We Are All In The "Let It Burn" Camp

We got an interesting question for the mailbag this week that I'm going to steal for this post. I'm not entirely sure it's theft since it was directed to me and I may not make this week's recording so I'll give it a go here.

For Drew: When are you going to go join Red State w/ the let-it-burn crowd?-Jumble

First, thanks for writing in Jumble.

Second, there's no need to leave for Red State or anywhere else to join the "Let-it-burn crowd" because it's everywhere.

Note the actual phrase begins with "let". It's a passive word. No one is saying "Start a fire and burn it down". It is burning already.

Out of control entitlement spending, zero political will to control discretionary spending and an unchecked debt is the fuel that is feeding this fire.

You want to know who is actively fanning the flames of this fire? Mainstream Republican candidates and office holders, not tea party fanatics or people who simply have lost interest in trying to stop the conflagration.

In fact, it's these "grown ups" who are so darn "electable" that are actively doing something....putting more fuel on the fire.

The Budget Control Act which led to the sequester was imperfect to say the least but it actually worked to cut spending. Who forced the Republicans to give that up and hike spending again? It wasn't the so-called "let it burn crowd". Nope, it was the mainstream of the Republican party.

Was it the so-called "let it burn crowd" that forced the GOP to cut a deal with Maxine Waters to give back modest but real reforms and cuts to the national flood insurance program? Nope. That was the House GOP leadership going around conservatives.

Was it the so-called "let it burn crowd" who resorting to anti-democratic means on the floor of the House to increase Medicare spending? Again, no.

Obviously I could go on and on with examples of this but I think we all agree we're in a mess that predates the "tea party" or "let it burn".

I know there are people who think if you vote for enough Republicans things will get better because, um, er, the Democrats are worse! A vote for more "mainstream" Republicans isn't a vote against the "let it burn crowd" it's a vote to control how much faster you want it to burn.

Until people realize that with the GOP as presently constituted stopping the increase in the rate of burning, let alone putting the fire out isn't on the menu and nothing will change.

So don't look at those of us who have washed our hands of this mess as the ones unwilling to stop the burning. We tried and were told to shut up. You guys who insist on voting for the GOP which will add more fuel to the fire are the ones who are grunting "fire good!", not us.


Added: An enlightening but wrong view from a commenter.

Yeah, pretty much everything Drew said is childish bullshit.

Adults have to make the best of a bad situation. Adults have to muddle through and make least-bad decisions.

Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children.

Just don't expect praise for your childish bullshit.
Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)

My response:

Actually you have that exactly backwards.

Adults can tell children that things are bad for them (as conservatives are telling the GOP and the country that out of control spending will lead to disaster) but children won't listen.

Sometimes children will only learn by example and doing. In this case you will spend you way into oblivion by insisting that spending more but not as much as Democrats is an actual solution.

You will learn but like a child touching a hot stove after being told not to, you will have to be burned first.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (r5Qcm)

Posted by: DrewM. at 11:02 AM



Comments

1 1st

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 24, 2014 11:05 AM (jsWA8)

2
So don't look at those of us who have washed our hands of this mess as the ones unwilling to stop the burning. We tried and were told to shut up. You guys who insist on voting for the GOP which will add more fuel to the fire are the ones who are grunting "fire good!", not us.

Testify, Brother Drew!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 24, 2014 11:05 AM (HsTG8)

3 fuck...

Profound, well stated, and nothing to add...

I am not the one setting the fires....

I am just done blowing out the matches.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:06 AM (TE35l)

4 The wackos are the people who believe the GOP is above-board and doing their best to advance a conservative agenda.

Intricate conspiracy theories are necessary to explain the GOP's actions if you buy that.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (UyYYt)

5 Yeah, pretty much everything Drew said is childish bullshit.

Adults have to make the best of a bad situation. Adults have to muddle through and make least-bad decisions.

Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children.

Just don't expect praise for your childish bullshit.

Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)

6
I am not the one setting the fires....

I am just done blowing out the matches.


Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:06 AM (TE35l) ^^ This ^^

I don't want it to burn, but I tried to put out the fire and was told to pound sand.Roger that.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does NOT speak for the Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General at April 24, 2014 11:08 AM (fwARV)

7
The only thing that's burning right now is the GOP, and nobody sees the flames.

The Senate D's are in trouble!
Tsunami. November.

My ass.


Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:09 AM (aqrfx)

8 COME ON WITH IT. PREACH.

Posted by: MDH3 at April 24, 2014 11:09 AM (GKyUC)

9 We didn't start the fire!

Posted by: Billy Joel at April 24, 2014 11:09 AM (JtwS4)

10 Did the Budget Control Act cut spending, or did it reduce the rate of growth?

Either way, yeah, the RINOs are putting the nitromethane on the fire.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 24, 2014 11:09 AM (L02KD)

11 5 Yeah, pretty much everything Drew said is childish bullshit.

There you have it: worrying about out of control spending is childish bullshit.

Adults max out their credit cards.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (UyYYt)

12 Oh the political clime is frightful
And the fascists think it's delightful
'Cause we've got nowhere to turn,
Let it burn, let it burn, let it burn!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (DrWcr)

13 Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)

Actually you have that exactly backwards.

Adults can tell children that things are bad for them (as conservatives are telling the GOP and the country that out of control spending will lead to disaster) but children won't listen.

Sometimes children will only learn by example and doing. In this case you will spend you way into oblivion by insisting that spending more but not as much as Democrats is an actual solution.

You will learn but like a child touching a hot stove after being told not to, you will have to be burned first.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (r5Qcm)

14 There you have it: worrying about out of control spending is childish bullshit. Adults max out their credit cards.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (UyYYt)

And then lie about it.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:11 AM (DrWcr)

15 So don't look at those of us who have washed our hands of this mess as the ones unwilling to stop the burning. We tried and were told to shut up.


Yep.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 11:11 AM (uVkIH)

16 When everybody votes to jump off a cliff, only children whine about it. Adults take the plunge.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:11 AM (UyYYt)

17 5 Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)

Happy voting.

Boning up on your Spanish yet?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:11 AM (TE35l)

18 5 Yeah, pretty much everything Drew said is childish bullshit.

Adults have to make the best of a bad situation. Adults have to muddle through and make least-bad decisions.

Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children.

Just don't expect praise for your childish bullshit.
Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)

Fear and anger posing as maturity.

Posted by: eman at April 24, 2014 11:11 AM (AO9UG)

19 Yeah, lighting ourselves on fire is a bad idea, but we lost the vote. Don't be a child.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:12 AM (UyYYt)

20
Cliven Bundy, it seems to me, was inarticulately and roughly assessing the damage imposed upon the American Blacks by their own government trying to "help" them.

But, he's now a racist and everyone on the Right will do what they do best when the Left's PC protocols are broken: run for cover.

Don't be pussies.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:12 AM (aqrfx)

21 I see the so-called "Adult" has nothing but name calling.

Seems rather childish.

Posted by: Blake at April 24, 2014 11:12 AM (HBuxY)

22 Ya gotta love these threads for the ignore_user harvest.

Posted by: DaveA at April 24, 2014 11:13 AM (DL2i+)

23 I just posted on last thread. I'll repost.

Millionaire Obama donor brutally (read the story) beats girlfriend (all caught on video).

= 25 hrs comm. service

http://tinyurl.com/n7sz5ju

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 24, 2014 11:13 AM (XvrTA)

24 23 Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 24, 2014 11:13 AM (XvrTA)

Equal Justice Under Law is for pussies....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (TE35l)

25 My Theme Song.

Posted by: John Boehner at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (tiq4t)

26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjMfeature=kp

Posted by: John Boehner at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (tiq4t)

27 I see the so-called "Adult" has nothing but name calling.

Seems rather childish.



Bossy.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (uVkIH)

28 An Adult is someone who has never posted here before or is a coward hiding behind a new hash.

Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (LI48c)

29 23 I just posted on last thread. I'll repost. Millionaire Obama donor brutally (read the story) beats girlfriend (all caught on video). = 25 hrs comm. service http://tinyurl.com/n7sz5ju
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 24, 2014 11:13 AM (XvrTA)

There really are two Americas.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (DrWcr)

30 Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:12 AM (aqrfx)


I'm not going to abandon Cliven Bundy. If he goes down, I will eventually.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (UyYYt)

31 Don't worry, the fire isn't all that big anyway. We can put it out at any time. We just...don't want to right now. It keeps us warm.

Posted by: Vox.com at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (oATMN)

32 Yeah, lighting ourselves on fire is a bad idea, but we lost the vote. Don't be a child.

Troll reminds me of SCOAMF blaming the GOP for the problems in Obamacare. "We locked you out of the entire process, but WAAAAH! WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE IT BETTER?!?!"

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 11:15 AM (ZKzrr)

33 You will learn but like a child touching a hot stove after being told not to, you will have to be burned first.

For some of us this was a tedious process.

I wonder if Boehner knows where that's from.

Posted by: DaveA at April 24, 2014 11:15 AM (DL2i+)

34 *sets up lawn chair, grabs bowl of popcorn*

You were saying?.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth (@Teresa_Koch) at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (PZ6/M)

35 Because it burns us as well. We aren't inoculated from the liberals' shitty policies.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (LiHKo)

36 Our so-called adult up there is too cowardly to reveal a name, even within the relative anonymity of the AosHQ. I am sure it is a regular.

Dude, you are pouting because you know we're serious. We're not going to vote for your stupid party this time.

Hold your breath all you want, it's not going to work this time.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (qUnw/)

37 Adults have to make the best of a bad situation. Adults have to muddle through and make least-bad decisions.

Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children.

Just don't expect praise for your childish bullshit.
Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)

srsly Those adults are leaving the mess to everyone else to pay for and 'The children.'
Those adults are not representing their voters, Those adults are taking a backseat ride without even yelling out the cliff we are all heading for.

Those adults have stronger words for Their constituents then Those Progressives that are threatening the financial livelihood and future of Our society.
Thos adults that sit back and let the progressives swarm on our private lives and bank accts.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (nqBYe)

38 32 Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 11:15 AM (ZKzrr)

The Tinkerbell generation of US Politicians...

"wahh our bullshit would have flown if you'd just clapped"

//Idiots

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (TE35l)

39 Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children.



Just don't expect praise for your childish bullshit.

Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)

Oh, so the "adult" thing to do is toss more wood on the fire. Got it.

Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (p7BzH)

40 I come here for the Drews above anything. Excellent post as usual. May I suggest Enjoy the Decline by Clarey. This Atlas has shrugged after 25 years in business and loss of most of my contract work because of fear of Obamacare.

Posted by: Valiant at April 24, 2014 11:17 AM (LERVF)

41
You will learn but like a child touching a hot stove after being told not to, you will have to be burned first.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (r5Qcm)


I was thinking the guy to which you are responding was doing some sort of parody or sarcasm. I simply can't wrap my mind around the idea that he is offering his honest opinion.


It's just too hard to accept that someone could be that stupid.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:17 AM (bb5+k)

42 those adults ,
yeah i thought adults took responsibity.
guess not.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 11:17 AM (nqBYe)

43 Mornin' Horde-lings!

Speaking of Let it Burn...apparently in Oregon, electricity is people, cue the Heston clips. They are getting electricity from a group burning fetal tissue as waste. Our own OregonMuse, and other Oregon Morons hardest hit.

We live in frightening times.

Posted by: LizLem at April 24, 2014 11:17 AM (yRwC8)

44 Kinda like the Islam Vs America thing. The NYT has coverage of the shooting at a Western private hospital. A quote from the piece:
The Taliban did not claim responsibility for the attack, raising the possibility that the gunman was part of a growing class of Afghans disenchanted with the presence of Americans in the country. Bitterness has spilled into the narrative about the American presence here, as fears about the military withdrawal and its attendant uncertainty grow.
So, according to the two Muslim reporters, Afghans are shooting Americans (Westerners) because they are there and also because they are leaving. The GOPe wants lockstep votes and wants the Tea Party to fight for conservative principles as long as the Tea Party has no power and doesn't fight for conservative principles.
BTW the GOPe is a peaceful party that wants to coexist with small government.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 24, 2014 11:18 AM (+1NBs)

45 Adults have to make the best of a bad situation. Adults have to muddle through and make least-bad decisions.
Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children. Just don't expect praise for your childish bullshit. Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)


When have you "adults" ever stood up to the dog-eating crackhead in the White House? Seems to me you're the ones running away as fast as you can, sugar tits. Real adults would have articles of impeachment on Barky's desk.

And, last but not least, fuck you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:18 AM (zF6Iw)

46 Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children

Who wants to place odds on this poster ever coming back to comment again.

Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 11:18 AM (LI48c)

47 those adults?
that stand for little but winning the next election.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 11:18 AM (nqBYe)

48 Cliven Bundy, it seems to me, was inarticulately and roughly assessing the damage imposed upon the American Blacks by their own government trying to "help" them.

I'm inclined toward this view as well. However, it doesn't change the fact that he stepped on his dick, and gave fuel to a narrative that he and by extension all his supporters are nothing more than a bunch of racist retrogrades who want to put black people in chains.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:18 AM (DrWcr)

49
You will learn but like a child touching a hot stove after being told not to, you will have to be burned first.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (r5Qcm)




As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;




http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:19 AM (bb5+k)

50
With my best Don Quixote plume streaming from my cap:

This is why the job of libertarians is to move the Overton Window. Neither Dems nor Reps in power will do anything to restrain Leviathan.

We need to get people, ofwhatever affiliation, persuaded that liberty is a good thing. Economic liberty is a good thing which also works. Personal liberty is a good thing which empowers.

Government spending money my children haven't earned yet and destroying their chances to do so is not a good thing. Government agencies empowered to micromanage all human activity and enforce fiat with military tactics is not a good thing.

And so on.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 11:19 AM (JtwS4)

51 As you say, I am about done with the Republican Party. Why? They have consistently done everything they can do to piss off the conservative base. They do not want us in the Party.


I can now see why Jim DeMint resigned and went to Heritage. Being on the inside he saw this coming.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 11:19 AM (T2V/1)

52 "Yeah, pretty much everything Drew said is childish bullshit.
Adults have to make the best of a bad situation. Adults have to muddle through and make least-bad decisions.
Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children.
Just don't expect praise for your childish bullshit.
Posted by: An adult at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (S6HUO)"
This guy is so right. Nothing says "adult" like continuing to stand by the alkie as he keeps hitting the bottle, accepting his protestations that nothing is wrong, while being happy its just one liter a night and not two.
Refusing to enable such behavior is in fact childish. Absolutely.

Posted by: That Guy at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (sAg1K)

53
We Didn't Start the Fire

http://youtu.be/eFTLKWw542g

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (kdS6q)

54 As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire; http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm
Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:19 AM (bb5+k)

Gods of the Copybook Headingsand Dane-Geld are my two favorite poems of all time.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (DrWcr)

55 But, he's now a racist and everyone on the Right will do what they do best when the Left's PC protocols are broken: run for cover. Don't be pussies.
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:12 AM (aqrfx)


I don't give a fuck whether Bundy starts channeling Biden and screams he wants to put the coloreds back in chains. Bundy is not the issue! The fucking issue is an out of control, overreaching federal government which has no business doing what it is doing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (zF6Iw)

56 I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm sick and tired of being the beaten housewife in this political relationship. "The GOPe loves me. I know they love me. If I just did what they told me to do quicker, without complaint, they wouldn't hit me anymore. Right? They need me. I know they need me. They tell me over and over again that they need me. I can't leave them when they need me. Who will take care of them? They'll be on the street, jobless, without me in the background keeping them fed and watered and paid and elected. They NEED me. I just have to show them that I love them and they'll stop hurting me. I know they will. They NEED me."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (4df7R)

57 What is wrong with you that you won't stop me from cutting off my dick & feeding it to a rat?

Posted by: A tiny, young adult at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (MbqmP)

58 (...and this is why American lesbians do AI instead of adopting American babies. http://is.gd/LZMY0G )

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 11:21 AM (ZKzrr)

59 I "went Galt" near the beginning of Zero's "Presidency." Federal taxes paid over the past 4 years: $0. I guess I'm not really in the "let it burn" camp, since I have some vulnerability (stock, bond, and housing markets). I guess I'm in the "let THEM burn" camp, referring to the left's core constituencies (the poor, the young, minorities), who have been absolutely hammered by Zero's policies and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Money, Mouth, Where at April 24, 2014 11:21 AM (yhJhK)

60 Spot on with the rebuttal. The only problem I have with "let it burn" (which I've been feeling since the 90s) is that there doesn't seem to be any plan/consensus of what to do when it all burns down. I'm not looking forward to the Interregnum but we need it desperately.

Posted by: aka.john at April 24, 2014 11:21 AM (dG6mV)

61 You can't stop people voting for "free" stuff. We had a good run.

Posted by: brak at April 24, 2014 11:21 AM (M2qTM)

62 35 Because it burns us as well. We aren't inoculated from the liberals' shitty policies.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (LiHKo)


If we are using our better judgement, we are more inoculated from it than are they.


I know i've been working to become independent of the existing financial system. I'm sure there are plenty of people here who are likewise trying to go Galt and off the "grid."


The "grid" is going to burn, and it's probably going to start with finances and devalued currency.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:22 AM (bb5+k)

63
Cliven Bundy said the magic 'code' words: "picking cotton" and "negro"

It should be irrelevant that these arbitrary words and phrases are on some cockamamie list invented by our political enemies, nay, our republic's enemy, the Left.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:22 AM (aqrfx)

64 55 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (zF6Iw)

our side is so wrapped up in the left's double bind media noise machine it has forgotten uh guys those are real monsters we face.

We're doomed to lose MP4 but we can't overcome it and have a good time on the way to perdition...

if I am to blame for Bundy's flaws Ezra Klein needs to explain why he uses baby bodies for fuel.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:23 AM (TE35l)

65 The election of Lincoln relegated the Whigs to the dustbin of history in one election. If we could get a viable candidate who could draw the rational thinkers and take the heart right out of the middle, we could do the same with the Republican party - and possibly the Democrat party all at once. Kill the establishment parties in one election.

And despite what so many think, there is a relatively large segment who vote left and who really aren't lefties. They vote that way because they were born into it, or their circle of friends votes that way. But they are as fed up as we are.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 11:23 AM (BZAd3)

66 Because it burns us as well. We aren't inoculated from the liberals' shitty policies.

*blows whistle, bangs pots and points toward nic*

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 24, 2014 11:23 AM (0HooB)

67 "61 You can't stop people voting for "free" stuff. We had a good run."

Switzerland has. It might be the last place on Earth with proper citizens in the republican tradition.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 24, 2014 11:23 AM (LiHKo)

68 46 -

Oh, he'll be back. He has to change his ip/hashtag, but he will be back. I have a short list of suspects. I am sure you do too.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2014 11:24 AM (qUnw/)

69 because i'm an adult Republican in Leadership , I do not have to do one damn thing to Help the country's survival , I as an adult, only have to sit idly by, hanging out , getting my share of deals that will fall into my lap if i help further the cause of the Progressives. as An Adult, i have no responsibilty to those that put there trust in me to proetct the future rights of my own constituents. as An Adult, i have no responsibilty that I'm a good steward of the constitution or bill of rights.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 11:24 AM (nqBYe)

70 This just in: Hillary Clinton deserves the presidency because she’s going to be a grandmother.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair, stuck in a dentist office with The View at April 24, 2014 11:24 AM (HrUMd)

71 their

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 11:24 AM (nqBYe)

72 I'm not going to abandon Cliven Bundy. If he goes down, I will eventually.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:14 AM (UyYYt)

I think it is more like:

I'm not going to abandon Cliven Bundy. IfWhen he goes down, I so will the rest of us, eventually.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 24, 2014 11:24 AM (o3MSL)

73 Fire good!

Posted by: Proglodytes in the GOPe at April 24, 2014 11:24 AM (nbGZj)

74 One of the biggest problems I foresee is that the Progs might be able to
keep things burning but not collapsing for quite a long while... Further and further impoverishing us while they rake in the graft.

Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 11:24 AM (p7BzH)

75
Speaking of Let it Burn...apparently in Oregon, electricity is people, cue the Heston clips. They are getting electricity from a group burning fetal tissue as waste. Our own OregonMuse, and other Oregon Morons hardest hit.

We live in frightening times.

Posted by: LizLem at April 24, 2014 11:17 AM (yRwC


Perhaps they should start a lampshade side line.


Utterly disgusting.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:25 AM (bb5+k)

76
Good post Drew. And I would add its more like the GOP Estabs acting like children of the super rich who think they can do anything they want and daddy govt will bail them out. Well daddy govt is going bankrupt.



On the other hand, friends in high places help:

http://tinyurl.com/l7g9gl8

(where are the lefty war on women calling for a boycott and this dudes head)

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2014 11:25 AM (hJauc)

77 Careful or irongrandpa will come 'round and tell us we're failing America or something.

Not that America failed us.

I really don't see how anyone can look at the obscene amounts of money being siphoned off of the middle class to fatten the rich and the dependent poor and not be outraged, not say, "fuck all this--you ain't getting another damned thing from me, not my, sweat, not my tears, not my labor, certainly not my sympathy or alliance: Not. One. Damned. Thing."

I don't owe this unholy coalition ruining this country one damned thing--not when they wake up in the morning and go to sleep each night conniving new and every more onerous means of bleeding me of everything I have.

Anything further I give only empowers them to extend their ruin.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 11:25 AM (VjL9S)

78 And paranoid inconsistent conservatives are telling her she can’t be president because she has grandchildren.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair, stuck in a dentist office with The View at April 24, 2014 11:25 AM (HrUMd)

79 I'm not going to abandon Cliven Bundy. IfWhen he goes down, I so will the rest of us, eventually.

True enough.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:26 AM (UyYYt)

80 Well, the BLM is trying to steal Texas land as well. Perry and Abbott are on the case, and won't be making any random racial gaffes.

Come and take it, feds.

Posted by: Lauren at April 24, 2014 11:26 AM (hFL/3)

81 Let-it-burn or Don't-let-burn arguments are weird, buzzing sounds that annoy the heck out of me. People vote for a lot of reasons, reasons usually based on emotional responses to issues having a real impact on their lives. 99% of registnered voters don't read this blog (not a scientific survey, but if 1% of registered US voters DID read this blog on a regular basis, Ace would be phoning it in from the resort of his choice - because I know I would), so the heat generated by "Stand back and watch vs. Vote GOP no matter what" is phhhhttt.. Vote in the primary for the most conservative candidate who has a reasonable chance of winning.

And be of good cheer. Nothing aggravates a lib more than a happy conservative.

Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2014 11:26 AM (JBggj)

82 77 Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 11:25 AM (VjL9S)

IG like Bundy is a product of his time.

I'd of walked through hell in a ghasoline suit to aid America in spreading Liberty vice Communism.

I won't spit to aid Obama in aiding Al Qaeda.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:26 AM (TE35l)

83 I'm inclined toward this view as well. However, it doesn't change the fact that he stepped on his dick, and gave fuel to a narrative that he and by extension all his supporters are nothing more than a bunch of racist retrogrades who want to put black people in chains.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:18 AM (DrWcr)


It would have been better for him, and for others, if he had simply kept his mouth shut.


Now he is toxic. Whatever support he had before, he has now severely damaged if not destroyed.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:27 AM (bb5+k)

84 Too bad, I'd like to have heard this discussed in a podcast with DrewM attending, just to hear Ace play his Mike Castle card. "Bite Me, GOP": http://tinyurl.com/n84n59k

Posted by: Born Free at April 24, 2014 11:27 AM (xL8Hf)

85
An adult faces reality. "Mainstream" Republicans are the least bad option. You can try to change who is up for elections through the nomination process, butif you lose that, there is no point in tearing down the nominee. All it does is help democrats get elected.
Yes, lets criticize the McCain's while in office if they do something bad. But when they win the nomination, you say the McCain is the best we've got, and here is all the good things they can do, here is all the bad thing theirs opponent will do,we have to back him to the hilt.
When you compareEisenhower to FDR, there is no comparison.
When you compare Nixon toLBJ there is no comparison
When you compare Bush I to Bubba, there is no comparison
When you compare Bush II to Obama, there is no comparison.
The country is better served with the former to the latter. Stop acting like there isn't any difference. Would you rather have Bush's rate of spending or Obama's? There's no comparison.
In 08 Debt to GDP was at 38%, near the historical (if still terrible) average.Today it is 74%. (CBO figures) Keep on tearing down the only people we have, doomthe countryto satisfy your purity urge. Things will get so much worse when that debt hits 100%. Our goal, as a party, should be to keep that from happening as long as we can until the next real conservative comes. Not "meh, lets get it to 100% and then hope Regan II gets here".

Posted by: Stone at April 24, 2014 11:27 AM (qRV1m)

86 I do not care what Cliven Bundy said, anymore than I cared what Ted Nugent said a couple months back, or what any private citizen says on his or her own time. I legitimately do not give a single, solitary rat's ass. The people are not the problem. The GOVERNMENT is the problem.


And yeah, I know that the left owns the media and the media owns the zeitgeist, and I really dont' give a flying fuck about that either. It's a known quantity. Work with it, work around it, or ignore it completely. Or, my preferred method, find a way to destroy it. That's the only thing we can do that will make along term impact. Destroy the media.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:27 AM (4df7R)

87 46:Who wants to place odds on this poster ever coming back to comment again.
Posted by: buzzion



Who's too busy masturbating over his comment.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 24, 2014 11:27 AM (aHF6Y)

88 This, by all accounts, is very disheartening.

The faster it burns down, the sooner we can get on with the business of cleaning up the mess.

Kind of like taking off a bandaid; it's got to come off and you can peel it back, rip it off or simply let it fall off.

"But if it falls off, it means the wound has healed!"
- GOP Leadership

Posted by: gw mclintock at April 24, 2014 11:28 AM (qwUGR)

89 Hills pretty damned old to be a first time Grandmother.I'm 64 and I have an 18 year old ...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 24, 2014 11:28 AM (9+ccr)

90

Can you believe this? The Left uses dozens of words and phrases as political booby traps -- quite effectively, too.

Saying the word "negro," in any context, will automatically negate the argument. Cliven Bundy is now Wrong; he blew it.

*(Don't be surprised if Ace comes along in the next hour or three and says exactly that.)

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:28 AM (aqrfx)

91 85 Posted by: Stone at April 24, 2014 11:27 AM (qRV1m)

Thanks....

you left out "racist asshole neanderthals" ala McCain...

Can you explain to me how Amigo Grande! aids me politically again?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:28 AM (TE35l)

92 @Drew, some children are too stupid to learn. Are you going to let them burn down your house because of it?

Posted by: Lea at April 24, 2014 11:29 AM (lIU4e)

93 When have you "adults" ever stood up to the dog-eating crackhead in the White House? Seems to me you're the ones running away as fast as you can, sugar tits. Real adults would have articles of impeachment on Barky's desk.

And, last but not least, fuck you.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:18 AM (zF6Iw)



Hold on, hold on, lemme cinch up before I clamber onto the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness. Okay, all good.

*clambers*

*kisses your cheek*

What you said, sweetling.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:29 AM (mf5HN)

94 Does an "adult" crap on his kid's dinner plate and tell him to "make the best of it"? That seems to be the adult way of doing things as defined by the adult above telling everyone what children they are.

Posted by: ejo at April 24, 2014 11:30 AM (GXvSO)

95 Keep on tearing down the only people we have, doomthe countryto satisfy your purity urge.



Thus proving that you don't understand at all.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:30 AM (4df7R)

96 You didn't burn that.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 24, 2014 11:30 AM (FcR7P)

97 Because it burns us as well. We aren't inoculated from the liberals' shitty policies.

If you're not taking the energies no longer wasted on trying to stop the inevitable and using them to protect and shore up the seeds of what we'll need afterwards, it's just apathy and surrender.

Build up your families, your churches, your communities. Learn the skills to keep things running. Set aside supplies and tools.

Just because you're letting it burn shouldn't mean you're not making ready to start rebuilding afterwards.

We should have started a replacement party by now.

We should have started the cores of what new networks and institutions we'll need by now.

I hope somebody has. Otherwise this will not work out for the best.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 11:30 AM (rt3TY)

98 I will still continue to vote R because I don't want the Ds thinking they have my buy-in.

Besides, I, perhaps naively, think that occasionally I get to vote for guys I think are actual good guys like Greg Abbott and Ted Cruz.

(I almost, almost voted in the primary for the guy who legally changed his name to SECEDE Kilgore. He's a nut job but I support his cause.)

But I have little hope that this ship can be righted. Within the next few decades we morons are going to be little islands of sanity in a heaving sea of bullshit. So my focus is on teaching my family the things that I know to be true about God, about freedom, about dignity, about the ideals that this country was founded upon, so that those ideas can stay alive and maybe have some prayer of resurrection in the future. I tell my oldest daughter, who is 12 and skeptical/smart like a whip (total future moron) that she has a huge responsibility on her shoulders--that she's going to have to fight for principles someday that her grandparents took for granted when they were growing up. She is listening.

And we are working toward preparedness and self-sufficiency. We don't have rural property to retreat to, but we can do a few things to prepare if stuff gets bad, which we expect it to.

That's all I can do for now. I wish that there was a committed opposition party, because if there were I'd work my ass off for it, but there's not, and there's little I can do to change that.

Posted by: Republic of Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo at April 24, 2014 11:31 AM (Gk2GE)

99
Gods of the Copybook Headings and Dane-Geld are my two favorite poems of all time.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (DrWcr)


Kipling had a lot of Wisdom.

I'm also quite fond of Shelly's "Ozymandias."

I doubt Obama ever read it.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:31 AM (bb5+k)

100 Hold on, hold on, lemme cinch up before I clamber onto the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness. Okay, all good.



*clambers*



*kisses your cheek*



What you said, sweetling.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:29 AM (mf5HN)


Do you need help getting down, my queen? Or do you plan to go on a ranty-rant while you're up there?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:31 AM (4df7R)

101
You didn't burn that.

lol

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (JtwS4)

102 What voting for the "least bad" fails to consider is that the entire process is rigged to protect incumbents. The argument that you can just vote them out isn't even close to being reality. If the present process isn't dismantled, it won't be changed.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (BZAd3)

103 66
Because it burns us as well. We aren't inoculated from the liberals' shitty policies.



*blows whistle, bangs pots and points toward nic*





Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 24, 2014 11:23 AM (0HooB)

TRIGGER!

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (/vO0r)

104 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (zF6Iw)

What you said is true, but-

Alinsky!


Some reporter got him to yammer on and on about side stuff until Bundy said something which could be Alinsky-ed.

And viola! Bundy is now the most racisty racist whatever was racist-

and if you agree with him on anything why you're a racisty racist too.


Honestly, how long are people going to get suckered into this nonsense?

Stay on topic morons. That MSM reporter is not your buddy.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (KBvAm)

105 Now he is toxic. Whatever support he had before, he has now severely damaged if not destroyed.

I think you're right, but I don't understand why it has to be that way.

All his support was from the right. Why should we abandon him? He has no power over any racial decisions. He's a rancher. The government is trying to strong-arm him into moving.

They hate us and think we're racists anyway.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (RMg6O)

106 I'm also quite fond of Shelly's "Ozymandias."



I doubt Obama ever read it.







Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:31 AM (bb5+k)


Oh, I'm sure he's read it.

I"m equally sure he doesn't understand what it means.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (4df7R)

107 59% of Texas Republican primary voters thought keeping Cornyn for another 6 years was a good idea. There isn't enough fire hose in the world to keep that many pyromaniac children from burning down the house.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (L02KD)

108 For those in the "Let It Burn" camp I recommend you turn off your electricity, water, gas, and anything thing else you need or use daily. Treat all neighbors as a threat to your survivial. Try living for a week, or at least a few days with what you currently have in your home. You will not like it and you will find out you are not prepared.

The "Let It Burn" idea is really, really stupid. Personally I prefer a controlled burn, unfortunately I don't see that happening.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (hzpoi)

109 97 Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 11:30 AM (rt3TY)

Run Red, moron estates...

develop a second you focus on interlocking skill sets...

IOW make a new community of like minded folk and get ready for the EnSCOAMFening...

b/c the GOPe sure as fuck won't stop him.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (TE35l)

110 Let it Burn really means that we cannot stop it from burning, that we don't really have a choice. Our viewpoint does not have sufficient representation in gov't to be actualized.





So, it will burn, regardless of any discussion here.

Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (p7BzH)

111 Gods of the Copybook Headings and Dane-Geld are my two favorite poems of all time.

Add in City of Brass. Tell me that's not relevant.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 11:33 AM (rt3TY)

112 Posted by: Stone at April 24, 2014 11:27 AM (qRV1m)

I understand the point you're trying to make, but trotting out John "You have nothing to fear from a Barack Obama presidency, and by the way, those Tea Partiers are wacko birds" McStain as someone deserving support isn't the best way to convince people.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:33 AM (zF6Iw)

113 Posted by: Lea at April 24, 2014 11:29 AM (lIU4e)

The problem is, when it comes to the GOP the children own and run the house and the House (SWIDT?).

Posted by: DrewM. at April 24, 2014 11:33 AM (r5Qcm)

114 OK, so who is responsible for salting the earth after it all burns?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 11:33 AM (8zTpe)

115 We must remember a fundamental axiom of modern political discourse:

Any democrat anecdote is the truth; but

All conservative facts are lies!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 24, 2014 11:33 AM (o3MSL)

116 Do you need help getting down, my queen? Or do you plan to go on a ranty-rant while you're up there?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:31 AM (4df7R)


A little help getting down would be most appreciated. No, I'm not going to go ranty-rant.

Wait. Yes, I am.

WHERE'S MY TRUCON CAT, DREW? WHERE? THIS IS THE PERFECT TRUCON CAT POST BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOW CAN WE YOU FUCKING RINO!

There. I feel better now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:34 AM (mf5HN)

117
I don't give a fuck whether Bundy starts channeling Biden and screams he wants to put the coloreds back in chains. Bundy is not the issue! The fucking issue is an out of control, overreaching federal government which has no business doing what it is doing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (zF6Iw)


On a thread yesterday (during which I took a lot of flack) I pointed out that reasoned arguments don't sway. Emotional ones do.


There is a sort of "Monkey Logic" in politics, and Clive Bundy just cost us the emotional high ground.

It doesn't matter if your reasoning is still valid, it is the emotional aspect which wins arguments in politics.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:34 AM (bb5+k)

118 108 Posted by: ExSnipe at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (hzpoi)

Not here, I was prepared in Louisiana though.

Let it Burn is not about blowing your dick off...

it is the cessation of the illusion that anyone on that hill gives enough of a fuck to address the elephant in the room and focusing on getting ready.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:34 AM (TE35l)

119 You should never put water on a grease fire. Think about it.

#deepthoughts

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 24, 2014 11:34 AM (+lsX1)

120 60 ----The only problem I have with "let it burn" (which I've been feeling since the 90s) is that there doesn't seem to be any plan/consensus of what to do when it all burns down.

Posted by: aka.john at April 24, 2014 11:21 AM (dG6mV)
---------------
Oh, we have a plan.
A LOT of plans.

We have no trouble whipping up support to alleviate trivial discomforts. Wittle Sandra Fluke has to pay for her own birth control! It's an emergency!!!

What do you think most people will do when there is a truly major disaster? They'll turn to Caesar.

Posted by: The Left at April 24, 2014 11:35 AM (dfYL9)

121
btw, get used to calling him Registered Republican Cliven Bundy.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:35 AM (aqrfx)

122 So, it will burn, regardless of any discussion here.
Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (p7BzH)

Sort of like 2+2=4, independent of your feelings on the math!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 24, 2014 11:35 AM (o3MSL)

123 Given how many members of the gutless D.C. wing of the establishment-GOP are in gerrymandered "safe" seats, the ability to get them to pay attention short of SMOD is somewhat .. limited.
.
Let it burn is, in part, a response to the inability of Joe and Jane Sixpack to get through to these idiots, or elect temporary Dem "scabs" who would allow an eventual fiscal conservative to get in...
.
Mew

Posted by: acat at April 24, 2014 11:36 AM (gGEmy)

124 WHERE'S MY TRUCON CAT, DREW? WHERE? THIS IS THE
PERFECT TRUCON CAT POST BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT NOW CAN WE
YOU FUCKING RINO!



There. I feel better now.





Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:34 AM (mf5HN)



http://bit.ly/1dK2fBo !

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:36 AM (4df7R)

125 Add in City of Brass. Tell me that's not relevant.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 11:33 AM (rt3TY)

Just read it. Gave me chills.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:36 AM (DrWcr)

126 I'm also quite fond of Shelly's "Ozymandias." I doubt Obama ever read it.

I guarantee you the closest Barky ever came to Ozymandias was watching Monty Python stoned out of his empty gourd.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:36 AM (zF6Iw)

127 They say that an alcoholic has to hit rock bottom before they can make a permanent change and I expect that there is at least some truth in that. This country imio, is closer to the bottom than it is to even the middle of the down slope.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 11:36 AM (BZAd3)

128 Was John McCain a grandfather when he ran?

That's why he lost, according to the new requirements for presidency.

Grandfatherly = Presidentin'

Oops, sorry, DQ'd for being a male and 'Pubby.

Posted by: gw mclintock at April 24, 2014 11:37 AM (qwUGR)

129
Mew


hahaha, cracks me up everytime!

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:37 AM (aqrfx)

130 After the burning times everyone will agree with us!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 24, 2014 11:37 AM (+lsX1)

131 Pic of The Day: Obama Bows To Japanese Emperor…



At least he wasn’t bowing to a robot… no, wait, yes he did.


Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 11:37 AM (t3UFN)

132 Jor-El did his best to save his planet, but they would not listen. He was not resigned to Let It Explode. But when it was inevitable, he did what he could.

___

Say, the rhyme below stated out as a two-liner for a comment in the earlier thread, but grew. I was going to just post it on my site, but, after reading Drew's post, I thought I'd dump it here. Apologies if inappropriate.

______

As the Union succumbs
to the failure cascade,
Undoing the best
that our ancestors made,
Good citizens wonder,
as we lose our lands,
Where's the Nation we swore to,
for which that Flag stands?

Not found in D. C.,
only Lincoln's cold eyes;
Not taught in the schools,
brainwash jails in disguise;
Not on the T. V.,
Father never knows best.
Not found in the churches
where Lucifers nest.

Republicanism is lost,
the mob rules.
Tyranny by
a committee of fools.
No respect for Real law
Nor for Our Constitution,
This plague eats away
At each good institution.

No New World escape;
all the globe has been found.
No fleeing to Space,
NASA stares at the ground.
We're not just surrounded,
We've been infiltrated,
The enemy acted
while good people waited.

Laid seige, persecuted,
defeated, dispersed,
Liberty's torch
will shine out
through the worst,
That Spirit of 76
will inspire,
Those God-granted Rights
setting new hearts on fire.

Corruption may win,
no more once a great nation,
But some will retain
that Great Declaration,
And seek Independence,
that some day we'll see
A new home of the brave,
In the land of the Free.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click here 4 latest at April 24, 2014 11:37 AM (x1L8S)

133 60 Spot on with the rebuttal. The only problem I have with "let it burn" (which I've been feeling since the 90s) is that there doesn't seem to be any plan/consensus of what to do when it all burns down. I'm not looking forward to the Interregnum but we need it desperately.

Posted by: aka.john at April 24, 2014 11:21 AM (dG6mV)


My plan is to do the best I can making alliances with neighbors and trying to become independent food wise.

I see the dollar as a continuously degrading commodity, and we need to find some sort of alternative means to keep the wheels turning without it.


Yeah, the urban areas of the cities are very likely going to burn, and the suffering will land predominantly on supporters of Liberal Democrats.


I would like for it to not be so, but this is what I see down the road.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:38 AM (bb5+k)

134
So, it will burn, regardless of any discussion here.

Meh. I only come for the boobehs anyway.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 11:38 AM (JtwS4)

135 Hold on, hold on, lemme cinch up before I clamber onto the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness. Okay, all good.
*clambers*
*kisses your cheek*
What you said, sweetling.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:29 AM (mf5HN)


Praise from Caesar! You do me much honor, Imperial One.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 11:38 AM (zF6Iw)

136 The "adult" needs his diaper changed. You know since he bitched and ran away.

Like a child.

Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 11:39 AM (LI48c)

137
Then it reminds me of Mr Rogers' Neighborhood of Make-Believe and Henrietta Pussycat.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:39 AM (aqrfx)

138
Drew:

The other day you were looking for a German word that would mean someone who thinks he's brilliant but is in fact an imbecile.

It ain't German, but in Yiddish, the word "oberchocem" is close. The literal translation is "know-it-all" but the vibe is pretty much as you describe.

Hope that helps.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 11:39 AM (CMkNk)

139 Yeah, go ahead and vote mainstream GOP. That's like putting lighter fluid on an existent fire unlike democrats who like to use gasoline.

Carry on and burn.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 11:39 AM (HVff2)

140 And it ceased, and God granted them all things for which they had striven,
And the heart of a beast in the place of a man’s heart was given. . . .

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 11:39 AM (rt3TY)

141 http://bit.ly/1dK2fBo !

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:36 AM (4df7R)



See, this is why You Are Better.


http://bit.ly/1rpaLbL

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:39 AM (mf5HN)

142 I just went and found the Bundy quote and here are my 2 cents.


1. It came from the NYT so it is automatically suspect. Need the original broadcast.


2. He really worded it poorly, but what he is saying is that blacks would be better off w/o all the welfare and government support. Something that a number of conservative black pundits have been saying for years.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 11:40 AM (T2V/1)

143 Turns out that over the last few months, we've picked up on the fact that each time the DSCC sends an "important message" to voters of a battleground state, a liberal outside group quickly adheres to the message by producing an ad to be run on television. In other words, anytime the DSCC sends an "important message," it is a directive to outside groups to run an "uncoordinated" ad (since, you know coordination would be illegal). Pretty confident in our theory, yesterday we made an open bet that by Cinco De Mayo, Reid's Majority PAC would run an ad in New Hampshire that closely follows the script provided by the DSCC/Shaheen (we also note the hypocrisy of Shaheen ranting about the "people's pledge" to limit outside money while posting images scripts for sources of outside money to run ads).

Turns out we gave Majority PAC too much credit. Less than 24 hours after receiving the directive from the DSCC, Senate Majority PAC has reserved hundreds of thousands of dollars of air time in Manchester New Hampshire. Remember, coordination would be illegal, so Democrats are trying their best to find ways to subvert (or work around) the law.

Posted by: Obama For-ks America at April 24, 2014 11:40 AM (e8kgV)

144 61 You can't stop people voting for "free" stuff. We had a good run.

Posted by: brak at April 24, 2014 11:21 AM (M2qTM)


I say this, I repeat this, I keep saying this, and it appears to me that I'm the only one saying this.


"The Last three words of the 24th amendment Killed this nation. "


(And the 26th amendment didn't help either.)


I now regard it as a fundamental principal of governance, that no system can survive if non-taxpayers are permitted to vote.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:40 AM (bb5+k)

145 one more thing.

I would posit that the GOPe are the ones with the let it burn philosophy, as they are the ones with actual power to staunch the collpase. yet they are not.


we are just observes, saying ok Fine have it YOUR way!, as we have little power but what we Gave Them and they Failed.

so we must watch, as they scream down any conservative like cruz or lee that spoke the issue and won't fight with us or for us.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 11:41 AM (nqBYe)

146
In fact, it's these "grown ups" who are so darn "electable" that are actively doing something....putting more fuel on the fire.

So...I shouldn't admit to bringing a load of JP4 and thermite to the burn party?

That's about like being a pyromaniac in a field full of strawmen...

I guess I'll turn back to my hookers and blow retirement plan.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 24, 2014 11:41 AM (1hM1d)

147 I think this election will be Wild and Wooly, to say the least.

I Will Not Vote For a RINO, and will do whatever it takes to send them to the Funemployment Line.

Posted by: Paladin at April 24, 2014 11:42 AM (+Wvn3)

148 Great fucking post, Drew.

LiB. Fire cleanses.

Now to read some comments.

Posted by: akula51 at April 24, 2014 11:42 AM (UGWs/)

149 "This is why the job of libertarians is to move the Overton Window. Neither Dems nor Reps in power will do anything to restrain Leviathan.

We need to get people, ofwhatever affiliation, persuaded that liberty is a good thing. Economic liberty is a good thing which also works. Personal liberty is a good thing which empowers.

Government spending money my children haven't earned yet and destroying their chances to do so is not a good thing. Government agencies empowered to micromanage all human activity and enforce fiat with military tactics is not a good thing."

Nicely put, Frumious.
What I've been saying too.
Why I'm not voting R for an establishment RINO again, nor voting D to throw fuel on the fire.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 24, 2014 11:42 AM (jYxCp)

150 2. He really worded it poorly, but what he is saying is that blacks would be better off w/o all the welfare and government support. Something that a number of conservative black pundits have been saying for years.
Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 11:40 AM (T2V/1)

I agree that's what he was trying to say. He just shot himself in the dick with what he actually said, assuming the quotation is accurate.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:42 AM (DrWcr)

151 2. He really worded it poorly, but what he is saying is that blacks would be better off w/o all the welfare and government support. Something that a number of conservative black pundits have been saying for years.

He used the words negro and cotton, so now we all have let the government run roughshod over us.

Anybody in a tizzy over this: kindly grow up.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 11:42 AM (RMg6O)

152 In oddly related news, I am convinced that the polar bears on bing today are around to nom me.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:42 AM (mf5HN)

153 Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 11:40 AM (T2V/1

That's what I thought Vic.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (HVff2)

154 rom taxicab depressions
One million seconds ago was eleven days ago.

One billion seconds ago was 1982.

One trillion seconds ago was 30,000 BC. Mankind was eating worms and the paleolithic equivalent of roadkill, the assault weapon of the day was a stone axe or a really strong pointy stick, and we had not yet domesticated the dog.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (R8hU8)

155
He really worded it poorly, but what he is saying is that blacks would be better off w/o all the welfare and government support.

Lots of people make a reasoned argument that the welfare state has been a detriment to blacks. He "worded it poorly" because he spoke the way racists speak when they're being racist.

There are actual racists afoot. We get all into crinch mode all the time because of all the unfair accusations of dog whistles and whatnot, but there are actual racists who say racisty things because that's how they express their racism. Those people are not good people.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (JtwS4)

156 Some people seem to think that electing GOPe RINOs will slow down the "burn." I wonder where they get this delightful notion. Please give me some examples of GOPe legislators acting rationally in regards to the public interest rather than their own political and personal ends. But first let me turn down this background noise of constant commercials and radio spots about the atrocities of Obamacare, which are only broken up by news reports of how John Boehner has told the Demonrats that there will be NO so called "immigration reform" until, at the very least, the country actually gets a fucking BUDGET, and oh, by the way, did you hear that a Republican senator got up on the floor of the Senate and started ripping Hairy Reed a new asshole? It's awesome!


Oh, wait. None of that's happened. Furthermore, none of that is GOING to happen. So never mind.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (4df7R)

157 I predict an Ace post on Bundy later today.

I also predict chaos on that thread.

Good day.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (oFCZn)

158 150 I agree that's what he was trying to say. He just
shot himself in the dick with what he actually said, assuming the
quotation is accurate.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:42 AM (DrWcr)

He is a crotchety old man and probably not that articulate.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (T2V/1)

159 Sorry, but not all of us are in the 'Let it burn' camp. 'Let it burn' is a kind of passive statement of purpose, which seems somewhat self-negating insofar as purpose is concerned. It also translates as 'do nothing but bitch or gloat', with a smug 'I told you so' waiting in the wings.

I've got no use forLet It Burnas an attitude or a philsophy or as a plan of (in)action.It's anultimately defeatist fantasy that portrays life as a disaster movie, and only requires of its adherents that they lie back and watch the show. Not me, thanks.

Posted by: troyriser at April 24, 2014 11:44 AM (gNlvW)

160 The AoSHQ Podcast is one of the best. I just wish the sound quality was better.

Posted by: whoever at April 24, 2014 11:44 AM (pjMym)

161
The election of Lincoln relegated the Whigs to the dustbin of history in one election.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb



Arguable, we had that moment with Perot in 1992. People forget just how well Perot did by third party standards, and with a bit more professionalism in his organization and a stronger VP pick -- who knows.

Since then, the Republicans are 2 out of 6 in Presidential races, and those 2 victories were by narrow one state EV margins. Frankly what's going on reminds me of the slow fade of the Liberal Party in the UK as the opposition party to the Conservatives. Took a couple of decades, but at the end, Labor edged them out of their ecological niche and into the wilderness.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 11:44 AM (kdS6q)

162 It will take at least a generation for the effects of institutionalized socialism to inflict the level of damage on this country that other Marxist/Socialist societies dealt with, and in the end the result might be bastardized quasi-authoritarian hodgepodge where freedoms are implied, but not real - like Russia or China.

I would prefer to not leave that as a legacy for my children.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (BZAd3)

163 What happens when it actually "burns"?

Have we ever seen an example where things get really bad and eventually some sort of free-market paradise rises from the ashes?

You can have full blown communist countries that keep going for nearly a hundred years.

If I genuinely thought that stepping back meant some sort of Utopia would get here quicker, I'd be all for that. I just don't see a convincing case. It looks like Wishcasting to me.

Also, I'm no fan of the Republican Establishment, but the decade where Bush and the Republican Congress were in charge were not bad times. Of course it wasn't "pure", but I'd trade those times for our current government in a heartbeat.

Posted by: McAdams at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (Wmqc5)

164 Great post, Drew.

I think the thing I'll miss most when the burning times come is pretty pop singers. Oh, and non-subsistence living. Yeah, those two things.

Posted by: shillelagh at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (hRzu2)

165 It's not a matter of let it burn.

If things continue along the way they have for the last 6 years, it will burn and there is not much we are gong to be able to do to stop it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (t3UFN)

166 "The problem is, when it comes to the GOP the children own and run the house and the House (SWIDT?). "
***

More like the GOP is run by 8 year olds, while the dem's are run by 2 year olds. The 8 year olds can at least kinda manage on their own.

I know what you guys are saying, really, but I think the best bet is to find good candidates, promote them and try to get them elected. And vote for the best option, rather than not vote.

My other question to the let it burn crew (and ya'll really need to do a frozen parody while you're at it), is about the supreme court. Do you really want some of those 5/4 decisions going the other way? Do you really want things to get that bad?

Posted by: Lea at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (lIU4e)

167 90 trillion in debt.
Can't fuck with math, it will burn

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (R8hU8)

168 » You didn't burn that.
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 24, 2014 11:30 AM (FcR7P)

Posted by: mindful webworker - peck 4 webwork at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (0MVzQ)

169 I predict an Ace post on Bundy later today.

I also predict chaos on that thread.

Good day.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (oFCZn)



You know, I'm just tossing this out there, the only way to win is not to play.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:46 AM (mf5HN)

170 I've got no use forLet It Burnas an attitude or a
philsophy or as a plan of (in)action.It's anultimately defeatist fantasy
that portrays life as a disaster movie, and only requires of its
adherents that they lie back and watch the show. Not me, thanks.

Posted by: troyriser at April 24, 2014 11:44 AM (gNlvW)

No, it is an acknowledgement of reality that too few in gov't are interested in stopping the burn, and so it won't. All we can do is prepare ourselves and our own for the rougher times ahead.

Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 11:46 AM (p7BzH)

171
OT because I have special dispensation being a foreigner in a different time zone as in tomorrow

Hello from way Down Here in Sydney on early Friday morning

Today, April 25th is our ANZAC Day, similar to your Veterans Day

This is probably our most important national occasion and it marks the anniversary of the first major military action fought by Aussies and Kiwis during WW1


ANZAC stands for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps and today has ended up as the day to commemorate all of those who served and those who died in all warsin which we took part

The day will start soon with Dawn services right around the country and the big one at Gallipoli in Turkey - ANZAC Cove plus another big service at Villers Bretonneaux in Franceat the huge war memorialthere

After this there are marches in all the cities and towns around OZ

We'll be at the Sydney march later today - one of the patients at the GP practice I work at is marching - he turned 90 last Saturday and reckons he will not miss this march until he falls off the perch!

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 11:46 AM (flMT4)

172 "Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:36 AM"

Permanently on my computer's desktop. :-)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 11:46 AM (knoK7)

173 Look over there Bundy racissssst......

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 24, 2014 11:47 AM (9+ccr)

174
We have been on an ever-more quickening socialist/statist trajectory for nearly 100 years. Very fast since LBJ and now at warp speed since the waning years of Bush and SCOAMF.

The mindset of Americans, thanks to our educational indoctrination system is to hate American traditional values and to vilify anyone who advocates same.

The only real course of action that will save this nation is to abolish virtually every Federal agency - especially the IRS and EPA - and revert back to limited government and SELF-SUFFICIENCY.

Whoever advocates that is my hero and stands a snowball's chance in Hell politically.

There is no way out but blood and suffering. I invite someone to argue that with facts and figures and not just feel-good rah-rah statements.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 11:47 AM (CMkNk)

175 In oddly related news, I am convinced that the polar bears on bing today are around to nom me.

What? Don't be ridiculous, they're just adorable little OHMYGODOHMYGODGETTHEMOFFMEAAAAAAHHHHHH!

...can someone in the Horde reattach my arm...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Looking for Trauma Center at April 24, 2014 11:47 AM (rt3TY)

176
You really want to know what the 'burning' will be like?

Look at Europe. And look at Venezuela. Now put them in a bag and mix 'em up. That's where the US is headed.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (aqrfx)

177 Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:34 AM (TE35l)

I spent some time with a friend's family in South Florida after Hurricane Andrew in 1992. It was a wakeup call for me, and very scary. Then in 2004 and 2005 after hurricanes knocked out power where I lived I learned a lot.

I don't think most people understands what a let it burn idea really means. Will it be an American Revolution, or a French Revolution? I fear it will be a French Revolution, and we won't be in charge.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (hzpoi)

178 That "Adult" sounds a lot like fucking jwest. So yeah, damned fool.

Posted by: maddogg at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (xWW96)

179 You know, I'm just tossing this out there, the only way to win is not to play.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:46 AM (mf5HN)

Kinda like marriage...

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (DrWcr)

180 This nation needs to burn.

http://tinyurl.com/lvantgx

Horrifying: Bodies of Aborted Babies Burned to Power Homes in Oregon

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (fWAjv)

181 And yeah, I know that the left owns the media and the media owns the zeitgeist, and I really dont' give a flying fuck about that either. It's a known quantity. Work with it, work around it, or ignore it completely. Or, my preferred method, find a way to destroy it. That's the only thing we can do that will make along term impact. Destroy the media.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:27 AM (4df7R)



Agree. We need to support efforts at undercutting the existing structure financially.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (bb5+k)

182
I predict an Ace post on Bundy later today. I also predict chaos on that thread.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis



Beer thread. When Ace mentions Christine O'Donnell and/or Todd Akin, take a drink.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (kdS6q)

183 The pendulum has swung so far to the left, there is going to be real trouble when it starts to swing the other way.
I will be at ground zero when it finally does hit the fan, but I am struggling to dig my way out of debt/back taxes.
I need to stock up on essentials to protect myself and my family, hopefully I can start in a month or two.
Sometimes I think that they want us to disengage and watch it burn. I would go Galt in a minute if I thought I could survive.
In the meantime, my income is being stolen from me in the form of payroll taxes, and given to people whoconsider mean extremist because I believe in personal freedom.

Posted by: wytshus at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (DErq5)

184 165 It's not a matter of let it burn.

If things continue along the way they have for the last 6 years, it will burn and there is not much we are gong to be able to do to stop it.


Preach it. There's *nothing* that can be done if we continue on this trajectory.

And there's a fuck-ton of difference between WiB, LiB and MiB.

Posted by: akula51 at April 24, 2014 11:49 AM (UGWs/)

185 Let It Burn.

I'll be over here, with my Slurpee.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 24, 2014 11:49 AM (BAS5M)

186 Today, April 25th is our ANZAC Day, similar to your Veterans Day

...huh. Adds context to having seen "Yesterday, When the War Began" this past weekend.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 11:49 AM (rt3TY)

187 179 You know, I'm just tossing this out there, the only way to win is not to play.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:46 AM (mf5HN)

Truer words were never spoken...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 24, 2014 11:49 AM (9+ccr)

188
OT: Ukranians have dislodged dug in separatists with force, at least five dead. Russians massing troops and tanks on the border demanding an immediate end.

Russian Defense Minister Sergej Schojgu, "if the war machine is not stopped today it will lead to a large number of dead and wounded".

(per FAZ)

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 11:49 AM (JtwS4)

189 178 That "Adult" sounds a lot like fucking jwest. So yeah, damned fool.
Posted by: maddogg at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (xWW96)

He didn't say anything about post-burning-times $25,000 vouchers, so it was probably someone else.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:49 AM (DrWcr)

190 177 I don't think most people understands what a let it
burn idea really means. Will it be an American Revolution, or a French
Revolution? I fear it will be a French Revolution, and we won't be in
charge.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (hzpoi)


There have been very few "revolutions" that did not get bloody after the fact. The American revolution was a major outlier, and event it was not "blood free".

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 11:49 AM (T2V/1)

191 You know, I'm just tossing this out there, the only way to win is not to play.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:46 AM
=====
What? No. I say "Play!"

Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2014 11:49 AM (JBggj)

192 >>I fear it will be a French Revolution, and we won't be in charge.

Also factor in Muslims attempting set up a caliphate amidst the wreckage - just look at what's happening in Europe.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 11:50 AM (8zTpe)

193 I don't think most people understands what a let it
burn idea really means. Will it be an American Revolution, or a French
Revolution? I fear it will be a French Revolution, and we won't be in
charge.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (hzpoi)


I think you don't understand what it means. It means WE cannot stop this. WE are not in control right now.

Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 11:50 AM (p7BzH)

194 159 Posted by: troyriser at April 24, 2014 11:44 AM (gNlvW)

There's nothing smug about being as ready as possible and trying to leave enough readiness to aid good victims Troy.

It's a pity....

Johnson County is almost far enough out from Indy metro to have a chance.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:50 AM (TE35l)

195

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (oFCZn)


I predict the MSM will finally cover Bundy.... with overkill....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 11:51 AM (84gbM)

196 Where's AllenG when you need him?

Salt the earth, etc etc.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 11:51 AM (M9BzG)

197 "For the hate they had taught through the State brought the State no defender,
And it passed from the roll of the Nations in headlong surrender!"

Posted by: Daybrother at April 24, 2014 11:51 AM (nyc/y)

198 Took a couple of decades, but at the end, Labor edged them out of their ecological niche and into the wilderness.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 11:44 AM (kdS6q)

At first, I thought that the decline of this country was happening very rapidly. I now don't think that. I believe the decline of this country has already happened, and that the apparent large scope of changes are really desperation. Desperation to maintain the status quo - on the right - and desperation to kill the disease of capitalism that the left sees as the source of what led us to this point.

I believe that it is equally desperately necessary for these acts of desperation by the left and the right be stopped before something really bad and permanent happens to this country.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 11:51 AM (BZAd3)

199 195 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (oFCZn) I predict the MSM will finally cover Bundy.... with overkill....
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 11:51 AM (84gbM)

We also have Hairy Reed out there saying it's not over.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:51 AM (DrWcr)

200 Is fuel too expensive for you to "let it burn?" Try this alternative (SFW! but you might want to use earphones.)

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=aznFLJ5qjl8

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 24, 2014 11:52 AM (8MjqI)

201
There will be no revolution.

We are but frogs in a warming frying pan.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:52 AM (aqrfx)

202 180 Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (fWAjv)

Amen my "give a fuck" for America is running out of sand based on the media, The voters, Kermie G, and Abortion Barbie, and Electric Babies

I wish God would pop the YellowStone Caldera and leave a note saying "assholes"

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:52 AM (TE35l)

203 Fortunately, Hairy Reed has a mouth big enough to dig his own political grave and a brain small enough to allow it, and an ego big enough to power it.

Posted by: maddogg at April 24, 2014 11:53 AM (xWW96)

204 If things continue along the way they have for the last 6 years, it will burn and there is not much we are gong to be able to do to stop it.

Preach it. There's *nothing* that can be done if we continue on this trajectory.



And the GOPe Adults in charge don't seem to care about changing this trajectory.


Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 11:53 AM (uVkIH)

205
If you're not taking the energies no longer wasted on trying to stop the inevitable and using them to protect and shore up the seeds of what we'll need afterwards, it's just apathy and surrender.

Build up your families, your churches, your communities. Learn the skills to keep things running. Set aside supplies and tools.

Just because you're letting it burn shouldn't mean you're not making ready to start rebuilding afterwards.

We should have started a replacement party by now.

We should have started the cores of what new networks and institutions we'll need by now.

I hope somebody has. Otherwise this will not work out for the best.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 11:30 AM (rt3TY)


This is exactly right and bears repeating.


I will mention one thing i'm doing to try to keep the wheels turning after a "burn." I've set up a natural gas fueling station for my community, and i've been buying up natural gas powered vehicles. (Also buying CNG compressor equipment.)

I'm planning to get certified to do conversions as well.


Natural gas doesn't need refining, it just needs water removed from it. (Dessication.) It is abundant and far more viable for simple equipment to provide fuel.

Again, you don't need a refinery.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:53 AM (bb5+k)

206 I wish God would pop the YellowStone Caldera and leave a note saying "assholes"
Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:52 AM (TE35l)

God only promised he would never flood the entire world again. He didn't mention fire, smoke and ash.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:54 AM (DrWcr)

207 145
I would posit that the GOPe are the ones with the let it burn philosophy, as they are the ones with actual power to staunch the collpase. yet they are not.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 11:41 AM (nqBYe)
-----------------------
I think there is much truth in what you say.
I think they believe that there is very little, if anything, they can do.
So, even if they once thought they could stem the tide, they've pretty much given up.

Where I guess I would disagree with you is where you say they have the "actual power to staunch the collapse." They don't.
The only power strong enough to stop this decline, much less turn it around, is the media.
Good luck with that.

Dooooooooooom!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 24, 2014 11:54 AM (dfYL9)

208 198 Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 11:51 AM (BZAd3)

TJ the left is not persuadable by words, and I am not swayable to vacate my ideals either.


The BEST thing that could happen is peaceful break-up...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:54 AM (TE35l)

209 There will be no revolution.

We are but frogs in a warming frying pan.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:52 AM (aqrfx)

I've felt that same way for awhile. We've all been put into that slowly warming pot and it's just a matter of time until assimilation....

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 24, 2014 11:54 AM (9+ccr)

210 If we can borrow an endles supply of revenue, why do we bother citizens with any taxes ?

Posted by: Obama For-ks America at April 24, 2014 11:54 AM (e8kgV)

211
See, this is why You Are Better.





http://bit.ly/1rpaLbL

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:39 AM (mf5HN)


*coooo*


Lots of people make a reasoned argument that the welfare state has been a
detriment to blacks. He "worded it poorly" because he spoke the way
racists speak when they're being racist.


Or, to paraphrase a common Kathy Shaidle truism, he spoke the way lots of "real people" speak when they're having these conversations in their living rooms or on their porches or around the pool. Because he's an average guy, one who's of that age where his words aren't going through a PC filter. Do I think what he said was a racial powderkeg? Sure. Do I think the left will blow it up? Absolutely. Do I think there are a lot of people who would listen to or read what he said and say, secretly, inside their own heads, "You know, he kind of has a point, in an old-fashioned way..." Yeah, I do.

We can make all the reasoned arguments we want. It's not going to make a dent in public opinion, because reasoned arguments by conservatives don't make the press. Sometimes the only way anyone gets to hear what you have to say is if you say something that raises eyebrows.

Personally, my response if anyone asked me about Cliven Bundy's words would be, "What the hell do I care what one rancher in Oklahoma thinks about the poverty rate of the country's black population? That's not the issue here. The issue is the government sending armed thugs to seize an American citizen's livelihood. So you can quit trying to get me off topic and instead you can focus on the real issue at stake here. Let's talk about THAT."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:54 AM (4df7R)

212 To say that Bundy is not very articulate is the understatement of the century.

CBS covered the ranch last night by repeating the words "armed militia" over and over with pictures of scary guns. Not a single frame of a BLM agent. Not one.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 24, 2014 11:55 AM (bFA85)

213 Honey badger video from FB

http://tinyurl.com/md5d49w

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 11:55 AM (L8umz)

214 Wow, just Bing'ed up Kiplings City of Brass .... how prescient can you get ?
Whoever mentioned it above, thanks !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 24, 2014 11:55 AM (jYxCp)

215 Green shoots. King dollar. Jeb Bush. Chris Christie.

Posted by: Larry Kudlow at April 24, 2014 11:55 AM (I9I9J)

216
It took only 5 years for Americans to accept this new normal.

In 5 more years, no more Free Speech, 11% unemployment, EBT cards for everyone (but You), and $6/gal gas will be the new 'new' normal.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:55 AM (aqrfx)

217
186 Brother Cavil

Hi - would that be the movie Tomorrow when the War Began?

Haven't seen it but it is an Aussie one

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 11:55 AM (flMT4)

218 Beer thread. When Ace mentions Christine O'Donnell and/or Todd Akin, take a drink.

Sweet Bast.

And the fascist who sits behind me is going on and on about how awesome it is that government regulates everyone's behavior because none of us know what's best for us.

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 11:56 AM (ZKzrr)

219 And the heart of a beast in the place of a man’s heart was given…

Rowr! I’m a lion!

Posted by: President Obama at April 24, 2014 11:56 AM (HrUMd)

220
Some reporter got him to yammer on and on about side stuff until Bundy said something which could be Alinsky-ed.

Stay on topic morons. That MSM reporter is not your buddy.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 24, 2014 11:32 AM (KBvAm)


I keep saying that Media people are simply Democrat operatives. I also keep saying that one party control of the media is the most dangerous threat facing this nation.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:56 AM (bb5+k)

221 219 And the heart of a beast in the place of a man’s heart was given… Rowr! I’m a lion!
Posted by: President Obama at April 24, 2014 11:56 AM (HrUMd)

More like a pussy.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:56 AM (DrWcr)

222 A most wonderful ANZAC Day, aussie!

It's not a matter of let it burn.

