Election Of Speaker Vote.
Update: Unofficial Tally Puts Boehner Back In Speaker's Chair

Above The Post Update:
C-SPAN's running count has Boehner at 219.

Marsha Blackburn and Michele Backmann didn't vote in first go round but when they called the missing voters, they came to push him over the top. Because Truuuuu Conservative.

Original Post:
Going on right now.

It will take 17 Republicans to vote for someone other than Boehner to throw the election to a second round. It's not a whoever gets the most votes but an outright majority so there's no chance of Pelosi sneaking in.

So far there are 3 votes for other people and crazy Michele Bachmann didn't vote (does she think she might be an actual option?).

The other votes so far have gone to Raul Labrador of ID, Eric Cantor (he voted for Boehner) and Allen West.

Boehner's going to win.

Jim Cooper of TN just voted for Colin Powell.

There's a freak show quality to some parts of the GOP. I take that back, Cooper is a Democrat, so that won't help the anti-Boehner faction.

Cantor, McCarthy, Price and Ryan all voted for Boehner. The revolution...it never showed up.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:44 PM



Comments

1 Because we can never get enough politics.

Posted by: rickl at January 03, 2013 12:45 PM (zoehZ)

2 SHIT!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 12:45 PM (l86i3)

3

I think we all know the outcome.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2013 12:45 PM (xVKk3)

4 Please be Allen West!

Posted by: Six at January 03, 2013 12:45 PM (Y+woW)

5 Who else would want that job right now except crazy Michelle? She's bright and easy to look at, but she's also a wingnut socon and is married to a fat, sweaty homo minister and no one wants someone like that around all the time.

I was hoping Cantor would bust a move but he probably did the right thing for his own career.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 03, 2013 12:47 PM (8/DeP)

6 There's a freak show quality to some parts of the GOP.


Some?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 12:47 PM (l86i3)

7 Still doesn't matter. We've already gone over the waterfall.

My cat could be elected speaker and it'd make the same amount of difference.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 03, 2013 12:47 PM (PMGbu)

8 For the good of the country, I nominate Barack Obama for Speaker.
:fart noise:
Are you gonna finish that?

Posted by: Chris Christie at January 03, 2013 12:47 PM (YmPwQ)

9 Why are Cantor and/or Ryan not going for it??!!! aaaaaack I'm so sick of these status-quo Republicans!!! DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Beckster at January 03, 2013 12:48 PM (VjJAc)

10 Has John "Happy Hour" Boehner started crying yet?

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 12:48 PM (OW/Yj)

11 I'm going to have to take my patented AoS Give-A-Shit Meter to the shop. This one's not registering at all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 12:49 PM (zF6Iw)

12 Brian Dennehy

Posted by: Runs with Scissors at January 03, 2013 12:49 PM (tdaam)

13 Has John "Happy Hour" Boehner started crying yet?

Well, it's just past noon, prolly on his second double. Around the forth is when the tears start.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 12:49 PM (l86i3)

14 The Capitol is so well constructed that not even God can destroy it.

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 12:50 PM (NIZHJ)

15 I will reiterate my plans to not vote for another republican as long as Boner is speaker, and I said this before the fiscal cliff deal. The fucker is a sellout piece of shit whose only skill is to take all the blame for everything Obama does.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 03, 2013 12:50 PM (EitjN)

16 The Capitol is so well constructed that not even God can destroy it.
Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 12:50 PM (NIZHJ)

Don't tempt him. He can't be real happy right now.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 12:50 PM (l86i3)

17 Bachmann's great. Why is she crazy? Her hubby might be a bit effeminate, but she is a strong, principled conservative.

Posted by: bill glass at January 03, 2013 12:50 PM (IPA22)

18 >>>I take that back, Cooper is a Democrat, so that won't help the anti-Boehner faction.

Cooper is making a play for a coalition speaker. That would be our worst nightmare come true. The RINOs partner with the Democrats to cut out Conservatism entirely.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 12:50 PM (0q2P7)

19 There's a freak show quality to most of the Democratic Party, Drew.

Posted by: Matt at January 03, 2013 12:51 PM (90w0O)

20 Give me crazy Michelle over one of your frat-con buddies (especially Cantor) every time.

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 12:51 PM (cVYiZ)

21 Ted Nugent for Speaker of the Taxed

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 12:51 PM (fpSpD)

22
The Capitol is so well constructed that not even God can destroy it.
Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 12:50 PM (NIZHJ)

Don't tempt him. He can't be real happy right now.



I think that was the point...

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 03, 2013 12:51 PM (/D/u1)

23 Beavis -- or at least Butthead -- for speaker. How could they do any worse?

Posted by: joncelli at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (RD7QR)

24 I think your cat would drive a harder bargain.

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (NIZHJ)

25 We should just get rid of the elephant and pick a RINO as the new symbol . . . .



Did I do that right?

Posted by: Paladin at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (ycm4Q)

26 Bachmann, Blackburn, and Garrett did not vote.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (YjDyJ)

27 8 For the good of the country, I nominate Barack Obama for Speaker.
:fart noise:
Are you gonna finish that?

------
NICE! hehe

Posted by: gigg423 at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (41VCE)

28 Ted Nugent for Speaker of the Taxed
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 12:51 PM (fpSpD)

That would be ugly, Ted would be ground swatting them from the podium.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (l86i3)

29 by he way, did we also the Yahoo news story about "The courage of Boehner and McConnell"

http://tinyurl.com/a9rxcwp

which is exactly what a RINO looks for, praise from the people who help Dems get re-elected. They both need to go.

Posted by: mallfly at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (bJm7W)

30 If we are going to have a freak show, let's elect a speaker morons could support in more ways than one. Jenna Jamison.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (EBPRt)

31 Butters, nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (fpSpD)

32 Colin Powell



I'd rather have Stormin' Norman's dead body serve than that shitstain.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (OW/Yj)

33 Has it been noted here that Boner violated the Hastert rule of legislation needing a majority of Republican votes to be brought to the floor?

He should be done, he should be removed. This is a fucking travesty.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (EitjN)

34 This is like voting for Chief Purser on the Titanic

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (8sCoq)

35
Bachmann's great. Why is she crazy?

I love Bachmann, I do, but, if she isn't crazy, she needs to stop saying crazy things. Or at least things that are so far to the right of
1. Current policy.
2. The Overton Window.

as to make her sound crazy.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (0q2P7)

36 I'll take Michelle Bachmann any day over Boehner.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (GsoHv)

37 As the Titanic is sinking....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (fpSpD)

38
That would be our worst nightmare come true. The RINOs partner with the Democrats to cut out Conservatism entirely.

You're worst nightmare come true is the end of pretense?

Yikes.

Posted by: Entropy at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (TULs6)

39 How much do you want to bet that they'll F us again?

Takers?

Anyone?

Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (fWAjv)

40 I kinda like the idea of having a Labrador as Speaker.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 12:54 PM (yiIja)

41 OSP, but it would be vastly amusing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 12:54 PM (fpSpD)

42 Oh noes.

Posted by: The Chicken at January 03, 2013 12:54 PM (NIZHJ)

43 26 Bachmann, Blackburn, and Garrett did not vote.
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 12:52 PM (YjDyJ)

Cowards

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 03, 2013 12:55 PM (EitjN)

44
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (fWAjv)




Again? When did it stop?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 12:55 PM (b1VIZ)

45 I kinda like the idea of having a Labrador as Speaker.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 12:54 PM (yiIja)

Least it would be loyal.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 12:55 PM (l86i3)

46 >>>You're worst nightmare come true is the end of pretense?
Yikes.

We would officially be single party rule. Yes that scares me.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 12:55 PM (0q2P7)

47 My brass knuckles grow bored of Boehner.
I wish there was some new meat, but I suppose I can continue tenderizing Ol' Cryin' Johnny.

Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at January 03, 2013 12:55 PM (7QU6R)

48 Unless its a Meth Lab for Speaker....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 12:55 PM (fpSpD)

49 From what I've seen and heard from Blackburn, sheseems to have some backbone.

Posted by: Havedash at January 03, 2013 12:55 PM (F0WNa)

50 Why not vote for a genuine clown? I understand that Newt Gingrich has a history with Nancy Pelosi and the casting couch.

Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (/ZZCn)

51 I nominate Jim DeMint for Speaker. Hey, he's not in the Senate anymore, so why not?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (4df7R)

52 Can we please get over this Political Celebrity bullshit?

Know who Allen West is? A former one-term House rep who lost re-election. A backbencher who had far more fame than influence or accomplishment in office.

He'd no more be a suitable choice for Speaker than Sean Hannity.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (SY2Kh)

53 OSP, but it would be vastly amusing.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 12:54 PM (fpSpD)

Oh hell, we could pay a portion of the debt with pay per view receipts.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (l86i3)

54 I see that DrewM is still constantly pmsing over the blog.

Posted by: buzzion at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (GULKT)

55 Ooh! I wanna have a who's-most-Conservative contest like Mr. Ace loves so much!

Crazy wingnut Michelle vs. frat-con Brotherhood candidate Cantor... or McCarthy... or Boner.... or Romney..

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (cVYiZ)

56 Vote for the turkey who wants to raise taxes to 99% and start a $50 trillion 'stimulus.'

Time to burn this fucker to the bolts.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (KDq5l)

57 Boehner's going to win.

Why mess with success?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (QKKT0)

58 How about Raul Paul?

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 12:56 PM (NIZHJ)

59 There's a dog named Raul in Congress?

Posted by: Big T Party at January 03, 2013 12:57 PM (WiQr+)

60 Ru Paul for Speaker

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 12:57 PM (fpSpD)

61 Pauly Shore for Speaker.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 12:57 PM (4df7R)

62 ‏@robertcostaNRO So far--the GOP breaks: 2 for West, 1 for Labrador, 1 for Jordan, 1 for Cantor, plus 3 Repubs not voting

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 12:57 PM (YjDyJ)

63 Or at least things that are so far to the right of [t]he Overton Window as to make her sound crazy.

Exactly.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 03, 2013 12:57 PM (8/DeP)

64 There is never a Tsunami around when you need one.

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 12:58 PM (NIZHJ)

65 Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Posted by: Jon in TX at January 03, 2013 12:59 PM (PYAXX)

66 >>>"Know who Allen West is? A former one-term House rep who lost re-election. A backbencher who had far more fame than influence or accomplishment in office.

He'd no more be a suitable choice for Speaker than Sean Hannity."

And they're off!
frat-con Hollowpoint has just fired a bruising elbow to actual Conservative Allen West. Oh my!

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 12:59 PM (cVYiZ)

67 I guess they all feel that Boehner is doing (In my best Forrest Gump voice) "A fine,fine job".

Posted by: Drider at January 03, 2013 12:59 PM (HaJD9)

68 There is never a Tsunami around when you need one.

I understand there's an app for that now.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 03, 2013 12:59 PM (8/DeP)

69 Ru Paul is the only sensible option at this point.

Posted by: gigg423 at January 03, 2013 12:59 PM (41VCE)

70 My cat could be elected speaker and it'd make the same amount of difference.

If it's been neutered but not declawed, it's one up on Boehner.

Posted by: Kinder, Gentler HeatherRadish™ at January 03, 2013 12:59 PM (ZKzrr)

71 Who wants to be Speaker for an impotent body? After all, the adults remind us it's only one half of on third of the beneficent fatherly State.

Anyway we already know what will happen in two months. The King gets at least 90% of the debt hike he wants, and no spending cuts beyond rounding errors except for the military.

Take a nap.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 12:59 PM (Lxw+T)

72 I prefer Allen West. He can talk down to the JEF.

Posted by: sTevo at January 03, 2013 01:00 PM (sYewh)

73 Potted Plant for Speaker

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:00 PM (8sCoq)

74 Trent Lott?

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:00 PM (NIZHJ)

75 How much do you want to bet that they'll F us again? Takers? Anyone?
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (fWAjv)


I think 2013's the year we all get to be the chicken.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 01:00 PM (zF6Iw)

76 Ru Paul is the only sensible option at this point.

He cries less than our current Speaker.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:00 PM (Lxw+T)

77 67 I guess they all feel that Boehner is doing (In my best Forrest Gump voice) "A fine,fine job".

No one volunteered. You can't beat somebody with nobody.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:00 PM (YjDyJ)

78

The GOP is run by con artists.

Not another dime jackasses.

Rinse? Shove it up your balding skull douchebag. Not another dime.

You want to raise taxes, but oh my goodness, say you don't?

Not another dime bud, you are Democrats.


Posted by: Rev Dr. E Buzz Yannoglanchie at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (ApGOC)

79 @robertcostaNRO Still seven votes away from a second ballot. Ten GOPers have broken/not backed Boehner.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (YjDyJ)

80 I'm so burned out and bored with politics now.

I don't know how you do it.

Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (KXm42)

81 Lulz!!! Every one at work here is freaking out after seeing their pay stubs. My Shadenboner is only tempered that my pay stub is just as dismal.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (jvd3N)

82 >>>Know who Allen West is? A former one-term House rep who lost
re-election. A backbencher who had far more fame than influence or
accomplishment in office.

I'll take someone who will at least publicly and competently defend conservatism. Accomplishments on the resume matters little when none of the competition have any accomplishments to boast about either.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (0q2P7)

83
I love Bachmann, I do, but, if she isn't crazy,
she needs to stop saying crazy things. Or at least things that are so
far to the right of
1. Current policy.
2. The Overton Window.

as to make her sound crazy.


Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 12:53 PM (0q2P7)

Respectfully, I submit that "balanced budget" is far to the right of the Overton window at this time. If that's too crazy for the public, then the Overton window is outside our range.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (xw1VU)

84 Ru Paul is much more butch than boo-hoo Boehner

Posted by: gigg423 at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (41VCE)

85 The party of stoopid steps on its johnson again.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (OW/Yj)

86 Hank Johnson for the laughs.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (6BgmB)

87 Cats don't cry.

Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 01:02 PM (KXm42)

88 But wait - what's this?.. The Frat-cons are trying the old "what does it matter anyway ploy"... well played!

Maybe actual Conservatives will give up hope too and the frat cons can win the day again!

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 01:02 PM (cVYiZ)

89 Posted by: dananjcon at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (jvd3N)


LOL, that's fun to see. How many Obamabots?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:02 PM (l86i3)

90 List Boner's accomplishments.

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:02 PM (NIZHJ)

91 Hugo Chavez for Speaker. I hear he is just chilling now....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:03 PM (fpSpD)

92 Lulz!!! Every one at work here is freaking out after seeing their pay stubs.

The cockles of my heart won't be warmed unless they know why they're getting less.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 03, 2013 01:03 PM (ZKzrr)

93 Some of you would call Jesus a CINO.

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:03 PM (m2CN7)

94 And they're off!

frat-con Hollowpoint has just fired a bruising elbow to actual Conservative private citizen Allen West. Oh my!


Fixed it for you.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:03 PM (SY2Kh)

95 90
List Boner's accomplishments.


Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:02 PM (NIZHJ)

1. A liver the size of a football.
2. Gets reelected.
3. Did I mention the liver?

Posted by: joncelli at January 03, 2013 01:03 PM (RD7QR)

96 Some of you would call Jesus a CINO.
Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:03 PM (m2CN7)

That depends. Is he a tax and spend savior?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:03 PM (l86i3)

97 92 Any tears of unfathomable sadness?

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:04 PM (NIZHJ)

98 I just hope we nominate that worthless sack of owl shit Christie to lead us to victory in 2016

Posted by: gigg423 at January 03, 2013 01:04 PM (41VCE)

99 I say Trey Gowdy for the win.

Posted by: Vic at January 03, 2013 01:04 PM (53z96)

100 Mark Sanchez for Speaker!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:04 PM (fpSpD)

101 I say Trey Gowdy for the win.
Posted by: Vic at January 03, 2013 01:04 PM (53z96)


Ditto.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:04 PM (l86i3)

102 Polynikes are you still pretending Plan B would have passed the Senate?

Posted by: Entropy at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (TULs6)

103 btw I'm really enjoying Christie's amazement at being played by Obama. Hahahahaha, he stabs Romney in the back, only to be stabbed himself by Obama. Idiot.

Posted by: Boots at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (oG66P)

104 robertcostaNRO So four no votes, plus 2 for West, 1 for Amash, 1 for Cantor, 1 for Labrador, 1 for Jordan, 1 for Walker = 11 GOP defections

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (YjDyJ)

105

"Lulz!!! Every one at work here is freaking out after seeing their pay stubs."



Fair share, bitchez.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (1Y+hH)

106 The Wild man Jim Thune?

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (NIZHJ)

107
Lulz!!! Every one at work here is freaking out after seeing their pay stubs. My Shadenboner is only tempered that my pay stub is just as dismal.

Time for any teachable moments?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (yiIja)

108 "I'm going to have to take my patented AoS Give-A-Shit Meter to the shop. This one's not registering at all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 12:49 PM (zF6Iw)"

Looks to be functioning properly.

