Celebrities Who Demand Gun Bans Sure Seem To Celebrate Gun Violence In Their Movies A Whole Heck of a Lot

Hypocrisy?

I saw this video last week but wasn't sure what to make of it. The short film here, ridiculing celebrities for pronouncing on gun control while romanticizing gun violence in movies, seemed to be making the same mistake the celebrities were.

That problem is precrime.

I think our society -- any society -- goes off the rails badly when it stops criminalizing criminal acts and instead dabbles in a precrime regime, seeking to criminalize non-blameworthy behavior on the theory that such behavior, while not harmful to others directly, is indirectly harmful, or is a "root cause" of the ultimately blameworthy behavior.

Making murder by gun a crime is perfectly reasonable. So is making it an extra felony to carry a gun during the commission of a crime.

But actually just owning a gun?

The theory these Big Thinkers work under is that "the crime couldn't happen but for the gun," so they want to eliminate the gun, and not just remove it from the criminal's hand, but to remove it generally, from existence.

But this is a horrible response for two reasons: First, criminals are defined as ignoring the law generally so they really don't care if you make a gun illegal. In the case of the Newtown shooter, the criminal was not deterred by the law that you are forbidden to murder your mother and steal her guns, for example.

Second: And in your attempt to make it slightly more difficult for a small pool of persons to get a gun, you're taking away guns -- and basic rights -- from millions and millions of law-abiding Americans.

People often criticize Hollywood, too, for celebrating gun violence -- and thus, the theory goes, making it more likely that some lonely, unloved loser will see The Gun (capital letters intended) as a totem, as a Symbol, as a vehicle for giving him power over others which he doesn't otherwise have.

That's actually... true. And yet I still flinch from the idea of taking away another Amendment right (the first, of course) simply because of the indirect and tenuous link that violent, gun-crazy movies might have on a violent, gun-crazy viewer.

Some things may in fact be indirect contributing factors to an ultimate harm, but we do not generally criminalize indirect contributing factors for a simple reason: Virtually everything we do that is not useful work, sex for reproductive purposes, childraising, and church-going is an indirect contributing factor to some social or criminal evil.

Alcohol causes a great deal of violence and death that probably wouldn't happen in its absence -- drunk driving deaths, the hand that balls into a fist and strikes the head in a flare of vodka-fueled anger, the gun that sneaks out from a pocket in an inebriated fury.

Shall we ban that?

No. All these things are PreCrime.

There is a sad fact that most people don't seem to appreciate, or wish to even credit as a fact: Most heinous crimes are punished retrospectively, after the carnage. Only a minority are stopped beforehand, and that can only happen if the criminal (or would-be) criminal is under intense surveillance before his intended crime. An intense surveillance our society has not yet -- thankfully -- extended beyond a few thousand known terrorists or known mafiosi.

So people start dreaming up ways in which we could have avoided the carnage -- they start thinking Precrime. If we just had criminalized this or that behavior...

So as I thought about it more I started thinking this video was in fact fair, and not a mistake. If these celebrities want to install Precrime laws criminalizing otherwise-lawful activities on the notion that We Must Do Everything Possible to stop all contributing factors to killings... They should take a look at themselves.

They certainly have done an awful lot of PR work for the Gun as Totem Bestowing Power on the Impotent. They've depicted the gun -- unrealistically, fantastically -- as a Magic Wand that grants its owner the heroic ability to Win and Impose His Will on Any Situation.

And that belief is just as necessary to the mass killing of six year old children as the gun itself. Normal people do not murder 20 children.

It wasn't only the gun that was needed for this killing; it was also the psychological state of believing in The Gun as an agent of Power and Deliverance.

And that came from Hollywood.

Now I wouldn't indulge in either of these awful and stupid precrime measures. I would not repeal the First Amendment just as I wouldn't repeal the Second.

But if Hollywood's calling for one precrime prohibition, it is duty-bound to call for the other as well.

After all -- the children. The children that they were responsible for killing.

Posted by: Ace at 03:27 PM



Comments

1 So basically after thinking about it for a week you have arrived at the same place LaPierre was a week and a half ago.

Posted by: tennvols87 at December 31, 2012 03:31 PM (kQl8p)

2 Sorry I've disappointed you. You in the interim have written thought pieces on this that I can read, yes?

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:32 PM (LCRYB)

3 No, but I didn't make a public spectacle of berating the man either. You didn't disappoint me I expect very little of the frat cons. You should at least acknowledge you were wrong though. He did a brave thing and you stabbed him in the back only to decide wait he was right after all.

Posted by: tennvols87 at December 31, 2012 03:33 PM (kQl8p)

4 Perhaps celebrities oppose guns as a way to assuage their own sub-concious guilt for promoting gun violence on the screen.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 31, 2012 03:33 PM (4Mv1T)

5
Now I wouldn't indulge in either of these awful and stupid precrime
measures. I would not repeal the First Amendment just as I wouldn't
repeal the Second.

But if Hollywood's calling for one precrime prohibition, it is duty-bound to call for the other as well.

Now, now. We're not suggesting the 1st Amendment be repealed. Only that we have a national discussion regarding reasonable, common sense media control measures.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 03:33 PM (SY2Kh)

6 by the way, Joker, I was on vacation when LaPierre spoke.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:33 PM (LCRYB)

7 Goddam hypocrites. When do we start drinking?

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 03:33 PM (DrC22)

8 Well, it isn't a good faith thing these people are doing.


They are attempting to deceive the populace into disarming itself for the sake of the Leftist's revolution.


It's not yet gotten through to any of us, yet, just how deep the betrayal runs. It was barely tolerable before, when we thought they were just incapable of simple mathematics.


We, as a whole, ought to understand by now that this is an actively malicious movement, these perpetual Leftist outrages, and that these people are intent on setting us up for failure, and subjugation.


o.O It's a scary thought but it's true.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 31, 2012 03:34 PM (pcaFm)

9 Gotta find that song.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at December 31, 2012 03:34 PM (ZETiK)

10 Ace,
I appreciate the way you look at, and explain the conclusion that you arrived at.
just one of the reasons that I come here.
well.....that and pointy elbow photos.

Posted by: VIA, on the tiny keyboard at December 31, 2012 03:34 PM (mbtQA)

11 You are right. Mea culpa I forgot that multiple people post here. Completely my bad.

Posted by: tennvols87 at December 31, 2012 03:35 PM (kQl8p)

12 >>>No, but I didn't make a public spectacle of berating the man either. You didn't disappoint me I expect very little of the frat cons. You should at least acknowledge you were wrong though. He did a brave thing and you stabbed him in the back only to decide wait he was right after all.

you're a right cunt.

I have never written about LaPierre, asshole.

As I said, was on vacation.

I'm sorry that I don't live up to your Righteous Standards by which you Know things, through FEELINGS and principles and what your Thought Heroes tell you.

See, I have to think about things for myself. I'm not as slavish to the word of my superiors as you.



Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:35 PM (LCRYB)

13 The liberal mental state in a nutshell.

Owning guns is bad. Owning condoms is good.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 03:36 PM (fx1PU)

14 Was going to wait to take the concealed carry course till all the dust settled. Screw 'em. Why wait?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 31, 2012 03:36 PM (4Mv1T)

15 Folks with armed gaurds chastising the rest of us. They can all GFT.

The hipocracy of Fictional Charectors using guns to settle disputes are seen as just that, fiction and entertainmeny. They will never see their own folly.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 31, 2012 03:36 PM (l86i3)

16 Just wait until I blow away a 5-year-old for cutting in on Mr Moore at the buffet line.

Posted by: michael moore's bodyguard at December 31, 2012 03:36 PM (jPVBi)

17 Kinley Ardal you are in my head today. You are exactly right.

Posted by: small town girl at December 31, 2012 03:36 PM (p74mI)

18 "frat cons." Huh.

What a trembling little Puritan zealot you are.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:37 PM (LCRYB)

19 I don't want to ban any movies with guns. I just want to ridicule the fuckers that make the movies with guns. Ridicule works. The left does it well. We don't. We try to appeal to reason. We need less reason and more ridicule.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 03:37 PM (HDgX3)

20 Shit man, I'm drunk 50% of the time and even I knew Ace was gone last week.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 31, 2012 03:37 PM (ZOf1l)

21 Humm. Ace seems to be able to see things from the "gun dick stroker" angle these days.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 03:37 PM (OlN4e)

22

These Hollywood Hypocrites have made million$ off of portraying gun violence.
...And they have the unmittigated gaul to now come out and condemn gun ownership?

Posted by: wheatie at December 31, 2012 03:38 PM (K4wCe)

23 By the way, has Jeremy Reiner made a movie that did not include him firing guns or weapons?

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 31, 2012 03:38 PM (UypUQ)

24 I'm past intellectual honesty on this one. Attack and blame Hollywood for gun violence each and every time they attack gun owners.

Attack attack attack. Blame blame blame. That's how they win. That's how we need to respond.

Oh, and technically DUI is a pre-crime.

Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 03:38 PM (HzhBE)

25 Of course banning guns makes no sense as a means of stopping gun crime. Ask any Leftard how banning drugs has worked out.

The impulse to control guns comes from an entirely different place. That is, an unarmed population is a population that can be pushed around by its government.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 03:38 PM (QKKT0)

26 I just love Ace's movie reviews.

Posted by: johnd01 at December 31, 2012 03:38 PM (ukNFU)

27 >>>21 Humm. Ace seems to be able to see things from the "gun dick stroker" angle these days.

I am, I'm a convert to 90% of it.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:38 PM (LCRYB)

28 >>>unmittigated gaul...

You rang?

Posted by: The French at December 31, 2012 03:38 PM (O7Q1u)

29 Yep, standards are puritanism. That's the logic that leads to Sandra Fluke becoming a political issue.

Posted by: tennvols87 at December 31, 2012 03:39 PM (kQl8p)

30
shorter for me is to say.
Media 3 mths ago- !!The left went berzerk at the mention that an obscure video guy caused Personally the attack on Benghazi resulting in the murder of American citizens!!
so when it suits them, Yes.

Media Now- when it doesn't fit on the other hand movies don't cause someone o murder, unless they are unbalanced and that iss rae, and free expression and artistic license etc..then it doesn't . It was guns

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 03:39 PM (nqBYe)

31 I know that we do not have the loudest voice, but the hyprocisy displayed by these idiots is seeing the light of day. We aren't the only ones yelling and screaming about this bullshit.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 31, 2012 03:39 PM (ZOf1l)

32 17
Kinley Ardal you are in my head today. You are exactly right.

Posted by: small town girl at December 31, 2012 03:36 PM (p74mI)

I find it easier to live in other people's heads than to deal with the clutter in my own. It's dusty and cluttered in here. @_@

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 31, 2012 03:40 PM (pcaFm)

33 All great points, but as you alluded to, most people don't believe in precrime---Prohibition was rather effective in disabusing that notion. I really think we should attempt to link the gun control movement to Prohibition. There is a wealth of material and even the mention of Prohibition still has a profoundly negative effect on people.

Posted by: wte9 at December 31, 2012 03:40 PM (jRhv+)

34 Now I'm confused.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 31, 2012 03:40 PM (QKKT0)

35 >>>Yep, standards are puritanism. That's the logic that leads to Sandra Fluke becoming a political issue.

I have a standard that before you insult someone and accuse them you appraise yourself of the facts.

But we all must have our standards.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:40 PM (LCRYB)

36
shorter yet.
whatever suits our push in ideology we use.

