Snub? Zero Dark Thirty Director Refused In-the-Bag Oscar Nomination Due to Equivocal Treatment of Torture

They appreciate daring, edgy films that challenge assumptions and ask uncomfortable questions, but only if we're talking about challenging other people's assumptions and asking other people uncomfortable questions.

Their own assumptions, they need relentlessly reaffirmed and their preferred answers relentlessly restated.

Apparently the Bradley Cooper movie, Silver Linings Playbook, is pretty good. It got a bunch of nominations, in all the major categories. I saw him play one clip on Leno and it was pretty funny. I'd link it but I can't find it. I'd explain the joke but it would ruin it.

And Les Mis I guess is good. And Lincoln, though the subject matter sounds pretty dry. (Apparently it's not about the life of Lincoln or the Civil War, but only the behind-the-scenes politicking over the 13th Amendment.)

The rest of the nominations are here. No, you officially do not have to care. I really don't care myself. But I guess it's news.


Oscar Loves a Comeback!

... is a sentence I have never in my life spoken and do not plan on doing so in the future.


Funny Review of Les Mis: Recommended by a commenter.


The Oscars' Poor Performance In Selecting the Best Film of the Year: A commenter writes:

These same yahoos were saying "The Last Emporer" was the best picture in 1988 (we walked out of that stupid film after about 13 minutes) and that "Shakespeare In Love" was best picture over "Saving Private Ryan."

It's a pretty well-known bit of lore that, at least since the early eighties, the best film in any particular year is almost certainly not the one which won Best Picture at the Oscars. As they do with documentaries (you can tell the Academy hasn't bothered seeing the documentaries, and just vote based on which subject they find the most worthy), the Academy doesn't even see all the nominated movies, and tends to pick which movie they think they should like, and which seems "weightiest" or "most important."

Thus a lot of movies which no one in the world even remembers, let alone re-views like "Out of Africa" take home the prize. The Academy's choice for Best Picture is almost completely unrelated to actual merit, influenced by things like "Have I heard of this guy? Which movies did I actually see?" and "Which film seems like the sort of film a college Intro to Film Studies professor would approve of?" than artistic and audience impact.

I think it would be an interesting experiment for someone to start naming the best films of past years, retrospectively. I mean, people do this in articles, but I mean actually have some body of critics review movies from fifteen years or twenty years ago and now nominate those movies that really persisted in the memory and impacted the imagination. Not the duds like Out of Africa.

Posted by: Ace at 06:16 PM



Comments

1 At least Tarantino didn't get a nod...

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at January 10, 2013 06:18 PM (0tRzD)

2 If I was reading this in the paper in the woos, I probably would use it for fire starter...

Posted by: Clemenza at January 10, 2013 06:19 PM (x59Gv)

3 Good one, Ace. That's exactly what it is. That's how we wind up with crap like English Patient and The Piano.

Posted by: Cricket at January 10, 2013 06:20 PM (2ArJQ)

4 John Woos?



I know.

Posted by: SurferDoc at January 10, 2013 06:20 PM (6H6FZ)

5 @ 1
The horse in Cat Balou could give you a nod.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 10, 2013 06:20 PM (x59Gv)

6 Waterboarding is icky. Killing American citizens with drones is cool.

The liberal mind is like a hive of bees.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2013 06:22 PM (UOM48)

7 what happens when I voice post from iphone

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2013 06:22 PM (rHH3f)

8 Actually I think the 50 cal used in the Wild Bunch to kill the Corrupt Mexican Military should get a nod.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 10, 2013 06:22 PM (x59Gv)

9 Lincoln was good but it almost seemed, i dunno, too self-aware at times? not sure if that's the right word. i'm thinking one scene where Tommy Lee Jones's character is trying to get a Democratic vote for the 13th and the words "Republican" and "Democrat" are used multiple times, almost like they're a little too fascinated by the particulars of the partisan splits at the time.

Posted by: JDP at January 10, 2013 06:23 PM (60GaT)

10 I believe rendition is still cool.
for Obama as long as no one speaks of it.

Posted by: ette- at January 10, 2013 06:23 PM (nqBYe)

11 Oh, right, and The Passion can't ever be Best Picture, because it's about, well, him, and it actually takes him seriously. Never mind that it is a work of art and a great commercial success.

Posted by: Cricket at January 10, 2013 06:24 PM (2ArJQ)

12 Just saw silver linings...ummm...less than light hearted romantic drama. what's the big deal?

I guess it's cause Cooper didn't go full retard.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 10, 2013 06:24 PM (QxSug)

13
An I-phone? You've got and I-Phone?

1 percenter!!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at January 10, 2013 06:24 PM (RFeQD)

14 Silver Linings Playbook was, in fact, quite good.

Cooper was surprisingly good, with great range. Even the Hunger Games chick was solid.

DeNiro sucked. He played the same character he always plays, just not as well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2013 06:24 PM (GsoHv)

15 Spielberg's films always seem like technical exercises, I never get a sense of story from them. The grand exception being Jaws, one of the best movies ever.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 10, 2013 06:24 PM (DuH+r)

16 Go to the MattWalshblog, scroll down and read his review of "Les Miz..." for non stop hilarity.

Posted by: navybrat at January 10, 2013 06:24 PM (BzGtc)

17 I think Clint Eastwoods Colt should get a nod to...

Posted by: Clemenza at January 10, 2013 06:25 PM (x59Gv)

18 Best Short Film: Bill Clinton, starring in "I Did Not Have Sex With That Woman"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 10, 2013 06:25 PM (QKKT0)

19 At least Tarantino didn't get a nod...


He did for screenplay and for Best Picture.

You know what I find hilarious about the whole vapors about ZDT and it's treatment of torture? Here's a movie that treats reality in the way it is, that is to say messy and without clear cut answers. Well, hey now, isn't that what art is supposed to do? Hold up a mirror to life?


I'm so glad to see that Denzel's obvious Oscar baiting paid off.

Oh I bet De Niro gets his hey you're old here you go Oscar.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 10, 2013 06:25 PM (Gk3SS)

20 When the movie comes out about drone strikes which killed civilians under Bush, and then missed all non-combatants under Obama, there will have to be a new award that's even better than an Oscar.

Maybe they'll call it a Rusty Trombone or Donkey Punch.

Something.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 10, 2013 06:26 PM (EdGYI)

21 6

well torture vs. killing are questions of a different nature

i always found some of the anti-drone arguments a little opportunistic, not that blowback can't be real, but if you don't tread carefully you slip into "they hate us cuz we're mean to their terrorists" Ron Paul territory

Posted by: JDP at January 10, 2013 06:26 PM (60GaT)

22
What? Sky Atlas didn't get a nomination?

What is this witchcraft?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at January 10, 2013 06:26 PM (RFeQD)

23
A wink is just as good.

So I hear.

