Overnight Open Thread (12-27-2012)

Foundation and Paul Krugman

Paul Krugman says in this Guardian piece that he "grew up wanting to be Hari Seldon, using my understanding of the mathematics of human behaviour to save civilisation." For those of you who have read one or more of the books in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series, this makes a lot of sense.

I remember feeling the same way after reading Asimov's Foundation series. But then later I came to understand how complex (and even random) human behavior can be and how the mathematics of even deterministic systems often preclude meaningful long-term predictions. So Asimov-style psychohistory will probably always be science-fiction fantasy.

But as WRM points out Krugman has not only given up on the idea of psychohistory itself but today is now playing the role of Seldon's imperial enemies:

But there is an irony in Krugman's claim to have been inspired by Hari Seldon to take up social science: In his column in the NYT, he often comes off not so much like Seldon but like one of the Galactic Empire's elites, mistrustful of the Hari Seldons out there predicting the collapse of the "empire"-or, that is, the blue model.

In "The Psychohistorians," the head of the imperial committee charged with prosecuting Seldon reaches an important decision. This politician intuitively understands that Seldon's theory of imperial decay is right, but as a card-carrying member of the elite he can't just let Seldon off the hook for his dangerous ideas. So he splits the difference: he reduces the sentence for Seldon and his followers from death or imprisonment to exile to the galactic hinterland of Terminus, where they can work out the plan to save civilization in peace.

That's pretty much what the blue intellectual establishment does today: it doesn't silence freethinkers but it pushes them out to the fringes.

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[These are actually the old covers for the series but since my copies were hand-me-downs from my father they're the only ones I ever knew]

Why UofRI Professor Erik Loomis Should be Fired

Because of the incipient fascism in his writings.

You see the real reason why Loomis should be fired-or at the very least investigated for what he said-is that his comments are fascist.  Bear in mind, I define fascism as nothing more than a lack of belief in democracy itself.*

Consider for instance this comment by Loomis:

You are goddamn right we should politicize this tragedy. F__k the NRA. Wayne LaPierre should be in prison. [Cursing censored by me.]

So he believes that LaPierre should be imprisoned for what exactly?  To the best of my knowledge, LaPierre has broken no laws.  All he has done is advocate for a policy-reduced restrictions on gun ownership-that Loomis disagrees with.  Advocacy of the criminalization of opinions you don't agree with is the very essence of fascism.  He repeats that thought several times:

Wayne LaPierre is a criminal and should be in prison for complicity with murder. 27 counts.-

Dear rightwingers, to be clear, I don't want to see Wayne LaPierre dead. I want to see him in prison for the rest of his life. #nraterrorism

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So What Do We Really Know About the Sandy Hook Shootings?

Even now a lot of the reporting seems to be guessing and just making shit up:

But as it turns out, a great deal of the reporting in the Newtown massacre was incorrect, whether merely irresponsible or purposefully misleading it's difficult to say. As far as we know now (which isn't very far), the killer's "mental illness" seems to not have been of the commitable variety, and there seems to have been no prior hints of his dangerousness. He took the guns from his mother, but how she stored them and how he obtained them is completely unknown. Reports from a friend or friends that she had taken her son to shooting ranges seem to be unsubstantiated as well (although he visited one, he apparently was alone at the time, and there doesn't seem to be a clear record of him shooting there).

Also can you predict future violence from mental patients? Not really says Theodore Dalrymple:

In fact, psychiatrists are no better than others at predicting violence by disturbed people, except possibly among the psychotic. They tend to overestimate the dangers, and in making predictions, they face the problem of the false positive and the false negative. In the case of a false positive, you think that someone is dangerous when he isn't; in the case of a false negative, that he is not dangerous when he is. False predictions of rare events (such as mass killings) generally outweigh true ones by a large factor-an important point to remember, especially if you wish to grant or withdraw civil liberties on the basis of such predictions.

Not long ago, I was asked to participate in an inquiry into a spate of murders committed by psychiatric patients. The killings seemed to be statistically abnormal (recalculation showed that they were not). We were asked to determine whether there was a single type of act, or omission, by the psychiatric services common to all the murders which might help explain them. ...Yet, except in one case, I found no evidence that the low standard of practice had actually resulted in a preventable killing, despite the immense power of the retrospectoscope-the medical instrument that provides us with wisdom after the event and that sometimes does lead to improvements in practice that saves lives, though at other times it provides us only with scapegoats.

8 US Sailors Suing TEPCO Over Fukushima Radiation

In March 2011, the USS Ronald Reagan participated in Operation Tomodachi, an American military effort to provide aid and assistance to Japanese tsunami victims. The aircraft carrier, which was equipped with advanced radiation detection devices, kept a safe distance from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. At one point, the media reported that the ship had been exposed to a tiny and non-dangerous amount of radiation:

    "The maximum potential radiation dose received by any ship's force personnel aboard the ship when it passed through the area was less than the radiation exposure received from about one month of exposure to natural background radiation from sources such as rocks, soil, and the sun."

The ship was apparently about 100 miles away from the plant, way beyond the evacuation distances recommended by both the Japanese government and U.S. government.

And now eight sailors aboard the ship are suing TEPCO over potential reduced lifespans due to radiation exposure. Given that the USS Ronald Reagan is itself nuclear-powered I'm pretty sure that the radiation exposure of the crew is carefully monitored and any dangerous levels would have been enough for the ship to move further away and follow decontamination procedures. So count me completely skeptical.

College Student Being Stalked by Parents

There are helicopter parents and then there parents who really really need a new hobby not involving their adult daughter.

A music theater student has won a stalking order against her parents who admitted they installed monitoring software on her computer and phone to ensure that she succeeded.

David and Julie Ireland have been ordered to have no contact with their 21-year-old daughter - their only child - before September 23, 2013 and must keep 500 feet away from her at all times.

The unusual case concerns Aubrey Ireland, a musical theater major who regularly fills lead roles at Cincinnati's prestigious College-Conservatory of Music and has made the Dean's List every quarter.

Despite this success, her parents often drove 600 miles from their home in Leawood, Kansas, to visit her unannounced and to accuse her of promiscuity, of using drugs and of having mental issues.

They even informed her head of department that she had mental problems and that they were considering going to court to force her to get treatment, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported.

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What Does the International Space Station Sound Like?

Well it's kinda loud.

12 Letters That Didn't Make the Alphabet

All of these sadly failed to make the cut - among them my favorite:

Youre probably familiar with this guy from old-fashioned Greek or Roman style text, especially the kind found in churches. Its even still used stylistically in words today, like ther and on.

What you may not know, however, is that at one time the ae grapheme (as its now known) was an honorary English letter back in the days of Old English. It still had the same pronunciation and everything, it was just considered to be part of the alphabet and called sc or ash after the ash Futhark rune, for which it was used as a substitute when transcribing into Latin letters.

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Comments

1 You can tell a lot about a country by its choice of sockets.

Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2012 09:28 PM (z9HTb)

2 Foundation series. Good reading.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 09:29 PM (yBF/9)

3 first? no way

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:29 PM (cnS/d)

4 Can we lock Loomis in a room with former Enron advisor Paul Krugman and force them to listen to each other's lectures?

Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2012 09:29 PM (z9HTb)

5 yeah I liked the foundation series, I should read it again at some point

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:30 PM (cnS/d)

6 Evening all. Still nursing a holiday hangover with a bunch of high abv beers.

Entertained family 3 times in 4 days. Fun, but fuck me I'm tired.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 09:30 PM (Ai+tZ)

7 When I first read The Foundation books as a kid, I thought Hari Seldon was so cool. Now I think predetermination is a scary idea and the Mule is the actual cool one.

Posted by: votermom at December 27, 2012 09:30 PM (4IJeR)

8 It was really gratifying blowing the fuses at a French hotel I stayed at back in the day. I had a hair dryer with two modes, US v Euro, and a plug adaptor. Plugged it in. Ran it in Euro mode, which didn't work for shit, so I thought "Hey, what happens if I flip this switch?!" Kerplooey!

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:30 PM (5H6zj)

9 What's your beverage of choice, chemjeff?

Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2012 09:30 PM (z9HTb)

10 -Chemjeff's reaction time has already been compromised.

-Loomis looks kinda like that Messina creep; sorta pederast-y

-Prediction: The Cyberman invasion will come from Norway.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 27, 2012 09:30 PM (Y5I9o)

11 Why does the world have to be different for the sake of being different?

Look at the American duplex electrical outlet, it's fucking gorgeous!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 09:31 PM (zOP5o)

12 Those Danish sockets are definitely the most cheerful-looking. American sockets always look unhappy.

And the Chinese ones look like a racist caricature.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 27, 2012 09:31 PM (hgdEm)

13 Puppeh!

pic.twitter.com/u2Wgg1hX

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:31 PM (5H6zj)

14 TD Duke!

Amazing.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:32 PM (5H6zj)

15 Via Twitter:

MT @ExJon To [find] your #EPASecretEmailName, 1st name is your favorite pet, 2nd is your hometown. Mine is "Chester Toledo."


Mine is "Sushi Columbia"

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:33 PM (5H6zj)

16 And what the hell is with those unpolerized and groundless outlets!

WTF!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 09:33 PM (zOP5o)

17

Krugman needs to be kicked by the Mule.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2012 09:34 PM (hVYE+)

18 Funny that Loomis looks exactly as I imagined him to look.

Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 09:34 PM (9XBK2)

19 fluffy it's just Miller Lite tonight, typical get-drunk beer

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:34 PM (cnS/d)

20 Wow, that's the same paperback edition of the original Foundation Trilogy I bought back in 1969-70. What a flashback I just had to LOTR, Dune, Doc Savage, Gormenghast, E.E. 'Doc' Smith, and a bunch of other stuff I was reading back then.

That's a series I should read again someday, but I've lost track of how many books there are now.

Posted by: Dave in San Diego at December 27, 2012 09:35 PM (g9fFO)

21 Y-not, you named your pet "Sushi"?

is it a fish?

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:35 PM (cnS/d)

22 Sockets?
You mean the holes.

Posted by: Slippery Pete at December 27, 2012 09:35 PM (7Kjey)

23 Well, if the article on the USS Reagan was correct, the sailors took about 30 mR. Considering most Los Alamos workers have taken that kind of dose and then some and lived to surprisingly long lifespans, the lawsuit's utter crap.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 27, 2012 09:36 PM (opLk0)

24 Try a Jaeger Bomb!

Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2012 09:36 PM (z9HTb)

25 >>is it a fish?

The first cat Mr Y-not and I had. Siamese.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:37 PM (5H6zj)

26 Good evening morons.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2012 09:37 PM (7Kjey)

27 fluffy, I can't stand Jaegermeister, sorry

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:37 PM (cnS/d)

28 And long as I'm on a roll (not bad for a 100.4 deg. fever), Iowahawk's at it again:

"Sure, Lisa Jackson was an extremist Luddite who used fake identities to
skirt corruption laws. But on the upside, she was incompetent at it."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 27, 2012 09:37 PM (opLk0)

29 Yo Garrett

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:37 PM (cnS/d)

30 My favorite plot point from the Foundation novels: Hari Seldon's forecasts were impressively accurate over an absurdly long time; but then a mutant was born with an unprecedented mutant ability, and that new completely unpredictable factor just skewed everything and wrecked the chain of predictions.

So Asimov not only imagined a magical new science, he imagined one of the ways it could fail. And, as the plot further shows, Hari Seldon had in fact taken steps to ensure his plans continued to work even despite unknown factors.

Classic SF, folks. Well worth your time. In fact, I need to re-read those... it's been years.

Posted by: mr_jack at December 27, 2012 09:38 PM (TMG3G)

31 I've never actually read the Foundation series but didn't even the plans in the book end up at least partly failing because of human behavior leading them to attempt to either start over again or work to fix the problems.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 27, 2012 09:38 PM (mNctV)

32 Additional Blond Agent so sorry about your fever

but Iowahawk is definitely da bomb

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:38 PM (cnS/d)

33 >>Posted by: Additional Blond Agent

Push fluids.

Or something.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:38 PM (5H6zj)

34 Piers is a "tabloid wanker". I like that.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 27, 2012 09:39 PM (n5uqx)

35 A B C D E F Isnular G....

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 27, 2012 09:39 PM (BVkEs)

36 I really want Duke to win this bowl game.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:39 PM (5H6zj)

37 Update from previous thread: I still don't give a shit.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 27, 2012 09:39 PM (Mkhiu)

38 Doing what I can. It's either a cold or a sinus infection, don't know quite which. So, let the fever spike and hopefully it'll burn itself out by tomorrow.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 27, 2012 09:39 PM (opLk0)

39 I can't stand Jaegermeister


I hear it tastes like cough syrup.


Had 1/2 a Screaming Nazi the other night.

Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2012 09:40 PM (z9HTb)

40 And what the hell is with those unpolerized and groundless outlets!

It's called "no product liability lawsuits in that country", I think.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 27, 2012 09:40 PM (OevbG)

41 It is a Bundle of Sticks, Man! Get it right!
Government and Industry, living in perfect harmony...

Posted by: Benito at December 27, 2012 09:40 PM (fDGF1)

42 whoa that was an amazing catch from Cincy dude

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:40 PM (cnS/d)

43 From Allen West:

General Schwarzkopf was our Coalition Force Commander in Operation Desert Shield/Storm. He was a true warrior and not a political General. He helped restore our country's pride in our military and removed the public specter that had loomed since Vietnam. The victory parade after the First Gulf War was as much for "Stormin' Norman" and my brother's generation who had served in those jungles than for us.

I will never forget when our Brigade Task Force, 2d Bde 1st Inf Div, under the Command of COL Tony Moreno was tasked to secure the Safwan Airfield for the surrender talks. I was a young Captain assigned to TF 2-16 Inf, part of 2Bde, as the Fire Support Officer. I and others strained to get a glimpse of the towering stature of the man, General Schwarzkopf. I remember, even though we were not close, when Gen Schwarzkopf turned our way, gave us a thumbs up, to which we stood tall and rendered salutes.

To a great General who led us to victory in what was our first combat operation, I offer a salute.

No mission too difficult, No sacrifice too great.

Duty First Sir!

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:41 PM (5H6zj)

44
Loomis reminds me of a Psychology professor I had in Behavioral Psychology back in college.

What a self-satisfied prick. And a slob too, I'll bet.

Universities are full of people like thatl; above normal IQ, but socially backward and inept. Tends to think of themselves as superior, but has trouble functioning in the rest of society, and thinks that is because he is so much smarter than the rest of society, but really because he has retarded social skills.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 27, 2012 09:41 PM (Md8Uo)

45 13 Puppeh!

pic.twitter.com/u2Wgg1hX
Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:31 PM (5H6zj)

What breed of dog is that? He's cute!

Posted by: joncelli at December 27, 2012 09:41 PM (CWlPF)

46 one of our senior engineers used to ask interviewees, if they have read the classics, after much confusion and gnashing of teeth on the part of the applicant, he would say, You know, Asimov, Heinlein, Hebert, Wells. (I'm sure many could add others to the list). If you were well read, it was a bonus on your chance of landing the job.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at December 27, 2012 09:42 PM (0JB89)

47 >>What breed of dog is that?

She's a smooth collie. About 4 mos old now.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:42 PM (5H6zj)

48 Y-not aww that is a very cute puppeh

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:42 PM (cnS/d)

49 I believe it's the perpetually wrong Paul Krugman that cites the Foundation series and the concept of Psychohistory as the reason why he became a economist.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2012 09:42 PM (KDq5l)

50
(shit. reading ...)

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2012 09:43 PM (KDq5l)

51 Universities are full of people like thatl; above normal IQ, but socially backward and inept. Tends to think of themselves as superior, but has trouble functioning in the rest of society, and thinks that is because he is so much smarter than the rest of society, but really because he has retarded social skills.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..
____
Which is why they are for gun control. They are mentally unstable, so assume everyone else is....and they know guns are not a good thing for them to have around. The best example I can give you is Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at December 27, 2012 09:44 PM (0JB89)

52 You don't have to keep track of how many books there are in the Foundation series, because after the original trilogy they kind of suck. Foundation's Edge is literally nothing but scenes of people in rooms talking to each other. Just sometimes they're on different planets or in spaceships.

Foundation and Earth drives the whole thing right off a fucking cliff once Asimov apparently decides that it's a good idea for humanity to become some kind of creepy galactic hive-mind.

Then he wrote two prequel novels, which are very much in the George Lucas school of prequels: take all the cool stuff from your original work and retroactively make it less awesome and interesting. Oh, and there are robots. So not only do humans not have free will because of the Seldon Plan, everything we've been doing for the entire history of the Galactic Empire has been secretly controlled by robots.

I admire Asimov as a writer, but in his later years the toxic liberalism began bubbling to the surface more and more. The Foundation series becomes a liberal's wet dream: the masses are directed by a secret elite of super-smart guys, and any horrors they feel like committing are perfectly all right because they know it's for your own good. Bah. I liked it better when the Foundation was trying to preserve knowledge in the face of barbarism.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 27, 2012 09:44 PM (hgdEm)

53
Krugman. What a rat faced little bastard. I wouldn't trust that guy to park a car, let alone balance my checkbook or do my taxes. And the New York Times has him as their Economics Editor.

End times are near.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 27, 2012 09:44 PM (Md8Uo)

54 43
From Allen West:

Nice, Y-not, thanks for sharing that.

And, whoa, cute puppeh!!! She's a doll.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 09:45 PM (kpCLl)

55 I had the the Foundation series with the Chris Foss covers.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 09:45 PM (yBF/9)

56 I hope Allen West finds his way back into politics. So frustrating that he lost.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:46 PM (5H6zj)

57 I feel dirty, debased, and violated knowing that Krugman read Foundation and liked it.

Reached the half way mark on Rosetta Stone Spanish tonight, should finish around the first of February.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 27, 2012 09:47 PM (9HhTH)

58 Loomis needs a good ass kicking, and dear leftwingers, to be clear, I mean Loomis needs a good ass kicking.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 09:49 PM (QupBk)

59 I feel dirty, debased, and violated knowing

Well, it is Thursday. I think.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 09:49 PM (Ai+tZ)

60 I hope Allen West finds his way back into politics. So frustrating that he lost.
Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:46 PM (5H6zj)

Oh, I don't think he will be out of the mix for long.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 09:50 PM (l86i3)

61 Duke ties it back up.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:51 PM (5H6zj)

62 When Asimov was writing for John W. Campbell he wrote about American values like freedom and individual heroism (even when they all turned out to be Part of the Plan). But once he was a big name and didn't have a libertarian know-it-all on the other side of the desk to argue with him, his ideas got kind of nasty.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 27, 2012 09:51 PM (hgdEm)

63 I had the the Foundation series with the Chris Foss covers.

I have the Foundation series with the Science Fiction Book Club covers. Whoeverinhell drew them.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 27, 2012 09:51 PM (opLk0)

64 And why do all these tough tweeting liberals have such stereotypically punchable faces?

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 09:51 PM (QupBk)

65 62 Capmbell was a great editor.

Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 09:52 PM (9XBK2)

66 This Tweet made my day:


NOT SportsCenter@NOTSportsCenter

With Greg McElroy having a concussion, the #Jets announced "Buttfumble 2: The Dirty Sanchez Rises" will premiere on Sunday in Buffalo

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 09:52 PM (66ST/)

67 So, uh, we haven't really heard anything about the political inclinations of murdering asshole Adam Lanza and his batshit crazy mum, have we? Hmmmmmm, I wonder why that is?

