Good Food, Crappy Service: A Growing Trend [CharlieBrown'sDildo]

I don’t know whether it is some sort of über-hip response to conventional expectations, or maybe it’s the prevalence of young chefs who know how to cook but don’t have the management experience to crack the whip with the help, but too many restaurants with solid, interesting kitchens and bars have lousy service. Oh, the waiters are unique in their own ways…with a fascinating collection of tattoos, piercings, odd haircuts, ripped shirts, pants around their thighs, pendulous breasts untethered by anything so pedestrian as a bra, ultra-cool facial hair (if they actually have enough testosterone to grow it), and many other irritating affectations that make me want to drag them outside and beat them.

But the worst by far is the exaggerated disinterest in the job at hand. Look, I know that you are a playwright (or an actor or a performance artist) and not a waiter, but in the interest of paying the rent, why don’t you actually pay attention to the work for which your employer and I are paying you.

These two restaurants are in New York City, but the experience is common to pretty much every metropolitan area in the country.


The Meatball Shop
is a great place on the Lower East Side (otherwise known as hipster heaven) for a quick meal, or a snack and an excellent beer. But be prepared to tolerate some profoundly bored waiters. And we were almost in our seats when the greeter rushed over and gave our table to her just-arrived friends. Oh, here is a tip for our waiter: silverware is almost always a good idea.

The Redhead is an East Village pub with first-rate Southern influenced food, and some innovative cocktails that wowed the table. But you know what would have made the very good meal even better? Getting all the drinks we ordered instead of being served the beer that came out of the closest tap. And that oldie-but-goodie advice about silverware? It’s just as true above Houston as below.

These two restaurants were worth the visit, especially because we were in the neighborhood. But please, when you eat at the equivalent in your neck of the woods, make the tip appropriate to the level of service you receive, and not a reflexive gesture. Maybe that budding actor needs some feedback so that in the unlikely event that he doesn’t make it big in the next off-off-Broadway production of Waiting For Godot, he has something to fall back on that he does well.

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Comments

1 Heh. I carry fender washers just in case the service demands such.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 05:38 PM (b1VIZ)

2 To hell with that. Have you priced fender washers lately?

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 05:40 PM (qaVK+)

3 Almost as bad as a Gibson washer.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 05:41 PM (qaVK+)

4 Why do I not give a fuck if NYC restaurants have bad service. NYer's deserve bad service. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 05:41 PM (GcWBz)

5 The Gibson dryers aren't so bad, though.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 05:41 PM (qaVK+)

6 The true cost of arugula, CBD.

Posted by: Lauren at January 06, 2013 05:42 PM (wsGWu)

7 Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 05:41 PM (GcWBz)

Can't argue with that point, but when I go to a restaurant in NYC, must I be plagued with these toads?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 05:42 PM (GsoHv)

8 tattoos, piercings, odd haircuts, ripped shirts, pants around their
thighs, pendulous breasts untethered by anything so pedestrian as a bra,
ultra-cool facial hair

I'm sorry, was this all on the same server? Because that would be so NYC.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 05:42 PM (qaVK+)

9 OT: Does anyone know of any games based on the whole "man card" joke?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 06, 2013 05:45 PM (o1kXv)

10 I don't want to make a sweeping generalization, but unfortunately will--the charge that our trendy hipster douchebag generation has a tad of the sociopath in their general makeup should have enough recognizable truth to hit home. The more trendy and slightly above average, the more nihilistic. It's like we decided to become the upper classes of Haiti--dog eat dog.

They are so convinced in their unique talents, so catered to, and so sure they are on the side of the angels that they appear as if other people are not really people to them--subspecies, as it were.

Posted by: G. at January 06, 2013 05:45 PM (PeX8d)

11 we sometimes go out with a female friend who exclaims constantly that she tips 20%....... always....regardless of the level of service.
She also frequently complains in the car after a meal about the level of service she received.

Posted by: VIA, on the tiny keyboard at January 06, 2013 05:47 PM (8jDEF)

12 Can't argue with that point, but when I go to a restaurant in NYC, must I be plagued with these toads?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 05:42 PM (GsoHv)


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Absolutely. It's part of that shithole's ambience.


Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 05:48 PM (GcWBz)

13 How about: Crappy food, great service. My dining experience at Hooter's.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 05:50 PM (b1VIZ)

14 Well here's the thing: your typical moron is a short-tipper to start with, so probably thinks 10 or 15 per cent is sending a good message. You leave 20 per cent in NYC, and they're going to laugh at your back as you leave. If you short them, (1)how will they even know? and (b)they'll think it's because you're an outlander. These people don't live in the same economy as you. You can't communicate with them using money.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 05:50 PM (qaVK+)

15 I ate at the "Your Last Meal" Grill. Once.

Posted by: Zombie Patron at January 06, 2013 05:50 PM (BVkEs)

16 How about: Crappy food, great service. My dining experience at Hooter's.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 05:50 PM (b1VIZ)


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Hooter's has food?

Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 05:51 PM (GcWBz)

17 Hooter's has food?

Posted by: Soona
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Yes but only nascar beer.

Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 05:52 PM (VMcEw)

18 When your server whips out his/her smartphone for a quick check, the only tip they're getting is balls deep.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 05:53 PM (w3+gB)

19 . . . pendulous breasts untethered by anything so pedestrian as a bra . . .

Go on.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2013 05:53 PM (BAS5M)

20 Why I only ate in Chinatown in NYC. No 'interesting' wait staff trying to act like well stoners with terminal ennui.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 05:53 PM (HXcdb)

21 Hooter's has food?

Yes, but it's apparently in poor taste to order a milkshake and then motorboat the waitress.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 06, 2013 05:53 PM (o1kXv)

22 Hooter's has food?


Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 05:51 PM

Sure, beer is a grain and according to the food pyramid grains are the most important.

Posted by: Beto at January 06, 2013 05:54 PM (BAnPT)

23 It all shows daily drip by drip the indisputable evidence that today’s liberalism is truly a dangerous mental disorder. It’s no longer a political persuasion, rather a vicious lazy way of life cult. An infectious blind idiocy promoted with squalling child like credence that needs to sicken all to survive. A fair analogy that defines socialism and like a cancer, only one solution to survive it.

Posted by: FURPC at January 06, 2013 05:55 PM (0ImZM)

24 O/T -- But just in case you're still "decluttering" today after Christmas/New Years, don't throw away your Christmas cards. St. Jude's uses them to help fund their "ranch" for sick kids. They take all-occasion cards, as well. Details here: http://bit.ly/VMIJWk

Posted by: RushBabe at January 06, 2013 05:55 PM (tQHzJ)

25 Damn! Now I'm hungry for Hooter's wings.

Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 05:55 PM (GcWBz)

26 Nose rings- cant stand 'em.


I keep thinking the waiter needs a tissue- for the one that's hanging right over my food.

Jose jewelry should equal automatic halving of tip

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 06, 2013 05:56 PM (x1tp+)

27 Good Food, Crappy Service: A Growing Trend

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: Guy Fieri at January 06, 2013 05:56 PM (tEGWR)

28 When someone hands me that paper bag thru the window, I want a burger and fries and a STRAW dammit for my drink.



I can always dine in someone else's parking lot.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 05:56 PM (8sCoq)

29 I prefer the really shitty tip with a note commenting on their shitting service. At the very least, it ruins their evening.

Also there's no problem in lying to the manager..."I was going to spend $100 on drinks bu your server was so rude I decided we'd go to (insert nearby place here) instead"

Posted by: taylork at January 06, 2013 05:57 PM (ppNDn)

30 NOSE for Pete's sake

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 06, 2013 05:57 PM (x1tp+)

31 Close by, a Twin Peaks just opened in the same mega-plex strip center as a long standing Hooters. Boobie wars!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2013 05:57 PM (BAS5M)

32 Speaking of fender washers. My neighbor's punk son took a beating one night and fender washers were used. Nobody knew anything about them until he sneezed and they rolled out of his nose. During a sponge bath.

Posted by: Ends With Prepositions And Fists at January 06, 2013 05:57 PM (I4o0Z)

33 I don't care how good the food is, if the service sucks I will not be back.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (GrtrJ)

34 Also there's no problem in lying to the manager..."I was going to spend $100 on drinks bu your server was so rude I decided we'd go to (insert nearby place here) instead"
Posted by: taylork at January 06, 2013 05:57 PM (ppNDn)

if you are going to do that correctly, you get up, tell the manager, leave, go to his arch-enemy around the corner then you call from the house phone of his arch-enemy and let him know you are sitting down to eat dinner and spend all your filthy lucre. He will recognize the phone number.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

35 Close by, a Twin Peaks just opened in the same mega-plex strip center as a long standing Hooters. Boobie wars!
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2013 05:57 PM (BAS5M)


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You said these two places were in a strip mall........?

Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (GcWBz)

36 Well, whatever indisputable evidence of today's liberalism and mental disorders it may be, it's the same shitty service I got there in 1970. So yesterday's liberalism is in the mix too.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (qaVK+)

37 And that oldie-but-goodie advice about silverware? It’s just as true above Houston as below.

Screw it, just stick with a Danny Meyer restaurant (any of them) and you'll be fine. Life's too short to try

Posted by: Guy Fieri at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (tEGWR)

38 You can also always give a shitty tip and write " This 1%er thinks you should check your attitude at the door and serve me properly." It doesn't matter if you;re a 1%er or not, but it will piss them off more.

Posted by: taylork at January 06, 2013 06:00 PM (ppNDn)

39 Speaking of New Yorkers and crappy service ....Eliot Spitzer is ending his job on Current TV.

A quote from the whore monger, "“I love and always have loved policy issues and trying to have an impact
on the issues that are out there,” he said. “I cherish my years in
government. I have loved my participation at CNN, at Current; writing;
teaching. Where I will go next, I will have to sort out.”

The asshole has no shame.

Posted by: Long Island at January 06, 2013 06:01 PM (hl8SI)

40 The mini-tip is always a great way to show displeasure.

My personal fave is a pissy little splash of change under 20 cents.

also, leave them a note if possible.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:01 PM (G9qZk)

41 I don't care how good the food is, if the service sucks I will not be back.
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (GrtrJ)


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I have made some exceptions to that rule. Especially if it involves BBQ.

Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 06:01 PM (GcWBz)

42 Y5, yeah calling from the competition would really chaff the other guy's ball sack. And the restaraunt you calling from would make sure you got great service.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:02 PM (HXcdb)

43 > “I cherish my years in

government. I have loved my participation at CNN, at Current; writing;

teaching. Where I will go next, I will have to sort out.”


mop n bucket man at all night peep show

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 06:02 PM (8sCoq)

44 You can always jump up screaming A RAT! A RAT!

Posted by: Beto at January 06, 2013 06:03 PM (BAnPT)

45 Jose Jewelry?
Is that different than Hose B Jewelry?

Posted by: dodging bullets in Chicago at January 06, 2013 06:03 PM (wx8cF)

46 City with the best waitstaff in my experience = Chicago. High percentage of professional waitstaff.

Rudest waitstaff (US) = Boston. I assume the college student factor combined with the obnoxious Bostonian factor

Rudest waitstaff (int'l) = France

Most inept waitstaff = Orem/Provo and Park City off-season. Fortunately, Salt Lake pulls a fairly decent group of servers.

In fairness to the Orem/Provo kids, the people here will not pay for service. They want cheap food, fast service, and kid-friendly. Needless to say, we tend to drive north for good meals.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 06:04 PM (5H6zj)

47 Beto, from Fawlty Towers
http://youtu.be/RV8i3oLmPfk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:04 PM (HXcdb)

48 In general waiters/waitresses annoy the fuck out of me. You bring a plate of food from the kitchen to a table. That's it. That's your contribution to the world. You're not special. You're not unique. Most understand this. But some, don't. These are the douches who think a career of bringing food to the table is some kind of higher calling in life.

** I say this as someone who waited tables in high school and college **

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 06:05 PM (HDgX3)

49 Yeah, I lived in LA for about 5 years... no one is a waiter, everyone is an aspiring actor or playwrite...

Moved to Dallas, the service blows me away, as well as anyone who visits from the Northeast or Westcoast

Posted by: phreshone at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (0SXI6)

50 10
I don't want to make a sweeping generalization, but unfortunately
will--the charge that our trendy hipster douchebag generation has a tad
of the sociopath in their general makeup
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Lots of low-talkers in this generation, too. Passive-aggressive behavior, imho.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (5H6zj)

51 Ah yes... The "hospitality" industry. You'll find disinterested service everywhere, even on the strip in Las Vegas. Hotels, restaurants, spas, valet, bell desk--you might get great service from these, and then, maybe not.

The Cosmopolitan was positively obsequious to guests during its first six months of operation, then later opted for "just the wrong amount of wrong" on drink service on the casino floor, room cleaning, etc.

Aria had a very long line at check-in for two solid days (January 3-5); Planet Ho allowed perhaps the smelliest homeless guy in the world to wander around the Earl of Sandwich--his stink lingered long after he had shuffled off, rendering the Earl's otherwise great sandwiches inedible.

And there seems to be a growing trend for casinos to allow children on the gaming floor. I've seen kids sitting on the floor leaning against a wall near the keno lounge at 11pm, no doubt waiting for mom dad to hit that mega-keno progressive so they all could eat and get a room to sleep in. I've seen three teenagers walking across Aria's casino floor carrying four-foot-long skateboards; Bellagio is a virtual Disneyland of kids, with what often seems like a 1-to-1 ratio of gamblers to children. Normally, I don't have anything against kids, but come on, parents! I don't bring hookers and blow to ride in the Pirates of the Caribbean boat with me (although the auto-pic I could get in the front seat of the Grizzly River Run makes that very tempting); stop bringing your snotnosed spawn to Vegas.

I realize I've drifted a bit afield from restaurant grousing, but hospitality is hospitality, and the current generation filling the lower end of jobs is unfamiliar with the word; most of the excellent service I've seen lately has come from older people.

Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (VcDCJ)

52 yeah calling from the competition would really chaff the other guy's ball sack. And the restaraunt you calling from would make sure you got great service.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:02 PM (HXcdb)

you are right on both points.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (Z9EHQ)

53 Y-not,

I'm pretty sure Chinese waitstaff in Hong Kong can give the French a run for their money in the rudeness dept.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (G9qZk)

54 Funny you should post about food. Fox just had some duochebag on extolling the virtues of the new food regulations that were passed during the lame duck session when the Dems were exiting. I ripped it to shreds this morning along with all the government lies that claimed it was needed. The Fox talking heads did everything but suck his dick on air. Has Fox became NBC while we were not looking? We already have > 20% inflation on food, what more do they want?



As for waiters in NYC I am not surprised that the service is shit. Strossel did a special a few weeks ago and he interviewed a manager of a restaurant in NYC. The manager said he can not hire waiters and keep them even as they were making about $150 - $200 per day in salary and tips STARTING.



For that you can blame all the liberal payments for NOT working.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (53z96)

55 I thought Jose jewelry was from some hip new designer!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (UTq/I)

56 Posted by: Guy Fieri at January 06, 2013 05:59 PM (tEGWR)

We got crap service at Blue Smoke...a Danny Meyer joint.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:08 PM (GsoHv)

57 Perhaps you should trademark that, Jose Jewelry. Profit!!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:08 PM (HXcdb)

58 And there seems to be a growing trend for casinos to allow children on
the gaming floor.

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That's hard to believe since it is strictly forbidden for anyone under 21 to be in the gaming area and management follows shit like that to the letter since fines are high for breaking the law.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (HDgX3)

59 Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (53z96)

We have the safest food in the world. Why they insist upon creating more regulation and not just trying to enforce the old, simple stuff is textbook liberalism.

Is that a new hash?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (GsoHv)

60 Jose Jewelry

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You spelled Joos wrong?

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (BVkEs)

61 We got crap service at Blue Smoke...a Danny Meyer joint.

Get out! I love that place. Always got great service there...and they have Pappy Van Winkle's 23 year old reserve.

Wow.

Please tell me Home Restaurant is still good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (tEGWR)

62 I'm pretty sure Chinese waitstaff in Hong Kong can give the French a run for their money in the rudeness dept.
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I don't doubt it. The only time I've had good service in a Chinese restaurant in the US is when I've been dining with a Chinese-speaking person.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 06:10 PM (5H6zj)

63 The special flavor comes from the spit (spit if you're lucky) these little "special snowflake" dips**ts add to sauce.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 06, 2013 06:11 PM (Vk2pI)

64 Please tell me Home Restaurant is still good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (tEGWR)Never been. But my in-laws like it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:12 PM (GsoHv)

65 Is that a new hash?

\Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (GsoHv)



Yeah, it changed on its own last week.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:12 PM (53z96)

66

So you're saying that NYC waitstaff aspire to Paris waitstaff standards?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 06:12 PM (MBqvE)

67 I have found that Greek restaurants uniformly have great service.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 06:12 PM (QupBk)

68 Here in Bristol County MA, the food and service at casual dining restaurants is usually very good. The service is almost always good, and when it's not, there's usually an apparent reason.

I tip 20% unless something sucks about the service. So, I almost always tip 20%.

Then again, even with my whole family out, we never spend as much as $60 for dinner so it's not like I'm throwing much money around.

Posted by: Truman North at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (I2LwF)

69 It's good to have worked at a restaurant in your lifetime. I was a bus "boy" at an all-you-can-eat seafood restaurant. Lost thirty pounds in a summer. But anyway I think it helps you distinguish between bad service that's the waiter's fault and bad service that's the kitchen's or management's fault.

The folks I rarely like are the hostesses. It's rare that they do a good job and not unusual for them to manage to irritate me in my 20 second contact with them.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (5H6zj)

70 Jose Jewelry?

You know you're gonna look awfully silly with that bracelet sticking up your ass.

Posted by: High Plains Drifter at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (BAS5M)

71 I'd rather see Joos in jewelry than NOSE baubles that make me think the waiter has a booger in transit.


Autocorrect dammit!

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (x1tp+)

72
I always try to visualize what it would be like to have sex with my waitress. That's how I evaluate and tip. That may sound shallow, sexist and vulgar, but it makes the wait for the meal full of fantasy projection. Waiters, not so much.

I was at a restaurant for lunch a few months ago, and one of the waitresses was so built and so hot, that it really made the meal go fast, and I really don'tremember how good the food was.

Hooters is full of young girls that could be my daughter. That's a big turn-off. I was at a Hooters in Grand Rapids years ago, and one of my "co-workers" was flirting with this girl that could have been his daughter. That's just plain sick.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (Md8Uo)

73 The manager said he can not hire waiters and keep
them even as they were making about $150 - $200 per day in salary and
tips STARTING.



Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:07 PM (53z96)

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$150/200 a day for NYC? Meh. I made $100-150 a night when I bar-tended in college on a good night. And this was 15 years ago in a place with 1/2 the cost of living of NYC.
Assuming you work 5 days a week that's $40-50K a year. Again, meh.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (HDgX3)

74 Seriously, I've never been in one where the owner isn't all Welcome my friend!, what can I get for yooo?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (QupBk)

75 There's nothing new in that food safety law. It's the same one we talked about almost two years ago. Hizzoner put off implementation until after the election.

