Top Headline Comments 1-11-13

Happy Friday.

Folks that don't like the platinum coin trick because it's silly, though not illegal or unconstitutional, have proposed a new idea that, though it is less obviously silly, is definitely illegal. An IOU is just another form of debt, something Treasury is not allowed to take on beyond the debt limit. Not to mention, IOUs are not a solution to the problem, just another way to delay it and, unlike the platinum coin trick, not even delay it that long.

Sex-selective abortions are already occurring in the UK.

Politico finally figure out something that we've been saying for three years: if you make health insurance more expensive, which is what Obamacare did, health insurance will cost more. OTOH, the writer clearly doesn't realize that placing a new tax health on insurers isn't going to mitigate their additional costs of mandatory new benefits. She seems to think a tax on a business doesn't cost the business anything.

The 8.5 billion foreclosure settlement with banks is just a way to paper over yet another Obama Administration blunder in its failed mortgage reform efforts.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 06:51 AM



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1 If they ever do find a real genetic cause of homosexuality, we'll start seeing sex-preference selective abortions taking place.


After that happens, you can bet the Leftie obsession with abortion will start to die down.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 11, 2013 06:53 AM (U+vgB)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Friday, January 11, 2013. On this day in 1908 the Grand Canyon National Monument was established. It has steadily grown in size as every time a Democrat is in office more land is incorporated to keep out development in the State.


So here we go

reveille; reveille (bangs trashcan with baton)


reveille; reveille (bangs trashcan with baton some more)


Heave out and trice up... Smoking lamp is lighted in all authorized smoking areas.


Rise and shine, morning glories... Up and at' em.


Drop your cocks and grab your socks... Move it ladies. AOS is being served...

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

3 CA will enact some more gun laws on top of the gun laws they already have. It will take someone like the NRA to fight this shit. $3.5M is not within the reach of the average gun buyer. They know this and the commies control CA lock stock and barrel.

http://is.gd/yjTuz4

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:53 AM (53z96)

4 Climatologists throw the BS flag on NOAA’s hottest year on record report.

http://is.gd/zzHday

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:54 AM (53z96)

5 Melissa Harris Perry On Cabinet Diversity: Clarence Thomas Doesn't Represent Blacks


This was in a stupidly vane effort to defend Obama’s lack of women in his court jesters. Just think what she would have said about Bush.

I have some news for you you stupid scrunt, he doesn’t “represent” anyone, he’s a Supreme Court Judge.

http://is.gd/rYSA3Y

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:54 AM (53z96)

6 Gabe be nice, moonbats love the idea of zero point energy so much they see it in economics ajd energy policy too....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 06:54 AM (LRFds)

7 US submarine collides with fishing vessel in the Arabian Gulf. Another captain bites the dust.

http://is.gd/sslkmJ

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:54 AM (53z96)

8 CO Governor calls for more gun control. What is it with these assholes? Do they really want to see the Constitution completely trashed? What we are seeing is a long suppressed need for the communist party to establish control over American citizens. Gun Control has been off the table for decades because voters erupted sending them home. But like all of their schemes they never went away. They just lay dormant like locusts waiting for some event to bring them back.

http://is.gd/7dLKJl

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

9 The scrunt at Politico is braindead.

Posted by: Killerdog at January 11, 2013 06:55 AM (Oi60j)

10 Grandma pulls gun on knife wielding robber. This was in Milwaukee so she will probably be the one to face charges.

http://is.gd/4F3NCZ

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

11 Newark Mayor Corey Booker “hated gays” in college. Are his chances of being the next “Magic Negro” doomed? We will wait to see which group has more power in the Democrap organization, blacks or gays.

http://is.gd/SxTKLo

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

12 Surprising nobody, Ford is doing better than Government Motors. They will add 2200 white collar jobs this year.

http://is.gd/enA12S

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

13 That SC Voter ID law that cost $3.5M to defend still allows people to vote without a photo ID. They can make up any excuse they want for not having one and vote. So why was the law challenged and why did we spend $3.5M defending it?

http://is.gd/7wt1Gk

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

14 If you think big labor is for the common worker, think again.

http://is.gd/Jpby4p

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

15 WT says congress has limited Obama’s ability to do XO for gun control. Hahahaha, what planet have they been living on for the past 4 years?

http://is.gd/NakhrF

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

16 WSJ on why despite the clamor from the MFM and a few commies in congress gun control is going nowhere.

http://is.gd/VAqPAy

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:57 AM (53z96)

17 Heritage Index of Economic Freedom for 2013. The US is down to 10 and dropping like a rock.

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:57 AM (53z96)

18 Repost from the ONT

People involved in mergers talk about how companies sometimes set up poison pills to prevent a hostile takeover. This guy from Bloomberg wants the Republicans it seems to drink the hemlock of removing the debt ceiling so Obama gives up even thinking of issuing a platinum coin. How is this a win for the Republic? Its not.

http://tinyurl.com/bkpqpqe

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 06:57 AM (KnIgz)

19 Kindle Daily Deals

http://is.gd/cE7iIt

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:57 AM (53z96)

20 The Daily Kitteh

http://is.gd/8wDD8g



And that’s it for Friday, January 11, 2013.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:57 AM (53z96)

21




Obama’s nominee for Treasury Secretary Jack Lew is a
revolving-door lobbyist who worked at Citigroup in 2008, and then got a
$944,518 check from the failed bank on January 15, 2009, according to
his financial disclosure statement. That was just weeks after Congress
passed the Wall Street bailout, funneling $45 billion in taxpayer money
to the bank.




Also, in the 1990s, Lew worked at K Street lobbying firm Van Ness Feldman.

This certainly undercuts Obama’s talk about closing the revolving door, keeping out lobbyists, and standing up to Wall Street.
------------------------------

Above is from Tim Carney's Beltway Confidential column in the Washington Examiner






Posted by: Miss Marple at January 11, 2013 06:59 AM (GoIUi)

22 An IOU is just another form of debt, something Treasury is not allowed to take on beyond the debt limit.


As I have said all along, the Platinum Coin dodge is illegal too. Court have taken a dim view in the past to using a loophole in one law to completely subvert another law.


Just because you have deposits in a bank doesn't mean you can go in with a gun and make withdrawals.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:59 AM (53z96)

23 Thanks Vic. Good Morning morons.

Posted by: USA at January 11, 2013 06:59 AM (RIg+t)

24 USS Jacksonville's CO needs relief. Straits of Hormuz where a VLCC could run a 688 over and never notice. And he bangs up a periscope hitting a fishing boat. What was the watch doing? Did no one on the BQS hear the boat?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:00 AM (KnIgz)

25 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:00 AM (KnIgz)




Anytime a CO runs his vessel into another vessel or aground it is almost an automatic relief. Even if he doesn't have the conn at the time.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:04 AM (53z96)

26 This guy from Bloomberg wants the Republicans it seems to drink the
hemlock of removing the debt ceiling so Obama gives up even thinking of
issuing a platinum coin. How is this a win for the Republic? Its not.



The magic word there is "Bloomberg".

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:05 AM (53z96)

27 I know Vic. Look at USS Montpelier. CO just got relieved after hitting USS San Jacinto.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:05 AM (KnIgz)

28 Gov. Haley's husband has deployed with the guard for a year to help Afghans grow dirt or poppies or some crap.

Posted by: NCKate at January 11, 2013 07:07 AM (IYde+)

29 So much for Global Warming. Jerusalem experiences worst snow storm in 20 years.
http://tinyurl.com/agj5lqz

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:08 AM (KnIgz)

30 I think Bloomberg should now be a synonym for 'lotus eater.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:09 AM (KnIgz)

31 There is only one time I know of when a CO who ran aground did not get relieved. The USS Enterprise ran aground on a sand bar going into SF Bay.



He managed to blame it on the engineering watch who did not have the proper "mud watch" set. Said all the condensers silted up and cause a loss of all propulsion and the ship "drifted" on the sand bar.


Amazing that the "drifting" caused there to be scooped in mud and sand by the ton in the condensers and it took half a dozen harbor tugs to get it off.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:09 AM (53z96)

32 25 Vic,

b/c the CO is responsible for EVERYTHING that happens on the boat....

but the PotUS is not responsible for shit evidently and not responsible for anything.

Fuck the American voter. and journalist.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:09 AM (LRFds)

33 Morning all. Over course health insurance will cost more. No such thing as free lunch. My oldest daughter comes off my Military Insurance in 2 weeks and it is going to cost me an arm and a leg to get her health insurance and she is young and healthy.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 07:11 AM (9Bj8R)

34 IT'S A MADHOUSE!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 11, 2013 07:12 AM (QupBk)

35 33 Nevergiveup,

It was for THE Children...the CHILDREN!

You know the 26 year old ones that are allowed to be on EVERY insurance but ours in the military community.

Liberal assholes.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:12 AM (LRFds)

36 So much for Global Warming. Jerusalem experiences worst snow storm in 20 years.
http://tinyurl.com/agj5lqz
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:08 AM (KnIgz)

I think I was there 20 years ago. Woke up in jerusalem to about 6 inches of snow. It was amazing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 07:13 AM (9Bj8R)

37 Toronto School Board Chris Spence has stepped down after it was discovered a poignant editorial he wrote after Newtorn was in fact swiped from others without attribution.

http://tinyurl.com/aw3bqej

Meanwhile Joe Biden is still Vice President

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:13 AM (KnIgz)

38 34 toby928th,

of course it is all okay because the idiot with the magic pen has a "winning smile"


Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:13 AM (LRFds)

39 37 Anna Puma,

Racist

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:14 AM (LRFds)

40 As I have said all along, the Platinum Coin dodge is illegal
too. Court have taken a dim view in the past to using a loophole in one
law to completely subvert another law.


And, as I wrote yesterday, it's not illegal. It's not even a "loophole." It's straight-up, unambiguously the law.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at January 11, 2013 07:14 AM (jZUEZ)

41 You know the 26 year old ones that are allowed to be on EVERY insurance but ours in the military community.

Liberal assholes.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:12 AM (LRFds)

No she had Young Adult thru Tricare for about 250$. She turns 26 in 2 weeks and now it will cost me over 600$ on the open market

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 07:14 AM (9Bj8R)

42 I'm pretty sure I just heard the next Andrew Breitbart. Beck had him on in the morning, and Levin had him on last night for nearly the last half hour. Jason Shapiro, author of "Bullies," and staffer at Breitbart, is phenomenal.


He's a fighter and is urging the GOP/conservatives/TEA Party to take the gloves off and fight like the left does. Ex.: When George Snuffaluffagus is the moderator of a Sunday show or moderator of a debate, flat out ask, "What kind of journalism credentials do you have? You're a former member of the Clinton admin turned TV personality. How could you have any objectivitiy where the Republican party is concerned?"

He entered college at age 16. Breitbart emailed him out of the blue when Shapiro was 17. He's now 27.


You can hear the interview at www.MarkLevinShow.com and click on the archives from yesterday. He came on at 8:35, so head for the end of the broadcast.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 11, 2013 07:15 AM (tQHzJ)

43 but the PotUS is not responsible for shit evidently and not responsible for anything.

Fuck the American voter. and journalist.

Seconded. All those in favor say Aye. All opposed say Nay. The Ayes have it. The motion passes.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 07:16 AM (d0Dmj)

44 You mean Ben Shapiro.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at January 11, 2013 07:17 AM (jZUEZ)

45
DAY 66

1,394 to go


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 07:17 AM (XkWWK)

46 41 NGU,

the law is rather clear that they can't even charge the 250 in civillian plans guy.

That somehow works on "zero point energy" but we pay 250....

because somehow when they cut the check it costs money.

Obamacare has me ready to spit teeth again a friend of mine got laid off and is truly mystified that the employer cosiders Ocare onerous....

I am so lost.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:17 AM (LRFds)

47 And, as I wrote yesterday, it's not illegal. It's not even a "loophole." It's straight-up, unambiguously the law.


Posted by: Gabriel Malor at January 11, 2013 07:14 AM (jZUEZ)

Once again we disagree.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:18 AM (53z96)

48 Good morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. And thanks for the morning briefing, Gabe and Vic. Have we got a trillion-dollar wonder coin yet? Has Preezy Barky O’Genius told math, “Don’t call my bluff” yet?