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 09:52 PM (kpCLl)

68 And why do all these tough tweeting liberals have such stereotypically punchable faces?
Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 09:51 PM (QupBk)


You answered your own question.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 09:52 PM (l86i3)

69 hi MissTammy

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 09:53 PM (cnS/d)

70 Asimov liked the idea of humanity being secretly guided by an elite. He was smarter than most everybody and believed that he should be running the show, and it's clear that the good guys in the Foundation series are Asimov in various disguises.

Posted by: joncelli at December 27, 2012 09:53 PM (CWlPF)

71 I mean really, that's one soft looking dude. Did he used to be a chick?

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 09:53 PM (QupBk)

72 Congratulations on the book OsP!

Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 09:53 PM (9XBK2)

73 67 So, uh, we haven't really heard anything about the political inclinations of murdering asshole Adam Lanza and his batshit crazy mum, have we?
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I saw read an interview of one of a family friend saying he was a free market capitalist or something like that. The friend added "as most Americans are" so it wasn't intended as a slight.

I'll see if I can find it.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:54 PM (5H6zj)

74 70 Clark's stuff is like that too.

Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 09:54 PM (9XBK2)

75 67 Peaches

Indeed. I still want to know whether she had her guns locked up and/or how he got to them, seeing as how she was reportedly trying to have him committed.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 09:54 PM (sdi6R)

76 71 I mean really, that's one soft looking dude. Did he used to be a chick?
Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 09:53 PM (QupBk)

He's probably spent every day since he entered preschool in some kind of academic institution. Probably never had to get his hands dirty and looks down on those who do.

Posted by: joncelli at December 27, 2012 09:55 PM (CWlPF)

77 UFC HW champioship fight this weekend.
Rematch of JDS (current champ, Brazilian) and Cain Velasquez (former champ, Mex-American.)

Cain sports a giant super racist "Brown Pride" tattoo across his chest.

Dana White got angry about people saying it's racist, called them morons.

Of course, UFC wouldn't let a white guy sport a White Pride tattoo anywhere.

But Brown Pride in giant letters on his freaking chest is apparently cool with UFC.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 27, 2012 09:55 PM (ZPrif)

78 Without reading the article, I'm going to say: æ, đ, þ, ȝ, ƿ, . . . no, that's all I have.

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at December 27, 2012 09:56 PM (mKlzx)

79 I don't see how AW at Allergic2Bull has justified the firing of Loomis. AW's argument is essentially that because he believes LaPierre ought to be imprisoned for his views he cannot therefore give fair treatment to his students (he's a history prof). I disagree that AW has made this case: it's quite possible for someone to believe that their students should be imprisoned and to still grade them according to the merit of their work. That his tweets are acerbic is obvious...that he might hate those students who profess views different than his is plausible...but that he might still grade those students fairly is also plausible. The tweets don't raise any specter of professorial unfairness.

Now, if AW had argued that universities should fire all faculty members with Twitter accounts, then I'd be jumping on that bandwagon.

Posted by: Fabio9000 at December 27, 2012 09:56 PM (WdYfg)

80 And with that, I go back to my book. See you in the morning, hordelings.

Posted by: joncelli at December 27, 2012 09:56 PM (CWlPF)

81 I will never forget when our Brigade Task Force, 2d Bde 1st Inf Div, under the Command of COL Tony Moreno was tasked to secure the Safwan Airfield for the surrender talks. I was a young Captain assigned to TF 2-16 Inf, part of 2Bde, as the Fire Support Officer.

But you didn't get to Safwan first!

Prepared and Loyal!

(HHT 1/4 Cav. 1989-1991)

Duty First! Nice to see another BRO vet here.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 09:56 PM (Kgm0Y)

82 I mean really, that's one soft looking dude. Did he used to be a chick?
Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 09:53 PM (QupBk)


His skin is almost translucent. Like he has never seen the sun, and some sort of blemishes on his face, most likely from and addiction to addarol or some other speed like substance. Yep, he's teaching the future generation.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 09:56 PM (l86i3)

83 Anyone got a dopestick? I'm all out.

Posted by: Retief at December 27, 2012 09:56 PM (jPVBi)

84 I'm watching the Judge Dredd remake and so far, I don't know what you guys didn't like about it. Plenty of the old ultraviolence and Dredd's stony downturned mouth.

What's not to like.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 09:57 PM (QupBk)

85
Russia boosts space spending
Published: 12.27.12, 23:52 / Israel News



The country that oversaw the launch of the world's first artificial satellite hopes to regain some of its former glory with a big boost in space spending announced by Russia on Thursday after a series of failures.

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev approved a plan to spend $68.71 billion on developing Russia's space industry. "The programme will enable our country to effectively participate in forward-looking projects, such as the International Space Station, the study of the Moon, Mars and other celestial bodies in the solar system," Medvedev told state-run RIA news agency. (Reuters)

NASA's budget is in the area of 18 billion? Now I am sure if you add in what the Military spends in space that figure increases however, it still sucks we are seemingly gutting NASA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 09:57 PM (79ueO)

86 MT @ExJon To [find] your #EPASecretEmailName, 1st name is your favorite pet, 2nd is your hometown. Mine is "Chester Toledo."

Mine is "Sushi Columbia"


Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:33 PM (5H6zj)


Tobias (Toby) Atwater.... Sounds like an Edwardian Character.... LOL

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 27, 2012 09:57 PM (lZBBB)

87 TAMMY!!!!! So sorry about all this shit they're shoveling on your bf Tebow, it's disgusting. Have you offered him safe haven until the storm passes? He could do a lot worse . . .

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 09:57 PM (kpCLl)

88 77 White Pride is synonymous with neo Nazi's or KKK right?Brown Pride is just dandy.

Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 09:57 PM (9XBK2)

89 Howdy, howdy.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 09:58 PM (kaalw)

90 Found it:

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/17/
15976160-new-details-emerge-on-private-lives-of-school-gunman-adam-lanza-and-his-mother

"Ellen Adriani and Russell Hanoman, both of whom said they were close friends of Nancy Lanzas, said the 52-year-old single mother was devoted to her youngest son, whom they described as intelligent, mild-mannered and socially awkward. He also had an aversion to human contact, they said.
Hanoman, who said he had met Adam on several occasions, recalled him as a very mild-mannered young man who was interested in technology and engineering and liked to maintain his distance from other people.
{snip}
Adam Lanza also was an organic vegan with a conservative worldview, he said.
He was actually politically aware for a teenager, he said. He was always very free-market economics and capitalism, as I think most people are in this country.



Bear in mind that this is from NBC and from early reporting, so Lord only knows if it's accurate.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:58 PM (5H6zj)

91 Hi chemjeff! I am completely missing the entire Velma story you know....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 09:58 PM (66ST/)

92 Also, Bing Crosby & David Bowie - The Little Drummer Boy / Peace On Earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXjbI3kRus&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 09:58 PM (QupBk)

93 Russia boosts space spending

Thank God, we're gonna need a ride.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 09:58 PM (l86i3)

94 84 The reviews I saw were very positive,especially from Dredd comic fans.

Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 09:59 PM (9XBK2)

95 Assimov and Clarke?

Fuck that. I'll take God. He gave me free will so that the Marxists would have something to destroy.

Go for it. I'll die first.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 27, 2012 09:59 PM (zrM7+)

96 Russia boosts space spending

Thank God, we're gonna need a ride.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 09:58 PM (l86i3)


Yeah but remember we used to kids from there also until Putin stopped that as of today.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:00 PM (79ueO)

97 Intellectual elitism and a distrust of democracy are science fiction's Original Sin, going right back to good old H.G. Wells who wanted to let a caste of "scientific samurai" run the world.

It shows up in lots of writers' work: Heinlein flirted with it, as did Poul Anderson (both of whom derived it from Rudyard Kipling, I suspect). More recently you see it in Bujold and Banks, among others.

One writer who bucked the trend was Alfred Bester: in Stars My Destination his hero gives humanity the secret of an incredibly powerful -- and incredibly dangerous -- energy source and basically says "You guys figure out how to handle it."

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 27, 2012 10:00 PM (hgdEm)

98 Indeed. I still want to know whether she had her
guns locked up and/or how he got to them, seeing as how she was
reportedly trying to have him committed.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 09:54 PM (sdi6R)

I read somewhere that she took off for 3 days on some vaca right before he did this. That he shot her the first morning after she got back. I've also read that she wasn't trying to have him committed, but was trying to push him out of the house into, who knows what, she obviously knew better than anyone what a fuckin' basket case this guy was.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:00 PM (kpCLl)

99 85 Nevergiveup

But is that 68.71 billion in one year or over a period of time? The comparison might not be as bad as it looks.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 10:00 PM (sdi6R)

100 Krugman is not too far off. In the super-secret cabal of do-gooders guiding the fate of the rabble, the young Gendibal deduced that "the Seldon Plan is meaningless."

Krugman's prescriptions are equally disconnected from reality.

Posted by: Phinn at December 27, 2012 10:01 PM (oFH2D)

101 Rest in peace Stormin' Norman.


Jaegermiester is the piss of the devil.


Evening roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:01 PM (yh0zB)

102 MissTammy, well, Velma is a fellow professor here at my university, and she kinda looks like... well, like Velma (but without the thick glasses)

it has become obvious, however, in recent days, that she is way more into me than I am into her. and that is a new thing for me. not sure.

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:01 PM (cnS/d)

103 Capmbell was a great editor.


Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 09:52 PM


And set a pretty high bar as a writer with "Who Goes There?"

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 10:01 PM (yBF/9)

104 And, GGE wraps it all up in 15 words or less. Kudos, my friend!

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:01 PM (kpCLl)

105 DC. Bannion. I do believe we have a quorum. Any business need to be done?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:01 PM (IvVLN)

106 Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 09:57 PM (kpCLl)


Peaches, I'd keep that boy so safe and warm he'd forget what the NFL was!

I wish I knew what the issue was.... I know he's bad, maybe they don't want to lessen his trade value? Maybe they're afraid he'd have a good game and Rex would look like an idiot?

There was also a rumor circulating around FL that he is due a payout if he gets a certain amount of snaps.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:02 PM (66ST/)

107 MT @ExJon To [find] your #EPASecretEmailName, 1st name is your favorite pet, 2nd is your hometown. Mine is "Chester Toledo."

Buddy Fremont.

Sounds almost like the first/original Nutty Professor movie...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 27, 2012 10:02 PM (opLk0)

108 That picture of the URI smug douchebag is fantastic. Fucking beta male pounding his tiny fists in fury. I can't believe they are in charge now.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:02 PM (jucos)

109 Intellectual elitism and a distrust of democracy are science fiction's Original Sin, going right back to good old H.G. Wells who wanted to let a caste of "scientific samurai" run the world.

So, C.S.Lewis was the Anti-Wells then.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:02 PM (QupBk)

110 105 DC. Bannion. I do believe we have a quorum. Any business need to be done? Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:01 PM (IvVLN)

You mean other than our wives?

No, I think we're good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:03 PM (Kgm0Y)

111 The Danish socket looks like a happy face.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 27, 2012 10:03 PM (lpfU8)

112 to ensure that she succeeded.... Aubrey Ireland, a musical theater major

What's wrong with this picture?

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 27, 2012 10:03 PM (79AXR)

113 But is that 68.71 billion in one year or over a period of time? The comparison might not be as bad as it looks.
Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 10:00 PM (sdi6R)


That's true, and I don't know. I took that story from YNet, Israeli News, since the American networks don't seem to care much? But at the moment, they are the only show in town if you want a ride into space.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (79ueO)

114 What's wrong with this picture?

Not enough cleavage?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (Kgm0Y)

115 There's been so much misinformation on this Lanza thing. People who know nothing blabbing, sloppy reporters, people with agendas. There was even some felon who went to the town posing as the kid's uncle and spreading some story about him being on psychoactive drugs.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (5H6zj)

116 Hey a little gift for the guy that published all the addresses of the NYrs with gun permits. Heres his address


Dwight R Worley
23006 139 Ave
Springfield Gardens, NY 11413

But you might want to call him first to let him know youll be dropping in: (71 527-0832

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (l86i3)

117 hi GGE

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (cnS/d)

118 Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 09:58 PM (5H6zj)

Wait... Adam Lanza was a VEGAN???

Explains everything.... THEY are NUTS!

Outlaw Vegans... Bacon for ALL!

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (lZBBB)

119 Ryan hates Tebow because Tim disapproves of foot worship.

Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (9XBK2)

120 Here's an article on the fake uncle:

http://www.newser.com/story/159929/cops-nab-guy-who-posed-as-uncle-of-adam-lanza.html

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:05 PM (5H6zj)

121 Oh, it's a stupid article. ſ was never a letter in its own right, & œ was far too rare to be counted (unlike æ). & that insular "g" glyph was just that, an alternate glyph. Metnal folss is like smart writing for dim bulbs.

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at December 27, 2012 10:05 PM (mKlzx)

122 Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:01 PM (cnS/d)

See, that's the way it is with the menfolk. Always wanting a woman, then when you get one that adores you, you don't want her.

All y'all always want those bitchy, trouble-making wimmenz. Ask me how I know this.


But Thor is very. very happy now, and I was by no means his first or even second or third choice.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:05 PM (66ST/)

123 ENDORSED-> Outlaw Vegans... Bacon for ALL!

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:05 PM (5H6zj)

124
I went to my favorit liquor store tonight to find everything was 40% off. It turns out that it is their last night in business. The owner is in his late 60's and can't take the tax hikes that are coming along with all of the regulatory crap. He is going to take his little dog Copper - who is always in the store - and live in his RV. His one remaining employee is in his late 50's and asked if I knew of any job leads.

The looks of dejection on their faces broke my heart. Damn Barky and his fellow Marxist travelers. I hate them with a passion that I never knew I could ever feel.

Posted by: Cheri at December 27, 2012 10:05 PM (EAgmr)

125 Universities are full of people like thatl; above normal IQ, but socially backward and inept. Tends to think of themselves as superior, but has trouble functioning in the rest of society, and thinks that is because he is so much smarter than the rest of society, but really because he has retarded social skills.

I think he REALLY overestimates his intellect.

The Foundation series was interesting but the idea of psychohistory truly was the dream of both insecure social scientists and totalitarian busybodies.

Just imagine! Social science that isn't pseudointellectual crap! And it works! And you can create a perfect world! And there are no unintended consequences! (It reminded me of the Doctor Who parody in the sidebar with various retcons with time travel.)

Even when libs create utopia in a fantasy world, it's creepy.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 27, 2012 10:05 PM (huD71)

126 Peaches, I'd keep that boy so safe and warm he'd forget what the NFL was!

I know, girl, I know . . . Rex Ryan is a toe-munching shitbag married to an internet ho and I truly wish the best for your Timmy. Although, he'll never find a better place than by your side. Even Thor would understand, I just know it!


Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:06 PM (kpCLl)

127 But is that 68.71 billion in one year or over a period of time? The comparison might not be as bad as it looks.
Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 10:00 PM (sdi6R)


That's true, and I don't know. I took that story from YNet, Israeli News, since the American networks don't seem to care much? But at the moment, they are the only show in town if you want a ride into space.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (79ueO)

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev approved a plan to spend 2.1 trillion rubles ($68.71 billion) on developing Russia's space industry from 2013 to 2020, the state-run RIA news agency reported.

yup your right it is over 7 years--never mind- but we should still be spending more

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:06 PM (79ueO)

128 Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:02 PM (QupBk)

Yeah.... Those dang Anti Pure Democracy Science Fiction guys... not like the Founding Fathers had any problems with Democracy.... oh... wait....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 27, 2012 10:06 PM (lZBBB)

129 I read somewhere that the mom was looking for a college to enroll him in, iirc in Washington (state, I assume).

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (5H6zj)

130 Bannion, shut your face. Cougar is busy un-decorating. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here.

BC: http://pxlpl.us/u57v

Click to embiggen.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (Ai+tZ)

131 Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 10:04 PM (9XBK2)

Only because he hasn't seen mine.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (66ST/)

132 EPA secret email: Gordo Pontiac - sounds like a grindhouse movie.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (9HhTH)

133 But is that 68.71 billion in one year or over a period of time?

It's over 8 years.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/c284j7f

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (lpfU8)

134 Intellectual elitism and a distrust of democracy are science fiction's Original Sin, going right back to good old H.G. Wells who wanted to let a caste of "scientific samurai" run the world.

So, C.S.Lewis was the Anti-Wells then.
Posted by: toby928� for TB at December 27, 2012 10:02 PM (QupBk)


I think Lewis would agree with that, yes. He & Haldane also had their differences, to put it mildly.

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (mKlzx)

135 Tammy, I didn't say that I didn't want her. I am just in a place where I have not been before, that is all.

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (cnS/d)

136 "Stormin Norman Schwarzkopf Dies"
http://bit.ly/10pBFW2

Posted by: sirsurfalot at December 27, 2012 10:08 PM (EEmvK)

137 The looks of dejection on their faces broke my heart. Damn Barky and his fellow Marxist travelers. I hate them with a passion that I never knew I could ever feel.
Posted by: Cheri at December 27, 2012 10:05 PM (EAgmr)


In one of the swankiest areas in Wilmington NC there is a fun store and spa called Sweet and Sassy, Shutting their doors. I know, Swank and Wilmington?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:08 PM (l86i3)

138 Also endorsed-> The looks of dejection on their faces broke my heart. Damn Barky and his fellow Marxist travelers. I hate them with a passion that I never knew I could ever feel.


A lot of people around here are losing hours or their jobs outright because of Obama. G-D prick.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:08 PM (5H6zj)

139 You mean other than our wives?

No, I think we're good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:03 PM (Kgm0Y)



Y'all are gonna have to pick up the slack with your wives. I'm at the in-laws. For another week and a half. And the 2 yr old is on a sleeping bag in the same room as the wife and I.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (IvVLN)

140 The looks of dejection on their faces broke my heart. Damn Barky and his fellow Marxist travelers. I hate them with a passion that I never knew I could ever feel.

Cheri - which one. I live in GJ. Tonight is the last night?

Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (vfUX8)

141 Cougar is busy un-decorating.

And here I thought that was a euphemism for a strip tease.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (Kgm0Y)

142 Why do all these Liberafacist wannabes look like the biggest geeks from High School?

Every single one does.

They all have that "punch my face so fuckin' hard I'll speak in tounges" look on their mugs. The chicks, too.

Weird.

In the chicks' defense, some of them have that hot naughty librarian look going on and I never punch a woman....as long as they qualify on that count.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (zrM7+)

143 ENDORSED-> Outlaw Vegans... Bacon for ALL!

Moved and seconded then. Discussion?

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (QupBk)

144 Denmark's power outlet looks so happy...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (AUeaU)

145 A damned shame the EPA didn't go the sooperdecoder alias name route using the MST3K Alan Steele protocols.

My favorite: Vic Kevlar.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (opLk0)

146 Sadly, Duke is going to lose.

They should've followed my advice and squashed that football into a nice basketball shape...

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:10 PM (5H6zj)

147 And the 2 yr old is on a sleeping bag in the same room as the wife and I.

You damn kids. I have to teach you everything!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:10 PM (Kgm0Y)

148 Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (cnS/d)

Just relax and enjoy the ride, CJ!



Ans yes, Peaches, Thor probably would understand. Which would piss me the hell off!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:11 PM (66ST/)

149 Why UofRI Professor Erik Loomis Should be Fired
***
I've seen a few conservative bloggers arguing that he should not be fired, which perplexes me.

He's called for the death of a public figure, and the imprisonment of those that disagree with him.

Yet so many conservatives are so damn meek that even faced with an obvious case were we should be demanding a scalp, they demure.