If things continue along the way they have for the last 6 years, it will burn and there is not much we are gong to be able to do to stop it.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (t3UFN)



Isn't the definition of let it burn what these lovely circular firing squads are about?

Honestly, every thread on this devolves into people talking right past one another because there does not seem to be an agreement that the Burning Times will come.

On the one side are those pointing out that Math is a stone cold bitch and that which cannot go on forever won't.

On the other side are those who appear, as best I can tell, to reject the notion that we are approaching, if not past, the tipping point for terminal velocity.

If you do not accept the premise that we are facing catastrophic disaster due to near future entitlement spending shortfalls, then, yes, I can comprehend why you think let it burn is childish.

I will leave it for the Horde to ponder what I think of such a rejection of that premise.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:57 AM (mf5HN)

223 God only promised he would never flood the entire world again. He didn't mention fire, smoke and ash.

God showed Noah by the rainbow sign,
No more water, but fire next time.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 11:57 AM (rt3TY)

224 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:54 AM (DrWcr)

This country ends, when the power grid fails...

The war will be over power plants, and who controls electricity...

Because when the lights go off in major cities... as they no longer have any large stores of food, or water... it will be chaos.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 11:57 AM (84gbM)

225
Speaking of regulations...

obama's FDA is now regulating electronic cigarettes.

Why??

Because they can.

#samereasondogslicktheirballs

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:58 AM (aqrfx)

226 224 Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 11:57 AM (84gbM)

Quite Logistics and Efficiency wins resource wars.

Trust me I have plans on using the idiotic coagulation of the cities to raise hell if the need ever arises.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:58 AM (TE35l)

227
Damn right Bundy worded it poorly and now has lost a hell of a lot of support of many people and momentum to talk about federal govt overreach.

What a dumbass.*


*assumes facts not in evidence yet that the NYT is quoting correctly.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (hJauc)

228
Government spending money my children haven't earned yet and destroying their chances to do so is not a good thing.

This is the ultimate in taxation without representation.

We need a Constitutional amendment to require a balanced budget. Faster, please.

Notice that states that have one tend to not be nearly as boned as states that do not have one, or were they can lie about being "balanced". I'm looking at you, Californication.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (1hM1d)

229 Hi - would that be the movie Tomorrow when the War Began?

Haven't seen it but it is an Aussie one


Yeah, got the title wrong. I was familiar with the book series it was based on and wanted to see how the movie turned out.

Tried for upbeat ending, but when you know the rest of the series...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (rt3TY)

230
You think "libertarian" Camille Paglia will write about regulating e-cigs?

hahahahahaha!

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (aqrfx)

231 Margarita, I garee about the media.
Although i would also blame corporations for funding the media 's state of oblivion, or selling out .

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (nqBYe)

232 223 Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 11:57 AM (rt3TY)

We are SO immoral as a nation....

God help us, God punish us.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (TE35l)

233 130 After the burning times everyone will agree with us!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 24, 2014 11:37 AM (+lsX1)


The survivors anyway.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (bb5+k)

234 I predict an Ace post on Bundy later today.
I also predict chaos on that thread.
Good day.

You can run but you cannot hide.

Posted by: Mjölnir, banhammer of Thor at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (hn5v5)

235 The BEST thing that could happen is peaceful break-up...
Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:54 AM (TE35l)

It won't be peaceful though. The mechanisms are already in place to pretty much guarantee that will not be possible. Practically every government department now has a militarized 'enforcement' element. DHS is in the process of establishing and internal security force in direct violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. People who once were considered "average everyday citizens" are massively armed and angry.

It won't be peaceful.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 12:00 PM (BZAd3)

236 If we can borrow an endles supply of revenue, why do we bother citizens with any taxes?

They will figure this out eventually, I think. No taxes, just print more. Free money, no consequences.


Until there are.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 24, 2014 12:00 PM (HrUMd)

237 corps and donors.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 12:00 PM (nqBYe)

238 God help us, God punish us.

God's being efficient. He's letting us punish ourselves.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 12:01 PM (rt3TY)

239 oh And fedzilla for wanting the lions shre of the pie without regards to our solvency.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 12:01 PM (nqBYe)

240 225 Speaking of regulations... obama's FDA is now regulating electronic cigarettes. Why?? Because they can. #samereasondogslicktheirballs
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:58 AM (aqrfx)

It's because they're fascist cocksuckers.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 12:01 PM (DrWcr)

241 If you do not accept the premise that we are facing catastrophic disaster due to near future entitlement spending shortfalls, then, yes, I can comprehend why you think let it burn is childish.

I will leave it for the Horde to ponder what I think of such a rejection of that premise.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 11:57 AM (mf5HN)


So our Highness, you will be boot stomping and throat punching? Me? I agree with your view. Want a Corgi?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 12:01 PM (HVff2)

242
obama: More sanctions on Russia "teed up"

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 12:01 PM (aqrfx)

243 Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (1hM1d)

We have enough States who have passed a Balanced Budget Amendment Bill to call a Constitutional Convention...

Media, and Feds? Crickets....

We need some State Governor to just CALL it.... force the question into the public, and Courts.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 12:01 PM (84gbM)

244 235 Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 12:00 PM (BZAd3)

I said the best.

The communists and SuperStatists in DC will never allow the states to use their resources.

234 Posted by: Mjölnir, banhammer of Thor at April 24, 2014 11:59 AM (hn5v5)

I'll be polite but I am past caring how hypocritically butthurt Al-NYT acts....

my ass needs slimming you can fire at will.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 12:02 PM (TE35l)

245 Just this morning a conversation with the best friend centered on: he is on fast track to go high in a very large company, the issue is he was just offered "your next position within the company," it's in California.

Within three years he can be on the way to financial security if he takes this position, his career stops here if he says no. We went through positive and negative of the decision. His biggest sticking point was that we are set here where we are to continue putting food on the table if the burning starts, moving to California removes much of that. So if he goes he has to hope for at least three years before the fire really gets going.

We have actually reached this point in America. Hard to believe.

Posted by: traye at April 24, 2014 12:02 PM (obTTJ)

246 Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 11:46 AM (flMT4)

Aussie,

God bless you Diggers and Kiwis. Don't take this the wrong way. I've read a number of books about POWs during the Pacific War and the memories of American POWs all say the same thing. You Aussies were a bunch of theives and liers, who saved many a Yanks ass.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 24, 2014 12:02 PM (hzpoi)

247
222 alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star

Hi there and thanks

Always love the march - lots of bands, lots of men in uniform......*sigh*

Best thing - seeing blokes really, really, really enjoying their reunions

Even though the boss of the Armed Forces says NO DRINKING while in uniform today - I'm expecting a big FU response

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 12:02 PM (flMT4)

248 *couriers to AlextheChick some brownies*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 12:02 PM (L8umz)

249
152 In oddly related news, I am convinced that the polar bears on bing today are around to nom me.

Are you tasty?

(Archer: phrasing?)

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 24, 2014 12:02 PM (1hM1d)

250 At least the media is paying attention to Bundy now...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 24, 2014 12:03 PM (9+ccr)

251 I keep saying that Media people are simply Democrat operatives. I also keep saying that one party control of the media is the most dangerous threat facing this nation.

Posted by: D-Lamp


...and I will add to that that most with an R beside their name are actually D's as well. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: dogfish at April 24, 2014 12:03 PM (nsOJa)

252
If we can borrow an endles supply of revenue, why do we bother citizens with any taxes ?

Wealth re-distribution and control of the plebes.

Posted by: socialists everywhere at April 24, 2014 12:03 PM (hJauc)

253 looks at the plate of brownies as they whiz by.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 12:03 PM (nqBYe)

254 At some point, namely now, our only alternative will be a new party. The sooner we coalesce pro-Constitutional Republic interests and forces, the better. The longer voters postpone the inevitable, the harder and less hope the future will permit.

The Republican Party represents the neoconservative never-ending-wars Bush faction with their trained cheetah McCain with his band of flying monkeys and turkeys Cornyn and McConnell. And the Democrat Party represents the neoliberal NEW never-ending-wars including open warfare against law abiding US Citizens at home enabled by the Bush Patriot Act "best intentions".

There is no getting anywhere as each party is designed to enable the plundering of all things good, and the utter destruction of the Middle Class into serfs. "Resistance is futile" if you play along for their post-constitutional authoritarian oligarchy. To think that if we all band together, we can reclaim either major party from the transnational corporations' clutch is vain.

There is no "taking back the GOP" from those whom the insiders represent. Just as there was no "taking back the Democrat Party" from the Marxist Left.

It would not matter how may VOTES you get. It's who COUNTS the votes that determines the victor. Given how ACA was "made" law, elections are shams in like manner. Before you know it, all government positions will be appointments. Elections are such a waste...

And there is no longer any expectation that within the Republican National Party at least, you're dealing with those who value and protect Rule of Law and our Constitutional Republic.

GOP USPS Mailer
Here's $.51 that you may as well throw in the trash if you don't send me your $30.00 donation to dethrone McConnell with just another McConnell wannabe who promises "to do whatever it takes to ..." nothing specific. Naturally, omitting words like "Constitution" or "Civil Rights" or "Rule of Law" let alone "Liberty and Justice for All."

"Joe, say it ain't so!"

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 24, 2014 12:03 PM (/vO0r)

255 Anzacs and Aussie....

Oy!

I've always had a soft spot for our younger siblings in the Anglic brotherhood of Nations.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 12:04 PM (TE35l)

256 In the good news column, you really can come back from a career-ending injury: http://tinyurl.com/lmyojzp

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 12:04 PM (L8r/r)

257 My prediction:


-stock up on leather armour and hockey goalie masks


Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 12:04 PM (GQ8sn)

258 257 My prediction:-stock up on leather armour and hockey goalie masks
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 12:04 PM (GQ8sn)

And shoulder pads. Don't forget the shoulder pads.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 12:05 PM (DrWcr)

259 What really chaps my ass is thinking about how good we could have it as a nation if it weren't for all the Dim/Prog/Coms who are hell bent on depriving us of it.

What did I do to deserve an enemy who hates me for breathing? I did nothing to them and I still want nothing more from life than to be left alone to pursue my passion and enjoy my short time on this earth with my family.

But nooooo, there's always some group of assholes who have to impose their will on me, and their will is always destructive of peace and harmony. They'll even claim to be on my side, then proceed to prove otherwise by their actions.

God, I'm glad I'm old.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 24, 2014 12:05 PM (0HooB)

260 It won't be peaceful.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 12:00 PM (BZAd3


It won't. I'm aware of 2 counties here in WI that got the heavy military armored vehicles. Juneau County population 26,000 very rural and poor. St. Croix County population 85,000 mostly urban next to the MN border.

Fuck Milwaukee or Dane (Madison) don't even have these types of armored vehicles. It won't be pretty when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 12:05 PM (HVff2)

261 EC leather?

o sure, you just like leather.

and goalie masks really remind me of horror shows. when non goalies apply them.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 12:06 PM (nqBYe)

262 At times like these I prefer to just find solace in the incomprehensible ramblings of commenters from the past, such as Paul on May 25, 2004:


"When they came for the Cryonically-Suspended Incubator Women, I
said nothing because I'm not a Cryonically-Suspended Incubator Woman.


When they came for the Legally Huntable Sub-Helots, I said nothing because I'm not a Legally Huntable Sub-Helot.


When they came for the Cyberclone Slaves, I said nothing because I'm not a Cyberclone Slave.


So when they came for me, I invented the Boson Reversal
Disintegrator and it turned out not to matter that none of those other
people were around any more."
Fuck politics. I'm working diligently on my Boson Reversal Disintegrator, and am getting the fuck out of here when it is complete. Who's with me?

Posted by: Sharkman at April 24, 2014 12:06 PM (TM1p8)

263
229 Brother Cavil

Now I need to watch that movie if I can find it somewhere

Looked it up on Wiki and it was filmed in a nice part of the country close by Sydney

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 12:06 PM (flMT4)

264 167 90 trillion in debt.
Can't fuck with math, it will burn

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 24, 2014 11:45 AM (R8hU


This is my understanding as well. I think a lot of people are just looking at the Federal Debt, and not looking at the future unfunded liabilities of Social Security etc.

The amount of money the government needs to pay future liabilities is ~ 90 trillion dollars. An impossible sum.


Either a lot of money has to be produced, or a lot of people have to die to make the numbers balance.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 12:06 PM (bb5+k)

265 "If we can borrow an endles supply of revenue, why do we bother citizens with any taxes ?"

Borrow is just another word for TAX.

Posted by: Chief Just Ice Roberts at April 24, 2014 12:06 PM (/vO0r)

266 260 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 12:05 PM (HVff2)

There are apps for that....

//Molotov, TOW, and Ignatius Edward Dean

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 12:06 PM (TE35l)

267 God showed Noah by the rainbow sign,



Um,

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 12:07 PM (uVkIH)

268 248 *couriers to AlextheChick some brownies*
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 12:02 PM (L8umz)

*sets up ambush for courier*

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 12:07 PM (DrWcr)

269 confidential to An Adult: Letting it burn IS making the best of a bad situation.

Posted by: jwpaine at April 24, 2014 12:07 PM (68O4K)

270 We're winning hearts and minds. We are winning the national arguments that will direct the future of our country. How do I know?

The Left in this country are so bereft of ideas and solutions for the problems besetting the people of the United States that their hero du jour is a French Marxist professor - this Picketty person. The French Marxist prof packs the same old shit in a a new book, and a new generation of American dupes and fellow travelers wallow in the thrills of enslavement and destitution and ruin. Well, I guess the home-grown Commies just don't have the juice or the Vox to get things going, so they grab the nearest foreign snake oil peddler and put him on a horse.

Freedom. Liberty. Free men and free markets. Get the word out and live the American Dream.

Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2014 12:07 PM (JBggj)

271 or a lot of people have to die to make the numbers balance.

I should think you'd be thanking me.

Posted by: Obamacare at April 24, 2014 12:08 PM (ZKzrr)

272 rick, i thought rainbows were now said to be caused by pollution.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 12:08 PM (nqBYe)

273 Perhaps there should be a march on DC wearing goalie masks...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 12:08 PM (L8umz)

274 Fuck Milwaukee or Dane (Madison) don't even have these types of armored vehicles. It won't be pretty when the shit hits the fan.

I'll laugh my ass off if they wind up getting used to quarantine the cities when it goes tits-up.

Now I need to watch that movie if I can find it somewhere

It was on NetFlix here, no idea availability for you but it's not that old...and local for you!

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 12:08 PM (rt3TY)

275 Drew,

What you're saying is that three people come to the scene of a fire.

One of them is an out-and-out pyromaniac, who throws gasoline onto the fire to make it burn faster. He helped set it in the first place.

Another is also a pyro, but he's dressed as a fireman, though his fire fighting technique is to blow hot air onto the fire, fanning the flames. Also helped pyro #1 to set it.

The third is at least willing to piss on the fire.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at April 24, 2014 12:08 PM (XrGnJ)

276 I don't think most people understands what a let it burn idea really means. Will it be an American Revolution, or a French Revolution? I fear it will be a French Revolution, and we won't be in charge.

Posted by: ExSnipe at April 24, 2014 11:48 AM (hzpoi)


Not at first, but I expect we will flip the script.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 12:09 PM (bb5+k)

277 "What the hell do I care what one rancher in Oklahoma thinks about the poverty rate of the country's black population? That's not the issue here. The issue is the government sending armed thugs to seize an American citizen's livelihood. So you can quit trying to get me off topic and instead you can focus on the real issue at stake here. Let's talk about THAT."

Actually the issue is tearing up the system of land tenure that said the privileges, rights, duties and obligations of tenants was defined without regard to who was the tenant and who was the landlord. You didn't like that. Your crew was prepared to kill federal agents enforcing a court order, because Cliven Bundy reminded you of Victor Davis Hanson's grandpa, and the BLM is kinda jackbooty and uniformy like the SS.

You made it a beauty contest and you got stuck with a pig.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 24, 2014 12:09 PM (5xmd7)

278 *sets up ambush for courier*
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 12:07 PM (DrWcr)

stand behind insomniac with a nicely wrapped gift box of Surprise.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 12:09 PM (nqBYe)

279 There are actual racists afoot. We get all into
crinch mode all the time because of all the unfair accusations of dog
whistles and whatnot, but there are actual racists who say racisty
things because that's how they express their racism. Those people are
not good people.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 11:43 AM (JtwS4)

FWIW, as a Canadian who grew up in Vancouver, B.C. in the '50's - '60's, the term "negro" was considered to be the polite way to describe a person of African descent. I am wondering if Mr. Bundy is simply using the terminology which was considered to be "polite" in his youth? I say "polite" because "political correctness" had not yet become a thing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2014 12:09 PM (TKUw7)

280


Lookit, there aren't any other people in the US congress as rock-ribbed conservative as John Boner, Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor, an dyou combine htat with the goddamn senior leadership in the Senate which is HUGELY conservative, you just can't argue against the huge ocean of conservatism there.

We are talking big time conservatives. You guys just can't see it because of all the LIES.

That's it!!!




Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bonehead liberal at April 24, 2014 12:09 PM (xggaJ)

281 add s

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 12:09 PM (nqBYe)

282
156 Some people seem to think that electing GOPe RINOs will slow down the "burn." I wonder where they get this delightful notion.

Ok, thought experiment. Let's say the overturn of the House in 2010 never happened and that Nancy is still the speaker.

Do you think we would be better off, worse off, or about the same?

I think not only would it be burning, we'd all be en fuego.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 24, 2014 12:10 PM (1hM1d)

283 The third is at least willing to piss on the fire.

If he was smart, he'd be lining up supplies and contractors to build the replacement.

...and working out how to take out #1 and #2.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 12:10 PM (rt3TY)

284 "Adults have to make the best of a bad situation. Adults have to muddle through and make least-bad decisions.

Children bitch and run away. Which is their right, as children. "

Actually children get in the car and ride along because they're told to. Adults figure they'll sit it out rather than ride with the wrong sort.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 24, 2014 12:11 PM (5xmd7)

285 *blinks*

Wow the moveable feast sure is garnering attention... have some turtle soup while at it. Babette just prepared it fresh.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 12:11 PM (L8umz)

286 Yeah, pretty much everything Drew said is childish bullshit.

Posted by: An adult


A self-refuting comment if there ever was one.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 12:11 PM (ujux6)

287 Boehner has flunked the Hastert rule at least 6 (six) times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hastert_Rule

And the GOPe (House fembot subdivision) won't replace him and I'm the problem.

Try telling your boss tomorrow you couldn't get the job done, gave his money to the competition to do it and got DO NOT WANT. I'm pretty sure that counts as a letter of resignation.

Posted by: DaveA at April 24, 2014 12:11 PM (DL2i+)

288 I predict an Ace post on Bundy later today. I also predict chaos on that thread.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

Beer thread. When Ace mentions Christine O'Donnell and/or Todd Akin, take a drink.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix


Indeed. However There are several high profile Fox broadcasters as well as a number of HP blogs that have invested in Bundy and will try to get him to be clearer. Interestingly, the interview by the former sheriff who claimed a plan to put women and children in front and then walked back his assertion hasn't gotten the airplay expected. Maybe partly because dozens of others interviewed said they were at the meeting and nothing of the sort was ever discussed. Every time Bundy opens his mouth he says something strange because the man can't speak well. He's an old rancher not a politician. Running a long clip to prove he is a racist necessitates a deeper look at how poorly he expresses himself.
I already mentioned the other day how the reporter from "The Root" on Fox called him a symbol for all old White Men who are All Racists. That is not gonna change.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 24, 2014 12:11 PM (NnPGb)

289 282 Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 24, 2014 12:10 PM (1hM1d)


Giggles is playing grabass with a guy who has more warheads than we do....

yeah burning is either figurative or literal but things ARE going to burn

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 12:11 PM (TE35l)

290 Ok, thought experiment. Let's say the overturn of the House in 2010 never happened and that Nancy is still the speaker.

Do you think we would be better off, worse off, or about the same?

I think not only would it be burning, we'd all be en fuego.

---


We'd be in the middle of Civil War 2 - Electric Boogaloo because they'd have forced through a bunch of BS as "law" instead of having Dingy Harry stall the Senate and Obama attempt to do it through executive order.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 12:12 PM (APuJ7)

291 Nothing much to add other than that I wish we'd gotten to save this one for the podcast.

Posted by: Andy at April 24, 2014 12:12 PM (2OaXr)

292 In the immortal words of R.J. MacReady, "Why don't we just... wait here for a little while... see what happens?"

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 24, 2014 12:12 PM (BAS5M)

293 If there were ever a hill not worth dying on the saintliness or lack thereof of Cliven Bundy is it.

Posted by: joncelli at April 24, 2014 12:13 PM (RD7QR)

294
Ok, thought experiment. Let's say the overturn of the House in 2010 never happened and that Nancy is still the speaker.
Do you think we would be better off, worse off, or about the same?
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 24, 2014 12:10 PM (1hM1d)

Utopia !

Posted by: Media Morons at April 24, 2014 12:13 PM (I9I9J)

295 And shoulder pads. Don't forget the shoulder pads.

And your cup. Always wear your cup.

Posted by: socialists everywhere at April 24, 2014 12:13 PM (hJauc)

296 If there were ever a hill not worth dying on

Sorry, the last hill to fight on was way back there. It's all ditches for bitches now.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 12:14 PM (rt3TY)

297 292 Posted by: Count de Monet at April 24, 2014 12:12 PM (BAS5M)

Yup...

Global Warmening 2018!

//Sven Antarctic Citzien

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 12:14 PM (TE35l)

298
246 ExSnipe

Hi and I don't take it the wrong way at all - I've read about our larrikin troops - the stories from their stay in Egypt before they were sent to the slaughterhouse of Gallipoli and ANZAC Cove are quite crazy

Could you lead me to some books from the American sidethen because I'm into military history

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 12:14 PM (flMT4)

299
CBS covered the ranch last night by repeating the words "armed militia" over and over with pictures of scary guns. Not a single frame of a BLM agent. Not one.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 24, 2014 11:55 AM (bFA85)



Again, the media ARE the fucking enemy. They are propaganda agents for socialism, and they need to be confronted.

THEY are the reason Democrats get elected. They are the enablers of our tormentors.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 12:14 PM (bb5+k)

300
stupid socks. not even the right color.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2014 12:14 PM (hJauc)

301 More let it burn from California:

Our early release program, which is reducing our fascist!! overpopulation in prison is a real bang-up success. I bet Holder is modeling his program after ours.

http://tinyurl.com/mhj7su7

Posted by: PJ at April 24, 2014 12:15 PM (ZWaLo)

302
Again, the media ARE the fucking enemy. They are propaganda agents for socialism, and they need to be confronted.

THEY are the reason Democrats get elected. They are the enablers of our tormentors.

---

I'm reminded of an old Bloom County comic where there is a military invasion.

"Friend or foe?"

"Press!"

*shots fired*

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 12:15 PM (APuJ7)

303
This is my understanding as well. I think a lot of people are just looking at the Federal Debt, and not looking at the future unfunded liabilities of Social Security etc.

That's true. But there are ways of screwing you out of those.

First, you're not guaranteed to get those items. Congress can...revise...the amounts you get.

Second, via Death Panels in Obamacare, the number of years on SS and such can be...shortened.

Third, they can always inflate away the problem. I used to tell people that at some point Social Security will cease, and I would get bitched at. I took that in stride, and now will tell them yes, there will be SS in the future. It's just that the $1,500/month that you get will be able to buy a loaf of bread, and maybe some bacon. If you're lucky.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 24, 2014 12:15 PM (1hM1d)

304 We have an opportunity to turn this around...

It IS possible.... but won't happen because of the Political System in Washington DC.

We have enough resources here in America to really get the economy cranking.... but our own Government won't let us use them...

I am currently sitting on top of an oil and gas shale field.... paying $4.25 for gas ($1.00 more than in Texas according to my sis).... in an area with 30% unemployment... Because.... Governments (central California).

Yet we see the Government putting infrastructure in place for IT to survive... as it militarizes the Police force.... and forces anyone in the Pentagon with any Honor our to be replaced with PC Officers who will follow orders blindly....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 12:16 PM (84gbM)

305 Andy, may i ask a question?

while doing the podcast you have a question site for questions.
Why is it done separately on another site instead of here ? That needs an email etc? which i should have but don't anylonger .

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 12:16 PM (nqBYe)

306 "Let it burn" is an interesting concept, that we are trying here locally.

We live in a 1,700+ unit historical neighborhood.
And we have a Voluntary Community Association which I serve on.
NOT an HOA, but with voluntary membership, and voluntary dues.

The new kids all want to be on the Board, so that we can move forward into the future, in a neighborhood that in it's entirety is on the National Register.

So they get on the Board, but seem to fail at every simple task that comes their way. They want the cool ideas, but have no experience to take a vision to completion.

In other words, these clowns could not come up with, nor execute a plan to get a Sailor laid in a South American whore house on payday night after six months at sea.

And this time, us old folks are just making sure that the flames only consume the useless deadwood,without weakening the main structure of the organization.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 12:16 PM (X2NEw)

307
Nothing much to add other than that I wish we'd gotten to save this one for the podcast.

Posted by: Andy at April 24, 2014 12:12 PM


You could do a dramatic reading.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2014 12:16 PM (hJauc)

308 I'm sure one of the many former owners of the 90,000 acres seized by the BLM from Texas is a real racist. I suggest those inclined go find that yahoo when the gunfire starts along the Red River.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 24, 2014 12:17 PM (XuSFy)

309 It's just that the $1,500/month that you get will be able to buy a loaf of bread, and maybe some bacon. If you're lucky.

No bacon. Not halal.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 12:17 PM (rt3TY)

310 I still plan on voting in November. I am going to give it another try. It's never going to be exactly what I want, but something is better than nothing. Call me crazy, but I think there is still hope. There's still some of us left, and more will join.

Posted by: ALH at April 24, 2014 12:17 PM (yAPdC)

311
My 2 cents here.


I understand Let it burn and let it Burn.

Can't subscribe to either.

Rather keep on trying to fix it as best I'm able.

Both viewpoints suggest to me (this is my personal outlook) giving up.

Can't do that.

So call me Eddie Willers if you wish,that's how it is.

I hold no resentment toward proponents of either course, it simply isn't in me to quit.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 24, 2014 12:17 PM (SAMxH)

312 >>>So don't look at those of us who have washed our hands of this mess as the ones unwilling to stop the burning

>>>Adults have to make the best of a bad situation. Adults have to muddle through and make least-bad decisions.


You have to know when your "help" is "enabling" and stop "helping". Sometimes you have to let, that which you love fail, so that lessons are learned. That's conservative values. And that's adult thinking.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Now Posting From Chrome at April 24, 2014 12:18 PM (0q2P7)

Thursday Morning News Dump

Follow me on twitter.

Posted by: BenK at 09:07 AM



Comments

1 Giggity.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 24, 2014 09:10 AM (wNF3N)

2 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of Americans filing new claims for
unemployment benefits increased more than expected last week, but the
rise probably does not suggest a shift in labor market conditions as the
underlying trend continued to point to strength.






No of course not. The economy has never been better

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:11 AM (1Jaio)

3 TOKYO (AP) — Accusing Russia of failing to live up to its commitments,
President Barack Obama warned Moscow on Thursday that the United States
has another round of economic sanctions "teed up" — even as he
acknowledged those penalties may do little to influence Vladimir Putin's
handling of the crisis in Ukraine.






Well done Prezzy Limp Wrists you're making Jimmy Carter look like George Patton

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:13 AM (1Jaio)

4 So if Harry Reid was caught banging a Facilitated Communicator who was banging their patient, would it sink him?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:13 AM (a26oX)

5 A Legal Way to Kill?



That article is BS. The laws against using the military to kill or arrest US citizens only apply to "in the US". US citizens who take up arms on the side of the enemy and fight against the US in foreign wars deserve what they get.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:13 AM (T2V/1)

6 TOKYO (Reuters) - President Barack Obama will use a state visit to Japan
on Thursday to try to reassure Tokyo and other Asian allies of his
commitment to ramping up U.S. engagement in the region, despite Chinese
complaints that Washington's real aim is to contain Beijing's rise.






Considering what Barry has done around the world and to our allies, Japan and our Asian allies should know that they are screwed

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:15 AM (1Jaio)

7
What an odd name for a bill. "Guns Everywhere. "

Sounds bad.

Posted by: Soothie § at April 24, 2014 09:15 AM (aqrfx)

8 Senate Forecast: More Potential Problems For Democrats



Only if the Repukes don't throw it away with amnesty.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:16 AM (T2V/1)

9 Everything seems to be about politicized numbers these days - even the weather, of which I am glad to let everyone know that the early estimates for April are that it will be in the top 20 Warmest Aprils Ever (along the Atlantic Seaboard)!
Of course, the 35 degree low in SE VA this am it a problem, but hey, we'll "readjust" that reading ASAP!

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 24, 2014 09:16 AM (gXRIG)

10 Were any of you here formerly of the Protest Warrior site back in the day? Just curious.....

Posted by: KWdreaming at April 24, 2014 09:16 AM (8QW0x)

11 maybe I should become a Sikh...

I used to call my knife Skull Piercer

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:17 AM (TE35l)

12 The Unemployment Insurance Surreality Continues


The real surreality about unemployment isn't the insurance, its the rate which is above 20%.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:18 AM (T2V/1)

13 10 Posted by: KWdreaming at April 24, 2014 09:16 AM (8QW0x)

Yes but I mostly lurked.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:18 AM (TE35l)

14
George ClooneyandSteve Wynnrecently learnedthere really are some thingsyou shouldn’t bring up at the dinner table.

During a glitzy dinner in Las Vegas two weeks ago, the actor, 52, and
hotel magnate, 72,got into a tiff over politics, specifically,
President Obama.

“He called the president an asshole … that is a fact … I said the
President was my longtime friend and then he said ‘your friend is an
asshole.’ … At that point I told Steve that HE was an asshole and I
wasn’t going to sit at his table while he was being such a
jackass,”Clooney told the Las Vegas Review Journalin an email sent via
his publicist.







I can see Clowny throwing a complete hissy fit over Steve Wynn being honest with him

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:19 AM (1Jaio)

15 Transparency: DHS Watchdog Altered Reports As He Sought Top Job With Obama Administration


The article I linked to this morning said the IGs were being pressured by the corrupt Obamanites to water down their reports.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:20 AM (T2V/1)

16 Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:13 AM (T2V/1)

That's not the point of the article.

The point is that Obama and Holder are manipulating the law, trying to gain for themselves the total authority to kill anyone, at any time, anywhere..

Very few people are claiming that Americans fighting against us in other countries should be afforded Constitutional protections.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:22 AM (QFxY5)

17
Two weeks after Judge Colleen McMahon begrudgingly dismissed that case, the feds decided to gloat, and so they leaked a 16-page summary of their "secrets" to a reporter at NBC News.

This, in every way, is the story of the Obama administration.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 09:22 AM (JtwS4)

18 Report: Benghazi Attacks Could Have Been Prevented if U.S. Didn’t Arm al Qaeda


A lot of things could have prevented Benghazi. Not having Cankles as SOS would have been another. Having real Marine guards was also an option.


And guess what, we are arming Al Qaeda in Syria now.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:22 AM (T2V/1)

19 The Adolescent President


Really? That old?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:23 AM (uVkIH)

20 Good for the Sikh. I think the whole federal jury duty thing is a pile of crap, based on my personal experience. We weren't treated much differently from the prisoners.

No books, no cell phones or other electronic devices, no smoking for the day basically, no two inch pocketknives; oh, and you have to show up or the judge is likely to send someone out to arrest you.

Of course the court employees and attorneys were all walking around with THEIR cell phones; RHIP.

Not that this citizen was bitter or anything.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 24, 2014 09:23 AM (wNF3N)

21 I did try to read 'A legal way to kill' and my mind went flat-line.

Far simpler to say. If you take up arms against the US with foreign enemies, get in a firefight with the US military, and get your posterior blown to hamburger; well it sux to be you but you asked for it.

Now the willy-nilly way this administration is using drones coupled with these Executive Findings that seems to allow the President to sign death sentences, that I have issue with.

For example that teen that got blown up at a cafe. The teen was an American citizen with no known links to terrorism. His father was a known terrorist but he wasn't. And this administration dropped a missile on the cafe that killed the teen and other bystanders, but missed its target.

There was so much fail in that operation. Far worse than when we bombed that wedding party out in the Iraqi desert. But what does this President say about blowing up a kid, he was callous and dismissive. And the State Media Bureau gave him a pass.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:23 AM (a26oX)

22 I just got an email form Boehner,

This was my reply.

"You fucking 2 faced, talk out both sides of your mouth lying Bitch!

You need to fucking go.

Your stance on illegals (fuck you and the press I don't call them immigrants. they should be shot on sight).

I will do everything in my power to unseat you , you lying SOB.

Fuck you very Much,'

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 24, 2014 09:24 AM (NB/bQ)

23 I can see Clowny throwing a complete hissy fit over Steve Wynn being honest with him


Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:19 AM (1Jaio)


Pretty boy hilljacks are so funny when they try to act like smarty pants.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 09:24 AM (m4SHR)

24 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 24, 2014 09:24 AM (g6VuL)

25 21 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:23 AM (a26oX)

Does the kill list include the people who aided the NVA and VC in Vietnam for academic reasons mind you?

I'm sorta tired of the Libs getting a pass on their red love.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:25 AM (TE35l)

26 I'm firmly in Hillary's corner. C'mon, now. I mean "really".

*Here's some something that is nothing...

Diedre: "Blah Sugar, Blah Ukraine, Blah Lis Weil."

Imus: "I'm against Vacuous, Undefined Things!"

Diedre: "You. Love. Oxygen."

Imus: "I'll fire people because they Said Things. You heard Me."

Staff: "well, dude, that's you know -huh?"

Imus: "Hillary's m'girl! ...twenty-seven past the hour."

jingle

Posted by: Don Imus, Idiot at April 24, 2014 09:25 AM (lq3Ak)

27 Only if the Repukes don't throw it away with amnesty.

If it doesn't happen, it's only because we rattle cages and enough House GOP members are spooked.

Even the wacko 'realists' are having trouble pretending the GOP isn't dead-set on this.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 09:25 AM (le5Zp)

28 I'll just be taking your apostrophes.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 09:26 AM (mf5HN)

29 #1 way to bridge the confidence gap: "Buy your own (damn) birth control."

Hell, yes.
How about "stop whining"?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 09:27 AM (8zTpe)

30
We could cut unemployment benefits rapidly without people starving in the streets, but we would have to compromise our principles by simultaneously reducing regulation and getting rid of the minimum wage.

Wait, all of those things are supposedly conservative positions, so explain to me how our representatives are making the economy worse costing us extra money, and introducing programs that add costs and exacerbate the problem, and still expect us to vote for them?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 24, 2014 09:27 AM (sBUAE)

31 Oh and they paid less than minimum wage too; $40 per day. That's $5 per hour for those fearful of math.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 24, 2014 09:27 AM (wNF3N)

32
I'll just be taking your apostrophes.

First they came for the ampersands, but I didn't have any ampersands so...

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 09:27 AM (JtwS4)

33 16 That's not the point of the article.

The
point is that Obama and Holder are manipulating the law, trying to gain
for themselves the total authority to kill anyone, at any time,
anywhere..

Very few people are claiming that Americans fighting
against us in other countries should be afforded Constitutional
protections.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:22 AM (QFxY5)


When President Obama decided sometime during his
first term that he wanted to be able to use unmanned aerial drones
in foreign lands to kill people, including Americans, he
instructed Attorney General Eric Holder to find a way to make it
legal—despite the absolute prohibition on governmental
extra-judicial killing in federal and state laws and in the
Constitution itself.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:27 AM (T2V/1)

34 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:23 AM (a26oX)

Operationally it's pathetic, but that's not the issue.

Obama is trying to make legal, under a veil of total secrecy, the power to order the death of anyone on earth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:28 AM (QFxY5)

35
The real surreality about unemployment isn't the insurance, its the rate which is above 20%.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:18 AM (T2V/1)


Not officially. In the USSA, all the numbers have been "Sovietized."


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:28 AM (bb5+k)

36 I just got an email form Boehner,

This was my reply.

"You fucking 2 faced, talk out both sides of your mouth lying Bitch!

You need to fucking go.

Your stance on illegals (fuck you and the press I don't call them immigrants. they should be shot on sight).

I will do everything in my power to unseat you , you lying SOB.

Fuck you very Much,'

I like your style.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 24, 2014 09:28 AM (thLL8)

37 A Sikh's what is awesome? What particular thing in their possession is worthy of adoration? The magnificent beard? The Kanga? The Kara?

Posted by: Earl to run the turbans at April 24, 2014 09:28 AM (Zdz/k)

38 Daisy cutter for Hanoi Jane stat! And a Mk.32 torpedo for the Quakers and their sloop.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:29 AM (a26oX)

39 Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:25 AM (TE35l)

Very good point.

Jane Fonda should be droned.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:29 AM (QFxY5)

40 >>I can see Clowny throwing a complete hissy fit over Steve Wynn being honest with him

And isn't it fitting that Mr. Anti-Paparazzi then ran to the press to complain about it?
Man up, buddy, and fight your own battles.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 09:29 AM (8zTpe)

41 ObamaLand, where everyday is Monday and you are always out of coffee.

Posted by: eman at April 24, 2014 09:30 AM (AO9UG)

42
I can see Clowny throwing a complete hissy fit over Steve Wynn being honest with him

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:19 AM (1Jaio)


These actor folk live in a complete fantasy land bubble. Clooney has probably never had a conversation with a prominent person who is grounded in reality.


Most of the people he works with are employed in the fantasy and make believe industry.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:30 AM (bb5+k)

43 "What did Bush do on 9/11? He ran away and hid.
George Clooney


But But But I thought we were suppose to respect the President because of the Office?

Fuckin hypocrite

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:30 AM (t3UFN)

44 Posted by: Don Imus, Idiot at April 24, 2014 09:25 AM (lq3Ak)

Ever since he dried out Imus has been an annoying, humorless, intolerable, bore.

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 24, 2014 09:30 AM (OtQXp)

45
Yes, Vic, in foreign lands. That is not limited to the battlefield. Note the innocent teenager hit with a drone upthread. Due process is a thing.

Do you want to be targeted for execution just because you left the country? I've left the country lots of times. It's a handy freedom to have.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 09:30 AM (JtwS4)

46 "I'll just be taking your apostrophes."
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 09:26 AM (mf5HN)

Who's apostrophes are you threatening, Ma'am -?

We'll tell the fellas, should you take their "danglers".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (lq3Ak)

47 20
Good for the Sikh. I think the whole federal jury duty thing is a pile
of crap, based on my personal experience. We weren't treated much
differently from the prisoners.

No books, no cell phones or other
electronic devices, no smoking for the day basically, no two inch
pocketknives; oh, and you have to show up or the judge is likely to send
someone out to arrest you.

Of course the court employees and attorneys were all walking around with THEIR cell phones; RHIP.

Not that this citizen was bitter or anything.


Posted by: GnuBreed at April 24, 2014 09:23 AM (wNF3N)


Yes, federal jury duty sux and at my last call we were treated like slugs. But I don't think anyone should be allowed to carry knives into court, ceremonial or otherwise.
Perhaps if I give a .357 a "ceremonial name" I can carry it into court as well?

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (T2V/1)

48 For you AlextheChick
http://tinyurl.com/mlwse3a

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (a26oX)

49 More on the Wynn/Clowny dust up:



Wynn told the Las Vegas Review Journal that Clooney likes his alcohol and 'got drunk' after drinking tequila shots.
'When he's drinking, he considers himself a close personal buddy of the president,' the said.
'Everybody who's in my business, the casino business, knows to take actors with a grain of salt.' Wynn added Clooney's partners were 'mortified.'





It's nice when someone shows up Clowny for the buffoon that he is. And kudos for calling Barry an asshole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (1Jaio)

50 Obama is trying to make legal, under a veil of total secrecy, the power to order the death of anyone on earth.

Which is why I'll always have some respect for Rand Paul. He filibustered until Obama was forced to concede that he wouldn't use drones on Americans in America.

He also commented on the Bundy affair, unlike any other candidate for the GOP.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (le5Zp)

51 # A Legal Way To Kill

---

What is it with this administration and doing victory laps in the press? I'm just glad it's biting them in the ass.

# Senate Forecast: More Potential Problems For Dems

---

I'm hoping for a 1994-style ass-whooping in the Senate.


# Gov't Employee Threatened Mass Murder

---

Are we sure she isn't part of the BLM now?


# Rerport: Benghazi Attacks Could Have Been Prevented If US Didn't Arm Al Qaeda

---

Thanks, British media, for doing the jobs that American media are too corrupt to do.


# This Steve Wynn Seems Like A Decent Fellow

---

I'm liking Wynn a lot after reading that story. And Clooney's an idiot. Smug Alert!


# 'Access Shock' Prompts WA Bureaucrats To Ban Narrow Insurance Networks

---

Forthcoming headline - "Insurance companies pull out of Washington State"


# Sikh's Are Pretty Awesome

---

That is a group you really don't want to screw with. Ask the splattered remains of Indira Ghandi.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (APuJ7)

52 I wouldn't watch a (free to me) PPV viewing of Gravity because that asshat Clooney is in it. Fuck him; I'll not put a dime in his pocket willingly.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (wNF3N)

53 47 Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (T2V/1)

I call mine Tiffany Anne....

If the donks get to play faith games we should get to play faith games

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (TE35l)

54
lulz: Putin warns Ukraine about using force against its people

Posted by: Soothie § at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (aqrfx)

55

I can see Clowny throwing a complete hissy fit over Steve Wynn being honest with him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:19 AM (1Jaio)


Clooney shouldn't be attacking the integrity and or honesty of anyone. That crap movie he made about Edward Murrow was full of lies. Duggan was a commie and either fell out a window putting on his galoshes or jumped. Personally, I think he committed suicide and staged it so his wife, also a commie, would get his life insurance. Annie Moss was a commie and lied her little ass off while under oath. Murrow had so many commie friends it was ridiculous.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (8c12T)

56 Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:27 AM (T2V/1)

Yes...I read the article.

The point hasn't changed. Obama wants the freedom to kill anyone at any time. And his legal justification is being kept secret.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (QFxY5)

57 And we can expect Wynn to be audited in 3...2...1...

(Which is probably why Clooney made Wynn's comments public.)

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (8zTpe)

58 “The problem is, we elected a manager and we need a leader. Let’s face it, Bush is just dim.” George Clooney.


But obama is? Hypocrite

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (t3UFN)

59 Well someone in Florida won the $150 million Powerball annuity last night.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:33 AM (a26oX)

60
the high-end cough syrup that's become the lean of choice for rap stars has officially been taken off the market, all because of its reputation as a widely abused drug.

A rep for Actavis -- famous for the highly-refined cough syrup -- tells TMZ, "Given [recent media attention], Actavis has made the bold and unprecedented decision to cease all production and sales of its Promethazine Codeine product."

The Actavis rep adds, "This attention has glamorized the unlawful and dangerous use of the product, which is contrary to its approved indication."

Before Actavis pulled the plug on the product, the street value of a pint bottle hovered around $800 -- but sources familiar with the market tell TMZ, rappers are now offering insane sums to buy up whatever's left. We're told one prominent rapper has already offered his dealer up to $100,000 to get whatever he can.

http://tinyurl.com/m8g9b4s

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 09:34 AM (kdS6q)

61 "Well someone in Florida won the $150 million Powerball annuity last night."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:33 AM (a26oX)

Drone'd

Posted by: Obama at April 24, 2014 09:34 AM (lq3Ak)

62 I'll just be taking your apostrophes.

First they came for the ampersands, but I didn't have any ampersands so...



Here, have some cheap chinese knock-offs.
'''''''''''''''''''''' &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (uVkIH)

63 No of course not. The economy has never been better


Posted by: TheQuietMan
==========
No shit.

This economy gets any "better" and we'll have to call in the mortician.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (VjL9S)

64 59 Well someone in Florida won the $150 million Powerball annuity last night.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:33 AM (a26oX)

Sadly, it was not me.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (DrWcr)

65
I will do everything in my power to unseat you , you lying SOB.

Fuck you very Much,'

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 24, 2014 09:24 AM (NB/bQ)


Will you vote for the Democrat if Boehner wins the primary?


I keep pointing out that the NRA will play whipsaw against stubborn elected officials. If the Republican won't stay true to their issue, they will support the Democrat.


In this game, if you don't take the heads of the people who betray you (by any legal means) then you don't get respect. Take a head, and you do.


Sometimes you have to throw your weight behind their opposition just to make sure they understand how serious you are about not being fucked with.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (bb5+k)

66 This economy gets any "better" and we'll have to call in the mortician.
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (VjL9S)

It's only mostly dead.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (DrWcr)

67 39 Jane Fonda should be droned.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:29 AM (QFxY5)

Jane Fonda should have been prosecuted for treason and executed. She met all the requirements in the Constitution for treason.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (T2V/1)

68 For you AlextheChick
http://tinyurl.com/mlwse3a
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (a26oX)



I want everything in that.


Oh Clooney. Do try to remember that it's best not to get into a pissing contest when you are talking to the gentleman who owns the building in which you are sitting. (I'm presuming this happened at one of the Wynn properties)


Of course, this also means we really do need to have a Moronpalooza in Vegas and have it at the Wynn.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (mf5HN)

69 Well someone in Florida won the $150 million Powerball annuity last night.



And a free IRS colonoscopy!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:36 AM (uVkIH)

70 Clooney's a real asshole.

Story:

My oldest stepson's friend at work was recently in Las Vegas on business. At his hotel, he spotted Clooney walking in the front lobby. He pulled out his smartphone and attempted to snap a pic of him. He wasn't in his path or his personal space, but Clooney saw him and pointed at him, "Don't you fucking do that!!!!" and walked away. He didn't take a pic and put his phone away. Then, moments later, Bill Murray walks in. Clooney and Murray were in town for a "Monuments Men" promotion. Murray had seen what happend and told him he didn't mind getting his picture taken. Next thing you know, Murray and him were deep into a shit ton of pics and selfies. When Murray left, he told the friend that if he sees him drunk and staggering on the Strip, to please do him a favour and steer him back to the hotel.


Clooney - raging asshole


Murray - fucking awesome!

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:36 AM (GQ8sn)

71 54
lulz: Putin warns Ukraine about using force against its people

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Putin's a professional troll in addition to being a dictator.

Remember when he asked to try on Patriots owner Robert Kraft's Super Bowl ring and then walked off with it?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 09:36 AM (APuJ7)

72
Anybody a fan of The Americans? Why lord, how many innocent people are the ruskies going to kill? And what is with the so called super patriots - Stan, Larrick, turning over secrets to the commies? Can't Stan figure out that he is being played? What did Larrick think the dirty commmies were going to do on the base? Maybe, Larrick will go nuts and start killing commmies? He better start with Phil/Liz.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 24, 2014 09:36 AM (8c12T)

73 Does the kill list include the people who aided the NVA and VC in Vietnam for academic reasons mind you?

I'm sorta tired of the Libs getting a pass on their red love.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:25 AM (TE35l)


Always thought Jane Fonda should have been arrested, tried, and possibly shot.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:36 AM (bb5+k)

74 Not gonna get excited about this election. Wouldn't be prudent. Will believe it when it happens.

Posted by: Fool me 8 or 9 times, shame on you at April 24, 2014 09:37 AM (yhJhK)

75 A prominent Japanese politician has
raised hackles as Barack Obama visits Tokyo by claiming it's an 'open
secret' that he and the first lady are headed for divorce, and that the
president has been using Secret Service agents to cover for him as he
pursues extramarital affairs.



He's on to Barry and Reggie



Hamada complained April 5 on his official blog about Obama's decision to visit Tokyo without first lady Michelle Obama in tow. 'His approval numbers are dragging down
near 30 per cent,' Hamada wrote, according to an English translation,
'and his failed leadership in some places brings him scorn as the
worst president of the postwar era.'




Not only that he's an asshole to boot

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:37 AM (1Jaio)

76 45 Do you want to be targeted for execution just
because you left the country? I've left the country lots of times. It's a
handy freedom to have.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 09:30 AM (JtwS4)

I am not familiar with that case, so no comment.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:37 AM (T2V/1)

77 Of course, this also means we really do need to have a Moronpalooza in Vegas and have it at the Wynn.



+1



The Wynn has a "European pool". Guess what that means?





Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:37 AM (GQ8sn)

78
Andrew Cuomo, leftist bully and blowhard, dodges a face to face debate with Rick Perry.

Probably because h wa's shocked that one of those folks he told to get out of NY has the chutzpah to come back and challenge him.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 24, 2014 09:37 AM (YbCsp)

79 "Well someone in Florida won the $150 million Powerball annuity last night."

We'll take it from here.

Posted by: I.R.S. at April 24, 2014 09:37 AM (lq3Ak)

80 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (mf5HN)

That's a fine idea.

The man knows how to run hotels.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:38 AM (QFxY5)

81 68 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 09:35 AM (mf5HN)

I'm game....

and majesty I'll even come in my human disguise...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:38 AM (TE35l)

82
Murray - fucking awesome!

I have heard so many similar Murray stories that at this point they have to be true. That's just who the guy is, and yes he's spectacularly awesome.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 09:38 AM (JtwS4)

83 The Wynn has a "European pool". Guess what that means?



Chevy Chase peed in it?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (uVkIH)

84 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:29 AM (QFxY5)

I dunno where the line is, but I'm sure there's a line.

I'm leery of setting it up at "fire fight" because that seems a bit to late (and to restrictive, every Al Qaeda camp will be looking for citizens to recruit as shields.)

Cannot target directly is more of a papering over (they'll just say they were targeting the guy next to him and missed.)

On the flip side saying "Presence at camp" Seems far to open to abuse as well. (We'll just define everything as a camp!)

What I certainly don't like is the rationale being secret, because it's something that needs to be discussed openly.

I want to combat terrorism, but I also know that freedom is messy, and I'd think I'd rather error on the side of protecting my freedom than on the side of eliminating all possible threats.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (HDwDg)

85 Always thought Jane Fonda should have been arrested, tried, and possibly shot.

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I need to find some Jane Fonda urinal stickers to bring to my grandfather's old American Legion post for old time's sake.

Those were apparently standard issue at VA hospitals, American Legion halls, VFW posts, etc., for at least a decade after Vietnam.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (APuJ7)

86 Japanese Prime Minister to the American President, "Please try the fugu, we made it especially for you."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (a26oX)

87
Clooney and some other Hwd hack have some investment is some booze and are trying to sell it to the casinos.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (8c12T)

88 So Access Shock knee jerking by bureaucrats will force companies to do business at a loss.

Could never have seen this coming, not in a million years.


And I just bet this will work out absolutely swimmingly.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 09:40 AM (BZAd3)

89 86 Japanese Prime Minister to the American President, "Please try the fugu, we made it especially for you."

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De-fugu-licious!

Posted by: Barry McFuckstick at April 24, 2014 09:40 AM (APuJ7)

90 When Murray left, he told the friend that if he sees him drunk and staggering on the Strip, to please do him a favour and steer him back to the hotel.


Clooney - raging asshole


Murray - fucking awesome!
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:36 AM (GQ8sn)



Bill Murray sounds like a great guy in general. There was the link up here a few weeks ago about Murray participating in a charity event for a wounded soldier and Murray went to the bar with everyone afterwards, saw the vet sitting by himself and promptly went off and started bringing back beautiful women for the guy.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 09:40 AM (mf5HN)

91 But I don't think anyone should be allowed to carry knives into court, ceremonial or otherwise.
Perhaps if I give a .357 a "ceremonial name" I can carry it into court as well?


Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (T2V/1)



Your pic with the Grabber showed you carrying a Smith and Wesson? Didn't you name it "Vera"?


Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:40 AM (GQ8sn)

92 Saw this from someone named Ryan Mullowney:

"If women can do everything men can, how come they've never successfully oppressed an entire gender?"

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 09:40 AM (VjL9S)

93 >>A prominent Japanese politician has
raised hackles as Barack Obama visits Tokyo by claiming it's an 'open secret' that he and the first lady are headed for divorce...

I know that he's saying this to piss off Obama, but Obama's fake marriage is at the bottom of any list of Obama failures. Probably just saying this because he doesn't want to say "colluding with America's enemies - Iran, AQ and Muslim Brotherhood."

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 09:41 AM (8zTpe)

94 52 I wouldn't watch a (free to me) PPV viewing of Gravity because that asshat Clooney is in it. Fuck him; I'll not put a dime in his pocket willingly.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (wNF3N)



It was pretty terrible anyways.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:41 AM (bb5+k)

95 The Wynn has a "European pool". Guess what that means?







Chevy Chase peed in it?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (uVkIH)


It means the Ettes don't need to bother packing tops.


Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:41 AM (GQ8sn)

96 87
Clooney and some other Hwd hack have some investment is some booze and are trying to sell it to the casinos.

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And he went about this by getting into a pissing match with Steve fucking Wynn? Clooney's a genius.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 09:42 AM (APuJ7)

97 I need to find some Jane Fonda urinal stickers to bring to my grandfather's old American Legion post for old time's sake.

Those were apparently standard issue at VA hospitals, American Legion halls, VFW posts, etc., for at least a decade after Vietnam.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (APuJ7)

They are in all the urinals at the Sub Vet's House up in Groton CT. Best piss I ever had

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:42 AM (t3UFN)

98 If you are attending a terrorist convention or attempting to join a terrorist organization run by your family, like that teen was, drone their ass!

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 24, 2014 09:43 AM (8c12T)

99 96 Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 09:42 AM (APuJ7)

While true remember...

Prince Reebus and Johnny Boehner lose to these folk

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:43 AM (TE35l)

100 98 Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 24, 2014 09:43 AM (8c12T)

"He should have picked a better dad..."

//Preznit Daddy Issues

Forgive me, but Nixon didn't get to drone Bill Clinton in Moscow

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:44 AM (TE35l)

101 One of the only times I read Cigar Aficionado was at a barber shop, big profile of Steve Wynn, very interesting guy. Rich as Croesus, too, of course.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 24, 2014 09:44 AM (ZshNr)

102 Perhaps if I give a .357 a "ceremonial name" I can carry it into court as well?

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (T2V/1)

Works for me!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:44 AM (QFxY5)

103 Only if the Repukes don't throw it away with amnesty.

If they pass amnesty, they'll not get my vote. Why would I vote for anyone who doesn't care about the sovereignty of our nation? LiB!

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 24, 2014 09:44 AM (Ph479)

104 Is Jane Fonda going to live forever? Sheesh! That woman will not go away. She has loads of money but must constantly keep herself in the public eye. Just fucking retire already!

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 24, 2014 09:44 AM (8c12T)

105

The TV just told me NASA is "watching" an iceberg move "slowly" off a glacier. NASA says the slowly moving iceberg, which is 8x size of Manhattan, is "not a threat but a warning."

Oh my.

Posted by: Soothie § at April 24, 2014 09:44 AM (aqrfx)

106 Wife won't have anything on TV in morning except NBC's Today show with Matt Lauer and all the other bints.

Happy happy happy. Pap.

Sprinkled with some digs at conservatives, and lotsa love for them progressives.

It's the Oceania of 1984, and I am watching the walls.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 24, 2014 09:45 AM (tmFlQ)

107 The Wynn is also the same hotel where Prince Harry (?) went on his Moron vacation with tons of chicks showing up. I forget how much damage was done to his suite.


Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:45 AM (GQ8sn)

108 Three to one odds that SCOAMT's new round of sanctions includes the dreaded "Shock and Awe Strategic Selfie Campaign". They will no doubt hold the "Administration Drones Holding Cardboard Signs With Emotion Tugging Messages Written With Pastel Sharpies" in reserve for the coup de grace.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 09:45 AM (BZAd3)

109 Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 24, 2014 09:43 AM (8c12T)

Cool.

So uhh...how much evidence do we need to drone you?

Oh and who gets to define "terrorist organization?"

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 09:45 AM (HDwDg)

110 The iceberg is twice the size of Atlanta and broke off the Antarctic iceshelf. Unfortunately the eco-tourists were rescued long ago.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:46 AM (a26oX)

111 91 Your pic with the Grabber showed you carrying a Smith and Wesson? Didn't you name it "Vera"?




Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:40 AM (GQ8sn)

Vera??? Nah, I would have called it after my GF at the time if anything.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:46 AM (T2V/1)

112 The Wynn has a "European pool". Guess what that means?

You can shit in the pool?

Posted by: The streets of Paris at April 24, 2014 09:46 AM (Zdz/k)

113
Oh and who gets to define "terrorist organization?"

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I do, and I've located a big one outside of Las Vegas

Posted by: Hairy Reed at April 24, 2014 09:46 AM (APuJ7)

114 112 The Wynn has a "European pool". Guess what that means?

You can shit in the pool?

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*eats Baby Ruth*

Posted by: Carl Spakler at April 24, 2014 09:46 AM (APuJ7)

115
The Wynn has a "European pool". Guess what that means?
Posted by: EC




"fat German businessmen pretending they're acrobats, forming pyramids and frightening the children..."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 09:47 AM (kdS6q)

116 Al Gore, white liberal, calls for population control in Africa and shockingly no calls of 'racism' follow.

I'm sure it is just a funny coincidence.

Posted by: Jay in PA at April 24, 2014 09:47 AM (3LaGb)

117

hahaha @ "GM recall wipes out all profits"

the "profits" were all bullshit anyway

Posted by: Soothie § at April 24, 2014 09:47 AM (aqrfx)

118 >>Oh and who gets to define "terrorist organization?"

Aaaaand this is why DHS, Pentagon, etc. training materials and other documentation have been labeling Tea Party & Christian groups as domestic terrorists for *years*.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 09:48 AM (8zTpe)

119 Vera??? Nah, I would have called it after my GF at the time if anything.


Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:46 AM (T2V/1)


Was it your "very favourite gun"?
heh...

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:48 AM (GQ8sn)

120 Hmmm, I wonder how those three Russians left down in Antarctica to babysit the ship are holding up?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 24, 2014 09:48 AM (ZshNr)

121 China’s navy commissioned 17 new warships last year, the most of any nation. In a little more than a decade, it’s expected to have three aircraft carriers, giving it more clout than ever in a region of contested seas and festering territorial disputes.

Those numbers testify to huge increases in defense spending that have endowed China with the largest military budget behind the United States and fueled an increasingly large and sophisticated defense industry. While Beijing still lags far behind the U.S. in both funding and technology, its spending boom is attracting new scrutiny at a time of severe cuts in U.S. defense budgets that have some questioning Washington’s commitments to its Asian allies, including some who have lingering disputes with China.


I am sure Japan is reassured?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:48 AM (t3UFN)

122 So uhh...how much evidence do we need to drone you? Oh and who gets to define "terrorist organization?"
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 09:45 AM (HDwDg)

In order: none, and I do.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 24, 2014 09:48 AM (DrWcr)

123
I need to find some Jane Fonda urinal stickers to bring to my grandfather's old American Legion post for old time's sake.

Those were apparently standard issue at VA hospitals, American Legion halls, VFW posts, etc., for at least a decade after Vietnam.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (APuJ7)


Did you see the article about a month ago where she was whining about getting old? Apparently the bitch is upset that she's no longer beautiful or interesting to anyone.


I wish she were bemoaning her misspent life while residing in jail.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:49 AM (bb5+k)

124 119 Was it your "very favourite gun"?
heh...


Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:48 AM (GQ8sn)


This is my rifle, this is my gun.....

BION I heard that thing long before that movie.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:50 AM (T2V/1)

125 Edwards, a 20-year federal career employee with expertise in computer
engineering, resigned his office in December, three days before he was
scheduled to appear at a Senate hearing to answer questions. DHS granted
his request to be transferred into its office of science and
technology, and the hearing was canceled.


So, what if he did resign? How the he!! do they keep getting away with this $h!t? What's the use of oversight if you don't do any overseeing? There are way too many legal loopholes in our bureaucracy if this is the case. "We the people" have lost control of our government. It really is time to start over.

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 24, 2014 09:50 AM (Ph479)

126 U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday he is exploring ways to deepen U.S.-Mexican defense ties, including the possibility of training exercises with Mexican forces.


???
Why? Hey I got an idea, let's control our border?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:50 AM (t3UFN)

127 I am sure Japan is reassured?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:48 AM (t3UFN)


Japan needs to build a battleship and name it the "Yamato". Wouldn't hurt to install the Wave Motion Gun in it too!

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 09:50 AM (GQ8sn)

128 Always thought Jane Fonda should have been arrested, tried, and possibly shot.







Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:36 AM (bb5+k)



I would have sent her to Hanoi. Via a B52 dropped from the bomb bay at 30,000 feet sans parachute

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 09:51 AM (1Jaio)

129 @ 36 "I like your style"

That made me laugh. I am working in China. Do you know why?

Because no-one can get a freaking job in the US. Christ, I have 10 patents and a college degree, which qualifies me to bag up shit at Walmart. It's a science (Chemistry degree) and some bullshit political science degree.

US government numbers are like Chinese government numbers...All the bullshit.

I Hope to get back to the US soon so I can spin my pistols. They don't allow that here in Commie Land

Maybe I need to get into the arms trade or make acid. I'm good at weapons and chemical synthesis. What do you guys think?

What would you morons do in my situation?

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 24, 2014 09:51 AM (NB/bQ)

130 Nevergiveup, the last time China tried to launch so many ships in so short a time the Mongols saw a great majority of them sink due to a divine wind as they tried to invade Japan.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:51 AM (a26oX)

131 126 U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday he is exploring ways to deepen U.S.-Mexican defense ties, including the possibility of training exercises with Mexican forces. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:50 AM (t3UFN)

Great. Then they can be more effective killers for drug cartels.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 09:51 AM (DrWcr)

132
Drones are the friggin' One Ring to Rule Them All for this administration. Just too much power. And if it's too much power for this admin, it's too much power for any admin.

Ground them until an actual damned Declaration of War is passed. Then only use them in theatre.

Some of you people baffle me. You still want a heavily empowered President, and you act like these abuses will go away as soon as an (R) sits in the Oval Office.

It's not going to work that way.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2014 09:52 AM (/95J8)

133 U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday he is exploring ways to deepen U.S.-Mexican defense ties, including the possibility of training exercises with Mexican forces.

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We were highly trained Mexican military forces and look at us now!

Posted by: Los Zetas at April 24, 2014 09:52 AM (APuJ7)

134 Maybe I need to get into the arms trade or make acid. I'm good at weapons and chemical synthesis. What do you guys think? What would you morons do in my situation?
Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 24, 2014 09:51 AM (NB/bQ)

I know what I'd do...

Posted by: Walter White at April 24, 2014 09:52 AM (DrWcr)

135
What would you morons do in my situation?

Have you learned Mandarin? If I were you I'd get really fucking good at it. Understanding Chinese business and being able to guide Americans through there and Chinese through ours is going to be an asset for the next generation.

I did that with European languages and it worked for the 80s and 90s, but they all speak perfect English now so it's just a Stupid Human Trick. I think Mandarin will be bankable for a good long time.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 09:55 AM (JtwS4)

136
Maybe I need to get into the arms trade or make acid. I'm good at weapons and chemical synthesis. What do you guys think?

What would you morons do in my situation?

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 24, 2014 09:51 AM (NB/bQ)


Ever read the book " Lucifer's Hammer"? (By Larry Niven and Jerry Pournell)


Yeah, those skills might be needed at some point.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:55 AM (bb5+k)

137 So much for winning Afghanistan you prickless mother...

Afghan policeman opens fire inside hospital in Kabul run by CURE. Three Americans dead and a foreign woman wounded.

http://tinyurl.com/kg65t8e

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:55 AM (a26oX)

138 129 Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 24, 2014 09:51 AM (NB/bQ)

Move to moron estates in Texas and set up a gunpowder manufacturing biz in Indianola....

//Future 10077 plans maybe

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:55 AM (TE35l)

139 We had our daughter's wedding at the Wynn. They gave my wife and I a free meal at Botero (the place the argument happened) as a comp for renting 22 rooms for 3 days.

Actually ended up eating their twice, since my daughter and son in law wanted to go there when they got in town.

It was better when it was free.

Posted by: jwest at April 24, 2014 09:56 AM (u2a4R)

140 134
Maybe I need to get into the arms trade or make acid. I'm good at
weapons and chemical synthesis. What do you guys think? What would you
morons do in my situation?

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 24, 2014 09:51 AM (NB/bQ)



I know what I'd do...

Posted by: Walter White at April 24, 2014 09:52 AM

Why is it choice ... pursue both ... diversification. Plus one compliments the other.

Posted by: Long Island at April 24, 2014 09:56 AM (7Nabg)

141 Sooo...GM recall wipes out profits.

Good thing the gov't unloaded all those shares, right?

I mean, it's not like they might have, y'know, known something about this long in advance and held off the news until their exposure was reduced...

Heads. On. Pikes.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 09:57 AM (rt3TY)

142
You still want a heavily empowered President, and you act like these abuses will go away as soon as an (R) sits in the Oval Office.

It's not going to work that way.


This. It's satisfying to make pink mist out of bearded brown people who hate us, but a government or presidency with unrestrained power will use it against you.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 09:57 AM (JtwS4)

143 ....eating there twice...

why does this thing keep changing things.

Posted by: jwest at April 24, 2014 09:57 AM (u2a4R)

144 U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday he is exploring ways
to deepen U.S.-Mexican defense ties, including the possibility of
training exercises with Mexican forces.


So now it gives them a legitimate reason for a border incursion.

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 24, 2014 09:58 AM (Ph479)

145 Why is it choice ... pursue both ... diversification. Plus one compliments the other.

Or just weaponize LSD. I'm sure there'd be a market for that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 09:58 AM (rt3TY)

146 I need to find some Jane Fonda urinal stickers to bring to my grandfather's old American Legion post for old time's sake.