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 03:40 PM (nqBYe)

37 Perhaps celebrities oppose guns as a way to assuage their own sub-concious guilt for promoting gun violence on the screen.

Guilt?

Ha ha ha ha ha. We're talking about a set of people who rallied around a child rapist.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 03:40 PM (SY2Kh)

38 I don't think this person was trying to suggest that anything coming out of Hollywood be banned. It was just an easy layup to point out the mountains of hypocrisy coming out of the mouths of the celebrities in question, when they propagate and profit from the depiction of firearms misuse.

Posted by: I Aim to Misbehave at December 31, 2012 03:41 PM (ur55E)

39 Kinley Ardal, just remember Lexington-Concord.

The British general in Boston wanted to seize the militia's arms before they got into mischief. I think he found the mischief that day. And this was also after the Boston Massacre.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 03:41 PM (fx1PU)

40 Well, yes, First Amendment and all that, but the Founding Fathers never envisioned such prolific, ubiquitous and inescapable media violence. If they had, surely they would have banned violent, highly realistic, first person shooter video games. ;-)

Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 03:41 PM (HzhBE)

41 It's a lot like racism. Until someone actually does something, it's not a crime. It's an attitude. It's an opinion. It's "thought-crime".


Posted by: Al at December 31, 2012 03:41 PM (V70Uh)

42 I blame the incivility we see every day in the comments section across the Internet. We must do something, demand a plan for common sense controls on Internet comments. I propose a three day waiting period.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 31, 2012 03:41 PM (6WVi+)

43 Quoting Oldsailors Poet: "They can all GFT." Go Fight Terrorists? :-)

...and congrats on your new book OsP!

Posted by: Mr_Write at December 31, 2012 03:42 PM (CLkAH)

44
"ENOUGH!" They wag their silly fingers at us like we are children. Fuck them.
As if we are not distraught over the senseless killing of little kids. As if their feelings will help and are superior. And yes they are hypocrites. Esp. that idiot Will Farrell.
I hate him.

Posted by: Fresh at December 31, 2012 03:42 PM (O7ksG)

45 Huck Follywood, and the whores they rode in on.

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 31, 2012 03:42 PM (v9Cj5)

46 What "standard" were you employing when you wrongly -- snottily, bitchily -- accused me of something you know realize wasn't me at all, but someone else entirely?

Your "standards" are extremely flexible. Your standards are not standards. You call them that, but they're really just a psychological woobie to convince yourself you have worth.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:42 PM (LCRYB)

47 i think in general Hollywood should acknowledge that there's violence that is a natural part of the story and gratuitous violence, as opposed to the stock "violence sells sex sells blahblahblah" responses

i don't think of these things in terms of the First Amendment, obviously people criticizing the industry/them ever deciding to self-police in some way is different.

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 03:42 PM (60GaT)

48 >> And that came from Hollywood.

Presumes a fact not in evidence in this case.

But as long as we're in the neighborhood, let's lump in the 24-hour news cycle and the press's saturation coverage of events like this.

Posted by: Andy at December 31, 2012 03:42 PM (OZPoa)

49 ...common sense controls on Internet comments.
I propose a three day waiting period.


Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 31, 2012 03:41 PM

When comment are illegal, only criminals will comment.

Posted by: Beto at December 31, 2012 03:43 PM (+I8Mq)

50
I don't have a problem with the movies. Some of them are a great ride (but I know they're...MOVIES).

I have a problem with airheads making the movies, and then thinking that because they make movies, they are policy wonks. (They AREN'T)

Which means I then have a problem with rich airheads with bodyguards and tax shelters preaching about who gets to have guns and pay more taxes.

They have the right to say whatever, sure.

They don't have the right to NOT be ridiculed, harangued, shown up and in general pukeslimed for preaching about it either.

f*ck em

Posted by: barbarausa at December 31, 2012 03:44 PM (WWeoI)

51 Hollywood leftists don't want to ban ALL guns ..

Just YOUR guns

Posted by: kbdabear at December 31, 2012 03:44 PM (wwsoB)

52 Ok forgive me two of your co-posters attacked LaPierre and you said nothing. That tends to imply consent with their views. But then you weren't accusing of puritanism in regards to facts but my use of the word frat.

Posted by: tennvols87 at December 31, 2012 03:44 PM (kQl8p)

53 They do the same shit with smoking. Everyone in the movies smokes. Try to light up within 50 miles of L.A. and you're worse than Hitler.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 03:45 PM (HDgX3)

54 Gun control has nothing to do with crime. It has everything to do with control.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 03:45 PM (OlN4e)

55 15 yard penalty on tennvols87 for moving the goalposts.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 03:45 PM (fx1PU)

56 >>>I don't think this person was trying to suggest that anything coming out of Hollywood be banned.

no, he didn't suggest that. But I still at first didn't see the hypocrisy -- if I own a gun, am I a hypocrite for thinking the Newtown shooter is a bad guy?

In other words, what does one legal, acceptable behavior have to do with anything at all?

At least in my mind I didn't see it, not at first. But when I saw (maybe you saw this further) that they were *selectively* choosing which contributing-factor to criminalize through precrime, then yeah, I saw it: Why just the one ban? If we're going precrime let's go all the way.

For the children.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:45 PM (LCRYB)

57

This is the 'Extended Cut'of that video above.
It's even better.

http://youtu.be/k1SZurGArxE

Posted by: wheatie at December 31, 2012 03:45 PM (K4wCe)

58 And another 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Posted by: Vizzini at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (O7Q1u)

59 It's called a fraternity, not a frat. Would you, sir, call your country as a cunt?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (6WVi+)

60 How did I move the goalposts?

Posted by: tennvols87 at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (kQl8p)

61 Well, that comment section went to shit in nothing flat.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (bxiXv)

62 Indeed, Anna Puma. Therein lies the rub that will annihilate the plans of the Lefties, no matter how hard they try.


...but I dread that possibility, if not eventuality, in the modern age. It breaks my damn heart daily.


Last night, ONT linked to a post by Bob Owens "What you'll see in the rebellion". It was... a good article, pretty accurate, I think, or as accurate as futurecasting can be anyhow, made some good points, and it turned my stomach to realize that such things actually have to be said.

Breaks my damn heart.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (pcaFm)

63 Well he played Dahmer, where he just ate people, and another film involving a meth lab, but SWAT, 28 Weeks later, Our Town, et al, all involved weapons.

Posted by: phillip fry at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (Jsiw/)

64 >>>Ok forgive me two of your co-posters attacked LaPierre and you said nothing.


Yes I just stood there, silently, while the Nazis came for the Communists.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (LCRYB)

65 Love the captions at the end, starting with "Demand Celebrities Go Fuck Themselves."

Posted by: rdbrewer at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (Iyg03)

66 I thought Ft. Hood was a workplace accident.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 31, 2012 03:46 PM (0It32)

67 We don't have to call for a ban on Hollywood gun violence. But shouldn't movie theaters across the U.S. should stop showing movies that contain gun violence out of respect for those children?

I say a 6 month moratorium.

So what if Hollywood loses millions? There are bigger issues at play. We must clear the air so we can have this national conversation about guns that all these leftists are so eager to have.

Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 03:47 PM (HzhBE)

68 Quoting Beto: "When comment are illegal, only criminals will comment."

They'll pry my comments from my cold, dead fingers.


Posted by: Mr_Write at December 31, 2012 03:47 PM (CLkAH)

69 You moved the accusatory goalposts when you wondered why Ace was silent when the cobloggers attacked LaPierre. Where in the first you were attacking Ace for posting the attack.

Upon further review the penalty stands.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 03:47 PM (fx1PU)

70 40

i know this is satirical but there's some truth to it. if we're talking living v. dead Constitution some of the things currently protected under "free speech" were never really previously thought of that way i'm sure

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (60GaT)

71 Posted by: tennvols87 at December 31, 2012 03:44 PM (kQl8p)

Have you ever read this blog before? I'm serious. The bloggers disagree with each other frequently.

Posted by: wte9 at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (jRhv+)

72 They're the same assholes who claim that they want to pay more taxes yet probably use every tax shelter and loophole available to them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (1Jaio)

73 Angelina Jolie with a gun. Please don't ruin that.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (4ME3G)

74 Have you ever read this blog before? I'm serious. The bloggers disagree with each other frequently.
Posted by: wte9 at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (jRhv+)


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No we don't.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:49 PM (4ME3G)

75 The Bride, katana - enough said.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 03:49 PM (fx1PU)

76
Ok forgive me two of your co-posters attacked LaPierre and you said nothing. That tends to imply consent with their views

Ladies and gentlemen, your winner of the most retarded comment of the day award!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 31, 2012 03:49 PM (0WLla)

77 Dang it...too bad there's no edit on this site. "They'll pry my comments from my cold, dead keyboard" would have been better, I think.

Posted by: Mr_Write at December 31, 2012 03:50 PM (CLkAH)

78 That video was beautiful. I would pay money to see it played on local tv stations around the country.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2012 03:50 PM (TOk1P)

79 A very large percentage of the explosion in new gun ownership is in two demographics -- Democrats and women. There is some overlap there because many women vote Dem.

WaPo (yuck) has some good charts showing this:

http://tinyurl.com/cdfrhye

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 31, 2012 03:50 PM (ccXZP)

80 1, I was on vacation, I didn't even read these posts;

2, My "saying something" consists of this post.

I'm not "in charge" of the cobloggers we do not have a heirarchical structure. They can think and write what they want.

You seem very upset that not everyone is always on the exact same page as you. Perhaps if we had a more rigid heirarchical structure then everyone would read in harmony from the same hymnal.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 03:50 PM (LCRYB)

81 gotta purge them bitter-clingers from the Dem Rainbow Coalition maan

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (60GaT)

82 73Angelina Jolie with a gun. Please don't ruin that.Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (4ME3G) Nobody has to......she did that when she had her body covered with bathroom graffiti.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (OlN4e)

83 79
A very large percentage of the explosion in new gun ownership is in two
demographics -- Democrats and women. There is some overlap there because
many women vote Dem.

WaPo (yuck) has some good charts showing this:

http://tinyurl.com/cdfrhye


Posted by: GnuBreed at December 31, 2012 03:50 PM (ccXZP)

_____________________
Fuck them. I hope each and everyone of them gets gang raped after Dianne Feinstein's gun bill passes.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (HDgX3)

84 Heh. As if Ace reads the blog.

Posted by: Andy at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (OZPoa)

85 Quoting: "Have you ever read this blog before? I'm serious. The bloggers disagree with each other frequently.

Posted by: wte9 at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (jRhv+)





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No we don't.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:49 PM (4ME3G)"Oh, yes we do! ;-)

Posted by: Mr_Write at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (CLkAH)

86 I want to be a member of the frat cons. What's the membership fee, a fistful of silver dimes?

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (w3+gB)

87 If you don't change your attitude, Ace, I'm going to leave this country. Don't think I won't do it. C'mon, I dare you! Don't change your attitude! I double-dog dare you!

Posted by: Jumping Piers Morgan at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (eHIJJ)

88 72
They're the same assholes who claim that they want to pay more taxes yet
probably use every tax shelter and loophole available to them.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (1Jaio)

______________
You called?

Posted by: CEO of General Electric and Obama BFF Jeff Immelt at December 31, 2012 03:52 PM (HDgX3)

89 AoS Frat Con. Valu-Rite and Hobo hunting are the past times.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 03:52 PM (fx1PU)

90 Oh yeah, what the fuck is a 'frat con'? I don't speak retard.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 31, 2012 03:53 PM (0WLla)

91 Nobody has to......she did that when she had her body covered with bathroom graffiti.
Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (OlN4e)


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That's not the only movie she's made with a gun in her hand.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:53 PM (4ME3G)

92 Frat Con.

Sounds like an annual trip to Vegas.