Posted by: Al at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (V70Uh)

109 In politics as in assassinations. It matters not who stabs first, but who stabs last.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (fpSpD)

110 Mulvaney abstains.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (YjDyJ)

111 >I just hope we nominate that worthless sack of owl shit Christie to lead us to victory in 2016

Posted by: gigg423 at January 03, 2013 01:04 PM (41VCE)


we'll need someone moderate, to appeal to the undecideds

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (8sCoq)

112 >>>Respectfully, I submit that "balanced budget" is far to the right of the
Overton window at this time. If that's too crazy for the public, then
the Overton window is outside our range.

You are going to argue that a person doesn't say crazy things by bringing up ONE example of something said that isn't crazy?

Assertion
Group X contain elements some of which have property Y

Experiment. Test one element of group X.

It does not contain property Y therefore all of X does not contain property Y?

Really?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (0q2P7)

113


My 2007 decision to go indy still looking good.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (1Y+hH)

114 The guy who voted for Powell should be tarred and feathered

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (gV1Uk)

115 The Speaker's position is so miserable right now Boehner probably deserves it.

Why waste your career by boarding a sinking ship?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (Lxw+T)

116 Tyrion Lannister for Speaker.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (GBXon)

117 Lulz!!! Every one at work here is freaking out after seeing their pay stubs. My Shadenboner is only tempered that my pay stub is just as dismal.

Any of them make the connection between that and a vote for the Kenyan Krackhead? Or are they all blaming BOOOOSSHHH! ?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (zF6Iw)

118 drewm for speaker

Posted by: wm flip at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (lB/5N)

119 Run another lukewarm D-Lite.

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (NIZHJ)

120 The guy who voted for Powell should be tarred and feathered

He's a Dem, so it goes without saying.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (GBXon)

121 Trent Lott?
Posted by: Butters


"Former Sens. John Breaux, D-La., and Trent Lott, R-Miss., a pair of rainmaker lobbyists, pleaded for extensions on behalf of a powerful lineup of clients.

General Electric and Citigroup, for instance, hired Breaux and Lott to extend a tax provision that allows multinational corporations to defer U.S. taxes by moving profits into offshore financial subsidiaries. This provision -- known as the "active financing exception" -- is the main tool GE uses to avoid nearly all U.S. corporate income tax."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (KDq5l)

122 Kim Kardashian for Speaker.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (fpSpD)

123 111 >I just hope we nominate that worthless sack of owl shit Christie to lead us to victory in 2016

Posted by: gigg423 at January 03, 2013 01:04 PM (41VCE)


we'll need someone moderate, to appeal to the undecideds

----
Totes, he better pick a very liberal running mate to balance his super right wing agenda. Colin Powell anyone???

Posted by: gigg423 at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (41VCE)

124 >>>Some of you would call Jesus a CINO.

And some of you would call Satan a pragmatic, reasonable, electable Christian.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (0q2P7)

125 We should run a complete shithead to appeal to 47% of the electorate.

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:08 PM (NIZHJ)

126 I'm with Vic. Gowdy would be sensational. Which is why we'll get boned by Boner.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 03, 2013 01:08 PM (tjjvF)

127 You are going to argue that a person doesn't say crazy things by bringing up ONE example of something said that isn't crazy?

Not to speak for Kinley, but I think the argument is more, "Even sensible things are considered crazy these days, so we have to take a look at our definition of crazy and decide if we're being pushed that way or if it makes sense."

That said, I like Michelle Bachmann a lot, but I don't think she'd be the best Speaker. She also wouldn't be the worst.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:09 PM (4df7R)

128

My blue relatives in Texas (of all places) say everything would be fine if Republicans would just compromise more with Democrats.



I said, "I don't know how theyhelp Democrats any more than they are now."

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:09 PM (1Y+hH)

129
"crazy Michele Bachmann didn't vote (does she think she might be an actual option?). "
No offense Drew but she's a hell of a lot smarter than you.
No voters get another chance after others done. Speaker needs a majority of House, 217 votes, to win, not merely majority of voters.

Posted by: gary gulrud at January 03, 2013 01:09 PM (uv0Aw)

130 And some of you would call Satan a pragmatic, reasonable, electable Christian.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (0q2P7)


I beg to differ with you. I never heard anyone call obama reasonable or pragmatic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2013 01:09 PM (79ueO)

131 On a serious note, what about Tom McClintock from CA. I've heard him give some pretty damn good speeches, even if I don't agree with everything he says. Anyone know more about the guy?

Posted by: Jon in TX at January 03, 2013 01:09 PM (PYAXX)

132 I beg to differ with you. I never heard anyone call obama reasonable or pragmatic
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2013 01:09 PM (79ueO)


Or a Christian, cept the MFM.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (l86i3)

133 We need a Hispanic transgendered handicapped person for speaker

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (gV1Uk)

134 General Electric and Citigroup, for instance, hired Breaux and Lott to extend a tax provision that allows multinational corporations to defer U.S. taxes by moving profits into offshore financial subsidiaries. This provision -- known as the "active financing exception" -- is the main tool GE uses to avoid nearly all U.S. corporate income tax."

Perfect example. Okay, politicians. My vote is up for sale. Come up with a special provision for me so I can declare my income exempt from taxation, and I'll vote for you. It's a clientelist fascist state now, and it's time to pay your clients if you want my vote. Sauve qui peut.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (Lxw+T)

135 Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:05 PM (1Y+hH)

That is going to be the most enjoyable aspect of 2013.

Why did my paycheck go down and prices are going way up?


F you. You voted for it.

Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (fWAjv)

136 I'll take someone who will at least publicly and competently defend
conservatism. Accomplishments on the resume matters little when none of
the competition have any accomplishments to boast about either.


That makes him well suited to TV appearances. I hope he is able to convincingly defend conservative principles to the public.

Even though the position is called "Speaker of the House", public speaking isn't the main consideration though. The role of speaker isn't limited to Cheerleader in Chief.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (SY2Kh)

137 We need a Hispanic transgendered handicapped person for speaker
Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (gV1Uk)


Geraldo?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (l86i3)

138 133 Didn't we just try that?

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (NIZHJ)

139 Herve Villachez is dead though

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (fpSpD)

140 C'mon, this is an easy decision--Cake Girl for Speaker!

Posted by: Cowboy Bob at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (V9qC6)

141 "Can we please get over this Political Celebrity bullshit?"

The modern speakership is nothing but political celebrity. The authority and power it has is an accident of history. Elect a useful figurehead and let the representatives do their damn jobs.

Posted by: GalosGann at January 03, 2013 01:11 PM (T3KlW)

142 Why waste your career by boarding a sinking ship?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (Lxw+T)


Because if you can turn it around you become instantly famous. I don't think it requires anybody particularly glib to be able to turn the JEF into Ragey McTantrum who makes an embarrassment of himself but obviously that's beyond the ability of fuckface Boehner. Or Romney for that matter.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 01:11 PM (OW/Yj)

143 I'm backing Sponge Bob -- he's got more "gravitas" than Boner.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 01:11 PM (hc3eM)

144 We need a Hispanic transgendered handicapped person for speaker

Only if they're Jewish, Muslim, or Hindu. Otherwise, not diverse enough.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:12 PM (SY2Kh)

145 Did you explain "Fuck you, pay me?"

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:12 PM (NIZHJ)

146 122
Kim Kardashian for Speaker.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:07 PM (fpSpD)

Yeah, maybe she can sway some votes by shaking her booty.

Posted by: joncelli at January 03, 2013 01:12 PM (RD7QR)

147
129 "crazy Michele Bachmann didn't vote (does she think she might be an actual option?). "No offense Drew but she's a hell of a lot smarter than you.No voters get another chance after others done. Speaker needs a majority of House, 217 votes, to win, not merely majority of voters.
Posted by: gary gulrud at January 03, 2013 01:09 PM (uv0Aw)


That really doesn't take that much smarts though to achieve that benchmark.

But Ms. Liquid Slut is definitely crazy. Certainly conservative, but definitely crazy.

Posted by: buzzion at January 03, 2013 01:12 PM (GULKT)

148 >We need a Hispanic transgendered handicapped person for speaker

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (gV1Uk)

as long as he/she/heeshee is a moderate, and cares

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:12 PM (8sCoq)

149 Even though the position is called "Speaker of the House", public speaking isn't the main consideration though. The role of speaker isn't limited to Cheerleader in Chief.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (SY2Kh)


True. But it requires a bit of backbone and a refusal to take any shit, especially when you're outnumbered by the Senate and Executive majority. It's less about cheerleading and more about some good old-fashioned arm-twisting.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:12 PM (4df7R)

150 @robertcostaNRO Whip count of non-Boehner: 5 no votes, 8 others have won votes (2 West, 1 Labrador, 2 Cantor, 1 Jordan, 1 Amash, 1 Walker)

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (YjDyJ)

151 Prediction: there will be exactly 16 defections.

Posted by: Truman North at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (+uCKr)

152 140

Hell, Cake Girl for President!

Posted by: Big T Party at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (WiQr+)

153 Yeah, maybe she can sway some votes by shaking her booty.
Posted by: joncelli at January 03, 2013 01:12 PM (RD7QR)

Well, if she treats the CBC like the NBA...........

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (l86i3)

154 Boehner's going to win.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Posted by: ALH at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (yAPdC)

155 Did Nancy Botox really vote for herself?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (ZKzrr)

156 Bachmann went off my list for anything leadership related when she accidentally channeled Chukkkles of LGF and his screeds about vaccinations.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (fpSpD)

157 >>>Even though the position is called "Speaker of the House", public
speaking isn't the main consideration though. The role of speaker isn't
limited to Cheerleader in Chief.

No, it also at this point has a core competency of being able to say F* You to TFG. Something Boehner can't seem to do.

It also involves setting the houses agenda. Right now I would settle for no agenda. And have the house twiddle their thumbs and force the Constitutional Crisis on the debt ceiling that Obama seems so ready to engage in.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (0q2P7)

158 "The role of speaker isn't limited to Cheerleader in Chief."

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:10 PM (SY2Kh)

You are correct. The function of the Speaker of The House is to defend the interests of the U.S. House of Representatives and of the members who elected him.

Are you seriously suggesting that West would do a bad job of that, especially in comparison to Boehner?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (GsoHv)

159 Someone last night said leave the seat unfilled and then nothing can be done..... Is this even an option?

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (gV1Uk)

160 OT: any movie that includes a CCR song on the soundtrack is automatically good

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (8sCoq)

161 A big steaming pile of dog shit. Oh, wait.....Boehner.

Posted by: CraigPoe of Texas at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (BVkEs)

162 Jones in CO, there is a bathroom on the right.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (fpSpD)

163
Kim Kardashian for Speaker.

Speaker or Sqeaker?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (b1VIZ)

164 All the potential challengers have voted for Boehner.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (YjDyJ)

165 But Ms. Liquid Slut is definitely crazy. Certainly conservative, but definitely crazy.

Sad as it sounds, that might be an improvement.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Lord Commander of the Ampersand Army at January 03, 2013 01:15 PM (GBXon)

166 Give it Allen west and allow him torture rinos into submission

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 03, 2013 01:15 PM (gV1Uk)

167 Joe Theismann's Prostate?

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:15 PM (NIZHJ)

168 It also involves setting the houses agenda. Right now I would settle for no agenda. And have the house twiddle their thumbs and force the Constitutional Crisis on the debt ceiling that Obama seems so ready to engage in.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (0q2P7)


And maybe, just maybe, send out press releases every g-ddamn week to every media outlet, national and international, that say, "Day XXXX without a federal budget. Where is the Senate?" Over and over again. Put in some basic language about all the budget bills the House has sent over to the Senate, and just keep asking the question.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:15 PM (4df7R)

169 OT: any movie that includes a CCR song on the soundtrack is automatically good

Forest Gump

Hard Target

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:15 PM (GQ8sn)

170 Give it Allen west and allow him torture rinos into submission
Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 03, 2013 01:15 PM (gV1Uk)

Works for me.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:15 PM (l86i3)

171 Michele Bachmann would be OK, but if we want someone willing to tuck their ankles behind their ears and let Obama pound away on them, ala Boehner, her husband is clearly more qualified for the job.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (+lsX1)

172
The only Republicans I don't like are the ones who turn on me and what I stand for, or help the Democrats.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (jUytm)

173 @@robertcostaNRO: I got 16 against Boehner: 2 West, 2 Cantor, 1 Lab, 1 Jordan, 1 Walker, 1 Amash = 8, plus eight GOP abstains = 16

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (YjDyJ)

174
But Ms. Liquid Slut is definitely crazy. Certainly conservative, but definitely crazy


Yeah, but think of howthe upcoming debt ceiling negotiations would go betweenBachmann and Obama. I think I'd pay to watch those on cable.

Posted by: crisis du jour at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (J1eJz)

175 >>>Someone last night said leave the seat unfilled and then nothing can be done..... Is this even an option?

They have to repeatedly vote until the seat is filled. It is possible to not fill it. But their order of business every hour of every day would be to vote for a speaker.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (0q2P7)

176 Because if you can turn it around you become instantly famous. I don't think it requires anybody particularly glib to be able to turn the JEF into Ragey McTantrum

This requires a politician available who actually wants to turn it around. However the principal split has finally become ruling class vs. peasants, not R vs. D.

I would love to see Ragey McTantrum, but he's got a lot of self-control in front of a camera. He's a psychopath, and psychopaths make pretty good actors.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (Lxw+T)

177 >
Jones in CO, there is a bathroom on the right.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (fpSpD)
yer talkin mah language

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (8sCoq)

178


Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:06 PM (0q2P7)

Negative, sir, merely pointing out that we are already regarded, collectively, as kooks and whackjobs. Bachmann's ship is already sunk, I think, and so I do not pay her vote here a lot of heed.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (xw1VU)

179 Plan B would not have passed the Senate as is but it would have forced the Democrats hand to vote down a bill to avert the so called 'fiscal cliff' . It would also have given the Senate Republicans more leverage in structuring a compromise. Instead we got a worse bill and the Democrats got away without having to vote down a bill.

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (m2CN7)

180
>>>Yeah, but think of howthe upcoming debt ceiling negotiations would
go betweenBachmann and Obama. I think I'd pay to watch those on cable.

CSPAN goes pay per view.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:17 PM (0q2P7)

181
Yeah, but think of howthe upcoming debt ceiling negotiations would go betweenBachmann and Obama. I think I'd pay to watch those on cable.


Especially if they served corn dogs.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:17 PM (Lxw+T)

182 Bachmann went off my list for anything leadership related when she accidentally channeled Chukkkles of LGF and his screeds about vaccinations.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Allowing a Newsweek photog to shoot her didn't do anything to improve her standing in my estimation either.

"Hi, make me look like a loon. Please!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:17 PM (KDq5l)

183
Drew writes:
"crazy Michele Bachmann"
And therein explains why conservatism is doomed. You Beta Male Dickless Wonders just can't help it. You just can't help it. Fuck you, Drew. And, no, I never supported Michele Bachmann. I think she's a big reason why Obamacare got passed, and she had no business running for President and shedamaged the Republican Party by doing so. But you don't go out of your way your wayeat your own and idiots like you will never grasp that simple concept.

Posted by: Jaynie59 at January 03, 2013 01:17 PM (4zKCA)

184 Hopefully, there's a plan to backdoor Boehner, like on that Big Brother show.

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 03, 2013 01:18 PM (BVkEs)

185 OT: Since we deduct our state income tax from our federal income tax liability, I think it would be an interesting experiment for one of the red states to instate a state income tax schedule exactly the same as the federal income tax schedule, thereby exempting its residents from paying any federal tax.

A whole state going Galt, if you will.

What would happen, do you think?

Posted by: Truman North at January 03, 2013 01:18 PM (I2LwF)

186 Where is Chuck Berry and his Gong when you need him?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:18 PM (fpSpD)

187 >>>>I think she's a big reason why Obamacare got passed

I think she's a big reason why Obamacare isn't single payer.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (0q2P7)

188
I'm more interested in who the Democrats will pick to be their minority leader and whip and whatever the one is called.

I'd rather spend time shitting on Democrats and mocking them.


Will Pelosi screw over Clyburn again?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (jUytm)

189 OT: any movie that includes a CCR song on the soundtrack is automatically good
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (8sCoq)


I must disagree. "Forrest Gump" has CCR on the soundtrack. "Forrest Gump" is ahorrible, mealy-mouthed movie about a stupid whore who dies of AIDS. Well, okay, technically it's about Forrest "Larry Stu" Gump, but the only thing that ever stuck with me was stupid Jenny.

But I do love the soundtrack.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (4df7R)

190 Hopefully, there's a plan to backdoor Boehner, like on that Big Brother show.
Posted by: CraigPoe at January 03, 2013 01:18 PM (BVkEs)


Is that where the GOP is learning it's strategy now, Big Brother?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (l86i3)

191 Corn dogs sound damned good right now.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (xw1VU)

192
If 2014 isn't the year of the Tea Party, we all better give up.

With that in mind, Palin should be Speaker.

