Maria Bartiromo Becomes First Journalist In American History To Ask What Democrats Are Prepared To Do To Achieve A Compromise

So it can be done after all!

First of all, we're going to hit the debt limit on Monday. The Treasury will take a series of measures, such as delaying schedule payments to pension funds, to make $200 billion in breathing room.

"These extraordinary measures ... can create approximately $200 billion in headroom under the debt limit," Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner wrote in a letter to congressional leaders.
Normally, these measures would buy the Treasury about two months time before hitting the debt ceiling, Geithner said in the letter. But a series of planned tax hikes and spending cuts due to take effect in early January could give Treasury further time if they take effect as scheduled, he said.

Since The Media is supposedly in favor of "compromise," it's curious that they never ask Democrats how they might be prepared to compromise.

Maria Bartiromo actually did ask a Democrat that, Sen. Ben Cardin.

Answer: He's not willing to compromise on anything. His Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, and Plan D are all the same: Higher taxes.

Posted by: Ace at 05:52 PM

Comments

1 What are you prepared to cut?????

Posted by: Bruce at December 26, 2012 05:53 PM (d6+Gd)

2
Quelle surprise!

Posted by: Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 at December 26, 2012 05:53 PM (BHM5V)

3 Fetch the marshmallows.

Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2012 05:54 PM (z9HTb)

4 What are you prepared to cut?????

Defense. Next question.

Posted by: Democrats Everywhere at December 26, 2012 05:55 PM (o1kXv)

5 My answer to all requests for donations (charities) is this:

"I am sorry, but I cannot donate anything due to the expected increase in taxes. Perhaps you should try for a grant from the Obama administration."

For requests for political group donations:

"I am sorry, but I am donating nothing due to the expected tax increases. Check back with me in 6 months."

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 05:55 PM (GoIUi)

6 Repubs need to adapt to this stategery : FYNQ

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at December 26, 2012 05:55 PM (tYq1d)

7 I want to do bad things with Ms. Bartiromo. Bad, bad, naughty things.

With whipped cream.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 26, 2012 05:56 PM (o1kXv)

8 Someone remind me . How long does 200 billion last ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 26, 2012 05:57 PM (tZFXb)

9 What the hell, someone actually asked a Dem that? Minions, fetch me my fainting couch!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 26, 2012 05:57 PM (Gk3SS)

10 FIRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8

Posted by: Arthur Brown at December 26, 2012 05:57 PM (b23ex)

11 I'm prepared to cut my Maui Wowie with a dab of Acapulco Gold.

The sacrifices I make for you people, you will never know.

Posted by: King Putt at December 26, 2012 05:58 PM (ccXZP)

12 Two things to increase taxes on:
1. Defined-benefit pension plans (at 150% of the amount not funded at least 10 years in advance, but the recipient can switch w/o penalty to defined-contribution) and
2. copyright revenues (a) in excess of $1,000,000 for any single item; (b) owned by persons or entities other than the individual writer; and/or (c) for all works more than ten years old.

Posted by: DenverGregg at December 26, 2012 05:58 PM (5tPx9)

13 How long does 200 billion last ?

That will last Michelle week on vacation.

Assuming that she "slums" it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 26, 2012 05:58 PM (o1kXv)

14 And on NBC too?
I know it's CNBC, but still.....

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 05:58 PM (HDgX3)

15 We're already compromising by not taxing you at 100%, which is the only rate you peasants deserve. You were born to work and we were born to figure out how to spend the fruits of your labor. It's science.

Posted by: Democrat Asshole Politicians Everywhere at December 26, 2012 05:59 PM (eP0u9)

16 MOAR TAXES. Which one of those words don't you understand? What are you - a herd of Morons?

Posted by: Boomer Redneque at December 26, 2012 05:59 PM (aohj0)

17 so we have sharyl atkinson, Maria bartiromo, and an occasional tapper attempt to be journolists , ?

It's a start? or it's that bad?

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 05:59 PM (nqBYe)

18 Minions, fetch me my fainting couch!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 26, 2012 05:57 PM (Gk3SS)

_____

You have minions?

Posted by: Cricket at December 26, 2012 05:59 PM (DrC22)

19 All right! The Money Honey!

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:00 PM (HqXYa)

20 alex , fainting couch and tea!

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:00 PM (nqBYe)

21 5
My answer to all requests for donations (charities) is this:

"I
am sorry, but I cannot donate anything due to the expected increase in
taxes. Perhaps you should try for a grant from the Obama
administration."

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 05:55 PM (GoIUi)
_____________________________
I told a Salvation Army woman ringing the bell, that she should go ask Obama for some money. I'm done with charity. The one exception is animal shelters. I still help out a lot there. But charity to people....fuck you. You voted for this, live with it.LIB

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:01 PM (HDgX3)

22 Eric Holder is on the phone to her deported.

Posted by: dantesed at December 26, 2012 06:01 PM (GmsM/)

23
Let it happen. The sooner it hits, the sooner we are through with it.

Posted by: rd at December 26, 2012 06:02 PM (zLp5I)

24 I saw that this morning. The applause at the end is money! Her nic is the Money Honey.

Posted by: USA at December 26, 2012 06:02 PM (RIg+t)

25 Que the $20 BILLION manditory gun buy back program. Your AR is worth $25 or a cup of starbucks crappucino to barky. If you say "bushmaster" you will also receive a mint.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at December 26, 2012 06:02 PM (qEZxt)

26 I refuse to accept minion as a title . Lackey , or nothing , thank you very much .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 26, 2012 06:02 PM (tZFXb)

27 I told a Salvation Army woman ringing the bell, that
she should go ask Obama for some money.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:01 PM (HDgX3)

I cant stiff the red kettle. That's bad juju.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:03 PM (HqXYa)

28 15 We're already compromising by not taxing you at 100%, which is the only rate you peasants deserve. You were born to work and we were born to figure out how to spend the fruits of your labor. It's science.

Posted by: Democrat Asshole Politicians Everywhere at December 26, 2012 05:59 PM (eP0u9)

************************

And the science is settled.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque at December 26, 2012 06:03 PM (aohj0)

29 You have minions?

She's a cruel mistress.
Fair.
But cruel.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2012 06:03 PM (b23ex)

30 What are you - a herd of Morons?
Posted by: Boomer Redneque

I don't think the collective term is a 'herd.'

A 'March of Morons' perhaps.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 06:03 PM (KDq5l)

31 She's a cruel mistress.

Fair.

But cruel.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2012 06:03 PM (b23ex)
Beatings? Are there beatings?! <<shudder>>

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:04 PM (HqXYa)

32 Where do I submit my minion resume?

Posted by: JimboHoffa at December 26, 2012 06:04 PM (qEZxt)

33 well in 'fairness' garrett, it is alextopia or obamaville which sounds prettier?

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (nqBYe)

34 A 'March of Morons' perhaps.

A 'Fap of Morons'?

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (b23ex)

35 Ace,
These "extraoridinary measures" are nothing but accounting tricks. There are no payments to pension funds being suspended, because there are no real money payments to those funds anyway. The payments are the form of IOUs (special non-marketable Treasury bonds).
All they do is swap those IOUs for IOUs for the IOUs, IOU^2 I call it, which don't count toward the official limit. This allows them to continue borrowing real money, via real marketable Treasury bonds. The legal wording is a convoluted mess, which is how they like it (to cover up what a silly little scam the whole thing is), and they can only do the IOU^2 for a limited amount, which depends on a number of factors which will MEGLO you.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (VVB18)

36 Fapping of Morons?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (0WLla)

37
His Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, and Plan D are all the same: Higher taxes.

Hey, me too! We should totally hang out together.