According to their own figures, there were 14 deaths from food illness last year. The rules (every farmer must submit a safety plan for govt approval) will cost each producer thousands. And it doesn't touch imported food, which has twice the death toll. Same old, same old.

And when you boil it down, the business end of the law is all stuff that county and state inspectors ought to be doing anyway, or things already in the USDA bailiwick. They just decided not to do their job until they got a shitload more power.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (qaVK+)

76 "These two restaurants are in New York City"

I have a longstanding and visceral hatred for NYC and its inhabitants, so learning that people who live there are having to endure shitty restaurant service is just distilled schadenfreude for me.

With luck they'll get food poisoning too.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (gqT4g)

77 The wait staff I had the times I had in Hong Kong were the best I have ever had anywhere in the world.



The wait staff we have in the little hick town near here is damn good too because the know they are working for tips.


I have had more problems with customers ruing my dining experience than wait staff. Such as a woman who changed her baby's diaper on the table next to me while I was eating.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (53z96)

78 Posted by: Truman North at January 06, 2013 06:13 PM (I2LwF)

But where the fuck is the pride in doing something well? And how come your casual dining joints in Bristol County MA can get better waiters than NYC?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:15 PM (GsoHv)

79 OTOH, hitting the fast food drive thru results in. 100% fucked up order rate. It's gotten to the point that when they ask me what I want, I tell them, "surprise me."

Posted by: Truman North at January 06, 2013 06:15 PM (I2LwF)

80 Never been. But my in-laws like it.

Wife used to work there and then at Union Square Cafe back in the day....back when Danny Meyer personally ran everything.

I've never had a bad experience in any of his places.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (tEGWR)

81 OTOH, hitting the fast food drive thru results in. 100% fucked up order rate.

Burger King? They're notorious.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (QupBk)

82 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 06:14 PM (HDgX3)



Bar tenders typically make a lot more in tips than table waiters and that was starting salary.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (53z96)

83 The not bringing silverware thing happens to me quite frequently, to the point that I'm wondering if it's not a matter of there not being enough staff to keep up with washing dishes and flatware. If not, it's just bizarre.


My most recent pet peeve is the greeter attempting to seat me at the bar even when I ask for a table. I appreciate that I'm eating alone, I appreciate that you're busy, I will quite happily take the tiny little table in the corner that gets hit by the door to the kitchen but do not fucking say oh you'll like the bar better. No. No, I fucking won't. I'll be in and out fairly quickly, I'm a very easy customer and I'm a very good tipper. If I notice that it's very crowded, then I'll ask for the bar. But if not? Do not try seating me there.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (Gk3SS)

84 It's all right Jade Sea. Honest mistakes are fun sometimes. Well done.

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (BVkEs)

85 Charlie Brown...that is some good writing right there, I particularly liked:

pendulous breasts untethered by anything so pedestrian as a bra

Couldn't agree more with the entire take, a good window into current modern culture, which stinks worse and worse, bunch of wannabe ex-cons.

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (cSD32)

86 Big D by the Skins!

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 06:17 PM (5H6zj)

87
My vote for worst service by the friendliest waitstaff in the world goes to:
Every restaurant in the Republic of the Philippines.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 06:18 PM (b1VIZ)

88 Okay, that was huge!

Posted by: Ends With Prepositions And Fists at January 06, 2013 06:18 PM (I4o0Z)

89 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2013 06:16 PM (tEGWR)

Union Square Cafe is the best bar dining in NYC. Best food/bartender combination...hands down.

He knows what he is doing, but Blue Smoke is out of control for some reason. Weird.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:18 PM (GsoHv)

90 I've had some really good service from counter-culture waitstaff here in Utah, but it may just be that they're so out-numbered they don't feel so over-confident.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (5H6zj)

91 Isn't the Meatball Shop owned by those two trustafarians in that credit card commercial?

Posted by: . at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (Q8Wa9)

92 I wonder though if "bad service" is the kind of thing that's always been there but as people get older they notice it more. "These damn kids today with their rock and roll music!!" type of thing. Every generation thinks the next one is the worst one ever.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 06:19 PM (HDgX3)

93 I'm going to say it again for those of you too enraged to read. 1970. Same thing.


Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 06:20 PM (qaVK+)

94 In San Diego, all the "foodies" blame the shitty service on the beachy attitude of the people here. Interesting to see it's happening in the North East too.

Posted by: keena at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (JpqtI)

95 I have found that Greek restaurants uniformly have great service.
..............
Someone mentioned the great service in Chicago.. I gotta agree..

EXCEPT for waiters in Greek restaurants! Usually they are older Greek men and they all have the same peevish attitude.. like you are imposing on them and would you please hurry up and decide between the fucking leg of lamb and the souvlaki!

Now, if you are talking about the Greek-owned family restaurants with a 10 page menu of all kinds of food, then I will agree. Those make up half the restaurants in the Chicago area.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (UTq/I)

96 It all shows daily drip by drip the indisputable evidence that today’s liberalism is truly a dangerous mental disorder. It’s no longer a political persuasion, rather a vicious lazy way of life cult. An infectious blind idiocy promoted with squalling child like credence that needs to sicken all to survive. A fair analogy that defines socialism and like a cancer, only one solution to survive it.


Kill the host?

Posted by: Infidel at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (bzOLE)

97 My most recent pet peeve is the greeter attempting to seat me at the bar even when I ask for a table.
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When I was younger, I'd take the table given to me. Now I routinely ask for a different one.

Huge pet peeve is for a hostess (ahem) to seat lousy tables first in a not full restaurant or to seat everyone in one section. I understand about sections, but I do not want to listen to the other diners' conversations.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (5H6zj)

98 I prefer my wait staff to leave me alone unless I look at them or lift a knuckle bone. Then I want them right over. What I hate is when your waiter comes through and doesn't even look at all their tables to see if someone wants something. It's so simple to avoid pissing off your customer.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (QupBk)

99 Where I live, the service is usually great.

The one thing that bugs me here is the waiter/ress who decides they're gonna be your new best buddy, coming by every five seconds asking you if the food is great.

It's annoying as hell. Just serve me my food and watch to see if I need more water or another drink. I don't need a new best friend.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (G9qZk)

100
Having eaten many meals in Paris, I have to say that the waiters, etc. are not all the penultimate rude people typically described.

Younger people that are waiters/waitresses are almost always polite and friendly. It's the older people that are rather aloof and appearing rude. Also, while it is customary to order drinks first in an American restaurant, when you do that in Paris, it ticks off the waiters because they think you are just there to drink and not order a meal.
I've eaten a couple of times at this little restaurant in the Latin Quarter in Paris, and because it is family owned, the help really knock themselves out to give good service. One of the first times I had a restaurant meal in Paris was at another small restaurant, where two absolutely beautiful women were doing the table waiting, and they were both very friendly and pleasant.

The small family owned restaurants usually have pretty good servive, even if they don't have tipping in Paris.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 06:22 PM (Md8Uo)

101 "I'm pretty sure Chinese waitstaff in Hong Kong can give the French a run for their money in the rudeness dept.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:06 PM (G9qZk)"

The Chinese service industry is a little odd. In most of mainland China, apparently being extremely rude and brusque is "proper" and expected behavior for wait staff, salespeople, and so on. I have no idea why this is...maybe it dates back to government officials during the Ming dynasty or something.

However, before the Brits had the wonderful idea of turning Hong Kong over to the ChiComs, HK had some of the best service in the entire world. Once mainland Chinese flooded the place after the turnover, that award-winning service industry tanked as soon as the "properly rude" mainlanders started taking over those jobs.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (mMtFx)

102 There used to be a web site called bitter waitress dot com. Waitresses from all over the country told horror stories about bad tips and crappy customers.


Especially popular were the ones about movie stars or other rich people who would come in with a huge crowd run up a huge bill then stiff them with little or no tip.


That's why they are no longer around. One of those "rich people" sued them.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (53z96)

103 Hisute ladies and boy men with gauges and annoying attitude? And you wonder why I eat at home more.

Posted by: EBL at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (09GRP)

104 With luck they'll get food poisoning too.

Posted by: torquewrench at January

really?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 06:25 PM (Z9EHQ)

105 I want to be a waiter when I retire, btw. Before I went to college, I was always in the food trade, but kitchen, not wait staff.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (QupBk)

106 I'm pretty sure Chinese waitstaff in Hong Kong can give the French a run for their money in the rudeness dept.
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I don't doubt it. The only time I've had good service in a Chinese restaurant in the US is when I've been dining with a Chinese-speaking person.
Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 06:10 PM (5H6zj)








There used to be a high-end Chinese place here that really excelled in their service along with their food. First class, in both instances. Consistently award-winning. Owner was my landlord for a couple of years, but I still got good service well before I rented from him.

About a year after I moved out of the apartment he owned, he and his wife got busted for human trafficking and a bunch of other nefarious shit, running Chinese illegals through the restaurant. Wife skipped town back to HK one step ahead of the Feds, but they caught him at the airport with a bunch of cash and a false passport.

Just goes to show that even criminals are smart enough to provide good service, even if NYC hipsters aren't.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (MBqvE)

107 However, before the Brits had the wonderful idea of
turning Hong Kong over to the ChiComs, HK had some of the best service
in the entire world. Once mainland Chinese flooded the place after the
turnover, that award-winning service industry tanked as soon as the
"properly rude" mainlanders started taking over those jobs.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (mMtFx)


Maybe that's why it was good the times I was there. It was still British when I was there. Singapore was good too.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:26 PM (53z96)

108 @100
The other nice thing about eating in Paris or France in general, is that the children are extremely well behaved. None are running around going apeshit in the restaurant and no parents are begging them to do anything. I also like that the people are not screamingly loud and there is not music blasting so you have to yell to talk to your friends. Yes, there are some wonderful things about France. Think that covered them all!

Posted by: keena at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (JpqtI)

109 OT: Finally saw Django. Fun movie, worth a watch. Definitely has some laughs and some great over-the-top gore (mostly just massive sprays of blood and bodies flying from bullet wounds). Oh, and gratuitous use of red blood on white things e.g. blood on white flowers, blood on white linens, and, of course, blood on white people.

Definitely did not strike me as particularly racist, although Tarantino's horrible Southern accent was offensive to my ears. Worst progtard shit was actually a preview with Jeremy Renner using all manner of big scary guns on old women. Fuck Jeremy Renner.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (qw+yV)

110 @ 101

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at January 06, 2013 06:24 PM (mMtFx)



A Good Ming is Hard to Find

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:28 PM (G9qZk)

111 re: #58

Moo Moo: I know. I recall me and a buddy of mine were going on leave (a bazillion years ago) from A school in the Navy, and stopped in Vegas. I was legal, he was a year too young (which I didn't know). He put a quarter in a machine as we were walking to a restuarant in some casino and of course hit a hand-pay, and jeebuz! security was on him like white on rice. Only my constant insistence that I had hit the hand-pay caused them to back off and pay me (after making my buddy go stand at the entrance).

At the Bellagio just a couple of years ago, my wife tripped over a stroller as she was walking across the gaming floor. Mommy was pushing Baby across the floor, and sorry to say, my wife was not watching for cross-traffic strollers among the slot machines.

In any case, I would imagine there's been no back-off to that law, but man, the number of kids I see in the casino these days makes me wish the mob was still running that town.

Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at January 06, 2013 06:28 PM (VcDCJ)

112 If my waiter/server has those ear disks, he gets no tip just on general principle.

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 06:28 PM (zOP5o)

113 Hate to say it but many of the places with bored staff already factor the tip into your bill.

Next time just eat at Olive Garden or McDonalds.

Once I was standing to check out at a gas station/food service place. The check out girl had a bleeding gum with the flow right down her front teeth.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (G6kli)

114 Hisute ladies, and no I don't wonder at all. Take a gander back over this commentary, and just imagine a troll quoting it all verbatim on another site. Worse yet, imagine having us for customers.

With about three exceptions, mosta youse would get run outta my jernt.

Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (qaVK+)

115 108
The other nice thing about eating in Paris or France in general, is that the children are extremely well behaved.
Posted by: keena at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (JpqtI)
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I think there was a prog trend of French-style parenting there for a while. Too bad they don't realize that trying to be hip progtrash parents ruins the children beyond any hope of method-parenting success.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (qw+yV)

116 @79 LOL!

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (x1tp+)

117 The other nice thing about eating in Paris or France
in general, is that the children are extremely well behaved. None are
running around going apeshit in the restaurant and no parents are
begging them to do anything. I also like that the people are not
screamingly loud and there is not music blasting so you have to yell to
talk to your friends. Yes, there are some wonderful things about France.
Think that covered them all!

Posted by: keena at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (JpqtI)

____________
I've never met anyone from France I didn't like. It's like collectively the country is a jerk. But individually they're very nice people. Weird.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (HDgX3)

118 -

Waiter - I'm really an actor.

Me: Okay, then act like a waiter.

__

Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (RuUvx)

119 And CDB, big titties with no bra would get a bigger tip from me, especially if they were running their A/C on high.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (53z96)

120
Of course, the other thing about restaurants in general in Europe is that people will bring their dogs in with them to the restaurant. Not so much the loud and out of control children, but dogs in a restaurant.
Years ago, we were having dinner in this nice little place in the Operahouse District, and one of my co-workers got dogshit on her purse when she put it on the floor under the table. That's something that usually doesn't happen at TGI Fridays, for all its other shortcomings.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 06:33 PM (Md8Uo)

121 "Well boy, we are pilgrims in an unholy land."

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is the best and true ending for the Indiana franchise. Crystal skulls, meh!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:33 PM (HXcdb)

122 I always hate it when I get a burger and fries and don't get a fork. Yes, French Fries are technically a finger food, but when they're covered in ketchup a fork is useful. Same deal with a burger. You can eat it with your hands, but when it suffers a structural integrity failure a fork comes in handy.

Posted by: Fart at January 06, 2013 06:33 PM (erQJO)

123 When you get crappy service, the simple -- and old school -- way of making that point known is not to stiff the server on the tip or even leave a penny. No, the appropriate tip for such crappy service is $.02, as in giving them your 2 cents worth.

Posted by: RickZ at January 06, 2013 06:33 PM (3o0hi)

124
What I've seen more of recently are snotty customers ripping into waitstaff. I saw an old lady just tear into some girl who'd spilled something on the lady's purse. Mistake yeah but she was apologetic.
I said something later to the waitress and she wasn't as livid as I'd have been, which is why I last as a waiter until my first incident, then I'd be kicked off the property.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 06:34 PM (MPjT8)

125 Number one pet peeve, ANYWHERE. When it is obvious that I am winding up the meal, bring me the check, PRONTO. I hate waiting on waiters.

And while we're at it, maybe someone smarter than me can explain why they insist on clearing my table first. I am sure that they have been instructed to do so, but I don't understand why. I want the check when I am done.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:34 PM (4Mv1T)

126 One of my favorite lunch places in San Francisco's Financial District is Schroeder's. Great German food and it was served by REAL NAZIs!
Talk about crisp saurbraten served crisply.....
Took a date to the Waldorf-Astoria one time and the service was too, too much. Wouldn't let us eat and smooze in peace and then added their own tip to the bill.

Posted by: Whitehall at January 06, 2013 06:35 PM (FmPSC)

127 I was in Dairy Queen yesterday ordering a gigantic heart attack burger...and all the girls behind the counter where very cheerful helpful and optimistic. LIke they actually enjoyed life....guess its different where people still love God and country.....

Posted by: The Heartland - where people still act like they enjoy life at January 06, 2013 06:35 PM (0JB89)

128 "A Good Ming is Hard to Find

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:28 PM (G9qZk)"

I have to Han that one to you.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at January 06, 2013 06:35 PM (mMtFx)

129 Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:32 PM (53z96)

I am not referring to the attractive kind, but rather to the busty-dyke-with-an-attitude-and-no-bra kind.

The ones who can tuck their nipples into their pockets.

The sexy ones are guaranteed a 20% tip from me, and I don't usually notice whether they serve me the correct order.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:37 PM (GsoHv)

130 I have a really good story about someone going ballistic when we went to a drive through when I had a job after my freshman year of college and did not receive any plastic- ware. completely unglued. my best man tells it every time we get together. It has too much personally identifiable information to share.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 06:37 PM (Z9EHQ)

131 I prefer to wipe my ass with a 5 or 10 and then trash them online.

Posted by: Cashpipe at January 06, 2013 06:37 PM (75sW/)

132 The other nice thing about eating in Paris or France

in general, is that the children are extremely well behaved. None are

running around going apeshit in the restaurant and no parents are

begging them to do anything.



I am notoriously child unfriendly but I will admit to having a huge double standard when it comes to kids in restaurants. If I'm in a nicer place, then keep your screaming brats home. If I'm in TGIF on kid's eat free night? Please keep your kid from puking on my food. If I voluntarily go to a family restaurant then that's on me.

I will also say that I do not comprehend people who insist on taking small kids, say six or seven years old and younger, out to fancy restaurants. Of course the kids are acting up, there's nothing for them to eat and there's nothing for them to do. If you can't afford the sitter, then don't go out.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 06:37 PM (Gk3SS)

133 To hell with that. Have you priced fender washers lately?

Cheaper to drill a hole in a penny.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 06:37 PM (iHs4Z)

134 Dagger from Releford. That might do it.
Temple scores to get back within 4 with less than 30 sec.

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 06:38 PM (RlvM2)

135 Schroeder's is still open? How about Harrington's?

Posted by: Uncle Jed at January 06, 2013 06:38 PM (AVfT8)

136 CBD, sounds like the restaurants you visited are trying hard to be on "Kitchen Nightmares"

Might be fun to watch them cry when Gordon Ramsay unleashes that gate to Hell he calls a mouth though

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:40 PM (wwsoB)

137 Does the poster have a problem with pendulous breasts? Don't they deserve to live free, too?

Posted by: Mike James at January 06, 2013 06:40 PM (cgDgK)

138 just imagine a troll quoting it all verbatim on another site. Worse yet, imagine having us for customers.

With about three exceptions, mosta youse would get run outta my jernt.
Posted by: comatus at January 06, 2013 06:29 PM (qaVK+)
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It's always like that on here man. Sheeeeet, did you ever read the 'bar etiquette' thread? Hard to imagine why 60% of commenting morons would ever leave the house

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 06:42 PM (qw+yV)

139 Geeze, is there any way to ': D' without having to ?

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 06:42 PM (qw+yV)

140
AtC- actually my kids were better behaved when they were 7 and 4 than when they were 16 and 13.
They have gotten a little bit better lately (18 and 15 now), but it is really annoying when people have small or medium sized children that don't behave. Years ago I was at dinner with my boss, his wife and my wife at a rather casual dining place, and the table next to us only had kids at it. Their parents were seated at the other side of the restaurant. Even the waitstaff was embarrassed about how that went. I came really close to picking a fight with one of the Dads as we all left together - it was that miserable.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at January 06, 2013 06:43 PM (Md8Uo)

141 >>>then keep your screaming brats home.

I prefer them with mustard, sauerkraut, and potato-salad. And beer.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 06:43 PM (w3+gB)

142 You oppressors get what you deserve. You are oppressing me by making me actually work instead of pull American flags out of my ass on public streets funded by the NEA!

