Overnight Open Thread

Thanks to Niedermeyer's Dead Horse and the cobs for helping me put this together.

Do you think your kids would appreciate having their Easter baskets stuffed with healthier items? Well sure they would!!! What kid wouldn't love to find an Easter basket stuffed with plastic eggs, inside of which are dried fruits??!!

But the best suggestions have to be: Tea, and Stationery.

Yes, stationery. Because children love quality writing paper.

You know, if you give your kid tea and stationery for Easter, you're kind of giving them permission to kill you in your sleep.

Might as well go whole hog and give your kid a Pet Fart (TM) as a gift.

And while you're breaking your children's hearts with gag gifts for Easter, you might keep in mind that some people treat even rats better than that:


A type of insect has been discovered in which the female has the penis -- well, the "intromittent organ," the thing that gets stuck into the other organ.

It's not really a penis, of course. It's just something she sticks inside of the male to painfully leech the sperm out of him.

A study of four species of the Neotrogla genus showed that the penis-like structure of the female, called a gynosome, is inserted into males and used to receive capsules of nutrient and sperm.

Once within a male, part of the gynosome inflates and projects spines which anchor the two insects together.

The scientists found it impossible to pull coupling males and females apart without causing injury.

The insect has been named "Paul Begala," from the Latin for "fivehead twatmuffin."

To save money, and to like be "green" or whatever, the Netherlands is attempting an experiment on a length of road whereby they take down all the streetlights and provide illumination instead only via glow-in-the-dark paint used for the road lines.

Here's a mock-up (I think) of what that might look like:

glowlines.jpg

You might not think the basic design of the axe could be improved upon after... what, gotta be like 40,000 years of constant human use, right? But these Finns say they've done just that.

The traditional axe is simply a heavy wedge that is swung at the wood. If it has enough momentum, it penetrates into the wood, spreads it and thus splits the wood.

In designing the traditional axe the challenge is to find the optimal wedge shape which both penetrates into the wood and splits it. Too shallow an angle and the axe will not split the wood and too wide and the axe will not penetrate.

In practice, everybody who has tried splitting wood with a traditional axe knows that it takes a lot of power to penetrate and split the wood. Consequently, women and children may have serious trouble operating the traditional axe.

...

When using a traditional axe the work is quite slow. It happens quite often that the axe penetrates into the wood but does not have enough energy to split it. The reason is that there is an enormous amount of friction when the wedge penetrates the wood and tries to split it and this friction consumes the axe’s energy. As a result, you have a log that has the axe stuck firmly inside it. Removing it can be quite challenging at times.

So basically the axe is designed to be used by a powerful man using brute force, and only a small amount of mechanical advantage, to split wood.

The "Leveraxe" is built oddly-- the center of momentum isn't in the middle of the blade, but off to the side. So when it strikes wood, it turns, and in turning, it uses some of the momentum you've given it to split the wood apart.

This video shows what I'm talking about:

So, they built the axe "wrong," making it wiggly and wobbly in the hand instead of straight and solid, deliberately engineering a lot of girlish flopping around into it, to allow a weaker, more feminine sort of man to achieve good results with it.

Gee, I wonder where they got that idea from.

They're showing off new composite photographs from the Hubble space telescope.

Below, a movie of a zoom in from the night sky to a cluster called CLASS B1608+656. I'm not sure if they're implying this is real or really real -- that is, is this actually just a video of the zoom in, or is there CGI animation inserted to make the movement smooth?

I don't know. Cool, though.

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Posted by: Ace at 09:03 PM



Comments

1 "Stationery." Like the "e" in "letter," which is how I remember it.

Posted by: TB at April 18, 2014 09:06 PM (8u/5i)

2 What kid wouldn't love to find an Easter basket stuffed with plastic eggs, inside of which are dried fruits??!!/

I have you know I use moisturizer.. *sniff*

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at April 18, 2014 09:06 PM (ujux6)

3 No way!

Posted by: navybrat at April 18, 2014 09:06 PM (JgC5a)

4 Stationery. Because I'm a pedantic asshole. Sorry.

Posted by: Andy in Colorado at April 18, 2014 09:07 PM (iTwmT)

5 Uh, it's stationery. With an "e"

I denounce myself in advance as a pedantic asshole.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at April 18, 2014 09:07 PM (jpc8l)

6 Good grief Andy how'd we do that?!

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at April 18, 2014 09:07 PM (jpc8l)

7 Big Egg is pulling the strings, we all know that.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:08 PM (ZshNr)

8 Nice ONT Ace....

Which is a newish thing..

The Teddy Bear thing...

Like I said WRT Andre Johnson...I've been bored, I've never been THAT bored......

Y'all have a nice evening

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 09:08 PM (TE35l)

9 op cit. 'e' instead of 'a'

fwiw, I hate when people correct my pronuncination.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 18, 2014 09:09 PM (4CVLy)

10 And my axe.

Posted by: Girli, Gimli's annoying little sister at April 18, 2014 09:09 PM (30eLQ)

11 Red planet rising in the east right now around these parts. Just about the only "star" in the sky and red. That means its beer run time.

Posted by: People Corporation at April 18, 2014 09:10 PM (pf+hU)

12 Wait...Ace...ONT...Ace...ONT...

/head asplodes

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 18, 2014 09:10 PM (m9V0o)

13 Bat Chain Puller must be a plagiarist in addition to being a pedantic asshole.

Posted by: Andy in Colorado at April 18, 2014 09:10 PM (iTwmT)

14 well, this is a pleasant surprise

g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 09:11 PM (KCxzN)

15 But the best suggestions have to be: Tea, and Stationery.

Yes, stationery. Because children love quality writing paper.


All I got for Easter as a kid was….Kaboomƒ

Posted by: Some at April 18, 2014 09:11 PM (yz6yg)

16 My wish is that my sons might live in an America when the First Lady, upon being upbraided about using actual eggs for the Easter Egg roll, can reply to the upbraiders: "Get Over Yourselves"

and get a bump in her approval ratings.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 18, 2014 09:11 PM (4CVLy)

17 12 Brother Cavil,

Yp...pics and everything...

The Ewok done good...must be a blood moon apocalypse

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 09:12 PM (TE35l)

18 Ewok ONT. Be careful kiddies

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:12 PM (HVff2)

19 And on stationary not being a gift... meh. Some kids like to draw. Or, when they're older, to map out dungeon corridors / wilderness locations on square / hex paper.

But I wouldn't know anything about that

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2014 09:12 PM (30eLQ)

20 Ewok ONT. Be careful kiddies
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:12 PM (HVff2)


Don't ONTs come with an extra ration of Valu-Rite if Ace posts them?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 09:13 PM (yz6yg)

21 "It's not really a penis, of course. It's just something she sticks inside of the male to painfully leech the sperm out of him."

*****

Hillary just pulls their balls off

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 18, 2014 09:13 PM (/vO0r)

22 The Left's Mark for Modern Sinners

Between Harry Reid's Koch Bros. insignia and Eric Holder's special bracelets for gun owners, the Left loves marking their enemies as 'the other'.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5570

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:13 PM (AymDN)

23 >>It's not really a penis, of course. It's just something she sticks inside of the male to painfully leech the sperm out of him.


It's called a divorce attorney

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:13 PM (HVff2)

24 Jurassic Park VI: The Howard the Duckening

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 09:14 PM (MMC8r)

25 20 Sean Bannion,

That or you can trade the draino er high quality hooch for a hobo skinning knife....

//Monty Haul

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 09:15 PM (TE35l)

26 That's what she said.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:15 PM (ZshNr)

27 Stationery in an Easter basket is real retarded, sir. I mean, who needs to write.

Posted by: Rachel Jenteal at April 18, 2014 09:15 PM (08jH8)

28
Easter baskets stuffed with healthier items?



by Nicole McDermott - About

Nothing makes me happier than playing with puppies (and talking to them like they're human beings). I'm a big fan of coloring, preferably with chalk or crayons.

BTW - this woman is a college grad, in her mid-twenties.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 09:17 PM (kdS6q)

29 "The "Leveraxe" is built oddly-- the head moves, swivels around, on the handle. So when it strikes wood, it turns, and in turning, it uses some of the momentum you've given it to split the wood apart."

Still need a considerable amount of momentum to cleave the wood, even with the side wedge addition. And that log in the video looks like a good aged piece of wood.

Still wouldn't use the thing to battle Orcs, Orks, or Elves...

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 09:17 PM (WlWt+)

30 They can have my chocolate bunny when they pry it from my sugar induced napping hands.

Posted by: Dendritic's grand kid at April 18, 2014 09:18 PM (75hfB)

31 Ace just set paleontology back 200 years.

Nice one, bro.

Posted by: eman at April 18, 2014 09:18 PM (AO9UG)

32 I demand my own restrooms!!!

Posted by: "confused" insect at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM (08jH8)

33 28
Easter baskets stuffed with healthier items?
----

Not to far fetched, I remember Christmas stockings with socks, underwear & handkerchiefs. Once a lump of coal.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM (HVff2)

34 Nothing makes me happier than playing with puppies (and talking to them like they're human beings). I'm a big fan of coloring, preferably with chalk or crayons.

BTW - this woman is a college grad, in her mid-twenties.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 09:17 PM (kdS6q)


But you'd still hit it, right?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM (yz6yg)

35 Headed to sleepy town now. Give me a good classic rock tune to send me off...

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM (ZshNr)

36 This new type of axe actually was invented 40,000 years ago.

The inventor got the shit kicked out of him and the world's first atomic wedgie.

Posted by: eman at April 18, 2014 09:20 PM (AO9UG)

37 Headed to sleepy town now. Give me a good classic rock tune to send me off...
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM (ZshNr)


Sure you don't want a rock ballad?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 09:20 PM (yz6yg)

38 >>>Headed to sleepy town now. Give me a good classic rock tune to send me off...<<<



Enter Sandman... duh.

Posted by: Metallica at April 18, 2014 09:21 PM (08jH8)

39 Ace doing an ONT?

I can but hope that the sloth is on standby…

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:21 PM (AymDN)

40 Oh, what fresh Hell is this?

Posted by: Night of a thousand bannings at April 18, 2014 09:21 PM (wu/TK)

41 35 Headed to sleepy town now. Give me a good classic rock tune to send me off...
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM (ZshNr)


Lola

Posted by: eman at April 18, 2014 09:22 PM (AO9UG)

42 What else to do during a "blood moon" eclipse than shoot a green laser at the moon?

http://tinyurl.com/lg37rox

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 09:22 PM (WlWt+)

43 What the lever ax does is make it easier for the unskilled to split wood. If you've done much splitting you may have learned to put a little twist into it just at the moment the blade strikes the wood. This technique will often split off a piece like you see in the video and the head not stick in the log. Timing is critical. The lever ax apparently will perform the technique for you.

Posted by: hairless mule at April 18, 2014 09:22 PM (Zfb8y)

44 Headed to sleepy town now. Give me a good classic rock tune to send me off...
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM


This should help you sleep....

http://youtu.be/mwyg2YpxdrE

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 09:23 PM (KCxzN)

45 You suggest it, I'll annoy the cats with it. Seriously, I've re-listened all my favorites to death.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:23 PM (ZshNr)

46
But you'd still hit it, right?
Posted by: Sean Bannion




She's Canadian. Pretty sure they've got that penis-like vagina thing mentioned above.

So -- let's put her down as a "maybe".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 09:23 PM (kdS6q)

47 What kid wouldn't love to find an Easter basket stuffed with plastic eggs, inside of which are dried fruits??!!

Plastic eggs which abruptly get thrown at you or on the floor followed by screaming and crying.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 09:23 PM (8c12T)

48 Once within a male, part of the gynosome inflates and projects spines which anchor the two insects together.

Now THAT is rape-rape!

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at April 18, 2014 09:24 PM (hJauc)

49 I suppose I'm getting old. I remember when we used to actually dye real hard-boiled eggs. So much crasser than made-in-China plastic things stuffed with candy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:24 PM (aDwsi)

50 I'm guessing that the gay javelin that the kid invented in "Revenge of the Nerds" was a big influence

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2014 09:24 PM (30eLQ)

51 A type of insect has been discovered in which the female has the penis
-- well, the "intromittent organ," the thing that gets stuck into the
other organ.

Is it called a 'maddow'?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:24 PM (hn5v5)

52 Another Ace ONT?

God alp us.

Posted by: Zombie Sherpa at April 18, 2014 09:24 PM (FdIXx)

53 PhotoShop = Sh! Hot Poop

Posted by: Null at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (xjpRj)

54 >>>It's not really a penis, of course. It's just something she sticks inside of the male to painfully leech the sperm out of him.<<<

And she hasn't used it since Bill was governor of Arkansas.

Posted by: Fritz at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (oJUxt)

55 She's Canadian. Pretty sure they've got that penis-like vagina thing mentioned above.

So -- let's put her down as a "maybe".
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 09:23 PM (kdS6q)


There ya go.

That's the Horde I know!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (yz6yg)

56 The Blood rock thing was a dead link.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (ZshNr)

57 Just found out that my Grandmother has a broken back…

Happy f**kin' Easter.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (AymDN)

58 But the kids would like tea that tastes like candy. For instance:

http://twinings.co.uk/twinings-herbal-sensations/butter-mint-sensation

It tastes a bit like a Werther's Original. You can't get it in the US unless you pay a fortune for shipping through DHL.

It is really good. And I am not a Tea Guy. But when in Britain...

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (T0NGe)

59 NDH
The cobs
ace
Odds are coming out of Vegas it's 12-2 that it was ace who left out some simple command that would have given this post, and the comments a reasonable font size.

Posted by: ghost of... at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (RYVE/)

60 It's not really a penis, of course. It's just something she sticks inside of the male to painfully leech the sperm out of him.


As opposed to a vagina, which is used to (painfully) leech money out of the male.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 09:26 PM (FdIXx)

61 And she hasn't used it since Bill was governor of Arkansas.
Posted by: Fritz at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (oJUxt)


Ok! Let's pack it up and head home.

Thread winner right there. No point in stayin now!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 09:26 PM (yz6yg)

62 That mouse he gonna be a circus mouse

Posted by: John Coffey at April 18, 2014 09:26 PM (aTXUx)

63 You suggest it

After this week may I suggest Crazy Train by Ozzie Osbourne.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 09:26 PM (thLL8)

64 Note the cupped shape of the blade edge. That surely plays a role in the splitting. I *do* wonder what happens when you strike a hard log, I mean one that the blade doesn't penetrate. I'm thinking the axe is going to rotate and bounce.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:26 PM (aDwsi)

65 Oh no Hat. Best wishes for recovery

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2014 09:26 PM (30eLQ)

66 49 I suppose I'm getting old. I remember when we used to actually dye real hard-boiled eggs. So much crasser than made-in-China plastic things stuffed with candy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:24 PM (aDwsi)

With the metal egg dippers that fit into electrical receptacles? Yeah coloring eggs one year was electrifying

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:27 PM (HVff2)

67 I remember ace posting an ONT a while back. If memory serves, it didn't end well.

Also, I'm zonked. Disney is still fun, and the margaritas at Paradisio 37 are outstanding. The food is good and the waitresses are pleasing to the eye.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 18, 2014 09:27 PM (gJ81s)

68 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM (HVff2)

yeah!

My cheapskate parents would give me clothes for Christmas. Not nice clothes or special clothes either. Stuff like socks and underwear.

Stuff they HAD TO BUY ME ANYWAY to fend off the Dept of Children or whatever from taking me away to some nicer family.

I was in the service before I found out that WASN'T A NORMAL GIFT.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:28 PM (JS0vr)

69 Kateurday Open Thread Compliance Pic

http://tinyurl.com/kds89pr

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 09:28 PM (aTXUx)

70 The Blood rock thing was a dead link.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM


My bad. Do you want a working link, or can we call it good?

(At least it wasn't Patches...)

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 09:29 PM (KCxzN)

71 Let boobehs be your Smile

http://tinyurl.com/mbrpgq3

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 09:29 PM (aTXUx)

72 I want one of those axes they use in The Vikings.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 09:29 PM (8c12T)

73
On the jukebox:

IN THIS MOMENT - Whore

http://youtu.be/GurkREc-q4I?t=50s

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 09:29 PM (kdS6q)

74 59 comments are a lot to go look through. That little mouserat makes me think of Ralph the Motercycle Mouse. I've had a few but I'm pretty sure that was a book. Anyone else remember it? I think he drove a toy motorcycle and stole an aspirin to save a life.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 09:30 PM (wqh09)

75 Doesn't it snow in the Netherlands? What if the snow covers the lines?

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 09:30 PM (8c12T)

76 If there are any fellow Mets fans on tonight, the Mets traded Ike Davis to the Pirates for a AAA reliever and a player to be named later

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 09:31 PM (aTXUx)

77 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:28 PM (JS0vr)

I shouldn't bitch, my parents grew up during the depression. But....as a kid some candy in the stocking would have been nice

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:31 PM (HVff2)

78 "...permission to kill you in your sleep."

So very true. Some asshole teacher is always suggesting healthy snacks at the holiday parties so the kids don't get hyper.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 18, 2014 09:32 PM (Q6g1g)

79 69 Kateurday Open Thread Compliance Pic

http://tinyurl.com/kds89pr
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 09:28 PM (aTXUx)


Meh

Posted by: eman at April 18, 2014 09:33 PM (AO9UG)

80 Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (T0NGe)

I've seen one's like that (may be different brand) at World Market. The citrus/tea flavor was pretty good.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:33 PM (GDulk)

81 I guess I picked the wrong night to start a riot.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2014 09:34 PM (IN7k+)

82 It's a sign of the apocalypse!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 09:34 PM (T1005)

83 Wow.

Here I was recently mentioning Ace's prior attempt at an ONT.

And then this happens. Is this a thing?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 18, 2014 09:34 PM (oFCZn)

84 Doesn't it snow in the Netherlands? What if the snow covers the lines?
You turn on your Brinkers.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:35 PM (hn5v5)

85 So very true. Some asshole teacher is always suggesting healthy snacks at the holiday parties so the kids don't get hyper.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 18, 2014 09:32 PM (Q6g1g)

Said teacher never has to pick moldy celery sticks from under the bed because that's where the kids stuck them

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 09:35 PM (aTXUx)

86 41 35 Headed to sleepy town now. Give me a good classic rock tune to send me off... 

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 09:19 PM (ZshNr) 
-----
Romeo and Juliet - Dire Straits

Posted by: shredded chi at April 18, 2014 09:35 PM (vztUc)

87 I shouldn't bitch, my parents grew up during the depression. But....as a kid some candy in the stocking would have been nice

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:31 PM (HVff2)


Makes me laugh.... My parents were dirt poor but somehow managed to give me a calculater, an alarm clock and a saddle for for Christmas when I was young. I show up to work an hour early every day, I can't add for shit and you couldn't get me on another horse for a million dollars.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 09:36 PM (wqh09)

88 The crows were calling his name, thought Caw.

Posted by: Jack Handey at April 18, 2014 09:36 PM (pf+hU)

89
I'm available for an early evening hook-up, and I'll make it very pleasurable by inserting my gynosom into your anal cavity. Call me honey!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 18, 2014 09:37 PM (nQjHM)

90 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:28 PM (JS0vr)

That's what we celebrated St. Nicholas Day for. Made my parents happy to be able to give us a few non-essentials for Christmas.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:37 PM (GDulk)

91 First, you give kids "healthy" treats for Halloween, and then "healthy" treats for Easter? Geez Louise, it's no wonder an entire generation wants to be stoned all the time.....

/can we call social services? that seems like it should be 'child abuse'

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at April 18, 2014 09:38 PM (25HWz)

92 So..., is 'The Gynosome of Satan' is going to become a mainstay here?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:38 PM (aDwsi)

93 Oh no Hat. Best wishes for recovery

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2014 09:26 PM (30eLQ)


TY

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:38 PM (AymDN)

94 Looks like a good one Ace!

Posted by: Zakn at April 18, 2014 09:39 PM (7F9i5)

95 Btw, surely everybody here is hyped up to know that there is now a planned sequel to "Mrs. Doubtfire". You know, that movie from the 90's where Robin Williams dresses up as a grandma to see his kids.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/04/18/mrs-doubtfire-2-should-make-us-sad/

Also, Mrs. Doubtfire could have easily been a horror movie:

http://tinyurl.com/ceqxdag

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 09:39 PM (WlWt+)

96 Anyone else sick and frucking tired of the Sprint Framily plan ads?

Syrias, you guys, what's the deal with the frather being a hamster in the bubble? A hamster doesn't need a phrone line? It makes no sense... well, maaaybe if it was Richard Gere's framily.

Posted by: make 'em stop!!! at April 18, 2014 09:39 PM (08jH8)

97 90 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:28 PM (JS0vr)

That's what we celebrated St. Nicholas Day for. Made my parents happy to be able to give us a few non-essentials for Christmas.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:37 PM (GDulk)

Dam Catholics have all the luck. All I got was a jello salad with carrot shavings in it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)

98 Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (AymDN)

Prayers for your Gramma TPH.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:40 PM (GDulk)

99 If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

Posted by: Jack Handey at April 18, 2014 09:40 PM (pf+hU)

100 >>> Yes, stationery. Because children love quality writing paper.


I hated that yellow stuff we had in 1st grade that had big chunks of wood in it.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 09:40 PM (8MjqI)

101 79 69 Kateurday Open Thread Compliance Pic


http://tinyurl.com/kds89pr
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 09:28 PM (aTXUx)

Meh

Posted by: eman at April 18, 2014 09:33 PM (AO9UG)

Careful there pal, Ace is hosting this ONT and if I recall his policy on anyone talking smack about Kate will result in a lifetime ban and a drone strike on your house


Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 09:40 PM (aTXUx)

102 Wishing a speedy and safe recovery for your Gammie, Hat.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 09:41 PM (FdIXx)

103
is 'The Gynosome of Satan' is going to become a mainstay here?
Posted by: Mike Hammer




Not until I've had my day in the sun.

Posted by: Lapland Reindeer Vasectomy

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 09:41 PM (kdS6q)

104 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)

Not even Catholic. My dad served in Germany in the Air Force and they picked up the idea there apparently.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:41 PM (GDulk)

105 Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (AymDN)

Prayers for your Gramma TPH.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:40 PM (GDulk)


TY

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:42 PM (AymDN)

106 Hat, sorry to hear about your granny. Best wishes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:43 PM (HVff2)

107 Twinings is widely available in the US.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 09:43 PM (T1005)

108 That axe is gayer than two old queens having a competition to see who can blow the biggest smoke rings out of their ass.

Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Richard Simmons at April 18, 2014 09:44 PM (D46MP)

109 Hat, sorry to hear about your granny. Best wishes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:43 PM (HVff2)


TY, and everyone else.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (AymDN)

110 I ran across this image of Reagan randomly.

http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/w2LkAGM2.jpg

Who is the woman standing behind him?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (M3hAT)

111 Dam Catholics have all the luck. All I got was a jello salad with carrot shavings in it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)


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Count yourself lucky. My mom tried to make the jello but it was spoon edible. Carrots would have upset dad.Dad has a delicate stomach. My mom was the worst cook on the planet. Taco salad was browned hamburger with lettuce (no chips or sauce) Chili was browned hamburger and tomato juice, taverns were browned hamburger and a bun........you get the picture. My husband use to laugh until I took him home one time. Been married 20 yrs and he has eaten mom's cooking one time.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (wqh09)

112
For your information, we don't fap, we tap tap tap!

Posted by: Neotrogla genus at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (nQjHM)

113 Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (AymDN)



I am very sorry that your grandmother has had this injury, and I hope there is a good prognosis for recovery.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (bb5+k)

114 I was told there would be lemurs.

Posted by: freaked at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (JdEZJ)

115 Bleg, I just opened an Etsy shop (link in sock) and would like feedback.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:47 PM (GDulk)

116 99 If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

Posted by: Jack Handey at April 18, 2014 09:40 PM (pf+hU)



There truly are some wits who inhabit these threads.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 09:47 PM (bb5+k)

117 The crows were calling his name, thought Caw.


Crows have a call that sounds like monkeys in a Tarzan movie.

Waa-aa-aa-aa-aa-aa-aa!!

Posted by: fluffy at April 18, 2014 09:47 PM (Ua6T/)

118 I like to keep things simple for Easter. You know, just some decorative eggs and such.

Posted by: Alexandra Feodorovna Romanov at April 18, 2014 09:48 PM (8MjqI)

119 How bad is it, Hat? There's broken and broken and broken and broken -- are they talking about putting her in traction, or doing PT?


Here's hopes for an uneventful and speedy recovery either way.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 09:48 PM (T1005)

120 Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (wqh09

Maybe the gifts were to make up for the meals. My mom was a great cook, her & dad weren't the best gift givers. But they loved us & did the best they could.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:48 PM (HVff2)

121 Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 09:47 PM (bb5+k)

Yeah and their first name is Nit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:48 PM (JS0vr)

122 Comments got thin there for a few minutes...did CAC stomp the ONT again?

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 09:49 PM (KCxzN)

123 111
Dam Catholics have all the luck. All I got was a jello salad with carrot shavings in it.



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)





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Count yourself lucky. My mom tried to make the jello but it was
spoon edible. Carrots would have upset dad.Dad has a delicate stomach.
My mom was the worst cook on the planet. Taco salad was browned
hamburger with lettuce (no chips or sauce) Chili was browned hamburger
and tomato juice, taverns were browned hamburger and a bun........you
get the picture. My husband use to laugh until I took him home one
time. Been married 20 yrs and he has eaten mom's cooking one time.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (wqh09)
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Are we related?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 09:49 PM (T1005)

124 Use live nude models as the display mannequins, Polliwog.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:49 PM (hn5v5)

125 Glow in the dark roads..... Deer and Hogs.... not real sure about this.... but it does look cool!

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at April 18, 2014 09:50 PM (L4CWX)

126 Anyone else remember it? I think he drove a toy motorcycle and stole an aspirin to save a life.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 09:30 PM (wqh09)


The Mouse and the Motorcycle, still have a copy.

What? I have a 3 year old grandson.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 09:50 PM (DA9Jf)

127 Hey, hot peeps!

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 09:50 PM (8lmkt)

128 GGE; did you go to the Mustang event in NC the other day?

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 09:52 PM (KCxzN)

129 I hated boring dinners like meatloaf and green beans. Then I went away to college and craves the stuff.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 09:52 PM (8c12T)

130 Yikes Hat, hope the recovery prognosis is good.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 09:52 PM (DA9Jf)

131 Polliwog, good presentation. The dress dummy makes the items much more appealing than if they were laid out flat.

Do you want the date in your photos?

Posted by: fluffy at April 18, 2014 09:52 PM (Ua6T/)

132 hey, Peaches

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 09:52 PM (KCxzN)

133 The Mouse and the Motorcycle


Beverly Cleary is still alive. She's 98.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 18, 2014 09:53 PM (oFCZn)

134 Hat, best wishes

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 09:54 PM (KCxzN)

135 130 I hated boring dinners like meatloaf and green beans. Then I went away to college and craves the stuff.
Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 09:52 PM (8c12T)

There are some things I haven't touched since I left home in 1978

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:54 PM (HVff2)

136 Hey Peaches check out Polliwog Ette's Etsy shop (115 link in sock)

Us male types may not have good opinions to give.

(andycanuck I'm looking at you.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:54 PM (JS0vr)

137 So you're not the frozen Peaches tonight?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:54 PM (hn5v5)

138 GGE; did you go to the Mustang event in NC the other day?

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 09:52 PM (KCxzN)


It's still going on, but no. Had to work Wednesday and Thursday, I think tomorrow is the last day. There's another big event being held simultaneously in Vegas, FWIW.

I wouldn't have gone anyway, I hate battling crowds and traffic, and by the videos and pics I've seen there was plenty of both.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 09:54 PM (DA9Jf)

139 Best wishes for Gramma Hat

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 09:54 PM (DL2i+)

140 Hey! What did I do?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:55 PM (hn5v5)

141 Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:25 PM (AymDN)

Ah, sweetie, that sucks. Prayers up.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 09:55 PM (8lmkt)

142 Come on. At least I specified "live" models!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:55 PM (hn5v5)

143 Are we related?


Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 09:49 PM (T1005)


.............


Dear Lord there are 2 of us?

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 09:56 PM (wqh09)

144 I am very sorry that your grandmother has had this injury, and I hope there is a good prognosis for recovery.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 09:45 PM (bb5+k)

How bad is it, Hat? There's broken and broken and broken and broken -- are they talking about putting her in traction, or doing PT?

Here's hopes for an uneventful and speedy recovery either way.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 09:48 PM (T1005)


It's not good. She's been moved to a home where she'll get 24/7 medical care. Doubtful she'll make a full recovery. This is addition to her no longer remembering loved ones, as well as her suffering from Mylodysplastic syndrome.

Seeing her on Easter. Hopefully this isn't her last.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:56 PM (AymDN)

145
I love the idea for 'portioned' candy...anybody with a candy bowl at work knows how well that'll work!

My nephews asked for chocolate bunnies and that's what they're getting. (little cousin asked for princess jellybeans! Which are shimmery and kind of adorable).

Posted by: Lea at April 18, 2014 09:56 PM (/bd0t)

146 115 Bleg, I just opened an Etsy shop (link in sock) and would like feedback.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:47 PM (GDulk)



Wow! You have some gorgeous work there!
Just lovely.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 09:56 PM (oMKp3)

147 Bleg, I just opened an Etsy shop (link in sock) and would like feedback.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:47 PM (GDulk)

wow, Polli, very nice!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 09:57 PM (8lmkt)

148 I've been buying jolly rancher jelly beans & all my kids are gone

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:57 PM (HVff2)

149 I linked some of these in the last thread, but here is SpaceX's webcast of today's launch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od-lON4bTyQ

Liftoff is at about 39:50, but before then there are some segments showing their factory that are worth watching.

At ignition, a column of dirty water shot up and doused the rocket. Here is a good photo showing it streaked with mud as it departs the launch pad. Click the photo to enlarge, or click the file name to download it.

https://tinyurl.com/lagvqbf

The photo also shows Falcon 9's landing legs. I'm pretty sure this is the first time in history that an orbital launch vehicle was fitted with landing legs. Up till now, that sort of thing was only found in science fiction.

There have been several tweets indicating that the test was successful, and the first stage made a soft landing on the ocean surface.

Here is footage of the F9R test vehicle released today. This is what first stage recovery will ultimately look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjWqQPWmsY

All in all, today was a great day in space history.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 09:57 PM (sdi6R)

150 Regarding the girl bug penis:

Professionally butthurt SF blogger Analee Newitz emits a professionally butthurt blog post about how butthurt she is that this STRONG FEMALE INSECT CHARACTER is diminished by having her unique snowflake girl bug parts called a penis. Because penises are yucky. (N.B.: Newitz's girlfriend is an ex-dude.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 09:58 PM (xaTUa)

151 Seeing her on Easter. Hopefully this isn't her last.
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:56 PM (AymDN)




I'm so sorry to hear of your grandma's condition. I'll add her to my prayers this evening.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 09:58 PM (oMKp3)

152 Do you want the date in your photos?

Posted by: fluffy at April 18, 2014 09:52 PM (Ua6T/)

Hadn't quite decided. It proves they're recent but may be distracting. Eldest Kidlet is my photographer so I'll need to talk to her about that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 09:58 PM (GDulk)

153 Whoops: here's the link, in case you want to see it.

http://io9.com/your-penis-is-getting-in-the-way-of-my-science-1564473352

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (xaTUa)

154 I see that Healthy Easter treats snacks suggested peanut butter eggs for the kiddies

Did they include the phone number of a lawyer when one of the little snowflakes go into anaphylaxis shock?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (aTXUx)

155 Nice ONT. Thanks!

Posted by: Y-not at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (zDsvJ)

156 121 Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 09:47 PM (bb5+k)

Yeah and their first name is Nit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:48 PM (JS0vr)


Yeah, there's a few of those as well.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (bb5+k)

157 is anyone else a little drunkish or is it just me? be nice to have a little company here in my cups.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (8lmkt)

158 Hat, sorry to hear this. Being immobilized is very traumatic even for those who seem to be unaware of their surroundings.

Besides the pain they feel less than adult. Old age is faces reduced circumstances at the best of times.

Visits and attention will help. Don't try to carry the load yourself if you have others, nag them into visiting.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (JS0vr)

159 I've been buying jolly rancher jelly beans & all my kids are gone

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:57 PM (HVff2)
.............


They didn't like em? Seems like a pretty silly reason to leave

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (wqh09)

160
I've been buying jolly rancher jelly beans all my kids are gone

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:57 PM (HVff2)


Skittles jellybeans, Jolly Ranchers jellybeans, and my favorite, Starburst jellybeans. They only make them for Easter, so you gotta get them while you can!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:00 PM (DA9Jf)

161 Red Wings take game 1 from the Bruins!

Posted by: can finally breathe now at April 18, 2014 10:00 PM (08jH8)

162 Sorry about your grandma, Political hat. It sounds so hard and particularly devastating too when she doesn't remember family members, I will pray for her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2014 10:00 PM (XyM/Y)

163 Posted by: The Political Hat at April 18, 2014 09:56 PM (AymDN)
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I'm so sorry, Hat -- prayers going out.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 10:00 PM (T1005)

164
As to healthy Easter baskets, I admit to putting fruit snacks and socks inside.

What? They're all getting hula hoops too so stop looking at me.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 10:00 PM (oMKp3)

165 158 is anyone else a little drunkish or is it just me? be nice to have a little company here in my cups.
Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (8lmkt)


Oh yeah, you can count on me to be drunkish.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 10:01 PM (sdi6R)

166 Hmm. Now I am thinking I should take out the cute pack of bunny Kleenex I added to my son's Easter basket...

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 10:01 PM (RZ8pf)

167
is anyone else a little drunkish or is it just me? be nice to have a little company here in my cups.


Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (8lmkt)


Not yet, but another hour in skating rink hell will contribute nicely to my burning desire to drink myself to sleep tonight.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:01 PM (DA9Jf)

168 Okay. who embiggened the thread?

Come clean now and I won't scroll up the thread and shame you later.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (DmNpO)

169 One thing kids will try to discover with dried fruits

How hard do you have to throw them to leave a welt on your little brother

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (aTXUx)

170 158 is anyone else a little drunkish or is it just me? be nice to have a little company here in my cups.


Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (8lmkt)

.............

A little drunkish? GO big or go home!!! I was starting to feel a little "off kilter" so I switched to ice tea. I will be around for a bit only because I have to pee out all the alcohol before I can go to bed.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (wqh09)

171 That lever axe looks like it might be useful for splitting firewood, but it's not an axe. It's a variant of a splitting maul. Axes are for chopping across the grain, or making oblique cuts. They really aren't meant for splitting firewood, although they always get misused that way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (4m+Gx)

172 This ONT brought to you by Wide Track Pontiac for 1963!

Posted by: Pontiac Motor Division at April 18, 2014 10:03 PM (aTXUx)

173 Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 10:01 PM (RZ8pf)

I would unless you want him posting about you in 30-40 years :-)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:03 PM (HVff2)

174 Thanks to those who took a look at the shop. Are the blurbs reasonably informative? Anything I'm in a habit of leaving out?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:03 PM (GDulk)

175 Funny. You guys don't look Drunkish.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 10:03 PM (hn5v5)

176 I don't want to see a follow to "Mrs. Doubtfire" How much can they mess it up?Robin Williams' character will be playing the role for his own grandchildren? He's decided after all that he's going to come out of the closet as a gay man? The break up of his marriage made him realize the truth about himself?!!
Groan!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2014 10:03 PM (XyM/Y)

177 Come clean now and I won't scroll up the thread and shame you later.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (DmNpO

..................


I posted something earlier and noticed it was rather large. If I had anything to do with it I had no clue at the time or nor do I now.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:04 PM (wqh09)

178 gahh...I know I've warned that boy about the redheads...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:04 PM (DA9Jf)

179 I did find a cute hexbug nano bunny for his basket too. And of course there is candy in it. Though we still have the candy from last Easter in the cabinet. And Halloween. And Christmas. And Valentine's Day. We eat a lot less candy than I buy.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 10:04 PM (RZ8pf)

180
My wife read on the web that you can use Kool-Aid to dye your eggs, so the kids did theirs tonight and it worked. Sure beats that nasty vinegar and dye stuff.

The best part is that they don't eat hard boiled eggs, so I will be stylin.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 10:04 PM (hJauc)

181 Not yet, but another hour in skating rink hell will contribute nicely to my burning desire to drink myself to sleep tonight.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:01 PM (DA9Jf)

Oh, lordy, GGE! {shoves some tequila through the usb port to my fine friend on the other coast}

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)

182 172 That lever axe looks like it might be useful for splitting firewood, but it's not an axe. It's a variant of a splitting maul. Axes are for chopping across the grain, or making oblique cuts. They really aren't meant for splitting firewood, although they always get misused that way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (4m+Gx)

Oh great, now we're going to get into Axe vs Maul battles

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 10:05 PM (aTXUx)

183 Greetings to All !!!! And YAY RED WINGS WIN !!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at April 18, 2014 10:05 PM (5i2Nz)

184 I find myself wondering about the Perpetually Butthurt people. Are they just doing it for the clicks and ad revenue? If so, don't they get tired of it? Having to come up with some new thing every damned day to pretend to get upset about? It must be like being the intern at Cosmopolitan who has to come up with a new way to say "Five Sex Tips That Will Make You Die Of An Orgasm-Aneurysm!" every damned month.

And if it's for real, if she's not just doing it for the click dollars, what kind of a damaged person spends her (?) whole life constantly upset and indignant about incredibly trivial things? Aren't there health issues associated with constant anger? Won't she just drop dead of a cerebral hemorrhage if she keeps it up?

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (xaTUa)

185 How hard do you have to throw them to leave a welt on your little brother



Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (aTXUx)


Don't be silly. You don't THROW dried fruit!

that's why you have rubber bands...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (DA9Jf)

186 only because I have to pee out all the alcohol before I can go to bed.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (wqh09)

Maybe it's my age, but a wicked beer piss is possibly better than an orgasm . . . your results may vary.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (8lmkt)

187
This is so very confusing. Is the the ONT?

If so why is ace posting it?

Will he read the comments and ban everyone?

I not taking any chances, good night.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (0FSuD)

188 What is it with liberal guys that they all have to do some role where they get to dress up as a woman?

Is there a Freudian slip there?

Or is it just a cigar?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (JS0vr)

189 Oh great, now we're going to get into Axe vs Maul battles



Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 10:05 PM (aTXUx)

Somebody's cruising for a mauling.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (4m+Gx)

190 Just found out that my Grandmother has a broken back…

****

I'm so sorry and I pray she makes a full recovery.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (DmNpO)

191 Will he read the comments

are ya daft??

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (8lmkt)

192 My wife read on the web that you can use Kool-Aid to dye your eggs, so the kids did theirs tonight and it worked. Sure beats that nasty vinegar and dye stuff.

The best part is that they don't eat hard boiled eggs, so I will be stylin.
...............


I read a thing today about how to roll them through shaving cream. Pretty cool. I'm not a hip granny though and bought my granddaughters pre-made.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (wqh09)

193 Oh great, now we're going to get into Axe vs Maul battles
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 10:05 PM (aTXUx)

Ginger vs. Mary Ann was getting boring.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (HVff2)

194 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 10:04 PM (hJauc)

Unsugared Kool-aid (or any drink mix really) is a decent general dye for animal proteins. Did the recipe not call for adding vinegar? Dyeing fiber requires that an acid be added and vinegar is usually the one since it's cheap.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (GDulk)

195 Oh, lordy, GGE! {shoves some tequila through the usb port to my fine friend on the other coast}


Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)


Thanks darlin', you're a lifesaver.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (DA9Jf)

196 And your site is displaying the costs in Canadian dollars for me, Polliwog. So if that was intentional and not a quirk of the browser I'm using or something technical like that, then it's working.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 10:08 PM (hn5v5)

197 172
That lever axe looks like it might be useful for splitting firewood, but it's not an axe.
It's a variant of a splitting maul. Axes are for chopping across the
grain, or making oblique cuts. They really aren't meant for splitting
firewood, although they always get misused that way.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (4m+Gx)
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Aren't they sometimes referred to as a "cross-axe" and a "long-axe"?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 10:08 PM (T1005)

198 If that rat and his teddy bear don't get their own animated movie, something is wrong with the world.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)

199 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2014 10:03 PM (XyM/Y)

In that view, "Mrs. Doubtfire" really is the prequel to "The Bird Cage", .

Any popular movie from 2000 and earlier is going to either get a sequel or a remake. I doubt there will ever be a Ghostbusters 3 (unless you count the game), but it'll probably be rebooted.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 10:08 PM (WlWt+)

200 I'd axe you to the maul but it's treely late.

I wooden want you to be bored or feel cut down in the morning.

we can go chopping tomorrow.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (JS0vr)

201 If that rat and his teddy bear don't get their own animated movie, something is wrong with the world.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)

Yup, that is some epic cuteness right there!

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (8lmkt)

202 Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (0FSuD)

I warned you early.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (HVff2)

203
All in all, today was a great day in space history.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 09:57 PM (sdi6R)


I am very happy that Private enterprise is taking a more dominant role in developing space technology. That's the stuff that a lot of people have been dreaming about for many decades. It's inspiring.


That being said, I'd be a little uneasy to notice so much smoke coming off the landing legs. I hope the heat doesn't compromise the structural integrity of whatever they are made of.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (bb5+k)

204 Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (wqh09)

Mom's favorite cousin did that this year and posted it to FaceBook. Not sure what the specific technique is but she said they were really pretty.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (GDulk)

205 I read a thing today about how to roll them through
shaving cream. Pretty cool. I'm not a hip granny though and bought my
granddaughters pre-made.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (wqh09)



I got the plastic ones shaped like Darth Vader heads. Cause Darth Vader heads.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (DA9Jf)

206 I'm sorry about your grandmother, Political Hat.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (sdi6R)

207 Why don't we do a thread about Bush's lies to the American people rather then always blaming our black president for everything???

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (JmsLl)

208 Unsugared Kool-aid (or any drink mix really) is a
decent general dye for animal proteins. Did the recipe not call for
adding vinegar? Dyeing fiber requires that an acid be added and vinegar
is usually the one since it's cheap.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:07 PM (GDulk)

Well Kool-Ade contains citric acid, which should etch the egg shells enough that the dye "takes." You can dissolve nails with concentrated citric acid; it's pretty potent stuff.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 10:10 PM (4m+Gx)

209 Surprised one of the other wood cutting morons hasn't said this but , that new finnish ax is really more of a splitting maul . Real axes are for cutting as in felling trees and what not . A splitting maul has a much more pronounced wedge shape and are usually heavier , like 7 or 8 lbls .
That new finnish ax also looks like a blister and achy elbow inducer , cause of the shock and vibration transmitted up the ax handle .
My two cents , anyway .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 18, 2014 10:10 PM (whqez)

210 Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 10:08 PM (hn5v5)

Apparently it has some sort of monetary "auto-translate" which is pretty cool. I'm not sure what reasonable shipping out of country is though so haven't activated that part.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (GDulk)

211 only because I have to pee out all the alcohol before I can go to bed.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (wqh09)

Maybe it's my age, but a wicked beer piss is possibly better than an orgasm . . . your results may vary.


Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (8lmkt)
.............


How old are you? I consider getting up to urinate a pain in the ass. I'm 44. Havent been with a man in over 7 years. Am I doing it wrong?

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (wqh09)

212 Aren't they sometimes referred to as a "cross-axe" and a "long-axe"?


Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 10:08 PM (T1005)


nicely done...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (DA9Jf)

213 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 09:54 PM

Understood. I'm "done" with cars (20+ years in TheStoopidBusiness™ jades one about the product), but the Mustang still moves me. In college, pushing thirty years ago, I wrote a 20 page research paper on the launch of the original. I did (as Design Engineer) the headliner and package tray on the 2004 Mustang. But more importantly, I have physical scars on my knuckles from spinning wrenches on old 'Stangs, most notably a handful of 1971 Mach One's (351 Clevelands, bolted to C6 transmissions)

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (KCxzN)

214 Actually felling a tree with an axe is a miserable, exhausting job. Splitting wood is like catching soap bubbles compared to chopping through it. It's about 100 times easier to split wood along the grain rather than to cut across the grain. When you think about our ancestors clearing this whole continent of gigantic first-growth hardwoods using nothing but axes, you realize how fucking weak and puny we are.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (xaTUa)

215 158 is anyone else a little drunkish or is it just me? be nice to have a little company here in my cups.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 09:59 PM (8lmkt)


Sorry, never drink on Friday nights. Too much work needs to be done on Saturdays, and it's a lot easier when you're not hungover.

I don't do any half-measures when it comes to drinking.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (bb5+k)

216 I knew I'd be too late with my ax vs. maul comment .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 18, 2014 10:12 PM (whqez)

217 208 Why don't we do a thread about Bush's lies to the American people rather then always blaming our black president for everything???

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (JmsLl)

Cause we be Racist, yeah, that's it!

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 10:12 PM (0FSuD)

218 204
That being said, I'd be a little uneasy to notice so much smoke coming off the landing legs. I hope the heat doesn't compromise the structural integrity of whatever they are made of.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (bb5+k)


There's been some discussion and speculation about that. Some think it was paint burning.

The test vehicle has fixed legs, but the actual rocket keeps them retracted for most of the flight. They will probably be deployed at the last moment before touchdown, like the Shuttle's landing gear.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 10:12 PM (sdi6R)

219 How old are you? I consider getting up to urinate a
pain in the ass. I'm 44. Havent been with a man in over 7 years. Am I
doing it wrong?

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (wqh09)

At the risk of grossing out the horde, I am 62 and I lost count at 10 years, after the sudden and tragic demise of the late great mr. peaches. And, yeah, we're probably both doing it wrong. {shrugs}

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (8lmkt)

220 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 10:10 PM (4m+Gx)

Ah, thanks for the explanation.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (GDulk)

221 low hanging curve ball...not gonna swing at that one...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (DA9Jf)

222 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (GDulk)

There should be widgets available for most shipping options. So you only have to supply size and weight classes for your items.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (JS0vr)

223 172 That lever axe looks like it might be useful for splitting firewood, but it's not an axe. It's a variant of a splitting maul. Axes are for chopping across the grain, or making oblique cuts. They really aren't meant for splitting firewood, although they always get misused that way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 10:02 PM (4m+Gx)


I would suspect that a Canadian might know a thing or two about Lumberjacking.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (bb5+k)

224
I'm pretty sure it was just the kool-aid Polli. no vinegar cause that smells.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (hJauc)

225 If you've never seen The Impossible, it's on Showtime right now.

At least watch it for the next 5 minutes or so because the scene when the tsunami hits is unbelievable

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:14 PM (DmNpO)

226 218 208 Why don't we do a thread about Bush's lies to the American people rather then always blaming our black president for everything???

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (JmsLl)

Wait, I think we should blame the white half of the President. Why does his Black half always get the credit?

Posted by: Rev Wright at April 18, 2014 10:14 PM (0FSuD)

227 Nip - Per question earlier thread. Light drizzle on/off today temps in the low 50's, so no snow. Couple of cold nights early in the week though. Mid 20's. Couple of flurries ..., uh..., this past Monday, I think. C'mon up...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 10:16 PM (aDwsi)

228 Cleared the eastern forests with axes and two man crosscut saws . Imagine too , using a crosscut saw to make every board in a floor , or for ship planking .
Men indeed .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 18, 2014 10:16 PM (whqez)

229 Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (xaTUa)

For the most part, they didn't cut down large trees with axes. They used double handed hand saws.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:16 PM (JS0vr)

230 And if it's for real, if she's not just doing it for the click dollars, what kind of a damaged person spends her (?) whole life constantly upset and indignant about incredibly trivial things? Aren't there health issues associated with constant anger? Won't she just drop dead of a cerebral hemorrhage if she keeps it up?

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 10:06 PM (xaTUa)

Some people live, eat, and breath it 24/7. I can't do it myself, I get "Outrage Fatigue". That's one reason I haven't tuned into talk radio in ages.

Even on the intertubes, I go on sports sites, music sites, and (ahem) uh... "exotic entertainment" sites


Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 10:16 PM (aTXUx)

231 I consider getting up to urinate a pain in the ass. I'm 44. Havent been with a man in over 7 years. Am I doing it wrong?


If your couch cushions smell like stale urine, that will keep most men away.

Posted by: fluffy at April 18, 2014 10:16 PM (Ua6T/)

232 208 Why don't we do a thread about Bush's lies to the American people rather then always blaming our black president for everything???

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (JmsLl)


Because then we would have nothing to talk about.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 10:17 PM (bb5+k)

233 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (JS0vr)

The part I've found so far needed a specific destination to get the shipping price. I'm sure I should at least add Canada though so it's probably worth while to look into it further.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:17 PM (GDulk)

234 In college, pushing thirty years ago, I wrote a 20
page research paper on the launch of the original. I did (as Design
Engineer) the headliner and package tray on the 2004 Mustang. But more
importantly, I have physical scars on my knuckles from spinning wrenches
on old 'Stangs, most notably a handful of 1971 Mach One's (351
Clevelands, bolted to C6 transmissions)

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (KCxzN)


Oh, I'm not done with the cars, just don't like the crowds. I have friends (through the Mustang Forums, in fact) who live in Charlotte and are attending all of the festivities (they're both retired) so I'm getting the full video feed.

On a related note, I wasn't sure how crazy I was about the 2015, but the more I see it the better I like it. Not quite ready to trade the 2011 CS 'vert in yet...but I'm working real hard on talking myself out of a fastback...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:17 PM (DA9Jf)

235 208
Why don't we do a thread about Bush's lies to the American people rather
then always blaming our black president for everything???

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 18, 2014 10:09 PM (JmsLl)

If you want me to hurt you, just say so straight out. Don't be coy, you're just not that good at it, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:17 PM (8lmkt)

236 Real men just rip the wood apart.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 10:17 PM (aDwsi)

237 hi all
ugh
did Ace write the ONT? not too sure, thought I saw his byline while whizzing down the page to read the comments

Posted by: chemjeff at April 18, 2014 10:18 PM (9GG/0)

238 220 How old are you? I consider getting up to urinate a
pain in the ass. I'm 44. Havent been with a man in over 7 years. Am I
doing it wrong?

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (wqh09)

At the risk of grossing out the horde, I am 62 and I lost count at 10 years, after the sudden and tragic demise of the late great mr. peaches. And, yeah, we're probably both doing it wrong. {shrugs}

Maybe we need videos so we can help

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:19 PM (HVff2)

239 Can you eat the eggs after using the shaving cream method?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 10:19 PM (RZ8pf)

240 220 How old are you? I consider getting up to urinate a
pain in the ass. I'm 44. Havent been with a man in over 7 years. Am I
doing it wrong?

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:11 PM (wqh09)

At the risk of grossing out the horde, I am 62 and I lost count at 10 years, after the sudden and tragic demise of the late great mr. peaches. And, yeah, we're probably both doing it wrong. {shrugs}


Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (8lmkt)


............

Yeah we probably are. Iv'e been married for 20 years, sleep on the couch and probably love my dog more then Mr. Molly. Funny thing is when I was young I thought if I wasn't married by 18 I would be a failure. Priorities change and now mine are my kids, grandkid and finally ME Although probably by most standards my husband is spoiled rotten too.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:19 PM (wqh09)

241 Alton - Any experience designing ignition switches? Give us a call...

Posted by: GM at April 18, 2014 10:19 PM (aDwsi)

242 Lip balm...in an Easter basket....who are these people?

Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2014 10:20 PM (HtUkt)

243 I would suspect that a Canadian might know a thing or two about Lumberjacking.







Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 10:13 PM (bb5+k)

I'm not a lumberjack (but I'm OK). But I did stake mining claims for quite a few years, and that required that one chop down a tree every 500 meters on the perimeter line, and square the top of it to make highly-visible posts. Corner posts got metal tags nailed on them. Non-corner posts (identification posts) just had the claim name and post number written on two faces of the squared post with a marker. Of course, I rarely had to chop down anything more challenging than a six-inch spruce or pine to make a claim post. I liked to carry a Hudson Bay pattern axe for that work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 10:20 PM (4m+Gx)

244 Can you eat the eggs after using the shaving cream method?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 10:19 PM (RZ8pf)

................

Yes you can. I think you are suppose to roll them with shaving cream and dye, let them sit for a bit and they are good to go. If nervous you can rinse them.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (wqh09)

245 I know. Robin Williams' son decides that having watched dad dress up as a woman that the son really wants to have a sex change operation, and Robin will help him make the transition to womans clothing. Sorry to sound so cynical but how could it not have a whole bunch of politically correct stuff that is just not funny except in a campy kind of way.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (XyM/Y)

246 Count your blessings, sweet Molly! Sounds like it's all good.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (8lmkt)

247 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:17 PM (GDulk)

Look for a widget that lets the buyer enter their zip code and it returns a shipping price.

I see it on other sites and I would imagine they should be available as a drop in to the shopping cart web page. Check with your hosting people they may have small business stuff for you to use. For a price of course.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (JS0vr)

248 Ace? Ace????? Doing an ONT?!?!?


*peeks in*

Is it safe?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (GEICT)

249 I'm not sure what reasonable shipping out of country is though so haven't activated that part.
Maybe do actual cost for the foreign shipping instead of a rough percentage? I've had that done for me for some hobby materials although that was through PayPal and not a credit card. Some places used a rough percentage for the initial bill and then refunded the unused amount to my account.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 10:22 PM (hn5v5)

250 Is it safe?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (GEICT)

not anymore

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:22 PM (8lmkt)

251 Ace? Ace????? Doing an ONT?!?!?


*peeks in*

Is it safe

***

Yep.

It looks like a hit and run.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:22 PM (DmNpO)

252 Another thing I'm looking for is: what *style* would you all call what I make? Etsy gives a huge list when I put each one up and I've generally been choosing "traditional" for lack of anything specific.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:23 PM (GDulk)

253 Is it safe?

Posted by: BCochran
--------------------------

Just keep your hands on the wheel, and your eyes on the road.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 10:23 PM (aDwsi)

254 Whew.


So, who did we piss off today Morons?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:23 PM (GEICT)

255 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (GEICT)

Hey BC.

Everything is fine no problems, yet.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:23 PM (HVff2)

256 And a good evening to you too, Peaches.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:24 PM (GEICT)

257 Robin Williams has become a caricature.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:24 PM (JS0vr)

258 Is it safe?


No.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at April 18, 2014 10:24 PM (Ua6T/)

259 The crazy ones is a good show though.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 10:25 PM (RZ8pf)

260 Is it safe?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (GEICT)

This world is neither simple nor safe.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 10:25 PM (WlWt+)

261 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (JS0vr)

Thanks. I'll do that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 10:25 PM (GDulk)

262
254 Is it safe?
.............

Depends on what your definition of "is" is. Ah hell at this point what difference does it really make?

Posted by: Grammy and Pappy Clinton at April 18, 2014 10:25 PM (wqh09)

263 so, am i reading this all wrong, or are you guys saying i should have another beer?

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:26 PM (8lmkt)

264 258 Robin Williams has become a caricature.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:24 PM (JS0vr)

I never found him all that funny as a comedian either.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 10:27 PM (WlWt+)

265 264 so, am i reading this all wrong, or are you guys saying i should have another beer?
Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:26 PM (8lmkt)

Go for it!

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 10:27 PM (WlWt+)

266 Went shooting at the NRA HQ range today. Very nice facility (not unexpected.) They had .22LR, $12 for 100. Plenty of it. I was kind of expecting them to have "range" prices like other ranges for their ammo - but they're the NRA. They don't need to gouge you for a few bucks at the range, they got plenty of money. They don't even charge a premium for range time. Non-members are $20/hour - just like any other range around here. Members pay $15. I have been contemplating joining again, six trips to the range pays for itself.

You can shoot just about anything there. It says rifles up to .50BMG - I think that is inclusive.

I will definitely be going back.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 10:28 PM (4+AaH)

267 Depends on what your definition of "is" is. Ah hell at this point what difference does it really make?
Posted by: Grammy and Pappy Clinton at April 18, 2014 10:25 PM (wqh09)

Witty award

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:28 PM (HVff2)

268 Alton - Any experience designing ignition switches? Give us a call...
Posted by: GM at April 18, 2014 10:19 PM


Nope, the bulk of my career has been doing the CPS (StoopidBusiness™ industry term: Cheap Plastic Shit) on the interiors on the cars that many of you drive.

That, and carbon fiber...

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 10:28 PM (KCxzN)

269 and we have a quorum! slainte!

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:28 PM (8lmkt)

270 I thought that he was good in "Mrs. Doubtfire" but just leave it alone, Robin.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2014 10:28 PM (XyM/Y)

271 Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 10:28 PM (4+AaH)


Very nice.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:29 PM (GEICT)

272 I never found him all that funny as a comedian either.

Posted by: Thrawn
-----------------

I've thought the guy was an ass from the beginning. Every time I've seen him he has only reinforced that impression.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 10:29 PM (aDwsi)

273 Wait, what? There's no link for the "Pet Fart"?

I demand a refund

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 10:29 PM (KCxzN)

274 Nope, the bulk of my career has been doing the CPS (StoopidBusiness™ industry term: Cheap Plastic Shit) on the interiors on the cars that many of you drive.
--------------------

Have you seen the switches they make these days? Formed wire, molded in plastic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 10:31 PM (aDwsi)

275 When did saws come into general use? Wasn't that more of a 19th-century thing? I ask because I was reading an early 20th-century history of western Massachusetts and one of the Real Old Guys they interviewed mentioned that when he was a wee lad before the Civil War they didn't have saws.

And hell, even cutting wood with saws is still pretty damned impressive when you realize a house must have gone through something like 400 lbs of firewood PER DAY, even in summertime. That means some poor bastard had to cut down and saw up about 80 tons of wood per year for each household.

By comparison, I get plenty of exercise cutting (with a chainsaw) and splitting (with a maul) about 2 tons, total, per year.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 10:31 PM (xaTUa)

276 I saw Leech The Sperm open for Toad The Wet Sprocket at The Pavilion in '92.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 18, 2014 10:31 PM (1CroS)

277 273 I never found him all that funny as a comedian either.

Posted by: Thrawn
-----------------

I've thought the guy was an ass from the beginning. Every time I've seen him he has only reinforced that impression.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 10:29 PM (aDwsi)

More & Mindy was funny. The world according to Garp was
weird. Mrs. Doubt fire ok. Other than that I could care less

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:31 PM (HVff2)

278 Bill and Hillary Clinton. Prime examples of everything that's gone wrong with the country.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:31 PM (JS0vr)

279 Ace? Ace????? Doing an ONT?!?!?

*peeks in*

Is it safe?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:21 PM (GEICT)


Well…

Posted by: Emergency ONT Sloth at April 18, 2014 10:31 PM (AymDN)

280 Red planet rising in the east right now around these
parts. Just about the only "star" in the sky and red. That means its
beer run time.

Posted by: People Corporation
............
Leinie's Red!

Yeah.. I know I'm late to the party.. been cooking dinner and cleaning up cuz the wife is so busy with other crap..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 18, 2014 10:32 PM (b/lt+)

281 Rise of the Guardians on now.

Worth a viewing?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:32 PM (DmNpO)

282 'sup mouth breathers?! Have I said how badly I'm ready to leave Great Lakes, IL...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 18, 2014 10:32 PM (cyxit)

283 The crazy ones is a good show though.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 10:25 PM (RZ8pf)


Yeah, the crazy ones are always entertaining, just don't go to sleep...


oh, are we talking about an actual show?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:32 PM (DA9Jf)

284 Sometimes unplanned events are the best. After an exhausting month I was driving a few hours away tonight after work to spend the weekend with friends and just got too damn sleepy to stay on the road safe. So I found an exit with a motel and swung by the gas station and picked up a bottle of Glenfiddich 12 year old single malt - yes you can buy a single malt at gas stations around here, and now I'm hanging out in the motel room with my feet up drinking single malt all alone nobody to bitch at me no god damn hospital call me back in the middle of the night on my night off just listening to tunes and reading the ONT.

Initiate decompression in 3, 2, 1...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:33 PM (x4N9x)

285 More & Mindy was funny. The world according to Garp was
weird. Mrs. Doubt fire ok. Other than that I could care less
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:31 PM (HVff2)

Insomnia was a good movie with Robin Williams. But other than that, nada IMHO.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 10:34 PM (WlWt+)

286 Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:26 PM (8lmkt)

There's never a reason to not have another beer or a drink.

Well, unless you're driving.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:34 PM (JS0vr)

287 Witty award

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:28 PM (HVff2

2 socks in one.....Freaking global warming makes one think when one posts.

Posted by: Grammy and Pappy Clinton at April 18, 2014 10:34 PM (wqh09)

288 282 Rise of the Guardians on now.

Worth a viewing?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:32 PM (DmNpO)



It's pretty decent. My kids like it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 18, 2014 10:35 PM (GEICT)

289 Sometimes unplanned events are the best. After an exhausting month I was driving a few hours away tonight after work to spend the weekend with friends and just got too damn sleepy to stay on the road safe. So I found an exit with a motel and swung by the gas station and picked up a bottle of Glenfiddich 12 year old single malt - yes you can buy a single malt at gas stations around here, and now I'm hanging out in the motel room with my feet up drinking single malt all alone nobody to bitch at me no god damn hospital call me back in the middle of the night on my night off just listening to tunes and reading the ONT.

Initiate decompression in 3, 2, 1...

***

You MUST get away from it all now and then, especially from a job as intense as yours. But, of course, you know that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:35 PM (DmNpO)

290 I ask because I was reading an early 20th-century history of western Massachusetts and one of the Real Old Guys they interviewed mentioned that when he was a wee lad before the Civil War they didn't have saws.

A quick perusal of wiki counts flint rocks as saws, but apparently the first saw blades as we would recognize them were in roman times. Interesting though, never thought about that till now.

Posted by: booger at April 18, 2014 10:35 PM (xRDdL)

291 Sometimes unplanned events are the best. After an exhausting month I was driving a few hours away tonight after work to spend the weekend with friends and just got too damn sleepy to stay on the road safe. So I found an exit with a motel and swung by the gas station and picked up a bottle of Glenfiddich 12 year old single malt - yes you can buy a single malt at gas stations around here, and now I'm hanging out in the motel room with my feet up drinking single malt all alone nobody to bitch at me no god damn hospital call me back in the middle of the night on my night off just listening to tunes and reading the ONT.

Initiate decompression in 3, 2, 1...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:33 PM (x4N9x)
..............


Sounds like heaven to me.

Posted by: Grammy and Pappy Clinton at April 18, 2014 10:35 PM (wqh09)

292 There's never a reason to not have another beer or a drink.

Well, unless you're driving.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:34 PM (JS0vr)


A little mood music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8JjHfFHctM

Posted by: The Vehicular Hat at April 18, 2014 10:36 PM (AymDN)

293 sup mouth breathers?! Have I said how badly I'm ready to leave Great Lakes, IL...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 18, 2014 10:32 PM (cyxit)


I was only there once, for a couple of months in 85, and I sure was ready to leave after that...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:36 PM (DA9Jf)

294 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 18, 2014 10:32 PM (cyxit)

Where the wind comes shrieking off the Lake?

And the barracks walls are 1" thick?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:36 PM (JS0vr)

295 Went shooting at the NRA HQ range today. Very nice facility (not unexpected.) They had .22LR, $12 for 100. Plenty of it. I was kind of expecting them to have "range" prices like other ranges for their ammo - but they're the NRA. They don't need to gouge you for a few bucks at the range, they got plenty of money. They don't even charge a premium for range time. Non-members are $20/hour - just like any other range around here. Members pay $15. I have been contemplating joining again, six trips to the range pays for itself.

You can shoot just about anything there. It says rifles up to .50BMG - I think that is inclusive.

I will definitely be going back.
Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 10:28 PM


Emphasis mine. Twenty four months ago, one could get fifty rounds of .22lr at you local Walmart for about $1. (Thunderbolts)

$12 for 100 rounds?

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 10:36 PM (KCxzN)

296 Speaking of dying eggs, my daughter asked me if she dyed a brown with red, would it look like my hair? We'll find out tomorrow.

Posted by: no good deed at April 18, 2014 10:36 PM (ILBCY)

297 Peaches you sure know how to drive men mad with desire! Any woman that can use the phrase 'wicked beer piss' correctly in a sentence is obviously a keeper! Have another one!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (x4N9x)

298 BTW, I got approval from the boss to do a Saturday movie watchalong post.

I'll put up details tomorrow for next week. If the first one goes well we can make it a semi-regular event.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (DmNpO)

299 Or this: http://tinyurl.com/cspcst (youtube)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (JS0vr)

300 Yikes............I just did what I swore I would never do. Sock off.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (wqh09)

301 276
When did saws come into general use? Wasn't that more of a 19th-century
thing? I ask because I was reading an early 20th-century history of
western Massachusetts and one of the Real Old Guys they interviewed
mentioned that when he was a wee lad before the Civil War they didn't
have saws.



And hell, even cutting wood with saws is still pretty damned
impressive when you realize a house must have gone through something
like 400 lbs of firewood PER DAY, even in summertime. That means some
poor bastard had to cut down and saw up about 80 tons of wood per year
for each household.



By comparison, I get plenty of exercise cutting (with a chainsaw) and splitting (with a maul) about 2 tons, total, per year.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 10:31 PM (xaTUa)
Hide posts from (xaTUa)


They've been around for a while....here's a picture of a guy using one around 1500 AD -- http://tinyurl.com/pv7d895 -- looks reasonably modern.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (T1005)

302 Initiate decompression in 3, 2, 1...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:33 PM (x4N9x)


Good for you. Turn the ringer off on the phone and take a breather.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (DA9Jf)

303 That Finnish 'ax' looked sexy in the vid splitting straight grained pussy european birch but I'd like to see it working on a chunk of 18" oak with a big knot about 6" inches from where the ax impacts .I reckon our finnish woodcutter would be hurling curses like the rest of us wood cutting proles .
The whole thing was like the Billy Mayes version of a Ronco product .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (whqez)

304 "You can dissolve nails with concentrated citric acid; it's pretty potent stuff."

The service departments of Mercedes-Benz dealerships will apply a mysterious white powder to flush the cooling systems of customers' cars. There's a part number for the powder and all that. Meticulous German instructions for how much water to use to dilute the stuff.

It's citric acid, with a ten million percent markup.

It works. Well. Just not worth what is charged.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 10:38 PM (noWW6)

305
I am proud of Chelsia for being so open abou her pregnancy, so proud!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 18, 2014 10:39 PM (JmsLl)

306 Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (x4N9x)



I was just thinking, I don't know why, that it would be so cool to just go out and shoot up the neighborhood. Lucky for me, I'm already in my jammies and far too lazy. But, dang, I really really hate LA.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:40 PM (8lmkt)

307 Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:33 PM (x4N9x)
You & the morons have a good nite, better weekend. Be well horde. Good nite

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 10:40 PM (HVff2)

308 twenty more minutes...gawd i'm ready to set myself on fire with a blowtorch...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:41 PM (DA9Jf)

309 'Night, Mis . . . xoxo and Happy Easter!

