

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 11:00 AM (KyJvT)

268
@227, 237 & 239.

I used to be like that. Narcotics (like just about everything else) affect different people differently. And at different points in their lives.

Which is why edicts from assholes like Bloomberg aren't going to solve anything.

My bet is it will cause more pain and suffering than it prevents.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 11:00 AM (tOkJB)

269 Didn't get a flu shot last year (first time in years) and got the flu.

Kept putting off getting the shot this year. Am going to the Kroger near me today to get it. Hope it's not too late.

I've been trying to avoid places with big crowds, and always, always use those wipes outside the stores to clean off the cart handles.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 11:00 AM (UOM48)

270 dogs can sense things, they know when someone is no good

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:00 AM (Dnbau)

271 I hate TFG too...

Posted by: Waffles, cajun carrot's dalmation at January 11, 2013 11:00 AM (UZQM8)

272 CNN FACTOID (do they still have that?)

What dog name caused a staff member of government to have to resign?

Posted by: Whatev at January 11, 2013 11:00 AM (lreFA)

273 You know oddly enough I built my last AR for about 675 bucks.

All depends on what brand names you go with on parts.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 11:01 AM (GFM2b)

274 I watched Halo 4: Forward unto Dawn last night and I have a question. Is this movie just a setup for playing the game? Is there a movie for all the Halo games? Because it really wasn't bad. Kind of a short and cut rate Starship Troopers thing.

Posted by: toby928© reposting from the dead thread at January 11, 2013 11:01 AM (evdj2)

275 did you ever see that you tube video of the golden playing with the down syndrome toddler? Dogs have souls

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:02 AM (Dnbau)

276 267
Thanks moron horde my day is not complete without a dose of you by the way my doggie hated tfg so i know her heart was right

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 11:00 AM (KyJvT



We hate TFG, too. Mommy keeps fucking up and saying his name. Daddy makes her put money in the TFG penalty jar. She's sad.

Posted by: Jane D'oh's kittehs at January 11, 2013 11:02 AM (UOM48)

277 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 10:57 AM (GsoHv)

Give him a break CBD. The stats do bear out what he says to a degree (not 99.9% but high, I said 90%)at least the Workers Compensaton statistics you can get by State. In Texas, because of the problem, the are implementing a drug formulary where many of the abused drugs are no longer going to be available under Workers Comp.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 11:02 AM (m2CN7)

278 231
I don't post here often but we lost our doggie last night and my wife
and i have a huge void in our lives right now. Dogs are so cool it
really hurts to lose them. Sorry for effin the blog.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 10:48 AM (KyJvT)

Sorry to hear that.

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:02 AM (fWAjv)

279 I've only gotten a flu shot once or twice, when my employer had them come in and do it in a conference room. Haven't had the flu in at least 5 years, I'm probably due.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2013 11:03 AM (ZshNr)

280 We now live in a world where we have to beg, BEG our betters not to take away pain medication and be treated as if we are criminals to get cough medicine!!


How the hell have we been brought so low so fast!!??

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 11:03 AM (RrD4h)

281 I don't post here often but we lost our doggie last night and my wife and i have a huge void in our lives right now.


I am so sorry for your loss.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 11:03 AM (VtjlW)

282 I lost my dad, mom sister and doggie in a span of five years im sick of dealing with loss

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 11:03 AM (KyJvT)

283 257
Pain Killers make me vomit, literally. Fuck those things.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 10:50 AM (UZQM





Me too, I had to shove a suppository up my ass after shoulder surgery to be able to keep them down.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 10:57 AM (l86i3)

Me too. I puke if I walk by a bottle of them.
Which was fun when I had my hip replaced a year and a half ago. I spent the first 24 hours after surgery puking from the pain meds. Oh no, THAT wasn't painful at all.

Then, they decide I needed an anti-nausea shot before the pain med shot. I asked them if the anti-nausea med just came on the market because WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!?
Sent me home with percocete....which, it turns out, gives me ripping headaches. Spent the next 3 weeks taking Tylenol for pain. Yeah...nada.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 11:03 AM (X6akg)

284 Posted by: Chavez the Hugo

Awwww. Sympathies for your loss.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 11, 2013 11:03 AM (ZKzrr)

285 273 RickB223,


How fancy a trigger you want and who made the lower....but "yeah"

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 11:03 AM (LRFds)

286 We hate TFG, too. Mommy keeps fucking up and saying his name. Daddy makes her put money in the TFG penalty jar. She's sad.

Posted by: Jane D'oh's kittehs at January 11, 2013 11:02 AM (UOM4


I can't wait to see the final tally in the jar.

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:04 AM (fWAjv)

287
"I used to be like that. Narcotics (like just about everything else) affect different people differently. And at different points in their lives."

I've never taken any recreational drugs simply because I knew I would enjoy them too much.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 11:04 AM (ZDsRL)

288 The Bamster has lifetime secret service protection. No wonder he feels comfortable about outlawing firearms.
It must be nice living in a gated community with your own armed guard detail. I guess that makes him a "man of the people"!

I have to wonder what the SS (Secret Service) say about him in the locker room?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 11:04 AM (7vs46)

289 So if I just type 8 does it come up as a happy face?

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:04 AM (fWAjv)

290 percocete gives me bad dreams

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:04 AM (Dnbau)

291 287 Jwest,

used "elementary' to fish for questions from the boy on addiction...

he has a poor hand alcoholics on both sides of his bloodline.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 11:04 AM (LRFds)

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:05 AM (fWAjv)

293 ohhhhh

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:05 AM (fWAjv)

294 I've never taken any recreational drugs simply because I knew I would enjoy them too much.
Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 11:04 AM (ZDsRL)

Yep, people don't get addicted because drugs make them feel bad.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:05 AM (l86i3)

295 Chavez- sorry for your loss. It is always tough to lose a friend and sometimes dogs (or cats) are some of the best friends we have.

Posted by: Nighthawk at January 11, 2013 11:06 AM (RSqz2)

296
You made a ridiculous statement, unsupported by any data other than your minuscule experience, and then you tell me that I am full of shit.

You should take some of that vicodin and calm down.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 10:57 AM (GsoHv)


FU CBD.

Where the fuck are your statistics?

I want to see your shit statistics about shit.

And BTW -- the 90% of Vicodin deaths result from acetaminophen statistic can be found from Wiki to almost every other web site about medications.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 11:06 AM (tOkJB)

297 294 OSP,

a lot like video games, web pron, shooting, jogging....you get the point.

I spend a lot of time hiding in patching modding games.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 11:07 AM (LRFds)

298 First time I ever took pain meds was in my twenties, suffering from my first, of two, kidney stones. Puked my guts out. Thought for years I was "allergic" to them.

Had surgery for a torn ACL years later, and told the doc I was allergic to codeine. Discovered very quickly that Tylenol wasn't helping with the pain, agreed to try Vicodan, and presto-chango, the pain was significantly reduced, with no nausea.

Should have known that passing kidney stones on an empty stomach on percocet would make me ill.

Posted by: Jane D'oh's kittehs at January 11, 2013 11:07 AM (UOM48)

299 Thanks everybody for your thoughts it helps to know somebody cares. It really helps.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 11:07 AM (KyJvT)

300 Hey! Where the fuck is my sammich?


Posted by: jwes

Polly is bringing it over.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end.

Rut Roe, Run Raggy!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.


You fool, he'll just die tired!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 11:07 AM (GBXon)

301 296 Ed Anger,

the acetopmenaphin fact is fact.

My liver damage is probably from my pill habit.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 11:08 AM (LRFds)

302
'Sup, y'all?

I see we're still screwed. But it's Friday, so there's that.

Down here, it's almost like springtime. High around 80 today and over the weekend. The birds are chirping, I've been cleaning off the back porch area of Casa Backwardio and may break out the bicycle for a short ride around the area today.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 11:08 AM (yiIja)

303 I spend a lot of time hiding in patching modding games.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 11:07 AM (LRFds)

Yeah, I wrote a book and stay away from people I am drawn to. Once upon a time, I really enjoyed my sustances.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:08 AM (l86i3)

304 How fancy a trigger you want and who made the lower....but "yeah"

There was a poster on Fb that said, "M4 SOP-Mod - It's like Barbie for men!" with an exploded view of all of the accessories. LOL

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 11:08 AM (GFM2b)

305 mother, father, sister and brother are alcoholics. All sober.