Posted by: John Boehner

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (kdS6q)

38 *grovel*

Posted by: JimboHoffa at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (qEZxt)

39 ombudsman, prolly, but with thigh high boots and silk cuffs.

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (nqBYe)

40
Damn you garrett!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (0WLla)

41 Not tonight. I have a headache.

Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton,Sos and BMF at December 26, 2012 06:06 PM (Md8Uo)

42 A 'March of Morons' perhaps.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 06:03 PM (KDq5l)

_____

Perhaps a Klatch of Morons

Posted by: Cricket at December 26, 2012 06:06 PM (DrC22)

43 ombudsman, prolly, but with thigh high boots and silk cuffs.

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (nqBYe)
does she have a safe word?

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:07 PM (HqXYa)

44 i till donate to salvation army, however red cross is out.

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:07 PM (nqBYe)

45 ombusman, yes, but only she knows it!

bwahahha

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:07 PM (nqBYe)

46 As I watched a number of family oriented fables type movies over the holidays, I noticed a recurring theme: taxes are onerous and bad for The People. The people imposing them are EVIL.

Why does this logic not carry over into the real world?

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 26, 2012 06:07 PM (v9Cj5)

47 Cavuto has been asking politicans this for MONTHS!

Posted by: pjp at December 26, 2012 06:08 PM (X1WN4)

48 Not tonight. I have a headache.

That's my girl!

Posted by: Billy Jeff at December 26, 2012 06:08 PM (z9HTb)

49 A 'March of Morons' perhaps.

Unlike a Regressive, I'm willing to negotiate in good faith and compromise on the "herd" nomenclature. However, I think "a March" indicates a level of activity that is incompatible with the Moron Lifestyle (TM).

With hat said, I propose a Munch of Morons

Posted by: Boomer Redneque at December 26, 2012 06:08 PM (aohj0)

50 7
I want to do bad things with Ms. Bartiromo. Bad, bad, naughty things.

With whipped cream.

I think it's the prehensile upper lip. Think what she could do with that. Whatever it is, I like it.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:08 PM (6TB1Z)

51 41 Not tonight. I have a headache.
Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton,Sos and BMF at December 26, 2012 06:06 PM (Md8Uo)

CAR!

Posted by: Bill Harvard Clinton at December 26, 2012 06:08 PM (DrC22)

52 Just so long as it isn't " Palomino " . That would be creepy .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 26, 2012 06:09 PM (tZFXb)

53 Cavuto has been asking politicans this for MONTHS!

Posted by: pjp at December 26, 2012 06:08 PM (X1WN4)

Yeah, but Cavuto doesnt look like the Money Honey.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:09 PM (HqXYa)

54 Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:05 PM (nqBYe)

Alextopia, for certain. It's not really a choice, mind you.
In the off chance that there is a choice, I'd like to be serving in the Pleasure Guard. If it pleases.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2012 06:09 PM (b23ex)

55 As, fuck! My fat fingers can't work these stupid tiny on-screen buttons!

"With THAT said..."

Posted by: Boomer Redneque at December 26, 2012 06:09 PM (aohj0)

56 The applause at the end of Ms. Bartiromo's most excellent interview was great.

"Are you guys incompetant?" I'm certain that was merely rhetorical in nature. More of this, please.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 26, 2012 06:09 PM (yiIja)

57 As to the SA, they represent the best of the Christian charitable tradition. IOW, the people who BO is doing his best to damage. Don't blame them for the stupidity of the unwashed.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:10 PM (6TB1Z)

58 I don't know. Maybe it's a tumor. It probably won't clear up until 2016.

Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton,Sos and BMF at December 26, 2012 06:10 PM (Md8Uo)

59 It's a Barrel of Morons.

Duh.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 26, 2012 06:10 PM (SUKHu)

60

I want to do bad things with Ms. Bartiromo. Bad, bad, naughty things.

Two words: Squawk Box

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2012 06:10 PM (kdS6q)

61 As to the SA, they represent the best of the
Christian charitable tradition.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:10 PM (6TB1Z)
Second.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:11 PM (HqXYa)

62 Maria, taking it to the man in spectacular fashion. The MFM needs way, way, way more of this. And she didn't even break New York gun laws to do it!

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at December 26, 2012 06:11 PM (WX65W)

63
30 What are you - a herd of Morons?
Posted by: Boomer Redneque

I don't think the collective term is a 'herd.'

A 'March of Morons' perhaps.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2012 06:03 PM (KDq5l)

What? Horde isn't good enough for you?

Although I could go for a Murder of Morons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 26, 2012 06:11 PM (c2oll)

64 Two words: Squawk Box

We have a Winner!

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2012 06:11 PM (b23ex)

65
Yeah, but Cavuto doesnt look like the Money Honey.

Posted by: ombudsmanBrilliant!

Posted by: Jon Lovitz- ACTING! at December 26, 2012 06:12 PM (Md8Uo)

66 57
As to the SA, they represent the best of the Christian charitable
tradition. IOW, the people who BO is doing his best to damage. Don't
blame them for the stupidity of the unwashed.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:10 PM (6TB1Z)

______________
But who are the recipients of SA money/stuff? Members of the FSA. Just like every other charity.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:12 PM (HDgX3)

67 Although phone requests get my stock answers, I do put money in the Salvation Army kettle. In fact, I do it every time I pass one, in memory of my father, who always told me to donate to them due to his experiences with them and the odious Red Cross during WWII.

So I put money in and say a prayer for my dad.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:12 PM (GoIUi)

68
A Fap of Morons!
Excellent

Posted by: Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 at December 26, 2012 06:13 PM (BHM5V)

69 But who are the recipients of SA money/stuff? Members of the FSA. Just like every other charity.

The traditional recipient is the true down and outer. Skid row. I seriously doubt those folks voted at all. They aren't the problem.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:14 PM (6TB1Z)

70 I do
put money in the Salvation Army kettle. In fact, I do it every time I
pass one, in memory of my father, who always told me to donate to them
due to his experiences with them and the odious Red Cross during WWII.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:12 PM (GoIUi)
Boy, those Red Cross stories are legion, arent they? I heard them all growing up.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:14 PM (HqXYa)

71
I think it's the prehensile upper lip.
Posted by: pep

I have a friend you might like. Great personality, wonderful cook.

True, she's a Malayan tapir, but it sounds like that's your type...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2012 06:15 PM (kdS6q)

72 *sigh*

I suppose a Horde of Morons is the obvious, logical answer. So, we can be fairly certain that it won't be discussed on the Dino news

Posted by: Boomer Redneque at December 26, 2012 06:15 PM (aohj0)

73 "Compromise? Never heard of it."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:15 PM (T0lrq)

74 #70 ombudsman, my dad got mad when I gave 10 cents to the Red Cross for a button in 3rd grade. He was mad they were at the school, mad he hadn't told me about them, so that is when I first heard about it.

He never would give them anything, but the Salvation Army always got a Christmas donation.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:16 PM (GoIUi)

75 I told a Salvation Army woman ringing the bell, that she should go ask Obama for some money. I'm done with charity. The one exception is animal shelters. I still help out a lot there. But charity to people....fuck you. You voted for this, live with it.LIB
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

I do give what I can to our local homeless shelter as I see more and more kids with their families waitingoutside toget in and eat/sleep. I also give to our local animal shelters as they will take a big hit due to the Obama Economy.

