First Paycheck Of The Year: Schadenfreude Is A Poor Substitute For Cash

The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods. ~ H.L. Mencken*

As a CPA and member of the eevillll group of millionaires and billionaires with an annual family income over $450,000, I wasn't surprised at all when the direct deposit hit this morning. But for the low-information voter crowd, well ...


Happy New Year and happy payday! Thank goodness our “lord and savior” Obama signed the fiscal cliff bill into law after proudly proclaiming, “Under this law, more than 98 percent of Americans and 97 percent of small businesses will not see their income taxes go up.”

Promises, promises.

While PolitiFact will likely rate Obama’s statement “Mostly Swoon,” around 70 percent of Americans are going to pay more taxes in 2013. If you like your payroll taxes (and even if you don’t), you can keep them and pay two percent more than you did in 2012.

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That's a nice collection of tweets the Twitchy folks pulled together. They of course referenced the awesome DU post in the sidebar, too. That one needs to be bronzed.

What happened that my SS withholdings in my paycheck just went up.

What. Happened?

You reelected a lying SCOAMF. That's what happened.

Now don't get me wrong, this tax increase sucks. I'd much rather have more money to spend on exotic vacations, foreign sportscars, yachts, precious jewels, private aircraft, small islands and other things we millionaires and billionaires making over $450,000 a year and living in one of the highest cost-of-living areas in the country waste our massive stacks of excess cash on. But the fact that we have to send that money to the government now instead hurts the folks that work in those industries a lot worse than it hurts us.

Drew M.'s been saying something for a while that can't be repeated enough (paraphrasing): shielding people from the consequences of voting for "free stuff" is a losing battle.

So welcome to your tax increase, Obama voters. Elections have consequences.

* Quote via today's Transom.

Posted by: Andy at 10:50 AM



Comments

1 Silver dimes !!!!

Posted by: luaP noR at January 04, 2013 10:54 AM (RKlJP)

2 I'll see your silver dimes, and raise you a $1 trillion platinum coin.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2013 10:55 AM (DrWcr)

3 Tess, you is my woman now

Posted by: Barky at January 04, 2013 10:55 AM (DrC22)

4 Economic justice does not come for free, you haters. Why can you not free yourself from your racist hostility to Barack Obama's wise solutions for the problems he was left by that stupid faux-cowboy who pretended to be Texan? The illegal wars against brown people had to be stopped, and now have to be paid for. This money can now be used to aid the poor and downtrodden, help the spread of correct thoughts, and stop right-wingers like all of you.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 04, 2013 10:56 AM (jCQ+I)

5 I've had a schadenboner over this since last night. Guess I should call a doctor.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2013 10:56 AM (W7ffl)

6 The ghost of Frederic Bastiat's gonna laugh his ass off when the Q1 retail sales figures come in.

Posted by: Andy at January 04, 2013 10:56 AM (C/NnJ)

7 L.I.B. is still going....payday reality shock was the first strike of the match

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at January 04, 2013 10:56 AM (YLZSZ)

8 Pain in the paycheck is a great learning tool for these idiots.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 10:56 AM (UOM48)

9 Don't forget that insurance premiums shot up for most employees.

And as I've found out in my capacity as HR/controller, corporate management links pay raises (if you can get them) to CPI, which isn't the most valid depiction of the true rate of inflation.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 04, 2013 10:57 AM (Ec6wH)

10 As a CPA and member of the eevillll group of millionaires and billionaires with an annual family income over $450,000

Andy, how much time do you spend polishing your monocle every day?

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 10:57 AM (GQ8sn)

11 As a CPA and member of the eevillll group of millionaires and billionaires with an annual family income over $450,000,

Wait. What?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2013 10:57 AM (xSegX)

12 Andy, how much time do you spend polishing your monocle every day?
Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 10:57 AM (GQ8sn)

Is that what they're calling it these days?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2013 10:58 AM (DrWcr)

13 Well Andy, things have changed since H.L. Mencken's times. The government is actually run by unelected Fascists now. They don't even have to be good at getting elected.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 10:58 AM (53z96)

14 My husband's lib niece lost her job a couple of months ago and still hasn't found a new one (and yes, she worships her lord and savior Obama).

Silly twit is pissed that she took a month-long vacation she hadn't earned and her employer caned her when she returned.

The nerve!

Lol.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 10:58 AM (UOM48)

15 11
As a CPA and member of the eevillll group of millionaires and billionaires with an annual family income over $450,000,



Wait. What?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2013 10:57 AM (xSegX)


Did you miss Andy's morning after post?

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)

16 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 10:59 AM (/eBe8)

17 I just gave the Middle Class my favorite finger!

Posted by: Mr President at January 04, 2013 11:00 AM (DrC22)

18 Andy, small islands? Piker.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 11:00 AM (KYj6u)

19 Is that what they're calling it these days?
Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2013 10:58 AM (DrWcr)

Indubitably

Posted by: cajun carrot, rich fucker at January 04, 2013 11:00 AM (UZQM8)

20 Under Obama when tax rates stay the same, that is actually a tax decrease, but when tax rates go up, that is nothing.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:00 AM (gmeXX)

21 That stupid payroll tax cut did absolutely fucking nothing. I refuse to call it "expired". "Reset" is the correct word to use.

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 11:00 AM (GQ8sn)

22 14 My husband's lib niece lost her job a couple of months ago and still hasn't found a new one (and yes, she worships her lord and savior Obama).

Silly twit is pissed that she took a month-long vacation she hadn't earned and her employer caned her when she returned.

The nerve!

Lol.

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Sounds like the receptionist at my sister's office which HR is STILL trying to fire.

Apparently being a pain-pill junkie is a protected group thanks to the Americans With Disabilities Act, so you can't fire them even if they no-show without even bothering to call.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 11:00 AM (e0xKF)

23
Just tell those complaining that taxes are patriotic!

Hell, if they were stoopid enough to vote for the JEF SCOAMTT, you might be able to convince them to give a little more once in a while. And to save the administrative waste of the middleman by heading straight for the 'jects with some cash.

Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:01 AM (Sptt8)

24 Like I mentioned yesterday, my paycheck is light like 140 a month it looks like. Fuck Obama, and fuck the idiots that voted for him.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2013 11:01 AM (OSsaM)

25 Oh, and Tess, you may return to diddling yourself over an Obama/Biden 2012 bumpersticker.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 11:01 AM (KYj6u)

26 Well, I never suported the SS payroll tax 'hoiday' anyway. Itjust further starved the system that liberals are so confident that they are 'protecting', andputmore burden on those who will be paying for it in the future (see: kick the can).
Aside from that, it is entertainingto see liberals become confused when any higher math (read: arithmetic) confounds them.

Posted by: West at January 04, 2013 11:01 AM (1Rgee)

27 Even my wife, who's normally disengaged told me last night "Tomorrow's Paycheck will be my smallest [for this pay year.]"

She put together a few things. 1) She worked no overtime for the first time in a while and 2) Her pay raise hasn't kicked in for this paycheck (which was the last weeks of December) but the Tax increase has.

Indeed, it's quite short.

However, I think she's unaware that despite getting a raise (and it was a nice one), due to increased insurance, higher FICA and something I can't figure out what ADP's tax estimator is doing, our Take home pay is more or less stagnant (within about $25/week, I had to make some guesses on insurance cost from memory.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 11:02 AM (5BEp7)

28 Aside from that, it is entertainingto see liberals become confused when any higher math (read: arithmetic) confounds them.

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It was my understanding that there would be no math involved.

Posted by: Barry The Great at January 04, 2013 11:02 AM (e0xKF)

29 24 Like I mentioned yesterday, my paycheck is light like 140 a month it looks like. Fuck Obama, and fuck the idiots that voted for him.
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2013 11:01 AM (OSsaM)


Theeeenk of teh childrenz while I cash this EBT at 50% for some sweet choom!!!

Posted by: Free Shit Army at January 04, 2013 11:03 AM (UZQM8)

30 Theeeenk of teh childrenz while I cash this EBT at 50% for some sweet choom!!!

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Shit, I KNEW I was doing something wrong!

Posted by: iPad Lady at January 04, 2013 11:03 AM (e0xKF)

31 i have zero sympathy for anyone who voted for the scoamf or didn't vote....in fact...i'm glad they get less...i hope it hurts... i hope they have to give something up because of it......

for those who didn't vote for the scoamf...i commiserate with you

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 11th day of Christmas at January 04, 2013 11:03 AM (GVxQo)

32 The SS tax reduction, in the entire galaxy of possible tax reductions, was the stupidist ever. Take a program headed for insolvency and reduce its income, hurrying its collapse date.

Now reforming and/or eliminating SS -- that's a different story.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 04, 2013 11:04 AM (cHZB7)

33 FICA Taxes are not really taxes, they are contributions to your own personal social security trust fund that you will eventually see when you retire.

-The 80 year lie.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:04 AM (gmeXX)

34 I got a teeny raise this year and it's all going to pay the higher SS tax. My husband got no raise (he is a NJ stateemployee and has had no raise in 5 years) and his first paycheck today is down $80. That's not chicken feed for us. One good thing is that my bonus is considered 2012 income even though I won't get it for another 2 weeks, so the withholding will be at the 2012 rate.

Of course, I knew this was coming so I have planned accordingly. Of course, the Obama voters didn't.

Posted by: rockmom at January 04, 2013 11:04 AM (NYnoe)

35 I just need the shit to hold off hitting the fan for a couple of months.

Bought a house out of foreclosure and now will be able to get out of Milwaukee County for the greener pastures of Ozaukee...of course my current home isn't even on the market yet.

Of course I may need to take up smoking for a couple of months with two mortgages...once I sell the Milwaukee County house and I get into Ozaukee my property tax savings will be immediately gobbled up by the payroll tax.

Yay America.

Posted by: H Badger at January 04, 2013 11:04 AM (n/0Nw)

36 The DU comments are precious. One nutjob there is proposing a 100% estate tax. And of course Algore's "sell CurrentTV before my taxes go up" maneuver is A-OK with them because "that's what anyone would do." And Mitt Romney is the Anti-Christ because he only paid $2 million in taxes in a year he didn't work. All of which is further evidence to support my bullet-proof conclusion that liberals are mentally ill.

Posted by: retired at 43 - suck it, libs at January 04, 2013 11:04 AM (x9s9/)

37 I must say that Lefties screeching about this fillsthe sub-cockle region of my heart shaped area with wonderful, wonderful warmth. Welcome to reality! Doesn't it suck?


The hilarious bit for me is that I opposed the payroll deduction holiday and am actually pleased that it expired. Make people see how much it hurts to pay for an infinitesimal part of our current mandates and then point out how much more has to be paid to actually fund them.


HeatherRadish has a great point in the post below that the next step is to explain to people that this isn't paying for their SS. No, no, no, it's paying for everyone currently on SS of whatever form. There is no account with your name on it where this money goes. It simply gets fed into the gaping maw of the Federal government who then lies and says it's in a lockbox when, in actuality, that lock box is a filing cabinet holding IOUs from the Treasury Department.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 04, 2013 11:05 AM (VtjlW)

38 :: Obama signed the fiscal cliff bill into law after proudly proclaiming,
“Under this law, more than 98 percent of Americans and 97 percent of
small businesses will not see their income taxes go up.”
::


This is like a lesson in Shakespeare: "No man of woman born shall harm MacBeth!"


What was that Franklin said about experience keeping a dear school, but fools will learn at no other?

Posted by: Nighthawk at January 04, 2013 11:05 AM (RSqz2)

39 That stupid payroll tax cut did absolutely fucking nothing.

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It gave me about an extra $2,000 to spend on my family. I kind of liked that.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:05 AM (gmeXX)

40 Just tell them not to worry, it's going into the Social Security lockbox. It's so much better when the government saves for your retirement. (I could barely type that with a straight face.)

Posted by: no good deed at January 04, 2013 11:05 AM (mjR67)

41 You bought an island? Can we come?

Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2013 11:05 AM (RD7QR)

42 excuse me- I've got to go 'polish the monocle'

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 11:06 AM (8sCoq)

43 Fom the article.


Just opened up my paycheck, they said that the payroll taxes were going to be hit...FUCKING REPUBLICANS!!!!



........and some folks just cant be reached,

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2013 11:06 AM (nELVU)

44 FICA Taxes are not really taxes, they are contributions to your own
personal social security trust fund that you will eventually see when
you retire.


Held in a Lock. Box.

*holds up an invisible box for the stupid people*

Posted by: Algore at January 04, 2013 11:06 AM (KYj6u)

45 Repubs should never have agreed to this raiding of SS. They should have played the game like libs do 'They are steeling Grandma's check eleventy!'

But seeing all the whining is pretty good, until SCOAMF and the MFM blame Boehner for it in about 5, 4, 3,...

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 04, 2013 11:06 AM (UU0OF)

46
Phoenixgirl, I'm with you.

I resent those who would throw our country away for some selfish gain or some contrary-to-human-nature engineering to "help" me.

Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:06 AM (Sptt8)

47 I don't think it's a coincidence that DU is an abbreviation for Depleted Uranium and Democrat Underground because those folks are seriously DENSE

Posted by: luaP noR at January 04, 2013 11:06 AM (RKlJP)

48 The BS 2% SS tax cut did not affect me going in and it doesn't affect me coming back. But the Obamacare BS is killing my ass with insurance premium increases.


That should be considered a tax as well as denoted by Roberts the stupid.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 11:06 AM (53z96)

49 It moved.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 04, 2013 11:06 AM (evdj2)

50 I must say that Lefties screeching about this fillsthe sub-cockle region of my heart shaped area with wonderful, wonderful warmth. Welcome to reality! Doesn't it suck?

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I'm not sure if it's in the cockles of my heart or the sub-cockel region. Maybe in the kidneys, maybe the liver, maybe even in the colon. I'm just not sure.

Posted by: Dr. Denis Leary at January 04, 2013 11:07 AM (e0xKF)

51 I'd dearly love to run into (literally) the silly twit I saw before Christmas with the "I voted for Obama. You can thank me later." sticker on her clown car.

How's that vote working out for you now, you silly scrunt.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:07 AM (UOM48)

52 “Under this law, more than 98 percent of Americans and 97 percent of
small businesses will not see their income taxes go up.”


Amusingly, it's true--it's not he income taxes that went up...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 04, 2013 11:07 AM (GBXon)

53 DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT

Taxpayer Bill for Obama's Hawaii Vacations: $20 Million... http://drudge.tw/Z3ku7D

Posted by: kbdabear at January 04, 2013 11:07 AM (wwsoB)

54 That stupid payroll tax cut did absolutely fucking nothing.



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It gave me about an extra $2,000 to spend on my family. I kind of liked that.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:05 AM (gmeXX)

It was sold as economic stimulus.

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 11:07 AM (GQ8sn)

55 The SS tax reduction, in the entire galaxy of possible tax reductions, was the stupidist ever. Take a program headed for insolvency and reduce its income, hurrying its collapse date

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Ugh. FICA taxes and federal income taxes all go to the same pot. The fact that they are called something different or in theory are to support different things is meaningless. There is no difference in cutting FICA taxes or Federal income taxes. A tax cut is a tax cut, and a tax increase is a tax increase.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:08 AM (gmeXX)

56 Silly twit is pissed that she took a month-long vacation she hadn't earned and her employer caned her when she returned.

Would that I could give out thrashings like that.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 04, 2013 11:08 AM (evdj2)

57 I sprinkled Viagra on my paycheck but still got stiffed. Thank you, 47%.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 11:08 AM (wbmaj)

58 I think this is my favorite part: I guarantee this decrease will hurt me more than the increase in income taxes will hurt those making over $400,000.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 11:08 AM (ZKzrr)

59 Take a program headed for insolvency and reduce its income, hurrying its collapse date.

The Republicans want to end Social Security as we know it. We just want to reduce funding. It's not the same thing at all.

Posted by: some liberal at January 04, 2013 11:09 AM (mjR67)

60 Yeah, the DU posts are funny, but also kind of depressing. Most of them are blaming the Tea Party, yes the fucking Taxed Enough Already party, for the increase! That's what we're dealing with. The reality based community.

Posted by: yinzer at January 04, 2013 11:09 AM (/Mla1)

61 Oh don't be too giddy about the increased bloodflow to your private regions, read the comments of the DU post and you'll see plenty of stupidity and plenty of blaming it on Republicans.

These shitstains are incapable of learning.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 04, 2013 11:09 AM (IgvLC)

62 I made it a point not to spend a dime of the "stimulus" payroll tax cut. saved, invested, and paid down debts with it. did not spend it on consumer products. just out of spite.

Posted by: DCPensFan at January 04, 2013 11:09 AM (ma/2m)

63 Those tweets are really putting a nice smile on my face this Friday.

Posted by: RWC at January 04, 2013 11:09 AM (fWAjv)

64 53 DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT

Taxpayer Bill for Obama's Hawaii Vacations: $20 Million... http://drudge.tw/Z3ku7D

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Is that itemized?

I'm wondering how much of that was because he made SEVERAL TRIPS back and forth between DC and Hawaii not to do a damn thing.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 11:09 AM (e0xKF)

65 Tess is just gonna have to get a smaller unicorn tat.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 04, 2013 11:09 AM (b1VIZ)

66 So the FICA tax increase would be an economic depressant? At least it would mitigate the effects of Bernank-a-stank.

I get the feeling that America is going to choke on its own vomit. Or someone else's. Or die in a bizarre gardening accident.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 04, 2013 11:10 AM (Ec6wH)

67 Let us not separate the familias over this small matter.

Posted by: Clemenza at January 04, 2013 11:10 AM (x59Gv)

68 I posted it in the other thread, but pleased enough to mention it again.

I was waiting for someone to justify the increased withholdings by pointing to the "free!" birth control and my stupid sister-in-law happily complied. A quick breakdown of how that $120-ish a month would've bought the newest birth control around, the kind that controls acne, reduces cycles to 4 times a year (not that that's a great idea, but whatever) and makes your sweat smell like daisies in the spring rain, never mind the $4 generic PLUS the doctor visit to get it...

yeah that shut her up and left her simpering "but the cut was temporary!"

To which someone else was kind enough to point out that "it was temporary, to keep the economy afloat when it was suffering before---people need that 2% even more now."

It was fun.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 11:10 AM (b+8h9)

69 My pay check is down...all of it. I don't have one since Sir Golfsalot fucked the medical device industry. Funemployment here!

Posted by: Timon at January 04, 2013 11:10 AM (hHlaS)

70 It was sold as economic stimulus.
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I don't care how it was sold. I'm for anything that lets me keep more of my own money. I'm quite sure my spending, saving or investing the $2,000 did more for the economy than the federal government can do with it.

No matter what, it is a tax increase for my family and results in less take home pay for me to spend.

Obviously, the press can't be bothered to mention that taxes went up for basically every working American.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:11 AM (gmeXX)

71 " I don't have one since Sir Golfsalot fucked the medical device industry."

sorry man. I'm working that issue as an evil lobbyist. trying to get it repealed.

Posted by: DCPensFan at January 04, 2013 11:12 AM (ma/2m)

72 I get the feeling that America is going to choke on its own vomit. Or someone else's. Or die in a bizarre gardening accident.

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Spontaneous human combustion perhaps?

Posted by: Mick Shrimpton at January 04, 2013 11:12 AM (e0xKF)

73
Payroll taxes funding social security??
Also social security disability!
Which is what my morbidly obese unemployed sister living/mooching with my mother is waiting for. Her boyfriend in the basement gets a 'nut check' from SSD.
Won't work cuz it would ruin her chances. Says her lawyer says it can take up to five appeals.

I usually try not to upset my mom, but when she told me how her only peace is knowing that the beasts can move in with me when she dies, I laughed my ass off and literally dropped the phone.

Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:12 AM (Sptt8)

74 Obviously, the press can't be bothered to mention that taxes went up for basically every working American.
Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:11 AM (gmeXX)


Oh well, from top shelf booze to middle shelf booze.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 11:12 AM (l86i3)

75 Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.

