Overnight open Thread (12-26-2012)

Is It Time For Conservatives to Sit Down in the Snow?

At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, "I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?"

"You get nothing," the president said. "I get that for free."

William Jacobson of Legal Insurrection argues that in the face of an Administration determined to run the country off the fiscal cliff and hang the blame on them perhaps it's time for Conservatives to begin acting like true dissidents:

Sharansky spend almost a decade in Soviet prison because of his activities on behalf of Jews who wanted to emigrate to Israel. Sharansky was subjected to torture and other indignities, but never lost his spirit. Sharansky notoriously refused to obey even the most mundane orders from his captors. Sharansky understood that to compromise even a little would lead to compromising a lot. Throughout his ordeal, Sharansky kept his spirits alive by reading a small book of psalms.

As Sharansky was being led to the airplane that would take him from the Soviet Union to East Germany for the exchange, the Soviets confiscated his book of psalms.It would have been easy for Sharansky simply to keep walking towards the plane and freedom. But Sharansky understood that the Soviets confiscated his book of psalms not because they wanted the book, but because they wanted to show that even in this last moment, they were in control.

In front of reporters covering his departure, Sharansky sat in the snow refusing to move unless the Soviets gave him back his book of psalms. Here was this diminutive man, after 10 years in prison, on the verge of freedom, refusing to budge unless one of the world's two superpowers gave him back his book. And give him back his book of psalms they did. Sharansky proceeded to the plane, where he read Psalm 30: "I will extol thee, O Lord; for thou hast lifted me up, and hast not made my foes to rejoice over me."

...Isn't it time for conservatives and supporters of free enterprise, individual liberty, and capitalism in the Congress and elsewhere to do the political equivalent of sitting down in the snow? When told by the new administration, the majority party in Congress, and the mainstream media to walk straight, isn't it time to zig and zag?

The GOP could learn a few lessons from the Refuseniks.

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RIP Robert Bork

Remembering the man and the legacy of viciousness against him created by the Democrats.

The vicious campaign waged against Judge Bork set a new low-possibly never exceeded-in the exhibition of unbridled leftist venom, indeed hate.  Reporters combed through the Borks trash hoping to find compromising tidbits; they inspected his movie rentals, and were disgusted to find the films of John Wayne liberally represented.  So hysterical was the campaign against Judge Bork that a new transitive verb entered our political vocabulary: "To Bork," scruple at nothing in order to discredit and defeat a political figure. Monsieur Guillotine gave his name to that means of execution; "progressives," those leftists haters of America who have so disfigured our national life since the 1960s, gave us the this new form of character assassination.  The so-called "Lion of the Senate," Ted Kennedy, surely one of the most despicable men ever to hold high public office in the United States (yes, that's saying something), stood on the Senate floor and emitted a serious of calumnious  lies designed not simply to prevent Judge Bork from being appointed to the Supreme Court but to soil his character irretrievably.

In any previous time Ted Kennedy would have been challenged to a duel for his libel.

The 30 Best Mugshots Of 2012

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Lead and Violent Crime

Before lead was removed from gasoline, lead from car exhaust got into the air, was breathed in by kids, lowered their IQs, and increased crime rates (there is a very strong correlation between IQ and criminal behavior).

Jessica Reyes regressed violent crime rates in all 51 state (including DC) between the years 1985 and 2002 against a number of independent variables.

She found three of significance (at the 5% level):

  1. average grams of lead per gallon of gasoline while arrestees were -1 to 3 years of age;
  2. whether or not abortion was legal; and
  3. beer consumption per capita.

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100 Riffs of Rock and Roll

Hear the guitar riffs and see the matching tab notation.

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Those Who Believe in "Soul Mates" Are 150% More Likely to End Up Divorced

Dr. Helen comments:

This makes sense as it seems to be that people who have realistic expectations of marriage and people are more likely to have better marriages. Those people who are picky and have "high standards" seem to do worse in the relationship department. Maybe a good question when trying to figure out if a date is a good marriage prospect is to ask him or her is he/she believes in soulmates. If yes, think twice, if no, see where it goes.

FWIW, I never believed in soulmates. My husband says that soulmates are made, not found. Perhaps there is some truth in that.

I've never believed in the idea of a soulmate either. There are lots of people who would make a good match in life - some fantastically great and some just pretty damn good. IMO believing in a soulmate is often an indicator of unrealistic expectations and over-idealization of people in general. And over-idealization inevitably leads to contempt. Danger Will Robinson!!

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Comments

1

too early

Posted by: soothsayer at December 26, 2012 09:18 PM (+oin+)

2 WEeeeeee!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 09:19 PM (KDq5l)

3 How bad are the mugshots? Last time, I clicked on of those on the ONT, one of those hideous faces reappeared in my dreams.

Posted by: L, elle at December 26, 2012 09:22 PM (0PiQ4)

4 I believe in soul food! Pass the cornbread and collards, please!

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 26, 2012 09:22 PM (3lMuc)

5 Soul mates can be determined by one thing , if the Man is compliant to his wifes wishes...Therefor he has no Cajones and has been rendered useless...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 26, 2012 09:24 PM (rBK2Z)

6 not first. merry christmas morons. and happy new year.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 26, 2012 09:24 PM (JvP2I)

7 I think only women believe in soulmates and Mark Sanford

Posted by: L, elle at December 26, 2012 09:24 PM (0PiQ4)

8 Why doesn't Ogden Recreation just kill that sign? The obnoxious parents were clearly yelling at their kids in the public interest.

Posted by: Glenn Thrush at December 26, 2012 09:24 PM (9F2c1)

9 Mentioned in the Skyfall thread how Hollywood avoids using the best available villains,islamic terrorists.Keep going to the evil Nazi well guys(or the evil white man ala Django).Meanwhile tons of real life stuff happening that would make great plot lines gets left out for political correctness.Even Acts of Valor though had to get the jew arms dealer in there.

Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2012 09:24 PM (9XBK2)

10 Obama has a pole mate reggie

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 26, 2012 09:25 PM (FvWRE)

11 FWIW, I never believed in soulmates. My husband says that soulmates are made, not found. Perhaps there is some truth in that.

Bingo. Mrs. Sailor and I were arguing about something the other day and I stopped and started laughing, She said "What?'

I replied "I like the way we fight now."

"Well it took twenty years" She says, then we forgot what we were fighting about.

Posted by: David at December 26, 2012 09:25 PM (l86i3)

12 Good evening.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND seeing Les Miserables. Great movie.

Maybe not for fans of musicals or operas. It was a little strange to find out it was basically an opera with every last bit of dialogue sung instead of spoken. I mean I knew it was a musical, but the opera-ness of it was news to me.

But it was AMAZING! Tom Hooper, who directed The King's Speech, outdoes himself here.

Hugh Jackman should win awards.

Anne Hathaway should win awards.

Russell Crowe should win awards.

Outstanding movie. Seriously, five stars.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:26 PM (LUnTP)

13 they inspected his movie rentals,


IIRC, a Federal law was passed that made movie rental history private because of Bork. After all, Our Betters didn't want their rental histories to become public.


On the soul mates thing, I've always found that to be full of crap. I mean, sure, I love it as a fic trope but in real life? Is this someone who I will not want to smother with a pillow in a month is a far better test.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:26 PM (Gk3SS)

14 not first. merry christmas morons. and happy new year.
Posted by: whiskey tango[i/]

Right back at'cha, Dub' T.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 09:26 PM (KDq5l)

15 Darn sock

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:26 PM (l86i3)

16 Evening Horde. Not here long, but I'll make up for it by not saying anything interesting.

Was Santa good to y'all? Apparently, DC was a very good boy this year.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 09:27 PM (Ai+tZ)

17 Sen Ted Kennedy put every person in the 1980's Navy at risk with his disclosures of TS info to the Soviets. May that murdering waste of sperm burn eternally just for that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2012 09:27 PM (u82oZ)

18 Soulmates- Marriage is work. Find someone you love and work to keep it that way.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at December 26, 2012 09:27 PM (WVMUQ)

19 @12: Why isn't Victor Hugo killing that stupid story? Javert was clearly acting in the public interest.

Posted by: Glenn Thrush at December 26, 2012 09:28 PM (9F2c1)

20
Soul mates, nah.

Someone who can make you very happy in bed? Yes.

That doesn't always last, but if a man and woman can make each other happy in the sack, that can make a much happier marriage. Some people end up just "settling" for whomever is willing to go to bed with them a few times. That can make you very unhappy as the years go on.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 09:28 PM (Md8Uo)

21 Holey Moley! ONT up already?

Well, hello to all you nighttime denizens that I rarely interact with!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2012 09:28 PM (UTq/I)

22 @Robert, I saw Les Mis today too. Thought it was very good. But, I thought they could have hired stage actors that could sing better. Although, I got the plot and characters a lot better in the movie than I did the stage play.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at December 26, 2012 09:28 PM (0Atym)

23 Sit in snow? But my bum will be wet and cold.

Posted by: Senatro McConnell who went home for xmas instead of filibustering Obamacare at December 26, 2012 09:29 PM (HDgX3)

24

"You get nothing," the president said. "I get that for free."

For receiving this insult, Mr. Boehner needs to either man-up and handle this ... "situation" ... or step down.

My guess is that Mr. Boehner will be "stepped-down", saving him the necessity of volunteering ...


Posted by: Arbalest at December 26, 2012 09:30 PM (t8dlh)

25 I've already met my soulmate. She turned out to be a kitteh.

Apparently there's no rule that says soulmates have to be the same species.

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2012 09:30 PM (sdi6R)

26 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND seeing Les Miserables. Great movie.



I would rather watch spider clowns than see Les Mis. There are no words for how much I hate Les Mis no matter who does it or the format in which it is done. Even the interpretive dance of hatred cannot convey the level of my hatred.

Hugh Jackman could be bare ass naked standing next to a bare ass naked Anne Hathaway and I would refuse to see it. That's how much I hate Les Mis.


Ask me my opinion of Rent. I dare you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:30 PM (Gk3SS)

27
Just asked Mr. RB (who should also be known as Mr. Reality), if he believed in soulmates.

"Yeah."

(pause)

Me: Well, did you find yours?

Mr. RB: (snorts)

Tomorrow's our 26th wedding anniversary. He says he does believe in love at first sight, though. Heh, heh.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 09:31 PM (oknl8)

28 This makes sense as it seems to be that people who have realistic expectations of marriage and people are more likely to have better marriages. Those people who are picky and have "high standards" seem to do worse in the relationship department.

---

Hmmm, I kind of disagree with this, depending on what she means by being picky. People are not nearly picky enough about whom they "date" given that dating seems to mean sleeping with.

Having high standards for the person with whom you're going to have the most important relationship of your adult life is not a bad thing. I have high standards for my close friendships. Why wouldn't I have them for my spouse?

Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2012 09:31 PM (5H6zj)

29 Apparently, DC was a very good boy this year.
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 09:27 PM (Ai+tZ)

Get lucky?

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:31 PM (LUnTP)

30 " Get the lead out " this could apply to most social programs...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 26, 2012 09:31 PM (rBK2Z)

31 The mugshots...
Cousin Itt was real? Coneheads are real???!!

Posted by: real joe at December 26, 2012 09:31 PM (PD2ad)

32
Don't forget retarded Joe Biden's part in both the attack on Robert Bork and the high - tech lynching of Clarence Thomas.

Joe Biden is really a piece of shit. He goes well with his boss, the clean and articulate negro.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 09:32 PM (Md8Uo)

33 Ogden is the most conservative city in America. Or at least it was around 2005. This was based on things like voting patterns, church attendance, etc

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 09:32 PM (HDgX3)

34 For those of you conservatives who have lost the fucking plot your book of Psalms is the debt limit.

Stop giving Democrats money to spend.

Until Republicans agree to stop giving Democrats the money to buy ObamaPhones, I won't be voting for Republicans.

Posted by: someguy at December 26, 2012 09:32 PM (sEXZ/)

35 Isn't it time for conservatives and supporters of free enterprise, individual liberty, and capitalism in the Congress and elsewhere to do the political equivalent of sitting down in the snow?


I'm sure the DOPE would tell us that this isn't the hill to die on.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 26, 2012 09:33 PM (CA2NO)

36 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:30 PM (Gk3SS)

Sounds personal........yikes.

I saw Les Mis on Broadway on a Saturday night in Oct 1995. The one greatest entertainment experiance of my life. And I have seen some stuff.

RENT? Preachy bullshit.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:33 PM (l86i3)

37 26-go on...

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 26, 2012 09:33 PM (JvP2I)

38 []iHugh Jackman could be bare ass naked standing next to a bare ass naked Anne Hathaway and I would refuse to see it. That's how much I hate Les Mis.
Ask me my opinion of Rent. I dare you.
Posted by: alexthechick

BOOM! Headshot!

I hate musicals as well, but, please, do go on.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 09:34 PM (KDq5l)

39 Get lucky?
Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:31 PM (LUnTP)


Twice. But I was talking about the bottle of Woodford Reserve Double Oaked. And the other awesome toys.

Plus, my family was 80% less crazy than normal.

Unrelated, I heard that AtC loves the Rent. *runs away giggling*

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 09:34 PM (Ai+tZ)

40
I was told the Bork trash-combers found he had rented a movie whose title titillated them. Turned out "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" was the Disney movie with Angela Lansbury.

Posted by: Justamom at December 26, 2012 09:35 PM (Sptt8)

41 I also don't really see marriage as work. Our marriage is our top priority, but it's not work. It's like breathing, eating, sleeping. You just do it.

Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2012 09:35 PM (5H6zj)

42 average grams of lead per gallon of gasoline while arrestees were -1 to 3 years of age;

Now, I'm just a moron, but what sort of crimes are -1 year olds committing?

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 26, 2012 09:36 PM (98AOY)

43 Javert was clearly acting in the public interest.
Posted by: Glenn Thrush at December 26, 2012 09:28 PM (9F2c1)

Victor Hugo was a socialist. Javert was clearly an honorable man and he's not played as anything less but his problem was his obsession with duty and that he was unwilling to consider the, uh, "social justness" of hounding after Jean Valjean so basically you're supposed to consider the public interest from the socialist perspective.

Not that it's a poltical movie but the leftism does inform the plot somewhat.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:36 PM (LUnTP)

44 Y-not, sometimes it is work not to blurt out to your wife/husband that what they just did was monumentally stupid and really pissed you off. Waiting five minutes and putting a cap on your anger is work. Believe me, it's work.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 09:37 PM (Md8Uo)

45 Apparently there's no rule that says soulmates have to be the same species.

Posted by: rickl


In most states, there are.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 09:37 PM (KDq5l)

46
He got 51% of the vote.

Dissident this, bitch. I figure that leaves 49% of the country that says fuck you Mr. President.

Posted by: Invictus at December 26, 2012 09:38 PM (OQpzc)

47 On the soulmate thing, one can go the other way, believing that love is just a biological compulsion fed by co-dependency.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2012 09:38 PM (huD71)

48
AtC, I found your soulmate. He's a millionaire who pretends to be a big, dumb hick! John Boy (of John Boy and Billy syndicated radio fame) last week gave his list of new movie openings for this week:

"Less Miserables. I for one will notbe there and am guaranteed to be less miserable!"

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 09:38 PM (oknl8)

49
I have a choice of watching The Incredibles or The Miserables, I wonder which one will be more uplifting.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 26, 2012 09:38 PM (69Mdf)

50 Unrelated, I heard that AtC loves the Rent. *runs away giggling*

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 09:34 PM (Ai+tZ)



Awwww, it's so sweet of you to give Chompy a chase. He's been wanting to stretch his legs.


My eyes! My eyes! I popped in one of the Planet Earth blurays for some soothing background noise and glanced up just in time to see squirrels humping. I did not need to see that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:38 PM (Gk3SS)

51 Ask me my opinion of Rent. I dare you.

Isn't Rent just a wonderful musical?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 26, 2012 09:39 PM (o1kXv)

52 RENT? Preachy bullshit.

Yeah, but "Everyone has AIDS" was a great song.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2012 09:40 PM (huD71)

53 Posted by: pointsnfigures at December 26, 2012 09:28 PM (0Atym)

If it helps Hugh Jackman does a lot of Broadway. Starred in a revival of Oklahoma and received much acclaim (but I've never seen Oklahoma).

But I also noticed that some of the big names aren't stage types. Anne Hathaway doesn't do stage. Russell Crowe, well he is, or was, the singer of his own bar band in Australia called...50 Foot Of Grunts? Something like that.

The rest of the cast I wasn't really familiar with.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:40 PM (LUnTP)

54 Ask me my opinion of Rent. I dare you.


Everybody has AIDS!

Posted by: Gary Johnston at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (z9HTb)

55 All the cool kids get torn to shreds and eaten by Polly, that clever girl. Now my heart has a tummy ache.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (Ai+tZ)

56
Isn't it time for conservatives and supporters of free enterprise,
individual liberty, and capitalism in the Congress and elsewhere to do
the political equivalent of sitting down in the snow?


Sure it is. Is it likely to happen? Erm...no. The Republicans have decided that there is no hill worth dying on. Not for the good of the Republic, of course, but for the good of themselves, and their own pampered existences. They will fall over themselves in a race to the cameras to announce that surrendering everything, and getting nothing is just the thing conservatives really stand for.

Obismal is only jetting back to town now because a 'deal' has already been decided on. A deal that gives the liberals everything they wanted...and probably a bit more, in exchange for nothing. Spending goes up. Taxes go up. Conservatives try to paint this as a winning compromise, where they'll really for reals tackle spending cuts next time around. Just you watch and see!

Gads...this country used to send men to the moon. It's sad to look back, and see how far this country has already fallen.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (L7hol)

57 In John Kerry's America, Americans will be personally raped, their ears cut off, their heads cut off, have taped
wires from portable telephones to their human genitals with the power turned up, cut off their limbs, blow up their bodies, randomly shoot at civilians (can I get me a huntin' license?),
raze their cities and towns in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shoot cattle
and dogs for fun, poison food stocks, and generally ravage America.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (BVkEs)

58 >>Waiting five minutes and putting a cap on your anger is work.

To me it's no different than any relationship, so I don't see marriage as more worthy of the 'work' label than I do friendships or other relationships.

Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (5H6zj)

59 The Republicans should have Obama's comments demanding tax increases even though he knew revenue would go down. Back then, it was capital gains taxes. Now, it's taxes on the rich.
He told Charlie Gibson in a 2008 debate that he didn't care if revenue went down, he was only interested in "fairness".
Google "Charlie Gibson obama capital gains"

Posted by: OCBill at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (YJvVE)

60 I liked Cats, I cried during Memories. It was the travelling cast in milwaukee but it wasn't bad.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (l86i3)

61 All the cool kids get torn to shreds and eaten by Polly, that clever girl. Now my heart has a tummy ache.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (Ai+tZ)



Who do you think is waiting at the end of the chase?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:42 PM (Gk3SS)

62 meant to say, "the Republicans should his comments on television in constant rotation".

Posted by: OCBill at December 26, 2012 09:42 PM (YJvVE)

63
but what sort of crimes are -1 year olds committing?


Parents know its the illegal release of leaded gas.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 26, 2012 09:42 PM (69Mdf)

64 "You'll get nothing and like it!" President Smails said.

Posted by: Brennan at December 26, 2012 09:42 PM (5++zd)

65 have taped
wires from portable telephones to their human genitals with the power turned up...
Posted by: CraigPoe


Say no more. I am there.

Posted by: The New James Bond at December 26, 2012 09:43 PM (KDq5l)

66 Twice.
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 09:34 PM (Ai+tZ)

My hat is off to you, my good man.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:43 PM (LUnTP)

67 correlation <> cause effect

Posted by: Gerry at December 26, 2012 09:43 PM (DJIo7)

68
Statement from the President and the First Lady on Kwanzaa

Michelle and I extend our warm thoughts and best wishes to all those celebrating Kwanzaa this holiday season. Today marks the first day of the week-long celebration of African-American history and culture through the seven principles of Kwanzaa: unity, self determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity, and faith.

To many, Kwanzaa serves as a time of reflection--taking lessons learned from our past and looking forward to a more promising tomorrow. It reminds us that though there is much to be thankful for we must recommit ourselves to building a country where all Americans have the opportunity to achieve their dreams.

As families across America light the Kinara today in the spirit of unity, our family extends our prayers and well wishes during this season.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2012 09:43 PM (kdS6q)

69 Who do you think is waiting at the end of the chase?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:42 PM (Gk3SS)


So they can run, but they just die tired.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:43 PM (l86i3)

70 There's no point to any of this talk of "sitting down in the snow" or of the entire "let it burn" approach, at least not as it relates to the current set of negotiations. The problem is so massive and the issues so complex that there is no one capable of solving it. There is only one thing that will solve the fiscal problems of the United States: a physical inability to pay its bills. Insolvency will fix everything.

Until that moment comes, we are just waiting. All of this talk of raising rates means nothing. To what end? So we can have a deficit of only 1.4 trillion next year? Or perhaps so we can slash the deficit by 2040? That'll show those rating agencies that we mean business!

This is a serious problem being faced by frivolous people. What else could one reasonably expect?

Posted by: Fabio9000 at December 26, 2012 09:44 PM (m3TBv)

71 Sharansky understood that to compromise even a little would lead to compromising a lot.

Indubitably.

Posted by: Captain Jean Luc Picard at December 26, 2012 09:44 PM (BAS5M)

72 Fuck Kawanza, phony made up bullshit.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:45 PM (l86i3)

73 Oh, and right now I"m listening to the new Baroness double album, Yellow & Green.

WOW!

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:45 PM (LUnTP)

74 I liked Cats, I cried during Memories. It was the travelling cast in milwaukee but it wasn't bad.Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:41 PM (l86i3)This one might make you cry as well. Within Temptation: Memorieshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PojE1LTswV0

Posted by: Invictus at December 26, 2012 09:45 PM (OQpzc)

75 Ballet and opera aside, the only theater I can honestly say I've enjoyed is Shakespeare. I can't stand the "staginess" of most theatrical productions.

Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2012 09:45 PM (5H6zj)

76
Well fiddle-dee-dee. More happy talk from our President.

Gosh he's swell!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 09:46 PM (Md8Uo)

77 My great aunt voted for Obama and then told my mama she looked really bad at Christmas dinner yesterday. God help me, I hate liberals more and more each day.