Posted by: Your waiter who is really an oppressed performance artist at January 06, 2013 06:44 PM (Vk2pI)

143 141 >>>then keep your screaming brats home.

I prefer them with mustard, sauerkraut, and potato-salad. And beer.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 06:43 PM (w3+gB)
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Is that like a boiling lobster brat?

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 06:44 PM (qw+yV)

144 That Dr Pepper commercial was interesting.

Posted by: Ends With Prepositions And Fists at January 06, 2013 06:44 PM (I4o0Z)

145 >>>>>then keep your screaming brats home.

Ditto.

Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 06:44 PM (VMcEw)

146 I prefer them with mustard, sauerkraut, and potato-salad. And beer.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 06:43 PM (w3+gB)


I suggest the Irish Roast

Posted by: Jonathan Swift at January 06, 2013 06:45 PM (Vk2pI)

147 Who eats out?

Posted by: mama winger at January 06, 2013 06:45 PM (P6QsQ)

148
Wonderful opportunity -- these f--ksticks, with nearly the same regularity as black people, voted for Obama. So I shouldn't have to tell you how to tip.
Personally, I don't patronize the restaurants in the first place. But in those rare times I do, I'm looking for that "I'm Julia" or "I belive in Hope Change" "Coexist"-y kinda vibe. Oh... $40 meal for two? Sorry... here's a buck-o-five for a tip.

Posted by: Sam In VA at January 06, 2013 06:46 PM (YCvRs)

149 "133 To hell with that. Have you priced fender washers lately? Cheaper to drill a hole in a penny."

The slugs from electrical box knockouts readily found all over jobsites can also double as poor-service tip tokens.

Posted by: derit at January 06, 2013 06:47 PM (I88Jc)

150 Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 06:40 PM (wwsoB)

No, they are both successful. I think it is the NY attitude that if the place isn't relatively formal, then service can be an afterthought.

I don't buy it, and won't spend my money at places that don't take service seriously. Hell, most diners have better service than these kinds of places.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:48 PM (GsoHv)

151 OT: Finally saw Django. Fun movie, worth a watch. Definitely has some laughs and some great over-the-top gore (mostly just massive sprays of blood and bodies flying from bullet wounds). Oh, and gratuitous use of red blood on white things e.g. blood on white flowers, blood on white linens, and, of course, blood on white people.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 06:27 PM (qw+yV)








Saw it this morning (Bittorrent off an awards season screener. Fuck You Hollywood.). Gotta disagree with you, it's easily Tarantino's worst. And I'm a QT fan. This two hour movie was the longest three and a half hours I've experienced in awhile. Waltz was the only real bright spot, he was excellent. The main villain (not DiCap!) was mildly interesting from a plot standpoint.

But Foxx was terrible, the jokes weren't funny, the plot felt forced, and all the other characters were crude cardboard cutouts. Not to mention that Mississipi, Tennessee and Texas landscapes shouldn't look like frickin' Southern California. And most importantly, QT needs to finally retire the self-reverential film schtick.

By the by, QT's accent is actually Aussie, which is why it sounds odd here. One of the other Mine Company goons has a similar Aussie accent.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (MBqvE)

152 The ones who can tuck their nipples into their pockets.


Must be talking about the ones at GITMO that Oscar Brand knew about. Try about 1:20


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1JHtNJvw8

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (53z96)

153
Soonawins this one. NYC can go toHE double toothpicks.

Posted by: Jacke at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (5Cwv4)

154
Someone woke up on the bitchy side of bed.

Posted by: DC Zombie at January 06, 2013 06:50 PM (EZ3C3)

155 @10
Ah, philosophy majors.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 06:51 PM (obHYs)

156 I'm usually with a party greater than 6 or 7 so they automatically add the gratuity. Then they proceed to give you the wait service that comes with a pre paid gratuity. When you object they point to the fine print on the menu concerning large parties. In some restaurants they've been burned by europeans who do not tip and everyone gets the gratuity added. "If you don't like it, don't eat here" is the prevailing attitude in these places.

But today I realized these guys can't hold a candle to lowe's employees. The store was full of employees, more than I've seen there in a long time but yet, no one, no one, knew the answer to "where can I find a kitchen trash can?". My rubbermaid outside trash cans with the lifetime guarantee had their bottom fall out. I was so annoyed that I sent them an email with pictures and to my shock they sent me two coupons for two new trash cans. Today was the day I decided to redeem the coupons. Needless to say, I eventually never found kitchen trash cans and settled for a replacement of the outside trash cans. It was fairly simple and quick, however, the rest of the story wasn't quick or simple and added an additional hour to my lowe's visit. The cashier looked at the coupons like they were radioactive. She repeated the transaction five times each time we waited for the store manager to "override" the sale so she could put in the coupons. She finally pushed a button and told me she couldn't do it and to go to customer service. At customer service I loudly and clearly asked the manager not to leave until the transaction was done. Thankfully she realized that I was pretty annoyed and obliged. However, she could have stayed with the original cashier, until the transaction was completed and I'd have been out of the store within 15 minutes of my stepping into the store.

The icing on the cake was learning that the employee had worked there for over a year and should have known what she was doing.

I am seriously thinking about shorting lowe's stock after this experience. She made every bad waiter/waitress I've had lately look like a freakin genius and she's a long time employee?

Posted by: Caustic at January 06, 2013 06:52 PM (/b8+5)

157 CBD- As someone earlier stated, your post was exceptionally well written.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:52 PM (4Mv1T)

158
do not support "blue" businesses or communities

fuck em

Posted by: soothsayer at January 06, 2013 06:53 PM (052zE)

159 Tips- You start out at 15%. If I don't get a nice smile out of the gate, it drops. Big holes in your ears, ditto.
This 20% crap is just that.
"But, but, everything else costs more than it did when 10% was standard for good service."
That's right you simpering puke, including the food in restaurants. The math works it all out.
At 15% you're still making a hell of a lot more per hour based on the time you spent waiting on and serving me than I ever made.

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 06:53 PM (iW2D2)

160 Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (53z96)

That was funny.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:53 PM (GsoHv)

161 Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 06:52 PM (4Mv1T)

Thank you very much!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (GsoHv)

162 According to Bitterwaitress dot com the standard tip is supposed to be 17% now. (and that was a year or so ago)

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (53z96)

163 Eating out is what my wife and I love to do. We're both foodies, and we have been going to restaurants together since before we were married, 20 something years.
I noticed the trend of crap service starting a few years ago. I think the generation that waits tables, the 20-28 y/o set, are having increasing difficulty with the whole concept of "waiting" on anyone but themselves. I blame it on the public education system in general, and the fucked up idea that EVERYONE is EQUAL and a SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE idea, in particular. This all became HD clear when we were traveling in Wisconsin, (yes, the Peoples Republic of Madison), and the jerkoff waiter in skinny jeans sat down, yes SAT.F'NG.DOWN. at our table to discuss the meal we were about to order.
I tipped him like 7%, and was expecting a confrontation.
BTW, the food was excellent.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 06, 2013 06:54 PM (M0O7A)

164 Fritz are you like Witch Hazel, prefers kinder unt decke ja?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 06:55 PM (HXcdb)

165 I agree with Mister Dildo, except that both the restaurants he mentions are low end places with high end food. Complaining about service there seems silly. They don't strike me as proper targets for the noticeable drop in service in pricey restaurants where one has the right to expect otherwise.

Posted by: Zippity Doo Dah at January 06, 2013 06:56 PM (E55AK)

166 I so fucking hate our tipping system. e.g., when my mom, sister, daughter and neice go have lunch, we are there for about 2 hours, and all the grownups are drinking lots o' beers. The wait-staff, if they know us, will give great service, but there's lots of turnover at these places, and the ones who don't know us, size us up as bad tippers. because we're women with children. We are super-generous tippers, but some don't get to know that, because of their self-fulfilling prophesies. So we tip well, even though bad service, and maybe eradicate their view of "women", or we tip minimally, because of the horrible service. I don't know what's right. But we almost always do the former. Even if we're evil republicans. ('cept Mom.)

This para-Superbowl is making me a bit drunk, so please excuse the hiccups.

Posted by: kalneva at January 06, 2013 06:57 PM (S+/pH)

167
147
Who eats out?


Posted by: mama winger at January 06, 2013 06:45 PM (P6QsQ)

Oh my....you didn't really go there, did you??

Posted by: JMKN1 at January 06, 2013 06:58 PM (JMKN1)

168 Years ago I was at dinner with my boss, his wife and my wife at a rather
casual dining place, and the table next to us only had kids at it.
Their parents were seated at the other side of the restaurant.


A few years ago, I was in a very high end steak house when two families came in with small children. They were seated a table over from me and within five minutes the kids were shrieking and crying and running around. My waitress came over to ask if I needed anything and I said, very very loudly, "Yes, a new table as soon as possible." She said she'd be right back. One of the mothers comes stomping over and starts to light into me for being rude. I cut her off with "Oh, I'm sorry, are you going to be paying the $100 or so bill that this meal will be? Because if not, I don't think I'm being unreasonable by asking that we both be allowed to enjoy our meals." She goes stomping off, though not after calling me a cunt, and I go back to sipping my martini. The manager came over and apologized as they moved all my stuff and I told him that it wasn't his problem that apparently people had no consideration for others.


I could tell my waitress was convinced I was going to short her on the tip but she still gave great service. I made sure that she saw I was leaving a her 30% tip and I thought she was going to cry.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 06:59 PM (Gk3SS)

169 I'm going to be 0-2 on picks today.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 06:59 PM (MPjT8)

170 Saw "Django Unchained" this weekend.

It was okay, not QT's best. Probably about 20-30 minutes too long.

Like Stephen King, he's become a victim of his own success and needs a strong editor.


Actually, a better movie that sort of treads the same territory is the old James Garner/Louis Gossett Jr serio-comedy-


"The Skin Game"


give it a look if you have the chance.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:00 PM (G9qZk)

171 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 06:59 PM (Gk3SS)



You were kinder to her than I would have been.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2013 07:01 PM (53z96)

172 Are the Redskins winning?

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (epFwI)

173 172 Not anymore.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (tlhtD)

174 >>>Fritz are you like Witch Hazel, prefers kinder unt decke ja?

If you can get me a gig like Hänsel und Gretel with Kirsten-what's-her-name as the main dish, we'll talk.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (w3+gB)

175 @172 - not anymore

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 06, 2013 07:02 PM (/vDJ+)

176 21/14

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (tlhtD)

177 Crap

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (epFwI)

178 The Redskins are unwinning

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (8sCoq)

179 Alexthechick just proved how magnificent and benevolent she is, truly a fit ruler of for Alextopia.

Not the waitress' fault the the families turned out to be a tribe of savages. And the business did fix the problem.

$100, besides the martini what else was on the menu? For me $100 would be some really nice sushi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (HXcdb)

180
"The Skin Game"


give it a look if you have the chance.

=======
It sucks. Seattle just took the lead.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:04 PM (MPjT8)

181 I was in France last summer with the fam, and outside of Paris at least, the waiter's salary is included in the price. I had a conversation with our waiter, and we got onto the topic. He told me not to leave a tip, since it was included. I was so impressed, that naturally I had to tip him. Good guy.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 07:04 PM (6TB1Z)

182 "The Skin Game"

give it a look if you have the chance.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:00 PM (G9qZk)
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Thanks, just added it to my IMDB Watchlist!

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 07:04 PM (qw+yV)

183 If your expecting Eleven Madison Park service at Nicks Greasy Spoon it might be time to re-evaluate your expectations a little!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 07:05 PM (zOP5o)

184 Fritz unter ze decke mit Kristen ja?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:05 PM (HXcdb)

185 RGIII ineffective- may have re-injured the knee but is still in the game- Seattle is running the ball at will

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:05 PM (8sCoq)

186 NF, I saw Django Unchained. I think it is better than a lot of other crap coming out of Hollywood.

OK I will break a resolution...my favorite parts: The 'hood' dialog, the 'Stairs' dialog, and the 'Steven' intro dialog. All the other is just filler.


Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 07:05 PM (VMcEw)

187 I was so impressed, that naturally I had to tip him.

Please excise the unnecessary comma between impressed and that.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 07:05 PM (6TB1Z)

188 LOL In France you don't tip the cow, you tip the waiter.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:06 PM (HXcdb)

189 Shanahan should pull RGIII now- RGIII can't even outrun the DT to avoid the sack

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:06 PM (8sCoq)

190 But DiT can still give us a pic of their cheerleaders next week anyway, right?
Preferably one that focuses on the brunette on the far right. That there is an all night buffet.

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (pozvt)

191 Seattle just recovered a fumble at the WAS 5, RGIII is down and he is hurt

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (8sCoq)

192 And RG is hurt. Sux that.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (QupBk)

193 Holy fuck there just went the franchise.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (Gk3SS)

194 RG hurt.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:07 PM (MPjT8)

195 Ouch--that knee buckled.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (MPjT8)

196 That was bad.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (tlhtD)

197 ewww that replay looks bad- didnt know a knee could bend that way

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (8sCoq)

198 How stupid to leave RGIII in.....that looked bad!

Posted by: Tami at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (X6akg)

199 Rg3 is hurt. Looked real bad. Knee.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (ZshNr)

200 A few years ago, I was in a very high end steak house when two families came in with small children...
----

Something similar happened to me at a sushi restaurant, except that instead of just noise (which is bad enough) the kid threw a ball on our table.

Who gives a child a ball to play with at a restaurant?


Meanwhile, Shanahan's stubborness has killed the Skins season and possibly RGIII's career.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (5H6zj)

201 RGIII on the ground, very bad knee from the views

Posted by: TXBill at January 06, 2013 07:08 PM (ChYZ7)

202 Surgery in the off-season for sure now.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:09 PM (QupBk)

203 RGIII just hyperextended his knee in exactly the same way he did in the BAL game- he's done

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:09 PM (8sCoq)

204 He never should have been in there.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:09 PM (MPjT8)

205 Damn damn damn.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:09 PM (QupBk)

206 fat lot of good that knee brace did

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:09 PM (8sCoq)

207 The horrified babes in the stadium look kinda cute with their Hogwarts scarves.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (PjE3A)

208 $100, besides the martini what else was on the menu? For me $100 would be some really nice sushi.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:03 PM (HXcdb)



Steak the size of my head, nice caesar salad, baked potato also the size of my head and, most importantly, three very very strong martinis.


Not to mention the chocolate cake which they cut into three pieces and boxed up two ahead of time for me.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (Gk3SS)

209 Yikes!

There went RG3's ligaments and a few knee cartilages.

It's stupid to have had him in there.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (G9qZk)

210 Shanahan should have pulled RGIII for the 2nd half

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (8sCoq)

211 The cost of everyone gets a participation trophy generation.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (qo244)

212 By the by, QT's accent is actually Aussie, which is why it sounds odd here. One of the other Mine Company goons has a similar Aussie accent.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (MBqvE)
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Good call, the other durd was Aussie. I thought KillBill was his worst. Anyway, what can I say, I got a couple laughs and I liked the big sprays of blood. If I wanted art I'd have stayed home and watch My Left Foot

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 07:11 PM (qw+yV)

213 Okay you can keep the chocolate cake and martinis, the rest so want!!! Nom!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:11 PM (HXcdb)

214 I can understand letting him start, but after the 1st quarter it was clear he wasn't going to be able to be effective. It was affecting even his throwing.

Shanahan should've brought in Cousins while they had a lead and given the kid a chance to win.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:11 PM (5H6zj)

215 I can't believe he's walking.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:11 PM (QupBk)

216 Yikes!



There went RG3's ligaments and a few knee cartilages.



It's stupid to have had him in there.





Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:10 PM (G9qZk)



Yup. The play before I actually said out loud "what the hell are you doing pull him before he gets hurt."

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:11 PM (Gk3SS)

217 I'm surprised he walked out of there.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:12 PM (MPjT8)

218 Time to mute Joe the Fuck Buck. He's been rooting for Seattle all game.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:12 PM (5H6zj)

219 >>>Fritz unter ze decke mit Kristen ja?

Only if she's over 30, I have my standards. Okay, 21.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 07:12 PM (w3+gB)

220 I guess RGIII has more guts and determination than brains if he walked off with the injury described.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (HXcdb)

221 216Yeah AtC especially on that shitty field.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (tlhtD)

222 RGIII probably more hurt than injured- you guys who have played know what I mean

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (8sCoq)

223 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2013 06:49 PM (MBqvE)
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Also, I've noticed that anytime I see a movie on the big screen I like it a lot more than if I watch it at home. Not sure if it's because I sit in the front or if I want to justify the six bucks!

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (qw+yV)

224 i think we'll find he re-aggravated the earlier sprain

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:14 PM (8sCoq)

225 Must be more stretched than torn. The NFL guys have pretty loose knees by the time they get there.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:14 PM (QupBk)

226 I live in NW Louisiana, near Shreveport.

I love the people here. The neighbors don't just hand out Halloween candy, many of them take the time to talk to each kid about his or her costume.

We usually get wonderful service at restaurants. In 3 years here, there was one bad waiter.

One time, at Sue's Country Kitchen, the waitress cut up my son's pancakes for him so I could go ahead and get started on my food.

Oh, and parents make their kids behave here, too. I had stopped noticing it until once, on 4th of July, at a touristy place there was a misbehaving child and I realized I couldn't remember the last time I saw that in public.

Apropos nothing, Margaritaville Casino/Resort is opening in June...

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 07:14 PM (SUKHu)

227 Troy Aikman looks better since he had his neck bolts grounded down.

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 06, 2013 07:14 PM (BVkEs)

228 Marcus Lattimore's injury this year looked much worse in slow motion. Sphincter puckering it was.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:15 PM (QupBk)

229 RGIII hurt.

looks up You know, one of these days we really need to have a talk.

In this corner, weighing in at 145 lbs, teeeeeeej

And in this corner, weighing in at the combined total of all the mass making up the universe, THE LOOORRD

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 07:15 PM (W50F+)

230 Skins backup QB is in

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:15 PM (8sCoq)

231 RGIII probably more hurt than injured- you guys who have played know what I mean


Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:13 PM (8sCoq)



Yup. I'm assuming if the injury was as bad as I assumed it was, then there's no way in hell the medical staff would let him walk off.


I agree about putting Cousins in when they had the lead. He played well when he started. And appears to be playing well now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:16 PM (Gk3SS)

232 and moving the ball.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:16 PM (QupBk)

233 I go to restaurants in Boston all the time, I have good service 99% of the time. One of my favorites had a huge price increase since the last time I was there in November. I'm sure it's got something to do with Obamacare. I know the waiters there have health insurance because of their union.

I hate it when restaurants change, CPK now uses recycled napkins and took away sharp knives, at all their locations.

I like restaurants that use nice cloth napkins. I hate the cheap paper ones.

Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 07:16 PM (z4WKX)

234 WASH 3rd QB Rex Grossman is IA

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:17 PM (8sCoq)

235 Rex Grossman is inactive? NoooooOOOOOO!

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 07:17 PM (w3+gB)

236 The waters/waitresses could just be practicing to become French. It's a learned skill.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2013 07:17 PM (eHIJJ)

237 What's up Cuz?

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 06, 2013 07:17 PM (BVkEs)

238 Cousins is no slouch either.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:17 PM (MPjT8)

239 And RGIII is still on the sideline. I'm really surprised since he didn't make any attempt to pick up the football. I assumed from that then the pain was excruciating.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:18 PM (QupBk)

240 More like France every day.

Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at January 06, 2013 07:18 PM (T/L2Z)

241 Seahawks D smells blood

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:19 PM (8sCoq)

242 That offensive line is offensive.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (MPjT8)

243 You never go for it on 4th and 14.

Posted by: John Maden at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (2rucj)

244 That's how to not play prevent.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (QupBk)

245 As a new former restaurant owner, I feel the pain. It's hard finding help at the min wage level, let alone good help. If you're like me and you didn't want overly pierced, tatted, poorly kempt staff, you've just wiped out about 2/3rds of your potential candidates who are actually experienced. It's just how it is these days - people don't give a shit about their appearance.

And a lot of these poeple aren't going to get the picture if you tip according to service. You're just going to be bad-mouthed after you leave and if you come in again, you'll get shit service again. This is the entitled generation you see? They not only deserve to make an X% tip, they deserve a "living wage" even though their job is low skilled entry level labor and they usually suck at it.

If they are actually good, you'll probably only have them for 6 months if you're luky.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (IgvLC)

246 Yeah this is going south fast for WASH

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (8sCoq)

247 Holy shit, some of the smug and ridiculous comments here are mind blowing. I work as a Sommelier, take my job seriously and do my best to be professional at all times. Some of you people are the reason why those of us in the Service industry become so jaded. You treat us like second hand citizens and have unwordly expectations. To you I say fuck you and you're snobby ilk.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)

248 Grossman was only active for the Browns game that Cousins started.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (Zd/NW)

249 220
I guess RGIII has more guts and determination than brains if he walked off with the injury described.

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I guess you've never seen RGIII give an interview if you're questioning his intelligence.

The injury was no worse than Doug Williams' knee injury during SB XXII.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (5H6zj)

250 235 Rex Grossman is inactive? NoooooOOOOOO!
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 07:17 PM (w3+gB)
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Fortunately, there is still Les Grossman.

http://youtu.be/Odd8Zdhuj9o?t=20s

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (qw+yV)

251 Laura Ingraham tweeting on football strategy- bless her heart

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (8sCoq)

252 So I'll go out on the limb and say that Russell Wilson should be rookie of the year. It look like he's going to be the one that wins a playoff game. That should be the deciding factor.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (Gk3SS)

253 Hubby and I had a string of horrible service back in Philly and Jersey, back in the day.

The funniest story was this place that had tried to go upscale and failed. Failed so badly that Failed called and said "dude you guys are making me look bad".

One failed idea, of many things that failed:

Hey, if a dessert cart is a good idea, how about a seafood cart?

With. Raw. Seafood.

Sitting on plates. On a cart. For the whole evening.

Only time I can remember seeing people recoil at the sight of food in a restaurant.

And thewaiter would hold up each plate and say "this is the shrimp".

The shock of how stupid it was kept me from saying "no shit" to each of 8 or 9 plates.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 07:21 PM (SUKHu)

254 @247

Garcon, another bowl of pretzels, sil vous plait!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 07:22 PM (zOP5o)

255 Y-not. There is IQ and then there is being smart. I am not watching the game but the way people originally described the injury and him walking off a phrase popped to mind. That he has more balls than brains. If I am in error on the injury or his common sense, then I am wrong.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:23 PM (HXcdb)

256 Sommelier? That's French, isn't it?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2013 07:23 PM (eHIJJ)

257 >Some of you people are the reason why those of us in
the Service industry become so jaded. You treat us like second hand
citizens and have unwordly expectations. To you I say fuck you and
you're snobby ilk.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)


shaddap and make us sandwiches

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:23 PM (8sCoq)

258 >>Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM

Hope your nose ring infection clears up soon.

But, seriously, I think you're full of shit. The comments have been reasonable.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:24 PM (5H6zj)

259 Hey CBD, if you are up for some Italian food, specifically Sicilian cuisine, stop by Cacio & Vino on 2nd Ave btwn 4th & 5th. The food is wonderful and the wine selection is too. The owner has several small, well-run neighborhoods spots downtown and shows up all the time. The staff is great, whether they know you or not. Across the street is Ballerò - more of a wine bar/ spaghetteria/ simpler, home-y-er food, but same owner and friendly & professional staff.
Dining at these places is as if you aren't in NYC anymore.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at January 06, 2013 07:24 PM (53riN)

260 shaddap and make us sandwiches

and another round for the morons.

*twirls finger about*

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:24 PM (QupBk)

261 Sommelier? That's French, isn't it?

Why, yes, yes it is. It means "entitled douchebag".

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 07:24 PM (6TB1Z)

262 Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)

Looks like someone's got a raw nerve.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 06, 2013 07:25 PM (IgvLC)

263 >>>I work as a Sommelier...

What is that, like a cork sniffer?

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 07:25 PM (w3+gB)

264 Sommelier? That's French, isn't it?>>

IIRC it's french for the guy who is currently serving his turn in the ships barrel.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:25 PM (qo244)

265 Ynot, Is Ruth's Diner still good

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (kdfQ/)

266 Well, we live in an Atheistic, prestige-driven society. People who find themselves in low-prestige jobs are going to be prone to perpetually insisting that they're better than the prestige of their jobs would imply (by the "logic" of prestige.)


Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (mb+Yr)

267 Mien komerad Fritz, garcon LFD he is how you say the guy with the towels at the loo oui?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (HXcdb)

268 Hard to believe a wine steward gets grief. That's the guy I like the most.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (QupBk)

269 and the girl with the desert cart

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:26 PM (QupBk)

270 Toby be truthful. You want her for desert.

Be here all night. Try the veal!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (HXcdb)

271 Sommelier-the guy handing out mints in the restroom.IIRC

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (tlhtD)

272 or the dessert cart

either or

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (QupBk)

273 Restaurants that make an effort are at a premium in our immediate area. As I said, in Salt Lake it's fine, but that's 45 min away. So we try to find restaurants for "dining" not just eating closer to us.

One that we've tried several times is about 20 min away. The food is pretty good (some of it is excellent), but the service is gawd awful. The sad thing is that the problem comes not just from a weak talent pool but mostly from a really heavy-handed manager. He's got the staff so twisted in knots that they're like deer in the headlights. Last time we were there our primary server was like that hysterical chick in Airplane! We wanted to grab him by the shoulders and shake him to snap him out of it.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:27 PM (5H6zj)

274 The girl with the drink cart on the golf course is the only service person I care for. And I care deeply for her.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (IgvLC)

275
Sommelier? That's French, isn't it?

Sommeliers, sommetell da truth.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (b1VIZ)

276 247
Holy shit, some of the smug and ridiculous comments here are mind
blowing. I work as a Sommelier, take my job seriously and do my best to
be professional at all times. Some of you people are the reason why
those of us in the Service industry become so jaded. You treat us like
second hand citizens and have unwordly expectations. To you I say fuck
you and you're snobby ilk.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)

Dude, bringing a bottle of Yellow Tail to a table doesn't make you a Sommelier, it makes you a cocktail waitress.
Now bring me a martini.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (Zd/NW)

277 >>265
Ynot, Is Ruth's Diner still good

Haven't been there. Is it in Provo kind of south of BYU?

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (5H6zj)

278 Wait. Jason Statham's going to be dressed as a priest in his new movie? Well hello there kink I didn't know I had, how you doin'?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM (Gk3SS)

279 Coffee brands using cheaper beans due to inflation;

The Bitter Truth About Why Your Coffee Isn't Tasting as Good Lately

http://tinyurl.com/a6eeprj

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (wwsoB)

280 You treat us like second hand citizens and have unwordly expectations. To you I say fuck you and you're snobby ilk.

Now that's just hurtful. Why would you call be a "snobby ilk"?

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (6TB1Z)

281 Has Jason Statham ever been in a bad movie? Conversely, has he ever been in a good one?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (QupBk)

282 LiveFreeOrDie

Did you even read? Most every comment has been good help gets taken care of. Bad, slovenly help, not so much.

Besides, you call yourself a sommelier, capitalize it no less, and call us snobby? Go find a fucking mirror jack ass.

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (JxJPF)

283 I worked my way through college waiting tabled so I almost always leave 20% (in fact, I round UP so usually it is slightly more than 20%) for average service -- more for outstanding service. The few times I've felt strongly enough that the service was so bad it justified me "shorting" (which in my case is leaving 15% -- which is still a decent tip) I have made sure to inform the manager that I'm only leaving 15% because the service was bad -- I can't bring myself to leave less & this way I figure the server will know s/he lost $.

Posted by: angienc at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (Ynbgq)

284 @247


A bottle of your finest Maddog, my good man.


With the twist top twisted but not removed. And two jam jars.


There's a good chap.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (G9qZk)

285 Snobby Ilk, is that in season?

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (obHYs)

286 Jason Statham as Jason Statham in

Jason Statham Action Movie

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (8sCoq)

287 >>Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 07:28 PM

Thread-winner

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (5H6zj)

288 Hahaha, nose ring?? Sorry, wouldn't go well with a suit and tie. It's interesting being a conservative/libertarian in the F & B world. Everyone thinks you're supposed to be a lib douchebag.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (0V8v0)

289 The other night were in a place where the cook got overwhelmed because they had understaffed for the evening, next thing he's on the phone behind the bar yelling at the owner and cussing him big time, all kinds of F- bombs. Would have been funnier if we hadn't had a order back there. We canceled it and split, bartender was real apologetic so I overtipped her. I always try to figure out whose fault problems are so I don't come down on the wrong person.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:30 PM (MPjT8)

290 The St. Pauli girls are nice too, toby928©. Don't forget about them. Great steins.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2013 07:31 PM (eHIJJ)

291 Ynot, no mill creek canyon

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2013 07:31 PM (kdfQ/)

292 is there a corking fee for maddog? it has a screw top so

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2013 07:31 PM (Z9EHQ)

293 When I was a busboy I would on occasion leave money on my waitresses tables when they got stiffed.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:32 PM (5H6zj)

294 averagesommelier

Posted by: ontherocks at January 06, 2013 07:32 PM (aZ6ew)

295 FB World?

Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 07:33 PM (GZitp)

296 So, Kent State or Arkansas State?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:33 PM (QupBk)

297 as soon as RGIII re injured that knee in the 2nd Q, this game was over

WASH never scored again- SEA ran off 24 pts

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:33 PM (8sCoq)

298 Pete Carroll frantically trying to find someone on the Seahawks bench that recognizes him.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 06, 2013 07:33 PM (aZ6ew)

299 Jason Stathom is Gwilym Morgan in: How Dead Was My Valley!"

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 07:33 PM (obHYs)

300 as soon as RGIII re injured that knee in the 2nd Q, this game was over

Yep.. Couldn't keep the defense off the field and they wore down quick.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:33 PM (QupBk)

301 Has Jason Statham ever been in a bad movie? Conversely, has he ever been in a good one?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:29 PM (QupBk)



The remake of The Italian Job is a very good movie. The rest of them are Jason Statham in a Jason Statham Action Movie (hi, I'm stealing that). Which I consider a very good thing indeed. Crank 2 is my all time favorite wtf sequel. I mean, there's not even any possible pretense that the plot makes an iota of sense.


I will say, even for someone who has no standards when it comes to Jason Statham movies, In The Name Of The King takes a lot a lot a lot of alcohol to get through.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:34 PM (Gk3SS)

302 How does Ray Lewisfactor into this game?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:34 PM (MPjT8)

303 Where I live, the service is usually great.



The one thing that bugs me here is the waiter/ress who decides
they're gonna be your new best buddy, coming by every five seconds
asking you if the food is great.



It's annoying as hell. Just serve me my food and watch to see if I
need more water or another drink. I don't need a new best friend.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (G9qZk)


I hear you! Waiter/waitress hovers around until he/she can catch you with a mouth full of something that needs chewing. "Is the food OK?" "No, it's shitty. That's why I have my mouth stuffed with it."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 07:34 PM (29+x5)

304 Everyone thinks you're supposed to be a lib douchebag.>>

It was the whiney tone. If you speak to me in German I'll assume you are German. So if you speak to me in lib douch I will assume you are lib douche.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (qo244)

305 Hey Ed Wood, find a Cinemark/Tinseltown near you for Jan 31st.

That is when Rifftrax will tackle Plane 9 from Outer Space.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (HXcdb)

306 @281

Jason Statham was in Snatch which I consider one of the best films of all-time or at least a film I watch whenever it's on when I'm looking at things that have films showing on them!

Posted by: General Woundwort at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (zOP5o)

307 "Is the food OK?"

Can't talk, 'baitin.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (QupBk)

308 Y-not: "When I was a busboy I would on occasion leave money on my waitresses tables when they got stiffed."

Bravo.

Don't forget to tell everyone to try the veal.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (eHIJJ)

309 I had my time in the barrel, busing tables in HS and waiting table in college (Williamsburg in the summertime = buttloads of sweaty, cranky tourists and their exhausted children). I know what a good waiter looks like, and there are damn few of them now.

I ran my ass off making sure to do absolutely the best I could despite the non-optimal conditions. The nicest folks I encountered were the ones to whom I gave the poorest service. Family is sitting in the booth. Lady orders liver and onions. I bring it over, and proceed to tip the entire contents into her purse. I was mortified, and told them so. They saw I was hustling and left me a nice tip. Bless you, people, wherever you are.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (6TB1Z)

310 The service is crappy but they are serving you on a plate shaped like a triangle. You know what else I'm sick of...expensive "Italian" restaurants that don't serve Italian food.

Posted by: Flying Manatee at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (YEDer)

311 No GoDaddyBowl thread?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (QupBk)

312 I always try to figure out whose fault problems are so I don't come down on the wrong person.

----

^This.

I've never stiffed a waiter. I think I've left 10% a couple of times.

Husband did at one local Mexican joint (in Orem) where the waitress copped a 'tude when we tried to order beer. They used to have a beer license and beer still appeared on their menu. She gave us really bad service after that, but I think the kicker was when the owners' 8 yr old kid appeared in the dining room "serenading" the patrons with terrible singing and guitar. (This was after their 4 yr old was allowed to play hostess during the seating process.)

Pro-tip to restauranteurs: your restaurant is not your family room and I am not there to humor your kids.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:36 PM (5H6zj)

313 247
Holy shit, some of the smug and ridiculous comments here are mind
blowing. I work as a Sommelier, take my job seriously and do my best to
be professional at all times. Some of you people are the reason why
those of us in the Service industry become so jaded. You treat us like
second hand citizens and have unwordly expectations. To you I say fuck
you and you're snobby ilk.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM

Yeh, fuck us. Sorry you didn't get that part in "Star Trek, The Musical"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:37 PM (wwsoB)

314 I eat out a LOT..... and what I do is be upfront...

Catch the Waiter's eye.... and say "Just to let you know... I pay for the food, but I TIP for the service...."

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 06, 2013 07:37 PM (lZBBB)

315 I for one have always enjoyed Jason Statham Action Movie, because it doesn't pretend to be anything but what it is

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:38 PM (8sCoq)

316 226 >> Apropos nothing, Margaritaville Casino/Resort is opening in June...

Mama AJ, I have a kinda funny story to tell about the one in Biloxi MS that opened early last summer. Their business plan was 'soak the tourists', with no attention paid to locals. Charging $12 for a margarita, no customer loyalty plan, very few comps, etc.

So when summer ran out, so did business. Since then they have replaced the manager, instituted comps and players cards, put in some better odds video poker, and basically apologized to the entire Coast about their formerly shitty attitude.

I still haven't been there. A few friends have, but only once. This has happened before on the Coast, notably when the Beau Rivage and Imperial Palace both first opened. Shitty attitudes about the locals made them both eventually come crawling on hands and knees, begging for local traffic.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 07:39 PM (ccXZP)

317 Thanks for the heads up Anna, definitely going to try to make that, that got one for Manos too. Never been to a rifftrax live but I've heard they are awesome.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 07:39 PM (obHYs)

318 For the record, Eddie Money looks rough. As you were.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 07:39 PM (tlhtD)

319 >>291
Ynot, no mill creek canyon

I'll check it out. Thanks!

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:40 PM (5H6zj)

320 Jason Statham should be the next Bond. He has the right chin for the role.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (w3+gB)

321 304 Everyone thinks you're supposed to be a lib douchebag.>>

It was the whiney tone. If you speak to me in German I'll assume you are German. So if you speak to me in lib douch I will assume you are lib douche.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:35 PM (qo244)


That's why I like to get the f-bombs and "the Democrats are all puppy molesters", out of the way in the first couple of sentences. Just to make sure any relations of mine have forgotten, over time.

Posted by: Zombie JV Stalin at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (9wBsM)

322 Looks like it's still in business. Yelp rating looks good.

http://ruthsdiner.com/

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (5H6zj)

323 "Dude, bringing a bottle of Yellow Tail to a table doesn't make you a Sommelier, it makes you a cocktail waitress.
Now bring me a martini."

Haha, Yellow Tail? Can't think of one reputable restaurant that would serve that shit.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (3YN0H)

324 Erin Andrews needs a speech coach

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (8sCoq)

325
298 Pete Carroll frantically trying to find someone on the Seahawks bench that recognizes him.

Carroll could pull off a pretty decent Andrew Jackson if he lets the hair get longer and gets that wild look in his eye.

Posted by: Jason Newton at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (z6KMg)

326 318 For the record, Eddie Money looks rough. As you were.
Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 07:39 PM (tlhtD)


Yeah, just a little....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (9wBsM)

327
I'm sick of...expensive "Italian" restaurants that don't serve Italian food.
======
I know, right? I went to some 30 buck-an-entree place Il Trattoria and they didn't even have pizza. Bullshit.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (MPjT8)

328 Jason Statham should be the next Bond. He has the right chin for the role.


Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (w3+gB)



That's been kicked around.


Randomly, is there some new federal mandate that Ryan Gosling be in every movie? Don't get me wrong, I like him and all, but it seems like he's in everything lately.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:42 PM (Gk3SS)

329 Carroll could pull off a pretty decent Andrew Jackson if he lets the hair get longer and gets that wild look in his eye.

Funny 'cause it's true.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:43 PM (QupBk)

330 Y-not: "I've never stiffed a waiter. I think I've left 10% a couple of times."

Sounds painful. Stiffing the waiter, however, isn't all that bad.

Posted by: Andi Sulli at January 06, 2013 07:43 PM (eHIJJ)

331 When I was young and stupid and at a Perkins after the bar. We tipped the waitress the corner of a $100 bill stuck under the place-mat as a joke and sat in our car for the reaction. The up was high and the down was pissed. We had also left a $20 under another place-mat so in the end I'm sure she wasn't too pissed (1t was 1980 money).