What an age we live in. Anyway, here are two quick apocryphal stories. The first concerns two bitchy actresses; for our purposes, we’ll say its Crawford and Davis. The two found themselves together one night at another actress’ 50th birthday party. Crawford, knowing Davis’ 60th birthday was coming up, sighed, “Oh, I dread to think about turning 50.”


“Why?”
Davis snapped. “What happened then?”


Another story is about the great theatrical impresario David Belasco. It seems that for several months, a young writer had been pestering Belasco with the script of his sure-fire hit play. Each time Belasco turned it down, the author would come back, saying he’d rewritten it, making it even better than before. Finally, Belasco had enough, and when the writer cornered him at the premiere of a new show, he told the writer that he was sick of seeing the script and wanted nothing to do with it.


“But Mr. Belasco,” the writer wheedled, “isn’t there any way you could put this on the stage?”


Belasco thought for a moment. “All right,” he said, taking the script and handing it to an assistant. “Cut this up and use it for the snowfall scene tonight.”


And that’s it for me. If I can pull my notes (and thoughts together), Monday I’ll tell you the story of an unlucky actress named Peg Entwistle, whose ghost is said to haunt a certain Hollywood landmark.


Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.


And by the way, if you like my stories, why not buy my book, The Director’s Cut: A Theda Bara Mystery, available on Kindle and from Amazon and Barnes and Noble? Help a fellow Moron out, won’t you?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 07:18 AM (zF6Iw)

49
Yiddish Word of the Day:


"Luftmentsh" - an airhead, someone with is head in the clouds, a dreamer. Person who has no business, trade, calling, nor income.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 07:19 AM (XkWWK)

50 Toronto School Board Chris Spence has stepped down after it was
discovered a poignant editorial he wrote after Newtorn was in fact
swiped from others without attribution.

http://tinyurl.com/aw3bqej

Meanwhile Joe Biden is still Vice President
Posted by: Anna Puma
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I'm not sure if Anna really wrote this....

Posted by: American Dawg at January 11, 2013 07:20 AM (trA4n)

51 "Luftmentsh" - an airhead, someone with is head in
the clouds, a dreamer. Person who has no business, trade, calling, nor
income.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 07:19 AM (XkWWK)

Ah JJ, I used that one yesterday on Ace's thread about the words we didn't have in English.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:20 AM (53z96)

52 Barky's on the choom....he won't go away....

it's an omen

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:22 AM (LRFds)

53 Wow, two gambling addicts in British Columbia have been granted a class action lawsuit against the Crown monopoly that runs the casinos. These two gentlemen voluntarily entered a program so if they were found in any casino they would be removed. Well they kept sneaking back in and losing.

So with me so far? Well they are suing to get their pitiful winnings because they are in the addiction program the casinos have refused to give them their winnings. My head hurts, one guy has lost since entering the program $399k and is suing to win $35,000.

http://tinyurl.com/b9x7ky3

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:23 AM (KnIgz)

54 53 Anna Puma,

well the law has been reduced in many ways to a lottery ticket....why not turn it into a game of Keno....?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:25 AM (LRFds)

55 Is that American Dawg? Not sure.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:25 AM (KnIgz)

56 Casinos are a magnet for deadbeats and cocksuckers. Every shithole city that puts them in to "revitalize" the dump is tapped out of common sense ideas to grow their economy.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 11, 2013 07:26 AM (7wVg1)

57 I have never understood the game of Keno. So that makes sense.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:26 AM (KnIgz)

58 http://youtu.be/olHnyslc-OM

Prodigy- Omen

http://youtu.be/uuGRawSOLmc

Bad Reputation from Kick Ass

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:28 AM (LRFds)

59 Casinos are a magnet for deadbeats and cocksuckers. Every shithole city that puts them in to "revitalize" the dump is tapped out of common sense ideas to grow their economy.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 11, 2013 07:26 AM (7wVg1)

No shit. They dropped one right in the middle of Milwaukee.

Good mornin Rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:28 AM (l86i3)

60 J.J. -- Wouldn't it be just like God to have such an ironic sense of humor that He had Moses lead the oppressed out of Egype and he could have another member of the tribe lead the oppressed out of the evil Barky regime!

Out for a while. BBL.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 11, 2013 07:29 AM (tQHzJ)

61 Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 11, 2013 07:26 AM (7wVg1)



Vegas and Reno manage to do OK. I used to hit Reno quite often. I would take $20 for gambling and play blackjack all weekend off of that $20. More times than not I came back ahead.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:29 AM (53z96)

62 What part of "The Secretary may mint and issue platinum bullion and proof coins" is not an unambiguous grant of authority from Congress to the Secretary of the Treasury to mint and issue platinum bullion and proof coins?

Vic, at some point you're going to have to admit that simply disliking an idea does not make it illegal.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at January 11, 2013 07:29 AM (jZUEZ)

63 56 Cpt Hate,

hey look it's Shreveport and Columbus Ohio....

cocksuckers.

http://youtu.be/Jvb-VSP0jNM

Al and Wu work out a language

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 07:29 AM (LRFds)

64 And yes, Keno is a sucker's game. The slots pay off a higher percentage.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:29 AM (53z96)

65 60 J.J. -- Wouldn't it be just like God to have such an ironic sense of humor that He had Moses lead the oppressed out of Egype and he could have another member of the tribe lead the oppressed out of the evil Barky regime!

Out for a while. BBL.
Posted by: RushBabe at January 11, 2013 07:29 AM (tQHzJ)


I'd much rather frog-march SCOAMF and the left OUT of my country and to Cuba or North Korea.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 07:30 AM (XkWWK)

66 Casinos are a magnet for deadbeats and cocksuckers.

The ones around here are just holes for throwing away your Social Security check.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at January 11, 2013 07:30 AM (hO8IJ)

67 Generally, when we say there's a "loophole" in the law, we mean that there's a lacunae, that Congress left something out of the statute that enables an unintended result. In this case, the problem isn't that Congress left something out; the problem is that Congress put something in that enables an unintended result.

Congress, in its infinite wisdom, thought that giving Treasury a broad grant of authority to mint and issue platinum coins was a good idea. That was stupid of Congress, but just because it's a stupid law does not mean it's illegal when Treasury exercises that authority.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at January 11, 2013 07:32 AM (jZUEZ)

68 Posted by: Gabriel Malor at January 11, 2013 07:29 AM (jZUEZ)


I recommend you go make a withdrawal from a bank with a pistol and claim that law allows you to withdraw money because you have an account there.


You can not use one law of obvious intent to thwart another law.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:32 AM (53z96)

69 OSP, when's the last time you were in Milwaukee?

I've not been to the casino, but there's all kinds of industry in the valley these days. And the Harley-Davidson museum is a few blocks away.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at January 11, 2013 07:33 AM (hO8IJ)

70 Gadzooks the battle over the winnings of the poisoned lottery winner gets more complicated. Its a Fox News video. Nothing suspicious the guy dies just after eating a dinner prepared by his wife.

http://tinyurl.com/aejzajp

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:33 AM (KnIgz)

71 Casinos are a magnet for deadbeats and cocksuckers.
Every shithole city that puts them in to "revitalize" the dump is tapped
out of common sense ideas to grow their economy.


Posted by: Captain Hate

A few years ago, I went to a casino in Indiana. First time I ever went to a casino, but it was mainly to see a friends son perform. I tried gambling at a slot machine. Boring as hell, and I lost about 10 bucks in 2 minutes. Wheeee! I don't understand the rest of the games, so I went to the bar. After the show, we were walking out, and I noticed...Most of the people here that are gambling, look like they don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. They were standing in line to play the machines.
I do not have any desire to go back.

Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 07:35 AM (v4HdX)

72 Good morning all. MPPP I love your stories and hope to purchase your book offering as soon as I recover from Christmas.

Vic I'm surprised you don't have the Wyoming story up. It might even motivate your wife to pack up the UHaul.

Posted by: small town girl at January 11, 2013 07:35 AM (1zmtP)

73 Not to mention, IOUs are not a solution to the problem, just another way
to delay it and, unlike the platinum coin trick, not even delay it that
long.



Well, isn't buying our own bonds actually the same thing as an IOU? I know the bank certainly won't let me write checks to me and then give me credit for the deposit without also making the withdrawal.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at January 11, 2013 07:35 AM (Gk3SS)

74 - = Casinos are a magnet for deadbeats and cocksuckers. Every shithole city
that puts them in to "revitalize" the dump is tapped out of common sense
ideas to grow their economy.

Posted by: Captain Hate
---------------------------------------------------------

I would have to disagree ! In one case I'm intimately familiar with is Council Bluffs , Iowa which is across the river from Omaha, Ne....We installed Casinos in this town in the mid 90's and it's been very beneficial for this town...Dramatic Improvements for an old worn out Rail Road town and the Nebraskans cross the river to drop their money at the casinos ...

Posted by: American Dawg at January 11, 2013 07:36 AM (trA4n)

75 If the government mints a platinum coin, I'ma steal it, melt it down, and turn it into a ring.

Of course, they'll probably just mint another one to replace it. And another. And another...

Posted by: JDTAY at January 11, 2013 07:37 AM (a0nis)

76 Further more,Edmund Moy, former director of the Mint says it is not legal because the $1T coin would be a bullion coin and there it would have to have $1T worth of platinum in it.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:39 AM (53z96)

77 Vic I'm surprised you don't have the Wyoming story up. It might even motivate your wife to pack up the UHaul.

Posted by: small town girl at January 11, 2013 07:35 AM (1zmtP)

If you are talking about the gun control story I put that up days ago.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:41 AM (53z96)

78
Regarding the Platinum Coin kerfuffle.
At this time, in this country, do the words legal/illegal, constitutional/unconstitutional, even mean anything anymore?
Those words have become a joke, with no meaning. We are a nation ruled by men, not by laws.

Posted by: jj at January 11, 2013 07:41 AM (gWO5X)

79 JDTAY, just go steal catalytic converters from hipster hybrids and take them to a scrap metal dealer. Far easier, less chance of apprehension, and easier to repeat. If you are so inclined, I am not advocating such.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:41 AM (KnIgz)

80 http://is.gd/7wt1Gk

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:56 AM (53z96)

Face it Vic, all politicians (even though with degrees from Harvard and Yale, and especially those with law degrees) are essentially stupid, and it's not like they spent their money on pursuing a toothless law.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 11, 2013 07:43 AM (Cnqmv)

81 Posted by: American Dawg at January 11, 2013 07:36 AM (trA4n)



I'm pretty skeptical that there wasn't an ultimately more productive way for the economy to grow.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 11, 2013 07:45 AM (7wVg1)

82 :::I recommend you go make a withdrawal from a bank with a pistol and claim that law allows you to withdraw money because you have an account there:::

Wut?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 07:46 AM (JDIKC)

83 OSP, when's the last time you were in Milwaukee?

I've not been to the casino, but there's all kinds of industry in the valley these days. And the Harley-Davidson museum is a few blocks away.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at January 11, 2013 07:33 AM (hO8IJ)


I left in 2008. The Harley Museum, Heh, I had a little tiny hand in bulding that. I worked for the motor Co for almost 20 years.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:46 AM (l86i3)

84 Looks like free HBO this weekend. Of course there is not shit on.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:47 AM (53z96)

85 Trying to get a booth at Waterbury gun show for April 12 13. Got a very terse reply from organizer. No permission from City, not taking reservations.

WTF? The honorable city of Waterbury can pull this shit? Anyone have any idea about the legality of gun shows and if zoning can cock block them?

Posted by: CT Moron 2.1 at January 11, 2013 07:48 AM (Xf6HL)

86 Looks like free HBO this weekend. Of course there is not shit on.
Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:47 AM (53z96)


Crank up the DVR. I'll find something to watch for free.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:49 AM (l86i3)

87 Never heard the final verdict...did Jimmy Carter really get attacked by a wild rabbit in his fishing boat?

Posted by: Disco Stu at January 11, 2013 07:49 AM (9ScGj)

88 Crank up the DVR. I'll find something to watch for free.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:49 AM (l86i3)

I don't have a DVR, it cost $10 extra month.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:50 AM (53z96)

89 If the government mints a platinum coin, I'ma steal it, melt it down, and turn it into a ring.

Surprisingly, that often doesn't turn out well.

