3.3 Million Workers Are Essentially Now Permanently Unemployed

They've given up even looking, as they haven't looked for work in the past year.

And they're officially excluded from the main unemployment stats, as "unemployed" is defined as seeking employment. Which they're too discouraged to do. They've given up.

Ignoring the hopeless might make it seem like the long-term unemployment problem in the United States is slowly improving.

[T]he growing number of hopelessly unemployed is worrisome. Studies widely show the longer a person is unemployed, the weaker his or her chances are of getting a job.

At some point, long-term unemployment can lead workers to become permanently detached from the labor force. That's not good for the economy.

"We know we have this huge pool of missing workers," Shierholz said. "And we are not yet in a labor market that draws people in."

One sentence I cut from that is the claim that unemployment figures have fallen "sharply" since 2009. Sharply?

2012 offered the public two competing visions: One of growth fueled by the private sector, the other an economy in which the government simply hired more government workers, and extended or increased benefits for the unemployed. Unfortunately, the chose the latter.

The only optimistic thought I have is that capitalism is a philosophy for the risk-taking and for the courageous, and it could be that in times of incredible economic stress, people's courage just deserts them. We saw this with FDR, too.

Posted by: Ace at 12:54 PM



Comments

1 It's Obama's world. We only slave in it.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 07, 2013 12:55 PM (QupBk)

2 This country is so boned.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2013 12:55 PM (GFM2b)

3 When O'Liar is gone and the economy recovers some of them will go back to work.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 12:55 PM (53z96)

4 Letting the government grade itself is asking for trouble

And bullshit

Posted by: TexasJew at January 07, 2013 12:55 PM (lD8ju)

5 We only slave in it.

Mongo only pawn.

Posted by: Mongo at January 07, 2013 12:56 PM (S/WR4)

6 So, if you courage deserts you, doesn't that make you a coward?

Posted by: maddogg at January 07, 2013 12:56 PM (OlN4e)

7 Since my life's ambition is to be a bum, albeit a comfortable bum, I can understand people taking the money.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 07, 2013 12:57 PM (QupBk)

8 The only optimistic thought I have is that capitalism is a philosophy
for the risk-taking and for the courageous, and it could be that in
times of incredible economic stress, people's courage just deserts them.
We saw this with FDR, too.




Unfortunately Ace we haven't been a capitalist country since before the early 1900s. We have moved past socialism now and are working hard on communism as ocrapweasel nationalizes more and more industry and the gov takes more and more private property.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 12:58 PM (53z96)

9 The only optimistic thought I have is that capitalism is a philosophy for the risk-taking and for the courageous,

Until they see/realize the tax rates. Then "why bother" will kick in.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2013 12:58 PM (GFM2b)

10 And that is how we got where we are at now

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 12:58 PM (53z96)

11
7"Since my life's ambition is to be a bum, albeit a comfortable bum, I can understand people taking the money."




Embrace your inner parasite!

Posted by: maddogg at January 07, 2013 12:59 PM (OlN4e)

12 Why else have 99 weeks of unemployment gravy? To keep these losers from looking, and artificially lower the rate.

Posted by: zsasz at January 07, 2013 12:59 PM (RDP+N)

13 One day I'm going to just walk the Earth, like Kwai Chang Caine. Helping people and having adventures and shit.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 07, 2013 12:59 PM (QupBk)

14 We should probably stop calling them "workers", then.

We can instead refer to them more-accurately as "Democrat Primary Voters".

It's all going according to plan for the Cloward-Piven crew, isn't it.

Posted by: DocJ at January 07, 2013 01:00 PM (A5uiv)

15 capitalism is a philosophy for the risk-taking and for the courageous

You don't just "start a company". You do the math. If you can't make money, you won't!

Posted by: t-bird at January 07, 2013 01:00 PM (FcR7P)

16 We have moved past socialism now and are working hard on communism as ocrapweasel nationalizes more and more industry and the gov takes more and more private property.
Posted by: Vic


There are no multi-million dollar vacations under communism nor are there attractive places to visit.

This is clientelism at best and fascism at worst.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 07, 2013 01:01 PM (KDq5l)

17 Lower the minimum wage down to .25c and hour so we can compete with China and Mexico.

Wait - just eliminate it altogether!

Posted by: Ayn Rand at January 07, 2013 01:01 PM (JVUS6)

18 My Walking the Earth will probably be restricted to relatively temperate areas though. You didn't see Kwai Chang Caine in Minnesota in the winter.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 07, 2013 01:01 PM (QupBk)

19 Well I'm sure Obama is disappointed. Come on he wants all of us permanently unemployed or working for him. Do we know if he still has opening in his own "civilian army?" I heard they are offering full medical, contraception and dental. Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Raquel at January 07, 2013 01:01 PM (IJOxR)

20
"You don't just "start a company". You do the math. If you can't make money, you won't!'