This is a big part of the reason we lose. Most of our leadership has neither the will nor the ability to actually fight.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 27, 2012 10:11 PM (AUeaU)

150 Denmark's power outlet looks so happy...

Maybe that's why they're always ranked so high in the happiest nations index.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 27, 2012 10:11 PM (lpfU8)

151 I'm Shiloh Redlands

Posted by: Cheri at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (EAgmr)

152 Moved and seconded then. Discussion?
Posted by: toby928� for TB at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (QupBk)

No, it's been moved & seconded, discussion is over, time for a vote. That's what moving (& seconding) means.

I vote that we require all vegans to register their digestive tracts & be fingerprinted.

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (mKlzx)

153 Romeo: WTF? Seriously, WTF?

I'm pointing out a genuine trend within science fiction, one which has been shown in the real world to lead to Bad Things, and all you can do is throw out trollish nitpicks?

Why don't you open a refreshing can of Shut The Fuck Up and stop demonstrating what an idiot you are, okay?

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (hgdEm)

154 They should've followed my advice and squashed that football into a nice basketball shape...
Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:10 PM (5H6zj)

Well, at least they are in a bowl game. My favorite teams, Wisconsin and Alabama are, oh, nevermind.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (l86i3)

155 I find that the FB group is a lot easier to keep up with than the yahoo group.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (Tt6ky)

156 And here I thought that was a euphemism for a strip tease.

I'm gonna try that line next time she comes in the room. If I disappear suddenly, in the immortal words of Curly Bill: well, bye.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (Ai+tZ)

157
I read a lot of Clarke when I was young, and was always a little troubled by some of his morbid cynicism.

Later he moved to Ceylon (Sri Lanka now) and was fully revealed as a homosexual with a preference for young boys, which was tolerated in Sri Lanka. He even endured getting polio and being crippled to stay there.

While I still like some of his writings, Clarke is really not a healthy mind to evaluate. "Childhood's End" is one really depresssing book.

Asimov was at times funny and clever, but was also pretty full of his own bullshit. One of his bestest pals was Harlan Ellison. Harlan was also a clever writer at times, but really a bit of a sociopath.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (Md8Uo)

158 Why do all these Liberafacist wannabes look like the biggest geeks from High School?
***
They were the unpopular kids in school, so now they want to be the ones on top of the social pyramid. They certainly won't get there by innate abilities, so raw force will have to do.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (AUeaU)

159 143 ENDORSED-> Outlaw Vegans... Bacon for ALL!

Moved and seconded then. Discussion?


Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (QupBk)


Fore Score, and a couple of hours ago, my ForeMother brought forth a New Pound of Bacon.... conceived on a Pig Farm, and dedicated to the propostition that all Men should have tasty Bacon...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (lZBBB)

160 Adam Lanza also was an organic vegan with a conservative worldview, he said.
He was actually politically aware for a teenager, he said. He was always very free-market economics and capitalism, as I think most people are in this country.

Bear in mind that this is from NBC and from early reporting, so Lord only knows if it's accurate.


Bullshit. I smell a raging lib. Somebody who uses the phrase "organic vegan" (I've never even heard of this particular distinction) will always use the term "politically aware" to mean liberal.

Oh, I looked him up here:
http://www.dir.ct.gov/sots/LookUp.aspx
I got his birthdate from an astrology webpage (April 22, 1992). No voter registration.

"Politically aware" my ass.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 27, 2012 10:13 PM (huD71)

161 141 Cougar is busy un-decorating.

-----------

And here I thought that was a euphemism for a strip tease.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM (Kgm0Y)



It's not????

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:13 PM (IvVLN)

162 One writer who bucked the trend was Alfred Bester: in Stars My Destination his hero gives humanity the secret of an incredibly powerful -- and incredibly dangerous -- energy source and basically says "You guys figure out how to handle it."
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 27, 2012 10:00 PM (hgdEm)


The anti-Morbius.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 27, 2012 10:13 PM (zrM7+)

163 If Duke holds on to the loss, I'll be 8 of 10, after I chickened out and changed my underdog pick of SMU at the last minute.

Baylor is my upset choice for the evening.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:13 PM (QupBk)

164
Peaches, chemjeff, good to see you!


chemjeff, I'd whack you in the back of the head if I were there, but since I'm not I'll just send you this:


http://ftf-comics.com/?comic=omars-rebuttal


sigh...I am omar...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:13 PM (yh0zB)

165 There really are no hot liberal professors apparently.

Posted by: NCKate at December 27, 2012 10:14 PM (XwChs)

166 157 Expect to hear from Harlan's lawyer soon!

Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2012 10:14 PM (9XBK2)

167 Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 27, 2012 10:12 PM (Md8Uo)

But Heinlein was the Libertarian of the bunch....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 27, 2012 10:14 PM (lZBBB)

168 Cheri - Which one! I need liquor and am not too buzzed yet.

Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2012 10:14 PM (vfUX8)

169 Been running a 102 fever for three days now. I feel pretty good, other than a cough and some congestion. So glad it's cold. I forgot how much I love the cold weather. Well, I didn't forget, I am just remembering all over again how fabulous it is.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:14 PM (66ST/)

170 Went to the Organic Food Market today to get some Wild Rice. While there I also bought a smoked turkey breast. The emo checker scans it and sends it down the belt to a older lady who refused to touch it. I asked what the problem was and she said she was a vegan and would not touch it. I dropped some mild snark and put it in the fucking bag myself. How these people get along in the world is beyond me. Everyone in that store lived up to some ridiculous libtard stereotype. Every. Single. One.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:14 PM (jucos)

171 Re : Krugman and Foundation.

How egotistical is that? Is it normal? I never read the Foundation series and pictured myself as Hari Seldon, or The Mule, or any of the high status characters ..

I was always the poor schlub trying to figure out what was going to happen next, and how would they get out of it?

Is there something wrong with me?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 27, 2012 10:15 PM (U6sF8)

172 @106

Their are a few things going on here.

The idiot owner basically made a trade for a guy that the head coach and the offensive coordinator did not want and as a result used him as little as possible.

This tension turned Rex's heart black as the season started to slip away and the qb that he chose in the daft falterd and the calls for Tebow grew, instilled what i feel is a hatred for Tebow evidenced by him not playing him and going to the 3rd string qb when even he couldn't deny what was obvious,that Sanchez was done.

And now with Mccalroy suffering a conclusion the obvious choice would veto start Tebow but instead he goes to Sanchez the failure and not the good soldier.


Even though I am a giants fan I has never been a jets hater until now.

The Jets cannot lose often enough as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:15 PM (zOP5o)

173 Just went through the posts for today. The cobs had a lot to say.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 27, 2012 10:15 PM (DoZD+)

174 "Childhood's End" is one really depresssing book
***
But it is the left's dream isn't it? Everyone losing their individually to some collective that will "achieve great things".

Liberals are full of hate and evil, so they want to subsume the self to something that is not inherently vile. And now that they are materialists (more or less) and believe in nothing more then the physical the only way to achieve this dream is some sort of groupthink collective political action.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 27, 2012 10:15 PM (AUeaU)

175 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 27, 2012 10:13 PM (zrM7+)


And note.... in Babylon 5, the PsiCop was... Alfred Bester.... coincidence? or Homage?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 27, 2012 10:16 PM (lZBBB)

176 The Jets cannot lose often enough as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:15 PM (zOP5o)


They need to clean House from the GM on down.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:16 PM (l86i3)

177 Why do all these Liberafacist wannabes look like the biggest geeks from High School? Every single one does. They all have that "punch my face so fuckin' hard I'll speak in tounges" look on their mugs. The chicks, too. Weird.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 27, 2012 10:09 PM

It used to be the bolshevik guerilla look. Or, the soviet strongman. That's out of fashion now. Too obvious and honest. Also it required a certain amount of discipline and effort. It's the hipster poet look these days.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 10:16 PM (yBF/9)

178 Posted by: AmishDude at December 27, 2012 10:13 PM (huD71)

Like we didn't see that coming.

Pffftt, Conservative, my ass. He was a psychotic loner, created by pediatric over-medication.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 27, 2012 10:16 PM (zrM7+)

179 It's not????
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:13 PM (IvVLN)


BC, have you been drinking the stupid juice? I'm here. Obviously, there is not a hardbodied Cougar taking off her clothes anywhere near me. Damnit.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 10:17 PM (Ai+tZ)

180
I forget the name, but it is the onenext toGold's Gym onthe I-70 loop near 32 road. Not the Gold's by the mall.
Sorry - bad with names. All I see is "Liquor" and I go in

Posted by: Cheri at December 27, 2012 10:17 PM (EAgmr)

181 It's interesting to note the different types of outlets in the background of pictures. That way you can tell which country the child prostitutes are likely in.

Uh... wait. I mean... err... Fancy a song?

Posted by: Pete Townshend at December 27, 2012 10:18 PM (qR+xF)

182 Congratulations Duke for winning your first bowl game since 1961............oops.........Congratulations Bearcats for crushing the dreams of Duke.

Posted by: Florida A&M Professor at December 27, 2012 10:18 PM (CakGS)

183 135
Tammy, I didn't say that I didn't want her. I am just in a place where I have not been before, that is all.


Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:07 PM (cnS/d)


Y'know, my mom took me aside one time and said, "It is mathematically impossible for two people to love one another the exact same amount.....and, for your sake, I hope you are always the one that loves less."

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 10:18 PM (kaalw)

184 General, I thought Sporano was a Wild Cat fanboi from the Dolphins? Did he really not want Tebow?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:18 PM (66ST/)

185 Re: Sockets....a lot of multi-prongs, aren't there?

Posted by: Meaningless Drivel at December 27, 2012 10:19 PM (k4wRs)

186 GGE, you are right, I know

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:19 PM (cnS/d)

187 It used to be the bolshevik guerilla look. Or, the soviet strongman. That's out of fashion now. Too obvious and honest. Also it required a certain amount of discipline and effort. It's the hipster poet look these days.
Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 10:16 PM (yBF/9)


The Tom Courtneay "Strelnikov" look from Zhivago.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 27, 2012 10:19 PM (zrM7+)

188 The Jets cannot lose often enough as far as I'm concerned.
Sounds like me and the Bills over Doug Flutie's treatment.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 27, 2012 10:19 PM (jPVBi)

189 144 Denmark's power outlet looks so happy...

There's a chart on the wall where I work. I forget which one it is, but there's one type of American outlet that looks like a guy with an eye injury. He's making an "oh no" face.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 10:19 PM (sdi6R)

190 The emo checker scans it and sends it down the belt to a older lady who refused to touch it. I asked what the problem was and she said she was a vegan and would not touch it.
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Man, I would have been sorely tempted to get the manager and ask why s/he employs someone unwilling to do their job.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (5H6zj)

191 Y'know, my mom took me aside one time and said, "It is mathematically impossible for two people to love one another the exact same amount.....and, for your sake, I hope you are always the one that loves less."
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 10:18 PM (kaalw)


Good advice, I heard it differently, you never want to be the last in love.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (l86i3)

192 So when Feinsten says she wants to ban semi-auto guns with a "military characteristic" what the fuck does that mean? It's scary looking? It's used to kill people? Someone in the military once owned it? What?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (HDgX3)

193 The Jets cannot lose often enough as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:15 PM (zOP5o)


They need to clean House from the GM on down.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:16 PM (l86i3)

Look I am a Jet's fan. Now I don't brag about it, but if I am anything, I am loyal. But even I realize the Jet's are cursed. Joe Namath must have sign with the Devil to win Super Bowl 3. And ya know it might have been worth it. It was a great day, but we are cursed. Us and the Cubs. I've come to terms with that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (79ueO)

194 No, it's been moved & seconded, discussion is over, time for a vote. That's what moving (& seconding) means.

Nope. Seconding gives the motion to the assembly for consideration.

How are Motions Presented?

1. Obtaining the floor
2. Make Your Motion
3. Wait for Someone to Second Your Motion
Another member will second your motion or the Chairman will call for a second.
If there is no second to your motion it is lost.
4. The Chairman States Your Motion
The Chairman will say, "it has been moved and seconded that we ..." Thus placing your motion before the membership for consideration and action.
The membership then either debates your motion, or may move directly to a vote.
Once your motion is presented to the membership by the chairman it becomes "assembly property", and cannot be changed by you without the consent of the members.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (QupBk)

195 Everyone in that store lived up to some ridiculous libtard stereotype. Every. Single. One

If you enjoyed that then I commend to you the Harvest Co-Op located in the heart of Emotopia, Central Square in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

It's conveniently located directly across Mass. Ave from the Center for Marxist Education.

No, I am totally serious.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (Kgm0Y)

196 Thanks Cheri, on my way. Poor guys. Seems to be happening a lot around here.

Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (vfUX8)

197 The cobs had a lot to say.
And some new guy nicknamed Dace.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (jPVBi)

198 Y'know, my mom took me aside one time and said, "It
is mathematically impossible for two people to love one another the
exact same amount.....and, for your sake, I hope you are always the one
that loves less."


Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 10:18 PM (kaalw)

I agree completely! Back when I was having husbands and boyfriends and loves of my life, the most important quality was how much they loved me. This is probably tmi, but I never loved them as much as they loved me. Which was totally cool . . .

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (kpCLl)

199 Oh, sorry. That's "Ace".

Posted by: andycanuck at December 27, 2012 10:21 PM (jPVBi)

200 I wouldn't waste my time with douchebags like loomis. If I know my history his kind will be the first put against the wall when the rebellion happens.

Posted by: Berserker at December 27, 2012 10:21 PM (FMbng)

201 off vile sock



Some pretty good games today. Bowling Green/San Jose St. was good. I guess I'm glad the Spartans won. They had to fly all the way across the country and play in old rickety RFK stadium in DC in late December. The Duke/UCinc game was good until Duke remembered they are a basketball school. Hopefully UCLA/Baylor will be an entertaining shootout.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 27, 2012 10:23 PM (CakGS)

202
Go Infidel!

"Politically aware" my ass.Posted by: AmishDude I've never heard of a conservative that was an organic vegan unless it was medically necessary. Even then....

Posted by: Cheri at December 27, 2012 10:23 PM (EAgmr)

203 So when Feinsten says she wants to ban semi-auto
guns with a "military characteristic" what the fuck does that mean? It's
scary looking? It's used to kill people? Someone in the military once
owned it? What?


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (HDgX3)


Shoulder things that go up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5dT3r_oHoo

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:23 PM (yh0zB)

204 cthulhu, that is very sage advice, thanks

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:24 PM (cnS/d)

205 170
Went to the Organic Food Market today to get some Wild Rice. While
there I also bought a smoked turkey breast. The emo checker scans it
and sends it down the belt to a older lady who refused to touch it. I
asked what the problem was and she said she was a vegan and would not
touch it. I dropped some mild snark and put it in the fucking bag
myself. How these people get along in the world is beyond me. Everyone
in that store lived up to some ridiculous libtard stereotype. Every.
Single. One.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:14 PM (jucos)

___________________
Enjoy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgqf0yX5r4A

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 10:24 PM (HDgX3)

206 @184

No. Rex and soprano did not want Tebow.

You do not put your offensive weapons in to block punts.

You do not continuously run you offensive weapon straight up the gut.

Out of 76 touches Tebow was allowed to throw 7 times. Seven!!!

Rex and soprano are clowns, they both desere to be fired

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:24 PM (zOP5o)

207 Man, I would have been sorely tempted to get the manager and ask why s/he employs someone unwilling to do their job.
Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:20 PM (5H6zj)
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I would have but I couldn't stand being in there any longer. The smug was so thick you could cut it with a knife.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:24 PM (jucos)

208 The smug was so thick you could cut it with a knife.

Did they frown at you not bringing your own natural hemp fiber shopping bag?

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:25 PM (QupBk)

209 Pffftt, Conservative, my ass. He was a psychotic loner, created by pediatric over-medication.

My guess is that any politics he had was similar to the Tucson shooter -- paranoia, conspiracies. Betcha he was a fan of OWS.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 27, 2012 10:25 PM (huD71)

210 Did they frown at you not bringing your own natural hemp fiber shopping bag?
Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:25 PM (QupBk)


Bet he asked for plastic.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:26 PM (l86i3)

211
Robert Heinlein and Arthur Clarke actually worked in the same building for the US Navy during WWII and knew each other well. Also working in that building was Virginia, Robert's third (and last) wife. His "soul mate".

By all accounts, Virginia was a ginger and a real looker, too.


Heinlein was early on a "one worlder" who believed in World Government. He outgrew that eventually, and did, in fact, become something of a Libertarian (and he and Virginia were Methodists, too). "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is maybe his earliest reveal of what kind of Libertarian he was.

I think one of the telling things about Heinlein was that just about everyone who knew him thought he was a great guy. Philip Dick was a political opposite of Heinlein, but Heinlein befriended him, loaned him money when he was sick and had no income, and Philip Dick thought he was a prince of a guy.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 27, 2012 10:27 PM (Md8Uo)

212 160

That's NBC for you. If they can't find some way to call a bad guy a conservative, they'll make it up.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 27, 2012 10:27 PM (Tt6ky)

213 I would have but I couldn't stand being in there any longer. The smug was so thick you could cut it with a knife.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:24 PM (jucos)

Ah, jeez, Truck, every time I am in teh Holy Foods, I get so fuckin' irked by the assholiness of it all, I am sorely tempted to stand outside the door and burn a parlie and watch 'em all freak out before I get in my {non-prius} car and leave.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:27 PM (kpCLl)

214 No. Rex and soprano did not want Tebow.

You do not put your offensive weapons in to block punts.

You do not continuously run you offensive weapon straight up the gut.

Out of 76 touches Tebow was allowed to throw 7 times. Seven!!!

Rex and soprano are clowns, they both desere to be fired
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:24 PM (zOP5o)


This season had disaster written all over it from the minute they signed Tebow. And I have nothing against Tebow, but his signing made no sense for anybody, including Tebow. Now the Jets would have sucked anyway since they had no skilled players at the skill positions and a sub par Offensive Line. But signing Tebow made the season a joke

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:27 PM (79ueO)

215 GGE, you are right, I know


Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:19 PM (cnS/d)


An odd bit, this, where you have someone right where she wants you...almost...and you're not quite sure how you feel about that. You can either play it safe and retreat back into the shell she is dragging you out of...or you can risk total annihilation.

The down side to taking this risk is that occasionally you will be annihilated.
Totally worth it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:27 PM (yh0zB)

216 193 Joe Namath must have sign with the Devil to win Super Bowl 3.

They used Arabic numbers back in those days?

What are we up to now, LVXCMCIIV?

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (sdi6R)

217 Rex and soprano are clowns, they both desere to be fired
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:24 PM (zOP5o)


I'll take your word for it! I sure as heck don't get the way this all went down. I mean, I am definitely blinded by lust for Tebow, and despite that even I know he isn't very good at QB, but Sanchez has been atrocious.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (66ST/)

218 Joe Namath must have sign with the Devil to win Super Bowl 3.

They used Arabic numbers back in those days?