Posted by: Vizzini at December 31, 2012 03:54 PM (O7Q1u)

93 AOSHQ:
Standing athwart current events and shouting "stop".



Posted by: Bill Buck Lee at December 31, 2012 03:54 PM (v9Cj5)

94 Ace: "An intense surveillance our society has not yet -- thankfully --
extended beyond a few thousand known terrorists or known mafiosi."


We're working on that. Britain is showing us the way with an assist from Bush and Obama.

Posted by: Top. Men. at December 31, 2012 03:54 PM (eHIJJ)

95 ?

Posted by: Where all the sorority sisters at? at December 31, 2012 03:54 PM (I88Jc)

96 This is devolving into a pretty humorous string of comments.

Posted by: name at December 31, 2012 03:55 PM (Camtm)

97 Once posted here: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3q72wb/

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 03:55 PM (QupBk)

98

Only read the last few comments, but wouldn't this precrime idea also relate to violent video games where the blood flies as the gamer slaughters various living things?

I've read that our minds have problems distinguishing such game play fromreality. I don't know the truth about that, just throwing it out....

I do know that neurolinguistic programming is based on the idea that the mind accepts what we tell it as real. That's why we tell itpositive things if we are wise.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 03:55 PM (1Y+hH)

99 Ban cars. More kids killed in cars every day. No more driving, go back to horse and buggy.

Posted by: LYNNDH at December 31, 2012 03:55 PM (mr9Ns)

100 I'm going to join the frat cons, as soon as they reject my membership application.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 31, 2012 03:55 PM (ccXZP)

101
Oh yeah, what the fuck is a 'frat con'?


Is it the same as Def-Con only just for Colleges?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 31, 2012 03:56 PM (ZOf1l)

102 At least we got to see Jon Hamm stretch his expressive range in this thing. 'Cause baed on Mad Men I was beginning to think that he was just another talentless fuck.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 31, 2012 03:56 PM (nZvGM)

103 To the sad face celebs calling for gun grabbing

Same thing I say about tax increases, and cutting back on power consumption ...

YOU FIRST !!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at December 31, 2012 03:56 PM (wwsoB)

104 No we don't.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:49 PM (4ME3G)


Eat Flaming Death!!!! You Capitalistic Running Dog Raaaaa - 5 a's, count 'em - cist, Bacon 'n Stompy Boot Hating, Twilight Fan!!111!!eleventy ....

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 03:56 PM (9Qc6B)

105 If we are going to go down the "precrime" route as a civilization, that will inevitably lead to racial profiling. Just because now we are talking about "precrime" as the possession of an object (a gun) doesn't mean that in the future, when the links between crime and genetics become ever more clear due to continued deciphering of the human genome, it will be inevitable to "precriminalize" the possession of those specific genetic materials. It's just as much a case of building out the probabilities of a crime happening in the future whether we're talking about a gun or a person's biological makeup.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 31, 2012 03:57 PM (eP0u9)

106 Frat Con: Sorority sisters having things accidentally done in their mouths?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 31, 2012 03:57 PM (0WLla)

107 Never a better movie expression of this hypocracy than "Shoot 'Em Up"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 31, 2012 03:58 PM (5XK7K)

108 Ban cell phones. How many die texting while driving?

Pretty soon we will all be living in giant RubberMaid houses, no zippers but Velcro, and eating mushy food with a spork. Plus not a hard corner to hit one's head on.

That is the true absurdity of a 100% risk free world liberals want. Or as Mark Twain one time said - "Sounds like a bunch of cows after the last coyote has been shot."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 03:58 PM (fx1PU)

109 Add Ken Whisenhut and Norv Turner to the list of massacred head coaches today

Posted by: kbdabear at December 31, 2012 03:58 PM (wwsoB)

110 I want to be a member of the frat cons. What's the membership fee, a fistful of silver dimes?

If you're a legacy they have to let you in.

Posted by: Flounder at December 31, 2012 03:58 PM (QKKT0)

111 I've read that our minds have problems distinguishing such game play fromreality. I don't know the truth about that, just throwing it out....I do know that neurolinguistic programming is based on the idea that the mind accepts what we tell it as real. That's why we tell itpositive things if we are wise.
Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 03:55 PM (1Y+hH)


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So that explains why I've found I must stand behind a replica of the senate chamber podium when I comment here.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:58 PM (4ME3G)

112 #105

They don't call it Minority Report for nothing. ;-)

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 31, 2012 03:59 PM (v9Cj5)

113 Oddly enough, I'm watching Animal House right now.

tennvols87, why don't you have a seat over there with Mohammet, Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton ...

Posted by: Andy at December 31, 2012 03:59 PM (OZPoa)

114 "42
I blame the incivility we see every day in the comments section across
the Internet. We must do something, demand a plan for common sense
controls on Internet comments. I propose a three day waiting period.


Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 31, 2012 03:41 PM (6WVi+)"

When I read some of the historically-illiterate and whacked-out comments from the trolls, it definitely makes me think that owning a gun (or many guns) is a good idea. Those fucking people are crazy.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 31, 2012 03:59 PM (eP0u9)

115 tennvols87

At least he's pre-fat-fuck-fulmer.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 04:00 PM (QupBk)

116 Frat con: where they got together and banned the Animal House boys from campus.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2012 04:00 PM (TOk1P)

117 >> Pretty soon we will all be living in giant RubberMaid houses, no zippers but Velcro

Hawt!

Posted by: Andy at December 31, 2012 04:00 PM (OZPoa)

118 "Demand a plan" = don't just sit there, do something! A normal but irrational reaction to panic, and a bad basis for legislation.

Notice how none of these pretty faces actually elaborates on the details of whatever plan they endorse. I would love to see the reaction if a law were passed to ban violent movies.

Posted by: Paaj at December 31, 2012 04:00 PM (xYVem)

119 And I like Frat-cons. Beer bong anyone?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 04:00 PM (QupBk)

120 Pretty soon we will all be living in giant RubberMaid houses, no zippers
but Velcro, and eating mushy food with a spork. Plus not a hard corner
to hit one's head on.


But your light bulbs will be filled with mercury and your Chevy Volt will incinerate you.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 04:00 PM (QKKT0)

121 Those fucking people are crazy.

Those fucking animals are kinda gross and pathetic ...

just sayin'

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 04:00 PM (9Qc6B)

122 But Rex Ryan still has a job. What a joke.

Posted by: name at December 31, 2012 04:01 PM (Camtm)

123 If we are going to go down the "precrime" route as a civilization, that will inevitably lead to racial profiling.

More likely crime rates will increase as elderly white women will get hassled because hassling anyone else would be rayciss.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily--GO CYCLONES! at December 31, 2012 04:01 PM (VK7SU)

124 This entire blog has been on double secret probation.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at December 31, 2012 04:01 PM (QKKT0)

125 Eat Flaming Death!!!! You Capitalistic Running Dog Raaaaa - 5 a's, count 'em - cist, Bacon 'n Stompy Boot Hating, Twilight Fan!!111!!eleventy ....
Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 03:56 PM (9Qc6B)


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Hey! I am NOT a Twilight fan.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:01 PM (4ME3G)

126
I'll believe that Hollywood is serious about getting the guns out of the hands of felons, illegal drug users and the mentally ill when they stop putting guns in the hands of actors who are felons, illegal drug users and mentally ill.

Charles S Dutton, Marky Mark, Danny Trejo, Charlie Sheen, every rapper turned actor in HWood, LiLo etc etc.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:01 PM (TIIx5)

127 Hey ace, my IP at home is banned. Dont know why. Can i get it unbanned?

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 31, 2012 04:02 PM (2HdXd)

128 Add Ken Whisenhut and Norv Turner to the list of massacred head coaches today



Posted by: kbdabear at December 31, 2012 03:58 PM (wwsoB)

I see they started calling it "black monday" only after Romeo Crennel was fired.

Posted by: Toure' at December 31, 2012 04:02 PM (ZOf1l)

129 Notice how none of these pretty faces actually elaborates on the details of whatever plan they endorse.

I'm pretty sure "arm my personal security staff with whistles instead of guns" is not part of their plan.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily--GO CYCLONES! at December 31, 2012 04:02 PM (VK7SU)

130 http://tinyurl.com/azgm8ru (pravda.ru)

Americans: Never give up your guns

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 31, 2012 04:02 PM (0It32)

131 Ace: "I would not repeal the First Amendment just as I wouldn't repeal the Second."

An aside: But for the Second there would be no others.

Without the Second there are no Free Men. All this poppycock about guns for just militia and sport is diversionary tactics. The sole purpose of the Second was to ward off Tyranny. Period. End of Sentence.

If we don't die on this hill, there will be no hills left. IOW give no quarter ever to gungrabbers no matter how fluffy and innocuous the rhetoric.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (eHIJJ)

132 tennvols87...Aparently, I don't dare sit here and remain silent lest anyone assume you speak for ALL Tennesseans, like you wrongly insist Ace did with the co-bloggers vis-avis LaPierre.

So, no....you actually don't speak for all Vols. Just yourself.

Your Silence on This Post Means You Agree.™

FratCon Pledge Class 2012

Posted by: ChampionCapua at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (KZi9D)

133
So that explains why I've found I must stand behind a replica of the senate chamber podium when I comment here.Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:58 PM (4ME3G)________Always good to hear from the Honorable Senator Soona. Enjoy your raise!

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (1Y+hH)

134 I've read that our minds have problems distinguishing such game play fromreality. I don't know the truth about that, just throwing it out....

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 03:55 PM (1Y+hH)

I would say that's largely bullshit.

Warped minds do warped things, plain and simple. If violence in video games truly resulted in real life violence, we'd have a Sandy Hook every day, given the millions of young men who play them.

Posted by: KG at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (p7BzH)

135 >>>Oh yeah, what the fuck is a 'frat con'?

It's a moronic attempt to divert discussion from actual facts/news/policy/politics and turn the conversation, once again, to the only Comfort Zone of some people, which is making a broad attack on others for not being Culturally Correct, that is, not being quite kosher, not being "one of ours," not having the cultural credentials necessary to move in this society.

Dimes to donuts tennvol is a big Palin fan. I say that because the main thrust of her appeal is the idea that some of us are Real Americans and some of us aren't.

It's a type of reverse snobbery, every bit as objectionable as that of the Liberal Swells, but, I think, slightly dumber and more pathetic, as it's a *reaction*, and thus done defensively, sort of copy-cat.

It's also an attempt to play the I'm More Conservative! Than You Are game that some love so much.

I don't give a shit about labels, really. I don't care who's more Conservative!

So I invite any people who might want to play this asinine game with me in the future to not bother, and simply mark your scoring sheet with the "W." You win. You are More Conservative! than I am.

I would imagine that in fact anyone interested in winning the More Conservative! game IS in fact more conservative, so just see the cashier and collect your winnings and leave me out of it.

I'm here to talk about ideas, not personal shit. And this attempt to so frequently derail the conversation into conservative dick-measuring contests is in fact personal crap -- it's a stupid competition, initiated by the same 30 people, that is not about anything except their own driving need to compete with someone else in one of the few areas they believe they can win.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (LCRYB)

136 >> I see they started calling it "black monday" only after Romeo Crennel was fired.