Heh.

Posted by: Solyndra at January 07, 2013 01:02 PM (b1VIZ)

21 Until they see/realize the tax rates. Then "why bother" will kick in.

Yeah. Don't confuse "courageous" with "doesn't give a shit about consequences."

Getting maimed or killed by an IED to save the soldiers under your command? Guys do that because it's worth it.

Working yourself into an early grave for the Free Shit Army? Forget it!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 07, 2013 01:02 PM (ZKzrr)

22 Once more, we have failed Him.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 07, 2013 01:02 PM (QupBk)

23 And besides look at the bright side those permanently unemployed can now get their free Obamaphone and ObamaIpad and never miss another episode of day time Jerry Spinger/Montel Williams programming.

Posted by: Raquel at January 07, 2013 01:03 PM (IJOxR)

24 @20 Math doesn't apply to Friends of Barack's "Stash of Cash".

Posted by: DocJ at January 07, 2013 01:03 PM (A5uiv)

25 The peasants must learn to expect less, and make do with less. In the Obamatopia, the future will be cold, dark and dreary. Unless you're one of the favored elites, of course.

This is what this country voted for in the last election.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2013 01:03 PM (QKKT0)

26 18My Walking the Earth will probably be restricted to relatively temperate areas though. You didn't see Kwai Chang Caine in Minnesota in the winter.Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 07, 2013 01:01 PM (QupBk) Didn't he accidentially hang himself in a closet while choking his chicken?

Posted by: maddogg at January 07, 2013 01:03 PM (OlN4e)

27
Once again swallowing Progressive bullshit ('the only thing we have to fear...').
"It's the incentives, stupid."

Posted by: MlR at January 07, 2013 01:04 PM (vR2l5)

28 There are no multi-million dollar vacations under communism nor are there attractive places to visit.

That would be news to that fat Kim kid who's been launching rockets. Most of his life has been one long vacation in hot spots for playboys.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 07, 2013 01:04 PM (ZKzrr)

29 I was lied to. I was told there would be no Math and now there's been two posts in a row using Math.

I want my subscription fee back.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 07, 2013 01:04 PM (da5Wo)

30 Moar DOOM.

Posted by: iNC Ref at January 07, 2013 01:04 PM (xcMxa)

31 These people will start becoming front page stories the minute a republican becomes president.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 07, 2013 01:04 PM (4oHCZ)

32
CNN, huh? You know, one could almost wonder if they could've covered this sort of thing prior to the past November...

Nah, that'd just been silly.

Posted by: Jess1 at January 07, 2013 01:05 PM (lbiWb)

33 Lots of people would kill for a McJob about now.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 07, 2013 01:05 PM (QupBk)

34 While unemployed, you rubes will pollute less and use fewer valuable resources which will preserve the Earth for future generations. You will also rightfully be more dependent on your benevolent government, which is now free to steer your life choices in the "proper" direction.

Take our advice: Live Simply(tm).

Posted by: Your Betters at January 07, 2013 01:06 PM (cv5Iw)

35 >>>The only optimistic thought I have is that capitalism is a philosophy
for the risk-taking and for the courageous, and it could be that in
times of incredible economic stress, people's courage just deserts them.
We saw this with FDR, too.

Alternately the spark has gone out for America, and she no longer has the will to succeed. The rugged individualism that defined a nation, built it, drove it to the top, has been replaced with collectivisim, and entitlism. And given a choice between being dependent and standing on their own, the US by and large would choose to be dependent.

Yeah call me the dark cloud.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 07, 2013 01:06 PM (0q2P7)

36 :::Unfortunately Ace we haven't been a capitalist country since before the early 1900s:::

You don't say. Hey, Vic, tell that story again about the time you and Millard Fillmore went to that titty bar in Raleigh.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff Workhouses and Shanty-Town Condominiums at January 07, 2013 01:06 PM (ll6WS)

37 On the upside.....


Hobo hunting will no longer have a bag limit, the hunting season will be expanded..... and hobo hunting licenses will be issued for life.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2013 01:06 PM (nELVU)

38 Once more, we have failed Him.

McKayla is not impressed.
http://is.gd/Wi4fDv

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 07, 2013 01:06 PM (ZKzrr)

39 I was lied to. I was told there would be no Math and now there's been two posts in a row using Math.

I want my subscription fee back.


No can do. That would require math.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2013 01:07 PM (GFM2b)

40 While unemployed, you rubes will pollute less and use fewer valuable resources which will preserve the Earth for future generations. You will also rightfully be more dependent on your benevolent government, which is now free to steer your life choices in the "proper" direction.