Posted by: Freddie B. at January 04, 2013 11:12 AM (Tt6ky)

76 That stupid payroll tax cut did absolutely fucking nothing.

Except put more money in my paycheck.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2013 11:13 AM (v+QvA)

77 so the severance pay from my former employer will be taxed at the higher 2013 rate

Thanks, Obama voters.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 11:13 AM (8sCoq)

78 " I don't have one since Sir Golfsalot fucked the medical device industry."

Are tampons still considered a "medical device"?

Every libtard chick should think about that each time they stick one of them up their hairy, yeasty, stinking, cum-catcher.

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 11:13 AM (GQ8sn)

79
And of course per DU the end of thepayroll tax holiday isentirely the fault of ... Republicans. Because, per DU,the payroll tax holiday should be permanent becauseour current social security contributions actually go to fund everything but social security andif we had a 100% estate tax everythink would be fine. See, mental illness.

Posted by: retired at 43 - suck it, libs at January 04, 2013 11:13 AM (x9s9/)

80 This is not spreading manure people but rather funding the transplants...IYKWIM Amigos....

Posted by: Clemenza at January 04, 2013 11:13 AM (x59Gv)

81 Oh well, from top shelf booze to middle shelf booze

I'm still on bottom shelf booze. I'm not Andy. Actually, it just doesn't matter after the first couple glasses.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:13 AM (gmeXX)

82 Oh well, from top shelf booze to middle shelf booze.

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From Night Train to paint thinner...

Posted by: NYC Hobos at January 04, 2013 11:13 AM (e0xKF)

83 Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
Posted by: Freddie B. at January 04, 2013 11:12 AM (Tt6ky)

That whole Den of Inequities we call Washington DC lives off of everyone else.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 11:13 AM (l86i3)

84
Every time a Dim voter opens its paycheck and says, "Oh Shit!" an angel gets its wings.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 04, 2013 11:14 AM (yiIja)

85 Sorry but SS should never have been reduced by the 2% in the first place. It is not a tax increase, but going to the orginial rate. That money was taken from SS and not replaced. Some of you complaining will miss that 2% more futher down the road when some real reforms are needed for SS. Grow up.

Posted by: LYNNDH at January 04, 2013 11:14 AM (mr9Ns)

86 By the way, we're still a trillion short on this year's budget. That's after the tax hikes on the rich and on us all. It's almost like the liberal plan of "tax the rich"...didn't work, or something.

Posted by: Aaron at January 04, 2013 11:14 AM (Tlix5)

87 Except put more money in my paycheck.

As I said, it was sold to us as 'economic stimulus'. In that sense, it did absolutely nothing to stimulate our economy.

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 11:14 AM (GQ8sn)

88 From Gateway Pundit:
"Obama Supporters Hit Hardest in Latest Jobs Report" Who knew?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 11:14 AM (wbmaj)

89 I think I may have finally found the one thing that can get me to quit smoking- unemployment

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 11:15 AM (8sCoq)

90 Every time a Dim voter opens its paycheck and says, "Oh Shit!" an angel gets its wings.


THREAD WINNER!

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 11:15 AM (GQ8sn)

91 Grow up.
Posted by: LYNNDH at January 04, 2013 11:14 AM (mr9Ns)


It's already Bankrupt you stupid fuck, we get nothing.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 11:15 AM (l86i3)

92 40
Just tell them not to worry, it's going into the Social Security
lockbox. It's so much better when the government saves for your
retirement. (I could barely type that with a straight face.)


Posted by: no good deed at January 04, 2013 11:05 AM (mjR67)

Don't laugh, 401(k)s are the next great untapped source of wealth. For the government, that is -- you don't count.

Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2013 11:15 AM (RD7QR)

93 >> Andy, how much time do you spend polishing your monocle every day?

None of your business, pervert.

Posted by: Andy at January 04, 2013 11:15 AM (C/NnJ)

94
Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:12 AM (Sptt


Hey! They can move in me now! (basement is a 3-foot crawl space).

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 04, 2013 11:15 AM (b1VIZ)

95 Her boyfriend in the basement gets a 'nut check' from SSD.

Won't work cuz it would ruin her chances. Says her lawyer says it can take up to five appeals.


Meanwhile, I have a family member who had a stroke, and can't work 40 hours, and she can't get disability, because she doesn't qualify. Lovely situation.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at January 04, 2013 11:15 AM (i2Lsf)

96 Everyone working should immediately increase their income tax withholding exemptions. Would be hilarious to see federal revenues drop after Obama got his tax increase.

Posted by: rockmom at January 04, 2013 11:16 AM (qE3AR)

97 Dear Tess,

While your taxes were going up, I was going down...to size up a putt!

Happy New Year!

Posted by: President Hawaii at January 04, 2013 11:16 AM (DrC22)

98 Thanks for the quote. I will pass it along to many.

Posted by: Bruce at January 04, 2013 11:16 AM (hl+bP)

99 That money was taken from SS and not replaced.

Lock! Box!

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 04, 2013 11:16 AM (S/WR4)

100 Sounds like the receptionist at my sister's office which HR is STILL trying to fire.



Apparently being a pain-pill junkie is a protected group thanks to
the Americans With Disabilities Act, so you can't fire them even if they
no-show without even bothering to call.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 11:00 AM (e0xK)


Yep. Sometimes you have to quit to get your company below the ADA size to fire those bastards.

Posted by: Hank Hill at January 04, 2013 11:16 AM (5BEp7)

101 84

Every time a Dim voter opens its paycheck and says, "Oh Shit!" an angel gets its wings.




I want this on a bumper sticker.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:16 AM (UOM48)

102 Obama's Hawaii Vacation Day 2: Gym, Bowling, Shaved Ice
http://is.gd/S7kVND

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 11:16 AM (ZKzrr)

103 Paycheck? And they're complaining?

Posted by: t-bird at January 04, 2013 11:17 AM (FcR7P)

104
Government is the great fiction through whicha majorityendeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.

FIFY

Posted by: Jess1 at January 04, 2013 11:17 AM (lbiWb)

105 What really bothers me a bout Tess' tweet is she just assumes 2% doesn't matter to us (and by us I'm guessing she is referring to the rich, whomever that may be).

Two percent is the same to me as it is to her. Just as she doesn't want to lose 2% of her income, neither do I. And I'm guessing the 2% to me is more money than her 2%, so by using her logic,it is affecting me more.

These people. No one likes to have their money taken from them.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:17 AM (gmeXX)

106 I'm gonna walk my Puppeh before I go all Captain Hate on somebody.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 11:17 AM (l86i3)

107
Being self employed and paying both sides of payroll tax ourselves, it was still hard to convince some others it was wrong.
The FSA is strong and contagious. Due to hopelessness. Due to f'ing hope and change.
JEF

Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:17 AM (Sptt8)

108 I'd much rather have more money to spend on exotic vacations, foreign
sportscars, yachts, precious jewels, private aircraft, small islands and
other things we millionaires and billionaires making over $450,000 a
year and living in one of the highest cost-of-living areas in the
country waste our massive stacks of excess cash on.


And mink-lined riding crops. Don't forget the mink-lined riding crops.

Posted by: pep at January 04, 2013 11:17 AM (USJNU)

109 I'm so happy.

Let it burn.

Enjoy your tax on stupid, Obots.

Posted by: Hopeless at January 04, 2013 11:17 AM (VIo0S)

110 It's almost like the liberal plan of "tax the rich"...didn't work, or something.

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Yup.... and the revenue fromt "tax the rich" is almost the same as the hurricane relief bill.... so.... we already blew the new money in the first four days of the new year.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2013 11:18 AM (nELVU)

111 Bwa?? What happened? This doesn't seem fair!!11!!


Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 11:18 AM (jvd3N)

112 401(k)s are the next great untapped source of wealth.

You didn't save that, someone else saved that for you.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 04, 2013 11:18 AM (mjR67)

113 I didn't support the 'payroll tax holiday' in the first place (since it just further underfunded the failing SS program anyway), but it's tasty, tasty schadenfreude.

Posted by: zsasz at January 04, 2013 11:19 AM (RDP+N)

114 laisser brûler

Posted by: T. Hunter - franco-redneck-American at January 04, 2013 11:19 AM (EZl54)

115 Don't worry though, HuffPo has a handy list of how to get the lost money back (which doesn't get the money back, they just tell you to stop buying frivolous shit.)

Thanks HuffPo!!!

Posted by: RWC at January 04, 2013 11:19 AM (fWAjv)

116 How about those 20 hour work weeks, folks? Gotta love the Obennies!

Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2013 11:19 AM (/ZZCn)

117 Why do all these whiner liberals hate poor people, the sick and the old? Why do they hate income equality?

Posted by: gwelf at January 04, 2013 11:20 AM (+7Usq)

118 This is my gift to the middle class.

Posted by: President Obama at January 04, 2013 11:20 AM (DrC22)

119 Sorry to bug you guys but what is FSA?

Posted by: luaP noR at January 04, 2013 11:21 AM (RKlJP)

120 That 13% flat tax the Russians have is mighty sweet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:21 AM (UOM48)

121 Relax, that smaller paycheck was a victory for Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress

Posted by: Koumei Nakamura at January 04, 2013 11:21 AM (e8kgV)

122 My give-a-shitometer needle is stuck on zero. I heard an Obama-voter complain about a $42 reduction in net pay. That's $54,600 per year state worker bitching about SS payroll withholding going back to where it should have been all this time.

Posted by: Al at January 04, 2013 11:21 AM (V70Uh)

123 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 11:16 AM (ZKzrr)


It's so nice seeing him spend time with his family.


Wait, where the hell is the family during all these pictures. Almost like they don't enjoy each others company.

Posted by: RWC at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (fWAjv)

124 But remember, because of the quick and courageous action of John Boehner and the House Republicans, 98% of Americans didn't see their taxes go up.

Everyone says so.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (/eBe8)

125
I am shamed that my blood relation is a subhuman leech.
Thanks be to this forum for a way to vent, because I'm sure as hell too ashamed to tell friends!!!

It's so much worse now that I also think about the truly disabled she steals from.

Funny thing is she hates the SCOAMTT.

Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (Sptt8)

126 Sorry to bug you guys but what is FSA?
Posted by: luaP noR at January 04, 2013 11:21 AM (RKlJP)
Free
Sh*t
Army

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (DrWcr)

127 The fairness. It burns.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (TULs6)

128 As an above ppater said. This will makefor great Q1 sales and consumer spending numbers.

Posted by: Hopeless at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (VIo0S)

129 sorry man. I'm working that issue as an evil lobbyist. trying to get it repealed.

Posted by: DCPensFan at January 04, 2013 11:12 AM (ma/2m)

Thanks and good luck! We had been working with Arnold and Porter a while back. That is until we got rid of our VP of Government affairs. Good call huh?

Posted by: Timon at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (hHlaS)

130 Don't laugh, 401(k)s are the next great untapped source of wealth. For the government, that is -- you don't count.

---

This is why I quit contributing to IRAs when that JEF got elected.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (e0xKF)

131 119
Sorry to bug you guys but what is FSA?



Free Shit Army. Obot voters like Obamaphone lady.

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 11:22 AM (GQ8sn)

132 Welcome to reality no information voters. At least womyn weren't put in binders

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 11:23 AM (1Jaio)

133 Every time a Dim voter opens its paycheck and says, "Oh Shit!" an angel gets its wings.

I want this on a bumper sticker.

CafePress dot com. They can make it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 11:23 AM (GFM2b)

134 Screw you, Tess. I went from buying "Happy Cat" to"Valu-Rite" for dinner.

Posted by: Grandma at January 04, 2013 11:24 AM (b1VIZ)

135 105 What really bothers me a bout Tess' tweet is she just assumes 2% doesn't matter to us (and by us I'm guessing she is referring to the rich, whomever that may be).

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Maybe "the rich" in her mind are her bosses. Who, more likely than not, as we employ most of the people in this country, are small business owners. Mr. Works Too Hard and I are both self-employed. We get to pay this increased rate twice. Enjoy, Tess, enjoy.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 11:24 AM (b+8h9)

136
"Being self employed and paying both sides of payroll tax ourselves, it was still hard to convince some others it was wrong"

This, times 10,000. LIV* have no clue @ the actual $$ of income/payroll taxes. It's just "hey, I can buy a new Flibbersung 65" TV on March 16th!!! Whoo hooo!!!"


LIV = low info voter. You know, Moron (Think Gene Wilder/Blazing Saddles, not AoS moron)

Posted by: Jess1 at January 04, 2013 11:24 AM (lbiWb)

137 The same thing is going to happen when Obamacare actually gets implemented. Wait for the wailing from people like my middle class lib friends who actually think their premiums are going down...

Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 11:24 AM (DrC22)

138
FSA used to be the acronym for Flexible Spending Account, but of course that is your personal use of your own money.

Free Shit Army is so much more fair!

Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:24 AM (Sptt8)

139
What a difference a year makes. Remember last year when Obama started that Twitter campaignfor #40dollars and all his followers tweeted about what they could do with the $40 dollars per paycheck they were going to lose if the evil Republicans let the payroll tax credit expire?
Now? Well, Obama won his re-election, so he doesn't really care. People should have known when they only extended the credit for one more year, that Obama wasn't going to want to renew it again. So much for the middle class warrior.

Posted by: sydney jane at January 04, 2013 11:24 AM (zYWPO)

140 As an above ppater said. This will make for great Q1 sales and consumer spending numbers.

Further cuts to staffing and inventory. Feedback loop. Hrm.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 11:24 AM (ZKzrr)

141 Here is the fundamental problem of the Obama voter. They have nobasic math skills. Over the weekend, I went shopping for baby furniture and Babies R Us had a sale on a particular brand of furniture that said 40% off when you buy 2 pieces of furniture. So I asked what happens if I buy 3 pieces, does the 40% apply to the whole order or just to 2 pieces. She wasn't sure, but told me she would give me the same 20% discount anyway. I asked why she wouldn't give me the 40% discount, and she said because the discount was really 20% off each piece of furniture and when you bought 2 that added up to 40%. For10 minutes I tried to explain to her the fallacy of her math mistake, but she couldn't seem to grasp it. In any event, I think the sale only applied for the 2 pieces, so at least I got the third for 20% off.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:25 AM (gmeXX)

142 This will be a fun few months as the New Obamaconomy sets in.

UE at 8.3% by fall?

Posted by: zsasz at January 04, 2013 11:25 AM (RDP+N)

143 If you are a taxpayer and you vote for Democrats, you are a sheep voting to put lamb on the menu.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 04, 2013 11:25 AM (gznAu)

144 >>>shielding people from the consequences of voting for "free stuff" is a losing battle.

I prefer the more succinct vulgarity "Let.It.Burn"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 11:25 AM (0q2P7)

145 Sorry to bug you guys but what is FSA?

Federally Subsidized Assholes

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2013 11:25 AM (81UWZ)

146 "Silly twit is pissed that she took a month-long vacation she hadn't earned and her employer caned her when she returned."

Caned?

She should have been horsewhipped.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2013 11:26 AM (gqT4g)

147
FSA used to be the acronym for Flexible Spending Account, but of course that is your personal use of your own money.


They've slashed the allowable amount for that, too. MUST TAX EVERYTHING, you see.

Posted by: zsasz at January 04, 2013 11:26 AM (RDP+N)

148
Shit, SH!
Couldn't you have talked her into a 60% discount??

Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:26 AM (Sptt8)

149 Am I considered a taxpayer if I elected to have taxes withheld from my unemployment?

Posted by: Timon at January 04, 2013 11:26 AM (hHlaS)

150 You people who get a regular paycheck confuse and astound me--it's cute, really.

Out here in Mad Max land, we kill what we eat and keep what we kill. a/k/a: Self-employed.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 04, 2013 11:26 AM (imtbm)

151 I tried to explain to her the fallacy of her math mistake, but she couldn't seem to grasp it.

You might as well try to explain Quantum Mechanics to a sheep.

Posted by: pep at January 04, 2013 11:26 AM (USJNU)

152 Couple this story with the news today that African American unemployment spiked up to 14% in December, and then ask yourself why exactly do lower income folks vote for Democrats? 2% on SS payroll taxes is moderately painful for me, because I pay the whole thing up to $113k. But it works out to less than 1% of my total income, and it comes out of a bigger pool of "marginal" dollars. It's not going to keep me from paying the mortgage or car payments or parochial school tuition. But 2% on an income of $40k is $800 that that personprobably doesnot have in their budget.They are going to feel it.

File this episode under the heading "Be Careful What You Wish For."

Posted by: The Regular Guy at January 04, 2013 11:27 AM (qHCyt)

153 I don't mind kicking in 2% more for the Schadenfreude.

One question - is the medical device tax under Obamacare going to hit Sandra Fluke's birth control device budget? If so, it might be too much to handle.

Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2013 11:27 AM (VndSC)

154 silly complainers it's for the children.

other peoples children as you can no longer afford to buy your children anything now.

Posted by: ette at January 04, 2013 11:27 AM (nqBYe)

155 145 Sorry to bug you guys but what is FSA?

Federally Subsidized Assholes

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And give me... FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED ASSHOLES!

*BING*

#2 answer!

Posted by: Ray Combs at January 04, 2013 11:27 AM (e0xKF)

156 So if it Burns, do you think we'll see lower tax rates in the New American Country?

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 11:28 AM (5BEp7)

157 I think that the funny thing about the Payroll Tax going back up is that it helps shore up our financial position better than raising taxes on the "rich" did.

The day of reckoning will come where he'll have to raise income taxes on the Middle Class to pay for his ridiculous economic programs. I actually think it's more of a feature than a bug. Have the Middle Class be dependent on you for entitlements.

I am sure that he was hoping that this "Fiscal Cliff" business would do it for him, but I'm sure he'll find a way, aided by the MFM, of course, to blame it on the Republicans later.

Posted by: Wabbajack at January 04, 2013 11:28 AM (Y3C5w)

158
Yes, FSAs and Health Savings Accounts are evil because they encourage actual budgeting and planning, which is to be removed from our society for our own good.

Posted by: Justamom at January 04, 2013 11:28 AM (Sptt8)

159 Dammit. caned - canned

Fuck me for trying to hang out here, do laundry, and take down Christmas stuff.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:28 AM (UOM48)

160 Federally Subsidized Assholes

Barney Frank's idea, right?

Posted by: zsasz at January 04, 2013 11:29 AM (RDP+N)

161 Here is the fundamental problem of the Obama voter. They have nobasic
math skills. Over the weekend, I went shopping for baby furniture and
Babies R Us had a sale on a particular brand of furniture that said 40%
off when you buy 2 pieces of furniture. So I asked what happens if I buy
3 pieces, does the 40% apply to the whole order or just to 2 pieces.
She wasn't sure, but told me she would give me the same 20% discount
anyway. I asked why she wouldn't give me the 40% discount, and she said
because the discount was really 20% off each piece of furniture and when
you bought 2 that added up to 40%. For10 minutes I tried to explain to
her the fallacy of her math mistake, but she couldn't seem to grasp it.
In any event, I think the sale only applied for the 2 pieces, so at
least I got the third for 20% off.



Holy shit...

Teh stupid....it burns.

Posted by: EC at January 04, 2013 11:29 AM (GQ8sn)

162 UE at 8.3% by fall?

The ONLY and I mean ONLY thing that will keep things from going too far south is the fracking bonanza. Which, of course, President Vacay has zero to do with...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 04, 2013 11:29 AM (kNqmp)

163 What a difference a year makes. Remember last year when Obama started that Twitter campaignfor #40dollars and all his followers tweeted about what they could do with the $40 dollars per paycheck they were going to lose if the evil Republicans let the payroll tax credit expire?


-----

I'm not on the twitter so forgive me if this is already going on----but maybe it's time for everyone to # how much money they are now losing into the SS wormhole a month and what they would've done with it. Women who use bc (or men married/involved with them) should subtract their old bc costs and marvel at how much they'd rather pay for the damn pills. Also good---how much you're not contributing to your own retirement and/or helping your own parents because of what the government is taking from you.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 11:29 AM (b+8h9)

164
Spent a good ten minutes getting some laughs over there yesterday. The amazing thing was not one of them made the connection, more taxes = bad for everybody.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2013 11:29 AM (69Mdf)

165 and then ask yourself why exactly do lower income folks vote for Democrats?