Posted by: Cheri at December 26, 2012 06:16 PM (G+Wff)

76 True, she's a Malayan tapir, but it sounds like that's your type...

Depends. How is she around a termite mound?

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:16 PM (6TB1Z)

77
Wait, I thought Turbo Timmy the Tax Evader's plan was to just not collect the taxes at the higher rates if they go over the "cliff", at least for the middle class, so how does that help them?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 26, 2012 06:17 PM (69Mdf)

78 As the semi-official Mr. Language Person here today, I heartily commend "A Fap of Morons" be our moniker from this day onwards, should that term be needed. Of course, any reference to The Horde is self-understood.

And when addressing our Queen, we can refer to ourselves as Minions, as in, "Proud Minions of Alextopia, Our Queen and Keeper of the Royal Stompy Boots."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 26, 2012 06:17 PM (yiIja)

79 Two things to increase taxes on:

1. Defined-benefit pension plans (at 150% of the amount not funded
at least 10 years in advance, but the recipient can switch w/o penalty
to defined-contribution) and

2. copyright revenues (a) in excess of $1,000,000 for any single
item; (b) owned by persons or entities other than the individual writer;
and/or (c) for all works more than ten years old.

Posted by: DenverGregg at December 26, 2012 05:58 PM (5tPx9)

Republicans haven't got the guts to attempt these tactics. Why do they not have the guts? Because the airwaves are owned by Liberals who will attack them relentlessly.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 26, 2012 06:17 PM (bb5+k)

80 The traditional recipient is the true down and
outer. Skid row. I seriously doubt those folks voted at all. They aren't
the problem.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:14 PM (6TB1Z)

____________________________
Check again. The SA has "youth camps". From the SA website:

"Thousands of children from low-income families enjoy fresh air,
exercise and new friendships at annual summercamp programs. The camping
experience is more than just a pleasant vacation. Children learn new
skills and self-reliance; trained counselors who understand their
emotional needs and problems help them to mature."
You want me to give you money so some Jr. Member of the FSA gets to go to camp for free while I pay hundreds of dollars for my kid to go to camp?
Not gonna happen.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:17 PM (HDgX3)

81 How many times do you wingnuts need to be told? If it's not "balanced," it's not gonna fly!

Posted by: Fritz at December 26, 2012 06:18 PM (w3+gB)

82 Mr. Moo Moo, I work at my church's food bank. A lot of the people there (and I would guess those helped by the Salvation Army) are not FSA people.

I have looked into the faces of guys who were former drywall contractors, roofers, and carpet layers. There are no jobs for them, and although they are willing to work hard, there is nothing for them. It kills them to come into the food pantry and ask for help, but they do it for their kids. Many of them ask me if I know of any work.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:18 PM (GoIUi)

83 "79 Two things to increase taxes on:

1. Defined-benefit pension plans (at 150% of the amount not funded
at least 10 years in advance, but the recipient can switch w/o penalty
to defined-contribution) and

2. copyright revenues (a) in excess of $1,000,000 for any single
item; (b) owned by persons or entities other than the individual writer;
and/or (c) for all works more than ten years old.

Posted by: DenverGregg at December 26, 2012 05:58 PM (5tPx9)

Republicans haven't got the guts to attempt these tactics. Why do they not have the guts? Because the airwaves are owned by Liberals who will attack them relentlessly.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 26, 2012 06:17 PM (bb5+k) "

But that happens either way. Leftists really don't grasp incentive structures. Unfortunately, ditto.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:20 PM (T0lrq)

84 You want me to give you money so some Jr. Member of the FSA gets to go to
camp for free while I pay hundreds of dollars for my kid to go to camp?

Yes.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:20 PM (6TB1Z)

85 such as delaying schedule payments to pension funds, to make $200 billion in breathing room

Working. like. a. charm.

Posted by: Illinois at December 26, 2012 06:20 PM (mD2oW)

86 "Are you guys incompetant?" I'm certain that was merely rhetorical in nature. More of this, please.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy,

Yes, quite a sweet gig for these whores. They get a big paycheck, bennies, perks, travel, access, etc. AND they get to not do their JOB.

Posted by: Cheri at December 26, 2012 06:21 PM (G+Wff)

87 Most charities start out with good intentions....help this group of people. But over time they grow in size and bureaucracy. And there just aren't enough people to help. So the charity starts expanding into other avenues and gets bigger and more bureaucratic. And before long you have the Salvation Army hassling me outside every mall in December so they can send "low income" kids to summer camp and other such "charity".

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:21 PM (HDgX3)

88 I use to contribute to the Salvation Army until they joined with a bunch of other charities in some stupid social justice league to express concern for the impact of global warming on the poor. At that very moment I realized that they must have money to burn.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 26, 2012 06:21 PM (nZvGM)

89 my reasoning for donating to salvation army is this;
i actually see the previous homeless get to work at their stores along with those less fortunate , they also actually do open shelters for homeless.
the actually do spend time and money trying to get druggies off of drugs with programs. are all of these things perfect?
doubtful, but i actually see that their is real effort.

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:22 PM (nqBYe)

90 You want me to give you money so some Jr. Member of the FSA gets to go to

camp for free while I pay hundreds of dollars for my kid to go to camp?

I am all for teaching these kids self-reliance at a camp. They sure aren't going to learn it at home.

Also, the camping program is not a large part of their budget. Most of the money goes to feeding people and giving them somewhere warm and safe t sleep.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:22 PM (GoIUi)

91 And before long you have the Salvation Army hassling me outside every
mall in December so they can send "low income" kids to summer camp and
other such "charity".

Truly, I have never, ever, had that experience. The SA bellringers stand there and ring a bell. They don't approach anyone, and that's one of the things I like most about them.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:22 PM (6TB1Z)

92 there*

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:23 PM (nqBYe)

93 Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:18 PM (GoIUi)

Our government did this to them...think they'll accept any blame?

Posted by: BignJames at December 26, 2012 06:23 PM (j7iSn)

94 82
Mr. Moo Moo, I work at my church's food bank. A lot of the people there
(and I would guess those helped by the Salvation Army) are not FSA
people.

I have looked into the faces of guys who were former
drywall contractors, roofers, and carpet layers. There are no jobs for
them, and although they are willing to work hard, there is nothing for
them. It kills them to come into the food pantry and ask for help, but
they do it for their kids. Many of them ask me if I know of any work.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:18 PM (GoIUi)

____________________________________
Why don't get on the dole? Seriously. These people almost make me madder than the FSA. The govt has all this money they're willing to give you and yet you don't take it. Stop begging me for money and go get what you're owed by the govt. I'm dead serious about this.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:24 PM (HDgX3)

95 Check again. The SA has "youth camps"

Jawohl!

...for sturdy Aryan Youth.

Posted by: Uncle Heinrich at December 26, 2012 06:25 PM (mD2oW)

96 For requests for political group donations:

"I am sorry, but I am donating nothing due to the expected tax increases. Check back with me in 6 months."

Stiff the politicians before the charities. The politicians voted us into this mess.