Posted by: Gollum at January 11, 2013 07:50 AM (YXmuI)

90
Never heard the final verdict...did Jimmy Carter really get attacked by a wild rabbit in his fishing boat?

Posted by: Disco Stu at January 11, 2013 07:49 AM (9ScGj)


Yes he did, and despite all the derision he was right. I is likely that rabbit was rabid.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:51 AM (53z96)

91 Well at the very least this might usher in a constitutional crisis.

Congress has the power of the purse and can raise or lower the debt ceiling and fund things generally or explicitly.

The President does not have the authority to circumvent this ability.

The US mint cannot conjure into existence a 1 Trillion dollar coin and put it into the pocket of the President to spend on whatever he pleases.

It is simply illegal!

Period!

No matter what "clever" lawyers think!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 07:52 AM (RrD4h)

92 A wabid wabbit?

Widiculous

Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 07:53 AM (v4HdX)

93 FORT JACKSON, S.C.(TheBlaze/AP) — South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and her family bid a tearful farewell to her husband Michael on Thursday as he departed with a National Guard unit for a month of training and then deployment to Afghanistan.

Capt. Michael Haley wrapped his arms around his wife and two children, ages 10 and 14, as his unit was given a send-off by several hundred family members, friends and Guard officials at a National Guard site outside Columbia.

The Republican governor issued a statement saying “we are a proud military family who understands the sacrifices any family goes through when a loved one is serving his or her country.”

Haley’s spokesman, Rob Godfrey, said the governor’s office is not aware of any other governor’s spouse who is deployed with the uniformed military. A Pentagon spokesman, Navy Lt. Cmdr. Nate Christensen, said he could not answer the question of whether any governor’s spouses were deployed military and instead referred calls to each of the separate military service branches.

After Gov. Haley hugged their 10-year-old son Nalin and 14-year-old daughter Rena, the governor wrapped her arms around her husband and buried her head in his shoulder. Family members crowded around the small group, many wiping away tears. The governor stepped away, dabbing her nose with a handkerchief as she appeared to be fighting back tears, after giving her husband multiple kisses.

The Blaze

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 07:53 AM (9Bj8R)

94 So vivisecting babies in the womb is a sacrament unless its done for sex selection. Nice selective outrage, lefties.

Posted by: zsasz at January 11, 2013 07:54 AM (erdCz)

95 81
Posted by: American Dawg at January 11, 2013 07:36 AM (trA4n)
I'm pretty skeptical that there wasn't an ultimately more productive way for the economy to grow.


Posted by: Captain Hate
===========================================
When Business wanted to locate in the area they always picked Omaha , they had the funds to offer lucrative tax deals to lure business...NOW we are able to compete with Omaha ...
We have managed to win several large businesses to this town...To name a Few are Tyson Foods, Google (server farm) Bass Pro Shops, Hobby Lobby , Walmart , Sams club....Retail and Food outlets are exploding in this town...
We are also located at the crossroads of two major interstates, I- 80 (east-west ) I-29 ( north - south )...

Posted by: American Dawg at January 11, 2013 07:55 AM (trA4n)

96 Those words have become a joke, with no meaning. We are a nation ruled by men, not by laws.

Actually, a nation ruled by men is easier. Changing laws are hard. Changing men?
4 to 7 lbs of trigger pull. Towards the end, Rome had 5 emperors in 5 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 07:56 AM (30cSW)

97 Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 07:52 AM (RrD4h)

Congrefs may have the "power of the purse", but right and proper power unexercised is not power at all, rather it is submission!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 11, 2013 07:56 AM (Cnqmv)

98 So vivisecting babies in the womb is a sacrament unless its done for sex selection. Nice selective outrage, lefties.



Posted by: zsasz

Maybe they'll figure out a way to do a sex change in the womb.

Then abort them.

Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 07:56 AM (v4HdX)

99 I worked for the motor Co for almost 20 years.

I knew there was a reason I liked you, OSP.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 07:56 AM (zF6Iw)

100 A little new from the OSP front. It looks like I will be departing the lovely Wilmington NC Area for Greenville SC.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:56 AM (l86i3)

101 CHUCK HAGEL SUPPORTS PARING DOWN PENTAGON, CUTTING NUCLEAR ARSENAL



Moreover, in addition to holding the opinion that the Department of Defense is "bloated," Hagel has endorsed calls for an 80 percent reduction in America's nuclear arsenal.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 07:57 AM (9Bj8R)

102 Dogs are mentioned 14 times in the bible...cats aren't mentioned once.

Posted by: Guy who tells people random shit at January 11, 2013 07:57 AM (9ScGj)

103 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:56 AM (l86i3)

Moving closer to Vic doesn't worry you?

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 11, 2013 07:58 AM (Cnqmv)

104 A little new from the OSP front. It looks like I will be departing the lovely Wilmington NC Area for Greenville SC.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:56 AM (l86i3)


I think BMW has a big something or other in Greenville SC. My daughter is sweet on a boy who works for them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 07:58 AM (9Bj8R)

105 Moreover, in addition to holding the opinion that the Department of Defense is "bloated," Hagel has endorsed calls for an 80 percent reduction in America's nuclear arsenal.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 07:57 AM (9Bj8R)

Oh hell why not, speed up the prcess, give them to Iran that way we can all enjoy the Muslim morning call to prayer, just like Obama.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:59 AM (l86i3)

106 @8 Vic- http://is.gd/7dLKJl
Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 06:55 AM (53z96)

**********

Hickenlooper evoked the 1999 Columbine High School shooting as evidence that lawmakers can act when a tragedy requires them to do so. After that shooting, Colorado closed the so-called “gun show loophole” which allowed purchases at gun shows without background checks.

Question for the governor. If more restrictive gun laws are so effective, why did the Aurora shooting happen after the post-Columbine legislation? So lawmakers can act, but can they accomplish anything?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 11, 2013 07:59 AM (1OZSU)

107 Moving closer to Vic doesn't worry you?
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 11, 2013 07:58 AM (Cnqmv)

It's a feature not a bug.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:59 AM (l86i3)

108 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 07:57 AM (9Bj8R)


Maybe Hagel supports that 2A militia thing where all the citizens are armed to the teeth and can repel invaders?



Nah--he is just another hack prog politician that supports anything that diminishes the US of A.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 11, 2013 08:00 AM (Cnqmv)

109 @97

Understood.

But the "clever" lawyer that posts here really believes the shit he's slinging.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 08:00 AM (RrD4h)

110 , give them to Iran that way we can all enjoy the Muslim morning call to prayer, just like Obama.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 07:59 AM (l86i3)

Sure with some of them self timers on them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:00 AM (9Bj8R)

111 Moving closer to Vic doesn't worry you?


Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 11, 2013 07:58 AM (Cnqmv)

Actually he is closer to me where he is at now than Greenville.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 08:01 AM (53z96)

112 1 If they ever do find a real genetic cause of homosexuality, we'll start seeing sex-preference selective abortions taking place.


After that happens, you can bet the Leftie obsession with abortion will start to die down.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 11, 2013 06:53 AM (U+vgB)


I've often thought that the inevitable splintering of the left's grievience coalition will be our salvation. I THOUGHT we might start to see some so called " feminists" breaking away as sex selective abortion became more common ( surprise, those bitches don't mean what they say ), but it hasn't happened. When people are told that their unborn has generic markers for homosexuality and use that as a reason to murder them though- with the " feminists" full throated approval, I'm sure - that is sure to occasion a full on civil war amongst the parasites.

I hope.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 11, 2013 08:01 AM (aH+zP)

113 Some lions mate over 50 times per day

Posted by: Guy who tells people random shit at January 11, 2013 08:02 AM (9ScGj)

114 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 11, 2013 07:59 AM (1OZSU)


Lawmakers and politicians are almost always acting, but very rarely accomplish anything productive.

The most productive and substantive thing ever done by American lawmakers was writing the Constitution, and almost all subsequent politicians/lawmakers have been acting so as to diminish that document and its principles ever since.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 11, 2013 08:03 AM (Cnqmv)

115 Some lions mate over 50 times per day
Posted by: Guy who tells people random shit at January 11, 2013 08:02 AM (9ScGj

So do some liars

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:04 AM (9Bj8R)

116 @112

Abortion kills 750,000 women in America every year.

Sex selective abortions almost universally mean that a female will get the scissors or the vaccumm.


Progressives are monsters, finding out they are full of shit is not surprising at all.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 08:05 AM (RrD4h)

117 Hickenlooper evoked the 1999 Columbine High School shooting as evidence
that lawmakers can act when a tragedy requires them to do so. After that
shooting, Colorado closed the so-called “gun show loophole” which
allowed purchases at gun shows without background checks.




One wonders if he would agree to a law that outlaws Democrats? After all, voters can act when politicians outlaw the Constitution.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 08:05 AM (53z96)

118 Bloomy now wants to restrict pain killers in hospitals..

"Under the new city policy, most public hospital patients will no longer be able to get more than three days' worth of narcotic painkillers like Vicodin and Percocet. Long-acting painkillers, including OxyContin, a familiar remedy for chronic backache and arthritis, as well as Fentanyl patches and methadone, will not be dispensed at all. And lost, stolen or destroyed prescriptions will not be refilled."

Posted by: Guy who tells people random shit at January 11, 2013 08:05 AM (9ScGj)

119
113Some lions mate over 50 times per day


Pfft.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 11, 2013 08:06 AM (Usuai)

120 115 Some lions mate over 50 times per day
Posted by: Guy who tells people random shit at January 11, 2013 08:02 AM (9ScGj

So do some liars
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:04 AM (9Bj8R)


That's an awful lot of dinner and boring conversation.

OR

Check... and mate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 08:06 AM (XkWWK)

121 Bloomy now wants to restrict pain killers in hospitals..

"Under the new city policy, most public hospital patients will no longer be able to get more than three days' worth of narcotic painkillers like Vicodin and Percocet. Long-acting painkillers, including OxyContin, a familiar remedy for chronic backache and arthritis, as well as Fentanyl patches and methadone, will not be dispensed at all. And lost, stolen or destroyed prescriptions will not be refilled."
Posted by: Guy who tells people random shit at January 11, 2013 08:05 AM (9ScGj)

Actually probably a very good idea.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:06 AM (9Bj8R)

122 so now I have to decide .45 or 9mm or .45lc or .357 mag?

I think a pair of Browning Hi-Powers would rock....


Old School


Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:07 AM (LRFds)

123 Hey, the government could get lucky with that coin trick.

If it's a mis-hit, or has the wrong mint mark or something, it would suddenly become a collectable coin, and maybe worth something.

Posted by: K-Bob at January 11, 2013 08:07 AM (crzhE)

124 Doug Ross has an article on real inflation vs. measured/reported inflation.

http://tinyurl.com/b6alv6u

Posted by: Nash Rambler at January 11, 2013 08:07 AM (yW4lI)

125 That douche, Geraldo, is on FandF talking about gun control. I hope Eric Boling bitch slaps him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 08:07 AM (piMMO)

126 And the gunshow thing is NOT a GD loophole. I am waiting for someone to tell the next reporter to shove that term up his ass.


The law NEVER intended for private party transactions to be required to to do back ground checks because they have no way of doing so.


A loophole is an unintended consequence, this is an intended function.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 08:07 AM (53z96)

127 121 NeverGiveUp,

that fucker is a big gulp drinking pill popping asshole I'd wager.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:07 AM (LRFds)

128 @118

The progressives wet dream is the Matrix, where everybody is reduced to a battery that energizes the superstate controlled by masterminds.



Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 08:08 AM (RrD4h)

129 116 GW,

they tell themselves it is a white male they are killing I'd bet.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:09 AM (LRFds)

130 Waaa! My paycheck dropped $32.00 a check. (like I knew it would) FUBO.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 08:11 AM (30cSW)

131 Doug Ross has an article on real inflation vs. measured/reported inflation.



I have been screaming about that for months. And this is not a recent phenomena either. Reported inflation has been much lower than actual for decades.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 08:11 AM (53z96)

132 I think that Constitution is going to cause a civil war again.

Posted by: Case at January 11, 2013 08:12 AM (gyQY/)

133 *holds envelope to forehead* It will be a big flop.

*opens envelope* A realistic Godzilla movie.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=95619

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:13 AM (KnIgz)

134 Where are all the fine bitches around here?

Posted by: Not Bill Clinton at January 11, 2013 08:13 AM (9ScGj)

135 "so now I have to decide .45 or 9mm or .45lc or .357 mag?"

I went with .40 SW. Sort of splits the diff. Availability has been good, so far.