I stayed away from recreational drugs, drink only when not sad or upset, and take pain meds very sparingly. Fortunately I haven't needed to. My other sister, who is not alcoholic, take no pain meds. Not even for dental work. I don't know how she doe it.

I have informed my teenager of all of the above, and told him his genetic inheritance is what it is, and he has no business "experimenting" with drugs

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:09 AM (Dnbau)

306 299 Thanks everybody for your thoughts it helps to know somebody cares. It really helps.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 11:07 AM (KyJvT)

Almost put mine down two weeks ago so I just had a touch of the emotion that you must be feeling. Not looking forward to it. But celebrate the fact that you had given him/her the best life on this earth that he/she could have possibly wanted.

(damn dust in my office.)

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:10 AM (fWAjv)

307 t’s hard to keep a straight face on this one, but it’s worth mentioning as one of the strangest cases of alleged misconduct we’ve seen.
The Social Security Administration officially reprimanded an employee whom colleagues accused of continuously “passing gas and releasing an unpleasant odor” that created a “hostile work environment.”
After the Smoking Gun posted the reprimand letter online, the agency said it had withdrawn its disciplinary action against the flatulent worker.
“When senior management became aware of the reprimand it was immediately rescinded,” agency spokeswoman Dorothy J. Clark said in an e-mail to The federal Eye.

The man told a supervisor in July that he would start turning on a fan after releasing bodily odors in his work space, but the manager explained that such action would only “cause the smell to spread and worsen the air quality in the module,” according to the reprimand lette

This guy must be a pleasure to work next to. Can you imagine what he does to the bathroom when he "meditates"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 11:10 AM (9Bj8R)

308 I have informed my teenager of all of the above, and told him his genetic inheritance is what it is, and he has no business "experimenting" with drugs
Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:09 AM (Dnbau)

I really believe there is something to that. Having the "Gene" some people can put it down. Some will put it down when it's gone.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:10 AM (l86i3)

309 Down here, it's almost like springtime. High around 80 today and over
the weekend. The birds are chirping, I've been cleaning off the back
porch area of Casa Backwardio and may break out the bicycle for a short
ride around the area today.


We're experiencing Spring-like weather here too. I saw two bicycles today and a motorized scooter a couple days ago.

It's practically t-shirt weather right now, at a balmy (for mid-January) 35F.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 11, 2013 11:12 AM (SY2Kh)

310 Just got my first paycheck of the year. I prefer to think of it as more versatile and agile than the 2012 model, but really it's just smaller.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 11:12 AM (O7Q1u)

311
I puke if I walk by a bottle of them.
Which was fun when I had my hip replaced a year and a half ago. I spent the first 24 hours after surgery puking from the pain meds. Oh no, THAT wasn't painful at all.


Demerol used to make me very sick to my stomach. After removing 9" of my colon they gave me Demerol IV and it didn't make me sick. Didn't help much with the pain either, though, which is a different story.

Just wondering -- didn't they administer your pain meds IV after surgery?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 11:12 AM (tOkJB)

312 Thanks everybody for your thoughts it helps to know somebody cares. It really helps.

We do. Sucks to lose any member of your family. Sorry for your losses. Been there.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 11:12 AM (GFM2b)

313
Down here, it's almost like springtime. High around 80 today and over the weekend. The birds are chirping, I've been cleaning off the back porch area of Casa Backwardio and may break out the bicycle for a short ride around the area today.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 11:08 AM (yiIja) Are you in Buenos Aires?

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 11:13 AM (ZDsRL)

314 @273,

I just ordered a M!A, a manly rifle.

I saw where a vendor had some AR-15s. I don't really like them, but I thought if Piers and Obama hate them they must be have some redeeming value, so I called about them.

$2275 was the quoted price. I coughed and said "Excuse me, that's too many digits..did you start to give me your social security number by mistake?"

My final decision was to pass on paying that for a 700-900 dollar rifle.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 11:13 AM (7vs46)

315 You fool, he'll just die tired!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, High Priest of the Gods of the Copybook Headings at January 11, 2013 11:07 AM (GBXon)


Stress makes the meat tough also.

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:13 AM (fWAjv)

316 Strongest pain medicine I ever took was tylenol 3 for a pulled tooth. Was given 10 and told to take one, as needed. Didn't really need to but - Took one and it did nothing for the pain. Took the other 9 in close succession and had a pretty good day that day.

Posted by: Whatev at January 11, 2013 11:13 AM (lreFA)

317 In the 70s in coastal Georgia the next several days. One day it's cold and damp, the next sunny and dry. No wonder my husband and I can't stop coughing and sneezing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh's kittehs at January 11, 2013 11:14 AM (UOM48)

318 Demerol used to make me very sick to my stomach.
After removing 9" of my colon they gave me Demerol IV and it didn't make
me sick. Didn't help much with the pain either, though, which is a
different story.



Just wondering -- didn't they administer your pain meds IV after surgery?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 11:12 AM (tOkJB)

Yes, via IV. Immediately after surgery I had one of those med machines, where you press the button for pain meds but that was only on while in recovery....and it didn't really help much.
I had demerol in the past and it didn't make me sick....but I was told that demerol wasn't really used much anymore.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2013 11:15 AM (X6akg)

319 Yeah, got my first check of the new year and took the expected hit. I'll weather if fine I guess, but I am enjoying the bitching by some others.

SCHADENFREUDE MOFO, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 11, 2013 11:15 AM (evdj2)

320 Oops. Removes kitteh sock.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 11:15 AM (UOM48)

321 IDF warns hikers not to enter minefields
Published: 01.11.13, 17:39 / Israel News



The Israel Defense Forces is calling on weekend hikers to avoid entering minefields and other forbidden areas across the country.

Minefields are marked with a red warning triangle, a yellow sign warning of danger and a barbed-wire fence. (Ynet)


1) everyone in Israel knows what that red triangle means

2) anyone who ignores it, as far as I am concerned, is just helping to thin out the genetically challenged from the gene pool

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 11:16 AM (9Bj8R)

322
It's practically t-shirt weather right now, at a balmy (for mid-January) 35F.

The big joke around here was doing your Christmas shopping whilst wearing shorts and a T-shirt (which I've done). With what little is left of my health, this warm weather is much to my liking. Reynaud's sucks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 11:16 AM (yiIja)

323 The Social Security Administration officially reprimanded an employee whom colleagues accused of continuously passing gas and releasing an unpleasant odor that created a "hostile work environment."

I would like it placed into the official AoSHQ record that I do NOT & have never worked for the SSA.
Thank you.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 11:16 AM (GFM2b)

324 60 here today, must take doggeh for walk, later.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:17 AM (l86i3)

325 Google: First paychecks in 2012

Lots of shock and awe from the low-information Obamabots.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 11:17 AM (UOM48)

326 I don't care for the AR-15 peashooter. I have an AK-47 and it is all black with 30 round magazines and scope mounted. Zero would not like it. It just oozes insurrection.

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 11:17 AM (OlN4e)

327 ) everyone in Israel knows what that red triangle means

2) anyone who ignores it, as far as I am concerned, is just helping to thin out the genetically challenged from the gene pool
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 11:16 AM (9Bj8R)

probably worrying about kids sliding down hills what with the 20 year epic snowstorm

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:17 AM (Dnbau)

328 Dammit. "2013"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 11:17 AM (UOM48)

329 Lots of shock and awe from the low-information Obamabots.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 11:17 AM (UOM4


OMG are these people FKN ignert.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:19 AM (l86i3)

330 The ex wife was in the hospital for pancreatitis, and was on some kind of pain medicine. She had to beg the nurses for it, the answer was always no. So I spoke to the doctor who said she can have it as she wants it, up to the point of being lethal (I suppose). No change in the nurses attitude, they continued to act like they were buying the stuff out of their own pocket.

Pulled her out of that hospital and taken to another, where she got her pain medicine by pushing a button in her hand.