Posted by: Retread at December 26, 2012 06:25 PM (zxitI)

97 Our government did this to them...think they'll accept any blame?
Posted by: BignJames at December 26, 2012 06:23 PM (j7iSn)

no

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:25 PM (nqBYe)

98 Ben Cardin makes me embarrassed to have spent my wonder years in Maryland. Then again Sherrod "Restraining Order" Brown makes me feel bad about currently living in Ohio.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 26, 2012 06:25 PM (DCtpy)

99 Why don't get on the dole? Seriously. These people
almost make me madder than the FSA. The govt has all this money they're
willing to give you and yet you don't take it. Stop begging me for money
and go get what you're owed by the govt. I'm dead serious about this.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:24 PM (HDgX3)
That's because they aren't rational. A huge percentage of homeless are mentally ill. Thank you Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:25 PM (HqXYa)

100 Yes, quite a sweet gig for these whores. They get a big paycheck, bennies, perks, travel, access, etc. AND they get to not do their JOB.

Oh, yes. Heaven forfend those fucking idiots support a booming economy, which just so happens to INCREASE TAX REVENUE!!!!11!!

And work for an economy where there is diversity of abilities, I mean the real kind, where folks without kollidge degrees can support their families, like we used to have back when we made things...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 26, 2012 06:25 PM (yiIja)

101 I was unaware of the global warming stuff, but a Google search shows that that is almost exclusively in South America's SA. I'd prefer they didn't take that approach, but their emphasis is pretty clearly on helping folks who are victims of natural disasters, of which there are many in South America.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:26 PM (6TB1Z)

102 Truly, I have never, ever, had that experience. The
SA bellringers stand there and ring a bell. They don't approach anyone,
and that's one of the things I like most about them.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:22 PM (6TB1Z)

______________
Fair enough. I mean hassling me in the theoretical sense. And they do kind of hassle you emotionally. It's cold, the ringer's there all bundled up looking pathetic. The message implied is 'don't be an asshole, throw a buck into the pot'.
Whatever, I'm done giving period to everyone. I take care of me and my own. Everyone else can go fuck themselves. Isn't taht the whole idea of LIB? Or have we already gone soft?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:26 PM (HDgX3)

103 $200B, that's like, what, 14 hours of funding?

Posted by: Tears of John's Boehner at December 26, 2012 06:27 PM (BgIBZ)

104 Backwards boy, I gues turning america into a service economy wasn't a great iea. now all that is serviced are govt workers.

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:27 PM (nqBYe)

105 Dems want Clinton taxes back on everyone, they need that money. They just want to blame it on the GOP/tea party.

Boehner offered them increased revenue via decreased deductions instead and they ran away screaming because they need to be able to offer exemptions to all their donors and special interest groups.

What a shame we don't have a reasonable percentage of conservatives in the MFM to point out stuff like this.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 26, 2012 06:27 PM (dkExz)

106 Maria actually bitch-slapped Cardin. Totally handed his sagging buttocks to him.

We need more of this, please.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2012 06:27 PM (XkWWK)

107 OT, excellent, excellent essay:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=21522

Posted by: JDR what was once Taq at December 26, 2012 06:28 PM (e7KZr)

108 98 Ben Cardin makes me embarrassed to have spent my wonder years in Maryland. Then again Sherrod "Restraining Order" Brown makes me feel bad about currently living in Ohio.
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 26, 2012 06:25 PM (DCtpy)

I'm in New York, City AND State. We're loaded to the gills with goniffing commie bastards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2012 06:28 PM (XkWWK)

109 "102 Truly, I have never, ever, had that experience. The
SA bellringers stand there and ring a bell. They don't approach anyone,
and that's one of the things I like most about them.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:22 PM (6TB1Z)

______________
Fair enough. I mean hassling me in the theoretical sense. And they do kind of hassle you emotionally. It's cold, the ringer's there all bundled up looking pathetic. The message implied is 'don't be an asshole, throw a buck into the pot'.
Whatever, I'm done giving period to everyone. I take care of me and my own. Everyone else can go fuck themselves. Isn't taht the whole idea of LIB? Or have we already gone soft?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:26 PM (HDgX3) "

LIB is, first and foremost, a fact.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:28 PM (T0lrq)

110 Special Report just teased a piece about Monkey Face and the magazine.

On The Grapevine, so prolly pretty shallow.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 26, 2012 06:28 PM (aZ6ew)

111 never buy a cheapy Ezeyes keyboard

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:28 PM (nqBYe)

112
Last I saw we go $4B in the hole every day, so I guess we spend about $6B...

so 200/6 is less than 40 days and 40 nights, although there is sequestration.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 26, 2012 06:29 PM (69Mdf)

113 Maria is quite a looker.

guts and gorgeous.

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:29 PM (nqBYe)

114 Maria actually bitch-slapped Cardin. Totally handed his sagging buttocks to him.

We need more of this, please.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2012 06:27 PM (XkWWK)

I heard it on Tammy Bruce this afternoon. It was possibly the best thing I've heard all year; and yes, that includes the Romney campaign.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 26, 2012 06:29 PM (DCtpy)

115 "104 Backwards boy, I gues turning america into a service economy wasn't a great iea. now all that is serviced are govt workers.

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:27 PM (nqBYe) "

Everyone's getting serviced.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:29 PM (T0lrq)

116 Why don't get on the dole? Seriously. These people almost make me madder
than the FSA. The govt has all this money they're willing to give you
and yet you don't take it. Stop begging me for money and go get what
you're owed by the govt. I'm dead serious about this.

Just so we're clear, you're angry at the Free Shit Army for being on the dole, and also angry at those not demanding free shit for not being on the dole.

I recommend lithium for your condition. It's not just for batteries you know.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 26, 2012 06:29 PM (SY2Kh)

117 I'm in New York, City AND State. We're loaded to the gills with goniffing commie bastards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2012 06:28 PM (XkWWK)
Gonif. What an outstanding Yiddish word that, sadly, has gone out of favor.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:30 PM (HqXYa)

118 I watched CNBC for years til about '06.

Maria is nothing more than an overblown restaurant hostess.

......pretty late to the party

Posted by: ontherocks at December 26, 2012 06:30 PM (aZ6ew)

119 I recommend lithium for your condition. It's not just for batteries you know.

Ironically, it makes batteries explode and helps people avoid being explosive.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2012 06:31 PM (6TB1Z)

120 98
Ben Cardin makes me embarrassed to have spent my wonder years in
Maryland. Then again Sherrod "Restraining Order" Brown makes me feel bad
about currently living in Ohio.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 26, 2012 06:25 PM (DCtpy)
__________________________
Dude, I live in WA. One of my senators are Patti Murray, hands down the most idiotic member of congress. And I am including Hank "Guam Will Tip Over" Johnson in that group of people, smarter than her. How she managed to get elected 3 times to the senate is one of life's great mysteries. I mean yea it's WA but come on, no other Democrat with an IQ above 70 was available to run?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:32 PM (HDgX3)

121 "116 Why don't get on the dole? Seriously. These people almost make me madder
than the FSA. The govt has all this money they're willing to give you
and yet you don't take it. Stop begging me for money and go get what
you're owed by the govt. I'm dead serious about this.

Just so we're clear, you're angry at the Free Shit Army for being on the dole, and also angry at those not demanding free shit for not being on the dole.

I recommend lithium for your condition. It's not just for batteries you know.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 26, 2012 06:29 PM (SY2Kh) "

Mr. Moo Moo has a high IQ, and a tendency to get carried away.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:34 PM (T0lrq)

122 The nerve of her!!!!/////

Posted by: phoenixgirl Merry 2nd day of Christmas at December 26, 2012 06:34 PM (oYi6/)

123 The cookie was better than the fortune.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 26, 2012 06:34 PM (BgIBZ)

124 Just so we're clear, you're angry at the Free Shit
Army for being on the dole, and also angry at those not demanding free
shit for not being on the dole.