Posted by: Jmel at December 26, 2012 09:47 PM (9tSXa)

78

To many, Kwanzaa serves as a time of
reflection--taking lessons learned from our past and looking forward to a more
promising tomorrow Joke.



There was a recent
report that claimed fewer than one
percent of the black population
celebrates the make-believe holiday

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 09:48 PM (oknl8)

79 A stolen Glock is the most requested Kwanzaa gift this year.

Posted by: Stats at December 26, 2012 09:48 PM (BVkEs)

80 I can't stand the "staginess" of most theatrical productions.

It helps mask the flaccid dialog and bad acting.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 26, 2012 09:48 PM (TkFJS)

81 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 09:48 PM (kaalw)

82 There was a recent
report that claimed fewer than one
percent of the black population
celebrates the make-believe holiday
Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 09:48 PM (oknl

So who are these families that Obama says is celebrating?

Relatives of Jeremiah Wright and Cornel West?

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:48 PM (LUnTP)

83 Cliff Smiff -- let it burn , sit in the snow ..... whatever

Les Mis was excellent....

Posted by: ET at December 26, 2012 09:48 PM (s72/N)

84 Indubitably.



Posted by: Captain Jean Luc Picard


Ok, how many lights again?

Posted by: Gul Madred at December 26, 2012 09:49 PM (KDq5l)

85 I have a choice of watching The Incredibles or The Miserables, I wonder which one will be more uplifting.

Whichever one is wearing the Playtex 18 Hour Bra. For us full figure gals.

Posted by: Jane Russell at December 26, 2012 09:49 PM (BAS5M)

86 Howdy, Cooth!

How are you this fine day after Christmas evening?

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:49 PM (LUnTP)

87 Lebanon Levi should take Bonerz seat. What
a faggot.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 26, 2012 09:49 PM (FvWRE)

88 77 My great aunt voted for Obama and then told my mama she looked really bad at Christmas dinner yesterday.
-----
You should've beaten her to death with a turkey leg.


This reminds me that it's been my sad observation families treat each other like shit. I guess because you "have to" love them (or deal with them). Maybe that's why I'm quite happy to be considerate and gentle with my husband, friends, and other voluntary relationships.

Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2012 09:49 PM (5H6zj)

89 1) A chance meeting...
2) A friendship by choice ...
3) Falling in Love...

These are the steps to a soul mate....
....The rest is a willingness to work and respect one another....

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 26, 2012 09:50 PM (rBK2Z)

90 @78 -- The strike-through worked on Microsoft Word, dammit.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 09:50 PM (oknl8)

91 Reyes estimates that the Clean Air Act resulted in a 56% decrease in
violent crime, and that the legalization of abortion resulted in a 29%
percent decrease in crime (a result consistent with Levitt and Donohue's
in Freakonomics).
***
And yet the per capita crime rate in the United States doubled from 1960 to 1980...after which point it began dropping.

I guess it was all those would be 7 year old miscreants that were aborted instead...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 26, 2012 09:52 PM (AUeaU)

92 Ok, how many lights again?
Posted by: Gul Madred at December 26, 2012 09:49 PM (KDq5l)

Four lights bitch. And I'll spit in the devil's eye and say, "Four lights."

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 09:52 PM (OQpzc)

93 Obama wants his little intra-vacation photo op with a deal.

He's the one with the motive. Let him burn.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2012 09:52 PM (huD71)

94 So they can run, but they just die tired.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:43 PM (l86i3)



It's because I'm caring like that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:53 PM (Gk3SS)

95 My gift to you: Christmas Cheerleaders!


http://preview.tinyurl.com/cv8j3vr

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2012 09:54 PM (BAS5M)

96 This reminds me that it's been my sad observation families treat each other like shit. I guess because you "have to" love them (or deal with them).
Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2012 09:49 PM


See, I never got that memo. So most of my extended family can't stand me. Which I see as a win/win: they get a target of thier righteous outrage and butthurt, I get left the fuck alone.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 09:54 PM (Ai+tZ)

97 Posted by: Invictus at December 26, 2012 09:45 PM (OQpzc)

Didn't make me cry but the girl can sing real pretty.

This is the memories I was talking about.

http://tinyurl.com/bphg2bh

A little Elaine Paige for you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:55 PM (l86i3)

98
Fuck Kawanza, phony made up bullshit.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet




Dr. Maulana Karenga (AKA Ronald McKinley Everett) created Kwanzaa in the wake of the Watts riots, he intended for African traditions to pervade every element of the invented harvest celebration.

The vast majority of middle-class African-Americans initially viewed the holiday with tremendous suspicion, owing mostly to Karenga's unsavory reputation. Even those who supported his call for a violent overthrow of the government were troubled by his torture of two young women, which led to his imprisonment in 1971. Karenga was sentenced to one to ten years in prison on counts of felonious assault and false imprisonment. One of the victims gave testimony of how Karenga and other men tortured her and another woman. The woman described having been stripped and beaten with an electrical cord. Karenga's former wife, Brenda Lorraine Karenga, testified that she sat on the other woman’s stomach while another man forced water into her mouth through a hose.

Karenga's well-documented hostility to Christianity and gender equality didn't help matters any.




So that's what's "A Charlie Brown Christmas" was missing, Linus beating Lucy with an extension cord....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2012 09:55 PM (kdS6q)

99 Kwanzaa? Isn't that the day Malcolm X comes down the chimney and gives out presents?

I denounce myself.

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at December 26, 2012 09:56 PM (9F2c1)

100 You should've beaten her to death with a turkey leg.


LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:56 PM (l86i3)

101 It's because I'm caring like that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:53 PM (Gk3SS)

Sometimes I mourn that I have been exiled to spending my life on the frontier with the legions. It would be well to bask in the glow of the empress. Maybe I can visit the capital on your bdays? I am quite good looking and I have great stamina, even if I am a bit careless of speech.

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 09:57 PM (OQpzc)

102 Thus far in my life, I have successfully avoided watching more than 5 minutes of ANY musical.

Someone randomly bursts out into song, I burst out the extended cussword vocabulary while I hunt the remote or the door.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 26, 2012 09:58 PM (ccXZP)

103 So that's what's "A Charlie Brown Christmas" was missing, Linus beating Lucy with an extension cord....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2012 09:55 PM (kdS6q)

LMFAO, OMG, I have tears.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 09:58 PM (l86i3)

104 The whole soul mates thing makes me think that women's entertainment might be a major problem in male-female relations.

Yes, pornography serves a similar role for men...but most men seem to realize it is a fantasy, whereas a significant number of women don't get that the male lead in your average rom-tear jerker is every bit as fake as Jenna Jameson.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 26, 2012 09:58 PM (AUeaU)

105
My sis wrapped my Christmas present this year with kwanza paper she got on clearance last year.
Present was good tho.

Posted by: Justamom at December 26, 2012 09:59 PM (Sptt8)

106 No, Kwanza is the day Pancho Claus takes his lowrider out of the garage and cruises the neighborhood handing out tamales in exchange for high capacity clips*.





* On purpose

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2012 09:59 PM (BAS5M)

107 You should've beaten her to death with a turkey leg.
gone on Meet the Press and, while making an impassioned statement that allowing ordinary citizens to beat their aunts to death with turkey legs is irresponsible, beaten her to death with a turkey leg.

Posted by: David Gregory at December 26, 2012 09:59 PM (9F2c1)

108 If you're not watching Kennedy center honors you're missing some great music right now during Buddy Guy tribute.
Zeppelin tribute still to come.

Posted by: teej at December 26, 2012 09:59 PM (JxJPF)

109 Yes, pornography serves a similar role for men...but most men seem to realize it is a fantasy, whereas a significant number of women don't get that the male lead in your average rom-tear jerker is every bit as fake as Jenna Jameson.
Posted by: 18-1


<cough drunkguypropositioningastripper cough>

Posted by: Gul Madred at December 26, 2012 10:00 PM (KDq5l)

110 Kwanzaa? Isn't that the day Malcolm X comes down the chimney and gives out presents? shoots whitey

FTFY

Posted by: 18-1 at December 26, 2012 10:00 PM (AUeaU)

111 Ok. Which one of you Morons pissed off AtC? Not smart.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 26, 2012 10:01 PM (C7J9f)

112 You should've beaten her to death with a jaw bone of an ass, but TFG is still using his.

Posted by: sTevo at December 26, 2012 10:01 PM (VMcEw)

113 It's because I'm caring like that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:53 PM (Gk3SS)


Yes, your caring, I sees it.

Polly, stop! That's my kidney!

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 10:01 PM (Ai+tZ)

114 Amen to the sign. Coached Football, Baseball, and Basketball. Football was the worst. So much projection, so little time. Some of the parents should get their asses kicked.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 26, 2012 10:02 PM (jucos)

115 My sis wrapped my Christmas present this year with kwanza paper she got on clearance last year.


I've been doing that to my older sister for about 20 years now. That damn paper never seems to come to an end.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 10:04 PM (oknl8)

116 Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 26, 2012 10:02 PM (jucos)

Oh Jeez, I have no Idea how you do it. I had my youngest in T-ball and wanted to smack the dogshit out of a loudmouth, BMW driving, yuppy clown parent.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 10:04 PM (l86i3)

117 And I didn't catch the gals name that just sang while Jeff Beck played but,,,,,,damn. I will have to search that out and find a cd. I mean just,,,,damn.

Posted by: teej at December 26, 2012 10:04 PM (pozvt)

118 Someone posted this earlier today.
If you missed it, you may want to thank me.

“Demand A Plan HYPOCRITES” the best two minutes on the intertubes about Hollywood assholes.

http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=90698

Posted by: USA at December 26, 2012 10:05 PM (RIg+t)

119 Accept - Hung, Drawn and Quartered

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJJDJwQ9mmU

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:05 PM (LUnTP)

120 Hi ont.
If boehner had any balls, he would have told obama, good luck, funding anythingstops now bitch.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:06 PM (adaoe)

121
Pancho Claus takes his lowrider out of the garage and cruises the neighborhood handing out tamales





"On Donner, on Blitzen, on Chewie, on Tavo -- come on Berto!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2012 10:06 PM (kdS6q)

122 Oh Jeez, I have no Idea how you do it. I had my youngest in T-ball and wanted to smack the dogshit out of a loudmouth, BMW driving, yuppy clown parent.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 10:04 PM (l86i3)
--------------------------------------------------------
Of course everyones kid deserved to be Quarterback or Running Back and no one should sit. I am talking about kicking asses of my parents. Games were the worst. Between our parents and opposing team parents was enough to make me stroke out.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 26, 2012 10:07 PM (jucos)

123 There was a recent
report that claimed fewer than one
percent of the black population
celebrates the make-believe holiday


I believe it. I got the sense that in the 80s it was the kind of thing black families were supposed to do. Shortly it was the thing you felt you were supposed to do, at least if your militant uncle insisted on it. Now it seems to be basically done for show and is observed mostly by guilty condescending racist white liberals.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 26, 2012 10:07 PM (huD71)

124 No, after some complaining most will keep votingfor the worthless GOP, and trying to shame those who refuse.

Posted by: MlR at December 26, 2012 10:08 PM (vR2l5)

125 I've never seen Les Mis. I saw Cats years ago and thought it was horrible. I kept thinking that if Andrew Lloyd Webber was tormented by the ghost of T.S. Eliot every single night of his life - it still wouldn't be punishment enough for creating that dreck.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 10:08 PM (BStAJ)

126 Goodnight Horde. Remember, empties go in the trash can, piss goes in the tree line.

Cleaning up after Christmas Eve was not fun.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 26, 2012 10:08 PM (Ai+tZ)

127 Amen to the sign. Coached Football, Baseball, and Basketball. Football was the worst. So much projection, so little time. Some of the parents should get their asses kicked. Posted by: Truck Monkey

Might be easier and more legal to bring back the concept of Shame.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 10:09 PM (KDq5l)

128 Robert. I raise you:

Runes to My Memory: Amon Amarth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKWRDakVKZ0

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:09 PM (OQpzc)

129 SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:53 PM (Gk3SS)


Hey, what about me?

Posted by: The Masters at December 26, 2012 10:10 PM (9F2c1)

130 Hey, I have a favor to ask anyone who is willing...can you come down here and eat the rest of this ham?

Holy shit it is the best fucking ham ever made. Seriously awesome stuff. Unfortunately I can feel my pants getting tighter and sadly it's not because I'm getting wood.

Oh, and these sugar cookies. They're also awesome and delicious.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:10 PM (LUnTP)

131 "progressives," those leftists haters of America who have so disfigured our national life since the 1960s 1880s"


Fixed.

Posted by: Phinn at December 26, 2012 10:10 PM (oFH2D)

132 Good night, DC!

A little music to lull you to sleep.

Accept - Stalingrad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-QQYxryAqM

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:10 PM (LUnTP)

133 Might be easier and more legal to bring back the concept of Shame.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 10:09 PM (KDq5l)


Hold on there, How can a girl and boy copulate freely, get knocked up and murder their child if there is shame. Thanks for your advice Mr. Flintstone.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 10:11 PM (l86i3)

134 86
Howdy, Cooth!



How are you this fine day after Christmas evening?

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:49 PM (LUnTP)


Reasonably well. A couple of days before Christmas I was down 35 pounds....but I think that may have been a fluke, 'cause it's bounced back up about 5. Still, low-carb seems to be doing things. Didn't do much over the holiday -- BH had to work a bunch, and we've had intermittent rain.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:11 PM (kaalw)

135 Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:09 PM (OQpzc)


\m/

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:11 PM (LUnTP)

136 Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:11 PM (kaalw)


Heh, yeah I gained five pounds as well.

Wonder what weight gain tomorrow brings.

Here, have some ham.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:12 PM (LUnTP)

137 Don't read the fiscal cliff links at Drudge. I'm spitting angry with the lecture to the GOP to NOT block the dems. "you get nothing" is the dem mantra now. Who do they think they are? This reminds me of having obamacare shoved down our throats. 4 more years of this ....... I need to get a little book of psalms to carry around myself.

Posted by: carolina at December 26, 2012 10:13 PM (z2shr)

138 Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:10 PM (LUnTP)

Can't help....think I just ate a pound of black walnut fudge....damn.

Posted by: BignJames at December 26, 2012 10:13 PM (j7iSn)

139 Can't help....think I just ate a pound of black walnut fudge....damn.
Posted by: BignJames at December 26, 2012 10:13 PM (j7iSn)

Ya better hurry up and chase it with cold milk.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 10:14 PM (l86i3)

140 Congrats on your book OSP..... or should I say Jack July?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 26, 2012 10:14 PM (jucos)

141 Accept - Hellfire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LR5FXzUIB8

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:14 PM (LUnTP)

142 Oh, and these sugar cookies. They're also awesome and delicious.
Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:10 PM (LUnTP)

Never thought I would say this, but so burned out on cookies,,

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:15 PM (adaoe)

143 Robert:

It doesn't get a lot of play but Cry of The Blackbirds is just awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gUKNbyx2GU

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:15 PM (OQpzc)

144 Never thought I would say this, but so burned out on cookies,,
Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:15 PM (adaoe)

I also have pumpkin pie.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (LUnTP)

145 Our little Ewok stopped by for Christmas.

Link in name.

Posted by: sTevo at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (VMcEw)

146 #4 I prefer Mustard Greens and have them with every holiday meal, and any other meal I can find an excuse to cook them.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (Eq2MX)

147 Alex really? can't u get off the the fence on Les Mis? Gees can't u take a stand. Don't candy coat it. Tell it straight.

Posted by: Guido at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (XLuH2)

148 Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:15 PM (OQpzc)

Dude, that was the song that turned me on to Amon Amarth!

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (LUnTP)

149 120
Hi ont.

If boehner had any balls, he would have told obama, good luck, funding anythingstops now bitch.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:06 PM (adaoe)


This. And it'd be fookin' high time for it, already -- woulda been nice if someone had a pair six trillion bucks ago.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (kaalw)

150 I also have pumpkin pie.
Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (LUnTP)

Now that and the ham I would take

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:18 PM (adaoe)

151 You can take any event from any year and then say A-HA this is what caused crime to increase or decrease 20 years later. And there's no way to prove or disprove your theory.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:18 PM (HDgX3)

152 Here. In keeping with tonight's Bond theme, have some Super Junior - http://youtu.be/4GpJHF0WyAE



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 10:19 PM (Gk3SS)

153 136
Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:11 PM (kaalw)





Heh, yeah I gained five pounds as well.



Wonder what weight gain tomorrow brings.



Here, have some ham.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:12 PM (LUnTP)


I suspect that part is also the rain -- our normal weekend exercise is hiking.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:19 PM (kaalw)

154
Hey Robert, that new accept tune is alright, but in my humble opinion Accept just isn't the same without the little ball of hate.

Princess of the dawn is my all time favorite song by them.... album version not live.....

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 26, 2012 10:20 PM (C7J9f)

155 Leftovers. Mmmm. Lots of leftovers....

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 26, 2012 10:20 PM (BVkEs)

156 Accept - Flash To Bang Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6blH6XIxIq4

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:21 PM (LUnTP)

157 Ted Kennedy was, in all probability, a minion of the devil. Who still has acolytes.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ahxdq74

Posted by: Thorvald at December 26, 2012 10:21 PM (1V6Pv)

158 sTevo: That is one adorable little Ewok!! Very pretty!

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 10:22 PM (BStAJ)

159 Amon Amarth: Fate of Norns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJF9yfuExCU

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:23 PM (OQpzc)

160 Outstanding movie. Seriously, five stars.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 09:26 PM

I'm trying to wrap my head around our ONT heavy metal DJ telling us he loves show tunes

NTTAWWT

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:23 PM (wwsoB)

161 I'm so tired of the "if we don't have a deal by 12/31 the world will end" bullshit reporting. Hey idiots in the MFM, did you know a tax rate can be set retroactively? Why yes, yes it can. Which means if a deal is reached on say Jan 5th, the tax rates agreed to can be retroactive to Jan 1. The world won't end at 12:01 am Jan 1 if tax rates increase for a few days.

I know the MFM is doing this because

a) it sells
b) it's a nice way to beat Republicans over the head

But I think there's also a c)....reporters have no idea how this stuff works and they can't understand that if a deal is reached a day or even a month after Jan 1 it won't really be that much different than a deal reached this week.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:23 PM (HDgX3)

162 Even Acts of Valor though had to get the jew arms dealer in there.




Actually I'm okay with that. Shows the truth that there are a lot of assholes out there willing to be useful idiots until their former friends cut their heads off with a rusty spork.

'Sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 26, 2012 10:24 PM (c2oll)

163 This. And it'd be fookin' high time for it, already -- woulda been nice if someone had a pair six trillion bucks ago.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (kaalw)

Hi cthulhu, true. At least they should demand the negotiations are on tv. They won't because they are gutless.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:24 PM (adaoe)

164 If boehner had any balls, he would have told obama, good luck, funding anythingstops now bitch.

He has balls.

Unfortunately he keeps them in a jar in his office, preserved in formaldehyde.

When he wants to look at them he uses an electron microscope.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 26, 2012 10:24 PM (lzhQx)

165 145
Our little Ewok stopped by for Christmas.

Link in name.


Posted by: sTevo at December 26, 2012 10:16 PM (VMcEw)

---
A. Dor. Able.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 26, 2012 10:25 PM (BVkEs)

166
Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a kid?

BTW, Maet, I copied and pasted your entire "sit in the snow" opinion piece to my FB page giving credit and a link to the ONT. Good piece.

Posted by: Ohio Dan Still feeling the love at December 26, 2012 10:25 PM (JKNDp)

167 our normal weekend exercise is hiking.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:19 PM (kaalw)

Yeah and it's too cold out tonight to do anything.

Hummmm........

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:25 PM (LUnTP)

168 F@ck Kwanza and the african liberation socialists who dreamed it up.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:25 PM (kXoT0)

169 Amon Amarth got me a speeding ticket. There is only on proper accelerator postition when they come on.

All the way to the firewall.

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:25 PM (OQpzc)

170 Accept - Shadow Soldiers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjAFhwMxSfc

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:25 PM (LUnTP)

171 Izzat you, SMOD? http://tinyurl.com/cazn63r

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:25 PM (kaalw)

172 Pumpkin pie with cream cheese swirl is calling my name, now that I've finished off the sugar cookies. Goodbye pants, Hello bib overalls!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2012 10:26 PM (BAS5M)

173 can you come down here and eat the rest of this ham?

...is that a euphemism for something?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 26, 2012 10:27 PM (6Uliu)

174 With the new ploy of the debt limit reaching it's limit two months early, is reason enough to not only sit in snow, but not raise the limit, let "non essential gov't entities" shut down and let public know preeeezy has power to pay Soc. Sec. and military funding.

All my shoes have Sole Mates.

Posted by: Deli LLama at December 26, 2012 10:27 PM (lGu1O)

175 boo yeah!


yep, I said it


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 10:28 PM (jfSqj)

176 I'm trying to wrap my head around our ONT heavy metal DJ telling us he loves show tunes

NTTAWWT

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:23 PM (wwsoB)

HAH! And last night I was extolling the virtues of the Muppets' version of A Christmas Carol.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:28 PM (LUnTP)

177 Pants? It can't be Friday again already.

Posted by: Butters at December 26, 2012 10:29 PM (NIZHJ)

178 All the way to the firewall.
Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:25 PM (OQpzc)

Heavy metal - God's gift to ticket happy traffic cops.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:29 PM (LUnTP)

179 173
can you come down here and eat the rest of this ham?

...is that a euphemism for something?


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 26, 2012 10:27 PM (6Uliu)


I think it's a euphemism for "these freakin' hams have no freakin' portion control". Have a Moosehead?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:29 PM (kaalw)

180 Republicans sitting in the snow? The only way that happens is if Dems retake the House and Nanny Pelosi throws all their office furniture outside.

I'm hearing from many that instead of Let It Burn or going third party, we work to reform or retake the GOP, especially since "we have no time" to form a third party

I figure it's faster to form a new party where you don't have an entrenched, corrupt, and well connected establishment fighting you at every turn.