Those were apparently standard issue at VA hospitals, American Legion halls, VFW posts, etc., for at least a decade after Vietnam.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 24, 2014 09:39 AM (APuJ7)

http://tinyurl.com/lmdyj8e

Pack of 5 for 6.99

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 09:58 AM (fWAjv)

147 Some of you people baffle me. You still want a heavily empowered President, and you act like these abuses will go away as soon as an (R) sits in the Oval Office.

It's not going to work that way.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2014 09:52 AM (/95J


Not at all. Over at the website "Talkpolywell.org" I created and maintain a thread regarding how technology is going to give us "Terminators" but with one significant difference.


They won't be controlled by a master computer somewhere, they will be the tools of oppression for our very human masters. Technology is simply making the job of oppressing we dissidents, easier and easier, and it points to a very ominous future I think.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 09:58 AM (bb5+k)

148 De Blasio wants to ban new wood fireplaces

Well I am so glad he is concentrating on the really really important issues

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:58 AM (t3UFN)

149 A lifetime of service and sacrifice:

https://tinyurl.com/lsj6ecu


We have served him well indeed. And our sacrifice for him has been its own reward.

I bet you feel better knowing your good deeds have paid off so tangibly. You'll no doubt have your reward in heaven.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 10:00 AM (BZAd3)

150 I love reading Kevin Williamson's stuff (Paradise of the Real in this instance). He applies maximum snarkiness to dead-on accurate analysis ...fess up, which Moron is Mr. Williamson?

Posted by: dogfish at April 24, 2014 10:00 AM (nsOJa)

151 The Obama administration has reversed course and will send Egypt new Apache attack helicopters that were urgently requested by Cairo in March to counter the growing threat from al Qaeda terrorists in the Sinai Peninsula.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel told Egyptian Defense Minister Col. Gen. Sedki Sobhy on Tuesday that President Barack Obama approved lifting a ban on the attack helicopters but will not lift an arms embargo imposed last year after the military’s ouster of Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammad Morsi.

The Washington Free Beacon first reported March 12 that the administration had turned down Egypt’s urgent appeal for Washington to release the 10 Apaches because of the growing al Qaeda terrorist threat.

Release of the helicopters comes less than week after al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri urged jihadists to conduct attacks on Egyptian security forces.

Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said in a statement that Hagel had informed the Egyptian defense minister that the helicopters would be sent to help combat a growing terrorist threat in the Sinai.

These assholes in the White House have no idea what they are doing. What a bunch of fuck tards

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 10:01 AM (t3UFN)

152
[pic] Kim Jong-un the ladies’ man besieged by female soldiers in tears as he visits their military unit near the South Korean border

http://tinyurl.com/myw5o95



I slam the door

boom!

When I come into the bedroom

wham bam!

Cause I'm the king of the castle

na na na

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 10:01 AM (kdS6q)

153 148 De Blasio wants to ban new wood fireplaces

Well I am so glad he is concentrating on the really really important issues

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:58 AM (t3UFN)

Yeah, you know the big gulp, horse carriages.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 10:01 AM (HVff2)

154 Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 09:57 AM (rt3TY)

Well that and by doing this the government opened themselves up to lawsuits that have already been filed.

Putting me (the tax payer) on the hook for their stupid.

Can I file a lawsuit against them for that?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:02 AM (HDwDg)

155 ...fess up, which Moron is Mr. Williamson?

You may be on to something. I swear I've seen traces of the Style Guide's provisos in his writing before.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 10:03 AM (rt3TY)

156 Yeah, you know the big gulp, horse carriages.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 10:01 AM (HVff2)

I'd give a lot for DeBlasio to wake up one morning with a huge pile of horse shit in his bed, left by one of the carriage drivers.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:03 AM (DrWcr)

157 150 I love reading Kevin Williamson's stuff (Paradise of the Real in this instance). He applies maximum snarkiness to dead-on accurate analysis ...fess up, which Moron is Mr. Williamson?

Posted by: dogfish at April 24, 2014 10:00 AM (nsOJa)


I have to admit that Kevin Williamson is teh awesome. He writes the best shit coming from National Review since Buckley. (William F, not his idiot son.)


Everything he writes is just concentrated goodness as near as I can tell.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 10:03 AM (bb5+k)

158 De Blasio wants to ban new wood fireplaces

His swank crib must already have enough.

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:04 AM (ZKzrr)

159 148
De Blasio wants to ban new wood fireplaces



Well I am so glad he is concentrating on the really really important issues

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:58 AM

Are there that many new fireplaces being installed in NYC?

Posted by: Long Island at April 24, 2014 10:05 AM (7Nabg)

160 They are in all the urinals at the Sub Vet's House up in Groton CT. Best piss I ever had

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:42 AM (t3UFN)


=========

Hey NGU- Is the "Sportsman's Cafe" still down the block from there at the corner of Thames and School Sts? That was one of my haunts back in the shipyard days...

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 24, 2014 10:05 AM (OtQXp)

161 Is Jane Fonda going to live forever? Sheesh! That woman will not go away. She has loads of money but must constantly keep herself in the public eye. Just fucking retire already!


She's like Joan Rivers.
One more facelift & she has a goatee!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:05 AM (uVkIH)

162 What blows my mind are the conservatives in that Sikh article bashing him for not obeying the laws of America. However the law in question isn't a law but the government attempting to disarm every innocent citizen, analogous to what happens with gun control. If they don't like him carrying the dagger, then they shouldn't compel him to do jury duty in the first place. It's the government forcing the contradiction between "law and freedom of religion" by legally compelling a person to come to a location in a way that violates their religion.

Sikh dude wins, government loses on this one.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 24, 2014 10:06 AM (6hyR+)

163 Posted by: Long Island at April 24, 2014 10:05 AM (7Nabg)

Considering what a chimney costs, my guess is no.

But this is more about shaming the people who already have one than anything else.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:06 AM (HDwDg)

164 159 Posted by: Long Island at April 24, 2014 10:05 AM (7Nabg)

Yeah that's how freedom works...

They are trying to destroy the power grid, and simultaneously trying to ban every natural method of heat known to man....

it is not about solving anything other than the less well off than Croesus suffering too little.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:07 AM (TE35l)

165 Yeah, Episcopalians should consider adopting the Sikh dagger idea. It might help the church man up a little, which would be a welcome change of pace.

Posted by: MTF at April 24, 2014 10:07 AM (UsFoH)

166 Isn't there a fictional character that named their weapon 'Vera?'

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:07 AM (fWAjv)

167 Over at the website "Talkpolywell.org" I created and maintain a thread regarding how technology is going to give us "Terminators" but with one significant difference.

They won't be controlled by a master computer somewhere, they will be the tools of oppression for our very human masters. Technology is simply making the job of oppressing we dissidents, easier and easier, and it points to a very ominous future I think.


Stuxnet.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:08 AM (uVkIH)

168 165 Yeah, Episcopalians should consider adopting the Sikh dagger idea. It might help the church man up a little, which would be a welcome change of pace.
Posted by: MTF at April 24, 2014 10:07 AM (UsFoH)

Aren't Episcopalians just barely a step above Unitarian Universalists these days?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (DrWcr)

169 166 Isn't there a fictional character that named their weapon 'Vera?'
Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:07 AM (fWAjv)

Jayne Cobb!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (DrWcr)

170 Dammit. Adam Baldwin's gun.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (fWAjv)

171 106
Wife won't have anything on TV in morning except NBC's Today show with Matt Lauer and all the other bints.
==========
My wife used to do this.

A regular cry of "oh, that is such bullshit!" followed by a long rant of why has ended that.

Peace and quite in the AM as I drink the coffee now . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (VjL9S)

172 Video: Obama Bows To Japanese Robot…

What is it with the guy and bowing?


Weasel Zippers:

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (t3UFN)

173 We've never lost a chimney.

Posted by: Your Volunteer Fire Dept. at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (lq3Ak)

174 Jayne Cobb!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (DrWcr)

I was thinking 'Firefly' but just wasn't sure.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:10 AM (fWAjv)

175 I'd give a lot for DeBlasio to wake up one morning
with a huge pile of horse shit in his bed, left by one of the carriage
drivers.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:03 AM

DeBlasio anti horse carriage position is nothing more than a land grab. A wealthy donor to DeBlasio wants to develop the stables. Liam Neeson is taking a lot of heat from the animal right nuts because he is supporting the carriage drivers.

Posted by: Long Island at April 24, 2014 10:10 AM (7Nabg)

176 172 Video: Obama Bows To Japanese Robot… What is it with the guy and bowing? Weasel Zippers:
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (t3UFN)

He bends over so much it's become habit.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:10 AM (DrWcr)

177 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:10 AM (PYAXX)

178 171 Peace and quite in the AM as I drink the coffee now . . . .


Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (VjL9S)

Single? Or still married?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 10:10 AM (HVff2)

179 4 hours down.
6 to go.

Deployment days suck.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (PYAXX)

180 Hey NGU- Is the "Sportsman's Cafe" still down the block from there at the corner of Thames and School Sts? That was one of my haunts back in the shipyard days...
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 24, 2014 10:05 AM (OtQXp)


I really have not been there in 2 years. I got promoted and transfered to HQ in Portsmouth VA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (t3UFN)

181 Posted by: Long Island at April 24, 2014 10:10 AM (7Nabg)

Doesn't NYC have mounted police officers?

I say those go first

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (HDwDg)

182 *twitches and falls over*

Princess Caroline and Gaylord Focker in the same place at the same time.

I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of souls were being sucked into some maelstrom...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (a26oX)

183
Good news, everyone!:

The world's only 'married' lesbian threesome are expecting their first child.

Doll, Kitten and Brynn, from Massachusetts, were joined together in a marriage-style ceremony last August and are expecting a daughter in July.

Kitten, 27, is pregnant after undergoing IVF treatment using an anonymous sperm donor, and the trio eventually plan to have three children - one for each of them.

The plan at the moment is that Kitten will bear all the children - possibly using her wives' eggs and donated sperm - but they are open to other options, such as adoption.

The so-called 'throuple' worked with a specialist family lawyer who drew up the paperwork and drafted the ceremony so that all three of them were obligated and bound to each other . While Brynn and Kitten are legally married, Doll is handfasted to both so the threesome are as equally married to each other as legally possible.

http://tinyurl.com/kvhgvb4



"Zathras
warn, but no, no one listen to poor Zathras,"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (kdS6q)

184 Doesn't NYC have mounted police officers? I say those go first
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (HDwDg)

Make 'em ride Segways instead.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (DrWcr)

185 What blows my mind are the conservatives in that
Sikh article bashing him for not obeying the laws of America. However
the law in question isn't a law but the government attempting to disarm
every innocent citizen, analogous to what happens with gun control. If
they don't like him carrying the dagger, then they shouldn't compel him
to do jury duty in the first place. It's the government forcing the
contradiction between "law and freedom of religion" by legally
compelling a person to come to a location in a way that violates their
religion.



Sikh dude wins, government loses on this one.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 24, 2014 10:06 AM (6hyR+)

Sorry, but this is different.


If I'm called to jury duty, I cannot conceal carry my pistol with me even though I have a permit to do so. I have to leave it at home or in the car. The court isn't taking away my right to own or carry a weapon.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM (GQ8sn)

186 Aren't Episcopalians just barely a step above Unitarian Universalists these days?

If I understand correctly, there are some Episcopalians who think Jesus was a super nice guy, but not divine and he didn't rise from the dead.

'Historical Jesus' they call it.

The funny thing is, the GOP basically wants to adopt the Episcopalian model of watering everything down. The Episcopalians sure as hell aren't benefitting from that.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM (DRG6e)

187
he should wake up someday with a horse's head in his bed

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM (aqrfx)

188 Kitten, 27, is pregnant after undergoing IVF treatment using an anonymous sperm donor, and the trio eventually plan to have three children - one for each of them.


Blender babies.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM (uVkIH)

189 Kitten, 27, is pregnant after undergoing IVF treatment using an anonymous sperm donor, and the trio eventually plan to have three children - one for each of them.

And when these lesbos break up, they'll move heaven and earth to find the identity of the sperm donor so they can fleece him for child support.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM (DrWcr)

190 I have a hard time getting worked up about al Awlaki. First off, the guy was overseas and engaged in active warfare against the US. He was in the company of al Qaeda gunman when he was killed, while traveling in an armed convoy.

He was subject to the authority of the president to conduct war operations. Sure, he might have hoped to rely on the Fifth Amendment, but he could have had a much stronger ace were he to have stayed in the US and away from a war zone.

Posted by: MTF at April 24, 2014 10:13 AM (UsFoH)

191 Jayne Cobb!



Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (DrWcr)



I was thinking 'Firefly' but just wasn't sure.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:10 AM (fWAjv)


Maybe Vic is too old to catch the youngin reference.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:13 AM (GQ8sn)

192 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (kdS6q)

O_o

o_O

o_o

O_O

Nope, that doesn't make any sense *any* way I look at it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:13 AM (PYAXX)

193 Blender babies.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM (uVkIH)

Red, white (I denounce myself), and spins round and round?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:13 AM (DrWcr)

194 De Blasio wants to ban new wood fireplaces



Well I am so glad he is concentrating on the really really important issues

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:58 AM (t3UFN)



These big city Democrat mayors only go after the big issues. In Chicago last weekend there were 8 killed and about 40 shot and Rahm is launching a plastic bag ban. Yep, stopping stores from using plastic bags ought to make things much better

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 10:13 AM (1Jaio)

195 "Good news, everyone!:

The world's only 'married' lesbian threesome are expecting their first child.
"


"We won't show up unless...

...we'll be right there."

Posted by: Your Volunteer Fire Dept. at April 24, 2014 10:14 AM (lq3Ak)

196 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (DrWcr)

Google produced an article that said that Billy D has already say "This isn't the same, they protect us."

Really?

Cops on horses are as much about tourism as are horse drawn carriages.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:14 AM (HDwDg)

197 >>Kitten, 27, is pregnant after undergoing IVF treatment using an anonymous sperm donor, and the trio eventually plan to have three children - one for each of them.

Like pets or something, no? Heaven forbid one of the kids is a boy.

Bookworm covered this: The left turns the idea of same-sex couples having babies into fashion statements
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lk96lfx

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 10:14 AM (8zTpe)

198 It all adds up to oblivion, man. William Stranix, 1991.

Posted by: SGT Dan at April 24, 2014 10:14 AM (Fp5Wm)

199
...the GOP basically wants to adopt the Episcopalian model of watering everything down.

Good way to put it.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (aqrfx)

200 Video: Obama Bows To Japanese Robot…



What is it with the guy and bowing?





Weasel Zippers:

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 10:09 AM (t3UFN)



He's used to bending over when he meets guys

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (1Jaio)

201 Love Amy Otto's feminist article. She put things more nicely than I would have.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (r+7wo)

202 187 he should wake up someday with a horse's head in his bed
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM (aqrfx)

Not unless it's his horse.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (DrWcr)

203 That will be amusing in the delivery room if Kitten wants to have a natural childbirth without pain killers or epidural.

"Screw this! Aaahh!! You have the next kid! Uugghh!! It hurts! Going to kill both of you for this!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (a26oX)

204 The world's only 'married' lesbian threesome are expecting their first child."
=======
Kids are toys.

Posted by: --- at April 24, 2014 10:16 AM (OlP/9)

205 Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM (uVkIH)

Pffffttttttt.

That's nothing.
I think it was Buzzanca v. Buzzanca where the kid had 5 parents.

A sperm donor, an egg donor, a gestational mother and the two parents setting all this up.

5.

At that point why not just adopt?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:16 AM (HDwDg)

206 If I understand correctly, there are some Episcopalians who think Jesus was a super nice guy, but not divine and he didn't rise from the dead.

Oh, good. Wasn't a tenet of the gnostic heresy that Jesus didn't actually rise from the dead (or that if he did, it was only in some spiritual form)?

My Bible indicates Paul and John fisked that fairly thoroughly back in the 1 c.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:16 AM (PYAXX)

207 That will be amusing in the delivery room if Kitten wants to have a natural childbirth without pain killers or epidural.

"Screw this! Aaahh!! You have the next kid! Uugghh!! It hurts! Going to kill both of you for this!"


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (a26oX)


That's what c-sections are for.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:16 AM (GQ8sn)

208 A jury is not really a part of the "court." The whole song and dance of the courtroom is put on to influence them. I don't see any problem at all with prohibiting possession of arms to the gallery, witnesses and counsel while the jury enjoys the full rights of citizens. Could give some actors in the drama something to think about.

Then, each juror should present the weapon that best characterizes his heritage and destiny. Some will choose a belt-tucked snubby with a taped handle, others the Pa/Ky long rifle, Roman short sword, a switchblade, and so on. Lawyers may pitch their case accordingly. I don't believe Cicero ever pleaded to the disarmed.

Your honor, I beg of you, is it not the Truth that we Sikh?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 24, 2014 10:16 AM (xq1UY)

209 201 Love Amy Otto's feminist article. She put things more nicely than I would have.
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (r+7wo)

Same here. Shut the fuck up, quit vilifying and blaming men and "patriarchy" for all your problems would have been my opener.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:16 AM (DrWcr)

210 Horse head in the bed? I have a different critter in mind.....

Anyway have fun, morons its time for a fucking webinar. An hour and a half of my life I'll never have back for a fucking job duty I'll never do......Mgmt.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 10:17 AM (HVff2)

211
But, yeah, seriously, the "Mainstream Media" has sought fit to re-name Georgia's new law the Guns Everywhere law.


Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:17 AM (aqrfx)

212
That's what c-sections are for.

I have watched a C-section and a VBAC up close. They're both really gross.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:18 AM (JtwS4)

213 Maybe Vic is too old to catch the youngin reference.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:13 AM (GQ8sn)

I've never seen it but just looked it up and it's on Prime. Supposed to have a rainy ass Saturday so I think I know what I'll be doing.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:19 AM (fWAjv)

214 I have watched a C-section and a VBAC up close. They're both really gross.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:18 AM (JtwS4)


Meh....they gotta come out somehow.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:19 AM (GQ8sn)

215 But, yeah, seriously, the "Mainstream Media" has sought fit to re-name Georgia's new law the Guns Everywhere law.

And?

It might scare some NE or Left-Coast weenies, but in middle America the prevalent response seems to be "F*ck yeah!"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:19 AM (PYAXX)

216 I've never seen it but just looked it up and it's on
Prime. Supposed to have a rainy ass Saturday so I think I know what
I'll be doing.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:19 AM (fWAjv)


It's the "Our Mrs. Reynolds" episode. I think it's the third or fourth one.


Christina Hendricks is in it.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:20 AM (GQ8sn)

217 That said... I do actually have some concerns with guns in bars. Not enough that I would have opposed the bill in any way, but I'm certainly wary about mixing guns and alcohol.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:20 AM (PYAXX)

218 It's the "Our Mrs. Reynolds" episode. I think it's the third or fourth one. Christina Hendricks is in it.
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:20 AM (GQ8sn)

I don't think she's ever been hotter than the two Firefly episodes she appeared in. YMMV.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (DrWcr)

219 I don't want to disrespect Thai women or the men who rented them, but Hanoi Jane could have made a hell of a Comfort Woman for a few days, until she was used up.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (xq1UY)

220
Just need to check in here with my oft repeated mantra--one of my life goals is living long enough to piss on John Kerry's grave.

Along with Fonda's, if the logistics permit.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (SAMxH)

221 I really have not been there in 2 years. I got promoted and transfered to HQ in Portsmouth VA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 10:11 AM (t3UFN)

=====

No worries, I haven't been back there for 30 years myself- when you mentioned the Sub Vets I remembered they were a couple of doors down and wondered if the old joint was still in business.

It was an interesting place- mostly shipyard workers with a few contractor and Navy types thrown in.

The one thing I remember best about the place was when, in the spirit of "community service", the management installed a self-service breathalyzer machine at the end of the bar by the back door.

For the first week nobody could figure out what it was or how it worked.

The next week, after they figured out how to use it, the yardbirds started playing it for "High Score".

Good times, good times...

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (OtQXp)

222 >> I have watched a C-section...

Not a fun recovery, either, but it still feels like cheating because you skip the hours of pushing, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (8zTpe)

223
But, yeah, seriously, the "Mainstream Media" has sought fit to re-name Georgia's new law the Guns Everywhere law.

Yeah, I'm fer 'em... everywhere!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (HsTG8)

224 Kids as fashion accessories? A Dutch couple was way ahead of this threesome or others.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2007/12/lady-macbeth-was-humanitarian.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (a26oX)

225
That said... I do actually have some concerns with guns in bars. Not
enough that I would have opposed the bill in any way, but I'm certainly
wary about mixing guns and alcohol.



If you carry, you are not allowed to have any alcohol. That's the law.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (GQ8sn)

226 "Meh....they gotta come out somehow."
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:19 AM (GQ8sn)

It has a "beat", like Lil' Orphan Annie.

Posted by: Your Volunteer Fire Dept. at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (lq3Ak)

227 Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:07 AM (fWAjv)

Monster Hunter series guy, wasn't it?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 24, 2014 10:22 AM (GDulk)

228 217 That said... I do actually have some concerns with guns in bars. Not enough that I would have opposed the bill in any way, but I'm certainly wary about mixing guns and alcohol.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:20 AM (PYAXX)

I have no problem whatsoever with allowing concealed carry in bars, especially since practically every restaurant has one. Just because you're sitting at the bar doesn't mean you're getting shnockered.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:22 AM (DrWcr)

229
The next week, after they figured out how to use it, the yardbirds started playing it for "High Score".

Good times, good times...
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (OtQXp)


LOL!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 24, 2014 10:22 AM (HsTG8)

230 I don't think she's ever been hotter than the two Firefly episodes she appeared in. YMMV.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (DrWcr)


Yes. Naked and willing.

"There's a special place in hell for you..."

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:22 AM (GQ8sn)

231 If you carry, you are not allowed to have any alcohol. That's the law.

That goes a long way to alleviating my concerns, but not all the way.

Heck, maybe my fears will be just as unfounded as the "blood in the streets!!!" gun-grabbers'. I certainly hope so. That doesn't change the fact that I see the potential for problems.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:23 AM (PYAXX)

232 "There's a special place in hell for you..."
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:22 AM (GQ8sn)

Reserved for child molesters and people who talk in movie theaters.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:23 AM (DrWcr)

233 220 Posted by: irongrampa at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (SAMxH)

Tedster Kennedy, and Bill Ayers are on my list...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:24 AM (TE35l)

234 At that point why not just adopt?

Even if you can get past the social workers who would rather let the black kids fester in the system than place them with white parents; by the time you get everything arranged the kids no longer look like an Anne Geddes photo, and often are usually old enough to be fucked up by their breeders.

People prefer to start from scratch and fuck the kids up themselves.

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:25 AM (ZKzrr)

235 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:23 AM (PYAXX

Leave it up to the individual bar owners.

seems to me though people who are going to be irresponsible drinking while carrying will be irresponsible regardless of the law.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:25 AM (HDwDg)

236 That will be amusing in the delivery room if Kitten wants to have a natural childbirth without pain killers or epidural.

"Screw this! Aaahh!! You have the next kid! Uugghh!! It hurts! Going to kill both of you for this!"


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (a26oX)

That's what c-sections are for.


If she's planning on three, install a zipper....

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:25 AM (uVkIH)

237 People prefer to start from scratch and fuck the kids up themselves.
Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:25 AM (ZKzrr)

I see you've met my parents.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (DrWcr)

238 Heck, maybe my fears will be just as unfounded as
the "blood in the streets!!!" gun-grabbers'. I certainly hope so. That
doesn't change the fact that I see the potential for problems.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:23 AM (PYAXX)


I think several states already have passed expanded CC laws that address this. I know SC and NC allow CC in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol, that otherwise aren't posted with "no weapons" signs.

Haven't seen any drunks shooting people yet. Your lawful gunowner isn't the type to be abusing their rights in such a manner. If anyone is going to be getting pissed and start shooting, it's the criminal asshole.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (GQ8sn)

239 I have watched a C-section and a VBAC up close. They're both really gross.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:18 AM (JtwS4)



In my last job, I had to become way way way more acquainted with anatomy and medical procedures than I ever wished to be. My conclusion? The human body is an amazing, and amazingly disgusting, thing.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (mf5HN)

240 "Reserved for child molesters and people who talk in movie theaters."
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:23 AM (DrWcr)

...And anyone who uses the word foodie.

Take your corner.

Posted by: Your Volunteer Fire Dept. at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (lq3Ak)

241 Someone upthread mentioning e-mails from the RNC reminded me that I have that crap going to my spam folder,without me seeing them.

So I took a look in the folder.

Yup...chock full of that shit from Reince, and the rest of the kool kids.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (X2NEw)

242 I don't really get why a smaller network of doctors would make a health plan cheaper. You'd think the bigger the network, the cheaper it would be.

How does 1 plan with 10 doctors, cost less than another plan 100 doctors?

Health insurance plans set up a rate schedule. And then doctors can decide if they want to participate in that rate schedule. I don't see how the insurance company saves money if 10 doctors participate vs 100 vs 1000 doctors.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (0LHZx)

243 Heck, maybe my fears will be just as unfounded as the "blood in the streets!!!" gun-grabbers'. I certainly hope so. That doesn't change the fact that I see the potential for problems.


We already have the 51% rule.
But 49% is totes ok?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (uVkIH)

244 In my last job, I had to become way way way more acquainted with anatomy and medical procedures than I ever wished to be. My conclusion? The human body is an amazing, and amazingly disgusting, thing.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (mf5HN)

Ever seen pictures of the aftermath of necrotizing fasciitis? I don't recommend it. That shit stays with you.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:27 AM (DrWcr)

245 200 ---"He's used to bending over when he meets guys"
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2014 10:15 AM (1Jaio)
--------------
Y'no, you may be onto something there!
I always figured the only reason he didn't bow to Queen Elizabeth is that she's English. Maybe her being a woman also signifies.

BTW, I do think it odd that Barry's closest confidants are chicks like Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice. Outside of the stroked-out Wilson, who (knowingly or unknowingly) relied on his wife for all things, I can't think of a POTUS with chicks behind the curtain, so to speak.

What's up with that?



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 24, 2014 10:27 AM (dfYL9)

246 Not a fun recovery, either, but it still feels like cheating because you skip the hours of pushing, etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 10:21 AM (8zTpe)

_______

Yes. But as my wife never forgets to remind me, you have weeks of recovery that "normal" births do not.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:27 AM (0LHZx)

247 It's the "Our Mrs. Reynolds" episode. I think it's the third or fourth one.


Christina Hendricks is in it.
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:20 AM (GQ8sn)

I've never seen ANY 'Firefly.'

Hopefully my moron membership is still intact after admitting that.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (fWAjv)

248 Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:25 AM (ZKzrr)

Even European adoption would be easier than what the Buzzanca's went through IMHO. (And I'm referring to the part before the actual court case, which was a mess on top of that mess that was only tangentially related actually. The husband wanted to bolt and relinquish any parental rights.)

In fact IIRC they actually had to "adopt" the child (well in theory, before the case, the case sorta fucked up everything.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (HDwDg)

249
Then what the hell is transvaginal mesh??

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (aqrfx)

250 I've never seen ANY 'Firefly.'



Hopefully my moron membership is still intact after admitting that.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (fWAjv)


It's ok. The dialogue and one-liners make it fun.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (GQ8sn)

251 I don't really get why a smaller network of doctors would make a health plan cheaper. You'd think the bigger the network, the cheaper it would be.

How does 1 plan with 10 doctors, cost less than another plan 100 doctors?

Health insurance plans set up a rate schedule. And then doctors can decide if they want to participate in that rate schedule. I don't see how the insurance company saves money if 10 doctors participate vs 100 vs 1000 doctors.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (0LHZx)


The reason there are so few DOCs is because the reimbursement is so bad. Most people. DRs or not, do not like to work and lose money. And the less DRs the more influence the Networks have over the DRs as to what they are allowed to do. It's a scam and a means of rationing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (t3UFN)

252 I've never seen ANY 'Firefly.' Hopefully my moron membership is still intact after admitting that.
Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (fWAjv)

That reduces you to probationary status, but that's easily cured.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (DrWcr)

253 249 Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (aqrfx)

Uncle John Reno and HILLARY! net-fishing?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (TE35l)

254 "The human body is an amazing, and amazingly disgusting, thing."
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (mf5HN)

I said the same thing after I looked at my own hairy "coin purse".

It was at that point, when I understood mortality.

Posted by: Your Volunteer Fire Dept. at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (lq3Ak)

255 Y'no, you may be onto something there!
I always figured the only reason he didn't bow to Queen Elizabeth is that she's English. Maybe her being a woman also signifies.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 24, 2014 10:27 AM (dfYL9)

A smart party would put together clips of him bowing to all the men and refusing to bow to women.

But, war on womynz and all that.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (fWAjv)

256 "Hopefully my moron membership is still intact after admitting that."


Jury is in the fence on that one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (X2NEw)

257 >>Yes. But as my wife never forgets to remind me, you have weeks of recovery that "normal" births do not.

Yeah, but my newborn was recovering from heart surgery at the same time, so I still felt like I got the better deal.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 10:30 AM (8zTpe)

258 in=on

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 10:30 AM (X2NEw)

259 I think the Lincoln Quote is: One does not wage war by blowing rose-water through elder-canes.
That does not mean that the Executive has the right to play mob boss and kill to prove he is effective.
I am tired of the most powerful man in the world pretending to be Stalin pretending to be the Vozhd, and only managing to mime out "General Garcia" from the In Laws.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2014 10:30 AM (z7ZM2)

260 249 Then what the hell is transvaginal mesh??
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (aqrfx)

Material that keeps the pelvic organs from falling out.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:31 AM (DrWcr)

261 "Then what the hell is transvaginal mesh??"
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (aqrfx)

A Downtown Silkscreen?

Posted by: Your Volunteer Fire Dept. at April 24, 2014 10:31 AM (lq3Ak)

262 Was this on ace?
Illinois ‘Misplaces’ $1.7 Billion in Income Tax Paymentsdailycurrant.com

Posted by: Anon at April 24, 2014 10:31 AM (PQ3tU)

263 RWC, just watch the movie Serenity as a starter for Firefly.

That link I provided on the Dutch couple. They had adopted a South Korean girl at 4 months. Then seven years later after having two natural kids, the 'mother' was claiming the girl no longer fit in. They were leaving her in Hong Kong speaking only English and Cantonese.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:32 AM (a26oX)

264 262 Posted by: Anon at April 24, 2014 10:31 AM (PQ3tU)

BWAHAHAHA

I am as concerned over Illinois' being in shock at corruption and incompetence as I am about winning both powerball drawings next week...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:32 AM (TE35l)

265 "And when these lesbos break up, they'll move heaven
and earth to find the identity of the sperm donor so they can fleece him
for child support.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:12 AM"


Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Welcome to the always-fresh hell that is my Massachusetts....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 10:32 AM (knoK7)

266 That link I provided on the Dutch couple. They had adopted a South Korean girl at 4 months. Then seven years later after having two natural kids, the 'mother' was claiming the girl no longer fit in. They were leaving her in Hong Kong speaking only English and Cantonese.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:32 AM (a26oX)

These people should be publicly flogged.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:33 AM (DrWcr)

267
Material that keeps the pelvic organs from falling out.

dear lord it's worse than I imagined

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:33 AM (aqrfx)

268 265 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 10:32 AM (knoK7)

Masholia, Massholia WE LOVE YOU!

//Bwoston Stwong Singers

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:33 AM (TE35l)

269 I don't really get why a smaller network of doctors would make a health plan cheaper. You'd think the bigger the network, the cheaper it would be.

There are lots of factors. One is, as you mention, the payer-set reimbursement rates. Few doctors choose to participate in the lower-reimbursement rate networks. They're not quite Medicaid-level-bad rates, but those smaller networks tend to have *much* lower reimbursement rates.

Another is the "Reasonable and Customary" charge. You hear that term a lot, but each provider network (potentially) calculates it differently. So smaller networks have more opportunity to derive a lower "R&C," which further lowers reimbursement rates.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:34 AM (PYAXX)

270 267 Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:33 AM (aqrfx)

eh...no more disgusing than the male p[elvic mesh severe hernia victims are offered...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:34 AM (TE35l)

271 Oh, good. Wasn't a tenet of the gnostic heresy that
Jesus didn't actually rise from the dead (or that if he did, it was
only in some spiritual form)?



My Bible indicates Paul and John fisked that fairly thoroughly back in the 1 c.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:16 AM (PYAXX)

Honestly, I do take issue with the assumption behind your thinking, that God would violate the physical laws of the universe He created, and certainly the Bible illustrates many such instances. However, it doesn't make sense for God to do that, it would be violating the integrity of his creation. He created the universe according to rules and it makes sense that He will operate according to those rules. To think otherwise suggests that God has no discipline or that created the universe in such a way that He has no choice *but* to violate it.
I strongly doubt that, but YMMV.

Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 10:34 AM (p7BzH)

272 RWC, just watch the movie Serenity as a starter for Firefly.

No, no, no! Nein! Niet!

Firefly first. Serenity after.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:35 AM (PYAXX)

273 http://youtu.be/6N7zaQu2bXs

Serial Killers - Judith Ann Neelley

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:35 AM (TE35l)

274 Then what the hell is transvaginal mesh??

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (aqrfx)

-----

Sounds like MWRs trampoline.....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (nELVU)

275 Good morning all! Today sucks already and it's not even 11am yet. I should have stayed in bed.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (4df7R)

276 272 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:35 AM (PYAXX)

Ja!

or you get the same effect of backmasking country songs....

River gets less sane people rise from the dead and a Dr gets off a boat.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (TE35l)

277
Yeah, Book dies in Serenity.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (aqrfx)

278 But what does this President say about blowing up a kid, he was callous and dismissive. And the State Media Bureau gave him a pass.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:23 AM (a26oX

Something about He should have had a better father.
I guess some believe, sins of the father and all that.

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (nqBYe)

279 Sounds like MWRs trampoline.....


Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (nELVU)


Hahaha!!! MWR comments immediately after this post!

Nice knowing you fixerupper!!!

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)

280 Masholia, Massholia WE LOVE YOU!
//Bwoston Stwong Singers


Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:33 AM


I see you know the Anthem of the Commonwealth, then?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (knoK7)

281 Ever seen pictures of the aftermath of necrotizing fasciitis? I don't recommend it. That shit stays with you.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:27 AM (DrWcr)



Yeah, I haven't seen that but I've seen necrotic wounds and those shit does stay with you. Old firm handled an utterly horrific case of neglect in care by a medical institution where the patient had bed sores that went all the way down to the bone. I will never forget that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (mf5HN)

282 279 Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (GQ8sn)

It was destiny...or maybe density

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (TE35l)

283 Yeah, Book dies in Serenity.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (aqrfx)


Stop spoiling it for RWC.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

284



Im a dead man EC......

Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (nELVU)

285 255
A smart party would put together clips of him bowing to all the men and refusing to bow to women.

But, war on womynz and all that.
Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (fWAjv)
----------------
Heh.
Great idea!

Oh wait, you said "smart" party.
Where do we find one of those?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 24, 2014 10:38 AM (dfYL9)

286
250 I've never seen ANY 'Firefly.' Hopefully my moron membership is still intact after admitting that. Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (fWAjv)It's ok. The dialogue and one-liners make it fun.
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (GQ8sn)


I'm a big fan of the scene where they quote the bible.

Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 10:38 AM (LI48c)

287 Im a dead man EC......


Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (nELVU)


I've always wanted to see someone's soul get stolen in real time.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:38 AM (GQ8sn)

288
remember TREE MAN?

the Asian man whose skin was turning into bark?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at April 24, 2014 10:38 AM (aqrfx)

289 217
That said... I do actually have some concerns with guns in bars. Not
enough that I would have opposed the bill in any way, but I'm certainly
wary about mixing guns and alcohol.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:20 AM (PYAXX)


If I recall correctly they are only allowed to bring them in the bar if they are not drinking.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 10:38 AM (T2V/1)

290 No, no, no! Nein! Niet!

Firefly first. Serenity after.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:35 AM (PYAXX)

That's what I just read - that Serenity ties up loose ends from Firefly.

Perhaps AP stumbled upon the pic I left everyone last night and it's payback time

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (fWAjv)

291 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:26 AM (0LHZx)


Oh let me count the ways.

1) bottom dollar bidding. That is to say by excluding you force the providers to compete. (Worth nothing, that actually I don't think every provider gets the same rate they negotiate some with the company, but I'm unclear about that.)

2) Screen out higher cost providers. Some providers cost more because they do more. They either use more expensive treatments, more treatment in general, are better at upcoding, etc. This is why BJC got cut from BCBS here, they're more expensive for this reason more than anything.

3) Administrative burden: it's theoretically lower

4) Cost shifting. Smaller networks means a higher chance to shift the insured to an out of network provider.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (HDwDg)

292 280 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (knoK7)

It's a pity there's no room for comedy aimed left....

I am wondering how Fallout 4 will feel being set allegedly in Boston

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (TE35l)

293 Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 10:34 AM (p7BzH)

Errr... so the whole Bible is a lie? The whole thing? All of it? Because if any single part of the Bible is an outright lie, the whole thing must be.

And how would it be "violating the integrity of His creation?" It's HIS creation! I think He would know better than you what would "violate" its "integrity."

Further, a God limited by the rules of His own Creation is not God at all (God being, by definition "Infinite" which means, more-or-less literally, "without limit").

But I don't need to argue this. Either you believe what the Bible says, or you don't. If you don't, I don't know how you would claim to be a Christian (which I don't know if you do or not- so that's a more general statement).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (PYAXX)

294
"Hopefully my moron membership is still intact after admitting that."


Jury is in the fence on that one.


Is RWC an 'ette? I forget. If so, there's a proven way to sway the jury.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (JtwS4)

295 Yeah, I haven't seen that but I've seen necrotic wounds and those shit does stay with you. Old firm handled an utterly horrific case of neglect in care by a medical institution where the patient had bed sores that went all the way down to the bone. I will never forget that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (mf5HN)

Ugh. Decubiti are horrible things.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:40 AM (DrWcr)

296 Even European adoption would be easier than what the Buzzanca's went through IMHO.

People don't care about the legal hoops; they care about TINY BABY ALL MINE.

There's a shortage of American babies adoptable before birth because the fymynysts have convinced women that taking a few months out of their life to gestate is a horrible imposition, and that their babies are better off dead than with "strangers."

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:40 AM (ZKzrr)

297 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (HDwDg)

My problem with the standard libertarian argument of "Let them do whatever they want" is that at some point the courts have to sort out the whole sordid mess when it goes south.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 24, 2014 10:40 AM (C/o9W)

298 Hopefully my moron membership is still intact after admitting that.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (fWAjv


just don't let Honorary Moron Adam Baldwin here you say that

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:41 AM (HDwDg)

299
remember the late 80's video sensation FACES OF DEATH?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at April 24, 2014 10:41 AM (aqrfx)

300 Wow! This is a link dump for the ages! Every one of 'em is a must-read. Nice work, Ben.

Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2014 10:41 AM (JBggj)

301 297 Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 24, 2014 10:40 AM (C/o9W)

eh we're way past that...


courts will do whatever they want regardless....

Plaintiff's exhibit one Prop-8

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (TE35l)

302 There's a shortage of American babies adoptable before birth because the
fymynysts have convinced women that taking a few months out of their
life to gestate is a horrible imposition, and that their babies are
better off dead than with "strangers."



I've always wondered why this was the case. There are plenty of babies and children right here in the US that need a good home. You don't have to go out of your way to some third world shithole to get a kid.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (GQ8sn)

303 aaaaaand, Bundy steps on his dick and gives the MSM the racist soundbites they were waiting for...

link to Daily Mail in nic

(of course, I'm skeptical until I hear the audio... context ya know)

Posted by: McCool at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (nCSwS)

304 "Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM"

Yeesh. Yeah...there are parts of PI work that aren't for the weak of stomach.

Kinda on topic, that reminds me of a case I saw while doing a summer program at Walter Reed many, many moons ago. Little newborn, about a day old, was going in for an MRI. Curious as to what was wrong with the little mite, I looked at her chart. Diagnosis was, I kid you not, 'anteriorly displaced anus.' After processing this mental image, I looked at the doc and said "Now I can truly say I've met someone who was literally ass backwards." I'm glad he wasn't drinking hot coffee at the time....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (knoK7)

305 I prefer to forget last night's ONT due to all the poo being flung about.

Necrosis, that is what socialists and feudalists do to the middle class.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (L8umz)

306
Then what the hell is transvaginal mesh??


Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (aqrfx)

-----

Sounds like MWRs trampoline.....


Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2014 10:36 AM (nELVU)


*smiles sweetly*
I think it's adorable that you think I'll grant you the sweet release of death.





Also, that WSJ Taranto piece about Shaheen. MMMMMM-MM, that has made my day at least a little bit better. That bitch needs to get punched down HARD.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (4df7R)

307 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (PYAXX

Stop.
Or we'll get a stoned CAC in here asking of God can microwave a burrito so hot He can't touch it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (HDwDg)

308 299 Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at April 24, 2014 10:41 AM (aqrfx)

Starring Brian Dennehey....

it was also Hairy Reed's break-out role as "the asshole mortician"

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (TE35l)

309 Stop spoiling it for RWC.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

It's fine. I think the 'SPOILER ALERT' is way past due. How long ago was it on?


What was that Clooney sci-fi crapfest. It wasn't Serenity but had a similar title. Whenever I heard Serenity I would think people were mentioning that one.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (fWAjv)

310 Hopefully my moron membership is still intact after admitting that.



Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:28 AM (fWAjv



just don't let Honorary Moron Adam Baldwin here you say that

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:41 AM (HDwDg)


Oh that's right! Baldwin is a Moron!

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:43 AM (GQ8sn)

311
(of course, I'm skeptical until I hear the audio... context ya know)

Hot Air has extensive quotes. Ain't no context can make up for it.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:43 AM (JtwS4)

312 I prefer to forget last night's ONT due to all the poo being flung about.


Precis please.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:43 AM (GQ8sn)

313 There's a shortage of American babies adoptable before birth because the fymynysts have convinced women that taking a few months out of their life to gestate is a horrible imposition, and that their babies are better off dead than with "strangers."

The foster and child protection system in this country is completely fucked up. Children are left in the "care" of abusive addicts for years, and moved from foster home to foster home, while plenty of hopeful parents are turned away. Why? Often because the adoptive parents are white, and the children... aren't.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 24, 2014 10:43 AM (C/o9W)

314 I aim to misbehave.
//Mal

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (uVkIH)

315 Stop. Or we'll get a stoned CAC in here asking of God can microwave a burrito Hot Pocketso hot He can't touch it.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (HDwDg)

Fixed per AOSHQ Stylebook guidelines.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (DrWcr)

316
It's fine. I think the 'SPOILER ALERT' is way past due. How long ago was it on?





What was that Clooney sci-fi crapfest. It wasn't Serenity but had a
similar title. Whenever I heard Serenity I would think people were
mentioning that one.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (fWAjv)


2002-2003.

Are you thinking of Gravity?

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (GQ8sn)

317 If it hasn't been noted vis-a-vis Firefly?

Jayne Cobb was played by Adam Baldwin. No relation to those Baldwins. And one of us, philosophically (and well worth a Twitter follow!)

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (rt3TY)

318 just don't let Honorary Moron Adam Baldwin here you say that

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:41 AM (HDwDg)

I know. Bad enough I asked who named their gun 'Vera.'

sigh

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (fWAjv)

319 311 Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:43 AM (JtwS4)

Like was said I'll wait to hear the clip....

Bundy never called me a bitter clinger

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (TE35l)

320 EC go read it yourself. I ain't. Fini, finito, no mas

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:45 AM (L8umz)

321 Oh let me count the ways.

1) bottom dollar bidding. That is to say by excluding you force the providers to compete. (Worth nothing, that actually I don't think every provider gets the same rate they negotiate some with the company, but I'm unclear about that.)

2) Screen out higher cost providers. Some providers cost more because they do more. They either use more expensive treatments, more treatment in general, are better at upcoding, etc. This is why BJC got cut from BCBS here, they're more expensive for this reason more than anything.

3) Administrative burden: it's theoretically lower

4) Cost shifting. Smaller networks means a higher chance to shift the insured to an out of network provider.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (HDwDg)

__________

Aside from 3 you don't answer why 10 doctors costs more than 100. 1, 2 and 4 wouldn't cost more for having more providers. Like I said, the plan has a schedule of payments. Procedure X: $500. If a doctor wants to sign up for $500 per X, he signs up. If he wants $700, he doesn't sign up.

And number 3 is a very small cost. It's a variable cost anyway, fixed costs for admin work are very small as a % of revenue.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:45 AM (0LHZx)

322 Are you thinking of Gravity?

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (GQ8sn)

No. Much older.

BRB. Checking IMDB.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:45 AM (fWAjv)

323 "Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 24, 2014 10:43 AM"

Ah, yes. Exhibit A, the Mass DCF and the little 5-year old they just found buried off the highway after months of being missing while the state ignored the case until the media more or less forced them to pay attention.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 10:46 AM (knoK7)

324 312 I prefer to forget last night's ONT due to all the poo being flung about.Precis please.
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:43 AM (GQ8sn)

I don't know about poo being flung, but the discussion got pretty heavy and dark, with suicide being the kickoff.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:46 AM (DrWcr)

325 Are you thinking of Gravity?

Could also have been the remake of Solaris.

It says something when you remake a Soviet flick and the original is better.

(The book by Stanislaw Lem was, naturally, better still.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 10:46 AM (rt3TY)

326 The reason there are so few DOCs is because the reimbursement is so bad. Most people. DRs or not, do not like to work and lose money. And the less DRs the more influence the Networks have over the DRs as to what they are allowed to do. It's a scam and a means of rationing
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 10:29 AM (t3UFN)

___________

But that's not what the story says. The story says the insurance plans kept their networks small to save money. It said nothing of insurance plans lowering reimbursements.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:46 AM (0LHZx)

327 'Solaris.'

I've never seen it and had no desire to.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (fWAjv)

328 Probably thinking of that other Clooney clunker - Solaris.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (L8umz)

329 RWC

Solaris...the movie?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (TE35l)

330 Anyone else notice that Michelle Obama is a mean witch who would like nothing better than to torture our children with stinkburgers?

Posted by: Fritz at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (UzPAd)

331
Hey, you guys ruined Games of Thrones for me a couple of weeks ago when you said what happened to Joffrey.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (aqrfx)

332 What was that Clooney sci-fi crapfest. It wasn't Serenity but had a similar title. Whenever I heard Serenity I would think people were mentioning that one. Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (fWAjv)2002-2003.Are you thinking of Gravity?
Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (GQ8sn)

Solaris, probably.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (DrWcr)

333 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (L8umz)

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (fWAjv)


Hive Mind for the win

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:48 AM (TE35l)

334
What was that Clooney sci-fi crapfest. It wasn't Serenity but had a

similar title. Whenever I heard Serenity I would think people were

mentioning that one.



Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:42 AM (fWAjv)




Solaris?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:48 AM (4df7R)

335 327 'Solaris.' I've never seen it and had no desire to.
Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:47 AM (fWAjv)

Tedious as hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:48 AM (DrWcr)

336 I aim to misbehave.

//Mal

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 10:44 AM (uVkIH)


You don't know me son, so I'll just explain this to you once. If I ever
kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.



Also, this quote got some college prof in deep trouble because some asshole administrator who never watched tv or knew pop culture mistook for a threat. Just like the Game of Thrones quote a week ago.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:48 AM (GQ8sn)

337 Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 24, 2014 10:46 AM (rt3TY)

That's it. And your comment makes me think I didn't miss anything with not seeing it.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:48 AM (fWAjv)

338 Anyone mention that Clooney was in Solaris yet?

Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 10:48 AM (LI48c)

339
Bundy never called me a bitter clinger

No, but he felt compelled to wonder whether negroes wouldn't be better off being slaves because then they could pick cotton instead of sitting on their porches getting abortions and government handouts.

That warn't no dog whistle. Bundy is a racist. I separate the cause from the man. Huge government overreach, overly militarized bureaucracy? Yes. Siding with a flat out racist? No. It's bad in se and it's bad for the brand.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (JtwS4)

340 Hey, you guys ruined Games of Thrones for me a couple of weeks ago when you said what happened to Joffrey.

In Titanic, the ship sinks.
Vader is Luke's father.
Verbal is Keyzer Sose.
Rosebud is a sled.

Anything I'm missing?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (rt3TY)

341
Solaris?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (aqrfx)

342 324 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:46 AM (DrWcr)

Yeah...some nights it is like that...

There's a lot of pain WRT the issue b/c of a fallen friend here.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (TE35l)

343 Exhibit A, the Mass DCF and the little 5-year old
they just found buried off the highway after months of being missing
while the state ignored the case until the media more or less forced
them to pay attention.


Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 10:46 AM (knoK7)/i]

So they finally found that poor little boy? I knew it was unlikely he'd be found alive after so long, but you always hold out hope. Precious little thing. RIP.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (4df7R)

344 And the original Soviet version has about two minutes of the main character merely driving with no dialog. And yet Clooney made the movie worse the remake.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (L8umz)

345 And how would it be "violating the integrity of His
creation?" It's HIS creation! I think He would know better than you
what would "violate" its "integrity."



Further, a God limited by the rules of His own Creation is not God
at all (God being, by definition "Infinite" which means, more-or-less
literally, "without limit").



But I don't need to argue this. Either you believe what the Bible
says, or you don't. If you don't, I don't know how you would claim to
be a Christian (which I don't know if you do or not- so that's a more
general statement).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (PYAXX)

So the Bible cannot be symbolic in any way then? You believe it literally?
And no, God isn't made any less of a God by adhering to the rules of His own creation. I argue it would take the discipline of God to do so. You are basically arguing that God created the universe in such a way as to not allow for Him to act without breaking its rules. I find that utterly illogical and makes no sense to think that of a God who is the source of knowledge and intellect.

Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (p7BzH)

346
"Senate Forecast: More Potential Problems For Dems"



CAC, come back. All is forgiven.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (kdS6q)

347 There are plenty of babies and children right here in the US that need a
good home. You don't have to go out of your way to some third world
shithole to get a kid.


The part I think you're missing is that the U.S. mother legally owns the child, no matter how criminally negligent she is. She might let the system feed and care for it awhile while she's in prison or whatever, but very few of them will give up their legal right to the child.

Less of a problem in China, where the second girl baby is going to get your family fined.

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:50 AM (ZKzrr)

348 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:45 AM (0LHZx)

#2 is directly related.

BCBS said "No BJC." They talked around it but everyone who knew a bit about the market knew that BJC has one of the highest costs around here just based on treatment methodology (i.e. newest, most expensive treatments). So BCBS excluded them. Didn't let them join up.

Thereby saying money.

#1 is also related, I've seen it happen. Another hospital around here rejected someone's rates (Aetna maybe?) After the patient outcry they eventually came to an agreement. I don't think it was the insurer that folded. (Cost savings there too.)

#4 is admittedly a bit more of a stretch, but with higher OOP costs, effectively forcing patients into out of network providers (by giving them the choice of long lines or paying more) will probably rake in some marginal savings.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:50 AM (HDwDg)

349 339 Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (JtwS4)

Yup definitely...

why is Bundy a worse villain than Jerry Wright or Eric "My People" Holder...?

If the left wants to play tribal games I am not gonna be bothered by tribal games anymore.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:50 AM (TE35l)

350 In Titanic, the ship sinks.

Vader is Luke's father.

Verbal is Keyzer Sose.

Rosebud is a sled.



Anything I'm missing?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (rt3TY)



The cake is a lie.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:50 AM (4df7R)

351 Ugh. Decubiti are horrible things.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:40 AM (DrWcr)



Yup. The hospital admin did the whole solemn intoning mistakes were made thing during her deposition. I was sitting there with a laptop calling up the pics of the horrors to which the patient was subjected and had the nigh to uncontrollable urge to smash her face with the laptop.

The only reason I didn't is because it was the really good laptop.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:51 AM (mf5HN)

352 Hive Mind for the win

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:48 AM (TE35l)

Heh. Yep.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:51 AM (fWAjv)

353 Pretty sure Tokyo knows it is on its own after seeing what SCOAMF did in re Ukraine. They 'had a protection agreement' too.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 24, 2014 10:51 AM (9Bdcz)

354 The part I think you're missing is that the U.S. mother legally owns the
child, no matter how criminally negligent she is. She might let the
system feed and care for it awhile while she's in prison or whatever,
but very few of them will give up their legal right to the child.



Ok, but what about true orphan children with no next of kin able to or willing to take them?

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:51 AM (GQ8sn)

355
Crying Game is a boy.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:51 AM (aqrfx)

356 >>Frumious: Hot Air has extensive quotes. Ain't no context can make up for it.


Yeesh.... really showed his ass.

Posted by: McCool at April 24, 2014 10:51 AM (nCSwS)

357 The Passion of the Christ? Jesus dies.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (C/o9W)

358 In Titanic, the ship sinks.


Vader is Luke's father.


Verbal is Keyzer Sose.


Rosebud is a sled.





Anything I'm missing?



Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (rt3TY)


The cake is a lie.


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:50 AM (4df7R)


They were already dead.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (GQ8sn)

359 Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:48 AM (GQ8sn)

It was another quote about how Mal wouldn't kill a man in his sleep, he'd do it facing him.

Still overreacting. But just wanted to clarify.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (HDwDg)

360 In Titanic, the ship sinks. Vader is Luke's father. Verbal is Keyzer Sose. Rosebud is a sled. Anything I'm missing?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM (rt3TY)

Bruce Willis was dead all along.
The Crying Game chick is a dude.
The Village is actually in a modern-day nature preserve.
Tyler Durden is a figment of The Narrator's imagination.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (DrWcr)

361 Adam Baldwin. No relation to those Baldwins. And one of us, philosophically

I can't remember if he's actually commented here, but he does read Ace. So one of us, really.

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)

362 The cake is a lie.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:50 AM (4df7R)


It is Not.

Posted by: GlaDoS at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (LI48c)

363 While Brynn and Kitten are legally married, Doll is handfasted to both so the threesome are as equally married to each other as legally possible.

But if a private contract is OK for 2 of the 3 pairs, why not the third?

These idiots don't seem to realize that nobody of any consequence is talking about "banning" gay marriage.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (T0NGe)

364 They were already dead.



Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (GQ8sn)



Speaking of which - so was Bruce Willis.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (4df7R)

365 It was another quote about how Mal wouldn't kill a man in his sleep, he'd do it facing him.



Still overreacting. But just wanted to clarify.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (HDwDg)


Uhh yeah....that was the quote I quoted right?

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)

366 And how would it be "violating the integrity of His creation?" It's HIS creation! I think He would know better than you what would "violate" its "integrity."

Further, a God limited by the rules of His own Creation is not God at all (God being, by definition "Infinite" which means, more-or-less literally, "without limit").

{...}

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (PYAXX)


=========

Precisely.

It's like that old chestnut about "Can God create a rock so heavy that he can't move it?"

The weight of the rock is not the issue. The issue is the Will of God. If it is the will of God that the rock not move then it can weigh less than a microgram and it will not budge for anything. If it is the Will of God that the rock move it can be the size of a mountain and no force in the Universe will keep it from moving.

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (OtQXp)

367 356 Posted by: McCool at April 24, 2014 10:51 AM (nCSwS)

Issue was always the Feds not Saint Bundy.....

or can I expect the Feds to go after the Chicago Thugs anytime soon?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (TE35l)

368 I can't remember if he's actually commented here, but he does read Ace. So one of us, really.


Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)


Only if he reads the comments.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (4df7R)

369
Speaking of destroying Tokyo...

a new Godzilla movie? Really?

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (aqrfx)

370 It's too bad Bundy had to be Bundy. The issue of govt overreach is important. But now it's a dead issue because anytime anyone will bring it up, the first reply will be, Oh so you support slavery?

Glenn Beck was smart in backing the fuck away from him, he knew the dude would self destruct eventually.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (0LHZx)

371 Hey Insomniac check your Hash. - DrWcr

Dang it AlextheChick, that sounds pretty horrible. Should leapt out of chair and objected to that woman being in anyway human, sounds more like a stupid AI drone.

EC et al, perhaps I chose words poorly. But that whole conversation and how some were treating the issue was not good for MY state of mind. So moving right along.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:54 AM (L8umz)

372 Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)

IIRC, "I aim to misbehave" was another quote entirely.

I may have missed a quote in your post though.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:54 AM (HDwDg)

373 I can't remember if he's actually commented here, but he does read Ace. So one of us, really.

Ace had him as a commenter during the livechat for a movie (sharknado?)

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 24, 2014 10:54 AM (C/o9W)

374 President was my longtime friend

Yeah Clooney, did you choom with him back in high school? Or is 5 years a long time for you? I bet you never met Urkel before 2008.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 24, 2014 10:54 AM (9Bdcz)

375 361 Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)

He has posted here, infrequently.

He does Twatter w/Ace directly....

IowaHawk, Ace, and Adam Baldwin had a good riff going on back in 2012

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:54 AM (TE35l)

376 I can't remember if he's actually commented here, but he does read Ace. So one of us, really.
Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)


Gooble gobble gooble gobble one of us one of us.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:55 AM (mf5HN)

377
btw, imdb has Mark Hamill listed as "rumored" to play Luke Skyshitter in SW ep 7.

Mark Hamill, in case you're unaware, does lots of voice acting and he is really talented at it.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:55 AM (aqrfx)

378 Is RWC an 'ette? I forget. If so, there's a proven way to sway the jury.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (JtwS4)

sigh

No.

Perhaps this can influence though.

Legartha cleaned up and ready for a night on the town.

http://tinyurl.com/lmvfwqf

(It's safe. Honest.)

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:55 AM (fWAjv)

379 So everyone is getting out the smelling salts over something CLive Bundy "allegedly" said that was "racist".. as reported by the New York Slimes. Fuck me.. really? THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG PEOPLE!!

Posted by: jewells45 at April 24, 2014 10:55 AM (l/N7H)

380 272 RWC, just watch the movie Serenity as a starter for Firefly.

No, no, no! Nein! Niet!

Firefly first. Serenity after.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:35 AM (PYAXX)

I agree with Allen. Watch the series first. Hubby and I watched Serenity at the behest of my father-in-law who insisted it was fantastic. We hated it and he says, "Well, if you'd watched Firefly you'd get it." Annoying.

So a few years later we watch Firefly on Netflix and then gave Serenity a second chance. Muuuuuuch better after watching the series. They've got a whole season of character development they're working off of in the movie and it makes it much more enjoyable if you're already acquainted with it.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at April 24, 2014 10:56 AM (qFpRI)

381
Oooo - CAC has the new design twitter homepage.

Purty!

https://twitter.com/conartcritic

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 10:56 AM (kdS6q)

382 Ok, but what about true orphan children with no next of kin able to or willing to take them?

1) Extremely tiny number in 21st century America.
2) Usually not babies. People want babies.

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:56 AM (ZKzrr)

383 a new Godzilla movie? Really?

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (aqrfx)


You clearly have not been paying attention to the epic squee around here about that movie.

And I for one approve. It's GOT to be better than that godawful Matthew Broderick version. And Ilike that they're making it darker than a lot of the more modern Godzilla movies. After all, the original "Gojira" was SUPPOSED to be scary.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:56 AM (4df7R)

384 why is Bundy a worse villain than Jerry Wright or Eric "My People" Holder...?

He isn't.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 10:56 AM (UyYYt)

385
But I would rather see Mark Hamill as Luke than some young fag flavor-of-the-month in Hollywood actor.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:57 AM (aqrfx)

386 Perhaps this can influence though.



Legartha cleaned up and ready for a night on the town.



http://tinyurl.com/lmvfwqf



(It's safe. Honest.)

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 10:55 AM (fWAjv)


Katheryn Winnick is Ukrainian.
Why the hell are we over there right now battling to save Winnick and the rest of those hawties from Ivan?

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:57 AM (GQ8sn)

387 376 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:55 AM (mf5HN)

Bwack-a BRAWKKK

it'd be interesting to get Iowahawk, Patterico, Ace, Jharles Chonson, Africa Chick, Reaganite, Zombie, and a few others back for a 15 yearish reunion and see where they're all at verus 2000ish politically

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 10:57 AM (TE35l)

388
And Carrie Fisher could go back on coke and get skinny enough to play Leia, I suppose.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:57 AM (aqrfx)

389 But that's not what the story says. The story says the insurance plans kept their networks small to save money. It said nothing of insurance plans lowering reimbursements.

Yes, because we all know that reporters get everything right when they report.

So the Bible cannot be symbolic in any way then? You believe it literally?

That's a straw-man of the worst variety, and I think you know it. Certainly I believe that, for instance, most of the books of prophecy are written in prophetic (sometimes called "Apocalyptic") language- that they are not literal descriptions of specific events. I also believe in parables, and generalizations, and such. However, the Apostles taught the Physical Resurrection of Christ as an actual, physical fact. They also taught the Miracles of Christ as actual, physical facts. Luke presents the miracles of the apostles as actual, physical facts.

This is not some hand-wavy "they didn't mean it literally." When Paul literally bored some poor kid to death (well, to sleep, and then he fell out the window), and Paul (well- God, through Paul) restored him to life that is presented as an actual, physical event. The Apostles (and the Epistles) often say "Oh, and you can check with these people, 'cause they were there."

It's one thing not to be a young-earth Creationist (I'm on the "why does this matter, again?" side of that argument). It's something else not to believe in the Physical Resurrection of Christ.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (PYAXX)

390 "I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (4df7R)

391 But if a private contract is OK for 2 of the 3 pairs, why not the third?

H8!!!!!

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (ZKzrr)

392 379 So everyone is getting out the smelling salts over something CLive Bundy "allegedly" said that was "racist".. as reported by the New York Slimes.

Rand's already backed away from him. The left is gleeful.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (UyYYt)

393 Mooch says the average American doesn't know much about the military because she doesn't know much about the military. By that logic, the average American doesn't know much about long division.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (OGUPx)

394 "Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:49 AM"

Yep. Poor little guy. Caught the story in the Herald last week. As Howie would say, in 'a wooded area' in a 'shallow grave' off the Pike.

http://tinyurl.com/lavjfdl

And good italics save, there. No barrel for you!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (knoK7)

395 Mark Hamill, in case you're unaware, does lots of voice acting and he is really talented at it.
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:55 AM (aqrfx)

He does a seriously badass Joker.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (DrWcr)

396 Oh to tie in with the whole Godzilla and nuclear weapons bad, the Marshall Islands are suing in the Hague nine countries. The US, Russia, and even North Korea that they should really really earnestly get rid of their nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (L8umz)

397 I may have missed a quote in your post though.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 10:54 AM (HDwDg)


Ok, I had the proper quote in my post.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (GQ8sn)

398
The whole idea of Godzilla, today, is stupid. Giant monsters on movie screens = dumb.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:59 AM (aqrfx)

399
why is Bundy a worse villain than Jerry Wright or Eric "My People" Holder...?

He isn't.


He isn't, but the point is we don't want racists on our side. Saying their side has racists doesn't change that. Do you want to match them in racism?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:59 AM (JtwS4)

400
Prince of Space, now that would be a great remake.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:59 AM (aqrfx)

401 Mark Hamill, in case you're unaware, does lots of voice acting and he is really talented at it.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:55 AM (aqrfx)



He does a seriously badass Joker.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (DrWcr)


Sadly, Hamill has said he has retired from doing any more Joker voiceovers. Batman: Arkham City was the last Joker he did.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)

402 You clearly have not been paying attention to the epic squee around here about that movie.

And I for one approve. It's GOT to be better than that godawful Matthew Broderick version. And Ilike that they're making it darker than a lot of the more modern Godzilla movies. After all, the original "Gojira" was SUPPOSED to be scary.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 10:56 AM (4df7R)


The ad campaign is brilliant for what it is that they aren't showing you. For once the entire movie isn't being spoiled by the trailers.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 10:59 AM (mf5HN)

403 What kind of man drinks tequila and then flips like a bitch when someone calls his boyfriend an asshole?

I think I understand now why Clooney is starting to look more and more like Bruce Jenner.

Posted by: Fritz at April 24, 2014 11:00 AM (UzPAd)

404 392 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (UyYYt)

The sequel to why we fight called "why we fucking constantly lose"...

All Rand had to say was "I'd defend Satan himself from an out of control predatory Federal Government...."

then follow up asking if Holder ever answered why he pardoned essentially the NBPP in Philly....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:00 AM (TE35l)

405 So I see that Oregon decided that (perhaps) just maybe, (nothing conclusive, mind you), using the corpses of dead babies to generate power, (going out on a limb here) might just look a tad bit - what's the word? - oh yeah...


DRIPPING DIARRHEA BAT FUCKING SHIT EVIL.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 11:01 AM (BZAd3)

406 Speaking of Japan, I was chatting online with a friend last night and she sent me this link to an animated earthquake visualization map of all the earthquakes in and around Japan in 2011. When you get to March 10th, the screen virtually EXPLODES. It's almost painful to watch.



www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSBjEvPH2j

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:01 AM (4df7R)

407 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (PYAXX)

As far as Young Earth Creationism goes, the dates they come up with (6k years or so?) roughly line up with the end of pre-history and the dawn of recorded oral history.

This seems to me to be an unlikely coincidence.
(That is to say, it seems reasonable to believe that ancient peoples might stick "creation" right about the time we started recording history via oral tradition.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 11:01 AM (HDwDg)

408 Ask Eric Holder about the midnight pardon of Rich.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 11:01 AM (L8umz)

409 Re: spoilers, I almost forgot - Soylent Green is people!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 11:01 AM (DrWcr)

410 370 It's too bad Bundy had to be Bundy. The issue of govt overreach is important. But now it's a dead issue because anytime anyone will bring it up, the first reply will be, Oh so you support slavery?