Posted by: Whatev at January 11, 2013 11:19 AM (lreFA)

331
Are you in Buenos Aires?

Heh, no. In the phallic state south of Gawja, very near Mouse House South. North of the Purple Av, south of NDH.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 11:20 AM (yiIja)

332 ) everyone in Israel knows what that red triangle means

2) anyone who ignores it, as far as I am concerned, is just helping to thin out the genetically challenged from the gene pool
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 11:16 AM (9Bj8R)

probably worrying about kids sliding down hills what with the 20 year epic snowstorm
Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:17 AM (Dnbau)


Although I do admit that even Jewish Cows don't read so good.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 11:20 AM (9Bj8R)

333 Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 11:13 AM (7vs46)

They had an M1A in stock or are you on a waiting period?

Posted by: Waffles, cajun carrot's dalmation at January 11, 2013 11:21 AM (UZQM8)

334 Love that Obama just signed a bill to give himself Secret Service protection for life (after Congress passed a bill in the 1990's to limit such SS protection for former presidents to 10 years after leaving office).

After all, there really is no way for a former president to earn enough money to pay for his own security, right? Those multi-million-dollar book deals, and multi-million-dollar, post-presidency speaking gigs just aren't enough to live comfortably on, are they?

No, it's only fair that taxpayers foot the bill, along with giving the former president a 6-figure a year pension for the rest of his life, paying for his health care for the rest of his life, and paying for all his "office" expenses for the rest of his life (in Bill Clinton's case, this expense alone costs taxpayers more than $1 million a year).

No, there's clearly no reason why a former president should have to spend his own money on his own post-presidency personal security. Especially when it's so damn easy for those mega-rich multimillionaires to stick taxpayers with the bill. But it's only fair that we pay for it; after all, thanks to our presidents' careful stewardship of our money, we've got plenty of cash to spare!

Posted by: Observer at January 11, 2013 11:21 AM (/sohm)

335 No change in the nurses attitude, they continued to act like they were buying the stuff out of their own pocket. ___
They were hoarding their own supply to sell on the street.

Posted by: kallisto at January 11, 2013 11:21 AM (jm/9g)

336 Rwc thanks and my heart goes out to you it sucks when you know what's coming

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 11, 2013 11:21 AM (KyJvT)

337 What are the odds that Biden's advisory panel on gun control will end up recommending a ban on gum?

I'm thinking about 20%.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 11, 2013 11:22 AM (SY2Kh)

338 Did you know that “media culture, from our TV shows to advertising, is often deeply sexist and normalizes roles that limit everyone”…?

Jane Fonda, Gloria Steinem and some other chick want Obama to use the government to change that:

Media companies have some of the most powerful resources at their disposal in shaping attitudes and culture. But media culture, from our TV shows to advertising, is often deeply sexist and normalizes roles that limit everyone. There is a powerful "bully pulpit" effect to having women at the head of these agencies.

Four important agencies regulating media include the Federal Communications Commission, the Federal Trade Commission, the U.S. Department of Justice's Antitrust Division and the Commerce Department's National Telecommunications and Information Administration.

http://tinyurl.com/bz7vx79

Get the FCC to influence who scripts are written, I guess. Why didn't anyone else think of this sooner?

Posted by: CJ at January 11, 2013 11:23 AM (9KqcB)

339
337What are the odds that Biden's advisory panel on gun control will end up recommending a ban on gum?





I wouldn't be surprised, it plays hell with his walking.

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 11:23 AM (OlN4e)

340 I wouldn't be surprised, it plays hell with his walking.
Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 11:23 AM (OlN4e)

LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:24 AM (l86i3)

341
327 ) everyone in Israel knows what that red triangle means

They have Amish buggies in Israel?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 11:24 AM (tOkJB)

342 Heh.
http://is.gd/MLyY3q


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 11, 2013 11:24 AM (ZKzrr)

343 Oldsailors Poet, I purchased your book yesterday, it should arrive today
or Monday at the latest. Hope it gets here today as I think I'm coming
down with the mange and I think it would be just the tonic I need.

Posted by: jeannebodine at January 11, 2013 11:24 AM (x0dlI)

344 weird story on Fox. Boy kidnapped by paternal grandparents years ago found now. He is 24.

Boy was always raised by paternal grandparents since birth. Mother is "developmentally disabled". Father not involved in any way other than conception. Mentally disabled mother goes to court for custody and wins. Grandparents go into hiding with the boy that had always raised. He is a man and married now.

How was the boys life with grandparents? How would it have been different with mentally disabled single mother? Would his life been better or worse?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:24 AM (Dnbau)

345 How do you know that your president is a skinny, pencil-necked pussy of a man?

He signs a bill for Lifetime Secret Service Protection instead of exercising his 2nd Amendment rights by learning how to use a firearm.

Posted by: Fritz at January 11, 2013 11:24 AM (w3+gB)

346 A bunch ofpeople who never mention politics on Facebook are dropping F-bombs and calling out Obama (and his voters). Here's one of them: "Please join me with my new charity "Beat a Welfare Recipient Walk." The first of every month we will be marching to the Welfare Office and confiscate cell phones, cigarettes and any drugs found on any recipient of welfare. We will also be visiting several grocery stores and watching food stamp purchases, any alcohol or cigarettes bought will confiscated. All items will then be sold to drug dealers for cash and then all proceeds will go tot the real "needy", the middle class. Obama sucks ass!! My name isXXXXX XXXXXand I approve this f'n message."

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2013 11:24 AM (ZshNr)

347
They were hoarding their own supply to sell on the street.

Posted by: kallisto at January 11, 2013 11:21 AM (jm/9g)


A nurse did that to a friend of mine. He made sure she was caught.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 11:25 AM (tOkJB)

348 I have evaluated or treated countless and I mean countless geriatric cases in nursing facilities who were under-medicated for pain due to the restrictions imposed by the state. Many of them lived hellish lives in pain. I sure there is pain medication abuse. Those helpless old people were being abused by the system. I am wary of blanket statements about painkillers from anyone who hasn't needed them and been unable to get them.

Posted by: SurferDoc at January 11, 2013 11:25 AM (6H6FZ)

349
What are the odds that Biden's advisory panel on gun control will end up recommending a ban on gum?

Anyone see Ben Shapiro's epic smackdown of Piers Morgan. That was a thing of beauty. PM is an insufferable ass. I wish we'd deport him to the supervision of Jeremy Clarkson.

He called our Constitution "our little book." Fuck him and all those like him. And the diseased horse he rode in on, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 11:25 AM (yiIja)

350 Just let it ride CBD. Some people can't hold a civil convo.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 11:26 AM (da5Wo)

351 The mouse/hawk video is a gem

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:26 AM (8sCoq)

352 Posted by: jeannebodine at January 11, 2013 11:24 AM (x0dlI)

Well, thank you so much. I hope you enjoy it. If you are so moved I would appreciate a review on Amazon. Thanks again.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:26 AM (l86i3)

353
A bunch ofpeople who never mention politics on Facebook are dropping
F-bombs and calling out Obama (and his voters). Here's one of them:
"Please join me with my new charity "Beat a Welfare Recipient Walk." The
first of every month we will be marching to the Welfare Office and
confiscate cell phones, cigarettes and any drugs found on any recipient
of welfare. We will also be visiting several grocery stores and watching
food stamp purchases, any alcohol or cigarettes bought will
confiscated. All items will then be sold to drug dealers for cash and
then all proceeds will go tot the real "needy", the middle class. Obama
sucks ass!! My name isXXXXX XXXXXand I approve this f'n message."


That's f'n awesome!





And racist!!!!!!


Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:27 AM (GQ8sn)

354 Tired of Hollywood portraying American history in a positive light? Showtime wants to "edgy" history revision. Which means Oliver Stone is about to get paid again:

That search for a usable past has been taken up in a new form by filmmaker Oliver Stone and historian Peter Kuznick in both their Showtime television series, "Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States," and in the accompanying book of the same name. Mr. Kuznick, who wrote the volume and whose outlook frames the series, is frank about his mission.