When the early "favorite" is a BFF of Obama who can't be photograghed with a normal lens and is a RINO who cries when a leftist washed up rock star calls him, and whose main Dem threat is to the right of him on vital issues, this isn't a party that thinks it needs to change anything

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:30 PM (wwsoB)

181 It would be bitchin' if the House just said fuck you! we got enough debt


We're not going to raise the debt limit

you smarty pants from the Ivy League figgure this shit out



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 10:30 PM (jfSqj)

182 re: "I got the sense that in the 80s it was the kind of thing black families were supposed to do. Shortly it was the thing you felt you were supposed to do, at least if your militant uncle insisted on it."

I lived in Oakland in the '80s, and about half my friends there were the kids of the militant uncles. Nobody celebrated Kwanzaa. It got mentioned, sometimes angrily, around Christmastime. And then...it was Christmas.

Also, nobody I knew wore giant yellow clothes or leather pseudo-chains or had that Leaders Of The New School high-top-tiny-dreads hairdo that only black people on PBS still have. I think that's not a coincidence.

Kwanzaa is a tightly targeted sub-demographic thing. It's not for your randomly selected black American. They're pretty into Christian stuff. It's for...uh...you know...

...You know.

Posted by: oblig. feels weird now at December 26, 2012 10:30 PM (cePv8)

183 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:23 PM (HDgX3)

You must not run a business... you know... that whole Budget thing?

I've got clients who are paralyzed... afraid to spend money even on things they need, because they have NO idea what the tax structure will be...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 26, 2012 10:31 PM (lZBBB)

184 ...is that a euphemism for something?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 26, 2012 10:27 PM (6Uliu)

I want you to put my ham.

IN your mouth.

And chew it at least 20 times.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:31 PM (LUnTP)

185 I don't believe in soul mates and I hate it in movies. I don't like movies that perpetuate the stupidity and idiocy of modern society.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 26, 2012 10:32 PM (DoZD+)

186 Accept - Revolution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGuuQnEzACM

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:32 PM (LUnTP)

187 And now for something a bit different:

Hammerfall: Bloodbound

Good old fashioned heavy metal like I grew up with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSDsYmZREwo

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:32 PM (OQpzc)

188 OK, let's face it, if we are going to sit down in the snow, all the additional padding on the tushies is going to help, right. So, it is your duty as a Conservative to get in there and finish off those Christmas goodies, so your Baby Elephant BaDonkADonk can do its job.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:34 PM (kXoT0)

189 You guys are making me hungry. My sister had a very tasty spread for Christmas, but this year I refused to take home leftovers. Now Robert's got me wishing I had taken some of the leftover ham...damnit...there is nothing in my fridge that I feel like eating..

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 10:34 PM (BStAJ)

190 185
I don't believe in soul mates and I hate it in movies. I don't like
movies that perpetuate the stupidity and idiocy of modern society.

---

Me too. I believe we're soul mates.

Posted by: Designated Drinker at December 26, 2012 10:34 PM (BVkEs)

191 Chicks who say "We're Soulmates" = Future Crazed Stalkers.

Run Away as quickly as you can.

Sheesh, I still have nightmares about that crazy witch.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 26, 2012 10:34 PM (Sedwk)

192 I'm hearing from many that instead of Let It Burn or going third party, we work to reform or retake the GOP, especially since "we have no time" to form a third party
I'm going toward a 3rd party too, esp. in light of that deal the 'pubes made to NEVER challenge voter fraud.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 10:35 PM (oknl8)

193 You must not run a business... you know... that whole Budget thing?



I've got clients who are paralyzed... afraid to spend money even on
things they need, because they have NO idea what the tax structure will
be...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 26, 2012 10:31 PM (lZBBB)

______________________________
Your clients are not very good bidnessmen then. The corporate tax rate isn't changing. And the worst that will happen is the top rate for s-corp goes from 35 to 39.6%. They knew this was coming for a year and should have planned for it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:35 PM (HDgX3)

194 What's this thread below saying that laws are only for lesbians? Don't they know that everyone is equal !!!!!

What? .... oh .... NEVER MIND !!!

Posted by: Miss Emily Litella at December 26, 2012 10:35 PM (wwsoB)

195 Accept - Against The World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkX3fr3eLig

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:36 PM (LUnTP)

196 Regarding metal, a salient observation: Norwegian, as in Norwegian, Death Metal. Chton.

Posted by: Thorvald at December 26, 2012 10:36 PM (1V6Pv)

197
So that's what's "A Charlie Brown Christmas" was missing, Linus beating Lucy with an extension cord....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2012 09:55 PM (kdS6q)

Too bad they also cut out me using the strapon on that waterhead Marcie. That retard won't be walking right for a month.

Posted by: Peppermint Patty at December 26, 2012 10:36 PM (Zd/NW)

198 Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:32 PM (OQpzc)

Now we just chant the name of Tim Tebow thrice and Miss Tammy will appear to grant us three wishes.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:37 PM (LUnTP)

199 Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 26, 2012 10:14 PM (jucos)

Thank you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 10:37 PM (l86i3)

200 I'm going toward a 3rd party too, esp. in light of that deal the 'pubes made to NEVER challenge voter fraud.
Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 10:35 PM (oknl

I'm rooting for the Pork Party. Whoever promises to bring home the most fed dollars is my guy.

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:38 PM (OQpzc)

201
Chicks who say "We're Soulmates" = Future Crazed Stalkers.

And, after a few decades, the owners of a shitload of cats.

Still, your sage advice stands: RUN!!!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 26, 2012 10:38 PM (4u2LN)

202 I'm going toward a 3rd party too, esp. in light of that deal the 'pubes made to NEVER challenge voter fraud. Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 10:35 PM (oknl

Exactamundo, always let the Dims be in charge of counting the votes and then put on your "shocked" face when they win every damn time? Simpletons. We need election reform in this country and we need it bad. We fixed the fraud in Oklahoma and now we have Conservatives running everything--Governor, both houses of the Legislature and everyone we send to DC...BECAUSE, when they can't cheat, the Dims tend to lose because people with common sense do not vote for them.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:38 PM (kXoT0)

203 Come on Romeo13, if you've got a business that's clearing $250K profit and you're paralyzed over a tax rate of 35 or 39.6%, you've got bigger problems than the fiscal cliff. For someone earning $500K **PROFIT** that's a tax increase of $11,500. Are you seriously telling me someone earning $500K is "paralyzed" over a tax increase of $11,500?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:38 PM (HDgX3)

204 181
It would be bitchin' if the House just said fuck you! we got enough debt







Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 10:30 PM

There's only one House that was a genius, got impossible problems solved, assumed everyone lies, and said what the hell he thought without caring if people's feelings were hurt by the truth

That show ended last year, or more realistically after its 3rd season

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:39 PM (wwsoB)

205 OSP's got a book out???

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 26, 2012 10:39 PM (BVkEs)

206 Now we just chant the name of Tim Tebow thrice and Miss Tammy will appear to grant us three wishes.
Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:37 PM (LUnTP)

He is awful pretty. Nearly as hot as me. If I was gonna go gay, I jump him.

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:39 PM (OQpzc)

207 Could we get a couple hundred thousand people to go to DC on January 20 or thereabouts and sit down in the literal snow and recite that psalm?

I would.


Posted by: PJ at December 26, 2012 10:39 PM (ZWaLo)

208 207
Could we get a couple hundred thousand people to go to DC on January 20
or thereabouts and sit down in the literal snow and recite that psalm?

I would.
---
I would, too.

Posted by: Thorvald at December 26, 2012 10:41 PM (1V6Pv)

209 3rd party might work in the long run. But be prepared for at least a decade of filibuster proof Democrat majorities during the transition. By the time a viable conservative 3rd party exists, it will probably be too late for it to do anything. Imagine 8 years of Obama/Hillary with a Democratic house and 65 Dems in the senate.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:41 PM (HDgX3)

210 184
...is that a euphemism for something?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 26, 2012 10:27 PM (6Uliu)



I want you to put my ham.



IN your mouth.



And chew it at least 20 times.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:31 PM (LUnTP)

Yeah, is the "ham" like "stuffing"?

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 26, 2012 10:42 PM (Zd/NW)

211
Chicks & Unicorns:

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/game_of_thrones_tv_show_image_01.jpg

I have a new TV show to watch ...

Posted by: Arbalest at December 26, 2012 10:42 PM (t8dlh)

212 Well, while we are giving up...Miss Hillary is somewhere getting Niptucked, gastric bypassed, and dried out so she will be ready to hit the damn campaign trail for 2016 as soon as Kerry is confirmed as SoS and starts f@cking things up bad enough that she looks good in hindsight.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:42 PM (kXoT0)

213
Just want to share....
I have not laughed for a long time.
Lost my 25 yo son May 2010. Lost my 87 yo mom Sept 2011. Put 14 yo dog down this summer.
I cry alot. Christmas is hard.
So, to get to my point I want to thank y'all for giving me the opportunity to laugh again. You guys are awesome (well, most of you.) Merry Christmas and a premature Happy New Year.

Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 10:43 PM (MuE6W)

214 Accept - Twist Of Fate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8-WRf-Sy0Y

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:44 PM (LUnTP)

215 Miss Hillary is somewhere getting Niptucked, gastric bypassed, and dried
out so she will be ready to hit the damn campaign trail for 2016



That patented Rodham charm will be impossible to fight.

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2012 10:44 PM (z9HTb)

216 Shit. I'm out of alcohol and it is after 9pm in Texas. I'm off to drink in a bar and look at non-electronic hotties who also won't jump me.

Take care, all.

Posted by: Jean Luc at December 26, 2012 10:45 PM (OQpzc)

217 Good night, Jean Luc.

Stay metal!

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (LUnTP)

218 Somebody find a larynx donor for Shrillary STAT.

Posted by: Ohio Dan Still feeling the love at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (JKNDp)

219 olddog at December 26, 2012 10:43 PM (MuE6W)

Damn, I wish you were close enough to hug, so please accept a virtual hug. Christmas is hard for me too...cause most everyone has passed.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (kXoT0)

220 Can't buy booze after 9pm in TX? Say what now?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (HDgX3)

221 I read that there is currently 600 trillion dollars in derivatives being passed around by hedge funds, backed by 600 billion in actual collateral or anything redeemable

The GDP of the entire world is 60 trillion. If there's ever a counter party panic, Helicopter Ben is going to have to print dollars to the point where it'll take four of the George Washingtons in your wallet to equal one penny in goods. But I'm sure the government and MSM will assure us that inflation is tame.

This "FISCAL CLIFF !!11!!! " is just a little step off the curb. The real fiscal cliff comes when there are trillions in Social Security obligations they can't possibly pay for

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (wwsoB)

222 I ain't no ways retaaard....

Posted by: Hillary at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (BVkEs)

223
OldDog, on behalf of all those funnier than I, you're welcome.

Posted by: Ohio Dan Still feeling the love at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (JKNDp)

224 Merry Christmas and a premature Happy New Year.
Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 10:43 PM (MuE6W)

Aww, hope 2013 is a better year.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (adaoe)

225 For the FISCAL CLIFF !!11!!! ....

We'll need a Monty DOOM thread for that day

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:47 PM (wwsoB)

226 "I would rather watch spider clowns......"

I thought spider mimes were pretty scary but this is no......just no.

Posted by: General Trulane knows he wants a Winchester 1892 short in 44mag at December 26, 2012 10:47 PM (Z5BDI)

227 For
the first time since college, during my time off I let my beard grow.
(Well, goatee... can't grow a beard, thanks to Mme. Curie). Anyway,
can't decide if I look like a college professor or like a homeless
person. I expected it to be salt and pepper, but there's more salt
than the menu at my mother's assisted living facility.


Ladies- (guys, I don't care) what's your position on facial hair? Yes?
No? It's coming in full (I've always been a hairy guy (but no back
hair)). If I decide to keep, should leave as-is, or use that for men
facial hair dye? Discuss.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 10:47 PM (HqXYa)

228 So the baby boomers and their offspring are FOOKED.

Posted by: Ohio Dan Still feeling the love at December 26, 2012 10:48 PM (JKNDp)

229 That patented Rodham charm will be impossible to fight. Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2012 10:44 PM (z9HTb)

Hey, we can't stand her and can see right through her shenanigans, but, she is a beloved figure in the Dim party and they OWE her for two Dim two term POTUS reigns of terror made possible by her enabling.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:48 PM (kXoT0)

230 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 26, 2012 10:48 PM (JMmQ9)

231 Just want to share....
I have not laughed for a long time.
Lost my 25 yo son May 2010. Lost my 87 yo mom Sept 2011. Put 14 yo dog down this summer.
I cry alot. Christmas is hard.
So, to get to my point I want to thank y'all for giving me the opportunity to laugh again. You guys are awesome (well, most of you.) Merry Christmas and a premature Happy New Year.
Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 10:43 PM (MuE6W)



welcome aboard, that really sucks


BUT DUDE ! you can't use the word 'premature' here the term to use is……. early

Premature rhymes with premature ejaculation and nobody like that

Remember Gerg looks like David Gregory







Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (jfSqj)

232 203
Come on Romeo13, if you've got a business that's clearing $250K profit
and you're paralyzed over a tax rate of 35 or 39.6%, you've got bigger
problems than the fiscal cliff. For someone earning $500K **PROFIT**
that's a tax increase of $11,500. Are you seriously telling me someone
earning $500K is "paralyzed" over a tax increase of $11,500?



Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:38 PM (HDgX3)


Evidently you missed the memo. It's not just the rates -- there's a mind-numbing number of major changes -- like http://tinyurl.com/bsxc8y7 or the lack of adjustment to the AMT threshold, or the lowered rate for capital gains....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (kaalw)

233
Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:38 PM
So how did OK fix the voter fraud? Could this be used in other states also?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (+9AX9)

234 Accept - The Quick And The Dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_6ICC0PZuI

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (LUnTP)

235 Ladies- (guys, I don't care) what's your position on facial hair? Yes? No? It's coming in full (I've always been a hairy guy (but no back hair)). If I decide to keep, should leave as-is, or use that for men facial hair dye? Discuss.
Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 10:47 PM (HqXYa)
Love beards, verysexy in my opinion, sadly my hubby cant have one because of work, but always loved him with a beard. Keep it real

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:50 PM (adaoe)

236 (I've always been a hairy guy (but no back
hair))


These statements are contradictory.

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2012 10:50 PM (z9HTb)

237 I just watched a Ford Bronco take 25 minutes trying to drive a block past my house. There was no way he had that thing in 4WD....that, or he failed to lock his hubs. Either way, I think the poor sod burned about half a tank of gas between the first, and second entrances to the high school parking lot....which they've been trying to plow all evening. Unsuccessfully.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 26, 2012 10:51 PM (L7hol)

238 No? It's coming in full (I've always been a hairy guy (but no back

hair)). If I decide to keep, should leave as-is, or use that for men

facial hair dye? Discuss. Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 10:47 PM (HqXYa)

Not a fan of facial hair beyond a mustache. For goodness sake, do not dye it, you will look like you pasted a piece of carpet you cut out of a wrecked car on your face. I know a guy who dies his beard and it is not possible to look dumber or less appealing than he does.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:51 PM (kXoT0)

239 I'm going toward a 3rd party too, esp. in light of that deal the 'pubes made to NEVER challenge voter fraud.
Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 10:35 PM (oknl
---

I agree. Even if it takes 20 years to overcome the GOP (I think it would take much less), it's worth it. It's not as if Republican leadership has done anything to turn back the tide of progressivism in the last 25 years and as it is they're mostly pro-serfdom anyway.

Of course, they'll concern troll us with the same arguments the progs make against opening up ANWR.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 26, 2012 10:51 PM (BgIBZ)

240 Remember guys and gals I has running short too, just like you know who.


I can prance around in them also, you want to watch?




?



Posted by: Michelle Obamma at December 26, 2012 10:52 PM (jfSqj)

241 I played this a lot four years ago, playing it a lot again ...

Brian Wilson rehearsal video - I Just Wasn't Made For These Times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRHLAnd83g

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:52 PM (wwsoB)

242 Can't buy booze after 9pm in TX? Say what now?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:46 PM (HDgX3)

Liquor stores have to close at 9PM in Texas and can't open on Sunday.

Can't buy alcohol after midnight except on Saturday night in which case you can't buy after 1AM (and then can't be sold again until noon on Sunday).

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:52 PM (LUnTP)

243 So, to get to my point I want to thank y'all for giving me the opportunity to laugh again. You guys are awesome (well, most of you.) Merry Christmas and a premature Happy New Year.
Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 10:43 PM (MuE6W)
---

Merry Christmas olddog, God bless.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 26, 2012 10:53 PM (BgIBZ)

244 Accept - The Galley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g32ce9vps0g

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:53 PM (LUnTP)

245 Evidently you missed the memo. It's not just the
rates -- there's a mind-numbing number of major changes -- like
http://tinyurl.com/bsxc8y7 or the lack of adjustment to the AMT
threshold, or the lowered rate for capital gains....


Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (kaalw)


In addition, you wouldn't be clearing $250K if you weren't somehow RAPING the PLANET!!! So, prepare to be regulated into bankruptcy.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:53 PM (kaalw)

246 Evidently you missed the memo. It's not just the
rates -- there's a mind-numbing number of major changes -- like
http://tinyurl.com/bsxc8y7 or the lack of adjustment to the AMT
threshold, or the lowered rate for capital gains....


Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (kaalw)

___________________________
Oh noes the AMT!!! Maybe you missed the other memo about the AMT. Every year it's the same thing with the AMT. Headlines scream about millions of middle class families getting trapped in the AMT unless a last minute patch is passed by congress. And every year the patch is passed. This has been going on for decades now.

Ask your clients even if they can even tell you what the AMT is. I'll bet 99% can't. But they're paralyzed over it. LOL.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:53 PM (HDgX3)

247 You're my parking lot soul mate

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 26, 2012 10:54 PM (tdaam)

248
Lost my 25 yo son May 2010. Lost my 87 yo mom Sept 2011. Put 14 yo dog down this summer.

Damn. Sorry to hear this. I hope things cheer up for you.

Several years ago I lost my job, my dog, and my Dad in the space of two months leading up to Christmas. I flinched whenever the phone rang. Literally.

There were a lot of tears that Christmas, so I can relate, and hope things look up for you soon.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM (4u2LN)

249 And that completes the latest Accept album, Stalingrad.

Wow, that's a motherfucker of an album!

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM (LUnTP)

250 Ladies- (guys, I don't care) what's your position on facial hair? Yes? No? It's coming in full (I've always been a hairy guy (but no back hair)). If I decide to keep, should leave as-is, or use that for men facial hair dye? Discuss. Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 10:47 PM (HqXYa)

Beard - fine. Facial hair dye - no. I like beards on guys if they are neatly trimmed. Scraggly beards are for hobos.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM (BStAJ)

251 Lost my 25 yo son May 2010. Lost my 87 yo mom Sept 2011. Put 14 yo dog down this summer. I cry alot. Christmas is hard.
So, to get to my point I want to thank y'all for giving me the opportunity to laugh again. You guys are awesome (well, most of you.) Merry Christmas and a premature Happy New Year.
Posted by: olddog


Don't know how to answer that funny like. Be well. Be safe. And may you have better days.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM (KDq5l)

252
In addition, you wouldn't be clearing $250K if
you weren't somehow RAPING the PLANET!!! So, prepare to be regulated
into bankruptcy.


Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:53 PM (kaalw)

______________
Come on. So first the the paralysis is over rates. Then over AMT. Now over regulation. Give me a break.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM (HDgX3)

253
Evidently you missed the memo. It's not just the
rates -- there's a mind-numbing number of major changes -- like
http://tinyurl.com/bsxc8y7 or the lack of adjustment to the AMT
threshold, or the lowered rate for capital gains....


Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (kaalw)

Yep, that change is going to make 4th quarter 2012 vehicle purchases numbers look good, but in 2013 those dealerships will look like ghost towns.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM (Zd/NW)

254
olddog at December 26, 2012 10:43 PM
If any of us said something stupid that made you laughand just for a minute you forgot your problemsthen we've done our job.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 10:56 PM (+9AX9)

255 Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 26, 2012 10:54 PM (tdaam)


you want a back rub?


I'm all alone here.....




Posted by: Michelle Obamma at December 26, 2012 10:57 PM (jfSqj)

256 Come on. So first the the paralysis is over rates. Then over AMT. Now over regulation. Give me a break.


Tell us again, what is your motivation for leaving the country?

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2012 10:57 PM (z9HTb)

257 "Ask me my opinion of Rent. I dare you.




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:30 PM (Gk3SS)"Yeah, I walked out of Les Mis about 12 years ago. Never understood the love for it.

Posted by: holygoat at December 26, 2012 10:57 PM (IGIFh)

258 Chicks who say "We're Soulmates" = Future Crazed Stalkers.

Heh, once had that line dropped on me. I turned and said, I'm sorry, that's not possible. I don't have a soul.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 26, 2012 10:58 PM (xKC/c)

259 So how did OK fix the voter fraud? Could this be used in other states also?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (+9AX9)
We put a cohesive set of rules/laws in place that controls the way the whole state votes. We all vote on the same machines, which are stored in various warehouses and are randomly sent to the precincts the night before an election. We have procedures in place with actual pictures as to what a valid vote looks like for recount purposes. You want more than one recount, you pay for it. We purge our voters rolls regularly--if you fail to vote in two consecutive major elections, you are taken off the rolls. It is all common sense, really, but, the main thing is the two big cities do not have their "own way of doing things" a la Chicago or NYC or SF or LA.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:58 PM (kXoT0)

260
Not a fan of facial hair beyond a mustache. For goodness sake, do not
dye it, you will look like you pasted a piece of carpet you cut out of a
wrecked car on your face. I know a guy who dies his beard and it is not
possible to look dumber or less appealing than he does.


I see one guy frequently at the store I tend to shop at....he's about my age, but balding. He keeps his hair cut short, and it looks like he plasters what little he has left to his head with mud. Thick gooey brown mud, I'm guessing to hide the fact that he's 3/4 bald. He dyes it too. It's the funniest damn thing....you can't help but just stare at him.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 26, 2012 10:58 PM (L7hol)

261 Brian Wilson rehearsal video - I Just Wasn't Made For These Times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRHLAnd83g



Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:52 PM

I love that video for the braless blonde backup singer next to the window and for the harmonies but mainly for the braless blonde.

I just wish the Chris Christie backup wasn't standing in front of her, she's also wearing tight jeans over an ass you could bounce a quarter off of.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 10:58 PM (wwsoB)

262 Robert, where the hell is my pumpkin pie and ham, waiting.....
Oh well, guess i will go smoke.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:59 PM (adaoe)

263 God bless you, olddog. I lost my mother a month before Christmas 1985 and that was a very, very hard Christmas indeed. Not a day goes by that I don't think of her and my dad.