Posted by: A blind horse at January 10, 2013 06:26 PM (yiIja)

24 Does that make Tarantino the Clemens/Bonds of Directors?

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at January 10, 2013 06:27 PM (0tRzD)

25 "...Jaws, one of the best movies ever."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 10, 2013 06:24 PM (DuH+r)

I saw it a few months ago, expecting it to have aged, as most 35 year old movies will.

It hadn't. It was great.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2013 06:27 PM (GsoHv)

26 Kiss of the Spider Woman could not be reached for comment....

sigh

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 06:27 PM (LRFds)

27 Does that make Tarantino the Clemens/Bonds of Directors?


Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at January 10, 2013 06:27 PM (0tRzD)



Scottie Pippen. Obligatory inclusion in oh of course he's great.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 10, 2013 06:28 PM (Gk3SS)

28 20
When the movie comes out about drone strikes which killed civilians
under Bush, and then missed all non-combatants under Obama, there will
have to be a new award that's even better than an Oscar.



Maybe they'll call it a Rusty Trombone or Donkey Punch.



Something.

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at January 10, 2013 06:26 PM (EdGYI



*golf clap*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2013 06:28 PM (UOM48)

29 The Skyfall music was pretty good Bond stuff. Better / less contrived than the script at least. On the other hand, if they gave Oscars for the Best First Five Minutes, then Skyfall would have a decent chance.

Posted by: and irresolute at January 10, 2013 06:29 PM (DBH1h)

30 I'm sure when they come out with a new Obama flick where American's are being assassinated the left will yawn..

oh forget it i'm sure when it happens it will not be on the mfm.

well and to be a whistleblower These days is quite dangerous.

Posted by: ette- at January 10, 2013 06:29 PM (nqBYe)

31 Quoting Ace: "

Apparently the Bradley Cooper movie, Silver Linings Playbook,
is pretty good....And Les Mis I guess is good. And Lincoln, though the
subject matter sounds pretty dry. (Apparently it's not about the life
of Lincoln or the Civil War, but only the behind-the-scenes politicking
over the 13th Amendment.)"
These same yahoos were saying "The Last Emporer" was the best picture in 1988 (we walked out of that stupid film after about 13 minutes) and that "Shakespeare In Love" was best picture over "Saving Private Ryan"

Really, the Oscars and all those other awards are pretty much libs scratching the backs of other libs anyway. I ignore these stupid ceremonies.

Posted by: Mr_Write at January 10, 2013 06:29 PM (CLkAH)

32 Oh I bet De Niro gets his hey you're old here you go Oscar.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 10, 2013 06:25 PM (Gk3SS)

Did you see that movie? Everybody else was good, but DeNiro mailed it in with one of his three rotating characters, only with less energy.

He hasn't made a good movie in a long, long time. I think Heat might have been his last solid character.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2013 06:30 PM (GsoHv)

33 As a Jaws fan, I finally got around to reading the novel.
Pretty damn good, and some parts better than the movie. Except pretty much ALL the characters in the book were pricks.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 10, 2013 06:30 PM (5FHfg)

34 My movie has, like, a whole town burning up. Let's talk about my movie for a change. C'mon guys! Pleeeeeease!

Posted by: MATT DAMON!!!! at January 10, 2013 06:30 PM (QKKT0)

35 The People's Choice Awards are the big ones.
All of the polling is done in the public restrooms in The Great Wall of China.

Kinda hard to argue with those numbers.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2013 06:31 PM (aZ6ew)

36 And Les Mis I guess is good.

♫ If you think ♬
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is entertaining ♯

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 10, 2013 06:31 PM (feFL6)

37 31 Mr-write,

yes they are not for our benefit we are not invoted they want us watching only to mock us.

Watch the recap to figure out who is blowing whom and move on.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 06:31 PM (LRFds)

38 I'm waiting for the film on Operation Fast and Furious.

The blame will fall on Boooosh, with Chinless Wonder working furiously to clean up the mess he "inherited."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2013 06:31 PM (UOM48)

39 Thaddeus Stevens, was a hard core, abolitionist, who didn't particularly care for Lincoln, who he probably regarded as an AINO,

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 10, 2013 06:32 PM (Jsiw/)

40 I can't stand these hollywood circle jerk award ceremonies. Wifey loves them.

Posted by: Bosk at January 10, 2013 06:32 PM (n2K+4)

41 , btw , was this the movie that was supposed to come out before the election and make Obama look good?

and where a leaker just got drug into court for giving information out?

or was that leaker to do with something else?

Posted by: ette- at January 10, 2013 06:32 PM (nqBYe)

42 As far as I'm concerned Argo was the only movie worth a shit last year. Les Miserables, give me a fucking break.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at January 10, 2013 06:32 PM (ZOf1l)

43
The Clemens/Bonds of directors is Martin Scorcese.

He's a truly great director, has made a bunch of really good movies.
Oscars? Zip.

Somewhere along the line, he pissed off the "Academy", and they will not give him one. Someday when he is really old (which he is now, frankly) , they will give him some kind of "Lifetime Achievement Award".

I hope he tells them to stuff it.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at January 10, 2013 06:33 PM (RFeQD)

44 32 Charlie Brown's Dildo,

I actually rather enjoyed his turn in "the Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle"


Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 06:33 PM (LRFds)

45 I'm waiting for the film on Operation Fast and Furious.

The blame will fall on Boooosh, with Chinless Wonder working furiously to clean up the mess he "inherited."


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2013 06:31 PM (UOM4

xactly.

Posted by: ette- at January 10, 2013 06:33 PM (nqBYe)

46 I don't care if he's good, I can't abide by the idea of a limey playing good old Abe.

Bradley Cooper/Les Miz -- only if you're ghey.

I'll see the torture flix because I like to see bad guys tortured. Hey, he was only waterboarded. Asshole cd have given up the goods at any time and stopped it. Anyway, no harm, no foul.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 10, 2013 06:33 PM (O8DFT)

47 It's been nothing short of amazing watching how fast Libs have turned on a movie they thought was supposed to be dedicated to how fucking Awesome Obama is.

Posted by: drawandstrike at January 10, 2013 06:33 PM (uVLJc)

48 Except pretty much ALL the characters in the book were pricks.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 10, 2013 06:30 PM (5FHfg)


Excuse me, I fucking died in the book asshole!

Posted by: Richard Dreyfuss at January 10, 2013 06:34 PM (ZOf1l)

49 "The Avengers" was great, but since it made a pile of money it can't be Oscar material.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 10, 2013 06:34 PM (DuH+r)

50 No, that's Obama is an awesome fuckup.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at January 10, 2013 06:35 PM (RFeQD)

51 Les Miserables, give me a fucking break.


I dreamed a dream that you shot yourself.

Posted by: Fantine at January 10, 2013 06:35 PM (QKKT0)

52 Les Miz: Fight Dream Hope Love

...

Puke

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 10, 2013 06:35 PM (51as7)

53 38 Jane D'oh,


er ah gee Eric of course we'll fix that program of no across the border untracked incursions by allowing 1500 fully automatic weapons across the border without any tracking....great idea!