The hit of dopamine from "stickin' it to the rich/whitey/church people."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 11:30 AM (ZKzrr)

166 That DU post really is the funniest, most blindly idiotic thing I've read in a while, and that's including Jordan's trolling. Just the blank-faced confusion of it all. "What happened?" Incredible.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 11:30 AM (4df7R)

167 But 2% on an income of $40k is $800 that that personprobably doesnot have in their budget.They are going to feel it.


Trust me. I AM going to feel it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 11:30 AM (GFM2b)

168 Here is the fundamental problem of the Obama voter. They have nobasic
math skills. Over the weekend, I went shopping for baby furniture and
Babies R Us had a sale on a particular brand of furniture that said 40%
off when you buy 2 pieces of furniture. So I asked what happens if I buy
3 pieces, does the 40% apply to the whole order or just to 2 pieces.
She wasn't sure, but told me she would give me the same 20% discount
anyway. I asked why she wouldn't give me the 40% discount, and she said
because the discount was really 20% off each piece of furniture and when
you bought 2 that added up to 40%. For10 minutes I tried to explain to
her the fallacy of her math mistake, but she couldn't seem to grasp it.
In any event, I think the sale only applied for the 2 pieces, so at
least I got the third for 20% off.


Stupid, you should have bought FIVE pieces, then it would be FREE!

Posted by: zsasz at January 04, 2013 11:30 AM (RDP+N)

169 Yeah.... someone needs a commercial about this....

Obama saying on signing Taxes didn't go up.... then people opening their paycheck....

Then... "Isn't it time Washington quit lieing to us?"

DO NOT Make it an anti Party commercial.... point it at Washington.... and as Obama IS the head of Washington and the one making the statement? The correct conclusions will be drawn by the Low Informaiton Voter.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 04, 2013 11:31 AM (lZBBB)

170 So if it Burns, do you think we'll see lower tax rates in the New American Country?

Depends on which new country you end up in. For those of us in the Texas Federation, I imagine so. Completely doing away with income tax is not out of the question.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:31 AM (/eBe8)

171 So welcome to your tax increase, Obama voters. Elections have consequences.

I have this schadenfreudelicious feeling I'm going to have plenty of opportunity to spout that little blurb to plenty of my fellow-citizens here in the People's Republic of Massachusetts (and to some relatives elsewhere) over the next week (as most of my friends/family are on bi-weekly pay and won't get this little nasty surprise until next week).

I somehow doubt I will manage to control the urge to smile, knowingly, while these words pass my lips.

Posted by: DocJ at January 04, 2013 11:31 AM (A5uiv)

172 Yes, FSAs and Health Savings Accounts are evil because they encourage actual budgeting and planning, which is to be removed from our society for our own good.


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Oh, and price-comparing and competition. It's just wrong for people to actually know what they're paying their doctors and try to get more for their money.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 11:31 AM (b+8h9)

173 Last year I used part of my new found wealth, the 2% that the government decided not to take from me, to invest in tire gauges for all my cars. So this year, with properly inflated tires, I plan to make back that $2,200 in gas savings. Obama told me it would work.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:31 AM (gmeXX)

174 "This will makefor great Q1 sales and consumer spending numbers."


Oh I'm sure the blame shifters will still find a way to pin this on The Storm.


Elections do have consequences, just not the ones you figured.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 04, 2013 11:32 AM (IgvLC)

175 If you want to really throw up your hands and give up on this country, listen to Beck's Moron Trivia on Friday.

Beck to random convenience store worker in Seattle: "What is socialism?"

Worker: "Ummmm......something to do with communication?"

Beck: "What legume is peanut butter made from?"

Worker: "What's a legume?"

Beck: "Who was Betsy Ross?"

Worker: "An actress?"

And on and on. Sad, really.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:32 AM (UOM48)

176 So, how about that Trillion Dollar Coin idea Geithner is floating to pay off the debt? We officially have an administration taking policy advice from the Simpsons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ The_Trouble_with_Trillions

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at January 04, 2013 11:32 AM (azHfB)

177 That link to DU about this is funny... and shows you how clueless they are about this stuff. Also like the new unemployment figures... Choomer is just doing "wonders" to the economy while he goes to Hawaii and rubs cocoa butter on Mooches BOFA!

Choomer's boosters wanted Funemployment, they're getting it!!!!

Posted by: Mjölnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at January 04, 2013 11:33 AM (Jls4P)

178 What we should be doing is phasing out SS and Medicare at the same time we totally abolish Medicaid and Obamacare.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2013 11:33 AM (53z96)

179 The 2% in increase in the SS Tax is just the most out front Tax INCREASE. There are are hundreds of them hidden in obamacare and other obama/democratic passed wet dreams that are only now starting to kick in. A fool and his money is soon parted, so I'd like to put my foot up the ass of all them fools who voted for this shit. And I don't want to hear ya didn't know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2013 11:34 AM (79ueO)

180 Again more proof how GOP fails miserably at messaging. TFG wanted to be able to say he gave every middle and low income person a "tax break" when all he did was speed up the depletion of the special lock box for SS.

GOP should have screamed how TFG was stealing from SS, so people won't get mad at his high gas prices.

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 04, 2013 11:34 AM (lGu1O)

181 You can't fool me! I know that Peanut butter is made from a nut!

Posted by: Obama Voter at January 04, 2013 11:34 AM (/eBe8)

182
There's a double whammy on typical wage earners here, has anyone mentioned that yet?




1. Most people live paycheck to paycheck, spending what comes in. Then they get a tax return in Feb or so, and use it to catch up where they are behind and get a few goodies.


2. "Take-home pay" just decreased by 2%, meaning consumption will drop as people will have 2% less to spend.



3. When tax return time comes next month, returns will be lower due to less withholding last year. Less bump from the return to catch up bills or spend on that new TV.

AmIright?

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 04, 2013 11:34 AM (1Y+hH)

183 Choomer is just doing "wonders" to the economy while he goes to Hawaii and rubs cocoa butter on Mooches BOFA!



Thank you. Would you mind handing me the brain bleach?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:34 AM (UOM48)

184 Remember to tell them. This isn't taxes it's fairness. They have to pay their fair share. That's what Obama's all about. Fairness.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:35 AM (TULs6)

185 I'm trying out my new nic to see if I like it.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 11:35 AM (GQ8sn)

186
Stupid, you should have bought FIVE pieces, then it would be FREE!




TEN pieces! REBATE!

Posted by: Smart Shopper at January 04, 2013 11:35 AM (b1VIZ)

187 We think that Presdent Obama should raise taxes on anybody making more that $20,000 a year.Let's not be greedy and ask for more money than is needed to maintain the basics for are families. We are proud of Presdent Obama and the deal and he deserves a vacation after working so hard to protect us.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 04, 2013 11:35 AM (48wze)

188 Forgot to add "imaginary lock box" for SS. But think all politicians don't want to reveal to publix, no such thing exist.

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 04, 2013 11:35 AM (lGu1O)

189 I confronted a OFA caller by stating that the cut in the payroll tax was money not going to Social Security and Medicare ... he started stuttering

Posted by: James Madison at January 04, 2013 11:35 AM (e8kgV)

190 That DU post really is the funniest, most blindly
idiotic thing I've read in a while, and that's including Jordan's
trolling. Just the blank-faced confusion of it all. "What happened?"
Incredible.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 11:30 AM (4df7R)



The cluelessness is breath taking but confirms how stupid they are. The pissiness and removing of comments who disagree with them confirms how tolerant they are

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 11:35 AM (1Jaio)

191 One of my employees asked me if I could partially pay her in cash. And so it begins

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2013 11:36 AM (79ueO)

192 Remember to tell them. This isn't taxes it's fairness. They have to pay
their fair share. That's what Obama's all about. Fairness.


YES!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 11:36 AM (ZKzrr)

193 > while he goes to Hawaii and rubs cocoa butter on Mooches BOFA!


Big Ol' Fat Ass?

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 11:36 AM (8sCoq)

194 When tax return time comes next month, returns will be lower due to less
withholding last year. Less bump from the return to catch up bills or
spend on that new TV.


No. April 15th this year is for last year's taxes. It's when tax return time comes next year that the second part of the double whammy (I'm I the only one seeing a red tazmanian devil like monster?) will hit.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:36 AM (/eBe8)

195 For10 minutes I tried to explain to her the fallacy of her math mistake,
but she couldn't seem to grasp it. In any event, I think the sale only
applied for the 2 pieces, so at least I got the third for 20% off.


You should've bought 5 items instead. Then they'd have been free.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 11:37 AM (SY2Kh)

196
Big Ol' Fat Ass?

Yes it is.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 04, 2013 11:37 AM (yiIja)

197

...... overheard at my office literally30 seconds ago.... from an Obamavoter.


"But this is alot more than a 2% increase .... its like a third more."




Im debating whether to pile on or not.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2013 11:37 AM (nELVU)

198 O/T

George Lucas gets "jungle fever" to marry a woman 25 years younger than him.




http://tinyurl.com/by9anuv






Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 04, 2013 11:37 AM (wR+pz)

199 Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 04, 2013 11:34 AM (1Y+hH)


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Oh my gosh, I didn't even think about the tax returns. And a LOT of people who get EIC count on the big return check in February or March to get them caught up from what they (over) spent on Christmas, on credit cards and such. Even those who don't overspend on Christmas use it to do sensible things like put toward their kids' summer daycare or buy spring and summer clothes.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 11:38 AM (b+8h9)

200
I don't remember the Moron that recommended I read Bastiat was a few weeks ago, but my god, has it been an amazing ride.
Rolling in his grave? Probably trying to pry himself out.

Posted by: BusinessInAthens at January 04, 2013 11:38 AM (EJQEA)

201 Depends on which new country you end up in. For those of us in the Texas Federation, I imagine so. Completely doing away with income tax is not out of the question.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:31 AM (/eBe


Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern California for a Pacific port. Then we would be unstoppable.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 04, 2013 11:38 AM (8cJXl)

202 85
Sorry but SS should never have been reduced by the 2% in the first
place. It is not a tax increase, but going to the orginial rate. That
money was taken from SS and not replaced. Some of you complaining will
miss that 2% more futher down the road when some real reforms are needed
for SS. Grow up.

Posted by: LYNNDH at January 04, 2013 11:14 AM (mr9Ns)
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That's too fucking funny, that you think Social Security is going to be around in 20 years!!Even some of the mental retards at DU accept this fact.It's dead, Jim. And you're saying a few more transfusions ought to bring it back to life. While the rest of us have moved on to looting the corpse.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (imtbm)

203 Let's not forget that Andy will also be paying an extra $1,800 for Obamacare this year thanks to the 0.9% medicare surcharge (assuming he only makes $450,000). Thanks for spreading your wealth around Andy. I'm sure my medical care will increase accordingly.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (gmeXX)

204 It's too bad we can't arrange for a bloom of jellyfish to stealth swim up on the JEF and sting the shit out him.

Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (/ZZCn)

205 Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern
California for a Pacific port. Then we would be unstoppable.


I'm in.

Posted by: Utah at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (USJNU)

206 Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 04, 2013 11:37 AM (wR+pz)

She's pretty hawt. And TALL. I'm guessing there's some compensation going on here.

Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (RD7QR)

207 The poor saps have no idea, this is only the beginning.

And remember liberals, a democrat is President, dems control the Senate and dems have half the House.

Posted by: mare at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (A98Xu)

208 then turn and take southern California for a Pacific port. Then we would be unstoppable.

We don't need it.

We'll take LA, MS, AL, and FL, and we'll completely own the Gulf shipping. The Panama Canal isn't that far from Houston, really.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:40 AM (/eBe8)

209 "While the rest of us have moved on to looting the corpse."

If you're going to the medicine cabinet, I've already been there.

Posted by: DCPensFan at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (ma/2m)

210 You can't fix stupid, but you can tax it.

-Barky Hussein

Posted by: Marmo at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (QW+AD)

211
One of my employees asked me if I could partially pay her in cash. And so it begins

It has begun?!? It has begun! Fuck taxes. Work for cash. That's starving the beast. I welcome our new black market overlords.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (TULs6)

212 "Posted by: Reality check at January 04, 2013 11:37 AM (1d6WV)"

Republicans didn't want the reduction in the first place, but kept hush hush about it. I think it was a horrible idea as:

1) It helped further the idea that these entitlements come out of nowhere or can be stuck to the "rich" later

2) I don't think it really helped stimulate the economy


Posted by: Wabbajack at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (Y3C5w)

213 And remember liberals, a democrat is President, dems control the Senate and dems have half the House


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The way some rebublicans vote, I'd say the Dems have about 2/3 of the House.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (gmeXX)

214 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:36 AM (/eBe


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Oops, I guess you're right. Still, they will have less in Jan, Feb, and March so those who really played it close will have to spend their tax return on catching up instead on spending it into the spring and summer.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (b+8h9)

215 Let's be honest here, what % of the GOP actually wants to cut spending in their own districts? Is it a # larger than 0?

Posted by: SFGoth at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (dZ756)

216
The Panama Canal isn't that far from Houston, really.


Hell, let's take that back, too!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (b1VIZ)

217 204
It's too bad we can't arrange for a bloom of jellyfish to stealth swim up on the JEF and sting the shit out him.




I'd settle for a rogue wave.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:41 AM (UOM48)

218
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:36 AM (/eBe

Ok, I'm missing something here. Last year 2% less was withheld from paychecks, isn't that right? And doesn't that mean lower tax returns this year?
Thanks for explaining, but I'm confused now.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 04, 2013 11:42 AM (1Y+hH)

219
I'm sick of racist white markets.

Need MOAR black markets.

And more guns.

And more black market guns.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:42 AM (TULs6)

220 You know the last scene in It's A Mad, Mad . . . Mad World?
Everybody
is in a hospital all busted up and in traction, they don't get the
money, and they are going to prison and they are all feeling sorry for
themselves. Spencer Tracy then lists all the things that he has lost
and says, "I'd like to think that sometime, maybe 10 or 20 years from
now, there'd be something I could laugh at... Anything." Then the
screaming harpy bitch played by Ethel Merman comes in and tells them all
how stupid they are, then she slips on a banana peel, and falls on her
fat ass, and everybody busts out laughing.

This is a lot like that.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 11:42 AM (Hx5uv)

221 "Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern
California for a Pacific port. Then we would be unstoppable."

Uh, along with the upside of having a Pacific port, annexing southern California would contain its own extremely substantial downside.


Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2013 11:42 AM (gqT4g)

222 George Lucas gets "jungle fever" to marry a woman 25 years younger than him.

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That "grains of sand" speech works when she has seen your bank balance.

Posted by: Hayden Christiansen at January 04, 2013 11:42 AM (e0xKF)

223 So, the FSA is starting to notice that it's burning.

Posted by: VerucaFluke at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (7ObY1)

224 "Posted by: RoyalOil at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (imtbm)"

Good point! Why keep up this guise of fiscal sanity when the system is going to collapse anyway?

Posted by: Wabbajack at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (Y3C5w)

225
Let's be honest here, what % of the GOP actually wants to cut spending in their own districts? Is it a # larger than 0?

Yes. It's about 2%.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (TULs6)

226 My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their insurance premiums to go down because of O-care. We both CAN'T WAIT for reality to hit them and sink in. It will be great. Almost worth the inevitable increases in premiums. Almost.

Posted by: yinzer at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (/Mla1)

227 The amazing thing was not one of them made the connection, more taxes = bad for everybody.

I almost registered an account over there to ask the question: So, basically you guys are saying that increasing taxes right now is bad?

Or

So you guys think we shouldn't be fully funding SS?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (IgvLC)

228 Republicans didn't want the reduction in the first place, but kept hush hush about it. I think it was a horrible idea as: 1) It helped further the idea that these entitlements come out of nowhere or can be stuck to the "rich" later2) I don't think it really helped stimulate the economy---------

And yet it still allowed me to retain $2,000 of my own money. I don't care if it helps or hurts, I'd much rather keep my money. If this country ever got really serious about cutting spending, then maybe I'd consider paying more in taxes to help bridge the gap. But I don't think the country ever will get serious, so until then I'd rather just keep my own money.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (gmeXX)

229 221 "Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern
California for a Pacific port. Then we would be unstoppable."

Uh, along with the upside of having a Pacific port, annexing southern California would contain its own extremely substantial downside.

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Which is my argument to anyone saying "We should conquer Mexico."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 11:44 AM (e0xKF)

230 If we're being honest, the payroll tax holiday was a dumb idea in the first place. I would have let it lapse too. It provided no stimulative benefit, and accelerated the default of social security.
Of course Obama will just say John Boehner raised taxes on everybody.

Posted by: Sam In VA at January 04, 2013 11:44 AM (rFiOs)

231 And on and on. Sad, really.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:32 AM (UOM4


Also more proof of why SMOD is necessary.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 11:44 AM (4df7R)

232 Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern

California for a Pacific port. Then we would be unstoppable.


Oh yeah???

We'll see how long you splitters manage to survive when Minnesota cuts off lutefisk exports to the Texas Federation.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 11:44 AM (SY2Kh)

233 My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their
insurance premiums to go down because of O-care. We both CAN'T WAIT for
reality to hit them and sink in. It will be great. Almost worth the
inevitable increases in premiums. Almost.


It's already gone up. Remember all those insurers saying they have to suddenly increase premiums 10-15%?

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 11:44 AM (GQ8sn)

234 226 My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their insurance premiums to go down because of O-care. We both CAN'T WAIT for reality to hit them and sink in. It will be great. Almost worth the inevitable increases in premiums. Almost.

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I need to find that article about insurance companies getting a bunch of calls from idiots asking for "my free ObamaCare" from when the original bill passed...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 11:44 AM (e0xKF)

235 No. April 15th this year is for last year's taxes.
It's when tax return time comes next year that the second part of the
double whammy (I'm I the only one seeing a red tazmanian devil like
monster?) will hit.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:36 AM (/eBe

Some of that depends on the deductions you take though.IIRC some 70 deductions did expire for the 2012 Tax year. (IRS rules are weird like that.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 11:45 AM (5BEp7)

236 Texas owns the Gulf already. And I'm thinking those states you listed are ready to Join the Republic of Texas now.

Lets make it happen.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 04, 2013 11:45 AM (8cJXl)

237 The first thing the GOP needs to do is propose that it be reinstated. Double it, even.

I don't give a flying fuck if it "depletes" the SS--that's the whole plan. We should be doing anything and everything to bankrupt every single program the FSA depends on.

"Oh noez! G'Ma and G'Pa will have to eat dog food!!"

Bullshit. It's called personal responsibility and if you are any sort of human being, you'll do what we used to do for all of human history: The elderly live with their children. Or are you so pathetic of a human being that you can't even be bothered to take care of your own parents?

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 04, 2013 11:45 AM (imtbm)

238 Still, they will have less in Jan, Feb, and March so those who really
played it close will have to spend their tax return on catching up
instead on spending it into the spring and summer.


Yep. And in some ways that makes it worse.

A lot of people are going to jack up their withholding deductions- which normally doesn't kick in for a pay-cycle or two (depending on your HR department). So they'll get their return and play "catch up" and they'll have set the deductions lower to make up for the increased FICA taxes.

Then, next year they'll be expecting a refund. Many of them will get them, albeit reduced. Many others will find they've broken even. Many others will find they suddenly owe Uncle Sam some more money.

I'd settle for a rogue wave.

Riptide.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:45 AM (/eBe8)

239 $80.00 dollars a paycheck for me. Obama put an ammunition tax on me and he didn't even know it.

Posted by: polynikes at January 04, 2013 11:45 AM (m2CN7)

240 " "my free ObamaCare" from when the original bill passed..."

people were showing up at hospitals asking the same.

Posted by: DCPensFan at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (ma/2m)

241
226 My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their insurance premiums to go down because of O-care.


HOLY CRAP, people actually believe that??

Posted by: mare at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (A98Xu)

242
"Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern
California
nuke theSan Andreasfor a Pacific Arizonaport. Then we would be unstoppable."



FIFY.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (TULs6)

243 "The Panama Canal isn't that far from Houston, really."