What are we up to now, LVXCMCIIV?
Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (sdi6R)

??? Hell if I know. Jet's fans stopped counting after 3.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (79ueO)

219 Socket frocket.............got distracted there for a moment. If any etts are headed to italy and need a hair dryer or and a hair straightner I have both. Now onto the serious shit. H has bladder cancer. I posted awhile back about the ER trip with the blood and pissing issues. Official it's a tumor and not good. I won't ask for prayers knowing that a small minority won't go for that but good thoughts would be appreciated. I have never seen someone change so much with the thought they might die. I am living with a whole new man.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (ibZz4)

220 Ah, jeez, Truck, every time I am in teh Holy Foods, I get so fuckin' irked by the assholiness of it all, I am sorely tempted to stand outside the door and burn a parlie and watch 'em all freak out before I get in my {non-prius} car and leave.
Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:27 PM (kpCLl)


Parlie, no shit Parliment? God I like you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:29 PM (l86i3)

221 Did they frown at you not bringing your own natural hemp fiber shopping bag?
Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 10:25 PM (QupBk)
-----------------------------------------------------
They gave me a nice paper bag with handles. For the price of their shit the emo checker should have gone down on me too.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:29 PM (jucos)

222 O/T

So what's up with this Chuck Hagel nomination? The guy's a Republican right, but also anti-Israel, right? Was the point to have a few weeks of calling a Republican a Jew-hater or did Obama really think this guy would get approved?

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:29 PM (5H6zj)

223 But signing Tebow made the season a joke

No, the joke started when they did Hard Knocks


Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:29 PM (Kgm0Y)

224
[i[The emo checker scans it and sends it down the belt to a older lady who refused to touch it. I asked what the problem was and she said she was a vegan and would not touch it. Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:14 PM (jucos)

You should've blown it out. "What? The FOOD HERE IS CONTAMINATED??? Why won't you touch it??"

Said loudly enough, that would've done it, and at least gotten the old bitch to pull in her horns in the future.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (4u2LN)

225 So what's up with this Chuck Hagel nomination? The guy's a Republican right, but also anti-Israel, right? Was the point to have a few weeks of calling a Republican a Jew-hater or did Obama really think this guy would get approved?
Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:29 PM (5H6zj)

Well also turns out he hates Gays, so now the libs are hating on him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (79ueO)

226 Tebow, and despite that even I know he isn't very good at QB,


Based on what? He hasn't played this year and last year he won a ton of games, including a playoff game at Pittsburgh.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (IvVLN)

227 @214

It certainly did but Rex compounded it by not going away from Sanchez earlier.

If he did they might, might have made the playoffs and now the team is going to be blown apart.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (zOP5o)

228 So what's up with this Chuck Hagel nomination? The
guy's a Republican right, but also anti-Israel, right? Was the point to
have a few weeks of calling a Republican a Jew-hater or did Obama really
think this guy would get approved?

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:29 PM (5H6zj)

_____________________
A little bit of both. The MFM calls Republicans Jew haters for 2 weeks and Obama has a Jew hater at State. Win-Win.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (HDgX3)

229 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:27 PM (yh0zB)


GGE is a wise, wise man!

With excellent taste in women, I might add!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (66ST/)

230 I won't ask for prayers knowing that a small
minority won't go for that but good thoughts would be appreciated. I
have never seen someone change so much with the thought they might die.
I am living with a whole new man.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (ibZz4)

Sweetie, you will get prayers. I'm sure lots of them. And a big fakey internet hug, too. {{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:31 PM (kpCLl)

231 That Chinese socket is incredibly racist.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 27, 2012 10:31 PM (NzBQO)

232 So yesterday at work I was tossing around spools of wire like they were nothing...and today I'm flat on my back with a vibrating heating pad on the sore spots.


I'm also internally applying Widmer Brothers Rotator IPA, made with grapefruit, for the pain. Delish! These Widmer Brothers, fucking GENIUSES I'm telling you!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:31 PM (yh0zB)

233 You can either play it safe and retreat back into the shell she is dragging you out of...or you can risk total annihilation.

The down side to taking this risk is that occasionally you will be annihilated.
Totally worth it.

---

+1

No pain, no gain.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:31 PM (5H6zj)

234 Molly K, oh man that is awful I am so sorry

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:32 PM (cnS/d)

235 >>>See, that's the way it is with the menfolk. Always wanting a woman, then when you get one that adores you, you don't want her.

This is due to the dog-chase-car syndrome. I developed this theory in college in the '70s.

Dog sees car. Dog chases car. Dog catches car (at stop sign). Dog has no further interest.

I have no clue why this is. It just is.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, is no longer chasing cars at December 27, 2012 10:32 PM (4Mv1T)

236 Molly K. Prayers from over here too.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:32 PM (IvVLN)

237 Based on what? He hasn't played this year and last year he won a ton of games, including a playoff game at Pittsburgh.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (IvVLN)

Spotscenter and the rest of the Libtard sporties Palinize him like a MF. He's prolly an average QB, but he is a leader and most importantly, a winner.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:32 PM (l86i3)

238 Posted by: Molly k. at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (ibZz4)

Molly, my FIL has bladder cancer. Good treatment options with high survivability rates. Hang in there. Prayers for you and H heading your way.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:32 PM (Kgm0Y)

239 Molly K. I'm so sorry to hear that. It really puts things in perspective. I'm sending good thoughts and prayers your way for you and H. Hang in there girl.

Posted by: Cheri at December 27, 2012 10:33 PM (EAgmr)

240 A little bit of both. The MFM calls Republicans Jew haters for 2 weeks and Obama has a Jew hater at State. Win-Win.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (HDgX3)


Actually, that would be Defense....at State, it's pretty much a given.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 10:33 PM (kaalw)

241 "parlie"

Nice choice. Lucky Strikes also good, or bare-assed Camel. Old Gold, if you can find them. They're responsible for the voice of Tom Waits.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 27, 2012 10:33 PM (AMoyz)

242 232 So yesterday at work I was tossing around spools of wire like they were nothing...and today I'm flat on my back with a vibrating heating pad on the sore spots.

Ouch!

FWIW, I fell and hurt my back a couple of weeks ago. Got a lot of relief from those Salonpas thingies. Funny name, but they really helped.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:33 PM (5H6zj)

243 @217

Based on his entire body of work, Tebow is a really good QB and a leader, something the jets have never had.

Oh and joe Namath is quite possibly the most overrated athlete to ever play in any sport let alone football.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:34 PM (zOP5o)

244 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (IvVLN)

Based on that he throws a football like he's pitching a baseball, at least that's what it looks like to me.

I don't know much about football, but I know plenty about baseball and IMHO, that boy was born to be a baseball player.

(Full Disclosure: There is a slight possibility that my love of baseball and lust for Tebow has merged into a Major Fantasy and is clouding my judgement. But he does have a beautiful pitching motion)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:34 PM (66ST/)

245 Prayers for your husband, Molly.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:34 PM (5H6zj)

246 The Organics R Us by me is a weird one. The hippies are outnumbered by rednecks. The parking lot is more F150 king cab than Prius. And yet at the Walmart parking lot....full of Subarus and Priuses. The most odd thing.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 10:34 PM (HDgX3)

247 Posted by: Molly k. at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (ibZz4)

Holy crap, I will pray for you. Many times the support network in a sick persons life forgets to take care of themselves. Think about it and Prayer sent.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:35 PM (l86i3)

248 Spotscenter and the rest of the Libtard sporties Palinize him like a MF. He's prolly an average QB, but he is a leader and most importantly, a winner.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:32 PM (l86i3)




All I know is that the guy succeeds to the highest of levels at every stage. He set all kinds of records at Florida, including several PASSING records. I'd sure like to, as he said, "Judge him based on his performance on the field."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:35 PM (IvVLN)

249 Actually, that would be Defense....at State, it's pretty much a given.


Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 10:33 PM (kaalw)

___________
Right. Like it matters. Kerry, Hagel, Hillary....all the same shit.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 10:35 PM (HDgX3)

250 Late to the game and haven't read other comments but,
"Despite this success, her parents often drove 600 miles from their home in Leawood, Kansas, to visit her unannounced and to accuse her of promiscuity, of using drugs and of having mental issues."

She's a theater major. If she's a promiscuous drug user who has mental issues she should fit right into the entertainment industry. She'll make boatloads of money, waste it all on blow and low rent deadbeat sex partners, make lawyers rich defending her, and spend a few weeks in rehab babbling to counselors every year.

The next Lindsey Lohan, Cher, Charlie Sheen, Nick Nolte, et al.
Her parents will be happier if they just accept it and move on with their lives.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 27, 2012 10:35 PM (9lZO4)

251 GGE is a wise, wise man!



With excellent taste in women, I might add!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (66ST/)



Not so much wise as experienced. You know how you get to be experienced?


By fucking up a lot. But you have to live through it, so there is that.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (ibZz4)


I hate this fucking disease.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:35 PM (yh0zB)

252 But he does have a beautiful pitching motion

If You Know What She Means And We Think That You Do.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:36 PM (Kgm0Y)

253 Molly k, you can count on my prayers! Bladder cancer is very treatable if caught early.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:36 PM (66ST/)

254 Kerry, Hagel, Hillary.........wait, they are all schmucks!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 27, 2012 10:36 PM (Md8Uo)

255 Nerdygirl - who are you talking about?

Posted by: Cheri at December 27, 2012 10:37 PM (EAgmr)

256 Molly k, to cover all bases, sending prayers AND good thoughts.

Posted by: Museisluse at December 27, 2012 10:37 PM (SsWgR)

257 vibrating heating pad


Does this thing have a name and is it available at Wal-Mart?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:37 PM (66ST/)

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:38 PM (yh0zB)

259 I'm okay with Namath as long as Kurt Warner gets into the Hall of Fame. Namath's record as a starter is 62-63-4 with `173 TD's to 220 int.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 27, 2012 10:38 PM (NzBQO)

260 Does this thing have a name and is it available at Wal-Mart?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:37 PM (66ST/)




LMFAO

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:38 PM (IvVLN)

261 Oh and joe Namath is quite possibly the most overrated athlete to ever play in any sport let alone football.
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:34 PM (zOP5o)

Actually that is not true at all. At Alabama before he tore-up both his knees Bear Bryant said he was the best Athlete he ever coached. The truth is by the time he got to the AFL/NFL he was on 2 of the worst wheels in sports. But he still had a great arm and guts. He stood in there and took every hit, hits that would be illegal today and never complained. Joe's ok in my book.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:38 PM (79ueO)

262 If You Know What She Means And We Think That You Do.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:36 PM (Kgm0Y)

I think we all know what she means, Sean . . . except, perhaps, the hapless and physically revolting Professor Loomis, who would still be unable to buy a clue if you spotted him the first 3 letters.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:39 PM (kpCLl)

263 Got a lot of relief from those Salonpas thingies. Funny name, but they really helped.

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2012 10:33 PM (5H6zj)


I'll have to look into it.

Does this thing have a name and is it available at Wal-Mart?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:37 PM (66ST/)


Probably. You can get everything else there.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:39 PM (yh0zB)

264 226; Based on what? He hasn't played this year and last year he won a ton of games, including a playoff game at Pittsburgh.


That game was in Denver and fuck you for reminding me. grumble grumble

Posted by: puddleglum at December 27, 2012 10:39 PM (CakGS)

265 Anyone else besides me think the Turkish Airlines commercials are weird? Kobe Bryant and some soccer guy I've never heard of competing for the affections of some little kid. Creepy and weird.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:39 PM (jucos)

266 If You Know What She Means And We Think That You Do.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:36 PM (Kgm0Y)


Oh my. Have I said something vulgar?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:40 PM (66ST/)

267 Good evening.

Anyone else think the the Icelandic/Brazilian socket looks like one of the three eyed alien dolls from Toy Story?

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:40 PM (LUnTP)

268 except, perhaps, the hapless and physically revolting Professor Loomis, who would still be unable to buy a clue if you spotted him the first 3 letters.

I have a cluebat in my trunk that might help him.

No, that's not a metaphor.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:40 PM (Kgm0Y)

269 Icelandic...pardon me, Swiss.

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:40 PM (LUnTP)

270 Thank you to all....I appreciate it very much.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 27, 2012 10:41 PM (ibZz4)

271 Still here. And got suckered into helping too.

For Christmas, Cougar got me a bottle of Woodford Reserve Double Oaked. I know there are some woodford fans around here, and I highly recommend it. Not as strong as, say, Bakers or Bookers, but hands down the best bourbon I've ever had.

*stuffs lighted wicker Rudolph into box*

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 10:41 PM (Ai+tZ)

272
The Foundation series is crap -- didn't always think that -- and Asimov's BS to link it to his Robots series is crap.

And Paul Krugman is a horse's ass.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 27, 2012 10:41 PM (Jcd0S)

273 @254

The depths of this administrations suckitude know no bounds.

It's not enough the odious joe Biden is the vp, but he has upped the anti with a military hating secretary of state pick and a Jew hating secdef pick.

I can't stand it!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:41 PM (zOP5o)

274 The Rhode Island professor wants a person who holds view different from his own arrested and kept in jail.
Remember the good old days when academics stood for open discussion of issues, listening to both sides.

No kidding. I was in college from '68-'72 and they really did believe in listening to all viewpoints as long as people justified their arguments. Also, they weren't as predictably leftwing as they are today, and they seldom discussed politics unless students brought it up. I really hope that someone at Loomis' university explains freedom of speech to him. Or else sends him on a long sabbatical to Cuba.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 27, 2012 10:41 PM (9lZO4)

275 All of you roonz and roonettez stuck in the snow I hope you are safe and warm. Mom keeps wondering why I don't move back to the Midwest now I'm USN-Retarded. This is why. This and the whole "no jobs for me there" thing.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:42 PM (yh0zB)

276 Good thoughts headed your way Molly. Cancer sucks but it's the anxiety that it brings that is the worst. First hand experience.

Posted by: NCKate at December 27, 2012 10:42 PM (XwChs)

277 Ciao Molly K - prayers and good thoughts are already on their way for you and H.

If you want to get a lot more prayers going, you can even email the Fr. Solanus Casey Center and the friars will pray with you .http://tinyurl.com/d94zg9u

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 27, 2012 10:43 PM (53riN)

278 Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:41 PM (zOP5o)

With God as my witness, I do not know how I am going to make it til he's gone.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:43 PM (66ST/)

279 *stuffs lighted wicker Rudolph into box*

Please, please tell me that's NOT a euphemism.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:43 PM (Kgm0Y)

280 Icelandic...pardon me, Swiss.
Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:40 PM (LUnTP)


Now see, I was so Jealous that you knew the country of all the flags, so I went to look and felt like an idiot cause I knew about half. But hooray, I'm not totally ignorant.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:43 PM (l86i3)

281 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:43 PM (66ST/)

Good friends, good food, good booze and good sex.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 10:44 PM (GsoHv)

282 With God as my witness, I do not know how I am going to make it til he's gone.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:43 PM (66ST/)
---------------------------------------------------------
This. Made worse by the fact that I was SURE that Mittens was going to win. How could he lose going up against Jimmah Carteh on steroids?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:44 PM (jucos)

283 279 *stuffs lighted wicker Rudolph into box*

--------------

Please, please tell me that's NOT a euphemism.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 27, 2012 10:43 PM (Kgm0Y)




Rule #1!!!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 10:44 PM (IvVLN)

284 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:42 PM (yh0zB)


You must be in eastern NC? I grew up on the GA/NC border and we got plenty of snow.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:44 PM (66ST/)

285 Oh my. Have I said something vulgar?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:40 PM (66ST/)


Not yet, but we keep hoping...

That Adele looks to be a pleasing handful, plus she's got a set of pipes on her. Too bad she's so young.

I'd still hit it, but I promise I'd feel like a dirty old man for the entire five seconds or so...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:45 PM (yh0zB)

286 @278


Be brave, conserve your energy, wait for a sign.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:45 PM (zOP5o)

287 good sex.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 10:44 PM (GsoHv)

My husband and I are apart til next Fall, save for a few quick trips and I don't drink.

I am beyond doomed.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:46 PM (66ST/)

288 wait for a sign.
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:45 PM (zOP


I keep wondering about this new comet.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:47 PM (66ST/)

289 *stuffs lighted wicker Rudolph into box*

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 10:41 PM (Ai+tZ)


Dude, you're gonna burn the house down. Put that out.

Tammy, in the Piedmont, just north of Raleigh. If it snows here we shut the place down.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:47 PM (yh0zB)

290 All I know is that the guy succeeds to the highest of levels at every
stage. He set all kinds of records at Florida, including several PASSING
records. I'd sure like to, as he said, "Judge him based on his
performance on the field."


The NFL institutionally hates anyone who doesn't play their position in a cookie-cutter manner. It's hard to remember now, but Michael Vick was NFL Enemy #1 back when he first started simply because he could run very well, and they didn't do that in the sainted 1960s so it's obviously wrong.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 27, 2012 10:47 PM (OevbG)

291 Posted by: Molly k. at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (ibZz4)

1. I don't pray, but I am not offended in the least that you have asked for prayers. It is a wonderful request, and in this country especially it will be rewarded with heartfelt prayers.

2. Bladder cancer is treatable and survivable. He'll die of something else. Hopefully not for a long, long time.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 10:48 PM (GsoHv)

292 Heart covering Zep's Stairway To Heaven.

Ho.

Lee.

SHIT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ0XNlPCcI4

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:48 PM (LUnTP)

293 Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 10:41 PM (Ai+tZ)

Are you left-handed?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 10:49 PM (GsoHv)

294 MISS TAMMYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

*Waves*

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:49 PM (LUnTP)

295 Hey Robert! What's this I hear about you liking show tunes?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:50 PM (66ST/)

296 but Michael Vick was NFL Enemy #1 back when he first started simply because he could run very well, and they didn't do that in the sainted 1960s so it's obviously wrong.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 27, 2012 10:47 PM (OevbG)

Well
A) Vick is an idiot
B) he is stupid
C) he has a strong arm but inaccurate and no touch and by the way did I say he is stupid
D) he doesn't know when to slide, get down, or get out of bounds so he is always hurt because he is an idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:50 PM (79ueO)

297 Out of Rotator IPA. I haz a


Oh look...Drifter! Nectar of the Gods, I haz a

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:50 PM (yh0zB)

298 The Chinese socket is slanted the wrong way.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2012 10:51 PM (sdi6R)

299 Well
A) Vick is an idiot
B) he is stupid
C) he has a strong arm but inaccurate and no touch and by the way did I say he is stupid
D) he doesn't know when to slide, get down, or get out of bounds so he is always hurt because he is an idiot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:50 PM (79ueO)

Oh and having said all that, he'll probably be a Jet next year!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:52 PM (79ueO)

300 With God as my witness, I do not know how I am going to make it til he's gone.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:43 PM (66ST/)
Tammy, I've been feeling the same way. Christmas (Christmas!!) was like a chore for me, I wasn't feeling it. When I woke up the day after Christmas (otherwise known as "yesterday"), I had my usual chat with teh Big Guy and expressed my disbelief. And, I had a little epiphany. I thought, damn, there's been plague and pestilence and famine and horrific wars and who ever promised me that the age of innocence I grew up in would last forever? Nobody. There is nothing special about me or the rest of us. We're in for some dark days and there is absolutely nothing special about it. Just pull in and concentrate on what is close and good and realize that these are cycles that mankind goes through. We in the shit. We're not the first and we won't be the last. Will I live to see it get better? Probably not, but I can find plenty to be grateful for and I have resolved to narrow my field of vision and try to remain in that place of gratitude.Yeah, I know, it sounds kinda stupid, but it was a real moment and I am going to try and roll with it.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:52 PM (kpCLl)

301 Showtunes for Robert



http://tinyurl.com/bqxwf87

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:52 PM (yh0zB)

302 @296

And rg3 is everything that Vick wishes he could be, but if he doesn't start playing smarter when he runs with the ball he's going to get blown up.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:53 PM (zOP5o)

303 What's this I hear about you liking show tunes?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:50 PM (66ST/)

My forbidden passion lovely weather we're having, wouldn't you say?