He once wrote in a book of essays that he sees his role as a professor to be that of "creating a bridge between leftist and more moderate students," so that he can "try to radicalize some of the more moderate and liberal students" who accept our political system instead of working for real radical change. Those who support "liberal capitalism," he wrote, are "blind to the lessons of history."

Posted by: CJ at January 11, 2013 11:27 AM (9KqcB)

355 345
How do you know that your president is a skinny, pencil-necked pussy of a man?

He
signs a bill for Lifetime Secret Service Protection instead of
exercising his 2nd Amendment rights by learning how to use a firearm.




Seriously. Before signing the bill, he would have had the standard ten years protection, and with all the sweet, sweet speaking droning gigs he'll live off of forever, he could easily afford the best protection.


Firearms and protection for me, but not for thee, bitchez!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 11:28 AM (UOM48)

356 OT: CDC: Flu Accounted for 7.3 Percent of US Deaths Last Week.

Choomboy should give another speech banning the flu. For the Children, of course.

Posted by: Big McLargehuge at January 11, 2013 11:29 AM (e8T35)

357 @326, Maddog,

I'm more of an SKS guy (have 10) but AK's I love em, but only have 2! A Yugo underfolder and a chopped Yugo AK pistol. I had a lot of 30 round magazines and some 20 round tanker mags but with all the leftist ban the mag BS going on, I decided to pick up a few more 30 rounders a few weeks ago. I paid $9.995-$11.95 for 6 of them. And picked up another 75 round drum.

I just looked today and mags are going for $39.95! Sheesh!

I had to Laugh.

I have a theory about those evil black guns. Paint em white and put a 'Hello Kitty" sticker on them and some flower decals and a peace sign.

Maybe the left will like them then.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 11:30 AM (7vs46)

358 "To all my facebook friends that voted for Obama:1. You're a jackass2. Thank you for the increased tax in my paycheck this week. I am happy to help those on welfare have iPhones and keep more people out of work while I get to work for my income...way to go!""My paycheck is missing a lot more money. This sucks! Thank you president Obama!"

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2013 11:30 AM (ZshNr)

359 No, there's clearly no reason why a former president
should have to spend his own money on his own post-presidency personal
security. Especially when it's so damn easy for those mega-rich
multimillionaires to stick taxpayers with the bill. But it's only fair
that we pay for it; after all, thanks to our presidents' careful
stewardship of our money, we've got plenty of cash to spare!

Posted by: Observer at January 11, 2013 11:21 AM (/sohm)


Can't bleed a turnip. Once it burns, he will get what the rest of us get, which is bupkus.

Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 11:30 AM (ZOUmX)

360 Choomboy should give another speech banning the flu. For the Children, of course.
Posted by: Big McLargehuge


Nah. Little opportunity to attack conservatives or erode the Constitution any more than he has by doing so.

To the Links!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2013 11:31 AM (djdc7)

361 A bunch ofpeople who never mention politics on Facebook are dropping F-bombs and calling out Obama (and his voters). Here's one of them: "Please join me with my new charity "Beat a Welfare Recipient Walk."

Would be interesting to know how many of the now "outraged" voted for teh JEF.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 11:31 AM (GFM2b)

362 Anyone see Ben Shapiro's epic smackdown of Piers Morgan. That was a thing of beauty. PM is an insufferable ass. I wish we'd deport him to the supervision of Jeremy Clarkson.

He called our Constitution "our little book." Fuck him and all those like him. And the diseased horse he rode in on, too.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 11:25 AM (yiIja)


A couple of times now. Absolutely smacks the shit out of Piss.

The only thing I didn't like was the 100 percent background check and Ben using the 'assault rifle' terminology.

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:31 AM (fWAjv)

363 Just When You Thought Soviet Propaganda Was Dead

http://tinyurl.com/bgx9zbz


Oliver Stone's new Showtime project.

Posted by: CJ at January 11, 2013 11:33 AM (9KqcB)

364 76 ELO, myself.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 10:22 AM (zF6Iw)

Yes.

and YES, too.


I was quite pleasantly surprised to find out last summer that YES still kicks ass on stage. The new singer, who is also singer for Knoxville, TN's own Glass Hammer, is really good. Some people don't want to hear that, but the Jon Anderson Cult needs to get over it. Dude is a legend but with his health issues, he can't do stadiums anymore.

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 11, 2013 11:33 AM (7ObY1)

365 rick, that one voted for Romney, but he's a quasi-State employee so he never mentions it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2013 11:33 AM (ZshNr)

366
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 11:30 AM (7vs46)




I have an SKS too. But converted it into a hunting rifle. The AK is fit only for what it was designed for. Too crude for a sporting weapon.

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 11:34 AM (OlN4e)

367 I'm sure some of them didn't vote, but at least they're outraged. 90% of my FB feed is people from Massachusetts, with all that that entails.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2013 11:35 AM (ZshNr)

368 @362 I saw Ben Shaprio's smackdown of Piers!

I did not like the assault rifle terminology either. There is no select full auto fire switch, it is not an assault rifle.

'Assault Rifle" as it refers to semi auto's is a lame stream media 'made up" term.



Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 11:36 AM (7vs46)

369 Would be interesting to know how many of the now "outraged" voted for teh JEF.

My guess? 100%

Those that didn't vote for him already knew the whole story, so their outrage happened before, during, and right after the election. All this new righteous ragey outrage happening now are the rubes waking up to see they got hustled.

Hey assholes!!! We told you so! You guys fucked us all.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:36 AM (GQ8sn)

370 I'm more of an SKS guy (have 10) but AK's I love em, but only have 2!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean


Any hints or tips for what to look for in an AK for the uninitiated?


Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2013 11:36 AM (djdc7)

371 348I have evaluated or treated countless and I mean countless geriatric cases in nursing facilities who were under-medicated for pain due to the restrictions imposed by the state. Many of them lived hellish lives in pain. I sure there is pain medication abuse. Those helpless old people were being abused by the system. I am wary of blanket statements about painkillers from anyone who hasn't needed them and been unable to get them.
Posted by: SurferDoc at January 11, 2013 11:25 AM (6H6FZ) I had the answer to this problem some years ago.People who were tired of living in pain could volunteer to take an all expense paid luxury cruise on a ship that would provide the best drugs available in quantities that would guarantee a wonderful week.Of course, the ship would return to port empty each week.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 11:36 AM (ZDsRL)

372
Forget my sammich.

Where the fuck are my line breaks?

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 11:37 AM (ZDsRL)

373 Any hints or tips for what to look for in an AK for the uninitiated?

Never buy from a guy named Sergei, Yuri, or Ivan.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:38 AM (GQ8sn)

374 Posted by: Observer at January 11, 2013 11:21 AM (/sohm)


They didn't get to be millionaires by spending their own money...

Posted by: Waffles, cajun carrot's dalmation at January 11, 2013 11:38 AM (UZQM8)

375 Too crude for a sporting weapon.

Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2013 11:34 AM (OlN4e)


An elegant weapon for a more civilized age. For over a thousand generations, the Constitutional Conservatives were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times... before TFG.

Posted by: RWC now with a lightsaber. at January 11, 2013 11:39 AM (fWAjv)

376 Sign that Ashley Judd may be serious about running for Senate: she showed up courtside at the Kentucky-Vanderbilt basketball game last night in full UK regalia. She has been conspicously absent from UK games for the last few years and has never sat courtside, where the cameras can't miss her.

Posted by: rockmom at January 11, 2013 11:39 AM (NYnoe)

377 "Assault Rifle" as it refers to semi auto's is a lame stream media 'made up" term.

The medias made up term is "assault weapon".

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 11:39 AM (GFM2b)

378 They were hoarding their own supply to sell on the street.

Posted by: kallisto at January 11, 2013 11:21 AM (jm/9g)



A few years back I get a call from an irate client who was at her pharmacy trying to get her pain meds filled and the pharmacist told her that the workers comp carrier was denying the refill because she had been sent those via home delivery. She starts screaming at me about how dare we approve that. I finally get her to stop long enough to say I have no idea what she's talking about, we never agreed to that. Looooong story short, turns out that the secretary for the insurance company was signing up pretty much everyone for home delivery of their narcotics and then either putting in different delivery addresses or sending people out to the homes to steal the packages when they arrived.