The "Panama" Canal, which was 100% built and paid for by America, was given away to the Panamanians by that genius Jimmy Carter. The Panamanians have since effectively ceded control of the canal to COSCO, which is a front company for the Chinese communist military.

Better find another shipping solution.


Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (gqT4g)

244 Ok, I'm missing something here. Last year 2% less was withheld from
paychecks, isn't that right? And doesn't that mean lower tax returns
this year?
Thanks for explaining, but I'm confused now.


Nope. Those are FICA taxes, not the Income Tax. FICA taxes also reduce your AGI.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (/eBe8)

245 "Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern
California nuke theSan Andreasfor a Pacific Arizonaport. Then we would be unstoppable."


FIFY.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (TULs6)


Ahh...the Lex Luthor plan from Superman 1 I see! I concur!

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 11:47 AM (GQ8sn)

246 yinzer

have her video tape them when that lie is exposed.....i need to laugh...

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 11th day of Christmas at January 04, 2013 11:47 AM (GVxQo)

247 "If this country ever got really serious about cutting spending, then
maybe I'd consider paying more in taxes to help bridge the gap...."

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (gmeXX)

I'm with you on that.

Posted by: Wabbajack at January 04, 2013 11:47 AM (Y3C5w)

248 That fair share idea can be a bitch.

Posted by: RWC at January 04, 2013 11:47 AM (fWAjv)

249 >My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their insurance premiums to go down because of O-care.


do they seriously think that's how it's supposed to work?

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 11:47 AM (8sCoq)

250 If we're being honest, the payroll tax holiday was a dumb idea in the
first place. I would have let it lapse too. It provided no stimulative
benefit, and accelerated the default of social security.


It was a dumb idea, but it made sense from an Obama perspective.

An income tax cut wouldn't have much impact on people already not paying federal income taxes. This way, everybody got an insignificant little tax cut.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (SY2Kh)

251 If we're being honest, the payroll tax holiday was a dumb idea in the first place. I would have let it lapse too. It provided no stimulative benefit, and accelerated the default of social security. Of course Obama will just say John Boehner raised taxes on everybody.

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Ugh. It is never a dumb idea to let working citizens keep their own money. It certainly had more of a stimulative effect than the government spending it. I don't blame this on the GOP. I just hope enough people starting asking the question as to why their taxes went up when Obama said 95% wouldn't see a tax increase.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (gmeXX)

252 243 "The Panama Canal isn't that far from Houston, really."

The "Panama" Canal, which was 100% built and paid for by America, was given away to the Panamanians by that genius Jimmy Carter. The Panamanians have since effectively ceded control of the canal to COSCO, which is a front company for the Chinese communist military.

Better find another shipping solution.

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Exactly how hard was it for us to invade Panama under Bush 41, BTW?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (e0xKF)

253 My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their insurance premiums to go down because of O-care. HOLY CRAP, people actually believe that??
Posted by: mare at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (A98Xu)
Oh yeah! "Smart" people too. College educated, at least. Although she does work in a government office...

Posted by: yinzer at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (/Mla1)

254 226
My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their
insurance premiums to go down because of O-care. We both CAN'T WAIT for
reality to hit them and sink in. It will be great. Almost worth the
inevitable increases in premiums. Almost.

Posted by: yinzer at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (/Mla1)


Wouldn't their employer/insurance company have already notified them of the increase in their premiums? Seems to me this was done a while ago with most employees.

Posted by: Tami at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (X6akg)

255 My husband just paid his company's health insurance for the year. Went shopping for a lower-priced company, and still paid 25% more than last year.

Thankfully, he doesn't have any Obots working for him. So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (UOM48)

256 Let them eat guacamole and lime Doritos.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (jvd3N)

257 >>>And on and on. Sad, really.

I listen to it most every week. It reminds me I missed putting in my thursday pick and I had better get the rest of them done.

Anyway, you're right. Teh stoopid is strong. And totally demoralizing if you believe mankind has the capacity to be free. My favorite question is "who is Glenn Beck?"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (0q2P7)

258 In Obamaboro, VT the city passed a bill to tax people at a higher rate if they did not vote for President Obama. We all think this is fair and if they don't like it.... Then move to New Hamshire or Massenchustus.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (48wze)

259 245 "Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern
California nuke theSan Andreasfor a Pacific Arizonaport. Then we would be unstoppable."


FIFY.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (TULs6)

Ahh...the Lex Luthor plan from Superman 1 I see! I concur!

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What do we call the new body of water? The Gulf of Nevada or Arizona Bay?

Bye, you lizard scum!

Posted by: Bill Hicks at January 04, 2013 11:49 AM (e0xKF)

260 >>>>>Don't laugh, 401(k)s are the next great untapped source of wealth. For the government, that is -- you don't count.

government employee defined benefit pensions are wealth with a today cash value too. they could try and exempt themselves from a wealth tax on retirement funds, but in reality it would only result in needing a bigger lamppost.

Posted by: #6 at January 04, 2013 11:49 AM (KHo8t)

261 My first hit of the year wasour health insurance premium, which increased by several thousand dollars annually. Some is normal inflation, but most is due to Obamacare uncertainty. More looters to come, from other directions.

You say the cost of Obamacare isn't a tax? It is our collective obligation from each according to their ability, and to each according to their need? Oh, wait...call Justice Roberts about that tax thingy.

Posted by: RM at January 04, 2013 11:49 AM (TRsME)

262 I haven't made Andy-esqe money since 2008. It sucks being poor.

Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2013 11:50 AM (ZDsRL)

263 Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 04, 2013 11:42 AM (1Y+hH)


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All the money you earned (that the withholdings came out of) in 2012 is taxed/"put into the SS lockbox" at the old rate. When everyone learns what they owe or are getting back, it will be based on the old rate. The new rates are for money earned this year, so the teensy return will come when you file your 2013 taxes in Feb-April of 2014.

Another thing is that the biggest hit is on SS withholdings, which is just GONE---you don't get refunded for that except the very broke with EIC (sort of---the point of EIC was to make up for that, but I'm not sure if it's actually indexed to the withholding rate and it's capped at a certain dollar amount).

But with everyone having less immediate money to pay off their Christmas excesses, or just pay their regular bills, I bet those awful "refund anticipation loans" are going to make H & R Block and Jackson-Hewitt a killing, because people will need that money pronto. So, some terrible people who prey on those who don't know how to do math will make some money. Silver lining?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 11:50 AM (b+8h9)

264 247 "If this country ever got really serious about cutting spending, then
maybe I'd consider paying more in taxes to help bridge the gap...."

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (gmeXX)

I'm with you on that.

WHAT?? You must not be paying very much now. I'm paying through the asshole and I don't want to pay one penny more, I don't give a shit if it's for orphans or widows.

Posted by: mare at January 04, 2013 11:50 AM (A98Xu)

265 Redistribution of wealth makes us all poor.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 11:50 AM (wbmaj)

266 (I'm I the only one seeing a red tazmanian devil like monster?)

Don't press your luck, pal.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 04, 2013 11:51 AM (cVfX0)

267 Better find another shipping solution.

Naaa. They'll take our money.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 11:51 AM (/eBe8)

268 Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (TULs6)

I like. A simple solution to a simple problem.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 04, 2013 11:51 AM (8cJXl)

269 Pain in the paycheck is a great learning tool for these idiots.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Jane, when are the FSA going to feel their pain? Do they take out any taxes on welfare payments? I am seeing my shit go down hill - how about them?

Posted by: Cheri at January 04, 2013 11:51 AM (G+Wff)

270 Barry's magic touch has killed another business:

http://tinyurl.com/axqe4gd

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:51 AM (UOM48)

271 It was a stupid idea to begin with anyway.
They bitched that SS is going broke, then reduce the contributions as a cheap ass way to claim giving a tax cut to the folks.

Posted by: Chris 'the other white meat' Christy at January 04, 2013 11:51 AM (I7O5y)

272 Why stop at a trillion-dollar coin? Mint a few quadrillion-dollar coins.

Money. In the. Bank.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 04, 2013 11:52 AM (zpqa2)

273 With taxes like his I'd like to know why Andy is still a US citizen. Or is he?

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at January 04, 2013 11:52 AM (epxV4)

274
The poor saps have no idea, this is only the beginning.



And remember liberals, a democrat is President, dems control the Senate and dems have half the House.

Posted by: mare at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (A98Xu)



MFM: But it's still all the Republicans' fault

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 11:52 AM (1Jaio)

275 183
Choomer is just doing "wonders" to the economy while he goes to Hawaii and rubs cocoa butter on Mooches BOFA!

Thank you. Would you mind handing me the brain bleach?

I have some Val-u-Rite diluted to 1:100 strength... will that work?

Posted by: Mjölnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at January 04, 2013 11:52 AM (Jls4P)

276 "I really don't know how much it is, but I had read that the average person would see around $1800 less this year than last. So if its 2%, the average person makes right at 90k a month "
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sigh

Posted by: RWC at January 04, 2013 11:53 AM (fWAjv)

277 The only thing the Lefties will learn from a shrunken paycheck is they need to turn the socialism dial to 11.

Enjoy their pain while you can.

More is coming for all of us.

Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 11:53 AM (EWsrI)

278
Not to be a contrarian about this, but isn't this just repealing that stupid reduction they did a few years back as part of that stupid "Stimulus" deal?

If you're going to have SS, it should at least reflect the actual cost. That being said, they ought to trim back on the COLAs, and phase it out altogether. It's a Ponzi scheme, and a violation of the 10th Amendment.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 04, 2013 11:53 AM (Mxt9o)

279 For10 minutes I tried to explain to her the fallacy of her math mistake,

but she couldn't seem to grasp it. In any event, I think the sale only

applied for the 2 pieces, so at least I got the third for 20% off.

You should've bought 5 items instead. Then they'd have been free.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 11:37 AM (SY2Kh)

Meh, it's entirely possible she thought it was "Buy 1 get the second 40% off" which is more or less 20% off each item (assuming equal priced items.)Take it as a win. I used to go into best buy, talk them into a corner and then walk out with what I wanted. Not on a regular basis mind you. Usually when my computer broke under extended warranty. (The last time that happened was right during the Vista upgrade. They wanted to unload the last XP computer on me even though it had 1 stinking USB port. They claimed the OS upgrade made the others excluded because they weren't "materially the same" or something. I talked them round and round discussing how taking a hit on the number of USB ports was not "of equal performance" until they decided I could just have the value of that computer towards another. Normally that would be a screw job, but it was a Sony, which are overpriced, so I walked out with a much nicer HP for no extra cost. They hadn't considered that part.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 11:53 AM (5BEp7)

280 WHAT?? You must not be paying very much now. I'm paying through the asshole and I don't want to pay one penny more, I don't give a shit if it's for orphans or widows.

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Well I think its a pretty safe bet because this country will never get serious about spending.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:53 AM (gmeXX)

281 My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their

insurance premiums to go down because of O-care. We both CAN'T WAIT for

reality to hit them and sink in. It will be great. Almost worth the

inevitable increases in premiums. Almost.



Posted by: yinzer at January 04, 2013 11:43 AM (/Mla1)





She should tell them to hold their breath until it does

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 11:53 AM (1Jaio)

282 263 jenny

the silver lining is if they voted for obama....i'm not going to shed a tear for them...in fact i'll rub salt in their self inflicted wounds......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 11th day of Christmas at January 04, 2013 11:53 AM (GVxQo)

283 HOLY CRAP, people actually believe that?? Posted by: mare at January 04, 2013 11:46 AM (A98Xu)

Oh yes. Yes they do. And that's just one of the stupid things they believe about Obammycare. I had an argument on Twitter once with a lefty who thought that Obammycare would make people who would normally go to the emergency room for their health care -- low income people with no insurance -- MORE RESPONSIBLE. She actually told me it would increase "personal responsibility" because (allow me to paraphrase since I don't have the exact quote), 'There's no such thing as free healthcare, and Obamacare will ensure that we won't have to subsidize their use of the emergency room anymore.'

I am dead serious. They are THAT stupid.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 11:53 AM (4df7R)

284 Why stop at a trillion-dollar coin? Mint a few quadrillion-dollar coins.

Money. In the. Bank.


Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at January 04, 2013 11:52 AM (zpqa2)

And why stop at a few? Mint a whole fucking pallet full of them!
Universe. In. The. Bank.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 11:54 AM (GQ8sn)

285 H & R Block and Jackson-Hewitt

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*opens envelope*

Name two businesses which should probably be brought up on RICO charges for institutionalized tax fraud.

Posted by: Carnak at January 04, 2013 11:54 AM (e0xKF)

286 >>>maybe I'd consider paying more in taxes to help bridge the gap

F* that. They pull enough money out of this economy already.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 11:54 AM (0q2P7)

287
Arizona Bay.

Dear method actors; imagine you're playing the role of someone who's learning to swim.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 11:54 AM (TULs6)

288 Well, I reckon we will soon find out if it did stimulate the economy or not. I think it probably did help it not suck so bad, since our whole philosophy is based on people know better how to spend their money than DC., if we are right, there will be an economic hit as the millions of people that used to have that money to spend will no longer be spending it.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 04, 2013 11:54 AM (UU0OF)

289 "Ugh. It is never a dumb idea to let working citizens
keep their own money. It certainly had more of a stimulative effect
than the government spending it. I don't blame this on the GOP. I just
hope enough people starting asking the question as to why their taxes
went up when Obama said 95% wouldn't see a tax increase.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:48 AM (gmeXX)"

Still with you on that, and I think that our Social Security system needs serious reform, but F*ck em. That extra $100 a month is worth paying if it makes people see that if they want services from the government, they'll eventually have to pay for them and that they won't always be prepared to pay as the government not only tends to lie to citizens but allows citizens to lie to themselves.

Posted by: Wabbajack at January 04, 2013 11:54 AM (Y3C5w)

290 Not a problem. I'm just going to cut back on my charitable contributions to make up the difference. Maybe only $100/year instead of $300/year.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 04, 2013 11:54 AM (S+el1)

291
The DU comments are stunning.

There, in black and white, right in front of them, what THEY wrote -- is absolute stupidity that they cannot even recognize.

They blame the republicans.

That is the firewall for them. The republicans are evil, so must be behind everything: nazi germany, the kkk, slavery, and tax increases.

Only lobotomies would fix this. And, I'm serious. They simply cannot see fact or reason.

Emo > Common Sense

No wonder psychopaths are so successful.


Posted by: beach at January 04, 2013 11:55 AM (LpQbZ)

292 Just remember Tess, it might hurt a wee bit now but it's going into your own personal lock box. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSXbgfKFWg
"You might want to hold on to that one. It's a car"

Posted by: Major Kong at January 04, 2013 11:55 AM (n/ZDT)

293 Andy, how much time do you spend polishing your monocle every day?

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I've been thinking about monocles lately. (I'm an intellectual so I think about shit like that.) I was wondering why a huge percentage of the population 100 years ago needed monocles and nobody does toady. My guess is that monocles served the same function as bifocals do. You used the monocle for close up work such as reading.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 11:56 AM (Hx5uv)

294 Ehhh... I have mixed feelings on this. It was a temporary payroll tax holiday. Of course it was going to return to the old rates.

On the other hand, whatever makes lefties outraged and unhappy makes me happy.

Posted by: Warden at January 04, 2013 11:56 AM (0DlnM)

295
Well I think its a pretty safe bet because this country will never get serious about spending.

They damned sure aren't serious about whom they elect.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 04, 2013 11:56 AM (yiIja)

296 I've long thought it is time that we redesigned the paystubs. They should show the total cost of employment, including the employer's share of SS/Medicare and insurance premiums.

Posted by: SH at January 04, 2013 11:56 AM (gmeXX)

297 “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”

Not one dime, not one thin dime.

Posted by: Barry Numbnuts the kook bodysurfer at January 04, 2013 11:57 AM (wAQA5)

298 270
Barry's magic touch has killed another business:

http://tinyurl.com/axqe4gd


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 11:51 AM (UOM4
**Heh, the second coming of Lincoln has effectively put Lincoln Furniture out of buisness. Its like some sort of cosmic serendipity without the joy.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 11:57 AM (jvd3N)

299 Normally that would be a screw job, but it was a Sony, which are
overpriced, so I walked out with a much nicer HP for no extra cost. They
hadn't considered that part.)


When I used to buy things at Best Buy, they always tried to impress me with their knowledge of computer parts. When I open my mouth and start going into Tier 2 stuff, even their best employees can't keep up with me. They are seriously behind on any parts a computer geek would look for.

We go to Tiger Direct or Newegg instead.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 11:57 AM (GQ8sn)

300
Free stuff! Free stuff! Free stuff!

Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee stuff!

And it's all fr... wait a minute?!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 04, 2013 11:57 AM (Jcd0S)

301 Mint a few quadrillion-dollar coins.

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Hell yeah. In a few years we will need them to put in parking meters.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 11:57 AM (Hx5uv)

302 Frosts my fat ass too that if Bush or any republican jetted back and forth to Hawaii during budget/debt/fiscal dick negotiations, they'd be strung out by the news 24/7.

Posted by: mare at January 04, 2013 11:58 AM (A98Xu)

303 Got my paycheck today and was bummed to see it lighter by $4.50.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 04, 2013 11:58 AM (UypUQ)

304 >>>The DU comments are stunning.

They thought reality was there bestest friend now they feel the knife of reality in their back with a quiet demand "Your money or your life" suddenly they realize, reality is mugging them.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 11:58 AM (0q2P7)

305 Texas has oil. Alabama has auto manufacturing. Talk to LA and MS, they're in on the Gulf too.

I see a coalition to build here! We can even co-opt the potential problems by promising land in the Conquered Territories (currently known as the Blue States)...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 04, 2013 11:58 AM (GBXon)

306

My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their


insurance premiums to go down because of O-care.



We are watching a great nation dying before our very eyes.

Posted by: beach at January 04, 2013 11:58 AM (LpQbZ)

307 Ehhh... I have mixed feelings on this. It was a temporary payroll tax holiday. Of course it was going to return to the old rates.

WE know that. The left? Not so much. They thought their Mocha Messiah was going to give them MORE money, not take more away. And since they have the memoryspan of a fruit fly, they never imagined that the payroll holiday would be rolled back. They probably don't even know what the payroll holiday WAS.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 11:58 AM (4df7R)

308 At what point does invading Canada and Mexico for their oil become viable.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2013 11:59 AM (2x+V2)

309 #263 and #285

Don't worry,I amgoing to Save the Middle Class from all these shyster loan sharks.

Posted by: Senator Elizabeth Warren, from her $3.1 million home at January 04, 2013 11:59 AM (qE3AR)

310 Schadenfreude would be much stronger if the tax hit only applied to Obama voters. I know Moron Nation is full of multibillionaires, but some of us have to try to support a family of four on $50K.

Posted by: radar at January 04, 2013 11:59 AM (zmlwq)

311
"My guess is that monocles served the same function as bifocals do. You used the monocle for close up work such as reading."

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 11:56 AM (Hx5uv) Exactly right. However, I stopped using a monocle because every time I bent over to read something, my top hat would fall off.

Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2013 11:59 AM (ZDsRL)

312 Yep. Just got the e-mail from finance that our witholding is going up from 4.20% to 6.20% starting January 10. I'm keeping my ears open to hear the whining from the O-bots around my desk and will report any really funny and / or hapless squeals.

Schadenfreude is a poor substitute for cash. Yes, it is, but goddamn it, these assholes deserve to suffer, and I am bound and determined to enjoy their suffering, even if I'm hurting. You want a cool, hip dude for your Preezy? Then dig deep and pay for it.

And forget about this being a 'teachable moment.' To be taught, people have to want to learn. Obama voters do not give a shit about economics, history or the basics of citizenship. All they understand is a pimp slap.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 04, 2013 11:59 AM (zF6Iw)

313 >>>We go to Tiger Direct or Newegg instead.