Posted by: K-Bob at January 11, 2013 08:14 AM (crzhE)

136

The progressives wet dream is the Matrix, where everybody is reduced to a battery that energizes the superstate controlled by masterminds.
..................................


On that note my daughter's boss gave her the book Agenda 21 to read. Of course she hasn't so I picked it up last night and read it in one sitting. A bit far fetched and disturbing UNTIL you read the last few pages and find out Agenda 21 is actually a real thing. Not a huge Beck fan but he does uncover some interesting stuff.

Posted by: Molly k. at January 11, 2013 08:14 AM (n/mm9)

137 @133

Screw Godzilla, SMoD needs another movie. And this time, SMoD wins!

Posted by: JDTAY at January 11, 2013 08:15 AM (a0nis)

138 @131 I have been screaming about that for months.

I know. I thought you might appreciate the corroboration.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at January 11, 2013 08:15 AM (yW4lI)

139 And my understanding is that the Aurora theater shooter did not obtain his weapons from a private seller, so once again, how is the CO proposed legislation actually addressing the presumed "problem"? (rhetorical question, I know)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 11, 2013 08:17 AM (1OZSU)

140 Morning Horde. Was gone from the site most of yesterday. Miss anything interesting?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:17 AM (da5Wo)

141 Okay I saw a TV commercial peddling commemorative Obama dollar coins. Got at the bottom this URL - myobamacoins.com.

So I look up the domain name. It was registered last October for just one year. Registrant is an Inc in Norwalk, CT.

I think I will pass.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:18 AM (KnIgz)

142 Posted by: American Dawg at January 11, 2013 07:55 AM (trA4n)



Well congratulations; it's obviously worked out well for Council Bluffs. Here in northeast Ohio I don't think it's done a damn thing for the local economy except stopping the outflow of people going elsewhere to gamble. So in essence it's slicing a stagnant pie thinner. Making Ohio a right to work state would go a lot further toward growing the state economy.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 11, 2013 08:18 AM (7wVg1)

143 http://agenda21pdf.com/

Posted by: Icedog at January 11, 2013 08:18 AM (9ScGj)

144 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 08:18 AM (5DR1j)

145 Morning Horde. Was gone from the site most of yesterday. Miss anything interesting?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:17 AM (da5Wo)

Nah, not really. Nothing out of the ordinary. No ron on ron violence or anything.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 08:18 AM (l86i3)

146 The law NEVER intended for private party transactions to be required to to do back ground checks because they have no way of doing so.

How can they enforce this. They would half to know who owns what. Ain't no way.

Posted by: Farmer at January 11, 2013 08:19 AM (Pngxg)

147 Gabe might have a point here.

"To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof,"

vs.

"A well regulated Militia, "

Clearly the Founders didn't explicitly state the Money needed "well" regulation.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2013 08:19 AM (I3vTd)

148 The trilion dollar coin trick is not illegal for the same reason that painting the White House neon green and declaring it a nudist only zone isn't illegal: it's never occurred to Congress that any admin would actually do anything that absurd.

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 08:19 AM (S8IQW)

149 Morning BCochran, did you see this video yesterday?
http://youtu.be/wTAIv3cBwlQ

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:19 AM (KnIgz)

150 The Pentagon could sell those extra nukes to the States. I'd feel better with Texas, Indiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, and Virginia being nuclear armed in case that secsession thing rolled around again. Georgia, Florida, Arkansas n Tennessee as well. Kentucky but only after college basketball season.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 11, 2013 08:20 AM (VrVBw)

151 139 And my understanding is that the Aurora theater shooter did not obtain his weapons from a private seller, so once again, how is the CO proposed legislation actually addressing the presumed "problem"? (rhetorical question, I know)


......

Ina semi-related note...

I don't buy insanity from that fucker for one split second. His behavior is too contrived: Like how one would behave if they wanted to appear to be crazy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 08:20 AM (piMMO)

152 from breitbart http://tinyurl.com/ao8r7of


Morgan: Which tyranny are you fearing, yourself?
Shapiro: I fear the possibility of a tyranny rising in the country in the next fifty to a hundred years. Let me tell you something, Piers. The fact that my grandparents and great grandparents in Europe didn't fear that is why they're now ashes in Europe. So this kind of leftist revisionist history where there's never any fear of democracy going usurpatious or tyrannical, is just that. It’s fictitious.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 08:20 AM (GVxQo)

153 And his apartment was a booby-trap nightmare that included napalm.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:21 AM (KnIgz)

154 Morning Horde. Was gone from the site most of yesterday. Miss anything interesting?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:17 AM (da5Wo)



Well, I got the webcam working.


Oh and I think you got down to three! *confettis*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 08:21 AM (VtjlW)

155
149
Morning BCochran, did you see this video yesterday?
http://youtu.be/wTAIv3cBwlQ


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:19 AM (KnIgz)


Oh yes Miss Anna, I did indeed.

Hmmmm....I think my wife would look good in gold....
*taps chin a la AtC*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:21 AM (da5Wo)

156 Good Morning all,

Sven,

If you go with some form of .45acp like an XD or a 1911, you can get a M1917 SW and share ammo with your wheel gun.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at January 11, 2013 08:21 AM (KAWvv)

157 damn ampersand

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at January 11, 2013 08:22 AM (KAWvv)

158 Darn it, lets try another video then.
http://youtu.be/fT8ElbZTGdg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:22 AM (KnIgz)

159 The commie-coddled President threatens to engage in actions clearly hostile to the American economy, and the most you can conjure up is that it's "silly"?

Right. Germany annexes Poland. Oh, so silly! Silly, silly Germans.

Posted by: I Thimk, therefore I om at January 11, 2013 08:23 AM (vzUSW)

160 Well, I got the webcam working.





Oh and I think you got down to three! *confettis*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 08:21 AM (VtjlW)


"And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of
the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but
beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and
the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the
Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me
and despair!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:23 AM (da5Wo)

161 135 Kbob,

yeah and it is a logical round to have given what a potential opfor ould be using....

I dunno maybe a beretta 96 pair in .40 smith....

decisions decisions...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:23 AM (LRFds)

162 "Well, I got the webcam working."

The entire horde on webcams....I think the negatives would far outweigh the positives.

Posted by: Icedog at January 11, 2013 08:24 AM (9ScGj)

163
From recent experience, in NC, to privately sell a handgun the seller needs to make sure the buyer has either a concealed carry permit, and keep a copy of it FOREVER, or the buyer must give the seller a valid pistol permit from the sheriff's department and the seller must keep that FOREVER. Failure to do so is a Class 1 misdemeanor - $2,500 fine and/or 6 months guest of state.

Posted by: jj at January 11, 2013 08:25 AM (gWO5X)

164 156 guy that move pianos,

you know I had that very conversation with my gunsmith...

heh

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:25 AM (LRFds)

165 134 Where are all the fine bitches around here?
Posted by: Not Bill Clinton at January 11, 2013 08:13 AM (9ScGj)

Well hello there!

Posted by: Helen Thomas on a hot and humid day at January 11, 2013 08:26 AM (fWAjv)

166 Some lions mate over 50 times per day
Posted by: Guy who tells people random shit at January 11, 2013 08:02 AM (9ScGj)


A Calvin Coolidge story:

Cal and Mrs. Cal are visiting a chicken farm. While the Prez is wandering off somewhere else, the farmer points outa rooster to Mrs. Cal and notes that he's enthusiasticenough tomate all day long. "Tell that to Mr. Coolidge," she chuckles.

Silent Cal walks by, and the farmer repeats his story and Mrs. Cal's comment. "Does he mate with the same hen each time?" Cal asks.

"No, sir."

"Tell that to Mrs. Cooldige."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 08:26 AM (zF6Iw)

167 also the Chiappa Rhino can shoot 9mm, or .40smith if inclined.

Maybe I need the Rhino inasmuch as one "needs" any pistol.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:27 AM (LRFds)

168 Mornin' 'rons and 'ettes.


Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 08:28 AM (fWAjv)

169 MPPP I'll go in the box for you....


Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:28 AM (LRFds)

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:28 AM (LRFds)

171 better?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:28 AM (LRFds)

172 Nah, not really. Nothing out of the ordinary. No ron on ron violence or anything.

We're slipping.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2013 08:29 AM (GFM2b)

173 Indeed and with that I need to pull a merge patch for the boy's Fallout new vegas install....

he's been well behaved of late and asked.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:29 AM (LRFds)

174
Good morning, morons:
Updated:
Jan 08, 2012 5:21 PM EST





(CNN) -

In Henderson, North Carolina, a 14-year-old boy defended his home with a shotgun.

The boy's sister, who was hiding in a closet, called 911 first. Then, the boy also called 911, after he fired two shots.

Deputies found 19-year old Michael Henderson dead on the front lawn.

The 14-year-old isn't expected to be charged, due to North Carolina law regarding intruders.

Another man is facing multiple charges in the case, including breaking and entering.

Posted by: Jay at January 11, 2013 08:29 AM (3LaGb)

175

Barrel. I know.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 08:30 AM (zF6Iw)

176 Once again for the slow and "clever" lawyers

Congress has the power of the purse and can raise or lower the debt ceiling and fund things generally or explicitly.

The President does not have the authority to circumvent this ability.

The
US mint cannot conjure into existence a 1 Trillion dollar coin and put
it into the pocket of the President to spend on whatever he pleases.

THE EXECUTIVE SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE THAT POWER IN THE CONSTITUTION! OR IN LAW! OR STATUTE!

It is simply illegal!

Period!

No matter what "clever" lawyers think!

Now whether congress asserts it's authority is another matter.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 08:32 AM (RrD4h)

177 All shall love me and despair!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:23 AM (da5Wo)


Exactly! Have a cookie.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 08:32 AM (VtjlW)

178 Posted by: Jay at January 11, 2013 08:29 AM (3LaGb)


.....


Two young people alive today because of superior firepower. Some good news this fine Friday morning.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 08:33 AM (piMMO)

179 The Aurora, CO Newton, CT nuts did not obtain guns by private sales. The gun control measures Biden is talking about are sheer zealotry

Posted by: Jay at January 11, 2013 08:34 AM (3LaGb)

180 The Pentagon will begin taking steps to freeze civilian hiring, delay some contract awards and curtail some maintenance to prepare for drastic budget cuts if Congress can't reach an agreement on a final spending plan, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Thursday.
Speaking to reporters, Panetta said that department officials must also develop detailed plans to implement unpaid furloughs for civilian personnel. The furloughs would kick in if the automatic cuts are triggered.
But Panetta said he has asked defense leaders to ensure that any initial moves they make now should be reversible if at all possible, and they must minimize harmful effects on military readiness.
"The simple fact is that this fiscal uncertainty has become a serious threat to our national security," Panetta said during a Pentagon press conference. "We really have no choice but to prepare for the worst."
The Pentagon is facing a spending reduction of nearly $500 billion over a decade. An additional $110 billion in automatic spending cuts to military and domestic programs will take effect in early March if no agreement is reached.

obama: National Security is no concern of mine?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:34 AM (9Bj8R)

181
Two young people alive today because of superior firepower. Some good news this fine Friday morning.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 08:33 AM (piMMO)

And a Ma or Pa that taught them the how when and where to use it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 08:34 AM (l86i3)

182 BCochran's fit of romantic lyricism has prompted me to once again read Spenser and his homage to Gloriana whilst telling of the adventure of Redcrosse.

Silly BCochran.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:35 AM (KnIgz)

183 You would think cigarettes would be our next currency.

Posted by: Case at January 11, 2013 08:35 AM (gyQY/)

184 And lost, stolen or destroyed prescriptions will not be refilled."

...
Actually probably a very good idea.


Because people in actual extreme pain should suffer to drive junkies back to the heroin market where they'll die?

Oh, wait it's NY suffering, never mind.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2013 08:35 AM (I3vTd)

185 MPPP, I work at an indie bookstore and special ordered your book. I hope to get it shortly, read it, and get a recommend tag on it next week! Thanks for your morning stories, they make an otherwise depressing news thread fun!