It was an utter nightmare to get that straightened out because hey all the DEA cared was that the script had been filled and nope she couldn't have more, too bad so sad.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 11:39 AM (VtjlW)

379 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 11:39 AM (VtjlW)


Anyone that would do that to another person needs to be skinned.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:41 AM (l86i3)

380 #364 Is Rick Wakeman still playing with YES?

Posted by: rockmom at January 11, 2013 11:41 AM (NYnoe)

381 This morning I received my LAST paycheck. I'm officially a bum. A BUM.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:42 AM (8sCoq)

382 381
This morning I received my LAST paycheck. I'm officially a bum. A BUM.


Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:42 AM (8sCoq)

I'm pretty sure it is spelled M-O-R-O-N.

Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 11:43 AM (ZOUmX)

383 380
#364 Is Rick Wakeman still playing with YES?



http://www.yesworld.com/


No.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:43 AM (GQ8sn)

384 345 How do you know that your president is a skinny, pencil-necked pussy of a man?He signs a bill for Lifetime Secret Service Protection instead of exercising his 2nd Amendment rights by learning how to use a firearm.

The next (R) prez - PBUH - ought to tell Barky he's signing an EO getting rid of ALL security for former POTUSes, then pull out a Mossberg. "But don't worry, Mr. ex-president; I brought this as a gift so the man of the house will always have protection."

Then give it to Mooch.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 11:43 AM (zF6Iw)

385 just don't be a hobo

Posted by: Thunderb at January 11, 2013 11:43 AM (Dnbau)

386 When I blew out a couple of disks in my neck it changed my whole outlook on injured people. I would have killed to get out of the never ending pain. When there is nothing you can do to rub it away, and knowing it won't end can kill your soul. Without pain meds I would have blown out my brains.

After a few years and many epidurals I took myself off of Oxycontin over a long weekend. A very, very long weekend. But, I will never shit on anyone who will do anything to end the pain.

Posted by: Invictus at January 11, 2013 11:43 AM (OQpzc)

387 Snowing like hell in Vail. High on Sunday? ZERO! Sat? FOUR.

Think I will watch some football and get drunk, fuck skiing in this shit.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at January 11, 2013 11:44 AM (tWFaN)

388 This morning I received my LAST paycheck. I'm officially a bum. A BUM.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:42 AM (8sCoq)

Welcome to the club my friend. Now you can go find a part time job working for idiots that are cleary your inferior at a fraction of your prior wage. It's the new normal.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:44 AM (l86i3)

389 This morning I received my LAST paycheck. I'm officially a bum. A BUM.


Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:42 AM (8sCoq)

No, you are now a hobo. I would sleep with one eye open.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:44 AM (GQ8sn)

390 Marija Sestak, slovenian female triple jumper http://is.gd/Dz6PNL

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:44 AM (8sCoq)

391 Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:42 AM (8sCoq)

Think of it as going galt. Yeah, I know, not voluntary isn't really galt. But you can have a beer first thing in the morning.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 11:44 AM (p/cQy)

392 @ 366. I like the SKS. Its just something about them that calls to me. I started collecting them. First a Yugo M66A1, then another one. Then a Yugo M59, A Russian, a Chinese (Norinco), 2 early Chinese from the Albanian contract, 2 true Albanian July 10th rifles and a Romanian.

I'm still looking for the DDR, the North Korean Model and the Vietnamese one..all rare even pricier than the Albanians.

I love the Yugos..just bought 2 grenade launching devices and 2 inert practice grenades along with some blanks to fire them off the gun. The wife freaked..she thought they were real! I had to laugh!

IMO the SKS is a bit more accurate than the AK and reaches out about 50 more yards with precision even though both are 2-4 MOA rifles.

Now the M1A I just ordered should put em both to shame!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 11:44 AM (7vs46)

393 Demerol used to make me very sick to my stomach. After removing 9" of my colon they gave me Demerol IV and it didn't make me sick. Didn't help much with the pain either, though, which is a different story.




I used to get a list of RNs who had lost their nursing license and the reason was almost always Demerol abuse. Nurses were caught replacing injectable Demerol with saline. A lot patients were getting saline instead of the Demerol their doctor had ordered.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at January 11, 2013 11:45 AM (6BgmB)

394 Forget my sammich.Where the fuck are my line breaks?

You'll get nothing and like it!

Posted by: Judge Pixy Smails at January 11, 2013 11:45 AM (zF6Iw)

395
I was quite pleasantly surprised to find out last summer that YES still kicks ass on stage. The new singer, who is also singer for Knoxville, TN's own Glass Hammer, is really good. Some people don't want to hear that, but the Jon Anderson Cult needs to get over it. Dude is a legend but with his health issues, he can't do stadiums anymore.

I've seen Yes several times live (though not recently) and they always put on a great show. Anderson and Squire have summer homes in the area. They're supposed to play over in Melbourne soon, wish I had the scratch to go see them again. The Classic Lineup of Howe, Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Sqire is my all-time favorite, followed very closely by the 90125 assembly.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 11:45 AM (yiIja)

396 The crazy thing about pain is that a very tiny part of your body can cause the rest to just not function any more. I get mechanical headaches that make me puke, which worsens the headache, which makes me dry heave, etc. When people say "the pain is all in your head," they are correct, but that changes very little in my ability to cope.


How do you hold down a steady job when a headache can derail your entire day?


And yes, when it hits, I would do anything to get rid of the pain, but by then it is too late.


Until you go through it, you cannot know.

Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 11:46 AM (ZOUmX)

397 The next (R) prez - PBUH - ought to tell Barky he's
signing an EO getting rid of ALL security for former POTUSes, then pull
out a Mossberg. "But don't worry, Mr. ex-president; I brought this as a gift so the man of the house will always have protection."



Then give it to Mooch.



Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 11:43 AM (zF6Iw



That's some brilliant thinking right there. *applause*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2013 11:46 AM (UOM48)

398 Well, I always wanted to be a cowboy. Now's my chance.

I need your clothes, your boots, and your horse.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:46 AM (8sCoq)

399 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 11:45 AM (yiIja)


My wife dragged me to a Moody Blues concert a few years back, never really cared for them, it was a great concert.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:46 AM (l86i3)

400 364 Is Rick Wakeman still playing with YES?


http://www.yesworld.com/


No.


Geoff Downes is back in the fold, the past few years. YES has to keep that stable of past keysmen in rotation.

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 11, 2013 11:46 AM (7ObY1)

401 Welcome to the club my friend. Now you can go find a part time job working for idiots that are cleary your inferior at a fraction of your prior wage. It's the new normal.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:44 AM (l86i3)


I turned down an offer for one of those yesterday.
The company's management team flunked my interview.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 11, 2013 11:47 AM (Qxe/p)

402 I turned down an offer for one of those yesterday.
The company's management team flunked my interview.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 11, 2013 11:47 AM (Qxe/p)


LMAO.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:48 AM (l86i3)

403

goodness
Dennis Miller's depression over the JEF's re-election is making his shows morose.

I have been playing music, mostly, all day long, now. Soul/R&B one day, Classic Rock another, Rock, and today The 70's (LOL) -- which was a bit before my time, but it's nowhere's near as bad as others have claimed.

Let's all be the Ben Shapiro Happy Warrior and tear down the Piers Morgans of the world. That video was candy.

Posted by: beach FriedDay at January 11, 2013 11:48 AM (LpQbZ)

404 Now the M1A I just ordered should put em both to shame!


Not an M1A, but...

http://youtu.be/zGiJKRzBG74

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:48 AM (GQ8sn)

405 45 Former Abortion Lobbyist Nabbed in Pedophile Sex Sting ----
I gotta say, that was a narrow escape for me...

Posted by: Aborted Fetus at January 11, 2013 11:48 AM (SO2Q8)

406 I've seen Yes several times live (though not recently) and they always put on a great show. Anderson and Squire have summer homes in the area. They're supposed to play over in Melbourne soon, wish I had the scratch to go see them again. The Classic Lineup of Howe, Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Sqire is my all-time favorite, followed very closely by the 90125 assembly.