I recommend lithium for your condition. It's not just for batteries you know.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 26, 2012 06:29 PM (SY2Kh)

_________________________
The FSA is on the dole because they want to be and don't ever intend on getting off the dole. These people SHOULD be on the dole but they refuse it. These are the people who are truly in need and what welfare was designed for. Temporary help during bad times. Yet the people who need temporary help during bad times are the ones who instead go to churches food banks.

Get it now? Or do you want to throw out another snarky comment about lithium first?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:35 PM (HDgX3)

125 All I asked for Christmas was a year long Federal government shutdown. Please Please let it come true. Let it BURN BABY let it burn.

Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at December 26, 2012 06:35 PM (T/L2Z)

126 67 Although phone requests get my stock answers, I do put money in the Salvation Army kettle. In fact, I do it every time I pass one, in memory of my father, who always told me to donate to them due to his experiences with them and the odious Red Cross during WWII.

So I put money in and say a prayer for my dad.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:12 PM (GoIUi)

I forgot that because my father has been gone since 1988, he did say the Salvation Army were good to them in WWII. Now I'm going to have to seek one out, hopefully tomorrow.
Thanks, Carol

Posted by: CarolT at December 26, 2012 06:36 PM (z4WKX)

127 67 Although phone requests get my stock answers, I do put money in the Salvation Army kettle. In fact, I do it every time I pass one, in memory of my father, who always told me to donate to them due to his experiences with them and the odious Red Cross during WWII.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:12 PM (GoIUi)
---

Not to mention that cash in the bucket does not release a torrent of phone calls and mailers from other charities begging for donations for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 26, 2012 06:36 PM (BgIBZ)

128 Iimagine Mr.Moomoos point is since we are LIBing, those that were past tax payers and worker bee's should go ahead and get what they can before the possible collapse

but i'm only guessing

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:36 PM (nqBYe)

129
Democrats don't have to compromise when they have the Corrupt Media telling everyone all day every daythat Republicans won't compromise.

Posted by: John Adams Quincy at December 26, 2012 06:36 PM (x9s9/)

130 compromise c 1995: if the Repubs forget about tax cuts, the Dems will forget about spending cuts.

Better to let the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in Jan 1. If the Dems want tax cuts for everyone who's not rich, let them agree to more spending cuts. Only way we'll get the spending cuts.

Posted by: mallfly at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (bJm7W)

131 117 Gonif. What an outstanding Yiddish word that, sadly, has gone out of favor.
Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:30 PM (HqXYa)

Not with me! And tune in to the Morning Headlines thread for my Yiddish word of the day as well as my daily 4 year countdown clock.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (XkWWK)

132 A DC newscast just had a story from a local mall about retail shopping after Christmas. If the pics of the mall are what counts as "busy" I don't want to know what "really busy" is.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (iFl7N)

133 Backwards boy, I gues turning america into a service economy wasn't a great iea. now all that is serviced are govt workers.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why politicians don't support what has worked in the past to benefit the majority of Americans. Is their lust for power that overwhelming that it blinds them to reality? And Maths?

This is so simple: just let us be free, with an economy that's also free. The more wealth that is created, the better off everyone is, including the government. I suppose that's too much to ask these days...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (yiIja)

134 "124 Just so we're clear, you're angry at the Free Shit
Army for being on the dole, and also angry at those not demanding free
shit for not being on the dole.

I recommend lithium for your condition. It's not just for batteries you know.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 26, 2012 06:29 PM (SY2Kh)

_________________________
The FSA is on the dole because they want to be and don't ever intend on getting off the dole. These people SHOULD be on the dole but they refuse it. These are the people who are truly in need and what welfare was designed for. Temporary help during bad times. Yet the people who need temporary help during bad times are the ones who instead go to churches food banks.

Get it now? Or do you want to throw out another snarky comment about lithium first?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:35 PM (HDgX3) "

Welfare was designed to maximize the power, pervasiveness, and influence of the bureaucracy. Get it, now?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (T0lrq)

135 Republicans don't care about the "debt" or "deficit." George W spent eight years of his term spending the country into incomparable debt. Ace never said a fukn peep.

You lost the election. Do the manly thing and slit your wrists, Ace. Join me!

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (3lEfX)

136 So happy.... Just scored a San Francisco seals t shirt at Nordstrom rack!!!! $14

Posted by: phoenixgirl Merry 2nd day of Christmas at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (oYi6/)

137 Not to mention that cash in the bucket does not
release a torrent of phone calls and mailers from other charities
begging for donations for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 26, 2012 06:36 PM (BgIBZ)
The beauty of caller ID. I dont recognize, I dont answer. Also why I have a solid front door and a peephole. I dont recognize, I dont open. Now about that junk mail...

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:38 PM (HqXYa)

138 OT: I have not seen the Salvation Army anywhere with a kettle in weeks. First time in my life I have not seen them.

Posted by: Baldy at December 26, 2012 06:38 PM (opS9C)

139 Not to mention that cash in the bucket does not release a torrent of phone calls and mailers from other charities begging for donations for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 26, 2012 06:36 PM (BgIBZ)

There are several organizations that send me a lot of mail and I'm sorely tempted to call them and say, "I know where to find you. Send me one more piece of mail and I'll never donate to you again."

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 26, 2012 06:38 PM (iFl7N)

140 125 All I asked for Christmas was a year long Federal government shutdown. Please Please let it come true. Let it BURN BABY let it burn.
Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at December 26, 2012 06:35 PM (T/L2Z)

The Federal Gubmint shuts down every weekend. Aside from the most essential services (military) as well as things like Social Security, everything else is at best useless and at worst harmful to the average American.

LIB and SID.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 26, 2012 06:38 PM (XkWWK)

141 O/T, is anyone else sick of Tim Fucking Tebow?

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (HqXYa)

142 Mr. MooMoo, #120:

"Guam Will Tip Over."

Sir, we, ah, don't anticipate that.

Posted by: ADM Robert Willard at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (G2MpN)

143 The more wealth that is created, the better off everyone is, including the government. I suppose that's too much to ask these days...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (yiIja)

I believe the govt leadership decided there was More money and power, control to be given Them If they took away the tools for prosperity and doled those out for their eam members , those team members are not necessaril y pro america or for that matter american.

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (nqBYe)

144 105 Dems want Clinton taxes back on everyone, they need that money. They just want to blame it on the GOP/tea party.

Without the leftover Reagan economy. the Internet/tech boom and end of cold war dividend/BRAC, those Clinton tax rates will only depress it fur-

Oh, fucking never mind.......

Go for it Dims. 100% tax on everything over $1 Mil.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (mD2oW)

145 As far as charities go, I'll continue to give to Soldier's Angels and any other legit charity that helps our troops and vets. Servicemen and women and veterans - there's a minority group the libs don't give a damn about.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (BStAJ)

146 128
Iimagine Mr.Moomoos point is since we are LIBing, those that were past
tax payers and worker bee's should go ahead and get what they can before
the possible collapse

but i'm only guessing

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:36 PM (nqBYe)

__________________________
Yep, pretty much. Those who contribute nothing all their lives suck at the govt teat. Those that do contribute are too proud to ask for govt help. I don't mind if someone works for 20 years then needs some welfare. Get it. Get as much as you can. That's a completely different situation than someone who is born into welfare and stays there for life while churning out 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 kids who will be on welfare for life as well. To me that's the FSA...not the guy who needs $400 a month in food stamps to feed his kids since he can't find any work doing construction.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (HDgX3)

147 Cleanup on #135 (Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (3lEfX))

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (iFl7N)

148 ergie lashing out because Santa put coal in his stocking again.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 26, 2012 06:40 PM (DCtpy)

149 I'm dead serious about this.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:24 PM (HDgX3)

________

Congratulations.