Glenn Beck was smart in backing the fuck away from him, he knew the dude would self destruct eventually.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 24, 2014 10:53 AM (0LHZx)


Same thing happens if you bring up the notion of secession. Too many people simply cannot comprehend the issue of secession separate from the issue of slavery. Damn slavers fucked it up for everyone.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:02 AM (bb5+k)

411 The whole idea of Godzilla, today, is stupid. Giant monsters on movie screens = dumb.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 10:59 AM (aqrfx)


Not if they do it right.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 24, 2014 11:02 AM (4df7R)

412 Bruce Willis was dead all along.
The Crying Game chick is a dude.
The Village is actually in a modern-day nature preserve.
Tyler Durden is a figment of The Narrator's imagination.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 10:52 AM (DrWcr)

=======

"To Serve Mankind" was a cook book.

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 24, 2014 11:02 AM (OtQXp)

413 399 Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 24, 2014 10:59 AM (JtwS4)

I'm willing to destroy the left by any means necessary since they have been allowed to get their fascist on so openly these last 6 years.

You're not because you cannot stand that there are morally imperfect people imperiled by an out of control Federal government too.

It's not a problem, I'm glad you are so pristine....

We're fucked but we'll make smashing corpses.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:02 AM (TE35l)

414 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (PYAXX)

Yea, I don't agree, obviously. I haven't seen anything in this worldly existence that would allow a person to be resurrected from actual death. Maybe the person was in a near-death state, rather than actually dead, people back then likely would not have been able to tell the difference.





Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 11:03 AM (p7BzH)

415 So, there was a Sikh in some of my classes in college. Does that story mean he always had a knife with him? Cause that's kind of funny. And probably illegal in DC. And on campus.

Posted by: Lea at April 24, 2014 11:03 AM (lIU4e)

416 408 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 11:01 AM (L8umz)


Huh?

Never heard of it!

*wink*

//Al-NYT impersonating Chaz Gibby

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:03 AM (TE35l)

417 Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:58 AM (GQ8sn

I blame the 1999 blog software!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 11:03 AM (HDwDg)

418 So, there was a Sikh in some of my classes in college. Does that story
mean he always had a knife with him? Cause that's kind of funny. And
probably illegal in DC. And on campus.



Only baptized Sikhs can carry them.

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)

419
yeah, it's weird that the wacky Taiwanese hasn't made a funny animation about Flight 370, yet.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:04 AM (aqrfx)

420 Three American doctors killed in attack at Afghan hospital

http://is.gd/Kk6tKD

Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 11:04 AM (ZKzrr)

421 Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 10:57 AM (GQ8sn)


I'd volunteer to airlift them out of Kiev.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 11:04 AM (fWAjv)

422 So, there was a Sikh in some of my classes in college. Does that story

mean he always had a knife with him? Cause that's kind of funny. And

probably illegal in DC. And on campus.


Only baptized Sikhs can carry them.


Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)


EDIT
I should add that there was probably no way you could know this short of asking him. Maybe he did and didn't tell anyone because he knew what a shitstorm it would be?

Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 11:04 AM (GQ8sn)

423 I don't think someone that has loved Arnold Schwarzenegger's latest movies should be getting critical about whether a giant monster movie is dumb.

Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 11:04 AM (LI48c)

424 Newb

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 24, 2014 11:05 AM (jsWA8)

425
Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you —unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me. For I am the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God that is with me. Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed. Now if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain. We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified about God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised.<b> For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied. </b>
1st Cornthians 15:1-19

Posted by: random lurker at April 24, 2014 11:05 AM (8k4t6)

426 The most awesome thing about Sikh's are that they recognized the evil of Islam centuries ago.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 11:06 AM (BZAd3)

427
I didn't love Arnold's Last Stand movie; I said I liked it.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 11:06 AM (aqrfx)

428 Posted by: random lurker at April 24, 2014 11:05 AM (8k4t6)


Or not.

Posted by: eman at April 24, 2014 11:06 AM (AO9UG)

429 Perhaps if I give a .357 a "ceremonial name" I can carry it into court as well?

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:31 AM (T2V/1)


As a juror? If you're a law abiding citizen, legally allowed to carry the weapon? Of course you should be allowed. Why not?

Posted by: Weirddave at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (N/cFh)

430 Nood.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (knoK7)

431
Somebody told you there were no good guys in the Bundy / BLM faceoff. BLM, in conjunction with DOJ, picked that guy for a reason.

So now, we'll get a great big media fueled guilt-by-association campaign against those who stood up against the BLM.

BLM could give two-shits less about Bundy, his cows, or the turtles they may step on. This is a PR campaign ... the only thing this admin can do well. Bundy would be best served to not speak directly to the media - but he just can not help himself.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (/95J8)

432 307
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 10:39 AM (PYAXX



Stop.

Or we'll get a stoned CAC in here asking of God can microwave a burrito so hot He can't touch it.
========
Or Ace coming in to the end of a dead post to scold us for sounding like a bunch of silly fundies.
(Which is to say, I raffed when he come in with "For God's sake" at the end of the earth-like planet post.)

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 11:07 AM (VjL9S)

433
Yea, I don't agree, obviously. I haven't seen anything in this worldly existence that would allow a person to be resurrected from actual death. Maybe the person was in a near-death state, rather than actually dead, people back then likely would not have been able to tell the difference.



Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 11:03 AM (p7BzH)


My recollection is that the Bible said he stank, as if his flesh were rotten.


It wasn't near death, it was pretty damn far over the line for total and complete death.


Posted by: D-Lamp at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (bb5+k)

434 Holy Crap. I mean WTF. Millionaire Obama donor brutally beats girlfriend for 30 minutes, it's all on videotape.

= 25 hrs of community service

http://tinyurl.com/n7sz5ju

(sorry if already posted)

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 24, 2014 11:10 AM (XvrTA)

435 It is remarkable, okay, not so remarkable, that the Left would use PBS stories as a reference for for a seemingly objective commentary. PBS specializes in locating poster children as the basis for anything that they report.

I am especially amused when they produce a report from some remote village and solicit interpreted comments from a local. In the translation, the local always speaks like a Harvard faculty lounge professor. It is astonishing how erudite and well-spoken primitive people are.

Posted by: Mike Hammer

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 11:12 AM (aDwsi)

436 I'm willing to destroy the left by any means necessary since they have
been allowed to get their fascist on so openly these last 6 years.

You're
not because you cannot stand that there are morally imperfect people
imperiled by an out of control Federal government too.

It's not a problem, I'm glad you are so pristine....

We're fucked but we'll make smashing corpses.
============
John Brown was a fucking lunatic, absolutely insane.

And yet the abolitionists still rallied around him . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (VjL9S)

437 "Only baptized Sikhs can carry them.Posted by: EC at April 24, 2014 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)EDITI should add that there was probably no way you could know this short of asking him. "
******

Interesting! I wasn't close enough to the guy to ask, although he did have a pretty rocking turban/beard combo going. And he showered, unlike the Muslims.

Posted by: Lea at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (lIU4e)

438
I wouldn't watch a (free to me) PPV viewing of Gravity because that asshat Clooney is in it. Fuck him; I'll not put a dime in his pocket willingly.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 24, 2014 09:32 AM (wNF3N)








Downloaded a pirated version via BitTorrent (fuck you, Hollywood). Okay flick at best, and that's being generous. The action scenes were stunning though.

Best part of the film: Clooney dies a horrible death from asphyxiation.

Worst part of the film: Clooney's death is off-screen.

Schadenfreudey goodness: The only reason Clooney died is because his jet pack ran out of fuel. And he only had himself to blame because at the beginning of the flick he burned up a bunch of fuel joy-riding the jet pack by flying circles around the Space Shuttle.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2014 11:17 AM (TIIx5)

439 I'd volunteer to airlift them out of Kiev.

I'd volunteer to house one or two.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Spoiler Wrangler at April 24, 2014 11:18 AM (rt3TY)

440 436 Posted by: RoyalOil at April 24, 2014 11:16 AM (VjL9S)

Indeed....

Honest John Boehner and Prince Reebus would have ran like hell from Abolition.

I have no use for Bundy's particulars.

I have less use for Fascism's enablers

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (TE35l)

441 Your friend is an asshole


Then his body guards stand up


Ya

I'm sure Clooney wasn't drunk or anything



They sure get all butt hurt about their "good friend". No tears for Benghazi though. Stupid Dick.

Posted by: Thunderb at April 24, 2014 11:20 AM (zOTsN)

442 @129 The Walking Dude

"I am working in China. Do you know why?" Expat-land is a big place. Welcome to the club. We got jackets.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 24, 2014 11:25 AM (0cBHN)

443 "Honest John Boehner and Prince Reebus would have ran like hell from Abolition."

I'm am shocked, SHOCKED to see that idiot Righties are rushing to blame Teh Establishment instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. SHOCKED.

Enjoy fueling the Left's BS narratives. It's all they have and yet, here we are.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 24, 2014 12:04 PM (EQcfE)

444 293 Posted by: KG at April 24, 2014 10:34 AM (p7BzH)

Errr... so the whole Bible is a lie? The whole thing? All of it? Because if any single part of the Bible is an outright lie, the whole thing must be.

And how would it be "violating the integrity of His creation?" It's HIS creation! I think He would know better than you what would "violate" its "integrity."

Further, a God limited by the rules of His own Creation is not God at all (God being, by definition "Infinite" which means, more-or-less literally, "without limit").

But I don't need to argue this. Either you believe what the Bible says, or you don't. If you don't, I don't know how you would claim to be a Christian (which I don't know if you do or not- so that's a more general statement).
--------

Thank you Allen! I was pretty shocked at his/her comment but you said it so much better than I could have. I, too, believe in an omnipotent God who is not limited by anything.

Posted by: Chillin the most at April 24, 2014 12:06 PM (gxtMZ)

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A former commanding officer of the famed Blue Angels aerial demonstration team was relieved of duty amid allegations of "lewd speech, inappropriate comments, and sexually explicit humor" and pornography, the Navy said Wednesday.

...

McWherter allowed "and in some cases encouraged" the sexually inappropriate misconduct in the workplace, according to Wednesday's statement.

I, for one, am shocked to find such conduct in the Navy.

In similarly shocking news, the New York Yankees cheat.


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Comments

1 Good Morning,

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (gjOCp)

2 In a few years, anyone with any aggressive or martial tendencies will be drummed out of the armed forces.

Interior decorators, graphic artists and caterers will be the only people with the correct mindset to fight our wars.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (QFxY5)

3 Interior decorators, graphic artists and caterers will be the only people with the correct mindset to fight our wars.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (QFxY5)


But think of the faaaaaaaabulous uniforms!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (MPIX5)

4 Well, there goes my fornicatering business

Posted by: Where's Batman? at April 24, 2014 07:31 AM (9/iF+)

5 I guess the entire horde should be fired too.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 24, 2014 07:31 AM (cdgHW)

6 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:32 AM (PYAXX)

7 Morning news is over on the ONT. I have an appointment in town at 0800 and there was a lot of stuff so I could not wait.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:32 AM (T2V/1)

8 Sexually explicit humor is off limits, but the gays can have shower olympics in the military now. Way to go dims, way to go.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 24, 2014 07:33 AM (KlVdw)

9 Link to start of news links


http://minx.cc/?blog=86post=348737#c22059430

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:33 AM (T2V/1)

10 Anybody discuss the VA scandal in Arizona yet? Gumint health care at its best.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 07:33 AM (m4SHR)

11 In a few years, anyone with any aggressive or martial tendencies will be drummed out of the armed forces.


No men in the miltary!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 07:33 AM (d0Dmj)

12 FFS. If he's what they're drumming out of the military while leaving people like Nidal Hassan in, my days of taking the US military seriously may be numbered.

Posted by: Klawnet at April 24, 2014 07:34 AM (ZBXhE)

13 Glad I'm retired. I weep for my Navy.

Posted by: Butch at April 24, 2014 07:35 AM (m12IB)

14 I loved the line in the Yankees cheating article that "pine tar or other sticky substances are commonly used..."

"Oh, *everybody* does it!"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:35 AM (PYAXX)

15 And some Navy official accidentally emailed details of the case to the Washington Post reporter. Yeah...."accidentally." Sure, buddy.

Posted by: Mainah at April 24, 2014 07:35 AM (659DL)

16 CBD,
I can’t believe we’re the only ones here.

Where’s J.J. & Vic?

Vic may have a doctor’s appointment. He had one last week & they changed it on him w/o letting him know, so he went there and wasted hours. It might me rescheduled to today but he should still be here now.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 07:35 AM (gjOCp)

17 In the Navy....

it sorta saddens me the Navy is as prissy PC as the USAF these days.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:36 AM (TE35l)

18 Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 07:35 AM (gjOCp)

Vic & MP4 posted their normal morning stuff at the end of the ONT, since the THC wasn't lit up, yet.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:36 AM (PYAXX)

19 Vic,
I thought your appointment was rescheduled to today. Good Luck!

Mine is tomorrow for one neck injection, next is May 9.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 07:36 AM (gjOCp)

20 He was on the earlier thread, Carol. He's leaving for a dental appt.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:37 AM (XyM/Y)

21 Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 07:35 AM (gjOCp)



I am here now but will be leaving shortly for dental appointment.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:37 AM (T2V/1)

22 Not sure why, but Fox News links freeze up Safari on my iTampon.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2014 07:37 AM (Ua6T/)

23 8 Posted by: Darth Randall at April 24, 2014 07:33 AM (KlVdw)

Because Hetero sexuality is icky and breederish and homosexuality is like art and shit...

//General Manly Throw McMomJeans Hero of Hole and Cornhole 19

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:37 AM (TE35l)

24 19
Vic,

I thought your appointment was rescheduled to today. Good Luck!



Mine is tomorrow for one neck injection, next is May 9.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 07:36 AM (gjOCp)

I finally got a call back from them and have it rescheduled for May 2 due to the conflict with dental appointment that I already had scheduled.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:38 AM (T2V/1)

25 time to go folks. bbl

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:42 AM (T2V/1)

26 My God. The next thing you're going to tell me is that the Cubs have no chance to win the World Series this decade.


Story time! I worked in an office with a woman who was Ever So Holier Than Thou and she attempted to cause all kinds of ruckus because some of the men who worked in the office left copies of HM in the break room. She was going on and on and on about how it was pornography and demeaning and yadda yadda and I finally snapped and blurted out "That's rich coming from someone who sits there reading red cover Harlequins."

She turned every shade of red and shut up.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 24, 2014 07:42 AM (dMSj2)

27 Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 24, 2014 07:42 AM (dMSj2)

Why can't I work with people like you? My life would be simultaneously more interesting and less frustrating.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:44 AM (PYAXX)

28 DAY 534

929 to go (1,003 to Inauguration Day 2017)


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:45 AM (CMkNk)

29 Good morning pixel people, off to veiw the newsage and then back.

Posted by: Gmac at April 24, 2014 07:45 AM (4pjhs)

30 26 Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 24, 2014 07:42 AM (dMSj2)

I just think it is hilarious and awesome that to Donk-E an O-6 is to be held to higher moral standards than the PotUS

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:45 AM (TE35l)

31 3 But think of the faaaaaaaabulous uniforms!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (MPIX5)


Jawol!!!


---Zombie Himmler in Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:45 AM (CMkNk)

32 And now we have students up in arms at Washington and Lee:

Student groups seem to be getting more aggressive when it comes to making demands related to “diversity”.

We reported that University of Michigan and Dartmouth students threatened “physical action” if their demands were not met. Now, students at a Virginia institution say they are planning “civil disobedience.”

"A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and “acknowledge” General Robert E. Lee’s “dishonorable side.”

According to the Roanoke Times, “seven multiracial students, calling themselves ‘The Committee,’” have also demanded the school “acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery.” They want recognition of “Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus” and an end to “neo-Confederates” marching across campus “to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day.”

The students say they will “engage in civil disobedience” if their demands are not met by September 1st.

They added: “The time has come for us, as students, to ask that the university hold itself responsible for its past and present dishonorable conduct and for the racist and dishonorable conduct of Robert E. Lee.”

^^ from Legal Insurrection website


Maybe they should dig up Lee's remains and hang him from a campus lamppost. if they were so bothered by his background why did they go there in the first place?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:46 AM (XyM/Y)

33 "That's rich coming from someone who sits there reading red cover Harlequins."

They have a color code? Do tell.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2014 07:46 AM (Ua6T/)

34 Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 24, 2014 07:42 AM (dMSj2)
-----------

Not being up on HM, I looked up HM magazine and discovered that it's a magazine about Christian Metal groups. Some how I don't think this is what you are referring to.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 24, 2014 07:46 AM (KlVdw)

35 All winter long
I pray for Spring,
So I won't
wake up freezing.

So, here we are.
It's Spring at last
Great! Now I
wake up sneezing.

—Karma Shave
____

Morning, Glories! Another day to contribute our little souls' efforts toward the advancement of the Almighty Supreme Culmination of Time-Space evolutionary creation. You didn't have anything else planned, did you?

Posted by: mindful webworker just in case at April 24, 2014 07:46 AM (x1L8S)

36
Back from the gym. I actually forked over good money for a trainer for the past month or so and I'm actually feeling all buff.

Then again, Harry Reid likes to feel Buffy… and Jodie.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (CMkNk)

37 PIV is icky and oppressive and imperialistic and causes global warming.

Cocksucking however, is avant garde, and edgy and hip.

You heard about Boomers, strategic missile subs. 180 men go out to sea for 6 months at a time. 90 couples return.

Posted by: USN at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (V70Uh)

38 P.S. Things done by a "Committee" are often c**p

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (XyM/Y)

39 meanwhile i'll be off to the doc soon for my tetnus shot. Got myself bit by a neighborhood dog last night on the arm while jogging.

Wife is in full panic mode.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (TfdkD)

40 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:46 AM (XyM/Y)

Fuck them and the horses they rode in on.

That is all.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:48 AM (PYAXX)

41 I thought Jodie Foster was married to an Army Sergeant.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 24, 2014 07:48 AM (V70Uh)

42 32 Maybe they should dig up Lee's remains and hang him from a campus lamppost. if they were so bothered by his background why did they go there in the first place?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:46 AM (XyM/Y)


For the same reason Sandra "it's always Fleet Week between my legs" Fluke enrolled at a Catholic university.

Preprogrammed to explode when needed. Like "Telefon."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:48 AM (CMkNk)

43 You heard about Boomers, strategic missile subs. 180 men go out to sea for 6 months at a time. 90 couples return.

---

Give us a few years...

Posted by: Polygamists at April 24, 2014 07:49 AM (TfdkD)

44 Then again, Harry Reid likes to feel Buffy… and Jodie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (CMkNk)


I thought he liked to feel Bobby and Joey.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:49 AM (PYAXX)

45
New York/New Jersey Moron Meet-up

Thursday, May 1st
6pm-9pm
West Village

All Morons and their handlers are welcome.

for additional info, email me at:

nynjmeet at optimum dot net

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 07:49 AM (QFxY5)

46 Vic has teeth?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 24, 2014 07:49 AM (Fp7JI)

47 41 I thought Jodie Foster was married to an Army Sergeant.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 24, 2014 07:48 AM (V70Uh)


Or Dick Sargent. Or was it Dick York?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:49 AM (CMkNk)

48 Then again, Harry Reid likes to feel Buffy… and Jodie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (CMkNk)

--------------

So now we know why Buffy overdosed.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 24, 2014 07:50 AM (KlVdw)

49 Thank you Allen G.

I was up early and finished watching The Americans on demand. I don’t know why I’m so tired lately but I fall asleep too early.

I thought I needed light & sunshine & being outside but I was out in my garden all last weekend & Monday. I have roses & they are a lot of work. I am fine until I sit down and then I crash.

I don’t think I’m getting enough sleep. I have a pain in my arm and meds don’t work on it because it’s from my neck.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 07:50 AM (gjOCp)

50 45 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 07:49 AM (QFxY5)


Ladies, you will see me! Gentlemen, you will have the honor of picking up my bar tab.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:50 AM (CMkNk)

51 47 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:49 AM (CMkNk)

I always referred to him as "Richard" for uh obvious reasons...

//J Foster

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:50 AM (TE35l)

52 students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and “acknowledge” General Robert E. Lee’s “dishonorable side.”

Ok, as long as they're willing to "acknowledge" MLK "dishonorable side" as well.

Posted by: Never gonna happen at April 24, 2014 07:51 AM (10H0T)

53 46 Vic has teeth?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 24, 2014 07:49 AM (Fp7JI)


Wooden teeth that he bought from a chemist's in Augsburg… despite the fire risk.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:51 AM (CMkNk)

54 Good morning, good morning to you.

Nothin' could be grander than to be in Louisiana!


Yes, yes we have watched some musicals lately.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 24, 2014 07:51 AM (SUKHu)

55 Or Dick Sargent. Or was it Dick York?

---

she wouldn't marry just any tom, dick or harry...

Posted by: Polygamists at April 24, 2014 07:51 AM (TfdkD)

56 Morning fappers!


But first, you will blow me!


In the ass!


What? Why are you all staring at me!

Posted by: Thunderb at April 24, 2014 07:52 AM (zOTsN)

57 53 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:51 AM (CMkNk)

They were wood, and ivory...

Vic got a bonus from John Paul-Jones that was well spent

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:52 AM (TE35l)

58 55 she wouldn't marry just any tom, dick or harry...
Posted by: Polygamists at April 24, 2014 07:51 AM (TfdkD)


…or Clem.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:52 AM (CMkNk)

59 Can we just start making enlistment ads like the Japanese navy.

Seamen ship seamen ship for love.

Seamen ship seamen ship for peace!

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 07:52 AM (DUA60)

60 54 Yes, yes we have watched some musicals lately.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 24, 2014 07:51 AM (SUKHu)


Carolina does rhyme with…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:53 AM (CMkNk)

61
Tilling the garden....my hemp will not plant itself.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 24, 2014 07:55 AM (Fp7JI)

62 It's not as if Washington and Lee never had black students before this. It's a fine school. The other people who went there who were multi racial or black somehow managed to work hard and get their degrees and go off to jobs. But in the age of the selfie everybody has to get their name in the paper or their face on T.V.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:55 AM (XyM/Y)

63 We've come a long way since Patton said a man who won't fuck won't fight.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 24, 2014 07:56 AM (rm+RE)

64 Mindful Webworker,
I prayed for spring & despite beautiful days last weekend, Monday & Tuesday. I don’t work Wednesdays & have roses to plant. It was raining in the morning & cleared up later. I went outside at 4:30 and couldn’t take it. It was cold and windy & I had three sweatshirts on, plus a sherpa lined sweatshirt jacket. I think I lasted an hour.

I won’t be able to do anything this weekend. Neck injections cause more pain for a few days. I’m getting one tomorrow.

I have heat on this morning, it’s only 41 in Boston area. I’m sick of oil bills too!

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 07:57 AM (gjOCp)

65 I'd like to join the Israeli Army. Will they take a 54 year old fershlepterkrank?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:57 AM (CMkNk)

66 We've come a long way since Patton said a man who won't fuck won't fight.

Anyone know the way back?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:57 AM (PYAXX)

67 There were black men and creole who fought, willingly, on the side of the confederacy.

Posted by: Thunderb at April 24, 2014 07:57 AM (zOTsN)

68 Morning all.

Thank G-D the Navy doesn't know 1/2 things the I think and think about doing on Duty.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 07:57 AM (t3UFN)

69 39 meanwhile i'll be off to the doc soon for my tetnus shot. Got myself bit by a neighborhood dog last night on the arm while jogging.

Wife is in full panic mode.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (TfdkD)




Dog bites aren't that worrisome (though painful), especially if it's a neighborhood dog you know. Chances of rabies are practically nil. Cat bites are worse. Those critters be poisonous.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 07:58 AM (oMKp3)

70 "meanwhile i'll be off to the doc soon for my tetnus shot. Got myself bit by a neighborhood dog last night on the arm while jogging.

Wife is in full panic mode.
"
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (TfdkD)

As long as your Niece is "safe". I'm so glad that you "passed that test."

Have you been "tested", since?

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 07:58 AM (lq3Ak)

71 68 Morning all.

Thank G-D the Navy doesn't know 1/2 things the I think and think about doing on Duty.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 07:57 AM (t3UFN)


Whatever you do, don't push that red button on the control panel!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:59 AM (CMkNk)

72 I'd like to join the Israeli Army. Will they take a 54 year old fershlepterkrank?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 07:57 AM (CMkNk)


You could do one of them picking on garbage and being a gofer on an Israeli Army base. Serioulsy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 07:59 AM (t3UFN)

73 "A former commanding officer of the famed Blue Angels aerial
demonstration team was relieved of duty amid allegations of "lewd
speech, inappropriate comments, and sexually explicit humor" and
pornography, the Navy said Wednesday."

======

So now you can get kicked out of the Navy for behaving like a Sailor?

Who knew?!

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 24, 2014 07:59 AM (OtQXp)

74 65 I'd like to join the Israeli Army. Will they take a 54 year old fershlepterkrank?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Let me know because I'd love to use some of the tools they have.

Posted by: Gmac at April 24, 2014 08:00 AM (4pjhs)

75 We've come a long way since Patton said a man who won't fuck won't fight.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 24, 2014 07:56 AM (rm+RE)


Today's brass would be rendered autistic by that statement.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 08:00 AM (m4SHR)

76 67 There were black men and creole who fought, willingly, on the side of the confederacy.
Posted by: Thunderb at April 24, 2014 07:57 AM (zOTsN)


Hell, there would be no slave trade without a lot of Africans helping to trap and sell their own to evil white "bwanna."

Tell that to a lib.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:00 AM (CMkNk)

77 Gaylord Perry and his Hall of Fame-sized tub of Vaseline could not be reached for comment.

Good morning, crazies.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:01 AM (659DL)

78 Lovely "severe weather maps" popping up on Twitter.

I'm in every one!! Such pretty colors.

>>Carolina does rhyme with…

Faralina?

I must need more coffee...

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 24, 2014 08:01 AM (SUKHu)

79 Good Morning, Grammie Winger!

I should post this in weekend gardening thread, but since the subject came up, if people work in the garden and near soil, you should get a tetanus shot at least every ten years, some experienced gardeners, especially doctors that grow roses, suggest five years.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 08:01 AM (gjOCp)

80 I have heat on this morning, it’s only 41 in Boston area. I’m sick of oil bills too!

You could always come to Texas.

There were black men and creole who fought, willingly, on the side of the confederacy.

Interesting history/personal anecdote. Well, maybe not so interesting, but I'm sharing anyway-

The town where I grew up was named for the man who first vociferously advocated freeing the slaves in the South. He was an Irishman who owned no slaves, but believed strongly that the South was fighting for the Right of Self Determination- not the "right to keep slaves."

His name was Patrick Cleburne.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:01 AM (PYAXX)

81 78
I must need more coffee...
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 24, 2014 08:01 AM (SUKHu)

Really? After all this time, you don't realize it's a female anatomical reference???

If you don't know me by now...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:02 AM (CMkNk)

82 Have you been "tested", since?

---

Well, now that we have a hot tub, young folks do show up in bikinis...

As I tell them, what happens in the hot tub stays in the hot tub, until I clean the filter

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 08:03 AM (TfdkD)

83 Good morning Carol!

When your roses are in full bloom this summer, I'd love it if you could post some pictures. It must be glorious in your yard.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 08:03 AM (oMKp3)

84 77 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:01 AM (659DL)

Using the words "Gaylord" and "Vaseline" in the same sentence is just wrong.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:03 AM (CMkNk)

85 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:01 AM (PYAXX)

Your microaggression requires resettlement in a reeducation camp for an undetermined period, during which you will receive daily education on the ills of racism and conservatism.

Posted by: Democrat Party at April 24, 2014 08:04 AM (QFxY5)

86 President Obama pledged Thursday that the U.S. would come to Japan’s defense if China further threatens a disputed chain of islands, but said he isn’t drawing another “red line” on possible military action.
At a press conference in Tokyo, Mr. Obama said the U.S. is bound by the terms of a 1952 treaty with Japan to come to its defense if the territory is threatened.
“The treaty between the United States and Japan preceded my birth, so this isn’t a red line that I’m drawing,” Mr. Obama said. “Our position is not new. We do not believe [the islands] should be subject to change unilaterally. The treaty covers all territories administered by Japan.”



No but what is new is having a weasel like you in the White House. I mean what are we going to come to their aid with? A decimated Military that does not have the tools to fight and can't fuck anymore either

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:04 AM (t3UFN)

87 84 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:03 AM (CMkNk)

Not really....

//R Love, esq

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:04 AM (TE35l)

88 Using the words "Gaylord" and "Vaseline" in the same sentence is just wrong.

True story: Perry was loading them up so brazenly one day that his catcher begged the umpire to inspect the ball because he was "drowning."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:05 AM (659DL)

89 Hell, there would be no slave trade without a lot of Africans helping to trap and sell their own to evil white "bwanna."

Tell that to a lib.



I do. Every chance I get. Because I'm a giver.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:05 AM (uVkIH)

90 Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 08:03 AM (TfdkD)

You should ask someone for help.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 08:06 AM (lq3Ak)

91 Dog bites aren't that worrisome (though painful), especially if it's a neighborhood dog you know. Chances of rabies are practically nil. Cat bites are worse. Those critters be poisonous.

---

not too bad, slit wound little over an inch long on my forearm, two small puncture wounds. Yeah, it was a young lab being walked by a local teen. So I figured it had had some shots.

Bleeding stopped, wound is probably still weeping a bit. Been 20 years since a friend's dog latched himself onto my face on New Years. That one hurt more.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 08:06 AM (TfdkD)

92 Why do men act like such men!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at April 24, 2014 08:06 AM (BNuW6)

93 High school seniors cited for Nerf gun battle

Police have issued disorderly conduct citations to six high school seniors in Wausau Wisconsin for a toy Nerf gun battle.

Some residents of Wausau called police when they saw the young people pointing a gun at a car Tuesday night. But, it was only a toy Nerf gun that shoots foam bullets. Police Capt. Ben Bliven tells WAOW-TV a number of people were frightened by the plastic Nerf guns, so officers had to respond appropriately.

One parent who saw the Nerf gun battle, Scott Hansen, says police went too far in issuing disorderly conduct citations. Wausau West High School officials have also placed some students on athletic probation.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 08:07 AM (oMKp3)

94 True story: Perry was loading them up so brazenly
one day that his catcher begged the umpire to inspect the ball because
he was "drowning."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:05 AM (659DL)


Have you seen a picture of him lately? I think his mail is forwarded to an all you can eat buffet.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 08:07 AM (m4SHR)

95 We've come a long way since Patton said a man who won't fuck won't fight.

---

The converse is not always true of course

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 24, 2014 08:07 AM (TfdkD)

96 Hey let's play spot the weasel words -- quoting from the Vox piece in the sidebar:

An early United Nations plan to give each group part of the land failed...

WHEN THE ARABS DID NOT ABIDE BY IT AND DECLARED WAR ON ISRAEL AND THEN GOT THEIR ASSES KICKED AGAIN AND AGAIN THEREBY LEADING TO THE CURRENT HYPERVENTILATING ABOUT INJUSTICE. AND OH, DID WE MENTION THAT GAZA AND THE WEST BACK WERE UNDER EGYPTIAN AND SYRIAN CONTROL FOR TWO DECADES AND THEY DIDN'T OFFER A STATE TO THE UNSTATED ARABS? NO, THERE IS NO HISTORICAL BASIS FOR REFERRING TO A PALESTINIAN "PEOPLE."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:08 AM (659DL)

97 “The treaty between the United States and Japan preceded my birth, so this isn’t a red line that I’m drawing,”

This clown won't like the Second Coming.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2014 08:09 AM (Ua6T/)

98 JJ, NGU, Possibly, I have been misinformed. Is it true that Tribe membership is passed down matrial? (Thru the mother?) Serious question.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:09 AM (uVkIH)

99 Have you seen a picture of him lately? I think his mail is forwarded to an all you can eat buffet.

You don't have to look at him lately. From about 1980 on, he was not exactly svelte.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:09 AM (659DL)

100 Some residents of Wausau called police when they saw the young people pointing a gun at a car Tuesday night. But, it was only a toy Nerf gun that shoots foam bullets. Police Capt. Ben Bliven tells WAOW-TV a number of people were frightened by the plastic Nerf guns, so officers had to respond appropriately.

Seriously? Seriously? They were frightened by Nerf guns!?

What the fark, people? If you can't look at a Nerf gun, even in the dark, and realize it's not a real gun you have some serious issues. The things tend to be day-glo orange.

And that doesn't even begin to get into the issue I have with officers issuing "disorderly conduct" citations because people were "frightened" of something so unthreatening as a Nerf gun. Those cops should have laughed at the callers, told the kids to behave, and the left.

What the F is wrong with people?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:10 AM (PYAXX)

101 Fifty thousand black men, sir, fought for Dixie. Great way to liven up a meeting.

There are those who claim the North won because they had three times as many.
If there is a dishonorable side to Robert E. Lee, please enlighten the whole class. I've read several books about him, by several stripes of historian, and have yet to hear of it, even though I am no particular partisan. Also, he was president of the college in question, saved it from bankruptcy, and raised its standards. This isn't just about That War, is it? There may be no future in being a gracious loser.

They may be picking on the wrong general here. There certainly were enough rotters around (on either side) to keep thesis-writers busy. Somebody needs a transfer.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 24, 2014 08:10 AM (xq1UY)

102 >>Really? After all this time, you don't realize it's a female anatomical reference???

Well, the odds were in favor of that, but I don't know this one.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 24, 2014 08:11 AM (SUKHu)

103 You should ask someone for help.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 08:06 AM (lq3Ak)

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Great, filter cleaning day is Saturday. Try to not make too much noise. If you find anything sticky it's probably just pine tar. Helps with getting a better grip...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 08:11 AM (TfdkD)

104 Police Capt. Ben Bliven tells WAOW-TV a number of people were frightened by the plastic Nerf guns, so officers had to respond appropriately.

Which would have been to say "Knock it off around traffic and go home."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:11 AM (659DL)

105 “The treaty between the United States and Japan preceded my birth, so this isn’t a red line that I’m drawing,”

Only he would frame it that way.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:12 AM (659DL)

106 What the fark, people? If you can't look at a Nerf gun, even in the dark, and realize it's not a real gun you have some serious issues. The things tend to be day-glo orange.


And day-glo lime green. Talk about clash.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:13 AM (uVkIH)

107 104-Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:11 AM (659DL)

The park is over there dumbasses...

I come out again you're going to regret it.

//Smart cop from the 80s

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:13 AM (TE35l)

108 Allen G.,
I would love to go to Texas. I hope to retire there, once the SCOAMF is out of office & housing prices increase. I have family home & it’s much too big for one person. My older brother lives in apartment downstairs but I have two floors to myself. If I had a second bathroom I would get a roommate.

When housing prices go up and I can sell house at it’s worth, I will and buy small home for us with two small apartments & a huge yard.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 08:13 AM (gjOCp)

109 101: "There may be no future in being a gracious loser."

A fact that escapes the GOPe. But I don't think CWII will allow anyone to be gracious.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at April 24, 2014 08:13 AM (LJpVo)

110 Morning Morons, the hell you say.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 08:13 AM (HVff2)

111 Obama really wants to get us into war, doesn't he?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 08:13 AM (XyM/Y)

112 105 “The treaty between the United States and Japan preceded my birth, so this isn’t a red line that I’m drawing,”

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Shouldn't this be a yellow line?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 08:14 AM (TfdkD)

113 “The treaty between the United States and Japan preceded my birth, so this isn’t a red line that I’m drawing,”

George Will calls him an arrested development adolescent and the Wapo blog erupts.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 24, 2014 08:14 AM (V70Uh)

114 2 In a few years, anyone with any aggressive or martial tendencies will be drummed out of the armed forces.

Interior decorators, graphic artists and caterers will be the only people with the correct mindset to fight our wars.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (QFxY5

Then you and Pink Floyd can hang out with yours and theirs Anti-Semitic tendencies.

////sarc

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (HVff2)

115 105 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:12 AM (659DL)


When you understand he views the Constitution and Bill of Rights the same way....

it all falls into place.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (TE35l)

116 Taking the kid to vote today. First timer. He's excited.

Posted by: NCKate at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (UQyRl)

117 If the commanding officer of the Blue angels is not smart enough to know what sort of conduct is going to get him in hot water (Tailhook anyone?) then he shouldn't be in that command position.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Ragey. My Friends at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (QCOmY)

118 JJ, NGU, Possibly, I have been misinformed. Is it true that Tribe membership is passed down matrial? (Thru the mother?) Serious question.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:09 AM (uVkIH)

Yes, for obvious reasons

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (t3UFN)

119 98 JJ, NGU, Possibly, I have been misinformed. Is it true that Tribe membership is passed down matrial? (Thru the mother?) Serious question.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:09 AM (uVkIH)


Yes. If you had a Yiddische mama, then you are automatically MOT, regardless of what your father is.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (CMkNk)

120 If the commanding officer of the Blue angels is not smart enough to know what sort of conduct is going to get him in hot water (Tailhook anyone?) then he shouldn't be in that command position.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Ragey. My Friends at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (QCOmY)

Yes HOWEVER, they keep moving the goal posts. Trust me it's becoming more PC every day. And Pilots tend to be more like....well Pilots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:16 AM (t3UFN)

121 #WarOnWomen!!!

We often hear about the gender gap when it comes to how much workers are paid, but research by Junior Achievement USA shows, in a way, that that gap starts much younger.

In their 2014 Teens and Personal Finance Study, they found that boys are more likely to get an allowance than girls, and that's troubling, because an allowance is a powerful tool when it comes to learning about money management.


http://tinyurl.com/WarOnWomenStartsYoung

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 24, 2014 08:16 AM (oGrEy)

122 117 Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Ragey. My Friends at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (QCOmY)

Yup...

it's not like the Blue Angels are a Prestige unit full of high-ARPM types like say the Green Berets or Task Force Delta...

hey since we've gotten rid of all the unapolgetic Hetero males the Elite units are having manning problems...?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:16 AM (TE35l)

123 Oh geez. I just looked down at the clock. Only 7:15.

2.25 hours down. 7.75 more to go.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:17 AM (PYAXX)

124 I'm 57 years old, I've worked all my life. I have always pulled my own weight and supported my family. I am a flawed human and have made mistakes, but I have always been willing to help pull the weight of those who aren't able through no fault of their own. But I have no moral obligation or desire to shoulder the burden of those who willfully refuse to pull their own weight in this world. I reject the false moral imperative and the emotional bullying of the greedy left. Too bad, so sad, cry me a river, but I refuse to let them stake a claim my particular skill set as an entitlement. Fuck 'em.
/rant off

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 24, 2014 08:18 AM (MKpBT)

125 120 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:16 AM (t3UFN)

The goalposts move constantly because the goal is not the goal...the goal is to stomp on someone...

Like I said O-6s held to variable and self-contradictory set of moral values...

Presidents not so much

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:18 AM (TE35l)

126 W and L Regents to the Committee: Well bless your hearts.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 24, 2014 08:19 AM (BAS5M)

127 Yes. If you had a Yiddische mama, then you are automatically MOT, regardless of what your father is.


Crap. Missed it by >< that much. Gram was. Guess who's father was the only male child of 4? This putz.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:19 AM (uVkIH)

128 Shouldn't this be a yellow line?

***

Posted by: Lt. Commander Queeg at April 24, 2014 08:19 AM (Ua6T/)

129 124 Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 24, 2014 08:18 AM (MKpBT)

Seamus no need to apologize...

Basically they are not wanting us reeducated they want us gone.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:19 AM (TE35l)

130 124 Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 24, 2014 08:18 AM (MKpBT)


Planes have been flown into IRS offices for calmer rants than that. Not that I'm suggesting that!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:19 AM (CMkNk)

131 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 24, 2014 08:15 AM (HVff2)

Damned straight.

The Jooos have far too much power in this country, and when they get together with the Freemasons and the Trilateral commission....the end times will have arrived.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 08:19 AM (QFxY5)

132 Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 24, 2014 08:16 AM (oGrEy)





So parents are starting the war on women with their own daughters?

This crap will never ever stop. They just keep looking to divide us, even setting parents against children, and children against parents.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 08:20 AM (oMKp3)

133 127 Crap. Missed it by >
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:19 AM (uVkIH)


I think Alfred Rosenberg would still classify you as fit for the ovens.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:20 AM (CMkNk)

134 131 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 08:19 AM (QFxY5)

They need to gang up to compete with the Shriners...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:20 AM (TE35l)

135 I wonder how the "Idea of Palestine", (without an actual "palestinian" state), has permeated my brain since the Eighties.

Plaestine was never "A Thing".

N.B.C. had me convinced that "It Was A Thing".

I want to blame Bernard Kalb, but I'm just going to push this on John Chancellor.

I ate meatloaf and he lied to me.

*bus explodes, kills twenty*

"Palestinians are still searching for a state tonight"....

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 08:21 AM (lq3Ak)

136 CBD, You left out the Council for Foreign Relations.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 24, 2014 08:22 AM (V70Uh)

137 Got myself bit by a neighborhood dog last night on the arm while jogging.



Wife is in full panic mode.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 07:47 AM (TfdkD)

Maybe it was a coyote? Did you shoot it?

Posted by: Office of the President Elect Perry at April 24, 2014 08:23 AM (LTquJ)

138 Not being up on HM, I looked up HM magazine and discovered that it's a magazine about Christian Metal groups. Some how I don't think this is what you are referring to.
Posted by: Darth Randall at April 24, 2014 07:46 AM (KlVdw)



FHM. FHM magazine. Stupid autocorrect.

For those that don't know, the Harlequin covers are somewhat color coded. The ones with red covers or red banners are the more explicit ones. Some of them verge on out right porn.


Not that I'm offended by either one, needless to say, but I just had it with listening to little miss prissy priss be all offended because oh noes girls in bikinis lying about when she is reading about Captain William Smythe ravaging the innocent and reluctant yet strangely enthralled Miss Primrose Worthington.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 08:24 AM (mf5HN)

139 The Jooos have far too much power in this country, and when they get together with the Freemasons and the Trilateral commission....the end times will have arrived.


Add in the Elk's Club, Lion's Club & Rotaries.....

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:25 AM (uVkIH)

140 So parents are starting the war on women with their own daughters?

In my case, both my sister and I got an allowance every week. I was expected to cut an acre property, rake leaves, pull weeds, take the trash to the curb, shovel snow, and other stuff. My sister did nothing. I became conservative, she became liberal. Coincidence, I'm sure.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 24, 2014 08:25 AM (oGrEy)

141
Carol-
Good luck on your neck injection.
What is it? I wonder if it could help my mom, as her stenosis surgery did not.
Thanks, and happy Thursday.

Posted by: Justamom at April 24, 2014 08:25 AM (Sptt8)

142 We need a petition drive to throw all the various young Democrat groups off college campuses. After all it was the Democrat party that led the southern states out of the Union and kicked off the Civil War.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at April 24, 2014 08:26 AM (289iv)

143 17
In the Navy....

it sorta saddens me the Navy is as prissy PC as the USAF these days.


Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:36 AM (TE35l)

I blame Tailhook. It all started to go downhill from there.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at April 24, 2014 08:26 AM (CCSYQ)

144 140 Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 24, 2014 08:25 AM (oGrEy)

Yeah...fathers are way more demanding of daughters than sons...

**cue eyeroll*

War on Turf

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:26 AM (TE35l)

145 For those that don't know, the Harlequin covers are somewhat color coded. The ones with red covers or red banners are the more explicit ones. Some of them verge on out right porn.

Your experience with such knowledge intrigues me and I wish to set up a BBQ grill outside your window and roast some hot dogs.

Posted by: Not A Stalker at April 24, 2014 08:27 AM (oGrEy)

146 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 08:24 AM (mf5HN)

I am offended that you are not offended by Harlequin's clear subjugation of women under the yoke of a patriarchal, rape-oriented society that brainwashes women.

Posted by: Andrea Dworkin at April 24, 2014 08:28 AM (QFxY5)

147 Next thing you know they'll start making Senior Chiefs clean their coffee cups annually. What's the Navy coming to?

Good morning, and blessings upon all of you fine people.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 24, 2014 08:28 AM (8LYjS)

148 >>>>Add in the Elk's Club<<<<<

I don't know about the rest, but the purpose of the Elk's is to buy booze in bulk.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at April 24, 2014 08:28 AM (289iv)

149 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:10 AM (PYAXX)

Disorderly conduct is becoming the catch all for "I want to charge you with something."

Didn't some document that's over 100 years old cover this shit already?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 08:28 AM (HDwDg)

150 139 Add in the Elk's Club, Lion's Club & Rotaries.....
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:25 AM (uVkIH)


Hadassah, the UJA...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:29 AM (CMkNk)

151 135: "Plaestine was never "A Thing".
Wasn't Palestine a province of Judea until the Roman occupation?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at April 24, 2014 08:29 AM (OJn3e)

152
Why does the first cup of coffee in the morning taste so yummy delicious wonderful? It's like it's got its own planet, that's how amazing it is.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 08:30 AM (oMKp3)

153 151 Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at April 24, 2014 08:29 AM (OJn3e)

that or it was a magical Muslim Kingdom dating back to 3000 BC...

depends on who you ask...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:30 AM (TE35l)

154 But if he was a fag doing a drag show, he'd have received a promotion.


This is not a joke. This is the "state" of our military. Thanks a lot gheys.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 24, 2014 08:31 AM (6HrmZ)

155 Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 08:20 AM (oMKp3)

In lots of families I knew they guys got an allowance and the girls just got whatever they asked for.

Such is life and the ability to say "Daddy please!" and such.

I fail to see how this is a MORAL CRISIS!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 08:31 AM (HDwDg)

156 Carol: Re: your neck issue.

Have you looked into Spinal Decompression? I don't have any kind of chronic neck/back pain, but I'm told it's miracle cure for some people.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:31 AM (PYAXX)

157 Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at April 24, 2014 08:29 AM (OJn3e)

My mother was born in Palestine.

But in 1947 it changed its name to Israel.

That's the only non-fictional Palestine I know.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 08:32 AM (QFxY5)

158 BREAKING SCANDAL: The Secret Waiting List. . . 40 Vets died while on this list

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2014/04/breaking-40-deaths-result-from-va.html

Posted by: Steve at April 24, 2014 08:34 AM (wk+th)

159 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 08:32 AM (QFxY5)



Interesting. How did you come to live in America, if you don't mind my asking? ( If you do mind, you can just pretend I was never here. )

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 08:34 AM (oMKp3)

160 "Plaestine was never "A Thing".
Wasn't Palestine a province of Judea until the Roman occupation?


Ok. For the OCD crowd: Palestine hasn't been a thing for 2,000 years.

For those truly having OCD:
For the CDO crowd......

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:34 AM (uVkIH)

161 ((Fans some warm Oklahoma Spring air up Carol's direction.))

Folks, if you're waiting for better times before moving to freer states... don't hold your breath.

_____

The browser decided to close, randomly, which meant I had to go feed pesks and such. Back now. Hope y'all waited for me...

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Posted by: mindful webworker, morning chores completed at April 24, 2014 08:35 AM (P1Tw6)

162 the land failed...

WHEN THE ARABS DID NOT ABIDE BY IT AND DECLARED WAR ON ISRAEL AND THEN GOT THEIR ASSES KICKED AGAIN AND AGAIN THEREBY LEADING TO THE CURRENT HYPERVENTILATING ABOUT INJUSTICE. AND OH, DID WE MENTION THAT GAZA AND THE WEST BACK WERE UNDER EGYPTIAN AND SYRIAN CONTROL FOR TWO DECADES AND THEY DIDN'T OFFER A STATE TO THE UNSTATED ARABS? NO, THERE IS NO HISTORICAL BASIS FOR REFERRING TO A PALESTINIAN "PEOPLE."


That is because the Muslim and Palestinian people were too busy inventing math.

Posted by: NASA at April 24, 2014 08:35 AM (OWjjx)

163 158 Posted by: Steve at April 24, 2014 08:34 AM (wk+th)

Wanna know why:

1) the Feds bought a shitload of hollowpoints

2) you can't just walk in to your Tricare reps office anymore

3) Donkey is being REAL careful to slowcrawl in the full force of GigglesCare?

That's why....

I said it over and over and over again...

Federal ran lock stock and bore medical is in 4 main areas

1) military

2) reservations

3) VA

4) prisons

I know the shit coming by the stink in my nose

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:36 AM (TE35l)

164 I'm old enough to remember when we were assured Jeb Bush wouldn't run by the 'realists.'

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 08:37 AM (F85AX)

165 Bradley is now officially Chelsea.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 08:37 AM (fWAjv)

166 It's not just the Navy, though the Blue Angels thing is sickening enough, but all branches that are taking this shit lying down.

Where is the open revolt of the officers, and ESPECIALLY those that have already been "retired"?

If they have been threatened with withheld retirement benefits, that's a scandal that is best confronted with a group of experienced battle hardened career officers organizing a public demonstration and airing of grievances.

Are they really that intimidated by this light weight marxist asswipe?

Posted by: ontherocks at April 24, 2014 08:38 AM (WPdtT)

167 164 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 08:37 AM (F85AX)

I promise not to Jeb Bush in your mouth....

//Poppin' Fresh

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:38 AM (TE35l)

168 165 Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 08:37 AM (fWAjv)

Chelsea...Manning....

breanna lately


Chelsea Bay-bee

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:39 AM (TE35l)

169 162 That is because the Muslim and Palestinian people were too busy inventing math.
Posted by: NASA at April 24, 2014 08:35 AM (OWjjx)


Please. The Muslims did not invent math. But they did invent common core.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:39 AM (CMkNk)

170 Hey, hey, hey, what the fuck is going on.

Posted by: The most non-Blonde of the 4 Non Blondes at April 24, 2014 08:39 AM (3oRDB)

171 Ok. For the OCD crowd: Palestine hasn't been a thing for 2,000 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:34 AM (uVkIH)

HA! So you admit that it was originally theirs!

-Typical Anti-Israeli douche

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 08:40 AM (fWAjv)

172
G-d forbid Chelsea Clinton married Eli Manning…


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:40 AM (CMkNk)

173 ISIS Says It Has Established A Base In Gaza To Train Jihadis For War In Syria And Iraq…



Hamas approved?


Weasel Zippers:

So Hamas approved.
Hamas and Fatah, the PA, about to become part of the palestinian authority.
The palestinian authority funded by the USA

Outstanding?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:40 AM (t3UFN)

174 Ok. For the OCD crowd: Palestine hasn't been a thing for 2,000 years.

For those truly having OCD:
For the CDO crowd......
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:34 AM (uVkIH)


What about the CBD crowd?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:40 AM (PYAXX)

175 172 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:40 AM (CMkNk)

God was not kind...

to either one of them

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:41 AM (TE35l)

176 Sort of stating the obvious, but...

https://tinyurl.com/le9j9tt

Abu Mazen doesn't want a Pali state next to Israel.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 08:41 AM (BZAd3)

177 173 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:40 AM (t3UFN)

Obama works for the other team and by extension so does the US military and State Department

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:41 AM (TE35l)

178 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:40 AM (t3UFN)

The US does not negotiate with Terrorists!
We just fund them.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:41 AM (PYAXX)

179 Isn't there a radio station in Atlanta or nearby with the call letters WPLO?

Sheesh, they must get a lot of grief. Or praise depending if it's Friday or Saturday.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:41 AM (CMkNk)

180 Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:41 AM (TE35l)

They're all gay now?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:42 AM (PYAXX)

181 "For those that don't know, the Harlequin covers are somewhat color coded. The ones with red covers or red banners are the more explicit ones. Some of them verge on out right porn..."
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 08:24 AM (mf5HN)

I wondered what the hell you were talking about, earlier. I think we all "gathered" that the Red Cover was "something", however.

I'll not apologize, My Queen. I'll merely be more diligent, should I find another awkward post.

Should the Queen have no clothes?

-One Must See Her Naked And Report This To The Nearest HQ Available Because Naked Queen!

*HAH!*

Gee Whiz! That went Off The Rails!

*HAH!*


...I was "giddy", My Queen. Forgive me my transgressions.

Ma'am? If you were to Play Grab-Ass in the Ready-Room?

--I'm just asking, Ma'am.

Who do you want in your "Ready Room"-?

#Dudes

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 08:42 AM (lq3Ak)

182 Maybe it was a coyote? Did you shoot it?


Posted by: Office of the President Elect Perry at April 24, 2014 08:23 AM (LTquJ)

---

Damn, now I feel like less of a man. There were three things I wanted to do, wash the wound, stop the bleeding and....and....

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 08:42 AM (TfdkD)

183 I’ve got to get ready to go to work. I will check to see what’s going on when I have lunch from iPhone.

I hope everyone has a nice day.

TWC app says it’s 42 degrees here but feels like 32! Spring has not sprung in Boston area.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 08:43 AM (gjOCp)

184
151 135: "Plaestine was never "A Thing". Wasn't Palestine a province of Judea until the Roman occupation?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at April 24, 2014 08:29 AM (OJn3e)


Play the original Rome Total War and its Barbarian Invasion Expansion. The original takes place in the B.C. time period, and the game refers to the region as Judea. In the Barbarian Expansion which takes place after the Empire splits into East and West, the region is Palestine, since this was after the Jews really pissed off the Emperor and he decided to take away their homeland.

When a video game can be more historically accurate than a bunch of our "betters" it should tell you something.

Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 08:43 AM (LI48c)

185 And more news on higher education. Rutgers professor has sex with man with cerebral palsy with the mental capacity of an 18th month old-says they're in love:

http://tinyurl.com/kk97yqf

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 08:43 AM (XyM/Y)

186 Obama works for the other team

This has multiple meanings.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 08:43 AM (F85AX)

187
"Woke up and I was Chelsea Manning and the first thing that I knew…"


--Reimagined Joni Mitchell

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:43 AM (CMkNk)

188 Chelsea Bay-bee

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:39 AM (TE35l)

The soldier says she has requested that the military provide her with “a treatment plan consistent with the recognized professional standards of care” for transgender individuals. Such plans can range from hormone therapy to sex-change operations.


Oh happy days! I think prisoners who want a sex change should be given the care by Andre Johnson.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 08:44 AM (fWAjv)

189 "Damn, now I feel like less of a man. There were three things I wanted to do, wash the wound, stop the bleeding and....and...."
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2014 08:42 AM (TfdkD)

...bone your Niece?

Pervert

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 08:44 AM (lq3Ak)

190 184 When a video game can be more historically accurate than a bunch of our "betters" it should tell you something.
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 08:43 AM (LI48c)


IIRC, the Philistines were imported by the Romans into the region to displace the Jews.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:45 AM (CMkNk)

191 Rutgers professor has sex with man with cerebral palsy with the mental capacity of an 18th month old-says they're in love:


Sounds about right. Modern higher edufuckation.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2014 08:45 AM (3oRDB)

192 188 Oh happy days! I think prisoners who want a sex change should be given the care by Andre Johnson.
Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 08:44 AM (fWAjv)


Kermit Gosnell or Lorena Bobbitt…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:45 AM (CMkNk)

193 Rutgers professor has sex with man with cerebral palsy with the mental capacity of an 18th month old-says they're in love:


Nobody ever died for dear old Rutgers, but apparently they do get rape for her

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:47 AM (t3UFN)

194 What makes it even worse was that he was her subject in a communication facilitation technique.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 08:47 AM (XyM/Y)

195
Okay kiddies. Got to finish an assignment.

Check back in around dump time.

Zei mir mit mazel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:47 AM (CMkNk)

196 188: "The soldier says she has requested that the military provide her with “a treatment plan consistent with the recognized professional standards of care” for transgender individuals. Such plans can range from hormone therapy to sex-change operations"
Wonder if Gosnell can do the surgery? That way Manning gets his treatment in prison, and Gosnell gets his work program.

Win win.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at April 24, 2014 08:48 AM (f6ZLT)

197 The soldier says she has requested that the military provide her with “a treatment plan consistent with the recognized professional standards of care� for transgender individuals. Such plans can range from hormone therapy to sex-change operations.

Oh happy days! I think prisoners who want a sex change should be given the care by Andre Johnson



Rusty straight razor & half empty pint of Val-U-Rite.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 08:48 AM (uVkIH)

198 Dammit, I ranted that the West Bank was under Syrian control--I meant Jordanian.

Please forgive me. The rewrites of history that go on about the Mideast are inexcusable--especially the 1948 to 1967 time period.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2014 08:48 AM (659DL)

199
What about grabass in the War Room?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 24, 2014 08:50 AM (HsTG8)

200 Carol: Re: your neck issue.

Have you looked into Spinal Decompression? I don't have any kind of chronic neck/back pain, but I'm told it's miracle cure for some people.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 08:31 AM (PYAXX)

Allen G.

After 5 1/2 years w/o a neck doctor, I went to Newton Wellesley spine clinic. Doctor looked at MRI and said he could inject my neck from C? and help. He did that in pain clinic & it helped my neck. He does two shots in same spot two weeks apart. Once initial extra pain wore off I realized that I could stop telling time from last time I took painkiller. I told him that my shoulder hurt. he picked up arm and moved it & said there is nothing physically wrong with it. Pain is from my neck. He looked at MRI while we were in room doing second injection & he said he could inject me on left side in C?

I’m not sure of which discs he injected but the neck injection wore off in 9 months but the one for shoulder & arm lasted almost three years.

Thank you. He’s doctor that specializes in neck and back pain. I like him. He’s good.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 08:50 AM (gjOCp)

201 I was told that there were "Palestinians".

Between meatloaf and bullshit, I had "been had".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 08:51 AM (lq3Ak)

202 Kermit Gosnell or Lorena Bobbitt…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:45 AM (CMkNk)


Feeding the ducks

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 08:51 AM (fWAjv)

203 186 Obama works for the other team

--------

This has multiple meanings.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 08:43 AM (F85AX)


Team Nuance

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 24, 2014 08:51 AM (J/Zse)

204 Police Capt. Ben Bliven tells WAOW-TV a number of people were frightened by the plastic Nerf guns, so officers had to respond appropriately.

We have become a nation of complete pussies.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 08:51 AM (DrWcr)

205 I'm 57 years old, I've worked all my life. I have always pulled my own weight and supported my family. I am a flawed human and have made mistakes, but I have always been willing to help pull the weight of those who aren't able through no fault of their own. But I have no moral obligation or desire to shoulder the burden of those who willfully refuse to pull their own weight in this world. I reject the false moral imperative and the emotional bullying of the greedy left. Too bad, so sad, cry me a river, but I refuse to let them stake a claim my particular skill set as an entitlement. Fuck 'em.
/rant off
Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 24, 2014 08:18 AM (MKpBT)


*shoves blondies with whipped cream through the USB port for you*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 08:52 AM (mf5HN)

206 The future of America's military ...

http://youtu.be/E2ecasPqhgk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 08:53 AM (a26oX)

207 It's only cheating if you get caught.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 24, 2014 08:54 AM (Dwehj)

208 Are the RINOs gonna STFU about amnesty before they squander every fucking advantage they have before November? I've never seen such a gaggle of braindead cocksuckers determined to piss off the base by paying more fucking attention to non citizens than the people who elected them to represent them.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 08:54 AM (m4SHR)

209 206 The future of America's military ...

http://youtu.be/E2ecasPqhgk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 08:53 AM

Theal Team Theven

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 08:55 AM (fWAjv)

210 What about grabass in the War Room?


Gentlemen, this is the War Room. That is inappropriate behavior.

Posted by: President Muffley at April 24, 2014 08:56 AM (3oRDB)

211 208 Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 08:54 AM (m4SHR)


Does Juan McQueeg have a Tedster Kennedy Blow-Up Doll my friend?

Yes they can!

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 08:56 AM (TE35l)

212 185 And more news on higher education. Rutgers professor has sex with man with cerebral palsy with the mental capacity of an 18th month old-says they're in love: http://tinyurl.com/kk97yqf
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 08:43 AM (XyM/Y)

A sociopath in academia? No way!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 08:56 AM (DrWcr)

213 Looks like a 6+ on the Beaufort scale out there.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2014 08:56 AM (Ua6T/)

214 Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2014 08:56 AM (Ua6T/)

I'm in the calm before the predicted storm here.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 08:58 AM (HDwDg)

215 206 The future of America's military ...http://youtu.be/E2ecasPqhgk
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 08:53 AM (a26oX)

They've got the mincing down pat. I would expect far more faaaaabulous uniforms, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 08:58 AM (DrWcr)

216 Mark Levin: Jeb Bush is hanging around like a bad inner thigh rash.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 08:58 AM (m4SHR)

217 Glad I'm retired. I weep for my Navy.

Posted by: Butch at April 24, 2014 07:35 AM (m12IB)


You and me both shipmate. I knew CDR McWherter, not well but I did know him. He was in my sister squadron.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 08:58 AM (yh0zB)

218 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 08:56 AM (DrWcr)

We're not all crazy (but the sane ones are a minority.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 08:59 AM (HDwDg)

219 In the Navy!

Posted by: Ready for Hillary!!11!! at April 24, 2014 09:00 AM (Dwehj)

220 Are the RINOs gonna STFU about amnesty before they squander every fucking advantage they have before November? I've never seen such a gaggle of braindead cocksuckers determined to piss off the base by paying more fucking attention to non citizens than the people who elected them to represent them.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 08:54 AM (m4SHR)

Captain Hate,
Wouldn’t you just like to slap them? Slap them until they have some sense!

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:02 AM (gjOCp)

221 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 08:56 AM (DrWcr)


Wait, I read the article, she's one of those "Facilitated communication" people.

Yeah, generally they're nuts.
Self-delusion is necessary to continue in that field.

(IIRC almost all of that work has been shown to be bunk, mostly related to various forms of confirmation bias.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 09:02 AM (HDwDg)

222 Before long, the military, if pols have their way, will be just an extension of the Peace Corps and another left wing voting block.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 09:04 AM (BZAd3)

223 Captain Hate,

Wouldn’t you just like to slap them? Slap them until they have some sense!

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:02 AM (gjOCp)


Public flogging and hanging are preferable.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 09:04 AM (m4SHR)

224 "Facilitated communication"? Clever Hans is not for horses with them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:04 AM (a26oX)

225 Alex the Chick,

I wish you could send me some breakfast food! I almost went to grocery store yesterday but instead went out in my garden in gardening clothes. I didn’t last very long & came in because it was too cold out. I won’t be seen except in garden with them on because they have holes & are permanently filthy. Some are obvious garden clothes, but then I noticed quite a few pairs of underwear have holes in them from rose thorns. I put a G with a permanent marker on the ones that have the most holes.

It was only in the 40’s out. I didn’t feel like chaining a third time for the day, so I just took gardening clothes off & threw in wash & put on warm clothes.

I’ll buy something today for tomorrow & Saturday morning. I won’t be going to work tomorrow.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:07 AM (gjOCp)

226 http://tinyurl.com/los75cy

Registration is open at Tepid folks...

Let's Bake Poppin' Fresh

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:07 AM (TE35l)

227 Bradley is now officially Chelsea.
=======
Omar Bradley is a CHICK???

Posted by: --- at April 24, 2014 09:08 AM (MMC8r)

228 Some garden cuteness for the morning
http://tinyurl.com/nyz7dbp

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:08 AM (a26oX)

229 Growing up I used to play War all the time with my friends, including using the Jap Rifle my Dad brought back from Iwo Jima and the gutted out old hand grenade he had. He would not let me play with the Samurai swords.

I would have been arrested every day if that was now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:08 AM (t3UFN)

230 Sven, I’ll read occasionally at Hot Gas but never post. Some of those people are vicious. They were all Palinistas in 2011 & 2012. Some were lovers of Palin & others haters.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:09 AM (gjOCp)

231
Question:

Is it really called the "Guns Everywhere" law in Georgia?

The TV just told me so, so it must be true.

Posted by: Soothie § at April 24, 2014 09:09 AM (aqrfx)

232 "Are the RINOs gonna STFU about amnesty before they squander every fucking advantage they have before November?"
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 24, 2014 08:54 AM (m4SHR)

You'd better make more phone-calls, lest you "get used to this."

Ohio is "Up For Grabs" every few years, but ask Sven how "represented" we are.

Our "Republican" Governor, (who used to fill-in for Bill "The Folks/loofa", O'Reilly), requested Federal Medicare/Obamacare funds for the next three years.

My local House representative only "votes with me" 60% of the time.

Our Dog Catcher is "cool", but the Librarian is easy/infected, wrong, glasses, tainted.

Small-Town problems.

-Our budget is balanced.

*Slainte!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 09:10 AM (lq3Ak)

233 230 Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:09 AM (gjOCp)

I'd register "just in case" I still have my Harkelwkin 15 nick there...

Poppin'Fresh killed Sven10077 there...

Patricia Ewing was a bridge too far...

offering to hatefuck Palin is not.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:10 AM (TE35l)

234 *shoves bagel with cream cheese and some nice hot tea through the USB port for Carol*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 09:10 AM (mf5HN)

235 I'm back, wooden teeth and all.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:10 AM (T2V/1)

236 Registration is open at Tepid folks...

Let's Bake Poppin' Fresh



Twice in a week? I guess when you swing the banhammer willy nilly, you realize you need fresh meat more often.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:11 AM (uVkIH)

237 Just in time for the dump

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:11 AM (T2V/1)

238
I know the Arizona bill was called the "Anti-Gay" bill; the TV told me so.

Posted by: Soothie § at April 24, 2014 09:11 AM (aqrfx)

239 232 Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 09:10 AM (lq3Ak)

Yup...

Ohio's being ran GOP and Donkey by Cleveland...

despite its mortal wounds...

every Ohio metro but CBus(tax money)_ and Cincy is a basket case...

but "frack fracking"


Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:11 AM (TE35l)

240 Sven,
I never read the comments after a few times. I am registered there & have PW & user ID saved but don’t bother.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:12 AM (gjOCp)

241 Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 08:34 AM (oMKp3)

My dad is American (of course, so is my mother now).