Fry's is OK if you must have a retail outlet. The help is hit or miss though.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 11:59 AM (0q2P7)

314 My wife works with a bunch of Obama voters who CAN'T WAIT for their insurance premiums to go down because of O-care.

By 3000%.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2013 12:00 PM (wAQA5)

315 We'll see how long you splitters manage to survive when Minnesota cuts off lutefisk exports to the Texas Federation.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 11:44 AM (SY2Kh)


Fucking Christ, dude! Take it easy. We can work a trade agreement.

Posted by: Bill H at January 04, 2013 12:00 PM (3sZO1)

316 Mi sopa de pollo esta muy caliente'

Posted by: dananjcon practicing my spanish anf thinking globally but acting locally or some shit at January 04, 2013 12:00 PM (jvd3N)

317 mare, libs love to rant about Booooosh spending time on his own ranch cutting brush.

And I hope TFG's staff love spending the next four Christmases away from their families.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 12:00 PM (UOM48)

318 Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 11:57 AM (GQ8sn)

Meh, I built my own this time a round.

For Laptops, I could usually find a decent Best Buy deal. And being young and in college at the time the ability to put it on an 18 month same as cash plan was nice.
Also, I made sure I got the use out of their extended protection plans. I always got at least one battery and made sure to take it in for any problems I had to the point that it eventually qualified for a replacement within 3 years. (Well did that for my mine and my mom's by my second one I was done with laptops, and didn't care to go through the trouble.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 12:00 PM (5BEp7)

319 I see a coalition to build here! We can even co-opt the potential problems by promising land in the Conquered Territories (currently known as the Blue States)...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 04, 2013 11:58 AM (GBXon)


*raises hand* I'll volunteer to be a covert agent behind enemy lines!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:00 PM (4df7R)

320 Funny thing is, nobody notices much when their taxes go down. Did people celebrate at the DU when the 2% withholding holiday kicked in a few years back?

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 04, 2013 12:01 PM (UypUQ)

321 didn't Biden say that paying taxes is patriotic? And don't lefties regularly tell us not to question their patriotism? Win-Win for the left, don'tcha think?

Posted by: mallfly at January 04, 2013 12:01 PM (bJm7W)

322 305 Texas has oil. Alabama has auto manufacturing. Talk to LA and MS, they're in on the Gulf too.

I see a coalition to build here! We can even co-opt the potential problems by promising land in the Conquered Territories (currently known as the Blue States)...

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MS has auto manufacturing, agriculture, and tourism.

LA has shipping (Gulf and MS River) and some of the largest petrochemical plants in the US, such as Exxon's plant in Baton Rouge.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:01 PM (e0xKF)

323 Fry's is OK if you must have a retail outlet. The help is hit or miss though.

Sadly, there are no Fry's near me on the East Coast. I hear nice things about them.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:01 PM (GQ8sn)

324 Silly twit is pissed that she took a month-long vacation she hadn't earned and her employer caned her when she returned.

Pics?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 04, 2013 12:02 PM (zF6Iw)

325 And don't lefties regularly tell us not to question their patriotism? Win-Win for the left, don'tcha think?


Posted by: mallfly at January 04, 2013 12:01 PM (bJm7W)

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ooooo..... I am SO using that....

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2013 12:02 PM (nELVU)

326 well, as a reichwinger myself, I just hope the price of spats doesn't go up.

Posted by: mallfly at January 04, 2013 12:03 PM (bJm7W)

327 Sadly, there are no Fry's near me on the East Coast. I hear nice things about them.

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I loved the one in Atlanta when I was stuck there for a week.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:03 PM (e0xKF)

328 didn't Biden say that paying taxes is patriotic?



Have the Obots noticed that Biden and Congress got raises? Why aren't they pissing and moaning about that?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 12:03 PM (UOM48)

329 Texas has oil. Alabama has auto manufacturing. Talk to LA and MS, they're in on the Gulf too.



I see a coalition to build here! We can even co-opt the potential
problems by promising land in the Conquered Territories (currently known
as the Blue States)...


Proving that I'm a) nuts, b) a geek, or c) both, I've actually gamed this out, some. Basically, the Texas Federation would start (as in: almost simultaneously) with TX, LA, OK, AR and maybe MS. From there, it wouldn't be long before AL and FL would petition to join, and possibly CO, NM, AZ, and UT. Not long after that, we get basically the rest of the South.

With the resulting energy resources, shipping lanes, military installations, etc., we'd be an economic powerhouse in no time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 12:04 PM (/eBe8)

330 Meh, I built my own this time a round.

Same here. I built my Pimp Hand rig back in 2009 and it still handles everything like a champ. Until Intel comes out with a room-temp superconducting processor, I'm good.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:04 PM (GQ8sn)

331 My HC deductible went from 2500/yr to 5000/yr. My diabetic wife who had 3 surgery last year and still faces several months of rehab is gonna have to find someplace else to squat.

This is great!
//

Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 12:04 PM (jvd3N)

332 She's pretty hawt. And TALL. I'm guessing there's some compensation going on here.


Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2013 11:39 AM (RD7QR)

yeah, i'd do her. George couldn't get a date on Match.Com if he didn't have a bank account.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 04, 2013 12:04 PM (wR+pz)

333 Arizona and Texas need to take New Mexico, then turn and take southern

California for a Pacific port. Then we would be unstoppable.

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Texas already does over $7billion a year in trade with Mexico--nearly as much as the entire GDP of MA. A Pacific port is unnecessary.
Our only interest in CA is their minerals. And maybe just because it'd be fun to have a serf state.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 04, 2013 12:04 PM (imtbm)

334 Sorta related. Driving mega hours for Christmas and back, there were lots of bumper stickers. One was: God Bless Johnny Cash.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 04, 2013 12:05 PM (tQHzJ)

335 @AllenG,

Missouri still counts as the South right? We have shipping lanes! (Also, corn, lots and lots of corn.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 12:05 PM (5BEp7)

336
How about loooking at it this way?


For two years, consumers got a stimulus due to the lower payroll tax. Now that's gone (rightfully so) and so consumer spending will be lower going forward since most Americans simply spend their take-home pay every pay cycle to live.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 04, 2013 12:05 PM (1Y+hH)

337
MS has auto manufacturing, agriculture, and tourism.

LA has shipping (Gulf and MS River) and some of the largest petrochemical plants in the US, such as Exxon's plant in Baton Rouge.


Alabama also has iron ore.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 04, 2013 12:05 PM (yiIja)

338 Our only interest in CA is their minerals. And maybe just because it'd be fun to have a serf state.

I say turn CA into a game preserve where you could hunt the most dangerous game of all...


...man!

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:06 PM (GQ8sn)

339 335 @AllenG,

Missouri still counts as the South right? We have shipping lanes! (Also, corn, lots and lots of corn.)

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Unfortunately, membership in the Southeastern Conference doesn't mean your state is in the South.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:06 PM (e0xKF)

340 >>>Fry's is OK if you must have a retail outlet. The help is hit or miss though.

>>>Sadly, there are no Fry's near me on the East Coast. I hear nice things about them.

The one consistent thing about the staff is they can spot someone who knows what they are talking about and you don't have to fight through the teenager "I know everything because I'm young 'tude"

I've had to cut down some Best Buy staff for ignorance combined with an arrogant attitude.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:06 PM (0q2P7)

341 Ok so, delimma...

Sit on my ass and wait for AR-15, or piss 2k on a M1A Socom...


Decisions... decisions... At least with the m1a I could hunt... the ar-15 would have been for "plinking." IYKWIM

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 04, 2013 12:06 PM (UZQM8)

342 And maybe just because it'd be fun to have a serf state.

I read that as "surf state."

Posted by: no good deed at January 04, 2013 12:07 PM (mjR67)

343 I've applied to Al Jazeera Gore for a loan.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:07 PM (wbmaj)

344 Not long after that, we get basically the rest of the South.

I actually recommend not getting FL and GA and being cautious with the rest of the South, 'cause demographics. Or at least, wait a while.

Hmm, I wonder if the old steel mills up in the B'ham area could be brought back to production... /ponders

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 04, 2013 12:07 PM (GBXon)

345 Sit on my ass and wait for AR-15, or piss 2k on a M1A Socom...

Oooh! M1A fo sho!


Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:08 PM (GQ8sn)

346 And AZ has copper and uranium.

And multiple firearms manufacturers.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 04, 2013 12:08 PM (8cJXl)

347 AllenG - your gonna want MO, NE, KA, and the Dakotas, might as well grab MT, WY, and ID at that point. I guess you could fence out KC and St Louis.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2013 12:08 PM (J7sV0)

348 We all some pictures of the Obama's in Hawaii and Michelle looked lovely in her bathing suit. Just like JFK and Jackie, we should be so proud of them.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 04, 2013 12:09 PM (48wze)

349 Oh yeah.

Fucking Romney!

Posted by: RWC at January 04, 2013 12:09 PM (fWAjv)

350 347 AllenG - your gonna want MO, NE, KA, and the Dakotas, might as well grab MT, WY, and ID at that point. I guess you could fence out KC and St Louis.

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Give St. Louis to Illinois.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:09 PM (e0xKF)

351 Chicago murders by neighborhood...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/b39rn28

Caution NY Slimes link

Posted by: luaP noR at January 04, 2013 12:09 PM (RKlJP)

352 You can plink with an M1A, you just do it at a click out.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2013 12:10 PM (J7sV0)

353 How about loooking at it this way?


For
two years, consumers got a stimulus due to the lower payroll tax. Now
that's gone (rightfully so) and so consumer spending will be lower going
forward since most Americans simply spend their take-home pay every pay
cycle to live.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 04, 2013 12:05 PM (1Y+hH)


And that stimulutive effect was intended to be temporary only. You don't keep stimulus as a permanent fixture. You stimulate, watch the recovery happen, then you let go.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:10 PM (GQ8sn)

354 #4 that's almost too tone-perfect to be parody. Do you think she's serious. Oh. My....

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 04, 2013 12:10 PM (qvify)

355 All yer paychecks...

Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 12:10 PM (jvd3N)

356 I wish my wife was so understanding on the issue of these taxes. I have been catching it-you can chalk up a divorce to this tax increase on this non-plutocrat.

Posted by: ejo at January 04, 2013 12:10 PM (GXvSO)

357 your gonna want MO, NE, KA, and the Dakotas, might as well grab MT, WY, and ID at that point.

That would be a fight. Not with the locals, but because of things kept there what fly and go BOOOOM.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 04, 2013 12:10 PM (GBXon)

358 I know Moron Nation is full of multibillionaires, but some of us have to try to support a family of four on $50K.

And some of us trying to support two on $22K. I get that the Dims need to feel the pain, but it doesn't help me much, either.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 04, 2013 12:10 PM (cVfX0)

359 341 USAAmmo still has AR's and 30-rd. mags at reasonable prices. Get some now

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:11 PM (XDC0v)

360 The SS tax cut was idiotic to begin with. I'm glad it wasn't made permanent.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 12:11 PM (HDgX3)

361 Cornyn: Partial Government Shutdown May be Needed to Wake Up Obama
http://is.gd/VDc3x5


Lol. He's awake, he just doesn't give a shit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 12:11 PM (ZKzrr)

362 yeah looking at exit data these folks knew what was coming and still decided to stick with O. fuck em. let them learn what "free shit" means.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 04, 2013 12:11 PM (yAor6)

363 I am serious. This 2% is the straw that will break a teetering marriage's back.

Posted by: ejo at January 04, 2013 12:11 PM (GXvSO)

364 Everyone noticing the increased deductions on their paystubs is R A C I S T !

Posted by: Lickmuffin at January 04, 2013 12:12 PM (bgsIY)

365 347 AllenG - your gonna want MO, NE, KA, and the Dakotas, might as well
grab MT, WY, and ID at that point. I guess you could fence out KC and St
Louis.


So the south and then a nice little spur into the mid and upper midwest?

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:12 PM (GQ8sn)

366 For the jackass back up the thread who told us to grow up because the 2% decrease in SS Tax should never have been in place to begin with. Ya are probably right, but the thing is asshole, we are not the ones running around like a Saint or Messiah telling the ignorant masses that he just saved them from having their taxes go up and it will only effect the evil 2%.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2013 12:12 PM (79ueO)

367 Blaming Obama for this is beyond idiotic. It was under Obama that this ***TEMPORARY*** tax cut was enacted. It was under Obama that this ***TEMPORARY*** tax cut was rescinded. The same people (Obama, Dem Senate, Rep House) repealed the tax cut they gave us.

I hate Obama as much as the next guy, but this is just stupid.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (HDgX3)

368 I think it would be more efficient if the govt simply took your whole paycheck and in return gave you something like ration stamps. If you're a highly paid worker, then you can get an extra 15gm chocolate ration, and an extra half gallon of gasoline in recognition of your stature.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (hc3eM)

369 >>>The SS tax cut was idiotic to begin with. I'm glad it wasn't made permanent.

I personally wish the SS/MC payroll taxes went away in their entirety and the whole thing was funded from the general fund.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (0q2P7)

370 341 USAAmmo still has AR's and 30-rd. mags at reasonable prices. Get some now


The USGI mags for $20? Are you sure they're still in stock and won't take 60-90 days to ship?

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (GQ8sn)

371 357, that's the point, well and food.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (J7sV0)

372 "MS has auto manufacturing, agriculture, and tourism."

Yeah, I wouldn't bank much on the tourism angle from MS. Other than Vicksburg and Natchez, there's just not much there. That blues trail thing is a complete waste of time and money (yours and the fed's andstate's (yours x2)).

It's a great source for ag and labor though. It would be a wonderful experiment for private education though since the public education system is a case study for Massive Fail.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (IgvLC)

373 Everybody oughta read this: http://tinyurl.com/bjfledm

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (XDC0v)

374 Missouri still counts as the South right? We have shipping lanes! (Also, corn, lots and lots of corn.)

I didn't go all the way with that scenario.

By the time the whole thing is done, you end up with essentially everything east of CA/WA/OR and a corner cut out for the NE States. Basically, look at the electoral map- if it's Red, it would end up in the Federation. Some blues, too, and I think one or two Reds in the NE (if there even are any anymore) might get left out.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (/eBe8)

375 Unfortunately, membership in the Southeastern Conference doesn't mean your state is in the South.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:06 PM (e0xKF)

Well I was referencing our honorary star on the confederate flag.But sure...NCAA sports works too I guess.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (5BEp7)

376
358
I know Moron Nation is full of multibillionaires, but some of us have to try to support a family of four on $50K.

And some of us trying to support two on $22K. I get that the Dims need to feel the pain, but it doesn't help me much, either.


Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 04, 2013 12:10 PM (cVfX0)

I understand well what you mean, it's gonna hit us hard too out here in the cornfields. =/ Hang in there, Cap.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (xw1VU)

377 360
The SS tax cut was idiotic to begin with. I'm glad it wasn't made permanent.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 12:11 PM (HDgX3)"I'm in between you and SH on this one. The cut was idiotic as you say, but so is the SS system.

Posted by: Wabbajack at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (Y3C5w)

378 >>>I hate Obama as much as the next guy, but this is just stupid.

You miss the point. We all know it, and were prepared for it. The idiots that gave us TFG for another four years were clueless. The point of the thread is to laugh at them while reality rifles through their wallet.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (0q2P7)

379 Tess, at a certain point, you have made enough money.

Posted by: Barky at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (ZWaLo)

380 My guess is that monocles served the same function as bifocals do. You used the monocle for close up work such as reading.
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 04, 2013 11:56 AM (Hx5uv)

_____

Nah, they're just cute

Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (DrC22)

381 363 I am serious. This 2% is the straw that will break a teetering marriage's back.
Posted by: ejo at January 04, 2013 12:11 PM (GXvSO)

Nah, people cannot afford divorce, it's too expensive

Posted by: Caustic at January 04, 2013 12:15 PM (/b8+5)

382 363 I am serious. This 2% is the straw that will break a teetering marriage's back.

-----

Ooof. I am sorry to hear that you're having trouble. I know it's not much, but a lot of marriage troubles come to a head this time of year, after visiting family stresses and all the spending tension around Christmas, even the ugly weather adds to depression and irritability...if you can hold on (by sheer will or counseling) til the spring, people often get more reasonable. It sounds silly, I know, but I've seen it happen.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 12:15 PM (b+8h9)

383 370 In stock and ready to rock: http://tinyurl.com/a9cnr4e

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:15 PM (XDC0v)

384 Yup, taxes went up and insurance premiums increased 12%. LOL. Enjoying the stunned reaction of Obama voters here.

Posted by: PJ at January 04, 2013 12:15 PM (ZWaLo)

385 Have the Obots noticed that Biden and Congress got raises? Why aren't they pissing and moaning about that?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 12:03 PM (UOM4



And all of the tax breaks to Goldman Sachs, GE, Hollywood and other big wigs and yet the Occuturds are silent. Along with the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 12:15 PM (1Jaio)

386 DO NOT Make it an anti Party commercial.... point it at Washington.... and as Obama IS the head of Washington and the one making the statement? The correct conclusions will be drawn by the Low Informaiton Voter.
Posted by: Romeo13

And this is what pisses me off about the Repubic party - they don't go on offense. Democrats are always in campaign mode plus they own the media. Republicans or better yet TEA party needs to cram this message to Americans again and again. It will take a lot of money but I would be happier donating to this then to this government theft.

Posted by: Cheri at January 04, 2013 12:15 PM (G+Wff)

387 By the way, who else thinks that Tax Withholding should be done away with?

Posted by: Wabbajack at January 04, 2013 12:16 PM (Y3C5w)

388
"With the resulting energy resources, shipping lanes, military installations, etc., we'd be an economic powerhouse in no time."

GA will be offering timber, access to the Atlantic, and Coca Cola. But someone is going to have to volunteer to douche the bluetards out of ATL as to not drain away all the benefits.

Posted by: Jaws at January 04, 2013 12:16 PM (4I3Uo)

389 Conservatives should be explaining that the extra 2% isn't even paying for SS. It's part of the general fund being spent on everything. It's a "tax", stupid.

Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2013 12:16 PM (VndSC)

390 My monocle makes me feel special. Like I'm better than all of you.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:16 PM (8sCoq)

391 OT, but we're approaching 400 comments and it's actually more or less related to the theme of this thread. I'm sure it's already been discussed here at the HQ and I missed it, but I found this linked over at Insty and my blood boiled.

Liberal chick: "The State is my Shepherd, I Shall Not Want..."
http://nation.foxnews.com/hippie/2013/01/02/liberal-woman-state-my-shepherd-i-shall-not-want

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:17 PM (4df7R)

392 It puts the lotion on its starfish.

Posted by: General Zod at January 04, 2013 12:17 PM (2+bRt)

393
You miss the point. We all know it, and were prepared for it. The idiots that gave us TFG for another four years were clueless. The point of the thread is to laugh at them while reality rifles through their wallet.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (0q2P7)

Exactly. It's the same shit as "If you like your Insurance ( or substitute Doctor), you can keep your Insurance ( or Doctor)". Ah bUllshit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2013 12:17 PM (79ueO)

394 "Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2013 12:16 PM (VndSC)"

Yes, and apparently, the Obamacare Investment tax is not earmarked for Healthcare.

Posted by: Wabbajack at January 04, 2013 12:17 PM (Y3C5w)

395 But someone is going to have to volunteer to douche the bluetards out of ATL as to not drain away all the benefits.

What benefits? I expect the Texas Federation's definition of Medicare and Social Security will be "Be nice to your family. You're going to need them."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 12:18 PM (/eBe8)

396 Conservatives should be explaining that the extra 2% isn't even paying for SS. It's part of the general fund being spent on everything. It's a "tax", stupid.
Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2013 12:16 PM (VndSC)


It's not worth it to try and explain that to the idiots on the left. They are too stupid -- genuinely stupid, not just ignorant -- to ever grasp the difference.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:18 PM (4df7R)

397 I see dead people--and the market beginning to nosedive on January 15.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:18 PM (wbmaj)

398 And fed-ex man just delivered me 5 new XDsc mags. Yay!!! Exile machine

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:18 PM (XDC0v)

399 By the way, who else thinks that Tax Withholding should be done away with?
Posted by: Wabbajack


I do. Everyone needs to write a big-ass check once a year to Uncle Bammy. If you didn't save up for it - off to debtor's prison you go, or Uncle Bammy takes all of your shit.

Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2013 12:18 PM (VndSC)

400 Did Warren Buffet's whore secretary have a net pay drop?

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 04, 2013 12:18 PM (zYHnI)

401 O/T: Things I learned today: Egypt has a nuclear reactor.

http://tinyurl.com/b4kkun7

In light of current events, kinda scary, no?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 04, 2013 12:19 PM (BBWjt)

402 I personally wish the SS/MC payroll taxes went away in their entirety and the whole thing was funded from the general fund.


Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (0q2P7)

____________
NO WAY!
The 47% that pay no income tax, at least pay SS/Medicare tax. Get rid of that and the 47% will contribute absolutely nothing. That's why I was opposed to the 2% cut to begin with. I want the FSA to pay at least payroll taxes.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 12:19 PM (HDgX3)

403 I'm comforted that my extra taxes are probably going to someone on SSI or disability that is defrauding the system like that guy down the street who is 100% " disabled" yet seems to be able to do lots of yard work.

Posted by: Max Entropy at January 04, 2013 12:19 PM (lZzeE)

404 "MS has auto manufacturing, agriculture, and tourism."

They'll also send me to prison for ten years for "trafficking" if I bring in a box of Sudafed without having a prescription for it, so fuck Mississippi tourism.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 12:19 PM (ZKzrr)

405 By the way, who else thinks that Tax Withholding should be done away with?

We had that talk yesterday.

Personally, I think it's a great idea. Show people exactly how much money they need to set aside to pay all their taxes. Make them write a check for each amount, not just one check that is a blanket one for all tax liabilities. Make them physically write out different "Pay To The Order Of" fields to teach them how many fucking governmental departments have their hands down their pockets.

Here's my take on what will happen:

People will be too broke by the time the first statement comes to pay ANY of their taxes. Why? The same people will find themselves suddenly "rich" and will promptly blow most or all of it on the usual stupid shit, leaving nothing left to cover what they owe. What the govt will do then is to auto-garnish their wages to make sure they have enough to pay their taxes, and then we're right back to square one again.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:20 PM (GQ8sn)

406 342
And maybe just because it'd be fun to have a serf state.

I read that as "surf state."
=========
Oh no: Serfs. We might need serfs in the New South. I mean, there exists--and always will exist--a certain number who want nothing more in life than to be secure, a minimal level of security will do, and their preferred method of security is to prostate themselves before another. Skin color is irrelevant, this attitude is engrained in mankind and finds better hold among some than others.

The FSA and the Democratic Party exist for this very reason.

This "Serf State" would provide "farms" for them to work, live and breed.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 04, 2013 12:20 PM (imtbm)

407 By the way, who else thinks that Tax Withholding should be done away with?

I should be, but never will be.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 12:20 PM (SY2Kh)

408 "I know Moron Nation is full of multibillionaires, but some of us have to try to support a family of four on $50K.And some of us trying to support two on $22K. I get that the Dims need to feel the pain, but it doesn't help me much, either."

I think there will be a lot more conversations here along these lines. Like someone above, I'm making this qualifier to everything I post on AoS going forward:

If you voted for Obama, I have less than zero sympathy for whatever financial fate may befall you. Pretty much the same if you didn't turn out to vote for Romney because you were too "principled" to vote for someone imperfect, or because you were lazy. OTOH, if you are a moron or 'ette here, I totally share your disgust, anxiety, etc.

Posted by: RM at January 04, 2013 12:20 PM (TRsME)

409 350
347 AllenG - your gonna want MO, NE, KA, and the Dakotas, might as well
grab MT, WY, and ID at that point. I guess you could fence out KC and St
Louis.



---



Give St. Louis to Illinois.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:09 PM (e0xKF)

Call it West St. Louis, Illinois.

Posted by: Tami at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (X6akg)

410 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1408101/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4

Just got an email from a friend. Blond chick in Star Trek trailer is playing Carol Marcus. Not the chick who died (?) with Gary Mitchell in the other episode.

So perhaps Kahn is back on the table

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (hO9ad)

411 You miss the point. We all know it, and were
prepared for it. The idiots that gave us TFG for another four years were
clueless. The point of the thread is to laugh at them while reality
rifles through their wallet.


Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (0q2P7)

_____________
I get the point. I just don't have to agree with it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (HDgX3)

412 "I do. Everyone needs to write a big-ass check once a year"

With the deadline within 30 days of the November general elections.

Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (HjPtV)

413 "If you voted for Obama, I have less than zero sympathy for whatever
financial fate may befall you. Pretty much the same if you didn't turn
out to vote for Romney because you were too "principled" to vote for
someone imperfect, or because you were lazy. OTOH, if you are a moron or
'ette here, I totally share your disgust, anxiety, etc."

yep. O voters and the folks who didnt turn out for Mitt (along with the 2% who went 3rd party) get zero sympathy from me. the 47% who voted for Mitt w/ me get my sympathies

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (yAor6)

414 Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:14 PM (0q2P7)

The irony in all this is that suddenly the party who was highly critical of the bush tax cuts was pushing keeping the bush tax cuts. And the party who wanted to keep the bush tax cuts suddenly didn't want to keep the bush tax cuts. They delftly switched sides.

Those newly minted college grads are taking a hit again. Not only have their been no bonuses and no raises but now the government is eating into their "measly 30 grand".

But hey those union teachers and other union folks are still the millionaires and billionaires that the dems are vociferously protecting. They were giving away millions to their progeny before 12/31. Wonder when the dems will realize there's gold in them there pension accounts?

Posted by: Caustic at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (/b8+5)

415
5 I've had a schadenboner over this since last night. Guess I should call a doctor.

You should seek medical care for any schadenboner lasting 4 hours or more. One reasonably sure cure is to think of Helen Thomas.

Naked.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (1hM1d)

416 Well yes dear working drones of the quasi-state, feel the burn. Your portion of the Payroll tax had to go up or the house of cards called Social Security would have collapsed under TFG's administration. So yes he has voted present again, kicked the can down the road, and boned you. You voted for it and got what you asked for.

Now I got to get back to writing the awesomely creepy neat science fiction story idea I dreamed up before it vanishes like money in Bernanke's hand.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:22 PM (fpSpD)

417 408 Yep. Refusing to vote Republican is another win in the Dem column. How hard is that to understand?

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:22 PM (XDC0v)

418 Proving that I'm a) nuts, b) a geek, or c) both, I've actually gamed this out, some. Basically, the Texas Federation would start (as in: almost simultaneously) with TX, LA, OK, AR and maybe MS. From there, it wouldn't be long before AL and FL would petition to join, and possibly CO, NM, AZ, and UT. Not long after that, we get basically the rest of the South.

With the resulting energy resources, shipping lanes, military installations, etc., we'd be an economic powerhouse in no time.


I've been doing the exact same thing and come to much the same conclusions. I've taken FL out of the Federation column though, after Nov. 6th. Not sure we can get CO either but if we have CO surrounded (same with NM) it can happen.

Mainly I'm plotting my own escape from New Yorkistan so I don't end up in the conquered territories. I loved living in TX back in the 80s, and assuming there are any jobs left in my field when IT happens, I'll need top be near a seaport. Houston is looking best for me right now.

Posted by: VerucaFluke at January 04, 2013 12:22 PM (7ObY1)

419 This is disturbing. I just received my Welfare Check and Food Stamps, but the amount decreased from December. Why did this happen ???

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 04, 2013 12:22 PM (48wze)

420 410 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1408101/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4

Just got an email from a friend. Blond chick in Star Trek trailer is playing Carol Marcus. Not the chick who died (?) with Gary Mitchell in the other episode.

So perhaps Kahn is back on the table

---

In the extended Star Trek universe, Gary Mitchell is the person whom Kirk suspected of originally sending Carol Marcus his way.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:22 PM (e0xKF)

421 399 By the way, who else thinks that Tax Withholding should be done away with?

-----

We'd have to collect the taxes monthly or quarterly, or maybe just attaching a bill where the pay stub is now. Otherwise we'd end up building a whole lot of debtors prisons and paying them with IOUs.

I kind of like the idea of a bill where your paystub is now (or just handed out by your employer if you get direct deposit). People absolutely would fall behind, and the feeling wouldn't be as harsh as a big-ass check once a year, but it would be a start.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at January 04, 2013 12:23 PM (b+8h9)

422 So perhaps Kahn is back on the table
Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (hO9ad)


In the trailer they have the shot of new!Kirk and new!Spock holding their hands up on either side of that transparent wall, just like at the end of Wrath of Kahn.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:23 PM (4df7R)

423
By "benefits", I mean the economic and liberty benefits of The Great Texas and Southern Realignment, not entitlements. Help the helpless, not the clueless...and do it on your own private dime.

Hrmmmm...dime. are we going to need another name for the new currency?

Posted by: Jaws at January 04, 2013 12:23 PM (4I3Uo)

424 If you voted for Obama, I have less than zero sympathy for whatever financial fate may befall you. Pretty much the same if you didn't turn out to vote for Romney because you were too "principled" to vote for someone imperfect, or because you were lazy. OTOH, if you are a moron or 'ette here, I totally share your disgust, anxiety, etc.
Posted by: RM

My future conversations will be thus:
them: "bitch, bitch, bitch"
me: "did you vote for Obama?"
them: "yes"
me: "then FUCK YOU"

Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2013 12:23 PM (VndSC)

425 Posted by: Tami at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (X6akg)

So I'd have to move to what? Wash, MO? Although the City and the county are divided so you could easily carve out the county, get Agrabusiness, and a large scale production plant .

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 12:23 PM (5BEp7)

426 Brandon.

Gary Mitchell, "I mapped out her whole campaign."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:23 PM (fpSpD)

427 According to Gallop, 65% of Americans believe that 2013 will be a year of economic difficulty.

At first, I thought that meant that Obama obviously rigged the election, because there's no way that 65% of the people would re-elect someone who is destroying our nation.

But then I remembered the free shit army, and the fact that everyone I know who worships Lord Obama still likes him, and I realized that Sir Golfs a Lot has, with the aid of the media, completely disconnected himself with the economy.

No matter what he does, no matter how bad it get's it's the "Republicans" fault, and masses eat it up like free iphones.

We are so screwed.

Posted by: shibumi at January 04, 2013 12:24 PM (z63Tr)

428 The irony in all this is that suddenly the party who
was highly critical of the bush tax cuts was pushing keeping the bush
tax cuts. And the party who wanted to keep the bush tax cuts suddenly
didn't want to keep the bush tax cuts. They delftly switched sides.

Posted by: Caustic at January 04, 2013 12:21 PM (/b8+5)

________________
Who in the GOP didn't want to keep the Bush tax cuts?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 04, 2013 12:24 PM (HDgX3)

429 Liberal chick: "The State is my Shepherd, I Shall Not Want..."

http://nation.foxnews.com/hippie/2013/01/02/liberal-woman-state-my-shepherd-i-shall-not-want

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:17 PM (4df7R)

**Heh..funneh. Wanna punch her in the head.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 12:25 PM (jvd3N)

430 It's not Khan! It's Garth of Iza!

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 12:25 PM (Tt6ky)

431 Monocles do need to make a comeback, and how about sun monocles, for the monopoly man on the go?

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at January 04, 2013 12:26 PM (obHYs)

432 @427 according to exit data the D+6 electorate that helped O get his 2nd term admitted the economy sucked and that Mitt being President would likely lead to recovery. however they decided to vote for O anyways. scary stuff.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 04, 2013 12:26 PM (yAor6)

433 So I'd have to move to what? Wash, MO? Although the
City and the county are divided so you could easily carve out the
county, get Agrabusiness, and a large scale production plant .




Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 12:23 PM (5BEp7)

There ya go. But wait until we move there....and my daughter gets out of the city of St. Louis .

Posted by: Tami at January 04, 2013 12:26 PM (X6akg)

434 415


5 I've had a schadenboner over this since last night. Guess I should call a doctor.



You should seek medical care for any schadenboner lasting 4 hours or more. One reasonably sure cure is to think of Helen Thomas.




Just imagine Mooch wearing nothing but a sweaty, nasty thong.


You're welcome.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 12:27 PM (UOM48)

435 "Monocles do need to make a comeback, and how about sun monocles, for the monopoly man on the go?"

And stain-resistant spats!

Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2013 12:27 PM (HjPtV)

436 This "Serf State" would provide "farms" for them to work, live and breed.

Nuh-uh. We played that game. Didn't work out too well.

You're all in, or you're out. That's how it has to be.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 04, 2013 12:27 PM (GBXon)

437 NO WAY!
The 47% that pay no income tax


Yeah I get that argument. But in my mind, the reason why SS has been unassailable as a program is for two basic reasons.

1. Everybody pays into it and so feels it is "their money"
2. Everybody (who lives long enough) draws from it.

If I can't get rid of it outright, then I want it to be what it really is, a welfare program. Not everybody gets it, and it is payed for using normal (not special set aside funding) funding. Decoupling the taxpayers feelings of entitlement to the program. Then maybe we can get rid of it someday. That along with a separate issue of flattening the tax rate. so that a far greater portion of the US has "skin in the game" to quote someone notable for giving reasons why taxes have to be raised.

As it stands it doesn't really matter. It is too late for all of that. SS and our tax system will bankrupt us and send us into collapse. So their is no long term solution to either problem that can be seriously entertained.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:27 PM (0q2P7)

438 **Heh..funneh. Wanna punch her in the head.

I'm pretty sure that was satire.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 12:27 PM (SY2Kh)

439 First Paycheck Of The Year: Schadenfreude Is A Poor Substitute For Cash . . . but it does keeps me warm at night.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 04, 2013 12:28 PM (imtbm)

440 So, what's the over/under date on whenKing Threeputt McStumblefuck reinstates the payroll tax holiday by royal decree?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (IgvLC)

441 *spinning in chair*

So this is a silly request, but could we get a post at some point today about the CT town that's going to burn violent video games to banish evil spirits or whatever? Because that's a story that's just begging for mockery, and it really needs its own platform.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (4df7R)

442 438
**Heh..funneh. Wanna punch her in the head.

I'm pretty sure that was satire.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 12:27 PM (SY2Kh)
**Yeah I know. I was just gonna do it in a satirical kind of way.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (jvd3N)

443 Posted by: Tami at January 04, 2013 12:26 PM (X6akg)

WTF is your daughter doing anywhere near the City of St. Louis?!?! Even in College I opted to live at home and drive in to avoid living in that crime ridden cestpool.
(Don't let the fancy homes in Lafayette Square, Lindell and Shaw fool you. Still a cest pool.)

Interesting note. I know quite a few "young hip" people who tried to live in the city. Then the children came, and they looked around and fled. The wife and I simply set up shop in the suburbs from the start.

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (5BEp7)

444 Just wait for the political erection to subside, then no amount of stimulus will help the dim witted..

Posted by: Clemenza at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (Q8Pu5)

445 neither party wanted to extend the payroll tax cut

Posted by: JDP at January 04, 2013 12:30 PM (8HhF2)

446 I'm only working part time, so the hit was a few bucks. Still, I'm going to have to explain to teh kittehs the snacks cutbacks.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 04, 2013 12:30 PM (wwsoB)

447 @444, shit I own one, maybe time to bore clean..

Posted by: Clemenza at January 04, 2013 12:30 PM (Q8Pu5)

448 >>>So perhaps Kahn is back on the table

I've seen teh trailer and I'm almost positive it's Kahn.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:30 PM (0q2P7)

449 440
So, what's the over/under date on whenKing Threeputt McStumblefuck reinstates the payroll tax holiday by royal decree?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (IgvLC)
**Wouldn't doubt it...He is our hero and savior after all.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 12:31 PM (jvd3N)

450 446 I'm only working part time, so the hit was a few bucks. Still, I'm going to have to explain to teh kittehs the snacks cutbacks.

---

They'll be okay with it to your face... then they'll plan on killing you and chewing said face off.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:31 PM (e0xKF)

451 In the extended Star Trek universe, Gary Mitchell is the person whom Kirk suspected of originally sending Carol Marcus his way.

Oh, I didn't know that. Was this like a "I'm sorry bout that time I became a god and tried to kill you" think or before that?

In the trailer they have the shot of new!Kirk and new!Spock holding
their hands up on either side of that transparent wall, just like at the
end of Wrath of Kahn.


I'm not sure they do. You only see the area around their elbows, so I assumed it was someone else.

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2013 12:31 PM (hO9ad)

452 The current income tax system is unconstitutional anyways. Oh, the government can tax income, sure. But the government cannot use the incoem tax to devise what is effectively a violation of the Constitution's prohibition on per capita, or direct, taxation. In other words, a flat rate income tax would be Constitutional, but taxing different people at different rates is not Constitutional.

At one time, pre-FDR, the Supreme Court understood this. But ever since the infamous switch-in-time, the Court has failed to discuss this principle in its rulings, just as in the recent ObamaCare decision.

What do you think a prohibition on direct, per capita taxation is for?

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 12:32 PM (Tt6ky)

453 Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:27 PM (0q2P7)

Meh, the "Medicaid Spend Down" will just get replaced with the "SS Spend Down"

People Cheat. (Does anyone have the stats on how much Medicaid goes to elderly people in nursing homes? Last I looked it was a lot.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 12:32 PM (5BEp7)

454 446
I'm only working part time, so the hit was a few bucks. Still, I'm going to have to explain to teh kittehs the snacks cutbacks.



Posted by: kbdabear at January 04, 2013 12:30 PM (wwsoB



Among the new laws that just passed, Kansas won't allow anyone to own more than four kittehs. Cat women hardest hit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 12:32 PM (UOM48)

455 >>>So perhaps Kahn is back on the table

I've seen teh trailer and I'm almost positive it's Kahn.


Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:30 PM (0q2P7)

JJ Abrams is fucking with things he does not understand. ST2:WoK was perfect and does not need to be re-sequel-ized in any way.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:32 PM (GQ8sn)

456 Everybody here just worry's about pussy's?

Posted by: Clemenza at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (Q8Pu5)

457 451 In the extended Star Trek universe, Gary Mitchell is the person whom Kirk suspected of originally sending Carol Marcus his way.

Oh, I didn't know that. Was this like a "I'm sorry bout that time I became a god and tried to kill you" think or before that?

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Before that, at Starfleet Academy. He and Mitchell were good friends well before he became a Q.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (e0xKF)

458 I'm not sure they do. You only see the area around their elbows, so I assumed it was someone else.
Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2013 12:31 PM (hO9ad)


I assume it's them only because it's such a memorable moment from the original. And if I'm not mistaken I believe they're doing the live long and prosper thing. Admittedly I saw it weeks ago, when I went to see "The Hobbit," so my memory's a bit fuzzy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (4df7R)

459 Methos, in the TOS episode it went like

Gary Mitchell, "I planned her whole campaign."

James Kirk, "I almost married her."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (fpSpD)

460 Just wait for the political erection to subside, then no amount of stimulus will help the dim witted..


Posted by: Clemenza at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (Q8Pu5)



Their stupidity seems to keep them insulated from most economics. I keep asking what will it take for their brains to function even a little bit and see reality.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (1Jaio)

461 Isn't Ace usually up around noon thirty?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (UOM48)

462 Kansas won't allow anyone to own more than four kittehs.

WTF.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (ZKzrr)

463 442 438 **Heh..funneh. Wanna punch her in the head.

I'm pretty sure that was satire.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 12:27 PM (SY2Kh)


**Yeah I know. I was just gonna do it in a satirical kind of way.


Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (jvd3N)

NO.... its a valid Comedic Form! With a long and distinguished history!

Sooo... just slap em up side the head.... and call it COMEDY! Say you were JOKEING!

Posted by: From the Moe Howard School of Political Discourse at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (lZBBB)

464 This thread has lost its bearings.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (wbmaj)

465 Oh, duh.

I actually read the imdb page this time.

Benedict Cumberbach is listed as "Kahn (rumored)"

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (hO9ad)

466 462 Kansas won't allow anyone to own more than four kittehs.

WTF.