Posted by: MrsMittens at January 11, 2013 08:36 AM (a8VoG)

186 Morgan: Which tyranny are you fearing, yourself?
Shapiro: I fear the possibility of a tyranny rising in the country in the next fifty to a hundred years. Let me tell you something, Piers. The fact that my grandparents and great grandparents in Europe didn't fear that is why they're now ashes in Europe. So this kind of leftist revisionist history where there's never any fear of democracy going usurpatious or tyrannical, is just that. It’s fictitious.
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 08:20 AM (GVxQo)

Did Piers have to go to the hospital after that answer? Ouch.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 11, 2013 08:36 AM (FsUAO)

187 All shall love me and despair!" Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:23 AM (da5Wo)

Exactly! Have a cookie.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 08:32 AM (VtjlW)


As I always say - AtC: demurely coy, divinely cold.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 08:36 AM (zF6Iw)

188 From the abortion article:

Lord Howe ... rejected Lord Alton’s request for data to be collected on the sex of unborn babies at the time of abortion. The minister said recording the gender of foetuses “raises ethical and clinical issues”.

Posted by: USA at January 11, 2013 08:37 AM (RIg+t)

189 Nevergiveup, as I mentioned yesterday. DoD is trying to shutdown the Lima plant that rebuilds Abram tanks. So yes national security is no concern of TFG's administration, be it Panetta or Hagel. They are drones who know their little domains of power only exist while they pleasure TFG.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:37 AM (KnIgz)

190
More:

After a mom shoots an intruder in Georgia, police have found that the man likely had more crimes in mind.


Paul Ali Slater tried to break into a home on Friday afternoon but
ran into an angry mom, who shot him five times, police in Walton County
say. But now police have found that before the mom shoots the intruder,
he was looking into other homes in the neighborhood to break into.
....
But instead of hiding, the mom pulls out a .38 and shoots the intruder.

“The guy’s face down, crying,” the sheriff said. The woman told him to stay down or she’d shoot again.

Posted by: Jay at January 11, 2013 08:38 AM (3LaGb)

191 And a Ma or Pa that taught them the how when and where to use it.

....

Due respect to ma and pa.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 08:38 AM (piMMO)

192 You would think cigarettes would be our next currency.


Posted by: Case

And anal lube

Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 08:38 AM (v4HdX)

193 Thanks, Mrs. Mittens! A nice review at Amazon or BandN won't hurt, either.

Seriously, to all you 'rons and 'ronettes: I'm glad you enjoy my stories. If you do buy the book, I hope you like it as well. If you don't like it, be honest and let me know, too. It all helps with the next one.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 08:38 AM (zF6Iw)

194 Because people in actual extreme pain should suffer to drive junkies back to the heroin market where they'll die?

Oh, wait it's NY suffering, never mind.
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2013 08:35 AM (I3vTd)

Not sure I understand your point. But from working in the ER of an inner city Hospital, let me tell ya, a good majority of the " emergencies" are bullshit and many are just there for drugs. Anyone in real pain or distress will probably be admitted

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:38 AM (9Bj8R)

195
182
BCochran's fit of romantic lyricism has prompted me to once again read
Spenser and his homage to Gloriana whilst telling of the adventure of
Redcrosse.

Silly BCochran.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:35 AM (KnIgz)


Oh, I don't have that kinda skill. That was a word for word ripoff of Galadriel.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:39 AM (da5Wo)

196 Sven - .357 and a matching lever gun. I believe ammo is going to expensive.

"How can they enforce this. They would half to know who owns what. Ain't no way".... Well, about that

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 08:39 AM (pmDdf)

197 I think I can get a 9 mil barrel for my Glock 23 (.40 SW)

So if I get that, I can practice with cheaper stuff, and of course have an alternative if the 40 becomes scarce.

Posted by: K-Bob at January 11, 2013 08:39 AM (crzhE)

198 Because people in actual extreme pain should suffer to drive junkies back to the heroin market where they'll die?


That was my first thought too. If someone wants to poison themselves with that shit, let em do it. To withhold drugs from someone with chronic pain is cruel.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 08:39 AM (l86i3)

199 An IOU is just another form of debt, something Treasury is not allowed to take on beyond the debt limit.

A coin is also simply a debt instrument. At least that's what they've been since copper pennies stopped being copper; silver dollars stopped being silver, etc., etc.

Posted by: Shakin' Like a Man on a Fuzzy Tree at January 11, 2013 08:39 AM (eMtQ2)

200 How many cans of Vienna sausage will one pack of cigarettes go for?

Meanwhile new FDA regulations give them far more sweeping power over the tobacco industry.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:40 AM (KnIgz)

201
Another:

The teenage son of a Harris County Precinct 1 deputy shot a home intruder Tuesday afternoon in the 2600 block of Royal Place in northwest Harris County, deputies said.
The 15-year-old boy and his 12-year-old sister had been home alone in the Mount Royal Village subdivision when around 2:30 p.m. a pair of burglars tried the front and back doors, then broke a back window.
The teenager grabbed his father’s assault rifle and knew what to do with it.
“We don’t try to hide things from our children in law enforcement,” Lt. Jeffrey Stauber said. “That young boy was protecting his sister. He was in fear for his life and her life.”
The home invaders fled, leaving a trail of blood.

Posted by: Jay at January 11, 2013 08:40 AM (3LaGb)

202 To withhold drugs from someone with chronic pain is cruel.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 08:39 AM (l86i3)

Someone with "chronic" pain should not be in the emergency room anyway.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:40 AM (9Bj8R)

203 OSP, will get your book ordered next, doing my little bit for the Horde in my corner of the world! OK, back to lurking-

Posted by: MrsMittens at January 11, 2013 08:40 AM (a8VoG)

204 The President does not have the authority to circumvent this ability.

No, you are wrong. A trillion-dollar coin is simply a silly sitcom plot device. Silly, silly comedy writers. Silly, silly coins.

Americans only need to scrunch their cute widdle faces up and utter "Whachoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?!" Then the audience will laugh, and it will all turn out o.k.

It's not like Obama is also planning to subvert the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution or anything, or sold weapons to hostile foreign mercenaries.

Posted by: I Thimk, therefore I om at January 11, 2013 08:41 AM (vzUSW)

205
IF the govt just wanted a quick infusion of "revenue" ( I hate this euphemism), they could offer forward year tax credits.
I think most people would consider them a better investment than bonds.
BUT, demise is desired.

Posted by: Justamom at January 11, 2013 08:41 AM (Sptt8)

206 As I always say - AtC: demurely coy, divinely cold.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 08:36 AM (zF6Iw)



*blushes and whatnot*


Also, sheesh, I did not actually click buy to buy your book. clickyclickyclicky

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 08:41 AM (VtjlW)

207 204 I think,

yeah but that skipper needs nailed he ran into something on a ship.

SMOD come cleanse us

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:42 AM (LRFds)

208 OSP, will get your book ordered next, doing my little bit for the Horde in my corner of the world! OK, back to lurking-
Posted by: MrsMittens at January 11, 2013 08:40 AM (a8VoG)

Thank you so much. If you would, when you finish, please leave a review on Amazon. It's kind of important. But thank you, I hope you enjoy it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 08:43 AM (l86i3)

209 ::::Congress has the power of the purse and can raise or lower the debt ceiling and fund things generally or explicitly:::

While you hyperventilate into a paper bag, consider this:

"The Secretary may mint and issue bullion and proof platinum coins in accordance with such specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time."

Know who wrote that? CONGRESS.

Know who passed that into law? CONGRESS.

Now, if you want to argue the constitutionality of it, the US Supreme Court is the only venue that can rule it illegal. There will be 4 votes guaranteed to rule it legal. Any bets on whether there will be a fifth?

I suppose "clever lawyer" is an insult where you come from. Not once did he say he agrees with or approves of or thinks it's a good idea to mint and deposit a trillion dollar coin.

What he said was, "The law allows the Secretary to do so."

That's a simple, dry recitation of fact. Jumping up and down like a fucking organ grinder's monkey screeching your outrage at reality is not burnishing your Internet Expert credentials.

You know, just FYI.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 08:43 AM (JDIKC)

210 So, a story meaning nothing: I've a client that died last year. Collected guns. A lot of guns.
The lot of them, 230 or so, were sold to Cabela's recently for near a quarter million.


Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2013 08:44 AM (imtbm)

211 Must. ask. IT. to. block. GunBroker.


Does Morgan ever get tired of having his ass handed to him. Ben Shapiro treated him like his bitch.

http://tinyurl.com/ao8r7of


"Standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook."

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 08:44 AM (fWAjv)

212 Spenser's dedication to Elizabeth I. The man really knows how to polish a crown.

TO
THE MOST HIGH, MIGHTIE, AND MAGNIFICENT
EMPERESSE
RENOWNED FOR PIETIE, VERTVE, AND ALL GRATIOVS GOVERNMENT
ELIZABETH
BY THE GRACE OF GOD
Queen of England, Fraunce and Ireland, and of Virginia,
Defender of the Faith etc.
HER MOST HUMBLE SERVAUNT
EDMVND SPENSER
DOTH IN ALL HUMILITIE
DEDICATE, PRESENT, AND CONSECRATE THESE HIS LABOVRS
TO LIVE WITH THE ETERNITIE OF HER FAME.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:45 AM (KnIgz)

213 Well, isn't buying our own bonds actually the same
thing as an IOU? I know the bank certainly won't let me write checks to
me and then give me credit for the deposit without also making the
withdrawal.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at January 11, 2013 07:35 AM (Gk3SS)

That's the old game of check kiting in a nutshell. For you young whippersnappers, back in the olden days, it took a week or so for a check to clear the bank. A quick way to prevent a check from bouncing was to have a second account which also had little money in it. Kiters would write a check against the second account and deposit is in the first account. When the check to the first account reached the bank, the deposited funds from the second account would be there to cover it. The race was then on to get funds into the second account to cover the bogus check making it's way back through the system to that account. The game amounted to shuffling funds between the two accounts to cover whatever paper was moving between the two. The hope was that there would eventually be enough real money in the accounts to cover all outstanding checks and stop the cycle. It rarely worked out that way.
The platinum coin trick is just that. At some point, there has to be enough money available to return the coin to the mint without taking that much money out of circulation.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at January 11, 2013 08:46 AM (Gkhxf)

214 royaloil

that's impossible...jordan has ALL THE GUNS...(just joking)

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 08:46 AM (GVxQo)

215 Nevergiveup, I don't know. I was kept waiting for over three hours to get admitted with a kidney stone. Lots of detox, jail, and hobos got in, while I writhed in silence.

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 08:46 AM (ytax8)

216 Polliwogette (if you're around)- sent you an email.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 08:46 AM (5DR1j)

217
Raising taxes on the "rich", minting a $1,000,000,000 coin, stuffing the lock boxes with IOUs...

...we've tapped into "magic money" in order to deny reality, people! Get with the program!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 11, 2013 08:46 AM (Jcd0S)

218 Huh, 230 is a lot?

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 08:47 AM (ytax8)

219 217 Krebs v Carnot,

Nah we'll just hire a lawyer to undo reality....

it works I saw a movie.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 08:48 AM (LRFds)

220 Nevergiveup, I don't know. I was kept waiting for over three hours to get admitted with a kidney stone. Lots of detox, jail, and hobos got in, while I writhed in silence.
Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 08:46 AM (ytax

Yes that's my point. Most of the people there were not real emergencies. They use the ER as of it were a General Practice Dr's Office and they are there for free stuff. And real emergencies like you had get shunted aside or have to wait. The system is broken and obamacare does NOTHING to address that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:48 AM (9Bj8R)

221 What matters is not the number, but what weapons were in that collection.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:49 AM (KnIgz)

222 Nevergiveup, under the AHCA guess what will happen. It will be Canada, as the doctors just quit it will be the Emergency Rooms that will be flooded.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:50 AM (KnIgz)

223 A coin is also simply a debt instrument. At least
that's what they've been since copper pennies stopped being copper;
silver dollars stopped being silver, etc., etc.


Posted by: Shakin' Like a Man on a Fuzzy Tree at January 11, 2013 08:39 AM (eMtQ2)


No I don't think this is correct. Money is a medium of exchange. When you get paid for doing work, you aren't accumulating more debt; you're accumulating value in the form of what money represents, not its intrinsic value.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 11, 2013 08:51 AM (7wVg1)

224 Yes that's my point. Most of the people there were
not real emergencies. They use the ER as of it were a General Practice
Dr's Office and they are there for free stuff. And real emergencies like
you had get shunted aside or have to wait. The system is broken and
obamacare does NOTHING to address that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup


SIL works at the local hospital. When the weather gets cold, the drunks and the druggies first OD and then show up to "detox" thanks to the good people at EMTALA. Beds are hard to get and the hospital can be overcrowded for days, or until it warms up again.

Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 08:51 AM (v4HdX)

225 And that 230 doesn't count who knows how many he liquidated at guns shows the last few years as he knew he was dying.

And I can almost guarantee, from knowing the guy, that the federal government had no idea he had so many guns.

That's one guy in a very small town in West Texas.

There are thousands more like him . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2013 08:52 AM (imtbm)

226 Ordering a .45acp 1911 slide... for a paperweight.

Posted by: Bigby's Racking Hand at January 11, 2013 08:52 AM (3ZtZW)

227 Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 11, 2013 08:51 AM (7wVg1)


Yep, money is a representation of a product or a service.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 08:52 AM (l86i3)

228 I think BCochran lifted that from "The Fellowship of the Ring" . Kate Blanchette' lines.

Posted by: Al at January 11, 2013 08:52 AM (V70Uh)

229 Nevergiveup, I actually left and went to a clinic. Was CAT scanned in less the fifteen minutes.

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 08:53 AM (ytax8)

230 My point is that it won't work and will hurt people in pain.

Vicodin ain't strong enough for severe pain.
3 days is too short of a supply and will increase the severe pain - relief cycling that leads to addiction and requires more medication.
Junkies will just go back to the street and spread disease.

Won't work, hurts people, arbitrary application of Govt. power - sounds like a Democrat plan to me. Oh wait, Bloomberg.

Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2013 08:54 AM (I3vTd)

231 As others have said, if the coin trick is pulled what will our creditors think? All those container ships bringing goods to the US shores just might turn around to sell to buyers who have real money.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:54 AM (KnIgz)

232 From YaHOOOO news headlines.

Biden seeks video game industry input on guns
Now were getting down to the REAL cause of the problem.



Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 08:55 AM (v4HdX)

233 Another video. This one has a SMOD smiting the whole planet.
http://youtu.be/4KXMvs-dm_U

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:55 AM (KnIgz)

234 Stable Hand over at Jawa Report has a clip of Ted Nugent talking with Peter Schiff.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/214784.php

Posted by: K-Bob at January 11, 2013 08:55 AM (crzhE)

235 Anybody know what 1 trillion represents as a percentage of the monetary supply?

Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 08:55 AM (O7Q1u)

236 Yes that's my point. Most of the people there were not real emergencies.
They use the ER as of it were a General Practice Dr's Office and they
are there for free stuff. And real emergencies like you had get shunted
aside or have to wait. The system is broken and obamacare does NOTHING
to address that.


Thank you Congress.

See, once upon a time, ERs were free to triage you, say, "This isn't an emergency. Go to your doctor or come back during clinic hours." But then congress got involved. You see, it wasn't "fair" that people were being "turned away" from receiving "emergency care" for their bunions. So a law was passed that said, in essence, "If the patient thinks its an emergency, then it is."

Now, obviously none of them have ever worked help-desk support with a ticketing system, or they would know this obvious truth- when everything is rated as an "emergency," nothing is treated that way.

Money is a medium of exchange.

Sorry, pedantic and all that- Money is no such thing. Money is an abstract concept meant to convey the combination of work and time. Currency is a medium of exchange.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 08:57 AM (5DR1j)

237 Anybody know what 1 trillion represents as a percentage of the monetary supply?


Posted by: Vizzini

Quite a bit, but not enough.

According the JEF

Posted by: Bruce at January 11, 2013 08:57 AM (v4HdX)

238 Vicodin ain't strong enough for severe pain.
3 days is too short of a supply and will increase the severe pain - relief cycling that leads to addiction and requires more medication.
Junkies will just go back to the street and spread disease.

Won't work, hurts people, arbitrary application of Govt. power - sounds like a Democrat plan to me. Oh wait, Bloomberg.
Posted by: DaveA at January 11, 2013 08:54 AM (I3vTd)

The purpose of an ER is not to provide continuing care to anyone. It is a temporary way station either to the admission of that patient to the Hospital or short term treatment until the patient can get to a Doctor's Office. It is tremendously expensive and inefficient to have ER's function as General care clinics. And dispensing narcotics like candy only encourages that type of behavior

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 08:57 AM (9Bj8R)

239 Part of the problem is Choom Boy doesn't understand anything about money or anything related to the economy, particularly jobs since the lazy cocksucker's never had one.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 11, 2013 08:57 AM (7wVg1)

240 @229
I'm so glad we have one of those urgent care clinics nearby now. Sure beats the ER when someone gets really sick on a weekend. We had to go last weekend bec of the flu - waiting room was packed but it still took less than an hour.
If we'd gone to the ER we'd have been there all day.

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 08:57 AM (S8IQW)

241 Now, obviously none of them have ever worked help-desk support with a
ticketing system, or they would know this obvious truth- when everything
is rated as an "emergency," nothing is treated that way.


I see this every day. People can't seem to understand that getting a server back up is a little more important than fixing their e-mail.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at January 11, 2013 08:59 AM (Gkhxf)

242 Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 08:57 AM (S8IQW)

Yep, they know my kids, Crash and Dr. Destructo, on a first name basis.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 08:59 AM (l86i3)

243 Jumping up and down like a fucking organ grinder's monkey screeching
your outrage at reality is not burnishing your Internet Expert
credentials.




That man has such a way with words.







228
I think BCochran lifted that from "The Fellowship of the Ring" . Kate Blanchette' lines.


Posted by: Al at January 11, 2013 08:52 AM (V70Uh)


I don't know who this Kate Blanchette person is, but those were the words of Galadriel, the Lady of Lórien.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 08:59 AM (da5Wo)

244 >>Miss anything interesting?

BC, the comments on the words not in English thread were even funnier than average.

>>>No ron on ron violence or anything. >>>>>We're slipping.

Only you RINOs are slipping!!!1!

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 08:59 AM (SUKHu)

245 Here's another story that means nothing: Texas Tech is down over 7,000 graduate students.
The unemployment rate in Lubbock is 4.9.
Texas is 6.8.

You know, Insty keeps talking about some "higher education bubble?"

Hmm.

Might be the heads full of mush are realizing that a job--any job--in the Obama Economy is better than another piece of paper?

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2013 09:00 AM (imtbm)

246 I'm so glad we have one of those urgent care clinics nearby now. Sure beats the ER when someone gets really sick on a weekend.

Yeah. As long as you're not a specialty case (they wouldn't see my wife at all when she was pregnant, because she was a high-risk pregnancy), or have trauma (open wounds or whatever), those urgent care clinics are awesome.

It would be nice if more people would use them, instead of the ER, so that when someone has a real emergency, they could go to the hospital and get timely care.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:00 AM (5DR1j)

247
After that happens, you can bet the Leftie obsession with abortion will start to die down.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 11, 2013 06:53 AM (U+vgB)


Lefties are already Darwin selecting themselves for extinction. Women with a normal maternal instinct won't get an abortion.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:01 AM (bb5+k)

248 232 From YaHOOOO news headlines.

Biden seeks video game industry input on guns
Now were getting down to the REAL cause of the problem.


.....

Because when we need real solutions to a Constitutional crisis, it's gamers who will lead the way.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 09:01 AM (piMMO)

249 Well, Horde, I give up on this week. Let's put it this way, this week has not been the most efficient work week I've ever had. I swear, I'm getting stupider by the minute.


Today, I decided that's it, I'm going to end the week actually succeeding at something. We have three large files for matters that are complete. All that needs to be done is for each file to be scanned and then put into a box and then taken up to the attic for storage. I can do that!

So. Pick up the first file. Drop it. Papers everywhere. Gather papers and reorganize them. Start to scan. Oh. Hey. Maybe I should take out the staples. Take out staples. Put staple through palm. Attempt not to swear out loud because very nice coworker doesn't like the swears. Bandage up palm. Clean blood off copier machine. Resume scanning. Copier decides it doesn't want to communicate with network. Kick copier.

Go to back room. Pick up empty box to put file in. Begin carrying empty box. Box? Begins moving.

I did manage not to fall down the back stairs when I flung open the door and threw the box out back so there's that.


I give the fuck up.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 09:02 AM (VtjlW)

250
Yeah. As long as you're not a specialty case (they wouldn't see my wife at all when she was pregnant, because she was a high-risk pregnancy), or have trauma (open wounds or whatever), those urgent care clinics are awesome.

Yep, I walked into one and told them I had chest pains, The lady said, OUT, OUT, go to the hospital. It was just torn cartiidge from lifting weights.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:02 AM (l86i3)

251 Strictly speaking, an additional tax DOESN'T cost the company (or any company for that matter) more money.

They do as ALL COMPANIES DO they account for it as a cost of doing business or debit on their books and raise their prices for whatever they sell to the CUSTOMER. Which is the consumer otherwise known as US.

That liberals/progressives (and many Unionists) never seem to get this fact of basic economics never ceases to amaze me.

It's like companies are magic boxes where greedy owners rape the earth and exploit their workers and skim the wealth off the top.

It's because the majority of those who preach socialism, have never had to produce or been an employer they've either been subsidized by someone all their life or been a government worker.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka 3 tooth) at January 11, 2013 09:02 AM (3E2th)

252 249 Well, Horde, I give up on this week. Let's put it this way, this week has not been the most efficient work week I've ever had.

I swear I remeber this same post from last friday.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:03 AM (l86i3)

253 @209

The secretary mints this coin emblazoned with 1 trillion on it and does what with it?

Hands it to the President and says spend it well my friend?

There is absolutely no authority for this anywhere dick face!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 09:03 AM (RrD4h)

254 "Almost safe beneath her armored desk, Tira was aghast at all the blood, steam rising from it as it welled and gouted like lava out of fallen men. Where it fell, bits of glass mixed with it, like a monstrous sparkling wine. She lay with debris pressing against her cheek, and her hands were starting to feel crusty where the blood was clotting around her fingers. She didn't think any of it was her own."

- Crown of Empire by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro. Baen Books.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:03 AM (KnIgz)

255 233 Another video. This one has a SMOD smiting the whole planet.
http://youtu.be/4KXMvs-dm_U
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 08:55 AM (KnIgz)

Dayum. What a way to go though.

Posted by: RWC at January 11, 2013 09:04 AM (fWAjv)

256 Yeah. As long as you're not a specialty case (they wouldn't see my wife at all when she was pregnant, because she was a high-risk pregnancy), or have trauma (open wounds or whatever), those urgent care clinics are awesome.

It would be nice if more people would use them, instead of the ER, so that when someone has a real emergency, they could go to the hospital and get timely care.

....
The hospital I use has both an ER and an urgent care clinic. The clinic is located in a separate building just outside the ER and handles broken bones, migraines, back pain, etc....

It really cuts down on ER traffic.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 11, 2013 09:05 AM (piMMO)

257 I see this every day. People can't seem to understand that getting a
server back up is a little more important than fixing their e-mail.


I worked at a Health Care claims clearinghouse as a customer support type. They way our support worked, though, was that clients would log tickets online, and rate their urgency from 1 ("Wishlist") to 5 ("Emergency").

Every day, it seemed, I had to explain to the same clients that if they listed every problem as an emergency, then the only way I could work them was chronologically. If they wanted their support triaged, they'd have to rank them more reasonably, so I could really get to the most important things first.

That claim that didn't go through today, unless it was some 5 figure claim amount, is probably less important than that whole set of claims that didn't go to a payer yesterday, for instance.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:05 AM (5DR1j)

258 People are going to be fined $700 for not having health insurance, which will not control health care costs. Something that would control health care costs, like a $20 fine for not having a primary care doctor, crickets

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 09:05 AM (u5ozF)

259 I don't think you'll hear much outrage from feminists over sex selective abortions, because I think that unlike the rest of the world, you'll see them used in the US mostly against male children.

As for homosexuality, I don't think there will/or can be a definitive genetic marker, since many homosexuals are such by environment. Not all, mind you, but at least a quarter to a third if not more are not born that way but instead are the product of various factors after birth.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:05 AM (o1kXv)

260 after eating a dinner prepared by his wife.http://tinyurl.com/aejzajp
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 07:33 AM (KnIgz)

It's like I always say, women kill as much as men. They just use poison and tend to get away with it. The first ME report was he died of natural causes. It was the lottery thing that made them look closer and discover the cyanide.