/Generaly Manly Throw mcMomJeans

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 06:35 PM (LRFds)

54
A real snoozer was Gandhi. And it didn't even show us the pervy Gandhi.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 10, 2013 06:35 PM (O8DFT)

55 re: "At least Tarantino didn't get a nod..."

Right.

The important thing is that the only serious director whose movies are popular doesn't get rewarded for that.

Pour encourager les auteurs.

To give up on stupid "film" and "art" and their dreams and shit, and make TV-movie trash like Spielberg does.

Or, fuck it, musicals.

TV people like those, too.

Posted by: oblig. at January 10, 2013 06:36 PM (cePv8)

56
I can't stand these hollywood circle jerk award ceremonies. Wifey loves them.

Me too. I'm glad B'Gal doesn't like them either. I watched the Grammy awards for a while, until around the early '90's, when rap started getting popular. Now, I just check the awards the next day and look waaaaayyy down the list for the good stuff, like best blues album and the like.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 10, 2013 06:37 PM (yiIja)

57 "55 re: "At least Tarantino didn't get a nod..."

Right.

The important thing is that the only serious director whose movies are popular doesn't get rewarded for that.

Pour encourager les auteurs.

To give up on stupid "film" and "art" and their dreams and shit, and make TV-movie trash like Spielberg does.

Or, fuck it, musicals.

TV people like those, too.

Posted by: oblig. at January 10, 2013 06:36 PM (cePv "

Tarantino is a serious director?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 06:37 PM (nGO/U)

58 No nominations for 2016: Obama's America. Wonder why that is?

Posted by: Jmel at January 10, 2013 06:37 PM (9tSXa)

59 So I'm confused. Are we supposed to see Zero Dark Thirty or not? I had it on my "no see list" because of all the special pentagon treatment but I guess if it ruffles liberal feathers I should go see it?

Posted by: tsrblke at January 10, 2013 06:37 PM (GaqMa)

60 Oscar loves a Brokeback -- a Comeback, not so much.

Yeah, it's all about the narrative and the hegemony. I haven't watched the Oscars since Jessica Tandy lectured the Academy for snubbing Spike Lee. I think it was Paddy Chayevsky who moments later bitchslapped her. Verbally.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 10, 2013 06:38 PM (n4EDK)

61
Did you see that movie? Everybody else was good, but DeNiro mailed
it in with one of his three rotating characters, only with less energy.



Yup and I totally agree that he mailed it in. That's also why I believe he'll win. It's his turn since Meryl Streep wasn't nominated.


As far as Scorcese, his lifetime achievement is all he's doing for film preservation. That is going to end up being more important than his films.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 10, 2013 06:38 PM (Gk3SS)

62 Maybe someone else has said already, but the Oscar voters pulled out every excuse in the world to avoid giving "Saving Private Ryan" the Best Picture nod back in the 90s.

Real reason--hey, do I even need to say it? God forbid they honor noble American sacrifice at the same time they are figuring out how to make a few hundred million off another gangster or horror film.

Posted by: H. at January 10, 2013 06:39 PM (bZQi9)

63 It's their Oscars give them to whom ever they wish

Posted by: occam at January 10, 2013 06:39 PM (Ngpgi)

64 Yes, that one, ette, Michael Vickers, is the one who gave up the name of the Seal, and likely the CIA interogator, who dominates the first act.

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 10, 2013 06:39 PM (Jsiw/)

65 16 Go to the MattWalshblog, scroll down and read his review of "Les Miz..." for non stop hilarity.
Posted by: navybrat at January 10, 2013 06:24 PM (BzGtc)


GREAT take-down. Actually I have a theory that the story in the book was a melodrama Hugo cooked up to get us to read his long, pretentious essays about Paris. I think he might have been shocked to see the melodrama immortalized and the essays forgotten. Sort of like the idiots who made Man of La Mancha and without the faintest notion that the book was a rather bitter satire of chivalry and Quixote is a fool.

Posted by: Cricket at January 10, 2013 06:39 PM (2ArJQ)

66 "59 So I'm confused. Are we supposed to see Zero Dark Thirty or not? I had it on my "no see list" because of all the special pentagon treatment but I guess if it ruffles liberal feathers I should go see it?

Posted by: tsrblke at January 10, 2013 06:37 PM (GaqMa) "

If you don't want to see a movie, you probably shouldn't...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 06:39 PM (nGO/U)

67 Oscar nominations? I nominate Michael Moore. He'd make a fine grouch. He'd need a bigger trashcan, though. Much bigger.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 10, 2013 06:39 PM (eHIJJ)

68 59 TSRBike,

they are going through the motions...

I will NOT see it.

Scooter libby went to jail for misremembering being the non originating leak of a non secret sooper secret agents identity.

Horrywood got to read eyes only level TS stuff illegally.

Fuck them and the left.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 06:39 PM (LRFds)

69 Waldo Truth: "A real snoozer was Gandhi. And it didn't even show us the pervy Gandhi."

I thought this was a slow but good movie, but then I learned what a pervomatic Ghandi was. YIKES!

And...leave it to Hollyweird to leave out those kind of details on someone they admire.

Posted by: Mr_Write at January 10, 2013 06:41 PM (CLkAH)

70 I've heard Zero Dark Thirty is really good...from conservatives.

Barky barely gets a mention.

Husband and I want to see it (if he can ever leave work in time to catch a movie that's not a midnight showing).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2013 06:41 PM (UOM48)

71 "70 I've heard Zero Dark Thirty is really good...from conservatives.

Barky barely gets a mention.

Husband and I want to see it (if he can ever leave work in time to catch a movie that's not a midnight showing).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2013 06:41 PM (UOM4 "

Well, you could always pirate it...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 06:43 PM (nGO/U)

72 I can't stand these hollywood circle jerk award ceremonies. Wifey loves them.
----

I never watch the awards ceremonies or care who wins, but I used to like the catty red carpet fashion shows they'd put on a day or two later. I can't even enjoy those any more b/c the whole industry is too busy dry humping M'chelle Obama's (considerable) leg.

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2013 06:43 PM (5H6zj)

73 thank you , cardinal fang.

Posted by: ette- at January 10, 2013 06:44 PM (nqBYe)

74 I like tha Oscars, but only to look at the dresses.
I like water boarding and enhanced interrogation because it gives us intel. I am less enamored of drones only because it deprives us of a chance to interrogate, if we can. I truly do not care ifterrorist are tortured or die.I'm very practical that way.

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2013 06:44 PM (Dnbau)

75 As far as Scorcese, his lifetime achievement is all
he's doing for film preservation. That is going to end up being more
important than his films.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 10, 2013 06:38 PM (Gk3SS)

One thing that I will say about Scorcese -- he does not ever mail it in. He works his ass off on his movies. And he loves the industry, warts and all. Too bad he is probably a lib.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2013 06:45 PM (GsoHv)

76 71 MUMR,

I am ethically bound or have been not to engage in piracy, but if as dear leader has shown laws are optional inasmuch as your conscience allows perhaps there's something to it.

