About that gun law enforcement thing...[Purp]

US govt source 1
US govt source 2
US govt source 3



Nutshell:

  • 70,000+ NICS (instant check) rejections/yr

  • 4,000+/yr deemed a violation of law and referred for prosecution

  • Under 200/yr actually prosecuted

Prosecutions have DECLINED under Obama too.

Govt = NOT SERIOUS

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:10 PM



Comments

1 wooohooo

Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 08:14 PM (Gmp2Z)

2 We are rapidly getting to the point when we have an infinity of laws of which none are enforced.


Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:14 PM (V70Uh)

3 This doesn't look like a football thread

Posted by: The dude at December 30, 2012 08:14 PM (tw6Ar)

4 they're only serious about disarming the law-abiding citizens, not their base

Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 08:15 PM (Gmp2Z)

5 "The laws don't work! We need more laws!"
"Um, the laws aren't being enforced. That's why they don't work."
"Exactly! That's why we need more laws!"

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 30, 2012 08:15 PM (o1kXv)

6 I keep slamming my O-damnO voter peeps and the few on my side of the tracks that this has ZERO to do with gun control. It has everything to do with the second word: Control. Kapesh?

Posted by: CalyxtheCommoner at December 30, 2012 08:16 PM (DXkRD)

7 Lets see a map of those guys

Posted by: E.stoner at December 30, 2012 08:17 PM (NcSi2)

8
The Colorful Text....what does it mean??

Posted by: Pecan Scandi ala Mode at December 30, 2012 08:18 PM (O4hDA)

9 Enacting more laws = "POLITICIAN JOE SMITH CARES, LOOK WHAT HE VOTED FOR"

Enforcing existing laws = statistics nobody ever reads about

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 30, 2012 08:18 PM (HDgX3)

10 I was amused a few days ago when I read that the Chinese want the U.S. to disarm us. The irony. It burns. They, of all people should understand Mao's comment "Political power come out of the barrel of a gun."

Cold. Dead. Fingers.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:19 PM (V70Uh)

11 For the state, selective enforcement is a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 30, 2012 08:19 PM (79AXR)

12 Less than 5% prosecution rate....my that government efficiency is impressive.

Posted by: BignJames at December 30, 2012 08:19 PM (HtUkt)

13 I mean, sure, it's a Purp thang.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi furniture Magnate at December 30, 2012 08:19 PM (O4hDA)

14 OT Now Hillary has been admitted to the hospital with a blood clot.

My former liberal daughter says, "It sounds like they are trying to kill her."

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 08:20 PM (GoIUi)

15 Hillary didn't have a concussion. She had a stroke.


Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:20 PM (V70Uh)

16 The VRWC is trying to kill Hillary?

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 08:21 PM (hc3eM)

17 WOLVERINES!!! mfos

Posted by: Knightbrigade at December 30, 2012 08:21 PM (Q76p7)

18 We are rapidly getting to the point when we have an infinity of laws of which none are enforced.>>

Against their friends yes. Enemies get double enforcement. Or maybe it's just whimsical enforcement.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 30, 2012 08:22 PM (Y6HTt)

19 I miss my armory. So hard to get your stuff trans-continental where it becomes recreational and not essential for your family's survival.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi Sten Gunnar at December 30, 2012 08:22 PM (O4hDA)

20 Hillary didn't have a concussion. She had a stroke.

Wouldn't surprise me. Of course, this group of assmonkeys couldn't properly handle that but instead had to try and lie to everyone about it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 30, 2012 08:22 PM (o1kXv)

21 Maybe Hillary and Hugo can bump into each other at the gates of Hell.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:23 PM (V70Uh)

22 Oh hello Faith.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:24 PM (IvVLN)

23 Facts are nice and all but IRRELEVANT in the world we live in now.

Posted by: rukiddingme? at December 30, 2012 08:24 PM (MbeEN)

24 again?

Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 08:25 PM (Gmp2Z)

25 Hugo's in my dead pool for 2013

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 08:25 PM (hc3eM)

26
There are tactical advantages to living at the end of the road where you command the high ground. BTW, fuck Bob Costas.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi Sten Gunnar at December 30, 2012 08:25 PM (O4hDA)

27 Hugo might not even make it to 2013.


Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:26 PM (V70Uh)

28 Not to play devil's advocate (even though I owe him a few favors), but I recall reading over the years that mean people who are turned down are later approved due to having the same name as someone with a felony conviction, etc.
just the same, I doubt the Barky Administration is that eager to enforce laws that might punish, you know, actual bad people.
Oh, Joe Biden just dropped by. Here's a tip: microwave the library paste for 15 seconds to get that creamy consistancy that makes people who lied about begin in the top half of their law school class giggle with delight.

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 08:26 PM (jDjlM)

29 Remember, comrades, an unarmed proletariat is a docile proletariat!


Augment that with free birth control and abortion, and throw in legalized marihuana, and you have a mellow docile proletariat.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 30, 2012 08:28 PM (Cnqmv)

30 2 We are rapidly getting to the point when we have an infinity of laws of which none are enforced.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:14 PM (V70Uh)
-----------------------------------------------
Soft Tyrrany in a nutshell.

Posted by: chaz at December 30, 2012 08:28 PM (sSNkG)

31 but I recall reading over the years that mean people who are turned down
are later approved due to having the same name as someone with a felony
conviction, etc.


That's the 70,000+ group. NOT the 4,000+ that were genuine and referred for prosecution.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 08:28 PM (hc3eM)

32 Oh, you've got to go over to gateway pundit and see the "product description" that a national dealer of AR magazines just updated. Blistering commentary.

Posted by: Derak at December 30, 2012 08:28 PM (lkjWK)

33 Choomer wants chaos and anarchy... gun control is just another step in his plan for this shit.

Just wait until the "Free Shit Army" starts getting cut off from their free shit...

Posted by: Mjölnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at December 30, 2012 08:28 PM (Jls4P)

34 Yes, BC, hello to Faith and her lower body. The upper body and her brain are lacking in, ummm, gravitas?

Posted by: Pecan Scandi, Low and be Holding at December 30, 2012 08:30 PM (O4hDA)

35 "That implies an initial false positive rate of roughly 94.2 percent."
from an article by John Lott.
http://tinyurl.com/bjakkb8

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 08:30 PM (jDjlM)

36 Her upper body looks just fine to me. And what the hell do I care about her brain? I'm objectifying her here. A brain is an impediment.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:31 PM (IvVLN)

37 OK, I realize that I am a moron. But the GOP still has the House. The gun-grabbers in the Senate can pass any gun-grabber bill they want. I just cannot see Boner bringing it up for a vote. That's why TFG gave it to Bidet. So it could die.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:31 PM (V70Uh)

38 I sent emails to both senators the other day, listing reasons for upholding the 2A, etc and asking them to oppose FrankenFeinsteeeeeeen's proposal(s) in particular.

Yeah, we both made, ahem, purchases, because money talks.....alot louder than words.

Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 08:31 PM (Gmp2Z)

39 Ummmmm....where'd the comments go?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:33 PM (IvVLN)

40 James Earl Jones sez: " Fuck with me, Bitch!"

Posted by: Chas at December 30, 2012 08:33 PM (9AxVP)

41 1st?

Posted by: owlpellets at December 30, 2012 08:33 PM (dmEoV)

42 And now they're back.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:33 PM (IvVLN)

43 If something were to *happen* to Hillary, would Bill blame Obama and unleash the political Kraken on him? While Bill and Hillary probably don't care about each other personally, it has been a strong political alliance...

Would make for a fun next four years...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2012 08:34 PM (Vk2pI)

44 The blog software has been taking hostages lately...

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 08:34 PM (hc3eM)

45 OK, I realize that I am a moron. But the GOP still has the House. The gun-grabbers in the Senate can pass any gun-grabber bill they want. I just cannot see Boner bringing it up for a vote. That's why TFG gave it to Bidet. So it could die.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:31 PM (V70Uh)


THIS is why the idiots who think there is no difference between the Dems and the GOP are idiots. While they may be squishes and incompetent, "Speaker Boehner" is still vastly better than having a "Speaker Pelosi."

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2012 08:35 PM (Vk2pI)

46 43 TPH--now I'm smiling!

Thanks!

Company's here, gotta run...

Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 08:35 PM (Gmp2Z)

47 whups...

Posted by: owlpellets at December 30, 2012 08:36 PM (dmEoV)

48 So is Hillary actually ill?

Can the govt really get away with fake concussions and fake blood clots just to avoid testifying?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 30, 2012 08:37 PM (ZPrif)

49 I keep telling you people: He's NOT going to take the legal guns.

Oh wait.

Posted by: Xavier at December 30, 2012 08:37 PM (iiJOe)

50 re 31 PurpAv: not to argue with you. Lott discusses why many legitimate denials are not prosecuted. But let's face it, real crinimals don't bother with that sort of thing. They either buy them from other criminals or work for Acorn.

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 08:37 PM (jDjlM)

51 The House GOP is the only reason Obama wasn't able to ram through massive gun control 24 hrs after connecticut.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 30, 2012 08:38 PM (ZPrif)

52 Can the govt really get away with fake concussions and fake blood clots just to avoid testifying?

William Casey had a sudden inoperable fatal brain tumor when he was DCI. Happened about a week before he was due to testify on Iran/Contra.