Related: Pravda published an article saying that global warming was bullshit, made up by Western elites to gain themselves money and power.

(Link in my name to Weasel Zippers story)

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2013 01:08 PM (B/VB5)

41 MFM: They're funemployed!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2013 01:08 PM (1Jaio)

42 3When O'Liar is gone and the economy recovers some of them will go back to work.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 12:55 PM (53z96)
Sure, but then there'll be an uptick in the unemployment rate for a while as they're added in, which will feed the MSM's "Republicansdestroying theeconomy!!eleventy!!" narrative.
Things will get a lot worse before they get better.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 07, 2013 01:08 PM (zgHLA)

43 37
Hobo hunting will no longer have a bag limit, the hunting season will be expanded..... and hobo hunting licenses will be issued for life.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2013 01:06 PM (nELVU)


Sorry, the hobo hunting preserves will be off-limits to commoners.

Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2013 01:08 PM (zoehZ)

44 Funemployment!

Posted by: Jaws at January 07, 2013 01:09 PM (4I3Uo)

45 Come on Capitalism is so like outdated anyways...Like the new fad is getting free government shit. As we found out in the last election.

Posted by: Raquel at January 07, 2013 01:09 PM (IJOxR)

46 You don't say. Hey, Vic, tell that story again about the time you and Millard Fillmore went to that titty bar in Raleigh.

____________________________________

They were called ankle bars back then, and you had to buy the dames a Sarsaparilla for two bits a piece before they'd pull the slip up and give you a good view.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 07, 2013 01:09 PM (Nfpnr)

47 The peasants must learn to expect less, and make do with less. In the
Obamatopia, the future will be cold, dark and dreary. Unless you're one
of the favored elites, of course.



I predicted long ago on one of the Monty Doom threads that we would become 50s era Soviet Russia. American women would stand in line hours for day old bread. They would live in drab slab sided concrete barracks called housing. All would live a miserable existence working in gov run factories and institutions.


All this while the Obamapparatchiks cruise the streets in their outmoded Zils which look like checker cabs.


A socialist flood sinks all boats.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 01:09 PM (53z96)

48
I don't visit blogs nearly as much lately. There is no good news for conservatism- none.
It's like watching daily CAT scans of your malignant tumor. Yep, still there, still growing.

Posted by: a billion subatomic epileptic kittens at January 07, 2013 01:10 PM (SCcgT)

49
The only optimistic thought I have is that capitalism is a philosophy for the risk-taking and for the courageous, and it could be that in times of incredible economic stress, people's courage just deserts them. We saw this with FDR, too.


Don't forget that amorphous concept known as "luck." The Left has convinced too many people in the world that those who have become successful have only managed it through luck: luck of birth, luck of race, luck of era, luck of geography, luck of gender. The hard work and grit that many of these successful individuals and companies slogged through to reach their success is ignored or denigrated. "The only reason you're not successful is because you're not lucky enough to have been any of these people. Don't even bother trying to duplicate their success because it can't be done." That's the message that's sent.

The old saw that you can be anything you want to be if you just work hard enough has become nothing more than a trite aphorism. If you start off from a hard scrabble background you can certainly work your way up to becoming a millionaire, but don't expect anyone to respect you for it. Don't you know you're just some lucky jerk who only "made it" because you're white/male/young/from the suburbs? Because of people like YOU, there are all these unlucky people lolling around in poverty, dependent on the government for survival because YOU soaked all the money out of the economy.

If you try to do ANYTHING that raises your public profile -- like, God forbid, run for office -- expect to be excoriated for "feigning" hard work. You never REALLY worked hard, because your path to glory was paved in gold from the day you were born thanks to luck.

You're a despicable, inhuman bastard, and you should be ashamed of yourself for not committing suicide decades ago.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 07, 2013 01:10 PM (4df7R)

50 Obama still can't get the unemployment rate below Bush's worst month.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 07, 2013 01:10 PM (NzBQO)

51
Sorry, the hobo hunting preserves will be off-limits to commoners.

Let's sneek beneath the wires and go hunting!

Posted by: Katniss Everdeen at January 07, 2013 01:11 PM (b1VIZ)

52 #48 is me, damn it.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 07, 2013 01:11 PM (SCcgT)

53


Obama still can't get the unemployment rate below Bush's worst month.


Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 07, 2013 01:10 PM (NzBQO)

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Well to be fair.... the Death Panels and the FEMA camps arent up and running yet......