I'll save the money to buy any Seals or UDT men I meet a beer.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 06:45 PM (LRFds)

77 The Clemens/Bonds of directors is Martin Scorcese.

He's a truly great director, has made a bunch of really good movies.
Oscars? Zip.


? He won with The Departed.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 10, 2013 06:46 PM (dB/9W)

78 70 I've seen it. I recommend it very highly.

Yes, it shows 'torture'. Remember, we had years of 'torture' discussion from people who think sleep deprivation and waterboarding somehow equals attaching electrical wires to genitalia.

Interrogation is about mentally breaking a subject so they will tell you something they don't want you to know.

As long as we aren't physically damaging these terrorists, I say give them all the sleep deprivation, walling, waterboarding it takes until they crack.

The Left keeps pretending they 'won' this argument about EIT's.

Posted by: drawandstrike at January 10, 2013 06:47 PM (uVLJc)

79 i tell ya, everything outta hallywood is completely obsessed with race...

if you were an alien coming to this planet and saw all this stuff, what the hell would you think?

Posted by: rev dr e buzz at January 10, 2013 06:47 PM (ApGOC)

80 "76 71 MUMR,

I am ethically bound or have been not to engage in piracy, but if as dear leader has shown laws are optional inasmuch as your conscience allows perhaps there's something to it.

I'll save the money to buy any Seals or UDT men I meet a beer.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 06:45 PM (LRFds) "

Giving Hollywood any money is a worse sin.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 06:47 PM (nGO/U)

81
One thing that I will say about Scorcese -- he does not ever mail it in. He works his ass off on his movies. And he loves the industry, warts and all. Too bad he is probably a lib.

Didn't he do a Rolling Stones concert and The Last Waltz too?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 10, 2013 06:48 PM (yiIja)

82 "Maybe someone else has said already, but the Oscar voters pulled out
every excuse in the world to avoid giving "Saving Private Ryan" the Best
Picture nod back in the 90s.



Real reason--hey, do I even need to say it? God forbid they honor
noble American sacrifice at the same time they are figuring out how to
make a few hundred million off another gangster or horror film."

^ ^ ^ This!

Posted by: Mr_Write at January 10, 2013 06:48 PM (CLkAH)

83 I saw Django Unchained, and I found it to be extremely absurd. I tried to engage in the experience, but found that none of the characters were worth caring about enough to give a rat's ass.

Posted by: Fritz at January 10, 2013 06:48 PM (w3+gB)

84 I consider it a good day when I learn something new, like a useful phrase, for example. The linked review introduced me to "tornado of crap". It is a good day.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 06:49 PM (6TB1Z)

85 I've read several good reviews of ZDT from our side as well.
One recently from PJMedia.

Most common criticism was the perceived focus on the one young female analyst.

I haven't seen it myself, but plan to when it's finally released for home theaters.

Bigelow is pretty hot for an older gal btw.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2013 06:49 PM (aZ6ew)

86 fuck Hollywood, everyone who w*rks there* and all their stupid awards.

(*and yes, there may be some decent people in the overall group, but if you associate with and support scum, you're scum in my book.)

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 10, 2013 06:49 PM (8MasJ)

87 I can't stand that Bigelow chick.She is already overrated.Hurt Locker was a piece of shit.

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 06:49 PM (9XBK2)

88
if you were an alien coming to this planet and saw all this stuff, what the hell would you think?

That cats are the dominant lifeform.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 10, 2013 06:49 PM (yiIja)

89 I've read Les Miserables...unabridged.

If you are thinking about doing so, I have one word for you: OMGNODONTDOIT. It's approximately 1,833 pages of lavish descriptions of minor skirmishes in the French Revolution interspersed with characters who appear in a grand total of one scene and yet get to talk even on for like 5 pages with no paragraph breaks. Jean Valjean and Inspector Javert, as interesting as they may be, show up for maybe 100 pages total, and you have to slog through a hell of a lot to get to them.

I like old books, and I even like books where "nothing happens" - I loved Middlemarch, for crying out loud - and I could not stand Les Miserables. Ugh.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at January 10, 2013 06:50 PM (8yAw7)

90 Didn't he do a Rolling Stones concert and The Last Waltz too?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 10, 2013 06:48 PM (yiIja)

Stones? Don't know. But yes on The Last Waltz.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2013 06:51 PM (GsoHv)

91 "78 70 I've seen it. I recommend it very highly.

Yes, it shows 'torture'. Remember, we had years of 'torture' discussion from people who think sleep deprivation and waterboarding somehow equals attaching electrical wires to genitalia.

Interrogation is about mentally breaking a subject so they will tell you something they don't want you to know.

As long as we aren't physically damaging these terrorists, I say give them all the sleep deprivation, walling, waterboarding it takes until they crack.

The Left keeps pretending they 'won' this argument about EIT's.

Posted by: drawandstrike at January 10, 2013 06:47 PM (uVLJc) "

The weird thing is that the people who wet themselves about enhanced-interrogation techniques seem to have no problem with the idea that punitive sodomy is the height of morality.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 06:51 PM (nGO/U)

92 Waiting for the announcement for Actor of the Year. It should be a shoe-in for Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 10, 2013 06:51 PM (n4EDK)

93 The English Patient sucked. A "romance" about a women who cheats on her husband with a douche bag who gives maps to the Nazis? phhhfffftttttt

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2013 06:51 PM (Dnbau)

94 to clarify, I think Les Mis is about the Revolution of 1830 and not the one of 1795, which is the one we call "The French Revolution." Right?

Posted by: ace at January 10, 2013 06:52 PM (LCRYB)

95 Russell Crowe should be forever banned from appearing in a musical.

Posted by: Ben Rumson at January 10, 2013 06:52 PM (SzAZ7)

96 89
I've read Les Miserables...unabridged.



If you are thinking about doing so, I have one word for you:
OMGNODONTDOIT. It's approximately 1,833 pages of lavish descriptions of
minor skirmishes in the French Revolution interspersed with characters
who appear in a grand total of one scene and yet get to talk even on for
like 5 pages with no paragraph breaks. Jean Valjean and Inspector
Javert, as interesting as they may be, show up for maybe 100 pages
total, and you have to slog through a hell of a lot to get to them.



I like old books, and I even like books where "nothing happens" - I
loved Middlemarch, for crying out loud - and I could not stand Les
Miserables. Ugh.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at January 10, 2013 06:50 PM (8yAw7



I had to read it in French in high school. And write a wordy report. Ugh. Les Mis was ruined for me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2013 06:52 PM (UOM48)

97 well 1792 to 1795 or whatever. The Reign of Terror one.