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:41 PM (8lmkt)

310 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (DmNpO)

You mean like a Mystery Science Theater 3000?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 10:41 PM (JS0vr)

311 If anyone hasn't watched the video on wood splitting, you should. Because it gives you a healthy respect for tires. And you should respect tires. They are amazing engineering feats, and they don't even need batteries.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 10:42 PM (8MjqI)

312 ok, that was interesting...some girl with bright pink hair just licked the guy sitting next to her on his cheek...hilarity ensued (especially when they saw me snickering).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:42 PM (DA9Jf)

313 Insomnia was a good movie with Robin Williams.


He plays creepy disturbingly well.

Posted by: fluffy at April 18, 2014 10:42 PM (Ua6T/)

314
Dear Peeshis........


I'm not as think as you drunk I am. Aggshually, I am sotally tober. Oh, hell. Take me drunk, I think I'm home again!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2014 10:43 PM (vvk2F)

315 Peaches are you doing it deliberately to drive us nuts? You better stop talking about fantasies like that or I'm going to fly out to LA and do horrible terrible things to you that you'll love...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:43 PM (x4N9x)

316 298 Peaches you sure know how to drive men mad with desire! Any woman that can use the phrase 'wicked beer piss' correctly in a sentence is obviously a keeper! Have another one!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:37 PM (x4N9x)

No doubt!!! I read something the other day about a "perhaps" moron meetup in Vegas sometime in July. Should that come to fruition would you go?

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:43 PM (wqh09)

317 Personally I prefer a good battle axe to that new one

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 18, 2014 10:44 PM (Rc54P)

318 A Friday Night Open Thread and an Overnight Open Thread?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 10:44 PM (bitz6)

319 You mean like a Mystery Science Theater 3000?

****

I hadn't thought of it that way but, yeah, pretty much.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 10:45 PM (DmNpO)

320 Nite all .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 18, 2014 10:45 PM (whqez)

321 Evenin' everyone

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 10:45 PM (0AKks)

322 He plays creepy disturbingly well.

Oh yeah, he was totally creepy in One Hour Photo.

Posted by: no good deed at April 18, 2014 10:46 PM (ILBCY)

323 Vegas would be one hell of a road trip...


Looks like I'll be heading Midwestern-ward again next month, my niece is graduating from HS and her sister who is in college in Winchester VA is splitting the cost of gas with me to drive back for it. We're taking the 'vert, of course.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:46 PM (DA9Jf)

324 Intermarriage cooking is so interesting. It's rare when you marry someone with similar capabilities and/or tastes. My MIL thinks she's an awesome cook, and so did my husband, until we got married. Eyes were opened, let's just say. My daughter and SIL just got back from a visit with his parents, at which they had a BBQ and were served ribs cooked for ten minutes, and microwaved asparagus. Yum.

Posted by: Kalneva at April 18, 2014 10:46 PM (3pQOs)

325 I thought Robin Williams was funny waaaayyyy back in the 70's when he was imitating Elmer Fudd and sperm, only movie of his i remember liking is Moscow on the Hudson though.

Posted by: booger at April 18, 2014 10:46 PM (xRDdL)

326 Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2014 10:43 PM (vvk2F)

Ouch, Jim . . . despite my crazy talk, I am never that drunk. Really, it's been decades. So, hey, you got any weed?

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:46 PM (8lmkt)

327 Lord, I do love Vegas. There is so much there to do that is so cool and fun and not necessarily expensive and certainly not touristy. Vegas baby! Let's all go to Vegas...

July would be perfect for me. Birthday month.

Craps is my game. Any other shooters out there?

You know if we had enough morons, we can get our own hospitality suite for a three day weekend. They're not that expensive for a group. Holy s*** would that be awesome!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:48 PM (x4N9x)

328 Ribs cooked for 10 min?


Beef ribs, I hope?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:48 PM (DA9Jf)

329 Vegas would be one hell of a road trip...


Looks like I'll be heading Midwestern-ward again next month, my niece is graduating from HS and her sister who is in college in Winchester VA is splitting the cost of gas with me to drive back for it. We're taking the 'vert, of course.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:46 PM (DA9Jf)
..........

What is Midwestern and where are you starting from?

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:49 PM (wqh09)

330 Vegas baby! Let's all go to Vegas...

Yeah, I was supposed to be there tonight. Thanks to a nasty virus I didn't make it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 10:49 PM (0AKks)

331 What is Midwestern and where are you starting from?

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:49 PM (wqh09)


Clarinda, in the SW corner of Iowa, from a starting location of Raleigh NC by way of Winchester VA.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:50 PM (DA9Jf)

332 A few days after Ishtar all of the Ishtar Candy is on clearance.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 10:51 PM (bitz6)

333 I really liked "The World According to Garp", but I'm a Jon Irving fanatic so... Quirky, for sure. Probably wouldn't like them now, that I'm aged. Who knows. Maybe I'll try to read some of them again. I know that his books don't translate well onto film.

Posted by: Kalneva at April 18, 2014 10:51 PM (3pQOs)

334 although I think my niece, who lives with her dad, is graduating from some little school in NW MO

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:51 PM (DA9Jf)

335 328 Lord, I do love Vegas. There is so much there to do that is so cool and fun and not necessarily expensive and certainly not touristy. Vegas baby! Let's all go to Vegas...

July would be perfect for me. Birthday month.

Craps is my game. Any other shooters out there?

You know if we had enough morons, we can get our own hospitality suite for a three day weekend. They're not that expensive for a group. Holy s*** would that be awesome!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:48 PM (x4N9x)

............

I'm in. Been there over 50 times. I love it. Blackjack is my thing but have just started playing craps. Have rooms booked already for July 9-13 but I think I saw them talking about 16-22 on here(or something like that).

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:51 PM (wqh09)

336 My daughter and SIL just got back from a visit with his parents, at which they had a BBQ and were served ribs cooked for ten minutes, and microwaved asparagus. Yum.
Posted by: Kalneva at April 18, 2014 10:46 PM (3pQOs)


my beautiful bride is from the part of the Midwest where it is exotic when you put parsly on the plate

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 10:52 PM (7IpfG)

337 Clarinda, in the SW corner of Iowa, from a starting location of Raleigh NC by way of Winchester VA.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:50 PM (DA9Jf)

I thought you weren't allowed in Iowa anymore, you know, since the *unfortunate incident* . . . or was that some other flyover state? I get 'em all mixed up in my mind sometimes.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:52 PM (8lmkt)

338 I liked Reno. I played Craps for 8 or 9 hours straight.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 10:52 PM (bitz6)

339 GGE I am based 1 hour north of Omaha! Have your people talk to my people and we'll do lunch!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:52 PM (x4N9x)

340 Shiner Bock pint drafts are good and make the front of your face numb. This research just in from tonight. That is all.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 18, 2014 10:53 PM (Gth7i)

341 *NINE!*

...or nowhere near.

Baseball needs to readjust some of these rules, because REPLAY SUCKS. Always has, always will.

..."We want to get it riiii-iiiight."

Screw You, Whiner! Get your technology out of my National Past-Time! This ain't chocolate and peanut-butter, you know-nothing, fingerprints-on-my-finish, low-life, asinine, bunch of overlords and meddling, tweaking SHITSTAINS!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 10:53 PM (lq3Ak)

342 Clarinda, in the SW corner of Iowa, from a starting location of Raleigh NC by way of Winchester VA.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:50 PM (DA9Jf)
............


Whoa that's a bit of a drive!! That's about 3 hours from me.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:53 PM (wqh09)

343 Slap!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:53 PM (8lmkt)

344 I thought you weren't allowed in Iowa anymore, you
know, since the *unfortunate incident* . . . or was that some other
flyover state? I get 'em all mixed up in my mind sometimes.


Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:52 PM (8lmkt)


Surely they've forgotten by now...besides, the double-secret probation was only for a year.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:54 PM (DA9Jf)

345 Peaches!!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 10:54 PM (lq3Ak)

346 Why do the pointy little heads want you to eat fruit? Fructose gets converted into fat more easily than glucose.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 10:54 PM (bitz6)

347 I hate fruit.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:55 PM (8lmkt)

348 I really love your Peaches want to shake your tree.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 18, 2014 10:55 PM (jucos)

349 "I liked Reno. I played Craps for 8 or 9 hours straight."
Posted by: Boss Moss

...Just to see the die?

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 10:55 PM (lq3Ak)

350 When I refresh, I sure want to bop that fucking rat on the head with a shovel.

guess, I'm old school

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 10:56 PM (7IpfG)

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 10:56 PM (lq3Ak)

352 340 GGE I am based 1 hour north of Omaha! Have your people talk to my people and we'll do lunch!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:52 PM (x4N9x

.............


Whoa.............Do you live in Sloan? I am 2 hours north of Omaha and I think that's about halfway

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:56 PM (wqh09)

353 I love blackjack, but will crawl into my own little video poker world if stupidity is abundant, which is always. You can avoid some stupidity by playing > $25, but that is a bit rich for my conservative blood. Plus hubby might come over and ruin it.

Posted by: Kalneva at April 18, 2014 10:56 PM (3pQOs)

354


stop the italics...

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 10:56 PM (7IpfG)

355 ok good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at April 18, 2014 10:57 PM (9GG/0)

356 When I refresh, I sure want to bop that fucking rat on the head with a shovel.

You are evil. And not in a good way. And if this comes out in italics, you're goin' straight into the barrel. Where you belong.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:57 PM (8lmkt)

357 Emphasis mine. Twenty four months ago, one could get fifty rounds of .22lr at you local Walmart for about $1. (Thunderbolts)

$12 for 100 rounds?

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 10:36 PM (KCxzN)


Well, since I paid ten bucks for a box of 50 Bla*ers (hah forgot that word was banned!) at the gun shop out in Leesburg, and its going for 13 cents a round and UP on arms list....

My Walmart doesn't even have a spot on the shelf for .22LR. The others I went to had pricetags below empty shelves.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 10:57 PM (4+AaH)

358 GGE I am based 1 hour north of Omaha! Have your people talk to my people and we'll do lunch!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:52 PM (x4N9x)


Hellz yeah! Mom and Dad grew up in small towns along the I-80 corridor, like the song says, east of Omaha (Dad's hometown is just north of the Beebeetown ramp, in fact).


Whoa that's a bit of a drive!! That's about 3 hours from me.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 10:53 PM (wqh09)


At the beginning, the end, or somewhere along the way? Probably going I-81 to 64 to 70, then north from KCMO on Hiway 71.

I'll have to look up the answer later, skating rink hell is closing and they are going to let me out now. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 10:57 PM (DA9Jf)

359 I only play Black Jack on cheapo day.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 10:57 PM (bitz6)

360 ...and there I go. In baseball terms?

-Blown Save

I don't want to be in the barrel tonight, damnit.

*grabs squeegee and shotgun*

*dons haz-mat suit*

*lowers goggles*

FUCK!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 10:58 PM (lq3Ak)

361 What kid wouldn't love to find an Easter basket stuffed with plastic eggs, inside of which are dried fruits??!!

We would!

Posted by: Red Diaper Babies at April 18, 2014 10:58 PM (Dwehj)

362 stop the italics...

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 10:56 PM (7IpfG)


ಠ_ಠ

Posted by: Silvio Berlusconi at April 18, 2014 10:58 PM (AymDN)

363 Molly, oakland nebraska, Holy snot, we are neighbors! I wonder how many more morons live on here in the middle of nowhere?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:58 PM (x4N9x)

364 It's OK Slapweasel, happens to everyone sooner or later.

Now get in mah belly!

Posted by: The Barrel at April 18, 2014 10:59 PM (0AKks)

365
sup mouth breathers?! Have I said how badly I'm ready to leave Great Lakes, IL...



Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
............
You gotta be shittin' me.. today was gorgeous for Chicago! Out here in the west burbs, it was paradise.. 'cept maybe up at Great Lakes it coulda been a bit chillier and windier.. but hey.. that's what the lakes do!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 18, 2014 10:59 PM (b/lt+)

366 364: Hortonville Wi. Try finding that on a map. Good luck!

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 18, 2014 11:00 PM (Q8vlx)

367 I haven't done that shampoo in the eye thing in years. It burns.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:01 PM (bitz6)

368 350 "I liked Reno. I played Craps for 8 or 9 hours straight."
Posted by: Boss Moss
..............


Piker.........My all time best was way back when when I literally had no money. Sat down at a blackjack table at 11 in the morning with 40 bucks. Put it out and started drinking. I drank the whole time and left the table at 3 am the next day. Never reached in my purse, played on that 40 bucks the whole time. My husband went to like 2 shows and the hoover dam. Came back pissed as could be. I cashed out for like 200 dollars. I think I did the math and it came it out to be less than minimum wage per hour.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 11:01 PM (wqh09)

369 Now get in mah belly!

Posted by: The Barrel at April 18, 2014 10:59 PM (0AKks)

No. You cannot have Slap. Not now, not ever. Don't trifle with me on this one, Barrel, you can't win.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:01 PM (8lmkt)

370 Evening y'all!

Posted by: tbodie at April 18, 2014 11:02 PM (9Zci/)

371 46
But you'd still hit it, right?
Posted by: Sean Bannion

She's Canadian. Pretty sure they've got that penis-like vagina thing mentioned above.

So -- let's put her down as a "maybe".
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 09:23 PM (kdS6q)
---
I don't presume to speak for all Canadian woman but I assure you all of the Canadian lady bits I've seen are just like your American lady bits.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 11:02 PM (N/cFh)

372 On the range trip, took the brand new Henry Survival Rifle. I had forgotten just how light that thing was. It was real easy to put on target.

Very first round the spent casing got munched - not sure what happened but it bounced back in from the ejection port and made it unhappy. I didn't see it so ejected a couple of rounds while trying to clear it, then I saw it in there and dumped it out. After that, it went bang every time.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:02 PM (4+AaH)

373 Not good:

Mumps Outbreak Reported at Hoboken College Campus

The students at the Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken were 18 to 21 years old and fully vaccinated against mumps

http://tinyurl.com/mawvhms

Posted by: The MMR Hat at April 18, 2014 11:02 PM (AymDN)

374 It is penance, Peaches. I got the suit and the shotgun. I'll taker my turn with the scrub-brush just like everyone else... lol

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:02 PM (lq3Ak)

375 Posted by: chemjeff at April 18, 2014 10:57 PM (9GG/0)

Night Chemjeff.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 11:03 PM (GDulk)

376 I was winning on some idiot black jack bet that involved royalty. I think the dealer was cheating for me for tips.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:03 PM (bitz6)

377 You are evil. And not in a good way. And if this comes out in italics, you're goin' straight into the barrel. Where you belong.
Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 10:57 PM (8lmkt)


when did rodent killin get to be bad?

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:03 PM (7IpfG)

378 Slap How you doin?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 18, 2014 11:04 PM (Q8vlx)

379 Molly, oakland nebraska, Holy snot, we are neighbors! I wonder how many more morons live on here in the middle of nowhere?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 10:58 PM (x4N9x
...............


Not many I am afraid.... I googled and we are 90 miles apart. I have always whined that there are no meetups in my part....mostly because I didn't think there was anyone else around here.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 11:04 PM (wqh09)

380 >>> I don't presume to speak for all Canadian woman but I assure you all of the Canadian lady bits I've seen are just like your American lady bits.

They have teeth?

Posted by: fluffy at April 18, 2014 11:04 PM (Ua6T/)

381 Well, goodnight, all. I'm the only mammal in the house who isn't snoring right now.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 18, 2014 11:04 PM (xaTUa)

382 In could have avoided that about six beers ago, but alas... *hic*

...scrub, scrub, scrub the barrel.

-You People are sick with what gets thrown/expelled/secreted in this damn thing. Dear Lord... I know that's not a Twinkie.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:05 PM (lq3Ak)

383 This Henry Survival Rifle folds up into its but?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:05 PM (bitz6)

384 Hat, yeah, the fact that they had been vaccinated and got it anyway is firmly in the "not good" column.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:05 PM (8lmkt)

385 "Slap How you doin?"
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo

Damn good, sir! *echoes from Teh Barrel*

Pops decided on Roku and was happy about the NHRA races. Thanks!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:07 PM (lq3Ak)

386 Isn't mumps closely related to an std?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:07 PM (bitz6)

387 when did rodent killin get to be bad?

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:03 PM (7IpfG)

when they have wittle stuffed animals to snuggle them to sleep. srsly, you have to ask? pet rats are actually quite intelligent and lovely. nothing like, say, a Brooklyn or Detroit street rat.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:07 PM (8lmkt)

388 Oh man, who knew peaches had woman wood for slap weasel?

Omaha Council Bluffs need up for morons in the area? Could go down to the Old Market or could stay at one of the casinos in Council Bluffs. Saturday night in either place would be rocking.

When you have the chance look up Thievery Corporation on youtube or one of the music places. They're only famous tune was Lebanese Blonde, which is exactly about what you think it is about. But its excellent feet up drinking music and what I have on right now.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 11:07 PM (x4N9x)

389 Vegas? Just deposit $50 into Betonline and its like being in Vegas.

Posted by: Up With People at April 18, 2014 11:08 PM (pf+hU)

390 Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:05 PM (8lmkt)

People my age and younger have been so blessed to have no.freaking. clue. what a real epidemic actually looks like. I'm positive it can't last forever though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 11:08 PM (GDulk)

391 when they have wittle stuffed animals to snuggle them to sleep. srsly, you have to ask? pet rats are actually quite intelligent and lovely. nothing like, say, a Brooklyn or Detroit street rat politician.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:07 PM (8lmkt)

Posted by: The Rat's cute little hat at April 18, 2014 11:09 PM (AymDN)

392 Slap: that's great to hear. The only thing he will miss is the smell of nitro in the morning.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 18, 2014 11:09 PM (Q8vlx)

393 when they have wittle stuffed animals to snuggle them to sleep. srsly, you have to ask? pet rats are actually quite intelligent and lovely. nothing like, say, a Brooklyn or Detroit street rat.
Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:07 PM (8lmkt)


is this a test?

I've heard the same about Tarantulas, iguanas, pythons and half wolf dogs

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:10 PM (7IpfG)

394 This Granulated Garlic stuff is great.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:10 PM (bitz6)

395 Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:07 PM (8lmkt)

Found the back half of an 8 inch rat outside the bedroom window a couple of weeks ago. The cat had *completely* freaked out in the middle of the night. Must have been about whatever caught the rat.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 11:11 PM (GDulk)

396 I've had mumps my entire life.

Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at April 18, 2014 11:12 PM (Dwehj)

397 "The only thing he will miss is the smell of nitro in the morning."
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo

*Heh* He'll get his yearly fix at the "local" track, (three hour drive). He says it "feeds his bones"...lol. Thanks again, amigo!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:12 PM (lq3Ak)

398 Anytime man. Glad it worked out.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 18, 2014 11:13 PM (Q8vlx)

399 Found the back half of an 8 inch rat outside the bedroom window a couple of weeks ago.
.................


That's disgusting. Are rats common in your neighborhood? I have snakes, goghers and moles in my yard but have never seen a rat. I think I would flip.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 11:14 PM (wqh09)

400 Found the back half of an 8 inch rat outside the
bedroom window a couple of weeks ago. The cat had *completely* freaked
out in the middle of the night. Must have been about whatever caught the
rat.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 11:11 PM (GDulk)

Yikes, Polli!! That just gave me the actual shivers.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:14 PM (8lmkt)

401 "Blackjack is my thing but have just started playing craps."

My favored game in Vegas is rolling drunks in dark alleyways. Best odds going.

Who knew how portable and profitable those hobo hunting skills would turn out to be?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 11:14 PM (noWW6)

402 "This Granulated Garlic stuff is great."
Posted by: Boss Moss

Yup. It is excellent. *Pro Tip* Never confuse it with "Garlic Salt". That's one "whoops" that kills an entire evening's "cheffery".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:15 PM (lq3Ak)

403 397 I've had mumps my entire life.


Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at April 18, 2014 11:12 PM (Dwehj)

..............


I'm going with syphilis........the effects are showing in your advanced age.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 11:16 PM (wqh09)

404 381 >>> I don't presume to speak for all Canadian woman but I assure you all of the Canadian lady bits I've seen are just like your American lady bits.

They have teeth?
Posted by: fluffy at April 18, 2014 11:04 PM (Ua6T/)
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Has someone forgotten to have The Talk with fluffy?

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 11:16 PM (N/cFh)

405 People have always thought that I was packing acorns betwixt my cheeks but it's really just the mumps.

Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at April 18, 2014 11:16 PM (Dwehj)

406 This Henry Survival Rifle folds up into its but?

Not folds. Disassembles and tucks in.

Someone else is going to have to take a swing at the folds up into its butt slow pitch.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:17 PM (4+AaH)

407 Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 11:14 PM (wqh09)

Apparently. It's a nice but not ostentatious subdivision in a Houston suburb. I guess all the year-round fruit and such is very welcoming to rodents.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:14 PM (8lmkt)

I could tell the size because the tail was intact. Looked like it had been in *very* good condition (sleek, fluffyish fur) before getting chomped.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 11:18 PM (GDulk)

408 And....I'm back.

Caught up on GoT, now I'm gonna drink this wine like I'm mad at it. And I am, cause it tastes like grape juice that was left in a car in July for a few hours.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 18, 2014 11:18 PM (gJ81s)

409 Gingy, up close and personal photographs of Canadian vajayjay would go a long way towards proving your assertion. Just saying...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 11:18 PM (x4N9x)

410 "Blackjack is my thing but have just started playing craps."
----
I haven't played either. I hear that blackjack can be good. I suppose craps can be good but know less than nothing about it. My limited experience with gampling has been Standardbred Horse racing and Texas Holdem.

Posted by: Up With People at April 18, 2014 11:19 PM (pf+hU)

411 Releasing the Kraken.

Which is not a euphemism for anything. I just opened up a bottle of The Kraken.

Some of that in a Coke de Mexico - delish!

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:20 PM (4+AaH)

412 Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:17 PM (4+AaH)

There are some things that, (when teed-up?), are too easy.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:20 PM (lq3Ak)

413 Gingy, up close and personal photographs of Canadian vajayjay would go a long way towards proving your assertion. Just saying...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 11:18 PM (x4N9x)


totally, I need to release my 2nd shakra

Posted by: Albert Gore Jr. at April 18, 2014 11:21 PM (7IpfG)

414 410 Gingy, up close and personal photographs of Canadian vajayjay would go a long way towards proving your assertion. Just saying...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 11:18 PM (x4N9x)
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Ask Dave.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 11:21 PM (N/cFh)

415 407 It seems to just come in 22lr. The AR-5 had an over under with 22 and 410 though.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:21 PM (bitz6)

416 My latest woven scarf is almost finished but I don't think I'm going to manage the last few inches tonight. Darn it. Was supposed to have finished it a week ago.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 11:21 PM (GDulk)

417 I did ask Dave, he said ask you...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 11:23 PM (x4N9x)

418 "Ask Dave."
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth

Is his vagina Canadian?

...Just kidding, Dave. *phrasing*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:23 PM (lq3Ak)

419 Dude,
It is a tax I'm telling ya

Posted by: Justice Roberts at April 18, 2014 11:23 PM (7IpfG)

420 >>>but I don't think I'm going to manage the last few inches tonight.

If I had a silver dime for every time I've heard that....

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 18, 2014 11:23 PM (gJ81s)

421 Spank my face and call me Red, Ace did the ONT? I thought after the last time, Rules had been set. Of course, Ace and Rules, it's like TFG and Laws....

I wasn't going to check the damages until the morning, and yet, I weakened, peeked in, and... it seems... two hours in, the site is not going into total meltdown.

Talk about your disturbances in the force. Mid-April is just full of the unusual.

Posted by: mindful webworker meant to do this at April 18, 2014 11:23 PM (U13jb)

422 #LAPD inside #LATimes building, at First Spring streets have "detained a few people." Text threat. No weapons seen or fired. @KNX1070

Posted by: Baldy at April 18, 2014 11:24 PM (2bql3)

423 Chakra Khan, Chakra Khan.

Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at April 18, 2014 11:24 PM (Dwehj)

424 372
46

But you'd still hit it, right?

Posted by: Sean Bannion



She's Canadian. Pretty sure they've got that penis-like vagina thing mentioned above.



So -- let's put her down as a "maybe".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 09:23 PM (kdS6q)

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I don't presume to speak for all Canadian woman but I assure you all of the Canadian lady bits I've seen are just like your American lady bits.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 11:02 PM (N/cFh)
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Just colder and snowier.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 11:24 PM (T1005)

425 I haven't played either. I hear that blackjack can be good. I suppose craps can be good but know less than nothing about it. My limited experience with gampling has been Standardbred Horse racing and Texas Holdem.
............

I did the Texas holdem for a couple years. I was easy at first, sit down...act innocent and dumb. I won some money for awhile but got tired of the whole show. Plus one really mean guy from Oklahoma saw right through me and I decided I was done with that.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 11:25 PM (wqh09)

426 That axe thing is more of a splitter than an axe. You don't wan't your choppy bit flopping all around when chopping serious wood.

Universe pic, yeah, I got the same question. Is that an actual pic or some sort of graphic. If the Universe really looks like that, shit, what a fucking mess.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 18, 2014 11:25 PM (xx0aH)

427 Posted by: DC in Towson at April 18, 2014 11:23 PM (gJ81s)

Lol, I should have known better. More evidence I'm too tired to play anymore.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 11:26 PM (GDulk)

428 I'm now shipping (via USB port) the "AltonJackson Grilled Cheese Sammich". Three slices of the finest Walmart bread, two slices of the bestest Walmart American (Fcuk Yeah!) cheese, Parkey 'Squeeze Butter", toasted on a Geo.Foreman™ grille.

I'm still working out the details on drone delivery. I'll keep you posted.

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 11:26 PM (KCxzN)

429 388
when did rodent killin get to be bad?



Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:03 PM (7IpfG)

when
they have wittle stuffed animals to snuggle them to sleep. srsly, you
have to ask? pet rats are actually quite intelligent and lovely. nothing
like, say, a Brooklyn or Detroit street rat.


Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:07 PM (8lmkt)
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'Cept, of course, for that "constantly dribbling urine" thing that's built-in.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 11:27 PM (T1005)

430 @416 - you are reading wikipedia too fast. The AR-5 was .22 Hornet and bolt action, but was essentially the same layout. The AR-5 was meant to replace an aircrew survival weapon that was .22 Hornet and .410.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:27 PM (4+AaH)

431 "Universe pic, yeah, I got the same question. Is that an actual pic or some sort of graphic. If the Universe really looks like that, shit, what a fucking mess."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

I did what I could, man. You wanna redecorate?

Posted by: God at April 18, 2014 11:27 PM (lq3Ak)

432 I got the AR-5 confused with what it was supposed to replace. That Henry Survival Rifle is even fairly cheap.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:27 PM (bitz6)

433 Isn't the Henry survival rifle an AR7?

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:29 PM (7IpfG)

434 418 I did ask Dave, he said ask you...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 11:23 PM (x4N9x)
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Pretty sure he'd have mentioned it.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 11:29 PM (N/cFh)

435 434 Yes.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:29 PM (bitz6)

436
New York/New Jersey Moron Meet-up

Thursday, May 1st
6pm-9pm
West Village

All Morons and their handlers are welcome.

for additional info, email me at:

nynjmeet at optimum dot net

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2014 11:29 PM (QFxY5)

437 @433 yeah a little less than a 10/22 takedown and a more portable form factor, though the 10/22 is a better rifle so I guess that's a wash.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (4+AaH)

438 We used to get the usual candy in our baskets. Along with a book or two.

I miss my easter books

Posted by: Ranba Ral at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (G99e4)

439 "I just opened up a bottle of The Kraken."

I laughed when I first saw that in the rum section. Great label. But I figured it was cheesy costly gimmick booze and didn't buy any of it. If it's actually any good, I might have to go back and grab a bottle.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (noWW6)

440 Pterodaustro
O
Pterodaustro
O
Smaller than
a Terran House,
though...

[crumple crumple restart]

O, Pterodaustro,
Thy byll Monsteroso...

[needle dragged across record.. restart]

Pterodaustro,
Pterodaustro,
They're the
modern stoneage famileeee...

[Okay, now we're cooking..]

Posted by: mindful webworker meant to do this at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (U13jb)

441 "I did what I could, man. You wanna redecorate?"


Hehehe.

I got some ideas. Some ideas.


I would love a nice spiral galaxy to look at night. Shit like that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (xx0aH)

442 All this Vegas talk reminds me of something I read earlier. Charlie Daniels says Harry Reid should be in jail for impersonating an American. I agree.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (wqh09)

443 424 Chakra Khan, Chakra Khan.
Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at April 18, 2014 11:24 PM (Dwehj)


Khaaaaaaaan!

Posted by: Rear Admiral Kirk (original ST timeline) at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (WlWt+)

444 Oh, we always, always, got a book in our easter basket, along with the candy and dolls and toys and whatever. Once there were no more easter baskets, i really stopped caring about the whole deal. ham is not my thing. church either.

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:32 PM (8lmkt)

445 Gengy, he was going to but then he got an important call from the office about some sort of gunbroker order that he had placed for delivery there rather than at home. No idea what that is about that I'm sure he was going to tell you about it in the morning. In any case certainly a rational explanation for being distracted. Probably a present for you. I hope I have not let the cat out of the bag. In the meantime, about those pictures...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 11:33 PM (x4N9x)

446 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2014 11:29 PM (QFxY5)

I'm alergic to NJ, the only firearm I own that holds less than 10 rounds is my 1911 in .45ACP

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:34 PM (7IpfG)

447 Harry Reid isnot of this earth. He should be arrested for impersonating a human. He needs to be flushed twice.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 18, 2014 11:34 PM (Q8vlx)

448 I'm going to bed, it been fun. My contribution to Easter is giving the little one 30 dollars worth of candy and an electric tinkerbell toothbrush (with toothpaste). If I work it right she will get home with the toothbrush and "forget" her candy here.

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 11:35 PM (wqh09)

449 I mean, all we got was this fucking "Milky Way." How fucking lame is that? Give me something. A show in the night sky. A Sombrero. Something. Wow me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 18, 2014 11:35 PM (xx0aH)

450 446 Gengy, he was going to but then he got an important call from the office about some sort of gunbroker order that he had placed for delivery there rather than at home. No idea what that is about that I'm sure he was going to tell you about it in the morning. In any case certainly a rational explanation for being distracted. Probably a present for you. I hope I have not let the cat out of the bag. In the meantime, about those pictures...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18, 2014 11:33 PM (x4N9x)
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Your efforts are admirable... But he's in his office, which is adjacent to this room; and we got that delivery earlier today.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 11:35 PM (N/cFh)

451 Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 18,

hey bro

Posted by: Celtic Whiskey at April 18, 2014 11:35 PM (7IpfG)

452 Novak's Oscar night speech, which some observers characterized as
halting, was the result of a pill she had taken to relax and a three-day
fast, she said in her letter.

Posted by: Baldy at April 18, 2014 11:36 PM (2bql3)

453 I laughed when I first saw that in the rum section. Great label. But I figured it was cheesy costly gimmick booze and didn't buy any of it. If it's actually any good, I might have to go back and grab a bottle.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (noWW6)


Do. It.

Cheaper than the Captain - but what isn't these days - and tastier.

If you are in to the spiced rums, I recommend the following, in order:

Blackheart
Sailor Jerry
Captain Morgan
Captain Morgan Black
The Kraken
Captain Morgan 8


Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:37 PM (4+AaH)

454 "I mean, all we got was this fucking "Milky Way." How fucking lame is that? Give me something. A show in the night sky. A Sombrero. Something. Wow me."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

I have failed you. I was enjoying chocolate-covered caramel and nougat at the time.
...And dealing with Gabriel.
...which was a Whole Thing.

-The next day was a Sunday, so.....

Posted by: Your Chosen Diety at April 18, 2014 11:38 PM (lq3Ak)

455 I mean, me God, for my chosen plant and chosen beings............I am going to fucking blow their minds. Demonstrate my all knowing, all being power and stomp any question in their minds of who is the Boss around here.

Some stars. No flash. No sizzle. Let's people's minds wander.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 18, 2014 11:39 PM (xx0aH)

456 "If the Universe really looks like that, shit, what a fucking mess." Ricardo Kill

"Hey, it's a work in progress, okay? I'll clean up all the marble chips when I'm done."
-Michaelangelo to his landlady.

Posted by: mindful webworker a lert at April 18, 2014 11:40 PM (U13jb)

457 The Captain Morgan Preferred is way better than the regular stuff which is undrinkable.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:40 PM (bitz6)

458 I just realized today that the M16 (or variants) have been on active duty for 50 years now.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:40 PM (4+AaH)

459 And on that note...good night all.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 11:40 PM (AC0lD)

460 I just realized today that the M16 (or variants) have been on active duty for 50 years now.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:40 PM (4+AaH)


longest serving rifle in US history...

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:42 PM (998lb)

461 Was that 1943 on the M16 a patent year?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:42 PM (bitz6)

462 If I don't at least get a flat tire for that jumble of happy-horseshit, I may lose a little Faith.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:43 PM (lq3Ak)

463 Clean this fucking shit up. God dammit. You're renting for fuck's sake. What are you fucking thinking?

This shit is going on your bill if you don't fucking fix it.

Posted by: MIchaelangelo's Landlady at April 18, 2014 11:43 PM (xx0aH)

464 longest serving rifle in US history...

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:42 PM (998lb)


And yet the most hated. At least by the military.

And re your hash you should try Atkins.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:44 PM (4+AaH)

465 No security deposit for you.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:44 PM (bitz6)

466 And re your hash you should try Atkins.
Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:44 PM (4+AaH)


that is my Dead Lift...

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 11:46 PM (998lb)

467 Actually, Ace, it's not a swivel head design. It's an angular design that emphasizes a slightly off-set center of mass w.r.t. to the conventional, straight down point of impact approach. Theoretically, seems like a cool tool. I'd like to try one out myself. But it's obvious you've never really chopped wood before buddy.

Posted by: B at April 18, 2014 11:46 PM (yd0D/)

468 Not sure we have a quorum, but here goes: received and accepted a job offer today, I start on the 28th. And, I have applied contact paper to 18.3% of the surfaces that require such treatment in my new small (but tiny!) apartment.

So, I gots that goin' for me. Which is good.

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 11:47 PM (KCxzN)

469 So the M4 is just a shorter M16?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 11:47 PM (bitz6)

470 But it's obvious you've never really chopped wood before buddy.

Chopped? No.

Polished? Heh.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 11:47 PM (0AKks)

471 457 "If the Universe really looks like that, shit, what a fucking mess." Ricardo Kill

"Hey, it's a work in progress, okay? I'll clean up all the marble chips when I'm done."
-Michaelangelo to his landlady.
........


I laugh because this reminds me of my sister and I in the Sistine chapel a few years ago. We looked around and then up... She says " kinda neat huh?" I agreed. Took us a few minutes to see it then we bailed. As two simpletons we clearly didn't appreciate at the time what we were seeing.

Posted by: Molly K. at April 18, 2014 11:48 PM (/ts/w)

472
A type of insect has been discovered in which the female has the penis -- well, the "intromittent organ," the thing that gets stuck into the other organ.

It's not really a penis, of course. It's just something she sticks inside of the male to painfully leech the sperm out of him.







Oh, a Prehensile Pussy. Knew a stripper who had one of those.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 18, 2014 11:48 PM (AHzA7)

473 If you were really Michaelangelos's Landlady every word in your scribbling should end with a vowel sound. Like this:
Cleana thisa fuckinge shite upa. Gode Dammite. You'rea rentinga fora fuck'se sake. Whata are you thinkinga?
Thisa shite isa goinge ona youra billa ifa you don'ta fuckinga fixe ita.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 18, 2014 11:48 PM (jucos)

474 If you are in to the spiced rums, I recommend the following, in order:

Blackheart
Sailor Jerry
Captain Morgan
Captain Morgan Black
The Kraken
Captain Morgan 8


Shit I forgot, top of this list is:

Appleton Estates

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 11:49 PM (4+AaH)

475 Congrats on the job, Alton.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 11:50 PM (0AKks)

476 Alton Jackson, great news!

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 18, 2014 11:50 PM (N/cFh)

477 But it's obvious you've never really chopped wood before buddy. Chopped? No. Polished? Heh.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 11:47 PM (0AKks)
_____________
Sported? You bet!

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 18, 2014 11:50 PM (jucos)

478 M16......M14.........M1


For some strange and personal reason I still think of the Springfield as the nation's battle rifle. Not arguing or disagreeing at all.

Just stating a thought. I still think of the Springfield. Was it "Sergent York?"

Posted by: MIchaelangelo's Landlady at April 18, 2014 11:51 PM (xx0aH)

479 Congrats, Alton!
...and best wishes with that contact paper. There is "good sticky", but there is also "bad sticky". This seems like the latter.

*Raises Beer*

Here's to a running start, Sir!

*clink!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 18, 2014 11:51 PM (lq3Ak)

480 "Not sure we have a quorum, but here goes: received and accepted a job offer today, I start on the 28th."

Hey, fantastic news, Alton! Quick on the rebound.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 11:52 PM (noWW6)

481 Congrats Alton!

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 18, 2014 11:52 PM (jucos)

482 Gotta go. Good night, Gracies. Have fun. Or whatev.

*****

As we humble ourselves before the Almighty Pageant which we celebrate this weekend, I think Morons especially should recall the wedding host who stood up and made a speech about how great, and unusual, it was that they'd saved the better wine for last.

Let's face it, is there anything in religion quite like Mary weaseling Jesus into supplying some booze? At first he was all, what's that got to do with me? And then she started crying, and, well, you know, moms, tears, devoted Jewish son, next thing you know, there's wine. I can imagine he even surprised himself, because it seems like, after that one, he kept a cautious check on his superpowers, and some distancing from the family influence.

But the thing is, the important thing is, it was the good stuff!

Posted by: mindful webworker being dragged back to my cell at April 18, 2014 11:53 PM (U13jb)

483 Congrats, Alton. Jobs are a bitch. I have one but it drives me nuts and makes me wonder sometimes.

Posted by: MIchaelangelo's Landlady at April 18, 2014 11:53 PM (xx0aH)

484 469
Not sure we have a quorum, but here goes: received and accepted a job
offer today, I start on the 28th. And, I have applied contact paper to
18.3% of the surfaces that require such treatment in my new small (but
tiny!) apartment.



So, I gots that goin' for me. Which is good.

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 18, 2014 11:47 PM (KCxzN)
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Great news, AJ!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 11:54 PM (T1005)

485 Congrats Alton!

A good man is never down and out!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 11:54 PM (DmNpO)

486 "Not sure we have a quorum, but here goes: received and accepted a job offer today, I start on the 28th."


Awesome, AltonJackson, congrats!!! And, super smart to take another couple of weeks off, who knows when you will have that chance again. Yay, you!

Posted by: Peaches at April 18, 2014 11:55 PM (8lmkt)

487 Go eat a carrot you tea-bagger!

Have a Blessed Easter! :p

Posted by: Rock Cutter at April 18, 2014 11:57 PM (NIqXJ)

488 Oh, and, I did a huge rookie sock fail above. Screw me. I am a dumb SOB.


Congrats, Alton.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 18, 2014 11:59 PM (xx0aH)

489 Has anyone resolved the fucked-up Universe we see around us? Just wondering.


To now I gotta say fucking chemical mess. The shit happens. And voila.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 12:02 AM (xx0aH)

490 Wanna play cricket on the green

Ride my bike across the street

Cut myself and see my blood

Wanna come home all covered in mud

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 19, 2014 12:03 AM (AaZet)

491 Thanks, Horde

You people keep me sane

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 19, 2014 12:04 AM (KCxzN)

492 I still maintain that if you've never heard Vin Scully, you need to find a Los Angeles Dodgers broadcast. Preferably over the radio.

When he describes a ball field, you can smell the grass. You feel the gentle breeze, flowing from left field to right.

His voice pours over a broadcast like syrup, symmetrically flowing down a stack of pancakes. Oh. So. Gently.

He doesn't broadcast a game. He tells a little baseball story, and it's different every time.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 12:04 AM (lq3Ak)

493 "You people keep me sane."
Posted by: AltonJackson

We're alright, I guess...

*kicks dirt around*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 12:06 AM (lq3Ak)

494 AM radio is the only way to experience baseball. If you must, watch it on TV, but hear it on radio.

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 19, 2014 12:06 AM (KCxzN)

495 Happy Easter all you Moronettes & Morons!

THIS is what you put in an Easter basket:

[IMG]http://i58.tinypic.com/2wcjfxw.jpg[/IMG]

http://i58.tinypic.com/2wcjfxw.jpg

( not sure how this tiny pic stuff works, each link is the same photo)

Posted by: RondinelaMamma at April 19, 2014 12:07 AM (EJ/Tn)

496 Way to go Alton. All here are rooting for you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 19, 2014 12:08 AM (ojnk6)

497 492 Thanks, Horde

You people keep me sane
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 19, 2014 12:04 AM (KCxzN)
---
Yeah, we hardly suck at all.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 19, 2014 12:08 AM (N/cFh)

498 Wanna play cricket on the green

Ride my bike across the street

Cut myself and see my blood

Wanna come home all covered in mud


I get the impression you're trying to tell us something your mother doesn't want anyone to know.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 19, 2014 12:08 AM (0AKks)

499
Congrats, Alton!


Just so you know, Peaches is totally in her cups. Don't believe her if she tells you I'm drunk.


I'm not. It's just that I have too much blood in my alcohol stream.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2014 12:09 AM (vvk2F)

500 From the sidebar: "Whether it's the violin, chess, or basketball, it takes roughly 10,000 hours to become a master."



=====
Many construction trades have a 4 year apprenticeship. With overtime many people have 10K hours by the time they finish their apprenticeship. So, at 10K hours, they are a lower level journeyman with solid-to-excellent skills, but they still have plenty left to learn.



For an engineer/architect, there is a 4 year degree, followed by a 4 year pre-licensing period. Again, at 10K actual work hours that engineer/architect is now a lower level professional. They, too, can have solid-to-excellent skills, but they are rarely in the same class as a solid professional that has been licensed for 10 years.


So, for many pursuits, 10K is more like the first place a person achieves competence -- which is far from mastery.** And that includes putting the damn smart phone down and paying close attention to learning their craft. 10K hours may not make much impact at all on people who don't really try.





**Except for very rare uniquely gifted prodigies who apparently became a master just by being born.

Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 12:10 AM (PlzOe)

501 Good on ya, Alton!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 19, 2014 12:10 AM (o3MSL)

502 Sgt. York would have been carrying the US-built Enfield, not the 1903, and it's been passed around for years that he did his famous deeds with the 1911 pistol, not any rifle at all. Anna P will be all over this, but I think I have heard that more US troops in WWI used the Enfield than the Springfield. Both pretty damn good. Advantage of the Enfield was, it didn't require royalty payments to Germany.

To understand the modern and/or conservative mindset, read some samples of what was said about the Garand between the time it was introduced in trials and, well, we won the war. There was a far better rifle, you know, but political connections made the choice. The damned thing was never going to work right, it was practically an enemy plot. Only sissies need semi-autos anyway. It would never have the hitting force of a 1903, with half its energy bled off for the action. And so on. There were similar rumors on the plus side. It's just how the mind works, or, some days, doesn't.

Also, did you know that John Garand (also Gene Stoner, Leonardo and Michelangelo) was gay? Or was it just Canadian...I forget.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 12:10 AM (xq1UY)

503 "AM radio is the only way to experience baseball. If you must, watch it on TV, but hear it on radio."
Posted by: AltonJackson

*fist bump*

That's how I grew up. I got one bowl of chips and pretzels, while my brother and I split a sixteen-ounce bottle of Pepsi.

We turned on the radio and watched the TV. The TV was always delayed, so we got to hear the artist "paint it" before we saw it.

...theater of the mind was confirmed by the play on the Tee-Vee.

It was the only way to fall asleep when the games were on the West Coast.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 12:12 AM (lq3Ak)

504 Good evening all. I was in for a sweet GS-14 job, but got notice today that I was "eligible but not among the best qualified," which translates to, "thanks for trying, but we already knew who was getting that position before we advertised it." Still have a good shot at some upcoming -12 and -13 positions, though.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 19, 2014 12:13 AM (vn9w4)

505 440
I laughed when I first saw that in the rum section. Great label. But I figured it was cheesy costly gimmick booze and didn't buy any of it. If it's actually any good, I might have to go back and grab a bottle.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 11:31 PM (noWW6)


I notice that a lot of rum has glitzy labels, compared to most other kinds of booze. I wonder why that is. I tend to shy away from that, assuming that it has more to do with marketing than actual quality.

Does anybody have recommendations for good rum, regardless of label?

Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2014 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

506 Posted by: Country Singer at April 19, 2014 12:13 AM (vn9w4)

They must have found out that you post here every now & again!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 19, 2014 12:17 AM (o3MSL)

507 Evenin' all.

No fresh hell in the ONT right?

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:19 AM (QeH9j)

508 Sgt. York would have been carrying the US-built Enfield, not the 1903, and it's been passed around for years that he did his famous deeds with the 1911 pistol, not any rifle at all. Anna P will be all over this, but I think I have heard that more US troops in WWI used the Enfield than the Springfield. Both pretty damn good. Advantage of the Enfield was, it didn't require royalty payments to Germany.



Yep, that's true. The US had twice as many Enfields / 1917s on hand for WWI than Springfields. Records are sketchy but Sgt York probably did have an Enfield. (No windage adjustment on a 1917 though, part of why they aren't preferred by marksmen.)



However, for long service? Some of our troops in Gulf War 1 sent back home for their Springfields...

Posted by: Steck at April 19, 2014 12:19 AM (5i94q)

509 "Does anybody have recommendations for good rum, regardless of label?"
Posted by: rickl

I was never a fan of rum. I bought Bacardi 151 because I only used it in "Hairy Buffaloes". If you're having a big party, that's the way to go.

Otherwise, I'm just not a rum guy.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 12:19 AM (lq3Ak)

510 Does anybody have recommendations for good rum, regardless of label?

Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2014 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

Clear, spiced, dark?

Mixing or straight?

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:20 AM (QeH9j)

511
The original Garand chambering in, if I recall correctly, a .257 caliber, would have been magnificent.


Still, the .30-'06 version kicked ass on every battlefield.


Don't get me started on the Johnson rifle though. Great ideas, some good battlefield trials in the Pacific, but I smell the whiff of Chauchat in it's magazine system.


To me, the ultimate Garand variant isn't the M-14 / M1-a....but rather, the Beretta BM-59. Converted Garand, uses M-14 mags, just all round tuned to perfection rifle. Lust. LUST!.


As for a perfect modern service cartridge? Give me a modification of the 6.5 Grendel, but with the shoulder moved forward more like the 6.8 SPC. Then, the damn thing would work with the M-249 and other belt-fed weapons. The Grendel's shoulder is too far back, and the '249's feed-pawl can barely engage it on the shoulder radius.


Barring that, I'll stick to my 6.5x55 Swede rifles. Tack drivers, incredible penetration, great external and terminal ballistics, modest recoil....what's not to love?


Oh, this isn't the gun thread? Damn, guess I was as think as I drunk you was, after all?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2014 12:20 AM (vvk2F)

512
470 The M4 is shorter, has a railed upper, carbine-length gas system, collapsible stock, faster twist in the barrel, and extended feed ramps.
All of which makes grampa very happy

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 12:23 AM (b7yum)

513 Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2014 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

"Clear, spiced, dark?

Mixing or straight?
"
-Posted by: RWC

^I think you've found your Local Expert!^

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 12:24 AM (lq3Ak)

514 The best way to split wood is do it in cold weather. Anything below about 5 deg F and splitting is a breeze.

Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 12:25 AM (PlzOe)

515 They must have found out that you post here every now again!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 19, 2014 12:17 AM (o3MSL)


Heh, you may be right, given where the job is: the newly designated "Cyber Center of Excellence" at Fort Gordon.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 19, 2014 12:26 AM (vn9w4)

516 OK, I'm out

tomorrow night, mi amigoes

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 19, 2014 12:26 AM (KCxzN)

517 Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2014 12:20 AM (vvk2F)


Been hankering to buy something.

Checked GunBroker. 6.5swede is 1800+.

Not bad mind you but I was hoping beyond hope they'd be in the MN price range.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:26 AM (QeH9j)

518 @506 check out my list @475 for spiced rum. If you are talking white rum, Bacardi is the go to, but if you are putting it dacquiris might as well get the cheapest stuff in the plastic bottle.

Posted by: blaster at April 19, 2014 12:27 AM (4+AaH)

519 Just wanted to pop in and say "Howdy" to everyone. Gonna go pop some popcorn and watch a movie. Night, y'all!

Posted by: Country Singer at April 19, 2014 12:28 AM (vn9w4)

520 Alvin York is a dead white guy who was a racist-sexist-homophobe with a gun fetish.

Posted by: College Student at April 19, 2014 12:28 AM (XRSxm)

521 Later, Alton! Good Luck!

Hmmmm....
...he didn't want his change, nor his receipt.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 12:28 AM (lq3Ak)

522 And if you like flavors then Cruzan.

Posted by: blaster at April 19, 2014 12:29 AM (4+AaH)

523 Does anybody have recommendations for good rum, regardless of label?

Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2014 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

I like the 7 year old Flor de Cana rum from Nicaragua. Very smooth, tasty. The 12 year old stuff is even better, but too pricey for my regular use.

I bought a bottle of One Barrel rum from Belize, and it sure smells nice, but tastes a little harsh.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2014 12:29 AM (5z2ng)

524 518 Too bad you're not in socali I'm getting rid of a bunch of ar's

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 12:29 AM (b7yum)

525 The best way to split wood is do it in cold weather. Anything below about 5 deg F and splitting is a breeze.


Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 12:25 AM (PlzOe)


Ok Paul "nanook" Bunyun. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 19, 2014 12:31 AM (FMbng)

526
-Posted by: RWC

^I think you've found your Local Expert!^
Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 12:24 AM (lq3Ak)

No, I just play one on TV.

Rum was my drink back in the day but I always mixed it, even with a thimbleful of flavored water.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:31 AM (QeH9j)

527 That axe is neat.
I've always wanted an axe that turned, twisted my wrist, and broke my bone at the end of the stroke.

Posted by: Bobby K. at April 19, 2014 12:33 AM (Q++7t)

528 Going to St. Thomas was always fun. Buy a bottle of top shelf rum or buy a candy bar. Actually I think the candy bar was more expensive.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:33 AM (QeH9j)

529 I've always wanted an axe that turned, twisted my wrist, and broke my bone at the end of the stroke.

Posted by: Bobby K. at April 19, 2014 12:33 AM (Q++7t)


If you order today we'll include splinters and kindle sticking into your knee or calves.



So there are still Patriots at Bundy Ranch? Thank the Lord.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:35 AM (QeH9j)

530 Sgt. York peers down his barrel,
resting on sights where his snot lays fallow.
All quiet on his trouser's front,
the french maid knew how to blunt
his ardor, once none too shallow.

Posted by: The Postman Rang askance at April 19, 2014 12:39 AM (wu/TK)

531 OK, we'll save the Iver-Johnson feud for a proper gun thread. It was "made special" for Marine Raiders, you know...that, and those outboard motors.

That's not an axe. It's a splitting maul.

I won't drink any rum you can see through. I can't get Lemon Hart here any more.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 12:40 AM (xq1UY)

532 526
The best way to split wood is do it in cold weather. Anything below about 5 deg F and splitting is a breeze.




Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 12:25 AM (PlzOe)


Ok Paul "nanook" Bunyun. lol


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 19, 2014 12:31 AM (FMbng)


====I didn't even mention the incentive part.

Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 12:41 AM (PlzOe)

533 *settles in with a Redd's Apple Ale*



Since the M1A is, in fact, still in service, the claims of the upstart M16 are invalid.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 12:42 AM (yh0zB)

534 The best way to split wood is let someone else do it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 12:43 AM (yh0zB)

535 ====I didn't even mention the incentive part.


Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 12:41 AM (PlzOe)

Wood, the only fuel that warms you twice.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2014 12:43 AM (5z2ng)

536 @534. Where? And ceremonial does not count.

Posted by: blaster at April 19, 2014 12:44 AM (4+AaH)

537 535 The best way to split wood is let someone else do it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 12:43 AM (yh0zB)


Why do you think he invented an axe that benefits frail hands and grip.


Kids...cut some wood!

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:45 AM (QeH9j)

538 Snipers are still using them in Trashcanistan (although most of them are using a variant of the Rem 700 or the venerable Barrett), and I think some of the specops boys have them, too. It's not being used in frontline service, of course, but you can still find them around now and again.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 12:46 AM (yh0zB)

539 Evening morons. Just dropped by to leave this here.

Guaranteed to put a smile on your face. Completely SFW.

http://youtu.be/a_426RiwST8


Posted by: flounder at April 19, 2014 12:47 AM (Kkt/i)

540 Just switched to MSLSD for my 2minute hate.

Lockup is on.

Might as well play the ratings winner.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:48 AM (QeH9j)

541 The best way to split wood is let someone else do it.

Any job worth doing is worth doing yourself.

Posted by: Lorena Bobbitt at April 19, 2014 12:49 AM (pkS2f)

542 Why do you think he invented an axe that benefits frail hands and grip.






Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:45 AM (QeH9j)


The Popeil homo hatchet?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 19, 2014 12:50 AM (FMbng)

543 542 The best way to split wood is let someone else do it.

Any job worth doing is worth doing yourself.
Posted by: Lorena Bobbitt at April 19, 2014 12:49 AM (pkS2f)


Lived across the street from you and your mom.

Any wonder I avoided you

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:51 AM (QeH9j)

544 OK boys and girls, now that I'm all caught up I'm off to bed, been a long day. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 12:51 AM (yh0zB)

545 527


-Posted by: RWC



^I think you've found your Local Expert!^

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 12:24 AM (lq3Ak)



No, I just play one on TV.



Rum was my drink back in the day but I always mixed it, even with a thimbleful of flavored water.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:31 AM (QeH9j)
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Back in college, I used to gargle and swallow a shot of 151 -- then pass a shot over to another student. It's a simple and effective way of demonstrating that you're "case-hardened".

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 12:52 AM (T1005)

546 540
Evening morons. Just dropped by to leave this here.

Guaranteed to put a smile on your face. Completely SFW.

http://youtu.be/a_426RiwST8




Posted by: flounder at April 19, 2014 12:47 AM (Kkt/i)


====I hit your link and got a friggin' aarp commersh. I have despised aarp since oblamercare. true shitbags of the first order.
otherwise, vid was cool. for some reason I expected Dick Clark to show up.

Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 12:55 AM (PlzOe)

547 Oh an M14. Gotcha. Yeah.

I could actually shoot with an M14. In the hands of someone who is good they are something else.

Posted by: blaster at April 19, 2014 12:56 AM (4+AaH)

548 Kids...cut some wood!

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 12:45 AM (QeH9j)


What I'm saying.

Posted by: Bryan Singer at April 19, 2014 12:56 AM (XRSxm)

549 to be fair, there is a ton of wasted force in using an axe (and handsaws which I use daily)

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:00 AM (bStrg)

550 I cut me a switch
to tan the bottom
of the nearest snitch.
Hollywood's got 'em,
those boys I'll make bitch
this coming autumn.

Posted by: Lumberjacker & Auteur J. Sandusky at April 19, 2014 01:02 AM (wu/TK)

551 HOLY CRAP I just read the post about the LA Sheriffs spying from the sky -- wtf is wrong with these control freaks?!

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 19, 2014 01:05 AM (ua1Yo)

552 552
HOLY CRAP I just read the post about the LA Sheriffs spying from the sky -- wtf is wrong with these control freaks?!

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 19, 2014 01:05 AM (ua1Yo)
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You have to remember that their motto is "we'll treat you like a [Rodney] King"....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:07 AM (T1005)

553 552 HOLY CRAP I just read the post about the LA Sheriffs spying from the sky -- wtf is wrong with these control freaks?!

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 19, 2014 01:05 AM (ua1Yo)

It's a given that they know everything about you. Procede accordingly.

Hi NSA fucks!

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 01:08 AM (QeH9j)

554 The Left will destroy a Sandusky. The Hollywood culture of pedophilia? Not so much.

Posted by: Bryan Singer at April 19, 2014 01:11 AM (XRSxm)

555 555
The Left will destroy a Sandusky. The Hollywood culture of pedophilia? Not so much.


Posted by: Bryan Singer at April 19, 2014 01:11 AM (XRSxm)

=========Sandusky is not in a position to do anything for them personally.

Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 01:13 AM (PlzOe)

556 HOLY CRAP I just read the post about the LA Sheriffs spying from the sky -- wtf is wrong with these control freaks?!

Too much Alan Parsons Project on their playlist: http://youtu.be/aBQalkIeE7s

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 19, 2014 01:14 AM (0AKks)

557 HOLY CRAP I just read the post about the LA Sheriffs spying from the sky -- wtf is wrong with these control freaks?!

A little mood music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1B_pZC8aWU

Posted by: Screaming for hats at April 19, 2014 01:17 AM (AymDN)

558 556
555

The Left will destroy a Sandusky. The Hollywood culture of pedophilia? Not so much.




Posted by: Bryan Singer at April 19, 2014 01:11 AM (XRSxm)

=========Sandusky is not in a position to do anything for them personally.


Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 01:13 AM (PlzOe)

====To elaborate a little. Being a leftist means everything is negotiable -- including one's personal morals.
For example, it finally dawned on me (yeah, I'm pretty slow) that every single thing Hairy Reed ever sez can be translated into "this person has not paid me." or "this person has paid me." There is nothing else. All that BS about the Koch's is just a brazen demand that those who make political contributions make sure he gets his cut, too.


Posted by: jc at April 19, 2014 01:17 AM (PlzOe)

559 Splitting stove wood (from rounds cut to 14-18 inch lengths) is easy, if you have the right tool. It's called a splitting maul.


Axes, by their nature, are used for cutting, not splitting.



Despite those statements, I've split many cords of stovewood with an axe. It takes at least two skills: 1) reading the grain of the subject piece, and 2) an ability to place the blade in the desired spot.

As far as 1) - techniques can help a great deal. On a straight grained, dry piece, a centered hit can work, as in the movies. On more usual, difficult pieces, an orthogonally oriented, near edge hit will be easier to accomplish, and result in whittling the round into smaller pieces.

The traditional test of 2) is to see if you can split a wooden match
stuck upright in the splitting block (let alone hit it). That can be a
very humbling experience, especially in a competition.

Sometimes, burying the blade on purpose, and lifting the entire unsplit piece to drop it axe-poll first onto the splitting block, will give the most satisfying results against the more difficult pieces.

Some wood pieces (particularly knotty chunks, or any elm) should be taken as physical embodiments of personal frustrations, that can only be solved by the release of an inordinate amount of exasperation. Most satisfying, once done. Everyone who has done this knows about those special blocks of wood they've set aside, and after much thought and an embarassing amount of effort, finally found a way to split them to size.

In any case, as the saying goes, heating with wood heats you many times: cutting, hauling, splitting, stacking, and burning.

Posted by: sodak at April 19, 2014 01:17 AM (B2TZ1)

560 Holy guacamole, an ace ONT.

It's been a long day for the Ewok. Me, too. Nappy time. Nite, all.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 19, 2014 01:18 AM (QEL89)

561 Speaking of rum -- here is a very difficult trivia question which you might think at first glance would be fairly easy. At least there aren't many options to choose from. Here it is -- first person with the right answer wins glory and bragging rights for the rest of time:


What is the most-consumed (by volume) kind of hard liquor, worldwide?


(We're talkin' generic genres of distilled spirits, rather than specific individual brands. Thus, "rum" would be a correct answer [if rum was the most-consumed, which it isn't], whereas "Bacardi" or some other brand would always be wrong. Also, beer and wine don't count, because they are not distilled.)

Easy enough -- right? Start guessing! And no googling, cheaters! (And even if you do google, its not easy to find the right answer, because there is intentional misinformation out there. I, however, recently saw an industry insider report with the real stats.)

And we might as well make this a drinking game, so for every wrong answer, everyone has to take a shot of the incorrectly named spirit!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:18 AM (mizYg)

562
Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:18 AM (mizYg)

vodka (though I guess it could be sambuca)

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:22 AM (bStrg)

563 What is the most-consumed (by volume) kind of hard liquor, worldwide?

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:18 AM (mizYg)


Obama's Mom?

Posted by: The Self- at April 19, 2014 01:22 AM (AymDN)

564 562 im going with vodka

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:23 AM (krmE0)

565 No post hypen socks?

Posted by: The Self-Denouncing Hat at April 19, 2014 01:23 AM (AymDN)

566 Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:18 AM (mizYg)


Gin?

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 01:23 AM (QeH9j)

567 Ah, there we go…

Posted by: The Self-Denouncing Hat at April 19, 2014 01:23 AM (AymDN)

568 563 ugggghhhhh
that's what I get for reading the stupid content

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:24 AM (krmE0)

569 What is the most-consumed (by volume) kind of hard liquor, worldwide?

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:18 AM (mizYg)


As tempted as I am to say "Sandra Fluke," I do not have an proof that she bothers to use her tongue…

Posted by: The Self-Denouncing Hat at April 19, 2014 01:24 AM (AymDN)

570 If anyone wants a Big Party Drink, just think "Hairy Buffalo".

1/3 Fruit, (FLOTUS' Orders)
1/3 White Liquors
1/3 Fruit Juices

They don't make Tropicana Twisters anymore, (sad), but they still have other fruit juice combinations.

If you only want to make two gallons of "The Wicked Knee-Bucklers of Chicks"?

-One-Fifth of Bacardi 151.
-One-Fifth of tequila, -or Triple Sec, -or Vodka.
*Two Of The Above*
-Equal parts fruit juice of your choice.
-Pineapple chunks, watermelon, grapes, (holes poked by fork), halved-strawberries, diced pears, diced mango... etc.

Do Not Use Apples, Oranges or other citrus. They will degrade and/or turn brown quickly.

-Cut the fruit and add the alcohol 24 hours in advance.
-Store in fridge.
-Don't add the Fruit Juice until the last minute.

The ratios are always .33 + .33 + .33.

The ratios allow for you to make as much or as little as you need.

Slapweasel's Hairy Buffalo. It fits in a punch-bowl or a garbage-can. I've done both.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:24 AM (lq3Ak)

571
Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:24 AM (lq3Ak)

so a coordinated wapatui?

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:25 AM (bStrg)

572
553 You guys don't already have cameras at intersections and traffic cameras on your freeways? This is oldoldoldoldoldtech in socali.
sigalert.com. That's how it works.
What exactly is the difference between having cameras in your parks and parking a reallife cop there, except one is practical and the other can never happen?

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 01:25 AM (b7yum)

573 Drink recipe:

The Brain Duster

1 dash Angostura bitters
1 oz sweet vermouth
1 oz absinthe
1 oz rye whiskey

Posted by: The Absinthe Hat at April 19, 2014 01:25 AM (AymDN)

574 Sandusky only came to mind.
Replace him with Polanski, in kind.
The poison of taboo did bind
such scum so oily a find.
A hanging's due each time.

Posted by: Mime at April 19, 2014 01:26 AM (wu/TK)

575 562 T is saying tequila

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:26 AM (krmE0)

576 What exactly is the difference between having cameras in your parks and parking a reallife cop there, except one is practical and the other can never happen?

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 01:25 AM (b7yum)


It makes a difference if you own a donut shop…

Posted by: Chief Wiggum at April 19, 2014 01:26 AM (AymDN)

577 573 What exactly is the difference between having cameras in your parks and parking a reallife cop there,

a gun

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:28 AM (krmE0)

578 www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fWo0P0MdJM

Barefoot axe says splitting is easy.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:28 AM (Aqvh6)

579 so a coordinated wapatui?

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:25 AM (bStrg)

Yup! No matter what you call it? It is a knee-separator!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:29 AM (lq3Ak)

580 Vodka -- NO.

However, you get a silver star, The Dude and navycopjoe, for it comes in SECOND PLACE volume-wise.

Gin -- not even close.

Tequila? Wayyyyy off-base.

Still no right answer.

Also: Bronze star and bragging rights for naming the third-place liquor.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:29 AM (mizYg)

581 So what's the LAPDs position on civilian use of optical augmentation?

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:30 AM (Aqvh6)

582
577 Hahaha yeah I don't get why people's ability to live safely in their communities gets so readily trumped by some abstract vision of what the 4th amendment means.
Does "right to be secure in their persons" mean you can't search their cars or thatthey have some minimum level of personal safety???

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 01:30 AM (b7yum)

583 562
Speaking of rum -- here is a very difficult trivia question which you
might think at first glance would be fairly easy. At least there aren't
many options to choose from. Here it is -- first person with the right
answer wins glory and bragging rights for the rest of time:





What is the most-consumed (by volume) kind of hard liquor, worldwide?





(We're talkin' generic genres of distilled spirits, rather than
specific individual brands. Thus, "rum" would be a correct answer [if
rum was the most-consumed, which it isn't], whereas "Bacardi" or some
other brand would always be wrong. Also, beer and wine don't count,
because they are not distilled.)



Easy enough -- right? Start guessing! And no googling, cheaters!
(And even if you do google, its not easy to find the right answer,
because there is intentional misinformation out there. I, however,
recently saw an industry insider report with the real stats.)



And we might as well make this a drinking game, so for every wrong
answer, everyone has to take a shot of the incorrectly named spirit!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:18 AM (mizYg)
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Actually, your statement "there aren't many options to choose from" is entirely incorrect. Anything sweet will ferment in water (even if unpleasant to behold) and can be distilled to liquor. So you initially go to fruits (brandies) or grains....


Then you note that you're talking about "consumed (by volume)" rather than "sold". Especially in less-developed areas, there is a hell-of-a-lot of liquor that is consumed but never purchased.


I'd suspect that it's distilled rice wine -- whatever that is named -- and that it's popular in a swath from Africa through Bangladesh to Indonesia and north to Manchuria, and virtually none of it has tax stamps. Or labels. Or makes it more than 10 miles from where it was distilled.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)

584 Zombie, whatever cheap scotch the Chinese are drinking

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:31 AM (Aqvh6)

585 Most drank hard liquor?

Does jenkem count?

Posted by: The EtOH Hat at April 19, 2014 01:32 AM (AymDN)

586 Drink Recipe...Painkiller.

1 shot Bacardi light Rum
1 shot Bacardi Dark Rum
1 shot Creme de cocoa
Strawberry Fusion added to fill 16 oz. Glass.

Be close to your bed after 3 of them.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 19, 2014 01:32 AM (ojnk6)

587 I hope it's not ethanol in our stupid biofuel distortion of the economy for PRs sake

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:33 AM (Aqvh6)

588 Liquor?

...I hardly knew her.

I'll guess "White Lightning". Un-Barreled whiskey. A.K.A. "Moonshine"

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:33 AM (lq3Ak)

589
Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)

saki

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:34 AM (bStrg)

590 Oh, and brandies probably come in third.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:34 AM (T1005)

591
578 That community (Compton) is so crime-filled that there ain't no way they'll ever have enough real cops to bring crime down enough unassisted by technology.
Plus the consent decree severely curtails their ability to pull people over.
Holder-style DOJ is headed for straight-up race based metrics, meaning that the world of crime is about to explode. What is a PRACTICAL method to protect people in these communities?