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:43 PM (qo244)

332 302
How does Ray Lewisfactor into this game?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 07:34 PM (MPjT

He's going to go kill a sommelier after the game.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 07:43 PM (Zd/NW)

333 The owner of The Meatball Shop looks like a pretentious hipster douchebag. I'd walk outside after eating there and right outside the door double over and groan like I just got food poisoning.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (wwsoB)

334 Can't think of one reputable restaurant that would serve that shit.

And by reputable, you clearly mean filled with people who have lots more money than you do, or will ever have. You know, the world is filled with lots of fine folks who can't understand why someone is stupid enough to actually pay someone to open bottles of fermented grape juice.

Stow the attitude, grape boy. Your job isn't that impressive.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (6TB1Z)

335 If Mark Wahlberg has been in a good movie, I've missed it. I haven't seen The Departed so maybe that's why. I heard it was good.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (QupBk)

336 I really dislike eating out at any Italian place because of heritage - Mom 100% Sicilian by way of New Orleans and grandfather and aunt who ran restaurants in south Jersey so I know good cooking. What really makes me doubt the quality of an Italian place is their decor especially when they roll out the checkered tablecloths, the Chianti wine bottle candles, and Dean Martin music. And get something like eggplant Parmesan and can't taste the eggplant or even worse, the red sauce tastes like Ragu.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (HXcdb)

337 Y-not, I was good when I left SLC, but back then Sandy was a suburb, if you lived in West Jordan you had horses and sheep.

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2013 07:45 PM (IS2o0)

338 Rex Grossman could have taken them through the second half, and on to Atlanta. The man has led a team to the Super Bowl, after all.

Posted by: DC Zombie at January 06, 2013 07:45 PM (EZ3C3)

339 Haha, Yellow Tail? Can't think of one reputable restaurant that would serve that shit.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM

Who's being "snobby" now?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:45 PM (wwsoB)

340 I haven't seen The Departed so maybe that's why. I heard it was good.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (QupBk)



Yeah, Infernal Affairs is awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (Gk3SS)

341 On of the best restaurants around here back in the 70's was Plantation Steak House.
The booze laws were funny back then. You "leased" a small room, just a little bigger than your table, that had a sliding door. BYOB and they provided set-ups.
They seated you, gave you menus and asked about your drinks. Came back with drink set-ups and if you were ready to order, fine. If not they came back when you pushed the call button. The only time they came back without you calling after that was to bring your food, which was great.

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (dmcx3)

342 Y-not, that's the place . Eat outside

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (IS2o0)

343 323
"Dude, bringing a bottle of Yellow Tail to a table doesn't make you a Sommelier, it makes you a cocktail waitress.

Now bring me a martini."



Haha, Yellow Tail? Can't think of one reputable restaurant that would serve that shit.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (3YN0H)

Thus, you are a cocktail waitress.

Scotch, neat.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 07:46 PM (Zd/NW)

344 336
I really dislike eating out at any Italian place because of heritage -
Mom 100% Sicilian by way of New Orleans and grandfather and aunt who ran
restaurants in south Jersey so I know good cooking. What really makes
me doubt the quality of an Italian place is their decor especially when
they roll out the checkered tablecloths, the Chianti wine bottle
candles, and Dean Martin music. And get something like eggplant Parmesan
and can't taste the eggplant or even worse, the red sauce tastes like
Ragu.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM

I judge the authenticity of an Italian restaurant by the sound level and content coming from yelling in the kitchen. If you can hear family arguments going on in the dining area from there, you're in a place run by genuine Italians.

"Cause fuck you, that's why !!!" is the clincher

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:48 PM (wwsoB)

345 >>342
Y-not, that's the place . Eat outside

Maybe not today. I'm not sure if it broke zero!


Grape boy. Heh. How about Cork Dork?

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:48 PM (5H6zj)

346 "And by reputable, you clearly mean filled with people who have lots more money than you do, or will ever have. You know, the world is filled with lots of fine folks who can't understand why someone is stupid enough to actually pay someone to open bottles of fermented grape juice.

Stow the attitude, grape boy. Your job isn't that impressive."

Wow, your ignorance is impressive.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:48 PM (3YN0H)

347 From the bad customer files:

When I was bar tending, the thing that absolutely surprised me the most were the wives(girlfriends?) that would wait till their husband started walking toward the door then quickly scoop the tip off the table and dump it in their purse.

Shocked the hell outta me the first time I saw it.

At least one or twice a night I'd see it. On busy nights I might see it 4 or 5 times.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:49 PM (G9qZk)

348 kbabear, yep. What is an Italian family without drama? Buried.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 07:50 PM (HXcdb)

349 >I haven't seen The Departed so maybe that's why. I heard it was good.



Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:44 PM (QupBk)


especially the end where everybody kills each other

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:50 PM (8sCoq)

350 Grape Boy:
http://www.flixya.com/files-photo/y/j/a/yjayasudha1978-1194167.jpg

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:51 PM (5H6zj)

351 I've gotten very pleasant service here in my town in SW Florida, even from the night shift at Denny's.

Worst service I've ever encountered? The Jersey Shore.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 07:51 PM (wwsoB)

352 Yellow Tail?

I ask again Yellow Tail?

What was the question again?

Posted by: Ends With Prepositions And Fists at January 06, 2013 07:51 PM (I4o0Z)

353 When I was bar tending, the thing that absolutely surprised me the most
were the wives(girlfriends?) that would wait till their husband started
walking toward the door then quickly scoop the tip off the table and
dump it in their purse.
----

Wow! That's wrong on so many levels.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:52 PM (5H6zj)

354 247: Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A snobbish post that not only disgraces the great general John Stark's famous line, but also does not realize --- if you're acting like a jaded stuckup jackass and you are a waiter you are doing your job not only wrong, but most likely this is how you live the rest of your life
.....
Additionally, the post implied it was a "prevalence" not a rule, with today's wait staff, so it must have hit pretty close to the mark to get you pissed off enough to spew out your lack of reading comprehension to also see people are only posting here about their disgust with some people not properly doing their job. If you were doing your job properly you would agree and say, yeah, i see this too.
.......

Posted by: John Stark Dark at January 06, 2013 07:52 PM (0JB89)

355 Y-not, I remember eating there outside in the winter.

I judge restaurants by how long they have been open. If they are older then me, I might try them. Other then that I go on price.

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2013 07:52 PM (IS2o0)

356 >>355
Y-not, I remember eating there outside in the winter.

Whoa! Well, I'll have to see if I can cajole my husband into trying that sometime.

Posted by: Y-not at January 06, 2013 07:53 PM (5H6zj)

357 in my drinking days (late 20th century), if I was at a friendly local watering hole, I would tip the bartender up front- hit em with a 10 spot as soon as I sat down

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 06, 2013 07:53 PM (8sCoq)

358 Stow the attitude, grape boy. Your job isn't that impressive."



Wow, your ignorance is impressive.>>

So sommelier the guy that suggests and brings wine to people that know nothing and wont know if your choice was correct or fetches wine for people that do know wine. Sounds difficult.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:54 PM (qo244)

359 I have to disagree about Quentin Tarantino, he is the embodiment of all that is wrong with Hollywood. First he barely has any directorial or writing talent. His characters are not even one dimensional, maybe half-dimensional. His is the reflection of a culture of all style no substance, think of that stupid dance move by John Travolta in Pulp Fiction, the actual peak of the movie.

If his characters could not use profanity he would be making silent movies. He fixates on certain actressess at times in his career, like Uma Thurman, that exhibit some quirkiness of his own.

Too much inside-the-movie-business self-referential, we all suck each other's cocks shtick in each and every one of his movies from Hell. He and Larry Flint are fellow travelers sharing the same demons, and have about the same destructive input to American Culture. Hopefully the both will be beset by the type of characters they extol in their waning years.

And even if QT had not made Django Unchained I would not see it because of the racist dirt-bag Jamie Fox, who can bleach his dick and fuck himself with it. Other than that I am cool with it all.

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 07:55 PM (cSD32)

360 Sounds difficult.

Getting the arched eyebrows just right isn't as easy as it looks.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:55 PM (QupBk)

361 And still no GoDaddy Bowl thread. Dudes! Clash of the Titans here.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 07:57 PM (QupBk)

362 Ok, now what do I watch? Usually getting ready for the next game at this time on Sunday.....I hate when football ends/is ending.

Posted by: Tami at January 06, 2013 07:58 PM (X6akg)

363 Yellow Tail? Can't think of one reputable restaurant that would serve that shit.
Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:41 PM (3YN0H)
---

Wow, this from the guy whining about snobby ilk?

I guess he has to hang out here with his nose in the air because it's not so easy to do when he's bending over to pour other peoples' juice.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 07:58 PM (qw+yV)

364 I judge restaurants by how long they have been open.
If they are older then me, I might try them. Other then that I go on
price.

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2013 07:52 PM (IS2o0)



I have had consistently better service in the big franchise family chains then I've had in high priced places. I do think some of that is because I eat alone 90+% of the time and there is an assumption that I'll be a bad tipper. If the food's good, I'll go back and it's amazing how the service improves once the staff recognizes a regular who is a good tipper.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 07:58 PM (Gk3SS)

365 So sommelier the guy that suggests and brings wine to people that know nothing and wont know if your choice was correct or fetches wine for people that do know wine. Sounds difficult.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:54 PM (qo244)


-----------------------------------------------------


When I was still drinking and went to order wine, I'd tell the waiter(ess) to bring me anything that didn't have a screw-on cap. I was really easy to serve.

Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (0QDQr)

366 Stow the attitude, grape boy. Your job isn't that impressive.


Without me you're eatin off paper plates.

Posted by: Plongeur at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (2rucj)

367 would tip the bartender up front- hit em with a 10 spot as soon as I sat down>>

Me and my buddies would go to a local place that had 2 for 1 on Tuesdays. There were 5 of us and the place was always packed. People would ask us why the waitress walked by them to serve us. We never told them it was because she got a 10 spot for each round of 10 drinks she delivered. Still a cheap night out compared to full price.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (qo244)

368 @359 by Jehu
+1000

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (aqj6v)

369 "A snobbish post that not only disgraces the great general John Stark's famous line, but also does not realize --- if you're acting like a jaded stuckup jackass and you are a waiter you are doing your job not only wrong, but most likely this is how you live the rest of your life
.....
Additionally, the post implied it was a "prevalence" not a rule, with today's wait staff, so it must have hit pretty close to the mark to get you pissed off enough to spew out your lack of reading comprehension to also see people are only posting here about their disgust with some people not properly doing their job. If you were doing your job properly you would agree and say, yeah, i see this too."
No, I do not act like a jaded stuckup jackass. I'm humble and very gracious towards our customers. I take great pride in making sure our guests leave with an amazing experience.
I would agree that it looks bad on us when others aren't properly doing their jobs.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (3YN0H)

370
347 Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 07:49 PM (G9qZk)

We caught my father-in-law doing the same thing the first time our families met. Luckily my husband knew to to look out for that behavior and corrected it as soon as the f-i-l turned his back to leave. We had a huge table with multiple kids - generally well behaved, but even the well behaved take extra effort. The best part is that we were at a restaurant my dad used to manage, so he tried to stiff some of my dad's best hires.

Posted by: Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca...III at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (Y+woW)

371 My ex-SiL is a Sous-Chef de Cuisine. This should frighten anyone who knows her. She could be an extra on the Walking Dead.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (QupBk)

372 Jehu, I know QT is treated like some savant. His only claim to brilliance is him absorbing a whole video store of movies and being able to regurgitate it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (HXcdb)

373 Last year, we decided to do the family night thing at Ruth's Cris Steakhouse.
And we had to explain to at that time 13 year old Little VIA that there was a serious dress code, and he needed to dress accordingly.
We get to the restaurant, and right there in the lobby is the dress code, on a big sandwich board. And I point to the code, and explain that it was important that we dress properly.
And the manager chimes in with how he denies entry to people ho do not meet the dress code.
And we all set down to eat.
And in comes the people wearing cut offs, and flip flops, and all the other styles that do not meet the dress code.
And they all get seated and served.
Yup, Little VIA learned a lesson that day all right.
Just not the one I wanted him to learn.
Weird thing is, when I emailed corporate about the issue, I never heard a thing back, not even an acknowledgement of the email.
One less restaurant that I need to spend money at.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 06, 2013 08:02 PM (jlngc)

374 I'm not wealthy or high class. Just polite.
I get confused when there is a plethora of utensils. I stay away from those establishments.

Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 08:03 PM (JgkPs)

375 Alexthechick, I tend to eat out alone also. And at one hibachi/sushi place more oft than not. Now they know my name, ask how I am doing, and its like home away from home. The food is good, plentiful, and decently priced. And yes I tend to tip them well for doing a good job.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (HXcdb)

376 Buzz saw, come on, she liked it when you pinched her ass

Posted by: Plugs Biden at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (IS2o0)

377 I worked my way through college as a waiter in a couple of pretty nice dinnerhouses in Marina Del Rey and the Valley. That's where I learned that sommeliers are mostly dicks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (ehEyA)

378 NO SOUP FOR YOU,

Posted by: Soup Nazi at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (7x9pP)

379 I get confused when there is a plethora of utensils. I stay away from those establishments.

Yeah, but spork-only restaurants are hard to find.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (6TB1Z)

380 Due to the tax increase by the person you most likely voted for I can no longer afford to help you pay the rent. Your vote had consequences.

Posted by: harleycowboy at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (wSTfB)

381 I'm not wealthy or high class. Just polite. I get confused when there is a plethora of utensils. I stay away from those establishments.
Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 08:03 PM (JgkPs)


-----------------------------------------


The spikey looking one is the fork..........

Posted by: Soona at January 06, 2013 08:05 PM (0QDQr)

382 I am in Vail. Same shit, more expensive. The staff is a little more attractive. That's it. Took 15 minutes to get a glass of club soda after I had bought a $60 bottle of wine.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at January 06, 2013 08:05 PM (tWFaN)

383 Yeah, but spork-only restaurants are hard to find.


Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 08:04 PM (6TB1Z)


Go to any Obama fundraiser.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 08:05 PM (ehEyA)

384 I get confused when there is a plethora of utensils. I stay away from those establishments.>>

Just work your way towards the plate.

Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 08:06 PM (qo244)

385 They allow sporks at Obama fundraisers? Thought they went to finger food only?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:06 PM (HXcdb)

386 Me and my buddies would go to a local place that had
2 for 1 on Tuesdays. There were 5 of us and the place was always
packed. People would ask us why the waitress walked by them to serve us.
We never told them it was because she got a 10 spot for each round of
10 drinks she delivered. Still a cheap night out compared to full price.


Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 07:59 PM (qo244)



There was a local place that Boy BFF and I used to stop at all the time. It got to the point that we'd walk in and whoever was driving would hold up the car keys and the appropriate drink order would be waiting at our table before we even got there. We were walking past someone bitching about us getting a table on a busy Saturday night and Boy BFF turned around and said "Come here twice a week and tip 25% and you'd be amazed what happens."


Just caught the beginning of the miniseries that was the premiere for the new BSG. What a pity that never lasted beyond two seasons. *slaps hands over ears* lalalalalalalalala I can't hear you lalalalalalalalalalala

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (Gk3SS)

387 Just work your way towards the plate.

Sometimes you have to push your way through a lot of utensils to get there.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (ehEyA)

388 Thought they went to finger food only?

No, Biden kept biting people.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 08:07 PM (6TB1Z)

389 Heh, I think this is "Person of Interest." Computer just tells field guy at beginning of show he invented social networking sites to get info for govt data bases.
Yup, stuff people would never "tell" the govt, they put on facebook.
At least we know we're doing it here just to be "in their face" about it.

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 08:08 PM (1CULz)

390 Anna Puma

I am amazed people cannot recognize demon possession today. In ancient times QT would have been stoned, only way to get rid of the demons.

If in Christ's time Jesus would have cast out the legion of demons in the demoniac and instead of allowing them to go into a herd of pigs, he would have allowed them to go into Hollywood producers, directors, and actors, much better prepared ground than pigs, and pigs are valuable as a food source.

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 08:08 PM (cSD32)

391 >>Mama AJ, I have a kinda funny story to tell about the one in Biloxi MS that opened early last summer. Their business plan was 'soak the tourists', with no attention paid to locals.

Oh, good grief. There aren't that many tourists here, so I hope they aren't that stupid.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 08:08 PM (SUKHu)

392 Thanks for the advice. Maybe my wifey will let me eat inside Wendy's if I behave.

Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 08:08 PM (JgkPs)

393 No, I do not act like a jaded stuckup jackass. I'm
humble and very gracious towards our customers. I take great pride in
making sure our guests leave with an amazing experience.

I would agree that it looks bad on us when others aren't properly doing their jobs.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM

Amazing experience? That insists upon itself, doesn't it

Let's see, I remember my first date, my first fuck, my graduation, my first car, my wedding, but most of all who I was with when I dined at "Che La Douche"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:09 PM (wwsoB)

394
I remember my first date, my first fuck...


Orson, it that you honey?

Posted by: Betty White at January 06, 2013 08:10 PM (ndqJC)

395 >>When I was bar tending, the thing that absolutely surprised me the most were the wives(girlfriends?) that would wait till their husband started walking toward the door then quickly scoop the tip off the table and dump it in their purse.

Wow. That blows my mind.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 08:10 PM (SUKHu)

396 TD Redskins!

Posted by: Guy who DVR'd the game at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (2rucj)

397 Does anyone here "close their knife and fork at 5 o'clock when finished eating?

Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (qo244)

398 >>>but most of all who I was with when I dined at "Che La Douche"

You pretentious bastard. You'll take that back if you know what's good for you.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (w3+gB)

399 but most of all who I was with when I dined at "Che La Douche"

The corner of 42nd and 5th right? Try their veal.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (QupBk)

400 377 Cicero

That's where I learned that sommeliers are mostly dicks. dickless.

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (cSD32)

401
You know I think we need to dump CBD as a Open-blogger,

He is just way to responsive to the hoard on his threads. I mean c'mon, where's the distant aloofness I've come to expect from the HQ .

I can't speak to any of this post BTW, I have good service, I have crappy service, I have good food, I have crappy food.

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM (GaqMa)

402
Does anyone here "close their knife and fork at 5 o'clock when finished eating?


Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (qo244)

I normally put them in my purse for gifting.

Posted by: Rose Goldberg at January 06, 2013 08:13 PM (ndqJC)

403 Maragaritaville in Biloxi. Never been there and parents refuse to go back so I take that as a bad sign. IP or Silver Slipper is usually where we go for the food.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:13 PM (HXcdb)

404 Does anyone here "close their knife and fork at 5 o'clock when finished eating?


Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 08:11 PM (qo244)



I do criss cross across the plate but, yes, that's what I was taught to signal that you're done.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 08:13 PM (Gk3SS)

405 I normally put them in my purse for gifting.

Score!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:13 PM (QupBk)

406 Time to plug this electric fone in.
Love each other fellow babies.
Yes, even the wine stewards.

Posted by: teej at January 06, 2013 08:14 PM (Khu8a)

407 Jehu, the demons would complain and demand to be put in pigs after a week.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:14 PM (HXcdb)

408 5 O'clock? Digital clocks,duh.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 08:14 PM (tlhtD)

409 Hey Cicero, don't know your age but if you worked the Valley do you remember or have heard of a great Mexican Restuarant at Devonshire and Reseda called Cisco's? Back in the 70's best service and Mexican food I have ever had. Hard to get a table in under an hour back on weekends.