Posted by: ace at January 10, 2013 06:52 PM (LCRYB)

98 Ace needs to study the movie review technique of Matt Walsh.
I read every word!

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 10, 2013 06:53 PM (Qxe/p)

99 another year of no love for foreign films. Motorway should have been nominated for cinematography with the way they filmed the chase scenes in narrow alleyways

Posted by: The Dude at January 10, 2013 06:53 PM (vJdyz)

100 @94
Yup. But since most people can't even put the French Revolution in the correct century, I wouldn't worry about it.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 06:54 PM (6TB1Z)

101 Honestly I don't understand why anybody likes that movie. Very disappointing. I'm not against "enhanced interrogation" at all, but I think it's rather well established that waterboarding didn't lead to bin laden in any way... some quote-unquote "enhanced interrogation" was involved at a very very early stage, but it wasn't waterboarding. It was sleep deprivation if I remember right. I think one of the people involved in the intel had been waterboarded at one point, but this took place years before any of the intel related to bin laden was released. A lot of former CIA folks in the know, who themselves aren't against waterboarding, have been rather forthright about all this.

Again, not against waterboarding, but I am against BS history revisionism. Tell the true freaking story or keep your mouth shut. The movie makes it look like waterboarding was this integral thing and it's just total fabrication.

Moreover, what the heck is with Maya? The movie turns the hunt for bin laden into a freaking feminist wet dream where all the real high speed CIA operatives in the mid east are women. Not to take anything against women, I know women are in the CIA, but I also know this story is BS. And yet again, this is also something that a lot of former CIA operatives who were actually there have been vocal about. There was no Maya, male or female, she didn't exist.

Long story short, the movie just wasn't true to the history at all. The libs are idiots for attacking the interrogation stuff, but why are the conservatives lauding the film as some kind of masterpiece?

Posted by: Andrew at January 10, 2013 06:54 PM (HS3dy)

102

can't believe you're still giving Hollywood your money


Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2013 06:54 PM (1WM2H)

103 Alfred Hitchcock never won an Oscar. Neither did Cary Grant. I think that says a great deal about the value of the award.

(Yes, I know Rebecca won, but that went to David Selznik and not Hitchcock.)

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 10, 2013 06:54 PM (DuH+r)

104 I downloaded a few Hugo books to the Kindle but have never really felt like doing anything beyond that.

The page length is indeed forbidding.

Posted by: ace at January 10, 2013 06:54 PM (LCRYB)

105 95
Russell Crowe should be forever banned from appearing in a musical.

Posted by: Ben Rumson


I know, right? He really sucks at it.

Posted by: Clint Eastwood at January 10, 2013 06:55 PM (6TB1Z)

106 Didn't someone say Bigelow only got an Oscar because sher was hot?

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 06:56 PM (9XBK2)

107 According to Jose Rodriguez, who ran the program, but he's a White Hispanic, as head of Operations, they exaggerate the 'torture' metted out to Ammar, who did give us the name of the Courier, but it does make Obama look like a clueless doofus, who doesn't know what he is talking about,

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 10, 2013 06:56 PM (Jsiw/)

108 "105 95
Russell Crowe should be forever banned from appearing in a musical.

Posted by: Ben Rumson

I know, right? He really sucks at it.

Posted by: Clint Eastwood at January 10, 2013 06:55 PM (6TB1Z) "

Needs more transvestite Travolta.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 06:57 PM (nGO/U)

109 The English Patient sucked.

This might be the best, most accurate movie review ever to grace the pages of AOSHQ.

Posted by: jakeman at January 10, 2013 06:57 PM (96M6e)

110 The page length is indeed forbidding.

You have to get in the groove. The abridged version wasn't too bad, but for people unused to the much slower plotting in older books, it can get tedious. Then you go back to a newer book and it seems like everyone is on speed.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 06:57 PM (6TB1Z)

111 can't believe you're still giving Hollywood your money


^^^^^ this


I saw Les Mis on Broadway. It was wonderful. One of the greatest entertainment experiances of my life, no sarc, no shit.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 10, 2013 06:57 PM (l86i3)

112 Posted by: Clint Eastwood at January 10, 2013 06:55 PM (6TB1Z)

Partner, you ain't kidding.

Posted by: Ben Rumson at January 10, 2013 06:57 PM (SzAZ7)

113 I like old books, and I even like books where "nothing happens" - I loved Middlemarch, for crying out loud - and I could not stand Les Miserables. Ugh.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at January 10, 2013 06:50 PM (8yAw7)


Mrs Peel....where have you been?

Posted by: John Steed at January 10, 2013 06:57 PM (2ArJQ)

114 Didn't someone say Bigelow only got an Oscar because sher was hot?


Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 06:56 PM (9XBK2)

no, she got it because Near Dark was snubbed

Posted by: The Dude at January 10, 2013 06:58 PM (vJdyz)

115 A little late to the party but I'm rather shocked that The Master wasnt nominated for best film. The cinematography is supposed to be amazing as well as the editing.

Posted by: Sassy at January 10, 2013 06:58 PM (UxUKn)

116 3
I liked "The Piano". Kind of a chick flick.

Posted by: Tuna at January 10, 2013 06:58 PM (M/TDA)

117 94 to clarify, I think Les Mis is about the Revolution of 1830 and not the one of 1795, which is the one we call "The French Revolution." Right?
Posted by: ace at January 10, 2013 06:52 PM (LCRYB

Right.

Posted by: John Steed at January 10, 2013 06:59 PM (2ArJQ)

118 Which French Revolution featured the longbows?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at January 10, 2013 07:00 PM (SzAZ7)

119 Very bad movie year for me. Nothing that interests me in the least, with the possible exception of "Hitchcock." (I'll have to rent it since I missed the few lousy days they were showing it here.)

I did see "Les Miz," having been dragged there by some friends. Having read the book, I thought it would bore me, but I must admit it did not. It annoyed the crap out of me. Just awful.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 10, 2013 07:00 PM (C8mVl)

120 I am sorry, remind me again why I should give a shit about the Oscars?

I am not ghey or a chick.

Why the hell is this a thread on this right wing military blog?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at January 10, 2013 07:01 PM (tWFaN)

121 Oh, and Ms. Bigelow is rather easy on the eyes.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 07:01 PM (6TB1Z)

122 117 94 to clarify, I think Les Mis is about the Revolution of 1830 and not the one of 1795, which is the one we call "The French Revolution." Right?
Posted by: ace at January 10, 2013 06:52 PM (LCRYB

Right.
Posted by: John Steed at January 10, 2013 06:59 PM (2ArJQ)

Or, Right.

Posted by: Cricket at January 10, 2013 07:01 PM (2ArJQ)

123 93
But wait. He only gave maps to the Nazis to get a plane to get back to his injured lover after the British refused to listen to him and took him prisoner as a Nazi spy.

Posted by: Tuna at January 10, 2013 07:01 PM (M/TDA)

124 Why the hell is this a thread on this right wing military blog?

Ace is trying to expand your horizons. How's that going, by the way?