Posted by: jwest at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (ZDsRL)

193 Are you seriously suggesting that West would do a bad job of that, especially in comparison to Boehner?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:14 PM (GsoHv)

Unfortunately West was a Pigford supporter or at least voted in favor of its legislation.

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (m2CN7)

194 184
Hopefully, there's a plan to backdoor Boehner, like on that Big Brother show.


Posted by: CraigPoe at January 03, 2013 01:18 PM (BVkEs)

No, Barney Frank resigned, remember?

Posted by: joncelli at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (RD7QR)

195 Hopefully, there's a plan to backdoor Boehner

EYEBLEACH!!!

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (Lxw+T)

196 Remember frat Brothers... passion is bad. It's wrong. It has no place in polite society.

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (cVYiZ)

197 You HAVE to have a speaker per the Constitution:

"The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other ..."

Shall is a direct command, where something like "may" would make it optional.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (hc3eM)

198 The only Republicans I don't like are the ones who turn on me and what I stand for, or help the Democrats.
Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (jUytm)


That would besincethe Harding administration, I take it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (zF6Iw)

199
And maybe, just maybe, send out press releases every g-ddamn week to every media outlet, national and international, that say, "Day XXXX without a federal budget. Where is the Senate?" Over and over again. Put in some basic language about all the budget bills the House has sent over to the Senate, and just keep asking the question.

And remind the country that they are in violation of the 1994 law signed by B J Cliton that requires said budget.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (yiIja)

200
You Beta Male Dickless Wonders just can't help it.

I concur.

It's a sign of impotence.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (jUytm)

201
Damn it. Glucose has crept up to 102.


Anyone know how to naturally lower Glucose level?

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (1Y+hH)

202 151 Prediction: there will be exactly 16 defections.
Posted by: Truman North at January 03, 2013 01:13 PM (+uCKr)

173 @@robertcostaNRO: I got 16 against Boehner: 2 West, 2 Cantor, 1 Lab, 1 Jordan, 1 Walker, 1 Amash = 8, plus eight GOP abstains = 16
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (YjDyJ)



Hmm. I was half-joking.

Posted by: Truman North at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (I2LwF)

203 Speaker or Sqeaker?

I don't think Kim has squeaked for a while now.

Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (KXm42)

204 fficially 17 no votes or abstains. Wow.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (yAor6)

205 Another 2 years of this dolt calling tax increases "reveneue enhancement".

If you use democrat code words in your speeches to people, you will be forced to make bad deals with communists.

Posted by: realityman at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (obXkJ)

206 >>>No offense Drew but she's a hell of a lot smarter than you.

Nah, not really. Let's be honest though: you just like her because she's a Christian conservative woman with a pretty face. Put the same history, personality, (nonexistent) legislative record, etc. into the body of a 65-year-old white guy from Virginia, and you wouldn't know or care one iota about "Mitchell Bachmann."

It's amazing how short people's memories are -- remember Bachmann's crazypants primary campaign? REMEMBER?

Oh, and she barely, barely won reelection in a district designed to be "safe Republican" (and in a state that is getting more Republican, not less so, so you can't just blame shifting demographics). Why? Because even her own constituents, who should be her most solid supporters -- for all the shit John Boehner gets around the interwebs, go ask his Cincinnati-area constituents what they think of him and prepare to be surprised -- are fucking sick of her. She's terrible at her job. She ignores the people in her district she's supposed to be here to represent. She undercuts and sabotages conservatism on a national level with her wacky BS statements.

Yeah, she'd make a great speaker of the house. Because pretty face + tits + record of sitting the back and simply shrieking "NO NO NO" to every single thing instead of actually proposing a single constructive solution! That's what we need.

It gets easier to see where "Let it Burn" really comes from. Some people on our team really do seem to think it's just fun now to play with gasoline and matches and burn the country down because hey, we lost the election so who cares about the rest of America? And they just want to maximize their entertainment/satisfaction value by putting the loudest, most egregious, most ineffective, but most obstreperous person in charge so that when everything burns, at least they'll enjoy the pretty dancing lights.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 01:21 PM (/COnL)

207 What would happen, do you think?Posted by: Truman North at January 03, 2013 01:18 PM (I2LwF)I don't know but I love the concept.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:21 PM (1Y+hH)

208 185
OT: Since we deduct our state income tax from our federal income tax
liability, I think it would be an interesting experiment for one of the
red states to instate a state income tax schedule exactly the same as
the federal income tax schedule, thereby exempting its residents from
paying any federal tax.



A whole state going Galt, if you will.



What would happen, do you think?

Posted by: Truman North

Are you sure about that? Don't we deduct state income taxes from our gross income?

Posted by: SFGoth at January 03, 2013 01:21 PM (dZ756)

209 @robertcostaNRO Cantor looks pissed. Real pissed.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:21 PM (YjDyJ)

210 I would love to see Ragey McTantrum, but he's got a
lot of self-control in front of a camera. He's a psychopath, and
psychopaths make pretty good actors.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (Lxw+T)


I agree with this except he's never been tested by the likes of Boehner and Willard never giving him the mockery he so richly deserves. The closest that anybody came to doing that was when Paul Ryan gave him a high colonic in the "debate" about Bammycare and it took every bit of the pharmacy that ValJar pumps into him daily to keep him from melting down imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 01:21 PM (OW/Yj)

211 True. But it requires a bit of backbone and a refusal to take any shit,
especially when you're outnumbered by the Senate and Executive majority.
It's less about cheerleading and more about some good old-fashioned
arm-twisting.


That's true, but most of the arm-twisting is traditionally done within the party to keep them in line.

In that regard, Boehner hasn't been very effective.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:21 PM (SY2Kh)

212 LOL, that's fun to see. How many Obamabots?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:02 PM (l86i3)
**About 50/50 but I suspect more closet Bots than pubes. The mexicans keep their mouths shut...for the most part.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (jvd3N)

213 OT. OSP, Kinley Ardal, and MWR. From earlier thread.

Well while talking about Japanese culture this morning and a light bulb popped on that affects the book more deeply than I thought. Will have to add now. And well a pen names becomes an even better idea because of this. Wonder if I should be looking into the FBI's Witness Protection while at it. Fans will not be happy with me at all.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (fpSpD)

214 The GOP has been using survivor and big brother strategies of just doing the easy vote and not taking any hard core position on anything... I wish they'd pull a dr will and back door boehner there's not enough Ed medicine to make him potent

Posted by: phoenixgirl so done with the GOP at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (gV1Uk)

215 Don't tempt him. He can't be real happy right now.

Don't Tempt Him? Hell, get the fatted calf ready for a sacrifice to get him to do some Old Testament Smiting.

Posted by: Paladin at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (mCOPv)

216 Way to go Drew.

Calling Bachman crazy feeds right into the slime the left does to conservative women.

You could be progressive.

Posted by: GardenGnome at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (5TFvk)

217 Please don't let Pelosi win..... Please don't let Pelosi win.... *fingers crossed*

Though Boeher is not palatable to me, either.... but still, Please don't let Pelosi win...

Posted by: Cynthia at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (lhhNH)

218 "Hi, make me look like a loon. Please!"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:17 PM (KDq5l)


It doesn't matter. They took Sarah Palin's photo from that fitness magazine to make her seem like a fluff-headed pretty girl with more looks than sense. If they want to destroy you with visuals, they'll find a way to do it. If MB hadn't allowed the photographs, they would ahve just got someone to do a crazy-eyed caricature of her. And guess what? We'd all be saying, "She should have let them take her picture!"

It's impossible to win in that situation. So just move on and work on destroying the media who take part in the manipulation instead of the candidates who are manipulated, whoever they may be.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (4df7R)

219 Bachmann was waiting to see if she could do a pointless no vote. what balls huh?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (yAor6)

220
and speaking of impotent beta males...

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (jUytm)

221 Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (m2CN7)

What a fucking meaningless tidbit of shit.

This is exactly why we fucking retards get rolled all of the time.

The guy is a firebrand and doesn't take shit from anyone. You dredge up a single vote, for which he has expressed regret, and that makes him suspect, and certainly not pure enough to be Speaker.

We are fucked, and it's our fault.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:23 PM (GsoHv)

222 Yeah, well… I’m gonna go build my own Republican Party, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, Republican Party!

Posted by: Bender at January 03, 2013 01:23 PM (hh+cN)

223 If my TV lookity box has taught me anything, it's that Allen West and Michelle Bachman are crazy-eyed wingnuts.

That's what shows me the football... so I know it's true.

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 01:23 PM (cVYiZ)

224 @robertcostaNRO Boehner should be reelected as Bachmann, Garrett, Blackburn vote for Boehner

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:23 PM (YjDyJ)

225 200: Not sure I understand why remarking on someone's obvious problems as a candidate for something is suddenly beta male territory.

Posted by: Heralder at January 03, 2013 01:24 PM (+xmn4)

226
for all the shit John Boehner gets around the interwebs, go ask his Cincinnati-area constituents what they think of him and prepare to be surprised

Why would I be suprised that FSA likes people who bring home the free shit?

Posted by: Entropy at January 03, 2013 01:24 PM (TULs6)

227 "We are fucked, and it's our fault."

well we have taken our balls and gone home in the last 2 Prez elections

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 03, 2013 01:24 PM (yAor6)

228 Art 1, Section II

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.


"shall chuse" meaning that they MUST pick a SOH. The have to fill the office.

Posted by: Vic at January 03, 2013 01:24 PM (53z96)

229
Marcia Blackburn would be a good Mistah Speakah.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:24 PM (jUytm)

230 If you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you've always got.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 03, 2013 01:24 PM (bb5+k)

231
The only way they let the tax bill go through is so that they can firm it up for the debt cliff and continuing resolution or--god forbid--a budget. Many yes votes even claimed this.
If they (Boehner and House Repubs) stand firm on spending, all is forgiven and they look like geniuses and stick it right up Obama's nose. He'll never get the stink out. If they cave, they lose every bit of right of centre support and they are toast for a decade. I can't see the benefit of them going along with a big spending deal.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 03, 2013 01:24 PM (VLifP)

232
If I recall, Marcia Blackburn is attractive, yes?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (jUytm)

233
A whole state going Galt, if you will.

What would happen, do you think?


Lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth and screams from the Left and the MFM (BIRM).

It's sneaky, low-down, and would send a big ol' Fuck You to DC.

I like it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (yiIja)

234 Chuse or lose?

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (NIZHJ)

235 I must disagree. "Forrest Gump" has CCR on the soundtrack. "Forrest Gump" is ahorrible, mealy-mouthed movie about a stupid whore who dies of AIDS. Well, okay, technically it's about Forrest "Larry Stu" Gump, but the only thing that ever stuck with me was stupid Jenny.

But I do love the soundtrack.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (4df7R)



I have never understood those who think Forrest Gump is an uplifting movie. The two main women in his life, his mother and Jenny, are portrayed as utter whores. His mother quite literally whores herself out to get Forrest into school. Jenny is given a dread disease for the crime of having sex. Let's be blunt, the original Halloween and Friday the 13th movies have a more nuanced and delicate manner of handling female sexuality.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (VtjlW)

236 Tell me again why we can't have congressional term limits?

Posted by: T.R. McCoy at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (kPeYK)

237 And I too would prefer Bachmann over Boner. West's statue with me drastically declines when he voted for Pigford II in that lame duck session.

Posted by: Vic at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (53z96)

238 Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 01:21 PM (/COnL)

You might want to read what the poster wrote again because obviously you didn't read it the first time.

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (m2CN7)

239 Anyone know how to naturally lower Glucose level?

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (1Y+hH)

Intercourse with Kate Upton and Brooklyn Decker.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (GsoHv)

240 Good bye Republican Party. Nothing worth saving now. Think I'm going down to change my registration to Independent... I can't stand the stink coming off the party's rot.

Posted by: Multitude at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (bpONz)

241 And let me remind you of something, they are burning the place, down, and you're giving them the gasoline, so it's not really a choice of whether or not to 'let it burn', they already have the matches.

Posted by: phillip fry at January 03, 2013 01:26 PM (Jsiw/)

242 Will Pelosi screw over Clyburn again?

Is the psychological scarring from that mental image covered by Obamacare?

Posted by: Penfold at January 03, 2013 01:26 PM (Fbt5B)

243 206

no no no is an appropriate response to certain things, i wouldn't call Bachmann's problem that.

Posted by: JDP at January 03, 2013 01:26 PM (60GaT)

244 Unfortunately West was a Pigford supporter or at least voted in favor of its legislation.
Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:19 PM (m2CN7)


And came out and admitted that he was wrong to do it. I trust West to learn from mistakes like that, unlike others.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:26 PM (4df7R)

245 I'm a social retard. Don't mind me.

My mom says I'm awesome though.

Posted by: fiscal cliff at January 03, 2013 01:26 PM (KXm42)

246
I just thought of this term, "frat-con" and I am going to use it in every comment I leave.
Frat-con.
There, see? Suck it, bitches.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 03, 2013 01:26 PM (r5w1L)

247 Wow, all these attacks on Allen West and Michele Bachmann...what is this, Hot Air?

Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 03, 2013 01:26 PM (7ObY1)

248 Yay! Pfffft....

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (BVkEs)

249 Boehner was seen weeping for joy after the vote

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (nTgAI)

250
it would be nice to have a Mistress Speaker

historic, too

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (jUytm)

251 Spongie, hate to break the news to you. Someone else coined that term like last year.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (fpSpD)

252 All cells burn Glucose. Just do something.

Posted by: Butters at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (NIZHJ)

253 Figures. The only time Boehner firmly holds his coalition together is when his election is at stake.

Posted by: DRJ at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (iqHi+)

254 I just thought of this term, "frat-con" and I am going to use it in every comment I leave.
Frat-con.
There, see? Suck it, bitches.

INORITE!!!

Posted by: fiscal cliff at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (KXm42)

255 Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:16 PM (m2CN7)


Don't you think if Boehner was a good Speaker he would've dealt with the recalcitrant party members way before the eleventh hour leading to the "fiscal cliff" and before he needed to lock up votes for Plan B? I don't know how he escapes criticism for his lack of planning for that.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (OW/Yj)

256 AlextheChick for Speaker!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (fpSpD)

257 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (VtjlW)

The bitch gave him AIDS and he died three years later. He used all of his money for treatments, left his son destitute, and the kid lived on the street for years before being killed in a convenience store robbery.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (GsoHv)

258 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:22 PM (fpSpD)


I used a pen name because I was brutally honest abot the muzztards treatment of women and children. I'm not afraid, but I have a wife and children.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:28 PM (l86i3)

259 Anyone know how to naturally lower Glucose level?Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (1Y+hH) Intercourse with Kate Upton and Brooklyn Decker.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (GsoHv)

at the same time

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 03, 2013 01:28 PM (nTgAI)

260 It's impossible to win in that situation. So just move on and work on destroying the media who take part in the manipulation instead of the candidates who are manipulated, whoever they may be.
Posted by: MWR


No, you simply say that you will send a picture for publication. Period. It's not a difficult situation.

What you don't do is walk into their trap. What you don't do is walk into their studios and allow yourself to be destroyed.

You would have to be an idiot to do that after they did the *exact* thing to McCain in 2008.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:28 PM (KDq5l)

261 "
Why would I be suprised that FSA likes people who bring home the free shit?"

so much cynicism mayn

not saying it doesn't have its place, but still. saying stuff is almost like inverse Marxist false consciousness

Posted by: JDP at January 03, 2013 01:28 PM (60GaT)

262
250
it would be nice to have a Mistress Speaker



Elvira! Mistress of the Dark!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 01:28 PM (b1VIZ)

263 Boehner should take the oath in an Elvis costume.

Posted by: CraigPoe at January 03, 2013 01:29 PM (BVkEs)

264 I'm done with all of them. Changed my party affiliation to "unaffiliated"

I wash my hands of the whole thing.

Posted by: Spartacaustic at January 03, 2013 01:29 PM (aTU2F)

265 Cassandra Peterson for Speaker. Yeah her globes would hypnotize any normal male. Barney Frank though would be unphased.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:29 PM (fpSpD)

266 You have nothing to fear from my friend Senator Obama!




Posted by: Sen John McCain - 2008 at January 03, 2013 01:29 PM (EZl54)

267 The squishes are out in force today.

Posted by: Soona at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (+j9eE)

268 @robertcostaNRO Confirmed: Nine Republicans voted against Boehner w/ another name: 3 Cantor, 2 West, 1 Labrador, 1 Jordan, 1 Walker, 1 Amash

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (YjDyJ)

269 >>>Unfortunately West was a Pigford supporter or at least voted in favor of its legislation

*sigh*

Look, Allen West 1.) doesn't have a seat in the next Congress (spare me the whole "b-b-but he doesn't have to in order to be Speaker!" stuff); 2.) would make a TERRIBLE Speaker of the House. This isn't a fucking PR job, it's not about cable news appearances and media buzz, it's about backroom legislative gruntwork.