These things always seem to coincide with being scheduled to testify.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 08:39 PM (hc3eM)

53 A blood clot has Hillary Clinton.

Developing.....

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 30, 2012 08:39 PM (BVkEs)

54
It's not that the govt. isn't serious. It's that the point of gun control isn't to deny criminals their guns - it's to keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

They're pretty serious about that!

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 30, 2012 08:39 PM (qkP36)

55 I filled out the form to purchase a gun at 10:30 this morning; got the call that it was complete at 5pm. Seller at gun show said CO governor Hickenlooper is deliberately putting the brakes on processing applications. I tend to believe this because previously it has taken less than an hour to pass the background check.

The Tanner Gun Show drew thousands of people this weekend. As I left, I saw 4 protesters at the stoplight nearby (ban assault weapons, no more dead children, yada yada yada)

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 30, 2012 08:40 PM (8sCoq)

56 My only contributions to the gun debate are as follows:

1) Prosecutors should _not_ be able to drop the firearms portion of the charges when working out plea-bargains with criminals. The firearm offense must ALWAYS be prosecuted.

2) Using a firearm in commission of a crime should count as one strike on its own--that is, if you rob a bank using a gun, the bank robbery is one strike and the fact that you used a gun is a second strike.

The third is something that the tyrant voted against when he was in the state senate in Illinois: membership in a gang should be an aggravating factor in getting the death penalty (useless in Illinois now, as they've abolished the death penalty, but would work on states not bent on heir own annihilation)--if you're a member of an organization that exists only to commit crime, you ought to be more eligible for the death penalty than some schmo off the street.

Treat gun crime and gun criminals as though they were serious problems, and lay off of law-abiding gun owners. These two rules would also have the benefit of making David Gregory a felon with one strike on him, which would be awesome...

Posted by: Palandine at December 30, 2012 08:40 PM (g7D8V)

57 What I'm afraid of is that they are going to throw all sorts of way out there gun control stuff at us in a form of !Squirrel!. We all write/call/email our reps, comment on blogs (cough), and carry on like mad. Then some much milder yet still agenda promoting law gets passed and we fall for it. Thus, inch by inch we are led down the garden path.

Posted by: Pentangle at December 30, 2012 08:40 PM (Yu4ih)

58 The Tanner Gun Show drew thousands of people this weekend. As I left, I saw 4 protesters at the stoplight nearby (ban assault weapons, no more dead children, yada yada yada) + a couple friends + water balloons + a slingshot


Some assembly required

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:42 PM (IvVLN)

59 wait, they just decided today that she had a stroke? That's like Hillary taking ten days to figure out that that wasn't a mayonaisse stain on the housekeeper's shoes.
must have been medical sloppiness:

"Based on some of our internal reviews, there was just some sloppiness." --Barack Obama
lawsuit to follow..?

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 08:42 PM (jDjlM)

60 The House GOP is the only reason Obama wasn't able to ram through massive gun control 24 hrs after connecticut, but instead will have to wait until after the Super Bowl.

When noted gun experts on this very, who get an actual cut of all sales, are already ticking off on their fingers what major rights we'll be willing to give up in the grand compromise, I'm not willing to blame the members of Congress for our problem.

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 08:43 PM (qaVK+)

61 That has nothing to do with the Reichstag Fire. We must seize total now to stop another fire.

Posted by: Obamao at December 30, 2012 08:44 PM (JtyGg)

62
"Kill Team Six checking in, you got any dot gov's you need dead?"

"Negative, Kill Team Six. The situation is under control. You might evenhave a vacation coming up. It be that good."

"We that effecative, Six?"

"Seriously, KTSix, you ain't got shit left to do. Looks like the civilians have sterilized the area for you."

"Well, Sierra Hotel for the civilians, returning to base. KT Six out . . . some days you just get lucky."

Posted by: Chas at December 30, 2012 08:44 PM (9AxVP)

63 Is the clot in Hillary's tongue?

Posted by: no good deed at December 30, 2012 08:44 PM (mjR67)

64 Laces out!

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 08:45 PM (KhZSt)

65 Rosebud ...

Posted by: Hillary at December 30, 2012 08:45 PM (QupBk)

66 "That implies an initial false positive rate of roughly 94.2 percent."
>>

I find it hard to beleive the statatician John lot said
there was a false positive rate of 94% for all checks. Though out of the 70,000 persons rejected above 4,000 is pretty close to 6% of that limited group. and 70,000 is not near 94% of 16.5 mil. Stats are a bitch.

<The FBI said it
fielded nearly 16.5 million queries from firearms sellers last year,
checking that customers buying guns did not have criminal records or
other red flags that made them ineligible to purchase weapons.>

Just wanted the total checks for 2011 but first hit was at Huffpo and quit looking for a different link
http://tinyurl.com/am72fet

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 30, 2012 08:46 PM (Y6HTt)

67 This post is so untrue!
I'm totally serious about demolishing the rubble of the Constitution.

Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at December 30, 2012 08:46 PM (7QU6R)

68 #57 absolutely....
That's why NOT ONE inch should be given!!

Posted by: Knightbrigade at December 30, 2012 08:47 PM (Q76p7)

69 re 56 Paladine: back in the early 1980s here in the NYC area, there was a commercial feature Mayor Ed Koch: with a jail cell behind him, he waggled a finger at the camera and said (referring to a new law): "If you get caught with an illegal un in New York, you're going to jail for one year, no ifs ands or buts." (JJ Sefton might remember this one, I think he's also from the NYC area.)
The result? A guy facing five to fifteen years for armed robbery would plead down to a year for illegal possession of a gun. Big improvement that.

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 08:47 PM (jDjlM)

70 Concussions, blood clots, incompetence. Yeah she's ready.

Posted by: Hillary 2016 Campaign at December 30, 2012 08:48 PM (BVkEs)

71 Redskins-Cowboys gonna make it awful hard not to watch NBC tonight.

Also: the reason gun prosecutions are down is because they disproportionately target criminals. And those criminals are disproportionately black.

I don't have to check and I'm not going to pre-emptivly denounce myself.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 08:48 PM (I2LwF)

72 re 63: I thought the clot was working for NBC.

Okay, I'm bad.

Posted by: mallfly at December 30, 2012 08:48 PM (jDjlM)

73 FL has a 15-20-life law for people who use a gun in the commission of a felony

15 for possessing
20 for discharging
life for hitting someone

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 08:49 PM (hc3eM)

74 Making baklava = winning!

Posted by: Y-not at December 30, 2012 08:49 PM (5H6zj)

75 "Mere licked."

All are prey, to the Huma'n condition.

Posted by: Hillary von Goethe at December 30, 2012 08:50 PM (qaVK+)

76 It occurred to me that the Libs are throwing out all this gun-grabber shit as a way to negotiate it away as part of the "grand bargain" in which they don't have to cut any spending.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:50 PM (V70Uh)

77 The 4473 form, and anything associated with it, can't be used to prosecute, since the person is required to fill it out or go to jail.

It becomes privileged testimony, and cannot be used as evidence.

These crime only get prosecuted if the felon involved opens his stupid mouth and confesses. If he just keeps his mouth shut, none of this can be used as evidence of anything.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 30, 2012 08:50 PM (wYVte)

78 Regarding Hillary:

Two weeks is what it took my grandson to recover from 2 concussions, back-to-back. He was kept at home with no electronics, long conversations, television, etc. But he wasn't Secretary of State.

This supposedly showed up on a routine check-up today. Routine on Sunday?

Why aren't we getting doctor's reports? When Bill had a bypass, we had doctors giving reports every few hours. Why aren't we hearing from doctors?

So, is she really sick, is she hiding from doing the testimony, or is she hiding from Obama?

And where are those survivors from Benghazi? By now one would think someone would have found at least one of them. Are they hiding, too?

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 08:50 PM (GoIUi)

79 It occurred to me that the Libs are throwing out all this gun-grabber shit as a way to negotiate it away as part of the "grand bargain" in which they don't have to cut any spending.
Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:50 PM (V70Uh)

Maybe, but I don't see them negotiating anything, they want it all.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 08:52 PM (l86i3)

80 Trust nothing from the HuffPo unless they link a report directly. They referenced a phone conversation with someone from the FBI in that article. Phone conversations == bullshit.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 08:53 PM (hc3eM)

81 BCochran, objectifying Hillary? Go back and look at the velvet click.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 08:53 PM (t9Q9e)

82 5:02 in the 1st Q and Romo has been intercepted twice so far

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 30, 2012 08:53 PM (8sCoq)

83 So is Hillary actually ill?



Can the govt really get away with fake concussions and fake blood clots just to avoid testifying?


Could be. Either one, i.e. her testimony OR a stroke could torpedo her chances in '16.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2012 08:53 PM (6TB1Z)

84 The 4473 form, and anything associated with it, can't be used to
prosecute, since the person is required to fill it out or go to jail.>>

I'm "required" to fill out IRS forms every year I think if I lie on them they probably use them in my prosecution.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 30, 2012 08:54 PM (Y6HTt)

85 81 BCochran, objectifying Hillary? Go back and look at the velvet click.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 08:53 PM (t9Q9e)




That's just sick.