Posted by: Bill Harvard Clinton at December 26, 2012 06:41 PM (DrC22)

150 141 O/T, is anyone else sick of Tim Fucking Tebow?
Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (HqXYa)

No.

Are we supposed to be?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 26, 2012 06:41 PM (mD2oW)

151 This is so simple: just let us be free, with an economy that's also free. The more wealth that is created, the better off everyone is, including the government. I suppose that's too much to ask these days...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (yiIja)

Of course it's too much to ask......no "social justice"

Posted by: BignJames at December 26, 2012 06:41 PM (j7iSn)

152 135
Republicans don't care about the "debt" or "deficit." George W spent
eight years of his term spending the country into incomparable debt. Ace
never said a fukn peep.

You lost the election. Do the manly thing and slit your wrists, Ace. Join me!

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (3lEfX)

_____________
Deficit in 2007: $150 billion
Deficit in 2012: $1200 billion
You were saying.....

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:41 PM (HDgX3)

153 O/T, is anyone else sick of Tim Fucking Tebow? Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (HqXYa)

I'm not.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 06:42 PM (BStAJ)

154 135
Republicans don't care about the "debt" or "deficit." George W spent
eight years of his term spending the country into incomparable debt. Ace
never said a fukn peep.

You lost the election. Do the manly thing and slit your wrists, Ace. Join me!

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (3lEfX)

_____________________________________________
Total debt accumulated under:
Bush: about 4 trillion in 8 years
Obama: About 5 trillion in 4 years
You were saying.......

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:42 PM (HDgX3)

155 Mr. Moo Moo, they are on unemployment, but with several children and food prices going sky high, they cannot make it to the end of the month.

I have a lot of senior citizens come in who have the same problem.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:43 PM (GoIUi)

156 "135 Republicans don't care about the "debt" or "deficit." George W spent eight years of his term spending the country into incomparable debt. Ace never said a fukn peep.

You lost the election. Do the manly thing and slit your wrists, Ace. Join me!

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (3lEfX) "

I never critiqued Bush's Leftist tendencies. Why? Because I had this funny "feeling" that were the Republicans to lose, all h*ll would break loose. I just didn't really understand how right I was.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:43 PM (T0lrq)

157 Are we supposed to be?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 26, 2012 06:41 PM (mD2oW)
Yes. (I realize this is probably more a Northeast-centric thing), but the guy is like dogshit on a city street before they passed those laws. He's on a million commercials. He is to football what Sarah Palin was to national politics. All hat, no cattle.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:44 PM (HqXYa)

158
Republicans don't care about the "debt" or "deficit." George W spent
eight years of his term spending the country into incomparable debt. Ace
never said a fukn peep.
And the dims were so concerned they larded up every military spending bill, but that must have been a ok with you.

Posted by: Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 at December 26, 2012 06:44 PM (BHM5V)

159 141 O/T, is anyone else sick of Tim Fucking Tebow?
Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (HqXYa)

I wasn't even aware that Tim was doing that.

Posted by: Cricket at December 26, 2012 06:45 PM (DrC22)

160 155
Mr. Moo Moo, they are on unemployment, but with several children and
food prices going sky high, they cannot make it to the end of the month.

I have a lot of senior citizens come in who have the same problem.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:43 PM (GoIUi)

________________
If these people are on UI, they automatically qualify for food stamps in most states. And a bunch of other govt welfare programs as well. You should be advising them of that.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:45 PM (HDgX3)

161 I don't mind if someone works for 20 years then needs some welfare. Get it.

This, They worked, They invested in america , they didn't want to live on a handout for life. a handup is ok for anyone, just mnot a lifestyle!

through nothing they have done here we go off the cliff! yes i hop-e they survive we will need them later to help pick america up.

I don't mind if someone works for 20 years then needs some welfare. Get it. Get as much as you can. That's a completely different situation than someone who is born into welfare and stays there for life while churning out 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 kids who will be on welfare for life as well. To me that's the FSA...not the guy who needs $400 a month in food stamps to feed his kids since he can't find any work doing construction.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (HDgX3)To me that's the FSA...not the guy who needs $400 a month in food stamps to feed his kids since he can't find any work doing construction.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:39 PM (HDgX3)

agree

Posted by: ette at December 26, 2012 06:45 PM (nqBYe)

162 144: Oh yeah, taking money out of the economy ..... Still, if you are in the middle tax brackets chances are fairly high you are in a 40 hour week job and you can't cut back on your earning potential w/o switching to FSA side. If you are in the 250K+ its much better odds that you are a business owner or work for yourself at least and will go "eff this, I'm no longer going to work 40-70 hours a week to build up my business, or risk my own money to build up my business ........"

Posted by: PaleRider at December 26, 2012 06:46 PM (dkExz)

163 Oh Great Banhammer, we beseech you. Please descend upon the asshole in Comment # 135 with alacrity and heaviness.

Sincerely,

A Fap of Morons

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 26, 2012 06:47 PM (yiIja)

164 I must admit I admire the Senator's Honesty.

Posted by: Picric at December 26, 2012 06:47 PM (ohDHB)

165 I like that Tivo ad with Tebow where the kid says in quotes all the football terms and then Tebow says "I do know English besides football phrases". Good for him. Milk it for what it's worth. He'll be an answer to a trivia question in a few years, make as much money as you can now Tim.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:47 PM (HDgX3)

166 You get nothing. I get that for free.

Now, here's my counter offer; I give you just the tip, and you promise not to holler when I go balls deep.

Posted by: The Negotiator-in-Chief at December 26, 2012 06:47 PM (w3+gB)

167 Appropos of the post and idiot senators:

http://tinyurl.com/govt-suckage

The type of stupid shit govts do. They don't actually care about people.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 26, 2012 06:48 PM (69Mdf)

168 How can you anyone be sick of Tebow? Hasn't hardlytaken any snaps this season. Has he?

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at December 26, 2012 06:48 PM (WX65W)

169 "160 155
Mr. Moo Moo, they are on unemployment, but with several children and
food prices going sky high, they cannot make it to the end of the month.

I have a lot of senior citizens come in who have the same problem.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:43 PM (GoIUi)

________________
If these people are on UI, they automatically qualify for food stamps in most states. And a bunch of other govt welfare programs as well. You should be advising them of that.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:45 PM (HDgX3) "

Maximizing people's dependence on government and Leftist programs might not be a good idea...

(Charity is better.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:49 PM (T0lrq)

170 Oooh. George HW Bush has been moved to the ICU. What a patriot and gentleman. Heal well, Mr. President.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:51 PM (HqXYa)

171 I'm sick of Tebow getting Alinsky-ed.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 26, 2012 06:51 PM (aZ6ew)

172 It isn't Tebow's fault he's been sitting on the sidelines all season. I have no idea why the Jets even bothered to sign him.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 06:52 PM (BStAJ)

173 "You lost the election. Do the manly thing and slit your wrists, Ace. Join me!

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at December 26, 2012 06:37 PM (3lEfX) ""

The most noble thing isn't to die for your political party, it's to make the other bastard die for his.