It's clearly racisssss, since Lovie Smith also got the axe.

No, not "ask", "axe".

Posted by: Andy at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (OZPoa)

137 At least the frat cons had the future Senator Blutarsky. All we've got is effen Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (nZvGM)

138 Dammit woman! How long does it take to go to the grocery store and bring me homesome damn pepperoni, cheese and crackers?!?! Is whatI would text my wife right now if I weren't so "enlightened". 90 minutes and counting...

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2012 04:04 PM (tkoGU)

139 Hey! I am NOT a Twilight fan.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:01 PM (4ME3G)


That was a low blow. Sorry. Sorry! Lost my head. New civility and all that...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 04:04 PM (9Qc6B)

140 Hey ace, my IP at home is banned. Dont know why. Can i get it unbanned?Posted by: Flapjackmaka I believe Andy is the resident debannifier. He got the job by making sure he thinks, believes, and writes the exact same things that Ace does.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 31, 2012 04:04 PM (0WLla)

141 The new Twilight Zone episode on SyFy is about people trying to convince a guy to let them into his bomb shelter.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:04 PM (fx1PU)

142 Wolves gonna woof

Posted by: Oraculum Ovum at December 31, 2012 04:04 PM (I88Jc)

143
Hey ace, my IP at home is banned. Dont know why. Can i get it unbanned?


Your house is violent, that's why.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 04:04 PM (1Y+hH)

144 Is it too much to ask that someone who is considered a conservative, even though he's admitted he has no idea why he's a conservative, would actually write something conservative that...you know...makes sense? Some kind of sense? In some universe somewhere? Here's a clue Ace: they're liberals. Hate them. Mock them. Ridicule them. Insult them. Think of...oh, I don't know....pretend they're Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin or the Tea Party. You and your crew have no problem dissing them. Try it on a liberal once in awhile. It's easy if you stop worrying about what Ed Morrissey will think of you. Oh, right. Sorry. [slaps forehead] I wasn't thinking. Carry on.

Posted by: Jaynie59 at December 31, 2012 04:05 PM (4zKCA)

145 Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (LCRYB)


This rampant abuse of punctuation marks must end now.

Posted by: Hillary! at December 31, 2012 04:05 PM (QKKT0)

146 I'm not drinking from the boot bowl, there's undigested corn floating in it.

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2012 04:05 PM (w3+gB)

147 I would say that's largely bullshit.

Warped minds do warped things, plain and simple. If violence in video games truly resulted in real life violence, we'd have a Sandy Hook every day, given the millions of young men who play them.Posted by: KG at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (p7BzH)--- ---- ---- I knew the gamers would be on this quickly, hehheheh....

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 04:06 PM (1Y+hH)

148 Always good to hear from the Honorable Senator Soona. Enjoy your raise!
Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 04:03 PM (1Y+hH)


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HRUMPF!

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:06 PM (4ME3G)

149 Thought I saw Reese Witherspoon in there -- they left out her scene shooting Kiefer Sutherland in "Freeway." Otherwise nicely done.

Posted by: Alex at December 31, 2012 04:06 PM (/yzYn)

150 Does that make me a sorority girl?

Posted by: Lauren at December 31, 2012 04:07 PM (wsGWu)

151 i reject the false choice between establishmentarian milquetoastness and Mark Levin parrot insanity

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 04:07 PM (60GaT)

152 >> 127 Hey ace, my IP at home is banned. Dont know why. Can i get it unbanned?

See here: http://goo.gl/D8EKl

Posted by: Andy at December 31, 2012 04:07 PM (OZPoa)

153 Ace, thanks for putting to print what I've been talking about for 34 years.
I'm tired of talking with zero results. Yeah, after 34 years of bitching, (since I was 16), I'm lazy. Nice to be able to point & click & forward a link.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:08 PM (GFM2b)

154 The song is "Kill a Celebrity" by the band Ramallah. Its on youtube. I thought Metal had lost its edge but, whoa, that song is pretty hardcore. So used to so many bands sucking up to the Hollywood culture these days.

Posted by: Codec717 at December 31, 2012 04:08 PM (bMlVI)

155
Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:06 PM (4ME3G)


Youpeeps are close to an agreement, right?


*runs*

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 04:09 PM (1Y+hH)

156 It's Magical Thinking. All of it, including my pet positions that better mental health care and having armed guards in schools, is magical thinking that if we just do X Y and Z then horrible things 1 2 and 3 will never ever happen again.


Evil people will do evil things. Evil crazy people will do evil crazy things. Nothing we can do will ever stop that.


Annnnd there's my ray of sunshine for all y'all for today.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 04:09 PM (Gk3SS)

157 Dammit woman! How long does it take to go to the grocery store and bring
me homesome damn pepperoni, cheese and crackers?!?! Is whatI would text
my wife right now if I weren't so "enlightened". 90 minutes and
counting...


Unless you very explicitly specified "Pepperoni, cheese, crackers, and absolutely nothing else", it's your own damned fault.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 04:09 PM (SY2Kh)

158 "More likely crime rates will increase as elderly white women will get hassled because hassling anyone else would be rayciss.


Posted by: HeatherRadish� drinking heavily--GO CYCLONES! at December 31, 2012 04:01 PM (VK7SU)"

Maybe, but I haven't seen anyone who isn't already a true believer that "everything is racist" take a racism charge seriously in years. The science for the genetic origins of behavior, both good and bad, is more solid than anything to do with AGW, for example, and it's only going to be more so in the future.
A while back, I was reading an article that police are using DNA to identify the race of a criminal even in the absence of eyewitnesses, based on the known data of genetic differences across races.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 31, 2012 04:09 PM (eP0u9)

159 >>>Is it too much to ask that someone who is considered a conservative, even though he's admitted he has no idea why he's a conservative, would actually write something conservative that...you know...makes sense? Some kind of sense? In some universe somewhere? Here's a clue Ace: they're liberals. Hate them. Mock them. Ridicule them. Insult them. Think of...oh, I don't know....pretend they're Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin or the Tea Party. You and your crew have no problem dissing them. Try it on a liberal once in awhile. It's easy if you stop worrying about what Ed Morrissey will think of you. Oh, right. Sorry. [slaps forehead] I wasn't thinking. Carry on.


Another winner in the More Conservative! game. I think. He's not very coherent. Coherence might be Liberal.

It's hilarious when I write something that's completely Conservatively Correct and the same guys, who have this driving need to always be the Most Conservative! In The Room, still try to position themselves to the right of me, because they want to make sure everyone knows they're the Most Conservative!

No one seems to be disagreeing with what I said, but the More Conservative! players (owners of the Conservatives and Contrarians Role-Playing Game), are just determined to let everyone here know that unlike myself, who had to THINK my way to this position, they arrived there without thinking about it at all, and hence are More Conservative!

Also, thinking may be Liberal, as it is suggests a disturbing tendency towards doubt and questioning.

Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 04:10 PM (LCRYB)

160 I'm not saying I'm more conservative than all of you, but I literally pushed my wheelchair bound Granny off a cliff and onto a minority who was walking out of Planned Parenthood.

Pikers.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 31, 2012 04:10 PM (6WVi+)

161 FNC reporting there's going to be a tentative vote on the fiscal plan within hours. Yeah, I bet it's tentative.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:10 PM (4ME3G)

162 Aww darnit, Ace, you had to say the "P" word, didn't you.

Now they're all going to show up.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2012 04:10 PM (TOk1P)

163
I didn't go as deep, I just enjoyed the mocking of these celebs for their stiltifyingly stupid video as if they had some influence over people to demand another endless series of gun laws, which they know nothing of, or even the facts thereof.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 31, 2012 04:10 PM (69Mdf)

164 Alexthechick, dont forget to get another cow for Polly.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:11 PM (fx1PU)

165 You and your crew have no problem dissing them. Try it on a liberal once in awhile."

Let me guess. The only time you read this site is when C4P link to it for the five minutes of hate.

Posted by: Lauren at December 31, 2012 04:11 PM (wsGWu)

166 Pretty soon we will all be living in giant RubberMaid houses, no zippers but Velcro, and eating mushy food with a spork.

Sporks are a gateway utensil that leads to nail clippers, chopsticks, and nutcrackers. We need to get rid of them too, just to be safe.

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 04:11 PM (6TB1Z)

167 This is why I liked Lapierre's speech. What Republicans should do is anytime a gun control bill is introduced, attach an amendment that states that any movie that portrays guns in any way should be taxed at 90%.

If Hollywood thinks they are so anti-gun, let's see them walk the walk.

Posted by: Marmo at December 31, 2012 04:11 PM (pcgW1)

168 Ace is no True Scotsman.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (QupBk)

169 No we don't. Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:49 PM (4ME3G)

Do too.

Do not.

Do too.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (kXoT0)

170 :::I have a standard that before you insult someone and accuse them you appraise yourself of the facts:::

Well, hellooooo Mr. Fancy Pants! Some of us don't have time for your fancy "standards" and "reading."

I'm so tired of being lectured to by the elites...

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (r1J3n)

171 I guess I should count myself lucky thatI wasn't dragooned into going along with her.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (tkoGU)

172 Unless you very explicitly specified "Pepperoni, cheese, crackers, and absolutely nothing else", it's your own damned fault.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 04:09 PM (SY2Kh)


That has absolutely nothing to do with it.
You need explicit instructions to ignore any and all friends they stumble into. As in "Oh, I saw Laurie and Sally at the supermarket and we went over to Vic's coffee shop ..."

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (Qxe/p)

173 Dammit woman! How long does it take to go to the grocery store and bring
me homesome damn pepperoni, cheese and crackers?!?! Is whatI would text
my wife right now if I weren't so "enlightened". 90 minutes and
counting...

Unless you very explicitly specified "Pepperoni, cheese, crackers, and absolutely nothing else", it's your own damned fault.

Never, ever, send a gatherer to hunt.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (GFM2b)

174 Oh, are we having a Conservative Dick Measuring Contest?


12 inches, conservatively.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (hpYnL)

175
Here's a clue Ace: they're liberals. Hate them. Mock them. Ridicule them. Insult them. Think of...oh, I don't know....pretend they're Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin or the Tea Party. You and your crew have no problem dissing them. Try it on a liberal once in awhile

Sweet holy fuck, I take it back. We have a new winner for Most Retarded Comment of the Day.

Yeah, if there's one thing ace never does, it's mock, ridicule, and insult liberals.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (0WLla)

176 Alexthechick, dont forget to get another cow for Polly.


Oh the raptors are still gorging on those who decided to engage in the circular firing squad stuff. I won't have to feed them again for a few hours.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (Gk3SS)

177 73Angelina Jolie with a gun. Please don't ruin
that.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 03:48 PM (4ME3G)






Ruin her? Whatever flaws Angelina and Brad have in their politics (which are numerous), they're both committed gun nuts.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:13 PM (TIIx5)

178 i feel out of place cuz i'm More Conservative on the issues even conservatives aren't supposed to be conservative on, and Less Conservative on what people keep saying the GOP should be exclusively about

so i get to simultaneously be a sniveling RINO and a far-right theocratic extremist who only goes to church occasionally

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 04:13 PM (60GaT)

179 Oh no EoJ is here. Run for the hills!! For the children's sake!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:13 PM (fx1PU)

180 Fucking minstrels and line-memorizers is all they are anyway.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 31, 2012 04:13 PM (ZOf1l)

181 Somebody linked another video here on the same subject. It was shorter but had some of the celebs that the longer one missed. Can't rub these people's face too much in this. Assholes.