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2013 01:12 PM (nELVU)

54 Thank Bob I'm in Tejas..

Posted by: eleven at January 07, 2013 01:12 PM (KXm42)

55 OT

Anybody else see the story over on Drudge about Alex Jones vs the TSA?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 07, 2013 01:12 PM (da5Wo)

56 I only went one time with Filmore. The man would get squalling drunk and piss in the spitton and slobber on the girls and they would throw us out in the horse trough.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 01:13 PM (53z96)

57 Obama still can't get the unemployment rate below Bush's worst month.




Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 07, 2013 01:10 PM (NzBQO)





RACIST!!!! Attackwatch!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2013 01:13 PM (1Jaio)

58 One fix to this toward which I've already made my decision: Don't retire.

Give your company 100% of your effort. Make them need you. They know the calibur of the lazy fuckers out there that would have to eventually replace you. I'm witness to they're work ethic on a daily basis. And if I'm noticing that, the employer is too.

Posted by: Soona at January 07, 2013 01:13 PM (1hr+f)

59 Some are hopeless. Some are hapless, Obama's constituency. Vowels have consequences.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2013 01:13 PM (BoE3Z)

60 33 Lots of people would kill for a McJob about now.

I've done quite a few McJobs...IYKWIM

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 07, 2013 01:13 PM (/zmqF)

61 I don't even like the term "public sector" and "private sector."

The language implies that there are these two modes of living, both equally valid, and we just have to find the trick and "balance" our economy between them.

That's crap.

There is no "public sector" of the economy. There is only (a) those who produce real goods and offer them to willing consumers, and (b) those who take and then dictate what goods will be made regardless of who wants them.

The government can SIMULATE economic activity, by hiring otherwise unemployed people with tax money to do various productive-esque activities (build roads, teach kids, deliver stuff, etc.), but that is not an economy. It is not economic activity. If anything, these "public sector" enterprises DISPLACE real economic activity that would otherwise be taking place with that money.

If anything, "public sector" activity ought to count as a negative, a net drain on the real economy.

Posted by: Phinn at January 07, 2013 01:14 PM (oFH2D)

62 At least the SS Administration provides a handy link to apply for disability benefits online.

Why take silly half-measures if you're going to be a ward of the state?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 07, 2013 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)

63 Anybody else see the story over on Drudge about Alex Jones vs the TSA?

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Much like stories about the Syrian Civil War, my response is "Can't they both lose?"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 07, 2013 01:15 PM (e0xKF)

64 The constant unemployment extensions are getting crazy. I am aware of at least one person who turned down a job because UE paid more (since UE pays a % of your previous salary, and the economy tanked ergo he was going to have to make more.)
UE prevents risk taking. It needs to have far more restrictions on it (like: proof you're actively searching for a job, and some form of kick off if you reject a job offer.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 07, 2013 01:15 PM (Ssth1)

65 A constitutional amendment stating that voting rights only come with proof of gainful employment. The Dems will soil themselves at the prospect of loosing their base. Of course the government employment rolls will swell by 3 million overnight.

I say if you are on the dole then you need to be out picking up garbage off the streets 3 days a week. That will motivate the unmovtivatable and the trash gets picked up.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 07, 2013 01:15 PM (S6GM3)

66 Millard Filmore was a Kennedy?

Posted by: eleven at January 07, 2013 01:15 PM (KXm42)

67 I've done quite a few McJobs...IYKWIM

Next time, lady, NO TEETH!

Posted by: The Hamburglar at January 07, 2013 01:15 PM (B/VB5)

68 The president’s top counterterrorism adviser on Wednesday called jihad a “legitimate tenet of Islam,” arguing that the term “jihadists” should not be used to describe America’s enemies.

During a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, John Brennan described violent extremists as victims of “political, economic and social forces,” but said that those plotting attacks on the United States should not be described in “religious terms.”

He repeated the administration argument that the enemy is not “terrorism,” because terrorism is a “tactic,” and not terror, because terror is a “state of mind” — though Brennan’s title, deputy national security adviser for counterterrorism and homeland security, includes the word “terrorism” in it. But then Brennan said that the word “jihad” should not be applied either.

“Nor do we describe our enemy as ‘jihadists’ or ‘Islamists’ because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one’s community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children,” Brennan said.

Is it any wonder we can't fight, much less win a War on Terror, when those running the War can not and will not even define it properly?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 07, 2013 01:15 PM (9Bj8R)

69 60 33 Lots of people would kill for a McJob about now.

I've done quite a few McJobs...IYKWIM

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You can't count those on your unemployment though, Sandy.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 07, 2013 01:16 PM (e0xKF)

70 It's not a bug. It's a Feature!

Posted by: commie leftist at January 07, 2013 01:16 PM (UhXzR)

71 Monty doom, then Ace doom...

So I'm doing some computer maintenance, cleaning out files and junk, notice a folder with 66,629 files in it... makes me go "hmmm."

So I start deleting by type. First set of files to go, add up to 6666.