*BARF*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:54 PM (IvVLN)

86 And where are those survivors from Benghazi? By now one would think someone would have found at least one of them. Are they hiding, too?
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 08:50 PM (GoIUi)

You sure have a lot of questions ma'am, please come with us.

Posted by: DHS at December 30, 2012 08:54 PM (l86i3)

87 since the person is required to fill it out or go to jail.

Bullshit. They can fill it out honestly, and simply be denied on the spot by the FFL if they answer yes to any question.

There is NO PENALTY for NOT lying on a 4473. The worst that happens is you're denied without a NCS check even being run.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 08:55 PM (hc3eM)

88 It is my THEORY that Hillary had a stroke. No evidence. Just suspicions.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:56 PM (V70Uh)

89 Okay, BCochran is still sober.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 08:56 PM (t9Q9e)

90 So, is she really sick, is she hiding from doing the testimony, or is she hiding from Obama?

"I have a terrific headache." It's Warm Springs all over again.

The black sailor is strapping on his accordion.

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 08:56 PM (qaVK+)

91 80
I only really wanted a ballpark for total checks. But since there was a number I included a link and the mention of where it came from to protect anyone else from clicking it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 30, 2012 08:57 PM (Y6HTt)

92 89 Okay, BCochran is still sober.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 08:56 PM (t9Q9e)




Unfortunately.


*eyes bottle of alcoholic maple syrup*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:57 PM (IvVLN)

93 Nobody has reported she had a stroke.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 30, 2012 08:58 PM (ZPrif)

94
*eyes bottle of alcoholic maple syrup*
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:57 PM (IvVLN)


Have you put a dent in that yet?

Posted by: DHS at December 30, 2012 08:58 PM (l86i3)

95 Have you put a dent in that yet?

Posted by: DHS at December 30, 2012 08:58 PM (l86i3)




Drank about 1/3 of it.


It's terrible.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 08:59 PM (IvVLN)

96 We're still boned, aren't we? *checks sky for SMOD*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 08:59 PM (UOM48)

97 Buzzsaw:

The IRS is only a government agency when it wants to be.

Your 1040 is merely your reported income. It's the unreported income they can harm you for.

US Customs made the mistake of trying to use the IRS to bust a drug smuggler in the 1990s ... he showed up at tax court, and made the judge order him to report his income.

He did so, reporting a gigantic figure, and admitting it was drug income, and BTW, how much tax do I owe? The judge gave him an enormous figure, and he calmly wrote a check for that amount.

And then left the country. No one could touch him, as he had paid his taxes in full, and his testimony about his income source was privileged.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 30, 2012 09:00 PM (wYVte)

98
Govt = NOT SERIOUS
So I'm good with my trillion watt gatling laser?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 30, 2012 09:00 PM (+9AX9)

99 I see that some cons are on Twitter, praying for Hillary's recovery. Maybe these past few years have hardened my heart, and maybe that's not good, but I'm not praying for her. Especially after the way her supporters and fellow travellers enthusiastically wish for my (as well as anyone to the right of Barack Obama's) death.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 30, 2012 09:02 PM (yJYwC)

100 As I said in the last thread, I don't wish ill on Hillary.

Reading what libs have had to say about GHW Boooosh is so sickening it's frightening. Wishing the old fellow to die and burn in hell with Hitler?

Hope she fully recovers, and still loses in 2016.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:02 PM (UOM48)

101 I see that some cons are on Twitter, praying for Hillary's recovery. Maybe these past few years have hardened my heart, and maybe that's not good, but I'm not praying for her. Especially after the way her supporters and fellow travellers enthusiastically wish for my (as well as anyone to the right of Barack Obama's) death.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 30, 2012 09:02 PM (yJYwC)

So, what are they saying about GHWB

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:03 PM (l86i3)

102 Possible title for Hillary Clinton's biography - "One Witness Too Many."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:03 PM (t9Q9e)

103 So, do you think Hillary did a "William Holden" and in her drunken state, tripped and fell and hit her head on a night stand? Maybe she really had a concussion. OTH, if she had a stroke, would the symptoms be any different? If she had a concussion from a fall, there would be bruising. As Charles Krauthammer said, there is no explanation, no truth.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:03 PM (V70Uh)

104
It's terrible
I had a taste of that once and I agree.
On pancakes it may be another tasty treat.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 30, 2012 09:04 PM (+9AX9)

105 Harley, I think that comes under a different law (one of Newton's, IINM). But sadly, them being fundamentally unserious about prosecuting actual criminals has no bearing on how serious they will be with simple cases like yours.


Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 09:04 PM (qaVK+)

106 It's terrible
I had a taste of that once and I agree.
On pancakes it may be another tasty treat.
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 30, 2012 09:04 PM (+9AX9)


That bottle of booze single handedly sparked a pancake thread the other day.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:05 PM (l86i3)

107 I'm tanned, hair flat-ironed, rested and ready to assume my mother's seat on the Senate from NY.

I'm ummmmm.....really, really.....like smart, too.

And all those sluts claiming my daddy touched them and raped them and stuff, well, they're just lying liars who lie. Right, Mommy?

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at December 30, 2012 09:05 PM (UOM48)

108 I actually hope Hillary Clinton does recover. So she can fully witness the destruction her party has wrought upon this country. Yeah I am mean...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:05 PM (t9Q9e)

109
comatus at December 30, 2012 09:04 PM
Forgot that those aren't regulated by BATF.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 30, 2012 09:05 PM (+9AX9)

110 Possible title for Hillary Clinton's biography - "One Witness Too Many."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:03 PM (t9Q9e)


I like it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:06 PM (l86i3)

111 Omfg. Trying to watch the game. Boy BFF on phone and won't shut up about in law drama. Swear I am going to scanners him through the phone.

Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at December 30, 2012 09:07 PM (Gk3SS)

112 You may notice that I am studiously avoiding saying anything about Hillary, following that old adage.

Posted by: Y-not at December 30, 2012 09:07 PM (5H6zj)

113 My crazy lib s-i-l (the Life Coach) claims she spoke with my dead f-i-l and got financial advice.

Anyone here that bat-shit crazy who can channel Vince Foster?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:07 PM (UOM48)

114 Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at December 30, 2012 09:07 PM (Gk3SS)

Maybe someone is at the door?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:08 PM (l86i3)

115 I am not giving up one gun to these evil leftist bastards!. (takes toe, draws line in the sand).

Come and get them!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 09:09 PM (MJlUG)

116 Jane D'oh, since you are too nice. May I wish the beyond the grave financial advice impoverishes them?

Alexthechick. Scanner over the phone = no mess. Its like Gallagher and watermelons except its your brains.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:09 PM (t9Q9e)

117 I pray for Hillary's redemption. But, there is no redemption without repentance.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:09 PM (V70Uh)

118 Anyone here that bat-shit crazy who can channel Vince Foster?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:07 PM (UOM4

I think any ron that could channel would be chatting with Marilyn Monroe.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:10 PM (l86i3)

119 I am not giving up one gun to these evil leftist bastards!. (takes toe, draws line in the sand).

Come and get them!
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 09:09 PM (MJlUG)


I visited your hanging tree in Langtry Texas.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:11 PM (l86i3)

120 Maybe someone is at the door?



Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:08 PM (l86i3)



Oh I have no compunction about just saying yeah I'm done talking to you and hanging up. It's just that he's going on and on and on like a 12 yo girl and doesn't want to hear any suggestions. This is further proof that he's way more of a girl than I am.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 09:12 PM (Gk3SS)

121 Well, all I have to say is that they should have some doctors out pronto to discuss Hillary's condition.

It is absolutely unbelievable to me that we have heard from no doctors in the last couple of weeks.

What if she isn't in the hospital? What if she is on the lam?

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 09:12 PM (GoIUi)

122 Purp...just saw your comments over at Protein Wisdom.

I, don't know why, but I had gotten away from stopping by there on a daily basis.I think sometimes I go in too much for frivolous stuff because it's easy.

he puts himself on the front line and isn't afraid to take f*ckers on

Jeff G. usually has some thought-provoking commentary. Today is no exception.


Posted by: Albie Damned at December 30, 2012 09:12 PM (Yhu4q)

123 "I fine you $50 (after counting the money in his pockets), for just lying around."

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:13 PM (V70Uh)

124 I try as hard as I can to rise above the nasty, evil crap the left dishes out.

Can you imagine if Romney had been elected and Ann had had a terrible bout with MS? Or a recurrence of breast cancer?

I really do want Hillary to pull through 100%. And I want her ass to testify under oath as to what went down in Benghazi.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:13 PM (UOM48)

125 And where are those survivors from Benghazi? By now one would think someone would have found at least one of them. Are they hiding, too?