Posted by: Invictus at January 11, 2013 09:05 AM (OQpzc)

261 >>I swear I remeber this same post from last friday.

Snort.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 11, 2013 09:05 AM (SUKHu)

262 gen woundwort

don't make me cut you.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 09:06 AM (GVxQo)

263 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 09:02 AM (VtjlW)



Dear Leader, it's been a long time. Here, you deserve it....



*hands over bottle of tequila*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:06 AM (da5Wo)

264 236) yes that was the Emtala bill, passed in 1986, which led to MassCare in Massachussetts as a solution, unexpectedly, it didn't work, as advertised, and Kennedy/Kassebaum.

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 11, 2013 09:06 AM (Jsiw/)

265 Yes that's my point. Most of the people there were not real emergencies. They use the ER as of it were a General Practice Dr's Office and they are there for free stuff. And real emergencies like you had get shunted aside or have to wait. The system is broken and obamacare does NOTHING to address that.

The two biggest reforms that would fix the medical system are to reform the emergency room debacle and to end the deliberate shortage of medical schools imposed by the state.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:07 AM (o1kXv)

266 "What kind of journalism credentials do you have?
You're a former member of the Clinton admin turned TV personality. How
could you have any objectivitiy where the Republican party is
concerned?"





Posted by: RushBabe at January 11, 2013 07:15 AM (tQHzJ)


And THAT is how it's done people. We should have been attacking these so-called "journalists" for decades. We should always point out their very personal connections to the Democrat Party and Democrat Office Holders. (Cokie Roberts Father was a Democrat Senator.)



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:08 AM (bb5+k)

267 >>Yep, they know my kids, Crash and Dr. Destructo, on a first name basis.

The clinic should start issuing loyalty cards - you know, punch 6 visits and the 7th one's free?

Posted by: votermom at January 11, 2013 09:09 AM (S8IQW)

268 And don't get me started on HIPAA.

Actually, the problems with HIPAA are much more around enforcement (some of the law is intentionally very vague, but that makes it hard to enforce) and the fact that few medical office personnel have the reading comprehension skills of your average 6 year old.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:09 AM (5DR1j)

269 265, make health insurance a personal deductible and you have a trifecta

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 09:09 AM (u5ozF)

270 I swear I remeber this same post from last friday.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:03 AM (l86i3)



Yeah, I should just set up an epic_fail_me template.


*hands over bottle of tequila*
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:06 AM (da5Wo)



ISWYDT. *guzzles regardless*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 09:09 AM (VtjlW)

271 @262

Cut moi?

pourquoi?


Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 09:09 AM (RrD4h)

272 Required Emergency Room treatment is a result of the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986. It was an unfunded mandate passed by an overwhelming commie congress even though Republican had a slight majority in the Senate and RR was President.


He should have vetoed the law but did not.


However, an ER does not have to accept patients who come in for routine non-emergency conditions. This is where it gets complicated. Determining "non-emergency" is a judgement call by the doctors. It is subject to second guessing by ambulance chasing lawyers.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:10 AM (53z96)

273 76Further more,Edmund Moy, former director of the Mint says it is not legal because the $1T coin would be a bullion coin and there it would have to have $1T worth of platinum in it. Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 07:39 AM (53z96)Ah, Vic, once again using the clear meaning of a word, in this case "bullion", to attempt tosubvert the sophisticated arguments of legality by his superiors, the lawyers. But that won't work, because the lawyers can argue what the definition of "is" is.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 11, 2013 09:10 AM (YOWAW)

274 Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:10 AM (53z96)

Allow Nurses to triage and you would stop a lot of that crap.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:11 AM (l86i3)

275 Determining "non-emergency" is a judgement call by the doctors.

As a practical matter (see also "ambulance chasers"), it is not. As a practical matter (and actually encoded into law in most States, I think), if someone thinks they're having an emergency, the ER has to see and treat them.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:12 AM (5DR1j)

276 Vic, easy. Lawyer with a heart attack, non-emergency. Little 15th century guild warfare will tighten up the system.

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 09:12 AM (u5ozF)

277
"Luftmentsh" - an airhead, someone with is
head in the clouds, a dreamer. Person who has no business, trade,
calling, nor income.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 11, 2013 07:19 AM (XkWWK)

Had a Jewish friend tell me that Yiddish is mostly German. Seems about right as far as I can tell.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:12 AM (bb5+k)

278
Concerning the legality of the trillion dollar coin, if the administration wants it to be legal, for all intents and purposes it is legal.

The law is basically whatever the people charged with enforcing the law deem it to be.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 09:14 AM (ZDsRL)

279 Actually, having a government employee conducting the triage would be a solution. Can't sue the Man.

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 09:14 AM (u5ozF)

280 make health insurance a personal deductible and you have a trifecta
I'm actually a supporter of states imposing mandatory insurance requirements for emergency care. Require everyone to have insurance covering emergency room care up to ,say, $10,000 and say that while ERs must treat you even if you aren't insured, if they do you can be charged by the state. Most policies would come out to a few bucks a month at most,which is within reach even forpoor families. Those that can't afford it couldapply forcoveragethrough a state programbut it would come with restrictions.
Add to that a removal of the state restriction on medical schools and you'd eliminate much of the problem with health care in oneswoop.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:15 AM (o1kXv)

281 Every day, it seemed, I had to explain to the same clients that if they listed every problem as an emergency, then the only way I could work them was chronologically. If they wanted their support triaged, they'd have to rank them more reasonably, so I could really get to the most important things first.


I used to get stuck with everyone shrieking that their thing was most important. I had to sit down and explain that, yup, work got triaged and whoever was actually in trial got to go first because, guess what, they actually did need an answer in the next three minutes. You will be shocked to hear that there was those who still thought that their thing that wasn't due for three weeks came first.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 09:16 AM (VtjlW)

282 "The Secretary may mint and issue bullion and proof platinum coins in accordance with such specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time."

>>


::::253 @209

The secretary mints this coin emblazoned with 1 trillion on it and does what with it?

Hands it to the President and says spend it well my friend?

There is absolutely no authority for this anywhere dick face!
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 09:03 AM (RrD4h)::::


No, no - don't pay me. Put your coins in the monkey's hat. It's all part of the show.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 09:16 AM (JPrdt)

283 #254 Anna, is that your book?

I am going to make an Amazon order soon, which would include OP's book, MP's book, and yours, if that is the title.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 11, 2013 09:16 AM (GoIUi)

284
Congress, in its infinite wisdom, thought that
giving Treasury a broad grant of authority to mint and issue platinum
coins was a good idea. That was stupid of Congress, but just because
it's a stupid law does not mean it's illegal when Treasury exercises
that authority.


Posted by: Gabriel Malor at January 11, 2013 07:32 AM (jZUEZ)j

I would argue that it is not a real coin, and is never intended to be used in the manner of a coin, and therefore does not fall under the purvue of this section of the US Constitution. It is a gimmick designed to legally resemble a coin.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:17 AM (bb5+k)

285 Would you favor reinstating the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004?

http://tinyurl.com/mvgqkv

Posted by: Caustic at January 11, 2013 09:18 AM (/b8+5)

286 Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:15 AM (o1kXv)

Silly. You're trying to actually solve a real problem. That wasn't/isn't the point of Obamacare.

Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 09:18 AM (O7Q1u)

287 The crap you see in an inner city ER would make your hair turn white if it is not already white

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 09:18 AM (9Bj8R)

288 I used to get stuck with everyone shrieking that
their thing was most important. I had to sit down and explain that,
yup, work got triaged and whoever was actually in trial got to go first
because, guess what, they actually did need an answer in the next three
minutes. You will be shocked to hear that there was those who still
thought that their thing that wasn't due for three weeks came first.





Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 09:16 AM (VtjlW)


Wasn't there a post here yesterday about narcissism? People don't actually think their "thing" is more important than other people's, they think that THEY'RE more important than everyone else.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:18 AM (da5Wo)

289 soooooo caustic.....are you catpiss?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 11, 2013 09:18 AM (GVxQo)

290 Now a nominee for the fatest lie in today's headlines, I give you Governor Jerry Brown , from Mexifornia, who just said California is now in the Black...
and that old political caveat "as long as"

Posted by: Clemenza at January 11, 2013 09:18 AM (x59Gv)

291 Hell just make Jon Corazine Sec. Of the Treasury.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at January 11, 2013 09:19 AM (ajk+Y)

292 And THAT is how it's done people. We should have been attacking these so-called "journalists" for decades. We should always point out their very personal connections to the Democrat Party and Democrat Office Holders. (Cokie Roberts Father was a Democrat Senator.)

Her father, Hale Boggs, was actually the D Majority Leader of the House of Representatives. Her brother is a lobbyist or lawyer for a major left-leaning K Street firm in DC. The woman is chock full of objectivity, IOW.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 11, 2013 09:19 AM (Jcd0S)

293 Here's another story, since we're on the subject of HIPPA, that means nothing: Mom decides she needs life insurance. Goes to broker. Has him spend a bunch of time working up a huge policy, getting quotes from several different companies.
Company they go with requests medical records.
Offer to insure quickly withdawn; and now no company will insure her.
She only disclosed one minor illness to broker, but the Mayo Clinic knows something, not even the kids know what.
But, mom knew and used HIPPA to try and pull one over. In the old days, the broker could have called her hospital/doctor and learned all this up front before spending time on it.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 11, 2013 09:19 AM (imtbm)

294 Colorado, who would underwrite that policy? They would go broke in months. You can't give candy to children and tell them not to eat it.

Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 09:20 AM (u5ozF)

295 Miss Marple, no its not my book, The turn of phrase to describe a young girl caught in the middle of crossfire struck me as quite arresting.

I still need to finish up my rewrite. Then decide if I want to just Amazon e-book it. Or follow OSP's Amazon path to actually print the book, still need to research the costs of that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:20 AM (KnIgz)

296 If they ever hang me I hope they send someone who can balance the budget of this country first, to get the rope.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 11, 2013 09:20 AM (x59Gv)

297 I just minted some trillion dollar coins this morning.

S'cuse while I scoop 'em out of the bowl. I'm rich!

Posted by: Hester Mofet at January 11, 2013 09:20 AM (vzUSW)

298 Vic dropping the DOOM like its hawt...

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 11, 2013 09:21 AM (UZQM8)

299 I would argue that it is not a real coin, and is never intended to be used in the manner of a coin, and therefore does not fall under the purvue of this section of the US Constitution. It is a gimmick designed to legally resemble a coin.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:17 AM (bb5+k)



Who has standing to bring that argument? That's a serious question. Who do you think would be able to file suit to stop this when this utterly idiotic idea takes place? Who?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 09:21 AM (VtjlW)

300 I would argue that it is not a real coin, and is
never intended to be used in the manner of a coin, and therefore does
not fall under the purvue of this section of the US Constitution. It is a
gimmick designed to legally resemble a coin.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:17 AM (bb5+k)


As someone mentioned here yesterday, it doesn't matter what you think or even what Congress thinks the law means. When the law is unambiguous, outside context is immaterial. The law, while stupid, is simple and straightforward. What anyone intended for the law to say is irrelevant.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 11, 2013 09:21 AM (da5Wo)

301 In honor of Concord, Mass. banning water bottles (sidebar), Ralph Waldo Emerson's "Concord Hymn":

"By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood,
And fired the shot heard round the world.

The foe long since in silence slept;
Alike the conqueror silent sleeps;
And Time the ruined bridge has swept
Down the dark stream which seaward creeps.

On this green bank, by this soft stream,
We set to-day a votive stone;
That memory may their deed redeem,
When, like our sires, our sons are gone.

Spirit, that made those spirits dare,
To die, and leave their children free,
Bid Time and Nature gently spare
The shaft we raise to them and thee."

Somewhere, George III is laughing.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at January 11, 2013 09:21 AM (MSrqi)

302 The most productive and substantive thing ever done
by American lawmakers was writing the Constitution, and almost all
subsequent politicians/lawmakers have been acting so as to diminish that
document and its principles ever since.


Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at January 11, 2013 08:03 AM (Cnqmv)

I have long thought that after the first ten amendments, the subsequent amendments showed a distinct lack of brilliance both in intent and in the quality of the writing.
(Except of course for the 27th amendment, which was both sensible and well written. It was created by the founders, of course.)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:22 AM (bb5+k)

303 I watched Halo 4: Forward unto Dawn last night and I have a question. Is this movie just a setup for playing the game? Is there a movie for all the Halo games? Because it really wasn't bad. Kind of a short and cut rate Starship Troopers thing.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 11, 2013 09:22 AM (evdj2)

304 Krebs you forgot one brother of Hale Boggs. For decades after the plane vanished in Alaska with Boggs, this very quiet man would be found praying at St. Thomas the Apostle Church in Long Beach, MS.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:22 AM (KnIgz)

305
I've been following "the coin" discussion, and it seems to me Vic is pretty persuasive. The law touches on bullion coins, which are minted as investment vehicles and not "money" per se. Such things are purchased as an easy way for people to buy a guaranteed amount of bullion, not as a way to spend the face value of the coin in a novel way.

For instance, look at the Platinum Eagle program. These have a legal tender amount fixed to them, but it is far less than the actual value of the 1 oz of platinum that makes up the coin. This is, to me, distinct from the pennies, nickels, etc made by the mint where the face value far exceeds the material value of the coin.

Trying to say the Mint has the legal power to create a bullion coin with a face value in excess of the bullion value seems to me to turn the law on its head.

Posted by: JohnTant at January 11, 2013 09:23 AM (eytER)

306 http://tinyurl.com/bw7jlo8

Platinum price.

Posted by: Caustic at January 11, 2013 09:24 AM (/b8+5)

307 The law is basically whatever the people charged with enforcing the law deem it to be.

No, it's not.

Or, rather, it must not be if we want "the law" and "justice" to mean anything.

That's actually why having laws about anything that isn't fairly cut and dried is morally perilous. If there is an substantial possibility that the law will be given subjective, and not objective, judgement, then the law is unjust.

When the administration in charge can elect (without consequence) which laws to enforce, and how, we're asking for problems.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 11, 2013 09:24 AM (5DR1j)

308 The law is basically whatever the people charged with enforcing the law deem it to be.

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 09:14 AM (ZDsRL)

And this is the truth.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:24 AM (bb5+k)

309 Ministry of information, they get your expanded medical records and then they get your gun info and all the stuff that is not gun related, as some one said to me @ ACE sometime past, it is just another tool in the box for the Ministry of Information or Slavery or control..

Posted by: Clemenza at January 11, 2013 09:25 AM (x59Gv)

310 :::I would argue that it is not a real coin, and is never intended to be used in the manner of a coin, and therefore does not fall under the purvue of this section of the US Constitution. It is a gimmick designed to legally resemble a coin.:::

That's an entirely reasonable argument. Hopefully the SCOTUS will grant someone standing so they can make it, right before Roberts casts the fifth vote upholding it.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2013 09:25 AM (JPrdt)

311 One of the forgotten talents. Measuring out the proper rope length for a correct drop depending upon how much the person weighs and other factors. Really do not want the weight and elasticity of the rope to cause the condemned to actually touch the ground with their feet under the gallows do we? Disconcerting it would be.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:25 AM (KnIgz)

312 Obama Signs Bill Giving Him Armed Protection For Life

While simultaneously launching effort to disarm the American people
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
January 11, 2013
Despite launching a gun control agenda that threatens to disarm the American people, President Obama has signed a bill that would afford him armed Secret Service protection for life.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 11, 2013 09:26 AM (9Bj8R)

313
Remember that talk of the trillion dollar coin being made of platinum is irrelevant. It could be made of anything.

What value would you put on the coin if it was stamped out of weapons grade plutonium?

Posted by: jwest at January 11, 2013 09:26 AM (ZDsRL)

314
(Reuters) - Credit card company American Express Co said it would cut
about 5,400 jobs, or 8.5 percent of its workforce, as it restructures
its business and pay legal bills.

The steps will cost the company about $600 million in
charges in the fourth quarter after taxes, which will halve its net
income.







Just remember comrades the job market is improving

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2013 09:26 AM (1Jaio)

315 By the rude bridge that arched the flood,

The flag in anger they have stamped,

Here once, embattled farmers stood,

Forgotten now in occupies camp



Posted by: Department of Accuracy at January 11, 2013 09:26 AM (+I8Mq)

316 After that happens, you can bet the Leftie obsession with abortion will start to die down.

I doubt it, i never trust a fucking liberal. It will cause more gays to convert to the cons side though.

Posted by: gigg at January 11, 2013 09:27 AM (41VCE)

317 #292 It seems Shapiro took Breitbart's message to heart, and did really, really well.

This is why the RNC should stage their own debates, with their own questioners. They can do live stream and allow C-SPAN to air it. No questions from the MSM. None.

When the pressies start howling, we can trot out our bajillion examples of their destructive behavior and use their own tweets as supporting evidence.

And all of these politicians who make these disparaging comments about our side, even from the well of the Senate and the House Floor, should be nuked with their own connections and backgrounds. Why does Nancy Pelosi get to act like she is Mother Theresa? She is a self-excommunicated Catholic who should not be receiving the sacraments due to her support of abortion and her misleading ignorant Catholics with her false interpretation of Church law. She has a fortune built on the backs of illegal alien labor, non-union labor, and underhanded real estate deals by her husband. Enough.


Posted by: Miss Marple at January 11, 2013 09:27 AM (GoIUi)

318 @305

It's even larger than just the perversion of the law it's creating executive power out of the ether.


The mint cannot mint a coin imbue it with a "monetary value" and hand it to the President to spend at his discretion!

There is simply no authority for this action - NONE!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 09:28 AM (RrD4h)

319 Well, Horde, I give up on this week. Let's put it this way, this week has not been the most efficient work week I've ever had.

Here you are,Empress - tea and cookies.

And if Your Serene Highness will look just slightly to the right, the First Imperial Raptor Hussars are about to lead the charge against Piers Morgan. We gave him an assault rifle to make it more. . .sporting.

Or it would be sporting, had we also provided the ammunition. Enjoy, Imperial One.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 11, 2013 09:28 AM (zF6Iw)

320 News dump is up

Posted by: Vizzini at January 11, 2013 09:28 AM (O7Q1u)

321 Posted by: Miss Marple at January 11, 2013 09:27 AM (GoIUi)

Beck getting current TV would have been a good first step.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 11, 2013 09:28 AM (l86i3)

322 Add to that a removal of the state restriction on
medical schools and you'd eliminate much of the problem with health care
in oneswoop.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:15 AM (o1kXv)

The Medical supply is artificially restricted by the state. This, among other things is responsible for the high demand and high prices charged for such services.

I disagree with you about insurance. I regard Insurance as one of the major CAUSES of high medical costs. With someone else paying the bill, there is no incentive to be thrifty by those seeking or supplying medical service. In Engineering, this would be known as a broken negative feedback loop.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:30 AM (bb5+k)

323 jwest

Coins made of fissile material would certainly curb pickpockets while adding lead pockets to purses and slacks. And such coins would not rest long in those lead pockets for fear of collecting so many coins the pile goes critical.

And no I did not think that up on the spur of the moment. IIRC Larry Niven literally coined all that reasoning decades ago.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 11, 2013 09:30 AM (KnIgz)

324 The pundits seem to think that he is going to take the 14th amendment route anyway. That is just as illegal as the coin route.


The 14th amendment has zero to do with the ability to "borrow" in excess of the legal limit.


And you will NEVER get SCOTUS to accept a case on this. They will simply say congress has an option and refuse to grant standing.


Of course the option is impeachment. Something the Democrats will not vote for if they had proff that Obama was a pedophile who killed his victims after sex and then ate them.

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:30 AM (53z96)

325 The two biggest reforms that would fix the medical system are to reform the emergency room debacle and to end the deliberate shortage of medical schools imposed by the state.Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:07 AM (o1kXv)Two words: Nurses. Unions

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 11, 2013 09:30 AM (Usuai)

326 Require everyone to have insurance covering emergency room care up to
,say, $10,000 and say that while ERs must treat you even if you aren't
insured, if they do you can be charged by the state.


Kind of enjoying the mental image of all the gangstas going to prison after getting shot and unfortunately saved by surgeons....which is why your common-sense plan will never work politically: RAYCISS.

And now, a rant if I may:
Program manager walking around with his kid's Girl Scout Cookie form. I thought the whole point was that the child learns some social skillz (like manipulating men into giving them money, heh), not that Daddy can use his position to get them cool prizes. Feh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ (BAN ALL THE THINGS!) at January 11, 2013 09:31 AM (ZKzrr)

327 Since the "platinum" is not the relevant issue to the trillion-dollar coin (it just can't be gold or silver), I suggest the GOP get behind the idea, on the condition that the "coin" is made from horse manure.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at January 11, 2013 09:31 AM (MSrqi)

328 cont in new thread

Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2013 09:31 AM (53z96)

329 For those who might be curious, some contrary news of the AGW front.

Schools close in Northern Vietnam due to cold...

http://tinyurl.com/axkssja

(Never thought I'd a see a picture of people huddled around a fire in Hanoi...)

Record cold causes massive inflation of veggie prices in China...

http://tinyurl.com/9warwne

And, snowfall blankets Athens...

http://tinyurl.com/au5943m

From what I've read at WUWT... this may only be the beginning.

Lets see how the war on cheap energy works out...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 11, 2013 09:31 AM (1GunI)

330 Her father, Hale Boggs, was actually the D Majority
Leader of the House of Representatives. Her brother is a lobbyist or
lawyer for a major left-leaning K Street firm in DC. The woman is chock
full of objectivity, IOW.





Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 11, 2013 09:19 AM (Jcd0S)

I was misinformed. Thank you for correcting me.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:34 AM (bb5+k)

331
Who has standing to bring that argument? That's
a serious question. Who do you think would be able to file suit to
stop this when this utterly idiotic idea takes place? Who?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Seriously, Sheldon/Penny to the end. at January 11, 2013 09:21 AM (VtjlW)


Something I learned from the Eligibility issue is that no one has standing to accuse THIS group of people of anything. So it might be legally correct, but defacto irrelevant.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:37 AM (bb5+k)

332 Epic commentary over at Protein Wisdom on Gabe's piece on the coin...

Posted by: Lt. York at January 11, 2013 09:41 AM (39Xyc)

333 Gee, Gabe, you completely missed the critique of strict textualist interpretations of the law over at Protein Wisdom. Maybe you could take a look and respond.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at January 11, 2013 09:48 AM (8hBZi)

334 @332

I particularly love this comment:

"Malor has never even been a “conservative in quotation marks.”

And he is easily the most foolish voice the “right” has on fake
money, its causes, uses, and end results. Undoubtedly it didn’t matter
what the Framers intended* once Y2K Ponzi America rolled around and
everybody got owned."




"clever" lawyer he!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 11, 2013 09:49 AM (RrD4h)

335 333 Wm T Sherman,

careful or he'll pull a fucking drew and nuke us all...

Posted by: sven10077 at January 11, 2013 10:03 AM (LRFds)

336
*holds envelope to forehead* It will be a big flop.


*opens envelope* A realistic Godzilla movie.



Wasn't that pretty much the point of Cloverfield?

Posted by: Armando at January 11, 2013 10:07 AM (5iuEW)

337 JJ Sefton @ 45 -

You could add Mangalores to that list. They were the bad aliens from "The Fifth Element."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 11, 2013 10:32 AM (xjpRj)

338 Morning 'rons, yet more work. Will be at the Columbus Beer Festival tomorrow evening, any other OH morons planning on attending? I can be reached at conservativecrank at gmail dot com if anyone wants to meet up.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 11, 2013 10:35 AM (FqcJu)

339 The two biggest reforms that would fix the medical system are to reform the emergency room debacle and to end the deliberate shortage of medical schools imposed by the state.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 11, 2013 09:07 AM (o1kXv)


265, make health insurance a personal deductible and you have a trifecta
Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2013 09:09 AM (u5ozF)


Something else that would help: allow health insurance marketing across state lines.

Posted by: Bill H at January 11, 2013 04:54 PM (3sZO1)

340 I would argue that it is not a real coin, and is never intended to be used in the manner of a coin, and therefore does not fall under the purvue of this section of the US Constitution. It is a gimmick designed to legally resemble a coin.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 11, 2013 09:17 AM (bb5+k)


You make a good point- it is just an accounting gimmick- problem being, if it legally resembles a coin, my guess is it is a coin. Then again, I'm not a high-falootin' fancy pants lawyer with an edukashun and stuff.

Posted by: Bill H at January 11, 2013 05:02 PM (3sZO1)






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