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 01:34 AM (b7yum)

592 589


Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)

saki


Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:34 AM (bStrg)
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Sake is just rice wine.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:35 AM (T1005)

593 Drink recipe:

Heavy double shot of Jack
Ice

Repeat until bottle is empty

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:35 AM (Aqvh6)

594 Blood Wine.

Posted by: Kahless at April 19, 2014 01:35 AM (AymDN)

595 586
Make that Strawberry Banana Fusion.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 19, 2014 01:35 AM (ojnk6)

596 Romulan Ale

Posted by: Commander Sela at April 19, 2014 01:36 AM (AymDN)

597 Oh, and brandies probably come in third.


Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:34 AM (T1005)

whiskey or irish whiskey if you're gonna separate the two

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:36 AM (bStrg)

598 I'd suspect that it's distilled rice wine -- whatever that is named -- and that it's popular in a swath from Africa through Bangladesh to Indonesia and north to Manchuria, and virtually none of it has tax stamps. Or labels. Or makes it more than 10 miles from where it was distilled.
Posted by: cthulhu


Well, you are getting warm, but you gotta give the product a name.

I am in fact talking about manufactured and sold liquor, not home-made moonshine. (Though, in reality, the answer is likely the same.)

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:36 AM (mizYg)

599 Dude, if your going to do that, you might as well separate it into Catholic and Protestant

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:37 AM (Aqvh6)

600 591 I used to be a hardcore rights guy myself, but actual experience of what the decent people of these communities go through has tempered my zeal

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 01:38 AM (b7yum)

601 584 Zombie, whatever cheap scotch the Chinese are drinking
Posted by: Jean


You and cthulhu should huddle to get the right answer between you.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:38 AM (mizYg)

602 Does jenkem count?
Posted by: The EtOH Hat


No.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:38 AM (mizYg)

603 Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:36 AM (mizYg)

Someone already mentioned "Saki". I think it was "The Dude".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:39 AM (lq3Ak)

604 Soju? For the win and the headache

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:39 AM (Aqvh6)

605 I'll guess "White Lightning". Un-Barreled whiskey. A.K.A. "Moonshine"
Posted by: Slapweasel


To clarify: I am indeed speaking of professionally manufactured liquor, which can be therefore totalled up. There's no way to quantify moonshine.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:40 AM (mizYg)

606 The way zombie phrased the question, it's not about the flavor. It's more like:


Distilled fermented sugar cane -- rum
Distilled fermented fruits -- brandy
Distilled fermented potatoes (now mostly wheat) -- vodka
Distilled fermented corn -- whiskey


So I went with the most popular staple food that you can ferment and distill and figured it would be rice -- and rice has been grown across Africa and Asia long enough for everybody and their brother-in-law to set up a mash and a still.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:40 AM (T1005)

607 Most consumed alcohol = what ever the Kennedy clan is drinking…

Posted by: The Drinky Hat at April 19, 2014 01:40 AM (AymDN)

608 598 sochu I think it called
like a nasty potato rice whiskey thing

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:40 AM (krmE0)

609 saki
Posted by: The Dude


Nope.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:40 AM (mizYg)

610 Someone already mentioned "Saki". I think it was "The Dude".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:39 AM (lq3Ak)

saki is brewed, not fermented

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:41 AM (bStrg)

611 590 Oh, and brandies probably come in third.
Posted by: cthulhu


Nope.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:41 AM (mizYg)

612 Quantifying moonshine is difficult, qualifying it is fun

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:41 AM (Aqvh6)

613 To clarify: I am indeed speaking of professionally manufactured liquor, which can be therefore totalled up. There's no way to quantify moonshine.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:40 AM (mizYg)


We're gonna try anyway.

Posted by: BATF at April 19, 2014 01:41 AM (AymDN)

614 594 Blood Wine.
Posted by: Kahless

596 Romulan Ale
Posted by: Commander Sela


So wrong it's not even in the category of wrongness.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:42 AM (mizYg)

615 I know what it is but I've already given too many guesses. Good luck to anyone who tries to spell it without looking it up

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:42 AM (bStrg)

616 whiskey or irish whiskey if you're gonna separate the two
Posted by: The Dude


I thought that would be everyone's first guess, but the answer is...NO!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:43 AM (mizYg)

617 Think not less of my omniscience if the barbarian term fails to timely cross my mind without an internet search....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:43 AM (T1005)

618 This contest has buried my recipe.

Easy Version:
1/3 Fruit You Like *poked and accessible*
1/3 White Liquor
1/3 Fruit Juice

I know we're not in college, but you never know when you'll hoist The FIESTA Flag.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:43 AM (lq3Ak)

619 T is saying its spelled shochu

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:43 AM (krmE0)

620 I thought that would be everyone's first guess, but the answer is...NO!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:43 AM (mizYg)

for the third most drank booze? If so, that is kinda surprising

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:44 AM (bStrg)

621 604 Soju? For the win and the headache
Posted by: Jean


OK, I'm giving out a big clue here:

So close, you're on fire.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:44 AM (mizYg)

622 T is saying its spelled shochu

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:43 AM (krmE0)

same family but different booze

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:44 AM (bStrg)

623 Dammit Zombe.

Can't sleep until you give the answer.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 01:45 AM (QeH9j)

624 608 598 sochu I think it called
like a nasty potato rice whiskey thing
Posted by: navycopjoe


Warmer.....

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:45 AM (mizYg)

625 It's gotta be soju, I live next door to Annendale VA, aka East Korea. The variety of that crap available and the quantity consumed by the oriental Irish (Koreans) is insane.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:45 AM (Aqvh6)

626 594 Blood Wine.
Posted by: Kahless

596 Romulan Ale
Posted by: Commander Sela

So wrong it's not even in the category of wrongness.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:42 AM (mizYg)


Terran-normative oppressor!

Posted by: Space Hippies at April 19, 2014 01:45 AM (AymDN)

627 fine, bajiia or how ever the fuck you spell it

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:45 AM (bStrg)

628 im going have to run to the corner store and see what the Chinese tourists are buying

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:46 AM (krmE0)

629 Baijiu?

Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat at April 19, 2014 01:47 AM (AymDN)

630 Though Soju is the type of booze that has the two of the top 3 brands in the world

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:47 AM (bStrg)

631 621
604 Soju? For the win and the headache

Posted by: Jean



OK, I'm giving out a big clue here:



So close, you're on fire.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:44 AM (mizYg)
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So it's devolved from a "knowledge" thing into a "spelling" thing, when the regions involved don't use the Latin alphabet, anyway?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:47 AM (T1005)

632 speaking of drinks, I am having a 7/7 and it tastes just fine

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:47 AM (krmE0)

633 "saki is brewed, not fermented"
Posted by: The Dude

I didn't even know that.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:47 AM (lq3Ak)

634 1. ______?
2. Vodka
3. _____?

C'mon, drunkards!

We've eliminated

rum
whiskey
sake
soju/shochu
brandy

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:47 AM (mizYg)

635 If your looking for a brand of soju, then I'm out. I can describe the red bottle with a lotus flower on it that fills trash cans around here, but I have no idea what the name is.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:48 AM (Aqvh6)

636 "saki is brewed, not fermented"
Posted by: The Dude

I didn't even know that.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:47 AM (lq3Ak)


Non-distilled booze usually comes from three sources:

1). Grains
2). Fruits
3). Honey

Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat *hic* at April 19, 2014 01:48 AM (AymDN)

637 627 fine, bajiia or how ever the fuck you spell it
Posted by: The Dude

629 Baijiu?
Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat


WE HAVE WINNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:48 AM (mizYg)

638 To clarify: I am indeed speaking of professionally manufactured liquor, which can be therefore totalled up. There's no way to quantify moonshine.)))

Quantifying? Pints liters and gallons.

Missed the original question but felt the need to chime in.

Posted by: Dendritic's grand kid at April 19, 2014 01:49 AM (75hfB)

639 This has become a Mad Scramble and I'll bow-out slowly. I'm clueless.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:49 AM (lq3Ak)

640 The Dude shares first prize for semi-guessing the right answer, and The Ethanolic Hat, although second time-wise, was the first correctly spelled answer!

Take bows.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:49 AM (mizYg)

641 makes sense, China sure does love their drink

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 01:50 AM (bStrg)

642 625
It's gotta be soju, I live next door to Annendale VA, aka East Korea.
The variety of that crap available and the quantity consumed by the
oriental Irish (Koreans) is insane.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2014 01:45 AM (Aqvh6)
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How dare you call them oriental Irish when they're an honor-bound people who drink heavily and have epic bar-fights? And who have traditionally been classified as second-class people by their somewhat more successful neighbors even though they've ended up doing most of the work?



Hmmm.....I wonder if they have Shamrocks there.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 01:50 AM (T1005)

643 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baijiu

"Baijiu (Chinese: 白酒; pinyin: báijiǔ, also known as shaojiu, is an alcoholic beverage from China. It is sometimes infelicitously translated as "white wine", but it is in fact a strong distilled spirit, generally about 40–60% alcohol by volume (ABV), and the world's most-consumed liquor.

It is a clear drink usually distilled from sorghum, although other grains may be used: baijiu in southern China often employs glutinous rice, while northern Chinese varieties may use wheat, barley, millet, or even Job's tears in place of sorghum. The jiuqu starter culture used in the production of baijiu mash is usually made of pulverized wheat grains.

Because of its clarity, baijiu can appear similar to several other East Asian liquors, but it generally has a significantly higher alcohol content than, for example, Japanese shōchū (25%) or Korean soju (20–45%). "

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:51 AM (mizYg)

644 Also, cthulhu gets honorable (pun intended) mention, for basically knowing what it was before anyone else, but not knowing the name.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:53 AM (mizYg)

645 Peeks into ace ont. is it safe? Are we in trouble yet?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 19, 2014 01:53 AM (e357Q)

646 OK, people -- there are still points to be earned:

1. Baijiu
2. Vodka
3. ___________???????????????????

This is killer.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:54 AM (mizYg)

647 ive heard the Koreans then the Chinese are the biggest drinkers in the world so that makes sense
never heard of it though

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:54 AM (krmE0)

648 Peeks into ace ont. is it safe? Are we in trouble yet?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 19, 2014 01:53 AM (e357Q)

--------

It was a drive by ONT by Ace. We're good. Have at it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 19, 2014 01:56 AM (ojnk6)

649 I swear upon My Mother's Grave that I'll NEVER drink baja-jew, solely due to this episode.

When she cooked meatloaf last week, I wouldn't even have "bet" upon her life.

When she crosses over from this unto "The Next", I'll never allow the taste to cross my lips.

SONSA-BITCHIN-BUMPUSES!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:57 AM (lq3Ak)

650 646

First guess Rum. Since it is distilled from sugars.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 19, 2014 01:58 AM (75hfB)

651 Also, there is some controversy about the third-place winner -- the big corporations think the totals of the claimed third-most-consumed spirit may have been inflated to include homebrew (of this spirit). Either way, it's either in third, or very very close.

And yes, it makes "baijiu" seem obvious.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:58 AM (mizYg)

652 The computer is as close to fritzing as it gets before fritzing ... so ...

Happy-ish Good Friday Good Night, all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriiane... at April 19, 2014 01:59 AM (qoKTg)

653 First guess Rum. Since it is distilled from sugars.
Posted by: Dendritic


Well, as mentioned in the original formulation of the question, rum is NOT the answer, not even for third place.

However, to lessen the torture, I will say that you are in the ballpark. BIG CLUE.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:00 AM (mizYg)

654 636
"saki is brewed, not fermented"

Posted by: The Dude



I didn't even know that.



Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 01:47 AM (lq3Ak)



Non-distilled booze usually comes from three sources:



1). Grains

2). Fruits

3). Honey

Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat *hic* at April 19, 2014 01:48 AM (AymDN)
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Basic booze comes from fermenting sugars. These can come, as you note, from Grains, Fruits, or Honey, but also from sugarcane, sugar beets, potatoes, or -- in extreme cases -- mare's milk [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis ].



Any basic fermented alcoholic drink can then be distilled. If you make wine -- whether from grapes or plums -- the distillate is a "brandy". If you ferment something else, the distillate can be called a wide variety of things. In many cases (sour mash Tennessee whiskey comes to mind), the intermediate product is not at all appealing and would presumably never be consumed. In other cases (e.g. nicely-hopped IPAs), the intermediate product is so appealing that distillation would probably never be performed.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:03 AM (T1005)

655
626 594 Blood Wine. Posted by: Kahless 596 Romulan Ale Posted by: Commander Sela So wrong it's not even in the category of wrongness. Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 01:42 AM (mizYg) Terran-normative oppressor!
Posted by: Space Hippies at April 19, 2014 01:45 AM (AymDN)


Don't you mean a "Herbert!"

Posted by: buzzion at April 19, 2014 02:04 AM (LI48c)

656 654 cthulhu:

Once again, you have semi-identified the answer, without actually naming it.

HUGE CLUE: Somewhere embedded in your comment is the answer, although you never actually give its name.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:05 AM (mizYg)

657 Shochu?

Posted by: Dendritic at April 19, 2014 02:05 AM (75hfB)

658 texted my crazy sister
she says try arak

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 02:06 AM (krmE0)

659 Don't you mean a "Herbert!"
Posted by: buzzion


Is that a "Lost in Space" reference? I HAVE FOUND MY SOUL-MATE AT LAST!!!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:06 AM (mizYg)

660 657 Shochu?
Posted by: Dendriti


No, we already eliminated that.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:07 AM (mizYg)

661 658 texted my crazy sister
she says try arak
Posted by: navycopjoe


She really IS crazy. No.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:07 AM (mizYg)

662 When I want a fermented drink I stick to Yak Milk.

Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2014 02:07 AM (oaf6G)

663 Basic booze comes from fermenting sugars. These can come, as you note, from Grains, Fruits, or Honey, but also from sugarcane, sugar beets, potatoes, or -- in extreme cases -- mare's milk [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis ].

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:03 AM (T1005)


Non-fermented drinks usually aren't made directly from sugarcane, sugar beets, or potatoes - compared to the three I listed.

Indeed, any source or sugar can be used, including mares milk and spit.

Also, jenkem, which was mentioned previously.

Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat *hic* at April 19, 2014 02:08 AM (AymDN)

664 First of all, why has nobody guessed the obvious:

Gin!!!

Ooops, that's wrong too. I'm just shocked that nobody has guessed it yet.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:08 AM (mizYg)

665 656
654 cthulhu:



Once again, you have semi-identified the answer, without actually naming it.



HUGE CLUE: Somewhere embedded in your comment is the answer, although you never actually give its name.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:05 AM (mizYg)
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Yeah, I've always liked to understand how things work without focusing on terminology. You should see me talking with machinists about "slop", while they keep yelling, "backlash! backlash!"

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:08 AM (T1005)

666 Tequila? If Asians drink whatever, and europeans drink vodka, does South America make Tequila #3 since rum is eliminated.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 19, 2014 02:08 AM (cQZV0)

667
659 Don't you mean a "Herbert!" Posted by: buzzion Is that a "Lost in Space" reference? I HAVE FOUND MY SOUL-MATE AT LAST!!!
Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:06 AM (mizYg)


No its a Star Trek reference. The Space Hippies called the squares Herbert.

http://youtu.be/PQONBf9xMss

Posted by: buzzion at April 19, 2014 02:09 AM (LI48c)

668 She really IS crazy

how much do you have to drink to even know what an arak is?
I worry about her sometimes

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 02:09 AM (krmE0)

669 This "brand" of marijuana is coveted by anyone interested in a "Body Buzz".

What would you call it?

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 02:09 AM (lq3Ak)

670 How many times can jenkem be mentioned on one thread in polite society?

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:10 AM (mizYg)

671 659
Don't you mean a "Herbert!"

Posted by: buzzion



Is that a "Lost in Space" reference? I HAVE FOUND MY SOUL-MATE AT LAST!!!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:06 AM (mizYg)
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I thought that was from ST:TOS, where they pick up the space hippies.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:10 AM (T1005)

672 Tequila? If Asians drink whatever, and europeans drink vodka, does South America make Tequila #3 since rum is eliminated.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 19, 2014 02:08 AM (cQZV0)


It's mostly a Mexican thing, since that is were the plant it's made from is grown.

Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat *hic* at April 19, 2014 02:10 AM (AymDN)

673
666 Tequila? If Asians drink whatever, and europeans drink vodka, does South America make Tequila #3 since rum is eliminated.
Posted by: PaleRider at April 19, 2014 02:08 AM (cQZV0)


Only Mexico makes Tequila. Only Mexico can make Tequila. If it is not made in that area, even if using agaves it is not Tequila.

Posted by: buzzion at April 19, 2014 02:10 AM (LI48c)

674 Any basic fermented alcoholic drink can then be distilled. If you make wine -- whether from grapes or plums -- the distillate is a "brandy".

A certain magazine once published a recipe for marijuana wine. Alcohol and THC in one package.

What would you call the distillate of that? Other than undrinkable.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 19, 2014 02:10 AM (0AKks)

675 Sang Som?

Posted by: Dendritic at April 19, 2014 02:10 AM (75hfB)

676 How many times can jenkem be mentioned on one thread in polite society?

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:10 AM (mizYg)


This isn't polite society.

This is the ONT

Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic* at April 19, 2014 02:11 AM (AymDN)

677 Well I got the souls anyway

Posted by: PaleRider at April 19, 2014 02:11 AM (cQZV0)

678 666 Tequila? If Asians drink whatever, and europeans drink vodka, does South America make Tequila #3 since rum is eliminated.
Posted by: PaleRider


Tequila is INCORRECT, but DAY-UMMMMMMMM you are getting close!!!!!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:11 AM (mizYg)

679
664 First of all, why has nobody guessed the obvious: Gin!!! Ooops, that's wrong too. I'm just shocked that nobody has guessed it yet.
Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:08 AM (mizYg)


Gin was guessed earlier.

Bourbon?

Posted by: buzzion at April 19, 2014 02:11 AM (LI48c)

680 Tequila? If Asians drink whatever, and europeans drink vodka, does South America make Tequila #3 since rum is eliminated.
Posted by: PaleRider

Tequila is INCORRECT, but DAY-UMMMMMMMM you are getting close!!!!!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:11 AM (mizYg)


It's not that fermented stuff made with spit, is it?

Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic* at April 19, 2014 02:13 AM (AymDN)

681 No its a Star Trek reference. The Space Hippies called the squares Herbert.

http://youtu.be/PQONBf9xMss
Posted by: buzzion


Damn. And I thought you were my soul mate.

But you know how I got to "Lost in Space"?

The ST actor who first says "Herbert" ALSO appeared in several "Lost in Space" episodes as a disgruntled teen space hippie!

Seriously.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:13 AM (mizYg)

682 A generic term for "Mind-Buzz" versus "Body-Buzz" marijuana is as easy as pie.

What would you call the "Body-Buzz" -brand?

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 02:13 AM (lq3Ak)

683 Pisco???

Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic* at April 19, 2014 02:14 AM (AymDN)

684 675 Sang Som?
Posted by: Dendritic


Whatever that is -- No.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:14 AM (mizYg)

685 Bourbon?
Posted by: buzzion

Nope-a-reeno.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:15 AM (mizYg)

686

683 Pisco???
Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic*


OMG SO CLOSE!!!!!!!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:16 AM (mizYg)

687 Cachaça???

Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic* at April 19, 2014 02:16 AM (AymDN)

688 663
Basic booze comes from fermenting sugars. These can come, as you
note, from Grains, Fruits, or Honey, but also from sugarcane, sugar
beets, potatoes, or -- in extreme cases -- mare's milk [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis ].



Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:03 AM (T1005)



Non-fermented drinks usually aren't made directly from sugarcane, sugar beets, or potatoes - compared to the three I listed.



Indeed, any source or sugar can be used, including mares milk and spit.



Also, jenkem, which was mentioned previously.

Posted by: The Ethanolic Hat *hic* at April 19, 2014 02:08 AM (AymDN)
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Interesting note on the "spit" -- saliva contains enzymes that crack starches into sugars. Thoroughly-chewed starchy food is almost all sugars before it hits the stomach, where bolted starchy food can still be relatively indigestible starches....which your gut fauna will then gleefully turn into methane.


But I digress -- for brewing / fermenting purposes, a certain amount of spit worked into the starchy mass before the yeastie-beasties get into it can do a lot to improve your yield. Typically, this was provided by consecrated virgin hotties in your tribe, so that you could quaff the result without going, "ewwww....it's like being tongued by Aunt Jennie."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:16 AM (T1005)

689 It's not that fermented stuff made with spit, is it?
Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic*


You mean Kava? (Maybe?)

No, and retch.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:16 AM (mizYg)

690 678 Tequila is INCORRECT, but DAY-UMMMMMMMM you are getting close!!!!!

okay, then run with mezcal
even the japs drink that

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 02:17 AM (krmE0)

691 687 Cachaça???
Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic* a


WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cachaça it is!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:18 AM (mizYg)

692 The simple names of marijuana indicate what may happen during your "buzz".

The first form was depicted within the wording and formulation of the question. Within the previous sentence.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 02:18 AM (lq3Ak)

693 691
687 Cachaça???

Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic* a



WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!





Cachaça it is!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:18 AM (mizYg)
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OK, fine -- WTF is it?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:19 AM (T1005)

694 Cachaça???
Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic* a

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cachaça it is!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:18 AM (mizYg)


Figures it'd be Brazilian, due to their population size.

Posted by: The Ethanolic ONT *hic* at April 19, 2014 02:19 AM (AymDN)

695 The final rankings:

1. Baijiu
2. Vodka
3. Cachaça

Take bows, all winners! Ten kajillion Internet points for all of you.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:20 AM (mizYg)

696 OK, fine -- WTF is it?


Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:19 AM (T1005)

rum made with fresh sugarcane

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:20 AM (bStrg)

697 to quote T: if its not Patron silver or better its not worth drinking

this is from a woman who drinks boones strawberry hill

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 02:20 AM (krmE0)

698 this is from a woman who drinks boones strawberry hill


You can take the hot chick out of Tennessee...

Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2014 02:22 AM (2wOaq)

699 OK, fine -- WTF is it?
Posted by: cthulhu


The simplest liquor of all -- and you alreayd gave the recipe:

Fermented pure raw sugar cane juice.

Note that "rum" MUST be made from molasses, the leftovers from sugar-processing, to be true rum. To make cachaça, you just squeeze a sugar cane and ferment it straight.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:22 AM (mizYg)

700 On a side note, the "ç" sounds like a "z"

Much like Açores is translated as Azores.

Posted by: O Chapéu Político at April 19, 2014 02:24 AM (AymDN)

701 I only have two points to offer. One for each correct answer.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 19, 2014 02:26 AM (lq3Ak)

702 The War On Standards Comes to College Debate [with comment by Paul] | Power Line http://www.powerlineblog.com/ archives/2014/04/the-war-on-standards-comes-to-college-debate.php

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:27 AM (ZPrif)

703 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cachaça

"Cachaça (Portuguese pronunciation: [kaˈʃasɐ]) is a distilled spirit made from sugarcane juice. Also known as aguardente, pinga, caninha or other names, it is the most popular distilled alcoholic beverage in Brazil.[1][2] Outside Brazil, cachaça is used almost exclusively as an ingredient in tropical drinks, with the caipirinha being the most famous cocktail.

Sugar production was mostly switched from Madeira Island to Brazil by the Portuguese in the 16th century. In Madeira Aguardente de cana is made by distilling sugar cane. The pot stills that make Aguardente de cana in Madeira were brought to Brazil to make what today is also called Cachaça.[4]

The distillation process dates back to 1532, when one of the Portuguese colonisers brought the first cuttings of sugar cane over to Brazil from Madeira.[5] Cachaça is mostly produced in Brazil, where, according to 2007 figures, 1.5 billion litres (390 million gallons) are consumed annually, compared with 15 million litres (4.0 million gallons) outside the country."

I don't have the industry report totals in front of me, but they stated that cachaça consumption outstripped whiskey and everything else except Vodka (Russian alcoholics drink constantly) and baijiu (Chinese don't rink so much, but there are 1.3 billion of them and counting).

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:27 AM (mizYg)

704 696
OK, fine -- WTF is it?




Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:19 AM (T1005)

rum made with fresh sugarcane


Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:20 AM (bStrg)
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Wow. The sugar market is more f***ed than I imagined. Enough of it is grown to not only provide all the raw sugar, molasses, CH sugar and rum in the world, but also to ferment for the #3 worldwide alcoholic beverage. And it's still price-controlled so that Castro can stay afloat and Floridian land-barons stay wealthy.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:27 AM (T1005)

705 Cause standards of logic, respect, facts and decency are too white and middle class so to hell with all that.

--
These days, an increasingly diverse group of participants has transformed debate competitions, mounting challenges to traditional form and content by incorporating personal experience, performance, and radical politics. These “alternative-style” debaters have achieved success, too, taking top honors at national collegiate tournaments over the past few years. …

On March 24, 2014 at the Cross Examination Debate Association (CEDA) Championships at Indiana University, two Towson University students, Ameena Ruffin and Korey Johnson, became the first African-American women to win a national college debate tournament, for which the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.

In the final round, Ruffin and Johnson squared off against Rashid Campbell and George Lee from the University of Oklahoma, two highly accomplished African-American debaters with distinctive dreadlocks and dashikis. Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “n**a authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format. At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “Fuck the time!” he yelled.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:29 AM (ZPrif)

706 pingas

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:27 AM (mizYg)


Fixed.

Posted by: Dr. Robotnik at April 19, 2014 02:29 AM (AymDN)

707 Note that "rum" MUST be made from molasses, the leftovers from sugar-processing, to be true rum. To make cachaça, you just squeeze a sugar cane and ferment it straight.)))

I'd be pissed at losing this game cause I was so close. But dam it is fun to Learn new stuff. Which happened in my searches after and the other guesses.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 19, 2014 02:30 AM (75hfB)

708 Wow. The sugar market is more f***ed than I imagined. Enough of it is grown to not only provide all the raw sugar, molasses, CH sugar and rum in the world, but also to ferment for the #3 worldwide alcoholic beverage. And it's still price-controlled so that Castro can stay afloat and Floridian land-barons stay wealthy.
Posted by: cthulhu


I think what they do in Brazil is use the shitty low-quality butt-ends of the sugar cane that otherwise might be discarded to make the cachaça. The "heart" of the cane is for granulated sugar, molasses and rum.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:31 AM (mizYg)

709 118 I like to keep things simple for Easter. You know, just some decorative eggs and such.
Posted by: Alexandra Feodorovna Romanov at April 18, 2014 09:48 PM

If you are interested in Russian history check out www.alexanderpalace.com.

Some nice knowledgeable folks there, IMO.

Posted by: The Farmer at April 19, 2014 02:35 AM (eBupg)

710 Atlantic article on the new "meta-debate" style winning the collegiate debate competitions
---

But other teams who have prepared for a traditional policy debate are frustrated when they encounter a meta-debate, or an alternative stylistic approach in competition. These teams say that the pedagogical goals of policy debate are not being met—and are even being undermined. Aaron Hardy, who coaches debate at Northwestern University, is concerned about where the field is headed. “We end up … with a large percentage of debates being devoted to arguing about the rules, rather than anything substantive,” he wrote on a CEDA message board last fall.

Indeed, to prevail using the new approach, students don’t necessarily have to develop high-level research skills or marshal evidence from published scholarship. They also might not need to have the intellectual acuity required for arguing both sides of a resolution. These skills—together with a non-confrontational presentation style—are considered crucial for success in fields like law and business.

..


To counter this trend, Hardy and his allies want to create a “policy only” space in which traditional standards for debate will be enforced.


14 schools expressed interest in sending debaters to Hardy’s proposed alternative tournament, scheduled to occur last month. But after word got out that a group of mostly white teams from elite universities were trying to form their own league, Hardy and his supporters were widely attacked on Facebook and other online forums. Ultimately the competition didn’t happen, purportedly because of logistical issues with the hotel venue. Nonetheless, Hardy wrote in an email that a “toxic climate” has precluded even “strong supporters of ‘policy debate’ from “publicly attach[ing] their name to anything that might get them called racist or worse.”

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:36 AM (ZPrif)

711 Cause standards of logic, respect, facts and decency are too white and middle class so to hell with all that.

--
These days, an increasingly diverse group of participants has transformed debate competitions, mounting challenges to traditional form and content by incorporating personal experience, performance, and radical politics. These “alternative-style” debaters have achieved success, too, taking top honors at national collegiate tournaments over the past few years. …

On March 24, 2014 at the Cross Examination Debate Association (CEDA) Championships at Indiana University, two Towson University students, Ameena Ruffin and Korey Johnson, became the first African-American women to win a national college debate tournament, for which the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.

In the final round, Ruffin and Johnson squared off against Rashid Campbell and George Lee from the University of Oklahoma, two highly accomplished African-American debaters with distinctive dreadlocks and dashikis. Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “n**a authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format. At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “Fuck the time!” he yelled.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:29 AM (ZPrif)


In other words, they won the debate be being all "transgressive" and basically shouting "raaacsit!"

It's the same type of "logic" that you would have heard in debating clubs 75 years ago in central and eastern Europe…

Posted by: You're all RAAAAAACIST!!1! at April 19, 2014 02:37 AM (AymDN)

712 It pays off in obscure knowledge to be friends with people who do public relations for the alcohol corporations!

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:37 AM (mizYg)

713 got my two rabbits for tomorrow's diner

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:38 AM (bStrg)

714 It pays off in obscure knowledge to be )))

Shorter "Part of the hoarde"

Posted by: Dendritic at April 19, 2014 02:39 AM (75hfB)

715 Shit. I haven't EVER tried two out of three of the world's top selling liquors. Where do I hand in my HQ ID card and T-shirt?

I am not worthy, and I'm supposed to be in bed. Fuckity.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 19, 2014 02:39 AM (cHZB7)

716 also got a goose

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:40 AM (bStrg)

717 708
Wow. The sugar market is more f***ed than I imagined. Enough of it is
grown to not only provide all the raw sugar, molasses, CH sugar and rum
in the world, but also to ferment for the #3 worldwide alcoholic
beverage. And it's still price-controlled so that Castro can stay afloat
and Floridian land-barons stay wealthy.

Posted by: cthulhu



I think what they do in Brazil is use the shitty low-quality
butt-ends of the sugar cane that otherwise might be discarded to make
the cachaça. The "heart" of the cane is for granulated sugar, molasses
and rum.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:31 AM (mizYg)
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No doubt -- but I was thinking: "staple crops -- wheat, corn, rice". They'd have enough acreage to put out some serious alcohol. But sugarcane? I was figuring that was a niche crop. Hell, in Brazil, I figured more acres would be devoted to pasturage than sugarcane. I understand that relatively minor tweaks in the world market for sugarcane allowed Russia to keep Cuba as a client state and are the true wealth of the Bacardi clan. Seems like something small and contained.....



......but #3 distilled beverage?!?!? There's more sugarcane around than I thought.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:41 AM (T1005)

718 The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:40 AM (bStrg)

tee hee ...

from whom?

Posted by: Adriiane... at April 19, 2014 02:42 AM (qoKTg)

719 Fresh sugar cane is delicious, btw. You chew it a bit, and spit out the pulp.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 19, 2014 02:42 AM (cHZB7)

720 got my two rabbits for tomorrow's diner

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:38 AM (bStrg)

also got a goose

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:40 AM (bStrg)


Goose is a Christmas thing.

Its: Easter Bunny, Thanksgiving Turkey, and Valentine's Day Beaver…

Posted by: Wynona's Big Brown Beaver at April 19, 2014 02:42 AM (AymDN)

721 Yeah, the debate rules are being changed/ignored so more black students who don't know anything can compete.

They say it's so it's not so white dominated. But tons of asians have done well in debate. Cause it used to be mainly about knowing lots of stuff and forming solid arguments. The asian kids didn't think knowing stuff and being able to reason logically and dispassionately about a topic was "white".

Idiocracy is us.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:43 AM (ZPrif)

722 Goose is a Christmas thing.



Its: Easter Bunny, Thanksgiving Turkey, and Valentine's Day Beaver…

Posted by: Wynona's Big Brown Beaver at April 19, 2014 02:42 AM (AymDN)

other than Thanksgiving, I always buy a goose for get togethers

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:44 AM (bStrg)

723 Wynona's Big Brown Beaver at April 19, 2014 02:42 AM (AymDN)

Celebrating Oppressive Eurocentric Holidays that force Wymyns into Heteronormative Hearth Spaces for energy wasting nonvegan cookingisms again ...

Posted by: Adriiane... at April 19, 2014 02:46 AM (qoKTg)

724 722
Goose is a Christmas thing.





Its: Easter Bunny, Thanksgiving Turkey, and Valentine's Day Beaver…



Posted by: Wynona's Big Brown Beaver at April 19, 2014 02:42 AM (AymDN)

other than Thanksgiving, I always buy a goose for get togethers


Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:44 AM (bStrg)
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Is it much different from turkey? Duck, for example, tends to be fattier.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:46 AM (T1005)

725 705 Cause standards of logic, respect, facts and decency are too white and middle class so to hell with all that.

--
These days, an increasingly diverse group of participants has transformed debate competitions, mounting challenges to traditional form and content by incorporating personal experience, performance, and radical politics. These “alternative-style” debaters have achieved success, too, taking top honors at national collegiate tournaments over the past few years. …

On March 24, 2014 at the Cross Examination Debate Association (CEDA) Championships at Indiana University, two Towson University students, Ameena Ruffin and Korey Johnson, became the first African-American women to win a national college debate tournament, for which the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.

In the final round, Ruffin and Johnson squared off against Rashid Campbell and George Lee from the University of Oklahoma, two highly accomplished African-American debaters with distinctive dreadlocks and dashikis. Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “n**a authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format. At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “Fuck the time!” he yelled.
Posted by: Costanza Defense

Now that's just f***ing sad. Where are these idiots ever gonna get a productive job?

Wait...the Obama administration? Yeah, they'd fit right in, sorry to say.

Posted by: The Farmer at April 19, 2014 02:46 AM (eBupg)

726 558
HOLY CRAP I just read the post about the LA Sheriffs spying from the sky -- wtf is wrong with these control freaks?!



A little mood music:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1B_pZC8aWU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNiie_zmSr8

Posted by: Anachronda, Domestic Terrorist at April 19, 2014 02:47 AM (U82Km)

727 "Idiocracy is us."

Only until there are no more idiots that can be invented. This world is getting very close to that line.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at April 19, 2014 02:47 AM (nkPV9)

728 Is it much different from turkey? Duck, for example, tends to be fattier.


Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:46 AM (T1005)

juicier and IMO better tasting

Posted by: The Dude at April 19, 2014 02:48 AM (bStrg)

729 Is it much different from turkey? Duck, for example, tends to be fattier.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 19, 2014 02:46 AM (T1005)


Mmmm, duck.

A nice Muscovy Duck with lip-smacking gravy can't be beat.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny tricking Elmer Fudd into thinking that its Duck Season at April 19, 2014 02:48 AM (AymDN)

730 719 Fresh sugar cane is delicious, btw. You chew it a bit, and spit out the pulp.
Posted by: GnuBreed


I used to LOVE doing that as a kid.

For reasons I still don't understand, my local supermarket growing up always had fresh 6-foot-long sugarcanes for sale in the produce department, for like 29¢ each. I'd buy one and spend days chewing it and spitting it out. Loved the stuff.

And yes, I had a LOT of cavities. I dreaded visits to the dentist.

Now that I think about it, there were a lot of folks from Louisiana descended from sharecroppers who had emigrated to California to work in the shipyards in WWII living nearby, and shopped in that store, and the clever manager probably stocked the sugarcane as a sort of nostalgia item for them. The only other people I ever saw buying them were old black ladies.

Posted by: zombie at April 19, 2014 02:50 AM (mizYg)

Friday Night Open Thread

Worst ever avalanche on Mount Everest kills 12 guides, with four people still unaccounted for.

Why so many guides and few climbers? Well... because Sherpas are really the climbers, and every season, they prepare the climb with predeployed supplies and equipment (and checking ropes and such) for the "climbing season."

With peak season just days away [I see what you did there -- ace], Sherpas and guides are busy preparing for the trek up the highest peak in the world.

"The Sherpa guides were carrying up equipment and other necessities for climbers when the disaster happened," a spokesman for Nepal's Tourism Ministry, Mohan Krishna Sapkota, told the AFP news agency.


Before a climber begins the assent, hired Sherpas set up camps at higher altitudes and fix routes and ropes on the slopes above.

Of course climbing Mount Everest is a serious achievement for anyone.

Still, you know. It's always strange to celebrate a climber when Sherpas are going up the mountain all the time. As their day job. Let's face it, they're the climbers. The "climbers" are really the luggage.

Don't ever call them socialist, but it just so happens that David Axelrod has been hired by a socialist candidate for UK prime minister.

The British Labour Party has appointed David Axelrod as a strategic adviser to Ed Miliband's 2015 campaign. Axelrod, who went on to serve as a senior adviser to President Obama after acting as an adviser on the president's 2008 campaign, will reportedly be paid a six-figure sum for his work.

These government-connected socialists do live well, don't they?

You probably won't believe this, but Politico seems to have a crush on Hillary Clinton.

Incidentally, while the left celebrates Hillary's soon-to-be electorally-useful Grandmother Status, they also attack Drudge for the "ageist" attack of calling her a grandma.

Which is what they're doing. Oh but right, they're talking up how that will make her the Best President Ever so it's different.

Oh, and just two weeks after NBC warned the country about the dangers of billionaires spending wads of money to influence elections, Mike Bloomberg appeared on NBC to publicize his donation of $50 million to, get this, "grassroots organizations," the media calls them, to fight gun rights.

NBC forgot to ask Michael Bloomberg about the perils of billionaires buying elections.

Ah well, I'm sure it just slipped their minds.

Breaking: Obama's a nasty little prick.

@RDBrewer4 sent me this audio of Quentin Tarantino's commentary for True Romance, specifically the "Sicilian speech" scene. (Oh, yeah, he didn't direct it, but he provides commentary as the writer.) Here's the part about the Sicilian speech, but I've listened to most of the whole thing, and I think it's a very good commentary.

Tarantino is not as annoying as he usually is, and he basically uses the commentary to tell the early story of his career (he wrote, in order, True Romance, Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction within a few years). It's pretty interesting, so long as you like any of those movies.

He also makes a few interesting observations, like his idea that a movie should be so autobiographically revealing about yourself that if you watch it a few years later, you should be embarrassed at how much of yourself you've exposed. He says he did this with his fantasy/juvenile portrayal of what an awesome girlfriend would be like with the Alabama character (he had never had a girlfriend at that point, and he was 25, so his idea of a girlfriend was entirely speculative and hypothetical) and I guess the Clarence character, who is a Tarantino Mary Sue.

So, if you thought, "Gee this Alabama character sure seems like an idealized wish-fulfillment creation of a romantically-frustrated arrested-development 25-year-old juvenile who knows almost nothing about actual women," Yup. You nailed it.

Worth a listen.

By the way, speaking of Bunnies, did you know people actually put rabbits through show competitions, including agility courses?

They do. There are a lot of videos like this on YouTube.


Posted by: Ace at 07:12 PM



Comments

1 Yay! Open thread!

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 07:14 PM (doBIb)

2 Love the blog. Keep up the good work... Any thoughts on if Rand will decide to still run for President in 2016, even though the KY State House shot down the bill that would let him be on the ballot for both the senate and the presidency?

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at April 18, 2014 07:14 PM (ZnhLM)

3 Bunnies are amazing

Posted by: fabio at April 18, 2014 07:15 PM (uxJMc)

4 Ace, read Abominable by Dan Simmons

Posted by: fabio at April 18, 2014 07:17 PM (uxJMc)

5 Those are Scandi bunnies. Just so you know.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 07:18 PM (oMKp3)

6 "Breaking: Obama's a nasty little prick."

Why yes. Yes, he is.

He's that kid in class who would start shit...and then say "What! It wasn't me!"

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:19 PM (fAjDo)

7 Read "Into Thin Air" a few years ago. That'll cure you of a "climb Everest" fetish.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 18, 2014 07:21 PM (1Hxgp)

8 Our local community TV station used to show these really silly amateur dog competitions. The dogs were so dumb, they couldn't do the simplest things. I remember one event, where they were supposed to fish floating frisbies out of a kiddie pool. One dog just climbed in and lay down in the water. I love these offbeat animal competitions.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 18, 2014 07:22 PM (FkH4y)

9 NBC forgot to ask Michael Bloomberg about the perils of billionaires buying elections.
===========================
I guess George Soros was unavailable for comment.

Posted by: mrp at April 18, 2014 07:22 PM (JBggj)

10 How can you tell if a bunny is having a good time?

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 07:24 PM (8c12T)

11 Those bunnies suck. I always beat them.

Posted by: a tortoise at April 18, 2014 07:24 PM (08jH8)

12 There's good eatin' on one a those.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 07:26 PM (JS0vr)

13 Ehhh, what's up doc?

Posted by: Bugs at April 18, 2014 07:27 PM (nsOJa)

14 Bunnies!

Posted by: Lauren at April 18, 2014 07:29 PM (hFL/3)

15 Our doggy provides daily speed & agility training to the yard's resident bunnies!

Posted by: JeanQ at April 18, 2014 07:30 PM (82lr7)

16 Those bunny jumping people are crazy, playing with food like that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 07:30 PM (0AKks)

17 We had a pet rabbit for a while. It's impossible to guess what they are thinking. With dogs, at least you can figure out their mood. With cats you can get at least within the ballpark.

With the bunny it would just spazz out or just sit and not move even when we took it out of the cage.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2014 07:31 PM (ujux6)

18 Did those rabbits train at the Bunny Ranch?

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 18, 2014 07:31 PM (eAJwE)

19 7 Read "Into Thin Air" a few years ago. That'll cure you of a "climb Everest" fetish.
Posted by: tu3031 at April 18, 2014 07:21 PM (1Hxgp)


Yeah, I have an irrational fear of mountain climbing. It's irrational since I have no plans to ever climb one. It seems as if it gets really boring. The view is the same - white mountain tops. Not only do you freeze your ass off and are oxygen starved, but you get diarrhea, too.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 07:32 PM (8c12T)

20 Just took a problem raccoon out of the tanning solution, you know bunnies are much easier to skin.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 18, 2014 07:32 PM (L02KD)

21 If Mitt Romney cared about his country, those Sherpas would still be alive.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 07:32 PM (ZshNr)

22 Bunny on a spit. I wonder if that's better than corgi on a spit?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 07:32 PM (HVff2)

23 Islam's Funniest Home Videos linked in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 07:33 PM (hn5v5)

24 Fuckin Koch Brothers!!!

Posted by: Mike Bloomberg at April 18, 2014 07:35 PM (nsQhi)

25 What about Obama's nasty little prick?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 18, 2014 07:35 PM (AaZet)

26
When I traveled to Berlin in the early 90s, I could not help but notice all the bunnies. There were every where you looked. A few years ago, I read about a documentary called The Bunnies of Berlin. It seems that the proliferation of bunnies is due to the wall providing a predator free sanctuary for them. So, the bunnies lived long and prospered -- at least until 1989.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 07:35 PM (8c12T)

27 "Mama, grandma smells like booze..."
"It's OK baby, grandma's still sad about losing to Jeb Bush."

Posted by: Beto at April 18, 2014 07:35 PM (/vO0r)

28 What about Obama's nasty little prick?

I think he got shot while trying to beat up some white hispanik dude.

Posted by: JeanQ at April 18, 2014 07:36 PM (82lr7)

29 Bunny on a spit. I wonder if that's better than corgi on a spit?

Corgi! Corgi! Corgi!

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 07:37 PM (2hTlI)

30
These government-connected socialists do live well, don't they?

I was just thinking today how all the "leaders" that call for socialism and the unfairness of capitalism and the wealth gap, sure are the wealth gappiest on top. It pays to be in the Politburo.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 07:37 PM (BrAHD)

31 A guy out here was raising rabbits for meat and his GF got upset when it was time to process them. She really didn't like the unborn bunny pops on a stick.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 18, 2014 07:37 PM (L02KD)

32 28 What about Obama's nasty little prick?

I think he got shot while trying to beat up some white hispanik dude.
Posted by: JeanQ at April 18, 2014 07:36 PM (82lr7)

I chuckled at that

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 07:37 PM (HVff2)

33 Easy to be a commie...when you're rich.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 18, 2014 07:38 PM (nsQhi)

34 Don't forget about me!
Everybody always talking about Soros and Bloomberg.
I can be a left-wing billionaire fascist prick too, you know!

And I get fuckin' results!

Keystone Pipeline, you might have heard of it.

I say jump, Obama says how high.

Tom "Say My Name" Steyer

Posted by: Tom Steyer at April 18, 2014 07:38 PM (ZPrif)

35 I gotta say it.


I love this fucking blog.

Bunny competitions!

BUNNY!

COMPETITIONS!

Posted by: Kreplach at April 18, 2014 07:38 PM (Xkr8I)

36 When I traveled to Berlin in the early 90s, I could not help but notice all the bunnies. There were every where you looked. A few years ago, I read about a documentary called The Bunnies of Berlin. It seems that the proliferation of bunnies is due to the wall providing a predator free sanctuary for them. So, the bunnies lived long and prospered -- at least until 1989.

There are deer near here that swim 2 miles to get to an island where hunting is not allowed. Then when the season is over they swim back.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 07:39 PM (2hTlI)

37 This post is begging for some Kate Upton Easter Vids, Ace.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:40 PM (KgFhV)

38 Bunnies?
Long stroy short
Guys dog brings home dead bunny from neighbors back yard.
Guy cleans up bunny and puts it back in cage.
Neighbor comes over couple days later to have a beer.
Is freaking out about bunny he buried got back in cage.

Posted by: Beto at April 18, 2014 07:40 PM (/vO0r)

39 Gee, isn't it fucking hilarious how the MFM will celebrate Cankles being a grandmother now. In their world view, she's not shit right now -- they need to wait 'til the baby fetus clump of cells is born before she's actually a grandmother.

Posted by: a tortoise at April 18, 2014 07:40 PM (08jH8)

40 Is this it? Is Ace gone? I hate when he leaves without saying good bye. He should say:

Goodnight, EC!
Goodnight, fabio!
Goodnight, Nick!
Goodnight, grammie!
Goodnight, wheatie!
Goodnight, tu!
Goodnight, Mabuse!
Goodnight, mrp!
Goodnight, bitter!
Goodnight, tortoise!
Goodnight, mike!
Goodnight, bugs!
Goodnight, Lauren!
Goodnight, Jean!
etc, etc, ...

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 07:41 PM (8c12T)

41 A guy out here was raising rabbits for meat and his GF got upset when it was time to process them.

I'm curious if anyone knows how common it is to raise rabbits for food in the US. I know it used to be very common, but now?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 07:42 PM (2hTlI)

42 I am literally, not figuratively, the only person who gathers oysters from a certain rock formation. If I skip a year, or the weather is shitty when I get there, I get twice as many the next year.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 07:42 PM (ZshNr)

43 I be bett'r at skinnin' a rabbit than thee!

Posted by: osha at April 18, 2014 07:42 PM (hn5v5)

44 Why is every other pet rabbit named 'Taffy'?

Is it the incessant chewing?

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:42 PM (KgFhV)

45
You know Hillary climbed Mt. Everest while taking sniper fire.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 07:42 PM (BrAHD)

46 Those are really cute bunnies.

The bunnies that graze in my yard aren't cute like that.
They're rangy and wild and have long ears that stick up...but they eat the dandelions and other weeds, so it's all good.

"She's 2½ years old...and she really loves yumping."
--- Said the blonde chick at 0:58

"She really loves to yump."

Hah!

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:43 PM (fAjDo)

47 bunny thoughts:

*sex*
*poop*
*chew*
*cower*
*sex*
*poop*
*sex*
*run*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 07:43 PM (JS0vr)

48 What we need with this post is some 'taters.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at April 18, 2014 07:43 PM (KgFhV)

49 It seems that the proliferation of bunnies is due to the wall providing
a predator free sanctuary for them. So, the bunnies lived long and
prospered -- at least until 1989.
=====

Bunnies frolicking in the minefields. I guess the fox and dogs weighed too much.

Posted by: mrp at April 18, 2014 07:44 PM (JBggj)

50 I am literally, not figuratively, the only person who gathers oysters from a certain rock formation. If I skip a year, or the weather is shitty when I get there, I get twice as many the next year.

Are you allowed to SCUBA for them? I know you have to snorkel for Abalone around here.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 07:44 PM (2hTlI)

51 I hate fucking bunnies.

Posted by: A Field Mouse what got bopped on the head at April 18, 2014 07:45 PM (KgFhV)

52 45
You know Hillary climbed Mt. Everest while taking sniper fire.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 07:42 PM (BrAHD)

While standing by her man dealing with a great right wing conspiracy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 07:45 PM (HVff2)

53 "I'm curious if anyone knows how common it is to raise rabbits for food in the US. I know it used to be very common, but now?"

I have a friend who does it. Of course, she also raises pigs and chickens and quail and I think a few goats.

Posted by: Lauren at April 18, 2014 07:45 PM (hFL/3)

54 http://is.gd/LmSu8W

should be pic of Baby Bigby's first birthday party

but, kindle so who knows

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 18, 2014 07:45 PM (Cq0oW)

55 "Breaking: Obama's a nasty little prick."

I had read that article at the link earlier today, and I found this absolutely wonderful bit of liberal indignation in the comments section:

"Look, I know that you conservative freeloaders don't want the ride to
end. You get sick, go to the emergency room for treatment you can't pay
for and the hospital passes on the cost to people like me, whom you
despise. Why not simply admit that you want 'free stuff' when it comes
to healthcare, and frankly everything else, as you make up the majority
of the welfare rolls, get most of the foodstamps...in short are up to
your muzzles in the public trough you bleat about..except when it comes
to yourselves because well, you 'earned' your free stuff."

So, got that? Conservatives, according to this liberal, "make up the majority of the welfare rolls".

Thunderation! I've been on the wrong track all along! Why, here I had thought that my home state of Commiefornia, with 13% of the national population and one-third of the nation's welfare cases, was a liberal hellhole.

No, I'm wrong. These freeloaders infesting CA are actually... drumroll... a bunch of stealth CONSERVATIVES. Who have voted to turn California into a one-party Democratic state because, um, something something.

::: vague dismissive flapping of hands :::

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 07:45 PM (noWW6)

56 Few climb K-2. That's a serious killer mountain without Sherpas.

Everest 7.5% chance of death.

K-2 26.5% chance of death.

Annapurna 38% chance of death.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 18, 2014 07:46 PM (u82oZ)

57 We're allowed to do anything, but the oysters cling to rocks, and our beach is the one with the most boulders out on the flats, where oysters find homes of convenience.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 07:47 PM (ZshNr)

58 Of course, she also raises pigs and chickens and quail and I think a few goats.

My in-laws have a whole bunch of quail on their land. Yummy little birds, they are.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 07:47 PM (2hTlI)

59 tortoise it is interesting isn't it

So It's a Baby! celebrations! BABY showers, oh the fun and anticipation!
although
Hillary can turn on a dime and say It's a parasite kill it!

and no one blinks

Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 07:48 PM (nqBYe)

60 I'm curious if anyone knows how common it is to raise rabbits for food in the US. I know it used to be very common, but now?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 07:42 PM (2hTlI)


I heard part of some NPR program. The woman said she was a writer who lived in NYC, lost her job, and decided to go off to France to learn how to raise, butcher and cook bunnies. She came back and open a restaurant in Portland where her bunny business thrived. She decided to offer a class on bunny butchering and it filled up quickly. Apparently there is a big interest in it. Then something happened where a lot of bunnies were rescued and she and other people took them and then they were sued and it was a big mess. Then I got to where I was going. The end.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 07:48 PM (8c12T)

61 While standing by her man dealing with a great right wing conspiracy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Borger's got to be married to someone in the Whitehouse for her reward nest-ce pas?

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 18, 2014 07:48 PM (/vO0r)

62 By "allowed", I meant "Can get away with."

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 07:48 PM (ZshNr)

63 "Yummy little birds, they are."

My sister just started raising them too. Haven't tried them yet, but I'm looking forward to it.

Posted by: Lauren at April 18, 2014 07:49 PM (hFL/3)

64 K-2 26.5% chance of death.

One in four chance of death. Pass.

Annapurna 38% chance of death.

Holy crap! More than one in three!

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 07:49 PM (2hTlI)

65 anyway back to the grind , or in other words kitchen.

Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 07:50 PM (nqBYe)

66 Olympus Mons: 0% chance of death

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 18, 2014 07:50 PM (30eLQ)

67 Olympus Mons: 0% chance of death

Because you can't get to it?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 07:51 PM (2hTlI)

68 Quail are delicious. Hungarian Partridge are my favorite little bird, though.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:51 PM (KgFhV)

69 Mons Veneris

100% chance of fun.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 07:52 PM (JS0vr)

70 65 anyway back to the grind , or in other words kitchen.
Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 07:50 PM (nqBYe)

Would you toast my sammich, pretty please?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 07:52 PM (HVff2)

71 I am a decendant of Sherpas.

Posted by: elizabeth warren at April 18, 2014 07:52 PM (WCnJW)

72 "I'm curious if anyone knows how common it is to raise rabbits for food in the US. I know it used to be very common, but now?"

Even the obsessive foodies around here don't do much by way of rabbit.

I think the "pet factor" puts many off.

Actually, though, rabbits are an extremely efficient way of turning vegetable matter into healthy animal protein. They have come out on top in studies of which animals would be suitable for rearing in a self-sufficient space colony.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 07:52 PM (noWW6)

73 where oysters find homes of convenience.

Until you kill them with butter and maybe a cracker and maybe some hot sauce you evil evil eater of stuff.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 07:52 PM (BrAHD)

74 54 http://is.gd/LmSu8W

should be pic of Baby Bigby's first birthday party


Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich

----------

He's a doll! ...Well, underneath all that icing. Heh.
That young man will be a heartbreaker someday.

Very wise to let him do that outside...that way you can hose off the highchair afterwards.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:53 PM (fAjDo)

75 At least oysters don't have faces.

Unless you've seen Alice In Wonderland.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 07:53 PM (JS0vr)

76 I would like to be the first to assert, in a settled-sciency-kinda-way, that the avalanche on Everest was undoubtedly caused by global...uh...I mean "climate change".



And Bush.

Posted by: Al the Capitalist Whore Gore at April 18, 2014 07:53 PM (tTMRX)

77
Trust me furball, I've done a LOT of bunny-jumping.

Posted by: Hugh Hefner at April 18, 2014 07:54 PM (TIIx5)

78 You can get wabbit at French restaurants, usually in stew. C'est tres bien!

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 18, 2014 07:55 PM (30eLQ)

79 Posted by: Hugh Hefner at April 18, 2014 07:54 PM (TIIx5)

Somehow, I don't think so for the last few years.

Ain't you dead yet?

They have to use carjacks to get you up and running.

They only know you're excited when you groan AND slobber.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 07:56 PM (JS0vr)

80 This year I hope to set a record. Three minutes from covered by seawater, attached to a rock, to sliding down my gullet with tabasco and lemon, and maybe some horseradish. I think we've done it in 5 minutes before, but this June I have a crack oyster team headed up North...

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 07:57 PM (ZshNr)

81 Rabbit Fricassee

First skin the rabbit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 07:57 PM (JS0vr)

82 I tried farming chickens but they die when planted

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 18, 2014 07:57 PM (/vO0r)

83 Rabbits?
Go long on Goat futures. Increasing immigration, increasing demand for goat meat. You can google it.

Posted by: Smith at April 18, 2014 07:58 PM (4+AtT)

84 I've never been hungry enough to eat Rabbit.

Hope I never have to.
But it would be easier to eat the wild, scraggly kind...rather than the cute kind, like the ones in the video.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:58 PM (fAjDo)

85 Everest snowslide obviously fracking.

And Bush.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 18, 2014 07:58 PM (Q6g1g)

86 There used to be pretty good bunny hunting right off the 118 fwy behind Chatsworth circa 1979. An old private recreational area abandoned by Rockwell or some aerospace contractor. Remains of trap houses, target ranges evident. Running water, tho sulphureous,from springs. Bunny heaven. Not posted. Good times, good times. Now a residential development. Near the Santa Susana Field Laboratory, of partial meltdown fame. No giant mutant buns, tho.

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 18, 2014 07:58 PM (uopHF)

87 Everest is overly crowded with literally lines of climbers queued up during the climbing season. This increases the risk of disastrous accidents. The way up the mountain strewn with trash, empty oxygen tanks and human feces. And there's dead bodies up there too. I don't like to play the "humans have ruined mother nature card" but Everest should have been left alone after Sir Hillary climbed it.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 18, 2014 07:59 PM (LiHKo)

88

Eh, what gives, doc?

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at April 18, 2014 07:59 PM (BrAHD)

89 thanks wheatie. been quite the ride though LOL

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 18, 2014 08:00 PM (Cq0oW)

90 So does rabbit racing have the bunnies chase a stuffed greyhound around a track?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 08:00 PM (hn5v5)

91 84 I've never been hungry enough to eat Rabbit.

Rabbit is tasty, domestic better than wild. But both are good

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 08:00 PM (HVff2)

92 No giant mutant buns, tho.

Ever seen a German Grey? They can get up to 22lbs, non-mutated!

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 08:01 PM (2hTlI)

93 Hey, an ONT early enough I can actually get in on! Even though I'm probably about 100, and will have to go back and read the earlier comments. Anyway, a happy and holy Passover or Easter to our Jewish and Christian Moron/ettes.

Posted by: Empire1 at April 18, 2014 08:01 PM (6jjp8)

94 I tried farming chickens but they die when planted.

Just plant the feet next time.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 08:02 PM (2hTlI)

95 So does rabbit racing have the bunnies chase a stuffed greyhound around a track?


Posted by: andy
--------------------

A little Jimmy Carter doll.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 08:02 PM (aDwsi)

96 My first girlfriend had a rabbit for a pet. It's two bottom teeth just kept growing, and wouldn't stop. You had to snip them off with a pair of dikes every so often to prevent them from growing up through the roof of the mouth & into the brain.
Guess who got that nasty job?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 18, 2014 08:02 PM (vztUc)

97 Used to go out around the fields east of Chino and Yorba Linda and shoot rabbits. Farmers were happy to let us.

Jack rabbits, coneys, hundreds of the buggers.

Used to hunt them at night it was like a scene from Gremlins.

They literally covered the ground. Just point and shoot. You'd hit something.

Lots of small hills where they nested so no worries about collateral damage.

Like a video game.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:02 PM (JS0vr)

98 This year I hope to set a record.

Ohhh man they are good fresh like that.

Nothing wrong with rabbit meat, domestic rabbits are nice and tender, taste even more like chicken than real chicken.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 18, 2014 08:04 PM (L02KD)

99 The way up the mountain strewn with trash, empty oxygen tanks and human feces. And there's dead bodies up there too.

Lots of dead bodies. So much so that when they're filming documentaries they have to plan their shots to avoid having them in the background.

Some are even well-known landmarks, like green boots guy.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 08:04 PM (2hTlI)

100 Heh heh heh.

Shhhhh! I'm hunting wabbit.

*creep* *creep* *sneak*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:04 PM (JS0vr)

101 Time to go read some of the other light weight blogs. See you morons later

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 08:05 PM (HVff2)

102 If it were truly a 'good Friday', that douchebag Hairy Reid would have suffered a fatal heart attack today!

Posted by: Dr. NO NO at April 18, 2014 08:05 PM (QQTwW)

103 We had rabbit for Easter dinner a couple times when I was a kid.

...in case you were wondering whether I was warped *before* I started hanging out with you lot...

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 18, 2014 08:05 PM (SUKHu)

104 You had to snip them off with a pair of dikes ...

Tell me more.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at April 18, 2014 08:05 PM (2hTlI)

105 Our doggy provides daily speed agility training to the yard's resident bunnies!

Bunnies have nitrous.

Oddly the snowshoe hares at the upstate MN fishing cabin don't recognize my cat as a threat. She's brought home a couple of young ones. 8# kitteh mouth carrying 3#bunny like a leopard.

Lake is still frozen
http://tinyurl.com/2eey9su

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 08:06 PM (DL2i+)

106 Kinky bunny porn. Bunny humping a balloon.

http://youtu.be/_F3tRDLQbRA

Posted by: Buzzion at April 18, 2014 08:07 PM (qSXr2)

107 Bunnies are like dogs; they'll dry hump anything.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:07 PM (JS0vr)

108 Used to go out around the fields east of Chino and Yorba Linda...

That's the one right by Placenta, right?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 08:08 PM (2hTlI)

109 You had to snip them off with a pair of dikes every so often to prevent
them from growing up through the roof of the mouth into the brain.

Guess who got that nasty job?

One of the lesbians I hope.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 08:08 PM (hn5v5)

110 Bunnies are like dogs; they'll dry hump anything.


Posted by: Bitter
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I've noticed that the woodchucks in the backyard never turn their backs on the bunnies.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 08:09 PM (aDwsi)

111 Had rabbit once, as a gift from a local hunter. It had a fishy taste I really didn't like.

Posted by: Empire1 at April 18, 2014 08:09 PM (6jjp8)

112 86 There used to be pretty good bunny hunting right off the 118 fwy behind Chatsworth circa 1979. An old private recreational area abandoned by Rockwell or some aerospace contractor. Remains of trap houses, target ranges evident. Running water, tho sulphureous,from springs. Bunny heaven. Not posted. Good times, good times. Now a residential development. Near the Santa Susana Field Laboratory, of partial meltdown fame. No giant mutant buns, tho.
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 18, 2014 07:58 PM (uopHF)


I thought the ground was contaminated in that area.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 08:10 PM (8c12T)

113 "Tarantino is not as annoying as he usually is, and he basically uses the commentary to tell the early story of his career (he wrote, in order, True Romance, Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction within a few years). It's pretty interesting, so long as you like any of those movies."

He also wrote "Natural Born Killers" during that time.

Tarantino's kind of weird about commentaries. He won't do them for his own, but he will for other people's films. He did "Hot Fuzz," "Hostel," "Switchblade Sisters," "From Dusk Till Dawn," and a couple of others.

Posted by: Synnerman at April 18, 2014 08:10 PM (IsFVF)

114 About the Everest thing. I've read that there actually is only a period of about two weeks a year that a climb to the summit is possible. As I am one of the climate 'deniers' who think we are slowly slipping into another of our regularly scheduled Ice Ages, it seems entirely possible to me that the 'window of opportunity' to scale Everest is now measured in hours, not weeks.

Perhaps the Sherpas should give Al Gore all of the benefit of the doubt he deserves, which is none. He is an insufferable asshole, full of pomp, signifying nothing other then his total disregard for actual climate science. It's a damn shame they had to lose their lives.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 08:11 PM (oGrEy)

115 A little further east nearer Riverside.

It's been a long time so I'm not real clear on the exact location as I didn't drive, plus I am sure where we went is probably filled with houses or something.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:11 PM (JS0vr)

116 I hope some of you were able to watch the Falcon 9 launch this afternoon. Although the weather was a concern at first, it cleared up enough to allow a launch.

It was pretty much flawless, except for a column of dirty rainwater in the flame trench that rose up and splashed the rocket at ignition. That caused a few hearts to seize up, since that has not been seen before and it looked like something had gone wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65zDaDSvIww

SpaceX also released video of the first test flight of the F9R test vehicle, sometimes knows as Grasshopper 2. It will be able to fly higher and faster than the original Grasshopper, and will be used to simulate landings of the first stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjWqQPWmsY

Oh, right: Today's Falcon 9 launch saw the rocket equipped with landing legs for the first time. The retrograde burn after stage separation went well, but I haven't heard anything about the landing burn. This was just a test over the ocean, not an actual attempt to recover the first stage.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 08:11 PM (sdi6R)

117 Not just Crane Lake, DaveA.
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/the-big-rink.html

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 08:12 PM (hn5v5)

118 99 -

I call b.s. on the "dead bodies laying all around" until somebody has the guts to show the video of said dead bodies instead of trying to avoid them.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 08:15 PM (BeSEI)

119 Damn. Now the only thing between me and outer space is winning the lottery.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:15 PM (JS0vr)

120 The Sherpas are just employing economies of scale. You act like there's summit the matter with that.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:16 PM (MKpBT)

121 The retrograde burn after stage separation went well, but I haven't heard anything about the landing burn.

And just like that, a tweet from Elon:

"Data upload from tracking plane shows landing in Atlantic was good! Several boats enroute through heavy seas."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/457307742495993856

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

122 It's easy to forget that prior to becoming Agent Cockholster Q. Tarantino was a young genius....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 08:17 PM (TE35l)

123 Not just Crane Lake, DaveA.

1st freighter of the season just made it up the St. Lawrence to Indiana Harbor.

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 08:17 PM (DL2i+)

124 I knew I could count on you all for that... even with a sparse Friday evening crew.

Pretty sure the dykes had their own "Rabbit," though.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 18, 2014 08:20 PM (vztUc)

125 I remember a bunch of small rocky hills (maybe 80-100 ft elev. tops) that were all around out there. Surrounded by flat ground and cultivated fields.

Some had roads you could drive into from the main road and others didn't. From what the guys I was with said, the farmers pretty much couldn't cultivate up to the hills as they were too rocky. The Rabbits used them as Bunny Central and at night attacked the fields. (think they were stoop crops) so the farmers were okay with anyone driving in and shooting them. Long as you didn't leave a mess, you could camp out there for a day or so too.

That was back in '67 and I haven't been there since.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:20 PM (JS0vr)

126 I call b.s. on the "dead bodies laying all around" until somebody has the guts to show the video of said dead bodies instead of trying to avoid them.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 08:15 PM (BeSEI)


google/ bing it

Andy or Mat had in an ONT a few years ago

Posted by: Obama suck butholes at April 18, 2014 08:21 PM (zk/bH)

127 118 99 -

Do a basic google search. There's an estimated 200 bodies- many of which are on the main path (like "Green Boots"). Some are even used as directional indicators.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 18, 2014 08:21 PM (LiHKo)

128 Chuck Hagle or Joe Biden.

Lets debate which has more stoopid?

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 08:22 PM (zk/bH)

129 If they are going to regulate the number of ascents, would that be a man-made climb it change?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:22 PM (MKpBT)

130 True about the bodies on Everest.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 08:23 PM (ZshNr)

131 Chuck Hagle or Joe Biden.

Lets debate which has more stoopid?

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 08:22 PM (zk/bH)


*****

Biden is like the O-negative of stupidity- a universal stupidity donor.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:24 PM (MKpBT)

132 I call b.s. on the "dead bodies laying all around" until somebody has the guts to show the video of said dead bodies instead of trying to avoid them.

***

It's true.

There is much too much danger in trying to haul them back down. They have given nicknames to some.