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:53 PM (LUnTP)

304 Hola Roberto

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 10:54 PM (cnS/d)

305 Peaches, that was pretty effin' inspiring. I needed that in the worst way. Thank you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:54 PM (66ST/)

306 Howdy, Jefe! How's it shakin'?

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:54 PM (LUnTP)

307 If the jets sign Vick then you know the owner is just about winning the back page and nothing more.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:55 PM (zOP5o)

308 Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:50 PM (79ueO)

Faster LBs will kill a scrambling QB. The only advantage that Tebow has is that he can run down a LB because he is so damned big and strong.

But the Jets will never use him, because Woody Johnson chose him without consulting Ryan and that idiot GM.

They should all be fired.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 10:55 PM (GsoHv)

309 So I'm listening to Greta over my shoulder and some alternative lifestyle metro Douche is Corpse humping dead celebrities, He gets to Whitney Houston and him and greta get all sad. Hey, guess what, When your in you 50's you don't stice you face in a sugar bowl full of coke then chase it with booze and pills, bad shit happens. I hope Costner got to hit that when she was young, she was good looking. Then later? not so much. Its like my friend from south central told me once, Crack hos are OK, but you gots to get to em before they stops wipn they asses.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:55 PM (l86i3)

310 And rg3 is everything that Vick wishes he could be, but if he doesn't start playing smarter when he runs with the ball he's going to get blown up.
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:53 PM (zOP5o)


yeah he has to be careful. The players in the NFL are so much bigger and faster than they were in the 60s. And so does that guy Wilson in Seattle. I mean he looks pretty good also. But RG3 seems like he has a great head on his shoulders.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (79ueO)

311 Alarm clock makes noise in 6 hours. Guess its bedtime.

Night all. Stupid alarm clock.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (Ai+tZ)

312 http://tinyurl.com/bqxwf87
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:52 PM (yh0zB)

I wuv you.

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (LUnTP)

313
If y'all get to feeling too down about things, just sit down and take a deep breath.


Then consider the alternative.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (SAMxH)

314 Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:53 PM (LUnTP)

First you get all skinny, now this. I am beginning to doubt you are even my son.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (66ST/)

315 "255 Nerdygirl - who are you talking about?
Posted by: Cheri"

Sorry, Cheri, the music theater college student who got a court order against her over protective parents for stalking her.

They said they had to watch her because she was promiscuous, used drugs, and had mental issues.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (9lZO4)

316 And rg3 is everything that Vick wishes he could be, but if he doesn't start playing smarter when he runs with the ball he's going to get blown up.
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:53 PM (zOP5o)
------------------------------------------------------
Great kid. Smart. Role model. You are right though. If he keeps leaving the pocket and running around like he has he is going to get his career cut short by some guy that is 6'6", 350 pounds.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (jucos)

317 This season had disaster written all over it from
the minute they signed Tebow. And I have nothing against Tebow, but his
signing made no sense for anybody, including Tebow. Now the Jets would
have sucked anyway since they had no skilled players at the skill
positions and a sub par Offensive Line. But signing Tebow made the
season a joke

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:27 PM (79ueO)

When an owner gets a player that the coach doesn't want, there is only 4 ways it will go:1. Player sits on the bench, owner and fans get pissed, team doesn't win, coach gets fired.2. Player plays, owner and fans are happy, team doesn't win, coach gets fired.
3. Player doesn't play, team wins, fans and owner are happy, but always wonder how much better it would have been with player. Rift between owner and coach starts, any struggle in the future gets the coach fired.
4. Player plays, team wins, fans and owner both estatic, coach gets fired because owner knows more.
This is why every coach wants input on player personnel. If they don't have what they need to win, they shouldn't be judged on their wins and losses. NFL teams can only dress 46 players for a game. The punter, kicker, QB, long snapper, backup QB, starting left tackle, are all set in stone, and most teams don't carry a 3rd QB on the 46 man roster because once you do that, you start having a hard time filling out a KO, KO return, punt and punt return teams. Once you realize that about 26 players are pretty much not going to play on those teams, you are left with 20 players. A 3rd QB to run the wildcat becomes a luxury that most teams don't want, so they would rather run the wildcat with a running back or wide receiver that can also play on all the special teams.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (Zd/NW)

318 It's always the little shit that bugs me...the books are out of order in the picture. And nobody noticed.

Posted by: butternut at December 27, 2012 10:57 PM (nbYoV)

319 The Mule. I know who that is - how can you miss it?

Posted by: sherlock at December 27, 2012 10:57 PM (f29LO)

320 Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:50 PM (79ueO)

I was watching a show on the NFL Network and Jimmy Johnson was talking to the Hoody, the hoody says, "I told my staff if I ever hire another stupid player to hit me in the head with a hammer.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 10:58 PM (l86i3)

321
Posted by: Molly k. at December 27, 2012 10:28 PM (ibZz4)


My Dad is going through that now. After several operations and courses of treatment he is finally looking like he beat it, at 70 years old. Cancer isn't the sentence it was a hundred years ago. Bladder cancer is definitely a beatable diagnoses.

Tell him to keep his chin up, and remember to keep yours up as well.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at December 27, 2012 10:58 PM (ial2b)

322 Peaches, that was pretty effin' inspiring. I needed that in the worst way. Thank you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:54 PM (66ST/)

Girl, I have just been thinking that we simply cannot go on this way, bitching and crabbing and depressed and angry. It's bad for the body and bad for the soul. And if the view isn't going to change, then the perspective has to. I just can't do it anymore, it's too dispiriting.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 10:58 PM (kpCLl)

323 Night all. Stupid alarm clock.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (Ai+tZ)


Thanks for the reminder, I got to get up in the AM and take the car to the shop, The front tilt motor on the drivers seat stopped working. Of course you have to change them as a set with the seat track. About 5 bills in parts alone, and I drove it out of warranty last summer. FML.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 10:58 PM (yh0zB)

324 But RG3 seems like he has a great head on his shoulders.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (79ueO)

Bright kid. Hopefully he will learn his position and figure out that he can't go toe-to-toe with LBs and safeties. At least not every play. it sure is fun to watch though.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 10:58 PM (GsoHv)

325 First you get all skinny, now this. I am beginning to doubt you are even my son.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (66ST/)

Don't be disappointed, ma!

It just happens that I saw Les Miserables yesterday and came back with a positive recommendation and suddenly I got a reputation.

Posted by: Robert probably shouldn't mention he owns The Sound Of Music at December 27, 2012 10:59 PM (LUnTP)

326 @310

I'm a giants fan and even i can see that rg3 is solid at qb.

He has probably the best play action I have ever seen and his accuracy is freakish.

Solid, solid qb.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:59 PM (zOP5o)

327 Bright kid. Hopefully he will learn his position and figure out that he can't go toe-to-toe with LBs and safeties. At least not every play. it sure is fun to watch though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 10:58 PM (GsoHv)


yup. Did you see that Wilson Kid in Seattle?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:59 PM (79ueO)

328 Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:48 PM (LUnTP)

Wow!!! Nice catch, Roberto!! Very cool.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:00 PM (kpCLl)

329 Molly k,
I've known people who had cancer 10 years or more ago and are still cancer free.

Help him stay positive. My prayers are with you.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 27, 2012 11:00 PM (9lZO4)

330 I wuv you.

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 10:56 PM (LUnTP)


I'm here for you man.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 11:01 PM (yh0zB)

331
I'm a giants fan and even i can see that rg3 is solid at qb.

He has probably the best play action I have ever seen and his accuracy is freakish.

Solid, solid qb.
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:59 PM (zOP5o)

Good Military parents. Even if they are Army

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 11:01 PM (79ueO)

332 yup. Did you see that Wilson Kid in Seattle?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:59 PM (79ueO)


I watched him in Wisconsin. He is very special. I'm thinking Seahawks, Broncos Super Bowl.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:01 PM (l86i3)

333 I wanted to be like Hari Seldon like a child. Then I learned about chaos theory. As a child.

Also, just got back from the Hobbit. I largely agree with Ace's review. However, I liked it despite its flaws. Three stars out of four.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 27, 2012 11:01 PM (I2LwF)

334 I watched him in Wisconsin. He is very special. I'm thinking Seahawks, Broncos Super Bowl.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:01 PM (l86i3)


And they picked him up in the 3rd round right? Great pick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 11:02 PM (79ueO)

335 Peaches, you are absolutely right. No matter how bad it seems, it ain't that bad.


And with that, I'm out since I have to be up in the AM. Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 11:02 PM (yh0zB)

336 Wow!!! Nice catch, Roberto!! Very cool.
Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:00 PM (kpCLl)

It's got people talking.

And apparently there's also a live cover of that same song on Heart's 2004 reissue of their album, Little Queen, that Amazon now appears to be selling out of.

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 11:02 PM (LUnTP)

337 And with that, I'm out since I have to be up in the AM. Later roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 11:02 PM (yh0zB)

Good night, save your back, you aint 20 no more.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:03 PM (l86i3)

338 I'm here for you man.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 11:01 PM (yh0zB)

You're too good to me.

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 11:03 PM (LUnTP)

339 Did you see that Wilson Kid in Seattle?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 10:59 PM (79ueO)

Another great athlete with a brain. i love that shit.

And they kicked the crap out of the 49ers. That was ugly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:03 PM (GsoHv)

340 Good night, Geeg!

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 11:03 PM (LUnTP)

341 I myself would love to go toe-to-toe with some LB and safeties. Charlie Waters was my first football crush and I the things I'd do to Clay Matthews would get me the banhammer if I talked about 'em.

Even if he is a blonde.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:03 PM (66ST/)

342 Night GGE, night DC!


RG3 is awesome. Very very nice young man.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:04 PM (66ST/)

343 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:03 PM (66ST/)

Yep, I got my wife a Clay Mathews Jersey for her Birthday, she wears it a little too much.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:04 PM (l86i3)

344 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2012 11:05 PM (JMmQ9)

345 Oh God help me, Robert..... Le Miz, really?? Is KFD in it or something???

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:05 PM (66ST/)

346 Went to the Organic Food Market today to get some Wild Rice. While
there I also bought a smoked turkey breast. The emo checker scans it
and sends it down the belt to a older lady who refused to touch it. I
asked what the problem was and she said she was a vegan and would not
touch it. I dropped some mild snark and put it in the fucking bag
myself. How these people get along in the world is beyond me. Everyone
in that store lived up to some ridiculous libtard stereotype. Every.
Single. One.


The turkey was probably vegan ,too. Shoulda been pals!

Posted by: freeTibet with purchase ofequal or greater value Tibet at December 27, 2012 11:05 PM (quLHy)

347 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:05 PM (66ST/)

Hey, I like Le Miz.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:06 PM (l86i3)

348 Yep, I got my wife a Clay Mathews Jersey for her Birthday, she wears it a little too much.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:04 PM (l86i3)



Heh, I got a 52 Shades Of Clay T-shirt from one of my cousins who was tired of my Tebow jerseys.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:07 PM (66ST/)

349 Plastics are choking the ocean, man. Anybody who wears a plastic ID badge is complicit in murder and should be locked up until they die.

Posted by: Erik Loomis, Jr. at December 27, 2012 11:07 PM (rzTDZ)

350 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:03 PM (66ST/)

TMI

All Moronettes are 23, with smokin hot bodies and faces to match. And so smart that it's tough to talk to them in bars.

Get with the program.

http://tinyurl.com/btsdgx2

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:07 PM (GsoHv)

351 Heh, I got a 52 Shades Of Clay T-shirt from one of my cousins who was tired of my Tebow jerseys.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:07 PM (66ST/)


You just made Mrs. Sailor LOL.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:08 PM (l86i3)

352 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:06 PM (l86i3)


Yet another illusion shattered.


Your book will be mine tomorrow, by the way! I am so excited!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:08 PM (66ST/)

353 Well of course they have to be helicopter parents. They what to know what baggage she will be retuning to their home when she moves back in with her nice musical theater major, 200K in debt and no job in the near future.

Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at December 27, 2012 11:08 PM (Ea64Y)

354 Your book will be mine tomorrow, by the way! I am so excited!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:08 PM (66ST/)

Thank you so much, I have no money for Marketing so it's all word of mouth.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:09 PM (l86i3)

355 Is KFD in it or something???
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:05 PM (66ST/)

Even better, Anne Hathaway.

She'll win all the awards, just you watch.

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 11:10 PM (LUnTP)

356 Yep, I got my wife a Clay Mathews Jersey for her Birthday, she wears it a little too much.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:04 PM (l86i3)
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My wife would let Clay Matthews do unspeakable things to her and she him. I am not jealous and I am sure she is not serious. Her interest in him just makes her feel alive. No different than my infatuation with Kate Upton.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 11:10 PM (jucos)

357 Well of course they have to be helicopter parents. They what to know what baggage she will be retuning to their home when she moves back in with her nice musical theater major, 200K in debt and no job in the near future.
Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at December 27, 2012 11:08 PM (Ea64Y)

IDK, she's young and hot, she could prolly swing an Mrs degree.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:10 PM (l86i3)

358 227
@214



It certainly did but Rex compounded it by not going away from Sanchez earlier.



If he did they might, might have made the playoffs and now the team is going to be blown apart.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 10:30 PM (zOP5o)

Jets don't have any talent on offense. No O line, no receivers, no running backs. If Tebow was in, the team would be losing. When the Jets were succesful several years ago, Sanchez had good talent at RB and WR. Now? No one.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 11:10 PM (Zd/NW)

359 the things I'd do to Clay Matthews would get me the banhammer if I talked about 'em.

oh, can we get a "hell, yeah?" never been partial to a blond man myself, but damn, that boy is fine.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:11 PM (kpCLl)

360 Kate Upton.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 11:10 PM (jucos)

Stay the fuck away from her. She's taken.

http://tinyurl.com/5tcxp9p

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:11 PM (GsoHv)

361 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:07 PM (GsoHv)


God bless your sweet heart, that took me back! I had a huge crush on him my junior year of high school. He was so cute!


I was pretty okay at 23, FWIW!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:11 PM (66ST/)

362 Jets don't have any talent on offense. No O line, no receivers, no running backs. If Tebow was in, the team would be losing. When the Jets were succesful several years ago, Sanchez had good talent at RB and WR. Now? No one.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 11:10 PM (Zd/NW)


Good point, I always thought it was a little unfair to dump on Quarterbacks. Then again, they get the glory when they win.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:12 PM (l86i3)

363 I picture all Ronnettes as Liz Cheney, I adore Liz Cheney.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:13 PM (l86i3)

364 Miss Tammy, I think the Horde needs to start a collection for you. Either we send you to the hubby or we buy you some....diversions.....and a lot of batteries.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:13 PM (IvVLN)

365 Then again, they get the glory when they win.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:12 PM (l86i3)

And $17,000,000 even if they lose.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:13 PM (GsoHv)

366 Heh, I got a 52 Shades Of Clay T-shirt from one of my cousins who was tired of my Tebow jerseys.







Was it the future Mr. Peaches who did that?


Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:14 PM (kpCLl)

367 'sup, Morons?

Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2012 11:14 PM (z9HTb)

368 Microsoft Live sucks dead rat balls what have been festering in Arizona sun for 3 days...


Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2012 11:14 PM (KDq5l)

369 "...we buy you some....diversions.....and a lot of batteries."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:13 PM (IvVLN)

AtC has a nuclear powered.....diversion.

Talk with her.

Just watch out for the 'raptors.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:15 PM (GsoHv)

370 Microsoft Live sucks dead rat balls what have been festering in Arizona sun for 3 days...


Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2012 11:14 PM (KDq5l)


Two Words, I mac

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:15 PM (l86i3)

371 Stay the fuck away from her. She's taken.

http://tinyurl.com/5tcxp9p
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:11 PM (GsoHv)
-------------------------------------------------------
See..... she is calling out for me in that picture. "Truck Monkey, Truck Monkey" she is saying. She is thrusting her turd cutter out to show me that she is fertile and available for coitus.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 11:15 PM (jucos)

372 Now is the time on Sockets when we dance!!!


(my apologies if this was done up-thread...I got here late and I didn't get a program)

Posted by: Gunther at December 27, 2012 11:15 PM (JMmQ9)

373 Microsoft Live sucks dead rat balls what have been festering in Arizona sun for 3 days...


We'll score that as "User wants more features"

Posted by: Microsoft marketing team at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (z9HTb)

374 but damn, that boy is fine.
Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:11 PM (kpCLl)


Seriously. He gives Timmy a little competition. Just a little, mind you.

Thor was built in a similar fashion in his younger days. ( He didn't have those big neck muscles, though)

I prefer Tebow's build, he is a little stockier, but Matthews reminds me of Thor in his body type, kind of longer versus broader. Thor has Tebow's coloring though, and purdy mouth.

Sigh....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (66ST/)

375 It's hard to remember now, but Michael Vick was NFL Enemy #1 back when he first started simply because he could run very well, and they didn't do that in the sainted 1960s so it's obviously wrong.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 27, 2012 10:47 PM (OevbG)

That's absolute nonsense. The general tone of the NFL punditocracy was that he was the wave of the future, and they were all hoping that he would be what McNabb could have been if he hadn't gotten fat (and had a more accurate arm). He was promoted extensively and his jerseys. etc. were everywhere.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (nZvGM)

376 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:15 PM (GsoHv)

I work next door to where they manufacture the fuel rods, Maybe a couple of pellets?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (l86i3)

377 "I was pretty okay at 23, FWIW! "

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:11 PM (66ST/)

I'll bet you still are.

It's all in the mind anyway.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (GsoHv)

378 360 Kate Upton.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 11:10 PM (jucos)

------------------

Stay the fuck away from her. She's taken.

http://tinyurl.com/5tcxp9p

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:11 PM (GsoHv)



http://tinyurl.com/bvpxlud

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (IvVLN)

379 You know I was going to root for Baylor but they just show'd the UCLA cheerleaders. Wow......GO BRUINS!!!! So, where is that hot babe factory in California?? I will assume Wyoming or Arizonato get away from the business crushing taxation.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 27, 2012 11:17 PM (CakGS)

380
And they picked him up in the 3rd round right? Great pick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 11:02 PM (79ueO)

Scary thing is that if Wilson was still available when the Redskins were drafting, they were going to take him also. As good as Cousins has been, putting Wilson and RG3 together would have been deadly.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 11:17 PM (Zd/NW)

381 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (66ST/)

Longer vs Broader? You're on a roll kid.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:17 PM (l86i3)

382 Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 11:15 PM (jucos)

That's a woman!

No celery and quinoa diets for her.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:18 PM (GsoHv)

383 UCLA is going down.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 11:18 PM (QupBk)

384 The Jets offensive line sucks. I am surprised MacElroy could even walk on Monday.



OSP, I will talk about it far and wide, I promise!


Peaches, no, it wasn't, but you'd probably like him. (He's married, though!)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (66ST/)

385 My wife would let Clay Matthews do unspeakable things to her and she him. I am not jealous and I am sure she is not serious.

Ah, Truck, she is serious as hell. . . we all are when it comes to that boy.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (kpCLl)

386 Aaaannnnndddddd I'm out!

Good night, Miss Tammy!

Good night, ONT!