May the next year be a better one for you.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 10:59 PM (BStAJ)

264 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until
after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 09:30 PM (Gk3SS)"Yeah, I
walked out of Les Mis about 12 years ago. Never understood the love for
it.


Posted by: holygoat at December 26, 2012 10:57 PM (IGIFh)

Exactly why I love you guys. I hate most of the music from Cats, loathe the music from Les Mis and Rent.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:59 PM (kXoT0)

265 Tax changes happen every year. Every single year. That's why there are hundreds of thousands of tax accountants and lawyers out there. Stop freaking out.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:00 PM (HDgX3)

266 256
Come on. So first the the paralysis is over rates. Then over AMT. Now over regulation. Give me a break.


Tell us again, what is your motivation for leaving the country?


Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2012 10:57 PM (z9HTb)

___________________
It sure as hell isn't the AMT.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:00 PM (HDgX3)

267 Chicks who say "We're Soulmates" = Future Crazed Stalkers.Heh, once had that line dropped on me. I turned and said, I'm sorry, that's not possible. I don't have a soul.

My daughter keeps me up to date on the corniest pickup lines going around at her middle school. One of the latest: "I hope YOU know where we are 'cause I'm lost in your eyes."

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 11:01 PM (oknl8)

268
219 223 224
Thank You.

Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 11:01 PM (MuE6W)

269
Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 10:49 PM (jfSqj)

I worked that premature thing a long time ago. Now just happy if it shoots.

Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 11:02 PM (MuE6W)

270 I see one guy frequently at the store I tend to shop
at....he's about my age, but balding. He keeps his hair cut short, and
it looks like he plasters what little he has left to his head with mud.
Thick gooey brown mud, I'm guessing to hide the fact that he's 3/4 bald.
He dyes it too. It's the funniest damn thing....you can't help but just
stare at him.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 26, 2012 10:58 PM

Correction, I .... WAS bald !!

Posted by: Guy in the store at December 26, 2012 11:03 PM (wwsoB)

271 The Republicans have had their nutsack permanently detached and placed in a mason jar in Nancy Pelosi's broom closet. Seems to me that Boner and Hastert were less than stellar Speakers. I was just telling my boss this today- it's sad when Nancy P. has a bigger set of balls than our team. But, tit is was tit is.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:03 PM (0SmH0)

272 It sure as hell isn't the AMT.


What else isn't it?

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2012 11:03 PM (z9HTb)

273
olddog @ 213

I lost my Mom in 2010 to a stupid drunken jerk in an old Ford pickup that just about tore my sister's SUV apart (hurt my sister and her husband, and busted my poor old mother to pieces).
Something terrible has overtaken my oldest sister's daughter, and her life is frankly a disaster area. My sister is heartbroken. I feel terrible a lot of the time about something that I can do nothing about.

Losing your son had to be heartbreaking. I think if I lost one of my sons it would kill me. God be with you, He has not forgotten you.

And that should remind the rest of us to be a lot more damn funny here. We have standards to keep and people are depending on us to generate some big yucks.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:03 PM (Md8Uo)

274 where the hell is my pumpkin pie and ham, waiting.....
Oh well, guess i will go smoke.
Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 10:59 PM (adaoe)

They're waiting in my fridge, of course!

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:03 PM (LUnTP)

275 I just hate these talking points thrown about by the right about companies paralyzed over tax rates or laughably the AMT. The fact of the matter is very very few small businesses will be affected by the tax rate increases. And that's what this is all about. Will it be 35% or 39.6% on the 250,001st NET dollar earned The rest is a sideshow for tax accountants and lawyers to worry about, which is what they get paid for.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:04 PM (HDgX3)

276 Actually, if you dye your facial hair, your chin will look like the back of Mooch's head when she takes the wig du jour off for the night. Mud is purty compared to that.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 11:04 PM (kXoT0)

277 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 10:58 PM (kXoT0)

Did that come about via a vote of both parties or what?

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 11:04 PM (oknl8)

278 Moo Moo- did I read earlier today that you also reside in the People's State of WA?

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:05 PM (0SmH0)

279 I'm guessing to hide the fact that he's 3/4 bald.
He dyes it too. It's the funniest damn thing....you can't help but just
stare at him.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 26, 2012 10:58 PM

that is hot.





Posted by: Mercedes Paris Hilton at December 26, 2012 11:05 PM (jfSqj)

280 The Republicans have had their nutsack permanently
detached and placed in a mason jar in Nancy Pelosi's broom closet.
Seems to me that Boner and Hastert were less than stellar Speakers. I
was just telling my boss this today- it's sad when Nancy P. has a bigger
set of balls than our team. But, tit is was tit is. Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:03 PM (0SmH0)

That is why Newt is invincible, Callista has his under lock and key in her purse.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 11:06 PM (kXoT0)

281 Ok just saw some kind of Led Zep tribute on TV, where Ann Wilson sang the end, LZ was there but so was that JEF pretending to nod but no way that Kenyan ever heard of Zep.Aaaaaaaamy hate is painful

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 26, 2012 11:06 PM (FvWRE)

282 Come on. So first the the paralysis is over rates. Then over AMT. Now over regulation. Give me a break.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM

Give us that attitude a few months from now when you come here asking us "how do I get a government ramrod out of my ass and how did it get there"

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 11:07 PM (wwsoB)

283 278
Moo Moo- did I read earlier today that you also reside in the People's State of WA?

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:05 PM (0SmH0)

___________________
I do. But I wouldn't go so far as to call it the People's State of WA. We don't have an income tax here.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:07 PM (HDgX3)

284 You guys are awesome (well, most of you.)

Will clown for beer....

look like the back of Mooch's head when she takes the wig du jour off for the night.

...and brain bleach.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 26, 2012 11:08 PM (6Uliu)

285 Thick gooey brown mud, I'm guessing to hide the fact that he's 3/4 bald. He dyes it too. It's the funniest damn thing....you can't help but just stare at him. Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 26, 2012 10:58 PM (L7hol)

The creepiest dye job on a guy that I've ever seen was one sported by a old man who used to attend my church. He was in his 70s and had shoulder length, thinning, and very blond hair. Those golden locks on an elderly geezer made him look ridiculous. No, Robert Redford and Redford wannabes- there comes a time when you cannot pull off blond dye jobs anymore. That's true of women too, but it's even weirder on old men.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 11:08 PM (BStAJ)

286 I worked that premature thing a long time ago. Now just happy if it shoots.
Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 11:02 PM (MuE6W)

just trying to help


we got real low standards here









!

Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 11:09 PM (jfSqj)

287 I just hate these talking points thrown about by the right about companies paralyzed over tax rates or laughably the AMT. The fact of the matter is very very few small businesses will be affected by the tax rate increases.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo


Oh, that makes it all the better. Viva la IRS!

So, what's your tax bracket, asshole?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 11:09 PM (KDq5l)

288 282
Come on. So first the the paralysis is over rates. Then over AMT. Now over regulation. Give me a break.



Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM

Give us
that attitude a few months from now when you come here asking us "how do
I get a government ramrod out of my ass and how did it get there"



Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 11:07 PM (wwsoB)

_______________________________
The govt ramrod has been there for years. It won't change because the 250,0001st dollar is now taxed at 39.6% instead of 35%. That's my whole point. And if a business is paralyzed over it, the business owners are idiots. People lose money when they either panic or they freeze. People make money when they act to take advantage of the current situation.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:10 PM (HDgX3)

289 Ann Wilson was on stage? Did it tip over?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:10 PM (Md8Uo)

290 Moo Moo. Well, with Inslee in, you can bet your nutsack it will come up eventually, though with the Senate going to the Republicans (we'll see how long that lasts) we are safe for a bit. Honestly, though, with the amount of property tax plus sales tax it and other assorted taxes, it might be a wash compared to other states with income tax.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:10 PM (0SmH0)

291 Oh, that makes it all the better. Viva la IRS!



So, what's your tax bracket, asshole?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 11:09 PM (KDq5l)

____________________
When did I say viva la IRS? I want lower taxes. But I'm not going to sound like a fucking imbecile and say I am paralyzed in my daily life over the 250,000 1st dollar I earn being taxed an extra 4.6%. Sorry, that is just fucking insane.
For 2012 I will be paying close to $40K in federal income tax if you must know. So don't tell me about taxes. I know all about it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:11 PM (HDgX3)

292 Out with my mom today and the phone rings its her doctor. Apparently her last mammogram showed a suspicious mass in one of her breasts. Not pushing the panic button yet as they are re scheduling another test, but If you rons and ettes have the time and the inclination, please add her to your thoughts.


Posted by: helofixer at December 26, 2012 11:11 PM (0sxqO)

293 Did that come about via a vote of both parties or what?

Posted by: RushBabe at December 26, 2012 11:04 PM (oknl
I am ashamed to say that I do not remember exactly how it came to be. It just amazes me the voting messes that is allowed to exist in other states. But, it has been that way since the 80s. The 70s saw the last of our criminal Dims out of office. We actually had a Dim Governor who had been in prison in the early 70s. In the 80s, the state was flush with oil money and oil money tends to be Conservative. We did have some excellent Conservative Democrats in the 70s. I think the big money guys in charge of the state's economy said, "Clean this up. We don't want to be ashamed of the way we do things here."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 11:12 PM (kXoT0)

294 we got real low standards here

I resent that.

I won't deny it, but I do resent it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 26, 2012 11:12 PM (xKC/c)

295
Losing your son had to be heartbreaking
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:03 PM (Md8Uo)
Yes, it was. He was given his law degree posthousmaly.

Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 11:12 PM (MuE6W)

296 I think bald is better then any alternative, toupee, combover, spray on hair. Sheesh

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:12 PM (adaoe)

297 When did I say viva la IRS? I want lower taxes.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

I just hate these talking points thrown about by the right about companies paralyzed over tax rates or laughably the AMT.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo


Sorry, amigo, can't have it both ways.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 11:13 PM (KDq5l)

298 posthousmaly = posthumously

Posted by: olddog at December 26, 2012 11:13 PM (MuE6W)

299 Ann Wilson was on stage? Did it tip over?
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:10 PM (Md8Uo)



is that the skinny one or the chubby one?





?

Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 11:14 PM (jfSqj)

300 Posted by: helofixer at December 26, 2012 11:11 PM (0sxqO)

Done, good thoughts. Prayer sent.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:14 PM (adaoe)

301 Come on. So first the the paralysis is over rates. Then over AMT. Now over regulation. Give me a break.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM (HDgX3)


The paralysis is over regime uncertainty, which is manifested in taxes -- which are comprised of several moving parts, including rates, categorizations, deductions, and even the AMT -- AND required business expenses, which would include general insurance (which is going up), medical insurance (which is going way up), compliance costs (payroll processors have NO clue how to prepare the initial payroll of 2013), employer costs (Obamacare kicks in at the 31st employee once you go past 50?!?), legal exposure (Lily Ledbetter act, anyone?), AND regulatory malfeasance, like the EPA's Cross-State rule ( http://tinyurl.com/7dtxw9u ), compounded by secondary effects (as the Cross-State rule will increase electricity costs markedly in most markets).

A single tick might seem insignificant, but when they totally cover an animal the results are very significant. Ask these guys http://tinyurl.com/cq3v7wk if it was the regulations or the taxes that did 'em in.... Surprise! It was neither -- it was just the government being capricious and fickle. Regime uncertainty.


And all of which interferes with the business' primary aim -- to please enough customers that they are showered with money, at a cost where the customers think they got the best of the deal.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:14 PM (kaalw)

302 ...and brain bleach.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 26, 2012 11:08 PM (6Uliu)

Sorry, HR, but, we must discourage the dying of facial hair....a price must be paid.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 11:14 PM (kXoT0)

303 290
Moo Moo. Well, with Inslee in, you can bet your nutsack it will come up
eventually, though with the Senate going to the Republicans (we'll see
how long that lasts) we are safe for a bit. Honestly, though, with the
amount of property tax plus sales tax it and other assorted taxes, it
might be a wash compared to other states with income tax.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:10 PM (0SmH0)

___________________________________
In 2010 we voted it down 65-35 so I don't see it happening any time soon.
I'd rather have a high sales tax and no income tax since I live close to Idaho and do most of my shopping there

So Idaho has a 6% income tax and a 6% sales tax. We have an 8.7% sales tax (in my county) and no income tax. That's a much better deal IMO. Now granted property tax is much higher on the WA side than the ID for a similar house. But even so, not having that 6% income tax still leaves me better off over all. Everyone's situation will be different of course. In general though for an evil rich white person like myself who makes a lot, doesn't spend too much, 0% income tax is a better deal.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:15 PM (HDgX3)

304 helofixer...good thoughts and prayers for you Mom...

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 11:16 PM (kXoT0)

305 (Obamacare kicks in at the 31st employee once you go past 50?!?)

Math...how does it work?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 26, 2012 11:16 PM (6Uliu)

306
Ann Wilson = fat sister that sings real loud. Always had a big bag of Snickers bars nearby.

Nancy was the skinnier blond sister with somtimes big hair that played the Geetar.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:17 PM (Md8Uo)

307 Scraggly beards are for hobos.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 10:55 PM (BStAJ)

Hey! I ain't a hobo, Jack!

Posted by: Uncle Si at December 26, 2012 11:18 PM (svK4p)

308 Math, it works every damn time--even when you ignore it.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 11:18 PM (kXoT0)

309
helofixer at December 26, 2012 11:11 PM
Pray sent.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:18 PM (+9AX9)

310 Taxing consumption is a far more equitable system than taxing income

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 26, 2012 11:18 PM (JMmQ9)

311 Moo Moo- ah, well, you live on the East side…where some sanity still reigns. I'm just south of the nexus of evil (King CO), where property taxes are still quite high and continue to go up as values go down.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (0SmH0)

312 I think bald is better then any alternative, toupee, combover, spray on hair. Sheesh
Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:12 PM (adaoe)


I tried 'spray on pub's' but it did not work out too good.

It ended up all over her legs, tummy and the sheets!


aparently 'spray on pub's' does not wash out with Tide laundry soap very well



who knew?




?

Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (jfSqj)

313 Night, everyone...back to work tomorrow...so I need some sleep

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (kXoT0)

314 Happy Boxing Day and enjoy the ONT, hordelings. See you tomorrow.

Posted by: joncelli at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (CWlPF)

315 Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:14 PM (kaalw)

_____________

We've had Obama for 4 years. We know what he's about. If the business is still paralyzed 4 years later they'll be paralyzed 40 years from now too.

As for payroll....for fuck's sake it's a few keystrokes to change the withholding amount. Again, if this is paralyzing companies, these companies are going to go under tax increase or no tax increase.

A well run business, runs its business and lets accountants worry about payroll. A poorly run business is paralyzed by payroll changes.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (HDgX3)

316
The creepiest dye job on a guy that I've ever
seen was one sported by a old man who used to attend my church. He was
in his 70s and had shoulder length, thinning, and very blond hair. Those
golden locks on an elderly geezer made him look ridiculous. No, Robert
Redford and Redford wannabes- there comes a time when you cannot pull
off blond dye jobs anymore. That's true of women too, but it's even
weirder on old men.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 11:08 PM (BStAJ)

Whoooooo, but the Nature Boy still pulls it off!! WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ric Flair at December 26, 2012 11:20 PM (Zd/NW)

317 we got real low standards here

Crap. Now I've got to raise mine to meet the minimum standard.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:21 PM (+9AX9)

318 ?
Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (jfSqj)

Yeah, no.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:21 PM (adaoe)

319 213 > @ olddog - I come here for the chuckles also. There are some clever folks here! Laughter is the best medicine. Good for you!

Posted by: carolina at December 26, 2012 11:22 PM (JebKA)

320 311
Moo Moo- ah, well, you live on the East side…where some sanity still
reigns. I'm just south of the nexus of evil (King CO), where property
taxes are still quite high and continue to go up as values go down.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (0SmH0)

__________________
It's saneER but we still have to abide by what our overlords in Olympia say. Property tax rates aren't any lower here than King Co by the way. It's just houses cost less so we pay less actual tax. But rates are the same. On a 500K house the tax bill is about $6500-7000. But again, I'll take that vs. paying an income tax of 5% which for me would mean well over $10K.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:22 PM (HDgX3)

321 Preach on Broooooother!

Posted by: Hulkster at December 26, 2012 11:22 PM (IvVLN)

322 Not pushing the panic button yet as they are re scheduling another test, but If you rons and ettes have the time and the inclination, please add her to your thoughts. Posted by: helofixer at December 26, 2012 11:11 PM (0sxqO)

I went through that about a month ago. During the second visit, the tech did an ultrasound and then came back and told me the radiologist wanted to come in and do another one herself. I had a bad 10 minutes or so waiting for her - but it turned out to be nothing. The overwhelming majority of call backs are false positives - they need to cover their butts. Still, it is nerve wracking. I hope all goes well with your mom.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 11:22 PM (BStAJ)

323 265
Tax changes happen every year. Every single year. That's why there are
hundreds of thousands of tax accountants and lawyers out there. Stop
freaking out.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:00 PM (HDgX3)


Dude, I'm a CPA -- are you? I've done hundreds of returns, mostly back in the dark ages of the 80's but to some degree up through the present. This is a clusterfuck of epic proportions -- and not entirely due to the "fiscal cliff" or "Bush tax cuts" nonsense or even Obamacare, but because of the huge decoupling between things they are trying and things that have ever worked.


They are seriously proposing to have the IRS set up tax forms for policy decisions that they made after the blackletter law they crammed through in the middle of the night failed to work. That way lies madness, and -- believe me -- I know madness.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:22 PM (kaalw)

324
The "paralysis" from the unknown taxes about to be levied are again a major reason that capital intensive businesses (like manufacturing) are exiting the US and going to someplace in Asia or Mexico. And have been for a good long time.
We keep punishing capital formation and the government wonders why the rate of investment and capital returns don't get better. Obama and his gang of loons are an either an inumerate bunch of ninnies or a malevolent cabal of Marxist demogogues.

Or maybe .....BOTH!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:23 PM (Md8Uo)

325 Say what you want about her weight, Ann Wilson can still wail with the best, and I do mean best, of them. Not surprising since back in the day she was the best of them. Her and Nancy were joined by Jason Bonham on "Stairway."
Kid Rock sang too. Kept hoping he'd flip barky off.

Posted by: teej at December 26, 2012 11:23 PM (SgWU/)

326 Stay sane, Morons. Mrs Squirrel and I just received Boardwalk Empire Season 2 on le Netflix, so gotta get my fix.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls Und Sheft at December 26, 2012 11:23 PM (0SmH0)

327 306

Ann Wilson = fat sister that sings real loud. Always had a big bag of Snickers bars nearby.

Nancy was the skinnier blond sister with somtimes big hair that played the Geetar.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:17 PM (Md8Uo)

I would have nailed both back in the 70's.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 26, 2012 11:24 PM (Zd/NW)

328 B.B. Don't resent it; embrace it. That is very liberating.

Posted by: CMU VET at December 26, 2012 11:24 PM (dPSpR)

329 Run away women because I do believe in soulmates. It goes with my self described optimistic realist personality.

Posted by: polynikes at December 26, 2012 11:24 PM (is2uy)

330 A well run business, runs its business and lets accountants worry about payroll. A poorly run business is paralyzed by payroll changes.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (HDgX3)

If you are a small business person, and have that attitude, you MUST have a business that has a steady margin IE: Gov't; whether your a MD, JD, parasite etc.

Posted by: MidwesternSceptic at December 26, 2012 11:25 PM (cxl8k)

331 Santa brought me something worse than coal for Christmas...Windows 8

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at December 26, 2012 11:25 PM (gkfSV)

332 Santa brought me something worse than coal for Christmas...Windows 8

That's it then, nuke the North Pole.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 26, 2012 11:26 PM (xKC/c)

333 What a wonderful story about Shransky; Thanks so much!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2012 11:26 PM (VLe4D)

334 319 213 > @ olddog - I come here for the chuckles also. There are some clever folks here! Laughter is the best medicine. Good for you!
Posted by: carolina at December 26, 2012 11:22 PM (JebKA)

I read a bunch of blogs nightly, hubby watches sports. He always knows when I get to AOS because I start laughing, lotta funny folks here!

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:26 PM (adaoe)

335 Good to see family.

One major annoyance was being forced to sit through that stupid Kennedy Center show. The women wanted to watch it. Ugh. One left-wing asshole after another got up to be awarded and cheered and fawned over while Obama and his bitch wife look on like Emperor Palpatine from on high.

Not a big deal in the grand scheme. But I generally refuse to watch that fucker on my TV. Or left-wing assholes like Alec Baldwin, Letterman, and the other assorted leftards being honored.

And most of the rest of the family wouldn't consider my anger legitimate -- these are artists being honored for being wonderful artists! Why are you making this political? they would say.

Of course, they would be offended if I asked them spend Christmas family time watching a 3 hr tribute to Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney.

So I just had to sit there and take it for the sake of family harmony. Last Christmas I earned the wrath of the womenfolk for talking politics. This year I kept my mouth shut.

Trying to keep positive. Good to see the young kids.

Annoyed the pervasive left-wing Obama-scum media invade my freaking Christmas.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (R+6Q+)

336 Up next...the Christmas eve killings and how they are furthering the gun control debate....:-)

-Michael Eric Dyson



This fucker couldn't have said it in a happier tone.

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (sqp6o)

337 The "paralysis" from the unknown taxes about to be
levied are again a major reason that capital intensive businesses (like
manufacturing) are exiting the US and going to someplace in Asia or
Mexico. And have been for a good long time.


Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:23 PM (Md8Uo)

____________________
Companies are leaving for an overall lower cost of doing business. They're not leaving because of uncertainty. If you think the fiscal cliff is "uncertain" you've obviously never done business in a 2nd or 3rd world country. You want to see uncertainty? Open up a plant in China and within 3 months every contract you signed is renegotiated or ignored completely. And yet your premise is that companies are going there to avoid uncertainty over the fiscal cliff? Hilarious.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (HDgX3)

338 Evening Horde.


So what say you?