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I guess Kansas is off the list when you decide to escape from Indy.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (e0xKF)

467 just waiting for the temp to hit 40

then we ride

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (8sCoq)

468 Everybody here just worry's about pussy's?


Posted by: Clemenza at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (Q8Pu5)


Galore

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (1Jaio)

469 It's not Khan or Mitchell, it's Garth of Iza. What's so hard to understand about that?

One of these days, you'll see I was right. You'll all see!

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 12:35 PM (Tt6ky)

470 AoSHQ threads don't have bearings. We just go where life takes us.

Posted by: JDTAY at January 04, 2013 12:35 PM (a0nis)

471 Jane D'oh Ace mentioned something about watching on Netflix the movie Wasabi! in yesterday's OSS 117 thread. So he might have been up late watching movies and then emulating Jean Reno's skills in dealing with Yakuza.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:35 PM (fpSpD)

472 Their stupidity seems to keep them insulated from most economics.

Your WIC coupon is going to get you milk no matter how much it costs.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 12:35 PM (ZKzrr)

473 so who plays Khan?

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:35 PM (8sCoq)

474 i mean that fine Corinthian leather guy set the bar

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:35 PM (8sCoq)

475 I am laughing with glee at the Obamabots in my Facebook feed who are complaining about their newly-minted tax increase after they spent the entire year waving the bloody shirt for...tax increases.

Enjoy it, Obots! You want it, you got it.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Posted by: Good Lt at January 04, 2013 12:36 PM (iwHxr)

476 Benedict Cumberbach

Before I forget, I just wanted to mention that this is possibly the most awesome name for an actor ever. Besides Basil Rathbone, can you think of a more quintessentially British name?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:36 PM (4df7R)

477 474 i mean that fine Corinthian leather guy set the bar

---

Quien es mas macho? Senor Lamas o senor Mantalban?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:36 PM (e0xKF)

478 OT. Apparently racism gets you the skanks.
http://is.gd/16LfmL

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 12:37 PM (ZKzrr)

479
It will take a lot of money but I would be happier donating to this then to this government theft.

It would be easier and cheaper to start buying off FSA voters. We need to 'hire' more 'community organizers'.

Posted by: Entropy at January 04, 2013 12:37 PM (TULs6)

480 Among the new laws that just passed, Kansas won't allow anyone to own more than four kittehs. Cat women hardest hit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
How are they going to enforce that? My kittehs are very adept at hiding.

Posted by: Cheri at January 04, 2013 12:37 PM (G+Wff)

481 Ew, what are O-bots doing in your Facebook feed? They must be purged!

I keep a few Paulnuts in mine, but whatevs.

Posted by: JDTAY at January 04, 2013 12:37 PM (a0nis)

482 478 OT. Apparently racism gets you the skanks.
http://is.gd/16LfmL

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No, it gets you paychecks from ESPN and Fox Sports that lets you buy hookers.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:37 PM (e0xKF)

483 464 This thread has lost its bearings.
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (wbmaj)


Can a thread have bearings?

Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (DrC22)

484 again if the payroll tax is the one being referred i dunno that the election made a difference on this specifically cuz neither party pushed for extending the holiday

Posted by: JDP at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (8HhF2)

485 The fiscal cliff could have been avoided by fixing the problem in the Eighties, but because the math said it could be done the political impetus was not there.

Now, the math says you are fucked, so the political will is also not there, but for a different set of reasons.

Collapse of the blue model state is inevitable.

Move to a red State.

Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (EWsrI)

486 What do you think a prohibition on direct, per capita taxation is for?

The 16th Amendment does away with said prohibition.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (SY2Kh)

487 Don't get too happy at the tax increases. Only people who get a paycheck are complaining about them. Most Obama voters won't pay it.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (Tt6ky)

488 OT. Apparently racism gets you the skanks.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 12:37 PM (ZKzrr)


All you need to do is watch a typical hip hop video and listen to the lyrics to know that.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (4df7R)

489 Now imagine if all these people could blame it on us. They can't, and now the real fight begins.

Posted by: sanity at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (RVjIg)

490 461 Isn't Ace usually up around noon thirty?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (UOM4


Define "up"

Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (DrC22)

491 Cheri, the Federal government has been granted the power to manage the cat population of the Hemingway house in Key West. Top men are working on providing those cats with more rests and putting them in cages at night. Top. Men.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (fpSpD)

492 Speculating on this New Confederacy map. Just a few issues, certainly not as bad as the Original Republic had. Sorry about Northern Illinois, but you have to go in with Chaga/WI (part) and MN. But there's a clear cut across Meeshigan, better'n half of Ohio, all but a slice of Indiana, big chunk of PA, with, of course, liberated WV.

Uphill from Denver is just going to have to be like Danzig. Can't see a way to connect their dot to the western fringe. And Iowa, that's real spotty. Sadly the Great Lakes shoreline looks like the new Red Sea, more ways than one.

All in all, not bad at all, cartographically. Makes a lot more sense than Yerp, or the M.E.

Posted by: comatus at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (qaVK+)

493 I think there will be a lot more conversations here along these lines. Like someone above, I'm making this qualifier to everything I post on AoS going forward: If you voted for Obama, I have less than zero sympathy for whatever financial fate may befall you. Pretty much the same if you didn't turn out to vote for Romney because you were too "principled" to vote for someone imperfect, or because you were lazy. OTOH, if you are a moron or 'ette here, I totally share your disgust, anxiety, etc.

I second the motion.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (zF6Iw)

494 490 461 Isn't Ace usually up around noon thirty?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2013 12:33 PM (UOM4


Define "up"

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"Awake", not "screwing a hobo corpse".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (e0xKF)

495 Collapse of the blue model state is inevitable.

Move to a red State.
Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (EWsrI)

Actually, they'll just bailout the blue states so it doesn't matter.

Posted by: Caustic at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (/b8+5)

496 "Kansas won't allow anyone to own more than four kittehs."

good, they're evil anyways

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (yAor6)

497 ST2:WoK was perfect and does not need to be re-sequel-ized in any way.

Well I should probably explain why I think almost certainly it is Kahn.

SPOILER

In the opening of the trailer the antagonist is recruiting. And he is doing so by promising a cure to some incurable ailment suffered by the daughter of his potential recruit, Kahn possesses the necessary genetic modification technology to cure almost any disease.

In the mid trailer Spock is seen trying to dormantize a volcano and gets stuck in it while it is erupting. Rather than be rescued he sites the violation to the prime directive of exposing Enterprise and states the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

In the final part the antagonist is monologging and states "You would do anything for your family" I take this as a double entandre not only referring to how he gains supporters but also to all the genetically altered humans who considered themselves brothers and sisters.

/SPOILER

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (0q2P7)

498 464 This thread has lost its bearings.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:34 PM (wbmaj)


*chucks a handful of ball bearings into the thread*

Better?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:40 PM (4df7R)

499 Schaden. Freude.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 04, 2013 12:40 PM (8/DeP)

500 What? The 16th Amendment does not do away with direct capitation. It does away with apportionment.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 12:40 PM (Tt6ky)

501 Speaking of Pussy, Is there anything more attractive than a man that can fix stuff? I just spent two hours tearing apart out dryer and fixin it. Runs like a champ. Now come on ladies, you know you like it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:40 PM (l86i3)

502 And Iowa, that's real spotty.

Burn everything east of I-35, including Des Moines.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (ZKzrr)

503 Now imagine if all these people could blame it on us. They can't, and now the real fight begins.
Posted by: sanity at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (RVjIg)


Do you live in reality, sanity? Of course they'll blame it on "us."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (4df7R)

504 Anna, I forgot about that. Wonder what their paychecks are like? Probably better that we don't know.

Posted by: Cheri at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (G+Wff)

505 Fat City temps are up 5 degrees in the last 20 mins- soon the peaceful suburban quiet will be rent asunder by the roar of my Street Performance pipes

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (8sCoq)

506 "Awake", not "screwing a hobo corpse".
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:39 PM (e0xKF)


BTW, just what is a "baton rouge"?

Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (DrC22)

507 Bearings? I hear Schweinfurt has a few rolling around.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (fpSpD)

508 489 Now imagine if all these people could blame it on us. They can't, and now the real fight begins.
Posted by: sanity at January 04, 2013 12:38 PM (RVjIg)

Why can't they? Everything is blamed on the Republicans. The next meme is "Why didn't the Republicans, if they knew the dems were going off the rails, step up and fix things? Why did they allow this to happen?"

Posted by: Caustic at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (/b8+5)

509

In the opening of the trailer the antagonist is
recruiting. And he is doing so by promising a cure to some incurable
ailment suffered by the daughter of his potential recruit, Kahn
possesses the necessary genetic modification technology to cure almost
any disease.

In the mid trailer Spock is seen trying to
dormantize a volcano and gets stuck in it while it is erupting. Rather
than be rescued he sites the violation to the prime directive of
exposing Enterprise and states the needs of the many outweigh the needs
of the few.

In the final part the antagonist is monologging and
states "You would do anything for your family" I take this as a double
entandre not only referring to how he gains supporters but also to all
the genetically altered humans who considered themselves brothers and
sisters.



So it's a combination of Space Seed and WoK in one film?

DO NOT WANT!

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (GQ8sn)

510 What? The 16th Amendment does not do away with direct capitation. It does away with apportionment.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from
whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States,
and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 12:42 PM (SY2Kh)

511 OSP you big tease!

Posted by: Cheri at January 04, 2013 12:42 PM (G+Wff)

512 BTW, just what is a "baton rouge"?
Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (DrC22)

I'm thinkin a red billyclub.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:42 PM (l86i3)

513 OSP, hewer and smithy of words, is also Mr. Fix It.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:42 PM (fpSpD)

514 OSP you big tease!
Posted by: Cheri at January 04, 2013 12:42 PM (G+Wff)


I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin, Check it out.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:43 PM (l86i3)

515 Nood Headlines at Drudge:




Unemployment up to 7.8%

Debt Hits $16,432,706,000,000.00



..... and a Happy New Year




Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2013 12:43 PM (nELVU)

516 512 BTW, just what is a "baton rouge"?
Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (DrC22)

I'm thinkin a red billyclub.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:42 PM (l86i3)


Oh. I must have a dirty mind.

Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:43 PM (DrC22)

517 HP

Apportionment =/= direct taxation. These terms have different meanings.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 12:43 PM (Tt6ky)

518 Speaking of Pussy, Is there anything more attractive than a man that can
fix stuff? I just spent two hours tearing apart out dryer and fixin it.
Runs like a champ. Now come on ladies, you know you like it.


I killed a spider in the corner of the living room. That's usually a baby-oil massage from the wife for me.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:43 PM (GQ8sn)

519 Anna can you tell me anything about this F-16's to Egypt deal that doesn't just seem retarded?

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:44 PM (XDC0v)

520 Quien es mas macho? Senor Lamas o senor Mantalban?

Senor Dennehy.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 04, 2013 12:44 PM (zF6Iw)

521
I killed a spider in the corner of the living room. That's usually a baby-oil massage from the wife for me.
Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:43 PM (GQ8sn)


Well see, there ya go, it's a niche, all the goodns got one.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:44 PM (l86i3)

522 "Republicans, aka the whipping boy party"

Someone wrote that in the email explaining why they divorced the republican party.

Posted by: Caustic at January 04, 2013 12:44 PM (/b8+5)

523 DAve, its our money paying most of the price tag. Of course its retarded.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:45 PM (fpSpD)

524 My favorite part of that DU post is the "I don't feel comfortable with" part. High-quality self parody.

I put on a hazmat suit and went to the original post for further hilarity. I learned a new word! "Teaorists!" Isn't that clever?

Also watch for the latest leftist FB meme:

"The West won the world not by the superiority
of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in
applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact,
non-Westerners never do"
-Samuel P Huntington

I pretty much didn't even know where to start with that one. Especially since it was posted by a chick.

Posted by: Filly at January 04, 2013 12:45 PM (/Mvc7)

525 I wish unemployment were actually 7.8%, that would be tolerable.

Posted by: JDTAY at January 04, 2013 12:45 PM (a0nis)

526 522 "Republicans, aka the whipping boy party"

Someone wrote that in the email explaining why they divorced the republican party.
Posted by: Caustic at January 04, 2013 12:44 PM (/b8+5)


That's hawt!

Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:45 PM (DrC22)

527 Speaking of Pussy, Is there anything more attractive than a man that can fix stuff?


*sidles over* Hi. How you doin'?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 04, 2013 12:45 PM (VtjlW)

528 Cheri, the Federal government has been granted the power to manage the
cat population of the Hemingway house in Key West. Top men are working
on providing those cats with more rests and putting them in cages at
night. Top. Men.


Check the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 9, Chapter 1, Subchapter A, Part 3, Specifications for the Humane Handling, Care, Treatment, and Transportation of Dogs and Cats.

And those Founding Fathers with their ideas of limited government?

Heh. Schmucks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 12:46 PM (QKKT0)

529 Well see, there ya go, it's a niche, all the goodns got one.

What the wife hasn't figured out is that I'm also "spider farming" on the sly!


Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:46 PM (GQ8sn)

530 Here, somebody take these scissors and go cut the head Ewok out of that dried puddle of Valu-Rite and pudding.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 04, 2013 12:46 PM (yiIja)

531 I gotta admit, even though I knew this tax was coming, I didn't think about its political implications. People seem to be genuinely surprised that, despite Obama's promises, their taxes just went up.

For once, their ignorance benefits us? Glad to see #whyismypaychecklessthisweek trending on Twitter.

Posted by: Aaron at January 04, 2013 12:47 PM (Tlix5)

532 What the wife hasn't figured out is that I'm also "spider farming" on the sly!


Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:46 PM (GQ8sn)

Deviance has no bounds.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:47 PM (l86i3)

533 Cicero, the Fed was granted the right under the Interstate Commerce Clause to manage the cats as circus animals. That is even more screwed up than what you posted.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:47 PM (fpSpD)

534

ot

Was scanning some online radio stations.

A Michigan station just played an entire ad (for the MI National Guard) in spanish. Zero english.

Poor America.


Posted by: beach at January 04, 2013 12:47 PM (LpQbZ)

535 WTF is your daughter doing anywhere near the City of
St. Louis?!?! Even in College I opted to live at home and drive in to
avoid living in that crime ridden cestpool. (Don't let the fancy homes in Lafayette Square, Lindell and Shaw fool you. Still a cest pool.)

Interesting
note. I know quite a few "young hip" people who tried to live in the
city. Then the children came, and they looked around and fled. The wife
and I simply set up shop in the suburbs from the start.




Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 04, 2013 12:29 PM (5BEp7)

She's teaching at a charter school.
I was born and raised in Crestwood.....hubby is from several different places in St. Louis (county). His mom and her husband live about an hour outside of St. Louis....which is probably where we'll move to next year, and get the F outta the NE.

Posted by: Tami at January 04, 2013 12:48 PM (X6akg)

536 I divorced the GOP as well. I see the USGovt as the new George III. If you read the Declaration, particularly the signatories' enumerated grievances against the crown, you'd be surprised how many of them seem to be manifesting themselves once again.

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:48 PM (8sCoq)

537 Filly - that's an easy one, ask your FB friend why then millions of "non-Westerners" keep coming TO America instead of fleeing it, and why no other system superior to Western capitalism has yet been developed. It's not like we forced every other nation in the world to adopt free markets at gunpoint. Jesus.

Posted by: rockmom at January 04, 2013 12:48 PM (aBlZ1)

538 Heh ... Instapundit's screen cap of Drudge's headline pic;

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/160904/

Posted by: kbdabear at January 04, 2013 12:49 PM (wwsoB)

539 536 I divorced the GOP as well. I see the USGovt as the new George III. If you read the Declaration, particularly the signatories' enumerated grievances against the crown, you'd be surprised how many of them seem to be manifesting themselves once again.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:48 PM (8sCoq)


Are you allowed to use big words on AOSHQ?

Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:49 PM (DrC22)

540 I divorced the GOP as well. I see the USGovt as the new George III. If you read the Declaration, particularly the signatories' enumerated grievances against the crown, you'd be surprised how many of them seem to be manifesting themselves once again.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:48 PM (8sCoq)

Well then, it may be go time.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:49 PM (l86i3)

541 536 Another vote for the Democratic candidate

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:50 PM (XDC0v)

542 I see the USGovt as the new George III. If you read the Declaration,
particularly the signatories' enumerated grievances against the crown,
you'd be surprised how many of them seem to be manifesting themselves
once again.


Are we still at the tragedy phase, or have we reached farce?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2013 12:50 PM (QKKT0)

543 Deviance has no bounds.

Nor does my taste in Johnson's products. I prefer the cocoa butter gel. Doesn't spill and smells nice.

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:50 PM (GQ8sn)

544 #534 Soon you will need a passporet to travel into Michigan. But why would you do that when you can go to Illinois?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:50 PM (wbmaj)

545 EC-209, the slightly more buggy prototype of the ED-209.

OmniCorp.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:51 PM (fpSpD)

546 544 #534 Soon you will need a passporet to travel into Michigan. But why would you do that when you can go to Illinois?
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:50 PM (wbmaj)

Why would you go to Michigan or Illinois.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:51 PM (l86i3)

547 Divorcing the Republican Party is like going to prison and divorcing the AB. People join for a very good reason

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:51 PM (XDC0v)

548 #544-I meant passport. I'm not sure what language "passporet" is, but I don't think its Spanish.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:52 PM (wbmaj)

549 >*sidles over* Hi. How you doin'?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 04, 2013 12:45 PM (VtjlW)

sorry? I didn't hear you. I was too busy standing here looking heroic, pipe wrench in my hand, my white sleeveless tee smudged with motor oil and a little sawdust, my loose fit Levis hanging so low on my hips you can get just a peek of my magnificent pubic mane

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:52 PM (8sCoq)

550 arrrgggghhhhhhhh


One of the people involved in this thing where I want to slap everyone uses ellipses to end the last sentence of every email he send.


Urge. To. Stomp. Rising.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 04, 2013 12:52 PM (VtjlW)

551 Another vote for the Democratic candidate

They're all Democratic candidates.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2013 12:52 PM (69Mdf)

552 #546 My point exactly.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (wbmaj)

553
"We'd have to collect the taxes monthly or quarterly, or maybe just attaching a bill where the pay stub is now"
And drop the employer's portion - show people what they're really not getting...

Posted by: Jess1 at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (lbiWb)

554 Ew, what are O-bots doing in your Facebook feed? They must be purged!



I keep a few Paulnuts in mine, but whatevs.

Posted by: JDTAY at January 04, 2013 12:37 PM (a0nis)




Why are you on Facebook period? It's run by an Obozo loving douche. Don't feed the beast and starve all of its minions

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (1Jaio)

555 Fat City temps are up 5 degrees in the last 20 mins- soon the peaceful suburban quiet will be rent asunder by the roar of my Street Performance pipes
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (8sCoq) It's a balmy 1 degree here. Headed down to Lakewood this afternoon, and bringing rock to the masses tomorrow night. Have a good ride, Jones.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (1Y+hH)

556 Captain! I cannae giva ye anymore! She has a gone elliptical on us!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (fpSpD)

557 T'is a pity they didn't go up more. It's time for the pigs to realize what it costs to fill their trough's.

Let it burn, baby. Raise my taxes - I'll find a way to pay them - but make sure that EVERYBODY feels the heat.

Pig-feed ain't cheap. Let them learn that.

Remember the "Balanced Budget Amendment?" It's time to demand that we get one of those, including a clause that says "first off, there HAS TO BE a budget, every year..."

Posted by: RobM1981 at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (4WC+3)

558 my loose fit Levis hanging so low on my hips you can get just a peek of my magnificent pubic mane
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:52 PM (8sCoq)



I'm not calling it Simba.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (VtjlW)

559 I voted for Mitt even though I can't stand that stupid fucker, but no more RINOs for me no matter what.

Fuck the gop and its weak shit liars and phonies.

Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (EWsrI)

560 EC-209, the slightly more buggy prototype of the ED-209.

OmniCorp.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:51 PM (fpSpD)


I can walk down stairs!