There are reports of how some died with strangers by their side and, unfortunately, stories of those who died alone because other climbers were so determined to peak that they couldn't be deterred.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 08:24 PM (DmNpO)

133 True about the bodies on Everest.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 08:23 PM (ZshNr)
^^^^^^ This^^^^^^.
They cannot be retrieved as they cannot fly up there and they cannot be carried out. Just moving at that altitude takes all you got.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 18, 2014 08:25 PM (jucos)

134 The Sherpas only let close family members assist in a given expedition- a form of Nepaltism.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:25 PM (MKpBT)

135 128 Chuck Hagle or Joe Biden.

Lets debate which has more stoopid?
Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 08:22 PM (zk/bH)

That's a crapton of stupid.

I vote Patty Murray (who outwitted Paul Ryan).

Posted by: Seems legit at April 18, 2014 08:26 PM (Q6g1g)

136 And here is the full SpaceX webcast. Liftoff occurs at 39:59, although there are several segments showing the SpaceX factory.

There are also closeup shots of the rocket showing the retracted landing legs.

And some beautiful footage of Dragon separation near the end, taken from the second stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od-lON4bTyQ

I love how modern rockets are studded with cheap, disposable digital videocameras. I used to watch launches in the Golden Age of the 60s and 70s, and we never got to see these live rocketcam views.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 08:27 PM (sdi6R)

137 71 I am a decendant of Sherpas.

Yea, well I'm a decedent of very scary dudes.

Oh, and unlike you, I can prove it.

Posted by: Princess Märtha Louise of Norway, Genuine Viking Princess (with the papers and DNA to prove it) at April 18, 2014 08:27 PM (1mtKP)

138 Everybody says it's true. I'm saying, I need to see the video proof. Words mean nothing.

Jeez people. This is the internet. I didn't invent the rules.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 08:27 PM (BeSEI)

139 There are reports of how some died with strangers by their side and, unfortunately, stories of those who died alone because other climbers were so determined to peak that they couldn't be deterred.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 08:24 PM (DmNpO)


that is the thing about high mountain climbers it is almost every man for himself.

I've climbed the Grand Teton a few times but have no interest for the 8,000 meter peaks

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 08:27 PM (zk/bH)

140 The only thing Biden is ready to debate is how many crayons he can shove up his nose.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 18, 2014 08:28 PM (oFCZn)

141 The Nepalese consider Mount Everest sacred, and do not want it to become a graveyard. Many parents of those who have perished have asked for the bodies to be left as they were when they died, but this is against Nepalese law. As soon as a body can be reached for retrieval, it is and then is brought down for identification and burial. Those too high for retrieval will have stone tombs (called cairns) constructed around the corpses to shield them from the elements and the view of other climbers. A few corpses located on shallow ledges were rolled off to be buried in the snow below, away from the trail.

http://sometimes-interesting.com/2011/06/29/over-200-dead-bodies-on-mount-everest/

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 08:28 PM (8c12T)

142 I believe Obama is head stoop. No contest. Jarrett just hands the dope something to read.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 18, 2014 08:29 PM (Q6g1g)

143 There are photos, there are books. Might have to log off and visit a bookstore to find them, but I assure you that they exist.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 08:29 PM (ZshNr)

144 Sherpa-sherpa-sherpa

"NOAH!"

Sherpa-sherpa-sherpa

"IT'S THE LORD, NOAH"


"Riggghhht!"


Sherpa-sherpa-sherpa


"I WANT YOU TO BUILD AN ARK"


"Riggghhht! What's an ark?"

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:30 PM (MKpBT)

145 What they don't tell you about the bunny contests is that the judges eat the under-performing bunnies and mate the top performing bunnies to birth "super bunnies", .

Posted by: Thrawn at April 18, 2014 08:30 PM (WlWt+)

146 Prove Everest exists. I've never seen it. Have you?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 18, 2014 08:30 PM (jucos)

147 The number of bodies they can't retrieve are eventually going to add up.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 08:31 PM (8c12T)

148 Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:22 PM (MKpBT)

Report immediately to the Chief Torturer and have your ears trimmed.

That was not punny.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:31 PM (JS0vr)

149 >>What about Obama's nasty little prick?

He's running Chicago.

Posted by: Aviator at April 18, 2014 08:31 PM (3rrMW)

150 Everybody says it's true. I'm saying, I need to see the video proof. Words mean nothing.

Jeez people. This is the internet. I didn't invent the rules.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 08:27 PM (BeSEI)


http://www.buzzfeed.com/toddvanluling/dead-bodies-on-mount-everest

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 08:31 PM (zk/bH)

151 Forgot to put on my question guy sock.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 18, 2014 08:31 PM (jucos)

152 About the Everest thing. I've read that there actually is only a period of about two weeks a year that a climb to the summit is possible

***

And from what I've read, the mountain is ripe with climbers during that period, making the climb even more dangerous.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 08:32 PM (DmNpO)

153 Bunny vid helps heal the rage of everything brought up in the posts today…

Posted by: The Poli-Bunny Hat at April 18, 2014 08:33 PM (AymDN)

154 Unless I personally see someone die on Mt. Everest, I'll consider it typical Tibetan propaganda.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 08:34 PM (ZshNr)

155 Geez burtc, there's a whole site that's got tons of pics and stories about them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:34 PM (JS0vr)

156 And from what I've read, the mountain is ripe with climbers during that period, making the climb even more dangerous.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 08:32 PM (DmNpO)


there is a window in the spring and another in the fall.

Spring has a bigger window

Posted by: a better sock at April 18, 2014 08:34 PM (zk/bH)

157 "138 Everybody says it's true. I'm saying, I need to see the video proof. Words mean nothing.
Jeez people. This is the internet. I didn't invent the rules. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipcKGgsg_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfOKQ5A8Mtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-nh4smWbTA

Satisfied? Or do I literally have to show them laying down, dying, and freezing to death?

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 18, 2014 08:34 PM (LiHKo)

158
Oh, man, there is a video of a guy who they just left up there alive!

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 08:34 PM (8c12T)

159 So it's "ageist" to call Hillary a Grandma?

Very well.
I will continue to call her the Bitch of Benghazi, then.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 08:34 PM (fAjDo)

160 lord what a madhouse...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:35 PM (DA9Jf)

161 My sons and I hiked Kilimanjaro, a relatively easy trek. We had three guides and 20 serphas. Mostly because everything must be hiked in and out.

Mt McKinley, which my sons did, is different. The group has to carry all it's own stuff, no help in Alaska.

Everest is simply mind boggling. The base camp is higher that the summit at Kilimanjaro.

It cost $100K for a trek.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 08:35 PM (0FSuD)

162 Tallest Mountain I've ever climbed was Crestone Peak at 14,294 feet. It was amazing.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 18, 2014 08:36 PM (jucos)

163 Can't use the "B" word either.

The "C" word and the "D" word are okay though.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:36 PM (JS0vr)

164 http://www.buzzfeed.com/toddvanluling/dead-bodies-on-mount-everest

hmmmm ....

If I were any good at writing, I'd do a murder mystery with the body being stashed on Mt. Everest ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 18, 2014 08:37 PM (qoKTg)

165 Are there any beautiful women with an interest in Mount Everest?

Posted by: Everest at April 18, 2014 08:37 PM (MKpBT)

166 Mt. Everest is a RINO.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 08:37 PM (ZshNr)

167 160 lord what a madhouse...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter

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Where? ....Here?

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 08:37 PM (fAjDo)

168 Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 08:35 PM (0FSuD)

....everybody's gone serphin'.....serphin' USA......

Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2014 08:38 PM (HtUkt)

169 I'll let someone else climb mountains and jump out of perfectly good airplanes and such things as that. I call it "living precariously through others"

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:38 PM (DA9Jf)

170 It would be more sensible than what's her face shoving her new husband off the cliff and then essentially saying "What Me Worry" in answer to questions about where he was.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:38 PM (JS0vr)

171 Ridge In Name Only

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 08:38 PM (ZshNr)

172 Mt. Everest guide: "Up."

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 08:38 PM (8MjqI)

173 Still ...

May the family and friends of the dead find strength and be comforted.

May the family and friends of the missing find hope and joy ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 18, 2014 08:39 PM (qoKTg)

174 Where? ....Here?



Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 08:37 PM (fAjDo)


Skating Rink Hell, AKA Jellybeans, Wake Forest NC.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:39 PM (DA9Jf)

175 Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 08:38 PM (8MjqI)

Keep moving.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:39 PM (JS0vr)

176 I shot the Sherpa. but I did not shoot the deputy.

Posted by: Everest at April 18, 2014 08:40 PM (MKpBT)

177 The so called stone tombs or cairns are more like a stone wall and the body is behind it. Looks strange since you can still see the person.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 08:40 PM (8c12T)

178 I call it "living precariously through others"

I live figuratively through your peach pie baking, so if I ever do something interesting, I'll let you know.

Posted by: Adriane... at April 18, 2014 08:41 PM (qoKTg)

179 If everybody had a mountain
across the USA
then everydody'd be Sherpin'.
Sherpin' USA

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:41 PM (JS0vr)

180 Boy's B-day is Sunday (he's 15) and for his B-day he got a smart phone (I got a new one and handed the old one to my daughter who handed her old one to Boy) and wanted to go skating with his pals, so here we are.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:41 PM (DA9Jf)

181 Darling you...oo...oo...oo, ascend me.

Honest you do.

Posted by: Everest at April 18, 2014 08:42 PM (MKpBT)

182
I live figuratively through your peach pie baking, so if I ever do something interesting, I'll let you know.

Posted by: Adriane... at April 18, 2014 08:41 PM (qoKTg)


I had to use frozen peaches before, but fresh ones should be available soon.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:42 PM (DA9Jf)

183 Skating Rink Hell, AKA Jellybeans, Wake Forest NC.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter

------------

Ah.
Yeah...kids + skates + round room = all the ingredients for mayhem.

Then, if you add groups of hormonally charged teenagers in the mix, showing off for each other...yeah, madhouse.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 08:42 PM (fAjDo)

184 This thread is very quickly going downhill.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 08:43 PM (hn5v5)

185 Arrg! Some of you need to be smacked with a whiffleball bat.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:44 PM (DA9Jf)

186 wanted to go skating with his pals, so here we are.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:41 PM (DA9Jf)

Let me guess; music from the late '70's early '80's?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:44 PM (JS0vr)

187 Born to be Sherpa, by Sherpenwolf

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 08:44 PM (HVff2)

188 Evening all. Question for the Horde. Does anyone have any experience driving for rideshare services like Lyft, Uber or Sidecar? I'm contemplating doing this for side cash, and wanted to find out about how one can make doing thiw.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 18, 2014 08:44 PM (ojnk6)

189 I call b.s. on the "dead bodies laying all around" until somebody has the guts to show the video of said dead bodies instead of trying to avoid them.


Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 08:15 PM (BeSEI)



Several years ago while at the doctor's office, a magazine (Smithonian?) had an article about a Chinese expedition to Everest for the express purpose of documenting the dead. There were photographs of several areas where there were dead people scattered about. The mountain is littered with corpses.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 18, 2014 08:44 PM (1htQa)

190 Frozen peaches are sometimes better than the ones you can find at the grocery store.

The ones that are picked green never sweeten up.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 08:44 PM (fAjDo)

191 ....everybody's gone serphin'.....serphin' USA......

Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2014 08:38 PM (HtUkt)

ha ha.

Funny, we are hiking up the mt with all our cool gear, etc. The serphas are running up the mt with all our shit in 10 year old sneakers.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 08:44 PM (0FSuD)

192 I'm willing Tibet all of you that Hims gonna Lay'er.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 08:45 PM (ZshNr)

193 Let me guess; music from the late '70's early '80's?


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:44 PM (JS0vr)



No, modern music. On now, Roar by Katie Perry, or howeverinnahell she spells her name.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:46 PM (DA9Jf)

194 Why anyone would go to a foreign country when there's perfectly good mountains here at home to fall off of or freeze to death on.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:47 PM (JS0vr)

195 *lines up Muldoon, MH and Big James, smacks them all with a whiffleball bat*



*eyeballs Lincolntf*

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:48 PM (DA9Jf)

196 You know what is really weird?

All those guys dead up there on Everest?

They will stay there. They don't hike down dead people.

A friend's son hiked Everest and he said the weirdest shit was walking by dead people, still frozen after 10-20 years on the mt.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 08:48 PM (0FSuD)

197
§

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 08:48 PM (9lyhM)

198 *beats Everest soundly with whiffleball bat*

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:49 PM (DA9Jf)

199 And here is where Sir Edmund Turnipseed changed his name after learning that an American couple had named their daughter after him, but missed the spelling.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 08:50 PM (8MjqI)

200 *shudder* some Elvyra looking teenybopper with a GnR shirt...she's gonna be a handful for somebody some day...I pity the poor fool.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:50 PM (DA9Jf)

201 Everest is not a hill to die on.

Posted by: the GOP at April 18, 2014 08:51 PM (08jH8)

202 They're up there...

https://tinyurl.com/k6npk7t

Hillary shoulda dumped Vince up there...

Posted by: tu3031 at April 18, 2014 08:52 PM (yagOO)

203 Everest is not a hill to die on.


Posted by: the GOP at April 18, 2014 08:51 PM (08jH


For you, the Gallagher mallet. *WHACK*

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:52 PM (DA9Jf)

204 Lotsa eye makeup, glossy lips, leotards and a tight low cut sweater or see thru blouse?

Dry run.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:52 PM (JS0vr)

205 sock off

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:53 PM (MKpBT)

206 I didn't hike Everest, but I was named after that guy who did and I know people that wear Rolex Explorers.

http://tinyurl.com/n4bcd5u

Posted by: The Hillda Beast at April 18, 2014 08:53 PM (0FSuD)

207 201 Everest is not a hill to die on.
Posted by: the GOP at April 18, 2014 08:51 PM (08jH8

HAHAHAHA....stupid GOP.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 18, 2014 08:54 PM (Q6g1g)

208 Eh, y'all can kiss my crevasse!

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:54 PM (MKpBT)

209 I'm craving mac-n-cheese but have none of the ingredients to make it nor do I have the packaged type.

I could drive around the corner and buy some Kraft. I could drive the 15 miles to Pollo Tropical to buy their's, which is delicious.

Or... I could sit here on my ass eating Whoppers Robin Eggs and bitch and moan.

What to do?

What to do?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 08:55 PM (DmNpO)

210 That sounds like too much work n' stuff.

Is there a video game?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 08:55 PM (JS0vr)

211 The Hills Have Eyes


but


The Mountain has eers.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:55 PM (MKpBT)

212 @206

Try this tinys are fucked today

http://tinyurl.com/md2cy7r

Posted by: The Hillda Beast at April 18, 2014 08:55 PM (0FSuD)

213 For those of you who are a little paranoid (NTTAWWT), and are using Firefox or Pale Moon, you might want to read:
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/geolocation/

Toward the bottom of the page, there are instructions for turning it off.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 08:55 PM (aDwsi)

214 GOP = gigantic obsolete pricks

Posted by: Seems legit at April 18, 2014 08:57 PM (Q6g1g)

215 Owww. Those whiffle bats pack a wallop. And leave a mark. I'm going to go nurse my wounds.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 08:58 PM (MKpBT)

216 I didn't hike Everest, but I was named after that guy who did and I know people that wear Rolex Explorers.
------------

...and, I'm going to be a granny..., assuming Chelsea doesn't take my advice and abort the thing.

On the other hand, I figure I could gather some sympathy votes if she miscarries.

Tough call.

Posted by: Hillary at April 18, 2014 08:58 PM (aDwsi)

217 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 18, 2014 08:48 PM (DA9Jf)

Jumpin Jack Sherpa

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 08:59 PM (HVff2)

218 Hillary is not only a grandma, she's a bossy grandma. So there. FYNQ.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 18, 2014 09:00 PM (Icq+V)

219 The Yeti have many legends and fuzzy pictures of Sherpas.

I hope those dudes never saw it coming.

Posted by: eman at April 18, 2014 09:00 PM (AO9UG)

220 sock off
I don't know. We haven't known each other very long.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:00 PM (hn5v5)

221 I am going to love my little Jewish Grand baby.

I guess a Baptism service won't sell?

Posted by: The Hillda Beast at April 18, 2014 09:02 PM (0FSuD)

222 well thank you MH.

I did not know that.

Seems that Firefox says they ask but if so, how come Ho Dep knows my location (incorrectly as it is) by using the IP address?

Seems there's some wiggle room as the choice can be

default allow block

I've been having trouble with the Home Depot site as they keep saying I'm somewhere I'm not and maybe this is the reason.

For what ever reason my IP address shows me being 30 miles from where I am.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:02 PM (JS0vr)

223 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:02 PM (JS0vr)

Got DSL?

Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2014 09:04 PM (HtUkt)

224 My David Axelrod action figure is practicing switching between bwahaha and a look of I feel your pain.

Damn, he's good.

Posted by: eman at April 18, 2014 09:04 PM (AO9UG)

225 For what ever reason my IP address shows me being 30 miles from where I am.

Posted by: Bitter
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Lucky guy. Sadly, some unsuspecting poor sap will get hit by the drone.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:04 PM (aDwsi)

226 You know the best thing about being the President?

I'll get to pardon Chesla's father in law!

http://tinyurl.com/mu8d9d

Posted by: The Hillda Beast at April 18, 2014 09:05 PM (0FSuD)

227 224 My David Axelrod action figure is practicing switching between bwahaha and a look of I feel your pain.

Damn, he's good.

With or without lip hair?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 09:05 PM (HVff2)

228 Bitter - Are you still using Firefox?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:05 PM (aDwsi)

229 DENVER (AP) -- Officials say a Delta Air Lines plane on a flight from Detroit to Denver reported an unspecified potential security threat and taxied to a remote area after landing safely at Denver International Airport.

From DETROIT on EASTER SUNDAY.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 09:05 PM (thLL8)

230 From DETROIT on EASTER SUNDAY.

Posted by: Behind
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Checks calendar..., no, no...., it's still Good Friady

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:06 PM (aDwsi)

231 #222

It's usually based on doing a trace route and basing off the first address in the chain that has a known location. Typically a router at your ISP.

You can see how this works for yourself on most desktop OSes and there are apps for on most mobile OSes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trace_route

Posted by: Epobirs at April 18, 2014 09:07 PM (Icq+V)

232 Checks calendar..., no, no...., it's still Good Friady


I am *urp* quite drunk. Tanks.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 09:07 PM (thLL8)

233 yes I am. Just because some people at Mozilla are dipshits doesn't mean that I have to suffer by using another browser that I don't want to.

After all the kerfluffle, I downloaded Chrome (I've tried it before) still didn't like it. No control no extras too bland and too much control by Google. I'm thinking about Pale Moon but really, it's just Firefox trimmed down so how am I hurting the idiots at Mozilla?

Hey, I quit Comcast, do any of you all still get cable? Comcast is far more evil than Mozilla any day of the week.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:09 PM (JS0vr)

234 nude

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 18, 2014 09:10 PM (/vO0r)

235 Epoirs - Aside from the inconvenience of perhaps having to provide a location to a site, do you see any real downside to turning that feature OFF?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:11 PM (aDwsi)

236 Grandma from hell!

http://goo.gl/9VtOQu

She shot her grandkids, was a bitch of a mother, had DID (which is fake), told her son all his life that he was a product of rape which was a lie, etc. Daughter should have moved as far away from her as possible.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 09:11 PM (8c12T)

237 Posted by: Epobirs at April 18, 2014 09:07 PM (Icq+V)

I've done down load speed tests and they always show my location as 30 miles from here so I suspect it has to do with Verizon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:11 PM (JS0vr)

238 Bitter - Well, Pale Moon seems indistinguishable from Firefox..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 09:12 PM (aDwsi)

239 229
From DETROIT on EASTER SUNDAY.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 09:05 PM (thLL


You've been practicing folding space and time, haven't you?

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

240 do any of you all still get cable?

No.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 09:13 PM (8c12T)

241 Wow. Fox is showing the NV standoff, which is not over.

Looks like a lot of people are staying in NV to protect Bundy.

GOOD!

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 09:14 PM (0FSuD)

242 Hey, Hammer, how's that rain? Or is it still snow?

ha ha.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 09:15 PM (0FSuD)

243 What they don't tell you about the bunny contests is that the judges eat the under-performing bunnies and mate the top performing bunnies to birth "super bunnies"

We know how this ends: http://youtu.be/_yww2x3bm9k

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 09:17 PM (0AKks)

244 Yeah. I've heard that one before. I hate trying new software that then screws up my registry.

And maybe I'm being paranoid but ever since I downloaded Chrome, Firefox has been acting weird, loading slower, not working the same on google pages. ???

I didn't uninstall Chrome and it's not loading nor any toolbars and such but still. I don't trust those buggers.

Not since I discovered that M$ has undocumented API's that the use for their programs but if you write your own and use the documented API's you can't do the same stuff or as fast.

That's why the EU weenies are going after them all the time. There's a reason. It's why the guy from Netscape (or some other competitor) got a little obsessed with M$ cause they don't play fair.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:18 PM (JS0vr)

245 I'm thinking about Pale Moon but really, it's just Firefox trimmed down so how am I hurting the idiots at Mozilla?

It still sends a statement in internet usage statistics, and you get the benefit of a browser that you're used to.

(For maximum effect, disable firefox compatibility mode to make sure your browser IDs itself as not Firefox)

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 18, 2014 09:18 PM (M9BzG)

246 #233

Mozilla doesn't get money from Google for Pale Moon. The installed base of Firefox is critical to their income and Pale Moon doesn't count towards that.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 18, 2014 09:18 PM (Icq+V)

247 And ONT up.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:18 PM (JS0vr)

248 " From 1993 to 1995, Edward Mezvinsky's wife Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky served one term in Congress, and was the party's nominee for lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania in 1998. In 2000, she was running for the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate when his business problems forced them to file for bankruptcy and caused her abrupt withdrawal."


How sad. A Jew and a corrupt democrat politician, and he couldn't do either one of them right.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 09:18 PM (8MjqI)

249 #233 Pale Moon has nothing to do with Firefox.
http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24t=4163

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:20 PM (hn5v5)

250 ONT up.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 18, 2014 09:22 PM (M9BzG)

251 Oh. Oh. It's an Ace ONT.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 09:26 PM (hn5v5)

252 #244

The primary reason MS kept APIs to themselves is they were in areas where you could easily do major damage to the system if you didn't play by the guidelines. Up until Vista it was Microsoft's policy to issue guideline by not to enforce their usage within the OS. This proved to be a disaster as far too many developers showed they simply couldn't be trusted to place stability over convenience. So, starting with Vista a lot of the guideline became enforced laws. If they had adopted this policy from Day One on NT the average quality of Windows software would have been higher, with crashes and security issues less frequent.

That went against the anything goes mentality that personified early personal computing but they had to grow up someday. The beginning of NT would have been the right time, since there was a natural divide between it and the DOS-based systems but this is a field where overextended adolescents abound.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 18, 2014 09:27 PM (Icq+V)

253 >>> . There were photographs of several areas where there were dead people scattered about. The mountain is littered with corpses.


Someone has to feed the yetis.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 09:34 PM (8MjqI)

254 Posted by: Epobirs at April 18, 2014 09:27 PM (Icq+V)

Then they could just not certify that code.

I'm talking about them using the secret API as a competitive advantage.

Not only did they do this to people not using their stuff but they did this to people using their programming language software. That's when I realized what they were doing.

Long story short I wrote some code that I just could not get to do what M$ code did. I tried everything read everything I could and bought lots of books and supposed api listings and could not get my code to do the same thing M$ could. They built in short cuts that only they knew were there.

And by the way, Windows was unstable for a lot of reasons among them was the architecture it was installed on and the lack of standards for drivers and the electronics themselves.

Then after years of enforcing these standards, along comes win 8 and they throw all the gui they took years building so they could lamely compete in the tablet and handheld market. leaving their desktop users in the dirt.

eff them with a dirty stick.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 09:43 PM (JS0vr)

255 I'm waiting until they get a helicopter that can drop me at that altitude. Or a Star Trek Transporter. Otherwise, those slightly less lazy than me can have all the glory.

Posted by: Dirks strewn at April 18, 2014 10:41 PM (77F0w)

256 Obama is a nasty little prick? Say it ain't so Joe!

I always knew he was a lying little shmuck, but "nasty little prick"--that's a new and disturbing development. I thought that Harry Reid had the "nasty little prick" department in Washington D.C. cornered,controlled and cornholed. All by his own little slimy self.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 18, 2014 11:43 PM (wdHk6)

257 The British Labour Party has appointed David Axelrod as a strategic adviser to Ed Miliband's 2015 campaign.

The playbook is simple: Lie as much as possible, call the white Poms racists at every opportunity, and have your side's political operatives involved with the vote tally.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 19, 2014 12:09 AM (q1EOg)

258 Weird that right before I came here i goggled Christopher Walken films to find True Romance so I could rent.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 19, 2014 12:58 AM (P1WNR)

Krauthammer: I No Longer Support Disclosure in Campaign Donations, Because Zealots Will Destroy Free Speech Rights By Ruining Lives and Wrecking Careers

I think this problem can be subsumed under my general political observation that "People are just awful."

And there's really no way around that, is there?

Best we can do is mitigate the harm by making government smaller, thus limiting the harm that people can inflict when they gather into Battleclans for Tribal Warfare.

And of course that's not happening any time soon.

[Full disclosure and complete transparency] used to be my position. No longer. I had not foreseen how donor lists would be used not to ferret out corruption but to pursue and persecute citizens with contrary views. Which corrupts the very idea of full disclosure.

It is now an invitation to the creation of enemies lists....

Sometimes the state itself does the harassing. The IRS scandal left many members of political groups exposed to abuse, such as the unlawful release of confidential data....

The ultimate victim here is full disclosure itself. If revealing your views opens you to the politics of personal destruction, then transparency, however valuable, must give way to the ultimate core political good, free expression.

Our collective loss. Coupling unlimited donations and full disclosure was a reasonable way to reconcile the irreconcilables of campaign finance. Like so much else in our politics, however, it has been ruined by zealots. What a pity.

The whole column is worth reading, but I can't quote it all, of course.

Kevin D. Williamson has more thoughts on the related issue of the militarization of the speech police.

Down in Travis County, Texas, where the stink of cronyism has Republicans in the legislature and Democrats in the bureaucracies sniffing each others’ tails like opportunistic stray dogs, University of Texas regent Wallace Hall is facing the possibility of criminal prosecution for helping to expose the bipartisan scandal of Texas politicians’ seeking preferential treatment for friends and family in university admissions....

In a sane world, Wallace Hall would get a medal for bringing attention to wrongdoing by elected officials, but the university establishment and the political establishment relish their comfortable symbiosis.

Others dream of prosecution, too. The political class is infatuated with speech regulations (which we are expected to call “campaign-finance laws”) because its members harbor a self-interested desire to set the terms under which political contests are fought. That is corruption, and a particularly nasty sort of corruption at that: corruption dressed up as a reform crusade....

The irony here is that it is the ones doing the prosecuting are the ones who should be prosecuted. It is against the law to use IRS resources for political vendettas and to maliciously prosecute citizens to further partisan political interests. Those are serious crimes — serious because they pervert the fundamental relationship between citizen and state. But we are enduring what Sam Francis called “anarcho-tyranny,” a situation in which the government either refuses to or is unable to enforce its most fundamental laws — e.g. controlling the borders, ensuring that its revenue agents are not engaged in an unhinged political jihad with an eye toward stacking elections, etc. — while at the same time it seeks to regulate the minutiae of citizens’ lives with all the terrible moral ferocity of David Frum on a Tuesday afternoon espresso bender.

Meanwhile, Harry Reid -- who is more and more simply a monster -- continues making it clear that the Party of Government has personal interests, and it will stop at very little in vindicating those personal interests:

I note again that it is a scary thing when high-ranking officials of the Party of Government take challenges to their authority so personally.

You don't want a cop taking a small amount of attitude personally, and you sure as hell don't want the Majority Leader of the Senate doing so.

Or Sheldon Whitehorse of Rhode Island, who apparently took it quite personally indeed that Tea Party groups were seeking the same sort of tax status as myriad progressive groups.

Posted by: Ace at 05:39 PM



Comments

1 who IS on first, anyway?

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 18, 2014 05:41 PM (uopHF)

2 Send out your donors so that we may know them!

Posted by: unruly mob of Soddomites at April 18, 2014 05:41 PM (Ua6T/)

3 I bet some tar and feathers would change Reid's outlook post haste

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 18, 2014 05:42 PM (NKWFJ)

4 Best we can do is mitigate the harm by making government smaller, thus
limiting the harm that people can inflict when they gather into
Battleclans for Tribal Warfare.




That was the original intent of the founders but it was destroyed with the advent of the progressive era in the early 1900s. It was aided and abetted by the 14th amendment which destroyed the idea of the States.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 05:42 PM (T2V/1)

5 Yes, people are awful and aren't getting any better. All veneer of civility is wearing off and we are becoming the characters in "Lord of the Flies".

Posted by: museisluse at April 18, 2014 05:43 PM (ngu15)

6 As for the Hairy Pederast, he is rapidly approaching the disgusting level of Obama and Holder. He is joining the ranks of people I can hardly wait to die so I can piss on their graves. Hopefully they will bury him next to Jane Fonda so I can do a dual stream.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 05:44 PM (T2V/1)

7 There is a real civil war in America. And the "right" better understand that and join in. It's to bad and it's mostly the intolerant left's fault. And ti's only going to get worse.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 05:44 PM (nzKvP)

8 At least the Koch Brothers aren't Pederasts.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 05:45 PM (bitz6)

9 Much more civilized: http://www.justin.tv/swheatrescues

Posted by: museisluse at April 18, 2014 05:45 PM (ngu15)

10 the problem is conservative acquiesence to this because, for some reason, around 1991 or so the GOP signed an accord with the DNC agreeing to terms that:

1. no liberal should be punished or otherwise inconvenienced for breaking the law or acting like a dick; and
2 all conservatives must be on their best behavior at all times
2a because they will be mercilessly and humorlessly prosecuted; and
2b. any bad behavior on the part of conservatives, real or imagined, will implicated the whole movement.

I dunno, it didn't seem like a good idea then and it doesn't seem like a good idea now.

Perhaps we should start fighting back by:

not apologizing everytime a feminist gets upset
prosecute donk bad behavior
endlessly mock the left

instead of Romney's 2012 campaign slogan "Obama is awesome, but I am ok, so vote for me maybe?"

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 18, 2014 05:47 PM (DTVYh)

11 I mean, you'd think we'd use that Koch money to protect ourselves from batshit insane libs.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 18, 2014 05:48 PM (DTVYh)

12 The Supremes created a Right to Privacy in Roe V Wade...

Money is NOT Speech... no matter what the Supremes say.,... its PROPERTY...

And you have no RIGHT to know what I do with my property, which is covered by the Right to Privacy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 05:48 PM (84gbM)

13 And they're trying to push a bill to "study" "hate speech" on the radio and online. Link in sig.

After the study, they'll make "recommendations."

Hmm, I wonder what those will look like?

Posted by: Lauren at April 18, 2014 05:48 PM (hFL/3)

14 The heretic Nazi Pelosi is washing the feet of illegal immigrant Mexicans.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 05:48 PM (bitz6)

15 not apologizing everytime a feminist gets upset
prosecute donk bad behavior
endlessly mock the left



Posted by: joeindc44 at April 18, 2014 05:47 PM (DTVYh)

some of us are already there... we just are not listened to by the Media.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 05:49 PM (84gbM)

16 Bring back the Senate Dueling Grounds!

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 05:50 PM (KgFhV)

17 we have to fight back. Never apologize Never back down

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 05:50 PM (nzKvP)

18 Having to reveal who you give money to also reveals
whom you will be voting for

And that's nobody's personal fucking business

A campaign contribution is not a lawn sign

Posted by: TexasJew at April 18, 2014 05:50 PM (U+u4A)

19 13 Hmm, I wonder what those will look like?

Posted by: at April 18, 2014 05:48 PM (hFL/3)

As I posted in the link (unreadable) this morning. They tried that shit once before and the Supreme Court squashed it. I seriously doubt that it would pass muster now since the court is a little more conservative now than it was then.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 05:50 PM (T2V/1)

20 Having to reveal who you give money to also reveals
whom you will be voting for

And that's nobody's personal fucking business

A campaign contribution is not a lawn sign
Posted by: TexasJew at April 18, 2014 05:50 PM (U+u4A)

Everybody who knows me Knows who I am voting for!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 05:51 PM (nzKvP)

21 19 It's a tax.

Posted by: John Roberts at April 18, 2014 05:51 PM (bitz6)

22 I hope a burning 18 wheeler crashes into Harry Reid's rape van

Posted by: TexasJew at April 18, 2014 05:52 PM (U+u4A)

23 T-Jew!

Good to see you around. I hope you and the family had a nice Passover.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 05:52 PM (KgFhV)

24 I was promised better weather, and bananas.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 18, 2014 05:52 PM (L02KD)

25 22 He doesn't have an El Camino?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 05:52 PM (bitz6)

26 Everybody who knows me Knows who I am voting for!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 05:51 PM (nzKvP)


That's the people who KNOW you... not every Liberal Idiot in the country....

and not the Politicians... or Government employees.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 05:53 PM (84gbM)

27 Speaking of people (Democrats) trying to destroy you, I've seen several essays the last couple days in the conservative blogosphere about Lerner's IRS and the DOJ trying to whip up a prosecution against some conservative-read any conservative-to intimidateall the other conservative groups opposing Obama's agenda.I was reminded of that Journo-lister douche (can't recall his name) that said "Pick one, doesn't matter who it is, and brand him a racist". Seems like the exact same tactic, slightly modified, to me.

Posted by: visenjon at April 18, 2014 05:53 PM (VDovR)

28 But this way people who don't know who you are will know as well

Plus, your address and probably where your kids go to school

It's pretty chilling

Posted by: TexasJew at April 18, 2014 05:53 PM (U+u4A)

29 I think Reid is doing the "stray voltage" theory here.
He wants this "domestic terrorism" meme out there. He's trolling us.

Reid is a deliberate man.

Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers
Harry Reid Doubles Down: Bundy Ranch Supporters “Violent Terrorist Wannabes”… http://shar.es/TjUWR via @WeaselZippers

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 05:53 PM (ZPrif)

30 Garrett
Thanks!

You too

Posted by: TexasJew at April 18, 2014 05:54 PM (U+u4A)

31
"We must stop the politics of personal destruction. We must get rid of the poisonous venom of excessive partisanship, obsessive animosity and uncontrolled anger."

-- bill clinton
February 1999

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 05:55 PM (9lyhM)

32 Posted by: visenjon at April 18, 2014 05:53 PM (VDovR)

the really sad fact is, that in todays world, with todays people....

Terrorism IS an effective tactic. It WILL make people change behavior.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 05:55 PM (84gbM)

33 If you like your right to privacy, you can keep your right to privacy.

Posted by: Jmel at April 18, 2014 05:55 PM (cfFqn)

34 Down in Travis County, Texas, where the stink of cronyism has Republicans in the legislature and Democrats in the bureaucracies sniffing each others’ tails like opportunistic stray dogs

That great sentence captures the essence of the problem of Democrat/Republicans in DC- the party of "getting reelected", even at the expense of liberty for the people.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 05:55 PM (F58x4)

35 The Left almost never tries to destroy muslims.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 05:56 PM (ZPrif)

36 That's the people who KNOW you... not every Liberal Idiot in the country....

and not the Politicians... or Government employees.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 05:53 PM (84gbM)

Yeah Yeah I know. But it's pretty much stamped on my forehead.
And I have googled myself and seen my political donations, so I understand exactly what your talking about.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 05:56 PM (nzKvP)

37
Alternate post title:

Don't Call It Bullying, Though

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 05:56 PM (9lyhM)

38 Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 05:53 PM (ZPrif)

Well... the Palestinians ARE Terrorists.... and we are giving them Arms and Money...

And Rebels in Syria... and Rebels who were in Libya.... and Pakistan, who hid OBL for years, gets foreign Aid...

So... maybe being a Terrorist is cost effective?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 05:57 PM (84gbM)

39 The Left almost never tries to destroy muslims.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 05:56 PM (ZPrif)

Because they are scared shitless of the muslims and think they can ride the back of the tiger. Fuckin idiots and cowards

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 05:57 PM (nzKvP)

40 If Cliven Bundy were a terrorist he would be getting money from the Captured States of America.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 18, 2014 05:59 PM (bitz6)

41 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 05:57 PM (nzKvP)

The Left will never go after Islam... until they are more Afraid of the Right, than they are of Islam...


Note, some Government agencies are already there...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 05:59 PM (84gbM)

42 The Left's hysterical paranoia throughout the Bush years that they were being persecuted, spied on, and thrown into dungeons was just setting the stage for the moment that they could seize power. That would be the moment when all those imagined slights could be used to fuel the cries to wipe out their political opponents, by hook or by crook. We've been kulaked, friends, and they're all willing to go full fascist against we enemies of the People's Paradise.

Posted by: Space Commander Clinton at April 18, 2014 06:00 PM (MMC8r)

43 Shit. Sock off.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:00 PM (MMC8r)

44 We were domestic terrorists.

Posted by: kids burned alive by the ATF at April 18, 2014 06:00 PM (Ua6T/)

45 That great sentence captures the essence of the problem of Democrat/Republicans in DC- the party of "getting reelected", even at the expense of liberty for the people.
Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 05:55 PM (F58x4)

'...even at the expense of liberty for the people'? Seems to me those in power view the liberty of the people as an obstacle to be removed. After individual liberty is gone, presumably Utopia naturally follows.

Reminds me of something either Solzhenitsyn or Vaclev Havel wrote or said: 'The gulags were not an unhappybyproduct of the Soviet system. The gulags were the point.'

Posted by: troyriser at April 18, 2014 06:01 PM (2jF2B)

46 Just finished reading "This Town" (came out a while ago) - on both sides of the aisle, voters are just a means to an end. All those assholes want to do is get invited to the cool parties.

Had very troubling dreams last night - had to be related to that book.

I don't know how we get to the point that these weasels understand that they work for US, and not the other way around.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at April 18, 2014 06:01 PM (PZ6/M)

47 If the people who harassed those on the lists, and showed up at their doorsteps, etc were sufficiently punished - in which I mean arrested and thrown in jail - then this could be limited somewhat.

The problem is, too many people are getting away with it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 18, 2014 06:02 PM (IXrOn)

48
The Left will never go after Islam... until they are more Afraid of the Right, than they are of Islam...


OK, I'm up for that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 06:02 PM (nzKvP)

49 Barky never did disclose who his Foreign Donors were...

So the 'full disclosure rule' doesn't even work...in the very instances it was designed to work on!

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 06:02 PM (fAjDo)

50 Posted by: Space Commander Clinton at April 18, 2014 06:00 PM (MMC8r)

the Left was freaked out that they 'could' be spied on.... but then did not change anything when they got the reigns of power...

Note.... the NSA did start spying on us under Bush.... now its just on steroids.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 06:03 PM (84gbM)

51

Harry Reid, somewhere along the way, sold his soul to the devil.

He ain't gettin' it back.

He will die a miserable man.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 18, 2014 06:04 PM (IXrOn)

52 "7
There is a real civil war in America. And the "right" better understand
that and join in. It's to bad and it's mostly the intolerant left's
fault. And ti's only going to get worse.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 05:44 PM (nzKvP)"----------I know you Americans who aren't on the Left like your Christianity, which is one of many ways in which we disagree, but could you at least have some "Onward Christian Soldiers" Christianity and less "Turn the Other Cheek" Christianity? Meet me half-way, for crying out loud. Or lose the country. The choice is yours.

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:05 PM (QTyrZ)

53

*cheers

party time

Happy sweet Easter

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 18, 2014 06:05 PM (IXrOn)

54 I feel like I'm drowning in a fever swamp of progressivism and the GOP just keeps throwing me anchors.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 06:05 PM (thLL8)

55 so I can do a dual stream.


Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 05:44 PM (T2V/1)


****

Meatal stenosis, there's a surgery for that.


I think it was pioneered by Urethra Franklin.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 06:06 PM (MKpBT)

56 What can we do about it? NOTHING.

Even republicans are against us, so what are we supposed to do?

Win some elections and put other people in power who hate us SLIGHTLY less? Wow great.

Anybody have a spaceship I can have? I gotta get the fuck out of here.

Posted by: Dan at April 18, 2014 06:06 PM (COpZ4)

57 He will die a miserable man.

Wasn't the crusty old commie rushed to the ER a couple of months ago?

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 06:06 PM (thLL8)

58 I know you Americans who aren't on the Left like your Christianity, which is one of many ways in which we disagree, but could you at least have some "Onward Christian Soldiers" Christianity and less "Turn the Other Cheek" Christianity? Meet me half-way, for crying out loud. Or lose the country. The choice is yours.
Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:05 PM (QTyrZ)

I'm Jewish. What's your point?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 06:06 PM (nzKvP)

59 If the Left is not your generation's Pharisees, then who is? And what did Jesus do to the Pharisees? And who doubts that Jesus only used a rope because guns hadn't been invented yet?

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:07 PM (QTyrZ)

60 Sandra Fluke was more of that 'stray voltage'-- ridiculous story designed to capture the Narrative. They've been doing this for a while, and it's been working.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:07 PM (MMC8r)

61
@ 51
And the thing I don't get is Mrs. Harry Reid. This good Mormon woman thinks she is getting into heaven? Her hubby is the money man for the Great Abortion Pimp aka Baraka Obama. All the federal monies for Obama's abortion agenda start with Sen Harry.

Posted by: visenjon at April 18, 2014 06:08 PM (VDovR)

62 If Bundy is a terrorist, as Reid says he is...

CAN OBAMA JUST EXECUTE HIM WITH A DRONE STRIKE WITHOUT DUE PROCESS?

Sounds crazy right? Well, Obama has already done this to a American citizen that the government labeled a terrorist. Now, Senate Majority leader labels Bundy a terrorist.

This is going in a really scary direction.

Posted by: Dan at April 18, 2014 06:08 PM (COpZ4)

63 The creation of enemies lists is a two way street.

The
compilation of an enemies list by the right, perhaps starting with a
list of everyone working for the newspaper that published the lists of
gun-owners and moving on from there, should really be a priority.

Or maybe I'm wrong and this isn't really a war....

But I'll bet the left has lists like that.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 06:09 PM (AC0lD)

64 >stray voltage

So was that idiot propaganda pic from Carney's kitchen. It was designed to show liberals as having fun and the conservatives as humorless scolds, and it worked.

Posted by: Piercello at April 18, 2014 06:10 PM (jJ97i)

65 Wow, Dan. Hadn't thought of it from that perspective.

God help us.

Posted by: Lauren at April 18, 2014 06:12 PM (hFL/3)

66 We thought the purges and thuggery couldn't happen here.

How naive we were.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 06:12 PM (fNl/7)

67 That's just it. The Left has been at war with us for 50 years, but we really just figured it out 5-10 years ago. Most still have no idea there even is a war at all.

Posted by: Dan at April 18, 2014 06:12 PM (COpZ4)

68 "
I'm Jewish. What's your point?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 06:06 PM (nzKvP)"-------------Certainly not anything anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic. Read section 251 of Beyond Good and Evil, where I rip the anti-Semites a new one for not letting the "Wandering Jew" finally find a home in Europe. My directive was aimed at incapacitating the Left by any means necessary, not the Jews. Just fucking go "blond beast" on them. It's either that or they do it on you. The Christianity mention was for the broader population of Americans, who seem to only adhere to a passive strand of Christianity and let the Left run over them (that is, where it isn't politicians letting the Left win because they sorta want the same things, even if they don't maybe want them quite as fast). For a Jewish American, it might be "More early Old Testament Fighting Judaism" and less "Woe is me I'm persecuted Judaism".

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:13 PM (QTyrZ)

69 65, I sure wish he would help us. I'd settle for an Iron Man or Batman too. Any help would be great.

Posted by: Dan at April 18, 2014 06:14 PM (COpZ4)

70 The Left will never go after Islam... until they are more Afraid of the Right, than they are of Islam...





Note, some Government agencies are already there...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 05:59 PM (84gbM)


Tammy Bruce was hectoring the homos for giving the moooooooooslim cab drivers in Cleveland a pass for not transporting them to the homo olympics while trying to put Christian bakeries and photographers out of bidness.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 18, 2014 06:14 PM (TklsO)

71 ---------I know you Americans who aren't on the Left like your Christianity, which is one of many ways in which we disagree, but could you at least have some "Onward Christian Soldiers" Christianity and less "Turn the Other Cheek" Christianity? Meet me half-way, for crying out loud. Or lose the country. The choice is yours.
Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:05 PM (QTyrZ)




Actually, many of us Christians HAVE been standing firm, and have been fighting the good fight. We've been the ones reliable at the polls, we've been the ones reliably signing up for the military, we've been the ones championing freedom of conscience, and freedom of speech. We've been the one on the front lines of right to life and right to liberty. We've been the ones making the argument that rights are given by God and not the State.

So I'm not exactly sure what your argument is here.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 06:14 PM (oMKp3)

72
@ 64
Dig up some clips of Claire Shipman from the early 90's on CNN and her then husband ( he worked there also). Before she was Mrs Jay Carney-barker she was married to some old silver haired geezer that could have been her grandpappy. If that is what constitutes having fun, then I am proud to be a humorless scold. At least I don't have creepy daddy issues (and a love for Marxism).

Posted by: visenjon at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (VDovR)

73
Or eric holder who takes everything a non-black says personally and uses his high powered position to punish non-blacks and reward his friends.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (BrAHD)

74
"Harry Reid -- who is more and more simply a monster..."


Prayers for Harry Reid
Harry Reid has been hospitalized after a car accident involving his motorcade. I’m praying for a quick recovery for the Senate Majority Leader, and hope you’ll all join me.

Oct 26, 2012 Ed Morrissey


"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (kdS6q)

75 Next step, if you own a gun you are a domestic terrorist.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (Aif/5)

76 Hey Krauthammer. Welcome to the party, Pal.

Seriously, though, what conservatives have managed to navigate through the past couple of decades WITHOUT being subjected to the Left's Spanish Inquisition? I certainly haven't been able to do so.

Posted by: Y-not at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (zDsvJ)

77 So TFG won't make a decision on Keystone. Again.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (QeH9j)

78 I prefer my Nietzsche paired with The Family Circus.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:17 PM (MMC8r)

79 75, Don't worry, that will happen once the Left gets a few more left wingers on the supreme court. Will only take a few more left wing presidents in a row.

Posted by: Dan at April 18, 2014 06:17 PM (COpZ4)

80 Having a sense of morality puts you at a disadvantage...when you are fighting an opponent who is not hindered by any such sense of morality.

This is something that the Left has taken advantage of, repeatedly.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 06:17 PM (fAjDo)

81 I prefer my Nietzsche paired with The Family Circus.


I don't know why I bothered to come back from the wilderness.

Posted by: Zarathustra at April 18, 2014 06:18 PM (KgFhV)

82
I have tried to explain this before, but we need to rehabilitate the term bully.
people want to say it doesn't apply here, but it does. The libs are the kid on the top of the jungle gym pushing off everyone who gets close.
that's bullying no matter what the new speak people say.

Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at April 18, 2014 06:18 PM (WQLkn)

83
The dream would be to take away the FCC Licenses of ABC, CBS and NBC et al...for illegal campaign contributions.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:18 PM (BrAHD)

84 Don't worry, that will happen once the Left gets a few more left wingers on the supreme court. Will only take a few more left wing presidents in a row.

---

Probably will only take one.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 06:18 PM (ZPrif)

85 "Actually, many of us Christians HAVE been standing
firm, and have been fighting the good fight. We've been the ones
reliable at the polls, we've been the ones reliably signing up for the
military, we've been the ones championing freedom of conscience, and
freedom of speech. We've been the one on the front lines of right to
life and right to liberty. We've been the ones making the argument that
rights are given by God and not the State.



So I'm not exactly sure what your argument is here.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 06:14 PM (oMKp3)"-----------------You are correct, there is always the American "fighting" Christianity and you do fight well. It's the only form I respect. Closest thing to "Caesar with the soul of Christ", which is my ideal kind of man.But, you've got to admit that what you're doing isn't working and maybe you need to get more of your passive brethren on your side. If the Gospel is really that powerful, shouldn't you be able to do it?

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:18 PM (QTyrZ)

86 The compilation of an enemies list by the right, perhaps starting with a list of everyone working for the newspaper that published the lists of gun-owners and moving on from there, should really be a priority.

One step further: host it in an offshore server, with as much PII as can be gathered--addresses, SSNs, names, addresses, and SSNs of family members, license plates, cell phone numbers & SIM data . . .

Basically, create a one-stop shop for anyone who wishes to hurt those people.

Want to play rough, kids? We'll play rough. We'll make sure your dependent classes can find your crib for a little cultural diversification . . .

Posted by: Darth Cobalt Shiva, Sith Lord at April 18, 2014 06:19 PM (OY/SZ)

87 "Winter is coming" is a microaggression. Fascist.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 06:21 PM (hn5v5)

88
Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 06:14 PM (oMKp3)

Nietzsche wasn't opposed to the left anyway. He's as much a materialist as they were. Someone missed the point.

Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at April 18, 2014 06:21 PM (WQLkn)

89 Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:18 PM (QTyrZ)



The Gospel is about the Messiah coming to save men and women from the consequences of sin. It's about the cross, the resurrection, salvation and redemption. It is about God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

It is not a bludgeon to put republicans in office.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 06:22 PM (oMKp3)

90 Except if you actually did that stuff the Feds would bring the hammer down and arrest you as part of a conspiracy.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 06:22 PM (ZPrif)

91 "There is a real civil war in America."

Civil Cold War.

It's been going on for a while now. More people are starting to realize that.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 06:22 PM (noWW6)

92 88 Materialism and Leftism are not synonyms. Also, there are a multiplicity of materialisms, including the one that is the foundation of the computer you are posting from. It's at least that accurate as a description of the world. Do you have a better one?

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:22 PM (QTyrZ)

93
Would it be possible to create a system so that the politicians don't know from whom the donations came?

Donations go into something like a paypal account that you then designate who gets the money. You can show that you donated to politics, but not to whom.
Make it a crime to prove to a candidate that you gave them money.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 18, 2014 06:23 PM (TfdkD)

94 If the Left is not your generation's Pharisees, then who is? And what did Jesus do to the Pharisees? And who doubts that Jesus only used a rope because guns hadn't been invented yet?
Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:07 PM (QTyrZ)

I doubt Jesus used a length of rope because guns hadn't been invented yet. IfHe chose, He could've shot laser beams from His eyes or stepped forward into time and brought back a boom box from the early Eighties that only played 'Afternoon Delight' by Starland Vocal Band, which would drive anyone from the Temple.

But that isn't really the point, is it? He was trying to teach them (and us), not kill them.

Posted by: troyriser at April 18, 2014 06:23 PM (2jF2B)

95 Posted by: Darth Cobalt Shiva, Sith Lord at April 18, 2014 06:19 PM (OY/SZ)

Of course, I also wanted the Republicans to go ape-shit on President Dumbass during the last election and wage war on the Democrats in every conceivable manner.

I might as well have wished for my unicorn.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 06:24 PM (AC0lD)

96 So TFG won't make a decision on Keystone. Again.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (QeH9j)


Solid B+ imo

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 18, 2014 06:24 PM (TklsO)

97
Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:22 PM (QTyrZ

Nietzsche or Aristotle, Benedict and Trotsky.
I am not unswayed by the description of how we are when we submit to baser instincts. However I do not take the is as an ought.

Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at April 18, 2014 06:25 PM (WQLkn)

98 "Just finished reading 'This Town' (came out a while ago) - on both sides of the aisle, voters are just a means to an end."

Yep!

Posted by: The Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party at April 18, 2014 06:25 PM (noWW6)

99 "Except if you actually did that stuff the Feds would bring the hammer down and arrest you as part of a conspiracy."

Tor, high-grade crypto, and offshore server farms. True, the Feds can bypass all that--at a price. Bringing the case to trial would require the government to reveal intelligence sources & methods on a scale worse than Snowden ever did.

Posted by: Darth Cobalt Shiva, Sith Lord at April 18, 2014 06:25 PM (OY/SZ)

100 The liar in chief announces another permanent delay in the Keystone pipe line, at the same time he tells us the US is pumping more oil.

Posted by: Buffalobob at April 18, 2014 06:25 PM (AuCeZ)

101 I am not unswayed by the description of how we are when we submit to baser instincts. However I do not take the is as an ought.


Can I get a Hat Tip?

Posted by: iKant at April 18, 2014 06:26 PM (KgFhV)

102 "But that isn't really the point, is it? He was trying to teach them (and us), not kill them.

Posted by: troyriser at April 18, 2014 06:23 PM (2jF2B)"---------------------If that is your interpretation of the Gospels, fine. I disagree. I think there is a reading of the Gospels that sort of implies that people are not put on Earth to endure tyranny at the hands of men, and that law overrides all other laws. I'm not going to quote chapter and verse to make the case, but the overall insistence on the dignity of the individual regardless of his station in life implies that human freedom is of paramount concern. When governments transgress against that freedom, they seek wrath. And they should get it.

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:26 PM (QTyrZ)

103 Good Friday indeed. I got a job.

Posted by: Dog One is open at April 18, 2014 06:26 PM (MnC2P)

104 I posted this on the morning thread. A little more thought. It's kinda like the reverse of the "First they came for the Jews..." In this case, it's like they said, well, you didn't care when they came for me, so why should I care when they come for you?

Begin the tl;dr part, but give it a read anyway:

I went to an Easter play presented in a black church last Saturday. It has weighed on my heart, since. I know, these things happen for a reason.

This play was eye opening to me. Because the story is the story - the source material is the same. But watching how this was presented, to hear what was emphasized, I learned a lot. About the community that was the audience, and about the story itself.

I'll point to just one thing. The Sanhedrin brought Jesus to Pilate and asked Pilate to put him to death. In all the years of seeing and hearing the Easter story, here was something I had never heard - it has always been there, I have somehow missed it.

From the KJV, John 19:6:

...Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.

I always understood that Pilate was a reluctant player in the Easter story, that he did not want to be drawn into the local politics of the temple, and afterward, he washed his hands of the consequences. But I had missed that Pilate himself thought that Jesus was innocent.

This was a new view to me. Rome is always the heavy in The Greatest Story Ever Told. We hear it every time in the Nicene Creed, that He "was crucified under Pontius Pilate." Which is true -but....

It was enlightening to me. Rome and Pilate are not exonerated here - far from it. And that this African American congregation made a big deal of that explains a lot to me.

Rome does not crucify Jesus because they are trying to stomp out the burgeoning following around Christ - they do it capriciously, to quell local unrest, a part of a literal conspiracy to kill an innocent man. Their evil is not that are acting with bad intent, but rather that they are acting in the full knowledge that what they are doing is wrong, but do it anyway.

Now, Morons don't come here for theology, even on Good Friday. How does this apply to the current crisis?

It helps me understand how African Americans look at the American Experience as something alien to them. That the US Government is in many ways like Rome - capricious, and doing what is wrong even when they know it is wrong. And part of the - wait for it - "fundamental transformation of America" is that we are all getting a taste of that. I don't think that Obama and Holder consciously are saying, hey, let's give white people a taste of their own medicine, but I don't doubt there is some amount of their experience informing them.

Listening to Glenn Beck over the past few days, he has made some points about this whole Nevada ranch thing. His main deal over it is that people showed up with guns to face down the government, and he is pushing non-violent resistance. And he asks many times - are you facing attack dogs and fire hoses? Is it anything like what African Americans faced? (An aside - my mother was in a restaurant in St. Augustine, Florida when there was a disturbance. Black people were trying to get in, there were police with dogs and cattle prods. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was arrested and jailed. This is living memory. Hard to believe that the Mustang is 50 years old? Well, same year.)

I think this is one reason why people try to say that reaction to Obama policies is racist. I know, it is a default and is used by white liberals to mau mau people - but I think that there are many people, many African Americans, who are thinking - well, now that the government is capricious and unfair to you you say something about it.

There may be something to it. I used to be a "law and order" (not the TV show) guy - crack down on criminals. But after having my own tangles with the legal system (divorce and traffic tickets!) I know it isn't like you see on TV. It is a capricious and unfair system. It isn't about finding the truth. And cops lie, and nobody cares. Judges I am sure know that the cops are lying on the stand, but they go along with it. Coming into contact with the "justice" system opened my eyes. I didn't complain about it until it affected me. Did it just suddenly become bad, or is not just no longer deniable to me?

I don't know. I didn't turn into some bleeding heart liberal. But I can see why people might think and say the things they do. And it makes me think that there is something to, this, too:

Criminal Justice Reform: The GOP’s Best Hope to Reach Minority Voters

http://alturl.com/zppxv

There is no question anymore that law enforcement, and our legal system, are unfair, and out of control. And it isn't just that way to Tea Party organizations applying for tax exempt status.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 06:27 PM (4+AaH)

105 I've mentioned before how my old boss would ask me to help print stuff or make copies of videos and there were times it turned out to be pretty confidential Dem donor lists or my all time fave of an entire candidates campaign commercials and strategy and how I did not make an extra copy for me and post it on the internet because of my own ethics. I regret that now.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at April 18, 2014 06:27 PM (JACYy)

106 This enemies list stuff is complicated. There is a cabal of investors from the ivies who hold controlling interests in companies you may consider conservative in nature


The Obama years have been very very good for this class of investor

Posted by: thunderb at April 18, 2014 06:28 PM (Pc0ub)

107 "Nietzsche or Aristotle, Benedict and Trotsky.
I am not unswayed by the description of how we are when we submit to baser instincts. However I do not take the is as an ought.

Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at April 18, 2014 06:25 PM (WQLkn)"-----------------------
If you consider not "taking the is as an ought" and can live with the consequences, then you are fine.

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:28 PM (QTyrZ)

108 Dog one good on you.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 06:28 PM (4+AaH)

109 51

Harry Reid, somewhere along the way, sold his soul to the devil.

He ain't gettin' it back.

He will die a miserable man.


Alone and in horrid pain and fear.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 18, 2014 06:29 PM (shNkh)

110 103 Good Friday indeed. I got a job.
Posted by: Dog One is open at April 18, 2014 06:26 PM (MnC2P)



Awesome!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 06:29 PM (oMKp3)

111 The Obama years have been very very good for this class of investor


Indeed.

Posted by: John Corzine at April 18, 2014 06:30 PM (KgFhV)

112
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at April 18, 2014 06:27 PM (JACYy)

I am still convinced ethics got me.fired from my ethics job.
The only reason to persist with the moral (intentional) coil is because there are eternal concerns to contemplate.

Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at April 18, 2014 06:30 PM (WQLkn)

113 The only reason to persist with the moral (intentional) coil is because there are eternal concerns to contemplate.


Nonsense.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 06:31 PM (KgFhV)

114 I don't think that Obama and Holder consciously are saying, hey, let's give white people a taste of their own medicine

Yeah, well I do and they do it in spades. Its purposeful, its planned and its constant.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:31 PM (BrAHD)

115 Right now, Dr. Zhvago is showing on TMC. Great Book and movie. The romance is just window dressing, the march and horrors of the communists is the horror of the story, chillingly displayed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 06:31 PM (aDwsi)

116 Where I went to school, the Chaplain explained that the "turn the other cheek" verse is not about meekness, but defiance. Like, you hit me on my cheek? Well, here, hit the other one too!

Of course, I went to West Point so a lot of things were kind of explained in ways that might justify a martial man's existence.

But I think it's right anyway.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 06:32 PM (4+AaH)

117 Twice I've seen people disguise their voices and ID to discuss problems with their medical plans on local news. That was never necessary before Hope and Change.

Posted by: forest at April 18, 2014 06:33 PM (stMuz)

118 Congrats, Dog One!

Posted by: Y-not at April 18, 2014 06:34 PM (zDsvJ)

119 Yeah, well I do and they do it in spades. Its purposeful, its planned and its constant.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:31 PM (BrAHD)


Here is why I disagree. Because they let Liberal white people get away with it. Jon Corzine anyone? He's pretty damn white.

And I bet now that he is not in legal peril, he may have found a few of those billion or so dollars again.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 06:34 PM (4+AaH)

120 Right now, Dr. Zhvago is showing on TMC. Great Book and movie. The romance is just window dressing, the march and horrors of the communists is the horror of the story, chillingly displayed.
=======
I have it on Videodisc. I'll have to get around to watching it someday...

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:34 PM (MMC8r)

121 Meanwhile, Harry Reid -- who is more and more simply a monster

It's interesting to watch legislation and rules being formulated to prevent the sort of brain injuries that Harry Reid (former boxer) used to willingly incur on a daily basis.

Somebody needs to take the keys away from that dude before he hurts somebody. The brain is a terrible thing when wasted.

see also: John McCain

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 06:34 PM (oGrEy)

122 "The heretic Nazi Pelosi is washing the feet of illegal immigrant Mexicans."

In an episcopal church. It suggests that the stunt was turned down by Catholic clergy.

Posted by: Decaf at April 18, 2014 06:34 PM (ilbeM)

123 "106
This enemies list stuff is complicated. There is a cabal of investors
from the ivies who hold controlling interests in companies you may
consider conservative in nature





The Obama years have been very very good for this class of investor

Posted by: thunderb at April 18, 2014 06:28 PM (Pc0ub)"
But doesn't the Left do their thing by hurting lower-level people who disagree with such shrieking frenzy that anyone higher-ranking just keeps quiet if they disagree with the Left. Sure, Rush and other high-profile names don't keep quiet and the Left rarely even scuffs them because they're big names, but people lower on the totem pole just stay quiet. Brendan Eich had just gotten to the level where he was both big enough to matter and small enough to take down, that's why he was targeted. That's where the Right fails, at least one of the places, they don't "pick a target, freeze it" and whatever else that blabbermouth Alinsky said, at the lower-level. That woman who spied on Joe the Plumber never got half the Alinsky treatment she deserved. Like I've been implying, you people are too nice.

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:34 PM (QTyrZ)

124 When governments transgress against that freedom, they seek wrath. And they should get it.
Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:26 PM (QTyrZ)

You stated that, given His druthers,Christ would choose a gun over a length of rope to drive moneychangers from the Temple (he didn't drive out Pharisees, btw). I'm telling you your reasoning is flat-out wrong on that score. You sound as if you don't know Him very well. That can be addressed.

Further, you complain about the supposed pacifism of Christians, and would prefer a less turn-the-other-cheek approach. I frankly haven't seen the pacificistic approach you're talking about, at least not in the political sense. Most Americans, in fact, claim to be Christians of one sort or another. We fight when necessity dictates.

Actually, trying to discern your point at all is like trying to cut soup with a knife.

Posted by: troyriser at April 18, 2014 06:35 PM (2jF2B)

125
The fact that they can use some liberal white people to increase their power and their wealth does not disqualify what they do.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:36 PM (BrAHD)

126 The Kansas City highway shooter was.....a Hadji

I wonder how much coverage this will get on the big 3?

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 06:36 PM (thLL8)

127 Reid shows signs of serious mental illness.

Posted by: Pat at April 18, 2014 06:37 PM (KCg4m)

128 Dear Senator Reid,

I was so impressed with your personal dedication to the people of your great state. After the situation at the Bundy ranch strarted to look like things might turn violent, you went right to the front line and pleaded with both sides to stop a minute and say a prayer. And you stayed there until it was clear that cooler heads would prevail, and everyone could go back to their regular lives without fear of any violence.
But wait! You weren't there at all. I thought you must have been there from your descriptons of everything that happened, and who said what, and who was threatening violence to women and children. Actually, you waited until all was over, and then went on national TV braying like a big jackass that it isn't over.
Actually, you are nothing more than a little coward bully; a quivering pussy.

Yours ever most truly,
bergerbilder

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 06:37 PM (8MjqI)

129 I'd feel ever more sympathetic to Dr. K's pearl clutching if he hadn't been first in line to slam Christine O'Donnell AFTER won the GOP primary based on information leaked by people with access to her IRS file. Dr. K helped elect another dem to the senate, but better than then elect a witch, I guess.

Posted by: mysteryman at April 18, 2014 06:37 PM (UOAdG)

130 I don't think that Obama and Holder consciously are
saying, hey, let's give white people a taste of their own medicine, but I
don't doubt there is some amount of their experience informing them.






Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 06:27 PM (4+AaH)

I think giving whitey shit is the only thing that gives their miserable piece of shit lives any meaning. I think its what drives them from the minute they get up to the minute they go hang upside down to sleep.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 18, 2014 06:37 PM (FMbng)

131 The fact that they can use some liberal white people to increase their power and their wealth does not disqualify what they do.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:36 PM (BrAHD)


You could be right, but I think their altar is Liberalism not race. Race is a tool to liberal power - Liberalism is not the tool to racial power.

See Ben Carson, Condoleeza Rice, et al.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 06:37 PM (4+AaH)

132 "It's interesting to watch legislation and rules being formulated to prevent the sort of brain injuries that Harry Reid (former boxer) used to willingly incur on a daily basis."
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 06:34 PM (oGrEy)

Hey, easy there, I boxed amateur in my youth and...um...ah...what were we talking about?

Posted by: troyriser at April 18, 2014 06:37 PM (2jF2B)

133 Where I went to school, the Chaplain explained that the "turn the other cheek" verse is not about meekness, but defiance. Like, you hit me on my cheek? Well, here, hit the other one too!

True, but nobody understands what meek means anyway. Most people think it means submissive. It's more like gentle and easily entreated. I can be gentle and take other people's POV into consideration and not be a doormat.

I take the "go with them twain" instruction the same way. It's defiance. "You can force me to go with you a mile, but the second mile is all me, and I do it because I want to."

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 06:38 PM (2hTlI)

134 "The heretic Nazi Pelosi is washing the feet of illegal immigrant Mexicans."



In an episcopal church. It suggests that the stunt was turned down by Catholic clergy.

Posted by: Decaf at April 18, 2014 06:34 PM (ilbeM)


Is there no depth to which my former church won't sink? I hope she gets pinworms doing this.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 18, 2014 06:38 PM (TklsO)

135 Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 06:27 PM (4+AaH)

Great post blaster. When I lived in America, I used to naturally have great respect for law enforcement.

But now, the entire system scares the crap out of me. Prosecutors and government agencies with comparatively unlimited resources that can punish anyone that steps out of line using any obscure law. That's a system that can't break down fast enough.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 06:38 PM (AC0lD)

136 Imagine that douche bill ayers and what he would do with the levers of the US.

That is exactly what is happening. All over. It is that creepy.

Very creepy. I see it.

Its just like one of those 70s sci fi flicks, albeit worse.

Posted by: Rev dr e buzz healthcare at April 18, 2014 06:38 PM (K2KRO)

137
126 - Local Story; Nothing To See; Move Along.

Matthew Sheppard? STOP THE PRESSES!!11!! NASH-UH-NALL NEWZ!!11!!

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 18, 2014 06:39 PM (uopHF)

138 Reid shows signs of serious mental illness.
=====
It's either desperation because he sees he's going to lose the majority, or he's going full Howard Beale.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:39 PM (MMC8r)

139
OT kinda sorta

Speaking of Christian fighters, I just texted my Army kid and asked him what he was doing for this evening. He said he was getting ready to play handbells for Good Friday service. I asked him when he learned how to do that?!? He said, "about 5 minutes ago."