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 08:15 PM (cSD32)

410 >>Margaritaville in Biloxi. Never been there and parents refuse to go back so I take that as a bad sign.

But this new one will be perfect and we'll have a moron meet up right down the road from me.

Posted by: Mama AJ, in a place better than at January 06, 2013 08:16 PM (SUKHu)

411 Stupid blog.

Posted by: Mama AJ, in a place better than East Saint Louis at January 06, 2013 08:16 PM (SUKHu)

412 Anna Puma 407...probably would not go at all, beg to just be cast straight into Hell :-)

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 08:17 PM (cSD32)

413 I do criss cross across the plate but, yes, that's what I was taught to signal that you're done.>>

Yeah the custom is likely regional. But I have run into very few people where I live that were berated properly.

"It's a fork not a shovel you little piggy".

Posted by: Buzzsaw (raised by Mrs Manners) at January 06, 2013 08:17 PM (qo244)

414 The spikey looking one is the fork..........

And what's that one used for?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:18 PM (hO8IJ)

415 Mama AJ. Jackson to Shreveport. Then we go off in search of Tammy to wish her a speedy recovery?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:19 PM (HXcdb)

416 If this thread is still alive, we had the great food, lousy service last night with another couple. They have this book of all aorts of infused rums and specialty cocktails, and we're big drinkers so the waiter could have sold us $100 worth easy, but we asked for damned book three times, and it never showed up.


His loss. Fuck that guy.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 06, 2013 08:19 PM (Ai+tZ)

417 And what's that one used for?


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:18 PM (hO8IJ)



Stabbing?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at January 06, 2013 08:19 PM (Gk3SS)

418 And what's that one used for?>>

Eye stabbing Use the knife for the chest.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (qo244)

419
That's hard to believe since it is strictly forbidden for anyone under 21 to be in the gaming area and management follows shit like that to the letter since fines are high for breaking the law.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 06, 2013 06:09 PM (HDgX3)


Not so at some of the Indian casinos here in SoCal. The one I worked at FINALLY banned kids under 18 from the gaming floor just a few months ago. Up to that point, it was one of our unwritten jobs to keep kids from playing and congregating near the slot machines. The whole problem stemmed from the way the casino was laid out: all of the restaurants are accessible only from the floor, and there is a rather large, open to everyone outlet center immediately across the street from the main entrance. The new hotel set to open in just a couple of months is only going to exacerbate the problem.

Posted by: Bill H at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (3sZO1)

420 Near topic...

At a soccer game last year, a kid (9-12 ish) whined to his dad that he needed his water bottle.

Dad said, in a voice that carried, "Son, this ain't Chang's Chinese and I don't deliver. You come get your water bottle."

I love this place.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (SUKHu)

421

Holy Spirit not on our side today, paleface.

Posted by: Washington Racist Nicknames at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (1Y+hH)

422 Alexthechick Book of Manners.

"When the fork won't do, use the boots."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (HXcdb)

423 Come at me with that banana!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 08:20 PM (QupBk)

424 Jehu, well except for Megan Fox. Demon possessed would have more passion. Ditto with Keanu Reeves.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:21 PM (HXcdb)

425 What's up with Miss Tammy???

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 08:22 PM (SUKHu)

426 Awww Come over to Clemezas ...I cook a great mustard herb crusted leg of lamb....

Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 08:23 PM (x59Gv)

427 403 >> Maragaritaville in Biloxi. Never been there and parents refuse to go
back so I take that as a bad sign. IP or Silver Slipper is usually where
we go for the food.

Anna, both are under new owners now. Yes, I've eaten at every restaurant/buffet at each of them and was generally satisfied. For pricier stuff like steaks, I much prefer Carter's Steakhouse in Gulfport's Island View as their pricing is much better and actually includes salad and side dishes.

Service is generally good at all the Coast restaurants imho; it's a Southern thang dontcha know.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 06, 2013 08:23 PM (ccXZP)

428 I used to theorize that when the economy was bad the restaurant service would improve because some motivated and capable young people couldn't get better jobs. But I am wrong because today's young people = teh suck.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 06, 2013 08:23 PM (F3nFt)

429 Pneumonia

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at January 06, 2013 08:23 PM (tlhtD)

430 I remember when clinton came to Frisco years ago...the hotel he stayed at had a dishmachine with bacteria drapped in the sanitation end...

Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 08:25 PM (x59Gv)

431 Just ate two Jack in the Box Bacon Cheeseburgers. I actually could feel the cholesterol rushing to my eyes, what the hell is wrong with Jack in the Box, do they soak everything in lard, including the bacon, then fry it in peanut oil?

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 08:26 PM (cSD32)

432 >>it's a Southern thang dontcha know.

Amen.

I love going to McDonald's and having the drive thru get my order perfect 99 times out of 100 and having the teenagers call me ma'am and tell me to have a wonderful day.

I think my husband is starting to realize it's going to be damn near impossible to get me out of the South when he retires. (retires from the miltary, not retires-retires)

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 08:28 PM (SUKHu)

433 They are so convinced in their unique talents, so catered to, and so sure they are on the side of the angels that they appear as if other people are not really people to them -- subspecies, as it were.

Posted by: G. at January 06, 2013 05:45 PM

Yep: http://bit.ly/TRzsh9

How college students think they are more special than EVER: Study reveals rocketing sense of entitlement on U.S. campuses

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 06, 2013 08:28 PM (vUK/h)

434 The Chinese place in the town near me take truth in advertising to a whole new level.

The FU Buffet.

http://tinyurl.com/bes3edx

Link only added to prove I'm not making it up

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 08:29 PM (qo244)

435 >>>Just ate two Jack in the Box Bacon Cheeseburgers

Man oh man, I miss Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr., Inn n Out, Fatburgers. And the Sommeliers never gave me an attitude.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 08:32 PM (w3+gB)

436 "Do you want Yellow Tail with your In n Out?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:33 PM (HXcdb)

437 Total Agreement. Don't tip shitty service. It hurts everyone.

Posted by: Fresh at January 06, 2013 08:34 PM (O7ksG)

438 430
I remember when clinton came to Frisco years ago...the hotel he stayed
at had a dishmachine with bacteria drapped in the sanitation end...

Posted by: Clemenza at January 06, 2013 08:25 PM (x59Gv)

Cripes, Clinton will put his dick into anything.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 08:34 PM (Zd/NW)

439 You know I think we need to dump CBD as a Open-blogger,

He
is just way to responsive to the hoard on his threads. I mean c'mon,
where's the distant aloofness I've come to expect from the HQ .

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 08:12 PM

I assume that you somehow miss DrewM's threads

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:34 PM (wwsoB)

440 >>>"Do you want Yellow Tail with your In n Out?"

May I sniff the cap? It's aluminum, no?

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 08:35 PM (w3+gB)

441 "Do you want Yellow Tail with your In n Out?"

"Me love you long time Me so horny"
http://tinyurl.com/aa38fqb

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 08:36 PM (qo244)

442 Man oh man, I miss Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr., Inn n Out, Fatburgers. And the Sommeliers never gave me an attitude.


Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 08:32 PM

Did you ever stop at the Carl's Jr at San Fernando and Los Feliz in Glendale? They closed it, but before they did the staff would take forever to bring your food even when the place was empty, and then there was the appetizing experience of having your arms stick to the table.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:37 PM (wwsoB)

443 Additionally, the post implied it was a "prevalence"
not a rule, with today's wait staff, so it must have hit pretty close
to the mark to get you pissed off enough to spew out your lack of
reading comprehension to also see people are only posting here about
their disgust with some people not properly doing their job. If you were
doing your job properly you would agree and say, yeah, i see this too."

No, I do not act like a jaded stuckup jackass. I'm humble and very
gracious towards our customers. I take great pride in making sure our
guests leave with an amazing experience.

I would agree that it looks bad on us when others aren't properly doing their jobs.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 08:01 PM (3YN0H)

A Juiceboxer bring bottles of juice to people.

Do you recommend the Capri Sun or the Juicy Juice?

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 08:38 PM (Zd/NW)

444 hey, I'm here what did I miss

when is the ONT?


That is where I really shine



Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 08:39 PM (jfSqj)

445 miss DrewM's threads>>

Come on "Miss DrewM" that's kinda harsh isn't it?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 08:39 PM (qo244)

446 >>>Did you ever stop at the Carl's Jr at San Fernando and Los Feliz in
Glendale? They closed it, but before they did the staff would take
forever to bring your food even when the place was empty, and then there
was the appetizing experience of having your arms stick to the table.

No, if I wanted that experience I'd go to King Taco. Best tacos for the money you didn't have to make yourself.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 08:40 PM (w3+gB)

447 well so much for an anon stinky sock


Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 08:40 PM (jfSqj)

448
>>When I was bar tending, the thing that absolutely surprised me the most were the wives(girlfriends?) that would wait till their husband started walking toward the door then quickly scoop the tip off the table and dump it in their purse.

I had a gal I'd just met scoop up my change (ca. $15), after spending the evening talking about how little money she had.

Adios, sister. And thanks for the warning.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:40 PM (DXlwL)

449 431
Just ate two Jack in the Box Bacon Cheeseburgers. I actually could feel
the cholesterol rushing to my eyes, what the hell is wrong with Jack in
the Box, do they soak everything in lard, including the bacon, then fry
it in peanut oil?

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 08:26 PM

Always called it "Crap in a Box" when I lived in L.A.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:41 PM (wwsoB)

450 444

someone having a meltdown

Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 08:41 PM (GVxQo)

451 Check out http://waiterrant.net, a blog by a real (professional) waiter who has since wrote a book. There's a difference between actor-wannabes just waiting tables "temporarily" (even if temporarily = 10 years and counting) and waiters that take the job seriously, old-school style. There's actually decent money to be made by a good waiter in a good restaurant who knows his job.

Despite arguments to the contrary, I have NO problem leaving zero tip for really bad service. Worst case scenario, I might even leave a copy of the Want Ads instead of a tip.

That said, it's not fair to penalize a waiter for things out of his control such as the quality of the food. I reward based on what the waiter is directly responsible for. I grade on the curve, taking into account how busy the place is and the complexity of my order. However, I don't like being discriminated against for being a single diner and getting short-shrift as a result. If I get treated right, I'll make up for the small bill with a generous tip.

Posted by: Moron Labe! at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM (ZfBzk)

452 Otay!

Posted by: Gerry at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM (bc649)

453 "Do you want Yellow Tail with your In n Out?"

White Castle was experimenting with offering beer and wine in some Indiana stores. Don't know how that turned out...nothing pairs well with food that smells like cat vomit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM (hO8IJ)

454 Thou shall not stab waiter in eye with the spork.

The book of Steve: Verse 1/3

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 08:43 PM (obHYs)

455 Does anyone else resent this bullshit of waiters expecting 10 15 20 25%? WTF? The price of the meal has gone up,assholes, and so the tip would too, in absolute terms. No need to get greedy and try for a higher percentage too. I'm not taking your ass in to raise.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:43 PM (DXlwL)

456 Worst service ever: big Las Vegas casinos. On more than one occasion (it wasn't a fluke), I've sat and been totally ignored to the point that I ended up walking out before ordering. I've literally sat for the better part of half an hour while the waiter(s) walk by multiple times without even a head nod or apology for being busy.

Posted by: Moron Labe! at January 06, 2013 08:44 PM (ZfBzk)

457 Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 08:41 PM (GVxQo)


nope


but but I plan on mocking Ms. Warren and the broom she rides around on for the next 6 years


her photo should be in the dictionary next to Liberal with a Cement Head





Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 08:45 PM (jfSqj)

458 White Castle was experimenting with offering beer
and wine in some Indiana stores. Don't know how that turned
out...nothing pairs well with food that smells like cat vomit.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM

Perhaps they figure if you get drunk enough you won't even taste the ratburgers.

BTW, belated Happy Birthday to you

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:45 PM (wwsoB)

459 @444

I think your name is going to cause years of therapy.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 08:46 PM (obHYs)

460 Within a few points of error; 1/3 of people tip well -regardless of service, 1/3 tip poorly, regardless of service, and 1/3base their tipon their service.

Some servers will bust their ass for all customers, but some realize it's easier to be lazy when it doesn't effect 2/3rds of your tips.

Posted by: Icedog at January 06, 2013 08:46 PM (PTS+l)

461 kbdabear--thanks

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:46 PM (hO8IJ)

462 How were either one of these games "wild"?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 08:47 PM (MPjT8)

463 456
Worst service ever: big Las Vegas casinos. On more than one occasion
(it wasn't a fluke), I've sat and been totally ignored to the point that
I ended up walking out before ordering. I've literally sat for the
better part of half an hour while the waiter(s) walk by multiple times
without even a head nod or apology for being busy.

Posted by: Moron Labe! at January 06, 2013 08:44 PM

The town will never be the same. After the Tangiers, the big corporations took it all over. Today it looks like Disneyland. And while the kids play cardboard pirates, Mommy and Daddy drop the house payments and Junior's college money on the poker slots. In the old days, dealers knew your name, what you drank, what you played. Today, it's like checkin' into an airport. And if you order room service, you're lucky if you get it by Thursday. Today, it's all gone. You get a whale show up with four million in a suitcase, and some twenty-five-year-old hotel school kid is gonna want his Social Security Number.

Posted by: Ace Rothstein at January 06, 2013 08:47 PM (wwsoB)

464 247
Holy shit, some of the smug and ridiculous comments here are mind
blowing. I work as a Sommelier, take my job seriously and do my best to
be professional at all times. Some of you people are the reason why
those of us in the Service industry become so jaded. You treat us like
second hand citizens and have unwordly expectations. To you I say fuck
you and you're snobby ilk.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 07:20 PM (0V8v0)

Ahhaahh!one of those wine sniffing snobby little pricks. Check.


Posted by: exsanguine at January 06, 2013 08:48 PM (O/2PH)

465 Hrm, so what is standard tipping % for your locales?

Got chided by a coworker once for leaving a 15% tip (at a ski resort with overpriced food). Curious what is considered fair for standard service.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (7um7O)

466
458White Castle was experimenting with offering beer
and wine in some Indiana stores.



Upper management figured that if you had to get drunk in order to eat them, might as well get snokered at their store!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (b1VIZ)

467 Gah!!!

I am thinking of having these Jack in the Box Bacon Cheeseburgers surgically removed. Like I swallowed polonium or an asbestos brick soaked in road tar.

Posted by: Jehu at January 06, 2013 08:50 PM (cSD32)

468 453
"Do you want Yellow Tail with your In n Out?"

White Castle
was experimenting with offering beer and wine in some Indiana stores.
Don't know how that turned out...nothing pairs well with food that
smells like cat vomit.


If it doesn't smell like food, you're not drunk enough for White Castle. Seems like a smart business plan to try to help those customers who were not in-the-know enough to tank up before entering the place.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 08:50 PM (2IW5Q)

469 457 elizabeth warren


no, i was answering your question of 'what did you miss'

Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 08:51 PM (GVxQo)

470
@kbdabear

DrewM has a habit of posting while I'm at work and thus I don't get to read many of his comments .
(Also I'm not sure I would call that "engaging" the horde.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 08:51 PM (GaqMa)

471 I remember my first date, my first fuck...

You told me I'd only Take Five.

Posted by: Gloria Steinem at January 06, 2013 08:51 PM (qaVK+)

472 White Castle - "Come for the cheap beer. Get killed by the cheap burgers."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 08:52 PM (HXcdb)

473 "There's a difference between actor-wannabes just waiting tables
"temporarily" (even if temporarily = 10 years and counting) and waiters
that take the job seriously, old-school style. There's actually decent
money to be made by a good waiter in a good restaurant who knows his
job."

I remember eating at some swanky place in Chicago about ten years ago, a place with a different guy for your salad, salt and pepper, wine, etc. That's the one thing I noticed, to these people it wasn't just a job but a career. Don't think a one of them was under thirty. Of course the bill for the two of us pretty much shot a hundred dollar bill.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 08:52 PM (GZitp)

474 Speak with a Canadian accent and you can be cheap tipping. Waiters/waitresses all know Canadians are notoriously low tippers.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 08:53 PM (iHs4Z)

475 "Got chided by a coworker once for leaving a 15% tip"

There's nothing wrong with 15% anywhere.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 08:54 PM (GZitp)

476 Saw The Redhead on Diners Drive-ins & Dives once. Would drive all the way to NY for those pretzels - they look insanely good!!

Posted by: Adlib421 at January 06, 2013 08:55 PM (tGEIz)

477 Some guys stop at White Castle on a date because the girl will give him a blowjob just to get the taste of the burger out of her mouth.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 08:56 PM (wwsoB)

478
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (7um7O)

I've always felt 15% is standard, for exceptional service 20%. Sometimes if I'm sufficiently tanked and service was really good (hence the tanked part) I'll make up a number that's higher. But I think only once I've hit 25% (and that was an exception where we had great service and the waitress helped us with my wife's disabled mom.)
Bar service gets treated a bit differently. It's usually $1/beer at the brewpubs I hit up.

When I go out with my Liberal leaning friends they balk at anything less than 20% regardless of service. I think they once got as high as a 30% tip. Once I had miserable service I wrote down $0.01 for tip and the libs actually put in the difference. (Seriously.)
(My Blue Dog friend once joined me in writing $0.01 after a miserable meal at a resturant near the Seattle Convention center, where the food took forever to come, we had to send my wife's back and the waitress didn't even know the beer list...at a place called the "TapHouse." The manager was inconsiderate, so we wrote a note to telling him we were pissed.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 08:56 PM (GaqMa)

479
Got chided by a coworker once for leaving a 15% tip (at a ski resort with overpriced food). Curious what is considered fair for standard service.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 06, 2013 08:49 PM (7um7O)


Tell your coworker to go fuck him/herself. Problem solved. 15% is perfectly reasonable.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:57 PM (DXlwL)

480
White Castle was experimenting with offering
beer and wine in some Indiana stores. Don't know how that turned
out...nothing pairs well with food that smells like cat vomit.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 06, 2013 08:42 PM (hO8IJ)

Would you like some Ernest and Julio Gallo Red with you "Little Friskies' Repeat"?

Posted by: LivingFreeDaSommelier at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (Zd/NW)

481 A Juiceboxer bring bottles of juice to people.

Do you recommend the Capri Sun or the Juicy Juice?


Posted by: MrCaniac at January 06, 2013 08:38 PM (Zd/NW)
Very nice!! Back to "lurkerville" I go. Enjoy the rest of your weekend Horde!!

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 08:59 PM (3YN0H)

482 big service you're providing as a sommelier...whoopdy fucking doo.......btw unless you are certified, you're not really one.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 09:00 PM (GVxQo)

483 "big service you're providing as a sommelier...whoopdy fucking doo.......btw unless you are certified, you're not really one....."