Posted by: Robert at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (LUnTP)

387 Loomis' defense is 1st Amendment free speech rights. Problem is, his crime is an ATTACK on that very principle. What does he want to imprison LaPierre for? LaPierre's speech, that's what. Loomisiswaybeyond "chill wind"lingo, and launched into "inciting a riot" kind of territory.Hoist that numbnut Loomis on his own petard, yes. Can't let those aholes get away this trick, as they do all the time.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (WcgMM)

388 That's a woman!

No celery and quinoa diets for her.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:18 PM (GsoHv)
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Soft in all the right places. Not some anorexic/bulemic headcase. That is what a woman should look like.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (jucos)

389 Another sorta end-of-the-road for a business story: on Wednesday my brother-in-law and his partner fired all of their employees but one and are moving their thirty-one year-old business tothe basement of his partner's house.They wanted to wait untilafter the New Year, but their office lease ends onDecember 31stso they couldn't delay any longer.Needless to say, the employees knew the company was struggling and cuts might be made, but theydid not expect a wholesale slaughter. The truth was, they couldn't afford employees anymore, so they will be going back to doing everything themselves. My BIL and his partnerspentyesterday and today moving out and cramming extra office furniture wherever they could find space for it.
Soanother handful or so ofpeopleout of jobs andanother half-empty office building.
It can't be said often enough: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by: Gem at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (zw+pb)

390 Ah, Truck, she is serious as hell. . . we all are when it comes to that boy.
Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (kpCLl)

LMAO

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:20 PM (l86i3)

391 UCLA is going down.


Are the cheerleaders??

Posted by: puddleglum at December 27, 2012 11:20 PM (CakGS)

392 Ah, Truck, she is serious as hell. . . we all are when it comes to that boy.
Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (kpCLl)
--------------------------------------------------------
More power to her. If she could make it happen, I would grant her the freedom to cavort.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 11:21 PM (jucos)

393 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (IvVLN)

Don't go toe-to-toe with me boy...you'll lose.

http://tinyurl.com/ctg9may

http://tinyurl.com/ca67qfn



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:21 PM (GsoHv)

394 Longer vs Broader? You're on a roll kid.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:17 PM (l86i3)


Really? I just meant he has that kind of long muscle like bicyclists and swimmers have, as opposed to that sort of bulky muscle football players get, even though he is a big man. And he has lovely big arms and shoulders but more like Matthews than Tebow.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:22 PM (66ST/)

395 Good night all.

Merry Christmas (yeah, it's over but this Jew likes to say it anyway) and have a happy New Year!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:23 PM (GsoHv)

396 .Yeah, I know, it sounds kinda stupid, but it was a real moment and I am going to try and roll with it.
Posted by: Peaches I have been trying to stay positive. It is the everyday little things - like letting the lady in back of me in the grocery store get ahead of me because she only has a few items compared to mine. Saying a silent prayer for some stranger I see that looks sad/depressed. Playing with my doggeh and kitteh. Giving a co-worker a sincere compliment. Hugging my kids everyday and making sure that I tell them I love them. Smiling at a veteran and thanking them for their service to our country. These are some of the things keeping me sane and not totally depressed.

Posted by: Cheri at December 27, 2012 11:23 PM (EAgmr)

397 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:16 PM (IvVLN)

Don't go toe-to-toe with me boy...you'll lose.

http://tinyurl.com/ctg9may

http://tinyurl.com/ca67qfn



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:21 PM (GsoHv)

You boys keep right on a warrin and i'll keep right on a clickin.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:24 PM (l86i3)

398 Night Robert. Anna Hathaway IS beautiful, if underfed.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:24 PM (66ST/)

399 Night CBD! Thanks for the Charlie eye candy!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:25 PM (66ST/)

400 Really? I just meant he has that kind of long muscle like bicyclists and swimmers have, as opposed to that sort of bulky muscle football players get, even though he is a big man. And he has lovely big arms and shoulders but more like Matthews than Tebow.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:22 PM (66ST/)


OK, I believe you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:25 PM (l86i3)

401 35-7 Baylor with 2 minutes left in the half.

UCLA is going down.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 11:25 PM (QupBk)

402 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:21 PM (GsoHv)

What's the email for the NY NJ meet up? I tried sending an email but I must have screwed up the address (nynjmeetup at optimum dot net?)

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at December 27, 2012 11:25 PM (wBtFp)

403 The best thing about UCLA's defence is there cheerleaders are babes.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 27, 2012 11:26 PM (CakGS)

404 Come on CBD, don't leave yet. I'm about to deliver the hammer blow....



http://tinyurl.com/cn74pl7

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:26 PM (IvVLN)

405 Miss Upton is pretty darned adorable.


She's got nothin' on Tebow and Clay, but mighty cute, nonetheless.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:27 PM (66ST/)

406 Speaking of media stupidity, but I repeat myself. On the flight I read The Economist special holiday double edition that someone crammed into the pocket with the barf bag and 737 pictograms.

Had a cartoon demonizing the NRA. Up in the pulpit in vestments was a revolver. One person wondered at the low attendence. Another answered they were attending funerals. Real knee-slapper that was. But what really caught my eye were the scripture readings in the lower left. First was Colt 45, wow some cheap booze. Second was AK 47, seems comrade knew that one. Final reading was, wait for it, M-15. WTF is an M-15?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 27, 2012 11:27 PM (uHgI5)

407 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:24 PM (66ST/)

Question, people keep asking me to sign my book. Whats that about?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:27 PM (l86i3)

408 I would pretty much kill for some type of candy/sweets type of food product right now. As it stands, I will probably just take a swig from that old bottle of Mrs. Butterworth's because I want something sweet! Let's face it, Clay would be completely disgusted, lol!

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:27 PM (kpCLl)

409 The amazing thing to me is that the first SEC team to play a bowl will be Vandy, on New Year's Eve.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 27, 2012 11:27 PM (QupBk)

410 Hey, Kids

Posted by: jc at December 27, 2012 11:28 PM (17oya)

411 Those Don Ivan Punchatz covers were awesome, and had a great hand in how the Foundation trilogy affected me as a callow youth.

The great science fiction illustrators - Punchatz, Schoenherr, Jack Gaughan and of course Frank Kelly Freas...they're all gone, and how would our childhoods have unwound had they not been there to post images as guideposts.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 27, 2012 11:28 PM (xjpRj)

412 Erik Loomis: fan of Eugenics and "racial sensibilities".


http://tinyurl.com/cr3bk6k (Lawyers, Guns and Money blog)

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 27, 2012 11:29 PM (rzTDZ)

413
Did someone mention Kate?





http://tinyurl.com/bnqydns






Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 27, 2012 11:29 PM (OOL+m)

414 Question, people keep asking me to sign my book. Whats that about?


Well, my goodness, it's because you're a rockstar now! A freaking author, for Pete's sake!


If I wasn't too shy to ask for your address, I'd do the same!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (66ST/)

415 Come on CBD, don't leave yet. I'm about to deliver the hammer blow....



http://tinyurl.com/cn74pl7
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:26 PM (IvVLN)
-------------------------------------------------------
You win. I would kill to be the dude with the hose. Seriously.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (jucos)

416 Two Words, I mac

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet,


MS Live is an online game portal, not a OS thing. Mac users have to use it as well if they make the mistake of buying shitty games like I did.

That distinction may be confusing for you Mac users but frankly I don't care.

Now piss off and dance in silhouette or something.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (KDq5l)

417 "A) Vick is an idiot
B) he is stupid
C) he has a strong arm but inaccurate and no touch and by the way did I say he is stupid
D) he doesn't know when to slide, get down, or get out of bounds so he is always hurt because he is an idiot "

And he'll probably end up in hell.

Posted by: nerdygirl's beagle at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (9lZO4)

418 384
The Jets offensive line sucks. I am surprised MacElroy could even walk on Monday.



OSP, I will talk about it far and wide, I promise!





Peaches, no, it wasn't, but you'd probably like him. (He's married, though!)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:19 PM (66ST/)

Well he does have a concussion, so I'm guessing he was walking kind of like Otis from Andy Griffith.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (Zd/NW)

419 If I wasn't too shy to ask for your address, I'd do the same!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (66ST/)

So I am supposed to sign them?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (l86i3)

420 Nonsense, Peaches, Thor loves it when I suck Hershey's straight outta the bottle! It's all about your technique and the moans of ecstasy...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:31 PM (66ST/)

421
Now piss off and dance in silhouette or something.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (KDq5l)

Well, I only know the hustle and the monster spank.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:31 PM (l86i3)

422 So I am supposed to sign them?


Heck yea!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:32 PM (66ST/)

423 It's all about your technique and the moans of ecstasy...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:31 PM (66ST/)



Dammit. Now I have to clean up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:33 PM (IvVLN)

424 jc!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:34 PM (66ST/)

425 Dorsai and Dune both seemed to postulate specialized planets only producing one type of human per planet. Geez imagine wanting to be a dentist on Dorsai and all you be is a soldier. Ants have it better than that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 27, 2012 11:34 PM (7KxSm)

426 So I am supposed to sign them?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:30 PM (l86i3)

I will totally buy one, OSP. I will do it sooner if you sign them.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:34 PM (kpCLl)

427 Heck yea!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:32 PM (66ST/)

OK, thanks. I'm not a writer, I don't know anything about books other than reading them and I don't know shit about the business.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:34 PM (l86i3)

428 Hey, MizzT


hope you had a nice Christmas. You are keeping everyone on the edge of their seats again, I see.

Posted by: jc at December 27, 2012 11:35 PM (17oya)

429 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:33 PM (IvVLN)

No, ow you have to go buy Mrs B some Hershey's syrup! (And have the boy sleep in the living room!)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:35 PM (66ST/)

430 Thor loves it when I suck Hershey's straight outta the bottle!

OMG, I have that, it's just in the fridge, that is WAY better. Tammy, you are such a goddess and I am so lucky to have your counsel. brb

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:35 PM (kpCLl)

431 I will totally buy one, OSP. I will do it sooner if you sign them.
Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:34 PM (kpCLl)

Sure, anything you want.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:35 PM (l86i3)

432 I am glad my Bearcats pulled it out against Duke in the Belk Bowl. Crazy game.

Posted by: Witchfinder at December 27, 2012 11:35 PM (s/PhC)

433 Nonsense, Peaches, Thor loves it when I suck Hershey's straight outta the bottle! It's all about your technique and the moans of ecstasy...



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:31 PM



Not sure what thread I stumbled into, but I'm totally gonna get comfy for this one. lol

Posted by: Berserker at December 27, 2012 11:36 PM (FMbng)

434 jc, it was okay. Ended up better than expected cuz we have plenty of little ones in my extended family right at that sweet spot between 4 and 7...I defy anyone to not have a fun Xmas with a bunch of 4-7 year olds.

How 'bout you?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:37 PM (66ST/)

435 "It just happens that I saw Les Miserables yesterday and came back with a positive recommendation and suddenly I got a reputation.
Posted by: Robert"
Don't apologize.

Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!

Think of those lyrics when they start talking about taking your guns.

Posted by: nerdygirl's beagle at December 27, 2012 11:37 PM (9lZO4)

436 Geez imagine wanting to be a dentist on Dorsai and all you can be is a soldier.


I fucking hate making toys.

Posted by: Herbie the elf at December 27, 2012 11:37 PM (z9HTb)

437 Hey Bers!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:37 PM (66ST/)

438 No, ow you have to go buy Mrs B some Hershey's syrup! (And have the boy girl sleep in the living room!)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:35 PM (66ST/)




If I thought I would have any chance of success....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:38 PM (IvVLN)

439 Oh, yummmmm!!! This is not a recipe thread, but I will tell you that if you have a can of that squirt whipped cream and some hershey's, just fill a bowl with teh squirt cream and then blend in some hershey's and, voila, moron mousse! Trust me, I've done it and people love it.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:38 PM (kpCLl)

440 I will totally buy one, OSP. I will do it sooner if you sign them.
Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:34 PM (kpCLl)

Sure, anything you want.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:35 PM (l86i3)

If you want you can shoot me an E-mail @ amylynnbraxton@gmail.com and i'll send you my address.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:38 PM (l86i3)

441 I like do drip Hershey's syrup on a Banana while I eat it, that brings up all kinds of issues.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:39 PM (l86i3)

442 How 'bout you?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:37 PM (66ST/)

===
Twas nice. Nothing extraordinary, but definitely nice.

Posted by: jc at December 27, 2012 11:40 PM (17oya)

443 Sure. Sure you squirt it into a bowl! That's what they call it now...

Posted by: Senor Eatum at December 27, 2012 11:40 PM (OOL+m)

444 Peaches, there is much fun to be had with whipped cream and chocolate syrup on every possible level, that's for sure.


I never thought about serving that to folks, but I have eaten it plenty of times! Under some rather fantastic circumstances, too, though sometimes just right out of a bowl.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:40 PM (66ST/)

445 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:38 PM (l86i3)

That sounds really complicated, OSP. And I am a simple girlie. I will totally buy your book regardless. Can't wait to read it. The synopsis sounds quite wonderful and I am very proud of you!

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:41 PM (kpCLl)

446 Oh, sorry about that, BCochran, I forgot you had a wee Princess.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:41 PM (66ST/)

447 441 I like do drip Hershey's syrup on a Banana while I eat it, that brings up all kinds of issues.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet AtC , aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:39 PM (l86i3)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:41 PM (IvVLN)

448 jc, glad to hear that. Sometimes plain and simple is the best of all.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:42 PM (66ST/)

449 "she will be retuning to their home when she moves back in with her nice musical theater major, 200K in debt and no job in the near future.
Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) "

She can go to New York and get a job as an unpaid intern.

Posted by: nerdygirl's beagle at December 27, 2012 11:42 PM (9lZO4)

450 Posted by: nerdygirl's beagle at December 27, 2012 11:37 PM (9lZO4)


==


Robert apologized? Wow. This post-Mayan-apocalypse time is very strange indeed.

Posted by: jc at December 27, 2012 11:42 PM (17oya)

451 Well kids, it's been exciting. Later.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 11:43 PM (l86i3)

452 "Even better, Anne Hathaway.

She'll win all the awards, just you watch.
Posted by: Robert "

Makes sense. I've seen pictures of her where she looks malnourished.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 27, 2012 11:43 PM (9lZO4)

453 good night OSP

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 11:44 PM (cnS/d)

454 Night OSP

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:44 PM (IvVLN)

455 Posted by: Lurkasaurus at December 27, 2012 11:25 PM (wBtFp)

nynjmeet at optimum dot net

I hope to set something up for January. The storm killed Hoboken, and that was the central point for most of us, but the PATH is up and running now so......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2012 11:44 PM (GsoHv)

456 Night, OSP!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:44 PM (66ST/)

457 She can go to New York and get a job as an unpaid intern.

Posted by: nerdygirl's beagle at December 27, 2012 11:42 PM (9lZO4)
Well, she sure as hell can't go home to those fuckin' lunatic parents of hers.

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:45 PM (kpCLl)

458 'Night, OSP!!

Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:46 PM (kpCLl)

459
457 She can go to New York and get a job as an unpaid intern. Posted by: nerdygirl's beagle at December 27, 2012 11:42 PM (9lZO4) Well, she sure as hell can't go home to those fuckin' lunatic parents of hers.
Posted by: Peaches at December 27, 2012 11:45 PM (kpCLl)


After seeing her picture, she can come live with me. I'm only like 2-3 hours from cincy anyways. And I can make sure her computer doesn't have any spyware on it.

Posted by: buzzion at December 27, 2012 11:48 PM (GULKT)

460 I wish we could take some sort of informal and non-vulgar poll among the 'ettes regarding Naughtiness Noises.

I know men are mostly visually oriented, but I go nigh about wild when Thor talks dirty and makes er, the Noises of Love and I wondering if I am in the minority or not.


Maet, please delete this if it is too bad. I thought I worded it pretty good.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:48 PM (66ST/)

461 Oh man. The best friend has unearthed a pic of us back in college. wow.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:49 PM (IvVLN)

462
I have been working since........E.R.....missed funerals of.... and have maintained an ETOH level of at least 0.19 since...bout my usual for crisis mode when the crap hits the floppy things.......dang.....I would say "HAPPY NEW YEAR!"....if there even WAS such a thing this year.....shit....OBAMA???? for another 4???!!!
I wish RUM would come aboard lest so I could be "Stompy Boot'd out of my misery!THAT is my dream......

Posted by: Richard at December 27, 2012 11:50 PM (Pj/A8)

463 Hey Richard! How's the orange tree? I fear Rum has deserted us for good now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:51 PM (66ST/)

464 OT,

But La Wise Latina looks, on Drudge, like the Salt Vampire.

Ugh.

Posted by: Bob, Person of Hench at December 27, 2012 11:51 PM (1efte)

465 The best thing about UCLA's defence is there cheerleaders are babes.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 27, 2012 11:26 PM (CakGS)

The whores of Westwood as they are so often called in my neck of the woods.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 27, 2012 11:52 PM (NzBQO)

466 Adam Lanza also was an organic vegan with a conservative worldview, he said.


Oxymoron right there, if you ask me. Any "organic vegans" I've met have tended to be raging moonbats.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 27, 2012 11:52 PM (L2co/)

467 re: "This is a big part of the reason we lose. Most of our leadership has neither the will nor the ability to actually fight."

I'd agree, except that they're perfectly happy to fight you and anyone who gets caught representing you, as many recent primaries and committee purges show, so it's not like they don't/won't fight. They're just not on your side.

Or at the very least, they don't want to be.

Posted by: oblig. at December 27, 2012 11:53 PM (cePv8)

468 461
Oh man. The best friend has unearthed a pic of us back in college. wow.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:49 PM (IvVLN)

====
The 70's never happened. If they did happen, I wasn't there. If I was there, I never wore those clothes. That wasn't me. Aw, shit.

Posted by: jc at December 27, 2012 11:54 PM (17oya)

469 465: So, whores are babes in your neck of the woods?? Nice woods.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 27, 2012 11:55 PM (CakGS)

470 Clip of a conversation from the game Assassin's Creed 3. I would title it "Benjamin Franklin - 18th Century Cougar Hunter"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JzXG-G3Asg

Posted by: buzzion at December 27, 2012 11:56 PM (GULKT)

471 Night OSP Soon will be home and on computer, not phone.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 27, 2012 11:56 PM (uHgI5)

472
Hey Bers!


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 27, 2012 11:37 PM (


hey!!

Posted by: Berserker at December 27, 2012 11:56 PM (FMbng)

473 WTF is an M-15?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 27, 2012 11:27 PM

A modified M-14. Heavier. Also a .223 rifle, "Armalite".

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 11:56 PM (yBF/9)

474 The 70's never happened. If they did happen, I wasn't there. If I was there, I never wore those clothes. That wasn't me. Aw, shit.



They're not that bad. Only bout a decade old. Just odd to see how much we've changed in that time.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 11:56 PM (IvVLN)

475 ugh

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 27, 2012 11:57 PM (cnS/d)

476
463
This is how bad I feel right now, that I should harken back to she who still has my soul.....(lust) and longing for the days before this SCFOAMF sucked the life out of us all....I am a man not in his full because of this and am becoming aware that I may have to give the FULL MEASURE to give this nation one more chance.

Posted by: Richard at December 27, 2012 11:58 PM (Pj/A8)

477 More recently you see it in Bujold

Aren't the Cetagandans the enemy? Or are you referring to the Vor military caste?

Posted by: Fox2! at December 27, 2012 11:59 PM (1Qpmy)

478 The 70's never happened. If they did happen, I wasn't there. If I was there, I never wore those clothes. That wasn't me. Aw, shit.