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 08:50 PM (GoIUi)


They don't have to be, the MFM isn't looking for them.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:14 PM (bxiXv)

126 Redskins cheerleader:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6088/6108806766_0ef03278f7_b.jpg

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 09:14 PM (KhZSt)

127 What if she isn't in the hospital? What if she is on the lam?
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 09:12 PM (GoIUi)

I like to hike down the appalachian trail.

Posted by: Mark Sanford at December 30, 2012 09:14 PM (l86i3)

128 Direct link to FBI data on total NICS checks

http://tinyurl.com/codtnff

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:15 PM (hc3eM)

129 Jane,

Hillary is old school Progressive. She will lie her shriveled ass off before the Senate.

I pray for her soul, but not her health.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:15 PM (V70Uh)

130 I believe the next four years will go down as among the darkest in our nation's history.

And I blame the low-information, leftest, Marxist tools who voted for the biggest tool bag ever.

It's going to take me a lifetime to forgive the Obamabots who still love his sorry, lazy, Special Snowflake ass.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:16 PM (UOM48)

131 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:14 PM (bxiXv)
Nor is Fox News!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 30, 2012 09:16 PM (Cnqmv)

132 Guess these boots were not made in Thailand or PRC. Almost $1,100 a pair.
http://www.shoebuy.com/bruno-magli-keisha/543820/1136708

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:17 PM (t9Q9e)

133 As to the Original Topic, they don't care if the laws are effective as long as they have More Power.

And if it hurts the law-abiding more than the criminals, the more the better. It's not like criminals were voting against them anyway.

The *goal* was to harm The Dreaded Other, any "law enforcement purpose" was incidental and for PR purposes.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:17 PM (bxiXv)

134 Actually, OldSailorPoet, they called him the hanging Judge but he hanged very few. He usually arranged an escape after scaring them onto a righteous path.

He did have a thing for Lilly though!

He did weddings for 5 dollars a pop and ended the ceremony with "May God have mercy on your souls!"

That guy just cracks me up.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 09:17 PM (MJlUG)

135 >>wait, they just decided today that she had a stroke?

The first victim of Obamacare.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2012 09:17 PM (SUKHu)

136 Think they'll "have to" put HRC into a coma to save her life? Funny this comes up just as we begin a national conversation about reinstating involuntary commitment.

What are the chances that she'll see that light, come back, and spill all? Sure it's unlikely, but I'd bet on 200 or so party functionaries speculating on it right now.

If this happened in a Ton Clancy novel, you'd put it aside and say, God damn it, Clancy. Get real. Anybody remember "Night of Camp David"?

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 09:18 PM (qaVK+)

137 More stompyboots anyone?


http://tinyurl.com/9wn749f

Posted by: Mark Sanford at December 30, 2012 09:19 PM (l86i3)

138 Purp Av: Incorrect. The SCOTUS has ruled against a prosecution based solely on a lie on a 4473.

Commonwealth Vs. Baxter, and Florida Vs. Watso are a couple of recent cases. ( Baxter was jailed for lying on state forms only )

Felon buying gun charges have to be developed not using the 4473 as evidence.

The 4473 CAN be used to prove FFL holder crimes, such as US vs Lassiter, where the FFL holder had a bunch of kids in his gradeschool class fill out blank forms with their names as an "exercise", and then used those forms to sell firearms to felons.


Posted by: Kristophr at December 30, 2012 09:19 PM (wYVte)

139 Guess these boots were not made in Thailand or PRC. Almost $1,100 a pair.


Sadly, that doesn't prevent them from being made in Thailand or the PRC. There's a big controversy in Italy about what counts as made in Italy for clothing since it's turning out that a lot of the couture pieces are being made in the Far East and then just finished in Italy.


*pets boots anyway*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 09:19 PM (Gk3SS)

140 If Hildebeast is lying, or has "her people" lying for her, all I can say is I hope Teddy Kennedy is warming up a seat for her.

My compassion and empathy only go so far.

Now the MFM are talking up that idiot Chelsea for Hildebeast's old NY Senate seat.

Yeah, the child of a rapist and an enabler. What could go wrong for the country?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:19 PM (UOM48)

141 >>I believe the next four years will go down as among the darkest in our nation's history.

Your optimism seems unwarranted.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 30, 2012 09:20 PM (9HhTH)

142 What are the chances that she'll see that light, come back, and spill
all? Sure it's unlikely, but I'd bet on 200 or so party functionaries
speculating on it right now.


Why does the scene from the Godfather with Pacino and Enzo the baker outside the hospital come to mind?

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2012 09:21 PM (6TB1Z)

143 evening 'rons and 'ronettes.

Posted by: RichatUF at December 30, 2012 09:22 PM (rJdKc)

144 #136 Yeah, I remember "Night of Camp David." I also remember "Seven Days in May."

There is a lot of stuff that goes on that we aren't privy to, and I have become so cynical I don't believe anything.

Why don't we have a doctor's statement? That right there gets my antennae up.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 09:23 PM (GoIUi)

145 Dang you Mark Sanford, screwed me too. stupid sock.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:23 PM (l86i3)

146 It will be worse before it gets better. The "peepul" need to be spanked. Mercifully, it appears that it will be happening soon.


Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:23 PM (V70Uh)

147 Did not know that AlextheChick. If I was Italian and paying what they pay, I would be irate also.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:24 PM (t9Q9e)

148 Consider what WE KNOW to be true about Shrillary compared to the MFM narrative about her, and then guess whether these reports are accurate or the whole truth.

Then again, the MFM got that Conn shooting story right from the get go......



The Clintons are a fucking blood clot on this country.

Posted by: Woodford Rescue Unit at December 30, 2012 09:25 PM (aZ6ew)

149 4
they're only serious about disarming the law-abiding citizens, not their base


Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 30, 2012 08:15 PM (Gmp2Z)

I see what you did there! lol

Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 09:25 PM (Oi60j)

150 146 It will be worse before it gets better. The "peepul" need to be spanked. Mercifully, it appears that it will be happening soon.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:23 PM (V70Uh)


Now you're falling for the main fallacy of the left.

They never learned before, why would they start learning now?

Seriously, the main hobby of the far left for over 200 years has been slaughtering peasants. Peasants *love* the left.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:25 PM (bxiXv)

151 Pain is a powerful teacher. In only hope the stupid Obamabots in this country will learn the lesson. As my husband said (he, the small business owner), we're all going to suffer if and when we go off the cliff. And Obamacare is going to hurt everyone, even if we don't go over.

Sadly, most people in what's left of this country are too stupid to know or care.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:25 PM (UOM48)

152 >>the FFL holder had a bunch of kids in his gradeschool class fill out blank forms with their names as an "exercise", and then used those forms to sell firearms to felons.

People are sooo lovely.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2012 09:26 PM (SUKHu)

153 Might wanna put some ice on that.

Posted by: Bill at December 30, 2012 09:26 PM (BVkEs)

154 Hillary would lie when telling the truth would be easier. She lied to a grieving mom and dad at that funeral for the Bengahzi victims, She knew it wasn't the FKN video. She's goin to hell, not if but when.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:27 PM (l86i3)

155 10
I was amused a few days ago when I read that the Chinese want the U.S.
to disarm us. The irony. It burns. They, of all people should understand
Mao's comment "Political power come out of the barrel of a gun."

Cold. Dead. Fingers.



Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 08:19 PM (V70Uh)

I stole that, I hope you don't mind.

Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 09:27 PM (Oi60j)

156 O/T My wife does not generally like chocolate and mint together.

Some friends gave us some Ghirardelli "Peppermint Bark." The mint is subtle. She loves it. Crap. I have to go back to Wally World tomorrow and hope they have some left. They had it the day after Christmas in big bars for 50% off. Crap. I should have bought some when I had the chance.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:28 PM (V70Uh)

157 I don't mind at all. You honor me sir.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:28 PM (V70Uh)

158 http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-4th-circuit/1564809.html

That case doesn't support your contention if its the same Baxter

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:29 PM (hc3eM)

159 Marple, you don't get a lot of credit around here because you self-identify as old. Just wanted you to know, as a gesture of respect for the sharpness of your wit, I'm going to daydream about your antennae, er, up.

I bet you're lean and hard and know twelve ways to kill a man without calling in airstrike. Just a nod and a high sign, there, across the smoke of battle.

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 09:29 PM (qaVK+)

160 We are rapidly getting to the point when we have an infinity of laws of which none are enforced.
Posted by: Al


Nope, selectively enforced.

Those that haven't donated to the cause of those in power are first in line. Pressure is brought to bear, and then we are one big happy Party™.

"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 30, 2012 09:30 PM (KDq5l)

161 The notion of "equal protection" is completely obsolete these days

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:31 PM (hc3eM)

162 Let have a vote. How many of you think that we are going into recession in 2013 regardless of the "fiscal cliff" bullshit? Any small businesses going to hire except for replacement?


Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:32 PM (V70Uh)

163 She lied to a grieving mom and dad at that funeral
for the Bengahzi victims, She knew it wasn't the FKN video. She's goin
to hell, not if but when.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:27 PM (l86i3



Yep.

Barry told his butt-boy David Gregory that the saddest day of his presidency was the Newtown massacre.