But. But. This attitude on display here (and polynikes, I know you're a reasonable guy) is kind of what makes me despair for conservatism. I find this almost impossible to believe, but it's like we haven't learned our lesson from 2010 and 2012, and are actually making the "Purity Test" even MORE tight, even more unforgiving.

Because...Pigford? Seriously? Yeah, it was a disgrace, but newsflash: it's a fuckin' drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things. It's not like voting for Obamacare, or some shit like that. It's NOTHING. You know why we care about Pigford SO SO MUCH? No real reason, other than it was a Breitbart scoop and they pushed it hard into our consciousness. I see guys talking about Pigford like it's the fucking Kennedy Assassination. For Christ's sake, the fact that an otherwise solidly conservative (even inspiring) Congressman didn't cast the right vote on a micro-micro-scandal that matters only because it was dug up by a beloved online conservative muckraker should not be an auto-disqualifier.

The more we treat our leaders like they're RPG characters in a video game, or American Idol contestants, and demand perfect, unblemished records, the more we will destroy ourselves. If for no other reason than we, as conservatives, have a nasty habit of applying RETROACTIVE tests as well -- declaring people unacceptable for votes they took long ago, that we approved of at the time but only later turned against.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (/COnL)

270 Are you seriously suggesting that West would do a bad job of that, especially in comparison to Boehner?

I don't know. Neither do you, because as a one-termer his record in Congress is too thin.

Nominating a Speaker of the House who isn't in the House would be absurd. A Speaker who himself has no skin in the game? No thanks.

And to follow up on Jeff B's righteous rant, if West was just another backbench white (former) Rep from Florida, none of you would still give two shits about him.

Save the celebrity showdowns for Reality TV where it belongs.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)

271 >Tell me again why we can't have congressional term limits?

Because it would have to be passed- by Congress


Question: if you're one of the engineers on The Gravy Train, do you deliberately run it off the tracks?

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (8sCoq)

272
Some people on our team really do seem to think it's just fun now to play with gasoline and matches and burn the country down because hey, we lost the election so who cares about the rest of America?

Dude, do you have a plan for where we are going to get 300 trillion dollars?

Posted by: Entropy at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (TULs6)

273
Posted by: CraigPoe at January 03, 2013 01:29 PM (BVkEs)




...while the hot robo-models writhe behind him ala 'addicted to love'.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (b1VIZ)

274 You GOP/Establishment fellas just don't grasp things very well do you??? It's because of these career dipshits and Democrats we have 16T worth of debt!!!!
SMH.....and you wonder why we say L.I.B.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 03, 2013 01:31 PM (3YN0H)

275 If I recall, Marcia Blackburn is attractive, yes?

Insert Jan Brady "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!" joke here.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 01:31 PM (zF6Iw)

276
why not!

We're gonna lose the House in 2014, anyway, might as well have fun now while we can.

Boner should just take Booger's advice from RISKY BUSINESS and just say...


Fuck it.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:31 PM (jUytm)

277 BTW the deduction for state income tax doesn't work that way. It's a deduction from taxable income, not a tax credit. You'll still pay federal income tax even if you pay federal-sized rates to your state, because if you still have income left after paying state taxes, you pay federal tax on that remaining income.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:31 PM (Lxw+T)

278 Intercourse with Kate Upton and Brooklyn Decker.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (GsoHv)



Go on.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:31 PM (VtjlW)

279 255 Don't you think if Boehner was a good Speaker he would've dealt with the recalcitrant party members way before the eleventh hour leading to the "fiscal cliff" and before he needed to lock up votes for Plan B? I don't know how he escapes criticism for his lack of planning for that.

Neither Boehner nor the rank-and-file are what I would call "great planners".

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (YjDyJ)

280 i'm in between the "why can't we fight harderrrrr" wishcasting and the Jeff B reflexive squishiness i feel like. how mavericky

Posted by: JDP at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (60GaT)

281 Is it true the Speaker's podium has a built-in slot for Kleenex?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (Lxw+T)

282 *hears a door open and something being dragged into the living room*
AtC you getting the Sybian out?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (fpSpD)

283 I have never understood those who think Forrest Gump is an uplifting movie. The two main women in his life, his mother and Jenny, are portrayed as utter whores. His mother quite literally whores herself out to get Forrest into school. Jenny is given a dread disease for the crime of having sex. Let's be blunt, the original Halloween and Friday the 13th movies have a more nuanced and delicate manner of handling female sexuality.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (VtjlW)


Forrest Gump is one of those movies where you feel like you're SUPPOSED to walk out of the theater happy and refreshed,but the first thing you want to do upon getting home is take a shower because you don't think you'll ever feel clean again.

My biggest problem was Forrest himself. He could do no wrong. Talk about a male Mary Sue. Not even one foible. Ever.

Well, except his obsession with Jenny, who abandoned him and stomped on his heart multiple times before dying and leaving him with a kid he didn't know and probably couldn't care for properly. Good going, Jenny!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (4df7R)

284 Anyone know how to naturally lower Glucose level?Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 03, 2013 01:20 PM (1Y+hH)
Intercourse with Kate Upton and Brooklyn Decker.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:25 PM (GsoHv)


Aaaanndd there goes Meremortal's BP through the roof. . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (zF6Iw)

285 I have never understood those who think Forrest Gump is an uplifting
movie. The two main women in his life, his mother and Jenny, are
portrayed as utter whores. His mother quite literally whores herself
out to get Forrest into school. Jenny is given a dread disease for the
crime of having sex. Let's be blunt, the original Halloween and
Friday the 13th movies have a more nuanced and delicate manner of
handling female sexuality.


Female whoring aside, I still like the movie even though it's chock full o' libtards with the exception of Gary Sinese. To me, it's about an ordinary person ending up accomplishing extraordinary things almost by accident, and certainly not by design. He doesn't have any ambitions, except to be with his one true love Jenny. He keeps his word to his friends and family to the letter, never thinking to break a promise. His life flows almost randomly because others around him make decisions that impact his future, like the little white feather that we see floating around at the very end.

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (GQ8sn)

286 >>>"I just thought of this term, "frat-con" and I am going to use it in every comment I leave.
Frat-con.
There, see? Suck it, bitches."

I'd like to take credit, but I can't. It was in a post a few days ago where Ace was arguing with a poster about how much he hated the "who's most Conservative" meme (never mind the term "RINO" is exactly that and is constantly referenced on this site).

The frat-con label rang true and stuck with me. I think it describes the main thread of opining on this site. You disagree?

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (cVYiZ)

287 Neither Boehner nor the rank-and-file are what I would call "great planners".
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (YjDyJ)

They are reactionaries. Obama uses them as ping pong balls.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (l86i3)

288 How would having sex with sugar reduce your glucose?


I asks ya.

Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (KXm42)

289 No, you simply say that you will send a picture for publication. Period. It's not a difficult situation.

Which they will photoshop to cast you in the worst imaginable light. Remember George Zimmerman?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (4df7R)

290 >>>Because Truuuuu Conservative.

There are days when I think you earn a lot of the animosity that comes your way. You make discussion less about elaborating the topic to be discussed, and more about bashing your intellectual competition to prove your superiority. And don't give me that "But but but, they do the same thing" you're a cob, you could act a little more mature.

So instead of taking the opportunity to discuss why MB may have voted for Boehner, and what the practical political value might be, and using her supporters respect for her to enhance your point of view to be both intellectually, AND emotionally convincing, you use it to take a cheap shot instead. That's why you can't convince anyone. You would rather beat them than change their mind.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (0q2P7)

291 "BTW the deduction for state income tax doesn't work that way. It's a deduction from taxable income, not a tax credit." All depends how you do the paperwork!

Posted by: Turbotax Timmy Geithner at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (/Mla1)

292 96 Some of you would call Jesus a CINO.
Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:03 PM (m2CN7)

----

Well, I don't know but Obama heals the sick and feeds the poor.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (qsvBF)

293 253 Figures. The only time Boehner firmly holds his coalition together is when his election is at stake.
Posted by: DRJ at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (iqHi+)



Well, that IS the hill to die on. Just like Republicans do in primary fights, but not in general elections.

Posted by: Truman North at January 03, 2013 01:34 PM (I2LwF)

294
/enter akinmillerbuckmourdockangle

you guys are so predictable

Posted by: soothsayer at January 03, 2013 01:34 PM (jUytm)

295 I was just making a comment about how I liked CCR's music

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:34 PM (8sCoq)

296 @RBPundit I want to know who thought the "Let's pretend there's a mutiny going on and maybe someone will step up" thing up.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:34 PM (YjDyJ)

297 Only on the Internet and on talk radio could this ever have been in doubt. Geez. The combination ofarrested developments, lack of real world experience, ignorance and irrationality, truly is breathtaking. Obviously Boehner was going to be reelected Speaker. Duh. In any event, by tomorrow this all will be forgotten. And the nets and radio waves will be focused on their next items of cognitive dissonance. Sigh.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at January 03, 2013 01:35 PM (pmsMR)

298 William Shatner *dramatic pause* for Speaker.

Posted by: eman at January 03, 2013 01:35 PM (EWsrI)

299
"Dude, do you have a plan for where we are going to get 300 trillion dollars?"

Uh. Legalize weed and tax it?

Yeah. That's all I got.

Posted by: Jaws at January 03, 2013 01:35 PM (4I3Uo)

300 Well, that IS the hill to die on. Just like Republicans do in primary fights, but not in general elections.
Posted by: Truman North at January 03, 2013 01:34 PM (I2LwF)


BOOM, take that Mitt.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:35 PM (l86i3)

301 Female whoring aside, I still like the movie even though it's chock full o' libtards with the exception of Gary Sinese. To me, it's about an ordinary person ending up accomplishing extraordinary things almost by accident, and certainly not by design. He doesn't have any ambitions, except to be with his one true love Jenny. He keeps his word to his friends and family to the letter, never thinking to break a promise. His life flows almost randomly because others around him make decisions that impact his future, like the little white feather that we see floating around at the very end.
Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:33 PM (GQ8sn)
It was only a success because Hanks didn't go full retard.

Posted by: yinzer at January 03, 2013 01:35 PM (/Mla1)

302 256
AlextheChick for Speaker!


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (fpSpD)

No no no, AtC for Majority Whip! MUCH more appropriate!

Posted by: joncelli at January 03, 2013 01:35 PM (RD7QR)

303 mystery blog fu:

On the main page, headline reads: Unofficia Taly

When you go to the comment page, it reads: Unofficial Tally

Impressive.

Posted by: shibumi at January 03, 2013 01:35 PM (z63Tr)

304 Sarah Palin for Speaker. Let's really stick it to the Dems, Dingy Harry, and SCOAMF.

Posted by: Jon in TX at January 03, 2013 01:35 PM (PYAXX)

305 Jones in CO. Careful what you comment. It just may go sideways on you.

Never liked Jenny at all in that movie. All she wanted to do was make herself happy. Even her bringing her child to Forrest is tainted by that selfishness.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (fpSpD)

306 Regarding Forrest Gump, the reason people like it is Hanks knows how to pull on heart-strings and make people think that he's something other than a Whoreyweird prick with shit for brains.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (OW/Yj)

307 And to follow up on Jeff B's righteous rant, if West was just another backbench white (former) Rep from Florida, none of you would still give two shits about him.

With all due respect, that's bullshit. West's knowledge of conservatism, history and American values is what makes him so popular. Watching the video of him smacking down that CAIR representative at that one town hall meeting by schooling the man on Islamic history is like porn. If he'd been white, or old, or female, or gay, I'd feel the same damn way.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (4df7R)

308 I was just making a comment about how I liked CCR's music
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 03, 2013 01:34 PM (8sCoq)

Oh sure, nothing is as it appears, we get your coded talk here mister.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (l86i3)

309 294

but if the GOP ran exclusively on "hardheaded economic conservatism" (some consultant's post-election words) we'd be kickin' ass maaan. cuz i say so.

Posted by: JDP at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (60GaT)

310 AtC you getting the Sybian out?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (fpSpD)



Motherfuckers cut the lines again. I'm exploring geothermal now. Not that. I'm trying to make my own volcano or anything. *shifty eyes*


My biggest problem was Forrest himself. He could do no wrong. Talk about a male Mary Sue. Not even one foible. Ever.


Exactly. It's the whole Nobel Retard thing along with the Magic Negro. Though it does kind of fall into John Waters' discussion about Showgirls where in a reply to an allegation that it is misogynistic he replied along the line of "Oh that movie hates everyone so that's okay".

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (VtjlW)

311
"To me, it's about an ordinary person ending up accomplishing extraordinary things almost by accident"




Hauling wounded comrades outo of a fire zone?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (b1VIZ)

312 Which they will photoshop to cast you in the worst imaginable light. Remember George Zimmerman?

Remember the Condi Rice devil eyes? Stay classy MFM.

Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (KXm42)

313 I was just making a comment about how I liked CCR's music

I like them too. Straight up rockin' music without any gimmicks or bullshit.

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:36 PM (GQ8sn)

314 Don't you think if Boehner was a good Speaker he would've dealt with the recalcitrant party members way before the eleventh hour leading to the "fiscal cliff" and before he needed to lock up votes for Plan B? I don't know how he escapes criticism for his lack of planning for that.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 01:27 PM (OW/Yj)

I don't disagree.

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:37 PM (m2CN7)

315
"This isn't a fucking PR job, it's not about cable news appearances and media buzz, it's about backroom legislative gruntwork."

Jeff B would be correct if we had a republican president, but we don't - so it's ass backwards.

Speaker of the House during an adminstration like this is a fucking PR job. It's all about cable news appearances and media buzz. The job of the Speaker is put the conservative case out there more effectively than the jerk in the White House can sell the liberal nonsense.

The reason our side is being pummeled right now is that they are winning the PR war.

Posted by: jwest at January 03, 2013 01:37 PM (ZDsRL)

316 Cantor, McCarthy, Price and Ryan all voted for Boehner. The revolution...it never showed up.


CRAZY CANTOR AND CRAZY MCCARTHY AND CRAZY PRICE AND CRAZY RYAN all voted for Boehner.

So, what Drew is saying is, Michelle Bachmann is NOT crazy.

Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 01:37 PM (LpQbZ)

317
I don't know. Neither do you, because as a one-termer his record in Congress is too thin.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)


Allan West said: "For my men, i'd walk through hell with a gallon of gasoline strapped to my chest."



What else do you need to know about him?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 03, 2013 01:38 PM (bb5+k)

318 Hauling wounded comrades outo of a fire zone?

He was looking for Bubba specifically.

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:38 PM (GQ8sn)

319
Just because it stuck with you doesn't mean it belongs in every sentence. That's tiresome and repetitive. People do that when they're trying to insult someone but getting no reaction.

Grow the fuck up.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 03, 2013 01:38 PM (r5w1L)

320 Jenny's character developed all from her childhood abuse. That is the message I got.

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:39 PM (m2CN7)

321 A volcano grows in the NE? Do tell or not.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:39 PM (fpSpD)

322 William Shatner *dramatic pause* for Speaker.

I... second. The.



Motion!

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at January 03, 2013 01:39 PM (Lxw+T)

323 253 Figures. The only time Boehner firmly holds his coalition together is when his election is at stake.

I would prefer a different Speaker but no one volunteered. In fact, it sounds like Cantor was angry that he received votes.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:39 PM (YjDyJ)

324 No, that's not why, because when he was in Iraq, he did everything to save his men, from an insurgent attack, even if it required giving up his career to do so, and he would do it again in a heart beat. because he's been right on the big issues, what would Boehner go to the ramparts to defend, nothing, this is why we find ourselves in the place we are in,

Posted by: phillip fry at January 03, 2013 01:39 PM (Jsiw/)

325 >>>@RBPundit I want to know who thought the "Let's pretend there's a mutiny going on and maybe someone will step up" thing up.

80sBaby --

Isn't rather obvious? It was all a creation of the Washington-based "Tea Party" (read: whoring for internet $$$-donations) groups like Americans for Majority Action, plus Breitbart and Redstate. I don't doubt that they got someone like Tim Huelskamp (who can't get hit by a train soon enough) to chime in with some supportive-but-vague words, but that's really all it was.

It's actually quite an embarrassment for them, but that presumes we still live in a world where such groups are capable of feeling shame. I tend not to think so, because the sorts of people who hearken to idiots like them aren't the kinds of folks to sit back and say "wait a second...these guys were totally fucking talking out of their asses, what do they really know anyway?" They just want to get their rocks off.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 01:40 PM (/COnL)

326 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 03, 2013 01:40 PM (5DR1j)

327 282
*hears a door open and something being dragged into the living room*
AtC you getting the Sybian out?


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (fpSpD)

**Oh my.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 03, 2013 01:41 PM (jvd3N)

328 I was just making a comment about how I liked CCR's music/i]

Oh, I do, too! It just made me think of FG, and that made me mad, and then I had to vent. Nothing against you at all, JiC! You've got good taste in music.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:41 PM (4df7R)

329 316 ...So, what Drew is saying is, Michelle Bachmann is NOT crazy.