I grew up in the exotic locale of Westchester County NY.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 09:12 AM (QFxY5)

242 I'm back, wooden teeth and all.
Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:10 AM (T2V/1)

I got a special this week on brand new shiny wood teeth. And I throw in the RainGuard for free

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:12 AM (t3UFN)

243 Thanks Alex!

Now i’m really going to get ready for work.

Have a good day. I’m glad I didn’t put my winter sweaters away.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:13 AM (gjOCp)

244 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 09:04 AM (a26oX)


The article RSM links to said the family tried to sue Rutgers as well but didn't have more than speculation.

But that speculation does make a bit of sense.
Rutgers takes NIH money.
NIH money requires that the university sign a "Federal Wide Assurance" that all research (not just NIH research) be conducted according to NIH rules (or stricter rules, or occasionally the rules of another government agency. Point is a set of rules.)

It's arguable this is research or at least that it's intent is research (as opposed to pure treatment which is later turned into a case study.) Partially because the professor doesn't appear to have a degree that would qualify her to treat anything.

I'm willing to bet good money she never got approval for it from the IRB. (a requirement.)

Rutgers was aware of it (they paid to send her with the subject to a conference.)

If Rutgers got busted doing research outside of the regulations the punishment could range from "don't do that again" to "Let's take a few months freezing your NIH grants while we figure this out."

The latter is certainly recoverable (ask Duke! And John Hopkins!) but quite painful.

Again, just speculation, but speculation that could be shown to be true if you asked the right things in discovery.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 09:13 AM (HDwDg)

245 The future of the U.S. military ?
Look to the Belgian model .
They can't mobilize a full up rifle platoon more than 50 miles from their barracks .

Well, to put a twist on the old kings saying . When the revolution comes , they won't be ready .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 24, 2014 09:14 AM (whqez)

246 Vic,
i thought you had oncologist appointment but I saw that it was dentist & oncologist is on May 2.

Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:14 AM (gjOCp)

247 230 Sven, I’ll read occasionally at Hot Gas but never post. Some of those people are vicious. They were all Palinistas in 2011 & 2012. Some were lovers of Palin & others haters.


The comment section there is usually a few lefty trolls successfully trolling the others.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 09:14 AM (le5Zp)

248 Vic welcome back....

I told them you were classy enough for Ivory caps...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 09:15 AM (TE35l)

249 Facilitated communication" people.

Is that something like "people whisperers"?

Posted by: mindful webworker - Click here for yout UniParty 2016 posters at April 24, 2014 09:15 AM (ELs9k)

250 Next thing you'll tell me is that Navy sailors curse a lot!

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2014 09:15 AM (zqvg6)

251 Vic welcome back....

I told them you were classy old enough for Ivory caps...



Accuracy & all.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:17 AM (uVkIH)

252 In the future military, instead of spending time on the range or on maneuvers, they will be in sexual harrassment and tolerance classes with the odd "Seven Healthy Habits" class thrown in for good measure. Of course, Community Organizing For The Complete Idiot will be required prior to separation.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 24, 2014 09:17 AM (BZAd3)

253 Yes HOWEVER, they keep moving the goal posts. Trust
me it's becoming more PC every day. And Pilots tend to be more
like....well Pilots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 08:16 AM (t3UFN)



First female pilot in the squadron, they were trying to come up with a call sign for her that wouldn't be...suggestive. She said "Imma kick the ass of the first one of you clowns to call me Sugar Tits" and one of the JO's said "No problem ST" so from there on...she was Este.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 09:17 AM (yh0zB)

254 Next thing you'll tell me is that Navy sailors curse a lot!



Not anymore! Against the regs.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:18 AM (uVkIH)

255 Dump up!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 09:20 AM (uVkIH)

256 252 In the future military, instead of spending time on the range or on maneuvers, they will be in sexual harrassment and tolerance classes with the odd "Seven Healthy Habits" class thrown in for good measure. Of course, Community Organizing For The Complete Idiot will be required prior to separation.


The upside to a weak military and bankrupt country is that it makes secession less likely to be a violent conflict.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 09:20 AM (le5Zp)

257 Wait, I read the article, she's one of those "Facilitated communication" people. Yeah, generally they're nuts. Self-delusion is necessary to continue in that field. (IIRC almost all of that work has been shown to be bunk, mostly related to various forms of confirmation bias.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 09:02 AM (HDwDg)

If I'm not mistaken, there was a Law and Order episode that took a dim view of "facilitated communication." Not that it's authoritative or anything, it's just interested how it was portrayed in popular culture.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 09:20 AM (DrWcr)

258 Growing up I used to play War all the time with my
friends, including using the Jap Rifle my Dad brought back from Iwo Jima
and the gutted out old hand grenade he had.


Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2014 09:08 AM (t3UFN)


I have ammo for that rifle if it was a T38. Where is it now?

Next thing you'll tell me is that Navy sailors curse a lot!

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2014 09:15 AM (zqvg6)


Don't fuckin' believe a bit of that bullshit, some Army cocksucker probably made that shit up (with due apologies to all honest cocksuckers).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 09:24 AM (yh0zB)

259 Not that I'm offended by either one, needless to say, but I just had it with listening to little miss prissy priss be all offended because oh noes girls in bikinis lying about when she is reading about Captain William Smythe ravaging the innocent and reluctant yet strangely enthralled Miss Primrose Worthington.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 24, 2014 08:24 AM (mf5HN)

[snorting audibly] And Her Imperial Malevolence brings the early morning funny. My Dad said that I should apply my [modest] skills as a writer to churning out romances because (A) a competent writer can write anything and (2) it's formulaic. I considered this but then realized that I would have to read them to write them and I just can't set my testicles aside long enough to do that.

Posted by: joncelli at April 24, 2014 09:25 AM (RD7QR)

260 If that is going to be typical of their "explanations", VOX should seriously consider changing its name to something like "POX", to work in the propaganda angle.

Or they could just go with "RUG".

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 24, 2014 09:25 AM (+DzUM)

261 Wanna know who cusses worse than Sailors?

Actors and Actresses.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 24, 2014 09:26 AM (V70Uh)

262 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 09:20 AM (DrWcr)

I am to understand it's inspired by a few real court cases where stuff turned out to be basically made up.

Do you occasionally get a few "Helen Keller" Moments, where you have someone who just needs a nudge towards communication?
Sure.
This is probably more true in autism, which is something we still don't have a lot of understanding about with regards to development and such.

But the FC advocates want to claim it's great everywhere! And it always works!

No.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 24, 2014 09:30 AM (HDwDg)

263 IIRC, the Philistines were imported by the Romans into the region to displace the Jews.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 08:45 AM (CMkNk)

No. The Phillistines were propbably a part of the "people of the sea" that rampaged around the eastern Med right after the time of the Trojan wars, and probably were part of the Greek groups that were involved. This was a Volkwanderung at the end of the Bronze age and far before the Romans had developed.
Basically the Phillistines had conquered a chunk of the Canaanite bronze age civilizations and settled down. (other groups had conquered Libya, Sicily and attacked Egypt at that time and had varying success) They are shown in images from Egypt to be dressed and armored like the Mycenaean age warriors. Even at the time the Hebrew state was at best embryonic, and there is argument about whether the Hebrews were there at the time, or were filtering down as settling pastoralists into the vacuum caused by the collapse of the Canaanite civilization.
An interesting book on the subject, and quite readable, is Egypt, Canaan, and Israel in Ancient Times by Donald Redford. Worth a read.

Posted by: Pajama Boy's non-cis-normative sibling. at April 24, 2014 09:30 AM (z7ZM2)

264 246
Vic,

i thought you had oncologist appointment but I saw that it was dentist oncologist is on May 2.





Posted by: Carol at April 24, 2014 09:14 AM (gjOCp)

I called and had it moved. I don't like 2 appointments in one day. And with this doc I especially don't like afternoon appointments.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 09:42 AM (T2V/1)

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Because I'm kinda tired and sick tonight. And because sometimes words suck.

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Comments

1 First!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 23, 2014 09:52 PM (W7zKe)

2 Third!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 23, 2014 09:52 PM (QFxY5)

3 Did the world end and I missed It?

Posted by: CMU VET at April 23, 2014 09:54 PM (ejB0r)

4 Seventh?

Posted by: derangeddm at April 23, 2014 09:55 PM (QmQVg)

5
Gaaack Shrillary, what did YOU morons to to deserve that

Posted by: The Jackhole of Alan Parsons pissed off project at April 23, 2014 09:55 PM (uOV6o)

6 *peers at pictures*

This means something...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 23, 2014 09:55 PM (oFCZn)

7 Fifth.

That's what I'm drinking.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at April 23, 2014 09:55 PM (oWhIO)

8 Feel better, soon, Maet!



'Lo, 'rons.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 09:56 PM (T1005)

9 NINE!

...or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 09:56 PM (lq3Ak)

10 g'evenin, 'rons`

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2014 09:56 PM (KCxzN)

11 "Latest Trends in Motorboating"?

Hope the pics with that were good...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 23, 2014 09:56 PM (m9V0o)

12 Fifth.


That's what I'm drinking.Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at April 23, 2014 09:55 PM (oWhIO)

It's what's for dinner.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 23, 2014 09:56 PM (I9I9J)

13 As someone who's neither Catholic nor divorced, this whole "giving Communion to divorcees" thing is bothering me more than it should.

Posted by: Lauren at April 23, 2014 09:57 PM (hFL/3)

14 I'd have been first , but I read all the links .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 23, 2014 09:57 PM (XWw96)

15
Why were we not told of this nood until now?

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 09:58 PM (SlZiq)

16 -"Fifth.
That's what I'm drinking.
"
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit

-"It's what's for dinner."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 23, 2014 09:56 PM (I9I9J)

The other White Liquor.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 09:58 PM (lq3Ak)

17
Never hold out on the Horde. Never.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 09:58 PM (SlZiq)

18 That's like, what, 13,000 words?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 09:58 PM (0HooB)

19 Click the pic ........morons , and 'ettes .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 23, 2014 09:59 PM (XWw96)

20 Let's see: 19 pictures times one thousand words.....

19 carry the zero 3x. Wow Meat, nearly a 20,000 word essay.

Good work

Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2014 09:59 PM (9Zci/)

21 Sadly ... I think the blonde chic with big hair is Irish


I'm not really even all that Irish. I just feel left out of the Blank-American game. And I drink alot. So I just grabbed the first ethnicity that came along.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2014 10:00 PM (v3BJ5)

22 That marijuana fudge looks yummy.

But it'd probably put me in a coma.

Hope you feel better soon, Mćtenloch!
I actually like these picture-collage-clinky threads, a lot...and I bet they took some work to create them...so don't apologize for them.

Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2014 10:00 PM (la7X9)

23 Hillary! looks perturbed about something.

Posted by: davidt at April 23, 2014 10:00 PM (PAplM)

24 In the churches I have been attending it has always been an open table. This makes sense to me.

If the Catholic Church is not offering Communion to sinners, then no one is partaking.

Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2014 10:00 PM (BG5jZ)

25 22...'clicky' not clinky

Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2014 10:01 PM (la7X9)

26 Is it too early to unburden myself of some sorrow here?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:02 PM (l3vZN)

27 Future of Obamacare
Secret waiting lists to hide the true scope of the disaster

NewsTalk 550 KFYI ‏@KFYI
Vets Die While On Secret Wait List At The Phoenix VA? @BroomheadShow: 'CNN exclusively interviewed a former Do... http://bit.ly/1jDGe41

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 23, 2014 10:02 PM (ZPrif)

28 Last night Chelsea, tonight Hillary. Damn, I'm gonna run out of tequila and have to go to drinking vodka.

Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 23, 2014 10:02 PM (vA2UI)

29 Jinx, have at it. Hopefully you won't be hit by misfired snark.

Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2014 10:03 PM (BG5jZ)

30 "Is it too early to unburden myself of some sorrow here?"
Posted by: Jinx the Cat

Please... fire away, Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 10:03 PM (lq3Ak)

31 Yeah, let's hear it for sick and tired. Jinx, tell us . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)

32 @26: In many ways The Horde is a Brothers and Sisters keeper. Unburden when ready.

Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2014 10:04 PM (9Zci/)

33
If y'all will indulge me, can I toot my own horn, for a second?

Remember a couple of weeks ago I was raving about Whole Foods (from now on will be referred to as A-Hole Foods)? Well, I went back and this time it was busy; full of freaks, geeks, homos, and stuck up witches who think they're cute in their little yoga pants because they're not fat in their 40's.

But anyway, so I go in there and I'm the only in the store who actually looks like he goes to a gym. And the others have their carts full of all this healthy organic cruelty-free crap, and here I am walking out of the store with...

corn bread.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:04 PM (SlZiq)

34 I think I will go to my "go to" drink - Walmart Oak Leaf Merlot and Sierra Mist. It's cheap, sweet, and can get you drunk.

Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2014 10:05 PM (BG5jZ)

35 Go for it, Jinx.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 10:05 PM (0HooB)

36 Let 'er rip, Jinx. It's good to unload with strangers, and ya don' get much stranger than the horde...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 23, 2014 10:05 PM (m9V0o)

37 First!!!!

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 10:06 PM (doBIb)

38
We're gonna find that f*cking plane if it's the last thing we ever do!

Posted by: This is CNN at April 23, 2014 10:06 PM (SAaEI)

39 Nice collection of Doom, Gloom and Epic Fails.

Posted by: Drill_Thawl at April 23, 2014 10:06 PM (H84UO)

40 I got a better job! Yay Me! No more working for the current incompetent boss! It's a nice promotion, complete with pay raise.
I turned in my 2 weeks notice today.
Even better, I go on a pre-planned already leave approved vacation next week. They can get a head start on missing me.

Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2014 10:06 PM (btTLZ)

41 Everything's Bigger in Texas ONT Compliance Pic

http://tinyurl.com/m6qk43h

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:06 PM (aTXUx)

42 In the churches I have been attending it has always been an open table. This makes sense to me.


In my church we ask that you be a member of a bible-believing church (I.e., have publically confessed your faith), not be excommunicate, and not secretly living unrepentantly in sin. In other words, the Lord's supper is intended for sinners, but please take the warning about eating and drinking judgment upon yourself seriously.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 23, 2014 10:07 PM (kN6FA)

43 1. That's a really cute elefunk that Camilla is fondling.

2. Chelsea Clinton was an ass to tell her mama to grow her hair out. Hillary was an even bigger ass for taking beauty tips from her daughter.

3. Lupita Nyong'o is really, really pretty. She seems like a gracious, decent sort too --- for an actress, anyway.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 23, 2014 10:07 PM (dfYL9)

44 27 flatbush joe,

The secret lists are b/c they are terrified they'll need the 7 billion rounds...

Tricare Prime doesn't allow walk-in consultations anymore.

I am ready to let IPAB play God as soon as their data is as secure as Joe the Plumber's

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 10:07 PM (TE35l)

45 I wish I'd kept my dads old Popular Science and Popular Mechanics magazines.

Worth money now I'd bet.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 10:08 PM (JS0vr)

46 The botox factory will be working overtime for Hillary's campaign.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 23, 2014 10:09 PM (HxSXm)

47 Lupita Nyong'o is really, really pretty. She seems like a gracious, decent sort too --- for an actress, anyway.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 23, 2014 10:07 PM (dfYL9)

Highly educated and extremely well-spoken, too. She's a winner!

Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2014 10:09 PM (8lmkt)

48 This happened yesterday, but has been with me all day. Young man, due to graduate, commission as an officer in the USMC and to marry took his own life. He was a mentor to my young son at school.

Breaks my heart, and I didn't even know him directly.

I don't know if you can watch this link, but these are his fellows last night.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=627634060650059

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:09 PM (l3vZN)

49 Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:04 PM (SlZiq)

I remember going into some Natural Foods store in my neighborhood in LA when the Albertson's was closed

Healthy? The other patrons looked like they'd just been liberated from Auschwitz

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:09 PM (aTXUx)

50 Ooooh. The Hillary is smiling. How she lights up a room. An inspiration to us all.
I remember how I thrilled in the campaign when she came out and started shrieking "VAE VICTIS!" I was so proud that The Hillary would take such a phrase and make it hers, let fools use "top 40", the classics are what makes for Procrustian policy. I feel, so, delighted. Join me...we can end it together. Please.

Posted by: Pajama Boy's non-cis-normative sibling. at April 23, 2014 10:10 PM (z7ZM2)

51 24 In the churches I have been attending it has always been an open table. This makes sense to me.

If the Catholic Church is not offering Communion to sinners, then no one is partaking.

You owe it to yourself to find out what the Catholic Church teaches and believes about receiving Holy Eucharist.

Look it up for free starting around paragraph 1331 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Posted by: DM at April 23, 2014 10:10 PM (Ztudx)

52 I think that Avril Lavigne chic might be Irish ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2014 10:10 PM (v3BJ5)

53 Gooooaaaaallllll!!!

Bluejackets

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (HxSXm)

54 because they're not fat in their 40's

That's hawt.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (L02KD)

55 officer in the USMC and to marry took his own life. He was a mentor to my young son at school.

ah, Jinx, that breaks my heart, too. i'm so sorry. how is your son doing?

Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (8lmkt)

56 Should have posted this:

http://tinyurl.com/k9eoyak

Posted by: gm at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (K0tm3)

57 kbdabear's PSA to get you into a healthy lifestyle

http://tinyurl.com/ltsqafy

You're welcome

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (aTXUx)

58
Cankles looks like she's been beaten regularly with an ugly stick lately.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (YbCsp)

59 Evening morons. No work tonight!!

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (R+XDI)

60 "The Week In Pictures."

Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2014 10:12 PM (sdi6R)

61 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 23, 2014 10:09 PM (HxSXm)

We're gonna need a bigger syringe.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 10:12 PM (JS0vr)

62 Good evening, good people. And you too, cthulhu.

Just a drive-by for now, as the doggeh is in a mood, and I need to tire him out with a good walk/run.

Feel better Maet. Sooner than later, hopefully.

I'll be back with an important question for the morons & 'ettes in a hot minute...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 10:12 PM (Eri3o)

63 Peaches, sometimes I think the young are more resilient than dinosaurs like me. I can't imagine the family.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:13 PM (l3vZN)

64 I'm thinking Jensen Revolver, but maybe a derringer of some kind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:13 PM (aDwsi)

65 So this ONT is worth 20,000 words.

Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2014 10:13 PM (sdi6R)

66 Rick Perry was on Cavuto this afternoon...looking good and making lots of sense.

Hannity is getting ready to replay it, right now, if you want to see it.

Perry was in NY today, to debate 'job creation' with Coumo.
I think Coumo chickened out, though.

Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2014 10:13 PM (la7X9)

67 I don't know if you can watch this link, but these are his fellows last night.


That's hard to watch.

You have my condolences, Jinx. And prayers for your son.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 10:13 PM (0HooB)

68 church stuff always discombobulates me. never been much for it and, when obliged to attend, can't make myself mouth the words i mostly know because i refuse to lie to a creator that i do know exists.

yet, gotta get the kid baptized and all that shit. last thing i want to do, honestly. maybe he'll have a better experience with it all.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:13 PM (uXhnS)

69 I am not clicking that picture of Hillary, and I have no idea who the woman in the pink get-up is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:14 PM (aDwsi)

70 Three Nice Small Town Girls ONT Compliance Pic

http://tinyurl.com/m979ql4

Or three entrants to a Daisy Duke Lookalike Contest

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:14 PM (aTXUx)

71 Oh - and by the way - the little blonde with a gun in her hoo-hah?
The obligatory "i'd hit it." There I said it.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 10:14 PM (Eri3o)

72 That X-Y chromosome article is quite interesting. One takeaway I got was that you can hormonally change a male so that they grow tits etc., you're still really a guy at the cellular level.

I mean, that's not really a surprise, but it does raise interesting questions about, say, natural shemales.

And finally, the Y chromosome can be blamed on the duck billed platypus. That is ghey.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 23, 2014 10:15 PM (wNF3N)

73 Prayers for the family, Jinx. There is no understanding it with a suicide, there just isn't. I don't fb, so can't watch your link, but that's probably okay, in a selfish way. {{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2014 10:15 PM (8lmkt)

74 This happened yesterday, but has been with me all day. Young man, due to graduate, commission as an officer in the USMC and to marry took his own life. He was a mentor to my young son at school.

Breaks my heart, and I didn't even know him directly.

I don't know if you can watch this link, but these are his fellows last night.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=627634060650059

Posted by: Jinx the Cat


oh my

so much promise, such a good guy

a real tragedy. Prayers for you, your son, his friends and family. I hope God holds you all in the palm of his hand and you all help each other through this

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 10:16 PM (zOTsN)

75 >>duck billed platypus

no that was Krauthammer

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:17 PM (Cq0oW)

76 Rick Perry was on Cavuto this afternoon...looking good and making lots of sense.

Great. Is it true about him hiring former McCain campaign staff & other totally unacceptable advisers? I don't remember where I read it, I'm in a fucking pollen haze. Kill. Me. Now.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 10:17 PM (QnqoN)

77 Jinx, Maet feel better.

Jinx suicide sucks and is tragic and a brutal thing to your circle.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 10:17 PM (TE35l)

78
I should've phrased it: they're in their forties and not fat.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:17 PM (SlZiq)

79 >sends Jinx some mint oreos via USB<

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2014 10:17 PM (L02KD)

80 "Continue reading"

Heh. Good one.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 23, 2014 10:18 PM (IN7k+)

81 71 Oh - and by the way - the little blonde with a gun in her hoo-hah?
The obligatory "i'd hit it." There I said it.
Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 10:14 PM (Eri3o)

"The Gun is good!"

Posted by: Zardoz at April 23, 2014 10:18 PM (WlWt+)

82 >sends Jinx some mint oreos via USB

And wash them down with this margarita.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 10:18 PM (0HooB)

83
No, really, you ever see this type of woman? They have a superiority complex or something? Look at me! Look at me! I'm skinny and I'm a mom! and I eat healthy and I recycle!

Shuddup.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:19 PM (SlZiq)

84 Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 10:14 PM (Eri3o)

Hit her in her crotch first. Just in case it's Occupado.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 10:19 PM (JS0vr)

85 they're in their forties and not fat

Yeah I got a weakness for the young skinny ones.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2014 10:19 PM (L02KD)

86 48 --- Jinx the Cat ---
Oh, that is truly heart-breaking.

God help all those who loved him, including your son....and even those (like you) who knew him only indirectly.
What a terrible loss.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 23, 2014 10:19 PM (dfYL9)

87 jinx how's your son dealing with it?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:20 PM (Cq0oW)

88 Thank you all....such a waste.

I will go back to lurking now, and am sorry to have shared that in a way, but I have been hoping the ache would go away and it hasn't.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:20 PM (l3vZN)

89 the 173rd is a tough unit, but 150 men, is no match, I was reading about the original Crimea war, about 160 years ago, and it began with expertly calibrated signals by the Brits, which Nicholas 1, ignored for the most part,

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at April 23, 2014 10:21 PM (Jsiw/)

90 Shit Jinx, that's hard.

I don't know how regular schools deal with the death of a student. At the military schools they always do something. When I started at West Point, whenever we lost someone, we would all go out on the apron and have a few minutes of silence. Somewhere along the line, some trumpet players (not sure if they were cadets or from the Army band) came out and played Silver Taps.

After that, it became a tradition. It was like that every time.

Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2014 10:21 PM (BG5jZ)

91 59 Evening morons. No work tonight!!
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (R+XDI)



If I'm not mistaken, you have a wee one due to make a debut shortly, no?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 10:21 PM (oMKp3)

92
Never apologize, Jinxie. It's a rule at AoS.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:21 PM (SlZiq)

93 Before I go clicking Maet's pix (you should excuse the expression)... Had I thought about the ONT coming up, I would've saved this instead of posting to the last thread like a socially awkward fool... oh, well. I are what I am.

Just found out about this, of possible interest to folks in the NE Oklahoma area, as a few of us get to be, so I rushed in here to share (sorry about banging the door). Ha ha that joke's... no funnier the second time.

______

Liberty Rally
Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Sarah Palin, and Oklahoma's "most conservative ever" Speaker of the State House and candidate for Coburn's Senate seat, T.W. Shannon.

Tomorrow, Apr 24, 6pm, Green Country Event Center, 12000 E 31st Street, Tulsa, OK, 74146.

RSVP at twshannon.com/rsvp, 918-246-6104, #TWLibertyRally

_____

We probably can't make it. Maybe you can.

Oh, yeah...

Howdy.

Posted by: mindful webworker is inside your computer at April 23, 2014 10:21 PM (U13jb)

94 kbdabear's PSA to get you into a healthy lifestyle



http://tinyurl.com/ltsqafy



You're welcome



Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:11 PM (aTXUx)



First I'm going to try my hand at being a shooter. After that...yeah...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 23, 2014 10:21 PM (yh0zB)

95 What they're saying is the XY chromosome is singular and streamlined. Unlike the common and filled with extraneous material, XX.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 10:22 PM (JS0vr)

96 I will go back to lurking now, and am sorry to have shared that in a way, but I have been hoping the ache would go away and it hasn't.

Time heals all wounds, Jinx.

We're here if you need us, such as we are.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 10:22 PM (0HooB)

97 “We are only beginning to understand the full extent of the differences in molecular biology of males and females,” Andrew Clark, a geneticist at Cornell University, wrote in a commentary in Nature on the two reports.

Such a cis-normative simple way to describe things. Men and wymen are different, please!

Posted by: Gender Studies Student at April 23, 2014 10:22 PM (WlWt+)

98 Three nice corn fed country girls

They making corn out of silicon these days?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 23, 2014 10:22 PM (IN7k+)

99 "Latest Trends in Motorboating"

Yeah!

Posted by: Stark Dickflüßig at April 23, 2014 10:22 PM (MbqmP)

100 88 Thank you all....such a waste.
I will go back to lurking now, and am sorry to have shared that in a way, but I have been hoping the ache would go away and it hasn't.

Aw crap jinx, that's horrible.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 10:22 PM (QnqoN)

101
Yeah I got a weakness for the young skinny ones.

You and every other man in the world. Except me; I like 'em thick and curvy.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:23 PM (SlZiq)

102 Nice pic of a custom Harley chopper

http://tinyurl.com/lcogtcg

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:23 PM (aTXUx)

103 I should've phrased it: they're in their forties and not fat.

You say that like its a bad thing.

Get old you will, soothy.

Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2014 10:24 PM (BG5jZ)

104 48...Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:09 PM (l3vZN)

Such a tragic loss. It's so sad when we lose one so young.
It never makes any sense.
My condolences to you and your son.

Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2014 10:24 PM (la7X9)

105 I FOUND MY LENS CAP! Sorry for the all "caps" thing (see what I did there) but I'm pretty pleased. This has been the greatest day EVER!

Posted by: Null at April 23, 2014 10:24 PM (xjpRj)

106 So sorry to hear that, jinx.

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at April 23, 2014 10:25 PM (Jsiw/)

107 Oh - and by the way - the little blonde with a gun in her hoo-hah? The obligatory "i'd hit it." There I said it.
Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 10:14 PM (Eri3o)


And "it" would hit back.

Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2014 10:25 PM (Eec6W)

108 I will go back to lurking now, and am sorry to have
shared that in a way, but I have been hoping the ache would go away and
it hasn't.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:20 PM (l3vZN)



Damn Jinx, sorry to see this. It doesn't go away, you just get used to living with it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 23, 2014 10:25 PM (yh0zB)

109 OK, it's time for The Americans. Gotta accumulate some fast-forward time, don'tchaknow.

Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 10:25 PM (0HooB)

110 Maet,
I'm sorry you are sick.
Thank you for ONT!

Posted by: Carol at April 23, 2014 10:26 PM (gjOCp)

111
There is nothingsexier than a confident, fit middle aged woman.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 23, 2014 10:26 PM (jucos)

112 First I'm going to try my hand at being a shooter. After that...yeah...)))

How the biathlon race was invented.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 23, 2014 10:26 PM (75hfB)

113
I refuse to get old, dammit! I hate it.

I made a huge mistake a couple of weeks ago -- I looked up high school classmates online and saw a few pics.

And that's why today I'm giving "my rat" injections of growth hormones.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:26 PM (SlZiq)

114 Here's another picture, with accompanying article:

https://tinyurl.com/jwvxl8j

NASA's LADEE moon orbiter ended its mission this week by being intentionally crashed into the far side of the moon.

Its primary mission was to measure the amount of dust near the moon's surface, and it also tested for the first time a method of transmitting data by laser instead of the traditional radio. That's the equivalent of broadband vs. dialup.

It was also the first moon launch from Wallops Island, VA, and I was able to watch the ascent from my front yard in Pennsylvania last September. Since I've never been to Cape Canaveral, that's the first moon launch I saw live and in person, which was pretty cool.

RIP, LADEE.

Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2014 10:26 PM (sdi6R)

115 I know, and have known, men that are better than me, a lot better. One, a friend for decades, passed away today from a heart attack. I do not recall him ever using a curse word, or ever saying anything bad about anyone. He was hardly a shrinking violet, he was well known, well respected, and active in the community. RIP Tommy.
http://tinyurl.com/o99ft93

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:27 PM (aDwsi)

116 62
Good evening, good people. And you too, cthulhu.



Just a drive-by for now, as the doggeh is in a mood, and I need to tire him out with a good walk/run.



Feel better Maet. Sooner than later, hopefully.



I'll be back with an important question for the morons 'ettes in a hot minute...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 10:12 PM (Eri3o)
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You need to run him extra hard to try and work-off some of that cake.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 10:27 PM (T1005)

117 88 Thank you all....such a waste.

I will go back to lurking now, and am sorry to have shared that in a way, but I have been hoping the ache would go away and it hasn't.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:20 PM (l3vZN)


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Jinx -

yesterday I babysat my grandchildren while my daughter and her husband went to the wake for their friend who took his own life on Friday. He left two very young children at behind.

My daughter was sick to her stomach during the service, from grief and shock and, yes - ANGER that he would do this to his family. It's beyond understanding.

My condolences to your son. My daughter is feeling similar things tonight.

God be with you, and with us all. Too much death.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 10:27 PM (oMKp3)

118 I refuse to get old, dammit! I hate it.

Posted by: Soothsayer
---------------

Sucks, don't it? It is a creeping, insidious thing that picks up speed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:28 PM (aDwsi)

119 As an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion, I have been taught that if Nancy Pelosi, and Zombie Ted Kennedy present themselves for Holy Communion, I must give it to them. The local Bishop reserves for himself the ability to deny Holy Communion.

But, did you ever hear of the sin of Sacrilege? It is the sin of receiving Holy Communion while in the state of Mortal Sin.

Piling sin upon sin.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 10:28 PM (V70Uh)

120 Latest trends in Motorboating in 1930

Was that a story on Mae West?

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:29 PM (aTXUx)

121 76 Rick Perry was on Cavuto this afternoon...looking good and making lots of sense.

Great. Is it true about him hiring former McCain campaign staff other totally unacceptable advisers? I don't remember where I read it, I'm in a fucking pollen haze. Kill. Me. Now.


Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy

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Eh, I doubt that's true, bebe.
I read a blurb a couple of weeks back, that he'd hired some of Newt's campaign staff.

This early on we have to take these stories with a grain of salt.

I know exactly what you mean about "being in a pollen haze"...I have been too.
In fact, the throbbing in my head is coming back right now.

Posted by: wheatie at April 23, 2014 10:29 PM (la7X9)

122 >> I FOUND MY LENS CAP! Sorry for the all "caps" thing (see what I did
there) but I'm pretty pleased. This has been the greatest day EVER!

I'm wondering how Null would describe finding a $20 bill on the sidewalk.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 23, 2014 10:29 PM (wNF3N)

123 what's our opinion on .22 airguns? looking at the beeman rs2 or a ruger airhawk, something boyhowdy that smarts but not holy crap you paid what

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:30 PM (Cq0oW)

124 You and every other man in the world. Except me; I like 'em thick and curvy.
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:23 PM (SlZiq)


You need two of the skinny ones just to warm the bed properly. Twice the hassle!

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 23, 2014 10:30 PM (TNcMy)

125 Nice pic of a custom Harley chopper http://tinyurl.com/lcogtcg
Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:23 PM (aTXUx)


Best. Hood. Ornament. Ever!

Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2014 10:30 PM (Eec6W)

126 Bertram Cabot,
Thank you, I found Dennis Miller radio show on website you suggested in Letterman/Colbert thread.

I'll have to send link to my office email so I can listen when everyone good is off for one treason or another.

Posted by: Carol at April 23, 2014 10:31 PM (gjOCp)

127 Hammer, I'm sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2014 10:31 PM (8lmkt)

128 Lileks has a lot of stuff like the old Popular magazines. I have the complete home handymans encyclopedia c1968 and several yearbooks. Full of good ideas and products that never caught on. Horribly dated audio and camera stuff.


Posted by: Bill sometimes bill from Canada at April 23, 2014 10:32 PM (iDvEZ)

129 105
I FOUND MY LENS CAP! Sorry for the all "caps" thing (see what I did
there) but I'm pretty pleased. This has been the greatest day EVER!


Posted by: Null at April 23, 2014 10:24 PM (xjpRj)
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You really should get out more.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 10:33 PM (T1005)

130
So the Y chromosome is a lean, mean fightin' machine while the X chromosome is chock full of superfluous junk, kinda like a handbag.

'Splains a lot...

* ducks and covers *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 23, 2014 10:33 PM (HsTG8)

131 Airguns are for shooting cats that defecate in flower beds. Specifically the neighbors cat, and yes I have.

Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 23, 2014 10:33 PM (vA2UI)

132 dang, grammie winger, that's horrible . . . I'm so sorry. never, ever will i be able to understand what makes someone do that, especially someone with young children. seems so selfish.

Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2014 10:33 PM (8lmkt)

133 "Breaks my heart, and I didn't even know him directly."
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:09 PM (l3vZN)

When inexperienced youth find themselves in something so painful that they cannot see their way "to the other side", it is a tragedy.

Sometimes, words and actions aren't enough to clear them from their seemingly "neverending" fog.

For those they leave behind, the confusion cannot always be cleared.

I felt this way when my Best Friend took his own life while I was still in High School.

For the friends and Family, the questions can be worse than the act itself, as it replays in their minds over-and-over.

I ask God to assuage the emotional impact on the Family and hold them close; through His love and their loving, caring actions.

May He surround them with those who will break this fall gently. May they close ranks and mourn together with our outside Love and Prayers.

...in Jesus' Name, I Pray,

*Amen*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 10:34 PM (lq3Ak)

134 what's our opinion on .22 airguns? looking at the beeman rs2 or a ruger airhawk, something boyhowdy that smarts but not holy crap you paid what

Posted by: Bigby's
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Are you settled on .22?, because there are .177 fans, and, uh, uh... .25 fans

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:35 PM (aDwsi)

135 I used to have a Smith and Wesson .22 Co2 that looked exactly like an automatic. Would blow a hole in 1/4 " plywood at 30 feet.

Posted by: Bill sometimes bill from Canada at April 23, 2014 10:35 PM (iDvEZ)

136 131 oh i wanted one for plinking. want range for that, mostly. i figure 22 might even be useful here and there

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:35 PM (Cq0oW)

137 108
I will go back to lurking now, and am sorry to have

shared that in a way, but I have been hoping the ache would go away and

it hasn't.



Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:20 PM (l3vZN)



Damn Jinx, sorry to see this. It doesn't go away, you just get used to living with it.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 23, 2014 10:25 PM (yh0zB)
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I'm finding that it hits me in odd ways at odd times. At one point, I had a flashback to the panic I had felt.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 10:35 PM (T1005)

138 Racial Equality Declared Constitutional

The Supreme Court has ruled that the obvious truth is the obvious truth: States that ban racial discrimination do not violate the 14th Amendment's prohibition on racial discrimination.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5613

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 23, 2014 10:35 PM (AymDN)

139 Airguns are for shooting cats that defecate in flower beds. Specifically the neighbors cat, and yes I have.
Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 23, 2014 10:33 PM (vA2UI)

*******

And for the neighbor's cat that comes into my garage every time it's open for an hour and puts paw prints on the body and convertible top of my '72 442.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 10:36 PM (ojnk6)

140 132 dang, grammie winger, that's horrible . . . I'm so sorry. never, ever will i be able to understand what makes someone do that, especially someone with young children. seems so selfish.
Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2014 10:33 PM (8lmkt)



I know Peaches. It's just not right. I know he was suffering from depression, and had just gotten some new medication a few days before. Why couldn't he have given it time to work? Those two babies might still have their daddy. It's beyond sad.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 10:36 PM (oMKp3)

141
1. Guys don't just slip and fall and cause a massive head injury while simply standing smoking a cigarrette. I wonder when they are going to report the real story.

2. Shand was a rich playboy who dabbled in environmental bullshit so idiots wouldn't think he was such a worthless pussy chasing git.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 10:37 PM (8c12T)

142 139 lemme guess. you wait until the cat jumps off and gets at least 10 feet away

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:37 PM (Cq0oW)

143 Lupita Nyong'o is my kinda gal.

Posted by: eman at April 23, 2014 10:37 PM (AO9UG)

144 Peaches - Thnx. A hell of a nice guy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:38 PM (aDwsi)

145 I refuse to get old, dammit! I hate it.

start weight lifting yo.
like power lifting ie. Mark Rippetoe stuff

I'm almost 50, but stronger than I was in my 20's and 30's


Squat
Dead Lift
Overhead Press
Bench Press
Power Cleans

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 10:39 PM (8OOTf)

146 Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 10:34 PM (lq3Ak)
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Amen.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 10:39 PM (T1005)

147 I have a problem with 3 feral cats on a rural road. they harrass my two cats.

Going to trap and relocate one by one.

Posted by: Bill sometimes bill from Canada at April 23, 2014 10:39 PM (iDvEZ)

148
Well, I think I'll call it a night. I'm going to go pray for all of you guys going thru pain right now. I suppose that covers most of us, eh?

Love you people. Good night.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 10:40 PM (oMKp3)

149
That slip-and-fall story is total bullshit.

The "teen stowaway" story is more believable, and that's probably bullshit, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:40 PM (SlZiq)

150
The BBC is really overrated. They are so PC, all their shows are predictable and boring. They even lack technical finesse. Recently I was watching a doc where the guy was outside and it was cloudy causing his face to appear unnaturally dark. They were too stupid to have one of those white light reflectors to bounce light up under his face. This week they are showing a series called Jamaica Inn. Episode 1 had 10 minutes of video missing and episode 3 had several minutes of garbled sound which they are blaming on the actors. Really, bbc?

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 10:40 PM (8c12T)

151 139 lemme guess. you wait until the cat jumps off and gets at least 10 feet away
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:37 PM (Cq0oW)

*******

I catch him in the yard on the way up to the house when I'm on a smoke break in the garage. 2 pumps. I've gotten it twice and have not seen it around my house for a while.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 10:41 PM (ojnk6)

152 Hi Cthulhu,
Did you read what I posted about Kumato tomatoes? They are brown & taste delicious raw & were very good roasted.

Posted by: Carol at April 23, 2014 10:41 PM (gjOCp)

153 "In the run up to the gathering, which is
similar to a parliament, the Vatican has commissioned a ‘sex survey’
from every diocese in the world asking for parishioners’ opinions on
divorce, gay marriage and celibacy"

That celibacy word right there at the end is maybe a big deal if it is about the clergy.

Posted by: Baltimorethug at April 23, 2014 10:41 PM (B1IvI)

154 That blonde in the garters, my first thought was ...

"Ann Coulter stars in 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'"

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:42 PM (aTXUx)

155
Well, I've been in the gym regularly since I was 16 so I'm definitely not as strong as I was when I was 25, or 35.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:42 PM (SlZiq)

156 " I know he was suffering from depression, and had just gotten some new medication a few days before. Why couldn't he have given it time to work? Those two babies might still have their daddy. It's beyond sad."

That's actually really common. Anti-depressants can actually increase the risk of suicide when you first begin them because they give the very very depressed the energy to get up and actually kill themselves instead of just thinking about doing it. That's why a) people need to monitored very closely when starting new antidepressants and b) they shouldn't be given to teenagers.

Posted by: Lauren at April 23, 2014 10:42 PM (hFL/3)

157 oh i wanted one for plinking. want range for that, mostly. i figure 22 might even be useful here and there

Posted by: Bigby's
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For casual plinking, I think any of the brand-name break-barrels is fine. There are probably a bazillion reviews on-line. I think it is mostly a matter of how much you care to spend. Beware of one thing, many of the guns packaged with scopes, have fairly crappy scopes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:42 PM (aDwsi)

158 I have a Crossman .177 pistol that you pump. The neighborhood strays have learned when they here that pumping noise that it's time to go. Cats are Pavlovian.

Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 23, 2014 10:42 PM (vA2UI)

159 Goodnight Grammie Winger,
Thank you for praying for the Horde.

Posted by: Carol at April 23, 2014 10:43 PM (gjOCp)

160
The plane stowaway story is bullshit. No one survive 5 + hours of -60 temps in a t-shirt and slacks. It is just a matter now of who is hiding what, and for what reason.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 23, 2014 10:43 PM (jucos)

161 had just gotten some new medication a few days before. Why couldn't he have given it time to work? Those two babies might still have their daddy. It's beyond sad.

Some of those meds push people over the edge. And I believe that the truly mentally ill are not thinking straight and cannot accurately fathom just how much damage their death will do.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 10:43 PM (QnqoN)

162 >start weight lifting yo

man i wish i could do that. ruined, wasted elbow. cant lift my own weight with it, a face plant can rebreak it in many places.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:44 PM (cZ9ct)

163 "I will go back to lurking now, and am sorry to have shared that in a way, but I have been hoping the ache would go away and it hasn't."
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:20 PM (l3vZN)

God will allow you to be as sad as it takes, for as long as it should hurt*. No apologies necessary.

*If it lasts for more than four years, tell your doctor.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 10:44 PM (lq3Ak)

164 Well, I've been in the gym regularly since I was 16 so I'm definitely not as strong as I was when I was 25, or 35.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:42 PM (SlZiq)


Get Starting Strenght 3rdE by Mark Rippetoe to start.

Most things you learned at 16 are probable not correct

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 10:44 PM (8OOTf)

165 Whole foods will take you even when you are 50 and should be re thinking your Sally o Malley pants. They offer you Ice when you buy very nice lump meat crab cakes and to carry that and the very interesting pale pink wine that turned out to be that Brangelina wine but was shockingly good to you car because you have a splinted up wrist.

Why are you mad at whole foods?

Posted by: SarahW at April 23, 2014 10:44 PM (Lbv/k)

166 152
Hi Cthulhu,

Did you read what I posted about Kumato tomatoes? They are brown taste delicious raw were very good roasted.

Posted by: Carol at April 23, 2014 10:41 PM (gjOCp)
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I've tried all sorts of tomatoes, and the only ones I didn't like as much were the runny ones. Anything that has a lot of pulp works well -- you can even do cherry tomatoes in it.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 10:46 PM (T1005)

167 157 thanks, thats one doubt covered

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:46 PM (LjymQ)

168 Most things you learned at 16 are probable not correct

Posted by: Le Derp
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A generalization that is impossible to contradict..., in so many ways.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:46 PM (aDwsi)

169 man i wish i could do that. ruined, wasted elbow. cant lift my own weight with it, a face plant can rebreak it in many places.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:44 PM (cZ9ct)

start very light, you would be supprised on how good it feels

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 10:46 PM (8OOTf)

170 *If it lasts for more than four years, tell your doctor.
Posted by: Slapweasel


that's what they told me in Nov. 2008, my friend.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:47 PM (l3vZN)

171 Most things you learned at 16 are probable not correct.

What if you learned that at 16?

Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2014 10:47 PM (BG5jZ)

172 The plane stowaway story is bullshit. No one survive 5 + hours of -60 temps in a t-shirt and slacks. It is just a matter now of who is hiding what, and for what reason.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 23, 2014 10:43 PM (jucos)

Not to mention lack of oxygen

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 10:47 PM (aTXUx)

173 24 In the churches I have been attending it has always been an open table. This makes sense to me.
If the Catholic Church is not offering Communion to sinners, then no one is partaking.
Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2014 10:00 PM (BG5jZ)

1. Holy Eucharist is a sacrament, which is a serious matter. Even Catholics can't take part in it until they have been properly prepared, which includes being taught an understanding of what Holy Eucharist is in the Catholic Church, transubstantiation, Jesus is present. Most protestants don't believe in the sacrament the way we do.

2. Sinners are welcome but they must repent, and make a sincere effort to stop sinning. You can't consider yourself repenting for the sin if you intend to keep doing it. You do this through the sacrament of reconciliation (confession). Many Catholics don't go to church but don't go to communion if they are sinning, for instance committing adultery, and aren't stopping.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 23, 2014 10:47 PM (ynL/v)

174 Most things you learned at 16 are probable not correct.

What if you learned that at 16?

Posted by: blaster
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Paradox?, or conundrum?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:48 PM (aDwsi)

175 man i wish i could do that. ruined, wasted elbow. cant lift my own weight with it, a face plant can rebreak it in many places

Uh light weights at increasingly high reps will still help a lot. You don't need to the full on ahnuld bodybuilder thing,

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 10:48 PM (QnqoN)

176 141. He was drinking, drinking heavily. That's why he fell down, that and he already needed a cane because his proprioception was bad.

Posted by: SarahW at April 23, 2014 10:48 PM (Lbv/k)

177 oh i know derp. done it before. its a non starter now is all

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:48 PM (Cq0oW)

178 The plane stowaway story is bullshit. No one survive 5 + hours of -60 temps in a t-shirt and slacks. It is just a matter now of who is hiding what, and for what reason.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 23, 2014 10:43 PM (jucos)

The Stow away is a Somalli, if it matters.

trying to get nback to the homeland

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 10:48 PM (8OOTf)

179 I had thought that suicide was a one-way ticket to Hell.

So much Western literature confirms this no? Bram Stoker's Dracula sold his soul to the Devil because his sister, who jumped into a river upon news (false) that he died in battle was refused Christian burial in the church graveyard.

Lies. Don't judge the Church by the novels of 19th century writers.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 10:49 PM (V70Uh)

180 Godspeed, 173rd.

Posted by: Arthur Cognomen at April 23, 2014 10:49 PM (dkesm)

181 So I am still this side of 50, but rounding up....

I let myslef get too far out of shape. I had a friend (on the other side of 50) who is a Beachbody coach, he recommended doing the workouts. Yeah, I know, its Amway of fitness, but it works. I feel way better.

And we lost 6 classmates last year. Yikes.

Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2014 10:49 PM (BG5jZ)

182 Got put on a drug for cluster headaches back in the day. Took me to so many dark places I swear I couldn't find a way out. Thank God I hid the ammo so good that I couldn't find it. Also, I was too damn lazy to search it out. Not fun.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 23, 2014 10:49 PM (Q8vlx)

183 Get Starting Strenght 3rdE by Mark Rippetoe to start.

Most things you learned at 16 are probable not correct


I'll look it up. And my training has evolved over the years. My joints are worn, now. And now my muscles are less dense.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:50 PM (SlZiq)

184 Uh light weights at increasingly high reps will still help a lot. You don't need to the full on ahnuld bodybuilder thing,
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 10:48 PM (QnqoN)

Linear Progression baby,

Work set is 3 sets of 5 reps

bebe!!

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 10:50 PM (8OOTf)

185 ..."One, a friend for decades, passed away today from a heart attack. I do not recall him ever using a curse word, or ever saying anything bad about anyone. He was hardly a shrinking violet, he was well known, well respected, and active in the community. RIP Tommy."
-Posted by Mike Hammer

May God find him Well, Mike. May his plane of existence reflect the way he treated others.

May we find him as an example of just how beautiful life can be lived.

I'll pray for you and his family. Should his life be an example, he will be honored and admired, as it should be.

Rest in Heaven, Dear Friend in Love,

*amen*



Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 10:51 PM (lq3Ak)

186 I didn't go away after all. Could we please not start a debate on Holy Communion? I'm not about the rain on anybody's parade as to what they feel the Sacrament is. I think if we spent more time on the meaning of "the New covenant in my blood" which Jesus said in three Gospels and was said in Corinthians, and more time focusing on Jesus, we would be more united as Christians which is what Jesus wanted us to be. People of a variety of denominations love the Sacrament. Let's lift up Jesus-not our disagreements. As I have said numerous times, the left will make all faithful Christian who don't believe in the faux Messiah Obama into the enemy so we need to be united in Christ. We all have much more in common that we don't have.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 10:51 PM (XyM/Y)

187 When I lived in town the guy across the street use to let his little old yappen**cker out at night to yap and crap. I used to shoot at the fence next to it with a pump .177. On Halloween it was harasssing kids, I heard one say it nipped him. I got the wrist rocket slingshot and caught it with a pebble crossing the strret. Then one Sat it wandered over to crap on my lawn while he was curtting the grass and iI plugged his ass from the window. After that when I heard it yapping I just held the gun near an open window and dry fired after one pump, and it would go back in their yard and I assume; try to get in the house.

Its up to you to train your stupid neighbors dogs.

Now I'm working on the one next door here. Going to get some mexican firecrackers.

Posted by: Bill sometimes bill from Canada at April 23, 2014 10:52 PM (iDvEZ)

188
re: elbows

Fish oil caps can really help lubricrate joints and help lower inflammation.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:52 PM (SlZiq)

189 Also, regarding Catholicism and Holy Eucharist. I don't believe that politicians like Pelosi, who openly promote abortion, should be going to communion. And her describing late-term abortions as "sacred ground" is grotesque.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 23, 2014 10:52 PM (ynL/v)

190 I see Flatbush Joe hit is way up thread but I just now saw it myself.

This should be criminal.

Ashley Sewell ‏@TXTrendyChick 1h
Number of veterans waiting on the "secret list" to see a primary care physician is somewhere between 1,400 and 1,600.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 10:52 PM (DmNpO)

191
Cissus Quadranglis (sp) is also a good supplement for joints and tendons.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:53 PM (SlZiq)

192 OK, Somali gets him off the hook for food and water. Still needs a little air, though.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 23, 2014 10:53 PM (xq1UY)

193 Work set is 3 sets of 5 reps

5 reps?! Shit, my trainer always started 8-10 and worked up to 15. When I could do 15 easy, the weight increased.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 10:53 PM (QnqoN)

194 oh i know derp. done it before. its a non starter now is all
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:48 PM (Cq0oW)

it is never too late.

I started overhead press w/ a 45# bar

and squatting 135# at first was fookin heavy

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 10:54 PM (8OOTf)

195 So how does human flesh, at -60F to -80F for 4-5 hours, not suffer from severe frostbite?

Posted by: Javems at April 23, 2014 10:54 PM (ZnvRl)

196 Now I'm working on the one next door here. Going to get some mexican firecrackers.

Posted by: Bill sometimes bill from Canada
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Bill - still waiting for you to come pick up yer damn geese.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:54 PM (aDwsi)

197 "Sucks, don't it? It is a creeping, insidious thing that picks up speed."
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:28 PM (aDwsi)

I feel like a boat that hit a rock when I play sports with younger folks... lol.

The waves take away boards and planks every year.

...and then they add hairs in the wrong places, as well as tits.

::fistbump::

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 10:54 PM (lq3Ak)

198 I was never taught it was a sin to take communion if you were divorced -- just if you remarried.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 10:54 PM (8c12T)

199 Like I wrote, if Pelosi shows up, I have to give It to her. The Sacrilege belongs to her.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 10:55 PM (V70Uh)

200 Fish oil caps can really help lubricrate joints and help lower inflammation.

Posted by: Soothsayer
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Easy for you to say...

Posted by: The Fish at April 23, 2014 10:55 PM (aDwsi)

201 Sorry about your friend, Mike. May the Lord strengthen and comfort you and his other friends and family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 10:56 PM (XyM/Y)

202 Hairy reed threatened a nv citizen today, straight out of the godfather, just my opinion, I could be wrong, but I'm not!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 23, 2014 10:56 PM (VgMBx)

203 68 church stuff always discombobulates me. never been much for it and, when obliged to attend, can't make myself mouth the words i mostly know because i refuse to lie to a creator that i do know exists.

yet, gotta get the kid baptized and all that shit. last thing i want to do, honestly. maybe he'll have a better experience with it all.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:13 PM (uXhnS)

I know how you feel. For several reasons, I hold a great deal of animosity toward God and do not go to church for that reason. I can't go pretend to worship someone I'm continuously pissed at. I may be a dick, but I'm not a hypocrite.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2014 10:56 PM (mx5oN)

204 yet, gotta get the kid baptized and all that shit. last thing i want to do, honestly. maybe he'll have a better experience with it all.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:13 PM (uXhnS)

Have you looked into various churches to find one that suits your beliefs? I've known people who couldn't accept some aspects about the Catholic Church, or the Baptist Church, or whatever, and found churches that were a better match. There are a huge variety out there. The Catholic Church is very structured and legalistic. Everything is spelled out. That puts some people off. There are churches that are more flexible.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 23, 2014 10:57 PM (ynL/v)

205 grief comes in waves. You forget and then it pops up and you feel guilty for forgetting. Slowly the waves get farther apart. Its necessary to talk about it Jinx so don't feel bad for bringing it here. Make sure your boy finds ways to talk about it too. Not talking about it, that is a killer

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 10:57 PM (zOTsN)

206 There are 'trends' in motorboating?

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I amn't at April 23, 2014 10:58 PM (ab+jQ)

207 5 reps?! Shit, my trainer always started 8-10 and worked up to 15. When I could do 15 easy, the weight increased.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 10:53 PM (QnqoN)

read Rippetoe's book

most of the mutha fuklkin time I got to pause after 3 reps cuz the shit if fuckin heavey

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 10:58 PM (8OOTf)

208 tried fish oil its interesting.

i appreciate the advice and all but none of you have seen what im talking about. im not offended, and please dont be offended in turn. im limited to stuff like bike riding, cardio blah blah. i can drag with the arm and often do. i cannot lift much or straighten it fully. i do what i can is all.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 10:58 PM (rUoJa)

209 "That's what they told me in Nov. 2008, my friend."
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 10:47 PM (l3vZN)

*Hah!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 10:59 PM (lq3Ak)

210 Sir Pug, correct. Remarried or living "in sin."

Personally, I could see myself going to confession once (for the sin of fornication). I would be too ashamed to take Communion after a relapse.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 10:59 PM (V70Uh)

211 Bigsby, find a good trainer & do at least 10 sessions with them so you are comfortable with all the technique, then do it at home. Check in with the trainer a couple times a month to make sure you're still doing the exercises correctly, and to mix up your program.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 10:59 PM (QnqoN)

212 205 grief comes in waves. You forget and then it pops up and you feel guilty for forgetting. Slowly the waves get farther apart. Its necessary to talk about it Jinx so don't feel bad for bringing it here. Make sure your boy finds ways to talk about it too. Not talking about it, that is a killer
Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 10:57 PM (zOTsN)


This. It's extremely important not to try to go it alone with something this traumatic.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2014 10:59 PM (mx5oN)

213 Fenelon - Thanks. Completely unexpected. A reminder that when we speak to someone, it may be for the last time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 10:59 PM (aDwsi)

214 Somali kid was probably smuggled on board the aircraft by some asshole baggage handler. No way he survived travel in the wheel well

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 10:59 PM (zOTsN)

215 I'm 56 and was playing volley ball with mostly younger people on Easter. Impressed my son (15) More fun than seeing inlaws and hardly felt a thing later. I'm one of those stronger than when I was younger.

Posted by: Bill sometimes bill from Canada at April 23, 2014 11:00 PM (iDvEZ)

216
I went to school with a kid with a 'little arm.'

I don't think it was polio, I dunno know what it was from. But he had a regular arm and a skinny arm, his little arm.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:01 PM (SlZiq)

217 There are 'trends' in motorboating? ))

For married people yes. And the trend is south.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 23, 2014 11:01 PM (75hfB)

218 179 I had thought that suicide was a one-way ticket to Hell.

We don't know whether another person has committed a serious sin or not.
For a person to commit a serious sin 3 things must happen.
1. It must be a serious sin
2. The person must know that it is a serious sin
3 The person, knowing it is a serious sin, must make a conscious decision to commit it anyway

If a person commits suicide:
1.perhaps they're in a mental state where they aren't responsible for their choice
2. perhaps after they take the pills, or whatever, they repent

We don't know the state of their conscience.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 23, 2014 11:02 PM (ynL/v)

219 Hairy reed threatened a nv citizen today, straight out of the godfather, just my opinion, I could be wrong, but I'm not!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 23, 2014 10:56 PM (VgMBx)


Did it involve a horse head, or a "free candy" van.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 23, 2014 11:02 PM (AymDN)

220 Somali in Hawaii. Holy moley, I bet the taxpayers will be paying for his room and board and edumacation at the Punahou School.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:02 PM (V70Uh)

221 nerdygirl at April 23, 2014 10:57 PM (ynL/v)

**********

True. I now attend a Church that is non denominational. I was raised Catholic, but could not stay there. My last experience was at a Wedding in which the Priest would not serve communion to non Catholics. I know the guy was a dick, but that tore it for me. New Church celebrates and sends messages via music. Their basic philosophy is "We're all screwed up in various ways. Work to change it, and God will pick up the rest when you meet".

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:03 PM (ojnk6)

222 There are 'trends' in motorboating?


Yes, me for example. If you want to motorboat anything you just come on over.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks at April 23, 2014 11:03 PM (3oRDB)

223 We don't know the state of their conscience

ive talked with a few that regretted putting in motion something we were too late to stop

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 11:04 PM (Cq0oW)

224 most of the mutha fuklkin time I got to pause after 3 reps cuz the shit if fuckin heavey

Yeah, not interested in lifting heavy weights. It's not necessary to strengthen, tone and build endurance. Especially for people with injuries. The heaviest I've ever lifted is 15lb dumbells. I don't know that I would go even a little higher, cause I don't want to piss my joints off.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 11:04 PM (QnqoN)

225 222 There are 'trends' in motorboating?


Yes, me for example. If you want to motorboat anything you just come on over.
Posted by: Christina Hendricks at April 23, 2014 11:03 PM (3oRDB)

Moron stampede!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2014 11:04 PM (mx5oN)

226 ManWithNoParty,

And this came to you as a surprise?

A lot of protestants break the bread, but they don't believe in transubstantiation. You say you were raised Catholic. You didn't make it too far if you don't understand the issue.

My sister left the Catholic Church when once some nun or priest said something mean to her. Seriously.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:06 PM (V70Uh)

227 So, I have an argument against polygamy that I don't think has been completely gamed out.

What happens if the wife of a crime lord is arrested? You can nail her for anything she's personally done, but you can't even ask her to testify against her husband the kingpin, because they're married.

If polygamy becomes the law of the land, every big crime syndicate will simply require all its officers to enter into a group marriage. That way, any officer who's arrested cannot be compelled to testify against any other officer. Because, marriage.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:06 PM (/96QU)

228 Did anyone see the Menu from The Titanic that is going to be auctioned? One of the selections is "Yarmouth Bloaters". That sure tickles my tastebuds....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:06 PM (aDwsi)

229 Most things you learned at 16 are probable not correct

There are a few courses I would like to repeat

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 11:07 PM (Aqvh6)

230
I tear my muscles and demand they re-pair stronger and bigger.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:07 PM (SlZiq)

231 Somali kid was probably smuggled on board the aircraft by some asshole baggage handler. No way he survived travel in the wheel well

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 10:59 PM (zOTsN) ________________And the TSA (spit) is just trying to cover it's ample federal ass. Security theater at airports is such a fucking joke I don't even know where to begin.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 23, 2014 11:07 PM (jucos)

232 Most of them die due to hypoxia. And if the lack of oxygen or freezing temps don't kill them, when the wheel well opens and they fall it does.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 11:08 PM (8c12T)

233 "Most things you learned at 16 are probable not correct "

My calculations for the orbital ellipse of the Moon are probably still correct.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:09 PM (V70Uh)

234 I know the guy was a dick,...
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Not true at all, he was merely conducting the communion as the Church directs it to be conducted.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:09 PM (aDwsi)

235 I go to a catholic church with my wife who was brought up Catholic. They hsve a new priest who is very well liked. Except he puts up with horrible choir music, they don't even know there are hymns for certain days. I was in the choir for a while but it was hopeless, they know absolutely nothing about the great variety of music for church. I hsve been a soloist for years, tenor, but felt completely unwanted.
I was looking for an Episcopalian church nearby, my dad used to take us to Evensong years ago.

Posted by: Bill sometimes bill from Canada at April 23, 2014 11:09 PM (iDvEZ)

236 so in addition to being "made" you've gotta screw the mob boss after a gay marriage? what has the world come to

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 11:09 PM (dsxn5)

237 The TSA, where the Lumpen Proletariat find jobs in the Obama Recovery.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:10 PM (V70Uh)

238 Yeah, not interested in lifting heavy weights. It's not necessary to strengthen, tone and build endurance. Especially for people with injuries. The heaviest I've ever lifted is 15lb dumbells. I don't know that I would go even a little higher, cause I don't want to piss my joints off.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 11:04 PM (QnqoN)

Well don't be stoopid and go too heavy, but lifting is the fastest way to get fit and lean.

I watched Idaho Jakes wife squat 155#
and Dead Lift 185#
at 5'5"@130#

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 11:10 PM (8OOTf)

239 My sister left the Catholic Church when once some nun or priest said something mean to her. Seriously.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:06 PM (V70Uh)

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No, not a surprise. It just opened my eyes fully. I got pretty far, 30 years, altar boy, past confirmation, etc. I had some issues prior to that, which I will keep private. This was just the final straw. I'm now at a Church where all are welcome and happy about it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:10 PM (ojnk6)

240 Most things you learned at 16 are probable not correct
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I wish I didn't know now, what I didn't know then.

Posted by: Bob Seger at April 23, 2014 11:10 PM (aDwsi)

241
At 16 I was given an illustrated weightlifting manual for beginners with Mike Dorsey, or was it Ken Dorsey(?) of the Dallas Cowboys.

It was the white Dorsey.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:11 PM (SlZiq)

242 toppin da capo

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 11:11 PM (dsxn5)

243 I watched Idaho Jakes wife squat 155#
and Dead Lift 185#
at 5'5"@130#

Posted by: Le Derp

That IJ crowd is a tough bunch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:11 PM (aDwsi)

244 "Yarmouth Bloaters"


Gotta be some English delicacy. Those fuckers are depraved when it comes to food.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:12 PM (3oRDB)

245
I also had Arnold's first autobiography, as my guide.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:12 PM (SlZiq)

246 Suicide is supposed to be a mortal sin--the act of denying that the Creator has the power to redeem one's circumstances, etc--but I have to suspect He makes allowances for mental illness.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 23, 2014 11:12 PM (m9V0o)

247 My grandmother stopped being a Catholic after the parish priest gave communion to the lawyer that represented the bastard that murdered her husband. It was one of those blame the victim trials.

Did I mention that I hate lawyers (but not as much as grams).

Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 23, 2014 11:12 PM (vA2UI)

248 244 "Yarmouth Bloaters"


Gotta be some English delicacy. Those fuckers are depraved when it comes to food.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:12 PM (3oRDB)


Food is defined rather loosely in those parts.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2014 11:12 PM (mx5oN)

249 #236: I'd like to point out that one of the Weather Underground's rules was that every member would have sex with any other member who asked.

They would've totally taken advantage of the fact that you can't be compelled to testify against your spouse by entering into a polygamous marriage if that had been an option.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:13 PM (/96QU)

250 Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring... vagina gun!

I've got this feeling, it's so appealing

Posted by: Raffi at April 23, 2014 11:13 PM (qyomX)

251 One aspect of airport kabuki security theater is the fences. Airport near here was required to put up these big ugly fences, but, memo to terrorists, they did nothing about the broken down 3 strand barb wire fence on the South and West side of the airport.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2014 11:14 PM (L02KD)

252 246 Suicide is supposed to be a mortal sin--the act of denying that the Creator has the power to redeem one's circumstances, etc--but I have to suspect He makes allowances for mental illness.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 23, 2014 11:12 PM (m9V0o)


That may be Catholic doctrine, and it's taught in some Protestant churches as well, but I have yet to see any Scriptural basis for it.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2014 11:14 PM (mx5oN)

253 Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2014 10:56 PM (mx5oN)

What you're really mad at isn't God, it's YOUR idea of God. (or perhaps what you've been taught/learned).

Many religions do not teach the concept of God very well.

Faith is all very well but some of us have trouble with the idea of a just and righteous God allowing things to happen to people (and to ourselves) that seem so unfair and so outright wrong that we have trouble accepting that what happens is God's will.

After you've lived and experienced many different situations (which may or may not happen depending on how far you travel and how open to new experiences you are) you will come to understand that we cannot see to the extent that God does. We also do not understand or perceive the outcomes that are to come to pass.

There are many situations where ugly things have to happen for beautiful things to happen. It can also be reversed. What looks like the best thing to happen will actually (in the long run) result in more misery and pain than what would seem possible.

You cannot begin to understand God so how can you be angry with God?

This is where faith comes in. After you accept that God will do what God will do and to endure those bad times you must have faith that there are reasons for those bad times to happen and if you are lucky and persevere perhaps there will be good times to enjoy also.

No life is completely wasted and no life is fully utilized except those few who give themselves wholly over to God and God's purposes. Acceptance is the beginning of understanding and to enduring what may seem unendurable.

Be faithful, be strong, be righteous and be merciful and your life will be better for it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:14 PM (JS0vr)

254 238 I watched Idaho Jakes wife squat 155#
and Dead Lift 185#
at 5'5"@130#

That's cool, if that's what you're into. Higher reps at lower weights gets me the results I want.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 11:15 PM (QnqoN)

255 Here is what happens at ground level spending a similar time sleeping at -17 degrees (attached enclosed porch so probably warmer).

http://www.startribune.com/local/235335841.html

Posted by: Dendritic at April 23, 2014 11:15 PM (75hfB)

256 "Grief comes in waves. You forget and then it pops up and you feel guilty for forgetting. Slowly the waves get farther apart. Its necessary to talk about it Jinx so don't feel bad for bringing it here. Make sure your boy finds ways to talk about it too. Not talking about it, that is a killer."
Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 10:57 PM (zOTsN)

I was thankful that I had plenty of other friends in my neighborhood who "helped me explain" things to the rest of the kids in school.