Should be a service to remember ......

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 06:40 PM (oMKp3)

140 Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 06:38 PM (2hTlI)

I thought "turn the other cheek" meant "kiss my ass".

Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2014 06:41 PM (ZNQKl)

141

We'll have to agree to disagree then, I think race IS the primary driver for those two.

I will state tho that liberals in the past used race to further liberalism, those two have switched it around.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:41 PM (BrAHD)

142 I think that's right. Liberalism is the goal. Race is the tool

Posted by: thunderb at April 18, 2014 06:41 PM (Pc0ub)

143 Where I went to school, the Chaplain explained that the "turn the other cheek" verse is not about meekness, but defiance. Like, you hit me on my cheek? Well, here, hit the other one too!

Back in those days, before toilet paper, a person had a 'clean' hand and an 'unclean' hand. (This practice actually continues to this day in parts of the mid-east.) Back to the point, to 'turn the cheek' forced the person to use their 'clean' hand to strike you, the filthy beast you are -- thereby defiling their clean hand.

I like to think of Jesus not as a pacifist, but a passive-aggressive agitator. Not in the Obama mold, which is progressive-agressive®.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 06:42 PM (oGrEy)

144 124

My point is why are you constantly losing? Or, if you are not losing, why do the comments here always seem to refer to a feeling of losing? Is it that every political faction in America thinks it's losing and you reflect that general trend? I take a more philosophical stance toward America and don't really care if it continues to exist or not, but it is a fascinating case study in a people letting its country slip into the hands of an ideology diametrically-opposed to its foundation. That happens a lot, it just hadn't happened here yet, until now. Aren't you in the least bit curious in doing a post-mortem?

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:42 PM (QTyrZ)

145 "
I like to think of Jesus not as a pacifist, but a
passive-aggressive agitator. Not in the Obama mold, which is
progressive-agressive®.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 06:42 PM (oGrEy)"---------------There was a reason why people feared Jesus would lead a revolution. In a world as violent as his, do you really think they feared a Gandhi-like revolution?

Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:43 PM (QTyrZ)

146 CK: I had not foreseen how donor lists would be used not to ferret out corruption but to pursue and persecute citizens with contrary views. Which corrupts the very idea of full disclosure.

I saw it coming right here:

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=293835#c6932451

"To the extent that signers want to avoid First Amendment activities like picketing by asserting their own First Amendment rights, the signers don't have a leg to stand on."
This is the important issue for me. Frankly, when Prop 8 passed in CA I wanted to know everyone that supported that offensive act in order to make sure I in no way contributed to their well being. That should be my right as a citizen.
Now, if I wanted to know it so that I could go and commit violence against them, then I would be a criminal and there are criminal laws to deal with that.
In a republic, laws are created by representatives accountable to the voters. But when you farm out that duty to ballot initiatives, who do you hold accountable? I'm not saying my side has to win every vote, but I want the option to picket and oppose those that voted against me.


The HQ morons were paying attention; CK didn't.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2014 06:44 PM (30eLQ)

147 Back in those days, before toilet paper, a person had a 'clean' hand and an 'unclean' hand. (This practice actually continues to this day in parts of the mid-east.) Back to the point, to 'turn the cheek' forced the person to use their 'clean' hand to strike you, the filthy beast you are -- thereby defiling their clean hand.

I'm going to show you my forehand slap, AND my backhand slap.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 06:45 PM (2hTlI)

148 *Rant Alert*

Not to sound like a male chauvinist, but a man has to do what a man has to do. If you cannot stand by your principles, then you have none. Should you wish your voice heard, then you must absorb the requisite slings and arrows of opposition: there must be a hill to die on; otherwise, life is a but a mere struggle for subsistence, and nobility dies instead. If you cannot bear the sting of the protestations of the foolish and self-indulgent, then be quiet, as you have no grounds for complaint: did not the Roman Empire progress, in but a generation, from the persecutions (and price-fixing) of Diocletian to the edicts of Constantine without the spilled blood of countless martyrs?

Would people like Boehner, McConnell, McCain, et al (and, yes, even Krauthammer) learn this lesson, we wouldn't be in such a national predicament, because the Republic ended when a man was too afraid to punch another man in the nose for a baseless effrontery without getting himself sued.

It's time to take a stand, fellows. You wanna see my donations? Have at it, and good luck to you, because I've made my peace and know who I am.

Posted by: ArmChair in sin at April 18, 2014 06:45 PM (BnOvL)

149 *ahem* to clarify, the anti-prop-8 fascist who originally posted that shit, wasn't me.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2014 06:46 PM (30eLQ)

150 I'm beginning to adjust my red hot hate for Jane Fonda. With her whining about growing old, I'm realizing she's just a spoiled but good looking brat. As such she's never really had to face any sort of reality and it's just possible she was totally unaware of the hurt and damage she did in Viet Nam.

There's no excuse for Harry Reid.

He's an exemplar of Boss Hogg like rural county execs/supervisors who throw their weight around and turn local small government into their personal fiefdom.

They're to be found all over the country (probably all over the world) and that he has the added fillip of being the most powerful Senator just adds to the frisson that his declaration that "this isn't over" and "they're domestic terrorists" is filled with portent of bad things happening to those at the center of the controversy.

He should be removed from office as soon as possible. He has a look of cruelty and that he enjoys making people fear him and having his threats carried out. The typical small town tyrant/bully.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 06:47 PM (JS0vr)

151 Aren't you in the least bit curious in doing a post-mortem?
Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzsche at April 18, 2014 06:42 PM (QTyrZ)

It ain't over yet. We ain't over yet.

Posted by: troyriser at April 18, 2014 06:47 PM (2jF2B)

152 Leave my friend Harry alone!

Posted by: Senator John McCain at April 18, 2014 06:48 PM (5ikDv)

153 If Cliven Bundy were REALLY a terrorist, Eric Holder would be acting as his personal attorney....

Posted by: Stu-22 at April 18, 2014 06:49 PM (KbrNh)

154 Speaking of enemies lists, those gay Hollywood pedarists were all Hillary bundlers and donors. I think their political activism is the reason they have NOT been prosecuted

Posted by: thunderb at April 18, 2014 06:49 PM (Pc0ub)

155 Where I went to school, the Chaplain explained that the "turn the other cheek" verse is not about meekness, but defiance. Like, you hit me on my cheek? Well, here, hit the other one too!

I once (and only once) heard it explained that "Turn the other cheek" was a reference to how someone would choose to strike a person they believed to be of lesser social status, with the back of the hand. By offering the other cheek you are in effect saying, "Treat me as an equal," ie, striking with the palm. Since I didn't live in that culture I have no idea if that's true, but it was a different take than I'd heard before.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 06:50 PM (0AKks)

156 It's not surprising that the same people who invented political correctness and speech codes would eventually begin seeking retribution against those who transgressed them.

Kraut shouldn't be so surprised. The Left has shattered the compact of 'you have the right to your own opinion.'

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:50 PM (MMC8r)

157 Kinda hard to criticize Reid for calling Bundy supporters domestic terrorists when you have Ed Morissey saying it's technically true. Course Ed won't have any of that when it comes to criticizing the Kochs, no sir, it's just not right to criticize people who give millions to R's, but hillbillies with guns? Yeah, technically true, funny how that works.

Posted by: booger at April 18, 2014 06:51 PM (xRDdL)

158
This seems newsworthy:

Poland and the United States will announce next week the deployment of
U.S. ground forces to Poland as part of an expansion of NATO presence in
Central and Eastern Europe in response to events in Ukraine. That was
the word from Poland’s defense minister, Tomasz Siemoniak, who visited
The Post Friday after meeting with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel at the
Pentagon on Thursday.”

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:53 PM (BrAHD)

159 Hairy Reed is so appallingly repulsive, so breathtakingly venal, so horrifically creepy. His dessicated-mummy voice makes my skin crawl. He is an affront to all that is good in this country. He is, as much as Bronc Bama, perhaps even more, the face of the progressive enemy we face right now. He is old, his soul a powdery residue in his brittle ribcage. Perhaps he feels he has nothing to lose playing Wormtongue in this terrible story.

Posted by: Arthur Cognomen at April 18, 2014 06:53 PM (RwwCT)

160 I hope Harry Reid's blood pressure is somewhere in the low 300s after all this.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:53 PM (MMC8r)

161
Maybe Tea Partiers should fight back, maybe publish Lois Lerners home address for picketing or something. I think sometimes liberals see their tactics use against them and the stop it or reduce it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 06:55 PM (BrAHD)

162
158

Give them back their anti-missile systems, too. There's a lot of pressure that can be applied to Putin through Poland.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:55 PM (MMC8r)

163 Being a modern liberal means not besting your opponent’s view but delegitimizing it. And having the power to do it.

Posted by: CJ at April 18, 2014 06:57 PM (jbdp1)

164 In a just world old Harry would be expiring with tertiary syphilis right about now.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 18, 2014 06:58 PM (wdHk6)

165 155 Where I went to school, the Chaplain explained that the "turn the other cheek" verse is not about meekness, but defiance. Like, you hit me on my cheek? Well, here, hit the other one too!

I once (and only once) heard it explained that "Turn the other cheek" was a reference to how someone would choose to strike a person they believed to be of lesser social status, with the back of the hand. By offering the other cheek you are in effect saying, "Treat me as an equal," ie, striking with the palm. Since I didn't live in that culture I have no idea if that's true, but it was a different take than I'd heard before.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 18, 2014 06:50 PM (0AKks)


No matter the interpretation I think one interpretation cuts across all others. Resistance. "I am not about to stop doing what caused you to slap me to begin with so tough luck."

Posted by: Buzzion at April 18, 2014 06:58 PM (LI48c)

166 "Perhaps we should start fighting back by:



not apologizing everytime a feminist gets upset"

Well, I'll believe the right is taking this seriously when I stop reading mewling arguments like "We're better than that," and "Using their methods makes us just as bad as they are." And yes, I do mean Ace (Sandra Fluke, anyone?) among others.





Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 18, 2014 06:59 PM (FkH4y)

167 Kinda hard to criticize Reid for calling Bundy
supporters domestic terrorists when you have Ed Morissey saying it's
technically true. Course Ed won't have any of that when it comes to
criticizing the Kochs, no sir, it's just not right to criticize people
who give millions to R's, but hillbillies with guns? Yeah, technically
true, funny how that works.

Posted by: booger at April 18, 2014 06:51 PM (xRDdL)


With Poppin' Fresh on our side, it's like being down a gazillion runs in the bottom of the ninth and some dorkus maximus in the dugout saying "In fairness, we can still win this".

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 18, 2014 07:02 PM (TklsO)

168 Ace, Harry Reid couldn't stop at calling Cliven Bundy and all his supporters "domestic terrorists" -- he had to also falsely accuse Bundy of "not paying his taxes" which is another outright lie.

Also, wrt politicians taking things "personally", did you hear the one today about the mayor of Peoria, IL?? He actually had the cops go after a guy who had a parody account on twitter -- they confiscated his property over it!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 18, 2014 07:03 PM (KL49F)

169 Maybe Bundy should run against Reid. That might make that cancerous leprechaun keel over dead.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 07:04 PM (MMC8r)

170 @159

Harry's heavenly reward would be Pluto, were it still a planet.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 07:06 PM (8MjqI)

171 I'm more angry at the GOP for not attacking the Donk use of enemy lists than I am at Donkey for having them.

I know the Democrats are evil, it's why I am GOP....

I am tired of the GOP being feckless against evil.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:07 PM (TE35l)

172 damn I killed a thread again...better than my heart I guess...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:10 PM (TE35l)

173 Screw this shit I'm moving to Kepler-186f. You know the f stands for....mhmm

Posted by: Regular Guy at April 18, 2014 07:12 PM (N3Al8)

174 173 Regular Guy at April 18, 2014 07:12 PM (N3Al

The FU stands for.... Harry Reid

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:13 PM (TE35l)

175 >>> Give them back their anti-missile systems, too. There's a lot of pressure that can be applied to Putin through Poland.
Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 06:55 PM (MMC8r)



Hell, give them nuclear missiles. None of this would be happening now if Ukraine hadn't let that silver-tounged devil Bill Clinton talk them out of their nukes. (In fairness to Ukraine, they aren't the only ones who lived to regret listening to Slick Willy.)

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 07:13 PM (8MjqI)

176 The thing about Ed Morissey is he's an idiot. A fat, bald idiot.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:14 PM (KgFhV)

177 Vox finally wrote something people will read


They asked porn stars how they told their parents they were porn stars


Journalism!

Posted by: thunderb at April 18, 2014 07:14 PM (Pc0ub)

178 Live Free or Die
What was given to me by a just God, my Rights as a Human on this Earth, cannot be taken away because some others say "it is so"
My Inalienable rights are not in their purvey no matter what Harry Reid or anyone else has to say

Posted by: Samuel_Adams at April 18, 2014 07:15 PM (Zz48T)

179 It all makes sense...when you understand that Barky was never a 'Community Organizer'.

He was an Agitator.

The Organizers brought him in to stir up crowds.
Barky couldn't organize a pissing match.

We are being Provoked.
We are being pushed and provoked on a daily basis.

Bullying...is another word for this.

They want people to become violent, so they can use the fullbrutal force of their powers against us.

The reason why the Bundy Ranch standoff sticks in their craws...is that it was basically 'passive resistance' that won the day.

Yes, some of the supporters and cowboys had arms with them...
But they didn't use them.
And the government goons were far more heavily armed than the citizen-supporters were.

This is why they backed down.
They knew that it would be seen as 'overkill' if they fired first.

When you lose your temper with someone who is bullying you...the bully usually wins.

Barky and Holder are like the bullies in school, who would start shit and then go..."What! I didn't do anything."

So I guess what I'm saying is, we should stay frosty and not give them what they want.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:15 PM (fAjDo)

180 176 garrett at April 18, 2014 07:14 PM (KgFhV)

However Nothing Says Lovin' Like Ed Morrissey poppin' out of your oven all fresh and warm though....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:16 PM (TE35l)

181
Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:13 PM (TE35l)
It would not surprise me ifthe Bundy travestyis the Ft.Sumter of our times. and yes FU to HR...

Posted by: Regular Guy at April 18, 2014 07:17 PM (N3Al8)

182 179 wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:15 PM (fAjDo)

Maybe, I can't help but wonder if the better answer is to give them 18 tons of shit and watch them dig for the pony in there.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:17 PM (TE35l)

183 "None of this would be happening now if Ukraine hadn't let that silver-tounged devil Bill Clinton talk them out of their nukes."

It wasn't just Clinton.

A lot of the "responsible moderate GOP", the Dick Lugar bunch, were also foursquare behind that bad deal.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 07:17 PM (noWW6)

184 My apologies to the fat and bald.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:17 PM (KgFhV)

185 The sad thing is, all it takes to stop this kind of bullying in its tracks is laughter. One CEO not folding under pressure, not apologizing, but mocking them to their faces. These Social Justice Warrior types aren't strong people. They know on some level that they have no power, that they're inferior and hateful, and they project this on others as leftists tend to do. They're narcissistic, Obama-type personalities. They can't handle public mockery because validation by others is their lifeblood.

We need more Breitbarts, more happy warriors who are not afraid to laugh at the outraged mobs. Don't be angry, don't be vindictive, but never stop laughing at them.

How ya feeling, sven?

Posted by: kartoffel at April 18, 2014 07:17 PM (sWwJZ)

186 Ed Morrissey. Conservatism's Kent Dorfman.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 07:18 PM (MMC8r)

187 185 kartoffel at April 18, 2014 07:17 PM (sWwJZ)

I'm fine actually.

Wife was on leave this week to spend time with lad and I....

I miss Breitbart, and the movement misses him-of course unlike the GOP "Happy Warrior" was not about ignoring evil....

mock it, laugh at it....but call it what it is.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:19 PM (TE35l)

188 Ed Morrissey. Conservatism's Margaret Cho Kent Dorfman.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:20 PM (KgFhV)

189 188 garrett at April 18, 2014 07:20 PM (KgFhV)

Ed Morrissey-Conservatism's Al Franken

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:20 PM (TE35l)

190 Hot Air;

You wanted Malkin.

You'd have settled for Doc Zero.

You got Ed Morissey.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:22 PM (KgFhV)

191 165 Buzzion at April 18, 2014 06:58 PM (LI48c)

Buzzion it was a tough answer, just like contra what the left tells you Jesus was not a wimp and he said "sell your cloak and get a sword"...

Plenty of Roman troops were Christian soldiers.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 18, 2014 07:23 PM (TE35l)

192 187...mock it, laugh at it....but call it what it is.

Exactly, sven.

And also...shine a giant flashlight on their dirty deeds.

Glad you're feeling better.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:23 PM (fAjDo)

193
Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:15 PM (fAjDo
Righteous!!

Posted by: Regular Guy at April 18, 2014 07:23 PM (N3Al8)

194 When you lose your temper with someone who is bullying you...the bully usually wins.

I disagree. When you throw that punch to the nose of the bully his body automatically reacts. His eyes fill with tears, his nose begins to bleed. Any onlooker realizes that the bully is merely mortal.

The bully will NEVER pick on the nose-puncher ever again. Because ALL have witnessed how he is mortal, his eyes fill with tears, his nose bleeds. The nose-puncher no longer fears the bully, as the bully will not once again take the chance, but will pick on someone less likely to fight back.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 07:25 PM (oGrEy)

195 Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:14 PM (KgFhV)

Good to hear my opinion vindicated by others.

Fat little prick banned me because I had the temerity to comment on how the site wasn't as good as it was before Town Haul took over.

And he did a douchebag move of berating me for my comment publicly AFTER he had banned my from commenting so that I couldn't retort back in explanation of what I had said.

Fat marshmallow bald hair cheapshot douche.

I hope he curls up every night in a ball whimpering over his lost soul.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 07:31 PM (JS0vr)

196 194...I disagree. When you throw that punch to the nose of the bully his body automatically reacts. His eyes fill with tears, his nose begins to bleed. Any onlooker realizes that the bully is merely mortal.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron

-----------

This works...when the bully is on equal footing with you,with respect to having Power over you.

What if the bully is your Boss?
Or what if the bully is a Police Force?

And what if the bully has the full backing of the media, which covers upthe bullying?

You have to take a different tact, as far as confronting them.

Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:32 PM (fAjDo)

197 Ed Morrisey - conservatism's Pajama Boy.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 18, 2014 07:32 PM (8MjqI)

198 Civility ended when people voted to kill babies.

Posted by: Madamex at April 18, 2014 07:33 PM (vaWdD)

199 Civility ended when it became profitable to be a victim.

That started with Affirmative Action.

Then the Feminists got on the gravy train.

And it's been downhill ever since.

White redneck males are the last non victims in the country.

Every one else has their day or week or month and their own Office of Boo Hoo My Feelings Got Hurt Mommy to go beat up on whoever said something they didn't like.

Only the Government never responds fast enough so the victims started taking the quasi-law into their quasi-hands and boom instant vigilantes.

Ready to pile on at a moment's notice or even whiff of butt hurt by one of their own or other special snow flake.

George Patton would have a sprained wrist by now slapping all the bitches we've spawned.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 07:39 PM (JS0vr)

200 Posted by: wheatie at April 18, 2014 07:15 PM (fAjDo

I was reading that the Bundy side thinks the 20 BLM were a sacrifice. They were the ones who would not have survived. The management was far away behind bunkers. That they were sent to be killed by Obama to get the match lit.

Posted by: Madamex at April 18, 2014 07:40 PM (vaWdD)

201 This works...when the bully is on equal footing with you, with respect to having Power over you.


Which is why we need to restore equal footing. "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."

This government wants to spend more money then it takes in, year after year, to attempt to maintain a facade of higher footing over its citizens.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 07:43 PM (oGrEy)

202 That's two posts that refer to Sen. Sheldon Whitehorse. Did I miss the setup for this joke or do you not know his name is Whitehouse?

Posted by: In the bunker at April 18, 2014 08:02 PM (lFQfB)

203 Shit. Sock

You're pulling them up too far.

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 08:23 PM (DL2i+)

204 > "it seeks to regulate the minutiae of citizens’ lives with all the terrible moral ferocity of David Frum on a Tuesday afternoon espresso bender."

Somebody get Frum some aloe for that burn.

Posted by: Brewdog at April 18, 2014 08:26 PM (TZVis)

205 That's why it should be called the dark side. I'm prepared, but scared at the same time.

Posted by: hardcore at April 18, 2014 09:07 PM (E1Ihc)

206 176 The thing about Ed Morissey is he's an idiot. A fat, bald idiot.

He's a pussy. A milquetoast, wanna-be butt sniffer for the Chamber of Commerce Republicans. He's most terrified of comments which might offend the muckity mucks in DC who he desperately wishes would let him into their private treehouse.

Reid made his "domestic terrorist" comments as a pretext to using the full force of the Feds and NDAA indefinite detention on the communist's enemies - ie non-enslaved White America. They've war gamed it since Weather Underground's Billy Ayers was coercing white coeds to sleep with black thugs, lest they be viewed as "racist" by the vanguard.

Go on Democratic Underground and read the comments. The 1000-yard stare folks are frothing at the mouth in hopes of seeing us all slaughtered. Don't expect any minority help. You racist Whites built it, now they want it.

Tired of being nice yet?

Posted by: YourMomKeepsTexting at April 18, 2014 09:27 PM (Uug4p)

AoSHQ Podcast: Guest, Jonah Goldberg

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Profanity Note (Ace): After weeks of very little cursing, we curse a lot in this one.

I mean, I curse a lot. It wasn't planned or anything.

Posted by: Andy at 05:03 PM



Comments

1 !

Posted by: m at April 18, 2014 05:06 PM (2AqeI)

2 OK then the animals are OK.

Do an Ewok be an animal?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 05:06 PM (0FSuD)

3 No animals were harmed?
What about cisnormative microagressions?

Posted by: wooga at April 18, 2014 05:08 PM (6KuDG)

4 Isn't it about time for some Filipino to stumble in with nails in his hand?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 05:08 PM (0FSuD)

5 It's weird seeing TV people -- ie real people -- here on the HQ.

Ace and the cobs are mostly just invisible, imaginary people in my computer who may, or may not, be actual real people.

But Jonah and Perino are on my TV. That's different. That's real.

This is like when Stan Lee shows up in the Marvel movies. Stan Lee is an actual real dude. It's confusing in my brain.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 05:10 PM (ZPrif)

6 SpaceX press conference is on NASA TV right now.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 05:10 PM (zoehZ)

7 Red Planet Preppers!
Now that was a band!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 18, 2014 05:10 PM (08Znv)

8 Oh, I just sent this to the "Ask The Blog" address, but Jill Biden's degree is even more bogus and shitty than he describes:

http://tinyurl.com/mger9td

She does not have a Ph.D. in education. Such things are possible but, thank heaven, quite rare. For a Ph.D., one is supposed to "create new knowledge" which is what has caused the general decline in the humanities. You can't "create new knowledge" by enjoying Shakespeare a whole lot and reading other peoples' conventional opinions of his work. You can by writing yet another treatise on some aspect of classism, racism, speciesism, etc., etc., etc.

Jill Biden has a Doctorate of Education in "Educational Leadership".

That's right. And it's pretty much exactly what you think it is if you follow the link.

While a Ph.D. generally consists of 5 years of full-time work, culminating in a dissertation, an Ed.D. generally (and specifically in this case, if you follow the link) consists of 3-4 years of part-time work, culminating in...a portfolio.

It's a cruel joke to call it a doctorate degree. I'd say it's a glorified Master's, but I can't think of a Master's degree that's even this easy.

Maybe a Master's in Education is.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 05:11 PM (T0NGe)

9 Private army of Harry Reid is what is obsessing me right now. BLM is owned by Reid and there is only one more landowner between Reid and outright ownership of 85% of Nevada. How many divisions does BLM have -- especially compared to regular people?

The Senator owns his own army.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at April 18, 2014 05:11 PM (MIKMs)

10 During the podcast, Jonah refers to Truthers as "Fuckwads", a technical term describing people who don't understand the effect massive increases in heat has on steel. See, I learned something technical, and my brother thinks I cannot. I am so eager for Thanksgiving so I can show off my new knowledge.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 05:13 PM (F58x4)

11 Has Ace endorsed Jeb Bush yet?

Posted by: Beto at April 18, 2014 05:13 PM (/vO0r)

12 Since I saw some music mentioned I will share what I saw today....there was a pickup in a fender bender next to the stoplight I was at. The license plate said J Jett. On his back window he had a huge picture of Joan Jett right in the center, then in all 4 corners he had pictures of Joan Jett. Also on either side of his big picture of her he had Joan Jett and the Blackhearts written out with little black hearts around it. The driver of this vehicle was a "seasoned citizen" with gray hair. My favorite part was his black jacket with.......wait for it.........Joan Jett written in big letters on the back. Now that's a fan

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 05:14 PM (wqh09)

13 I'm just glad you fuckers were back to using profane language this week. Jonah drops a shit and Ace can stop saying Fucker there rest of the cast.

Posted by: Zakn at April 18, 2014 05:14 PM (7F9i5)

14 Anyone going to fess up to coining NRinO?

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 05:14 PM (m2CN7)

15 I'd listen but it's one of my many, many triggers.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 05:16 PM (5UteM)

16 If you compare all the guests this podcast has, it looks like Ace of Spades is the Frat/Flophouse side of NRO.

Thinks they know something, but too drunk to write it for a magazine.

Posted by: Drunk Moron at April 18, 2014 05:17 PM (7F9i5)

17 Has the Rand bashing begun?

Posted by: Beto at April 18, 2014 05:17 PM (/vO0r)

18 Isn't it about time for some Filipino to stumble in with nails in his hand?

This will be part of an upcoming three part series during 'sweeps week' that will highlight the fact that this sort of behavior will be the norm, in fact expected, under a fundamentalist Christian administration of Cuban Ted Cruz.

You heard it here first.

Posted by: The MSM at April 18, 2014 05:19 PM (oGrEy)

19
8 -

I've seen that in a number of different fields, where nobody really needs more than a Master's degree. The doctoral degrees seem to be mostly bogus, and the people who pursue them are mostly full of it, to the point where they get their doctoral degrees, apparently just so they can call themselves doctors.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 05:20 PM (TOk1P)

20 President Obama on Friday signed into law a bill authored by Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz that would bar an Iranian diplomat from entering the United States, but immediately issued a statement saying he won't enforce it.

Obama decided to treat the law as mere advice.

-
Oh, I see. Just advice. Like the constitution.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 18, 2014 05:21 PM (XUKZU)

21 Hey, Anna, are you around? :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 18, 2014 05:23 PM (9W+0f)

22 I hope you're happy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 18, 2014 05:23 PM (9W+0f)

23 Is Goldberg as funny as he thinks he is?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 18, 2014 05:24 PM (zPTIw)

24 About this and Teutonburg. :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 18, 2014 05:24 PM (9W+0f)

25 I know he's trying to reduce his profanity but any podcast is incomplete without Ace dropping a "bullshit".

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 18, 2014 05:24 PM (/djtm)

26 Anyway, that's all I've got for now, so I hope it's sort of funny. :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 18, 2014 05:25 PM (9W+0f)

27 I LOL'd.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 18, 2014 05:25 PM (/djtm)

28 12Now that's a fan

Posted by: Molly k. at April 18, 2014 05:14 PM (wqh09)


Or a stalker.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 05:26 PM (zoehZ)

29 "27 I LOL'd.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 18, 2014 05:25 PM (/djtm)"

Thanks. :-]

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 18, 2014 05:26 PM (9W+0f)

30 "National Review Online's Jonah Goldberg joins Ace, Drew, John and me for cocktails and banter and cocktails."

This is improper according to the AoSHQ Stylebook. Please rewrite:

"National Review Online's Jonah Goldberg joins Ace, Drew, John and me for cocktails and banter but mostly cocktails."

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel, Premium Membership Plan at April 18, 2014 05:27 PM (1CroS)

31 How many "um"'s and "Looks" from Goldberg? Over/
under is 12.5 altogether.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 18, 2014 05:29 PM (QxQzs)

32 Looks like it's going to be a slow thread.



Later, all.

God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 18, 2014 05:29 PM (9W+0f)

33 Jonah Goldberg is teh awesome. I've read his stuff, and he is fucking smart.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 05:30 PM (bb5+k)

34 "Um, look..." only counts as one...fyi.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 18, 2014 05:30 PM (QxQzs)

35 Kudos to stitcher which is like fucking magic.

Posted by: scottst at April 18, 2014 05:31 PM (37ELS)

36 The doctoral degrees seem to be mostly bogus, and the people who pursue them are mostly full of it, to the point where they get their doctoral degrees, apparently just so they can call themselves doctors.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 05:20 PM (TOk1P)


The funny thing is that the AP style guide says that the only people who should be referred to as "Doctor" are medical doctors. Even Ph.D.s.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 05:32 PM (T0NGe)

37 I'd break buds with Jonah Goldberg.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 18, 2014 05:32 PM (is0hY)

38 His book 'Liberal Fascism' is excellent. Was reading it in an airport bar a number of years ago. Got into an interesting discussion with a Cali moonbat. Gawd those people are stupid.

Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2014 05:32 PM (Z1SI2)

39 When are you gonna have me on ace?

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at April 18, 2014 05:32 PM (32Ze2)

40 A lot by normal human standards or a lot by Horde standards or a lot by my standards? Because those vary just a tad.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at April 18, 2014 05:32 PM (JACYy)

41 This obviously strategic communications.
This is probably part of that "stray voltage" theory. Reid is willing to be a public idiot/asshole just to put that Tea Party=Terrorists meme out there.

Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers
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Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 05:33 PM (ZPrif)

42 Define normal human to the horde.

Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2014 05:34 PM (Z1SI2)

43 Metaphorically, AoSHQ is the bench research arm of the scientific community. Ideas are tested, roughly, and that which shows signs of productive use are absorbed by the acceptable venues to be polished for general consumption.

And then the Idiocracy ignores it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 18, 2014 05:34 PM (1CroS)

44 Define normal human to the horde.

Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2014 05:34 PM (Z1SI2)

/scratches
/awaits

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 05:35 PM (x3YFz)

45 Got the podcast going right now. Can't wait to see if Drew identifies on the doll where Mitt Romney touched him.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 05:36 PM (ZshNr)

46 Metaphorically, AoSHQ is the bench research arm of the scientific community. Ideas are tested, roughly, and that which shows signs of productive use are absorbed by the acceptable venues to be polished for general consumption.

And then the Idiocracy ignores it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 18, 2014 05:34 PM (1CroS)

We Are Bridge Four!

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 05:36 PM (x3YFz)

47 How many "um"'s and "Looks" from Goldberg? Over/
under is 12.5 altogether.

Posted by: occam's brassiere


Wow. Just how many times did Jonah take a shit in your pillowcase at college?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2014 05:37 PM (ujux6)

48 Um, look...that's none of your business.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 18, 2014 05:39 PM (qbTcd)

49 "Jill Biden has a Doctorate of Education in 'Educational Leadership'. That's right. And it's pretty much exactly what you think it is if you follow the link."

Even the genuine Ph.D programs in edumacation these days are a complete joke.

I read a firsthand account at one point by someone who had infiltrated the program at their local university, trying to find out if things were as bad as they seemed, and finding that the actual situation was even worse than it seemed.

The work required for that doctorate is trifling in amount, and has essentially no rigor whatsoever, beyond dutifully parroting various progressive catch phrases.


Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 05:41 PM (noWW6)

50 Define normal human to the horde.

Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2014 05:34 PM (Z1SI2)


For purposes of this discussion only the term normal human shall refer to a member of the human species specifically to such a member who would be willing not to say eager to punch you in the face for using such language in front of Aunt Millie at Easter Dinner.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at April 18, 2014 05:43 PM (JACYy)

51 When are you gonna have me on ace?
Posted by: Marcel Marceau



ISWYDT.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 05:44 PM (8D0/R)

52 19
8 -

I've seen that in a number of different fields, where nobody really needs more than a Master's degree. The doctoral degrees seem to be mostly bogus, and the people who pursue them are mostly full of it, to the point where they get their doctoral degrees, apparently just so they can call themselves doctors.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 05:20 PM (TOk1P)

BS= bull shit
MS= more shit
PhD= pile higher deeper

Posted by: Buzzion at April 18, 2014 05:49 PM (qSXr2)

53 Reach down ..., between my legs ..., and ease the seat back.

Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at April 18, 2014 05:50 PM (wIEXv)

54 I would never say that in front ofAunt Millie at Easter. Or Grandma. Not on Easter anyway.

Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2014 05:51 PM (Z1SI2)

55 torquewrench: "The work required for that doctorate is trifling in amount, and has essentially no rigor whatsoever, beyond dutifully parroting various progressive catch phrases."

I think this the natural progression - extension, really - of the progressing American educational system. Compare the high school diploma of today to the one from the '50s. College must now fill-in for the educational void left by our faltering and misguided K-12 institutions. Now, it would appear, that Masters and PhDs are needed to fill the void left from acquiring a Bachelors. The lowering of the common denominators in order to ensure that "everyone must have a college degree" has diluted the value of the very thing so "essential" to being considered educated. The insult to injury, of course, is that participants must now accumulate great debt to get a weaker ply of paper AND pay inflated prices for it because it is so heavily subsidized by the government that universities need not restrain fees.

The DOOM will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 18, 2014 05:52 PM (1CroS)

56 "BS= bull shot
MS= more shot
PhD= pile higher deeper"

Um, the tyranny of cliche. Look, Jonah would be proud?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 18, 2014 05:55 PM (4Erqm)

57 Two weeks in a row with big time guest! Is this place starting to get respectable?

And, two weeks in a row that the podcast was very entertaining; top notch even. Keep up the good stuff.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2014 05:56 PM (IN7k+)

58 Yeah, if they keep this up we are all going to have to keep our pants on.

Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2014 05:57 PM (Z1SI2)

59 Infidel: "Yeah, if they keep this up we are all going to have to keep our pants on."

At which point I'm canceling my Premium Membership. Canceling I say!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel, Premium Membership Plan at April 18, 2014 05:59 PM (1CroS)

60 Stupid autocorrect not liking me use shit.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 18, 2014 05:59 PM (qSXr2)

61 [Insert Lie Here]

Posted by: Barack Obama (Approves This Message) at April 18, 2014 06:05 PM (1CroS)

62 Fret not, buzzion, autosyntax will arrive someday.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 18, 2014 06:06 PM (hglGK)

63 Worst Podcast Ever...

-Comic book Guy

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 06:09 PM (ZshNr)

64 "At which point I'm canceling my Premium Membership."

Remember, you have to eat the return shipping cost on all unused ampersands.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 06:13 PM (noWW6)

65 Fantastic that you got him. Can't wait to listen tonight.

Posted by: Dave S. at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (h1gQR)

66 Tolerant, loving "Freedom from religion" folks at it again-this time in WI-because they couldn't possibly allow people to celebrate Christian holidays in peace.

When they erect anti Islam, anti Mohammed signs in Dearborn please let me know.

http://tinyurl.com/kawckme

And what is this nonsense about "Jesus Christ is a myth". Are they seriously suggesting that Jesus Christ didn't ever exist?!. Even an Agnostic non believer in Jesus' resurrection Bart Ehrmann thinks it's ludicrous to suggest Jesus never existed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2014 06:15 PM (XyM/Y)

67 I listen to a lot of podcasts, and Ace of Spades has moved to the top of my list. Just fantastic stuff. They don't interrupt with live-read commercials, which I like, but the capitalist in me wants them to make some money off it since it's so good.

Keep it up. I think the podcast reputation is building--first Dana and now Jonah.

Be prepared for some laugh-out-loud moments. I had them while listening at the gym and looked like a moron a few times, especially during the "piss boy" discussion and Ace improving a caller to "The Dr. Jill Show".

Posted by: T-Lo at April 18, 2014 06:36 PM (zeF44)

68 Loling at work with that 'Guess what's in my hand' comment. With ace (and Jonah as well) going blue you don't really notice Gab'es absence so much.

Posted by: waelse1 at April 18, 2014 06:37 PM (j3mix)

69 thanks for the encouragement!

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 06:39 PM (/FnUH)

70 >>>Loling at work with that 'Guess what's in my hand' comment.

i think that came from a commenter named "Dang."

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 06:39 PM (/FnUH)

71 Posted by: T-Lo at April 18, 2014 06:36 PM (zeF44)

Thanks and I'm not going to lie...I've wanted to "meet" Jonah for years and spending 3 minutes doing "piss boy" jokes is EXACTLY how I imaged it would go.

One item off the old bucket list!

Posted by: DrewM. at April 18, 2014 06:40 PM (r5Qcm)

72 Jonah was a great guest.

Nice job, guys.

Posted by: garrett at April 18, 2014 07:03 PM (KgFhV)

73 Spoiler: pretty sure Jonah get a BJ during quick hits

Posted by: fabio at April 18, 2014 07:10 PM (uxJMc)

74 I listened to the podcast this morning. Pretty tame, language-wise until after a few minutes in, Goldberg said "sh*t" and then it was like that scene in "The Vikings" when Ernest Borgnine jumped into the wolf pit.

Posted by: mrp at April 18, 2014 07:14 PM (JBggj)

75 I listened to the whole thing. Since this is, I think, only the second time I've done so, I doubt my advice would be heeded. But I think it needs to be tightened up--perhaps there should be a theme with each guest, such as discussing his or her new book, a big story they've been a part of, or something to kind of base the episode around.

As it is, I felt myself drifting in and out of listening. Of course, I do that with the works of Mozart as well, so that probably means you guys are all awesome and stuff.

Posted by: Null at April 18, 2014 08:11 PM (xjpRj)

76 One of the best podcasts ever (IMHO).

Posted by: dweezil at April 18, 2014 10:30 PM (8lVG1)

77 Best episode of the podcast so far.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 18, 2014 10:45 PM (102Hx)

78 Another great podcast, guys!
Thanks.

Posted by: wheatie at April 19, 2014 12:34 AM (fAjDo)

Preppin' on Mars: The Martian by Andy Weir

Brief book review. I read this a while ago. It's pretty good.

The premise -- which is a bit dodgy, but I'll grant the writer some latitude in establishing his premise -- is that a single member of a Mars exploration crew is left behind, presumed dead, when the entire team evacuates during a high-powered windstorm that threatens to destroy their camp.

The lone survivor -- the "Martian" of the title -- regains consciousness and takes stock of his situation. There is no possible hope of rescue for four years. He has enough food for something like 300 days (50 days of food for each of the six planned crewmen). So he has to extend his 300 days of food into something like 1450 days.

I mean 1450 "sols." You can't say "day" because a day is an actual measure of time corresponding to 24 hours. A Martian "day" is not the same length of an earth day (though it's pretty damn close), so instead it's called a "sol," which I guess is short for solar cycle.

The "Martian" basically becomes a Prepper. He uses almost all of the floorspace of his habitation unit -- and almost all of his excrement -- as a makeshift farm for growing the highest-energy-density food possible, potatoes. He realizes he also won't have enough water to grow his potatoes, so he's forced to engage in some dangerous chemistry to synthesize hundreds of liters of water out of oxygen and... rocket fuel. And he has to do perform various cannibalizations and modifications to his Mars Rover Vehicles, because his only hope of escape -- 1450 sols down the road -- is making a dangerous and lengthy overland journey over the perilously high/abyssally low Martian terrain to the site of the anticipated landing zone for the next Mars mission.

It's a pretty fun adventure/survival/settler book. (The book does not mention it at all, but it does suggest to a reader (or at least this reader) the travails faced by the early American colonists, or the Antarctic explorers. It's just kind of implicit in this sort of story, without having to be mentioned.)

It's mostly a collection of his diary entries while on Mars. I always feel this is a cheat, because it permits a writer to resort to a very bloggy, casual style of writing in which very little work is exerted. But it mostly works, and I guess is justifiable. This sort of epistolatory novel has a long tradition, after all. Robinson Crusoe was also journal entries, if I remember from the last time I read it. (When I say "I read it" I mean I briefly skimmed the Wikipedia entry.)

But the writer finds this format -- an epistolatory novel consisting of nothing but "found documents" like journal entries or government memoranda -- constraining at times, and then breaks into a conventional third-person omniscient narrative, which is jarring for a couple of reasons. First, just because it's breaking the journal format established earlier, and second, because Weir is, well, his Third Person Narrator style of writing is just as slapdash as his First Person Blog Account style.

It's actually a lot worse, because at least the First Person Blog Account permits a lot of humor (his "Martian" is very jokey) and we don't expect a high degree of literary craft in a journal entry.

But when you switch over to Third Person Narrator, well now that's the actual author of the book writing it, and you don't cut him slack for not being much of a stylist.

In addition, these Third Person Narrator accounts are mostly set on earth, concerning earth officials' efforts to get the stranded "Martian" back to earth, and the read, unfortunately, like those old sci-fi magazine stories in which characters pretty much just speak to each other about Plot Conceits with some occasional Science and Engineering Fan Service thrown in.

And then, when you begin to wish for some actual characterization in these parts, he offers the bare minimum of check-that-box characterization, and you wish he hadn't even bothered.

In fact, I kept thinking as I read these parts: they're so badly written, without any real effort to make these characters seem alive and real, that he really should have stuck to the Full Epistolatory Format and just made these memoranda or minutes from meetings. If he'd done that, the lack of characterization or versimilitude wouldn't be a problem; it would be a virtue. Meetings of NASA meetings aren't supposed to contain a lot of extraneous character information, after all.

There are also a few patches of Very Convenient Plotting Syndrome. These were especially grating because, mostly, they didn't seem necessary-- they have to do with narrative convenience (and, at times, narrative laziness). They don't really affect the main plot that much, which makes the appearance of bits of This Is What Happens Because I Said So more unfortunate.

That said, the book is just fun. Sure, the first person journal account is not the best way to describe the long ride in the MRV near the climax. I would have preferred a Third Person account there, to better convey the wonder of driving through Mars' red dust, down its mile-deep ravines.

And sure, here and there it's written so craftlessly it gets distracting.

But the story is just undeniable fun. The situation is inherently interesting.

And the main character is admirable: There's just no quit in him, and he never gets down. I would have liked him to be more depressed at the beginning, so that his resolution to Just Survive would be more dramatic, but the character winds up being that type who wouldn't get that depressed.

Surviving on Mars for four years, despite only having provisions for 100 sols, is just a problem that needs to be worked through. There's no point crying about it, there's no point blaming the crew that left him behind, and there's no point cursing NASA and God. Just Get On With It. Just do what you need to do, get through the next 30 days so you can then plot how to get through the next thirty. Just keep calm and carry on.

And if you blow up your habitation unit while playing around with your rocket fuel chemistry experiment, you don't cry about it like a baby. When you regain consciousness, you just get out the Duck Tape and start fixin' the thing.

So while at first I wanted more of a depression to seize him, as I read the book I liked the way the character was actually written better. He's an astronaut, after all, and he's not an Everyman. He's the sort of guy who signed up for this years-long, high-chance-of-death mission in the first place.

He's not going to be like I would be in this situation -- fortunately for him, because I just would have eaten the 100 sols of food in 50 days and then hung myself from the radio mast.

Which would have been stupid, because the gravity wouldn't have been enough to do a proper job of strangling me. So I would have f***ed that up too. (By the way, the author uses the f word a lot.)

Overall, it's about Mars, it's about survival, it's about preppin', it's about just shutting up with the complaints and working on the problem at hand.

It's pretty good. There are worst ways to spend a coupla-three nights, and most of those involve the televison.

DIY: Commenters have made me aware of something I didn't previously know -- the book was self-published on Amazon for 99 cents before being bought up by a real publisher (and now sells for $9.99).

It's also been optioned for a movie.

Kind of cool.

I now sort of understand why at times this reads like a book written by an amateur that wasn't professionally edited -- because that's what it is.

Still, flaws and all, it stands on its strengths.

Posted by: Ace at 04:31 PM



Comments

1 first?

Posted by: mallfly at April 18, 2014 04:32 PM (bJm7W)

2 yaaay. It's a good Friday after all.

Posted by: mallfly at April 18, 2014 04:33 PM (bJm7W)

3 I always liked the old movie " Robinson Carusoe on Mars" .

Posted by: steevy at April 18, 2014 04:34 PM (zqvg6)

4 NOW'S one sentence review :


"I guess the patriarchy rules Mars as well."



Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 04:35 PM (5UteM)

5 lulz on the radio mast. That was funny shiite.

Posted by: Bosk at April 18, 2014 04:35 PM (n2K+4)

6 You know ace is rifling through the val-u-rite cabinet and coming up empty when he starts the sunday book thread on friday.

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:35 PM (x3YFz)

7 Surviving on Mars for four years, despite only having provisions for 100
sols, is just a problem that needs to be worked through. There's no
point crying about it, there's no point blaming the crew that left him
behind, and there's no point cursing NASA and God. Just Get On With It.
Just do what you need to do, get through the next 30 days so you can
then plot how to get through the next thirty. Just keep calm and carry
on.



Redneck would just go hunting and fishing.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:36 PM (d0Dmj)

8 Ace, you find martian hobos and use their blood and rocket fuel to synthesize valu-rite.

Posted by: Penfold at April 18, 2014 04:36 PM (Fbt5B)

9 so he's looking forward to eating potatoes for 4 years? Reminds me of Yosemite Sam shipwrecked with nothing to eat but coconuts. Could be funny after all.

Posted by: mallfly at April 18, 2014 04:36 PM (bJm7W)

10 Blah, blah blah.

Does he get the girl?

Posted by: fluffy at April 18, 2014 04:38 PM (Ua6T/)

11 You know ace is rifling through the val-u-rite cabinet and coming up empty when he starts the sunday book thread on friday gets out of bed.
Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:35 PM (x3YFz)


FIFY

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 04:38 PM (yz6yg)

12 so he's looking forward to eating potatoes for 4 years? Reminds me of Yosemite Sam shipwrecked with nothing to eat but coconuts.



Is the Martian Irish?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:38 PM (d0Dmj)

13 Yeah, if most of humanity were 60s and 70s era engineer Astronaut type ... the world would be a lot better place. It'd be richer, more productive, vastly less crime filled.

It'd be a bit boring perhaps. Perhaps less interesting music and movies and entertainment and art.

I'll trade honest, hardworking, industrious, intelligent and diligent for interestingly violent and moody.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 04:39 PM (ZPrif)

14 $9.99 for the Kindle edition


http://is.gd/2dvLHZ

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 04:39 PM (T2V/1)

15 Did the Martian have a volleyball named Wilson?

Posted by: Matticus at April 18, 2014 04:40 PM (0Mr4u)

16 Martian Irish?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:38 PM (d0Dmj)

Mohammad Zen O'Connolly

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:40 PM (x3YFz)

17 "and there's no point cursing NASA"

Would anyone here, writing the same novel today, use NASA as the organization that gets a man to Mars?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 04:40 PM (AC0lD)

18 ***Spoiler Alert***



He dies after 30 days.




Boating accident.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 04:40 PM (fsLdt)

19
I've got an old Norwegian recipe for potato dumplings. They're so heavy, you eat one and you don't want to eat anything again for at least four days. He coulda used that.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 04:41 PM (oMKp3)

20 Potatoes make wodka, yes?

Posted by: RolandTHTG at April 18, 2014 04:41 PM (QM5S2)

21 LOL, this book must have been out for a while. There are over 3100 reviews for it on Amazon. Also rated high.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 04:41 PM (T2V/1)

22
And the main character is admirable: There's just no quit in him, and he never gets down.

Hmm. I'd have used all those mad prepping skills to distill gin and spend 50 sols drinking and fapping and waiting for the end to come.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 04:42 PM (JtwS4)

23 I always liked the old movie " Robinson Carusoe on Mars" .

Me too. I was sad Batman got killed and was just a skeleton.

That poor monkey. When it farted it made a "mooo" sound.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 18, 2014 04:42 PM (pgQxn)

24
John Campbell did something like that.
"The Moon is Hell"
http://tinyurl.com/lqace5a

Lunar expedition has been there a while. They eagerly wait for the rocket to land that will take them back to earth.
It blows up on landing.

The plan was for ALL of them to return so they didn't have a lot of supplies left over.

It's in diary format.

First part - get air
Second part - food.

Quite thrilling.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 18, 2014 04:42 PM (h53OH)

25 So, Ace. . .
would you critique my book?
I can't get anyone else to read it.

I just need an honest opinion. Should I finish the second one?

Posted by: Smith at April 18, 2014 04:42 PM (DLc/A)

26 Ok, that's so brazen it's kinda funny.

Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers
Obama Signs Ted Cruz’s Law Banning Iran’s UN Ambassador ... Then Says He Won’t Enforce It… http://shar.es/TjE6M

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 04:42 PM (ZPrif)

27 It'd be a bit boring perhaps. Perhaps less interesting music and movies and entertainment and art.

I'll trade honest, hardworking, industrious, intelligent and diligent for interestingly violent and moody.



Do go on...

Posted by: Johan Sebastian Bach at April 18, 2014 04:42 PM (Ua6T/)

28 Robinson Caruso did awesome duets with Fridayrotti.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 18, 2014 04:43 PM (ZMzpb)

29 That review reminds me of Chevy Chase's wife's review of his book in the movie Funny Farm. When Chevy asks what she thinks of his opus she starts crying.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 04:43 PM (5UteM)

30 Hmm. I'd have used all those mad prepping skills to distill gin and spend 50 sols drinking and fapping and waiting for the end to come.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 04:42 PM (JtwS4)

Kinda like every day here on Earth, eh?

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:43 PM (x3YFz)

31 If you ferment those potatoes and then distill them, you get an even higher energy dense food -- Val-U-Rite.

This would be part of MY plan.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 18, 2014 04:44 PM (cHZB7)

32 I'll trade honest, hardworking, industrious, intelligent and diligent for interestingly violent and moody.

___

Hmm. 2 out of 7 is a fail, right?

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:44 PM (x3YFz)

33 >>>First part - get air
Second part - food.

sounds tougher than this one.

this guy has all the oxygen he wants thanks to what I assume is a fantasy technology, the "oxygenator," which can split as much oxygen from Mars' CO2 as you'd like.*

* I mean, I know this is possible, but the specific device itself is fantasy.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:44 PM (/FnUH)

34 He had best hope he will not be in a containment that depressurizes. He will get all "bug-eyed" like Arnie.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 04:45 PM (T2V/1)

35 33 * I mean, I know this is possible, but the specific device itself is fantasy.





Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:44 PM (/FnUH)

Not so much Ace. Subs have long had scrubbers that would take out CO2 and clean up the air.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 04:46 PM (T2V/1)

36 So no hot sex scenes?

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 18, 2014 04:46 PM (XHK1d)

37 I'll trade honest, hardworking, industrious, intelligent and diligent for interestingly violent and moody.

Nope.

Gimme some cray cray chicks.

Just for a week.

Just a week.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 04:46 PM (yz6yg)

38 Mars? You mean where we planted our flag?

Posted by: Shiela Jackson Lee at April 18, 2014 04:46 PM (32Ze2)

39 >>>Not so much Ace. Subs have long had scrubbers that would take out CO2 and clean up the air.

that's a different thing (which is also in the book).

Scrubbing CO2 out of the air is different from manufacturing O2 in the first place.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:47 PM (/FnUH)

40 In before the obligatory "Yeah, gonna be drinkin' his own piss for for years" comment.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 18, 2014 04:47 PM (SvDMt)

41
Kinda like every day here on Earth, eh?

Pretty much.

::gazes upon the shambles of his misbegotten life::

But my LDR affords me actual sex on occasion, one of those occasions being tomorrow, so I'm out of here and hitting the road. Have a great Easter, Horde!

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 04:47 PM (JtwS4)

42 Yeah.... but the guy left out the part where I helped him...

Which made me sooooo angry....

Posted by: Marvin, the Martian at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (84gbM)

43
Nope.

Gimme some cray cray chicks.

Just for a week.

Just a week.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 04:46 PM (yz6yg)

LOL... it never works like that.

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (x3YFz)

44 Hope he got to chance to do the dirty bird with the chick with three boobehs!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (NpXoL)

45 "Potato soup AGAIN?"

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (cHZB7)

46 And the F-er took a page from your President.... and ATE Klepton!

Posted by: Marvin, the Martian at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (84gbM)

47 it turns out -- I'm assuming the book is accurate about this, as you can tell he did a lot of technical reading -- that low oxygen is not nearly as dangerous as high CO2. You have a lot more wiggle room with low oxygen, whereas high CO2 will kill you pretty fast (poison).

But the oxygenator has to make the O2 in the first place, before you can scrub CO2 out of it.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (/FnUH)

48 LOL... it never works like that.
Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (x3YFz)


I know.

Oh man, do I know.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 04:49 PM (yz6yg)

49 hung myself from the radio mast.

-
Yeah, me too.

Posted by: Zombie David Carradi.e at April 18, 2014 04:49 PM (cuzdH)

50 I know.

Oh man, do I know.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 18, 2014 04:49 PM (yz6yg)

mmmhmm.

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:50 PM (x3YFz)

51 Yeah, I just looked up how those things work. It would do him some good, but he would still need a source of O2.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 04:50 PM (T2V/1)

52 I bet his Playboys are a train wreck by the time he's rescued.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 04:51 PM (5UteM)

53 He's not going to be like I would be in this situation --
fortunately for him, because I just would have eaten the 100 sols of
food in 50 days and then hung myself from the radio mast.

Were 200 sols of the food something you don't like?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 18, 2014 04:51 PM (tf9Ne)

54 "Potato soup AGAIN?"


"Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! I'm sick of you goddamn complaining!"



"'Im sick of you goddamn potatoes!!!"

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 04:51 PM (fsLdt)

55
First it's movie reviews. Now it's book reviews.......

Loquacious Ewok


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 18, 2014 04:52 PM (TIIx5)

56 But the oxygenator has to make the O2 in the first place, before you can scrub CO2 out of it.



Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (/FnUH)


Yeah... because making O2 from CO2 is just plain crazy talk....

Posted by: a Plant at April 18, 2014 04:52 PM (84gbM)

57 Subs have long had scrubbers that would take out CO2 and clean up the air.

That was part of the life-threatening part of the Apollo 13 mission, the fact the CO2 levels were rising so high. But it's a different animal altogether to take nothing but CO2 and get oxygen out of it. I think Mars has something like 4% atmosphere compared to Earth, so there's not much to work with.

Interesting premise if it could work. There 'should' be water at the poles, but there 'should' be water at the moons poles, too. I'd prefer they figure stuff out closer to home.

Posted by: Annoying Science Guy at April 18, 2014 04:52 PM (oGrEy)

58 How does he deal with the solitude?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 04:52 PM (MKpBT)

59
I was browsing through "moon is hell" just now.

Oh, man they're screwed. The expedition was on the FAR side of the moon so, after the rocket blows up, they have to send people, with a radio, to where the earth can be seen just to let them know they're alive and have a chance to live long enough for another rocket to be built.

On the the bright side, they have a fair number of people so there's a lot of knowledge to go around.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 18, 2014 04:53 PM (h53OH)

60 52 I bet his Playboys are a train wreck by the time he's rescued.


Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 04:51 PM (5UteM)


No.... but John was getting pissed off.... guy was chasing me all the time...

Posted by: Dejah Thoris at April 18, 2014 04:53 PM (84gbM)

61 fark this martian in particular.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 18, 2014 04:53 PM (7mQyC)

62 The only good thing about FIFA is everybody knows that everybody is on the take.

Christopher Snowdon ‏@cjsnowdon
Yet more evidence of the mind-boggling corruption at FIFA. http://tgr.ph/1jRqwFu

The 10-year-old daughter of a Fifa executive who helped to select World Cup host nations had more than £2 million put into a savings account set up in her name, the Telegraph can disclose.
Antonia Wigand Teixeira, the daughter of the Brazilian representative on the Fifa executive committee, received the money in 2011. Her father, Ricardo, who stepped down from the committee in 2012, has recently moved to Miami after Brazilian police began an investigation into his activities. The disclosure will raise questions about the finances of some Fifa officials who participated in the decision to award Russia and Qatar the 2018 and 2022 tournaments.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 04:54 PM (ZPrif)

63 I think Mars has something like 4% atmosphere compared to Earth, so there's not much to work with.

But he's got the whole planet to himself!!!!!

Posted by: Some "Progressive" "Scientist" at April 18, 2014 04:54 PM (yz6yg)

64
Eating crap grown potatoes for 4 years in many ways is the story of obama.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 04:54 PM (BrAHD)

65 Here we go Ace; a closed loop O2 generation system that converts CO2 to O2.


But it needs water and power.


http://ip.com/IPCOM/000212154

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 04:55 PM (T2V/1)

66 >>>How does he deal with the solitude?

in a joke that doesn't really work for me, he spends most of his time watching the media library of one his crewmates, which is all crappy 70s tv shows.

But he's mostly busy, because there's a lot of shit to do just to survive on mars.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:55 PM (/FnUH)

67 1450 divided by howmuch food you have which I assume is 3 squares a day for 300 days and that is what you consume per day.( you get a little more than half a square a day) As long as you have water , you will survive. You'll look like a concentration camp survivor but you'd have a chance to make it.

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 04:55 PM (m2CN7)

68 But he's got the whole planet to himself!!!!!



.0000000000001 Percenter!!

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 04:55 PM (fsLdt)

69 Eating crap grown potatoes for 4 years in many ways is the story of obama.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 04:54 PM (BrAHD)


I think we have a thread winner here.

Posted by: Some at April 18, 2014 04:55 PM (yz6yg)

70 #3.
Just saw TODAY, that Robinson Crusoe on Mars is recently added on NETFLIX.
Haven't seen since its release in 1964
(God, that made me feel old!)

Posted by: theforgetler at April 18, 2014 04:56 PM (xSWZi)

71 If he plans his diet according to Michelle Obama's school lunch guide lines he should just about make 1,000 days.

He's fucked.


Posted by: dananjcon at April 18, 2014 04:56 PM (NpXoL)

72 as for solitude:

The book is not what you would call emotionally deep, so don't expect much by way of that sort of thing, pondering, going a little crazy, believing in God one day but cursing him the next, etc.

It's got more of a Lighthearted Lark tone than that.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:56 PM (/FnUH)

73 So, what you're saying, is that it lacks =depth= and =character=.

(Seriously, isn't this the usual dismissal by snooty critics vis a vis pulp fiction? "We can't have characters who reveal themselves through =action=! Spell it out for us with their innermost thoughts! Also, sex."

Posted by: moviegique at April 18, 2014 04:57 PM (7zeA4)

74 OT: Out Obamaing Obama. Obama signs Cruz's law to keep terrorist Iranian ambassador out of the U.S. then moments later says he won't enforce the law he just signed.

From Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 18, 2014 04:57 PM (FpTHT)

75 Anyone able to tell me if the Clinton Global Initiative has actually achieved anything concrete?

Posted by: thunderb at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (Pc0ub)

76 I believe Mars, translated to English, means a whales potato.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (5UteM)

77 Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:55 PM (/FnUH)

***

I think the mechanical issues of air, water, food, shelter are really secondary in a story like this. All of my "rugged individualist" bluster aside, the hardest part of surviving that scenario would be the sheer isolation. My wife and I use the tag line, "Solitude is good, but it's best when you can share it with someone."

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (MKpBT)

78 But he's mostly busy, because there's a lot of shit to do just to survive on mars.
Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:55 PM (/FnUH)

Real survival means burning the least amount of calories necessary. If you burn more calories searching or working for food than the calories youobtain, you defeat the purpose.

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (m2CN7)

79 He should just dial 911.

Posted by: Piers Morgan at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (cHZB7)

80 How does he deal with the solitude?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 04:52 PM (MKpBT)

Ace? or the Martian?

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (x3YFz)

81 >>68 But he's got the whole planet to himself!!!!!

.0000000000001 Percenter!!

Strictly speaking, he's a 100%er.

Posted by: moviegique at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (7zeA4)

82 Crusoe

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (R+h7Q)

83 74 OT: Out Obamaing Obama. Obama signs Cruz's law to keep terrorist Iranian ambassador out of the U.S. then moments later says he won't enforce the law he just signed.

From Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 18, 2014 04:57 PM (FpTHT)


Which is an abrogation of his oath of office... and in fact could constitute Fraud... as he signed something into law he would not enforce..

Which would be a High Crime or Misdemeanor...

Posted by: Dejah Thoris at April 18, 2014 04:59 PM (84gbM)

84 >>>All of my "rugged individualist" bluster aside, the hardest part of surviving that scenario would be the sheer isolation.

actually now that you mention it, that is addressed in part of the book, but I'll spare you the details.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:59 PM (/FnUH)

85 Got Hillary elected to the Senate, appointed to Sec. of State, and now the frontrunner for the Dem nomination and in solid position to be the next Prez.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 04:59 PM (ZPrif)

86 74 OT: Out Obamaing Obama. Obama signs Cruz's law to keep terrorist Iranian ambassador out of the U.S. then moments later says he won't enforce the law he just signed.



I dont even know what to say anymore. This is CrazyWorld.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 04:59 PM (oMKp3)

87
related maybe or not:

Scientists say they have identified a protein that causes zombielike behavior in plants.Certain
crops are vulnerable to parasites that take control of their hosts’
behavior, forcing them to act in the intruder’s interest. (The same is
true in some animal species: Spiders in Costa Rica infected by a
parasitic wasp, for example,




Stolen from insty

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 05:00 PM (BrAHD)

88 Snowden & Putin & Greenwald? Yuck. Not at the HQ.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 18, 2014 05:00 PM (Z64B5)

89 And since it's space related I'll repeat from the previous thread

>>>114 I also didn't know about speculations about the moon's role in making earth a life-friendly world.

(I looked that up on my own, but didn't ask questions, and in fact argued against the point when it was first raised by, I think, maddog.)

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (/FnUH)

Man I got screwed out of my making ace feel stupid hat tip.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 18, 2014 05:00 PM (z/Ubi)

90 In all seriousness, to survive that situation you would have to sleep 18 to 20 hours a day, and masturbate only 2 to 3 times a day.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 05:01 PM (5UteM)

91 Just bought it for kindle, and even remembered to use ace's amazon link thingy. I buy damn near everything from amazon, and I almost never remember to use it.

I blame everyone but me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 18, 2014 05:01 PM (gJ81s)

92 82 Crusoe
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at April 18, 2014 04:58 PM (R+h7Q)
===================

I thought Ace was talking about an Italian cover of Crusoe, sung in a beautiful operatic tenor.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 05:01 PM (F58x4)

93 SO the Potatoes are the McGuffin?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 18, 2014 05:03 PM (WDySP)

94 Posted by: Costanza Defense


Why don't you go buzz-kill a different thread.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 05:03 PM (5UteM)

95 74 OT: Out Obamaing Obama. Obama signs Cruz's law to keep terrorist Iranian ambassador out of the U.S. then moments later says he won't enforce the law he just signed.

From Weasel Zippers.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 18, 2014 04:57 PM (FpTHT)
=====================


Obama is the American Denis Pakhomov.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 05:04 PM (F58x4)

96 Man I got screwed out of my making ace feel stupid hat tip.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 18, 2014 05:00 PM (z/Ubi)

Aw man.

Posted by: m at April 18, 2014 05:05 PM (2AqeI)

97 >>>Crusoe
Posted by: Miley's Tongue

i've been getting that wrong for 30 years

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:05 PM (/FnUH)

98 I read this a while ago too, I believe a friend recommended it.

Very fun read. It's not a fully polished book, and could probably have stood to have a bit more proofreading, but still very much worth it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 05:05 PM (SY2Kh)

99 >>Man I got screwed out of my making ace feel stupid hat tip.

that was deliberate, smart-guy

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:06 PM (/FnUH)

100 By the way, I highly recommend the Podcast. Ace is awesome on Hairy Reid, WaPo and the Kochs, among all the other wonderful stuff.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 05:06 PM (F58x4)

101 >>>In all seriousness, to survive that situation you would have to sleep 18 to 20 hours a day, and masturbate only 2 to 3 times a day.

paradise

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:06 PM (/FnUH)

102 Ace,

Probably from the "Gilligan's Island" theme:

o/~Like Robinson Ca-ROO-so
It's primitive as can be~\o

Posted by: moviegique at April 18, 2014 05:06 PM (7zeA4)

103 yup, that damn theme song

and "Crusoe" is so much cooler

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:07 PM (/FnUH)

104 In all seriousness, to survive that situation you would have to sleep 18 to 20 hours a day, and masturbate only 2 to 3 times a day.

paradise

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:06 PM (/FnUH)

We've been over it 6 times on the white board and fail to find a flaw in this plan.

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 05:07 PM (x3YFz)

105 Why don't you go buzz-kill a different thread.


okay.. it's not just me then.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 05:10 PM (fsLdt)

106 New poot. Please proceed accordingly.

Posted by: Jupiter at April 18, 2014 05:11 PM (ukNFU)

107 $9.99 for the Kindle edition
http://is.gd/2dvLHZ


Holy crap. It was only $0.99 when I read it.

Good for him. I hope he follows up with another one.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 05:11 PM (SY2Kh)

108 >>>We've been over it 6 times on the white board and fail to find a flaw in this plan.

if only

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:16 PM (/FnUH)

109 "OT: Out Obamaing Obama. Obama signs Cruz's law to keep terrorist Iranian
ambassador out of the U.S. then moments later says he won't enforce the
law he just signed."

Don't worry. You can be sure that Congress will react vehemently and forcefully against a rogue executive branch which is ignoring the legislatively expressed will of a Constitutionally co-equal branch of government.

Yep. They'll do that any minute now.

::: crickets :::

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 05:17 PM (noWW6)

110 This isn't the book where they find the sexy bee people is it?*



* That may have been a dream.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 05:17 PM (5UteM)

111 I liked it.

There are also a few patches of Very Convenient Plotting Syndrome.

I never noticed stuff like this til I started reading AoSHQ. It's one of a few things I'm not really sure I wouldn't have rather stayed with ignorance is bliss.

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 05:17 PM (DL2i+)

112 when i say the oxygenator is a fantasy device, I don't mean it's impossible. I mean it's fantasy as of right this moment.

also, in the way it's depicted. Oxygen is just NEVER a concern him; that's the one thing he has plenty of. That's not a problem, because it's fine if he has ONE of his four necessities.

It's just that he has a lot of oxygen. A lot. Literally, he has oxygen to burn, which is important, because it burns it with H2 to make water for his potatoes.

It's just a little fantasy in the sense that he has not only enough oxygen for his mission, but also for various unplanned activities.

NASA really set these guys up with a lot of excess oxygen production.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:18 PM (/FnUH)

113 NASA really set these guys up with a lot of excess oxygen production.





Posted by: ace


Well he would be able to use the spare oxygen unused by his deserting crew-mates.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 05:20 PM (5UteM)

114 he's got more than that.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:22 PM (/FnUH)

115 Favorite line in the book- "Look, boobs! (.)(.)"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 05:23 PM (SY2Kh)

116 The Armstrong Limit is weird.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 05:28 PM (5UteM)

117 Cismale gendernormative fascism, top to bottom. I suppose that all the NASA engineers working to save him celebrated their binary gender choices, too.