Posted by: jc at December 27, 2012 11:54 PM


Never be ashamed of the 70's. It was a funkier time, back then.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 11:59 PM (yBF/9)

479 465: So, whores are babes in your neck of the woods?? Nice woods.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 27, 2012 11:55 PM (CakGS)

The UCLA nursing school has produced some of the craziest party girls I have ever seen. I'm not sure if it's just the stress of the job or schooling.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 28, 2012 12:01 AM (NzBQO)

480 Richard, "give the full measure"? what exactly do you mean?

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 28, 2012 12:01 AM (cnS/d)

481 "After seeing her picture, she can come live with me. I'm only like 2-3 hours from cincy anyways. And I can make sure her computer doesn't have any spyware on it.
Posted by: buzzion"

Just close the drapes in case daddy and mommy are skulking in the bushes with binoculars.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 28, 2012 12:02 AM (9lZO4)

482 Never be ashamed of the 70's. It was a funkier time, back then.


Right on!

Posted by: George Clinton at December 28, 2012 12:03 AM (z9HTb)

483 Never be ashamed of the 70's. It was a funkier time, back then.

The brief and shining moment between The Pill and AIDS.

Also tall shoes.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 28, 2012 12:03 AM (QupBk)

484 Richard, "give the full measure"? what exactly do you mean?


Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 28, 2012 12:01 AM



Well he was talking about a chick also. I'm thinking chick...giving the full measure...maybe a poetic way of saying balls deep?

Posted by: Berserker at December 28, 2012 12:04 AM (FMbng)

485 hey!!
Posted by: Berserker at December 27, 2012 11:56 PM (FMbng)


How was Xmas? Working on anything fun?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2012 12:04 AM (66ST/)

486

For those of you who like "show tunes", but missed the 70's I give you the best of both:

http://www.plaidstallions.com/mattel/dm.html

Posted by: Brick Mantooth, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at December 28, 2012 12:05 AM (rCltd)

487 "469 465: So, whores are babes in your neck of the woods?? Nice woods.
Posted by: puddleglum"

Apparently there are different levels of whore. I was watching "Cops" one night and they were doing prostitution stings. Of the type of prostitutes who charge $20, then let themselves be haggled down to $15. These gals don't look anything like those NFL cheerleaders.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 28, 2012 12:07 AM (9lZO4)

488 random shit from the 1970's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X7hdyTPeIY

Posted by: otho at December 28, 2012 12:09 AM (yBF/9)

489 Of the type of prostitutes who charge $20, then let themselves be haggled down to $15.

that is remarkably sad

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 28, 2012 12:09 AM (cnS/d)

490 Drew Brees is a homo that wants to be in a boy band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XpjK47DUTo

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2012 12:10 AM (GULKT)

491 So The City at the Edge of Forever was a pretty good episode, if quite the downer.

No quips at the end ...

Posted by: Waterhouse is watching TOS at December 28, 2012 12:10 AM (lpfU8)

492
480,

I speak only in the tense that foresees the possibilities of the next 4 years.
I wish this was not my vision, yet, I will ask you Jeff, ...What would you doif you saw your Country going down a path of total ruin? What would you think wasyour part to stop this? I only ask this because I am having a daily mental MMA match over this very thought....

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 12:10 AM (Pj/A8)

493
491 So The City at the Edge of Forever was a pretty good episode, if quite the downer. No quips at the end ...
Posted by: Waterhouse is watching TOS at December 28, 2012 12:10 AM (lpfU


I decided that Spock's Brain is likely one of the "Chompers" episodes of TOS.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2012 12:13 AM (GULKT)

494 Okay, this thread is reaching depression levels pretty quickly, think I will call my sweet man.


Thanks for a fun evening, y'all..... don't go getting all bummed, now!


Night!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2012 12:13 AM (66ST/)

495 Of the type of prostitutes who charge $20, then let themselves be haggled down to $15.

that is remarkably sad

Posted by: chemjeff getting drunk at applebee's at December 28, 2012 12:09 AM


Not so fast, Mister.

I could probably scrape up $15....

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2012 12:13 AM (JMmQ9)

496 What would you doif you saw your Country going down a path of total ruin?

The age-old advice is to lie back and think of England. Really, it's probably eve more effective now.


Posted by: Peaches at December 28, 2012 12:14 AM (kpCLl)

497 Why are the sockets showing their 'Oh' faces?

The Danes had fun, Israel got the 'shocker.'

Posted by: RWC at December 28, 2012 12:15 AM (sqp6o)

498 chemjeff,
Yes, it is sad. In the real world a good share of prostitutes are addicts who will let the dregs of the earth maul them for a few bucks.

And they don't look like Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman".

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 28, 2012 12:15 AM (9lZO4)

499 I got a laptop for Christmas and it's giving me fits. My understanding is Windows 8 is not written for pc's but more for tablets. nothing is the same. Also now it's changing text size, zoom rate and giving me serviceadministration exceptionerrors. I am having a hell of a time getting used to this thing.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 12:17 AM (JKNDp)

500
494
Did not mean to "Harsh your magic fingers". I will tone it up to "LETS PARTY THIS HOUSE STATUS!!!"....now........

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 12:18 AM (Pj/A8)

501 How was Xmas? Working on anything fun?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2012 12:04 AM



Christmas was good. Working on a few things, neither of them fun, because both had one foot in the grave. One is a resurrection of a 1960's Martin that for no explainable reason somebody band sawed the face off the headstock, took the fingerboard off, and ripped the neck out of the body like they were pulling weeds. Its brutal.

The other thing is a late 1800's parlor guitar. The bracing was original ,so the top was sinking in real bad. I had to rebrace the entire top with new bracing, fixed a bunch of top cracks, remove all the 3 stooges repairs that were done over the years, and I have to make a new back, because the knucklehead before me ruined it. Yeah another gem.

Other than that, just partying my ass off through the holidays.

Posted by: Berserker at December 28, 2012 12:18 AM (FMbng)

502 I have a little parable. Went to put in some hours on an Eagle Scout project this afternoon. One of our boys is prepping two rooms in a former school for a local food-bank to move in, since it has outgrown its current location (see, there are growth industries even now). Classic red-brick school, I'm guessing 1920's, builded for the ages like they were back then. Turns out the rooms to be used once were the chemistry lab, so there are lots of nice cabinets, and black stone counter tops with bunsen burner gas outlets, and sinks, and of course an eyewash station.

The director of this food-bank came to give the laborers a little background. This is a prosperous country town of about 2500 (and was when my mother lived near there during the Great Bipolarity of the 1930's), and she's almost apologetic that they're only supporting about 150 families. She's hoping to get permission to use the lab room to give some food-prep guidance, because "all our younger ones" only want boxed food -- Hamburger Helper was her example -- and she can get raw foodstuffs easily but can't afford brand-name pre-made food to give away.

Now, in the day, the high school graduation rate in this town was 90+%. The farmers are aggressively progressive scientific operators, and the townspersons staffed a stone quarry, a glass plant, a nuclear power plant, a beryllium works, all those cute little shops and car dealers, and the army that beat the Wehrmacht, with their crappy li'l old small town HS diplomas. Nine out of ten people walking around in this town learned to do basic chemical processes involving heat and catalysts -- in this room.

This room, that, with permission from the State, will now be used to teach grown-ups already on the federal dole how to cook dinner without pouring it out of a box.

What. The. Hell.




Posted by: comatus at December 28, 2012 12:18 AM (qaVK+)

503 Ooh, Alfred Hitchcock Presents is on. Bye.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 28, 2012 12:19 AM (9lZO4)

504 I decided that Spock's Brain is likely one of the "Chompers" episodes of TOS.

At the risk of sounding terminally unaware, what is a "Chompers" episode?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 28, 2012 12:20 AM (lpfU8)

505 Denmark socket looks likes happy face.
Aussie socket looks like sad face
American socket looks like, WTF face

Posted by: Eisenhorn at December 28, 2012 12:21 AM (OjQYm)

506 499 I got a laptop for Christmas and it's giving me fits. My understanding is Windows 8 is not written for pc's but more for tablets. nothing is the same. Also now it's changing text size, zoom rate and giving me serviceadministration exceptionerrors. I am having a hell of a time getting used to this thing.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 12:17 AM (JKNDp)

I live on 12 cents a day...life's a bitch.

Posted by: Abubuka drummond at December 28, 2012 12:22 AM (sqp6o)

507
504 I decided that Spock's Brain is likely one of the "Chompers" episodes of TOS.At the risk of sounding terminally unaware, what is a "Chompers" episode?
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 28, 2012 12:20 AM (lpfU


Something I came up with as of today. Since I got Galaxy Quest for Christmas. I think the clip will explain nicely. And if you haven't watched Galaxy Quest shame on you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZODzdqVptUs

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2012 12:22 AM (GULKT)

508 Good evening, Morons, lurkers, Sterno bums, reprobates, hangers-on, mingos, lezzes and gaylords.

I have discovered the secret to a peaceful holiday visit with Mom:

Drink enough bourbon to fall asleep in the middle of her guilt trip and feign amnesia the next morning.

I love the holidays.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 28, 2012 12:23 AM (JDIKC)

509
So....

Saw Kate Upton photo......nuff said!

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 12:24 AM (Pj/A8)

510 Mmmm, blonde Sigourney Weaver.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 28, 2012 12:25 AM (lpfU8)

511 good evening, fellow jeff

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:25 AM (BBWjt)

512 'night, kids . . . try not to wreck the place, okay?

Posted by: Peaches at December 28, 2012 12:27 AM (kpCLl)

513 comatus,

Hamburger Helper is horrible. I hope someone shows them how to make things like split pea soup and bean soup. And potato soup that you throw some cheese and left over ham into.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 28, 2012 12:27 AM (9lZO4)

514 492

480,

I speak only in the tense that foresees the possibilities of the next 4 years.
I
wish this was not my vision, yet, I will ask you Jeff, ...What would
you doif you saw your Country going down a path of total ruin? What
would you think wasyour part to stop this? I only ask this because I am
having a daily mental MMA match over this very thought....

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 12:10 AM (Pj/A

well, I guess I look at it in the same way as I look at someone that I care about who is doing something very destructive. I give advice as best as I can, but if that person refuses to listen, then I can't spend time worrying about it, I have done all that I can, the only thing left for me to do is to change what is in my power to change.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:29 AM (BBWjt)

515 Hello, fake ass chemical Jeff.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 28, 2012 12:29 AM (JDIKC)

516
Tammy al-Thor,Peaches

Please don't tell me you know anything about a golf ball and a garden hose.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 28, 2012 12:30 AM (+9AX9)

517 Posted by: comatus at December 28, 2012 12:18 AM (qaVK+)

Yes, we are regressing.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:31 AM (BBWjt)

518 EoJ, I assure you, I am an authentic Jeff

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:31 AM (BBWjt)

519 Drink enough bourbon to fall asleep in the middle of her guilt trip and feign amnesia the next morning.

Or as we call it, Tuesday night.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 28, 2012 12:31 AM (QupBk)

520 499
I got a laptop for Christmas and it's giving me fits. My understanding
is Windows 8 is not written for pc's but more for tablets. nothing is
the same. Also now it's changing text size, zoom rate and giving me
serviceadministration exceptionerrors. I am having a hell of a time
getting used to this thing.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 12:17 AM (JKNDp)



Got MrsCaniac a new laptop for Christmas, and when I was looking at the laptops, Windows 8 was so aggravating to try to figure out. Since she is very anti-technology, I had to make sure that whatever I got was as close to Windows Xp (what her old laptop was running) as possible. Windows 7 is somewhat similar, so she is happy.

I really believe that Microsoft has royally fucked this up by trying to tailor all of their products now for Windows 8, Surface tablet, and Windows phone. But I am probably wrong because I saw some tech analyst that said that computers are the past and we are moving into a tablet future.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 28, 2012 12:32 AM (Zd/NW)

521 Hamburger Helper is horrible. I hope someone shows them how to make things like split pea soup and bean soup. And potato soup that you throw some cheese and left over ham into.

Saute onions and celery and carrots, add minced garlic, add staple item of choice, and cover with water or broth. Viola, you have every basic soup recipe you ever need.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 28, 2012 12:36 AM (o1kXv)

522 WTF is an M-15?

What happens when a gun grabber can't distinguish between the manufacturer's designation (AR-15) and the military nomenclature (M-16), but knows he's seen both used to refer to the same rifle.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 28, 2012 12:36 AM (1Qpmy)

523 Well of course we are in a "tablet world", that is because that's what all the Seattle hipster doofuses use. Grr.

I see a tablet as really just a toy. It would be nice to have but I don't see how I can use it to replace a laptop.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:36 AM (BBWjt)

524 that is really sad, though, to use a chemistry lab for food prep

you'd think that would be something out of some disaster/armageddon story, but no, it's modern america

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:38 AM (BBWjt)

525 I see a tablet as really just a toy. It would be nice to have but I don't see how I can use it to replace a laptop.

I'm always annoyed by the assertion that today's youth are "tech-savvy", because they're not. They have toys but no idea for the most part how to use them fully, or how they work. They just know buttonology, but it's enough to feed their need for the new shiny.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 28, 2012 12:39 AM (o1kXv)

526 I'm always annoyed by the assertion that today's youth are "tech-savvy", because they're not.

yup - the same yoots who overwhelmingly choose Apple products because then they don't have to think about how to set up their computer

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:40 AM (BBWjt)

527 An M-15 would be Matt Damon's weapon of choice, that's what.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 28, 2012 12:40 AM (WcgMM)

528 that is really sad, though, to use a chemistry lab for food prepyou'd think that would be something out of some disaster/armageddon story, but no, it's modern america

Besides the fact that Alton Brown is going to slap you, using the chem lab for a cooking class is the best place to do it. You have all the necessary safety equipment, a space large enough to hold everyone and arranged to best teach the hands on portion. Plus, a leasta couple of these knuckleheads will end up burning something.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 28, 2012 12:41 AM (o1kXv)

529 (apologies to Moron users of Macs)

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:41 AM (BBWjt)

530 :::523 Well of course we are in a "tablet world", that is because that's what all the Seattle hipster doofuses use. Grr.

I see a tablet as really just a toy. It would be nice to have but I don't see how I can use it to replace a laptop.:::

You can't. My wife has an iPad 3, oldest daughter has an Android tablet. They are browsers. Period. You can't do any actual computing on them.

But they have their niche - display only surfing/shopping.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 28, 2012 12:42 AM (JDIKC)

531
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 28, 2012 12:41 AM (o1kXv)

Well sure, a chemistry lab is a good and practical place to cook food, but that's not its intended purpose, which is why it would be a great place in a disaster/armageddon scenario to make your dinner if you didn't have access to a kitchen for whatever reason.
Besides, who knows what's been on those countertops previously.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:44 AM (BBWjt)

532
I'm getting messages on how to setup the phone. I use an old flip phone that has nothing to do with my computer. I have installed a program called touch freeze to keep the touchpad from driving me nuts with mixed success.
And screwthe 12 cent a day sock.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 12:45 AM (JKNDp)

533 Is there anything microsoft can't fuck up? It's like they're french or something...

Posted by: Uncle Jed at December 28, 2012 12:46 AM (AVfT8)

534 I- pad is for convenience and entertainment
I'm not going to lug a laptop into the outhouse...that is where the tablets make their mark.

Posted by: RWC at December 28, 2012 12:47 AM (sqp6o)

535 EoJ, well a quick search did reveal that it is possible to run MS Word on an Android tablet and save your documents "in the cloud", but man I can only imagine what a pain it would be

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:47 AM (BBWjt)

536
530 :::523 Well of course we are in a "tablet world", that is because that's what all the Seattle hipster doofuses use. Grr. I see a tablet as really just a toy. It would be nice to have but I don't see how I can use it to replace a laptop.::: You can't. My wife has an iPad 3, oldest daughter has an Android tablet. They are browsers. Period. You can't do any actual computing on them. But they have their niche - display only surfing/shopping.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 28, 2012 12:42 AM (JDIKC)


Yep, its not a replacement. Its a nice secondary for people that want one. I have a desktop, a laptop, and a smartphone. I do not need a tablet. If I did not already have a laptop I could see getting a tablet instead.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2012 12:48 AM (GULKT)

537 Other screwy things about windows 8 and ie 10 that comes with it, if you go to a corner with the cursor it brings up a command bar on the right that gets in the way and you have to remove it to access the slidebar. Not a major thing but a pain in the neck that I guess I will have to get used to. I am seriously looking at Google Chrome.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 12:49 AM (JKNDp)

538 until I see someone write their entire Ph.D. thesis on a tablet, then I'll know it's possible to replace an ordinary computer with a tablet

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:49 AM (BBWjt)

539 yo Morons. Good riddance Lisa

Posted by: zeera at December 28, 2012 12:50 AM (3dXwx)

540
537 Other screwy things about windows 8 and ie 10 that comes with it, if you go to a corner with the cursor it brings up a command bar on the right that gets in the way and you have to remove it to access the slidebar. Not a major thing but a pain in the neck that I guess I will have to get used to. I am seriously looking at Google Chrome.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 12:49 AM (JKNDp)


That'll teach you to not follow the standard "only get every other Windows Upgrade"

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2012 12:50 AM (GULKT)

541 I am seriously looking at Google Chrome.

That's funny, we are also seriously looking at you.

Posted by: Google at December 28, 2012 12:50 AM (BBWjt)

542 hi zeera

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:51 AM (BBWjt)

543 huh, just noticed my new hash... it is somewhat, um, interesting...

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:52 AM (BBWjt)

544
514
I don't do interventions....when the topic is such...intervention is a very weak sister....serious brother!!! you of all morons should know better??
Switching to Single Malt Scotch and will re-post when the topics meld.....

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 12:54 AM (Pj/A8)

545 It uses apps rather than icoN> TO FIND CONTROL PANEL> NOW FOR SOME DUMASS REASON I AM TOGGLING BE TWEEN AIRPLANE MOND AND OFF> Why all that last stuff was typed in caps is a mystery. What a pain in the ass.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 12:57 AM (JKNDp)

546
That was airplane mode not mond.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 12:58 AM (JKNDp)

547 (BBWjt) BBW Junior Team??

Posted by: puddleglum at December 28, 2012 12:59 AM (CakGS)

548 Ohio Dan, wow, Windows 8 seems to really suck

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 01:00 AM (BBWjt)

549 547
(BBWjt) BBW Junior Team??

Posted by: puddleglum at December 28, 2012 12:59 AM (CakGS)

I was thinking maybe BBW Just (the) Tip

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 01:01 AM (BBWjt)

550 Why give a BBW just the tip? Seems against the spirit of the whole thing.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 01:01 AM (lJJMb)

551 "Just the tip" is just the coverstory

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 01:02 AM (BBWjt)

552 chemjeff at December 28, 2012 01:02 AM (BBWjt)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 28, 2012 01:05 AM (9Qc6B)

553 I was thinking maybe BBW Just (the) Tip


Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 01:01 AM


Big Bitch With Jangly Tits.

Posted by: Berserker at December 28, 2012 01:06 AM (FMbng)

554 Have I mentioned my hash contains "JMB" lately? Because it does.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 01:08 AM (lJJMb)

555
Well now...

"Thunder Ranch!"

Nighty-Night, sleepy tight....don't let no "Obama bugs" bite.......

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 01:14 AM (Pj/A8)

556 Besides, who knows what's been on those countertops previously.

I'm thinking of Galvani and his frog's legs, here. Or Goodyear's stove.
It could be safer to cook in a lab than, for instance, to do chemistry experiments on top of what used to happen in kitchens. Or, "abbatoirs," as they were once known.

Yes, I got a pretty strong "Omega Man" vibe about the whole project. That, and the thought that any scout above First Class could probably teach the cooking course to the tragically ignorant.