We talked to each other and "compared notes" after nearly every day.

We didn't know "Why", exactly. We just told them about the family. We were our own stress-relief.

I still Thank God that while I did not attend church, all of my other friends did. I was able to give his death some "Grace".

The dreams came and went. He was there and he wasn't.

I believe God allowed me to be as confused and sad for as long as I was supposed to be.

That was twenty-six years ago and I can still tell you everything I did before and after I found out what happened.

---My apologies. I'm slow tonight. I was stuck thinking about the last thread, catching up on baseball and trying to avoid some feelings about this topic.

My over-explanatory nature overwhelmed me and I've gone off on a tangent.

P.S.: Don't worry about me. I just looked at my Fantasy Baseball Team and I'm pretty happy... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 11:15 PM (lq3Ak)

257 246 dunno. ive talked with suicide "survivors" maybe failures? too. few talk in details but a couple talked about something being very pissed at them and shoving them back.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 11:16 PM (7pCjY)

258
God knows our hearts. Whatever will be will be, when it is time to meet our Maker.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:16 PM (SlZiq)

259 Remember that movie with Carol Baker? She was a Spanish nun but ran away with Roger Moore. It was during the Napoleonic Wars. A whole lot of shit happened and then she released that the area where she was from was suffering from a horrible drought because she broke her vows so she returned. Moore followed her trying to get her back but when he saw her back in Church all happy, he let her be.... fini.

God, Carol hot back then. Made me want to join a nunnery.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 11:16 PM (8c12T)

260 I was looking for an Episcopalian church nearby, my dad used to take us to Evensong years ago.

Posted by: Bill
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Evensong at Salisbury Cathedral. Mrs. Hammer, myself, and four elderly ladies. That was it. Very sad. I considered the thousands who, over centuries, had attended services there. I could almost feel myself surrounded by them. Maybe I was.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:17 PM (aDwsi)

261 re the Somali stowaway --

There has to be a pretty good volume of ground level air in the wheelwell at the start, and I'll assume the doors seal pretty well with the gear up. He's Somali, therefore probably skinny, so his core temp probably dropped pretty fast. There have been a number of cases of drowned children in icy cold water that have been revived after 30 minutes or more, usually without brain damage.

In fact, hospitals are starting to use chilled patient techniques for extended operations to take advantage of this very same phenomenon.

So it's quite possible he survived; whether he's a veggie or not they haven't said that I've seen.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 23, 2014 11:17 PM (wNF3N)

262
My pastor got up and said in a Homily that suicide is not a one-way ticket to Hell. According to him it never was.

Either he is lying or Bram Stoker is lying.

I trust my pastor. 4 years of theology. a couple years of philosophy.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:17 PM (V70Uh)

263 Ok.
back and kinda caught up on the the conversation.

Jinx - I am so, so sorry. I hate hearing these stories, but I realize that they are part of life as we know it. So young, with so much ahead of him...
I know depression and suicide way too well, and I hate reading the ugly stories of horde & their loved ones lately that are suffering. I have been practicing my prayers more than I wish I need to.

God Bless. Prayers forthcoming for all.

That said - if anyone ever shoots my barking mutt with a pellet gun, expect retaliation x10.
I say this as a guy that has multiple airguns & doesn't think twice about disposing of neighborhood squirrels - I will shoot you and your family with rock salt. Maybe worse.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 11:18 PM (HXQvh)

264 That IJ crowd is a tough bunch.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:11 PM (aDwsi)

yep, don't even ask about thier kids.....

Jake almost stopped drinking beer and is powerliftng now

Posted by: Le Derp, which is French for soffisticated.. at April 23, 2014 11:18 PM (8OOTf)

265 Suicide is not a victimless crime. Everyone who gives a shit about the person who killed himself is a victim.

Suicide is a terrible thing that assholes do.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:18 PM (/96QU)

266 they did nothing about the broken down 3 strand barb wire fence on the South and West side of the airport.

Work in the biz. Airport security is a weird thing. A lot of it appears a show for the public. And there's more to it than just the TSA shaking down little old ladies in the terminal. In the background. Won't say too much but there are things.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:19 PM (3oRDB)

267 Ephesians 4

Our unity as Christians is experienced in:

Body-The fellowship of believers-the church universal

Spirit-The Holy Spirit who activates the fellowship

Hope-The glorious future to which we are called-God's Eternal Kingdom.

Lord-Christ to whom we all belong

Faith-Our singular commitment to Christ

Baptism-the sign of entry to the church

God-Our father. The father of all of us. God above all, through all and in all

People are where they are, and people leave churches for a variety of reasons. Pray that we all become closer to Christ wherever we are.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 11:19 PM (XyM/Y)

268 Late to the party but oh well. This was a private phone call between the man who is Pope, notice in the report he did not identify himself as Francis, and a woman seeking advice. This is not official Church policy.

There is a path for her to receive Communion already in place. It is called seeking an Annulment. But it seems she did not seek that corrective path and has compounded her moral issues by marrying another.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2014 11:20 PM (a26oX)

269 "Be faithful, be strong, be righteous and be merciful and your life will be better for it."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:14 PM (JS0vr)

Nicely said, Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 11:20 PM (lq3Ak)

270 246 Suicide is supposed to be a mortal sin--the act of denying that the Creator has the power to redeem one's circumstances, etc--but I have to suspect He makes allowances for mental illness.

Yeah, my dad searched out an article from a Jesuit when J died, that said that the mentally ill don't get an automatic trip to hell. And actually, we can't be sure that anybody, even Judas got an automatic trip because we don't know if they repented at the last second.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 11:20 PM (QnqoN)

271 That was twenty-six years ago and I can still tell you everything I did before and after I found out what happened.

---My apologies. I'm slow tonight. I was stuck thinking about the last thread, catching up on baseball and trying to avoid some feelings about this topic.

My over-explanatory nature overwhelmed me and I've gone off on a tangent.


I'm with you there

I can tell you everything about the day my dad killed himself

it hurts. its supposed to. I survived it

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 11:21 PM (zOTsN)

272 249 #236: I'd like to point out that one of the Weather Underground's rules was that every member would have sex with any other member who asked. They would've totally taken advantage of the fact that you can't be compelled to testify against your spouse by entering into a polygamous marriage if that had been an option.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:13 PM (/96QU)
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Did that include the Gay love?

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 23, 2014 11:22 PM (KlVdw)

273 Nice post, Bitter Clinger. You are a very articulate person of faith, Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 11:22 PM (XyM/Y)

274 Suicide is a terrible thing that assholes do.


Well, seemed like the thing to do at the time.

Posted by: Korechika Anami at April 23, 2014 11:22 PM (3oRDB)

275 Good night friends. Don't kill yourself. While some theologians think that God is merciful, unless you have stage 5 cancer and someone else ups the morphine, I don't think you should do it. Not only do we have our crosses to carry, we have our time to be scourged at the pillar too.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:22 PM (V70Uh)

276 Saw this elsewhere:

The liberal position on Affirmative Action can be summed up as:

"Racism requires racism, because racism."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 23, 2014 11:22 PM (ZPrif)

277 272 asking for a friend?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 11:22 PM (Cq0oW)

278 244
"Yarmouth Bloaters"





Gotta be some English delicacy. Those fuckers are depraved when it comes to food.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:12 PM (3oRDB)
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I think we're being sent off on some false trail -- http://tinyurl.com/k7cz48t

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 11:23 PM (T1005)

279 Suicide is a terrible thing that assholes do.

Considering one of our own succumbed to depression in that way this past year, I might moderate that. A touch.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 23, 2014 11:24 PM (m9V0o)

280 219 Political Hat, well I guess the full power of the US Senate.

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 23, 2014 11:24 PM (VgMBx)

281 Thank you. I am glad that my words are appreciated.

But I am only the messenger.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:25 PM (JS0vr)

282 cthulhu - ISWYDT

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:25 PM (aDwsi)

283 God knows our hearts. Whatever will be will be, when it is time to meet our Maker.

This is my belief exactly. You can't lie to God. He knows who and what you are and there's no talking Him out of it. I can go to church everyday of my life but if I'm a mean, miserable, lying, murderous, deceitful SOB it won't do me any good at all.

I live my life by God's rules everyday and He knows that. I don't have to prove it to my fellow man by putting on an act. God knows.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:26 PM (3oRDB)

284 #272: Yes, it did. It's very likely, for example, that Ward Churchill had buttsecks with Bill Ayers at some point, because that was a rule of the group they both belonged to.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:26 PM (/96QU)

285 asking for a friend?
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 11:22 PM (Cq0oW)

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I almost put that, but I was thinking along the lines of the Weather Underground being a bunch of libs, was it full on depreaved hedonism or were they a bunch of homophobes per their modern definition?

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 23, 2014 11:26 PM (KlVdw)

286
The TSA, where the Lumpen Proletariat find jobs in the Obama Recovery.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:10 PM (V70Uh)












And Somali "immigrants". In fact, one thing that really perplexes me is the large number of Somali or visibly Islamic people employed by US airports. There's gotta be a quota or something, seems like at least a third or more of the service workers are wearing hijabs or look like extras from the Blackhawk Down movie set.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2014 11:26 PM (AHzA7)

287 "Suicide is not a victimless crime. Everyone who gives a shit about the person who killed himself is a victim.

Suicide is a terrible thing that assholes do.
"
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:18 PM (/96QU)

I've gone back-and-forth on this for a decade-and-a-half.

It may be true, at times. I think my friend was mentally ill and abused by his Father.

After failing a few classes in High School, he didn't want to deal with it.

Selfish? -Yes.
Asshole? -No

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 11:26 PM (lq3Ak)

288 Mental illness is not a sin.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 11:27 PM (8c12T)

289 I say this as a guy that has multiple airguns & doesn't think twice about disposing of neighborhood squirrels - I will shoot you and your family with rock salt. Maybe worse.
Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 11:18 PM (HXQvh)

***********

What's so hard about being a good neighbor and controlling the amount of time your barking dog can bother people? It starts, bring it inside. How hard is that? No need to be an asshole and threaten x10 retaliation when you ought to be in more control of the situation in the first place.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:27 PM (ojnk6)

290 #279: A friend of mine committed suicide several years ago, and I'd punch him in the mouth for it if he were here in front of me right now.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:28 PM (/96QU)

291 Ricardo,

The folks going to church all the time are probably not the murderous ones.

In the words on Blaise Pascal: Every sinner thinks he is a saint. Every Saint knows that he is a sinner.

Don't be too smug.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:29 PM (V70Uh)

292 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:14 PM (JS0vr)


You clearly put thought and effort into that, which I appreciate. You seem a decent fellow. What I have to say in response would come off as rather hostile, so I'm just going to leave it alone.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2014 11:29 PM (mx5oN)

293 When it comes to suicide, it's not up to me to judge.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 23, 2014 11:29 PM (Q8vlx)

294
Some Christians, other than Catholics, believe once you accept Christ as your savior your Name is written in the Book Of Life.

But, yeah, God knows your heart. He knows who is sincere and who is not. So I never believed in that Book of Life thing. But I also don't believe in the ritualistic Catholic practices that one has to perform for Everlasting Life.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:29 PM (SlZiq)

295 "I'm with you there
I can tell you everything about the day my dad killed himself
...it hurts. its supposed to. I survived it
"
Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 11:21 PM (zOTsN)

We won't allow it to devour us! We hold strong through the love of friends and family!

Love Strong, thunderb!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 11:30 PM (lq3Ak)

296 I heard a protestant preacher on the radio put it like this:

Faith saves you.

Works put you in a leadership position.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:32 PM (V70Uh)

297 kindle is low on the juice so signing off

i worked a lot with suicidal people before in the past. its an assholish thing to do but i cant say its entirely their own fault always. for some yes its all me me me my pain woe woe is me but others. i dunno, kind of an automatic action is going on. they find themselves collecting pills or at the edge of the swift running river or at the cliff and just walking. They're not present for it, more spectators.

its terrible yes. life thrown away.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 11:32 PM (Mp4RO)

298 Don't be too smug.


????

What was "smug" about what I wrote?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:33 PM (3oRDB)

299 290 #279: A friend of mine committed suicide several years ago, and I'd punch him in the mouth for it if he were here in front of me right now.

Yeah, and I'd kick J square in the nuts. But as mad ad I can still get that he checked out, he was sick. It didnt happen out if spite or anger or anything like that. It makes me sick to think that people can be so lost that they conclude this is the only way out for them.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 11:33 PM (QnqoN)

300
But, what's that saying, faith without deeds...?

I forgot the rest.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:34 PM (SlZiq)

301 289
I say this as a guy that has multiple airguns doesn't think twice
about disposing of neighborhood squirrels - I will shoot you and your
family with rock salt. Maybe worse.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 11:18 PM (HXQvh)



***********



What's so hard about being a good neighbor and controlling the
amount of time your barking dog can bother people? It starts, bring it
inside. How hard is that? No need to be an asshole and threaten x10
retaliation when you ought to be in more control of the situation in the
first place.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:27 PM (ojnk6)
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His dog isn't that barky, the lots in his neighborhood are good-sized, and -- honest to God, I watched this myself in stunned disbelief -- he has the kind of neighbor that would blow the leaves off his yard, then carefully blow them across the street so that they'd be in the road of his across-the-street neighbor.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 11:34 PM (T1005)

302 I live my life by God's rules everyday.

And you never fail?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:34 PM (V70Uh)

303 Guess what? Diphtheria has possibly returned. Fabulous.

Posted by: Lauren at April 23, 2014 11:35 PM (hFL/3)

304 Dang it, Chapter 7 of the Catholicism series attended this week on Liturgy and Eucharist. The Father who was narrating related a story from a saint, John the something on sinners and saints.

This saint described each human as a pane of glass. A saint's pane is turned more fully towards the light of G_d, hence the saint can see more clearly the little smudges. Whereas a sinner's pane is turned more away from the light and hence the sinner does not realize the smudges.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2014 11:35 PM (a26oX)

305
Yarmouth bloaters are English red herrings. I remember that from the time I spent in England. Asked the same question about them.

Also had (I think) a conversation with a bona fide Cockney of which I understood absolutely not one word.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 23, 2014 11:35 PM (SAMxH)

306 The X chromosome is clearly overweight compared to the Y chromosome.

Patriarchy!!!!!!1&&(!!

Posted by: Chique at April 23, 2014 11:35 PM (r+7wo)

307 cthulhu at April 23, 2014 11:34 PM (T1005)

***********

I think you missed my point, Cth.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:35 PM (ojnk6)

308 Stole my gun and stuck'it WHERE!?

Posted by: and irresolute at April 23, 2014 11:35 PM (RqHWH)

309 Good night again. I could not tear myself away.

Love you all. Take care.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 11:35 PM (V70Uh)

310
obama's judgement day will be...interesting.

I cannot and should not judge obama's soul but I can imagine how his judgement day will go.

But, but, but, I gave millions of people free health care!

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:36 PM (SlZiq)

311 James 2:17-Faith without works is dead.


We can't earn our way into heaven by serving and obeying God, but such works show our commitment to Christ and that we believe God is real. They are a verification of our faith.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 11:37 PM (XyM/Y)

312 ont is finished?

Posted by: fargo bob at April 23, 2014 11:37 PM (BbHYt)

313 Good Night, Grampa Jimbo.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 11:38 PM (lq3Ak)

314 I will repeat what I have said here before. Depression and despondency can become black holes from which one can not spontaneously escape. Occasionally it occurs rapidly. Sometimes it happens to someone we know, with no external evidence. It is one thing to have the blues, or feel a little hopeless, it is quite another to be in the grips of something that is stronger than you are.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:38 PM (aDwsi)

315 I think posts like these are fun because I see how many stories I know before clicking the pics.

The Muslim teen-in-the-cockpit is horrific -- this may have been a dry run for terror and even if not -- it is NOW. The whole world saw how weak our airports are.

The MH370 story du jour -- of course it's not the wreckage! They're looking in the completely wrong place. But I love how the MSM and even Fox breathlessly reported this today whereas the Halon bottle found in the Maldives WEEKS ago gets *crickets*.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 23, 2014 11:38 PM (KL49F)

316
James 2: 14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:38 PM (SlZiq)

317 "Also, regarding Catholicism and Holy Eucharist. I don't believe that
politicians like Pelosi, who openly promote abortion, should be going to
communion. And her describing late-term abortions as 'sacred ground' is
grotesque."

On the day that the Pope publicly excommunicates Pelosi and her ilk and says that they'll be denied the Kingdom of Heaven unless they recant -- on that day, I'll walk into my local parish and begin the process of becoming a Catholic.

Of course, if the Mormons expel Dingy Hairy first, well, here I come, LDS.

Hoping that the Catholics get there first. Giving up on Val-U-Rite would be tough.

Sadly, I doubt that either lot have the spine any longer to stand up forcefully for their professed doctrines.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 23, 2014 11:39 PM (noWW6)

318 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2014 11:35 PM (a26oX)

Sounds like St. John Of the Cross

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 11:39 PM (XyM/Y)

319
ah, you beat me to it, Miss Spoke

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:39 PM (SlZiq)

320 Gah, I feel like crap and rehashing this is not helping. Time to try to sleep.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 23, 2014 11:39 PM (QnqoN)

321 I was chased out of church by an abusive Youth Pastor. He used Allinsky like tactics to isolate me and freeze me out. It was effective. I don't know how a 15 / 16 year old kid could be a threat to an adult in a leadership position, but I guess I was.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 23, 2014 11:40 PM (jucos)

322 And you never fail?


No. I fail all of the time. And I realize that. I make amends for it. I don't forget God's rules even if I break them. I know I've done it and I beat myself up over it. As a human I am not perfect, none of us are. I hate judging others as if I am perfect and they are the flawed one. God knows better and I know that too.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:40 PM (3oRDB)

323 FenelonSpoke I think that was the name. Thanks.

Night Bebes, hope you get to feeling better.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2014 11:40 PM (a26oX)

324 Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2014 11:29 PM (mx5oN)

You clearly have some strong and convincing feelings about the subject and I was not trying to be critical but to see if I could point you in a different direction.

Being angry at God is like be mad at the dirt. The weather is weather and God is God.

We have little to say or ability to influence the composition of the Earth. Likewise we have even less influence with God.

We are taught to pray to God because prayer can sooth the heart and focus the mind. But prayer is not a magic spell or an order form. Prayer is meant to focus our attention on those things that we would want to happen or to aid those we love.

And as it has been said, sometimes the answer to our prayers is; NO.

As I said above we can never know the reasons behind Gods actions. Feel free to say whatever you wish. Perhaps talking about it will help you understand what you feel and cause you to reevaluate your judgment. Whatever you wish.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:41 PM (JS0vr)

325 Heh. Just got an email from William's Brewing:



"We took a little gamble a while back and ordered high quality beer soap made with several different craft beers. We thought, home brewers might buy these, because they are made with the beer they like to drink, and they are of the highest natural quality.

Turns out we were wrong, home brewers do not buy soap. As a result, save 40% on all our remaining stock (you must order 2 or more mix or match to get the discount). While supplies last."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 11:41 PM (T1005)

326 "he has the kind of neighbor that would blow the leaves off his yard,
then carefully blow them across the street so that they'd be in the road
of his across-the-street neighbor."

I clean up leaves with a shop vac.

It's not any more noisy than a leaf blower, and it does not redistribute the mess.

Also: it's like a flippin' video game when the termite queens take wing. Zap!

Posted by: torquewrench at April 23, 2014 11:42 PM (noWW6)

327 Jimmy Fallon telling depressed panda jokes: What's black and white and really depressed?

Barack Obama after he sees his poll numbers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 11:43 PM (DmNpO)

328 I went through a suicidal streak when I was younger. I didn't succumb to it, and now I look down on people who do succumb. Because I realize what all the people I care about would've gone through if I had succumbed to it.

So, yes, I do look down on people who commit suicide. Because they're assholes who don't give a shit what their loved ones go through as a result.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:44 PM (/96QU)

329 Did I accidentally wander onto Free Republic again? What the Hell?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:44 PM (3oRDB)

330 cthulhu - So, 'Belly up to the bar' takes on a new meaning?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:44 PM (aDwsi)

331 101
Yeah I got a weakness for the young skinny ones.

You and every other man in the world. Except me; I like 'em thick and curvy.
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 10:23 PM (SlZiq)

How you doin'?

Posted by: Chique at April 23, 2014 11:45 PM (r+7wo)

332 PW please tell me you don't volunteer for a Suicide Crisis line...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2014 11:45 PM (a26oX)

333 Today was really stressful, until it wasn't.
God always comes through for me, and a lot of the time the answer is no!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at April 23, 2014 11:45 PM (VgMBx)

334
What's so hard about being a good neighbor and controlling the amount of time your barking dog can bother people? It starts, bring it inside. How hard is that? No need to be an asshole and threaten x10 retaliation when you ought to be in more control of the situation in the first place.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:27 PM (ojnk6)
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I'm in control of my situation. My pet is not a nuisance.
I have those bothersome neighbors that won't control their pets, but I'm not going to shoot it with my pellet gun.
Look - I don't even like cats. I HATE that it's accepted to let cats roam to shit in my flowerbeds & use my birdfeeders as a hunting ground. Am I going to shoot the thing? No.

Then again, I'm not bragging about how cool it is to shoot my neighbors pet for walking into the garage that I left open,
now am I?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 11:45 PM (HXQvh)

335
woohoo!

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:46 PM (SlZiq)

336 Did I accidentally wander onto Free Republic again? What the Hell?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:44 PM (3oRDB)

*********

Starting to feel that way. Not sure why this happened, but would rather see us go back to what made the site great. All of 2 days ago.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:47 PM (ojnk6)

337 shoot, shovel, shutup

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:47 PM (JS0vr)

338 Time for the old folk. You young ones make me smile griping about getting old.



Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 23, 2014 11:47 PM (SAMxH)

339 Turns out we were wrong, home brewers do not buy soap)))

So most home brewers are French?

Posted by: Dendritic at April 23, 2014 11:48 PM (75hfB)

340 I would suggest they play that Avril Lavigne song at Gitmo but the song is a real war crime.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2014 11:48 PM (a26oX)

341 Angst...., I sense angst.
Theory: We're allowing the Left/Liberal/Progressive/Secularists to infect us with stress.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:48 PM (aDwsi)

342 'Night IG

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:48 PM (aDwsi)

343 Jimmy Fallon telling depressed panda jokes: What's black and white and really depressed?

Barack Obama after he sees his poll numbers.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 11:43 PM (DmNpO)

********

Wow, he realizes very early on that his pandering to the Leftists was not getting him ratings, apparently.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:49 PM (ojnk6)

344 The pet shooting brags were kind of off- putting. A charging pit bull, an alarming snow of aggression from another cat or dog...that's one thing. A yipper who touches your yard? maybe not. I think not.

Posted by: SarahW at April 23, 2014 11:49 PM (Lbv/k)

345 #332: I don't. So, don't worry; suicidal people will not be exposed to my views on the subject, even though I think they'd benefit from it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:50 PM (/96QU)

346 A friend of mine committed suicide several years
ago, and I'd punch him in the mouth for it if he were here in front of
me right now.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:28 PM (/96QU)


I must have attended an easy dozen or so people's/freind's funerals over the years that killed themselves. 2 of them were brothers that killed themselves years apart from each other. Another shot himself in the head with a .22 while on the phone with his sister who had to hear him suddenly change his mind as he was dying. Another few hung or gassed themselves over chicks, and on and on. I'm fucking numb to it, just seen too much of it. Every one left a fucking mess in their wake.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 23, 2014 11:50 PM (FMbng)

347 If you are depressed for a long time or repeatedly it changes your brain chemistry and your thinking. It messes with your serotonin level. Serotonin is what wakes you feel content or if you will, happy. It is not a question, IMO, of being an ass****. Your blackened thinking make you think that people would be better off without you. It's not logical. It's a disease.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 11:51 PM (XyM/Y)

348 I'm doing spring cleanup and also using a shop vac -- although I've been dumping into the greenwaste bin, so I actually purged the vac first.



And, yes, I saw Penn + Teller's excellent expose of multi-bin garbage pickup.....but I also rototilled 6" of composted yard clippings into my backyard when we initially bought the house. It was the quickest and cheapest way to start turning the slimy sticky and/or brick-hard adobe clay into something you could do something with.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2014 11:51 PM (T1005)

349 On understanding suicide:

People routinely form "identities": a father, a good worker, an American, someone who always gets good grades, very religious, and so on and so forth.

When our instincts protect these identities, we feel emotions.

Mostly these identity-facets coexist without trouble, even if they don't quite line up all of the time (my advice as a friend might not be the same as my advice as a father).

But occasionally, two deeply held identities become so opposed that they cannot both be maintained.

I believe that some people, when faced with the apparent irretrievable loss (read: death) of a major identity facet, choose to extend that loss to the real world as the only perceptible alternative to walking around "dead inside."

This is why friends and family can't always see it coming: there can be internal tensions that we have entirely missed, because we so rarely see all aspects of another person at once.

That's my take, anyway.

Whatever the cause, my heartfelt condolences to those of you who have had close brushes with suicide.

Posted by: Piercello at April 23, 2014 11:51 PM (jJ97i)

350 Then again, I'm not bragging about how cool it is to shoot my neighbors pet for walking into the garage that I left open,
now am I?
Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 11:45 PM (HXQvh)

*********
Don't believe I bragged about anything. Just described a situation. The cat is still alive and well.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:51 PM (ojnk6)

351 And if the lack of oxygen or freezing temps don't kill them, when the wheel well opens and they fall it does.

That happened up here a few years ago. Guy who lived on the approach to Logan found what was left of him on his lawn. Took the cops a few days to figure out what happened

Posted by: tu3031 at April 23, 2014 11:52 PM (yagOO)

352 *ring ring*

PW: Suicide hot line

Caller: yeah I'm thinking of killing myself. Maybe hanging or pills.

PW: what a pussy! Step out in front of a bus so your family can collect some insurance money you dork. How inconsiderate of you.

Caller: what? what? I'm depressed and think my life's not worth living and you tell me I'm a pussy. Well Fcuk you you prick *slams phone*

PW: Heh another one bites the dust.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:53 PM (JS0vr)

353 I think there are people who takes their lives without thinking much about it-It's an impulse reaction. I have seen this with youngish people and sometimes it's fueled by drugs. That is different than chronic depression.

And yes, it always leave a mess in its wake.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 11:53 PM (XyM/Y)

354 I be very angry if bite into pellet!

Posted by: Chinese Chef at April 23, 2014 11:53 PM (PAplM)

355 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:51 PM (ojnk6)

Just has a strange aversion to open garage doors and is a little twitchy.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:54 PM (JS0vr)

356 If I was this giraffe I think I would be worried.

http://tinyurl.com/lv7dkcq

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2014 11:54 PM (a26oX)

357 Wow, he realizes very early on that his pandering to the Leftists was not getting him ratings, apparently.

***

This is the first time I've watched him since he took over for Leno and I'd bet money he has been watching video of Carson. During his monologue I recognized several of Carson's mannerisms.

Fallon's not stupid and he's got a really good thing going with this gig. Perhaps he's growing up enough to realize that he's entitled to his own biases, but that they are best left off the stage.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 11:54 PM (DmNpO)

358 Respect Mah Authoritah!!!!

NC deputy goes berserk, snatches phones from family after recording proves she ‘lied’

http://tinyurl.com/kad2myu

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 11:55 PM (aTXUx)

359 cthulhu - I bag my grass clippings, put them on the garden as mulch. I do the same thing with leaves in the fall. Run the mower over them, bag the output, dump it on the garden.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:55 PM (aDwsi)

360 And, yes, I saw Penn + Teller's excellent expose of multi-bin garbage pickup..

***

It was incredible how far they could push folks before they finally said "enough".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 11:55 PM (DmNpO)

361 #352: Actually, I'd try to get across to him how much it'd hurt his loved ones if he went through with it. I certainly don't think they'd take the insurance money over having him continue to be around.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:55 PM (/96QU)

362 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 23, 2014 11:50 PM (FMbng)

You're just a ray of fcuking sunshine aren't you?

Is there a thunder cloud or a guy in black robe follows you around?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:55 PM (JS0vr)

363 Just has a strange aversion to open garage doors and is a little twitchy.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:54 PM (JS0vr)

********

Kinda goes back to the owner control thing I mentioned earlier.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 23, 2014 11:56 PM (ojnk6)

364 @270 And actually, we can't be sure that anybody, even Judas got an automatic trip because we don't know if they repented at the last second.
-------------------

Well, Paul did call Judas a "Son of Perdition" in one of his letters. That doesn't speak well of the latter's ultimate fate. However, you're essentially correct. It's God's job to judge those who have died. We can always second guess, but only God knows all of the circumstances that were involved.

Posted by: junior at April 23, 2014 11:56 PM (Yxwtc)

365 "So, don't worry; suicidal people will not be exposed to my views on the subject, even though I think they'd benefit from it."
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:50 PM (/96QU)

Okay. We get it. I personally get it. I know how you feel, but I can't condone it.

Thank you for your opinion, because you are correct some-of-the-time.

Let the scab cover-over, lest it become an infection.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 11:56 PM (lq3Ak)

366 PW: that was just a joke. Riffing on what Anna asked.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:57 PM (JS0vr)

367 In light of what happened with a fellow Moron, maybe we shouldn't make light of suicide since a few ONT regulars were his friends

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 11:58 PM (aTXUx)

368 "I'm doing spring cleanup and also using a shop vac -- although I've been
dumping into the greenwaste bin, so I actually purged the vac first."

The missus insists that I sterilize the shop vac canister to surgical operating room standards before picking up stuff with the vac that will go in the greenwaste can.

This is such a hassle that I have considered buying a second canister assembly just for that purpose.

Now, though, I'm starting to covet one of those really really powerful industrial excavation vacuums that will lift a bowling ball sized rock on the end of the nozzle.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 23, 2014 11:58 PM (noWW6)

369 *pounds head into keyboard*

I am out of here.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 23, 2014 11:58 PM (a26oX)

370
I think this is a good time to point out that I hate fucking monkeys. Very much.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:58 PM (SlZiq)

371 Nice Boat in this pic

http://tinyurl.com/kx37a5l

Posted by: kbdbear at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (aTXUx)

372 I think this is a good time to point out that I hate fucking monkeys. Very much.

***

Then stop doing it!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (DmNpO)

373 265 Suicide is not a victimless crime. Everyone who gives a shit about the person who killed himself is a victim.

Suicide is a terrible thing that assholes do.



When I contemplated oblivion, what stuck out to me is that it would be a dagger through the heart of all of my family.

Miserable though I felt, I did not hate them that much.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (M9BzG)

374 Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:58 PM (SlZiq)

Then don't fuck them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (JS0vr)

375 370
I think this is a good time to point out that I hate fucking monkeys. Very much.
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:58 PM (SlZiq)

Is that why you keep spanking me?!?

Posted by: Sooth's Monkey at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (QeH9j)

376 Well, fuck it. If I piss somebody off on here? I. Don't. Give. A. Shit. You hear that?


That's what this place is about...........I fucking think anyway???


Somebody please count up all my cuss words and moral transgressions in the above statement so that I can make amends next Sunday.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (3oRDB)

377 290 #279: A friend of mine committed suicide several years ago, and I'd punch him in the mouth for it if he were here in front of me right now.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:28 PM (/96QU)
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I'll second that. I wish I could get into Ace's time machine & go back to shake some sense into a couple friends...
I am tired of dealing with it. Twice in the last two years, I've been a little too close to it. First, no indictation whatsoever.

This last time, i was just too fucking close, and it hit hard. Hard. Brother Cavil, and I think, Bebe's are both (not) talking about the same friend of ours.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (HXQvh)

378 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 11:41 PM (JS0vr)

I'll consider what you've said. Right now is probably not the best time for discussing the whole thing in any event.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 12:00 AM (mx5oN)

379
370 I think this is a good time to point out that I hate fucking monkeys. Very much.
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 23, 2014 11:58 PM (SlZiq)



Maybe you should consider gorillas. They're thicker and have more curves.

Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 12:00 AM (LI48c)

380 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (3oRDB)

42

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:00 AM (JS0vr)

381
Serenity now!

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 12:01 AM (SlZiq)

382 #373: I'm glad you saw it that way, CM, because you're still around to share your wisdom and jokes with us as a result.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 12:01 AM (/96QU)

383 I think this is a good time to point out that I hate fucking monkeys. Very much.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 24, 2014 12:02 AM (DmNpO)

384 @357 This is the first time I've watched him since he took over for Leno and I'd bet money he has been watching video of Carson. During his monologue I recognized several of Carson's mannerisms.
-----------------------

A good idea if he's been doing that. Emulating Leno would get him mocked. But Carson's been gone long enough that he's essentially a "safe" choice for that sort of thing.

Posted by: junior at April 24, 2014 12:02 AM (Yxwtc)

385 ..."That's my take, anyway.

Whatever the cause, my heartfelt condolences to those of you who have had close brushes with suicide.
"
Posted by: Piercello at April 23, 2014 11:51 PM (jJ97i)

That's a reasonable take on the subject. Loss of identity, if shallow*, allows for such a mentality.

Good post.

*I believe a deeper meaning allows most to go on and find other avenues of love. Mental illness negates such introspection through a Higher Power.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:02 AM (lq3Ak)

386 Is this the IHFM support group?

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:02 AM (QeH9j)

387 42


Does that mean I'm fucked or forgiven? Will one of Bible thumpers help a brother out here?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2014 12:03 AM (3oRDB)

388
What did a monkey do to you? You can share it with us.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 24, 2014 12:03 AM (SlZiq)

389 347
If you are depressed for a long time or repeatedly it changes your brain
chemistry and your thinking. It messes with your serotonin level.
Serotonin is what wakes you feel content or if you will, happy. It is
not a question, IMO, of being an ass****. Your blackened thinking make
you think that people would be better off without you. It's not logical.
It's a disease.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 23, 2014 11:51 PM (XyM/Y)
Hide posts from (XyM/Y)



There are many paths to get there, and some of them are neither logical, nor a disease, but more like a cancer of thought -- where the mechanisms that normally keep things going are subtly altered to where feedback loop stops keeping you on an even keel, and -- instead -- they drag you slowly away from light, hope, friends, and the future. But it's still horribly recognizable as the same mental feedback loop that everyone has -- just like cancer cells are still mostly the patient's human cells, with normal human-cell plumbing and wiring, with just the subtle twist of continually demanding more resources.



I believe that the saying "There, but for the Grace of God, go I" applies.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 12:03 AM (T1005)

390 "Maybe you should consider gorillas. They're thicker and have more curves."
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2014 12:00 AM (LI48c)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:03 AM (lq3Ak)

391 The over sensitive are bombarded with cruelty and horror every moment of every day in some way. They become basket cases if they can't back off.

The under sensitive wind up being shunned or ignored perhaps even scapegoated as they seem aloof and cold.

They'll become paranoid maniacs if they don't open up.

Life. It's all about choices and making do with what nature gave you.

Sometimes it's hard to know what to do. But not doing anything is a choice itself.

Fall down, get up, dust off, drive on.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:04 AM (JS0vr)

392 This last time, i was just too fucking close, and it hit hard. Hard. Brother Cavil, and I think, Bebe's are both (not) talking about the same friend of ours.

Yeah. It was a punch in the gut. Especially remembering the previous close call where he stepped back from the brink.

Even with the best of care, it takes its toll and claims its prey. And for the rest of us, it hurts like hell. But I can't blame a sick man for dying from his disease. Even this way. Probably what makes it harder.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 24, 2014 12:04 AM (m9V0o)

393 371
Motorboatin

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V0O0nzkESTI

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:05 AM (75hfB)

394 Show us on the doll where the bad monkey touched you.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:05 AM (JS0vr)

395 Thanks, Slap.

Posted by: Piercello at April 24, 2014 12:05 AM (jJ97i)

396 Rev. Chloe Breyer will be the first in a burkha or up against a wall.

Jihad is an inner struggle to do good.

Go. Fuck. Yourself.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:05 AM (QeH9j)

397 I think this is a good time to point out that I hate fucking monkeys. Very much.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 24, 2014 12:02 AM (DmNpO)

***********

"Show us ln the stuffed animal where the monkey touched you".

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 12:05 AM (ojnk6)

398 We don't know the state of their conscience.
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 23, 2014 11:02 PM (ynL/v)


And mercy. One often forgets that. We rely daily upon the mercy of God, else we could not live at all.


The beauty of Catholicism often comes to light when one finds a way to make a confession more often than not, by which I mean weekly or so. Once people realize how beautiful the mercy and forgiveness of God can be, and how amazing it is to receive His body and blood without stain, a lot of the personal misbehavior of people in the Church starts to fade. Even if the priest is a dick, and there are a few, the forgiveness isn't hampered, nor is the Communion.


Of course, if you need to put down roadblocks to confession in order to satisfy your pride or for some other reason, then it will be hard to get to that point. I do that, and I hate it. Much better when I remember to get my knees in the box.

Posted by: tcn at April 24, 2014 12:06 AM (lp+pe)

399 Ask a cop. Everybody wants to confess their sins.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:07 AM (JS0vr)

400 For the love of gah, will someone please send a PR rep to the Bundy Ranch?!

http://t.co/tVUoUZYBEN

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 24, 2014 12:07 AM (DmNpO)

401 "Does that mean I'm fucked or forgiven? Will one of Bible thumpers help a brother out here?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2014 12:03 AM (3oRDB)

You're fine...lol. I'm not a "Bible-Thumper", so there may be another answer.

I still love you... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:07 AM (lq3Ak)

402 Not a fan of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:08 AM (JS0vr)

403 377
290#279: A friend of mine committed suicide several years ago, and I'd
punch him in the mouth for it if he were here in front of me right now.



Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:28 PM (/96QU)

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I'll second that. I wish I could get into Ace's time machine go back to shake some sense into a couple friends...

I am tired of dealing with it. Twice in the last two years, I've
been a little too close to it. First, no indictation whatsoever.



This last time, i was just too fucking close, and it hit hard. Hard.
Brother Cavil, and I think, Bebe's are both (not) talking about the
same friend of ours.

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I'm pretty sure that Bebe is not talking about Joffen.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 12:08 AM (T1005)

404 "Thanks, Slap."
Posted by: Piercello at April 24, 2014 12:05 AM (jJ97i)

You're welcome. It was a darned-good post.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:09 AM (lq3Ak)

405 Now, though, I'm starting to covet one of those really really powerful industrial excavation vacuums that will lift a bowling ball sized rock on the end of the nozzle.

Posted by: torquewrench
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I had a killer Craftsman lawn vac. I used vinyl lettering and named it 'Monica'. Lib neighbor borrowed it, and actually *complained* when he returned it. Didn't see the humor.
One of these,
http://www.precious-people.com/auctions/18373a.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:09 AM (aDwsi)

406 I also sort of think suicidal people aren't inclined to listen to reason, so emotional arguments against suicide are probably more likely to get traction with them.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 12:09 AM (/96QU)

407 You might be more likely to get a response if you didn't call people "bible thumpers". I'm not a Bible thumper. I'm a Christian.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 12:09 AM (XyM/Y)

408 NDH, it's the NYT.

Since they don't quote him, do you really think they're accurately stating what he actually said?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:10 AM (JS0vr)

409 "Does that mean I'm fucked or forgiven? Will one of Bible thumpers help a brother out here?"

If you're trying, there's always divine Grace.

You know...the true Hope.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 24, 2014 12:10 AM (m9V0o)

410 386
Is this the IHFM support group?

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:02 AM (QeH9j)
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That's two doors down -- but don't go three doors, because that's "Getting Hit on the Head" lessons.

Posted by: Helpful Advice Department at April 24, 2014 12:10 AM (T1005)

411 382 #373: I'm glad you saw it that way, CM, because you're still around to share your wisdom and jokes with us as a result.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 12:01 AM (/96QU)



Never got close to action. Love has a gravitational pull in an opposite direction.

Does inform what I think I'd say to someone on the edge. God have mercy on us.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 12:10 AM (M9BzG)

412 "So, yes, I do look down on people who commit suicide. Because they're
assholes who don't give a shit what their loved ones go through as a
result."

Just to throw a marker down:

I've been privately amazed at the proportion of the Horde who admit to carrying around depression, or at least having done so at some point in their lives. Not least the Boss Ewok.

But, perhaps unsurprising. In light of research showing that depressives actually tend to have the most accurate perception of what's going on in the real world. The mass of non-depressive humanity see the world through a gauzy veil of self-protective illusions and deceptions.

When depression reaches truly grand mal stages, however, individuals become incapable of accurately gauging the effect on the larger world of their own actions. A truly badly off depressive individual will actually figure their suicide to be a net positive and helpful thing for their loved ones.

In that circumstance, for a depressive, it's inaccurate to speak of them as being an asshole who doesn't care about the loss of their person hurting their family.

Just as though a blind person not being able to see their family's faces is not being an asshole, or a deaf person being unable to hear their voices is not being an asshole. It's a physiological condition beyond conscious correction.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (noWW6)

413 That's two doors down -- but don't go three doors, because that's "Getting Hit on the Head" lessons.

Posted by: Helpful
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I was looking for 'Arguments'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (aDwsi)

414 Don't worry, they're just doing "drills":

Russia says conducting military drill near Ukraine

http://tinyurl.com/nyrvkgc

Posted by: Thrawn at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (WlWt+)

415 Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (noWW6)

If you're not depressed, you're not paying attention.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:12 AM (JS0vr)

416 Yeah. It was a punch in the gut. Especially remembering the previous close call where he stepped back from the brink.



Even with the best of care, it takes its toll and claims its prey.
And for the rest of us, it hurts like hell. But I can't blame a sick
man for dying from his disease. Even this way. Probably what makes it
harder.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 24, 2014 12:04 AM (m9V0o)

The previous one was very close. I called a friend who actually came on that night to tell her story of finding her own father after he killed himself when she was 12 years old. She laid it all out about how it haunted her for years, and how it tormented her thinking how could he leave her, and etc etc. She painted a pretty clear picture of what the daughter would go through had he gone through with it. In the end it happened anyway, it does eventually take it's toll.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 12:12 AM (FMbng)

417 And I hope that didn't sound nasty. It wasn't intended to be. I just don't know any Christian who likes the term Bible thumper as it's usually used by leftists who also talk about the "big daddy in the sky"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 12:12 AM (XyM/Y)

418 So, yes, I do look down on people who commit suicide. Because they're assholes who don't give a shit what their loved ones go through as a result.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2014 11:44 PM (/96QU)


Has it occurred to you that they CAN'T give a shit?


Don't go preaching about your holier than thou depressive episode. You had the blues. Those of us who have been to the darkest depths can see your little self-hate rant for what it is. You fear dropping that low, but you never did. You haven't a clue of what it is like, so maybe you should take your pontificating and jump off the dock.

Posted by: tcn at April 24, 2014 12:14 AM (lp+pe)

419 Since they don't quote him, do you really think they're accurately stating what he actually said?

***

Uh. He IS quoted.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 24, 2014 12:14 AM (DmNpO)

420 I still love you... lol.


Not in a gay, God-hating way I hope. GOD HELP YOUR SOUL!


Help us Both. Help us All.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2014 12:14 AM (3oRDB)

421 "I'm glad you saw it that way, CM, because you're still around to share your wisdom and jokes with us as a result."
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 12:01 AM (/96QU)

The same goes for you, Prothonotary. Whatever your scars, we'll deal with them.

I merely post my opinion. It is not supposed to be used as a substitute for your own good judgement, Sir!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:15 AM (lq3Ak)

422 Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (noWW6)

Thanks. You said much more articulately what I was getting at in an earlier post about people thinking that people would be better off without them. when that's not true and their own blackened thinking.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 12:15 AM (XyM/Y)

423 It's a physiological condition beyond conscious correction.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (noWW6)

Okay, you said it much nicer than I did. Touched a nerve.

Posted by: tcn at April 24, 2014 12:15 AM (lp+pe)

424 OK, Show time. My Dad committed suicide, but not in any kind of conventional manner. He reached top Salesperson in his company, a life long goal. After that, he let his health go to hell as he had already climbed the mountain, in his view. He was a diagnosed manic-depressive, (now called bipolar). The whole family got to watch a two year long slow motion train wreck until his heart gave out. So, I don't hate those with those tendencies. I feel sorry for them and their families.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 12:15 AM (ojnk6)

425 When I contemplated oblivion, what stuck out to me is that it would be a dagger through the heart of all of my family.

Miserable though I felt, I did not hate them that much.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 23, 2014 11:59 PM (M9BzG)


Family was key for me. I couldn't put them through that. Ex's younger brother did it in high school and the family is still hurt by it.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:15 AM (QeH9j)

426 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 12:12 AM (XyM/Y)

Well usually it's being said by some Lucifer infected Atheist gleefully pissing all over religion.

So it's understandable how you could be sensitized to the phrase.

Me, I laugh cause I've seen some big Bibles in my time and if you ever got thumped with one, you'd be upset too.

The power of the word of the Lord compels you.

(to quit being an asshole) heh.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:16 AM (JS0vr)

427 I've been privately amazed at the proportion of the Horde who admit to carrying around depression,)))

My oldest brother committed suicide. I have had my dark days where I contemplated that out. I'm still here partially because I saw close up what it does to family. I may have hated myself but I still loved them.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:17 AM (75hfB)

428 Good evening Horde! I'm feeling a little adrift tonight, but it shall pass. Also, a little weirded out seeing so many slick sleeves in that 82ndAB pic.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 12:17 AM (vn9w4)

429 405
Now, though, I'm starting to covet one of those really really powerful
industrial excavation vacuums that will lift a bowling ball sized rock
on the end of the nozzle.



Posted by: torquewrench

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I had a killer Craftsman lawn vac. I used vinyl lettering and named
it 'Monica'. Lib neighbor borrowed it, and actually *complained* when he
returned it. Didn't see the humor.

One of these,

http://www.precious-people.com/auctions/18373a.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:09 AM (aDwsi)
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Ooooooh, nice. I didn't know Craftsman had ever made one of those.



I'll tell you what is a complete pain in the ass except using a vacuum -- when camellias dump their spent blossoms and stuff into a bed of baby's tears. You can root around forever with your hands and you'll likely only find stuff after it's half-rotted and slimy, rakes tear everything up, using a leafblower only pushes stuff in deeper.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 12:18 AM (T1005)

430
I was looking for 'Arguments'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (aDwsi)

We have 9mm v. .45

Is racking a shotgung a deterrent?

Reliability of AR v. Ak.

Tomorrow is crossbow v. Longbow in the main hall.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:18 AM (QeH9j)

431 Well usually it's being said by some Lucifer infected Atheist gleefully pissing all over religion.

LOL. I appreciate that, I needed to laugh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 12:19 AM (XyM/Y)

432 This long post conveniently broken up into readable bite sizes as if I'd been commenting all along...

___

"Intentionally Crashed Into the Far Side of the Moon"

would have been a big hit for the Bee Sharps, if Rock 'n' Roll hadn't taken off that week.

___

Motorboarding... Mae West... I don't get it.

http://torontofilmsociety.org/files/2013/11/She-Done-Him-Wrong-3.jpg

____

Heart goes out to Jinx. And all those similarly hurt.

Many, many moving, thoughtful, thought-provoking, considerate (and communing) comments I've just enjoyed lurking through. Who are you people and what have you done with the Horde?

____

Speaking of who are you people (subtle contextual segue!), we just watched the next-to-last episode of Eureka tonight. It's been a fun series. I think the last multi-year tv series I actually watched to the end must have been Farscape.

____

Mindful Webworks goes all-in for the Clinton-Bush UniParty ticket in 2016. Download your posters now! (cliikity ze niikity)

___

I sure hope I closed all the tags. I did an open-strike/close-italic followed by an open-strike/close-boldface (it was the small screen's autoincorrect, really! plus bad editing, but mostly.. okay) and Pixy only put in one close-strike (checked the HTML), proving my theory that The Pixy Tag Closing Software Patch™ is defeated by double-opening tags. Fixed in #twoweeks.

___

And let me warn everyone, should you ever find yourself in the barrel, and wonder about that hatch in the floor? Do not open and by all that's holy, do not climb down!!! I will recover. Someday. Probably.
___


Back to the cell. Good night, Gracies.

Posted by: mindful webworker is gone again at April 24, 2014 12:19 AM (U13jb)

433 Anyway, fuck, out. Yeah, I said "fuck." I hope Jesus punishes me for that tomorrow. And for also owning a Government Motors vehicle, fuck me. Maybe God can refund my money. We'll see.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2014 12:20 AM (3oRDB)

434 Had to go out and get a white shirt, the one I had turned yellow in the closet. Had to go get a new suit today too, the ones I had shrank in the closet. Must have a steam leak in there or something...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 12:20 AM (yh0zB)

435 427 I've been privately amazed at the proportion of the Horde who admit to carrying around depression,)))

My oldest brother committed suicide. I have had my dark days where I contemplated that out. I'm still here partially because I saw close up what it does to family. I may have hated myself but I still loved them.
Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:17 AM (75hfB)

If you can't admit it to pixel people then you'll have some rough times.

AoSHQ should charge for cathartic therapy.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:20 AM (QeH9j)

436 "Not in a gay, God-hating way I hope. GOD HELP YOUR SOUL!
Help us Both. Help us All.
"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2014 12:14 AM (3oRDB)

You think I opened a tanning salon at age 24 because I was teh ghey? LOL.

I was "Hot-Chick Curious". I "experimented" with strippers because I was young.

...and stupid.

...and I didn't have 'crabs' yet.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:20 AM (lq3Ak)

437 Don't worry, they're just doing "drills":





Posted by: Thrawn at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (WlWt+)


Well, that's what you do in preparation for war.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 12:21 AM (vn9w4)

438 If Hillary gets to be prez she's gonna hafta wash that hair once in awhile.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 24, 2014 12:21 AM (4Chvm)

439 Hmm. Well, this got morose in a hurry. What do do...

Ah, yes, this:

/launches trebuchet load of sugar gliders

...and with that, it's a night. Stay well, Horde...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon/Cetacian hybrid at April 24, 2014 12:22 AM (m9V0o)

440 I was "Hot-Chick Curious".

What did you find?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 12:22 AM (M9BzG)

441 I was looking for 'Arguments'Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (aDwsi) _____________No you weren't.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 24, 2014 12:22 AM (jucos)

442 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 12:20 AM (yh0zB

New job?

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:24 AM (QeH9j)

443 Oh. didn't read that far.

Still, it's odd that some of that's very similar to what was said by the Duck Dynasty guy.

And frankly, I don't believe anything the NYT has to say. I believe they would lie and distort what someone said without a problem with it at all.

So either way. No one who reads that that believes it is his friend anyway and anyone who is a friend understands what he probably meant.

And what he said that might be offensive has nothing to do with what the government tried to do.

Too much pussy footing around. Too much worrying about what some twit in San Jose is going to think.

I'm tired of people being verbally crucified and vilified for being politically incorrect. I'm tired of everyone having to be oh so careful of what they say in case it might get taken the wrong way and taint "our side".

Anyone who's going to be that judgmental wouldn't be on "our side" anyway.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:24 AM (JS0vr)

444 If you can't admit it to pixel people then you'll have some rough times. )))

What does it say about me that I waited till so many others had jumped in the pool first?

( I like to follow my catharsis with a little levity)

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:24 AM (75hfB)

445 cthulhu - That Craftsman that I had comes with a hose that attaches to the round port on the front, so that you can use a 4" hose with it to vacuum. Kinda like:
http://newhavenpower.com/BG_KD612.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:25 AM (aDwsi)

446 Tomorrow is crossbow v. Longbow in the main hall.
Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:18 AM (QeH9j)




Long sword vs. katana at noon

Posted by: fargo bob at April 24, 2014 12:26 AM (BbHYt)

447 When I was around 2 my father suffered a bleeding ulcer, nearly died, and came to the conclusion that the stress and nerves of trying to achieve something wasn't worth it. The decline of our family began.

Of course he came to that particular conclusion because he thought the bleeding ulcer was caused by stress, as everybody else did.

We know different now. Sometimes I marvel how a wrong medical "fact" shaped much of my life.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at April 24, 2014 12:27 AM (LtUE0)

448 444 -- two-thirds of a beast?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 12:27 AM (T1005)

449 I was looking for 'Arguments'Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:11 AM (aDwsi) _____________No you weren't.

Posted by: Truck Monkey
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lol

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:27 AM (aDwsi)

450 ...and I didn't have 'crabs' yet.


Well, shit. Jesus would tell you not to fuck with the crabs. What were you thinking? He been there. He knows what's up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2014 12:27 AM (3oRDB)

451 Okay, that's it. I'm showing my niece the pic of Hillary and telling her that if I ever go out of the house looking like that, either shoot me or commit me.

The NFL football schedule is out. Opening night - Green Bay at Seattle - bring on Fail Mary: The Sequel! Week 3 -Peyton and Friends come to Seattle for a regular season game. Could be fun! Thanksgiving night: Seattle/SanFran. Me likely!
(I be a Seahawk fan, circa 1976-the present)

But Russell Wilson is getting a divorce. Damn.

Posted by: dwagyak at April 24, 2014 12:28 AM (nVGST)

452 "What did you find?"
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 12:22 AM (M9BzG)

That sixteen and seventeen-year-olds are "curious", but if you want to stay open, as a business?

N.O. -W.A.Y. -P.L.A.U.S.I.B.L.E. PERIOD. "Coy" and "ignorant" are your best bet.

-Strippers are "easy".

-Ego fades.

-Beakers crack under high heat.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:29 AM (lq3Ak)

453 444 If you can't admit it to pixel people then you'll have some rough times. )))

What does it say about me that I waited till so many others had jumped in the pool first?

( I like to follow my catharsis with a little levity)
Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:24 AM (75hfB)

I wasn't saying 'you' specifically. Just generally. It took me forever to open up to real live people about stuff. Talking to 'strangers' helped push that along.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:29 AM (QeH9j)

454 444 -- two-thirds of a beast?)))

I was told there would be no math on this blog.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:29 AM (75hfB)

455 I argue against suicide in such judgmental terms in large part because I think such arguments would've been more effective on me when I was struggling with suicidal urges, myself.

Because nobody uses such arguments, generally speaking, it took having one friend attempt suicide and then another friend succeed at it for me to realize just how much suicide sucks for loved ones of the perpetrator.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 12:30 AM (/96QU)

456 It's actually 999 people.

ST. John was looking at it upside down!!!1!1!!!!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:30 AM (JS0vr)

457 "Well, shit. Jesus would tell you not to fuck with the crabs. What were you thinking? He been there. He knows what's up."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2014 12:27 AM (3oRDB)

I don't remember provoking you. If I did, I apologize.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:31 AM (lq3Ak)

458 445
cthulhu - That Craftsman that I had comes with a hose that attaches to
the round port on the front, so that you can use a 4" hose with it to
vacuum. Kinda like:

http://newhavenpower.com/BG_KD612.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:25 AM (aDwsi)
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You know that's probably illegal in California, don't you?



I'm still covered in gnat bites from almost two weeks ago, and I need to GTFO of this state so bad.....yeah, other states have bugs, but they don't make you put up orange facades where your bug-screens are going to be three months in advance to allow your neighbors and random-passers-by to object to your design.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 12:31 AM (T1005)

459
Long sword vs. katana at noon

Posted by: fargo bob at April 24, 2014 12:26 AM (BbHYt)


That was cancelled. None of the Longsword support group RSVP'd.



Stir it up

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:31 AM (QeH9j)

460 through the years, now and then, I have wondered about the option of suicide.

Not really seriously but enough to contemplate how I would go about it.

The thing that has kept me from it was a comment by a guy in the '60's who told me that if I kept my attitude, I was going to commit suicide before I was 40.

Now I didn't change my attitude (asshole with pretentions of smarm) but I did remember the comment and whenever I'd think about suicide I always came down on the side of "I'm not gonna let that bastard be right".

So even though I'm way beyond 40, I'm still not gonna let that bastard be right.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:35 AM (JS0vr)

461 New job?

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:24 AM (QeH9j)



Unfortunately no, and regrettably it ties into this thread...funeral tomorrow, but not a suicide. A young man of 22, cut down in his prime.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 12:36 AM (yh0zB)

462 So even though I'm way beyond 40, I'm still not gonna let that bastard be right.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:35 AM (JS0vr)



Never thought about it.

Homicide once or twice, maybe, but never suicide.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 12:38 AM (yh0zB)

463 455 I argue against suicide in such judgmental terms in large part because I think such arguments would've been more effective on me when I was struggling with suicidal urges, myself.


I hope I never have to test this, but I'd like to ask a suicidal person, "How much do you hate me?"

Even for a total stranger - we create connections. And suicide traumatizes all those left behind. It's never just one's own self. "No one cares if you live or die" is a damn lie.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 12:38 AM (M9BzG)

464 438 If Hillary gets to be prez she's gonna hafta wash that hair once in awhile.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 24, 2014 12:21 AM (4Chvm)

She's going to the same groomer as Debbie Whatshername-Schlitz

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 12:39 AM (tNrYO)

465 I wasn't saying 'you' specifically. Just generally. It took me forever to open up to real live people about stuff. Talking to 'strangers' helped push that along.)))

I did not take your comment as an affront just as a way to keep in the conversation. Since I am only slightly less awkward here than with face to face conversations.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:39 AM (75hfB)

466 "I argue against suicide in such judgmental terms in large part because I think such arguments would've been more effective on me when I was struggling with suicidal urges, myself"
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 12:30 AM (/96QU)

That's understandable.

-I'm just glad that you're still around. You're still arguing. You're still aware that others would take your loss as hard as it should be taken.

Keep Kicking Ass!

You're mainly correct that it is "selfish", but "Loss of Self", alongside mental illness is real.

I pray that you continue to call me out for whatever reason.

Without someone calling something I've said into question, I can't re-examine "deep" aspects of my life.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:39 AM (lq3Ak)

467 #463: I completely agree.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 12:39 AM (/96QU)

468 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 12:36 AM (yh0zB)


Sorry. Condolences.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:41 AM (QeH9j)

469 I used to be truculently "it's my body to kill." Then someone I knew committed suicide. One sees and feel the tsunami of emotions that crash against you and everyone around and you realize - no.

I have sworn, officially, solemnly to my husband I would not commit suicide.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at April 24, 2014 12:41 AM (LtUE0)

470 Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:31 AM (QeH9j)

Actually, the medium sword (falchiona, falchion, sabre etc) is actually the most used and favored edged weapon in all of history.

The reason they know this is because it is almost impossible to find examples from ancient times. They have sculptures and paintings that depict them but no examples. Plenty of examples of the big swords and such but it's assumed that because the shorter swords were so versatile, so useful, so valued that they were used until they wore out.

Thus no examples in graves, tombs, barrows, etc. and few examples in old battle fields and such.

I think there's few examples extant of the Roman Spatha for the same reasons.

So suck it Glamdring, Anduril, Narsil et al. The man with the medium sized sword will kick your ass. (mainly because you're outnumbered you dumbass and the fucking swords too heavy)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:41 AM (JS0vr)

471 I always thought that suicide is the last desperate act of a selfish man/woman. I have tempered that a bit having known some people that committed suicide. It truly does ruin the people that are left behind.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 24, 2014 12:42 AM (jucos)

472 Thanks RWC.


And with that, I'd better go get some shut-eye. Funeral is tomorrow at noon in Winston-Salem, two hours from home, so I've got to be up at 8:30.


Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 24, 2014 12:42 AM (yh0zB)

473 After this conversation, I think I'll take the doggeh for a midnight walk to lower my blood pressure (cthulhu - don't fucking panic!).

Remember that I was going to ask a question (WAY back upthread)?
Is this a Freudian Slip? Or just a funny?

I was In the back garage this evening looking for a small box of 1" pin nails for the trim gun. I have my crown stapler, large pin naiiler, all the boxes of 5000 nails that goes with them - but I can't find this little pack of 1000 one inch pin nails. I'd been looking for twenty minutes already.

In frustration, I yell out loud to myself "I know I have a small package!"
I hear laughing from next door - that damn neighbor hasn't been outside since last summer, but he was 30feet away when I shout outs hat shit out. Go figure.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 12:43 AM (QoLTq)

474

I did not take your comment as an affront just as a way to keep in the conversation. Since I am only slightly less awkward here than with face to face conversations.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:39 AM (75hfB)

Going to the NoVaMoMe sober. Talk about awkward!

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:43 AM (QeH9j)

475 but I can't find this little pack of 1000 one inch pin nails. I'd been looking for twenty minutes already.
-----------------

Happens to me all of the time. I've had something on hand for months, maybe years. Time comes to use it, and I can't find it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:46 AM (aDwsi)

476 Not that anyone cares, but it was heartening to see that the vast majority of comments on the Avril Lavigne Hello Kitty basically said: this is not racist, get over yourselves, WTH?

Given that it was an EOnline story, I didn't expect that level of common sense in the comments.

Perhaps people really are getting fed up with everything is rayciss!!!elebenty!! Even non-political folks.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 12:46 AM (r+7wo)

477 Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 12:43 AM (QoLTq)


Heh. Freudian slip or not, it's pretty funny.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 12:46 AM (M9BzG)

478 OH, and one nit pick.

to everyone who says "I've never thought of suicide"?

yes you have and rejected it but you have thought about it.

Just as many other people have. Thought about it and rejected it.

The length of time contemplating does not count, only the final result.

it's like saying I never thought of a pink elephant. there, you just did.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:47 AM (JS0vr)

479 The Bible says suicide is bad.

The Bible also says be carful judging other lest you be judged.

There is no reason to glorify suicide and many reasons to rail against it.

It may be best to rail against it when you are less likely to be doing it in front of someone suffering a recent loss.

I'll let God figure out their punishment just like he will for me.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 12:48 AM (75hfB)

480 "yeah, other states have bugs, but they don't make you put up orange
facades where your bug-screens are going to be three months in advance
to allow your neighbors and random-passers-by to object to your design."

Isn't Commiefornia awesome?

Almost as good as having the CA authorities roaming around with infrared scopes to detect and apprehend people guilty of the heinous crime of... building fires in their fireplaces.

I remember an environmentalist bumper sticker common in NorCal in the 1970s: "Split wood, not atoms."

Well, now you can split as much wood as you want, but if you dare burn so much as a twig worth of it contrary to official dictates, expect for the planetary purity police to be knocking on your door in the name of the greater good.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 12:48 AM (noWW6)

481 Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:46 AM (aDwsi)

I'm still unpacking and/or can't find shit I packed when I moved 8 years ago.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:48 AM (JS0vr)

482 "I know I have a small package!"
---------------------

My elderly mother would occasionally take care of my sister and BIL's little dog if they were traveling. The problem? The dogs name was Bourbon. So, my mother would have to stand out on the front porch, calling the dog. "Bourbon! Bourbon!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:49 AM (aDwsi)

483 "I have sworn, officially, solemnly to my husband I would not commit suicide."
Posted by: Sister Sestina at April 24, 2014 12:41 AM (LtUE0)

The "splash damage" is devastating.

Please don't solely commit to one individual. Commit to all those who are around you.

Betrayal begets betrayal. Commit to other Loved Ones that your Truth is beyond the taking of your own life.

Share the thoughts with your closest relatives and friends.

Find that dedication to "those you don't know", as a font of beauty. Work at the church and feed the indigent, struggling poor.

That is something greater than yourself.

It reinforces your fragile and beloved Humanity.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:49 AM (lq3Ak)

484 Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 12:43 AM (QoLTq)

If you're questioning yelling out 'I have a small package' as being a Freudian slip..

Just drop that comment alone in any thread here and look at the responses.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:49 AM (QeH9j)

485 I'm still unpacking and/or can't find shit I packed when I moved 8 years ago.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger
------------------

17 years..., I've been looking for stuff that was packed up 17 years ago.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:50 AM (aDwsi)

486 jeez

somebody post some pictures of boobs

people cant be mad or sad when confronted with boobs

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 12:50 AM (zOTsN)

487 481 Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:46 AM (aDwsi)

I'm still unpacking and/or can't find shit I packed when I moved 8 years ago.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:48 AM (JS0vr)


Well, you sometimes have those "Wow! I thought I'd lost this!" moments from time to time, right?

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 12:50 AM (tNrYO)

488 My sister was at the Boston conference where Hillary! spoke and, believe it or not, she brought up Bengazhi during her speech (as an example of one of the trials she faced as SecState).

She is completely without shame or even consciousness of fault.

Posted by: MTF at April 24, 2014 12:51 AM (B+HTd)

489 Well, you sometimes have those "Wow! I thought I'd lost this!" moments from time to time, right?

Posted by: model
----------------------

Yeah. Also the "Hmm. I know I bought this for some project. I wonder what it was..?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:52 AM (aDwsi)

490 488 My sister was at the Boston conference where Hillary! spoke and, believe it or not, she brought up Bengazhi during her speech (as an example of one of the trials she faced as SecState).

She is completely without shame or even consciousness of fault.
Posted by: MTF at April 24, 2014 12:51 AM (B+HTd)


She should face a trial for that disaster, that's for sure.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 12:52 AM (tNrYO)

491 I'm out for the night. Here's a song fitting the current topic of discussion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp7svl4l5Dk

Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 12:52 AM (/96QU)

492 I'm a pretty-face man myself.

Any more breast than a handful's a waste in my view.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:52 AM (JS0vr)

493 Ah, shit. Is it Argue About Suicide Day again?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 12:53 AM (ujux6)

494 people cant be mad or sad when confronted with boobs

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 12:50 AM (zOTsN)



Really?