Posted by: red at December 31, 2012 04:13 PM (ymJbM)

182 "Conservatives and Contrarians Role-Playing Game"

So...is that available in the AoSHQ store?

Posted by: MrShad at December 31, 2012 04:14 PM (Xqfwb)

183 Unless you very explicitly specified "Pepperoni, cheese, crackers, and absolutely nothing else", it's your own damned fault.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 04:09 PM (SY2Kh)

As if that caveat helps...

Posted by: KG at December 31, 2012 04:14 PM (p7BzH)

184 "The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent."
-Stuff Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote

Substitute "movie portrayals" for "words" and we're on to something. The 1st Amendment is subject to reasonable restraint as is the 2nd. The 2nd has long been subject to this restraint. Any examples regarding the First? On the contrary, it has been expanded beyond reason to subvert the others.

The case in question was later overturned or at least amended.

"The First Amendment holding in Schenck was later overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot). The test in Brandenburg is the current High Court jurisprudence on the ability of government to proscribe speech after that fact. "

Alas, there is that word, imminent, and the restriction against "after that fact".

I am not a lawyer, but it seems we are close to shutting these violence mongers down while protecting the 1st. If not, keep up the hypocrisy schtick.

Hollywood makes these movies, I suspect we all agree, for two reasons. The first, of course, is they are titillating and so make money. The second, more important one, is they are shown abroad leaving all with an anti-American impression the US, with its 2nd Amendment, is a lawless, violent place. Well, except when compared to other countries. Win. Win.

My points? Damned if I know, except I hate Hollywood and what it has done to the movies and sometimes the Perfect is the Enemy of the Good.

Posted by: Sefton at December 31, 2012 04:14 PM (qzxaJ)

185 120 Pretty soon we will all be living in giant RubberMaid houses, no zippers but Velcro, and eating mushy food with a spork. Plus not a hard corner to hit one's head on.But your light bulbs will be filled with mercury and your Chevy Volt will incinerate you.---------------------------------------------------------------------


Don't forget - No Working Toilets! Only urinals and urinals shaped like toilets.

Posted by: Boots at December 31, 2012 04:14 PM (oG66P)

186 Just found out from my son yesterday morning that while Mr. Book and I were out running errands, my (mostly supposedly conservative) family was having a discussion on gun control with my kids... in favor of it. Because that nice Mr. Lauer said some stuff and wasn't that NRA guy so UNREPENTANT? How dare he not apologize for murdering all of those children!

As the great thinker Yosemite Sam once said, "I's hates the media."

Posted by: Book at December 31, 2012 04:14 PM (WpcKa)

187 Also, thinking may be Liberal, as it is suggests a disturbing tendency towards doubt and questioning.

Whoa, there pardner, let's not get crazy.

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 04:14 PM (6TB1Z)

188 I've read that our minds have problems distinguishing such game play
fromreality. I don't know the truth about that, just throwing it out....

I
do know that neurolinguistic programming is based on the idea that the
mind accepts what we tell it as real. That's why we tell itpositive
things if we are wise.


Yeah, I'm frequently confused when I can't hit a man-sized target with a .45 and shooting off-hand from 200 yards away like I can on the xbox.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 04:15 PM (SY2Kh)

189 I can't stop the shopping, I only hope to contain it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2012 04:15 PM (tkoGU)

190 "Conservatives and Contrarians Role-Playing Game"

So...is that available in the AoSHQ store?

I call the Thor Hammer of Dick Cheny!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:16 PM (GFM2b)

191
TO THE BANNED: Try unplugging your modem and replugging.

Posted by: red at December 31, 2012 04:16 PM (ymJbM)

192 Dimes to donuts tennvol is a big Palin fan. I say that because the main thrust of her appeal is the idea that some of us are Real Americans and some of us aren't.

No, this is the appeal of her detractors—that people who sound like my sister must be barred from public office, simply because they sound like where they grew up.

Guns in Hollywood movies are insidious partly, I think, because they are the hand of God. They perform the work that the director needs. Untrained wielders can hit anything because the director needs it. Trained wielders will miss because the movie can’t be over with yet. (I would almost pay money for a movie that ends after ten minutes because the lowly victim in the first scene successfully defends themselves.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 31, 2012 04:16 PM (CeNUw)

193 :::I have a standard that before you insult someone and accuse them you appraise yourself of the facts:::


----------------------------------------------------


Why?

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:16 PM (4ME3G)

194 I call the Thor Hammer of Dick Cheny!
------------
Thought that was called his War C*ck?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:16 PM (fx1PU)

195 160
I'm not saying I'm more conservative than all of you, but I literally
pushed my wheelchair bound Granny off a cliff and onto a minority who
was walking out of Planned Parenthood.



pfffft. I do that daily. While twirling my mustachios. And I don't even have mustachios.

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 04:16 PM (6TB1Z)

196 Oh, are we having a Conservative Dick Measuring Contest?


12 inches, conservatively.


Posted by: mugiwara at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (hpYnL)






Damn, this water's cold.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:17 PM (TIIx5)

197 The basic premise of allowing hollywood weinie waggers (male and female--if you think Penny Marshall, Meryl Streep, Babwa Streisand, Oprah et al can't hammer nails with the schlongs they use beat lesser mortals into submission, then you understand little about BIG women in entertainment) is that most of them dropped out of high school and are basically illiterate. It makes it easy for the smart people in charge of the lanes of power to keep them on the correct track.

Right now, there is a new movie getting a lot of publicity about the EVILS of fracking and how it must be stopped or TEOLAWKI will occur. They are using junk science BECAUSE fracking is making some states with Conservatives in Charge obscene amounts of money, while the states with Liberals in Charge are going broke.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:17 PM (kXoT0)

198 I thrash an urchin every morning to get my blood moving.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 04:17 PM (QupBk)

199 WTF, Anna? Is my zipper down again? Doc said it's all cleared up, so calm down.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 31, 2012 04:18 PM (r1J3n)

200 OT/

Any recommendations for sparkling wine? Preferably sweet.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 31, 2012 04:18 PM (UypUQ)

201 I call the Thor Hammer of Dick Cheny!
------------
Thought that was called his War C*ck?

Well, there are ladies present and I was trying to be polite.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:18 PM (GFM2b)

202 Oh, are we having a Conservative Dick Measuring Contest?


12 inches, conservatively.




Posted by: mugiwara at December 31, 2012 04:12 PM (hpYnL)



I've punched an ACT UP member in the face. I win.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 04:18 PM (Gk3SS)

203 "...frat cons..."

Posted by: tennvols87 at December 31, 2012 03:33 PM (kQl8p)

Okay, I'm game: what the hell is a 'frat con'? I just can't keep up with the hepcats any more, daddy-o.

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2012 04:18 PM (vtiE6)

204 The Contrarian's Guild is out of control.

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2012 04:19 PM (w3+gB)

205 Toby, sea or street? One will be painful while the other will get you time in the slammer.

Heh EoJ. Knew that would get you started.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:19 PM (fx1PU)

206 This video simply points out hypocrisy. You can't claim that guns are inherently evil and then glorify them. And as someone else mentioned, you can't blame one movie(the Mohammed one) for creating violence and exempt the one you yourself made. It also proves that most actors and actresses are stupid, self-centered, and greedy.

Posted by: Deanna at December 31, 2012 04:19 PM (HgIhG)

207 Damn, this water's cold.


Deep, too.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:19 PM (GFM2b)

208 Is not.

Posted by: The Contrarian's Guild at December 31, 2012 04:20 PM (QupBk)

209 :::193 :::I have a standard that before you insult someone and accuse them you appraise yourself of the facts:::


----------------------------------------------------


Why?
Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:16 PM (4ME3G):::


***cough RINO cough cough***

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 31, 2012 04:20 PM (r1J3n)

210 196 -

And deep.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 31, 2012 04:20 PM (TOk1P)

211 A few guns in the hands of some criminals is a much more manageable problem than to cede all media to the mentally disordered leftists.


The former can result in the sporadic but tragic death of innocents.
The latter will inevitably lead to a wasteful erosion of liberty and the killing of the Republic.


That video shows the real value of selective editing to underscore truth rather than the Hollywood norm of obscuring it for leftist agendas.



Posted by: ontherocks at December 31, 2012 04:20 PM (aZ6ew)

212 Maybe, but I haven't seen anyone who isn't already a true believer that
"everything is racist" take a racism charge seriously in years.


The TSA springs to mind. Ever get your pork chops swabbed for explosive residue while the young Middle-Eastern dude in the line in front of you gets to walk through with an 8 oz bottle of liquid?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily--GO CYCLONES! at December 31, 2012 04:20 PM (VK7SU)

213 The bottom is rocky.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 04:21 PM (QupBk)

214 Any recommendations for sparkling wine? Preferably sweet.

Scotch, and soda.

It's sweet, and it sparkles. In fact... it makes ME sparkle.




Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 31, 2012 04:21 PM (4Mv1T)

215 OT/ Any recommendations for sparkling wine? Preferably sweet.

Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill. Getting girls drunk since the 70's.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:21 PM (GFM2b)

216 Not everyone piled on The Pierre last week regardless. It was a coblogger discussion. I think one of the cobloggers reached a similar point as Ace (and a poster stated this much more eloquently than me) in which he said that The Pierre was blaming movies and videogames for violence not because they are at fault, but because they are the most relevant enemies on the enemies list for this particular issue.

The NRA has not a damned thing to do with the Sandy Hook tragedy, but they were the most relevant enemy on the left's list and therefore were blamed.

Posted by: notsomsm at December 31, 2012 04:21 PM (/sbgO)

217 Yeah this Twilight Zone episode is a perfect little show on why you never ever let others know you are a prepper. The guy's neighbors are now thinking about using a battering ram to breach the bunker.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:21 PM (fx1PU)

218 You are standing in a large amphitheater. worn seats line row after row, radiating out from a podium placed in the middle of the floor.

The scent of despondancy and and corruption permeate everything, clinging to you like a woolly sweater of dismay.

Suddenly, someone expresses an idea!

Do you:

1) Disagree out of Principal?
2) Disagree because it isn't practice?
3) Disagree because it isn't affordable?
4) Disagree because you are on camera?

Roll for initiative.

Posted by: MrShad at December 31, 2012 04:22 PM (Xqfwb)

219 >>>>I'm not saying I'm more conservative than all of you, but I literally
pushed my wheelchair bound Granny off a cliff and onto a minority who
was walking out of Planned Parenthood.


pfffft. I do that daily. While twirling my mustachios. And I don't even have mustachios.


Heh. Is that all you've got? I personally took food out of the mouths of hungry homeless children, converted the on hand stock to an immediately available trading commodity, made millions on speculation driving the cost of food up, then gave all of the profits to the NRA.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 31, 2012 04:22 PM (b35fn)

220 The Horde knows all the pissing off the back of the boat jokes I see.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 31, 2012 04:22 PM (hpYnL)

221 :::Ever get your pork chops swabbed:::

Is that what they're calling it these days?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 31, 2012 04:22 PM (r1J3n)

222 Right now, there is a new movie getting a lot of
publicity about the EVILS of fracking and how it must be stopped or
TEOLAWKI will occur. They are using junk science BECAUSE fracking is
making some states with Conservatives in Charge obscene amounts of
money, while the states with Liberals in Charge are going broke.


Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:17 PM (kXoT0)





Supposedly, they did re-shoots to change the story from the conventional "evil oil company fracks for oil and kills puppies for profit" to "evil oil company tricks environmentalists into embracing false meme about harmful fracking to discredit the environmental movement so they can frack for oil and kill puppies for profit".
Yeah, that'll sell.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:22 PM (TIIx5)

223 Looks like Congress will not meet the deadline. Hello, cliff.

Posted by: navybrat at December 31, 2012 04:23 PM (BzGtc)

224

I still can't get over Obama's props, today.

What a show.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 04:23 PM (Oad2m)

225 Do any sciencey types out there know if a chemical additive to gun powder could make it unusable after being hit with enough EM radiation?

Posted by: Archimedes, marital aid designer at December 31, 2012 04:23 PM (I88Jc)

226 Any recommendations for sparkling wine? Preferably sweet.

A while back Sunset magazine had an article re: such.

Maybe still on their website...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 04:23 PM (9Qc6B)

227 The bottom is rocky.


Game, set, & match. Well played, sir.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:23 PM (GFM2b)

228 you can't blame one movie(the Mohammed one) for creating violence and exempt the one you yourself made. It also proves that most actors and actresses are stupid, self-centered, and greedy. Posted by: Deanna at December 31, 2012 04:19 PM (HgIhDeanna, I had also brought that point up because there was a Director that did just that>was it for Fitna? or ?anyway i guess if it's more professionaly done.sorry mind quivered inside, I srsly cannot grasp the thinking.One is more artistic? One is done by someone more important so?anyway.

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 04:23 PM (nqBYe)

229 Any recommendations for sparkling wine? Preferably sweet.
Posted by: Serious Cat at December 31, 2012 04:18 PM (UypUQ)


-----------------------------------------------


Night Train

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:23 PM (4ME3G)

230 The only time you read this site is when C4P link to it for the five minutes of hate.

I still have C4P in my RSS feed, and I haven’t seen hate links to Ace. I did a quick google for Ace of Spades and the first link (see link in name) says that Ace “nails it”.

Can you provide a link to the hate? (Serious question, I have them in my RSS feed, but don’t often read past the headlines.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 31, 2012 04:24 PM (CeNUw)

231 Supposedly, they did re-shoots to change the story
from the conventional "evil oil company fracks for oil and kills puppies
for profit" to "evil oil company tricks environmentalists into
embracing false meme about harmful fracking to discredit the
environmental movement so they can frack for oil and kill puppies for
profit".
Yeah, that'll sell.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:22 PM (TIIx5)



They had to do that because the guy whose work was the basis of the screenplay was revealed as more or less completely faking all his results. Thus, he was tricked! We aren't wrong!


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 04:24 PM (Gk3SS)

232 Remember when a troll once referred to us as "crypto-cons"?

That was my favorite.

Rule of thumb: Anyone who uses some formulation of the word "con" as an insult has a sub-100 IQ and the creative horse power of a Saved by the Bell holiday special.

Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 04:24 PM (HzhBE)

233
uh, my spacethingy seems to work when it feels like doing so.

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 04:24 PM (nqBYe)

234 I've punched an ACT UP member in the face. I win.

I'm totally straight, but this makes me reconsider.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily--GO CYCLONES! at December 31, 2012 04:24 PM (VK7SU)

235 Does not.

Posted by: The Contrarian's Guild at December 31, 2012 04:25 PM (QupBk)

236 Ban Subways!

Nanny Bloomberg, subways are dangerous murder weapons. If you had done your job and banned subways, the murder victims would still be alive today.
Also, the National Subway Association should be prosecuted for murder.

Posted by: Obscenely OverPaid Spoiled Celebrity at December 31, 2012 04:25 PM (cA2ZD)

237 Mr.Shad@218,

I think you pull out your AR-15 and start spraying bullets. I understand from The Left that that's what I'm predisposed to do since I support the 2nd Amdt.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 31, 2012 04:26 PM (eHIJJ)

238
The Horde knows all the pissing off the back of the boat jokes I see.


Posted by: mugiwara at December 31, 2012 04:22 PM (hpYnL)





Sometimes I like to tee up an easy one for The Horde to play with.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:26 PM (TIIx5)

239 RE: Twilight Zone marathon.

Love that yearly Syfy tradition. I can think of no better marathon of shows/movies to mark the New Year.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 31, 2012 04:26 PM (UypUQ)

240 >>>>>>> Heh. Is that all you've got? I personally took food out of the mouths of
hungry homeless children, converted the on hand stock to an immediately
available trading commodity, made millions on speculation driving the
cost of food up, then gave all of the profits to the NRA.

I can't believe you like money too. We should hang out.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 31, 2012 04:26 PM (6WVi+)

241 I think mockery should be a key effort in the next election cycle. I think it's stupid that the conservatives didn't bring up the Iraq war votes that many, many democrat house/senate (hillary tsk tsk) made during the 2008 election cycle.

Posted by: notsomsm at December 31, 2012 04:26 PM (/sbgO)

242 I'm totally straight, but this makes me reconsider.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily--GO CYCLONES! at December 31, 2012 04:24 PM (VK7SU)



*sidles over* I have cookies too. Oh can I top off your Val U Rite?



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 04:26 PM (Gk3SS)

243 213 The bottom is rocky.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 04:21 PM (QupBk)


Somebody's writing Chinese graffiti on mine.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at December 31, 2012 04:27 PM (KZi9D)

244 by the way, it's hard to type with a clingy 30 pound schnauzer in your lap......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:27 PM (TIIx5)

245 >>>225 Do any sciencey types out there know if a chemical additive to gun powder could make it unusable after being hit with enough EM radiation?

Theoretically enough high energy gamma or x-ray could render smokeless (nitro cellulose, nitro glycerine) powder inert. But that much would totally kill every living thing, even the cockroaches.

Black powder on the other hand, as it is a mix of stable chemicals, could not be practically irradiated to an inert status.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 31, 2012 04:28 PM (b35fn)

246 uh, my spacethingy seems to work when it feels like doing so.
Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 04:24 PM (nqBYe)Yeah, and I haven't been able to use italics, bold, etc. for a long time.

Posted by: Deanna at December 31, 2012 04:28 PM (HgIhG)

247 So that is what you call your thing, the Schnauzer...

Okay... say no more...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:28 PM (fx1PU)

248 Obama says he wants more taxes next year. Wow, didn't see that coming.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 04:28 PM (HDgX3)

249
Posted by: ace at December 31, 2012 04:10 PM (LCRYB)


Ace, this also plays into this idea that moderate Republicans can't be converted or worked with to form a coalition. Where else can conservatives go to make converts? I submit that a moderate Republican can be brought around easier than a liberal of any stripe.


That's why I say "slutdrop" the GOPe in my sig. Slutdrop means to drop and immediately pick up again.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 04:28 PM (1Y+hH)

250 When Hollywood sneezes, the trigger-finger squeezes. (You're right. It needs work)

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (4ME3G)

251
Won't you join the Ampersand Liberation Front and fight for freedom?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (TIIx5)

252 I'm so conservative, I took a John Birch Society pamphlet once.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (uhAkr)

253 AtC, what kind of cookies? Ones with white chocolate?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (fx1PU)

254 by the way, it's hard to type with a clingy 30 pound schnauzer in your lap......

So that's what all the kwel kidz are calling it these days?

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (9Qc6B)

255 Censor violence in films and television? No, let people watch however much violence they like, but they should certainly be informed about what television viewing (in particular) does to them. For example, our minds don't discriminate between real memories, those events we've actually experienced, and 'TV memories', those events we view on the little box with flickering lights dominating the living room. That fond memory of Grandma's 90th birthday party is treated no differently by our (sub)consciousness than an 'I Love Lucy' rerun. They're both processed (for lack of a better word) as equally valid'experiences'. Obviously, advertisers aren't going to advertise how deeply they're getting into our heads, but there's a reason why the bulk of campaign expenditures are devoted to media campaigns.

We are, in part,the sum of our experiences. Too bad for those of you pervy enough to watch 'A Serbian Film'.

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (vtiE6)

256 Incidentally, I'm up in Muskoka, and now that Peninsula Lake is finally frozen, we can go ahead and have our traditional New Year's Orphan Toss.

That's how you put the Crip in "crypto-con", bizznatch.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (r1J3n)

257
Remember when a troll once referred to us as "crypto-cons"?

That was my favorite.

Rule of thumb: Anyone who uses some formulation of the word "con" as an insult has a sub-100 IQ and the creative horse power of a Saved by the Bell holiday special.


I like to think of myself as a Cock-a-Con.

King of Spunk

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (0WLla)

258 I think you pull out your AR-15 and start spraying bullets. I understand from The Left that that's what I'm predisposed to do since I support the 2nd Amdt.

No can do. I actually have to pay for MY ammo.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (GFM2b)

259 Rule of thumb: Anyone who uses some formulation of
the word "con" as an insult has a sub-100 IQ and the creative horse
power of a Saved by the Bell holiday special.


Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 04:24 PM (HzhBE)

______________
Hey!!

Posted by: Screetch at December 31, 2012 04:30 PM (HDgX3)

260 Damn, this water's cold.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2012 04:17 PM (TIIx5)

*****

Yeah, deep too.

Posted by: John Boehner, the most important man in the House at December 31, 2012 04:30 PM (1OZSU)

261 AtC, what kind of cookies? Ones with white chocolate?


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (fx1PU)



Let's see. There's peanut butter, Russian tea cakes, golden cups, chocolate chocolate chip and white chocolate chip.


Also booze.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 04:30 PM (Gk3SS)

262 I'm so conservative, I took a John Birch Society pamphlet once.

Oh yeah? Well I chose the font.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 04:30 PM (SY2Kh)

263
...the creative horse power of a Saved by the Bell holiday special.

Posted by: Warden






Bite me.

Posted by: Lark Voorhies


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 31, 2012 04:30 PM (kdS6q)

264 For example, our minds don't discriminate between real memories, those events we've actually experienced, and 'TV memories', those events we view on the little box with flickering lights dominating the living room.

Preposterous.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 04:31 PM (QupBk)

265 So that is what you call your thing, the Schnauzer...

Okay... say no more...


Ewwwww.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 04:31 PM (GFM2b)

266 It should be enough to send one-third of your money to the state. It really should be enough to send 20-25%. They should have to fund everything with taht and let the country exercise free will. Please get rid of most (all?) deductions and let the country expand. The dad hand of government has corrupted everything. I really do fear for our future as a mostly free people. The unending expansion of unearned "benefits" will kill the USA as we knew it. It is already on life support. EVERYTHING the government does MUST be scaled back. There is no money and what little is around is being inflated into worthlessness.
Happy new year:-(

Tim

Posted by: freeTibet with purchase of equal or greater value Tibet at December 31, 2012 04:31 PM (quLHy)

267 John Birch Society?

A bunch of fucking commies.

Posted by: toby928© monarchist at December 31, 2012 04:31 PM (QupBk)

268
197....Right now, there is a new movie getting a lot of publicity about the EVILS of fracking and how it must be stopped or TEOLAWKI will occur.

You mean that new Matt Damon movie, 'Promised Land'?
The one that was funded by the Saudis?
That movie?

Oh yeah...now why would OPEC want to pay for Anti-Natural Gas propaganda...
Hmm, that's a head-scratcher.
Can't imagine why.