He's apparently forgotten that "workplace violence" that took place at Ft. Hood via the hands of one of Obama's practitioners of peace, Maj. Hassan, as he assassinated un-armed men and women (including a pregnant mom who cried out in her dying moments for her child).


I remembered how he told us about the horror, first saying, "I want to give a shout-out to Chief Fumbles With His Dick" before telling us about the troops he is CiC of who were slaughtered.

He is the evilest, vilest POS ever to put his nasty feet up (or the only one) of the Resolute Desk.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:32 PM (UOM48)

164 Can some one, anyone, please tell me why any story about Hillary Clinton has to include, at the end, that she is the most widely traveled SOS ever? Who the hell cares? I don't. I care more about what she did a SOS, or didn't do in the case of Benghazi!

Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 09:32 PM (z4WKX)

165 How many of you think that we are going into recession in 2013

We've been in recession for 4 years now if the book keeping is honest.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:33 PM (hc3eM)

166 Dammit. remembered - remember

Stupid fingers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:33 PM (UOM48)

167 Let have a vote. How many of you think that we are going into recession in 2013 regardless of the "fiscal cliff" bullshit? Any small businesses going to hire except for replacement?


Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:32 PM (V70Uh)

I think we are already there, the Monopoly money proping up the stock exchanges will be the last to fall, and when it does, BAM.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:33 PM (l86i3)

168 Hillary Clinton. The most widely traveled SOS ever.

This is an example of the "I work hard" mentality.

I prefer the "I accomplish things" mentality.


Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:35 PM (V70Uh)

169 It's just occurred to me for the first time that Hillary Clinton may die soon.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:35 PM (I1APS)

170 162 Let have a vote. How many of you think that we are going into recession in 2013 regardless of the "fiscal cliff" bullshit? Any small businesses going to hire except for replacement?

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:32 PM (V70Uh)


We haven't left the last one yet.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:36 PM (bxiXv)

171 Vigorous activity != progress

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:36 PM (hc3eM)

172
157
I don't mind at all. You honor me sir.



Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:28 PM (V70Uh)

Cool!
It's on facebook under my real name now. You may see it pop up soon, at least I hope you, and many others do too.

Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 09:36 PM (Oi60j)

173 >>Can some one, anyone, please tell me why any story about Hillary Clinton has to include, at the end, that she is the most widely traveled SOS ever?

Hillary Clinton, who has more reasons to avoid being home than any other SOC ever...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2012 09:36 PM (SUKHu)

174 Hillary Clinton. The most widely traveled SOS ever.

This is an example of the "I work hard" mentality.

I prefer the "I accomplish things" mentality.


Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:35 PM (V70Uh)

Mrs. Sailor has a guy like that who works for her. They call him the perpetual motion man. He doesn't do shit but looks good doing it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:36 PM (l86i3)

175 Free Willy.

Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 09:37 PM (VMcEw)

176 Al as others have pointed out, we are still in the one from 2008 that got Barry into orifice. Just with all the new taxes and this uncertainty over the fiscal cliff, the stock market is going to do what it did during FDR's term - crater again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:37 PM (t9Q9e)

177 It would be Chicago-brand convenience if she died soon.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:37 PM (I1APS)

178 al

bed bath and beyond carries the peppermint bark

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 6th day of Christmas at December 30, 2012 09:38 PM (GVxQo)

179 #159 comatus, I think that is the nicest compliment I have received in a very long time. Thank you.

A lesson for younger people is this: Accept your age, keep in shape, and keep your mind alert. That way those sumsabitches won't sneak up on you!

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 09:38 PM (GoIUi)

180 >>>I think we are already there,

I expect to make a little money in my business next year, but it has been a shadow of its former self since late 2008. OTH, my BIL owns LOTS of local commercial real estate and it is all rented, and he says business is good.

It's not all over yet, but I am stocking some extra beans 'n franks in the pantry, and it ain't due to inclement weather either.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 09:38 PM (4Mv1T)

181 Worse than ignorant Obama voters were the eligible voters who chose not to vote because Romney didn't excite them or something.

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 09:38 PM (dBYCN)

182 Lets hope Hillary does not suffer an aspirin overdose like what happened in Chicago one time.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:38 PM (t9Q9e)

183 They will name a roundabout after her in Benghazi.

Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 09:39 PM (VMcEw)

184 Yes, I know that we are still in the same recession that began when the productive among us realized that TFG was going to win in 2008. They cook the books to make it look like "happy days are here again." But they don't fool us.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:39 PM (V70Uh)

185 >Can some one, anyone, please tell me why any story about Hillary Clinton
has to include, at the end, that she is the most widely traveled SOS
ever?



because everything Democrats do is awesome


-MSNBC stylebook

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 30, 2012 09:40 PM (8sCoq)

186 They will name a roundabout after her in Benghazi.
Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 09:39 PM (VMcEw)

Shillary Shircle

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:40 PM (l86i3)

187 sTevo, like Lady Bird Circle at Arlington?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:40 PM (t9Q9e)

188 175
Free Willy.




Oh, I thought you said, "Free Billy." Billy Bob Clinton's willy has been raping and pillaging for years with abandon.

Hope Hillary isn't about to be "Vince Fostered" by the Obama Chicago machine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:40 PM (UOM48)

189 Just with all the new taxes and this uncertainty over the fiscal cliff, the stock market is going to do what it did during FDR's term - crater again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:37 PM (t9Q9e)


And Carter. They do the same thing, every time, it has the same result, and every time they expect something different.

So it's really the stupid party and the stupid *and* evil party.

Unless you account for Alinsky, Cloward, and Piven, in which case we're back to just evil.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:40 PM (bxiXv)

190 The Judge was drinking and thinking and thought about why we need the Federal government.

They set holidays..which are nice.

And they should be about preventing a foreign power from kicking our collective butts. Which is why a leftist always wants to cut the military budget first.

Other than those 2 things, I ain't got much use for the Feds.

Put that fat pig on a diet!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 09:41 PM (MJlUG)

191 >>I thought you said, "Free Billy.
---

you caught my drift.

Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 09:41 PM (VMcEw)

192
Can some one, anyone, please tell me why any story about Hillary Clinton
has to include, at the end, that she is the most widely traveled SOS
ever? Who the hell cares?

Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 09:32 PM (z4WKX)

She got tired of getting hit in the choppers by the revolving doors in Bill's office.That's how she got the concussion btw.























Posted by: ontherocks at December 30, 2012 09:42 PM (aZ6ew)

193 If you remove the Obama deficit spending from GDP (that exceeded Bush's) we're clearly in a depression.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:42 PM (hc3eM)

194 ontherocks, barrel

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:42 PM (t9Q9e)

195 Other than those 2 things, I ain't got much use for the Feds.

Put that fat pig on a diet!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 09:41 PM (MJlUG)


Yep, they can kill 90% of everything they do, return it to the states, and let us choose where to live based on politics.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:42 PM (l86i3)

196 173
>>Can some one, anyone, please tell me why any story about Hillary
Clinton has to include, at the end, that she is the most widely
traveled SOS ever?



Hillary Clinton, who has more reasons to avoid being home than any other SOC ever...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2012 09:36 PM (SUKHu)

lol, Bill would not touch her with a 20' pole, why do you think he was after every skirt in the nation?
Sir Hillary Cliton is a major pain in the ass!
P.S. That's not a typo! lol

Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 09:43 PM (Oi60j)

197 They cook the books to make it look like "happy days are here again." But they don't fool us.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:39 PM (V70Uh)


At this point I don't think it's so much "cooking the books" as "heating the ashes."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:43 PM (bxiXv)

198 But I cant make that cute sound

17 WOLVERINES!!! mfosPosted by: Knightbrigade

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 09:43 PM (3hSf2)

199 We've been in recession for 4 years now if the book keeping is honest.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:33 PM (hc3eM)


PurpAv- We never did get over the recession, now we are going to have a depression from going over the Cliff! No one commented when I posted early today that I did payroll for January 4 and that the full 7.65% for Medicare and SS was taken out of pay checks. I didn't check rates on FWT. I will have people bitch to me and I will tell them to call their Congressman and senators here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I do it through a payroll service. I don't set the rates, but people bitch to me any way.

Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 09:43 PM (z4WKX)

200 You can do anything with a doctors order, including testifying. I smell a rat.

Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 09:44 PM (VMcEw)

201 Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 09:43 PM (z4WKX)

Your canned answer? Elections have consequences.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:44 PM (l86i3)

202 The one thing that still baffles me. I have three "friends" in particular, who all voted for the Barking Omelette, both times. All three of them are in their late fifties, educated, worldly, in business for themselves, successful, otherwise lucid, and intelligent men.

For the life of me, I simply cannot wrap my head around whatever it is they could have possibly been thinking.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 09:44 PM (4Mv1T)

203 Little or no economic growth is the new normal.The people wanted a welfare state.

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 09:45 PM (dBYCN)

204 Ask'em if they voted for Obama when they bitch. Then tell'em they voted for it if they voted for him

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:45 PM (hc3eM)

205 I did not have sex with that concussed blood-clotted woman. Not one time. Ask dead Webb.

Posted by: Bill at December 30, 2012 09:45 PM (BVkEs)

206 OSP re: "One Witness Too Many" could be a Vince Flynn novel about corruption and murder in DC...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:45 PM (t9Q9e)

207 and then there were none

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 09:46 PM (3hSf2)

208 Hillary Clinton. The most widely traveled SOS ever.

Whenever John Foster Dulles visited a country, they'd send in Dave Brubeck a few weeks later to smooth things over.