Bachmann ultimately voted for Boehner.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:41 PM (YjDyJ)

330 What the shit?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:41 PM (KDq5l)

331 >>>"People do that when they're trying to insult someone but getting no reaction.

Grow the fuck up."

So I can be a well adjusted FRAT CON like you? Nah. I'll stick with passionate and crazy - thanks.

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 01:42 PM (cVYiZ)

332 Looks like the GOP has decoded that politeness with Marxists is the best strategy. I look forward to our electoral domination in 2014.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 03, 2013 01:42 PM (XN0LR)

333 hey where did the next post disappear to?

Posted by: mallfly at January 03, 2013 01:42 PM (bJm7W)

334 Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 01:37 PM (m2CN7)



Thanks for that response. It makes me feel like I accomplished something useful.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 01:42 PM (OW/Yj)

335 Jaynie59 for Speaker! Of course as a conservative female, if she's halfway decent looking, she'll receive plenty of obscene crap from you porn-obsessed betas, but I have a feeling she can handle it.

Sometimes I wonder why I remain a conservative when my fate as a woman is to have my ideals sabotaged by back-stabbing Repubs of all three genders who are more concerned with celebrating their own wit and prescience than in saving the American republic from destruction.

Posted by: megaglass at January 03, 2013 01:42 PM (vdzKd)

336 Another one of Ace's whizbang disappearing threads.

Posted by: Soona at January 03, 2013 01:42 PM (+j9eE)

337
Bachmann ultimately voted for Boehner.
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:41 PM (YjDyJ)

I guess no one want their office in the transgendered shitter.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:42 PM (l86i3)

338

Ace post comes and go.
Now you see it..

Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 01:43 PM (LpQbZ)

339 327
282

*hears a door open and something being dragged into the living room*
AtC you getting the Sybian out?




Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:32 PM (fpSpD)

**Oh my.


Posted by: dananjcon at January 03, 2013 01:41 PM (jvd3N)

"There's some woman on the phone who wants to know if we can push the reactor to 105%?"

Posted by: Nuclear power plant operator at January 03, 2013 01:43 PM (GQ8sn)

340 Ace post comes and go.
Now you see it..


…But first you will blow.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2013 01:43 PM (QF8uk)

341 I'm sure Bachmann held out for a bigger payoff.

Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at January 03, 2013 01:43 PM (HEa5q)

342 Drudge thanked everyone yesterday for more record page views, only, these guys aren't looking at all. If they did look they'd see that 85% wanted boehner out in the drudge poll.

Although, they haven't followed the will of the people so why should they start now?

Posted by: Caustic at January 03, 2013 01:43 PM (/b8+5)

343 That’s when the bargaining stopped.

Saturday turned to Sunday, and Republicans had still not heard a response to their last offer. Nothing at 11. Nothing at 12. McConnell decided something was wrong. “We couldn’t get the majority leader to counter,” the GOP leader said later. There were now less than 36 hours until the deadline. “The clock was ticking and we were not moving.”

They weren’t moving because Democrats had decided that they had gone as far as they could. Reid and Obama had disagreed privately about what their next offer should be. At one point, Reid was unhappy with an idea that Senate aides said came from Obama — to put the change in Social Security benefits back on the table in exchange for a delay in spending cuts and a rise in the debt limit.

Aides said Reid actually tore up the proposal and threw it into the blazing fire in his ornate green marble fireplace. The paper burned. Reid said he didn’t want evidence that the idea had ever been considered.

Administration officials, for their part, deny that Obama ever considered including the Social Security change in the deal.

Posted by: Jared Loughner at January 03, 2013 01:44 PM (e8kgV)

344 Bachmann ultimately voted for Boehner.
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 01:41 PM (YjDyJ)


Which, if I understand the original commenter's comment correctly, means taht since she voted the same as otherwise sensible Republicans, or at least Republicans who aren't regularly called crazy, she's not herself crazy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:44 PM (4df7R)

345 WTF? There was just a post up on Obamacare & employers ... wasn't there? Poof!

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at January 03, 2013 01:44 PM (MbXOQ)

346 Only 105%?

Scotty -pause- give me -pause- more -longer pause- power!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:44 PM (fpSpD)

347 When an Ace post comes and goes it means something changed in the Matrix.

Or his time machine is acting up again.

Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 01:45 PM (KXm42)

348 LOOK AT MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

*holding breath, turning blue, stamping feet*

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 01:45 PM (QKKT0)

349 WTF? There was just a post up on Obamacare employers ... wasn't there? Poof!

Relax, ace will bring it back.

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:45 PM (GQ8sn)

350 345

I didn't see that either.

Posted by: rickl at January 03, 2013 01:45 PM (zoehZ)

351 Only idiots expected another result.

Reality check!

Posted by: Adjoran at January 03, 2013 01:45 PM (ZHQvg)

352 as long as the world is going to fall into the cosmic ocean any day now, Yahoo news reports "Actor Gerard Depardieu's controversial request is approved by Vladimir Putin himself."

Posted by: mallfly at January 03, 2013 01:45 PM (bJm7W)

353
WTF? There was just a post up on Obamacare employers ... wasn't there? Poof!

Yeah, it had comments and everything.

First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 01:45 PM (yiIja)

354 WTF? There was just a post up on Obamacare employers ... wasn't there? Poof!

Ace is just playing with the time machine he totally doesn't have again.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (5DR1j)

355 MB is not crazy. Believe me, I know crazy.

Posted by: Zombie Patsy Cline at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (b1VIZ)

356 And to follow up on Jeff B's righteous rant, if West was just another backbench white (former) Rep from Florida, none of you would still give two shits about him.

I would. "If it's about the lives of my soldiers, I'd go thru hell with a gasoline can".

If you want me to back someone, put up someone with a fucking spine. Not the quisling popinjays up there now.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (GFM2b)

357 Nominating a Speaker of the House who isn't in the
House would be absurd. A Speaker who himself has no skin in the game? No
thanks.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)

Ah yes....the calls for calm and experience and knowledge of the inner workings of the house.

Total crap. Boehner sucked, and got completely outclassed by the Dems.

West (or any other firebrand you care to name) might not be great, but he would be better than Boehner.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (GsoHv)

358 Ace practices Zen and the Art of Blog Posting.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (fpSpD)

359 Allan West said: "For my men, i'd walk through hell with a gallon of gasoline strapped to my chest."

What else do you need to know about him?


What he'd do to his men when they don't toe the line.

Moot point though. He lost re-election, and thus shouldn't be considered for Speaker.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (SY2Kh)

360 >>>wasn't there? Poof!

Things can just disappear around here. You had better watch yourself. You never know when it is going to strike. And if you're in the thread when it does.

***Shudder***

No one really knows what happens to you.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (0q2P7)

361 Well, this brings a whole new meaning to stop hammer time.


http://bit.ly/YXR3nn


Apropos of nothing, I have to stop at Lowe's on the way home.



Sooooo. ace is watching Primer again, I see.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (VtjlW)

362 >>>No, that's not why, because when he was in Iraq, he did everything to
save his men, from an insurgent attack, even if it required giving up
his career to do so, and he would do it again in a heart beat.


Is there a polite way to point out that demonstrable courage and bravery in a war zone may be a strong character recommendation, but that it really says absolutely nothing whatsoever about a person's qualifications for a job as fraught with byzantine procedural and diplomatic complexities as Speaker of the House? Speaker is not about chest-thumping bravery, it's about guile and craft.

Allen West is a brave man. I hope to see him return to Congress. But absolutely nothing in his record suggests to me that, even if he were still in Congress, he would have any competence to hold a leadership position at this point, and certainly not Speaker.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (/COnL)

363 re 347: no wasn't a time issue, I posted a few minutes after the time on the post itself.

Posted by: mallfly at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (bJm7W)

364 only thing that gets rid of Boehner is a live boy or dead hooker. Or the GOP fucking up so badly that not even all those gerrymandered districts can save them from a voter revolt but that would probably give us that botoxed scrunt back and that would be so much worse.

Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (HEa5q)

365


They simply cannot say they didn't want to divide the GOP on this vote -- by re-endorsing, and hence, supporting Boehner.

Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (LpQbZ)

366 Idiots, even a Potemkin effort to unseat him would have given him some more negotiating power -- "but, but Mast'r Obama those evil Tea Party types are going to beat me up, please a few crumbs ... pleeaase!"

Posted by: Jean at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (TdK8A)

367 Moot point though. He lost re-election, and thus shouldn't be considered for Speaker.

There's no constitutional requirement that the speaker be an elected member of the house.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (hc3eM)

368 :::331 >>>"People do that when they're trying to insult someone but getting no reaction.

Grow the fuck up."

So I can be a well adjusted FRAT CON like you? Nah. I'll stick with passionate and crazy - thanks.

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 01:42 PM (cVYiZ):::

It's a good thing you have such a heroic self___, because to the rest of us you look like an immature, annoying little cockbite without enough ass to handle his weight in the comments section.

So you've got that going for you, I guess.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (QVmdM)

369 >>>A Speaker who himself has no skin in the game? No

thanks.

What? These clowns have skin in the game because they were re-elected?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:48 PM (0q2P7)

370 Sometimes I wonder why I remain a conservative when my fate as a woman is to have my ideals sabotaged by back-stabbing Repubs of all three genders who are more concerned with celebrating their own wit and prescience than in saving the American republic from destruction.
Posted by: megaglass


If your life is determined by comments on this blog, your priorities are odd.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:48 PM (KDq5l)

371 i want someone who can give a real mean speech, one that'll make Obama go "damn now i see the error of my ways"

Posted by: JDP at January 03, 2013 01:48 PM (60GaT)

372 Apropos of nothing, I have to stop at Lowe's on the way home.

Sooooo. ace is watching Primer again, I see.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (VtjlW)



heh. Waiting on a 1,000+ pound delivery of steel shelving today. 1/2 ton'ish. Me and the hubby have a lot of work to do this weekend.

Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (LpQbZ)

373 "But absolutely nothing in his record suggests to me
that, even if he were still in Congress, he would have any competence
to hold a leadership position at this point, and certainly not Speaker. "

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (/COnL)

And you are completely missing the point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (GsoHv)

374 If your life is determined by comments on this blog, your priorities are odd.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:48 PM (KDq5l)



Your words are hurtful.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (VtjlW)

375 If your life is determined by comments on this blog, your priorities are odd off.

Fixed. Obviously a typo.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (5DR1j)

376 three genders? dun geddit

Posted by: JDP at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (60GaT)

377 Speaker is not about chest-thumping bravery, it's about guile and craft.

I would say it’s about guile, craft, and bravery. At least West would have a minimum of one out of three.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (QF8uk)

378 Yesterday, one of my co-workers wondered aloud, "Who represents the Republican party? Chris Christie? Bobby Jindal? John Boehner? The Tea Party?"

I had no answer....

Posted by: shibumi at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (z63Tr)

379 Let the weeping begin

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (1Jaio)

380 A Speaker who himself has no skin in the game?

I prefer to think of it as being "immunized" against the temptations of pork if the speaker were not a voting member of congress.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (hc3eM)

381 Moot point though. He lost re-election, and thus shouldn't be considered for Speaker.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (SY2Kh)


Except that he got at least two votes, so clearly there were those who thought he SHOULD be considered for Speaker. The 'pubs re-districted him right out of his district, but he still had a to-the-wire election.

And frankly, having "skin in the game" hasn't done a damn thing to get Boehner to grow a spine. I'd rather have someone as Speaker who cares more about the country than winning re-election.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:50 PM (4df7R)

382 Public Law 62-5 needs to be amended. Add at least 100 seats to the House while cutting 25% of their salary. Representatives can now afford to tick off part of their constituency because of the seat limit keeps making each district bigger.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:50 PM (fpSpD)

383 Yeah, and they wonder why there is climate change. Our forefathers are spinning in their graves at such a high rate of rotational speed the fucking planet is probably changing its orbital trajectory.

Posted by: Berserker at January 03, 2013 01:50 PM (FMbng)

384 If your life is determined by comments on this blog, your priorities are odd.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:48 PM (KDq5l)


Not determined, nudged.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:50 PM (l86i3)

385 Speaker is not about chest-thumping bravery, it's about guile and craft.

A military commander has no need for guile and craft? Good to know.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 03, 2013 01:50 PM (UyYYt)

386 Allen West is a brave man. I hope to see him return to Congress. But absolutely nothing in his record suggests to me that, even if he were still in Congress, he would have any competence to hold a leadership position at this point, and certainly not Speaker.

Yet weeping boner's record does?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 01:50 PM (GFM2b)

387 …But first you will blow.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2013 01:43 PM (QF8uk)



eh?

default response?

Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 01:50 PM (LpQbZ)

388 Let me see if this works: All commenters must send me gold and jewels.

< waits by mail box >

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:50 PM (KDq5l)

389 "I'd rather have someone as Speaker who cares more about the country than winning re-election."

you realize this type of talk can be thrown both ways, i.e. certain Republicans who voted no on this after they knew their vote wasn't needed

Posted by: JDP at January 03, 2013 01:51 PM (60GaT)

390 You like me. You REALLY like me!!!!

Posted by: Sally Boehner at January 03, 2013 01:51 PM (HZWnf)

391 heh. Waiting on a 1,000+ pound delivery of steel shelving today. 1/2 ton'ish. Me and the hubby have a lot of work to do this weekend.
Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (LpQbZ)



What are you guys making?


Hilariously, I should stop at Lowe's because I really do need a better set of tools. Not that I build a lot of stuff but everyone should have a decent set of tools, just in case.

Distributed Horde knowledge to the rescue! What brands should I look for if I want decent quality but not too expensive tools for basic home repair?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 01:51 PM (VtjlW)

392 Weft-cut, that only works if you are an Underwear Gnome.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:51 PM (fpSpD)

393 West (or any other firebrand you care to name) might not be great, but he would be better than Boehner.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (GsoHv)


As i've mentioned in the past. When you go to war with someone, the first thing you need to know about someone is not whether or not they have superb fighting skills, it's whether or not they are on YOUR SIDE!

I would rather go into a war with people who believe in the cause regardless of their fighting skills, than go into a war with people who are excellent at fighting, but won't fight for the cause.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 03, 2013 01:52 PM (bb5+k)

394

Drudges headliner: Boehner Hangs On

Yeah, Boehner looks weaker, now.

GG!

Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 01:52 PM (LpQbZ)

395 “…But first you will blow.”

eh?

default response?


“Things said by Jefferson, Volume 13.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2013 01:52 PM (QF8uk)

396 >>>Only idiots expected another result.
Reality check!

True, but there is a difference between expect for and hope for. You should respect the latter category.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:52 PM (0q2P7)

397 It was only a success because Hanks didn't go full retard.
Posted by: yinzer


Mama always said you never go full retard.

Posted by: Forrest. Gump. at January 03, 2013 01:52 PM (BrQrN)

398
Moot point though. He lost re-election, and thus shouldn't be considered for Speaker.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 01:46 PM (SY2Kh)

Not convinced he actually lost.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (bb5+k)

399 Allan West said: "For my men, i'd walk through hell with a gallon of gasoline strapped to my chest." What else do you need to know about him?
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 03, 2013 01:38 PM (bb5+k)


Now, that's the kind of crazy, extremist talk that is offensive to our good friends across the aisle, who need our cooperation, good willand understanding to do the work of the American people!

Posted by: The Tan Boner at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (zF6Iw)

400 :::Is there a polite way to point out that demonstrable courage and bravery in a war zone may be a strong character recommendation, but that it really says absolutely nothing whatsoever about a person's qualifications for a job as fraught with byzantine procedural and diplomatic complexities as Speaker of the House? Speaker is not about chest-thumping bravery, it's about guile and craft.:::

And maybe, just MAYBE putting politifags like you and DrewM's fucking pencil-pushing heroes in charge was the absolute wrong move, considering the, I don't know... actual outcome?

Did you have an Adlai Stevenson lunchbox as a kid? Really. I must know.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (QVmdM)

401 Distributed Horde knowledge to the rescue! What brands should I look
for if I want decent quality but not too expensive tools for basic home
repair?


Craftsman. Lifetime guarantee.

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (GQ8sn)

402
You far righties realize how irrelevant you are yet?

Come back to reality and let's do the hard work of fighting the upcoming debt limit talks. Stop listening to the loons.

Posted by: sanity at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (RVjIg)

403 "A man like Herbert Hoover again"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (fpSpD)

404 It's apparent that John Boehner has to do a better job. Now I know all about having to do a better job, as I kept reminding Philadelphia sports fans, week after week. I knew I could do a better job, and I kept promising a better job, but 4 and 12 is a better job then 0 and 16.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 03, 2013 01:54 PM (feFL6)

405 Speaker is not about chest-thumping bravery, it's about guile and craft.

Allen
West is a brave man. I hope to see him return to Congress. But
absolutely nothing in his record suggests to me that, even if he were
still in Congress, he would have any competence to hold a leadership
position at this point, and certainly not Speaker.


Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (/COnL)

Alexander of Greece? Meet Gordian Knot.


Yeah, guile is what was required.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 03, 2013 01:54 PM (bb5+k)

406 >>>"It's a good thing you have such a heroic self___, because to the rest of us you look like an immature, annoying little cockbite without enough ass to handle his weight in the comments section."

First - my ass is huge. Really big. Seriously.

Fact is, this kind of Republicanism, where you mostly hearken back to the 50's and 60's for your model of how to run a society, is dead.

We don't live there any more. Romney was a HUGE mistake. We told you - but the frat-con way dies hard. So be it. But die it must.

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at January 03, 2013 01:54 PM (cVYiZ)

407 Here is a nice 2010 vintage bottle of anti-freeze.


Cheers!!!

Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 01:54 PM (fWAjv)

408 Hollowpoint and JeffB, your posts reek of fear.

This Country is where it is now because of fear.

We need courage not more Byzantine foolishness.

Posted by: eman at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (EWsrI)

409 Come back to reality and let's do the hard work of fighting the upcoming debt limit talks. Stop listening to the loons.

You fight those debt limit talks buddy. Maybe you can get them cancelled.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (UyYYt)

410 Distributed Horde knowledge to the rescue! What brands should I look
for if I want decent quality but not too expensive tools for basic home
repair?

Craftsman. Lifetime guarantee.

Because you'll need it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (GFM2b)

411 Distributed Horde knowledge to the rescue! What brands should I look

for if I want decent quality but not too expensive tools for basic home

repair?


If you're going to Lowe's, and go there often, Kobalt will be just fine for the brand. That's their house brand.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (i2Lsf)

412 OT

Tiny Tim Geithner expected to step down as Treasury honcho at the end of Jan, before the debt limit talks.

RUN TIMMY, RUN!!!

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (GQ8sn)

413 "Cantor, McCarthy, Price and Ryan all voted for Boehner."

**

I'll vote for the black guy.

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (jvd3N)

414 But absolutely nothing in his record suggests to me that, even if he
were still in Congress, he would have any competence to hold a
leadership position at this point


You really don't have any idea what the job responsibilities of a O-5/6 are do you? Budget, personnel, delegation, legal, disciplinary, public relations etc. They have to be versed in ALL of it.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (hc3eM)

415 I'd rather have someone as Speaker who cares more about the country than winning re-election.

Unfortunately I think the number of people in DC that care about the country more than you and I care about Tonga or Uzbekistan is around -273 C.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (HZWnf)

416 Has there been any time in American history where politics in DC have been in such disarray? Or have the marxists already taken over and it's just the quibbling residue that's giving that impression?

Posted by: Soona at January 03, 2013 01:56 PM (+j9eE)

417 If your life is determined by comments on this blog, your priorities are odd.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:48 PM (KDq5l)



I agree with the statement, in general, but re: her initial comment, therein lies an issue; one of the many reasons why Romney lost.

Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 01:56 PM (LpQbZ)

418
Distributed Horde knowledge to the rescue! What brands should I look for if I want decent quality but not too expensive tools for basic home repair?

Get thee to Sears posthaste, My Queen, and secure thee a basic toolbox full of Craftsman goodies. They have a lifetime warranty and are decently priced. I have a lot of them. I've had to return quite a few Phillips screwdrivers, they all gave me a replacement with no paperwork on my part.

Kobalt tools from Lowe's would be my second choice, but they're kinda pricey. Nice, though. Heavy duty.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 01:56 PM (yiIja)

419 Ugh, now I have a headache. The circular firing squad is exhausting.

Quick, someone come to the rescue with some vapid celebrity news that we can all agree to mock, and mock HARD. Have Kim Kardashian and Kanye decided on a name for their spawn yet? And do they realize their initials are KKK?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (4df7R)

420 >>>You far righties realize how irrelevant you are yet?

Yes.

>>>Come back to reality and let's do the hard work of fighting the upcoming debt limit talks. Stop listening to the loons.

Absolutely.

I intend to advocate for as much spending as Obama wants. I have seen the light. The more the better and taxes too. 90% on the rich sounds great. Multipliers. Only government can create jobs. You have to spend money to stop going into debt. More spending, more taxes, more, more, faster, FASTER!, yes YES YES!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (0q2P7)

421
380A Speaker who himself has no skin in the game?


Not a single one has "skin in the game". They are expempt from the laws they pass to the last man and woman.

Posted by: Zombie Patsy Cline at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (b1VIZ)

422
I would say it’s about guile, craft, and bravery. At least West would have a minimum of one out of three.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2013 01:49 PM (QF8uk)


Sometimes the most clever thing you can do is to convince your enemies that you will not back down. (Ronald Reagan.)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (bb5+k)

423 Come back to reality and let's do the hard work of fighting the upcoming debt limit talks. Stop listening to the loons.
Posted by: sanity at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (RVjIg)

Ok, let's do this.

Oh, you mean we're going to follow Boehners lead on it.

Great

LIFB

Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (fWAjv)

424 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (QVmdM)

What are you, some kind of freak?

We aren't supposed to look at the actual results of Boehner's total clusterfuck of a term -- we are supposed to tear down other Republicans who would undoubtedly have done a better job.

Get with the fucking program.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (GsoHv)

425 Yeah, Boehner looks weaker, now.


I guess it was possible after all.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (ZKzrr)

426 Why is pelosi talking and why isn't she wearing a burka?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (79ueO)

427 Allen West is a brave man. I hope to see him return
to Congress. But absolutely nothing in his record suggests to me that,
even if he were still in Congress, he would have any competence to hold a
leadership position at this point, and certainly not Speaker.


Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 01:47 PM (/COnL)


And what in Boehner's record suggests competence?

Posted by: Tami at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (X6akg)

428 Has there been any time in American history where politics in DC have been in such disarray?
Posted by: Soona


1860?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (KDq5l)

429 Hey John Boner,

How's my ass taste?

Now you will blow me weekly....

As soon as I get back from vacation.

Barry

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (pUOpM)

430 Distributed Horde knowledge to the rescue! What brands should I
look for if I want decent quality but not too expensive tools for basic
home repair?

Get thee to Sears posthaste, My Queen, and
secure thee a basic toolbox full of Craftsman goodies. They have a
lifetime warranty and are decently priced. I have a lot of them. I've
had to return quite a few Phillips screwdrivers, they all gave me a
replacement with no paperwork on my part.

Kobalt tools from Lowe's would be my second choice, but they're kinda pricey. Nice, though. Heavy duty.



And no queen should be without a proper miter saw!

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (GQ8sn)

431

RUN TIMMY, RUN!!!


Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (GQ8sn)

I suppose you think thats funny huh??



http://tinyurl.com/by9q5bk

Posted by: Timmeh at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (jvd3N)

432 Has there been any time in American history where politics in DC have been in such disarray?
Posted by: Soona


Ya mean other than the Civil War?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (79ueO)

433 Never get Craftsman!!!!!

Posted by: That guy!!! at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (KXm42)

434 1860?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (KDq5l)

It wasn't this bad.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (l86i3)

435 Unfortunately I think the number of people in DC that care about the country more than you and I care about Tonga or Uzbekistan is around -273 C.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 03, 2013 01:55 PM (HZWnf)


Those Uzbeks make some damn fine yak jerky.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (4df7R)

436 Has there been any time in American history where politics in DC have been in such disarray?



I'm sure the answer to that is "yes". I think the unique problem of our time is the federal government has grown so obscenely large and intrusive.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (OW/Yj)

437 Olivia Munn in a maid's outfit. You are welcome.
http://youtu.be/ed1Ucnvn08s

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (fpSpD)

438 This is turning into a good ol' fashioned moron horde face-tearing, ear-biting fracas. Except for AtC who is innocently looking for tools.

Posted by: Heralder at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (+xmn4)

439 Boehner, just cry and give TFG what he wants now and save us the hand wringing. Get it over with quickly. It just pains me to see you weep and take it slow each time.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (0q2P7)

440
Not convinced he actually lost.

West had his district redrawn out from under him by the FL State GOP. They can't stand Tea Partiers.

Party of Stoopid, indeed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 02:00 PM (yiIja)

441 What the F is a "frat-con?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 02:00 PM (zF6Iw)

442 What in the fucking fuckery of fucks is Nancy Pelosi talking about right now?

Posted by: ElKomandante at January 03, 2013 02:01 PM (yUV0V)

443 Except for AtC who is innocently looking for tools.
Posted by: Heralder at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (+xmn4)



*Will. Not. Make. Lewd. Comment....*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:01 PM (4df7R)

444 It wasn't this bad.

True. Just half the country holding live fire excersises against the other half.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 02:01 PM (GFM2b)

445 As for Boehner looking weaker... in some ways, it's worse that he didn't have more opposition.

If he had, if he'd barely held on to the Speaker's gavel, he could go into future negotiations with the double weapons of "hey, I took on my own caucus and won" and "You can negotiate with me, or you'll end up negotiating with them."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 03, 2013 02:01 PM (5DR1j)

446 It wasn't this bad.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (l86i3)

Ask Vic...he was there.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 02:01 PM (GsoHv)

447 Two more years of the SOS!

Posted by: Redundant RINOs at January 03, 2013 02:01 PM (v9Cj5)

448
hey, now would be a good time to remind the people how stupid Tim Geithner is and how he was Obama's 2nd choice for Secretary of Treasury...

the crook embezzler Jon Corzine was Obama's 1st choice.

Posted by: October 2012 at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (jUytm)

449 :::424 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2013 01:53 PM (QVmdM)

What are you, some kind of freak?

We aren't supposed to look at the actual results of Boehner's total clusterfuck of a term -- we are supposed to tear down other Republicans who would undoubtedly have done a better job.

Get with the fucking program.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 01:57 PM (GsoHv):::

Nah, you don't really want that. I make a lousy employee.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (QVmdM)

450 By request, "Tears of a Clown" by Smokey!

Posted by: DC DJ traffic, news, & weather at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (I88Jc)

451 What the F is a "frat-con?"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 02:00 PM (zF6Iw)


I believe it's shorthand for "Good ole boy" republicans. Frat as in fraternity.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (4df7R)

452 AtC, Sybian, and a quest for tools. It's ToolTime I think.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (fpSpD)

453 Olivia Munn in a maid's outfit. You are welcome.
http://youtu.be/ed1Ucnvn08s



Thanks Anna!

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (GQ8sn)

454 And why the hell not?

We reelected that shitstain for president.

Why not continue with the limp dick as head of the congress.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (+OTLF)

455 Paul Weyrich-1999 via Hot Air:
But that did not result in the adoption of our agenda. The reason, I think, is that politics itself has failed. And politics has failed because of the collapse of the culture. The culture we are living in becomes an ever-wider sewer. In truth, I think we are caught up in a cultural collapse of historic proportions, a collapse so great that it simply overwhelms politics.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (wbmaj)

456 "You far righties realize how irrelevant you are yet?

Come back to reality and let's do the hard work of fighting the upcoming debt limit talks. Stop listening to the loons."

Hahaha, you fucking GOP bootlickers are a lost cause. Debt limit talks, hahaha.
Here's what your pragmatism got you:

$16,432,730,050,569.12, with the debt subject to the ceiling at the limit of $16.394 trillion
But really, these guys are all about smaller government and conservatism.



Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (3YN0H)

457 Except for AtC who is innocently looking for tools.

Snap-on tools?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (l86i3)

458 Oh, there was a revolution alright and the first to be put up against the wall and shot were the Republican voters.

Posted by: Ken in NH at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (9UEu0)

459 So Boner is back eh? I'm sure that'll end well, that guy just oozes politician/used car salesman sleaze, R's are going to get wiped out in 2014.

Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (HI6wa)

460 What's the difference between Boner and Custer? Custer knew which side he was on.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (qsvBF)

461 Boehner. our leader because no one else wants the job. Great, way to lead with our chins. Not even a faux fight, hell, at least make it look good for TV, a little suspense, get some eyeballs on the process. Won't even lead this media cycle.

Posted by: Jean at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (TdK8A)

462 *Will. Not. Make. Lewd. Comment....*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:01 PM (4df7R)

Chicken!

Hey AtC....make sure you get the 18-volt battery tools.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (GsoHv)

463 I once had a William Howard Taft lunchbox. It weighed seventy-five pounds.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows we have a kinder, gentler tyranny at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (Lxw+T)

464 Can Boehner just pass the gun ban and amnesty bills today and go home for the next 6 weeks?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (HDgX3)

465
What the F is a "frat-con?"


I think it's something some newbie lightweight came up with.

I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (KXm42)

466
Kobalt tools from Lowe's would be my second choice, but they're kinda pricey. Nice, though. Heavy duty.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 01:56 PM (yiIja)



See, I'm torn because the lifetime warranty for Craftsman is always a plus but on the other hand I have a Lowe's gift card with a decent amount of money on it. Hold on, lemme get Slayer.

Okay, on the third claw, I don't really need heavy duty tools, I need basic stuff. Anything that needs heavy duty tools will either be fixed by my apartment complex or I'll have the brother bring up his good tools to fix and/or help me fix. I shall continue to ponder.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (VtjlW)

467 >>>As for Boehner looking weaker... in some ways, it's worse that he didn't have more opposition.

I'm not following. Since when does Boehner play the strength of the hand that he has?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at January 03, 2013 02:04 PM (0q2P7)

468 Snap-on tools?
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 02:02 PM (l86i3)


*WILL. NOT. MAKE. OTHER. LEWD. COMMENT!*

Dammit, i want to sleep INSIDE in Alextopia, thank you very much!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:04 PM (4df7R)

469

As Michelle would say.

More Kabuki Theater.

Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 02:04 PM (LpQbZ)

470 325 Isn't rather obvious? It was all a creation of the Washington-based "Tea Party" (read: whoring for internet $$$-donations) groups like Americans for Majority Action, plus Breitbart and Redstate.

I had a feeling something was up when Matthew Boyle from Breitbart announced the meeting the way he did. The meeting never took place because it was never scheduled. Also, for all the Cantor rumors, he demonstrated today that he wants to wait until a more politically expedient time.

I don't doubt that they got someone like Tim Huelskamp (who can't get hit by a train soon enough) to chime in with some supportive-but-vague words, but that's really all it was.

The vainglorious Huelskamp undoubtedly had something to do with it and he will probably do the usual by granting an interview with MSNBC to discuss this. But the train comment crossed the line.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 02:04 PM (YjDyJ)

471 Except for AtC who is innocently looking for tools.

Snap-on tools?


As long as they'll snap on they Sybian.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 02:04 PM (GFM2b)

472 Snap-on tools?

Strap-on tools.

Yes, I went there. No, I have no shame.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (zF6Iw)

473
this is confusing

we wanted Boehner to lose the vote but we also wanted Bachmann and the rest of "truuuu conservatives" to vote for Boehner otherwise they'd be "crazy" and stupid and selfish??

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (jUytm)

474 And with that news, I have filed to have my party registration changed to "Unaffiliated."

Posted by: shillelagh at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (hRzu2)

475 As Michelle would say.

More Kabuki Theater.
Posted by: LiBeach at January 03, 2013 02:04 PM (LpQbZ)



Why does everyone keep misspelling bukkake?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (VtjlW)

476 people're acting like the only reason someone'd object to some of the alternatives being named is a) they want to be nice to the media and b) they're pussies.

OK if you think that, but it's kinda goofy. and it'd be good to have some perspective about your preferred guys' own flaws considering i don't think most of Boehner's "defenders" have claimed he's some genius tactician or w/e.

Posted by: JDP at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (60GaT)

477 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (VtjlW)

I spent 25years in various forms of Maintenance, from F-14's to Manufacturing, to facilities. I hold two cards, Pipefitter and Millwright. I have only used Craftsman.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (l86i3)

478 Can't go wrong with Craftsman, been a loyal fan for years from screwdrivers to lawnmowers, top notch.

Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:06 PM (HI6wa)

479 Hey AtC....make sure you get the 18-volt battery tools.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 02:03 PM (GsoHv)


---- Forget batteries and go for the Yamaha gas driven version

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 03, 2013 02:06 PM (R8hU8)

480 We need courage not more Byzantine foolishness.

Courage? Well why didn't you say so??? Our problems are now solved! Thanks, eman!

I had no idea that the life of a House Speaker was so incredibly brave and dangerous. Now I know. Courage. That's the ticket.

I propose the House pass a the "Courageous Courage of Bravery Act". That'll show 'em.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 02:06 PM (SY2Kh)

481 [Why does everyone keep misspelling bukkake?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (VtjlW)


It really is now, considering how the left just keeps repeatedly shooting their load all over the American people.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:06 PM (4df7R)

482 I'm not following. Since when does Boehner play the strength of the hand that he has?

Any time he can turn it against conservatives? If he'd barely held on, he could go to TFG and say, "Look, I'd love to work with you more, Mr. President McDreamyPantsCreases, but I've got all these thugs and neanderthals who'll kick my ass to the curb if I do too much. If you'll just throw me a bone every now and again, we can work together undisturbed."