Posted by: Paraphrase of Zombie George Patton at December 26, 2012 06:52 PM (eP0u9)

174 Mr. Moo Moo, unemployment in Indiana isn't much, and the food stamps don't make it when eggs are $2.00 a dozen and cereal is $5.00 a box.

As a matter of fact, when my husband was n unemployment several years ago, no one told us we were elegible for food stamps. We do hand out brochures for food stamps, WIC, and other programs.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 26, 2012 06:53 PM (GoIUi)

175 Maybe Tebow should murder some people. Then he'd be cool. Like all the other athletes.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 06:53 PM (T0lrq)

176 162
144: Oh yeah, taking money out of the economy ..... Still, if you are in
the middle tax brackets chances are fairly high you are in a 40 hour
week job and you can't cut back on your earning potential w/o switching
to FSA side. If you are in the 250K+ its much better odds that you are a
business owner or work for yourself at least and will go "eff this, I'm
no longer going to work 40-70 hours a week to build up my business, or
risk my own money to build up my business ........"

Posted by: PaleRider at December 26, 2012 06:46 PM (dkExz)

___________________________
Here's how the middle class can do it as well...
Husband wife, each make $40K. Combined at $80K they're too rich to qualify for anything and they pay 20% in taxes leaving $64K take home pay.
Say one of the two quits. They're down to $40K. But now they pay no tax (welcome to the 47% club). And now it's a family of 4 earning $40K which means instant access to food stamps, WIC, free high speed internet, Obamaphones, you name it. Plus one parent doesn't have to pay for gas, for lunch at work and most importantly for child care if the kids aren't in school. Add all that together and they're close to $64K in actual income.
So yes the middle class can easily game the system and say eff this I'm not working 40-70 hours a week anymore just as easily as the evil rich billionaires making 250K.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 06:53 PM (HDgX3)

177 Yes. (I realize this is probably more a
Northeast-centric thing), but the guy is like dogshit on a city street
before they passed those laws. He's on a million commercials. He is to
football what Sarah Palin was to national politics. All hat, no cattle.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:44 PM (HqXYa)

If you're a Jets fan, don't you have a much larger complaint about that tub of shit Sanchez who has been terrible this whole fucking season than somebody whom the Jets, against all reason, traded for and now is the subject of those fuckheaded rumor mongers at ESPN and the head coach who may or may not have leaked a private discussion with him? The problems with the Jets are a lot more than a backup quarterback and some foot fetish head coach.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 26, 2012 06:54 PM (DCtpy)

178 alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 26, 2012

I am willing to partake in your dangerous escapades, but only if I can have the title "Henchman".

Posted by: Bob at December 26, 2012 06:54 PM (1efte)

179 "The Treasury will take a series of measures, such as DELAYING SCHEDULE PAYMENTS to pension funds, to make $200 billion in breathing room."

I'm sorry, isn't that called "DEFAULT"?

Posted by: MtTB at December 26, 2012 06:55 PM (xehjI)

180 It isn't Tebow's fault he's been sitting on the sidelines all season. I have no idea why the Jets even bothered to sign him.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 06:52 PM (BStAJ)
The Jets are the epitome of a dis-functional organization, starting with the head coach. As a Philadelphian, why anyone would hire the spawn of Buddy Ryan is beyond me. At least he doesn't have ridiculous hair like his brother.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 06:55 PM (HqXYa)

181 It's almost time to drop the hammer. There are worse things than Depression. I've been looking at him on Drudge, swinging a golf club, the past few days.

Posted by: David at December 26, 2012 06:56 PM (J9mCu)

182 OT-But I can't stand these co-called conservatives. Bill Kristol is on Fox News, he is not a conservative at all, if he ever was. I really used to enjoy The Weekly Standard, but the funniest contributor, Dean Barnett died in September 2008.
I kept up my subscription for the archives but I'm going to search them and save everything and let in expire. It's a waste of money because I never read it now.

Posted by: CarolT at December 26, 2012 06:58 PM (z4WKX)

183 Donna It also isn't Tebow's fault that when McDoofus was the Bronco's head coach and GM (sobs at Bowlens foolishness) that McDoofus was tricked into drafting Tebow right away to keep him from the Patriots who probably didn't even want him. But Tebow saved the Bronco's last year when being a fan had lost almost all enjoyment. Probably also gave the NFL in general a big boost. If he never throws another pass he has had a huge positive impact on the game. the ESPN twerps who harp on all things Tebow should DIAF.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 26, 2012 06:58 PM (dkExz)

184 >>but the guy is like dogshit on a city street

before they passed those laws.

Like I said Alinsky-ed

Posted by: ontherocks at December 26, 2012 06:59 PM (aZ6ew)

185 Cardin must have thought he was going to get the usual head nodding interview where he used the stock "Americans want action and compromise but the Republicans won't budge" party line.

He wouldn't touch anything that would affect the truly rich with higher taxes, just the people who do well but not well enough to have a senator in their back pockets

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 07:01 PM (wwsoB)

186 It's almost time to drop the hammer. There are worse things than
Depression. I've been looking at him on Drudge, swinging a golf club,
the past few days.

Whoa! Expect a visit from the Secret Service, brother. Not good.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 07:01 PM (HqXYa)

187 Heh. The funny shot at the end of Fox Special Report. Bawba Waawa taking a hit off a bong while choomboy answers question about legalization.

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at December 26, 2012 07:02 PM (WX65W)

188 I am willing to partake in your dangerous escapades, but only if I can have the title "Henchman".

Posted by: Bob at December 26, 2012 06:54 PM (1efte)

Pish posh they are not dangerous escapades, they are otherly OSHA approved outings.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 07:02 PM (Gk3SS)

189 CarolT: I subscribed to the Weekly Standard back in the '90's, but I haven't read it in years. Does PJ O'Rourke still write for it? He and Andrew Ferguson were, IMO, the best writers they had.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 07:03 PM (BStAJ)

190 CarolT: I subscribed to the Weekly Standard back in
the '90's, but I haven't read it in years. Does PJ O'Rourke still write
for it? He and Andrew Ferguson were, IMO, the best writers they had.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 07:03 PM (BStAJ)
No. I dropped my subscription. It does contain some great writing , but it's expensive as hades.

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 07:05 PM (HqXYa)

191 Why is Mike Florio so interested in a third-string quarterback?

http://tinyurl.com/cqpnaq9

(I think we know why...)

Posted by: Cricket at December 26, 2012 07:05 PM (DrC22)

192 And the top news is a fucking whale. Let it fatten the hoboes.

Posted by: JimboHoffa LIB! at December 26, 2012 07:05 PM (qEZxt)

193 He wouldn't touch anything that would affect the
truly rich with higher taxes, just the people who do well but not well
enough to have a senator in their back pockets

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2012 07:01 PM (wwsoB)

________________________
Yep. Tax the rich in Democrat terms is really that the upper middle class. 250K is not rich. It's barely comfortable anymore anywhere near a coast.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2012 07:06 PM (HDgX3)

194 The best part of the Bartiromo interview was the applause afterwards. It shows that even in the MFM newsrooms they know crap when they hear it. The worm may be turning.

Posted by: Decaf at December 26, 2012 07:07 PM (TJQ3a)

195 Later, all.

God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 26, 2012 07:07 PM (T0lrq)

196 What is Ergie's story?

Posted by: MidwesternSceptic at December 26, 2012 07:08 PM (cxl8k)

197 Beatings? Are there beatings?! >
Posted by: ombudsman

We can help out with spankings.