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 07:02 PM (6TB1Z)

125 Crash, no way it should have won, none.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 10, 2013 07:02 PM (NzBQO)

126 Yes, it shows 'torture'. Remember, we had years of 'torture' discussion
from people who think sleep deprivation and waterboarding somehow
equals attaching electrical wires to genitalia.



In 'Nam we had a trained organ grinder who cranked the generator to electify Charlie's tiny yellow dick. We were like an entire unit of Jen-jiss Khans, plus an organ grinder.

Posted by: John F'n Kerry (D) War Hero at January 10, 2013 07:02 PM (QKKT0)

127 The review of Les Mis reminded me of my review of Rent: I was rooting for AIDS by the end.

Posted by: NYCcon at January 10, 2013 07:03 PM (jLXdE)

128

Ace would easily be snubbed by the Academy for screenwriter for TORTURE'S HANDMAIDEN starring Adam Baldwin, Nick Searcy, and Angie Harmon.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2013 07:03 PM (KwX0v)

129 "124 Why the hell is this a thread on this right wing military blog?

Ace is trying to expand your horizons. How's that going, by the way?

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 07:02 PM (6TB1Z) "

The Oscars aren't much of a horizon. :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 07:03 PM (nGO/U)

130 Without the name Al Kuwaiti, which was given up by at least three of the detainees, we don't find the guy,

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 10, 2013 07:03 PM (Jsiw/)

131 Which French Revolution featured the longbows?


The one where the English won.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 10, 2013 07:03 PM (QKKT0)

132 "Shakespeare In Love" gave me cancer.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2013 07:04 PM (Rq+Vo)

133 Isn't Mooch up for an Oscar?Maybe a Grammy.Basically these are reach arounds for fellow leftists anyway.

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 07:04 PM (9XBK2)

134 79
i tell ya, everything outta hallywood is completely obsessed with race...



if you were an alien coming to this planet and saw all this stuff, what the hell would you think?





Posted by: rev dr e buzz at January 10, 2013 06:47 PM (ApGOC)
Nuke . Orbit.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 10, 2013 07:05 PM (AWmfW)

135 123 93
But wait. He only gave maps to the Nazis to get a plane to get back to his injured lover after the British refused to listen to him and took him prisoner as a Nazi spy.
Posted by: Tuna at January 10, 2013 07:01 PM (M/TDA)

"He only gave maps to the Nazis." Parodist at work?


Posted by: Cricket at January 10, 2013 07:05 PM (2ArJQ)

136 109
It did have a lovely soundtrack though.

Posted by: Tuna at January 10, 2013 07:05 PM (M/TDA)

137 "...not the one of 1795, which is the one we call "The French Revolution."

Posted by: ace at January 10, 2013 06:52 PM (LCRYB)

Well, it began in 1789, and Louis was executed in 1793, so.......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2013 07:05 PM (GsoHv)

138
Lincoln was good but it almost seemed, i dunno, too self-aware at times? not sure if that's the right word.

It insisted upon itself.

Posted by: Peter Griffin at January 10, 2013 07:05 PM (0WLla)

139 129 MUMR,

The last person who spoke of expanding my horizons tried slipping me an LSD Mickey.

My ex was horrified at the notion of my being on hallucinogens.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 07:05 PM (LRFds)

140

incidental alert:

the "safe" Nyquil not only fails to knock you out like the old Nyquil, it makes you feel worse two hours later

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2013 07:06 PM (1WM2H)

141 :::57 "55 re: "At least Tarantino didn't get a nod..."

Right.

The important thing is that the only serious director whose movies are popular doesn't get rewarded for that.

Pour encourager les auteurs.

To give up on stupid "film" and "art" and their dreams and shit, and make TV-movie trash like Spielberg does. ::

Serious director? He had two good films. Not great. Good.

His penchant for Kevin Smith-type dialogue, where the characters shit out as many words as they can possibly spew in 90-second "exchanges" which are thinly disguised sermons.

Smith uses them to hold forth on his faggy sociopolitical views; Tarantino uses them to bludgeon us with his encyclopedic knowledge of 80s pop culture and fringe nerdery.

NOBODY TALKS LIKE THAT. His characters are all fucking annoying. Because they're all him. And "him" isn't someone I would choose to spend my free time with.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2013 07:06 PM (JDIKC)

142 Best Picture of a given year is the one that made the most money.

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 07:06 PM (9XBK2)

143 "133 Isn't Mooch up for an Oscar?Maybe a Grammy.Basically these are reach arounds for fellow leftists anyway.

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 07:04 PM (9XBK2) "

Why isn't Obama up for one?


(Is it homophobia?)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 07:06 PM (nGO/U)

144 101 You are incorrect.

The leader of the 3rd Seal Team on the Bin Laden raid wrote a book under the name 'Garry Owen'.

He's the guy that was in the door of the chopper that crashed that almost fell out during the crash. He was also right behind the point man on the stairway when bin Laden was shot. He's the guy who pulls his camera out and snaps the pictures of Bin Laden's corpse.

In his book he reveals there WAS a redheaded CIA analyst named 'Jen' who had spent 10 years of her life trying to find OBL.

Also KSM did indeed give up vital information leading to the name of the OBL courier after being waterboarded.

So that's 2 things you managed to get wrong in 1 post.

Please make sure you know what you are talking about, it will help the conversation.

Posted by: drawandstrike at January 10, 2013 07:06 PM (uVLJc)

145
>>> Best Picture of a given year is the one that made the most money.

Yikes, that would be The Dark Knight, ya?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2013 07:07 PM (hNqVf)

146 127 The review of Les Mis reminded me of my review of Rent: I was rooting for AIDS by the end.
Posted by: NYCcon at January 10, 2013 07:03 PM (jLXdE)


Sick, but you have me rolling on the floor.

Posted by: Cricket at January 10, 2013 07:07 PM (2ArJQ)

147 135 cricket,

Victim of liberal mainstreaming of treason....Manning, Obama, Clinton etc etc

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 07:07 PM (LRFds)

148 "139 129 MUMR,

The last person who spoke of expanding my horizons tried slipping me an LSD Mickey.

My ex was horrified at the notion of my being on hallucinogens.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 07:05 PM (LRFds) "

LOL.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 07:07 PM (nGO/U)

149 >>>He won with The Departed

Did you see the end, when I had a big rat run across the screen? I am the master of symbols! A regular da Vinci with all that hidden shit.

Posted by: Martin Scorcese at January 10, 2013 07:08 PM (hUbRl)

150 144 Redhead eh?With big tittehs and green eyes?

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 07:08 PM (9XBK2)

151 Can't believe they snubbed my fav with Jamie killing Tea Bagger crackers!

Posted by: Herbert Anusrupture at January 10, 2013 07:09 PM (dvRYt)

152 124
Why the hell is this a thread on this right wing military blog?

Ace is trying to expand your horizons. How's that going, by the way?


Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 07:02 PM (6TB1Z)

Well, just hoping ace hasn't turned on us. A ghey ewok could be pretty messy.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at January 10, 2013 07:09 PM (tWFaN)

153 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 10, 2013 06:57 PM (l86i3)


That's the kind of shit that Broadway absolutely nails every now and then.