Posted by: cryptical at April 18, 2014 05:28 PM (9Equ9)

118 MacGyver in Outer Space.

I liked it.

E-book price went up because when a real publisher picked up the book, they got to set the e-book prices. Author's got nothing to say in it.

Posted by: TB at April 18, 2014 05:29 PM (8u/5i)

119 I'm not saying the oxygenator is an objectionable bit of science speculation.

It's just two things: First, he gets into the details of this non-existing technology a little too much, and my eyes glaze over, because, while I want to hear about real science (and he does have a fair amount of real science in the book), I could care less about the specs of a non-existing made-up thng.

Second, mostly NASA has sent a lean payload to Mars. There's extra food, but not much extra; just the overage you'd send in case they have to stay a couple of extra weeks.

And so forth.

It's just that with oxygen, he's so well-stocked you sort of wonder why NASA isn't lean on this particular need.

But this could just be explained by technology, of course. It could be that once you figure out how to crack CO2 into O2 without using too much energy (or if you have so much energy you don't care about energy use), well, you really would have as much O2 as you'd need.

It's not really a big deal at all, it's just that everything else is subject to scarcity, including CO2 scrubbers and such.

I shouldn't have brought it up. When I said "fantasy device" i didn't really mean it in a derogatory way, I just meant that most of the other tech in the book is available right now, and this one isn't.



Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:30 PM (/FnUH)

120 NASA really set these guys up with a lot of excess oxygen production.

It's supposed to be a long term research base for 6? people and the O2 and rocket fuel (hydrazine) for the return trip are manufactured there on Mars.

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 05:34 PM (DL2i+)

121 He has plenty of Solar panels though they're Mars weak.

I forget if they also had RTG (acronym you wanted earlier)

http://tinyurl.com/7tcgq

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 05:37 PM (DL2i+)

122 Note to self : Ace loves oxygen; Christmas present?

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 05:37 PM (5UteM)

123 I agree with Ace on this book. At least as far as the liking it; I didn't read it with an eye towards reviewing it, so I wasn't looking for those critiquey kinds of things (POV, convenient plotting, etc) while I was reading it. One thing that did occur to me as I was reading it was how great it would be as a movie or TV mini series. Very entertaining and I think very adaptable.

I read this a couple or few months ago, based on something someone said on the Sunday book thread. I don't know if it was OregonMuse's post itself or someone in the comments, but I know it was the thread. So, thanks to the OregonMuse (and Ace) for the book thread!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2014 05:43 PM (IN7k+)

124 >>>I forget if they also had RTG (acronym you wanted earlier)

he definitely had the RTG, because this book is where I know the RTG from.

Although -- and this happens so often -- the moment I learned of the RTG from this book, I immediately saw it referenced like three times in other places.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 05:52 PM (/FnUH)

125 I grok the Martian sole survivor meme.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 18, 2014 05:57 PM (5xmd7)

126 Sounds like an amalgam of David Palmer's Emergence and the Gary Sinise/Don Cheadle/Andy Dufresne film Mission to Mars.

Posted by: Captain Ned at April 18, 2014 06:07 PM (i+Fm3)

127 I read and listened to the audio book, yeah it's great fun if you like hard SciFi (no idea how realistic the science was but it seemed convincing). Gotten a lot of positive mentions on the book thread. Enjoyed the sand storm and the final scene, though the business with the volcano seemed unrealistic.

Posted by: waelse1 at April 18, 2014 06:21 PM (j3mix)

128 A device to take in CO2 and produce O? Already developed. I hold the patent on it. The super secret name of this technical device is 'plant' or 'tree'.

Posted by: The Big Guy Upstairs at April 18, 2014 06:21 PM (oGrEy)

129 The Martian is indeed enjoyable, but the author does make a horrendous hash of oxygen toxicity early on that makes his subsequent 'hard science' a little suspect. But ignore that and it moves well.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at April 18, 2014 06:28 PM (UYiBe)

130 >>> Enjoyed the sand storm and the final scene, though the business with the volcano seemed unrealistic.

I thought the volcano sequence was the most metaphorically rich part of the novel.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 06:37 PM (/FnUH)

131 >>>The Martian is indeed enjoyable, but the author does make a horrendous hash of oxygen toxicity early on

ah I missed that.. what did he get wrong?

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 06:38 PM (/FnUH)

132 SO the Potatoes are the McGuffin?
Man meets potato. Man eats potato. Man shits out potato. Man grows potato. Man re-meets potato. That's the plot of every story in history.

Posted by: neanderthal babe at April 18, 2014 06:40 PM (hn5v5)

133 It's just that with oxygen, he's so well-stocked you sort of wonder why NASA isn't lean on this particular need.
Duh! It's lightweight! Grab a fistful. It weighs nothing.

Posted by: kelly bundy at April 18, 2014 06:45 PM (hn5v5)

134 The thread's dead.
I guess the NASA relief mission didn't make it in time.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 06:50 PM (hn5v5)

135 Great audiobook 'read'. Lots of interesting turns and twists, personality developments and, best of all, real science-based science fiction.

Posted by: Seipherd at April 18, 2014 08:14 PM (1etLu)

136 I read it like more than a year ago and it was fun but I'm still pissed about the crappy ending.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 18, 2014 08:15 PM (w9Eda)

137 I read it and enjoyed it, despite the flaws you've pointed out. It's totally an engineer's fantasy--the main character's unflappable, nerd-like temper is a bit too good to be true--but the science and tech behind it are truly impressive. Anyone thinking of writing a novel about Mars colonization can basically use it as a handbook. I wasn't sorry I read it at all, even though there's little character development and the ending is a bit predictable. But so what? I've read a great many far more lauded "literary novels" that weren't a fraction as entertaining and involving. Three stars--and coming from me, that's praise.

Posted by: Kierkegaard at April 18, 2014 08:54 PM (Puqo9)

138 Gotta love a book that starts out with "I'm pretty much fucked." as its first line.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 01:07 AM (yh0zB)

139 I personally thought the plentiful oxygen was reasonable. The base has lots of solar cells, and was designed to make enough oxygen for six adults, plus emergency reserve.

I did a Google search for "split CO2 into oxygen and carbon" and found some links. One pointed out that while it is a hard problem, plants can do it. A suitable catalyst would help a lot, and research is being done.

Here's the one most interesting of the links I found:

http://bit.ly/1liqjz1

Posted by: mr_jack at April 19, 2014 01:57 AM (M59SC)

College Professor Suspended and Investigated After Being Reported For Using His Daughter to Make Real and Credible Threats to Kill People

Yup.

Oh, here was the real and credible threat he posted on Google+:

khaleesithreat.png
Intellectual Winter is Coming

Scary, huh? Yeah, that T-shirt is a quote from Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones.

It's a nerd culture t-shirt, in other words. The "fire" she's threatening people with? Yeah, comes from fire-breathing dragons.

But the professor has literally been suspended and is being investigated for this scary death threat.

But one contact — a dean — who was notified automatically via Google that the picture had been posted apparently took it as a threat. In an e-mail, Jim Miller, the college’s executive director for human resources, told Schmidt to meet with him and two other administrators immediately in light of the “threatening e-mail.” …

Schmidt said he met with the administrators, including a security official, in one of their offices and was questioned repeatedly about the picture’s meaning and the popularity of “Game of Thrones.”

Schmidt said Miller asked him to use Google to verify the phrase, which he did, showing approximately 4 million hits. The professor said he asked why the photo had set off such a reaction, and that the security official said that “fire” could be a kind of proxy for “AK-47s.”

Well, in fairness, the type of dragon alluded to is an "Assault Dragon," with extended stomach-magazines for additional literal fire-power.

Plus, "that part that goes down" (i.e., a tail).

It gets worse:

Schmidt believes the school is acting not to protect students from potential threats, but to retaliate against him. A week before being placed on leave, Schmidt filed a grievance against the school because he was passed up for a sabbatical.

Here's how Bergen Community College covers itself in further glory: by doubling down.

[Bergen Community College President Kay] Walter said she did not believe that the college had acted unfairly, especially considering that there were three school shootings nationwide in January, prior to Schmidt’s post.

Well that's not the sort of sub-moronic utterance I associate with community colleges at all.

The professor is suspended, without pay, until he can pass a psych exam showing he is not a threat to the school.

So that's it, then: It's Idiocracy. We are a stupid, stupid people, and like most deeply stupid people, we are increasingly proud of our stupidity.

The greatest offense you can inflict on a stupid, ignorant person is to tell him something he doesn't know, and there's no possible way to avoid this offense, because the list of things he does not know is vast.

And he'll hate you for telling him something he didn't know. And he will mock you for having known this thing, and, if he can get away with it, he will inflict punishment on you. Corporeal punishment, if he's bigger than you, and if he's not bigger than you, which will usually be the case, he will resort to the more cowardly method of punishment favored by the weakling, to wit, social/political/bureaucratic punishment.

All for having made a f***ing moron felt briefly ashamed about not knowing something.

In no case will the proudly ignorant ever just laugh off their moment of revealed ignorance and apologize for the misunderstanding, because the thick-headed do not know the things it's okay not to know. That is, it's okay to not know character quotes from Game of Thrones; it's just a nerd-cult tv show and book series. Who cares if you don't know the quote, or never heard of Khaleesi, Mother of Dragons?

But the stupid know so little they cannot differentiate between those things they should be ashamed of being ignorant of and those that they shouldn't, so, always fighting from the position of a defensive flinch, they feel ashamed about being ignorant of everything, which would be fine, but being stupid, and therefore, in the center of themselves, aggressive and hostile, they lash out at their phantasmal "oppressors" by any means they can.

In related news, civilization itself was a major misstep and that error probably should be corrected as soon as possible.


Posted by: Ace at 03:33 PM



Comments

1 Maybe the anti-flouridation people were on to something. It makes some people goddamn idiots.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2014 03:35 PM (659DL)

2 Good Lord! I want to move to Trayvon 186f.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 03:36 PM (32Ze2)

3

And he'll hate you for telling him something he didn't know. And he
will mock you for having known this thing, and, if he can get away with
it, he will inflict punishment on you. Corporeal punishment, if he's
bigger than you, and if he's not bigger than you, which will usually be
the case, he will resort to the more cowardly method of punishment
favored by the weakling, to wit, social/political/bureaucratic
punishment.

All for having made a f***ing moron felt briefly ashamed about not knowing something.


2+2 = 4 bitchez.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:36 PM (d0Dmj)

4 Is Charlie Gibson running that school?

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 18, 2014 03:37 PM (sjdRT)

5 We have been fundamentally transformed.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 03:37 PM (qvsl/)

6 But the stupid know so little they cannot differentiate between those
things they should be ashamed of being ignorant of and those that they
shouldn't, so, always fighting from the position of a defensive flinch,
they feel ashamed about being ignorant of everything, which would be
fine, but being stupid, and therefore, in the center of themselves, aggressive and hostile, they lash out at their phantasmal "oppressors" by any means they can.



IOW, the left.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:37 PM (d0Dmj)

7 Man, scary lookin' kid. Looks like P-lousey in 2nd grade.

Posted by: Shorty Johnson at April 18, 2014 03:37 PM (xWW96)

8 I can read your mind...

Posted by: Alan Parsons Pissed of Project at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (uOV6o)

9 It is always funny when the collective turns on itself though..... good times.... good times.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (32Ze2)

10 The scariest thing about that picture is it looks like there's a second person in the shirt .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (HDwDg)

11 I can understand this. College administrators are some of the most vindictive and stupid people on earth.


Also, after they are sued if they lose, the only people "punished" will be the taxpayers. IOW, they have nothing to lose.


And yes, if he filed a grievance and he has any evidence that this was in retaliation for that, he has a case.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (T2V/1)

12 This is red on red conflict


what ze Germans ( when not invading Poland ) call Der Schaden.....


or is it Die? Das?

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( and his hair was perfect ) at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (JyjXt)

13 well, there you have it then, everyone fall back and move to a red state. we will have a conference call to regroup in the afternoon.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (rDidD)

14 Does the assault dragon have the pistol grips and the thing that goes up? Because those are scary.

Posted by: huerfano at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (bAGA/)

15 Also, after they are sued if they lose, the only people "punished" will be the taxpayers. IOW, they have nothing to lose.

This this this.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 03:39 PM (thLL8)

16 Jeez, just like that professor that posted the Captain Mal quote on his office door.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 03:39 PM (IdOTf)

17 He ought to be investigated for that dirty ass kitchen floor.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 18, 2014 03:39 PM (vztUc)

18 Does the assault dragon have the pistol grips and the thing that goes up? Because those are scary.



He has a bayonet lug on his chinney chin chin.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:39 PM (d0Dmj)

19 bet you a buck this professor still votes D until the day he dies (and probably even after that).

Posted by: mc at April 18, 2014 03:39 PM (lrfmC)

20 In related news, civilization itself was a major misstep and that error probably should be corrected as soon as possible.



Ace is a SMODDITE!!

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 03:39 PM (8w6pW)

21 Educators are stupid.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (GQ8sn)

22 If it had been a Teaparty Tee shirt he would already be in the camps.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (xWW96)

23 Why, I'm shocked this happened in one of the 57 states of this wonderful land

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (78TbK)

24 I'm waiting for my concealed dragon permit to arrive via post.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (AaZet)

25 13
well, there you have it then, everyone fall back and move to a red
state. we will have a conference call to regroup in the afternoon.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (rDidD)


Colleges in the "red" States are no better. The entire education system has been taken over by incompetent liberals and communists.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (T2V/1)

26 For many years I thought dragon milk came from short-legged cows.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (MKpBT)

27 This as like the Krugman story from yesterday. Our betters are moron morons.

Posted by: Madamex at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (vaWdD)

28 Ace is a SMODDITE!!
___
Aren't we all? BTW...type-o man.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (78TbK)

29 so he can write a new "how to get your sabbatical in one easy email"

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (rDidD)

30 I'm waiting for my concealed dragon permit to arrive via post.



#twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:41 PM (d0Dmj)

31 Plus -- Professor Deaththreat needs to mop the freakin floor. yuk

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 03:41 PM (8w6pW)

32 one local campus of a community college was run by a ferociously ugly woman for two decades ( until she retired ). She looked like a basketball with stubby arms and legs.


and some hair, sort of, sort of on top of a potato-head ( on top of the basketball )


A hard-core lib, she was. Quelle surprise. No affection for men. Quelle....

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( and his hair was perfect ) at April 18, 2014 03:41 PM (JyjXt)

33 So Piers Morgan is a Community College HR manager. Who knew?

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 18, 2014 03:41 PM (oDCMR)

34 The rule is generalizable (we nuts object, therefore you're crazy), and the danger is well-documented. There were psychiatric prisons in the USSR for those who did not want to live in the Glorious People's Worker's Paradise.

Posted by: Wannaownagunosis-sufferer at April 18, 2014 03:41 PM (1/4XQ)

35 Who cares if you don't know the quote, or never heard of Khaleesi, Mother of Dragons?

Such a person isn't going to fit in around my house, that's for sure.

Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 03:41 PM (i5GO4)

36 Dam....


Never should have put that Obelisk down there...

Posted by: 2021... A Space Idiocyncracy at April 18, 2014 03:41 PM (84gbM)

37 Colleges in the "red" States are no better. The entire education system has been taken over by incompetent liberals and communists.
Posted by: Vic at April

as part of our fallback plan I was thinking we would start our own college.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:41 PM (rDidD)

38 Fire = AK-47s?

Isn't that just...specific?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 03:42 PM (IdOTf)

39 I still remember when I saw my first dragon. I think his name was something like Commodo. Weird name huh?

And they told me he could not breathe fire which is odder...

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 18, 2014 03:42 PM (78TbK)

40
By the Power of Grayskull .......

Posted by: fixerupper at April 18, 2014 03:42 PM (IrLKP)

41 Can we just proactively remand all school administrators to the custody of the nearest convenient mental health treatment facility, pending extensive tests to prove that each is in fact sane and not retarded? For the children? The time to act is now.

Posted by: Stu-22 at April 18, 2014 03:42 PM (AiYlm)

42 I agree. Where is the Perfessers wife? She is a horrible housekeeper.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 03:42 PM (32Ze2)

43 In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

HHGTTG

Posted by: Captain Ned at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (i+Fm3)

44 Here's the $64,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 question (adjusted into 2030 US dollars)?

What happens to all of these stupid people when the US dollar becomes worthless and they have to fend for themselves.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (AC0lD)

45 I still remember when I saw my first dragon.




Me too. Just before my 9th shot of tequila.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (d0Dmj)

46 well why do you think the kid is sliding around on the floor? he is mopping.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (rDidD)

47 42I agree. Where is the Perfessers wife? She is a horrible housekeeper.Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 03:42 PM (32Ze2) Maybe he's like me; no wife. My kitchen floor isn't much, if any better.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (xWW96)

48 >> the security official said that “fire” could be a kind of proxy for “AK-47s.”

I thought that line was something Ace made up...ya know, adding an over the top statement to the end of a quote.


It's not.

Oh my.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (SUKHu)

49 Plus -- Professor Deaththreat needs to mop the freakin floor. yuk

He should call in Pelosi, she's pretty good down on her knees washing dirty filthy things.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (thLL8)

50 What happens to all of these stupid people when the US dollar becomes worthless and they have to fend for themselves.
___
We are always looking to add people with just that real world experience to the skull pile.

Posted by: Some Warlord at April 18, 2014 03:44 PM (78TbK)

51 What happens to all of these stupid people when the US dollar becomes worthless and they have to fend for themselves.



They die?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:44 PM (d0Dmj)

52 I saw the picture before I read the headline, I was sure it was a harry reid story.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:44 PM (rDidD)

53 So angry yutes pretending to present a petition attack the UN base in Bor South Sudan. At least 58 dead, mostly of the Neur tribe. And UN Sec. Gen Ban-kai Moon calls it a war crime the attack on the UN 'peacekeepers'.
http://tinyurl.com/l95d6rh

Dear Sec. General, the people of Srebenica would like a few words with you.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 03:44 PM (JgpFm)

54 In related news, civilization itself was a major misstep and that error probably should be corrected as soon as possible.

Considering that 99% of the species that ever inhabited this planet are now extinct, I don't think you'll have to wait long.

On a long enough timeline our so-called civilization is going to be but a tiny microscopic dot.

* drags 'REPENT THE END IS NEAR' sign out of closet *

Posted by: Annoying Science Guy at April 18, 2014 03:44 PM (oGrEy)

55 I am the maker of rules..

Posted by: Alan Parsons Pissed of Project at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (uOV6o)

56 I am cornering the sharp rock market. Thinking ahead.

Posted by: Beagle at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (sOtz/)

57 I know these Kollidge Perfesser types. They populate my family. They have letters, but are too stooped to come in from the rain. They won't last long come the burning times.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (32Ze2)

58 What happens to all of these stupid people when the US dollar becomes worthless and they have to fend for themselves.


Avoid the general areas around Costcos and Wal-Marts.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (GQ8sn)

59 Now, if she were doing that crab-walk down a flight of stairs, I might understand the hysteria.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (DmNpO)

60 What happens to all of these stupid people when the US dollar becomes worthless and they have to fend for themselves.

They get government stipends and are told to go out and kill you if they want more.

Nothing to get upset about though.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (thLL8)

61 OT: As I predicted, despite the "study" Obama has delayed an answer on Keystone "indefinitely". Some Democrats and unions are mad. Story at Fox.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (T2V/1)

62 They die?


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:44 PM (d0Dmj)

But how quietly?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (AC0lD)

63 Now, if she were doing that crab-walk down a flight of stairs, I might understand the hysteria.




Up the stairs. Scarier.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (d0Dmj)

64 Is this real abject stupidity, or just a fear of a lawsuit? By which I mean, is it possible now that an administrator must necessarily act on everything because in the rare even when something does happen, their career is ruined for "not missing obvious signals that something was wrong."

My guess is that this is just an asshole administrator who's using the latter for cover. I know that we're never supposed to attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, but I always assume different when dealing with office politics.

Posted by: taylork at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (9bPUR)

65 Are you the eye in the sky?
Don't answer me,
Don't break the silence,
Don't let me win.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (JgpFm)

66 ignorance is bliss, and we are surrounded by happy people.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (q+fqH)

67 Timely. My wife is a teacher. Today, at her elementary school, the place was put on lock-down and six police officers in one of their fancy SWAT SUV's were called out for an unruly 4th grader. Fourth. Grader.

Fuck it. I give up. Buying that sailboat and going cruising somewhere saner. Like Central America or something.

Posted by: Fred at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (Lo5Rt)

68 Of course, after someone points out to the good Administrator that GoT has mocked both Bush and America, the perfesser will be offered lifetime tenure with additional benefits...

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 18, 2014 03:47 PM (gXRIG)

69 "Does the assault dragon have the pistol grips and the thing that goes up?"

Assault dragons have "the shoulder thing that goes up". And down! And up and down! And they have one on EACH shoulder.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 03:47 PM (noWW6)

70 What happens to all of these stupid people when the US dollar becomes worthless and they have to fend for themselves.


----

Brackens writings get moved to the "non-fiction section"

Posted by: fixerupper at April 18, 2014 03:47 PM (IrLKP)

71 The stupid are stupid because they refuse to admit they are ignorant. Smart people don't pop out of the womb as all-knowing geniuses. They ask questions, want to know answers. They are curious and are willing to admit they do not know something as long as they can rectify their not knowing. The stupid are also the vain. They refuse to admit weakness, such as ignorance on a given subject. They never ask questions, they never learn, and so they remain ignorant. Stupidity is just a consequence of a peculiar arrogance.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 18, 2014 03:47 PM (qJPSp)

72 >>>the security official said that “fire” could be a kind of proxy for “AK-47s.”

I thought that line was something Ace made up...ya know, adding an over the top statement to the end of a quote.


...

yup, unfortunately all too real.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 03:47 PM (/FnUH)

73
School shootings. IOW, no dragons dropped any cows on any people's heads.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 03:47 PM (8c12T)

74 These stories are always at the pinnacle institutions of higher education such as Bergen Community College. And is he a professor or an "adjunct professor"?

Posted by: tu3031 at April 18, 2014 03:47 PM (1Hxgp)

75 Anna! I didn't know you could sing.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 18, 2014 03:47 PM (sjdRT)

76 Assault dragons have "the shoulder thing that goes up". And down! And up and down! And they have one on EACH shoulder.



Nice!


*applauds*

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:48 PM (GQ8sn)

77 Now, if she were doing that crab-walk down a flight of stairs, I might understand the hysteria.




Up the stairs. Scarier.


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (d0Dmj)
___________________
On the ceiling.... Heart stopping.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 03:48 PM (32Ze2)

78 My wife is a teacher. Today, at her elementary school, the place was
put on lock-down and six police officers in one of their fancy SWAT
SUV's were called out for an unruly 4th grader. Fourth. Grader.



Chewed his peanut butter and jelly sandwich into the shape of an AK-47?

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (GQ8sn)

79 70-Terminus is what happens. These are the folks who would cannibalize their fellow man.

Posted by: ejo at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (GXvSO)

80
This just shows how ingrained this stupid shit has become.

Pavlovian, the response is immediate. Your re-education is complete.

Posted by: The Jackholeof Alan Parsons pissed off project at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (uOV6o)

81 I'm Batman!

Posted by: Would you post bail for naturalfake he's been charged as a vilgilante? at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (0cMkb)

82 "college dean" is code for 'retarded failure who can't teach or do anything else'

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( and his hair was perfect ) at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (JyjXt)

83 Oh....and find the kitteh in the picture!



Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (GQ8sn)

84 Today, at her elementary school, the place was put on lock-down and six
police officers in one of their fancy SWAT SUV's were called out for an
unruly 4th grader. Fourth. Grader.>>

Was it Superman's kid? Because if so the SWAT team can't do shit.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (tf9Ne)

85 Is the adminstration of schools, elementary to college, populated with nothing but complete idiots now? FFS!

Posted by: Lea at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (lIU4e)

86 Leftards only like the image of AK-47's when they appear on old soviet wall posters.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (xWW96)

87 Terminus is what happens. These are the folks who would cannibalize their fellow man.




They can look at the flowers then.......

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (d0Dmj)

88 So, I know I typed ace dot mu dot nu, how did I end up reading The Onion?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (JtwS4)

89 If the dragon were cute and pink rather than scary and swarthy there wouldn't have been any problem. See zombie's post on how all progressive issues are really just a reflection of their racism.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (W7ffl)

90 Crap, I guess I'd better go take down the photo of my granddaughter in that Hello Kitty T-shirt. brb

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (MKpBT)

91 The Left is going out of its fricking mind. Shut up! You're suspended! You're being investigated! Move along! You're greedy! You're making too much money! You're too stupid to decide how to live your own life! You can't buy a Big Gulp! You can't smoke an e-cig here, there, or anywhere! Comply! Submit! Surrender!

Posted by: mrp at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (JBggj)

92 He should post another photo of his kid wearing a Terminator t-shirt withArnold holding a pair of assault rifles with the wording underneath -

I'LL BE BACK

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (m2CN7)

93 seeing as it is a community college you would think they would associate "fire" with some sort of venereal disease.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (rDidD)

94
I tell my friends that we are in the golden age of stupidity and they seem to be in agreement.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (mETGQ)

95 This is so stupid.

Well, I'll leave you all - I gotta go water the vegetable garden, but I have to run to the market first because I'm all out of Brawndo.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (pgQxn)

96 In related news, civilization itself was a major misstep and that error probably should be corrected as soon as possible.
------

You bastards need to check your "homo sapiens privilege" for sure. Get back to living in your own filth like we do.

Posted by: Non- human primates everywhere at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (DaU8I)

97 64 My guess is that this is just an asshole
administrator who's using the latter for cover. I know that we're never
supposed to attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by
stupidity, but I always assume different when dealing with office
politics.

Posted by: taylork at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (9bPUR)

My guess is the administrator was brought this thing by some short-haired fat scrunt who played softball. He looked at it and had no idea what it was so he took her word for it.

By the time he found out what it was it was too late. Everyone knows a stupid liberal will never admit to being wrong or back down on a stupid decision,

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (T2V/1)

98 adjunct professors aren't considered for tenure; they're serfs

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( and his hair was perfect ) at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (JyjXt)

99 First they came for the GoT nerds, and I said "crap" as I was one of the first arrested.

Posted by: Beagle at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (sOtz/)

100 Chewed his peanut butter and jelly sandwich into the shape of an AK-47?



Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (GQ8sn)

Peanut butter? Let's not go assuming the kid was going to school with weapons of mass destruction.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (AC0lD)

101 Here's the $64,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 question (adjusted into 2030 US dollars)?

Talking about inflation, I had some fun with the check-out girl at the local gas and go this morning. I asked for a pack of cigarettes. She got them. I held a quarter up in my hand, and said, "This is what I used to pay for a pack of cigarettes".

I then handed her 26 more quarters. Probably about a pound of quarters. She was amused and said, "Wow, it really hits you when you put it like that."

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (oGrEy)

102 Intellectual Winter is Coming


That made me laugh.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 03:51 PM (5UteM)

103
what ze Germans ( when not invading Poland ) call Der Schaden.....


or is it Die? Das?


Der Schaden. Damage is masculine. Die Schadenfreude, if that's what your going for. Joy is feminine.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 03:51 PM (JtwS4)

104 I just found out I was banned at Crooks and Liars (you will never find a more wretched hive of stupidity and ignorance) for some comment I made a while ago. (taken there by some link cause I don't make a habit of hanging out there).

Good thing they didn't call the cops on me, huh?

(I have no idea what I said as they have deleted the comment but I would guess enough people complained about it that they banned me. I wish I knew what it was so I could repeat it somewhere else )

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 03:51 PM (JS0vr)

105

I used to say we would be better off if the CIA, FBI, and State Department were all razed, and we started with entirely new organizations to replace them.

I now believe it would be a net gain if every college administrator were fired. Whether we replaced them or not.

Posted by: NCC at April 18, 2014 03:51 PM (svwAc)

106 >>>The stupid are stupid because they refuse to admit they are ignorant. Smart people don't pop out of the womb as all-knowing geniuses. They ask questions, want to know answers. They are curious and are willing to admit they do not know something as long as they can rectify their not knowing. The stupid are also the vain. They refuse to admit weakness, such as ignorance on a given subject. They never ask questions, they never learn, and so they remain ignorant. Stupidity is just a consequence of a peculiar arrogance.


...

true, but it helps if you're borderline smart to start with.

People feel dumb asking questions. Personally, I ask a lot of questions, because I know most of the things I'm asking about are not the things I'm Expected to Already Know. So I don't feel dumb about it.

Most of the time.

Some things, yeah, I'm expected to know but didn't (such as the actual source of the "put away childish things" line -- yeah, that was embarrassing).

But you're generally right, to not ask questions about things you don't know is an ego-move, a protective move.

I have to admit that in the Earth Like Planet thread there was one thing I didn't know (like whether Mars' lack of oxygen is based on its mass, or if it's based on it not having a magnetosphere due to its iron core no longer being molten or revolving or whatever). I could have/should have asked a question there, but I felt dumb about it, so I pretended I didn't see the comment, which I actually did.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 03:51 PM (/FnUH)

107 Peanut butter? Let's not go assuming the kid was going to school with weapons of mass destruction.


Oh right, I completely forgot about that!


Peanut butter is now a biological weapon.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (GQ8sn)

108 Note to self: Use picture of my granddaughter wearing a T-shirt to threaten to wreak violence on those who persecute me. Got it.

Posted by: Furious George at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (yFb77)

109 Poll: 37% of Americans Now Fear The Federal Government…

WZ

Gee, I wonder why?

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (thLL8)

110
> civilization itself was a major misstep and that error probably should be corrected as soon as possible.

Fermi Paradox... solved!

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (h53OH)

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (AC0lD)

112 This guy is probably a leftist loon asshole would have no problem suspending a student if he wore a shirt with a picture of a gun on it. So fuck him.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (0LHZx)

113 Heh.
I thought that was someone's gnarly, socked foot.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (vztUc)

114 I also didn't know about speculations about the moon's role in making earth a life-friendly world.

(I looked that up on my own, but didn't ask questions, and in fact argued against the point when it was first raised by, I think, maddog.)

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (/FnUH)

115 78 Chewed his peanut butter and jelly sandwich into the shape of an AK-47?



Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:49 PM (GQ8sn)

Junk food. Starting next year will be banned from the school grounds. And no this is not a joke or even sarcasm.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (T2V/1)

116 For many years I thought dragon milk came from short-legged cows.

Brother Dave! is that you ?!?

Posted by: Adriane... at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (qoKTg)

117 I didn't get to witness the death of common sense. It happened so quickly.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 03:53 PM (32Ze2)

118 You could make the case, if not here then elsewhere, that rules have replaced sense. "Just following procedure."

Posted by: Wannaownagunosis-sufferer at April 18, 2014 03:53 PM (1/4XQ)

119 Der Schaden. Damage is masculine. Die Schadenfreude, if that's what your going for. Joy is feminine.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 03:51 PM (JtwS4)

Ja, stimmt doch; richtig war Ich. Immer richtig...............

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( and his hair was perfect ) at April 18, 2014 03:53 PM (JyjXt)

120 Another symptom of socialism/communism. Look at all the pretzel logic they employed to justify their actions and power grabs. That's what this is: a demonstration of power. That they are turning on their own (assuming the guy suspended is a lefty, too) might be a good sign. Then again, the ruskies turned on each other immediately and continued it for 75 years.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 03:53 PM (8c12T)

121 I then handed her 26 more quarters. Probably about a
pound of quarters. She was amused and said, "Wow, it really hits you
when you put it like that."

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM
=========
People who pay for cigs and beer with pocket change are usually broke til payday.

Posted by: mrp at April 18, 2014 03:53 PM (JBggj)

122 Well some argue us coming out of the trees was a bad idea...

http://youtu.be/jmeqFqAi-CE

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 03:53 PM (JgpFm)

123 This teacher would have been jailed immediately if his daughter were wearing a shirt with a Joffrey or Tyrion quote on it.


Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (GQ8sn)

124 I started reading, but was like, fuck, that's a lot of words.

So, I don't know exactly what you were tryin' to say, but it sure seems like you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (ZPrif)

125 Poll: 37% of Americans Now Fear The Federal Government…



WZ



Gee, I wonder why?



Sky cops.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (d0Dmj)

126 I think *literally* has been literally over used.

Posted by: Is this something? at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (qQk+U)

127 so....

Okay, I shy away from asking questions when I feel that I'd look dumb for asking them.

I guess I was wrong to claim I usually ask questions.

I *sometimes* ask questions, when I feel I'm on firmer footing about what I'm allowed to be ignorant of, and when I haven't just written a blogpost suggesting (without explicitly stating) that I know a great deal about planetary formation and atmospheric retention.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (/FnUH)

128 There is a very interesting Institutional Hubris in Education.

We are trained to believe teachers are right... we are indoctrinated into that idea...

And THEY get used to never being questioned...

My Mom, case in point... Teacher for 40 some years and even 20 years after retiring, gets all bent out of shape when you question something she says.... even on a subject she knows nothing about.

Now... take that attitude and put them in Charge... and you have School Administrators.

Posted by: 2021... A Space Idiocyncracy at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (84gbM)

129 Today, at her elementary school, the place was put on lock-down and six
police officers in one of their fancy SWAT SUV's were called out for an
unruly 4th grader. Fourth. Grader.


You can thank lawyers for that. Schools are afraid of lawsuits.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 03:56 PM (T0NGe)

130
Fiefdoms must be kept, otherwise they would lose their fiefery.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 03:56 PM (BrAHD)

131 I had some fun with the check-out girl at the local gas and go this
morning. I asked for a pack of cigarettes. She got them. I held a
quarter up in my hand, and said, "This is what I used to pay for a pack
of cigarettes".

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (oGrEy)


Worst pick-up line of the day...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 18, 2014 03:56 PM (AC0lD)

132 125 Poll: 37% of Americans Now Fear The Federal Government…



WZ



Gee, I wonder why?



Sky cops.


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (d0Dmj)


And Phone Cops.....

Posted by: Dr. Johny Fever Was RIGHT! just not ATT, but NSA at April 18, 2014 03:56 PM (84gbM)

133 Poll: 37% of Americans Now Fear The Federal Government

_______

Only 37%? So 63% are complacent fools.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 03:57 PM (0LHZx)

134 It was Worth it....... Seriously.

Posted by: Joey Biden at April 18, 2014 03:57 PM (32Ze2)

135 This is not going to stop until the idiots are personally held responsible and punished,financially, professionally, and personally.

Posted by: rd at April 18, 2014 03:57 PM (N7QgG)

136 The only time I shy away from asking questions is when I don't care about the answer

Posted by: The Jackhole of Alan Parsons pissed off project at April 18, 2014 03:57 PM (uOV6o)

137 Only 37%? So 63% are complacent fools.>>

Or fear it enough not to point themselves out to it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (tf9Ne)

138 Because a child wearing an oversized T-shirt with a quote from GoT doing a backbend is EXACTLY like threatening someone with a gun.

Exactly.

We really are two countrys. One is proficient is 100+ year old technology and the other one is out of its fucking mind.

Half this country should be forced to wear a helmet when they go outside.

Posted by: B at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (XyoGP)

139 Only 37%? So 63% are complacent fools.

FSA

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (thLL8)

140 Almost everything sciency I know comes from asking "stupid" questions. Thing is, people who actual enjoy science are more than happy to answer, even the "page of math that then takes a week to really explain" answers. There's real joy in explaining something interesting to another - don't deny that joy to others out of your own embarrassment, as your only reward will be ignorance.

Posted by: LGW at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (+BmfA)

141


Imagine if she was wearing this for a t-shit.
They'd probably call out a SWAT team.
http://tinyurl.com/n4g94cu

Posted by: YIKES! at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (mETGQ)

142 >>>...she did not believe that the college had acted unfairly, especially considering that there were three school shootings nationwide in January, prior to Schmidt’s post.


Non-sequitur we much?

Posted by: dogfish at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (nsOJa)

143 He's a college professor. Probability is extremely high that he's a liberal.

Let him suffer. Most likely he helped create this insane culture. Now he gets to feel its effects.

Posted by: Caiwyn at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (MmZIj)

144 in other news a t-shirt saying "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" is fine.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (rDidD)

145 By my reading "what" can be code for "Minuteman III."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (659DL)

146 Well in the case of the Earth, the Moon has acted as a brake slowly lengthening the day. Along with creating tides. And acting as a meteor shield.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (JgpFm)

147
I *sometimes* ask questions, when I feel I'm on firmer footing about what I'm allowed to be ignorant of, and when I haven't just written a blogpost suggesting (without explicitly stating) that I know a great deal about planetary formation and atmospheric retention.

Yeah, but as the Den Mother you have to maintain some sense of authority. It's different for us morons down in the pits. Bandersnatch Rules of Internetary Procedure say it's illegal to look things up. You have to bring what you have in your cranium, even if it's wrong or lacking.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (JtwS4)

148 I think *literally* has been literally over used.

Posted by: Is this something?


Basically ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (ujux6)

149 " Khaleesi" has become popular as a girls name.It's a title but whatever,I wouldn't name my kids after fantasy characters but that's just me.

Posted by: steevy at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (zqvg6)

150 "Will" means "sarin gas."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (659DL)

151

"she did not believe that the college had acted unfairly, especially considering that there were three school shootings nationwide in January, prior to Schmidt’s post."

Yes. They were all by dragons.

Posted by: NCC at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (svwAc)

152
in other news a t-shirt saying "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" is fine.



Should result in a droning.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (d0Dmj)

153
Yeah, I'm sorry, but any male who finds himself on Team Danaeris Targaryan is suspect.

I think the school did the right thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (TOk1P)

154 Or fear it enough not to point themselves out to it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (tf9Ne)

______

No, I think that 63% just doesn't know what's going on. If you only get your news from the MSM, all is well and there is nothing to be afraid of. Govt does great things like educate kids, builds roads, gives us free health care. You have to be some kind of extremist domestic terrorist to fear the govt.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (0LHZx)

155 @135 William F. Buckley, Jr., formed the Committee to Horse-whip Drew Pearson (the Stalinist newspaper man, not the Dallas Cowboys receiver). I s'pose that would be actionable these days.
Gutta percha, Baby, gutta percha.
Jus' sayin'.

Posted by: Wannaownagunosis-sufferer at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (1/4XQ)

156 ace, you gotta hang out with me. Literally. You could learn a lot. I am pretty damn smart. Ask me about Law School.....

Posted by: Joey Biden at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (32Ze2)

157 And no, I don't care if I spell the name wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (TOk1P)

158 did they send the MILITARIZED COP THUGS!!!11!! to get him yet?

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (krmE0)

159 Somebody should probably tell the Russian dudes with guns that that Obama and Kerry worked out a deal with Putin in Geneva.

The Interpreter ‏@Interpreter_Mag 3m
Ukraine Liveblog: Separatists Hold Mayor of Slaviansk, Gunmen Say Mayor Resigning for Health Reasons http://bit.ly/1r5si6X

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (ZPrif)

160 Worst pick-up line of the day...

The day I go cruising for chicks at the 'Gas and Go' is the day I call my daughter and tell her to put me in the home she promised me. The one -- in her words -- "The bad one, the one with the Nightline camera crew out front."

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (oGrEy)

161 It's a title but whatever,I wouldn't name my kids after fantasy characters but that's just me.

How about not naming them after one of the most annoying characters ever?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (659DL)

162 >>>Yeah, I'm sorry, but any male who finds himself on Team Danaeris Targaryan is suspect.

I think the school did the right thing.

...


that's because you're racist and support Mereen slavery

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (/FnUH)

163 a similar tshirt with a picture of GWB's head on a pike, no problem.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (rDidD)

164 Yeah, but as the Den Mother you have to maintain some sense of
authority. It's different for us morons down in the pits. Bandersnatch
Rules of Internetary Procedure say it's illegal to look things up. You
have to bring what you have in your cranium, even if it's wrong or
lacking.



I'm so screwed.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (d0Dmj)

165 Anyway,sounds like they were pissed with him and used this as an excuse.

Posted by: steevy at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (zqvg6)

166 Say, what is the origin of the "part that goes down" gag?

Posted by: Pious Agnostic at April 18, 2014 04:01 PM (5xqg/)

167 I didn't get around to this on the LAPD drone thread, but I would like to dub the LAPD...wait for it...


...American Ninja Voyeurs

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 04:01 PM (MKpBT)

168 "is" clearly is an anagram of "machete"

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2014 04:01 PM (659DL)

169 @114 ace

Apparently the size of the moon and nature of the initial impact made a perfect moon for, ironically, preventing rapid climate change due to nutty polar wobbling.

The moon impact has to be the most important single event for life on earth other than the sun turning on.

Posted by: Beagle at April 18, 2014 04:01 PM (sOtz/)

170 I used to say we would be better off if the CIA, FBI, and State Department were all razed, and we started with entirely new organizations to replace them.

I now believe it would be a net gain if every college administrator were fired. Whether we replaced them or not.

Posted by: NCC at April 18, 2014 03:51 PM (svwAc)


the key was they used to be competing agencies. We could use one to watch, and investigate, another.

Now they are all under the same roof in DHS... and Justice...

It was like Military Intelligence and the CIA used to compete.... now they are all under the same commander in the National Security Advisor...

Heck... the reason the Secret Service became the President's body guard was that the Pres did not trust the FBI...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 04:01 PM (84gbM)

171 Has anyone checked to see if there has been a spike in people naming their children Joffrey?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 04:01 PM (JgpFm)

172 Imagine the freakout if he posted a picture of a trip to a shooting range?

Posted by: rd at April 18, 2014 04:02 PM (N7QgG)

173 Ukraine Liveblog: Separatists Hold Mayor of Slaviansk, Gunmen Say Mayor Resigning for Health Reasons



Lead poisoning.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:02 PM (d0Dmj)

174 Real life "argument" used by a liberal on my husband.

"You just think because you use logic, you're right!"

Uh....

Posted by: Lauren at April 18, 2014 04:02 PM (hFL/3)

175 @129 Today, at her elementary school, the place was put on lock-down and six police officers in one of their fancy SWAT SUV's were called out for an unruly 4th grader. Fourth. Grader.
You can thank lawyers for that. Schools are afraid of lawsuits.
Posted by: AmishDude
________________________

Most of the credit should go to judges, most of whom were too stupid or lazy to cut it in private practice. The remainder of the credit should go to politicians who run around with their hair on fire and pass legislation so that "this won't ever happen again" and then give the law a child's name. Gah!

Posted by: Furious George at April 18, 2014 04:02 PM (yFb77)

176 129 Today, at her elementary school, the place was put on lock-down and six
police officers in one of their fancy SWAT SUV's were called out for an
unruly 4th grader. Fourth. Grader.
***

Several years ago a local school near me went into lockdown because a passing motorist on the interstate saw (at 70+ mph!) a guy walking the fence near the school ground with a long object that looked like a rifle.

Two hours later they went off of lockdown. For a surveyor with a theodolite on a tripod.

And they wonder why gun owners think antis are ridiculous.


Posted by: B at April 18, 2014 04:02 PM (XyoGP)

177 Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (thLL

That's probably a low number as a lot of people were afraid of answering that question.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 04:03 PM (JS0vr)

178 Yeah, I'm sorry, but any male who finds himself on Team Danaeris Targaryan is suspect.

I think the school did the right thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 03:59 PM (TOk1P)

Well, consider me suspect, cuz she's finern' frawg hair.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 18, 2014 04:03 PM (vn9w4)

179
Still believe an R can win another national election?

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 04:03 PM (9lyhM)

180 The one -- in her words -- "The bad one, the one with the Nightline camera crew out front."
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 18, 2014 04:00 PM (oGrEy)

___________

Grandpa Simpson was put in a good home. Well it was good according to Homer since it had been featured on 60 Minutes and that made it good, right?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 04:03 PM (0LHZx)

181 171 Those are the ones that need to be watched.

Posted by: steevy at April 18, 2014 04:03 PM (zqvg6)

182
That right there is some bad linoleum.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 04:03 PM (oMKp3)

183 true, but it helps if you're borderline smart to start with.

I think too many people falsely assume they're "borderline smart".

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 04:04 PM (T0NGe)

184 I wonder what was in the subject line of the original email.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 18, 2014 04:05 PM (tf9Ne)

185 true, but it helps if you're borderline smart to start with.



I think too many people falsely assume they're "borderline smart".




I was. Then someone went and moved the borders.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:05 PM (d0Dmj)

186 I think too many people falsely assume they're "borderline smart".

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 04:04 PM (T0NGe)
-------------------
Literally

Posted by: Joey Biden at April 18, 2014 04:05 PM (32Ze2)

187 Did the kid's face get blurred?

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 04:05 PM (5UteM)

188 Several years ago a local school near me went into lockdown because a passing motorist on the interstate saw (at 70+ mph!) a guy walking the fence near the school ground with a long object that looked like a rifle.

Two hours later they went off of lockdown. For a surveyor with a theodolite on a tripod.

And they wonder why gun owners think antis are ridiculous.


Posted by: B at April 18, 2014 04:02 PM (XyoGP)

______________

Remember, if you see something, say something*

Only if the something doesn't involve Muslim 20-something year old men acting suspiciously. That's racist.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 04:06 PM (0LHZx)

189 >>He should call in Pelosi, she's pretty good down on her knees washing dirty filthy things.
Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines

How did Mr Pelosi's penis get into the discussion?

Posted by: Aviator at April 18, 2014 04:06 PM (3rrMW)

190
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 04:01 PM (84gbM)


The Soviets seperated their security into 3 seperate organizations.

It was paranoid. But no one was ever able to pull off a coup, even when faced with someone crazy like Stalin. Stalin died in bed, not up against a wall.

Posted by: rd at April 18, 2014 04:06 PM (N7QgG)

191 Thirteen plus Sherpa guides were killed on Mt. Everest in an avalanche.

http://tinyurl.com/logru93

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 04:06 PM (JgpFm)

192 I'm borderline something. Says so on my prescriptions.

Posted by: ProgChick 2000 at April 18, 2014 04:06 PM (ZPrif)

193 Forget the shirt.... Look at the poor girls face! HE SMUDGED IT OUT!!!!!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 04:06 PM (32Ze2)

194 182

That right there is some bad linoleum.

Posted by: grammie winger


Factor in the asbestos and you have child abuse.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 04:06 PM (5UteM)

195 Is Reek popular?

Posted by: Beagle at April 18, 2014 04:06 PM (sOtz/)

196 I wonder what was in the subject line of the original email.


Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 18, 2014 04:05 PM (tf9Ne)


"who was notified automatically via Google that the picture had been posted apparently took it as a threat."


Evidently it was something along the lines of, "XXX has posted a new pic on Google+."

Posted by: Country Singer at April 18, 2014 04:07 PM (vn9w4)

197 The prof needs to take some photography lessons, too.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 18, 2014 04:07 PM (BAS5M)

198 That young child looks like he may be in some sort of sexual position. Hmmmmm.

Posted by: NJ DFACS Social Worker at April 18, 2014 04:07 PM (thLL8)

199 It was paranoid. But no one was ever able to pull off a coup, even when faced with someone crazy like Stalin. Stalin died in bed, not up against a wall.
Posted by: rd at April

it was the doctors the got him.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 04:07 PM (rDidD)

200
My daughter would shoot me if I posted a picture of my grandchild on a dirty floor like that. I'd be living in Purell prison for the rest of my life.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 04:07 PM (oMKp3)

201 Factor in the asbestos and you have child abuse.

That too.

Posted by: NJ DFACS Social Worker at April 18, 2014 04:08 PM (thLL8)

202 Not saying this would surprise me but I wish there was more than one source (that everyone is just repeating ad nasium)

Posted by: The Dude at April 18, 2014 04:09 PM (bStrg)

203 We saw this and we were going to zap it from orbit but thank heavens the college stepped it.

Posted by: LA Sheriffs Big-Brother-Like Eye in the Sky at April 18, 2014 04:09 PM (Dwehj)

204 this is hilarious. They were always called Bergen *county* community college. I guess they dropped the "county" because it makes it sound like a fourth rate commuter college for kids whose ambition (and grades) does stray too far from route 17

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 18, 2014 04:10 PM (LWu6U)

205 On the other hand...

How many of you would accept an invitation to attend a Game of Thrones theme wedding?

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 18, 2014 04:10 PM (5xmd7)

206 "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

Posted by: Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy at April 18, 2014 04:10 PM (fmKA/)

207 Did not read the previous thread about LA and its spy in the sky. But you know who it reminds me of? Chavez when he sought to buy blimps to monitor Caracas.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2007/04/south-american-gas-bag.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 04:11 PM (JgpFm)

208 That kid's face now looks like that painting that the church cleaning lady over in Italy (or wherever) touched up and re-painted. I'm too lazy to look it up.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 04:11 PM (MKpBT)

209 @205

I'll take a table by the back door.

Posted by: Beagle at April 18, 2014 04:12 PM (sOtz/)

210 "In related news, civilization itself was a major misstep and that error probably should be corrected as soon as possible."



Yeah, I'm thinking you won't have to wait overly long on that.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 04:12 PM (oMKp3)

211
162 -

Ooh, may the sons of the harpy visit you in your bed tonight!

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 04:13 PM (TOk1P)

212 Well, in fairness, the type of dragon alluded to is an "Assault Dragon,"
with extended stomach-magazines for additional literal fire-power.

So was this a semi-automatic or full-automatic dragon ?

Did the dragon have a fully opposable digit, therefore making it possible to use a hand-grip ?

Was any part of the dragon "foldable" ?

Would the dragon be detectable in a metal scanner ?

Posted by: Jim Bowie at April 18, 2014 04:13 PM (e8kgV)

213 In order for there to be a "credible threat" does it not have to be directed at some person or identifiable group? All I saw was a picture of some kid with some pseudo-Medieval slogan on her shirt. How does that translate into a "threat" against anyone, unless there was some undisclosed context?


At least it's just left-on-left stupid. Buy moar popcorn.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2014 04:13 PM (4m+Gx)

214 Made my youngest miserable today because I was not enthusiastic about prom dresses. However, I am still having fun with old CCR nonsense (and I know for a fact her AP Enviro teacher is late 20s and does not have the historical grasp) and reminding her that everything old is new again.

Her current subversive plan is to get friends to blast old music as a processional. It could work (and I might even throw in some cash) if they are brave enough.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at April 18, 2014 04:13 PM (MIKMs)

215 Say, what is the origin of the "part that goes down" gag?

Posted by: Pious Agnostic


It's a riff on a quote from Carolyn McCarthy, an NY Congressturkey, when asked to define a 'barrel shroud,' said she didn't know but, "I believe it's a shoulder thing that goes up."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2014 04:14 PM (ujux6)

216 We're pretty gosh darned excited up here about the next LA County Tea Party meetup.

Posted by: LA Sheriffs Big-Brother-Like Eye in the Sky at April 18, 2014 04:15 PM (Dwehj)

217 Obama wimps out on Keystone decision on Friday afternoon ...

The Obama administration on Friday extended the review period on the Keystone XL pipeline, perhaps pushing back a final decision on the disputed project until after the Nov. 4 congressional elections.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a tweet that officials are reviewing some 2.5 million public comments, and that agencies need to more time to assess the impact of a pending lawsuit in Nebraska over the pipeline route.

Posted by: Reit Butler at April 18, 2014 04:15 PM (e8kgV)

218 "thing that goes up" as opposed to a Monty Python skit where "things go ping"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 04:15 PM (JgpFm)

219 @213

Ordinarily yes. But in this case the child was also armed with an assault Pop Tart.

Posted by: Beagle at April 18, 2014 04:15 PM (sOtz/)

220 it could be worse
she could be wearing a packers jersey

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 18, 2014 04:16 PM (krmE0)

221 Say, what is the origin of the "part that goes down" gag?

Posted by: Pious Agnostic

It's
a riff on a quote from Carolyn McCarthy, an NY Congressturkey, when
asked to define a 'barrel shroud,' said she didn't know but, "I believe
it's a shoulder thing that goes up."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2014 04:14 PM (ujux6)


http://youtu.be/ospNRk2uM3U

Posted by: Country Singer at April 18, 2014 04:16 PM (vn9w4)

222 Or a Cubs shirt...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 18, 2014 04:16 PM (JgpFm)

223 Assault feline.

Top of picture.

Burn him at the stake.

Posted by: MJ at April 18, 2014 04:16 PM (oari7)

224 Posted by: navycopjoe at April 18, 2014 04:16 PM (krmE0)



I heard that.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 04:17 PM (oMKp3)

225
195 -

Sadly, probably not as popular as Ramsey Snow.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 04:17 PM (TOk1P)

226 We never should have came down from the trees.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 18, 2014 04:17 PM (VjL9S)

227 Bergen Community College. #1 rated college for aspiring bloggers.

Posted by: It's a joke at April 18, 2014 04:17 PM (nsOJa)

228 Sadly, Packers have better commercials.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at April 18, 2014 04:17 PM (MIKMs)

229 OT:

Rasmussen just posted numbers for a poll matching Pat Roberts and Kathleen Sebelius for the Kansas 2014 US Senate Race. Roberts 54 Sebelius 37.

LINK (Rasmussen): http://preview.tinyurl.com/mr28o2d

Posted by: mrp at April 18, 2014 04:18 PM (JBggj)

230 Just explain to the community college administrators that Game of Thrones is a show obsessed with floppy penises. All will be forgiven.

Posted by: wooga at April 18, 2014 04:18 PM (6KuDG)

231 Just think of the hysteria you can create wearing your Kaboom! T-shirt, ace.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 18, 2014 04:19 PM (cHZB7)

232 222 224 heh

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 18, 2014 04:19 PM (krmE0)

233 Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2014 04:14 PM (ujux6)

http://youtu.be/ospNRk2uM3U

Posted by: Country Singer


Thanks, Hodor.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2014 04:19 PM (ujux6)

234 Suppose I'm wearing my second-best "I'm With Stupid" T-shirt, and I end up in line next to some fucking idiot? Am I to be sued for harassment? I'll need another lawyer on retainer.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 18, 2014 04:19 PM (ZshNr)

235 11 I can understand this. College administrators are some of the most vindictive and stupid people on earth…...
Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (T2V/1)

People in supervisory or management positions, who know deep down that they are inadequate and incompetent are some of the most vindictive and stupid people on earth. If you've ever worked for someone who is an idiot, you learn that your best bet, when they suggest something stupid at a meeting, is to keep your mouth shut. I knew one woman who would hold a grudge for a year or more. On the flip side, they are very easily manipulated with phony compliments.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 18, 2014 04:20 PM (SH7t3)

236
Speaking of the Cubs, they are losing today. Again. Of course.


Please God, just once before I die ......

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 04:20 PM (oMKp3)

237 "I just found out I was banned at Crooks and Liars (you will never find a
more wretched hive of stupidity and ignorance) for some comment I made a
while ago. ... I have no idea what I said as they have deleted the comment"

I have found that on many lefty blogs, you can be banned for simply posting a link to an earlier posting on the same blog that factually contradicts the current blog posting. Nothing more than that single action.

Doing such things is an indication that you are Not Of The Body.

Good leftists who are Of The Body are expected neither to notice nor to comment upon any internal contradictions in the left's thinking.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 04:20 PM (noWW6)

238 Posted by: nerdygirl at April 18, 2014 04:20 PM (SH7t3)
_________________
My are you ever looking good today.....

(Runs away)

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 04:21 PM (32Ze2)

239 104 I just found out I was banned at Crooks and Liars (you will never find a more wretched hive of stupidity and ignorance) for some comment I made a while ago. (taken there by some link cause I don't make a habit of hanging out there).

Helllloooo!

Posted by: Democratic Underground at April 18, 2014 04:21 PM (y95w9)

240 Everyone, no matter how competent, is one innocent comment away from being fired, shunned, and destroyed. I'm tired of this over-protective over-reactive over-offended at everything trend.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 04:21 PM (Fd8YL)

241 "But the stupid know so little they cannot differentiate between those things they should be ashamed of being ignorant of and those that they shouldn't, so, always fighting from the position of a defensive flinch, they feel ashamed about being ignorant of everything, which would be fine, but being stupid, and therefore, in the center of themselves, aggressive and hostile, they lash out at their phantasmal "oppressors" by any means they can."

And this is exactly why Alinsky's Rules for Radicals don't work in reverse.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at April 18, 2014 04:22 PM (PZ6/M)

242
236 -

God has seen fit to award the Red Sox with three championships in the past 10 years.

I think that is evidence enough that He just doesn't care anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 04:22 PM (TOk1P)

243 Liberalism and political correctness will destroy the world.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 18, 2014 04:23 PM (xmcEQ)

244 And SF twice(?)

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 04:24 PM (fsLdt)

245 The professor in question should learn his lesson: if he was a vocal left-winger, none of the punishment bits would have happened.

Posted by: Null at April 18, 2014 04:24 PM (DuH+r)

246
especially considering that there were three school shootings nationwide

I wouldn't trust their count of "school shootings". Piers Morgan was blabbing about some high number of school shootings, so I looked it up. The "study" was counting things like gangs shooting at each other at 2am near a school as a school shooting. They also counted things like teachers and students coming onto campus and killing themselves there. It's dishonest because they want you to think these are people coming onto campus during school hours to kill others.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 04:24 PM (3hZ7H)

247
244 -

Amen. Tis true.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 18, 2014 04:24 PM (TOk1P)

248 238 Posted by: nerdygirl at April 18, 2014 04:20 PM (SH7t3)
_________________
My are you ever looking good today.....

(Runs away)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 04:21 PM (32Ze2)

I prefer, " Have you lost weight recently?"

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 18, 2014 04:25 PM (SH7t3)

249 At last, a real scandal ...

APRIL 17--A federal criminal investigation has uncovered a “large-scale theft” operation inside Nike’s Oregon headquarters, a scheme that targeted valuable sneaker prototypes and involved a Nike product manager, his predecessor at the shoe giant, and a Florida businessman who resold the “extremely rare” kicks to buyers nationwide, The Smoking Gun has learned.

Posted by: King Leonidas at April 18, 2014 04:25 PM (e8kgV)

250 Alduin is coming...


FUS RO DAH!


Hope you haven't taken an arrow in the knee so you can get away.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 18, 2014 04:25 PM (z/Ubi)

251 Apropos of nothing, I've switched my viewing allegiance to The Stormborn since the half-wit Rob Stark got his inevitable reward. Unless the Tomboy Stark gets her murderous act on. Then, it's a toss up.

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 04:26 PM (QupBk)

252 "The greatest offense you can inflict on a stupid, ignorant person is to tell him something he doesn't know, and there's no possible way to avoid this offense, because the list of things he does not know is vast."


I don't know. Pointing and laughing is pretty damn effective.

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:27 PM (x3YFz)

253 Seen on Twitter: 10th-level racism:

http://tinyurl.com/mkeshm7

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 04:28 PM (T0NGe)

254 245 The professor in question should learn his lesson: if he was a vocal left-winger, none of the punishment bits would have happened.
Posted by: Null at April 18, 2014 04:24 PM (DuH+r)


He really needed to get out there and network his particular version of blithering retarded. It would have never come to this.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 18, 2014 04:28 PM (y95w9)

255 Heh...I attended this gawd awful school 20 years ago. It was good for 2 things, Chicks, and the 2 or 3 bars on Paramus Rd. leading to the main entrance.






Posted by: dananjcon at April 18, 2014 04:29 PM (NpXoL)

256 The greatest offense you can inflict on a stupid, ignorant person is to tell him something he doesn't know,

I did not know that,
you bastard.

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 04:29 PM (DL2i+)

257
You know the old saw, "in academia the fights are so bitter because the stakes are so low".

Remember where this started. Daenerys' Dad wanted a sabbatical, didn't get it, so he filed a grievance. (Gonna try this at work. "Dear Boss, I would like a year off with pay to follow my dreams".) So, the guy who has a smidge more power at Bergen Community College gets to deny him this indulgence, and having wielded this mighty power knows that Daenery's Dad is sending a direct threat of blood and AK-47s at him, because he is so important.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 04:30 PM (JtwS4)

258 I did not know that,
you bastard.


I laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 04:30 PM (QupBk)

259
Seen on Twitter: 10th-level racism

I don't like watermelon, but I support Oreo's attempts to make a variety of tasty cookies.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 04:30 PM (3hZ7H)

260 Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 04:28 PM (T0NGe)



Is that a real thing? Huh.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 18, 2014 04:30 PM (oMKp3)

261

In related news, civilization itself was a major misstep and that error probably should be corrected as soon as possible.



I'm dreading walking upright these days,
but my back is out.



Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 04:30 PM (DL2i+)

262 114 I also didn't know about speculations about the moon's role in making earth a life-friendly world.

(I looked that up on my own, but didn't ask questions, and in fact argued against the point when it was first raised by, I think, maddog.)

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 03:52 PM (/FnUH)


Man I got screwed out of my making ace feel stupid hat tip.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 18, 2014 04:31 PM (z/Ubi)

263 Everyone, no matter how competent, is one innocent comment away from being fired, shunned, and destroyed. I'm tired of this over-protective over-reactive over-offended at everything trend.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 04:21 PM (Fd8YL)

I called my boss an asshole on some obscure website. It actually got back to him. Instead of manning up about it, he acted like (drum roll) an asshole.

Someone calls me an asshole, first thing I do is ask myself "what's for dinner?" Then! I ask "what'd I do to make this guy think I'm an asshole?"

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:31 PM (x3YFz)

264
Volokh mentions in passing but doesn't provide a link to the professor whose crime was putting up a Firefly poster with the quote from Captain Reynolds of if I have to kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be armed, and you'll be facing me. That was amusing because the campus clowns...cops...took that as a threat of violence. Ah, here it is:

http://bit.ly/QtL0tv

I forgot that he'd replaced the original with one mocking facism...they found that unacceptable as well...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 18, 2014 04:31 PM (1hM1d)

265 I'm dreading walking upright these days

We never should have listened to the monolith.

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 04:31 PM (QupBk)

266 From Weasel Zippers:

Update:

Mohammed Pedro Whitaker has been identified as the alleged Kansas City highway shooter and has been charged with 18 felonies from 9 separate incidents around the city metro region.

http://tinyurl.com/my4nxgx

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:32 PM (d0Dmj)

267
Bergen Community College. #1 rated college for aspiring bloggers.


Posted by: It's a joke at April 18, 2014 04:17 PM (nsOJa)

Hey....I resemble that remark!!!
Literally, see 255.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 18, 2014 04:33 PM (NpXoL)

268 nood martians

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:33 PM (d0Dmj)

269 "Mohammed Pedro Whitaker"

Sounds like a nice Irish-Catholic boy.

//

Posted by: dananjcon at April 18, 2014 04:34 PM (NpXoL)

270
Someone calls me an asshole, first thing I do is ask myself "what's for dinner?"

If someone calls me an asshole, I usually answer with "yes, and?" if they whine some more, I give them "I can only satisfy one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking so good, either."

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 18, 2014 04:35 PM (1hM1d)

271 Update:

Mohammed Pedro Whitaker has been identified as the alleged Kansas City highway shooter and has been charged with 18 felonies from 9 separate incidents around the city metro region.

http://tinyurl.com/my4nxgx

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 04:32 PM (d0Dmj)



If Owebama had a son.........

Posted by: © Sponge at April 18, 2014 04:35 PM (xmcEQ)

272

Mohammed Pedro Whitaker has been identified as the alleged Kansas City highway shooter and has been charged with 18 felonies from 9 separate incidents around the city metro region.

The police chief shared this nugget of wisdom at the news conference:
“I wanted to make sure the residents and those who travel throughKansasCity know they’re safe. They’ve been safe the whole time.”

Safe the whole time? With a random nutbag shooting at passing cars?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 18, 2014 04:36 PM (3hZ7H)

273
Mohammed Pedro Whitaker has been identified as the alleged Kansas City highway shooter and has been charged with 18 felonies from 9 separate incidents around the city metro region.

The cops reluctance to name their suspect earlier today suddenly comes into crisp focus.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 18, 2014 04:36 PM (1hM1d)

274 Someone calls me an asshole, first thing I do is ask myself "what's for dinner?" Then! I ask "what'd I do to make this guy think I'm an asshole?"

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:31 PM (x3YFz)


LOL.... someone calls me an Asshole... I say...

Yes?... so?

Of course... if someone says 'Fck you"... if its a guy I say "no thanks, Hetero..." or if its a girl start at her feet, look her up and down, and say "no thanks..."

If'n someone calls me a pussy? "You are what you eat.... Dick..."

Comebacks for all occasions....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 04:36 PM (84gbM)

275 new one

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 04:37 PM (T2V/1)

276 If someone calls me an asshole, I usually answer with "yes, and?" if they whine some more, I give them "I can only satisfy one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking so good, either."

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 18, 2014 04:35 PM (1hM1d)

I query them: an elephant's asshole or Heidi Klum's? There's a big difference in my level of being offended.

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:37 PM (x3YFz)

277 Haven't read all the comments here, but I wonder what the reaction would have been if it had been some murderous quote from Che or PolPot or Stalin. Would there have been any reaction at all?

Posted by: Cicero418 at April 18, 2014 04:39 PM (S35wq)

278 Khaleesi, Mother of Dragons
I think I dated her, once, in college.

Posted by: JB1000 at April 18, 2014 04:41 PM (bzVvg)

279
Also, Smaug is on line 1. Something about I'll show those fools real dragon fire!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 18, 2014 04:42 PM (1hM1d)

280 Meanwhile back at the Senate, the majority leader makes credible threats almost daily and nobody seems to notice this vile little prick legislator who thinks he's Al Fucking Capone.

Posted by: Fritz at April 18, 2014 04:45 PM (oJUxt)

281 . . .the security official said that “fire” could be a kind of proxy for “AK-47s.”

So then is Alaska's postal abbreviation.

Posted by: profligatewaste at April 18, 2014 04:46 PM (R3JkO)

282 So...the only thing that remains of The Constitution are bits and pieces of the 1st and 2nd Amendment, then.

'Cause government sponsored and paid jack booted thugs are pretty much ignoring the rest of it.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at April 18, 2014 04:47 PM (q6kaG)

283 281
. . .the security official said that “fire” could be a kind of proxy for “AK-47s.”

A mall cop reject quote if I ever saw one. Does he have one bullet in his pocket?

Posted by: Lester at April 18, 2014 04:48 PM (2UPXV)

284 "Piers Morgan was blabbing about some high number of school shootings, so
I looked it up. The 'study' was counting things like gangs shooting at
each other at 2am near a school as a school shooting."

See also: teenaged criminals shooting one another, or being shot by police, being reported as "gun deaths of innocent children".

The left have been playing that tune for a long time now.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 04:53 PM (noWW6)

285 Why come you don't have a tattoo??

Posted by: Doctor Lexus at April 18, 2014 05:19 PM (d7lzv)

286 I took a summer school class at this moronic Community Collidge, after lying about the text they used in it to the department chair at my college. Truly a school of sub-human retards.