Not making this up. The doom, she is a'comin.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 07, 2013 01:16 PM (BeSEI)

72
“Nor do we describe our enemy as ‘jihadists’ or ‘Islamists’ because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one’s community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children,” Brennan said.

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This is the shitheel being nominated as the next head of the CIA?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 07, 2013 01:17 PM (e0xKF)

73 One day I'm going to just walk the Earth, like Kwai Chang Caine. Helping people and having adventures and shit.

Walking's for suckers. Give me a sky-blue 1966 Oldsmobile Starfire convertible, a pair of Ray-Bans, a hot, redheaded, wisecracking personal assistant and a swinging theme song by the Billy May Orchestra and I'm there for adventure and solving crime, daddy-o.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 07, 2013 01:17 PM (zF6Iw)

74 67 I've done quite a few McJobs...IYKWIM

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Back to work, Sandy, we need more Big Mac sauce

Posted by: McDonalds employee at January 07, 2013 01:18 PM (b+8h9)

75 Let us not forget John Brennan's history lesson on how Jerusalem is really Al Quds. He knows these things because he has been in the region. I feel so much safer with an expert like this in charge of the CIA.

Posted by: no good deed at January 07, 2013 01:18 PM (mjR67)

76 Anybody else see the story over on Drudge about Alex Jones vs the TSA?

You lost me at Alex Jones.

I can only hope the story involves performing an alien autopsy on him.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 07, 2013 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)

77 Yahya ibn-Brennan has spoken.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2013 01:18 PM (BoE3Z)

78 It's sad that it would take extending unemployment benefits another 50 weeks for people to truly grasp the situation. I could imagine the unemployment rate skyrocketing if people realized they could get back on the dole.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 07, 2013 01:18 PM (NzBQO)

79 56 I only went one time with Filmore. The man would get squalling drunk and piss in the spitton and slobber on the girls and they would throw us out in the horse trough.

Good times, good times they were.

Posted by: Millard Fillmore at January 07, 2013 01:19 PM (b9Efc)

80 a hot, redheaded, wisecracking personal assistant

The monkey's paw would give you Carrot Top and a heat lamp.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 07, 2013 01:19 PM (S/WR4)

81 Definitely O/T, but wouldn't changing your witholding (and hopefully stashing the cash instead of pissing it away) accelerate LIB?

Reduced Federal revenues would push us to the debt limit even faster?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at January 07, 2013 01:19 PM (kqqGm)

82 80 a hot, redheaded, wisecracking personal assistant

The monkey's paw would give you Carrot Top and a heat lamp

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If not Carrot Top, then Kathy Griffin.

Either way, it's a definite boner-killer.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 07, 2013 01:20 PM (e0xKF)

83 Ace' long awaited post on the home invasion is up.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 01:20 PM (53z96)

84 Much like stories about the Syrian Civil War, my response is "Can't they both lose?"

I have to admit, I cracked up at Assad's new plan: an all-female battalion so the Islamist rebels get a nice side of humiliation with their pwnage.

Posted by: The Hamburglar at January 07, 2013 01:21 PM (B/VB5)

85 Definitely O/T, but wouldn't changing your witholding (and hopefully
stashing the cash instead of pissing it away) accelerate LIB?

Reduced Federal revenues would push us to the debt limit even faster?

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Good Question:

From the IRS

The United States income tax is a pay-as-you-go tax, which means
that tax must be paid as you earn or receive your income during the
year. You can either do this through withholding or by making estimated
tax payments. If you do not pay your tax through withholding, or do
not pay enough tax that way, you might also have to pay estimated
taxes. If you did not pay enough tax throughout the year, either through
withholding or by making estimated tax payments, you may have to pay
a penalty for underpayment of estimated tax. Generally, most taxpayers
will avoid this penalty if they owe less than $1,000 in tax after
subtracting their withholdings and credits, or if they paid at least
90% of the tax for the current year, or 100% of the tax shown on the
return for the prior year, whichever is smaller. There are special
rules for farmers and fishermen.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2013 01:22 PM (nELVU)

86 Walking's for suckers. Give me a sky-blue 1966 Oldsmobile Starfire convertible, >>

The Matt Helm 1965 Mercury Parklane Station Wagon with a shaggin couch and full bar.
http://tinyurl.com/a92kdja

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 07, 2013 01:22 PM (81UWZ)

87 So I'm doing some computer maintenance, cleaning
out files and junk, notice a folder with 66,629 files in it... makes me
go "hmmm."

So I start deleting by type. First set of files to go, add up to 6666.

Not making this up. The doom, she is a'comin.


Posted by: BurtTC at January 07, 2013 01:16 PM (BeSEI)


Does your word processing program still work?