I saw Chicago on Broadway, expecting to hate it and fall asleep. I had a fabulous time. Now...there were gorgeous women in lingerie dancing around for two hours, but still......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2013 07:09 PM (GsoHv)

154 Sorry guys, I'm glad Oscar is finally recognizing my talents but that Deuce Bigalow ship has sailed years ago. Just wait and see me play an alien transvestite, laughs all around.

Posted by: Rob Schneider at January 10, 2013 07:09 PM (ZOf1l)

155 :::111 can't believe you're still giving Hollywood your money:::

Yeah, because Atlas Shrugged, Part ZZzzzz... and Sarah Palin: TEH UNDEFEATED are some riveting fucking entertainment.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2013 07:10 PM (JDIKC)

156 132
"Shakespeare in Love" was kind of cute in it's own way. Not Oscar material though. Judy Dench was excellent as Queen Elizabeth. Made me wish someone would cast her in that role as the older Elizabeth in some other movie.

Posted by: Tuna at January 10, 2013 07:10 PM (M/TDA)

157 One thing that sticks in my craw about Saving Private Ryan,that speech by Sizemore about how it was the only good thing or some such that they did in the war.

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 07:11 PM (9XBK2)

158 "155 :::111 can't believe you're still giving Hollywood your money:::

Yeah, because Atlas Shrugged, Part ZZzzzz... and Sarah Palin: TEH UNDEFEATED are some riveting fucking entertainment.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2013 07:10 PM (JDIKC) "

That reminds me. I should probably get around to watching Atlas Shrugged. :-P

(The Fountainhead was shorter.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 07:11 PM (nGO/U)

159 Anybody see Cloud Atlas? That looked all kinds of "important" and "serious."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2013 07:11 PM (JDIKC)

160
How about Lez Miz & Les Zombies? Adding some zombies always makes a story better. It's a lot like bacon...

Posted by: Waldo Truth at January 10, 2013 07:12 PM (O8DFT)

161 "And "him" isn't someone I would choose to spend my free time with."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2013 07:06 PM (JDIKC)

What? You don't like middle class kids who want to be "ghetto?"

Tarantino never fucking grew out of that phase. Most teenagers are done with it by 20.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2013 07:13 PM (GsoHv)

162 "159 Anybody see Cloud Atlas? That looked all kinds of "important" and "serious."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2013 07:11 PM (JDIKC) "

The last good movie I saw was City of Ember.

(Or perhaps Terminator: Salvation.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 07:14 PM (nGO/U)

163 >>159
Anybody see Cloud Atlas?


I believe Adam Lanza saw an early screening.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2013 07:14 PM (Rq+Vo)

164
One thing that sticks in my craw about Saving Private Ryan,that speech
by Sizemore about how it was the only good thing or some such that they
did in the war.



You mean the Meth-addled Sizemore who liked Asian whores pissing on him and who used to live in a garage. That Tom Sizemore?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at January 10, 2013 07:15 PM (ZOf1l)

165 The last good movie I saw was City of Ember.


The King's Speech was good. After that, geez, what a wasteland.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 07:15 PM (6TB1Z)

166 >>>Russell Crowe should be forever banned from appearing in a musical.

He was musically talented in "Fightin' Round the World"

Posted by: wooga at January 10, 2013 07:17 PM (hUbRl)

167 164 Yeah,but I'm pretty sure he didn't write the speech himself.

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2013 07:17 PM (9XBK2)

168
Can you read, Jeff?

What part of "not giving Hollywood your money" suggests you shouldn't still watch their shitty movies?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2013 07:17 PM (vzLhi)

169 "165 The last good movie I saw was City of Ember.


The King's Speech was good. After that, geez, what a wasteland.

Posted by: pep at January 10, 2013 07:15 PM (6TB1Z) "

Never saw it.

(There was just too much crap after 2008 and I stopped giving a shit about Hollywood.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 07:17 PM (nGO/U)

170 164 Samuel Adams,

Yeah that fella....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 07:18 PM (LRFds)

171 Oh, maybe the Wrestler was good.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 07:18 PM (nGO/U)

172 Neu Thread! Can abandon this thread about Hollywood self-absorbition.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 10, 2013 07:18 PM (KnIgz)

173 3:10 to Yuma, the remake, was good.

Posted by: wooga at January 10, 2013 07:19 PM (hUbRl)

174 I don't know about the movie version, but the stage production of 'Les Mis' is great.

You get to see a bunch of French occutards get shot in the face, too.

Posted by: wingnutx at January 10, 2013 07:19 PM (hZ4bD)

175 "172 Neu Thread! Can abandon this thread about Hollywood self-absorbition.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 10, 2013 07:18 PM (KnIgz) "

Danke. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 10, 2013 07:19 PM (nGO/U)

176 166 >>>Russell Crowe should be forever banned from appearing in a musical.

He was musically talented in "Fightin' Round the World"

Posted by: wooga at January 10, 2013 07:17 PM (hUbRl)


I actually thought he made the remake of 3:10 to Yuma worth watching.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at January 10, 2013 07:19 PM (Qxe/p)

177 169 MUMR,

We need a conservative Bollywood.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 07:19 PM (LRFds)

178 :::168
Can you read, Jeff?

What part of "not giving Hollywood your money" suggests you shouldn't still watch their shitty movies?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2013 07:17 PM (vzLhi):::

So steal their intellectual property via BitTorrent or Pirate Bay? No thanks.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2013 07:20 PM (JDIKC)

179 178 EoJ,

Yeah I consulted for a game company I pay my way.....

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 07:24 PM (LRFds)

180 Award shows peaked with the USA Up All Night B- Movie Awards. Joe Don Baker or Erik Estrada? Choices, choices!

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 10, 2013 07:29 PM (dvRYt)

181 We are remarking how if you show too much of the truth, as Bigelow inadvertently did, you get blackballed. If however, you front a pack of lies like 'Julianne's Bender' Game Change, you get a @#$load of awards.

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 10, 2013 07:30 PM (Jsiw/)

182 You mean the Meth-addled Sizemore who liked Asian whores pissing on him and who used to live in a garage. That Tom Sizemore?
Posted by: Samuel Adams at January 10, 2013 07:15 PM (ZOf1l)

He's just keepin it real.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 10, 2013 07:30 PM (l86i3)

183 I gave up on the Oscars in '76 when "Network" won everything except Best Picture, which went to "Rocky."

As my old boss used to say, "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Eventually, every asshole gets one." He should know; he won two including for "The Godfather."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 10, 2013 07:31 PM (XkWWK)

184 "The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel" was cute. Maggie Smith, Judy Dench and a bunch of older English character actors. They make you realize what a talentless bunch of young actors we have here in the States.