Posted by: whatever at April 18, 2014 05:32 PM (Wf0EB)

287 I heard that it was actually a "stand your ground," "assault" dragon.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 18, 2014 05:32 PM (DTVYh)

288 "Speaking of the Cubs, they are losing today. Again. Of course.
Please God, just once before I die ......"

Thou shalt not put the LORD thy God to the test!!

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 18, 2014 06:13 PM (5xmd7)

289 The professor should make it up to the college staff by inviting them to his kid's wedding. Easy-peasy.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 18, 2014 06:30 PM (hn5v5)

290 "Speaking of the Cubs, they are losing today. Again. Of course.

Please God, just once before I die ..."

So where do you want me to start building the bridge?

Posted by: allah at April 18, 2014 06:31 PM (hn5v5)

291 Dad at my son's little league t-ball game the other night had a t-shirt with two nearly life-sized crossed AR-15s and the words IT'S MY RIGHT surrounding them. No one batted an eye.

Can't imagine that going down in, say, the People's Republic of Pugetopolis, where I'm from.

Posted by: Republic of Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo at April 18, 2014 07:02 PM (Gk2GE)

292 Bergen county NJ.
Has some of the priciest towns like Upper Saddle River, Rivervale...
And some of the most hardcore limosine libtards.
Yet they still have Sunday blue laws.
Go figure.

Posted by: Soon to be XNYer at April 18, 2014 08:31 PM (8/dgB)

293 Great post, spot on as usual.

Posted by: Corona at April 18, 2014 09:40 PM (fh2Y7)

294 "Well, in fairness, the type of dragon alluded to is an "Assault Dragon,"
with extended stomach-magazines for additional literal fire-power."

Ok, that is strong. Well done, Ace.

Posted by: John at April 18, 2014 10:38 PM (+piKT)

295 This is one of the many reasons you should never friend your coworkers.

Posted by: Lea at April 18, 2014 11:33 PM (/bd0t)

LA Sheriffs Kept Big-Brother-Like Eye in the Sky Technology Secret, for Fears That the Public Wouldn't Approve

There is an argument against the technology itself. I'm not going to make that argument, because there's a much more obvious argument to be had here:

What on earth is the government of an alleged democratic republic doing hiding its actions from a supposedly free citizenry for fear that the citizens may object?

“The system was kind of kept confidential from everybody in the public,” (LASD Sgt.) Iketani said. “A lot of people do have a problem with the eye in the sky, the Big Brother, so in order to mitigate any of those kinds of complaints, we basically kept it pretty hush-hush.”

"In order to mitigate any of those kind of complaints."

The logic here is incredible, and yet, at the same time, perhaps inevitable.

We're going to be doing one thing that's creepy and scary -- watching you 24/7 per day -- so the thing we'll do to "mitigate those kinds of complaints" is also subvert democracy by keeping it secret from the public.

Like I say, perhaps this is inevitable -- if you're doing one scary thing, then logic dictates you "mitigate" it by doing an even scarier thing.

What the hell is going on in this country?

Posted by: Ace at 02:42 PM



Comments

1
What the hell is going on in this country?



Progressives !

Posted by: Guy with the hair tsock at April 18, 2014 02:44 PM (DL2i+)

2 What on earth is the government of an alleged democratic republic doing hiding its actions from a supposedly free citizenry for fear that the citizens may object?

What?, indeed.

Posted by: Michael "Don't FOIA my research, man" Mann at April 18, 2014 02:44 PM (T0NGe)

3 Ha,
El Segundo.

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 02:44 PM (DL2i+)

4 Maybe we ought to just up and move to that new planet.

Posted by: weew at April 18, 2014 02:44 PM (EaEMG)

5 Chelsea's pregnant!!

Posted by: CNN\NBC\ABC\CBS\PBS\NYT\WashPost at April 18, 2014 02:45 PM (IdOTf)

6 What the hell is going on in this country?/i]

Go away! 'Baiting!

Posted by: L to th' I to the' V at April 18, 2014 02:45 PM (ujux6)

7 Just wait until they get their hands on the Zola Algorithm.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 02:45 PM (DrWcr)

8 What the hell is going on in this country?

The important thing is to support Jeb Bush or get out.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 18, 2014 02:45 PM (veDtP)

9 Who is the sovereign here?

The government or the people?

So if someone tells the people that the government is stealing apples for example, whom do we lock up? The govt wrongdoers or the whistleblower??

Those who dismiss Snowden as nothing but a traitor are dangerous, dangerous people...

Posted by: prescient11 at April 18, 2014 02:45 PM (tVTLU)

10 This government would never stage a 9/11 style attack in order to justify its increasing encroachment on our liberties.

Posted by: SlackAttack at April 18, 2014 02:46 PM (l+QuE)

11
Alternate post title:

Our Government Betters: What You Don't Know Can't Hurt You

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 02:46 PM (9lyhM)

12 Mohammed Pedro Whitaker has been identified as the alleged Kansas City highway shooter and has been charged with 18 felonies from 9 separate incidents around the city metro region.

... yet another of Barack son's

Posted by: Qari Esmhatulla at April 18, 2014 02:46 PM (e8kgV)

13 Sorry for all the ruckus. How was I supposed to know you lot fear your government?

Posted by: The Desert Tortoise at April 18, 2014 02:46 PM (JtwS4)

14 Heh. Stomped question

A couple of weeks ago, there was a thread re the Koch brothers PAC spending vs. everyone else.

Can someone clue me as to the method of searching all AoSHQ threads?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 02:47 PM (aDwsi)

15 I don't mind them using helicopters etc to watch people. The courts have long ago ruled that there can be no "reasonable right to privacy" for people who are out in the public ding public things.


I just wish the thugs would stopping shooting grandma and her dog because they kick in the wrong door during their unholy war on drugs that we lost decades ago.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 02:47 PM (T2V/1)

16 well, there is a problem in the citizen - government relationship, someone has forgotten that they serve the citizens.

It is not so different in the obamacare information problem. yo may want to play games with the congress but who the fuck do yo think you are taking our money and using our resources to implement a law and force us to comply with it and not give us the information? nothing about obamacare is secret and nothing anywhere entitles you to take and hold information.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 02:47 PM (rDidD)

17 If you don't mind I'm going to install cameras in the locker room showers of the Dallas Cowboy's cheerleaders, but to mitigate complaints I'll keep it a secret.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 02:47 PM (Fd8YL)

18 "What the hell is going on in this country?"

Really good question.
I knew Obama would shift things but I couldn't have seen how quickly things would change. This LA thing is not even that surprising after NSA, TSA, and all of the federal agencies (including Dept. of Ed.) creating and using their own SWAT teams to harass citizens.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 02:47 PM (IdOTf)

19 If you've got nothing to hide you shouldn't mind being forced to goosestep to the beat of the government drummer.

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 02:48 PM (XUKZU)

20 We're in for a rough ride in this country. Our overlords have become emboldened.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at April 18, 2014 02:48 PM (4bCZC)

21 I no longer recognize vast swaths of my country as America anymore. Nor vast numbers of its inhabitants as "fellow citizens."
Alien nation....

Posted by: backhoe at April 18, 2014 02:48 PM (ULH4o)

22
A poorly informed public is likely to freak out.
Drones are bad,mmmmkay?

Posted by: Max Entropy at April 18, 2014 02:48 PM (cgtTL)

23 Blue Thunder wasn't just a movie.

Posted by: Zombie Roy Scheider at April 18, 2014 02:48 PM (BAS5M)

24 some people need some careers ended and pensions defunded.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 02:48 PM (rDidD)

25 Better question:

Where in the fuck is Morgan Freeman?? Didn't he have some deep moral objection to the Batman technology that could listen in to everyone's phone calls.

Mystic anyone???!!!! And yet the guy running for his life is the fucking traitor.

Have you people really thought about this shit?? Or are so called "conservatives" by and large goosestepping motherfuckers.

Newsflash you "rule of law" types. THERE IS ONE DOMINANT LAW THAT RULES THEM ALL - The US motherfucking Constitution. You violate that, and you cansuck a dick with your 35 USC 4666(i)(I)(AA)(bbb) violations...

Posted by: prescient11 at April 18, 2014 02:49 PM (tVTLU)

26 blue thunder is not even a problem compared to this.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 02:49 PM (rDidD)

27
Well, it turns out that the Left really doesn't hate or distrust The Man, after all.

Indeed, all along, they wanted to be The Man.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 02:49 PM (9lyhM)

28 They have an eye in the sky but do they have sharks with laser beams on their heads?

I bet they do but they don't want to upset us Bible and gun clinging types with that announcement.

bang, bang, shoot, shoot!

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 18, 2014 02:49 PM (BWlrj)

29 California has one huge problem......Californians.

Otherwise it's nigh paradise.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 02:49 PM (8w6pW)

30 BTW, I don't agree with "hiding" what they were doing.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 02:49 PM (T2V/1)

31 The death of a thousand cuts...and the cuts are getting deeper.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 18, 2014 02:49 PM (08Znv)

32 A lot of people do have a problem with the eye in the sky, the Big
Brother, so in order to mitigate any of those kinds of complaints, we
basically kept it pretty hush-hush.





In other words, "Citizens have completely reasonable, Constitutional reasons to oppose Big Brother-style surveillanace. But we didn't want to deal with any of that crap, so we just didn't bother telling anyone."


The lack of self-awareness is wonderful, isn't it? "A lot of people have a problem with the eye in the sky, the Big Brother..." Do you think LASD Sgt. Iketani realizes


A) Where "Big Brother" comes from, and

B) Why using it in that sentence as a clarifying parenthetical more or less proves that peoples' complaints are justified?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:50 PM (4df7R)

33 >> What the hell is going on in this country?

Civil liberties turned out the be the loser of the War on [Drugs, Terror, etc.].

Posted by: Andy at April 18, 2014 02:50 PM (2OaXr)

34
/whisper mode

I'm Soothsayer

§

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 02:50 PM (9lyhM)

35 If you have a complaint to file with your government overlords you rubes can dial:

1-800-FUCK YO

Posted by: prescient11 at April 18, 2014 02:50 PM (tVTLU)

36 12
Mohammed Pedro Whitaker has been identified as the alleged Kansas City
highway shooter and has been charged with 18 felonies from 9 separate
incidents around the city metro region.

... yet another of Barack son's


Posted by: Qari Esmhatulla at April 18, 2014 02:46 PM (e8kgV)


"Mohammed" eh. Obviously one of those Lutheran Teabaggers.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (T2V/1)

37 no longer recognize vast swaths of my country as America anymore. Nor vast numbers of its inhabitants as "fellow citizens."
Alien nation....


Posted by: backhoe at April 18, 2014 02:48 PM (ULH4o)

This!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (R8hU8)

38 we were using the same stuf in iraq and afghanistan! who woul possibly think what is acceptable in a warzone is acceptable here?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (rDidD)

39 "What the hell is going on in this country?"


What's going on is the Police force is rapidly becoming a unionized thug arm of the government. They're the ones violently raiding people's homes for the most minor possession violation

http://tinyurl.com/lbkrgdo


Unfortunately the right is often blind to this because of their desire to be "tough on crime" and therefore lend the police too much trust and power.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (Fd8YL)

40 As Feinstein once said, and I paraphrase, they don't care what the people think, because they know better.

Posted by: wth at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (wAQA5)

41 **whispery game show announcer voice-over**

"The secret re-defined word of the week is...'mitigate'...'mitigate'."

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (MKpBT)

42 It has been said that the moment a revolution either succeeds or fails is the moment that the police are ordered to fire on protesters and either refuse to on the grounds that the protesters are them and vice versa or do it on the grounds that the protesters are some other. I am therefore very concerned about all the stuff that is being done to make the police a thing a part

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (XUKZU)

43 Roughly 25 Muslim drivers dispatched to Cleveland Hopkins International Airport are refusing to drive cabs adorned with advertising for the region’s upcoming Gay Games, citing religious reasons.

Two of the three companies operating at Ohio's largest airport were informed by the drivers — one-third of the airport’s total fleet — last week that they will no longer participate in the airport’s dedicated taxicab program. The companies, Ace and Yellow Taxi Cab, were told by the drivers that their decision was based on religious reasons, airport spokeswoman Jacqueline Mayo told FoxNews.com.

Ann Gynn, a spokeswoman for the Gay Games, said she believes the protest is an “isolated” case and not indicative of the beliefs held by most residents in Cleveland and Akron, where the Gay Games will be held on Aug. 9-16.

It is still undetermined as to whether they would photograph or make cakes for the games.

Posted by: King Nebuchadnezzar at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (e8kgV)

44 Ever notice that only certain people have standing to sue in our society? An atheist group can sue every local and federal agency if anyone so much as mentions a non-secular supreme being (God not Stalin) while conducting official business but standing to sue because the government has you under a microscope 24/7, ignores the Bill of Rights, not so much.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 18, 2014 02:52 PM (Bvjwy)

45 >> Can someone clue me as to the method of searching all AoSHQ threads?

If you're looking for a comment, key your search term into Bing or whatever and add "site:minx.cc" (without the quotes) in the search box.

Posted by: Andy at April 18, 2014 02:52 PM (2OaXr)

46 Tying my laces, limbering up.

Posted by: Ben Richards at April 18, 2014 02:52 PM (BAS5M)

47 >34


/whisper mode



I'm Soothsayer



§

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 02:50 PM (9lyhM)<

How YOU doin?

Posted by: Barrel 'O Horny Monkeys at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (sjdRT)

48 Soothsayer - In case you never saw it, though I believe I recall linking to it previously: http://tinyurl.com/mnjghna

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (aDwsi)

49 >>>>What the hell is going on in this country?<<<<<<<

Fascism.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (BrAHD)

50 OK, here is the rough outline of my conspiracy theory:

1) The government (both parties) knows that they cannot/ will not balance the budget.
2) At some point- very suddenly- no one in the world will buy US Treasuries. We will have 'run out of other people's money.'
3) There will be massive civil unrest as all Fed + State budgets are FORCED to balance... hence the surveillance state.
4) By having control of the health-care system, they can keep the productive people alive and deny care to the old and the sick... and the unpopular.

I think I could continue in this line all day.

Posted by: xxx at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (8LXiP)

51 What the hell is going on in this country?


Progressives !



Democrats! Name and shame them.

Someone's peeking in your window. Who is?

Democrats!

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (QupBk)

52 >>As Feinstein once said, and I paraphrase, they don't care what the people think, because they know better.

Well, as long as they aren't watching her it's OK.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (IdOTf)

53 Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 02:47 PM (T2V/1)

Yeah great.

Except in my area they want to fly it over houses to watch me in my yard.

They've said as much.

My yard is not a "public space."

The Mosaic theory of 4A may not be great, but I think it's important to have something like it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (HDwDg)

54 Dork in squeakhole site:minx.cc

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (8w6pW)

55 Panopticon is inevitable.
Tech gets cheaper every year (sensors, storage, compute power)
Tech gets better every years (better AI to spot crime in progress).

Solutions are now turn-key. Big business.
BRSLabs is one company.

Every time there is a major crime that scares the public, demands to install the tech will surge.

Big cities are leading the way -- Boston, NYC, LA.
Also college and corporate campuses.

Tech will migrate to mid-sized and small cities. Some will hold out. Most won't.

Not saying I approve, but most of the societal, technological, and economic trends point to an ever growing Panopticon.

Cities can't hire more cops cause pensions and labor costs.

Panopticon doesn't get overtime or a pension.
Panopticon gets cheaper and better every year, people don't.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (ZPrif)

56
Civil liberties turned out the be the loser of the War on [Drugs, Terror, etc.].

This. And we can't just blame liberals. Even his Supreme Awesomeness Scalia loses his shit when it's about drugs and says "fuck rights, drugs are bad".

The lost war on drugs is what funds the Mexican cartels who are subverting the government of a very large and restive country on our border. The never ending War on Terror has made us all suspects every time we want to travel or attend a sporting event.

Ben Franklin should have come up with something pithy about this.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (JtwS4)

57 What's going on?


Matt Damon, Keith Olberman, and Al Sharpton are running the country


but all we can do, according to Some, is use ridicule and shame.



Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( your grandfather's Dave Clark Five fan ) at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (JyjXt)

58 "Really good question.
I knew Obama would shift things but I couldn't have seen how quickly things would change. This LA thing is not even that surprising after NSA, TSA, and all of the federal agencies (including Dept. of Ed.) creating and using their own SWAT teams to harass citizens."

These things were happening long before Obama, and are part of the mission creep of various government agencies. No single president caused it; it's just the gradual growth and corruption of the government. Look at the Wisconsin department of natural resources conducting an armed raid on an animal shelter to confiscate a baby pet deer and euthanize it. Look at the cops who beat to death Kelly Thomas in California without provocation.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (Fd8YL)

59 Don't worry they just want to make sure you're not engaging in any hate-thoughts.

(link in sig)

Posted by: Lauren at April 18, 2014 02:55 PM (hFL/3)

60 Like it or not, the Internet has made the human World - one World. Now, we fight to see which political system(s) will win to govern the Human World.

It's going to be a helluva struggle - but my money is on Freedom. Not without lots of weeping and wailing though.

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at April 18, 2014 02:55 PM (ME3z1)

61 Power Corrupts, Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 02:55 PM (nzKvP)

62 fund is gonna have a conniption.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 02:55 PM (rDidD)

63 Mike,

Search (control F search, not bing) the main page for "April 2014" or just scroll down about 1/3 of the way.

Click on April to see the list of post titles.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 18, 2014 02:56 PM (SUKHu)

64 This is just bringing some real-time aspects into it.

For the big privacy invasion, sit down with the IRS every year and tell them exactly what it is you do for a living, how much you make doing it, who you gave money to and a hundred more questions that the government has no right asking free citizens.

And you better answer every question.

Then, even if you do, the government can declare you to be a criminal and demand you prove your innocence while taking everything you own.

Let them peek in the window all they like, until we get this little injustice straightened out.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 02:56 PM (u2a4R)

65
That tech is an example of something that

A. I think is ok

and

B. we should know about so that people that DON'T think it's ok have a voice.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 18, 2014 02:56 PM (h53OH)

66
Interesting, Mike Hammer, but what's the context here?

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 02:56 PM (9lyhM)

67 xxx --- I don't think it a conspiracy exactly. It's just what's happening.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 02:56 PM (8w6pW)

68 The Bundy ranch is the start of something that has been brewing a long time now.

Gay fascists, pissing on nuns, forced abortificents.

Yeah, there is a whirlwind coming...

Posted by: prescient11 at April 18, 2014 02:57 PM (tVTLU)

69 What the hell is going on in this country?

>>We're now part bureautocracy. We are now ruled by our bureaucratic overlords whose primary goals is keeping their job and advancing up the government ladder. Serving the people is distant second and is only done if it doesn't get in the way of goal #1.

Posted by: taylork at April 18, 2014 02:57 PM (9bPUR)

70 "Democrats! Name and shame them.

Someone's peeking in your window. Who is?

Democrats!"



There's plenty of blame to go around. Were the TSA completely innocent and professional pre-Obama, during the Bush years? I seriously doubt it.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 02:57 PM (Fd8YL)

71 and all You People need to just chill: Corporations are bad, government is good, health care is free now, and women are empowered.


Earlier today I noticed all the supermarket checkers were dudes; mine had an English accent ( Home Counties, I think )


what's up with that?????????????????????????

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( your grandfather's Dave Clark Five fan ) at April 18, 2014 02:57 PM (JyjXt)

72 50 2) At some point- very suddenly- no one in the world will buy US Treasuries. We will have 'run out of other people's money.'

3) There will be massive civil unrest as all Fed + State budgets are FORCED to balance... hence the surveillance state.

4) By having control of the health-care system, they can keep the
productive people alive and deny care to the old and the sick... and the
unpopular.



I think I could continue in this line all day.

Posted by: xxx at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (8LXiP)


I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that happened a long time ago after Oshitforbrains took office. The treasury "prints money" and the fed buys it. It is called "monetizing the debt". Argentina is the last country to try it. They collapsed.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 02:57 PM (T2V/1)

73 you spaz's don't we want to be watched as we hang out laundry, i mean what are they going to catch us at. if you aren't doing anything Wrong why be skeered?

ok, well now that we know irs, atf, dhs, sheriff's, dept of DOJ etc come after you if you have opinions they don't like.

so what!
why should you have opinions or be frustrated with govt watching you?

Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 02:57 PM (nqBYe)

74 Unfortunately the right is often blind to this because of their desire to be "tough on crime" and therefore lend the police too much trust and power.

Eh, I wouldn't say it's an issue of being tough on crime but, as with all things, the right is reactive. Liberals can be both entirely dismissive of the need for police at all and yet use them as a client group as well as a political shield.

Posted by: Michael at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (T0NGe)

75 Until we decide to put this kind of crap back in its box...firmly...we'll be in the HOV lanes of the Orwell Expressway.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (659DL)

76 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (ZPrif

Perhaps.

But the real idea behind the panopticon was that you were so afraid you were being watched at any given moment (even if you weren't) that you basically policed yourself.

This is the scary shit though, because in the Panopticon it was criminals and the self-policing was against actual bad behavior.
In this society it's average joes and the "behavior" is whatever the elites have deemed to dislike at any give time.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (HDwDg)

77 Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (Fd8YL)

Sure, but under Obama this stuff has been fast-tracked by him and left uninvestigated by the MSM and so-called opposition party. Makes a difference.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (IdOTf)

78 well i guess i now have to quit wearing sweat pants when i go shopping. i wouldn't want them to think badly of me. Like maybe I don't care!

Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (nqBYe)

79 I can't make up my mind about this technology until they can tell us whether it will result in access to real-time video of Kate Upton sunbathing nude in her back yard.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (SY2Kh)

80 "site:minx.cc" (without the quotes) in the search box.

Posted by: Andy


How do you get good results searching for hashs with embedded +s?

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 02:59 PM (DL2i+)

81 Quite honestly, The Other Side has won. Our President and most of his supporters are on The Other Side. Also on The Other Side are the enemies of the United States we all grew up in. Explains it all.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 18, 2014 02:59 PM (ndlFj)

82 53 Except in my area they want to fly it over houses to watch me in my yard.



They've said as much.



My yard is not a "public space."



The Mosaic theory of 4A may not be great, but I think it's important to have something like it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 18, 2014 02:53 PM (HDwDg)


They have been flying police helicopters over people's yards and monitoring them for decades.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 02:59 PM (T2V/1)

83 The treasury "prints money" and the fed buys it. It is called "monetizing the debt". Argentina is the last country to try it. They collapsed.

Ah, if only we had our own Evita...

...oh, wait, we'll get a 69-year-old version. Joy.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 02:59 PM (T0NGe)

84
To be honest, I was expecting a lewd pic of a chimp..

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 02:59 PM (9lyhM)

85 Muslim Man Arrested For Random Shooting Attacks On Highway Motorists Near Kansas City…



His name is Mohammed Pedro Whitaker, so it’s safe to assume he’s a Muslim convert.


Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 02:59 PM (nzKvP)

86 anyway, i'm certain this is all for We the people.

Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (nqBYe)

87 >78
well i guess i now have to quit wearing sweat pants when i go shopping. i
wouldn't want them to think badly of me. Like maybe I don't care!

Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (nqBYe)<

I think the Horde approved shopping style for 'ettes involves yoga pants.

Posted by: Barrel 'O Horny Monkeys at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (sjdRT)

88 Argentina is the last country to try it. They collapsed.

To be fair, Argentina has done it about a dozen times.

Maybe they'll get it right next time.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (659DL)

89 2) At some point- very suddenly- no one in the world will buy US Treasuries. We will have 'run out of other people's money.'


This may have already happened but we don't know for sure because the Federal Reserve has been (indirectly) buying the short term debt at the Treasury auctions.

Posted by: Gordon Gekko at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (e8kgV)

90 a muslim convert to german?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (rDidD)

91 well i guess i now have to quit wearing sweat pants when i go shopping. i wouldn't want them to think badly of me. Like maybe I don't care!


Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (nqBYe)


Switching to yoga pants? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (BAS5M)

92 Dammit! Off Soothsayer taunting sock.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (sjdRT)

93 jwest - "sit down with the IRS every year and tell them exactly what it is you do"


Yes - until this master / slave relationship is no more - our masters will continue to do what masters do - that is - whtaever the hell they want.

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (ME3z1)

94 They will soon be able to capture an entire city the size of San Francisco???

So you have no expectation of privacy whatsoever anymore, basically is what we're saying.

This is some very fucked up shit.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (tVTLU)

95 Mike,

Search (control F search, not bing) the main page for "April 2014" or just scroll down about 1/3 of the way.

Click on April to see the list of post titles.

Posted by: Mama
---------------

Mama - Thanks!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 18, 2014 03:00 PM (aDwsi)

96 You know if the Soviet Union had held out a little longer most of their people problems could have been solved with technology. Its really too bad its America that has become the new Progressive Utopia, but there it is. Hopefully they will announce the weaponization of the Big Eyes so all can comment and vote.

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 18, 2014 03:01 PM (oDCMR)

97 Sure, but under Obama this stuff has been fast-tracked by him and left uninvestigated by the MSM and so-called opposition party. Makes a difference.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 02:58 PM (IdOTf)


If it were a Republican president, they'd blame him for something that happened in a local jurisdiction and resulted from absolutely no change in policy.

They just make up an outrage of the week.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 18, 2014 03:01 PM (T0NGe)

98 For something like 20 years the Los Angeles Police, Fire, and CHP departments were the envy of the nation. Jack Webb, alone, made these honorable professions. CHiPs made LA Highways look tolerable - and even exciting?

Now? Now we see them all for who they are: the worst of the worst. A laughing stock, if it wasn't so serious. To work in public service in Los Angeles is to be held in contempt.

And, unfortunately, it's often for very good reason.

Posted by: RobM1981 at April 18, 2014 03:01 PM (zurJC)

99 Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 02:59 PM (T2V/1

Another case of technology changing the game though.

Helicopters are expensive, and loud, meaning that if one takes up residence over my house, I'll know.

The police chief in the city here is talking about buying a few battery operated drones and having them crisscross the city all night long.

Silent and fairly inexpensive to do (relative to the cost of keeping a helicopter in flight all night.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 18, 2014 03:01 PM (HDwDg)

100 How do you get good results searching for hashs with embedded +s?

Put the search term (hash) in quotes.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 03:02 PM (SY2Kh)

101 "Hey cabdriver, uhh Saleem is it? Take me and this penis-shaped cake over to the Gay Games venue, and step on it. If I don't get it there by 3:00 pm they are going to sue me into bankruptcy."

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 03:02 PM (MKpBT)

102
I think the Horde approved shopping style for 'ettes involves yoga pants.

We're working on the upgrade from "approved" to "mandatory".

Posted by: AoSHQ Style Guide Compliance Division at April 18, 2014 03:02 PM (JtwS4)

103 well i hope the eye in the sky catches those dastardly 8-9 year olds rejecting authority when asked to come in immediately after the street lamps go on and stop playing hide and seek, We Just Know hide and seek is a gateway to something more sinister.

future terrorists that they are.

Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 03:02 PM (nqBYe)

104 What the hell is going on in this country?
There is no punishment for acting like Major Hochstetter so why not go full National Socialist?

Posted by: JB1000 at April 18, 2014 03:02 PM (bzVvg)

105 "I no longer recognize vast swaths of my country as America anymore. Nor vast numbers of its inhabitants as 'fellow citizens.'"

Yep. It's all starting to come apart.

The challenge now is to, instead of having things _come_ apart violently and randomly, to instead _take_ things apart nonviolently and carefully.

Let the various irreconcilable factions and regions and peoples of the failed American superstate peacefully separate their affairs from each other.

The Czechs and the Slovaks managed the famous "Velvet Divorce". That's the model to be emulated.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 03:02 PM (noWW6)

106
All that noise about the Patriot Act back in 2002-2006...

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 03:02 PM (9lyhM)

107 Now take Google Earth.... add in Military grade cameras and lenses... and a downlink to a ground station where the data is stored...

And you have the NSA being able to track anyone... anywhere... once they get a lock on you....

Even on private property...

All the pieces exist... all you need is the storage facility.... like the one being built in Utah.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 03:03 PM (84gbM)

108 "well i hope the eye in the sky catches those dastardly 8-9 year olds rejecting authority when asked to come in immediately after the street lamps go on and stop playing hide and seek"

That's cute. Now parents are arrested for letting their kids play in the front yard...with the parent outside watching them.

Posted by: Lauren at April 18, 2014 03:03 PM (hFL/3)

109 >>All that noise about the Patriot Act back in 2002-2006...

Completely different - Bush wanted to see our library book lists. That's a bridge too far, I say!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 03:04 PM (IdOTf)

110 Bbbbbbut bbbbbut bbbbbut it's FOR THE CHILDREN!!

Won't someone please think of the children?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 18, 2014 03:04 PM (0LHZx)

111 It's important for the IRS to have access to license plate reader data nationwide so they can know where their money is being spent at all times.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 18, 2014 03:04 PM (DmnSa)

112 startes at the top.

the jugassed moron is so lawless and thuggish that it gives license to these chumps to do this.

you think repubs will put a stop to it? they are cows.

shoot em down.

this country will not end well. i can see barry smiling and taking a selfie now.

Posted by: rev dr der commisar miller at April 18, 2014 03:04 PM (wu8jU)

113 >> How do you get good results searching for hashs with embedded +s?

Enclose the entire hash in ""s

Posted by: Andy at April 18, 2014 03:04 PM (2OaXr)

114 I'm using Panopticon as shorthand for cameras everywhere, 24/7 surveillance of all public areas.

Best defense, since it is inevitable, is more cameras. Watch the watchers.

Only way to protect yourself will be to record everything in your life and upload it to a secure site.

Good thing is there will be much less violent crime in our Panopticon future.

But the bad thing is it will just be harder to do anything against the rules. Even little things, like compliance with recycling laws. I don't recycle on principle just to fuck with the eco-nazis.

In the future the eco-nazis will have 24/7 surveillance and automated AI watching all garbage and waste streams and it will be much, much harder to cheat.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 18, 2014 03:04 PM (ZPrif)

115 We just had an ex cop who went and torched property of a blogger who ran some exposes on him - got into a fight with the guy, fell down, hit his and died.

As for this story, privacy is pretty much dead, but yes, this is still creepy.

Posted by: Lea at April 18, 2014 03:05 PM (lIU4e)

116 there are two Californias--one not at all like the other


driving from Fresno to Menlo Park takes 2 - 3 hours, but it's a trip from one universe to another.


Read my articles

Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson ( not your grandfather's VDH ) at April 18, 2014 03:05 PM (JyjXt)

117 What the hell is going on in this country?

Well, for starters, it's not really a "country" anymore, so much as a farm. A plantation, if you will.

And we're the livestock. Free-range, farmed livestock.

Sort of like an open-air prison.

Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 03:05 PM (i5GO4)

118
At least for states and municipalites there is still very small hope to end these things.... don't vote for tax raisers or tax bonds. Put their funding at bare subsistence.

Problem is that alot of the pro-privacy people keep voting for the pro-taxers because pro-abortion and social justice.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 03:05 PM (BrAHD)

119 >>Won't someone please think of the children?

Done!

Posted by: Bryan Singer, Harry Reid at April 18, 2014 03:06 PM (IdOTf)

120 Haven't read the linked article yet, but nothing surprises me about the LA County Sheriffs. Sheriff Lee Baca went insane a few terms ago, and everybody seemed to know but the voters.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 18, 2014 03:06 PM (IAe6t)

121 Keep in mind that philosophers and politicians rejected the idea of a prison Panopticon because they thought it would be immoral to watch CONDEMNED CRIMINALS 24/7.

Yet they now impose this on "free" citizens, for the children of course.

"Rule of law" people make me sick.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 18, 2014 03:06 PM (tVTLU)

122 Lauren, i know people say this often these days, but,
I really don't recognise this country anylonger.

Posted by: willow at April 18, 2014 03:06 PM (nqBYe)

123 You're all domestic terrorists on federal property that's on loan to you. We're just keeping an eye on what's ours.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 18, 2014 03:06 PM (pgQxn)

124 Between my iPhone, my easy pass, and my computer the Gov knows where I am almost 24 hours a day.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 03:07 PM (nzKvP)

125 "What the hell is going on in this country?"

Amnesty! And I'm 3-sheets to the wind and hellbent on doing it!

Posted by: John "tanning salon" Boehner at April 18, 2014 03:07 PM (0f5D+)

126 The only case I have ever found where the court ruled against someone spying on the backyard of a person involved an actress who had a 9 or 10 foot fence built around her house. A paparazzi constructed a "tower" using commercial scaffolding materials and used it to take photos of her sunbathing topless.


She sued the shit out of him and won. He used "unreasonable" methods to access her yard. Note, that he was not a cop.

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:07 PM (T2V/1)

127 I read about this years ago. So, it couldn't have been that big of a secret.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 03:07 PM (8c12T)

128 "Eh, I wouldn't say it's an issue of being tough on crime but, as with all things, the right is reactive. Liberals can be both entirely dismissive of the need for police at all and yet use them as a client group as well as a political shield."


In the small thoroughly Republican Texas town that I'm from, we have a huge over-funded and genuinely corrupt police force. We got to that point because in any conflict between citizen and policeman, the local Reps think a cop can do no evil, even if the SWAT members beat their wives, or random police officers sell/buy meth from druggies on the side. This is a real phenomenon.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 03:07 PM (Fd8YL)

129 Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (Fd8YL)


the creation of DHS put this on steroids however...

Thanks Bush and Repubs!

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 03:07 PM (84gbM)

130 Even more scarier is why would the government want to watch me masturbate when they could do a brother a solid and send over one of those government whores? Would it kill them to give a guy a handy now and again?

Posted by: Fritz at April 18, 2014 03:08 PM (UzPAd)

131 is elizabeth obagy applying for positions with either side in the ukraine?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:08 PM (rDidD)

132 From almost the day O was inaugurated, he and his comrades have thrown so much crap at us, so fast and unrelentingly, that it is hard to focus on any one transgression too much or for very long. By design, no doubt and unfortunately, this strategy works.

But above all, the lapdog media is the biggest problem. Fix that and a lot of the other problems fall like dominos.

Posted by: Mayday at April 18, 2014 03:08 PM (eHc+1)

133 The Czechs and the Slovaks managed the famous "Velvet Divorce". That's the model to be emulated.



Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 03:02 PM (noWW6)


No, not possible here and now: Where do you draw the border line? Czechs and Slovaks have distinct languages and a long-recognized border.

We and our enemies are mixed together==so this will be like the English Civil War rather than our previous one ( or Europe )

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( ...drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's ) at April 18, 2014 03:08 PM (JyjXt)

134 It's a matter of technology going forward, and morality backward.

Posted by: not Buckminster Fuller, but still good with concepts at April 18, 2014 03:08 PM (1/4XQ)

135 >>Lauren, i know people say this often these days, but, I really don't recognise this country any longer.

I'm right there with you guys, er, 'ettes.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 03:08 PM (IdOTf)

136 So long as they're doing this for our own good, it's OK!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 18, 2014 03:09 PM (o3MSL)

137 If there's one thing we actually do need new laws for, it's to curtail the more privacy-abolishing aspects of technology.

Posted by: Mr. Estrada at April 18, 2014 03:09 PM (4oWMT)

138 Hopefully, they aren't flying over my house with infrared thermal imaging drones. Otherwise, they'd see all those little boys I have locked up in my basement.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 18, 2014 03:10 PM (F6KtL)

139 It's for your own good!

Posted by: The Person who says "For Your Own Good" while your dismembered body lays on the cold slab at April 18, 2014 03:10 PM (73P68)

140 126 The only case I have ever found where the court ruled against someone spying on the backyard of a person involved an actress who had a 9 or 10 foot fence built around her house. A paparazzi constructed a "tower" using commercial scaffolding materials and used it to take photos of her sunbathing topless.


She sued the shit out of him and won. He used "unreasonable" methods to access her yard. Note, that he was not a cop.
Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:07 PM (T2V/1)


Howard and Raj did something similar with a satellite. Did anyone sue them?

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 03:10 PM (8c12T)

141 America isn't a farm; it's a mall


Ohhh! Look at the diversity of stores! All this sh*t to buy! Totes cool!!!

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( ...drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's ) at April 18, 2014 03:10 PM (JyjXt)

142
the creation of DHS put this on steroids however...

Thanks Bush and Repubs!


Seriously. This is not a left/right issue. And it's not even a cool Constitutional thing about the limits on the federal government's powers. It's creeping statism everywhere at all levels, it's militarized police and now militarized bureaucracies.

I have no idea how to roll it back, but I'm agin it.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 03:10 PM (JtwS4)

143 130 Would it kill them to give a guy a handy now and again?

It's okay, I know where you live - I'll be right over. Hold tight!

Posted by: Bawny Fwank at April 18, 2014 03:11 PM (pgQxn)

144 In the near future city surveillance AI will be able to ID every vehicle and person in the city in real time.

We can already do it for most vehicles if we wanted. License plate readers, EZPass transponders, and just object recognition.

Facial recognition gets better every year.

City surveillance tech advanced a lot in the Iraq War. We'd set up sat systems to monitor all of Baghdad.

That tech is now being brought back to the US and used to monitor American cities.

It's the recording and object recognition. Crime happens. Trace back to see where the people and cars came from, trace them back to the source.

Tech gets better every year.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 18, 2014 03:12 PM (ZPrif)

145 The nice thing about tortoise wrangling is that you can do it even if your horse is really slow.

Posted by: S. Muldoon (International Tortoise Wranglers local #555 at April 18, 2014 03:12 PM (MKpBT)

146 "For something like 20 years the Los Angeles Police, Fire, and CHP departments were the envy of the nation."

Note that LAPD still haven't released any information about the officers who were responsible for the mistaken-identity shooting during the Chris Dorner manhunt.

That was the shooting where the LAPD had been told Dorner might be in the area, and the patrol officers had been given a detailed description of Dorner and his truck.

The officers then proceeded to turn a truck and its occupants into a colander.

The occupants were both the wrong ethnicity, wrong gender and wrong age to be Dorner. The truck was the wrong make, wrong model, wrong year and wrong color to be Dorner's truck. (It was, however, a truck. That similarity has to be admitted.)

So, the officers responsible for this are still on the force. LAPD and the police oversight board are being very very cagey about releasing even the tiniest nub of information about those officers.

This may reasonably be inferred to be for the same reason that the police deliberately withhold identifying information about certain criminal suspects. Because of identity politics. It wouldn't do for LAPD's obsessive "diversity" push to be seen to have put dangerously incompetent officers on the beat.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 03:12 PM (noWW6)

147 Failifornia leads the way to our Glorious Green Future!

#Foreward!

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 18, 2014 03:13 PM (q+fqH)

148 Between my iPhone, my easy pass, and my computer the Gov knows where I am almost 24 hours a day.

No, it's not "almost".

Posted by: Mr. Toilet GoPro at April 18, 2014 03:13 PM (pgQxn)

149 Well, the problem is the Left controls the cities -- which means they control the Panopticon. That's a huge advantage.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 18, 2014 03:13 PM (ZPrif)

150 WE are All 'persons of interest'...

Posted by: And you thought it was just a show... at April 18, 2014 03:13 PM (84gbM)

151 If the democrats ever figure out a way to put a sensor on our dicks they will tax us every time we have sex and 1/2 for having sex alone I guess?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2014 03:13 PM (nzKvP)

152 "What the hell is going on in this country?"

Amnesty! And I'm 3-sheets to the wind and hellbent on doing it!


Posted by: John "tanning salon" Boehner at April 18, 2014 03:07 PM (0f5D+)

Yeah, Boner John is proving the Donks right by showing that he and his GOPe pals are willing to sell the country down the river to make sure his big business buddies can maximize profits.

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 03:13 PM (XUKZU)

153 Time to re-watch Gattaca and Minority Report.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 03:13 PM (IdOTf)

154 LASD has a huge corruption problem starting at the top with Lee Baca. A large number of the department belongs in the same jails they are in charge of

Baca is a Dem though, so nothing to see here and he's "concerned about the public's perception of the LA Sheriff's Office"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 03:13 PM (aTXUx)

155 Enclose the entire hash in ""s

Thanks, turns out the hash I was looking for hadn't been crawled yet.

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 03:14 PM (DL2i+)

156 Didn't Google or FB announce recently they were going to do something where they could track individuals through out a city?

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 03:14 PM (8c12T)

157 What the hell is going on in this country?
===========
They're losing their grip and finding some of us will indeed not comply.

Blood's coming . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 18, 2014 03:15 PM (VjL9S)

158 "Seriously. This is not a left/right issue. And it's not even a cool Constitutional thing about the limits on the federal government's powers. It's creeping statism everywhere at all levels, it's militarized police and now militarized bureaucracies.

I have no idea how to roll it back, but I'm agin it."



I genuinely wish more people on the right would realize this.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 03:15 PM (Fd8YL)

159 Even on private property...

------

It's cute that you think that is a thing.

Posted by: Hothead at April 18, 2014 03:15 PM (+V/wy)

160 I hear music, but nobody's dancing.

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 03:15 PM (QupBk)

161 "The truck was the wrong make, wrong model, wrong year and wrong color to be Dorner's truck. (It was, however, a truck. That similarity has to be admitted.)"

See, now if that had been a car, you would have had a point.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 03:15 PM (u2a4R)

162 Bush did not create thug cops. We have had thug cops ever since we have had cops. We just started getting a shit-ton more of them when we militarized cops for the war on drugs,.


I grew up in a small Southern town with some of the crookedest cops on the face of the earth. There is a scene in the movie Crossroads where a local sheriff runs Ralph Macio, Joe Seneca, and Jami Gerts out of "farmer Brown's barn where they were spending the night. Reminds me a lot of those days.













Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:16 PM (T2V/1)

163
btw, aren't we past due for another "story" in the "news" about how obama just stopped yet another terror plot?

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 03:16 PM (9lyhM)

164 Yeah, Boner John is proving the Donks right by showing that he and his GOPe pals are willing to sell the country down the river to make sure his big business buddies can maximize profits.

And then he still gets scolded by Osqueezme 3 times a week.

What a bunch of pathetic spineless whimpering losers.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 18, 2014 03:16 PM (pgQxn)

165 If it hasn't already been mentioned (I just got here and haven't yet read all the comments) Boston has a similar system,

http://bit.ly/Ql48dA

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 03:16 PM (IS2o0)

166 What the hell is going on in this country?

We're fighting for freedom around the world, don't you know that?

Generalissimo Barry will send troops to die for "freedom and democracy" in Ukraine, Libya, Syria...

I wonder when the United States of Kardassian will fight for it

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 03:16 PM (aTXUx)

167 Maybe we can use this eye in the sky on the border and keep it secret from the people who are loved and like to jump fences and other stuff.

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 03:17 PM (m2CN7)

168 WE are All 'persons of interest'...




Nah. I'm pretty dull in all honesty.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:17 PM (d0Dmj)

169 Solution: never leave the house.

Almost there.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 18, 2014 03:17 PM (BAS5M)

170 When it happens, it will happen quickly. I think lots of people are like me, happy to join an angry mob but reluctant to lead on.

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (QupBk)

171 163 btw, aren't we past due for another "story" in the "news" about how obama just stopped yet another terror plot?

As soon as they figure out how they're going to "off" a bunch of ranchers without too much backlash, you'll see it.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (pgQxn)

172 >Nah. I'm pretty dull in all honesty.


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:17 PM (d0Dmj)<

Not drinking enough?

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (sjdRT)

173

Chelsea's pregnant!!

Posted by: CNN\NBC\ABC\CBS\PBS\NYT\WashPost at April 18, 2014 02:45 PM (IdOTf)

We had this the night her husband and his best friend porked her!

Posted by: NSA at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (nQjHM)

174 "No, not possible here and now: Where do you draw the border line?
Czechs and Slovaks have distinct languages and a long-recognized border."

Er, increasingly, the fractured and fractious tribes inhabiting "America" have distinct languages. And reasonably clear internal boundaries along which separations could be engineered.

Note the "Six Californias" proposal. Several of those groupings make geographic and political sense. It's just that breaking up CA while trying to still fit it into the failed bankrupted federal system would be awkward.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (noWW6)

175 btw, aren't we past due for another "story" in the "news" about how obama just stopped yet another terror plot?


#twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (d0Dmj)

176 Not drinking enough?


Just at home. With the blinds shut.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (d0Dmj)

177 What is the amount of crime they use to justify this? They worry it looks like Big Brother because it is Big Brother. My God, If it just saves one chillin.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at April 18, 2014 03:19 PM (jsa6I)

178 Not drinking enough?


Just at home. With the blinds shut.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (d0Dmj) Smite posts from (d0Dmj)


*ahem*

Posted by: the sexy toaster at April 18, 2014 03:19 PM (QupBk)

179 "What the hell is going on in this country? "

Maybe Patriot Act. Maybe those who have opposed it and its reauthorizations had a point. Maybe more than anything in it, it's the overall thrust of it. It meant government was going to get a lot more snoopy and a lot more secretive. And that was OK because terrorism. And this attitude trickled down to local law enforcement. And that's not even getting to mission creep (Department of Homeland Security now chases after absconded child molesters).

Posted by: random thought generator at April 18, 2014 03:19 PM (uYUVu)

180 175 btw, aren't we past due for another "story" in the "news" about how obama just stopped yet another terror plot?


#twoweeks
Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (d0Dmj

It's Good Friday. Slow news cycle. Can't bravely stop the terrorist menace when nobody is paying attention.

No, we'll get a hush hush release of what else TFG has done this week to F us.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 03:20 PM (fWAjv)

181 >Just at home. With the blinds shut.


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (d0Dmj)<

Heh. After work I'm going to my favorite bar and giving my favorite bartender Easter candy. Gotta keep the right people happy.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 18, 2014 03:20 PM (sjdRT)

182 FYI, I wish they had this thing over Baghdad during the Iraq war. Every time an IED went off all they'd have to do was watch the tape to see where the insurgents fled to.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 18, 2014 03:20 PM (UypUQ)

183 I am the Eye in the Sky, looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules, dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind

Posted by: The Lee Baca Project at April 18, 2014 03:21 PM (aTXUx)

184 I'd be willing to bett all of the surveillance technology installed all over America was paid for by Homeland Security. Thanks, W.

Posted by: MTF at April 18, 2014 03:21 PM (Zx2Zj)

185 The thought occurred to me during one of my frequent visits to Chicago during the 1980s. I would be out walking my Border Collie, without a leash since he was a working stock dog, and alive myself like a point man in the Rung Sat since I was a [content redacted] in an environment very [content redacted].
If push came to shove, they'd need more than helicopters to control Chicago. It would take months and months to pacify, and they then would be sitting ducks for raids from outside the zone.

Posted by: not Buckminster Fuller, but still good with concepts at April 18, 2014 03:21 PM (1/4XQ)

186 No, not possible here and now: Where do you draw the border line? Czechs and Slovaks have distinct languages and a long-recognized border.We and our enemies are mixed together==so this will be like the English Civil War rather than our previous one ( or Europe )
Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( ...drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's ) at April 18, 2014 03:08 PM (JyjXt)

You draw the border and provide a couple of years for relocation to your chosen new country if necessary. If I lived in a part that was to become the Progressive States of America, I would be fired up to pack up and move .

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 03:21 PM (m2CN7)

187
I'll soon be recruiting for my secret cabal --The Sons of the Righteous and Harmonious Fists.

But first I need to win the Powerballs.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 03:22 PM (9lyhM)

188 Heh. After work I'm going to my favorite bar and giving my favorite bartender Easter candy. Gotta keep the right people happy.



Actually going to the in laws tomorrow, spending the night, going to church Sunday, then to Choctaw Casino for the buffet slots.
Then to hell.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:22 PM (d0Dmj)

189
I still have The Chew Baca Project's first album..

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 03:23 PM (9lyhM)

190 As you all know I joined the Bishop to wash the feet of the undocumented this morning..... This afternoon I will be joining St. Kermit Gosnell to perform some gratis abortions. We won't be taking pictures though.

Posted by: Nanny Pelousy at April 18, 2014 03:23 PM (32Ze2)

191 Sorry torquewrench, but Abdullah's right, there is no way to split the US along a single border. Both populations are intertwined. Even "Blue States" are about a third conservative, and vice versa. Also, do you really think it will be peaceful, because that would be naive.

Furthermore, why should we give up land to the leftists? Why should they half of the country? In the future, if our splinter state also succumbs to the siren call of left wing idiocy, will we just split in half again? Secession is a non-starter, it is only proposed when a given faction does not think it can truly "win" against the other and just wants to make the cost of victory so high the other side decides it's not worth it. It is a stupid idea that ignores asking how things got so bad to begin with.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 18, 2014 03:23 PM (qJPSp)

192 Lucky for us the Rove Party will make sure they only use it on the complainers. So shut up.

Posted by: Beto at April 18, 2014 03:24 PM (/vO0r)

193 >Actually going to the in laws tomorrow, spending the
night, going to church Sunday, then to Choctaw Casino for the buffet
slots.
Then to hell.


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:22 PM (d0Dmj)<


That sounds like a James McMurtry song.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 18, 2014 03:24 PM (sjdRT)

194 FYI, I wish they had this thing over Baghdad during
the Iraq war. Every time an IED went off all they'd have to do was watch
the tape to see where the insurgents fled to.


Posted by: Serious Cat at April 18, 2014 03:20 PM (UypUQ)
^^^They did! Read the story, you dummy.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 18, 2014 03:24 PM (UypUQ)

195 This afternoon I will be joining St. Kermit Gosnell to perform some gratis abortions. We won't be taking pictures though.

Posted by: Nanny Pelousy



Make sure you stop by and see Chelsea.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:24 PM (d0Dmj)

196 What's going on?

We elected Obama, and then reelected him. We deserve whatever we get.

Posted by: Adjoran at April 18, 2014 03:24 PM (QIQ6j)

197 Ace: I think it really is about the technology and rather than some brand new failure of government officials to safeguard liberty.

That is, there have always been government and law enforcement types who would do this sort of thing but haven't been able to because the technology didn't allow it. Now it does, and we see their true colors.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at April 18, 2014 03:24 PM (F3nFt)

198 Note the "Six Californias" proposal. Several of those groupings make geographic and political sense. It's just that breaking up CA while trying to still fit it into the failed bankrupted federal system would be awkward.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (noWW6

The Six California purpose was strictly proposed to set up competitive governments. The originator expected either the governments would straightened up and be for the people or the people would relocate to the government that best did.

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 03:24 PM (m2CN7)

199 What the hell is going on in this country?

Oligarchy. See new Princeton study.

Doom.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 03:25 PM (thLL8)

200 If one hopes for peaceful change, the State Media must first be destroyed.

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 03:26 PM (QupBk)

201 Oligarchy. See new Princeton study.

****

+1000

Posted by: Beto at April 18, 2014 03:26 PM (/vO0r)

202
Note the "Six Californias" proposal. Several of
those groupings make geographic and political sense. It's just that
breaking up CA while trying to still fit it into the failed bankrupted
federal system would be awkward.



Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 03:18 PM (noWW6)

Er, I've seen the proposed lines for the 'six' and they're a joke ( but not funny ). Try drawing lines for some New American Entities. Just try...


Czechs and Slovaks were only in the same country for two-three generations, with half of that under Soviet military occupation. They were RE-separated, after centuries of being ruled by Austrians and Hungarians



Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( ...drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's ) at April 18, 2014 03:26 PM (JyjXt)

203 The wrong sort of people have power now.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 03:27 PM (uhAkr)

204 Polynikes, they tried that in India when Pakistan split away. With a population about equal to our own their were one million deaths. That is nearly double the total US casualties during WWII. Americans are also better armed than the people of India. What you are recommending would result in a blood bath not that different from a full on Civil War. At least in a civil war, the men doing the fighting are taught and held to the Laws and Customs of War. Sometimes particular groups stray from what is expected of them, but there is some basic set of rules and permitted behavior in an out and out war. Relocation Anarchy is just killing, raping, and suffering.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 18, 2014 03:27 PM (qJPSp)

205 Eye in The Sky - Alan Parsons Project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBQalkIeE7s

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 03:27 PM (aTXUx)

206 Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 18, 2014 03:23 PM (qJPSp)

Maybe the Colonies shouldn't have split from the Crown.

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 03:28 PM (m2CN7)

207 Restore The Articles of Confederation!

Posted by: toby928© at April 18, 2014 03:28 PM (QupBk)

208 We haven't perfected human nature, but so far we've avoided thermonuclear Hell.

Posted by: not Buckminster Fuller, but still good with concepts at April 18, 2014 03:28 PM (1/4XQ)

209 And.... for the State...

On July 1 all foreign banks must have an Agreement in place with the US IRS, to identify US Account holders, and how much is in their accounts...

or US banks will hold back 30% of transfers to them.

So you cannot hide your money....even overseas...

How many banks have signed these agreements is not public knowledge...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 03:28 PM (84gbM)

210 "We have had thug cops ever since we have had cops. We just started
getting a shit-ton more of them when we militarized cops for the war on
drugs"

America has been fighting the War On Certain Drugs since FDR.

Fairly regularly ever since, politicians have amped it up with fanfare.

One of those occasions was during the Reagan and Bush the Lesser years (Bush the Lesser, #41, as distinct from his dim son Bush the Lesser Still, #43).

I remember all of the grrrrr, arrrr, get-em, take-out-the-trash, hyperaggresive militaristic rhetoric, and frankly a lot of it was what started pushing me hard away from the GOP and towards the Libertarian Party, because I thought a lot of this was poorly thought through. Emotive, not rational.

For instance: at that very same time of the massively renewed push for the "War On Drugs" in the Reagan years, Cap Weinberger over at the Pentagon was consistently arguing for tough new rules about when and how the nation should go to war-war.

For instance, Cap said, war plans should include clearly and specifically defined objectives, and a timetable for those objectives, and if the objectives weren't attained on time, then there needed to be a pre-agreed alternate plan to extricate from the war effort and contain the failure.

So, I said, these are fantastic common sense guidelines. We should be using them in every war situation. (pause) WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE APPLYING THESE SAME RULES TO THE "WAR ON DRUGS" TOO?

Never got a coherent response from anyone I asked in Republican politics. Not once.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 03:28 PM (noWW6)

211 Don't know whether to laugh or cry:

"The WSJ reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties....

President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls...

As Michelle Obama’s garden sat unattended during the shutdown, the fox “tore” through it.


The garden part is funny.
Distracting Barack from his job? WTF.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 03:29 PM (IdOTf)

212 We are just trying to make sure the citizens are using their free stuff wisely.

Posted by: Freebie Monitors of CA at April 18, 2014 03:29 PM (wAQA5)

213 It is creepy, but in defense, one of Government's primary purposes to to secure our freedoms. Acts a crime are inherently threats to people's liberty. So if the creepy Eye in the sky can make carjackings, muggings, home invasions all but impossible to get away with, than that is a big plus on the liberty ledger. The catch, though is when they abuse it and start monitoring people and groups on suspicion of a future crime.

I'm ok with it as long as its limited to backtracking reported crimes, not prevention measures.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 18, 2014 03:29 PM (UypUQ)

214 What's wrong with this country?

Well. Nations gravitate toward ignorance and tyranny.

It takes enough adults in the room to demand everyone get out of the pool to fix it.

Unfortunately, our idiot to adult ratio is >> 1.

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:30 PM (x3YFz)

215 37?

Velvet Ambition?All I can do is look out for me and mine own. That family across the street who was so good to me after my Miss Emily died. The cute cat lady on the Island who is still embroiled in her late husband's shady dealings. Maybe the widow down the street- but she may be a nag.

Posted by: backhoe at April 18, 2014 03:30 PM (ULH4o)

216 Two Californias already exist, but doing that would be........difficult


Coastal counties ( including the Bay Area ) from Sonoma down through San Diego become 'Pacifica' ; the rest of the counties are California


change 'Fresno' to "Hanson"

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( ...drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's ) at April 18, 2014 03:30 PM (JyjXt)

217 We elected Obama, and then reelected him. We deserve whatever we get.

Posted by: Adjoran at April 18, 2014 03:24 PM (QIQ6j)


collective guilt is NOT a Conservative or Libertarian concept...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 03:30 PM (84gbM)

218 @210 I'll take a Letter of Marque for dealing with drug dealers.
Hey, privateers worked in the War of 1812!

Posted by: not Buckminster Fuller, but still good with concepts at April 18, 2014 03:30 PM (1/4XQ)

219
What the hell is going on in this country?
Well, Hillary is going to be a grandma.

Posted by: MSM at April 18, 2014 03:30 PM (wAQA5)

220 one interesting thing is the relationship between this, steyn's piece a couple of days ago about the loss of free speech and the mozilla fellow getting forced out by the gays.



now here we are, all commenting under nicknames? guess we have all been cowed into submission, for now anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:31 PM (rDidD)

221 You tube link to the tech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA

Posted by: Hothead at April 18, 2014 03:31 PM (uUMuz)

222 ...Relocation Anarchy is just killing, raping, and suffering.

Sounds like a pool party at my place.

Posted by: Bryan Singer at April 18, 2014 03:31 PM (pgQxn)

223 People are smart, generally, and not bad, individually.

Put 10 or more of them together and you get nonsense.

Hence "individualism."

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:31 PM (x3YFz)

224 Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 03:29 PM (IdOTf)


See!!! Fox IS distracting the President from his Job!!!

Posted by: John Stweart Fan at April 18, 2014 03:32 PM (84gbM)

225 I wonder is they can find my dick wit dat thing in da sky?

Posted by: Shorty Johnson at April 18, 2014 03:32 PM (xWW96)

226 Six Californias? When I'm done there will be 57.

Posted by: Hussein the Magnificent at April 18, 2014 03:32 PM (wAQA5)

227 “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” - BF

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 18, 2014 03:32 PM (thLL8)

228
Rob Halford is a prophet....

Up here in space
I'm looking down on you
My laser's trace
Everything you do

You think you've private lives
Think nothing of the kind
There is no true escape
I'm watching all the time

I'm made of metal
My circuits gleam
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean

I'm electric, electric spy
I'm protective electric eye

Always in focus
You can't feel my stare
I zoom into you
You don't know I'm there

I take a pride in probing
All your secret moves
My tearless retina
Takes pictures that can prove

I'm made of metal
My circuits gleam
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean

I'm electric, electric spy
I'm protective electric eye

Electric eye
In the sky
They feel the stare
So always there

There's nothing you can do about it
Develop and expose
I feed upon your every thought
And so my power grows

I'm made of metal
My circuits gleam
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean

I'm electric, electric spy
I'm protecting electric eye

I'm electric, electric spy
I'm protecting
Protective, detective
Electric eye

http://tinyurl.com/mp46gaf

Or the flamenco version.....

http://tinyurl.com/m5cat8c

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 18, 2014 03:33 PM (TIIx5)

229 Contrast the L.A. Sheriff with these folks:
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
It won't be long before the New Super Algorithms! will be able to tell you're going to commit a crime before you do. The armed drone will "apprehend" you before you're a danger to others.

Posted by: not Buckminster Fuller, but still good with concepts at April 18, 2014 03:33 PM (1/4XQ)

230 "If you don't want someone to know what you're doing, maybe you shouldn't be doing it" - Google CEO Eric Schmidt

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 03:33 PM (aTXUx)

231 Democracy is predicated on the Idea that the collective intelligence of Betas, is better than the leadership of an Alpha...

Which is why we were created to be a Republic of independent States... not a Democracy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 03:34 PM (84gbM)

232 nood up

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 03:34 PM (d0Dmj)

233 I use my real name, man. Full disclosure....

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( and his hair was perfect ) at April 18, 2014 03:34 PM (JyjXt)

234 Manned or unmanned helicopter over head with a TV logo on the side = Hey look you can see my house.
Manned or unmanned helicopter over head with a police logo on the side = violation of all right and should be shot out of the sky.

Posted by: Need some tinfoil at April 18, 2014 03:34 PM (O3+sw)

235 LA Sheriffs Kept Big-Brother-Like Eye in the Sky Technology Secret, for Fears That the Public Wouldn't Approve

****

Witch!

I mean, he must be. Who else could have divined such a reaction?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 03:34 PM (DmNpO)

236 Note polynikes, that the Colonies didn't "win" so much as make the price of victory too high. If the British really cared about keeping those Colonies over everything else, they would have won. Also there was no small part played by the Atlantic Ocean jumping troop transport costs through the roof. How would that tactic work today?

Also, the Colonies shared a single general culture that clashed with, and was ultimately distinct from, British culture. Not all Red states agree on everything, neither do all Blue States. New York and California are night and day, as is Texas and Alaska. And all of these are far more similar to each other that what you would find in, say, Mexico.

We are not two nations that share a border, we are one nation that has two options for the future.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 18, 2014 03:35 PM (qJPSp)

237 new one

Posted by: Vic at April 18, 2014 03:35 PM (T2V/1)

238 223 People are smart, generally, and not bad, individually.

Put 10 or more of them together and you get nonsense.


The trouble is not groupings of people; it is that small groups of people make decisions for larger groups.

That is where stupidity comes in.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 03:35 PM (uhAkr)

239 Yeah, there is a whirlwind coming...Posted by: prescient11 at April 18, 2014 02:57 PM (tVTLU)The sooner the better at this point.

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 18, 2014 03:35 PM (uOV6o)

240 I think this is their new jobs program. Half the people watching the other half.

Posted by: Paladin at April 18, 2014 03:36 PM (QGbEp)

241 Imagine the IRS in the year 2045 using this technology to cross check the gas mileage you reported on your small business deductions form to the video of you going to and from work everyday.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 18, 2014 03:37 PM (UypUQ)

242 We're just checkin' the chicks poolside, dude.

Posted by: LA Sheriff Perv Dept. at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (wAQA5)

243 “The system was kind of kept confidential from everybody in the public,”
(LASD Sgt.) Iketani said. “A lot of people do have a problem with the
eye in the sky, the Big Brother, so in order to mitigate any of those
kinds of complaints, we basically kept it pretty hush-hush.”"
=====
So, was the "system" kept confidential from the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, too? Was the drone "system" a separate line in the county's budget, or was it hidden in a general expenditure item? Did the LA Sheriff's Department brief the LA County Supervisors on the general drone program, or were they kept in the dark, too? Because I'd like to know if this "system" is rogue LEO program or the Board of Supervisors was in on the game.

Posted by: mrp at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (JBggj)

244 Civil liberties turned out the be the loser of the War on [Drugs, Terror, etc.].This. And we can't just blame liberals. Even his Supreme Awesomeness Scalia loses his shit when it's about drugs and says "fuck rights, drugs are bad". The lost war on drugs is what funds the Mexican cartels who are subverting the government of a very large and restive country on our border. The never ending War on Terror has made us all suspects every time we want to travel or attend a sporting event. Ben Franklin should have come up with something pithy about this.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 02:54 PM (JtwS4)

No, not 'this'. Scalia never said/wrote/ruled 'fuck rights' anywhere and I guess I'm one of the few people left who thinks throwing major drug dealers in prison for most of their lives is a good idea. In a just world, we'd just shoot them on the spot and have done with it. But we can't, which is why--in the end--we were bound to lose the war on drugs.

And the war on terror? Just what, exactly, do you propose we do? There are no doubt many dozens of terrorist cells right now in the continental United States who are waiting for the go-ahead from their higher. And forget nukes: it would be comparativelystraightforward for an Al-Queda-type cell to come up with a ricin or anthrax cocktail capable of taking out a few city blocks. Don't you think we should, oh I don't fucking know, be on the lookout for these murderousassholes?

Posted by: troyriser at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (2jF2B)

245 "If you don't want someone to know what you're doing, maybe you shouldn't be doing it" - Google CEO Eric Schmidt

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 03:33 PM (aTXUx)

A corollary to the "you have nothing to worry about if you obey the law" thing.

Tell that to the jews.

How can these people be so smart and so stupid at the same time?

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (x3YFz)

246 Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 18, 2014 03:35 PM (qJPSp)

You might want to try and evaluate your India / Pakistan comparison before you try deconstruct my snark.

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 03:39 PM (m2CN7)

247 179?
random thought generator ?Back in the day on Free Republic I caught Holy Hell from a few people for pointing out "don't give President Bush any powers you wouldn't want President Hillary to have." I stand by that now.

Posted by: backhoe at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (ULH4o)

248
Manned or unmanned helicopter over head with a TV logo on the side = Hey look you can see my house.
Manned or unmanned helicopter over head with a police logo on the side = violation of all right and should be shot out of the sky.

Posted by: Need some tinfoil at April 18, 2014 03:34 PM (O3+sw)






Private vs Government.

Your local Eyewitness Action News station doesn't have power hungry jackholes with guns and arrest powers operating the drones.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 18, 2014 03:42 PM (TIIx5)

249
I'm thrilled Chelsea is pregnant, but remain unsure whether she should be punished by this pregnancy. Well, what difference does it make now?

Posted by: Rodham the Scrunt at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (nQjHM)

250 The trouble is not groupings of people; it is that small groups of people make decisions for larger groups.

That is where stupidity comes in.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 03:35 PM (uhAkr)

Well, I somewhat disagree. Not with the small group/decisions comment.

Have you ever been to a sports game? Football, baseball, etc?

Put a handful of people in close proximity and they'll instantly form tribes. Normally good people will do crazy things in static with other people.

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (x3YFz)

251
The next step for the L.A Sheriffs Dept. is to get family, friends, neighbors to inform on each other.

Posted by: Stasi at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (mETGQ)

Posted by: Darth02 at April 18, 2014 03:44 PM (NmLjr)

253 The next step for the L.A Sheriffs Dept. is to get family, friends, neighbors to inform on each other.

Posted by: Stasi at April 18, 2014 03:43 PM (mETGQ)

If you see something, say something!

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (x3YFz)

254 And forget nukes: it would be comparatively straightforward for an Al-Queda-type cell to come up with a ricin or anthrax cocktail capable of taking out a few city blocks. Don't you think we should, oh I don't fucking know, be on the lookout for these murderous assholes?

Posted by: troyriser at April 18, 2014 03:38 PM (2jF2B)

Don't you mean Workplace Violence, a Youtube Video Protest, or two dreamy teenaged lads striking out at intolerance in America?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (aTXUx)

255 someone should install some of this tech on the southern border, see if it helps anything.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (rDidD)

256 someone should install some of this tech on the southern border, see if it helps anything.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2014 03:45 PM (rDidD)

Silly! How would they get votes or stop drugs, thereby cutting off funding for a bunch of ineffective agencies?!

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:46 PM (x3YFz)

257 I am actually not as worried about this kind of stuff as I was before Bundy Ranch.

All those government guys with their fancy uniforms and guns and gear may have been ready to kill, but they damn sure weren't ready to die when faced by fed-up Americans who were.

YMMV

Posted by: Sharkman at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (SvDMt)

258 LOL... reminds me of a documentary where there is a world-renowned CSI lab in Cuidad, Mexico.

What's the point? Now *that* is a no-job-satisfaction career if there ever was one. They showed lab techs in clean gear looking through microscopes with furrowed brows. I literally laughed.

Beyond "yup. Bullets. Dead people." Why bother?

This is the equivalent of our ICE. But don't bring a grape from Canada into the country, by God!