Posted by: Tami at January 07, 2013 01:22 PM (X6akg)

88 You don't say. Hey, Vic, tell that story again about the time you and Millard Fillmore went to that titty bar in Raleigh.

I don't know - I like the story about the time he and Abe Lincoln and Franklin Pierce went on a bender and how four score and seven beers later, they stuck Abe with the tab.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 07, 2013 01:22 PM (zF6Iw)

89 I have to admit, I cracked up at Assad's new plan: an all-female battalion so the Islamist rebels get a nice side of humiliation with their pwnage.

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I think there are a bunch of Amazons who are out of work now that Daffy Kadaffy is busy getting sodomized by AQ members in Hell.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 07, 2013 01:23 PM (e0xKF)

90 Traveling exorcist/warrior priest. Go out and fuck up Satan. It would definitely work among the growing Hispanic community.

I'm sure you all saw the Drudge article about the Millennials' elevated sense of self-esteem. They are truly a sight to behold in the "work" place.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 07, 2013 01:24 PM (sPDBV)

91 88 You don't say. Hey, Vic, tell that story again about the time you and Millard Fillmore went to that titty bar in Raleigh.

I don't know - I like the story about the time he and Abe Lincoln and Franklin Pierce went on a bender and how four score and seven beers later, they stuck Abe with the tab.

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I think the better story would be the time they went out for a night on the town with James Buchanan. A misunderstanding from that night is how we got Log Cabin Republicans.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 07, 2013 01:25 PM (e0xKF)

92 On the White House website you can get historical tables of government outlays. This one astounded me: in 2011, the total amount of outlays for payments to individuals was $2.345 trillion dollars. That's more than the federal government's total receipts from all sources. All of our defense, infranstructure, "investment," and even our interest payments is coming out of borrowed money, while every last dollar of actual taxes collected is simply being transferred to our fellow Americans. And that means the aged (approx. $720 billion for social security, military and civil service retirement), the infirm (over $1 trillion for Medicare and Medicaid and related health programs, including SS disability), and the unemployed, unemployable, or working poor (approx. $410 billion for unemployment assistance, food stamps, and other public assistance programs). Note that these weatlh and income transfer programs as a whole are up $650 billion since 2007.

Not sure whether it was Bastiat, but some economist once talked about the problem of the seen and the "unseen." We can't demonstrate what the world would look like if $2.3 trillion a year were not transferred to unproductive people (sorry, but that's just a fact... remember we're talking about the aged, the infirm, and the unemployed, unemployable or least productive citizens), but were instead left in the hands of productive individuals to invest based on their private decisions. But I can tell you the unemployment rate wouldn't be 7.8%, and you wouldn't have 9 million people on disability and 3 million people "permanently unemployed."

Posted by: The Regular Guy at January 07, 2013 01:26 PM (qHCyt)

93 But I can tell you the unemployment rate wouldn't be 7.8%, and you wouldn't have 9 million people on disability and 3 million people "permanently unemployed."

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I think the number of the latter would go down significantly, one way or another.

Either they'd find jobs or they'd starve to death after blowing all their cash on luxuries instead of necessities.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 07, 2013 01:27 PM (e0xKF)

94 I've seen estimates that about 7% of GDP is in the "underground economy". In some eastern european countries its as high as 25%.


Posted by: @PurpAv at January 07, 2013 01:29 PM (iHs4Z)

95 Over at twitchy they are posting tweets thanking TFG for their 'free' birth control.

They'll never ever learn.


Autumn. @autumnxo21
Obamacare coming in strong and saving me my $5 co-pay on my birth control. #FoFreeee

Posted by: RWC at January 07, 2013 01:29 PM (fWAjv)

96 Either they'd find jobs or they'd starve to death after blowing all their cash on luxuries instead of necessities.


Taleb's new book, Anti-Fragility, argues that the best thing for people to make them stronger and more creative and successful is to give them more "stressors." It's arguable (although sadly not in the current political climate) that we aren't doing any poor person any favors by making it easier to remain unemployed.



Posted by: The Regular Guy at January 07, 2013 01:30 PM (qHCyt)

97 OMG they are Fing insane.

Claire Dragony@DragonC321
My paycheck is now less but on the bright side I didn't have to pay $17 for my birth control #thanksobama


Economy. How do it workz.

Posted by: RWC at January 07, 2013 01:31 PM (fWAjv)

98 Not sure whether it was Bastiat, but some economist once talked about the problem of the seen and the "unseen."

That's Adam Smith and the "invisible hand". We even have a commenter aptly named Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand.

That's probably the best nic I've ever seen.

Posted by: EC at January 07, 2013 01:32 PM (GQ8sn)

99 Over at twitchy they are posting tweets thanking TFG for their 'free' birth control.



They'll never ever learn.