In the words of Cheech and Chong, Dave's not here.

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 09:47 PM (qaVK+)

209 OSP re: "One Witness Too Many" could be a Vince Flynn novel about corruption and murder in DC...
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:45 PM (t9Q9e)

Indeed, let me give him a call, you know, us Authors are all pretty tight.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:47 PM (l86i3)

210 damn..just got this email ?? can any one translate ?

Warmth wrote that no cheese was so forthcoming as to peter the snout with prostration at Ergushovo, illogical of rational associations for both of infantry.

At that sculptor cable first digestd alligator, and her mere lap handwriting with chief stem, selection would swim invited would seem slightly, had not her itself caught hail of her.


Posted by: grease monkey at December 30, 2012 09:47 PM (VSWPU)

211 >> ontherocks, barrel


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:42 PM (t9Q9e)
Put me on the list, still on injured reserve.I'll make it up later.


Posted by: ontherocks at December 30, 2012 09:47 PM (aZ6ew)

212 Posted by: grease monkey at December 30, 2012 09:47 PM (VSWPU)

That may be a virus from a bank stripping foreign country.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:48 PM (l86i3)

213 Anyone here believe that Obama's Chi-Town buddies aren't up to a bit of Vince Fostering of there own?

You combine the evil of the Clintons with the evil of the Obama's, that's some heavy shit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:48 PM (UOM48)

214 210 Is it from ace?

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 09:48 PM (dBYCN)

215 Tobacco Road,

Are any of your business "friends" Christian? I doubt it.

Posted by: Al at December 30, 2012 09:48 PM (V70Uh)

216 Chop chop! Make swift with the pointy elbows silicone blobs, there is a Dal-ass game on.

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at December 30, 2012 09:49 PM (mKlzx)

217 Sigh. there = their

I iz lazeeee

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:49 PM (UOM48)

218 The Russian Federation is booming even as the Eurotards slip into recession.

I'm working on a Russian Federation / USA compare/contrast post. Nutshell: we effectively traded places with the old Soviet Union.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:49 PM (hc3eM)

219 Posted by: grease monkey at December 30, 2012 09:47 PM (VSWPU)

Dunno, but there are a lot of good band names in there.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 09:49 PM (KhZSt)

220 let's review...
1- she was home alone
2- fell
3- no one has seen her
4- dehydrated
5- how can someone of that high a profile be "home alone"? No security, no aids, no way.
where is breitbart when you need him?

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (3hSf2)

221 I have to spend seven hours with the family of vegetarian socialists tomorrow night. For my wife. Praying nothing and nobody gets broken.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (I1APS)

222 Re: Breakfast drinking thread.

Watching Drink Boy mix drinks is like watching Bob Ross paint Happy Clouds.

I must have watch 10 of them.

Posted by: sTevo at December 30, 2012 09:51 PM (VMcEw)

223 OSP, lol. Or all of us author Morons try to write a story or short story to fit the title.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:51 PM (t9Q9e)

224 Truman North, bring the herbicide.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:51 PM (t9Q9e)

225 Chop chop! Make swift with the pointy elbows silicone blobs, there is a Dal-ass game on.

See 126.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (KhZSt)

226 The SecState has to have 7x24 secret service or DSS protection, right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (hc3eM)

227 @210- I think the first sentance has to do with smegma.

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (3hSf2)

228
"The earth is the Lord's and all that is in it."
1 Cor. 10:26

Dear XXXX,

Congress is returning to Washington after the Christmas holiday to take care of unfinished business. While they're going to be debating a number of difficult matters, there's one thing on the agenda that is a no-brainer - extending the Wind Power Tax Credit.

Click Here to Sign the Wind Tax Credit Petition Below.

Originally passed with bi-partisan support in 1992, the Wind Power Tax Credit is a critical policy for the health of our children, our economy, and creation. It's set to expire at the end of the year and Congress needs to renew it without delay.

God has given us an abundance of natural resources and called us to be good stewards of them. We're also to care for and protect the vulnerable among us, including our children. Wind energy is clean and does not give off toxic emissions such as mercury, which causes brain damage in the unborn and young children. That's why earlier this year, more than fifty three thousand pro-life Christians petitioned the EPA in support of renewable energy.

Additionally, in the last two decades the wind industry has created tens of thousands of new jobs that cannot be outsourced and will help break our dependency on foreign oil.

The Wind Tax Credit is simply an uncomplicated good.

Sign our petition below by clicking here and join thousands of Christians in telling Congress to extend it today.

Sincerely,
Rev. Mitch Hescox

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (e8kgV)

229 "A" vegetarian socialist family-- of green public union thugs. Not my family, although that would be hard for other reasons.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (I1APS)

230 OSP, lol. Or all of us author Morons try to write a story or short story to fit the title.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:51 PM (t9Q9e)

I'll defer to a ron or ronnettes.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (l86i3)

231
I have to spend seven hours with the family of vegetarian socialists tomorrow night.


Arrive with bacon on your breath...

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 09:53 PM (hc3eM)

232 Do vegetarian socialists serve booze?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 30, 2012 09:54 PM (KhZSt)

233 For the life of me, I simply cannot wrap my head around whatever it is they could have possibly been thinking.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 09:44 PM (4Mv1T)


And unless you're indoctrinated into a mindset where evil is better than good, wrong is better than right, and the behaviors that lead to failure are better than the behaviors that lead to success, you won't.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:54 PM (bxiXv)

234 Smuggle some beef jerky .

Posted by: grease monkey at December 30, 2012 09:54 PM (VSWPU)

235 alright men- , other than your car, where did you last hear this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkXNEmtf9tk

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 30, 2012 09:54 PM (8sCoq)

236 @232 only potato vodka, comrad

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 09:54 PM (3hSf2)

237 228 Clergy are not immune to retardation.

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 09:54 PM (dBYCN)

238 I think will take two cars in case one of them starts discussing politics.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:55 PM (I1APS)

239 221
I have to spend seven hours with the family of vegetarian socialists
tomorrow night. For my wife. Praying nothing and nobody gets broken.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (I1APS



Man up. I spent several hours Christmas afternoon and evening with a room full of 20 or so raving socialist liberals.

The life coach s-i-i ordered us all to be quiet, to "summon the life force of our father to join us in our celebration."

Her millionaire newest husband looks like he's on the verge of suicide after five years with her. And that is not a joke. Everyone in the family has noticed, and he's mentioned he's "not happy" in the marriage.

Anyhow, good luck. Drink heavily, and report all the nasty shit back here!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:55 PM (UOM48)

240 I have to spend seven hours with the family of
vegetarian socialists tomorrow night. For my wife. Praying nothing and
nobody gets broken.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (I1APS)

Go to a restaurant. Order veal. That should liven things up.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 09:55 PM (Gk3SS)

241 ow the MFM are talking up that idiot Chelsea for Hildebeast's old NY Senate seat.

Yeah, the child of a rapist and an enabler. What could go wrong for the country?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:19 PM (UOM4

Jane,I'm very happy now that I have discovered Dexter on Showtime. I have been watching it on demand all weekend. I have had an almost "news free weekend" and am glad the only news I have heard was here and what I have had in my email.

I suggest we all do as much of this as possible until 2015 when the Republicans, if they still exist, will start to announce runs for POTUS for 2016.

We'll find out what we met here and damn the MFM!

Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (z4WKX)

242 Vegetarian socialist....pause during dinner as if listening and say,I hear the vegetables screaming.

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (dBYCN)

243 210
damn..just got this email ?? can any one translate ?

Warmth wrote
that no cheese was so forthcoming as to peter the snout with
prostration at Ergushovo, illogical of rational associations for both of
infantry.


At that sculptor cable first digestd alligator, and her mere lap
handwriting with chief stem, selection would swim invited would seem
slightly, had not her itself caught hail of her.


Good day.
-Sean Penn

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (6TB1Z)

244 On the upside there will be libations. They claim to be vegetarian for health reasons. What a pack of dumb shits.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (I1APS)

245 Ask Vince Foster, he knows where the Bones are buried...

Posted by: Clemenza at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (ILM+d)

246 I chose Texas. It's a great state if you can get past the illegals.

Illegal Aliens, I hate em! My wife is Chinese. I jumped through flaming hoops to get her citizenship. We did it by the book. She loves America!

She amazed me and one day told me.."Thanks for choosing Texas to live in. Texas used to be it's own country. Thank you for making me the American people. Thank you for buying me a pistol and showing me how to shoot it. In China you cannot even see or touch the gun. You are the best husband in all the world."

I had a tear in my eye. She gets it!



Sheesh!










Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (MJlUG)

247 PurpAv, bite your tongue. State doesn't use Secret Service. They have their own protective agency, tasked with safeguarding the person of ambassadors and...

never mind. Funds have been tight.