Posted by: wheatie at December 31, 2012 04:31 PM (K4wCe)

269 alex, every man paused and held their breath.

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (nqBYe)

270 *sidles over* I have cookies too. Oh can I top off your Val U Rite?


Could you ladies move to the left? Web cam, and all.


It's for the children.

Posted by: fluffy at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (z9HTb)

271 For sparkling wine, Evil Sherry, will be quaffing Ballatore Pink Asti Spumante, then her boyfriend gets his Happy New Year.

Accompanied by with her patented super secret Hot and Spicy Black Eyed Peas with bacon for luck...

In a sauce pan fry 6 strips of thick cut bacon cut into 1 inch pieces until crisp, add 1 large chopped white onion, and cook until the onion turns translucent. Then add 1 can of black eyed peas with Jalapenos and two cans without Jalapenos. I use Trappey's. (If you like Jalapenos, use 2 cans with Jalapenos, 1 Regular...If you LOVE Jalapenos, use 3 cans with Jalapenos...If you loathe Jalapenos, why are you reading my recipe?) I have made this from scratch using raw black eyed peas and adding Jalapenos, but, the canned peas are just as good and less work.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (kXoT0)

272 AtC, sounds totally yummy. Though must skip the booze, just a little and game over. Got milk? Dunk cookies in of course.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (fx1PU)

273 Incidentally, I'm up in Muskoka, and now that Peninsula Lake is finally frozen, we can go ahead and have our traditional New Year's Orphan Toss.

That's the place where they don't smoke marijuana, right?

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (9Qc6B)

274 Only God can judge intent, humans and their governments should confine themselves to punishing wrongful (harmful) deeds.

simple, straight-forward and with 99% less navel-gazing.

Posted by: Secession of the Plebs at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (m6OUa)

275 AnonymousDrivel, your class is prohibited from wielding semi-automatic weapons, and I see here that you didn't take the "Gun-Show Loophole"" perk. You are now making pointing gun-fingers at the others in the room and making "pew-pew" noises with your lips.

Fortunately, this works out. The other people in the room are reflexive cowards who can do nothing better then hid when even a glimmer of crises pops up. Every member of the assembly hides under the desks.

Unfortantly, you failed your savings throw VS media, and you are now being portrayed as having a "Hate-fueled Rampage" through he halls of the senate. The body counts are still coming in.

Posted by: MrShad at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (Xqfwb)

276 Anyone else not give a shit about New Year's? Sometime 6, 7 years ago I stopped caring. Just another date for me.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (HDgX3)

277 :::257
Remember when a troll once referred to us as "crypto-cons"?

That was my favorite.

Rule of thumb: Anyone who uses some formulation of the word "con" as an insult has a sub-100 IQ and the creative horse power of a Saved by the Bell holiday special.

I like to think of myself as a Cock-a-Con.

King of Spunk
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 31, 2012 04:29 PM (0WLla):::


I feel for you.

Posted by: Shaka Con at December 31, 2012 04:33 PM (r1J3n)

278 Oh yeah...now why would OPEC want to pay for Anti-Natural Gas propaganda...
Hmm, that's a head-scratcher.
Can't imagine why. Posted by: wheatie at December 31, 2012 04:31 PM (K4wCe)

Yes, Wheatie, that movie. The Saudis know best.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:33 PM (kXoT0)

279 Breaking: CNBC says no vote in the House tonight.
Wheeeeeeeeee....

Posted by: 2013 National Fiscal Cliff Diving Championships at December 31, 2012 04:33 PM (Ahxbg)

280 sure, and all i have is rump roast.

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 04:33 PM (nqBYe)

281 Actually for that movie, its the UAE that knows best - their bottom line.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:34 PM (fx1PU)

282
So this must be the part where the PTB send us over the cliff so we panic and then announce they have saved us yet again (from what THEY created in the first place).


Dull.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 04:34 PM (1Y+hH)

283 Everybody was cliff cliff diving
Those 'Rats were fast as lightning

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 04:34 PM (HDgX3)

284 That's the place where they don't smoke marijuana, right? Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (9Qc6B)

Nope, that is Muskogee, Oklahoma per Merle Haggard.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:34 PM (kXoT0)

285 269alex, every man paused and held their breath.Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (nqBYe) 270*sidles over* I have cookies too. Oh can I top off your Val U Rite?


Could you ladies move to the left? Web cam, and all.


It's for the children.
Posted by: fluffy at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (z9HTb)or web cam

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 04:35 PM (nqBYe)

286 Boehner in the role of the Professor from Futurama.

"Good news everyone! I saved us from the fiscal cliff! Instead we are just going off a small rise."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:35 PM (fx1PU)

287 I say let us go off the friggin, fracking cliff and let all the enviro weinies and academics find out their grants and funding have vaporized.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:36 PM (kXoT0)

288
Remember when a troll once referred to us as "crypto-cons"?




I know a guy who uses that word. He has a PH.d in English, is 65 years old. He was living in his car until his mom bought him a house.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 31, 2012 04:36 PM (1Y+hH)

289 I feel for you. Posted by: Shaka Con Everyone knows the Queen of Funk is a damn, dirty RINO!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 31, 2012 04:36 PM (0WLla)

290
that's i t i'm going to the store.
curling iron and chocolate something.

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 04:36 PM (nqBYe)

291

Farnsworth!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 04:36 PM (1WM2H)

292 277 -

That's what friends are for.

Posted by: shere khan at December 31, 2012 04:36 PM (TOk1P)

293 Any recommendations for sparkling wine? Preferably sweet.

Asti Spumante! Really yummy stuff!

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at December 31, 2012 04:36 PM (MbXOQ)

294 Would Al Gore be a Chakra Con?

Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 04:37 PM (HzhBE)

295 Crypto-cons, frat-cons,Obama's props, swabbing chops...
Wife just got home, I'm about to be a pepperoni con.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2012 04:37 PM (tkoGU)

296 Ballatore Pink Asti Spumante....it's for the ......

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:37 PM (kXoT0)

297
FWIW, my biggest problem with LaPierre's speech, was that in trying to cast the blame elsewhere, he did in fact drift into that "precrime" metality
"Why if only we had done better at restricting movies and video games."
Really now? Really? So this Gun owner anf Video Game lover has to sit there and say "Great, I can either side with the EFF or NRA, but apparently not both?!"
I think ace strikes a good point here. Sure, the gun was involved in the death of many. Sure Hollywood played a part in shaping a crazy man. Neither one of these however warrents trying to regular exposure of either to the masses. Or put different: Evil will be evil.
Now if you want to sit back and say "Parent's should let 5 year olds play Grand Theft Auto." I'm totally on board, let's say "Bad parents." But this "There oughtta be a law! (and suddenly one passes)" stuff is...strange.

Posted by: tsrblke at December 31, 2012 04:37 PM (GaqMa)

298 I've punched an ACT UP member in the face. I win.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 04:18 PM (Gk3SS)
----

Dulcinea!

Posted by: Conservo-Quixote at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (Y5I9o)

299
I'm waiting for the documentary about the dude shooting up the movie theater during the Batman premiere.
I like dark comedy.

Posted by: ALH at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (eqV3Q)

300 Oh yeah? Well I chose the font.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 04:30 PM (SY2Kh)



Fucking Helvetica.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (Gk3SS)

301 Mad Dog 20/20. With a splash of Sprite. For sparkle.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (Ahxbg)

302 I've never reconciled how actors deriving a living from inhabiting fake characters are allowed such certitude regarding their personal opinions by a public that doesn't know them personally.

They are not pontificating on ANY areas of acknowledged expertise but their groupthink talking points are accepted as gospel.

But then, look who a majority voted for to be their precedent.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (aZ6ew)

303 We need to compile a Cryptonomicon just to keep track of all the liberal buzz-words.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (fx1PU)

304

NBC News chiron:

"US To Go Over Cliff"

oh the drama!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (b8TXQ)

305 Do you all think Kim's ass will still be fine 9 months from now?

Posted by: Kanye Koncerned at December 31, 2012 04:39 PM (HDgX3)

306 303 We need to compile a Cryptonomicon just to keep track of all the liberal buzz-words.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (fx1PU)
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Klaatu, Verata, N...ew taxes!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 31, 2012 04:39 PM (Y5I9o)

307 /\/\/\/\/\/\Honestly I don't think videogames were the best target as they don't seem to be a liberal industry, but you're seriously thinking too rationally. Its not that movies are at fault, its that they film industry is going to blame guns, guns, guns (which are also not at fault) and they must be beaten to the punch.

Posted by: notsomsm at December 31, 2012 04:39 PM (/sbgO)

308 Yes, let's savor our Liberal Hollywood saviors who will tell how to think, to be, to live...

Sean Pennup, all the warmth of a bucket of spit baking in an Arizona saloon.

Matt DAYmoh, an acting range that spans the gamut from constipated to merely uncomfortable...

Mikey Moore Moon Pie, a pimple arcing towards a lancet

Rosie O'Donuts, armed guards for me, but, as for thee, hope you can outrun a bullet

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:42 PM (kXoT0)

309 Though must skip the booze, just a little and game over.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:32 PM (fx1PU)


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Hmmmm.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:42 PM (4ME3G)

310 Its a celebrity's entire job to be a phoney. It's their job. Why does anyone listen to them. They sold their dignity exactly the same as prostitutes. We should treat them like that instead of as stars. Then they would get the message.

Posted by: Sidney Allen Johnson at December 31, 2012 04:43 PM (xAn3Y)

311 Ok, I do like the fact our team does actually believe the stuff we talk about and are thus loath to be seen as attacking the 1st Amendment to defend the 2nd. But seriously, lets not get sucked into the Enemy's frame either.

We aren't proposing a law to ban Hollywierd's blood drenched entertainment. We are just saying "Ya know, it might be a good idea if Hollywood exercised a bit of self restraint and behaved a little more responsibly. Can't we at least have a 'conversation' on this violence in entertainment thing? Is it really a crazy notion that this stuff might be contributing to real violence?"

The 1st Amendment seems to be absolute, both sides in agreement but the 2nd not so much. The equiv situation would be in a totally "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" world where peeps walked around Walmart, parks, etc. with full automatics and RPGs and after some horrible accidents somebody saying, "Ya know, while the 2nd Amendment is sacred and all, can we at least agree folks might could leave the RPGs at home, the AK-47 in the trunk and feel safe enough with a good solid pistol? And while a RTKBA is meaningless if you can't actually shoot once in awhile, could we regulate ranges just a bit so we aren't always hearing em in town?"

Posted by: John Morris at December 31, 2012 04:43 PM (YhRJW)

312 Hello, I'd like to have an argument please...

Posted by: Michale Palin in that skit.. you know the one. at December 31, 2012 04:43 PM (gCa4h)

313 297
FWIW, my biggest problem with LaPierre's speech, was that in trying to cast the blame elsewhere, he did in fact drift into that "precrime" me(n)tality


My take on LaPierre was that if you are going to blame an inanimate object for the actions of a human, of all the possible variables, why pick the gun? Why not pick video games, movies, arcade games, etc. Why pick the inanimate object you happen to object to - a gun - and not the game or DVD your son or daughter already has in your own home?

We know why.


Posted by: ChampionCapua at December 31, 2012 04:43 PM (KZi9D)

314 Do you all think Kim's ass will still be fine 9 months from now?
Posted by: Kanye Koncerned at December 31, 2012 04:39 PM (HDgX3)


FUCKITY, FUCK, FUCK

man, their is some vile shit out there dude, I'm not going to let my kid see all that.

and for wonderful, my kids Mom done did a sex flick with some bro' that is not me


how am I going to sort this out.