Autumn. @autumnxo21

Obamacare coming in strong and saving me my $5 co-pay on my birth control. #FoFreeee

Posted by: RWC at January 07, 2013 01:29 PM (fWAjv)



Thank you lord Obama for reducing my birth control costs and my take home pay. The loss of salary will more than be made up for by the $5

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 07, 2013 01:33 PM (1Jaio)

100 Is it any wonder we can't fight, much less win a War on Terror, when those running the War can not and will not even define it properly?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

We are ripe for another attack on our soil. Will that wake up any of President Boo-Boos base? Or will it be America's/Republicans/Tea Party's fault?

Posted by: Cheri at January 07, 2013 01:33 PM (G+Wff)

101 Hey, Vic, tell that story again about the time you and Millard Fillmore went to that titty bar in Raleigh.

There are only two titty bars in Raleigh and they both suck. One is a dump, mainly for bikers and meth tweakers (BIRM). The other one is more upscale and forces you to wear things like pants.

Posted by: EC at January 07, 2013 01:34 PM (GQ8sn)

102 101
Hey, Vic, tell that story again about the time you and Millard Fillmore went to that titty bar in Raleigh.

There
are only two titty bars in Raleigh and they both suck. One is a dump,
mainly for bikers and meth tweakers (BIRM). The other one is more
upscale and forces you to wear things like pants.


Posted by: EC at January 07, 2013 01:34 PM (GQ8sn)

Where are the middle class titty-bars?!?! Further evidence of the disappearing middle class!!!

Posted by: Long Island at January 07, 2013 01:40 PM (hl8SI)

103 I'm sure you all saw the Drudge article about the Millennials' elevated sense of self-esteem. They are truly a sight to behold in the "work" place.

It wouldn't be such a big problem if those Millennials weren't also backed up by upper management that seems to think it's 'diverse' to prop them up. If you're in the middle between them, you end up eating a yard of sh*t in the process...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 07, 2013 01:41 PM (PMGbu)

104 dat's alright, We need more people feed up to be a part of the national secuirty civilian force ,larger than the army.

Posted by: ette at January 07, 2013 01:46 PM (nqBYe)

105 Because as we knowz, that's is how free societies live!

Posted by: ette at January 07, 2013 01:46 PM (nqBYe)

106 What is funny is I have been to titty bars in Raleigh right across the street from NCState. We used to hit those every time we made a trip up there on buisness.


Yes, they were scuzzy joints but on one occassion when we were there for a softball tournament we were playing in and one of the guys was going to get married we took him to one for a bachelor Party.

The wives decided to go with us.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 01:47 PM (53z96)

107 You know, we could've had Romney in...

And for those people who still insist there would have been no difference, just look at the amount of propaganda leverage Obama has from his reelection. His defeat, regardless of what anyone else did, would've been symbolic no matter the spin.

Just a warning for next time people think it's a good idea to sit out "on principle" when the opponent is such a clear Marxist shithead like Obama...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 07, 2013 01:49 PM (Y5I9o)

108 Man, it is hard not to feel depressed these days. Please Lord, give more Americans strength to start making things right again.

Posted by: eureka! at January 07, 2013 01:51 PM (HPRku)

109 There are only two titty bars in Raleigh and they both suck. One is a dump, mainly for bikers and meth tweakers (BIRM). The other one is more upscale and forces you to wear things like pants.

And don't think that didn't put a crimp in Ben Franklin's style. . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 07, 2013 01:53 PM (zF6Iw)

110 Big Bird

Posted by: forest at January 07, 2013 01:54 PM (L7wZc)

111 John Brennan is a fucking asshole from way back.

Speaking in 2010 from a Michelle Malken column

It gets worse: Brennan then went on to decry the "ignorant feelings" of Americans outraged at the jihadi attacks on American soil. And then he told Shahin and the audience of Muslim students that he "was very concerned after the attack in Fort Hood as well as the December 25 attack that all of sudden there were people who went back into this fearful position that lashed out not thinking through what was reasonable and appropriate."

Posted by: madamex at January 07, 2013 01:57 PM (+kvQd)

112 War is deception. I've said it before!

“Nor do we describe our enemy as ‘jihadists’ or
‘Islamists’ because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of
Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one’s community, and there is
nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men,
women and children,” Brennan said.



Is it any wonder we can't fight, much less win a War on Terror,
when those running the War can not and will not even define it properly?


Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 07, 2013 01:15 PM (9Bj8R)

Posted by: The Prophet Muhammed at January 07, 2013 01:59 PM (cv5Iw)

113 "Unfortunately, the chose the latter."
That's why I've always been against the right to vote.

Posted by: Gerry at January 07, 2013 02:01 PM (PMBtG)

114 What is funny is I have been to titty bars in Raleigh right across the
street from NCState. We used to hit those every time we made a trip up
there on buisness.