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:54 PM (GQ8sn)

561 Oh, My Queen, did you get a suitable list of household tools yesterday?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 04, 2013 12:54 PM (yiIja)

562 It's time to demand that we get one of those, including a clause that says "first off, there HAS TO BE a budget, every year..."
Posted by: RobM1981 at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (4WC+3)



It's already federal law that there has to be a budget every year. You see how well that works.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 04, 2013 12:55 PM (VtjlW)

563 I voted for Mitt even though I can't stand that stupid fucker, but no more RINOs for me no matter what.

Fuck the gop and its weak shit liars and phonies.
Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (EWsrI)

Yeah, to get me back they will have to trot out someone to thr right of atilla the Hun.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:55 PM (l86i3)

564 However, my very favorite FB post from a leftist remains, and I quote, "Be as religious as you want, but as soon as you show intolerance, I'M DONE WITH YOU."


Posted by: Filly at January 04, 2013 12:55 PM (/Mvc7)

565 Re: TFG's 20 million dollar vacations need to be brought to the attention of Congress. Legislation needs to be introduced to limit these fuckers to the standard vacation fare...Camp David and maybe a couple of local munny golf courses.

This fucker is out of hand.

Posted by: sTevo at January 04, 2013 12:55 PM (gEuem)

566 EC-209, so can a Slinky....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:55 PM (fpSpD)

567 COnservative Voters to the rest of the country: "Remember everybody, YOU WANTED THIS!"

Posted by: exdem13 at January 04, 2013 12:55 PM (1GunI)

568 559 Another vote in the Dem column!!

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:56 PM (XDC0v)

569 563 Another vote for the Dems!!! Wonder how Obama got elected-

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:56 PM (XDC0v)

570 EC-209, so can a Slinky....


Heh...poor Daleks!

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:57 PM (GQ8sn)

571 559 Another vote in the Dem column!!
Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:56 PM (XDC0v)


They're adding up aint they?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 12:57 PM (l86i3)

572 Oh, My Queen, did you get a suitable list of household tools yesterday?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 04, 2013 12:54 PM (yiIja)



I did! Thank you to everyone.


Boy BFF is threatening promising to come visit next month so I may make him go with me to pick stuff out. The upside? I'll make him do appropriately boy duties of carrying all the crap. The downside? That will probably add a zero to the total.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 04, 2013 12:57 PM (VtjlW)

573
Did someone call a maintenance man?
http://tinyurl.com/ald9bc7

Posted by: Schneider at January 04, 2013 12:57 PM (b1VIZ)

574 Oh yeah EC, from Japan
http://youtu.be/FtovadY4lYk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (fpSpD)

575 Interesting note. I know quite a few "young hip" people who tried to live in the city. Then the children came, and they looked around and fled. The wife and I simply set up shop in the suburbs from the start.

What's the south side like? Actual city. Chippewa to Gravois Rd., Kingshighway to Hampton. I was born & raised there from '62 - '79 when we moved to Texas. Been back only 3 times for grandparents funerals.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (GFM2b)

576 Yeah listening to the dems protest the taxes just reminds me of that gospel song "Bringing in the sheaves". Now if I remember the words right-

Fuck'em where they breath
Fuck'em where they breath
Fuck'em in their piehole
Fuck'em where they breath

Posted by: Berserker at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (FMbng)

577 I did! Thank you to everyone.





Boy BFF is threatening promising to come visit next month so I
may make him go with me to pick stuff out. The upside? I'll make him
do appropriately boy duties of carrying all the crap. The downside?
That will probably add a zero to the total.



Miter saw?

Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (GQ8sn)

578 > Legislation needs to be introduced to limit these fuckers to the standard vacation fare...



I think the McFucksticks got into politics for the perks

for all those years when The Man was keeping them down

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (8sCoq)

579 512 BTW, just what is a "baton rouge"?
Posted by: Cricket at January 04, 2013 12:41 PM (DrC22)

I'm thinkin a red billyclub.

---

It's a red stick of some sort.

In a historical sense, this particular one is a blood-covered stick that French explorers found, left by the Indians to say "This is MY land, asshole."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (e0xKF)

580 571 Yep- take a bow!!! Fuck America I've got myhigh moralsto project!!!

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (XDC0v)

581 All they understand is a pimp slap

Truer words, my friend, truer words.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 04, 2013 12:59 PM (UU0OF)

582 To the leftists fapping to the disintegration of the GOP:

We'll vote in YOUR primaries and force YOUR party sharply to the right.

Imagine all the rewriting of college history books that hail the Dem party

Posted by: kbdabear at January 04, 2013 12:59 PM (wwsoB)

583
"The West won the world not by the superiority
of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do" -Samuel P Huntington

Posted by: Filly at January 04, 2013 12:45 PM (/Mvc7)


Then it sounds as ifnon-Westerners had better watch their asses, doesn't it?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 04, 2013 12:59 PM (4u2LN)

584 Does the JEF pay taxes on his perks?

Posted by: sTevo at January 04, 2013 12:59 PM (gEuem)

585 >559 Another vote in the Dem column!!

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:56 PM (XDC0v)

569
563 Another vote for the Dems!!! Wonder how Obama got elected-

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:56 PM (XDC0v)


you need a new schtick

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:59 PM (8sCoq)

586 God, I dunno if I can take four years of these arguments.

Hopefully there'll be a nice red wave in 2014 to cool us off.

Posted by: JDTAY at January 04, 2013 01:00 PM (a0nis)

587
you need a new schtick
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 04, 2013 12:59 PM (8sCoq)


Maybe a Baton Rouge.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 01:00 PM (l86i3)

588 536 Another vote for the Democratic candidate

Oh noes! If you don't vote for the Republican, we're doooomed!!!

Sorry, pal, Romney was the last bite of the shit sandwich. The party wants to whore itself out to the criminals, perverts and other third-world degenerates who sneak across the border because they're "natural conservatives," all the while undermining any real conservatives, let it. Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 04, 2013 01:00 PM (SjUPQ)

589 Fuck'em where they breath
Fuck'em where they breath
Fuck'em in their piehole
Fuck'em where they breath


Posted by: Berserker at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (FMbng)

-----
Garrrr....
Good luck to me getting that diddy out of my head today. Thanks alot, pal. THanks alot.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2013 01:00 PM (nELVU)

590 Anna,

http://youtu.be/W7UvmUo3d14?t=10s


Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 01:01 PM (GQ8sn)

591 All they understand is a pimp slap

Truer words, my friend, truer words.
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 04, 2013 12:59 PM (UU0OF)



Wait, I'm allowed to slap people now? *scurries for list*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 04, 2013 01:01 PM (VtjlW)

592 Ewok signal thread up.

Posted by: Tami at January 04, 2013 01:02 PM (X6akg)

593 452
The current income tax system is unconstitutional anyways. Oh, the
government can tax income, sure. But the government cannot use the
incoem tax to devise what is effectively a violation of the
Constitution's prohibition on per capita, or direct, taxation. In other
words, a flat rate income tax would be Constitutional, but taxing
different people at different rates is not Constitutional.

At
one time, pre-FDR, the Supreme Court understood this. But ever since the
infamous switch-in-time, the Court has failed to discuss this principle
in its rulings, just as in the recent ObamaCare decision.

What do you think a prohibition on direct, per capita taxation is for?


Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 12:32 PM (Tt6ky)

________________

You keep mentioning this word, constitution. HUH?

Posted by: NY TIMES EDITORIAL BOARD at January 04, 2013 01:02 PM (HDgX3)

594 "The West won the world not by the superiority
of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do" -Samuel P Huntington

Posted by: Filly at January 04, 2013 12:45 PM (/Mvc7)

Then it sounds as ifnon-Westerners had better watch their asses, doesn't it?


Then they can say, "Yes sir" in Engrish and not in German or Japanese.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 01:02 PM (GFM2b)

595 568 559 Another vote in the Dem column!!

Sorry DAve, that crap just doesn't scare me anymore.

LIB.

Posted by: DocJ at January 04, 2013 01:03 PM (A5uiv)

596 563 Another vote for the Dems!!! Wonder how Obama got elected- Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 12:56 PM (XDC0v)

Don't look at me there, DAve. I don't plan on hanging on to the DOPE party anymore, either, but I voted for Mitt. I voted for McCain. I've voted for every 'publican candidate since I COULD vote. And now I'm sick of it and done. Give me a good candidate, and I'll vote for him or her. But I'm registering Independent from hereon out. And I HATE squishy independents.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 01:03 PM (4df7R)

597
It's a drag when your voting choice is either the rampant purveyors of a doomed welfare state or their compliant assistants.

2014?

pfffht....

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 04, 2013 01:03 PM (1Y+hH)

598 Geez. I break away from lurking, feed the cats, go through my throw-away mail, take the trash out, go through the tv listings to pick a channel, and come back to the same damn thread.

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 01:04 PM (X70gw)

599 Fuck'em where they breath
Fuck'em where they breath
Fuck'em in their piehole
Fuck'em where they breath


Posted by: Berserker at January 04, 2013 12:58 PM (FMbng)


I'm doing Charector profiles for my new book. One of them is kinda of like you. He's an Ex CIA agent kicked out of the country. He resides in the outback of Austrailia with an aboriginal wife and six kids. He hunts crocs for a living and he always walks around singing disgusting perverted ditties. He is the modern day definition of a berserker.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 04, 2013 01:04 PM (l86i3)

600 Fuck'em where they breath breathe

Sorry, pet peeve.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 04, 2013 01:05 PM (/eBe8)

601 I'm very angry that the GOP hasn't somehow forced the Democrats to do what I want. I don't know how, but they should've so that means they're just like Democrats.

Unless a Republican candidate campaigns on a 90% tax and spending cut, throwing poor people in debtors prison, and shooting all the illegals, I'm going to vote for the Democrat who wants to increase taxes, spending, entitlements, and give illegals unconditional amnesty.

Because principles and courage. Also, derp.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 01:05 PM (SY2Kh)

602 Geez. I break away from lurking, feed the cats, go through my throw-away mail, take the trash out, go through the tv listings to pick a channel, and come back to the same damn thread.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 01:04 PM (X70gw)


This is why we can't have nice things.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 01:05 PM (4df7R)

603 Wait, I'm allowed to slap people now? *scurries for list*

When were you not allowed to slap them, Empress?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 04, 2013 01:06 PM (zF6Iw)

604 Judgmental people are the worst! Wait...

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 01:06 PM (Tt6ky)

605 The gop will never change as long as they can get lil DAve type voters to obey and vote as directed.

Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 01:06 PM (EWsrI)

606 EC, Bumble Bee heh.

Why wigs win in cosplay - http://youtu.be/TWWuPYdLr14

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 04, 2013 01:07 PM (fpSpD)

607 Why would you go to Michigan or Illinois.

I had to drive through Illinois to get to Radish Family Christmas. I got a kick out of the "guns save lifes" Burma-Shave-style signs along I-74 in the east, and there was a neat Knights of Columbus billboard outside one of the cities depicting Joseph playing with Baby Jesus while Mary slept, but other than that...I don't want to ever again in my life hear anyone from Illinois tell me Indiana is boring.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 04, 2013 01:07 PM (ZKzrr)

608 I'm going to vote for the Democrat who wants to increase taxes, spending, entitlements, and give illegals unconditional amnesty.

And this is functionally different from the GOP how, precisely?

Posted by: DocJ at January 04, 2013 01:07 PM (A5uiv)

609 Speculation:


Everyone's expecting that Spock dies at the end of Abram's new flick, but he likes to screw with people's heads so Kirk will be the one to perish.

$0.02.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 04, 2013 01:07 PM (xw1VU)

610 370 341 USAAmmo still has AR's and 30-rd. mags at reasonable prices. Get some now


The USGI mags for $20? Are you sure they're still in stock and won't take 60-90 days to ship?
Posted by: EC Works For Dick Jones at January 04, 2013 12:13 PM (GQ8sn)

Just called em, out of everything until june. Figured I'll lock in on a good price for an M1A. I'll get more functionality out of that than an AR-15 I think.

Who knows, maybe in june I'll have the $$$ for an AR.

Posted by: cajun carrot at January 04, 2013 01:08 PM (UZQM8)

611 Because principles and courage. Also, derp.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 01:05 PM (SY2Kh)


Or maybe because we're sick of having to settle.

Hey, I'll vote for a Republican again if s/he impresses me with his/her message and if I think s/he'll follow through on it to the best of his/her ability. But I'm not going to be a cheap date anymore. This was my last year of whoring myself out to the Republican party. I'm not going to continue to play the battered housewife.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 04, 2013 01:08 PM (4df7R)

612 Everyone's expecting that Spock dies at the end of Abram's new flick

If true, it would be interesting to see how many different parallels Abrams is going have with the "original" movies. It would make the new series somewhat predictable and yet still interesting.

I doubt it's true, though.

Posted by: DocJ at January 04, 2013 01:10 PM (A5uiv)

613 "Why are you on Facebook period? It's run by an Obozo loving douche. Don't feed the beast and starve all of its minions"

This.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2013 01:10 PM (gqT4g)

614 Hollowpoint, seriously?

That is your counter thrust?





Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 01:10 PM (EWsrI)

615 I wanted Star Trek II and Star Trek 2 to rhyme, like poetry. Hey, it worked for Lucas. People ate his sh!t up.

Posted by: J. Abrams at January 04, 2013 01:10 PM (Tt6ky)

616 Who knows, maybe in june I'll have the $$$ for an AR.

I'd love to have an M1 Garand. Don't know if I could afford to feed it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2013 01:12 PM (GFM2b)

617 Everyone's expecting that Spock dies at the end of Abram's new flick, but he likes to screw with people's heads so Kirk will be the one to perish.$0.02.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 04, 2013 01:07 PM (xw1VU)


------------------------------------


Uh oh. We've got geek seepage.

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2013 01:12 PM (X70gw)

618 "The perfect is the enemy of the good." Voltaire

“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." Saul Alinsky

Nobody is perfect. That's why it's so easy to point out someone's flaws in order to distract from someone else's even greater flaws.

The alternative to voting for the lesser of two evils is voting for the more evil of two evils. Only in a martyr's fantasy is that a better option.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 01:16 PM (Tt6ky)

619 The Democrat monster under the bed trick no longer works.

Making up shit and attacking with strawmen no longer works.

Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 01:16 PM (EWsrI)

620 588
Sorry, pal, Romney was the last bite of the shit sandwich. The party wants to whore itself out to the criminals, perverts and other third-world degenerates who sneak across the border because they're "natural conservatives," all the while undermining any real conservatives, let it. Fuck the GOP.


^THIS.

Posted by: rickl at January 04, 2013 01:18 PM (zoehZ)

621 Making up shit and attacking with strawmen no longer works.





Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 01:16 PM (EWsrI)



That was Barry's whole campaign

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2013 01:21 PM (1Jaio)

622
The alternative to voting for the lesser of two
evils is voting for the more evil of two evils. Only in a martyr's
fantasy is that a better option.


Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 01:16 PM (Tt6ky)

The alternative to voting for the lesser of two evils is awaiting the inevitable and being as well-equipped as you can to deal with it.

It is a delusion to believe that incrementals like "one trillion less red over ten years" will defeat fifteen trillion in total red in the same period. It is also a delusion to believe that the folks who brought you $33b in 'savings' at the last debt ceiling debacle will accomplish anything but make diehard republicans weep into their beverage of choice as they realize this is what their leaders dub as "within our capabilities".

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 04, 2013 01:21 PM (xw1VU)

623 "The alternative to voting for the lesser of two evils is awaiting the
inevitable and being as well-equipped as you can to deal with it."

That's not an alternative. You can do both at the same time.

Regardless, voting isn't the best way to control politicians. If you want politicians to do the right thing, then you have to work to make the right thing popular. Politicians do what is popular, without regard to right and wrong.

Posted by: JohnJ at January 04, 2013 01:23 PM (Tt6ky)

624
I used to say the exact same thing DAve said, then about a year and a half ago, I finally got a head kick after the 2010 elections, they are all just fighting over the spoils they thieve from taxpayers.

And this fiscal cliff thing proves it. 154 pages, all the cronies scoring some govt funding... Un huh, yeah right no collusion there.

154.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2013 01:25 PM (69Mdf)

625 Well, sir, if a way can be thought of to bring this populace of ignorants to liking, or even grimly accepting, the reality of where their behavior is leading, it is far beyond the capacity of the Republicans to figure it out. =/


Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 04, 2013 01:27 PM (xw1VU)

626 Hollowpoint, seriously?



That is your counter thrust?


Considering the mindless, kneejerk comments from the I'm Taking My Ball And Going Home whiners?

Yes.

Spew useless reactionary bullshit, get a bullshit reply. You're welcome.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 04, 2013 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)

627 So... is it burning yet?

Posted by: Petrus at January 04, 2013 01:42 PM (OscGM)

628 559 I voted for Mitt even though I can't stand that stupid fucker, but no more RINOs for me no matter what.

Fuck the gop and its weak shit liars and phonies.
Posted by: eman at January 04, 2013 12:53 PM (EWsrI)

No one voted for Mitt cause they liked him. Those who voted for Mitt were hoping he'd have some creative solutions to the economic problems. Problem is, with each new security briefing, the more the guy found out, the less he wanted the job. Even mitt's competitive nature couldn't overcome his fear of the economic travesty we are facing. It's better to have someone in the WH who doesn't know what's going on so the fear factor is removed and they have the delusion that they can fix things. Plus the 50% plus on the public teet are calm, fat and happy. If they lost their goodies they might get cranky and cantankerous.

Posted by: Caustic at January 04, 2013 01:46 PM (/b8+5)

629 It's just Wellington, Kansas that limits households to four kittehs. Not the whole state.

Where do we sign up to get Kansas added to the Republic of Texas? We have wheat, KC-135s and meth labs to offer.

Posted by: Captain Clarence Oveur at January 04, 2013 01:53 PM (ZVZLb)

630 Shaudenfreude........it's what's for dinner.

Posted by: Metalgod at January 04, 2013 01:54 PM (DQjJA)

631 And fed-ex man just delivered me 5 new XDsc mags. Yay!!! Exile machine

I'm looking forward to my 3 new XD mags.

Posted by: GMan at January 04, 2013 02:10 PM (sxq57)

632 The 2 % payroll installment reinistatement is so that people can pay for their own retirement. Instead of complaining about this just steal $50 to $100 per month from your kids or grandkids paper route money. It works out exactly the same.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 04, 2013 02:24 PM (VLifP)

633 Message to the "reality based" party: Obama been lyin'.

Posted by: George LeS at January 04, 2013 02:26 PM (C4s3i)

634 Ace's Prophesy:

"Likewise this sort of thing -- the "taking
delight" or laughing at some kind of human flaw or sin -- is of such a de
minimis or venial nature that I wonder if we overconcern ourselves with
this sort of thing in order to avoid thinking too much about more serious
things."And that's what this constant tearing down of Republican candidates is. If we lower taxes how will the deficit get paid down? No, REALISTICALLY. So all the "purists" insist that it's their way or the highway and anyone can see from simply reading here that they all really want different things so the Republican Party is basically as long as people maintain this viewpoint unrepresentable. These people have ABSOLUTELY NO mission focus- their focus is on the personnel instead. So as a result the mission (defending the Constitution and the preservation of America) gets absolutely trashed and all they have to say about their part is to crow about their ability to find fault with those who actually enter the arena to represent them. As of right now either aDem will win or a Republican will: you put the Dem in office and expect some acclaim for standing on principles??? You completely failed to address the mission: Mission First is how they express it in groups where important things need to be done and important decisions need to be made. And eman besides your specialty of talking shit let's see you put forth something positive that will actually get theMISSION accomplished, not just give you the warm fuzzies about yourself for your Republicanner-than-thou pretentiousness

Posted by: DAve at January 04, 2013 02:40 PM (XDC0v)

635 The genius who started the thread at DU has self-deleted the original comment which has frozen the thread for new comments. Hardy-har-har!

Posted by: Mockery is the best policy at January 04, 2013 02:55 PM (VXSCG)

636 Stupid rubes who voted for Teh One. Just wait til they get MorObama and Obama2 and Obama:The Second Coming (all ™ , naturally). Suckers, they thought the election was it. Hah!

Posted by: dissent555 at January 04, 2013 07:37 PM (yR6A1)






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