Remington 870 Express Tactical?

http://tinyurl.com/ctah9c4



Or Mossburg 535 Tactical?

http://tinyurl.com/997vzya

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (IvVLN)

339 On a 500K house the tax bill is about $6500-7000. But again, I'll take that vs. paying an income tax of 5% which for me would mean well over $10K.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:22 PM (HDgX3)


fuck, that is some expensive prop tax compared to ID


not sure about up North but down south that if a fuck load of taxes comparatively almost double










Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (jfSqj)

340 The "paralysis" from the unknown taxes about to be levied are again a major reason that capital intensive businesses (like manufacturing) are exiting the US and going to someplace in Asia or Mexico. And have been for a good long time.We keep punishing capital formation and the government wonders why the rate of investment and capital returns don't get better. Obama and his gang of loons are an either an inumerate bunch of ninnies or a malevolent cabal of Marxist demogogues.Or maybe .....BOTH!


Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:23 PM



Never ascribe to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice...

...and copiousamounts of cocaine.

Posted by: otho at December 26, 2012 11:29 PM (yBF/9)

341 Any of the horde see 'Les Mis?'

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:29 PM (sqp6o)

342 330
A well run business, runs its business and lets accountants worry about
payroll. A poorly run business is paralyzed by payroll changes.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:19 PM (HDgX3)



If you are a small business person, and have that attitude, you MUST
have a business that has a steady margin IE: Gov't; whether your a MD,
JD, parasite etc.

Posted by: MidwesternSceptic at December 26, 2012 11:25 PM (cxl8k)

_________________________________________
An MD is a parasite? WTF?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:30 PM (HDgX3)

343 So I apparently have the TMNT cartoon set coming to me as a late Christmas gift. I got too many tv show box sets for Christmas :/

Posted by: The Dude at December 26, 2012 11:31 PM (tw6Ar)

344 ....is every bit as fake as Jenna Jameson

Crazy talk.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 26, 2012 11:31 PM (98AOY)

345
I read a bunch of blogs nightly, hubby watches sports. He always knows when I get to AOS because I start laughing, lotta funny folks here!

Honeymoon's over already?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:32 PM (+9AX9)

346 So what say you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (IvVLN)

Dammit. We have to save Minas Tirith again?!?

Posted by: Undead Army (aka Deus Ex Machina) at December 26, 2012 11:34 PM (sqp6o)

347 I guess what I'm saying is WA is overall not a horrible place tax wise. It has the reputation of CA North which is certainly deserved in many aspects. But tax wise we're not anywhere close to the insanity of California.

I've always thought a great place to live would be Vancouver, WA. No state income tax in WA, then right across the river in Oregon (Portland area) there is no state sales tax. Best of both worlds...if you can put up with 6 months of constant rain.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:35 PM (HDgX3)

348
My company (I'm not in charge, I just work there) has been doing business successfully in China for more than a few years. Also in India, Sri Lanka and Viet Nam.

I think you really don't know as much as you think you do about what you're talking about. For all of my adult life (about 37 years) I have seen nothing but the de-industrialization of my home state (Ohio) and the jobs go to Mexico or somewhere in Asia. The inpenetrable logic of bad tax policy seems to be a conundrum that many politicians cannot quite comprehend.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:35 PM (Md8Uo)

349 Any of the horde see 'Les Mis?'

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:29 PM (sqp6o)

See discussion at beginning of thread.

I gave it five stars but few people here dig musicals.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:36 PM (LUnTP)

350 Posted by: The Dude at December 26, 2012 11:31 PM (tw6Ar)


80s or 00s TMNT?

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:37 PM (LUnTP)

351 Honeymoon's over already?
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:32 PM (+9AX9)

No, hubby worked 11 hours today. Hes tired. But he gets six days off starting friday

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:39 PM (adaoe)

352 They are seriously proposing to have the IRS set up tax forms for policy
decisions that they made after the blackletter law they crammed through
in the middle of the night failed to work. That way lies madness, and
-- believe me -- I know madness.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:22 PM (kaalw)


Forget it cthulhu - commenter Mr. Moo Moo has assured us all that the coming
tax and regulatory changes are nothing to worry about.

And that's just the kind of assurance that's guaranteed to stand up in IRS hearings and shareholder lawsuits.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 26, 2012 11:39 PM (XkotV)

353 Evening Horde.


So what say you?


Remington 870 Express Tactical?


Or Mossburg 535 Tactical?


Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (IvVLN)


persoanly neither


get a 28 inch barel Remington 870 with screw in chokes
get a Nordic Components magazine extension to add 7 shells in the tube


that way you will have 11 in the magazine + 1 in the chamber


12 rounds of 12 ga. should fix all you problems




Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 11:39 PM (jfSqj)

354 Dammit!


COB!!!



*dives for pants*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:40 PM (IvVLN)

355 349
I gave it five stars but few people here dig musicals.


Metal...and musicals. Interesting eclectic tastes.

I don't like musicals myself, but I liked the book, with reservations. Biggest reservation was the 30 page digression into some war scene that you actually had to read because at the very very end was something crucial to the plot.

There is a story that a French person into culture was asked who was the greatest French novelist. He answered: "Alas! Victor Hugo." Anyone who has made it through his books can identify with that, the good and the bad.

Posted by: Splunge at December 26, 2012 11:40 PM (2IW5Q)

356 BCochran1981: I have both a Mossberg and an 870. Both are good; the one feature I like on the Mossberg is that the feeding ramp doesn't interfere with loading shells into the magazine tube. (1) It's easier on your thumb; (2) on occasion, with the 870, you can get a shell trapped betwen the feeding ramp and a closed chamber. It's a fairly easy fix, but not the sort of thing you want to happen in a crisis. Also, the Mossberg (at least, mine) has an ambidextrous safety, so it might be more user-friendly if a southpaw has to use it.

Posted by: PabloD at December 26, 2012 11:41 PM (BoclE)

357 "I would have nailed both back in the 70's."

In a manner of speaking MrCaniac. Nancy was a touch plump even back then but oh my God that face, that voice and that attitude. Don't believe me guys? Check out the u tube Vids of them doing "Crazy On You" and "Magic Man" on "The Midnight Special." I'd post the links but tough on a phone.
It's an easy search and well worth it.

Posted by: teej at December 26, 2012 11:41 PM (hDena)

358 An MD is a parasite? WTF?


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:30 PM (HDgX3)


An individual MD may or may not be a parasite, but he belongs to a system that is absolutely parasitic -- http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3012292 .

For those just casually watching this, it cost a guy $120.55 for his wife to have a baby in a hospital, with a four-day stay, all in.....in 1963, when you had to write a check for it. Now it's an employee benefit, or has to be done by an emergency room under EMTALA, or is mucked with by the Feds.....and costs much, much, much more than the $908.95 2012 dollars that 1963 would have indicated.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:41 PM (kaalw)

359 80s or 00s TMNT?


Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:37 PM


What, no 90's love? Vanilla Ice Turtles rool! Go ninja, go ninja, go!

Posted by: otho at December 26, 2012 11:41 PM (yBF/9)

360 80s or 00s TMNT?

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:37 PM (LUnTP)

80's series. Parents ordered it today from Barnes and Nobel since it's on sale.

Got these boxsets for Christmas:
Batman BeyondAliasUltraman Seven (one of the few things on my list I got)Mighty Morphin Power RangersBatman TAS (to replace my lost copies)Twilight Zone seasons 1 and 2and the Universal monster boxset but that's a different beast

Posted by: The Dude at December 26, 2012 11:43 PM (tw6Ar)

361 I don't want to see Hathaway in ANY movie again. The only movie I ever saw her in she had a terrible English accent. They should have hired a real English actress. She's another vastly overpaid actress who thinks people are supposed to care about her political opinions. She wears an outfit almost cut up to her crotch, doesn't wear underwear and then complains about the objectification of women and the demon parazzi. Nope! Nope! Nope!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2012 11:43 PM (VLe4D)

362 336 Up next...the Christmas eve killings and how they are furthering the gun control debate....:-) -Michael Eric Dyson This fucker couldn't have said it in a happier tone.
Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (sqp6o)

What a creep.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:43 PM (adaoe)

363 My company (I'm not in charge, I just work there)
has been doing business successfully in China for more than a few years.
Also in India, Sri Lanka and Viet Nam.

I think you really don't
know as much as you think you do about what you're talking about. For
all of my adult life (about 37 years) I have seen nothing but the
de-industrialization of my home state (Ohio) and the jobs go to Mexico
or somewhere in Asia. The inpenetrable logic of bad tax policy seems to
be a conundrum that many politicians cannot quite comprehend.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:35 PM (Md8Uo)

_____________

You missed my point completely. I'll try again....
Companies are moving to Asia because Asia is a cheaper place. It has nothing to do with the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff. And you have proven my point by saying this has been going on for as long as you've been alive. And sure companies to well in Asia. But that's DESPITE a lot of uncertainty and risks. I didn't run a company, but I worked for a bank that loaned companies a lot of money. And my job was to analyze the worthiness of these loans. Looking at the books was pretty much worthless. The true value of a company was how well it was connected. Bribes, kickbacks, payoffs...that's how it works. You think 35 vs 39% taxes is a big worry? Try worrying if the son of the minster of such and such that you just paid $250K is really going to come through for you or not and on time. Will that building permit have all the ts crossed? Or will there be another $250K needed. That my friend is uncertainty. Not a fucking AMT patch.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:44 PM (HDgX3)

364 Also, the Mossberg (at least, mine) has an ambidextrous safety, so it might be more user-friendly if a southpaw has to use it.
Posted by: PabloD at December 26, 2012 11:41 PM (BoclE)




*raises left hand*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:44 PM (IvVLN)

365 formatting fail

Posted by: The Dude at December 26, 2012 11:44 PM (tw6Ar)

366 Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:29 PM

"Any of the horde see 'Les Mis?'"


2 stars. Sandra Fluck, doing an impersonation of Gloria Steinem screeching an ode to Gaia, in French, is just too ... comme un suppositoire, mais juste un peu plus fort ...

Posted by: Arbalest at December 26, 2012 11:44 PM (t8dlh)

367
lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:39 PM

Good. Get with the program then. We need more morons!

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:45 PM (+9AX9)

368 Or Mossburg 535 Tactical?
Posted by: BCochran1981


Buy the Mossy 88 and use the savings for ammo.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 11:45 PM (KDq5l)

369 Robert,


I have friends who were drug kicking and screaming to it and they all gave it high marks. Something about dust irritating their eyes though.


Why does everyone on MSNBC have three names or they pronounce their middle initial? There is another class that uses that theme.....nutball ass killers.






Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:45 PM (sqp6o)

370 367 lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:39 PM Good. Get with the program then. We need more morons!
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:45 PM (+9AX9)

Oh hell to the no!! I am a grandma...

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:45 PM (adaoe)

371 Evening Horde. So what say you? Remington 870 Express Tactical? Or Mossburg 535 Tactical? Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (IvVLN) persoanly neither get a 28 inch barel Remington 870 with screw in chokes get a Nordic Components magazine extension to add 7 shells in the tube that way you will have 11 in the magazine + 1 in the chamber 12 rounds of 12 ga. should fix all you problems
Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 11:39 PM (jfSqj)

I concur

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at December 26, 2012 11:46 PM (/7Xis)

372 Forget it cthulhu - commenter Mr. Moo Moo has assured us all that the coming

tax and regulatory changes are nothing to worry about.

And that's just the kind of assurance that's guaranteed to stand up in IRS hearings and shareholder lawsuits.


Posted by: Mætenloch at December 26, 2012 11:39 PM (XkotV)


The MSM constantly says that conservatives are heartless -- and here I am in an airplane coming down with one stuck landing gear trying to convince the guy in the next seat to get into the crash position. "Oh, no -- been through this dozens of times.....it always comes out better than they describe." "It doesn't hurt or even cost much to assume the worst, prepare, and be thankful later."

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:47 PM (kaalw)

373 Posted by: The Dude at December 26, 2012 11:43 PM (tw6Ar)

If you need storage space for any of those I'll gladly hang onto them for you.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:48 PM (LUnTP)

374 2 Realistic does not equal low

Posted by: bill-o at December 26, 2012 11:48 PM (AWwDY)

375 For those just casually watching this, it cost a guy
$120.55 for his wife to have a baby in a hospital, with a four-day
stay, all in.....in 1963, when you had to write a check for it. Now it's
an employee benefit, or has to be done by an emergency room under
EMTALA, or is mucked with by the Feds.....and costs much, much, much
more than the $908.95 2012 dollars that 1963 would have indicated.


Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:41 PM (kaalw)

____________
And this has to do with the fiscal cliff how exactly?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (HDgX3)

376
lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:45 PM

Keep trying anyway. It's fun.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (+9AX9)

377 Why does everyone on MSNBC have three names or they pronounce their
middle initial? There is another class that uses that theme.....nutball
ass killers.



You don't say?

Posted by: Ted Bundy at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (z9HTb)

378 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:28 PM (IvVLN)

Either one is good, go with which ever feels right in your hands.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (svK4p)

379 Yeah, pretty clear what Mr. Moo Moo lacks in actual knowledge he makes up for in condescension.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (R+6Q+)

380 Choose weapons based on your purpose. For home defense either would be fine. And get lots of ammo now just in case what will probably happen. I was at Turner's today (which is a sporting goods store, NOT a gunstore) and it took me an hour to pick up the XD9sc I bought 10 days ago. Place was packed. They were also unloading three 6-foot high palettes full of stacked rifles, shotguns, pistols and lowers. Which were ALL spoken for. No manufacturer in the country is taking orders anymore they're so backed up. Stacks of AR-15's and AR-10's. Ammo going and gonna be the next thing that runs out. Dude I used to get 80% lowers from sold out:100 the next day. I'll tell ya later what else I noticed-

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 11:50 PM (XDC0v)

381 If you need storage space for any of those I'll gladly hang onto them for you.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:48 PM (LUnTP)


The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was an odd one as I wasn't a fan of the show when it aired but can't say no to 73 hours of cheese

Posted by: The Dude at December 26, 2012 11:50 PM (tw6Ar)

382 Posted by: BCochran1981

Or Mossburg 535 Tactical?


IIRC, the 12 ga 535 is chambered for 3-1/2". It will fire any 12 ga ammo, but what about barrel choice?

The 500 has 28" fowling, 24" rifled slug, 18.5" cylinder and .50cal RML ... lots of versatility.

What are the odds of having 12 ga ammo become scarce, and then stumbling upon some ... and it's only 3-1/2"?

Posted by: Arbalest at December 26, 2012 11:50 PM (t8dlh)

383 You know how stupid liberals sound debating gun control? That's how you sound saying the fiscal cliff is paralyzing businesses.

And with that I bid you adieu for the evening.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM (HDgX3)

384 376 lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:45 PM Keep trying anyway. It's fun.
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (+9AX9

Yes I will

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM (adaoe)

385 Yeah, pretty clear what Mr. Moo Moo lacks in actual knowledge he makes up for in condescension.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe


Which would be a first on this blog ...

Maybe we should all greet jimi ray once again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM (KDq5l)

386 Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:43 PM (adaoe)

Same MFer that asked Jordan Ghawi how his sister was doing?

Umm, she was killed in Aurora asshole.

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM (sqp6o)

387 The true value of a company was how well it was
connected. Bribes, kickbacks, payoffs...that's how it works. You think
35 vs 39% taxes is a big worry? Try worrying if the son of the minster
of such and such that you just paid $250K is really going to come
through for you or not and on time. Will that building permit have all
the ts crossed? Or will there be another $250K needed. That my friend is
uncertainty. Not a fucking AMT patch.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:44 PM (HDgX3)


So you concede that regime uncertainty is a serious problem? And that it can be manifested in a variety of ways?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM (kaalw)

388 Either one is good, go with which ever feels right in your hands.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (svK4p)




For some reason, I'm having a hard time finding somewhere that carries either. I'm at my in-laws in NC right now and my FIL (not a "nut", but a very large fan of guns) says that his buddy down the street has the Mossburg 535 that I like. Hoping to get a chance to handle it a bit while I'm here.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:52 PM (IvVLN)

389 I have friends who were drug kicking and screaming to it and they all gave it high marks. Something about dust irritating their eyes though.

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:45 PM (sqp6o)

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:52 PM (LUnTP)

390 358
For those
just casually watching this, it cost a guy $120.55 for his wife to have a
baby in a hospital, with a four-day stay, all in.....in 1963, when you
had to write a check for it. Now it's an employee benefit, or has to be
done by an emergency room under EMTALA, or is mucked with by the
Feds.....and costs much, much, much more than the $908.95 2012 dollars
that 1963 would have indicated.


Of course the technology has improved, and costs money. But that's not the main issue. The main issue is government. First, liability. Trial lawyers and unions own the Democratic party. How often do women give birth conventionally these days? Second, Medicare. This one is complicated. Basically Medicare pays a pittance for medical care, by statute, so they have to make up for it with the paying customers. The insurance companies get a discount too, but not as good a one. If you pay for what you get with a check, the rates will be insane.

Posted by: Splunge at December 26, 2012 11:53 PM (2IW5Q)

391 You bitter clingers have to listen to Mr Moo Moo! The Republic didn't fall when I just put the tip in, so you won't feel much when I push it in another half inch or so.

It's inevitable, so relax and enjoy it!

Posted by: Barry Obullshit at December 26, 2012 11:53 PM (wwsoB)

392 334 > @ lou It is always good to end the day on an up-beat note! And, the price is right! ;-)

Posted by: carolina at December 26, 2012 11:53 PM (z2shr)

393 And belated congrats Lou.

Treat her right.










Kidding...I kid.

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:53 PM (sqp6o)

394 And this has to do with the fiscal cliff how exactly?


Wow. You ask someone a direct question, he gives you a detailed answer and you respond with this?


Don't go away mad...

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2012 11:55 PM (z9HTb)

395 IIRC, the 12 ga 535 is chambered for 3-1/2". It will fire any 12 ga ammo, but what about barrel choice?



It'll accept 2 3/4, 3 or 3 1/2"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 26, 2012 11:55 PM (IvVLN)

396
lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM
Good. Now dig around in the back of your closet and break out the riding crop and spurs. They're right nest to the......Uh, no I've never been in your closet. Honest.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 11:55 PM (+9AX9)

397 The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was an odd one as I wasn't a fan of the show when it aired but can't say no to 73 hours of cheese
Posted by: The Dude at December 26, 2012 11:50 PM (tw6Ar)

I think the only reason kids tuned in to that show was because everyone had a crush on the Pink Ranger, Amy Jo Johnson. I know I wanted to plow her.

The Asian girl was kinda cute in her own way, too.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 11:56 PM (LUnTP)

398 396

lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM
Good. Now dig around
in the back of your closet and break out the riding crop and spurs.
They're right nest to the......Uh, no I've never been in your closet.
Honest.


Lou, I recommend a harsh bit for this one.

Posted by: Splunge at December 26, 2012 11:56 PM (2IW5Q)

399 The Republic didn't fall when I just put the tip in, so you won't feel much when I push it in another half inch or so.



Posted by: Barry Obullshit at December 26, 2012 11:53 PM



Better pray something happens by that time, because at that point you'll have nothing in reserve.

Posted by: Berserker at December 26, 2012 11:56 PM (FMbng)

400 Any time a supposed right-winger or conservative dismisses common fiscal conservative concerns about taxes and regulations as right wing "talking points" I think to myself -- Hey, this guy might a total fucking fraud.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 26, 2012 11:57 PM (R+6Q+)

401 Choose weapons based on your purpose. For home defense either would be fine. And get lots of ammo now just in case what will probably happen. I was at Turner's today (which is a sporting goods store, NOT a gunstore) and it took me an hour to pick up the XD9sc I bought 10 days ago. Place was packed. They were also unloading three 6-foot high palettes full of stacked rifles, shotguns, pistols and lowers. Which were ALL spoken for. No manufacturer in the country is taking orders anymore they're so backed up. Stacks of AR-15's and AR-10's. Ammo going and gonna be the next thing that runs out. Dude I used to get 80% lowers from sold out:100 the next day. I'll tell ya later what else I noticed-
Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 11:50 PM (XDC0v)

I was at bass pro shops they had no .223

Turners has been a zoo lately, like you say

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at December 26, 2012 11:57 PM (/7Xis)

402 Michael Eric Dyson is a drool ghoul.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 26, 2012 11:57 PM (Z5BDI)

403 It'll accept 2 3/4, 3 or 3 1/2"

Yes.

But if you want to use sabots, a rifled slug barrel delivers much better results. I'm uncertain if the 535 has such an option.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 26, 2012 11:58 PM (t8dlh)

404 We should also start thinking about other phrases from the Soviet era:

Nomenklatura

Samizdat (which the Internet and Web obviate---at least until the nomenklatura decides to "regulate" them)

The New Iconostasis : a term from the early Soviet Era, where the portraits of the top figures in the regime were seen to replace the Orthodox icons that Russians historically venerated. We've got our own today, otherwise known as the Media Elite, the Ivy League Dons, the congressional super-stars of the left. And, of course, the portrait of the Holy Redeemer, Teh Won.

See where we're headed.....?

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 26, 2012 11:58 PM (HVtRc)

405 @380

I went to pick up 100 rounds of 9mm this afternoon, and it was all gone at the local Walmart.

I'm starting to cherish my stockpile of .357 rounds

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 26, 2012 11:58 PM (JMmQ9)

406
The AMT and the so-called "patches" that are apparently annually applied to sooth the upper middle class are not the reason for any exodus of companies to Asia. And there are certainly uncertainties to doing business in parts of the Third World (such as Sri Lanka and Viet Nam) that are unknown in countries with a stronger notion of the Rule of Law.

But again, the Rule of Law is a part of any design margin to make a country's legal, banking and governance predictable and understandable.
The point that others seem to be trying to make is that the present Regime is making a hash of the predictability of tax law in particular. The "Fiscal Cliff" is just so much media gobbledigook that glosses over a lot of unknowns. The Senate has only passed continuing budget resolutions for three years. There has been little or no debate of Federal budgeting and practices. The Obama Regime has stymied Congress in their basic duties in oversight, and has no explanation (and won't give one) as to where all the money actually went.