Where was that?

Was that the old pr0n theater that later turned into a McDonald's?

Posted by: EC at January 07, 2013 02:05 PM (GQ8sn)

115 108 Man, it is hard not to feel depressed these days. Please Lord, give more Americans strength to start making things right again.
Posted by: eureka! at January 07, 2013 01:51 PM (HPRku)



It's very difficult. There is just so little optimism. I have to laugh at all the little proglatarians, though. Their dosages of hopium are beyond that tested by medical science.

I'll join you in that prayer. I fear it's going to take a couple hundred novenas, to have any effect.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at January 07, 2013 02:07 PM (b/fXj)

116 Unfortunately the GA Castle Doctrine law makes no provision for shielding from civil suit.

http://is.gd/K4vR1Q


Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 02:12 PM (53z96)

117 Damn twice wrong thread

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 02:12 PM (53z96)

118 From the article: "That's not good for the economy."

Not good for the unemployed human beings either.

As for UE it's a ticket to ride. I know lots of people in SoCal who say "I'm not taking that gig next week because it's only a day and will wreck my unemployment" or if they get laid off, "I'll take a couple months on UE and then start looking," so it enables everyone to work part time, which is great for the unions (to placate the unemployed members) and the liberal studio execs, for example, who love having a part time work forced subsidized by the taxpayers so they can be available when needed.

Posted by: PJ at January 07, 2013 02:14 PM (ZWaLo)

119
Lots of people would kill for a McRib about now. FIFY

Posted by: dfbaskwill at January 07, 2013 02:19 PM (71LDo)

120 Was that the old pr0n theater that later turned into a McDonald's?


Posted by: EC at January 07, 2013 02:05 PM (GQ8sn)

NO they were not theaters, they were real live strip joints right across the street from NC State on Western Blvd.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 02:21 PM (53z96)

121 The people need to be put on WELFARE -- not unemployment insurance. Sorry.

Posted by: john b at January 07, 2013 02:43 PM (Jx060)

122 Obama's multifaceted plan:

1. People unemployed permanently
2. Drop off rolls
3. unemployment rate drops because less people in the workforce
4. WIN!

1. People unemployed permanently
2. Go on welfare permanently
3. Democrat voters for life
4. WIN!

Posted by: shibumi at January 07, 2013 02:51 PM (z63Tr)

123 Its Hayek vs. Keynes.... and even though EVERY measure shows that Hayek was wrong.... as he advocates MORE Government spending... that is the one the Government chooses...

We should no longer be talking about UNEMPLOYMENT as those numbers have been "renormed" (if you measured unemployment the way they did during the depresion, unemployment is WORSE)...

We need to talk about how many are EMPLOYED.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 07, 2013 03:08 PM (lZBBB)

124
Its Hayek vs. Keynes.... and even though EVERY measure shows that Hayek
was wrong.... as he advocates MORE Government spending... that is the
one the Government chooses...



You mean Keynes don't you?

Posted by: EC at January 07, 2013 03:09 PM (GQ8sn)

125 NO they were not theaters, they were real live strip joints right across the street from NC State on Western Blvd.

I'm trying to picture where they were. The only place that could have them would be Mission Valley. Was that where they were?

Posted by: EC at January 07, 2013 03:10 PM (GQ8sn)

126 It's been 14 months for me. I'm glad I don't have kids.

Posted by: dc at January 07, 2013 03:29 PM (UdPlZ)

127 OK, I just took a look at Google Maps, it wasn't Western Blbd, it was Hillsborough street across from the school up from before the turn to go to Charlie Goodnights.


But neither one of the two joints we used to hit are there anymore. This has been a long time ago.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 03:31 PM (53z96)

128
OK, I just took a look at Google Maps, it wasn't Western Blbd, it was
Hillsborough street across from the school up from before the turn to go
to Charlie Goodnights.


Ok, somewhere between the pipe shop at the turn and the school?

Posted by: EC at January 07, 2013 03:35 PM (GQ8sn)

129 I don't remember a pipe shop. All I remember is two seedy joints on the side of the street away from the school. Like I said though, it has been a long time since then so my memory is sketchy.

Posted by: Vic at January 07, 2013 04:05 PM (53z96)

130 The Dow is still doing well capitalists are doing very well. Workers, well I let the socialistas worry about them. The Dow doubled under Obama, Wall Street loves him, Main Street..... well his approval rating is pretty good Gallup says 54% today. Real clear Politics gives an average of 53%

Posted by: occam at January 07, 2013 04:37 PM (4+lE0)

131 Maybe 3 million more families with a stay at home mom or dad now.

Posted by: occam at January 07, 2013 04:38 PM (cWOlF)






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