And "a bone every now and again" in infinitely (or, at least a really, really big "finitely") better than what we've got now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 03, 2013 02:06 PM (5DR1j)

483 Cantor, McCarthy, Price and Ryan all voted for Boehner. The revolution...it never showed up.

Never bet on a politician to vote against his own self interest, pampered lifestyle, or position of power. They can always cash out, flee at the last minute, and seek asylum in another country when things turn to shit, while you and yours scrabble through the ashes trying to just survive.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at January 03, 2013 02:07 PM (L7hol)

484 478
Can't go wrong with Craftsman, been a loyal fan for years from screwdrivers to lawnmowers, top notch.


Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:06 PM (HI6wa)

____________
Proudly made by union workers!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 03, 2013 02:07 PM (HDgX3)

485
Hold on, lemme get Slayer.

IIRC, Kobalt also has a lifetime warranty. That might be your solution, My Queen.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 02:07 PM (yiIja)

486
So Boehner sucks and he must go.

But Michelle Bachmann not towing the party line and voting for Boehner means that she's no good.

Is that right?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2013 02:07 PM (jUytm)

487 Lowe's Kobalt sockets & wrenches have a lifetime warranty also.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 02:07 PM (GFM2b)

488 AtC, why do you need tools? Put on your stompy boots, go to Home Depot and some poor sap will follow you and do any thing you want.

Posted by: Jean at January 03, 2013 02:08 PM (TdK8A)

489 Why does everyone keep misspelling bukkake?Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (VtjlW)

And to think you guys were refraining from the lewd comments about her tools. Heh heh heh.

Posted by: Heralder at January 03, 2013 02:08 PM (+xmn4)

490 What brands should I look for if I want decent quality but not too expensive tools for basic home repair?

Look at pawn shops. These days there's a lot of good quality tools there at cheap prices. If you rummage through their bins of wrenches and sockets you'll find some Snap-On and S-K stuff.

I got an 18v Li-Ion Milwaukee combo set recently and I've been pleased with its performance so far. I used the Sawzall to drop a 8" diameter tree yesterday and it did it on less than one battery pack.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 02:08 PM (hc3eM)

491 486


So Boehner sucks and he must go.



But Michelle Bachmann not towing the party line and voting for Boehner means that she's no good.



Is that right?

______________________--


Dude,

THEY ARE ALL BAD.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 03, 2013 02:08 PM (HDgX3)

492 437
Olivia Munn in a maid's outfit. You are welcome.
http://youtu.be/ed1Ucnvn08s


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (fpSpD)

**Woah...where she come from...hubbahubba

Posted by: dananjcon at January 03, 2013 02:08 PM (jvd3N)

493 Third party time.

Posted by: TC at January 03, 2013 02:08 PM (vYB+W)

494
To understand this, Ace needs to compare this vote outcome to a roll on Dungeons & Dragons dice.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2013 02:09 PM (jUytm)

495 What brands should I look for if I want decent quality but not too expensive tools for basic home repair?

Every tool is different. It depends on the repair. But I'd say the basic requirements are:
Screwdriver: power, rechargeable, reversible. With both 'regular' and 'philips' head. Yeah, you can buy un-powered screwdrivers at a huge saving, but why screw something up at 10 mph when you can go 100 mph?
Wrenches: Full set - Sears might be good, but pricey. Only really big dudes can strip them, so you can probably do with cheaper.

I think, supposing you might be an estrogen-filled life unit with as-yet unsupported by taxpayer expendables, that the best strategery might be to buy on an 'as-needed' basis. If you ask the testosterone based life units at the store, they might be helpful, especially if much cleavage is available for perusal.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 03, 2013 02:09 PM (feFL6)

496 Hold on, lemme get Slayer.

I wonder, your highness, if you couldn't simply use your ravage of raptors to intimidate those of a tool-owning persuasion to fix whatever things might need fixing without you having to go to the added investment of buying tools of your own?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:09 PM (4df7R)

497 1860? Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2013 01:58 PM (KDq5l) It wasn't this bad.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 01:59 PM (l86i3)


----------------------------------------------------


I'm thinking the same thing. Even though there was a definite split in the national policy discourse, it was still debated openly. We're failing at open debate. Too much political correctness. I guess it's gotten so bad that politicians don't dare speak out for offending some special little group.

I really wish the repubs would realize that they have absolutely nothing to lose now. But I guess votes are more important than my country.

Posted by: Soona at January 03, 2013 02:09 PM (+j9eE)

498 I spent 25years in various forms of Maintenance, from F-14's to Manufacturing, to facilities. I hold two cards, Pipefitter and Millwright. I have only used Craftsman.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (l86i3)



Thus the thread was won.


Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual tools you perverts. I figure ratchet set, screwdrivers, basic wrench set, level and a hammer. I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes. So what am I missing?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (VtjlW)

499 TRANSCRIPT OF SPEAKER BOEHNER'S ACCEPTANCE SPEECH

SPEAKER BOEHNER: I jush want to thank you all for re-elec, re, making me speaker again. You're all the greatest friendsh a guy ever had. [Bursts into tears] And I really mean that!

Posted by: joncelli at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (RD7QR)

500 Courage is worth a try, Hollowpoint.

Take notes if you ever encounter it.

Posted by: eman at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (EWsrI)

501 Paul Weyrich 1999:
I believe that we probably have lost the culture war. That doesn't mean the war is not going to continue, and that it isn't going to be fought on other fronts. But in terms of society in general, we have lost. This is why, even when we win in politics, our victories fail to translate into the kind of policies we believe are important.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (wbmaj)

502 Once you go Snap On, (not blue point), you'll never go back to craftsman.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (GFM2b)

503 Work gloves and steel-toed stompy boots?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:11 PM (fpSpD)

504 484
478

Can't go wrong with Craftsman, been a loyal fan for years from screwdrivers to lawnmowers, top notch.




Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:06 PM (HI6wa)

____________
Proudly made by union workers!!


As long as they're not driving the company under or making the product unaffordable it doesn't matter to me. Snap On is union too, not going to stop using their boxes because of it.

Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:11 PM (HI6wa)

505 This segment brought to you by Harbor Fright Tools, Beijing, whose motto is, "fall on the edge of a freshly shattered wrench shaft, you round-eye imperialist!"

Posted by: DC DJ traffic, news, & weather at January 03, 2013 02:11 PM (I88Jc)

506
Third party time.


Nope. It's time for the Tea Party to quietly take over the GOP, just as the Communist Party took over the Dims over the past 15 years or so.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 02:12 PM (yiIja)

507 My position is that I will support the elected leader until he is no longer the leader. Today was the chance to remove Boehner. Apparently the members didn't want that. As captain Hate said above, Boehner should be criticized for not being able to get the votes for Plan B before he presented it but I fault the dissenters more. Especially since Boehner retains the leadership. If you are not going to follow the leader than vote him out. Don't weaken him during a warand thenkeep him as leader. That is treasonous.

I think West , Cantor, Paul , etc all would make decent Speakers. Just support the one you have until you don't.

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 02:12 PM (m2CN7)

508 You know when this fine country started going down hill.


When the womenfolk started using men's tools.

Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 02:12 PM (fWAjv)

509 Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual tools you perverts. I figure ratchet set, screwdrivers, basic wrench set, level and a hammer. I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes. So what am I missing?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (VtjlW)


Pliers, both needlenose and... whatever isn't the needlenose variety. They're ridiculously handy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:12 PM (4df7R)

510 Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual
tools you perverts. I figure ratchet set, screwdrivers, basic wrench
set, level and a hammer. I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless
drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes. So what am I missing?


Miter saw, my queen!!!

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:12 PM (GQ8sn)

511 West had his district redrawn out from under him by the FL State GOP. They can't stand Tea Partiers.

It wasn't the "FL State GOP". You could look it up but you won't, because only by some deep dark conspiracy by the Big Bad GOP Establishment could his holyness St. West Patron Saint of Conservatism have lost.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 02:12 PM (SY2Kh)

512 Did I mention that Olivia Munn in that video has pie?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:12 PM (fpSpD)

513 Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual tools you perverts. I figure ratchet set, screwdrivers, basic wrench set, level and a hammer. I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes. So what am I missing?

A flashlight, Imperial One. Also pencils and scraps of paper to assist with measurements.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2013 02:13 PM (zF6Iw)

514 This segment brought to you by Harbor Fright Tools, Beijing, whose motto is, "fall on the edge of a freshly shattered wrench shaft, you round-eye imperialist!"

Tool theme sub-thread winner!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 02:13 PM (GFM2b)

515 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 02:05 PM (l86i3)

Can I borrow your 24mm deep socket? My local hardware stores are all out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2013 02:13 PM (GsoHv)

516 Chris Christie and Candy Crawley. Twins separated at birth.
Porkers.

And yes, it is hilarious that Christie was played like a bass violin.

Posted by: ALH at January 03, 2013 02:13 PM (yAPdC)

517 Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I
will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your
daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product
from me.

Posted by: Bob's Tools at January 03, 2013 02:13 PM (KXm42)

518 My first paycheck just came in. My taxes went up over 1200 a year.

Fuck you Obama and boner

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 03, 2013 02:13 PM (EitjN)

519 :::Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual tools you perverts. I figure ratchet set, screwdrivers, basic wrench set, level and a hammer. I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes. So what am I missing?::;

Utility knife. Lenox Gold. Best I've ever owned.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2013 02:14 PM (QVmdM)

520 As long as they're not driving the company under or
making the product unaffordable it doesn't matter to me. Snap On is
union too, not going to stop using their boxes because of it.


Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:11 PM (HI6wa)

____________________________________________

Then don't complain that unions have too much power then.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 03, 2013 02:14 PM (HDgX3)

521 what should be in my basic toolbox
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (VtjlW)
14 or 16 oz hammer, 8 pc screwdriver set, 3 sizes of crescent wrench, needle nose pliers, channel lock, and about 25 pc socket set.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 03, 2013 02:14 PM (KwMW2)

522 And yes, it is hilarious that Christie was played like a bass violin.

No such thing as a bass violin. You meant a bass cello or what?

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:14 PM (GQ8sn)

523 No such thing as a bass violin. You meant a bass cello or what?
Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:14 PM (GQ8sn)


Christie is large enough that I think we could CREATE the term "bass violin" just for him.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:15 PM (4df7R)

524 So what am I missing?

Safety glasses.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 03, 2013 02:15 PM (ZKzrr)

525 Lineman pliers, needlenose pliers, wire cutters, perhaps even a small electrical rewiring kit with stripper/crimper so you too can have a Griswold Christmas.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:15 PM (fpSpD)

526 Christie is large enough that I think we could CREATE the term "bass violin" just for him.

Chris Christie...too big to fail.

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:15 PM (GQ8sn)

527
Nope. It's time for the Tea Party to quietly
take over the GOP, just as the Communist Party took over the Dims over
the past 15 years or so.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 02:12 PM

No, the GOP is as bad as the Dems. If the tea party takes over the GOP you still have a marketing problem. Distance from both parties as well as DC is what is needed.

Posted by: TC at January 03, 2013 02:15 PM (vYB+W)

528
Then don't complain that unions have too much power then.

If they're hurting a company i'll complain all i want.

Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:15 PM (HI6wa)

529 Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual tools you perverts. I figure ratchet set, screwdrivers, basic wrench set, level and a hammer. I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes. So what am I missing?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (VtjlW)

A laser level.

Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 02:16 PM (fWAjv)

530 I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless
drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes.


Three 20 foot measuring tapes? Who do you hang out with? Crap, I'm done. I thought my foot long dong was impressive.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 03, 2013 02:16 PM (feFL6)

531 No such thing as a bass violin. You meant a bass cello or what?

The big one.

Posted by: ALH at January 03, 2013 02:16 PM (yAPdC)

532 Don't forget the duct tape!

And band aids!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at January 03, 2013 02:16 PM (i2Lsf)

533
524So what am I missing?


Duct tape.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 02:16 PM (b1VIZ)

534 Okay, on the third claw, I don't really need heavy duty tools, I need basic stuff. Anything that needs heavy duty tools will either be fixed by my apartment complex or I'll have the brother bring up his good tools to fix and/or help me fix. I shall continue to ponder.

You always need a sawzall. Always.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 03, 2013 02:17 PM (3x3F6)

535 Part of my LIB strategy is to try my best and not buy anything American made anymore. Never shall a Big 3 vehicle see my driveway. That's an easy one. I will be buying a laptop soon, it will be a Toshiba or Lenovo. No Dells for me anymore. And so forth.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 03, 2013 02:17 PM (HDgX3)

536 Duct tape.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 02:16 PM (b1VIZ)


That should read, "The handyman's secret weapon, duct tape."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:17 PM (4df7R)

537 Also:

-circular saw
-pneumatic nail gun
-heavy duty stapling gun
-power sprayer

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:17 PM (GQ8sn)

538 ChannelLock barbed wire fence pliers. Can be used as pliers, hammer, wire cutters, and the pointed end for pulling staples can be driven deep into a skull, if need be. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 02:17 PM (GFM2b)

539 Allen Wrench!

Posted by: Bob's Tools at January 03, 2013 02:17 PM (KXm42)

540 528

Then don't complain that unions have too much power then.

If they're hurting a company i'll complain all i want.


Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:15 PM (HI6wa)

____________
I mean unions in general. When you buy union made products you indirectly give money to the Democrat party.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 03, 2013 02:18 PM (HDgX3)

541 Courage is worth a try, Hollowpoint.



Take notes if you ever encounter it.


You bet. If ever my truck breaks down, I will think courageous thoughts until it fixes itself. Thanks again, eman, for yet another typically thoughtful comment!

You may have single-handedly saved the republic. Just apply courage, and our dreams come true. So simple, yet only through your genius has that fact come to life.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2013 02:18 PM (SY2Kh)

542
So what am I missing?

A couple of different sized pipe wrenches, two strap wrenches of different sizes, a mixed pack of sandpaper, superglue, some screwdriver tips for your power drill, some twist drills, hand files, and a hacksaw and combo pack of blades.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 02:18 PM (yiIja)

543 I will be buying a laptop soon, it will be a Toshiba or Lenovo. No Dells for me anymore. And so forth.

Doesn't really matter which you end up buying. All those parts are made in Taiwan, Malaysia, China, South Korea, or the Philipines.

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (GQ8sn)

544 So what am I missing?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (VtjlW)

Assuming you have a variety of bits for the screwdriver/drill?

Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (fWAjv)

545 Gotta run, check y'all later...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (yiIja)

546 Dremel power saw. I want one of those.

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (m2CN7)

547 -circular saw-pneumatic nail gun-heavy duty stapling gun-power sprayer
Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:17 PM (GQ8sn)


I think those might be a little more heavy duty than AtC actually needs for her purposes of light home repair. Though a staple gun may be useful for projects around the house.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (4df7R)

548 Butter knife.

Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (KXm42)

549 A 5lb mini-sledge hammer and cold chisel, and a hacksaw with a variety of blades.

When you face some rusted nut/bolt that doesn't want to come off, their "negotiating skills" are compelling.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (hc3eM)

550
So what am I missing?


Bibb overalls. The Daisy Duke leg cut variety.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 02:20 PM (b1VIZ)

551 There's a reason Home Depot sells ALL of those tools. You will need them.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 02:20 PM (GFM2b)

552 Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual tools you perverts. I figure ratchet set, screwdrivers, basic wrench set, level and a hammer. I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes. So what am I missing?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (VtjlW)


It really depends on what you are doing, A mechanics set is different from a home repair set. What I would do is buy my tools as needed for the job you are doing. Don't be afraid to spend money on the good stuff. You may see a 29.99 circular saw all the way up to 140.00. Hold them, shake them, does the handle feel plastic, hollow and cheap? Or is it solid. Another thing, people like to use pliers on bolts and #1 Phillips tip on a #2 screw. Don't. Always use the correct fitting tool, if you don't have it go get it. Don't be afraid to read, research and plan every job from beginning to end. Every job gets fucked up at least a tiny bit, that's why not everyone does it. It never goes as planned. Stop assess and do it right. No shortcuts. It takes practice and patience. Mostly Patience. You will do fine.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 02:21 PM (l86i3)

553 Butter knife.
Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (KXm42)


Ah, yes. Butter knife. A screwdriver when no screwdriver can be found. A hammer when no regular hammer is needed. A level when there is no level within reach.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:21 PM (4df7R)

554 I think those might be a little more heavy duty than AtC actually needs
for her purposes of light home repair. Though a staple gun may be useful
for projects around the house.


All those are useful when completing her in-home underground dungeon/well.

"It puts the stompy boots on or it gets the hose again!"

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:21 PM (GQ8sn)

555
Queen Mistress of Yon Stompyhood, comsider the acquisition of a functional stud-finder. If you live in an apartment and want to hang your own pictures and thy royallooking glass, you will find this tool indispensible, as many apartments bear crappy sheetrock walls that turn to powder over time.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 03, 2013 02:21 PM (r5w1L)

556 I'm typing on a cheap Toshiba C655-S5514. It became a lot more usable when I fitted a USB keyboard and wireless real mouse.