I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM (3YN0H)

484 Tell your coworker to go fuck him/herself. Problem solved. 15% is perfectly reasonable.Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 06, 2013 08:57 PM (DXlwL)The one good thing Europe has is a decent idea of tipping. In parts of Spain at least it's more or less an insult to the owner (claiming you don't pay the wait staff enough.)5% might be acceptable for really good service. But they have an idea of a professional waitstaff (not just college drop outs passing the time.)There are exceptions (Baristas in places like the train station, where getting your coffee quickly matters.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM (GaqMa)

485 "lurkerville" Is that near Luckenbach and did Waylon do a song about it?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM (qo244)

486 /sniffs the thread

...ew.

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Amazing Ampersands at January 06, 2013 09:03 PM (mbxHg)

487 Very nice!! Back to "lurkerville" I go.

Okay, now I feel a little bad. Sorry, guy, sometimes we're a bit rough on noobs around here.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 09:03 PM (6TB1Z)

488 When did all the oenophiles show up here?

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 09:03 PM (BzGtc)

489 @485

It's about 20 miles east of Parts Unknown.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 06, 2013 09:04 PM (obHYs)

490 I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers.

Seriously? There's an Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers?

I'm such a peasant.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM (QupBk)

491 Oh Brother Cavil doth thou whiff however faintly the odour of sour whine?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM (HXcdb)

492 I can put up with pretty much any problem at a restarant---except 'tude.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM (MPjT8)

493 I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!


Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM

I'm advanced level 5 on "Call Of Duty", so THERE !!!

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM (wwsoB)

494 I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!>>

Does that mean you have the Champagne cutlass?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM (qo244)

495 I'm happy to remain a gourmand.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:06 PM (QupBk)

496 I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!


Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 09:06 PM (wwsoB)

497 "I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers."

Wow, you sat through a dozen night classes and took a test. Let the worshiping begin.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 09:07 PM (GZitp)

498 Does that mean you have the Champagne cutlass?


Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:05 PM

I had an Olds Cutlass once

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at January 06, 2013 09:08 PM (wwsoB)

499 I gotta say it. Still reeling from the tough Redskin loss. To get smacked around like that at home really hurts. I don't see anyone stopping Seattle.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 06, 2013 09:08 PM (jucos)

500 and it's a real thing: http://is.gd/e30SnE

995 buckerenos.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:08 PM (QupBk)

501 Before tipping a bartender I watch how they're handing the cash drawer. If they're tipping themselves by stealing and not ringing up sales, operating out of drawer that's always open they ain't getting anything cuz they're stealing plenty already


Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 09:08 PM (iHs4Z)

502
I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!

I drive out to the oldest appellation zone in the US on a regular basis and chat with the wine makers.
What's you point?
(Also, I'd be curious if you can name it. Most people can't. Hint: It's not Napa.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 09:08 PM (GaqMa)

503 no, i was answering your question of 'what did you miss'
Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 08:51 PM (GVxQo)


got it sometimes a bit thick between the ears

I read that all wrong


my bad


now back to lizzy Warren,

here head is so hard her husband uses it to pound the nail in when he pits up pictures





Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's bikini line holding back the gray curlies at January 06, 2013 09:09 PM (jfSqj)

504
494I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!>>


I'm a home vitner. Ye shall carry my wine!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 09:09 PM (b1VIZ)

505 I'd guess Hudson Valley for the oldest grape ag zone in the USA.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (BzGtc)

506 Seriously, if I have to pay more than $100 for a bottle of wine, something must be wrong with my tastebuds.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (w3+gB)

507 $995 for that certification? There are IT certifications that cost less.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (HXcdb)

508 livefree

level iii, i'm impressed....there are people who call themselves sommeliers that never took a class....just like sushi chefs.....it used to mean something...now most places have "chefs" that were taught by a "friend"

Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (GVxQo)

509 Not to be confused with the Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommelier issued by Alma Scuola Cucina of Colorno (Parma) Italy.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (QupBk)

510 I had an Olds Cutlass once>>

Was the paint color Champagne? If it was I think it makes you a sommelier.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (qo244)

511 NewHampshireMotto dude. You have quickly learned that the Horde here might, and I say, JUST MIGHT, be impressed with your latest firearms purchase (since that shit is sorta important in these tumultuous times). OR, how much middle shelf scotch you can put away at once sitting.

But snobs? THAT, we ain't.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 09:11 PM (4Mv1T)

512 "I don't see anyone stopping Seattle."

I do. I don't think they make it past Atlanta but if by a miracle they do, no way they get by San Fran or Green Bay.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 09:11 PM (GZitp)

513 It's not true that Danica Patrick is going to do a strip show at halftime of the GoDaddy Bowl, is it?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 09:12 PM (MPjT8)

514
$995 for that certification?>>

That's less than the renewal paperwork for most certs.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:12 PM (qo244)

515 Y'all are just vicious btw. I'm glad I never brought up my VM/SES diploma from Hitachi.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:12 PM (QupBk)

516 Sometimes I'll tip the cashier on a pick-up pizza order.

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 06, 2013 09:12 PM (BVkEs)

517 San Fran? The Niners got their asses handed to them the last time they played the Seahawks. And that is WITH the new wunderkind QB.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2013 09:12 PM (BzGtc)

518
I'm Advanced Level 3: Court of the Crimson King


Aaaaaaaaaaaaah aaaaaaaaaah aaaaah aah

aaaaaaaaaaaah aaah aah!!!


Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 09:13 PM (G9qZk)

519 Seriously, if I have to pay more than $100 for a bottle of wine, something must be wrong with my tastebuds.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM (w3+gB)
There are maybe a few Ports (or Port style) wines I'd pay that much for, but that's unlikely.Given that I'm a fan of sweeter wines, I usually can find something for less than $15 bucks I like. (thank you Missouri Tradition for granting me that gift of taste)And when I'm tired of the local the Spanish Rioja imports run like $12 and are consistantly good IMHO.

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 09:13 PM (GaqMa)

520 Now I'm willing to go as high as $400 dollars for a bottle of 18 yr old scotch, but only if it includes complimentary cigars.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 09:14 PM (w3+gB)

521 510
I had an Olds Cutlass once>>

Was the paint color Champagne? If it was I think it makes you a sommelier.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:10 PM

I think they called the color "sea foam"

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at January 06, 2013 09:14 PM (wwsoB)

522 Speak with a Canadian accent and you can be cheap tipping. Waiters/waitresses all know Canadians are notoriously low tippers.


Posted by: @PurpAv at January 06, 2013 08:53 PM (iHs4Z)


Probably those worthless Quebecers and sleazy Ontarians. Being B.C. born and bred, and an Albertan by choice, I normally tip 15%, and will tip better if the service warrants it. And if the service is really lousy, I'll tip less or not at all. But rarely.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 09:14 PM (29+x5)

523 I'm a certified nut case. Didn't have to pay a cent.

Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 09:14 PM (JgkPs)

524 520
Now I'm willing to go as high as $400 dollars for a bottle of 18 yr old scotch, but only if it includes complimentary cigars.


Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2013 09:14 PM

Shit, for $400 American you can get an 18 year old call girl

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 09:15 PM (wwsoB)

525
@Toby928
Meh, that's a skill that's not based entirely on personal preference!

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 09:15 PM (GaqMa)

526 I ate at Fappelbee's today in honor of Chemjeff.

Waitress service was reasonably good. The host opened the front door for us as we approached. I thought that was nice.

Posted by: Mindy doesn't have much to contribute to the conversation at January 06, 2013 09:15 PM (3pGXY)

527 Sea foam is almost the same as INS green. And both colors look like something Ted the Swimmer would toss up after an all night bender.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:15 PM (HXcdb)

528 I've got a young friend who wants to quit his 8 year career as a teacher to be a Cisco cert guy. I told him he's crazy.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:16 PM (QupBk)

529 Saw on the local news some guy just paid $27,000 for a 50 year old bottle of Glenfiddich. Had some meaning or him and he was going to drink it. Man I wish I had that kind of cash.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:17 PM (qo244)

530 appleby's food is all made off site...just heated up there.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, it's no longer Christmas at January 06, 2013 09:17 PM (GVxQo)

531 Used to have to travel to NYC quite frequently 10 or 15 years ago. The only places I liked were Peter Lugars and an Italian joint in Astoria called LoPiccolos (sp). Other than that it was the shuttle from LaGuardia to the Marriot and back. Usually couldn't leave quick enough. Everyplace smelled of Urine and Diesel.

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 09:17 PM (dmEoV)

532 Kent State denied on a wild interception. Touchback.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:17 PM (QupBk)

533
I'm Advanced Level 3: Court Of Master Sommeliers. Pile on with more snark!!


Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 06, 2013 09:02 PM (3YN0H)

I'm still waiting on my martini and scotch. Now run along little fellow and get my drinks.
You are a wine waiter, period. There is no difference between you and a cocktail waitress, except that the cocktail waitress brings my drinks without any attitude and doesn't mind me pinching her ass.
There would be no sommeliers, but some owner or manager got snookered by the wine distributor to buy some overpriced grape juice. Panic sets in, owner/manager hires some hipster douche to be the establishment's "sommelier", then said sommelier goes out and tries to sell the overpriced shit to customers who eat that kind of shit up.
Do you recommend the Capri Sun or the Juicy Juice?

Posted by: MrCaniac, getting impatient at January 06, 2013 09:17 PM (Zd/NW)

534 Pet Peeve: Waitresses whosay "you guys". Way too familiar. What ever happened to "ma'am" and "sir". Or "evening, folks."

Posted by: ALH at January 06, 2013 09:18 PM (eqV3Q)

535
appleby's food is all made off site
===
at Ruby Tuesdays?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 09:18 PM (MPjT8)

536 $27k for a bottle? Hey OWS/FSA crowd there you go someone to be jealous of.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:18 PM (HXcdb)

537 Here's a secret, none of us in the service industry want to be where we are. Modern service wages are inadequate to support a single person independently, let alone a family. Because of that, morale issues are baked into the cake already, and thanks to the Obama economy, most of us don't have other employment options except the dole, but least we're still working.

Does that excuse truly lousy service? Not entirely. There are genuinely bad service employees all across the country. It's our job to provide service, and I try to joke and smile when I get off to a bad start with someone, but you can't win them all. You can't even win most of them anymore.

Y'know how we often talk about the breakdown of society? Your server, cashier, etc. has a front-row seat to the decline of Western civilization. They're abused by at least a dozen people a day who mistake the word service for servants, and who truly believe that "The Customer Is Always Right" is the 1st Commandment. Being truly happy in such an environment is a sign of a dangerous mental condition.

But we try to humor you. Even when you ask if anything is free (air sandwich), or tell us "I just made it" when we check your 100$ bill. But really, in general, Customers are great. Every transaction we oversee accounts for a tiny, infinitesimal percentage of our inadequate paychecks.

Keeping good customers is essential, interacting with them keeps your business afloat, brings in money, and can even make work seem less like work. Keeping raging a-holes that harass your staff, waste as much time as humanly possible, and make expensive demands is not essential, it's a good way to run yourself out of business.

Bad customers drive away good customers. Don't believe me? Ever seen someone abandon a cart at Wal-Mart because the woman in front of him had four transactions, one cash, one EBT, one credit, one check, and about 50 coupons? I've left several for that reason.

In short, we're all human. Your server might be a royal douche. Or maybe your cashier just rang up a food stamp order for more than he'll bring home today and is wondering why he still bothers. Something to think about, anyway.

Posted by: Cato, gas clerk from Hell at January 06, 2013 09:19 PM (xFGqN)

538 Pet Peeve: Waitresses whosay "you guys". Way too familiar. What ever happened to "ma'am" and "sir". Or "evening, folks."Posted by: ALH at January 06, 2013 09:18 PM (eqV3Q)That last time that happened to me, the waitress also brought out our standard appetizer and wine order when she came over.The wife and I were so embarassed we actually never went back! (The worst part was, we didn't go there all to often, but it was like 3 weeks in a row and we got the same waitress all three weeks, and basically ordered the same thing.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 09:19 PM (GaqMa)

539 Mobile gets two bowel games. The GoDaddy Bowl and the Senior Bowl.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:20 PM (QupBk)

540 Uh, no. I've waited tables. It's the customers that break the will of the server, not the other way around. Can't tell you how many times I've been stiffed after giving amazing service. The best are the folks who give you a little note that says they "don't believe in tipping."

Posted by: John the Libertarian at January 06, 2013 09:21 PM (X5Zkj)

541 Was at Olive Garden once and watched some lady change a shitty infant in the booth. After she left, the waitress wiped the booth, then the table using the same rag.

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 09:22 PM (dmEoV)

542 The Senior Bowl is the better of the two, btw. Seniors trying to impress the NFL scouts.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:22 PM (QupBk)

543 Nice: Inmates using newspaper's gun owner map to threaten guards, sheriff says (Fox News)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bdyol94

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 09:23 PM (qw+yV)

544 526
I ate at Fappelbee's today in honor of Chemjeff.



Waitress service was reasonably good. The host opened the front door for us as we approached. I thought that was nice.

Posted by: Mindy doesn't have much to contribute to the conversation at January 06, 2013 09:15 PM (3pGXY)

Did the sommelier recommend the White Peach Sangria?

Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 09:23 PM (Zd/NW)

545 541
Was at Olive Garden once and watched some lady change a shitty infant in
the booth. After she left, the waitress wiped the booth, then the table
using the same rag.


Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 09:22 PM

I wiped at booth in Reno, just to watch them die

Posted by: Olive Garden waitress at January 06, 2013 09:23 PM (wwsoB)

546
Posted by: Cato, gas clerk from Hell at January 06, 2013 09:19 PM (xFGqN)

There's an implication here that none of us have ever worked service.
I spent 5 years at a McD's and I know serveral others of the horde have done everything from tend bard to pickup garbage.
We recognize that all that, but we also know that sometimes you gotta soldier on. I got a friend who works at Bed Bath and Beyond, he doesn't want to be there, but it pays the bills. He puts on a happy face and tries not to scream at the old ladies. It's just what you do. Yeah we all have an off day, but usually that's when it's time for a manager to step in and say "Ok, great, time for you to go work in the back." (Been there, done that, learned my lesson.)

Posted by: tsrblke at January 06, 2013 09:24 PM (GaqMa)

547 They're abused by at least a dozen people a day who
mistake the word service for servants

Posted by: Cato, gas clerk from Hell at January 06, 2013 09:19 PM (xFGqN)

EXACTLY. It's amazing the abuse you take with a smile on your face. People come into restaurants on power trips.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at January 06, 2013 09:24 PM (X5Zkj)

548 The $27K scotch was sold to a guy in Salem but the local affiliate ran it here.

http://tinyurl.com/bfpt2t4

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:24 PM (qo244)

549 It's her!!!! The Bitch in Black!!!!!!!

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 09:25 PM (dmEoV)

550 537
In short, we're all human. Your server might be a royal douche. Or
maybe your cashier just rang up a food stamp order for more than he'll
bring home today and is wondering why he still bothers. Something to
think about, anyway.


That was good stuff. I hear you, and I sympathize. Anyone dealing with the general public is in an acting job, whether they know it or not. It is fair for a reasonable customer to not expect to be punished because some other customer was just a douche. It is human nature to get angry when dealing with douches. It falls to people who have to deal with the public to make that transition, from dealing with the douchy to dealing with well-brought-up human beings, gracefully and invisibly. Not easy. But it seems undeniable that it is part of what the job requires. That's where the acting comes in.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 09:25 PM (2IW5Q)

551 At a Perkins once saw some little kid playing with the squeeze ketchup bottle and licking all over the lid and opening.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 09:25 PM (MPjT8)

552 Uh, no. I've waited tables. It's the customers that
break the will of the server, not the other way around. Can't tell you
how many times I've been stiffed after giving amazing service. The best
are the folks who give you a little note that says they "don't believe
in tipping."


Posted by: John the Libertarian at January 06, 2013 09:21 PM (X5Zkj)

Dollars to donuts, the ones that "don't believe in tipping" are leftists.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 09:25 PM (29+x5)

553 541 Was at Olive Garden once and watched some lady change a shitty infant in the booth. After she left, the waitress wiped the booth, then the table using the same rag.
Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 09:22 PM (dmEoV)
---

Oh come on man! I draw the line at shitty infant changing. I'd have gone to the manager well before the OG waitress had the chance to wash the table, i.e. during commission of infant deshittery which is a flagrant violation of public decency!

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 09:25 PM (qw+yV)

554 I can see the Atlanta Falcons stopping Seattle. Maybe.

Posted by: Mister Christopher at January 06, 2013 09:26 PM (DQhAB)

555 545
I wiped at booth in Reno, just to watch them die


That was seriously awesome.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 09:26 PM (2IW5Q)

556
We used to have a regular who came in alone near closing time at the old Hacienda and always made the same waitress stay late.

When it was discovered by the cleaning crew what he was doing in that corner booth, she never had to stay late for him again.

Gross.

Posted by: Justamom at January 06, 2013 09:27 PM (Sptt8)

557 Dollars to donuts, the ones that "don't believe in tipping" are leftists.

Most likely people who have never been servers themselves. Mrs928 worked as a waitress during college and she has stories to tell. And she tips big.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:27 PM (QupBk)

558 "don't believe in tipping."

Yeah that's pretty freak'n weird.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 06, 2013 09:27 PM (GZitp)

559 555 545
No Shit!

Posted by: owlpellets at January 06, 2013 09:28 PM (dmEoV)

560 Well, I'm in for a hit and run, but on topic, its because you're in New York. That place is a shithole that has lost it's 9/11 "glow" and it's people fucking suck. Last time I was in that REGION, it sucked ass. The people are angry, uptight, selfish and could give a FUCK about you, regardless of their job or requirement to make you feel comfortable.


Posted by: © Sponge at January 06, 2013 09:28 PM (sw9Vn)

561 Did the sommelier recommend the White Peach Sangria?
Posted by: MrCaniac, at January 06, 2013 09:23 PM (Zd/NW)

Sounds tasty!

Posted by: Mindy doesn't have much to contribute to the conversation at January 06, 2013 09:28 PM (3pGXY)

562 Anyone that has ever worked in the service industry had the pleasure of working with dicks (tips or not). It's why you get an education and move on to working for a single dick you deal with 100% of the time.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 06, 2013 09:28 PM (qo244)

563 556

When it was discovered by the cleaning crew what he was doing in that corner booth, she never had to stay late for him again.


Part of me wants to know, and another part definitely doesn't want to know. I think the part that doesn't want to know is smarter.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 09:28 PM (2IW5Q)

564 commission of infant deshittery which is a flagrant violation of public decency!

That's loss of down at the spot of the foul, right?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:29 PM (QupBk)

565 Not easy. But it seems undeniable that it is part of what the job requires. That's where the acting comes in.

And ironically, many waiters are aspiring actors, yet they lack the chops, or more accurately, the interest, to pull it off. I'll pay you if the service is good, but many people waiting tables seem to think they're too good for the job. If so, I have a way to express my displeasure.

Like I said earlier, I've done the job, and I have no patience for those who don't want to hustle.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2013 09:29 PM (6TB1Z)

566 Just got back from dinner. Food was good, service was excellent. Waitress even took a little good natured ribbing about her unusual name, which earned her an extra percentage point on her tip.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 06, 2013 09:30 PM (xKC/c)

567 CBD kill the blog?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 09:30 PM (GEICT)

568 It's why you get an education and move on to working for a single dick you deal with 100% of the time. building a business and working for yourself.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 09:31 PM (b1VIZ)

569 >>>It's why you get an education and move on to working for a single dick you deal with 100% of the time.