My favorite lineup too, but Wakey prefers doing shows with Anderson and doing his own things these days. As long as Howe and Squire still have it, and they do, I'm in. Squire was magnificent last tour. I've never seen thousands of people so enraptured by a bass solo. Or multi-bass solo, I should say. He manages to get 3 or 4 basses into it.

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 11, 2013 11:49 AM (7ObY1)

407 Where the fuck are your statistics?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 11:06 AM (tOkJB)

You made a patently stupid statement, and I questioned whether there were any data to back up your idiocy.

Your answer is to question my statistics?

You are dumber than I thought.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 11:50 AM (GsoHv)

408
Just put on my Facebook Page.... wonder what kind of reactiona I'll get... LOL



I have to say this, even though I will get berated for it.
The PURPOSE of the Second Amendment is not allow us to hunt, nor to even protect ourselves. It was created so the Populace can defend itself against a Tyranical Government. Its clear that is what the Founding Father's intended from writings such as the Federalist, and ANTIFederalist Papers. They KNEW that Governments rise and fall, and that the only way the populace gets a say in the REPLACEMENT of a Failed Government, is if it is Armed.
America is being driven bankrupt, by its own Government... a Government which seems impotent to solve the problems... this WILL if unchecked, lead to Governmental Failure... any reading of History shows this...
... And now? They wish to 'Ban' the very guns which would allow the Public to have any chance against the Tyranical Government the Founders feared....
As the Chinese Curse says.... We live in 'interesting' times.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 11, 2013 11:51 AM (lZBBB)

409 >Think of it as going galt. Yeah, I know, not voluntary isn't really galt. But you can have a beer first thing in the morning.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 11:44 AM (p/cQy)


yesterday was pretty busy- I trimmed my beard

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:51 AM (8sCoq)

410 "Woke up at 4 am with dry heaves and a headache. Now having waves of

chills and occasional nausea. Praying it's a cold, not the flu.



Posted by: Lincolntf"

I'm no doctor, but that sounds like the flu. Get to the doctor, ASAP.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at January 11, 2013 11:52 AM (EYEC1)

411 Anyone that would do that to another person needs to be skinned.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 11:41 AM (l86i3)



Apparently, my pursuit of how the hell did this happen was what caused the head of the division at the insurance company to start digging into it and discover what was going on. I had gotten into an actual screaming match with the adjuster who insisted we agreed on it and I insisted we hadn't and she kicked me up to him since she felt I was being a bitch to her which I totally was. I told him I wanted to see exactly what it was that was signed and by whom so we could figure this out. He pulled the file, took one look at the signatures, saw that they were clearly faked and freaked out. He then had all the files pulled and yeah. Major, major problem.

From what we were told about what happened, she'd been doing this for three weeks but she also had only been there for five. The presumption was that this was an organized scam and that she would have quit the next week right before all the shit hit the fan. It was pure coincidence that our client got her meds filled on a different schedule so it got caught early.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 11:52 AM (VtjlW)

412 Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 11:46 AM (ZOUmX)

Acute pain and chronic pain are different and thus should be handled different.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 11:52 AM (m2CN7)

413 Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:48 AM (GQ8sn)

Heh.

This is what I am lusting after....

http://tinyurl.com/ckg7tvw

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 11:53 AM (GsoHv)

414 I hope a new post/thread comes soon, or I'm going to have to actually do some work...

Posted by: Country Singer at January 11, 2013 11:53 AM (L8r/r)

415 OT, but goes to show the Government's idiocy.

Obamacare mandated that insurance policies cover breast pumps for nursing mothers starting Jan 1st.

Of course, that means that anyone nominally interested in getting a pump has ordered one. Now there's a nationwide shortage, and the women who really need the pumps because they have babies in the nicu or on a feeding tube can't get one.

Thanks, government!

Posted by: Lauren at January 11, 2013 11:53 AM (wsGWu)

416 Pedophile sex sting?
You're not using enough lube.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at January 11, 2013 11:54 AM (7WMcg)

417
The last actual "paycheck" I received was in the Fall of '97.

Like Bernadene Peters said in "The Jerk", "I don't care about the money...I don't want to lose the stuff."

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 11:54 AM (ZDsRL)

418
Ok, so I didn't think Shapiro 'torched' piers morgan. I think he did a fine job, but there were so many opportunities.

Now I do understand that actually being on say Jeopardy is different than playing at home, but that cold medicine thing was an epic opportunity to show how easy it is to get around almost any law that is put in place.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2013 11:54 AM (p/cQy)

419
Jones in CO
Houston Texas

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 11, 2013 11:54 AM (R8hU8)

420 Shapiro did an admirable job of evading Morgan's typical appeal-to-emotion bullshit, but he fucked up when he agreed with Morgan about a national gun registry. I'd give him a B minus. I preferred how the Marine handled Morgan a few days ago.

Posted by: MadisonConservative at January 11, 2013 11:55 AM (Y/HG5)

421 Heh.

This is what I am lusting after....

http://tinyurl.com/ckg7tvw

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 11:53 AM (GsoHv)

I have the little brother to that one. There was a 17 for sale for $300 more, but I heard mags were hard to come by and expensive as shit.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:55 AM (GQ8sn)

422 @ 373..Ak, it be Russian inspired gun. Comrade..here is da rifle. Take good care of it. Siberia be very cold this time of year!

Bad iome to buy an AK. Wasr's (Romanian) are entry level AK weapons. Everyone badmouths them, but I never seen a bad one yet. I fired lots of them friends had. Normally they retail for 399. I seen one tonight for 999. I had to laugh!

Wait it out. Buy some 30 round mags (lots) and some 75 round drums. I have a good feeling they will ban those but grandfather them to those who already have them. They will not ban AK's. They are not that stupid.

After the brew ha, hah dies down, then buy an AK at a normal price. Even the Cadillac of AK's (Yugo Underfolder M70ABT 2) should be 600 bucks or so in normal times!

Buy lots of Ammo! Then have fun slinging lead at the range!

That is the best advice I can give.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 11:55 AM (7vs46)

423 They gotta compete with HBO.

363
Just When You Thought Soviet Propaganda Was Dead



http://tinyurl.com/bgx9zbz





Oliver Stone's new Showtime project.

Posted by: CJ at January 11, 2013 11:33 AM (9KqcB)

Posted by: Pyrocles at January 11, 2013 11:56 AM (cv5Iw)

424 Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 11:52 AM (m2CN7)

Agreed. And I would guess that most MDs are aware of the differences.

The problem with the statistics that some are tossing around is that they are based on selected populations. For instance, the Worker's Comp stats represent a population that has a vested interest in remaining under a doctor's care.

Any observation of society would show that many, perhaps most people do not abuse drugs or other substances. For every narcotics abuse case I'll bet there are 50 prescriptions that are filled once, used until the pain subsides, and then left in a medicine cabinet for five years!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 11:57 AM (GsoHv)

425 310 Just got my first paycheck of the year.

---------

Me, too. The good news is that it's no worse than I thought it was going to be.

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 11, 2013 11:57 AM (xGZ+b)

426 Now there's a nationwide shortage, and the women who really need the
pumps because they have babies in the nicu or on a feeding tube can't
get one.


Sounds like an intended consequence to me.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at January 11, 2013 11:57 AM (ZKzrr)

427 Any hints or tips for what to look for in an AK for the uninitiated?

Look for one that's cheap. Right now, you won't find one.

They are and always have been simple and a bit crude, but even the cheapest versions go "bang" when you pull the trigger. You don't buy an AK for accuracy or visual appeal.

They're fun to shoot though. Something about them just screams "Keep pulling the trigger" after the first shot.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 11, 2013 11:57 AM (SY2Kh)

428 Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 11:55 AM (GQ8sn)

Details! Please, lots of details!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 11:58 AM (GsoHv)

429 >Jones in CO
Houston Texas

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 11, 2013 11:54 AM (R8hU

Oddly enough, that's where my job went

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:58 AM (8sCoq)

430 Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 11:31 AM (fWAjv)


If I wason the end of a Piers Morgan rant... I'd look him straight in the Eye and say... "OK... if England is such a great place a wonderful place... then what are you doing HERE?"