Posted by: Helen Thomas at April 24, 2014 12:53 AM (M9BzG)

495 Yup. About to chime 1 a.m.
Should have been in bed at least an hour ago.

I am out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:54 AM (aDwsi)

496 Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 12:53 AM (ujux6)

You can take the "Pro" side.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:54 AM (JS0vr)

497 486 somebody post some pictures of boobs

people cant be mad or sad when confronted with boobs
Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 12:50 AM (zOTsN)

Done!

http://tinyurl.com/mnuqhgs

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 12:54 AM (ojnk6)

498 I am out.Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:54 AM (aDwsi) ____________________No you're not.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 24, 2014 12:55 AM (jucos)

499 wet t shirt contest

zombie Helen Thomas

Hillary "the bitch of Benghazi" Clinton

Barbara Mikulski

who do you pick and why

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 12:55 AM (zOTsN)

500 that's a bit . . . overwhelming.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:55 AM (JS0vr)

501 Truck - Yes, I am. And still chuckling.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:56 AM (aDwsi)

502 Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 12:55 AM (zOTsN)

RUNAWAY!!!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:56 AM (JS0vr)

503 Anybody checked out that flightradar24.com site? That's some pretty cool stuff there. I knew that there are quite a lot of planes in the sky at any given moment, but seeing it like that is pretty neat.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 12:56 AM (tNrYO)

504 I recently yelled at a friend who is no longer suicidal who said he would commit suicide if there was no chance something he thought was important could happen.

I yelled at him and basically called him a petulant juvenile selfish jerk for even thinking of doing that to his family and those of us who love him. I really did give it to him because he deserved it. He just stared at me and I have no idea if my words made a difference.

I would definitely not take that approach with someone who is depressed and at risk of actually taking his or her life, though.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 12:56 AM (r+7wo)

505 Oh, one more cheery happy floppy fuzzy bunny thought about depression and suicide:

I recall an observation by someone who had spent a few months plumbing the lowest depths one can reach in frank clinical depression.

He said that he was comfortably prepared for death, and contemplating suicide constantly, and would have done so, except that volitional action to do that or anything else was too enormous a burden.

Instead, he simply lay there in bed completely immobile, day after day, in his own body wastes. Waiting and wishing to die of dehydration.

It's a really tough thing to communicate. Not to mention that the majority of the depressives who have submerged that far in the disease don't survive, and hence never come back to the surface to relate their experience.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 12:57 AM (noWW6)

506 My friend knows I love him very dearly though and I am often quite blunt with him. And he's a great guy in so many ways.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 12:58 AM (r+7wo)

507 Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 12:57 AM (noWW6)

That's the "I can't be bothered to work up the effort" school of suicide prevention.

My inertia has probably kept me going. (a little physics humor there)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:58 AM (JS0vr)

508 You can take the "Pro" side.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger


Imma about to stun ya; there is no 'win' in the argument.

***

Is yahoo mail down for anyone else?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 12:58 AM (ujux6)

509 There has bee a lot of loss and contemplation around The Horde recently.

While we may debate aspects of loss, separation from God and the derivatives from; and consequences thereof -?

I still love coming here. It is a thought-provoking zone of influential voices. Thoughtful and provocative.

If it were up to me, I'd talk about baseball 24/7. I don't come here for baseball, obviously.

I'd say, "let's change the atmosphere", but it is not up to me.

That being said?

...I love the Cleveland Indians. Chief Wahoo is here to stay.

Go Tribe!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 12:59 AM (lq3Ak)

510 499 wet t shirt contest

zombie Helen Thomas

Hillary "the bitch of Benghazi" Clinton

Barbara Mikulski

who do you pick and why
Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 12:55 AM (zOTsN)


That should be titled:

The Mudshark vs The Swamp Donkey

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 12:59 AM (tNrYO)

511 ... so.... the topic is Death by Upton?

I could think of worse ways out

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 24, 2014 12:59 AM (30eLQ)

512 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 12:52 AM (JS0vr)

License plate says A55 Man.q

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 12:59 AM (QeH9j)

513 "Is yahoo mail down for anyone else?"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 12:58 AM (ujux6)

Mine is up-and-running.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:00 AM (lq3Ak)

514 But yeah, face is a plus.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:00 AM (QeH9j)

515 Daily Mail Christina Hendricks boobs.

http://tinyurl.com/mv6oown

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 01:00 AM (75hfB)

516 http://tinyurl.com/ma5ejn5

My donation.q

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:02 AM (QeH9j)

517 wet t shirt contest



zombie Helen Thomas



Hillary "the bitch of Benghazi" Clinton



Barbara Mikulski



who do you pick and why

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 12:55 AM (zOTsN)


Zombie helen thomas. By now she is bones and looks like bones, and we're used to bones.Hanging model skeletons in the biology class, the doctors office, pirate skull and cross bone flags, etc Hell, I got a guitar with a skull and cross bones on it. Old horror movies got bones, bones everywhere. We're just just to bones.

But the 2 alive ones in that list? No fucking living oxygen breather is used to seeing that shit in a wet T-shirt.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:02 AM (FMbng)

518 My Yahoo mail was down about half an hour ago, but I see I can log in just now.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 01:02 AM (M9BzG)

519 "My inertia has probably kept me going. (a little physics humor there)"

Hysteresis, motherfucker! Do you speak it?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:02 AM (noWW6)

520 So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and isn't super toned?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo)

521 Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:04 AM (r+7wo)

522 George Clooney and Casino mogul Steve Wynn in a spat. Wynn called Clooney a drunk after Clooney called him an asshole. The daily mail below

The verbal assault between the Oscar-winner and Steve Wynn occurred two weeks ago when Clooney was in Las Vegas promoting his Casamigos tequila. He was invited to dine with Wynn and his wife, Andrea Hissom, at the fancy Botero restaurant inside the 72-year-old's Encore hotel. But when dinner was finished, the conversation turned to Obama's Affordable Care Act, of which Wynn is a vocal opponent. Clooney immediately took exception to how the billionaire chairman and CEO spoke of his 'longtime friend.' He allegedly declared that he didn't have to listen to 'this f***ing stuff' before exiting to another bar. In a statement, Clooney said: 'It had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with character.'

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:04 AM (zOTsN)

523 515
Christina Hendricks looks like a freaking Barbie doll.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:05 AM (ojnk6)

524  So, my mother would have to stand out on the front porch, calling the dog. "Bourbon! Bourbon!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 24, 2014 12:49 AM (aDwsi)
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Heh.
My favorite nickname for the doggeh is "poopstain" - anything close to poopyhead.
imagine my smile when I hear my 76 yr old mom hollering "POOPSTAIN!" at the top of her lungs on the front porch... she doesn't realize that he's been laying on the couch for ten minutes.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 01:05 AM (QoLTq)

525 520 So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and isn't super toned?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo)


I think the answer to that is "Yes."

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 01:06 AM (M9BzG)

526 Mine is up-and-running.

Posted by: Slapweasel

My Yahoo mail was down about half an hour ago, but I see I can log in just now.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster


Frickin' weird - thanks,

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 01:06 AM (ujux6)

527 Dammit.

Here.


http://tinyurl.com/lhvgm5z

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:06 AM (QeH9j)

528 Wynn told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that Clooney likes his alcohol and 'got drunk' after drinking tequila shots.


'When he's drinking, he considers himself a close personal buddy of the president,' the said.


'Clooney's fun to be with when he's sober. If you have a chance to drink with him, you want to get there early, and don't stay late.

'Everybody who's in my business, the casino business, knows to take actors with a grain of salt.'
Wynn added Clooney's partners were 'mortified.'


Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:06 AM (zOTsN)

529 "So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and isn't super toned?"
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo)

HAH! Give me a cute face and a great attitude Every. Single. Time!

I've got long-enough arms to hug the shit* out of a big girl!

...*please don't shit the chair, bed, sofa, love-seat, etc.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:07 AM (lq3Ak)

530 Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo)


Pretty face.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:07 AM (QeH9j)

531 520 So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and isn't super toned?
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo)

I'd say the latter: being super toned sometimes means being an annoying gym rat who eats celery and tofu all the time.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:07 AM (tNrYO)

532 so.... the topic is Death by Upton?

I could think of worse ways out
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 24, 2014 12:59 AM (30eLQ)

*********

I could offer her the best six seconds of my life.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:07 AM (ojnk6)

533 Slapweasel:

I am an introvert's introvert.

Though I have a decent array of acquaintances, none of such a level that I could talk to in such a way.

A couple of friendships but all in dormancy.

One member of the family still alive who could even understand the language I would make such a pledge in, but to be frank, I'm probably worth more to him dead than alive.

This is all fine by me. Like I said, an introvert's introvert.

But the husband is enough. Should he die before me, then we'll talk.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at April 24, 2014 01:07 AM (LtUE0)

534 people cant be mad or sad when confronted with boobs )))

I agree whole heartedly. I laugh and laugh at the boobs Obama sends to deal with me.

Posted by: Putin at April 24, 2014 01:08 AM (75hfB)

535 "I think the answer to that is "Yes.""
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 01:06 AM (M9BzG)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:08 AM (lq3Ak)

536 Remember the Reid brothers from Jesus + Mary Chain?

Just found out there's a Reid sister:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM69ixr9i5w

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 24, 2014 01:08 AM (30eLQ)

537 Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 01:05 AM (QoLTq)

That's funny...I call my bully-dog Fatso McPoopsalot.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:09 AM (tNrYO)

538 Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:06 AM (zOTsN)


Wynn insulted his Tiger Beat centerfold.

Would have love to have seen that.

'i'm good friends with the President.'

Your friend is an asshole.

Love it.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:09 AM (QeH9j)

539 So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and isn't super toned?Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo) ___________________HEY GOOD LOOKIN'. WE'LL BE BACK TO PICK YOU UP LATER!!!

Posted by: Mister Microphone at April 24, 2014 01:09 AM (jucos)

540 So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and isn't super toned? )))

The one that like the word yes more.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 01:10 AM (75hfB)

541 So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a
pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and
isn't super toned?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo)


For marrying, or water sports?
Personally I would take the pretty face and a slightly less than perfect body over a supermodel body with the face of a seahag.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:11 AM (FMbng)

542 Thanks for answering so quickly guys (including those who answer after I post this). I'm curious about the way men's minds work.

True story. I recently put on quite a bit of weight. (i'm not fat, yet , but I am quite a bit more curvy than I used to be). And this is the first time in a while I have not been obsessed about my weight. (i've always liked my body. I just always used to talk and think about my weight.) I'm actually thinking of staying at this weight. Isn't that funny?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:12 AM (r+7wo)

543 Lovely to look at, delightful to know and heaven to kiss.

I don't want much do I?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:13 AM (JS0vr)

544 ..."But the husband is enough. Should he die before me, then we'll talk."
Posted by: Sister Sestina at April 24, 2014 01:07 AM (LtUE0)

Bless you and your husband!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:13 AM (lq3Ak)

545 Personally I would take the pretty face and a slightly less than perfect body over a supermodel body with the face of a seahag.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:11 AM (FMbng)


Matthew Broderick could have used that advice 20 years ago.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:13 AM (QeH9j)

546 I saw a hefty guy in the grocery store awhile back wearing a shirt that said:

I'm in shape...round is a shape.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:13 AM (tNrYO)

547 #520: Just came back to say, the woman's personality makes a big difference in answering that particular question. Now, I know you're a good-looking lady, Chique, because I've seen the pictures. And the personality you've shown in your posts here on top of that seals the deal as far as I'm concerned.

So, yeah, whatever the standard is, you make the cut, in my opinion.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 24, 2014 01:14 AM (/96QU)

548 True story. I recently put on quite a bit of weight. (i'm not fat, yet , but I am quite a bit more curvy than I used to be). And this is the first time in a while I have not been obsessed about my weight. (i've always liked my body. I just always used to talk and think about my weight.) I'm actually thinking of staying at this weight. Isn't that funny?
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:12 AM (r+7wo)

*********

If you're happy with your body, stay with it. IMO.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:15 AM (ojnk6)

549
The personality is key. A woman needs to be able to converse well and bea nice companion. Faces and bodies are less important.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 24, 2014 01:15 AM (jucos)

550 "being super toned sometimes means being an annoying gym rat who eats celery and tofu all the time."

There's a woman I've known for twenty years now, who at the time I first met her was a really intensive exercise addict, to the point where she had burned off all her subcutaneous fat as fuel for running and swimming, and attained a pure gaunt angularity.

Great muscular definition, to be sure. Just not that feminine to my eye.

Fast forward a few years. Desk job, regular travel, expense account meals, had to slack off on the marathoning and the competitive swimming. Her healthy core musculature was still there, but the softer layer above it had come back, and I thought she looked infinitely the better for that.

And, come to think of it, felt better too when hugged. Less skeletal.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:15 AM (noWW6)

551 520 So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and isn't super toned?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo)
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I'll take that at "face value" & assume it's an honest question - without any other qualifiers, I'm going for the pretty, but chubby girl.

That said, what is her attitude like? I'll be 47 in a couple weeks - I learned long ago to cast aside the unimportant, vain, external shit. Is she a moronette?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 01:15 AM (QoLTq)

552 And let's say that the added weight has added some heft for the first time to, ahem, a very desirable area. Nothing spectacular but more heft than I've ever had in that, um, region.

Which I am very pleased with.

And don't bother asking for pics.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:16 AM (r+7wo)

553 "Remember a couple of weeks ago I was raving about Whole Foods"

It's like the weather....some days the smug is thicker than others in there!

Posted by: bill-o at April 24, 2014 01:16 AM (AWwDY)

554 Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:12 AM (r+7wo)

Cute face and personality wins the race. My last significant - everyone commented on how she was not my usual type.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:16 AM (QeH9j)

555 "I'm actually thinking of staying at this weight. Isn't that funny?"
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:12 AM (r+7wo)

*pours Chique a beer*

'sup?

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:17 AM (lq3Ak)

556
And don't bother asking for pics.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:16 AM (r+7wo)

Naw, we got enough.

Posted by: Chip from NSA at April 24, 2014 01:17 AM (QeH9j)

557 463
455 I argue against suicide in such judgmental terms in large part
because I think such arguments would've been more effective on me when I
was struggling with suicidal urges, myself.





I hope I never have to test this, but I'd like to ask a suicidal person, "How much do you hate me?"



Even for a total stranger - we create connections. And suicide
traumatizes all those left behind. It's never just one's own self.
"No one cares if you live or die" is a damn lie.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 12:38 AM (M9BzG)
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"Mad Cow disease" -- aka "Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy" or BSE -- is an extremely dangerous disease that reduces the brain to mush before killing the animal. Interestingly, the infectious agent is a misfolded protein that can cause a chain-reaction of other protein misfoldings.



This is like saying that a misfolded napkin could cause a chain-reaction of napkin misfoldings that could clog the pass-through from the kitchen and ultimately cause a restaurant to fail. There are thousands of different proteins in a cow's body, and probably millions of instances of proteins. The "napkin" protein is normally water-soluble and present in normal cells and is thought to work in transmembrane transport or signaling -- the misfolded type is relatively insoluble in water and tends to clump. Because it's a useful protein, cells will -- as part of their fundamental programming -- produce it naturally as part of their normal function.



Humans, BTW, have he same protein and can get the same disease -- though it's called variant Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease ("vCJD") in humans.



There are many paths that lead to suicide, but one of the most insidious is for the normal functioning of a healthy brain to be turned against the continued existence of the entity. Nobility, honor, love, and reason still work in a perverse way, but it becomes an expression of noble duty to excise oneself from all that one values. That this can easily be mistaken for "normal" is quite natural....because all but the misfolded protein are behaving normally.



But I will also say, as I said to Joffen's sister......do not try to "get inside the mind" of a person who kills themself -- even if you're trying to find what went wrong and keep to the right -- because there is a real danger that you might succeed just as you're swinging from a rope.



Can we have a round of drinks for missing friends and get the hell off this topic? Sure, there's a lot to be said -- it's the nature of mankind -- but there's times and places.......and durations.




Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 01:18 AM (T1005)

558 Thanks for answering so quickly guys (including
those who answer after I post this). I'm curious about the way men's
minds work.



True story. I recently put on quite a bit of weight. (i'm not fat, yet ,
but I am quite a bit more curvy than I used to be). And this is the
first time in a while I have not been obsessed about my weight. (i've
always liked my body. I just always used to talk and think about my
weight.) I'm actually thinking of staying at this weight. Isn't that
funny?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:12 AM (r+7wo)


admit it, you like having the bigger boobs. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:18 AM (FMbng)

559 Füd Review

Jack in the Box
Blazing Chicken Sandwich

F- / Incomplete / Should be a Felony
If you are a slug, snail or other insect susceptible to salt, this sandwich may be 'blazing.' If you are not, you will be severely, severely disappointed. It's the equivalent of a KFC fried chicken sandwich with pickled jalapenos.

It claims to have "Ghost Pepper Ranch sauce." Heat-heads might be lead to think they mean Bhut Jolokia pepper, but the marketing geniuses at Jack Off in the Box really meant 'no pepper what-so-ever.' HAH-HAH, jokes on you, Mr. Customer! < SQUIRT! >

F the sandwich, F Jack, and F everyone involved with the company. The company should be sued and people should be in jail.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 01:19 AM (ujux6)

560 And don't bother asking for pics.

Uh huh. You do know who you're talking to, right?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2014 01:19 AM (M9BzG)

561 Thanks, PW. . You are tres kind.

Shredded chi, no one in particular. I was just curious. Someone mentioned something about a pretty face upthread and that brought the question to mind.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:19 AM (r+7wo)

562 Butter faces can be extremely sexy when they "gots that thang". Can't describe it. It's just a way about them that gets the engines racing. Oh, and don't have psychological problems.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 24, 2014 01:19 AM (ymqyl)

563 Face and personality are key.

But the deal killer is how quick she is with the sammiches!





I kid.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:20 AM (QeH9j)

564 Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:12 AM (r+7wo)

Really? Okay. Here:

We'd hit that. Whatever whoever whenever where ever

that's ALL you need to know.

A few "thank you"s and "would you please"s and we're slaves of devotion.

Don't ask us questions you don't want the answer to.

Don't nag about stuff you know we won't do (or don't want to do)

Don't put YOUR thoughts into our mouths. Listen to exactly what was said.

Always say yes to sex.

Always be honest if we ask if you're mad about something.

and number one thing if you're a woman:

We're not mind readers. Just because we don't know what you're thinking doesn't mean we don't love you. Don't make us guess.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:20 AM (JS0vr)

565 admit it, you like having the bigger boobs. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:18 AM (FMbng)


LOL, indeed. See my later comment.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:21 AM (r+7wo)

566 Her feet need to be small so she can get close to the kitchen counter to wash dishes.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 24, 2014 01:21 AM (jucos)

567 So do guys prefer... Women. That's my standard. I don't vary on that. Of course I do have my particulars. That would be wife. During 30+ years, lots of things change...it's all good.

Posted by: Tantorious Maximus at April 24, 2014 01:22 AM (uji7X)

568 We're not mind readers. Just because we don't know what you're thinking doesn't mean we don't love you. Don't make us guess.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:20 AM (JS0vr)

***********

Ding freaking ding. I married a woman who understood this. We got divorced years later when she forgot this one simple thing about a relationship.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:23 AM (ojnk6)

569 The sources said while Clooney stuck up for the president, he pointed his finger at Steve, and “Wynn’s three goon-like bodyguards immediately loomed up behind Rande and George.” But “before Wynn’s bodyguards could touch them, George and Rande got up and walked out.”

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:24 AM (zOTsN)

570 Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 01:19 AM (ujux6)

Sounds yummy.

No restaurants get 'heat' right. Either non-existent or burn your frickin lips so you can't taste anything else.

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:24 AM (QeH9j)

571 Hillary really needs to get that hair under control if she ever expects to be taken seriously as a Presidential candidate.

Posted by: jix at April 24, 2014 01:24 AM (emTP6)

572 Bitter Clinger, I subscribe heartily to your list (with the caveat of no sex before saying I do - after that my body is his and vice versa).

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:25 AM (r+7wo)

573 480
"yeah, other states have bugs, but they don't make you put up orange

facades where your bug-screens are going to be three months in advance

to allow your neighbors and random-passers-by to object to your design."

Isn't Commiefornia awesome?

Almost
as good as having the CA authorities roaming around with infrared
scopes to detect and apprehend people guilty of the heinous crime of...
building fires in their fireplaces.

I remember an environmentalist bumper sticker common in NorCal in the 1970s: "Split wood, not atoms."

Well,
now you can split as much wood as you want, but if you dare burn so
much as a twig worth of it contrary to official dictates, expect for the
planetary purity police to be knocking on your door in the name of the
greater good.



Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 12:48 AM (noWW6)
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Let me out! Let me out! Let me out!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 01:25 AM (T1005)

574 LOL, indeed. See my later comment.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:21 AM (r+7wo)


Too funny. Do I know women or what? Truth is, I have heard a few female friends comment on how a few extra pounds gave them great boobs, but to their dismay when they started to lose weight the boobs were the first thing to vanish.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:26 AM (FMbng)

575 571 Hillary really needs to get that hair under control if she ever expects to be taken seriously as a Presidential candidate.
Posted by: jix at April 24, 2014 01:24 AM (emTP6)


Nobody said using the flea and tick shampoo would be pretty.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:26 AM (tNrYO)

576 Posted by: jix at April 24, 2014 01:24 AM (emTP6)

That's okay. Everyone will be looking at the baby.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:26 AM (JS0vr)

577 Russell Wilson, super bowl winning QB, announced he is getting divorced after two years of marriage

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:26 AM (zOTsN)

578 Her feet need to be small so she can get close to the kitchen counter to wash dishes)))

The words from the mouth of a bad cabinet maker.

Toe Kick!!11!!

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 01:26 AM (75hfB)

579 >>> I'm good friends with the President. <<<

Bullshit.

Narcissists don't have friends, they have people who think they are friends.

That goes for both of them.

Posted by: davidt at April 24, 2014 01:27 AM (PAplM)

580 575 Nobody said using the flea and tick shampoo would be pretty.
Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:26 AM (tNrYO

Heh.

Posted by: jix at April 24, 2014 01:28 AM (emTP6)

581 Cameron Diaz has announced she hasn't used antiperspirant in 20 years

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:29 AM (zOTsN)

582 579 >>> I'm good friends with the President.


That should be something to be ashamed of, if you ask me.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:29 AM (tNrYO)

583 Speaking of Hill, the FastCompany ppl didn't even try to make Chelsea's face look cute on that cover. I can't believe her handlers let that cover make it through.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:29 AM (r+7wo)

584 That kid's going to be just the right age. Still totable, a bit less fussy (maybe), features clear and some hair. Pukability slacking off.

Awwwww look at the baby

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:29 AM (JS0vr)

585 Bullshit.

Narcissists don't have friends, they have people who think they are friends.

That goes for both of them.
Posted by: davidt at April 24, 2014 01:27 AM (PAplM)

********

Those with Narcassistic Personality Disorder ( both of them) are not capable of having friends. Acolytes, sure. But their personalities will not allow them to have friends as we the commoners know them.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:30 AM (ojnk6)

586 Speaking of Hill, the FastCompany ppl didn't even
try to make Chelsea's face look cute on that cover. I can't believe her
handlers let that cover make it through.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:29 AM (r+7wo)



There was a bit of wisdom I picked up in that car movie Christine, when the old dude with the cigar said, "you can't polish a turd"

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:31 AM (FMbng)

587 George Clooney: Leave Barack alone!!! Sob sob.

Steve Wynn: He can't really help it. He's a drunk.

He's a personal friend. What other kind of friend is there?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:31 AM (r+7wo)

588 the other people think they're friends. The Ego thinks they're resources.

Like a cat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:31 AM (JS0vr)

589 There was a bit of wisdom I picked up in that car movie Christine, when the old dude with the cigar said, "you can't polish a turd"
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:31 AM (FMbng)

Or pick it up from the clean end.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:32 AM (tNrYO)

590 davidt at April 24, 2014 01:27 AM (PAplM)

********

Get outta my head!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:33 AM (ojnk6)

591 A ballot initiative to amend the CA constitution to allow residential fires without interference from the gubmint would be awesome. Be great to see a poke in the eye.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 24, 2014 01:33 AM (Tp4Rs)

592 Maybe her handlers secretly don't like her. Like some of Michelle O's stylists who clearly have a vendetta against her.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:34 AM (r+7wo)

593 It’s a classic case of “poopdunnit.” Residents in Ypsilanti, Michigan, are under a presumably smelly siege and there’s no relief to be had.


Dubbed the “serial pooper,” this individual has taken to defecating on the city’s playground slides, Michigan’s MLive reports. Obviously perturbed by the fact that no one ordered sliders on their slides, an advertising group posted messages on billboards to catch the individual:

“HELP US FLUSH OUT THE POOPER #YPSIPOOPER”

“DO YOUR CIVIC DOODY: Report the pooper. “YPSIPOOPER”

“HELP US CATCH THE POOPETRATOR #YPSIPOOPER”

The city later asked the ad agency to take the billboards down, but police are reportedly closing in on whomever is pooping up the joint.

“We have a person of interest in the case, it’s an ongoing investigation and we’re closing in on that individual,” City Manager Ralph Lange said.

Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:34 AM (zOTsN)

594 520 So do guys prefer a butter face with a nice body to a pretty woman who could stand to lose a few (not that many) pounds and isn't super toned?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:03 AM (r+7wo)


I'll take Door #2 every time.

Posted by: rickl at April 24, 2014 01:34 AM (sdi6R)

595 "He's a personal friend. What other kind of friend is there?"
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:31 AM (r+7wo)

The qualifier, "personal" is used when insecure.

Otherwise, you call someone an "acquaintance".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:34 AM (lq3Ak)

596 'Night Guys and Dolls.

I'll leave you with the epitome of ass, boobs, beauty, and personality.


http://tinyurl.com/ku4swtj

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:34 AM (QeH9j)

597 That kid's going to be just the right age. Still totable, a bit less fussy (maybe), features clear and some hair. Pukability slacking off.)))

He'll it's the Clinton's . Chelsea isn't preggers but the clone baby factory is finally online. They will have 20 in the trailer to chose from that at that moment aren't crying.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 01:35 AM (75hfB)

598 We have a person of interest in the case and he's a real asshole.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:35 AM (JS0vr)

599 Later, RWC.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:35 AM (lq3Ak)

600 Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:34 AM (QeH9j)

You're

You're


You're despicable.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:36 AM (JS0vr)

601 Further thought in re women's fitness, curviness, and what have you:

Just in the last day, I recollect having seen two women who were definitely towards the heavier end of the spectrum. But who presented very differently.

The first one gave the distinct impression of too much packed onto her frame, and laboring with it. Not enough cardiovascular capacity to move herself in a sprightly way. Bones bending under the stress. Slow to climb steps. An awkward gait. Visibly not happy.

Whereas the second one looked comfortable with herself, pleased with her life, and not overburdened. Laughing, pleasant demeanor. Moved like a dancer despite her size. She probably could have danced up a flight of steps on her toes while smiling and not getting out of breath.

To what extent this difference might have been genetic, ethnic, behavioral, nutritional, psychological, or medical was beyond my ability to suss out on such a cursory acquaintance. But the disparity was striking.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:36 AM (noWW6)

602 Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:34 AM (QeH9j)

Banhammer worthy.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:37 AM (r+7wo)

603 Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:36 AM (noWW6)

Probably age and/or disease.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:37 AM (JS0vr)

604 598 We have a person of interest in the case and he's a real asshole.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:35 AM (JS0vr)


I bet it's someone from that ad agency that couldn't resist the oh-so-cute billboards.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:37 AM (tNrYO)

605 one of today's shirts on Qwertee is perfect for cthulhu

http://www.qwertee.com/

Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2014 01:38 AM (bStrg)

606 'Night Guys and Dolls.



I'll leave you with the epitome of ass, boobs, beauty, and personality.





http://tinyurl.com/ku4swtj

Posted by: RWC at April 24, 2014 01:34 AM (QeH9j)


Old Chinese proverb- May the creature in that picture visit you while you sleep and ass rape you.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2014 01:39 AM (FMbng)

607 For a while (because of gout) I had a lot of joint pain. This made doing anything a chore and painful.

Now after medicine, I'm recovering and can actually walk with my old gait, faster more balanced and energetic.

World of difference yet not much else changed.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:39 AM (JS0vr)

608 Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:36 AM (noWW6)

Self confidence and carriage makes a huge difference. Which is why, in my opinion, a lot of heavier black women can look attractive but it's not as common with heavy white women. Because black women tend to have a lot of (sometimes to much? to the misfortune of onlookers) confidence about their bodies regardless of size.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:41 AM (r+7wo)

609 542
Thanks for answering so quickly guys (including those who answer after I
post this). I'm curious about the way men's minds work.



True story. I recently put on quite a bit of weight. (i'm not fat, yet ,
but I am quite a bit more curvy than I used to be). And this is the
first time in a while I have not been obsessed about my weight. (i've
always liked my body. I just always used to talk and think about my
weight.) I'm actually thinking of staying at this weight. Isn't that
funny?

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:12 AM (r+7wo)
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For all the time guys look at pictures, attitude matters a great deal. And, just for a reality check, ask a guy who is checking out the firehose of pussy on the internet why he just closed a page instead of going for a close-up, and you'll often hear, "with that expression? No, thanks."



If you don't have anything else to talk about, talk skinny and fit. If you've got a real person -- talk about how often you want to snuggle, when you look and her and you know you're both thinking mischief, when you'll do a little extra for her smile or she'll do a little extra for yours.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 01:41 AM (T1005)

610 Self confidence and carriage makes a huge difference. Which is why, in my opinion, a lot of heavier black women can look attractive but it's not as common with heavy white women. Because black women tend to have a lot of (sometimes to much? to the misfortune of onlookers) confidence about their bodies regardless of size.
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:41 AM (r+7wo)

***********

Please pardon me if I'm incorrect, but isn't a certain part of the body being a certain size valued in this community?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:44 AM (ojnk6)

611 "Probably age and/or disease."

Virtually identical age demographic, late twenties to early thirties.

Disease, well, perhaps. Absent a _Star Trek_ tricorder, there are things one simply can't know on such a cursory basis. Damnit, Jim! I'm an engineer, not a doctor.

I do in general think that some people can carry a high body mass well, and healthily and happily, whereas other people with the same general parameters are pushing various limits, and it shows, and on them it doesn't come off well.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:44 AM (noWW6)

612 I do in general think that some people can carry a high body mass well, and healthily and happily, whereas other people with the same general parameters are pushing various limits, and it shows, and on them it doesn't come off well.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:44 AM (noWW6)

I've known heavy people who are healthy and active, and those who are not...same with skinny people too, for that matter; there's 'lean' and then there's 'skeletor'.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:48 AM (tNrYO)

613 591
A ballot initiative to amend the CA constitution to allow residential
fires without interference from the gubmint would be awesome. Be great
to see a poke in the eye.


Posted by: SFGoth at April 24, 2014 01:33 AM (Tp4Rs)
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Be greater to see it from far, far, far away.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 01:48 AM (T1005)

614 Please pardon me if I'm incorrect, but isn't a certain part of the body being a certain size valued in this community?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:44 AM (ojnk6)

Correct. The question, "Does this dress make my butt look big?" used to fascinate me since I always thought that was a good thing. Until recently I realized that a big butt on a white woman has different visual characteristics from a big butt on a black one.

No offense. I also think white guy legs >> black guy legs, esp Africans.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:49 AM (r+7wo)

615 Gimme a little hair around the cooter and I'll eat that shit like a starving Somalian.

-That's What I Do.

We're talking one-half-hour's worth of "clam digging for one's life".

I don't come up for air until I hear VICTORY!

-YMMV.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:49 AM (lq3Ak)

616 I have a good friend who is tall and skinny that is physically incapable of gaining weight...no matter how much he eats or works out.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:51 AM (tNrYO)

617 picking hair out of one's teeth is for plebs

Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2014 01:51 AM (bStrg)

618 Would a Venn diagram be useful in the calculation of Chique's recent weight gain? Since Chique that is the real answer. Some will like you more and some will like you less on that one attribute. But some that like you less on that attribute don't give a shit cause they love you for another.

And I have likely bastardized the Venn diagram since most of them I've seen make no sense.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 01:51 AM (75hfB)

619 Wow, Slapweasel, you certainly took things up a notch.

(James Earl Jones voice) This is ONT.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:52 AM (r+7wo)

620 ...bald cooters aren't "as good". I'll eat it. I just don't like it as much.

It is like lemon-meringue v. key-lime.

...preference. (Child of the Eighties).

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:52 AM (lq3Ak)

621 "picking hair out of one's teeth is for plebs par for the course.
Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2014 01:51 AM (bStrg)

I fixed that for you.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:53 AM (lq3Ak)

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:54 AM (lq3Ak)

623 No offense. I also think white guy legs >> black guy legs, esp Africans.
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:49 AM (r+7wo)

********

Perception being reality and all, I apreciate your honest answer. I had to approach that one tenderly, as you may understand, given my pastiness and all.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:54 AM (ojnk6)

624 Fabienne: I was looking at myself in the mirror.
Butch: Uh-huh?
Fabienne: I wish I had a pot.
Butch: You were lookin' in the mirror and you wish you had some pot?
Fabienne: A pot. A pot belly. Pot bellies are sexy.
Butch: Well you should be happy, 'cause you do.
Fabienne: Shut up, Fatso! I don't have a pot! I have a bit of a tummy, like Madonna when she did "Lucky Star," it's not the same thing.
Butch: I didn't realize there was a difference between a tummy and a pot belly.
Fabienne: The difference is huge.
Butch: You want me to have a pot?
Fabienne: No. Pot bellies make a man look either oafish, or like a gorilla. But on a woman, a pot belly is very sexy. The rest of you is normal. Normal face, normal legs, normal hips, normal ass, but with a big, perfectly round pot belly. If I had one, I'd wear a tee-shirt two sizes too small to accentuate it.
Butch: You think guys would find that attractive?
Fabienne: I don't give a damn what men find attractive. It's unfortunate what we find pleasing to the touch and pleasing to the eye is seldom the same.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 24, 2014 01:54 AM (ymqyl)

625
Hello from Down Under and it's late arvo on Thursday..almost time to start thinking about cooking dinner as we've eaten out this whole week

Last night we had a great time at the Doobie Brothers concert - still rocking after all these years!

model_1066 mentioned Flightradar24 upthread - there is also a Flightaware site which is good

I'm a plane spotter from way back - we all have our funny little quirks I reckon...

And I love the way these open threads weave and turn - any topic any time - even serious ones

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 01:55 AM (flMT4)

626 That's like saying, "Golfing would be nice, if it weren't surrounded by grass".

Avoid the sand and water-hazards. Enjoy the walk!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 01:56 AM (lq3Ak)

627 Perception being reality and all, I apreciate your honest answer. I had to approach that one tenderly, as you may understand, given my pastiness and all.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 01:54 AM (ojnk6)

I find racial and cultural differences to be a fascinating topic and it's nice to be able to talk about them freely.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:56 AM (r+7wo)

628 I got my mp3 player on shuffle and what song just started playing?

M.O.D. - Spandex Enormity

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:56 AM (tNrYO)

629
I wish I'd kept my dads old Popular Science and Popular Mechanics magazines.

Worth money now I'd bet.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 10:08 PM (JS0vr)

I have a slew of them that my father collected, from about 1935 to the late '60's. Not all the issues, but most of them. And they are fascinating reading, and a great commentary on the decline of literacy, both in science, and in, well, literacy itself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2014 01:57 AM (TKUw7)

630 Just found an RNC "survey" in my email from Rinsed Prius. I'm confident that my answer of "R's sucking DNC cock" was an appropriate answer for one of my "3 main concerns."

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 01:57 AM (vn9w4)

631 What have I walked into?

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at April 24, 2014 01:58 AM (R+h7Q)

632 I appreciate Slapweasel's support of non-torture to lady parts.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:59 AM (r+7wo)

633 HA! Just got a bot-reply from the GOPe thanking me for completing the survey.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:00 AM (vn9w4)

634 If I'm gonna take the time out to shave my balls, a girl better take the time to shave her snatch

Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2014 02:00 AM (bStrg)

635 Wow what is all the talk of suicide tonight? Having just lost a dear friend this week after two years of valiant effort against brain cancer.......I will always see suicide as an extremely selfish act.

When I was in high school, my boyfriend's best friend committed suicide by shooting his brains out. That left his parents incrincredible grief and all of his friends lost.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at April 24, 2014 02:00 AM (oKzyB)

636 Ok ppl. I should turn in now. It's been real.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 02:00 AM (r+7wo)

637 "Wow, Slapweasel, you certainly took things up a notch.
(James Earl Jones voice) This is ONT.
"
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:52 AM (r+7wo)

Hah! I'm simply being honest.

That shit gets my *full attention*.

I'll work on that like I was drawing a work of art!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:01 AM (lq3Ak)

638 Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:00 AM (vn9w4)

Aaaaaand... your phone will now be ringing off the hook for donations.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 24, 2014 02:01 AM (ymqyl)

639 "Because black women tend to have a lot of (sometimes to much? to the
misfortune of onlookers) confidence about their bodies regardless of
size."

Interesting that you should say that.

The woman who I thought carried herself well was definitively black.

The other woman, who did not seem at all comfortable at her current size, was of what I would term "indeterminate ethnicity".

That is a steadily growing category in the SF Bay Area.

A Filipino guy I met here shook his head ruefully and said he had walked up to what he figured for sure was a fellow pinoy, and said hello in Tagalog, and gotten a very hostile stare in response. Straight up Mexican and not happy to be taken for anything other than that.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 02:01 AM (noWW6)

640 I find racial and cultural differences to be a fascinating topic and it's nice to be able to talk about them freely.
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 01:56 AM (r+7wo)

*********

Completely agree, pixel Chique acquaintance. I would never even bring this up in a Professional environment. Too many HR land mines associated with the topic. So, I appreciate your input on that which I can not ask IRL.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 24, 2014 02:02 AM (ojnk6)

641 605
one of today's shirts on Qwertee is perfect for cthulhu

http://www.qwertee.com/


Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2014 01:38 AM (bStrg)
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Ordered.



A favorite moment -- when I was visiting Shredded Chi, it "broke-the-ice" when he asked, "do all your shirts have a Cthulhu theme?"

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:02 AM (T1005)

642 634 If I'm gonna take the time out to shave my balls, a girl better take the time to shave her snatch
Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2014 02:00 AM (bStrg)

It's like Field of Dreams. If you shave them, they will come.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 24, 2014 02:02 AM (ymqyl)

643 Aaaaaand... your phone will now be ringing off the hook for donations.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 24, 2014 02:01 AM (ymqyl)


That's why the home phone ringer stays turned off.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:02 AM (vn9w4)

644 616 I have a good friend who is tall and skinny that is physically incapable of gaining weight...no matter how much he eats or works out.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 01:51 AM (tNrYO)
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*raises hand

I still wear 32"w levis - three decades out of high school.
I was in the fitness industry for over 20 years, and it took dedication, 2 years, and a lot of money & work to gain ten pounds.
not bragging, but I have never been over 12% body fat. It's all genetics.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 02:03 AM (QoLTq)

645 "If I'm gonna take the time out to shave my balls, a girl better take the time to shave her snatch."
Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2014 02:00 AM (bStrg)

Stop shaving your balls. It is ridiculous.

...and I don't mind "trim". I just don't want "The Nethers" to look like a Twelve-Year-Old.

80's Playboys FTW!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:03 AM (lq3Ak)

646 G'Night, Chique!

...Call Me! ...lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:04 AM (lq3Ak)

647 and it took dedication, 2 years, and a lot of money work to gain ten pounds.




I got about 40 I'll give you for free.



not bragging, but I have never been over 12% body fat. It's all genetics.


Yes, you are, lol.



Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:05 AM (vn9w4)

648 If I'm gonna take the time out to shave my balls, a girl better take the time to shave her snatch )))

So I've been shaving my balls for the wrong reason all theses years? I thought it was so the crabs couldn't nest.

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (75hfB)

649 I'll admit it. I like tall skinny guys. Started appreciating muscle (not too much bulk, though) after having a buff bf, but still love the lean men.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (r+7wo)

650 A favorite moment -- when I was visiting Shredded Chi, it "broke-the-ice" when he asked, "do all your shirts have a Cthulhu theme?"

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:02 AM (T1005)
------
I love you, man.
No Homo!

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (QoLTq)

651 Attitude has everything to do with a "Turn-On".

The rest happens during "Discovery".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (lq3Ak)

652 Ok. I'm really leaving now.

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (r+7wo)

653 "I'll admit it. I like tall skinny guys."
Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (r+7wo)

DAMNIT!

5' 9" 190#

...walks away, Bruce Banner style.

*sad music plays*

...hoists thumb.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:10 AM (lq3Ak)

654 Chique at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (r+7wo)

no! no! no!

Hit The Number and be a Devil in a Blue Dress on the Day of your choice!!!!

And when wearing a Blue Dress, obviously ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 02:10 AM (qoKTg)

655 625-
Hello, aussie!
I love me some Doobies! Glad to hear they still rock.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 02:12 AM (QoLTq)

656 Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:10 AM (lq3Ak)

They rebooted ...

Now it's sitting in a smashed up restaurant eating shwarma ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 02:13 AM (qoKTg)

657 Attitude has everything to do with a "Turn-On".



The rest happens during "Discovery".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (lq3Ak)


This. Went out tonight to have a few beers with my old XO from Iraq. After he left, I was about to kill the beer I had and tab out. As I was standing there waiting on the bartender, I started talking to a girl sitting at the end of the bar. Turns out she's a former Marine. All attitude, in a good way...a real, no time for BS chick. She left shortly after...we'll see if she uses my business card for anything more than a campfire starter.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:13 AM (vn9w4)

658 "And I love the way these open threads weave and turn - any topic any time - even serious ones"

All right then, aussie, a question for you about how things are in Oz:

I have heard many horror stories about how the greeniacs have forced various silly measures upon ordinary Australians in the last few years.

The one which left me shaking my head in amazement was that rural homeowners had even been forbidden to perform cutbacks of plant growth around their properties for fire safety. (Not that Australia ever has wildfires. Heavens no.)

Has the recent change of government improved that situation at all?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 02:14 AM (noWW6)

659
Did anyone see the Menu from The Titanic that is going to be auctioned?
One of the selections is "Yarmouth Bloaters". That sure tickles my tastebuds....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 23, 2014 11:06 PM (aDwsi)

Sounds like that Debi creature from last night's ONT. Do.Not.Want.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2014 02:14 AM (TKUw7)

660 650
A favorite moment -- when I was visiting Shredded Chi, it
"broke-the-ice" when he asked, "doallyour shirts have a Cthulhu
theme?"



Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:02 AM (T1005)

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I love you, man.

No Homo!

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (QoLTq)
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I have maybe a dozen-or-so, but I wear them every time I think I might be photographed. Or need to meet up with someone I've never seen. Or when I can get away with it, and I think someone is making an occasion too straight-laced.



I even have this one -- http://tinyurl.com/mzjydaf

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:14 AM (T1005)

661 Ok, I've heard of holdouts, but jeese louise... Is that a J frame?

Posted by: HAL at April 24, 2014 02:15 AM (AIC5Z)

662 649 I'll admit it. I like tall skinny guys

-Chique
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How you doin'?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 02:15 AM (QoLTq)

663 Clicked on the Avril Lavigne video story. If I understand the controversy correctly, she's a racist because the music video is cheap and god-awful.

Posted by: t-bird at April 24, 2014 02:16 AM (FcR7P)

664 "I'll admit it. I like tall skinny guys."

Posted by: Chique at April 24, 2014 02:07 AM (r+7wo)



DAMNIT!



5' 9" 190#



...walks away, Bruce Banner style.



*sad music plays*



...hoists thumb.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:10 AM (lq3Ak)


http://youtu.be/yUWgE0EVQ9c

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:16 AM (vn9w4)

665 662
649I'll admit it. I like tall skinny guys



-Chique

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How you doin'?





Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 02:15 AM (QoLTq)
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I can attest that he's taller and skinnier than me (*snickers into sleeve*).

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:17 AM (T1005)

666 yes?

Posted by: Satanbotv.666 at April 24, 2014 02:17 AM (bPIGR)

667 Now?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:17 AM (T1005)

668 Hah, these Cyberdyne Systems T1005s have nothing on me.

Posted by: Satanbot v.666 at April 24, 2014 02:20 AM (bPIGR)

669
655 shredded chi

Hi, and it was just wonderful!

I want what those blokes are on - energy plus performance and the house was rocking right through their show

My housework music of choice is the Doobies...dusting and vacuuming to China Grove - works for me

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 02:21 AM (flMT4)

670 Clicked on the Avril Lavigne video story. If I understand the controversy correctly, she's a racist because the music video is cheap and god-awful.)))

No it's because she used Asian chicks as back ground dancers in a Hello Kitty themed video. And obviously to those in the know. Hello Kitty is a Spanish thing.

Or maybe you are on to something after all .

Posted by: Dendritic at April 24, 2014 02:21 AM (75hfB)

671 ...."we'll see if she uses my business card for anything more than a campfire starter."
Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:13 AM (vn9w4)

Good Luck!

:fist-bump:

Even if I'm not "Oh-My-God", attracted to a woman? The "hot" defers to the "cute". The "cute" defers to the "attractive". The "attractive" defers to the "quality".

"Quality" is derived from the World-View + Tone.

You "find" things to be attracted to.

...that doesn't mean that I won't bite your ass. Even a "quality" woman with an "inferior" ass is getting bitten.

It is part of my charm.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:24 AM (lq3Ak)

672 Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:13 AM (vn9w4)

May a callback be in your future ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 02:24 AM (qoKTg)

673 My housework music of choice is the Doobies...dusting and vacuuming to China Grove - works for me
Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 02:21 AM (flMT4)

Mine is Frank Zappa's "You Are What You Is"...and sing along for the whole album.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 24, 2014 02:26 AM (tNrYO)

674 Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:16 AM (vn9w4)
*HAH!*

I owned a tanning salon for sixteen years!

-My cup runneth over!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:26 AM (lq3Ak)

675 Thanks y'all. She was "attractive" to begin with, physically speaking, but nothing I would have gone out of my way to meet. The serendipity was in the conversation.


And with that, I'm out for the night.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 02:29 AM (vn9w4)

676 G'night, Country!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:30 AM (lq3Ak)

677
658 torquewrench
Hi, and unfortunately the greenies have infiltrated local government very successfully

The worst of the greenie inflicted horror stories - see the Victorian bushfires in 2009 (can't link due to only having cardboard membership here)

173 people died - some of them because of the greenie policies such as not reducing undergrowth, people not allowed to remove trees from around their homes etc

Even though we have a conservative Federal Government, greenies abound at a local level



Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 02:31 AM (flMT4)

678 My housework music of choice is the Doobies...dusting and vacuuming to China Grove - works for me

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 02:21 AM (flMT4)
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That was about my favorite time for them - Cornelius Bumpus, Michael McDonald... "Minute by Minute" & "One Step Closer" brings back some strong teenage memories. (I know what i'll be listening to tomorrow! )

I saw them quite a few years back & i was pretty impressed.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 02:33 AM (QoLTq)

679
673 model_1066

"Mine is Frank Zappa's "You Are What You Is"...and sing along for the whole album"

That's our go too one for a long drive - also singing along...

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 02:35 AM (flMT4)

680 It'd be funnier than hell if Chique hooks up through this place.....many who have been around long enough have caught a glimpse that she's cute enough -- but she's a freakin' ette!!! Holy-moly -- CNN comes on and you crack-up saying, "what a retard!" and she doesn't look at you all cross and confused......how much is THAT worth? MSLSD picks up an NYT story about voter rights, and you go "uh-oh...." and she does too -- how much is THAT worth? You're trying to unwind after a tough day at the office, but she catches you at midnight in front of a screen, and you go "I'm fretting about Cooth's latest neurosis on the ONT" and she says, "me, too!" -- how much is THAT worth?



We're talking SOULMATES.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:36 AM (T1005)

681 A T1005 is a cybernetic organism; living tissue over a metal endoskeleton.

Why the endoskeleton is in the form of a tentacled Elder Thing is a proof left to the reader.

Hint: lim x_>insanity = Innsmouth

Posted by: Satanbot v.666 at April 24, 2014 02:38 AM (bPIGR)

682 Has the revolution started?

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 24, 2014 02:38 AM (ymqyl)

683

678 shredded chi
"That was about my favorite time for them - Cornelius Bumpus, Michael McDonald... "Minute by Minute" "One Step Closer" brings back some strong teenage memories. (I know what i'll be listening to tomorrow! )

I saw them quite a few years back i was pretty impressed."

What a lineup they've had over the years - we usually listen to blues music but I just had to drag the old Aussie Bloke along last night and he did say it was "Awwright - said in Aussie drawl)

Which meant he enjoyed it...

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 02:40 AM (flMT4)

684 I must admit I am out of the loop on most of what goes on CNN, but tonight I had dinner at a bar and big tv was on opposite from where I sat. I ate sushi and had 2 22oz draft beers. CNN, what a waste of bandwidth. When they weren't speculating about flight M370, they were running puff pieces about Elizabeth Warren. Yes, Elizabeth Warren. Of all people on the entire planet earth, they chose her as the subject of a 10 minute long puff piece.

I would never pay money to watch that shit. May as well pay money to have someone pump sewage in to your living room.

After a while I got up and changed seats. Enjoyed the rest of the evening.

Posted by: navybrat at April 24, 2014 02:40 AM (JgC5a)

685 "We're talking SOULMATES."
Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:36 AM (T1005)

You Silly Bastard!

-She's smarter than that!

*cheers!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:40 AM (lq3Ak)

686
See you all later - time to start dinner !



Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 02:42 AM (flMT4)

687 685
"We're talking SOULMATES."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:36 AM (T1005)



You Silly Bastard!



-She's smarter than that!



*cheers!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:40 AM (lq3Ak)
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Slainte!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:45 AM (T1005)

688 ~~looks for peaches~~

hmmmmmm

i'll find her

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 24, 2014 02:49 AM (krmE0)

689 "Has the revolution started?"
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 24, 2014 02:38 AM (ymqyl)

*Press One for Spanish

*Press Two for Weapon Registration.

*Press Three to Join A Federally Approved Militia.

*Press Four to Register as a Domestic Terrorist.

*Forget #4. You've already called 1-800-ALL-GUNS.

*Press Five to apply for Federal/Socialist rates for Ammo.

*Press Six if you've got nothing better to do.

*Press Seven to Apply for Social Medicine Insurance.

*Press Eight if You're Part of the Minority Tribe.

*Press Nine if You're Bored.

****Welcome to the Federal Government Phone Line. An Operator Will be With You Shortly***

...and I'm happy to be Stuck With You. Wooooo-OOO-wah-ooo, I can see; that you're Happy to be Stuck With ME!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:51 AM (lq3Ak)

690 What a lineup they've had over the years - we usually listen to blues music but I just had to drag the old Aussie Bloke along last night and he did say it was "Awwright - said in Aussie drawl)

Which meant he enjoyed it...

Posted by: aussie at April 24, 2014 02:40 AM (flMT4
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What, what?!?!
That's all I listened to for about ten years. I was fortunate enough to see BB King & Buddy Guy together a few years ago (a birthday gift from the ex). Buddy, in his seventies, brought the house down. He put on a better show than the last five bands I've seen combined.
Sadly, BB was way past his prime - but I can say the saw him live.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 02:54 AM (QoLTq)

691 "Slainte!!!"
Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:45 AM (T1005)

I've seen this exclamation a few times. I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know what it means.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:58 AM (lq3Ak)

692 ...and I'm happy to be Stuck With You. Wooooo-OOO-wah-ooo, I can see; that you're Happy to be Stuck With ME!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:51 AM (lq3Ak)
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That reminded me of a certain subset of songs where "they're cool/they're songs/I like" morphs into a queasy ickiness. Just to get things off on the right foot, how 'bout Stephen Stills' "Love the One You're With" and John Lennon's "Imagine". The first is a cynical trashing of anything beyond the immediate moment's pleasure, and the second would be recognized by Dante as Hell.




Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:59 AM (T1005)

693 I've looked it up, but I didn't go through Wikipedia. I suppose I'm just being lazy.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:59 AM (lq3Ak)

694 691
"Slainte!!!"

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 02:45 AM (T1005)



I've seen this exclamation a few times. I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know what it means.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:58 AM (lq3Ak)
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Literally, it means "health" -- as a toast, it means "your health", and.....it's Gaelic, so it's most often part of a toast.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:02 AM (T1005)

695 "That reminded me of a certain subset of songs..."

Your mind wanders, Sir. It was meant to be ironic and silly ...lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:03 AM (lq3Ak)

696 "Slainte!!!"

It's Italian for slanted ...

In moronics, we'd say, "Hey! who left the italics on?"

Posted by: Peruvian Grammar Teachers Local 102a... at April 24, 2014 03:03 AM (qoKTg)

697 "Literally, it means "health" -- as a toast, it means "your health", and.....it's Gaelic, so it's most often part of a toast."
Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:02 AM (T1005)

Being a part of a Gaelic Toast seems "welcoming" and "introductory".

I remember the first time I sat around an Italian table.

I felt "at home".

...even though I wouldn't eat the eggplant.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:07 AM (lq3Ak)

698 "It's Italian for slanted ...
In moronics, we'd say, "Hey! who left the italics on?"
"
Posted by: Peruvian Grammar Teachers Local 102a... at April 24, 2014 03:03 AM (qoKTg)

I reject this, whole-heartedly. Go Back To South America!

*sneeze*

*wipes snot off screen*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:11 AM (lq3Ak)

699 I'm going to roll some cigarettes and watch Red Eye.

...tobacco. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:12 AM (lq3Ak)

700 693
I've looked it up, but I didn't go through Wikipedia. I suppose I'm just being lazy.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 02:59 AM (lq3Ak)
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I might otherwise go, "l'chaim" -- which, in Hebrew, means "to life" and is another popular toast [when drinking Manischewitz?]. Or "skaal" -- which is often equated with "slainte", but actually is a non-denominational word meaning "toast" without especial reference to whether it is to "life" or "health" or anything else, favored by Skandis.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:13 AM (T1005)

701 696
"Slainte!!!"



It's Italian for slanted ...



In moronics, we'd say, "Hey! who left the italics on?"

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Oh, fuck [begins to hyperventilate, looks worriedly toward barrel].



[Breathing deeply] oh, never mind.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:17 AM (T1005)

702 697
"Literally, it means "health" -- as a toast, it means "your health", and.....it's Gaelic, so it's most often part of a toast."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:02 AM (T1005)



Being a part of a Gaelic Toast seems "welcoming" and "introductory".



I remember the first time I sat around an Italian table.



I felt "at home".



...even though I wouldn't eat the eggplant.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:07 AM (lq3Ak)
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I'm about to impart a great Truth -- Italians know eggplant, and when real Italians cook it, have some......but on no account let anyone else feed you any, 'cause that'll convince you that it's worthless crap.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:20 AM (T1005)

703 cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:20 AM (T1005)

Japanese eggplant broiled with a light {not too salty} miso ...

Posted by: Peruvian Grammar Teachers Local 102a... at April 24, 2014 03:23 AM (qoKTg)

704 703
cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:20 AM (T1005)



Japanese eggplant broiled with a light {not too salty} miso ...

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OK, Italians and Japanese.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:28 AM (T1005)

705 re: Eggplant

I'm not Italian by any stretch of the imagination (helpful hint: to me, paprika is a food group), but I can cook a mean eggplant parm. I also make babaganouj. I've made a stir-fry with sliced pork and eggplant in an orange/hoi-sin sauce. Once I did Japanese eggplant sliced in half lengthwise, made slits into the flesh, placed them cut side down on a microwave save baking dish, put in enough soy to cover about halfway up, tossed in some minced garlic and ginger and nuked for about 20 minutes or so until done. Was quite impressed with that recipe (which came from a veggie cookbook).

Doing eggplant right (read: tasty) is not just for Italians.

Posted by: RickZ at April 24, 2014 03:29 AM (HWCZo)

706 Japanese eggplants are different-ish from European ones - thinner...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 03:30 AM (qoKTg)

707 "I'm about to impart a great Truth -- Italians know eggplant, and when real Italians cook it, have some......but on no account let anyone else feed you any, 'cause that'll convince you that it's worthless crap."
Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:20 AM (T1005)

Being "silly", I did actually eat Italian Eggplant Lasagne when I was about ten.

My babysitter's family was First Generation Italian.

When I showed up to see if "Carbone" wanted to play basketball, I got invited to stay for dinner.

It was delicious, but I'll be "afraid" of eggplant, as your description warns ...lol. Not for nuthin', but "soggy eggplant" eats all sorts of ASS.

Ms. Carbone made Eggplant Lasagne like a champ.

The "Other People" shit on Eggplant Whatever because... "different".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:31 AM (lq3Ak)

708 Doing eggplant right (read: tasty) is not just for Italians.

OKOKOK...

Italians, Japanese w/Japanese eggplants, and vegetarian Hungarians ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 03:32 AM (qoKTg)

709 Japanese eggplant broiled with a light {not too salty} miso ...
Posted by: Peruvian Grammar Teachers


Too salty miso? No such thing on the western side of the Date Line.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 03:32 AM (ujux6)

710 Of all the ways to kill boredom or procrastinate, the HQ, and the ONT in particular, are probably one of the best ways…

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 24, 2014 03:32 AM (AymDN)

711 Posted by: The Political Hat at April 24, 2014 03:32 AM (AymDN)

It is almost like I needed confirmation that this shit actually happened.

*STAMP*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:34 AM (lq3Ak)

712 705
re: Eggplant



I'm not Italian by any stretch of the imagination (helpful hint: to
me, paprika is a food group), but I can cook a mean eggplant parm. I
also make babaganouj. I've made a stir-fry with sliced pork and
eggplant in an orange/hoi-sin sauce. Once I did Japanese eggplant
sliced in half lengthwise, made slits into the flesh, placed them cut
side down on a microwave save baking dish, put in enough soy to cover
about halfway up, tossed in some minced garlic and ginger and nuked for
about 20 minutes or so until done. Was quite impressed with that recipe
(which came from a veggie cookbook).



Doing eggplant right (read: tasty) is not just for Italians.

Posted by: RickZ at April 24, 2014 03:29 AM (HWCZo)
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This is a very good point, and I should have been more general. My thesis was "have eggplant prepared by someone who knows how to make it delicious before you have it prepared by someone who doesn't understand it and will ruin it for you forever." I over-focused on Italian, thinking of the many delicious eggplant dishes there................

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:37 AM (T1005)

713 That's like saying "Too salty kim chee."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 03:38 AM (ujux6)

714 Adriane,

There's a Greek restaurant near me that serves a stuffed eggplant. OMG! I've looked on-line for recipes, but haven't found one yet that had a stuffing of eggplant/beef/cheese yet. Still looking.

Yes, I'm a vagitarian. Oh wait, you said vegetarian. No, definitely not a vegetarian. I like bacon and pastrami way too much to even consider giving them up. Just the thought of a soy product pastrami makes me ill.

Posted by: RickZ at April 24, 2014 03:39 AM (HWCZo)

715 I'm here ... and playing bubble shooter heavenly machine {no sound!} in another window ... instead of writing an outline.

I denounce myself ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 03:39 AM (qoKTg)

716 Cankles looks like she's been beaten regularly with an ugly stick lately since birth

FIFY.

Posted by: FOAF at April 24, 2014 03:41 AM (rZ7kp)

717 "That's like saying "Too salty kim chee.""
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 03:38 AM (ujux6)

Your Soy Sauce Seems Salty.

...and what the Hell is wrong with this Worcestershire sauce?

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:42 AM (lq3Ak)

718 I laike penooot buttah.... without the penooots.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 03:43 AM (ujux6)

719 Eggplant -
I will catch hell for this, but check out Alton Brown for proper prep.

Per AoS regs, I denounce myself.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 03:43 AM (QoLTq)

720 707
"I'm about to impart a great Truth -- Italians know eggplant, and
when real Italians cook it, have some......but on no account let anyone
else feed you any, 'cause that'll convince you that it's worthless crap."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:20 AM (T1005)



Being "silly", I did actually eat Italian Eggplant Lasagne when I was about ten.



My babysitter's family was First Generation Italian.



When I showed up to see if "Carbone" wanted to play basketball, I got invited to stay for dinner.



It was delicious, but I'll be "afraid" of eggplant, as your
description warns ...lol. Not for nuthin', but "soggy eggplant" eats
all sorts of ASS.



Ms. Carbone made Eggplant Lasagne like a champ.



The "Other People" shit on Eggplant Whatever because... "different".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 03:31 AM (lq3Ak)
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^^^This.



When it's good, it's very, very good......but when it's bad, you might well come to believe that it's totally horrid and contaminates anything it touches.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:44 AM (T1005)

721 719
Eggplant -

I will catch hell for this, but check out Alton Brown for proper prep.



Per AoS regs, I denounce myself.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 03:43 AM (QoLTq)
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Why? Alton Brown is a smart dude, wise in the ways of cookery.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:47 AM (T1005)

722 Eggplant is hard to cook, no doubt.

Even with all the Alton Brown, America's Test K, Heston backup; shit's not of the Earth.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 03:49 AM (ujux6)

723 Anglo-Saxon sword test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhQM57DPQ20

Posted by: Se Léodweardprćtt Hćt at April 24, 2014 03:51 AM (AymDN)

724 "Cankles looks like she's been beaten regularly with an ugly stick lately since birth."
FIFY."
Posted by: FOAF at April 24, 2014 03:41 AM (rZ7kp)

You've fixed nothing. In fact, you've created at least five more problems for us to solve.

The First being "exactly what you claimed to have fixed".
Did you replace "Hillary!" with "Cankles"-? That's my guess.

Should you care to participate further, the "strikethrough" might be helpful.

It is done by using Word Substitute Word.

These helpful hints are brought to you by the Letter "R", the letter "D" and the number "7".

Posted by: Sunny Days, Sweeping the Clouds Away at April 24, 2014 03:51 AM (lq3Ak)

725 I had the bulgogi lunch special w/ hot kim chee and sweet hot kim chee today...

& took an intro to pyrography ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 03:51 AM (qoKTg)

726 Strikethrough

Posted by: Sunny Days, Sweeping the Clouds Away at April 24, 2014 03:52 AM (lq3Ak)

727 [ s ] Strikethrough [ / s ]

That's the way you do it. You get your money for nuthin' and your chicks for free.

Posted by: Sunny Days, Sweeping the Clouds Away at April 24, 2014 03:54 AM (lq3Ak)

728 When the strike is through, usually people go back to work ... but sometimes, there's no place to go back to work to ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 03:55 AM (qoKTg)

729 "When the strike is through, usually people go back to work ... but sometimes, there's no place to go back to work to ..."
Posted by: Adriane... at April 24, 2014 03:55 AM (qoKTg)

Punny. Enjoy the crown.

*places cardboard Burger King crown upon the head of The Worthy*

I knight you "Sir Silly".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 04:00 AM (lq3Ak)

730 The other day was The Bard's 450th birthday.

Here is an automatic Shakespeare insult generator:

http://tinyurl.com/l92w45n

Posted by: Ye Olde Shakespearian Hat at April 24, 2014 04:06 AM (AymDN)

731 Why? Alton Brown is a smart dude, wise in the ways of cookery.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:47 AM (T1005)
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I'm pretty sure that a lot of people here hate him.
I haven't watched him in years, but always enjoyed his show.
always thought that he was the coolest nerd on TV.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 04:11 AM (QoLTq)

732 #722 Eggplant is hard to cook, no doubt.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2014 03:49 AM (ujux6)


I have to disagree with this. Eggplant is not all that difficult to prepare. Babaganouj is one of the easiest things to make. Poke holes with a fork in the eggplant. Bake in a 350 degree oven until soft, about 30-45 minutes. Let cool and scoop out the meat. Put the meat into a food processor with some tahini paste, garlic, lemon juice, cayenne pepper and a drizzle of sesame oil. Whir 'til smooth. Refrigerate then serve with pita bread.

Octopus? Now that is difficult to prepare.

Posted by: RickZ at April 24, 2014 04:11 AM (HWCZo)

733 Justin Bieber tweeted a photo of himself at a shrine for Japanese war criminals:

http://tinyurl.com/lf25u5k

Warning, ads at link are NSFW

Posted by: 政治的な帽子~WTF at April 24, 2014 04:17 AM (AymDN)

734 You guys are really getting sucky and laying down on the job.

Next time do your job and actually write a freaking article.

Bon't write no bull shit article like Krugman, man up and write a "for real" article.

Stop being a Putz.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 24, 2014 04:20 AM (NB/bQ)

735 "Why? Alton Brown is a smart dude, wise in the ways of cookery."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2014 03:47 AM (T1005)
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"I'm pretty sure that a lot of people here hate him."
Posted by: shredded chi at April 24, 2014 04:11 AM (QoLTq)

What? Scientific approaches to food displeases The Horde? LOL. He's the Science Teacher We All Wish We Had... let-alone the excellent cooking aspect!

To know that my Mother followed a discipline, started by my Great-Grandmother is awesome.

Now I get to include chili peppers!

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 04:21 AM (lq3Ak)

736 Night all.

Here is "Be All End All" by Anthrax:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky20ckAHi_E

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 24, 2014 04:32 AM (AymDN)

737 I made broccoli ,cheese, potato, Kielbasa soup on the 5th.

If you've got timing, you've got a pot-full-O-awesome.

-Boiling Pot.
-Steaming Pot.
-Soup Pot, (5Gal.)
-Skillet

INGREDIENTS:
-1/2 Cup Butter.
-1/2 Cup All-Purpose Flour.
-1/2 Gallon Whole Milk.
-(NINE!) "Decent Sized Potatoes". (2 lbs.)
-1/3 Of Teh Whole Velveeta. Diced into small cubes.
-Two, (2) jars Tostitos "Smooth and Cheesy Dip". (15.2oz. ea. 425g. ea. x 2)
-1.5 lb. Polska Kielbasa.
-1.5 lb. Broccoli.