Laptop keyboards and touch pads blow dogs.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 02:22 PM (hc3eM)

557 Bibb overalls. The Daisy Duke leg cut variety.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 03, 2013 02:20 PM (b1VIZ)

You were supposed to say 'shop apron and nothing else' there.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 03, 2013 02:22 PM (KwMW2)

558 Gosh, Hollowpoint.

Such a pretty wit.

Posted by: eman at January 03, 2013 02:22 PM (EWsrI)

559 I think those might be a little more heavy duty than AtC actually needs for her purposes of light home repair. Though a staple gun may be useful for projects around the house.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (4df7R)

With all the tool suggestions coming in I figured she has started the frame out for Alextopia.

Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2013 02:22 PM (fWAjv)

560 Courage is worth a try, Hollowpoint. Take notes if you ever encounter it.
Posted by: eman at January 03, 2013 02:10 PM (EWsrI)


-------------------------------------------------


Amen. Actually, Hollowpoint doesn't like anybody, not even himself.

Posted by: Soona at January 03, 2013 02:23 PM (+j9eE)

561 Queen Mistress of Yon Stompyhood, comsider the acquisition of a functional stud-finder. If you live in an apartment and want to hang your own pictures and thy royallooking glass, you will find this tool indispensible, as many apartments bear crappy sheetrock walls that turn to powder over time.
Posted by: spongeworthy at January 03, 2013 02:21 PM (r5w1L)



Or you could hold it over your head let it lead you to the door of the nearest good-looking guy with a toolset, cuz STUD finder.

BA-DA-BING! I'll be here all week, folks!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:23 PM (4df7R)

562 The one and only thing you need AtC to fix anything of course is:

ONE LARGE ROLL OF DUCT TAPE

Posted by: polynikes at January 03, 2013 02:23 PM (m2CN7)

563 You were supposed to say 'shop apron and nothing else' there.

Tool belt and nothin' else!

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:23 PM (GQ8sn)

564 Don't be afraid to read, research and plan every job from beginning to end. Every job gets fucked up at least a tiny bit, that's why not everyone does it. It never goes as planned. Stop assess and do it right. No shortcuts. It takes practice and patience. Mostly Patience. You will do fine.

Measure twice, cut once.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2013 02:23 PM (GFM2b)

565 "It puts the stompy boots on or it gets the hose again!"
Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:21 PM (GQ8sn)


This is why I love this place.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:24 PM (4df7R)

566 531
No such thing as a bass violin. You meant a bass cello or what?

The big one.


Posted by: ALH at January 03, 2013 02:16 PM (yAPdC)

Double Bass

Posted by: JarvisW at January 03, 2013 02:24 PM (E7Iyp)

567 ONE LARGE ROLL OF DUCT TAPE

Don't forget the WD-40.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 03, 2013 02:24 PM (3x3F6)

568 A 5lb mini-sledge hammer and cold chisel, and a hacksaw with a variety of blades.When you face some rusted nut/bolt that doesn't want to come off, their "negotiating skills" are compelling.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 02:19 PM (hc3eM)


----------------------------------------------------


Might as well get a diamond cutting disc too.

Posted by: Soona at January 03, 2013 02:25 PM (+j9eE)

569 OSP re Tomcats. Avionics or structure or powerplant?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:25 PM (fpSpD)

570 I wonder, your highness, if you couldn't simply use your ravage of raptors to intimidate those of a tool-owning persuasion to fix whatever things might need fixing without you having to go to the added investment of buying tools of your own?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 03, 2013 02:09 PM (4df7R)



I kind of want to strap tool holders over Chompy and then load them up with drills and whatnot. Just because I can.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:25 PM (VtjlW)

571 Always use the correct fitting tool, if you don't have it go get it.

Remember: any tool can be the right tool.
*swings pickaxe at headlights*

Posted by: RedGreen Radish at January 03, 2013 02:26 PM (ZKzrr)

572 Polly gets the tactical chest vest with dual flamethrowers?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:26 PM (fpSpD)

573 The best set of tools is the one owned by your neighbor.

Posted by: eman at January 03, 2013 02:27 PM (EWsrI)

574 Basically, start small and buy as needed. Avoid Harbor Freight power tools no matter how cheap they seem. A step up that is usually adequate for occasional use is the Black and Decker stuff.

I have an old B and D 14v Sawzall that has outlasted a half dozen batteries. The plunge shaft is getting a little wobbly and the rubber grips are worn out, but it keeps running and it was severely abused on some commercial jobs some years ago

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 02:27 PM (hc3eM)

575 West had his district redrawn out from under him by the FL State GOP. They can't stand Tea Partiers.

actually West was given an even more GOP friendly district then he ran for in 2010. that said an R+1 district is still a rough district to win especially when that area saw a big Dem turnout that helped O barely win in FL. He lost an extremely close and controversial election in a swing-like distrcit. He can win in 2014 if the GOP has another 2010 like year happen. or he could pull a Grayson and go into a much more partisan area of the state.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 03, 2013 02:28 PM (yAor6)

576 The best set of tools is the one owned by your neighbor.

Or the one that your teenage son used and never gave back.

Posted by: EC at January 03, 2013 02:28 PM (GQ8sn)

577 Needle nosed pliers

Posted by: Museisluse at January 03, 2013 02:29 PM (Yzrs8)

578 Polly gets the tactical chest vest with dual flamethrowers?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:26 PM (fpSpD)



But of course!


RE: Duct tape. Boy BFF's wife is a way high muckety muck at Wal-mart. She gets so so so pissed when he and I start in on the whole yay Wal-mart! Where else can you buy duct tape, a shovel, plastic tarps and lye at 3 in the morning?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:29 PM (VtjlW)

579 @McCormackJohn The people who made up the story that Boehner would resign/lose the vote today will be punished with more cable TV hits

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 02:30 PM (YjDyJ)

580 [i/Queen Mistress of Yon Stompyhood, comsider the acquisition of a functional stud-finder.

I don't think there is a more useless item then a stud finder. I use tiny finishing nails, and nail them one inch apart until I find the stud. Then hang the picture over my 'search history' and wait until I repaint the house to repair the damage.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 03, 2013 02:30 PM (feFL6)

581
OSP re Tomcats. Avionics or structure or powerplant?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:25 PM (fpSpD)

Avionics, O level.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 02:30 PM (l86i3)

582
The best set of tools is the one owned by your neighbor.


Yea, but the shrewd neighbor with all the tools has two sets. The good stuff, for them, and the junk, for you.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 02:30 PM (hc3eM)

583 I mean unions in general. When you buy union made products you indirectly give money to the Democrat party.

I'm sure some of my money that i spend on every product ends up going to democrats one way or another, union or not, once that cash leaves my wallet whoever ends up with it can do what they want with it, gotta let the free market work eventually.

Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:31 PM (HI6wa)

584 Yea, but the shrewd neighbor with all the tools has two sets. The good stuff, for them, and the junk, for you.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 02:30 PM (hc3eM)

I will do the job for you before I loan a tool.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at January 03, 2013 02:31 PM (l86i3)

585 AWG-9 or APG-70 birds? Or both?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2013 02:32 PM (fpSpD)

586 actually West was given an even more GOP friendly
district then he ran for in 2010. that said an R+1 district is still a
rough district to win especially when that area saw a big Dem turnout
that helped O barely win in FL. He lost an extremely close and
controversial election in a swing-like distrcit. He can win in 2014 if
the GOP has another 2010 like year happen. or he could pull a Grayson
and go into a much more partisan area of the state.


Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 03, 2013 02:28 PM (yAor6)

_______________
So many people refuse to understand that mid-term and presidential elections are apples and oranges. Had West run in his 2010 district in 2008 he would have lost. It wasn't the new district that caused him to lose, it was the fact that Obama got his FSA members out to vote en masse.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 03, 2013 02:33 PM (HDgX3)

587 New thread up btw

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 03, 2013 02:34 PM (VtjlW)

588 he could pull a Grayson and go into a much more partisan area of the state.


Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 03, 2013 02:28 PM (yAor6)


Grayson holding an elective office is extremely disturbing to any reasonable concept of right and wrong.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny 2013 return tour?) at January 03, 2013 02:34 PM (OW/Yj)

589 "So many people refuse to understand that mid-term and presidential elections are apples and oranges."

yep. for the past 20 years the usual turnout has been fav to GOPers in midterms and fav to Dems in Prez elections

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 03, 2013 02:34 PM (yAor6)

590 I'm sure some of my money that i spend on every
product ends up going to democrats one way or another, union or not,
once that cash leaves my wallet whoever ends up with it can do what they
want with it, gotta let the free market work eventually.


Posted by: booger at January 03, 2013 02:31 PM (HI6wa)

_____________
Fair enough. Just with unions you know 100% that some of your money is going to Democrats. With non-union products, the chance is less than 100%. In the long run the expected amount of money going to Dems is less when you purchase non-union products than when you purchase union products.
Best thing to do is buy foreign products. Then the chance is close to 0%. I say close to 0% and not 0% because of course we know Obama gets lots o' money from overseas as well.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 03, 2013 02:35 PM (HDgX3)

591 I don't think there is a more useless item then a stud finder.

I've got some extremely powerful magnets I culled from dead disk drives. I just wave them around until they latch onto a sheetrock screw/nail or steel stud. The strongest of them will latch onto a steel stud behind 1/2" of sheetrock and stay stuck to the wall without sliding.

Posted by: @PurpAv at January 03, 2013 02:35 PM (hc3eM)

592 "Grayson holding an elective office is extremely disturbing to any reasonable concept of right and wrong."

this is very true

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, El Patron at January 03, 2013 02:35 PM (yAor6)

593 498 Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual tools you perverts.

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One thing I miss that you can't get anymore is a Polaroid iZone camera. It was sold as a kid's toy; it took small (2" square?) Polaroid photos, each of which had sticky stuff on the back. It was invaluable when I was fiddling with my VW Beetle: going to take something apart? snap a pic, wait for it to develop, stick it to the fender, take bits apart until I started to get confused again, take another pic, etc.

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at January 03, 2013 02:35 PM (IrbU4)

594 @freddoso Another note: The model for fighting your party's leaders is Jeff Flake, not Walter Jones. Flake was all alone, and he got results.

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 03, 2013 02:38 PM (YjDyJ)

595 We all think that Presdent Obama should have appointed Joe Biden as the Speaker of the House. He solved the "Fiscal Cliff" problem, not Boehnor.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Obamaboro, Vt and Proud of it !!!!!!!!!! at January 03, 2013 02:38 PM (48wze)

596 81 Lulz!!! Every one at work here is freaking out after seeing their pay stubs. My Shadenboner is only tempered that my pay stub is just as dismal.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 03, 2013 01:01 PM (jvd3N)

Gosh, I guess those Bush tax cuts affected more people than just 'the rich', huh.

Dumbfucks. I can't wait for my stupid-ass neighbor to wonder why his paycheck is less (SS payroll tax is back to normal). Of course, I'm sure he'll blame Republicans somehow.

We are well and truly fucked. All I can really say is that we cannot let them take our weapons.

Posted by: blindside at January 03, 2013 02:51 PM (x7g7t)

597
Commenting on Bachmann above I was wrong about House practice: The majority is of those 'named' by the sum of voters, not including those 'Present'.
So Michele cast the deciding vote as 218.

Posted by: gary gulrud at January 03, 2013 02:53 PM (uv0Aw)

598 I'd like a dis-vention please.

Posted by: DaveA at January 03, 2013 02:53 PM (zPLX9)

599 So, socons are out, ficons are out, who do we have left?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 03, 2013 02:55 PM (YZizW)

600 Among the many and varied offenses of Barack Obama, why did he hate Honduras so much?
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They enforced their laws against their executive. You can see why he wouldn't want that idea floating around.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at January 03, 2013 03:01 PM (YZizW)

601 >>>The vainglorious Huelskamp undoubtedly had something to do with it and
he will probably do the usual by granting an interview with MSNBC to
discuss this. But the train comment crossed the line.


You're right about that. It did cross the line. I need to find a less 'terminal' misfortune to befall someone like Huelskamp. Let's say, "slipping on a banana peel and falling face first into a pool full of liquified feces."

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 03, 2013 03:07 PM (/COnL)

602
Next step: what should be in my basic toolbox and yes I mean actual
tools you perverts. I figure ratchet set, screwdrivers, basic wrench
set, level and a hammer. I have a cordless screwdriver and a cordless
drill and like three 20 foot measuring tapes. So what am I missing?


A playboy calendar 25 years out of date, a broken open end adjustable wrench, half a pack of smokes, two already scratched lotto tickets, a rusty pocket knife, hack saw blades, two or three rolls of black plastic electrical tape, a multi meter...and spare batteries...a half read book that was popular ten or so years ago...smeared with grease, and oil, of course, a used oil filter, a prized kitchen knife...scratched, and bent almost unrecognizably out of shape, that your wife/hubby thinks was lost 'in the trash', three or four mostly empty disposable butane lighter, at least a dozen loose drill bits, two or three rusty broken tools you don't even know the names of, a couple of handfuls of loose nuts and bolts, cotter pins, shear pins, a brake tool that doesn't fit any car you currently own, several loose spark plugs, bits of wire, an old black plastic comb, your first cell phone, some loose change, and a couple bottle caps, or pull tabs from your favorite brand of beer.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at January 03, 2013 03:10 PM (L7hol)

603 "Know who Allen West is? A former one-term House rep who lost re-election. "


Unless he got re-elected or died, he is not a FORMER one-term House rep who lost re-election.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at January 03, 2013 03:18 PM (3GtyG)

604 "Has John "Happy Hour" Boehner started crying yet?"

Yes.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at January 03, 2013 03:19 PM (3GtyG)

605 600
Don't forget that Honduras was one of the nations that forced the elections in Nicaragua (in return for closing Honduran Contra bases) that resulted in lefty dreamboat Daniel Ortega's defeat.

Posted by: Enby at January 03, 2013 03:29 PM (ptlfZ)

606 Bachman is great. Where is it carved in stone that Republicans must have a moderate as their leader? Are Pelosi and Reid "centrist" Democrats? Rhetorical question, there is no such thing as a centrist Democrat anymore. But the democrqts have NO compunction about having their most partisan members as their leaders. If moderate Republicans are going to get the blame anytime the poor precious Democrats don't get their way, why not have a real pain in the rear person speaking for our side?

Posted by: RM at January 03, 2013 03:50 PM (TRsME)

607 And I should vote GOP why exactly?

Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at January 03, 2013 04:20 PM (T/L2Z)

608 And the hits just keep ooooonnnnnnnn coming!

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at January 03, 2013 04:35 PM (F3Ima)

609 #23 wrote "Beavis -- or at least Butthead -- for speaker. How could they do any worse?"

Who the hell do you think we have in there already? It's just a matter of which side is Beavis and which side is Butthead.

Posted by: jim at January 03, 2013 05:13 PM (VwhRo)

610 At some point someone is going to write a biography about Boehner, which I will systematically ignore... but I *will* ask someone:

Was he actually as stupid as he seemed, or
Was he just another filthy political pig, gorging him self at the trough?

"Both," of course will be a perfectly plausible answer.

Consider: he gets re-elected, out come the Tammy Faye Baker tears again, and he says:

"Time to secure for our children a future of freedom and opportunity..."

This is not 24 hours after he saddled those very same children with a CBO-estimated $3.9T in additional debt. What happened yesterday might be, in retrospect, the straw that breaks the fiscal-camel's back. It guarantees a $20T debt, presuming the markets will let that happen.

How any intelligent and non-evil person can reconcile those two facts is beyond me. In fact, it's not just beyond me: it's impossible. The two cannot be reconciled.

Which leaves me with my initial conundrum:
Ishe stupid, evil, or both?

Posted by: RobM1981 at January 03, 2013 05:27 PM (4WC+3)

611 That makes it official, I quit the Republican party! let it burn, let it all burn!

Posted by: Andrew at January 03, 2013 06:52 PM (HS3dy)

612 I have never understood those who think Forrest Gump is an uplifting movie.
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Forrest Gump is an evil movie.

The number of people who don't see how nasty it is shows that you don't have to be very sneaky at all to get stuff past people. The theory that Hollywood can't be influencing people for the worse because there are no suckers to be influenced is without foundation.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at January 03, 2013 08:18 PM (Zr078)

613 586 So many people refuse to understand that mid-term and presidential elections are apples and oranges. Had West run in his 2010 district in 2008 he would have lost. It wasn't the new district that caused him to lose, it was the fact that Obama got his FSA members out to vote en masse.
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Right.

In 2014 a lot of people are going to take false comfort from improved Republican results. It won't mean demography and race have stopped moving the electoral playing field to the left, inexorably, by a point or two each electoral cycle. It will just be a different situation, the mid-term of a second-term President, with a different usual result.

Posted by: Chromoly Man at January 03, 2013 09:29 PM (Zr078)






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