Posted by: comatus at December 28, 2012 01:15 AM (qaVK+)

557 Hey CJ. It's kinda neat that you're hitting it off so well with Velma.

Posted by: zeera at December 28, 2012 01:17 AM (3dXwx)

558 Yes, I got a pretty strong "Omega Man" vibe about the whole project.

love the soundtrack though ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 28, 2012 01:17 AM (9Qc6B)

559 Waaaaaaayyyyy off topic, but intrguing as all hell:

http://tinyurl.com/ccqtceq

This could mean a tectonic shift in the MFM. Anyone familiar with the Orange County Register knows that this is one paper NOT on the left.

Then again, it may be nothing more than someone looking to pick up some distressed property on the cheap.

Posted by: Bill H at December 28, 2012 01:19 AM (3sZO1)

560 Thanks to whatever 'ette made the cashmere scarf suggestion for a Christmas present. It was a big hit.

Posted by: zeera at December 28, 2012 01:20 AM (3dXwx)

561 Posted by: Bill H at December 28, 2012 01:19 AM (3sZO1)


Interesting. I saw that the LAT is part of that deal...seeing as how Jonah Goldberg is priceless, I say they should do it.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 01:22 AM (lJJMb)

562 What the hell?

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/A_LkjyECcAIX27U.png:large

That's just wrong, and yet I'm laughing.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 28, 2012 01:25 AM (aH+zP)

563 "I can't stand Jaegermeister


I hear it tastes like cough syrup."

That's because it is cough syrup. In Germany/Austria/Switzerland, they call these "herbal liquors" and they are designed for use as medicines.

My stomach ached while at a friends house in Switzerland, and he brought out his kruter liqueur, and after a couple of shots, I did feel better.

Posted by: Sexypig at December 28, 2012 01:26 AM (dZQh7)

564 16
And what the hell is with those unpolerized and groundless outlets!


If they're using a 220/240 type standard that doesn't have a notion of neutral, then polarization makes no sense.

A 3rd prong for a ground would be useful though...

The US 15/20A standard plug is kinda weak mechanically. Too easy for the hot/neutral prongs to get bent and the ground prongs bust off too easy. Too late now though.

The Brit plug is sturdier, and some incorporate device fusing within the plug cap itself.

The US electric code is probably the best and safest on the planet for residential stuff.


Posted by: @PurpAv at December 28, 2012 01:26 AM (hPavS)

565 561
Posted by: Bill H at December 28, 2012 01:19 AM (3sZO1)


Interesting. I saw that the LAT is part of that deal...seeing as how Jonah Goldberg is priceless, I say they should do it.


Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 01:22 AM (lJJMb)


Link didn't work for me -- came up with a Cox page.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2012 01:27 AM (kaalw)

566 Afew hours ago an Obama voter just asked me for some bulk 9 mm 'cuz he can't find any for sale anywhere. Let that sink in a minute... there. So I said no, can't do it- but inside I said to myself "Look dude: this is what you wanted... You voted for gun grabbers, who made it clear they wanted to grab guns before you voted for them, and then you complain when they do what they said they were going to do. They're talking about doing it because that's exactly what they think you voted for them to do."

Posted by: DAve at December 28, 2012 01:27 AM (XDC0v)

567 http://tinyurl.com/d8cf7a2

this will give you nightmares don't click if you want to sleep tonight

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 3rd day of Christmas at December 28, 2012 01:28 AM (GVxQo)

568 523
Well of course we are in a "tablet world", that is because that's what all the Seattle hipster doofuses use. Grr.

I see a tablet as really just a toy. It would be nice to have but I don't see how I can use it to replace a laptop.


Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:36 AM (BBWjt)

I sort of thought that way, but with the changes I saw 25 years ago in the radio industry, I am beginning to think in 10 years, tablets will be the norm.20 years ago when I joined the local Multiple Listing Service, the lockbox key was unchanged from 20 years earlier when my dad was a member of the MLS. 10 years ago we switched to an electronic key that was updated over the phone. 7 years ago to an electronic key that was updated over the internet. This summer we changed to a "key" that is an Android phone app that communicates via bluetooth.
25 years ago, the radio station I was at had an IBM System 34 that was used for accounting and commercial scheduling/invoicing. Period. 20 years ago it was replaced by a desktop unit, that did all of that plus whatever else we needed a computer for. 15 years ago computers started being used for production. 13 years ago computers became to norm for music storage and for music playing. 10 years ago, radio stations pretty much became computer automated.
If my accounting software ever goes to a tablet form, I would happily dump my laptop for the tablet.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 28, 2012 01:28 AM (Zd/NW)

569 Interesting. I saw that the LAT is part of that deal...seeing as how Jonah Goldberg is priceless, I say they should do it.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 01:22 AM (lJJMb)


Ahyup. That, the Chicago Tribune, the Baltimore Sun, and several other lefty papers. Like I said, that would be one hell of a major shift. Just the idea of forcing the LA Times rightward makes me want to fap with joy.

Posted by: Bill H at December 28, 2012 01:31 AM (3sZO1)

570 Oh, wait -- it's in the crashed pdf after the Cox screen. When I reloaded it, it showed up.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2012 01:31 AM (kaalw)

571 BBW means Big Black Women: congrats chemjeff!!!

Posted by: DAve at December 28, 2012 01:31 AM (XDC0v)

572
I'm going for a 4 hour segment of RUSH music....just for shits and grins!
Any and all MM's are welcomed to join me.......(serious! we need diversions from the MSM!!!!)

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 01:32 AM (Pj/A8)

573
538 until I see someone write their entire Ph.D. thesis on a tablet, then I'll know it's possible to replace an ordinary computer with a tablet

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 12:49 AM (BBWjt)


Hell, that's just what the winner of The Bancroft Award did a couple of years ago!

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 28, 2012 01:32 AM (tOkJB)

574 For anything that requires a lot of data input, like writing, programming, etc a tablet is a non-starter.

Essentially, they're delivery devices, not general purpose computing devices.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 28, 2012 01:32 AM (hPavS)

575 The Progs in England want to ban pointy kitchen knives. I'm not kidding

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

These dopes really think that with enough laws, regulations, social engineering and indoctrination disguised as education that they can create paradise. Just don't mention anything to do with Judeo-Christian traditions that kept society held together for thousands of years.

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at December 28, 2012 01:33 AM (wBtFp)

576 No, the story doesn't match what you guys are talking about. Did you mean http://tinyurl.com/d6u6yzp ?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2012 01:34 AM (kaalw)

577 If you can plug a USB/wireless keyboard/mouse into a tablet, then its no longer a tablet. You just lashed together a crippled laptop

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 28, 2012 01:34 AM (hPavS)

578 567
http://tinyurl.com/d8cf7a2



this will give you nightmares don't click if you want to sleep tonight

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 3rd day of Christmas at December 28, 2012 01:28 AM (GVxQo)

Same color as a Squatch's natural color.
Hawaii is squatchy.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 28, 2012 01:34 AM (Zd/NW)

579 I'm going for a 4 hour segment of RUSH music....just for shits and grins!
Any and all MM's are welcomed to join me.......(serious! we need diversions from the MSM!!!!)


Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 01:32 AM



Thats just enough time to squeeze in Fly By Night to Hemispheres.

Posted by: Berserker at December 28, 2012 01:35 AM (FMbng)

580 Link didn't work for me -- came up with a Cox page.


Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2012 01:27 AM (kaalw)


Click on "San Diego" on the map that comes up, and you'll be directed to the article.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 01:36 AM (lJJMb)

581 this will give you nightmares don't click if you want to sleep tonight
Posted by: phoenixgirl, Merry 3rd day of Christmas at December 28, 2012 01:28 AM (GVxQo)


Urp....that looks like an uncontrolled fungus. That, or she read in Zimbabwe Beauty that French's Mustard is an acceptable substitute forthe usual Glidden house paint.

Posted by: Bill H at December 28, 2012 01:37 AM (3sZO1)

582 ...ban pointy kitchen knives...

I presume stone knives and pointy sticks will still be legal...maybe not..

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 28, 2012 01:37 AM (hPavS)

583 http://i.___ur.com/pb9j6.jpg

Posted by: The Dude at December 28, 2012 01:41 AM (tw6Ar)

584 derp, forgot about ___ur
http://tinyurl.com/cholm2y

Posted by: The Dude at December 28, 2012 01:41 AM (tw6Ar)

585 I presume stone knives and pointy sticks will still be legal...maybe not.

Given that the food in Britain is a lumpy mess before the banning of kitchen knives, I can only wonder what it will be like after ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 28, 2012 01:45 AM (9Qc6B)

586
Now that I'm pouring the single malt....and the ROCK of RUSH is pounding out of the mighty mega-.......ear buds.....I give it up to my M+M's
go forth....and slay the dragon, ye scurvy dogs!!.....(and bitches)

snooze me much..............

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 01:47 AM (Pj/A8)

587
Isaw apuketastic bumper sticker in the window of a SUV today. It said "I (picture of a heart) equality. Freaking simpletons. Equal what, opportunity, outcome, competition, intellect, athletic ability, station in life, ability, effort?
We live in a jingoistic society.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 01:47 AM (JKNDp)

588 heh

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 01:48 AM (BBWjt)

589 Any Zeppelin fans awake among the morons?

Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2012 01:49 AM (0PiQ4)

590 Have I mentioned I am still getting used to the freaking keyboard also?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 01:50 AM (JKNDp)

591
Bumper Sticker for the next four years......
YOU VOTED FOR THIS
OWN IT BITCH

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 01:52 AM (Pj/A8)

592 I saw a personalized license plate on a car festooned with anti Obama bumper stickers. The license plate read NO 2term

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 01:54 AM (JKNDp)

593 589
Any Zeppelin fans awake among the morons?

Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2012 01:49 AM (0PiQ4)


Probably all of us that are still up.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 01:55 AM (lJJMb)

594
L, elle at December 28, 2012 01:49 AM

Used to be but that was years ago. Not so much now. Switched over to country music. Easier on the ears and nerves.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 28, 2012 01:55 AM (+9AX9)

595 Here- try this one. It goes to the ABC News page. Pretty much the same article.

http://tinyurl.com/d8f4tzc

Posted by: Bill H at December 28, 2012 01:57 AM (3sZO1)

596
ZEP YA!
They just got inducted into a HALL OF FAME....bout time!!!


NOW......about RUSH??????

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2012 01:58 AM (Pj/A8)

597 Any Zeppelin fans awake among the morons?

It's been a long time
Been a long time
Been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2012 02:00 AM (zMouK)

598 I'm not gonna lie that Register story has my sundial at high noon.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at December 28, 2012 02:01 AM (gkfSV)

599 Here's Feinstein's new Assault weapon bill: http://tinyurl.com/c6fkay3

Posted by: DAve at December 28, 2012 02:02 AM (XDC0v)

600 Harleycowboy. And St Patrick

Watching Kennedy Center Honoring Led Zeppelin with Barack and Michelle pretending. I am so depressed. I thought Jimmy Page was Jesus before I found Jesus. I am devastated.

Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2012 02:02 AM (0PiQ4)

601 597 Ten Years Gone

Posted by: DAve at December 28, 2012 02:03 AM (XDC0v)

602 I'd listen to more Zeppelin, but am a little burned out on the "radio songs", having heard them so many times. Same way with the Stones. Great songs, but after you've heard them 10,000 times, it's a bit stale. In both cases, the album stuff you haven't heard on the rock station a bazillion times is still great (except for when it's bad). I suspect y'all will know what I mean by that.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 02:03 AM (lJJMb)

603 Here's Feinstein's new Assault weapon bill: http://tinyurl.com/c6fkay3


Those authoritarian statists loooooove their federal databases, don't they?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2012 02:04 AM (zMouK)

604 I thought Jimmy Page was Jesus before I found Jesus. I am devastated.

Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2012 02:02 AM (0PiQ4)


Page also thought he was Jesus, until all the guitarists he helped to create rose up and blew him away. He's the father whose sons outshone him.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 02:05 AM (lJJMb)

605 LZ: hands down! Viking Kittens ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApxnAr6pRt0

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 28, 2012 02:07 AM (9Qc6B)

606 592 I saw a personalized license plate on a car festooned with anti Obama bumper stickers. The license plate read NO 2term
Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2012 01:54 AM (JKNDp)


I would love to have seen that one. I see far too many 0bamanite jackass-mobiles here in NJ. It's fucking depressing. They're not all bottom feeder cars either. Sometimes Audi or Merc

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at December 28, 2012 02:09 AM (wBtFp)

607 Oh come on, Page and and Plant and JPJ playing the "Rain Song"???? No modern day equivalent.

Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2012 02:11 AM (0PiQ4)

608 Odd question (as if there were normal ones on the ONT): Let's play "Who's The Racist?"! I live well outside Nashville, but work in the middle of downtown, in one of the three blue counties in TN. When I see an Obama sticker on a car, I immediately hate the person driving the car and think terrible thoughts. If, as I pass the car and get a look at the driver, I see they're black, I mentally give them a pass. True story.


So - who's worse: me, for accepting others' possibly race-based voting, or them, for possibly voting based on race?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 02:14 AM (lJJMb)

609 When the Levee Breaks, alternate track.

http://tinyurl.com/ks2yzk

Posted by: zeera at December 28, 2012 02:16 AM (3dXwx)

610 StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 02:14 AM (lJJMb)

After a certain age, a rational man accepts that he does not live in a rational world ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 28, 2012 02:17 AM (9Qc6B)

611 Zeera

That's my favorite Zeppelin song. I like you.

Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2012 02:18 AM (0PiQ4)

612
StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 02:14 AM
Only the fools who voted for DUUH WON.
Time to call it quits for the night.
Good night to all.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 28, 2012 02:21 AM (+9AX9)

613 Anybody else really enjoy Led Zeppelin III? I can't understand why people bag on it so often. Good songs, fantastic arrangements, etc.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 28, 2012 02:22 AM (lJJMb)

614 Good night, harleycowboy ...

Actually, Good Night at all here at the ONT. Not feeling the greatest.

Happy 3rd Day of Christmas ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 28, 2012 02:25 AM (9Qc6B)

615 OK WEIRD

new thread open. go read. I haven't yet. Im heading over there. Must be something bad.

Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2012 02:25 AM (0PiQ4)

616 eh I would rather listen to Viking Kittens

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 02:36 AM (BBWjt)

617 or, go to bed.

good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at December 28, 2012 02:38 AM (BBWjt)

618 In the later books ' Foundation and Earth' in 1986, and in the Galactic Empire prequels, didn't Asimov retro-reveal that after the last big nuclear war on the robot Earth, the robots sought out the branches of humanity who hated and rejected robots, and were, disguised as humans, pretty much manipulating and running Imperial history under the supervision of Daneel Olivaw, and THAT is why Seldon's psycho history was initially useful until the Mule showed up and that stupid all psychic Gaia planet was discovered? And the goal was to set up mankind to join the galaxia over-mind system that was tested on Gaia and allow a specially bred intuitive 'super-decider' who always guesses correctly, to decide for Olivaw whether to proceed or not since it MIGHT conflict with the laws of robotics, but then again might not.

Or maybe I misunderstood it. But anyway As he got old, Asimov tried to link all of his stuff together and frankly it all came together like a steaming hot mess.

Posted by: Cackfinger at December 28, 2012 02:56 AM (CCHli)

619 Goodnight chemjeff. Your hashtag will be greatly missed.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 28, 2012 03:01 AM (CakGS)

620 Keep in mind a lot of that later Foundation stuff was based on notes Asimov had made when his publisher pushed the idea of tying everything together as a way to boost sales. Most of the books were actually written by other people after Asimov was dead. He'd had ample opportunity to do this decades earlier but wasn't as compelled by the idea as his publisher.

This is what I call the Marvel Universe effect. Marvel had long had the habit of taking different IP they owned and retroactively stuffing it together in a single history. DC Comics tried the approach of having multiple realities that could be accessed from each other. That way they could have their cake and eat it too by having a stable of characters who first appeared in the late 30's and WWII era, and also the modern versions that were introduced in the late 50s, such as Green Lantern and Flash. Then there were all of the Fawcett characters like Capt. Marvel who were long kept off in their own universe.

Heinlein did it with his books by introducing dimension hopping to allow characters from different timeline to meet. Once you introduce multiple universes in which somewhere any fiction ever conceived is real, all bets are off.

The best way to deal with the Foundation books is to only consider the ones that have Asimov's name alone on the cover as true entries in the series. Everything else was forced and calculated for money more than quality.

Posted by: epobirs at December 28, 2012 03:48 AM (kcfmt)

621 boo yah yous bitches


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 28, 2012 03:52 AM (jfSqj)

622 Or maybe I misunderstood it. But anyway As he got old, Asimov tried to link all of his stuff together and frankly it all came together like a steaming hot mess. Posted by: Cackfinger at December 28, 2012 02:56 AM (CCHli)

Your understanding sounds about right.

Even the original Foundation books had stilted characters with weak dialogue and virtually no sub plots, but the huge ideas carried them along. In the later novels, those ideas did indeed drift across the line between extreme but plausible to quite implausible in.

I still recommend the entire series to anyone serious about science fiction. If for no other reason than to allow them to understand the ubiquitous references and homages strewn across more than the last half century of the genre.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 28, 2012 03:52 AM (jts1f)

623 that URI professor Loomis looks like a pussy.


his kids will probably be pussy's too

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 28, 2012 03:54 AM (jfSqj)

624 Clarification, my 'entire series' comment should have noted the Asmiov-only caveat that epobirs noted.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 28, 2012 03:55 AM (jts1f)

625 A lot of old SF is really bad in terms of humans not acting like humans because the writer frequently lacked experience of real life. (Heinlein's big advantage was being a good decade older than most others when he took up writing after retiring from the Navy due to health problems. Asimov and several other young writers made their first acquaintance with alcohol on Heinlein's yacht.) The interview that lead to the term Sturgeon's Law came about because Sturgeon came from a very different background than most of the SF writers and his works offered far more on a literary level. The interviewer suggested most SF was awful on a literary basis and Sturgeon agreed but noted the same could be said for just about everything written in all genres.

We can name a handful of the people who made a living at writing novels a hundred years ago. For every one still in print there are dozens long forgotten, their works long disintegrated and returned to the Well of Lost Plots. (Per Jasper Fforde.) This can also be said of far more recent decades.

Posted by: epobirs at December 28, 2012 05:45 AM (kcfmt)

626 You can use the socket configuration to learn where your favorite porn is photographed. Just an FYI.

Posted by: walknot at December 28, 2012 11:02 AM (vo2je)

627 Y-Not @ 9:46-
Allen West did not lose. He (and America) was robbed.

Posted by: EROWMER at December 28, 2012 11:38 AM (kxlCQ)

628 Imagine a Krugman holovault!

"I am Paul Krugman. You will of course by now have resolved the latest world crisis. The displacement of the internal combustion engine by portable mag-lev hispeed rail caused much disruption. Yet, by concentrating all political power into the World Government, you will restrain all but the extremist fringe into a cooperative, caring society. That radical element will be resolved, in time, by demographics--"

"HE'S GOT THE WRONG CRISIS!"

Posted by: Chris Balsz at December 28, 2012 12:07 PM (3GtyG)

629 FWIW: You have your Foundation novels in the wrong order. Foundation and Empire comes before Second Foundation.

Posted by: Hube at December 28, 2012 04:15 PM (PbgI6)

630 Well...fuck. There goes that pseudonym.

Posted by: Hari Seldon, Psychohistorian at December 28, 2012 07:06 PM (aZrqG)






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