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (x3YFz)

259 That dog in the backyard made our deputies fear for their lives, so we had to drone the entire block

Extremity in the name of paranoid cops is no vice

Posted by: Sheriff Lee Baca at April 18, 2014 03:50 PM (aTXUx)

260 Unfortunately the right is often blind to this because of their desire to be "tough on crime" and therefore lend the police too much trust and power.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 18, 2014 02:51 PM (Fd8YL)

Has to be said over and over to many conservatives, who think cops are "natural conservatives"...

Cops... Are... Not... Your ... Friends

Posted by: Sheriff Lee Baca at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (aTXUx)

261 I'm pretty parched lately.

Posted by: Tree of Liberty at April 18, 2014 03:54 PM (P8oOy)

262 We have the Post Office buying up tons of ammo now

What could go wrong

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 03:56 PM (aTXUx)

263 Maybe there WERE black helicopters.

Posted by: random thought generator at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (uYUVu)

264 We have the Post Office buying up tons of ammo now

What could go wrong

Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2014 03:56 PM (aTXUx)

Who has ever seen a postal employee with a gun...ok, beyond the obvious answer?

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (x3YFz)

265
What y'all don't know about this area is a LOT. Note that Baldi and I are not leadingyour parade, and we live and work there.
Since avast numberof people living there are criminals, why would you expect them to approve of a more effective policing method?
I'm not endorsing the method. But I sure understand better why it's around. These people can't leave their cars on the street overnight and expect their batteries and catalytic convertors to be there in the morning. Good honest working people in this neighborhood are not only hostages, they have to pay for it through their taxes as well.

Posted by: Witness at April 18, 2014 04:01 PM (b7yum)

266 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 03:35 PM (uhAkr)

Paraphrasing Mark Twain, "The IQ of a mob is the IQ of the dumbest person present in the mob divided by the number of people in the mob."

If you substitute group or bureaucracy for mob, you get an idea of how bad off we are.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 18, 2014 04:04 PM (o3MSL)

267
260 Lotsa decent people in this neighborhood the cops are the best friends they've got.
Crime is not an abstraction to these people

Posted by: Witness at April 18, 2014 04:05 PM (b7yum)

268 Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 03:58 PM (x3YFz)

Not to be outdone, apparently NOAA asked for $400,000 worth of hollow point ammo.


I guess that NOAA needs this to keep the climate change deniers at bay in case they want to see the raw temperature data (which should of course be on-line and freely available to the public).

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 18, 2014 04:07 PM (o3MSL)

269 Posted by: backhoe at April 18, 2014 03:40 PM (ULH4o)

The weaker the government, the safer its citizens!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 18, 2014 04:09 PM (o3MSL)

270 I guess that NOAA needs this to keep the climate change deniers at bay in case they want to see the raw temperature data (which should of course be on-line and freely available to the public).

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 18, 2014 04:07 PM (o3MSL)

I get that some govt buildings need security, but don't they contract that out to private firms?

And the postal service thing?

"sir, you need another stamp."
"Oh... I was...."
/draws pistol "KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM!"

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:11 PM (x3YFz)

271
OK, so on this thread supposedly rational people have asserted that no government should have any secrets from anybody in that municipality, and that there is a 4th amendment right to privacy in public places. And I'm the only one who noticed, or at least said anything.
Out of touch and delusional don't begin to begin to describe it. Easy to lose elections when you're a citizen of fantasyland.

Posted by: Witness at April 18, 2014 04:20 PM (b7yum)

272 Hey, we bought this Big Brother 1984 shit with your money. Sorry, we didn't tell you about it.

Posted by: joe dagostino at April 18, 2014 04:21 PM (5vRRq)

273 Out of touch and delusional don't begin to begin to describe it. Easy to lose elections when you're a citizen of fantasyland.

Posted by: Witness at April 18, 2014 04:20 PM (b7yum)

Whereas you have the market cornered on "condescending douchebag."

Posted by: tangonine at April 18, 2014 04:23 PM (x3YFz)

274 What the hell is going on in this country?
proto-Facism

Posted by: pissantinPeroria at April 18, 2014 04:26 PM (wjASS)

275 The whole city has been on double secret probation.

Posted by: Dales at April 18, 2014 04:28 PM (D1KMj)

276 So instead of Cavizel and Shahi showing up to save you the LA Sheriffs shoot the crap out of your Toyota.

Posted by: DaveA at April 18, 2014 04:28 PM (DL2i+)

277 Don't worry; I'm sure that Eye in the Sky thing is programmed to turn itself off when it flies near mosques.

Posted by: Null at April 18, 2014 04:29 PM (DuH+r)

278
273 Fuck off Tango I don't need that shit from you. You're trying to quiet the voice of one of the only two people you know who actually live and/or work in the community being discussed. A scientist would value objective experience over abstract theorizing. Well, a scientist would.
To put it in terms even you could understand the abstraction of this argument varies inversely with the proximity to this community.
Of course you don't attempt to refute the argument, you just try to establish your place in the clique to which you aspire here. So sad to see.
I've read your posts here for many months and thought you were way better than that. Still do.
I hear TARGET and LIQUOR STORES also have secret cameras that they don't tell everyone about.Do you giveup your 4th amendment rights at the Walmart door??? Where's the protest?
Use your training and try to think up a reasonable and practical HYPOTHESIS about how to create an environment where your abstract right to privacy is balanced somewhat with these poor people's rights to have a way to get to work in the morning. Or do they have such rights???
And you can back off fucking with me, or suffer the awkwardness of learning the immense volume of the box of dicks I welcome you to dine upon.

Posted by: Witness at April 18, 2014 04:50 PM (b7yum)

279 Y'mean this sheriff's dept?

U.S. Attorney’s Office
February 07, 2014

Central District of California
(213) 894-2434
LOS ANGELES—Two Los Angeles Sheriff’s deputies who were assigned to the Men’s Central Jail have been indicted on federal civil rights charges that accuse them of illegally using force against an inmate and then attempting to cover up the incident with false reports that formed the basis of a false prosecution initiated against the victim.

Posted by: OK, thanks, bye, old sock at April 18, 2014 05:11 PM (uopHF)

280 What the hell is going on in this country?

The wrong type of people have reached critical mass in positions of power. There's just not enough energy (admit it, you're just...tired... at the end of the day) to get a lynch mob together and clean house.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at April 18, 2014 05:16 PM (yIzT2)

281 What is wrong? Government has too much money. In fact, government has found a way to create near-infinite amounts of money by at least two effective ways, out of thin air.

Near-infinite money enables near-infinite government in the form of surveillance, bureaucracy, laws and enforcement.

When the States finally call an Article V convention to consider amendments to the Constitution, the first one must be to find ways to place strict limits on government's ability to spend more money than it takes in, and certainly to restrict its ability to create money out of thin air.

In order to pay for near both bureaucracy, benefits and wars, we are not only consuming more money than taxpayers can pay, but consuming the ability of generations yet unaborted to pay the perpetual interest. This is crazy and certainly "unsustainable", a concept the left loves to scold us about, at least when it comes to the environment.

Posted by: theBuckwheat at April 18, 2014 05:50 PM (nmcha)

282 You gave away your God and your women's honor for THIS?

Posted by: Supreme Being at April 18, 2014 07:54 PM (UDPvg)

283 You asked, "what happened?" Do you really want to know?

We are a land of arrogant and ignorant idol-worshippers. Every last one of us.

We created this hell. Every last one of us.

There is no political or legal hope. We are like a plane 5000 feet in the air with an engine that just exploded; we are in the state of free-fall between engine failure and the fiery crash below. How long is the free fall? Who knows? It could be 10 months or 10 years, but there is no fixing it. We are a modern-day Babylon, and just like Belshazzar, we see the writing on the wall.

You want salvation? Repent of your sins and turn to Jesus Christ. That was always the only exit anyway.

But your nation as you know it is gone.

Posted by: chuckles mcgee at April 19, 2014 12:31 AM (RWOcS)

Cool Beans: Earth-Sized Planet in the Habitable Zone Discovered Very Near our Own Solar System

At just a mere 500 light years away, why, it's almost walking distance.

It's in the outer limits of the habitable zone, though. The cold part of the zone, like Mars. But it's more massive than Mars (more massive than Earth, in fact) so it could hold more of an atmosphere and thus be warmer.

Water could exist in liquid form, if it exists there at all.

Kepler-186f actually lies at the edge of the Kepler-186 star's habitable zone, meaning that liquid water on the planet's surface could freeze, according to study co-author Stephen Kane of San Francisco State University.

Because of its position in the outer part of the habitable zone, the planet's larger size could actually help keep its water liquid, Kane said in a statement. Since it is slightly bigger than Earth, Kepler-186f could have a thicker atmosphere, which would insulate the planet and potentially keep its water in liquid form, Kane added.

The planet orbits a red dwarf, much colder than our own sun, but the planet is much closer to it (and so is within the smaller star's smaller habitable zone).

kepler-186f.jpg

This is kind of interesting. I know, vaguely, that a planet's atmospheric make-up depends on its mass. Mass determines not just how much gas a planet will hold in its atmosphere, but which gases, specifically. I believe it's easier to hold heavier gases, and harder to hold lighter ones (like hydrogen and helium).

Mars, being quite a bit less massive than earth, can't hold oxygen or nitrogen.

This planet, being just about earth's mass (1.1 earth-masses) could. But anyway, here's the interesting part: You can't go much more over earth's actual mass before a planet will begin trapping hydrogen and helium (rather than losing grip on these light atoms and letting them slip into space), and thus become not very earth-like at at all.

"What we've learned, just over the past few years, is that there is a definite transition which occurs around about 1.5 Earth radii," Quintana said in a statement. "What happens there is that for radii between 1.5 and 2 Earth radii, the planet becomes massive enough that it starts to accumulate a very thick hydrogen and helium atmosphere, so it starts to resemble the gas giants of our solar system rather than anything else that we see as terrestrial."

So "earth-like" is a very, very narrow range as far as mass -- say, I don't know, 0.8 earth masses to 1.5 earth masses -- and as far as distance from star.

Not a lot of wiggle room here.


thanks to @rdbrewer4.

Posted by: Ace at 01:22 PM



Comments

1 Very cool!
So maybe NASA could look into this when they're not doing Muslim outreach?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 01:23 PM (IdOTf)

2 Step 2 to finding an earthlike planet will be that it has a moon similar to ours as well.

Posted by: buzzion at April 18, 2014 01:24 PM (LI48c)

3 >>> Step 2 to finding an earthlike planet will be that it has a moon similar to ours as well.

i think that's on the "Like to Have" not "Need to Have" list.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 01:24 PM (/FnUH)

4 I wonder if Recovery Summer has kicked in yet on Kepler number whatever.

Posted by: Vice President Rayban von Chompers at April 18, 2014 01:25 PM (GOoUs)

5 Ehhhh...I tend to believe it's either a big dead rock or a 'hell world' like Venus.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 01:25 PM (uhAkr)

6 Still no plane though.

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at April 18, 2014 01:25 PM (Aif/5)

7
We are all future Keplerians.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 01:25 PM (8c12T)

8 Any missing Malaysian jetliners there?

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at April 18, 2014 01:26 PM (K3RTK)

9 Shhhh, don't tell anyone where this planet is. Lets just keep it our little secret.

Posted by: John Galt at April 18, 2014 01:26 PM (GOoUs)

10 Oh Great, the EcoNuts will protest we're 'offshoring' our pollution and capitalistic notions upon this poor, defenseless planetoid.

...all the while the DemoRats are plotting how to tax the shit out of it...

Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at April 18, 2014 01:26 PM (zL/eJ)

11 Here's where I'd throw in a cool snarky Heinlein reference if I'd ever read Heinlein.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 01:27 PM (JtwS4)

12
3 >>> Step 2 to finding an earthlike planet will be that it has a moon similar to ours as well. i think that's on the "Like to Have" not "Need to Have" list.
Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 01:24 PM (/FnUH)


I don't know. Pretty sure its the reason our axis is so stable.

Posted by: buzzion at April 18, 2014 01:27 PM (LI48c)

13 That's nothing, I found an extra 1.5 million Obamacare sign ups in a week.

Posted by: Emperor Baraka I at April 18, 2014 01:27 PM (Aif/5)

14
Hey Ace.
The story is talking planet SIZE (radii) and you're talking mass.

They're related but not the same thing.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 18, 2014 01:27 PM (h53OH)

15 I remember that someone once told me that the very act of observing a planet changed its behavior forever, so I am against all planetary observation. Science.

Posted by: Bill McKibben at April 18, 2014 01:28 PM (GOoUs)

16 8 Any missing Malaysian jetliners there?
Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at April 18, 2014 01:26 PM (K3RTK)


Ugh. I just thought of hundreds of dead bodies trapped in that ferry bumping around. You think the jet broke up? Or, are people bumping around? They claim that you can still see human remains on the ocean floor from the Titanic, but I find that hard to believe.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 01:29 PM (8c12T)

17 The planet orbits a red dwarf, much colder than our own sun, but the
planet is much closer to it (and so is within the smaller star's smaller
habitable zone).



Shorter days and nights.


Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:29 PM (GQ8sn)

18
Well the artists depiction shows some nice trees on Kepler dash numbers, so I say we go... or at least ask him about the weather.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 01:30 PM (BrAHD)

19 I remember that someone once told me that the very act of observing a planet changed its behavior forever

Pointing a telescope at Jupiter made it finally stop masturbating.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 01:30 PM (uhAkr)

20 15 I remember that someone once told me that the very act of observing a planet changed its behavior forever, so I am against all planetary observation. Science.
Posted by: Bill McKibben at April 18, 2014 01:28 PM (GOoUs)


What? The planet says, hey ma, Bill is looking at me! Make him stop!

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 01:30 PM (8c12T)

21 Our Sublime Padishah Emperor has charged me to take possession of this planet and end all dispute.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 18, 2014 01:30 PM (5xmd7)

22 Our Sublime Padishah Emperor has charged me to take possession of this planet and end all dispute.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 18, 2014 01:30 PM (5xmd7)

The Spice must flow!

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:31 PM (GQ8sn)

23 Time to bottle up some black goo and start terraforming that bad boy.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 18, 2014 01:32 PM (T1005)

24 Calling a sun a "dwarf" is demeaning. I prefer "hydrogen supply-challenged".

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at April 18, 2014 01:32 PM (GOoUs)

25 I welcome any illegal alien immigrants from this new planet as an act of love.

Posted by: John McCain (D-Juarez) at April 18, 2014 01:32 PM (ksJYU)

26 " They claim that you can still see human remains on the ocean floor from the Titanic, but I find that hard to believe.
Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 01:29 PM (8c12T) "

No. Ballard said they were puzzled by seeing hundreds of pairs of boots, until he realized that tanned leather was the only thing left after 70 years.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 18, 2014 01:32 PM (5xmd7)

27 I'd bet Barky has a higher approval rating there than here.

Posted by: mallfly at April 18, 2014 01:32 PM (bJm7W)

28 Also, it needs a better name than Kepler-186. I could see coming back from space and saying "I banged this hot Venusian chick", but "I had a soul-meld with a Kepler-186ian"? Not so much.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 01:33 PM (JtwS4)

29 23 Time to bottle up some black goo and start terraforming that bad boy.....

also said by moochelle Obama on her honeymoon

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 18, 2014 01:33 PM (krmE0)

30 We can't call it a Class M planet, though,until we know its atmosphere.

Posted by: Bud Norton at April 18, 2014 01:33 PM (6cOMd)

31 Say a planet with intelligent life is a million-to-one shot. That means our galaxy alone would have thousands.

But...

What are the odds any two of them are around at the same time? We've only been around for 100,000 years or so, in a billions-years-old galaxy. We could disappear a million years from now and still be just an eyeblink. Who knows how many intelligent alien species have come and gone and how many are just in the amoeba stage now and will rise long after we're gone.

People talk about how the vast expanse of space isolates us from contact with alien species. They never talk about the vaster expanse of time.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:33 PM (celt+)

32 There is no point hoping to develop the technology to travel to other worlds, if we keep thinking that environments must be protected from human intervention and "contamination."

I mean, what is the point of going to Mars if eco nuts are going to say that mining or colonies are endangering the local bacteria, if any?

Let alone tera-forming an entire planet...

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 18, 2014 01:34 PM (C+qQ0)

33 Quick, better give the EPA more power so they can declare it off limits for humans to use.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at April 18, 2014 01:34 PM (FFIoe)

34 Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:33 PM (celt+)

*****

Interesting point.

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 18, 2014 01:34 PM (C+qQ0)

35 *starts planning a Golgafrinchan-style colonization project that involves shipping every leftist in the world off to this new planet*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 01:35 PM (4df7R)

36 Elizabeth Warren has a wonderful family recipe for Keplerian Space Casserole.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 18, 2014 01:35 PM (+lsX1)

37 Spoiler: It was obliterated by Kepler-SMOD 450 years ago.

Posted by: Andy at April 18, 2014 01:35 PM (2OaXr)

38 Kepler-186ian chicks are easy.

Posted by: --- at April 18, 2014 01:35 PM (ksJYU)

39 Ya know, this is cool stuff to hear but is it really important news? (not your story Ace but the media is always jumping on these "the latest planet" stories).

The freaking planet is 500 light years away. We are probably (as a race/planet) never going to get there to see. So who cares? Why is this being reported? Why is research being done on this? What benefit does it have? How does this expand our knowledge to aid or protect us in the universe?

Shouldn't they be like studying why the Sun had fewer sunspots for the last 17 years and did that affect our climate? And how much does the Sun affect the climate on Earth?

Aren't there more important things to do with telescopes than finding some maybe planet that maybe is earth like and maybe has life on it. Maybe.

It's a waste of time and money.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 01:35 PM (JS0vr)

40 What are the odds any two of them are around at the
same time? We've only been around for 100,000 years or so, in a
billions-years-old galaxy. We could disappear a million years from now
and still be just an eyeblink. Who knows how many intelligent alien
species have come and gone and how many are just in the amoeba stage now
and will rise long after we're gone.

People talk about how the
vast expanse of space isolates us from contact with alien species. They
never talk about the vaster expanse of time.


Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:33 PM (celt+)


Reminds me of that short story, "The Last Question" that was linked on the sidebar not too long ago.

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:35 PM (GQ8sn)

41 28 Also, it needs a better name than Kepler-186.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 01:33 PM (JtwS4)

*****

How about "LV-426"?

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 18, 2014 01:36 PM (C+qQ0)

42 This is why we really need to get busy and design some sort of FTL drive.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 18, 2014 01:36 PM (I8YZX)

43 I don't know. Pretty sure its the reason our axis is so stable.

Posted by: buzzion

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That's what I thought. Stabilizes the climate or something?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:36 PM (celt+)

44 How about "LV-426"?

It's a rock...

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 18, 2014 01:36 PM (I8YZX)

45 Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 01:24 PM (/FnUH)

There are many fundamental steps on the upward path to sentient life on Earth that required the moon to be there for them to have happened.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 01:37 PM (JS0vr)

46 "Pointing a telescope at Jupiter made it finally stop masturbating."

-------------------

Coward.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at April 18, 2014 01:37 PM (celt+)

47
So who cares? Why is this being reported? Why is research being done on this? What benefit does it have? How does this expand our knowledge to aid or protect us in the universe?


I'll take "fundamental questions about the nature of existence" for $1,000, Alex.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 01:37 PM (JtwS4)

48 When you look at a very tiny box of atmosphere “Temperature” makes more sense as “average kinetic energy”. There’s a spread - some things slower (cooler), and some faster (hotter), and they’re all zooming around like pool table mid-break … on crack.

The larger components can be in the higher kinetic energy range without actually moving all -that- fast, because they’re heavy. But when a lighter component ends up knocked into being ‘higher than average kinetic energy’, that translates to a much higher velocity.

For the lightest components (hydrogen, helium), that velocity is -sometimes- high enough to surpass escape velocity. And at the edge of the atmosphere, the time-between-impacts with some other atom or molecule is longer … -> they escape.

Also, at the top of the atmosphere, photon-molecule interactions means that sometimes common molecules (H2, O2, N2, etc.) are split into individual atoms. Much easier for an individual O atom to reach escape velocity than it is for O2 - which is twice as heavy.

Mars is “too light” - escape velocity is too low compared to average temperature and thus H, He, O, O2 and others ‘leak’ out too easily.

So, happier with a heavier planet.

Posted by: Al at April 18, 2014 01:37 PM (9ynpo)

49 TFG is planning a campaign stop there in July.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 01:38 PM (fWAjv)

50 People talk about how the vast expanse of space isolates us from contact with alien species. They never talk about the vaster expanse of time.


Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:33 PM (celt+)


But history does not just flow forward, but backwards and sideways!

Posted by: Barrak Obama after meeting Dr. Who at April 18, 2014 01:38 PM (84gbM)

51 Son of a bitch! The whole damn universe is just chock full of lucky coincidences.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 01:38 PM (xWW96)

52 When we colonize Kepler 186, will Lieawatha start shrieking that we stole the land from her people?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 01:38 PM (DrWcr)

53
>>>>>Aren't there more important things to do with telescopes than
finding some maybe planet that maybe is earth like and maybe has life on
it.<<<<<<<<<<

eh, people have different interests.

But I agree that we should be spending money on the things I was promised as a child - real Jetson type flying cars and x-ray glasses to see through Kate Uptons clothes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 01:38 PM (BrAHD)

54 So we'll go there, and there's Bigfoot playing poker with Elvis, D.B. Cooper, and the tattered shreds of ace's self-esteem.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 18, 2014 01:39 PM (I8YZX)

55 44 How about "LV-426"?It's a rock...
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 18, 2014 01:36 PM (I8YZX)

...no indigenous life.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 01:39 PM (DrWcr)

56 Stephen Hawking must be so pleased.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 18, 2014 01:39 PM (V70Uh)

57 Say a planet with intelligent life is a million-to-one shot. That means our galaxy alone would have thousands.


Before we go theorizing about how many planets may exist with intelligent life, we need to prove that there's at least ONE. And before you go saying, "The Earth!" I feel the need to remind you that we elected a thin-skinned toddler with zero experience to the most powerful political office in the world. TWICE.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 01:39 PM (4df7R)

58
also I am 1/64th Keplerian.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 01:39 PM (BrAHD)

59
There are many fundamental steps on the upward path to sentient life on Earth that required the moon to be there for them to have happened.

Tides are cool. I'm a fisherman and they're important for that. Plus you get rough timing of the menstrual cycle and something to howl at when you're feeling howly.

How is the moon necessary for peptide bonding or whatever the first step in the chain was?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 01:39 PM (JtwS4)

60 It's a waste of time and money.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 01:35 PM (JS0vr)

Yes it is. You know what is also a waste of time and money?

All the time I spend fapping to porn and internet videos.

I'll never make it with Kate Upson in zero gravity.

But I do it anyway.

Same with this.

Astronomy and alien planets are simply cool.

They are one of the few things that can evoke a sense of total wonder and awe.

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 18, 2014 01:39 PM (C+qQ0)

61 There are many fundamental steps on the upward path to sentient life on Earth that required the moon to be there for them to have happened.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 01:37 PM (JS0vr)


but the Moon is such a Harsh Mistress....

Posted by: Romeo13, gettin his Nerd on at April 18, 2014 01:39 PM (84gbM)

62 If Kepler-186f is shorthand for "world with naked green-skinned babes with writhing torsos," count me in.

Posted by: Fritz at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (oJUxt)

63 I like big air and I can not lie
You other fellas can't deny
That when a globe spins round up there in space
With a troposphere in place
You use lungs, wanna talk and cough
'Cause you notice with air it's stuffed

So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your planet got atmosphere? (Hell yeah!)
It's time to breathe it! (Breathe it!)
Breathe it! (Breathe it!)
Breathe that planet's air!
Planet's got air!

Posted by: naturalfake AKA Sir Breathes-A-Lot at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (0cMkb)

64 I only bang chicks from RU-486.

Posted by: Space Commander Clinton at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (ksJYU)

65
Can we name it Vulcan?

or Kronos?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (9lyhM)

66 Shouldn't they be like studying why the Sun had fewer sunspots for the last 17 years and did that affect our climate? And how much does the Sun affect the climate on Earth?

By looking at a bunch of different stars you can determine more about your own.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (uhAkr)

67 We could warm it up with global warming activities such as farting.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 18, 2014 01:41 PM (AaZet)

68 Where be da green wimmin at?

Posted by: Captain Kirk at April 18, 2014 01:41 PM (I8YZX)

69 Are the surface temperatures hot enough to support a sustainable tortoise population?

Posted by: S. Muldoon, interplanetary turtle wrangler and erstwhile mime. at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (MKpBT)

70 How about "LV-426"?

It's a rock...

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Nah, we've got 60, 70 families there. Terraformers. It's what we call a "shake 'n' bake" colony.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (celt+)

71 Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 01:37 PM (JtwS4)

This doesn't answer one damn question about that.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (JS0vr)

72 How do they know? I mean really? We've never been there and we will never go there based on how far away it is. The rest is just mental masturbation. I would find it easier to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (32Ze2)

73 "Mars, being quite a bit less massive than earth, can't hold oxygen or nitrogen."

Actually, that's not true-- lower Martian gravity isn't the (main) reason why it has very little atmosphere compared to Earth.

Mars had a much thicker atmosphere in the past, which may have allowed for liquid water, but that atmosphere eroded over time for unknown reasons, the leading hypothesis being that Mars' lack of a robust and consistent magnetic field allowed the solar wind to blow most of the atmosphere into space.

That said, the lower Martian gravity doesn't help prevent atmospheric erosion, i.e. it probably didn't take much for the originally thick atmosphere to "bleed out" in the face of the solar wind/interplanetary impacts/normal atmospheric erosion into space (which happens everywhere, including Earth).

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (6T8Ay)

74 i think that's on the "Like to Have" not "Need to Have" list.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 01:24 PM (/FnUH)

Not getting hit by the meteors the moon catches is probably important.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (GDulk)

75 Is it filled full of hawt chicks and scotch? If so, call Richard Branson to fire that bitch up. I'm outta here.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (/KiIU)

76 It's a waste of time and money.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 01:35 PM (JS0vr)


Andddd.. that's your opinion...

Mine is that we need to get off this rock, to give the human race a better chance of survival.

I'm sure you would have been on the shore, waving goodbye to Columbus, saying "they're doomed... right off the edge of the world"...

Posted by: Romeo13, gettin his Nerd on at April 18, 2014 01:43 PM (84gbM)

77 To infinity... and beyond!

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 18, 2014 01:43 PM (I8YZX)

78 " So "earth-like" is a very, very narrow range as far as mass -- say, I don't know, 0.8 earth masses to 1.5 earth masses -- and as far as distance from star.

"Not a lot of wiggle room here."


There have been a whole lot of other factors which have come to light indicating that getting a habitable planet is not so easy as Carl Sagan insinuated it was.



Posted by: D-Lamp at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (bb5+k)

79 Interesting in an academic sort of way, but from a purely practical standpoint- not really.

Humans will never set foot on or orbit the planet. If anyone lives there, they'll never set foot on Earth.

Just communicating would take 1,000 years to pass a message round trip.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (SY2Kh)

80 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (uhAkr)


Unless they can observe up close, the majority of their "observations" are really guesses.

The old story about the donkey walking by a slot in a fence?

Just because you have a theory about something you're observing, doesn't make it a fact until you can observe up close with no barriers.

There's a big one in the way for actual oberservations; distance.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (JS0vr)

81 Son of a bitch! The whole damn universe is just chock full of lucky coincidences.

Posted by: maddogg

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Yeah, making something incomprehensibly huge will tend to lead to that.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (celt+)

82 I would find it easier to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (32Ze2)

Wait? Whut

Posted by: RWC heartbroken lil tyke at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (fWAjv)

83 Kepler 186f ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.....
In fact it's cold as hell....
And there's no one there to raise them if you did

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (/KiIU)

84 If Kepler-186f is shorthand for "world with naked green-skinned babes with writhing torsos," count me in.


Posted by: Fritz at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (oJUxt)


Why is green the go-to colour for sci-fi? Why not blue, pink, red, or even puce???

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (GQ8sn)

85 Good old Rand. Burnishing his credentials with an Alex Jones interview.

Rand Paul: Nuclear Iran Not a Threat to U.S., Israel http://shar.es/Tj2L7 via @sharethis

Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) denied that a nuclear Iran would pose a national security threat to the United States or Israel in a 2007 radio interview with talk show host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

“Even our own intelligence community consensus opinion now is that they’re not a threat. Like my dad [Rep. Ron Paul] says, [the Iranians] don’t have an Air Force, they don’t have a Navy,” said Paul, according to a recording of the interview. “You know, it’s ridiculous to think they’re a threat to our national security.”

“It’s not even that viable to say they’re a national threat to Israel,” Paul added. “Most people say Israel has 100 nuclear weapons, you know.”

The future senator, who was working on his father’s presidential campaign at the time, also came out against military action, saying Republicans “all want to invade Iran next.”

“I tell people in speeches, I say, you know we’re against the Iraq War, we have been from the beginning,” said Paul. “But you know we’re also against the Iran war—you know the one that hasn’t started yet.”

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 01:45 PM (ZPrif)

86 can we just ship off all the fucking commie libs on earth to this place? They can have their own "Peruvia"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 01:45 PM (HVff2)

87 81 Son of a bitch! The whole damn universe is just chock full of lucky coincidences.

Posted by: maddogg

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Yeah, making something incomprehensibly huge will tend to lead to that.


Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (celt+)


You're welcome...

Posted by: God at April 18, 2014 01:45 PM (84gbM)

88 The story is talking planet SIZE (radii) and you're talking mass.

They're related but not the same thing.
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 18, 2014 01:27 PM (h53OH)


Picky, picky.....doughnuts?

Posted by: Rosie O'Planetoid at April 18, 2014 01:45 PM (tE3uo)

89 Mass determines not just how much gas a planet will hold


************

You wouldn't believe the gas I've got.

Posted by: Planet Alec Baldwin at April 18, 2014 01:45 PM (RJMhd)

90

it sounds like Hoth

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2014 01:45 PM (9lyhM)

91
Not getting hit by the meteors the moon catches is probably important.

Yeah, the moon zips around like Willie Mays making impossible over the shoulder meteor catches. Our atmosphere catches, bounces and burns meteors, until it doesn't. Like Tungunska or SMOD.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 01:45 PM (JtwS4)

92 even puce???


Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (GQ8sn)

guess that's better than puss

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (HVff2)

93 Well, there you go. Let's start building those spaceships, people. Time's a wasting.

Posted by: Stephen Hawking at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (V70Uh)

94 Mine is that we need to get off this rock, to give the human race a better chance of survival.

Keep in mind that the feds will be the ones selecting the people for that mission.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (DrWcr)

95 This is why we really need to get busy and design some sort of FTL drive.

I hate to break it to you, but...

Posted by: Zombie Albert Einstein at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (SY2Kh)

96 So if the planet's mass is 1.5 that of Earth's, does that mean its surface gravity is 1.5 that of Earth's as well? So something 100 pounds on Earth weighs 150 on Kepler?

Posted by: Iblis at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (zCnVx)

97 39 Ya know, this is cool stuff to hear but is it really important news? (not your story Ace but the media is always jumping on these "the latest planet" stories).

The freaking planet is 500 light years away. We are probably (as a race/planet) never going to get there to see. So who cares? Why is this being reported? Why is research being done on this? What benefit does it have? How does this expand our knowledge to aid or protect us in the universe?

Shouldn't they be like studying why the Sun had fewer sunspots for the last 17 years and did that affect our climate? And how much does the Sun affect the climate on Earth?

Aren't there more important things to do with telescopes than finding some maybe planet that maybe is earth like and maybe has life on it. Maybe.

It's a waste of time and money.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That


I will attempt to address your questions calmly and rationally.

First of all: A lot of people care. I would wager that a majority of people care. Even if we can never reach this particular planet, the news that it (and many more like it) exist fills the hearts of humans around the world with hope and excitement.

You can similarly argue against religion and all religious beliefs: Whom does it benefit? Ther'e no proof of heaven or God, etc. etc. And a common justification is: Religion makes people happy, religious belief fills people with hope and contentment. So: Planetary science is just as valid as the Catholic church on a purely metpahysical level.

Second: you act as if looking for habitable ecosystems in space is "a waste of time" preventing us humans from doing more useful things. I disagree. The modern world is a world of specialization. I don't think forcing these scientists to grow beans in the fields or design a better perfume for the Kim Kardahsian line or even research sunspots is going to improve humanity much if at all. If these guys are inspired to look for planets, let them follow their dream. It's not up to use to dictate how people expend their intellectual energy.

And lastly: Eventually, one way or the other, Earth will cease to be livable. It might be in a couple of billion years when the sun burns out, it might be when an asteroid smashed into us a thousand years from now and it might be when Al Qaeda seizes Pakistan's nukes and contaminates the planet tomorrow. One way or the other, we're going to have to start looking for new places to inhabit. Why not start as soon as we can? Even if we can't live on Kepler 186, the practice of finding it will help us to find nearer and nearer ecosystems, until one day we find the New Earth.

Posted by: zombie at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (mizYg)

98 would find it easier to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (32Ze2)
You mean they don't exist?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (R8hU8)

99 You're welcome...
Posted by: God at April 18, 2014 01:45 PM (84gbM)


You didn't build that.

Posted by: Emperor Telewoobie McSandtrap the 1st at April 18, 2014 01:47 PM (tE3uo)

100 i think that's on the "Like to Have" not "Need to Have" list.



Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 01:24 PM (/FnUH)


But since we still don't know for sure what created our OWN moon, how can we know all the benefits or drawbacks associated with it? We really don't know all that much about the moon and how it interacts with us here on Earth, though we certainly know more about it than other places in the solar system.


Fun fact: Moon rocks are actually the most valuable substance on the planet, because they're so damn rare.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 01:47 PM (4df7R)

101 Cool Beans: Earth-Sized Planet in the Habitable Zone Discovered Very Near our Own Solar System

****

Cool! We should immediately begin sending signals about how we embrace diversity and respect all other cultures and welcome them to our home.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 01:47 PM (DmNpO)

102 Yeah, making something incomprehensibly huge will tend to lead to that.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (celt+) Really? Examples (outside of the size of the universe) A million monkeys typing on a million typewriters for a million years will produce literary masterpieces? I remain skeptical.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (xWW96)

103 Keep in mind that the feds will be the ones selecting the people for that mission.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (DrWcr)

Big part of why I hope it's impossible to invent an actual weather machine. Nothing good can come out of having that sort of power (and the government *will* insist they're the only ones responsible enough to have it).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (GDulk)

104 I would find it easier to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (32Ze2)

But SCIENCE!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (AaZet)

105 You know what this means?


Paul Krugman can finally have his alien invasion!!!!



Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (GQ8sn)

106
Keep in mind that the feds will be the ones selecting the people for that mission.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (DrWcr)


Nope.... that's when the Second Amendment comes into play...

And the Feds will WANT to get rid of people like me... you know... the trouble makers...

I truly believe that the Meek shall inherit the Earth... because the rest of us are going to leave...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (84gbM)

107 Can we name it Vulcan?



or Kronos?




Hal

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (d0Dmj)

108
Hopefully, some day, the Russians will build a space-rocket that can travel there.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (9lyhM)

109 Why is green the go-to colour for sci-fi? Why not blue, pink, red, or even puce???
Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:44 PM (GQ8sn)

I banged an Andorian chick once.

Posted by: Captain Kirk at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (DrWcr)

110 Can we name it Vulcan?

or Kronos?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (9lyhM)


Gothos.

Posted by: Gen Trelaine, Ret. at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (tE3uo)

111
"How do they know? I mean really? We've never been there and we will
never go there based on how far away it is. The rest is just mental
masturbation."

Posted by: Truck Monkey

--------------

A hundred thousand years of this sort of "mental masturbation" is why you didn't draw that comment in pictographs on a cave wall with vegetable paint.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:49 PM (celt+)

112 More from the Rand piece at Free Beacon, some nice double-speak:

The head of Rand Paul’s official PAC told the Free Beacon that Paul has never claimed Iran is not a threat to the U.S. and Israel.

“It has always been Senator Paul’s position that Iran poses a threat,” said Rand PAC head and Paul’s former chief of staff Doug Stafford.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 18, 2014 01:49 PM (ZPrif)

113 Let's go up there and give Fire Water and Blankets to the indigenous peoples!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 01:49 PM (32Ze2)

114 Earth is unique as far as we know almost intentionally so, no?

Posted by: bobbymike at April 18, 2014 01:49 PM (hY7Vw)

115 Regarding Rand Paul, First-term Senators (or Senators in general) need not apply.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 18, 2014 01:49 PM (V70Uh)

116 In the name of social justice, the first wave of colonists will be comprised entirely of homosexuals.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 01:50 PM (DrWcr)

117 I banged an Andorian chick once.

Posted by: Captain Kirk at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (DrWcr)


I wouldn't mind some more of that Arcturian poontang.

Posted by: Cpl Frost at April 18, 2014 01:50 PM (GQ8sn)

118 Ace,

There is an Intelligent Design documentary, The Priveleged Planet that talks about the MANY non-negotiable criteria that go into making the earth suitable for life. If you find this stuff interesting, you will find that very informative.

Posted by: Sambo at April 18, 2014 01:50 PM (hp3yM)

119 In the name of social justice, the first wave of colonists will be comprised entirely of homosexuals.




Do like we've always done. Penal Colony.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 01:50 PM (d0Dmj)

120 Can I get a deal on some property there? I am looking for an exit strategy. I would like to get off this liberal shit hole.

Posted by: Dan at April 18, 2014 01:50 PM (COpZ4)

121 We should immediately begin sending signals about how we embrace diversity and respect all other cultures and welcome them to our home.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 01:47 PM

Well if they have some money for my campaign, then I agree. Pass the bourbon. Thanks.

Posted by: J Boehner at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (/KiIU)

122 The cool thing about earth's water is that (as the TV guy tells me) it all came from icy comets smashing into the early earth's surface, and melting here.

Where the ice-comets got the water in the first place I couldn't tell you.

Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (i5GO4)

123 63 I like big air and I can not lie
You other fellas can't deny
That when a globe spins round up there in space
With a troposphere in place
You use lungs, wanna talk and cough
'Cause you notice with air it's stuffed

So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your planet got atmosphere? (Hell yeah!)
It's time to breathe it! (Breathe it!)
Breathe it! (Breathe it!)
Breathe that planet's air!
Planet's got air!

Posted by: naturalfake AKA Sir Breathes-A-Lot


I quoted it so that everyone gets to read it again. Bravo!

Posted by: zombie at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (mizYg)

124 I remain skeptical.


Posted by: maddogg

--------------

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (celt+)

125 Posted by: zombie at April 18, 2014 01:46 PM (mizYg)

Wow...

hit that one outta the atmosphere.

Posted by: Planet Alec Baldwin at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (RJMhd)

126 If it has a red sun, Superman could live there.

Posted by: Null at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (xjpRj)

127 Where the ice-comets got the water in the first place I couldn't tell you.




Ozarka.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (d0Dmj)

128 Where the ice-comets got the water in the first place I couldn't tell you.


Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (i5GO4)

______________
The Easter Bunny!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 01:51 PM (32Ze2)

129 Mars could hold oxygen and nitrogen, but oxygen and nitrogen are generally found in chemical compounds such as CO2 or ammonia and are released into free atmospheric form N2 and O2 via organic or chemical processes called cycles. Without such, no atmosphere that we can use. Mars has slowly depleted its He, H, etc. because of low mass. But Earth also losses these on a continual basis. At least that is the way i learned it.

Posted by: pat at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (KCg4m)

130 110 Can we name it Vulcan?

or Kronos?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (9lyhM)

Gothos.

Posted by: Gen Trelaine, Ret. at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (tE3uo)


Gor!

Posted by: Carl Talbot at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (84gbM)

131 "Ther'e no proof of heaven or God, etc. etc."

Uh. There were witnesses to the Resurrection. Many of those witnesses went on to die for their faith.

People believe what their black hearts want them to believe.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (V70Uh)

132 Oooh, this should be fun.
Intra-coalition, blue on blue, fight.

Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers
Muslim Cab Drivers At Cleveland Airport Refuse To Drive Cabs With Advertisement For Gay Games… http://shar.es/TjWJf

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (ZPrif)

133 I'm surprised to see Venus even remotely close to the habitable zone.

You wouldn't want to go to Venus.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (8w6pW)

134
Oooh, this should be fun.

Intra-coalition, blue on blue, fight.



Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers

Muslim Cab Drivers At Cleveland Airport Refuse To Drive Cabs With Advertisement For Gay Games… http://shar.es/TjWJf

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (ZPrif)


Prediction:
muzzie cabbies - 1

Gheys - 0

Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (GQ8sn)

135 If all this stuff about the planet were real and important, Ronan Farrow would have mentioned it by now.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 01:53 PM (u2a4R)

136 The good thing is that Keplarians are natural conservatives.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 01:53 PM (fWAjv)

137 Pointing a telescope at Jupiter made it finally stop masturbating.

-
To boldly cum where no man has cum before!

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 01:53 PM (XUKZU)

138 I came up with a strategy for naming the planet. I put the top 10 suggestions each on a small piece of paper and threw them in a hat, and drew out the winner. The planet's new name is "Inspected by #7"

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 01:53 PM (MKpBT)

139 Let's go check it out. Just let me put on my red uniform...

Posted by: Lt. Expendable, NCC-1701-D at April 18, 2014 01:53 PM (0HooB)

140 Cool Beans: Earth-Sized Planet in the Habitable Zone Discovered Very Near our Own Solar System

But how does this help the GOPe?

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 01:54 PM (zoehZ)

141 It's a trap!

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 18, 2014 01:54 PM (5UteM)

142 2nd law of Thermodynamics has been characterized as stating that things, left on their own, move from a more organized state to a lower energy or less organized state. But life in general does not seem to follow the rule. Seems to me like bacteria would have been the highest energy level obtainable by dumb luck and coincidence. Yet we have complex life all around us, by sheer dumb luck of course. Does evolution conflict the second law?

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 01:54 PM (xWW96)

143 Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (ZPrif)

The gheys will ignore it. Out of sight out of mind.

Posted by: RWC at April 18, 2014 01:54 PM (fWAjv)

144 Pointing a telescope at Jupiter made it finally stop masturbating.



-

To boldly cum where no man has cum before!



There's a Uranus joke in there, but I'm not going there.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 01:54 PM (d0Dmj)

145 122
Recent analysis of asteroids and meteors has changed that a bit. It now appears that a good deal of waters was bound in the initial coalescing material. In fact the Earth and other bodies have a great deal of water locked in the rocks.

Posted by: pat at April 18, 2014 01:54 PM (KCg4m)

146 Problem is--we don't have the "drive" any more--most likely it will be China.

They're interested--we've ceded.

Posted by: tasker at April 18, 2014 01:54 PM (RJMhd)

147
Just because you have a theory about something you're observing, doesn't make it a fact until you can observe up close with no barriers.


Which we can't do with the sun. All we can do is look at it. We can't run tests on it.

There's no reason to not look at other stars. Your argument seems to be that we might not know what we are seeing, so there's no point in looking.

But that's true of the very tiny things we interact with as well.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 18, 2014 01:55 PM (uhAkr)

148 133 I'm surprised to see Venus even remotely close to the habitable zone.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (8w6pW)


It used to be habitable, but the stupid Venusians fucked up their environment with all of their SUVs.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 01:55 PM (zoehZ)

149
Has anyone called dibsy? It's important to call dibs. I call dibs.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 01:55 PM (8c12T)

150
Cool! We should immediately begin sending signals about how we embrace diversity and respect all other cultures and welcome them to our home.

-
And tell them we're disarming.

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 01:55 PM (XUKZU)

151 Yeah, the gays have already surrendered to the cabbies, it seems. No court battles for the cabbies:

Two of the three companies operating at Ohio’s largest airport were informed by the drivers — one-third of the airport’s total fleet — last week that they will no longer participate in the airport’s dedicated taxicab program. The companies, Ace and Yellow Taxi Cab, were told by the drivers that their decision was based on religious reasons, airport spokeswoman Jacqueline Mayo told FoxNews.com.

Ann Gynn, a spokeswoman for the Gay Games, said she believes the protest is an “isolated” case and not indicative of the beliefs held by most residents in Cleveland and Akron, where the Gay Games will be held on Aug. 9-16.

“What we’ve been seeing for the last couple of years is a lot of positive support and a welcome atmosphere within the community,” Gynn told FoxNews.com. “This was a decision by those individual cab drivers. It was a personal decision.”

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 01:55 PM (ZPrif)

152 Prediction:
muzzie cabbies - 1

Gheys - 0

***

I predict a win for you on this one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 18, 2014 01:56 PM (DmNpO)

153 How close is this to Uranus?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 18, 2014 01:56 PM (32Ze2)

154 One way or the other, we're going to have to start looking for new places to inhabit. Why not start as soon as we can? Even if we can't live on Kepler 186, the practice of finding it will help us to find nearer and nearer ecosystems, until one day we find the New Earth.

I believe that when Earth becomes unlivable the human race will simply die out, and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

Even if (and it's a very, very big 'if') we find a habitable planet a relatively short distance (100 light years) away, getting there alive and colonizing would prove difficult to the point of near impossibility.

We'd have to be talking a ship that could support life for multiple generations. The energy requirements would be enormous, and something as simple as carrying enough water would be a challenge.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 01:56 PM (SY2Kh)

155 Do like we've always done. Penal Colony.


Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 01:50 PM (d0Dmj)


****

Umm, you spelled that wrong.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 01:56 PM (MKpBT)

156 Muslim Cab Drivers At Cleveland Airport Refuse To Drive Cabs With Advertisement For Gay Games… http://shar.es/TjWJf
Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (ZPrif)

Gay games?Is Butt Jousting an event?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 01:56 PM (DrWcr)

157 Their water's frozen?
So global warming climate change has already screwed over another planet! I'll bet they're pissed at us.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 18, 2014 01:56 PM (pgQxn)

158 The freaking planet is 500 light years away. We are probably (as a
race/planet) never going to get there to see. So who cares? Why is this
being reported? Why is research being done on this? What benefit does it
have? How does this expand our knowledge to aid or protect us in the
universe?
=========
At the end of the day, we can't undertake interstellar travel if there are no "way stations" or reasons to go.
Think if Columbus had been right, and there were no "Americas." They would have been dead long before they reached India. And if there were no India, he never would have tried.

That's 1.

The second is, this gives us a reason to come up with a faster-than-light way to "travel."

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 18, 2014 01:56 PM (VjL9S)

159
MANY non-negotiable criteria that go into making the earth suitable for life.

Eh. There's life and there's life. We used to believe that photosynthesis was the essential first building block of food-chain life. Then we found deep sea vents where specialized bacteria metabolize sulpher and form the basis for life.

And fish that look like Dr. Seuss drew them.

We don't have to find an 80/20 N/O atmosphere and a planet revolving on a 27% axis to find life. There's a great book called "At Home in the Universe" that goes through how atoms like to bond with each other in patterns that lead to life. His subtext is "we, the expected". The laws of the universe as we understand them are designed to produce life.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 01:57 PM (JtwS4)

160 It used to be habitable, but the stupid Venusians fucked up their environment with all of their SUVs.

Posted by: rickl at April 18, 2014 01:55 PM (zoehZ)


F'n cloud people....

Posted by: Carson of Venus at April 18, 2014 01:57 PM (84gbM)

161 I believe that when Earth becomes unlivable the human race will simply die out, and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

*********

Well that's pretty circular.

I think you just scored on yourself.

Posted by: tasker at April 18, 2014 01:57 PM (RJMhd)

162 110 Can we name it Vulcan?



or Kronos?



Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2014 01:40 PM (9lyhM)



Gothos.



Posted by: Gen Trelaine, Ret. at April 18, 2014 01:48 PM (tE3uo)





Gor!

Posted by: Carl Talbot at April 18, 2014 01:52 PM (84gbM)



Cue the scantily-clad slave girls in shackles...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 01:57 PM (4df7R)

163 Mars had a much thicker atmosphere in the past,
which may have allowed for liquid water, but that atmosphere eroded over
time for unknown reasons, the leading hypothesis being that Mars' lack
of a robust and consistent magnetic field allowed the solar wind to blow
most of the atmosphere into space.



Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at April 18, 2014 01:42 PM (6T8Ay)


It was CFCs, man!

Posted by: EcoTard at April 18, 2014 01:58 PM (vn9w4)

164 153 How close is this to Uranus?

Not close enough sweetie!

Posted by: Bawny Fwank at April 18, 2014 01:58 PM (pgQxn)

165 "The planet orbits a red dwarf"

Life!

Lister, Rimmer, Kryten and the Cat.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 18, 2014 01:58 PM (noWW6)

166 And We Shall Call This Planet Barack!
Lifegiver! Hope for our future!

Posted by: MSNBC at April 18, 2014 01:58 PM (IdOTf)

167 Recent analysis of asteroids and meteors has changed that a bit. It now
appears that a good deal of waters was bound in the initial coalescing
material. In fact the Earth and other bodies have a great deal of water
locked in the rocks.



Does that include the surface water? Did it all geyser its way up to the surface?

I like the comet-water theory better. It makes me feel more exotic, like Elizabeth Warren.


Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 01:58 PM (i5GO4)

168 We son't need to move faster than light. We need to fold space. Space is malleable, gravity deforms it. With enough energy we might be able to fold it and travel a short distance to cross the galaxy.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (xWW96)

169
7 We are all future Keplerians.

Or maybe we're actually exiles?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (1hM1d)

170 Mars had a much thicker atmosphere in the past,

which may have allowed for liquid water, but that atmosphere eroded over

time for unknown reasons,



Cow farts.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (d0Dmj)

171 We have just folded space from Kepler 186. Many machines on Kepler 186.

Posted by: Third-Stage Guild Navigator at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (DrWcr)

172 How about Rick?



Nobody ever names planets Rick.


Planet Rick.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (8w6pW)

173 We son't need to move faster than light. We need to
fold space. Space is malleable, gravity deforms it. With enough energy
we might be able to fold it and travel a short distance to cross the
galaxy.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (xWW96)

*rewatches "Event Horizon*


Posted by: EC at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (GQ8sn)

174 "We'd have to be talking a ship that could support life for multiple generations. The energy requirements would be enormous, and something as simple as carrying enough water would be a challenge."

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 18, 2014 01:56 PM (SY2Kh)


Or we make a ship that travels at 500 light years per hour. That way, we could be back for lunch.

Posted by: jwest at April 18, 2014 02:00 PM (u2a4R)

175 By the time you grunts get here we will have unwittingly ruined our Ozone.

Posted by: Kepler 186 Chick, Holding an Aerosol Can at April 18, 2014 02:00 PM (32Ze2)

176 No. Ballard said they were puzzled by seeing hundreds of pairs of boots, until he realized that tanned leather was the only thing left after 70 years.
Posted by: Chris 18, 2014 01:32 PM (5xmd7)


But that is clothing -- not flesh or bone.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 02:00 PM (8c12T)

177 Cabbies aren't objecting to participating in a religious ceremony like the Christian baker.

They are objecting to having an ad that supports the despicable sin (according to their religion) of homosexuality.

These aren't gays getting married. These are gays playing volleyball and saying, hey, being gay is ok, come watch us play volleyball! No religious ceremonies.

The cabbies are objecting not just to gay marriage, but to homosexuality in general.

And cabs, like other means of transportation, have long been part of common carrier laws. The anti-discrimination laws that apply to common carriers are much more strict than a normal job.

The legal case against them should be easy peasy.

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 18, 2014 02:00 PM (ZPrif)

178 Someone Call John Creighton. He knows all about worm holes and shortcuts across the universe.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 02:01 PM (IdOTf)

179
Nobody ever names planets Rick.





Planet Rick.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (8w6pW)


Yeah, but then incompetent office lackeys would invariably misspell all the mail sent to the new planet as mail for "Planet Dick."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:01 PM (4df7R)

180 >>>There have been a whole lot of other factors which have come to light indicating that getting a habitable planet is not so easy as Carl Sagan insinuated it was.


I have a theory about this.

I think Sagan got on the "Global Warming is Real You Guys!!!" partly because of his pre-existing optimistic bias about the relative *ease* with which Venus could be teraformed.

If you are a Terraforming Optimist, you assume that it's relatively easy to kick a planet in one direction or the other with relatively trivial inputs. You add a tiny amount of graphite (or something) to Venus' atmosphere, it sucks up CO2, which in turn lowers the temperature, which in turn allows CO2 to be held by some rocks, which in turn lowers the temperature, which in turn allows CO2 to be held by more rocks, which lowers the temperature, which allows CO2 to dissolve into a liquid ocean, which lowers the temperature, until, based upon our trivial contribution to Venus, Venus becomes a sauna-like but still very livable earth.

Once his theory on the ease of transforming Venus was disproven, he moved on to Plan B, which was Mars. I'm not sure here but I'm thinking he also lowballed the amount of effort it would take to kick Mars into a greenhouse gas crisis in the other direction.

So, for Venus, he postulated that a small change would result in a catastrophically good greenhouse gas crisis (moving towards cooler temperatures), for Mars, another catastrophically good greenhouse gas crisis (but towards warmer temperatures).

In both cases he assumed that it would just take a rather meager amount of human intervention to drastically change the planets' climes.

Now, if he's thinking like that, he must think that also applies to *Earth* -- a trivial amount of human intervention must also send Earth's CO2 equilibrium into a tizzy, whether towards cold temperatures (NEW ICE AGE!!!) or hot ones (GLOBAL WARMING WILL KILL US ALL!!!).

Anyway, he seems to have clung to this notion that very small disturbances in the CO2 cycle would have enormous vicious (or virtuous) cycle impacts and fundamentally remake a planet's hydrosphere.

Posted by: ace at April 18, 2014 02:01 PM (/FnUH)

181 And cabs, like other means of transportation, have long been part of
common carrier laws. The anti-discrimination laws that apply to common
carriers are much more strict than a normal job.



The legal case against them should be easy peasy.




Until the first head gets sawed off.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 02:01 PM (d0Dmj)

182 Yeah, but then incompetent office lackeys would
invariably misspell all the mail sent to the new planet as mail for
"Planet Dick."


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:01 PM (4df7R)


"I need to get there, NOW!"

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (GQ8sn)

183 But that is clothing -- not flesh or bone.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 02:00 PM (8c12T)


Technically leather IS flesh.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (4df7R)

184 Neat! We need to get on that colonization thing when we have a chance. Preferably outside of our galaxy.

Posted by: Lea at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (lIU4e)

185 Wait why do those cab drivers get to say they won't carry a gay games ad as a "personal decision" but photographers and bakers can't make the same decision?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (RZ8pf)

186 Yeah, but then incompetent office lackeys would invariably misspell all the mail sent to the new planet as mail for "Planet Dick."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:01 PM (4df7R)

Fire up the rockets, I'm ready to ride!

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (DrWcr)

187 If you are a Terraforming Optimist, ...


Shit, I'm not even a Live-to-See-2015 Optimist, at the rate we're going.

Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (i5GO4)

188 185 Wait why do those cab drivers get to say they won't carry a gay games ad as a "personal decision" but photographers and bakers can't make the same decision?
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (RZ8pf)

Because Islam > ghey > unpeople from Jesusland

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 02:03 PM (DrWcr)

189 The freaking planet is 500 light years away. We are probably (as a
race/planet) never going to get there to see.
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Jut get Obama to issue an executive order that all automobiles sold in the US must go at least 500 million light years and hour and we'll be there by this weekend.

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 02:03 PM (XUKZU)

190 My granny was 1/64 Keplerian. Notice my high forehead and the long spindly green fingers.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 02:03 PM (MKpBT)

191 We'd have to be talking a ship that could support life for multiple generations. The energy requirements would be enormous, and something as simple as carrying enough water would be a challenge.

Another thing Sci Fi leaves out is the engines would have to have 100 years of running life. Hell...more than that.

Posted by: eleven at April 18, 2014 02:03 PM (8w6pW)

192 Jut get Obama to issue an executive order that all automobiles sold in the US must go at least 500 million light years and hour and we'll be there by this weekend.

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 02:03 PM (XUKZU)
_________________
Just make sure the tires are properly inflated.

Posted by: Kepler 186 Chick, Holding an Aerosol Can at April 18, 2014 02:04 PM (32Ze2)

193 After a trip of centuries in stasis, traveling at 99% of the speed of light, the Kepler-186f Expedition finally lands, conducts a complex and comprehensive series of experiments designed to find life.

Many months of painstaking and exhausting work later, the results are in: The planet can support carbon-based life-forms similar to those found on Earth, yet though Kepler-186f is nearly twice as old as Earth, the only trace of life is a single Methane (CH4) molecule. Methane of course is considered the simplest organic compound. A short discussion ensues:

Atheist Crew Member: "See, planets exist that can support life, thus definitively disproving the existence of a so-called 'god' as a necessary creator!"

Christian Crew Member: "See, though this planet has all of the necessary atmospheric components and is in the proper orbit and at the proper temperature, and has liquid water, nothing exits here that could be called organic except for a single, solitary molecule of Methane; thus definitively proving that God is necessary to create life!"

God chimes in: "Heh."

Posted by: Sharkman at April 18, 2014 02:04 PM (TM1p8)

194
We have just folded space from Kepler 186. Many machines on Kepler 186.
Posted by: Third-Stage Guild Navigator at April 18, 2014 01:59 PM (DrWcr)


Yes, but are they for sale?

Posted by: EcoTard at April 18, 2014 02:04 PM (vn9w4)

195
Wait why do those cab drivers get to say they won't carry a gay games ad
as a "personal decision" but photographers and bakers can't make the
same decision?



Because they tend to back it up with sharp steel and stuff that goes splodey.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2014 02:04 PM (d0Dmj)

196 Off, hippie sock!

Posted by: Country Singer at April 18, 2014 02:05 PM (vn9w4)

197 Hate to admit it but I just learned that the greek word for milk isaform of galaxy thus the milky way.

Posted by: polynikes at April 18, 2014 02:05 PM (m2CN7)

198 We'd have to be talking a ship that could support life for multiple
generations. The energy requirements would be enormous, and something as
simple as carrying enough water would be a challenge.






"Ship out of water. Better drink my own piss."


-Bear Grylles, Interplanetary Adventurer

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:05 PM (4df7R)

199 95
This is why we really need to get busy and design some sort of FTL drive.



I hate to break it to you, but...

Posted by: Zombie Albert Einstein at April 18, 2014 01:46
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In our day, it was undeniable scientific wisdom that man would never fly.

Posted by: Zombie Wright Brothers at April 18, 2014 02:05 PM (VjL9S)

200 I believe that when Earth becomes unlivable the human race will simply die out, and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

Even if (and it's a very, very big 'if') we find a habitable planet a relatively short distance (100 light years) away, getting there alive and colonizing would prove difficult to the point of near impossibility.

We'd have to be talking a ship that could support life for multiple generations. The energy requirements would be enormous, and something as simple as carrying enough water would be a challenge.
Posted by: Hollowpoint


Yes, we should give up and all die because something has enormous energy requirements and would be a "challenge."

"Getting that contraption in the air would be quite a challenge, Orville. Think of the energy requirements! You might as well give up now."

Think about where humanity was merely 200 years ago, prior to the industrial revolution.

And then think about were it is now, in a mere 200 years of advancement.

And the pace of advancement is accelerating, not slowing down.

Now imagine where we might be in another 200 years.

And then another 200 years after that.

And then in 2000 years.

Capabilities beyond our imagining are possible.

I could easily envision us in 4000AD being able to build spaceships that can accelerate to .9 the speed of light; huge spaceships loaded with 500 years of food and fuel; and sending out hundreds of them t the nearest Kepler 186s around us, filled with volunteers willing to live and die and have kids that live and die and grandkids that live and die on the ship until eventually their great-great-great grandkids arrive at the planet.

And yes, when tey get there, 99% of the time, the planet will be uninhabitable, and they'll all perish. But one, just one, might find a New Earth, and be able to colonize, and the human race continues.

What does it hurt to try?

Posted by: zombie at April 18, 2014 02:05 PM (mizYg)

201 Meanwhile, waiting for a lane at the NRA HQ Range.

This is a nice facility, as one might expect.

Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2014 02:05 PM (0/15I)

202 Technically leather IS flesh.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (4df7R)


We were discussing human remains - not leather.

Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (8c12T)

203
speaking of terraforming...

anyone else surprised there'll be a season 2 of Defiance?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (9lyhM)

204
I have a feeling the aoshq ship to kepler dash numbers would be a lot like SpaceBalls.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (BrAHD)

205 I hope Kepler 186-f had dinosaurs at one point so that oil exists there. And none of this deep formations either. Just bubbling up through the ground, perhaps only needing a slight perforation like from a squirrel gun held by a man out hunting for food. Black Gold. Texas Tea.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (BAS5M)

206 Just in time for the holidays:

Obama Sits Next To Former Planned Parenthood Director At White House Easter Prayer Breakfast…

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (XUKZU)

207 The thing about traveling at near light speed is that if it takes you 50 years to accelerate to 99% LS, it will also take you 50 years to slow down.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 02:07 PM (xWW96)

208
I am reluctant to start a theological flame war on Good Friday, so I will simply ask a naïve question and accept the responses:

Why is the belief in Life on Earth Only important to some Christians? What's wrong with God letting other kinds of critters cavort on other kinds of planets?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 18, 2014 02:07 PM (JtwS4)

209 The thing about traveling at near light speed is
that if it takes you 50 years to accelerate to 99% LS, it will also take
you 50 years to slow down.

Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 02:07 PM (xWW96)


Jumping to light speed ain't like dusting crops, boy!


Posted by: Han Solo at April 18, 2014 02:07 PM (GQ8sn)

210 Cue the scantily-clad slave girls in shackles...
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 01:57 PM (4df7R)


They can be anything you want. We'll fix it up for ya. Give us a call!

Posted by: Talos IV at April 18, 2014 02:08 PM (tE3uo)

211 "Step 2 to finding an earthlike planet will be that it has a moon similar to ours as well."

To be truly earthlike, it would have to have hordes of moonbats similiar to ours that are intent on destroying their own civilization

Posted by: Adolf Hitler at April 18, 2014 02:08 PM (Vv4Go)

212 Call me crazy, but I don't think God's going to let us export our depravity to the rest of the galaxy before He returns to lay down the law.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 18, 2014 02:08 PM (9LuAk)

213 hey!

if we levy a property tax on the planet, we can take care of the deficit AND fully fund Obamacare!!!!!!!!!!!!

talk about a win/win...

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 18, 2014 02:08 PM (q+fqH)

214
The energy requirements would be enormous, and something as

simple as carrying enough water would be a challenge.


pffft. We'll just ask the Federal Reserve to create it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 02:08 PM (BrAHD)

215 Good Friday, a state holiday in NC.

Costco, "we always close on holidays for our employees".

Open.

I guess Christian holiday's don't count.

You would think a nice Jewish company would have a little more respect. They are closed on Easter.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 18, 2014 02:08 PM (0FSuD)

216
Obama Sits Next To Former Planned Parenthood Director At White House Easter Prayer Breakfast…

When will you social cons shutup about social issues?!?!?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 18, 2014 02:08 PM (9lyhM)

217 The thing about traveling at near light speed is

that if it takes you 50 years to accelerate to 99% LS, it will also take

you 50 years to slow down.



Posted by: maddogg at April 18, 2014 02:07 PM (xWW96)

Jumping to light speed ain't like dusting crops, boy!




Posted by: Han Solo at April 18, 2014 02:07 PM (GQ8sn)



"What the HELL was that?"

"Spaceball One."

"They've gone to plaid!."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:09 PM (4df7R)

218 202 Technically leather IS flesh. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:02 PM (4df7R) We were discussing human remains - not leather.
Posted by: Chief Pug at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (8c12T)

Ahem.

Posted by: Books in the Harvard library bound in human skin at April 18, 2014 02:09 PM (DrWcr)

219 Where the ice-comets got the water in the first place I couldn't tell you.
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Very, very common in the universe. All elements and compounds are, when you think about it.

IIRC nebula are chock-full of water molecules. And, as with any galaxy, this area was a nebula at one time.

Posted by: Zombie Wright Brothers at April 18, 2014 02:09 PM (VjL9S)

220 Moons aren't optional. You need one to stabilize the climate. If we didn't have one, the weather extremes would be too volatile to support human life.

Posted by: Fen at April 18, 2014 02:09 PM (cYpak)

221 204

I have a feeling the aoshq ship to kepler dash numbers would be a lot like SpaceBalls.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (BrAHD)


Unfortunately, I think it'd be more like The Ice Pirates.

Posted by: Phinn at April 18, 2014 02:09 PM (i5GO4)

222 "No. Ballard said they were puzzled by seeing hundreds of pairs of boots, until he realized that tanned leather was the only thing left after 70 years.
Posted by: Chris 18, 2014 01:32 PM (5xmd7)

But that is clothing -- not flesh or bone.

Right. There's no human remains visible from the Titanic. All the shoes point out is where they came to rest.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 18, 2014 02:09 PM (5xmd7)

223 I'm afraid no one will be making any claims on Kepler 186. We already own all the land on it.


Posted by: Nevada Bureau of Land Managment at April 18, 2014 02:10 PM (GQ8sn)

224 206 Just in time for the holidays: Obama Sits Next To Former Planned Parenthood Director At White House Easter Prayer Breakfast…
Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (XUKZU)

Nothing says "He is Risen" better than celebrating wholesale infant slaughter!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 02:10 PM (DrWcr)

225
damnit, I forgot my symbol

§

I'm Soothsayer.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 02:10 PM (9lyhM)

226 "Why is the belief in Life on Earth Only important to some Christians?
What's wrong with God letting other kinds of critters cavort on other
kinds of planets?"

i wasn't aware this was a theological problem...

but then again, i gave up being Catholic for Lent one year, so i may not be the sin qua non of insight on the issue

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 18, 2014 02:10 PM (q+fqH)

227 In the stepwise ongoing journey of human progress wouldn't it make sense to invent a toilet that can flush a B.M. in less then three attempts before we conquer travel at or near the speed of light?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 02:10 PM (MKpBT)

228 >>Obama Sits Next To Former Planned Parenthood Director At White House Easter Prayer Breakfast…


,,,,and asked controversial Episcopal bishop Gene Robinson to deliver the closing prayer. He can't NOT stick his finger in Christians' eyes at every opportunity.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 18, 2014 02:10 PM (IdOTf)

229 206 Just in time for the holidays: Obama Sits Next To Former Planned Parenthood Director At White House Easter Prayer Breakfast…

Posted by: Walrus Rex at April 18, 2014 02:06 PM (XUKZU)



Nothing says "He is Risen" better than celebrating wholesale infant slaughter!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2014 02:10 PM (DrWcr)



It's in Obammy's blood to celebrate the wholesale slaughter of the innocent. It's Herod-itary.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 18, 2014 02:11 PM (4df7R)

230 I hear they have a Keystone pipeline in Kepler 186.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 18, 2014 02:11 PM (R5UOB)

231 OBTW- I gave up picking my bellybutton for lint.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 18, 2014 02:11 PM (MKpBT)

232
So, are there already people on this Kreplach?

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 18, 2014 02:11 PM (9lyhM)