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 11, 2013 11:58 AM (lZBBB)

431 324
60 here today, must take doggeh for walk, later.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet


Good to have a youngster in the HQ. Vic and I welcome you to the club.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at January 11, 2013 11:58 AM (tWFaN)

432 Ok, so I didn't think Shapiro 'torched' piers morgan.

Morgan knew he was being beaten, and badly. That's why he kept interrupting Shapiro whenever he had a head of steam. I can't stand that, whether it's Morgan, Hannity or, worst of all, O'Reilly.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 11:59 AM (YXmuI)

433 I think a trip to the range with the new Model 10 would lift my spirits- it's gonna be way too cold to ride the MC today

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 11, 2013 11:59 AM (8sCoq)

434 I used to get a list of RNs who had lost their nursing license and the reason was almost always Demerol abuse. Nurses were caught replacing injectable Demerol with saline. A lot patients were getting saline instead of the Demerol their doctor had ordered.Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at January 11, 2013 11:45 AM (6BgmB)


My dad has a chronic back condition (badly botched surgery) so he is well acquainted with various pain meds. After his triple bypass last year, a nurse came in with his "pain meds". I forgot what she claimed they were, but my dad had taken that particular med for 15 years, and knew that the little white.pill wasn't it.

He called in the charge nurse, who confirmed.it was the wrong medicine. You've got to be pretty low to steal pain meds from heart patients.

Posted by: Lauren at January 11, 2013 12:00 PM (wsGWu)

435 "Dems Trying To Drive Wedge Between Limbaugh And The GOP"

How, by sitting back and doing nothing? Limbaugh has never been more disillusioned with the GOP than he is at this moment. That wedge was driven by the GOP, not the Dems.

Posted by: holygoat at January 11, 2013 12:00 PM (XnwWl)

436 And yes, when it hits, I would do anything to get rid of the pain, but by then it is too late.


Until you go through it, you cannot know.
Posted by: tcn at January 11, 2013 11:46 AM (ZOUmX)



I get migraines complete with vision disruption, puking, losing feeling in my face, the whole bit.

There have been times that I have seriously contemplated trepanning.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 12:00 PM (VtjlW)

437 @404, I couldn't see that. I'm working in China, youtube is blocked up tight and they even nixxed my VPN.

I bet it was awesome though!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 12:01 PM (7vs46)

438 There have been times that I have seriously contemplated trepanning.

You need that like a hole in the head.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2013 12:01 PM (YXmuI)

439 I have a mini 14 and a AK 15 Russian round. Fuck them. THIS is my favorite weapon now. 30 round clips? Nope FIFTY!


http://tinyurl.com/354hud

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at January 11, 2013 12:01 PM (S1INM)

440 If I wason the end of a Piers Morgan rant... I'd look him straight in the Eye and say... "OK... if England is such a great place a wonderful place... then what are you doing HERE?"
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 11, 2013 11:58 AM (lZBBB)


And just about everyone else that comes here and bitches about America

Posted by: RWC now with a lightsaber. at January 11, 2013 12:03 PM (fWAjv)

441 Yikes, sorry atc. I've gotten those a couple.of times too, and that was a couple of times too many. Scary as hell.

Posted by: Lauren at January 11, 2013 12:03 PM (wsGWu)

442 "The Anonymous Style Threat To Expose More Journalists Personal Information Continues"

This is AWESOME. Alinsky's sword has two edges, and it's about time we started wielding our side of it.

Posted by: holygoat at January 11, 2013 12:03 PM (XnwWl)

443 Details! Please, lots of details!

Have not had a chance to shoot it yet. I bought an Aimpoint PRO and a Magpul VFG and some extra PMAG's. Maybe a sling and that's about all I'll do with it.

One thing about SCAR's and PMAG's is that you need to use the Gen 3's. The Gen 2's and others will cause the bolt catch to rise up a bit and cause damage over time to the bolt carrier.

http://tinyurl.com/bgeja58

The Gen 3's were redesigned to fix this problem.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 12:03 PM (GQ8sn)

444 Like Bernadene Peters said in "The Jerk", "I don't care about the money...I don't want to lose the stuff."

Bernadette Peters. And, while I usually don't care for that baby-doll voice type, for a night in the bunk with her, I'd ditch my principles.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 12:04 PM (zF6Iw)

445 I had the answer to this problem some years
ago.People who were tired of living in pain could volunteer to take an
all expense paid luxury cruise on a ship that would provide the best
drugs available in quantities that would guarantee a wonderful week.Of
course, the ship would return to port empty each week.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 11:36 AM (ZDsRL)
Currently, the families and the facility pretend it isn't happening until their relative is dead.
I have pissed off more than a few people who think they should decide who gets pain meds by asking, "If it was your mother and there was a pill to make the pain go away, would you withhold it?"

Posted by: SurferDoc at January 11, 2013 12:05 PM (6H6FZ)

446 ALextheCHick,

I am old chemist. LSD was originally investigated as a migraine cure. I am not suggesting that course of medication due to :

1.) the side effects.
2.) they don't make the high strength stuff of yore since the early 70's.

But I'm told no one worries about a headache on that regimen of meds.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 12:05 PM (7vs46)

447 @404, I couldn't see that. I'm working in China, youtube is blocked up tight and they even nixxed my VPN.



I bet it was awesome though!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 12:01 PM (7vs46)


It's a top-heavy blonde rocking an M14. And yeah, they're both awesome.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 12:06 PM (GQ8sn)

448
350 Just let it ride CBD. Some people can't hold a civil convo.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 11:26 AM (da5Wo)


Hey -- you're both welcome at my house!!!

I just finished cleaning up my Dad and changing his shitty diaper because I gave him two stool softeners (instead of the normal one) last night because he's been bound up.

All the while with a back that hurts like hell.

Now I'm gonna administer 1/2 of his normal pain meds to see if that's enough to give him relief without him nodding off for three or four hours. You see, he's a fall hazard and the two things don't mix easily. In fact he fell on Dec. 23rd (2:30 AM) and had to get a staple in his head, bled like a stuck pig. I could barely get him out of bed for two weeks after that because of the pain in his lower back. Had to wheelchair him everywhere. Ask any rehab person -- you want to keep people ambulatory as long as possible.

You fucking try it.

You and CBD.

Have my fucking life because it SUCKS.

And THEN try and give me a FUCKING LECTURE.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 11, 2013 12:06 PM (tOkJB)

449 >>438 There have been times that I have seriously contemplated trepanning.

>You need that like a hole in the head.

LOL.
I get migraines and sinus headaches. They swap weeks.
I need to remind myself to stay away from sharp pointy implements while enduring them.
If I didn't know from experience that they;d eventually go away, I don't know what I'd do.

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 12:06 PM (S8IQW)

450 That is the best advice I can give.
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean


Thanks. That makes sense.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2013 12:06 PM (djdc7)

451 finally new one

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 12:06 PM (53z96)

452 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 12:00 PM (VtjlW)

Drilling a hole into the skull of one of your coworkers is an excellent plan to alleviate migraine pain. I have thought about similar things on many occasions.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2013 12:06 PM (GsoHv)

453 Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 12:03 PM (GQ8sn)


Just pulled the trigger and got the Magpul VFG along with a 5-position foregrip (only 10 bucks, what the hell.)

Didn't like the vertical grip I had when shooting prone.

Posted by: RWC now with a lightsaber. at January 11, 2013 12:07 PM (fWAjv)

454
I hope a new post/thread comes soon, or I'm going to have to actually do some work...

I have a nice little project for this weekend: I borrowed a 16-channel Mackie mixing board from my guitar player so I can start doing some recording with all this time I have available from funemployment. Hope I have all the cables I need and that this laptop will handle the signal.