?

you guys are smart, throw me a life line

Posted by: Kany West, now a parent at December 31, 2012 04:44 PM (jfSqj)

315 It's Only Make Believe™

Posted by: Kanye Twitty at December 31, 2012 04:46 PM (KZi9D)

316 "it might be a good idea if Hollywood exercised a bit of self restraint
and behaved a little more responsibly. Can't we at least have a
'conversation' on this violence in entertainment thing? Is it really a
crazy notion that this stuff might be contributing to real violence?"

I don't even think we have to do this. All we need to do is say "you are 100% against guns yet you glorify them therefore you are an idiot and an asshole. You should keep your ignorant mouth shut and collect your 'hard earned' money or we will make fun of you for being an idiot and an asshole."

Posted by: notsomsm at December 31, 2012 04:46 PM (/sbgO)

317
Posted by: ChampionCapua at December 31, 2012 04:43 PM (KZi9D)

Yeah, except there's significant Venn Diagram overlap with "People who want to Ban guns" and "People who want to ban M rated games."
So LaPierre choose poorly in his attempt to shift the debate.
It's not unlike this fiscal cliff thing. The Democrats want to Raise taxes and cut defense, so being able to do one or both isn't a bad thing for them. Same thing applies here. Those wackjobs now get a fresh talking point in the war on my copies of Assassin's Creed.

Posted by: tsrblke at December 31, 2012 04:47 PM (GaqMa)

318 It's been a bit, but, a few years ago, a man in a rage used an automobile to run over and kill several folks on sidewalks at a Farmer's Market venue in Cali. Did we ban autos? Do we need a permit to buy one? No, because, as dangerous as cars/trucks/RVs or whatever the vehicle may be, they are shrouded in multi-million dollar ad campaigns and the unions might suffer if the auto industry were somehow blamed.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:47 PM (kXoT0)

319 Preposterous.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 31, 2012 04:31 PM (QupBk)

True enough, we consciously know what is real and what isn't and know enough tofurnish 'real world' context,but memories are memories and stored and retrievedas such.

Google 'physiological effects of television viewing'. Watching television evokes brain activity similar to staring at a blank wall. Note I'm not condemning TV/media, but there emphatically is causality between TV viewing anddesired (or undesired)response.Public opinion is being manipulated all the time: ideas propagated and promoted, views swayed, opinions altered, desires evoked.Obama's reelection is a good example of media manipulation since the true-world facts of his first term certainly didn't support a second.

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2012 04:47 PM (vtiE6)

320 If the men around here are frat cons, does that make the women sor cons?

Posted by: Northern Lurker at December 31, 2012 04:48 PM (sCK+c)

321 I wish I were cool enough to be a frat con: fiscally responsible yet sexually out of control (Bored to Death is a funny show).

Posted by: notsomsm at December 31, 2012 04:49 PM (/sbgO)

322 No, because, as dangerous as cars/trucks/RVs or whatever the vehicle may be, they are shrouded in multi-million dollar ad campaigns and the unions might suffer if the auto industry were somehow blamed.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 31, 2012 04:47 PM (kXoT0)


--------------------------------------------


I think you've just resolved all of the gun problems. Unionize all gun makers.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 04:49 PM (4ME3G)

323 "Any recommendations for sparkling wine? Preferably sweet."

a good Moscato, very tasty.

Posted by: Secession of the Plebs at December 31, 2012 04:50 PM (m6OUa)

324 Team SMOD= Apocalyptocons

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2012 04:50 PM (tkoGU)

325 The Entertainment Industry is composed of chameleons, professional chameleons. They will be anyone if you pay them. Shallow, unprincipled, for sale. Only fools would listen to what they have to say about the world. Who would be so stupid and foolish? Oh... the public? The ones that have imaginary relationships with pixels? Hope they don't vote.

Posted by: tubal at December 31, 2012 04:51 PM (BoE3Z)

326 Do you all think Kim's ass will still be fine 9 months from now?

Given her current aspect ratio, she'll have the silhouette of a submarine in 9 months.

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 04:52 PM (6TB1Z)

327 TFG and Hollywood will make this illegal soon. It's a shame, I really dig the song. This and "Blazing Saddles".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLG66ER0UUM





Posted by: MINEMINEMINE!! at December 31, 2012 04:57 PM (vLHZU)

328 Those wackjobs now get a fresh talking point in the war on my copies of Assassin's Creed.
Posted by: tsrblke at December 31, 2012 04:47 PM (GaqMa)


Perhaps, but if those whackjobs are on the Left, their talking point comes courtesy of a man they revile and slander at will, Wayne LaPierre... against an industry (at least Hollywood) they use as a bank.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at December 31, 2012 04:57 PM (KZi9D)

329 Fortunately, studies show these idiot celebs pretty much only impress or persuade each other with their "stances" and "causes" on matters political. Now when you get to what they are wearing, that makes an impression on more sheeple.

As to KK's pregnancy, I agree with pep @326. Gonna be a big momma.

Posted by: eureka! at December 31, 2012 05:09 PM (HPRku)

330 It's not the illogical leap that Hollywood and the Left (BIRM) make regarding precrime but rather the unserious way they approach firearms in their profession. They're filling their bank accounts by offering a false, ridiculous reality. Meanwhile back in the real world the rest of us without a security detail face the consequences of being disarmed. Fuck them and their PR inspired concern.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue, currently trapped in Canada at December 31, 2012 05:10 PM (w8EDn)

331 They still think anybody but the most vapid of people really care what they think.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 31, 2012 05:14 PM (DoZD+)

332 "you guys are smart, throw me a life line "

when you hold that baby in your arms, you too will just know that's it not your seed.

[adapted from the greatest 2012 carolla podcast moment]

Posted by: Wyclef Jean at December 31, 2012 05:21 PM (I88Jc)

333 Unfortunately the media,or press, is not free. They are bankrolled by "right thinking people" and are the venue for their special ideas of civilized behavior. They will spout the vitriol and outrage that their masters feel appropriate.

I just got done thinking about this issue, arms, about as hard as I have thought about anything in a while. Being a moron, it is difficult. Some conclusions that I have come to are that: 1. Guns don't kill. People who are sick, ill, stupid, or evil kill others with whatever weapons are to hand. Guns are one method, but not the only method; 2. Guns prevent people in the first category from killing people. See crime rates in "gun free zones" and "no gun cities" for proof. If that school had a police resource officer, the event may have been mitigated; 3. If the government wants to take guns away from citizens, the constitution will have to be amended, or a patently unconstitutional law will have to be passed, and enforced against an angry armed group that may oppose them with umbrage.

The media's masters believe that they have the answers for all of us proles and will spin each other up and cast aspersions on people who believe that the constitution and its bill of rights is an antiquated, quaint, or evil document. The irony is that their ability to spout garbage is the first right protected by the document they love to despise.

In any event, I will endevour to expand on this as see if ace is willing to post it.

Posted by: Maj O at December 31, 2012 05:29 PM (TwbSE)

334 "When pointy sticks outlawed, only bad Ogs have pointy sticks"

Posted by: Og (right then, and right now) at December 31, 2012 05:30 PM (HVtRc)

335 We need a plan to neutralize Hollywood. They are tools, but they are tools with incredible influence entirely unrelated to their education or intelligence level. The media gives them free publicity when they promote what the media wants highlighted. End result, influential tools that are easily manipulated by the media. Perhaps they will destroy themselves by continuing to make bad movies that no one wants to see. In the coming economy who will waste money on poor entertainment or better still, pass it out so easily to their teenagers?

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at December 31, 2012 05:44 PM (vA9kU)

336 8 Well, it isn't a good faith thing these people are doing.


They are attempting to deceive the populace into disarming itself for the sake of the Leftist's revolution.


It's not yet gotten through to any of us, yet, just how deep the betrayal runs. It was barely tolerable before, when we thought they were just incapable of simple mathematics.


We, as a whole, ought to understand by now that this is an actively malicious movement, these perpetual Leftist outrages, and that these people are intent on setting us up for failure, and subjugation.


o.O It's a scary thought but it's true.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 31, 2012 03:34 PM (pcaFm)


Good post.

I agree. For the sake of appearances and fetishistic devotion to political correctness, we have hipster douche/metrosexual/pearl clutching liberal twink demographic prostrating itself, incestuously, to Mom Government. For our own good, the rest of us are expected to follow suit in the name of ......just because.

To which I would reply: Fuck off and die.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 31, 2012 06:07 PM (6oBI1)

337
Happy New Year Ace and crew. Be strong, be courageous, and walk forward into the New Year.

---- surfin

" It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end… because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing… this shadow. Even darkness must pass."
SAM, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

" It was rather splendid to be wearing a blade made in Gondolin for the goblin-wars of which so many songs had sung; and also he had noticed that such weapons made a great impression on goblins that came upon them suddenly.
“Go back?” he thought. “No good at all! Go sideways? Impossible! Go forward? Only thing to do! On we go!” So up he got, and trotted along with his little sword held in front of him and one hand feeling the wall, and his heart all of a patter and a pitter. "
- J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit

"No matter what form the dragon may take, it is of this mysterious passage past him, or into his jaws, that stories of any depth will always be concerned to tell. "
- Flannery O’Connor

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at December 31, 2012 07:16 PM (vA9kU)

338 I'd like to see the list of Republicans who are on the record stating their opposition to all new federal legislation regarding "Sandy Point" anti-gun laws.

Put up or shut up.

(that list will be short)

Posted by: 13times at December 31, 2012 09:08 PM (h6XiD)

339 The reason celebrities go in for ads where they repeat - repeat - repeat - the - the - the - same - same - words as each other is they are mimicking what they know works. Where they live, if you see one word out of line, people crowd around repeating the same talking points at you angrily, like angry birds pecking on a low status bird, till you give in and agree to everything. That is the mentality of the Hollywood elite: our crowd is always right and good; the dissenting individual is evil and wrong. The ads put the view in place of a dissenter who will be brought to obedience. It's not about reasoning, it's about humanity's inability to stand up to many-on-one pressure. (Especially combined with ridicule and long term career consequences for stubborn dissenters.)

It is very appropriate to show that these ideologically uniform moral authorities are hypocrites. They are all for modeling gun violence when it profits them.

Posted by: The Lightworker at December 31, 2012 09:57 PM (sQ9qN)

340 Besides all the typos, I didn't make that clear enough. The celebrity mass attacks rely on the power of a mass of moral attackers who are all uniformly correct and will not allow their positions or personal qualities to be questioned, only imitated and approved. All goodness is with the mob.

The video counter-attacks that. It shows that the individuals that make up the mob profit by messages that conflict with what they are saying. Those who present themselves as a choir of perfect ones are no such thing.

This is the right answer. Celebrity mobbing attacks should always be met with mocking videos like this.

Posted by: The Lightworker at December 31, 2012 10:07 PM (sQ9qN)

341 Let's see .. Know nothing Hollywood degenerates saying what they're paid to say ...

Shocked I tell you! Shocked I am!

Posted by: Call me Ishmael at January 01, 2013 07:40 AM (p4U6S)

342 Frankly,

In the future, actors need to be put on a leash and kept there. Too much opportunity for these weak-minded and little-educated people to control the population because people really think someone who acts the part of the hero/heroine really is one. The old studios understood this reality.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at January 01, 2013 08:48 AM (vA9kU)






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