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (qaVK+)

248 So I'm back. Choking down the alcoholic maple syrup. A little buzzed. Watching America's Team.


I missed AtC???

*sobs*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (IvVLN)

249 I have to spend seven hours with the family of vegetarian socialists
tomorrow night. For my wife. Praying nothing and nobody gets broken.


Be sure to point out everything in the house made of leather.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:57 PM (l86i3)

250

Truman North, bring the herbicide a couple of Slim Jims.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 30, 2012 09:58 PM (ni/qK)

251 Truman North - Carrot Juice is Murder
http://youtu.be/KmK0bZl4ILM

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 09:58 PM (t9Q9e)

252 Apropos of nothing at all, I really like this version of one of my favorite songs.

http://tinyurl.com/b3rpja4

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2012 09:58 PM (6TB1Z)

253 Originally passed with bi-partisan support in 1992, the Wind Power Tax Credit is a critical policy for the health of our children, our economy, and creation.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (e8kgV)


Horse fucking shit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 30, 2012 09:58 PM (bxiXv)

254 Watching America's Team.





I missed AtC???



*sobs*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 09:56 PM (IvVLN)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
So what's the over under on how many picks Romo throws? I'm going with 4.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 09:58 PM (Gk3SS)

255 Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (I1APS)
Go to a restaurant. Order veal. That should liven things up.




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 09:55 PM (Gk3SS



Heh. I laughed so hard at the veal comment I literally choked. Thanks, alexthechick. Sort of.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 09:58 PM (UOM48)

256 >>>And unless you're indoctrinated into a mindset where evil is better than
good, wrong is better than right, and the behaviors that lead to
failure are better than the behaviors that lead to success, you won't.


The hell of it is, I have done business with these guys a fairly long time, and know them pretty well. They are all good men. Good families. All made very much above average incomes, on their own. They are honest men. This is the baffling part.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 09:59 PM (4Mv1T)

257 @243 Horses do not Fuck Shit , Congress does..

Posted by: Clemenza at December 30, 2012 09:59 PM (ILM+d)

258 It's really weird because outside of their political religion they're very nice people. Husband graduated from West Point. Coaches Little League. Runs a World of Warcraft guild.

If politics stays off the menu it might be doable. But I won't be preached to.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:59 PM (I1APS)

259 This past week I ate beef 5 days,6 counting the Veal I ate Thursday.Friday I had pizza...with meatballs.

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 09:59 PM (dBYCN)

260 ya know, the secret service never liked Hildabeast.

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 10:00 PM (3hSf2)

261 Do vegetarian socialists serve booze?

Naturally fermented wheat-germ puree.
That's what my biker pals used to call Black Velvet, when we'd get invited to a sorority party.

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 10:00 PM (qaVK+)

262 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
So what's the over under on how many picks Romo throws? I'm going with 4.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 30, 2012 09:58 PM (Gk3SS)




Your words. They hurt.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 10:00 PM (IvVLN)

263 Massive Headwound Hillary 2016!

Posted by: Hollywood Fundraiser at December 30, 2012 10:01 PM (ilgbd)

264 257 Muslims fuck horses than murder them,saw the story on Bare Naked Islam.Made me really angry because they than murdered the horse.Vile,filthy savages.

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2012 10:01 PM (dBYCN)

265 So what's the over under on how many picks Romo throws? I'm going with 4

Put it this way.....

More than RGIII throws.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:01 PM (tOvyV)

266 It was the horses fault

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 10:02 PM (3hSf2)

267 >>I have to spend seven hours with the family of vegetarian socialists

tomorrow night. For my wife. Praying nothing and nobody gets broken.


Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM




In those situations I usually break out different variations of "yeah, I heard about that" while varying tones and facial expressions.

After a few minutes the ones that aren't completely fucking braindead catch on.

In the mean time, you have a little fun with it.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 30, 2012 10:02 PM (aZ6ew)

268 Sincerely,

Rev. Mitch Hescox

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 30, 2012 09:52 PM (e8kgV)

Uh, Rev., you might wanna lay off the sacramental wine.
Sincerely,The folks who put the money in the collection plate.

Posted by: tcn at December 30, 2012 10:02 PM (VLG62)

269 Keep in mind: Mayor (and Nanny) Bloomberg said on Meet the Press, "I think there’s something like 77,000 people who have been accused of lying when they applied for a gun permit. We’ve only prosecuted 77 of them." The 77,000 number, he sourced, through a spokesman, to "Enforcement of the Brady Act, 2009: Federal and State Investigations and Prosecutions of Firearm Applicants Denied by a NICS Check in 2009."

Needless to say, that 77,000 number does not appear in the document, and the closest to it is 71,010 denials for all causes. Of which about 60 were prosecuted for false information. "The DENI Branch screened 71,010 NICS denials received from the FBI during 2009 and referred 4,681 denials (approximately 7%) within the established guidelines to field divisions.... The remaining denials (66,329, or about 93%) did not meet referral guidelines or were overturned after review by the DENI Branch or after the FBI received additional information. Denials because of protective orders, domestic violence misdemeanor convictions, and felony convictions comprised nearly 76% of referrals to field divisions."

Posted by: d1 at December 30, 2012 10:02 PM (fIkHQ)

270 "Black Velvet" .. was on some commercial .. can't remember which.

Posted by: grease monkey at December 30, 2012 10:02 PM (VSWPU)

271 162 Let have a vote. How many of you think that we are going into recession in 2013 regardless of the "fiscal cliff" bullshit? Any small businesses going to hire except for replacement? Recession in the middle with subpar growth for the next few years. Wildcards are the bubbling ports strike esp. if other unions join and municipal bankruptcies. Gas prices I think will be a driver as well and if they continue on their downslope some of the blow from tax hikes will be lessened. Worst case would be a sharp rise in gas prices, a layoff wave because of the "pass it to find out whats in it" tax hike from Ocare, and a ports strike that drags on for months causing spot shortages and an inflation wave.

Posted by: RichatUF at December 30, 2012 10:03 PM (rJdKc)

272 265 So what's the over under on how many picks Romo throws? I'm going with 4

-------------

Put it this way.....

More than RGIII throws.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:01 PM (tOvyV)



My friends have abandoned me....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 10:03 PM (IvVLN)

273 Heh.

Truman North, a few weeks ago we're on our way to the N. GA mountains to meet up with ATL friends we hadn't seen in a while.

Just before reaching the mountain cabin, husband gets this text: "Don't freak out. We're vegan now. Will explain later."

Husband texts back: "Don't freak out. We're still meatatarians."

Husband fried bacon first thing the next morning, while they ate sesame sticks. Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:04 PM (UOM48)

274 My friends have abandoned me....
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 10:03 PM (IvVLN)

Meh, He's a second half QB, when the pressures on so is he. He's a clutch player and cagey operator that excells in the heat of the moment. In other words, your screwed.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 10:06 PM (l86i3)

275 My friends have abandoned me....

At least you have your health.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:06 PM (tOvyV)

276 "Don't freak out. We're vegan now."
"No problemo. We've entered into a line marriage, and swing."

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 10:08 PM (qaVK+)

277 My friends have abandoned me....


Glooooom, Despaaaair and agony on me.......

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 10:08 PM (l86i3)

278 OldSailorsPoet,

Show up with some KFC and Big Mac's.

That always pisses vegans off.

And start the holiday conversation off with "Why does Obama want to ban my guns..is he really that insecure?"

Go balls out...Take no prisoners!

Of course that is why I am rarely invited to family sit downs. Except for Daddy (WWII vet)..he gets it.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 10:08 PM (MJlUG)

279 >>>"Don't freak out. We're vegan now. Will explain later."

My 16 year-old, and all his friends, and certainly I, love Bojangles fried chicken. He tweeted last year, "Vegans. I don't get it. How can ANYONE possibly go that long without fried chicken."

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 10:08 PM (4Mv1T)

280 At least you have your health.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:06 PM (tOvyV)




I'm a Type 1 Diabetic. Diagnosed just before I turned 5.

Sooooo....not so much. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 10:09 PM (IvVLN)

281 Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 30, 2012 10:08 PM (MJlUG)


All excellent suggestions, but it aint me. My family couldn't spell vegan.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 10:09 PM (l86i3)

282 Your canned answer? Elections have consequences.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 09:44 PM (l86i3)

Thank you OSP, my canned answer is to call your congressman, but elections have consequences is another one to add.

Congrats on your book being published. I looked at it today at Amazon. When I get around to buying something to hold a book, thanks to someone here, I might buy it, once I finish Dick Cheney's book.

Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 10:10 PM (z4WKX)

283 I'm "required" to fill out IRS forms every year I think if I lie on them they probably use them in my prosecution.

What you sign is essentially waiving your rights. Instead of them proving your guilty, you have to prove your innocent.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 30, 2012 10:11 PM (kqqGm)

284 And just think. George Lucas sold off the Star Wars franchise this year. That way he won't pay the higher rates next year. That should scramble a few liberal's mitichlorians.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 10:11 PM (t9Q9e)

285 Congrats on your book being published. I looked at it today at Amazon. When I get around to buying something to hold a book, thanks to someone here, I might buy it, once I finish Dick Cheney's book.
Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 10:10 PM (z4WKX)


Why thank you, kindle in 2-4 weeks.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 10:11 PM (l86i3)

286 I'm a Type 1 Diabetic. Diagnosed just before I turned 5.

Better lay off the alcoholic maple syrup then.