And finally, on to self-employment. I never get mad at the guy who makes all the mistakes anymore, 'cause it's usually me.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 09:31 PM (4Mv1T)

570 In tech support we call the happy face killing them with kindness. Even as they are screaming the computer is a POS and they can't get to FB because you are such an incompetent hack who should be fired. Been there. Stood on my head. And still resolved the issue. Which has its own curse, word gets around the company you fix things and....*shudder*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:32 PM (HXcdb)

571 /recovers

...whew. That was bad. Surely there's a fresh...thread...

/overcome once more

Posted by: Brother Cavil and his Amazing Ampersands at January 06, 2013 09:32 PM (mbxHg)

572 yea, what 568 said, and shit

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 09:32 PM (4Mv1T)

573 All us moronettes are watching Downton Abbey.

Posted by: Palandine at January 06, 2013 09:33 PM (g7D8V)

574 Or maybe your cashier just rang up a food stamp order for more than he'll bring home today and is wondering why he still bothers. Something to think about, anyway.
This.pisses.me.off. Standing in the checkout line at the grocery store behind someone purchasing steaks and perrier with an ebt card. Usually female with an expensive manicure.

Posted by: ALH at January 06, 2013 09:33 PM (eqV3Q)

575 In tech support we call the happy face killing them with kindness.

I have the knack for dealing with users, which is rare in the old introverted world of systems guys. Even when the problem is clearly pilot error, always give the customer an out. Blame the software or management.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:34 PM (QupBk)

576 Holy crap the comments Here are hilarious!

Posted by: Tango United at January 06, 2013 09:34 PM (7h71Q)

577 The first and most important part of the act is making it seem like being there doesn't rub you raw on a fundamental level (seriously, this is the best I can do?). Once you've got that down, you have to seem like a natural human being in spite of it, and put up with a society that has a severely imbalanced chaff/wheat ratio. If you can pull that off, you're an actor, even if Hollywood has never heard of you.

Posted by: Cato at January 06, 2013 09:35 PM (xFGqN)

578 I tip between 15 and 25% in whole dollar amounts. It all depends on the math and what they charge me beyond the entree.

Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 09:35 PM (VMcEw)

579 Especially management. Oh yeah, it would be better if it worked that way but management said no, so whatcha gonna do.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:36 PM (QupBk)

580 Posted by: owl pellets
at January 06, 2013 09:22 PM (dmEoV

Thanks for that one, I'll never go to an Olive Garden!

Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 09:37 PM (z4WKX)

581 All jobs that deal with the public are a performance. Boy928 always looks like he is having the time of his life when he plays a gig. He told me that he couldn't expect the customers to have a good time if it looked like he wasn't.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:37 PM (QupBk)

582 560
Well, I'm in for a hit and run, but on topic, its because you're in New
York. That place is a shithole that has lost it's 9/11 "glow" and it's
people fucking suck. Last time I was in that REGION, it sucked ass. The
people are angry, uptight, selfish and could give a FUCK about you,
regardless of their job or requirement to make you feel comfortable.


I dunno. New York City, and I assume you're talking about the City, has its own way of looking at things, and if you haven't grokked it, it can look perverse. I'm not trying to feed you a shit sandwich or anything, but the City can be pretty lovable. The rudeness is just how they do business, they don't mean anything by it. In a way, it's an expression of a freedom ideology: you take care of your crap, I take care of mine, and so on. Adjust to that, and it turns out that New Yorkers are actually pretty friendly. Certainly compared to people in California, where I now live.

As so often, a cartoonist expressed it best. A Callahan comic about "The difference between New York and LA" has two panels. In the first, a New Yorker is saying "Fuck You!" and thinking "Have a nice day". In the second, a Los Angelite is saying "Have a nice day" and thinking "Fuck You!"

The time I've spent in both places has convinced me that this is much more truth than joke.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 09:38 PM (2IW5Q)

583
I worked my way through college in restaurants, on the six year plan. I was an excellent waitress if I do say so myself.

Dealing with all the asswipes prepared me well for sales and marketing. Half the asswipes worked with me, or against me as the case was.

I always tell the server everything I'm going to require clearly and tip well upon delivery. If mistakes are on the part of the house I don't take it out on the server.

Now that I have shared my drivel there will be a new thread up ASAP.

Posted by: Justamom at January 06, 2013 09:39 PM (Sptt8)

584 Education doesn't mean what it used to. I have a 2 year degree in health service admin and can't find work because I graduated right as the Supreme Court decided it was going to hear Obamacare. The hiring freeze is ongoing...

Posted by: Cato at January 06, 2013 09:39 PM (xFGqN)

585 I just got an email announcing that a Brew Pub opened in my town tonight. Like three blocks from my house. I had no idea.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:40 PM (QupBk)

586 And they will be open for the BCS game tomorrow.

Hmm.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:41 PM (QupBk)

587 Toby, I would be down there asking them how many beers they pay to sweep floors and hose down the rest rooms.

Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 09:42 PM (VMcEw)

588
I just got an email announcing that a Brew Pub opened in my town tonight. Like three blocks from my house. I had no idea.
======
Suh-weet.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 06, 2013 09:43 PM (MPjT8)

589
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:40 PM (QupBk)



I would be divorced in less than a year. Best walk....ever try to ride a bike home from a brew pub?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 09:43 PM (b1VIZ)

590 Toby will be a WUI?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:43 PM (HXcdb)

591 I'm really surprised I don't know anything about it. It's on my street. If it's where I think it is, when I walk to work, I turn right before I would walk past it.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:44 PM (QupBk)

592 Cato at 584- This is a serious issue in this country, and you are absolutely correct.

Self-employment is not for everyone, but everyone should think about, where possible. I've placed engineers into manufacturing companies as a headhunter for nearly 25 years and I see that there is nearly no such thing as a "career" anymore. 3-5 years for the individual contributors. Maybe 18mos to 3 years for the mangers/directors/executives (all the guys with bull's-eyes on their backs)

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 09:44 PM (4Mv1T)

593 If I turn left when I leave work instead of right, I can be there in 60 seconds. I hope they have good beer then.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:45 PM (QupBk)

594 Something to enliven the Morons. If you are of age that is.
http://tinyurl.com/b9975oz

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:45 PM (HXcdb)

595 I tried to ride my motorcycle home from my freinds house one night. He wasn't brewing, but he was serving.

Posted by: Ronster at January 06, 2013 09:45 PM (JgkPs)

596 Good evening, morons!

I almost always tip 20% or more. If the service is bad I usually just don't go back to that restaurant. Sometimes I give the place a second chance if the food is really good and I think they're just having an off night. I also never send food back to the kitchen.

Posted by: not the mama at January 06, 2013 09:45 PM (kzCIn)

597 I fear I'll become Norm from Cheers.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:46 PM (QupBk)

598 TR, which industries to you target.

Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 09:47 PM (VMcEw)

599 TD Kent State.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:47 PM (QupBk)

600 Anna, I've always been a crossbow guy, but this may sway me.....


NSFW


http://tinyurl.com/az6luvv

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 09:48 PM (GEICT)

601 sTevo, ever brew a wheat beer? Me likey.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 09:48 PM (b1VIZ)

602 It's harder to self-employ when you don't have any useful training you can freelance with. All I've ever done is government work, grocery, and retail, and my degree is so far from in-demand thanks to Obamacare that it isn't even funny. I can't even mow lawns, because there's about 40,000 Mexican lawn crews in this county.

Posted by: Cato at January 06, 2013 09:49 PM (xFGqN)

603 Isn't it time for a new thread?

Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 09:49 PM (z4WKX)

604 Ah, google says the bar is one block further than I was thinking, and across the 4-lane.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:49 PM (QupBk)

605 Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 09:48 PM (GEICT)


----

Oh.... as an avid archer myself....

thats teh hawt.....

Posted by: fixeruper at January 06, 2013 09:49 PM (9MmIU)

606 Well BCochran....

If she keeps her drawstring away from sensitive areas, okay. Otherwise, ouch!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:50 PM (HXcdb)

607 CK, I only use roasted wheat, for body and flavor. My go to recipe has rye in it.

Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2013 09:51 PM (VMcEw)

608 >>and across the 4-lane.

So instead of yelling "Norm" they'll yell "Frogger" when you come in?

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 09:52 PM (SUKHu)

609 Okay this part sucks, the bar won't be opening until an hour after I get off work.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:52 PM (QupBk)

610 Anna, I've got a really good one if Miss AtC shows up on the ONT. I figure she'll like it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 09:52 PM (GEICT)

611 sTevo- For many years I was all over the board. paper, film, foils, chemicals, fibers, both glass and synthetic. The last 10 years I decided to try to play more in own back yard, which is the 3rd largest biotech hub in the US. So mostly the same kinds of engineers, but all working in a GMP, mostly biopharmaceutical mfg environment.


Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 09:52 PM (4Mv1T)

612 I may have to flex my schedule for the winter.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 09:53 PM (QupBk)

613 606
If she keeps her drawstring away from sensitive areas, okay. Otherwise, ouch!!!!


Good point. I shot some arrows in camp as a yout, and every now and then one would go all weird and everything would snap and vibrate and the arrow would sort of bail to one side or another. Presumably topless chick archers know how to not make that happen.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2013 09:53 PM (2IW5Q)

614 Just watch Restaurant Steakout on the Food Network. You'll see the typical wait staff at any given restaurant in the north east.

Embarrassing. The Entitlement Generation is ruining it for everyone.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 06, 2013 09:54 PM (sw9Vn)

615
"Oh, the waiters are unique in their own ways…with a fascinating collection of tattoos, piercings, odd haircuts, ripped shirts, pants around their thighs, pendulous breasts untethered by anything so pedestrian as a bra, ultra-cool facial hair......."

But these are the things that give young people a sense of individuality, just like the rest of their hideously tatted and pierced annoying as fuck hipster generation.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at January 06, 2013 09:55 PM (8cOY0)

616 BCochran, so what did you think of the C7 Corvette?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:55 PM (HXcdb)

617 I know the Horde is always up for "gun stuff."


Nature's Brass Catcher


http://tinyurl.com/arfgkz9

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 09:55 PM (GEICT)

618 Anna Puma says>Which has its own curse, word gets around the company you fix things and....*shudder*

Yep. I'm a Sr. Network Engineer. That means I'm not *supposed* to work on end user issues unless it gets escalated through 3 tiers of support to get to me. Yet, once word got out that I fix shit on a regular basis, I get at least 3-4 direct calls a day for help. I actually love helping people, but these folks don't realize that I have projects I'm accountable for as well and I can't get them done if I'm helping them figure out that their mouse doesn't work and they need a new one.....

Posted by: DanInMN at January 06, 2013 09:56 PM (khf9A)

619 ..... Best walk....ever try to ride a bike home from a brew pub?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 09:43 PM (b1VIZ)
-----
A guy I used to work with got multiple busts for DWI and the local cops watched him like a hawk because of his habit of "borrowing" the car from his hippy neighbor (hippy always left the keys in the ignition). They finally busted him for drunk bicycling on a NJ state highway which evidently was enough reason to earn him a 3rd DWI.

Posted by: Kevin at January 06, 2013 09:56 PM (0K4Xj)

620 616 BCochran, so what did you think of the C7 Corvette?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:55 PM (HXcdb)



Meh. Like everyone else, it looks too much like the Camaro (which I love). I'm actually a fan of the early 70s style "Stingray" Corvettes. They just looked mean and fast sitting there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 09:57 PM (GEICT)

621 We've been forsaken.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 06, 2013 09:58 PM (qw+yV)

622 I guess most of the official cob-loggers with the keys are drowning their strong emotions in beer because their teams won or lost.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:59 PM (HXcdb)

623 Point of order. Stingrays are C2 'vettes. I believe 62-67.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 10:00 PM (4Mv1T)

624 If I wasn't already in my pj's, I'd walk down to the bar.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 10:00 PM (QupBk)

625 Yes BCochran. Styling is a mess. And apparently their 5 years in development engine has issues, so will use the C6 motor. To quote far too many Star Wars characters, "I have a bad feeling about this."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 10:00 PM (HXcdb)

626 62 production, 63 model year, that is.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 10:01 PM (4Mv1T)

627
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 10:00 PM (QupBk)


Sit at the bar and the bartender won't know what your wearing.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2013 10:01 PM (b1VIZ)

628 I'm 110% sure that CBD is keeping others from putting up a new post so he can brag about how many comments he got on his thread.

Posted by: Mama AJ, trouble maker at January 06, 2013 10:02 PM (SUKHu)

629 And get enough in you, you won't remember what you are wearing either.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 10:02 PM (HXcdb)

630 I want my Ohhhh Ennnn Teeeeeeeee

Posted by: Dire Straits at January 06, 2013 10:06 PM (wwsoB)

631 Re: Stingrays. I stand corrected, and even denounce myself.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 06, 2013 10:06 PM (4Mv1T)

632 Anna & Alex TC- I enjoy going out to lunch almost every day, by myself too, because I don't cook much at home and it's better to go out, at least for me and eat something light when I come home. You are both right, if you are a regular the waiters know you, take good care of you, etc.
I like being away from people at work, and reading my email and the site while I wait and eat.

Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 10:06 PM (z4WKX)

633 TD Ark State

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 06, 2013 10:08 PM (QupBk)

634 Posted by: Dire Straits at January 06, 2013 10:06 PM (wwsoB)

I too want The ONT. This has been one very long thread. It's past ten, we need a new thread.

Mama AJ, I agree CBD is holding things up.

Posted by: CarolT at January 06, 2013 10:10 PM (z4WKX)

635 >> like being away from people at work, and reading my email and the site while I wait and eat.

Reminds me of my mom getting a car with a sunroof so she could eat lunch in the car with light coming in!

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 10:10 PM (SUKHu)

636 Tobacco, your point of order is incorrect. 69 through 76 Corvettes (most of C3) were referred to as "Stingrays".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette


Check out the 5th paragraph of the C3 section.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 06, 2013 10:11 PM (GEICT)

637
My first job was in fast food and then through college as a waitress in nice joints and some bad ones,
This experience should be a good learning lesson on how to be a good customer/ I tip minimum 20% even if they are having a bad night. This is along they keep a good attitude and are attentive. don't blame thr waiter/ess for the fuckups in the kitchen

Posted by: Cheri at January 06, 2013 10:11 PM (EAgmr)

638 There it is...which means I gotta get the kids in bed...night all...

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 06, 2013 10:11 PM (SUKHu)

639 ONT is up

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2013 10:16 PM (wwsoB)

640 The C4 Vettes all got made into car bombs, I take it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 10:17 PM (29+x5)

641 In tech support we call the happy face killing them with kindness. Even as they are screaming the computer is a POS and they can't get to FB because you are such an incompetent hack who should be fired. Been there. Stood on my head. And still resolved the issue. Which has its own curse, word gets around the company you fix things and....*shudder*
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 06, 2013 09:32 PM (HXcdbAnother techie. What company?

Posted by: MidwesterbSceptic at January 06, 2013 10:27 PM (cxl8k)

642
well, have not seen this posted
here in the south ( from the servers side)
working the sunday lunch crowd, after church....WORST tippers ever
even seen some folks leave bible tracts as a tip

Posted by: rain of lead at January 06, 2013 10:32 PM (uY3gJ)

643 The asshole has no shame.
Posted by: Long Island at January 06, 2013 06:01 PM (hl8SI)

He's running for mayor of NYC?

Posted by: Caustic at January 06, 2013 10:54 PM (/b8+5)

644 The one thing that bugs me here is the waiter/ress who decides they're gonna be your new best buddy, coming by every five seconds asking you if the food is great.

It's annoying as hell. Just serve me my food and watch to see if I need more water or another drink. I don't need a new best friend.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2013 06:21 PM (G9qZk)



Yeah, I hate that too... and it's even worse when they do that while barely paying attention to your answers. It just ends up being constant interruptions for no reason.

It's not always the waiters that do this either... I remember being someplace and having the chef himself come out to check on his with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. We were seated in the non-smoking section. I'm not one of these freaks that wants to ban smoking from everywhere, but if I'm sitting in the non-smoking section I kind of expect not to have a fucking douchebag standing over my shoulder blowing smoke on my food, you know?

Other than the shitty service, the food there was actually pretty good.

Posted by: Crazy Bald Guy at January 06, 2013 11:07 PM (8ltUk)

645 373 Last year, we decided to do the family night thing at Ruth's Cris Steakhouse.
And we had to explain to at that time 13 year old Little VIA that there was a serious dress code, and he needed to dress accordingly.
We get to the restaurant, and right there in the lobby is the dress code, on a big sandwich board. And I point to the code, and explain that it was important that we dress properly.
And the manager chimes in with how he denies entry to people ho do not meet the dress code.
And we all set down to eat.
And in comes the people wearing cut offs, and flip flops, and all the other styles that do not meet the dress code.
And they all get seated and served.
Yup, Little VIA learned a lesson that day all right.
Just not the one I wanted him to learn.
Weird thing is, when I emailed corporate about the issue, I never heard a thing back, not even an acknowledgement of the email.
One less restaurant that I need to spend money at.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 06, 2013 08:02 PM (jlngc)

~~~~~

Used to frequent the Ruth's Chris in Mobile a few years back
when down there on business. People all dressed up. I was never dressed poorly just rarely in business attire much less formally. Mostly shorts and a short sleeve shirt. Would get some looks by the hostesses but no one said a thing. Just walked in and went straight to the bar for dinner. Asked the bartender once about the dress code and he said it does not matter as long as your money is green and you have plenty of it. Always got great service and good food.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 07, 2013 12:07 AM (RXQ2T)

646 The C4 Vettes all got made into car bombs, I take it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2013 10:17 PM (29+x5)


It isn't much of a loss. Like i told a Chevy dealer about 10 years ago, "Hell, I use those for parts cars", referring to when I still fucked around with streetrods.

Posted by: Bill H at January 07, 2013 12:14 AM (3sZO1)

647 I can't tolerate the hipster nonsense at a restaurant.

There's a place that has great food, but all of their staff looks like some Occupy Wall Street protest. I'm not some old timer, but it's just not appetizing to see people tatted up, pierced, and dreadlocked while you eat.

Also, I'm in the camp that most waiters are a lazy, entitled bunch that are ridiculously overpaid. I want to puke whenever I hear someone make a case that the deserve a big tip because they work so hard.


Posted by: McAdams at January 07, 2013 11:25 AM (424lA)

648 Oh this is so true. We've noticed how the service has deteriorated over they ears at one steak house. We no longer go there. Our last waitress was such a joke... we were wondering if it was really some kind of joke. At the end of the nightmare... after we corrected her math on our check.. she never returned with our 27 cent change. After getting the manager to find out where she was.. on a cell phone.. she stated she didn't think we really wanted 27 cents back. Yeah.. we did. You couldn't make this up.

Posted by: jellytoast at January 07, 2013 01:07 PM (DpSG3)






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