-Cut large flowers of broccoli into florettes and chunks days before. 1.5 LBS should be enough. When dicing the large stems, cut them into 1-Inch chunks.
(Store in a large container, lined by Paper Towels. Top and bottom.)
-Start Boiling 5 Gal./ Water. (You'll NEED this pot. Drain, Hold and cool).
-Dice your potatoes into spoon-sized niblets.
(Salt Your Niblets. Flavor before death!)
-Boil potatoes for fifteen minutes.
-Steam your broccoli.

...go ahead. I'm not telling anyone else about steaming your broccoli.

-I didn't watch.
-Steam your broccoli for 17-20 Min. (Low, Steamable Heat).
-Put potatoes and broccoli in a "Holding Bowl".
-Add One Cup butter to 5 Gal. Soup Pot. @ 2 or 3 heat.
-Add One Cup flour slowly.
-Get "clump".
-Break-Up "clump" as much as you can and Do Not Burn!
-Once the "roux" is "Blonde", add Milk. *Dump* ...then slowly.
-Watch for it to simmer and stir LIKE HELL!
-After fifteen minutes, add Velveeta and other cheeses.
-Stir!
-Add two jars of "Tostitos Smooth and Creamy Dip". 15.2 oz (x2) 425 g. (x2).
-Drop Kielbasa into Cast-Iron skillet.
-Stir!
-Add potatoes and broccoli to "Cheese Pot".
-Add Kielbasa and fend-off drool-riddled addicts.

...Serve by the ladle. Your "Wendy's" baked potato just cut its cost by a factor of ten!

If it sits on the burner for more than six hours, on "low", (1) -?

...someone might go home with a "corner".

...of a soup.

...actually happened.


Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 05:11 AM (lq3Ak)

738 #670

Can't imagine where you got the idea Hello Kitty is a Spanish thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Rio

Though some litigants claim it is a ripoff of a Dutch thing.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 24, 2014 05:13 AM (Icq+V)

739 I might not have emphasized that last rant, but that recipe makes Five Gallons of Soup!

...It should might feed three hungry bastards for two days.

...It'll set you back about $10.00-$15.00.

West Coast? $20.00-$30.00.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 05:24 AM (lq3Ak)

740 ...Japan? 27,000 yen.

Your decade has collapsed.

*shakes fist*

...your cartoons are hideous. Knock it off.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 05:30 AM (lq3Ak)

741 Slapweasel
Thanks for the recipe Slap, I just blew my diet reading the darn thing.

Posted by: Panhandler at April 24, 2014 05:31 AM (LqVNJ)

742 493 weft cut loop,

Nope THAT science is settled.

//52%

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 05:44 AM (TE35l)

743 "Thanks for the recipe Slap, I just blew my diet reading the darn thing."
Posted by: Panhandler at April 24, 2014 05:31 AM (LqVNJ)

'Tis a Pot-O-gold at the end of a rainbow.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 05:45 AM (lq3Ak)

744 Slapweasel, not sure on the water sequence. Boil then drain? When does it go back in?

Posted by: Panhandler at April 24, 2014 05:47 AM (LqVNJ)

745 Boil 15 min.

-Drain. All. Water. Salt & Pepper potatoes and add to "other bowl", (w) broccoli.

-Add to Cheese Mixture.

...after you've finished your Cheese Mixture.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 05:52 AM (lq3Ak)

746 -Add "Small Pot" to "Big Pot".

-Dump the Cheese Mixture.

-Add the potato and broccoli to the "Big Pot".

*Drunken Recipes for 4/24.

This was easier when I just did it.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 05:56 AM (lq3Ak)

747 http://tinyurl.com/ka9wt8m

3 US Doctors killed in 'ghani



The U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan confirmed Thursday that three
American doctors were killed by an Afghan security guard who opened fire
at a Kabul hospital.


The shooting at Cure International Hospital in the western part of
the Afghan capital was the latest attack on foreign civilians in the
city this year.



Doctors, doctors if you want to make futile gestures to ungrateful people there's always fucking Detroit.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 06:06 AM (TE35l)

748 -Anyways... when you make a a "rue", you have to stir like crazy. In an aluminum pan. Do Not Use "Non-Stick".

You're introducing the fat in the butter to the fat in the milk. Through flour. All-Purpose-Flour is your Thickening Agent.

Had I given this more thought, I'd have gone with "Chicken Stock" to break-up the butter and flour.

1/2 carton of chicken stock.

I love onions, but I didn't go with them here. My Brother would argue, but I'm settled on Cheese-over-Extras.

Milk + Cheese = Awesome Soup.

I'll Fall Back on this recipe more than once.

...as Tribute.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 06:08 AM (lq3Ak)

749 http://tinyurl.com/lqfg9zp

Ex-NFL QB arrested in AZ.....

Donovan McNabb rolls out of the pocket and into the cruiser

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 06:08 AM (TE35l)

750 man I love this job...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 06:11 AM (TE35l)

751 Barbara Streisand has a big nose, George Clooney a small IQ, and George has a full mustache.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 06:12 AM (TE35l)

752 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 06:14 AM (PYAXX)

753 Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 06:14 AM (PYAXX)

754 753 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 06:14 AM (PYAXX)

Well morning anyway....

I must not be as an avid a lurker as I thought...

there are allegations we're becoming the Free Republic now?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 06:18 AM (TE35l)

755 "Good morning, Horde."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 06:14 AM (PYAXX)

Sir. We've covered "What To Do In Case Of A Suicide", earlier.

*sips Budweiser coffee*

Your orders, Sir?

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 06:23 AM (lq3Ak)

756 Proof that we don't *actually* have to kill them all, and that the Moron Lifestyle is good diplomacy:

http://notalwaysright.com/doesnt-want-to-provide-proof/36662

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 06:23 AM (PYAXX)

757 there are allegations we're becoming the Free Republic now?

Wait. What?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 06:23 AM (PYAXX)

758 "Wait. What?"
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 06:23 AM (PYAXX)

Those are jokes, Sir. They're cruel and unusual, but this is Teh Horde, Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 06:26 AM (lq3Ak)

759 757 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 06:23 AM (PYAXX)

Yeah up in the 3 or 4 hundreds...

I usually try to read the whole thread if I post...

Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2014 11:44 PM (3oRDB)
at 329...

anyway I'd not be a member of any group that'd have me and all that

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 06:27 AM (TE35l)

760 758 Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 06:26 AM (lq3Ak)

Maybe...ever since I started sleeping more than four hours a night I miss a lot.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 06:29 AM (TE35l)

761 George Will calls Obama a really stupid, obnoxious and malicious teenager. He uses the term arrested development. Obama's sycophants immediately display their shared trait with the adored one in the comments. http://tinyurl.com/nxu8fou

Posted by: Lester at April 24, 2014 06:33 AM (2UPXV)

762 Drudge reports RAF had to chase Russian spy planes out of Scottish air space. What was that about?

Posted by: Thunderb at April 24, 2014 06:35 AM (zOTsN)

763 "Maybe...ever since I started sleeping more than four hours a night I miss a lot."
Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 06:29 AM (TE35l)

Heh. Silly Gangsta. I can name that tune in three hours!

*folds*

Sleeping isn't my forte'.

What a shitty "competition". "I sleep less than you".

I'd rather be "nodded off" by now.

Ten beers later.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 06:39 AM (lq3Ak)

764 *static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 06:46 AM (lq3Ak)

765 Morning, Morons.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2014 06:48 AM (Ua6T/)

766 Giddy up.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 24, 2014 06:55 AM (lbN/1)

767 Why does the Federal Government "need" Twenty-Thousand Acres, through the BLM, in Texas?

...out of nowhere?

-Are they testing something?
-Are they proving something?

I'm asking real questions. I have no idea.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 24, 2014 07:00 AM (lq3Ak)

768 >>>
-Are they testing something?
-Are they proving something?

They are coveting.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2014 07:06 AM (Ua6T/)

769 I read some of "Free Republic" years ago. What does it mean when someone says that we are becoming "Free Republic"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:08 AM (XyM/Y)

770 "Are they testing something? "

Yes, the will and resolve of the people of Texas.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 07:08 AM (X2NEw)

771 I read some of "Free Republic" years ago. What does it mean when someone says that we are becoming "Free Republic"?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:08 AM (XyM/Y)


It's shorthand for "unhinged right wing whackjobs."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 07:12 AM (zF6Iw)

772 I believe they are using the BLM for mineral rights. To stop fracking

Posted by: Thunderb at April 24, 2014 07:13 AM (zOTsN)

773 Slap,

no competition...honest injun' I think I established my self-destructive insomia cred back in '12... trying to survive now

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:13 AM (TE35l)

774 O.K. Thanks; I wasn't sure if they were referring to that and/or to discussions on faith and religion.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:13 AM (XyM/Y)

775 Barbara Streisand has a big nose, George Clooney a small IQ, and George has a full mustache.



The chair is against the wall.
John has a long mustache.
The mouse has the cheese.
Over.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 07:14 AM (d0Dmj)

776 "It's shorthand for "unhinged right wing whackjobs.""

Sometimes shortened to .."Freepers"

Usually not intended as a compliment.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 07:14 AM (X2NEw)

777 Mornin', fappers. Lots of long dark night of the soul around the ONT, myself included.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 07:14 AM (mx5oN)

778 Colonel doubles down. Has his buddy say he wasn't drunk. Just sticking up for a "friend". Sniff....sniff

Posted by: Thunderb at April 24, 2014 07:15 AM (zOTsN)

779 772 Thunderb at April 24, 2014 07:13 AM (zOTsN)

You got it...

that is what I am discussing about the evils of an evangelical partisan civil service.

The US government *is* the enemy.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:15 AM (TE35l)

780 Clooney not colonel.

Posted by: Thunderb at April 24, 2014 07:16 AM (zOTsN)

781 776 Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 07:14 AM (X2NEw)

funny I always have read it as "people who give a fuck and can see behind he curtain"....

heh


Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:16 AM (TE35l)

782 Lots of long dark night of the soul around the ONT, myself included.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 07:14 AM (mx5oN)


That's why I stay off it. God knows I feel lousy enough already.

OK, no morning thread yet, and I've got to go. So:

Morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. Here are a couple of quick stories:

After Psycho was released in 1960, director Alfred Hitchcock got a letter from a disgruntled moviegoer. After seeing Janet Leigh butchered in the shower, he wrote, his wife had been afraid to shower or bathe. What, he demanded, did the director suggest they do?

“Sir,” Hitch wrote back, “have you ever considered taking your wife to the dry cleaner?”

In his funny and charming 1959 autobiography Groucho and Me, the great Groucho Marx tells of the time he was walking down State Street in Chicago when a middle-aged couple came up and began circling him, going around two or three times and inspecting him up and down. At last, the wife stammered, “You’re – you’re him, aren’t you? You’re Groucho?” Marx nodded. Then she touched him shyly on the arm.

“Please don’t die,” she smiled. “Just keep on living.”

And that’s it for me today, I think.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 07:17 AM (zF6Iw)

783 Pardon my ignorance, but who is the handsome fellow in the ninth picture above who is standing outside what looks like a college chapel?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:18 AM (XyM/Y)

784 Mornin', fappers freepers. Lots of long dark night of the soul around the ONT, myself included.

Updated, to keep with the morning's meme.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:18 AM (PYAXX)

785 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:18 AM (XyM/Y)

Hillary Clinton...post plastic surgery.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 24, 2014 07:20 AM (QFxY5)

786 784 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:18 AM (PYAXX)

What are you Allen some kind of RWNJ who thinks the feds should not be in the "stealing millions of acres of land" biz?

//Moderate Milquetoast Magni-Sven's Sensitive Cousin

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:20 AM (TE35l)

787 Gabe somehow manages to be late every time I have an early appointment over in town so I am putting the morning news dump here,.


Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, April 24, 2014. On this day in 1933 Nazi Germany began its persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses by shutting down the Watch Tower Society office in Magdeburg. So Jews were not the only ones who received the ire of Hitler. He also did not like Gypsies.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:21 AM (T2V/1)

788 Obama's illegal 90 day "grace period" on paying premiums is going to cost hospitals and doctors a shit-ton of money. And guess who will ultimately pay that.


http://tinyurl.com/k8yaj9v

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:21 AM (T2V/1)

789 782 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 24, 2014 07:17 AM (zF6Iw)

You're missed when you go...

unlike some....

me<----

No seriously most ONTs are lighthearted...

there's still a lot of pain on the dreaded "s" word

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:22 AM (TE35l)

790 TX governor Rick Perry blasts the out of control government over the BLM and its plans to grab a large part of TX. As I said yesterday, I doubt if TX is going to stand for this shit.


http://tinyurl.com/k6edoc9

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:22 AM (T2V/1)

791 Top Al Qeada leader relocates to Syria so he can get some of those Obama bucks too.


http://tinyurl.com/m87so54

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:22 AM (T2V/1)

792 The eco-Nazis are going after a LNG facility in MD now. This proves what we have been long saying here. If you give them an inch they will next want a mile. They never stop.


http://tinyurl.com/kzmabzv

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:22 AM (T2V/1)

793 Obama's illegal 90 day "grace period" on paying premiums is going to cost hospitals and doctors a shit-ton of money.

To quote the great Buffy Summers: "Does the word 'duh' mean anything to you?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:22 AM (PYAXX)

794 Jeb Bush now says he is considering a run in 2016. I am sure the press will be all over that. I say piss on the RINO.


http://tinyurl.com/kyhdfbl

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:22 AM (T2V/1)

795 787 Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:21 AM (T2V/1)

Mormons, Jews, Morons, the Welsh....

Hitler had a lot of villains

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:23 AM (TE35l)

796 The Democraps maintain there is no vote fraud. If so then why are there 44,000 voters registered on BOTH VA and MD?


http://tinyurl.com/n8vo3kl

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:23 AM (T2V/1)

797 And Rand Paul thinks vote fraud is not a big thing.


http://tinyurl.com/msq8bq9

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:23 AM (T2V/1)

798 Yesterday I posted an Easter letter from Pastor Abedini who is currently being held prisoner in a hospital in Iran and, before that he was in prison and was tortured. Here is a letter from prison. I pray this wonderful man might be released to go home to his family in the US but he's not up on the priorities list of the U,S.:

http://tinyurl.com/kc6nbag

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:23 AM (XyM/Y)

799 NJ town thought it was going to paint its water tower which is rusting away. Little did they know the eco-Nazis would use a crow's nest to block them. (You can call them all sorts of names but they are still crows and there is a provision in the law that would allow them to take action. Its called the nuisance provision.)


http://tinyurl.com/loy3nxq

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:23 AM (T2V/1)

800 Jeb Bush now says he is considering a run in 2016. I am sure the press will be all over that. I say piss on the RINO.

I wouldn't waste the piss.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:23 AM (PYAXX)

801 Avril Levigne... another of those young ladies who is much more attractive when she's not trying to sing or speak.

And yes baby, leave the glasses on.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2014 07:24 AM (BeSEI)

802 Meanwhile in MD the town ripped out the nest that Ospreys have built in front of their traffic cameras.


http://tinyurl.com/k7qhxbh

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:24 AM (T2V/1)

803 792 Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:22 AM (T2V/1)

Sooner or later Vic people will figure out that the lack of energy is a gift from "Schemes O'my absent Daddy"

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:24 AM (TE35l)

804 The FCC is trying to back door the Internet control law that was defeated in Congress using executive BS. And don't believe the BS written in this article about Net Neutrality.


http://tinyurl.com/kde8mrq

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:24 AM (T2V/1)

805 Muzzies are suing the feds over the no fly list. I am sure they are FOS over the particulars in this suit, but I am no fan of the feds being able to add someone to the list solely on their say-so.


http://tinyurl.com/l63hmaj

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:24 AM (T2V/1)

806 Is America ready for the "Barbie" movie? Hell, at least it will be something different. IIANM they already have a Barbie cartoon TV show.


http://tinyurl.com/oo7rgr5

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:24 AM (T2V/1)

807 Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:23 AM (TE35l)

To be fair, he might have been right about the Welsh.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:24 AM (PYAXX)

808 Power grid at its limits? So says this article in the DC. I have long been screaming about the shortage in the NE and the far west. Its not just the EPA and other federal agencies who have been killing them more recently. The NE and CA have long been net users from other regions. The reason for that is the NIMBY, NAMBY, and NOPE contingents.


http://tinyurl.com/kn6mhax

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:25 AM (T2V/1)

809 Aunt Zeituni Onyango is no longer on the taxpayer dime in MA. Obama did not attend her funeral. He played golf instead.


http://tinyurl.com/l6scl73

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:25 AM (T2V/1)

810 "funny I always have read it as "people who give a fuck and can see behind he curtain"...."

The usage that I offered is not MY position on Free Republic.

Just the general innertubes usage of it.

Free Republic has some outstanding contributors, and a Moron could do worse IMHO then to periodically spend time reading there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 07:25 AM (X2NEw)

811 Here is one of the many reasons McShitty is not well liked in the conservative community. He likes him some amnesty.


http://tinyurl.com/l8qjdfs

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:25 AM (T2V/1)

812 GA has passed one of the most liberal gun freedom laws in the country.


http://tinyurl.com/n77bvor

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:26 AM (T2V/1)

813 Corrupt Obamanites usher in more new regulations to undermine coal. If you think this is about "miner's health, think again".


http://tinyurl.com/kkogg4u

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:26 AM (T2V/1)

814 The Krautman warns Dems about allowing Obama to run amuck flouting the law.


Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer warned Democrats they will “rue the day” they failed to even once oppose President Obama’s lawless disregard for the constitutional separation of powers, noting his actions establish a precedent a Republican president will one day exploit.


Obviously he is ignoring the history of the spineless Republican Party. And Krautman is no "conservative".


http://tinyurl.com/m8vqtxe

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:26 AM (T2V/1)

815 The 6th circuit court of appeals has blasted the crap out of the EEOC for their blatantly illegal suit against a company for performing "background checks" on new employees. This was the second court loss for this Obamanite overreach and the resulting lawfare of the EEOC. Now, I am sure we the taxpayers will have to foot the bill for all this lawfare. I say it should come totally out of the DOJ budget with nothing more from the taxpayers. And to make up for it cut the salary for all DOJ employees from the top down.


http://tinyurl.com/n85gj5m

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:26 AM (T2V/1)

816 807 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:24 AM (PYAXX)

Beth mae'r fuck wnaethom ni yn ond yn cael ei gyflwyno gan y Saeson?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:26 AM (TE35l)

817 Power grid at its limits?

Which is the only state in the contiguous 48 without its power grid attached to the others?

Oh, right, that'd be Texas. Where we (mostly) don't have power shortages (and would be able to leave out that "mostly" if not for the Feds and the enviro-Nazis).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:27 AM (PYAXX)

818 NJ town thought it was going to paint its water tower which is rusting away. Little did they know the eco-Nazis would use a crow's nest to block them. (You can call them all sorts of names but they are still crows and there is a provision in the law that would allow them to take action. Its called the nuisance provision.)


Only in Jersey. In Texas, they'd already be shot.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 07:27 AM (d0Dmj)

819 Another senseless dog killing.


The sheriff’s department is investigating the matter.


http://tinyurl.com/ltpdtrz

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:27 AM (T2V/1)

820 812 -

I only heard about it on one of those top of the hour radio news broadcasts. Needless to say they were having a conniption fit over it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2014 07:27 AM (BeSEI)

821 Police raid the apartment of an innocent 75 year old woman, kick in her door, tie her up, and question her about nonexistent drugs. It was the wrong apartment. VA taxpayers will be punished for this.


http://tinyurl.com/nxjkwu6

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:27 AM (T2V/1)

822 Oh oh, strike against Perry. He has never been real strong on "immigration" but now he is defending Jeb Bush.


http://tinyurl.com/ko6vsj2

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:27 AM (T2V/1)

823 Another stupid action by the MFM as AP blames the Mt Everest avalanche on Global Warming. Of course there were no avalanches on Mt. Everest in the early days. In fact, the highest cause of death on Mt Everest is avalanches.


http://tinyurl.com/m6xog7n

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:28 AM (T2V/1)

824 The dispicable Erin Brocavich os on Fox and Friends, I'd rather watch another lying Graham ad .

Posted by: tmitsss at April 24, 2014 07:28 AM (Pa9vP)

825 News on the GA Senate race to replace RINO Saxby Chambliss.


http://tinyurl.com/kqr7zhf

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:28 AM (T2V/1)

826 Beth mae'r fuck wnaethom ni yn ond yn cael ei gyflwyno gan y Saeson?
Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:26 AM (TE35l)


What did you just call MWR!?!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:28 AM (PYAXX)

827 Rand Paul wants to give illegals work Visas. More and more he is diminishing in my eyes as a candidate.


http://tinyurl.com/ksdp9bo

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:28 AM (T2V/1)

828 823 Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:28 AM (T2V/1)

Gravity...it gets worse under gorebul warmening....

"really"

//Goreons

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:28 AM (TE35l)

829 What kind of ax is WaPo grinding now? 1.6M Americans do not have indoor plumbing?


http://tinyurl.com/krah2j3

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (T2V/1)

830 Wow, and this is from the Democrat controlled Senate:


The top watchdog for the Department of Homeland Security altered and delayed investigations at the request of senior administration officials, compromising his independent role as an inspector general, according to a new report from a Senate oversight panel.



So the corrupt Obamanites are now pressuring the IG to lie.


http://tinyurl.com/lpj2t9p

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (T2V/1)

831 826 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:28 AM (PYAXX)

English...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (TE35l)

832 Something I have been saying for a while. Congress has the authority on its own to arrest and jail Louis Lerner. But they won't because the RNC has no balls.


http://tinyurl.com/leavbhq

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (T2V/1)

833 NOOD

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (X2NEw)

834 Even the State Department can't come up with any accomplishments from Cankles.


http://tinyurl.com/mrgfb34

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:29 AM (T2V/1)

835 Thousands of American citizens are dumping their citizenship over stupid US tax laws.


http://tinyurl.com/luoyfrc

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (T2V/1)

836 Free Republic has some outstanding contributors, and a Moron could do worse IMHO then to periodically spend time reading there.


Unless one disparages Sashime & Mawliki & gets booted. BTDT.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (d0Dmj)

837 Is there any candidate you would like for President, Vic?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (XyM/Y)

838 Security guard kills three American doctors in Kabul. Far past time to get out of that shit-hole if we are not going to do anything with it.


http://tinyurl.com/ka9wt8m

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (T2V/1)

839 Thousands of American citizens are dumping their citizenship over stupid US tax laws.

Sort of wish I could afford to do this...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (PYAXX)

840 Kindle Daily Deals


http://tinyurl.com/mpe622r


That's it for today folks. And I will be leaving for a dental appointment in a few minutes.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:31 AM (T2V/1)

841 837 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (XyM/Y)

Vic though pretty highly of a young Virginia planter he knew named George...

my list is pretty simple...

1) don't attack the Bill of Rights-flush Chrispy Chreme

2) hey asshole I'll embrace Amigo Grande! just as soon as my cousin can just walk across the border and work in a Ford plant at the Mequila zone given his part of the family did it three generations...

3) Rule of law is more than just a snark from on high it is a two way street

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:35 AM (TE35l)

842 837
Is there any candidate you would like for President, Vic?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 07:30 AM (XyM/Y)

I am holding open until the primaries.

Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:40 AM (T2V/1)

843 842 Posted by: Vic at April 24, 2014 07:40 AM (T2V/1)

I have my two "screw you GOP" guys...

1) Chrispy

2) Jeb

3) Luap Darn or Huckadoodle

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 07:42 AM (TE35l)

844 Steve Doocy FU

Posted by: tmitsss at April 24, 2014 07:50 AM (Pa9vP)

Elizabeth Warren's New Book Rehashes Her Past Vague Claims About Her Alleged Native American Ethnicity, But Fails to Address Any of the Important Questions Asked of Her

Good recap at US News & World report.

First, what’s perhaps most notable about Warren’s book is that she even includes a section called “Native American,” in which she reportedly writes, “Everyone on our mother’s side — aunts, uncles, and grandparents — talked openly about their Native American ancestry. My brothers and I grew up on stories about our grandfather building one-room schoolhouses and about our grandparents’ courtship and their early lives together in Indian Territory.”

This is ironic because, until the Boston Herald first broke the news in April 2012 that Harvard Law School had repeatedly promoted Warren as a Native American faculty member, Warren never once mentioned these stories of her upbringing in a single press interview, speech, class lecture or testimony at any point, ever, in her decades-long career. What's more, Warren was not listed as a minority on her transcript from George Washington University where she began her undergraduate education, nor did she list herself as a minority when applying to Rutgers University Law School in 1973.

In fact, it was not until she was in her 30s and focused on climbing the highly competitive ladder of law school academia that Warren apparently rediscovered her Native American heritage. It’s important to note that entrance and advancement in the law school profession is governed by the Association of American Law Schools, which requires registrants interested in teaching at law schools to fill out a questionnaire detailing their education, experience, bar passage and, yes, ethnicity. This information is then disseminated to law schools around the country that, as Warren surely knew, are always on the lookout to add to the diversity of their faculty.

A copy of Warren's questionnaire currently resides in the Association of American Law Schools archives at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. However, only Warren herself has the authority to release the complete copy of her questionnaire and to date, she has refused to do so.

Her opposition to such transparency can perhaps be understood in the documented fact that in the years thereafter, starting in 1986, Warren began self-reporting herself as a "minority professor" in the Association of American Law Schools staff directory that lists all law school professors around the country. As the former association chairman told the Boston Herald, the directory once served a tip sheet for law school administrators, in the pre-Internet days, who were looking to identify and recruit minority professors.

Remarkably, Warren's explanation to the Boston Herald was that she listed herself as a minority in the hopes that she would be invited to a luncheon so she could meet "people who are like I am" and she stopped checking the box when that didn't happen. Perhaps it "didn't happen" because at no point, at any of the schools she attended or worked at, is there any evidence that Warren ever joined any Native American organizations on campus or in any way interacted with anyone in the Native American community.

The left's claims on this are, as usual, atrocious. They defend Warren (to the extent they'll even address the issue) by claiming that Warren honestly thought she was 1/64th (or was it 1/128th?) Cherokee.

But our "diversity" regime was not set up simply to act as a racial spoils system. The idea behind it is that minorities had themselves likely been harmed in some way by their race in the past -- whether victims of actual racism or not having many advantages in life due to, for example, one's great-great-grandparents being slaves and therefore having started out with almost no money whatsoever and sharply limited earning capacity.

For Elizabeth Warren to Play Indian when it suited her purposes is disgustingly self-serving. She is obviously one of two things:

100% White,

or, by her claim, merely 99.2% white.

Either way, she is White, and her parents were White, and her grandparents were White, and even her great-grandparents were White. I think you have to go to her great-great-grandparents before you find the one (1!) nonwhite contributor to her racial legacy.

In no way has Elizabeth Warren ever suffered the sting of racial animus from White People due her race (which is White), nor have missed out on job opportunities due to her race (which is White), nor does her family start out in a Racial Ditch due to discrimination against its race (which, in case I didn't mention this, is White).

Elizabeth Warren took advantage of racial set-aside employment opportunities for disadvantaged minorities despite never for one second in her entire life being disadvantaged by her race (which is White).

Has she ever been a victim of racism? How would a racist even know to discriminate against her, unless she busted out her "family lore" and showed pictures of her grandmother with her "high cheekbones" and convinced the skeptical racist that she was anything other than a White Person In Good Standing?

Her one "story" (I love how all of this is about "stories" and "feelings" and "narratives") of discrimination is her claim that her great-great-great-grandparents had to elope due to the extreme racial hostility her distant ancestor once allegedly experienced.

And yet those same great-great-great-grandparents had their wedding party right in their home town.

I guess somehow the town got over its extreme hatred of mixed Indian marriages in the few hours between the ceremony and the party.

She could disprove that she took advantages of programs designed to help minorities who are identifiable as such -- you know, people you could actually discriminate against based on appearance because they're, unlike Elizabeth Warren, not Completely, Blindingly, Albino's-Ass-in-Winter White -- but of course she refuses to release her "personal records."

No, she won't release the facts to you.

But she will keep offering up her "stories."

Posted by: Ace at 07:51 PM



Comments

1 Slanted topic, as always.

Posted by: Lou at April 23, 2014 07:53 PM (VR5Zz)

2 All she is trying to do is to make some heap big whampum.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2014 07:55 PM (nzKvP)

3 Meanwhile the Yankess pitcher Pineada just got thrown out of the Red Sox's game for having pine tar on his neck. He needs some lessons in how to hide it and cheat properly. Actually maybe he can ask warren since she is a cheat and liar. See how I tied this into the thread?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2014 07:57 PM (nzKvP)

4 Diversity in appearance, uniformity in thought.

Posted by: Dave S. at April 23, 2014 07:57 PM (UvR6d)

5 She was competing, and winning, against minorities. It was likely a real minorities job that she took. But, she plays for the right team, so all is forgiven.

Posted by: Dave S. at April 23, 2014 08:00 PM (UvR6d)

6 Hey, this is how the system works. If you think you can work an advantage, you'd be a fool not to. It got her into a good law school didn't it? Anyone here would do the same thing. If you say you wouldnt because, principles, well - that and about $4.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 08:00 PM (oMKp3)

7 A copy of Warren's questionnaire currently resides in the Association of American Law Schools archives at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. However, only Warren herself has the authority to release the complete copy of her questionnaire and to date, she has refused to do so.

This sounds sooooo familiar.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 23, 2014 08:00 PM (T0NGe)

8 Hey now come on ace. Let's be fair here. Elizabeth warren does have a definite connection to the Cherokee people. As was reported here her ancestor was on the trail of tears...

Forcing the Cherokee to relocate.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2014 08:00 PM (z/Ubi)

9 Ace I am a dirty Scandi Program from planet Gamma Epsilon XVI....

don't taze me bro!

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:01 PM (TE35l)

10 I love that Professor Jacobson has taken up residency rent free in her head!
He's "Some Blogger"!

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at April 23, 2014 08:01 PM (L4CWX)

11 No integrity requested or required by the university or the party.

I'm shocked.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:03 PM (DmNpO)

12 Still, I say this is why you have to denigrate law school as a credential. The only thing they'll tell you about themselves is that they graduated from law school.

Fine. Let's talk about easy, easy law school.

Let's talk about no-grades Yale. (Harvard is now no-grades too.)

Posted by: AmishDude at April 23, 2014 08:04 PM (T0NGe)

13 My great X 5 or so grandmother is recorded as "Indian Maiden" and was paraded about Europe as evidence that not all of them there red folk were complete savages.

This has obviously greatly impacted my day to day life. Where is my Harvard professorship?

Posted by: Lauren at April 23, 2014 08:04 PM (hFL/3)

14 she is full of shit

my dad's uncle married an native American woman. I fact, looking at her family tree, there was inter marriage all the way back to the revolutionary war

now, this was in the upper Midwest, and not in Oklahoma

but it does not make me in any way native American

furthermore, the department of the interior, and the tribes themselves, kept very good rolls of tribal membership


those tribal and department of the interior tribal rolls existed far before these western states were states and were only territories

if she were ever native American, she would show up on them. If not her, certainly her native American grandparent

this would all very very very easy to prove or disprove

not to mention DNA

she is the example of the worst gaming of the current diversity schemes

what discrimination did she ever endure that it must be alleviated by a preference?

she is, at best, standing on the backs of actual native American applicants

she disgusts me

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:04 PM (zOTsN)

15 "Narrative" has its own special place in word-hell.

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 23, 2014 08:04 PM (HEo6y)

16 Republicans are racist. End of story

Posted by: We-r-fxxxxd at April 23, 2014 08:04 PM (W3Zf/)

17 Someone on another site suggested that from here on out everyone should check the "Native American" box. If Princes High Cheekbones can be native American why can't everyone else?

Posted by: rabidfox at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (COIkl)

18 What a lowlife. Jeb Bush will kick her ass in '16.



*sob*

Posted by: Hopelessness at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (M3K4H)

19 Hey, this is how the system works. If you think you can work an advantage, you'd be a fool not to.

***

Then I am a fool as are all the others with a distant ancestral link to another race but would never dream of exaggerating for our own personal gain.

First of all, there shouldn't be any advantage based upon race!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (DmNpO)

20


I guess somehow the town got over its extreme hatred of mixed Indian
marriages in the few hours between the ceremony and the party.





Sounds like a great plot for a 95 minute RomCom.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (3a584)

21 Mmmmmmmm . . . White woman speak with forked tongue.

Posted by: Chief Two-Dogs-Fucking at April 23, 2014 08:06 PM (hB/NU)

22 My great X 5 or so grandmother is recorded as "Indian Maiden" and was paraded about Europe as evidence that not all of them there red folk were complete savages.

This has obviously greatly impacted my day to day life. Where is my Harvard professorship?

***

I sense how it pains you all these years later.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:06 PM (DmNpO)

23 She's a liar
She's from Mass.
She's a lawyer
She's a progressive
She's an ideologue
She hates the Military ( assumed )

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2014 08:06 PM (nzKvP)

24 19 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (DmNpO)

My Paternal Great Grandfather's mother was full blooded Sioux....

I am an American she was a brave lady to go east to Ohio....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:07 PM (TE35l)

25 BTW my great uncle married my native American aunt in the 1930s

the tribal rolls go back into the late 1700s

and I am told the tribes in Oklahoma kept very good records

she is full of shit

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:07 PM (zOTsN)

26 19 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (DmNpO)

It's not like we have a series of Amendments on the issue or anything....

FUCK I HATE THE LEFT

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:08 PM (TE35l)

27 Would it be considered "microaggression" to play Cherokee Maiden as her walk out music at the first debate?

Posted by: Lauren at April 23, 2014 08:08 PM (hFL/3)

28 Fauxahauntas....

Posted by: backhoe at April 23, 2014 08:09 PM (ULH4o)

29 Would it be considered "microaggression" to play Cherokee Maiden as her walk out music at the first debate?

***

Half Breed

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:09 PM (DmNpO)

30 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (DmNpO)



Oh, sweetie! I hope you didn't think I was being serious. I was just felling a little, umm, Koo Koo.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 08:10 PM (oMKp3)

31 I'm hoping those Cherokee squaw follow her around asking about her lies if she tried to run.

See how the Media covers that up nationally.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:10 PM (JS0vr)

32
Even if, or especially if you agree with afirmative action, she took someone elses spot.

Posted by: Vizzy at April 23, 2014 08:10 PM (OvM+y)

33 But she's also a WOMYN, which makes her a Native Vagino-American! She's many-hued, like a friggin' rainbow.

Posted by: --- at April 23, 2014 08:10 PM (MMC8r)

34
27 - Squaws Along The Yukon?

http://tinyurl.com/lu3lyg6

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 23, 2014 08:11 PM (uopHF)

35 One of my ancestors was adopted by the Shawnee for about four months before he ran away. I didn't figure this was worth mentioning when applying for grad school because. maybe I should have...

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 23, 2014 08:11 PM (kN6FA)

36 8 Hey now come on ace. Let's be fair here. Elizabeth warren does have a definite connection to the Cherokee people. As was reported here her ancestor was on the trail of tears...

Forcing the Cherokee to relocate.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2014 08:00 PM (z/Ubi)



That's right. One of her relatives was involved in forcibly relocating the Cherokees on the "Trail of Tears".

Not the Indian relationship she was thinking of.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:11 PM (doBIb)

37 Do what the cops do: follow her around and when she discards her Starbucks cup in the trash, fish it out and have it dna tested.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 08:11 PM (8c12T)

38 Leave Elizabeth Warren alone!

She's as Indian as I am!

Posted by: Iron Eyes Cody at April 23, 2014 08:11 PM (CTCNK)

39 The only Native American blood her ancestors might have is on their hands.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2014 08:12 PM (z/Ubi)

40 Movie of the Week material!

"My Struggle Against Lies,Stupidity and Republicans!"

Oprah can produce and Moochelle can act as technical advisor.

Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2014 08:12 PM (bJm7W)

41 Yes. And the idea that this woman is a legitimate presidential contender is unbelievably laughable.

She flat out acknowledged after the race against Scott Brown that her best strategy was to not speak. She joked at the press conference the week after the election that she forgot the campaign was over, so now she could talk.

That is how brazenly incompetent she is. In a state that wants nothing more than to vote for Democrats, she was only marginally better than Martha Coakley as a candidate - if that.

In Liberal Massachusetts, Warren underperformed the Obama election numbers by 15%. Obama beat Romney 61-38, but Warren could only beat Brown by 8.

Again, the idea that his person is a national contender is ridiculous on its face. It is amazing that people on the left continue to push this idea. I don't know if they're scared of Hillary and the backlash they could face with her as the nominee, but I cannot possibly imagine Elizabeth Warren could even touch Clinton's numbers in a national election.

Posted by: deadrody at April 23, 2014 08:13 PM (MxIYP)

42 When playing Lone Ranger with the neighborhood kids, she always played Tonto. How much more friggin authentic can you get?

Posted by: --- at April 23, 2014 08:13 PM (MMC8r)

43 I wish I could get the clip from Archer Season 1 Episode 3 (Diversity Hire) where Cheryl asserts that she's 1/64th Cherokee and they all groan at her.

But Fox is fanatical about copyright.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 23, 2014 08:14 PM (T0NGe)

44 I can't see the smoke signals. Come here, Running Also. I'll need to stand on your neck to see what's politically advantageous.

Posted by: Squa Grabbing Wealth at April 23, 2014 08:14 PM (lq3Ak)

45
It would be refreshing if she would just have the courage to say, "you know what, I shouldn't have done that. I should have stood on my own merits and not claimed a disadvantage for being Native American In order to better my chances for that spot. In hindsight. I made an error in judgment. I apologize."

That might actually earn her some respect.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 08:14 PM (oMKp3)

46
there's an ad for WAWA on the main page -- for SizzliTimes , they look like eggamuffins but better

Posted by: Soothie § at April 23, 2014 08:14 PM (fW9N0)

47 She knows all the words to Half Breed.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:15 PM (JS0vr)

48 That's right. One of her relatives was involved in forcibly relocating the Cherokees on the "Trail of Tears".


Far more likely she was related to me then.

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:15 PM (Aqvh6)

49 Amazing all of these left wing superstars never release their college archives.

Warren is a useless piece of twat leather. I despise her. Spit, spits some more

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 23, 2014 08:15 PM (HVff2)

50 Again, the idea that his person is a national contender is ridiculous on its face.

Don't you get it? She was a Harvard Law professor.

That means her IQ is at least, what 80?

Posted by: AmishDude at April 23, 2014 08:15 PM (T0NGe)

51 We've established in law that certain people from certain races are better and more noble than others -- and that White people are the worst of all people and the cause of everything bad.

We hand out goodies and prestige and jobs and precious spots in elite universities if you are one of the Special People, who are Permanently Victimized.

The Permanent Special Victimhood is burned into your ancestor's DNA and passed on down the generations for hundreds and hundreds of years.

Doesn't matter if you are 1% Royalty, or 1% Dragon Blood, or 1% Navajo, or 1% Neo from The Matrix -- it's the same concept, you are Special by BirthRight.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 23, 2014 08:15 PM (ZPrif)

52 I'm amazed, and frankly cheered, by the fact that this even appeared in the MFM. Better end the day on that note.

Posted by: Filly at April 23, 2014 08:16 PM (6O2H2)

53 Actually, the takeaway is what bullshit 'diversity' is.

Posted by: --- at April 23, 2014 08:16 PM (MMC8r)

54 This wannabe native american is not qualified to be a fucking dogcatcher. Goddamn scrunt should just shrivel up and go away somewhere. Preferably back to her make believe reservation. Gives real native americans a bad name.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 23, 2014 08:17 PM (Q8vlx)

55 "Remarkably, Warren's explanation to the Boston Herald was that she listed herself as a minority in the hopes that she would be invited to a luncheon so she could meet "people who are like I am" and she stopped checking the box when that didn't happen."

why does that ring a bell..?

cbs news dot com, Aug 6 1999:

"Mrs. Clinton, who is Methodist, "has very fond childhood memories" of the second husband of her grandmother, Max Rosenberg, a Russian-born Jew, said Howard Wolfson, a spokesman for the first lady's Senate exploratory committee."

and if I ever run for office, I will have very fond memories of the black guy what took care ob the synagogue what I done be bar mitzvahed at, ya'all.

Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2014 08:17 PM (bJm7W)

56 I've seen things you can't even imagine, the great herds of crabs migrating across the plain.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 23, 2014 08:17 PM (dMSj2)

57 Posted by: rabidfox at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (COIkl)

Hmmm... interesting idea...


My ancestors have been here since before this was a country....

And I was born here...

So....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 23, 2014 08:17 PM (84gbM)

58 First of all, there shouldn't be any advantage based upon race!

It's the disadvantages accrued by race that I'm concerned about.

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:17 PM (Aqvh6)

59
Florida took out the trash, too!

Robert Hendrix executed for brutal Lake killings

http://goo.gl/bdM1qz

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 08:18 PM (8c12T)

60 Doesn't matter what she is, it's what people want to believe.

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2014 08:18 PM (g/zj9)

61 56 alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 23, 2014 08:17 PM (dMSj2)

Majesty you should see how tough it is to beat the mighty buffalo to the prairie scallops....

//Lieawatha "Liz" Warren

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:19 PM (TE35l)

62 If you say you wouldnt because, principles, well - that and about $4.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.


Klaatu - Sell Out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHJBO3eWQm0

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 08:19 PM (0HooB)

63 Jindal/Haley '16!

The real Indian ticket!

Posted by: --- at April 23, 2014 08:19 PM (MMC8r)

64 My ancestors have been here since before this was a country....

Hey mine too, except they were killing indians, so that doesn't count.

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:19 PM (Aqvh6)

65 56 I've seen things you can't even imagine, the great herds of crabs migrating across the plain.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 23, 2014 08:17 PM (dMSj2)



All those moments will be lost...in time...like tears in rain.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:19 PM (doBIb)

66 Liz Warren Claimed to be 1/32nd Indian, and the elope story was her parents. (She claimed her grandparents were super racist about the marriage, yet the families got along in later years)

She never listed her heritage in anything but professional journals, EEOC filings and other career-helping ways. She is a fabulist in the tradition of Munchhausen.

She also falsified data in her "economic" research and her very very stupid books.

Worse of all her populist progressivism is essentially Italian model fascism.

Posted by: coondawg68 at April 23, 2014 08:20 PM (8UBs9)

67
I still say the true test would be to hang her by her pecs for 48 hours.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 08:20 PM (8c12T)

68

I have no Wawa's in my region, but it sounds vaguely familiar.

Posted by: Soothie § at April 23, 2014 08:20 PM (fW9N0)

69 First of all, there shouldn't be any advantage based upon race! Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:05 PM (DmNpO) _________________________________
Prohibiting racial preferences is racist! Didn't you listen to anything I said yesterday?

Posted by: Justice Sonia Sotomayor (D. Puerto Rico) at April 23, 2014 08:20 PM (YlsjN)

70 I could have done that. My mom always said we were part Choctaw. The fact that to this day I cannot grow sideburns and one of my brothers is virtually hairless on half of his body lent credence to my mom's claim.

Seemed dishonest. If we were registered with the tribe, that would be different. But I look in the mirror and I look white.

Turns out, like Lizzy, my mom was full of family history baloney. The Indian Princess that my great grandfather was married to turn out to be white.

Mom had another great story about us being related to Gen. Ben McCulloch.

Different, unrelated, McCulloch.

Yeah. Mom's fake genealogy was much more interesting than reality.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 08:20 PM (V70Uh)

71 if she were NA her relatives, and her, would be on US Indian Census rolls

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:20 PM (zOTsN)

72 64 Jean at April 23, 2014 08:19 PM (Aqvh6)

My ancestors of my surname beat the nation by ~96 years and beat America to Ohio by about ten....

I am a native American and as we were here before the United States by God in heaven we will be here the fuck after.

No more running from assholes who hate Republics.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:21 PM (TE35l)

73 Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 23, 2014 08:20 PM (8c12T)

Why bother? She's already delusional.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:21 PM (JS0vr)

74 >>> See how the Media covers that up nationally.

They didn't are in 2012.

Posted by: fluffy at April 23, 2014 08:21 PM (Ua6T/)

75 Anybody who checks the "White" box is kinda stupid.
Free shit if check the other, mixed, hispanic, Indian, etc, boxes.

And the Diversity Nazis won't call you on it. No matter how White you really are. Just check the fuckin' box and get some of that Affirmative Action for you and yours.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 23, 2014 08:22 PM (ZPrif)

76 Actually, the takeaway is what bullshit 'diversity' is.

It has replaced merit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (0HooB)

77 65 EC at April 23, 2014 08:19 PM (doBIb)

All those moments will be lost...in time..]like tears in rainon the trail....

Hey you you Cherokee asshole get off my fucking lawn

//Lez Warren's Grandpappy

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (TE35l)

78 Hillary will go full Wounded Knee on her if she gets in her way.

Posted by: --- at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (MMC8r)

79 I've seen things you can't even imagine, great dams taming rivers!, a prosperous middle class, rivers of steel born by men freeing the world, brilliance harnessing the atom, and rockets taking man to the moon!; oh wait, those were white guy things, sorry they suck

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (Aqvh6)

80
The thing is, if you go back far enough, everybody is something else. And today, there's a dramatic increase In multicultural marriages, resulting in multicultural children. So why are we even bothering to label people by race or ethnicity any more ? It's like trying to separate the sugar out of your sweet tea.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (oMKp3)

81 I am related, by marriage, to a descendant of the Marquis De Sade. That's right. The stompy boots, whips, and chains stuff.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (doBIb)

82 if it were her parents or grandparents, they would be on the US Indian Census Rolls 1880-1940

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (zOTsN)

83 After quite a bit of earnest study and sincere introspection ... I renounce the crass, simplistic racial/sexist stereotypes forced upon me by you all.


I am no longer simply a Caucasian Male. I am now an Irish-American of the Penile Persuasion. You will address me as such.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (v3BJ5)

84
She is a fabulist in the tradition of Munchhausen. She also falsified data in her "economic" research and her very very stupid books. Worse of all her populist progressivism is essentially Italian model fascism.
Posted by: coondawg68




Still kicked my ass.

Posted by: Scott Brown 2014 - This Time for Sure. Presto!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (kdS6q)

85 Only evil white racists with their disgustingly pale skin would say we shouldn't have racial preferences.

Posted by: Wise Latina at April 23, 2014 08:24 PM (ZPrif)

86 Of late, I have been checking Mixed Race on every form that asks the question. I think I have more African than Warren has Cherokee. Certainly more Amerind.

Posted by: tobias minderbinder at April 23, 2014 08:24 PM (QupBk)

87 Dammit

Posted by: toby928© at April 23, 2014 08:24 PM (QupBk)

88 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (v3BJ5)

A Mick Dick?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:24 PM (JS0vr)

89
What's more fun to say?

a) Wawa
b) Winn Dixie
c) Piggly Wiggly

Posted by: Soothie § at April 23, 2014 08:25 PM (fW9N0)

90 Like many here, I am between two and three times as "native" as Warren is. My mother could have been enrolled as a tribe member but she was, her words, "too proud." I check the box every time it looks like I can fuck up somebody's statistics, but the idea that I could play my great-great-grandmother's tribal identity into grad school funding, it never crossed my mind. And I'm three or more years younger than Warren, showing what an innovative thinker she really was in 1973.

I was accepted at a Harvard graduate school (not her major though), but my white "ancestors" were unwilling to undertake the risk of backing me or co-signing. Loans were different then, as, I guess, were free rides. I'm not overly bitter, not until I have to think of her as a member of the ruling elite. Then my Injun temper gets up some.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 23, 2014 08:25 PM (xq1UY)

91 75 Anybody who checks the "White" box is kinda stupid.
Free shit if check the other, mixed, hispanic, Indian, etc, boxes.

When asked I check "other", and then write in "Virginian" on the line. Waiting for my free shit, I'll take something from the CMP.

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:25 PM (Aqvh6)

92 Hillary's Indian name?

Hunting Beaver.

Posted by: --- at April 23, 2014 08:25 PM (MMC8r)

93 Jean,

I like your sense of humor.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 08:25 PM (V70Uh)

94 89 Soothie § at April 23, 2014 08:25 PM (fW9N0)

Abbatoir the new Goth convenience store on main street...


Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:25 PM (TE35l)

95 Ever notice how every minority has a derogatory name for white people?

Yet somehow only white people are racist.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:26 PM (JS0vr)

96 My ancestors have been here since before this was a country....

And I was born here...

So....


Same here. I wonder when we get to claim our birthright?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 08:26 PM (0HooB)

97 Posted by: --- at April 23, 2014 08:25 PM (MMC8r)

More like Licking Beaver.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:26 PM (JS0vr)

98 Piggly Wiggly?

We just call it "The Pig."

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 23, 2014 08:27 PM (V70Uh)

99 23andMe... the best solution to the question.

Posted by: Cate at April 23, 2014 08:27 PM (chLX1)

100 I am related, by marriage, to a descendant of the Marquis De Sade. That's right. The stompy boots, whips, and chains stuff.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (doBIb)


*sidles over*

Hi. How you doin'?

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 23, 2014 08:27 PM (dMSj2)

101
I'm mixed race. Part Swede, part Norwegian. Nobody knows de trouble I seeeennn.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 08:27 PM (oMKp3)

102 she did it in 1973??

The Wounded Knee incident began on February 27, 1973, when approximately 200 Oglala Lakota and followers of the American Indian Movement (AIM) seized and occupied the town of Wounded Knee, South Dakota, on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.


from wiki

fucking poser

she was too late to join the weather underground and the black panthers wouldnt take her flat ass

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:28 PM (zOTsN)

103 Diversity means strength. If you put young brown democrats in the same room with young white democrats, they'll outnumber young white republicans, whose views will be cowed into submission. See? Strength!

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2014 08:28 PM (g/zj9)

104 101 Grammie winger at April 23, 2014 08:27 PM (oMKp3)

my nick is at least dirty Scandi....

I guess it makes me an "Anglandi"

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:28 PM (TE35l)

105 Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 08:27 PM (oMKp3)

Damn lutefisk gobbling scandi.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:28 PM (JS0vr)

106 documentary about Soaring Cuckoo Warren's Indian ancestor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLd8TrYtH9w

Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2014 08:29 PM (bJm7W)

107 100 I am related, by marriage, to a descendant of the Marquis De Sade. That's right. The stompy boots, whips, and chains stuff.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:23 PM (doBIb)

*sidles over*

Hi. How you doin'?
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 23, 2014 08:27 PM (dMSj2)



I know!

I told my wife, now that I learned that bit of family trivia, it gives me license to let my freak flag fly!


"Go make me a sandwich! In your corset!"


Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:29 PM (doBIb)

108 105 Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:28 PM (JS0vr)

No Lute no peace, Know Lute KNOW peace...or ballistic flatulence YMMV.

//Sven of Essen

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (TE35l)

109 Wawa celebrated its 50th birthday last week.

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2014/04/16/wawa-50th-anniversary-50-facts/

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (a5ljo)

110 If you had to choose between Bush and Warren....

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (L02KD)

111 >>> I'm mixed race. Part Swede, part Norwegian. Nobody knows de trouble I seeeennn.

Will you get drunk and yell at yourself on May 17?

Posted by: fluffy at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (Ua6T/)

112 It's not clear if the Diversity Nazis actually handout the Free Shit for other or mixed race box checkers.

We know they hand out the Free Shit for black, hispanic, and Native America box checkers.

Sometimes they hand it out for asian box checkers, but often not. For college admissions, whatever you do, don't check "asian". That adds 100-200 pts on the SAT you need to get.

"Hispanic" or "latino" is the ideal box to check since there's no way you can be called on it. You can be pure blood Spaniard and get Affirmative Action. You can be pure blood German, descended from Nazis who fled to Uruguay and get Affirmative Action.

With Amerindian you run the risk of getting called out because the tribes actually keep records cause they don't want to split the Fed money they get.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (ZPrif)

113

I'm British-American.

Where's my checkbox?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (0HooB)

114 If we keep this up, can we get the Walton's back on the air?

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (Aqvh6)

115 Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (L02KD)

I'd hang myself.

Which may happen in '16.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:31 PM (JS0vr)

116 113

I'm British-American.

Where's my checkbox?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (0HooB)



Loyalist or rebel?

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:31 PM (doBIb)

117 I'm a whitino.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:32 PM (JS0vr)

118
haven't you heard?

today you can "self identify" as whatever you please

Posted by: Soothie § at April 23, 2014 08:32 PM (fW9N0)

119 she was applying for jobs in 1973

right after the American Indian Movement shoot out at Wounded Knee

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:32 PM (zOTsN)

120 Walton's were White Privilege and everything wrong with America.

Posted by: Wise Latina at April 23, 2014 08:32 PM (ZPrif)

121 I would check my Give-A-Shit Meter but I threw it away because it always read "zero."

Posted by: tangonine at April 23, 2014 08:32 PM (x3YFz)

122 I'm French/German. What box do I check again? Surrendering warmonger?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (Q8vlx)

123 BackwardsBoy, is a a Tory bitch. Burn his barn tonight.

Posted by: Over the mountain boys at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (Aqvh6)

124 Sometimes they hand it out for asian box checkers, but often not. For college admissions, whatever you do, don't check "asian". That adds 100-200 pts on the SAT you need to get.


That shit makes me laugh.


That's like reverse meta-racism.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (doBIb)

125 117 Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:32 PM (JS0vr)

Oddly as Sonia Sotomeyer is Codename Wise Latina I am Codename-Barely Coherent Anglo-Tueton

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (TE35l)

126 Posted by: fluffy at April 23, 2014 08:30 PM (Ua6T/)



I'm gonna hit the glogg and chase after myself with a Husqvarna.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (oMKp3)

127 So when whites are the minority, will they get a checkbox?

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (g/zj9)

128 Wawa is the Lenni-Lenape name for goose.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (a5ljo)

129 Good recap at US News World report.

Well, yeah, it's an opinion piece by a Republican operative. Doesn't make it any less true, it's a good, fact-filled article, but it will be written off and ignored for that reason.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (I8YZX)

130 the spring of 1973 Wounded Knee was all over the papers

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (zOTsN)

131 You know nothing of discrimination.

*sob*

Posted by: WonderBread - American at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (5ikDv)

132 I'm half storm giant, half pixie.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (Cq0oW)

133 Short story, and suming up:

She's lying.
She's a liberal who lies (shocked!)

The end.

Posted by: tangonine at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (x3YFz)

134 We haven't heard yet what tribe MooMoo has chosen. You know he has one.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (xq1UY)

135 After figuring out that my Great Grandparents were German, (Dad) and Jewish-Slovaks, (Mom)-?

I finally figured out why my right hand would lead my left hand into the shower.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (lq3Ak)

136 >>> I'm gonna hit the glogg and chase after myself with a Husqvarna.

Uff da!

Posted by: fluffy at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (Ua6T/)

137 134 We haven't heard yet what tribe MooMoo has chosen. You know he has one.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (xq1UY)



Whichever one that's been fucked over the greatest.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (doBIb)

138 and I want Warren to explain this:

"In September 2011, the Cherokee Nation tried to expel 2,800 black members who were descended from the slaves of Cherokee members."

ny times: http://tinyurl.com/mwnss3q

Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (bJm7W)

139 white bread and miracle whip.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:35 PM (JS0vr)

140 132 I'm half storm giant, half pixie.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 08:33 PM (Cq0oW)

That's you're 3.5 goodness right there.

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:35 PM (Aqvh6)

141 She's more like the pasty posterchild for Das deutsche Bundesmädchen

Posted by: Trotsky with an ice-pick in his head at April 23, 2014 08:35 PM (x0sN7)

142 So when whites are the minority, will they get a checkbox?
---

That's an excellent question.

No.

Posted by: Wise Latina at April 23, 2014 08:35 PM (ZPrif)

143 135 After figuring out that my Great Grandparents were German, (Dad) and Jewish-Slovaks, (Mom)-?

I finally figured out why my right hand would lead my left hand into the shower.
Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (lq3Ak)




Thread winner and I'm going to hell for laughing.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:35 PM (doBIb)

144 In no way has Elizabeth Warren ever suffered the sting of racial animus
from White People due her race (which is White), nor have missed out on
job opportunities due to her race (which is White), nor does her family
start out in a Racial Ditch due to discrimination against its race
(which, in case I didn't mention this, is White).


Ummm. Affirmative Action. Of course, she will not make that argument, but the whole reason it was advantageous to her to claim to be "Native American" is that universities were (and are) discriminating against Whites in order to hire minorities. Asians might get all the press lately, but Whites are very much discriminated against in both education and hiring.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (IN7k+)

145 138 mallfly at April 23, 2014 08:34 PM (bJm7W)

Sadly my GOP Cherokee brothers and sisters are as racist as the White Man's GOP....

//Lieawatha "Lez" Warren

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (TE35l)

146 my grandma used to call on Christmas Eve and pretend to be Santa

that doesn't make me a Claus

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (zOTsN)

147 Loyalist or rebel?

Rebel. An officer in the British Army circa 1750.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (0HooB)

148 Heck, I guess I'd finally be employed if I just started lying about my race. But I'd probably get caught because...conservative.

Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (HDwDg)

149 Screw all you people ... Rock Ridge never said;

"But we don't want the Scandis" etc... etc...

Frankly ... in a just world ... closing liquor stores ought to be a hate crime against MY people. The Irish.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (v3BJ5)

150 Well.... here in California... children can now choose which sex they are...

So... if we can choose sex... why not Race?

Yep.... I disavow and condemn all your Race Normative categories that say I'm white...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (84gbM)

151 Liz Warren is just as White as Barack Obama (he just looks darker because he is full of sh*t)

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (e8kgV)

152 I used this sock last week when I last posted, and forgot to wring it off. Now it is timely again.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warrren at April 23, 2014 08:37 PM (l3vZN)

153 148 Heck, I guess I'd finally be employed if I just started lying about my race. But I'd probably get caught because...conservative.
Posted by: tsrblke (Phone) at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (HDwDg)



If you get caught, do what they do: distract and divert attention to your racist accuser.

Posted by: EC at April 23, 2014 08:37 PM (doBIb)

154 "That shit makes me laugh.


That's like reverse meta-racism. "

It is 100% true though. If you are Asian, but have a name that could pass as white, don't check the Asian box under any circumstance. It's the kiss of death in college admissions.

The valedictorian of my high school had a perfect SAT score, volunteered for 3 different groups, lots of extra curriculars...

Rejected from Harvard.

Guess her race.

Posted by: Lauren at April 23, 2014 08:37 PM (hFL/3)

155 Off, you fraudulent sock.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 23, 2014 08:37 PM (l3vZN)

156 142 So when whites are the minority, will they get a checkbox?
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That's an excellent question.

No.

Posted by: Wise Latina at April 23, 2014 08:35 PM (ZPrif)


Central California? We already are.... and... no...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 23, 2014 08:38 PM (84gbM)

157 I honor of Chief Full-Of-Shit Warren, I say we each #NameOurOwnTribe and #ChooseOurOwnIndianName

I am Talks With Cats of the Moron Tribe

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:38 PM (DmNpO)

158 I have Filipino relatives who insist on checking the "asian" box. Dumbest asian people on the planet.
You look like a Mexican and your name is Jose -- stop checking the fucking "asian" box!!! Do you want your entire family to go to community college!!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 23, 2014 08:38 PM (ZPrif)

159 It is 100% true though. If you are Asian, but have a name that could pass as white, don't check the Asian box under any circumstance. It's the kiss of death in college admissions.

College admissions, hell, it causes problems around here with high school admissions.

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:39 PM (Aqvh6)

160 Elizabeth Warren took advantage of racial set-aside employment
opportunities for disadvantaged minorities despite never for one second
in her entire life being disadvantaged by her race (which is White).


Bullshit. The racial set asides are not reserved for disadvantaged minorities, they are reserved for any preferred minorities.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 23, 2014 08:39 PM (IN7k+)

161 And now I will tell you stories the elders told me when I was your age about Coyote and the White Buffalo.

But first, you will blow the peyote button.

Posted by: White Dove Warren at April 23, 2014 08:39 PM (oJUxt)

162 I've kind of missed the musings from the wise Fauxcahontis

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 23, 2014 08:39 PM (M+evy)

163 157 I honor of Chief Full-Of-Shit Warren, I say we each #NameOurOwnTribe and #ChooseOurOwnIndianName

I am Talks With Cats of the Moron Tribe

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:38 PM (DmNpO)


LOL.... in Elizabethan Fencing circles???

I'm Grey Wolf, of the Band of Black Tigers...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 23, 2014 08:40 PM (84gbM)

164 re 151: he might be whiter: have you ever seen Sen Lying Beaver Bleachblond on a golfcourse?

Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2014 08:40 PM (bJm7W)

165 When Whites are a minority they will be treated the way the Chinese minority are treated in places like Malaysia.

Or the White minority in South Africa.
Or Jews in Europe.

Allowed to prosper, have everything blamed on them, and suffer from the occasional genocidal riot.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 23, 2014 08:40 PM (ZPrif)

166 I am Swen from the Hell on Wheels Tribe hear me roawr....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:40 PM (TE35l)

167
Warren is 3 yrs younger than hill clinton, fyi.

Posted by: Soothie § at April 23, 2014 08:41 PM (fW9N0)

168 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 23, 2014 08:40 PM (ZPrif)

So. Nothing will change, huh?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:41 PM (JS0vr)

169 Her pet project, The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), now examines tens of millions of Americans' personal financial transactions every year without the need for any warrant or permission but hey, don't worry, they say they delete all personal identifying information before adding it into their database. They need to examine all finances of every American so they can make sure things are "fair". I wonder if they have examined her multimillion dollar investments and questionable business dealings. Probably not since she hates the 1% and those rich republicans.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 23, 2014 08:41 PM (mXij7)

170 >>> I am Talks With Cats of the Moron Tribe

Can't Find The Moose of the Fugawi band.

Posted by: fluffy at April 23, 2014 08:41 PM (Ua6T/)

171 Oh, I should add that she was the valedictorian of a class of over 500. Weighted GPAs. No ties.

At least she got in to Stanford.

Posted by: Lauren at April 23, 2014 08:41 PM (hFL/3)

172 167 Soothie § at April 23, 2014 08:41 PM (fW9N0)

Yup she is the hot young face of the Democrat "youth movement"...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2014 08:41 PM (TE35l)

173 163 157 I honor of Chief Full-Of-Shit Warren, I say we each #NameOurOwnTribe and #ChooseOurOwnIndianName

I am the Roach with Steely Eyes, the tribe of survivors.

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:42 PM (Aqvh6)

174 I still don't get the affirmative action for Hispanics/Latinos. Blacks, OK slavery. Native Americans, fine pushed off land. But Spanish is not a handicap.

Also, I wonder why blacks don't get more upset at the widening of affirmative action categories. Increasingly, they're losing out on the special set-asides.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 23, 2014 08:42 PM (T0NGe)

175 I am Yob, of the Fuckawee.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 23, 2014 08:42 PM (0HooB)

176 *raises right hand*

How.

Posted by: Three Wolf Moon Short Sleeve T of the Amazonians at April 23, 2014 08:42 PM (5ikDv)

177 I'm Grey Wolf, of the Band of Black Tigers...

I am Jiggling Stoat of Clan McDrunken.

Posted by: toby928© at April 23, 2014 08:43 PM (QupBk)

178 I am Slapping Weasels of the Tanning Hides Tribe.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 23, 2014 08:43 PM (lq3Ak)

179 Frankly ... in a just world ... closing liquor stores ought to be a hate crime against MY people. The Irish.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2014 08:36 PM (v3BJ5)

I love people who can laugh at themselves. That must be why I hate liberals.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 23, 2014 08:43 PM (ynL/v)

180 Me know how.

Me just want to know WHEN.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 23, 2014 08:43 PM (JS0vr)

181 Allowed to prosper, have everything blamed on them, and suffer from the occasional genocidal riot.


That might not work out the same way as it does elsewhere.

Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2014 08:43 PM (Aqvh6)

182 Dangit! I should have saved that for an open thread.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2014 08:43 PM (DmNpO)

183 Phuck. Phuck of The Mountains

/off carlin

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 23, 2014 08:44 PM (Cq0oW)

184 Bullshit. The racial set asides are not reserved for disadvantaged minorities, they are reserved for any preferred minorities.

Asians are starting to figure this out.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 23, 2014 08:44 PM (T0NGe)

185 she didn't build that

Posted by: thunderb at April 23, 2014 08:44 PM (zOTsN)

186 176
*raises right hand*

How.

Posted by: Three Wolf Moon Short Sleeve T of the Amazonians at April 23, 2014 08:42 PM (5ikDv)

You smokum peacepipe?

Posted by: Tribe of the Howling Wolf painted on back window at April 23, 2014 08:44 PM (M+evy)

187 rats. I think I go home.

Posted by: mallfly at April 23, 2014 08:45 PM (bJm7W)

188 My heritage is Nordic and Germanic.


So. Question: why do American Indians get favored status to begin with?

You were conquered? Enslaved? So fucking what. Join the club and quit your goddam whining.

Bullshit on a stick.

Posted by: tangonine at April 23, 2014 08:45 PM (x3YFz)

189
Will this book outsell "Pow-Wow Chow"?

And how!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 23, 2014 08:45 PM (YbCsp)

190 Flatbush, I'll just check "Mixed." The Mixed majority won't care. Only racist blacks and aztlanders will be problems.

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2014 08:46 PM (g/zj9)

191 You have to remember the great historical discrimination the Latinos have suffered in America.

Think of the millions of young Mex-Americans who arrived here in the 1990s during the Clinton administration. It was a dark time for my people.

If you can imagine, there was no ESPN Deportes. Only Univsion and Telemundo.

Of course, the W