Posted by: Tuna at January 10, 2013 07:32 PM (M/TDA)

185 Bogart's "Sahara" was a better movie than "Saving Private Ryan".

Posted by: Chris Balsz at January 10, 2013 07:33 PM (NaTuS)

186 Or just hire Russian music video producers
http://youtu.be/wTAIv3cBwlQ

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 10, 2013 07:34 PM (KnIgz)

187 186 Anna Puma,

You know I mentioned Ivanland being worth immigrating to with a few reservations.

Ms 10077 liked the brunette.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 10, 2013 07:36 PM (LRFds)

188 184 "The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel" was cute. Maggie Smith, Judy Dench and a bunch of older English character actors. They make you realize what a talentless bunch of young actors we have here in the States.
Posted by: Tuna at January 10, 2013 07:32 PM (M/TDA)

I did like it, but I thought the ending was a bit too Hollywood. B to B minus in my book.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 10, 2013 07:37 PM (XkWWK)

189 Sven so you saying she has ample tracts of land barely constrained by physical barriers?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 10, 2013 07:38 PM (KnIgz)

190 Ancora qui was by far the best song

Posted by: Avi at January 10, 2013 07:39 PM (Kw7Uh)

191 Yes Ace, you are right. I read it a long time ago and had forgotten the action was during the Reign of Terror. I think they did do a ton of flashbacks, though; I remember a meticulous description of battles of yore that took place in some street in Paris. I dunno, it's all run together in my head now.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at January 10, 2013 07:46 PM (8yAw7)

192 Most of these message films, of the last decade, like Rendition ,Elah, was funded by that film arm of Dubai, as was this one, they also underwrote Men in Black 111, 'for reasons passing understanding'

Posted by: cardinal fang at January 10, 2013 07:52 PM (Jsiw/)

193 Which French Revolution featured the longbows?

Agincourt.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at January 10, 2013 08:04 PM (HoGA+)

194 I sat through Out of Africa.

3 hours I'll never get back in my life.

Also, Dave in Texas review of Les Miserables:

A French guy steals a loaf of bread and he never hears the end of it.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at January 10, 2013 08:08 PM (pUqSw)

195 Sometimes the get it right, rocky and unforgiven come to mind.

Sometimes they get it wrong, the English patient over boogie nights.

Hollywood sucks now and almost everything is unwatchable now.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 10, 2013 08:16 PM (bZKG0)

196 The Academy Awards is nothing but a trade show and and orgy of self congratulation. Not worth the global warming coal fired electricity to watch.

Posted by: Alaska Paul at January 10, 2013 08:23 PM (Hc+rA)

197 Out of Africa is one of my favorite movies. I usually watch the oldies, from the 30's and 40's, but we did see Lincoln and Les Mis and they were both wonderful. first movies we have seen in a theatre in a long time.

Posted by: megthered at January 10, 2013 08:34 PM (iR4Dg)

198 What the fuck is a movie?

Posted by: Enoch Thompson at January 10, 2013 08:36 PM (Xf6HL)

199 Greetings:

I saw the PBS Newshour's report on this question the interviewˇes were a woman from "The New Yorker" and Mark Bowden, author of "Black Hawk Down". What kind of surprised me was how the question about what happens when the threat of torture is removed.

Posted by: 11B40 at January 10, 2013 08:53 PM (aWNvh)

200 Lincoln was excellent. Worth your time. Goes by fast, want to see it again.

Friends who saw les mis say that it will get the Oscars, not Lincoln. Haven't seen Les Mis. You have to be in the right frame of mind to know that you are deliberately treating yourself to a bummer of a night after you've seen the movie.

Argo is supposed to be spectacular. It's all politics but didn't see one person today who didn't say "Ben Affleck was robbed" after they said Seth was hysterical.

Posted by: Caustic at January 10, 2013 09:22 PM (/b8+5)

201 Out of Africa???

Bah!!!

Best Picture that year was Witness, with Harrison Ford, Kelly McGillis, Alexander Godunov.

Posted by: RB at January 10, 2013 09:22 PM (+IUQr)

202 I'm already on record as giving Les Miserables my highest possible recommendation, right?

Great movie. A shame Tom Hooper wasn't nominated for Best Director though I can understand why a little. The criticisms of the film mostly come down to the cinematography and the casting of Russel Crowe (though I liked Crowe's performance myself).

Django was overlong genre filmmaking. Good, but not good enough from a great director.

Zero Dark Thirty...looking forward to it, but Kathryn Bigelow is not a particularly great director. Subject matter be damned, she's just not able to hold a candle to her peers. Dude, she did Point fecking Break for gawd's sake. Elevating the artform she ain't. And The Hurt Locker just sucked. Sucked, man. She got the Oscar that year for the fact that she's a woman.

What is this Silver Lining Playbook? Why is it all over the awards list? Is it serious? Comedy? Dark comedy? Romantic comedy? I think it's a comedy, right?

Another year, another bnch of movies no one saw. If the Academy changed the rules to nominate upwards of ten movies you'd think that something like The Avengers could at least get a nomination for Best Picture. Come on, at least as a nod to the summer blockbusters. Or The Dark Knight Rises. Jesus...

Oscar prediction: Best Picture and Director go to two different movies. I bet Ang Lee gets Best Director and Lincoln wins Best Picture (with Tony Kushner winning for Best Adapted Screenplay).

Posted by: Robert at January 10, 2013 09:53 PM (LUnTP)

203 And kind of surprised no nomination for Affleck for Argo.

Considering how much buzz that movie got...oh well.

Posted by: Robert at January 10, 2013 09:54 PM (LUnTP)

204 2particular years stand out, for me, in regards oscar snubs and the rewarding of dreck.

1979- Apocalypse Now, Being There, Alien, The Great Santini, Life Of Brian.. What won? Kramer vs Kramer.

1980- Raging Bull, The Empire Strikes Back, The Shining, Breaker Morant, Mad Max. What won? Ordinary People.

Posted by: otho at January 10, 2013 10:56 PM (yBF/9)

205 144, haven't read that book. You make a good point, perhaps worthy of done more investigation. But question, if that is true, why have a whole bunch of seals come out calling own a liar, and why do a bunch of CIA vets also call BS? Who should be believed?

Posted by: Andrew at January 10, 2013 11:03 PM (HS3dy)

206 Argo and ZD30 were sorta kinda pro-America, and really, really pro American warrior. So, no Oscar for them! They are not "asking questions" and "challenging assumptions"!!

Lincoln was good, but actually Day Lewis squeaky voice sounded like James Taylor! Weird.

Les Miz was good, not as good as the play, but good.

Posted by: PJ at January 11, 2013 12:21 AM (ZWaLo)

207 For a better take on good films that have stood the test of time, try the Library of Congress National Registry of Films. More public involvement too which is a good thing.

Posted by: wg at January 11, 2013 08:43 AM (qOOkS)

208 I still think that Apollo 13 should have won the Oscar for Best Picture, instead of Braveheart.

Posted by: ejazzyjeff at January 11, 2013 08:50 AM (esVMi)






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