The Obama Regime has been doing their level best to destroy the design margin of the function of many parts of the Federal government, and even the basic understanding of how taxes will be levied for 2012 and into 2013, still up in the air. The Commerce Department has been sitting on the business that my company is in because we import large amounts of a certain commodity from China that has been accused of "dumping" so we literally have to spend hundreds of man hours justifying to the ignorant government hacks who dreamed up this nightmare as to how we are using this commodity. Just one example.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:59 PM (Md8Uo)

407 What are the odds of having 12 ga ammo become scarce, and then stumbling upon some ... and it's only 3-1/2"?

That's what hacksaws are for, my good fellow.

Posted by: Lefty Kowalski at December 26, 2012 11:59 PM (qR+xF)

408 Okay then. Nordic something or other magazine extension for the 870 express and I'm pretty much set.
And Zeppelin on Letterman now so bye.

Posted by: teej at December 27, 2012 12:00 AM (B5s0p)

409 386 Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:43 PM (adaoe) Same MFer that asked Jordan Ghawi how his sister was doing? Umm, she was killed in Aurora asshole.
Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM (sqp6o)

Wow, so evil.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 27, 2012 12:00 AM (adaoe)

410 400
Any time a supposed right-winger or conservative dismisses common fiscal
conservative concerns about taxes and regulations as right wing
"talking points" I think to myself -- Hey, this guy might a total
fucking fraud.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 26, 2012 11:57 PM

Yes, does seem "concerned", doesn't he

I don't think he's a lefty dem moby though, more likely well connected to some establishment Republicans trying to soften us up for the coming sellout

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:01 AM (wwsoB)

411 406
The Obama Regime has been doing their level best to destroy the design
margin of the function of many parts of the Federal government, and even
the basic understanding of how taxes will be levied for 2012 and into
2013, still up in the air.


Yes, this. This regime has literally no clue that business needs to be able to make plans. They see no obligation whatsoever to maintain stability and predictability (aka the Rule of Law), because their own whims take precedence.

Posted by: Splunge at December 27, 2012 12:01 AM (2IW5Q)

412 First, liability. Trial lawyers and unions own the Democratic party. How often do women give birth conventionally these days?

I love the TV lawyer commercials where they essentially say:

"Did your child not turn out the way you expected them too? Lets sue the doctor!"

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:02 AM (Z5BDI)

413 400
Any time a supposed right-winger or conservative dismisses common fiscal
conservative concerns about taxes and regulations as right wing
"talking points" I think to myself -- Hey, this guy might a total
fucking fraud.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 26, 2012 11:57 PM (R+6Q+)

_______________
And when I hear Hannity talking points regurgitated I think to myself, a lot of people who claim to be conservative aren't critical thinkers.

Let me try a 4th time....I want low taxes. I want less govt intervention. BUT saying the fiscal cliff uncertainty is causing business paralysis is simply a stupid Hannity type talking point that has no basis in reality. Do you really not understand the difference between the two issues?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 12:02 AM (HDgX3)

414 I don't think he's a lefty dem moby though, more
likely well connected to some establishment Republicans trying to soften
us up for the coming sellout



Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:01 AM (wwsoB)

___________________
You got me. I'm Jon Boehner's right hand man.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 27, 2012 12:03 AM (HDgX3)

415 Hello, Horde.

Soulmates? I used to believe in them...until the woman I thought was The One went nuts, put me into five-figure debt then ran away with some ^$(*) she met on the internet. I no longer believe there's One Twue Wuv for everyone. I'm still not entirely convinced there's one We Might Get Along If We Work At It for me. But I'm not bitter.

So, the 'ettes approve of beards? Hey, one thing I'm getting right! It's almost all white now, so you can barely see the Van Dyke I'm sporting...

http://is.gd/Qqi3Sz

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 27, 2012 12:03 AM (5J54Q)

416 409 386 Posted by: lou's a girl at December 26, 2012 11:43 PM (adaoe) Same MFer that asked Jordan Ghawi how his sister was doing? Umm, she was killed in Aurora asshole.
Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM (sqp6o)

Wow, so evil.
Posted by: lou's a girl at December 27, 2012 12:00 AM (adaoe)


Evil, and dumb as a box of bricks. Jordan handled himself well when the chunky F'er with a ham for a neck started ask___ him about gun control.

Posted by: RWC at December 27, 2012 12:03 AM (sqp6o)

417 The MBM goes into hysterics demanding gun banning, the political hacks promise to do something about it, and they wonder why gun and ammo sales are skyrocketing?

When they bring the "we don't want to take your guns, just have 'reasonable' regulations" walkback, you know they realize they showed their cards too soon.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:05 AM (wwsoB)

418
No, you're just being stubborn.

I blame Bush.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 27, 2012 12:05 AM (Md8Uo)

419 My wife wants a .38 revolver with a ~3" barrel. Any recommendations?

It's mostly going to be used to smack semi wadcutters into paper.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:05 AM (Z5BDI)

420 But if you want to use sabots, a rifled slug barrel delivers much better results. I'm uncertain if the 535 has such an option.>>

I'd bet you can get a rifled barrel for a 535 but the point to a rifled sabot is that you don't need a rifled barrel for the spin . It's in the sabot round itself.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 12:06 AM (Y6HTt)

421 I'm Jon Boehner's right hand man.


Quite believable. Your natural enemy appears to be conservatives.

Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2012 12:06 AM (z9HTb)

422 At CTD:

"Mossberg 835, 12 Gauge Slug Barrel, 24" Rifled, Cantilever, Ported, Realtree Hardwoods
Our Low Price: $226.74"

The 835 is starting to look MUCH better ...

Posted by: Arbalest at December 27, 2012 12:07 AM (t8dlh)

423 Ah, the condescending prick jumps back in. I don't watch Hannity. No clue what he's saying.

But regulatory uncertainty is a huge and legitimate concern. Anyone who denies that is a fucking idiot -- no matter how condescendingly they dismiss it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 27, 2012 12:07 AM (R+6Q+)

424
You missed my point completely. I'll try again....
Companies
are moving to Asia because Asia is a cheaper place. It has nothing to
do with the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff. And you have proven my
point by saying this has been going on for as long as you've been alive.
And sure companies to well in Asia. But that's DESPITE a lot of
uncertainty and risks. I didn't run a company, but I worked for a bank
that loaned companies a lot of money. And my job was to analyze the
worthiness of these loans. Looking at the books was pretty much
worthless. The true value of a company was how well it was connected.
Bribes, kickbacks, payoffs...that's how it works. You think 35 vs 39%
taxes is a big worry? Try worrying if the son of the minster of such and
such that you just paid $250K is really going to come through for you
or not and on time. Will that building permit have all the ts crossed?
Or will there be another $250K needed. That my friend is uncertainty.
Not a fucking AMT patch.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:44 PM (HDgX3)

Holy shit, you don't think kickbacks, bribes and payoffs are done here? You don't think you are at the mercy of some gumhead up in city hall that got the job because daddy was in the state house or a judge?
Fuck it, I would rather worry about if I was going to get a building permit from some foreign prick than hoping the US one would actually get out of the car and actually count that we had the correct number of shrubs and trees around the building so that I could get the occupancy permit.
If you think our government isn't corrupt, you need to really look into it and actually deal with the government.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 12:07 AM (Zd/NW)

425 On coaching the kids - was an assistant coach for 8 years of t-ball through age 12 ball on the small field. We had very supportive parents who often expressed their appreciation for our time. His last year, I was standing in the first base coaching box giving my son a high five for getting on base, then talking to him about running on a grounder, waiting for my signal if the ball was in the air, etc., etc. Head coach was clapping and telling him, "Nice hit, good job, now stay alert out there." My son was trying to look as serious as a major leaguer in a playoff game, but with a huge grin he was trying to conceal. I remember the evening breeze blowing a littledirt around and thinking "Save this moment, it does not everget any better than this."

On Bork - less pleasant memories. I recall how stunned I was by the viciousness of Kennedy's opening attack against a decent man who happened to differ politically from him. But what really struck me was how none of the MSM (they didn't have the nickname back then) even batted an eye about the rhetoric and vitriol. Kennedy's attack was pretty much portrayed in the media as speaking truth to power; basicallya tough, blunt spoken Senator's speaking up for the little guy against the malignant forces of the Reagan administration. Sounds melodramatic, but sometimes I think that was really when we began to lose a part of our country's soul.

Posted by: RM at December 27, 2012 12:08 AM (ixDYs)

426 Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:05 AM (Z5BDI)

If she's worth the money, SandW 686.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 27, 2012 12:08 AM (svK4p)

427 I love the York Peppermint Patty girl in the commercial

She looks like a ginger Jodie Foster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d4eIqdRwiE

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:08 AM (wwsoB)

428 That crime study was used to "prove" that legalized abortion was responsible for lowering crime.

They conveniently left out the following factors:

1. That is when people started to own cell phones
2. That is when people started to own camcorders
3. War on drugs

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 27, 2012 12:09 AM (SkyIE)

429
Losing your son had to be heartbreaking. I think if I lost one of my sons it would kill me. God be with you, He has not forgotten you.
And that should remind the rest of us to be a lot more damn funny here. We have standards to keep and people are depending on us to generate some big yucks.


Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 26, 2012 11:03 PM (Md8Uo)

And I have not forgotten him. His pix are throughout the house. It hurts my heart every time I see his pic walking through the house. But wife won that battle. I'm glad she did.

Posted by: olddog at December 27, 2012 12:09 AM (MuE6W)

430
A three inch barrel is probably too short to hit anything reliably. I could be wrong about that, but I doubt it, especially in the hands of a woman who probably does not have as strong a grip as a man typically does. Not trying to be critical of your wife at all, just the norms of such a discussion. Your wife could have a stronger grip than I do, which would make all of the above total bullshit.

Well, it is the ONT.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at December 27, 2012 12:09 AM (Md8Uo)

431 375
For those just casually watching this, it cost a guy

$120.55 for his wife to have a baby in a hospital, with a four-day

stay, all in.....in 1963, when you had to write a check for it. Now it's

an employee benefit, or has to be done by an emergency room under

EMTALA, or is mucked with by the Feds.....and costs much, much, much

more than the $908.95 2012 dollars that 1963 would have indicated.




Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 11:41 PM (kaalw)

____________
And this has to do with the fiscal cliff how exactly?


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (HDgX3)


Back up through the thread. You had questioned whether doctors were less than saints having a higher calling (@342) because another commenter said you must be insulated from real business sense (i.e. heavily regulated @330) because your previous comment echoed Joe Walsh's "I have accountants pay for it all" sense of effective management (@315).

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 12:12 AM (kaalw)

432 I await our lecture on how we're getting unnecessarily hysterical over proposed gun laws, as "they're only proposing reasonable restrictions that won't affect your guns" from our Superior Intellect here on the ONT

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:12 AM (wwsoB)

433 419
My wife wants a .38 revolver with a ~3" barrel. Any recommendations?



It's mostly going to be used to smack semi wadcutters into paper.


A better revolver that doesn't fit her hand is worse than a lesser one that does. Try things out, see what fits, see what points naturally for her.

Posted by: Splunge at December 27, 2012 12:12 AM (2IW5Q)

434 If she's worth the money, SandW 686.

She's worth the money. It seems the the 3" barrel options is available in .357m only which is OK.

Gonna start reloading again so maybe light .357 rounds rather than 38spc. She can't handle a full
.357 round.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:13 AM (Z5BDI)

435 That crime study was used to "prove" that legalized abortion was responsible for lowering crime.

They conveniently left out the following factors:>>

They would paid what a low end criminal could expect to make to baby mamas thus eliminating the need to go out and commit crimes.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 12:13 AM (Y6HTt)

436 385
Yeah, pretty clear what Mr. Moo Moo lacks in actual knowledge he makes up for in condescension.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe

Which would be a first on this blog ...

Maybe we should all greet jimi ray once again.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 11:51 PM (KDq5l)


Yeah, funny how he evaporated.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 12:14 AM (kaalw)

437 When they bring the "we don't want to take your guns, just have 'reasonable' regulations" walkback, you know they realize they showed their cards too soon.
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:05 AM (wwsoB)

Dooooh, love this! But fuck em, no you dont get anything, ala obama!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 27, 2012 12:14 AM (adaoe)

438 There is also the option of .327 Federal Mag in the smaller framed revolvers

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at December 27, 2012 12:16 AM (/7Xis)

439 203
Come on Romeo13, if you've got a business that's clearing $250K profit
and you're paralyzed over a tax rate of 35 or 39.6%, you've got bigger
problems than the fiscal cliff. For someone earning $500K **PROFIT**
that's a tax increase of $11,500. Are you seriously telling me someone
earning $500K is "paralyzed" over a tax increase of $11,500?



Wait a sec , moo----- that's not all that's going to happen in 2013. There are all the other taxes, from phase-in of ObamaCare mandates to increases in taxes on dividends and sale of real property, to possible new energy taxes and stringent EPA standards, and higher payroll taxes (half borne by the employer) that are all effectively additional costs, that go into small businesses being paralyzed.

You also blithely assume that the market for the products and services offered by small businesses remains unaffected by all these new taxes and regs. Suppose you're a b-to-b seller, and your customers' profit margins decline? What happens to your business when they can't afford to buy your stuff in the amounts they did previously: do you thrive, remain static, or decline?




Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 27, 2012 12:16 AM (HVtRc)

440 Gonna start reloading again so maybe light .357 rounds rather than 38spc. She can't handle a full
.357 round.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:13 AM (Z5BDI)




HWP, you can totally use 38spc in the .357. Love love love my husband's 686 !

Posted by: Steck at December 27, 2012 12:16 AM (RL7U1)

441
Captain Whitebread at December 27, 2012 12:03 AM

Yes there is somebody for you. It took me 25yrs to find her but she was well worth looking for. Went through a lot of test drives but still worth it. Love the shit out of her. I do have the tendency to piss her off every now and then. Yes 'ettes it was my fault.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 27, 2012 12:18 AM (+9AX9)

442 A better revolver that doesn't fit her hand is worse than a lesser one that does. Try things out, see what fits, see what points naturally for her

The most important point indeed.

We need to rent some at the range.

She was an excellent combat shooter in the past. Which is why I respect her opinion (and never piss her off).

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:19 AM (Z5BDI)

443 'sup morons? I'm dragging out Christmas for one more day, now that the last child has made their appearance.

Posted by: zeera at December 27, 2012 12:19 AM (3dXwx)

444 Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:13 AM (Z5BDI)

You can fire .38's in it, up to +P.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 27, 2012 12:20 AM (svK4p)

445 435 They would paid what a low end criminal could expect to make to baby
mamas thus eliminating the need to go out and commit crimes.>>

Holy crap did I Fuck up that sentence. It should say. Now that they dole out what a low end criminal makes to baby mamas criminals don't need to go out and do as many crimes.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 12:20 AM (Y6HTt)

446 You think 35 vs 39%
taxes is a big worry? Try worrying if the son of the minster of such and
such that you just paid $250K is really going to come through for you
or not and on time. Will that building permit have all the ts crossed?
Or will there be another $250K needed. That my friend is uncertainty.
Not a fucking AMT patch.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:44 PM (HDgX3)

With all do respect, this not the primary worry of small business owners, although taking our money to give to leftist causes is an abomination. we are more worried about Leftists removing contract-law precedent.

Posted by: MidwesternSceptic at December 27, 2012 12:21 AM (cxl8k)

447 Speaking of kids in sports - took my 7 yr old kid to a soccer game once. Luckily she lost interest after the one time. Sat in the stands listing to pretty much the rest of the parents screaming (their support?) non stop from the sidelines. I'm thinking - do I join in on the mindless screaming, or just watch and have them think I don't care? Couldn't think of anything to scream so I just sat there witnessing the bizarre situation.

Posted by: Whatev at December 27, 2012 12:21 AM (2t6Gz)

448 We seem to have scared moomoo away.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 12:23 AM (kaalw)

449 419 The Hobo ....

"My wife wants a .38 revolver with a ~3" barrel. Any recommendations?

It's mostly going to be used to smack semi wadcutters into paper.
"


Ruger and S&W are good choices. The Ruger GP-100 (6 shot) and SP-101 (5 shot) .357s will handle .38 SWC easily. S&W costs a bit more. The top-end Taurus models seem good. I hear bad things about the rest. Ask around.

Splunge is quite correct: check to see what fits her hand. After-market grips are available ($13-$50), but compared to the cost of a revolver, they might be a good choice, rather than buy a less desirable model or fit.

I'm not sold on any firearm with plastic parts (other than grips & sights). Plastics out-gas, and in 30 years (this might make a difference), the part might be too brittle to use.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 27, 2012 12:23 AM (t8dlh)

450 MSNBC....all ills are the Republicans fault.

Thankfully there is myself and two others watching.



Ps - don't give me a big tin of 'Almomd Roca.'. I will eat it all.

Posted by: RWC at December 27, 2012 12:23 AM (sqp6o)

451 Night 'rons and 'ronettes...had a 7 hour drive today and gotta work tomorrow.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 27, 2012 12:25 AM (svK4p)

452 So the convo has drifted to my next question. A good carry weapon. My 40 just aint gonna do it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 12:25 AM (IvVLN)

453 So the convo has drifted to my next question. A good carry weapon. My 40 just aint gonna do it.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 12:25 AM (IvVLN)

are you willing to dress around the gun?


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 27, 2012 12:26 AM (jfSqj)

454 Since moomoo's fled, how 'bout I rake up something else that's inconvenient for progs -- http://tinyurl.com/c3om8p5

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 12:26 AM (kaalw)

455 So the convo has drifted to my next question. A good carry weapon. My 40 just aint gonna do it.>>

A good cheap carry weapon is a Makarov.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 12:27 AM (Y6HTt)

456 We seem to have scared moomoo away.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 12:23 AM (kaalwFacts are tough medicine. Unfortunately, self-interest overides common sense.

Posted by: MidwesterbSceptic at December 27, 2012 12:27 AM (cxl8k)

457 OK, I've been unclear.

She shot very well with some model of Ruger that she really didn't like.

Her hands are much weaker now.

She insists on it being a centerfire revolver.

Perhaps a 32 spc might be better but she's kinda
stubborn.

I really was looking more for suggestions on what mfg/models to stay away from. Money is always and issue but not worth buying crap.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:29 AM (Z5BDI)

458 452 BCochran1981

"So the convo has drifted to my next question. A good carry weapon. My 40 just aint gonna do it."


Something is obviously wrong. The next step up is an AR-15 and 15 fully-loaded mags, a Camelbak and lots of body armor.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 27, 2012 12:30 AM (t8dlh)

459 In case you didn't see it earlier today, the Brits don't want Piers Morgan back. Jeremy Clarkson was particularly vocal about it;

http://tinyurl.com/c2osxs5

Americans. It took us 40 years to get rid of Piers Morgan. Pleasse don't send him back.—
Jeremy Clarkson (@JeremyClarkson) December 24, 2012

Americans. Was the second amendment not introduced to protect you from the tyranny of the British? Piers Morgan in other words.—
Jeremy Clarkson (@JeremyClarkson) December 24, 2012


Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:31 AM (wwsoB)

460 Ok. 18 year old dog ( thanks for the prayers and well wishes from when i thought she was done) just stole candy out of my mouth.

She's a crafty little shit.

Posted by: RWC at December 27, 2012 12:32 AM (sqp6o)

461 ABC News reporter wants to limit "the most powerful weapons"

http://tinyurl.com/dyuwa3a


Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 27, 2012 12:32 AM (rzTDZ)

462 Something is obviously wrong. The next step up is an AR-15 and 15 fully-loaded mags, a Camelbak and lots of body armor.>>

And a step up from that is a Barret 50 semi and from that a mini gun...

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 12:33 AM (Y6HTt)

463 And a step up from that is a Barret 50 semi and from that a mini gun...

... on a 4x4

Posted by: Arbalest at December 27, 2012 12:34 AM (t8dlh)

464 She insists on it being a centerfire revolver.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:29 AM (Z5BDI

Why?

Posted by: RWC at December 27, 2012 12:34 AM (sqp6o)

465 Something is obviously wrong. The next step up is an AR-15 and 15 fully-loaded mags, a Camelbak and lots of body armor.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 27, 2012 12:30 AM (t8dlh)



Lol.


I bought the 40 awhile back as a home defense gun. Talked to the wife, we both pay attention to what's going on, she said to me "if we got the money, get what you think we might need or might not be available."

Shotgun is next on list because it's a versatile and powerful home defense weapon. Now it's on to carry.

After CT, I started taking a closer look at some things that had bothered me in the past. My church for example. On any given Sunday, there are around 300 people sitting fairly bunched together with their backs to the door. I've determined that there *might* be one person carrying during service. That's unacceptable.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 12:34 AM (IvVLN)

466 Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll have more questions for sure.

This place is great.

Except for the whole spider clown thing (thanks AtC for the new nightmare fodder).

Night all.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:34 AM (Z5BDI)

467 447
Speaking of kids in sports - took my 7 yr old kid to a soccer game once.
Luckily she lost interest after the one time. Sat in the stands listing
to pretty much the rest of the parents screaming (their support?) non
stop from the sidelines. I'm thinking - do I join in on the mindless
screaming, or just watch and have them think I don't care? Couldn't
think of anything to scream so I just sat there witnessing the bizarre
situation.

Posted by: Whatev at December 27, 2012 12:21 AM (2t6Gz)

I used to hate the parents at the game when I was playing. My parents didn't know much about sports, but they went and cheered and cheered appropriately. Other parents, holy shit. They would bitch and complain because their little snowflake was on the bench towards the end of a tied game. They just didn't believe that their snowflake wasn't the next Jerry West, Jim Brown, or Johnny Bench. So the ones out there catch shit from the parents of their friends because they didn't get the game winning hit, make the last second shot, or score the game winning touchdown. They were not in the game because the ones in the game had done that all game long and all season long and not sitting in the field chasing butterflies when they were playing.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 12:35 AM (Zd/NW)

468 I find it funny that Mr. Moo Moo treated Obama regime uncertainty as a constant, as if the next 4 years of Obama can simply be extrapolated from the last 4 years of Obama.

It's an uncertain uncertainty, that's why no sane nation would have elected a SCOAMF.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 27, 2012 12:36 AM (kLZ5n)

469 Seriously, a .40 carried with 4-6 extra mags is a lot of mojo.

Perhaps adding another carry gun is in order, maybe 2 cans of pepper spray and a stun gun.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 27, 2012 12:36 AM (t8dlh)

470 Most Americans want to be Denny Crane

Most elitists want Americans to be Jerry Espensen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KvO-8IvoCI

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:36 AM (wwsoB)

471 Posted by: harleycowboy at December 27, 2012 12:18 AM (+9AX9)


Great! I'm happy for you.