Posted by: Zut at December 26, 2012 07:08 PM (wGzdQ)

198 If you want to know what evil on the internet looks like look no further than the slime under Andrew Breitbart's sock at #135.

Posted by: Decaf at December 26, 2012 07:09 PM (TJQ3a)

199 Second-string Atlantic blogger freaks out that Fox refers to registered left-wing Democrat Westboro cult as "Left-Wing Cult."

http://tinyurl.com/bv2tw5l

Posted by: BuddyPC at December 26, 2012 07:09 PM (jfUIE)

200 179: In the real world, it would be called 'default', but this is the government, which doesn't live in the real world. All such coupon and other payments to the various pension funds (which include trust funds for SS and Medicare, of course) are made in more IOUs (special issue non-marketable Treasuries). They just suspend making the IOU payments, and give the trust fund an IOU^2, which is an IOU for and IOU, which doesn't count toward the debt limit.
They can do that only with a limited amount, and there are other accounting tricks they can do, which just amounts to moving debt from a column that counts towards the debt limit to another column that doesn't. That's all it is.
Benefit payments to the recipients, however, reqiure real money. The only source of real money for Uncle is taxes and borrowing, the real money borrowing from the real bond market (although Helicopter and the boys at the Fed have rigged that somewhat) using real marketable Treasury bonds. It doesn't matter how much money they say the trust funds, pension funds, etc, etc, have. They are nothing but IOUs. The ability to make real benefit payments requires real money, hence the need to borow.
The federal government's ability to pay its bills depends solely on the taxes it can collect, plus the willingness of the bond market to keep loaning it money, to the tune of 40 cents on the dollar, give or take. All claims otherwise are nothing but BS.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at December 26, 2012 07:09 PM (VVB18)

201 O/T, watching Fox News, and sitting in for the Sheep Dog is Harris Faulkner. She's like the photo negative of the typical Fox News babe, but she really is a beautiful woman. Just sayin'

Posted by: ombudsman at December 26, 2012 07:10 PM (HqXYa)

202 Maria is nothing more than an overblown restaurant hostess.

......pretty late to the party

Posted by: ontherocks at December 26, 2012 06:30 PM

There's no way that Maria could overblow me

Posted by: Mel Gibson at December 26, 2012 07:11 PM (wwsoB)

203 I enjoyed watching Cardin's face during that interview. Imagine the shock and surprise a Democrat pol must feel when a reporter actually raises the BS flag on them. "You're questioning ME? How dare you! I can't believe you're treating me like I'm a Republican!"

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 07:11 PM (BStAJ)

204 It is a trap.

It was always going to be trap. It was set up to be a trap last time they kicked the the can down to this place. Either you cave and get caught in the trap or you give up see it is a trap and call it a trap and point it was a self created trap and let it snap. And then show that if you did not create this trap the cliff would have hit 2 years ago.

Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at December 26, 2012 07:14 PM (Ea64Y)

205 Donna V, yes there was Cardin, armed with the usual talking points expecting the interviewer to nod and help him along and then out of nowhere he gets a real question. Unsupportable!

Posted by: Decaf at December 26, 2012 07:16 PM (TJQ3a)

206
Plus Faulkner seems very professional in her delivery of news. No bias in the tone on the news!

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at December 26, 2012 07:18 PM (WX65W)

207 alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 26, 2012 07:02 PM (Gk3SS)

OK. In that case, "Henchperson" or "Person of Hench".

Posted by: Bob at December 26, 2012 07:34 PM (1efte)

208 It simply is not true that the bell ringers for the Salvation Army "hassle" people. These people volunteer and do so out of the goodness of their heart. Please read this wonderful story for more info. �Why Do You Do That?�: A Bell Ringer�s Tale. http://cbsloc.al/12C8r5K

Posted by: sirsurfalot at December 26, 2012 07:43 PM (SCqvi)

209 OT-Again, but since we are talking about giving money to charities, some poor fool from the NRCC called me five minutes ago. He wanted me to donate $60 to help the conservatives in Congress get off to a strong 2013. I told him NO, I can't afford it and I'm not happy with the conservatives in congress because they are NOT conservatives. Most are a bunch of RINO's and establishment and they haven't done anything since being in office.
I further lit into him by saying that they agreed to this fiscal cliff deal in the summer of 2011 and just now are trying to do something about it! I told him no republican should sign anything that raised taxes on anyone. Let the dems own it. The man would not give up, he wanted to send me an envelope with a a $25 pledge. I told him NO again and he persisted with a $15 donation.

I told him NO and added I don't know what my financial info is going to be because my taxes will probably all go up. I had to go on and on before he finally gave up!

Posted by: CarolT at December 26, 2012 07:47 PM (z4WKX)

210
"As to the SA, they represent the best of the
Christian charitable tradition."

Ja, zee Sturm Abteilungen are gut Christians, all.

Posted by: Zombie Ernst Roehm at December 26, 2012 07:52 PM (FsqHK)

211 There is one very simple way to cut Obama's knees out from under him and to come out ahead when we go over the cliff.

Let Obama give his state of the Union Address and then when the Republican's get there 5 min. simply have Boehner call Obama a liar and that since he can't be trusted that all future negotiations will/must take place on live tv or not at all, then just walk away and let everything crash and burn.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at December 26, 2012 07:52 PM (RmKKm)

212 I'll still give to the Salvation Army: as a church charity you can 1) bet that Uncle Sugar is stiffing them, and 2) only the genuinely poor and needy go to them because, well, those eeeeeeevil Christianists will try to convert me and pay back my debt by helping actual poor people! They're a genuine lot.

United Way, on the other hand, can ask their Lord and Savoir (spoiler: it isn't Jesus) for money. I gave all mine to the SA and my local parish food kitchen.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at December 26, 2012 07:52 PM (mMtFx)

213 I give to Wounded Warriors every month. There is only so much i can afford to give.

Posted by: CarolT at December 26, 2012 07:58 PM (z4WKX)

214 This whole raise taxes thing is a farce, as is cutting defense. Here is an article containing an interactive graphic that lets you set the tax rate on "the rich" and see how it impacts 2011 government expenses: http://www.libertydude.com/?p=208

I posted this the other night on the ONT, but it fits well in the context of Baritromo's challenge.

Posted by: The Liberty Dude at December 26, 2012 07:58 PM (iAWQF)

215 Oh, and Operation: Kindness. That's a good one. And no, I don't send toilet paper. Sadly, they don't let me send microbrews.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at December 26, 2012 07:59 PM (mMtFx)

216 Donna V-Andrew Ferguson is now a Senior Editor at TWS. I haven't seen anything by P J O'Rourke in years. It is too expensive.
Carol

Posted by: CarolT at December 26, 2012 08:03 PM (z4WKX)

217 I submit a " multitude of morons"

Posted by: seamrog at December 26, 2012 09:27 PM (pWOHy)

218 A leftist asked me many years ago, "what would you be willing to let go for compromise on this?"

I said "just as much as you."

That's where the conversation ended, because, just like always, their answer is nothing. They take and never give, because that's a core tenet of their belief.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 10:07 PM (I4bs+)

219 Maria is just the prettiest talking head on tv to ask the Dems. Cavuto has been doing it for some time on his show for some time. Exhibit A from Dec 13. http://tinyurl.com/c3e3ncw

Posted by: Tequila at December 27, 2012 08:06 AM (+KDIM)

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