Pancakes anyone?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:11 PM (tOvyV)

287 Vegan. Wikkin. I get those two confused.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 10:11 PM (4Mv1T)

288 Sean, he swore off all the Rachel Corrie pictures for the new year.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 10:12 PM (t9Q9e)

289 Sean, he swore off all the Rachel Corrie pictures for the new year.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 30, 2012 10:12 PM (t9Q9e)


I thought with the treads it would be waffles.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 10:13 PM (l86i3)

290 Engage the vegans in a conversation about primate anthropology and evolution...then eventually mention the incisors and canine teeth that humans come equipped with.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 30, 2012 10:14 PM (hc3eM)

291 My 16 year-old, and all his friends, and certainly
I, love Bojangles fried chicken. He tweeted last year, "Vegans. I don't
get it. How can ANYONE possibly go that long without fried chicken."


Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 10:08 PM (4Mv1T



Your son is Mensa compared to that entitled Special Snowflake in the Oval Office. Given the chance, I will vote for your son over whoever the hell runs in the next election.


Hug him and give him a noogie for me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2012 10:14 PM (UOM48)

292 Hillary deserves everything she gets, even if it is what Vince got. Oh wait he shot himself, in the back, 3 times, it could happen!

Posted by: Killerdog at December 30, 2012 10:15 PM (Oi60j)

293 Sean, he swore off all the Rachel Corrie pictures for the new year.

Ah yes, Saint Pancake. I understand that her reliquary is buried under the D-9 production line in Peoria.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:15 PM (tOvyV)

294 They texted, "Don't freak out. We're Vegans now."
So, when we showed up, we were all dressed in Star Trek TOS uniforms.
"Way da Veeg-'unz? Shay hut, beam me up."

Thanks, tip your waitress over, I hear you already tried the veal.
Hear all week? Change your Beltone battery.

Posted by: comatus at December 30, 2012 10:17 PM (qaVK+)

295 Vegan = Vapidly Eating Grains And Nuts

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 30, 2012 10:17 PM (BVkEs)

296 Sean, I used to meet with dietitians/nutritionists on a yearly basis in order to learn how to eat and drink responsibly. I don't drink often. But when I do.....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 10:19 PM (IvVLN)

297 283 I'm "required" to fill out IRS forms every year I think if I lie on them they probably use them in my prosecution.

What you sign is essentially waiving your rights. Instead of them proving your guilty, you have to prove your innocent.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 30, 2012 10:11 PM (kqqGm)

The liberal goal is to make all offenses like this,because that innocent until proven guilty technique is just so darn inefficient and creates such a workload for the police state. I

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 30, 2012 10:19 PM (Cnqmv)

298 Jane D'oh. Thanks for those kind word. He's a smart fella, and a very good kid. Also a young man of few words, but when he does say anything, it is usually wise, or funny, or profound.

He's either doing homework, or shooting hoops. God love him (and He does).


Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 30, 2012 10:19 PM (4Mv1T)

299 Good night, all. Am wondering what tomorrow will bring.

I won't think about that until tomorrow, however. I need to sleep.

Night!

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 10:20 PM (GoIUi)

300 The liberal goal is to make all offenses like this,because that innocent until proven guilty technique is just so darn inefficient and creates such a workload for the police state. I
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 30, 2012 10:19 PM (Cnqmv)


Did you ever read any Franz Kafka?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 10:20 PM (l86i3)

301 Posted by: Miss Marple at December 30, 2012 10:20 PM (GoIUi)

Night Miss Marple!!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 10:21 PM (l86i3)

302 284 And just think. George Lucas sold off the Star Wars franchise this year. That way he won't pay the higher rates next year. That should scramble a few liberal's mitichlorians.
<P> Doubt it. Lucas being a good liberal has better things to do with his money</P>

Posted by: RichatUF at December 30, 2012 10:21 PM (rJdKc)

303 Humm can't use html tags in this here comment thread. Or I'm doing it wrong...

Posted by: RichatUF at December 30, 2012 10:22 PM (rJdKc)

304 I don't drink often. But when I do.....

You're the most interesting diabetic in the world?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:23 PM (tOvyV)

305 @304 Auntie Mame?

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 10:24 PM (3hSf2)

306 You're the most interesting diabetic in the world?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:23 PM (tOvyV)



Well, certainly Top 10 Most Interesting.


I mean, I am a Top 10 Commenting Moron...every...fucking...week.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 30, 2012 10:24 PM (IvVLN)

307 or Maime

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 10:25 PM (3hSf2)

308 nope, that was Brian O'Bannion.
Typed before brain was engaged

Posted by: Say What? at December 30, 2012 10:26 PM (3hSf2)

309 check out this great video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxRlpRcorEU
Demand A Plan - Demand Celebrities Go Fuck Themselves

Posted by: Avi at December 30, 2012 10:28 PM (/ZEtn)

310
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 30, 2012 10:19 PM (Cnqmv)


Did you ever read any Franz Kafka?
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 30, 2012 10:20 PM (l86i3)

I am living in one of his scenarios!

Posted by: Gregory Samsa at December 30, 2012 10:28 PM (Cnqmv)

311 US
Customs made the mistake of trying to use the IRS to bust a drug
smuggler in the 1990s ... he showed up at tax court, and made the judge
order him to report his income.

He did so, reporting a gigantic
figure, and admitting it was drug income, and BTW, how much tax do I
owe? The judge gave him an enormous figure, and he calmly wrote a check
for that amount.

And then left the country. No one could touch
him, as he had paid his taxes in full, and his testimony about his
income source was privileged.


Posted by: Kristophr at December 30, 2012 09:00 PM (wYVte)
A drug dealer could report all of his ill gotten gains on their tax returns, and list their occupation as Drug Dealer, and the IRS would not be able to turn that information over to the police, or DEA, due to disclosure laws. That much is true. However, the US Attorney can petition a federal judge to issue a court order, (called an Ex Parte order) compelling the IRS to turn over all tax returns. Happens all the time in Federal cases. I would assume that these 4473 forms would be obtainable the same way.



Posted by: elliot at December 30, 2012 10:29 PM (blkVM)

312 229 "A" vegetarian socialist family-- of green public union thugs. Not my family, although that would be hard for other reasons.
Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:52

Truman North, have you considered having a case of what I had for 2 1/2 weeks? I know Alex the Chic had it almost as bad. I could not hold anything down for 2 1/2 weeks. Get the 24 or 48 hour version of it very soon.
Carol

Posted by: CarolT at December 30, 2012 10:29 PM (z4WKX)

313 I mean, I am a Top 10 Commenting Moron...every...fucking...week.

This I know.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 30, 2012 10:30 PM (tOvyV)

314 I have to spend seven hours with the family of

vegetarian socialists tomorrow night. For my wife. Praying nothing and

nobody gets broken.



Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 30, 2012 09:50 PM (I1APS)

Bring up how many rabbits, moles, voles, mice, baby birds are killed in the harvesting of vegetables and grains.

Posted by: museisluse at December 30, 2012 10:54 PM (SsWgR)

315 Way to go 'skins!

Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2012 11:48 PM (sqp6o)

316 5% of legal violations prosecuted but we need new laws. Uh-huh.

Posted by: Sarah at December 31, 2012 03:32 AM (LTrJX)

317 I'm as pro-gun as anybody but, in the interest of honest debate, I have to say that the opening "Nutshell summary" grossly distorts the reality here.

- 70,000+ NICS (instant check) rejections/yr
True.

- 4,000+/yr deemed in violation of law and referred for prosecution
Not true. These 4,000+ denials were referred to field divisions for review; not necessarily for prosecution. Special agents at the field offices verify conviction and prohibition information and conduct additional investigations. In 2009, almost 600 of these referrals were found to be persons who were not prohibited.

It is not illegal for a prohibited person to undergo a background check for the purchase or transfer of a firearm. Just because they were red-flagged and denied does not mean they broke any law. And, contrary to your summary, it could be well argued that the government is serious as these background checks are working as planned and preventing guns from getting into the hands of prohibited individuals.

Posted by: George at December 31, 2012 12:03 PM (W7x8r)

318 PurpleAv:

Look like you were right, and I was wrong here.

For a brief time, my contention was correct, but congress fixed the law.

From guncite.org:

For a brief period, the Supreme Court held in 1968 (Haynes v. U.S., 390 U.S.
85) that felons were exempt from federal and state laws regarding
registration because it violated their Fifth Amendment protection
against
self-incrimination. In other words, only people who were not
criminals could be prosecuted for failing to register a firearm or found
to be in possession of an unregistered firearm. However, in 1971, (U.S. v. Freed, 401 U.S. 601)
the Court held that due to changes in the National Firearms Act of 1968
the law no longer violated the 5th Amendment rights of felons.




Posted by: Kristophr at December 31, 2012 03:40 PM (wYVte)






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