Where I lean these days is that if there's more than One Twue Wuv out there...there are potentially many people with which a person may be romantically compatible. But you have to work at it. Expecting the Perfect Mate to appear and make everything wonderful forever is just magical thinking.

As for me...I don't think "SWM, middle-aged, thinning hair, expanding wasteline, comic book and sci-fi geek, introverted (unless at karaoke), totally average goober" is going to get me any takers. But I'm OK with that 98 percent of the time.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 27, 2012 12:37 AM (5J54Q)

472 Yeah, funny how he evaporated.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 12:14 AM (kaalw)



What I witnessed of the meltdown was hilarious.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 27, 2012 12:38 AM (kLZ5n)

473 She insists on it being a centerfire revolver.
Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:29 AM (Z5BDI

Why?Posted by: RWC at December 27, 2012 12:34 AM (sqp6o)>>

What other than 22 cal is rimfire now? that seems to be a non limiting factor in a pistol purchase.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 12:39 AM (Y6HTt)

474 She insists on it being a centerfire revolver.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:29 AM (Z5BDI

Why?
Posted by: RWC at December 27, 2012 12:34 AM (sqp6o)

Just likes them. She'd rather use speed loaders than magazines.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:39 AM (Z5BDI)

475 And this has to do with the fiscal cliff how exactly?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 11:49 PM (HDgX3)You are being given some free education. Just swallow your pride and accept it. M

Posted by: MidwesterbSceptic at December 27, 2012 12:40 AM (cxl8k)

476 I'd like a 44 spc. Perhaps a custom load ~230gr/900fps.

Maybe a 44m and just shoot light loads.

Time for bed, I'm starting to ramble along......

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 12:43 AM (Z5BDI)

477 Someone needed to tell JEF "TANSTAAFL" and then just walk out. Unfortunately that would require a full set of testicles, something that could apparently not be found between the two Republicans in the room.

Evening roonz and roonettez! Lunch break, last day of the 4 day stretch.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2012 12:43 AM (xa1/W)

478 I do believe in soul mates, but only because I have mine. New Year's Eve will be 15 years of wedded bliss. We do not fight--we disagree, but we don't fight. We accommodate one another, appreciate one another, and we don't let stupid things get in the way. Once in a while he brings me a rose or two, I make him a really great beef and potatoes dinner, and we sneak off upstairs after the boy is asleep. In short, we love on another madly and wouldn't dream of parting.


Oh, yeah, we both do stupid things, and we both acknowledge that to one another. I'm thinking that might be the reason we are still together.

Posted by: tcn at December 27, 2012 12:43 AM (VLG62)

479 The best part is the continual amazement I see when people discover for themselves what I've been telling them for the last 6 weeks. If you think ammo is expensive or hard to get now just wait until next week. It will never be cheaper than it is right now. There's no .223 in bulk in the whole country. Big 5 has ammo at Big 5 prices. I do the research so you won't have to. .45 is still available. I'll buy 5k rounds at least as soon as I have the $$$. On top of prior purchases. Do likewise. Exile machine still has some mags. Get some. Folks what does it tell you when no manufacturer in the country is taking orders any more?

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 12:45 AM (XDC0v)

480 In case you didn't see it earlier today, the Brits
don't want Piers Morgan back. Jeremy Clarkson was particularly vocal
about it;



Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:31 AM

Maybe we could trade him for Captain Slow. Moorgoon wouldn't make it through the first dress rehearsal.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 27, 2012 12:46 AM (rzTDZ)

481 Oh, I get in that barrel length argument a lot. Everybody wants a snubby now. I think they're Teh Ghey. But some ballistician figured out that 1 - 3/4" imparts as much spin to a bullet as a 4 - 1/2', so, argument over, unless you're interested in looking at the sights (!), or balance in the hand, or the upward snap of the recoil.

I like the 686 -- seven shot revolvers win a lot of gunfights! -- but it is a little "meaty." Great for .357, maybe just a tad more mass than is really necessary for .38. My favorite revolver is my grandfather's Model of 1899 (the other model called a Military ampersand Police). They were later known as a Model 12. It's point-and-squirt. Know how in Dick Tracy movies cops would shoot like a kid using his finger, bang-bang-bang? With this one, you can do that and get hits.

They are often available as used police or agency guns (some of them from second owner, now) and don't wear out easily. Double action pull is substantial but uniform and predictable, unlike many modern DA's. Firing target-style, all are capable of respectable groups at 50 feet.

The Colt Python is also a very good pistol, with enough mass to handle .357 but not overweight. I have not priced one for a while; they tend to be a little overpriced because they have such a sexy name and history. Worth checking; I doubt you could lose money on one.

Biggest problem with revolver frame size is the gap behind the trigger guard where the bird-finger must rest. If the butt is a little small, or the action a little snappy, a painful first impact will occur there with every shot. I can handle heavy but simple recoil, and can learn to manage the barrel rise of real big rounds, but I resent it when a pistol bites me. I can't use the Smith mod65, or the cute light little Taurus products. Small frames are often recommended for women, with the assumption of small hands, but the result is too often a nasty little piece that is unpleasant to shoot.

Posted by: comatus at December 27, 2012 12:46 AM (qaVK+)

482 About sports and the idiot parents in the stands--I have come to understand that mom's don't get to interact with kids during sports. You get to watch, but not interact. Dads can volunteer on the field, but so far the closest I dare get is running the clock at the hockey games.


Some of the men are assholes, but most of the men seem to shun those assholes, and they know it. So far, so good.

Posted by: tcn at December 27, 2012 12:47 AM (VLG62)

483 Man, I am in the mood for a greasy pastrami from The Hat .. can't get it where I am at now. fuck.

Posted by: grease monkey at December 27, 2012 12:47 AM (VSWPU)

484 443 Women usually think that they want a smaller gun, but they have much more recoil. Quit hanging out with the jackasses around here and take her to the range. You can either act deliberately and make it a priority now or be left out. Your choice, and your responsibility.

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 12:47 AM (XDC0v)

485 Boy am I glad I made a big ammo buy back in August. Now I worry that I wasn't quite as greedy/forward thinking as I should have been.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 27, 2012 12:49 AM (XkotV)

486 Maybe we could trade him for Captain Slow. Moorgoon wouldn't make it through the first dress rehearsal.


Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 27, 2012 12:46 AM

Clarkson said once; "Certainly we'd have Piers Morgan on the show to drive on our track. I'd see to it that he got a car with no brakes"

Morgan keeps digging that no one in America even knows who Clarkson is. I think that's his Pauline Kael moment


Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:50 AM (wwsoB)

487 The best part is the continual amazement I see when people discover for
themselves what I've been telling them for the last 6 weeks. If you
think ammo is expensive or hard to get now just wait until next week.>>

Oddly enough I figured that out with the first assault weapons ban. My old neighbor never looked at me the same after he signed for my UPS delivery of 6000 rounds. (me and my brother ordered together)

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 12:50 AM (Y6HTt)

488 485 Boy am I glad I made a big ammo buy back in August. Now I worry that I wasn't quite as greedy/forward thinking as I should have been.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 27, 2012 12:49 AM (XkotV)




See? Shoulda listened to Dave.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 12:51 AM (IvVLN)

489 438 .327 mag is the very definition of a boutique round. If times are gonna get hard do you buy a zebra?

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 12:51 AM (XDC0v)

490 If times are gonna get hard do you buy a zebra?

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 12:51 AM (XDC0v)




I do if I want to distract a lion.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 12:53 AM (IvVLN)

491 Any King Taco's out in South Central ?

Posted by: grease monkey at December 27, 2012 12:54 AM (VSWPU)

492 481 You're completely disregarding velocity, the most important part of F=mvsquared. That's what barrel length is all about

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 12:54 AM (XDC0v)

493
There are tens of thousands of used SandW .38's available used for like $300. Great gunjs. try cdnn

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 12:56 AM (XDC0v)

494 Oh, I get in that barrel length argument a lot. Everybody wants a snubby
now. I think they're Teh Ghey. But some ballistician figured out that 1
- 3/4" imparts as much spin to a bullet as a 4 - 1/2', so, argument
over, unless you're interested in looking at the sights (!), or balance
in the hand, or the upward snap of the recoil.>>

Not a gun expert but isn't part of the reason for a longer barrel hitting power? Snub nose good for up close and 6 inch plus for reaching out a little.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 12:57 AM (Y6HTt)

495 485 Nope. Go out and buy some more. May be out next week.

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 12:58 AM (XDC0v)

496 OK, I'm out

tomorrow night. mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2012 12:58 AM (JMmQ9)

497 Gotta watch out for King Tacos. Very dependent on which one you go to.

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 12:59 AM (XDC0v)

498 I'm out too. Listen to daVE folks. He's done the research, so you don't have to.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 01:00 AM (IvVLN)

499 DAve: my shipment of FAL mags finally arrived today. Unfortunately, the vendor swapped one of them out with a Mini-14 mag. Not sure what to do about it since they're sold out of the mags I actually can use. I did go ahead an order a .40 pistol today. I should probably go ahead and stock up on ammo for that especially since there's a 9mm/.40 price inversion going on right now.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 27, 2012 01:00 AM (T7gPe)

500 King Taco... OG . Third and Ford.. East L. A.

Posted by: grease monkey at December 27, 2012 01:00 AM (VSWPU)

501 On the Borking of Bork: I was still in high school and admittedly was not paying attention to politics in the least. I remember that his nomination was making news but didn't realize just how bad Kennedy and the libtards had savaged the man. Did Bork, Reagan, or anyone else rise up and denounce Kennedy in any meaningful way? Again, not knowing the whole story or the circumstances, and also knowing that I'm way too thin-skinned to be a politician, if I were Bork, I would have ripped old Teddy a new one on the Senate floor, and anywhere else that I could have. If I'm going down anyway....

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 27, 2012 01:00 AM (yJYwC)

502 Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:50 AM

The funniest "star in a reasonably priced car" had to have been David Soul when he ripped the shifter out of both of their cars.

http://tinyurl.com/c3xdf7h


But PM in a car with no brakes (and no accelerator spring) would be better.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 27, 2012 01:01 AM (rzTDZ)

503 DAve, what was that ammo site you were recommending?

Posted by: Steck at December 27, 2012 01:02 AM (RL7U1)

504 I am a patient and long-winded proponent of longer barrels. I disregard nothing. I relate the arguments of several flashy on-line pimps so you won't fall for it.

Snub nose good for not much really, and I'd be ashamed to be seen with one. Four to 4- 1/2" is about ideal for carrying, but yes 6-inch for a target pistol is definitely better. Beyond that, unless you're hunting deer, you're getting into the Buntline stuff and a lot of "compensator" jokes.

Posted by: comatus at December 27, 2012 01:02 AM (qaVK+)

505 491 King Taco 1104 South Hoover

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:02 AM (XDC0v)

506 499 Very sorry to hear that. Send 'em back or hold and sell you'll make more $$$ Whatever caliber you have you better buy what you can if it isn't panic priced... yet

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:03 AM (XDC0v)

507 Good night y'all .. DAve ..you sure know your guns and King Tacos.

Posted by: grease monkey at December 27, 2012 01:03 AM (VSWPU)

508 500 One of the east l.a. king tacos sucks. cesar chavez? the other one is better

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:05 AM (XDC0v)

509 503 Goddammit I'm trying to keep them a secret now... freedom munitions and well regulated militia

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:06 AM (XDC0v)

510 DAve: my shipment of FAL mags finally arrived today. Unfortunately, the
vendor swapped one of them out with a Mini-14 mag. Not sure what to do
about it since they're sold out of the mags I actually can use.>>

The obvious answer is buy a mini 14 duh!

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 01:06 AM (Y6HTt)

511 502
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 12:50 AM

The funniest "star in a reasonably priced car" had to have been David Soul when he ripped the shifter out of both of their cars.

http://tinyurl.com/c3xdf7h


But PM in a car with no brakes (and no accelerator spring) would be better.


Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 27, 2012 01:01 AM

Throw in a leaking fuel line and a jammed door latch and it would be spectacular

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 01:06 AM (wwsoB)

512 504 Every inch of barrel on an AR is good for about 50 fps. That's important

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:08 AM (XDC0v)

513 510 hell yeah that's even better

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:08 AM (XDC0v)

514 Headed to bed. Goodnight, Horde. Keep your powder dry.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 27, 2012 01:09 AM (5J54Q)

515 My church for example. On any given Sunday, there are around 300 people sitting fairly bunched together with their backs to the door. I've determined that there *might* be one person carrying during service. That's unacceptable.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 27, 2012 12:34 AM (IvVLN)


I carry in church, it is sorta easy, just dress around the gun

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 27, 2012 01:09 AM (jfSqj)

516 DAve, I'm looking for .223, well-regulated militia doesn't seem to have any ... suggestions?

Posted by: Steck at December 27, 2012 01:11 AM (RL7U1)

517 Watching Amish Mafia right now, and up on the screen pops a tweet - 'I'm fascinated with this #amishmafia show. I just shut all my lights off and lit a candle.

Because that's what the Amish do, they light a candle while watching TV and tweeting.

Posted by: Whatev at December 27, 2012 01:11 AM (2t6Gz)

518 I carry in church, it is sorta easy, just dress around the gun

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 27, 2012 01:09 AM (jfSqj)

Hey Midnite madness rons. We have about 100 at our services 3 open carry and I know of at least 1 that Conceals, me.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 01:14 AM (l86i3)

519 501
On the Borking of Bork: I was still in high school and admittedly was
not paying attention to politics in the least. I remember that his
nomination was making news but didn't realize just how bad Kennedy and
the libtards had savaged the man. Did Bork, Reagan, or anyone else rise
up and denounce Kennedy in any meaningful way? Again, not knowing the
whole story or the circumstances, and also knowing that I'm way too
thin-skinned to be a politician, if I were Bork, I would have ripped old
Teddy a new one on the Senate floor, and anywhere else that I could
have. If I'm going down anyway....


Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 27, 2012 01:00 AM (yJYwC)

Nope, no one came to his defense, but back then, something like this had not happened. Supreme Court justices were somewhat routinely confirmed, but all the now usual suspects came out of the woodwork to savage him.

He didn't go after Kennedy and Biden because he still appeared to be on his way to confirmation, but then the leftist GOPers decided that he wasn't going to do, so they scuttled his nomination.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 01:14 AM (Zd/NW)

520 Django Unchained was pretty good. If you're a fan of classic westerns or a fan of Tarantino, it's worth seeing. Snappy banter, stylized over-the-top gore, and a kick-ass soundtrack, this is the best Tarantino in a long time and my favorite film of 2012.

Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 01:17 AM (wGDey)

521 Boehner's main legacy is that he allowed conservatives and Republicans to take the blame for Obama's economy.

What a legacy. I'm sure the morning news shows will love him when he retires.

If he had something other than ME On TV in mind, here's what he should have done.

Offered a plan with 10 percent cut in all taxes, across the board. 10 percent reduction in government spending, every department. 10 percent reduction in welfare payments.

When Obama rejected that, offer the same plan, with 15 percent in each place.

But no, he wanted to be loved on TV. So in 2014, we get to hear over and over and over how Conservatives and Republicans and Tea Party members RAISED your taxes, and how Obama and the Democrats fought for your rights.

And you know what? It'll work. Democrats will win back the house, keep the senate, and go on blaming Bush. Because why change a formula that works.

I'm gonna buy ammo. And hey, what's a good rifle?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 27, 2012 01:21 AM (xjpRj)

522 "Keep going to the evil Nazi well guys(or the evil white man ala Django)."

I think it's safe to say Steevy hasn't seen the movie. The moral compass is a white German. The villain is an elderly, crippled slave. That's one of the delightfully subversive things about Django Unchained; it chews up your expectations and spits them in your face.

Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 01:23 AM (wGDey)

523 I'm gonna buy ammo. And hey, what's a good rifle?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 27, 2012 01:21 AM (xjpRj)



what do you want to do with it?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 27, 2012 01:23 AM (ND9u8)

524 I noticed the State Media reports on holiday sales were up 0.7%. They were projected to be up 3% this year. So what happened? Why were sales so low? Well it seems there are a lot reasons but not one damn reason was Obama's economy. I guess people should still be able to buy as much as they want to with an unemployment check. F*ck them all.

Posted by: Case at December 27, 2012 01:23 AM (FKGw9)

525 520
Django Unchained was pretty good. If you're a fan of classic westerns or
a fan of Tarantino, it's worth seeing. Snappy banter, stylized
over-the-top gore, and a kick-ass soundtrack, this is the best Tarantino
in a long time and my favorite film of 2012.

Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 01:17 AM

Knowing that you like Django and Tarantino confirms my worst assumptions about you.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 01:24 AM (wwsoB)

526
I'm gonna buy ammo. And hey, what's a good rifle?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 27, 2012 01:21 AM (xjpRj)


The one you are comfortable with. Ammo? Stay standard and don'y get sucked in to anything crazy and custom. 5.56 or 7.62.

What is you battlefield, where will you be operating? You shoot a rifle in a neighborhood it will go through two or three houses before it stops. Many things to contemplate. Leave the Hi Tech shit alone until you and good with iron sights.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 01:27 AM (l86i3)

527 I'm gonna buy ammo. And hey, what's a good rifle?>>

If you have dough there are tons of great rifles. On the cheap a MAS 49/56 is a "good" rifle or any Enfield or Mauser will do for a bolt.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 01:27 AM (Y6HTt)

528 Knowing that you like Django and Tarantino confirms my worst assumptions about you.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 01:24 AM (wwsoB)

Not smart enough to be a troll, I'm thinkin a straight up asshole. I immediatly switched to ignore.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 01:29 AM (l86i3)

529 Thank you MrCaniac.

If the Bork nomination ushered in the so-called modern era of liberal aggresiveness, it looks like it also ushered in the era of Republican skittishness (for lack of a better term).

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 27, 2012 01:32 AM (yJYwC)

530 506: Yeah, I was planned on hanging onto it and re-selling assuming that won't make me a federal felon in the near future.

510: Heh, good idea! Now, if only I could find one in stock... Incidentally, during my initial evil black gun purchase evaluation period, I was seriously considering a Mini-14. But, I eventually went with a middy AR and I think I made the correct decision. Fast forward to tonight: I ordered an HK USP 40 on impulse that was more expensive than either of them.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 27, 2012 01:33 AM (T7gPe)

531 On the cheap a MAS 49/56 is a "good" rifle or any Enfield or Mauser will do for a bolt.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 01:27 AM (Y6HTt)
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SKS for a cheap semi

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 01:35 AM (BgIBZ)

532 If the Bork nomination ushered in the so-called modern era of liberal aggresiveness, it looks like it also ushered in the era of Republican skittishness (for lack of a better term).
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 27, 2012 01:32 AM (yJYwC)

See when I look at that whole situation I see a division of three partys. There is your old school Dem, think Kennedy, Your conservatives, think tea party, and the back room secret squirrel crap of the progressives that inhabit both parties. The progressives set the agenda with or without the presidents blessing. This is why we have no budget. But I think you are on to something. Bork was the first in your face salvo.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 01:36 AM (l86i3)

533 516 Big 5 has some at Big 5 prices. None in bulk anywhere in the country. My best suggestion is 1) you can visit your local wallyworld or sporting goods store every 4 hours just in case some shows up for an hour or two and 2) next time move on my suggestions when I first make 'em. Right now I'd suggest you forget about .223 and get the other calibers you can use. No point in wasting your time. you need to get what you can get while you can still get it.

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:37 AM (XDC0v)

534 No MAS. It is a French rifle. It is greasy, and smells of cheese and failure. Besides, try and find 7.5 French at the local hardware store or WoeMart. You won't.



Posted by: Lefty Kowalski at December 27, 2012 01:37 AM (qR+xF)

535 527 I'm gonna buy ammo. And hey, what's a good rifle?

I'm pumped about a new Marlin 39A I'm ordering. I've always wanted one but it's hard to justify the price. It's a great rifle, but not a good one for killing a bunch of people. As soon as I get it, I'm going to take a long walk, shooting all the way.

Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 01:37 AM (wGDey)

536 SKS for a cheap semi>>

You are very right since the MAS I have had to be re-chambered to .308 and 7.62 x .39 is a much easier round to get than the original MAS round.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 01:39 AM (Y6HTt)

537 520 Django Unchained was pretty good. If you're a fan of classic westerns or a fan of Tarantino, it's worth seeing.
Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 01:17 AM (wGDey)
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If you like Sergio Leone's westerns you should check out The Proposition, if you haven't already.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 01:39 AM (BgIBZ)

538 Good night rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 27, 2012 01:40 AM (l86i3)

539 "If you like Sergio Leone's westerns you should check out The Proposition, if you haven't already."

I am and I have. The Proposition was one of the best westerns of recent years.

Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 01:41 AM (wGDey)

540 If they quit allowing foreign surp ammo in what are you gonna feed your sks's and Mausers with? They already stopped the Garands and M1 carbines... I do not believe that 30-30's will ever be banned, tho they have some ammo and other issues. I would get pretty much any .22lr and after that there's hardly anything left and you should not expect to have the luxury of choice. No boutique calibers.

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:42 AM (XDC0v)

541 You are very right since the MAS I have had to be re-chambered to .308 and 7.62 x .39 is a much easier round to get than the original MAS round.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 01:39 AM (Y6HTt)
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Oh yeah, 7.62x39 is dirt cheap and the SKS is good for me on silhouette targets out to 200 (my range max) with aperture sights (I like these http://preview.tinyurl.com/6b45yet)

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 01:43 AM (BgIBZ)

542
If the Bork nomination ushered in the so-called
modern era of liberal aggresiveness, it looks like it also ushered in
the era of Republican skittishness (for lack of a better term).


Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 27, 2012 01:32 AM (yJYwC)

When the ones that voted against Bork were Spector, Chafee Sr, Packwood, Stafford, Warner, and Weicker, you see the Republicans that the media loves.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 01:43 AM (Zd/NW)

543 525


Knowing that you like Django and Tarantino confirms my worst assumptions about you.



Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2012 01:24 AM (wwsoB)

Aww, c'mon. I've no interest in seeing Django (no matter how much it would piss off Spike Lee doing so) but "Reservior Dogs" is excellent. Tarantino is like Kevin Smith in that I like their initial movies (see: "Clerks") but they rapidly become uninteresting afterward.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 27, 2012 01:44 AM (T7gPe)

544 540 If they quit allowing foreign surp ammo in what are you gonna feed your sks's and Mausers with?
Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:42 AM (XDC0v)
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With the 7.62x39 US companies produce to take advantage of massive domestic demand.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 01:45 AM (BgIBZ)

545 You can still get some boltaction .223, .308, 30-'06. Howa and savage are fine. Get something by this weekend.

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:45 AM (XDC0v)

546 Aww, c'mon. I've no interest in seeing Django (no matter how much it would piss off Spike Lee doing so) but "Reservior Dogs" is excellent. Tarantino is like Kevin Smith in that I like their initial movies (see: "Clerks") but they rapidly become uninteresting afterward.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 27, 2012 01:44 AM (T7gPe)
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Don't forget True Romance! Oldman was awesome in that one. Heard Brian Dennehy received a few nominations for his role as well.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 01:46 AM (BgIBZ)

547 Damnit
I just got to tell my wife and best friend that our very close family friend is a registered sex offender

I feel like throwing up

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 27, 2012 01:48 AM (SMP3h)

548 Also DAve, if you have a 30-30 you should check out Hornady's LEVERolution ammunition, it's fairly expensive but it is a major improvement at range.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 01:48 AM (BgIBZ)

549 Also, at this point I would like to both curse, and congratulate, Mr. Matt Bracken on a job well done. It seems he's Nostradamus. So it wasn't a stadium shooting... still, damn you to hell you magnificent bastard.

Posted by: Lefty Kowalski at December 27, 2012 01:49 AM (qR+xF)

550 525. Kevin smith has a movie where he castes Selma Hayek as a schoolgirl stripper

One of the best movie scenes ever!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 27, 2012 01:50 AM (SMP3h)

551 I just got to tell my wife and best friend that our very close family friend is a registered sex offender

I feel like throwing up
Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 27, 2012 01:48 AM (SMP3h)

shades of gray on this


like a 19yo having sex with a 17yo
or
like a 43 yo having sex with a 15yo


or as Whoopi says, rape, rape?



Posted by: moron #3 at December 27, 2012 01:50 AM (jfSqj)

552 I just got to tell my wife and best friend that our very close family friend is a registered sex offender
>>
I'll assume he didn't get on that list for pissing in public.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 27, 2012 01:51 AM (Y6HTt)

553 "Aww, c'mon. I've no interest in seeing Django (no matter how much it would piss off Spike Lee doing so) but "Reservior Dogs" is excellent. Tarantino is like Kevin Smith in that I like their initial movies (see: "Clerks") but they rapidly become uninteresting afterward."

I'm not a Tarantino fan, really (he's spotty as hell), but Django was a good one. I liked Reservoir Dogs, but haven't watched it in years because of that torture scene. I thought Jackie Brown was excellent, as was Django. The Kevin Smith comparison is totally appropriate: he's another great, great, writer who has never managed to duplicate his early successes. Clerks and, in a different way, Mallrats were great movies.

Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 01:51 AM (wGDey)

554 I would strongly suggest stocking up oncleaning kits and chemicals, esp. CLP 544 Yeah 7.62x39 should be available. Ask yourself: if the bulk of American ammo availability goes underground what calibers are the reloaders gonna produce?

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:51 AM (XDC0v)

555 546



Don't forget True Romance! Oldman was awesome in that one. Heard
Brian Dennehy received a few nominations for his role as well.


Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 01:46 AM (BgIBZ)

Well, I don't necessarily classify "True Romance" as a Tarantino film as they took liberties with his screenplay. But, Dennehy was robbed when he didn't get the Oscar for "Guy getting beaten to death with a toilet tank cover." Pure bullshit, that.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at December 27, 2012 01:52 AM (T7gPe)

556 550 That's called "Dogma". It's actually a great and thoughtful movie but it's a huge button-pusher for a lot of people

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:53 AM (XDC0v)

557 548 O yeah it's very nice but very pricy. Soon it will be all that's available i bet. THIS CURRENT INSTABILITY WILL LAST UNTIL jAN. 20 AT THE VERY LEAST!!!

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:55 AM (XDC0v)

558
Only guns and ammo still available tend to be the expensive stuff.

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:56 AM (XDC0v)

559 so does Selma Hayak get naked in Dogma?


if not pffft, I can watch reruns of Titanic for boobies



or that Sharon Stone one



Posted by: moron #3 at December 27, 2012 01:58 AM (jfSqj)

560 Ask yourself: if the bulk of American ammo availability goes underground what calibers are the reloaders gonna produce?
Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 01:51 AM (XDC0v)
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Yeah I thought about that afterward. If it comes down to 22LR and 30-30, so be it. Fucking progressives. Right before I start making enough money to actually buy some good stuff. Fortunately I have a decent stock of 7.62x39

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 01:59 AM (BgIBZ)

561 I'm not a Tarantino fan, really (he's spotty as hell), but Django was a good one. I liked Reservoir Dogs, but haven't watched it in years because of that torture scene. I thought Jackie Brown was excellent, as was Django. The Kevin Smith comparison is totally appropriate: he's another great, great, writer who has never managed to duplicate his early successes. Clerks and, in a different way, Mallrats were great movies.

Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 01:51 AM

I suspect it was no accident that Tarantino declined after the Avary partnership ended. That guy seemed to be able to construct a good story and reign in Tarantino's excesses. "True Romance" was the best movie done and led to the eventual split, apparently, although Avary got paid off later, with "Killing Zoe" (according to scuttlebut/rumour). TR, Dogs and PF were Tarantino and Avary together. "Jackie Brown" was an adaptation and not bad at all, but a little clunky. After that, it's all shit city.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 02:00 AM (yBF/9)

562 551
I just got to tell my wife and best friend that our very close family friend is a registered sex offender



I feel like throwing up

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 27, 2012 01:48 AM (SMP3h)



shades of gray on this





like a 19yo having sex with a 17yo

or

like a 43 yo having sex with a 15yo





or as Whoopi says, rape, rape?









Posted by: moron #3 at December 27, 2012 01:50 AM (jfSqj)

Or the old indecent exposure with one being pissing in a dark and deserted alley, or the other being fapping in front of a school.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 27, 2012 02:01 AM (Zd/NW)

563 If they don't ram a ban through in the next few months will they have to wait until after 2014? Right now it seems like a loser of an election platform.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 02:04 AM (BgIBZ)

564 551,2. T is not amused with this info
Shit fan...together

Dogma, that's right
She in just a bra and panties but oh sweet lord
Brb, bunk is calling

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 27, 2012 02:04 AM (SMP3h)

565 BUY/OWN Military calibers

my $.02 FWIW


just get common military calibers

so
.22 Long Rifle
9x19 or 9mm Lugar
.40S&W (USAF and USCG use this)
.45ACP

.223/5.56x45
.308/7.62x51
.30-06/7.62x63
.300 Win Mag
.338 Lapua
.50BMG
12 guage

or commy block
9x18 Markerev
7.62x39
7.62x54R



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 27, 2012 02:06 AM (jfSqj)

566 562. I think the worst part is he could have told us over the last few years and said hey, I fucked up...this is what happened

I was on that link from the earlier post just for shits and grins and checked my street
My daughter was there too when the picture came up

We're going to ask him straight out tomorrow
Then t will check the court record

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 27, 2012 02:07 AM (yZxXI)

567 565. .50 bmg is common?
Must be some big fucking deer where you live

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 27, 2012 02:09 AM (yZxXI)

568 .50 bmg is common?
Must be some big fucking deer where you live
Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 27, 2012 02:09 AM (yZxXI)


Suprisingly yes,


most can't shoot them for shit, but there are alot around

ID hunting regs make it almost impossible to hut with .50BMG FYI



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 27, 2012 02:12 AM (jfSqj)

569 oh and I'm now on the AOSHQ yahoo group, so when you fuckers, curse and refer to SEX in the comments that sets off the filters at work, I can still hash about there



night all

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 27, 2012 02:17 AM (jfSqj)

570 BUY/OWN Military calibers



my $.02 FWIW





just get common military calibers


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 27, 2012 02:06 AM


Yeah its only common sense to have guns that use ammo that can be
captured, liberated, scavenged, or even gotten from "friendly" troops.
The way I always thought about it is that historically it seems that
personal arms are really just a stepping stone to
eventually capture better ones. You have to figure if shit
really...really hit the fan you'll be looking to pick up serious shit at
the first opportunity. If it ever got that ugly I think the term "raiding party" is going to reenter every day usage.

Posted by: Berserker at December 27, 2012 02:18 AM (FMbng)

571 Speaking of .50BMG, let's not forget the pressing need to ban heat-seeking bullets!

http://youtu.be/BRQqieimwLQ

Posted by: Tears of John's Boehner at December 27, 2012 02:18 AM (BgIBZ)

572 So honestly is it worth it to build an AR even though ammo is nowhere to be seen? Is it worth it to build it then sell it? Do I keep ithe kit buried under my neighbors shed?

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at December 27, 2012 02:20 AM (gkfSV)

573 572 So honestly is it worth it to build an AR even though ammo is nowhere to be seen? Is it worth it to build it then sell it? Do I keep ithe kit buried under my neighbors shed?
Posted by: Exasperated Expat at December 27, 2012 02:20 AM (gkfSV)
---

I'd go with yes, yes, wait and see but probably no. You know, Global Warming causes boating accidents (http://preview.tinyurl.com/dys9zvv).

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 02:23 AM (BgIBZ)

574 563 there is absolutely no way of knowing. Anyone who sez otherwise is posturing. But I can't imagine why ammo would ever be cheaper +11111 on the mil (common) calibers AR's will be sellable at profit if not usable

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 02:27 AM (XDC0v)

575 On a lighter note, Sigourney Weaver still appears to be boneable.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 02:41 AM (BgIBZ)

576 "So honestly is it worth it to build an AR even though ammo is nowhere to be seen? Is it worth it to build it then sell it? Do I keep ithe kit buried under my neighbors shed?"

Are you kidding me? .223 is ubiquitous. You can buy five gallon paint buckets full at any gun show in America. Other than .22 and 12ga, I'd say it's the easiest ammo to find, and one of the cheapest.

Posted by: Jordan at December 27, 2012 02:51 AM (wGDey)

577 576 I'll take 5K. What was true before is not true now.

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 02:58 AM (XDC0v)

578 577 576 I'll take 5K. What was true before is not true now.
Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 02:58 AM (XDC0v)
---

Would you say that buying ammo at this point and waiting to buy an AR in the future is a better bet on a short budget?

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 27, 2012 03:00 AM (BgIBZ)

579 ugh, I can't remember the damn reading order of the Aliens comics

Posted by: The Dude at December 27, 2012 03:26 AM (tw6Ar)

580 *checks thread for pulse*

Posted by: Dr. Perry Cox at December 27, 2012 03:26 AM (jts1f)

581 It's alive!

Posted by: Victor von Frankenstein at December 27, 2012 03:27 AM (jts1f)

582 Oldsailor and MrCaniac (I keep reading that as McCaniac, fwiw), the Bork thing, to me, looks like the dividing line between authentic bipartisanship (however phony it may have been) and the scorched-earth policy that the libs have perfected. Scalia was confirmed with not much trouble, according to my research. Ever since Bork, the only two real conservatives that were confirmed to SCOTUS, imo, were Thomas and Alito. We all know what Thomas went through, and Alito was no shoo-in, either. Even our backstabbing buddy Roberts faced some opposition. Yet, the GOP waves through Dem appointments like Ginsburg, the Wise Latina,and Kagan.

Scotus is the main reason that I wanted Obama defeated. I don't know that Romney wouldn't have given us another Souter or Roberts, but we know what Obama is going to appoint if he gets the chance. Scotus justices seem to live longer than average but nobody is immortal....

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 27, 2012 03:33 AM (yJYwC)

583 As for Tarantino, I love Reservoir Dogs and True Romance. I know that many of you don't like Pulp Fiction, and overall I do think it's overrated, but it does have a couple of great scenes. Kill Bill was entertaining in a live-action cartoon fashion. Jackie Brown didn't do it for me. Haven't seen Inglorious Basterds for some reason, and not sure if I want to see Django.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 27, 2012 03:37 AM (yJYwC)

584 Django is quite a bit of fun, still pissed that from now on, whenever I say Django, people will think of this movie instead of the awesome Nero and Corbucci film (who I still think is a bigger bad ass than Eastwood's Man With No Name)

I personally liked Jackie Brown as it's pretty much his only film that doesn't boil down to ripping off better films

Posted by: The Dude at December 27, 2012 03:42 AM (tw6Ar)

585 #486

I'd be willing to bet that five year old episodes of Top Gear get more viewers than Piers Morgan on his best night.

Posted by: epobirs at December 27, 2012 03:45 AM (kcfmt)

586 578 Start with ammo for what you have. Ammo as an investment I belieeve will outpace any other commodity like precious metals. All investments carry risk

Posted by: DAve at December 27, 2012 03:53 AM (XDC0v)

587 As for Tarantino, I love Reservoir Dogs and True Romance. I know that many of you don't like Pulp Fiction, and overall I do think it's overrated, but it does have a couple of great scenes. Kill Bill was entertaining in a live-action cartoon fashion. Jackie Brown didn't do it for me. Haven't seen Inglorious Basterds for some reason, and not sure if I want to see Django.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 27, 2012 03:37 AM

Weird thing about True Romance, is that IIRC, Avary's story was scripted by Tarantino to play out like Pulp Fiction, all flashbacks and flash forwads. Tony Scott was dubious about it and went with Avary's layout, but retained the basic dialogue. The movie version is much better than Tarantino's Pulp Fiction style structure. Jackie Brown has some great parts, but the film doesn't quite come together well.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 04:09 AM (yBF/9)

588 I personally liked Jackie Brown as it's pretty much his only film that doesn't boil down to ripping off better films

Posted by: The Dude at December 27, 2012 03:42 AM

I liked Jackie Brown, despite it's flaws and yeah, Tarantino is a shameless rip off artists. Over rated. He needs a decent collaborator to tell him when he's full of shit and whatever "homage" he's attempting is just yoinking.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 04:11 AM (yBF/9)

589
the self-pitying in the first bit of this post isn't a good look maan. just sayin'.

Posted by: JDP at December 27, 2012 04:39 AM (8HhF2)

590 Is dead, this thread?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2012 05:28 AM (kaalw)

591 dunno

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2012 05:32 AM (yBF/9)

592 547 Damnit
I just got to tell my wife and best friend that our very close family friend is a registered sex offender

I feel like throwing up

Read "real stats" on this group of offenders. It's not what you think.

Posted by: AnnaS at December 27, 2012 05:33 AM (aUHCG)

593 OK, I up already.

Posted by: sTevo at December 27, 2012 06:02 AM (VMcEw)

594 Good morning morons!

Posted by: USA at December 27, 2012 06:05 AM (RIg+t)

595 @iowahawkblog You can't be prosecuted for breaking a law you support. #TheDavidGregoryLoophole.

Posted by: sTevo at December 27, 2012 06:22 AM (VMcEw)

596 Mr. Moo Moo has some valid points...but...

1) In developing countries, the reward can be high enough to make those "uncertain" pay offs worthwhile, like "yeah, we just bought the only cement license for the region!" Risk/reward is in effect. Sure in China, sure I am paying bribes, but if I win its huge!

2) He is describing high level deals. Those exist in the USA as well - WTF was that spectrum deal that was shut down? But in reality, and especially in the USA, small, mundane deals are what can drive the economy. Think about it - we consider 3% growth to be good. So, you shave off 0.1% here and there through decisions on the margin and YES it adds up.

3) Every little cost adds up. I deal with manufacturers in Taiwan and China, and often people are amazed that Taiwan can be cheaper than China...how can that be? Well, in China you have to pay bribes, you have to re-work, you have to have huge order quantities, etc. And in America we manage to make sure that we too have special costs...like lawsuits and OSHA and everything else.

4) Anytime your business relies on bribes of 250k to a minister's son...well, you're in politics really, not business.

Posted by: Sexypig at December 27, 2012 06:23 AM (dZQh7)

597 Morning all. And a big and sincere Get Well soon out to President Bush Sr.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 06:35 AM (79ueO)

598 Can I kill a thread or what?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 06:39 AM (79ueO)

599 Good morning! My county is under travel restrictions for another day due to the snow.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 27, 2012 06:44 AM (GoIUi)

600
I'm laying (not sitting in the snow) and making snow angels. Let it burn.

If you have an AK in each hand it makes your 'wings" look really long.

Do lady angels appreciate longer wings?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 27, 2012 06:45 AM (8kqab)

601 Good morning! My county is under travel restrictions for another day due to the snow.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 27, 2012 06:44 AM (GoIUi)


Where is that? Here in Bergen County NJ, we only got a dusting and it is raining now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 06:47 AM (79ueO)

602 #601 Johnson County, Indiana. Just south of Indianapolis. We are in the northern part of the county. South of us is farmland with open fields, so the roads get lots of drifting. I imagine we will be ok by tomorrow.

We got about 9 inches here. Farther south in places like Bloomington (Indiana University) and Bedford they got 12 inches. Those areas are hilly and don't have a lot of snow plows, so they are really snowbound.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 27, 2012 06:50 AM (GoIUi)

603 We got about 9 inches here. Farther south in places like Bloomington (Indiana University) and Bedford they got 12 inches. Those areas are hilly and don't have a lot of snow plows, so they are really snowbound.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 27, 2012 06:50 AM (GoIUi)

yeah I saw on the News that Indiana got hit hard. Well hello winter

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 06:51 AM (79ueO)

604 Good news! People are shouting nasty things at Matt Lauer on the streets of New York! Ha!

I think this is how all of the press should be treated.

http://tinyurl.com/cjrfbc3

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 27, 2012 07:01 AM (GoIUi)

605 Where's the morning thread?

Hey all!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2012 07:07 AM (XkWWK)

606 Where's the morning thread?

Hey all!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2012 07:07 AM (XkWWK)

Sleeping in I guess?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 07:18 AM (79ueO)

607 Can't these idiots write a scrip to automatically post a morning news thread at 7:00AM?

It's really not that hard.


Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 07:22 AM (RrD4h)

608 Can't these idiots write a scrip to automatically post a morning news thread at 7:00AM?

It's really not that hard.


Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 07:22 AM (RrD4h)


The Middle East continues to spiral down hill and the black messiah is jetting back to DC to fuck us all. What else do you need to know? Oh yeah the Jets still suck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2012 07:24 AM (79ueO)

609 We got about 9 inches here

How you doin'?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 27, 2012 07:31 AM (BrQrN)

610 @608

Good thing I am a Giants fan.

I have never been a Jet hater until now.

They have wronged Tim Tebow and it seems that Rex Ryan has personal animus towards Tebow as he seems to be spreading lies about him to damage him in the eyes of his teamamtes, sports writers and potential suitors.

Until Ryan is gone, I will root for two teams - The Giants and any team playing the Jets.


Posted by: General Woundwort at December 27, 2012 07:31 AM (RrD4h)

611 Morning all. Back to work and I don't wanna. Yes, yes, I am actually thankful that I have a job for many reasons but still. Don't wanna.


So it looks like the holiday retail season was a bust. That is in line with what I observed over the last month or so. About three weeks before Christmas Mommy and I went to the mall to hit up a sale and there were 50-60% discounts up then. We went out again the weekend before Christmas and the mall was a normal Saturday busy, most sales were at least 50% off and after we left Mommy commented that people weren't carrying many bags. Our family Christmas was normal but that's because we've agreed to a budget and stick to it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 27, 2012 07:37 AM (Gk3SS)

612
"We got about 9 inches here. Farther south in places like Bloomington (Indiana University) and Bedford they got 12 inches. Those areas are hilly and don't have a lot of snow plows, so they are really snowbound."

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 27, 2012 06:50 AM (GoIUi)30 miles south of Michigan State and 30 miles west of U of M, we've got abouta foot. We couldn't get up the back driveway last night as there was a little ice underneth the snow.As president of the homeownersassociation, I get to make sure the private road is plowed and salted - and to listen to the bitching and moaning when the plow guy doesn't show up on time.

Posted by: jwest at December 27, 2012 07:38 AM (ZDsRL)

613 Charles Sumner got the beating that Ted Kennedy deserved.

Posted by: Victrola at December 27, 2012 07:45 AM (X3Y9c)

614 Miss Marple at December 27, 2012 07:01 AM (GoIUi)

They're screaming at Lauer because he got Ann Curry fired. I'd like to see people screaming at reporters on the street because reporters are craven, lying idiots and Obama butt-kissers.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 27, 2012 07:56 AM (BStAJ)

615 <b>Sit in the snow and LET. IT. BURN.</b>

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at December 27, 2012 11:59 AM (2MkzD)

616 What are the Republicans in Congress afraid of? That the media will speak in harsh tones about them? I don't get it. The have secure pensions, a better medial plan than anybody. If they lose their next election, they will never miss a meal.

This country is headed toward deflation like Japan or hyper inflation like Argentina. We all know what needs to be done. Cut spending. They control the House. Why not write a bill that cuts spending, eliminates some federal departments, eliminates deductions. Has the Department of Energy ever produced any energy; has the Department of Education educated a single child?

Republicans suck at negotiations. They walk into the room giving President Obama half of what he wants. They effectively surrender before the negotiations even begin. Why not do the right thing and actually address the problem facing this country. Spending.

What are they afraid of I don't get it.

Posted by: kmark at December 27, 2012 01:50 PM (SVq69)

617 "When told by the new administration, the majority party in Congress, and
the mainstream media to walk straight, isn't it time to zig and zag?"

If this is what you're suggesting the Republicans do, it won't work. The Republican Party is either too lazy to bother being an opposition party, or forgot what it entailed to be one.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 27, 2012 03:02 PM (A3ftE)

618 Ok, S&W Model 67 looks to be about perfect, at least worth giving it a try.

And I'm looking at a Ruger Blackhawk flat top in 44SP.

Thanks for the advice folks.

On thing that's pissing me off is that shortages aren't just AR types. I'm looking for a Winchester 1892 in .44M; it was an assault rifle back in 1894. WTF.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada at December 27, 2012 03:49 PM (Z5BDI)






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