I have no idea what I'm going to do, other than to maybe try to reproduce a couple of tunes I already know. My ultimate goal is to find that Beethoven piece I heard on the radio a few months back and see if I can maybe make an ELP-like version of it. Don't even know the name of the piece, but it was pretty sparse and sounded like it would lend itself to that treatment.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 11, 2013 12:08 PM (yiIja)

455

Twicein the barrel in one day. Might as well rent it for the weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 12:08 PM (zF6Iw)

456 I have a mini 14 and a AK 15 Russian round. Fuck them. THIS is my favorite weapon now. 30 round clips? Nope FIFTY!

I have a buddy with one of those. Interesting and cool looking in addition to being light and very compact, but the rounds are small. Comically small.

I wouldn't want to get hit by one, but I'm still not sure I'd trust them with regards to stopping power.

Then again, they were designed as a submachine gun. One round might not stop a baddie, but ten would.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 11, 2013 12:08 PM (SY2Kh)

457 Didn't like the vertical grip I had when shooting prone.

Posted by: RWC now with a lightsaber. at January 11, 2013 12:07 PM (fWAjv)

Mine's the shorty VFG. It feels good!

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 12:09 PM (GQ8sn)

458 The man told a supervisor in July that he would
start turning on a fan after releasing bodily odors in his work space,
but the manager explained that such action would only “cause the smell
to spread and worsen the air quality in the module,” according to the
reprimand lette



This guy must be a pleasure to work next to. Can you imagine what he does to the bathroom when he "meditates"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 11:10 AM

We can

Posted by: Al Roker's co-workers at January 11, 2013 12:12 PM (wwsoB)

459 Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 12:06 PM (S8IQW)

want to get rid of your sinus headaches? Ask your doctor to prescribe Asterpro spray. Its a non steroidal antihistimine that you can use daily.

I used to get sinus headaches and inflammed sinus frequently. Knock on wood but after using Asterpro daily I haven't had either since.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 12:12 PM (m2CN7)

460
If I wason the end of a Piers Morgan rant... I'd look him straight in the Eye and say... "OK... if England is such a great place a wonderful place... then what are you doing HERE?"

And as for "our little book," the Brits claim to have a Constitution but ... neglected to write it down. So their basic law is an oral tradition, kinda like those pre-literate African tribes with bones through the noses. Good company.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 11, 2013 12:12 PM (DXlwL)

461 Mine's the shorty VFG. It feels good!
Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 12:09 PM (GQ8sn)

Oops. Wrong one. I ordered the AFG. (not the wrong one ordered, but the wrong one I mentioned.)

Posted by: RWC now with a lightsaber. at January 11, 2013 12:13 PM (fWAjv)

462 Bernadette Peters. And, while I usually don't care for that baby-doll voice type, for a night in the bunk with her, I'd ditch my principles.

She was hot.* And talented. (Still does Broadway.) But, yeah, the voice. 'Member the 70s, when she was on Merve Griffin or Mike Douglas or Johnny every week, and would sing and...weep?

And where have you gone Anthony Newley?

*She Steve Martin were a couple for quite some time.

Posted by: CJ at January 11, 2013 12:15 PM (9KqcB)

463 Re: pain meds--I don't like to take them, but when I do they kick ass on the pain.

End of October I had surgery on my left arm. First surgery since I had my tonsils out in 77. So the nerve block wears off and I say "I ain't takin' no fucking Vicodin."

Changed my mind for obvious reasons and popped one. No buzz, but the pain almost completely gone. Popped another before bed and slept like a baby. That was it. 2 Vicodin the day of surgery and all's well for 2 separate surgeries on the same arm.

Month later I got a vasectomy. Popped those fuckers like jelly beans. "Simple procedure", my ass. Fucking nuts swelled up to the size of softballs and turned black. My little white pecker resting on the top looked like a polar ice cap in summer.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholx at January 11, 2013 12:16 PM (szUf0)

464 To the chronic pain sufferers here...

That's a burden I don't yet know, due to nothing but luck. And I am fully aware of that. I doubt I could function, let alone chat, debate, joke and take care of business.

Posted by: CJ at January 11, 2013 12:20 PM (9KqcB)

465 Bernadette Peters. And, while I usually don't care for that baby-doll voice type, for a night in the bunk with her, I'd ditch my principles.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 12:04 PM (zF6Iw)

I know the thread is dead not, but I must post to the greatest female to ever walk the earth. Michelle Carey. I fiirst saw her on an Elvis movie. She was my first crush in this life. I love that kind of voice combined with killer looks.

Posted by: Invictus at January 11, 2013 12:21 PM (OQpzc)

466 Fucking nuts swelled up to the size of softballs and turned black. My
little white pecker resting on the top looked like a polar ice cap in
summer.


This is why I'm so glad the wife got her tubes tied instead.

Posted by: EC at January 11, 2013 12:21 PM (GQ8sn)

467 I'm pissed that I went to a gun show at the Geroge R. Brown convention center prior to the School shooting and passed up gettinga few more .223 magazines thinking I'll pick up some later since I just spent enough getting a few more glock 19 , glock 21, hi point .45 and Beretta 30 round mags.

Dumbass.

Posted by: polynikes at January 11, 2013 12:22 PM (m2CN7)

468 Month later I got a vasectomy. Popped those fuckers like jelly beans. "Simple procedure", my ass. Fucking nuts swelled up to the size of softballs and turned black. My little white pecker resting on the top looked like a polar ice cap in summer.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholx at January 11, 2013 12:16 PM (szUf0)

Mine was pain free. Your doc probably fucked something up, or got you infected. And right after that AIDS hit. Talk about bad timing. Gotta use a damn condom anyway.

Posted by: Invictus at January 11, 2013 12:23 PM (OQpzc)

469 @ 456, mini 14..great rifles! I don't have one but have shot them! I should have bought one years ago. My, my how the prices have escalated on those.

BTW for those who say firearms increase in value, I say they do not (unless you have Jesse James pistol).

They merely hold their value as the FED prints more money! That's my take on it anyway.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at January 11, 2013 12:27 PM (7vs46)

470 There's probably a post on this already but I don't read the blog. Company suing the Dept. of Energy for being a bunch of political fucks.

From the Complaint:
At all times relevant, XPV was unaware both that its ATVM Loan
Program application had been “set aside” in favor of applications from
politically-connected government cronies and that DOE had “fixed” the
ATVM loan process to benefit political donors. XPV also was unaware that
DOE had no intention of approving XPV’s ATVM Loan Program application
under any circumstances, notwithstanding all of its representations and
assurances to the contrary, because XPV competed with government-favored
companies. Instead, to the best of XPV’s knowledge, DOE was acting in
good faith, and in accordance with the law, to carry out Congress’s
intent by lending up to $25 billion for the development and production
of advanced technology vehicles in the United States to reduce U.S.
dependency on foreign oil.

http://tinyurl.com/ar6khq9

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 11, 2013 12:37 PM (szUf0)

471 These historical pictures of the Oval office are fascinating. But, the president's office should be cheerful and up beat, not depressing.

http://tinyurl.com/blw4x5a

Posted by: Caustic at January 11, 2013 12:40 PM (/b8+5)

472 More pictures of the Oval Office:

http://tinyurl.com/d58sj3e

I can't believe they actually work in there. It strikes me as a very uncomfortable environment for getting things done.

Posted by: Caustic at January 11, 2013 12:49 PM (/b8+5)

473 Just went back and looked at the article again. There is a photo shopped picture of the President which is something you would not want to open up at work. I missed the picture completely when I originally posted the link, I'm wondering if it has been added since. It's a shame he included the photo shop, as it's disrespectful to the President and detracts from the great historical perspective in the article. No wonder Bill Clinton was so hyper, look at his office!

Posted by: Caustic at January 11, 2013 01:03 PM (/b8+5)

474 I liked the Shapiro interview I just wish he'd have corrected the Aurora shooting info. Most of the casualties were from the pump action shotgun not the AR-15.

Posted by: ChiConserve at January 11, 2013 02:12 PM (bO/I6)

475 Hey Piers! How does Ben's ass taste? HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Posted by: WaitingForMartel at January 11, 2013 02:28 PM (BYSrJ)

476 "Dems Trying To Drive Wedge Between Limbaugh And The GOP"

Also,

GOP Trying to Drive Wedge Between Limbaugh and The GOP

Posted by: Cackfinger at January 11, 2013 06:40 PM (CCHli)






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